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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,068 --> 00:00:03,102 -[applause] -[guitars tuning] 2 00:00:03,087 --> 00:00:04,945 ANNOUNCER: Are you guys ready for one of 3 00:00:05,106 --> 00:00:06,380 our final bands tonight? 4 00:00:06,541 --> 00:00:07,672 [crowd cheering] 5 00:00:07,592 --> 00:00:10,459 ANNOUNCER: Chicago, give a warm welcome 6 00:00:10,577 --> 00:00:12,878 to Broken Social Scene! 7 00:00:12,997 --> 00:00:15,481 -[applause] -ALL: Two, three, four... 8 00:00:15,475 --> 00:00:17,642 ["Ibi Dreams of Pavement (A Better Day)" 9 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,718 by Broken Social Scene] 10 00:00:19,837 --> 00:00:25,233 ♪ 11 00:00:25,393 --> 00:00:28,402 ♪ 12 00:00:28,562 --> 00:00:32,398 ♪ 13 00:00:32,516 --> 00:00:33,574 ♪ 14 00:00:33,734 --> 00:00:38,437 -♪ Well, I got shot right in the back ♪ 15 00:00:38,498 --> 00:00:43,742 ♪ And you were there, you were there ♪ 16 00:00:43,902 --> 00:00:48,330 ♪ I said I was never coming back ♪ 17 00:00:48,449 --> 00:00:53,785 ♪ And you were there, you were there ♪ 18 00:00:53,638 --> 00:00:58,790 ♪ Well I know the eyelids are under attack ♪ 19 00:00:58,851 --> 00:01:03,829 ♪ You were there, you were there. ♪ 20 00:01:03,948 --> 00:01:06,499 ♪ 21 00:01:06,617 --> 00:01:09,368 KEVIN: This is the part where you gotta cheer with us 22 00:01:09,362 --> 00:01:12,763 because we are alive, Chicago! 23 00:01:12,782 --> 00:01:15,190 ♪ 24 00:01:15,309 --> 00:01:17,376 Lots of fucked up things goin' on right now, 25 00:01:17,370 --> 00:01:19,519 so let's just cheer for ourselves, alright? 26 00:01:19,581 --> 00:01:22,965 On the count of three, cheer as loud as you can. 27 00:01:22,917 --> 00:01:25,559 One, two, three, go! 28 00:01:25,587 --> 00:01:30,456 [crowd cheering] 29 00:01:30,574 --> 00:01:32,783 KEVIN: Last chance, here we go. 30 00:01:32,802 --> 00:01:35,386 One, two, three... scream! 31 00:01:35,504 --> 00:01:41,058 [crowd screaming and band playing on video] 32 00:01:46,048 --> 00:01:47,415 [concert video stops] 33 00:01:47,442 --> 00:01:54,888 ♪ 34 00:01:54,949 --> 00:01:58,392 -Slide to me a little bit more. 35 00:01:58,286 --> 00:02:01,787 So, this is a movie that I shot and edited together. 36 00:02:03,407 --> 00:02:04,290 Um... 37 00:02:05,376 --> 00:02:06,374 2008. 38 00:02:06,294 --> 00:02:07,793 What year were you born? 39 00:02:07,912 --> 00:02:09,403 -'07. -'07, okay. 40 00:02:09,464 --> 00:02:13,407 So, we put this together the year after you were born. 41 00:02:13,468 --> 00:02:15,893 Actually, this movie never got finished. 42 00:02:15,845 --> 00:02:17,336 -Are you gonna try and finish it? 43 00:02:17,496 --> 00:02:19,972 -Yeah. It's time to finish it. 44 00:02:20,091 --> 00:02:21,557 -Mm-hm. -Yeah. 45 00:02:21,676 --> 00:02:26,228 ["KC Accidental" by Broken Social Scene] 46 00:02:26,347 --> 00:02:30,749 ♪ 47 00:02:30,777 --> 00:02:34,920 ♪ 48 00:02:34,906 --> 00:02:38,691 ♪ 49 00:02:38,809 --> 00:02:42,203 ♪ 50 00:02:42,363 --> 00:02:46,448 ♪ 51 00:02:46,567 --> 00:02:49,993 ♪ 52 00:02:50,112 --> 00:02:53,839 ♪ 53 00:02:53,958 --> 00:02:58,486 ♪ 54 00:02:58,513 --> 00:03:02,615 ♪ 55 00:03:02,775 --> 00:03:06,885 ♪ 56 00:03:07,004 --> 00:03:11,540 ♪ 57 00:03:11,526 --> 00:03:15,878 ♪ 58 00:03:15,863 --> 00:03:20,424 ♪ 59 00:03:20,410 --> 00:03:24,053 ♪ 60 00:03:24,038 --> 00:03:28,641 ♪ 61 00:03:28,759 --> 00:03:32,478 ♪ 62 00:03:32,505 --> 00:03:36,749 ♪ 63 00:03:36,909 --> 00:03:40,678 ♪ 64 00:03:40,796 --> 00:03:45,449 ♪ 65 00:03:45,568 --> 00:03:48,084 ♪ 66 00:03:48,104 --> 00:03:51,096 [electronic distortion] 67 00:03:51,215 --> 00:03:53,098 STEPHEN (V.O.): In the late '90s and early 2000s, 68 00:03:53,258 --> 00:03:55,851 I was living in downtown Toronto. 69 00:03:55,969 --> 00:03:58,820 At that time, you could get a sweet place to live 70 00:03:58,740 --> 00:04:02,432 for under $500. 71 00:04:02,452 --> 00:04:04,626 People bought records from Sam the Record Man 72 00:04:04,579 --> 00:04:07,580 and rented movies from Blockbuster. 73 00:04:07,698 --> 00:04:09,548 Most people were discovering mainstream music 74 00:04:09,708 --> 00:04:11,366 on the MuchMusic Countdown. 75 00:04:11,485 --> 00:04:14,595 They also watched Citytv and Speakers Corner. 76 00:04:14,589 --> 00:04:15,804 And Drake? 77 00:04:15,923 --> 00:04:18,265 He was just an actor on a TV show called Degrassi. 78 00:04:18,259 --> 00:04:19,766 [school bell rings] 79 00:04:19,761 --> 00:04:21,351 STEPHEN (V.O.): Toronto also had this youthful 80 00:04:21,304 --> 00:04:23,770 and creative underground. 81 00:04:23,765 --> 00:04:26,873 It's where I found this exciting group of artists. 82 00:04:26,934 --> 00:04:28,142 -Come on! 83 00:04:28,302 --> 00:04:30,902 I'd like to welcome to the room, Mr. Stephen Chung! 84 00:04:30,897 --> 00:04:33,689 [everyone cheering] 85 00:04:38,178 --> 00:04:39,728 STEPHEN (V.O.): That's me, Stephen. 86 00:04:39,846 --> 00:04:42,331 Stevie. Chung. Chungie. 87 00:04:42,283 --> 00:04:43,982 I'm a cinematographer. 88 00:04:44,101 --> 00:04:46,410 Words are not my strong suit. 89 00:04:46,529 --> 00:04:51,690 -♪ I think it's almost time... ♪ 90 00:04:51,584 --> 00:04:54,743 BRENDAN: Let's do that again! 91 00:04:54,861 --> 00:04:56,319 STEPHEN (V.O.): There's so many players 92 00:04:56,339 --> 00:04:57,621 in the Broken Social Scene. 93 00:04:57,739 --> 00:05:00,733 It's almost impossible to keep track of them all. 94 00:05:00,718 --> 00:05:03,018 The first person I met was Brendan Canning, 95 00:05:02,970 --> 00:05:04,503 AKA "The Champ." 96 00:05:04,621 --> 00:05:06,614 He's the DJ, the selector; 97 00:05:06,641 --> 00:05:08,148 he's the heartbeat of the party. 98 00:05:08,308 --> 00:05:09,350 ["Steal My Sunshine" by Len] 99 00:05:09,510 --> 00:05:11,042 BRENDAN (V.O.): It was the '90s, 100 00:05:11,103 --> 00:05:12,778 so there were lots of different bands. 101 00:05:12,772 --> 00:05:15,781 I kind of joined Len around '96... 102 00:05:15,775 --> 00:05:17,190 by accident. 103 00:05:17,268 --> 00:05:21,219 ♪ I was lying on the grass of Sunday morning of last week ♪ 104 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:24,623 ♪ Indulging in my self-defeat... ♪ 105 00:05:24,617 --> 00:05:26,617 BRENDAN (V.O.): But I was still in hHead. 106 00:05:26,735 --> 00:05:29,528 Grunge was happening, and so all the Canadian labels 107 00:05:29,646 --> 00:05:32,039 were trying to play catch-up, like, "Oh, they're a trio. 108 00:05:32,199 --> 00:05:34,808 "They got plaid shirts and army shorts." 109 00:05:34,836 --> 00:05:38,028 That led into winning a radio station contest 110 00:05:38,047 --> 00:05:39,955 and winning a hundred grand. 111 00:05:40,073 --> 00:05:42,365 ["Happy" by hHead] 112 00:05:42,385 --> 00:05:44,559 BRENDAN (V.O.): We didn't make a great record. 113 00:05:44,512 --> 00:05:46,211 I feel like a fucking idiot. 114 00:05:46,330 --> 00:05:50,732 Smoking too much weed, in a band who wasn't quite all together... 115 00:05:50,685 --> 00:05:53,702 Whatever. You're 24. You make mistakes. 116 00:05:53,821 --> 00:05:57,790 ♪ I'm on your side, y'all... ♪ 117 00:05:57,775 --> 00:06:01,060 BRENDAN (V.O.): Then I started playing in By Divine Right. 118 00:06:00,987 --> 00:06:03,796 You know, I wasn't feeling like I'm living up 119 00:06:03,914 --> 00:06:06,966 to some kind of potential that I believe I have. 120 00:06:07,084 --> 00:06:09,710 ♪ 121 00:06:09,704 --> 00:06:12,580 BRENDAN (V.O.): It was kind of a little confusing because I was 122 00:06:12,740 --> 00:06:15,808 really into house music as well, just loving staying out late, 123 00:06:15,793 --> 00:06:19,235 doing some ecstasy, hearing DJs play house music. 124 00:06:19,255 --> 00:06:21,755 I was obsessed. 125 00:06:21,915 --> 00:06:25,500 ♪ 126 00:06:25,619 --> 00:06:27,753 ♪ 127 00:06:27,638 --> 00:06:29,321 STEPHEN (V.O.): While Brendan and I were 128 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:30,698 partying our asses off, 129 00:06:30,725 --> 00:06:33,926 I discovered Charlie Spearin and his boys Do Make Say Think. 130 00:06:34,086 --> 00:06:37,746 ["The Landlord is Dead" by Do Make Say Think] 131 00:06:37,732 --> 00:06:42,258 ♪ 132 00:06:42,278 --> 00:06:45,595 ♪ 133 00:06:45,615 --> 00:06:48,106 ♪ 134 00:06:48,225 --> 00:06:50,534 CHARLIE (V.O.): I'm familiar with the chill-out room. 135 00:06:50,653 --> 00:06:52,978 4 in the morning, warehouses, 136 00:06:53,039 --> 00:06:55,539 and when everybody's too freaked out on MDMA or whatever, 137 00:06:55,658 --> 00:06:58,459 they go into this room filled with couches, 138 00:06:58,619 --> 00:07:01,128 and then there would be this quartet of dudes with guitars 139 00:07:01,288 --> 00:07:07,542 and delay pedals making the most gentle ambient music. 140 00:07:07,661 --> 00:07:10,295 I listened to you guys in awe. 141 00:07:10,414 --> 00:07:12,038 I'd never heard anything like it before. 142 00:07:12,199 --> 00:07:18,003 ["The Landlord is Dead" by Do Make Say Think] 143 00:07:18,064 --> 00:07:22,298 ♪ 144 00:07:22,318 --> 00:07:26,987 ♪ 145 00:07:27,147 --> 00:07:30,983 ♪ 146 00:07:31,143 --> 00:07:34,002 ♪ 147 00:07:33,955 --> 00:07:37,414 CHARLIE (V.O.): It felt like the way music was supposed to be. 148 00:07:37,533 --> 00:07:40,242 It was such a contrast to the struggling 149 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,962 to get radio play or struggling to get mainstream attention. 150 00:07:47,001 --> 00:07:52,087 For me, the real forefront of interesting music in Toronto 151 00:07:52,205 --> 00:07:53,847 came from Peaches. 152 00:07:53,808 --> 00:07:57,676 -♪ Let's get over this ♪ 153 00:07:57,794 --> 00:08:01,212 ♪ I'm your lovertits... ♪ 154 00:08:01,373 --> 00:08:04,215 CHARLIE (V.O.): She encouraged everybody to get their freak on. 155 00:08:04,335 --> 00:08:08,020 There was a sense of, you're never gonna make it, 156 00:08:08,180 --> 00:08:11,256 so there was this counterculture freedom 157 00:08:11,283 --> 00:08:13,892 to just book shows and play shows 158 00:08:13,953 --> 00:08:16,453 and do whatever the hell you want. 159 00:08:19,708 --> 00:08:22,126 CHARLIE: Holy cow, look at that dust. 160 00:08:25,381 --> 00:08:29,783 This is my Tascam 388 Studio 8. 161 00:08:29,844 --> 00:08:31,785 This was how you made friends. 162 00:08:31,846 --> 00:08:33,462 This is how you brought people together. 163 00:08:33,347 --> 00:08:35,689 This is how you made music. 164 00:08:35,683 --> 00:08:40,519 This was the, you know, poor person's perfect studio. 165 00:08:44,132 --> 00:08:45,974 This is basically what everybody wanted to do 166 00:08:46,092 --> 00:08:49,278 instead of watching television, instead of consuming television. 167 00:08:49,396 --> 00:08:51,538 It was a way to create. 168 00:08:51,532 --> 00:08:56,051 So much joy, so much possibility, so much music. 169 00:08:56,037 --> 00:08:58,570 STEPHEN (V.O.): Tell me when you first met Kevin. 170 00:08:58,688 --> 00:09:00,989 CHARLIE (V.O.): This kid comes up to me and says, 171 00:09:01,107 --> 00:09:03,650 "You look like a guy who likes Tortoise." 172 00:09:03,711 --> 00:09:06,645 And I thought, "Is there a look? 173 00:09:06,805 --> 00:09:08,997 "Do I have this look? 'Cause I do like Tortoise. 174 00:09:09,115 --> 00:09:10,315 "I love Tortoise!" 175 00:09:10,301 --> 00:09:12,834 That was that icebreaker that he came up to me with, 176 00:09:12,953 --> 00:09:14,386 and it worked. 177 00:09:14,505 --> 00:09:16,263 KEVIN: Okay, let's go. Let's go on mix. 178 00:09:16,423 --> 00:09:19,141 [keyboard and drum pad playing] 179 00:09:20,377 --> 00:09:21,535 KEVIN: What key are you in? 180 00:09:21,562 --> 00:09:24,146 CHARLIE: I dunno. 181 00:09:24,264 --> 00:09:26,256 -[singing] 182 00:09:26,275 --> 00:09:28,850 ♪ 183 00:09:28,969 --> 00:09:33,171 ♪ 184 00:09:33,199 --> 00:09:37,776 ♪ 185 00:09:37,894 --> 00:09:40,262 ♪ 186 00:09:40,380 --> 00:09:42,556 CHARLIE (V.O.): Kevin and I just started talking about music 187 00:09:42,583 --> 00:09:43,715 all the time. 188 00:09:43,709 --> 00:09:45,450 He would come over and we'd do recordings, 189 00:09:45,610 --> 00:09:47,527 and then we started KC Accidental, 190 00:09:47,588 --> 00:09:50,129 the idea being that we would just sort of embrace 191 00:09:50,091 --> 00:09:53,016 spontaneity, and whatever happens happens. 192 00:09:52,968 --> 00:09:55,560 -Love this guy! I want it on film. 193 00:09:55,554 --> 00:09:57,662 [Charlie laughs] 194 00:09:57,723 --> 00:10:00,148 STEPHEN: Sweet, sweet track. 195 00:10:00,101 --> 00:10:02,059 CHARLIE (V.O.): Kevin and Charles, Accidental. 196 00:10:04,972 --> 00:10:08,123 BRENDAN (V.O.): I would see Kevin around town a little bit. 197 00:10:08,109 --> 00:10:10,241 You know, boppin' around. 198 00:10:10,236 --> 00:10:14,579 This one DJ night, I had Kevin doing security. 199 00:10:14,573 --> 00:10:15,614 He looked a little distressed; 200 00:10:15,732 --> 00:10:17,199 I'm like, "Oh, what's goin' on?" 201 00:10:17,317 --> 00:10:19,918 He's like, "Oh, man, someone brought in Red Baron beer here," 202 00:10:19,912 --> 00:10:22,162 and he's like, "I gotta go try and find the guy. 203 00:10:22,322 --> 00:10:23,872 "He's, like, sneakin' beers into the bar." 204 00:10:23,991 --> 00:10:26,808 And I was just like, "Well, fuck, let me help you 205 00:10:26,794 --> 00:10:28,143 "try and find the guy." 206 00:10:28,129 --> 00:10:31,288 So I'm makin' a show of, like, lookin' around the bar 207 00:10:31,406 --> 00:10:32,714 for Red Baron beer, 208 00:10:32,791 --> 00:10:35,642 but meanwhile it's like I'm going into my bag to be like... 209 00:10:35,636 --> 00:10:37,811 [mimics beer opening sound] Fuckin' guy! 210 00:10:37,971 --> 00:10:40,180 'Cause I had brought beers from the last gig. 211 00:10:41,666 --> 00:10:44,676 Kevin made me a couple of mix cassettes 212 00:10:44,794 --> 00:10:46,979 that had some KC Accidental on it. 213 00:10:48,798 --> 00:10:50,315 It spoke to me. 214 00:10:51,694 --> 00:10:54,528 I just said it's like, "Oh! Oh, that's good." 215 00:10:54,688 --> 00:10:57,239 It's like, "Maybe I'll make this kid a star." 216 00:11:24,268 --> 00:11:25,217 KEVIN: So talented! 217 00:11:25,377 --> 00:11:27,485 MAGGIE: You are lucky guys. See you tomorrow. 218 00:11:27,645 --> 00:11:29,288 -Bye, Mom! -Alright. 219 00:11:29,315 --> 00:11:30,981 -Okay, bye Mama! 220 00:11:34,111 --> 00:11:35,961 STEPHEN (V.O.): I was immediately drawn to Kevin, 221 00:11:35,946 --> 00:11:37,479 and so was my camera. 222 00:11:37,597 --> 00:11:41,066 He had this amazing ability to inspire and connect people. 223 00:11:41,226 --> 00:11:44,703 But for us, it was really the music that glued us together. 224 00:11:46,749 --> 00:11:48,073 KEVIN (V.O.): So, we met, 225 00:11:48,233 --> 00:11:50,149 and then we started to see each other 226 00:11:50,211 --> 00:11:52,369 at certain parties at three, four in the morning. 227 00:11:52,487 --> 00:11:53,979 -Yeah! 228 00:11:53,964 --> 00:11:56,014 KEVIN (V.O.): You had a hard time communicating. 229 00:11:56,008 --> 00:11:58,383 You did. You had a hard time expressing yourself. 230 00:12:00,012 --> 00:12:02,078 You were the poster child for 231 00:12:01,931 --> 00:12:05,057 "You're never alone when you listen to music." 232 00:12:08,562 --> 00:12:10,695 I still remember, Pavement was playing 233 00:12:10,689 --> 00:12:12,697 and you looked at me and you said, 234 00:12:12,691 --> 00:12:15,174 "I don't really understand that much, 235 00:12:15,236 --> 00:12:17,102 "but I understand this." 236 00:12:17,262 --> 00:12:18,628 That was the start. 237 00:12:18,614 --> 00:12:25,268 ♪ 238 00:12:25,287 --> 00:12:28,405 JO-ANN (V.O.): Like a lot of good art and music, 239 00:12:28,523 --> 00:12:29,756 in the beginning... 240 00:12:29,916 --> 00:12:35,078 I mean, there's nothing like a beginning. 241 00:12:35,196 --> 00:12:36,913 KEVIN (V.O.): Brendan, the story goes, 242 00:12:37,032 --> 00:12:40,050 he just got my number and he called me, twice. 243 00:12:40,168 --> 00:12:42,928 BRENDAN (V.O.): He was moving in with Jo-Ann to Afton, 244 00:12:43,046 --> 00:12:46,189 and I started just kind of pursuing him, per se. 245 00:12:46,141 --> 00:12:49,192 -I like the way he sways. I like the way he moves. 246 00:12:49,144 --> 00:12:51,945 There was something about his speed. 247 00:12:51,939 --> 00:12:54,356 He was slow, but yet so accurate. 248 00:12:54,474 --> 00:12:55,941 I got all this gear from Charlie 249 00:12:56,059 --> 00:12:57,526 because the Do Makes went on tour, 250 00:12:57,644 --> 00:13:00,696 so I got his 8-track and I said, "Why don't you come over?" 251 00:13:00,814 --> 00:13:02,605 BRENDAN (V.O.): So we just started hanging out 252 00:13:02,724 --> 00:13:04,374 in the basement. That was kinda it. 253 00:13:04,326 --> 00:13:07,219 JO-ANN (V.O.): We would always call him our second wife. 254 00:13:07,204 --> 00:13:10,655 He would be at our house all morning, all afternoon, 255 00:13:10,774 --> 00:13:13,983 all evening, into the next day. 256 00:13:14,003 --> 00:13:16,420 He was an inspiration to Kevin. 