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We'll learn that there is
really many, many ways in which
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atomic science can be used
for the benefit of mankind.
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These are the weapons
at the edge of acceptability.
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When you're actually
in a fight for survival,
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rules generally tend
to go out the window.
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The fear of the weapon may
actually be more impactful
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than the weapon itself.
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In warfare's deadly arsenal,
chemical, biological,
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and other poisonous agents are
the most controversial.
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Though each plays a lethal
role, they can be loosely
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categorized by what
they're composed of
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and how they're deployed.
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For as long as there have been
weapons, people have tried
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to govern
their use and distribution.
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Their implications of use
must be so devastating,
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their reach so far ranging,
their implications of usage
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so widespread that a group
of the good and the great
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determined that
they must be outlawed.
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If you look at the evolution
of conflict and warfare,
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there's always been
this struggle and this question
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of what's right,
what's not right,
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what's just,
what's not just,
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what's fair,
what's not fair.
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in war and conflict.
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That kind of sounds good
on paper, but when you're
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actually in a fight
for survival, rules generally
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tend to go out the window.
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Chemical warfare
and biological warfare
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are overlapping concepts.
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Poisons are a pretty broad
category because almost
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everything in nature
is a poison.
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Think of this as three circles
that do actually all come
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together in the middle.
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Poisoning as a method of attack
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tends to be focused
and targeted,
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as opposed to chemical warfare,
which is,
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by definition, indiscriminate,
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and actually kind of goes
which way the wind flows.
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Biological weapons is basically
the weaponization of natural
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agents to cause infection,
like with viruses or bacteria.
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Disease spreading agents
take advantage of the fact
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that diseases can go from one
individual to the other
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and spread more widely,
and therefore attack
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or infect a number of people.
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The classical biological
weapons are basically
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pathogens, things that cause
disease in humans.
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So we're talking about things
like bacteria, viruses.
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Chemical weapons, in a way,
are as old as science itself.
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They date back
at least 3,000 years.
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The Persians used to burn
crystals of sulfur to poison
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Roman legions,
but more elaborate chemical
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weapons were mainly developed
during the Industrial Age.
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The OPCW lists
five different types
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of chemical weapon systems.
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Blood agents,
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blister agents,
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choking agents,
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nettle agents,
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and finally, nerve agents.
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Blood agents, those that are
absorbed by blood,
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depriving vital organs
of getting oxygen.
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Blister agents or chemical
compounds that cause severe
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irritation in the skin or eyes,
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resulting in blisters,
swelling, inflammation,
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and leading to the destruction
of tissues.
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Choking agents, so chemicals
that cause severe irritation
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or swelling of the respiratory
tract, attacking the lung
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tissue, causing pulmonary
edema, and basically just
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impeding an individual's
ability to breathe.
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Fourth, nettle agents,
all chemicals that corrode
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the skin and other tissues
upon touch.
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They cause intense itching
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rashes and things like that,
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And fifth and finally,
nerve agents,
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organic gases
that affect the nervous system,
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preventing it
from functioning properly,
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Effective and time-tested,
poisons entered the modern age
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with the introduction of mass
produced chemical weapons
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during the War to End All Wars.
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Within months of the outbreak
of the First World War,
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the two belligerent parties
were stuck in a stalemate,
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in long trench lines facing
each other in a seemingly
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cold and unbreakable impasse.
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It was this stalemate
that scientists
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came up with a solution to,
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the use of chemical agents
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dispersed by wind or artillery
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to render the adversary
incapacitated or dead.
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Tear gas was first seen
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at the Battle of Ypres in 1915.
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This was a particularly
bloody battle.
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But nobody really sat there
and thought through what are
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the immediate second,
third order effects
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of this battlefield, not only
on the troops and the soldiers,
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but on the psyche, on society,
and on innocent bystanders.
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It's this lack of ability
to control the secondary impact
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of these weapon systems
that has led to the really
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consensus efforts to ban them
on the battlefield.
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For example,
today, particularly in France,
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farmers occasionally find
varied mustard gas canisters.
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When these canisters are dug
up, the gas inside them
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is still potent.
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It goes to show
that these weapons
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remain dangerous
decades after their use.
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Chemical weapons were
relatively easy
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to develop and deploy.
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Anyone with a dead pig
and a science lab could start
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to develop chemical
and biological agents
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that would have
a devastating impact,
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or so the science promised.
