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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,013 --> 00:00:14,931 Manly men, men, men 2 00:00:15,015 --> 00:00:18,143 Men, men, men, men, manly men 3 00:00:18,226 --> 00:00:20,603 Ooh-hoo-hoo, hoo-hoo, ooh 4 00:00:20,687 --> 00:00:23,815 Men, men, men, men Manly men, men, men 5 00:00:23,898 --> 00:00:27,360 Men, men, men, men Manly men, men, men 6 00:00:29,904 --> 00:00:33,783 I worked with Charlie Sheen for eight years, 7 00:00:33,867 --> 00:00:38,872 and if you wonder what it's like to work with Charlie Sheen for eight years, uh, 8 00:00:38,955 --> 00:00:40,915 when I started, I had hair. 9 00:00:43,835 --> 00:00:46,755 I had some trepidation about participating in this, 10 00:00:46,838 --> 00:00:49,466 partially because part of the cycle of Charlie's life 11 00:00:49,549 --> 00:00:52,302 has been, uh, that he messes up terribly, 12 00:00:52,385 --> 00:00:53,678 he hits rock-bottom, 13 00:00:53,762 --> 00:00:56,473 and then he gets things, uh, he gets things going again 14 00:00:56,556 --> 00:00:58,683 and brings a lot of positivity in his life, 15 00:00:58,767 --> 00:01:01,019 and that's when he burns himself out again, 16 00:01:01,102 --> 00:01:04,355 and he just can't help but set that house on fire. 17 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:06,900 And I didn't want to be a part of that cycle. 18 00:01:07,567 --> 00:01:10,695 I'm not here to build him up and I'm not here to tear him down. 19 00:01:13,031 --> 00:01:14,991 But I sure hope this doesn't go bad. 20 00:01:22,207 --> 00:01:25,293 It seemed it was going to be like any other flight. 21 00:01:25,376 --> 00:01:27,128 I wasn't like sloppy drunk, 22 00:01:27,212 --> 00:01:29,714 but I was already pretty half in the bag, you know. 23 00:01:31,132 --> 00:01:32,383 It was my first honeymoon. 24 00:01:33,885 --> 00:01:35,220 And Donna was-- 25 00:01:35,303 --> 00:01:38,223 I guess she was still reeling from the absence of romance 26 00:01:38,306 --> 00:01:41,768 in our soggy freaking wine excursion. 27 00:01:42,435 --> 00:01:44,521 Platoon and Wall Street were huge in Japan, 28 00:01:44,604 --> 00:01:47,315 and so I was selling Madras shoes, 29 00:01:47,398 --> 00:01:49,609 Tokyo Gas air conditioners and heaters, 30 00:01:49,692 --> 00:01:51,277 and Parliament cigarettes. 31 00:01:51,861 --> 00:01:55,824 Donna was the model in the Parliament commercial. 32 00:01:55,907 --> 00:01:59,786 Yes, tensions were high. We were a little short with each other. 33 00:01:59,869 --> 00:02:04,124 I finally just said, "Fuck it." I needed something quick and strong. 34 00:02:04,207 --> 00:02:07,418 So I power probably four, five, six shots. 35 00:02:09,879 --> 00:02:12,340 Of course, a lot of people recognize me. 36 00:02:15,468 --> 00:02:17,929 The navigator was outside the cockpit. 37 00:02:18,012 --> 00:02:21,099 "Mr. Sheen, would you like to come meet the captain?" 38 00:02:21,182 --> 00:02:22,684 I'm like, "Hell yeah!" Right? 39 00:02:24,769 --> 00:02:26,271 I go into the cockpit, 40 00:02:26,354 --> 00:02:29,899 and the captain gets up and he says, "Can we get a photo?" 41 00:02:30,567 --> 00:02:36,197 And I said, "Yes, but it'd be really cool if I was in your captain's jacket." 42 00:02:36,281 --> 00:02:37,824 He's like, "Oui, monsieur." 43 00:02:37,907 --> 00:02:40,910 "It'd even be cooler if I was wearing your cap." 44 00:02:40,994 --> 00:02:42,412 He's like, "Of course." 45 00:02:42,495 --> 00:02:45,790 I said, "If we're gonna do this, let's go all the way." 46 00:02:46,374 --> 00:02:48,126 "Can I sit in your seat?" 47 00:02:49,002 --> 00:02:51,546 But I'm approaching pirate drunk. 48 00:02:59,470 --> 00:03:02,807 The sun is just starting to peek through the horizon. 49 00:03:03,308 --> 00:03:06,895 And just rested my hands on the controls. 50 00:03:08,396 --> 00:03:09,689 George is flying the plane. 51 00:03:09,772 --> 00:03:12,901 That's like international code for autopilot, right? 52 00:03:13,401 --> 00:03:18,364 And I said, just making a joke, I said, "So is George still flying the plane?" 53 00:03:18,448 --> 00:03:20,408 And the copilot flicks a switch… 54 00:03:21,868 --> 00:03:23,411 …and says, "Not anymore." 55 00:03:24,913 --> 00:03:26,706 I'm sitting there thinking, "Fuck." 56 00:03:27,207 --> 00:03:28,833 I'm there, drunk, 57 00:03:29,459 --> 00:03:32,003 close to 300 people asleep behind me, 58 00:03:32,086 --> 00:03:34,255 an angry bride 20 feet behind me, 59 00:03:35,089 --> 00:03:37,467 and I start guiding this plane. 60 00:03:39,260 --> 00:03:42,513 Very, very subtle adjustments. 61 00:03:46,643 --> 00:03:50,271 And this just perfect, magical flying machine 62 00:03:50,355 --> 00:03:54,400 responding in a way that I cannot put in words. 63 00:04:00,406 --> 00:04:05,995 And then they saw that maybe this might get away from them. 64 00:04:12,835 --> 00:04:16,798 And the copilot turned George back on. 65 00:04:17,423 --> 00:04:21,636 And so then I felt the plane just kind of settle back into where it knew 66 00:04:21,719 --> 00:04:23,930 that it needed to be, you know. 67 00:04:28,184 --> 00:04:30,937 I sat back down, owning this experience. 68 00:04:31,437 --> 00:04:35,275 And I just knew that trouble was on the horizon. 69 00:04:35,358 --> 00:04:38,319 After just five months, Hollywood bad boy Charlie Sheen 70 00:04:38,403 --> 00:04:40,363 and model Donna Peele are calling it quits. 71 00:04:40,446 --> 00:04:42,448 Drunk off your ass… 72 00:04:42,532 --> 00:04:43,366 Drunk. 73 00:04:43,449 --> 00:04:45,868 …flying a passenger plane, 400 people behind you, 74 00:04:45,952 --> 00:04:49,289 are you thinking to yourself, "Holy shit, I'm untouchable"? 75 00:04:49,372 --> 00:04:53,209 Does that happen? Does that go through a guy's mind when he has that power? 76 00:04:54,752 --> 00:04:55,586 Yes. 77 00:05:05,471 --> 00:05:10,018 I am sitting in the morning At the diner on the corner… 78 00:05:10,101 --> 00:05:12,562 -Know the best about diners? -What? 79 00:05:13,646 --> 00:05:15,398 There's no surprises. 80 00:05:15,481 --> 00:05:16,899 If you walk into a diner 81 00:05:16,983 --> 00:05:19,944 with unrealistic expectations of what they have to offer… 82 00:05:20,028 --> 00:05:24,407 Doo-doo-doo-doo, doo-doo-doo-doo Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo 83 00:05:24,490 --> 00:05:26,034 …go fuck yourself. 84 00:05:26,534 --> 00:05:27,452 Cheers. 85 00:05:28,453 --> 00:05:31,414 Are you sober today? How long have you been sober? 86 00:05:33,166 --> 00:05:35,668 -I knew you were gonna ask me that. -Yeah. 87 00:05:35,752 --> 00:05:39,088 I am sober today. In my seventh year, which is pretty good. 88 00:05:39,172 --> 00:05:43,092 But by the time people see this, unless things go tragically sideways, 89 00:05:43,176 --> 00:05:45,303 uh, that will still be the case. 90 00:05:45,386 --> 00:05:46,971 Oh, we're ready to go? 91 00:05:51,017 --> 00:05:55,104 How do you imagine structuring the story of Charlie Sheen? 92 00:05:56,856 --> 00:05:58,983 I think we could break it down… 93 00:05:59,067 --> 00:06:03,029 …into these three portions or these three sections. 94 00:06:03,112 --> 00:06:04,739 It was partying, 95 00:06:04,822 --> 00:06:06,282 partying with problems… 96 00:06:06,366 --> 00:06:08,451 Fucking A, man! 97 00:06:08,534 --> 00:06:10,411 …and then just problems. 98 00:06:11,162 --> 00:06:12,538 Last time I took drugs, uh, 99 00:06:12,622 --> 00:06:16,250 I probably took more than anybody could survive, you know? 100 00:06:16,334 --> 00:06:18,669 -What are we talking about? How much? -I don't know. 101 00:06:18,753 --> 00:06:21,964 I was banging seven-gram rocks and finishing them. That's how I roll. 102 00:06:22,048 --> 00:06:23,966 I have one speed, one gear. "Go." 103 00:06:24,050 --> 00:06:27,387 Charlie Sheen was among the clients of her $1,500 hookers. 104 00:06:27,970 --> 00:06:30,598 Is there gonna be anything off-limits? 105 00:06:32,016 --> 00:06:32,934 No. 106 00:06:33,017 --> 00:06:35,770 You know there are a lot of rumors out there right now, 107 00:06:35,853 --> 00:06:37,814 and you would like to address them head-on. 108 00:06:37,897 --> 00:06:41,192 I'm here to admit that I am, in fact, HIV-positive. 109 00:06:41,275 --> 00:06:43,820 When you got a lot of shame about a lot of stuff, 110 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,114 shame-- shame is suffocating. 111 00:06:46,197 --> 00:06:49,742 -Your husband's name? -It's Charlie Sheen. 112 00:06:49,826 --> 00:06:51,035 But in the same way, 113 00:06:51,119 --> 00:06:56,874 shame can turn into someone's North Star, you know, or their South Star. 114 00:06:56,958 --> 00:06:59,961 Or the Death Star, you know? Um… 115 00:07:00,044 --> 00:07:01,546 Where are you with that? 116 00:07:01,629 --> 00:07:03,256 I'm, uh… 117 00:07:03,339 --> 00:07:05,758 He spent much of Christmas Day on lockdown. 118 00:07:05,842 --> 00:07:07,552 The stuff I plan on sharing, 119 00:07:07,635 --> 00:07:12,723 I had made a sacred vow years ago to only reveal to a therapist. 120 00:07:12,807 --> 00:07:14,976 You judged me, condemned me, discarded me. 121 00:07:15,059 --> 00:07:17,728 Well, not anymore. Winning! 122 00:07:20,398 --> 00:07:24,819 I think there's so many stories and many ingrained images in people's minds 123 00:07:24,902 --> 00:07:27,405 about the concept of me. 124 00:07:27,989 --> 00:07:29,866 Not even, like, think of me as a person. 125 00:07:29,949 --> 00:07:34,829 They think of me as a concept or a specific moment in time. 126 00:07:43,838 --> 00:07:45,590 There's only one person alive 127 00:07:45,673 --> 00:07:52,472 that has the answers to… to so many people's questions about me. 128 00:07:52,972 --> 00:07:53,973 And that's… 129 00:07:56,976 --> 00:08:00,146 I can feel no sense of measure 130 00:08:00,229 --> 00:08:04,859 No illusions as we take 131 00:08:04,942 --> 00:08:09,572 Refuge in young man's pleasure 132 00:08:09,655 --> 00:08:16,329 Breaking down the dreams we make 133 00:08:16,412 --> 00:08:17,538 Real 134 00:08:22,668 --> 00:08:24,086 Fuck, somebody call "Action." 135 00:08:24,795 --> 00:08:26,881 One down, one to go 136 00:08:26,964 --> 00:08:29,675 Another town and one more show 137 00:08:29,759 --> 00:08:33,179 Downtown, they're givin' away But she never came back 138 00:08:33,262 --> 00:08:35,598 I was born dead. Yeah, I had the umbilical wrapped. 139 00:08:36,432 --> 00:08:38,684 There was no signs of life. 140 00:08:38,768 --> 00:08:40,061 Dad was a devout Catholic, 141 00:08:40,144 --> 00:08:44,273 and he was already looking for a priest to deliver some last rites. 142 00:08:44,357 --> 00:08:46,859 Mom was way more optimistic. She had faith. 143 00:08:47,735 --> 00:08:52,240 And the doctor beat me black and blue until there were signs of life. 144 00:08:52,323 --> 00:08:54,575 So… …good start. 145 00:08:58,788 --> 00:09:00,039 Leave it 146 00:09:01,290 --> 00:09:05,628 When your life starts like that, basically doesn't start, 147 00:09:05,711 --> 00:09:07,547 it can do a number on your head. 148 00:09:09,173 --> 00:09:11,676 My birth name is Carlos Irwin Estevez. 149 00:09:13,052 --> 00:09:16,681 And Irwin came from the doctor that delivered me and saved me. 150 00:09:18,432 --> 00:09:19,684 There's four of us. 151 00:09:19,767 --> 00:09:22,478 I'm third, and Ramon is right above me, 152 00:09:22,562 --> 00:09:25,231 and Emilio's above him, and my sister's below me. 153 00:09:25,773 --> 00:09:26,732 You must believe me. 154 00:09:26,816 --> 00:09:29,277 -I'm telling the truth. -Oh, you've lied so much. 155 00:09:29,860 --> 00:09:32,238 The mission focus was Dad and his job. 156 00:09:32,321 --> 00:09:33,239 Can you help me? 157 00:09:34,031 --> 00:09:35,658 I'm gonna get ahold of Frank Kamer, 158 00:09:35,741 --> 00:09:37,702 have him take a look at you, run some tests. 159 00:09:38,411 --> 00:09:41,914 Ladies and gentlemen, Martin Sheen! 160 00:09:44,250 --> 00:09:46,586 Lived in New York 'til I was three. 161 00:09:46,669 --> 00:09:52,049 And then Dad, well, he decided early on, "Sell the furniture, it's time." 162 00:09:52,133 --> 00:09:54,594 "We're… we're outtie." 163 00:09:56,470 --> 00:09:58,556 Malibu was very rural at the time, 164 00:09:58,639 --> 00:10:04,312 and kind of removed from Los Angeles and all of that hubbub. 165 00:10:04,812 --> 00:10:07,481 There was a freedom of spirit in the air, 166 00:10:07,565 --> 00:10:10,651 and the place wasn't overrun, it wasn't super crowded. 167 00:10:10,735 --> 00:10:14,196 You could travel the highway any time of day with relative ease. 168 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,283 It wasn't a community of mansions. 169 00:10:18,743 --> 00:10:20,995 I met him before he was Charlie Sheen. 170 00:10:21,078 --> 00:10:23,289 I met him when he was Carlos Estevez. 171 00:10:23,873 --> 00:10:28,836 People think that just because it was Martin Sheen that they grew up very rich. 172 00:10:28,919 --> 00:10:29,879 That's far from it. 173 00:10:30,921 --> 00:10:34,342 I used to go to his house and stay in, what do you call those, beanbags? 174 00:10:34,425 --> 00:10:37,345 There was nothing extravagant about what they had. 175 00:10:37,428 --> 00:10:39,013 They didn't grow up with that life. 176 00:10:40,681 --> 00:10:43,434 So you had auto mechanics and school teachers on your street. 177 00:10:43,517 --> 00:10:44,644 Nothing like today. 178 00:10:45,895 --> 00:10:49,649 Like I say, it was great because it was kinda like Huckleberry Finn by the water. 179 00:10:52,652 --> 00:10:54,570 We shared a moment of youth that's magic. 180 00:10:54,654 --> 00:10:55,905 Let's go, man. 181 00:10:55,988 --> 00:11:01,994 We were surrounded by an air of just a general freedom of expression. 182 00:11:02,078 --> 00:11:07,083 I mean… they'll hate me for revealing this, but, you know, 183 00:11:07,166 --> 00:11:11,253 my parents, maybe for a month, or five, I don't know, 184 00:11:11,337 --> 00:11:14,340 they practiced nudism, you know? 185 00:11:14,924 --> 00:11:17,343 So yeah, I'm five, walking in the kitchen, and… 186 00:11:18,678 --> 00:11:20,805 there's my naked parents. 187 00:11:21,555 --> 00:11:23,182 -What are you doing? -Mom-- 188 00:11:23,891 --> 00:11:25,518 Cut it out, Mom. 189 00:11:25,601 --> 00:11:28,062 My parents gave us our first Super 8 Camera 190 00:11:28,145 --> 00:11:29,814 when I was six or seven. 191 00:11:30,481 --> 00:11:31,691 Hey, brother, 192 00:11:31,774 --> 00:11:37,738 did you guys out there ever try this new American Continental hairdo, man? 193 00:11:37,822 --> 00:11:39,782 It's the newest style, man. 194 00:11:39,865 --> 00:11:44,120 You see, they just take a wet rag, man, and they rub it through your hair. 195 00:11:44,203 --> 00:11:46,288 It's like a dinosaur's tail, man. 196 00:11:46,372 --> 00:11:48,207 It's really weird, man. 197 00:11:49,917 --> 00:11:55,381 We started instantly with, "All right, here's how much time we have." 198 00:11:55,464 --> 00:11:58,426 "Here's our cast. Here's the plot." 199 00:11:58,509 --> 00:12:01,470 "So-and-so has done something to this person, 200 00:12:01,554 --> 00:12:04,932 "and so this guy has to seek revenge." 