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WEBVTT FILE
- ♪ I never realized how happy you made me ♪
♪ Oh, Mandy ♪
♪ Oh, Mandy ♪
♪ Oh, Mandy ♪
♪ Oh, Mandy ♪
- If you haven't seen William White on your social media
feeds recently lip-syncing to retro hits,
well, then check your phone.
It's probably broken.
- 21-year-old William White now has 2 million followers
just by doing stuff like this.
- ♪ And I need you more than ever ♪
- ♪ Tell me why ♪
- We gave up our lives to raise children, be married.
But, Whiteyy, your phenomenon keyed us back into that fun
part of our lives.
- Hit after hit after hit.
How will he keep doing this?
- ♪ A little trick called the night ♪
- What do you want to know?
[smooch sounds]
- What's the next TikTok, guys?
What are you guys thinking?
What song are you guys thinking?
Backwards hat?
You guys love the backwards hat more than the forwards hat.
Where is my hat?
[light funky music]
♪ ♪
♪ Set adrift on memory bliss on you ♪
That's a good song.
But I do that too much.
♪ ♪
Right now we've got 400, almost, in the room.
♪ ♪
What's up husbands in the chat?
Thank you for letting your wife watch me, you know?
I know it's hard when this jawline's popping so hard,
but it's OK.
[laughs]
- ♪ They got nothing on you ♪
♪ Nuh, nuh, nuh nothing on you ♪
- My name is William James White.
I am a TikToker, just a full-time beauty,
hot guy, funny all-around kind of person that people love.
[Bob Seger's, "Old Time Rock & Roll"]
[electronic music]
I like money, fame, success.
I'm like one of the few that has older fans.
♪ ♪
- It's 1:17 in the afternoon, and all I've done so far
is watch Whiteyy live videos.
- I just want to thank you guys just for all these moms
showing me so much support.
It's awesome.
And it's funny, but it's awesome.
The older fans spend.
They have money.
- So my obsession used to be shopping,
and now it's Whiteyy18.
- ♪ All I want to do is close my eyes ♪
♪ Here in the groove oh, uh-huh ♪
♪ 'Cuz it's a good night to get up off the wall ♪
- Wow.
Thank you so much, guys.
I feel like a lot of my fans needed to feel young again,
like, gain a spark back.
- I've been lusting after William White,
who's younger than my son.
- All right, look at this kid.
He is messing with us old ladies playing our musics
and looking like this.
Wi-- young man, I will ground you.
Don't wink.
Fuck.
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
- ♪ No matter what I do all I think about is you ♪
- Guys, I love all you guys in here so much.
- Say hello to William White!
[cheers and applause]
- You are "People's" Sexiest TikTok Star.
- I love my fans.
If I can be there for them, they can be there for me.
Like, this is awesome, right?
- Where did this guy come from?
- Y'all are making me fall in love all over again over here.
- It was just there's something about Will.
I think he's got that X factor.
- Oh my God, he went live.
He went live.
- My childhood, I was playing hockey my whole life.
[upbeat music]
It started out just going to hockey camps,
seeing the hot guy that all the girls wanted.
So I'm like, why is that guy-- like, he's fucking sick.
I want to be just like that guy.
So then I would look at myself all
the time in the mirror, flip my hair,
try to look so "pretty boy."
- ♪ I'm like, hey, what's up hello ♪
♪ Seen your pretty face ♪
♪ Soon as you came in the door ♪
- I saw people blowing up on TikTok.
So I was like, why not do this?
- He's live on Kik 23 minutes ago.
See, because I have my phone on silent,
so I'm not getting the live alerts.
I'm in several life-- yes, he's on Kik.
- It's here, right? - Yes. Sorry.
[laughs]
I do have a fangirl account.
My fangirl account is @WilliamsBBGirl,
- William's Baby Girl.
[laughs]
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
- Yeah.
He shaves.
Sometimes he has chest hair so much, sometimes he doesn't.
- You can call me Will's Gutter Girl.
♪ ♪
In four years, I've missed two lives.
One life was at my son's funeral.
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
- My phone is ridiculous.
I think I've probably got 22,000 videos.
I've saved TikToks, clips from lives.
I record all the lives.
[laughs]
♪ ♪
- He is unbelievably hot, and people do not
look like this in real life.
The most important thing about what I'm wearing
is my hat, because this is a William White hat.
