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♪
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...you got through!
Did you pass Chee on the road?
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No.
Where are the children?
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Kansas found
a shelter for them.
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Get down, everybody!
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JOAN FUREY:
My older sister and I one time
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uh, we're watching the movie
So Proudly We Ha il on TV.
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Listen, we still have
a few minutes!
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FUREY:
That's a story about the nurses
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who were trapped on Bataan and
Corregidor during World War II.
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(explosion)
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It was the first, probably,
time in my life that...
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I, uh...
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I realized that women could do
brave and courageous things.
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It wasn't just something
men could do.
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(helicopter blades whirring)
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♪
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NARRATOR:
Second Lieutenant Joan Furey
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had wanted to be a nurse ever
since she was a small child.
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She attended nursing school,
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and, when a high school
classmate was killed during Tet,
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joined the Army to do
what she could for the wounded.
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Furey was assigned
to the 71st Evacuation Hospital
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at Pleiku, in the heart
of the Central Highlands.
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Nothing had prepared her
for what she saw and did
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over the next 12 months.
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(indistinct chatter)
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(grunts)
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Wounded men were choppered in
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at all times
of the day and night.
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So were Viet Cong
and NVA soldiers,
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who sometimes spat
at the medical personnel
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trying to save
their limbs or lives.
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(explosions)
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Whenever the hospital
came under mortar fire,
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Furey stayed with
the most seriously wounded men
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in the ICU.
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(distant explosions)
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We had flak vests and helmets,
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and we crawled
around on the floor.
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(explosion, clattering,
men shouting)
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I mean, you really,
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you just could not leave them
unattended.
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(explosion)
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We just kind of had to swallow
your own fear.
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NARRATOR:
A triage officer made
the grim decisions
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as to who might be saved
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and those for whom
there was no hope.
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FUREY:
One of the things
that initially was so difficult
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was what we called
"expected" patients.
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And these were patients
that would be brought in
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from the battlefield
and it was determined
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they had no chance to survive.
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But they weren't dead yet.
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They brought in a...
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a young soldier
who had a head injury,
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and they said, "He's expected."
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I kind of freaked out, uh,
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and I decided that,
no, they were wrong,
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and I was gonna take care
of this patient.
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I told the corpsman
to get me blood.
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And he's saying,
"Well, Lieutenant,
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the patient is expected."
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I said, "Get me blood."
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So, I take off
the dressing, and...
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the whole back of his head
had been gone.
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When that happened,
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all the blood
I had been giving him came out.
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A friend of mine who came over
just walked me out of there.
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And a few minutes later,
you walk right back in...
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...and you get back
to doing it.
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(amplified heartbeat)
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("Dazed and Confused"
by Led Zeppelin playing)
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♪ Been dazed and confused
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♪ For so long,
it's not true... ♪
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NARRATOR:
Richard Nixon had taken office
as president
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in January of 1969,
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pledged to restore
law and order
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and end the war with honor.
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(gunfire)
Things were calmer at home,
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but in Vietnam,
peace was no closer.
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("Dazed and Confused" continues)
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American soldiers still died
pursuing guerrillas
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who appeared and disappeared
like phantoms.
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Americans still died
capturing hills
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only to give them up and have
to take them back again.
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Men and materiel were
still flowing into the south
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despite the controversial
bombing of Cambodia.
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Through it all,
Hanoi remained immovable.
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The communists insisted
there could be no peace
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until the Saigon government
was replaced
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and the United States withdrew
from Vietnam.
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Meanwhile, the American public
was losing patience.
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♪
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(men shouting)
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(gunfire fades)
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Privately, Nixon knew that
military victory was impossible,
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that things would have
to be settled
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at the bargaining table
in Paris.
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He had to find a way
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to extricate Americans
from Vietnam
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without seeming to surrender.
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Nixon also believed
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his reputation
as an implacable anti-communist
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could work to his advantage
with Hanoi.
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"We'll just slip the word
to them," he said,
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"you know, 'Nixon's obsessed
about communism.
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"'We can't restrain him
when he's angry,
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"and he has his hand
on the nuclear button,'
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"and Ho Chi Minh
will be in Paris in two days
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begging for peace."
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But Ho Chi Minh
was old and ailing now.
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And Le Duan and the other men
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who had been calling the shots
in Hanoi for years
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had no intention
of giving up their goal
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of uniting their country
under communist control.
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("While My Guitar Gently Weeps"
by the Beatles playing)
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Richard Nixon, having promised
a swift end to the war,
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would, like all the presidents
who came before him,
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end up widening it.
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In the process, he would
re-ignite opposition to the war
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on American campuses
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that threatened to tear
the country apart again.
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♪ I look at you all
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♪ See the love there
that's sleeping ♪
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(crowd clamoring)
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♪ While my guitar
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♪ Gently weeps
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♪ I look at the floor...
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MERRILL McPEAK:
The late '60s
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were a kind of confluence
of several rivulets.
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BEATLES:
♪ Still my guitar...
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McPEAK:
There was
the antiwar movement itself...
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♪
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...the whole movement
towards racial equality,
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the environment...
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the role of women.
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And the anthems
for that counterculture
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were provided by the most
brilliant rock-and-roll music
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that you can imagine.
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BEATLES:
♪ And I notice...
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I don't know how we
could exist today as a country
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without that experience.
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With all of its warts
and ups and downs,
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that produced
the America we have today,
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and we are better for it.
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(gunfire)
♪ Surely be learning...
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McPEAK:
And I felt that way in Vietnam.
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♪ Still my guitar...
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McPEAK:
I turned the volume up
on all that stuff.
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That represented
what I was trying to defend.
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♪
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(gunfire, artillery fire,
shouting)
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(explosion)
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♪ Oh, oh
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(fading):
♪ Ooh, ooh, oh, oh...
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HAL KUSHNER:
I never prayed
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the whole time
I was in the P.O.W. camp,
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but I had, like, a mantra.
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Every night
when I went to sleep,
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after a certain point,
I would say,
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"I'll be here
when the morning comes."
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And I felt if I could just live
one more day,
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then I could live one more day,
and then one more day.
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NARRATOR:
At the peace talks in Paris,
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the Nixon administration
had introduced a new demand--
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U.S. troops would not withdraw
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until all American prisoners
had come home
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and Hanoi had provided
a strict accounting
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of those missing in action.
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No one knew
how many prisoners there were.
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Most were airmen
held in or around Hanoi,
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but a handful of others,
like Hal Kushner,
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were struggling to survive
in makeshift jungle camps
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in South Vietnam.
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Hanoi would not reveal
the names of the men they held,
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because they still insisted
they were not prisoners of war,
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but war criminals.
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They subjected many
to brutal torture,
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extracted "confessions,"
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and refused
to permit inspections
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by the International Red Cross.
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The Johnson administration had
generally downplayed the issue,
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hoping quiet diplomacy
might bring the men home.
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The Nixon administration
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launched
a "go public" campaign instead,
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meant to put the plight
of American prisoners
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and those missing in action
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at the center of things.
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It also provided a rebuke
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to those
in the antiwar movement
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who seemed more sympathetic
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to North Vietnamese civilians
who had been bombed
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than they were to U.S. airmen
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who had been shot down
doing that bombing.
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Sybil Stockdale, whose husband,
Commander James Stockdale,
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was the highest-ranking prisoner
in Hanoi,
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formed the National League
of Families
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of Prisoners and Missing
in Southeast Asia,
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and led delegations of wives
to Paris
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to confront
North Vietnamese negotiators.
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Five million Americans began
wearing tin or copper bracelets
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engraved
with a missing man's name
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and date of loss.
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More than 50 million
P.O.W./M.I.A. bumper stickers
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would be sold
over the next four years.
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Despite what their jailers
had told them,
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the prisoners had not been
forgotten by their country.
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Eventually,
one journalist wrote,
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many "people began to speak
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"as though the North Vietnamese
had kidnapped 400 Americans
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and the United States had gone
to war to retrieve them."
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At the same time, the Saigon
government of Nguyen Van Thieu
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was holding prisoners
of its own.
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There would eventually be
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some 40,000 North Vietnamese
and Viet Cong soldiers
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in four crowded camps.
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Another 200,000
South Vietnamese civilians
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would also be held,
many without trial.
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NGUYEN TAI:
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JAMES GILLAM:
There are certain rules
to tunnel warfare.
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Don't turn on the light
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unless you're really, really,
really sure you're alone.
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Use your senses.
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Do your first killing
as quietly as you can.
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That means don't shoot.
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I chased somebody
into a tunnel,
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met them at a bend
in the corner, in the dark.
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I thought I was alone
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and then I smelled
their breath.
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And we had a wrestling match
in the dark.
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And I got the upper hand
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and crushed
this person's trachea,
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held him down while he died...
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...and then got out.
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I beat and strangled
someone to death
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in a tunnel
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in the dark.
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Um...
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But that wasn't
the only casualty.
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The other casualty was
the civilized version of me.
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(gunfire)
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(gunfire continuing)
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(shouting)
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NARRATOR:
April 1969
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marked the high point
of American military commitment
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to South Vietnam.
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543,482 men and women
were now in country,
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and tens of thousands more
were stationed
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at airbases and aboard ships
beyond its borders.
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40,794 had died.
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And more than $70 billion
had been spent.
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(explosion in distance)
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That spring, a new battle
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caught the attention
of the American public,
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a struggle to take still
another numbered hill--
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Hill 937 on military maps.
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CHET HUNTLEY:
For nine days,
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American and South Vietnamese
troops have been trying
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to take a mountain
near the Laotian border,
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and ten times
they have been thrown back.
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(booming, shouting)
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(gunfire)
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(shouting over radio)
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The casualties
have been so high--
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50 Americans and
250 North Vietnamese killed--
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that the mountain has come
to be known as "Hamburger Hill."
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Today, another 600 allied troops
were thrown into the battle.
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(helicopter blades whirring)
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(gunfire)
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(explosion, screaming)
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NARRATOR:
A weary G.I. told a reporter
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that his battalion commander
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"won't stop until he kills
every damn one of us."
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(explosion, gunfire)
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After 11 days of fighting,
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the Battle for Hamburger Hill
ended.
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56 Americans died.
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420 more were wounded.
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A week later, the Americans
abandoned the hill,
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just as they had abandoned
so many other hills
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they had taken at great cost
over the years in Vietnam.
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General, could you explain for
us again the strategy involved
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in the decision to
withdraw American troops
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after they had taken
Hill 937, or Hamburger Hill?
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No piece of ground, as such,
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is important to us.
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HUNTLEY:
In the United States Senate,
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Senator Kennedy
of Massachusetts delivered
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a brief speech
criticizing what he called
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a "senseless and
irresponsible military pride
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"in which American men
are sent to their deaths
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in pointless battles like
this one for Hamburger Hill."
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Kennedy called
upon President Nixon
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to issue new orders
to commanders in Vietnam
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to halt such actions
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and he charged
that they contradict
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the president's
stated intentions
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of seeking a negotiated peace.
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NARRATOR:
There had been more deadly weeks
during the war,
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costlier battles,
larger numbers of casualties.
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But more and more Americans
seemed to have had enough.
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The following month,
Li fe magazine
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published the names
and photographs
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of all 242 Americans
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who had died in combat
in just one week.
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For the first time,
in a national publication,
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casualty statistics
came with human faces.
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The only way they could
measure success in Vietnam
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was, was was kill ratios--
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how many of them
versus how many of us.
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Well, the only thing
that's important
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to the American people
is the "us."
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You know, if there's three
us dead, that's the number.
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Not 30, you know,
Vietnamese dead.
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And, so, politically,
an attrition strategy
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just can't last very long.
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We don't care
what the ratio is,
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we just want
the absolute number
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of how many American kids died.
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NARRATOR:
A Gallup poll now found
that most Americans
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believed Vietnam
had been a mistake.
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Richard Nixon knew he needed
to signal to the public
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that an end was in sight.
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The National Security Council
had warned Nixon
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that the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
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the secretaries of state
and defense,
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the C.I.A.,
and the U.S. Embassy in Saigon
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all privately agreed that
without U.S. combat troops,
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the South Vietnamese
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"cannot now, or in
the foreseeable future,
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"stand up to both Viet Cong
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and sizeable
North Vietnamese forces."
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Nonetheless,
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Secretary of Defense
Melvin Laird said,
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the war was now
to be "Vietnamized."
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Saigon's troops would gradually
take over responsibility
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for engaging the enemy.
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It would be
General Creighton Abrams' task
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to ready the ARVN
for that role,
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and to make sure
that American casualties
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were held down in the interim.
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("The Letter" by The Box Tops
starts playing)
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Meanwhile, American troops
would start to go home.
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♪ Gimme a ticket
for an aeroplane ♪
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♪ Ain't got time
to take a fast train ♪
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DUONG VAN MAI ELLIOTT:
When Nixon came in
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and he announced
the phase withdrawal,
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turning over the fighting
to the Vietnamese,
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which was something
the French had tried before.
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They call itjaunissement--
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yellowizing the war.
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We knew that the Vietnamese Army
was not up to fighting this war.
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If they couldn't do it
with the Americans,
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how were they going
to do it without the Americans?
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♪ Lonely days are gone
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NARRATOR:
Although Washington planned
to vastly increase
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military support
of the South Vietnamese Army,
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General Abrams knew
that Vietnamization alone
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could never defeat the enemy.
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But he had his orders.
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McPEAK:
The reason I was
ordered home early
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was because Nixon...
President Nixon
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announced the policy
of Vietnamization.
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00:22:49,133 --> 00:22:53,232
Now, Vietnamization was a lie,
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00:22:53,333 --> 00:22:57,200
but it had
an element of truth in it.
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We were leaving, okay?
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00:22:59,665 --> 00:23:01,566
And that sealed
the South's fate.
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I knew it.
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00:23:03,165 --> 00:23:06,099
And I think anybody
who was conscious
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00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,932
and could see
what was going on
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knew it.
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NARRATOR:
Nixon then flew
to Midway Island
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to meet with South Vietnamese
President Nguyen Van Thieu.
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He had not dared
invite Thieu to Washington
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for fear of sparking
mass demonstrations.
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♪ Lonely days are gone
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President Thieu informed me
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that the progress
of the training program
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and the equipping program
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for South Vietnamese forces
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had been so successful, uh,
that he could now recommend
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that the United States
begin to replace
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U.S. combat forces
with Vietnamese forces.
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(speaking Vietnamese)
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NARRATOR:
Thieu had said no such thing
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but felt he had to go along.
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"There is nothing I can do,"
he told a friend.
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"Just as we could
do nothing about it
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"when Eisenhower,
Kennedy, and Johnson
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00:24:04,633 --> 00:24:07,599
decided to come in."
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00:24:07,700 --> 00:24:10,665
"We were clearly
on the way out of Vietnam,"
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00:24:10,766 --> 00:24:13,900
National Security Advisor
Henry Kissinger remembered,
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"by negotiation if possible,
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by unilateral withdrawal
if necessary."
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He and the president
were redefining
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what victory would look like.
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TOM VALLELY:
Nixon and Kissinger...
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They...
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Their job is to clean up.
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00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,799
They're, they're...
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00:24:35,900 --> 00:24:37,833
The war's over, okay?
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00:24:37,932 --> 00:24:41,400
When Nixon and Kissinger,
when they come, they're...
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they're not gonna win the war.
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00:24:42,965 --> 00:24:45,299
("Taps" playing)
So they develop
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a secret strategy.
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They surrender without saying
they surrendered.
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This is not a bad strategy,
this is the only strategy.
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("Circle for a Landing" by
Three Dog Night starts playing)
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(indistinct announcement
over P.A.)
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NARRATOR:
As American soldiers began
leaving South Vietnam,
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American weaponry
and materiel poured in.
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00:25:13,500 --> 00:25:15,599
♪ Circle for a landing
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00:25:15,700 --> 00:25:17,900
♪ Get your feet
back on the ground ♪
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More than a million
M16 rifles,
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40,000 grenade launchers,
thousands of wheeled vehicles--
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so many,
one congressman complained,
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that it seemed as if
the United States taxpayer
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was being asked to "put every
South Vietnamese soldier
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behind the wheel."
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NEIL SHEEHAN:
It didn't make any sense,
of course,
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because we tried that
in 1962 and '63.
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The people hadn't changed.
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They were just
giving 'em more furniture.
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NGUYEN THOI BUNG:
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NARRATOR:
South Vietnamese armed forces
were expanded
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from 850,000 men
to over a million.
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But nothing could alter
the fact
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00:26:21,133 --> 00:26:22,599
that rampant corruption
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continually eroded
their effectiveness.
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DON WEBSTER:
The way it works is this:
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a man makes a deal
with his commanding officer,
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00:26:30,900 --> 00:26:33,532
perhaps to pay the officer
his full salary.
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00:26:33,633 --> 00:26:36,599
In exchange, you never have
to show up for duty,
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except perhaps once a week
at the ceremony.
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So while you're theoretically
in the Army,
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you can hold
a full-time civilian job.
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LAM QUANG THI:
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(gunfire)
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NARRATOR:
Many ARVN units did fight well.
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They had borne the brunt
of the fighting
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during the Tet Offensive,
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00:27:14,333 --> 00:27:17,165
and, by the middle of 1969,
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90,000 of them
had been killed in combat.
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Their bravery was
often overlooked by Americans.
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VALLELY:
We were disdainful of them.
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00:27:31,133 --> 00:27:34,099
We overstated their incompetence
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00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,932
because we wanted
to overstate our importance.
483
00:27:38,032 --> 00:27:39,865
(booming in distance)
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00:27:39,965 --> 00:27:43,099
(men shouting, gunfire)
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00:27:49,965 --> 00:27:55,133
Part of going to war in Vietnam
I, I enjoyed.
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00:27:55,232 --> 00:28:00,000
If you survive it,
it's, it's quite thrilling.
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00:28:00,099 --> 00:28:03,066
It's the history of the world.
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00:28:04,532 --> 00:28:05,932
It's hard to survive.
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00:28:06,032 --> 00:28:07,965
I mean, in, where I was,
survival is an issue.
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00:28:08,066 --> 00:28:12,165
I would have loved to have been
in the National Guard.
