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Good. 15 00:01:03,563 --> 00:01:04,772 CLAIRE: 16 00:01:04,813 --> 00:01:06,000 Yeah, they are a little bit long. 17 00:01:06,024 --> 00:01:08,193 I think we need to go with the 29s. 18 00:01:08,276 --> 00:01:09,527 JERRY: There you go. 19 00:01:10,236 --> 00:01:11,297 Did you want to go shorter? 20 00:01:11,321 --> 00:01:12,882 But that's basically where they should live. 21 00:01:12,906 --> 00:01:14,467 Well, if that's the way they're supposed to be 22 00:01:14,491 --> 00:01:15,968 then that's the way they're supposed to be. 23 00:01:15,992 --> 00:01:17,118 I'll go with that then. 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,804 Yeah, any time, all your slack should hit about 25 00:01:18,828 --> 00:01:19,930 right at the back of the heel. 26 00:01:19,954 --> 00:01:22,207 That's rule of thumb. 27 00:01:22,289 --> 00:01:24,334 Yeah, see, I'm so used to doing this with my mom, 28 00:01:24,417 --> 00:01:26,062 but all my family's out of state right now. 29 00:01:26,086 --> 00:01:27,670 - Oh, my gosh. (CHUCKLES) - So... 30 00:01:27,754 --> 00:01:30,215 - You're on your own. (LAUGHING) - Yeah, finally. 31 00:01:30,298 --> 00:01:32,342 And I'm sure you probably think it's really funny, 32 00:01:32,383 --> 00:01:33,926 but we're doing a documentary 33 00:01:34,009 --> 00:01:36,012 because I just got off death row. 34 00:01:36,054 --> 00:01:37,388 Oh, okay. 35 00:01:38,098 --> 00:01:39,140 (POLICE SIREN BLARING) 36 00:01:39,182 --> 00:01:40,308 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 37 00:01:40,350 --> 00:01:42,030 NEWSCASTER 1: Four young Austin girls dead. 38 00:01:42,060 --> 00:01:45,039 NEWSCASTER 2: at the I Can't Believe It's Yogurt! shop, where two of them worked. 39 00:01:45,063 --> 00:01:47,690 NEWSCASTER 1: Shot and killed during an apparent robbery. 40 00:01:47,774 --> 00:01:49,001 NEWSCASTER 3: The bodies were found 41 00:01:49,025 --> 00:01:50,819 in the back of the shop, badly burned. 42 00:01:50,860 --> 00:01:52,880 NEWSCASTER 4: Authorities are sifting through the evidence 43 00:01:52,904 --> 00:01:54,280 hoping to find some answers. 44 00:01:54,364 --> 00:01:57,366 LANIER PRINCIPAL: The Lanier school community have been saddened 45 00:01:57,450 --> 00:02:00,245 by the tragic deaths of four young ladies 46 00:02:00,328 --> 00:02:01,704 for whom we mourn today. 47 00:02:01,788 --> 00:02:03,498 AMY NEWMAN: I can't believe it happened. 48 00:02:03,540 --> 00:02:06,417 I guess I had to see for myself that it really did. 49 00:02:06,501 --> 00:02:08,145 You don't ever think anybody's going to come 50 00:02:08,169 --> 00:02:09,503 into a yogurt place... 51 00:02:09,545 --> 00:02:11,631 (SNIFFLES) ...and shoot you and all your friends. 52 00:02:11,714 --> 00:02:14,634 This just doesn't happen at the yogurt place. (CRYING) 53 00:02:14,717 --> 00:02:16,010 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 54 00:02:16,052 --> 00:02:19,889 You sure have been most helpful and very generous today, 55 00:02:19,931 --> 00:02:22,051 so I'll definitely come back and do business with you. 56 00:02:24,269 --> 00:02:26,454 Because I used to be a salesman at Radio Shack myself... 57 00:02:26,478 --> 00:02:27,873 - JERRY: Oh, did you? - so I understand 58 00:02:27,897 --> 00:02:29,816 a little bit of what you're going through, yeah. 59 00:02:29,899 --> 00:02:32,277 Yeah, I've spent two years in a county jail 60 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:33,903 and then four years on death row 61 00:02:33,945 --> 00:02:36,447 and then two years in population. 62 00:02:36,531 --> 00:02:38,384 NEWSCASTER: Seventeen-year-old Jennifer Harbison, 63 00:02:38,408 --> 00:02:41,995 her 15-year-old sister Sarah, and 17-year-old Eliza Thomas 64 00:02:42,078 --> 00:02:45,248 all died from a single gunshot wound to the back of the head. 65 00:02:45,290 --> 00:02:47,584 Thirteen-year-old Amy Ayers was shot twice 66 00:02:47,625 --> 00:02:48,751 in the back of the head. 67 00:02:48,835 --> 00:02:51,379 REPORTER: "Senseless" is a word being used most often 68 00:02:51,421 --> 00:02:54,174 as police describe Austin's worst murder case. 69 00:02:55,300 --> 00:02:59,179 ♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 70 00:03:01,598 --> 00:03:03,200 - First name? - ROBERT SPRINGSTEEN: It's Robert. 71 00:03:03,224 --> 00:03:04,267 Robert. 72 00:03:04,309 --> 00:03:06,078 - And your last name, Robert? - ROBERT: Springsteen. 73 00:03:06,102 --> 00:03:07,729 Oh. (CHUCKLES) 74 00:03:07,770 --> 00:03:08,980 Not related to Bruce, though? 75 00:03:09,063 --> 00:03:12,442 Well, as a matter of fact, I am. He's like my dad's sixth cousin. 76 00:03:12,483 --> 00:03:14,611 So, I guess it would... Make him my seventh cousin. 77 00:03:14,694 --> 00:03:16,446 JERRY: Wow. 78 00:03:16,529 --> 00:03:18,299 -All righty. Got you all set, guys. -All right. 79 00:03:18,323 --> 00:03:19,866 - Good luck to you. - ROBERT: Thank you. 80 00:03:19,949 --> 00:03:21,677 Everything's going to work out okay? (CHUCKLES) 81 00:03:21,701 --> 00:03:23,846 ROBERT: It sure seems that way, at least for right now. 82 00:03:23,870 --> 00:03:25,014 You're off to a good start, man. 83 00:03:25,038 --> 00:03:26,098 - Thank you, Jerry. - Thank you. 84 00:03:26,122 --> 00:03:27,474 I appreciate your... - Hey, no problem. 85 00:03:27,498 --> 00:03:29,268 - assistance today. - You bet. You have a good one. 86 00:03:29,292 --> 00:03:30,460 JERRY: Thank you very much. 87 00:03:30,543 --> 00:03:32,629 ♪ ("DEVIL TOWN" BY ALLEGRA KRIEGER PLAYING) ♪ 88 00:03:32,712 --> 00:03:38,927 ♪ I was livin' in a devil town ♪ 89 00:03:38,968 --> 00:03:43,680 ♪ Didn't know It was a devil town ♪ 90 00:03:46,392 --> 00:03:50,772 ♪ Oh lord It really brings me down ♪ 91 00:03:50,813 --> 00:03:55,151 ♪ About the devil town ♪ 92 00:03:55,192 --> 00:04:01,324 ♪ I was livin' in a devil town ♪ 93 00:04:01,366 --> 00:04:08,373 ♪ Didn't know It was a devil town ♪ 94 00:04:08,539 --> 00:04:13,336 ♪ Oh lord It really brings me down ♪ 95 00:04:13,419 --> 00:04:16,130 ♪ About the devil town ♪ 96 00:04:16,172 --> 00:04:18,841 ♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪ 97 00:04:18,925 --> 00:04:20,093 ASSISTANT: Is this okay? 98 00:04:20,176 --> 00:04:21,695 JUSTIN ZEIFWACH: A little higher, please. 99 00:04:21,719 --> 00:04:23,638 A little higher, a little higher. There you go. 100 00:04:30,144 --> 00:04:31,914 MARGARET BROWN: Whenever you're ready, just tell me. 101 00:04:31,938 --> 00:04:33,856 - Yeah. - MARGARET: I think we're ready. 102 00:04:33,898 --> 00:04:35,692 - You ready? - Yeah. 103 00:04:35,775 --> 00:04:37,277 - Let's go. - MARGARET: Let's do it. 104 00:04:38,236 --> 00:04:41,197 - Thank you, sir, for doing this. - You're welcome. 105 00:04:41,281 --> 00:04:42,490 MARGARET: I am curious 106 00:04:42,532 --> 00:04:44,659 about what initially drew you to the story. 107 00:04:47,578 --> 00:04:50,123 I just was curious about how you got involved in this, 108 00:04:50,206 --> 00:04:51,207 the yogurt shop. 109 00:04:51,291 --> 00:04:52,834 Okay. 110 00:04:52,875 --> 00:04:54,728 MARGARET: How does it feel to be part of this thing, 111 00:04:54,752 --> 00:04:56,045 31 years later? 112 00:04:56,129 --> 00:04:57,463 What does that feel like? 113 00:05:01,175 --> 00:05:03,386 (SIGHS) Uh... 114 00:05:03,428 --> 00:05:05,364 MARGARET: I'm interested in the trauma that surrounds 115 00:05:05,388 --> 00:05:07,181 -this case because... -The what? 116 00:05:07,223 --> 00:05:09,225 MARGARET: The trauma that surrounds this case. 117 00:05:09,267 --> 00:05:12,687 The depth that people like you cared about it. 118 00:05:13,938 --> 00:05:16,149 You know, I'm interested because Austin is where I live. 119 00:05:16,232 --> 00:05:18,985 I remember this case. I know how important it is. 120 00:05:19,068 --> 00:05:20,820 But also, like, is there a way 121 00:05:20,903 --> 00:05:23,865 that this story can help with healing? 122 00:05:23,906 --> 00:05:26,242 ♪ (SENTIMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 123 00:05:26,326 --> 00:05:29,037 Um, that's a very open question. (LAUGHS) 124 00:05:29,078 --> 00:05:30,913 MARGARET: Yeah, I think it is. 125 00:05:30,955 --> 00:05:32,915 At a point, it's just, do you want to... 126 00:05:37,003 --> 00:05:39,297 Do you want to be the weak person 127 00:05:39,380 --> 00:05:42,550 and just have this thing totally consume your life? 128 00:05:42,592 --> 00:05:44,177 Or do you want to go ahead and live? 129 00:05:44,260 --> 00:05:46,012 People don't want to talk about their grief. 130 00:05:46,095 --> 00:05:47,597 That's private. 131 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,933 It's just, I've learned to deal with it in different ways. 132 00:05:51,976 --> 00:05:54,854 People are afraid to share the brutality 133 00:05:54,937 --> 00:05:56,064 that they've been through. 134 00:05:58,232 --> 00:06:01,361 MARGARET: What comes up first when you think of her? 135 00:06:03,488 --> 00:06:09,035 Uh, for one, it's been 30 years, seven months, and five days 136 00:06:09,118 --> 00:06:10,495 and I still can't believe it. 137 00:06:14,290 --> 00:06:16,459 ♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 138 00:06:16,501 --> 00:06:18,795 CLAIRE: There are a lot of details to the case. 139 00:06:18,836 --> 00:06:21,798 There are a lot of people with strong opinions. 140 00:06:21,881 --> 00:06:24,801 You think you know one thing and then you talk to somebody 141 00:06:24,884 --> 00:06:28,513 and they convince you of an entirely different thing. 142 00:06:29,514 --> 00:06:31,808 That's right. On this day in 1991, 143 00:06:31,891 --> 00:06:34,310 four teenagers were shot and murdered 144 00:06:34,352 --> 00:06:37,897 inside what was a yogurt shop in this strip mall. 145 00:06:37,980 --> 00:06:41,818 What you're reduced to is just people's experiences 146 00:06:41,901 --> 00:06:44,487 of the crime and its effects. 147 00:06:49,700 --> 00:06:52,412 ♪ ("PEPPER" BY BUTTHOLE SURFERS PLAYING) ♪ 148 00:07:07,427 --> 00:07:10,304 ♪ Some will die in hot pursuit Fiery auto crashes... ♪ 149 00:07:10,346 --> 00:07:13,474 INTERVIEWER 1: We're here in the drag in Austin, Texas, 150 00:07:13,516 --> 00:07:16,227 asking people about life on other planets. 151 00:07:17,228 --> 00:07:19,522 Whoa, check it out, check it out. Bam! 152 00:07:19,564 --> 00:07:22,525 ♪ I don't mind The sun sometimes... ♪ 153 00:07:22,567 --> 00:07:24,861 INTERVIEWER 1: What'd you have for breakfast this morning? 154 00:07:24,902 --> 00:07:26,904 I don't remember. I was pretty wasted. 