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Story of the Big Four
Geneva Conference.
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Seen here arriving
to play their part
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in the Geneva Conference.
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We'll learn that there is
really many, many ways in which
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atomic science can be used
for the benefit of mankind
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instead of destruction.
Thank you very much.
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The Geneva Protocol was
the first initiative to govern
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the use of chemical
and biological weapons
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in armed conflicts,
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signed on the 17th
of June, 1925.
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The Geneva Protocol is not
a very effective document.
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It's-- it's pretty thin.
It's a couple of pages.
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It's got very loose definitions.
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It talks about asphyxiating
gases, and there's a lot
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of ways that poisons work
besides asphyxiating.
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So it's a technical document
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drawn up
by nontechnical people,
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so it's not very effective.
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Chemical weapons didn't really
live up to expectations
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in the First World War.
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They really didn't lead to any
major victories on either side.
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Somewhere upwards
of 90,000 soldiers
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died from chemical
warfare exposure
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in the First World War,
and it's really difficult
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to point
to any particular battle
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where chemical weapons
were truly decisive.
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The other issue about chemical
and biological weapons
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is they're quite difficult
to control.
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Once released, if the wind
changes, the cloud of nerve
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and biological agents could
blow back over your own troops.
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It requires your own troops
working in that environment
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to wear very restrictive
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and difficult-to-operate-in
mop suits.
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These chemical
and decontamination suits
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require a huge amount of effort
and reduce the fighting
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effectiveness of your
own soldiers.
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There are other ways to achieve
your military objectives.
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And one of the problems with
these type of weapons was
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you had to store them and keep
them and transport them.
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Nobody wanted these types
of weapons around.
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Chemical and biological weapons
are just not an effective way
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to kill people.
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There are better,
cheaper, easier,
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and more controllable ways
to do it.
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That's simply why Western
powers and Western militaries
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just don't like it.
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Despite their limitations
and international efforts
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to restrict their use,
chemical and biological weapons
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never really went away.
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In the 1920s and 1930s,
you see use of chemical weapons
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in colonial wars.
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First big example is what was
called the "Rift War."
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Spain was using
aerial bombardment
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to deliver chemical weapons
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against Berber rebels
in what's now Northern Morocco.
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Mussolini invaded Ethiopia,
which at the time
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was called Abyssinia.
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In the 1930s,
Japan invades China.
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And there was a fair amount
of use of chemical weapons
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by Japan against China.
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And all these cases,
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these are disproportionate uses
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because one side is actually
poor and not technically
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developed versus
an industrially developed,
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you know, attacker.
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The Japanese established
the infamous Unit 731 that
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developed and tested biological
capabilities against their own
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subjects in Chinese Manchuria.
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Those weapons would later
be used in the battlefield,
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including contaminating
the Horustein river
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with typhoid fever and bombing
the city of Ningbo
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with fleas carrying
bubonic plague.
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When you look at those
examples, they're basically
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examples of racist ideology,
because these chemical weapons
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are used and framed at the time
in a way that sort of paints
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the enemy as subhuman.
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At the end of
the Second World War in Europe,
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the Western Allies and
the Soviets basically stumbled
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upon this nerve agent research
program that had been operated
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in secrecy by the Nazis.
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And it was a fundamental
technological shift in chemical
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weapons because these were
far more effective weapons.
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During the Cold War,
planning for the use
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of chemical weapons
became popular
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in some of our war plans.
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It offered the ability
to deploy chemicals
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where there was a key pass
through mountains
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that could deny the enemy
access through it.
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Or, if they were gonna travel
through it, they would have
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to go to great pains
to prepare themselves to move
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through a chemically
contaminated area.
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Pressure against the use
of chemicals weapons
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by western democracies,
continued to rise
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during the latter half
of the century.
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The fear of being disadvantaged
in chemical warfare was real
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because the real-world impacts
could be so devastating.
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Biochemical weapons also have
a fear factor, so to speak.
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At times, the fear
of the weapon may actually
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be more impactful
than the weapon itself.
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The US used a lot of chemicals
in the Vietnam War,
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used a lot of tear gas.
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They used a lot of defoliants,
like Agent Orange.
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You ended up
with many square miles
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of South Vietnam
being totally defoliated.
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The debate rages to this day
whether or not,
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you know, basically
agricultural chemicals
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that were available
off the shelf to
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American farmers, whether you
really can call them
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chemical weapons or not.
