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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,935 --> 00:00:04,743 I'm Dr. Jason Bull. I'm not a lawyer. 2 00:00:04,745 --> 00:00:08,280 I'm an expert in what's called trial science. 3 00:00:08,282 --> 00:00:11,984 I study the jury's behavioral patterns. 4 00:00:11,986 --> 00:00:14,869 I know what they're thinking before they do. 5 00:00:15,589 --> 00:00:19,274 Everything my team learns gets plugged into a matrix, 6 00:00:19,276 --> 00:00:22,010 which allows us to assemble a mirror jury 7 00:00:22,012 --> 00:00:25,147 that is scary in its predictive efficiency. 8 00:00:27,435 --> 00:00:30,111 The verdict you get depends on me. 9 00:00:30,136 --> 00:00:32,864 And that's no bull. 10 00:00:32,889 --> 00:00:36,684 - Synced and corrected by VitoSilans - -- www.Addic7ed.com -- 11 00:00:42,166 --> 00:00:45,501 Welcome to Open and Shut with Ellen Huff, 12 00:00:45,503 --> 00:00:47,002 a true crime podcast 13 00:00:47,004 --> 00:00:49,788 investigating the unsolved murder of college athlete 14 00:00:49,790 --> 00:00:52,498 Mike Tasker, considered a "golden boy" 15 00:00:52,523 --> 00:00:54,293 for Hudson University's basketball team. 16 00:00:54,295 --> 00:00:55,677 Three years ago, 17 00:00:55,679 --> 00:00:59,298 Mike was found shot to death in Central Park, 18 00:00:59,300 --> 00:01:01,383 the apparent victim of a robbery gone bad. 19 00:01:01,385 --> 00:01:04,103 With no leads since the murder, 20 00:01:04,128 --> 00:01:05,554 the case had gone cold... 21 00:01:05,556 --> 00:01:07,055 That is, until earlier this year 22 00:01:07,057 --> 00:01:09,452 Open and Shut unearthed a rape allegation 23 00:01:09,477 --> 00:01:11,977 from another college student named Reese Burton 24 00:01:11,979 --> 00:01:13,812 that the police knew nothing about. 25 00:01:13,814 --> 00:01:16,899 Three years ago, she filed an anonymous complaint 26 00:01:16,901 --> 00:01:19,651 accusing Mike of sexually assaulting her on campus. 27 00:01:19,653 --> 00:01:22,037 The next week, Reese bought a gun, 28 00:01:22,039 --> 00:01:23,705 began stalking Mike, 29 00:01:23,707 --> 00:01:25,591 and the following week, she threatened him. 30 00:01:25,616 --> 00:01:27,996 That was the night he was killed. 31 00:01:28,022 --> 00:01:29,402 All of this was unknown 32 00:01:29,427 --> 00:01:31,697 until my investigation began. 33 00:01:31,699 --> 00:01:33,549 Three years later, Reese's DNA 34 00:01:33,551 --> 00:01:35,167 has been placed at the scene of the murder, 35 00:01:35,169 --> 00:01:36,502 a damning piece of evidence 36 00:01:36,504 --> 00:01:38,670 that will most certainly land Reese behind bars. 37 00:01:38,672 --> 00:01:42,591 You are listening to Open and Shut with Ellen Huff. 38 00:01:42,593 --> 00:01:44,560 The news media has gone wild 39 00:01:44,562 --> 00:01:47,012 over the sensational new podcast Open and Shut. 40 00:01:47,014 --> 00:01:48,981 If the cops arrest you, 41 00:01:48,983 --> 00:01:50,983 you're guilty of something. 42 00:01:50,985 --> 00:01:53,318 I love being a part of something everyone's talking about. 43 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:54,853 It makes me feel connected. 44 00:01:54,855 --> 00:01:56,104 Sad to say, 45 00:01:56,106 --> 00:01:58,190 a good story spreads faster than the truth. 46 00:01:58,192 --> 00:02:01,076 Doesn't matter if you really did it. 47 00:02:01,078 --> 00:02:04,196 All that matters is that people think you did it. 48 00:02:04,198 --> 00:02:07,282 You don't look like a lawyer from Legal Aid. 49 00:02:07,284 --> 00:02:09,535 Technically, I'm a psychologist. 50 00:02:09,537 --> 00:02:12,955 I'm... Dr. Jason Bull. 51 00:02:12,957 --> 00:02:15,290 Are you analyzing me? 52 00:02:15,292 --> 00:02:16,675 Yes. 53 00:02:16,677 --> 00:02:18,210 But that's not why I'm here. 54 00:02:18,212 --> 00:02:20,596 I'm here because you need help. A lot of help. 55 00:02:20,598 --> 00:02:22,431 Not the kind of help you're gonna get from Legal Aid. 56 00:02:22,433 --> 00:02:26,134 Trial Analysis Corporation? 57 00:02:26,136 --> 00:02:27,886 How do you help with trials? 58 00:02:27,888 --> 00:02:31,023 I change people's minds for a living. 59 00:02:31,025 --> 00:02:33,025 Especially the jury's. 60 00:02:33,027 --> 00:02:35,277 Have you heard the podcast? 61 00:02:35,279 --> 00:02:36,562 No. 62 00:02:36,564 --> 00:02:39,314 It's not really my thing. 63 00:02:39,316 --> 00:02:41,783 I don't believe in "open and shut," 64 00:02:41,785 --> 00:02:44,870 especially when it's made to entertain 25 million people. 65 00:02:44,872 --> 00:02:47,456 I want to hear you tell me the story. 66 00:02:47,458 --> 00:02:50,075 Right. 67 00:02:50,077 --> 00:02:52,294 Last time a stranger approached me 68 00:02:52,296 --> 00:02:54,913 and asked for my story, well... 69 00:02:54,915 --> 00:02:56,632 Ellen Huff sandbagged me 70 00:02:56,634 --> 00:02:59,084 and twisted everything I said to make me into a killer. 71 00:02:59,086 --> 00:03:01,470 So you can't blame me if my trust is wearing thin. 72 00:03:01,472 --> 00:03:03,755 Okay. 73 00:03:03,757 --> 00:03:05,307 I understand. 74 00:03:05,309 --> 00:03:07,843 Enjoy prison. It was nice to meet you. 75 00:03:10,231 --> 00:03:11,263 Wait. 76 00:03:11,265 --> 00:03:13,599 Where are you going? 77 00:03:13,601 --> 00:03:16,768 Well, I thought we were through. 78 00:03:18,939 --> 00:03:20,939 Why do you think I'm innocent? 79 00:03:26,030 --> 00:03:30,115 Because rape survivors react in different ways. 80 00:03:30,117 --> 00:03:32,351 And rage is one of those. 81 00:03:33,621 --> 00:03:36,455 Enough rage to kill their perpetrator? 82 00:03:36,457 --> 00:03:37,956 Absolutely. 83 00:03:37,958 --> 00:03:39,791 But that's not how you reacted. 84 00:03:39,793 --> 00:03:41,293 The way you reacted... 85 00:03:41,295 --> 00:03:44,880 You can't fake that kind of pain. 86 00:03:46,634 --> 00:03:47,966 Why don't you tell me 87 00:03:47,968 --> 00:03:50,519 why this podcast is full of crap? 88 00:04:00,648 --> 00:04:04,316 I met Mike at this Phi Delt party. 89 00:04:04,318 --> 00:04:06,535 He walked me home. 90 00:04:07,571 --> 00:04:09,571 He asked to use the bathroom. 91 00:04:14,628 --> 00:04:16,795 I was so naive. 92 00:04:17,831 --> 00:04:20,382 The next day, I reported it to the administration. 93 00:04:20,384 --> 00:04:22,551 I... 94 00:04:22,553 --> 00:04:25,003 They said they would "look into it." 95 00:04:25,005 --> 00:04:27,172 But the Hudson University basketball team 96 00:04:27,174 --> 00:04:28,924 made it into the finals that year. 97 00:04:28,926 --> 00:04:30,142 Ah. 98 00:04:30,144 --> 00:04:32,177 And they were gonna protect their star player. 99 00:04:32,179 --> 00:04:33,595 Didn't matter. 100 00:04:33,597 --> 00:04:34,813 A few weeks later, Mike was dead 101 00:04:34,815 --> 00:04:36,481 and that was the end of it. 102 00:04:36,483 --> 00:04:37,864 I got a job, made new friends, 103 00:04:37,889 --> 00:04:39,318 put it behind me. 104 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,436 And then, three years later, Ellen Huff 105 00:04:41,438 --> 00:04:43,355 uncovers your complaint against Mike? 106 00:04:43,357 --> 00:04:46,191 Yeah, this claim that I filed anonymously. 107 00:04:46,193 --> 00:04:49,528 'Cause I didn't want to forever be that girl... 108 00:04:49,530 --> 00:04:50,862 that girl that was raped. 109 00:04:50,864 --> 00:04:53,198 After Ellen outed me, 110 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,950 the police reopened the case. 111 00:04:54,952 --> 00:04:57,836 They said that my hair matched a hair on Mike's jacket, 112 00:04:57,838 --> 00:05:02,207 and boom, my world is upside-down. 113 00:05:02,209 --> 00:05:04,092 But Ellen twisted all the facts. 114 00:05:04,094 --> 00:05:06,428 What about this hair on the jacket 115 00:05:06,430 --> 00:05:07,913 that's a perfect DNA match? 116 00:05:07,915 --> 00:05:10,215 That makes sense. 117 00:05:10,217 --> 00:05:13,301 The night Mike was killed, he was wearing the same jacket 118 00:05:13,303 --> 00:05:15,470 as the night he wore when he... 119 00:05:18,058 --> 00:05:20,442 ...you know. 120 00:05:22,696 --> 00:05:24,780 I didn't kill Mike. 121 00:05:26,650 --> 00:05:28,984 I believe you. 122 00:05:34,658 --> 00:05:36,708 Can you get me out of here? 123 00:05:38,912 --> 00:05:40,962 I take it this case is pro bono. 124 00:05:40,964 --> 00:05:43,298 Which is why you need to try it. 125 00:05:43,300 --> 00:05:44,800 Think that's a compliment? 126 00:05:44,802 --> 00:05:46,885 You have heard the podcast. 