155 00:07:27,738 --> 00:07:28,924 INTERVIEWER 2: Are you a student? 156 00:07:28,948 --> 00:07:32,201 Uh, no, actually. I'm just in a band mostly. 157 00:07:34,829 --> 00:07:37,415 REPORTER: Someone with some big bucks had big plans 158 00:07:37,498 --> 00:07:39,959 to change the landscape. 159 00:07:40,042 --> 00:07:42,128 AUSTIN RESIDENT: I feel bad about being displaced 160 00:07:42,211 --> 00:07:44,213 by all those people coming here, right. 161 00:07:44,297 --> 00:07:46,132 And it makes me wonder 162 00:07:46,215 --> 00:07:47,884 what's going to happen in the future. 163 00:07:48,468 --> 00:07:50,970 ♪ (SONG FADES) ♪ 164 00:07:51,053 --> 00:07:53,139 CLAIRE: Austin used to be a little college town. 165 00:07:55,391 --> 00:07:57,435 And then it started to become a big city. 166 00:07:59,020 --> 00:08:01,606 And a big-city crime happened here. 167 00:08:02,523 --> 00:08:04,317 CLAIRE: 168 00:08:07,570 --> 00:08:09,423 Well, it was one of the most shocking stories I've heard 169 00:08:09,447 --> 00:08:10,757 in the 20 years that I've lived here. 170 00:08:10,781 --> 00:08:11,991 People were scared to go out. 171 00:08:12,074 --> 00:08:13,784 People were scared to go get yogurt. 172 00:08:13,868 --> 00:08:15,786 I mean, how scary is that? 173 00:08:15,870 --> 00:08:17,413 I don't know that the city of Austin 174 00:08:17,455 --> 00:08:20,082 has ever been the same since the yogurt shop murders. 175 00:08:20,166 --> 00:08:22,418 I mean, that was a loss of innocence 176 00:08:22,502 --> 00:08:24,003 for this town for sure. 177 00:08:24,086 --> 00:08:26,214 ♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 178 00:08:26,255 --> 00:08:28,466 CLAIRE: The yogurt shop murders was like a ghost story 179 00:08:28,549 --> 00:08:29,759 that people told. 180 00:08:30,635 --> 00:08:33,261 It was always told in hushed tones, 181 00:08:33,304 --> 00:08:34,554 "This happened here." 182 00:08:37,308 --> 00:08:40,436 Partly because nobody has all the details. 183 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,980 Also because it was never solved. 184 00:08:45,691 --> 00:08:47,902 This case was so big in Austin. 185 00:08:47,944 --> 00:08:50,905 It was exciting to work on a film about it, 186 00:08:50,947 --> 00:08:53,199 even if I didn't really know what I was doing. 187 00:08:58,663 --> 00:09:02,041 CLAIRE: So, that was in, I think all of this filming took place 188 00:09:02,124 --> 00:09:05,086 is around 2009, I guess. 189 00:09:05,127 --> 00:09:06,462 And I'm sure you probably think 190 00:09:06,546 --> 00:09:08,589 it's really funny, but we're doing a documentary 191 00:09:08,631 --> 00:09:10,675 because I just got off death row. 192 00:09:10,758 --> 00:09:12,468 Oh, okay. 193 00:09:12,552 --> 00:09:16,264 CLAIRE: I was taking a video class and I had access 194 00:09:16,305 --> 00:09:20,643 because I had this friend who had worked on the case. 195 00:09:20,726 --> 00:09:22,061 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 196 00:09:22,144 --> 00:09:23,354 Can you see it from there? 197 00:09:24,564 --> 00:09:26,482 CLAIRE: Hold it out... Hold it up like that. 198 00:09:28,067 --> 00:09:29,860 And then I didn't finish it. 199 00:09:31,362 --> 00:09:33,489 Of course, I had all this amazing footage 200 00:09:33,573 --> 00:09:35,866 to look back on. 201 00:09:35,950 --> 00:09:37,469 LOUIS AKIN: Um, tonight, we're going out 202 00:09:37,493 --> 00:09:40,246 to the... where the yogurt shop used to be, the building, 203 00:09:40,746 --> 00:09:42,164 to test a theory. 204 00:09:42,206 --> 00:09:43,540 CLAIRE: This was a kind of case 205 00:09:43,624 --> 00:09:46,002 that never left anybody who worked on it. 206 00:09:46,043 --> 00:09:48,504 When these shootings happened, 207 00:09:48,588 --> 00:09:51,340 there were a bunch of boys drinking in a creek 208 00:09:51,382 --> 00:09:54,302 right behind the yogurt shop. 209 00:09:54,343 --> 00:09:56,637 It's where that cash advance store was. 210 00:09:57,305 --> 00:09:59,348 That used to be the yogurt shop. 211 00:10:02,143 --> 00:10:04,145 There were booths along the sides 212 00:10:04,186 --> 00:10:06,188 and there were tables in the middle. 213 00:10:08,649 --> 00:10:11,902 And the cashier would be behind that... 214 00:10:11,986 --> 00:10:14,280 Looks like a fica tree, but I think it's plastic. 215 00:10:16,699 --> 00:10:18,701 And that counter there 216 00:10:18,784 --> 00:10:21,078 where people would come up and order yogurt. 217 00:10:22,288 --> 00:10:25,166 Behind that, they had the refrigerators 218 00:10:25,207 --> 00:10:26,751 and there's a separate room back there. 219 00:10:26,834 --> 00:10:32,673 And it was back there that the girls were killed 220 00:10:32,715 --> 00:10:34,800 and that the place was set on fire. 221 00:10:36,052 --> 00:10:38,929 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 222 00:10:40,431 --> 00:10:42,558 AKIN: It's a little chilling standing here like this. 223 00:10:43,934 --> 00:10:45,561 There was a terrible tragedy here. 224 00:10:47,104 --> 00:10:49,023 Let's go head down and we'll position 225 00:10:49,065 --> 00:10:50,399 the film crew. 226 00:10:52,777 --> 00:10:56,238 CLAIRE: This case doesn't make any sense. 227 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,199 And everybody who was touched by it 228 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,576 can't get to the bottom of the narrative. 229 00:11:05,998 --> 00:11:07,083 (RADIO BEEPING) 230 00:11:07,124 --> 00:11:08,918 - POLICE DISPATCH: Jonesy. - JOHN JONES: Yeah. 231 00:11:08,959 --> 00:11:11,921 POLICE DISPATCH: Did you hear about the call 2900, West Anderson? 232 00:11:12,004 --> 00:11:13,899 - Yeah, I'm headed over there. - POLICE DISPATCH: Okay. 233 00:11:13,923 --> 00:11:15,591 I'll meet you out there. 234 00:11:15,633 --> 00:11:17,843 - (DEVICE BEEPING) - JONES: 2900. 235 00:11:20,638 --> 00:11:23,099 - (WALKIE TALKIE BEEPING) - Homicide four. 236 00:11:23,140 --> 00:11:25,434 (POLICE SIREN BLARING) 237 00:11:26,352 --> 00:11:27,645 ♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 238 00:11:27,728 --> 00:11:29,790 JONES: People ask me all the time, "How long are you in homicide?" 239 00:11:29,814 --> 00:11:31,982 And my response is, "153 bodies." 240 00:11:33,234 --> 00:11:34,777 Because that's how you measure time 241 00:11:34,819 --> 00:11:36,862 when you're a homicide detective. 242 00:11:38,864 --> 00:11:40,425 NEWS ANCHOR: In some cities across the state, 243 00:11:40,449 --> 00:11:42,910 people are killing each other in record numbers. 244 00:11:42,952 --> 00:11:44,620 Tonight, we take a look at Austin 245 00:11:44,704 --> 00:11:46,288 as crime reporter Lisa Kosolou 246 00:11:46,330 --> 00:11:47,957 continues her Channel 7 news close-up. 247 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,626 JONES: A Channel 7 reporter was doing a series 248 00:11:50,710 --> 00:11:52,962 on murder in Texas. 249 00:11:53,003 --> 00:11:55,798 They went riding around with me, and then we made calls. 250 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,218 There seemed to be a lot more random murders, 251 00:11:59,844 --> 00:12:01,387 random violence. 252 00:12:01,470 --> 00:12:04,432 And then while we were at the last call, 253 00:12:04,473 --> 00:12:06,350 they called me on my handheld radio. 254 00:12:07,351 --> 00:12:08,436 (RADIO BEEPS) 255 00:12:08,477 --> 00:12:10,479 Okay, I'm copying the fire part. 256 00:12:10,521 --> 00:12:12,606 You cut out on the first part of that, though. 257 00:12:14,608 --> 00:12:16,777 And I go, "Fire?" 258 00:12:16,819 --> 00:12:18,404 because they wouldn't need me for it. 259 00:12:19,530 --> 00:12:24,160 POLICE DISPATCH: 260 00:12:24,201 --> 00:12:26,871 - (RADIO BEEPS) - That's 10-4. Going around. 261 00:12:26,954 --> 00:12:29,498 (SIRENS BLARING) 262 00:12:29,540 --> 00:12:31,417 JONES: (CLEARS THROAT) A triple fatality. 263 00:12:32,209 --> 00:12:34,003 A murder. Great. 264 00:12:35,129 --> 00:12:37,965 (SIRENS BLARING) 265 00:12:38,007 --> 00:12:39,133 (RADIO BEEPS) 266 00:12:39,175 --> 00:12:41,677 JONES: Uh, where do I need to come to, in here? 267 00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:43,429 What place of business is this? 268 00:12:45,848 --> 00:12:48,851 POLICE DISPATCH: 269 00:12:48,934 --> 00:12:50,478 - (RADIO BEEPS) - JONES: Okay. 270 00:12:53,105 --> 00:12:54,899 By the time I got there, 271 00:12:54,982 --> 00:12:56,525 as I pulled into the parking lot, 272 00:12:56,609 --> 00:12:58,194 was when they called me on the radio 273 00:12:58,235 --> 00:12:59,570 and said they found a fourth one. 274 00:13:09,330 --> 00:13:11,373 I had to go in through 275 00:13:11,415 --> 00:13:13,751 the party shop, which was next door, 276 00:13:13,834 --> 00:13:15,353 because I couldn't go in the front door 277 00:13:15,377 --> 00:13:17,022 because the fire department was still in there 278 00:13:17,046 --> 00:13:18,172 knocking down the fire. 279 00:13:18,214 --> 00:13:21,091 (POLICE SIRES BLARING IN A DISTANCE) 280 00:13:23,886 --> 00:13:25,846 JONES: It was still smoldering. 281 00:13:25,888 --> 00:13:27,389 They had pulled down the ceiling, 282 00:13:27,431 --> 00:13:29,475 so there was water everywhere. 283 00:13:29,558 --> 00:13:32,478 There was steam everywhere. There was smoke everywhere. 284 00:13:34,772 --> 00:13:38,984 As it started to clear out, you could see the bodies. 285 00:13:40,236 --> 00:13:43,697 Three together and then one away from the others. 286 00:13:48,369 --> 00:13:51,080 I'm not at all afraid to go in the room 287 00:13:51,163 --> 00:13:52,373 to see a dead person. 288 00:13:53,582 --> 00:13:55,918 I don't want to see no dead child. 289 00:13:56,001 --> 00:13:58,254 That don't work with me. 290 00:13:58,337 --> 00:14:00,714 (INDISTINCT POLICE RADIO CHATTER) 291 00:14:06,095 --> 00:14:08,973 JONES: The obvious question when you got females 292 00:14:09,932 --> 00:14:12,518 that are stripped, shot, and burned is, 293 00:14:12,601 --> 00:14:14,311 were they sexually assaulted? 294 00:14:16,146 --> 00:14:17,773 When a body's been declared dead, 295 00:14:17,857 --> 00:14:19,984 it belongs to the medical examiner. 296 00:14:20,067 --> 00:14:23,404 The medical examiner wanted to just load them up 297 00:14:23,445 --> 00:14:25,447 and take them down to the morgue 298 00:14:25,489 --> 00:14:27,157 to do an autopsy. 299 00:14:27,241 --> 00:14:29,910 But I wanted them to wait until DPS got there 300 00:14:29,952 --> 00:14:31,453 so they could do swabs, 301 00:14:31,537 --> 00:14:34,623 because DNA was something fairly new then. 302 00:14:34,707 --> 00:14:37,960 But I knew and Huck knew that that was important. 