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And then there were
a series of incidents.
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There was this thing called
the "Skull Valley incident."
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The US was testing
a chemical agent called VX,
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a nerve agent,
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and got the weather data
all wrong,
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and the VX went the wrong way.
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Poisoned and killed
thousands of sheep.
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And there was a big cover up,
but then the cover up
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was rumbled, and it became
a big embarrassment
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for the US Army.
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This incident was at a place
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called Dugway Proving Ground
in Utah.
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You had similar incidents
going on in the Soviet Union.
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There was this thing called
the "White Sea incident,"
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where basically the Volga River
got poisoned, and it was called
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the White Sea as a nickname
because of all the dead fish
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floating belly up in it.
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The Soviet stuff had
a reputation of being
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really dangerous.
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These tragic incidents
and growing public condemnation
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triggered a surprising turn
of events in the United States.
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I have decided that the United
States of America will renounce
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the use of any form
of deadly biological weapons
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that either kill
or incapacitate.
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Richard Nixon renounced
the use of biological weapons
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for the United States.
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Nixon renounced
the use of biological weapons.
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The entire United States
offensive program
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on biological warfare
came to a close,
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Devoting efforts toward
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saving life rather
than destroying life.
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At this point in the story,
you get a really unusual hero,
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Richard Nixon, of all people.
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When he comes into office
in 1969, he actually energizes
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this, this whole chemical,
biological arms control thing,
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and gets the US
out of biological weapons.
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And basically,
the chemical weapons stuff
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was pretty much frozen in time.
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And so it came to be that
the majority of chemical
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and biological weapons shifted
from military development
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into the security
and intelligence services,
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the spy agencies,
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for subterfuge,
for assassination,
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for subversion.
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Iraq has been accused
of massacring up to 4,000
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Kurdish men, women, and children
with chemical weapons.
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They would have been unaware
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that the lethal gases
would penetrate.
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That military concern
about the possible existence
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of a new Soviet chemical weapon.
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There were countless
heartbreaking sites which told
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stories of how parents had
desperately tried to shelter
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their young
from the invisible vapors.
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One example of this goes back
to the assassination
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of Bulgarian dissident
Georgi Markov in 1978.
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On the 7th of September,
1978, Markov was heading
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to work at the Bulgarian section
of the BBC.
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While waiting for the bus,
Markov felt an acute pain
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on his right thigh.
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As he looked behind,
he saw a man who apologized
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with a thick foreign accent
while picking up an umbrella
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from the floor.
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And then he crossed the road
and entered a taxi
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that drove away.
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While going to the restroom
at the BBC office,
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Markov noticed a red pimple
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had formed in the place
that he got stabbed
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by the umbrella.
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He would actually recall
this incident later
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to his colleague, Theo Lirkov.
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Later in the evening,
Georgi Markov developed
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a high fever.
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Concerned, he would go
to St James' Hospital,
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where he ended up
being hospitalized.
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His pulse was too rapid,
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considering the low
blood pressure.
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The wound on his thigh was
severely inflamed.
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A lab test revealed a soaring
white blood cell count.
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The following morning,
he started to vomit
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and had difficulty speaking.
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On the third day
in the hospital,
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Markov was sweating and dizzy,
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quite likely hallucinating,
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probably due to a toxic
shock-like syndrome resulting
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in a vascular collapse.
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His white blood cell count
nearly tripled.
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Later, his organs began to fail.
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He stopped passing urine
and started to vomit blood.
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His internal organs were
actually collapsing inside him.
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It sounds like the plot
of a political thriller
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from the Cold War era.
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Bulgarian dissident
assassinated in London.
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The murder of a Bulgarian
dissident, Georgi Markov.
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Was the victim of the so-called
"poisoned umbrella murder."
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Georgi Markov,
a leading Bulgarian dissident
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who worked for the BBC's World
Service, died days after being
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jabbed in the leg
by an umbrella.
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It was the first major
assassination in the Cold War.
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Detectives from Scotland Yard
have flown to Bulgaria
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several times
to question witnesses.
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The Bulgarians say
they'll bend their rules
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and continue the investigation.
But who might have done it?
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According to the autopsy
reports, Georgi Markov had
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developed an edema
in his lungs, a fatty change
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of the liver,
a hemorrhagic necrosis
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of the small intestines,
and suffered hemorrhages
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of the pancreas,
lymph node, and testicles.