201 00:12:05,015 --> 00:12:09,603 I don't wanna know your name 202 00:12:10,312 --> 00:12:12,481 'Cause you don't look the same 203 00:12:12,565 --> 00:12:14,942 My brother, Emilio, was always with me. 204 00:12:15,025 --> 00:12:19,405 The way you did before 205 00:12:19,488 --> 00:12:20,781 Okay 206 00:12:20,865 --> 00:12:21,907 The Mighty Ducks! 207 00:12:21,991 --> 00:12:23,659 You think you got a pretty face 208 00:12:23,743 --> 00:12:25,745 It was really the only time that he and I 209 00:12:25,828 --> 00:12:27,955 were focused on a common goal. 210 00:12:29,290 --> 00:12:33,252 Everything outside of that was pretty uncommon. 211 00:12:33,335 --> 00:12:36,505 We had a rivalry that, um, that went on for a long time. 212 00:12:38,174 --> 00:12:40,801 Fox on the run 213 00:12:40,885 --> 00:12:45,931 You scream And everybody come a-running 214 00:12:46,015 --> 00:12:51,312 Take a run and hide yourself away 215 00:12:53,063 --> 00:12:55,441 -Charlie, is there film in there? -Hell yeah. 216 00:12:55,524 --> 00:12:56,484 Fuck you. 217 00:12:58,235 --> 00:13:00,571 And those Super 8 films, 218 00:13:01,238 --> 00:13:03,073 that was our canvas. 219 00:13:10,873 --> 00:13:14,168 Being on location with Dad really became our film school. 220 00:13:15,503 --> 00:13:17,463 Especially during Apocalypse Now. 221 00:13:20,299 --> 00:13:24,386 It was just one of those life-changing experiences, you know? 222 00:13:25,930 --> 00:13:27,598 My dad made that very clear 223 00:13:27,681 --> 00:13:29,934 that he wanted us to be with him in his work. 224 00:13:30,017 --> 00:13:32,144 He didn't want the family dynamic to suffer 225 00:13:32,228 --> 00:13:35,022 just because he had this job somewhere else. 226 00:13:35,606 --> 00:13:40,444 And I thought we were incredibly lucky to be able to go along with. 227 00:13:40,528 --> 00:13:43,572 So I'm in the Philippines, on Apocalypse. 228 00:13:43,656 --> 00:13:45,616 I think I was 11 by then. 229 00:13:45,699 --> 00:13:50,329 The scope of the production, the length of the production, 230 00:13:50,412 --> 00:13:53,123 the exposure to the talent. 231 00:13:53,207 --> 00:13:54,458 …afraid to say something… 232 00:13:54,542 --> 00:13:57,044 Written by, directed by Francis Ford Coppola. 233 00:13:57,127 --> 00:14:00,214 Our most influential and important filmmaker, 234 00:14:00,297 --> 00:14:02,716 the man responsible for The Godfather. 235 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,762 His current giant film took three and a half years. 236 00:14:09,014 --> 00:14:11,600 Your dad was struggling with substances, right? 237 00:14:11,684 --> 00:14:13,310 -Yeah. -That was that story. 238 00:14:13,394 --> 00:14:15,646 -Yeah. -Did you know that? 239 00:14:16,146 --> 00:14:17,231 I sensed it. 240 00:14:17,314 --> 00:14:21,235 There is a moment, um, in the Philippines 241 00:14:21,318 --> 00:14:24,905 that is as crystal clear as though it happened yesterday. 242 00:14:25,531 --> 00:14:30,077 And we were outdoors at lunch early at one of the tables, you know? 243 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,038 I remember Dad sitting down right next to me. 244 00:14:33,122 --> 00:14:35,624 I remember I could smell it. I could smell the booze. 245 00:14:35,708 --> 00:14:40,421 And he wasn't home, he wasn't there. And he had a Ka-Bar knife. 246 00:14:41,171 --> 00:14:44,049 And he put it between his teeth. 247 00:14:44,550 --> 00:14:48,429 And he turned to me with that knife between his teeth. 248 00:14:48,929 --> 00:14:50,931 And I was just like… 249 00:14:51,682 --> 00:14:55,728 It was-- He was-- He had departed. 250 00:14:56,228 --> 00:15:01,317 So then I come to find out that that was in the middle of the opening sequence. 251 00:15:10,451 --> 00:15:11,452 Come back! 252 00:15:18,792 --> 00:15:21,629 He was there for a couple of months without us, 253 00:15:21,712 --> 00:15:24,798 and then started hearing rumors that Dad was sick. 254 00:15:25,382 --> 00:15:29,803 Dave Salven let Melissa tell Barry Hirsch Marty had a heart attack. 255 00:15:29,887 --> 00:15:31,597 What the fuck is that? 256 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,184 Do you know that's gonna be all over Hollywood in half an hour? 257 00:15:35,267 --> 00:15:36,810 If Marty dies, 258 00:15:36,894 --> 00:15:41,649 I want to hear that everything's okay until I say Marty is dead. You got it? 259 00:15:42,316 --> 00:15:47,863 When we came back to the Philippines and saw him for the first time, 260 00:15:47,947 --> 00:15:50,532 he was taking baby steps on a cane. 261 00:15:50,616 --> 00:15:55,537 And he was crying, and he was devoid of that dad light. 262 00:15:56,914 --> 00:15:58,457 It was gone, you know? 263 00:15:59,833 --> 00:16:03,253 I had brought baseball gloves. I was playing baseball at the time. 264 00:16:03,337 --> 00:16:07,508 So we'd go out somewhere on the grounds, and we'd start throwing the ball. 265 00:16:07,591 --> 00:16:10,719 The first day, it might have been at five feet for ten throws. 266 00:16:10,803 --> 00:16:12,846 Next day it might've been at ten feet for 15 throws. 267 00:16:12,930 --> 00:16:14,807 And this went on and on and on 268 00:16:14,890 --> 00:16:20,229 until we were at a decent distance, and, you know, just playing catch. 269 00:16:20,813 --> 00:16:26,694 He credits me with having a major hand in helping him during his rehab. 270 00:16:26,777 --> 00:16:30,781 To get his strength back, his focus back, just get his life back. 271 00:16:32,825 --> 00:16:34,618 Yeah, this fucking mattered. 272 00:16:40,332 --> 00:16:42,584 Yeah, it was, um… 273 00:16:42,668 --> 00:16:48,590 It just redefined that age-old moment of a father-son playing catch. 274 00:16:50,801 --> 00:16:54,513 But it's hard not to visit that and not get a little choked up 275 00:16:54,596 --> 00:17:00,602 because I know what it meant to him, what it still means to him, you know? 276 00:17:09,695 --> 00:17:15,868 I think it's hard for sons to always, you know, share with their fathers 277 00:17:15,951 --> 00:17:17,745 what's truly in their heart. 278 00:17:18,912 --> 00:17:24,918 I hope he sees some of this as the love letter to him that it is. 279 00:17:25,544 --> 00:17:28,630 Emilio and Dad, they fully support me. 280 00:17:29,173 --> 00:17:33,260 They're rooting for me in ways you can't even imagine. 281 00:17:33,802 --> 00:17:37,765 But I can't expect people to revisit all the drug abuse 282 00:17:37,848 --> 00:17:42,061 and all the shitty choices that hurt the people I love. 283 00:17:48,150 --> 00:17:51,487 Yeah, would I love them both in this? Absolutely. 284 00:17:51,570 --> 00:17:55,532 But I completely understand why they chose not to. 285 00:17:56,742 --> 00:17:58,619 You got me smoking now. 286 00:18:01,413 --> 00:18:03,791 It's your second heart attack, Dad. 287 00:18:04,666 --> 00:18:06,376 I guess I never told you. 288 00:18:07,669 --> 00:18:09,171 But I love you, Dad. 289 00:18:13,175 --> 00:18:17,971 We kept making Super 8 films back on the ranch. 290 00:18:19,264 --> 00:18:21,016 What are you doing? 291 00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:23,894 And after Apocalypse, the Super 8's got way darker. 292 00:18:23,977 --> 00:18:25,771 A lot of murder in your movies. 293 00:18:32,319 --> 00:18:34,363 Look what was happening to our dad. 294 00:18:38,117 --> 00:18:42,913 We were basically duplicating, emulating what Dad was doing. 295 00:18:44,873 --> 00:18:46,750 I was five and he was six 296 00:18:46,834 --> 00:18:50,129 We rode on horses make of sticks 297 00:18:50,212 --> 00:18:52,923 He wore black and I wore white 298 00:18:53,006 --> 00:18:55,467 He would always win the fight 299 00:18:55,551 --> 00:18:58,178 Bang bang, he shot me down 300 00:18:58,262 --> 00:19:01,223 Bang bang, I hit the ground 301 00:19:01,306 --> 00:19:04,101 Bang bang, that awful sound 302 00:19:04,184 --> 00:19:08,939 Bang bang, my baby shot me down 303 00:19:09,022 --> 00:19:12,192 We got, I don't want to say numbed, 304 00:19:12,276 --> 00:19:17,656 but we kind of grew accustomed to watching our father die on film. 305 00:19:21,034 --> 00:19:22,411 Oh my God! 306 00:19:24,413 --> 00:19:26,248 But I think we recognized early on, 307 00:19:26,331 --> 00:19:28,041 those types of plot lines were compelling. 308 00:19:28,125 --> 00:19:30,544 No! 309 00:19:30,627 --> 00:19:34,214 What you are seeing here is a man in great pain, 310 00:19:34,298 --> 00:19:36,800 beaten by the Mob and dying. 311 00:19:38,510 --> 00:19:41,054 If you decide to do it, I got to know by tonight. 312 00:19:41,138 --> 00:19:43,557 -What about the money? -Money's no problem. 313 00:19:44,057 --> 00:19:47,102 Martin was a big thing for all of us. 314 00:19:47,186 --> 00:19:50,397 -Don't you have anything better to do? -I wanted to… 315 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:51,440 Do you have to push? 316 00:19:51,523 --> 00:19:55,736 I know whose dog that is. I know what you did to my little brother. 317 00:19:55,819 --> 00:19:57,029 Son of a bitch! 318 00:19:57,112 --> 00:20:00,157 I'm doing nothing, man. I'm here and I'm doing nothing. 319 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,784 -So it's a little boring. I mean-- -It's a lot boring. 320 00:20:07,664 --> 00:20:14,046 So I guess it felt like we were close to the actual world of it. 321 00:20:23,180 --> 00:20:29,269 It's important to note that in and around a lot of the Super 8 film productions… 322 00:20:32,189 --> 00:20:34,233 …there was a lot of weed involved. 323 00:20:34,316 --> 00:20:37,694 So that was really the first drug. There was a lot of pot. 324 00:20:40,739 --> 00:20:43,784 Drugs played a large role in it as they got older 325 00:20:43,867 --> 00:20:47,996 and started experimenting with, uh… everything. 326 00:20:52,584 --> 00:20:55,420 Well, it's weird, I drank the stuff, and I just… 327 00:20:55,504 --> 00:20:57,464 I can't seem to remember what happened next. 328 00:20:57,547 --> 00:21:01,343 But yeah, and you know, just the typical booze habits 329 00:21:01,426 --> 00:21:04,638 that kids that age would have. 330 00:21:05,180 --> 00:21:08,141 I think my first drink was a Mickey's Big Mouth. Remember those? 331 00:21:09,434 --> 00:21:13,730 Yeah, I downed like two of them, thinking this is how it's done, you know, 332 00:21:13,814 --> 00:21:16,275 and then spent the next hour puking. 333 00:21:16,358 --> 00:21:22,030 And then I guess the normal person parks it and says, "That didn't work out." 334 00:21:22,114 --> 00:21:24,825 The abnormal person says, 335 00:21:24,908 --> 00:21:29,621 "I'm feeling good enough to try again, hopefully with a better result," you know. 336 00:21:30,372 --> 00:21:33,083 You have this other friend in Tony Todd, 337 00:21:33,166 --> 00:21:34,751 who had nothing to do with that, right? 338 00:21:34,835 --> 00:21:36,003 No, none of it. 339 00:21:36,086 --> 00:21:38,046 Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo 340 00:21:38,130 --> 00:21:41,883 Tony's one of my favorite people ever. One of my best friends in this lifetime. 341 00:21:42,634 --> 00:21:48,056 He's as reliable and compassionate and loyal and committed 342 00:21:48,140 --> 00:21:51,018 as anyone could ever ask for, you know? 343 00:21:51,101 --> 00:21:53,228 Well, every person needs a Black friend, so… 344 00:21:53,312 --> 00:21:55,689 I'm just kidding. But I think they do. 345 00:21:55,772 --> 00:21:58,817 What brought us together was our passion for sports. 346 00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:01,236 He's very competitive. I'm competitive. 347 00:22:01,737 --> 00:22:04,448 Tony's never done a drug in his life. 348 00:22:04,531 --> 00:22:07,576 I think he's had a sip of one drink. 349 00:22:07,659 --> 00:22:09,745 Never had a drink with him. 350 00:22:09,828 --> 00:22:12,122 I'm just there for him because I'm a friend. 351 00:22:12,748 --> 00:22:15,500 -He's been the most consistent. -In your whole…? 352 00:22:15,584 --> 00:22:19,546 Yeah, he's touched every decade, every era, every… 353 00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:21,548 All of it, you know? 354 00:22:21,631 --> 00:22:25,802 Now, we want you to sort of go up to the car like that, weave through. 355 00:22:25,886 --> 00:22:28,180 I would think that we're going to be up high. 356 00:22:28,263 --> 00:22:30,932 Emilio Estevez doesn't normally ride motorcycles, 357 00:22:31,016 --> 00:22:34,019 so he's listening very carefully to stunt coordinator Nate Long. 358 00:22:34,102 --> 00:22:36,980 This is Emilio's first major acting job, 359 00:22:37,064 --> 00:22:39,441 but he is no newcomer to the movie business. 360 00:22:39,524 --> 00:22:43,445 If you look closely, he bears a good resemblance to Martin Sheen, 361 00:22:43,528 --> 00:22:45,489 one of Hollywood's most sought-after actors 362 00:22:45,572 --> 00:22:47,157 and star of Apocalypse Now. 363 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,620 He uses his real name and keeps it a good secret about his famous father. 364 00:22:51,703 --> 00:22:55,999 Emilio and Dad had a huge fight about Emilio using Sheen or Estevez, 365 00:22:56,083 --> 00:23:00,337 and Dad wishing he'd stayed with Estevez to honor his heritage, that good stuff. 366 00:23:00,420 --> 00:23:04,800 And then Emilio said, "Okay, there is a better ring to Emilio and Estevez." 367 00:23:04,883 --> 00:23:07,094 Emilio Sheen didn't have a flow, you know? 368 00:23:08,178 --> 00:23:11,098 It was a house on fire for him, man. It was… 369 00:23:11,181 --> 00:23:15,435 He had opportunities that none of us had even imagined before that. 370 00:23:17,854 --> 00:23:18,980 I beat you! 371 00:23:20,649 --> 00:23:24,403 Emilio pulled the focus quite a lot, and he deserved it. 372 00:23:24,486 --> 00:23:26,405 I don't know if that inspired Charlie. 373 00:23:27,322 --> 00:23:29,366 But I think he did see that, 374 00:23:29,449 --> 00:23:31,993 "Maybe that's something that's available to me too." 375 00:23:32,077 --> 00:23:38,041 He'd done legitimate work, he has this dough, and now he has freedom. 376 00:23:38,125 --> 00:23:42,170 The prom king of Santa Monica High School. Please welcome Emilio Estevez. 377 00:23:42,754 --> 00:23:47,759 I get it. I see all the girls. All the fun. I see all the excitement. 378 00:23:47,843 --> 00:23:50,470 And that was intoxicating. 379 00:23:51,555 --> 00:23:53,807 You know, I couldn't have been more jealous. 380 00:23:54,641 --> 00:23:57,436 High school for me, yeah, that was a mess. 381 00:23:57,519 --> 00:23:58,937 But I may hold the record. 382 00:23:59,020 --> 00:24:00,981 I have an attendance record 383 00:24:01,064 --> 00:24:06,361 of somewhere in the 30 percentile range and a GPA… 384 00:24:06,445 --> 00:24:08,530 I think it's like a 1.2. 