This is his actual signature.
- I switch off because I have a yellow one.
I have a pink one.
I have this black one.
So I switch off depending on the outfit.
It was the pandemic.
We were bored.
A lot of us were downloading TikTok for the first time.
The algorithm gave me what they thought a middle-aged
woman would want--
recipes, how-tos, making your own soap.
It was all super random.
Then all of a sudden, this young man
rolls up across my FYP, and it was like a like a light bulb
went off.
- ♪ If I could fly
♪ Searching in in the night ♪
[dramatic music]
- Oh, my god, he's so hot.
I'd been homeschooling my child, and that's
when I was scrolling TikTok.
And William's TikTok came by, and I was intrigued.
- ♪ Meet you in the club ♪
♪ Meet you in the club ♪
- ♪ I'm feelin' some kind of way ♪
- Oh.
Oh, god.
See?
Watching William's TikToks, I was surprised at the feelings
that were coming up within me.
I'd been so focused on being a mom and being a career woman.
I had not even thought about men
or being intimate with anybody.
And watching him,
I started having strong desires, and it was really
exciting to feel that again.
- I've never met a person more in touch
with their physical being.
He exudes that sensuality.
- He's got the perfect wink.
He's got the perfect eye roll.
I like that.
[laughs]
[funky music]
- I'm scrolling his entire feed,
and it started getting dark.
I realized I'd been watching his TikTok for eight hours.
- [laughs]
Yes, I watched it for eight hours.
I was obsessed.
- ♪ For you, I'd bleed myself dry ♪
- I started going through his videos,
and he was working as a landscaper
and making TikToks on lunch break or after work.
He just had that look that he could
be a model, that he could be something
more than a landscaper.
And in my mind, I was like, I'm gonna help him get there.
[light piano music]
♪ ♪
- Yeah, when "Mandy" hit--
- He dropped "Mandy."
- He made "Mandy."
- I watched "Mandy."
- And "Mandy" was unbelievable.
- ♪ How happy you made me ♪
♪ Oh, Mandy ♪
♪ How happy you made me ♪
♪ Oh, Mandy ♪
♪ Oh, Mandy ♪
- The eye roll, the wink--
like, the iconic wink, nobody can wink like him--
and the eye roll.
And it was over then.
Everybody was-- I mean, there were men on TikTok saying
where did this guy come from?
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
Look how gorgeous he is.
Nobody can compare to him.
Nobody can beat this.
Don't even try.
So it was crazy.
And it happened quick.
[upbeat electronic music]
♪ ♪
- I actually told my buddy.
And then it started blowing up, blowing up.
And then it just kept happening.
Every video I was posting, right
away I was getting 50,000.
Like, it was sick.
I was like, damn.
- This lip-sync video of "Mandy" went viral.
Here it is. You've got to see it.
- ♪ I never realized how happy you made me ♪
♪ Oh, Mandy ♪
♪ Well you came and you gave without taking ♪
[laughter]
- How did he find "Mandy" to lip sync to?
He's so young.
[upbeat electronic music]
- Then I got a call from IMG, which was like my dream.
Like, IMG models, right?
I was like, oh, let's go.
So I signed with IMG.
- Then we all started pushing videos and dueting his videos.
- When you do a duet, you go to their page
and you look at their videos and you go on the bottom,
it'll say Duet.
So basically it's his original video or that person's
original video, and then you are in a frame here
and you just press Record.
So you're either gonna mimic the same thing they're doing,
or you're gonna do your own thing to their video.
And that's what I did.
You know, I would duet Will.
I would go viral on those videos.
I couldn't tell you how many videos I dueted,
but I dueted a lot.
Will kind of became my algorithm.
One of my videos hit 1.9 million views, which
really put me on the map.
And then I got a lot of women following me.
They loved my videos.
I would go on Twitter and they'd be like,
have you seen Storm's video?
They're hilarious.
So that's how I ran across him.
I just duetted him.
And then I met a great group of women that turned toxic.
If I knew we would be here now, I would
have never, ever dueted him.
I probably would have just moved out of the country.
That's how far I want be away from anything
having to do with Will
- I love you.
[kissing sounds]
- You guys want me to sing?
All right, all right, I'll sing.