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And coroners would finally find
the cause of this.
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They only really figured it out
at the autopsy
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because they found a very small
pellet in his thigh.
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And upon examination,
that small pellet contained
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traces of a chemical called
ricin, which is a naturally
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occurring toxin that is found
in castor beans.
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Georgi Markov was assassinated
using
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the Bulgarian umbrella,
as it is known, has a hidden
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mechanism where a pallet
containing ricin is hidden.
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This is being then injected
into the victim.
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The Bulgarian umbrella was also
allegedly used in the failed
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assassination attempt against
the Bulgarian dissident
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journalist Vladimir Kostov
in the same year
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on the Paris metro.
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Kostov...
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uh, survived,
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and he survived because
the blood had clotted around
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the small pellet, and I think
that kept a lot of the ricin
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in the pellet.
So he only got sick.
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He didn't actually die from it.
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No one who saw Markov or Kostov
being hit by an umbrella
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realized what had
exactly happened.
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Back then, there were
no surveillance cameras.
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It was much harder
to pinpoint the moment
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the dose was delivered.
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This gives a pretty good
window of opportunity
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for the killer to flee.
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Both assassination attempts are
believed to have been conducted
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by the Bulgarian secret service
with assistance from the KGB.
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Yet, till this day, no one
could identify who did it.
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Ricin is not hard to make.
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A good high school kid with
high school chemistry lab-type
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equipment can make it
from castor beans.
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And this puts it really
on the easy end of poisons,
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but also because a very,
very small amount of it
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is very deadly.
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It wasn't a shot from a sniper.
It wasn't designed to terrify.
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It wasn't designed to sow fear
in the public's imagination.
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But then that would change
after the end of the Cold War,
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when assassination was used
by the Russian state to sow fear
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and to guarantee
the certainty of reprisal.
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A former Russian agent dies
in London after lethal
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radiation poisoning.
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Died last night and this
morning the police moved in...
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The health protection
agency confirmed today
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that traces of radioactivity
were found.
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Tissue damage characteristic
of radiation.
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The question is,
"Where does it come from?"
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There are very few labs
in the world that can do it.
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We actually have evidence
that Russia has been creating
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and stockpiling Novichok.
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It was somebody's attempt
to send a spectacular message
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to others.
Radioactivity fuels fear.
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When the Cold War ended,
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the use of these weapons
did not.
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Only their purpose changed.
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The goal wasn't just to kill
one dissident, but to send
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a warning to all dissidents
through fear and intimidation.
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In 1993, Vladimir Kaplun,
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the director
of a packing company
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was killed
by radioactive material,
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probably cobalt 60
or cesium 137,
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which was placed
in his chair.
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A month after
his hospitalization,
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the cause of his death,
radiation poisoning,
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was found at the post mortem.
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In 2004, Roman Tsepov,
a politically influential
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Russian who provided security
to Vladimir Putin,
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amongst others, fell sick
on the 11th of September 2004,
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after a trip to Moscow.
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He died 13 days later.
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A post mortem investigation
found poisoning
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by an unspecified
radioactive material.
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A year before,
Yuri Shchekochikhin,
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a Russian political journalist
known for writing on organized
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crime and government
corruption, he was due to fly
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to the US to meet with FBI
investigators, but he suddenly
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fell ill and died.
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His medical records were
never released.
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And then in 2006,
Alexander Litvinenko,
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a former Russian agent who fled
his native country to live
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in London six years previously,
was suddenly hospitalized
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and died soon after.
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While on his deathbed,
he claimed his death was
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the result of an assassination
ordered by Russian government
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officials, the same punishment
he had publicly accused Putin
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of metering out on others.
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Litvinenko showed all signs
of radioactive poisoning.
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But the thing the thing is,
there are three different
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types of radiation--
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alpha particles, beta radiation,
and gamma radiation.
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And Geiger counters are much
better at detecting
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beta and gamma radiation,
while alpha radiation
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rarely shows up.
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It seems that Litvinenko was
poisoned with a substance
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emitting alpha radiation.
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It's believed that he'd
ingested polonium 210
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from a cup of tea.
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Samples of the agents taken
from Litvinenko were sent
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to the UK Atomic Weapons
Establishment at Aldermaston
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in Berkshire.
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The scientists detected
a substance whose alpha
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particles matched an isotope
known as polonium 210.