385 00:24:09,030 --> 00:24:09,865 Oh, yeah. 386 00:24:09,948 --> 00:24:12,659 Charlie didn't graduate from high school. 387 00:24:14,828 --> 00:24:19,416 And then his dad was on his case about, "You've got to get out and get a job." 388 00:24:19,499 --> 00:24:20,625 All right, fine. 389 00:24:21,376 --> 00:24:24,629 So I told my parents, I said, "Look, let me explore the acting thing." 390 00:24:24,713 --> 00:24:27,215 "Let me audition this first summer. Let me do this." 391 00:24:27,299 --> 00:24:29,301 "Look what Emilio and his friends are doing." 392 00:24:29,384 --> 00:24:31,219 You dick! 393 00:24:31,303 --> 00:24:36,475 "And if it shits out, then I will figure out a way to, you know, 394 00:24:36,558 --> 00:24:41,980 get a GED or something, and I'll go on to a university and I'll study film." 395 00:24:42,063 --> 00:24:44,774 "I'll become an editor or a cinematographer 396 00:24:44,858 --> 00:24:46,818 or a freaking… Something." 397 00:24:47,777 --> 00:24:49,237 They were like, "Okay, deal." 398 00:24:49,821 --> 00:24:53,158 So I was Charlie Estevez all the way through high school. 399 00:24:53,241 --> 00:24:57,287 But personal disappointments, you know, school, girls… 400 00:24:57,370 --> 00:25:01,166 Yeah, it just-- It felt like it was time to clean that slate 401 00:25:01,666 --> 00:25:06,046 and start moving forward with a different… identity. 402 00:25:06,129 --> 00:25:08,924 And so I went to Pop and I said, 403 00:25:09,007 --> 00:25:13,929 "I think that someone needs to carry the name on," you know. 404 00:25:14,429 --> 00:25:15,347 And then I said, 405 00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:19,601 "I think Charlie Sheen just, you know, rolls off the tongue a little easier." 406 00:25:19,684 --> 00:25:21,937 "I can see it in lights, Pop." 407 00:25:27,943 --> 00:25:32,155 It's like, "This is a role for him, maybe, you know?" 408 00:25:32,239 --> 00:25:36,409 It's-- It's the role of Charlie Sheen. And, uh, it's a good one. 409 00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:41,248 My first summer of auditioning, 410 00:25:42,791 --> 00:25:46,336 I like to say that I got the first job that I went on. 411 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,756 Oh, my God. I've got a blister on my big toe. 412 00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:52,551 Backpack… Come on, Tina. Do me a small favor. 413 00:25:52,634 --> 00:25:53,760 -What? -Put a lid on it. 414 00:25:53,843 --> 00:25:56,346 Could you tell us what that movie is and what… 415 00:25:56,429 --> 00:25:57,264 It's shit. 416 00:25:59,641 --> 00:26:02,352 It's called Grizzly II: The Predator. 417 00:26:05,730 --> 00:26:07,607 It's a sequel to Grizzly. 418 00:26:10,986 --> 00:26:12,404 Jesus Christ! 419 00:26:12,487 --> 00:26:15,699 Somebody help me! Somebody help me! 420 00:26:21,663 --> 00:26:24,374 And there's Laura Dern and George Clooney. 421 00:26:24,457 --> 00:26:25,959 Pretty good company, right? 422 00:26:26,042 --> 00:26:28,169 We're in the first scene as these three campers. 423 00:26:28,253 --> 00:26:30,088 They're dating, and I'm third wheel guy. 424 00:26:30,171 --> 00:26:31,339 Lance… 425 00:26:31,423 --> 00:26:34,175 We shot the film in Budapest. 426 00:26:35,093 --> 00:26:39,514 Right before I left, I had this audition. That was the biggest project in town. 427 00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:40,890 And I fucked it up. 428 00:26:40,974 --> 00:26:42,183 It was a mess. 429 00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:44,894 And the director, he saw it differently. 430 00:26:45,478 --> 00:26:49,899 Because he wanted to know how fast you can get into karate training. 431 00:26:50,483 --> 00:26:51,985 I'm like, "Okay, for what?" 432 00:26:52,068 --> 00:26:54,779 "One of the hoodlums on that team of bad guys?" 433 00:26:54,863 --> 00:26:57,532 And they're like, "No. Danny. For the guy." 434 00:26:58,575 --> 00:27:01,828 I was offered the lead role in The Karate Kid. 435 00:27:03,330 --> 00:27:05,832 Yeah, so that was a big deal. 436 00:27:07,917 --> 00:27:12,088 This was like a huge moment. This would've been a star-turning moment. 437 00:27:12,714 --> 00:27:14,924 I said, "I've got to go to Budapest." 438 00:27:15,008 --> 00:27:17,677 I took it to my dad and said, "Hey, man, I got this thing." 439 00:27:17,761 --> 00:27:21,097 "It's a life-changing opportunity and so, um… 440 00:27:21,181 --> 00:27:24,726 they want me in karate training, like, tomorrow." 441 00:27:24,809 --> 00:27:27,395 He said, "Well, there's a problem here." 442 00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:30,482 "You gave this other company your word." 443 00:27:31,232 --> 00:27:34,486 I said, "But it's forgettable. It's a thing, like eight lines." 444 00:27:34,569 --> 00:27:37,447 He said, "None of that matters. You gave them your word." 445 00:27:37,530 --> 00:27:42,911 "Your word in this business is going to carry you further than one big movie." 446 00:27:44,245 --> 00:27:48,875 So we politely told The Karate Kid people, if they could wait two weeks, I'm all in. 447 00:27:48,958 --> 00:27:50,126 They said they couldn't. 448 00:27:51,002 --> 00:27:52,379 They said they couldn't. 449 00:27:53,254 --> 00:27:54,798 So that-- that went away. 450 00:27:55,298 --> 00:27:56,800 Ralph Macchio. 451 00:27:56,883 --> 00:27:58,093 -Got it. -Correct? 452 00:27:58,176 --> 00:27:59,010 Perfect. 453 00:27:59,094 --> 00:28:00,804 And I had to sit with that. 454 00:28:00,887 --> 00:28:03,431 But it was The Karate Kid in 1984 455 00:28:03,515 --> 00:28:05,850 that turned Ralph Macchio into a star. 456 00:28:06,476 --> 00:28:08,395 It also turned him into a teen idol, 457 00:28:08,478 --> 00:28:10,980 gracing every cover of the top teen magazines. 458 00:28:11,564 --> 00:28:14,984 You know, it-- it goes like that sometimes. 459 00:28:15,068 --> 00:28:16,528 It was-- It sucked. 460 00:28:17,028 --> 00:28:22,409 And in that moment, tell me about your mindset towards your dad. 461 00:28:22,909 --> 00:28:24,703 I was pissed. I was pissed. 462 00:28:24,786 --> 00:28:27,747 I thought I was terribly misled. 463 00:28:28,790 --> 00:28:30,542 So what if you're wrong? 464 00:28:30,625 --> 00:28:32,752 What if one day the sun didn't rise in the east, 465 00:28:32,836 --> 00:28:36,339 the birds didn't fly south for the winter, and for once, your compass was off? 466 00:28:36,423 --> 00:28:37,924 How about now? 467 00:28:38,007 --> 00:28:39,884 -Not one bit. -Do you feel…? 468 00:28:39,968 --> 00:28:40,969 Not one bit. Yeah. 469 00:28:41,553 --> 00:28:46,099 Yeah, it went on to burn down the world and spawn, what, five sequels or whatever. 470 00:28:46,182 --> 00:28:48,643 And he probably made $20 million. 471 00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:53,022 However, I don't know that it necessarily, um, 472 00:28:53,106 --> 00:28:59,028 opened up a lot of doors to maybe other stuff that he was passionate about. 473 00:28:59,112 --> 00:29:02,741 I don't want to say I dodged a bullet. Maybe I dodged a back kick. 474 00:29:05,326 --> 00:29:07,746 An interesting thing that happened around that time, 475 00:29:08,663 --> 00:29:09,914 he becomes a dad. 476 00:29:11,416 --> 00:29:15,336 There's probably people who don't know you have daughters or sons… 477 00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:18,256 Yeah, no, I have, uh… I have five… 478 00:29:18,339 --> 00:29:19,382 I'm sorry. 479 00:29:19,466 --> 00:29:23,386 I have five children and, uh, three granddaughters. 480 00:29:24,345 --> 00:29:26,055 Cassandra, my first child, 481 00:29:26,139 --> 00:29:30,977 will be 40 this year, which is… 482 00:29:31,060 --> 00:29:31,895 You know. 483 00:29:32,479 --> 00:29:35,940 At the time, I didn't feel like I was ready for that. 484 00:29:36,816 --> 00:29:40,361 And that contribution was a whole other energy for our family, 485 00:29:40,445 --> 00:29:42,155 that now he had a daughter. 486 00:29:42,781 --> 00:29:45,325 And my niece's mom was also very young. 487 00:29:45,408 --> 00:29:50,163 And my parents helped raise her, um, a lot. 488 00:29:50,872 --> 00:29:56,044 The stakes had risen to a place that I was ill-equipped to navigate. 489 00:29:56,544 --> 00:30:01,257 But being aware of… that there was a lot of love in the room, a lot of support. 490 00:30:01,758 --> 00:30:05,970 And I'm thinking, "It's time to focus my sights forward." 491 00:30:06,054 --> 00:30:08,598 If there's a Hollywood director who has a creative finger 492 00:30:08,681 --> 00:30:11,351 on the pulse of today's high school kids, it's John Hughes. 493 00:30:11,434 --> 00:30:13,436 With Sixteen Candles and The Breakfast Club, 494 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,438 he endeared himself to the teen crowd. 495 00:30:15,522 --> 00:30:19,609 I think he's very honest. He doesn't try to show us for something that we're not. 496 00:30:19,692 --> 00:30:20,819 Rolling. 497 00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:23,947 One day, I get this strange phone call 498 00:30:24,030 --> 00:30:26,783 from Jennifer Grey, who was a friend. 499 00:30:27,575 --> 00:30:29,536 I told you I was telling the truth, Daddy. 500 00:30:29,619 --> 00:30:34,457 She says, "I'm doing this big movie," which was Ferris Bueller's Day Off, right? 501 00:30:34,541 --> 00:30:36,835 "We're filming in Long Beach. You should come down, 502 00:30:36,918 --> 00:30:38,670 and I recommended you to John Hughes." 503 00:30:38,753 --> 00:30:42,340 "It's only one scene or two scenes, but they're both pretty memorable." 504 00:30:42,423 --> 00:30:44,008 "They're both with me." 505 00:30:44,092 --> 00:30:46,511 I'm like, "What? Who is this guy? What's the scene?" 506 00:30:46,594 --> 00:30:49,597 She's like, "Don't worry. Just read it, prepare as best as you can, 507 00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:51,057 and get your ass down there." 508 00:30:52,475 --> 00:30:56,521 So Ramon was going through this punk rock phase, right? 509 00:30:56,604 --> 00:30:58,565 He had a leather jacket I wanted to borrow. 510 00:30:58,648 --> 00:31:00,400 He was a smoker at the time. 511 00:31:00,483 --> 00:31:05,530 So I dug into his ashtray and darkened my eyes with cigarette ash. 512 00:31:08,283 --> 00:31:09,868 Jennifer greets me, 513 00:31:09,951 --> 00:31:12,203 and Matthew Broderick comes out of his trailer, 514 00:31:12,287 --> 00:31:14,706 and she introduces us just at a distance. 515 00:31:15,373 --> 00:31:20,545 So it's literally Hughes now walking across the parking lot. 516 00:31:20,628 --> 00:31:23,756 I got the sides, the jacket, the thing. I got the hair going on. 517 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,884 I'm like, "Pleasure to meet you, Mr. Hughes." 518 00:31:25,967 --> 00:31:27,927 And he's like, "Wow, look at you." 519 00:31:28,011 --> 00:31:30,889 "You look great, kid. Uh, see you next week." 520 00:31:31,973 --> 00:31:35,518 I'm like, "Yeah, see you next week." 521 00:31:35,602 --> 00:31:38,605 Jennifer's like, "Good job!" I'm like, "What the fuck did I do?" 522 00:31:38,688 --> 00:31:40,356 "All I did was get out of my car." 523 00:31:40,940 --> 00:31:44,569 So I got this gig. But this other opportunity arises. 524 00:31:48,531 --> 00:31:51,618 And this kind of just dropped in our laps. 525 00:31:51,701 --> 00:31:55,872 Martin and Charlie Sheen are going to take on the great Michael Jordan, 526 00:31:55,955 --> 00:31:57,248 the great basketball player. 527 00:31:57,332 --> 00:32:00,877 Dad's publicist was tight with Dick Van Patten. 528 00:32:01,461 --> 00:32:06,049 Dick was hosting this sports-themed show called War of the Stars. 529 00:32:06,132 --> 00:32:08,635 It pitted actors against athletes. 530 00:32:08,718 --> 00:32:10,470 Do you have any tactics? 531 00:32:10,970 --> 00:32:13,473 Uh, just primarily to score, if at all possible. 532 00:32:15,934 --> 00:32:19,896 So the day of this event, and I've got the sides, and I say, 533 00:32:19,979 --> 00:32:24,317 "Dad, can we work on the scene in the limo on the way down to playing Jordan?" 534 00:32:25,026 --> 00:32:27,195 He says, "Yeah. Okay, what do you got?" 535 00:32:27,278 --> 00:32:30,782 "So you're pissed off 'cause he ditches and doesn't get caught. Is that it?" 536 00:32:30,865 --> 00:32:32,241 So we read it once. 537 00:32:32,825 --> 00:32:34,953 "You ought to spend more dealing with yourself." 538 00:32:35,036 --> 00:32:37,747 "A little less time worrying about what your brother does." 539 00:32:38,498 --> 00:32:41,084 He says, "Okay, all right, you got it." 540 00:32:41,167 --> 00:32:43,127 I'm like, "Yeah, but I don't know it." 541 00:32:43,211 --> 00:32:49,509 He says, "No, exactly what you just did is what you need to do when you film it." 542 00:32:49,592 --> 00:32:51,719 I said, "But I did nothing." He says, "Exactly." 543 00:32:53,179 --> 00:32:55,723 There's no acting today. It's all for real. 544 00:32:57,392 --> 00:32:58,851 A high school gymnasium, 545 00:32:58,935 --> 00:33:02,438 the bleachers are filled with kids that go to that school. 546 00:33:02,522 --> 00:33:07,568 The competition, it was broken down into three sections, and it's free throws, 547 00:33:07,652 --> 00:33:09,904 it's a game of HORSE, and it's a two-on-one. 548 00:33:09,988 --> 00:33:12,782 Dad and I can shoot free throws. We're not worried about that. 549 00:33:12,865 --> 00:33:14,575 We're good from the stripe. 550 00:33:14,659 --> 00:33:18,121 The HORSE game, we figured, that's him. We don't have a shot there. 551 00:33:18,204 --> 00:33:20,540 He's gonna do things we've never seen before, right? 552 00:33:20,623 --> 00:33:23,001 But two-on-one. 553 00:33:23,084 --> 00:33:25,628 He cannot guard two people at the same time. 554 00:33:25,712 --> 00:33:27,130 We've got to spread the floor. 555 00:33:27,213 --> 00:33:30,508 We've got to come together and show this dude what we're made of. 556 00:33:32,427 --> 00:33:33,803 I missed the first shot. 557 00:33:34,303 --> 00:33:35,346 A miss. 558 00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:38,307 But the universe that day had some give. 559 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:40,977 Woo! 560 00:33:41,060 --> 00:33:43,938 Right on. Two for three for Charlie Sheen. 561 00:33:44,022 --> 00:33:46,733 The young girls here really like Charlie. 562 00:33:46,816 --> 00:33:49,235 And he's putting on a good show for them. 563 00:33:51,195 --> 00:33:53,114 Then I proceed to hit eight in a row. 564 00:33:53,197 --> 00:33:54,407 Perfect! 565 00:33:55,575 --> 00:33:59,120 I guess the detail that I omitted is he had to shoot with his eyes closed. 566 00:34:01,289 --> 00:34:03,541 But come on, we've got to introduce handicaps. 567 00:34:03,624 --> 00:34:05,918 He needs just one more. 568 00:34:08,296 --> 00:34:09,756 And he does it! 569 00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:13,092 Martin and Charlie Sheen defeat Michael Jordan in foul shooting 570 00:34:13,176 --> 00:34:15,845 to take a one-nothing lead in their three-contest match. 