257 00:13:16,538 --> 00:13:20,740 He was a bit older and had lots of experience in music. 258 00:13:20,801 --> 00:13:23,126 He had his sea legs maybe a little bit. 259 00:13:23,244 --> 00:13:25,637 KEVIN (V.O.): Like, I just would wake up and be like, 260 00:13:25,756 --> 00:13:27,505 "I gotta just hang out with this guy." 261 00:13:27,624 --> 00:13:28,765 He just made my life better. 262 00:13:28,884 --> 00:13:30,767 Brendan and I'd stay up till around 6 am, 263 00:13:30,886 --> 00:13:33,103 just messin' around in the deep part of the winter. 264 00:13:33,221 --> 00:13:34,980 It was having the best of both worlds. 265 00:13:35,098 --> 00:13:37,024 It was having, you know, the woman you love 266 00:13:37,184 --> 00:13:40,018 and just being so excited about this guy coming over, 267 00:13:40,178 --> 00:13:42,887 making a really mellow, simple-- 268 00:13:43,048 --> 00:13:46,099 because we only had 8 tracks to work with-- record. 269 00:13:46,260 --> 00:13:47,984 BRENDAN (V.O.): I think he thought he was 270 00:13:48,103 --> 00:13:50,336 making my solo record, and I was just thinking, 271 00:13:50,331 --> 00:13:52,922 "Nah, it's like who wants a fuckin' solo career?" 272 00:13:52,875 --> 00:13:54,899 You know, like, we got a thing happening. 273 00:13:54,918 --> 00:13:56,785 There's a thing. 274 00:13:56,903 --> 00:13:59,637 ["Passport" by Broken Social Scene] 275 00:13:59,631 --> 00:14:03,625 KEVIN (V.O.): And it turned out to become Feel Good Lost. 276 00:14:03,743 --> 00:14:06,878 ♪ Coming to you live ♪ 277 00:14:06,996 --> 00:14:12,451 ♪ Passport radio almost mine ♪ 278 00:14:12,478 --> 00:14:16,696 ♪ Coming to you live ♪ 279 00:14:16,856 --> 00:14:19,524 ♪ Passport radio almost mine ♪ 280 00:14:21,403 --> 00:14:24,220 BRENDAN (V.O.): We had this one jammer going and I was like, 281 00:14:24,239 --> 00:14:27,157 "We should get Leslie to sing on this." 282 00:14:27,275 --> 00:14:30,343 She was living at West Queen Street with Peaches. 283 00:14:30,370 --> 00:14:34,906 -♪ We want it... ♪ 284 00:14:35,024 --> 00:14:37,559 LESLIE (V.O.): I remember Queen Street felt exciting. 285 00:14:37,544 --> 00:14:39,319 Kensington Market felt exciting. 286 00:14:39,213 --> 00:14:41,505 I remember walking into Songbird. 287 00:14:41,623 --> 00:14:42,731 BRENDAN (V.O.): Yeah. 288 00:14:42,807 --> 00:14:45,484 -It would be kind of this church feeling of, like, 289 00:14:45,602 --> 00:14:48,653 "Ah! Ah!" Like a hallowed hall of gear. 290 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,756 And you, it must have been 291 00:14:51,875 --> 00:14:53,991 that we kind of got reconnected through-- 292 00:14:53,852 --> 00:14:55,060 -'Cause you're frickin' By Divine Right. 293 00:14:55,178 --> 00:14:56,870 We were in By Divine Right together. 294 00:14:57,030 --> 00:14:58,563 -Oh, good God! [laughs] 295 00:15:02,185 --> 00:15:04,503 LESLIE (V.O.): By the time we were jamming at Afton, 296 00:15:04,530 --> 00:15:06,521 I felt like a road warrior, 297 00:15:06,639 --> 00:15:11,142 and then you played for a whole lifespan before me. 298 00:15:11,203 --> 00:15:13,703 And then, this guy Kevin had none of that experience, 299 00:15:13,822 --> 00:15:15,388 had never played shows, 300 00:15:15,416 --> 00:15:17,799 and yet had the really optimistic, 301 00:15:17,751 --> 00:15:20,352 positive hubris to tell us what to do. 302 00:15:20,337 --> 00:15:22,945 And I felt really confused but charmed and convinced 303 00:15:22,965 --> 00:15:24,506 by his clarity of things. 304 00:15:26,117 --> 00:15:28,534 -Feel Good Lost, it wasn't really a band, you know? 305 00:15:28,595 --> 00:15:32,222 It was kind of a concept that Brendan and Kevin started. 306 00:15:32,340 --> 00:15:34,899 Those two cats were manipulating the tape machine 307 00:15:34,893 --> 00:15:37,793 like an instrument, creating this world, 308 00:15:37,813 --> 00:15:39,053 these soundscapes; 309 00:15:39,172 --> 00:15:41,239 this cloud, this beautiful cloud. 310 00:15:41,233 --> 00:15:43,808 That's all I can really call it. 311 00:15:43,927 --> 00:15:46,945 I can't remember how the invitation came. 312 00:15:47,063 --> 00:15:50,331 I guess, like, me playing trombone was-- 313 00:15:50,284 --> 00:15:54,094 and bringing a trombone into this type of music 314 00:15:54,121 --> 00:15:55,987 was another original thought. 315 00:15:56,105 --> 00:15:59,924 And they were doing it in this basement. 316 00:15:59,918 --> 00:16:04,253 CHARLIE (V.O.): It became a real hub, real fast. 317 00:16:04,173 --> 00:16:06,597 It was basically guest after guest. 318 00:16:06,592 --> 00:16:07,591 -Hey. -Hey. 319 00:16:07,709 --> 00:16:09,918 -Jesus, come on in! 320 00:16:09,803 --> 00:16:11,686 Always recording. 321 00:16:11,804 --> 00:16:12,937 Always. 322 00:16:12,931 --> 00:16:14,506 -Hey, I'm Sammy, by the way. 323 00:16:14,624 --> 00:16:17,601 -Nice camera. -Is this thing on, man? 324 00:16:17,719 --> 00:16:18,676 STEPHEN: Yeah. 325 00:16:18,795 --> 00:16:19,953 KEVIN: We should do this. 326 00:16:19,980 --> 00:16:21,688 SAM: Yeah, let's go. 327 00:16:21,848 --> 00:16:24,265 JUSTIN (V.O.): This is just another one of those evenings, 328 00:16:24,384 --> 00:16:25,383 I guess. 329 00:16:25,444 --> 00:16:26,359 [guitars tuning] 330 00:16:26,478 --> 00:16:28,594 JUSTIN (V.O.): You just live in the moment. 331 00:16:28,489 --> 00:16:31,080 But you knew that you were a part of something 332 00:16:31,033 --> 00:16:34,301 that was just really awesome. 333 00:16:34,328 --> 00:16:37,329 ♪ 334 00:16:37,447 --> 00:16:40,682 ♪ 335 00:16:40,667 --> 00:16:44,193 ♪ 336 00:16:44,213 --> 00:16:47,355 ♪ 337 00:16:47,341 --> 00:16:49,682 JIMMY (V.O.): I went over to Kev's house on Afton 338 00:16:49,676 --> 00:16:52,177 and he introduced me to this guy named Brendan. 339 00:16:52,295 --> 00:16:54,529 They just had a really good connection. 340 00:16:54,515 --> 00:16:56,781 They both kind of see things I think as 341 00:16:56,808 --> 00:16:58,249 the person who's playing the part 342 00:16:58,310 --> 00:17:00,660 is more important than the part that they play. 343 00:17:00,687 --> 00:17:02,554 ANDREW (V.O.): All these different little scenes 344 00:17:02,672 --> 00:17:03,455 came together. 345 00:17:03,482 --> 00:17:04,697 Charles bringing different people, 346 00:17:04,691 --> 00:17:06,024 I brought different people. 347 00:17:08,094 --> 00:17:09,310 We jammed there all the time, 348 00:17:09,429 --> 00:17:11,212 but they also had lots of parties, 349 00:17:11,331 --> 00:17:14,065 and then they had brunches that would turn into parties. 350 00:17:14,183 --> 00:17:16,417 JO-ANN (V.O.): Everybody was interested in each other. 351 00:17:16,370 --> 00:17:18,586 Everybody wanted to talk to each other. 352 00:17:18,539 --> 00:17:20,013 Everyone was welcome. 353 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,181 There was food. 354 00:17:21,208 --> 00:17:22,807 There was excellent lighting. 355 00:17:22,834 --> 00:17:26,160 There was, like, a warm place to land. 356 00:17:26,279 --> 00:17:28,396 KEVIN: You've got it. In the pocket! 357 00:17:28,382 --> 00:17:30,815 I'd say sometimes drop out, 358 00:17:30,975 --> 00:17:33,576 just so it can be even better when it comes back in. 359 00:17:33,695 --> 00:17:35,753 -I'm just trying to, make sure I remember... 360 00:17:35,872 --> 00:17:36,954 -Yeah, don't forget the... 361 00:17:37,015 --> 00:17:39,073 JASON (V.O.): I've always worked as a carpenter. 362 00:17:38,892 --> 00:17:41,292 I would go directly from the shop. 363 00:17:41,453 --> 00:17:44,721 I got the nickname, I think it was Peroff that coined it, 364 00:17:44,839 --> 00:17:46,072 "Dusty Pants." 365 00:17:46,066 --> 00:17:48,833 [guitar playing] 366 00:17:48,819 --> 00:17:51,086 JASON (V.O.): You would come over in the afternoon 367 00:17:51,071 --> 00:17:52,445 and you'd hang around. 368 00:17:52,605 --> 00:17:54,622 There'd be a lot of just hanging around. 369 00:17:54,575 --> 00:17:56,307 The endless hanging out. 370 00:17:56,368 --> 00:17:58,885 It was just gettin' high in the middle of the day 371 00:17:58,912 --> 00:18:00,220 and goin' into that basement. 372 00:18:00,247 --> 00:18:02,280 There was something about the camaraderie 373 00:18:02,207 --> 00:18:03,582 that was just super fun. 374 00:18:03,700 --> 00:18:07,227 [band jamming] 375 00:18:07,254 --> 00:18:11,623 ♪ 376 00:18:11,783 --> 00:18:15,610 ♪ 377 00:18:15,728 --> 00:18:20,465 ♪ 378 00:18:20,583 --> 00:18:24,669 ♪ 379 00:18:24,730 --> 00:18:27,889 ♪ 380 00:18:28,007 --> 00:18:31,526 ♪ 381 00:18:31,645 --> 00:18:34,345 JASON (V.O.): And you all fall in love with each other 382 00:18:34,406 --> 00:18:36,998 in different ways, and you all get crushes on each other 383 00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:38,483 in different ways, musical and otherwise. 384 00:18:38,601 --> 00:18:40,960 And because there's so many of us, 385 00:18:40,954 --> 00:18:43,988 there's lots of ways that you could personally get to know 386 00:18:44,107 --> 00:18:46,373 one other person off to the side 387 00:18:46,293 --> 00:18:48,843 and create your own relationships with them. 388 00:18:48,795 --> 00:18:52,714 Jo-Ann and Kevin already made Afton into this hearth. 389 00:18:54,067 --> 00:18:55,675 It was like the eternal present. 390 00:18:57,846 --> 00:19:00,321 KEVIN (V.O.): It certainly felt like there was some kind of 391 00:19:00,307 --> 00:19:02,081 renaissance going on. 392 00:19:02,142 --> 00:19:05,326 It wasn't so hard to be an artist 393 00:19:05,312 --> 00:19:07,829 around 2000 in Toronto. 394 00:19:07,814 --> 00:19:09,097 Rent was cheap. 395 00:19:09,215 --> 00:19:11,666 The creativity was on fire. 396 00:19:11,652 --> 00:19:13,860 JO-ANN (V.O.): Queen West, there was hardly anybody 397 00:19:14,020 --> 00:19:15,628 in that neighbourhood that we knew. 398 00:19:15,788 --> 00:19:17,497 Katharine Mulherin's gallery was there, 399 00:19:17,491 --> 00:19:19,090 and if Katharine's gallery is here, 400 00:19:19,117 --> 00:19:21,150 then it's gonna be cool 'cause all the artists 401 00:19:21,269 --> 00:19:22,360 are gonna be there. 402 00:19:22,478 --> 00:19:24,862 BRENDAN (V.O.): You could walk across Queen Street 403 00:19:24,981 --> 00:19:26,030 on a Thursday night 404 00:19:26,149 --> 00:19:28,199 when there'd be a new show opening up. 405 00:19:28,317 --> 00:19:30,192 It was just-- it was very vibrant. 406 00:19:30,212 --> 00:19:32,570 And also very innocent and really creative. 407 00:19:32,631 --> 00:19:33,863 -Hey, Kevvy! 408 00:19:33,940 --> 00:19:36,549 BRENDAN (V.O.): Just felt like you could do your own thing. 409 00:19:36,709 --> 00:19:38,117 At least, it did for us. 410 00:19:38,278 --> 00:19:40,353 -We were all kind of doing weird things 411 00:19:40,347 --> 00:19:43,080 with whatever venues we could find in Toronto. 412 00:19:43,141 --> 00:19:46,275 We kind of also wanted, I think, to be in these unusual settings 413 00:19:46,228 --> 00:19:48,085 'cause we were weirdos. 414 00:19:48,246 --> 00:19:51,106 [crowd cheering] 415 00:19:51,224 --> 00:19:52,615 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): We were basically broke 416 00:19:52,567 --> 00:19:55,293 but we went to see shows all the time. 417 00:19:55,278 --> 00:19:58,621 YVONNE (V.O.): Ted's was looking for a new booker, 418 00:19:58,739 --> 00:20:02,826 so he asked me if I could come and weave my magic there. 419 00:20:02,944 --> 00:20:07,880 I gave Jonny Dovercourt his Wavelength Sunday nights. 420 00:20:07,874 --> 00:20:10,875 That was the start of all the interesting stuff 421 00:20:10,994 --> 00:20:13,169 that was going to go on there. 422 00:20:13,288 --> 00:20:14,537 BRENDAN (V.O.): The Wavelength guys, 423 00:20:14,655 --> 00:20:17,966 they were keeping the spark of indie rock alive. 424 00:20:18,084 --> 00:20:20,251 EVAN (V.O.): Ted's Wrecking Yard upstairs, 425 00:20:20,411 --> 00:20:23,363 which ended up being the BSS clubhouse. [chuckles] 426 00:20:23,390 --> 00:20:26,457 If we weren't playing there, we were there watching shows. 427 00:20:26,476 --> 00:20:29,227 That was an important venue. 428 00:20:29,345 --> 00:20:31,371 KEVIN (V.O.): Everyone was supporting each other. 429 00:20:31,398 --> 00:20:33,931 You just suddenly found that there was a way 430 00:20:34,050 --> 00:20:36,267 that you could connect everyone. 431 00:20:36,385 --> 00:20:40,288 There wasn't a competition to stop each other. 432 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,241 [crowd cheering] 433 00:20:49,357 --> 00:20:50,790 KEVIN: What are ya gonna do? 434 00:20:52,961 --> 00:20:53,877 Any time... 435 00:20:55,088 --> 00:20:57,221 -Oh my God! 436 00:20:57,215 --> 00:20:58,456 Yes! 437 00:20:58,616 --> 00:21:00,458 -We need to spread some love. 438 00:21:00,576 --> 00:21:02,794 What are you gonna do? 439 00:21:02,954 --> 00:21:04,946 -I'm gonna do the... 95! 440 00:21:04,931 --> 00:21:06,964 [crowd cheering] 441 00:21:07,124 --> 00:21:09,542 EVAN: Justin Peroff! 442 00:21:09,436 --> 00:21:10,709 -I'm gonna do the 95! 443 00:21:10,771 --> 00:21:11,969 [crowd cheering] 444 00:21:12,129 --> 00:21:17,791 [indistinct voices] 445 00:21:17,611 --> 00:21:20,378 -I remember there being a lot more people there. 446 00:21:20,405 --> 00:21:23,631 [band playing] 447 00:21:23,617 --> 00:21:27,518 ♪ 448 00:21:27,579 --> 00:21:31,981 ♪ 449 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,409 ♪ 450 00:21:35,528 --> 00:21:39,005 ♪ 451 00:21:39,165 --> 00:21:43,826 ♪ 452 00:21:43,845 --> 00:21:47,705 ♪ 453 00:21:47,766 --> 00:21:52,018 ♪ 454 00:21:52,178 --> 00:21:55,330 ♪ 455 00:21:55,315 --> 00:21:57,915 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): It wasn't like a normal band. 456 00:21:57,901 --> 00:22:01,102 Most of the players were all songwriters 457 00:22:01,220 --> 00:22:03,363 and had solo careers. 458 00:22:03,523 --> 00:22:06,966 -I remember there being a conversation of a conceptual, 459 00:22:06,993 --> 00:22:10,661 "Let's play once a month and write the songs for the shows." 460 00:22:10,580 --> 00:22:13,122 -One, two, three, four! 461 00:22:13,241 --> 00:22:16,117 ♪ 462 00:22:16,235 --> 00:22:20,104 ♪ 463 00:22:20,090 --> 00:22:23,941 ♪ 464 00:22:23,969 --> 00:22:27,528 ♪ 465 00:22:27,514 --> 00:22:30,531 ♪ 466 00:22:30,517 --> 00:22:32,992 ♪ 467 00:22:33,019 --> 00:22:35,478 CHARLIE (V.O.): For me, it was this great freedom 468 00:22:35,597 --> 00:22:38,489 of not pretending to be a thing. 469 00:22:38,483 --> 00:22:40,458 Like, this is just people playing music, right? 470 00:22:40,576 --> 00:22:41,626 It's playing music together. 471 00:22:41,611 --> 00:22:43,160 Like, we're gonna make new songs. 472 00:22:43,154 --> 00:22:44,462 We're gonna have new people. 473 00:22:44,447 --> 00:22:46,747 There's no goal. 474 00:22:46,700 --> 00:22:49,050 JOHN (V.O.): I would miss a practice for Social Scene, 475 00:22:49,035 --> 00:22:52,245 and then I would show up at a gig and Kevin would be like, 476 00:22:52,405 --> 00:22:54,714 "We wrote three songs!" you know? [laughs] 477 00:22:54,708 --> 00:22:56,090 LESLIE (V.O.): Those early jams, 478 00:22:56,042 --> 00:22:59,143 I remember just feeling like the storm was gathering. 479 00:22:59,129 --> 00:23:00,253 [applause and cheering] 480 00:23:00,413 --> 00:23:01,829 KEVIN: It's been nice, ladies and gentlemen. 481 00:23:01,947 --> 00:23:02,663 Thank you very much. 482 00:23:02,782 --> 00:23:04,239 Andrew Whiteman, Charles Spearin, 483 00:23:04,259 --> 00:23:05,483 Brendan Canning, 484 00:23:05,468 --> 00:23:08,027 John Crossingham, Justin Peroff. 485 00:23:08,054 --> 00:23:09,119 And Kevin Drew! 486 00:23:09,180 --> 00:23:10,588 KEVIN: And Kevin Drew. 487 00:23:10,706 --> 00:23:12,957 That's all for you tonight, limited edition. 488 00:23:13,018 --> 00:23:14,275 GEORGE: It's like, fuck, man. 489 00:23:14,227 --> 00:23:15,760 I was hoping someone would videotape this 490 00:23:15,878 --> 00:23:17,996 so we could watch it when we're, like, 70. 491 00:23:18,023 --> 00:23:20,297 KEVIN: I want to welcome our friend, our love, 492 00:23:20,191 --> 00:23:21,256 Miss Emily Haines. 