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Hello, everyone. Today is September 17th, and this is a second session of
YCAP Trading Practical Course.
I thought we had a really good start last week, so let's just keep up this
intensity. We're going to do a lot of stuff today, so I'm not going to spend a
lot of time on administrative stuff. The only thing that I want to mention is
thank you for sending the files in the correct way.
one file, all of the charts in there, and that's usually the PDF or power
charting file.
So those work very nicely, and thank you for putting the name of the class into
the title right away. It's being sorted out for me, and then it's just easier
for me to go through those. I did look at all of the homeworks that were sent,
and just tremendous job.
There is a big difference between this class and the Monday class in the way
people analyze.
So you guys obviously are much more advanced and, you know, knowing all of
concepts, so it shows in your analysis.
For the announcements, WMD promotion for those of you who are not attending the
Wednesday class, you don't even have to attend.
You know, you could just, you know, watch the recording whenever you want.
We're going to do three sessions for $30 for those of you who are new
subscribers on September 25th, October 2nd, and 9th. Check this out.
October special, I'm extremely excited.
Together with John Colucci, we're going to talk about scanning, scanning for
Wyckoff candidates, but in such a way that we would be looking for specific
structural spots.
So this is the next step in the evolution of the selection process.
So we definitely are going to bring a lot of examples.
John is going to show a lot of his scans. I'm going to be talking about
characteristics of the spots that we are looking for. Together we will post
-analyze the results of the candidates that we receive.
I highly recommend, especially at this level, at your level, you should be
extremely interested in something like this.
Today's session, we're going to finish the conversation that we started in
WTC on the significant bar analysis.
That's kind of like the main theoretical emphasis today.
I don't recall exactly to which point we've talked about this.
I think it was at the very rudimentary level, so we have to come back and we
can't really move forward without this knowledge.
But we're going to start with something else. We're going to start with an array
of things.
The first thing that we're going to do is one of our students who
has been with us for years and years, friends, he has
decided, and let me see, let me...
find friends. Okay.
Hold on a second.
There you go.
So he had decided to start publishing a blog on Wyckoff Analytics.
And by the way, and especially again for this group, if some of you are
interested, maybe a writing piece expressing yourself on the knowledge of
Wyckoff or what you're going through in your trading and you really have to read
Francis' blog because he goes through his trades, analyzes mistakes, and we
all of us to do that, exactly that. So at least when you read his blog, what
happens, at least to me, is I would say, okay, I remember I made this mistake,
the same mistake.
So what was kind of like the cause of that mistake?
And as you read Francis' blog, you are going through that analysis yourself.
So in a way, you're encompassing some of the, you know, better practices in
those type of situations.
So we're going to have the market update from him.
Then we're going to come back to our articles on outliers and mundanity
of excellence. We'll quickly talk about that.
We'll check out our bias game.
We'll jump into the anatomy of a trade. There is a development right there.
There is one question that we need to address, and then we will review the
significant bar analysis.
If we are lucky, we'll get to the exercise.
All right. Well, Franz, are you there?
I'm here.
Okay, great. Welcome.
How are you doing?
I'm doing fine, Roman. How are you this evening?
I'm doing well.
I guess it's afternoon in California.
Yes, it's 3 p .m. So before we go into your material, which I thought was
very interesting, could you... Tell our students here maybe a little bit
about your blog in your own words.
Sure.
Well, first of all, I got introduced to the Wyckoff Method
through a chat room that I participate in back in
2016. And kind of following the thread, I ended up.
at Wyckoff Analytics in the end of 2017.
And then I ended up taking just a little background myself. I ended up taking
the trading course, the trading practicum, and I participate regularly
WMD.
So that's a little bit of.
Bring up the speed on my involvement. And one of the things that's cool about
WMD is that Ramon and Bruce started off by saying, welcome, Wyckoff Nation,
which is what we all are. We're all trying to learn this this particular
process.
And I'm, you know, I'm moving up the learning curve, but I'm just like
else. I'm still a student.
My blog, I decided.
about six months ago that I really needed to put a trading plan together.
And some of that was, I should say more than some, but a lot of that was from
Roman's prompting.
So in the process of doing that, looking at, you know,
you're doing your back testing, looking at historical trades that you've done
and analyzing them.
And I found all sorts of mistakes that I was making. So I thought, well, you
know, why don't I?
really hold myself accountable to, you know, trying to not make so many
by actually, you know, airing them out, putting it out for everybody to see and
going through the analysis myself.
