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Tonight on Beyond Skinwalker Ranch.

We don't know if they were from interstellar space...

Or we don't know if they're from a different dimension.

We're basically saying here that these people were visited

or they experienced contact.

That's correct.

We're down to 19.

When they started up again?

Yep.

18.

What is happening, man?

16.

Dude.

What in the...

That's my favorite Travis reaction so far.

For years, scientists have

been working to reveal the secrets of Skinwalker Ranch.

But is it possible that the clues

to unlock the mystery are located

beyond the borders of this hub of high strangeness?

Wow.

Now, an ex-CIA agent and a veteran journalist

have been recruited by the Skinwalker team

to go on a high stakes mission across America.

Look at all this activity that's happening.

That's unbelievable.

That is right over our heads.

That's it, that's it right there!

The goal... uncover evidence that

may finally expose the truth.

How is this happening?

Now it's going to get interesting.

Look, it's moving!

Look at that!

This is just the beginning.

Well, Paul and Andy, it's great to have

you back at the table.

Now, I understand you guys have something

of a very different nature lined up this time,

something very special.

I think this is an interesting one.

This is sort of a different jumping off point for us

than usual.

This is not an area where there's necessarily been

a recent strange phenomenon.

It's more sort of a long history of it.

OK.

Right, we're interested in visiting this place called

Rock Art Ranch in Arizona.

I'm very familiar with Rock Art Ranch.

So then you know it has really one of the largest

sort of privately held petroglyph sites in the country

and maybe in the world.

Rock Art Ranch is a private cattle ranch in Northern

Arizona, where it's home to thousands

of ancient Native American petroglyphs.

The petroglyphs on the ranch are carvings on the rock

surface made by Indigenous people who lived in the area.

For these Native Americans, petroglyphs were a sacred form

of documentation used to communicate

details of their lives for over 13,000 years.

For the past five years, the team at Skinwalker

has been investigating the petroglyphs on their ranch.

What I'm looking at is these curves.

It's a metaphor for a serpent or a snake.

Snakes represents two different worlds.

So it's a guardian to the portals.

Veteran Navajo Ranger Jon

Dover also analyzed the petroglyphs

surrounding Skinwalker Ranch.

The spiral seems to be universal.

This spiral could refer to some kind of a portal.

This spiral symbol in the petroglyphs

is also seen in an ancient stone circle

on top of the Skinwalker mesa.

We have basically a spiral right here that's

been put into this ground here.

Now, Andy and Paul plan to join up with Jon Dover

to investigate Rock Art Ranch, one of the largest petroglyph

sites in the country, to dive much deeper

into the phenomena surrounding these ancient carvings.

So Jon Dover invited us out to the ranch

to conduct a fulsome investigation there and compare

the petroglyphs that exist there with the petroglyphs

that you've had here on Skinwalker Ranch

and see if we can't find some correlation with the phenomenon.

Think about whatever you're looking

at there, what it could be that it's trying to tell you.

It's probably not just a record.

It's probably a spot of interest.

You know, that reminds me of a Ute shaman

told us that the Indigenous people

around here used the cave systems as a portal system.

These places like this may be a doorway or a window

to somewhere else.

Now the possibility of something like a portal,

that really gets my attention.

I can't wait to see what you guys bring back.

All right.

This is definitely going to be worth your while.

- All right, we're excited. - All right, guys.

See you soon, gents. Good luck.

I'm so excited to be back in Northern Arizona,

on the edges of Navajo Nation.

Look at just how vast it is.

It feels like we're in the middle of nowhere.

Well, I mean, this speaks to exactly how preserved

this location must be.

I mean, there's no sign of civilization anywhere

near where we're going.

Yeah.

Ancient people habituated here.

I mean, they came here, they built a life here,

they left a history here.

And that's what we're here to explore.

What we know about this place is that it

has thousands of petroglyphs.

And as many as have been discovered,

there are maybe many more.

Yeah.

Compare that with Skinwalker, which has a few petroglyphs.

This place is potentially a wealth of information and energy

and stories and history that really we've never experienced.

The petroglyphs at Skinwalker Ranch

seem to suggest that there might be

some kind of interdimensional portal around that area.

So the question for us is really,

can we identify any of the same anomalous activity

here around the petroglyphs slides at this location?

This is exciting.

There's Jon.

Mr. Jon.

Always great to see him.

How's it going?