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00:28:14,365 --> 00:28:15,665
Period.
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00:28:15,766 --> 00:28:17,200
("Bad Moon Rising" by Creedence
Clearwater Revival playing)
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00:28:17,299 --> 00:28:20,099
I knew the core issue
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00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,032
of what was acceptable in war
and what wasn't.
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00:28:23,133 --> 00:28:24,432
I knew that.
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00:28:24,532 --> 00:28:27,299
I didn't need to get that
from the Marine Corps.
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00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,766
I got that from Sunday school.
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00:28:30,865 --> 00:28:33,766
NARRATOR:
Thomas John Vallely
was born in Boston,
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the son of a judge,
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and brought up
in the suburb of Newton.
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00:28:38,299 --> 00:28:43,700
Undiagnosed dyslexia kept him
from doing well in school.
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00:28:43,799 --> 00:28:45,833
By 1969,
503
00:28:45,932 --> 00:28:49,599
Vallely was a radio operator
in the Marine Corps,
504
00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:52,732
part of a massive
search-and-destroy mission
505
00:28:52,833 --> 00:28:57,000
in Quang Nam Province in the
northern part of South Vietnam.
506
00:28:57,099 --> 00:28:58,700
(men shouting, gunfire)
507
00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:00,432
On August 13,
508
00:29:00,532 --> 00:29:02,299
his company was ambushed
509
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,900
and came
under heavy machine gun fire.
510
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,400
(gunfire)
511
00:29:13,299 --> 00:29:17,432
VALLELY:
It was a "grab 'em by the belt"
type of situation.
512
00:29:17,532 --> 00:29:20,432
And we lost a lot of people.
513
00:29:21,965 --> 00:29:23,299
So did they.
514
00:29:25,133 --> 00:29:27,200
Lot of people laying around.
515
00:29:27,299 --> 00:29:29,732
(gunfire, explosion)
516
00:29:29,833 --> 00:29:32,099
NARRATOR:
Vallely radioed
for reinforcements.
517
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,732
Then he picked up a rifle
and ammunition
518
00:29:35,833 --> 00:29:38,232
from a wounded Marine,
519
00:29:38,333 --> 00:29:40,365
and, firing as he went,
took up a position
520
00:29:40,465 --> 00:29:43,299
just ten feet
from an enemy machine gun.
521
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:48,900
He hurled a smoke grenade
to mark their position.
522
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,900
And then, as enemy fire
swept back and forth
523
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,165
across the field,
524
00:29:55,266 --> 00:29:56,833
he moved from Marine to Marine,
525
00:29:56,932 --> 00:29:58,566
pointing out targets
among the trees
526
00:29:58,665 --> 00:30:01,432
and encouraging his comrades.
527
00:30:07,432 --> 00:30:10,333
For his conspicuous gallantry,
528
00:30:10,432 --> 00:30:14,200
Tom Vallely was awarded
the Silver Star.
529
00:30:14,299 --> 00:30:16,532
VALLELY:
You want to tell
your grandchildren
530
00:30:16,633 --> 00:30:19,766
it has a lot to do
with courage,
531
00:30:19,865 --> 00:30:23,365
uh, but it, it's
really quite reactive.
532
00:30:23,465 --> 00:30:25,766
It's survival.
533
00:30:25,865 --> 00:30:27,965
Either you're...
534
00:30:28,066 --> 00:30:30,566
It's, it's...
535
00:30:30,665 --> 00:30:33,000
There's no choice here.
536
00:30:33,099 --> 00:30:37,133
You react or you're not gonna
have grandchildren.
537
00:30:39,965 --> 00:30:41,200
COUNTRY JOE McDONALD:
Give me an "F"!
538
00:30:41,299 --> 00:30:42,200
CROWD:
"F"!
539
00:30:42,299 --> 00:30:43,532
McDONALD:
Give me a "U"!
540
00:30:43,633 --> 00:30:44,532
CROWD:
"U"!
541
00:30:44,633 --> 00:30:45,732
McDONALD:
Give me a "C"!
542
00:30:45,833 --> 00:30:47,700
"C"!
Give me a "K"!
543
00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:48,700
"K"!
544
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:50,032
What's that spell?!
545
00:30:50,133 --> 00:30:52,032
NARRATOR:
Two days after the battle
546
00:30:52,133 --> 00:30:54,299
in which Tom Vallely
distinguished himself,
547
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,099
and while
half a million Americans
548
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,500
were still in Vietnam,
549
00:30:58,599 --> 00:31:00,500
half a million Americans
gathered
550
00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:03,465
on a dairy farm
in upstate New York
551
00:31:03,566 --> 00:31:06,766
for a music festival: Woodstock.
552
00:31:06,865 --> 00:31:09,200
♪ Way down yonder in Vietnam
553
00:31:09,299 --> 00:31:11,400
♪ Put down your books
and pick up a gun ♪
554
00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:12,665
♪ We're gonna have a whole lot
of fun ♪
555
00:31:12,766 --> 00:31:17,266
♪ And it's one, two, three,
what are we fighting for? ♪
556
00:31:17,365 --> 00:31:19,700
♪ Don't ask me,
I don't give a damn ♪
557
00:31:19,799 --> 00:31:22,165
♪ The next stop is Vietnam
558
00:31:22,266 --> 00:31:24,432
♪ And it's five, six, seven
559
00:31:24,532 --> 00:31:26,665
♪ Open up the pearly gates
560
00:31:26,766 --> 00:31:29,833
♪ Well, there ain't no time
to wonder why, whoopee ♪
561
00:31:29,932 --> 00:31:31,932
♪ We're all gonna die
562
00:31:32,032 --> 00:31:35,165
("Soul Sacrifice" by Santana
playing)
563
00:31:57,700 --> 00:31:59,032
♪
564
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,232
(song ends, crowd cheering)
565
00:32:26,333 --> 00:32:30,566
MAN:
Ladies and gentlemen, Santana!
566
00:32:30,665 --> 00:32:33,400
You've been told once,
you've been told twice.
567
00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:35,066
That's all--
spread it out!
568
00:32:35,165 --> 00:32:37,066
("Time of the Season"
by the Zombies playing)
569
00:32:37,165 --> 00:32:38,465
♪ What's your name?
570
00:32:38,566 --> 00:32:40,633
GILLAM:
This guy from Arkansas
571
00:32:40,732 --> 00:32:45,032
told me he would not carry
the radio for me.
572
00:32:45,133 --> 00:32:50,099
He said, "I will not follow you
like Cheetah follows Tarzan.
573
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,333
It's not gonna happen, Sarge."
574
00:32:52,432 --> 00:32:57,165
And I thought, "Oh, this is
gonna be a really long year."
575
00:32:57,266 --> 00:32:59,333
I've got people
down there sweeping,
576
00:32:59,432 --> 00:33:00,732
so get 'em down there.
577
00:33:00,833 --> 00:33:02,500
♪ It's the time
578
00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:05,766
GILLAM:
He evolved a little bit.
579
00:33:05,865 --> 00:33:08,566
You know,
he, he kind of got the idea
580
00:33:08,665 --> 00:33:11,732
that the enemy's bullets
are colorblind.
581
00:33:11,833 --> 00:33:15,133
They would shoot anybody,
not just me.
582
00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:21,432
NARRATOR:
African-Americans had served
in every American war
583
00:33:21,532 --> 00:33:23,932
since the revolution.
584
00:33:24,032 --> 00:33:26,400
In the early years
of the Vietnam War,
585
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:28,865
they suffered
a disproportionate number
586
00:33:28,965 --> 00:33:30,865
of combat deaths.
587
00:33:30,965 --> 00:33:34,133
When civil rights leaders
complained,
588
00:33:34,232 --> 00:33:37,066
the Defense Department
made a concerted effort
589
00:33:37,165 --> 00:33:39,232
to right that balance,
590
00:33:39,333 --> 00:33:42,833
and by 1969, it had succeeded.
591
00:33:42,932 --> 00:33:44,833
But behind the lines,
592
00:33:44,932 --> 00:33:48,566
African-American soldiers
were still treated differently
593
00:33:48,665 --> 00:33:50,932
from their white counterparts.
594
00:33:51,032 --> 00:33:52,932
("Respect" by Otis Redding
playing)
595
00:34:01,766 --> 00:34:03,932
SOLDIER:
And here there's all, all
these beast motherfuckers
596
00:34:04,032 --> 00:34:05,165
walking around here
with their hair
597
00:34:05,266 --> 00:34:07,732
looking like goddamn girls,
598
00:34:07,833 --> 00:34:09,065
and we can't wear our hair
599
00:34:09,166 --> 00:34:10,800
motherfucking
three inches long.
600
00:34:10,900 --> 00:34:13,166
The motherfucking regulation
is three inches.
601
00:34:13,266 --> 00:34:15,932
And most of the brothers
can wear a afro,
602
00:34:16,032 --> 00:34:17,865
the hair gonna be
motherfucking two inches.
603
00:34:17,965 --> 00:34:19,599
And why we got to get
our hair cut?
604
00:34:19,699 --> 00:34:21,099
That's what I want to know.
605
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:23,099
♪ Yeah, man, ooh, yeah
606
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:26,065
WAYNE SMITH:
Vietnam was a microcosm.
607
00:34:26,166 --> 00:34:27,932
Everything that was happening
in America
608
00:34:28,032 --> 00:34:29,800
was happening in Vietnam,
really,
609
00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:31,965
in one way, shape, or form.
610
00:34:32,065 --> 00:34:33,900
In the rear,
611
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,500
there were Confederate flags
flying.
612
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:40,666
SOLDIER 2:
I mean, of all things to have
over here, man,
613
00:34:40,766 --> 00:34:43,000
why a Confederate flag?
614
00:34:43,099 --> 00:34:45,266
As a matter of fact,
I think there ought to be
615
00:34:45,365 --> 00:34:49,333
some goddamn law to fucking
outlaw them goddamn flags, man.
616
00:34:49,432 --> 00:34:53,565
The fucking Confederacy
is gone, man.
617
00:34:53,666 --> 00:34:56,065
SMITH:
When one is in an environment
618
00:34:56,166 --> 00:35:00,800
where everyone has a gun,
automatic weapon,
619
00:35:00,900 --> 00:35:03,599
I'll be goddamned if someone's
gonna call me a nigger
620
00:35:03,699 --> 00:35:05,666
or give me a bullshit order.
621
00:35:05,766 --> 00:35:09,666
I mean, that was the attitude,
to risk my life for what?
622
00:35:09,766 --> 00:35:11,199
REDDING:
♪ Sweeter than honey
623
00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:14,199
ROGER HARRIS:
There was all kind of craziness
happening,
624
00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:17,532
because white people were still
calling, you know, us niggers,
625
00:35:17,632 --> 00:35:20,532
and then there were some black
people calling us Uncle Toms.
626
00:35:20,632 --> 00:35:22,065
There were the antiwar folks
627
00:35:22,166 --> 00:35:24,400
who were calling us
baby killers, say...
628
00:35:24,500 --> 00:35:26,400
You know, you can say what you
want, but you can say it
629
00:35:26,500 --> 00:35:28,132
from over there
because if you get in range,
630
00:35:28,233 --> 00:35:32,032
you're gonna get serious damage
done to you.
631
00:35:32,132 --> 00:35:33,699
Say what you want
from a distance,
632
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,865
but if you get close to me,
I'm gonna rip your throat out.
633
00:35:35,965 --> 00:35:37,532
You know?
634
00:35:37,632 --> 00:35:41,199
JUAN RAMIREZ:
But when we walked outside
that wire,
635
00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:44,233
we went out into the bush,
we were tight.
636
00:35:44,333 --> 00:35:46,565
Even with our differences.
637
00:35:46,666 --> 00:35:48,733
Maybe we had threatened
each other,
638
00:35:48,833 --> 00:35:51,900
we'd had a fight back
in the base,
639
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,666
but when we were out there,
you know,
640
00:35:54,766 --> 00:35:58,333
we, we were a, a fighting unit.
641
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,699
And it's almost like
an identity crisis.
642
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,800
I was born here,
and my parents were born here.
643
00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:10,132
I felt, in a way,
644
00:36:10,233 --> 00:36:13,300
more American than Mexican.
645
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,965
MAN:
...hand and repeat after me...
646
00:36:15,065 --> 00:36:19,365
NARRATOR:
The U.S. military did not
officially count Hispanics,
647
00:36:19,465 --> 00:36:24,099
but an estimated 170,000
would serve in Vietnam
648
00:36:24,199 --> 00:36:28,233
and more than 3,000
lost their lives.
649
00:36:28,333 --> 00:36:30,900
Like their fathers
and grandfathers,
650
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,032
many saw military service
as both a patriotic duty
651
00:36:35,132 --> 00:36:37,900
and an opportunity to advance
their standing
652
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,500
in the United States.
653
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:43,699
But as casualties mounted
654
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,833
and with a burgeoning
Chicano identity movement
655
00:36:45,932 --> 00:36:48,365
among farm workers
and college students,
656
00:36:48,465 --> 00:36:53,132
anti-war sentiment
in Hispanic communities grew.
657
00:36:53,233 --> 00:36:56,865
We're protesting against
the discriminatory draft laws
658
00:36:56,965 --> 00:36:59,032
that give deferments
659
00:36:59,132 --> 00:37:02,365
to all the Anglo middle-class
people of this country
660
00:37:02,465 --> 00:37:05,465
and make the heaviest burdens
of the war
661
00:37:05,565 --> 00:37:08,632
fall on the poor,
fall on theMexicano.
662
00:37:08,733 --> 00:37:11,000
RAMIREZ:
I had learned
663
00:37:11,099 --> 00:37:15,000
about my sister and my mother's
antiwar activities
664
00:37:15,099 --> 00:37:17,000
while I was still in Vietnam.
665
00:37:17,099 --> 00:37:19,266
In fact,
my sister wrote and said,
666
00:37:19,365 --> 00:37:21,800
"I hope you're okay with this."
667
00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:23,532
And she was honest with me.
668
00:37:23,632 --> 00:37:25,532
She told me
what they were doing.
669
00:37:25,632 --> 00:37:28,766
She says, "I'm doing it for you,
'cause I want you to come home."
670
00:37:28,865 --> 00:37:30,699
(indistinct chanting)
671
00:37:35,932 --> 00:37:37,000
(TV clicks on)
672
00:37:37,099 --> 00:37:40,333
In line with our policy
of taking a stand
673
00:37:40,432 --> 00:37:42,166
on the pressing issues
of the day,
674
00:37:42,266 --> 00:37:45,166
we now present another in our
continuing series of editorials.
675
00:37:45,266 --> 00:37:46,132
The subject:
676
00:37:46,233 --> 00:37:49,132
are our draft laws unfair?
677
00:37:49,233 --> 00:37:51,300
Here again,
speaking for our program,
678
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,965
is Mr. Patrick Paulsen,
vice president.
679
00:37:54,065 --> 00:37:55,699
(applause)
680
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,099
Now, we don't claim
the draft is perfect,
681
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:00,266
and we do have
a constructive proposal
682
00:38:00,365 --> 00:38:02,465
for a workable alternative.
683
00:38:02,565 --> 00:38:04,599
We propose a draft lottery
684
00:38:04,699 --> 00:38:07,065
in which the names
of all eligible males
685
00:38:07,166 --> 00:38:08,733
will be put into a hat,
686
00:38:08,833 --> 00:38:12,400
and the men will be drafted
according to their head sizes.
687
00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:16,032
The tiny heads will go
into the military service
688
00:38:16,132 --> 00:38:20,465
and the fat heads
will go into government.
689
00:38:20,565 --> 00:38:22,465
SOLDIER (on radio):
Roger, 3-1 is on his way.
690
00:38:22,565 --> 00:38:25,199
SOLDIER (over radio):
5-8-1.
691
00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:29,333
VINCENT OKAMOTO:
A 19-year-old high school
dropout says,
692
00:38:29,432 --> 00:38:32,199
"Why are we here?"
693
00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:34,065
And the, the standard response,
694
00:38:34,166 --> 00:38:36,099
at least on
an official level, was,
695
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:39,065
to prevent
international communism
696
00:38:39,166 --> 00:38:42,065
from conquering the world.
697
00:38:42,166 --> 00:38:45,965
The men say, "Hey,
that, that's bullshit."
698
00:38:48,266 --> 00:38:49,800
So the other reason put forth,
699
00:38:49,900 --> 00:38:51,932
at least in the latter days
of the war,
700
00:38:52,032 --> 00:38:54,400
was to maintain America's
international credibility
701
00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:57,065
with our allies,
and our enemies.
702
00:38:57,166 --> 00:39:01,300
Uh, no 19, 20-year-old kid
wants to die to maintain
703
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,599
the credibility of
Lyndon Johnson or Richard Nixon.
704
00:39:04,699 --> 00:39:08,099
And so, within a relatively
short time,
705
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:10,333
the guys were saying,
706
00:39:10,432 --> 00:39:13,199
"Look, we shouldn't be here,
but we are.
707
00:39:13,300 --> 00:39:15,199
"So my only function in life
708
00:39:15,300 --> 00:39:18,465
"is to try and keep you alive,
buddy,
709
00:39:18,565 --> 00:39:21,632
"and to keep my precious ass
from being killed.
710
00:39:21,733 --> 00:39:25,400
And then to go home
and forget about this."
711
00:39:27,833 --> 00:39:30,432
SOLDIER:
The grunts, uh,
712
00:39:30,532 --> 00:39:33,666
don't always do what the captain
says, you know.
713
00:39:33,766 --> 00:39:37,233
We got, uh-- the captain
will stay back,
714
00:39:37,333 --> 00:39:39,233
he'll tell the platoon
or something
715
00:39:39,333 --> 00:39:42,032
to go out so many
hundred meters, you know.
716
00:39:42,132 --> 00:39:43,865
We don't do it.
717
00:39:43,965 --> 00:39:45,766
We only go as far
as we get out of sight,
718
00:39:45,865 --> 00:39:47,300
sit down, and come back in.
719
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,233
JOHN PILGER:
What happens to
an unpopular officer
720
00:39:49,333 --> 00:39:51,365
out in the field?