493 00:23:21,276 --> 00:23:22,667 [crowd cheering] 494 00:23:22,652 --> 00:23:25,111 -I also want to welcome to the stage at this time, 495 00:23:25,271 --> 00:23:26,428 Mr. James Shaw. 496 00:23:26,281 --> 00:23:27,839 [crowd cheering] 497 00:23:27,824 --> 00:23:30,383 -♪ Park that car, drop that phone ♪ 498 00:23:30,410 --> 00:23:33,461 ♪ Sleep on the floor, dream about me ♪ 499 00:23:33,413 --> 00:23:36,539 ♪ Park that car, drop that phone ♪ 500 00:23:36,658 --> 00:23:40,701 ♪ Sleep on the floor, dream about me ♪ 501 00:23:40,820 --> 00:23:42,945 JIMMY (V.O.): Someone called a meeting and was like, 502 00:23:42,964 --> 00:23:45,523 "We gotta go talk about the fact that these shows happen 503 00:23:45,508 --> 00:23:46,916 "and they were really great. 504 00:23:46,801 --> 00:23:48,809 "Let's, like, make a record or something." 505 00:23:48,762 --> 00:23:50,553 And I think Kevin was like, 506 00:23:50,672 --> 00:23:52,830 "Yeah, let's do it. Let's make this a thing." 507 00:23:52,891 --> 00:23:55,600 In my memory, that was the moment that it kind of, like, 508 00:23:55,718 --> 00:23:57,969 it turned from, like, a thing that just happened 509 00:23:58,129 --> 00:24:01,171 to a thing that then we decided to make happen. 510 00:24:01,191 --> 00:24:02,631 KEVIN: Here we go! 511 00:24:02,651 --> 00:24:07,153 [crowd cheering, band playing] 512 00:24:07,313 --> 00:24:11,758 ♪ I know you're dyin', baby, I know it's good, yeah ♪ 513 00:24:11,785 --> 00:24:15,595 ♪ And I know there's 360 things you'd rather be doin' ♪ 514 00:24:15,622 --> 00:24:20,574 ♪ But you fuck what you love 515 00:24:20,693 --> 00:24:24,094 and you love what you fuck ♪ 516 00:24:24,089 --> 00:24:25,838 CHARLIE (V.O.): It started with us looking for 517 00:24:25,998 --> 00:24:28,265 a recording studio that was affordable. 518 00:24:28,259 --> 00:24:30,760 We really didn't have much money. 519 00:24:30,878 --> 00:24:32,837 I had some money 'cause I was touring 520 00:24:32,955 --> 00:24:35,264 with Franklin the Turtle at the time. 521 00:24:35,383 --> 00:24:37,508 Everybody pitched in. 522 00:24:37,626 --> 00:24:39,952 We just needed some place that was cheap. 523 00:24:39,980 --> 00:24:43,456 ♪ 524 00:24:43,483 --> 00:24:45,108 [band stops playing] 525 00:24:47,270 --> 00:24:49,087 BAND MEMBER: Thank you! Goodnight! 526 00:24:49,205 --> 00:24:52,340 ♪ 527 00:24:52,458 --> 00:24:55,026 ♪ 528 00:24:55,186 --> 00:24:57,512 ♪ 529 00:24:57,497 --> 00:24:59,505 DAVE (V.O.): I wanted to make great records, 530 00:24:59,499 --> 00:25:01,065 but I did not have high hopes. 531 00:25:01,126 --> 00:25:04,002 I was just hoping that I wouldn't fucking go bankrupt! 532 00:25:06,205 --> 00:25:08,940 I'm just hoping to, like, make, like, 1,500 a month 533 00:25:08,967 --> 00:25:11,217 just to cover rent, kind of thing. 534 00:25:15,331 --> 00:25:18,749 DAVE (V.O.): I knew I've got one of the top bands in the city. 535 00:25:18,810 --> 00:25:21,719 These guys got somethin' real special on their own without me, 536 00:25:21,837 --> 00:25:24,455 so I'd love to be able to, like, bring my thing in 537 00:25:24,441 --> 00:25:26,715 to that as well. 538 00:25:26,735 --> 00:25:28,476 I just felt like, "I'm at that level," 539 00:25:28,594 --> 00:25:29,961 or, "I'll get to that level, 540 00:25:29,946 --> 00:25:31,996 "so then we'll both bring each other up." 541 00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:33,055 -Like Dada? 542 00:25:33,174 --> 00:25:35,232 -No, no, no, there was a band called Dada. 543 00:25:35,351 --> 00:25:37,677 DAVE (V.O.): He calls me because they thought they're gonna 544 00:25:37,704 --> 00:25:40,270 go into the place with, like, a big room and a couch 545 00:25:40,331 --> 00:25:41,572 and all that shit. 546 00:25:41,690 --> 00:25:44,274 I was sitting there in that dirty kitchen and you said, 547 00:25:44,294 --> 00:25:45,242 "What do you charge?" 548 00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:47,386 And I was like, "Boy, they're gonna probably 549 00:25:47,380 --> 00:25:49,038 "come in for maybe two weeks. 550 00:25:49,156 --> 00:25:50,890 "I'll make, like, a thousand bucks or somethin'. 551 00:25:50,884 --> 00:25:52,316 "I need the money!" [laughs] 552 00:25:52,343 --> 00:25:54,993 So, I'm like, "150 bucks a day?" 553 00:25:55,155 --> 00:25:57,555 And there's, like, about a 45-second pause, 554 00:25:57,673 --> 00:25:59,081 and then Kevin comes back, 555 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,409 "Well, why don't we just book, like, five weeks?" 556 00:26:01,394 --> 00:26:04,812 [laughter] 557 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,933 DAVE (V.O.): Just before they came in, 558 00:26:09,093 --> 00:26:11,711 a friend of mine said, "You need a proper patch bay," 559 00:26:11,738 --> 00:26:14,697 and so I ended up going down a patch bay rabbit hole. 560 00:26:18,536 --> 00:26:21,829 -Did you get some good drum, Canning? 561 00:26:24,250 --> 00:26:26,117 DAVE (V.O.): The gear is kind of working, 562 00:26:26,235 --> 00:26:28,861 but then it started on fire and smoking out of the back. 563 00:26:28,922 --> 00:26:30,588 It's like, "Whoa, unplug that!" 564 00:26:31,966 --> 00:26:35,092 [drumming] 565 00:26:36,429 --> 00:26:37,995 BAND MEMBER: Is that good? 566 00:26:38,056 --> 00:26:40,798 [piano playing] 567 00:26:40,958 --> 00:26:44,685 DAVE (V.O.): Oh my God, here I got the patch bay, you know, 568 00:26:44,804 --> 00:26:47,355 and I got the new board, and I was so excited. 569 00:26:47,473 --> 00:26:49,207 And it's just all falling to shit. 570 00:26:49,367 --> 00:26:51,408 BAND MEMBER: Chung, turn off the camera. 571 00:26:51,402 --> 00:26:52,743 Don't put pressure on Dave 572 00:26:52,737 --> 00:26:54,821 to try to find the feedback, okay? 573 00:26:54,981 --> 00:26:56,664 Kill the camera, Chung! 574 00:26:56,616 --> 00:26:58,991 [Jason laughing] 575 00:27:06,626 --> 00:27:08,876 -Wassap! 576 00:27:08,995 --> 00:27:11,003 Euh! 577 00:27:33,278 --> 00:27:34,919 -Wow. 578 00:27:34,946 --> 00:27:36,478 That's the beginning. 579 00:27:36,597 --> 00:27:38,430 That's amazing. 580 00:27:38,491 --> 00:27:41,192 Watching myself walk into a portal. 581 00:27:41,077 --> 00:27:45,454 It changed all of our lives, straight up. 582 00:27:45,573 --> 00:27:46,914 I had no idea at the time. 583 00:27:47,033 --> 00:27:50,209 [bass riff from "Stars and Sons" playing] 584 00:27:52,738 --> 00:27:54,196 DAVE (V.O.): So, Charlie, he started playing. 585 00:27:54,215 --> 00:27:56,290 He's just monkeying around and he kept playing it 586 00:27:56,408 --> 00:27:58,909 over and over 'cause he liked what he was doing 587 00:27:58,970 --> 00:28:03,622 and he kept expanding the [humming riff]. 588 00:28:03,516 --> 00:28:05,290 So that kept him occupied. 589 00:28:05,351 --> 00:28:11,063 ♪ 590 00:28:11,223 --> 00:28:12,823 DAVE (V.O.): I remember Kevin said, 591 00:28:12,817 --> 00:28:15,976 "Justin, oh, here's a drum beat that you should try!" 592 00:28:16,095 --> 00:28:20,339 [drumming begins along with bass riff] 593 00:28:20,366 --> 00:28:24,327 ♪ 594 00:28:24,445 --> 00:28:26,904 DAVE (V.O.): Later that night, we were listening to it, 595 00:28:27,022 --> 00:28:28,681 and then that's when Brendan was mumbling, 596 00:28:28,708 --> 00:28:30,975 and I'm like, "Oh, go in there and try it." 597 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,827 I said, "Brendan has an idea he wants to try." 598 00:28:33,946 --> 00:28:35,278 I knew he wouldn't normally do it, 599 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,739 but they had just met me so I could, like, 600 00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:39,908 make a bold thing like that and they wouldn't, like, 601 00:28:39,928 --> 00:28:41,510 just go, "Oh, okay..." 602 00:28:41,629 --> 00:28:45,348 ["Stars and Sons" by Broken Social Scene] 603 00:28:45,466 --> 00:28:50,944 ♪ Then when you let it ♪ 604 00:28:50,897 --> 00:28:53,197 ♪ You asked for nothing ♪ 605 00:28:53,191 --> 00:28:55,274 ♪ Why don't you share it? ♪ 606 00:28:55,434 --> 00:28:58,427 ♪ 607 00:28:58,446 --> 00:29:00,187 ♪ All of the time you live... ♪ 608 00:29:00,305 --> 00:29:02,273 CHARLIE (V.O.): But we ended up using that take! 609 00:29:02,391 --> 00:29:04,775 DAVE (V.O.): That is what you hear on that record. 610 00:29:04,893 --> 00:29:05,885 That's his first attempt. 611 00:29:05,912 --> 00:29:06,944 CHARLIE (V.O.): It is. 612 00:29:07,062 --> 00:29:08,888 Charlie taught me accidents are amazing, 613 00:29:08,915 --> 00:29:11,540 but you taught me that the vibe is usually 614 00:29:11,659 --> 00:29:12,866 while you're finding it. 615 00:29:12,985 --> 00:29:14,952 DAVE (V.O.): The session where the person's, like, 616 00:29:15,112 --> 00:29:17,246 still exploring and discovering the song, 617 00:29:17,364 --> 00:29:19,965 there's some little nanoseconds of the playing or something 618 00:29:19,926 --> 00:29:23,052 that's being expressed that's more exciting. 619 00:29:23,170 --> 00:29:26,130 ♪ 620 00:29:26,248 --> 00:29:28,299 -Let's do it again. I need a... 621 00:29:28,417 --> 00:29:30,059 CHARLIE (V.O.): I don't think Kevin played anything 622 00:29:30,177 --> 00:29:31,894 for the first half of the song, 623 00:29:32,013 --> 00:29:34,463 and then he comes in with 624 00:29:34,482 --> 00:29:37,566 this microphone going through a guitar amp, screaming, 625 00:29:37,685 --> 00:29:38,859 "You forgot it in people! 626 00:29:38,978 --> 00:29:41,420 "You forgot it in people! You forgot it in people!" 627 00:29:41,580 --> 00:29:43,255 That's where the album title comes from. 628 00:29:43,283 --> 00:29:45,908 ♪ 629 00:29:46,027 --> 00:29:48,185 [with amp distortion] ♪ You forgot it in people! ♪ 630 00:29:48,246 --> 00:29:51,038 ♪ You forgot it in people! ♪ 631 00:29:52,792 --> 00:29:55,551 -[in falsetto] ♪ You forgot it in people... ♪ 632 00:29:55,503 --> 00:29:56,727 Nobody knows that. 633 00:29:56,754 --> 00:29:58,637 I don't think anybody can pick it out. 634 00:29:58,631 --> 00:29:59,563 Maybe somebody did. 635 00:29:59,549 --> 00:30:01,490 ♪ 636 00:30:01,509 --> 00:30:02,583 ♪ 637 00:30:02,701 --> 00:30:05,018 CHARLIE (V.O.): He played it to me the next morning 638 00:30:04,971 --> 00:30:06,186 and I was like, 639 00:30:06,139 --> 00:30:07,855 "Don't change it! It's amazing!" 640 00:30:07,807 --> 00:30:09,223 BRENDAN (V.O.): He just said, "My boys!" 641 00:30:09,342 --> 00:30:12,158 and he had, like, a hand on mine and Kevin's back, 642 00:30:11,978 --> 00:30:13,327 like we hit something good. 643 00:30:13,313 --> 00:30:17,164 ♪ 644 00:30:17,283 --> 00:30:20,884 ♪ 645 00:30:21,045 --> 00:30:24,012 ♪ All the time you live ♪ 646 00:30:24,032 --> 00:30:28,058 ♪ There's something out there ♪ 647 00:30:28,119 --> 00:30:31,137 DAVE (V.O.): It just happened because it happened, you know? 648 00:30:31,164 --> 00:30:33,397 We had now this new, fresh tune. 649 00:30:33,458 --> 00:30:36,950 It suddenly made it seem like this is a redeeming experience, 650 00:30:37,069 --> 00:30:39,286 or that maybe this isn't all lost. 651 00:30:39,404 --> 00:30:41,138 [clapping] 652 00:30:41,132 --> 00:30:43,474 DAVE (V.O.): And then it just got better and better. 653 00:30:43,468 --> 00:30:45,718 [band cheering] 654 00:30:45,878 --> 00:30:48,379 -Dave, tell me you recorded that! 655 00:30:48,497 --> 00:30:50,197 [laughter] 656 00:30:50,183 --> 00:30:51,507 ♪ 657 00:30:51,625 --> 00:30:53,717 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): The pervading spirit of 658 00:30:53,836 --> 00:30:56,470 "Stars and Sons" was Newfeld. 659 00:30:56,588 --> 00:30:58,972 EVAN (V.O.): The way he could take everyone's personalities 660 00:30:59,091 --> 00:31:01,883 and make it sound whole... 661 00:31:02,003 --> 00:31:05,813 He's a scientist. 662 00:31:05,931 --> 00:31:07,623 He used the studio as an instrument. 663 00:31:07,575 --> 00:31:09,658 He would, like, ride it, not like an instrument, 664 00:31:09,777 --> 00:31:11,327 ride it like a piece of machinery 665 00:31:11,445 --> 00:31:12,845 that he wanted to kill. 666 00:31:12,872 --> 00:31:14,680 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): There's no other like him. 667 00:31:14,707 --> 00:31:15,906 An absolute original. 668 00:31:16,024 --> 00:31:17,941 He internalized and made it painful 669 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,735 in how badly he wanted our records to sound 670 00:31:20,755 --> 00:31:22,213 the best that they could. 671 00:31:24,583 --> 00:31:27,784 DAVE (V.O.): It became really clear very early 672 00:31:27,845 --> 00:31:30,771 that you can't have everyone 673 00:31:30,723 --> 00:31:36,368 constantly having input and the same amount of, like, 674 00:31:36,396 --> 00:31:41,023 jurisdiction or involvement in the record-making process. 675 00:31:41,142 --> 00:31:44,567 Later at night, it was a little easier 676 00:31:44,487 --> 00:31:47,029 to maybe think about it or-- you know what I mean? 677 00:31:47,148 --> 00:31:50,049 To see it from a different perspective. 678 00:31:50,076 --> 00:31:51,759 We felt at ease with each other's presence, 679 00:31:51,744 --> 00:31:54,278 and the same thing with you coming in with the camera. 680 00:31:54,438 --> 00:31:57,130 -I mean, how many times were we recording and we look over, 681 00:31:57,083 --> 00:31:59,316 Stevie's in the corner of the room, behind a plant, 682 00:31:59,377 --> 00:32:03,220 and has a mirror and he's shooting my reflection! 683 00:32:03,214 --> 00:32:04,221 -Wicked. 684 00:32:04,215 --> 00:32:08,025 -Right now, we're battin' a 10-song record, 685 00:32:08,052 --> 00:32:11,144 with this song in two parts, making it 11. 686 00:32:11,097 --> 00:32:13,055 -♪ Stevie won't leave me alone! ♪ 687 00:32:13,174 --> 00:32:15,032 -That doesn't include, Mama doesn't like it 688 00:32:15,017 --> 00:32:17,801 when you go downstairs. 689 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,471 ♪ Stevie won't leave me alone. ♪ 690 00:32:20,589 --> 00:32:23,323 ♪ Oh, Stevie... ♪ 691 00:32:23,442 --> 00:32:27,302 ♪ Always with your fuckin' camera! ♪ 692 00:32:27,321 --> 00:32:30,923 ♪ Always through the leaves... ♪ 693 00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:32,332 STEPHEN (V.O.): If you're already rolling, 694 00:32:32,285 --> 00:32:34,076 people don't-- they forget that you're there, 695 00:32:34,195 --> 00:32:36,837 and then natural stuff kind of happens. 696 00:32:36,789 --> 00:32:40,324 It's a really fine art to go in and be part of somebody's life 697 00:32:40,442 --> 00:32:42,025 without interfering with something special 698 00:32:42,086 --> 00:32:43,769 that's happening. 699 00:32:43,796 --> 00:32:48,065 [playing drums] 700 00:32:48,225 --> 00:32:50,867 [guitar joins in] 701 00:32:50,887 --> 00:32:53,629 ♪ 702 00:32:53,747 --> 00:32:55,339 -One more time. Let's slow down. 703 00:32:55,266 --> 00:32:56,574 KEVIN: Keep that bit in. 704 00:32:56,734 --> 00:32:57,858 Oh, it's in A. 705 00:32:57,976 --> 00:32:59,618 -No, the B string. The B string. 706 00:32:59,645 --> 00:33:02,696 [guitar tuning] 707 00:33:02,814 --> 00:33:04,172 -Play the whole D chord, buddy? 708 00:33:04,192 --> 00:33:05,916 [guitar plays D chord] 709 00:33:05,902 --> 00:33:07,592 -It's goin' down now. 710 00:33:07,653 --> 00:33:10,103 [guitar tuning] 711 00:33:10,222 --> 00:33:11,705 JUSTIN (V.O.): I was in the room, 712 00:33:11,657 --> 00:33:14,633 but I wasn't in the room, if you know what I mean. 713 00:33:14,660 --> 00:33:16,118 Like, I was in the drum booth, 714 00:33:16,237 --> 00:33:18,621 so I couldn't always hear the conversation that was happening. 715 00:33:18,739 --> 00:33:21,882 -It's getting hot in here. -Let's get it hotter. 716 00:33:21,834 --> 00:33:23,700 JUSTIN (V.O.) I remember the first version 717 00:33:23,628 --> 00:33:24,693 of "Almost Crimes." 718 00:33:24,712 --> 00:33:25,936 It wasn't called "Almost Crimes." 719 00:33:25,922 --> 00:33:27,713 It was called, like, "The Dinosaur Jr. Song," 720 00:33:27,873 --> 00:33:30,024 'cause the original version of that sounds exactly like 721 00:33:30,009 --> 00:33:31,775 a Dinosaur Jr. song. 722 00:33:31,761 --> 00:33:33,877 -[indistinct lyrics] 723 00:33:33,996 --> 00:33:37,364 ♪ 724 00:33:37,350 --> 00:33:41,218 ♪ 725 00:33:41,336 --> 00:33:44,772 ♪ 726 00:33:44,890 --> 00:33:48,475 ♪ 727 00:33:48,593 --> 00:33:51,645 ♪ 728 00:33:51,763 --> 00:33:53,656 ♪ 729 00:34:22,687 --> 00:34:23,777 -[laughs] 730 00:34:23,729 --> 00:34:26,605 STEPHEN: So, what does that remind you of? 731 00:34:28,901 --> 00:34:33,662 -My role in that band was defined in that moment. 732 00:34:33,614 --> 00:34:37,257 You know, it's like, I'm just yellin' at everybody; 733 00:34:37,243 --> 00:34:39,267 I'm like, "No, man, that's not fuckin' good. 734 00:34:39,387 --> 00:34:40,911 "No, gotta do this, gotta do this." 735 00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:42,721 Like, the song was too fuckin' long. 736 00:34:42,748 --> 00:34:43,872 "Let's go. Let's cut it. 737 00:34:43,991 --> 00:34:45,449 "Let's make this fuckin' thing happen." 