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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,689 --> 00:00:11,551 [Reporter] The BBC understands that a former Russian spy 2 00:00:11,586 --> 00:00:14,517 is in a critical condition in hospital in wiltshire. 3 00:00:14,551 --> 00:00:18,551 They were severely critically ill, developing multi-organ failure. 4 00:00:18,586 --> 00:00:22,620 It's such a crazy kinda story, it's almost unbelievable. 5 00:00:22,655 --> 00:00:26,034 [Man] I knew it was novichok, a military-grade nerve agent. 6 00:00:26,068 --> 00:00:29,793 Even tiny amounts can kill tens of thousands of people. 7 00:00:30,517 --> 00:00:32,000 [Sirens wailing] 8 00:00:32,034 --> 00:00:35,689 This is being treated as a major incident involving attempted murder 9 00:00:36,275 --> 00:00:37,275 via a nerve agent. 10 00:00:38,241 --> 00:00:40,931 She was staring at nothing 11 00:00:40,965 --> 00:00:42,310 and foaming at the mouth. 12 00:00:42,344 --> 00:00:43,586 The first time in a century 13 00:00:43,620 --> 00:00:46,448 a chemical weapon had been used in Western Europe. 14 00:00:46,482 --> 00:00:51,724 "It's only a matter of time before I slip into a coma and die." 15 00:00:51,758 --> 00:00:54,896 [Theresa may] It is now clear Mr. Skripal and his daughter 16 00:00:54,931 --> 00:00:57,586 were poisoned with a military-grade nerve agent 17 00:00:57,620 --> 00:01:00,068 of the type developed by Russia. 18 00:01:00,103 --> 00:01:04,103 There was absolutely no doubt that this is an operation 19 00:01:04,137 --> 00:01:06,137 controlled by Vladimir putin 20 00:01:06,172 --> 00:01:08,034 through Russian military intelligence. 21 00:01:09,137 --> 00:01:11,551 The intent is to kill people. 22 00:01:11,586 --> 00:01:14,931 I've been caught up in an international assassination attempt. 23 00:01:14,965 --> 00:01:20,172 The substance could potentially be anywhere in the city. 24 00:01:20,206 --> 00:01:23,413 It was as though a bomb had gone off on the streets of Salisbury. 25 00:01:25,413 --> 00:01:30,000 Ordinary people caught in absolutely extraordinary circumstances. 26 00:01:31,655 --> 00:01:34,172 He's like, "I've literally poisoned my girlfriend." 27 00:01:34,862 --> 00:01:36,000 You know? 28 00:01:36,034 --> 00:01:38,068 "Unknowingly, I've killed me girlfriend." 29 00:01:53,517 --> 00:01:57,137 [Man] People would come from far and wide to Salisbury to visit. 30 00:01:57,172 --> 00:01:59,965 It's always had a very nice kind of feel and atmosphere. 31 00:02:01,068 --> 00:02:02,275 Such a small city. 32 00:02:03,827 --> 00:02:05,862 I was just a normal guy, 33 00:02:05,896 --> 00:02:08,206 a normal police officer doing his job 34 00:02:08,241 --> 00:02:11,551 before march the 4th, 2018 happened. 35 00:02:12,827 --> 00:02:14,413 And it changed my life forever. 36 00:02:16,137 --> 00:02:17,620 My name is Nick Bailey. 37 00:02:17,655 --> 00:02:19,448 I was a detective sergeant 38 00:02:19,482 --> 00:02:21,965 in the criminal investigation department in Salisbury. 39 00:02:25,793 --> 00:02:29,068 I was at my desk in bourne hill police station. 40 00:02:29,103 --> 00:02:31,620 I just remember hearing a call on the radio 41 00:02:31,655 --> 00:02:33,827 about two people that were found 42 00:02:33,862 --> 00:02:36,275 in the maltings, in the city. 43 00:02:36,310 --> 00:02:39,551 It's a stone's throw, effectively, from the cathedral. 44 00:02:39,586 --> 00:02:43,413 They were unconscious and slumped on a park bench, 45 00:02:43,448 --> 00:02:44,517 heavily salivating. 46 00:02:51,068 --> 00:02:52,562 [Woman] The air ambulance had been spotted 47 00:02:52,586 --> 00:02:54,551 over Salisbury city center. 48 00:02:54,586 --> 00:02:56,586 And as I was heading home that way, 49 00:02:56,620 --> 00:02:59,068 I said I would go and investigate it. 50 00:03:04,068 --> 00:03:05,862 My name is Rebecca Hudson 51 00:03:05,896 --> 00:03:08,896 and I was a trainee reporter at the Salisbury journal. 52 00:03:10,931 --> 00:03:13,275 There was a police cordon. 53 00:03:13,310 --> 00:03:18,655 They said that it was a couple who had suffered some sort of drug-related incident 54 00:03:18,689 --> 00:03:20,827 and been taken to hospital as a result. 55 00:03:23,344 --> 00:03:26,379 We didn't know anything about what condition they were in. 56 00:03:26,413 --> 00:03:29,620 But to have that police cordon seemed bizarre at the time, 57 00:03:29,655 --> 00:03:32,482 and it sparked a lot of curiosity, I think. 58 00:03:32,517 --> 00:03:33,793 On the bench over there 59 00:03:33,827 --> 00:03:36,586 there was a man being sick on the floor, leant over, 60 00:03:36,620 --> 00:03:39,000 and a woman lying on the floor. 61 00:03:39,034 --> 00:03:40,251 She was sort of leant in on him, 62 00:03:40,275 --> 00:03:42,793 it looked like she'd passed out maybe. 63 00:03:42,827 --> 00:03:45,000 He was doing some strange hand movements, 64 00:03:45,034 --> 00:03:46,034 looking up to the sky. 65 00:03:48,034 --> 00:03:51,000 Nobody knew what was going on, we didn't know what had happened, 66 00:03:51,034 --> 00:03:52,674 we didn't know if a crime had taken place. 67 00:03:54,241 --> 00:03:57,620 Maybe they'd been contaminated or poisoned with something. 68 00:03:57,655 --> 00:03:59,241 It could have been a drugs overdose. 69 00:04:00,275 --> 00:04:03,103 Didn't really know why they were that ill. 70 00:04:05,448 --> 00:04:09,034 One of the police officers said, "you might want to stay 71 00:04:09,068 --> 00:04:11,137 because something interesting is going to happen." 72 00:04:12,620 --> 00:04:14,862 And when the fire crews arrived, 73 00:04:14,896 --> 00:04:16,620 a couple of them immediately 74 00:04:16,655 --> 00:04:19,241 started to put their chemical Hazmat suits on. 75 00:04:20,517 --> 00:04:23,103 It looked like they were swabbing the bench. 76 00:04:23,137 --> 00:04:25,896 And then we realized they were cleaning something up, 77 00:04:25,931 --> 00:04:28,965 someone at the scene had said it was vomit, 78 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,586 and began a fairly lengthy process of bagging 79 00:04:32,620 --> 00:04:35,758 and double-bagging and triple-bagging this vomit up, 80 00:04:35,793 --> 00:04:37,931 and then put it inside a metal container. 81 00:04:42,965 --> 00:04:47,448 I just didn't know why they were taking so many precautions. 82 00:04:48,551 --> 00:04:50,241 There was no explanation at the time. 83 00:04:56,275 --> 00:04:59,655 My uniformed colleagues had found a driver's license, 84 00:04:59,689 --> 00:05:02,793 and on the driver's license it said the name Sergei skripal 85 00:05:02,827 --> 00:05:04,965 and gave a local Salisbury address. 86 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,758 One of my team googled Sergei skripal's name. 87 00:05:12,793 --> 00:05:16,793 I remember vividly him saying, "sarge, you're gonna need to come and see this." 88 00:05:16,827 --> 00:05:19,758 And I walked over and looked over his shoulder at the computer, 89 00:05:19,793 --> 00:05:22,620 and it was a picture of Sergei skripal, 90 00:05:22,655 --> 00:05:24,620 and it was a newspaper headline. 91 00:05:25,965 --> 00:05:30,517 And it basically said that he was a former Russian spy 92 00:05:30,551 --> 00:05:33,827 who'd been released as part of some kind of international spy swap. 93 00:05:36,275 --> 00:05:38,758 That information changed everything. 94 00:05:38,793 --> 00:05:42,241 He was deemed to be a traitor to Russia. 95 00:05:47,827 --> 00:05:50,655 The biggest spy swap since the cold war. 96 00:05:52,620 --> 00:05:56,103 [Reporter 1] Two planes, one from america and one from Russia, 97 00:05:56,137 --> 00:05:57,551 met on the tarmac. 98 00:05:57,586 --> 00:05:59,562 [Reporter 2] The four men who were released from Russian prisons 99 00:05:59,586 --> 00:06:02,689 had all been convicted of handling highly classified information. 100 00:06:03,448 --> 00:06:04,724 [Speaking Russian] 101 00:06:06,310 --> 00:06:07,344 [Speaking Russian] 102 00:06:13,172 --> 00:06:14,482 [Dramatic music] 103 00:06:16,827 --> 00:06:20,310 [Nick] Sergei skripal was not just a Russian spy, 104 00:06:20,344 --> 00:06:24,172 but a former double agent working for MI6. 105 00:06:25,517 --> 00:06:29,517 He chose Salisbury, or MI6 chose Salisbury for him. 106 00:06:29,551 --> 00:06:34,448 It is amazing that he'd gone from being behind bars in Russia 107 00:06:34,482 --> 00:06:37,827 to suddenly being here, in little old Salisbury. 108 00:06:41,068 --> 00:06:43,482 [Man] That is the first time that I become aware 109 00:06:43,517 --> 00:06:47,586 that we've got a Russian spy who was actually living in Salisbury. 110 00:06:47,620 --> 00:06:51,103 I'm Paul mills, I'm the deputy chief constable of wiltshire police. 111 00:06:51,137 --> 00:06:54,689 The Salisbury poisonings, without doubt, 112 00:06:54,724 --> 00:07:00,448 was the most complex, challenging policing incident I've ever been involved in. 113 00:07:00,482 --> 00:07:03,000 [Man over radio] Approaching christie Miller road. 114 00:07:03,034 --> 00:07:05,068 [Mills] After the incident on the Sunday, 115 00:07:05,103 --> 00:07:09,965 we've got three officers that we decide will go into Mr. Skripal's home address 116 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,103 to look to see whether there's any information or clues 117 00:07:13,137 --> 00:07:16,344 which would indicate actually how they'd become ill. 118 00:07:16,379 --> 00:07:18,539 [Man over radio] They've obtained key from the neighbor. 119 00:07:20,448 --> 00:07:23,827 [Rebecca] As a girl in her early 20s in Salisbury at the time, 120 00:07:24,655 --> 00:07:26,793 I never in my wildest dreams 121 00:07:26,827 --> 00:07:28,448 thought I would be writing headlines 122 00:07:28,482 --> 00:07:31,241 that were referencing a spy living in Salisbury. 123 00:07:34,241 --> 00:07:38,586 To find out that there was a spy living in christie Miller road, 124 00:07:38,620 --> 00:07:40,965 which was a road I'd walked past 125 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,724 on my way to and from school even, 126 00:07:42,758 --> 00:07:46,034 was bizarre, I couldn't make any sense of it. 127 00:07:47,137 --> 00:07:50,310 We had to borrow suits from the fire station, 128 00:07:50,344 --> 00:07:55,655 latex gloves, goggles and masks, like, kind of breathing masks. 129 00:07:55,689 --> 00:07:58,931 We had to protect the scene from us. 130 00:08:01,379 --> 00:08:04,655 We got kitted up on the driveway of the house. 131 00:08:04,689 --> 00:08:07,724 So I unlocked the front door 132 00:08:07,758 --> 00:08:11,551 and undid the handle and walked into Sergei skripal's house. 133 00:08:21,344 --> 00:08:22,448 I did think, 134 00:08:22,482 --> 00:08:25,103 "why is a former Russian spy living in Salisbury? 135 00:08:25,137 --> 00:08:29,068 And how did we not know that he was there?" 136 00:08:29,103 --> 00:08:32,344 Surely we should have been made aware. 137 00:08:33,655 --> 00:08:35,793 By all accounts, no one knew. 138 00:08:44,482 --> 00:08:46,379 There was nothing obvious in the house 139 00:08:46,413 --> 00:08:48,793 that would give us any more of an idea 140 00:08:48,827 --> 00:08:52,551 as to why they were in critical condition in hospital. 141 00:08:52,586 --> 00:08:56,172 I went home after a 15-16 hour shift. 142 00:08:56,206 --> 00:08:59,551 I think I left the police station at about half six in the morning. 143 00:08:59,586 --> 00:09:02,103 And I remember feeling a bit kind of sweaty, 144 00:09:02,137 --> 00:09:04,206 my forehead was sweaty, 145 00:09:04,241 --> 00:09:06,620 which I put down to just kind of... 146 00:09:06,655 --> 00:09:08,862 [Chuckles bitterly] Stress and exhaustion. 147 00:09:08,896 --> 00:09:10,172 And I remember, as well, 148 00:09:10,206 --> 00:09:13,689 my pupils were quite small. 