♪ How happy you make me, oh, Mandy ♪
[upbeat music]
- After finding Will and having,
like, a sexual reawakening, I found myself putting more
energy and time into myself.
- He got me through my breakup.
- I lost a ton of weight.
I began to experiment with makeup.
It's thousands of women who've experienced this.
♪ ♪
- I saw a post on Twitter from one of Will's fans,
and she was talking about how Whiteyy
Nation had changed her life.
And I figured anyone who's saying that something called
Whiteyy Nation changed their life is probably sitting
on top of a good story.
I think the name is obviously not ideal,
but I don't think it was with any sort
of malice or awareness.
It was just pure excitement about this community
they built.
- The first fandom presence I can think of
was a page on Facebook.
We had the Gucci Gang girls, William's Angels,
the William White Fan Group.
- It was all in the name of William White.
- And then there was the Grotto Girls.
♪ ♪
- The Grotto Girls, or the GGs, they were like
top of the fan club pyramid.
They had the red stripper heel emojis.
They put GGs in all of their Twitter names.
- They became super organized.
There's like a hierarchy of leadership.
- They had like 1,000, 1,200 members at one point in time.
- Getting into the Grotto Girls is actually quite easy.
I clicked Join, and they let me join.
- I applied and was accepted into the Grotto Girls.
The application was a Google form
where I had to list my socials and describe
how I came into the fandom.
- They did collect our names and emails so they
could reach out to all of us.
- To stay in the GGs, you had to stay
engaged in your chat group, always promote positivity.
Don't engage with trolls--
that's a big one.
Be there for the right reasons.
No screenshotting of private conversations.
- We've never had to do anything to get in the group.
I mean, when you're in, you're in.
- We've got Jody from the Grotto.
Nice. OK.
Yeah, guys.
So what is Grotto Girls?
Oh, our nipples are hard.
We're excited.
What the fuck?
- Oh, God.
- Yeah, the GGs promoted the sexy side of Will.
- Yes! Yes!
- The gutter side of him. [laughs]
- The GGs had a more overtly sexual--
loving, kind but sexual--
approach to how they wanted to fan for Will.
And I saw that firsthand once I was in it.
- Certainly a lot of our conversations
were sexual in nature, but there
was never anything graphic about William or other men.
- Oh, that is nice.
Oh, yes.
- [laughs]
- Oh, gosh.
We definitely had a reputation for oversexualizing,
because the group was formed to talk
about the sexy side of Will.
- They were so excited about both expressing their sexuality
and being seen by a younger man.
We so often write women off as they
get older, as sexual beings, and that's not the case at all.
- Will loved it.
Yeah, he was a thirst trapper, too.
- Everybody knows William White is the cougar panty remover.
- The cougar panty remover.
- I look sexy right now.
Straight up.
Loosen up a bit.
I think like a thirst trap is just getting
somebody to love your looks.
I got it ready.
That's it.
OK.
That's what I am.
Like, if you really, really think about it,
it is a little of, like, trying to get
people to thirst over you.
At night, it gets a little more wild with the dancing
and the shirt off, Whiteyy after dark.
And sometimes I lay on my bed and do modeling, but basically
I just, like, look at the camera
and then listen to the music and then
kind of just like mimic.
[sultry music]
I think I can literally just Zoom in, walk in,
do these thirst traps, and older women
are just like, oh, my god, he's so fucking whatever.
That's the special thing about me.
I've known since I was very young,
and I've won every time.
Fuck, you can get Gucci clothes and I'll still steal your girl.
- There's nothing wrong with them having those thoughts,
but they're often infantilizing him at the same time.
There's this pursuit of him sexually combined
with this urge they all seem to have to mother him,
and that perhaps feels a bit perverse.
- You have, like, 1,000 moms and grandmas
that want to fuck you.
♪ ♪
- Well, by the time I joined the GGs, Will
had actually followed me on all social media platforms.
- Probably giving him money.
[laughs]
[intense electronic music]
♪ ♪
- Good morning.
Good morning.
What up, guys?
- William would get up.
For West Coast girls, it was 5:00 a.m.
So I would be up at 5:00 a.m. and watch him on the Live.
Some women will cancel plans, cancel appointments
to watch his Lives.
Like, they don't want to miss a thing.
- I'm trying to think of another good song
here, good song, guys.
[upbeat funky music]
- On TikTok you can live stream.
