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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:19,350 --> 00:00:22,430 -Hi. Nice to meet you. -Hi, Lauren. Nice to meet you. 2 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,480 Thank you so much for speaking to me 3 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,480 because we found you through the restraining order that you filed, 4 00:00:29,570 --> 00:00:33,360 so I'm, like, really curious, like, what was your relationship to Chris? 5 00:00:33,990 --> 00:00:37,620 So, I was in a romantic relationship with him, and I was defrauded. 6 00:00:37,700 --> 00:00:38,530 Yeah. 7 00:00:39,700 --> 00:00:45,250 I've had some bad relationships before, but nothing to this magnitude. 8 00:00:46,210 --> 00:00:52,380 By the end of it, I was terrified because I have no idea who this person was. 9 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,470 So how did you guys meet? 10 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,810 We connected on Instagram. So that's kind of where it all started. 11 00:01:03,890 --> 00:01:06,230 -Did he reach out on Instagram or did it-- -Yes. Yeah. 12 00:01:06,310 --> 00:01:10,190 He had a lot of pictures of him just being very active, 13 00:01:10,270 --> 00:01:15,150 and I probably talked to him maybe two, three months on Instagram. 14 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,030 He said he was an ex-baseball player for the LA Dodgers. 15 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:20,490 And I was very impressed with that. 16 00:01:20,580 --> 00:01:23,120 So after two or three months of just chatting, 17 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,790 he actually came to visit me, 18 00:01:24,870 --> 00:01:27,460 because he lived in California, and I lived in Arizona. 19 00:01:29,330 --> 00:01:32,880 The first time I saw him, I remember thinking he was really tall, 20 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:36,170 he was really in shape, and he dressed well. 21 00:01:36,260 --> 00:01:41,850 And he just had this charisma about him where he just carried himself really well. 22 00:01:43,260 --> 00:01:46,730 We spent the whole weekend together, and it was great. 23 00:01:46,810 --> 00:01:49,520 It was exactly who I was texting and talking to. 24 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:50,650 He was attentive. 25 00:01:51,860 --> 00:01:55,070 He opened the car door for me, opened the restaurant door for me. 26 00:01:55,780 --> 00:02:00,160 Just the Southern gentleman that I really saw myself settling down with. 27 00:02:01,570 --> 00:02:05,910 After that first trip, he texted me and asked me to be his girlfriend. 28 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,580 At the time, I thought that was just really romantic and sweet. 29 00:02:09,670 --> 00:02:13,210 I said, "Let's give this a try. Why not? What's the worst that could happen?" 30 00:02:16,380 --> 00:02:21,470 I just immediately just felt like he was somebody I had been looking for. 31 00:02:21,550 --> 00:02:25,430 Like, he was just so charismatic, and persuasive, and intelligent. 32 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,390 Over the course of three months, he came to visit me four or five times. 33 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,560 -Oh, wow! -Yeah, so he was very persistent. 34 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,400 I was quite impressed by him. 35 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,660 He had several years of being a professional baseball player. 36 00:02:42,990 --> 00:02:44,700 We had a deep friendship. 37 00:02:44,780 --> 00:02:47,120 I felt like I had known him for years. 38 00:02:48,580 --> 00:02:50,830 I definitely felt very happy. 39 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,340 But the honeymoon stage didn't last very long. 40 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,720 One day, when he came to visit me, 41 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,260 he was complaining about his accounts being frozen. 42 00:03:04,850 --> 00:03:06,600 It was frozen due to fraud. 43 00:03:07,770 --> 00:03:09,930 I've had fraud happen several times in my life, 44 00:03:10,020 --> 00:03:14,020 and I've had cards freeze randomly and didn't think anything of it. 45 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,570 He would go on and on and complain, "I don't know what I'm going to do." 46 00:03:18,650 --> 00:03:20,650 "I've never been in this position." 47 00:03:20,740 --> 00:03:25,200 "And my rent is past due because of this account-freezing issue." 48 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,210 I lent him money. 49 00:03:30,290 --> 00:03:35,130 It was little by little, $800 here, $1,200 there. 50 00:03:37,250 --> 00:03:41,550 At the time, I just thought it was just a great guy that was down on his luck, 51 00:03:41,630 --> 00:03:43,300 that was having issues. 52 00:03:43,380 --> 00:03:47,060 I said, "Once your accounts are unfrozen, are you able to pay me everything?" 