127 00:05:46,887 --> 00:05:48,587 I will, as soon as we've done our research. 128 00:05:48,589 --> 00:05:50,138 And I know she was a victim. 129 00:05:50,140 --> 00:05:51,473 She's still a victim, 130 00:05:51,475 --> 00:05:53,258 a second time. 131 00:05:53,260 --> 00:05:55,677 We're trying this case, Benny. 132 00:05:55,679 --> 00:05:56,762 Okay. 133 00:05:56,764 --> 00:05:59,064 Good. Good. 134 00:05:59,066 --> 00:06:02,267 I've been eager to step back in the ring with the D.A.'s office. 135 00:06:02,269 --> 00:06:05,020 I wonder who I get to knock gloves with. 136 00:06:12,196 --> 00:06:14,496 Amanda. 137 00:06:14,498 --> 00:06:17,032 Did you know she was prosecuting this case? 138 00:06:20,003 --> 00:06:21,119 Benny. 139 00:06:21,121 --> 00:06:22,454 Amanda. 140 00:06:22,456 --> 00:06:24,673 What a surprise. 141 00:06:24,675 --> 00:06:26,675 I heard you were working with your brother-in-law. 142 00:06:26,677 --> 00:06:28,760 Ex-brother-in-law. Dr. Jason Bull. 143 00:06:28,762 --> 00:06:30,462 Your reputation precedes you. 144 00:06:32,132 --> 00:06:33,682 So... how have you been? 145 00:06:33,684 --> 00:06:34,800 Busy. 146 00:06:34,802 --> 00:06:36,301 I didn't realize 147 00:06:36,303 --> 00:06:37,719 you were still trying cases. 148 00:06:37,721 --> 00:06:38,804 I was fired. 149 00:06:38,806 --> 00:06:40,639 I didn't die. 150 00:06:40,641 --> 00:06:42,190 That's not what I meant. 151 00:06:42,192 --> 00:06:44,309 Anyways, you shouldn't take this to trial. 152 00:06:44,311 --> 00:06:45,527 It's open and shut. 153 00:06:45,529 --> 00:06:46,778 All rise. 154 00:06:46,780 --> 00:06:49,915 The Superior Court of New York is now in session. 155 00:06:49,917 --> 00:06:52,701 State v. Reese Burton, 156 00:06:52,703 --> 00:06:57,372 case number 0255348. 157 00:06:58,292 --> 00:06:59,875 How do you plead? 158 00:07:04,164 --> 00:07:06,298 Not guilty, Your Honor. 159 00:07:07,417 --> 00:07:08,967 Reese, it's a good sign 160 00:07:08,969 --> 00:07:10,502 the judge granted bail. 161 00:07:10,504 --> 00:07:13,538 Chin up, back straight, don't smile, don't frown, 162 00:07:13,540 --> 00:07:15,173 - don't look at anyone. - Reese! 163 00:07:15,175 --> 00:07:16,608 You're not guilty, there's nothing to be ashamed of. 164 00:07:16,610 --> 00:07:18,643 Reese, do you expect a fair trial? 165 00:07:20,647 --> 00:07:21,680 I can't catch my breath. 166 00:07:21,682 --> 00:07:23,515 Okay. Taxi! 167 00:07:26,019 --> 00:07:27,853 Hey, reporters, media! 168 00:07:27,855 --> 00:07:29,020 Have we got a show for you! 169 00:07:29,022 --> 00:07:30,856 Whoa! 170 00:07:30,858 --> 00:07:33,358 So gather round, gather round, ladies and gentlemen! 171 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,861 Whatever your pleasure, we here, we got a great show for you! 172 00:07:35,863 --> 00:07:37,245 Now, I know you don't want to... 173 00:07:38,999 --> 00:07:40,970 ...that you really don't want to talk to. 174 00:07:43,837 --> 00:07:46,171 Are we on The Amazing Race? 175 00:07:46,173 --> 00:07:48,039 'Cause I left my running heels at home. 176 00:07:48,041 --> 00:07:49,007 Right. 177 00:07:49,009 --> 00:07:50,542 I just want to get back to TAC 178 00:07:50,544 --> 00:07:51,793 and start testing this case. 179 00:07:51,795 --> 00:07:53,595 Look, if this is about Amanda... 180 00:07:53,597 --> 00:07:54,679 Whoa, hey. 181 00:07:54,681 --> 00:07:56,264 Are you accusing me of fast walking 182 00:07:56,266 --> 00:07:58,016 to avoid talking about Amanda? 183 00:07:58,018 --> 00:07:59,434 Defensive much? 184 00:08:00,354 --> 00:08:02,354 How did you guys end it? 185 00:08:02,356 --> 00:08:04,105 Not well. 186 00:08:04,107 --> 00:08:04,794 You know? 187 00:08:04,819 --> 00:08:06,641 I didn't plan to quit the D.A.'s office, 188 00:08:06,643 --> 00:08:08,944 but there I was, in front of two reporters, 189 00:08:08,946 --> 00:08:11,446 about to get a conviction on a man I knew was innocent. 190 00:08:11,448 --> 00:08:12,898 I just... 191 00:08:12,900 --> 00:08:14,950 I couldn't do it. 192 00:08:14,952 --> 00:08:17,953 You're the Jerry Maguire of the American judicial system. 193 00:08:17,955 --> 00:08:19,788 Yeah, well... 194 00:08:19,790 --> 00:08:23,208 I guess I thought Amanda was gonna be my Ren�e Zellweger. 195 00:08:23,210 --> 00:08:25,160 That she'd come with me when I left. 196 00:08:25,162 --> 00:08:26,912 Her loss, our gain. 197 00:08:28,582 --> 00:08:30,916 Don't sweat the mock trial, okay? 198 00:08:30,918 --> 00:08:32,884 It's all just part of the process. 199 00:08:32,886 --> 00:08:36,922 I'm not worried, I just don't like the idea of 200 00:08:36,924 --> 00:08:39,307 having more strangers judging me. 201 00:08:39,309 --> 00:08:40,842 I can't imagine why. 202 00:08:41,929 --> 00:08:43,862 So, certain tonal frequencies 203 00:08:43,864 --> 00:08:47,649 are known to have a measurable effect on brain function, 204 00:08:47,651 --> 00:08:50,602 and I wrote this app that creates music 205 00:08:50,604 --> 00:08:53,104 to help you relax, focus... 206 00:08:53,106 --> 00:08:55,473 It helps me to block out distractions... 207 00:08:55,475 --> 00:08:57,909 Namely, Dr. Bull. 208 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,833 I like it. 209 00:09:04,835 --> 00:09:07,452 It's not exactly Tin Lizard, but... 210 00:09:07,454 --> 00:09:09,054 it's cool. 211 00:09:09,056 --> 00:09:11,006 You're into the Lizard? 212 00:09:12,125 --> 00:09:13,008 They're awesome. 213 00:09:13,010 --> 00:09:15,010 Okay, well, I might have info 214 00:09:15,012 --> 00:09:16,678 that they're playing a super secret show 215 00:09:16,680 --> 00:09:18,847 and you should totally come. 216 00:09:18,849 --> 00:09:19,881 Yeah, yeah. 217 00:09:19,883 --> 00:09:21,383 I just might have plans. 218 00:09:21,385 --> 00:09:23,101 You know, like jail. 219 00:09:23,103 --> 00:09:24,970 Have faith. 220 00:09:24,972 --> 00:09:27,806 Dr. Bull might be generationally challenged, 221 00:09:27,808 --> 00:09:28,940 but he's the best. 222 00:09:28,942 --> 00:09:31,026 Where is Dr. Bull? 223 00:09:31,028 --> 00:09:33,144 Prosecuting your case 224 00:09:33,146 --> 00:09:34,229 right how. 225 00:09:34,231 --> 00:09:37,015 The week after she filed an assault claim, 226 00:09:37,017 --> 00:09:38,383 Reese went out and purchased 227 00:09:38,385 --> 00:09:39,834 a nine-millimeter handgun. 228 00:09:39,836 --> 00:09:42,287 And two weeks later, she got her chance to use it. 229 00:09:42,289 --> 00:09:44,990 She followed Mike to a concert in Central Park. 230 00:09:44,992 --> 00:09:48,076 She threatened to shoot him 231 00:09:48,078 --> 00:09:52,330 and, hours later, Mike Tasker was shot to death. 232 00:09:52,332 --> 00:09:54,549 Bull would've made a hell of a prosecutor. 233 00:09:54,551 --> 00:09:55,634 Huh. 234 00:09:55,636 --> 00:09:58,103 Never seen the trend line spike so fast. 235 00:09:58,105 --> 00:09:59,337 I mean, 70's a problem. 236 00:09:59,339 --> 00:10:01,890 80's.... intent to convict. 237 00:10:01,892 --> 00:10:04,909 90's... burn her at the stake. 238 00:10:06,780 --> 00:10:08,396 She's guilty. 239 00:10:08,398 --> 00:10:09,108 I agree. 240 00:10:09,133 --> 00:10:10,682 Who heard her making the threat? 241 00:10:10,684 --> 00:10:11,766 I mean, did that really happen? 242 00:10:11,768 --> 00:10:14,269 It was Mike's friend, Rob McKellen. 243 00:10:14,271 --> 00:10:16,071 They're bringing things up from the podcast. 244 00:10:16,073 --> 00:10:18,315 I thought we put together people who hadn't heard it. 245 00:10:18,340 --> 00:10:21,776 I did, and we instructed them not to listen to it. 246 00:10:21,778 --> 00:10:23,111 What? 247 00:10:23,113 --> 00:10:26,581 These two were downloading the podcast during lunch? 248 00:10:26,583 --> 00:10:28,116 As soon as they left the building. 249 00:10:28,118 --> 00:10:29,200 It's wet paint. 250 00:10:29,202 --> 00:10:31,536 They can't help but touch it. 251 00:10:31,538 --> 00:10:33,755 It's corrupted every member of the jury. 252 00:10:34,875 --> 00:10:36,424 We need to sequester the jury. 253 00:10:36,426 --> 00:10:40,879 Judge Rand has denied 22 requests for sequesters 254 00:10:40,881 --> 00:10:45,350 out of 22, citing "a waste of taxpayer dollars." 255 00:10:45,352 --> 00:10:47,052 Well, the podcast is already out there. 256 00:10:47,054 --> 00:10:49,387 It's been field-tested by 25 million people. 257 00:10:49,389 --> 00:10:51,189 If Amanda follows Ellen's narrative, 258 00:10:51,191 --> 00:10:52,273 she'll get a conviction. 259 00:10:52,275 --> 00:10:53,525 Or... 260 00:10:53,527 --> 00:10:56,027 we replace Ellen's story with a better one. 261 00:10:56,029 --> 00:10:58,730 I'm listening. 