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Polonium 210 only comes
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from this one
commercial facility,
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and it's a very
short-lived substance.
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The pathway to this goes
straight to Putin and the FSB.
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So it's...
it's a clear fingerprint.
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It's not trying to be secretive.
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It's point is to scare anybody
else that might defect
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from Putin's inner circle.
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By this point,
Putin and the FSB made it clear
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that dissidents were fair game.
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This would become clear
to Sergei Skripal
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some 12 years later.
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The report of a male
and a female, gravely unwell.
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...found unconscious
in a bench, being treated
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for suspected exposure
to an unknown substance.
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Novichoks are
particularly identifiable.
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A new and deadly poison.
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Their condition does
remain critical.
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Detectives are focusing
on who was responsible.
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Highly likely that
the Russian state was involved.
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If you become a traitor,
you won't end good,
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as Putin said.
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Sergei Skripal is a former
Russian military intelligence
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officer who was arrested
by the Russian FSB for acting
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as a double agent for the UK's
intelligence agencies.
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After a spy swap, he settled
in the UK in 2010.
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But on the 4th of March 2018,
he and his daughter Yulia
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were poisoned
with a Novichok nerve agent.
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It showed that the Soviet Union
could reach its foes
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anywhere at anytime.
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The fact you could do this
in a very public place,
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and your assailants could get
away without being caught,
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is a very powerful
and useful attribute.
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A nation state may not
even have to have
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a working biological agent.
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The fear of that, in itself,
is a weapon of terror.
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But what happens when those
biological or chemical weapons
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fall in the hands
of a bad actor,
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whether it's a rogue state,
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a rogue individual,
or a rogue organization?
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The idea that using cheap
and readily available materials
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to produce a biological
or chemical weapon has a unique
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appeal for ground level
terrorist organizations.
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The indirect evidence is simply
the fact that Iraq, of course,
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was manufacturing
bacteriological weapons.
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Arguing that it's time now
to take on not just
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Osama bin Laden's network
and Afghanistan,
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but also Saddam Hussein
and Iraq, suspected of being
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the source and supplier
for chemical weapons.
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I don't think that we can
really afford not to be
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concerned about the prospects
that chemical or even
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biological weapons might not
find their way into terrorist
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attacks in the future.
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00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,920
The terrorist's job
is to strike terror.
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Even a small amount of
biological or chemical agents
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in their hands will get
the job done.
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Body count is almost
beside the point.
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One of the things that attracts
terror groups is that you could
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smuggle a fairly small amount
of a biological agent
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and create great devastation.
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And even if the numbers
of people killed
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aren't that great,
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the fact that it was
used as a terror weapon
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could cause mass panic.
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The utility of biological
weapons is partly because
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what they deliver is not death,
but fear, terror.
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These are the main aspects,
the main objectives
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of any ground level
terrorist organization.
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The Japanese government has
called it
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the indiscriminate
murder of innocent people.
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At the height of the morning
rush hour,
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00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,559
more than 3,000
subway passengers were affected.
502
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,359
This was Shoko Asahara's
terrible handiwork,
503
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:14,920
unsuspecting commuters poisoned
by deadly sarin nerve gas.
504
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,880
Nausea, bleeding, headaches,
505
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,240
and a dimming of vision.
506
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,320
Probably the most notorious
chemical terrorist attack
507
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,600
worldwide was in 1995,
508
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,200
when members
of the Aum Shinrikyo sect
509
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,559
in Japan used
a sarin nerve agent to kill 12
510
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,640
and injure more than a thousand
on a Tokyo subway.
511
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,440
But even before that,
in Matsumoto, the Aum cult used
512
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,520
a converted refrigerator truck
to dispense sarin
513
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,280
and killed some people.
514
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,280
And it's not an incident a lot
of people talk about
515
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,399
because it wasn't really
figured out at the time.
516
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,920
But if you look at their overall
517
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,239
effort and infrastructure,
they had the chemical warfare
518
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,479
research effort
of a small country.
519
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,119
Al Qaeda have attempted
to acquire chemical weapons.
520
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,960
This was a car bomb.
521
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,119
The Americans have promised
a dossier of evidence
522
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,159
against Iraq.
523
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,560
Al Qaeda,
they were aggressively seeking
524
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,920
to acquire biological
or chemical weapons.
525
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,040
In Afghanistan, Al Qaeda
had multiple small centers
526
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,239
where they were trying
to perfect
527
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,640
chemical and biological weapons.