53 00:03:47,140 --> 00:03:49,390 And he said, "It's not a big deal." 54 00:03:49,470 --> 00:03:53,100 "I have $160,000 in an account back home 55 00:03:53,190 --> 00:03:56,190 for a sign-on bonus from when I was an LA Dodger." 56 00:03:56,770 --> 00:04:00,240 "Once I get that, I'll just transfer it to your bank." 57 00:04:02,530 --> 00:04:05,950 Eventually, you know, two months in, I sat there and I started adding it up. 58 00:04:06,030 --> 00:04:07,580 -Yeah. -And I'm like, okay. 59 00:04:07,660 --> 00:04:10,040 I-- This is not a normal thing. 60 00:04:10,750 --> 00:04:13,250 And I started pressing him for, like, a timeline. 61 00:04:13,330 --> 00:04:15,830 -To give me some type of answer. -Yeah. 62 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,500 And it was always defensive, it was always excuses. 63 00:04:23,420 --> 00:04:26,550 One day, I was in town in LA. 64 00:04:27,470 --> 00:04:30,180 I figured, why don't I just go say hi? 65 00:04:33,100 --> 00:04:36,060 The area was unsafe, like, car alarms going on. 66 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,780 I walked up to his apartment, and he had several deadbolts, 67 00:04:40,860 --> 00:04:43,110 which I feel like it's not standard. 68 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:48,660 He opened the door, immediately walked in, 69 00:04:48,740 --> 00:04:51,330 dead bolted the door, looked around. 70 00:04:51,410 --> 00:04:54,160 My stomach was turning. It was just like, there's something wrong. 71 00:04:55,460 --> 00:04:59,170 I started kind of asking him about that, and his responses were just, 72 00:04:59,250 --> 00:05:01,090 "Oh, I'm always traveling." 73 00:05:01,170 --> 00:05:03,590 He asked me to spend the night, I refused. 74 00:05:04,670 --> 00:05:07,010 Who is this person that I'm dating? 75 00:05:07,090 --> 00:05:10,260 If he's so successful, then it's not adding up. 76 00:05:12,810 --> 00:05:14,520 And I'm starting to panic. 77 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,650 The next thing I know, my card was maxed out. 78 00:05:24,490 --> 00:05:26,490 I called the bank immediately. 79 00:05:27,660 --> 00:05:31,950 I found out that Chris had taken tens of thousands of dollars. 80 00:05:34,540 --> 00:05:35,870 When he would come and visit, 81 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,170 I believe he was using my laptop when I wasn't around, 82 00:05:39,250 --> 00:05:44,460 and he was logging on to my online banking and requesting cash advances. 83 00:05:44,550 --> 00:05:47,550 And as soon as the cash advances were available in my account, 84 00:05:47,630 --> 00:05:49,970 he was transferring them to his account. 85 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,060 I started getting extremely angry with him 86 00:05:55,140 --> 00:06:00,400 and started asking him a lot of questions, and that's when he lost it. 87 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,940 That's when Chris started becoming extremely irate and angry with me. 88 00:06:06,070 --> 00:06:09,780 He started threatening me. He said, "I know where you live, where you work." 89 00:06:09,860 --> 00:06:12,870 "Things will be so bad for you. They'll be so terrible." 90 00:06:12,950 --> 00:06:14,160 -Yeah, I know. -What? 91 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:15,660 I know, it's wild. 92 00:06:15,750 --> 00:06:18,250 It escalated in a very short period of time. 93 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,630 Chris was not who I thought he was. 94 00:06:21,710 --> 00:06:24,590 He was not the person that I was falling in love with. 95 00:06:27,420 --> 00:06:30,260 He kept saying, "Things are going to be so bad for you." 96 00:06:31,510 --> 00:06:33,180 He was threatening my livelihood. 97 00:06:33,850 --> 00:06:35,310 He knew where I lived. 98 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,850 I moved out of my apartment because I was terrified. 99 00:06:39,940 --> 00:06:41,600 At one point, I actually switched cars 100 00:06:41,690 --> 00:06:44,650 because I didn't know what he was capable of. 101 00:06:45,650 --> 00:06:51,200 Chris went from the Southern gentleman to someone that was terrorizing me, 102 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:55,540 that was so scary to the point of me having to get a restraining order. 103 00:06:56,410 --> 00:07:00,830 I felt like he would definitely try to hurt me, absolutely. 104 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,500 It's horrendous. 105 00:07:05,590 --> 00:07:07,380 How much money was it? 106 00:07:07,460 --> 00:07:09,590 I believe over $50,000. 107 00:07:09,670 --> 00:07:11,430 -A lot of money. -Yeah. 108 00:07:11,510 --> 00:07:13,180 So after the restraining order, 109 00:07:13,260 --> 00:07:16,390 did you ever go to the police regarding the money that he took? 110 00:07:16,470 --> 00:07:18,220 -Yes. -What did they tell you? 111 00:07:18,810 --> 00:07:22,520 I've contacted several different police agencies. 