149 00:09:13,724 --> 00:09:15,244 But I didn't think anything more of it. 150 00:09:18,034 --> 00:09:19,172 [Radio] A man and a woman 151 00:09:19,206 --> 00:09:20,596 are in hospital after an incident in the maltings 152 00:09:20,620 --> 00:09:22,206 in Salisbury yesterday afternoon. 153 00:09:22,241 --> 00:09:25,793 Firefighters were also called to assist with a hazardous material. 154 00:09:34,310 --> 00:09:36,068 [Man] Salisbury's fairly sleepy. 155 00:09:37,551 --> 00:09:41,137 Who would have thought someone had a spy living next door. 156 00:09:44,827 --> 00:09:46,310 My name is James haslam, 157 00:09:46,344 --> 00:09:48,103 I'm a consultant in anesthesia 158 00:09:48,137 --> 00:09:50,000 and intensive care medicine here in Salisbury. 159 00:09:51,344 --> 00:09:55,137 I remember coming into work on the Monday morning, 160 00:09:55,172 --> 00:09:57,862 was about to take over the icu for the week. 161 00:09:57,896 --> 00:10:01,310 I'd heard that there'd been two patients admitted the previous afternoon. 162 00:10:01,344 --> 00:10:04,862 There was an older gentleman and a younger lady. 163 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,400 They were getting sicker and sicker. 164 00:10:08,517 --> 00:10:11,068 [Woman] In terms of the symptoms, 165 00:10:11,103 --> 00:10:15,551 in the first 24-48 hours, 166 00:10:16,275 --> 00:10:17,517 it was a bit of a mystery 167 00:10:17,551 --> 00:10:19,931 why they were with us in hospital. 168 00:10:19,965 --> 00:10:22,413 Whether that was an overdose, 169 00:10:22,448 --> 00:10:24,793 whether it was an accidental poisoning, 170 00:10:24,827 --> 00:10:27,206 what had caused this? 171 00:10:27,241 --> 00:10:28,758 They were critically ill, 172 00:10:28,793 --> 00:10:32,827 they were requiring full life support. 173 00:10:32,862 --> 00:10:38,172 [Dr. Haslam] In the handover, the working diagnosis was opioid poisoning or toxicity. 174 00:10:38,206 --> 00:10:41,206 And I just, in my gut, I felt like that wasn't quite right. 175 00:10:41,241 --> 00:10:43,586 They were severely, critically ill, 176 00:10:43,620 --> 00:10:45,000 developing multi-organ failure. 177 00:10:49,482 --> 00:10:52,551 I thought, at that stage, it was likely to have been an assassination attempt. 178 00:10:52,586 --> 00:10:56,379 And then your mind starts spiraling as to what that means. 179 00:11:01,241 --> 00:11:04,000 I spent most of the night on the Internet, researching. 180 00:11:05,620 --> 00:11:07,896 [Man] I got a phone call from a doctor saying, 181 00:11:07,931 --> 00:11:11,827 "there has been an incident in Salisbury, it's really bizarre. 182 00:11:11,862 --> 00:11:15,448 We think it might be some sort of chemical incident. 183 00:11:15,482 --> 00:11:18,068 We're really unsure what it is, so stand by. 184 00:11:18,103 --> 00:11:19,448 We might need some advice." 185 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,758 My name is Hamish De bretton-Gordon, 186 00:11:22,793 --> 00:11:26,482 I commanded the cbrn regiment, 187 00:11:26,517 --> 00:11:29,206 chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear, 188 00:11:29,931 --> 00:11:31,413 for the UK and for NATO. 189 00:11:33,586 --> 00:11:35,551 When I saw the first pictures 190 00:11:35,586 --> 00:11:38,000 of Sergei skripal on the bench, 191 00:11:38,551 --> 00:11:40,482 almost frozen, 192 00:11:40,517 --> 00:11:43,068 it looked like this is probably a nerve agent. 193 00:11:45,206 --> 00:11:48,310 And that's when the alarm bells started ringing. 194 00:11:48,344 --> 00:11:49,655 [Heart monitors beeping] 195 00:11:57,068 --> 00:11:59,628 [Dr. Haslam] There was a real sense of threat from this substance, 196 00:11:59,655 --> 00:12:01,000 which we didn't know much about. 197 00:12:02,586 --> 00:12:05,103 What we had to do was kind of formulate a recipe 198 00:12:05,137 --> 00:12:08,586 of drugs that would keep them alive 199 00:12:08,620 --> 00:12:10,344 and hopefully give them time to get better. 200 00:12:11,655 --> 00:12:13,586 I was concerned about these patients, 201 00:12:13,620 --> 00:12:15,140 I was worried that they were gonna die. 202 00:12:15,689 --> 00:12:17,034 I was stunned. 203 00:12:17,068 --> 00:12:21,310 I mean, I'd dealt with biological weapons attacks by al-qaeda, 204 00:12:21,344 --> 00:12:23,896 in both Iraq and Afghanistan, 205 00:12:23,931 --> 00:12:27,275 I had personally experienced a chemical attack in Syria. 206 00:12:28,758 --> 00:12:31,068 One of the shocking things was, you know, 207 00:12:31,103 --> 00:12:32,482 this is right on our doorstep, 208 00:12:32,517 --> 00:12:35,379 my family were in Salisbury at the time. 209 00:12:36,172 --> 00:12:37,689 I rang my wife, 210 00:12:37,724 --> 00:12:39,413 "guys, you need to be careful. 211 00:12:39,448 --> 00:12:41,413 You're gonna hear pretty soon, 212 00:12:41,448 --> 00:12:44,758 this is gonna go stratospheric in the media, 213 00:12:44,793 --> 00:12:47,137 there's a chemical attack in Salisbury, 214 00:12:47,172 --> 00:12:48,631 there's something pretty horrendous out there, 215 00:12:48,655 --> 00:12:49,827 we don't know what it is. 216 00:12:49,862 --> 00:12:52,000 I'd suggest you stay out of the place." 217 00:12:55,655 --> 00:12:57,217 [Rebecca] The motto for thesalisbury journal 218 00:12:57,241 --> 00:12:59,310 was "the heartbeat of your community." 219 00:12:59,344 --> 00:13:04,103 You're just covering the small, often fun stories that people love to read 220 00:13:04,137 --> 00:13:07,586 but that don't hold a huge deal of news value. 221 00:13:07,620 --> 00:13:09,862 A cow that gave birth to triplets, 222 00:13:09,896 --> 00:13:12,931 a cat that was stuck under the bonnet of a car. 223 00:13:12,965 --> 00:13:16,379 This is the picture that our photographer took at the scene, 224 00:13:16,413 --> 00:13:20,275 which then was used all throughout the world. 225 00:13:21,068 --> 00:13:23,965 Given the level of secrecy, 226 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,206 I was very proud that we got this picture 227 00:13:26,241 --> 00:13:28,206 because there was nobody else there 228 00:13:28,241 --> 00:13:29,896 who was documenting what had happened. 229 00:13:30,724 --> 00:13:32,655 That picture was the beginning 230 00:13:32,689 --> 00:13:37,655 of Salisbury being known for an international nerve agent attack 231 00:13:37,689 --> 00:13:39,379 on a Russian double agent. 232 00:13:40,344 --> 00:13:43,586 The biggest story that I would ever cover, 233 00:13:43,620 --> 00:13:47,000 and I think that Salisbury would ever see. 234 00:13:48,862 --> 00:13:51,172 [Nick] That Monday morning I wasn't due to work. 235 00:13:52,206 --> 00:13:53,251 Three o'clock in the afternoon 236 00:13:53,275 --> 00:13:55,448 I was woken by a phone call from work 237 00:13:55,482 --> 00:13:59,275 asking me some questions about the events of the night before. 238 00:14:01,620 --> 00:14:04,724 I was a little bit anxious about how I was feeling. 239 00:14:04,758 --> 00:14:06,379 I just didn't feel good at all. 240 00:14:06,413 --> 00:14:08,931 The start of a migraine... I don't know. 241 00:14:08,965 --> 00:14:12,689 And at that point, I just put it down to, I must be... just exhaustion. 242 00:14:13,758 --> 00:14:17,586 My wife and two girls were at home 243 00:14:17,620 --> 00:14:20,068 and I said, "why I've been at work for so long? 244 00:14:20,103 --> 00:14:22,827 Because we're dealing with something that is potentially quite big, 245 00:14:22,862 --> 00:14:25,068 but we don't know a lot yet, 246 00:14:25,103 --> 00:14:28,413 but it's very strange, it's very quite sinister." 247 00:14:31,931 --> 00:14:34,793 The BBC understands that a former Russian spy 248 00:14:34,827 --> 00:14:36,413 is in a critical condition 249 00:14:36,448 --> 00:14:37,689 in hospital in wiltshire 250 00:14:37,724 --> 00:14:39,275 along with a woman in her thirties. 251 00:14:39,310 --> 00:14:41,103 A major incident was declared 252 00:14:41,137 --> 00:14:42,931 and decontamination teams were called 253 00:14:42,965 --> 00:14:45,172 into the local hospital and part of the city. 254 00:14:47,034 --> 00:14:49,379 [Woman] "Is this some kind of toxic poisoning? 255 00:14:49,413 --> 00:14:52,896 How many people could potentially be at risk of harm?" 256 00:14:52,931 --> 00:14:56,000 To me was the thing that was keeping me awake at night. 257 00:14:56,034 --> 00:14:57,586 My name is Tracy daszkiewicz. 258 00:14:57,620 --> 00:14:59,896 I was director of public health for the wiltshire council 259 00:14:59,931 --> 00:15:02,758 during the time of the Salisbury poisonings. 260 00:15:02,793 --> 00:15:04,551 "Was it an assassination attempt?" 261 00:15:04,586 --> 00:15:07,034 Those sorts of questions start to emerge. 262 00:15:07,068 --> 00:15:08,758 That's a really horrible feeling, 263 00:15:08,793 --> 00:15:12,655 that something like that can happen in peace time 264 00:15:12,689 --> 00:15:14,068 in a place like Salisbury. 265 00:15:14,965 --> 00:15:17,758 The information that was disclosed, 266 00:15:17,793 --> 00:15:21,448 I wasn't able to share that with anybody. 267 00:15:21,482 --> 00:15:24,310 A nerve agent is a chemical weapon 268 00:15:25,379 --> 00:15:27,000 developed by the Nazis. 269 00:15:28,241 --> 00:15:31,620 One molecule of this stuff is enough to kill you. 270 00:15:31,655 --> 00:15:37,000 The challenge then is to work out where it could be. 271 00:15:37,034 --> 00:15:39,310 [Tracy] The imagination then breeds fear and anxiety. 272 00:15:40,896 --> 00:15:42,275 In those early days, 273 00:15:42,310 --> 00:15:45,758 it could've easily been full scale of fatalities and casualties. 274 00:15:47,379 --> 00:15:49,379 [Rebecca] At thejournal, we had heard a rumor 275 00:15:49,413 --> 00:15:52,724 that there was runoff from the nerve agent 276 00:15:52,758 --> 00:15:54,482 in the river avon. 277 00:15:54,517 --> 00:15:56,827 And that that was flowing through the city 278 00:15:58,068 --> 00:16:01,586 and that that had come about when the fire service 279 00:16:01,620 --> 00:16:05,137 hosed down the bench the skripals were found on. 280 00:16:05,172 --> 00:16:09,241 Ducks and swans in the city were being poisoned or were dying. 281 00:16:11,379 --> 00:16:14,655 We couldn't rule any of these rumors out. 282 00:16:14,689 --> 00:16:18,689 This substance could potentially be anywhere in the city 283 00:16:18,724 --> 00:16:21,000 and that anyone could have come into contact with it. 284 00:16:24,137 --> 00:16:26,827 [Tracy] For the community living in Salisbury, 285 00:16:26,862 --> 00:16:30,034 it was frightening, unusual, very scary. 286 00:16:30,068 --> 00:16:32,413 It's quite daunting really, and it's just quite worrying 287 00:16:32,448 --> 00:16:33,793 to know what's gonna happen next. 288 00:16:33,827 --> 00:16:36,827 Because the fact there's a Russian spy living right next door 289 00:16:36,862 --> 00:16:38,413 and we never knew about it. 290 00:16:38,448 --> 00:16:40,010 And then for something like this to happen, 291 00:16:40,034 --> 00:16:41,517 it's quite concerning. 292 00:16:41,551 --> 00:16:43,034 People are nervous about it 293 00:16:43,068 --> 00:16:45,793 because it's so close to home. 294 00:16:45,827 --> 00:16:48,241 It's the not knowing and what's going on, really. 295 00:16:48,275 --> 00:16:50,838 I mean, there's a lot of security around and a lot of police around. 296 00:16:50,862 --> 00:16:51,862 So, yeah. 297 00:16:54,758 --> 00:16:59,068 Within the space of less than 24 hours, it was clear 298 00:16:59,103 --> 00:17:02,241 it was clear that there was a major incident evolving here. 299 00:17:03,724 --> 00:17:06,000 The world's press descended upon Salisbury. 300 00:17:07,137 --> 00:17:09,103 [Woman] It was becoming crazy. 301 00:17:09,137 --> 00:17:13,000 The city streets themselves are part of the news. 302 00:17:13,827 --> 00:17:15,137 My name is Olga ivshina, 303 00:17:15,172 --> 00:17:18,034 I'm a senior reporter for BBC Russian service. 304 00:17:19,448 --> 00:17:21,275 I was on the phone talking Russian. 