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(distant helicopter blades beating)
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(radio feedback)
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JOHN MUSGRAVE: I was assigned a listening
post at Con Thien in the fall.
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That was like getting a
death sentence at a trial.
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Because that's just three
Marines out there with a radio.
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And that's the scariest thing I did.
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You're listening for the enemy.
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They call you on the radio every hour,
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"Delta, Lima, Papa, Three, Bravo,
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"Delta, Lima, Papa, Three,
Bravo, this is Delta Three.
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"If your sit rep is alpha
sierra, key your handset twice.
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(two blips of static)
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"If your situation report is all secure,
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break squelch twice on the handset."
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(two lower-toned blips of static)
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And if it's not, they keep
thinking you're asleep
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so they keep asking you, "If
your sit rep is alpha sierra,"
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and then it finally dawns on them
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maybe there's somebody too
close for you to say anything.
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So then they say, "If your sit
rep is negative alpha sierra,
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key your handset once,"
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and you damn near squeeze the
handle off the, you know,
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and two on the radio
because they're so close
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that you can hear them
whispering to one another.
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And that's scary stuff.
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That's real scary stuff.
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And I'm scared of the dark, still.
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I still got a night light.
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When my kids were growing up,
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that's the first time they really found out
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that Daddy'd been in a war when they said,
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"Well, why do we need to
outgrow our night lights?
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Daddy's still got one."
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("So What" by Miles Davis playing)
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JOHN KENNEDY: Let the word go
forth from this time and place,
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to friend and foe alike,
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that the torch has been
passed to a new generation
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of Americans born in this
century, tempered by war,
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disciplined by a hard and bitter peace,
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proud of our...
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JACK TODD: I still believed, very much,
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in this concept of an heroic America,
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America being a really special country,
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the best country in the
world, the best democracy,
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all the things that we
believe about it, which...
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and I didn't really see
anything wrong with that.
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I was sure that we were
right to be in Vietnam.
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You know, because it started under Kennedy
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and, to me, JFK was God.
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Anything that he thought was
right, I thought was right.
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NARRATOR: At 43, John Fitzgerald
Kennedy was the youngest man
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ever elected president
of the United States.
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He had promised bold new leadership,
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and to his supporters his
inauguration seemed to signal
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a new day.
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To those new states whom we welcome
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to the ranks of the free,
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we pledge our word that one
form of colonial control
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shall not have passed away
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merely to be replaced by
a far more iron tyranny.
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We shall not always expect to
find them supporting our view.
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But we shall always hope to
find them strongly supporting
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their own freedom and to
remember that, in the past,
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those who foolishly sought power
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by riding the back of the
tiger ended up inside.
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(cheers and applause)
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NARRATOR: The new president
gathered around him
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an extraordinary set of advisors
who shared his determination
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to confront communism, including
Secretary of State Dean Rusk,
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National Security Advisor McGeorge Bundy,
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his deputy Walt Rostow,
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special military advisor
General Maxwell Taylor,
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and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara,
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who had given up his post
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as president of the Ford Motor
Company to serve his country.
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He was a pioneer in the
field of systems analysis.
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Like the president who picked them,
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all of Kennedy's men had
served during World War II.
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Each had absorbed what they all believed
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was its central lesson:
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ambitious dictatorships needed
to be halted in their tracks
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before they constituted a serious danger
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to the peace of the world.
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Meanwhile, in South Vietnam,
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the National Liberation Front...
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labeled by its enemies the Viet Cong...
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was determined to overthrow
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the anticommunist and
increasingly autocratic
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government of Ngo Dinh Diem.
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In North Vietnam,
unbeknownst to Washington,
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Ho Chi Minh, the father of
Vietnamese independence,
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was now sharing power with
a more aggressive leader,
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Le Duan, who was even more impatient
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to reunify his country.
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BAO NINH:
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LESLIE GELB: None of us knew
anything about Vietnam.
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Vietnam in those days was
a piece on a chessboard,
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a strategic chessboard,
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not a place with a culture and a history
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that we would have an
impossible time changing,
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even with the mighty force
of the United States.
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NARRATOR: Over the next three years,
the United States would struggle
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to understand the complicated
country it had come to save,
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fail to appreciate the enemy's resolve,
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and misread how the South
Vietnamese people really felt
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about their government.
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The new president would find himself caught
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between the momentum of war
and the desire for peace,
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between humility and hubris,
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between idealism and expediency,
between the truth and a lie.
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("My Country 'Tis of Thee" playing)
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KENNEDY: And so, my fellow Americans,
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ask not what your country can do for you,
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ask what you can do for your country.
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MUSGRAVE: I grew up in
Missouri, near Kansas City,
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a little community called Fairmount.
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I was born in 1948.
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And there were lots of kids
being born in those days
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from the guys who were
lucky enough to come home
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from World War II.
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My dad was a pilot in the Army Air Corps.
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And all of dad's friends
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were World War II vets or Korean vets.
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And all of my male teachers were veterans.
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And even my pastor had been a chaplain.
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Well, they were my heroes, and
I wanted to be like them.
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NARRATOR: For all of John
Kennedy's soaring rhetoric,
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for all the talent he gathered around him,
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the first months of his
presidency did not go well.
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He approved a CIA-sponsored
invasion of Cuba
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at the Bay of Pigs that ended in disaster.
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He felt he'd been bullied
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by Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev
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at a summit meeting in Vienna.
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He was unable to keep the Soviets
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from building the Berlin Wall.
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And in Southeast Asia,
he refused to intervene
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against a communist insurrection in Laos.
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Critics accused him of being
immature, indecisive,
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inadequate to the task of
combating what seemed to be
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a mounting communist threat.
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"There are just so many
concessions that we can make
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in one year and survive politically,"
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he confided to an aide
in the spring of 1961.
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In South Vietnam, Kennedy
felt he had to act.
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After the president received reports
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that the Viet Cong might be in control
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of more than half the densely
populated Mekong Delta,
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he dispatched General Maxwell
Taylor and Walt Rostow
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to Vietnam.
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They urged him to commit
American ground troops.
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Kennedy refused.
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It would be like taking a
first drink, he said...
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the effect would soon wear off
and there would be demands
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for another and another and another.
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Instead, in the midst of a cold war,
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with its constant risk of
nuclear confrontation,
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the president supported
a new "flexible" way
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to confront and contain
communism: limited war.
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This is another type of
warfare, new in its intensity,
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ancient in its origin...
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war by guerrillas, subversives,
insurgents, assassins;
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war by ambush instead of by combat;
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by infiltration instead of aggression.
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NARRATOR: To fight his "limited wars,"
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Kennedy hoped to use the
elite Green Berets,
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special forces trained
in guerrilla warfare,
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counterinsurgency.
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They were meant to be dispatched
to hotspots around the world.
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ROBERT RHEAULT: Khrushchev said,
"We're not going to destroy you
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with nuclear weapons,
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we're going to destroy you with
wars of national liberation."
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Everybody talked about the fact
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that communism was spreading
and it had to be stopped.
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You went to Command and
General Staff College
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and you were playing on
maps with nuclear weapons
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and so forth.
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And I escaped from that by
getting into Special Forces.
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So that instead of planning
what we were going to do
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if World War III broke out,
we were actually doing stuff.
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And Vietnam was a place where
we were going to draw the line.
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NARRATOR: Kennedy sent the Green Berets
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to the Central Highlands of Vietnam
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to organize mountain tribes
to fight the Viet Cong
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and to undertake covert missions
to sabotage their supply bases
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in Laos and Cambodia.
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But Kennedy understood that
counterinsurgency alone
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would never be enough,
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so he doubled funding for
South Vietnam's army,
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dispatched helicopters and APCs,
armored personnel carriers.
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Kennedy also authorized the use of napalm
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and the spraying of defoliants
to deny cover to the Viet Cong
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and destroy the crops that fed them.
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A whole array of chemicals was used,
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including one named for
the color of the stripes
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on the 55-gallon drums in which
it came... "Agent Orange."
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And the president quietly
continued to increase
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the number of American military advisors.
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Within two years, the number
he had inherited would grow
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to 11,300,
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empowered not only to teach
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the Army of the Republic
of Vietnam... the ARVN...
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to fight a conventional war,
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but to accompany them into battle,
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a violation of the agreement
that had divided Vietnam
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back in 1954.
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(gunfire)
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The administration did its best
to hide from the American people
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the scale of the buildup
that was taking place
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on the other side of the world,
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fearful that the public would not support
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the more active role advisors
had begun to play in combat.
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Mr. President, a Republican
National Committee publication
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has said that you are...
have been less than candid
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with the American people as
to how deeply we are involved
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in Vietnam.
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Could you throw any more light on that?
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We have increased our
assistance to the government,
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its logistics.
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We have not sent combat troops there.
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Though the training
missions that we have there
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have been instructed if
they are fired upon to...
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they are, would of course, fire
back, to protect themselves.
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But we have not sent combat troops
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in the generally understood
sense of the word.
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So that I-I feel that we are
being as frank as the...
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as we can be.
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I think we... what I have said to you
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is a description of our activity there.
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NEIL SHEEHAN: I was a
child of the Cold War.
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When I got off the plane in
Saigon on a humid evening
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in April 1962,
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I really believed in all the
ideology of the Cold War.
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On...
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That if we lost South Vietnam,
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that the rest of Southeast Asia
would fall to the communists.
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There was an international
communist conspiracy.
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We believed fervently in this stuff.
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NARRATOR: Neil Sheehan was
a 25-year-old reporter
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for United Press International, UPI.
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He had served three years in
the Army in Korea and Japan
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before deciding to become a newspaperman.
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Vietnam was his first full-time
overseas assignment,
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and his only worry, he remembered,
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was that he would get there
too late and miss out
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on the big story.
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Sheehan and other reporters
rode along as the ARVN mounted
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a series of helicopter
assaults on enemy strongholds
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in the Mekong Delta and elsewhere
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and brought terror to the Viet Cong.
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American pilots were at the controls.
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SHEEHAN: It was a crusade
and it was thrilling.
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And you'd climb aboard the helicopters
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with the Vietnamese soldiers who
were being taken out to battle.
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And they'd take off.
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And they'd contour-fly, they'd
skim across the rice paddies
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at about three or four
feet above the paddies,
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and then pop up over the tree
lines that lined the fields.
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It was thrilling.
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I mean it was absolutely thrilling.
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And you believed in what was happening.
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I mean you had the sense
that we're fighting here
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and some day we'll win, and
this country will be a better,
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better country for our coming.
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NARRATOR: The new M-113
armored personnel carriers
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were capable of churning
across rivers and rice paddies
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and right through the earthen dikes
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that separated one field from the next.
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The Viet Cong had nothing
with which to stop them.
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JAMES SCANLON: We were just overwhelming
them with force, with firepower.
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And the firefights would be
over in a pretty short time.
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MAN ON RADIO: We have some
people running along the dikes.
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Actually, the canal is perpendicular
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to the one you're attacking now.
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They have on black uniforms, and
I estimate approximately 3-0.
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Do you have them in sight? Over.
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SCANLON: That's what was
causing us to win, see.
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And we were winning one after the other.
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And we were not meeting a
heck of a lot of resistance.