112 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,980 I did a police report trying to explain everything that happened, 113 00:07:26,070 --> 00:07:28,650 and they just really dismissed my whole story. 114 00:07:28,730 --> 00:07:31,650 I tried for a very long time, and I just gave up. 115 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,490 Would you be willing to give a statement? 116 00:07:34,570 --> 00:07:35,410 Yes. 117 00:07:37,370 --> 00:07:40,290 The impact that he's had on my life, 118 00:07:40,370 --> 00:07:42,870 it's been one of the most, if not the most, 119 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,210 traumatic experiences that I've ever had. 120 00:07:46,250 --> 00:07:50,130 I still have PTSD sometimes when I see people that look like him. 121 00:07:50,210 --> 00:07:51,090 I kind of flinch. 122 00:07:51,170 --> 00:07:56,930 It's just… something that will probably be with me my entire life. 123 00:07:57,010 --> 00:08:00,560 I just hope he's prosecuted and I hope someone does something about it. 124 00:08:03,270 --> 00:08:05,400 After what Chris did to me, 125 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,230 I was feeling, like, really helpless with my life. 126 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,950 That's when I, like, started… 127 00:08:14,950 --> 00:08:17,530 really thinking about, like, what I was gonna do. 128 00:08:21,580 --> 00:08:24,790 Like, if I hurt myself… 129 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,590 maybe that would just be easier. 130 00:08:32,300 --> 00:08:33,800 I'm such a strong person. 131 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,340 I've gone through so much in my life that, like, 132 00:08:36,930 --> 00:08:39,430 never did I ever think about, like, giving up. 133 00:09:24,850 --> 00:09:29,190 -Hi. Jim? Hi. Nice to meet you. -Hey. Yeah. How you doing? 134 00:09:29,270 --> 00:09:31,110 -Just sit over here? -Absolutely. 135 00:09:31,190 --> 00:09:32,860 Thank you for talking to me, 136 00:09:32,940 --> 00:09:35,900 'cause we have been looking into Chris Lloyd. 137 00:09:36,570 --> 00:09:39,410 And I've heard that you might have known him back in the day. 138 00:09:39,490 --> 00:09:42,290 Chris and I met in June of 2012. 139 00:09:42,370 --> 00:09:43,200 Okay. 140 00:09:43,290 --> 00:09:45,910 Um, we were playing for a team in Canada, 141 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,540 the London Rippers, 142 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,130 and, uh, Chris and I were teammates for a month and a half, almost two months. 143 00:09:51,210 --> 00:09:55,800 He was an outstanding, I mean, outstanding athlete on the baseball field. 144 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,050 Very charming to be around. 145 00:09:58,130 --> 00:10:00,930 Yeah, I've seen videos of him. He looks good. 146 00:10:02,100 --> 00:10:04,970 The London Rippers is an independent baseball team. 147 00:10:05,850 --> 00:10:08,600 The lowest rung from Major League Baseball, let's just say that. 148 00:10:08,690 --> 00:10:13,650 He says that he played then for the Dodgers in the Major League. 149 00:10:13,730 --> 00:10:16,490 -Do you know anything about that? -That's not true. 150 00:10:16,570 --> 00:10:19,070 -Whoa. -He played probably 20 games with us. 151 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,620 -Thirteen at bats. -Mm. 152 00:10:20,700 --> 00:10:22,490 And that's the only experience 153 00:10:22,580 --> 00:10:25,540 that I've known him to have in professional baseball. 154 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,960 I'm always, you know, looking at old teammates, 155 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,330 trying to figure out what they're doing for work. 156 00:10:31,420 --> 00:10:34,380 I only know maybe five or six guys that made it to the big leagues. 157 00:10:34,460 --> 00:10:36,300 -Out of all the years that I played. -Whoa. 158 00:10:36,380 --> 00:10:40,720 Chris has been accused of defrauding two women out of more than $100,000. 159 00:10:41,390 --> 00:10:43,510 You know, it's actually baffling to me. 160 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,560 From what I can remember, he was just a very likable guy. 161 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,730 But baseball guys in general, there's a big ego about them. 162 00:10:50,810 --> 00:10:53,860 They all have the same goal, right? To make it to the big leagues. 163 00:10:53,940 --> 00:10:57,940 All that sacrifice for 20-something years, and then not reaching the ultimate goal, 164 00:10:58,030 --> 00:11:00,320 it's pretty… pretty detrimental for somebody. 165 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:04,870 We have proven that 166 00:11:04,950 --> 00:11:07,750 he never played for any major league baseball. 167 00:11:07,830 --> 00:11:09,460 He never played for the Dodgers. 168 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:13,630 And maybe that's why he was targeting women outside of LA. 169 00:11:16,500 --> 00:11:19,590 Even though you felt you failed in life 170 00:11:19,670 --> 00:11:22,590 and you didn't get the life that you feel like you deserve, 171 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:24,930 it's not okay to destroy other people's lives. 