303 00:14:38,002 --> 00:14:39,962 And if it hadn't been for Huck... 304 00:14:40,045 --> 00:14:41,898 You know, he's the one who talked 'em into waiting 305 00:14:41,922 --> 00:14:44,049 until DPS got there. 306 00:14:47,553 --> 00:14:49,179 We called the manager. 307 00:14:49,263 --> 00:14:52,141 She said there's only supposed to be two girls there. 308 00:14:52,224 --> 00:14:55,311 Only Jennifer and Eliza actually worked there. 309 00:14:55,394 --> 00:14:58,772 ♪ (MELANCHOLY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 310 00:14:58,814 --> 00:15:01,150 REESE PRICE: It was my first day of my vacation, 311 00:15:01,233 --> 00:15:04,570 and my mother-in-law knocked on the door 312 00:15:04,653 --> 00:15:06,488 and said, you know, "You got a phone call. 313 00:15:06,572 --> 00:15:09,158 The police are on the phone for you." 314 00:15:09,241 --> 00:15:10,993 And no phone call in the middle of the night 315 00:15:11,035 --> 00:15:12,578 is a good call. Never. 316 00:15:12,661 --> 00:15:14,997 I was just kind of like, "Yes, sir?" 317 00:15:15,039 --> 00:15:17,750 He said, "We've had a fire at the yogurt shop." 318 00:15:17,833 --> 00:15:19,919 And I'm looking at the time and I'm like, 319 00:15:20,628 --> 00:15:21,837 "Okay, let it burn?" 320 00:15:21,879 --> 00:15:24,465 You know, I was kind of kidding because I knew 321 00:15:24,506 --> 00:15:26,300 that the girls would have been finished. 322 00:15:26,342 --> 00:15:28,510 And he says, "Well, I need you to sit down." 323 00:15:28,552 --> 00:15:31,764 I'm like, "I'm fine. What's... What's wrong?" 324 00:15:31,847 --> 00:15:35,059 And he said, "No, no, no. I need you to sit down." 325 00:15:35,142 --> 00:15:37,978 And again, he tried to warn me. 326 00:15:38,020 --> 00:15:40,606 And I said, "No, sir, what's wrong?" 327 00:15:40,689 --> 00:15:43,108 And he said, "Well, we have four dead bodies." 328 00:15:45,110 --> 00:15:47,696 And my knees went... They just... Boom! 329 00:15:54,745 --> 00:15:57,373 And he said, "Can you come up here?" 330 00:16:01,669 --> 00:16:04,463 It's slow motion. It's literally slow motion. 331 00:16:05,631 --> 00:16:07,549 There was like this mist. 332 00:16:07,633 --> 00:16:09,551 And I could see the yogurt shop 333 00:16:09,593 --> 00:16:12,346 and there was just lights flashing everywhere, 334 00:16:12,388 --> 00:16:13,889 sirens, fire trucks. 335 00:16:13,973 --> 00:16:16,684 And I remember sort of a panic hitting in, 336 00:16:16,725 --> 00:16:19,019 "Okay, this is real. 337 00:16:19,061 --> 00:16:20,562 This is real. This is real." 338 00:16:23,023 --> 00:16:25,985 We pulled up, and I think it was Jones and Huckabay. 339 00:16:26,527 --> 00:16:28,404 One of them said, 340 00:16:28,445 --> 00:16:31,073 "Do you... Do you think that if we went inside, 341 00:16:31,156 --> 00:16:32,908 you could identify the bodies?" 342 00:16:33,450 --> 00:16:34,576 "Sure." 343 00:16:34,618 --> 00:16:36,245 They said it'd be better for me to do it 344 00:16:36,286 --> 00:16:37,538 than their families. 345 00:16:41,625 --> 00:16:43,752 I was only 24. 346 00:16:43,836 --> 00:16:48,090 I wasn't thinking fire and burned people. 347 00:16:48,132 --> 00:16:51,427 I agreed to it because it was the right thing to do, 348 00:16:51,468 --> 00:16:53,762 and I still feel that to this day. 349 00:16:54,513 --> 00:16:55,556 It was just best. 350 00:16:58,350 --> 00:17:00,102 There was fire trucks in the back alley 351 00:17:00,144 --> 00:17:01,520 and there was media everywhere. 352 00:17:03,105 --> 00:17:05,315 We wound up going through the front of the store. 353 00:17:08,652 --> 00:17:10,863 There's no lights. Dark. 354 00:17:12,823 --> 00:17:16,617 You know, you got the counter, the machines, 355 00:17:16,702 --> 00:17:19,163 and then there's the door that leads you to the back. 356 00:17:23,500 --> 00:17:26,295 The water was dripping down on you, and it was dark. 357 00:17:26,377 --> 00:17:27,921 It was... It was just ominous. 358 00:17:29,465 --> 00:17:32,801 And, um, there wasn't anything there to identify. 359 00:17:35,888 --> 00:17:36,930 So... 360 00:17:39,808 --> 00:17:41,185 They didn't have faces. 361 00:17:42,895 --> 00:17:44,021 There's no clothing. 362 00:17:47,191 --> 00:17:49,526 Fire's, um, very destructive. 363 00:17:51,195 --> 00:17:52,362 It's not forgiving. 364 00:17:55,365 --> 00:17:57,367 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 365 00:18:24,061 --> 00:18:25,538 JONES: What we found in the back there 366 00:18:25,562 --> 00:18:27,397 was we found four victims. 367 00:18:27,481 --> 00:18:29,525 That's all we can comment on right now. 368 00:18:29,608 --> 00:18:31,002 REPORTER 1: Were the victims together 369 00:18:31,026 --> 00:18:33,296 or were they in different parts of the building? Can you... 370 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,656 No, I can't. Can't give you that either. 371 00:18:35,697 --> 00:18:37,324 REPORTER 2: Were they bound in any way? 372 00:18:37,366 --> 00:18:38,659 Can't give you that. 373 00:18:38,700 --> 00:18:41,054 REPORTER 2: Was there any sign of forced entry to the building? 374 00:18:41,078 --> 00:18:42,162 Can't give you that. 375 00:18:42,204 --> 00:18:43,539 REPORTER 2: What can you give? 376 00:18:43,622 --> 00:18:44,706 Just what I gave you. 377 00:18:44,790 --> 00:18:47,960 It's still very early in the investigation, okay? 378 00:18:48,043 --> 00:18:50,003 And there'll probably come a point 379 00:18:50,045 --> 00:18:53,132 that we need that information to solve this case. 380 00:18:55,008 --> 00:18:56,861 Put your hand. Hold on, put your hand right here. 381 00:18:56,885 --> 00:18:58,488 SONORA THOMAS: It's already turned on, Liz. 382 00:18:58,512 --> 00:19:01,098 Right here. I know. She puts her hands over here. And look. 383 00:19:01,181 --> 00:19:02,975 Okay. Yeah. 384 00:19:05,185 --> 00:19:06,436 SONORA: I was 13. 385 00:19:07,521 --> 00:19:10,232 I was at my dad's house. 386 00:19:10,315 --> 00:19:12,901 And then, in the middle of the night, 387 00:19:12,943 --> 00:19:15,028 there was banging on the front door. 388 00:19:15,070 --> 00:19:16,738 Give me a kiss, Sonora. 389 00:19:16,780 --> 00:19:18,448 And they didn't really know anything. 390 00:19:18,532 --> 00:19:20,242 I mean, that was like the confusing part 391 00:19:20,325 --> 00:19:21,410 about that night. 392 00:19:21,451 --> 00:19:23,078 As they came in and they were like, 393 00:19:23,787 --> 00:19:25,372 "There was a fire." 394 00:19:25,414 --> 00:19:27,416 And said something happened to Eliza. 395 00:19:29,084 --> 00:19:31,003 Yeah. It was such a confusing scene. 396 00:19:31,086 --> 00:19:32,921 I just remember... and I... My body just started 397 00:19:32,963 --> 00:19:34,673 to have this really strong reaction 398 00:19:34,756 --> 00:19:38,051 and my... my teeth just started chattering. 399 00:19:38,093 --> 00:19:40,596 Yeah. I remember at one point just putting my hand in my mouth 400 00:19:40,679 --> 00:19:43,098 to try to stop my teeth from chattering. 401 00:19:45,601 --> 00:19:47,895 My parents were divorced. 402 00:19:47,936 --> 00:19:50,314 So, at some point we had to go 403 00:19:50,397 --> 00:19:52,274 to tell my mom what was going on. 404 00:19:52,357 --> 00:19:54,443 Hi, Sonora, how are you? 405 00:19:54,526 --> 00:19:56,446 And my mom wouldn't come out of the house to talk 406 00:19:56,528 --> 00:19:57,779 to the police officer. 407 00:19:58,989 --> 00:20:01,909 I just remember my dad, you know, saying, you know, 408 00:20:01,950 --> 00:20:04,703 "Take care of your mom" and then leaving. 409 00:20:06,330 --> 00:20:08,874 My mom like, went to her room... 410 00:20:10,042 --> 00:20:12,044 and I just started cleaning the house. 411 00:20:14,296 --> 00:20:17,299 And at some point, I turned on the TV 412 00:20:17,382 --> 00:20:19,968 and this story was on the news. 413 00:20:21,261 --> 00:20:22,989 REPORTER 1: The first sign that something was wrong 414 00:20:23,013 --> 00:20:25,057 came just after midnight last night. 415 00:20:25,140 --> 00:20:26,767 That's when a passing police officer 416 00:20:26,808 --> 00:20:28,894 noticed smoke coming out of the store. 417 00:20:28,977 --> 00:20:30,646 REPORTER 2: But once the smoke cleared, 418 00:20:30,687 --> 00:20:33,482 firefighters made a grim discovery. 419 00:20:33,565 --> 00:20:36,526 They found the bodies of four young victims. 420 00:20:36,610 --> 00:20:38,445 All had been shot in the head. 421 00:20:38,487 --> 00:20:41,490 The victims are identified as Eliza Thomas... 422 00:20:41,531 --> 00:20:43,617 SONORA: And my sister's picture was on the news. 423 00:20:44,952 --> 00:20:47,412 I remember going to bed and just thinking... 424 00:20:49,665 --> 00:20:52,834 like, "I've never woken up on a day 425 00:20:52,918 --> 00:20:54,878 that my sister wasn't alive," you know. 426 00:20:56,922 --> 00:21:00,342 There's no Sonora without Eliza. There's no Eliza without Sonora. 427 00:21:01,593 --> 00:21:02,761 REPORTER 2: 17 years old 428 00:21:02,844 --> 00:21:04,680 and a student at Lanier High School. 429 00:21:04,721 --> 00:21:08,141 Jennifer Harbison, also 17 years of age 430 00:21:08,183 --> 00:21:11,520 and her 15-year-old sister, Sarah Harbison. 431 00:21:11,561 --> 00:21:14,064 Both girls were Lanier High School students. 432 00:21:14,606 --> 00:21:18,193 It was just unspeakable 433 00:21:18,277 --> 00:21:19,987 that someone did this on purpose. 434 00:21:20,988 --> 00:21:22,531 It was unspeakable. 435 00:21:22,572 --> 00:21:24,992 You know, you just have all those regrets of... 436 00:21:25,575 --> 00:21:28,161 of not protecting. 437 00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:33,375 DICK ELLIS: Home video tapes give us intimate glimpses 438 00:21:33,458 --> 00:21:35,460 of the girls and their personalities. 439 00:21:36,461 --> 00:21:39,589 Jennifer was 17. Sarah was 15. 440 00:21:41,091 --> 00:21:43,844 Jennifer's athletic claim to fame was track. 441 00:21:43,885 --> 00:21:46,096 Sarah loved the game of basketball. 442 00:21:46,179 --> 00:21:47,573 BARBARA AYRES-WILSON: These balloons here 443 00:21:47,597 --> 00:21:49,057 are from Sarah's last birthday. 444 00:21:49,141 --> 00:21:51,393 DICK: Barbara and Frank Suraci spend a lot of time 445 00:21:51,476 --> 00:21:52,602 in their daughter's rooms. 446 00:21:52,686 --> 00:21:54,062 This is Jennifer's room. 447 00:21:54,146 --> 00:21:56,273 She too was a tomboy. 448 00:21:57,524 --> 00:21:59,026 Two weeks after the murders, 449 00:21:59,067 --> 00:22:01,737 a reporter came to our house and he said, 450 00:22:01,778 --> 00:22:03,572 "You're not crying." 