Good to see you again, man.

- Yeah, really good to see you. - Hey, Jon.

How are you, sir?

Doing great.

We've got some really interesting

things to show you today.

You've been able to actually research the petroglyphs

at Skinwalker Ranch.

What is it about these petroglyphs here

that you think are noteworthy?

Well, we're seeing the same symbols,

but on a much larger scale.

Skinwalker Ranch just has a few petroglyphs.

This place is just going to blow your mind.

Wow.

Jon, do you know, has there ever been any kind of investigation

out here?

I mean, aside from people just looking at them.

And you know, there's been a lot of sort of research

about petroglyphs and what they might mean.

But actual investigation and experiments performed out here.

There have been none.

So you're going to be the first guys to put instruments on this.

That's awesome.

This is a clean slate.

You know, it's uncharted territory for us

to be the first to do this. - Absolutely.

I'm excited to get out there.

Yeah.

Let's do it.

With Navajo Ranger Jon Dover leading the way,

the team heads out about three miles west to the canyons,

where over 3,000 well-preserved petroglyphs have been found.

Have the petroglyphs been dated?

What do we know about them?

We know that the people were here about 500 AD to about 1070,

and then they disappeared.

You really do feel like you're entering

some kind of sacred space.

This place is just astonishing.

Yeah.

Wow.

What a spot.

Look at all those.

My god.

And these are just...

just a few.

Are those carved in?

Those are carved in.

That's incredible.

There's animals.

There's humans.

There's sort of humanoids.

Some of the figures that you see up

here, if you count the fingers, some of them have three fingers.

Some of them have five.

And the accuracy when these things are made

is important to realize that they were recording

things that they actually saw.

And if they saw three-fingered beings,

that's what they recorded.

Is there an interpretation of what these three-fingered

people or creatures are?

They represent star people.

Star people?

So we're basically saying here that these people were visited

or they experienced contact...

That's correct.

With extraterrestrials.

That's really quite humbling.

Yeah this is not rock art.

They actually had a purpose for putting

this on the face of this rock and in the location that it is.

Now, I'd like to point out that the orb under that guy's arm

might not be an orb.

If you look at it closely, it looks like a spiral.

In Native culture, spirals always

are an indication of migration.

However, we've reinterpreted it to symbolize a portal.

- Wow. - Right.

A portal.

Right.

We believe that the ancients had the ability to manipulate

these dimensional gates.

They postulated that energy, frequency, vibration

were magical.

If you knew how to use them, you could do anything.

We knew that they had the ability

to utilize these things, these dimensional gates and portals.

I mean, these are things that we can potentially measure.

We should take some measurements.

Yeah.

In order to test for the presence of any

naturally occurring energy, frequency, or vibration

in the canyon, Andy and Paul will

take readings with their handheld instruments.

I'm cool.

I'm pulling out our trifield meter

right now to look at magnetic energy.

If we're taking electromagnetic readings anywhere else

in the United states, we expect to see somewhere

between 0.2 and 0.4 milligauss.

Sounds pretty quiet so far.

Very quiet.

Like, impossibly quiet.

Watch.

Wow.

We've never seen that.

So this is saying, Jon, that there

is no measurable electromagnetic field here.

0.0 milligauss.

Which is unusual in itself.

Absolutely.

Yeah, this is not normal.

If you're going to have a portal,

there must be intense energy at that site.

Energy and frequency and vibration.

Andy and Paul are with Navajo ranger Jon Dover,

studying the petroglyph covered walls within the canyon

at Rock Art Ranch.

Jon suggests that energy, frequency, and vibration are

needed for a portal to open.

So they're using a spectrum analyzer

to check for the presence of radio frequencies.

Let's take a look at the radio spectrum.

OK, great.

Look at that, Andy.

What'd you just find?

1.6.

1.609?

Yep, and it's been steady there.

1.6 gigahertz is a frequency that's

reserved for space to Earth and Earth to space communication.

And here we are seeing it next to petroglyphs that

are potentially showing a depiction

of interdimensional phenomenon.

When you're collecting this data on its own,

it looks kind of disparate and you

don't know how it all connects.

Until Jon tells us that there's three elements

tied to some sort of interdimensional portal activity

within Native American lore.

There's frequency, energy, and vibration.

And what we're seeing here with 1.6 gigahertz

is a clear, strong frequency.

I'm really curious to see what else this little canyon has

in store for us.