172 00:11:25,510 --> 00:11:29,140 Even for Jim, he thought that Chris was just a friendly guy. 173 00:11:29,230 --> 00:11:31,270 But this is how they are. 174 00:11:31,350 --> 00:11:34,650 These fraudsters, they are likable people. 175 00:11:34,730 --> 00:11:36,440 That's why they're dangerous. 176 00:11:47,660 --> 00:11:51,290 We know Chris lied about being a major league baseball player. 177 00:11:52,830 --> 00:11:55,790 But the way he got money from Lindsay was through investments. 178 00:11:58,590 --> 00:12:00,300 First, I need to establish 179 00:12:00,380 --> 00:12:02,970 whether Chris Lloyd is a licensed investment broker 180 00:12:03,050 --> 00:12:04,430 in the state of California. 181 00:12:05,590 --> 00:12:11,770 If he is, he should be listed in the FINRA regulatory agency search. 182 00:12:11,850 --> 00:12:13,520 Let's see if he is. 183 00:12:14,270 --> 00:12:16,520 He knew tons about banking, 184 00:12:16,610 --> 00:12:22,240 money, credit, loans, just all sorts of financial knowledge. 185 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,410 Made me feel safe in the investment. 186 00:12:26,410 --> 00:12:27,580 No results. 187 00:12:29,620 --> 00:12:32,000 But maybe he was working independently. 188 00:12:34,210 --> 00:12:36,250 Chris told Lindsay 189 00:12:36,330 --> 00:12:40,710 that he had investment opportunities for her through Planet 13. 190 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,260 They're an established company, 191 00:12:45,340 --> 00:12:48,050 one of the biggest weed dispensaries in the US. 192 00:12:50,180 --> 00:12:54,690 But he told Lindsay her check would be sent from Landmark Associates. 193 00:12:54,770 --> 00:12:57,150 So that's who we need to look into. 194 00:12:57,230 --> 00:13:01,610 When he was supposed to pay me, I asked, "Where's this check coming from?" 195 00:13:01,690 --> 00:13:03,940 And he said, "Landmark Associates." 196 00:13:04,030 --> 00:13:06,200 All right, so let's call Landmark. 197 00:13:08,870 --> 00:13:11,620 No one's available to take my call. 198 00:13:11,700 --> 00:13:14,000 I couldn't find an email address on their website. 199 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,710 That doesn't sound right. 200 00:13:15,790 --> 00:13:17,920 I'll definitely have to dig a bit deeper with this. 201 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,540 This is not making sense. 202 00:13:25,970 --> 00:13:28,220 Oh, this is interesting. 203 00:13:31,350 --> 00:13:34,310 A civil lawsuit filed by a female plaintiff 204 00:13:34,390 --> 00:13:38,400 against both Chris Lloyd and the Landmark Associates. 205 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,900 The allegation? Fraud. 206 00:13:46,030 --> 00:13:50,490 Hey, Cee, I found a civil suit of a woman suing Chris for fraud. 207 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,500 She doesn't wanna be identified, but her lawyer has agreed to meet with me. 208 00:13:55,580 --> 00:13:56,410 Scott? 209 00:13:56,500 --> 00:13:58,750 -Hi, Brianne Joseph, private investigator. -Scott. 210 00:13:58,830 --> 00:13:59,830 Nice to meet you. 211 00:14:01,710 --> 00:14:05,210 My partner, Cecilie, and I are investigating Christopher Lloyd, 212 00:14:05,300 --> 00:14:08,340 and, um, I understand you have a court case open with him. 213 00:14:08,430 --> 00:14:09,840 Absolutely correct. 214 00:14:09,930 --> 00:14:12,680 So my client knew Christopher Lloyd. 215 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,770 -I believe they met on a dating website. -Okay. 216 00:14:15,850 --> 00:14:18,440 He represented that he was a broker. 217 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,690 He could take money, invest it, and give high returns 218 00:14:21,770 --> 00:14:25,820 at a business organization he called Landmark Associates. 219 00:14:25,900 --> 00:14:27,030 Yeah. Yeah. 220 00:14:27,110 --> 00:14:28,650 It's funny you mention Landmark 221 00:14:28,740 --> 00:14:31,200 because I've been trying to get in touch with Landmark. 222 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,160 Do you think it's a legitimate company? Are they closed? Open? 223 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,540 What do you know about Landmark? 224 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,040 Christopher Lloyd is a bad person in so many ways. 225 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,080 -Yeah. -But he can be clever, right? 226 00:14:42,170 --> 00:14:43,750 You can google Landmark Associates 227 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:48,130 and probably find a "Landmark Associates" business 228 00:14:48,220 --> 00:14:49,720 in any state. 229 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,050 I looked at the Landmark Associates 230 00:14:53,550 --> 00:14:57,100 at the address that he said there was a Landmark Associates, 231 00:14:57,180 --> 00:14:59,180 and there just simply wasn't one there. 