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NARRATOR: Captain James Scanlon had
been stationed in West Germany
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and had seen for himself
the brutality with which
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the communist East Germans
dealt with anyone
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who dared try to escape to the West.
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He was now in the Mekong Delta,
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an advisor to the 7th Division of the ARVN,
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and had begun to see evidence
of Viet Cong brutality as well.
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SCANLON: Those of us who talked to
the people who fled East Germany,
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we saw the need to stop
the growth of communism,
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to stop the dominoes from being tumbled.
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That was a worthy cause.
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NARRATOR: As the ARVN and their
advisors pursued the Viet Cong,
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the government of Ngo
Dinh Diem had launched
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an ambitious program meant to
gain control of the countryside
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by concentrating the rural population
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into thousands of fortified settlements,
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ringed with barbed wire and
moats and bamboo spikes
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meant to keep out the Viet Cong.
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They were called strategic
hamlets, part of the effort
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to win the hearts and minds, and loyalty,
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of the Vietnamese people.
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The French had tried something
like it a decade before.
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They had called it pacification.
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ROBERT McNAMARA: President
Diem's strategic hamlet program
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is making substantial progress.
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About 1,600 of the some 14,000 hamlets
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have been fortified to date.
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NARRATOR: By the summer of 1962,
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news from South Vietnam seemed so promising
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that Defense Secretary
Robert McNamara made sure
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the Pentagon was prepared
to implement a plan
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for a gradual withdrawal
of American advisors
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to be completed by 1965.
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So far as most Americans knew,
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the United States was achieving its goal:
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a stable, independent, anticommunist state
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in South Vietnam.
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It was "a struggle this
country cannot shirk,"
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theNew York Tim es said,
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and the United States
seemed to be winning it.
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But that same summer, Ho Chi
Minh traveled to Beijing
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in search of more help from the Chinese.
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The American buildup in South
Vietnam had alarmed him
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and the other leaders in Hanoi.
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Ho told the Chinese that American attacks
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on North Vietnam itself now
seemed only a matter of time.
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The Chinese promised to equip
and arm tens of thousands
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of Vietnamese soldiers.
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Meanwhile, the Politburo
in Hanoi had directed
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that every able-bodied North Vietnamese man
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be required to serve in the armed forces.
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("Honky Tonk Pt. 1" by
Bill Doggett playing)
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NARRATOR: Inspired by
their president's call,
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thousands of young Americans
would join the Peace Corps
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and other organizations to
help project American ideals
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and goodwill around the world.
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("Honky Tonk Pt. 1" continues)
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RUFUS PHILLIPS: We were not only
there in Vietnam to stop communism,
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but there had to be something positive.
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We're trying to find out what
the Vietnamese people want
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and to help them get it.
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And that was very simple
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but, if you think about
it, also very complex.
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But it went to the heart, I thought,
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of what we were trying to do.
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("Dirty Overalls" by Woody Guthrie playing)
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NARRATOR: Pete Hunting, a
22-year-old from Oklahoma City,
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would go to Vietnam right after
college to do what he could
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to help poor villagers in the countryside.
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WOODY GUTHRIE: ♪ I was
a soldier in the fight
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♪ And I fought till we won
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♪ My uniform's my dirty overhauls. ♪
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HUNTING (dramatized): Dear Margo,
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I finally finished up my
work in Phan Rang last week.
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Had spent a month working on a windmill
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I'd promised the people of one hamlet.
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Cost a lot of money, too, which
I paid out of my own pocket.
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GUTHRIE: ♪ Well, I'll give you my
sweat, I'll give you my blood. ♪
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HUNTING (dramatized): I'm
in soaring spirits today
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despite all the natural
disasters, political intrigues,
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and subversive activities.
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NARRATOR: Pete Hunting worked
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for the International Voluntary Services,
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a nonprofit organization
committed to improving
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agriculture, education, and public health.
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He was one of hundreds
of dedicated aid workers
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in South Vietnam.
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GUTHRIE: ♪ My hoe is my gun.
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HUNTING (dramatized): Latest
news on this side of the world
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is that I'll almost definitely
be extending over here
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for another two years,
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providing the country stays
in one piece that long.
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NARRATOR: Two years after he arrived,
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Pete Hunting was driving
in the Mekong Delta
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when he ran into a Viet Cong ambush.
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He was shot five times in the head...
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(gunshot)
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the first American civilian volunteer
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to be killed in Vietnam.
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(helicopter blades
beating, voices on radio)
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(distorted sound of gunfire, explosion)
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People used to joke in Vietnam
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about winning the hearts and minds.
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And you hear that expression,
but that should not be a joke.
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It's a serious, serious problem.
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If you pull off a military operation,
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and it may be successful
on the military basis,
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but you destroy a village,
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then you've created a
village of resistance.
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NARRATOR: Few advisors
understood the unique challenges
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of fighting an insurgency in Vietnam
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better than Lieutenant
Colonel John Paul Vann.
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A career soldier from Virginia,
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he was the senior American advisor
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to the 7th ARVN Division
in the Mekong Delta.
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Small, wiry and abrasive,
John Paul Vann was convinced
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he knew how to defeat the Viet Cong.
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PHILIP BRADY: John Paul Vann was
simply the most remarkable soldier
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I ever met.
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Period.
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The biggest challenge of
John Paul Vann's life
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was somehow saving Vietnam, winning.
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That, to him, was the ultimate challenge.
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(explosion)
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NARRATOR: When it became clear to Vann
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that the tactics the Americans
had taught the ARVN
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were beginning to make
more enemies than friends,
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he sought out newspapermen
to spread the word.
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NEIL SHEEHAN: He was able to
explain to us what was going on.
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The important thing was not
to alienate the population.
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That if you got sniper fire from a hamlet,
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you sent in riflemen to
take out the sniper.
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You didn't shell the place,
because you were going to kill
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women and kids and destroy houses
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and you were going to turn
the population against you.
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NARRATOR: Most press coverage
of Vietnam was upbeat
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in the tradition of previous wars.
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But a handful of young reporters
including Neil Sheehan,
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David Halberstam of theNew York Times,
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and Malcolm Browne of the Associated Press,
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who spent time in the field
with officers like Vann,
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were beginning to see that from
the Vietnamese countryside,
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things looked very different than they did
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from the press offices
in Washington or Saigon.
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SHEEHAN: So it was terribly important
that we not only win the war
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but that we as reporters report the truth
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that would help to win the war.
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We were very fervent in
wanting to report the truth
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because it was very important
to the welfare of our country
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and to the welfare of the world.
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NARRATOR: Sheehan and his colleagues
began asking tough questions
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about what constituted progress,
what victory would look like,
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and if the people in the countryside,
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where 80% of South Vietnam's
population lived,
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could ever trust the government in Saigon.
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SHEEHAN: I remember going, during
one of Robert McNamara's visits,
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out to one of these hamlets.
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The Vietnamese general
who commanded the area
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was telling McNamara what a
wonderful thing this was.
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And the-the... some of
these farmers were down
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digging a ditch around the...
around the hamlet.
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And I looked at their faces
and they were really angry.
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I mean it was very obvious to me
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that if these people could,
they'd cut our throats.
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NARRATOR: Farmers resented being
forced to abandon their homes
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and move to strategic hamlets.
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Corrupt officials siphoned off funds.
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And villagers blamed the Diem regime
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for failing to protect them
from guerrilla attacks.
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As the people's anger grew, so
did the ranks of the Viet Cong.
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SHEEHAN: It turned out that the
Viet Cong were recruiting men
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right out of those strategic...
so-called strategic hamlets.
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And then the whole program fell apart.
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NGUYEN NGOC:
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NARRATOR: Nguyen Ngoc's father was
a postal clerk south of Danang.
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His brothers and sisters taught
in South Vietnamese schools.
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But he joined the revolution,
and as a political officer,
491
00:28:52,766 --> 00:28:56,700
wrote poems, songs, and
slogans to inspire the people
492
00:28:56,799 --> 00:29:01,299
in the countryside to
support the Viet Cong.
493
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,932
DUONG VAN MAI: The Viet Cong cadre
would come in and talk to them
494
00:29:06,032 --> 00:29:10,799
and their message is usually
(speaking Vietnamese),
495
00:29:10,900 --> 00:29:13,400
which means "turn your grief into action.
496
00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:15,900
"Do something about it.
497
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,932
"Join us.
498
00:29:18,032 --> 00:29:19,400
"We'll fight together.
499
00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:23,900
"We'll liberate the country from
this corrupt, unjust government.
500
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,900
"We'll throw out the foreigners.
501
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,700
"We'll reunify the country.
502
00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:30,865
"And we'll bring in this great regime
503
00:29:30,965 --> 00:29:32,500
"that will take care of you
504
00:29:32,599 --> 00:29:34,400
and bring economic and social justice."
505
00:29:36,500 --> 00:29:39,599
NARRATOR: The Viet Cong ran
rival local governments,
506
00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:43,500
complete with their own tax
collectors and school teachers,
507
00:29:43,599 --> 00:29:48,000
spies and propagandists,
and province chiefs.
508
00:29:50,599 --> 00:29:52,799
To make matters worse,
509
00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:56,633
ARVN troops and American
advisors now found themselves
510
00:29:56,732 --> 00:29:59,633
confronted by a new threat:
511
00:29:59,732 --> 00:30:02,900
battalions of well-armed
Viet Cong soldiers,
512
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,165
as well as by local guerrillas.
513
00:30:06,266 --> 00:30:08,465
SHEEHAN: We'd armed them.
514
00:30:08,566 --> 00:30:11,900
You could hear the arming of the Viet Cong.
515
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,432
Back in early '62, they only had
one machine gun per battalion.
516
00:30:15,532 --> 00:30:16,599
(single gunfire burst)
517
00:30:16,700 --> 00:30:18,165
It was sporadic fire.
518
00:30:18,266 --> 00:30:22,165
Then, as they captured more and
more of these American arms,
519
00:30:22,266 --> 00:30:24,000
when you made contact, it fi...
520
00:30:24,099 --> 00:30:26,333
it would build up into a
drumfire of automatic
521
00:30:26,432 --> 00:30:27,865
and semi-automatic weapons.
522
00:30:27,965 --> 00:30:30,865
(cacophony of gunfire bursts)
523
00:30:35,599 --> 00:30:38,700
RUFUS PHILLIPS: Secretary McNamara
decided that he would draw up
524
00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:41,633
some kind of a chart to determine
525
00:30:41,732 --> 00:30:44,566
whether we were winning or not.
526
00:30:44,665 --> 00:30:47,266
And he was putting things in
527
00:30:47,365 --> 00:30:50,133
like numbers of weapons recovered,
528
00:30:50,232 --> 00:30:52,500
numbers of Viet Cong killed.
529
00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:55,000
Very statistical.
530
00:30:57,566 --> 00:30:59,965
And he asked Edward Lansdale,
531
00:31:00,066 --> 00:31:03,766
who was then in the Pentagon
as head of Special Operations,
532
00:31:03,865 --> 00:31:05,865
to come down and look at this.
533
00:31:05,965 --> 00:31:10,099
And so Lansdale did and he said,
"There's something missing."