738 00:34:45,567 --> 00:34:48,544 And Kev's like, "Okay, everyone's gotta be chill, man." 739 00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:57,861 [guitar playing] 740 00:34:57,888 --> 00:35:00,664 ♪ 741 00:35:00,725 --> 00:35:03,892 [drumming begins] 742 00:35:04,011 --> 00:35:07,146 ♪ 743 00:35:07,306 --> 00:35:08,747 DAVE: Is that the chorus? 744 00:35:08,774 --> 00:35:10,557 ♪ 745 00:35:10,675 --> 00:35:12,842 [bass begins] 746 00:35:12,903 --> 00:35:16,647 ♪ 747 00:35:16,765 --> 00:35:20,534 ♪ 748 00:35:37,845 --> 00:35:40,537 JIMMY (V.O.): Cranley likes to be adjacent to the spotlight, 749 00:35:40,431 --> 00:35:43,173 and he'll make sure that the person in the spotlight 750 00:35:43,291 --> 00:35:45,934 sounds fantastic by what he does musically. 751 00:35:46,053 --> 00:35:49,713 Like, he made up an instrument: two-stringed guitar, two-tar. 752 00:35:49,565 --> 00:35:52,282 Because there's four other dudes playing a six-string guitar. 753 00:35:52,276 --> 00:35:54,509 That's the most Cranley thing ever. 754 00:35:54,528 --> 00:35:55,694 ♪ 755 00:35:55,854 --> 00:35:57,655 -Oh, yeah, yeah. 756 00:35:59,825 --> 00:36:01,708 -That sounded pretty cool, eh? 757 00:36:01,661 --> 00:36:02,826 -Yeah, yeah. 758 00:36:04,479 --> 00:36:07,706 -Oh, shit! That was a moment! 759 00:36:16,074 --> 00:36:18,258 -[humming] 760 00:36:21,347 --> 00:36:23,514 -Well-oh-ah-oh! 761 00:36:27,186 --> 00:36:29,736 -♪ Well, I told you, I told you, I told you ♪ 762 00:36:29,689 --> 00:36:32,397 ♪ I told you I wouldn't do it once ♪ 763 00:36:32,358 --> 00:36:34,732 [in low voice] ♪ But I'm gonna do it twice. ♪ 764 00:36:34,694 --> 00:36:36,735 -Of course, then when Feist came in 765 00:36:36,895 --> 00:36:38,478 and heard what you had done 766 00:36:38,364 --> 00:36:40,823 and added her part, then it was just like... 767 00:36:40,941 --> 00:36:42,966 signed, sealed, and delivered! 768 00:36:42,952 --> 00:36:44,676 -♪ I told you! ♪ 769 00:36:44,704 --> 00:36:47,913 [indistinct lyrics] 770 00:36:48,073 --> 00:36:49,681 ♪ I told you! ♪ 771 00:36:49,709 --> 00:36:51,183 [indistinct lyrics] 772 00:36:51,210 --> 00:36:52,275 ♪ Waited! ♪ 773 00:36:52,336 --> 00:36:54,611 ♪ I waited, waited, oh-ho! ♪ 774 00:36:54,672 --> 00:36:57,914 ♪ 775 00:36:58,033 --> 00:37:01,785 ♪ 776 00:37:01,846 --> 00:37:05,514 ♪ 777 00:37:05,632 --> 00:37:09,459 ♪ 778 00:37:09,578 --> 00:37:11,520 ♪ 779 00:37:11,638 --> 00:37:13,397 [crowd cheering] 780 00:37:15,443 --> 00:37:18,502 ["Almost Crimes" by Broken Social Scene] 781 00:37:18,620 --> 00:37:22,673 ♪ 782 00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:25,975 ♪ 783 00:37:26,036 --> 00:37:29,054 ♪ 784 00:37:29,081 --> 00:37:30,722 ♪ 785 00:37:30,750 --> 00:37:33,049 -The Afton aesthetic and the 95 aesthetic 786 00:37:33,043 --> 00:37:34,467 kind of met here. 787 00:37:34,420 --> 00:37:38,488 -So with the synths, and the vocals, the saxophone, 788 00:37:38,549 --> 00:37:40,007 it started to feel like something 789 00:37:40,125 --> 00:37:41,583 that had its own identity. 790 00:37:41,701 --> 00:37:43,701 There's a sort of now-ness to it. 791 00:37:43,863 --> 00:37:46,963 We're living it. This is what we do. 792 00:37:47,082 --> 00:37:52,394 ♪ We've got love and hate, it's the only way ♪ 793 00:37:52,513 --> 00:37:55,505 ♪ 794 00:37:55,399 --> 00:37:58,725 -♪ I think it's almost... ♪ 795 00:37:58,843 --> 00:38:01,978 -♪ Crime! ♪ 796 00:38:02,097 --> 00:38:03,847 ♪ 797 00:38:03,908 --> 00:38:06,399 ♪ 798 00:38:06,518 --> 00:38:09,894 -♪ I think it's almost... ♪ 799 00:38:09,955 --> 00:38:11,396 ♪ Crime... ♪ 800 00:38:11,457 --> 00:38:13,916 CHARLIE (V.O.): But then You Forgot it in People came out 801 00:38:14,034 --> 00:38:15,817 and we had to be a normal band. 802 00:38:15,836 --> 00:38:17,077 Like, we had to tour. 803 00:38:17,195 --> 00:38:21,197 -♪ I think it's almost crime. ♪ 804 00:38:21,217 --> 00:38:23,099 BRENDAN: Should do that again! 805 00:38:23,093 --> 00:38:25,010 [harmonica playing] 806 00:38:40,653 --> 00:38:42,419 BRENDAN (V.O.): Soundscapes was in line with 807 00:38:42,537 --> 00:38:44,220 something like Wavelength. 808 00:38:44,381 --> 00:38:45,888 You know, keeping music alive. 809 00:38:45,950 --> 00:38:49,584 -Social Scene, and specifically You Forgot it in People, 810 00:38:49,537 --> 00:38:52,420 was the type of record that was, you know, 811 00:38:52,373 --> 00:38:54,331 musically quite transformative, 812 00:38:54,449 --> 00:38:59,044 but did not fit in any traditional commercial box. 813 00:38:59,204 --> 00:39:00,337 -This one's for Soundscapes. 814 00:39:00,455 --> 00:39:02,180 Thank you very, very much, guys. 815 00:39:02,174 --> 00:39:04,441 Thank you very, very, very, very much. 816 00:39:04,601 --> 00:39:06,376 [applause and cheering] 817 00:39:06,494 --> 00:39:08,111 ["Stars and Sons" by Broken Social Scene] 818 00:39:08,138 --> 00:39:09,304 -Oh my God, Crossingham. 819 00:39:09,423 --> 00:39:11,106 Is that Millan back there? 820 00:39:11,224 --> 00:39:13,049 -Yeah. -Little cutie. 821 00:39:13,168 --> 00:39:14,918 ♪ 822 00:39:14,979 --> 00:39:19,623 -♪ And in the red room at a distance... ♪ 823 00:39:19,650 --> 00:39:23,092 ♪ 824 00:39:23,153 --> 00:39:25,362 ♪ How would you know it? ♪ 825 00:39:26,365 --> 00:39:28,123 -Chewing gum! 826 00:39:28,075 --> 00:39:29,549 Terrible! 827 00:39:29,535 --> 00:39:31,768 -You're just like, "I don't even care what I'm singing." 828 00:39:31,829 --> 00:39:33,787 -"I don't even care, I'm just chewing gum, 829 00:39:33,906 --> 00:39:35,104 "I got a scarf on." 830 00:39:35,165 --> 00:39:37,707 Good tempo of the song, though. 831 00:39:37,626 --> 00:39:42,913 -♪ This one will know how far to live on... ♪ 832 00:39:43,073 --> 00:39:45,140 LESLIE (V.O.): Am I here? 833 00:39:45,092 --> 00:39:46,224 -No. -Maybe not. 834 00:39:46,218 --> 00:39:48,610 -No, no. -But then, who did, [clapping]? 835 00:39:48,596 --> 00:39:50,103 ♪ 836 00:39:50,221 --> 00:39:53,256 KEVIN: We need some audience participation over here! 837 00:39:53,375 --> 00:39:58,020 [all clapping to beat] 838 00:39:58,138 --> 00:40:00,897 ♪ 839 00:40:23,797 --> 00:40:26,423 LESLIE: He... I don't know, is that Now? 840 00:40:28,552 --> 00:40:30,159 BAND MEMBER: Are we gonna play tomorrow? 841 00:40:30,220 --> 00:40:31,795 KEVIN: You're not out, are you? 842 00:40:31,913 --> 00:40:33,997 BAND MEMBER: Yeah, I'm gonna take my shit to [inaudible]. 843 00:40:34,058 --> 00:40:36,165 KEVIN: And are you gonna come back, or what? 844 00:40:36,226 --> 00:40:37,333 -It's 4:30 or something. 845 00:40:37,394 --> 00:40:39,227 -It's 4. We're still jamming today. 846 00:40:39,346 --> 00:40:40,720 -And we need to jam tomorrow, too. 847 00:40:40,839 --> 00:40:42,372 -And we need to jam tomorrow? 848 00:40:42,358 --> 00:40:43,874 Wha... Wait a second. What the fuck? 849 00:40:43,859 --> 00:40:46,059 I thought you were whipping over there and whipping back. 850 00:40:46,177 --> 00:40:47,135 -Okay. 851 00:40:47,212 --> 00:40:49,729 -We still have tons of shit to do, do we not? 852 00:40:49,848 --> 00:40:52,649 -♪ There's love in the air! ♪ 853 00:40:52,767 --> 00:40:55,184 KEVIN (V.O.): I remember being very... 854 00:40:55,245 --> 00:40:57,395 just wanting it to happen so badly, 855 00:40:57,456 --> 00:40:59,623 wanting to make the record, wanting to rehearse. 856 00:40:59,741 --> 00:41:02,059 I was always on top of everybody. 857 00:41:02,086 --> 00:41:04,828 I think I was very annoying. 858 00:41:04,713 --> 00:41:07,488 BRENDAN (V.O.): Kev's obviously a massive glue factor 859 00:41:07,341 --> 00:41:08,932 for the group because, you know, 860 00:41:08,926 --> 00:41:12,160 it's like it started off in his basement. 861 00:41:12,012 --> 00:41:14,321 -And I feel like leading, he was the leader, 862 00:41:14,306 --> 00:41:16,114 even though he wasn't, but he was. 863 00:41:16,141 --> 00:41:18,008 You know, he absolutely was. 864 00:41:18,126 --> 00:41:20,602 KEVIN (V.O.): We had the right chemistry, 865 00:41:20,721 --> 00:41:23,838 especially with Brendan and Jason Collett and Leslie. 866 00:41:23,857 --> 00:41:26,282 Like, people that had been doing it for so long, 867 00:41:26,276 --> 00:41:29,218 and we had a nice parallel of people that had been there 868 00:41:29,279 --> 00:41:33,031 and done it and those who were eager to just get started. 869 00:41:33,191 --> 00:41:35,692 JUSTIN: And then we did a song called "Build." 870 00:41:35,852 --> 00:41:38,028 ♪ Build, you've got to learn how to build. ♪ 871 00:41:38,188 --> 00:41:39,838 -[laughter] -[scatting] 872 00:41:39,832 --> 00:41:42,190 JUSTIN: ♪ You've got to change, change and build! ♪ 873 00:41:42,309 --> 00:41:43,542 [laughter] 874 00:41:45,295 --> 00:41:49,423 [indistinct conversation] 875 00:42:00,001 --> 00:42:05,105 -Circus of Sour...! -[laughter] 876 00:42:06,817 --> 00:42:09,458 ANDREW: And the covers. The covers! [indistinct]. 877 00:42:09,319 --> 00:42:10,861 Have you ever seen Shrek? 878 00:42:22,374 --> 00:42:24,708 [arcade game noises] 879 00:42:27,004 --> 00:42:30,255 LESLIE (V.O.): I was just following the fun opportunities. 880 00:42:30,415 --> 00:42:31,514 -These are rubles. 881 00:42:31,508 --> 00:42:32,924 -Rubles? -Yeah! 882 00:42:33,084 --> 00:42:35,284 LESLIE (V.O.): I mean, there was no "making it." 883 00:42:35,345 --> 00:42:36,586 There was actually no thought 884 00:42:36,704 --> 00:42:38,771 that that would even be anywhere on the table, 885 00:42:38,724 --> 00:42:40,423 near the table, the table adjacent. 886 00:42:40,583 --> 00:42:42,868 There was no making a living playing music 887 00:42:42,895 --> 00:42:45,461 that was, at all, on my mind. 888 00:42:45,522 --> 00:42:48,014 I was working any way I could to pay my rent, 889 00:42:48,132 --> 00:42:50,067 but none of those ways were music. 890 00:42:50,185 --> 00:42:53,019 The feeling was, there's something really cool 891 00:42:53,137 --> 00:42:56,272 to get to do with friends, and I'm gonna go do that. 892 00:42:56,391 --> 00:42:57,549 You know what I mean? 893 00:42:57,576 --> 00:42:58,942 One gig to the next. 894 00:42:59,060 --> 00:43:01,094 ♪ 895 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,239 -[indistinct lyrics] 896 00:43:04,357 --> 00:43:08,343 ♪ 897 00:43:08,461 --> 00:43:11,354 BRENDAN (V.O.): Like, I was seven years older than you, 898 00:43:11,340 --> 00:43:13,640 so maybe I have a different perspective on, like, 899 00:43:13,758 --> 00:43:14,874 music success. 900 00:43:14,993 --> 00:43:16,868 -Right. You'd gotten close to something 901 00:43:16,762 --> 00:43:18,294 that you thought was success. 902 00:43:18,413 --> 00:43:19,996 -Yeah, like a bunch of times. 903 00:43:19,890 --> 00:43:21,890 So, it's like, "Fuck, like, I'm in my 30s. 904 00:43:22,008 --> 00:43:24,484 "I have no backup plan. Like, this shit has to work." 905 00:43:24,436 --> 00:43:25,477 You know? 906 00:43:25,637 --> 00:43:27,203 LESLIE: But that does explain a lot, 907 00:43:27,189 --> 00:43:30,965 that if you were already in your 30s and I was in my early 20s, 908 00:43:30,984 --> 00:43:32,466 that's exactly the cognitive difference between, 909 00:43:32,486 --> 00:43:33,726 "What are we doing here?" 910 00:43:33,845 --> 00:43:35,695 I don't think I felt I had to leave, 911 00:43:35,814 --> 00:43:36,988 but I just kept leaving. 912 00:43:37,148 --> 00:43:39,257 ["Anthems for a Seventeen-Year-Old Girl" 913 00:43:39,417 --> 00:43:40,900 by Broken Social Scene] 914 00:43:41,019 --> 00:43:43,060 ♪ 915 00:43:43,122 --> 00:43:45,688 ♪ 916 00:43:45,749 --> 00:43:48,341 ♪ 917 00:43:48,293 --> 00:43:51,302 EMILY (V.O.): There were a lot of challenges at that time. 918 00:43:51,296 --> 00:43:54,197 There was a major label system that was sort of a disrespected 919 00:43:54,091 --> 00:43:57,266 Canadian offshoot of the major labels. 920 00:43:57,261 --> 00:44:00,203 Distribution was really, like, an obstacle. 921 00:44:00,264 --> 00:44:03,006 You just had to, like, kiss all these weird asses. 922 00:44:03,124 --> 00:44:05,358 [laughs] And it was just like... 923 00:44:05,310 --> 00:44:08,011 I mean, you know me; I was just like, "No." [laughs] 924 00:44:08,171 --> 00:44:10,513 "I'm not doing that. It's ridiculous." 925 00:44:10,673 --> 00:44:14,084 And that's why Jimmy and I went to New York. 926 00:44:14,069 --> 00:44:16,695 We felt if we wanted to do it on a global scale, 927 00:44:16,855 --> 00:44:19,865 we couldn't do it here. 928 00:44:20,025 --> 00:44:23,160 AMY (V.O.): I remember Lula Lounge. 929 00:44:23,278 --> 00:44:27,363 It was the CD release party, and Emily and Leslie were away. 930 00:44:27,482 --> 00:44:29,565 I had to fill both shoes. 931 00:44:29,626 --> 00:44:31,884 Well, I'd been singing with Emily since I'm 15. 932 00:44:31,837 --> 00:44:35,881 I've sung with her so much that I know how to sing along 933 00:44:36,041 --> 00:44:39,150 in my mind with how she would be as a person. 934 00:44:39,178 --> 00:44:42,112 -[indistinct lyrics] 935 00:44:42,230 --> 00:44:44,063 ♪ 936 00:44:44,016 --> 00:44:47,550 AMY (V.O.): She'd been my best friend since I was 15. 937 00:44:47,669 --> 00:44:49,402 But I remember Peroff, like, behind the scenes, 938 00:44:49,354 --> 00:44:52,555 being like, "Okay, like, 'Anthems,' like, you know, 939 00:44:52,715 --> 00:44:54,524 "it's not lackadaisical. Like, it's on the beat! 940 00:44:54,643 --> 00:44:56,717 "You've gotta, like, you know, keep"-- 941 00:44:56,737 --> 00:44:58,594 You know, it's like, "Stay on the beat." 942 00:44:58,655 --> 00:45:00,463 And I just remember being under, like, 943 00:45:00,449 --> 00:45:05,268 an incredible amount of pressure to, like, pull off both humans. 944 00:45:05,329 --> 00:45:08,471 -[indistinct lyrics] 945 00:45:08,457 --> 00:45:11,057 ♪ Park that car, drop that phone ♪ 946 00:45:11,043 --> 00:45:14,410 ♪ Sleep on the floor, dream about me ♪ 947 00:45:14,529 --> 00:45:17,163 ♪ Park that car, drop that phone ♪ 948 00:45:17,281 --> 00:45:20,592 ♪ Sleep on the floor, dream about me ♪ 949 00:45:20,752 --> 00:45:24,161 ♪ Park that car, drop that phone... ♪ 950 00:45:24,223 --> 00:45:26,422 AMY (V.O.): What I'm always trying to do 951 00:45:26,541 --> 00:45:28,775 is just be where I am 952 00:45:28,727 --> 00:45:33,196 and let the voices of fear leave. 953 00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:38,276 -♪ Used to be one of the rotten ones and I liked you for that ♪ 954 00:45:39,655 --> 00:45:42,580 ♪ Now you're all gone, got your make-up on 955 00:45:42,740 --> 00:45:45,474 and you're not coming back ♪ 956 00:45:45,535 --> 00:45:49,462 [applause and cheering] 957 00:45:49,414 --> 00:45:53,500 AMY (V.O.): I think it's important to be present 958 00:45:53,618 --> 00:45:55,001 as much as you can be. 959 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,188 ♪ 960 00:45:58,215 --> 00:46:02,008 ♪ 961 00:46:02,127 --> 00:46:06,029 ♪ 962 00:46:06,056 --> 00:46:09,366 ♪ 963 00:46:09,393 --> 00:46:13,303 ♪ 964 00:46:13,421 --> 00:46:17,207 ♪ 965 00:46:17,192 --> 00:46:20,968 ♪ 966 00:46:20,988 --> 00:46:24,480 ♪ 967 00:46:24,599 --> 00:46:28,985 ♪ 968 00:46:29,145 --> 00:46:32,931 ♪ 969 00:46:32,958 --> 00:46:37,393 ♪ 970 00:46:37,421 --> 00:46:41,914 ♪ 971 00:46:42,033 --> 00:46:45,585 ♪ 972 00:46:45,703 --> 00:46:48,162 ♪ 973 00:46:48,015 --> 00:46:49,948 SOOK YIN LEE: So, the Broken Social Scene 974 00:46:49,975 --> 00:46:51,324 is really causing a stir. 975 00:46:51,310 --> 00:46:54,010 They've gotten three 5 out of 5 star reviews 976 00:46:54,128 --> 00:46:56,253 in the Toronto Area, and they're pretty hot, eh? 977 00:46:56,315 --> 00:46:58,531 JOHN SAKAMOTO: That's right, and well-deserved. 978 00:46:58,483 --> 00:47:00,774 A very strange collective. 979 00:47:00,894 --> 00:47:02,852 They started out with a core of two members, 980 00:47:02,970 --> 00:47:04,553 but they've expanded on their second album, 981 00:47:04,714 --> 00:47:07,841 called You Forgot it in People, to a ten-member band. 982 00:47:07,826 --> 00:47:12,536 [crowd cheering] 983 00:47:12,497 --> 00:47:18,467 -♪ All your kind, they're coming clean ♪ 984 00:47:18,462 --> 00:47:24,174 ♪ They sleep through keys, they kill their needs ♪ 985 00:47:26,053 --> 00:47:32,448 ♪ All your kind, they're spool and lance ♪ 986 00:47:32,434 --> 00:47:36,853 ♪ They crash their kiss, they harmonize... ♪ 987 00:47:59,753 --> 00:48:01,911 -Oh my God! 988 00:48:02,071 --> 00:48:04,714 -You probably didn't realize that that conversation 989 00:48:04,833 --> 00:48:05,973 was being recorded. 990 00:48:05,926 --> 00:48:07,750 -Uh... [laughs] 991 00:48:07,869 --> 00:48:09,785 I mean, I don't remember that conversation, 992 00:48:09,805 --> 00:48:12,806 but there were many conversations like that. 993 00:48:12,924 --> 00:48:14,224 It was, um... 994 00:48:15,918 --> 00:48:17,818 Holy shit, Chung. 