571 00:34:17,138 --> 00:34:20,099 So the next section was a game of HORSE. 572 00:34:21,434 --> 00:34:25,146 Jordan steps up to half-court, and as though he's shooting a free throw, 573 00:34:25,229 --> 00:34:28,274 just… nothing but net. 574 00:34:29,901 --> 00:34:31,736 And Dad… 575 00:34:39,660 --> 00:34:40,953 …nails it. 576 00:34:44,999 --> 00:34:47,293 That was that moment when you know 577 00:34:47,376 --> 00:34:50,880 there's something bigger than us in the mix here. 578 00:34:50,963 --> 00:34:52,632 Charlie with the rebound. 579 00:34:52,715 --> 00:34:53,925 Out to Martin. 580 00:34:54,008 --> 00:34:56,094 Baseline, left to Charlie. 581 00:34:56,177 --> 00:35:00,681 It's good! And look at Charlie Sheen. Is he ever happy? 582 00:35:00,765 --> 00:35:02,850 That's it, folks. The Sheens are victorious. 583 00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:04,977 Ten to five is the final score. 584 00:35:06,771 --> 00:35:08,272 It's like trying to process, 585 00:35:08,856 --> 00:35:14,070 "I just made a basket being defended by Michael Jordan." 586 00:35:15,279 --> 00:35:20,409 The whole ride back home felt like a magic carpet. 587 00:35:20,493 --> 00:35:22,662 It was intensely surreal. 588 00:35:23,621 --> 00:35:26,249 And the story with Michael does not end there. 589 00:35:26,332 --> 00:35:28,417 He becomes a bit of a through line. 590 00:35:29,127 --> 00:35:31,170 Now I got a few days to get ready 591 00:35:31,254 --> 00:35:35,800 for my big cameo in Ferris Bueller's Day Off. 592 00:35:36,634 --> 00:35:40,555 And the night before, I'm trying to figure out who this guy is. 593 00:35:40,638 --> 00:35:43,099 He seems like he's from the other side of the tracks. 594 00:35:43,182 --> 00:35:45,393 So I'm going to stay up late. 595 00:35:45,476 --> 00:35:50,481 I just figure if I show up looking tired, that that's going to be an asset. 596 00:35:50,565 --> 00:35:54,527 "I know what's wrong. I just want to hear you say it." 597 00:35:54,610 --> 00:35:55,862 There was no booze, no dope, 598 00:35:55,945 --> 00:35:58,698 nothing involved in that night preparing for this. 599 00:35:58,781 --> 00:36:01,325 "You ought to spend more time dealing with yourself." 600 00:36:01,409 --> 00:36:03,619 "Less time worrying about what your brother does." 601 00:36:03,703 --> 00:36:08,499 This was just purely organic method approach, you know. 602 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,127 "I need to look tired, so I'm gonna be tired." 603 00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:13,713 My call time down there was like 6:00 a.m., 604 00:36:14,589 --> 00:36:16,340 and I set my alarm for 4:30. 605 00:36:16,424 --> 00:36:18,676 I was going to leave at 5:00, give myself an hour. 606 00:36:18,759 --> 00:36:22,263 And I did that stupid thing where the alarm went off 607 00:36:22,346 --> 00:36:25,141 and I was like, "I'll just grab that extra ten minutes." 608 00:36:26,142 --> 00:36:29,395 And that extra ten minutes turned into an extra hour and a half. 609 00:36:29,478 --> 00:36:33,232 The next time I saw the clock, it was 6:30, and I'm in a fucking panic. 610 00:36:36,777 --> 00:36:40,198 So, there were no cell phones. You couldn't really let anybody know. 611 00:36:40,281 --> 00:36:42,533 They're all there, like, "What happened to dude?" 612 00:36:42,617 --> 00:36:47,079 And I finally get down there. It's probably like 7:00-7:15. 613 00:36:47,580 --> 00:36:49,457 And there's Jennifer Grey, man. 614 00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:54,295 And she's pacing. She's back and forth. 615 00:36:54,378 --> 00:36:58,382 I pull up, and I kinda get out of my car and sheepishly approach her. 616 00:36:58,466 --> 00:37:01,719 She fucking lays into me, man. "What is wrong with you?" 617 00:37:01,802 --> 00:37:04,847 "I go out on a fucking limb to create this opportunity for you, 618 00:37:04,931 --> 00:37:06,307 and you do this." 619 00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:08,684 So I go through makeup, I go through wardrobe. 620 00:37:08,768 --> 00:37:10,353 And I finally get to the set. 621 00:37:10,436 --> 00:37:13,314 I'm expecting a dressing down from him as well. 622 00:37:13,397 --> 00:37:14,523 And he looks at me. 623 00:37:14,607 --> 00:37:19,028 He says, "Okay, good, you're here. Let's get started." 624 00:37:19,528 --> 00:37:23,866 Did that give you any kind of, like, "I can do this and get away with things"? 625 00:37:23,950 --> 00:37:25,451 Maybe subconsciously. 626 00:37:26,953 --> 00:37:30,665 We rehearsed it a couple times, and he just started rolling camera. 627 00:37:30,748 --> 00:37:31,791 And action. 628 00:37:32,708 --> 00:37:34,961 I got very little direction that day. 629 00:37:35,544 --> 00:37:37,838 I had this thing where I used to crack my knuckles. 630 00:37:39,507 --> 00:37:42,718 He had a couple cameras on the scene, and his guy drifted down to that. 631 00:37:42,802 --> 00:37:43,761 That's in the movie. 632 00:37:45,596 --> 00:37:47,223 I think I came close to honoring 633 00:37:47,306 --> 00:37:50,017 what Dad recommended to the approach to the scene. 634 00:37:50,101 --> 00:37:53,479 So you're pissed off because he ditches and doesn't get caught. Is that it? 635 00:37:56,691 --> 00:37:58,693 -Basically. -Basically. 636 00:37:59,944 --> 00:38:01,362 Then your problem is you. 637 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,364 Excuse me? 638 00:38:03,447 --> 00:38:04,657 Excuse you. 639 00:38:05,616 --> 00:38:07,910 You ought to spend more time dealing with yourself. 640 00:38:07,994 --> 00:38:10,162 Less time worrying about what your brother does. 641 00:38:11,789 --> 00:38:15,960 And that scene turned into a thing 642 00:38:16,043 --> 00:38:22,550 that I couldn't have possibly anticipated, expected, or predicted. 643 00:38:23,134 --> 00:38:25,094 You ever held another job before? 644 00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:28,431 Yeah, some trash in the city. 645 00:38:30,433 --> 00:38:31,934 And you lost that one? 646 00:38:32,768 --> 00:38:34,437 I wouldn't be here if I hadn't. 647 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,481 I think if you look at Charlie's movies, 648 00:38:37,565 --> 00:38:44,322 there's been kind of a connecting thread to thematics and environments 649 00:38:44,405 --> 00:38:48,326 that were the movies they grew up watching their father shoot. 650 00:38:53,247 --> 00:38:56,083 Ferris Bueller is running now. It is so funny. 651 00:38:56,167 --> 00:39:00,212 I wait for that scene when you come on, it is the best thing in the film. 652 00:39:00,296 --> 00:39:01,339 -Thank you. -So funny. 653 00:39:01,422 --> 00:39:03,507 I don't know about that, but I appreciate that. 654 00:39:03,591 --> 00:39:05,134 Everybody loved the movie overall. 655 00:39:05,217 --> 00:39:07,553 One lady in particular, I can't remember her name… 656 00:39:07,636 --> 00:39:12,516 But at the very end of the review, she says something like, 657 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,979 "Special attention needs to be made for Charlie Sheen in his one scene." 658 00:39:17,063 --> 00:39:22,777 And then her one line was, "He smolders, no joke." 659 00:39:24,779 --> 00:39:26,113 And I thought, "Huh." 660 00:39:26,781 --> 00:39:32,620 Yeah, I'm on-screen for, I don't know, three minutes, four. 661 00:39:32,703 --> 00:39:36,207 And the whole world suddenly goes, "He's the fucking guy." 662 00:39:36,290 --> 00:39:39,085 And imagine what that did to my head. 663 00:39:39,752 --> 00:39:44,298 I remember I had no awareness that Charlie was developing such a career. 664 00:39:44,382 --> 00:39:49,011 And then I was at one of these family holidays at my parents' house, 665 00:39:49,095 --> 00:39:53,349 and there was Charlie, a foot taller, chiseled jaw. 666 00:39:53,432 --> 00:39:57,019 He looked like a baby version of George Washington when he was a kid. 667 00:39:57,103 --> 00:39:59,814 You know, a little blimpy, you know, face. 668 00:39:59,897 --> 00:40:05,069 And here he was, this handsome, tall young man who was starring in movies. 669 00:40:05,152 --> 00:40:07,154 I thought, "Wow, isn't it great?" 670 00:40:07,238 --> 00:40:09,782 You know, to see someone you knew in your childhood 671 00:40:09,865 --> 00:40:14,662 finding a big zone of expression and having so much to offer it. 672 00:40:14,745 --> 00:40:16,664 -You're about 21? -I am 21, yeah. 673 00:40:16,747 --> 00:40:20,918 People your age, do they know much about Vietnam in your own experience? 674 00:40:21,001 --> 00:40:24,213 Yeah, uh… to a certain extent, 675 00:40:24,296 --> 00:40:28,175 what they… teach you in history in high school. 676 00:40:28,884 --> 00:40:33,055 I had auditioned for Platoon, and it was a train wreck. 677 00:40:33,139 --> 00:40:37,393 And then Platoon was greenlit shortly after that. 678 00:40:37,476 --> 00:40:41,397 And Emilio was going to be playing the lead role. 679 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,940 Then they lost their financing. 680 00:40:43,023 --> 00:40:45,025 And the director, Oliver Stone, 681 00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:48,404 decided just to put the brakes on for a minute. 682 00:40:48,487 --> 00:40:49,864 Then it came back around, 683 00:40:49,947 --> 00:40:55,995 and that's when Oliver asked me to come back and do a second audition. 684 00:40:56,078 --> 00:40:58,581 Did you have a moment with your brother about this? 685 00:40:58,664 --> 00:41:01,792 It's just the way things had to go. 686 00:41:03,502 --> 00:41:05,212 What's that smirk on your face? 687 00:41:05,296 --> 00:41:07,923 -There's something here, like… -It's the way things had to go. 688 00:41:08,007 --> 00:41:09,800 Do you have a sibling rivalry? 689 00:41:09,884 --> 00:41:12,178 As far as film competition, I think that's all-- 690 00:41:12,261 --> 00:41:14,680 It's a waste of time. We're not up for the same parts. 691 00:41:14,763 --> 00:41:16,140 We don't play the same types. 692 00:41:19,643 --> 00:41:22,521 You were on the set when your dad was shooting Apocalypse Now. 693 00:41:22,605 --> 00:41:24,398 -Right. -Was this similar? 694 00:41:24,482 --> 00:41:29,487 I was witnessing this Coppola-esque $40 million production as an 11-year-old. 695 00:41:29,570 --> 00:41:32,406 And now going back, uh, ten years later to do Platoon, 696 00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:35,743 like, my version, um, it was kind of scary, 697 00:41:35,826 --> 00:41:39,163 but it was like a strange, symbolic homecoming for me. 698 00:41:39,246 --> 00:41:41,165 Dance! Dance! 699 00:41:43,292 --> 00:41:46,170 Dance! One-legged motherfucker! 700 00:41:47,254 --> 00:41:50,132 During that shoot, I was presented with a contract 701 00:41:50,216 --> 00:41:53,385 written on a napkin in the Philippine jungle from Oliver Stone 702 00:41:53,469 --> 00:41:55,095 to commit to Wall Street. 703 00:41:55,679 --> 00:41:58,599 I said, "I know where Wall Street is. What's the movie about?" 704 00:41:58,682 --> 00:42:03,854 He said, "It's the story of a young trader seduced by the promise of quick gains." 705 00:42:04,355 --> 00:42:06,232 I'm like, "Alright, that sounds pretty cool." 706 00:42:06,315 --> 00:42:09,860 Look, Dixon, relax. It's not illegal to buy stock or to be accurate. 707 00:42:09,944 --> 00:42:12,404 It's not that unusual to be spot-checked on a big buy. 708 00:42:12,488 --> 00:42:15,741 Say you did your homework and thought the stock was a sound investment. 709 00:42:16,325 --> 00:42:18,744 The nominees for Best Picture are… 710 00:42:19,787 --> 00:42:20,996 Platoon… 711 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:27,336 I was in New York filming Wall Street, watching Platoon up for Best Picture, 712 00:42:27,419 --> 00:42:29,088 you know, on a Sunday night. 713 00:42:29,171 --> 00:42:30,422 And the winner is… 714 00:42:30,506 --> 00:42:34,176 There's before Platoon and there's after Platoon. 715 00:42:34,260 --> 00:42:35,261 Platoon. 716 00:42:41,308 --> 00:42:44,895 I mean, Best Picture at 20, you know what I mean? It's like, uh… 717 00:42:44,979 --> 00:42:46,897 Yeah, it kind of sets the stage. 718 00:42:50,401 --> 00:42:53,529 You know who he is. Charlie Sheen! 719 00:42:54,738 --> 00:42:57,992 Just indescribable opportunities. 720 00:42:58,576 --> 00:43:01,787 -The place goes crazy for you, don't they? -It's a little embarrassing. 721 00:43:03,205 --> 00:43:05,916 He just became a mega superstar. 722 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,001 Wild thing! 723 00:43:07,084 --> 00:43:11,046 It's Charlie Sheen, man. The hugest star in the world. 724 00:43:13,882 --> 00:43:15,301 Wild thing! 725 00:43:15,384 --> 00:43:18,262 I was on a level that couldn't be touched. 726 00:43:21,890 --> 00:43:25,477 One night, I decide to head out on the town with a few of my mates, 727 00:43:26,061 --> 00:43:31,400 and we catch wind of this party in West Hollywood, right? 728 00:43:31,483 --> 00:43:35,112 We get the address, we get there. I think it's the right spot. 729 00:43:35,195 --> 00:43:38,449 You know, everything was really dark and back alley-ish. 730 00:43:38,532 --> 00:43:40,451 And I see a guy. 731 00:43:40,534 --> 00:43:46,373 In the cool of the evening When everything is gettin' kinda groovy 732 00:43:46,457 --> 00:43:49,376 And he's talking to this really cute girl. 733 00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:52,880 And he keeps saying to the girl, "What do you think of my watch?" 734 00:43:52,963 --> 00:43:57,051 "How do you like my watch?" And I recognize the voice, right? 735 00:43:57,551 --> 00:43:59,386 And I'm like, "Nic?" 736 00:44:01,263 --> 00:44:02,640 I lost my hand! 737 00:44:02,723 --> 00:44:07,269 Love is kinda crazy With a spooky little boy like you 738 00:44:07,353 --> 00:44:08,187 Hey, Birdy. 739 00:44:09,688 --> 00:44:11,482 We got some dancing to do. 740 00:44:12,358 --> 00:44:14,902 Nicolas Cage! 741 00:44:16,487 --> 00:44:20,532 I admired how he's not interested in anybody's opinion. 742 00:44:20,616 --> 00:44:22,409 He's not looking for anyone's approval. 743 00:44:27,623 --> 00:44:31,126 Our friendship, that's the symbolic springboard 744 00:44:31,210 --> 00:44:35,923 into the next… …chapter of complete and total chaos. 745 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,346 We bonded in a way that was about the party, 746 00:44:42,429 --> 00:44:46,725 it was about the excitement, but was also about respect for each other. 747 00:44:46,809 --> 00:44:48,936 But mostly the partying. 748 00:44:51,355 --> 00:44:53,482 Snorting cocaine and tons of booze. 749 00:44:53,565 --> 00:44:55,150 Poppers. Ecstasy. 750 00:44:55,234 --> 00:44:56,443 That's great. 751 00:44:56,527 --> 00:44:58,904 Just the menu was filled with options. 