534
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,400
And McNamara said, "What?"
535
00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:17,032
And Lansdale said, "The feelings
of the Vietnamese people."
536
00:31:17,133 --> 00:31:20,965
You couldn't reduce this to a statistic.
537
00:31:21,066 --> 00:31:25,633
NARRATOR: Robert McNamara had
vowed to make America's military
538
00:31:25,732 --> 00:31:27,099
"cost-effective."
539
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,900
He demanded that everything be quantified.
540
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,799
In Saigon, General Paul D. Harkins,
541
00:31:34,900 --> 00:31:38,165
head of the Military
Assistance Command, Vietnam,
542
00:31:38,266 --> 00:31:41,500
known as MACV, dutifully complied.
543
00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:46,200
He and his staff generated
mountains of daily, weekly,
544
00:31:46,299 --> 00:31:48,465
monthly, and quarterly data
545
00:31:48,566 --> 00:31:51,566
on more than a hundred separate indicators,
546
00:31:51,665 --> 00:31:56,165
far more data than could
ever be adequately analyzed.
547
00:31:56,266 --> 00:31:59,532
(typewriter keys clacking)
548
00:31:59,633 --> 00:32:02,432
General Harkins had little
use for skeptical reporters
549
00:32:02,532 --> 00:32:04,066
like Neil Sheehan.
550
00:32:04,165 --> 00:32:06,633
Bad news was to be buried.
551
00:32:06,732 --> 00:32:10,833
Harkins ignored the alarming
after action reports
552
00:32:10,932 --> 00:32:14,500
John Paul Vann and other
officers were sending in
553
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:16,566
from the field.
554
00:32:16,665 --> 00:32:19,633
DONALD GREGG: I was going to be
made head of the Vietnam desk
555
00:32:19,732 --> 00:32:21,700
at CIA headquarters.
556
00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:25,032
And the first person of
importance that I met
557
00:32:25,133 --> 00:32:27,333
was General Harkins.
558
00:32:27,432 --> 00:32:29,865
And he started out by saying,
559
00:32:29,965 --> 00:32:32,732
"Mr. Gregg, I don't care what
you hear from anybody else,
560
00:32:32,833 --> 00:32:35,208
"I can tell you without a doubt
we're going to be out of here
561
00:32:35,232 --> 00:32:37,032
with a military victory in six months."
562
00:32:38,532 --> 00:32:40,465
JAMES MOSSMAN: The country's
12 million peasants
563
00:32:40,566 --> 00:32:43,165
can scarcely remember what peace was like.
564
00:32:43,266 --> 00:32:45,146
They're caught between
the predatory guerrillas
565
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,700
and the almost equally demanding soldiery.
566
00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:50,119
Their lives are lived in a state
of permanent uncertainty,
567
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,799
punctuated by bouts of violence
568
00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:54,333
as government forces come to grips
569
00:32:54,432 --> 00:32:56,665
with the black-clad communist rebel forces
570
00:32:56,766 --> 00:32:58,099
called the Viet Cong.
571
00:33:02,833 --> 00:33:05,333
HUY DUC:
572
00:33:44,232 --> 00:33:47,599
NGUYEN NGOC:
573
00:34:30,032 --> 00:34:32,733
CAO XUAN DAI:
574
00:34:56,065 --> 00:35:00,300
On our side we were not as committed
575
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,233
and we were...
576
00:35:02,333 --> 00:35:05,565
our leaders were corrupt and incompetent.
577
00:35:05,666 --> 00:35:10,632
And so deep down we'll
always have this fear,
578
00:35:10,733 --> 00:35:16,300
this suspicion that in the end
it'll be the communists who won.
579
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,865
TOM VALLELY: When John Kennedy assembled
580
00:35:19,965 --> 00:35:22,000
what he thinks is the
best and the brightest,
581
00:35:22,099 --> 00:35:28,266
20 years before that in a
cave in the northern part
582
00:35:28,365 --> 00:35:30,932
of Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh also put together
583
00:35:31,032 --> 00:35:32,432
his best and the brightest.
584
00:35:32,532 --> 00:35:35,599
And these guys are at it for a while.
585
00:35:35,699 --> 00:35:39,233
And when we show up, they were far along
586
00:35:39,333 --> 00:35:45,199
to consolidating their victory
over this inevitable conflict
587
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:49,833
between Ho Chi Minh and John F.
Kennedy's vision.
588
00:35:49,932 --> 00:35:55,000
The more you think about
the American strategy,
589
00:35:55,099 --> 00:35:58,699
the more you know
590
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,565
that it was never going to
work out particularly well.
591
00:36:16,432 --> 00:36:22,099
RHEAULT: I was at my top of
my game when I was in combat.
592
00:36:27,065 --> 00:36:30,132
You don't have the luxury
to indulge your fear
593
00:36:30,233 --> 00:36:32,199
because other people's lives depend upon
594
00:36:32,300 --> 00:36:33,599
you keeping your head cold.
595
00:36:42,365 --> 00:36:45,333
You know, when something goes wrong,
596
00:36:45,432 --> 00:36:46,733
they call it emotional numbing.
597
00:36:46,833 --> 00:36:49,099
It's not very good in civilian life,
598
00:36:49,199 --> 00:36:51,400
but it's pretty useful in combat.
599
00:37:03,099 --> 00:37:05,699
To be able to get absolutely very cold
600
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,965
about what needs to be
done and to stick with it.
601
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,733
To me it's, it's a little
bit distressing to realize
602
00:37:19,833 --> 00:37:21,500
that I was at my best
603
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:24,266
doing something as terrible as war.
604
00:37:33,666 --> 00:37:36,199
MOSSMAN: President Kennedy has
staked his reputation in Asia
605
00:37:36,300 --> 00:37:39,132
on saving South Vietnam from communism.
606
00:37:39,233 --> 00:37:41,632
As the army makes the
sweep towards the village
607
00:37:41,733 --> 00:37:43,532
suspected of harboring Viet Cong,
608
00:37:43,632 --> 00:37:46,733
it can't tell whether it
will meet resistance.
609
00:37:52,965 --> 00:37:55,166
The troops round up all the
young men they can find,
610
00:37:55,266 --> 00:37:58,333
since they can't tell who is
a communist just by looking.
611
00:38:00,833 --> 00:38:03,500
Those who try to run for it are shot
612
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:05,532
on the assumption they
have something to hide.
613
00:38:10,565 --> 00:38:14,199
TRAN NGOC CHAU (in English):
614
00:38:57,199 --> 00:39:02,065
NARRATOR: Each of South Vietnam's
44 provinces had its own chief.
615
00:39:02,166 --> 00:39:04,965
Some were simply political appointees,
616
00:39:05,065 --> 00:39:07,833
corrupt allies of President Diem.
617
00:39:07,932 --> 00:39:13,565
Tran Ngoc Chau, province chief
of Kien Hoa, was different.
618
00:39:13,666 --> 00:39:18,500
A privileged judge's son from
the old imperial city of Hue,
619
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:21,565
he and two of his brothers had
fought against the French
620
00:39:21,666 --> 00:39:23,032
with the Viet Minh.
621
00:39:23,132 --> 00:39:27,132
But he had refused to
join the Communist Party;
622
00:39:27,233 --> 00:39:30,166
he admired their dedication,
but disliked the way
623
00:39:30,266 --> 00:39:33,400
they punished those who
dared differ with them.
624
00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:36,465
Instead, he left the Viet Minh,
625
00:39:36,565 --> 00:39:39,699
became a major in the army
fighting against them,
626
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,666
and eventually so impressed Diem
with his insider's knowledge
627
00:39:43,766 --> 00:39:47,599
of communist tactics that
he was promoted to colonel
628
00:39:47,699 --> 00:39:53,532
and made chief of Kien Hoa,
a Viet Cong stronghold.
629
00:39:53,632 --> 00:39:57,300
PHILLIPS: He was absolutely incorruptible.
630
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:02,365
And people came to really
understand that here's a guy
631
00:40:02,465 --> 00:40:05,465
who's, even though it's
not an elected system,
632
00:40:05,565 --> 00:40:08,400
who never... nevertheless
really represents us.
633
00:40:10,099 --> 00:40:12,019
NARRATOR: "Give me a budget
that equals the cost
634
00:40:12,099 --> 00:40:16,300
of one American helicopter,"
Chau liked to say,
635
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,032
"and I'll give you a pacified province.
636
00:40:19,132 --> 00:40:23,199
"With that much money, I can
raise the standard of living
637
00:40:23,300 --> 00:40:24,800
"of the rice farmers,
638
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:26,660
"and government officials
can be paid enough
639
00:40:26,699 --> 00:40:31,400
so they won't think it necessary to steal."
640
00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:33,965
Rather than hunt down the Viet Cong,
641
00:40:34,065 --> 00:40:36,733
he sought to persuade them.
642
00:40:38,099 --> 00:40:41,300
TRAN NGOC CHAU (in English):
643
00:41:27,932 --> 00:41:32,032
("Walk, Don't Run" by the Ventures playing)
644
00:41:32,132 --> 00:41:35,733
NARRATOR: Back home, Americans
were paying little attention
645
00:41:35,833 --> 00:41:38,000
to what was happening in Vietnam.
646
00:41:38,099 --> 00:41:40,833
They were watching The Beverly Hillbillies
647
00:41:40,932 --> 00:41:43,032
andGunsm oke on TV,
648
00:41:43,132 --> 00:41:46,065
were interested in whether
the Yankees would win
649
00:41:46,166 --> 00:41:47,565
the World Series again
650
00:41:47,666 --> 00:41:51,800
and in the recent death of Marilyn Monroe.
651
00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:55,000
("Stand By Me" by Ben E. King playing)
652
00:41:55,099 --> 00:41:57,500
But some Americans had
been growing impatient
653
00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:00,865
with the slow pace of social change.
654
00:42:00,965 --> 00:42:02,599
BILL ZIMMERMAN: We were told in the '50s
655
00:42:02,699 --> 00:42:05,400
that we lived in the best
country in the world.
656
00:42:05,500 --> 00:42:08,900
In the middle of, you know,
trying to figure out
657
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,233
what it meant to be a citizen of the...
658
00:42:11,333 --> 00:42:13,666
of this best country in the world,
659
00:42:13,766 --> 00:42:15,565
suddenly the civil rights movement exploded
660
00:42:15,666 --> 00:42:17,599
into our consciousness.
661
00:42:17,699 --> 00:42:23,833
BEN E. KING: ♪ When the night has come...
662
00:42:23,932 --> 00:42:25,766
ZIMMERMAN: We didn't
think we had any power.
663
00:42:25,865 --> 00:42:29,000
We didn't think we could
be actors in history,
664
00:42:29,099 --> 00:42:31,699
that we could affect things.
665
00:42:33,932 --> 00:42:37,000
KING: ♪ No, I won't be afraid
666
00:42:37,099 --> 00:42:38,932
♪ Oh, I won't...
667
00:42:39,032 --> 00:42:40,766
ZIMMERMAN: And suddenly, you know,
668
00:42:40,865 --> 00:42:42,766
these young black students in the South
669
00:42:42,865 --> 00:42:44,465
were doing exactly that.