That means you're live for your followers to communicate
with you by interacting with your chat,
sharing your live stream.
You can receive gifts on there that turn into money.
I popped in his Live one time, gave him a beaver,
and he was like, thank you, Storm.
- It's a gift.
- Oh.
Is a guy--
- I didn't send him my beaver.
[laughs]
[sultry music]
- Warm.
♪ ♪
- Will has received some serious gifts.
The money he was receiving would be considered by most
as life-changing money,
money that you can use to buy a home,
to put your kids through college, to travel the world.
- Sometimes.
I like to give 18.
[laughs]
That's his favorite number.
- I don't want to talk about that.
I said, fuck off on that.
I didn't mean to.
It was meant to be $100, and my keyboard stuck.
And then when I got the notification
that said you sent William James White $1,000,
I was like, fuck.
It was supposed to be $100.
- Yeah.
- We would send gifts in TikTok.
We asked him to put his PayPal in his bio for us to send him
money to help him financially.
[electronic music]
- Fans in the chat were telling me
you should put PayPal in your bio
when they're robbing you, TikTok.
And then that's when I started.
♪ ♪
It went from zero to 60,000 in, like, one night.
Like, I woke up and it was at noon, $60,000.
So when I called my dad, he's like, you
should just quit your job.
I think you should make videos, go live, do your stuff.
So I'm like, yeah, you're right.
Then I'm like, OK, like, how am I gonna maintain this?
[laughs]
What's the next song, guys?
What are you guys thinking?
What are you guys thinking?
[intense electronic music]
♪ ♪
[cash register dinging]
- The first PayPal I ever sent him was $1,000.
- What's up?
Mary, thank you for the PayPal.
Thank you, Nicole, for the PayPal.
Thank you, Robin.
Marion, thank you for the PayPal.
- They started to work out that the more money they throw
at Will, the more likely he was to remember
who they were or take time to shout them out.
- Thank you, Karen, for PayPal and saying
thank you for making us smile.
- I was sending PayPals.
I don't actually know how much.
- How's everyone doing this morning?
Kate, thank you for the PayPal.
- It was kind of addictive thing
to get him to say your name.
- Kate Palmer, thank you for the PayPal.
You're way too generous.
Thank you so much, Kate, for showing your support.
[kissing sound]
- [laughs]
- I've probably given him anywhere from $100,000
to $200,000 of my own money.
- Like, ultimately, they want to get closer to me.
That's just how it is.
Like, I want to get closer to him.
If he's on live, I'll send him a lion
just so he says William White and maybe he sees
me and maybe says something.
So it's like, OK, so now they're
paying to see me kind of.
I just keep showing up.
So it just became a job, and it's almost
impossible to say no to that.
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
- Today's episode is going to be all about nostalgia.
This idea came to me because of a nostalgia
fest that is currently in full effect on the social media
platform TikTok.
OK, so what is prompting this episode on nostalgia?
Do you want me to tell--
- Your thirst for this 21-year-old hunk TikToker?
- [laughs]
I had a podcast called "Genxtemporaneous,"
and with that podcast, I discovered this fandom.
And the Will White fandom really struck me, because it's
small and it was nascent.
It was-- no one knew about it.
I was there on the ground floor,
and I was able to watch it fluoresce naturally.
It started as a one-sided relationship with someone who
doesn't really know you exist.
Then it crosses the boundary to being actually,
in some way, an honest-to-god relationship
where now you that celebrity.
I just cannot look away.
And I try to talk to about people about this in real life
and say, hey, this crazy fandom that's
really culty and everyone kind of looks like, what?
[bell dings]
- What's up, guys?
For new joiners, it's your boy, Whiteyy.
- The boundaries in the fandom between Will and the fans
became quite blurred.
He would go live, and we would help him out,
not just in his big, overall trying to become a star,
but his just day-to-day life.
It was fun.
- Oh, this is nice.
Whiteyy18.
Thank you so much, guys.
Next gift.
Here we go.
I'm on a Live.
And then I'm like, oh, man, I need nail clippers.
And I think I'm gonna go get some nail clippers,
because I do want to be fresh for tomorrow.
10 minutes later, I get a knock on the door, housekeeping.
- Here you go, sir. - Oh, sweet.
- Thank you. - Thank you.
No way.
I don't even have to leave the house.
Guys, that is unreal.