752 00:44:58,987 --> 00:45:01,907 Our gang. And we got the tattoos. We got the jackets. 753 00:45:02,491 --> 00:45:04,326 We'd go at 100 miles an hour. 754 00:45:07,496 --> 00:45:10,833 We were warped. And that's what kind of just… 755 00:45:10,916 --> 00:45:13,961 Charlie Sheen, Hollywood's wildest bachelor. 756 00:45:14,044 --> 00:45:17,339 His scandalous women. His party nights out with the boys. 757 00:45:17,923 --> 00:45:19,675 The circus that Charlie brang. 758 00:45:19,758 --> 00:45:22,678 Charlie was a different kind of life at the party. 759 00:45:22,761 --> 00:45:25,889 So good 'cause I got you Woo! 760 00:45:25,973 --> 00:45:28,517 We were like this runaway train. 761 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,936 It's like we were all… 762 00:45:31,019 --> 00:45:33,230 Something was missing. 763 00:45:33,313 --> 00:45:37,359 And by this connection, suddenly it wasn't. 764 00:45:37,443 --> 00:45:44,283 And, uh, that's a lot of responsibility to everybody's American knight. 765 00:45:48,287 --> 00:45:51,165 We wound up on an airplane to San Francisco. 766 00:45:54,418 --> 00:45:56,044 Everybody was high as shit. 767 00:45:57,504 --> 00:45:59,214 And then it happened. 768 00:45:59,923 --> 00:46:03,260 Nic got ahold of the intercom handset. 769 00:46:03,343 --> 00:46:05,387 There was no warm-up. 770 00:46:05,471 --> 00:46:10,476 He launched into, "This is your captain speaking." 771 00:46:10,559 --> 00:46:12,686 "Uh… I'm not…" 772 00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:14,855 "I'm not feeling well." 773 00:46:16,982 --> 00:46:19,693 "I'm losing control of the aircraft." 774 00:46:24,031 --> 00:46:28,368 And we heard this, and I knew we were instantly in shit city. 775 00:46:28,452 --> 00:46:31,163 He had taken it to a place, whatever his intentions were, 776 00:46:31,246 --> 00:46:34,124 that just were wildly inappropriate. 777 00:46:34,833 --> 00:46:36,502 And you can hear people screaming, 778 00:46:36,585 --> 00:46:38,670 demanding information from the flight crew. 779 00:46:38,754 --> 00:46:40,923 -You can't… Good Lord. -No. 780 00:46:41,006 --> 00:46:45,302 And then when we landed, the pilot came out and he said, 781 00:46:45,385 --> 00:46:49,306 "Not cool, not f***ing cool." 782 00:46:49,389 --> 00:46:51,600 So we were in big trouble, man. 783 00:46:51,683 --> 00:46:55,145 At which point the door to the aircraft whooshed open 784 00:46:55,229 --> 00:47:01,068 like a nuclear gateway to a bank vault to reveal six fully armed police officers. 785 00:47:01,151 --> 00:47:02,319 Oh, buddy. 786 00:47:02,402 --> 00:47:05,197 And what Nic didn't know 787 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,326 is that I had over an ounce of cocaine taped to the inside of my leg. 788 00:47:09,409 --> 00:47:10,953 And standing there, 789 00:47:11,036 --> 00:47:14,832 sweating and really concerned about what's going to happen next. 790 00:47:17,584 --> 00:47:20,379 One of the guys was a big enough fan of mine, 791 00:47:20,462 --> 00:47:24,007 big enough fan of Nic's, and he just decided to, uh, you know, 792 00:47:24,091 --> 00:47:28,971 "Make sure this doesn't happen again, young man." Um, and we got through. 793 00:47:29,471 --> 00:47:30,305 You know? 794 00:47:30,389 --> 00:47:33,725 Yet another experience of the perks of the job. 795 00:47:33,809 --> 00:47:38,063 I guess, yeah. I think anybody else, that would have been, uh… Phew. 796 00:47:39,106 --> 00:47:42,276 Charlie always managed to walk a tightrope. 797 00:47:42,359 --> 00:47:46,530 You wanted to like him, um, because he was really charming and smart 798 00:47:46,613 --> 00:47:49,449 and terrific at what he does as an actor. 799 00:47:49,533 --> 00:47:53,954 You know, but also, uh, you know, there were incidents that you were like, 800 00:47:54,037 --> 00:47:55,038 "Wait, what happened?" 801 00:47:55,122 --> 00:47:58,959 Like, you know, when he shot Kelly Preston, you know? 802 00:48:01,128 --> 00:48:03,797 Charlie Sheen and Kelly Preston seem to be a nice couple. 803 00:48:03,881 --> 00:48:06,592 Each is a successful, attractive actor. 804 00:48:06,675 --> 00:48:09,970 Each is upset now about stories circulating 805 00:48:10,053 --> 00:48:12,723 since Kelly suffered a gunshot wound earlier this month. 806 00:48:12,806 --> 00:48:15,684 There's nothing better than talking directly to the source. 807 00:48:15,767 --> 00:48:17,853 And that's exactly what we did. 808 00:48:17,936 --> 00:48:19,605 -No. Sorry. -We're glad you're okay. 809 00:48:19,688 --> 00:48:22,482 -Thank you. -Go over it. We've heard so many accounts. 810 00:48:22,566 --> 00:48:25,861 The truth is, it was a complete accident. It fell, it went off. 811 00:48:25,944 --> 00:48:30,032 Then Kelly said at the time, "Oh no, that was an accident." 812 00:48:30,115 --> 00:48:35,495 You know? So there's this part of you that goes, "Okay…" You know? Uh… 813 00:48:35,579 --> 00:48:39,958 There's always this tightrope of, you know, I don't know the whole story. 814 00:48:40,042 --> 00:48:43,128 Is he the guy who he appears to me to be? 815 00:48:43,211 --> 00:48:47,507 Or is there some… some much darker thing going on? 816 00:48:59,519 --> 00:49:03,357 I get invited to my dad's birthday party. 817 00:49:04,066 --> 00:49:05,525 I think Mom called me. 818 00:49:05,609 --> 00:49:08,570 "Dad's got things to do, so we got to do it early." 819 00:49:10,197 --> 00:49:12,199 She's like, "We're thinking 9:00." 820 00:49:12,699 --> 00:49:15,285 I'm like, "A.M.?" She's like, "Yeah." 821 00:49:15,369 --> 00:49:17,245 I'm like, "Uh… okay." 822 00:49:17,329 --> 00:49:19,665 "What should I get him?" "He doesn't need anything." 823 00:49:19,748 --> 00:49:22,084 "You know your father. He'll give it away." 824 00:49:29,341 --> 00:49:31,760 You can hear this car coming a mile away, right? 825 00:49:31,843 --> 00:49:34,471 And so Mom hears me pull in the driveway. 826 00:49:36,848 --> 00:49:39,226 And she comes out, and she gives me a hug. 827 00:49:39,810 --> 00:49:41,895 She says, "I have to ask you something." 828 00:49:41,979 --> 00:49:43,480 I'm like, "Yeah, anything." 829 00:49:43,563 --> 00:49:45,649 She says, "Are you armed?" 830 00:49:48,026 --> 00:49:49,903 I thought she was joking, right? 831 00:49:49,987 --> 00:49:51,655 I said, "No, why would I--?" 832 00:49:51,738 --> 00:49:55,534 "No, Mom, come on. Maybe there's something in the trunk, but no." 833 00:49:55,617 --> 00:49:58,745 She says, "Okay, good. I just had to find out, you know?" 834 00:50:02,499 --> 00:50:04,292 So she brings me in the house. 835 00:50:06,003 --> 00:50:09,798 And I'm looking for balloons, looking for a cake, for funny hats. 836 00:50:09,881 --> 00:50:13,844 I'm looking for something that screams "birthday party" and there's nothing. 837 00:50:13,927 --> 00:50:16,596 And as I get kind of coming around the corner, 838 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:22,644 I see the living room has this really expertly organized circle of people. 839 00:50:22,728 --> 00:50:25,564 And I think I'm recognizing all of them. 840 00:50:26,148 --> 00:50:27,357 But it's a weird mix. 841 00:50:27,441 --> 00:50:32,404 Why would Dad have my seventh-grade history teacher, Mr. Vincent, 842 00:50:32,487 --> 00:50:37,117 at his birthday party when no one's seen the guy for, I don't know, 15 years? 843 00:50:37,701 --> 00:50:40,328 There's Bikram Choudhury, my yoga instructor. 844 00:50:40,412 --> 00:50:43,415 Rob Lowe is there. Okay, there's a familiar face. 845 00:50:43,498 --> 00:50:47,335 And then Emilio and Renée, Ramon, my parents. 846 00:50:47,419 --> 00:50:49,880 And this fucking guy. I think his name was Jim. 847 00:50:50,756 --> 00:50:53,425 And there's one chair that's open. 848 00:50:54,843 --> 00:50:59,639 And this guy named Jim says, uh, "Welcome, please be seated." 849 00:51:00,515 --> 00:51:04,061 I was never involved in any of those, uh, interventions. 850 00:51:04,144 --> 00:51:07,773 And, you know, I was not, you know, 851 00:51:07,856 --> 00:51:11,234 walking a perfect trail of my own in some regards. 852 00:51:11,318 --> 00:51:12,486 And… 853 00:51:13,361 --> 00:51:17,074 I haven't said a fucking word, because there's a lot to process. 854 00:51:17,157 --> 00:51:19,367 I'd kind of heard about these things, 855 00:51:19,451 --> 00:51:22,162 but never been this close to an intervention. 856 00:51:22,245 --> 00:51:24,039 And they go around the room. 857 00:51:24,915 --> 00:51:27,667 They've all got something written, and it's very emotional. 858 00:51:27,751 --> 00:51:33,590 I said, "Uh, is this a situation where now I'm given some time to think about this?" 859 00:51:34,716 --> 00:51:39,721 They said, "No. This is a decision we've made for you that has to happen today." 860 00:51:40,806 --> 00:51:42,557 What you have just seen 861 00:51:42,641 --> 00:51:46,728 is a good lesson in what not to do in a situation of this nature. 862 00:51:46,812 --> 00:51:50,482 Who can tell me what they did wrong? Come on, come on, you know. 863 00:51:50,565 --> 00:51:53,235 Charlie had the audacity to be pissed about that. 864 00:51:53,318 --> 00:51:56,029 I don't know if he told you. He was mad that all these people 865 00:51:56,113 --> 00:51:58,532 were trying to tell him what to do with his life. 866 00:51:58,615 --> 00:52:00,450 Why? Huh? 867 00:52:00,534 --> 00:52:02,994 Nothing more than a complete and total pain in my ass! 868 00:52:03,078 --> 00:52:04,788 Feeling is mutual, son. 869 00:52:06,164 --> 00:52:09,126 You can tell someone until they're blue in the face. 870 00:52:09,209 --> 00:52:11,711 I don't care if it's your mom, your dad, whoever. 871 00:52:11,795 --> 00:52:16,091 Until you decide to make that decision, it's not going to happen. 872 00:52:16,174 --> 00:52:20,387 And I was figuring, "All right, if I just agree to this, 873 00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:22,806 just to get out of this situation, 874 00:52:22,889 --> 00:52:26,434 I can probably hatch a plan somewhere away from here." 875 00:52:27,144 --> 00:52:30,897 Dad goes in the office, and he sticks his head back out the door, 876 00:52:30,981 --> 00:52:33,400 and says, "Someone on the phone wants to talk to you." 877 00:52:33,483 --> 00:52:35,735 I thought it'd be a family member. 878 00:52:35,819 --> 00:52:37,237 And I'm like, "Hello?" 879 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,489 And it's a very recognizable, 880 00:52:39,573 --> 00:52:42,742 very globally familiar voice. 881 00:52:43,243 --> 00:52:44,494 And it's Clint. 882 00:52:45,036 --> 00:52:47,080 I ain't going to lose this one. 883 00:52:47,164 --> 00:52:51,793 Now you can either stand out of my way, or you can be my partner and back me up. 884 00:52:52,836 --> 00:52:55,380 He said something to the effect of, you know, 885 00:52:55,463 --> 00:52:58,550 "You got to get the train back on the tracks, kid." 886 00:52:58,633 --> 00:53:03,180 You know. He said, "You're, uh, you're worth saving." 887 00:53:05,932 --> 00:53:07,642 Yeah, it was really powerful. 888 00:53:07,726 --> 00:53:10,103 And I thanked him and gave the phone back to Dad, 889 00:53:10,187 --> 00:53:12,022 and said, "All right, let's go." 890 00:53:14,024 --> 00:53:16,735 We were in a car on the way down to rehab. 891 00:53:16,818 --> 00:53:20,363 Dad driving, Mom in the front, a couple of people on either side of me. 892 00:53:21,573 --> 00:53:23,617 I was in a people sandwich 893 00:53:23,700 --> 00:53:28,079 because they knew at the first red light I was probably gonna be that guy. 894 00:53:29,247 --> 00:53:33,043 The intervention was inconvenient because later on that night or the next morning, 895 00:53:34,794 --> 00:53:39,799 Nic Cage and the rest of our gang were scheduled to be honorary judges 896 00:53:39,883 --> 00:53:44,012 at a Hawaiian Tropic bikini contest in Palm Springs. 897 00:53:44,763 --> 00:53:47,182 So I'm in a pickle. I got the whole crew on standby 898 00:53:47,265 --> 00:53:51,061 to make this move down there, and I'm stuck in this intervention. 899 00:53:51,895 --> 00:53:53,772 I'm thinking, "What does it matter 900 00:53:53,855 --> 00:53:57,817 if I get sober, like, that day or a day from then?" 901 00:54:01,738 --> 00:54:03,365 There's a night nurse. 902 00:54:03,865 --> 00:54:07,869 It was this Black gal in her 40s. She was all business, you know. 903 00:54:07,953 --> 00:54:12,040 I told her, I said, "I'm not bound by law to be here." 904 00:54:12,123 --> 00:54:14,626 "I got this thing with my buddies down in the desert, 905 00:54:14,709 --> 00:54:17,504 and I will come walking back into this facility 906 00:54:17,587 --> 00:54:20,257 tomorrow morning at 8:00 a.m., 907 00:54:20,966 --> 00:54:24,219 or I will give you a million dollars." 908 00:54:25,553 --> 00:54:26,972 And she took it in. 909 00:54:27,055 --> 00:54:28,348 She took it in. 910 00:54:28,848 --> 00:54:31,017 And she just said, "Deal." 911 00:54:31,726 --> 00:54:37,023 Thinking, she's probably looking at the better end of the stick, right? 912 00:54:37,107 --> 00:54:39,109 I put a spell on you 913 00:54:40,026 --> 00:54:42,070 And so there's a pay phone, 914 00:54:42,153 --> 00:54:44,781 and I'm able to kind of get word to the guys. 915 00:54:44,864 --> 00:54:47,826 I said, "I spoke to this gal. We got this covered." 916 00:54:47,909 --> 00:54:49,077 He's like, "Cool, man." 917 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:53,081 And so… I mean, thanks, Nic. You could have said, "You know, Charles?" 918 00:54:53,164 --> 00:54:55,834 "We're probably going to pull the plug on that." 919 00:54:55,917 --> 00:54:58,712 And he didn't. And I don't blame him. 920 00:54:58,795 --> 00:55:03,800 Because you're mine 921 00:55:03,883 --> 00:55:06,303 Palm Springs, California! 922 00:55:11,308 --> 00:55:16,938 It's fantabulous and sexy and as exciting as it could have been. 923 00:55:18,273 --> 00:55:20,108 Number 13! 924 00:55:26,614 --> 00:55:31,161 And I get back to St. John's 925 00:55:31,828 --> 00:55:34,539 at about 7:40. 926 00:55:35,081 --> 00:55:37,625 And she sees me walking up, 927 00:55:37,709 --> 00:55:39,711 and it is such… 928 00:55:39,794 --> 00:55:43,506 I mean, she's kind of happy that, you know, 929 00:55:43,590 --> 00:55:47,260 that this guy, he's committed to this, and he showed back up. 930 00:55:48,511 --> 00:55:54,017 So she was happy for me, but disappointed for herself. 931 00:55:54,100 --> 00:55:57,145 She kind of was like, "All right, well, whatever." 932 00:55:57,228 --> 00:56:01,232 "You're a man of your word. Welcome back. We kept your room for you." 933 00:56:03,443 --> 00:56:09,366 My agent, he visited me in rehab with the Hot Shots! script. 934 00:56:09,866 --> 00:56:12,327 This fell out of the fucking sky right in my lap. 935 00:56:12,410 --> 00:56:16,122 I don't need your help or anybody's help. I'll be just fine. 936 00:56:16,623 --> 00:56:18,792 And it was a bit of a game changer. 