670
00:42:44,565 --> 00:42:47,632
And it just blew the tops of our heads off.
671
00:42:47,733 --> 00:42:53,365
KING: ♪ So darling,
darling, stand by me ♪
672
00:42:53,465 --> 00:42:57,800
♪ Oh, stand by me
673
00:42:57,900 --> 00:43:03,065
♪ Oh, stand, stand by me
674
00:43:03,166 --> 00:43:05,932
♪ Stand by me
675
00:43:06,032 --> 00:43:08,699
♪ If the sky that we look upon... ♪
676
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,199
NARRATOR: Other Americans were
concerned about the proliferation
677
00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:15,532
of nuclear weapons in the world.
678
00:43:15,632 --> 00:43:19,532
Perhaps it would be a good thing
to put Khrushchev and Kennedy
679
00:43:19,632 --> 00:43:23,432
on an island and not let
either one of them off
680
00:43:23,532 --> 00:43:25,800
until they came to an agreement.
681
00:43:25,900 --> 00:43:28,266
KING: ♪ Stand by me
682
00:43:28,365 --> 00:43:33,199
♪ And darling, darling, stand by me. ♪
683
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,833
(bicycle bells ring, motors rumble)
684
00:43:48,565 --> 00:43:51,699
SHEEHAN: And if you were in a cafe
when Diem was giving a speech,
685
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,600
somebody would get up
and shut the radio off,
686
00:43:53,666 --> 00:43:55,432
it would be coming in over the radio.
687
00:43:55,532 --> 00:43:57,833
Somebody would get up and
they'd just shut the radio off.
688
00:43:57,932 --> 00:44:02,099
I mean, he was not connected with...
to his own population.
689
00:44:05,065 --> 00:44:09,965
PHAN QUANG TUE: Diem was simply the
opposite of what democracy was.
690
00:44:10,065 --> 00:44:13,833
South Vietnam, in the
competition against the North,
691
00:44:13,932 --> 00:44:19,000
that should been, should have
been a golden opportunity
692
00:44:19,099 --> 00:44:24,400
to have that society open
with the free press,
693
00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:26,500
free expression.
694
00:44:26,599 --> 00:44:29,333
But there was not much choice
695
00:44:29,432 --> 00:44:33,833
if the two system are structurally dictator
696
00:44:33,932 --> 00:44:35,233
and oppressive systems...
697
00:44:35,333 --> 00:44:41,666
one under the Communist
Party, one under a family.
698
00:44:42,766 --> 00:44:45,300
CHAU (speaking English):
699
00:44:58,599 --> 00:45:02,199
NARRATOR: Diem's brother, Ngo
Dinh Nhu, had been the architect
700
00:45:02,300 --> 00:45:04,699
of the strategic hamlet program,
701
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,932
ran a personal political party
that mirrored the techniques
702
00:45:09,032 --> 00:45:11,500
and the ruthlessness of the communists,
703
00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:15,766
and supervised a host of
internal security units
704
00:45:15,865 --> 00:45:20,000
that spied on and seized
enemies of the regime.
705
00:45:21,865 --> 00:45:23,965
Some reporters who probed too deeply
706
00:45:24,065 --> 00:45:26,465
into what Diem and Nhu were doing
707
00:45:26,565 --> 00:45:28,733
were ordered out of the country.
708
00:45:28,833 --> 00:45:29,833
(gunshot)
709
00:45:29,865 --> 00:45:32,266
When an American journalist objected,
710
00:45:32,365 --> 00:45:36,432
Nhu's sharp-tongued wife
told him Vietnam had no use
711
00:45:36,532 --> 00:45:39,166
for "your crazy freedoms."
712
00:45:40,632 --> 00:45:42,500
Meanwhile, out in the countryside,
713
00:45:42,599 --> 00:45:46,766
John Paul Vann and other
advisors had begun to notice
714
00:45:46,865 --> 00:45:50,599
that the corruption within
Diem's regime had filtered down
715
00:45:50,699 --> 00:45:52,632
to the commanders in the field.
716
00:45:52,733 --> 00:45:57,733
Troops, who had once been
willing to engage the enemy,
717
00:45:57,833 --> 00:46:01,865
now seemed strangely reluctant.
718
00:46:01,965 --> 00:46:06,766
God, I was told so many times,
"(speaking Vietnamese)."
719
00:46:06,865 --> 00:46:08,766
You know, "Scanlon, (speaking Vietnamese)."
720
00:46:08,865 --> 00:46:09,965
Um...
721
00:46:10,065 --> 00:46:15,266
very dangerous, you know, going out there.
722
00:46:15,365 --> 00:46:18,099
NEIL SHEEHAN: John Vann would
go out with them at night.
723
00:46:18,199 --> 00:46:22,300
And he noticed that
somebody would always cough
724
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,733
or make some other slight
noise when it turned out
725
00:46:25,833 --> 00:46:28,233
that the Viet Cong were
heading into the ambush site.
726
00:46:28,333 --> 00:46:30,065
They did not want to get in a fight.
727
00:46:30,166 --> 00:46:33,365
NARRATOR: South Vietnamese
officers were chosen
728
00:46:33,465 --> 00:46:36,932
less for their combat skill
than for their loyalty
729
00:46:37,032 --> 00:46:41,000
to President Diem, and their men knew it.
730
00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:43,660
RHEAULT: What we should've done is
731
00:46:43,733 --> 00:46:48,300
either forced the Vietnamese...
I mean really forced them...
732
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,500
to clean up their act.
733
00:46:50,599 --> 00:46:52,632
And if they wouldn't clean
up their act to say,
734
00:46:52,733 --> 00:46:55,132
"We're out of here.
735
00:46:55,233 --> 00:46:58,032
"Because we don't bet on losing horses.
736
00:46:58,132 --> 00:47:00,532
"This is a losing horse.
737
00:47:00,632 --> 00:47:02,900
You are not going to win this insurgency."
738
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,733
We, as Americans, should
have understood the desire
739
00:47:05,833 --> 00:47:09,300
of the Vietnamese people
to have their own country.
740
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,400
I mean we did the same thing to the Brits.
741
00:47:18,032 --> 00:47:22,865
NARRATOR: In October of 1962, the
United States and the Soviet Union
742
00:47:22,965 --> 00:47:25,733
came closer than they would ever come again
743
00:47:25,833 --> 00:47:28,500
to mutually assured destruction.
744
00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:31,599
Good evening, my fellow citizens.
745
00:47:31,699 --> 00:47:35,666
This government, as
promised, has maintained
746
00:47:35,766 --> 00:47:39,599
the closest surveillance of
the Soviet military buildup
747
00:47:39,699 --> 00:47:41,500
on the island of Cuba.
748
00:47:42,500 --> 00:47:44,532
Within the past week,
749
00:47:44,632 --> 00:47:47,932
unmistakable evidence has
established the fact
750
00:47:48,032 --> 00:47:51,432
that a series of offensive missile sites
751
00:47:51,532 --> 00:47:56,565
is now in preparation on
that imprisoned island.
752
00:47:56,666 --> 00:47:59,865
NARRATOR: The Soviets had
secretly placed nuclear missiles
753
00:47:59,965 --> 00:48:03,000
90 miles from the United States.
754
00:48:03,099 --> 00:48:08,000
The Joint Chiefs of Staff urged
President Kennedy to bomb Cuba.
755
00:48:08,099 --> 00:48:12,233
He resisted and instead
ordered a naval blockade
756
00:48:12,333 --> 00:48:16,733
to stop Soviet ships from
resupplying the island.
757
00:48:18,300 --> 00:48:23,699
For 13 excruciating days,
the world held its breath.
758
00:48:27,099 --> 00:48:30,333
Finally, in exchange for a private pledge
759
00:48:30,432 --> 00:48:33,132
to remove American missiles from Turkey,
760
00:48:33,233 --> 00:48:36,833
Khrushchev agreed to remove
his missiles from Cuba.
761
00:48:39,666 --> 00:48:42,666
Neither the United States
nor the Soviet Union
762
00:48:42,766 --> 00:48:46,800
wanted so direct a
confrontation ever again.
763
00:48:46,900 --> 00:48:49,300
From now on, limited wars,
764
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,900
like the growing conflict in Vietnam,
765
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,500
would assume still greater importance.
766
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:03,300
MUSGRAVE: I'd grown up in the
shadow of the mushroom cloud.
767
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,432
And I remember the... watching
President Kennedy speak
768
00:49:07,532 --> 00:49:09,099
during the Cuban Missile Crisis
769
00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:11,400
and wondering if I was
ever gonna kiss a girl.
770
00:49:11,500 --> 00:49:14,365
And so this was just continuing that battle
771
00:49:14,465 --> 00:49:16,233
against the Russians.
772
00:49:16,333 --> 00:49:19,865
Only we were fighting, you
know, their, their proxies,
773
00:49:19,965 --> 00:49:23,400
the Vietnamese there... but
it was monolithic communism.
774
00:49:24,766 --> 00:49:27,632
It didn't matter to me where
it was, I was going to go
775
00:49:27,733 --> 00:49:31,800
if my government said
we needed to be there.
776
00:49:31,900 --> 00:49:34,833
We were probably the last
kids of any generation
777
00:49:34,932 --> 00:49:36,166
that actually believed
778
00:49:36,266 --> 00:49:38,000
our government would never lie to us.
779
00:49:43,333 --> 00:49:45,632
SHEEHAN: We had been writing
stories about all the flaws
780
00:49:45,733 --> 00:49:48,565
on the Saigon side... about
how they wouldn't fight,
781
00:49:48,666 --> 00:49:51,400
about the corruption, they
wouldn't obey orders,
782
00:49:51,500 --> 00:49:53,032
the disorganization.
783
00:49:54,965 --> 00:49:59,500
And then all of a sudden the
Viet Cong, for the first time,
784
00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:00,965
the "raggedy-ass little bastards"
785
00:50:01,065 --> 00:50:03,865
as the Harkins's people
in Saigon called them,
786
00:50:03,965 --> 00:50:05,500
stood and fought.
787
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:07,865
And suddenly all the
flaws on the Saigon side
788
00:50:07,965 --> 00:50:10,266
were illuminated by this.
789
00:50:10,365 --> 00:50:13,565
Like a star shell, it
illuminated the battlefield.
790
00:50:13,666 --> 00:50:15,132
Everything came out.
791
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,699
NARRATOR: A few days after Christmas 1962,
792
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,266
the 7th ARVN Division got orders to capture
793
00:50:23,365 --> 00:50:25,465
a Viet Cong radio transmitter
794
00:50:25,565 --> 00:50:30,199
broadcasting from a spot some
40 miles southwest of Saigon
795
00:50:30,300 --> 00:50:33,266
in a village called Tan Thoi.
796
00:50:33,365 --> 00:50:36,099
The village was surrounded by rice paddies.
797
00:50:36,199 --> 00:50:42,199
An irrigation dike linked it to
a neighboring hamlet... Ap Bac.
798
00:50:42,300 --> 00:50:46,632
Intelligence suggested no
more than 120 guerrillas
799
00:50:46,733 --> 00:50:49,065
were guarding the transmitter.