- That's why when I joke and say I want a Lamborghini,
I get a like, just an incy bit like excited and scared
at the same time.
What if they buy it?
Like, I would love it.
But then at the same time, I'm like, no,
don't take me that seriously.
- And he was very good at saying, oh, I like these shoes
or I need some new skis or whatever.
And then those would be sent to him, too.
So it's not just capital investment.
It's in-kind, as well.
- Also, guys, thank you for whoever sent me these shoes.
These are nice long-boarding shoes.
And a black pair, too.
Thank you so much.
- When Will goes live, whether it be with his friends,
his agents, at Boston Pizza or Skylon or the sushi place,
people will call and take care of the bill.
And I know before, we've called--
I think it was--
I don't remember if it was Boston Pizza or Skylon--
and we called to pay the bill and somebody else had already
called and taken care of it.
So he's always very well taken care of.
Anywhere he goes, his dinner's bought.
His drinks are bought.
Gifts are sent-- like anywhere he goes.
[upbeat holiday music]
One Christmas, we had purchased a set of luggage
for him and it was very expensive to ship.
And so it went to a person who lived in the area,
and it was coordinated that she was going to be able to drop
it off at his home.
It was a really warm, respectful drop-off.
An actual GG went to my house today, at my mom's house,
and had like an hour conversation with my mom,
so that was nice.
- There was a request if they could send
a Christmas gift to my place.
We both said yes.
Yeah, that it was OK.
We didn't see the harm in it at the time,
because nobody had been sending to me.
He had done a Live and apparently people
already knew my address.
- William had come on the Live.
He was so excited about the luggage.
Everybody was happy.
- Only pilots have these suitcases--
like, literally only pilots.
So I'm pretty lucky to have that.
- And then the next morning, Will went live and said
boundaries were crossed.
- I just want you guys to know that I don't advise
anyone coming to my house.
It's my privacy, so it's not OK.
- Not a good idea.
I learned that after the fact, so wouldn't do that again.
I don't think that gifts should be coming
to my house for William.
If you're being sexualized,
as a parent, I could say,
no, I don't want that.
But when you have someone who's an adult
and this is part of their platform
or their business in the sense with modeling,
you can't really argue it.
I just want William to be safe.
- Will has never had very firm boundaries.
He has had very, very fuzzy boundaries
right from the start.
And what then happens is Will will cross boundaries and allow
boundaries to be crossed.
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
- There was a lot of people that had gone to Canada.
I mean, obviously, yeah, we'd gone
to Niagara hoping to see Will.
- We were all so happy, just giddy to be in Niagara
and see different locations where Will had made TikToks.
There were 16 of us.
There were GGs and non-GGs.
- We pulled into Tim Hortons for breakfast.
And there was a petrol station next door,
so we just pulled in there.
And yeah, Will's Bronco was in front.
I was a bit like--
a bit like a teenager again, I suppose,
thinking, oh my, god, this is William White, you know?
He came over and said hello.
It was surreal.
We had a photo.
We had a quick five-minute chat and then he went.
- Our last night in Niagara Falls, and we
hadn't run into William anywhere.
We had dinner at Kelsey's.
And he went live and it looked like to us
he was at Boston Pizza.
So we were bummed.
We're like, oh no, we're never gonna see him.
And then a menu flashed, and it was Kelsey's.
We're like, oh, my god.
Our hearts are racing.
I canceled my food order.
I'm like freaking out.
After dinner, William took the time
to say hi, get a hug, a picture
with every single one of us.
It was a really fun, positive experience.
- Come visit me, like, wherever I am.
As long as it's not, like, private, come say hi to me.
I'll come sign your friggin' arm, whatever you need.
Take a picture.
like, just have a good time.
[tense music]
♪ ♪
- Will was invited to this charity event in Florida.
And Will said, hey, you fans can show up if y'all want.
You've got to pay your own tickets.
Some fans did.
- We thought, oh, we'll schedule our girls get-together
in West Palm Beach.
- I was donating to everything and everything,
just trying to like, give back to charities,
fans who donated to charities.
Then I got invited to amfAR.
It was pretty major.
A lot of successful people were there.
It was because my fans donated, like, 150,000
to amfAR for, like, AIDS.
- That amfAR event in Florida became a notorious moment
in the fandom.
[intense electronic music]
♪ ♪
- There's gonna be this big event, and I live in Florida.