995 00:48:17,771 --> 00:48:19,746 DAVID (V.O.): I like to be called David Drew. 996 00:48:19,731 --> 00:48:21,581 I went through this whole period of life 997 00:48:21,566 --> 00:48:24,133 when I had first got involved with Broken Social Scene 998 00:48:24,152 --> 00:48:26,410 being introduced as Kevin Drew's father. 999 00:48:26,405 --> 00:48:28,262 I was nameless. 1000 00:48:28,281 --> 00:48:31,849 Kevin decided that he needed help. 1001 00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:34,427 "Can you help me with the band's finances? 1002 00:48:34,413 --> 00:48:37,038 "Can you give me some advice about the record label?" 1003 00:48:37,157 --> 00:48:39,190 You know, Kevin now constantly says, 1004 00:48:39,351 --> 00:48:41,284 "I've saved your life, you know?" 1005 00:48:41,169 --> 00:48:44,020 And there are times when I've said to him, 1006 00:48:44,005 --> 00:48:45,422 "You know what? Enough of the life-saving. 1007 00:48:45,540 --> 00:48:47,865 "You know, this stuff gets a bit overwhelming sometimes." 1008 00:48:47,926 --> 00:48:49,817 -[indistinct lyrics] 1009 00:48:49,803 --> 00:48:54,405 ♪ 1010 00:48:54,266 --> 00:48:58,059 JEFFREY (V.O.): It's a post-Napster, pre-iTunes world. 1011 00:48:58,178 --> 00:49:00,870 Large music companies were focused on 1012 00:49:00,856 --> 00:49:03,873 shifting environments that were scary. 1013 00:49:04,033 --> 00:49:05,274 -With Remedios, 1014 00:49:05,393 --> 00:49:07,285 it's one of those things where you immediately go, 1015 00:49:07,279 --> 00:49:09,604 "Okay, we're getting married and this is gonna be a marriage. 1016 00:49:09,722 --> 00:49:12,064 "There's gonna be good times and there's gonna be bad." 1017 00:49:12,183 --> 00:49:14,516 He gave up so much to come and be with us, 1018 00:49:14,636 --> 00:49:16,077 and he just pushed everything forward, 1019 00:49:16,196 --> 00:49:18,854 and then he also did everything he said he was gonna do. 1020 00:49:19,015 --> 00:49:20,397 JEFFREY (V.O.): I remember telling my parents, 1021 00:49:20,459 --> 00:49:22,149 "I'm leaving my really stable job 1022 00:49:22,269 --> 00:49:24,001 "to go partner with this musician, Kevin." 1023 00:49:23,962 --> 00:49:25,561 That was when everything kicked off 1024 00:49:25,547 --> 00:49:28,080 with Broken Social Scene and Arts & Crafts. 1025 00:49:28,199 --> 00:49:30,175 DAVID (V.O.): Kevin introduced me to him, and clearly, 1026 00:49:30,335 --> 00:49:32,235 you know, this was a driven guy. 1027 00:49:32,262 --> 00:49:34,537 He was charming, to say the least. 1028 00:49:34,598 --> 00:49:37,648 If I was gonna get a business partner again in my life, 1029 00:49:37,642 --> 00:49:38,674 Jeffrey would be fine. 1030 00:49:38,834 --> 00:49:40,059 But he's too good-looking for me. 1031 00:49:40,178 --> 00:49:42,311 Yeah, I'd have to get someone slightly uglier. 1032 00:49:42,430 --> 00:49:44,780 STUART (V.O.): In Jeffrey, you had this guy who had worked 1033 00:49:44,774 --> 00:49:45,857 in the traditional label system, 1034 00:49:46,017 --> 00:49:48,233 but unlike a lot of people in the music industry, 1035 00:49:48,353 --> 00:49:49,685 Jeffrey wasn't afraid of the internet. 1036 00:49:49,845 --> 00:49:50,987 He really embraced it. 1037 00:49:51,105 --> 00:49:53,690 And so, he really saw the internet as a way of, like, 1038 00:49:53,617 --> 00:49:55,909 turning fans into ambassadors for this group. 1039 00:49:56,027 --> 00:49:57,368 [audience cheering] 1040 00:49:57,529 --> 00:50:00,254 JEFFREY (V.O.): The exuberance of something totally new 1041 00:50:00,207 --> 00:50:01,472 and totally fresh. 1042 00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:03,583 People were hip to it and excited by it. 1043 00:50:03,701 --> 00:50:05,326 YVONNE (V.O.): It was almost instantaneous. 1044 00:50:05,444 --> 00:50:07,553 They'd have a really good crowd. 1045 00:50:07,506 --> 00:50:10,757 You know, friends, family, and then fans. 1046 00:50:10,875 --> 00:50:15,361 ♪ 1047 00:50:15,347 --> 00:50:19,490 ♪ 1048 00:50:19,518 --> 00:50:22,535 ♪ 1049 00:50:22,521 --> 00:50:23,861 ♪ 1050 00:50:23,855 --> 00:50:25,045 -Thank you. Everything's okay here? 1051 00:50:25,165 --> 00:50:26,289 -Everything's fine. 1052 00:50:26,274 --> 00:50:28,465 -I'm just trying to find a spot with some light 1053 00:50:28,527 --> 00:50:29,466 to put your gear. 1054 00:50:29,544 --> 00:50:31,352 -Like I said, there's no favourites here. 1055 00:50:31,238 --> 00:50:32,595 -There's no favourites? -No. 1056 00:50:32,614 --> 00:50:34,930 -But she's the mother of the lead singer! 1057 00:50:34,950 --> 00:50:36,281 -Of the bride. [laughs] 1058 00:50:36,401 --> 00:50:38,234 -I have to ask you a question, then. 1059 00:50:38,352 --> 00:50:40,236 What's your favourite thing about Broken Social Scene? 1060 00:50:40,354 --> 00:50:42,372 -Uh, they don't live in my house anymore. 1061 00:50:52,250 --> 00:50:54,050 -[blasts note] -[laughs] 1062 00:51:06,672 --> 00:51:08,723 BRENDAN: Why do I have a mic in my pocket? 1063 00:51:08,841 --> 00:51:11,183 Chung, did you put that thing in my back pocket? 1064 00:51:11,302 --> 00:51:13,594 [laughs] I'm all wired! 1065 00:51:13,613 --> 00:51:15,171 STEPHEN (V.O.): This was like a hometown, 1066 00:51:15,156 --> 00:51:16,564 just pre-holiday show. 1067 00:51:16,682 --> 00:51:18,807 Biggest venue I think they'd ever done in town. 1068 00:51:18,927 --> 00:51:20,426 Totally sold out. 1069 00:51:20,545 --> 00:51:23,129 -♪ The weather outside is frightful! ♪ 1070 00:51:23,081 --> 00:51:25,723 [indistinct conversation] 1071 00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:28,367 -You know what? Don't point that weapon at me! 1072 00:51:28,253 --> 00:51:30,286 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): And I remember you filming that. 1073 00:51:30,404 --> 00:51:32,722 STEPHEN (V.O.): Phoenix show was one of the landmarks. 1074 00:51:32,716 --> 00:51:34,524 -Brendan, do you trust him? 1075 00:51:34,509 --> 00:51:35,425 -Chung? 1076 00:51:37,128 --> 00:51:39,270 -Yeah, I trust him. -Yeah? 1077 00:51:39,264 --> 00:51:41,364 STEPHEN (V.O.): And that's the first time I feel like 1078 00:51:41,524 --> 00:51:43,799 I wanted to shoot a movie. 1079 00:51:43,959 --> 00:51:45,760 [audience cheering] 1080 00:51:45,878 --> 00:51:51,065 -♪ All these people drinking lover's spit... ♪ 1081 00:51:53,570 --> 00:51:55,636 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): You Forgot it in People 1082 00:51:55,655 --> 00:52:00,091 is the honeymoon of Broken Social Scene. 1083 00:52:00,118 --> 00:52:02,035 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): I do actually kind of remember 1084 00:52:02,153 --> 00:52:04,654 playing with Social Scene at the Phoenix, 1085 00:52:04,772 --> 00:52:07,290 but I think I remember slow-dancing with Peroff. 1086 00:52:08,551 --> 00:52:10,618 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): Doing a show is a reciprocation. 1087 00:52:10,503 --> 00:52:12,787 You put it out, the audience gives it back, 1088 00:52:12,905 --> 00:52:14,405 and then it goes to another level. 1089 00:52:14,466 --> 00:52:16,323 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): Not necessarily through lyrics 1090 00:52:16,343 --> 00:52:19,318 and a song, but just a feeling. 1091 00:52:19,137 --> 00:52:20,887 KEVIN: This is "It's All Gonna Break." 1092 00:52:21,005 --> 00:52:22,263 Thank you very much, folks. 1093 00:52:22,382 --> 00:52:23,706 Enjoy your lives. Goodnight. 1094 00:52:23,767 --> 00:52:25,324 ♪ 1095 00:52:25,443 --> 00:52:27,910 KEVIN: ♪ It's all... 1096 00:52:28,029 --> 00:52:32,081 ♪ 1097 00:52:32,108 --> 00:52:33,666 ♪ Gonna break! ♪ 1098 00:52:33,651 --> 00:52:35,101 ♪ 1099 00:52:35,219 --> 00:52:37,219 ♪ Treat me like a sign ♪ 1100 00:52:37,338 --> 00:52:39,088 ♪ Sounds like so well ♪ 1101 00:52:39,115 --> 00:52:42,708 ♪ I know times like these are the hell ♪ 1102 00:52:42,661 --> 00:52:46,437 ♪ And when you do the tricks, the tricks look so good ♪ 1103 00:52:46,331 --> 00:52:50,399 ♪ I got buried rumours waiting in the woods ♪ 1104 00:52:50,418 --> 00:52:55,471 ♪ And they try to climb awake and call me over ♪ 1105 00:52:55,465 --> 00:52:58,224 ♪ Skies they rape and skies are sober ♪ 1106 00:52:58,342 --> 00:53:00,768 ♪ Minds they fake and minds rolled over ♪ 1107 00:53:00,886 --> 00:53:05,615 ♪ It's good, it's good, it's good, it's good to love ♪ 1108 00:53:05,642 --> 00:53:09,118 ♪ 1109 00:53:09,104 --> 00:53:11,353 ♪ 1110 00:53:11,272 --> 00:53:13,155 ♪ But it's all... ♪ 1111 00:53:13,149 --> 00:53:18,635 [sustains note] 1112 00:53:18,697 --> 00:53:22,122 [distortion] 1113 00:53:22,075 --> 00:53:25,451 [crowd cheering] 1114 00:53:25,570 --> 00:53:27,403 KEVIN: ♪ Gonna break! ♪ 1115 00:53:27,521 --> 00:53:30,230 ♪ 1116 00:53:30,350 --> 00:53:34,660 -♪ It's all, all, all, all, all, all, all ♪ 1117 00:53:34,778 --> 00:53:39,966 ♪ All, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all ♪ 1118 00:53:40,084 --> 00:53:43,636 ♪ All-all-all-all-all... ♪ 1119 00:53:43,755 --> 00:53:48,732 [sustains note] 1120 00:53:48,727 --> 00:53:49,884 ♪ Gonna break! ♪ 1121 00:53:50,002 --> 00:53:52,995 ♪ 1122 00:53:52,981 --> 00:53:56,590 ♪ 1123 00:53:56,609 --> 00:54:00,278 ♪ 1124 00:54:00,438 --> 00:54:03,005 ♪ 1125 00:54:03,124 --> 00:54:05,883 ♪ 1126 00:54:05,910 --> 00:54:09,478 ♪ 1127 00:54:09,539 --> 00:54:12,849 ♪ 1128 00:54:12,876 --> 00:54:18,604 ♪ 1129 00:54:18,590 --> 00:54:21,824 ♪ 1130 00:54:21,985 --> 00:54:25,528 ♪ 1131 00:54:25,513 --> 00:54:31,534 ♪ 1132 00:54:31,561 --> 00:54:33,436 -Let's go! Raise your hands up high! 1133 00:54:41,362 --> 00:54:42,820 -Are we brunching in the morning? 1134 00:54:42,980 --> 00:54:44,421 KEVIN: Yeah, we're gonna try. 1135 00:54:44,282 --> 00:54:46,215 Thanks, babe. 1136 00:54:46,201 --> 00:54:47,800 Thanks for comin'. 1137 00:54:47,919 --> 00:54:53,689 ♪ 1138 00:54:53,583 --> 00:54:56,383 KEVIN (V.O.): As much as I had some of the best 1139 00:54:56,336 --> 00:54:58,427 live experiences being on stage with that band, 1140 00:54:58,421 --> 00:55:01,530 I also had some of the best backstage experiences. 1141 00:55:01,382 --> 00:55:03,566 The show never fuckin' stopped. 1142 00:55:03,551 --> 00:55:05,067 JEFFREY (V.O.): I have this memory, 1143 00:55:05,053 --> 00:55:07,778 they did back-to-back nights, and the first night, like, 1144 00:55:07,806 --> 00:55:11,815 the backstage was just total chaos. 1145 00:55:11,810 --> 00:55:14,493 LESLIE: Me, too! Don't forget about me, Stevie! 1146 00:55:14,479 --> 00:55:16,354 Don't forget about me, alright? 1147 00:55:16,514 --> 00:55:18,155 I'm here! Talking shit! 1148 00:55:18,315 --> 00:55:20,140 JEFFREY (V.O.): The second night's show, and they said, 1149 00:55:20,259 --> 00:55:22,701 "Alright, listen,it needs to be a closed backstage tonight. 1150 00:55:22,820 --> 00:55:24,529 "Like, nobody's coming in tonight, 1151 00:55:24,689 --> 00:55:27,857 "except for this person, and except for that person. 1152 00:55:27,784 --> 00:55:30,259 "And except for, like, you know, indie rockers." 1153 00:55:30,419 --> 00:55:32,762 Okay, so, uh, it's a totally open backstage! 1154 00:55:32,789 --> 00:55:34,229 -I was pretty cocky last night. 1155 00:55:34,290 --> 00:55:36,082 I'd give myself a 9.5 out of 10. 1156 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,284 -Oh, yeah? 1157 00:55:38,402 --> 00:55:41,220 JEFFREY (V.O.): At that time, they were, like, 1158 00:55:41,172 --> 00:55:43,789 both mayors of our scene in the city. 1159 00:55:43,907 --> 00:55:47,451 -This will never, ever, ever, ever happen again. 1160 00:55:47,512 --> 00:55:50,596 So let's just know that all we have is right now. 1161 00:55:52,183 --> 00:55:54,358 -Always, man. Always and forever. 1162 00:55:54,352 --> 00:55:56,568 -Chungie, I'm so glad you were there tonight. 1163 00:55:56,521 --> 00:55:58,637 -Yeah. You know? -I am, too. 1164 00:55:58,756 --> 00:56:01,457 -Are you Broken Social Scene? -Yes. 1165 00:56:01,442 --> 00:56:03,200 -Why is everyone comin' to our house? 1166 00:56:03,194 --> 00:56:04,310 -'Cause you fuckin' said, 1167 00:56:04,428 --> 00:56:06,662 invited people back to our house to smoke pot. 1168 00:56:06,656 --> 00:56:08,147 -That's a big crowd... 1169 00:56:08,265 --> 00:56:10,007 -Yeah, and I have no idea why. 1170 00:56:10,034 --> 00:56:13,177 JO-ANN (V.O.): Things got a little, like, nuts. 1171 00:56:13,204 --> 00:56:17,181 I wasn't always happy with the people hanging out. 1172 00:56:17,208 --> 00:56:18,824 The crowd started to change 1173 00:56:18,942 --> 00:56:21,677 and the people who came over started to change. 1174 00:56:21,671 --> 00:56:24,313 The community part of it diluted. 1175 00:56:24,299 --> 00:56:27,016 It became something different. 1176 00:56:27,010 --> 00:56:30,118 EMILY (V.O.): It's an age-old tale of changing times. 1177 00:56:30,179 --> 00:56:31,587 I don't think it's, like-- 1178 00:56:31,705 --> 00:56:33,455 I don't think there's anything tragic about it. 1179 00:56:33,516 --> 00:56:35,441 I think it's amazing, what happened, 1180 00:56:35,393 --> 00:56:37,443 'cause we all wanted something to happen. 1181 00:56:37,395 --> 00:56:38,519 And it did. 1182 00:56:38,638 --> 00:56:41,838 ["Cause = Time" by Broken Social Scene] 1183 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,592 ♪ 1184 00:56:45,612 --> 00:56:48,187 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): We were all toiling away in Canada 1185 00:56:48,305 --> 00:56:50,740 at a time where people didn't pay much 1186 00:56:50,858 --> 00:56:53,676 mind to Canadian music internationally. 1187 00:56:53,703 --> 00:56:56,262 The band was in the right place at the right time 1188 00:56:56,247 --> 00:56:58,556 and made the right record. 1189 00:56:58,583 --> 00:57:00,649 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): That was the first BSS video. 1190 00:57:00,668 --> 00:57:03,169 That was probably before anything had happened. 1191 00:57:03,287 --> 00:57:05,104 KEVIN: It's gonna be an art/cult video. 1192 00:57:05,222 --> 00:57:08,232 In this backyard, everyone will be wearing camouflage. 1193 00:57:08,392 --> 00:57:10,718 We're gonna do band performance and we're gonna mock 1194 00:57:10,836 --> 00:57:13,220 sort of the whole band performance stylization of it. 1195 00:57:13,339 --> 00:57:16,190 What we're gonna be doing down at the bottom of that hill 1196 00:57:16,142 --> 00:57:18,959 over there is we're gonna have an orange screen in the back, 1197 00:57:18,811 --> 00:57:20,502 and we're gonna do the band performance 1198 00:57:20,563 --> 00:57:22,538 with everyone rocking out with bags over their heads. 1199 00:57:22,565 --> 00:57:24,206 -What's with the bags on our heads? 1200 00:57:24,192 --> 00:57:25,191 -The bags on our heads? 1201 00:57:25,309 --> 00:57:26,992 What do you mean what's with them? 1202 00:57:27,111 --> 00:57:27,968 It just makes it better. 1203 00:57:27,987 --> 00:57:30,178 JIMMY: Can we cut holes in this for eyes? 1204 00:57:30,198 --> 00:57:33,390 'Cause that'll freak me out if I have a bag over my head 1205 00:57:33,284 --> 00:57:34,400 the whole time. 1206 00:57:34,518 --> 00:57:35,985 I'm gonna get all claustrophobic and weird. 1207 00:57:36,103 --> 00:57:38,471 DAVID (V.O.): And then that crazy Pitchfork Media review. 1208 00:57:38,456 --> 00:57:39,705 Who the fuck is Pitchfork? 1209 00:57:39,824 --> 00:57:41,548 -When the Pitchfork review came in, 1210 00:57:41,501 --> 00:57:43,283 it was like a different world to me, 1211 00:57:43,402 --> 00:57:45,211 'cause it was like reviews on the internet, 1212 00:57:45,329 --> 00:57:46,812 which I normally was like, 1213 00:57:46,798 --> 00:57:49,048 "Did we get written up in the Toronto Star?" 1214 00:57:49,166 --> 00:57:52,134 It's like, "No, don't worry about your print anymore." 1215 00:57:53,954 --> 00:57:56,872 RYAN (V.O.): Basically when I got online in 1994, 1216 00:57:57,033 --> 00:57:59,091 I was kind of seeing, like, "This internet thing 1217 00:57:59,209 --> 00:58:01,510 "has a lot of potential as a publishing platform." 1218 00:58:01,670 --> 00:58:03,879 I kind of felt a little bit of a responsibility 1219 00:58:03,898 --> 00:58:06,515 because we had such a megaphone within this world. 1220 00:58:06,675 --> 00:58:09,810 And I was hugely passionate about indie music. 1221 00:58:09,928 --> 00:58:12,888 2002, and I'm digging through all of these CDs, 1222 00:58:12,907 --> 00:58:14,815 and I come across Broken Social Scene, 1223 00:58:14,933 --> 00:58:16,683 You Forgot it in People, and I'm like, 1224 00:58:16,703 --> 00:58:18,193 "God, that is a terrible band name." 1225 00:58:18,312 --> 00:58:20,729 From the moment it comes on, that record is amazing! 