528
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,160
One of the tasks when we first
went into Afghanistan was
529
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,639
to try to find these centers
and go to them so we could
530
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,719
ascertain how developed
Al Qaeda's programs
531
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,279
for chemical and biological
weapons was.
532
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:40,600
Al Qaeda initiated chlorine
attacks in Iraq in 2007.
533
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,640
At the beginning, these attacks
were quite inefficient,
534
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,799
but from 2006 onwards,
there were a series of attacks,
535
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,759
several of which caused
injuries and even fatalities.
536
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,439
Most of those were done
by blowing up vehicles
537
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,159
with tanks of chlorine.
538
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,599
In the end, the fatalities were
mainly caused by the explosions
539
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,039
rather than the toxic
fumes themselves.
540
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,439
But still, these types
of attacks also caused fear
541
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,920
and panic in the country.
542
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,440
The thing is,
you don't necessarily need
543
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:20,119
a big organization or terrorist
group for biochemical attacks.
544
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,159
Sometimes, a lone wolf,
a single terrorist,
545
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,039
is all that is needed.
546
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,599
We are confident that Dr. Ivins
547
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,679
was the only person
responsible for these attacks.
548
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,599
Samples that we took
from Senator Daschle's office,
549
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,839
it is indeed anthrax.
550
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,720
We cultured it,
and what we found out about it,
it's sensitive...
551
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,760
I understand he was aiming
for the people in Congress,
552
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,640
but he affected a whole lot
of other people.
553
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,559
Prepared to indict him
on capital murder charges
554
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,800
and the deaths of five people
poisoned by the anthrax.
555
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,640
Here's the messed up thing.
I knew Bruce Ivins.
556
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,880
I didn't know him really well.
I met him several times.
557
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,839
I might be of a minority
opinion here.
558
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,199
I don't think he actually
wanted to see anybody dead.
559
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,360
'Cause, at the end of the day,
anthrax is a treatable thing.
560
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,200
I think he wanted the attention.
561
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,239
He wanted to be the guy to come
in and save the day
562
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,879
'cause he was working
on new treatments for anthrax
563
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,000
and new anthrax vaccines.
564
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,000
He had this sort of twisted
psychology going on,
565
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,480
and clearly a deep inner life
that the rest of us
566
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,480
didn't understand at the time.
567
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,680
Serious counterterrorism
professionals
568
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,320
talk about "lone wolves."
569
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,360
He was a lone wolf,
but also there's a concept
570
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,799
of the "insider threat,"
571
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,400
because he was
the great anthrax expert.
572
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,400
The good news is we don't
actually see a lot of chemical
573
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:49,600
and biological terrorism.
574
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,960
And there's a lot of good
reasons for that, actually.
575
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,919
One of those is that
the technology,
576
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,280
for the most part, you know,
plateaued a long time ago.
577
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:05,959
The main reason why chemical
weapons plateaued is because
578
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,239
there was a realization
of their terrible effects
579
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,120
that seemed disproportionate,
580
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,880
and also made a lot of people
ask for their ban,
581
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,039
and they were eventually banned.
582
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,320
Advances in medicine
and science have also helped
583
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,479
to counteract the effects
of chemical weapons,
584
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,760
thereby rendering them
less effective.
585
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,919
But also, the cost benefit
ratio doesn't quite work.
586
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,240
They are too costly
587
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,040
for the military benefit
they produce.
588
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,959
Have a look at the Aum cult.
589
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,839
They had a lot of technical
expertise, they had a lot
590
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,240
of scientists
and engineers who joined.
591
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,399
And they spent an awful lot
of money.
592
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,880
They built this chemical
weapons research program
593
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,639
that was roughly
equivalent in size
594
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,920
to what Tito-era
Yugoslavia had.
595
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,560
But combined, you add up all
the people that they killed
596
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,040
with the chemical weapons,
it's something under 30.
597
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,719
So they're spending more than
a million dollars per fatality.
598
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,280
That's not really a sustainable
burn rate for even
599
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,280
a well-funded non-state actor.
600
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,920
It's perverse to think
about the economics
601
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,480
of killing people,
but it is a factor.
602
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,599
To some, biological weapons
might be a better bargain than
603
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,840
chemical weapons, though there
are other costs to consider.