And hopefully that will cause me to not make the same mistakes as many times in
the future. I'm sure I'll continue to make, you know, we all do. But at any
rate, that's a little bit of the background on the blog, Ramon.
Okay. Well, great.
And such a great example, friends, of what you do.
And in the way, I like really the way how you do this. You are helping
by writing this, but you're also helping others, which is so wonderful.
I kind of see the teaching the same way. So I'm helping myself to get better.
But at the same time, you know, I'm giving back to the community. So it's
great to see.
Okay.
So let's go to your presentation, and as usual, everything is for educational
purposes. Stop the video. Read the disclaimer.
Franz, I don't know. We didn't really communicate on this. Would you like a
screen, or I have all of your slides here.
What would you like to do?
Why don't we just try putting them up, and I'll tell you kind of what the
different. that I'm trying to put across here.
Obviously, these are the three major laws that we operate under.
And backing up just one step in putting this trading plan that I've been working
on together, the first thing that we do is analyze the overall market.
And obviously, we use the same techniques and tools to do that.
Looking at a kind of a shortcut to try to analyze the law of supply and demand
as it applies to the market, I came across an indicator that I'm sure other
people are familiar with called the Chaykin money flow.
And looking at that, I should, again, back up one step. I
do an analysis each week of a whole lot of different ways of just looking at the
overall market.
And it's about 90 right now. And again, this is for educational purposes. But
from my read of things, it's about 98 percent bullish.
Just about everything that I look at.
But there's one little fly in the ointment, and that is the law of supply
demand. And it goes completely.
I know I follow Bruce Fraser. I'm sure many of you other other White Coff
participants do as well.
And just Friday, his.
power charting episode was talking about how PNF
charting right now substantiates the bull case.
So what I am just saying, there's just a little fly in the ointment as I see it,
and it's being generated by this Chaykin money flow indicator.
So if you can go to the next slide.
What is the shaken money flow indicator?
Well, shaken money flow combines price and volume to show how money may be
flowing into or out of a stock or the market.
It's an alternative to the accumulation distribution line. And then it goes
through how it's calculated. And just very quickly and simplistically, all it
does is it looks at the last 20 periods and it looks at where.
On each of those bars for the last 20 periods, the market closes.
And if it closes at the top of the bar, it gets a plus one.
If it closes at the bottom of the bar, it gets a minus one. And if it closes in
the middle of the bar, it gets a zero.
Then what it does is it takes that reading and multiplies it times the
volume.
For that particular day, for that particular bar, that period, it could be
doesn't have to be a day. It could be in my case. I'm looking at months,
actually.
But it looks at that and then it multiplies those two and takes the last
20 readings and sums them.
And then every period forward, it drops the last one off and adds the next one.
So hopefully that makes sense. But basically it's just looking at how
price interact in a very simplistic way to
define whether there is a lot of demand or whether there's supply or
whether we're somewhere in the middle.
Does that make sense, Ramon?
Yeah, absolutely.
Okay. So next slide.
which is actually this is the Wilshire 5000.
And when I look at the market, rather than, you know, looking at individual
indicators, excuse me, individual indexes, the first thing I like to look
just what the overall market's doing. And the Wilshire 5000, it says 500
that's a mistype, should be the Wilshire 5000, is pretty much the entire broad
stock market.
So this looks at the last 20 years of the Wilshire 5000, which is just a great
way to get perspective on what the U .S. I know there are other people besides U
.S. people involved here, but this is the U .S. market for the last 20 years.
And, you know, we talk about consolidations and trading ranges and we
trends. And I think I pretty well identified starting in the year 2000.
at the kind of the tech bubble top there, that was an obvious distribution.
There was a redistribution on the way down. So both of those are circled or
circled, rectangular in red there.
Then in 2003, we had an accumulation.
I was reviewing one of the teaching sessions talking about vertical
And if you look at these, particularly the bottom here in 2003 and the bottom
2009, this is a little bit of an aside, but you can really see vertical
absorption coming off the bottom. So that's kind of an interesting thing to
alert to if we do get another bear market.
at some point in the future, which I'm sure we will. So following the 2003
accumulation,
we get two periods of
reaccumulation and with trending
periods in between, which then top out in 2008.
And I'm going to come back to the.
Shaken above in a second, but I just want to kind of walk through this whole
history. Then we get another major downtrend, which ends
in 2009.
And here we see another accumulation and major league vertical absorption coming
out of that.
That's just a very powerful.
Once it started to move, it didn't give people a whole lot of time to get on.