262 00:10:58,732 --> 00:11:01,032 Let me tell you a little story 263 00:11:01,034 --> 00:11:03,568 about an incompetent journalist. 264 00:11:03,570 --> 00:11:06,321 She takes a rape victim and falsely accuses her 265 00:11:06,323 --> 00:11:08,206 of murder. 266 00:11:11,161 --> 00:11:13,428 It's time to put Ellen on trial. 267 00:11:13,430 --> 00:11:16,481 We are going to dismantle her podcast. 268 00:11:16,483 --> 00:11:18,883 Reese Burton and her defense team have subpoenaed my files 269 00:11:18,885 --> 00:11:20,752 in a desperate attempt to distract the jury 270 00:11:20,754 --> 00:11:21,886 from a guilty client. 271 00:11:21,888 --> 00:11:23,471 Ms. Huff? Will you be sharing 272 00:11:23,473 --> 00:11:24,723 your information with the court? 273 00:11:24,725 --> 00:11:26,474 Freedom of the press is one of our most sacred 274 00:11:26,476 --> 00:11:28,460 constitutional rights. Woodward and Bernstein, 275 00:11:28,462 --> 00:11:30,863 Daniel Ellsberg. I, too, protect my sources. 276 00:11:30,888 --> 00:11:31,930 But are... 277 00:11:31,932 --> 00:11:33,648 Aren't those journalists from some of the greatest 278 00:11:33,650 --> 00:11:35,266 news organizations in the country? 279 00:11:35,268 --> 00:11:37,185 Sadly, those dinosaurs are no longer relevant. 280 00:11:37,187 --> 00:11:39,821 Today, citizen journalists fulfill the important work 281 00:11:39,823 --> 00:11:41,689 of the Fourth Estate, and I'll go to jail 282 00:11:41,691 --> 00:11:44,275 before compromising the integrity of my podcast. 283 00:11:48,682 --> 00:11:52,167 And the cell door closes on Open and Shut with Ellen Huff. 284 00:11:52,169 --> 00:11:54,452 We don't have to worry about her releasing any more episodes 285 00:11:54,454 --> 00:11:55,787 as long as she's in jail. 286 00:11:55,789 --> 00:11:57,956 So, you're a reporter now? 287 00:11:57,958 --> 00:12:01,425 I'm a citizen journalist. I have a blog, check it out. 288 00:12:01,450 --> 00:12:03,620 Yeah, we write about anything and everything 289 00:12:03,645 --> 00:12:05,296 having to do with Reese's case. 290 00:12:05,298 --> 00:12:07,682 With Ellen in jail, we can control the narrative, 291 00:12:07,684 --> 00:12:08,800 so, Cable, 292 00:12:08,802 --> 00:12:10,552 why don't you go behind Instagram on Mike, 293 00:12:10,554 --> 00:12:11,970 see what social media has to say. 294 00:12:11,972 --> 00:12:13,938 We have a jury pool list yet? 295 00:12:13,940 --> 00:12:16,474 70 have daughters. 296 00:12:16,476 --> 00:12:18,026 82 have sons. 297 00:12:18,028 --> 00:12:20,111 People with daughters should be on our side. 298 00:12:20,113 --> 00:12:21,362 Let's build a full motivational matrix 299 00:12:21,364 --> 00:12:23,481 of every possible juror's thoughts on Mike, 300 00:12:23,483 --> 00:12:26,901 Reese, rape on campus and college basketball. 301 00:12:26,903 --> 00:12:29,454 Which jurors have abuse in their background? 302 00:12:29,456 --> 00:12:31,739 I'm still investigating, but... it's a lot. 303 00:12:31,741 --> 00:12:34,209 I mean, statistically, one in four. 304 00:12:34,211 --> 00:12:37,295 So, Danny, let's dig into the witness list. 305 00:12:37,297 --> 00:12:40,665 We need alternative theories, unfollowed leads. 306 00:12:40,667 --> 00:12:43,802 Our case hinges on finding the facts that Ellen ignored. 307 00:12:43,804 --> 00:12:45,920 On it. 308 00:12:45,922 --> 00:12:47,839 How'd you know she'd put herself in jail 309 00:12:47,841 --> 00:12:49,808 if we subpoenaed her raw interviews? 310 00:12:49,810 --> 00:12:51,893 Well, the podcast gave her notoriety, 311 00:12:51,895 --> 00:12:54,395 - but... - Oh. 312 00:12:54,397 --> 00:12:56,815 Falling on the sword gave her what she really wanted. 313 00:12:56,817 --> 00:12:59,517 Legitimacy. 314 00:12:59,519 --> 00:13:01,603 How much time you think we've bought? 315 00:13:01,605 --> 00:13:03,855 Well... as long as Ellen's integrity will hold up 316 00:13:03,857 --> 00:13:06,441 against the county jail food. 317 00:13:07,944 --> 00:13:10,161 Two days, max. 318 00:13:14,630 --> 00:13:16,568 Reese, you're going to appear in front of 319 00:13:16,593 --> 00:13:17,747 the jury today. 320 00:13:17,772 --> 00:13:21,667 What you wear in court is as important as what you say. 321 00:13:21,669 --> 00:13:24,086 You're wearing... 322 00:13:24,088 --> 00:13:25,471 I don't know what you're wearing. 323 00:13:25,473 --> 00:13:29,375 But it's at least three sizes too big. 324 00:13:29,377 --> 00:13:31,210 They're comfortable. 325 00:13:31,212 --> 00:13:33,679 That's not comfort, Mama, that's camouflage. 326 00:13:33,681 --> 00:13:36,181 If you hide in front of the jury in all that, 327 00:13:36,183 --> 00:13:38,267 they're gonna think you have something to hide. 328 00:13:39,603 --> 00:13:42,554 Silk. It softens the look, 329 00:13:42,556 --> 00:13:44,390 and I'm sewing your pockets shut. 330 00:13:44,392 --> 00:13:46,692 Why? 331 00:13:46,694 --> 00:13:49,661 Look... your hands are in your pockets... 332 00:13:49,663 --> 00:13:52,531 People automatically think you're 333 00:13:52,533 --> 00:13:54,700 being dishonest when they can't see your hands. 334 00:13:54,702 --> 00:13:55,784 How we doing? 335 00:13:55,786 --> 00:13:57,236 Is it too late to run? 336 00:13:57,238 --> 00:13:59,321 I usually advise my clients to run 337 00:13:59,323 --> 00:14:00,656 before they get arrested. 338 00:14:00,658 --> 00:14:03,208 Um... 339 00:14:03,210 --> 00:14:05,110 Dr. Bull, this is, um... 340 00:14:05,112 --> 00:14:07,079 - this is... getting a little too real... - Reese, it's okay. 341 00:14:07,081 --> 00:14:09,298 You're having a panic attack. Come sit down. 342 00:14:09,300 --> 00:14:11,633 Just repeat after me. Okay? 343 00:14:11,635 --> 00:14:16,088 One, two, three, seven, eight, four, two. 344 00:14:16,090 --> 00:14:18,474 What? 345 00:14:18,476 --> 00:14:19,758 One, two, three, 346 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,643 seven, nine, 11, six. 347 00:14:21,645 --> 00:14:23,896 One, two, 348 00:14:23,898 --> 00:14:26,315 three, nine... 349 00:14:28,652 --> 00:14:32,688 One, two, three... 350 00:14:32,690 --> 00:14:34,440 seven, nine, 351 00:14:34,442 --> 00:14:36,608 eleven... 352 00:14:37,661 --> 00:14:39,828 six. 353 00:14:41,832 --> 00:14:44,500 How did you do that? 354 00:14:44,502 --> 00:14:49,037 The mind can't freak out and count numbers out of order. 355 00:14:49,039 --> 00:14:51,256 How long you been having these panic attacks? 356 00:14:51,258 --> 00:14:54,209 Ever since... 357 00:14:54,211 --> 00:14:56,595 Mike. I, um... 358 00:14:56,597 --> 00:15:00,516 I usually just go running and it calms me down. 359 00:15:00,518 --> 00:15:02,518 Well, when this is over, 360 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,471 you're gonna go running whenever you want. 361 00:15:05,473 --> 00:15:08,173 Not because you have to. 362 00:15:09,477 --> 00:15:11,643 Which do you prefer? 363 00:15:11,645 --> 00:15:13,145 Still life with fruit, 364 00:15:13,147 --> 00:15:14,763 - or this abstract painting? - Your Honor, 365 00:15:14,765 --> 00:15:16,899 we're trying to hold a voir dire session here, 366 00:15:16,901 --> 00:15:18,784 not an auction at Sotheby's. 367 00:15:18,786 --> 00:15:20,886 I prefer neither, Mr. Col�n. 368 00:15:20,888 --> 00:15:22,154 Understood, Your Honor, 369 00:15:22,156 --> 00:15:24,656 but I do have the right to ask the question. 370 00:15:24,658 --> 00:15:26,825 Not for long. Proceed. 371 00:15:28,245 --> 00:15:29,711 Uh, definitely the fruit. 372 00:15:29,713 --> 00:15:31,497 - I like to know what I'm looking at. - Hmm. 373 00:15:31,499 --> 00:15:33,081 What are we doing with art... 374 00:15:33,083 --> 00:15:35,918 and fruit? How does this help? 375 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,386 People who like abstract paintings 376 00:15:37,388 --> 00:15:41,340 are open to new ideas. New stories. 377 00:15:41,342 --> 00:15:42,592 We just don't want to let the other side 378 00:15:42,616 --> 00:15:44,426 know what we're fishing for. 379 00:15:44,428 --> 00:15:47,162 How many of you prefer the fruit? 380 00:15:47,164 --> 00:15:49,932 Okay. Jurors number four, seven and 12... 381 00:15:49,934 --> 00:15:52,684 Move to strike, Your Honor. 382 00:15:54,522 --> 00:15:56,822 What should the penalty be for rape? 383 00:15:56,824 --> 00:15:57,990 Prison. 384 00:15:57,992 --> 00:15:59,191 Five years minimum. 385 00:15:59,193 --> 00:16:00,425 He has a daughter? 386 00:16:00,427 --> 00:16:02,244 Granddaughters. Twin teenagers. 