305 00:17:21,310 --> 00:17:25,517 Just saw that there is an old lady staring at me 306 00:17:25,551 --> 00:17:27,724 and sort of waiting for me to finish the call. 307 00:17:27,758 --> 00:17:29,379 I put down the phone and she said, 308 00:17:29,413 --> 00:17:33,862 "oh, it's you Russians! What have you done to our city? 309 00:17:33,896 --> 00:17:36,620 What have you done? Why do you do this to us?" 310 00:17:36,655 --> 00:17:40,793 It was a moment which told you the story, in a way. 311 00:17:40,827 --> 00:17:44,034 How frightened and angry people are. 312 00:17:44,068 --> 00:17:45,448 There you are in Salisbury, 313 00:17:45,482 --> 00:17:46,793 but give us your perspective 314 00:17:46,827 --> 00:17:50,103 as a journalist for the BBC Russian service, about how this... 315 00:17:50,137 --> 00:17:53,448 [Olga] I was the only Russian speaker which worked on that news. 316 00:17:53,482 --> 00:17:57,241 And they said, "listen, your job is very important. 317 00:17:57,275 --> 00:17:59,241 To learn more about Sergei skripal, 318 00:17:59,275 --> 00:18:02,448 about his family, about his past in Russia." 319 00:18:02,482 --> 00:18:05,310 We know that there was someone with Sergei, 320 00:18:05,344 --> 00:18:07,931 some other woman who was sitting next to him 321 00:18:07,965 --> 00:18:09,793 and who's also in the hospital at the moment 322 00:18:09,827 --> 00:18:11,620 in a very bad condition. 323 00:18:11,655 --> 00:18:13,724 But that's it, we didn't know anything else. 324 00:18:13,758 --> 00:18:18,206 During these days, BBC spoke to a number of experts, 325 00:18:18,241 --> 00:18:20,689 and all say that we should be cautious... 326 00:18:20,724 --> 00:18:23,931 And certainly we shouldn't issue any accusations at the moment. 327 00:18:23,965 --> 00:18:28,344 Some day, at like six A.M. London time, 328 00:18:28,379 --> 00:18:29,758 I got a message saying, 329 00:18:29,793 --> 00:18:34,551 "yes, I am a niece of Sergei skripal, call me." 330 00:18:39,931 --> 00:18:41,034 [Speaking Russian] 331 00:18:53,310 --> 00:18:55,448 You could hear her voice trembling. 332 00:18:55,482 --> 00:18:56,758 And then she said, 333 00:18:56,793 --> 00:18:58,689 "what's going on, is she alive?" 334 00:18:58,724 --> 00:19:03,172 And then I had to tell her that she's in the hospital in critical condition. 335 00:19:38,689 --> 00:19:40,010 [Dr. Haslam] By this stage, on the Tuesday, 336 00:19:40,034 --> 00:19:41,413 the patients were close to death. 337 00:19:42,862 --> 00:19:46,103 We had armed guards at the end of our icu. 338 00:19:46,137 --> 00:19:49,103 Is anybody gonna come back and try and finish our patients off? 339 00:19:49,137 --> 00:19:51,931 And could we get caught in any crossfire? 340 00:19:51,965 --> 00:19:54,275 That was certainly something that we worried about. 341 00:19:54,310 --> 00:19:56,034 [Machines beeping] 342 00:20:02,758 --> 00:20:04,413 [Olga] When viktoria skripal said, 343 00:20:04,448 --> 00:20:05,689 "what have they done to him?" 344 00:20:05,724 --> 00:20:08,448 I asked her, "who do you mean?" 345 00:20:08,482 --> 00:20:12,793 And she said, "security services, Russian security services." 346 00:20:12,827 --> 00:20:15,000 That was her initial reaction. 347 00:20:30,241 --> 00:20:32,631 [Nick] Tuesday night, that's when things started to change for me. 348 00:20:32,655 --> 00:20:35,137 They were like nightmares or hallucinations. 349 00:20:35,172 --> 00:20:39,206 Like, pure hate and flames right in front of my eyes. 350 00:20:39,241 --> 00:20:41,734 As if you were able to get close enough to the surface of the sun, 351 00:20:41,758 --> 00:20:44,758 it was like a Tsunami of pure hate and fire. 352 00:20:44,793 --> 00:20:47,965 That was terrifying, but when I woke up I was boiling hot 353 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,068 and I was literally pouring with sweat, 354 00:20:51,103 --> 00:20:53,931 just pouring with sweat. 355 00:20:53,965 --> 00:20:56,689 And I got out of bed and I staggered downstairs 356 00:20:56,724 --> 00:20:58,724 'cause I needed to get a drink of water, 357 00:20:58,758 --> 00:21:01,517 and I felt really, really unsteady on my feet. 358 00:21:01,551 --> 00:21:04,517 And my vision was impaired, 359 00:21:04,551 --> 00:21:08,000 it was like still frames that were jittering from one to the next, 360 00:21:08,034 --> 00:21:09,379 that's how my eyesight was, 361 00:21:09,413 --> 00:21:10,620 and it was horrible. 362 00:21:10,655 --> 00:21:12,975 I looked at the mirror again and my pupils were still tiny, 363 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,068 and I was scared, physically, by how I was feeling. 364 00:21:24,241 --> 00:21:25,310 It was terrifying, 365 00:21:25,344 --> 00:21:27,689 so I went to hospital, to a&E. 366 00:21:29,137 --> 00:21:30,689 That's the first time I met James. 367 00:21:33,689 --> 00:21:35,241 [Dr. Haslam] I went down to examine him 368 00:21:35,275 --> 00:21:36,724 and, by this stage, 369 00:21:36,758 --> 00:21:39,275 I know what nerve agent poisoning looks like, 370 00:21:39,310 --> 00:21:42,275 although nothing had been officially confirmed. 371 00:21:42,310 --> 00:21:45,620 But there were lots of conversations behind closed doors. 372 00:21:47,275 --> 00:21:50,448 [Hamish] I've seen how these things kill people. 373 00:21:50,482 --> 00:21:53,379 So, when your body starts shutting down, 374 00:21:53,413 --> 00:21:55,379 the initial look is statuesque, 375 00:21:55,413 --> 00:21:56,551 where people are frozen 376 00:21:56,586 --> 00:21:59,689 because their muscles can't move. 377 00:21:59,724 --> 00:22:01,965 There will be choking because you can't breathe, 378 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,275 you get pin-pointed pupils 379 00:22:04,310 --> 00:22:06,931 because your eyes are shutting down. 380 00:22:08,413 --> 00:22:09,941 [Dr. Haslam] I had to break the news to him 381 00:22:09,965 --> 00:22:12,551 that there was a class of nerve agents called "novichok," 382 00:22:12,586 --> 00:22:17,448 something that is extremely terrifying. 383 00:22:17,482 --> 00:22:18,827 It was designed to kill 384 00:22:19,448 --> 00:22:21,137 on a mass scale. 385 00:22:21,172 --> 00:22:23,965 And then there is the horror, the fear factor, 386 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,068 of being poisoned. 387 00:22:26,206 --> 00:22:27,896 [Nick] James came in and said, 388 00:22:27,931 --> 00:22:32,206 "you have a nerve agent called novichok in your system." 389 00:22:32,241 --> 00:22:35,103 We were in completely unknown territory now. 390 00:22:35,137 --> 00:22:38,931 I'd been caught up in an international assassination attempt. 391 00:22:38,965 --> 00:22:41,344 Even the staff of the hospital were scared 392 00:22:42,103 --> 00:22:43,551 about how this was gonna work 393 00:22:44,241 --> 00:22:45,310 and what was going on. 394 00:22:45,344 --> 00:22:48,310 And I... yeah, it's pure terror. 395 00:22:49,034 --> 00:22:51,000 I cried a lot 396 00:22:52,379 --> 00:22:53,965 'cause I was so scared. 397 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,862 I thought it's only a matter of time 398 00:22:56,896 --> 00:23:00,620 before I slip into a coma and die. 399 00:23:00,655 --> 00:23:02,896 [Machines beeping] 400 00:23:02,931 --> 00:23:04,965 [Dr. Haslam] I felt under a lot of pressure. 401 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,172 I was really worried about my three patients. 402 00:23:07,206 --> 00:23:09,724 The ramifications were starting to play out in my mind. 403 00:23:09,758 --> 00:23:13,827 This is going to be some sort of international scandal 404 00:23:14,724 --> 00:23:15,689 if one of them died. 405 00:23:15,724 --> 00:23:18,379 That could be the start of war. 406 00:23:20,689 --> 00:23:25,724 [Woman] It was outrageous that two people living in Salisbury 407 00:23:25,758 --> 00:23:27,551 had been attacked in this way. 408 00:23:27,586 --> 00:23:31,241 It was as though a bomb had gone off on the streets of Salisbury. 409 00:23:31,275 --> 00:23:33,793 This was almost an act of war. 410 00:23:34,896 --> 00:23:37,137 As a cabinet minister and as a home secretary, 411 00:23:37,172 --> 00:23:41,068 you feel the affrontery, really, of the violence 412 00:23:41,103 --> 00:23:43,482 of this act on British soil. 413 00:23:43,517 --> 00:23:47,758 And so we attributed it as a terrorist attack. 414 00:23:47,793 --> 00:23:51,758 Until we could actually pinpoint it as attributed 415 00:23:51,793 --> 00:23:55,758 to an individual leading a nation-state. 416 00:23:55,793 --> 00:23:57,000 [Camera shutters clicking] 417 00:23:57,034 --> 00:23:59,234 [Man shouts] Are you ready to retaliate, prime minister? 418 00:23:59,862 --> 00:24:02,137 How will you hit back? 419 00:24:02,172 --> 00:24:07,000 [Amber rudd] But Theresa may was determined that we shouldn't rush it 420 00:24:07,034 --> 00:24:09,275 in order to have a proper response. 421 00:24:09,310 --> 00:24:13,862 [Man] It's hard to imagine a situation where the stakes could be higher. 422 00:24:13,896 --> 00:24:15,724 "International terrorist operations" 423 00:24:15,758 --> 00:24:18,172 fundamentally goes to the defense of the realm 424 00:24:18,206 --> 00:24:19,689 and the security of the country. 425 00:24:20,896 --> 00:24:22,068 My name is Mark rowley. 426 00:24:22,103 --> 00:24:24,517 When the Salisbury poisonings happened, 427 00:24:24,551 --> 00:24:27,206 I was the head of UK counter terrorism policing, 428 00:24:27,241 --> 00:24:29,758 leading that national responsibility from Scotland yard. 429 00:24:31,827 --> 00:24:34,448 [Rowley] It is being treated as a major incident 430 00:24:34,482 --> 00:24:36,413 involving attempted murder 431 00:24:36,448 --> 00:24:38,896 by administration of a nerve agent 432 00:24:41,103 --> 00:24:44,896 finding the weapon, finding the suspects 433 00:24:44,931 --> 00:24:47,068 was a massively high priority. 434 00:24:47,103 --> 00:24:50,068 The challenge was we didn't know how it'd been brought in, 435 00:24:50,103 --> 00:24:51,758 and who'd brought it in. 436 00:24:51,793 --> 00:24:53,000 So many unknowns. 437 00:24:56,103 --> 00:24:57,631 [Paul mills] What's really, really critical 438 00:24:57,655 --> 00:24:59,103 is to catch those who have done it. 439 00:24:59,137 --> 00:25:01,448 It was tense, but we had a job to do. 440 00:25:03,068 --> 00:25:04,689 The counter-terrorism police 441 00:25:04,724 --> 00:25:08,068 had to firstly establish where the skripals had actually been poisoned 442 00:25:08,103 --> 00:25:09,862 and ultimately, by who. 443 00:25:09,896 --> 00:25:12,000 Clearly at the center of that was cctv. 444 00:25:13,724 --> 00:25:17,344 Piecing all of that together and then tracing that back to Russia 445 00:25:17,379 --> 00:25:23,103 was one of the most complex investigations I would say in recent policing history. 446 00:25:25,379 --> 00:25:28,275 [Mark rowley] We've got the police forensic experts on the ground, 447 00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:30,103 armed specialist protection officers 448 00:25:30,137 --> 00:25:32,827 protecting the skripals at the hospital. 449 00:25:32,862 --> 00:25:34,896 The lead intelligence agencies, mi5 and MI6, 450 00:25:34,931 --> 00:25:36,586 it's like bringing an orchestra together 451 00:25:37,275 --> 00:25:40,000 from scratch at high speed. 452 00:25:41,482 --> 00:25:44,275 One of the key things about novichok 453 00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:46,172 that the Russians designed into it, 454 00:25:46,206 --> 00:25:47,310 that it was undetectable. 455 00:25:48,620 --> 00:25:52,206 And after they were first infected with nerve agent, 456 00:25:52,241 --> 00:25:54,068 they were spreading contamination. 457 00:25:54,103 --> 00:25:55,551 It's a bit like your DNA, 458 00:25:55,586 --> 00:25:57,758 you leave it whatever you touch. 