937 00:56:21,127 --> 00:56:22,212 Are you okay? 938 00:56:23,004 --> 00:56:25,423 I think it might have been the first time 939 00:56:25,507 --> 00:56:29,511 I noticed that there was a pattern to go through all this shit, 940 00:56:30,136 --> 00:56:31,471 come out of the fire, 941 00:56:31,554 --> 00:56:36,935 and there be an opportunity on the immediate other side of it. 942 00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:41,398 It really flattened the concept 943 00:56:41,481 --> 00:56:45,276 of genuine consequences. 944 00:56:50,407 --> 00:56:54,035 I was able to just… turn it off. 945 00:56:54,119 --> 00:56:56,746 And to this day, I don't know how, but I did. 946 00:56:56,830 --> 00:57:01,835 I was at Nic's castle, for lack of a different description, 947 00:57:01,918 --> 00:57:03,545 up in the Hollywood Hills. 948 00:57:03,628 --> 00:57:07,424 The neighborhood was kind of sketchy, but the place was fabulous. 949 00:57:07,507 --> 00:57:10,802 I asked Nic one night, "Why did you choose this place?" 950 00:57:10,885 --> 00:57:13,012 He was like, "Charles, look at the view." 951 00:57:13,096 --> 00:57:17,267 "Look at the view and just think how much closer I am to the crime." 952 00:57:17,350 --> 00:57:21,187 I was like, "All right. That makes me want to leave, um…" 953 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,899 So I had spent the night, and I woke up. 954 00:57:24,983 --> 00:57:27,360 He wasn't up yet. I went down to his kitchen. 955 00:57:27,444 --> 00:57:31,156 And I opened his refrigerator. There was a Foster's lager sitting there. 956 00:57:31,239 --> 00:57:34,159 Lit perfectly, slow push in on it, you know. 957 00:57:35,201 --> 00:57:36,870 Reverse, push in on me. 958 00:57:38,538 --> 00:57:42,876 I'm like, "Shit, it's Dad's birthday. It's my birthday too, let's celebrate." 959 00:57:44,169 --> 00:57:46,171 Cracked that fucker and downed it. 960 00:57:47,297 --> 00:57:48,506 Yeah, celebrated one year. 961 00:57:48,590 --> 00:57:51,009 Come on, man. That was an accomplishment. 962 00:57:52,510 --> 00:57:56,306 That beer was there for a reason, right? That opened the door a little bit. 963 00:57:57,474 --> 00:58:01,102 I would pull waitresses aside, give them a decent tip and say, 964 00:58:01,186 --> 00:58:04,606 "I need a little wine in a coffee mug," you know. 965 00:58:04,689 --> 00:58:10,069 At the same time, I was trying to project an image of responsibility. 966 00:58:10,153 --> 00:58:11,696 Is your act pretty cleaned up now? 967 00:58:11,779 --> 00:58:13,072 -More or less, yeah. -Is it? 968 00:58:13,156 --> 00:58:17,535 Yeah, no, I've, uh, spent a little more time at home 969 00:58:17,619 --> 00:58:21,498 eating a Wolfgang Puck Spicy Chicken than I do in a bar. 970 00:58:21,581 --> 00:58:24,792 "I just need to take the edge off a bit. It's not going to lead back 971 00:58:24,876 --> 00:58:27,837 to all the freaking shit that got me in this mess." 972 00:58:28,796 --> 00:58:32,926 Yeah, it's funny how secret wine in a coffee mug just 973 00:58:33,593 --> 00:58:37,639 turns into everything it wasn't supposed to be. 974 00:58:40,725 --> 00:58:44,229 There was a club that was really popular called On The Rox, 975 00:58:44,312 --> 00:58:45,980 and it was above the Roxy. 976 00:58:46,064 --> 00:58:51,069 The place was a little sketchy, but it was the spot. 977 00:58:52,445 --> 00:58:58,243 There was one night, there was a group of girls there I hadn't seen there before. 978 00:58:58,952 --> 00:59:02,622 And lined up properly, they were each hotter than the other, 979 00:59:02,705 --> 00:59:05,917 dressed nicely, and wearing all the right accessories. 980 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,419 They would always wind up back at this one table. 981 00:59:08,503 --> 00:59:13,466 And at the head of the table was a gal that seemed like she was kind of, 982 00:59:13,550 --> 00:59:17,011 for lack of a better description, like their chaperone. 983 00:59:17,512 --> 00:59:18,930 She was a little bit older. 984 00:59:19,013 --> 00:59:23,351 She wasn't trying to prove anything or impress anyone, you know. 985 00:59:23,851 --> 00:59:26,896 And so I finally got to talking to one of these girls. 986 00:59:29,941 --> 00:59:32,527 I said, "Do you have any plans after this?" 987 00:59:32,610 --> 00:59:35,280 She says, "Yeah, that's where it gets a little tricky." 988 00:59:35,363 --> 00:59:39,784 "I got to go talk to my friend and see what that looks like for us, you know?" 989 00:59:39,867 --> 00:59:44,414 I'm thinking, "That's kind of strange. You come here with your mom, whatever." 990 00:59:46,624 --> 00:59:48,001 Then it clicks. 991 00:59:48,585 --> 00:59:50,628 Okay, these are call girls. 992 00:59:51,629 --> 00:59:54,090 That lady over there is their madam. 993 00:59:55,341 --> 00:59:57,594 Actually, that stuff never bothered me. 994 00:59:57,677 --> 00:59:58,595 What you looking at? 995 00:59:58,678 --> 01:00:02,348 In fact, I lost my virginity to a pro when I was 15 years old. 996 01:00:03,057 --> 01:00:05,643 I borrowed Dad's credit card to pay for it. 997 01:00:05,727 --> 01:00:07,395 It's 1980. I'm in Vegas. 998 01:00:10,481 --> 01:00:14,360 I'm pretty sure her name was Candy. 999 01:00:17,447 --> 01:00:19,073 So, I have to say, Candy, 1000 01:00:19,157 --> 01:00:21,826 if you're out there somewhere, um, 1001 01:00:21,909 --> 01:00:23,036 thank you. 1002 01:00:24,412 --> 01:00:26,164 How do you unpack that moment 1003 01:00:26,247 --> 01:00:27,707 and kind of where it goes from there? 1004 01:00:28,291 --> 01:00:33,463 Candy, you know, probably cost me upwards of 100 million, conservatively. 1005 01:00:33,546 --> 01:00:36,007 Can I ask you something, just one guy to another? 1006 01:00:36,090 --> 01:00:39,719 You know, I've never hired a woman. 1007 01:00:39,802 --> 01:00:42,096 I'd just think it's like a blind date, really. 1008 01:00:42,180 --> 01:00:45,058 Except that you know that it's going to be successful. 1009 01:00:45,141 --> 01:00:48,144 Yeah. I think Cary Grant said it best way back in the day. 1010 01:00:48,227 --> 01:00:50,855 He said that he's not paying for the sex. 1011 01:00:50,938 --> 01:00:55,109 He's paying for them to leave when he's done, you know. Um… 1012 01:00:55,193 --> 01:00:57,779 -In the immortal words of Cary Grant. -Yes. Yeah. 1013 01:01:01,282 --> 01:01:02,950 And the sky was made of amethyst… 1014 01:01:03,034 --> 01:01:06,454 Which brings us back to that fateful night at On The Rox. 1015 01:01:06,537 --> 01:01:09,457 And all the stars Were just like little fish… 1016 01:01:09,540 --> 01:01:12,710 The same night I was introduced to the infamous madam. 1017 01:01:12,794 --> 01:01:14,962 You should learn when to go 1018 01:01:15,046 --> 01:01:17,131 I said, "I'm Charlie Sheen. Nice to meet you." 1019 01:01:21,928 --> 01:01:23,846 She says, "Hi, my name is Heidi." 1020 01:01:23,930 --> 01:01:26,641 You should learn how to say no 1021 01:01:26,724 --> 01:01:29,018 Go on, take everything 1022 01:01:29,102 --> 01:01:32,397 Take everything, I want you to 1023 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,858 Go on, take everything Take everything… 1024 01:01:35,942 --> 01:01:37,193 Hey! 1025 01:01:38,403 --> 01:01:39,237 Come here. 1026 01:01:41,114 --> 01:01:43,574 Hey, come here, babies. Come here. 1027 01:01:43,658 --> 01:01:46,411 Hey, what's your problem? Come here. 1028 01:01:47,036 --> 01:01:48,121 Come here. 1029 01:01:50,581 --> 01:01:53,000 I'm born and raised in LA. 1030 01:01:53,084 --> 01:01:57,839 Everything was a perfect storm to make me the perfect madam. 1031 01:01:58,423 --> 01:02:01,676 I was young, arrogant. I was the best. That's how it is. 1032 01:02:01,759 --> 01:02:04,387 I'm not gonna start naming all the actors I've dealt with, 1033 01:02:04,470 --> 01:02:06,973 but everyone you think is doing it is doing it. 1034 01:02:07,056 --> 01:02:09,392 Big deal. What guy doesn't want to get laid? 1035 01:02:09,475 --> 01:02:12,311 And they're paying for adults doing adult things. 1036 01:02:12,395 --> 01:02:15,606 It's not Jeffrey Epstein-like pedophile thing. 1037 01:02:15,690 --> 01:02:19,402 I wasn't Ghislaine Maxwell driving around junior high schools. 1038 01:02:19,485 --> 01:02:20,611 There's none of that. 1039 01:02:20,695 --> 01:02:23,489 And the women came to me in droves. 1040 01:02:23,573 --> 01:02:27,535 When they were like $10 cum buckets, I've got them $100,000 a night. 1041 01:02:27,618 --> 01:02:29,537 I have no talent, no skill. 1042 01:02:29,620 --> 01:02:31,622 Everything with me has to be created 1043 01:02:31,706 --> 01:02:35,752 by imagination or luck or persistence and determination. 1044 01:02:35,835 --> 01:02:38,087 She was really cool. She was really smart. 1045 01:02:38,171 --> 01:02:40,465 She was pretty business savvy. I don't know. 1046 01:02:40,548 --> 01:02:43,676 She had a decent sense of humor. She was never sloppy. 1047 01:02:44,802 --> 01:02:45,636 You know? 1048 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,181 Charlie is a crybaby pussy bitch. 1049 01:02:48,264 --> 01:02:51,601 I've been on the cover of Time with the Manson girls. 1050 01:02:51,684 --> 01:02:53,686 I'm in the criminal category. 1051 01:02:53,770 --> 01:02:56,397 People remember the criminals. That's what they know. 1052 01:02:57,064 --> 01:02:59,442 Look, at 27 years old, I was arrested. 1053 01:02:59,525 --> 01:03:01,360 I knew I'd get arrested one day 1054 01:03:01,444 --> 01:03:04,572 for running an illegal consensual sex empire. 1055 01:03:05,364 --> 01:03:08,993 But I didn't think it would ever happen the way it happened. 1056 01:03:10,119 --> 01:03:12,538 With Heidi, I always just used cash. 1057 01:03:12,622 --> 01:03:15,458 And everything was fine. For a while. 1058 01:03:15,541 --> 01:03:17,293 Nobody got hurt. Nobody got arrested. 1059 01:03:18,085 --> 01:03:19,170 For a while. 1060 01:03:20,588 --> 01:03:23,007 Then I was too hammered to go to the bank. 1061 01:03:23,090 --> 01:03:24,675 I'm pretty sure I was using… 1062 01:03:24,759 --> 01:03:28,554 American Express traveler's checks. Don't leave home without them. 1063 01:03:28,638 --> 01:03:30,807 I said to her, "We probably shouldn't do this." 1064 01:03:30,890 --> 01:03:35,269 "Is it cool if I just write a check?" She's like, "Yeah, yeah, no problem." 1065 01:03:35,353 --> 01:03:36,771 "No problem whatsoever." 1066 01:03:39,524 --> 01:03:42,068 Big problem, oh, so ever. 1067 01:03:42,151 --> 01:03:44,821 In Vanity Fair magazine, Fleiss breaks her silence 1068 01:03:44,904 --> 01:03:48,199 about customers for her high-priced call-girl operation. 1069 01:03:48,282 --> 01:03:52,245 She claims actor Charlie Sheen wanted prostitutes dressed as cheerleaders. 1070 01:03:52,328 --> 01:03:54,997 -Let me explain the Charlie connection. -Yeah, please. 1071 01:03:55,498 --> 01:03:58,709 His name would have never, ever come out. Ever. 1072 01:03:58,793 --> 01:04:01,462 For the simple fact, a long time ago, 1073 01:04:01,546 --> 01:04:04,590 there were things called traveler's checks. 1074 01:04:04,674 --> 01:04:08,886 And I guess Charlie was away making Hot Shots! Part Three, or something. 1075 01:04:08,970 --> 01:04:10,179 I don't know. 1076 01:04:10,263 --> 01:04:13,266 And he probably had traveler's checks on location, 1077 01:04:13,349 --> 01:04:15,059 that was considered like money. 1078 01:04:15,142 --> 01:04:18,271 So when he returned, he called me, I don't know, for some girls 1079 01:04:18,354 --> 01:04:20,356 and paid with traveler's checks. 1080 01:04:20,439 --> 01:04:22,525 They were in my Gucci planner, 1081 01:04:22,608 --> 01:04:26,821 along with traveler's checks from Saudi royal families, stuff like that. 1082 01:04:26,904 --> 01:04:30,116 Those kinds of people, the cops don't know who they are, 1083 01:04:30,199 --> 01:04:31,617 but they know Charlie Sheen. 1084 01:04:31,701 --> 01:04:34,203 So that's the only reason his name came out. 1085 01:04:34,287 --> 01:04:37,498 Otherwise, it never would have come out. I wouldn't have said anything. 1086 01:04:37,582 --> 01:04:39,417 I've never said anything about anyone. 1087 01:04:39,500 --> 01:04:42,420 Hollywood actors are so scared about being named in this thing. 1088 01:04:42,503 --> 01:04:44,589 Do you realize, since they cracked down on her, 1089 01:04:44,672 --> 01:04:48,926 some of the best acting is going on? People going, "Heidi who? No." 1090 01:04:49,010 --> 01:04:51,304 Heidi has indeed become famous, 1091 01:04:51,387 --> 01:04:54,640 attracting the attention of the news media from all over the world. 1092 01:04:54,724 --> 01:04:55,641 Let us through. 1093 01:04:55,725 --> 01:04:58,144 It was an intense struggle for Heidi 1094 01:04:58,227 --> 01:05:00,354 to get into the Division 30 courtroom. 1095 01:05:00,438 --> 01:05:03,024 Everyone wanted to capture a shot of Heidi. 1096 01:05:05,359 --> 01:05:08,905 The day after I was arrested, I was sitting out by my pool, 1097 01:05:08,988 --> 01:05:10,948 looking over the whole city. 1098 01:05:11,032 --> 01:05:12,950 I lived in real Beverly Hills. 1099 01:05:13,534 --> 01:05:16,120 I bought my house from the actor Michael Douglas. 1100 01:05:18,331 --> 01:05:21,125 I'm sitting looking at it, just bailed out, going, 1101 01:05:21,208 --> 01:05:25,087 "How did I fuck up the best job on earth?" 1102 01:05:26,255 --> 01:05:28,299 They had the checks. 1103 01:05:28,382 --> 01:05:30,343 Yeah, that's the part that sunk me. 1104 01:05:30,426 --> 01:05:32,595 That's the part I couldn't talk my way out of. 1105 01:05:32,678 --> 01:05:35,056 I had meetings with the U.S. Attorney, and they said, 1106 01:05:35,139 --> 01:05:38,935 "We will grant you immunity, but you have to roll on her." 1107 01:05:39,018 --> 01:05:44,231 So… you know, I didn't want to be a rat, but there was no other way out of it. 1108 01:05:44,732 --> 01:05:47,401 Robert Mitchum, he was arrested for marijuana. 1109 01:05:47,485 --> 01:05:50,947 They said, "Tell us your dealer." He said, "Charge me with a crime." 1110 01:05:51,030 --> 01:05:52,949 Charlie should have said, "Charge me." 1111 01:05:53,032 --> 01:05:56,327 He's a crybaby rich boy. He's a rich kid from Malibu. 1112 01:05:56,410 --> 01:05:58,996 They're not gonna do shit to him. He's Charlie Sheen. 1113 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,917 He was at his peak then. They're not going to do anything to him. 1114 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,126 Are you kidding me? 1115 01:06:04,210 --> 01:06:05,920 They threatened me. 1116 01:06:06,003 --> 01:06:09,006 They said, "Look, just so you know, 1117 01:06:09,090 --> 01:06:11,926 it's a misdemeanor to hire a gal, 1118 01:06:12,009 --> 01:06:14,470 but if you get a couple of gals 1119 01:06:14,553 --> 01:06:17,807 and give one to your buddy, that's pandering." 