387 00:16:02,246 --> 00:16:04,530 - He dotes on him. - He's in. 388 00:16:04,532 --> 00:16:05,998 Tell me about this ray of sunshine, 389 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,033 Tom. 390 00:16:08,035 --> 00:16:10,002 64. Divorced. 391 00:16:10,004 --> 00:16:11,803 Three times. 392 00:16:11,805 --> 00:16:14,373 We did a motivational matrix on Tom. 393 00:16:14,375 --> 00:16:16,041 Yeah, Bull. 394 00:16:16,043 --> 00:16:18,295 He uses very aggressive language when he's online. 395 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,562 Who's next if we bounce him? 396 00:16:20,564 --> 00:16:22,381 Uh, Wade Macklin. 32. 397 00:16:22,383 --> 00:16:26,969 Unmarried. Uh, professional organizer. 398 00:16:26,971 --> 00:16:30,522 Well, I like the sweater and the scruff. 399 00:16:30,524 --> 00:16:33,559 But he puts things in boxes for a living. 400 00:16:33,561 --> 00:16:35,827 We only have one strike left. 401 00:16:35,829 --> 00:16:38,230 Hmm. 402 00:16:38,232 --> 00:16:41,116 Okay. 403 00:16:41,118 --> 00:16:42,734 Does Wade have a pet? 404 00:16:42,736 --> 00:16:44,453 Labradoodle. 405 00:16:44,455 --> 00:16:46,154 He had back surgery last year. 406 00:16:46,156 --> 00:16:47,873 Cost Wade a whopping six grand. 407 00:16:47,875 --> 00:16:48,957 So cute. 408 00:16:48,959 --> 00:16:51,293 Oh, Wade. 409 00:16:51,295 --> 00:16:55,130 He may be rigid, but he has a heart. 410 00:16:55,132 --> 00:16:57,466 He loves his dog. 411 00:17:02,590 --> 00:17:04,172 The defense would like to thank this juror 412 00:17:04,174 --> 00:17:08,510 for his time and service. Move to strike, Your Honor. 413 00:17:08,512 --> 00:17:09,595 I'm 32 years old. 414 00:17:09,597 --> 00:17:11,063 I'm 32 years old. 415 00:17:11,065 --> 00:17:12,264 I lived in Paris for two years. 416 00:17:12,266 --> 00:17:14,066 I lived in Paris for two years. 417 00:17:14,068 --> 00:17:15,100 I'm an artist. 418 00:17:15,102 --> 00:17:16,735 I'm an artist. 419 00:17:16,737 --> 00:17:17,903 I work on Wall Street. 420 00:17:17,905 --> 00:17:19,538 I work on Wall Street. 421 00:17:19,540 --> 00:17:22,521 We managed to assemble a mirror jury that makes me tingly 422 00:17:22,546 --> 00:17:24,993 in its perfection. Their demographics line up 423 00:17:24,995 --> 00:17:26,778 82% with the actual jury. 424 00:17:26,780 --> 00:17:28,997 - How's the initial polling? - Uh, three on the fence. 425 00:17:28,999 --> 00:17:30,415 Nine strongly in favor of conviction. 426 00:17:30,417 --> 00:17:32,217 Doesn't sound like perfection if you're Reese. 427 00:17:32,219 --> 00:17:33,368 What... exactly as predicted, 428 00:17:33,370 --> 00:17:34,703 given the court of public opinion. 429 00:17:34,705 --> 00:17:36,705 At least these are the type open to considering 430 00:17:36,707 --> 00:17:38,006 an alternate narrative. 431 00:17:38,008 --> 00:17:40,509 Cable, what did you find on Mike 432 00:17:40,511 --> 00:17:42,377 that the jury has not heard yet? 433 00:17:42,379 --> 00:17:44,463 A lot, starting with the fact 434 00:17:44,465 --> 00:17:46,865 that Hudson University had dozens 435 00:17:46,867 --> 00:17:48,216 of unreported sexual assault claims. 436 00:17:48,218 --> 00:17:50,806 And none of them ended in criminal charges. 437 00:17:50,831 --> 00:17:53,021 And this story about sexual assault on the Hudson campus 438 00:17:53,023 --> 00:17:54,856 that was in the New York Ledger 439 00:17:54,858 --> 00:17:56,558 today... is that a coincidence? 440 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,311 Ellen doesn't have a monopoly on expos�s. 441 00:17:59,313 --> 00:18:00,862 Well, let's make sure it links to our blog, 442 00:18:00,864 --> 00:18:04,283 though it doesn't help enough with our case against Ellen. 443 00:18:04,285 --> 00:18:05,534 No, but... 444 00:18:05,536 --> 00:18:06,718 this does. 445 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,687 Another Jane Doe filed an assault charge 446 00:18:08,689 --> 00:18:10,072 against Mike on campus 447 00:18:10,074 --> 00:18:11,239 that same semester. 448 00:18:11,241 --> 00:18:12,958 How could Ellen have missed that? 449 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,376 Well, either she didn't do her homework, 450 00:18:14,378 --> 00:18:15,744 or it didn't fit her narrative. 451 00:18:15,746 --> 00:18:17,629 Let's find out who this Jane Doe is. 452 00:18:17,631 --> 00:18:19,131 I've got this one. 453 00:18:19,133 --> 00:18:21,733 What if it was Mike's girlfriend, Gina Stefano? 454 00:18:21,735 --> 00:18:23,969 In the podcast, she said they were soul mates. 455 00:18:23,971 --> 00:18:26,505 But if so, their souls bonded over their hot tempers. 456 00:18:26,507 --> 00:18:28,340 Apparently, these two fought constantly. 457 00:18:28,342 --> 00:18:30,475 She's the prosecution's next witness. 458 00:18:30,477 --> 00:18:32,511 Benny, let's prepare a cross. 459 00:18:44,158 --> 00:18:46,652 Mike's former teammates and coach. 460 00:18:46,677 --> 00:18:48,360 When did you first learn about Mike and Reese? 461 00:18:48,362 --> 00:18:50,329 We were on a break, when he had this... 462 00:18:50,331 --> 00:18:51,663 drunken hookup with Reese. 463 00:18:51,665 --> 00:18:52,831 And that didn't upset you? 464 00:18:52,833 --> 00:18:54,282 No. 465 00:18:54,284 --> 00:18:55,951 Mike told me everything. 466 00:18:55,953 --> 00:18:57,669 They're here for the prosecution. 467 00:18:57,671 --> 00:19:00,622 Amanda's good. I can see why 468 00:19:00,624 --> 00:19:02,311 you had a thing for her. 469 00:19:02,336 --> 00:19:04,126 Reese became obsessed with him, 470 00:19:04,128 --> 00:19:06,764 started stalking him. 471 00:19:06,789 --> 00:19:09,514 If I had known that she bought a gun, 472 00:19:09,516 --> 00:19:10,582 I would've told 473 00:19:10,584 --> 00:19:12,351 the police back then. 474 00:19:12,353 --> 00:19:14,603 Right on script. That's the podcast verbatim. 475 00:19:14,605 --> 00:19:16,021 Nothing further. 476 00:19:18,025 --> 00:19:22,294 Ms. Stefano, did you and Mike Tasker ever fight? 477 00:19:22,296 --> 00:19:25,564 - Sure. Every couple does. - One friend reported 478 00:19:25,566 --> 00:19:27,833 that you often threw dishes at each other. 479 00:19:27,835 --> 00:19:30,369 Okay, not often. 480 00:19:30,371 --> 00:19:32,394 Mike could get out of line. Every once in a while, 481 00:19:32,419 --> 00:19:33,822 I had to pop him one. 482 00:19:33,824 --> 00:19:35,207 We were both very passionate. 483 00:19:35,209 --> 00:19:37,609 So passionate that you filed an assault claim against him? 484 00:19:37,611 --> 00:19:39,411 Under a Jane Doe, is that correct? 485 00:19:39,413 --> 00:19:41,079 Objection, relevance. 486 00:19:41,081 --> 00:19:43,382 Your Honor, the deceased is not on trial here. 487 00:19:43,384 --> 00:19:44,756 - I'll allow it. - Look, 488 00:19:44,781 --> 00:19:46,418 I was just mad at him, okay? 489 00:19:46,420 --> 00:19:47,886 And I dropped it, like, a week later. 490 00:19:47,888 --> 00:19:49,654 We were both under a lot of pressure, 491 00:19:49,656 --> 00:19:51,640 and things got heated, and that's all. 492 00:19:51,642 --> 00:19:55,093 So you, a self-described hothead, you were angry? 493 00:19:55,095 --> 00:19:56,094 Sure. 494 00:19:56,096 --> 00:19:57,145 - And under pressure. - Yeah. 495 00:19:57,147 --> 00:19:58,980 - Did you kill Mike Tasker? - Objection. 496 00:19:58,982 --> 00:20:00,148 Sustained. 497 00:20:00,150 --> 00:20:02,651 Did you ever tell Ellen Huff about your turbulent 498 00:20:02,653 --> 00:20:04,236 relationship with Mike? 499 00:20:04,238 --> 00:20:05,987 She never asked. 500 00:20:05,989 --> 00:20:09,324 So, Ellen Huff was not interested in the truth. 501 00:20:10,994 --> 00:20:13,033 She never asked. 502 00:20:17,626 --> 00:20:19,775 Just picked up Aaron and Claudia. 503 00:20:19,777 --> 00:20:21,811 Claudia read the Ledger's rape story 504 00:20:21,813 --> 00:20:24,947 and is convinced that Ellen did a poor job reporting the facts. 505 00:20:24,949 --> 00:20:27,233 I take it you hacked her computer, 506 00:20:27,235 --> 00:20:28,484 implanted your news story. 507 00:20:28,486 --> 00:20:30,623 It wasn't very secure. 508 00:20:30,648 --> 00:20:33,956 Okay, Amanda's next witness up is Rob McKellen. 509 00:20:33,958 --> 00:20:37,293 Fraternity brother and Mike's best friend. 510 00:20:37,295 --> 00:20:39,521 What's all this about pedicures? 511 00:20:41,582 --> 00:20:43,132 Chunk. 512 00:20:43,134 --> 00:20:44,917 Back in college, he and Mike Tasker traded 513 00:20:44,919 --> 00:20:47,753 a bunch of e-mails back and forth scheduling pedicures. 