459 00:25:57,793 --> 00:26:00,517 So one had to find the source 460 00:26:00,551 --> 00:26:03,413 and then track where the skripals had been. 461 00:26:03,448 --> 00:26:06,448 Trying to trace all the novichok was a absolute nightmare. 462 00:26:07,827 --> 00:26:13,241 You're looking for the smallest smears of a liquid 463 00:26:14,275 --> 00:26:15,517 across a whole city. 464 00:26:16,206 --> 00:26:17,689 But the forensic examination 465 00:26:17,724 --> 00:26:20,344 is far harder, far slower 466 00:26:20,379 --> 00:26:22,068 than the normal forensic examination. 467 00:26:22,103 --> 00:26:23,517 It's a long, slow process 468 00:26:23,551 --> 00:26:25,655 requiring immense care. 469 00:26:25,689 --> 00:26:27,827 Being a reporter, you know, 470 00:26:27,862 --> 00:26:29,344 you have to be close. 471 00:26:29,379 --> 00:26:32,103 You can't see it, but it might be there 472 00:26:32,137 --> 00:26:34,000 and it might be really, really dangerous. 473 00:26:36,172 --> 00:26:38,655 [Paul mills] We had to sample every blade of grass, 474 00:26:39,551 --> 00:26:41,620 take it to a mass spectrometer 475 00:26:41,655 --> 00:26:44,620 and work out whether there was novichok there. 476 00:26:44,655 --> 00:26:46,275 The threat was massive. 477 00:26:49,655 --> 00:26:51,310 [Mark] Due to the nature of novichok, 478 00:26:51,344 --> 00:26:56,413 this stuff lives for a very, very long time, it doesn't degrade. 479 00:26:56,448 --> 00:26:58,413 All of those people that actually responded, 480 00:26:58,448 --> 00:27:00,344 whether or not that was police officers, 481 00:27:00,379 --> 00:27:03,724 ambulance staff, the hospital, other members of the public, 482 00:27:03,758 --> 00:27:06,206 that had actually come into contact with the skripals, 483 00:27:06,241 --> 00:27:07,965 the potential for chronic illness 484 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,241 meant we had to destroy 18 police vehicles, nine ambulances... 485 00:27:12,275 --> 00:27:14,344 We start to lock down all of the scenes. 486 00:27:14,379 --> 00:27:16,275 It was huge. 487 00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:18,206 [Hamish] We buried 37 vehicles. 488 00:27:18,241 --> 00:27:20,206 So little of it can be fatal 489 00:27:20,241 --> 00:27:22,275 that you have to track every molecule, 490 00:27:22,310 --> 00:27:24,758 but we're talking about millions and millions of molecules. 491 00:27:26,689 --> 00:27:28,729 [Paul] Early on, every option has to be on the table 492 00:27:28,758 --> 00:27:29,907 if it's gonna help save lives. 493 00:27:29,931 --> 00:27:32,551 A mass evacuation of large areas of Salisbury 494 00:27:32,586 --> 00:27:34,137 to protect the public 495 00:27:34,172 --> 00:27:35,344 was a possibility. 496 00:27:37,655 --> 00:27:39,665 [Man] A chemical weapon hadn't been used in Western Europe 497 00:27:39,689 --> 00:27:41,586 since world war I. 498 00:27:41,620 --> 00:27:44,448 And it was clearly and unlawful use 499 00:27:44,482 --> 00:27:46,758 of a very reckless form of force 500 00:27:46,793 --> 00:27:50,034 against the UK and against a British citizen. 501 00:27:50,896 --> 00:27:53,551 Novichok was a new nerve agent 502 00:27:53,586 --> 00:27:56,000 developed in the late years of the Soviet union 503 00:27:56,034 --> 00:27:57,448 in the 1980s. 504 00:27:57,482 --> 00:28:00,206 As soon as it became clear that the nerve agent was a novichok, 505 00:28:00,241 --> 00:28:06,344 we knew that only Russia possessed that kind of capability. 506 00:28:06,379 --> 00:28:09,137 Me, as the national security advisor advising the prime minister, 507 00:28:09,172 --> 00:28:12,413 I was always clear that the Russians were the prime suspect. 508 00:28:12,448 --> 00:28:13,827 [Speaking Russian] 509 00:28:19,517 --> 00:28:21,482 [Hamish] The Russians were trying to put across 510 00:28:21,517 --> 00:28:25,655 that this novichok had not originated in Russia, 511 00:28:25,689 --> 00:28:30,034 creating the view that the brits were responsible for it, 512 00:28:31,241 --> 00:28:33,275 you know, they'd done it to themselves. 513 00:28:33,310 --> 00:28:35,896 Near everybody had done it, except the Russians. 514 00:28:35,931 --> 00:28:38,896 Yet every news channel was full of this stuff. 515 00:28:38,931 --> 00:28:43,172 Information warfare, disinformation, or propaganda, 516 00:28:43,206 --> 00:28:45,379 it is part of the Russian armory. 517 00:28:47,241 --> 00:28:49,137 [Man] Why don't you ask yourselves the question, 518 00:28:49,172 --> 00:28:52,206 "how can the British authorities so quickly 519 00:28:53,551 --> 00:28:56,241 manage to designate the nerve agent used 520 00:28:56,275 --> 00:28:57,965 as something called novichok? 521 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,044 It has a chemical signature that they were able to... 522 00:29:00,068 --> 00:29:03,758 But when you have a nerve agent or whatever, 523 00:29:03,793 --> 00:29:07,862 you check it against certain samples that you retain in your laboratory. 524 00:29:10,137 --> 00:29:12,758 [Man] The defence science and technology laboratory 525 00:29:12,793 --> 00:29:15,344 at porton down, just near Salisbury 526 00:29:15,379 --> 00:29:18,896 I've worked with most of my military career. 527 00:29:18,931 --> 00:29:21,103 They are the world's experts 528 00:29:21,137 --> 00:29:23,827 in chemical and biological type warfare. 529 00:29:24,827 --> 00:29:28,655 Porton down is the largest military facility 530 00:29:28,689 --> 00:29:30,000 in the United Kingdom 531 00:29:30,034 --> 00:29:34,448 that has been dealing with chemical weapons research. 532 00:29:34,482 --> 00:29:39,103 And it's actually only eight miles from Salisbury. 533 00:29:39,137 --> 00:29:40,620 I've lived in Salisbury my whole life, 534 00:29:40,655 --> 00:29:42,344 but I couldn't tell you a great deal about 535 00:29:42,379 --> 00:29:45,103 what actually goes on inside porton down. 536 00:29:45,137 --> 00:29:48,517 Porton down does have a reputation for being quite mysterious, 537 00:29:48,551 --> 00:29:54,448 and for having strange conspiracies and stories that surround it. 538 00:29:54,482 --> 00:29:58,586 They're investigating aliens, they're talking about mass poisonings, 539 00:29:58,620 --> 00:30:02,137 they're doing all sorts of experiments to do with animal testing. 540 00:30:07,965 --> 00:30:09,586 Porton down, I am sure, 541 00:30:09,620 --> 00:30:13,965 has the files and details of what novichok is and how to make it. 542 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,103 We certainly have the formulas 543 00:30:16,137 --> 00:30:19,000 and that was from people who'd defected from Russia 544 00:30:19,034 --> 00:30:21,137 back in the 70s and 80s. 545 00:30:22,517 --> 00:30:25,310 But the fact that a level four biosecure laboratory 546 00:30:25,344 --> 00:30:28,068 where the most deadly pathogens are stored 547 00:30:28,103 --> 00:30:30,344 and worked on is in Salisbury 548 00:30:30,379 --> 00:30:31,827 is just a quirk of fate. 549 00:30:33,379 --> 00:30:34,907 [Olga] For the Russians, in spy stories, 550 00:30:34,931 --> 00:30:36,517 there is never any coincidence. 551 00:30:36,551 --> 00:30:39,896 You're not suggesting that porton down is responsible for this nerve agent? 552 00:30:39,931 --> 00:30:41,517 I don't know. I don't know... 553 00:30:41,551 --> 00:30:44,758 I don't have an evidence of anything be... having been used. 554 00:30:44,793 --> 00:30:51,068 I was following the Russian take on the story quite closely. 555 00:30:51,103 --> 00:30:54,448 The Salisbury journal website was flooded 556 00:30:54,482 --> 00:30:57,896 with hundreds of comments that were from Russia. 557 00:31:01,413 --> 00:31:02,907 [Lord Mark sedwill] Through various means 558 00:31:02,931 --> 00:31:05,586 they put out dozens and dozens of different stories, 559 00:31:05,620 --> 00:31:08,172 some of them completely implausible, 560 00:31:08,206 --> 00:31:12,413 just simply in order to confuse people. 561 00:31:12,448 --> 00:31:16,241 [Speaking Russian] 562 00:31:26,379 --> 00:31:30,000 People believed the conspiracy narrative. 563 00:31:30,034 --> 00:31:34,758 I think in that first week after the attack we lost the information war. 564 00:31:34,793 --> 00:31:37,206 [Crowd jeering] 565 00:31:38,862 --> 00:31:42,103 It is now clear that Mr. Skripal and his daughter 566 00:31:42,137 --> 00:31:47,172 were poisoned with a military-grade nerve agent known as novichok. 567 00:31:47,206 --> 00:31:50,241 Based on the positive identification of this chemical agent 568 00:31:50,275 --> 00:31:54,103 by world leading experts at the defense, science and technology laboratory 569 00:31:54,137 --> 00:31:58,482 at porton down, the government has concluded that it is highly likely 570 00:31:58,517 --> 00:32:00,275 that Russia was responsible. 571 00:32:00,310 --> 00:32:04,586 [Russian anthem plays] 572 00:32:04,620 --> 00:32:08,206 [Lord sedwill] The willingness to use chemical weapons, targeted assassination, 573 00:32:08,241 --> 00:32:11,931 operations of the kind we saw against the skripals, 574 00:32:11,965 --> 00:32:16,103 it's inconceivable that a program of that kind would have been conducted 575 00:32:16,137 --> 00:32:18,448 without the approval of president putin. 576 00:32:18,482 --> 00:32:20,896 [Russian anthem continues] 577 00:32:39,586 --> 00:32:42,026 [Woman] Are you strong enough to take on putin, prime minister? 578 00:32:44,413 --> 00:32:47,148 [Theresa may] Mr. Speaker, this was not just an act of attempted murder 579 00:32:47,172 --> 00:32:52,206 in Salisbury, it is an affront to the prohibition on the use of chemical weapons. 580 00:32:52,241 --> 00:32:56,448 The United Kingdom will now expel 23 Russian diplomats 581 00:32:56,482 --> 00:32:58,620 - [audience murmurs] - Who have been identified 582 00:32:58,655 --> 00:33:01,206 as undeclared intelligence officers. 583 00:33:03,620 --> 00:33:06,551 Nerve agents are a weapon of mass destruction. 584 00:33:08,517 --> 00:33:10,241 Having been chucked in the deep end, 585 00:33:10,275 --> 00:33:17,448 and I had to learn on the job how these evil toxic substances work. 586 00:33:17,482 --> 00:33:20,034 You know, that's why I didn't sleep much that first week 587 00:33:20,068 --> 00:33:24,275 because every sinew was straining for that. 588 00:33:24,310 --> 00:33:28,448 Given it was such an evil act we felt like we wanted to beat it. 589 00:33:29,896 --> 00:33:33,034 [Nick Bailey] My room in intensive care became my world. 590 00:33:33,068 --> 00:33:35,665 The doctors and the nurses, the consultants would come in to see me 591 00:33:35,689 --> 00:33:41,482 in completely, like, full suits, masks, visors, 592 00:33:41,517 --> 00:33:43,344 double, triple gloves. 593 00:33:43,379 --> 00:33:45,034 You know, they have to protect themselves, 594 00:33:45,068 --> 00:33:48,172 but that kind of fueled my fear of the unknown. 595 00:33:48,206 --> 00:33:53,517 It fueled my terror. I've got no idea how this is gonna play out. 596 00:33:53,551 --> 00:33:58,379 I thought that I was gonna be locked up in a mental institute. 597 00:34:02,620 --> 00:34:05,140 [Amber rudd] Very dramatic, it felt to me, visiting the hospital. 598 00:34:06,862 --> 00:34:10,379 I was taken up to see detective sergeant Nick Bailey. 599 00:34:10,413 --> 00:34:15,172 I've never seen so many wires going into a man's body. 600 00:34:15,206 --> 00:34:18,034 It was a shock just to see him in that state. 