800
00:50:49,166 --> 00:50:52,500
John Paul Vann helped
draw up what seemed to be
801
00:50:52,599 --> 00:50:55,032
a foolproof plan of attack.
802
00:50:55,132 --> 00:50:59,365
Supported by helicopters and
armored personnel carriers,
803
00:50:59,465 --> 00:51:03,333
some 1,200 South Vietnamese
troops would attack the village
804
00:51:03,432 --> 00:51:05,266
from three sides.
805
00:51:05,365 --> 00:51:08,233
When the surviving Viet Cong
tried to flee through the gap
806
00:51:08,333 --> 00:51:12,266
left open for them, as they
always had whenever outnumbered
807
00:51:12,365 --> 00:51:14,565
and confronted by modern weapons,
808
00:51:14,666 --> 00:51:18,166
artillery and airstrikes
would destroy them.
809
00:51:18,266 --> 00:51:22,733
Vann would observe the
fighting from a spotter plane.
810
00:51:22,833 --> 00:51:28,432
But the intelligence underlying
it all turned out to be wrong.
811
00:51:28,532 --> 00:51:34,065
There were more than 340 Viet
Cong, not 120, in the area.
812
00:51:34,166 --> 00:51:37,099
Communist spies had tipped them off
813
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:39,300
that they were soon to be attacked.
814
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,465
And this time they would
not flee without a fight.
815
00:51:45,932 --> 00:51:48,666
Among them was Le Quan Cong,
816
00:51:48,766 --> 00:51:53,199
who had been a guerrilla fighter
since 1951, when he was 12.
817
00:52:07,666 --> 00:52:12,733
NARRATOR: At 6:35 in the
morning on January 2, 1963,
818
00:52:12,833 --> 00:52:16,132
ten American helicopters
ferried an ARVN company
819
00:52:16,233 --> 00:52:19,599
to a spot just north of Tan Thoi.
820
00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:25,500
They met no resistance.
821
00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:29,166
Meanwhile, two South Vietnamese
Civil Guard battalions
822
00:52:29,266 --> 00:52:32,565
approached Ap Bac from the South on foot.
823
00:52:35,565 --> 00:52:39,233
The Viet Cong commander let the
Civil Guards get within 100 feet
824
00:52:39,333 --> 00:52:41,900
before giving the order to fire.
825
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,166
Several South Vietnamese
soldiers were killed.
826
00:52:51,132 --> 00:52:54,199
Survivors hid behind a dike.
827
00:52:54,300 --> 00:52:57,032
(gunfire)
828
00:52:57,132 --> 00:52:58,965
Ten more helicopters,
829
00:52:59,065 --> 00:53:02,766
filled with troops and escorted
by five helicopter gunships,
830
00:53:02,865 --> 00:53:04,132
roared in to help.
831
00:53:05,666 --> 00:53:07,632
LE QUAN CONG:
832
00:53:30,965 --> 00:53:35,266
NARRATOR: Viet Cong machine
guns hit 14 of the 15 aircraft.
833
00:53:35,365 --> 00:53:40,733
Five would be destroyed, killing
and wounding American crewmen.
834
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:44,365
LE QUAN CONG:
835
00:53:50,432 --> 00:53:52,800
NARRATOR: The enemy concentrated
their fire on the ARVN
836
00:53:52,900 --> 00:53:55,965
struggling to get out of
the downed helicopters.
837
00:53:56,065 --> 00:53:59,032
"It was like shooting
ducks for the Viet Cong,"
838
00:53:59,132 --> 00:54:01,065
an American crewman remembered.
839
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,400
Colonel Vann circled helplessly overhead.
840
00:54:06,500 --> 00:54:08,900
He radioed the ARVN commander,
841
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,099
urging him to send an APC
unit to rescue the men.
842
00:54:14,432 --> 00:54:17,000
SCANLON: I got the word from John Vann
843
00:54:17,099 --> 00:54:19,900
that American helicopters were down.
844
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,365
They were right in front of
the Viet Cong positions.
845
00:54:22,465 --> 00:54:25,766
We had Americans killed and wounded
846
00:54:25,865 --> 00:54:27,932
and we had to get over there right away.
847
00:54:28,032 --> 00:54:31,932
NARRATOR: Like Vann, Captain
Scanlon was only an advisor.
848
00:54:32,032 --> 00:54:35,465
Captain Ly Tong Ba, his ARVN counterpart,
849
00:54:35,565 --> 00:54:38,266
would have to give the order to advance.
850
00:54:38,365 --> 00:54:41,599
Scanlon liked and admired him.
851
00:54:41,699 --> 00:54:44,132
SCANLON: I turned to Ba and said,
852
00:54:44,233 --> 00:54:46,900
"Hey, you know, you got to
get over there right away."
853
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,500
And Ba said to me, "I'm not going."
854
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:54,965
NARRATOR: Ba's superiors within the
ARVN, far from the battlefield,
855
00:54:55,065 --> 00:54:58,132
had told him to stay put.
856
00:54:58,233 --> 00:55:02,166
And John Vann, my boss, was, uh,
screaming at me over the...
857
00:55:02,266 --> 00:55:05,565
over the radio to get them over there.
858
00:55:05,666 --> 00:55:10,000
NARRATOR: It took Scanlon an hour
to convince Captain Ba to move.
859
00:55:10,099 --> 00:55:12,500
Another two hours were lost
860
00:55:12,599 --> 00:55:15,599
before the APCs could make
their way through the paddies
861
00:55:15,699 --> 00:55:17,900
toward the trapped men.
862
00:55:19,865 --> 00:55:22,132
The firing had died down.
863
00:55:22,233 --> 00:55:24,132
SCANLON: Everything was quiet.
864
00:55:24,233 --> 00:55:26,932
You could see the open
expanse of rice fields.
865
00:55:27,032 --> 00:55:30,333
And my reaction was, hey, it was all over.
866
00:55:30,432 --> 00:55:33,632
NARRATOR: The first two
APCs dropped their ramps.
867
00:55:33,733 --> 00:55:36,099
Infantry squads stepped out,
868
00:55:36,199 --> 00:55:39,166
prepared to spray the tree
line with automatic fire
869
00:55:39,266 --> 00:55:40,465
as they advanced.
870
00:55:40,565 --> 00:55:43,266
In the past, that had been enough
871
00:55:43,365 --> 00:55:46,699
to make the Viet Cong scurry away.
872
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,065
This time was different.
873
00:55:52,766 --> 00:55:54,766
Eight of the APCs came under attack.
874
00:55:54,865 --> 00:55:58,233
Within minutes, six of their
gunners had been killed,
875
00:55:58,333 --> 00:55:59,565
shot through the head.
876
00:56:00,965 --> 00:56:03,065
SCANLON: And boy, we got raked.
877
00:56:03,166 --> 00:56:04,900
So it was like a pool table.
878
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,365
We were on the green
879
00:56:06,465 --> 00:56:08,699
and they were in the
pockets shooting at us.
880
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,565
NARRATOR: When Captain
Ba managed to convince
881
00:56:11,666 --> 00:56:14,233
a few more APCs to advance,
882
00:56:14,333 --> 00:56:17,300
guerrillas leapt from their foxholes
883
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,432
and hurled hand grenades at them.
884
00:56:24,432 --> 00:56:26,833
None did any real damage,
885
00:56:26,932 --> 00:56:30,500
but the drivers were so
demoralized that they halted,
886
00:56:30,599 --> 00:56:35,532
turned around, and withdrew
behind the wrecked helicopters.
887
00:56:35,632 --> 00:56:37,532
From his spotter plane,
888
00:56:37,632 --> 00:56:41,766
Vann begged the ARVN to
make a simultaneous assault
889
00:56:41,865 --> 00:56:45,233
on the enemy by all the
remaining ground forces.
890
00:56:46,365 --> 00:56:49,365
ARVN commanders refused.
891
00:56:51,766 --> 00:56:54,733
That night, the Viet Cong melted away,
892
00:56:54,833 --> 00:56:58,233
carrying most of their dead
and wounded with them.
893
00:57:00,365 --> 00:57:04,432
At least 80 South Vietnamese
soldiers had been killed.
894
00:57:04,532 --> 00:57:09,900
So had three American advisors,
including Captain Ken Good,
895
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,132
a friend of Scanlon's.
896
00:57:15,032 --> 00:57:18,932
SCANLON: We stacked the armored
personnel carriers with bodies,
897
00:57:19,032 --> 00:57:20,733
stacked them up on top till they...
898
00:57:20,833 --> 00:57:22,666
we couldn't stack anymore.
899
00:57:22,766 --> 00:57:28,865
And, um, I wouldn't let the
Vietnamese touch the Americans.
900
00:57:28,965 --> 00:57:31,733
So I carried Americans out.
901
00:57:31,833 --> 00:57:34,099
And, um...
902
00:57:34,199 --> 00:57:36,400
And I was... I was exhausted.
903
00:57:36,500 --> 00:57:42,365
They told me about Ken Good getting killed.
904
00:57:42,465 --> 00:57:46,699
And Ken and I had worked so
hard with our two battalions.
905
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:52,599
And to hear that... he got killed hurt.
906
00:57:52,699 --> 00:57:54,333
(voice breaking): Great guy.
907
00:57:55,766 --> 00:57:57,965
NARRATOR: Reporters arrived from Saigon
908
00:57:58,065 --> 00:58:02,000
before all of the ARVN
dead could be removed.
909
00:58:02,099 --> 00:58:06,300
They were horrified at what
they saw and tried to find out
910
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,065
what had really happened.
911
00:58:09,166 --> 00:58:13,599
John Paul Vann took Neil Sheehan
and David Halberstam aside
912
00:58:13,699 --> 00:58:15,632
and told them.
913
00:58:15,733 --> 00:58:17,500
The Battle of Ap Bac had been
914
00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:20,333
"a miserable goddamn performance."
915
00:58:20,432 --> 00:58:22,565
"The ARVN won't listen," he said.
916
00:58:22,666 --> 00:58:25,599
"They make the same mistakes
over and over again
917
00:58:25,699 --> 00:58:27,733
in the same way."
918
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:30,900
But back in Saigon,
919
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,699
General Harkins immediately
declared victory.
920
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,800
"The ARVN forces had an
objective," he said.
921
00:58:37,900 --> 00:58:39,333
"We took that objective.
922
00:58:39,432 --> 00:58:42,932
"The VC left and their
casualties were greater
923
00:58:43,032 --> 00:58:45,599
"than those of the government forces.
924
00:58:45,699 --> 00:58:47,333
What more do you want?"
925
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,132
When Halberstam and Sheehan reported
926
00:58:51,233 --> 00:58:54,132
that Ap Bac had in fact been a defeat,
927
00:58:54,233 --> 00:58:58,300
the U.S. Commander in the
Pacific denied it all
928
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:03,932
and urged the reporters
to "get on the team."
929
00:59:04,032 --> 00:59:06,065
SHEEHAN: Ap Bac was terribly important.
930
00:59:06,166 --> 00:59:08,333
They had shot down five helicopters,
931
00:59:08,432 --> 00:59:10,833
which they previously
had been terrified of.
932
00:59:10,932 --> 00:59:15,000
They'd stopped the armored
personnel carriers.