451 00:22:03,613 --> 00:22:05,824 And I said, "I don't have anything left." 452 00:22:07,075 --> 00:22:08,910 As a matter of fact, this is Jennifer's pin 453 00:22:08,952 --> 00:22:10,704 from the yogurt store for her uniform. 454 00:22:12,122 --> 00:22:15,834 I just get to a point that I couldn't cry a lot anymore. 455 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,421 DICK: Jennifer and Sarah shared a passion, 456 00:22:19,504 --> 00:22:21,590 F.F.A., raising sheep. 457 00:22:21,631 --> 00:22:23,425 BARBARA: They really just love those animals. 458 00:22:23,467 --> 00:22:24,760 They just love them. 459 00:22:24,801 --> 00:22:25,886 DICK: Frank and Barbara 460 00:22:25,927 --> 00:22:27,929 still do not believe their girls are gone. 461 00:22:27,971 --> 00:22:30,557 They know someday the killers will be caught. 462 00:22:30,599 --> 00:22:33,477 BARBARA: We chose to be public about this from the beginning, 463 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,396 hoping that it would help solve our case sooner. 464 00:22:36,438 --> 00:22:38,648 And so, any opportunity that we had 465 00:22:38,732 --> 00:22:42,444 to be in front of a camera at any time, 466 00:22:42,486 --> 00:22:44,529 most of us parents would do that. 467 00:22:45,989 --> 00:22:48,617 DICK: If there was ever anyone who was nearly born 468 00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:50,786 in the saddle, it was Amy Ayers. 469 00:22:50,827 --> 00:22:52,496 CROWD: (SINGING) ♪ Happy birthday... ♪ 470 00:22:52,579 --> 00:22:53,955 DICK: Amy's birthday. 471 00:22:53,997 --> 00:22:57,250 At 12, she got her cutting horse, Copy. 472 00:22:57,292 --> 00:23:00,212 Her love of animals took her to the F.F.A. 473 00:23:00,295 --> 00:23:01,797 And it was through the F.F.A. 474 00:23:01,838 --> 00:23:04,549 that she became friends with Jennifer and Sarah Harbison. 475 00:23:04,633 --> 00:23:07,028 PAM AYERS: Didn't have to worry about those two when they were together. 476 00:23:07,052 --> 00:23:09,971 We knew that they were going to be safe in what they did. 477 00:23:10,055 --> 00:23:13,141 DICK: That was until the night of December 6. 478 00:23:13,225 --> 00:23:15,477 Amy and her three best friends were... (VOICE FADES) 479 00:23:20,273 --> 00:23:22,001 SHAWN AYERS: The clearest memory I have of her 480 00:23:22,025 --> 00:23:23,693 is the first time I got to hold her. 481 00:23:23,777 --> 00:23:25,129 And I was sitting in a rocking chair, 482 00:23:25,153 --> 00:23:26,321 her on my lap. 483 00:23:26,405 --> 00:23:28,174 I remember, because I wanted a little sister so bad. 484 00:23:28,198 --> 00:23:29,491 I didn't want a little brother. 485 00:23:29,574 --> 00:23:33,370 So, when I had a little sister, I was bayonets. 486 00:23:33,453 --> 00:23:34,996 I got everything I wanted right there. 487 00:23:35,038 --> 00:23:38,208 ♪ (EMOTIONAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 488 00:23:40,836 --> 00:23:42,254 Back him a little bit there. 489 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,342 There's not one day that I do not think of her, 490 00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:49,803 or Sarah, Jennifer, or Eliza, any of them. 491 00:23:50,637 --> 00:23:57,436 (INDISTINCT ANNOUNCEMENT OVER PA) 492 00:24:06,403 --> 00:24:07,863 SHAWN: My dad's always ranched. 493 00:24:07,904 --> 00:24:10,949 We always had animals, did cowboy stuff. 494 00:24:11,032 --> 00:24:12,742 I mean, that's how I was raised. 495 00:24:14,244 --> 00:24:18,665 The best way to live or raise kids is on a ranch. 496 00:24:18,707 --> 00:24:20,876 If you're on a ranch, you've got everything you want. 497 00:24:22,085 --> 00:24:24,337 We had our own milk cows, we had a garden, 498 00:24:24,379 --> 00:24:25,589 we had our own beef. 499 00:24:26,506 --> 00:24:28,592 I'd ride a horse to the mailbox. 500 00:24:28,675 --> 00:24:30,343 It's just the little things like that. 501 00:24:33,180 --> 00:24:35,223 (BIRDS CHIRPING) 502 00:24:35,265 --> 00:24:39,561 BOB AYERS: The kids, they seen calves and horses be born, 503 00:24:39,603 --> 00:24:41,897 seen them grow up, seen them get fat, 504 00:24:41,938 --> 00:24:43,231 seen some die. 505 00:24:43,315 --> 00:24:45,734 You know, it was real life, it was real. 506 00:24:45,817 --> 00:24:47,694 ♪ (SENTIMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 507 00:24:49,237 --> 00:24:51,865 BOB: When I think of her, I think of horses. 508 00:24:53,950 --> 00:24:56,161 But ever since she was knee-high to a duck, 509 00:24:56,828 --> 00:24:57,996 she liked the horses. 510 00:25:02,334 --> 00:25:04,687 SHAWN: If you're riding a cutting horse you're riding a cutting horse. 511 00:25:04,711 --> 00:25:07,589 You're doing the same thing that the adults are doing. 512 00:25:07,631 --> 00:25:10,592 There's no "kid version" of riding cutting horses. 513 00:25:10,634 --> 00:25:12,427 It's all the same thing. 514 00:25:12,511 --> 00:25:14,596 (HORSE NEIGHS) 515 00:25:14,638 --> 00:25:16,431 BOB: A lot of times I'd be riding some colts 516 00:25:16,473 --> 00:25:19,476 and I'd be having a problem, I'd just stick her on him. 517 00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:21,454 For a couple of days, she'd ride him in the pasture, 518 00:25:21,478 --> 00:25:22,479 do this, do that. 519 00:25:22,562 --> 00:25:24,648 Come back and my problems were over. 520 00:25:24,731 --> 00:25:25,899 She just knew animals. 521 00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:30,237 PAM: She was happy. 522 00:25:30,278 --> 00:25:32,072 I mean, she could be very serious. 523 00:25:32,113 --> 00:25:33,615 She's kind of an old soul 524 00:25:33,698 --> 00:25:37,619 but she was happy and most happy around animals. 525 00:25:37,661 --> 00:25:40,580 So, when I see kids and animals together, 526 00:25:41,456 --> 00:25:42,874 it really reminds me of her. 527 00:25:45,043 --> 00:25:46,354 BOB: And after we'd moved to Austin, 528 00:25:46,378 --> 00:25:48,630 she got involved with the Junior F.F.A. 529 00:25:50,006 --> 00:25:52,467 MISSY HESTER: Future Farmers of America. 530 00:25:52,509 --> 00:25:57,097 The farm was kind of like... our, like, little getaway. 531 00:25:57,138 --> 00:25:59,224 (PIG GRUNTING) 532 00:25:59,307 --> 00:26:01,226 MISSY: After school, everybody'd go to the farm. 533 00:26:01,309 --> 00:26:03,186 We'd raise animals and stuff together. 534 00:26:04,020 --> 00:26:05,313 That's how I got to know 535 00:26:05,397 --> 00:26:07,774 Jennifer and Liza and Amy and all of them. 536 00:26:07,816 --> 00:26:10,986 To me, F.F.A. teaches me 537 00:26:11,069 --> 00:26:14,281 to be a better person, and, um, 538 00:26:14,322 --> 00:26:16,491 you know, to just learn more about people 539 00:26:16,575 --> 00:26:18,451 and how things work. 540 00:26:30,755 --> 00:26:32,632 ♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 541 00:26:32,674 --> 00:26:35,051 - (THUNDER RUMBLING) - (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 542 00:26:37,262 --> 00:26:40,140 SHAWN: The thing that sucks is the older I get, 543 00:26:40,181 --> 00:26:43,852 the less I can remember about her. 544 00:26:45,895 --> 00:26:48,565 And I mean, I try to remember, I don't know why it's happening. 545 00:26:49,065 --> 00:26:50,191 It bugs me. 546 00:26:50,984 --> 00:26:53,653 But it's... I mean, it's weird. 547 00:26:54,112 --> 00:26:55,155 Smile! 548 00:26:57,949 --> 00:27:00,493 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 549 00:27:08,126 --> 00:27:11,296 (BIRDS CHIRPING) 550 00:27:15,175 --> 00:27:18,887 BEVERLY LOWRY: I had written a previous book about a murder. 551 00:27:19,846 --> 00:27:25,560 And I learned to deal with extreme behavior. 552 00:27:25,602 --> 00:27:30,899 The extremities of what people are capable of. 553 00:27:30,982 --> 00:27:35,153 What a human being can do to another human being. 554 00:27:37,322 --> 00:27:39,699 MARGARET: So, we were going back to the day it happened 555 00:27:39,741 --> 00:27:42,160 and the 48 hours afterward. 556 00:27:42,243 --> 00:27:45,246 In your mind, what are the most pertinent thing 557 00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:46,956 of those first 48 hours? 558 00:27:47,874 --> 00:27:49,501 BEVERLY: Uh, I think... 559 00:27:50,669 --> 00:27:53,588 what really, if you want to get down to it, 560 00:27:53,672 --> 00:27:56,758 made this almost impossible to solve 561 00:27:57,384 --> 00:28:00,220 was the fire and the water. 562 00:28:01,888 --> 00:28:03,765 Especially the water. 563 00:28:04,307 --> 00:28:05,517 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 564 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,018 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 565 00:28:12,232 --> 00:28:14,152 MIKE HUCKABAY: When I got inside the yogurt shop, 566 00:28:14,192 --> 00:28:16,111 I was in water up to here. 567 00:28:17,028 --> 00:28:18,988 That's how much the fire had come in there. 568 00:28:20,281 --> 00:28:22,367 JONES: Turns out a lot of the firemen were kind of 569 00:28:22,450 --> 00:28:25,161 worried that they had disturbed the crime scene. 570 00:28:26,079 --> 00:28:28,206 You know, there was soot everywhere. 571 00:28:28,289 --> 00:28:31,793 So much of the evidence was probably contaminated. 572 00:28:33,670 --> 00:28:36,798 So, taking fingerprints was kind of pointless, 573 00:28:37,507 --> 00:28:38,633 although we tried. 574 00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:43,638 We found the key left in the front door, 575 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,765 but that was apparently part of the process 576 00:28:45,807 --> 00:28:48,143 of when they got ready to close, 577 00:28:48,184 --> 00:28:50,103 to put the key in the front door. 578 00:28:50,145 --> 00:28:52,605 We went through the whole procedure 579 00:28:52,647 --> 00:28:54,441 front to back. 580 00:28:54,482 --> 00:28:56,818 First of all, if there was some customers in the store, 581 00:28:56,901 --> 00:28:58,611 you'd lock the door and they would sit 582 00:28:58,653 --> 00:28:59,988 and usually finish. 583 00:29:00,029 --> 00:29:01,656 There were some people that would stay 584 00:29:01,698 --> 00:29:03,408 and I know that there was regulars 585 00:29:03,491 --> 00:29:05,577 that they knew or felt comfortable with. 586 00:29:06,578 --> 00:29:07,620 We had a radio 587 00:29:07,662 --> 00:29:10,123 and they would dance in the back and giggle, 588 00:29:10,165 --> 00:29:12,876 and they were always smiling, always happy. 