There's lots more.

Wow.

Look at that.

Look at those.

There are so many images here that are clearly humans.

But what are those?

Those huge creatures.

Huge creatures with... it looks like spikes or plates

on their back.

Right.

Honestly, I was thinking they look like dinosaurs.

That's the same thing that went through my mind.

And then associated right there with that spiral shape.

Many Native tribes have creation stories where

they came from somewhere else.

In the case of the Navajo, they came

through several different worlds that they describe.

A world of insects, a world of giants, a water world, you know.

When they talk about these, they say

that there was something that appeared in the sky, a hole

in the sky.

And they climbed through that.

You know, they're naturally occurring portals

that are just opening and closing whenever

they get enough energy.

What's to prevent other things from coming through?

So interesting thing.

I feel like we should see what we can measure at this location.

- Sure, let's do it. - Yeah.

I want to try the FLIR.

Just get a thermal read on this space.

Let's do it.

The FLIR T1030 is an exceptionally sensitive

high definition imaging camera that measures

the heat signatures of objects.

The hotter the object, the whiter it will appear.

What I'm thinking, Andy, is I'm

curious to see if there's any difference

between the glyphs themselves and the rest of the face.

Can you... can you aim right into that crevice right there?

Do you see the dark spot?

OK.

You see what I'm seeing?

The heat that's sort of trapped in that corner?

Why would there be...

Seems like it should be cold in there.

Yeah.

Here, let me come around where you are.

Yeah.

Yeah, look at that.

This is really interesting.

It's shaded from the top.

Yep.

Much warmer in there.

All the way up and down.

Yeah.

The carvings here right next to this heat signature

are the spirals that signify some kind of portal.

I mean, it's 64, 65 degrees there.

And the exposed face over here is much cooler.

The most shaded is the hottest.

This face has been in the shade all day.

Yeah.

It wouldn't surprise me if this was

an entry point of some kind.

It could be an entry point, if we knew how to open it.

We've got the portal correlating

very closely with some kind of energy anomaly.

You've got thermal energy.

There's absolutely thermal energy back there.

And when you layer that in with the fact

that we're seeing a very strong signal here at 1.6 gigahertz,

we have a giant energy anomaly here.

Is it unique or are there others like it?

We know there are other sites.

I think that's the question we've got to ask going forward.

Yeah.

Let's go collect some more data and find out.

Thanks, Jon.

After discovering strange energy and frequency

readings in the canyon, the next stop in their investigation

is a partially excavated sacred dwelling site

a couple miles away, where the ancient Native American

tribes lived.

What we're going to look at here

is a ruined site with some rune blocks in it

that has been professionally excavated by archaeologists.

They would have lived up here, but the canyon would have been

a source of water and it would have

been where they had different ceremonies and things going on.

I think the big question here is,

you know, these two sites are obviously

connected by the people and the time that they spent here.

We're curious about how they're connected energetically.

Well, there's definitely energy here.

Traditionally, in Navajo culture,

you do not go around these places.

Because the spirits of the dead are here.

Wow.

Look at this.

Wow.

Just instant time travel.

This is a window back in time.

Each room would have held a family.

This area, I can feel the energy all through my body.

Let's take some measurements here.

Andy and Paul use the radio spectrum analyzer to test

for the 1.6 gigahertz frequency that

was present at the petroglyphs.

Look at that.

1.609487.

That's the same signal that we were seeing in the canyon.

Yep.

What we've been able to do is confirm for sure

that in this location, we have two of the three elements

that you've been talking about.

We have energy.

We have thermal energy in the canyon.

We have frequency.

Right.

This really clear 1.6 gigahertz frequency.

So all that's missing is vibration.

If we can get the three elements together,

we have, I mean, the opportunity to potentially unlock

whatever the ancients saw here.

Yeah.

The third point of this triangle, this triad

of energies.

I think we need to bring in a traditional singing

group with a drum.

In 2023, a Native American drumming group

performed at Skinwalker Ranch, which

resulted in dramatic temperature changes,

focused on the stone circle.

The stone circle is lit up like a Christmas tree.

Which is thought to be a sacred place

for the ancient people and potentially a portal.

If this is the location for a portal, all we need to do

is find a way to tap into it.

The fact that we have this thermal energy, the radio

frequency, now the question is, can we somehow

tap into this vibrational question

here that Jon has been telling us about?