232 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,940 My client gave to Christopher about $50,000 to $60,000 233 00:15:05,020 --> 00:15:07,900 with the expectation that he would return some of that money… 234 00:15:07,990 --> 00:15:10,320 -…with interest as an investment. -Yeah. 235 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,910 But when he could not pay my client back, 236 00:15:14,990 --> 00:15:18,290 he would say, "Your Venmo is not working." 237 00:15:18,370 --> 00:15:20,250 "Your PayPal is not working." 238 00:15:20,330 --> 00:15:21,330 -So… -Okay. 239 00:15:21,420 --> 00:15:24,460 Before I thought to reach out to Christopher, 240 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,920 I wanted to get all the background I could on him before making initial contact. 241 00:15:29,010 --> 00:15:30,260 Of course, yeah. 242 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:35,890 I sent subpoenas to Zelle, Venmo, and PayPal. 243 00:15:35,970 --> 00:15:38,720 What'd you learn from that information? 244 00:15:38,810 --> 00:15:40,980 Between Zelle, Venmo, and PayPal, 245 00:15:41,060 --> 00:15:47,230 he had received $300,000 just in one year from multiple female victims. 246 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,150 That's insane. 247 00:15:50,070 --> 00:15:50,900 Yeah. 248 00:15:50,990 --> 00:15:54,870 If we can talk to these victims and perhaps get statements from them, 249 00:15:54,950 --> 00:15:58,410 that just makes our ability to present these cases that much stronger. 250 00:15:58,490 --> 00:16:01,330 Hopefully we can give him some real consequences. 251 00:16:01,410 --> 00:16:03,290 Okay. Thank you so much. 252 00:16:03,370 --> 00:16:05,170 Of course. I hope you get him. 253 00:16:05,250 --> 00:16:06,250 Thank you. 254 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,380 Hey, Cecilie. 255 00:16:10,420 --> 00:16:15,050 Guess how much he has taken from multiple women thus far. 256 00:16:15,140 --> 00:16:20,980 Around $300,000 within a year span, approximately. 257 00:16:21,060 --> 00:16:22,730 This is horrendous. 258 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,650 Can you imagine how much money in total this man has taken so far? 259 00:16:28,730 --> 00:16:32,440 We need to see if we can contact these women and get their statements. 260 00:16:38,490 --> 00:16:40,700 -Hi, Rhiannon. -Oh, hi there. 261 00:16:40,790 --> 00:16:43,120 -Hi, Robin. -Hello. 262 00:16:43,210 --> 00:16:45,710 I'm investigating Chris Lloyd. 263 00:16:46,460 --> 00:16:49,710 I met Chris on an online dating app. 264 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,720 And he was easy to talk to, and he used to play sports. 265 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,550 Like, very smart. 266 00:16:55,630 --> 00:16:57,970 We had this good, healthy relationship. 267 00:16:58,050 --> 00:17:01,470 He was professional and had his shit together, basically. 268 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:02,430 Yeah. 269 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:06,020 He really showed concern about my future, 270 00:17:06,100 --> 00:17:07,600 like, retirement, 271 00:17:07,690 --> 00:17:11,860 and started talking about, um, like, a residual dividend account, 272 00:17:11,940 --> 00:17:14,450 something that I would live off the interest. 273 00:17:14,530 --> 00:17:16,160 You know, he just made it sound so easy. 274 00:17:16,740 --> 00:17:19,200 Everything was in writing, a legal contract. 275 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,910 I was completely convinced this was my boyfriend at this point. You know? 276 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,830 Yeah, and he looked legitimate. 277 00:17:25,910 --> 00:17:28,670 He seemed to be legitimate with what his story was. 278 00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:31,840 How much did he scam you out of? 279 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,550 Probably $75,000. 280 00:17:34,630 --> 00:17:36,720 Oh my God. That's a lot of money. 281 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,890 I filed a police report, but they didn't do anything. 282 00:17:39,970 --> 00:17:43,810 I can't believe that I gave him $150,000 for investment. 283 00:17:44,930 --> 00:17:46,100 I went to the police, 284 00:17:46,190 --> 00:17:48,810 but, you know, there's still kind of the shock factor, like, 285 00:17:48,900 --> 00:17:49,980 this happened to me. 286 00:17:51,570 --> 00:17:54,780 Do you have any idea where he's living at right now? 287 00:17:54,860 --> 00:17:56,070 No. 288 00:17:56,150 --> 00:17:58,030 Where do you think he might be? 289 00:17:58,110 --> 00:18:00,820 -I don't know. He's slippery. -No. Mm. Yeah. 290 00:18:00,910 --> 00:18:02,330 He's just a snake. 291 00:18:05,870 --> 00:18:08,120 No one has seen Chris in months. 292 00:18:10,210 --> 00:18:11,960 But if we can't find him, 293 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,460 we've got no chance of the police taking on Lindsay's case. 294 00:18:19,340 --> 00:18:22,930 We need the guy to get justice one way or the other. 