933
00:59:15,099 --> 00:59:17,099
They demonstrated to their own people
934
00:59:17,199 --> 00:59:20,266
that you could resist
the Americans and win.
935
00:59:23,965 --> 00:59:26,199
LE QUAN CONG:
936
00:59:39,932 --> 00:59:43,699
NARRATOR: In Hanoi, the
Battle of Ap Bac was seen
937
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:48,400
by Party First Secretary Le
Duan and his Politburo allies
938
00:59:48,500 --> 00:59:50,699
as evidence of the inherent weakness
939
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,766
of the South Vietnamese regime.
940
00:59:53,865 --> 00:59:57,599
Even when faced with American
advisors and weaponry,
941
00:59:57,699 --> 01:00:01,465
the Viet Cong had learned how
to inflict heavy casualties
942
01:00:01,565 --> 01:00:05,365
on Saigon's forces, and get away again.
943
01:00:06,865 --> 01:00:10,666
In Saigon, President Diem
claimed the ARVN were winning,
944
01:00:10,766 --> 01:00:12,000
not losing.
945
01:00:12,099 --> 01:00:15,365
Ap Bac had only been a momentary setback.
946
01:00:15,465 --> 01:00:17,266
And he resented Americans telling him
947
01:00:17,365 --> 01:00:20,965
how to fight his battles
or run his country.
948
01:00:21,065 --> 01:00:26,065
The president's sister-in-law,
Madame Nhu, went further.
949
01:00:26,166 --> 01:00:30,565
She denounced the Americans
as "false brothers."
950
01:00:32,032 --> 01:00:34,833
"We don't have a prayer
of staying in Vietnam,"
951
01:00:34,932 --> 01:00:39,000
President Kennedy privately
told a friend that spring.
952
01:00:39,099 --> 01:00:41,166
"These people hate us.
953
01:00:41,266 --> 01:00:44,599
"But I can't give up a piece
of territory like that
954
01:00:44,699 --> 01:00:49,199
to the communists and then get
the people to reelect me."
955
01:00:53,300 --> 01:00:55,833
(loud commotion)
956
01:00:55,932 --> 01:00:57,541
ED HERLIHY: Buddhist monks
and nuns are joined
957
01:00:57,565 --> 01:00:58,965
by thousands of sympathizers
958
01:00:59,065 --> 01:01:00,733
to protest the government's restrictions
959
01:01:00,833 --> 01:01:03,766
on the practice of their
religion in South Vietnam.
960
01:01:05,365 --> 01:01:08,932
SHEEHAN: Diem began by
alienating the rural population.
961
01:01:09,032 --> 01:01:11,599
And that started the Viet Cong.
962
01:01:11,699 --> 01:01:14,532
And now he was alienating
the urban population.
963
01:01:14,632 --> 01:01:17,166
HERLIHY: Seventy percent of
the population is Buddhist
964
01:01:17,266 --> 01:01:18,841
and the demonstrators
clashed with the police
965
01:01:18,865 --> 01:01:23,032
during the week-long series
of incidents like this.
966
01:01:23,132 --> 01:01:26,532
NARRATOR: In the months that
followed the Battle of Ap Bac,
967
01:01:26,632 --> 01:01:31,300
South Vietnam plunged into civil
strife that had little to do
968
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,199
with the Viet Cong.
969
01:01:34,300 --> 01:01:38,266
Religion and nationalism were at its heart.
970
01:01:38,365 --> 01:01:42,099
A Catholic minority had for
years dominated the government
971
01:01:42,199 --> 01:01:45,032
of an overwhelmingly Buddhist country.
972
01:01:46,632 --> 01:01:49,032
That spring in the city of Hue,
973
01:01:49,132 --> 01:01:52,065
Christian flags had been flown to celebrate
974
01:01:52,166 --> 01:01:55,300
the 25th anniversary of the ordination
975
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,199
of Diem's older brother
as a Catholic bishop.
976
01:02:01,333 --> 01:02:04,666
But when the Buddhists of
the city flew their flags
977
01:02:04,766 --> 01:02:10,099
to celebrate the 2,527th
birthday of Lord Buddha,
978
01:02:10,199 --> 01:02:13,032
police tore them down.
979
01:02:13,132 --> 01:02:15,766
Protesters took to the streets.
980
01:02:17,865 --> 01:02:21,666
The Catholic deputy province
chief sent security forces
981
01:02:21,766 --> 01:02:24,565
to suppress the demonstration.
982
01:02:24,666 --> 01:02:26,233
The soldiers opened fire.
983
01:02:26,333 --> 01:02:27,233
(two gunshots)
984
01:02:27,333 --> 01:02:30,266
Eight protesters died.
985
01:02:30,365 --> 01:02:36,233
The youngest was 12; the oldest was 20.
986
01:02:36,333 --> 01:02:40,199
The Diem regime blamed the Viet Cong.
987
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,599
Monks throughout the country
demanded an apology.
988
01:02:54,465 --> 01:02:56,766
They also called for an
end to discrimination
989
01:02:56,865 --> 01:02:59,132
by Catholic officials.
990
01:02:59,233 --> 01:03:02,400
Many Buddhists had come
to see Diem's policies
991
01:03:02,500 --> 01:03:05,766
as a direct threat to
their religious beliefs.
992
01:03:08,565 --> 01:03:12,199
DUONG VAN MAI: My family was
against what Diem was doing.
993
01:03:12,300 --> 01:03:14,865
My mother was convinced
994
01:03:14,965 --> 01:03:18,900
that Diem was destroying
the Buddhist faith.
995
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:23,166
She would go to the pagodas and
listen to the monks' speeches.
996
01:03:23,266 --> 01:03:26,632
And she was just extremely upset.
997
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:29,199
She was not alone.
998
01:03:29,300 --> 01:03:32,099
There was a lot of people like her.
999
01:03:32,199 --> 01:03:36,132
NARRATOR: American officials
urged Diem and his brother Nhu
1000
01:03:36,233 --> 01:03:39,532
to make meaningful concessions
to the Buddhists,
1001
01:03:39,632 --> 01:03:41,666
for the sake of maintaining unity
1002
01:03:41,766 --> 01:03:44,300
in the struggle against communism.
1003
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,032
They refused.
1004
01:03:48,565 --> 01:03:53,532
On June 10, 1963, Malcolm
Browne of the Associated Press
1005
01:03:53,632 --> 01:03:56,500
received an anonymous tip:
1006
01:03:56,599 --> 01:03:59,766
something important was going
to happen the next day
1007
01:03:59,865 --> 01:04:03,266
at a major intersection in Saigon.
1008
01:04:03,365 --> 01:04:05,300
He took his camera.
1009
01:04:12,833 --> 01:04:16,199
To protest the Diem regime's repression,
1010
01:04:16,300 --> 01:04:22,699
a 73-year-old monk named Quang
Duc set himself on fire.
1011
01:04:40,300 --> 01:04:45,432
As a large, hushed crowd
watched him burn to death,
1012
01:04:45,532 --> 01:04:48,965
another monk repeated over and over again
1013
01:04:49,065 --> 01:04:52,000
in English and Vietnamese,
1014
01:04:52,099 --> 01:04:55,032
"A Buddhist monk becomes a martyr.
1015
01:04:55,132 --> 01:04:57,766
A Buddhist monk becomes a martyr."
1016
01:05:04,565 --> 01:05:07,432
SHEEHAN: I remember they held the ashes
1017
01:05:07,532 --> 01:05:10,032
of the monk who burned himself to death
1018
01:05:10,132 --> 01:05:13,132
where it was kept in one
of the main pagodas.
1019
01:05:13,233 --> 01:05:19,333
And lines of people came to
pass by, and I saw these women,
1020
01:05:19,432 --> 01:05:22,400
not rich women, ordinary Vietnamese women,
1021
01:05:22,500 --> 01:05:25,465
take off the one piece of gold
they had on, their wedding ring,
1022
01:05:25,565 --> 01:05:30,465
and drop it in the bottle to
contribute to the struggle.
1023
01:05:30,565 --> 01:05:34,400
And I thought to myself,
"This regime is over.
1024
01:05:34,500 --> 01:05:35,565
It's the end."
1025
01:05:39,666 --> 01:05:42,266
NARRATOR: Soon other monks
would become martyrs.
1026
01:05:45,532 --> 01:05:51,065
Fresh outbursts by Madame
Nhu only made things worse.
1027
01:05:51,166 --> 01:05:54,632
Burning monks made her
clap her hands, she said.
1028
01:05:54,733 --> 01:05:57,300
If more monks wanted to burn themselves,
1029
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,500
she would provide the matches.
1030
01:06:00,599 --> 01:06:02,465
The only thing they have done,
1031
01:06:02,565 --> 01:06:08,266
they have barbecued one of their monks,
1032
01:06:08,365 --> 01:06:13,900
whom they have intoxicated, whom
they have abused the confidence.
1033
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:18,300
And even that barbecuing was done
1034
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,632
not even with self-sufficient means
1035
01:06:20,733 --> 01:06:23,766
because they-they used imported gasoline.
1036
01:06:25,465 --> 01:06:28,099
DUONG VAN MAI: They
thought she was arrogant,
1037
01:06:28,199 --> 01:06:29,666
she was power hungry.
1038
01:06:29,766 --> 01:06:33,032
They suspected her and her
husband of being corrupt.
1039
01:06:33,132 --> 01:06:39,400
Nhu ran the secret police, which
arrested and tortured people.
1040
01:06:39,500 --> 01:06:42,699
People feared the Diem regime.
1041
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,365
Perhaps more than they feared
it, they really hated it.
1042
01:06:48,632 --> 01:06:51,266
NARRATOR: Students,
including many Catholics,
1043
01:06:51,365 --> 01:06:53,833
rallied to the Buddhist cause.
1044
01:06:53,932 --> 01:06:57,132
So did some army officers.
1045
01:06:57,233 --> 01:07:01,500
People among the military
had to ask the question,
1046
01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:04,900
"Can we continue this kind
of situation like that
1047
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,400
"when the whole country,
country was almost burning
1048
01:07:08,500 --> 01:07:10,209
with the kind of protest
from the Buddhists?"
1049
01:07:10,233 --> 01:07:11,233
You see?
1050
01:07:14,833 --> 01:07:18,766
ZIMMERMAN: I first became aware of
Vietnam because of a burning monk.
1051
01:07:21,300 --> 01:07:26,099
We had watched the civil
rights movement in the South
1052
01:07:26,199 --> 01:07:29,099
and it had set the standard for us
1053
01:07:29,199 --> 01:07:35,532
to stand up against injustice,
allow yourself to be beaten up,
1054
01:07:35,632 --> 01:07:37,932
allow yourself to be attacked by a dog
1055
01:07:38,032 --> 01:07:40,365
or hit by a police truncheon.
1056
01:07:40,465 --> 01:07:42,333
And we had enormous respect
1057
01:07:42,432 --> 01:07:45,565
for people who were willing to go that far.
1058
01:07:49,965 --> 01:07:52,865
And then one day in 1963,
1059
01:07:52,965 --> 01:07:57,400
we saw on television a
picture of a monk in Saigon.
1060
01:07:58,833 --> 01:08:00,965
This was an extraordinary act.