We're going to do a drum ceremony.

Who knows what could happen?

We could trigger our own thermal anomaly.

We could trigger our own orb.

Anything can happen out here.

This place is wide open for us.

Art, it is so good to have you back, man.

I know that we are in good hands with you

and Jon on the case with us again.

Thank you.

Thank you for having us.

We agreed to this so that we can help propel the scientific value

as well as the spiritual value that may

arise out of this experience.

For the first experiment,

Jon Dover has called upon Navajo musician Alex Adeki and medicine

man Art Hardy, who helped guide the team

last year at Navajo Nation.

Can you hear this, Andy?

Come here.

They're here.

I don't know how to process through the idea

that they are here.

I don't...

Shh.

(WHISPERS) Don't process, just listen.

The team will perform a traditional drum ceremony just

outside a sacred dwelling site at Rock Art Ranch.

Jon believes that a combination of energy, frequency, and

vibration can open up a portal.

And the team has found energy and frequency at the site.

So the plan is to add sound vibration into the environment

to test this theory.

So first and foremost, the vibrational frequencies

is actually a key part of what spirituality

is within the Native American community.

There is phenomenon that happens within the ceremonies.

We do see things.

We do hear things.

And I'm pretty sure a lot of the Native American community

can attest to that.

I couldn't think of a better way

to let you guys start setting up.

Great. Sounds good, Andy.

Thank you, Art.

Thank you, guys.

Given the thermal anomalies that resulted

from the blazing bear drum ceremony performed at Skinwalker

Ranch in 2023, Andy and Paul have

set up a FLIR thermal camera focused above the ceremony.

They've also set up two AI powered UFODAPs to capture

any activity above them.

This system of two cameras puts non-stop eyes on the sky

and can track objects to identify if it's captured

a plane, satellite, or star.

Or if it's locked on to an unknown aerial phenomenon.

I just got the chills.

Whoa.

That was interesting.

What was... that was fast.

Let me see if I can pull up that file real quick.

Right there.

You see it? - Do it again.

Yep. Flying across the screen.

You can see the wings flapping.

I think that's a bat.

Yeah.

OK.

Well, false positives.

Yep.

It's working.

Check this out, man.

The air temperature has been strange above them.

We were up above 33, 34.

We swung down to 28, 27.

Our target is 10 feet above their heads.

It's not the fire.

Look at this, Paul. Look at this.

- Whoa, whoa. - Look at that.

Dropped out of nowhere.

Yeah.

It went down as low as 24 degrees.

Something is happening.

23.

The music just stopped.

Look at this.

Look at this.

All they did was stop singing.

In the same area above.

That is so weird.

The music just ended.

I was going to say, it kind of went all over the place

when the music ended.

We've gone up five degrees since the music stopped.

On a cold night.

Just went up to 28.

Andy, Andy, we're down to 19.

When they started up again?

Yep.

18.

17.

What is happening, man?

16.

15.

Dude.

We just dropped another seven degrees.

Wow.

It went down seven degrees in...

like that.

And you can hear the difference in the voice, too.

Did they change singers?

They changed singers.

That's Art.

Is that Art now?

Wow.

Look, it's at 13.

We're actually seeing that the singer, the difference

in their intensity and the difference in their voice itself

is changing things.

It's like we hit a new threshold somehow.

Wow.

How interesting, man.

Look at that.

It's going back.

It just... soon as he stopped.

We've gone up in temperature since the music stopped.

That was a powerful hit.

Did you see that just there?

That's fast.

What is that, though?

You see that?

It's got a trail.

Look right there.

Did those look like two distinct balls of light in a row?

I'm going to pull up a clean file with no data on it.

OK.

I don't know what that is.

It also... did you see the movement?

I was going to say there's movement there.

That kind of movement and speed change.

Yeah, I don't I don't know what that is.

It changes velocity completely.

- Right there, too. - Yep.

I didn't even see that little curve.

I saw the one farther down, but it...

You see that?

Yeah.

It changes direction twice.

That's wild.

Yeah.

We just saw some kind of bird or flapping insect before.

It's neither of those.

Correct.

And it's not moving in a straight line.

I mean, it's a UAP.

Yeah.

It's a UAP.

And look where we are and think about what we just did.

This is exactly what Jon was talking about.

We're getting thermal anomalies.

We're getting UAP hits on the UFODAP.

During this ceremony where we brought in that one

missing piece, the vibration.