So I'm watching him go live, and I'm cooking dinner,
and he starts talking about mental health.
He said, I have severe anxiety.
I can't imagine going to another country.
But you know what?
I want to pursue my dreams.
I'm not gonna let this hold me back.
And that really just kind of like floored me because I'm
like, here's this young guy who's
not gonna let his anxiety hold him
back from pursuing his dreams.
- It's a date. It's a date.
Let's go.
- So all the ladies were like, even if he doesn't come, let's
get together, have a girls' trip, meet each other,
have drinks, have fun.
And if he shows up, that's a bonus.
And so we decided we would get an oceanfront suite.
I could have never imagined in a million years when I joined
TikTok, just as a distraction, in February 2021,
that I would be sitting here in this position
and have gone through all the things that I've gone through.
I would just assume it's a story.
You're talking about someone else, not me.
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
- We had found out where he was staying,
and I walked up to him
and said, I'm Will's Gutter Girl.
He's like, Gutter Girl!
He knew who I was just by the name.
- The other ladies come running
wanting to get pictures.
♪ ♪
He was just very quiet, not at all like his online persona.
- When I saw him in person at the hotel,
I was like, wow, he is as beautiful in person
as he is on a screen.
So it was a lot of fun.
- I had brought a bear he had just released.
He signed my bear.
A bit later, my phone dings, and I looked down,
and he had followed me on Instagram.
[foreboding music]
♪ ♪
- Right now, we're gonna take a little break.
And then, yeah, we'll see you guys later.
- After the gala, one of the girls had messaged him,
and he said that we could come and see him at the hotel.
♪ ♪
- When we get there, he's waiting outside the hotel,
and he's like, let's just stay here.
♪ ♪
So I walk over and I go to the pool.
And I'm like, walking around the pool looking for a chair.
♪ ♪
- What happened from there, I don't
know because when I couldn't find them,
I Ubered back to our condo on the beach.
And so I'm not really sure what happened.
I wasn't even there.
- He starts talking to me and he's like, hey, how's it going?
And he walks to the back door of the hotel,
and he kind of like, opens the door,
turns and looks at me and winks and says, no, let's go inside.
And he does that wink.
My stomach dropped.
And we get on the elevator.
[elevator dings]
So we get up to the room and I'm kind of eyeing the room,
and there's not a lot of furniture.
And I'm just standing there with my bottles of water,
and I kind of turn my back and put the bottles of water down.
[tense music]
♪ ♪
And he comes in and he sits on the bed right behind me.
♪ ♪
And he basically just kind of like, leans back
and does one of these numbers.
And he's like, damn, I've got some hot moms.
♪ ♪
And I was so embarrassed and I started digging through my bag,
pulling out the waters.
I couldn't face him.
I was so nervous and so, like--
I didn't know what to do at this point.
And I hear him walk over to the wall,
and I hear him kick off his shoes, because he still had
on his suit from the event.
♪ ♪
And then I see him out of the corner of his eye,
and he starts taking off his jacket,
and he's walking towards me, and he
has on this white T-shirt under it.
He's really tall, a lot taller than me.
And he was a lot bigger then.
He was really broad-shouldered.
And he just kind of gets right up behind me
and he's like leaning over me and he's like,
so are we gonna do this?
- [laughs]
[tense music]
♪ ♪
- With Disney Mama, I was--
I kind of, like, forget.
My life's been so, like, eventful.
But I do remember being at the hotel, and she came over.
But in my eyes, we were kind of flirting,
like, trying to hang out.
And then she came up, and then I don't remember.
I just remember-- yeah, like making out with her,
going to the bed, and then doing something.
♪ ♪
- I literally was still in shock.
I was like, do what?
And he's just so playful, his personality.
He just jumps on the bed and he pats the bed and he's like,
let's just have a sleepover.
He just kind of leaned up and just started kissing me
and pulled me over on top of him.
He was kissing me, and I was just kind of like in shock.
I was like, wait, is this really happening?
I don't think this is real.
This isn't happening.
And he rolled me over onto my back and at one point
he put his hand like near my throat.
And that's a big trigger for me, because I don't like that.
That kind of scares me.
I put my hand on his chest.
I was like-- I pushed him off.
And I said, we need to stop.
I said-- I was like, this is not a good idea.