1226 00:58:20,790 --> 00:58:22,807 It's got this lush, beautiful intro, 1227 00:58:22,834 --> 00:58:25,334 and then it just kicks in and it doesn't stop. 1228 00:58:25,453 --> 00:58:28,403 ♪ 1229 00:58:28,423 --> 00:58:30,831 ♪ 1230 00:58:30,949 --> 00:58:35,261 ♪ And they all want to love the cause ♪ 1231 00:58:35,379 --> 00:58:37,346 1232 00:58:37,465 --> 00:58:39,623 ♪ They all need to be... ♪ 1233 00:58:39,684 --> 00:58:42,359 RYAN (V.O.): I think I gave it a 9.1 or a 9.2, 1234 00:58:42,353 --> 00:58:43,585 something just over a 9. 1235 00:58:43,646 --> 00:58:45,604 At this point, though, Pitchfork's readership is maybe, 1236 00:58:45,723 --> 00:58:47,606 like, 50,000 people a day. 1237 00:58:47,725 --> 00:58:49,883 50,000 a day seems like a lot. 1238 00:58:49,902 --> 00:58:51,593 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): I didn't have the internet. 1239 00:58:51,654 --> 00:58:52,987 I didn't have a cell phone. 1240 00:58:53,105 --> 00:58:55,823 Suddenly, this website changed the game for us. 1241 00:58:55,941 --> 00:58:58,292 STUART (V.O.): So when Pitchfork slaps a 9.2 1242 00:58:58,410 --> 00:59:01,661 on this unknown band from Canada with a weird name, 1243 00:59:01,581 --> 00:59:03,839 it really piqued a lot of people's interest. 1244 00:59:03,841 --> 00:59:05,757 Like, "Who the fuck are these guys? 1245 00:59:05,876 --> 00:59:08,093 "You know, they're not Wilco. They're not Radiohead. 1246 00:59:08,095 --> 00:59:10,913 "I need to seek this out right away." 1247 00:59:11,073 --> 00:59:13,482 -It was timed so well that two months later 1248 00:59:13,601 --> 00:59:15,434 we were on the road, and everywhere we went 1249 00:59:15,386 --> 00:59:16,743 it was basically just sold out. 1250 00:59:16,863 --> 00:59:19,764 ♪ 1251 00:59:24,837 --> 00:59:27,938 [audience cheering] 1252 00:59:27,899 --> 00:59:29,565 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): We were excited about, 1253 00:59:29,683 --> 00:59:31,767 you know, playing around town. 1254 00:59:31,885 --> 00:59:34,737 Suddenly, you can just play anywhere in the world. 1255 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,273 [crowd cheering] 1256 00:59:38,392 --> 00:59:41,427 ♪ 1257 00:59:41,412 --> 00:59:45,097 ♪ 1258 00:59:45,216 --> 00:59:48,851 ♪ 1259 00:59:48,836 --> 00:59:52,021 ♪ 1260 00:59:52,048 --> 00:59:55,132 ♪ 1261 00:59:55,292 --> 00:59:58,034 ♪ 1262 00:59:58,096 --> 01:00:00,763 ♪ 1263 01:00:06,011 --> 01:00:08,078 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): We caught America so off-guard 1264 01:00:08,106 --> 01:00:11,573 that Canada snuck in somehow with the indie rock explosion. 1265 01:00:11,567 --> 01:00:13,216 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): This record was growing. 1266 01:00:13,277 --> 01:00:14,293 It was global. 1267 01:00:14,278 --> 01:00:16,244 It was getting bigger and bigger and bigger. 1268 01:00:16,239 --> 01:00:17,721 All the shows were sold out. 1269 01:00:17,782 --> 01:00:19,848 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): These festivals that we played, like, 1270 01:00:19,867 --> 01:00:21,967 early days in Europe, were just like that phrase, 1271 01:00:21,953 --> 01:00:24,745 like just a rag-tag group of kids, you know? 1272 01:00:24,864 --> 01:00:26,321 -Holland, Holland. 1273 01:00:26,481 --> 01:00:27,598 Jimmy in Holland. 1274 01:00:27,625 --> 01:00:31,018 [crowd cheering] 1275 01:00:31,003 --> 01:00:34,271 ♪ 1276 01:00:34,298 --> 01:00:38,909 ♪ 1277 01:00:39,070 --> 01:00:41,503 BRENDAN (V.O.): And when you're all new to the game, 1278 01:00:41,663 --> 01:00:42,721 everyone's new. 1279 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,673 Like, even Jeffrey had never managed a band before. 1280 01:00:44,791 --> 01:00:46,408 He had worked; he was label side. 1281 01:00:46,435 --> 01:00:47,509 It's not easy. 1282 01:00:47,628 --> 01:00:50,120 -[indistinct lyrics] 1283 01:00:50,147 --> 01:00:52,915 ♪ 1284 01:00:52,900 --> 01:00:56,643 ♪ 1285 01:00:56,529 --> 01:00:57,987 [applause] 1286 01:01:07,356 --> 01:01:08,964 -We got a bag of those? 1287 01:01:08,958 --> 01:01:10,924 JEFFREY (V.O.): Everyone was trying to figure it out. 1288 01:01:10,877 --> 01:01:12,117 What can we afford? 1289 01:01:12,003 --> 01:01:14,253 How many people could we afford to bring? 1290 01:01:14,371 --> 01:01:16,422 It was usually like "one more musician versus lights," 1291 01:01:16,540 --> 01:01:19,175 was typically how it all went. 1292 01:01:19,293 --> 01:01:22,219 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): No one knew what the fuck we were doing. 1293 01:01:43,618 --> 01:01:45,508 -You guys got an adventure. 1294 01:01:45,369 --> 01:01:47,736 EVAN: Yeah, I'm all for that. 1295 01:01:47,854 --> 01:01:51,290 -Seeing the world through this shuttleus 1296 01:01:51,408 --> 01:01:56,045 scenario of teenage heartbeat, summer camp, music. 1297 01:02:13,064 --> 01:02:14,946 BRENDAN (V.O.): We have a successful record. 1298 01:02:14,899 --> 01:02:18,542 It catches heat in America, then it catches heat in the UK, 1299 01:02:18,569 --> 01:02:21,654 then it catches heat in Europe, and then you're going to Japan; 1300 01:02:21,772 --> 01:02:23,172 you're kind of playing catch-up. 1301 01:02:23,199 --> 01:02:25,582 And then, you know, we also gotta get 1302 01:02:25,576 --> 01:02:27,084 the next record out the door. 1303 01:02:27,078 --> 01:02:28,993 -When they had to make the follow-up record, 1304 01:02:28,913 --> 01:02:31,021 what became the self-titled record, 1305 01:02:31,082 --> 01:02:33,315 they would jump into the studio when they had, like, 1306 01:02:33,334 --> 01:02:34,333 an extra spare day off. 1307 01:02:34,451 --> 01:02:36,201 We didn't have that sort of consistent window 1308 01:02:36,319 --> 01:02:38,036 in their creative process at that time. 1309 01:02:38,155 --> 01:02:39,938 -Can we hear that, too? -Yeah. 1310 01:02:39,924 --> 01:02:41,607 -So just let it ring. -[guitar tuning] 1311 01:02:41,592 --> 01:02:43,617 -The beat's so groovy in this, man. 1312 01:02:43,469 --> 01:02:46,536 KEVIN (V.O.): Justin, I know I talked to a lot of bands 1313 01:02:46,697 --> 01:02:48,764 about how when they heard his rhythms, 1314 01:02:48,882 --> 01:02:50,982 it changed the way they wanted to play. 1315 01:02:50,935 --> 01:02:52,334 JUSTIN: Hey, you know what, guys? 1316 01:02:52,395 --> 01:02:54,803 Do another version, and remember, this time, 1317 01:02:54,963 --> 01:02:57,147 it sounds so good when there's lots of space, too. 1318 01:02:57,307 --> 01:02:59,382 You too, Brendan. You hear that, too? 1319 01:02:59,543 --> 01:03:01,393 -Yeah. -So just let it ring. 1320 01:03:01,511 --> 01:03:03,404 BRENDAN (V.O.): You've got a producer like Dave Newfeld 1321 01:03:03,522 --> 01:03:06,407 colouring in a lot of the lines when we would go on tour, 1322 01:03:06,525 --> 01:03:09,484 and we'd come back and we'd be like, "Oh, this is great. 1323 01:03:09,603 --> 01:03:10,928 "This sounds like your song now." 1324 01:03:10,955 --> 01:03:12,913 KEVIN (V.O.): He wanted everything to sound as great 1325 01:03:13,032 --> 01:03:15,039 as it possibly could, and it was intense, 1326 01:03:14,959 --> 01:03:17,567 but then the results, and just being around that energy, 1327 01:03:17,628 --> 01:03:19,795 it worked. 1328 01:03:44,155 --> 01:03:46,355 -We were very burnt out. -At that point? 1329 01:03:46,515 --> 01:03:47,948 What about now?! 1330 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,042 -I think we'll always be burnt out, too. 1331 01:03:50,995 --> 01:03:53,061 It seems to be the way I'm looking for. 1332 01:03:53,122 --> 01:03:55,139 I don't want to tour this fall, but Canning... 1333 01:03:55,166 --> 01:03:56,865 Canning's insisting that we're going to. 1334 01:03:56,983 --> 01:03:58,751 -It's back to school. It's back to school. 1335 01:03:58,869 --> 01:03:59,877 -Back to school. Apparently. 1336 01:04:02,048 --> 01:04:03,955 KEVIN (V.O.): All you ask for in life 1337 01:04:04,074 --> 01:04:05,841 is just to try to make it simple, 1338 01:04:05,959 --> 01:04:08,076 and this band is not that. 1339 01:04:08,195 --> 01:04:10,937 JO-ANN (V.O.): Kevin and Brendan had to be at the whim 1340 01:04:10,890 --> 01:04:15,350 of these other entities that were ambitious. 1341 01:04:15,469 --> 01:04:16,359 Metric... 1342 01:04:16,354 --> 01:04:18,020 -I'm gonna play a coliseum in Croatia. 1343 01:04:18,138 --> 01:04:20,456 -The timing couldn't be worse. It's writing. 1344 01:04:20,574 --> 01:04:21,390 JO-ANN (V.O.): Stars... 1345 01:04:21,508 --> 01:04:23,125 BAND MEMBER: We're goin' away on Friday. 1346 01:04:23,110 --> 01:04:24,851 JO-ANN (V.O.): Feist... 1347 01:04:24,970 --> 01:04:26,795 They had people, and then they didn't. 1348 01:04:26,822 --> 01:04:28,547 -By this point, Broken Social Scene had hired 1349 01:04:28,532 --> 01:04:31,784 Lisa Lobsinger to be the female voice of the band. 1350 01:04:31,902 --> 01:04:34,711 Emily, Amy, and Feist weren't available as much. 1351 01:04:34,705 --> 01:04:36,338 KEVIN (V.O.): But Lobby sort of came 1352 01:04:36,332 --> 01:04:39,674 and allowed us to continue on, 1353 01:04:39,668 --> 01:04:41,484 and she sang other people's songs, 1354 01:04:41,545 --> 01:04:43,111 and she took on a lot. 1355 01:04:43,005 --> 01:04:45,989 Some of the best times I had on the road were with her. 1356 01:04:46,050 --> 01:04:48,308 -I think the original architecture 1357 01:04:48,260 --> 01:04:52,029 of what Broken Social Scene was wasn't a band, but it was, 1358 01:04:52,056 --> 01:04:53,621 "How do you tour this thing?" 1359 01:04:53,682 --> 01:04:55,599 JIMMY (V.O.): I'd see a tour announcement come up 1360 01:04:55,759 --> 01:04:58,727 and I'd look at the tour and call up Kevin and be like, 1361 01:04:58,846 --> 01:05:01,163 "Alright, man, I'm gonna come to LA, San Diego, 1362 01:05:01,148 --> 01:05:02,940 "I'll do New York, Boston, 1363 01:05:03,100 --> 01:05:06,043 "as long as it's a tour bus, I'm gonna take three days off, 1364 01:05:06,070 --> 01:05:08,437 "and then I'm gonna do the three European festivals." 1365 01:05:08,364 --> 01:05:11,657 And he's like, "Sure, man. I'll make it work. For you." 1366 01:05:11,775 --> 01:05:13,951 -Super hungover! 1367 01:05:15,020 --> 01:05:16,236 BRENDAN (V.O.): Now you've got 1368 01:05:16,354 --> 01:05:17,979 all these ego-driven personalities, 1369 01:05:17,873 --> 01:05:20,207 myself included; it's tricky manoeuvring. 1370 01:05:20,325 --> 01:05:23,109 You never know who's gonna show up from tour to tour. 1371 01:05:23,129 --> 01:05:26,121 ANDREW (V.O.): There was a tour we did where, like, 1372 01:05:26,239 --> 01:05:28,424 Emily, Amy, Leslie, none of them were available. 1373 01:05:28,542 --> 01:05:29,624 It was pre-Lobsinger. 1374 01:05:29,743 --> 01:05:31,218 And so, we solved this problem 1375 01:05:31,336 --> 01:05:33,628 by getting the promoter in each town 1376 01:05:33,747 --> 01:05:36,907 to find a local woman singer. 1377 01:05:36,934 --> 01:05:38,858 We did it in Singapore. 1378 01:05:38,811 --> 01:05:40,902 We did this in Mexico City. 1379 01:05:40,896 --> 01:05:42,646 Yeah, you know what I'm talkin' about. 1380 01:05:42,806 --> 01:05:45,840 -Hi, Chungie. -Hi, Stevie. 1381 01:05:45,901 --> 01:05:47,893 KEVIN: Um, how should we do this? 1382 01:05:48,011 --> 01:05:49,394 CHARLIE: We could do a song each. 1383 01:05:49,512 --> 01:05:51,830 But it's kinda nice for "7/4" to have everybody sing, 1384 01:05:51,782 --> 01:05:53,648 it's comin' in hard, and stuff like that. 1385 01:05:53,767 --> 01:05:54,991 KEVIN: Yeah, "7/4"... 1386 01:05:54,952 --> 01:05:57,261 -We can all sing! -We can have both of you, yeah. 1387 01:05:57,288 --> 01:05:59,654 And then "Almost Crimes," you can kill it. 1388 01:05:59,773 --> 01:06:01,081 -Okay. -Awesome. 1389 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:02,982 We gotta get some horn players. 1390 01:06:03,102 --> 01:06:04,559 -We're just gonna go to Mariachi Square 1391 01:06:04,545 --> 01:06:05,936 and try and find some. 1392 01:06:05,963 --> 01:06:08,630 [speaking in Spanish] 1393 01:06:10,468 --> 01:06:13,226 -They want 3,200 for the whole group. 1394 01:06:13,345 --> 01:06:15,070 They won't separate. And that's for an hour. 1395 01:06:15,188 --> 01:06:16,947 -We need a Plan B. -Yeah. 1396 01:06:16,974 --> 01:06:19,991 -We need horns, man. We need horns. 1397 01:06:19,810 --> 01:06:22,027 -What happened? -Three. 1398 01:06:21,979 --> 01:06:24,121 200 bucks, and they're gonna stay for the four songs. 1399 01:06:24,148 --> 01:06:25,780 -They're gonna be there at 11, too. 1400 01:06:25,774 --> 01:06:27,608 -I can't believe we just got some guy. 1401 01:06:27,726 --> 01:06:31,528 -Five, six, seven, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. 1402 01:06:31,688 --> 01:06:35,890 [trumpet playing] 1403 01:06:35,951 --> 01:06:37,025 -That's it. -That's it. 1404 01:06:37,143 --> 01:06:38,468 -[laughter] -That's one song! 1405 01:06:38,496 --> 01:06:40,211 -That's all there is to it. -That's it. 1406 01:06:40,164 --> 01:06:41,163 [speaking in Spanish] 1407 01:06:41,281 --> 01:06:42,956 -Do you have it in writing? 1408 01:06:43,075 --> 01:06:44,950 -I don't. I can try and write it out. 1409 01:06:45,068 --> 01:06:46,351 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): That sprawling collective 1410 01:06:46,337 --> 01:06:49,095 of a revolving door of musicians coming and going, 1411 01:06:49,048 --> 01:06:50,430 that's hard to sustain. 1412 01:06:50,382 --> 01:06:52,557 BRENDAN (V.O.): 'Cause it's in trumpet language. 1413 01:06:52,510 --> 01:06:54,543 I can transpose it. 1414 01:06:54,703 --> 01:06:56,028 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): It's really difficult 1415 01:06:56,013 --> 01:06:58,413 to put that much chaos on stage. 1416 01:06:58,474 --> 01:07:02,492 You can't just remove the chaos because it's built on chaos. 1417 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,660 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): It was a little much. 1418 01:07:04,522 --> 01:07:05,687 It was a little much. 1419 01:07:05,722 --> 01:07:08,707 ANDREW (V.O.): Social Scene has never been able to control 1420 01:07:08,825 --> 01:07:11,360 our presentation of ourselves. 1421 01:07:11,478 --> 01:07:13,277 We've never been able to do it. 1422 01:07:13,397 --> 01:07:16,214 -♪ It's a shoreline ♪ 1423 01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,991 ♪ 1424 01:07:18,110 --> 01:07:20,702 ♪ And it's half speed ♪ 1425 01:07:20,821 --> 01:07:23,221 ♪ 1426 01:07:23,340 --> 01:07:25,732 ♪ It's a cruel world ♪ 1427 01:07:25,751 --> 01:07:28,085 ♪ 1428 01:07:28,245 --> 01:07:30,645 ♪ And it's time... ♪ 1429 01:07:30,673 --> 01:07:32,589 ♪ 1430 01:07:32,749 --> 01:07:36,902 [trumpets playing] 1431 01:07:37,020 --> 01:07:38,995 ♪ 1432 01:07:39,056 --> 01:07:41,940 [crowd cheering] 1433 01:07:41,892 --> 01:07:45,394 [applause] 1434 01:07:53,770 --> 01:07:55,737 JO-ANN (V.O.): Our lives were just kinda like... 1435 01:07:55,856 --> 01:07:58,215 [mimics explosion] 1436 01:07:58,242 --> 01:08:01,334 They were away a lot more. I was doing things here. 1437 01:08:01,287 --> 01:08:03,369 Brendan and Kevin got what they wanted: 1438 01:08:03,289 --> 01:08:05,205 they were able to survive off their art. 1439 01:08:05,324 --> 01:08:09,017 They were given more access to keep creating and doing things. 1440 01:08:09,003 --> 01:08:10,818 KEVIN: Thank you so much, everybody! 1441 01:08:10,671 --> 01:08:12,111 [applause and cheering] 1442 01:08:12,231 --> 01:08:14,347 STEPHEN (V.O.): I had two kids at that time, 1443 01:08:14,300 --> 01:08:15,790 and hangin' out with your buddies, 1444 01:08:15,909 --> 01:08:17,259 smoking pot and taking pictures, 1445 01:08:17,377 --> 01:08:19,702 was just not gonna happen at that point in time. 1446 01:08:19,763 --> 01:08:20,854 -That's not a job. 1447 01:08:20,764 --> 01:08:22,948 -No! You guys were jettin' all over the place. 1448 01:08:22,933 --> 01:08:26,393 -Nine, ten... Check, one, two... 1449 01:08:26,511 --> 01:08:28,461 -Everybody's hungry, so I have 20 meals 1450 01:08:28,580 --> 01:08:30,505 being brought over to the Q101 stage. 1451 01:08:30,566 --> 01:08:33,383 We're all leaving here right now on golf carts. 1452 01:08:33,444 --> 01:08:35,210 STUART (V.O.): Lollapalooza in 2006 1453 01:08:35,195 --> 01:08:37,154 was a very special moment for this group. 