1061
01:08:03,365 --> 01:08:06,166
Why was a Buddhist monk burning himself
1062
01:08:06,266 --> 01:08:09,000
on the streets of Saigon?
1063
01:08:11,733 --> 01:08:14,132
NARRATOR: The protests continued.
1064
01:08:14,233 --> 01:08:19,065
Tensions between Washington
and Saigon steadily worsened.
1065
01:08:19,166 --> 01:08:23,065
The more the Kennedy
Administration demanded change,
1066
01:08:23,166 --> 01:08:27,132
the more Diem and his brother
Nhu seemed to resist.
1067
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,533
The White House announced that
a new American ambassador,
1068
01:08:31,632 --> 01:08:36,765
former senator Henry Cabot
Lodge, was being sent to Saigon,
1069
01:08:36,865 --> 01:08:39,332
a man eminent enough, the president hoped,
1070
01:08:39,432 --> 01:08:44,500
to make Diem listen more
closely to American advice.
1071
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,365
Diem professed to be unimpressed.
1072
01:08:48,466 --> 01:08:51,100
"They can send ten Lodges," he said,
1073
01:08:51,199 --> 01:08:55,132
"but I will not let myself
or my country be humiliated,
1074
01:08:55,233 --> 01:08:59,000
not if they train their
artillery on this palace."
1075
01:08:59,100 --> 01:09:03,666
He did promise the outgoing
ambassador, Frederick Nolting,
1076
01:09:03,765 --> 01:09:06,500
that he would take no
further repressive steps
1077
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,166
against the Buddhists.
1078
01:09:09,932 --> 01:09:15,166
Then, a few minutes after
midnight on August 21, 1963,
1079
01:09:15,265 --> 01:09:18,733
with Nolting gone and Henry
Cabot Lodge's arrival
1080
01:09:18,832 --> 01:09:22,365
still one day away, Diem
cut the phone lines
1081
01:09:22,466 --> 01:09:25,800
of all the senior American
officials in Saigon
1082
01:09:25,899 --> 01:09:29,432
and sent hundreds of his Special Forces
1083
01:09:29,533 --> 01:09:33,332
storming into Buddhist
pagodas in Saigon, Hue,
1084
01:09:33,432 --> 01:09:36,632
and several other South Vietnamese cities.
1085
01:09:36,733 --> 01:09:39,500
Some 1,400 monks and nuns,
1086
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:45,199
students and ordinary citizens
were rounded up and taken away.
1087
01:09:45,300 --> 01:09:48,865
(shouting)
1088
01:09:53,033 --> 01:09:57,466
Martial law was imposed, public
meetings were forbidden,
1089
01:09:57,565 --> 01:10:01,966
troops were authorized to shoot
anyone found on the streets
1090
01:10:02,065 --> 01:10:03,699
after 9:00.
1091
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:07,100
PETER ROBERTS: Tanks
guard a pagoda in Saigon
1092
01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:09,865
during South Vietnam's
bafflingly complicated crisis
1093
01:10:09,966 --> 01:10:12,966
that has the government of
President Ngo Dinh Diem,
1094
01:10:13,065 --> 01:10:16,800
students, and Buddhists, and
the United States government
1095
01:10:16,899 --> 01:10:20,500
all trying to guess one
another's next move.
1096
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,399
NARRATOR: When college students
protested in support of the monks,
1097
01:10:24,500 --> 01:10:28,033
Diem closed Vietnam's universities.
1098
01:10:28,132 --> 01:10:31,899
High school students then
poured into the streets.
1099
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,565
He shut down all the high schools
1100
01:10:34,666 --> 01:10:35,832
and the grammar schools, too,
1101
01:10:35,932 --> 01:10:39,166
and arrested thousands of school children,
1102
01:10:39,265 --> 01:10:42,132
including the sons and
daughters of officials
1103
01:10:42,233 --> 01:10:44,199
in his own government.
1104
01:10:44,300 --> 01:10:47,365
PHAN QUANG TUE: I participated
in the demonstrations.
1105
01:10:47,466 --> 01:10:54,332
I strongly believed that that
government has to be overthrown
1106
01:10:54,432 --> 01:10:56,533
because it's a dictator government.
1107
01:10:56,632 --> 01:10:58,600
We couldn't stand it anymore
1108
01:10:58,699 --> 01:11:02,365
and this is an opportunity
to rise against it.
1109
01:11:02,466 --> 01:11:06,432
NARRATOR: Phan Quang Tue was
a law student that summer.
1110
01:11:06,533 --> 01:11:10,432
His father was a prominent
nationalist whom Diem had jailed
1111
01:11:10,533 --> 01:11:13,765
for calling for greater democracy.
1112
01:11:13,865 --> 01:11:17,365
PHAN QUANG TUE: I was and
I'm still a Catholic,
1113
01:11:17,466 --> 01:11:19,699
not a very good Catholic.
1114
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,632
I don't practice religiously.
1115
01:11:21,733 --> 01:11:23,632
But I'm a Catholic.
1116
01:11:25,132 --> 01:11:26,565
I was rightly arrested
1117
01:11:26,666 --> 01:11:29,733
because I did participate in demonstration.
1118
01:11:29,832 --> 01:11:32,733
And I was interrogated
1119
01:11:32,832 --> 01:11:35,899
and briefly tortured, beaten a little bit.
1120
01:11:40,199 --> 01:11:43,000
HERLIHY: Henry Cabot Lodge
took over as U.S. ambassador
1121
01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:44,565
in the midst of the turmoil.
1122
01:11:44,666 --> 01:11:46,076
And he has reported to have demanded
1123
01:11:46,100 --> 01:11:48,265
that President Diem's brother Nhu be ousted
1124
01:11:48,365 --> 01:11:50,733
or U.S. aid to Vietnam will be cut.
1125
01:11:54,100 --> 01:11:56,000
NARRATOR: In the wake of the pagoda raids,
1126
01:11:56,100 --> 01:11:58,466
a small group of South Vietnamese generals
1127
01:11:58,565 --> 01:12:02,132
contacted the CIA in Saigon.
1128
01:12:02,233 --> 01:12:05,666
Diem's brother Nhu was
now largely in control
1129
01:12:05,765 --> 01:12:07,733
of the government, they said.
1130
01:12:07,832 --> 01:12:12,466
What would Washington's reaction
be if they mounted a coup?
1131
01:12:12,565 --> 01:12:15,565
President Kennedy and his senior advisors
1132
01:12:15,666 --> 01:12:20,466
happened to be out of town,
so Roger Hilsman, Jr.,
1133
01:12:20,565 --> 01:12:24,033
assistant secretary of state
for Far Eastern affairs
1134
01:12:24,132 --> 01:12:26,432
and a critic of the Diem regime,
1135
01:12:26,533 --> 01:12:30,565
took it upon himself to draft
a cable with new instructions
1136
01:12:30,666 --> 01:12:33,500
for Ambassador Lodge.
1137
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,466
The U.S. government could no
longer tolerate a situation
1138
01:12:37,565 --> 01:12:41,733
in which power lay in Nhu's hands, it said.
1139
01:12:41,832 --> 01:12:45,065
Diem should be given a chance
to rid himself of his brother.
1140
01:12:46,500 --> 01:12:50,033
If he refused, Lodge was
to tell the generals,
1141
01:12:50,132 --> 01:12:53,632
"then we must face the
possibility that Diem himself
1142
01:12:53,733 --> 01:12:57,500
cannot be preserved."
1143
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:01,233
The president was vacationing
at Hyannis Port, Massachusetts.
1144
01:13:01,332 --> 01:13:05,199
Undersecretary of State George
Ball read part of the cable
1145
01:13:05,300 --> 01:13:08,365
to him over the phone.
1146
01:13:08,466 --> 01:13:10,632
Since the early 1950s,
1147
01:13:10,733 --> 01:13:12,375
the United States government had encouraged
1148
01:13:12,399 --> 01:13:18,632
and even orchestrated other Cold
War coups in Iran, Guatemala,
1149
01:13:18,733 --> 01:13:23,132
the Congo, and elsewhere.
1150
01:13:23,233 --> 01:13:27,065
Kennedy decided to approve Hilsman's cable
1151
01:13:27,166 --> 01:13:30,300
in part because he thought his top advisors
1152
01:13:30,399 --> 01:13:32,432
had already endorsed it.
1153
01:13:32,533 --> 01:13:35,332
They had not.
1154
01:13:35,432 --> 01:13:40,533
And somehow, because of a cable
that came out from Washington,
1155
01:13:40,632 --> 01:13:43,932
Lodge decided that the only
solution was to get rid
1156
01:13:44,033 --> 01:13:47,733
of not just Ngo Dinh Nhu, the bad brother,
1157
01:13:47,832 --> 01:13:50,265
but also of Diem himself.
1158
01:13:50,365 --> 01:13:52,432
And that started us on this whole business
1159
01:13:52,533 --> 01:13:55,300
of promoting a coup.
1160
01:13:55,399 --> 01:13:58,765
And it was not a good idea.
1161
01:13:58,865 --> 01:14:01,632
I just had a feeling of impending disaster.
1162
01:14:02,832 --> 01:14:05,432
NARRATOR: On September 2, 1963,
1163
01:14:05,533 --> 01:14:09,166
Labor Day, Walter Cronkite of CBS News
1164
01:14:09,265 --> 01:14:11,765
interviewed President Kennedy.
1165
01:14:11,865 --> 01:14:15,865
The president used the
opportunity to deliver a message
1166
01:14:15,966 --> 01:14:17,733
to President Diem.
1167
01:14:17,832 --> 01:14:21,565
Mr. President, the only hot war
we've got running at the moment
1168
01:14:21,666 --> 01:14:24,132
is of course the one in Vietnam,
1169
01:14:24,233 --> 01:14:27,065
and we've got our difficulties
there, quite obviously.
1170
01:14:27,166 --> 01:14:31,666
I don't think that unless
a greater effort is made
1171
01:14:31,765 --> 01:14:33,632
by the government to win popular support
1172
01:14:33,733 --> 01:14:35,100
that the war can be won out there.
1173
01:14:35,199 --> 01:14:37,065
In the final analysis, it's their war.
1174
01:14:37,166 --> 01:14:41,033
Hasn't every indication from Saigon been
1175
01:14:41,132 --> 01:14:43,166
that President Diem has no intention
1176
01:14:43,265 --> 01:14:44,166
of changing his pattern?
1177
01:14:44,265 --> 01:14:45,166
If he doesn't change it,
1178
01:14:45,265 --> 01:14:47,100
of course, that's his decision.
1179
01:14:47,199 --> 01:14:49,199
He has been there ten years and, as I say,
1180
01:14:49,300 --> 01:14:50,565
he has carried this burden
1181
01:14:50,666 --> 01:14:52,076
when he has been counted out
on a number of occasions.
1182
01:14:52,100 --> 01:14:53,100
Our best judgment is
1183
01:14:53,199 --> 01:14:55,699
that he can't be successful in this basis.
1184
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,365
But I don't agree with those
who say we should withdraw.
1185
01:14:58,466 --> 01:14:59,666
That would be a great mistake.