721
00:39:51,465 --> 00:39:54,400
Mostly unpopular officers,
from what I've heard,
722
00:39:54,500 --> 00:39:57,132
if they, if they mess with
a grunt too much,
723
00:39:57,233 --> 00:40:00,099
they get shot at.
724
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:03,599
NARRATOR:
It had always been
a part of war.
725
00:40:03,699 --> 00:40:06,733
In Vietnam,
it was called "fragging,"
726
00:40:06,833 --> 00:40:11,065
after the fragmentation grenades
most often used.
727
00:40:11,166 --> 00:40:16,233
Beginning in
the summer of 1969,
728
00:40:16,333 --> 00:40:20,199
as thousands of American troops
began going home,
729
00:40:20,300 --> 00:40:23,865
the number of reports of the
murder or attempted murder
730
00:40:23,965 --> 00:40:26,000
by enlisted men
of their superiors
731
00:40:26,099 --> 00:40:29,132
increased alarmingly.
732
00:40:29,233 --> 00:40:34,266
The Army would investigate
nearly 800 cases.
733
00:40:34,365 --> 00:40:36,333
Most took place
far from the fighting,
734
00:40:36,432 --> 00:40:39,132
usually the violent outcome
of arguments over race
735
00:40:39,233 --> 00:40:41,400
or women or drugs
736
00:40:41,500 --> 00:40:44,500
rather than the war itself.
737
00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:47,166
But there were exceptions.
738
00:40:47,266 --> 00:40:49,233
OKAMOTO:
It's a totally different army
739
00:40:49,333 --> 00:40:53,166
than what we sent
to Vietnam in 1965.
740
00:40:53,266 --> 00:40:57,300
And the new lieutenant comes in,
all gung-ho for body count.
741
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,932
He wants contact,
he goes crazy, and says,
742
00:41:01,032 --> 00:41:03,333
"I want a volunteer for this."
743
00:41:03,432 --> 00:41:06,032
(rapid gunfire)
744
00:41:06,132 --> 00:41:11,865
That new gung-ho officer
was a clear and present danger
745
00:41:11,965 --> 00:41:15,666
to the life and limb
of the grunts.
746
00:41:15,766 --> 00:41:18,333
They'd have subtle hints,
like a little note saying,
747
00:41:18,432 --> 00:41:21,065
"We're gonna kill your ass
if you keep this up."
748
00:41:21,166 --> 00:41:24,132
Or instead
of a fragmentation grenade,
749
00:41:24,233 --> 00:41:27,965
they may throw a smoke grenade
in an officer's hooch or bunker.
750
00:41:28,065 --> 00:41:32,032
And if they didn't correct
their behavior and outlook,
751
00:41:32,132 --> 00:41:35,532
yeah, they would frag them.
752
00:41:35,632 --> 00:41:39,300
I saw it happen in a very, uh,
strange way.
753
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:47,500
We were in a base and a Marine
started running towards me.
754
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:49,666
I didn't realize that what he...
755
00:41:49,766 --> 00:41:51,900
what he was doing back
in the dark over there
756
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,166
was actually
throw a hand grenade
757
00:41:54,266 --> 00:41:57,733
underneath the space
that is underneath a hooch.
758
00:41:57,833 --> 00:41:59,132
(explosion)
759
00:41:59,233 --> 00:42:01,599
And when it exploded,
I went, "Holy shit."
760
00:42:01,699 --> 00:42:05,032
And I knew right away
what he had done.
761
00:42:05,132 --> 00:42:08,400
And he was
an African-American Marine.
762
00:42:08,500 --> 00:42:10,400
African-Americans were treated
763
00:42:10,500 --> 00:42:12,865
with disrespect
by their superiors.
764
00:42:12,965 --> 00:42:16,800
This was not uncommon.
765
00:42:16,900 --> 00:42:21,800
So in a ways,
as bad as this sounds,
766
00:42:21,900 --> 00:42:24,300
maybe that guy
had it coming to him.
767
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,865
I don't know.
768
00:42:29,099 --> 00:42:31,865
In Paris, the 29th session
of the so-called peace talks
769
00:42:31,965 --> 00:42:32,865
took place.
770
00:42:32,965 --> 00:42:34,766
There was no progress.
771
00:42:34,865 --> 00:42:38,199
In Vietnam, it was announced
that 139 Americans
772
00:42:38,300 --> 00:42:39,800
lost their lives last week,
773
00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:42,500
bringing total deaths
in our longest war...
774
00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:45,500
NARRATOR:
The four-way
peace talks in Paris
775
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:48,166
continued to go nowhere.
776
00:42:48,266 --> 00:42:51,900
To break the logjam,
Nixon directed Henry Kissinger
777
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,666
to begin secret talks,
778
00:42:54,766 --> 00:42:57,400
the first in a series
of clandestine meetings
779
00:42:57,500 --> 00:43:00,266
with the North Vietnamese alone.
780
00:43:00,365 --> 00:43:02,666
They first met
in an apartment building
781
00:43:02,766 --> 00:43:04,800
on the Rue de Rivoli.
782
00:43:04,900 --> 00:43:07,833
The Viet Cong and the
South Vietnamese government
783
00:43:07,932 --> 00:43:10,632
were not included.
784
00:43:10,733 --> 00:43:13,666
Hanoi remained immovable.
785
00:43:13,766 --> 00:43:17,532
They would not even admit they
had troops in South Vietnam,
786
00:43:17,632 --> 00:43:21,532
let alone discuss
withdrawing them.
787
00:43:21,632 --> 00:43:23,400
Now Kissinger warned
788
00:43:23,500 --> 00:43:26,699
that if there were no change
in their position by November 1,
789
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,733
the one-year anniversary
790
00:43:28,833 --> 00:43:31,166
of President Johnson's
bombing halt,
791
00:43:31,266 --> 00:43:32,900
President Nixon
792
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,900
would "consider steps
of grave consequence."
793
00:43:48,500 --> 00:43:52,000
September 2, 1969,
794
00:43:52,099 --> 00:43:54,333
was the 24th anniversary
795
00:43:54,432 --> 00:43:58,233
of Ho Chi Minh's declaration
of Vietnamese independence
796
00:43:58,333 --> 00:44:00,766
in Hanoi's Ba Dinh Square.
797
00:44:02,766 --> 00:44:07,565
At 9:45 that morning, Ho died.
798
00:44:07,666 --> 00:44:12,300
He was said to be 79,
but like so much about him,
799
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:17,699
the precise date of his birth
was shrouded in mystery.
800
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,400
He had been "Uncle Ho"
for decades,
801
00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:23,800
the living embodiment of the
struggle against the Japanese,
802
00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:26,800
the French,
the Saigon government,
803
00:44:26,900 --> 00:44:29,733
and then the Americans.
804
00:44:29,833 --> 00:44:31,766
♪
805
00:44:31,865 --> 00:44:34,632
In a speech
to the National Assembly,
806
00:44:34,733 --> 00:44:39,166
Le Duan, the First Secretary
of the Communist Party,
807
00:44:39,266 --> 00:44:40,565
who had been the architect
808
00:44:40,666 --> 00:44:43,233
of North Vietnamese
military policy
809
00:44:43,333 --> 00:44:44,599
for a decade,
810
00:44:44,699 --> 00:44:48,766
promised to fulfill
what he said was Ho's vision:
811
00:44:48,865 --> 00:44:54,733
the reunification of the country
on communist terms.
812
00:44:56,300 --> 00:44:58,965
Nothing had changed.
813
00:44:59,065 --> 00:45:00,833
ROBERT FRISHMAN:
Hanoi has given
the false impression
814
00:45:00,932 --> 00:45:04,233
that all is wine and roses
and it isn't so.
815
00:45:04,333 --> 00:45:06,699
NARRATOR:
The same day Ho Chi Minh died,
816
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,365
an unusual press conference
was held
817
00:45:09,465 --> 00:45:12,365
at the Bethesda Naval
Medical Center.
818
00:45:12,465 --> 00:45:15,132
Two ailing prisoners of war,
819
00:45:15,233 --> 00:45:18,699
Robert Frishman
and Douglas Hegdahl,
820
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,065
who had recently been released
by the North Vietnamese,
821
00:45:21,166 --> 00:45:23,300
spoke in public
for the first time
822
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,199
about the severe treatment
823
00:45:25,300 --> 00:45:28,666
they and their fellow prisoners
had received.
824
00:45:28,766 --> 00:45:31,233
I don't think
solitary confinement,
825
00:45:31,333 --> 00:45:35,032
forced statements, living in
a cage for three years,
826
00:45:35,132 --> 00:45:38,965
being put in straps, not being
allowed to sleep or eat,
827
00:45:39,065 --> 00:45:42,532
removal of fingernails,
being hung from a ceiling,
828
00:45:42,632 --> 00:45:44,900
having an infected arm
which was almost lost,
829
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,233
not receiving medical care,
830
00:45:47,333 --> 00:45:49,565
being dragged along the ground
with a broken leg,
831
00:45:49,666 --> 00:45:52,599
or not allowing exchange of mail
to prisoners of war
832
00:45:52,699 --> 00:45:54,032
are humane.
833
00:45:54,132 --> 00:45:58,333
NARRATOR:
Douglas Hegdahl was quiet,
self-effacing,
834
00:45:58,432 --> 00:46:01,065
and so apparently clueless,
835
00:46:01,166 --> 00:46:03,233
his North Vietnamese guards
836
00:46:03,333 --> 00:46:06,065
had called him
the "stupid one."
837
00:46:06,166 --> 00:46:07,632
But once released,
838
00:46:07,733 --> 00:46:10,900
he was a gold mine
of information.
839
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,900
He had memorized the names
of more than 200 prisoners
840
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,632
to the tune of
"Old McDonald Had a Farm."
841
00:46:18,733 --> 00:46:21,565
Thanks to him,
scores of American families
842
00:46:21,666 --> 00:46:23,766
would find out
for the first time
843
00:46:23,865 --> 00:46:29,032
that their sons and husbands
and fathers were still alive.
844
00:46:29,132 --> 00:46:32,565
Within a few days
of the press conference,
845
00:46:32,666 --> 00:46:36,432
Hanoi's treatment of the
prisoners began to improve.
846
00:46:36,532 --> 00:46:40,400
"A lot less brutality,"
one captive remembered,
847
00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:43,032
"and larger bowls of rice."
848
00:46:45,632 --> 00:46:47,800
(explosion)
849
00:46:47,900 --> 00:46:49,465
(men yelling)
850
00:46:49,565 --> 00:46:51,465
(rapid gunfire)
851
00:46:57,833 --> 00:46:59,166
DEVALLIER:
All right, who's wounded?
852
00:46:59,266 --> 00:47:01,965
All right, give me some cover!
853
00:47:02,065 --> 00:47:04,733
RICHARD THRELKELD:
Devallier is the lone medic
in the platoon.
854
00:47:04,833 --> 00:47:06,000
He's scared,
855
00:47:06,099 --> 00:47:08,432
scared from the moment
he gets out of the chopper
856
00:47:08,532 --> 00:47:09,965
to the moment
it picks him up.
857
00:47:10,065 --> 00:47:12,965
Scared that someday
he's going to get killed
858
00:47:13,065 --> 00:47:16,032
picking up a wounded buddy.
859
00:47:16,132 --> 00:47:18,032
(rapid gunfire, men yelling)
860
00:47:19,766 --> 00:47:21,965
WAYNE SMITH:
I was the replacement
861
00:47:22,065 --> 00:47:25,666
for a medic
who had been killed.
862
00:47:25,766 --> 00:47:29,333
First time out, we were assigned
to do a patrol.
863
00:47:29,432 --> 00:47:32,766
MAN:
Remember to stop the bleeding!
864
00:47:32,865 --> 00:47:38,465
SMITH:
And we stumbled actually
into an ambush.
865
00:47:38,565 --> 00:47:41,199
(explosion)
866
00:47:41,300 --> 00:47:44,666
And it was incredibly
terrifying.
867
00:47:44,766 --> 00:47:47,065
Guys were screaming and yelling.
868
00:47:47,166 --> 00:47:49,465
There was shooting everywhere.
869
00:47:49,565 --> 00:47:53,532
That first firefight,
I remember praying to God,
870
00:47:53,632 --> 00:47:59,766
if He got me through this
that I would make a difference.
871
00:47:59,865 --> 00:48:04,233
That I really would make
a difference.
872
00:48:04,333 --> 00:48:07,400
MEDIC:
Sometimes their lives depend
on you, I mean;
873
00:48:07,500 --> 00:48:10,432
you hold it in your hands,
as a medic.
874
00:48:10,532 --> 00:48:13,400
It's just hard to say
but right then,
875
00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:15,733
you hold life and death
in your hand.
876
00:48:15,833 --> 00:48:19,532
NARRATOR:
In Vietnam,
medics and navy corpsmen
877
00:48:19,632 --> 00:48:22,065
accompanied infantry units
on patrols,
878
00:48:22,166 --> 00:48:24,032
search and destroy missions,
879
00:48:24,132 --> 00:48:27,632
and large-scale
combat operations.
880
00:48:27,733 --> 00:48:31,500
Nearly 2,000
would lose their lives.
881
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:33,432
(helicopter whirring)
882
00:48:35,199 --> 00:48:37,766
Unlike in previous wars,
883
00:48:37,865 --> 00:48:41,166
many medics in Vietnam chose
to carry weapons,
884
00:48:41,266 --> 00:48:43,666
and when the shooting started,
885
00:48:43,766 --> 00:48:46,465
were willing to use them
to protect themselves
886
00:48:46,565 --> 00:48:49,500
and their wounded comrades.
887
00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:53,000
SMITH:
I carried an M16,
888
00:48:53,099 --> 00:48:56,132
but I did not know
if I could kill.
889
00:48:56,233 --> 00:48:59,833
Part of being a medic
was to save lives.
890
00:48:59,932 --> 00:49:06,233
I wondered, if the scenario
presented itself, would I?
891
00:49:06,333 --> 00:49:10,965
I did participate
in shooting at the enemy.
892
00:49:11,065 --> 00:49:13,500
We killed a lot of people.
893
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:16,865
I feel that responsibility.
894
00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:21,166
I feel blood on my hands.
895
00:49:26,532 --> 00:49:31,132
When you kill someone
for your country,
896
00:49:31,233 --> 00:49:34,099
all things change.
897
00:49:35,733 --> 00:49:37,099
("Come Ye" by Nina Simone
playing)
898
00:49:37,199 --> 00:49:39,632
♪ Come ye
899
00:49:42,032 --> 00:49:45,432
♪ Ye who would have peace...
900
00:49:45,532 --> 00:49:46,932
SAM BROWN:
We believed it's possible
901
00:49:47,032 --> 00:49:49,166
to create a substantial
majority in this country
902
00:49:49,266 --> 00:49:50,865
for withdrawal from Vietnam,
903
00:49:50,965 --> 00:49:52,733
and that's what we're about
in the long run.
904
00:49:52,833 --> 00:49:54,699
In November,
we'll be back again,
905
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,300
in December,
we'll be back again.
906
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,266
And we intend to build
the movement,
907
00:49:58,365 --> 00:50:00,666
which will make it imperative
908
00:50:00,766 --> 00:50:03,032
that the United States
withdraw from Vietnam.
909
00:50:03,132 --> 00:50:06,000
REPORTER:
The organizers
of the moratorium do not aim
910
00:50:06,099 --> 00:50:08,733
at confrontation
or scuffles with the police.
911
00:50:08,833 --> 00:50:11,800
Instead, they want to involve
the most people possible
912
00:50:11,900 --> 00:50:14,833
in some gesture of protest,
however modest,
913
00:50:14,932 --> 00:50:18,465
so as to show the administration
that a large bloc of Americans
914
00:50:18,565 --> 00:50:21,065
care not about winning
or losing the war,
915
00:50:21,166 --> 00:50:23,365
but only about ending it.
916
00:50:23,465 --> 00:50:26,699
♪ Ye who have no fear
917
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:27,965
Thank you.
918
00:50:28,065 --> 00:50:30,300
NIXON:
Now, I understand
919
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,599
that there has been
and continues to be
920
00:50:32,699 --> 00:50:35,532
opposition to the war
in Vietnam on the campuses
921
00:50:35,632 --> 00:50:38,532
and also in the nation.
922
00:50:38,632 --> 00:50:39,666
Uh, we expect it.
923
00:50:39,766 --> 00:50:41,666
However, under no circumstances
924
00:50:41,766 --> 00:50:44,932
will I be affected whatever
by it.
925
00:50:45,032 --> 00:50:48,932
NARRATOR:
Hoping to undercut support
for the moratorium,
926
00:50:49,032 --> 00:50:51,233
Nixon canceled the draft calls
927
00:50:51,333 --> 00:50:55,099
for the months
of November and December 1969.
928
00:50:55,199 --> 00:50:58,500
And he instituted
a random lottery system
929
00:50:58,599 --> 00:51:01,432
based on the date
of a young man's birth,
930
00:51:01,532 --> 00:51:04,432
intended
to treat rich and poor alike
931
00:51:04,532 --> 00:51:08,199
and do away
with unfair deferments.
932
00:51:08,300 --> 00:51:11,800
It was good policy and
a brilliant political maneuver.
933
00:51:11,900 --> 00:51:13,199
(siren wails)
934
00:51:13,300 --> 00:51:14,666
On the line,
brothers and sisters.
935
00:51:14,766 --> 00:51:16,166
On the line now.
936
00:51:16,266 --> 00:51:17,833
("Subterranean Homesick Blues"
by Bob Dylan playing)
937
00:51:17,932 --> 00:51:20,065
NARRATOR:
As people across
the country organized
938
00:51:20,166 --> 00:51:22,000
for the peaceful moratorium,
939
00:51:22,099 --> 00:51:24,065
members of a radical faction
940
00:51:24,166 --> 00:51:26,900
of the Students
for a Democratic Society--
941
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,199
the "Weathermen"--
942
00:51:28,300 --> 00:51:29,400
took more direct action.
943
00:51:29,500 --> 00:51:30,800
♪ The man in a trench coat
944
00:51:30,900 --> 00:51:33,500
NARRATOR:
Less interested
in ending the war
945
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:36,099
than in sparking
a violent revolution,
946
00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:40,932
they staged what they called
four "Days of Rage" in Chicago.