514 00:20:47,755 --> 00:20:49,839 Pedis. 515 00:20:49,841 --> 00:20:51,674 Any of your teammates get pedis? 516 00:20:51,676 --> 00:20:53,559 Pedicures? 517 00:20:53,561 --> 00:20:56,095 Who we talking about, these guys? 518 00:20:56,097 --> 00:20:58,931 No. 519 00:20:58,933 --> 00:21:02,685 Not these guys. I'm thinking pedis... is code. 520 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,540 You ever get a pedicure, Mr. McKellen? 521 00:21:08,565 --> 00:21:10,192 Objection, relevance. 522 00:21:10,194 --> 00:21:11,377 I'm curious. 523 00:21:11,379 --> 00:21:12,745 What? No, I... 524 00:21:12,747 --> 00:21:13,863 No? 525 00:21:13,865 --> 00:21:15,848 Then how do you explain these e-mail exchanges 526 00:21:15,850 --> 00:21:18,868 between you and Mike Tasker discussing your pedicures? 527 00:21:18,870 --> 00:21:21,329 What are you talking about? 528 00:21:21,354 --> 00:21:23,756 They're in evidence, Mr. McKellen. 529 00:21:23,758 --> 00:21:25,341 Subpoenaed by the state. 530 00:21:25,343 --> 00:21:26,375 See? 531 00:21:26,377 --> 00:21:28,294 You need an eye for detail 532 00:21:28,296 --> 00:21:29,962 to spot the significance. 533 00:21:29,964 --> 00:21:33,382 The prosecution didn't notice that you used "pedicure" 534 00:21:33,384 --> 00:21:37,770 as code for PEDs, did they? 535 00:21:37,772 --> 00:21:39,271 Did you and Mike Tasker ever use 536 00:21:39,273 --> 00:21:42,274 performance-enhancing drugs, also known as steroids? 537 00:21:48,983 --> 00:21:50,399 Can I plead the Fifth, Your Honor? 538 00:21:50,401 --> 00:21:52,568 You may, Mr. McKellen. 539 00:21:53,788 --> 00:21:57,039 Podcast made Rob look like a Boy Scout. 540 00:21:57,041 --> 00:21:58,457 Should've known better. 541 00:21:58,459 --> 00:22:00,159 I like this attorney. 542 00:22:00,161 --> 00:22:01,327 He does his homework. 543 00:22:02,964 --> 00:22:05,247 Rob looks like my broker. 544 00:22:05,249 --> 00:22:07,133 I hate my broker. 545 00:22:08,553 --> 00:22:09,974 Are you aware that 546 00:22:09,999 --> 00:22:11,554 steroids can make people aggressive? 547 00:22:11,556 --> 00:22:12,471 I've heard that. 548 00:22:12,473 --> 00:22:13,923 But I plead the Fifth. 549 00:22:13,925 --> 00:22:15,474 You have a gun collection? 550 00:22:15,476 --> 00:22:16,509 So what? 551 00:22:16,511 --> 00:22:18,961 Including three nine-millimeter side arms? 552 00:22:18,963 --> 00:22:20,963 Have they been checked for the ballistics in this case? 553 00:22:20,965 --> 00:22:22,598 I'm not on trial here. She is. 554 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,567 Yeah, because of what you told Ellen Huff. 555 00:22:24,569 --> 00:22:26,018 Objection. 556 00:22:26,020 --> 00:22:27,019 Withdrawn. 557 00:22:27,021 --> 00:22:28,437 Mr. McKellen, 558 00:22:28,439 --> 00:22:30,773 you were the last person to see Mike alive that night, 559 00:22:30,775 --> 00:22:31,941 weren't you? 560 00:22:33,945 --> 00:22:37,113 Whatever. 561 00:22:37,115 --> 00:22:38,447 Whatever. 562 00:22:40,451 --> 00:22:42,084 Quite a job you did on Rob. 563 00:22:42,086 --> 00:22:43,285 He went up as a witness 564 00:22:43,287 --> 00:22:45,504 for the prosecution, came down a suspect. 565 00:22:45,506 --> 00:22:47,490 At least according to Ethel and Sydney. 566 00:22:47,492 --> 00:22:50,292 And yet Wade is even more convinced 567 00:22:50,294 --> 00:22:51,961 that Reese killed Mike Tasker. 568 00:22:51,963 --> 00:22:54,430 Oy, how is that even possible? 569 00:22:54,432 --> 00:22:56,298 It's called "backfire effect." 570 00:22:56,300 --> 00:22:58,717 When someone like Wade locks into a story, 571 00:22:58,719 --> 00:23:00,853 even when they're shown evidence to the contrary, 572 00:23:00,855 --> 00:23:02,605 they dig their heels in even more. 573 00:23:02,607 --> 00:23:04,690 So the only narrative Wade trusts is Ellen's. 574 00:23:04,692 --> 00:23:05,975 Fact that she's in jail 575 00:23:05,977 --> 00:23:09,028 only further confirms her integrity. 576 00:23:09,030 --> 00:23:11,614 Then it's time to break her out of jail. 577 00:23:11,616 --> 00:23:13,983 I'm gonna go play reporter. 578 00:23:13,985 --> 00:23:15,651 Danny, you know how much trouble 579 00:23:15,653 --> 00:23:16,986 I could get in for this? 580 00:23:16,988 --> 00:23:20,289 You are a patriot and my favorite SoulCycle partner. 581 00:23:20,291 --> 00:23:21,824 You're lucky I can't stand Ellen. 582 00:23:21,826 --> 00:23:24,076 She thinks she's in a hotel. 583 00:23:24,078 --> 00:23:27,496 I had no idea jail would be such a boon for the podcast. 584 00:23:27,498 --> 00:23:30,049 Another 100,000 downloads in two days. 585 00:23:30,051 --> 00:23:32,384 I've had three publishers approach me about a book. 586 00:23:32,386 --> 00:23:33,502 This is a dream. 587 00:23:33,504 --> 00:23:35,471 That's taken completely out of context. 588 00:23:35,473 --> 00:23:37,606 - How did you get that? - It's just.. hold on a second. 589 00:23:37,608 --> 00:23:38,841 I got to put this. 590 00:23:38,843 --> 00:23:39,444 This is new, 591 00:23:39,469 --> 00:23:41,560 so I got to... put this in here 592 00:23:41,562 --> 00:23:42,561 and then it goes to record, 593 00:23:42,563 --> 00:23:43,813 and I got to... 594 00:23:43,815 --> 00:23:45,347 - press that. - Okay. 595 00:23:45,349 --> 00:23:47,266 Thanks. 596 00:23:48,269 --> 00:23:50,069 Um, so why did you say that? 597 00:23:50,071 --> 00:23:51,821 I recognize you from the press conference. 598 00:23:51,823 --> 00:23:52,905 Who do you work for? 599 00:23:52,907 --> 00:23:54,573 I work for a lot of people. 600 00:23:54,575 --> 00:23:57,076 This is a popular blog that follows the trial, 601 00:23:57,078 --> 00:23:58,911 and, I got to say, 602 00:23:58,913 --> 00:24:01,197 the argument for the defense has a lot of merit. 603 00:24:01,199 --> 00:24:03,916 Mm, everything I wrote was true. 604 00:24:05,036 --> 00:24:06,752 Yeah, of course. 605 00:24:06,754 --> 00:24:07,753 But, I mean, it's pretty clear 606 00:24:07,755 --> 00:24:09,672 you left out a few key details, right? 607 00:24:09,674 --> 00:24:12,541 Like, um... Gina and Mike 608 00:24:12,543 --> 00:24:14,352 and their turbulent relationship. 609 00:24:14,377 --> 00:24:16,545 Kind of gives Gina motive. 610 00:24:16,547 --> 00:24:18,547 Well, she didn't buy a gun. 611 00:24:18,549 --> 00:24:19,882 But Rob had a gun collection 612 00:24:19,884 --> 00:24:21,116 and he was dealing steroids. 613 00:24:21,118 --> 00:24:24,053 All the top players on their team did steroids. 614 00:24:24,055 --> 00:24:25,771 Really? 615 00:24:25,773 --> 00:24:26,889 When'd you find that out? 616 00:24:26,891 --> 00:24:28,390 And why didn't you report that? 617 00:24:28,392 --> 00:24:30,893 It's not relevant. 618 00:24:31,779 --> 00:24:34,063 So you just... 619 00:24:34,065 --> 00:24:36,899 you just decide which facts are relevant, 620 00:24:36,901 --> 00:24:39,368 and then you deliberately leave out other ones? 621 00:24:39,370 --> 00:24:41,453 No, you've got the story completely wrong. 622 00:24:41,455 --> 00:24:42,488 No, I got my story. 623 00:24:42,490 --> 00:24:44,073 Good, all right, listen, 624 00:24:44,075 --> 00:24:45,207 my editors are all over me 625 00:24:45,209 --> 00:24:46,292 to file this story. 626 00:24:46,294 --> 00:24:48,177 Wait, what are you gonna print? 627 00:24:48,179 --> 00:24:51,497 That you only care about your podcast ratings, and that 628 00:24:51,499 --> 00:24:53,082 you got to have information suggesting 629 00:24:53,084 --> 00:24:54,967 Gina and Rob are suspects 630 00:24:54,969 --> 00:24:57,136 and that's why you haven't released your files 631 00:24:57,138 --> 00:24:58,170 to the court. 632 00:24:58,172 --> 00:25:01,757 But I am releasing my files to the court. 633 00:25:01,759 --> 00:25:03,809 When did that happen? 634 00:25:04,679 --> 00:25:06,512 Just now. 635 00:25:09,066 --> 00:25:11,183 Okay. 636 00:25:11,185 --> 00:25:14,603 Uh... so... 637 00:25:14,605 --> 00:25:16,438 you're trying to kill my story. 638 00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:23,779 Okay. 639 00:25:23,781 --> 00:25:27,283 Here's the deal. 640 00:25:27,285 --> 00:25:28,334 No more press conferences 641 00:25:28,336 --> 00:25:31,170 and no more podcasts until 642 00:25:31,172 --> 00:25:32,655 after the trial is over. 643 00:25:32,657 --> 00:25:34,757 Deal. 644 00:25:34,759 --> 00:25:38,427 And I get access to the files. 645 00:25:38,429 --> 00:25:41,013 Ugh. 646 00:25:41,966 --> 00:25:44,183 I'm a big fan, by the way. 647 00:25:44,185 --> 00:25:46,302 All right, thanks. 