Two times now, they've stopped singing.

And in both instances, the ambient temperature went up.

- On a cold night. - Right

That's crazy.

Yeah, no.

Everything should just be cooling down.

There should be none of these fluctuations.

And to have it correlate twice.

Right.

What would make that temperature change?

What an awesome night.

I know we got some great data, but I'm still sort of,

you know, reverberating just from the moment itself.

It was absolutely impressive to see.

It was a privilege to be part of it all.

Not only did we see a change in thermal activity

based on the change in voice and the change in song,

but we also had multiple UAP sightings

over the course of the night.

Right.

Now, there was so much going on that we actually

didn't have the ability to capture

it all with our own two eyes.

So the production team actually went through and scrubbed

all of the footage to find the most significant anomalies

captured on the UFODAP.

Perfect.

Now, this was the one that we saw in real time.

No flapping activity.

It changes speed right there in the middle.

Right.

Yeah, now that one is different.

No question.

Different motion, different speed.

That accelerating curve.

Yep.

Yeah, exactly right.

And when you hear people talk about a cigar shape,

this is a cigar shape flying through the sky.

That's right.

Now here's a new one.

Whoa! - Whoa.

Whoa. - Did you see that?

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, it just changed direction right there.

Look at how intense that color is, too.

But what's even more intense is the change of direction.

That turn at that velocity is just unimaginable.

It's more than a 90 degree turn.

Yeah. It turns back on itself.

120 degree turn.

Yeah.

That's truly strange.

I don't know what that thing is.

There's no pilot on Earth that could handle a turn like that.

Whatever that is, that's an object that somehow seems

to just slice through the air.

Right.

And the question again is, is this all

connected to the ritual?

Would we have observed them otherwise?

We did the ceremony at the settlement, right.

I want to know what effect that might have in the canyon.

That's where the petroglyphs, you know,

record the experiences of these people.

What they witnessed, experienced, and maybe brought

into being in that space.

And then there seems to be potentially

some kind of correlation between the walls that have these energy

seams and that swirling petroglyph

that might indicate a portal.

Yeah, I think we should have Art do a ceremony in the canyon

if he's willing.

Jon talks about feeling an energy in that canyon.

I mean, I can't help but wonder if we're

on the verge of potentially opening a Pandora's box.

Now that they've documented thermal anomalies

and UAP sightings during the drum ceremony

outside the ancient dwelling site,

Andy and Paul had backed down into the canyon with Jon and Art

to see if the ceremony around the petroglyph

covered walls will produce similar results.

Art will perform an ancient medicine man

ceremony, where he will invoke sacred prayers

designed to open a portal.

We definitely can feel the heaviness

within the canyon, and as far as what may have happened

here with the ancestors.

This corner is just filled with...

look, there's the spiral that we've seen so many times.

And here, too.

I mean, the spirals are everywhere...

Portal or vortex.

The spirals are everywhere in this section.

I mean, look, there's multiple of them up here.

There's etchings here.

And they're old, Paul.

Look how faded they are.

I mean, what an incredible place to set

up this experiment for tonight.

What I'm going to be doing is I'm

actually praying to our gods.

The terminology that comes with it is very sacred.

A lot of that's given from medicine man to medicine man.

So unfortunately, I can't let those names be on camera.

It's very sensitive in nature.

It's very sensitive to the Native American community,

my family, et cetera.

So in that sense, I'd rather you just see and just

capture anything with your equipment that you can

while I'm performing this ceremony.

OK.

So but we want to make sure, you don't want

us to record any audio of you.

Correct.

And that's only for a short period of time.

OK.

And after that, we can resume.

So my understanding, this is correct,

that yesterday's experiments with the drum

and the song, that was putting out

vibration into the environment.

Correct.

Whereas today, the ceremony that you're

going to be executing, essentially you

become the center point of concentration.

Am I understanding that correctly?

Yeah, no, you're right on point with that, Andy.

We want to concentrate all of the energy.

We want to bring that here as much as we can, anyway.

Let's get started. - Yeah.

OK.

All right.

So we've got recording on this FLIR, recording on this FLIR.

UFODAPs are live.

Satellite tracker is live, and our spectrum analyzer is live.

OK.

(WHISPERS) Andy, right off the bat.

Look at all that.

Holy smokes.

Look at this.

The whole seam.

Dude, that's just like the other areas in the canyon.