295 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,850 The heartbreak that he's leaving all these people, 296 00:18:26,930 --> 00:18:30,690 it's just not right, and that he can just vanish? 297 00:18:34,230 --> 00:18:37,190 -Are you doing okay? -No, I'm not. 298 00:18:37,780 --> 00:18:40,740 This is very draining for me, you know? 299 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,420 It breaks my heart, you know, all these people 300 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,210 he's taking everything from. 301 00:18:57,460 --> 00:19:01,680 I can only imagine how difficult it is for her to see 302 00:19:02,340 --> 00:19:06,430 the pain and the hurt that a lot of these victims are articulating. 303 00:19:08,180 --> 00:19:12,650 I'm pretty sure it makes her reminisce on the deceit and the lies 304 00:19:12,730 --> 00:19:17,230 that she had to witness and overcome and… and heal from. 305 00:19:18,150 --> 00:19:22,030 I think that's what makes Cecilie's role in this so powerful 306 00:19:22,110 --> 00:19:26,700 because she knows what they're feeling, she knows what they're going through, 307 00:19:26,790 --> 00:19:31,330 and she can just walk them through what's necessary 308 00:19:31,420 --> 00:19:35,000 to get them on the other side of this and hopefully get them justice. 309 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,400 I have maybe the biggest lead. 310 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,320 I'm in touch with a woman who believes she's Chris's latest victim. 311 00:20:03,910 --> 00:20:06,660 She's still in contact with him, trying to get her money back. 312 00:20:06,740 --> 00:20:08,910 -So she's on to him? -Yeah. 313 00:20:08,990 --> 00:20:12,870 So maybe we can get her to lure him to, like, a public park. 314 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,920 -Yeah. -That could work. 315 00:20:27,140 --> 00:20:32,060 We received information from one of Chris's latest victims. 316 00:20:32,140 --> 00:20:35,270 And she has, um, set up an opportunity 317 00:20:35,350 --> 00:20:38,770 to potentially lure him into this park for us. 318 00:20:40,190 --> 00:20:41,900 He thinks he's meeting her in the park, 319 00:20:41,990 --> 00:20:44,780 but it's really a chance for us to track him down. 320 00:20:44,860 --> 00:20:48,990 It's a big moment because we could potentially follow him, 321 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,870 figure out where he's living. 322 00:20:50,950 --> 00:20:54,620 He supposedly currently drives a black Lexus with red interior. 323 00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:57,000 So that's gonna be the primary car that we're looking for. 324 00:20:58,540 --> 00:21:02,210 We know this guy is very elusive, he's very shady, 325 00:21:02,300 --> 00:21:04,050 and he's very unpredictable. 326 00:21:05,050 --> 00:21:07,970 Lindsay is here to help positively ID him. 327 00:21:09,390 --> 00:21:11,680 Our local P.I. is gonna help us track him. 328 00:21:11,770 --> 00:21:14,560 We don't know what direction he might come from, 329 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,020 so we're covering all entrances. 330 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:21,230 A lot of this is one-shot opportunity. So we all have to be on our A-game. 331 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,280 Awesome. 332 00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:30,830 Can anybody see who's in that white car that slowed down right next to us? 333 00:21:30,910 --> 00:21:35,660 -Does that look like it's him? -I don't have a visual, but it's parking. 334 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,630 That's not Chris. 335 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,430 Oh, come on. 336 00:21:52,010 --> 00:21:53,430 Fifteen minutes. 337 00:21:54,100 --> 00:21:55,520 That's very close to him. 338 00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:00,730 So if it's 15 minutes to get here, he must live reasonably close to here. 339 00:22:00,810 --> 00:22:02,610 Hi, Bri, are you there? 340 00:22:02,690 --> 00:22:04,570 Yes, I'm here. Can you hear me? 341 00:22:04,650 --> 00:22:06,280 He's just 15 minutes away. 342 00:22:20,420 --> 00:22:22,710 -Oh! -Oh, that's him. That's him. 343 00:22:22,790 --> 00:22:26,260 -Oh my God. Just… Right there. -That's him. That's him right there. 344 00:22:27,630 --> 00:22:31,140 -Oh my God. Chris is here. Chris is here. -He's here in his black car. 345 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,390 All right, guys, he's here. 346 00:22:37,980 --> 00:22:39,980 -Oh my God. He's here. -Oh my God. 347 00:22:43,690 --> 00:22:45,480 He's getting out, guys. Perfect. 348 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,110 Fuck. 349 00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:52,200 Ooh, now my heart's beating. 350 00:22:58,540 --> 00:22:59,750 He's moving. 