589 00:29:14,043 --> 00:29:17,088 It was a job, but I don't know that it was work to them. 590 00:29:19,507 --> 00:29:20,800 They had a set order. 591 00:29:22,135 --> 00:29:24,095 I do believe the toppings were put away. 592 00:29:26,306 --> 00:29:28,057 Machines were cleaned, 593 00:29:28,141 --> 00:29:31,519 but the gaskets weren't put back on. 594 00:29:31,561 --> 00:29:34,314 I think there was a bucket still sitting there on a ladder. 595 00:29:35,982 --> 00:29:37,901 There was still water in the sink 596 00:29:37,984 --> 00:29:40,153 where they were washing the topping ladles. 597 00:29:41,738 --> 00:29:44,324 My guess is they were close to being finished. 598 00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:46,910 But they had extra help. 599 00:29:46,993 --> 00:29:49,704 The other two girls, I'm sure, were put to work. 600 00:29:49,746 --> 00:29:52,874 BEVERLY: Earlier that night, Sarah and Amy, 601 00:29:52,916 --> 00:29:54,209 the two younger girls, 602 00:29:54,292 --> 00:29:57,504 had been walking around Northcross Mall. 603 00:29:57,545 --> 00:30:00,215 Jennifer picked them up when the mall closed 604 00:30:00,298 --> 00:30:02,717 and took them to the yogurt shop. 605 00:30:02,801 --> 00:30:05,553 Northcross Mall is blocks from the yogurt shop. 606 00:30:05,595 --> 00:30:07,096 I mean, it's walking distance, really. 607 00:30:07,180 --> 00:30:08,473 But, you know, 608 00:30:08,556 --> 00:30:10,558 safe side, she went and picked them up, 609 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,894 brought them back, ordered pizza, 610 00:30:12,977 --> 00:30:15,897 and they may have been in the back 611 00:30:15,939 --> 00:30:20,902 helping clean up when the intruders came. 612 00:30:23,613 --> 00:30:27,700 We surmised the yogurt shop case was a robbery gone bad. 613 00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:32,705 That it went sideways because the bad guys, 614 00:30:32,747 --> 00:30:33,957 however many there were, 615 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,042 weren't aware that there were two more girls 616 00:30:36,084 --> 00:30:37,544 in the back of the store. 617 00:30:37,585 --> 00:30:40,880 So, they'd been casing it even for a short period of time, 618 00:30:40,922 --> 00:30:43,883 all they would have seen was the two girls out front. 619 00:30:44,717 --> 00:30:46,761 So, they were up against four. 620 00:30:46,803 --> 00:30:49,931 Four F.F.A. girls on top of that. 621 00:30:50,014 --> 00:30:51,891 Who knows what all happened in there, 622 00:30:51,933 --> 00:30:53,768 but it didn't take long. 623 00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:57,397 JONES: Maybe they were in there 20, 25 minutes. 624 00:30:57,438 --> 00:31:00,984 And then it would have probably taken another 15 minutes 625 00:31:01,067 --> 00:31:03,611 for the fire to build up to the point 626 00:31:03,695 --> 00:31:06,281 to where it was noticeable to the guy next door 627 00:31:06,364 --> 00:31:07,532 in the party shop. 628 00:31:09,033 --> 00:31:11,369 I think the girls tried to get out the front door, 629 00:31:11,953 --> 00:31:13,246 and took off running. 630 00:31:13,288 --> 00:31:17,709 And they stopped them, took them back in the back, 631 00:31:17,792 --> 00:31:19,478 And thought, "You're going to call the cops?" 632 00:31:19,502 --> 00:31:21,045 So they kill 'em. 633 00:31:22,088 --> 00:31:24,299 And then the fire was started. 634 00:31:24,340 --> 00:31:26,342 ♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 635 00:31:27,427 --> 00:31:29,929 JONES: The bodies were in two locations. 636 00:31:29,971 --> 00:31:32,307 The three girls were stacked near the back door. 637 00:31:32,390 --> 00:31:34,851 And then the fourth one, which was Amy, 638 00:31:34,934 --> 00:31:38,021 was ten, 13 feet away from the others. 639 00:31:39,647 --> 00:31:43,401 HUCKABAY: All four girls were tied with their own underwear, 640 00:31:43,484 --> 00:31:44,694 brassieres... 641 00:31:46,571 --> 00:31:48,448 and was shot in the back of the head 642 00:31:48,489 --> 00:31:50,408 with a .22 caliber pistol. 643 00:31:56,039 --> 00:32:00,126 JONES: There were two guns used, a .22 and a .380. 644 00:32:01,377 --> 00:32:05,006 The .22, the round is small and soft 645 00:32:05,089 --> 00:32:09,802 and it's just about impossible to get ballistics off a .22. 646 00:32:09,844 --> 00:32:14,974 The .380 round that had been used on Amy, found it in a drain 647 00:32:15,975 --> 00:32:18,853 and it was perfectly preserved. 648 00:32:18,895 --> 00:32:22,398 The lands and grooves told us exactly what kind of gun it was. 649 00:32:24,525 --> 00:32:26,527 We knew what we were looking for exactly. 650 00:32:29,238 --> 00:32:34,953 ♪ ("IT'S THE MOST WONDERFUL TIME OF THE YEAR" BY ANDY WILLIAMS PLAYING) ♪ 651 00:32:36,412 --> 00:32:39,499 Northcross Mall was really beautiful 652 00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:41,167 and big and fun. 653 00:32:41,209 --> 00:32:43,378 There was an ice-skating rink. 654 00:32:43,419 --> 00:32:47,840 Christmas decorations were out and Santa Claus around. 655 00:32:47,882 --> 00:32:51,636 The movie theaters showed The Rocky Horror Show 656 00:32:51,719 --> 00:32:54,013 and they did these dramas where they acted out 657 00:32:54,055 --> 00:32:55,848 the parts at midnight. 658 00:32:59,227 --> 00:33:01,270 That's where kids went to hang out, 659 00:33:01,354 --> 00:33:04,774 to walk around, not so much to buy anything. 660 00:33:05,692 --> 00:33:08,111 ♪ (EERIE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 661 00:33:08,194 --> 00:33:11,406 BEVERLY: A week after the yogurt shop murders, 662 00:33:12,448 --> 00:33:16,494 a boy named Maurice Pierce decides 663 00:33:16,577 --> 00:33:18,121 to go to Northcross Mall, 664 00:33:18,204 --> 00:33:21,416 the same mall that Sarah and Amy had been 665 00:33:21,457 --> 00:33:23,376 in the previous week, 666 00:33:23,418 --> 00:33:27,422 and walk around with a gun, a pistol, 667 00:33:27,463 --> 00:33:29,173 in the waistband of his jeans. 668 00:33:30,258 --> 00:33:31,300 And it was loaded, 669 00:33:31,384 --> 00:33:33,594 and he had bullets in his pocket. 670 00:33:36,055 --> 00:33:40,101 His young disciple, Forrest Welborn 671 00:33:40,143 --> 00:33:43,855 just adored Maurice and would do pretty much 672 00:33:43,938 --> 00:33:46,149 whatever he could do to be in his presence 673 00:33:46,232 --> 00:33:47,942 because he was magnetic, Maurice. 674 00:33:49,193 --> 00:33:53,322 And they were walking around the mall with this gun. 675 00:33:54,907 --> 00:33:56,075 JONES: Maurice got arrested 676 00:33:56,117 --> 00:33:58,870 with a .22 pistol at Northcross Mall 677 00:33:58,953 --> 00:34:01,205 which was two blocks away from the yogurt shop. 678 00:34:02,415 --> 00:34:05,084 We'd put out that we were looking for a .22 and a .380. 679 00:34:05,877 --> 00:34:08,254 So, I get a young kid over there 680 00:34:08,295 --> 00:34:10,797 who's got a .22 pistol and is two blocks away. 681 00:34:12,717 --> 00:34:14,761 BEVERLY: They took him and he was questioned 682 00:34:14,802 --> 00:34:18,139 by a cop named Hector Polanco. 683 00:34:19,223 --> 00:34:21,476 DICK: A homicide investigator for five years, 684 00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:24,603 Polanco has never had a murder case go unsolved. 685 00:34:24,645 --> 00:34:25,855 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 686 00:34:28,357 --> 00:34:29,501 JONES: Hector interviewed him 687 00:34:29,525 --> 00:34:32,152 for three or four hours, I guess, 688 00:34:32,235 --> 00:34:36,199 before he called us in and we came in. 689 00:34:36,282 --> 00:34:39,327 I just took down what he said and I'd stop every now and then 690 00:34:39,409 --> 00:34:41,079 and ask him to clarify stuff. 691 00:34:42,371 --> 00:34:44,165 "My name is Maurice Earl Pierce, 692 00:34:44,248 --> 00:34:46,167 I'm 16 years old. 693 00:34:46,208 --> 00:34:47,835 I am at the Austin Police Department 694 00:34:47,918 --> 00:34:50,004 giving this statement to Sergeant J. Jones 695 00:34:50,088 --> 00:34:51,505 concerning what I know about 696 00:34:51,547 --> 00:34:53,674 the I Can't Believe It's Yogurt murders 697 00:34:53,716 --> 00:34:55,635 last Friday night." 698 00:34:55,676 --> 00:34:59,514 "I picked up Forrest Wellborn from McCallum High School. 699 00:34:59,555 --> 00:35:03,392 We rode around for a while, went to my house. 700 00:35:03,476 --> 00:35:05,603 Forrest said, "Let's get the gun." 701 00:35:05,686 --> 00:35:08,856 So I took it out of my closet where I kept it, 702 00:35:08,898 --> 00:35:11,359 and he put it in the glove box. 703 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,320 Forrest and I went up to Northcross Mall. 704 00:35:14,362 --> 00:35:16,447 Forrest got out of the car with the gun. 705 00:35:17,615 --> 00:35:18,699 I went to the bathroom, 706 00:35:18,783 --> 00:35:20,493 and Forrest went somewhere else. 707 00:35:20,993 --> 00:35:22,495 We split up. 708 00:35:22,537 --> 00:35:25,039 So about 10:45, I just went 709 00:35:25,123 --> 00:35:27,792 and sat out in the car waiting for him. 710 00:35:27,875 --> 00:35:30,878 Forrest showed up at my car at about 11:30. 711 00:35:30,962 --> 00:35:33,714 He got in the car and handed me the gun, 712 00:35:33,756 --> 00:35:35,258 then said, 'I did something.' 713 00:35:36,467 --> 00:35:37,927 I said, 'Like what?' 714 00:35:38,928 --> 00:35:40,221 But he never did answer." 715 00:35:41,931 --> 00:35:45,226 BEVERLY: So Maurice gave up Forrest Welborn 716 00:35:45,309 --> 00:35:48,354 and said Forrest had borrowed his gun 717 00:35:48,396 --> 00:35:51,023 and had disappeared for a while 718 00:35:51,065 --> 00:35:55,236 and come back sweaty and the gun had been fired 719 00:35:55,319 --> 00:35:57,738 and he was smelling of hairspray... 720 00:35:57,822 --> 00:35:59,282 (CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING) 721 00:35:59,365 --> 00:36:04,245 which Maurice explained as a way to start a fire, 722 00:36:04,287 --> 00:36:06,747 to spray hairspray and throw a match in it. 723 00:36:07,790 --> 00:36:11,252 When asked who else was with him that night, 724 00:36:11,335 --> 00:36:14,755 Maurice said, "Rob Springsteen... 725 00:36:16,424 --> 00:36:17,550 and Michael Scott." 726 00:36:19,677 --> 00:36:21,179 JONES: "Forrest and I left the mall. 727 00:36:21,846 --> 00:36:24,307 We met Rob Springsteen and Mike. 728 00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:26,392 Then we went riding around, 729 00:36:26,434 --> 00:36:28,769 went up to the trails and shot the gun off 730 00:36:28,853 --> 00:36:31,272 because Mike and Rob said they wanted to." 731 00:36:31,355 --> 00:36:32,607 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 732 00:36:32,648 --> 00:36:36,110 BEVERLY: Michael Scott and Rob Springsteen. 