947
00:51:41,032 --> 00:51:43,099
DYLAN:
♪ You better duck
down the alleyway ♪
948
00:51:43,199 --> 00:51:46,266
MAN:
We no longer simply resist
the pigs.
949
00:51:46,365 --> 00:51:48,333
We no longer trap ourselves
950
00:51:48,432 --> 00:51:49,965
so that
the only possible motion
951
00:51:50,065 --> 00:51:52,132
is in response to pig attacks.
952
00:51:52,233 --> 00:51:54,465
We have gone on the offensive.
953
00:51:54,565 --> 00:51:56,465
It is we who call the shots now.
954
00:51:56,565 --> 00:51:58,733
NARRATOR:
"Kill all the rich people,"
955
00:51:58,833 --> 00:52:00,065
one of their leaders said.
956
00:52:00,166 --> 00:52:03,199
"Break up
their cars and apartments.
957
00:52:03,300 --> 00:52:05,432
"Bring the revolution home.
958
00:52:05,532 --> 00:52:07,065
"Kill your parents.
959
00:52:07,166 --> 00:52:10,333
That's really where it's at."
960
00:52:10,432 --> 00:52:12,333
MAN:
Weathermen takes its name
from a line
961
00:52:12,432 --> 00:52:14,099
in a Bob Dylan song which says,
962
00:52:14,199 --> 00:52:15,932
"You don't need a weatherman
963
00:52:16,032 --> 00:52:17,465
to know the way
the wind blows."
964
00:52:17,565 --> 00:52:19,099
DYLAN:
♪ Wash the plain clothes
965
00:52:19,199 --> 00:52:20,599
♪ You don't need a weatherman
966
00:52:20,699 --> 00:52:24,333
♪ To know which way
the wind blows ♪
967
00:52:24,432 --> 00:52:26,733
NARRATOR:
The Weathermen assumed
968
00:52:26,833 --> 00:52:29,500
thousands would rally
to their cause.
969
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:32,565
Only 600 did.
970
00:52:32,666 --> 00:52:36,166
They blew up a statue
honoring slain policemen,
971
00:52:36,266 --> 00:52:39,500
ran through the streets
wielding chains and pipes,
972
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:41,733
smashing windows
and windshields
973
00:52:41,833 --> 00:52:45,365
and charging police barriers.
974
00:52:45,465 --> 00:52:47,132
Six were shot.
975
00:52:47,233 --> 00:52:50,032
250 were jailed.
976
00:52:50,132 --> 00:52:53,365
75 policemen were injured;
977
00:52:53,465 --> 00:52:56,532
a city attorney
was paralyzed for life.
978
00:52:56,632 --> 00:52:58,599
(siren wails)
979
00:52:58,699 --> 00:53:02,166
The Black Panthers
denounced the Weathermen
980
00:53:02,266 --> 00:53:05,266
as "anarchistic,
opportunistic...
981
00:53:05,365 --> 00:53:08,865
Custeristic."
982
00:53:08,965 --> 00:53:12,032
BILL ZIMMERMAN:
Probably 1969 was the year
983
00:53:12,132 --> 00:53:14,300
in which most of us
were more alienated
984
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,233
and felt
more like revolutionaries.
985
00:53:18,333 --> 00:53:23,000
And it led
to a lot of crazy responses.
986
00:53:23,099 --> 00:53:26,965
I wanted the country to undergo
a radical transformation,
987
00:53:27,065 --> 00:53:29,965
a redistribution
of wealth and power.
988
00:53:30,065 --> 00:53:32,266
But to try to bring that about
989
00:53:32,365 --> 00:53:35,099
through armed struggle
in the United States
990
00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:37,166
was insane.
991
00:53:37,266 --> 00:53:39,632
These were all
infantile fantasies
992
00:53:39,733 --> 00:53:42,532
that people came to
out of the frustration
993
00:53:42,632 --> 00:53:45,266
of not having
a workable strategy
994
00:53:45,365 --> 00:53:48,699
for ending the war.
995
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,300
REPORTER:
What do you think
people ought to do, governor,
996
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,233
who are genuinely opposed
to the war
997
00:53:52,333 --> 00:53:54,500
but not in favor
of the Viet Cong?
998
00:53:54,599 --> 00:53:58,932
Well, I think that we have
had... experiences before
999
00:53:59,032 --> 00:54:01,599
of people who have been
opposed to wars,
1000
00:54:01,699 --> 00:54:04,565
and I think they deal through
their own representatives,
1001
00:54:04,666 --> 00:54:07,065
and it's dealt with
in government channels.
1002
00:54:07,166 --> 00:54:09,599
But once the killing starts,
1003
00:54:09,699 --> 00:54:11,565
the very difficult thing then
is,
1004
00:54:11,666 --> 00:54:15,500
how do you register
these protests
1005
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:17,565
without lending comfort
and aid to the enemy,
1006
00:54:17,666 --> 00:54:19,565
without strengthening
his resistance
1007
00:54:19,666 --> 00:54:20,766
and his will to fight
1008
00:54:20,865 --> 00:54:23,400
and thus
killing more of our men?
1009
00:54:23,500 --> 00:54:27,599
And most Americans in the past
have always respected it.
1010
00:54:27,699 --> 00:54:29,233
You see, the people
in this country
1011
00:54:29,333 --> 00:54:31,300
aren't fighting
a Vietnam War.
1012
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,800
The government's fighting it.
1013
00:54:32,900 --> 00:54:34,000
Well, the government is, uh,
1014
00:54:34,099 --> 00:54:36,233
the government
is the people, supposedly,
No.
1015
00:54:36,333 --> 00:54:38,500
but in this instance, it is not.
Not anymore, it's not.
1016
00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:40,032
No, I agree with you,
it is not.
1017
00:54:40,132 --> 00:54:41,465
Not in this situation,
it's not.
1018
00:54:41,565 --> 00:54:43,000
Shouldn't I
let my government know
1019
00:54:43,099 --> 00:54:44,233
that I think they're crazy?
1020
00:54:44,333 --> 00:54:45,800
I think they are insane, really.
1021
00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:47,932
This is an insane thing
we're doing.
1022
00:54:48,032 --> 00:54:49,500
As a matter of fact,
1023
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:51,666
Nixon said
he will not listen to us
1024
00:54:51,766 --> 00:54:53,365
and that he will not
be dictated to
1025
00:54:53,465 --> 00:54:55,266
from the people in the streets.
1026
00:54:55,365 --> 00:54:59,199
The people in the streets
are me.
1027
00:54:59,300 --> 00:55:02,233
(chanting "peace now")
1028
00:55:02,333 --> 00:55:06,599
NARRATOR:
The moratorium on October 15,
1029
00:55:06,699 --> 00:55:08,199
held all across the country,
1030
00:55:08,300 --> 00:55:11,132
was the largest outpouring
of public dissent
1031
00:55:11,233 --> 00:55:12,666
in American history.
1032
00:55:12,766 --> 00:55:16,632
("Blackbird"
by the Beatles playing)
1033
00:55:16,733 --> 00:55:21,432
♪ Blackbird singing
in the dead of night ♪
1034
00:55:21,532 --> 00:55:26,766
♪ Take these broken wings
and learn to fly ♪
1035
00:55:26,865 --> 00:55:30,699
♪ All your life
1036
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:35,333
♪ You were only waiting
for this moment to arise ♪
1037
00:55:35,432 --> 00:55:38,166
NARRATOR:
It was peaceful, middle-class,
1038
00:55:38,266 --> 00:55:41,266
carefully focused
on ending the war.
1039
00:55:41,365 --> 00:55:43,766
"It's nice," one marcher said,
1040
00:55:43,865 --> 00:55:45,599
"to go to a demonstration
1041
00:55:45,699 --> 00:55:50,632
without having to swear
allegiance to Chairman Mao."
1042
00:55:50,733 --> 00:55:52,166
♪ All your life
1043
00:55:52,266 --> 00:55:54,800
FRANK McGEE:
Surely this is a day
unique in our history.
1044
00:55:54,900 --> 00:55:57,865
Never have
so many of our people publicly
1045
00:55:57,965 --> 00:56:00,300
and collectively
manifested opposition
1046
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,532
to this country's involvement
in a war.
1047
00:56:03,632 --> 00:56:06,565
It is unlikely
we will remain unchanged.
1048
00:56:06,666 --> 00:56:09,500
Hundreds and hundreds
of thousands
1049
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:11,699
in cities from New York,
with its eight million people,
1050
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,099
to Dubois, Wyoming,
with its 800 people,
1051
00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:17,432
have sought to impress
upon the president
1052
00:56:17,532 --> 00:56:19,599
their opposition to the war.
1053
00:56:19,699 --> 00:56:22,000
(bell rings)
1054
00:56:22,099 --> 00:56:28,900
CAROL CROCKER:
The first large protest march
I went to was in Baltimore.
1055
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,500
I'd never been with that many
people at one time.
1056
00:56:32,599 --> 00:56:38,666
Just the energy of the crowd
itself was tremendous.
1057
00:56:38,766 --> 00:56:41,065
I wondered
if everybody was in it
1058
00:56:41,166 --> 00:56:43,132
for the right reasons.
1059
00:56:43,233 --> 00:56:47,865
I wasn't there to drink
or smoke pot.
1060
00:56:47,965 --> 00:56:50,199
Not in those situations.
1061
00:56:50,300 --> 00:56:53,833
These, to me,
were serious business.
1062
00:56:53,932 --> 00:56:57,400
This was the business
of living life.
1063
00:56:57,500 --> 00:56:58,833
This was not a party.
1064
00:56:58,932 --> 00:57:01,666
I didn't just want
to be with the crowd.
1065
00:57:01,766 --> 00:57:03,766
I didn't just want
to make noise.
1066
00:57:03,865 --> 00:57:05,900
I wanted to make a difference.
1067
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,465
And I in no way
wanted to dishonor my brother.
1068
00:57:10,565 --> 00:57:12,099
♪ For this moment to arrive
1069
00:57:12,199 --> 00:57:14,199
QUINN:
For most
of the government today,
1070
00:57:14,300 --> 00:57:15,733
it was business as usual.
1071
00:57:15,833 --> 00:57:17,565
But at noon
on the Capitol steps,
1072
00:57:17,666 --> 00:57:20,065
a thousand young
congressional staff employees
1073
00:57:20,166 --> 00:57:22,800
stood in silence
for 45 minutes.
1074
00:57:22,900 --> 00:57:27,465
♪ Blackbird singing
in the dead of night ♪
1075
00:57:27,565 --> 00:57:30,965
NARRATOR:
The children of several of
the president's closest aides
1076
00:57:31,065 --> 00:57:32,400
and cabinet members
1077
00:57:32,500 --> 00:57:35,166
took part
in the national moratorium.
1078
00:57:35,266 --> 00:57:38,565
Vice President Agnew's
14-year-old daughter
1079
00:57:38,666 --> 00:57:40,300
wanted to march,
1080
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:41,932
but he wouldn't let her.
1081
00:57:42,032 --> 00:57:44,032
Coretta Scott King,
1082
00:57:44,132 --> 00:57:47,000
the widow
of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.,
1083
00:57:47,099 --> 00:57:49,833
led thousands
of silent demonstrators
1084
00:57:49,932 --> 00:57:53,699
streaming past the White House,
where Nixon sat alone,
1085
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,132
writing notes to himself
on a yellow pad.
1086
00:57:57,233 --> 00:57:59,132
"Don't get rattled.
Don't waver.
1087
00:57:59,233 --> 00:58:01,865
Don't react."
1088
00:58:04,465 --> 00:58:06,266
On November 3,
1089
00:58:06,365 --> 00:58:09,733
the president sought
to seize back the initiative.
1090
00:58:09,833 --> 00:58:11,632
Good evening,
my fellow Americans.
1091
00:58:11,733 --> 00:58:15,599
NARRATOR:
He went on national television
and called for patience
1092
00:58:15,699 --> 00:58:18,932
and asked Americans
to rally behind him.
1093
00:58:19,032 --> 00:58:20,865
NIXON:
To you,
1094
00:58:20,965 --> 00:58:25,233
the great silent majority
of my fellow Americans,
1095
00:58:25,333 --> 00:58:27,233
I ask for your support.
1096
00:58:27,333 --> 00:58:30,300
I pledged in my campaign
for the presidency
1097
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:31,865
to end the war
1098
00:58:31,965 --> 00:58:34,932
in a way
that we could win the peace.
1099
00:58:35,032 --> 00:58:38,699
The more support I can have
from the American people,
1100
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,833
the sooner that pledge
can be redeemed;
1101
00:58:40,932 --> 00:58:44,365
for the more divided we are
at home,
1102
00:58:44,465 --> 00:58:48,166
the less likely the enemy
is to negotiate at Paris.
1103
00:58:48,266 --> 00:58:49,500
("Okie From Muskogee"
by Merle Haggard playing)
1104
00:58:49,599 --> 00:58:51,965
Let us be united for peace.
1105
00:58:52,065 --> 00:58:56,300
♪ We don't smoke marijuana
in Muskogee ♪
1106
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,532
NARRATOR:
The speech was a triumph.
1107
00:58:58,632 --> 00:59:02,599
Nixon's approval rate
soared to 68%.
1108
00:59:04,900 --> 00:59:07,266
MAN:
All that's in the news
1109
00:59:07,365 --> 00:59:09,500
is the fact that
the moratoriums are meeting,
1110
00:59:09,599 --> 00:59:11,565
that our country's sick...
1111
00:59:11,666 --> 00:59:13,432
sick of this and sick of that.
1112
00:59:13,532 --> 00:59:16,166
It's young people are all
the ones that are standing up.
1113
00:59:16,266 --> 00:59:19,632
And there is a silent majority,
which is no longer silent.
1114
00:59:19,733 --> 00:59:22,965
We're the people
who are wanting to show
1115
00:59:23,065 --> 00:59:25,965
that man deserves freedom
no matter where he is.
1116
00:59:26,065 --> 00:59:28,266
♪ A place where even squares
can have a ball ♪
1117
00:59:28,365 --> 00:59:30,900
Many brave men died in
this country to make it free...
1118
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,599
I believe that.
1119
00:59:32,699 --> 00:59:34,900
and let you...
and let you have everything.
1120
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,233
SPIRO AGNEW:
Senator Fulbright
said some months ago
1121
00:59:38,333 --> 00:59:40,833
that if the Vietnam War
went on much longer,
1122
00:59:40,932 --> 00:59:44,766
the best of our young people
would be in Canada.
1123
00:59:44,865 --> 00:59:47,733
Indeed, as for these deserters,
1124
00:59:47,833 --> 00:59:51,800
malcontents, radicals,
incendiaries,
1125
00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:54,233
the civil
and the uncivil disobedience
1126
00:59:54,333 --> 00:59:56,199
among our young,
1127
00:59:56,300 --> 00:59:58,166
SDS, PLP,
1128
00:59:58,266 --> 00:59:59,400
Weatherman one, Weatherman two,
1129
00:59:59,500 --> 01:00:01,699
the Revolutionary
Action Movement,
1130
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,900
Panthers, lions, hippies,
1131
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,800
yippies, tigers alike.
1132
01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:09,365
I'd rather swap
the whole damn zoo
1133
01:00:09,465 --> 01:00:11,932
for a single platoon
of the kind of young Americans
1134
01:00:12,032 --> 01:00:13,333
I saw in Vietnam.
1135
01:00:13,432 --> 01:00:16,300
(applause)
1136
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,599
NARRATOR:
"We've got the liberal bastards
on the run now,"
1137
01:00:19,699 --> 01:00:22,233
Nixon told his aides,
1138
01:00:22,333 --> 01:00:26,465
"and we're going to keep them
on the run."
1139
01:00:26,565 --> 01:00:28,333
("My Son" by Jan Howard playing)
1140
01:00:36,632 --> 01:00:40,865
♪ My son, my son
1141
01:00:40,965 --> 01:00:42,932
JAN HOWARD:
My doorbell rang,
1142
01:00:43,032 --> 01:00:45,199
and it was this guy
standing there,
1143
01:00:45,300 --> 01:00:48,465
and he said, "Ms. Howard,
we're marching in Memphis
1144
01:00:48,565 --> 01:00:51,400
in protest of the Vietnam War."
1145
01:00:51,500 --> 01:00:53,465
I said, "Really?"
1146
01:00:53,565 --> 01:00:57,000
He said, "And we figured
in view of what happened..."
1147
01:00:57,099 --> 01:01:00,266
I said, "Yeah, my son's death."
1148
01:01:00,365 --> 01:01:03,199
He said, "Well, we thought
you'd like to join us."
1149
01:01:03,300 --> 01:01:05,565
I said,
"One of the reasons he died
1150
01:01:05,666 --> 01:01:07,065
"was so you have the right.
1151
01:01:07,166 --> 01:01:09,932
"In this country,
you have a right.
1152
01:01:10,032 --> 01:01:12,099
"Go right ahead and demonstrate.
1153
01:01:12,199 --> 01:01:14,166
Have at it."
1154
01:01:14,266 --> 01:01:16,632
I said, "But no,
I won't be joining you."
1155
01:01:16,733 --> 01:01:18,365
I said, "But I'll tell you what.
1156
01:01:18,465 --> 01:01:20,199
"If you ever
ring my doorbell again,
1157
01:01:20,300 --> 01:01:23,300
I will blow your damn head off
with a .357 Magnum."
1158
01:01:33,632 --> 01:01:35,900
TIM O'BRIEN:
Well, I was stationed in Vietnam
1159
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,400
at a province
called Quang Ngai.
1160
01:01:39,500 --> 01:01:41,032
Even back during the time
of the French,
1161
01:01:41,132 --> 01:01:45,099
it was a very heavily
Viet Minh area,
1162
01:01:45,199 --> 01:01:47,666
and, when I arrived,
heavily Viet Cong.
1163
01:01:50,333 --> 01:01:53,900
NARRATOR:
No province suffered more during
the American war
1164
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,365
than the coastal province
of Quang Ngai.