1120 01:06:18,557 --> 01:06:20,017 "That's three to five." 1121 01:06:20,101 --> 01:06:24,480 I said, "Well, no, I would never pay for gals for my pals." You know? 1122 01:06:24,563 --> 01:06:26,607 They said, "We have proof that you did." 1123 01:06:26,691 --> 01:06:27,775 That was the deal. 1124 01:06:27,858 --> 01:06:30,653 That was a thing that was like, yeah, of course, 1125 01:06:30,736 --> 01:06:34,490 a couple of two, three girls show up and you're with your buddies and it's… 1126 01:06:35,199 --> 01:06:37,451 You know, you get to be a hero, right? 1127 01:06:37,535 --> 01:06:42,957 And so I didn't know doing that was such a potential severe violation 1128 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,126 of whatever that law is, you know. 1129 01:06:45,209 --> 01:06:47,545 So, yeah, I was in the soup, man. 1130 01:06:47,628 --> 01:06:49,714 It was a really difficult time. 1131 01:06:49,797 --> 01:06:53,092 When you're facing, like, seven and a half years in jail, 1132 01:06:53,175 --> 01:06:57,263 might as well be a death sentence, because at that young age, you know, 1133 01:06:57,346 --> 01:06:59,098 it just seems like eternity. 1134 01:06:59,181 --> 01:07:02,685 He testified he spent more than $50,000 in three years 1135 01:07:02,768 --> 01:07:04,937 soliciting prostitutes from Fleiss. 1136 01:07:05,021 --> 01:07:07,606 Was he a good client, Charlie Sheen? 1137 01:07:07,690 --> 01:07:10,234 When I said, "Are you really trying to put this lady away 1138 01:07:10,317 --> 01:07:13,237 for basically running a successful business 1139 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,614 that's one of the oldest professions on Earth?" 1140 01:07:15,698 --> 01:07:19,285 They said, "It's not really about that. It's about tax evasion." 1141 01:07:22,038 --> 01:07:27,418 So I sat with that, and I felt like… that that, um… 1142 01:07:28,419 --> 01:07:31,005 that really kind of on her at that point. 1143 01:07:31,088 --> 01:07:33,549 He testified against me, and I went to jail. 1144 01:07:33,632 --> 01:07:34,759 We, the jury, 1145 01:07:34,842 --> 01:07:37,845 find the defendant, Heidi Lynne Fleiss, guilty. 1146 01:07:37,928 --> 01:07:42,183 Heidi Fleiss was sentenced to 37 months in jail and a $400 fine 1147 01:07:42,266 --> 01:07:43,517 for cheating on taxes 1148 01:07:43,601 --> 01:07:46,228 and laundering profits for her call girl service. 1149 01:07:46,312 --> 01:07:49,440 Before I went to prison, I moved to the beach 1150 01:07:49,523 --> 01:07:53,235 and opened up like a lingerie store like Juicy. 1151 01:07:53,319 --> 01:07:56,489 Opened up on 3rd Street Promenade and Old Town Pasadena. 1152 01:07:56,989 --> 01:08:00,326 And that was just to switch everything. 1153 01:08:00,409 --> 01:08:04,872 And then, so one evening, Charlie's dad, Martin Sheen, came in the store. 1154 01:08:05,456 --> 01:08:09,001 And he's telling me to go easy on Charlie. 1155 01:08:09,085 --> 01:08:13,964 And I'm thinking, "Go easy on Charlie? I'm the one going to jail. I was never--" 1156 01:08:14,048 --> 01:08:17,510 "The best deal I was offered was seven and a half years." 1157 01:08:18,094 --> 01:08:20,304 "And he's telling me to go easy on Charlie?" 1158 01:08:20,387 --> 01:08:23,390 But that's just a father's love for his son. 1159 01:08:23,474 --> 01:08:25,434 And it's totally understandable. 1160 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,688 We're not taught as children how to deal with success. 1161 01:08:29,772 --> 01:08:32,358 They always say, if at first you don't succeed, try again. 1162 01:08:32,441 --> 01:08:34,401 That's dealing with failure, you know. 1163 01:08:34,485 --> 01:08:38,781 Nobody ever said, "If at first you succeed… what do you do?" 1164 01:08:39,281 --> 01:08:42,243 -You know? -Yeah. What do you do? 1165 01:08:42,326 --> 01:08:43,619 I don't know, run and hide. 1166 01:08:45,538 --> 01:08:47,790 The work, the money. 1167 01:08:47,873 --> 01:08:49,542 Back in circulation, huh, Charlie? 1168 01:08:49,625 --> 01:08:52,461 Oh, yeah. My circulation's fine. 1169 01:08:52,545 --> 01:08:53,838 It kept happening. 1170 01:08:53,921 --> 01:08:57,424 Sheen reportedly took home between three and five million dollars. 1171 01:08:57,508 --> 01:09:00,511 There were no real consequences. 1172 01:09:03,305 --> 01:09:05,933 We proudly welcome to the Hollywood Walk of Fame, 1173 01:09:06,016 --> 01:09:07,309 Charlie Sheen. 1174 01:09:09,603 --> 01:09:10,563 Woo! 1175 01:09:10,646 --> 01:09:13,315 Damn, you got a lot of pull in this town. 1176 01:09:13,399 --> 01:09:14,567 Charlie Sheen, man. 1177 01:09:15,609 --> 01:09:18,529 He's always been loyal to me from the start. 1178 01:09:19,405 --> 01:09:21,657 Charlie was executive producing the movie. 1179 01:09:21,740 --> 01:09:25,911 And the studio wanted to give Charlie first billing. 1180 01:09:25,995 --> 01:09:29,290 And he was like, "No, Chris should have first billing." 1181 01:09:29,373 --> 01:09:31,000 "I'm having second billing." 1182 01:09:31,083 --> 01:09:34,545 He's this huge star, you know, not being selfish. 1183 01:09:34,628 --> 01:09:36,172 Who does that in Hollywood? 1184 01:09:36,881 --> 01:09:39,258 -We good? -Yeah, we're great. 1185 01:09:39,341 --> 01:09:41,844 Charlie Sheen, Chris Tucker on the set of Money Talks. 1186 01:09:41,927 --> 01:09:44,388 The movie started great, and we were cooking with gas. 1187 01:09:44,471 --> 01:09:45,973 Let's do it again. 1188 01:09:46,056 --> 01:09:48,809 Then it got away from me, like it usually does. 1189 01:09:48,893 --> 01:09:51,145 I remember one day he didn't show up to work, 1190 01:09:51,228 --> 01:09:54,106 but I was late too, so I was like, 1191 01:09:54,190 --> 01:09:56,442 "I'm glad he didn't, so they stay off of me." 1192 01:09:56,525 --> 01:09:57,735 It was one of those things. 1193 01:09:57,818 --> 01:10:00,070 But when he showed up, we were ready to work. 1194 01:10:00,154 --> 01:10:04,116 One day, I got an 18-hour nosebleed from doing too much cocaine. 1195 01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:08,412 And that's usually kind of the threshold where you go and get it checked out. 1196 01:10:08,495 --> 01:10:11,749 And I didn't. I just kept kind of blotting it. 1197 01:10:11,832 --> 01:10:15,127 There was one night where it dripped onto my shirt during a scene. 1198 01:10:15,211 --> 01:10:18,964 And I got the director, Brett Ratner, to agree to, 1199 01:10:19,048 --> 01:10:21,592 you know, make that shot go away forever. 1200 01:10:21,675 --> 01:10:23,928 He did, because we've never seen it, right? 1201 01:10:24,553 --> 01:10:28,432 And that's when it starts to get that the priorities are, 1202 01:10:28,933 --> 01:10:31,435 you know, couldn't be more wonky, you know? 1203 01:10:32,061 --> 01:10:33,479 Hey, Larry. Come here. 1204 01:10:33,562 --> 01:10:37,191 I was taking jobs to just fuel the habits. 1205 01:10:37,274 --> 01:10:39,944 I don't know about you, but I got a bad feeling about this. 1206 01:10:42,071 --> 01:10:47,243 I was in Montreal and I was shooting this movie called Free Money. 1207 01:10:47,326 --> 01:10:51,038 I found a dope connection as soon as I got to Montreal. 1208 01:10:51,121 --> 01:10:54,166 Remind the audience that you refer to dope as something different… 1209 01:10:54,250 --> 01:10:55,334 It's cocaine, yeah. 1210 01:10:55,417 --> 01:10:58,587 So I had overshot the mark. 1211 01:10:59,088 --> 01:11:05,135 And it got to the point where I literally could not keep my eyes open. 1212 01:11:05,219 --> 01:11:08,347 I felt they were so burned and so heavy. 1213 01:11:08,430 --> 01:11:09,848 The director kinda spotted it. 1214 01:11:09,932 --> 01:11:13,227 He says, "You look like you're falling asleep on camera," 1215 01:11:13,310 --> 01:11:15,187 which had never happened before. 1216 01:11:15,271 --> 01:11:18,983 I said to him, I said, uh, "I need a glass of ice." 1217 01:11:19,650 --> 01:11:20,567 He was like, "Okay." 1218 01:11:20,651 --> 01:11:23,362 He gave me a glass of ice. I said, "I'll be right back." 1219 01:11:23,445 --> 01:11:25,447 There was a little bathroom. 1220 01:11:26,407 --> 01:11:29,660 And I went in there, and I took an ice cube, 1221 01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:31,829 and I shoved it up my butt. 1222 01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:36,458 I'd never done that before. And man, I was wide awake. 1223 01:11:37,543 --> 01:11:39,753 Just enough to get back on the mark 1224 01:11:39,837 --> 01:11:43,340 and finish the fucking scene with an ice cube in my ass. 1225 01:11:43,424 --> 01:11:46,051 Making the big money run in a couple weeks, right, Louis? 1226 01:11:46,135 --> 01:11:47,845 Yes, sir. With assistance. 1227 01:11:48,429 --> 01:11:49,763 You're shitting me. 1228 01:11:49,847 --> 01:11:52,266 Between the Midwest provinces and the U.S. banks? 1229 01:11:52,349 --> 01:11:54,018 That's us. Right, Louis? 1230 01:11:54,101 --> 01:11:57,938 Yes, sir. With assistance. You sure don't want a beer? 1231 01:11:58,022 --> 01:11:59,231 Can I buy you guys a beer? 1232 01:11:59,315 --> 01:12:03,736 My theory has always been that I don't know that he believes 1233 01:12:03,819 --> 01:12:06,655 uh, that he deserves what he's got. 1234 01:12:07,573 --> 01:12:11,577 I think there's a part of him that throws it all away 1235 01:12:12,077 --> 01:12:15,039 just to see if he ever deserved it. 1236 01:12:15,706 --> 01:12:18,417 That is what drives people crazy who are close to him, 1237 01:12:18,500 --> 01:12:21,003 is that there's so many great things about him. 1238 01:12:21,086 --> 01:12:25,257 If he only believed it, he might stop burning it all down. 1239 01:12:30,346 --> 01:12:32,514 I'm going to tell you something very candid. 1240 01:12:34,933 --> 01:12:38,812 And this is one example, and it's biological. 1241 01:12:48,113 --> 01:12:50,449 Most people, men… 1242 01:12:52,409 --> 01:12:54,995 who do cocaine… 1243 01:12:57,247 --> 01:12:59,708 copious amounts of cocaine… 1244 01:13:02,127 --> 01:13:05,881 have extremely enhanced 1245 01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,926 sexual fantasies, 1246 01:13:10,344 --> 01:13:16,016 but extremely derailed sexual competency at that time. 1247 01:13:19,770 --> 01:13:23,524 Thank God for anybody that describes 1248 01:13:24,608 --> 01:13:28,695 that their dick don't work when full of cocaine. 1249 01:13:30,030 --> 01:13:33,492 What the fuck would it be like if it was the opposite? 1250 01:13:33,992 --> 01:13:35,661 Ask Charlie Sheen. 1251 01:13:40,416 --> 01:13:44,002 There's a young gal that C. Thomas Howell and myself 1252 01:13:44,086 --> 01:13:45,796 were kind of seeing at the same time, 1253 01:13:45,879 --> 01:13:48,424 and she was really sweet and sexy and adorable. 1254 01:13:49,258 --> 01:13:50,759 She reached out to me one night. 1255 01:13:50,843 --> 01:13:53,637 I'm still in my condo in Malibu, and she said, 1256 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:58,267 "Hey, I'm in a spot that I need to be extracted from at once." 1257 01:14:00,060 --> 01:14:01,019 So I went over there. 1258 01:14:01,103 --> 01:14:04,314 It was this kind of semi-rundown apartment just over the canyon. 1259 01:14:05,232 --> 01:14:06,984 Woodland Hills, maybe. 1260 01:14:07,484 --> 01:14:09,945 And I pull up, and it's about ten o'clock at night. 1261 01:14:10,028 --> 01:14:12,531 She's in there, and she's in there with this guy. 1262 01:14:12,614 --> 01:14:17,786 And the vibe of the place was not pleasant at all. 1263 01:14:17,870 --> 01:14:22,374 It was eerie, and it felt really unsafe for me. 1264 01:14:22,458 --> 01:14:26,295 I can imagine what she was going through to make this secret call. 1265 01:14:26,378 --> 01:14:28,046 He was like, "Who the fuck are you?" 1266 01:14:28,130 --> 01:14:30,382 I'm like, "Hey, man, I don't mean to barge in, 1267 01:14:30,466 --> 01:14:33,844 but I'm a friend of Sandy's, and she said she needed to get out of here." 1268 01:14:33,927 --> 01:14:36,388 "So I'm here to facilitate that, you know?" 1269 01:14:36,472 --> 01:14:39,224 And he says, "Well, hold on a minute." And he… 1270 01:14:39,308 --> 01:14:42,936 He fucking grabs her and pins her against the wall. 1271 01:14:43,020 --> 01:14:45,022 And the dude was pretty big. 1272 01:14:45,105 --> 01:14:48,108 And he's yelling at her about a bunch of shit, you know, 1273 01:14:48,192 --> 01:14:50,360 and something about money she owes him, or… 1274 01:14:50,444 --> 01:14:55,282 And I'm like, "Oh, this is moments from getting away from everybody." 1275 01:14:55,908 --> 01:14:58,535 So he's now looking at me, and my car is really close, 1276 01:14:58,619 --> 01:15:04,416 so I go back to the car, and I got an HK P7 M13 9 mil in my glove box. 1277 01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:07,544 I put that in my waistband. I come back in the house, and I said, 1278 01:15:07,628 --> 01:15:09,796 "Whatever's going on, let's just call it quits." 1279 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:11,965 "She's coming with me now." 1280 01:15:18,305 --> 01:15:19,973 So we get back to the condo. 1281 01:15:21,183 --> 01:15:24,311 She falls asleep on the couch. I let her rest for a couple hours. 1282 01:15:25,395 --> 01:15:29,191 The next morning, I'm giving her some juice and, you know, 1283 01:15:29,274 --> 01:15:31,193 a snack, whatever, trying to be hospitable. 1284 01:15:31,276 --> 01:15:32,402 I really like this girl. 1285 01:15:34,071 --> 01:15:38,825 And she says, "If you don't mind, I'm starting to jones a little bit, 1286 01:15:38,909 --> 01:15:43,038 and I kind of need to just get back up on my shit, you know." 1287 01:15:44,373 --> 01:15:46,959 And I'm like, "Yeah, sure, whatever." 1288 01:15:48,669 --> 01:15:52,798 She pulls out her pipe and loads it up, and takes a big hit. 1289 01:15:56,510 --> 01:16:00,973 And just lies back on the couch like she's inside the best moment of all time. 1290 01:16:01,682 --> 01:16:03,517 I'm a little curious. 1291 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:04,851 I'm a little bit curious. 1292 01:16:04,935 --> 01:16:08,855 I've done a lot of cocaine up to that point, just not in that form. 1293 01:16:11,066 --> 01:16:14,903 She says, you know, "I don't want to talk you into anything, 1294 01:16:14,987 --> 01:16:18,657 but if you're curious, I think you might really enjoy this." 1295 01:16:19,449 --> 01:16:21,243 And I said, "I don't know, man." 1296 01:16:21,326 --> 01:16:25,706 "It's like, you know, I'm trying to-- I got a lot of shit coming up." 1297 01:16:26,665 --> 01:16:29,793 At that point, she's feeling the sexual charge from her hit. 1298 01:16:29,876 --> 01:16:34,840 So she's starting to undress, and she's almost completely naked at this point. 1299 01:16:35,424 --> 01:16:38,677 So she says, "Well, let me combo this up for you." 1300 01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:42,598 "Let me do something for you while you're doing this." 1301 01:16:43,223 --> 01:16:46,602 How do I present this with, uh, any class? 