351 00:22:59,830 --> 00:23:02,000 Oh God. 352 00:23:29,820 --> 00:23:32,820 He's moving. He's walking towards his car. 353 00:23:33,410 --> 00:23:35,200 Anita, get ready to follow him. 354 00:23:52,380 --> 00:23:54,430 Anita, what's your location? I'm following. 355 00:23:55,010 --> 00:23:59,140 We're going north on, uh, State College Boulevard. 356 00:24:00,350 --> 00:24:03,600 This could be our only shot at figuring out where this guy lives. 357 00:24:03,690 --> 00:24:04,690 Stay with him. 358 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:11,400 It's gonna be difficult following him. He's looking around and changing lanes. 359 00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:14,240 He's making a left. 360 00:24:14,740 --> 00:24:18,120 I don't wanna go with him because he's, um… 361 00:24:18,620 --> 00:24:22,410 I'm gonna go maneuver, see if I can beat him. 362 00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:24,500 Get on the other side. Wait for him. 363 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,800 -Yeah, he's hauling ass now. -Haul ass with him. 364 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:43,060 He's making a right on Krueger Street, residential. 365 00:24:43,140 --> 00:24:44,690 Okay, keep your eyes on that. 366 00:24:45,810 --> 00:24:47,560 Maybe he's going home. 367 00:24:48,940 --> 00:24:51,440 He's going west on… 368 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,370 Fuck, he disappeared. Um… 369 00:24:58,830 --> 00:25:01,200 I can't find him. 370 00:25:01,790 --> 00:25:02,910 You lost sight of him? 371 00:25:07,170 --> 00:25:11,960 He's probably in one of these units with the closed garages. 372 00:25:12,550 --> 00:25:14,170 He disappeared quick. 373 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,300 The good news is that he's still in California, 374 00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:20,260 and we have his license plate number. 375 00:25:21,260 --> 00:25:22,430 He can't run forever. 376 00:25:25,810 --> 00:25:27,480 We've got a solid case. 377 00:25:28,190 --> 00:25:31,570 We know he lied about being a professional baseball player, 378 00:25:31,650 --> 00:25:35,280 and we know he was never a registered financial advisor. 379 00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:38,620 And we have other victims who can corroborate Lindsay's story. 380 00:25:40,910 --> 00:25:43,540 Lindsay claims she lost $140,000. 381 00:25:43,620 --> 00:25:45,460 -Yes. -Lauren lost over $50,000. 382 00:25:45,540 --> 00:25:47,710 Rhiannon lost over $150,000. 383 00:25:47,790 --> 00:25:49,460 I think that's what's important with this. 384 00:25:49,540 --> 00:25:52,050 It's just showing that it's not an isolated incident. 385 00:25:52,130 --> 00:25:55,510 It's time Lindsay presents this to the authorities. 386 00:25:57,340 --> 00:25:59,720 Hi, Lindsay. I've got some good news. 387 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,640 We know that you've struggled 388 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,770 to get the police to take this case seriously in the past. 389 00:26:04,850 --> 00:26:07,770 But I have been in touch with a district attorney, 390 00:26:07,850 --> 00:26:09,400 and they've agreed to meet 391 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,820 and might be able to help get the police to pick up the case. 392 00:26:13,650 --> 00:26:19,990 I am now headed to a very important and exciting meeting with DA Erin West. 393 00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:23,030 And she's one of the leading investigators in romance fraud, 394 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:26,450 and she's a deputy district attorney here in California. 395 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,830 We're both fraud fighters, 396 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,500 so I'm actually very excited myself personally 397 00:26:32,590 --> 00:26:35,010 to be able to meet her 'cause I kind of look up to her. 398 00:26:35,090 --> 00:26:39,380 So I've become a bit giddy, you know, 'cause I'm gonna meet Erin West. 399 00:26:39,470 --> 00:26:41,340 I'm so sorry, but she is super cool. 400 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,860 -Hi, Lindsay. Good to see you. -Hi. 401 00:26:52,940 --> 00:26:55,570 -How are you? I'm good. -Good, you? Good. 402 00:26:55,650 --> 00:26:59,990 So what I have here is actually the documentation. 403 00:27:00,070 --> 00:27:03,910 So I feel like you can be the one to actually bring that in. 404 00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:07,330 -Awesome. It's important. -Because it's kind of… It's your work. 405 00:27:07,410 --> 00:27:08,870 -Yeah, for sure. -Thank you. 406 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,040 -Hello. Hi, how are you? -Hey! Hey. 407 00:27:14,130 --> 00:27:16,960 -Really nice to see you guys. -You too. 408 00:27:17,050 --> 00:27:18,550 Thank you for meeting. 409 00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:23,140 Lindsay was defrauded by Chris Lloyd out of $140,000 410 00:27:23,220 --> 00:27:25,810 in what we believe was an investment scam. 411 00:27:25,890 --> 00:27:32,190 It's almost 300 pages from start till end with evidence of the manipulation. 