601 00:34:18,068 --> 00:34:22,103 I was conscious throughout my time in hospital, 602 00:34:22,137 --> 00:34:24,551 whereas Sergei and yulia weren't. 603 00:34:24,586 --> 00:34:26,413 They were worse because they had, probably, 604 00:34:26,448 --> 00:34:29,206 had a stronger hit of it than I did, 605 00:34:29,241 --> 00:34:31,827 and as such I didn't fall unconscious 606 00:34:31,862 --> 00:34:34,482 or wasn't needed to put into a coma. 607 00:34:34,517 --> 00:34:36,793 [Rudd] The consultant who was in charge 608 00:34:36,827 --> 00:34:40,310 was on the verge of tears as I spoke to him. 609 00:34:40,344 --> 00:34:42,275 [Machines beeping] 610 00:34:46,862 --> 00:34:51,655 I went into intensive care as a profession, 611 00:34:51,689 --> 00:34:55,896 partly because my dad was critically ill when I was a kid. 612 00:34:56,931 --> 00:34:58,310 And... 613 00:34:59,172 --> 00:35:02,413 The icu guys saved his life. 614 00:35:02,448 --> 00:35:06,206 And so, [voice shaking] Yeah, that's what I wanted to do for my patients 615 00:35:06,241 --> 00:35:08,034 was to save their lives. 616 00:35:10,034 --> 00:35:14,758 - [Siren wailing] - [Rudd] I realized that Nick Bailey was going to live 617 00:35:14,793 --> 00:35:19,758 because the consultant slept hardly at all in days, 618 00:35:19,793 --> 00:35:23,827 trying to keep his patients alive and he was winning. 619 00:35:25,724 --> 00:35:31,793 There were so, so many people, doctors, nurses, consultants 620 00:35:31,827 --> 00:35:34,793 that were involved in looking after me. 621 00:35:34,827 --> 00:35:37,620 Undoubtedly, they saved my life. 622 00:35:37,655 --> 00:35:40,068 James haslam was one of those people 623 00:35:40,103 --> 00:35:41,965 and he's got a tiny little place in my heart 624 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,655 because he's part of that horrific ordeal in hospital, 625 00:35:46,689 --> 00:35:48,931 and I'm incredibly grateful. 626 00:35:48,965 --> 00:35:53,862 At heart, I'm an emotional englishman and I... 627 00:35:53,896 --> 00:35:57,241 [Scoffs] Emotions are just below the surface for me. 628 00:35:57,275 --> 00:36:04,241 I've looked after all kinds of dying, sick patients and... 629 00:36:05,689 --> 00:36:10,724 I think every patient who survives is... 630 00:36:10,758 --> 00:36:14,206 Wonderful, and that's why we do the job. 631 00:36:14,241 --> 00:36:16,448 I do care deeply about patients. 632 00:36:18,103 --> 00:36:21,482 With all the press around, we had to sneak Nick out 633 00:36:21,517 --> 00:36:22,797 of the backdoor of the hospital. 634 00:36:29,068 --> 00:36:32,551 [Woman] Sergeant Nick Bailey's condition has now improved, and he was discharged 635 00:36:32,586 --> 00:36:35,241 from Salisbury district hospital this afternoon. 636 00:36:36,620 --> 00:36:39,689 I personally want to wish Nick and his family well, 637 00:36:39,724 --> 00:36:42,379 and I know that the staff right across the hospital 638 00:36:42,413 --> 00:36:44,896 will want me to share their very best wishes. 639 00:36:44,931 --> 00:36:49,206 I also want to update you on the condition of Sergei skripal. 640 00:36:49,241 --> 00:36:52,344 He's responding well to treatment, improving rapidly, 641 00:36:52,379 --> 00:36:55,413 and is no longer in a critical condition. 642 00:36:55,448 --> 00:36:58,275 [Dr. Haslam] My sickest patients, two Russian nationals, 643 00:36:58,310 --> 00:37:00,620 had dramatically turned a corner 644 00:37:00,655 --> 00:37:04,413 and had stabilized physiologically, which was a huge relief. 645 00:37:04,448 --> 00:37:07,137 [Machines beeping] 646 00:37:07,172 --> 00:37:09,931 [Lorna wilkinson] And, as the skripals started to wake up, 647 00:37:09,965 --> 00:37:14,724 they both made quick strides in their recovery. 648 00:37:14,758 --> 00:37:18,137 It actually was then shorter than we expected 649 00:37:18,172 --> 00:37:22,448 from that time to them actually gaining consciousness, 650 00:37:22,482 --> 00:37:25,413 being awake, being able to converse with us. 651 00:37:25,448 --> 00:37:30,068 But, obviously, very quickly the police got involved. 652 00:37:30,103 --> 00:37:32,172 This was part of a major investigation. 653 00:37:33,655 --> 00:37:38,068 This had so much complexity to it. It had the political angle, 654 00:37:38,103 --> 00:37:41,379 it had the world of espionage, 655 00:37:41,413 --> 00:37:46,241 and took us to the edge of a world 656 00:37:46,275 --> 00:37:49,344 that most of us don't even know exists. 657 00:37:49,379 --> 00:37:53,586 We think it's the stuff ofjames bond films. 658 00:37:55,482 --> 00:38:00,103 The Russians like using exotic methods 659 00:38:00,137 --> 00:38:04,310 to take out people who they don't approve of. 660 00:38:04,344 --> 00:38:07,344 You know, the stabbing, the spraying or whatever. 661 00:38:07,379 --> 00:38:12,586 You know, litvinenko, polonium-210, a drop being put in his tea. 662 00:38:12,620 --> 00:38:16,689 You let mother Russia down and mother Russia will take you down. 663 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,206 [Speaking Russian] 664 00:38:26,551 --> 00:38:31,482 A case like this is enormously complex, and just one strand of that 665 00:38:31,517 --> 00:38:35,896 was Sergei and yulia skripal's movements 666 00:38:35,931 --> 00:38:39,793 on the day the poisons took a hold on them. 667 00:38:39,827 --> 00:38:42,724 In terms of the investigation tracking down ground zero, 668 00:38:42,758 --> 00:38:45,413 where was novichok administered? 669 00:38:46,448 --> 00:38:48,655 The cctv was giving us the picture of 670 00:38:48,689 --> 00:38:51,137 the movement of the skripals during that day. 671 00:38:59,586 --> 00:39:03,862 [Ebru ozturk] Mr. Skripal was one of my favorite customers. 672 00:39:03,896 --> 00:39:06,000 He made me always smile. 673 00:39:08,275 --> 00:39:14,448 He's very kind, very happy, cheerful, never rush. 674 00:39:14,482 --> 00:39:17,448 He's very slow, calm, you know, the... 675 00:39:17,482 --> 00:39:21,275 And he use, "no problem." 676 00:39:21,310 --> 00:39:24,172 He's always used this, "no problem." 677 00:39:24,206 --> 00:39:26,827 This phrases always remind me of him. 678 00:39:26,862 --> 00:39:30,620 He's like a proper, proper grandfather, you know? 679 00:39:32,172 --> 00:39:36,344 Last time Mr. Skripal came to my shop, 680 00:39:36,379 --> 00:39:39,448 he mentioned the daughter is coming to see him 681 00:39:39,482 --> 00:39:41,413 and they're going to spend time together 682 00:39:41,448 --> 00:39:44,448 which make him very happy. 683 00:39:44,482 --> 00:39:46,310 You know, he was excited. 684 00:39:50,068 --> 00:39:52,931 That was the last time I saw him. 685 00:40:00,310 --> 00:40:02,551 Yulia has recently arrived from Russia, 686 00:40:02,586 --> 00:40:05,517 looking forward to a holiday with her dad. 687 00:40:05,551 --> 00:40:08,172 We know that one of the first things she did when she got to the UK 688 00:40:08,206 --> 00:40:12,517 was go and visit her mom's grave, which they had done together. 689 00:40:13,793 --> 00:40:15,413 We know they've been into a pub. 690 00:40:15,448 --> 00:40:17,389 [Paul mills] We know they've then been to a restaurant 691 00:40:17,413 --> 00:40:18,862 and then they've become unwell. 692 00:40:18,896 --> 00:40:20,655 And we've got nine different scenes 693 00:40:20,689 --> 00:40:23,275 that are up and running in Salisbury. 694 00:40:23,310 --> 00:40:26,068 We learned more and more, and what was very clear 695 00:40:26,103 --> 00:40:27,758 that everybody that had become ill 696 00:40:27,793 --> 00:40:30,724 had been directly in contact with the front door of Sergei's house. 697 00:40:37,620 --> 00:40:41,172 [Nick] A couple of weeks after leaving hospital 698 00:40:41,206 --> 00:40:43,931 I was shocked to learn that it was on the door handle. 699 00:40:45,103 --> 00:40:46,562 I was the first person through the door 700 00:40:46,586 --> 00:40:48,586 after they had become poisoned, 701 00:40:48,620 --> 00:40:55,310 and so it got onto my glove, and somehow got onto my skin, and into my blood system. 702 00:40:55,344 --> 00:40:59,275 [Tracy daszkiewicz] That door was removed, and at that point we then knew 703 00:40:59,310 --> 00:41:01,965 that the science that we'd use to track his movements 704 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,172 had been the right approach. 705 00:41:04,206 --> 00:41:07,965 [Nick] Such a brazen attempt on someone's life, 706 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,758 and anybody could have touched that door handle. 707 00:41:10,793 --> 00:41:11,793 It angered me. 708 00:41:13,689 --> 00:41:16,068 Novichok, without a doubt, is a killer. 709 00:41:16,103 --> 00:41:20,551 Let's be clear, it's a military-grade chemical weapon. 710 00:41:20,586 --> 00:41:23,758 Those that came to target Mr. Skripal and yulia 711 00:41:23,793 --> 00:41:25,448 were intending to kill them. 712 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,827 [Speaking Russian] 713 00:41:35,793 --> 00:41:39,448 [Rebecca Hudson] Russian disinformation was intensifying. 714 00:41:39,482 --> 00:41:43,517 There were dozens of wild theories about what I had done 715 00:41:43,551 --> 00:41:45,172 or what I hadn't done. 716 00:41:45,206 --> 00:41:49,758 I was accused of having burner phones buried in my back garden 717 00:41:49,793 --> 00:41:56,793 that I would dig up at night to contact all sorts of people to help plan these attacks. 718 00:41:56,827 --> 00:41:59,241 [Nick] At one point, I was accused of being the assassin. 719 00:41:59,275 --> 00:42:03,517 I was accused of being Sergei's handler. 720 00:42:03,551 --> 00:42:05,896 I was accused of working for MI6. 721 00:42:05,931 --> 00:42:12,689 The most ridiculous of those, I think, was that I had stolen the skripal's cat. 722 00:42:12,724 --> 00:42:14,344 Obviously, none of this true. 723 00:42:16,965 --> 00:42:21,241 One of the lines that was coming out in Russian reporting 724 00:42:21,275 --> 00:42:24,172 was that Sergei and yulia skripal were being, almost, 725 00:42:24,206 --> 00:42:26,827 held against their will in the hospital 726 00:42:26,862 --> 00:42:29,862 and not being allowed to talk to relatives or see relatives. 727 00:42:29,896 --> 00:42:31,586 We want to see the evidence. 728 00:42:31,620 --> 00:42:35,413 We want to have access to Russian nationals. 729 00:42:35,448 --> 00:42:36,896 We are denied. 730 00:42:36,931 --> 00:42:40,655 And we want to make our own investigation, 731 00:42:40,689 --> 00:42:42,896 and we want to understand what happened there. 732 00:42:42,931 --> 00:42:45,655 The Russians suggested that the skripals had been 733 00:42:45,689 --> 00:42:49,758 abducted by UK authorities in some form, 734 00:42:49,793 --> 00:42:51,689 which, obviously, was completely ridiculous 735 00:42:51,724 --> 00:42:54,586 but it was part of their disinformation campaign. 736 00:42:54,620 --> 00:42:58,206 [Speaking Russian] 737 00:43:01,310 --> 00:43:05,586 There were people even within the city, a minority, 738 00:43:05,620 --> 00:43:11,103 but who started to question, "is this real? This hadn't happened. 739 00:43:11,137 --> 00:43:16,310 These patients weren't here. Sergei didn't survive. He couldn't have survived. 740 00:43:17,275 --> 00:43:18,551 This was all fake." 741 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,517 He absolutely did survive, the same as yulia survived 742 00:43:27,379 --> 00:43:29,000 so yeah, they're wrong. 743 00:43:30,068 --> 00:43:32,413 [Speaking Russian] 744 00:43:46,793 --> 00:43:49,344 [Speaking Russian] 745 00:44:03,206 --> 00:44:05,482 [Lorna] Yulia had survived. 746 00:44:05,517 --> 00:44:09,310 We hadn't thought anybody would survive novichok poisoning. 747 00:44:09,344 --> 00:44:12,172 I think that, collectively, 748 00:44:12,206 --> 00:44:16,896 there was almost a sadness at saying goodbye to her 749 00:44:16,931 --> 00:44:19,862 because she was also saying goodbye to somebody 750 00:44:19,896 --> 00:44:24,241 who you knew would get swallowed up into a secret world. 751 00:44:24,275 --> 00:44:28,413 We all knew that her life would be changed forever. 