1165
01:01:56,465 --> 01:01:58,432
(artillery fire)
1166
01:01:58,532 --> 01:02:03,333
More than 70% of its villages
had been shelled by Navy ships,
1167
01:02:03,432 --> 01:02:07,266
bombed, bulldozed,
or burned to the ground,
1168
01:02:07,365 --> 01:02:09,733
and more than 40% of its people
1169
01:02:09,833 --> 01:02:12,400
had been forced
into refugee camps
1170
01:02:12,500 --> 01:02:15,965
before Tim O'Brien
from Worthington, Minnesota,
1171
01:02:16,065 --> 01:02:18,465
got there in 1969.
1172
01:02:20,500 --> 01:02:22,166
O'BRIEN:
It was a province
that was viewed
1173
01:02:22,266 --> 01:02:24,632
much as I guess
many Americans might view,
1174
01:02:24,733 --> 01:02:26,965
you know,
sort of redneck America.
1175
01:02:27,065 --> 01:02:30,432
Sort of country bumpkins.
1176
01:02:30,532 --> 01:02:31,833
And they may have been
country bumpkins,
1177
01:02:31,932 --> 01:02:34,333
but they were
fiercely independent.
1178
01:02:34,432 --> 01:02:37,800
NARRATOR:
Private O'Brien served
in Alpha Company,
1179
01:02:37,900 --> 01:02:42,500
3rd Platoon, 5th Battalion,
23rd Americal Division,
1180
01:02:42,599 --> 01:02:45,733
headquartered
at a landing zone called Gator,
1181
01:02:45,833 --> 01:02:49,099
"30 or 40 acres
of almost-America,"
1182
01:02:49,199 --> 01:02:50,833
O'Brien remembered,
1183
01:02:50,932 --> 01:02:54,166
with hot showers and cold beer.
1184
01:02:55,865 --> 01:02:57,565
O'BRIEN:
There was no sense of mission.
1185
01:02:57,666 --> 01:02:59,199
There was no sense
of daily purpose.
1186
01:02:59,300 --> 01:03:01,432
We didn't know
why we were in a village
1187
01:03:01,532 --> 01:03:03,666
or what we were supposed
to accomplish.
1188
01:03:03,766 --> 01:03:05,932
So we'd kick around
jugs of rice
1189
01:03:06,032 --> 01:03:08,900
and search houses
and frisk people,
1190
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,333
and not knowing
what we were looking for
1191
01:03:11,432 --> 01:03:14,833
and rarely finding anything.
1192
01:03:14,932 --> 01:03:16,166
And somebody might die,
1193
01:03:16,266 --> 01:03:18,065
one of our guys,
and somebody might not.
1194
01:03:18,166 --> 01:03:20,532
Then we'd come back to
the same village a week later
1195
01:03:20,632 --> 01:03:22,865
or two weeks later,
do it all over again.
1196
01:03:22,965 --> 01:03:25,733
It was like chasing ghosts.
1197
01:03:25,833 --> 01:03:28,132
(helicopter blades whirring)
1198
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,599
NARRATOR:
An American APC
1199
01:03:31,699 --> 01:03:35,166
accidentally crushed one man
from O'Brien's company.
1200
01:03:35,266 --> 01:03:39,465
An enemy grenade skittered off
O'Brien's helmet and exploded,
1201
01:03:39,565 --> 01:03:42,965
wounding a G.I. standing
a few feet away.
1202
01:03:45,900 --> 01:03:49,900
But mines and booby traps
were the greatest menace.
1203
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,900
O'BRIEN:
Somewhere around 80%
of our casualties
1204
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,465
came from land mines
of all sorts.
1205
01:04:03,166 --> 01:04:06,099
In Vietnam, for me,
just to get up in the morning
1206
01:04:06,199 --> 01:04:09,400
and look out at the land
and think,
1207
01:04:09,500 --> 01:04:12,300
"In a few minutes
I'll be walking out there,
1208
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,266
"and will my corpse
be there or there?
1209
01:04:15,365 --> 01:04:18,565
Will I lose a leg out there?"
1210
01:04:18,666 --> 01:04:22,900
I'd always thought of courage
as charging enemy bunkers
1211
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,266
or standing up under fire.
1212
01:04:25,365 --> 01:04:28,699
But just to walk
through Quang Ngai,
1213
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,065
day after day,
from village to village,
1214
01:04:31,166 --> 01:04:35,432
and through the paddies
and up into the mountains,
1215
01:04:35,532 --> 01:04:39,065
just to make your legs move
was an act of courage
1216
01:04:39,166 --> 01:04:41,833
that if, say,
you were living in Sioux City,
1217
01:04:41,932 --> 01:04:43,565
it wouldn't be courageous
1218
01:04:43,666 --> 01:04:46,166
to walk to the grocery store
or down Main Street,
1219
01:04:46,266 --> 01:04:48,865
you know, just to have
your legs go back and forth.
1220
01:04:48,965 --> 01:04:50,599
But in Vietnam, for me,
1221
01:04:50,699 --> 01:04:52,800
just to walk felt
incredibly brave.
1222
01:04:52,900 --> 01:04:55,365
I would sometimes look
at my legs as I walked,
1223
01:04:55,465 --> 01:04:57,432
thinking, "How am I doing this?"
1224
01:05:00,233 --> 01:05:02,132
BAO NINH:
1225
01:05:29,766 --> 01:05:32,000
NARRATOR:
Bao Ninh was 17
1226
01:05:32,099 --> 01:05:34,900
when he was drafted
into the North Vietnamese Army
1227
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,099
to fight the Americans,
1228
01:05:36,199 --> 01:05:39,465
just as his father
had fought the French.
1229
01:05:39,565 --> 01:05:42,800
His war would take place
in the Central Highlands
1230
01:05:42,900 --> 01:05:45,032
of South Vietnam.
1231
01:05:45,132 --> 01:05:47,233
It was American firepower
1232
01:05:47,333 --> 01:05:51,932
that Bao Ninh and his fellow
soldiers feared the most.
1233
01:05:52,032 --> 01:05:52,699
(explosion)
1234
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:54,733
BAO NINH:
1235
01:07:20,132 --> 01:07:21,500
(explosion)
1236
01:08:11,300 --> 01:08:13,699
(birds chirping, squawking)
1237
01:08:17,332 --> 01:08:19,399
NARRATOR:
Back in the spring,
1238
01:08:19,500 --> 01:08:22,932
Tim O'Brien's outfit had been
sent into an area of operations
1239
01:08:23,033 --> 01:08:25,800
the Americans called
"Pinkville,"
1240
01:08:25,899 --> 01:08:27,733
clusters of villages
1241
01:08:27,832 --> 01:08:31,199
that included a hamlet
they called My Lai.
1242
01:08:33,065 --> 01:08:35,199
O'BRIEN:
We hated going there.
1243
01:08:35,300 --> 01:08:38,065
When we'd get the word,
"You're headed for Pinkville,"
1244
01:08:38,166 --> 01:08:40,100
one guy would say to another,
"Somebody's gonna die,"
1245
01:08:40,199 --> 01:08:41,533
or, "Somebody's
gonna lose a leg."
1246
01:08:41,632 --> 01:08:43,632
We were terrified of the place.
1247
01:08:43,733 --> 01:08:47,166
It was littered
with land mines.
1248
01:08:47,265 --> 01:08:49,166
The villagers were...
1249
01:08:49,265 --> 01:08:51,065
The expressions on their faces,
1250
01:08:51,166 --> 01:08:55,466
including the children
of, say, six or five years old,
1251
01:08:55,565 --> 01:09:00,733
had a mixture of hostility
and terror.
1252
01:09:03,033 --> 01:09:04,500
I can't say
many of the villagers
1253
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,632
came with open arms to us,
1254
01:09:06,733 --> 01:09:08,765
but this place was special.
1255
01:09:08,865 --> 01:09:10,865
And I remember talking
to fellow soldiers,
1256
01:09:10,966 --> 01:09:13,233
thinking,
"What is it with this place?"
1257
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,632
And then about three-quarters
of the way
1258
01:09:16,733 --> 01:09:18,365
through my tour in Vietnam,
1259
01:09:18,466 --> 01:09:21,666
the story of the My Lai Massacre
broke in the States.
1260
01:09:22,966 --> 01:09:25,966
NARRATOR:
On November 12, 1969,
1261
01:09:26,065 --> 01:09:28,600
the Dispatch News Service
in Washington
1262
01:09:28,699 --> 01:09:32,733
moved a story by investigative
journalist Seymour Hersh.
1263
01:09:34,033 --> 01:09:36,265
It was soon followed
by the publication
1264
01:09:36,365 --> 01:09:41,332
of graphic photos taken by Army
photographer Ronald Haeberle.
1265
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,632
The story and the pictures
stunned the country.
1266
01:09:46,733 --> 01:09:48,365
HUNTLEY:
Charges have been made
1267
01:09:48,466 --> 01:09:51,199
that troops
of the Americal Division
1268
01:09:51,300 --> 01:09:54,733
killed as many as
567 South Vietnamese civilians
1269
01:09:54,832 --> 01:09:58,000
during a sweep in March 1968.
1270
01:09:59,265 --> 01:10:01,233
NARRATOR:
20 months earlier,
1271
01:10:01,332 --> 01:10:04,800
on the morning
of March 16, 1968,
1272
01:10:04,899 --> 01:10:07,500
105 men from a rifle company
1273
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,765
belonging
to the Americal Division,
1274
01:10:09,865 --> 01:10:11,966
and led
by Captain Ernest Medina
1275
01:10:12,065 --> 01:10:14,199
and Lieutenant William Calley,
1276
01:10:14,300 --> 01:10:18,399
had been ordered to helicopter
into the village of My Lai 4.
1277
01:10:19,733 --> 01:10:22,966
Since arriving in Vietnam,
they had lost 28 men
1278
01:10:23,065 --> 01:10:27,932
to mines and booby traps
and unseen snipers.
1279
01:10:28,033 --> 01:10:32,832
Two days earlier, a popular
squad leader had been killed.
1280
01:10:32,932 --> 01:10:36,600
They had been told
a unit of main-force Viet Cong
1281
01:10:36,699 --> 01:10:38,365
was waiting for them,
1282
01:10:38,466 --> 01:10:41,233
and they were eager
for revenge.
1283
01:10:42,500 --> 01:10:45,000
But they received
no hostile fire,
1284
01:10:45,100 --> 01:10:49,966
encountered no enemy soldiers.
1285
01:10:51,432 --> 01:10:54,733
Instead,
over the next four hours,
1286
01:10:54,832 --> 01:10:57,666
Medina, Calley,
and their men murdered
1287
01:10:57,765 --> 01:11:05,500
407 defenseless old men,
women, children, and infants.
1288
01:11:15,466 --> 01:11:18,132
Many of the women and girls
were raped
1289
01:11:18,233 --> 01:11:20,533
before they were shot.
1290
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,899
There would have been
still more slaughter
1291
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:30,166
had a helicopter pilot named
Hugh Thompson, Jr., not landed
1292
01:11:30,265 --> 01:11:33,666
between the men and some
of their intended targets
1293
01:11:33,765 --> 01:11:37,399
and ordered his crew to open
fire on their fellow Americans
1294
01:11:37,500 --> 01:11:40,765
if they did not stop
shooting civilians.
1295
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,533
At the same time,
just a mile or so away,
1296
01:11:47,632 --> 01:11:52,332
another company murdered
97 more villagers.
1297
01:11:54,332 --> 01:11:57,365
O'BRIEN:
And suddenly it was like
a window shade going up,
1298
01:11:57,466 --> 01:11:58,899
and then there's light,
1299
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,065
and we understood
what had engendered
1300
01:12:01,166 --> 01:12:04,500
this horror in these kids' faces
1301
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,332
and fear and the...
and the hatred.
1302
01:12:07,432 --> 01:12:10,966
Hundred and some American
soldiers in four hours or so
1303
01:12:11,065 --> 01:12:13,733
butchering innocent people,
1304
01:12:13,832 --> 01:12:15,899
in all kinds of ways--
machine-gunning them
1305
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,300
and throwing them in wells
and scalping them
1306
01:12:18,399 --> 01:12:20,265
and killing them in ditches
1307
01:12:20,365 --> 01:12:22,966
and taking a lunch break
and then doing it some more.
1308
01:12:24,100 --> 01:12:26,233
Systematic homicide.
1309
01:12:26,332 --> 01:12:27,865
MIKE WALLACE:
What kind of people?
1310
01:12:27,966 --> 01:12:28,966
Men, women, children?
1311
01:12:29,065 --> 01:12:30,500
PAUL MEADLO:
Men, women, children.
1312
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,300
WALLACE: Babies?
MEADLO: Babies.
1313
01:12:32,399 --> 01:12:34,233
Uh, Lieutenant Calley
came over and said,
1314
01:12:34,332 --> 01:12:36,233
"You know what to do with them,
don't you?"
1315
01:12:36,332 --> 01:12:37,832
And, uh, I said, "Yes."
1316
01:12:37,932 --> 01:12:41,932
So l took it for granted that
he just wanted us to watch them.
1317
01:12:42,033 --> 01:12:43,800
And he left and came back
1318
01:12:43,899 --> 01:12:46,466
about ten or...
ten or 15 minutes later,
1319
01:12:46,565 --> 01:12:50,800
and said, "How come you ain't,
uh, killed them yet?"
1320
01:12:50,899 --> 01:12:52,466
You killed how many
at that time?
1321
01:12:52,565 --> 01:12:55,065
Well, I fired my automatic,
so, uh...
1322
01:12:55,166 --> 01:12:57,800
you can't, uh...
you just spray the area on them,
1323
01:12:57,899 --> 01:13:00,265
so you really can't know
how many you killed
1324
01:13:00,365 --> 01:13:03,166
because it comes out
so doggone fast.
1325
01:13:03,265 --> 01:13:07,500
So I, I might've killed
about, uh, ten or 15 of them.
1326
01:13:08,632 --> 01:13:10,132
Men, women,
and children?
1327
01:13:10,233 --> 01:13:11,800
Men, women, and children.
1328
01:13:11,899 --> 01:13:13,966
And babies?
And babies.
1329
01:13:15,432 --> 01:13:17,332
Why did I do it?
1330
01:13:17,432 --> 01:13:20,233
Because I felt like
I was ordered to do it.
1331
01:13:20,332 --> 01:13:22,899
And it seemed like, uh...
1332
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,533
Well, at the time, I felt like
I was doing the right thing.
1333
01:13:29,632 --> 01:13:31,533
I really did.
1334
01:13:31,632 --> 01:13:34,699
Because, uh, like I said,
I lost buddies,
1335
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,699
I lost... I lost a good...
1336
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:41,166
damn good buddy--
Bobby Wilson--
1337
01:13:41,265 --> 01:13:44,932
and it was on my conscience,
and it was on...
1338
01:13:45,033 --> 01:13:47,000
So after I done it, I felt good.
1339
01:13:47,100 --> 01:13:51,332
But later on that day,
it was getting to me.
1340
01:13:51,432 --> 01:13:54,500
It's so hard, I think,
for a good many Americans
1341
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:57,632
to understand
that young, capable,
1342
01:13:57,733 --> 01:14:01,000
brave American boys
1343
01:14:01,100 --> 01:14:04,033
could line up
1344
01:14:04,132 --> 01:14:08,733
old men, women,
children, and babies
1345
01:14:08,832 --> 01:14:11,565
and shoot them down
in cold blood.
1346
01:14:16,300 --> 01:14:18,533
How do you explain that?
1347
01:14:18,632 --> 01:14:20,565
I wouldn't know.
1348
01:14:26,500 --> 01:14:28,399
(low, distant chatter)
1349
01:14:30,666 --> 01:14:34,733
NARRATOR:
The killing of civilians
has happened in every war.
1350
01:14:34,832 --> 01:14:39,132
In Vietnam,
it was not policy or routine,
1351
01:14:39,233 --> 01:14:41,865
but it was not
an aberration, either.
1352
01:14:43,432 --> 01:14:48,332
Still, the scale
and deliberateness and intimacy
1353
01:14:48,432 --> 01:14:50,565
of what happened at My Lai
1354
01:14:50,666 --> 01:14:51,966
was different.
1355
01:14:52,065 --> 01:14:53,699
SHEEHAN:
It was different
1356
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,533
because they were killing
Vietnamese point-blank
1357
01:14:56,632 --> 01:14:58,000
with rifles and grenades.
1358
01:14:58,100 --> 01:15:00,432
They were murdering them
directly.
1359
01:15:00,533 --> 01:15:02,800
They weren't doing it
with bombs and artillery.
1360
01:15:02,899 --> 01:15:04,332
If they'd been doing it
with bombs and artillery,
1361
01:15:04,432 --> 01:15:05,500
nobody would have said a word,
1362
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:06,600
because it was going on
all the time.
1363
01:15:08,033 --> 01:15:09,332
NARRATOR:
Not every soldier
1364
01:15:09,432 --> 01:15:11,166
participated in the killings
that day.
1365
01:15:11,265 --> 01:15:14,800
Some led villagers away
to safety.
1366
01:15:14,899 --> 01:15:17,666
But a failure
of military leadership
1367
01:15:17,765 --> 01:15:20,865
at nearly every level had
created the conditions
1368
01:15:20,966 --> 01:15:24,365
that made the massacre possible.
1369
01:15:24,466 --> 01:15:28,699
The My Lai story might have
shocked the American public,
1370
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,000
but it was not news
to the Army.
1371
01:15:31,100 --> 01:15:34,199
It had occurred
almost two years before,
1372
01:15:34,300 --> 01:15:37,365
just after the Tet Offensive.
1373
01:15:37,466 --> 01:15:39,832
Hugh Thompson,
the helicopter pilot
1374
01:15:39,932 --> 01:15:42,000
who had tried
to stop the massacre,
1375
01:15:42,100 --> 01:15:44,932
reported what he had seen,
1376
01:15:45,033 --> 01:15:46,932
but no one
in the chain of command
1377
01:15:47,033 --> 01:15:48,265
was willing to act.
1378
01:15:48,365 --> 01:15:52,000
The slaughter was covered up.