412 00:27:32,270 --> 00:27:35,730 So we know there are so many more victims. 413 00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:39,150 I am not… I am one of like maybe a dozen plus. 414 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,530 -Right. -That's… yeah. 415 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,530 I'm really sorry this happened to you. 416 00:27:45,410 --> 00:27:46,660 This is the fake contract. 417 00:27:46,740 --> 00:27:48,040 -Yeah. -Yeah. 418 00:28:02,090 --> 00:28:04,140 I've never seen a case like this. 419 00:28:04,220 --> 00:28:08,680 I have never seen an in-person romance case like this. 420 00:28:08,770 --> 00:28:13,190 And then when you tell me, "Oh, it happened to her and her and her…" 421 00:28:13,270 --> 00:28:14,100 Wow. 422 00:28:14,190 --> 00:28:17,980 -I want this case. This is a great case. -Yeah? Yeah. 423 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,450 I don't like the way you got bounced around between police departments. 424 00:28:22,530 --> 00:28:25,780 But I can also see how something like this falls between the cracks. 425 00:28:25,870 --> 00:28:31,410 We need to, like, dig it out of the cracks and get it seen 426 00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:34,420 because this is a really important case. 427 00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:37,170 I would charge it as theft by false pretenses. 428 00:28:37,250 --> 00:28:39,300 -Let's shine some light on this. Let's-- -Yeah. 429 00:28:39,380 --> 00:28:40,460 Let's ask some questions. 430 00:28:40,550 --> 00:28:42,470 Let's figure out where things are 431 00:28:42,550 --> 00:28:44,760 and what it would take to move things forward. 432 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,930 -This game's not over. -No, okay. That's good to hear. 433 00:28:48,010 --> 00:28:49,890 -Bye. -Good to check in with you. 434 00:28:49,970 --> 00:28:52,730 -Thank you so much. Appreciate it. -'Course. So good to see you. 435 00:28:52,810 --> 00:28:55,480 -So how are you feeling? -I feel great. 436 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,480 I feel like that was, like, very productive, very helpful. 437 00:28:59,570 --> 00:29:01,780 -Thank you. Honestly. -Have a hug. 438 00:29:01,860 --> 00:29:04,280 Thank you so much for everything, always. 439 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,120 -What a journey. I know. -Honestly. 440 00:29:08,530 --> 00:29:11,160 To even get in the room with a district attorney is rare. 441 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,210 And for it to be so encouraging about the case, it's… 442 00:29:14,290 --> 00:29:17,130 It's a one in a million. Like, it doesn't happen. It just doesn't. 443 00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:21,880 I'm done for the day. 444 00:29:26,430 --> 00:29:32,680 Someone like Chris, who's managed to slip through the cracks somehow, 445 00:29:32,770 --> 00:29:36,390 deserves to finally, you know, pay for what he's done. 446 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,860 He belongs in jail. 447 00:29:40,150 --> 00:29:43,820 And I'm determined to put this behind me and move on with my life. 448 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,390 I've seen a lot as an investigator for 15 years. 449 00:30:14,180 --> 00:30:17,100 A lot of times, the bad guys don't get caught. 450 00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:20,020 And victims don't get justice. 451 00:30:21,060 --> 00:30:27,110 So it is refreshing for me to play a part in balancing the scales a little bit. 452 00:30:28,990 --> 00:30:34,410 It's important for us to continue this fight for justice and help people. 453 00:30:35,870 --> 00:30:40,580 We may not stop every scam, but we can stop the silence. 454 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,790 There's power in speaking up. 455 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,630 You did a really good job. You should be proud. 456 00:30:45,710 --> 00:30:48,470 It's gone past a civil matter into a criminal matter. 457 00:30:48,550 --> 00:30:50,050 Oh God! 458 00:30:51,930 --> 00:30:55,310 -We exposed these fraudsters. -You've been conning women. 459 00:30:55,390 --> 00:30:58,180 And shown people how to hold them accountable. 460 00:30:59,890 --> 00:31:02,900 Do I deserve how you treated me? Stole from me? 461 00:31:02,980 --> 00:31:04,110 You're going to jail. 462 00:31:06,530 --> 00:31:09,240 They fucked with the wrong women this time around. 463 00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:15,290 This is just the beginning. 464 00:31:15,370 --> 00:31:16,580 -Cheers! -To justice! 465 00:31:16,660 --> 00:31:17,910 We can't let scammers 466 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,830 destroy one of the most beautiful things in life. 467 00:31:21,460 --> 00:31:22,380 Love. 39302

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