604
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,119
Biological weapons can be quite
effective, and they are
605
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,800
considerably cheaper to produce
than chemical weapons.
606
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,760
Some studies suggest that it
can be 600 times cheaper
607
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,159
to produce a biological agent
rather than a chemical weapon.
608
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,080
But biological agents are quite
fragile and are often easily
609
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,999
destroyed by heat, which means
that finding a good way
610
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,280
to distribute it is
relatively difficult.
611
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,199
And it's hard to make
a rational argument
612
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,479
economically that chemical
and biological weapons
613
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,319
are somehow...
614
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,479
a better use of money than,
you know, bombs and guns.
615
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,679
You can buy a lot of AK47s
for what it's going to take you
616
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,480
to make a teaspoon of sarin.
617
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,159
In most cases,
traditional ballistic weapons
618
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,000
deliver the biggest bang
for the buck, while chemical
619
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,959
or biological agents are better
as psychological weapons.
620
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,439
At least for now.
621
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,480
And only if everybody
plays by the rules.
622
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,799
If you're a commander,
considering the offensive use
623
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,480
of chemical weapons,
624
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,519
there's a lot of things
to consider.
625
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,400
One is the fact that they're
non directional, meaning
626
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,840
that they're just as effective
against your own troops
627
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,359
as they are against the enemy.
628
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,479
Let's say we plan to use them
629
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,959
to clear a forward position
in advance.
630
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,840
The first thing I'm gonna
have to do is put
631
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,640
all of my forces
in protective gear.
632
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,159
That's gonna
restrict our movement.
633
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,640
Then we're gonna have
to move through
634
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,880
the contaminated area.
635
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,439
Once we clear that, we have
to go through decontamination.
636
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,240
We have to stop our advance
for long periods of time.
637
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,319
On the modern battlefield,
speed and maneuverability
638
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,879
are keys to success.
639
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,759
The use of chemical weapons
detracts from that,
640
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,719
and it's not
an attractive choice
641
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:19,480
in today's modern warfare.
642
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,280
The treaties, the Hague
Convention, the Lieber Code,
643
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,320
the Geneva Conventions,
and its protocols haven't
644
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,080
stopped examples of war crimes
in recent histories.
645
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,600
There are rules and there are
norms, but whether a nation
646
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:44,119
state decides to follow those
rules and norms is up to them.
647
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,160
For example, you're not allowed
to speed on the highway,
648
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,800
but people are going 20, 30,
40 miles beyond the speed limit
649
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,999
all day long.
It's just a matter
650
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,640
of getting caught and what
are the consequences,
651
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,039
but if it's a fight
for survival,
652
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,599
it's either me or you,
653
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,799
do those rules and norms
and ethics go out the window,
654
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,080
and it really does just come
down to a fight for survival?
655
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,880
There are some countries that
still consider the use
656
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,599
of chemical weapons.
657
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,039
These are generally countries
that do don't have a high
658
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,360
regard for the survivability
and welfare
659
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,079
of their own militaries.
660
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,760
So they don't care
if they waste them all
661
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,160
in their use
of a chemical weapon.
662
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,960
Last Saturday, up to 75 people,
663
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,559
including young children,
were killed.
664
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,679
The international community has
failed desperately over this.
665
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,279
These children have been killed
yesterday in Istanbul.
666
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,199
The Syrian regime,
under the leadership
667
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,880
of President Bashar al-Assad,
are responsible
668
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,559
for this attack.
669
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,919
What is the world
doing about it?
670
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,559
The world's most heinous
weapons must never again be
671
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,320
used against the world's most
vulnerable people.
672
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,239
A perfect example of this
is the Syria conflict.
673
00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:03,119
President Assad is basically
in a fight for his life
674
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,000
in a massive civil war
where their forces
675
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,639
are trying to oust him.
676
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,360
He believed that he was just
and needed to use chemicals
677
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,119
in the battlefield.
678
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,440
Regardless of treaties
or worldwide opinion,
679
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,559
biochemical weapons are here
to stay, and may even be
680
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,359
at the heart of a biochemical
arms race powered by AI.
681
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:27,080
We saw an AI that within six
hours created 40,000 new
682
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,120
chemical molecules,
each of which were more toxic
683
00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:33,280
than those we had known so far.
684
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,360
That means that you
no longer need a PhD
685
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,719
in chemistry to create
a chemical weapon,
686
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:44,280
but more or less anyone
can do it with the help of AI.