752 00:44:30,137 --> 00:44:35,034 It was Sergei's choice to be a professional spy and he answers for that. 753 00:44:35,068 --> 00:44:39,655 But then, suddenly, you know, it affects other people who never signed up for that. 754 00:44:39,689 --> 00:44:43,137 Did his daughter sign up for that? No, she didn't. 755 00:44:43,896 --> 00:44:46,931 [Speaking Russian] 756 00:44:51,689 --> 00:44:53,620 [Duncan Murray] Sergei had been really sick. 757 00:44:53,655 --> 00:44:56,862 In extraordinary circumstances someone had tried to kill him. 758 00:44:56,896 --> 00:44:58,689 My name's Duncan Murray, 759 00:44:58,724 --> 00:45:03,034 and I'm a consultant anesthetist and intensive care specialist. 760 00:45:03,068 --> 00:45:07,413 I happened to be the attending consultant 761 00:45:07,448 --> 00:45:11,793 at the time that he was able to breathe unassisted. 762 00:45:11,827 --> 00:45:15,000 He didn't die when he was in Salisbury hospital. 763 00:45:15,034 --> 00:45:18,724 I don't know what's happened beyond that, but, yeah. 764 00:45:18,758 --> 00:45:21,620 The last time I saw him [Laughing] he was alive, 765 00:45:21,655 --> 00:45:23,310 and I've got no reason to believe that 766 00:45:23,344 --> 00:45:25,103 he didn't leave the hospital alive. 767 00:45:25,137 --> 00:45:26,724 Yeah. 768 00:45:28,172 --> 00:45:30,344 [Dr. Haslam] On discharging our last patient 769 00:45:30,379 --> 00:45:33,241 there was a real sense of relief, of accomplishment. 770 00:45:33,275 --> 00:45:35,137 Things started to return to normal. 771 00:45:35,172 --> 00:45:38,689 All the fanfare of the press and everything had gone. 772 00:45:38,724 --> 00:45:41,275 - [Bells chiming] - In the back of our minds 773 00:45:41,310 --> 00:45:45,517 there was a sense that the police hadn't found the novichok, 774 00:45:45,551 --> 00:45:47,827 and so there was a niggling feeling. 775 00:45:47,862 --> 00:45:51,241 Could it still be out there? Do we need to be worried? 776 00:45:51,275 --> 00:45:56,620 When a story involves spies and exiles, 777 00:45:56,655 --> 00:46:00,103 the public will want to know, "well, what really went on? What's under the surface?" 778 00:46:01,344 --> 00:46:03,172 In terms of the investigation, 779 00:46:03,206 --> 00:46:08,068 we're very interested in finding the team behind this, the suspects. 780 00:46:08,103 --> 00:46:12,413 [Paul] Slowly but surely, the counterterrorism police were able to narrow down 781 00:46:12,448 --> 00:46:16,000 with the cctv imaging, and then have that Eureka moment. 782 00:46:20,931 --> 00:46:25,689 We're able to see our two suspects arriving at the train station. 783 00:46:25,724 --> 00:46:28,137 Well, if they're only in Salisbury for a short period of time, 784 00:46:28,172 --> 00:46:31,379 and then we'd know that they go back to London after the attack, 785 00:46:31,413 --> 00:46:36,586 and certainly by early evening they're on a flight back to Russia. 786 00:46:36,620 --> 00:46:40,551 Counterterrorism police needed to identify those two suspects. 787 00:46:41,965 --> 00:46:44,931 [Sir Mark rowley] It was quite possible that the offenders 788 00:46:44,965 --> 00:46:47,724 may have taken the exact novichok agent, 789 00:46:47,758 --> 00:46:51,344 that was used to attempt to kill Sergei skripal, with them. 790 00:46:51,379 --> 00:46:53,872 They may have destroyed it in a completely different part of the country, 791 00:46:53,896 --> 00:46:55,862 but it stayed high on our list of priorities 792 00:46:55,896 --> 00:46:58,448 because public safety was the number one issue. 793 00:46:58,482 --> 00:47:01,448 [Paul] It's back to the needle in the haystack. 794 00:47:01,482 --> 00:47:03,068 The novichok getting where that was 795 00:47:03,103 --> 00:47:07,482 is still a major, major question Mark for us. 796 00:47:07,517 --> 00:47:12,931 We had gone through everything in terms of checking and checking again. 797 00:47:12,965 --> 00:47:16,862 I felt Salisbury was safe. I wasn't in any doubt. 798 00:47:19,793 --> 00:47:20,872 [Radio reporter] First of all, 799 00:47:20,896 --> 00:47:22,586 spire fm news at three o'clock. 800 00:47:22,620 --> 00:47:24,665 [Radio reporter 2] Prince Charles and the duchess of cornwall 801 00:47:24,689 --> 00:47:29,551 have visited Salisbury to help drum up trade after the nerve agent attack. 802 00:47:29,586 --> 00:47:33,965 [Rebecca] By June, we were just returning to normality 803 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,689 and not writing about Russians or nerve agents in every paper. 804 00:47:41,344 --> 00:47:43,586 The big story at the Salisbury journal at the time 805 00:47:43,620 --> 00:47:47,931 was people coming from all over the country, or from all over the world, 806 00:47:47,965 --> 00:47:51,172 to celebrate the summer solstice at stonehenge. 807 00:47:51,206 --> 00:47:54,896 - Not many cities have a druid community. - [Man] Diva. 808 00:47:54,931 --> 00:48:00,620 -[All] Diva. -[Man] ♪ diva, diva ♪ 809 00:48:00,655 --> 00:48:04,689 The stonehenge solstice that happens in June every year 810 00:48:04,724 --> 00:48:08,034 is our biggest policing operation. 811 00:48:08,068 --> 00:48:11,275 Over 10,000 people. You're there as the sun comes up 812 00:48:11,310 --> 00:48:14,137 and it's a wonderful place to be. 813 00:48:14,172 --> 00:48:15,872 [Arthur pendragon] And if you grew up around here, 814 00:48:15,896 --> 00:48:20,275 Salisbury and stonehenge are part and parcel of the same thing 815 00:48:20,310 --> 00:48:21,655 and it's in your DNA. 816 00:48:22,655 --> 00:48:24,482 Solstice 2018, 817 00:48:24,517 --> 00:48:29,103 this was the first ceremony we'd had here after the poisoning. 818 00:48:29,137 --> 00:48:33,793 We said some prayers for all those affected. 819 00:48:33,827 --> 00:48:36,965 This is rural wiltshire. Everybody knows everybody. 820 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,172 Salisbury is a small community and we jokingly refer to it as smallsbury, 821 00:48:41,206 --> 00:48:44,793 so everybody knew someone who was touched by it. 822 00:48:47,827 --> 00:48:51,413 [Rebecca] We had been told repeatedly that Salisbury was safe 823 00:48:51,448 --> 00:48:56,551 and that the nerve agent areas had all been identified. 824 00:48:57,413 --> 00:48:58,413 And then... [sighs] 825 00:48:59,482 --> 00:49:01,758 We had heard that there had been 826 00:49:02,517 --> 00:49:04,310 an unexplained incident. 827 00:49:04,344 --> 00:49:10,034 There were a lot of parallels with what had happened back in march. 828 00:49:10,068 --> 00:49:12,010 [Reporter] A major incident's been declared in amesbury, 829 00:49:12,034 --> 00:49:14,206 where police think a man and a woman left critically ill 830 00:49:14,241 --> 00:49:16,896 may have been exposed to an unknown substance. 831 00:49:16,931 --> 00:49:18,931 [Rebecca] I didn't recognize Charlie rowley, 832 00:49:18,965 --> 00:49:21,517 but Charlie had been arrested a few times 833 00:49:21,551 --> 00:49:23,758 and the journal had reported on that. 834 00:49:25,896 --> 00:49:30,758 [Charlie] I found a novichok bottle a week after my girlfriend, 835 00:49:30,793 --> 00:49:33,206 dawn, done the summer solstice. 836 00:49:33,241 --> 00:49:37,724 Dawn, basically, grew up in the closest village to stonehenge. 837 00:49:39,827 --> 00:49:44,172 My name is Charlie rowley. I went through a state of homelessness. 838 00:49:45,689 --> 00:49:47,344 But it, you know, and it got better. 839 00:49:47,379 --> 00:49:50,827 You know, and I got me own place. It was like a dream come true. 840 00:49:52,034 --> 00:49:55,310 I had a lovely, lovely girlfriend, dawn. 841 00:49:55,344 --> 00:50:00,827 And the whole thing of getting a new flat was overwhelming. 842 00:50:00,862 --> 00:50:04,379 You know, it blew me socks off. 843 00:50:04,413 --> 00:50:08,448 I knew that there was gonna be sunshine at the end of the cloud. 844 00:50:08,482 --> 00:50:10,458 [Reporter] The pair in their forties were found unconscious 845 00:50:10,482 --> 00:50:13,517 at a property in muggleton road on Saturday evening. 846 00:50:13,551 --> 00:50:19,206 Charlie got a brand new flat and he invited dawn to come and live with him. 847 00:50:19,241 --> 00:50:22,448 And the pair of 'em were like, "wow, it's the perfect family home. 848 00:50:22,482 --> 00:50:24,344 It's a brand new fresh start." 849 00:50:25,206 --> 00:50:27,482 A dream home for the pair of them. 850 00:50:27,517 --> 00:50:32,448 And so, they set about building their little love nest up together. 851 00:50:36,344 --> 00:50:39,862 [Charlie] I furnished my flat with stuff that had been thrown away, 852 00:50:39,896 --> 00:50:46,000 and my past time was going around various charity shop bins 853 00:50:46,034 --> 00:50:51,275 and get electrical equipment, or kitchenware and stuff. 854 00:50:52,137 --> 00:50:55,931 Just digging in deep, really. 855 00:50:55,965 --> 00:51:00,344 You could find, like, all sorts of things, like gold necklaces, 856 00:51:00,379 --> 00:51:03,068 to silver, to earings and all sorts. 857 00:51:03,103 --> 00:51:05,344 And it would all be proper and gold. 858 00:51:05,379 --> 00:51:08,689 And I would have treasures to take back to dawn. 859 00:51:08,724 --> 00:51:11,344 She would look forward to seeing me the next day 860 00:51:11,379 --> 00:51:13,655 to see what I'd pull out of my sack. 861 00:51:13,689 --> 00:51:17,896 One person's rubbish is another man's gold as they say. 862 00:51:21,862 --> 00:51:26,206 [Charlie] But I remember going to the bin and going through it, 863 00:51:26,241 --> 00:51:31,620 and I found a perfume box for dawn. 864 00:51:31,655 --> 00:51:33,275 I thought, "hey, winner, winner." 865 00:51:33,310 --> 00:51:38,172 And it was all in plastic, all sealed, and it looked expensive. 866 00:51:38,206 --> 00:51:39,793 So I put it in me pocket. 867 00:51:39,827 --> 00:51:41,896 He loves little treasures that he finds, but then, 868 00:51:41,931 --> 00:51:44,034 obviously, he come across this bottle 869 00:51:44,068 --> 00:51:45,689 which he thought was a good treasure, 870 00:51:45,724 --> 00:51:47,965 a bottle of perfume. 871 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,010 He ended up doing something the police didn't achieve 872 00:51:50,034 --> 00:51:51,862 by finding the novichok bottle. 873 00:51:55,413 --> 00:51:57,275 I mean, we think there was about a a quarter, 874 00:51:57,310 --> 00:51:58,424 an eighth of a cup of novichok. 875 00:51:58,448 --> 00:52:01,172 If you administered that correctly 876 00:52:01,206 --> 00:52:04,379 it could have killed tens of thousands of people. 877 00:52:06,137 --> 00:52:08,586 This wasn't a standard Nina ricci bottle. 878 00:52:08,620 --> 00:52:13,931 This had been manufactured so that the applicator was key. 879 00:52:13,965 --> 00:52:18,448 Finding the perfume bottle was the most important piece of the puzzle. 880 00:52:23,275 --> 00:52:25,551 [Charlie] It was Saturday, the 30th of June. 881 00:52:25,586 --> 00:52:30,827 I gave the bottle of perfume to my girlfriend, dawn. 882 00:52:30,862 --> 00:52:33,620 She said, "oh, that's a good one. That's a good make." 883 00:52:33,655 --> 00:52:36,620 And I thought I'd done well then, you know? 884 00:52:39,310 --> 00:52:45,413 So, it was in a cardboard box in a heat sealed kind of package. 885 00:52:45,448 --> 00:52:47,241 It was, like, molded to the bottle 886 00:52:47,275 --> 00:52:52,310 so I had to use a sharp kitchen knife to cut it open. 887 00:52:52,344 --> 00:52:56,724 I then put the top nozzle on to the glass bottle 888 00:52:56,758 --> 00:52:58,758 and covered me hands in the spray. 889 00:52:59,931 --> 00:53:05,000 I washed it off and then gave it to dawn. 890 00:53:05,034 --> 00:53:09,172 And she was quite happy and sprayed it on herself. 891 00:53:09,206 --> 00:53:13,448 She had one squirt on her wrists, like that, and rubbed them together. 892 00:53:15,862 --> 00:53:18,655 Yeah, one squirt on the wrists and rubbed them. 893 00:53:30,620 --> 00:53:32,793 I carry a hell of a lot of guilt 894 00:53:32,827 --> 00:53:37,172 because I gave that... Novichok to my girlfriend. 