1302 01:16:46,685 --> 01:16:48,061 -Um… -We're past that. 1303 01:16:48,145 --> 01:16:49,354 We're past that. Yeah. 1304 01:16:49,438 --> 01:16:53,609 She decides that giving me a blowjob while I'm taking my first hit of crack 1305 01:16:53,692 --> 01:16:55,736 is going to be an experience. 1306 01:17:08,957 --> 01:17:11,376 And so it was indescribable. 1307 01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:14,963 It took me to a place in my brain and in my body, and what she was doing, 1308 01:17:15,047 --> 01:17:17,674 and it all made sense 1309 01:17:17,758 --> 01:17:23,597 on a level that I was really excited to finally embrace. 1310 01:17:24,348 --> 01:17:28,310 But in that same breath, in that same experience, 1311 01:17:28,393 --> 01:17:34,024 I'm deathly afraid of how far this could get away from me. 1312 01:17:34,107 --> 01:17:35,067 I was aware of that. 1313 01:17:35,150 --> 01:17:37,110 -In the moment? -In the moment, yeah. 1314 01:17:37,194 --> 01:17:42,991 The duality of those two conflicting forces… 1315 01:17:43,075 --> 01:17:45,202 Banging seven-gram rocks and finishing them. 1316 01:17:45,285 --> 01:17:51,792 …was something that, uh, to this day, 1317 01:17:51,875 --> 01:17:55,462 just were peerless, you know? 1318 01:17:55,962 --> 01:18:00,384 I mean, I got kind of a little… shaky telling that. 1319 01:18:00,467 --> 01:18:01,301 Yeah. 1320 01:18:01,385 --> 01:18:05,514 Not like I'm a fucking sissy, and I got shaken up by my own story, 1321 01:18:05,597 --> 01:18:09,226 but I could feel some of that shit coming back up. 1322 01:18:09,309 --> 01:18:10,519 Um… 1323 01:18:11,853 --> 01:18:14,523 Sadly, she died. 1324 01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:17,359 She died, yeah. She OD'd on that shit. 1325 01:18:17,442 --> 01:18:18,360 She OD'd? 1326 01:18:18,443 --> 01:18:21,738 Yeah, I think shortly before or right after her 30th birthday. 1327 01:18:21,822 --> 01:18:23,990 You know, it was just such a loss. 1328 01:18:24,908 --> 01:18:26,201 Such a waste. 1329 01:18:32,124 --> 01:18:35,460 Is crack the thing you just wish had never entered your life? 1330 01:18:38,213 --> 01:18:39,923 Yeah, if I could, um… 1331 01:18:40,006 --> 01:18:45,679 If-if… if I could just kind of… carve that one out or just erase it, 1332 01:18:46,179 --> 01:18:51,309 just take it completely… out of the equation, um… 1333 01:18:52,394 --> 01:18:54,563 yeah, I think it would have-- 1334 01:18:54,646 --> 01:18:58,775 I probably would have avoided some, uh… 1335 01:18:59,693 --> 01:19:02,946 some pretty awful situations, you know? 1336 01:19:08,118 --> 01:19:10,704 The party was over. I just didn't know it yet. 1337 01:19:14,416 --> 01:19:15,917 I'd tried everything. 1338 01:19:16,001 --> 01:19:19,546 Why not try shooting up cocaine? 1339 01:19:22,090 --> 01:19:24,509 It felt cinematic. It felt dangerous. 1340 01:19:24,593 --> 01:19:27,679 It felt, you know, like it had to be such a secret. 1341 01:19:29,431 --> 01:19:32,350 I drew it up just like, 1342 01:19:32,851 --> 01:19:35,812 you know, Tarantino taught so many of us. 1343 01:19:40,025 --> 01:19:42,861 I had a Japanese tattoo that was the colors of war. 1344 01:19:43,945 --> 01:19:45,697 Black and red. 1345 01:19:45,781 --> 01:19:46,823 And wow. 1346 01:19:47,824 --> 01:19:50,786 Things changed… …so quickly. 1347 01:19:59,085 --> 01:20:01,922 It's as though I was suddenly falling forward, 1348 01:20:02,005 --> 01:20:06,510 and I could hear all the blood in my body rushing 1349 01:20:06,593 --> 01:20:11,807 as though I had both ears covered with seashells at the beach. 1350 01:20:13,183 --> 01:20:18,313 My legs are shaking so badly that I'm taking these two-inch, like, 1351 01:20:18,396 --> 01:20:21,608 I don't know, fucking Joe Biden steps, right? 1352 01:20:22,692 --> 01:20:25,695 My bodyguard, Zip, was still on the premises. 1353 01:20:26,279 --> 01:20:30,242 I said, "You've got to call 911 because this is beyond both of us." 1354 01:20:35,205 --> 01:20:39,292 He was admitted to Los Robles Regional Medical Center at 5:30 a.m., 1355 01:20:39,376 --> 01:20:41,503 accompanied by his father. 1356 01:20:41,586 --> 01:20:45,257 Rumors ran rampant that the younger Sheen had a stroke and died, 1357 01:20:45,340 --> 01:20:48,426 one reason why his father wanted to set the record straight. 1358 01:20:48,510 --> 01:20:52,556 First I want to assure you, my son, Charlie Sheen, is very much alive. 1359 01:20:54,057 --> 01:20:55,809 I was kind of in and out, 1360 01:20:55,892 --> 01:20:57,269 and sedated, you know. 1361 01:20:57,352 --> 01:21:00,313 And so he was doing all that without my knowledge. 1362 01:21:00,397 --> 01:21:04,025 My son was admitted here yesterday as a result of a drug overdose. 1363 01:21:04,109 --> 01:21:06,570 It felt like it dumped a bunch of gas on the fire. 1364 01:21:07,237 --> 01:21:10,991 We are in the stages right now of recovery. 1365 01:21:11,575 --> 01:21:13,577 I had a huge resentment about that. 1366 01:21:13,660 --> 01:21:17,330 I said, "Give me a little bit of space and mind your own fucking business." 1367 01:21:17,414 --> 01:21:18,748 "I can get a handle on this." 1368 01:21:18,832 --> 01:21:22,919 We're going to have it out, you and me, right now, son! 1369 01:21:23,003 --> 01:21:24,713 Dad is so freaking frustrated, 1370 01:21:24,796 --> 01:21:27,632 thinking he and I were coming to fisticuffs, right? 1371 01:21:27,716 --> 01:21:30,969 So he took out his teeth because he didn't want to damage them. 1372 01:21:31,052 --> 01:21:34,806 Somebody said, "Martin, hold on. Violence is not the answer." 1373 01:21:36,182 --> 01:21:38,226 Everybody was super frustrated. 1374 01:21:38,727 --> 01:21:41,938 The time expired that they could hold me, legally. 1375 01:21:42,522 --> 01:21:44,482 I said to Zip, "Get me to the condo." 1376 01:21:44,566 --> 01:21:46,776 Yeah, I wanted to stay high. 1377 01:21:48,904 --> 01:21:51,948 It is my hope that he will accept recovery 1378 01:21:53,283 --> 01:21:54,534 and become free. 1379 01:21:57,287 --> 01:22:00,749 Do anything you can to get between drugs and your kids. 1380 01:22:02,417 --> 01:22:05,503 It's not an easy moment in our lives, but it is a very important one, 1381 01:22:05,587 --> 01:22:07,005 a very necessary one. 1382 01:22:09,299 --> 01:22:11,551 Actor Charlie Sheen skipped the drug rehab center. 1383 01:22:11,635 --> 01:22:15,430 Sheen left with his friends over the weekend to go partying. 1384 01:22:15,513 --> 01:22:19,059 The addiction has gotten to a point where I'm scared at this point. 1385 01:22:19,142 --> 01:22:23,813 I'm asking all of his friends and fans to pray for him. 1386 01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:29,903 We're up three, four days, and I didn't want the party to end. 1387 01:22:31,488 --> 01:22:32,822 And the phone rings. 1388 01:22:32,906 --> 01:22:36,868 "There's a warrant for your arrest. The marshals are en route." 1389 01:22:36,952 --> 01:22:39,120 Sheen's father, actor Martin Sheen, 1390 01:22:39,204 --> 01:22:43,875 asked California police to make the arrest to help his son overcome his drug problem. 1391 01:22:47,003 --> 01:22:48,421 I didn't have a plan. 1392 01:22:48,505 --> 01:22:51,758 I didn't know how long I could push this thing. 1393 01:22:51,841 --> 01:22:55,679 I think maybe then it was perhaps considering Mexico. 1394 01:22:56,388 --> 01:22:58,682 Meanwhile, Dad's running around doing all he can. 1395 01:22:59,391 --> 01:23:03,937 I want to get out of the way of this thing, so that, uh… 1396 01:23:05,230 --> 01:23:07,399 uh… a healing can occur. 1397 01:23:08,108 --> 01:23:11,903 Three words, "I love you." That was his parenting style. 1398 01:23:11,987 --> 01:23:14,239 Fear is useless. 1399 01:23:14,322 --> 01:23:16,241 Faith is necessary. 1400 01:23:16,324 --> 01:23:18,827 Love is everything. 1401 01:23:18,910 --> 01:23:23,331 We wound up, just a little pit stop, at Slash's house. 1402 01:23:23,415 --> 01:23:28,628 He said, "I don't know that I've seen anyone before in this kind of shape." 1403 01:23:29,212 --> 01:23:32,882 This is Slash, right? Uh… 1404 01:23:32,966 --> 01:23:34,175 GNR rock god. 1405 01:23:34,259 --> 01:23:35,844 Uh, the life he's led. 1406 01:23:35,927 --> 01:23:38,888 He said, "You're out of options. You've got to get the rehab." 1407 01:23:38,972 --> 01:23:40,557 "You've got to save yourself, man." 1408 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,101 Coming from him, the way he presented it, "Whoa." 1409 01:23:43,685 --> 01:23:45,520 Um… message delivered. 1410 01:23:45,603 --> 01:23:47,981 Dad, I'm going to jail and you know it. 1411 01:23:48,064 --> 01:23:50,442 It's the best thing that could have happened to you. 1412 01:23:51,317 --> 01:23:53,153 And with the current circumstances, 1413 01:23:53,236 --> 01:23:57,157 in light of what I perceive to be his ingestion of controlled substances, 1414 01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,410 he needs to be in a rehabilitation program. 1415 01:24:00,493 --> 01:24:04,581 Hearing about certain things on the news, it was, uh… it was out there. 1416 01:24:04,664 --> 01:24:05,707 Yeah. 1417 01:24:05,790 --> 01:24:08,251 It caught up with his life at that point. 1418 01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,172 I was definitely concerned. I would try to talk to people around him. 1419 01:24:12,255 --> 01:24:14,215 See how he was doing, where he was at. 1420 01:24:14,299 --> 01:24:18,720 But I wanted him to get better and to be safe. 1421 01:24:18,803 --> 01:24:23,641 And thank God for his family, that his father, man, just stuck with him. 1422 01:24:25,143 --> 01:24:26,853 They take me from the courthouse, 1423 01:24:26,936 --> 01:24:28,980 they deliver me to rehab. 1424 01:24:29,064 --> 01:24:31,733 And they sedate me heavily. 1425 01:24:31,816 --> 01:24:36,488 The equivalent of let's put the elephant to sleep for a week-sized dose. 1426 01:24:36,571 --> 01:24:38,948 Man, there was a guy watching me sleep, 1427 01:24:39,032 --> 01:24:40,700 and how he tells the story, 1428 01:24:40,784 --> 01:24:43,953 it was like Michael Myers in the background. 1429 01:24:45,789 --> 01:24:49,000 Just waking right up and kind of taking in my surroundings. 1430 01:24:51,252 --> 01:24:55,006 I said, "I got to-- I need some air. I got to take a walk." 1431 01:24:56,633 --> 01:24:57,467 And… 1432 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:03,098 I managed to get a hold of my trusty limo driver, Dylan. 1433 01:25:03,181 --> 01:25:05,266 I'm like, "My chariot has arrived!" 1434 01:25:09,062 --> 01:25:11,648 Behind us, it's just cherry top. 1435 01:25:11,731 --> 01:25:13,858 -Stand up! -Turn around! 1436 01:25:13,942 --> 01:25:15,652 Hands above your head. Don't move. 1437 01:25:15,735 --> 01:25:18,738 It's hard to have that much power out in the world 1438 01:25:18,822 --> 01:25:21,282 and then have it taken away in a flash. 1439 01:25:21,366 --> 01:25:23,868 They got me medicated pretty severely. 1440 01:25:24,369 --> 01:25:26,538 They wean you off the meds that they put you on. 1441 01:25:27,205 --> 01:25:31,709 I'm on, like, day 11, and it's the first day I'm off everything. 1442 01:25:31,793 --> 01:25:33,503 And I start to fucking panic. 1443 01:25:33,586 --> 01:25:36,881 Those were the most difficult moments to navigate, 1444 01:25:36,965 --> 01:25:40,301 kind of having to accept that the party was over. 1445 01:25:42,846 --> 01:25:44,430 I get a hold of my bodyguard, Zip. 1446 01:25:45,723 --> 01:25:50,228 And Zip goes through my condo and breaks everything out of it. 1447 01:25:50,812 --> 01:25:51,938 Sticks it in a bag. 1448 01:25:53,523 --> 01:25:57,068 In one of the quietest nights I've ever existed in, 1449 01:25:57,152 --> 01:26:01,614 this bag comes, like, skittering through the night air 1450 01:26:01,698 --> 01:26:04,033 so fucking loud you couldn't believe it. 1451 01:26:04,117 --> 01:26:07,245 And this thing hits the mud. 1452 01:26:08,329 --> 01:26:10,206 Sober gods were like, "All right, man." 1453 01:26:10,290 --> 01:26:12,667 "You're gonna get a bit of shit on you for this one." 1454 01:26:13,293 --> 01:26:17,297 I have one hit, and it's not great. Nothing at that point is great. 1455 01:26:17,380 --> 01:26:20,508 I remember sitting in the room, staring at the freaking ceiling, 1456 01:26:20,592 --> 01:26:23,636 this beige concrete ceiling. 1457 01:26:24,345 --> 01:26:27,473 There was no high left. 1458 01:26:38,860 --> 01:26:42,947 Yeah, I get a knock on my door, and I knew that was coming. 1459 01:26:43,031 --> 01:26:47,202 And I had this Dick Tracy fedora that I'd been wearing around town. 1460 01:26:47,285 --> 01:26:48,870 They were like, "Where's the dope?" 1461 01:26:49,537 --> 01:26:52,165 So I basically just take my hat off and give them the dope. 1462 01:26:52,874 --> 01:26:56,336 And I said to him, "I have but one request." 1463 01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,839 There was a crucial game six, Jazz-Bulls. 1464 01:26:59,923 --> 01:27:06,846 And I said, "All I want to do is be able to sit down and watch that freaking game." 1465 01:27:06,930 --> 01:27:08,514 Are y'all ready for Air Jordan? 1466 01:27:09,807 --> 01:27:10,934 -Air who? -Air who? 1467 01:27:11,017 --> 01:27:13,519 He said, "All right, that's actually a good sign." 1468 01:27:13,603 --> 01:27:19,025 "I'm encouraged that you're still seeking an interest in something that grounded." 1469 01:27:19,108 --> 01:27:22,278 To Malone, they double him. Jordan knocks it away from him. 1470 01:27:22,362 --> 01:27:24,864 Jordan's got it. The Bulls could win it right here. 1471 01:27:24,948 --> 01:27:26,491 And I did watch that game. 1472 01:27:26,574 --> 01:27:29,035 Michael against Russell, 12 seconds. 1473 01:27:29,118 --> 01:27:31,788 11, 10, Jordan. 1474 01:27:31,871 --> 01:27:34,207 Jordan at the line, fires. 1475 01:27:34,290 --> 01:27:35,541 And he hit The Shot. 1476 01:27:37,377 --> 01:27:38,378 He scores! 1477 01:27:38,962 --> 01:27:40,922 He stayed the course and I didn't. 1478 01:27:41,005 --> 01:27:43,508 …to Martin, baseline, left to Charlie. 1479 01:27:43,591 --> 01:27:44,592 It's good! 1480 01:27:46,386 --> 01:27:51,766 I knew after that, that game was going to be my new sobriety date. 1481 01:27:52,433 --> 01:27:54,769 Things were gonna be fucking different. 1482 01:28:00,275 --> 01:28:02,235 Yeah, a… a lot different. 1483 01:28:04,279 --> 01:28:08,533 I had no idea how badly this could blow up. 1484 01:28:08,616 --> 01:28:09,909 I'm doing all right. 1485 01:28:09,993 --> 01:28:12,203 Every time the bell rings, you gotta take a shot. 1486 01:28:12,287 --> 01:28:13,246 Why? 1487 01:28:14,455 --> 01:28:15,790 Because the bell rings. 1488 01:28:29,637 --> 01:28:32,974 Untreated crazy over time doesn't get better. It gets fucking worse. 1489 01:28:33,975 --> 01:28:34,934 Winning! 118607

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