648 00:25:48,606 --> 00:25:50,022 Oh! 649 00:25:50,024 --> 00:25:52,608 That was terrible. 650 00:25:53,477 --> 00:25:55,144 Darts are pure chance, my friend. 651 00:25:55,146 --> 00:25:57,112 - Uh-huh. - Here we go. 652 00:25:57,114 --> 00:25:59,315 Oh, Amanda, what are you doing here? 653 00:26:03,391 --> 00:26:05,871 Oh, that's better. Look at that. 654 00:26:05,873 --> 00:26:07,156 Magic. 655 00:26:10,995 --> 00:26:14,296 How far in advance did you know Amanda was prosecuting the case? 656 00:26:15,082 --> 00:26:16,332 How long you been missing Amanda? 657 00:26:17,368 --> 00:26:18,534 What? 658 00:26:18,536 --> 00:26:20,669 Come on, man. I'm over her. 659 00:26:20,671 --> 00:26:24,807 You haven't seriously dated anyone since you guys broke up. 660 00:26:26,677 --> 00:26:29,228 It's because I haven't found anyone I liked. 661 00:26:29,230 --> 00:26:30,396 I'm picky. 662 00:26:30,398 --> 00:26:32,815 Ha. Like other dart players I know. 663 00:26:35,269 --> 00:26:37,186 Ah. 664 00:26:37,188 --> 00:26:38,854 Check you out. 665 00:26:38,856 --> 00:26:41,323 Stage managing my life with Amanda, 666 00:26:41,325 --> 00:26:42,825 pouring your life into Reese's. 667 00:26:42,827 --> 00:26:45,694 You ever gonna get serious with a woman again? 668 00:26:45,696 --> 00:26:47,696 Whatever. 669 00:26:47,698 --> 00:26:50,532 And now we have Ellen Huff live just moments... 670 00:26:50,534 --> 00:26:52,785 - Oh, there's Ellen. - Right. 671 00:26:52,787 --> 00:26:54,753 - No, really. - I have decided to share research 672 00:26:54,755 --> 00:26:56,255 from my investigation with the courts, 673 00:26:56,257 --> 00:26:57,373 so long as they protect my sources. 674 00:26:57,375 --> 00:26:59,792 And I promise you the truth is in there. 675 00:26:59,794 --> 00:27:02,094 I'll keep you posted. Excuse me. 676 00:27:02,963 --> 00:27:04,963 I told her no press conferences. 677 00:27:04,965 --> 00:27:06,882 No, technically it's not. 678 00:27:06,884 --> 00:27:09,551 They were waiting for her at her apartment. 679 00:27:09,553 --> 00:27:12,354 Are you her lawyer now? 680 00:27:12,356 --> 00:27:15,391 All right, let's finish these drinks and go say hi. 681 00:27:24,618 --> 00:27:26,235 - Hey, what's going on here? - Hold up there. 682 00:27:26,237 --> 00:27:27,569 It's all right, Officer, I know him. 683 00:27:27,571 --> 00:27:29,822 - Let 'em through. - Thanks, Detective. 684 00:27:31,968 --> 00:27:33,972 What happened? 685 00:27:34,011 --> 00:27:36,745 Looks like gravity. 686 00:27:36,747 --> 00:27:37,863 Forced entry, 687 00:27:37,865 --> 00:27:39,148 signs of a struggle. 688 00:27:39,150 --> 00:27:40,339 Ellen was pushed. 689 00:27:40,364 --> 00:27:43,635 We need your client at the precinct for questioning. 690 00:28:03,117 --> 00:28:04,933 Hey. 691 00:28:04,935 --> 00:28:06,752 - You're fast. - How'd you find me? 692 00:28:06,754 --> 00:28:08,120 Figured you needed to go for a run 693 00:28:08,122 --> 00:28:10,822 after you heard about Ellen's death. 694 00:28:10,824 --> 00:28:13,542 Are the police looking for me? 695 00:28:13,544 --> 00:28:17,095 You have about an hour. 696 00:28:17,097 --> 00:28:19,464 I'm sorry, I... 697 00:28:19,466 --> 00:28:21,600 I had to get out of my apartment. 698 00:28:21,602 --> 00:28:23,719 I, uh... I couldn't breathe. 699 00:28:23,721 --> 00:28:26,054 I... I... 700 00:28:26,056 --> 00:28:27,139 saw my photo on the news. 701 00:28:27,141 --> 00:28:29,308 Hey, hey, look at me. Look at me for a second. 702 00:28:29,310 --> 00:28:30,776 - Come here, come here. - No. 703 00:28:30,778 --> 00:28:33,195 Come here, it's okay. Let's count, all right? 704 00:28:33,197 --> 00:28:34,313 - No. - Remember? 705 00:28:34,315 --> 00:28:35,647 Say it. 706 00:28:35,649 --> 00:28:38,317 Seven, eight, nine, 11, one. 707 00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:40,652 Do it, look at me, look at me. 708 00:28:40,654 --> 00:28:42,321 Seven, eight, nine, 11, one. 709 00:28:42,323 --> 00:28:43,538 Seven. 710 00:28:43,540 --> 00:28:44,990 Eight. Nine. 711 00:28:48,162 --> 00:28:50,295 You're okay? 712 00:28:50,297 --> 00:28:52,914 I told you. 713 00:28:54,969 --> 00:28:57,386 You're okay. 714 00:29:00,641 --> 00:29:04,259 You've been running since your senior year of college. 715 00:29:04,261 --> 00:29:06,645 And I have some news for you. 716 00:29:06,647 --> 00:29:09,314 What happened to you isn't gonna change. 717 00:29:09,316 --> 00:29:11,183 But you can't let it define you. 718 00:29:11,185 --> 00:29:12,684 You don't know what it's like! 719 00:29:12,686 --> 00:29:16,405 No, I don't know exactly what it's like for you. 720 00:29:16,407 --> 00:29:18,240 How could I? 721 00:29:18,242 --> 00:29:20,942 But I do know what it's like to be trapped. 722 00:29:20,944 --> 00:29:24,613 And helpless and afraid 723 00:29:24,615 --> 00:29:28,784 and too young to be able to do anything about it. 724 00:29:31,622 --> 00:29:33,505 Is that why you do what you do? 725 00:29:33,507 --> 00:29:36,458 Why you're out here? 726 00:29:36,460 --> 00:29:40,345 In the middle of the night? 727 00:29:40,347 --> 00:29:44,016 Is that why you decided to help me? 728 00:29:47,855 --> 00:29:50,639 Well... 729 00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:54,309 Understanding... 730 00:29:54,311 --> 00:29:57,529 why people do the things they do... 731 00:29:59,533 --> 00:30:02,534 ...is really just understanding yourself. 732 00:30:02,536 --> 00:30:03,902 And once you do that, 733 00:30:03,904 --> 00:30:05,787 you don't have to run anymore. 734 00:30:05,789 --> 00:30:07,622 Not from panic, 735 00:30:07,624 --> 00:30:09,741 not from whatever happened. 736 00:30:10,744 --> 00:30:11,960 We're gonna win. 737 00:30:11,962 --> 00:30:15,080 Okay. 738 00:30:17,634 --> 00:30:19,201 You see, this is 739 00:30:19,203 --> 00:30:20,919 time-stamped video footage showing Reese 740 00:30:20,921 --> 00:30:22,337 entering her own apartment building 741 00:30:22,339 --> 00:30:24,056 at the time of Ellen's death. 742 00:30:25,325 --> 00:30:26,925 What's your e-mail? I'll send it to you. 743 00:30:26,927 --> 00:30:29,561 - She could've left another way. - Yeah. Maybe she has 744 00:30:29,563 --> 00:30:31,096 a jetpack. 745 00:30:31,098 --> 00:30:33,398 Detective cleared my client. 746 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,933 Don't go far. 747 00:30:34,935 --> 00:30:36,518 We have court in the morning. 748 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,238 Amanda, clearly, the real killer saw Ellen's press conference 749 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,657 and got to her before she could reveal his identity. 750 00:30:42,659 --> 00:30:46,078 You are free to bring that theory up at trial. 751 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,165 I know what Benny would do if he was still in the D.A.'s office. 752 00:30:50,167 --> 00:30:53,785 He would drop the case and go after the real killer. 753 00:30:55,339 --> 00:30:58,623 We still have a subpoena for Ellen's files. 754 00:30:58,625 --> 00:31:00,292 They're now in evidence for Ellen's murder. 755 00:31:00,294 --> 00:31:02,878 In which my client was called in for questioning. 756 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,713 You're not trying to keep the files from me, are you? 757 00:31:04,715 --> 00:31:07,632 Come on, Amanda. I know you wouldn't willfully engage 758 00:31:07,634 --> 00:31:09,134 in prosecutorial misconduct. 759 00:31:09,136 --> 00:31:10,969 Benny, have at it. 760 00:31:10,971 --> 00:31:12,938 You can take this by evidence on your way out. 761 00:31:12,940 --> 00:31:14,473 But you can't keep assuming 762 00:31:14,475 --> 00:31:16,224 all your clients are innocent. 763 00:31:16,226 --> 00:31:19,478 All? 764 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:24,032 I had a 93% conviction rate when I worked for the D.A.'s office. 765 00:31:24,034 --> 00:31:26,401 One person, one innocent person... 766 00:31:26,403 --> 00:31:27,986 Forget it. 767 00:31:27,988 --> 00:31:30,038 There's a reason why I quit. 768 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,456 You didn't quit. You were fired. 769 00:31:32,376 --> 00:31:35,043 I quit when I realized I worked for a place 770 00:31:35,045 --> 00:31:37,712 that cared more about getting convictions than having them. 771 00:31:39,583 --> 00:31:41,633 I'll see you in court. 772 00:31:42,753 --> 00:31:43,752 Cable. 773 00:31:43,754 --> 00:31:46,671 Have you convinced the public 774 00:31:46,673 --> 00:31:48,840 that Reese was not involved in Ellen's death yet? 775 00:31:48,842 --> 00:31:50,759 Making progress. 