733 00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:37,778 They were layabouts. 734 00:36:37,820 --> 00:36:39,280 They'd drank a lot of beer, 735 00:36:39,322 --> 00:36:42,241 smoked weed, like a lot of kids their age. 736 00:36:42,283 --> 00:36:43,868 They were looking for trouble. 737 00:36:45,411 --> 00:36:50,416 The day after the murders, those four guys stole a car 738 00:36:50,458 --> 00:36:54,295 and went to San Antonio to visit a girlfriend. 739 00:36:54,378 --> 00:36:57,632 JONES: "Forrest and I saw a goldish tan colored Pathfinder 740 00:36:57,715 --> 00:36:59,467 with keys in it. 741 00:36:59,508 --> 00:37:01,802 We took it and went and picked up Rob 742 00:37:01,886 --> 00:37:04,472 and Mike and went driving." 743 00:37:04,513 --> 00:37:07,350 HUCKABAY: They stole a car and went to San Antone. 744 00:37:07,433 --> 00:37:10,436 And they drove around and did stupid stuff 745 00:37:10,478 --> 00:37:13,105 and then came back, parked that stolen car 746 00:37:13,147 --> 00:37:14,607 where they had gotten it from. 747 00:37:15,775 --> 00:37:16,960 JONES: "When we got back to Austin, 748 00:37:16,984 --> 00:37:20,446 I dropped Rob and Mike at Rob's house. 749 00:37:20,488 --> 00:37:22,949 Forrest asked me if he could borrow the gun. 750 00:37:22,990 --> 00:37:26,160 I told him no. I asked him why. 751 00:37:26,202 --> 00:37:29,580 He said because 'I want to go do what I did last night, 752 00:37:30,456 --> 00:37:32,124 go kill some more girls.'" 753 00:37:48,391 --> 00:37:50,851 Later the next day, we wired him up 754 00:37:50,935 --> 00:37:52,311 and sent him out to Forrest. 755 00:37:59,944 --> 00:38:01,171 JONES: And we listened to that. 756 00:38:01,195 --> 00:38:03,114 We were following him on the wire. 757 00:39:32,745 --> 00:39:34,163 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 758 00:39:35,081 --> 00:39:37,416 He was trying to lead Forrest along 759 00:39:37,458 --> 00:39:39,877 and Forrest had no idea what he was talking about. 760 00:39:42,129 --> 00:39:44,590 And we got Forrest in to interview him. Uh... 761 00:39:44,632 --> 00:39:47,635 Forrest, he couldn't organize a two-car parade. 762 00:39:47,676 --> 00:39:49,637 I mean, he just... 763 00:39:49,678 --> 00:39:53,140 you know, he couldn't have held it in. 764 00:39:53,224 --> 00:39:55,226 You know, we had Sergeant Polanco 765 00:39:55,309 --> 00:39:57,478 and two other homicide investigators 766 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:58,813 that had been there a while. 767 00:39:59,355 --> 00:40:00,856 They knew interrogation. 768 00:40:02,775 --> 00:40:05,361 So, could they have done it? Yeah, they could have. 769 00:40:06,612 --> 00:40:08,155 Did they? I don't know. 770 00:40:08,197 --> 00:40:10,449 Where's the... Where's the evidence? 771 00:40:12,284 --> 00:40:13,285 ♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 772 00:40:13,327 --> 00:40:14,620 You get to a point... 773 00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:19,291 where your inner body, soul, 774 00:40:19,333 --> 00:40:23,129 and all that comes up and says, "This is the guy." 775 00:40:24,296 --> 00:40:25,339 I felt that. 776 00:40:26,757 --> 00:40:30,344 Just the way he acted and reacted and all this... 777 00:40:32,513 --> 00:40:33,848 "Something here, Huck." 778 00:40:35,391 --> 00:40:36,809 But I had to prove it. 779 00:40:37,852 --> 00:40:39,728 You have to get a written confession 780 00:40:39,812 --> 00:40:43,023 signed by the guy to get him indicted, you know. 781 00:40:43,065 --> 00:40:44,358 If you don't have a confession, 782 00:40:44,442 --> 00:40:46,527 then you better have a bunch of good evidence 783 00:40:46,569 --> 00:40:48,362 to prove that he did it. 784 00:40:48,446 --> 00:40:49,947 Well, we didn't have that. 785 00:40:50,030 --> 00:40:52,032 We didn't have anything to prove, you know. 786 00:40:52,116 --> 00:40:54,034 I mean, we had no fingerprints. 787 00:40:54,952 --> 00:40:55,953 Uh... 788 00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:00,040 ♪ (INTRIGUING TUNE PLAYING) ♪ 789 00:41:02,126 --> 00:41:03,419 (RAIN PATTERING) 790 00:41:07,173 --> 00:41:08,549 ♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 791 00:41:08,632 --> 00:41:10,509 LARRY BRILL: Good morning. It's ten o'clock. 792 00:41:10,551 --> 00:41:12,511 I'm Larry Brill. The families of four girls 793 00:41:12,553 --> 00:41:13,762 murdered earlier this month 794 00:41:13,846 --> 00:41:15,389 at a yogurt store are making a plea 795 00:41:15,473 --> 00:41:16,891 for help this morning. 796 00:41:16,932 --> 00:41:19,059 The investigation has been moving along slowly, 797 00:41:19,101 --> 00:41:21,937 but police and the families need help to catch the killers. 798 00:41:22,730 --> 00:41:25,316 We are the parents and step-parents 799 00:41:26,108 --> 00:41:28,777 of the four young teenage girls 800 00:41:29,778 --> 00:41:33,741 brutally slain at the North Austin yogurt shop. 801 00:41:34,492 --> 00:41:37,703 On December 6, 1991. 802 00:41:38,996 --> 00:41:41,081 We've been told that the community 803 00:41:41,165 --> 00:41:43,459 is looking to us for leadership 804 00:41:43,542 --> 00:41:46,712 and advice on ways to handle this tragedy 805 00:41:47,338 --> 00:41:49,048 and what to do. 806 00:41:49,089 --> 00:41:52,218 The families are still having good days mixed with bad, 807 00:41:53,135 --> 00:41:54,220 so are the police. 808 00:41:54,261 --> 00:41:56,263 Under the close scrutiny of an angry 809 00:41:56,347 --> 00:41:57,431 and impatient public, 810 00:41:57,473 --> 00:41:59,600 investigators have been going full throttle now 811 00:41:59,642 --> 00:42:01,018 to turn up any new clues 812 00:42:01,101 --> 00:42:02,895 as to who might have killed the four girls. 813 00:42:04,647 --> 00:42:06,899 There's a lot of things that we did 814 00:42:06,941 --> 00:42:09,610 in this case that hadn't been done before. 815 00:42:09,693 --> 00:42:12,738 We sent undercover guys to the funerals 816 00:42:12,780 --> 00:42:15,115 and had it mic'd up just in case somebody 817 00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:16,825 showed up to apologize. 818 00:42:17,826 --> 00:42:20,454 We pulled every ticket that was written 819 00:42:20,496 --> 00:42:22,414 in that part of town, 820 00:42:22,456 --> 00:42:25,251 we called two or three times for all of the customers 821 00:42:25,292 --> 00:42:27,461 that had been in the yogurt shop. 822 00:42:27,503 --> 00:42:30,506 Without video evidence, we're depending on people 823 00:42:30,589 --> 00:42:33,300 answering the call through the media. 824 00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:35,111 It's just going to take the right phone call, 825 00:42:35,135 --> 00:42:36,887 the right little piece of information. 826 00:42:37,930 --> 00:42:40,307 The ones that use credit cards, we knew. 827 00:42:40,391 --> 00:42:43,852 But we got quite a few in that had used cash. 828 00:42:43,936 --> 00:42:45,521 Everybody wanted to help. 829 00:42:45,604 --> 00:42:47,773 Customers and friends of the victim have told us 830 00:42:47,815 --> 00:42:50,234 about what they consider 831 00:42:50,317 --> 00:42:52,653 to be suspicious people going in and out 832 00:42:52,736 --> 00:42:53,779 of the restaurant. 833 00:42:53,821 --> 00:42:55,507 Something else we did in the yogurt shop case, 834 00:42:55,531 --> 00:43:00,244 we hypnotized everybody that was in the shop. 835 00:43:00,327 --> 00:43:03,706 Maybe they had seen something the night they were in there 836 00:43:03,789 --> 00:43:06,292 that looked fairly unusual. 837 00:43:06,333 --> 00:43:08,961 That's how we got composites from several of them, 838 00:43:09,003 --> 00:43:10,713 is we put them under hypnosis. 839 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,632 Police are expected to release part 840 00:43:13,674 --> 00:43:15,801 of an in-depth psychological profile 841 00:43:15,843 --> 00:43:18,554 developed last week with help from the FBI. 842 00:43:18,637 --> 00:43:21,098 POLICE SPOKESPERSON: The assessment of the ICBY murders 843 00:43:21,181 --> 00:43:22,558 are as follows. 844 00:43:22,641 --> 00:43:24,184 Although the race of the offenders 845 00:43:24,226 --> 00:43:26,854 in this case is difficult to determine, 846 00:43:26,937 --> 00:43:29,189 it is probable that the killers are White. 847 00:43:30,107 --> 00:43:32,192 Although other races cannot be eliminated 848 00:43:32,234 --> 00:43:34,361 on this basis alone due to the fact 849 00:43:34,445 --> 00:43:38,449 that other races do frequent this commercialized area. 850 00:43:38,532 --> 00:43:41,994 The age of the offenders is also difficult to establish 851 00:43:42,036 --> 00:43:44,580 but in all probability, they are in their late teens 852 00:43:44,663 --> 00:43:45,873 to mid-20s. 853 00:43:45,956 --> 00:43:48,125 Likely unemployed or in a menial job 854 00:43:48,208 --> 00:43:50,127 not requiring contact with the public, 855 00:43:50,210 --> 00:43:52,755 and likely we're dealing with residents of the area. 856 00:43:52,838 --> 00:43:54,548 NEWS ANCHOR: One has a dominant personality 857 00:43:54,632 --> 00:43:56,216 and manipulates the weaker ones 858 00:43:56,258 --> 00:44:00,137 by forcing them to participate in some aspect of the crime. 859 00:44:00,220 --> 00:44:01,680 Police believe at least one of them 860 00:44:01,722 --> 00:44:03,057 has told someone else 861 00:44:03,140 --> 00:44:06,226 and they're hoping this person will come forward. 862 00:44:06,268 --> 00:44:09,063 You have a person out there who wasn't there, who knows. 863 00:44:09,146 --> 00:44:12,733 He's standing there every day looking at a murderer 864 00:44:12,775 --> 00:44:14,860 who up to this point is getting away with it. 865 00:44:16,445 --> 00:44:19,865 The police need additional eyes and ears. 866 00:44:21,033 --> 00:44:23,410 If you think you have something to report, 867 00:44:23,452 --> 00:44:26,372 however seemingly insignificant, 868 00:44:26,413 --> 00:44:29,041 your tip may earn you a substantial reward. 869 00:44:30,542 --> 00:44:32,812 NEWS ANCHOR 2: A daycare group that two of the murdered girls 870 00:44:32,836 --> 00:44:34,755 attended when they were in preschool, 871 00:44:34,797 --> 00:44:36,340 called Child Inc., 872 00:44:36,423 --> 00:44:39,093 called for a community effort in solving the crime. 