While Navajo medicine man Art Hardy performs

an ancient ceremony designed to open a portal,

Andy and Paul are once again seeing

abnormally hot seams in the crevices of the petroglyph

covered walls.

I mean, that's...

it's 10 o'clock at night, Paul.

Yeah.

How is this happening?

There's heat from within these.

We have another section of the canyon where there's

this strong heat signature in the seam,

and the actual petroglyphs around it

are those spiraling etchings that we're

coming to wonder if they have some connection

to interdimensional portals.

That maybe by itself isn't enough.

But when combined, when focused with some sort of catalyst,

who knows what's possible?

That was interesting, too.

That was a quick one.

Let's see what that was.

Seemed to be in the upper left corner.

Right there. You see it?

I don't see a wing motion.

I don't see a flapping.

I don't know what that is.

It looks like it comes out of nowhere, Paul.

Watch.

We've got a solid two seconds of empty space.

And then watch right around here.

OK.

See how it just seems to appear?

Yeah.

Some strange movement.

You know what else is interesting?

Is this UFODAP hit coincided with when Art blew the recorder.

Maybe with the end of that part of the ceremony.

Right.

Hey, guys.

We just had an experience over here.

Just now?

Just now.

I heard voices down from the canyon over here, down further.

I could sense that there's something here.

What were you guys hearing?

Continuous but intermittent sounds.

Like rocks hitting the ground behind the brush.

Like something moving?

Something large.

Yeah.

Like disturbing the rocks.

Right.

I didn't hear anything like that.

So whatever you heard was somehow very localized.

Yeah.

That's really wild.

OK, so first of all...

That was interesting.

Does it slow down and speed up?

Yeah, that was...

That's weird.

Here's the frame by frame.

It's similar to what we saw up at the settlement site.

And it also has the change in direction

and the change in speed.

The acceleration.

It looks like a roller coaster.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Nothing on the FAA tracker.

I mean, Paul, that's a UAP.

That's absolutely unidentified.

Yeah.

Look at that.

Changing direction.

Did that change direction on us?

Wow.

Completely different direction than previously.

Something's going on here.

So we have one UFODAP that's up on the cliff edge,

and then we have one that's here.

And this is the one that's down here in the valley with us.

So all these hits that we've been

seeing of whatever this is...

Are right here.

This is down in the canyon.

This isn't at altitude.

It is fascinating to me, Paul, that the multiple

sightings that we've seen of this tonight.

But they've been happening multiple times

since the four of us have been standing here at base camp.

Whatever the phenomenon is right now,

it does seem to be hovering around Art.

In my ceremony, that's what I requested.

Was like, show yourself.

Goes back to what I just said.

You know, sometimes we manifest things.

And then if you're looking for evidence, Andy,

I present it to you, sir.

This was a fantastic night.

Absolutely a success on multiple fronts.

And what I want to know is if the Skinwalker team can analyze

this data in any way that we can't to find

any semblance of causation.

Thank you so much.

Thanks, guys.

Well, gentlemen, welcome back to the ranch.

I understand you're fresh off of a very different

kind of investigation.

I'm so anxious to learn what you learned at Rock Art Ranch.

I was blown away by this place.

I mean, this was an absolute joy of an investigation.

It was everything you promised it would be and more.

I mean, being able to see these petroglyphs up close inches away

from your face.

I can still feel it now.

The sense of awe.

And our data was difficult to make sense of, frankly.

While we were in this corner, the spiral

portal symbols on the wall, the types of petroglyphs that were

on this wall, Jon was speculating to us

that this might be a portal.

Yeah, this is weird, these results.

I still don't know what to make of it.

Can you... can you aim right into that crevice right there?

You see the dark spot?

OK.

Do you see what I'm seeing?

The heat that's sort of trapped in that corner.

Why would there be...

seems like it should be cold in there.

Yeah.

The deeper into the corner you look, the hotter it got.

- That's not intuitive at all. - No, it doesn't make sense.

- Does that make sense to you? - No.

What direction is that facing?

Where is heat?

I want to say south.

So sunlight never was directly pointing right down the crevice.

Not there.

But those portal designs seem to be clustered in these areas.

You can see you've got our wheels turning over

here on this side of the table.

But that is...

it's really fantastic, though.

And the anthropologists told us there are ceremonial places,

where their magic portals were and things like that, they let

Mother Nature tell them where it was instead of them picking

the place or building it.