He cut me off.
He's like, you think that I'm too young for you.
And he like, stands up and he's like, I'm a man,
and I'm gonna show you.
I'm gonna prove to you that I'm a man.
He's like, I'm not worried about your age.
I'm not worried about anything.
He was definitely into that moment.
It was definitely something he wanted and it was like,
I didn't want to disappoint him.
I wanted to be the fan that gave him whatever
he wanted kind of thing.
And I felt like I was kind of like out
of control of my own ability to rein myself in at that point.
Because I finally, like, agreed.
I was like, OK, you know?
I was sitting on the bed, and he looks back at me,
and he's just like staring at me again.
And that totally floored me.
I was like-- he was taking me in with his eyes, and I
said, what?
What is it?
And he's like, I just can't believe
I have Disney Mama in my bed.
You are so fucking hot.
And that just like--
that was it.
I was like, OK, we're doing this.
[laughs]
- We were having fun.
We were just having fun together.
It was both.
I was probably more excited than she was, you know?
I was like, let's go.
I've got girls coming over, all right?
You know?
It's pretty, like, self-explanatory.
[tense music]
♪ ♪
- I'm not really sure what happened,
but apparently things did happen.
And I received a lot of hate and a lot of drama from that.
People started calling my phone saying, where is Will?
What did you do with Will?
And I was like, I don't know what is going on.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Yeah, it was crazy.
And his mom was upset.
And I said, I don't know what you're talking about.
I am in West Palm Beach at my condo here.
You can come and check if you want.
Well, you were with the girls.
I said I was with them, but I'm not with them now.
♪ ♪
[phone ringing]
- His phone starts ringing.
[phone ringing]
And my phone starts ringing.
And we're just kind of like, oh, my gosh.
And he's like, don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
And I'm like, no, I've got to go.
I've got to go.
I'm like-- I said, William, I think we've been ratted out.
Because there's people always watching him.
I said, I think we've been ratted out.
Someone probably called his agent
and was panicking because I was there,
and they wanted to be the ones there.
And yes, there were fans crawling all over the lobby,
and people were freaking out.
And we were just kind of clueless
as to what was going on.
- All I know is that they found Will,
and then the girls came back to our hotel.
So I was asking them, what happened?
What went wrong?
Where did you guys go?
Why are people calling me?
- I can't tell you how many times she came in there
demanding to know what happened--
how could I do this to her?
I had gotten in a little bit of an argument
with one of the girls because she told
me it was none of my business.
I'm like, it is my business when people are calling me.
- She's very forcefully slamming these barn doors that
separated our living spaces.
And she would fling it open.
You need to tell me what the hell is going on.
I'm gonna call the cops.
And so I said, you know what?
I'm in fear for my safety at this point.
I'd be more than happy to call the police myself.
- So I got an Uber from West Palm Beach to Orlando
and flew home.
♪ ♪
- I caused a bunch of drama.
That's the weird part about it.
Every other fan wants-- like, it's the same thing.
People want to hook up, have fun.
- I went through probably four to five months of hate
coming at me every single day because of that night.
- When everybody found out he was sleeping with Disney Mama--
or slept with Disney Mama--
there was jealousy.
There was anger.
And some were just disgusted.
- It was jealousy.
What has she got that other people didn't?
And yes, Disney Mama got a lot of hate for that.
That's all I've got to say on that.
- I was completely cut out of the fandom.
I knew it would be bad because of the jealousy,
but I never in a million years thought,
because this man invited me over to his hotel
that I would be accused of being the one
that took advantage of him.
I was accused of sexual assault.
I was accused of providing drugs.
I was accused of hiding in a bush outside his hotel waiting
for him.
I was accused of stalking.
[tense music]
♪ ♪
I had no choice but to delete all my social media,
because the other woman who was there
knew what my ex-husband's social media was and reached
out to him and told him where I was, what I was doing,
and he went online and made a huge post before I'd
even made it back home
tagging me, tagging William, saying I
left my husband for him.
People said that I made it all up, that I didn't
have this abusive husband.
I had to go immediately back to the state attorney's office
and file a violation of injunction for my own safety.
- It's all like-- it was drama, like the whole thing.
And even with sleeping with fans,
like, I don't look at it-- it's not like I'm
a teacher or something.
I'm literally just famous and they're loving me and I'm--
like, it's a connection and, like, whatever.