1379
01:15:52,100 --> 01:15:55,865
Later, an ex-corporal
named Ronald Ridenhour,
1380
01:15:55,966 --> 01:15:57,632
who had heard
about what had happened
1381
01:15:57,733 --> 01:15:59,666
from several men
who had been there,
1382
01:15:59,765 --> 01:16:03,233
wrote letters to the
president of the United States,
1383
01:16:03,332 --> 01:16:05,132
the secretary of defense,
1384
01:16:05,233 --> 01:16:09,132
and more than two dozen other
high-ranking officials.
1385
01:16:09,233 --> 01:16:12,399
STAN ATKINSON:
Personally, what
decision-making process
1386
01:16:12,500 --> 01:16:15,300
did you go through before
you decided to take your action?
1387
01:16:15,399 --> 01:16:19,065
I guess I just wrestled
with my own conscience
1388
01:16:19,166 --> 01:16:21,432
to try to decide
what action to take.
1389
01:16:21,533 --> 01:16:23,565
I felt that I had
to take some action.
1390
01:16:23,666 --> 01:16:25,033
I had to do something.
1391
01:16:25,132 --> 01:16:26,365
I couldn't just...
1392
01:16:26,466 --> 01:16:29,000
just rest with this knowledge
for the rest of my life
1393
01:16:29,100 --> 01:16:31,932
that I couldn't... I couldn't
live with myself if I did.
1394
01:16:32,033 --> 01:16:34,932
NARRATOR:
President Nixon's
first reaction
1395
01:16:35,033 --> 01:16:39,166
was to investigate those
who reported the slaughter.
1396
01:16:39,265 --> 01:16:41,966
"It's those dirty rotten Jews
from New York
1397
01:16:42,065 --> 01:16:43,332
who are behind it,"
1398
01:16:43,432 --> 01:16:44,865
he told an aide.
1399
01:16:44,966 --> 01:16:49,300
Eventually, Lieutenant General
William R. Peers,
1400
01:16:49,399 --> 01:16:53,233
a veteran of 30 months as
a troop commander in Vietnam,
1401
01:16:53,332 --> 01:16:55,033
was assigned to head a panel
1402
01:16:55,132 --> 01:16:57,932
to look into
what had really happened.
1403
01:16:58,033 --> 01:17:01,166
Peers found that 30 persons,
1404
01:17:01,265 --> 01:17:03,600
including
the division commander,
1405
01:17:03,699 --> 01:17:05,932
General Samuel W. Koster,
1406
01:17:06,033 --> 01:17:08,332
had either committed atrocities
1407
01:17:08,432 --> 01:17:12,399
or had conspired
to cover them up.
1408
01:17:16,399 --> 01:17:20,132
Peers had wanted to call My Lai
a "massacre."
1409
01:17:20,233 --> 01:17:23,500
His superiors
made him use the phrase,
1410
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:27,632
"a tragedy
of major proportions."
1411
01:17:27,733 --> 01:17:33,166
In the end, the Army indicted
25 officers and men,
1412
01:17:33,265 --> 01:17:38,432
including the platoon leader,
Lieutenant William Calley.
1413
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,000
VALLELY:
Calley's a killer.
1414
01:17:43,100 --> 01:17:45,033
Calley's a murderer
1415
01:17:45,132 --> 01:17:47,399
and a... a sick person.
1416
01:17:49,500 --> 01:17:52,533
I'm not gonna be
in any, you know, uh,
1417
01:17:52,632 --> 01:17:55,065
propaganda movie for
the United States Marine Corps,
1418
01:17:55,166 --> 01:17:57,100
but we didn't have that guy.
1419
01:17:59,365 --> 01:18:01,865
We had individuals who, who...
1420
01:18:01,966 --> 01:18:03,932
who committed war crimes,
of course.
1421
01:18:04,033 --> 01:18:08,000
And, um, you know,
I wanted to kill them.
1422
01:18:08,100 --> 01:18:10,600
I sometimes wish
I did kill 'em.
1423
01:18:13,432 --> 01:18:17,199
But... I was afraid to kill 'em.
1424
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:21,533
♪ Two, one, two, three, four
1425
01:18:21,632 --> 01:18:24,332
("Give Peace a Chance"
by The Plastic Ono Band plays)
1426
01:18:24,432 --> 01:18:26,932
(loud crowd chatter)
1427
01:18:27,033 --> 01:18:28,565
♪ Everybody's talking about...
1428
01:18:28,666 --> 01:18:31,800
ZIMMERMAN:
I never considered
the Vietnamese our enemy.
1429
01:18:31,899 --> 01:18:33,500
They had never done anything
1430
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,166
to threaten the security
of the United States.
1431
01:18:36,265 --> 01:18:39,000
They were off
10,000 miles away,
1432
01:18:39,100 --> 01:18:40,832
minding their own business,
1433
01:18:40,932 --> 01:18:43,300
and we went there
to their country,
1434
01:18:43,399 --> 01:18:44,865
told them
what kind of government
1435
01:18:44,966 --> 01:18:47,233
we wanted them to have.
1436
01:18:47,332 --> 01:18:51,533
JAMES WILLBANKS:
Well, when I see
the war protesters,
1437
01:18:51,632 --> 01:18:53,399
I react on a couple of levels.
1438
01:18:53,500 --> 01:18:56,033
Intellectually, I certainly
understand their right
1439
01:18:56,132 --> 01:18:57,832
to the freedom of speech.
1440
01:18:57,932 --> 01:18:59,332
But I will tell you
1441
01:18:59,432 --> 01:19:02,399
that when I see them
waving NLF flags,
1442
01:19:02,500 --> 01:19:05,733
the enemy that I and my friends
had to fight,
1443
01:19:05,832 --> 01:19:09,033
and some of my friends
had to die fighting,
1444
01:19:09,132 --> 01:19:10,765
that doesn't sit very well
with me.
1445
01:19:10,865 --> 01:19:14,000
♪ All we are saying...
1446
01:19:14,100 --> 01:19:17,033
NARRATOR:
On November 15, 1969,
1447
01:19:17,132 --> 01:19:19,365
half a million citizens
turned out
1448
01:19:19,466 --> 01:19:22,000
against the war in Washington,
again.
1449
01:19:22,100 --> 01:19:24,399
♪ Everybody's talking
about revolution... ♪
1450
01:19:24,500 --> 01:19:27,733
NARRATOR:
This time, buses provided
an impenetrable wall
1451
01:19:27,832 --> 01:19:30,033
around the White House.
1452
01:19:30,132 --> 01:19:32,500
President Nixon claimed
he was too busy
1453
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,666
watching football on television
1454
01:19:34,765 --> 01:19:36,000
to pay attention,
1455
01:19:36,100 --> 01:19:40,533
but he did suggest that
Army helicopters might be used
1456
01:19:40,632 --> 01:19:42,533
to blow out
the marchers' candles.
1457
01:19:42,632 --> 01:19:44,632
♪ All we are saying...
1458
01:19:44,733 --> 01:19:46,166
(car horns honking)
1459
01:19:46,265 --> 01:19:48,300
NARRATOR:
Hundreds of thousands
of others demonstrated
1460
01:19:48,399 --> 01:19:51,899
in San Francisco and New York.
1461
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:53,632
(indistinct shouting)
1462
01:19:53,733 --> 01:19:56,632
(cheering and whistling,
indistinct shouting)
1463
01:19:59,166 --> 01:20:01,533
The most striking
antiwar protest
1464
01:20:01,632 --> 01:20:02,865
of this Thanksgiving Day
1465
01:20:02,966 --> 01:20:05,432
occurred not in this country,
but in Vietnam,
1466
01:20:05,533 --> 01:20:07,932
though its form was
uniquely American.
1467
01:20:08,033 --> 01:20:10,132
About 100 American soldiers
1468
01:20:10,233 --> 01:20:12,632
stationed at a hospital
in Pleiku
1469
01:20:12,733 --> 01:20:15,300
refused to eat their traditional
turkey dinner.
1470
01:20:15,399 --> 01:20:19,365
They described their fast as a
passive protest against the war.
1471
01:20:21,166 --> 01:20:23,600
("Born Under a Bad Sign" by
Booker T. and the M.G.'s plays)
1472
01:20:28,132 --> 01:20:29,800
The Army did what the Army does.
1473
01:20:29,899 --> 01:20:31,365
Every year, you know,
for Thanksgiving,
1474
01:20:31,466 --> 01:20:32,632
they make a big deal.
1475
01:20:32,733 --> 01:20:33,832
They're gonna bring in turkey,
1476
01:20:33,932 --> 01:20:35,300
they're gonna bring in
mashed potatoes,
1477
01:20:35,399 --> 01:20:37,733
and apple pie and whatever.
1478
01:20:37,832 --> 01:20:39,733
And by this point, I think,
1479
01:20:39,832 --> 01:20:42,765
a lot of us were very,
very cynical about the war
1480
01:20:42,865 --> 01:20:44,699
and what was going on.
1481
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,265
But we weren't gonna make
a big deal about it.
1482
01:20:48,365 --> 01:20:50,932
We knew there were gonna be
TV people there.
1483
01:20:51,033 --> 01:20:54,166
And a couple of the organizers
were looking for people to talk.
1484
01:20:54,265 --> 01:20:55,899
They came to me, I said, "No."
1485
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,332
I said, "Look, I'm gonna fast
and do my thing."
1486
01:20:58,432 --> 01:21:00,300
I said,
"But I, I really don't want
1487
01:21:00,399 --> 01:21:02,800
to be involved
with any media thing."
1488
01:21:02,899 --> 01:21:07,300
NARRATOR:
That Thanksgiving Day,
Lieutenant Furey was on duty
1489
01:21:07,399 --> 01:21:11,466
when one of her patients took
a sudden turn for the worse.
1490
01:21:11,565 --> 01:21:14,565
FUREY:
Some patients,
they just get into your heart.
1491
01:21:14,666 --> 01:21:16,265
And this kid,
I think he was 18.
1492
01:21:16,365 --> 01:21:17,800
His name was Timmy.
1493
01:21:17,899 --> 01:21:22,332
It was unlikely
he was gonna survive.
1494
01:21:22,432 --> 01:21:25,899
And I just got so angry.
1495
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,432
I just lost it.
1496
01:21:29,533 --> 01:21:31,632
I remember walking out
of the O.R.,
1497
01:21:31,733 --> 01:21:33,533
I ripped off the gown,
and I ripped off the mask,
1498
01:21:33,632 --> 01:21:36,899
I walked outside, I said,
"Where are those reporters?"
1499
01:21:50,033 --> 01:21:52,100
I mean, you know, you don't
demonstrate against the war
1500
01:21:52,199 --> 01:21:53,332
in a war zone.
1501
01:21:53,432 --> 01:21:56,332
By that time, of course,
you, you had the attitude,
1502
01:21:56,432 --> 01:21:58,265
"What are they gonna do?
1503
01:21:58,365 --> 01:22:00,332
Send me to Vietnam?"
1504
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:07,332
(loud, overlapping chatter
and shouting)
1505
01:22:07,432 --> 01:22:10,166
(indistinct chanting)
1506
01:22:10,265 --> 01:22:13,199
JOHN MUSGRAVE:
Let's just say that being
a Marine combat veteran
1507
01:22:13,300 --> 01:22:17,265
on a college campus
in 1969 and 1970--
1508
01:22:17,365 --> 01:22:19,132
it wasn't a real good thing
to be
1509
01:22:19,233 --> 01:22:21,300
if you wanted to get dates
and be popular.
1510
01:22:24,065 --> 01:22:27,533
When I came home,
it seemed like
1511
01:22:27,632 --> 01:22:30,966
I didn't have anything
to give to anybody else.
1512
01:22:34,332 --> 01:22:38,365
NARRATOR:
Marine Corporal John Musgrave
had very nearly died
1513
01:22:38,466 --> 01:22:43,100
in combat below the DMZ
in the autumn of 1967.
1514
01:22:43,199 --> 01:22:46,000
Wounded in the jaw
and shoulder,
1515
01:22:46,100 --> 01:22:49,865
his ribs shattered,
lung pierced, nerves cut,
1516
01:22:49,966 --> 01:22:54,300
he had spent 17 months
in Navy hospitals.
1517
01:22:54,399 --> 01:22:57,432
He was now studying
at Baker University
1518
01:22:57,533 --> 01:23:00,300
in Baldwin City, Kansas.
1519
01:23:00,399 --> 01:23:02,699
(indistinct chanting
and shouting)
1520
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:07,199
But wherever he went,
the war was never far away.
1521
01:23:09,432 --> 01:23:13,765
MUSGRAVE:
And the peace movement,
for a while, got real nasty,
1522
01:23:13,865 --> 01:23:15,865
calling veterans baby killers.
1523
01:23:17,932 --> 01:23:19,765
It did more than piss us off.
1524
01:23:19,865 --> 01:23:21,699
It broke our hearts.
1525
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:24,065
What were they thinking?
1526
01:23:24,166 --> 01:23:29,432
You don't turn your backs
on your warriors.
1527
01:23:29,533 --> 01:23:32,065
I didn't trust anybody anymore.
1528
01:23:33,533 --> 01:23:35,765
Just my family.
1529
01:23:35,865 --> 01:23:38,332
NARRATOR:
Musgrave was so hurt
1530
01:23:38,432 --> 01:23:40,432
by the way
some people treated him
1531
01:23:40,533 --> 01:23:43,865
that he volunteered
to return to Vietnam.
1532
01:23:43,966 --> 01:23:47,600
Because of his injuries,
the Marines turned him down,
1533
01:23:47,699 --> 01:23:51,632
and asked him
to help recruit men instead.
1534
01:23:51,733 --> 01:23:53,666
He did for a time,
1535
01:23:53,765 --> 01:23:56,765
but when students asked him
questions about the war
1536
01:23:56,865 --> 01:23:58,632
he couldn't answer,
1537
01:23:58,733 --> 01:23:59,832
he also began to read
1538
01:23:59,932 --> 01:24:04,265
about how and why
it was being fought.
1539
01:24:04,365 --> 01:24:08,033
MUSGRAVE:
I had friends in country
on a second tour,
1540
01:24:08,132 --> 01:24:11,233
and, you know, I, I was still...
considered myself a Marine.
1541
01:24:11,332 --> 01:24:14,132
and... and the more I read,
1542
01:24:14,233 --> 01:24:19,466
the less I found to be able
to defend our presence there.
1543
01:24:19,565 --> 01:24:23,600
So then, I, I just stopped
talking to everybody.
1544
01:24:23,699 --> 01:24:25,733
(dog barking)
1545
01:24:25,832 --> 01:24:29,800
NARRATOR:
Musgrave gradually felt as if
he were being torn in two.
1546
01:24:29,899 --> 01:24:33,733
And he was still haunted
by the memory of those Marines
1547
01:24:33,832 --> 01:24:38,399
who had died while he had lived.
1548
01:24:38,500 --> 01:24:41,632
MUSGRAVE:
I was dating my .45
in those years, you know.
1549
01:24:41,733 --> 01:24:44,432
Coming home at night
after drinking,
1550
01:24:44,533 --> 01:24:46,565
and pressing it up
against my temple,
1551
01:24:46,666 --> 01:24:49,565
or putting it under my chin,
1552
01:24:49,666 --> 01:24:51,966
wondering if this was gonna be
the night
1553
01:24:52,065 --> 01:24:54,065
I was gonna have the guts
to do it.
1554
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:57,865
I'd had a round chambered,
and I'd taken the safety off.
1555
01:24:57,966 --> 01:25:00,265
Same kind of pistol
I carried in Vietnam.
1556
01:25:02,865 --> 01:25:06,199
And I thought, "I'm really gonna
do it tonight."
1557
01:25:06,300 --> 01:25:10,100
You know, like, "Whew, I'm
really gonna do it," you know.
1558
01:25:10,199 --> 01:25:12,132
And my dogs...
I'd let my dogs out.
1559
01:25:12,233 --> 01:25:13,765
I had two dogs.
1560
01:25:13,865 --> 01:25:15,399
And they jumped
on the front door
1561
01:25:15,500 --> 01:25:16,800
and scratched on the front door.
1562
01:25:16,899 --> 01:25:18,666
They wanted in.
1563
01:25:18,765 --> 01:25:19,865
And I put the safety
back on the pistol
1564
01:25:19,966 --> 01:25:21,733
and set it down
and went and let 'em in.
1565
01:25:23,565 --> 01:25:26,233
And they were so open
in their love for me
1566
01:25:26,332 --> 01:25:28,000
that I literally said out loud,
1567
01:25:28,100 --> 01:25:33,265
"Whoa, if I really want to do
this, I can do this tomorrow."
1568
01:25:33,365 --> 01:25:34,666
And I went back in the room,
1569
01:25:34,765 --> 01:25:36,632
and I put the pistol
in the drawer, and...
1570
01:25:36,733 --> 01:25:39,666
and I... I think
that was the closest I came.
1571
01:25:39,765 --> 01:25:41,399
I think maybe
I would have killed...
1572
01:25:41,500 --> 01:25:43,733
k-k-killed myself that night.
1573
01:25:43,832 --> 01:25:45,199
But something as simple
1574
01:25:45,300 --> 01:25:47,800
as my dogs wanting back in...
1575
01:25:47,899 --> 01:25:51,166
stopped that thought, you know.
1576
01:25:53,899 --> 01:25:56,899
I'm really glad
that it didn't happen.
1577
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,233
But at the time,
it just made so much sense.
1578
01:26:05,100 --> 01:26:07,033
NARRATOR:
Richard Nixon's
troop withdrawals
1579
01:26:07,132 --> 01:26:10,332
finally turned Musgrave
against the war.
1580
01:26:10,432 --> 01:26:13,166
"If it ain't worth winning,"
he said,
1581
01:26:13,265 --> 01:26:15,565
"it ain't worth dying for."
1582
01:26:15,666 --> 01:26:18,265
His loyalty to the Marines
1583
01:26:18,365 --> 01:26:21,233
would not yet let him
openly say that,
1584
01:26:21,332 --> 01:26:23,800
but he told a campus
antiwar meeting
1585
01:26:23,899 --> 01:26:26,733
that they should stop acting
as if they didn't give a damn
1586
01:26:26,832 --> 01:26:29,632
about the men
who had been asked to fight,
1587
01:26:29,733 --> 01:26:32,065
and received
a standing ovation.