1186
01:14:59,733 --> 01:15:01,000
That'd be a great mistake.
1187
01:15:01,100 --> 01:15:03,020
I know people don't like
Americans to be engaged
1188
01:15:03,065 --> 01:15:04,105
in this kind of an effort.
1189
01:15:04,166 --> 01:15:06,533
47 Americans have been killed.
1190
01:15:06,632 --> 01:15:08,533
We're in a very
1191
01:15:08,632 --> 01:15:11,399
desperate struggle against
the communist system.
1192
01:15:11,500 --> 01:15:14,733
And I don't want Asia to pass
into the control of the Chinese.
1193
01:15:14,832 --> 01:15:16,966
Do you think that this
government still has time
1194
01:15:17,065 --> 01:15:19,500
to-to regain the support of the people?
1195
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,033
I do.
1196
01:15:22,132 --> 01:15:24,832
With changes in policy and
perhaps in personnel,
1197
01:15:24,932 --> 01:15:26,365
I think it can.
1198
01:15:26,466 --> 01:15:29,733
If it doesn't make those changes,
1199
01:15:29,832 --> 01:15:32,033
I would think that the
chances of winning it
1200
01:15:32,132 --> 01:15:33,800
would not be very good.
1201
01:15:35,533 --> 01:15:38,332
NARRATOR: Despite the cable,
Kennedy and his advisors
1202
01:15:38,432 --> 01:15:41,765
were sharply divided about a coup.
1203
01:15:41,865 --> 01:15:47,132
Robert McNamara, Maxwell Taylor,
Vice President Lyndon Johnson,
1204
01:15:47,233 --> 01:15:51,565
and the head of the CIA
all cautioned against it,
1205
01:15:51,666 --> 01:15:55,065
because, while none of them
especially admired Diem,
1206
01:15:55,166 --> 01:15:59,733
they did not believe there
was any viable alternative.
1207
01:15:59,832 --> 01:16:02,800
GREGG: Fritz Nolting was called in.
1208
01:16:02,899 --> 01:16:05,332
And he said, "As difficult
as they are to deal with,
1209
01:16:05,432 --> 01:16:10,365
"there is nobody with the
guts and sangfroid in Vietnam
1210
01:16:10,466 --> 01:16:12,166
"of Diem and his brother Nhu.
1211
01:16:12,265 --> 01:16:15,632
"And if we let them go we will be saddled
1212
01:16:15,733 --> 01:16:19,600
by a descending cycle
of mediocre generals."
1213
01:16:19,699 --> 01:16:21,666
And he was absolutely correct.
1214
01:16:23,332 --> 01:16:26,166
NARRATOR: But several State
Department officials believed
1215
01:16:26,265 --> 01:16:31,000
that without fresh leadership,
South Vietnam could not survive.
1216
01:16:31,100 --> 01:16:34,365
The debate intensified.
1217
01:16:35,533 --> 01:16:37,399
"My God," the president said,
1218
01:16:37,500 --> 01:16:40,832
"my administration is coming apart."
1219
01:16:40,932 --> 01:16:44,265
In the end, Kennedy instructed Lodge
1220
01:16:44,365 --> 01:16:46,666
to tell the renegade generals
1221
01:16:46,765 --> 01:16:49,065
that while the United States does not wish
1222
01:16:49,166 --> 01:16:53,233
to stimulate a coup, it would
not thwart one either.
1223
01:16:54,733 --> 01:16:57,765
The generals laid their plans.
1224
01:16:57,865 --> 01:17:00,365
(gunfire)
1225
01:17:04,100 --> 01:17:09,699
On November 1, 1963, troops
loyal to the plotters
1226
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:11,899
seized key installations in Saigon
1227
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,466
and demanded Diem and Nhu surrender.
1228
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,432
REPORTER: The battle for the
city went on for 18 hours
1229
01:17:20,533 --> 01:17:23,765
and most of it was centered
on the presidential palace.
1230
01:17:23,865 --> 01:17:27,332
Just after 6:30 in the morning
Saturday, the shooting ceased.
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(people cheering)
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NARRATOR: Diem and Nhu escaped,
took sanctuary in a church,
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and agreed to surrender
to the rebels in exchange
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01:17:44,733 --> 01:17:48,466
for the promise of safe
passage out of the country.
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01:17:48,565 --> 01:17:52,033
They were picked up in an
armored personnel carrier...
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01:17:52,132 --> 01:17:54,033
(gunshot)
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01:17:54,132 --> 01:17:58,233
And murdered soon after
they climbed inside.
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01:17:58,332 --> 01:17:59,666
(gunshot)
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01:18:03,033 --> 01:18:06,399
Madame Nhu survived the coup.
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01:18:06,500 --> 01:18:09,765
She was on a goodwill tour
in the United States.
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01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,533
PHAN QUANG TUE: The system was
overthrown on November 1.
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01:18:17,632 --> 01:18:20,233
I was released November 4.
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01:18:20,332 --> 01:18:26,432
And it was the most exciting
moment in the life of Saigon.
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01:18:28,265 --> 01:18:33,533
The excitement, you could
feel it in the air.
1245
01:18:33,632 --> 01:18:38,065
DUONG VAN MAI: I was thinking
that, yeah, it's a good thing.
1246
01:18:38,166 --> 01:18:41,800
Diem was making it
impossible to win the war
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01:18:41,899 --> 01:18:45,365
because people were so against him
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01:18:45,466 --> 01:18:49,966
that the war would be lost
if he stayed in power.
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01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,666
My father was a bit worried
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01:18:53,765 --> 01:18:55,885
because he didn't know who
was going to replace Diem.
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01:18:58,666 --> 01:19:01,199
NARRATOR: Ambassador Lodge
reported to Washington
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01:19:01,300 --> 01:19:05,832
that "every Vietnamese has a
smile on his face today."
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01:19:05,932 --> 01:19:09,533
"The prospects are now for
a shorter war," he said,
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01:19:09,632 --> 01:19:12,500
"provided the generals stay together.
1255
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,332
"Certainly officers and soldiers
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01:19:15,432 --> 01:19:18,533
who can pull off an operation
like this," he continued,
1257
01:19:18,632 --> 01:19:21,966
"should be able to do very
well on the battlefield
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01:19:22,065 --> 01:19:24,533
if their hearts are in it."
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01:19:27,300 --> 01:19:30,432
President Kennedy was not so sure.
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01:19:30,533 --> 01:19:34,765
He was appalled that Diem
and Nhu had been killed.
1261
01:19:34,865 --> 01:19:38,466
Three days later, he dictated
his own rueful account
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01:19:38,565 --> 01:19:42,699
of the coup and his
concerns for the future.
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01:19:44,300 --> 01:19:48,100
KENNEDY: Monday, November 4, 1963.
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01:19:48,199 --> 01:19:51,132
Over the weekend the coup
in Saigon took place.
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01:19:51,233 --> 01:19:54,000
It culminated three months of conversation,
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01:19:54,100 --> 01:19:59,265
which divided the government
here and in Saigon.
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01:19:59,365 --> 01:20:04,466
I feel that we must bear a good
deal of responsibility for it,
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01:20:04,565 --> 01:20:07,500
beginning with our cable of August
1269
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,199
in which we suggested the coup.
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01:20:10,300 --> 01:20:13,100
I should not have given my consent to it
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01:20:13,199 --> 01:20:15,466
without a roundtable conference.
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01:20:17,500 --> 01:20:22,865
I was shocked by the death of Diem and Nhu.
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01:20:22,966 --> 01:20:27,000
The way he was killed made
it particularly abhorrent.
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01:20:27,100 --> 01:20:29,632
The question now is whether the
generals can stay together
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01:20:29,733 --> 01:20:33,500
and build a stable government or
whether public opinion in Saigon
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01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:37,265
will turn on this government
as repressive and undemocratic
1277
01:20:37,365 --> 01:20:39,300
in the not-too-distant future.
1278
01:20:44,332 --> 01:20:46,632
NARRATOR: Kennedy would not
live to see the answer
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01:20:46,733 --> 01:20:49,233
to the question he had asked.
1280
01:20:49,332 --> 01:20:53,733
He was murdered in Dallas 18 days later.
1281
01:20:53,832 --> 01:20:58,800
There were now 16,000 American
advisors in South Vietnam.
1282
01:20:58,899 --> 01:21:04,233
Their fate and the fate of
that embattled country rested
1283
01:21:04,332 --> 01:21:09,500
with another American president,
Lyndon Baines Johnson.
1284
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:13,565
(distorted rock music playing)
1285
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,160
SHEEHAN: We thought we were
the exceptions to history,
1286
01:21:29,233 --> 01:21:30,699
we Americans.
1287
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,432
History didn't apply to us.
1288
01:21:33,533 --> 01:21:35,666
We could never fight a bad war.
1289
01:21:35,765 --> 01:21:37,632
We could never represent the wrong cause.
1290
01:21:37,733 --> 01:21:38,865
We were Americans.
1291
01:21:40,065 --> 01:21:41,300
Well, in Vietnam it proved
1292
01:21:41,399 --> 01:21:43,899
that we were not an exception to history.
1293
01:21:45,132 --> 01:21:47,432
(distorted rock music continues)
1294
01:21:56,399 --> 01:21:58,800
("Mean Old World" by Sam Cooke playing)
1295
01:22:03,100 --> 01:22:11,100
♪ This is a mean old world
to live in all by yourself ♪
1296
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:22,832
♪ This is a mean old world to live in ♪
1297
01:22:22,932 --> 01:22:25,632
♪ All by yourself
1298
01:22:29,466 --> 01:22:36,500
♪ This is a mean world to be alone ♪
1299
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:42,533
♪ Without someone to call your own ♪
1300
01:22:42,632 --> 01:22:48,632
♪ This is a mean old world
to try and live in ♪
1301
01:22:48,733 --> 01:22:51,199
♪ All by yourself
1302
01:22:55,432 --> 01:23:01,533
♪ I wish I had someone, someone ♪
1303
01:23:01,632 --> 01:23:03,865
♪ Who'd love me true
1304
01:23:08,300 --> 01:23:16,300
♪ I wish I had someone
who loved me true ♪
1305
01:23:21,132 --> 01:23:27,500
♪ If I had someone who loved me true ♪
1306
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:34,100
♪ Then I know I wouldn't be so blue ♪
1307
01:23:34,199 --> 01:23:40,765
♪ This is a mean old world
to try and live in ♪
1308
01:23:40,865 --> 01:23:43,365
♪ All by yourself
1309
01:23:45,632 --> 01:23:53,632
♪ Lord, I find myself dreaming
1310
01:23:53,899 --> 01:23:56,132
♪ I found a love
1311
01:23:59,533 --> 01:24:06,800
♪ Sometimes I find myself dreaming ♪
1312
01:24:06,899 --> 01:24:10,199
♪ I found a love
1313
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:20,500
♪ Sometimes I dream I've
really found a love ♪
1314
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:26,533
♪ Someone who loved me
true as the stars above ♪
1315
01:24:26,632 --> 01:24:32,100
♪ For this is a mean old
world to try and live in ♪
1316
01:24:32,199 --> 01:24:36,399
♪ All by yourself.
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01:24:39,865 --> 01:24:46,399
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