873 00:44:39,134 --> 00:44:41,237 NEWS ANCHOR 3: Telephone companies paid to put billboards 874 00:44:41,261 --> 00:44:43,931 on more than 40 taxi cabs in Austin this week. 875 00:44:44,014 --> 00:44:45,974 HUCKABAY: Any information that anyone has 876 00:44:46,058 --> 00:44:48,060 that they think might be remotely helpful 877 00:44:48,102 --> 00:44:49,269 needs to be called in. 878 00:44:53,399 --> 00:44:54,709 BARBARA: We want those pictures up. 879 00:44:54,733 --> 00:44:55,901 We want people to know 880 00:44:55,943 --> 00:44:57,903 that these beautiful girls were alive, 881 00:44:57,945 --> 00:44:59,405 a part of this city, 882 00:44:59,446 --> 00:45:01,115 and we don't want anyone to forget 883 00:45:01,198 --> 00:45:03,826 that they lived, they were here, and they were murdered. 884 00:45:03,909 --> 00:45:05,679 Whoever did this is going to have to be caught, 885 00:45:05,703 --> 00:45:08,122 and they're gonna have to be brought to justice. 886 00:45:09,832 --> 00:45:12,459 SONORA: I always want someone watching me... 887 00:45:12,501 --> 00:45:15,754 because I know Eliza was my sister and my best friend. 888 00:45:17,673 --> 00:45:20,801 And half of me died when I heard the news. 889 00:45:20,884 --> 00:45:22,469 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 890 00:45:27,766 --> 00:45:29,852 There's somebody working around the clock on it. 891 00:45:29,935 --> 00:45:32,896 Uh, we're getting numerous calls still. 892 00:45:33,355 --> 00:45:35,149 And, you know, 893 00:45:35,232 --> 00:45:38,777 a lot of the information is just not any good. 894 00:45:38,819 --> 00:45:40,821 But we never know which piece 895 00:45:40,863 --> 00:45:42,406 of information is going to be the piece 896 00:45:42,489 --> 00:45:44,324 that we need to solve the puzzle. 897 00:45:45,617 --> 00:45:47,661 JONES: How close we were to the families, 898 00:45:47,703 --> 00:45:50,414 that's something else we did that was pretty unique. 899 00:45:50,497 --> 00:45:53,167 They were pretty much a part of the investigation, 900 00:45:53,250 --> 00:45:54,960 I mean, they could come and go. 901 00:45:55,002 --> 00:45:56,837 They kind of walked in a couple times 902 00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,841 when we were jacking up some suspects, but, you know. 903 00:46:00,924 --> 00:46:04,511 John Jones and Mike Huckabay, they came to our house a lot. 904 00:46:04,595 --> 00:46:06,513 Of course, Mike Huckabay wore boots. 905 00:46:06,555 --> 00:46:08,640 He was kind of the cowboy 906 00:46:08,682 --> 00:46:10,976 of the police department. We... We got along. 907 00:46:11,435 --> 00:46:12,895 Bob liked me. 908 00:46:12,978 --> 00:46:15,189 I'm not really a cowboy, but I, you know, 909 00:46:15,230 --> 00:46:16,482 do a lot of cowboy stuff, 910 00:46:16,523 --> 00:46:18,525 rodeos and stuff like that. 911 00:46:18,609 --> 00:46:20,444 We just sort of connected there. 912 00:46:21,570 --> 00:46:26,200 I didn't want to get real close, but it's hard not to. 913 00:46:26,241 --> 00:46:29,661 They would give us some tidbits or keep us up to date. 914 00:46:29,703 --> 00:46:31,997 You could see the stress on them, stress on us. 915 00:46:33,707 --> 00:46:35,042 I had full faith in them. 916 00:46:39,338 --> 00:46:40,756 ♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 917 00:46:40,839 --> 00:46:42,841 DAN RATHER: Two months after the murders, 918 00:46:42,883 --> 00:46:45,302 members of the community came together 919 00:46:45,385 --> 00:46:48,889 to try and keep alive the memory of the four teenagers. 920 00:46:48,972 --> 00:46:51,892 ORGANIZER: Now the families over here, okay? 921 00:46:51,975 --> 00:46:56,021 A couple of Austin composers wrote a song. 922 00:46:56,647 --> 00:46:57,898 "We Will Not Forget." 923 00:46:57,981 --> 00:46:59,691 Y'all you ready to do one now? 924 00:46:59,733 --> 00:47:01,235 ♪ (EMOTIONAL POWER BALLAD PLAYING) ♪ 925 00:47:01,318 --> 00:47:03,987 ♪ I watch you lying there ♪ 926 00:47:05,322 --> 00:47:07,783 ♪ You have my eyes and hair ♪ 927 00:47:07,866 --> 00:47:11,411 ♪ I love your laughs, Your coos and sighs ♪ 928 00:47:11,495 --> 00:47:13,872 ♪ The answer to my prayer ♪ 929 00:47:14,706 --> 00:47:21,255 ♪ We will not forget ♪ 930 00:47:21,338 --> 00:47:26,969 ♪ Time we had to share ♪ 931 00:47:27,886 --> 00:47:34,434 ♪ We will not forget ♪ 932 00:47:34,476 --> 00:47:41,233 ♪ Dreams you'll never dare ♪ 933 00:47:41,275 --> 00:47:44,152 ♪ We will not forget... ♪ 934 00:47:44,236 --> 00:47:47,614 REPORTER: Several hundred people showed up to remember the girls. 935 00:47:47,698 --> 00:47:49,283 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 936 00:47:49,366 --> 00:47:51,910 REPORTER: Some spent their time quietly reflecting, 937 00:47:51,952 --> 00:47:55,289 others reminiscing about the good times they'd had. 938 00:47:55,372 --> 00:47:58,458 We had walked together every day after first period. 939 00:47:58,500 --> 00:47:59,793 We'd just sit there talking. 940 00:47:59,835 --> 00:48:01,378 Just me and her we went down the hall. 941 00:48:01,461 --> 00:48:02,921 It helps to know that there... 942 00:48:04,006 --> 00:48:06,466 are more people than just you going through 943 00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:07,718 the exact same thing 944 00:48:07,801 --> 00:48:09,553 and feeling the exact same thing. 945 00:48:09,636 --> 00:48:11,013 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 946 00:48:15,183 --> 00:48:16,602 BARBARA: This is real painful stuff. 947 00:48:16,643 --> 00:48:18,437 So, I really work hard to get back 948 00:48:18,478 --> 00:48:21,189 to the funny part of it, because it's just too much. 949 00:48:23,025 --> 00:48:25,444 The thing I laughed about right after the girls died 950 00:48:25,485 --> 00:48:28,322 is that Americans, the way we deal with grief, 951 00:48:28,405 --> 00:48:30,657 let's see, we had T-shirts, we had coffee mugs, 952 00:48:30,699 --> 00:48:32,117 we had buttons, we had pins. 953 00:48:32,159 --> 00:48:35,162 We have to make... We have to make a marketing opportunity 954 00:48:35,203 --> 00:48:36,330 out of everything. 955 00:48:36,413 --> 00:48:40,000 So, we did. We sure did. We did all that, too. 956 00:48:40,584 --> 00:48:42,961 So, uh, isn't that funny? 957 00:48:44,087 --> 00:48:45,422 It's got their names on it. 958 00:48:53,013 --> 00:48:54,848 CLAIRE: The deeper I got into it, 959 00:48:54,890 --> 00:48:57,184 the more incapable I felt 960 00:48:57,225 --> 00:48:59,144 of telling the story myself. 961 00:48:59,937 --> 00:49:02,147 This was Sarah's eighth grade. 962 00:49:02,189 --> 00:49:05,943 You can tell she has glasses and Jennifer's senior year. 963 00:49:07,486 --> 00:49:11,239 I would find myself talking about the case, 964 00:49:11,323 --> 00:49:14,534 the project that I'm working on. I'm working on this project... 965 00:49:16,745 --> 00:49:18,455 but the project's so dark. 966 00:49:19,122 --> 00:49:21,208 And I would talk about it as if 967 00:49:21,291 --> 00:49:25,003 this was, uh, like my path to professionalism. 968 00:49:28,048 --> 00:49:29,841 BARBARA: And they're both smiling. 969 00:49:29,883 --> 00:49:31,843 - CLAIRE: It's adorable. - BARBARA: Oh my gosh. 970 00:49:33,971 --> 00:49:37,891 More white sands, more memories, more life, more... 971 00:49:37,933 --> 00:49:42,729 Oh yeah, that's very, very emotional to do that, so... 972 00:49:44,356 --> 00:49:46,108 CREW MEMBER: Can we get a wide shot of you 973 00:49:46,191 --> 00:49:47,943 - looking through them? - BARBARA: Yeah. 974 00:49:49,903 --> 00:49:51,863 People always say, "Oh, I just can't imagine." 975 00:49:52,572 --> 00:49:53,657 You don't need to. 976 00:49:53,740 --> 00:49:55,909 Don't even... Don't even need to think about it. 977 00:49:55,993 --> 00:49:57,828 It's too much to think about, 978 00:49:57,911 --> 00:49:59,663 too much to carry with you forever. 979 00:49:59,746 --> 00:50:01,307 You'll have your own pain in your own way 980 00:50:01,331 --> 00:50:02,541 and your own time. 981 00:50:02,582 --> 00:50:04,626 You don't need to visit this one. (SNIFFLES) 982 00:50:05,252 --> 00:50:06,920 It's enough. 983 00:50:07,004 --> 00:50:08,213 (SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) 984 00:50:08,964 --> 00:50:10,090 (KEY CLICKS) 985 00:50:10,173 --> 00:50:13,969 CLAIRE: And then we have the sit-down interview with her. 986 00:50:14,052 --> 00:50:16,805 I don't remember it very well, but she was really open. 987 00:50:18,223 --> 00:50:20,892 Well, I guess can we start off 988 00:50:20,934 --> 00:50:22,269 by your telling us 989 00:50:22,352 --> 00:50:24,521 how your daughters were murdered? 990 00:50:24,604 --> 00:50:28,859 All right, so anyway... (LAUGHS) Um... 991 00:50:30,277 --> 00:50:34,072 I'm mortified by my own footage, 992 00:50:34,114 --> 00:50:38,994 um, which made editing it difficult. But, um... 993 00:50:39,077 --> 00:50:40,579 I think that's an insensitive way 994 00:50:40,620 --> 00:50:42,789 to start an interview. (LAUGHS) 995 00:50:42,873 --> 00:50:46,793 Um, and... what are you gonna do? 996 00:50:46,877 --> 00:50:48,628 I mean, it is what it is. 997 00:50:48,670 --> 00:50:50,922 I wanted to get to that, um... 998 00:50:52,215 --> 00:50:54,301 that moment where... 999 00:50:55,844 --> 00:50:56,845 you... 1000 00:50:58,221 --> 00:51:04,061 are sensitive to the terror that the girls faced. 1001 00:51:04,478 --> 00:51:05,812 And I know 1002 00:51:05,896 --> 00:51:07,898 that the families have thought about that. 1003 00:51:07,981 --> 00:51:11,234 So, I asked the question, but it sounds insensitive. 1004 00:51:12,736 --> 00:51:14,362 We can see how she responds. 1005 00:51:16,656 --> 00:51:18,492 Well, I guess, um... 1006 00:51:18,533 --> 00:51:20,911 Well, I guess, can we start off by your telling us 1007 00:51:20,994 --> 00:51:22,370 how your daughters were murdered? 1008 00:51:23,205 --> 00:51:25,248 (CHUCKLES) Um... 1009 00:51:25,916 --> 00:51:27,959 Yeah, uh... 1010 00:51:28,001 --> 00:51:31,588 December 6 was a Friday 1011 00:51:31,671 --> 00:51:33,632 and... and I was at work 1012 00:51:33,673 --> 00:51:35,592 and I talked to the girls on the phone 1013 00:51:35,675 --> 00:51:38,345 and I told them I was getting off early that day. 1014 00:51:38,428 --> 00:51:40,597 And so, I was supposed to get off 1015 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,683 at 4:30, and when I came home, 1016 00:51:43,767 --> 00:51:44,935 I was actually... 