895 00:53:39,172 --> 00:53:41,551 I knew that she cared for me and stuff, 896 00:53:41,586 --> 00:53:45,586 and she said that she wanted a sapphire ring for an engagement ring, 897 00:53:45,620 --> 00:53:49,862 but she would quite happily settle for a haribo ring, 898 00:53:49,896 --> 00:53:51,241 and that said it all, really. 899 00:53:51,896 --> 00:53:52,896 Yeah. 900 00:53:54,689 --> 00:54:00,655 I went into the bathroom and she was in a bad way. 901 00:54:00,689 --> 00:54:06,413 Like, staring at nothing and foaming at the mouth. So I called her name. 902 00:54:06,448 --> 00:54:10,620 Um... 903 00:54:10,655 --> 00:54:15,655 I shook her and then realized that I had got no response. 904 00:54:15,689 --> 00:54:19,241 Dawn had given up breathing for herself. 905 00:54:40,413 --> 00:54:42,689 [Siren wailing] 906 00:54:45,793 --> 00:54:50,827 I seen an ambulance outside Charlie's house, and then I see getting dawn 907 00:54:50,862 --> 00:54:54,310 taken out on a stretcher, and... 908 00:54:54,344 --> 00:54:58,068 Yeah, it wasn't a nice sight. She didn't look very well at all there, 909 00:54:58,103 --> 00:55:00,551 and it was quite upsetting to see that. 910 00:55:04,931 --> 00:55:07,793 [Sam Hobson] We'd gone back to the flat and Charlie was in bits, 911 00:55:07,827 --> 00:55:10,103 like, emotional wreck, crying, 912 00:55:10,137 --> 00:55:13,758 and then, suddenly, he started acting all weird and paranoid. 913 00:55:13,793 --> 00:55:15,620 And then he just started to try to attack me. 914 00:55:15,655 --> 00:55:17,241 I had him by the neck. 915 00:55:17,275 --> 00:55:20,586 I was trying to strangle him because I thought he'd kill me, try to kill me, 916 00:55:20,620 --> 00:55:22,379 and I thought he'd done the same to dawn. 917 00:55:22,413 --> 00:55:23,700 I said, "Charlie, what are you doing? 918 00:55:23,724 --> 00:55:25,493 I'm your friend and I'm not going to leave you, 919 00:55:25,517 --> 00:55:27,034 even though you're attacking me. 920 00:55:27,068 --> 00:55:29,044 I'm gonna stay with you because it's the right thing to do, 921 00:55:29,068 --> 00:55:30,655 because this isn't you." 922 00:55:33,344 --> 00:55:38,517 But that's when he started showing symptoms of frothing at the mouth, 923 00:55:38,551 --> 00:55:43,758 sweating loads, and his eyes going glazed and red and milky colored. 924 00:55:43,793 --> 00:55:50,275 [Charlie] Oh, well, it's just like something out of a horror movie kind of, 925 00:55:50,310 --> 00:55:51,551 or a zombie film. 926 00:55:51,586 --> 00:55:53,517 I was acting really weird. 927 00:55:54,413 --> 00:55:55,758 Yeah. 928 00:55:56,620 --> 00:55:57,689 Yeah. 929 00:55:57,724 --> 00:55:59,493 Then he started rocking backwards and forwards 930 00:55:59,517 --> 00:56:02,310 and muttering some weird tongue language. 931 00:56:02,344 --> 00:56:06,344 I don't know what it was but I couldn't get any sense out of him at all. 932 00:56:06,379 --> 00:56:08,838 So, that's when I thought there's something definitely wrong here. 933 00:56:08,862 --> 00:56:10,310 So I had to call 999. 934 00:56:12,034 --> 00:56:13,896 [Charlie] He'd done the right thing.[Chuckles] 935 00:56:13,931 --> 00:56:15,851 He'd done the right thing 'cause I'd be dead now. 936 00:56:20,965 --> 00:56:23,448 [Ambulance wailing] 937 00:56:24,862 --> 00:56:26,689 [Dr. Haslam] The first I heard about it, 938 00:56:26,724 --> 00:56:30,724 one of my colleagues had admitted two patients in sequence 939 00:56:30,758 --> 00:56:36,000 who had unusual... An unusual presentation. 940 00:56:36,034 --> 00:56:38,448 And again, alarm bells were ringing. 941 00:56:38,482 --> 00:56:40,448 Could this be similar to before? 942 00:56:40,482 --> 00:56:42,931 It can't be, can it? 943 00:56:42,965 --> 00:56:46,206 As we confirmed in the early hours of this morning, 944 00:56:46,241 --> 00:56:50,620 wiltshire police and partners have declared a major incident 945 00:56:50,655 --> 00:56:55,517 after two people were hospitalized following their potential exposure 946 00:56:55,551 --> 00:56:57,000 to an unknown substance. 947 00:56:57,586 --> 00:56:58,965 I was so shocked. 948 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,862 I was so shocked when actually one of my special advisors, 949 00:57:02,896 --> 00:57:04,551 when I'd been home secretary, 950 00:57:04,586 --> 00:57:06,931 texted me and said, "it's happening again." 951 00:57:08,103 --> 00:57:09,103 Oh, god. 952 00:57:11,034 --> 00:57:13,862 [Rebecca] I was angry that the message had been 953 00:57:13,896 --> 00:57:16,862 that Salisbury was completely safe for so long. 954 00:57:18,793 --> 00:57:20,827 If Salisbury had been safe then... 955 00:57:21,862 --> 00:57:24,034 The second incident wouldn't have happened. 956 00:57:25,793 --> 00:57:28,586 You speak to the police and obviously they can't comment. 957 00:57:28,620 --> 00:57:31,586 And all you want to know is are you safe? 958 00:57:31,620 --> 00:57:32,793 Do you have to do anything? 959 00:57:32,827 --> 00:57:34,379 Is your family gonna be safe? 960 00:57:34,413 --> 00:57:37,586 Is there going to be a further escalation? 961 00:57:37,620 --> 00:57:40,620 [Mills] A real challenge for us with the poisoning of Charlie 962 00:57:40,655 --> 00:57:43,172 was to establish where the novichok was 963 00:57:43,206 --> 00:57:46,724 between incident number one and incident number two. 964 00:57:46,758 --> 00:57:50,344 Where was that novichok for that three month period? 965 00:57:50,379 --> 00:57:54,310 [Rowley] The applicator had been left in Salisbury, 966 00:57:54,344 --> 00:57:58,689 and clearly the police hadn't found it. 967 00:57:58,724 --> 00:58:01,113 And, of course, you'll always look back on things like that and think, 968 00:58:01,137 --> 00:58:05,827 is there something on my watch we could have done differently? 969 00:58:05,862 --> 00:58:09,517 But in the absence of any clues for where they'd abandoned it, 970 00:58:09,551 --> 00:58:12,103 I'm just not sure how we could have got there. 971 00:58:12,137 --> 00:58:13,862 [Reporter 1] Spy affair news at 6:00. 972 00:58:13,896 --> 00:58:16,700 [Reporter 2] Counter terror police aren't ruling out more people falling ill 973 00:58:16,724 --> 00:58:18,931 as a result of the Salisbury spy poisoning. 974 00:58:18,965 --> 00:58:22,931 Charlie rowley and dawn sturgess remain in a critical condition. 975 00:58:22,965 --> 00:58:24,620 [Rebecca] Salisbury's not a big place. 976 00:58:24,655 --> 00:58:27,310 You recognize and know a lot of people. 977 00:58:27,344 --> 00:58:29,965 Dawn was someone who I'd often walked past 978 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,896 or seen on my way to and from work 979 00:58:32,931 --> 00:58:35,103 who was now in hospital being treated 980 00:58:35,137 --> 00:58:37,172 for a nerve agent attack. 981 00:58:38,275 --> 00:58:41,206 Their photographs were passed around the tables, 982 00:58:41,241 --> 00:58:42,976 and I realized the dawn that we're talking about 983 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,689 I'd spent some time with. 984 00:58:46,931 --> 00:58:50,310 So I felt devastated 985 00:58:50,344 --> 00:58:51,862 that she was so ill. 986 00:58:52,931 --> 00:58:54,655 I spontaneously cried. 987 00:58:55,931 --> 00:58:57,689 And, of course, she died later that day. 988 00:59:03,172 --> 00:59:05,689 Someone died and it was a mom with three children. 989 00:59:06,896 --> 00:59:08,379 And that is harrowing. 990 00:59:11,310 --> 00:59:13,482 She was always bright and breezy up in the morning. 991 00:59:13,517 --> 00:59:14,655 She was a morning girl. 992 00:59:14,689 --> 00:59:17,068 Yeah, I think her name fitted her down to a t. 993 00:59:17,103 --> 00:59:22,241 Yeah, she was a bright flame of light, love, and laughter in a little shell, 994 00:59:22,275 --> 00:59:24,034 and she had so much love to give. 995 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,689 She liked glittery objects [Chuckling] 996 00:59:27,724 --> 00:59:29,931 And took a chance on a perfume bottle. 997 00:59:30,517 --> 00:59:32,068 So... 998 00:59:32,103 --> 00:59:34,482 Yeah, real bright soul that I'm gonna miss daily. 999 00:59:37,241 --> 00:59:40,517 I think dawn dying was a real... 1000 00:59:40,551 --> 00:59:42,424 It was a heartbreaking moment for the whole team. 1001 00:59:42,448 --> 00:59:45,689 Any patient who dies under our care affects us. 1002 00:59:51,068 --> 00:59:53,206 [Neil basu] It is both shocking and utterly appalling 1003 00:59:53,241 --> 00:59:57,862 that a British citizen has died having been exposed to a novichok nerve agent. 1004 00:59:58,379 --> 01:00:00,034 But make no mistake. 1005 01:00:00,068 --> 01:00:04,931 We are determined to find out how dawn and her partner Charlie rowley 1006 01:00:04,965 --> 01:00:07,931 came into contact with such a deadly substance. 1007 01:00:07,965 --> 01:00:10,586 The police liaison officers 1008 01:00:10,620 --> 01:00:14,586 got hold of me to confirm that it was novichok. 1009 01:00:14,620 --> 01:00:19,206 They organized for me to go to the hospital to visit Charlie. 1010 01:00:20,862 --> 01:00:23,379 He had so many machines around him, 1011 01:00:24,413 --> 01:00:25,413 and it was... 1012 01:00:26,103 --> 01:00:28,241 It was my brother. 1013 01:00:28,275 --> 01:00:30,482 It was heartbreaking to see it. 1014 01:00:31,379 --> 01:00:33,172 It really was. 1015 01:00:33,206 --> 01:00:35,931 I thought that was the last time I'm gonna see him. 1016 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,793 [Charlie] When I came round out of my coma, 1017 01:00:49,827 --> 01:00:54,137 the police said about a perfume bottle that they'd found, 1018 01:00:54,172 --> 01:00:57,551 and they said it contained the nerve agent novichok. 1019 01:00:58,413 --> 01:01:01,379 I was like, "no, no. It was perfume." 1020 01:01:01,413 --> 01:01:04,413 When he woke up and came off the ventilator, 1021 01:01:04,448 --> 01:01:07,896 we had to explain to him what had happened. 1022 01:01:07,931 --> 01:01:14,931 And it fell to me to be the one to tell Charlie that dawn had died. 1023 01:01:14,965 --> 01:01:17,068 Yeah, I still to this day... 1024 01:01:17,103 --> 01:01:18,482 You know, it chokes me. 1025 01:01:19,551 --> 01:01:21,344 Yeah, it's my girlfriend I lost. 1026 01:01:21,379 --> 01:01:22,689 My partner. 1027 01:01:22,724 --> 01:01:23,965 My soul mate. 1028 01:01:25,413 --> 01:01:26,724 Mmm. 1029 01:01:32,793 --> 01:01:34,551 [Members of parliament] Hear, hear. 1030 01:01:34,586 --> 01:01:36,586 [Theresa may] With permission Mr. Speaker, 1031 01:01:36,620 --> 01:01:41,275 I would like to update the house on the investigation into the attempted murder 1032 01:01:41,310 --> 01:01:43,827 of Sergei and yulia skripal, 1033 01:01:43,862 --> 01:01:47,965 and the subsequent poisoning of dawn sturgess and Charlie rowley. 1034 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,068 Since then, around 250 detectives 1035 01:01:51,103 --> 01:01:55,620 have trawled through more than 11,000 hours of cctv 1036 01:01:55,655 --> 01:01:58,862 and taken more than 1,400 statements. 1037 01:01:59,724 --> 01:02:01,379 Working around the clock, 1038 01:02:01,413 --> 01:02:04,586 they have carried out painstaking and methodical work 1039 01:02:04,620 --> 01:02:08,448 to ascertain exactly which individuals were responsible 1040 01:02:08,482 --> 01:02:11,482 and the methods they used to carry out this attack. 1041 01:02:14,689 --> 01:02:17,241 [Neil basu] Today we're releasing images of two individuals 1042 01:02:17,275 --> 01:02:19,724 Alexander Petrov and ruslan boshirov. 1043 01:02:19,758 --> 01:02:23,103 They're Russian nationals who traveled to this country on Russian passports. 1044 01:02:23,137 --> 01:02:25,068 The reason we're releasing that footage today is 1045 01:02:25,103 --> 01:02:26,551 we need the public's help. 1046 01:02:26,586 --> 01:02:29,758 We strongly believe they entered this country under aliases. 