This could really play in an interesting way.

Absolutely could.

So after seeing the canyon where the actual petroglyphs

were, our next objective was to get a sense

of where these people lived.

And Jon took us to some incredibly well preserved

remnants of their dwellings.

So Jon arranged to have a Native American drum

and singing group join us for deep prayer

based ceremonial song.

I like that.

Perfect.

Andy, Andy, we're down to 19.

When they started up again?

Yep.

18.

17.

What is happening, man?

16.

Wow, look at that.

15.

Dude.

Wow, temperature's really dropping.

Really dropping.

We dropped seven degrees in just a few minutes.

And then we made another observation.

So the ceremony, the singing just stopped.

Look at that.

We've gone up in temperature since the music stopped.

That's absolutely repeatable.

We have seen that.

I can't explain it.

We measured it with Blazing Bear.

We've measured it with the rabbi.

I don't understand it, but it is a real phenomenon.

We obviously had the UFODAP running at the same time

as the experiment. - I was going to ask about that.

Yep. Yeah,

There we go.

I was watching in that direction,

seeing if I could see anything.

I didn't find anything yet.

There was something.

Looked like...

A meteorite maybe.

A meteor,

Except as this...

Did it change its course?

Yeah.

- Look, look at that. - Wait.

What?

What just happened there?

It sort of surfs.

Direction and altitude.

Let me it to you at full speed. - Wait.

What time of year? It was cold.

There's no bugs flying at 20 degrees.

Very cold.

What, what?

What did I just see here?

Let me show it to you again.

What in the...

Yeah.

That's my favorite Travis reaction so far.

I mean, we... we're obviously amused at our own confusion.

And confused with our own amusement.

Yes.

I would agree with that as well, I think.

So, here we have another UFODAP hit that we're

not quite sure what to make of.

So first, you see the boxes keying in on something

in the upper right-hand side.

But then you see this.

What the... what?

What is that?

Where does it end up?

Where does that thing go to?

It disappears in the center of the screen.

Look, if it's out there and it comes in and does that,

the g-forces on that would be ridiculous.

That's strange, isn't it?

- It's strange. - OK.

This is definitely a piece of footage that

warrants some post-processing.

I'd like to get this raw footage.

And further investigation.

Absolutely.

But wait...

There's more.

When we showed Art the same UFODAP footage that you

just saw, that was when he came up with the idea of taking

and replicating this similar experiment

inside the canyon itself.

Now, here's where we could start recording what Art was doing...

Following specifically the whistle that Art used

at the end of the ceremony.

There.

And then you heard that right away.

That was the UFODAP hit.

Are you kidding?

Did it do that?

It did the same thing again.

- What did we just... - Look at that.

- It's doing the same thing. - The other day...

And it's vanishing.

And it goes the other way.

There's an abrupt change there.

Satellites don't make moves like that.

Here's the big reveal about this one.

We had two UFODAPs looking at the same patch of sky.

Excellent.

But with about 60 feet difference in altitude.

This is from the DAP inside the canyon.

All right.

So show us the other one.

The other one didn't...

The other one didn't get it.

So...

Whatever this is, it's below the rim of the canyon.

How?

Are you sure there wasn't any obstruction

above the UFODAP in the bottom?

There's nothing above us.

I mean, there's some low, sort of,

brushy trees along the edges, but not where we set up.

We couldn't explain it.

And from the data that we were collecting, it was close to us.

The most reassuring thing actually

was sort of Art's sort of calm demeanor like, well,

yeah, what did you expect?

This is what we're here to do.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's a perception that it's going

to be a nuts and bolts spacecraft with little aliens

in it in spacesuits.

And so who's to say that it's not something more

akin to an orb that travels.

So are they telling us something with these petroglyphs about

what is capable in these locations?

Were they depicting the story of traveling through a portal using

energy frequency and vibration, the intermingling

of all the things vibrating together.

Right.

Jon Dover said the same thing about energy,

frequency, and vibration.

It's the idea of cause and effect.

We do this, we get this outcome.

And that seems to be the story that we're reading out

of those petroglyph records.

I'm determined to be caught red handed in the act of learning.

And I feel like this might be one of those moments.

I'm with you.

- For sure. - Fantastic

Thank you.

Thank you, guys.

Thanks, guys.

Believe anything you just saw?

I don't know what I just saw.

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