1454 01:08:37,314 --> 01:08:39,740 A lot of people like Emily and Feist and Amy 1455 01:08:39,858 --> 01:08:42,392 had been off touring with their own bands and projects, 1456 01:08:42,453 --> 01:08:45,787 and this was a rare occasion for everyone to come together 1457 01:08:45,906 --> 01:08:48,290 at one show, which is something that wasn't happening 1458 01:08:48,408 --> 01:08:50,792 a lot back then, and hasn't really happened a lot since. 1459 01:08:50,911 --> 01:08:53,261 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): And it was just this magical moment 1460 01:08:53,255 --> 01:08:55,263 where you've got tens of thousands of people 1461 01:08:55,257 --> 01:08:58,600 completely going on this emotional journey 1462 01:08:58,594 --> 01:09:00,802 that a Social Scene show takes you on. 1463 01:09:00,921 --> 01:09:02,704 ANNOUNCER: Are you guys ready for one of 1464 01:09:02,765 --> 01:09:04,330 our final bands tonight? 1465 01:09:04,183 --> 01:09:05,523 [applause and cheering] 1466 01:09:05,476 --> 01:09:08,193 ANNOUNCER: Chicago, give a warm welcome... 1467 01:09:08,145 --> 01:09:10,562 to Broken Social Scene! 1468 01:09:10,681 --> 01:09:14,424 [applause and cheering] 1469 01:09:14,485 --> 01:09:17,252 -We've got 45 minutes to play our guts out for you tonight, 1470 01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:18,436 so here we go! 1471 01:09:18,555 --> 01:09:20,763 Thank you so much for doin' this for us. 1472 01:09:20,824 --> 01:09:24,284 [ambient brass music] 1473 01:09:24,403 --> 01:09:28,563 ♪ 1474 01:09:28,624 --> 01:09:31,449 ♪ 1475 01:09:31,568 --> 01:09:34,661 ♪ 1476 01:09:34,779 --> 01:09:38,364 ♪ 1477 01:09:38,384 --> 01:09:42,652 ♪ 1478 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:46,531 ♪ 1479 01:09:46,517 --> 01:09:50,619 ♪ 1480 01:09:50,646 --> 01:09:54,756 ♪ 1481 01:09:54,775 --> 01:09:57,542 CROWD: [chanting] One! Two! Three! Four! 1482 01:09:57,528 --> 01:09:59,461 ["Ibi Dreams of Pavement (A Better Day)" 1483 01:09:59,446 --> 01:10:01,904 by Broken Social Scene] 1484 01:10:01,865 --> 01:10:04,382 [applause and cheering] 1485 01:10:04,368 --> 01:10:09,061 ♪ 1486 01:10:09,181 --> 01:10:13,399 ♪ 1487 01:10:13,519 --> 01:10:15,585 ♪ 1488 01:10:15,745 --> 01:10:20,490 -♪ Well, I got shot right in the back ♪ 1489 01:10:20,551 --> 01:10:26,087 ♪ And you were there, you were there ♪ 1490 01:10:26,206 --> 01:10:30,608 ♪ I said I was never coming back ♪ 1491 01:10:30,561 --> 01:10:35,764 ♪ And you were there, you were there ♪ 1492 01:10:35,924 --> 01:10:40,944 ♪ Well I know the eyelids are under attack ♪ 1493 01:10:41,104 --> 01:10:45,031 ♪ You were there, you were there... ♪ 1494 01:10:45,150 --> 01:10:48,518 ♪ 1495 01:10:48,579 --> 01:10:51,337 KEVIN: This is the part where you gotta cheer with us, 1496 01:10:51,290 --> 01:10:54,791 because we are alive, Chicago! 1497 01:10:57,379 --> 01:10:59,487 Lots of fucked up things goin' on right now, 1498 01:10:59,548 --> 01:11:01,631 so let's just cheer for ourselves, alright? 1499 01:11:01,791 --> 01:11:05,118 On the count of three, cheer as loud as you can. 1500 01:11:04,970 --> 01:11:07,237 One, two, three, go! 1501 01:11:07,264 --> 01:11:10,865 [crowd cheering] 1502 01:11:10,893 --> 01:11:13,000 ♪ 1503 01:11:13,061 --> 01:11:15,002 KEVIN: Last chance, here we go. 1504 01:11:15,022 --> 01:11:18,356 One, two, three, scream! 1505 01:11:18,275 --> 01:11:21,710 [crowd screaming] 1506 01:11:21,737 --> 01:11:25,071 ♪ 1507 01:11:25,190 --> 01:11:29,075 ♪ 1508 01:11:29,194 --> 01:11:33,079 ♪ 1509 01:11:33,198 --> 01:11:35,340 ♪ 1510 01:11:35,292 --> 01:11:37,408 [applause and cheering] 1511 01:11:37,527 --> 01:11:38,910 KEVIN: Enjoy your lives. 1512 01:11:38,796 --> 01:11:40,987 We are, and will always be, Broken Social Scene. 1513 01:11:41,106 --> 01:11:42,380 Goodnight and thank you for this. 1514 01:11:42,299 --> 01:11:43,931 This was incredible. 1515 01:11:43,926 --> 01:11:47,085 [loud cheering and applause] 1516 01:11:47,203 --> 01:11:50,204 [music stops] 1517 01:11:50,098 --> 01:11:52,766 [applause continues] 1518 01:11:53,769 --> 01:11:56,561 CROWD: [chanting] One more song! 1519 01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,456 One more song! One more song! 1520 01:11:59,483 --> 01:12:02,124 One more song! One more song! 1521 01:12:01,985 --> 01:12:04,753 [chanting continues] 1522 01:12:04,738 --> 01:12:07,447 One more song! One more song! 1523 01:12:07,566 --> 01:12:11,058 One more song! One more song! 1524 01:12:11,119 --> 01:12:13,394 One more song! One more song! 1525 01:12:13,455 --> 01:12:15,497 [chanting continues] 1526 01:12:22,381 --> 01:12:25,799 [chanting continues] 1527 01:12:32,206 --> 01:12:33,956 [cheering and booing] 1528 01:12:33,851 --> 01:12:35,976 ANNOUNCER: Oh my God! 1529 01:12:36,094 --> 01:12:38,478 70,000 people! 1530 01:12:42,985 --> 01:12:45,126 -I think we're done! [laughs] 1531 01:12:45,245 --> 01:12:48,554 ♪ 1532 01:12:48,574 --> 01:12:51,716 ♪ 1533 01:12:51,835 --> 01:12:54,719 ♪ 1534 01:12:54,705 --> 01:12:58,197 ["Superconnected" by Broken Social Scene] 1535 01:12:58,316 --> 01:13:03,228 ♪ 1536 01:13:03,346 --> 01:13:07,424 ♪ 1537 01:13:07,584 --> 01:13:10,176 ♪ Does it come in cages? ♪ 1538 01:13:10,295 --> 01:13:13,421 ♪ Does it come in threes? ♪ 1539 01:13:13,581 --> 01:13:16,332 ♪ Shipping on our time ♪ 1540 01:13:16,393 --> 01:13:18,501 ♪ Shipping on our seas ♪ 1541 01:13:18,395 --> 01:13:21,946 ♪ Never the carpet ♪ 1542 01:13:22,065 --> 01:13:24,900 ♪ Never the key ♪ 1543 01:13:25,018 --> 01:13:27,936 ♪ Art can fail you ♪ 1544 01:13:28,096 --> 01:13:31,106 ♪ Not for me to believe ♪ 1545 01:13:31,033 --> 01:13:33,291 ♪ And I won't be leavin' ♪ 1546 01:13:33,243 --> 01:13:36,177 ♪ And everyone can see ♪ 1547 01:13:36,204 --> 01:13:38,763 ♪ There's a dirty cheque stub ♪ 1548 01:13:38,749 --> 01:13:42,417 ♪ I know, I know they're free ♪ 1549 01:13:48,634 --> 01:13:50,258 CHARLIE (V.O.): I remember the band broke up 1550 01:13:50,377 --> 01:13:51,343 over and over again. 1551 01:13:51,461 --> 01:13:52,827 Like, "This is our last show!" 1552 01:13:52,888 --> 01:13:55,054 "No, this is really our last show!" 1553 01:13:54,973 --> 01:13:58,165 We didn't like the idea of chasing our dreams or whatever. 1554 01:13:58,226 --> 01:14:00,109 It was just like we're living it. 1555 01:14:00,103 --> 01:14:02,912 This is what we do. 1556 01:14:02,773 --> 01:14:06,799 -I, uh, I gotta say my heart is... [tapping] 1557 01:14:06,818 --> 01:14:08,042 -Are you nervous? 1558 01:14:08,203 --> 01:14:11,637 -Not nervous, it's just, we sound like shit on TV, so... 1559 01:14:11,657 --> 01:14:15,367 You know, when you don't rehearse and you just hang out 1560 01:14:15,485 --> 01:14:17,393 and you're always on the cusp of breaking up, 1561 01:14:17,454 --> 01:14:18,912 you've gotta take some pavement licks. 1562 01:14:19,030 --> 01:14:21,839 [sound of traffic] 1563 01:14:21,792 --> 01:14:23,333 KEVIN: I realize, like, Social Scene, 1564 01:14:23,493 --> 01:14:25,894 we just did stuff out of friendship. 1565 01:14:25,879 --> 01:14:29,589 I don't necessarily know if that comes across well on TV, 1566 01:14:29,708 --> 01:14:31,065 because TV makes everybody think 1567 01:14:30,926 --> 01:14:34,852 that that's how it's supposed to be. 1568 01:14:34,805 --> 01:14:37,371 Hey, there it is right there. There's the Late Show building. 1569 01:14:37,265 --> 01:14:39,540 -What do we do? How do we get in? 1570 01:14:39,601 --> 01:14:41,208 -Uh, we just go around the corner. 1571 01:14:41,269 --> 01:14:42,276 KEVIN: Big day coming, champion. 1572 01:14:42,270 --> 01:14:43,344 -Big day. 1573 01:14:43,463 --> 01:14:44,829 KEVIN: Into the homes of fuckin'... 1574 01:14:44,948 --> 01:14:45,838 -Millions. 1575 01:14:45,957 --> 01:14:48,583 -Here we go, 219. 1576 01:14:48,701 --> 01:14:50,284 -Justin. Nice to meet you. -Hi! 1577 01:14:50,278 --> 01:14:51,419 -A pleasure. -I'm Kevin. 1578 01:14:51,405 --> 01:14:52,921 -How are you? -Very well. 1579 01:14:53,081 --> 01:14:54,322 -Hi! 1580 01:14:54,441 --> 01:14:56,557 -Meet the band: there's a lot of us! 1581 01:14:56,618 --> 01:14:58,684 LETTERMAN: Our next guests are an acclaimed band 1582 01:14:58,804 --> 01:15:01,029 from, uh, Toronto. Great city. 1583 01:15:01,147 --> 01:15:03,289 Uh, this is their current self-titled CD. 1584 01:15:03,408 --> 01:15:06,701 Please welcome Broken Social Scene! 1585 01:15:06,861 --> 01:15:10,005 [applause] 1586 01:15:10,123 --> 01:15:13,733 ♪ 1587 01:15:13,719 --> 01:15:17,595 ♪ 1588 01:15:17,714 --> 01:15:21,658 ♪ 1589 01:15:21,685 --> 01:15:25,787 ♪ 1590 01:15:25,772 --> 01:15:28,732 -♪ Fire eye'd boy gave them all the slip ♪ 1591 01:15:28,892 --> 01:15:31,976 ♪ Fire eye'd boy gave them all the slip ♪ 1592 01:15:32,094 --> 01:15:34,887 ♪ If you're going to come, you better make it quick ♪ 1593 01:15:34,906 --> 01:15:38,199 ♪ Fire eye'd boy gave them all the slip ♪ 1594 01:15:40,587 --> 01:15:43,479 -Oh, wow. That was good, B. -Yeah. 1595 01:15:43,540 --> 01:15:45,073 That's the big time. 1596 01:15:45,233 --> 01:15:46,082 David Letterman. 1597 01:15:47,794 --> 01:15:49,586 -We work hard. -Yeah. 1598 01:15:50,756 --> 01:15:53,006 And there's a lot of fuckin' whatever they are. 1599 01:15:54,009 --> 01:15:56,542 -That's tuna. -That's a crunchy bun! 1600 01:15:56,661 --> 01:15:58,695 -That's stale, dude! -I guess. 1601 01:15:58,722 --> 01:16:00,055 -That's stale, isn't it? 1602 01:16:01,207 --> 01:16:02,123 -Yeah. 1603 01:16:02,184 --> 01:16:03,850 -I got this stuff on. 1604 01:16:14,488 --> 01:16:16,354 -Yeah, like right up in there, 1605 01:16:16,472 --> 01:16:18,155 there's some nice reflections happening. 1606 01:16:18,075 --> 01:16:19,490 -Yeah. 1607 01:16:19,409 --> 01:16:22,777 [indistinct conversation] 1608 01:16:22,662 --> 01:16:24,929 -[Indistinct] Christmas trees. 1609 01:16:24,915 --> 01:16:27,373 All the lights and the Christmas trees. 1610 01:16:27,492 --> 01:16:29,667 -Yeah! 1611 01:16:30,820 --> 01:16:31,961 Woo! 1612 01:16:33,632 --> 01:16:35,723 KEVIN: I think it's I'm either sick, 1613 01:16:35,717 --> 01:16:38,468 or I'm struggling to, you know, maintain some sanity. 1614 01:16:38,628 --> 01:16:40,211 I mean, yeah. 1615 01:16:40,329 --> 01:16:42,830 LESLIE (V.O.): Everyone knows what they've gleaned 1616 01:16:42,891 --> 01:16:44,599 from their own life experiences. 1617 01:16:45,718 --> 01:16:48,761 This bizarre job that we have stumbled into 1618 01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:52,506 gives us a strange sense of our opinions 1619 01:16:52,526 --> 01:16:54,375 needing a microphone. 1620 01:16:54,402 --> 01:16:56,044 BRENDAN (V.O.): Playing in the band, 1621 01:16:56,029 --> 01:16:59,638 it's half existential crisis and then half celebration. 1622 01:16:59,658 --> 01:17:01,215 It's like it's all the things. 1623 01:17:01,201 --> 01:17:03,718 It's all the things 'cause you're just... 1624 01:17:03,745 --> 01:17:07,838 You have to meld into this one organism. 1625 01:17:07,791 --> 01:17:13,978 ♪ It's a cruel world and it's time ♪ 1626 01:17:13,964 --> 01:17:17,957 ♪ 1627 01:17:17,843 --> 01:17:20,151 ♪ It's coming, it's coming in hard ♪ 1628 01:17:20,137 --> 01:17:23,078 ♪ It's coming, it's coming in hard... ♪ 1629 01:17:23,140 --> 01:17:25,806 ♪ It's coming, it's coming in hard ♪ 1630 01:17:25,725 --> 01:17:28,167 ♪ It's coming, it's coming in hard... ♪ 1631 01:17:28,186 --> 01:17:30,878 ♪ It's coming, it's coming in hard ♪ 1632 01:17:30,997 --> 01:17:33,772 ♪ It's coming, it's coming in hard... ♪ 1633 01:17:33,892 --> 01:17:36,151 ♪ It's coming, it's coming in... ♪ 1634 01:17:38,822 --> 01:17:42,373 EMILY (V.O.): People who were kids 1635 01:17:42,325 --> 01:17:44,442 had to grow up a little bit. 1636 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:45,927 It's all gonna break. 1637 01:17:45,912 --> 01:17:48,538 That's what we were experiencing. 1638 01:17:48,698 --> 01:17:50,431 STEPHEN (V.O.): And it's a bit fucked up 1639 01:17:50,458 --> 01:17:51,641 at that point, I imagine. 1640 01:17:51,668 --> 01:17:52,992 -It is, yeah. -Yeah, yeah, so... 1641 01:17:53,110 --> 01:17:55,678 -The honeymoon's over, man! -[both laugh] 1642 01:17:55,672 --> 01:17:57,013 -At that point. -Yeah. 1643 01:17:57,007 --> 01:17:58,197 -Definitely. 1644 01:17:58,216 --> 01:18:00,958 -♪ The worst things I thank you for... ♪ 1645 01:18:01,077 --> 01:18:03,077 EMILY (V.O.): Having friendships that are so deep 1646 01:18:03,138 --> 01:18:05,746 that you get called out in ways that you can 1647 01:18:05,807 --> 01:18:08,415 actually develop and grow. 1648 01:18:08,476 --> 01:18:10,735 That's why you make music, 1649 01:18:10,687 --> 01:18:13,229 to find out who you are. 1650 01:18:13,389 --> 01:18:15,231 BAND MEMBER (V.O.): It's just, it's too hard 1651 01:18:15,391 --> 01:18:17,358 to put into this one little box. 1652 01:18:22,657 --> 01:18:24,265 -Can't we make the song instrumental? 1653 01:18:24,284 --> 01:18:25,358 -Yeah. 1654 01:18:25,476 --> 01:18:27,235 -You two guys, outta here! 1655 01:18:27,395 --> 01:18:30,346 ♪ Fire eye'd boy gave them all the slip ♪ 1656 01:18:30,373 --> 01:18:34,108 ♪ Fire eye'd boy gave them all the slip... ♪ 1657 01:18:34,227 --> 01:18:36,994 ANDREW (V.O.): The group is this plastic, ever-informing, 1658 01:18:37,113 --> 01:18:39,756 ever-influencing and de-influencing each other, 1659 01:18:39,916 --> 01:18:41,524 but that's not the story. 1660 01:18:41,551 --> 01:18:44,977 And the only reason why I'm in with you in this movie now 1661 01:18:44,930 --> 01:18:48,214 is because part of the story is about you growing up 1662 01:18:48,332 --> 01:18:51,643 and your intersection with this group of people making art. 1663 01:18:54,088 --> 01:18:56,814 -I feel like I didn't grow up until I had kids. 1664 01:18:56,933 --> 01:18:59,000 KEVIN: I never saw somebody flip the script 1665 01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:00,752 and go and work harder than you. 1666 01:19:00,737 --> 01:19:02,011 When you had Quentin, 1667 01:19:02,072 --> 01:19:04,656 that's when we first started to not see you that much, 1668 01:19:04,774 --> 01:19:06,640 and then when you had Miles, you were gone. 1669 01:19:06,660 --> 01:19:07,867 -Yeah. -You were just like, 1670 01:19:07,986 --> 01:19:09,685 "I have to provide for my family." 1671 01:19:09,746 --> 01:19:11,913 -So you finish this, like, rough cut of the film. 1672 01:19:12,031 --> 01:19:13,081 What happens after that? 1673 01:19:13,199 --> 01:19:15,816 -They said... I can't even remember, but... 1674 01:19:15,835 --> 01:19:18,652 I wish I had the email still. It disappeared. 1675 01:19:18,772 --> 01:19:20,846 I want to say it felt like they said, 1676 01:19:20,799 --> 01:19:23,082 "This movie will never see the light of day!" 1677 01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,176 -There was lots of really great footage, 1678 01:19:25,295 --> 01:19:28,254 but I just didn't feel like there was enough of a story. 1679 01:19:28,372 --> 01:19:31,107 -He knew I was fuckin' devastated, I guess. 1680 01:19:31,101 --> 01:19:33,034 -I needed to make it up to you! 1681 01:19:33,061 --> 01:19:35,203 And you needed a second to just recalibrate, too. 1682 01:19:35,230 --> 01:19:36,287 -Yeah. 1683 01:19:36,273 --> 01:19:38,447 -'Cause, like I said, you were working so hard, 1684 01:19:38,441 --> 01:19:39,640 and those party days were over. 1685 01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,009 -Yeah. 1686 01:19:42,028 --> 01:19:44,645 KEVIN (V.O.): The seven years I knew you before 1687 01:19:44,805 --> 01:19:46,305 You Forgot it in People came out, 1688 01:19:46,424 --> 01:19:48,640 we were religiously listening to Pavement. 1689 01:19:48,660 --> 01:19:51,577 ♪ 1690 01:19:51,696 --> 01:19:54,839 KEVIN: Here we are in Seattle. 1691 01:19:54,957 --> 01:19:56,190 KEVIN (V.O.): Scott Kannberg, 1692 01:19:56,209 --> 01:19:58,392 who is "Spiral Stairs" in Pavement, 1693 01:19:58,420 --> 01:20:01,403 had invited me to come and stay in his home 1694 01:20:01,564 --> 01:20:04,673 for a few days in Seattle, and I wrote him back and said, 1695 01:20:04,634 --> 01:20:06,350 "Can I bring my friend Stephen?" 1696 01:20:06,303 --> 01:20:08,961 -We would love it if you could show some footage of 1697 01:20:08,847 --> 01:20:10,679 what we've done since we've been here. 1698 01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,807 [guitar tuning] 1699 01:20:15,603 --> 01:20:17,103 -He told me that you said that. 1700 01:20:17,221 --> 01:20:19,414 I don't know that. I don't believe it. Really? 1701 01:20:19,399 --> 01:20:20,606 -Episodes... -[laughs] 1702 01:20:20,725 --> 01:20:24,001 -Here we go, Stephen Chung and Spiral Stairs. 1703 01:20:23,820 --> 01:20:25,420 KEVIN: Are we spoonin' tonight? 1704 01:20:25,447 --> 01:20:26,487 We need to spoon! 