1588
01:26:36,300 --> 01:26:38,632
JACK TODD:
The turning point for me,
I think,
1589
01:26:38,733 --> 01:26:41,733
was one evening I spent
with my friend Sonny Walter,
1590
01:26:41,832 --> 01:26:44,365
who had been, uh... just been
discharged from the Army,
1591
01:26:44,466 --> 01:26:47,033
and had come home
and spent an evening
1592
01:26:47,132 --> 01:26:49,733
before I went in
pleading with me not to go.
1593
01:26:49,832 --> 01:26:52,399
He even offered
to drive me to Canada.
1594
01:26:52,500 --> 01:26:55,065
He was showing me some
horrible pictures of Vietnam
1595
01:26:55,166 --> 01:26:56,899
from his own service there.
1596
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:00,800
I think everything
that happened after it
1597
01:27:00,899 --> 01:27:02,432
had its seeds in that evening.
1598
01:27:02,533 --> 01:27:04,533
("The Thrill is Gone"
by B.B. King playing)
1599
01:27:04,632 --> 01:27:07,932
NARRATOR:
While attending
the University of Nebraska,
1600
01:27:08,033 --> 01:27:11,832
Jack Todd had undergone
Marine officer training,
1601
01:27:11,932 --> 01:27:15,332
but bad knees
had forced him to drop out
1602
01:27:15,432 --> 01:27:17,500
and he believed
that exempted him
1603
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,166
from having to take part
in a war
1604
01:27:20,265 --> 01:27:22,832
he had come to see as immoral.
1605
01:27:22,932 --> 01:27:27,000
He began work as a reporter
onThe Miami Herald.
1606
01:27:27,100 --> 01:27:31,733
But in the autumn of 1969
he received a draft notice
1607
01:27:31,832 --> 01:27:34,100
from the Army anyway.
1608
01:27:34,199 --> 01:27:35,565
KING:
♪ The thrill is gone
1609
01:27:35,666 --> 01:27:37,033
TODD:
So I went into my physical
1610
01:27:37,132 --> 01:27:39,166
and I showed them my discharge
from the Marine Corps
1611
01:27:39,265 --> 01:27:40,966
and I actually remember
a sergeant,
1612
01:27:41,065 --> 01:27:42,399
or whoever
I was talking to, saying,
1613
01:27:42,500 --> 01:27:44,666
"But, uh, you were discharged
from an officer program.
1614
01:27:44,765 --> 01:27:46,233
We're drafting you
as a private."
1615
01:27:46,332 --> 01:27:48,399
(electric buzzing)
1616
01:27:48,500 --> 01:27:50,932
NARRATOR:
In late November 1969,
1617
01:27:51,033 --> 01:27:55,365
Todd reported for basic training
at Fort Lewis, Washington.
1618
01:27:55,466 --> 01:27:57,399
KING:
♪ You know you done me wrong
1619
01:27:57,500 --> 01:27:59,466
TODD:
Morale just could
not have been worse.
1620
01:27:59,565 --> 01:28:01,432
And-and it seemed to include
1621
01:28:01,533 --> 01:28:04,365
even the sergeants
and the officers.
1622
01:28:04,466 --> 01:28:08,365
Nobody wanted to go.
Nobody wanted to go.
1623
01:28:08,466 --> 01:28:11,800
America just seemed to have
shifted from the Woodstock high
1624
01:28:11,899 --> 01:28:13,000
of the summer to this...
1625
01:28:13,100 --> 01:28:16,265
this sort of bitter
Nixonian low.
1626
01:28:16,365 --> 01:28:19,733
NARRATOR:
Jack Todd and another member
of his unit
1627
01:28:19,832 --> 01:28:22,800
began to talk at night
about what it meant
1628
01:28:22,899 --> 01:28:24,466
to be true to one's conscience.
1629
01:28:24,565 --> 01:28:26,466
("Farewell, Angelina"
by Bob Dylan playing)
1630
01:28:28,699 --> 01:28:31,100
Some 170,000 men
1631
01:28:31,199 --> 01:28:33,533
were granted
conscientious objector status
1632
01:28:33,632 --> 01:28:36,132
during the Vietnam era.
1633
01:28:36,233 --> 01:28:37,932
But because Jack Todd
1634
01:28:38,033 --> 01:28:40,233
questioned
the existence of God,
1635
01:28:40,332 --> 01:28:44,000
that avenue was closed to him.
1636
01:28:44,100 --> 01:28:45,365
There were really two choices.
1637
01:28:45,466 --> 01:28:47,233
It was go to jail
or go to Canada.
1638
01:28:47,332 --> 01:28:49,865
And, for me,
going to jail was just...
1639
01:28:49,966 --> 01:28:51,865
That one, I couldn't face.
1640
01:28:51,966 --> 01:28:53,865
So I went to Canada.
1641
01:28:53,966 --> 01:28:57,666
DYLAN:
♪ Farewell, Angelina
1642
01:28:57,765 --> 01:29:01,699
♪ The bells of the crown
1643
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,966
TODD:
I remember
that last beautiful drive,
1644
01:29:04,065 --> 01:29:06,600
from Seattle to Vancouver,
1645
01:29:06,699 --> 01:29:11,233
all the towering Douglas firs
along the road.
1646
01:29:11,332 --> 01:29:13,533
And I remember,
after we crossed the border--
1647
01:29:13,632 --> 01:29:16,132
it was a breeze, they just
sort of waved us through--
1648
01:29:16,233 --> 01:29:18,365
and just looking in the
rearview mirror, thinking,
1649
01:29:18,466 --> 01:29:19,733
"Man, there goes my country.
1650
01:29:19,832 --> 01:29:22,865
I'll never see it again."
1651
01:29:22,966 --> 01:29:26,065
DYLAN:
♪ But farewell, Angelina
1652
01:29:26,166 --> 01:29:29,399
♪ The night is on fire
1653
01:29:29,500 --> 01:29:31,399
♪ And I must go
1654
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,432
I get called a coward
all the time.
1655
01:29:36,533 --> 01:29:39,632
It took me a long time
1656
01:29:39,733 --> 01:29:42,199
not to feel
that what I had done
1657
01:29:42,300 --> 01:29:44,899
was-was cowardly,
because I still had
1658
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:48,466
that military ingrained
feeling inside.
1659
01:29:50,065 --> 01:29:53,166
That was the bravest thing
I ever did.
1660
01:29:53,265 --> 01:29:55,265
It was
the bravest thing I ever did.
1661
01:29:58,033 --> 01:30:01,632
NARRATOR:
Jack Todd eventually found work
as a reporter,
1662
01:30:01,733 --> 01:30:04,733
which allowed him to gain
"landed immigrant status,"
1663
01:30:04,832 --> 01:30:08,166
a step toward
Canadian citizenship.
1664
01:30:08,265 --> 01:30:12,765
Only a quarter of the estimated
30,000 Americans
1665
01:30:12,865 --> 01:30:15,699
who crossed into Canada
managed to do so.
1666
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:18,033
DYLAN:
♪ The sky is erupting
1667
01:30:18,132 --> 01:30:21,832
♪ And I must go
where it is quiet. ♪
1668
01:30:21,932 --> 01:30:25,132
NARRATOR:
At the same time,
some 30,000 Canadians
1669
01:30:25,233 --> 01:30:28,699
would volunteer to fight
in Vietnam.
1670
01:30:42,199 --> 01:30:43,765
(birds chirping in distance)
1671
01:30:47,533 --> 01:30:50,832
KUSHNER:
I thought about...
1672
01:30:50,932 --> 01:30:52,899
my parents and my siblings
1673
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:56,632
and my wife and my little girl.
1674
01:30:56,733 --> 01:31:00,166
And one of the things
that bothered me, is that I...
1675
01:31:00,265 --> 01:31:04,966
I couldn't really remember what
they looked like after a while.
1676
01:31:05,065 --> 01:31:07,432
I remembered what
their pictures looked like.
1677
01:31:07,533 --> 01:31:11,932
And when I imaged them
in my mind's eye
1678
01:31:12,033 --> 01:31:15,500
I would image a picture,
a photograph.
1679
01:31:18,166 --> 01:31:19,466
REPORTER:
Valerie Kushner arrived
on the...
1680
01:31:19,565 --> 01:31:21,666
NARRATOR:
Hal Kushner's wife, Valerie,
1681
01:31:21,765 --> 01:31:23,865
had heard virtually nothing
of her husband
1682
01:31:23,966 --> 01:31:27,666
since his capture
by the Viet Cong in 1967,
1683
01:31:27,765 --> 01:31:30,399
and she had traveled
to the Far East
1684
01:31:30,500 --> 01:31:32,865
to try to improve
conditions for him.
1685
01:31:32,966 --> 01:31:36,265
I think my period
of greatest frustration
1686
01:31:36,365 --> 01:31:39,265
was just before and just after
the birth of our son.
1687
01:31:39,365 --> 01:31:41,932
He was born in April of 1968
1688
01:31:42,033 --> 01:31:45,899
and my husband was captured
in November of 1967.
1689
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:49,832
So my husband does not yet
know of his birth.
1690
01:31:49,932 --> 01:31:52,100
DON FARMER:
With their father gone,
the Kushner children
1691
01:31:52,199 --> 01:31:55,300
rely heavily on their
mother and their grandparents.
1692
01:31:55,399 --> 01:31:56,865
Young Mike has never
seen his father,
1693
01:31:56,966 --> 01:31:59,300
but six-year-old
Toni-Jean remembers.
1694
01:31:59,399 --> 01:32:00,932
And the remembrances
of Major Kushner
1695
01:32:01,033 --> 01:32:02,699
are everywhere in their house.
1696
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:04,899
Toni, however,
knows only that he's away,
1697
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:06,632
that he's been captured,
that grandfather fills in
1698
01:32:06,733 --> 01:32:08,000
until Dad comes home.
1699
01:32:08,100 --> 01:32:11,966
The Kushners worry,
but they do not grieve.
1700
01:32:12,065 --> 01:32:14,033
Don Farmer,
ABC News, reporting.
1701
01:32:16,899 --> 01:32:18,800
(siren wailing in distance)
1702
01:32:20,932 --> 01:32:23,033
NARRATOR:
In February 1970,
1703
01:32:23,132 --> 01:32:26,265
in a house in an industrial
suburb of Paris,
1704
01:32:26,365 --> 01:32:28,865
Henry Kissinger
began a new series
1705
01:32:28,966 --> 01:32:32,432
of secret negotiations--
talks so secret
1706
01:32:32,533 --> 01:32:36,699
even the secretary of state
was not told about them.
1707
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:38,832
His negotiating partner
1708
01:32:38,932 --> 01:32:42,666
would be Le Duan's close
political ally, Le Duc Tho,
1709
01:32:42,765 --> 01:32:46,300
a veteran of 40 years
of revolutionary warfare
1710
01:32:46,399 --> 01:32:50,233
and party intrigue--
shrewd, implacable,
1711
01:32:50,332 --> 01:32:54,033
and openly scornful
of Vietnamization.
1712
01:32:54,132 --> 01:32:56,800
If the United States
could not win
1713
01:32:56,899 --> 01:33:00,100
with half a million of its own
troops, he asked Kissinger,
1714
01:33:00,199 --> 01:33:02,865
"How can you succeed
when you let your puppet troops
1715
01:33:02,966 --> 01:33:05,265
do the fighting?"
1716
01:33:05,365 --> 01:33:08,565
The American admitted
he had no answer.
1717
01:33:14,332 --> 01:33:16,533
Despite the impasse in Paris,
1718
01:33:16,632 --> 01:33:20,233
Nixon's first year
had been a triumph.
1719
01:33:20,332 --> 01:33:26,399
He had withdrawn
115,000 troops from Vietnam.
1720
01:33:27,733 --> 01:33:30,932
American casualty figures
were down.
1721
01:33:31,033 --> 01:33:33,600
Reduced draft calls
1722
01:33:33,699 --> 01:33:35,832
and the president's
new lottery system
1723
01:33:35,932 --> 01:33:39,000
had blunted some opposition
to the war.
1724
01:33:41,865 --> 01:33:44,332
And the violent actions
of some revolutionaries
1725
01:33:44,432 --> 01:33:48,033
were tarnishing
the antiwar cause itself.
1726
01:33:48,132 --> 01:33:52,000
Between September 1969
and May 1970,
1727
01:33:52,100 --> 01:33:54,699
there would be
hundreds of bombings--
1728
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:56,632
banks and courthouses,
1729
01:33:56,733 --> 01:33:59,899
induction centers
and ROTC buildings.
1730
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:01,865
("Psychedelic Shack" by
The Temptations starts playing)
1731
01:34:01,966 --> 01:34:03,865
One police officer was killed.
1732
01:34:05,100 --> 01:34:06,500
Three would-be bombers
1733
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,300
accidentally blew themselves up
in Greenwich Village.
1734
01:34:10,399 --> 01:34:12,565
TEMPTATIONS:
♪ Well, well
1735
01:34:12,666 --> 01:34:16,600
NANCY BIBERMAN:
The antiwar movement split
apart.
1736
01:34:16,699 --> 01:34:19,466
And there were people who felt
that the only way
1737
01:34:19,565 --> 01:34:23,300
we were ever gonna end the war
was by becoming more violent.
1738
01:34:23,399 --> 01:34:26,233
You know, that we had to match
violence with violence.
1739
01:34:26,332 --> 01:34:31,065
How that was gonna happen
wasn't spoken about openly.
1740
01:34:31,166 --> 01:34:33,800
But there was just
this undercurrent.
1741
01:34:33,899 --> 01:34:36,166
This is a plumbing pipe
1742
01:34:36,265 --> 01:34:39,699
completely full of gunpowder.
1743
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:41,932
TEMPTATIONS:
♪ Music so high
you can't get over it ♪
1744
01:34:42,033 --> 01:34:44,432
NIXON:
My fellow Americans,
1745
01:34:44,533 --> 01:34:47,100
we live in an age of anarchy,
1746
01:34:47,199 --> 01:34:49,733
both abroad and at home.
1747
01:34:51,233 --> 01:34:56,199
We see mindless attacks
on all the great institutions,
1748
01:34:56,300 --> 01:34:58,666
which have been created
by free civilizations
1749
01:34:58,765 --> 01:35:01,432
in the last 500 years.
1750
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:04,932
Even here in the United States,
1751
01:35:05,033 --> 01:35:08,632
great universities are being
systematically destroyed.
1752
01:35:12,666 --> 01:35:15,399
If, when the chips are down,
1753
01:35:15,500 --> 01:35:18,000
the world's
most powerful nation,
1754
01:35:18,100 --> 01:35:19,800
the United States of America,
1755
01:35:19,899 --> 01:35:24,765
acts like a pitiful,
helpless giant,
1756
01:35:24,865 --> 01:35:28,565
the forces of totalitarianism
and anarchy
1757
01:35:28,666 --> 01:35:31,332
will threaten free nations
and free institutions
1758
01:35:31,432 --> 01:35:33,000
throughout the world.
1759
01:35:33,100 --> 01:35:37,065
NARRATOR:
On April 30, 1970,
1760
01:35:37,166 --> 01:35:38,932
President Nixon
shocked the world
1761
01:35:39,033 --> 01:35:42,100
by announcing that he had sent
30,000 American troops
1762
01:35:42,199 --> 01:35:45,832
storming into Cambodia.
1763
01:35:45,932 --> 01:35:49,000
The previous month,
Prince Norodom Sihanouk
1764
01:35:49,100 --> 01:35:51,300
had been overthrown in a coup.
1765
01:35:51,399 --> 01:35:53,733
For years, he had allowed
the North Vietnamese
1766
01:35:53,832 --> 01:35:56,399
to keep sanctuaries
in his country,
1767
01:35:56,500 --> 01:35:58,432
but he had not protested
1768
01:35:58,533 --> 01:36:02,033
when American planes
bombed them.
1769
01:36:02,132 --> 01:36:04,733
The new president, Lon Nol,
1770
01:36:04,832 --> 01:36:08,699
was an anticommunist,
backed by the United States.
1771
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:11,100
Nixon now felt he could do
1772
01:36:11,199 --> 01:36:14,832
what American generals had been
wanting to do for years--
1773
01:36:14,932 --> 01:36:18,699
pursue the enemy beyond
the borders of South Vietnam.
1774
01:36:20,199 --> 01:36:23,033
The 30,000 American troops
1775
01:36:23,132 --> 01:36:28,300
were joined by 50,000
ARVN soldiers.
1776
01:36:28,399 --> 01:36:30,332
The objective was to attack
1777
01:36:30,432 --> 01:36:33,100
North Vietnamese
base camps and supply lines
1778
01:36:33,199 --> 01:36:36,399
and to buy time
for the South Vietnamese Army
1779
01:36:36,500 --> 01:36:38,899
as it got ready to fight
on its own.
1780
01:36:40,899 --> 01:36:43,166
Nixon told the public
1781
01:36:43,265 --> 01:36:46,832
he had ordered an "incursion,"
not an "invasion,"
1782
01:36:46,932 --> 01:36:51,466
intended only to protect
American boys in South Vietnam
1783
01:36:51,565 --> 01:36:55,733
and in response to North
Vietnamese "aggression."
1784
01:36:58,632 --> 01:37:02,500
GILLAM:
I wasn't worried
about political conflict.
1785
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:05,233
I was worried about,
"Am I gonna be alive
1786
01:37:05,332 --> 01:37:06,800
in the next ten minutes?"
1787
01:37:08,399 --> 01:37:11,733
We were on the Western edge
of the invasion.
1788
01:37:11,832 --> 01:37:15,100
We went as far
as anybody went in Cambodia.
1789
01:37:15,199 --> 01:37:16,365
(gunfire)
1790
01:37:16,466 --> 01:37:17,865
And it was a hot LZ.
1791
01:37:17,966 --> 01:37:22,666
I got holes shot in my backpack.
1792
01:37:22,765 --> 01:37:24,166
I was laying on my face
1793
01:37:24,265 --> 01:37:26,399
and they were shooting holes
in my backpack,
1794
01:37:26,500 --> 01:37:29,466
which means they missed my head
by maybe four inches.