1017 00:51:45,018 --> 00:51:46,520 Actually it was 5:30 when I got home, 1018 00:51:46,561 --> 00:51:48,855 so Sarah was sitting on the couch 1019 00:51:48,897 --> 00:51:50,774 and she was peeling an orange 1020 00:51:50,857 --> 00:51:53,318 and, uh, Jennifer wasn't... 1021 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,694 I asked her where her sister was. 1022 00:51:54,736 --> 00:51:56,488 She said, "She's over at Sam's." 1023 00:51:56,530 --> 00:51:59,032 That was her boyfriend, that was Jennifer's boyfriend. 1024 00:51:59,116 --> 00:52:01,409 And they had taken him home from school. 1025 00:52:02,327 --> 00:52:03,870 And... But Sarah was... 1026 00:52:03,954 --> 00:52:05,765 She said to me, she said, "I'm going out tonight." 1027 00:52:05,789 --> 00:52:07,124 And I said, "Oh, you are?" 1028 00:52:08,166 --> 00:52:09,519 Interesting that she was telling me 1029 00:52:09,543 --> 00:52:13,046 what she was going to do and, uh, before she asked. 1030 00:52:13,088 --> 00:52:15,340 And so, yeah, she said, "I am... 1031 00:52:15,382 --> 00:52:18,009 We're going to the mall. 1032 00:52:18,051 --> 00:52:20,279 Amy's going to spend the night. We're going to the mall." 1033 00:52:20,303 --> 00:52:23,265 I said, "Okay." And so, uh... 1034 00:52:23,348 --> 00:52:25,350 Anyway, just... she was in such a good mood. 1035 00:52:25,392 --> 00:52:27,060 She was in such a good mood. 1036 00:52:27,102 --> 00:52:29,729 That's the thing I remember the most about the last... 1037 00:52:29,813 --> 00:52:31,022 That last evening. 1038 00:52:31,064 --> 00:52:32,607 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1039 00:52:36,278 --> 00:52:38,131 BARBARA: Jennifer was going to work at the yogurt shop 1040 00:52:38,155 --> 00:52:40,240 that night and I was so tired 1041 00:52:40,282 --> 00:52:41,741 because my boss had been on vacation 1042 00:52:41,825 --> 00:52:43,451 and Sarah wanted me to take her and Amy 1043 00:52:43,535 --> 00:52:44,578 to the mall 1044 00:52:44,661 --> 00:52:46,180 so they could do some Christmas shopping 1045 00:52:46,204 --> 00:52:47,747 or whatever they were doing. 1046 00:52:47,789 --> 00:52:51,376 And I said, "Oh, man, I just don't feel like it." 1047 00:52:51,418 --> 00:52:53,003 So, Jennifer, 1048 00:52:53,086 --> 00:52:58,425 uh, I convinced Jennifer to take Sarah with her 1049 00:52:58,466 --> 00:53:00,677 and to go pick up Amy before... on her way 1050 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,155 to work and drop them both at the mall, 1051 00:53:02,179 --> 00:53:04,139 which was just a block or two 1052 00:53:04,222 --> 00:53:06,391 over from the yogurt store itself. 1053 00:53:06,433 --> 00:53:10,228 And, uh, so... I walked them out 1054 00:53:10,270 --> 00:53:11,539 to the car and they were getting, 1055 00:53:11,563 --> 00:53:13,481 you know, getting all their stuff together. 1056 00:53:13,565 --> 00:53:17,569 And, you know, I got a hug from both of them. 1057 00:53:17,611 --> 00:53:19,112 Of course, I told them I loved them 1058 00:53:19,154 --> 00:53:22,449 and got to do that last 1059 00:53:22,532 --> 00:53:27,120 "Y'all be careful, I'll see you and I'll talk to you later. 1060 00:53:27,162 --> 00:53:29,748 Y'all be careful." And off they went 1061 00:53:29,789 --> 00:53:31,875 and that was the last time I saw them. 1062 00:53:31,958 --> 00:53:34,085 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC SWELLING) ♪ 1063 00:53:37,380 --> 00:53:39,192 BARBARA: My husband and I were at the house that night, 1064 00:53:39,216 --> 00:53:40,634 and he was watching TV 1065 00:53:40,675 --> 00:53:43,511 and they had a special on Pearl Harbor. 1066 00:53:43,595 --> 00:53:45,055 And I just didn't want to watch it. 1067 00:53:45,138 --> 00:53:47,140 It just upsets me, so I didn't watch it. 1068 00:53:47,182 --> 00:53:50,060 So I went into the bedroom to watch TV, 1069 00:53:50,143 --> 00:53:52,646 the Star Trek I think is what... The reruns. 1070 00:53:52,687 --> 00:53:55,148 And I was in there and I was laying across the bed. 1071 00:53:55,232 --> 00:53:57,317 I still remember I had on my purple sweats 1072 00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:58,652 of the day, you know, 1073 00:53:58,735 --> 00:54:00,487 and I was all snugged, 1074 00:54:00,528 --> 00:54:02,697 but I fell asleep on top of the covers, 1075 00:54:03,365 --> 00:54:04,658 and he came to bed 1076 00:54:04,699 --> 00:54:06,618 and sort of got in under his side 1077 00:54:06,660 --> 00:54:09,496 and I never really got in the covers. 1078 00:54:09,579 --> 00:54:11,581 And then I heard... 1079 00:54:12,958 --> 00:54:14,626 the doorbell ring, 1080 00:54:14,668 --> 00:54:17,337 and it startled me because I wasn't exactly in bed 1081 00:54:17,379 --> 00:54:19,506 and I wasn't exactly out of bed. 1082 00:54:19,547 --> 00:54:20,632 And I jumped up 1083 00:54:20,674 --> 00:54:23,009 and he was in bed and I ran to the door 1084 00:54:23,093 --> 00:54:25,345 and I didn't see the girls and I was, 1085 00:54:25,387 --> 00:54:27,156 you know, things are running through your mind. 1086 00:54:27,180 --> 00:54:29,808 It's not that many feet from my bed to the front door. 1087 00:54:29,849 --> 00:54:34,521 So, I was looking and I turned the lights on. 1088 00:54:34,562 --> 00:54:36,856 And as soon as I opened the door, 1089 00:54:36,898 --> 00:54:41,194 there were two police officers and a lady with them. 1090 00:54:41,236 --> 00:54:44,322 And I said, "Skip, the police are here. 1091 00:54:44,364 --> 00:54:45,824 Something's wrong with the girls." 1092 00:54:45,865 --> 00:54:48,785 They didn't tell me that. I knew. I knew. 1093 00:54:49,369 --> 00:54:50,370 And he got up 1094 00:54:50,453 --> 00:54:52,330 and they had us sit down on the couch 1095 00:54:52,372 --> 00:54:56,584 and they said there had been a fire, and, um... 1096 00:55:03,883 --> 00:55:04,884 (SNIFFS) 1097 00:55:07,053 --> 00:55:11,308 and that the girls were gone, that they were dead. 1098 00:55:12,350 --> 00:55:16,396 And, uh, I kept trying to listen to that. 1099 00:55:16,438 --> 00:55:17,897 I knew that didn't make sense. 1100 00:55:19,524 --> 00:55:20,710 I knew that it didn't make sense 1101 00:55:20,734 --> 00:55:23,069 because the girls wouldn't just burn up. 1102 00:55:23,111 --> 00:55:24,988 They just wouldn't burn up in a fire. 1103 00:55:25,655 --> 00:55:26,656 And, um... 1104 00:55:27,991 --> 00:55:29,409 And that they were both gone. 1105 00:55:30,243 --> 00:55:31,328 (BREATHING SHAKILY) 1106 00:55:32,871 --> 00:55:33,955 And... 1107 00:55:36,583 --> 00:55:41,838 So, you're processing, trying to... make that work. 1108 00:55:42,714 --> 00:55:45,508 How can someone be and then not be? 1109 00:55:46,217 --> 00:55:47,635 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 1110 00:55:51,389 --> 00:55:52,575 BARBARA: And they wouldn't leave 1111 00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:54,434 until we called someone to be with us. 1112 00:55:54,476 --> 00:55:57,854 I didn't want anybody to know, so I just lied. 1113 00:55:57,937 --> 00:55:59,939 "No, we don't have anybody. We don't know anyone. 1114 00:56:00,732 --> 00:56:02,442 Can't tell that story." 1115 00:56:02,484 --> 00:56:05,070 And finally I admitted 1116 00:56:05,111 --> 00:56:08,114 that I had a sister that lived in this town. 1117 00:56:09,699 --> 00:56:10,742 And... 1118 00:56:12,619 --> 00:56:13,661 Um... 1119 00:56:15,205 --> 00:56:16,414 So, the... 1120 00:56:17,707 --> 00:56:20,210 the lady from the police department 1121 00:56:20,293 --> 00:56:21,378 called my sister. 1122 00:56:22,003 --> 00:56:23,046 It's so funny, 1123 00:56:23,129 --> 00:56:25,924 because we've laughed about this story since. She... 1124 00:56:25,965 --> 00:56:28,134 She jumps out of bed, and what does she put on? 1125 00:56:28,176 --> 00:56:30,095 Her stupid blue sweats. (LAUGHS) 1126 00:56:30,136 --> 00:56:34,307 So, we're both dressed in these silly sweats. 1127 00:56:34,349 --> 00:56:36,101 That's not funny, I know, but... 1128 00:56:36,434 --> 00:56:37,477 Uh... 1129 00:56:37,977 --> 00:56:40,063 it was just crazy. 1130 00:56:40,146 --> 00:56:42,440 So, she did get across town. She had to stop and get gas, 1131 00:56:42,482 --> 00:56:45,151 and she came across town in her blue sweats. 1132 00:56:46,403 --> 00:56:47,529 And, um... 1133 00:56:48,780 --> 00:56:50,824 and then I had to tell her... 1134 00:56:53,701 --> 00:56:56,204 the, um, what had really happened. 1135 00:56:59,624 --> 00:57:00,625 I, uh... 1136 00:57:03,545 --> 00:57:06,131 I... I had to tell her, and I had to see her face. 1137 00:57:09,217 --> 00:57:11,386 It was horrible to see her face. 1138 00:57:13,304 --> 00:57:15,932 You don't want to tell people horrible things. 1139 00:57:17,892 --> 00:57:19,727 And, uh, that was... 1140 00:57:21,604 --> 00:57:23,398 was a really horrible thing. 1141 00:57:23,481 --> 00:57:25,191 CHILD: (ON RECORDING) What? 1142 00:57:25,233 --> 00:57:27,777 Acknowledging someone's death is just... 1143 00:57:29,154 --> 00:57:30,905 is just so very hard. 1144 00:57:31,948 --> 00:57:34,159 And... (SNIFFS) ...so... 1145 00:57:35,410 --> 00:57:39,956 Of course, so then we have to call Mike Harbison, 1146 00:57:40,582 --> 00:57:41,958 the girls' father... 1147 00:57:43,168 --> 00:57:44,836 and hear his screams... 1148 00:57:46,796 --> 00:57:47,797 And... 1149 00:57:50,467 --> 00:57:53,344 and his wife got on the phone and she was saying, 1150 00:57:53,386 --> 00:57:54,387 "Tell me what happened. 1151 00:57:54,471 --> 00:57:56,473 He's screaming and I don't know what happened." 1152 00:57:57,182 --> 00:57:58,641 And we had to tell her. 1153 00:58:01,853 --> 00:58:02,854 And... 1154 00:58:07,442 --> 00:58:10,570 So, you have another person whose life is over. 1155 00:58:11,821 --> 00:58:15,492 And one more person whose life is over. And... 1156 00:58:17,869 --> 00:58:20,455 I had to call my sister, my other sister... 1157 00:58:22,332 --> 00:58:27,545 and tell them that life was over and... 1158 00:58:29,589 --> 00:58:31,132 and listen to the screams. 1159 00:58:34,469 --> 00:58:35,470 And... 1160 00:58:37,347 --> 00:58:40,475 This was just our house. This was just my house. 1161 00:58:40,558 --> 00:58:41,768 There were other houses. 1162 00:58:42,936 --> 00:58:46,189 Bob and Pam had to go through this. (SNIFFLES) 1163 00:58:46,272 --> 00:58:48,191 Maria Thomas had to go through this. 1164 00:58:49,317 --> 00:58:54,239 Telling the families the news of the absence of souls. 1165 00:58:57,951 --> 00:58:59,410 ♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 1166 00:59:03,540 --> 00:59:05,959 ♪ (MELANCHOLY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1167 00:59:53,923 --> 00:59:55,633 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 89786

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