687
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,119
There are still laboratories
around the world that store
688
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,199
the plague virus, for example.
689
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,800
So we know that research
is still being done.
690
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,480
Of course, primarily to find
antidotes, and to find ways
691
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,679
to counter these attacks
with such systems.
692
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,680
But it also means that further
development is possible.
693
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,639
Pathogens are messy
and difficult to control.
694
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,400
Now imagine if one could be
tailor-made to target
695
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,160
an ethnic group
or even an individual.
696
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,440
Provided you had an accurate
copy of the person's DNA
697
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,919
fingerprint, you could release
a weapon from thousands
698
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,080
of miles away, not just
over the horizon.
699
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,640
You could not worry
about spreading infection,
700
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,080
but you'd know that only one
person would be impacted.
701
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,279
You no longer
have the complications
702
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,880
and difficulties of targeting
surveillance and understanding
703
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,919
the battle space.
704
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,560
This could be the gold standard
of assassination.
705
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,119
The unintended consequences,
however, of this kind of action
706
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,720
would be incredible.
707
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,559
Think about not just
the applications of such
708
00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:00,799
a force, but the irresponsible
actors using unaligned science
709
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,200
that get the sequence slightly
out of place.
710
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,120
It's about the spread of
a virus throughout a population
711
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:10,679
that potentially has
the ability to mutate.
712
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,199
The misunderstanding
of developers of these
713
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,960
capabilities adds huge danger
across populations.
714
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,919
When you're talking
about biological attacks
715
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,559
against critical infrastructure,
716
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,719
particularly food resources,
water, um...
717
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:27,360
or other parts of society,
718
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,240
what does that impact
do on the civilian population?
719
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,040
And what are the second,
third order effects of that?
720
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,839
And what are the long term
effects of that as well?
721
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,399
There's really no controlling
on who that attacks
722
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,080
or who that impairs
or who it harms or kills.
723
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,520
The impact of a biological
weapon on the food supply
724
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,639
could be catastrophic.
725
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,719
Imagine developing a biological
agent that would destroy
726
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:54,360
an essential crop
like rice or wheat.
727
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,319
Rice from India accounts
for 40% of the global supply,
728
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,159
or the wheat crops
in Northern America
729
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,840
supply a quarter
of the world's exports.
730
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,880
If these crops were to be
targeted by a biological
731
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,480
weapon, the impact
could be devastating.
732
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,479
So we really are
at the precipice
733
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,160
of a very slippery slope.
734
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,079
Once a biological weapon has
been invented and created
735
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:23,160
and put out there, what's
to stop a rogue element within
736
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,479
that nation, a rogue actor,
or a terrorist organization
737
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,280
getting their hands
on that weapon?
738
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,440
And what is it
that'll unleash
739
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,160
in terms of kind
of the horrors of the impact
740
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,680
on the civilian population
that's not in the fight?
741
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:41,319
The other thing that bothers me
is actually we live
742
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,440
in a very technological society.
743
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,040
We use a lot of chemicals
in commerce and industry.
744
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:50,680
Can you do chemical warfare
by proxy by bombing
745
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,520
somebody's chemical plant
or sabotaging it?
746
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,160
And actually, you can.
747
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,039
So...
748
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,520
It's not traditional chemical
warfare, but it's...
749
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,719
very much a possibility,
particularly when we start
750
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:05,479
seeing, you know,
this Russia-Ukraine conflict.
751
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,119
Both sides have got large
chemical factories,
752
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,280
and you know, use a lot
of chemicals in agriculture.
753
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,240
So, if you set fire to a large
factory complex,
754
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,159
it's making, actually quite
nasty chemicals
755
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,600
for legitimate use...
756
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:21,680
that's a problem.
757
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,199
What we know about what
the global superpowers
758
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,560
are thinking about
the next great global war
759
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,040
is that it won't be a use
of nuclear weapons,
760
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,760
electromagnetic pulses...
761
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:42,240
It won't be the use of chemical
and biological weapons
762
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,840
as their chosen ways
of fighting the next war.
763
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,440
But they do have strategies.
764
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,120
They do have an understanding
of potentially what they will
765
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:53,280
use as their next weapons
in the conflicts to come.
766
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,399
And what will the consequences
of this future be?
767
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,880
Whatever weapons they choose
must have
768
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,840
certainty, accuracy,
lethality, and deliverability.
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