1047 01:02:29,793 --> 01:02:31,551 Somebody out there will recognize them. 1048 01:02:31,586 --> 01:02:33,137 Somebody out there knows them. 1049 01:02:33,172 --> 01:02:36,206 We'd like those people to come forward and tell us who they really are. 1050 01:02:36,241 --> 01:02:37,838 So, what we now know from the investigation is 1051 01:02:37,862 --> 01:02:41,620 that Petrov and boshirov come in via Gatwick 1052 01:02:41,655 --> 01:02:44,827 on Friday afternoon on the 2nd of march. 1053 01:02:46,965 --> 01:02:48,389 [Mills] On the day of the poisonings, 1054 01:02:48,413 --> 01:02:52,275 you've got these two white males dressed for the weather, 1055 01:02:52,310 --> 01:02:53,965 and they've got a backpack with them. 1056 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,482 And we see them arrive at the train station 1057 01:02:56,517 --> 01:02:59,620 and then ultimately make their way out of the city. 1058 01:02:59,655 --> 01:03:01,689 We have good lines of inquiry 1059 01:03:01,724 --> 01:03:03,206 to try and establish who they are, 1060 01:03:03,241 --> 01:03:04,310 but I need the evidence. 1061 01:03:04,344 --> 01:03:05,689 I need somebody to come forward 1062 01:03:05,724 --> 01:03:07,103 and give me their real names. 1063 01:03:09,379 --> 01:03:13,448 [Roman dobrokhotov] They ask everybody for some more evidence 1064 01:03:14,413 --> 01:03:16,206 about what happened, 1065 01:03:16,241 --> 01:03:19,379 and it was pretty easy for us, 1066 01:03:19,413 --> 01:03:21,413 I mean the insider and bellingcat, 1067 01:03:21,448 --> 01:03:22,413 to investigate them. 1068 01:03:22,448 --> 01:03:25,655 They made so many very stupid mistakes. 1069 01:03:25,689 --> 01:03:26,896 My name is Roman dobrokhotov. 1070 01:03:26,931 --> 01:03:28,620 I'm editor-in-chief of the insider, 1071 01:03:28,655 --> 01:03:31,241 which is Russian investigative online media. 1072 01:03:34,413 --> 01:03:36,034 We found a lot of information. 1073 01:03:36,068 --> 01:03:37,793 When we started to pull it up, 1074 01:03:37,827 --> 01:03:41,344 we saw these people in passport database, 1075 01:03:41,379 --> 01:03:44,517 but all the passport info was empty. 1076 01:03:44,551 --> 01:03:46,586 It means that these are fake people. 1077 01:03:46,620 --> 01:03:49,344 These are not real identities. 1078 01:03:49,379 --> 01:03:54,482 We learned that boshirov and Petrov are really mishkin and chepiga. 1079 01:03:54,517 --> 01:03:57,482 Chepiga participated in the conflict in chechnya. 1080 01:03:57,517 --> 01:04:02,517 Mishkin was a military doctor, so he was supposed to save, actually, people's lives. 1081 01:04:02,551 --> 01:04:04,034 Not to kill them. 1082 01:04:05,103 --> 01:04:08,517 There is a picture of chepiga and Vladimir putin 1083 01:04:08,551 --> 01:04:12,689 where Vladimir putin is giving a medal of hero of Russia, 1084 01:04:12,724 --> 01:04:15,620 handing it directly to chepiga. 1085 01:04:15,655 --> 01:04:21,827 There were absolutely no doubt that this is an operation controlled by kremlin 1086 01:04:21,862 --> 01:04:23,620 through Russian military intelligence. 1087 01:04:25,793 --> 01:04:28,000 [Speaking Russian] 1088 01:04:55,551 --> 01:04:57,758 [Speaking Russian] 1089 01:05:01,689 --> 01:05:03,482 Perhaps the most extraordinary moment 1090 01:05:03,517 --> 01:05:05,931 in some ways in this case was 1091 01:05:05,965 --> 01:05:09,689 the interview the two Russian gru officers, 1092 01:05:09,724 --> 01:05:10,941 the military intelligence officers, 1093 01:05:10,965 --> 01:05:12,137 gave on Russia today. 1094 01:05:12,931 --> 01:05:14,758 [Speaking Russian] 1095 01:05:32,413 --> 01:05:33,965 I'm thinking it's dumb and dumber. 1096 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,458 I think... I... You know, I don't know 1097 01:05:35,482 --> 01:05:37,034 what the Russians were thinking. 1098 01:05:37,068 --> 01:05:38,862 I mean, they... yeah. 1099 01:05:38,896 --> 01:05:40,344 I'm hugely surprised. 1100 01:05:40,379 --> 01:05:41,793 They were... 1101 01:05:41,827 --> 01:05:44,310 Maybe this was part of their joke. 1102 01:05:44,344 --> 01:05:47,586 They thought that people in britain would fall for this. 1103 01:05:48,413 --> 01:05:50,517 [Speaking Russian] 1104 01:05:57,965 --> 01:06:02,103 It's not like James Bond style spies. 1105 01:06:02,137 --> 01:06:08,448 It's more like Johnny English kind of spy. 1106 01:06:08,482 --> 01:06:12,310 I think probably in some ways it was the moment at which the rest of the world 1107 01:06:12,344 --> 01:06:15,137 woke up to the Russian disinformation campaign 1108 01:06:15,172 --> 01:06:20,379 and realized that actually what we had been telling them 1109 01:06:20,413 --> 01:06:23,379 about this case and about these two individuals really was true. 1110 01:06:27,034 --> 01:06:29,251 [Dobrokhotov] But this actually was only the beginning of the story 1111 01:06:29,275 --> 01:06:34,379 because we didn't believe that two people is enough 1112 01:06:34,413 --> 01:06:36,034 for this kind of operation. 1113 01:06:36,068 --> 01:06:39,000 So there must be a team helping them. 1114 01:06:40,206 --> 01:06:41,413 We found a third guy. 1115 01:06:41,448 --> 01:06:43,517 His real name is denis sergeev. 1116 01:06:43,551 --> 01:06:46,448 His fake name is sergey fedotov. 1117 01:06:46,482 --> 01:06:50,896 We found seven other gru agents participated in the Salisbury poisoning. 1118 01:06:51,724 --> 01:06:54,172 We found a lot of other spies. 1119 01:06:54,206 --> 01:06:56,379 We found chain of command. 1120 01:06:56,413 --> 01:07:02,793 Now we know almost everything about this program of extrajudicial murders 1121 01:07:02,827 --> 01:07:05,068 by Russian killing squads. 1122 01:07:07,827 --> 01:07:10,413 So, the police investigation has now got evidence 1123 01:07:11,137 --> 01:07:13,241 to a criminal standard 1124 01:07:13,275 --> 01:07:16,000 of three people involved in the attack. 1125 01:07:17,689 --> 01:07:21,551 We shouldn't assume that that's where the investigation finishes, 1126 01:07:21,586 --> 01:07:26,275 and we shouldn't assume that there were only three people involved. 1127 01:07:26,310 --> 01:07:30,517 Russian military intelligence would often deploy more people than that 1128 01:07:30,551 --> 01:07:32,379 for overseas assassinations. 1129 01:07:36,344 --> 01:07:39,206 [Alexander yakovenko] I think this is 1942. 1130 01:07:39,241 --> 01:07:40,896 So there's a war... [Camera clicking] 1131 01:07:40,931 --> 01:07:42,862 [Charlie] We got invited, me and my brother, 1132 01:07:42,896 --> 01:07:45,137 to see the Russian ambassador in London. 1133 01:07:46,448 --> 01:07:49,034 And he seemed very pleasant, 1134 01:07:50,379 --> 01:07:51,965 friendly, 1135 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:57,448 but he was very much trying to pass the buck, 1136 01:07:57,482 --> 01:07:58,586 so to speak, 1137 01:07:58,620 --> 01:08:00,068 and it was all denial 1138 01:08:00,103 --> 01:08:01,241 all the way. 1139 01:08:01,275 --> 01:08:03,448 For us, this is the blessing from Russia. 1140 01:08:03,482 --> 01:08:08,137 I asked the ambassador if his country killed my girlfriend, 1141 01:08:09,310 --> 01:08:11,379 and he said, "no." 1142 01:08:17,586 --> 01:08:19,275 It's my flat. 1143 01:08:19,310 --> 01:08:21,931 It's the first flat that I've ever had. 1144 01:08:21,965 --> 01:08:23,827 They had to tear it down. 1145 01:08:24,965 --> 01:08:27,517 The perfume bottle that I had 1146 01:08:27,551 --> 01:08:30,034 could have wiped out thousands of people. 1147 01:08:31,724 --> 01:08:33,103 Thousands of people, 1148 01:08:33,137 --> 01:08:36,965 with the amount of nerve agent that was 1149 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:41,655 in the perfume bottle found in my flat. 1150 01:08:41,689 --> 01:08:45,413 What I was told was that they had discovered that there was nerve agent 1151 01:08:45,448 --> 01:08:47,379 in almost every room of our house, 1152 01:08:47,413 --> 01:08:50,241 including my youngest daughter's bedroom. 1153 01:08:50,275 --> 01:08:52,034 [Mills] Wedding rings, watches, 1154 01:08:52,068 --> 01:08:54,482 items from family members... 1155 01:08:54,517 --> 01:08:56,310 We had to say to Nick and his family, 1156 01:08:56,344 --> 01:08:59,241 "sorry, you can take a couple of possessions we can test, 1157 01:08:59,275 --> 01:09:02,724 but actually the rest we're gonna have to, with partners, destroy." 1158 01:09:02,758 --> 01:09:04,241 That was a horrible moment. 1159 01:09:04,275 --> 01:09:07,896 [Nick] You know, the children lost their toys, their books, 1160 01:09:07,931 --> 01:09:11,241 their clothes, school certificates... 1161 01:09:11,275 --> 01:09:14,275 They lost everything that meant something to them. 1162 01:09:14,310 --> 01:09:16,206 We lost everything that meant something to us. 1163 01:09:17,862 --> 01:09:19,206 We had to move house 1164 01:09:19,241 --> 01:09:21,172 and we did lose about all of our belongings, 1165 01:09:21,206 --> 01:09:24,862 but I'm incredibly lucky that that's all we lost. 1166 01:09:29,758 --> 01:09:32,034 [Dr. Haslam] The whole community was affected by this. 1167 01:09:32,068 --> 01:09:34,517 It was a traumatizing experience. 1168 01:09:34,551 --> 01:09:36,151 I still feel emotional thinking about it. 1169 01:09:36,724 --> 01:09:40,275 And I would say I was, um... 1170 01:09:40,310 --> 01:09:41,689 Drained 1171 01:09:41,724 --> 01:09:43,586 physically, emotionally, mentally 1172 01:09:43,620 --> 01:09:46,482 for probably six months after this. 1173 01:09:46,517 --> 01:09:48,793 It took a toll on all of us. 1174 01:09:50,655 --> 01:09:54,655 I suppose one of the really unanswered questions 1175 01:09:54,689 --> 01:09:57,275 about the Salisbury affair is, 1176 01:09:57,310 --> 01:10:00,068 you know, have we found all of the novichok? 1177 01:10:00,103 --> 01:10:02,827 Was there another delivery device? 1178 01:10:02,862 --> 01:10:08,517 I personally believe they probably had a second perfume dispenser 1179 01:10:08,551 --> 01:10:12,655 because, you know, they wanted to be sure that they'd do a good job. 1180 01:10:12,689 --> 01:10:17,689 I believe that it wasn't the same bottle that poisoned the skripals 1181 01:10:17,724 --> 01:10:19,896 for the simple reason the poison turned up 1182 01:10:19,931 --> 01:10:23,310 three months after the initial poisoning. 1183 01:10:24,034 --> 01:10:25,310 It was in a box, 1184 01:10:25,344 --> 01:10:28,931 a sealed box in a sealed package, 1185 01:10:28,965 --> 01:10:30,758 which I had to break open 1186 01:10:30,793 --> 01:10:36,206 and physically put two parts of the pump together 1187 01:10:36,241 --> 01:10:37,655 to make it work. 1188 01:10:40,482 --> 01:10:42,596 [Rebecca] I don't think we know everything that there is to know 1189 01:10:42,620 --> 01:10:44,827 about the nerve agent attack, 1190 01:10:46,241 --> 01:10:48,655 and part of me thinks we probably won't ever know 1191 01:10:48,689 --> 01:10:51,206 the full ins and outs of what happened. 1192 01:10:55,827 --> 01:11:00,931 [Nick] I retired from the police in October 2018. 1193 01:11:00,965 --> 01:11:05,241 I was medically pensioned through grounds of ill-health. 1194 01:11:05,275 --> 01:11:08,413 I was deemed not to be able to be capable of being a police officer anymore 1195 01:11:08,448 --> 01:11:09,793 under mental health reasons 1196 01:11:09,827 --> 01:11:11,655 and psychological reasons 1197 01:11:11,689 --> 01:11:13,241 because of the Salisbury poisonings. 1198 01:11:17,758 --> 01:11:20,000 [Charlie] I literally poisoned my girlfriend. 1199 01:11:20,551 --> 01:11:22,758 You know, unknowingly, 1200 01:11:22,793 --> 01:11:24,137 but I still did it. 1201 01:11:25,137 --> 01:11:26,379 Killed my girlfriend. 1202 01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:28,068 You know? 1203 01:11:28,103 --> 01:11:29,758 It's not a good... Thing to live with. 1204 01:11:30,931 --> 01:11:32,379 Mmm. 100730

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