776 00:31:50,761 --> 00:31:53,011 A couple of news outlets picked up my story. 777 00:31:53,013 --> 00:31:54,896 What story? 778 00:31:54,898 --> 00:31:56,064 "Sources report Reese 779 00:31:56,066 --> 00:31:57,883 has been cleared and has an ironclad alibi. 780 00:31:57,885 --> 00:31:59,351 Therefore, the real killer 781 00:31:59,353 --> 00:32:01,686 may have killed Ellen before she could reveal 782 00:32:01,688 --> 00:32:03,572 his or her true identity. 783 00:32:03,574 --> 00:32:06,775 The police are investigating other suspects at this time." 784 00:32:06,777 --> 00:32:09,444 Throw suspicion on someone other than Reese. 785 00:32:09,446 --> 00:32:11,146 Genius. 786 00:32:11,148 --> 00:32:12,781 And it might even be true. 787 00:32:12,783 --> 00:32:14,950 Good use of media to control the story. 788 00:32:14,952 --> 00:32:16,284 And here's the kicker: 789 00:32:16,286 --> 00:32:18,370 two naughty, naughty jurors 790 00:32:18,372 --> 00:32:19,504 clicked through to our blog 791 00:32:19,506 --> 00:32:21,256 and read the article. 792 00:32:21,258 --> 00:32:22,374 Hmm. It's nice work. 793 00:32:22,376 --> 00:32:23,375 That'll filter down 794 00:32:23,377 --> 00:32:25,177 to the rest of the jury by dinner. 795 00:32:25,179 --> 00:32:26,878 You know, if hacking doesn't pan out for you, 796 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,214 I think you have a career as a shoddy journalist. 797 00:32:29,216 --> 00:32:30,966 - Thank you. - In-in the best way. 798 00:32:30,968 --> 00:32:33,301 That means a lot. 799 00:32:33,303 --> 00:32:36,471 Danny, you find anything in Ellen's file? 800 00:32:36,473 --> 00:32:37,496 No, not yet. 801 00:32:37,521 --> 00:32:39,524 This woman recorded hundreds of hours of interviews. 802 00:32:39,526 --> 00:32:41,126 If we don't get anything from Ellen, 803 00:32:41,128 --> 00:32:43,195 - you think Wade will cave? - No. 804 00:32:43,197 --> 00:32:44,563 We'll get a hung jury. 805 00:32:44,565 --> 00:32:46,982 Well, that may not be a bad thing. 806 00:32:46,984 --> 00:32:49,367 The D.A.'s not gonna want to retry this case. 807 00:32:49,369 --> 00:32:51,369 Yeah, I understand, Benny, 808 00:32:51,371 --> 00:32:52,871 but anything short of not guilty, 809 00:32:52,873 --> 00:32:55,040 and Reese has to live the rest of her life knowing the cops 810 00:32:55,042 --> 00:32:58,043 could come knocking on the door and arrest her for murder. 811 00:32:58,045 --> 00:33:00,462 But it's not like we're gonna put Reese on the stand. 812 00:33:00,464 --> 00:33:01,630 Are we? 813 00:33:01,632 --> 00:33:02,831 Without Ellen, 814 00:33:02,833 --> 00:33:04,583 Reese is the best witness we have 815 00:33:04,585 --> 00:33:06,668 and the only one who might influence Wade. 816 00:33:06,670 --> 00:33:08,386 Not to mention... 817 00:33:08,388 --> 00:33:10,422 it's a story Reese needs to tell. 818 00:33:10,424 --> 00:33:12,557 It's one thing for Reese to have a panic attack 819 00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:14,309 while sitting at a table 820 00:33:14,311 --> 00:33:15,810 where she can count to herself. 821 00:33:15,812 --> 00:33:16,895 On the witness stand... 822 00:33:16,897 --> 00:33:18,930 Amanda will destroy her. 823 00:33:18,932 --> 00:33:21,766 Make her look guilty when she freezes. 824 00:33:21,768 --> 00:33:23,318 That's what I'm counting on. 825 00:33:24,988 --> 00:33:27,606 If I say the wrong thing up there, 826 00:33:27,608 --> 00:33:29,991 they'll put me away for the rest of my life. 827 00:33:29,993 --> 00:33:31,409 That's why we're here. 828 00:33:31,411 --> 00:33:33,245 To practice. 829 00:33:35,499 --> 00:33:38,283 Now, I'm gonna play the role of the prosecution. 830 00:33:38,285 --> 00:33:42,454 Ms. Burton, two weeks before Mike Tasker's murder... 831 00:33:42,456 --> 00:33:45,123 You bought a nine-millimeter handgun, didn't you? 832 00:33:45,125 --> 00:33:46,508 Yes or no? 833 00:33:46,510 --> 00:33:48,677 Amanda's gonna try and limit your answers to yes or no, 834 00:33:48,679 --> 00:33:50,795 but you have the right to explain yourself. 835 00:33:50,797 --> 00:33:54,382 Yes, because I was frightened for my life. 836 00:33:54,384 --> 00:33:57,135 She's very good at restating what you said, 837 00:33:57,137 --> 00:33:58,762 but in her words and not yours. 838 00:33:58,787 --> 00:33:59,804 - Correct her. - Frightened? 839 00:33:59,806 --> 00:34:01,890 And like everyone, you had a choice. 840 00:34:01,892 --> 00:34:03,108 Fight or flight. 841 00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:05,026 You chose fight. Threatened him. 842 00:34:05,028 --> 00:34:07,195 No, I threatened him to stay away from me. 843 00:34:07,197 --> 00:34:09,531 You threatened to kill him with your gun. 844 00:34:09,533 --> 00:34:10,615 Objection! 845 00:34:10,617 --> 00:34:12,284 Badgering the witness. 846 00:34:12,286 --> 00:34:14,753 If you're not done with an answer, you say... 847 00:34:14,755 --> 00:34:16,705 - I wasn't finished. - Amanda knows 848 00:34:16,707 --> 00:34:17,822 you have panic attacks. 849 00:34:17,824 --> 00:34:19,741 She's gonna try and elicit one on the stand. 850 00:34:19,743 --> 00:34:22,494 And when she does, you... 851 00:34:22,496 --> 00:34:24,013 will be ready. 852 00:34:24,038 --> 00:34:25,224 Mike sexually assaulted you. 853 00:34:25,248 --> 00:34:25,841 Yes. 854 00:34:25,866 --> 00:34:27,582 You reported it to the university. 855 00:34:27,584 --> 00:34:28,178 Yes. 856 00:34:28,203 --> 00:34:29,718 - And they dragged their heels. - Yes. 857 00:34:29,720 --> 00:34:30,835 But that was something that... 858 00:34:30,837 --> 00:34:32,504 And you were furious about that, weren't you? 859 00:34:32,506 --> 00:34:34,506 - Of course I was. - You kept that rage inside. 860 00:34:34,508 --> 00:34:36,007 - I didn't say "rage." - The entire campus 861 00:34:36,009 --> 00:34:37,676 turned up for Mike Tasker's memorial service. 862 00:34:37,678 --> 00:34:39,594 A lot of people went, yes, 863 00:34:39,596 --> 00:34:41,110 who weren't raped by him. 864 00:34:41,175 --> 00:34:42,582 But you were glad Mike Tasker was dead. 865 00:34:42,606 --> 00:34:44,322 You can admit that. 866 00:34:44,441 --> 00:34:47,109 Can't you? 867 00:34:49,690 --> 00:34:51,356 Ms. Burton. 868 00:34:51,358 --> 00:34:53,908 Why does this topic make you so uncomfortable? 869 00:34:55,028 --> 00:34:56,578 Ms. Burton, do you need a break? 870 00:34:56,580 --> 00:34:58,446 Before a panic attack, 871 00:34:58,448 --> 00:35:00,198 people have their own 872 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,533 warning signs. 873 00:35:01,535 --> 00:35:04,703 The room starts to buzz, yeah? 874 00:35:04,705 --> 00:35:09,841 That can be your cue to melt down or to start coping. 875 00:35:09,843 --> 00:35:11,406 What if I pass out? 876 00:35:11,431 --> 00:35:13,678 - You'll wake up. - What if I throw up? 877 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,546 We'll get you a bucket. 878 00:35:14,548 --> 00:35:16,214 You have an answer for everything. 879 00:35:16,216 --> 00:35:18,466 So do you. 880 00:35:18,468 --> 00:35:21,302 For every question Amanda's going to ask, 881 00:35:21,304 --> 00:35:23,521 you have the truth. 882 00:35:23,523 --> 00:35:26,224 And no panic attack or prosecutor 883 00:35:26,226 --> 00:35:27,308 can take that from you. 884 00:35:27,310 --> 00:35:28,760 The court will recess. 885 00:35:28,762 --> 00:35:31,062 No, I don't need a break, Your Honor. 886 00:35:31,064 --> 00:35:32,731 No further questions, Your Honor. 887 00:35:32,733 --> 00:35:33,815 But she asked a question 888 00:35:33,817 --> 00:35:35,567 implying that I'm hiding something. 889 00:35:35,569 --> 00:35:37,419 I have the right to answer. 890 00:35:37,421 --> 00:35:39,404 Go ahead, you may answer. 891 00:35:55,138 --> 00:35:56,755 You're right. 892 00:35:56,757 --> 00:35:58,640 I couldn't stand Mike, 893 00:35:58,642 --> 00:36:00,675 but I was the last person who wanted him dead. 894 00:36:00,677 --> 00:36:02,994 I wanted him alive 895 00:36:02,996 --> 00:36:05,597 because I wanted him to pay for what he did. 896 00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:07,565 I wanted him to go to prison. 897 00:36:07,567 --> 00:36:10,485 I wanted him to feel what I felt 898 00:36:10,487 --> 00:36:14,105 and I wanted to ask him, "How powerful do you feel now?" 899 00:36:16,026 --> 00:36:18,410 And I'll never get that chance. 