1795
01:37:31,365 --> 01:37:34,699
I really didn't think I would
see the end of that week.
1796
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:36,966
(gunfire)
1797
01:37:37,065 --> 01:37:38,966
(indistinct chatter on radio)
1798
01:37:41,100 --> 01:37:44,632
NARRATOR:
The sight of American troops
crossing the border
1799
01:37:44,733 --> 01:37:48,666
into Cambodia reignited
the antiwar movement.
1800
01:37:48,765 --> 01:37:49,966
Come on, let's go!
1801
01:37:50,065 --> 01:37:52,166
NARRATOR:
If the troops were coming home,
1802
01:37:52,265 --> 01:37:54,300
if the war was winding down,
1803
01:37:54,399 --> 01:37:58,300
why had Nixon decided
to widen it?
1804
01:37:58,399 --> 01:38:01,199
How could invading
another country
1805
01:38:01,300 --> 01:38:05,166
help bring peace
to Southeast Asia?
1806
01:38:05,265 --> 01:38:06,966
HUNTLEY:
The reaction on the campuses
1807
01:38:07,065 --> 01:38:08,565
was swift and predictable.
1808
01:38:08,666 --> 01:38:10,265
The students
and many of their teachers
1809
01:38:10,365 --> 01:38:11,865
were against the president.
1810
01:38:11,966 --> 01:38:15,132
Princeton students called
for a nationwide student strike.
1811
01:38:15,233 --> 01:38:18,932
Antiwar rallies were planned
at Harvard, MIT, Indiana,
1812
01:38:19,033 --> 01:38:21,166
Purdue Universities
and other colleges.
1813
01:38:26,432 --> 01:38:29,666
NARRATOR:
On Monday morning,
May 4, 1970,
1814
01:38:29,765 --> 01:38:32,265
some 2,000 students
gathered on the commons
1815
01:38:32,365 --> 01:38:36,132
at Kent State University
in Kent, Ohio.
1816
01:38:36,233 --> 01:38:39,966
Some were simply
moving from class to class.
1817
01:38:40,065 --> 01:38:43,466
Others planned to attend
a rally called to protest
1818
01:38:43,565 --> 01:38:46,166
Nixon's widening of the war
1819
01:38:46,265 --> 01:38:52,033
and the presence of the Ohio
National Guard on campus.
1820
01:38:52,132 --> 01:38:55,166
Governor James Rhodes
had called in the guardsmen
1821
01:38:55,265 --> 01:38:56,632
two days earlier
1822
01:38:56,733 --> 01:39:02,199
after a mob set the old wooden
ROTC building on fire
1823
01:39:02,300 --> 01:39:04,199
and then prevented
the fire department
1824
01:39:04,300 --> 01:39:06,666
from putting out the flames.
1825
01:39:09,632 --> 01:39:13,666
Rhodes had compared protestors
to Nazi brownshirts
1826
01:39:13,765 --> 01:39:17,199
and promised to use
"every weapon to eradicate
1827
01:39:17,300 --> 01:39:21,533
the worst sort of people
we harbor in America."
1828
01:39:21,632 --> 01:39:23,533
(bell clanging)
1829
01:39:26,166 --> 01:39:31,399
The guardsmen's weapons were
loaded with live ammunition,
1830
01:39:31,500 --> 01:39:33,233
though no one in the crowd
knew it.
1831
01:39:33,332 --> 01:39:36,500
MAN:
Why do you have to have a gun?!
I don't understand!
1832
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:39,466
MAN (on megaphone):
Leave this area immediately!
1833
01:39:39,565 --> 01:39:43,332
NARRATOR:
The students were ordered
to disperse.
1834
01:39:43,432 --> 01:39:45,065
They stood their ground.
1835
01:39:45,166 --> 01:39:47,065
(shouting)
1836
01:39:51,166 --> 01:39:54,332
Tear gas scattered some
of them.
1837
01:39:54,432 --> 01:39:56,332
(shouting)
1838
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:17,466
The guardsmen seemed
to fall back.
1839
01:40:17,565 --> 01:40:21,666
But then members of Troop G
wheeled around and opened fire
1840
01:40:21,765 --> 01:40:25,800
on students gathered in
and around a parking lot.
1841
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:30,600
(distorted gunshots echoing)
1842
01:40:57,265 --> 01:40:59,432
PROTESTOR:
Somebody call for an ambulance!
1843
01:40:59,533 --> 01:41:01,100
(others shouting)
1844
01:41:01,199 --> 01:41:04,166
There's people dying down here!
Get an ambulance up here!
1845
01:41:04,265 --> 01:41:06,166
(indistinct shouting)
1846
01:41:10,832 --> 01:41:14,199
NARRATOR:
67 rounds in 13 seconds
1847
01:41:14,300 --> 01:41:18,699
killed two young women
and two young men...
1848
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:24,765
Including
an ROTC scholarship student
1849
01:41:24,865 --> 01:41:27,332
who had simply been
an onlooker.
1850
01:41:33,033 --> 01:41:37,733
SAM HYNES:
That dead child on the ground
1851
01:41:37,832 --> 01:41:41,132
was one of ours.
1852
01:41:41,233 --> 01:41:44,533
If we could kill
our own students,
1853
01:41:44,632 --> 01:41:49,733
uh, what had happened
to our country?
1854
01:41:51,832 --> 01:41:54,699
NARRATOR:
Nine more students
were wounded,
1855
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:58,765
one of whom
was permanently paralyzed.
1856
01:42:11,132 --> 01:42:15,500
Several hundred angry,
grieving students sat down
1857
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:17,632
and demanded to know
why the guardsmen
1858
01:42:17,733 --> 01:42:19,632
had fired on their friends.
1859
01:42:23,132 --> 01:42:25,966
MAN:
Sir, you've got
a couple hundred students...
1860
01:42:26,065 --> 01:42:27,432
NARRATOR:
An officer ordered them
1861
01:42:27,533 --> 01:42:29,300
to "disperse
or we will shoot again."
1862
01:42:29,399 --> 01:42:32,300
How long will you give us?
You've got five minutes.
1863
01:42:32,399 --> 01:42:35,300
GLENN FRANK:
Please listen to me right now!
1864
01:42:35,399 --> 01:42:37,899
NARRATOR:
Only the anguished pleas
1865
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:42,565
of geology professor Glenn Frank
averted further tragedy.
1866
01:42:42,666 --> 01:42:44,365
STUDENT:
Talk, Dr. Frank. Talk.
1867
01:43:01,899 --> 01:43:05,033
(indistinct voices)
1868
01:43:09,765 --> 01:43:12,600
MIKE HEANEY:
That just symbolized for me
1869
01:43:12,699 --> 01:43:16,565
what this war was doing
to our culture.
1870
01:43:16,666 --> 01:43:18,432
These were kids on both sides,
1871
01:43:18,533 --> 01:43:21,300
young National Guard boys
1872
01:43:21,399 --> 01:43:24,666
who had very little training
and probably scared,
1873
01:43:24,765 --> 01:43:26,899
and not well led
1874
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:28,765
and-and young men and women
on the other side
1875
01:43:28,865 --> 01:43:30,365
protesting the war out there
1876
01:43:30,466 --> 01:43:32,699
for, you know,
idealistic reasons.
1877
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:35,332
And look at what happens
1878
01:43:35,432 --> 01:43:41,466
when we let things get as bad
as they got.
1879
01:43:41,565 --> 01:43:43,199
("Woodstock" by Joni Mitchell
playing)
1880
01:43:43,300 --> 01:43:45,865
NARRATOR:
According to one national poll,
1881
01:43:45,966 --> 01:43:48,733
58% of the American people
1882
01:43:48,832 --> 01:43:51,666
thought the killings justified.
1883
01:43:54,632 --> 01:43:57,865
The parents
of the dead ROTC student
1884
01:43:57,966 --> 01:44:00,600
received a flood of hate mail,
1885
01:44:00,699 --> 01:44:04,065
suggesting that they should be
grateful their boy was dead
1886
01:44:04,166 --> 01:44:08,733
since he'd been
"just another communist."
1887
01:44:09,865 --> 01:44:13,832
(man speaking indistinctly
over megaphone)
1888
01:44:13,932 --> 01:44:17,432
During the days that followed,
all across the country,
1889
01:44:17,533 --> 01:44:20,100
more than four million
college students
1890
01:44:20,199 --> 01:44:22,100
demonstrated against the war
1891
01:44:22,199 --> 01:44:25,132
and what had happened
at Kent State.
1892
01:44:27,666 --> 01:44:31,632
MITCHELL:
♪ I came upon a child of God
1893
01:44:31,733 --> 01:44:36,233
♪ He was walking
along the road ♪
1894
01:44:36,332 --> 01:44:38,199
♪ And I asked him
1895
01:44:38,300 --> 01:44:40,500
♪ Where are you going?
1896
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:44,466
♪ And this he told me
1897
01:44:44,565 --> 01:44:49,233
NARRATOR:
448 campuses closed down,
1898
01:44:49,332 --> 01:44:54,899
and the National Guard
was called out in 16 states.
1899
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:56,233
MITCHELL:
♪ Band
1900
01:44:56,332 --> 01:44:58,365
♪ I'm gonna camp out
1901
01:44:58,466 --> 01:45:02,033
NARRATOR:
At Jackson State University
in Mississippi,
1902
01:45:02,132 --> 01:45:06,300
state police opened fire
on a dormitory.
1903
01:45:06,399 --> 01:45:08,233
Two students died.
1904
01:45:08,332 --> 01:45:11,233
12 more were wounded.
1905
01:45:13,233 --> 01:45:15,265
Jackson State,
those were my people.
1906
01:45:15,365 --> 01:45:17,199
Those were black kids.
1907
01:45:17,300 --> 01:45:19,533
And they died.
1908
01:45:19,632 --> 01:45:23,033
MITCHELL:
♪ Back to the garden
1909
01:45:23,132 --> 01:45:25,432
NARRATOR:
Army private Tim O'Brien
1910
01:45:25,533 --> 01:45:29,233
was now back home in Minnesota.
1911
01:45:29,332 --> 01:45:32,800
O'BRIEN:
There was a huge march
1912
01:45:32,899 --> 01:45:34,699
after the Kent State shootings
in St. Paul,
1913
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:37,065
and I joined the march.
1914
01:45:37,166 --> 01:45:42,332
I just wanted to put my body
amidst these 100,000 people,
1915
01:45:42,432 --> 01:45:45,600
that word "no" being uttered
by my body, if not by my mouth,
1916
01:45:45,699 --> 01:45:47,100
by just making that march.
1917
01:45:47,199 --> 01:45:50,699
That same march
I was doing in Vietnam
1918
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:53,065
that seemed senseless
and purposeless
1919
01:45:53,166 --> 01:45:54,300
and without direction,
1920
01:45:54,399 --> 01:45:57,233
here it felt sensible
and purposeful
1921
01:45:57,332 --> 01:46:00,666
and with direction,
heading for that state capital
1922
01:46:00,765 --> 01:46:04,065
to say no.
1923
01:46:04,166 --> 01:46:07,365
And, boy, did it feel good.
1924
01:46:07,466 --> 01:46:09,365
(chanting "Peace now")
1925
01:46:12,300 --> 01:46:14,132
NARRATOR:
Marine Corporal Bill Ehrhart
1926
01:46:14,233 --> 01:46:16,666
was a student
at Swarthmore College
1927
01:46:16,765 --> 01:46:20,832
near his hometown
in eastern Pennsylvania.
1928
01:46:20,932 --> 01:46:25,365
EHRHART:
And here's
this very famous photograph.
1929
01:46:25,466 --> 01:46:28,300
And I just looked
at this thing.
1930
01:46:32,565 --> 01:46:34,065
And I came unglued.
1931
01:46:36,332 --> 01:46:39,699
I don't know
how long I sat down on the curb,
1932
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:43,233
and I don't know
if I was there for 15 minutes
1933
01:46:43,332 --> 01:46:44,765
or an hour and a half.
1934
01:46:44,865 --> 01:46:47,100
Just had a breakdown.
1935
01:46:47,199 --> 01:46:50,865
Just crying,
sobbing uncontrollably.
1936
01:46:50,966 --> 01:46:52,733
All I could think was,
"It's not enough to send us
1937
01:46:52,832 --> 01:46:55,166
"halfway around
the world to die.
1938
01:46:55,265 --> 01:46:58,033
"Now they're killing us in
the streets of our own country.
1939
01:46:58,132 --> 01:46:59,500
I have to do something."
1940
01:47:01,533 --> 01:47:02,666
And I finally...
1941
01:47:02,765 --> 01:47:04,565
whenever
I finally cried myself out,
1942
01:47:04,666 --> 01:47:07,132
I got up and I joined
the antiwar movement.
1943
01:47:10,399 --> 01:47:14,765
MUSGRAVE:
I remember when the kids were
killed at Kent State,
1944
01:47:14,865 --> 01:47:17,565
and I thought,
1945
01:47:17,666 --> 01:47:20,832
"My God, we're killing
our own children now.
1946
01:47:20,932 --> 01:47:22,666
We've really gone mad."
1947
01:47:22,765 --> 01:47:24,065
And I wasn't...
1948
01:47:24,166 --> 01:47:27,065
That's when I was hiding
from things.
1949
01:47:27,166 --> 01:47:29,100
I wasn't
in anybody's movement then.
1950
01:47:29,199 --> 01:47:30,865
I was just drinking.
1951
01:47:32,966 --> 01:47:38,300
But that was one of the things
that told me
1952
01:47:38,399 --> 01:47:40,699
America needed a wake-up call.
1953
01:47:47,733 --> 01:47:50,865
("Ohio" by Crosby, Stills,
Nash & Young playing)
1954
01:48:13,932 --> 01:48:16,765
♪ Tin soldiers
and Nixon's coming ♪
1955
01:48:16,865 --> 01:48:19,733
♪ We're finally on our own
1956
01:48:19,832 --> 01:48:23,166
♪ This summer
I hear the drumming ♪
1957
01:48:23,265 --> 01:48:26,932
♪ Four dead in Ohio
1958
01:48:27,033 --> 01:48:29,733
♪ Got to get down to it
1959
01:48:29,832 --> 01:48:33,132
♪ Soldiers are cutting us down
1960
01:48:33,233 --> 01:48:36,865
♪ Should have been done
long ago ♪
1961
01:48:39,399 --> 01:48:40,966
♪ What if you knew her
1962
01:48:41,065 --> 01:48:44,699
♪ And found her dead
on the ground? ♪
1963
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:48,899
♪ How can you run
when you know? ♪
1964
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:50,899
♪
1965
01:49:09,932 --> 01:49:12,332
♪ La la-la-la,
la la la la ♪
1966
01:49:12,432 --> 01:49:16,199
♪ La la-la-la,
la la la ♪
1967
01:49:16,300 --> 01:49:19,300
♪ La la-la-la,
la la la la ♪
1968
01:49:19,399 --> 01:49:22,699
♪ La la-la-la,
la la la ♪
1969
01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:25,199
♪ Got to get down to it
1970
01:49:25,300 --> 01:49:28,832
♪ Soldiers are cutting us down
1971
01:49:28,932 --> 01:49:32,699
♪ Should have been done
long ago ♪
1972
01:49:35,100 --> 01:49:37,100
♪ What if you knew her
1973
01:49:37,199 --> 01:49:41,166
♪ And found her dead
on the ground? ♪
1974
01:49:41,265 --> 01:49:44,899
♪ How can you run
when you know? ♪
1975
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:46,899
♪
1976
01:50:05,132 --> 01:50:08,000
♪ Tin soldiers
and Nixon's coming ♪
1977
01:50:08,100 --> 01:50:11,199
♪ We're finally on our own
1978
01:50:11,300 --> 01:50:14,199
♪ This summer
I hear the drumming ♪
1979
01:50:14,300 --> 01:50:16,666
♪ Four dead in Ohio
1980
01:50:16,765 --> 01:50:19,832
♪ Four dead in Ohio
♪ Four
1981
01:50:19,932 --> 01:50:22,100
♪ Four dead in Ohio
1982
01:50:22,199 --> 01:50:25,033
♪ Four
♪ Four dead in Ohio
1983
01:50:25,132 --> 01:50:27,699
♪ How could they?
♪ Four dead in Ohio
1984
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:30,899
♪ How many more?
♪ Four dead in Ohio
1985
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:35,466
♪ Why?
♪ Four dead in...
1986
01:50:36,533 --> 01:50:37,733
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1987
01:50:37,733 --> 01:50:40,600
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1988
01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:44,533
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1989
01:50:44,533 --> 01:50:46,000
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1990
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:47,666
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1991
01:50:47,666 --> 01:50:49,332
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1992
01:50:49,332 --> 01:50:50,733
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1993
01:50:50,733 --> 01:50:51,865
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1994
01:50:51,865 --> 01:50:53,966
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1995
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1996
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1997
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1998
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1999
01:51:03,399 --> 01:51:05,533
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2000
01:51:05,533 --> 01:51:10,432
KEN BURNS' AND LYNN NOVICK'S
FILM "THE VIETNAM WAR"
2001
01:51:10,432 --> 01:51:12,832
BECAUSE FOSTERING
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2002
01:51:12,832 --> 01:51:15,432
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2003
01:51:15,432 --> 01:51:17,733
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2004
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2005
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2006
01:51:31,699 --> 01:51:33,132
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2007
01:51:33,132 --> 01:51:36,632
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2008
01:51:36,632 --> 01:51:40,600
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2009
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2010
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2011
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2012
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CHARITABLE FUND,
2013
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2014
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2015
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2016
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2017
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2018
01:52:02,399 --> 01:52:05,832
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2019
01:52:05,832 --> 01:52:07,733
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2020
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2021
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2022
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2023
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2024
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2025
01:52:23,100 --> 01:52:25,765
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2026
01:52:25,765 --> 01:52:28,533
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2027
01:52:28,533 --> 01:52:31,132
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2028
01:52:31,132 --> 01:52:33,332
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2029
01:52:33,332 --> 01:52:34,533
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2030
01:52:34,533 --> 01:52:35,765
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2031
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2032
01:52:37,733 --> 01:52:38,865
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