1705 01:20:28,783 --> 01:20:30,499 -Hey, look at that. -We're on. 1706 01:20:30,493 --> 01:20:32,434 -You know you'd love to. -Yeah. 1707 01:20:32,329 --> 01:20:33,460 But you can't. 1708 01:20:33,371 --> 01:20:35,729 -Of course you can. Andrea would let you spoon me. 1709 01:20:35,790 --> 01:20:37,206 Come here! 1710 01:20:39,535 --> 01:20:42,036 KEVIN: How can you think that you can capture someone, 1711 01:20:42,196 --> 01:20:45,256 within taking photographs and filming things? 1712 01:20:45,375 --> 01:20:49,076 That's not ever capturing somebody's truth. 1713 01:20:49,137 --> 01:20:50,644 KEVIN (V.O.): We went down there. 1714 01:20:50,638 --> 01:20:52,180 He gave us these rare Pavement... 1715 01:20:52,298 --> 01:20:54,015 STEPHEN (V.O.): Dude, he gave me the motherlode. 1716 01:20:54,133 --> 01:20:56,225 KEVIN (V.O.): And I saw Scott giving him these vinyls, 1717 01:20:56,385 --> 01:20:58,394 and Stevie just took 'em and he just said, 1718 01:20:58,554 --> 01:20:59,395 "Thank you very much!" 1719 01:21:01,441 --> 01:21:03,774 KEVIN (V.O.): And I thought to myself, 1720 01:21:03,893 --> 01:21:05,201 "You're gonna be okay!" 1721 01:21:05,195 --> 01:21:07,111 SCOTT: Yeah, that's right! 1722 01:21:07,230 --> 01:21:09,730 Kevvy gets somethin' in the end! 1723 01:21:09,849 --> 01:21:12,300 -I'm okay. -I'm okay. 1724 01:21:12,327 --> 01:21:14,202 -I'm okay. 1725 01:21:15,396 --> 01:21:18,572 KEVIN: Goodbye, goodbye. This is ours. This is ours. 1726 01:21:18,691 --> 01:21:20,124 KEVIN: It was a lot of fun. 1727 01:21:20,243 --> 01:21:22,477 Thanks for filming it all, Stevie. 1728 01:21:22,504 --> 01:21:24,087 [Stephen laughs] 1729 01:21:26,733 --> 01:21:30,318 KEVIN (V.O.): Then I didn't see you much after then. 1730 01:21:30,303 --> 01:21:32,586 You went off and did your life. 1731 01:21:32,705 --> 01:21:34,447 And I went off and did mine. 1732 01:21:34,432 --> 01:21:37,491 ♪ 1733 01:21:37,477 --> 01:21:40,461 ♪ 1734 01:21:40,522 --> 01:21:42,555 ♪ 1735 01:21:42,673 --> 01:21:45,274 ♪ 1736 01:21:45,434 --> 01:21:47,393 JEFFREY (V.O.): What this band and this record 1737 01:21:47,511 --> 01:21:49,504 meant for people, 1738 01:21:49,531 --> 01:21:52,006 like, I think you can only see that looking back 1739 01:21:52,033 --> 01:21:55,535 with some time and distance and some perspective. 1740 01:21:55,653 --> 01:21:58,387 The fact that we're sitting here today is filled with optimism 1741 01:21:58,415 --> 01:22:01,516 that the answer you got in 2007 was not, "No," 1742 01:22:01,543 --> 01:22:03,384 but it was, "Not now." 1743 01:22:03,378 --> 01:22:04,518 -They were right. 1744 01:22:04,504 --> 01:22:06,053 The story wasn't ready. 1745 01:22:06,047 --> 01:22:07,688 It wasn't ready. 1746 01:22:07,690 --> 01:22:09,841 CHARLIE (V.O.): Like every band, it's always changing. 1747 01:22:09,959 --> 01:22:11,992 There is no such thing as BSS. 1748 01:22:12,053 --> 01:22:14,128 There is no such thing as Do Make Say Think. 1749 01:22:14,288 --> 01:22:17,164 There is no such thing as bands. 1750 01:22:17,058 --> 01:22:19,200 Like, it's fuckin' people. 1751 01:22:19,227 --> 01:22:22,470 -I'm curious why you felt like you needed to make this movie. 1752 01:22:22,630 --> 01:22:24,171 -Um, great question. 1753 01:22:24,190 --> 01:22:26,490 It was just like, "This is the time," 1754 01:22:26,443 --> 01:22:30,194 and I want to make a movie, and it's about this. 1755 01:22:31,564 --> 01:22:34,240 It's evolved, it's changed, but it's still, you know, 1756 01:22:34,358 --> 01:22:36,717 it's really about my relationship with these guys, 1757 01:22:36,877 --> 01:22:39,545 this group of amazing people, 1758 01:22:39,497 --> 01:22:42,707 this creative collaboration and friendship and love 1759 01:22:42,825 --> 01:22:46,218 and just having a good time together and being creative. 1760 01:22:46,171 --> 01:22:48,662 -They want to have the same traditional story 1761 01:22:48,822 --> 01:22:51,990 of how bands work, and it's bullshit because for us, 1762 01:22:52,110 --> 01:22:54,085 we had ups and downs and lefts and rights 1763 01:22:53,970 --> 01:22:55,219 and all kinds of things, 1764 01:22:55,338 --> 01:22:59,206 but we also had so much fun. It was so much fun. 1765 01:22:59,367 --> 01:23:01,284 STUART (V.O.): The thing that hasn't changed about this band 1766 01:23:01,311 --> 01:23:02,935 is they're still the best of friends, 1767 01:23:03,054 --> 01:23:05,212 and they've been through a lot of, you know, 1768 01:23:05,231 --> 01:23:08,273 roller coaster drama to get to this point. 1769 01:23:08,393 --> 01:23:10,884 -Goin' strong, 23 years later. 1770 01:23:10,904 --> 01:23:13,154 Everyone told us we were gonna break up. 1771 01:23:14,324 --> 01:23:15,748 We didn't; we're still here. 1772 01:23:15,700 --> 01:23:17,024 -I have to say thank you. 1773 01:23:17,142 --> 01:23:18,342 KEVIN: Oh, you're welcome. 1774 01:23:18,328 --> 01:23:20,928 -Because you've given me the time, you've welcomed me in, 1775 01:23:20,955 --> 01:23:22,938 and you just let me live with ya. 1776 01:23:22,832 --> 01:23:24,273 -You gave us memories, Stevie. 1777 01:23:24,334 --> 01:23:26,584 You gave us memories about things that 1778 01:23:26,702 --> 01:23:28,369 I would not have remembered and... 1779 01:23:28,529 --> 01:23:30,171 -No, I certainly would not have remembered. 1780 01:23:30,289 --> 01:23:31,905 -No. And people say, "Don't look back," 1781 01:23:31,925 --> 01:23:34,025 but I disagree with that. 1782 01:23:34,010 --> 01:23:36,193 I say look back so that you can know 1783 01:23:36,179 --> 01:23:37,695 how you continue on moving forward. 1784 01:23:37,813 --> 01:23:41,933 It was really cool to get on this journey with you again, 1785 01:23:42,051 --> 01:23:43,434 as annoying as it was. 1786 01:23:44,887 --> 01:23:46,954 In the end, it's always worth it. 1787 01:23:46,981 --> 01:23:48,055 -Cheers! -Cheers. 1788 01:23:48,173 --> 01:23:50,257 -Cheers. -Don't spill it on the Neumann! 1789 01:23:50,318 --> 01:23:51,275 -Yeah! 1790 01:23:51,352 --> 01:23:53,236 -[glasses clinking] -[indistinct conversation] 1791 01:23:53,396 --> 01:23:54,695 [laughter] 1792 01:23:57,867 --> 01:24:00,326 BRENDAN: There you go. I stand corrected. 1793 01:24:00,444 --> 01:24:02,586 -Chungie, that was so much fun, man. 1794 01:24:02,539 --> 01:24:03,846 [indistinct conversation] 1795 01:24:03,873 --> 01:24:06,015 -Yeah, that's the only way. 1796 01:24:06,042 --> 01:24:08,734 DAVE: You wanna resume with that quickly 1797 01:24:08,753 --> 01:24:10,144 and then move on? -Yeah. 1798 01:24:10,129 --> 01:24:12,546 -And then he goes, "That's how we broke up!" 1799 01:24:15,584 --> 01:24:17,684 BAND MEMBER: The documentary's comin', buddy! 1800 01:24:17,679 --> 01:24:20,363 DAVE: It's like, slow; I like it all that way. 1801 01:24:20,390 --> 01:24:22,365 ♪ I like it all that way. ♪ 1802 01:24:22,392 --> 01:24:24,867 KEVIN: ♪ I like it all that way. ♪ 1803 01:24:24,894 --> 01:24:26,644 DAVE: Yeah. Just to get nit-picky. 1804 01:24:28,356 --> 01:24:30,998 [laughter] 1805 01:24:30,984 --> 01:24:32,333 -Do this! Brendan! 1806 01:24:32,318 --> 01:24:33,667 -Say goodnight, everyone. 1807 01:24:33,653 --> 01:24:34,852 -Goodnight, everyone! 1808 01:24:34,970 --> 01:24:37,746 -And I'll see you in a couple days. 1809 01:24:37,740 --> 01:24:38,772 See ya! 1810 01:24:38,807 --> 01:24:41,275 KEVIN: I thought I did it, dude, and if I didn't, 1811 01:24:41,393 --> 01:24:42,626 then I'll never do it. 1812 01:24:42,579 --> 01:24:43,777 DAVE: I know, but it's... 1813 01:24:43,896 --> 01:24:45,629 ♪ I like it all that way. ♪ 1814 01:24:45,582 --> 01:24:48,132 That's just the way you used to sing it. It's sorta... 1815 01:24:48,084 --> 01:24:49,533 -How am I singing it now? 1816 01:24:49,651 --> 01:24:50,626 DAVE: You're like... 1817 01:24:50,786 --> 01:24:52,444 ♪ I like it all that way. ♪ 1818 01:24:52,463 --> 01:24:54,688 -♪ I like it all that way. ♪ -Yeah. 1819 01:24:54,674 --> 01:24:56,090 -Alright, let's try again. 1820 01:25:04,934 --> 01:25:08,452 ♪ 1821 01:25:08,571 --> 01:25:12,214 ♪ 1822 01:25:12,275 --> 01:25:15,709 ♪ 1823 01:25:15,737 --> 01:25:20,055 ♪ 1824 01:25:19,949 --> 01:25:21,815 [trumpet tuning] 1825 01:25:21,975 --> 01:25:23,442 -It works? -Yeah. 1826 01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:24,285 -Great. 1827 01:25:24,403 --> 01:25:25,952 BRENDAN: It's a big show! 1828 01:25:25,872 --> 01:25:26,954 It's the big show! 1829 01:25:27,073 --> 01:25:28,814 It's the big show...! 1830 01:25:28,933 --> 01:25:30,691 It's the big show! 1831 01:25:30,852 --> 01:25:32,168 It's the big show! 1832 01:25:36,132 --> 01:25:39,150 [crowd cheering] 1833 01:25:39,135 --> 01:25:40,801 -Sing it if you know it, come on. 1834 01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:45,030 [crowd singing along] 1835 01:25:45,016 --> 01:25:48,041 ♪ 1836 01:25:48,102 --> 01:25:51,328 KEVIN: ♪ I like it all that way ♪ 1837 01:25:51,314 --> 01:25:55,157 ♪ 1838 01:25:55,317 --> 01:25:58,477 ♪ I like it all that way ♪ 1839 01:25:58,595 --> 01:26:00,087 ♪ 1840 01:26:00,114 --> 01:26:01,405 [crowd cheering] 1841 01:26:08,456 --> 01:26:11,457 [crowd cheering, music playing] 1842 01:26:12,927 --> 01:26:16,361 -♪ I'll keep them out girl, yeah, I'll keep it true ♪ 1843 01:26:16,214 --> 01:26:19,173 ♪ I'll do anything inside the skin of you ♪ 1844 01:26:19,291 --> 01:26:24,269 ♪ Because I know that the sound of your heart 1845 01:26:24,222 --> 01:26:28,290 is a god I can trust ♪ 1846 01:26:28,184 --> 01:26:31,385 ♪ Like a man, not a boy, ♪ 1847 01:26:31,545 --> 01:26:34,522 ♪ I don't love, I just fight 1848 01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:38,759 with the violence in ourselves ♪ 1849 01:26:38,820 --> 01:26:42,596 ♪ 1850 01:26:42,615 --> 01:26:45,825 ♪ It's all... ♪ 1851 01:26:45,943 --> 01:26:48,677 [crowd cheering] 1852 01:26:48,705 --> 01:26:52,865 ♪ 1853 01:26:52,983 --> 01:26:58,145 [applause] 1854 01:26:58,305 --> 01:27:01,665 [applause] 1855 01:27:01,783 --> 01:27:02,967 ♪ Gonna break! ♪ 1856 01:27:03,085 --> 01:27:06,595 [crowd cheering] 1857 01:27:06,556 --> 01:27:10,015 ♪ It's all, all, all, all, all, all, all ♪ 1858 01:27:10,134 --> 01:27:12,184 ♪ 1859 01:27:12,303 --> 01:27:16,831 ♪ All, all, all... ♪ 1860 01:27:16,858 --> 01:27:22,920 ♪ All, all, all... ♪ 1861 01:27:23,038 --> 01:27:26,765 ♪ 1862 01:27:26,784 --> 01:27:31,612 ♪ 1863 01:27:31,772 --> 01:27:32,930 ♪ Gonna break! ♪ 1864 01:27:32,915 --> 01:27:36,033 ♪ 1865 01:27:36,151 --> 01:27:39,520 ♪ 1866 01:27:39,547 --> 01:27:42,731 ♪ 1867 01:27:42,759 --> 01:27:46,026 ♪ 1868 01:27:46,012 --> 01:27:49,538 ♪ 1869 01:27:49,599 --> 01:27:52,741 ♪ 1870 01:27:52,769 --> 01:27:56,620 ♪ 1871 01:27:56,606 --> 01:27:59,999 ♪ 1872 01:28:00,001 --> 01:28:01,675 ♪ 1873 01:28:01,736 --> 01:28:06,939 ♪ And you all want the lovely music to save your lives ♪ 1874 01:28:07,057 --> 01:28:08,424 ♪ 1875 01:28:08,451 --> 01:28:13,512 ♪ And you all want the lovely music to save your lives ♪ 1876 01:28:13,498 --> 01:28:14,821 ♪ 1877 01:28:14,940 --> 01:28:21,103 ♪ Keep it coming, there is no lie to save your life ♪ 1878 01:28:21,130 --> 01:28:22,421 ♪ 1879 01:28:22,540 --> 01:28:28,527 ♪ Keep it coming, this is the lie to save your life ♪ 1880 01:28:28,513 --> 01:28:33,907 ♪ 1881 01:28:33,935 --> 01:28:39,479 ♪ 1882 01:28:39,398 --> 01:28:41,123 [crowd cheering] 1883 01:28:41,150 --> 01:28:43,784 STEPHEN (V.O.): You were asked if the band was breaking up; 1884 01:28:43,778 --> 01:28:45,194 you said, "You can't break up something 1885 01:28:45,354 --> 01:28:46,270 "that's already broken." 1886 01:28:46,388 --> 01:28:47,571 -[laughs] Right! -You remember this? 1887 01:28:47,690 --> 01:28:48,914 -No. -No? 1888 01:28:48,991 --> 01:28:51,909 The only way you could destroy it is to actually fix it. 1889 01:28:52,027 --> 01:28:56,363 - Wow, I went-- I knew things long ago, apparently. 1890 01:28:56,481 --> 01:29:00,417 Well, yeah, what I said then. 1891 01:29:00,536 --> 01:29:02,603 I hope they don't fix it, then. 1892 01:29:02,630 --> 01:29:04,672 I hope this movie doesn't fix it. 1893 01:29:04,790 --> 01:29:08,133 ♪ 1894 01:29:08,252 --> 01:29:11,703 ♪ 1895 01:29:11,722 --> 01:29:15,507 ♪ 1896 01:29:15,626 --> 01:29:19,144 ♪ 1897 01:29:19,263 --> 01:29:22,973 ♪ 1898 01:29:23,091 --> 01:29:26,794 ♪ 1899 01:29:26,821 --> 01:29:30,573 ♪ 1900 01:29:34,996 --> 01:29:37,930 [people cheering] 1901 01:29:37,915 --> 01:29:41,725 ♪ 1902 01:29:41,711 --> 01:29:45,671 ♪ 1903 01:29:45,789 --> 01:29:49,024 EMILY: ♪ Used to be one of the wretched ones 1904 01:29:49,051 --> 01:29:52,419 and I liked you for that ♪ 1905 01:29:52,537 --> 01:29:55,272 Used to be one of the wretched ones 1906 01:29:55,224 --> 01:29:58,726 and I liked you for that 1907 01:30:01,597 --> 01:30:03,555 ♪ Used to be one of the wretched ones 1908 01:30:03,674 --> 01:30:05,015 and I liked you for that ♪ 1909 01:30:05,133 --> 01:30:07,893 ♪ Now you're all gone, got your make-up on 1910 01:30:08,011 --> 01:30:10,845 and you're not coming back, can't you come back? ♪ 1911 01:30:10,907 --> 01:30:14,241 ♪ Used to be one of the rotten ones 1912 01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:17,720 and I liked you for that ♪ 1913 01:30:17,747 --> 01:30:20,614 ♪ Used to be one of the rotten ones 1914 01:30:20,774 --> 01:30:24,150 and I liked you for that ♪ 1915 01:30:24,211 --> 01:30:27,087 ♪ Used to be one of the rotten ones 1916 01:30:27,206 --> 01:30:30,591 and I liked you for that ♪ 1917 01:30:30,709 --> 01:30:33,293 ♪ Now you're all gone, got your make-up on 1918 01:30:33,453 --> 01:30:36,722 and you're not coming back ♪ 1919 01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:39,833 ♪ Bleaching your teeth, smiling flash ♪ 1920 01:30:39,894 --> 01:30:42,986 ♪ Talking trash, under your breath ♪ 1921 01:30:42,939 --> 01:30:46,172 ♪ Bleaching your teeth, smiling flash ♪ 1922 01:30:46,233 --> 01:30:49,418 ♪ Talking trash, under your breath ♪ 1923 01:30:49,445 --> 01:30:52,470 ♪ Bleaching your teeth, smiling flash ♪ 1924 01:30:52,490 --> 01:30:55,649 ♪ Talking trash, under your breath ♪ 1925 01:30:55,767 --> 01:30:58,652 ♪ Bleaching your teeth, smiling flash ♪ 1926 01:30:58,770 --> 01:31:03,248 ♪ Talking trash, under my window ♪ 1927 01:31:03,367 --> 01:31:07,044 ♪ 1928 01:31:07,162 --> 01:31:10,147 [crowd cheering] 1929 01:31:10,132 --> 01:31:14,218 ♪ 1930 01:31:14,336 --> 01:31:20,282 ♪ 1931 01:31:20,309 --> 01:31:25,829 ♪ 1932 01:31:25,815 --> 01:31:32,294 ♪ 1933 01:31:32,321 --> 01:31:37,841 ♪ 1934 01:31:37,827 --> 01:31:43,864 ♪ 1935 01:31:43,982 --> 01:31:49,962 ♪ 1936 01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:56,142 ♪ Park that car ♪ 1937 01:31:56,137 --> 01:32:02,157 ♪ Drop that phone ♪ 1938 01:32:02,184 --> 01:32:08,163 ♪ Park that car 1939 01:32:08,190 --> 01:32:14,402 ♪ Drop that phone ♪ 1940 01:32:14,363 --> 01:32:17,481 ♪ Park that car, drop that phone ♪ 1941 01:32:17,366 --> 01:32:20,417 ♪ Sleep on the floor, dream about me ♪ 1942 01:32:20,369 --> 01:32:23,345 ♪ Park that car, drop that phone ♪ 1943 01:32:23,372 --> 01:32:26,423 ♪ Sleep on the floor, dream about me ♪ 1944 01:32:26,375 --> 01:32:29,351 ♪ Park that car, drop that phone ♪ 1945 01:32:29,511 --> 01:32:32,337 ♪ Sleep on the floor, dream about me ♪ 1946 01:32:32,456 --> 01:32:35,448 ♪ Park that car, drop that phone ♪ 1947 01:32:35,509 --> 01:32:37,885 ♪ Sleep on the floor, dream about me... ♪ 1948 01:32:41,515 --> 01:32:44,424 ♪ Sleep on the floor, dream about me ♪ 1949 01:32:44,543 --> 01:32:47,594 ♪ Park that car, drop that phone ♪ 1950 01:32:47,712 --> 01:32:50,630 ♪ Sleep on the floor, dream about me ♪ 1951 01:32:50,749 --> 01:32:53,484 ♪ Park that car, drop that phone... ♪ 1952 01:32:56,864 --> 01:32:59,697 ♪ Park that car, drop that phone ♪ 1953 01:32:59,617 --> 01:33:02,609 ♪ Sleep on the floor, dream about me ♪ 1954 01:33:02,727 --> 01:33:05,712 ♪ Park that car, drop that phone ♪ 1955 01:33:05,706 --> 01:33:08,698 ♪ Park that car, drop that phone ♪ 1956 01:33:08,817 --> 01:33:12,019 ♪ Park that car, drop that phone ♪ 1957 01:33:12,004 --> 01:33:15,297 ♪ Park that car, drop that phone ♪ 1958 01:33:15,457 --> 01:33:18,258 ♪ Park that car, drop that phone... ♪ 1959 01:33:22,598 --> 01:33:26,391 [applause and cheering] 1960 01:33:26,510 --> 01:33:30,395 [applause and cheering] 1961 01:33:30,514 --> 01:33:36,376 ♪ 1962 01:33:36,362 --> 01:33:42,216 ♪ 1963 01:33:42,243 --> 01:33:46,069 ♪ 1964 01:33:46,187 --> 01:33:48,922 ♪ Used to be one of the rotten ones 1965 01:33:48,916 --> 01:33:52,676 and I liked you for that ♪ 1966 01:33:52,628 --> 01:33:55,528 ♪ Now you're all gone, got your make-up on 1967 01:33:55,548 --> 01:33:59,749 and you're not coming back ♪ 1968 01:33:59,868 --> 01:34:04,138 [applause and cheering] 181422

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