900 00:36:18,412 --> 00:36:21,613 He is the one at peace, not me. 901 00:36:23,950 --> 00:36:27,001 Yes, I get these panic attacks 902 00:36:27,003 --> 00:36:29,954 because I was raped and bullied, 903 00:36:29,956 --> 00:36:33,041 which is exactly how you're making me feel. 904 00:36:35,462 --> 00:36:37,846 I couldn't stand up for myself then, 905 00:36:37,848 --> 00:36:41,182 but I am stronger now. 906 00:36:41,184 --> 00:36:44,352 So, ask your questions, Ms. Prosecutor. 907 00:36:44,354 --> 00:36:47,305 I have nowhere else to be. 908 00:36:47,307 --> 00:36:50,275 I did not kill Mike Tasker. 909 00:37:00,854 --> 00:37:02,954 Yeah, she gets panic attacks. 910 00:37:02,956 --> 00:37:06,491 I get it, but the prosecution's built a bulletproof case. 911 00:37:06,493 --> 00:37:08,359 No way I can acquit, 912 00:37:08,361 --> 00:37:10,228 especially since Ellen's dead. 913 00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:11,996 That podcaster lady had it all. 914 00:37:11,998 --> 00:37:15,583 All that's left is my closing argument. 915 00:37:15,585 --> 00:37:17,669 And we've got two hours. 916 00:37:17,671 --> 00:37:19,921 Ellen's got to have something in her audio files. 917 00:37:19,923 --> 00:37:21,089 Danny. 918 00:37:23,477 --> 00:37:25,393 This looks promising. 919 00:37:27,147 --> 00:37:29,430 Ellen's raw, unedited audio. 920 00:37:29,432 --> 00:37:31,182 You're gonna want to hear that. 921 00:37:36,857 --> 00:37:39,330 Looks like we have reasonable doubt. 922 00:37:45,024 --> 00:37:47,159 We all know what happened to Mike Tasker. 923 00:37:47,161 --> 00:37:48,377 Right? 924 00:37:49,797 --> 00:37:51,497 Reese was obsessed. 925 00:37:51,499 --> 00:37:52,715 Stalked him around campus. 926 00:37:52,740 --> 00:37:54,755 When he turned down her advances, she bought a gun 927 00:37:54,780 --> 00:37:56,302 and threatened him. 928 00:37:56,304 --> 00:37:58,387 Social media. 929 00:37:58,389 --> 00:38:01,340 Twitter, blogs, Facebook. 930 00:38:01,342 --> 00:38:02,725 It can be 931 00:38:02,727 --> 00:38:07,913 a terrific tool for staying in touch, for connecting. 932 00:38:07,915 --> 00:38:10,349 For cat videos. 933 00:38:10,351 --> 00:38:11,817 But, you see, there's a difference 934 00:38:11,819 --> 00:38:14,236 between entertainment and the truth. 935 00:38:14,238 --> 00:38:17,740 And this podcast is a work of pure fiction. 936 00:38:17,742 --> 00:38:19,692 How do I know? 937 00:38:19,694 --> 00:38:22,361 Once police matched Reese's blonde hair... 938 00:38:22,363 --> 00:38:24,080 Shoot, brown. I need to start over. 939 00:38:24,082 --> 00:38:25,614 I thought you were going to bring up Mike 940 00:38:25,616 --> 00:38:26,699 and the team's steroid use. 941 00:38:26,701 --> 00:38:29,668 No, it gets too complicated here. 942 00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:30,753 I'm not gonna get into it. 943 00:38:30,755 --> 00:38:31,871 Very good. Take two. 944 00:38:31,873 --> 00:38:32,831 That's an example 945 00:38:32,856 --> 00:38:35,007 of how Ellen chose the facts... 946 00:38:35,009 --> 00:38:36,542 to make a compelling case. 947 00:38:36,544 --> 00:38:41,046 Ellen thought it was "too complicated" 948 00:38:41,048 --> 00:38:43,232 to introduce Mike's steroid use, 949 00:38:43,234 --> 00:38:46,051 Gina's temper and assault charge, 950 00:38:46,053 --> 00:38:47,970 even Reese's panic attacks. 951 00:38:47,972 --> 00:38:52,057 I mean, Ellen's limited version of the story may have made 952 00:38:52,059 --> 00:38:55,394 for compelling entertainment, but that doesn't make it true. 953 00:38:56,898 --> 00:39:01,617 And it cost Reese her job, her reputation, 954 00:39:01,619 --> 00:39:03,786 and it publicized to the whole world 955 00:39:03,788 --> 00:39:06,122 that she was raped. 956 00:39:06,124 --> 00:39:08,157 And you know what? It landed her right here... 957 00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:10,409 on trial for murder. 958 00:39:14,916 --> 00:39:18,884 Please don't make the same mistake Ellen did. 959 00:39:20,388 --> 00:39:22,588 She's not a murderer. 960 00:39:22,590 --> 00:39:25,424 She's a survivor. 961 00:39:25,426 --> 00:39:27,593 That's the true story. 962 00:39:36,454 --> 00:39:40,105 On the charge of murder in the first degree, 963 00:39:40,107 --> 00:39:42,074 how do you find? 964 00:39:45,096 --> 00:39:49,498 We, the jury, find the defendant, Reese Burton... 965 00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:52,117 not guilty. 966 00:39:53,504 --> 00:39:55,337 Court adjourned. 967 00:40:00,261 --> 00:40:01,293 Will you look at that? 968 00:40:01,295 --> 00:40:03,045 I... I see the coach and his team 969 00:40:03,047 --> 00:40:04,680 aren't here for the verdict. 970 00:40:04,682 --> 00:40:08,300 Maybe you should look into that doping scandal. 971 00:40:20,715 --> 00:40:22,398 Enemy alert. 972 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,649 Say the word, 973 00:40:23,651 --> 00:40:25,451 I hit the burn button. We lose it all. 974 00:40:25,453 --> 00:40:27,203 It's all right, Cable. She called ahead. 975 00:40:27,205 --> 00:40:29,622 We picked up Rob for questioning. 976 00:40:29,624 --> 00:40:31,156 He crumbled pretty quickly. 977 00:40:31,158 --> 00:40:33,325 Turns out Mike was about to blow the whistle 978 00:40:33,327 --> 00:40:35,327 on the team using steroids, 979 00:40:35,329 --> 00:40:37,913 so the coach had motive to kill Mike and Ellen. 980 00:40:37,915 --> 00:40:40,082 You were right. 981 00:40:40,084 --> 00:40:42,084 Mm. 982 00:40:42,086 --> 00:40:44,637 You came all the way here to tell us this? 983 00:40:45,506 --> 00:40:48,190 Actually, I came to talk to you. 984 00:40:48,192 --> 00:40:51,577 Mm, I haven't had a sip of this yet. 985 00:40:51,579 --> 00:40:53,846 I'm gonna go play guitar. 986 00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:58,267 I was impressed. 987 00:40:58,269 --> 00:41:02,136 That passion... that's what I first remember about you 988 00:41:02,161 --> 00:41:03,439 when you started at the D.A.'s office. 989 00:41:04,442 --> 00:41:05,858 Look, Amanda, you don't have to. 990 00:41:05,860 --> 00:41:08,661 No, I do. 991 00:41:08,663 --> 00:41:11,747 That's why I was so upset after your press conference. 992 00:41:11,749 --> 00:41:14,166 Well... you know how I felt. 993 00:41:17,255 --> 00:41:19,088 I just... 994 00:41:19,090 --> 00:41:22,041 felt like you weren't taking me into account. 995 00:41:22,043 --> 00:41:23,342 I was still working there. 996 00:41:23,344 --> 00:41:25,010 Yeah. 997 00:41:25,012 --> 00:41:27,079 I could've handled that differently. 998 00:41:27,081 --> 00:41:29,265 Yeah. 999 00:41:31,352 --> 00:41:34,303 But I do get why you did it. 1000 00:41:34,305 --> 00:41:35,971 Thanks. 1001 00:41:35,973 --> 00:41:37,306 That means a lot. 1002 00:41:37,308 --> 00:41:41,060 Just to be clear, don't ever come up against me 1003 00:41:41,062 --> 00:41:42,278 with a guilty client. 1004 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,564 Well... don't ever prosecute an innocent one. 1005 00:41:51,289 --> 00:41:54,239 If she said she'd take you back... 1006 00:41:54,241 --> 00:41:55,291 would you do it? 1007 00:41:55,293 --> 00:41:56,909 In a heartbeat. 1008 00:42:03,884 --> 00:42:04,883 Thank you. 1009 00:42:04,885 --> 00:42:06,669 - Mm-hmm. - Hey. 1010 00:42:06,671 --> 00:42:07,670 Hi. 1011 00:42:07,672 --> 00:42:08,754 Um, if your social calendar 1012 00:42:08,756 --> 00:42:09,805 has cleared up... 1013 00:42:09,807 --> 00:42:12,374 What? 1014 00:42:12,376 --> 00:42:13,892 Tin Lizard? 1015 00:42:13,894 --> 00:42:16,428 No pressure, but a bunch of us are going. 1016 00:42:16,430 --> 00:42:17,479 Yeah. 1017 00:42:18,816 --> 00:42:20,149 Thank you. 1018 00:42:22,236 --> 00:42:24,653 Curious how you managed to turn this case 1019 00:42:24,655 --> 00:42:26,322 into an opportunity 1020 00:42:26,324 --> 00:42:29,742 for Benny to reconcile with Amanda. 1021 00:42:31,112 --> 00:42:32,611 A happy coincidence. 1022 00:42:33,722 --> 00:42:35,397 You don't believe in coincidences. 1023 00:42:35,399 --> 00:42:36,448 Well... 1024 00:42:36,450 --> 00:42:39,835 a happy result of masterful manipulation 1025 00:42:39,837 --> 00:42:41,877 seems a bit over the top, don't you think? 1026 00:42:43,457 --> 00:42:45,674 How long's the feeling last? 1027 00:42:45,676 --> 00:42:47,960 Huh? 1028 00:42:47,962 --> 00:42:49,845 Winning a case like this. 1029 00:42:49,847 --> 00:42:51,764 Helping Reese. 1030 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,433 Until the next one. 1031 00:43:07,327 --> 00:43:13,999 - Synced and corrected by VitoSilans - -- www.Addic7ed.com -- 72638

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