- What drama that was.
Oh, my god.
And then he came back on the next slide
wearing a Disney hoodie.
- Do you guys like this sweater?
I just got it.
- [laughs]
He's wild.
- Did I think Will should be banging fans?
No.
But I think it was more people were jealous because she's
pretty and she's hot.
- I didn't like stick up or whatever.
She got mad.
But then, I'm not sticking up for people.
Like, I'm not a lawyer here.
- She got to fuck Will.
[tense music]
♪ ♪
- What up? What up? What up?
Look who's back.
I'm a little off today, though.
I'm going to be honest.
I'm a little all over the place today.
So I might not be that funny today.
Just some people pissing me off today.
But it's OK.
We're all good.
But it was just--
it's just trying to find that respect thing, you know?
I think there's like expectation of pleasing.
Like, if I was that '80s TikToker,
that was just that boy next door that was being so sweet
to older women and stuff, but one day I
want to play Xbox and be like a normal
24-year-old messing around.
But there's some people that are
literally just like every day, like, why are you mad at me?
And I'm like, yeah, because I'm angry.
Someone just said angry.
Yeah, I'm angry.
So, fuck.
You know, like, I understand you want to tie me to the bed.
I get it.
But don't fucking steal everything from me.
Don't try to drain my-- don't try to kill me.
That's why I'm a-- now I'm fucking a dick.
Like, it's crazy.
And it's because it's so easy for people to dehumanize you.
- I have no real issue with Will,
right up until the point where he started
being abusive to his fans.
- Get the fuck out of here, dude.
Even if it's a fan by mistake, you
say something that's fucking stupid and bullying,
you're getting fucking blocked.
Sometimes it comes across like, mean or something.
But then I'm like, why am I mean?
And then I become rude.
I actually love when you cry. Whaa, whaa, whaa.
- I don't think he owes them anything.
But I do think sometimes their influence over his life
can be unsettling.
And the outcry from some of these women, the pressure they
put on him, the way they responded and almost lashed out
at him, it was like an angry girlfriend being
broken up with by a boyfriend.
- I'll say the worst things when I'm mad, you know?
Just anything that comes to mind
that's just gonna hurt someone, just because I feel attacked.
Oh, my god, dude.
Some people are so weird. Yo, calm down.
Yo, Debbie, you can go make a new account.
How about that?
How about that, Debbie, telling me to calm
down with zero followers?
You can do whatever the fuck you want.
I don't want any responsibility like that.
It's just ridiculous.
How is this guy still popular when he's calling women names
and assholes and saying that he doesn't
need his fans and all of that?
He was talking out of both sides of his mouth.
- Storm with the ice cream cones.
I've never seen fucking one good thing
come out of your mouth.
- I told him, you need to stop bullying
and attacking other women.
You're not taking a stand on your platform.
- Fucking weirdos.
- When you sit back on a social media platform and you are
verified, why would you sit back and call your fans [bleep]
and bitches and assholes and shit stains, and they're paying
all your bills?
And why, as women, would you OK that behavior?
- You guys can do whatever you want.
Your fans helped you.
Are you kidding?
How did my fans help me?
I'm more scared of the drama on social than, like,
serious, in-person situations.
- I don't regret telling him that he's a liar.
- If someone comes to your door, you've got to run,
or whatever you have to do, you do.
- I don't regret telling him that he
doesn't deserve his platform.
- But in social media, it's all up in the air forever.
- You're not seeing what they're
doing behind the scenes, behind your back,
behind fake accounts.
I think he needs to be held accountable for what he said.
- I couldn't trust anyone at this point.
I need to fight for my life.
[bell ding]
[tense music]
Twitter fingers, they act so perfect.
But they know deep down, they're not.
So at the end of the day, you've got to fight back.
That's what I have to do every day now.
Do I want to do this?
No, but, like, if you don't, you'll never feel comfortable.
- If I called you a [bleep], it's because you deserved it.
♪ ♪
- I think you could say it got pretty intense.
- Like, honestly, be careful who you talk bad about.
- You weren't really sure who to trust.
How did it become such an unsafe space
for the people who just want to be there for each other
and be there for Will?
- I said no coming to my house, and then I'm
telling a story about someone coming to my house.
- Some women cannot handle it.
- It's like that obsession that scares me.
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