Up until 2010, we had a reaccumulation, another
reaccumulation, went to 2015 -16, another reaccumulation. These are all
associated with events, but it's more just, you know, the market goes from a
trending to a non -trending environment, and now most recently we're in this.
consolidation period that started in early 2018, which is the last one.
Okay, so now let's go across at the top and look at the behavior
of the shaken money flow at these different accumulation and distribution
periods. And if you can start over there, pretty much line up with that
2000 up there at the top.
And notice as the consolidation period move forward, notice what's
happening to money flow.
It's gradually, you know, supply is diminishing. You've still
got supply. You've still got, anytime you're above the zero line, you've got
positive flows, but it's definitely on a downtrend there.
And to me, that's just a real simple, easy way of visualizing supply and
Once we hit that second distribution area, the redistribution,
you can see that money flow actually went negative.
And then, very interestingly, in the 2003 period,
if you'll notice, As we moved through
the distribution and into the accumulation in
2003, if you'll just put your pointer there and line it up with the highs
in that accumulation period, so just late 2003, and
notice where, and then coming out, and notice what money flow is doing.
So we're making suddenly we're making a higher high at each of these higher
highs in the price bar.
So just a very simple relationship. And it's the same thing. That's right. Just
going across.
Anytime you've got a.
Reaccumulation.
From the beginning to the end, you've actually got pretty much invariably,
you've got a higher level of shake and money flow at the end than you do at the
beginning.
So once you get into the 2008 distribution, it's the opposite.
At the peak, you've got high money flow.
And as you progress through.
supply is diminishing and the cumulative money flow is coming
down. So by the time you're exiting the distribution period, you're definitely
in a significant downtrend in money flow, just as prices as well.
So pretty much follow this all the way across, and I won't go through each
distribution, but I think it's interesting.
If you go to the very last now, the current distribution period, or excuse
reaccumulation period, and notice what money flow is doing now. As we came
into this in early 2018, money flow is very,
very strong. It's making a peak.
But we make a higher high.
And look what money flow is doing.
And again, and now we're trying to make another higher high. And once more, so
this, like I said, this is the one fly in the ointment that I'm seeing.
And supply and demand is, you know, is really one of the probably the most
important of the three rules. And to me, even though there's still a significant
amount of.
money flow available, it's heading in the wrong direction for this kind of,
for this point in a reaccumulation.
So that's kind of the long -term picture. Then I kind of zoomed in. So if
to the next chart,
now we're looking at weekly, and
we're just looking at the 2018.
So we're looking at that last reaccumulation period.
And you can almost break this down into two.
Roman has talked in the past about how sometimes the market goes through kind
a rolling, different rolling stages where you start off looking like you
be in one kind of bias, and that bias might change as
the
Consolidation continues.
So notice there at the beginning, notice what money flow is doing.
Very high.
And then notice the higher high that we made last October and notice what money
flow is doing.
Yeah. And very soon thereafter, you know, the bottom fell out.
So now we get this rally coming, you know, from December.
of last year into the high, and money flow is doing what you'd expect it to
But then we're making another higher high back in July, and now look.
So, again, something doesn't smell just exactly right to me about
this market. And if you go down and look at the actual volume bars down below,
Yeah, exactly.
Very, very high.
You know, is this what's going on here? So go to the next slide and there's my
question.
And what I've done in this next slide is I've just taken the period from last
December, from the low last December into this year and
kind of tried to overlay maybe some phase analysis on it.
The way it looks to me, the way I'm seeing it is, you know, we've kind of
it through phase A and we're now in phase B. But here's what,
at least by my interpretation, here's what volume is doing and here's what
flow is doing. And maybe this will right itself. Maybe it'll correct itself.
But. This is what I'm seeing right now. And it's like I say, all my other, my
moving averages, my momentum, my sentiment indicators, everything is
except for supply and demand.
And it's basically just supply and demand as I'm reading it from this check
money flow indicator.
But like I said, something doesn't exactly smell right.
So, Roman, you're welcome to shoot holes in my theory, but that's what I'm
seeing.
All right.
Questions. All right.
And then, you know, Franz, first of all, are you done?
Yes. Yes? Okay, great.
So let's go through the questions, comments, guys, first, and then I'll
a little bit of my take on this as well.
Question from Simon.
Should volume be directly proportional to money flow?
For example, high volume should have a higher volume money flow area.
So as the – let me kind of like translate this a little bit.
So, Simon, as the volume signature increases, you're asking should the
flow area also increase, so like this area right here. Is that the question?
Yes.
So, Franz?
Well, if you think about the way – the money flow indicator is calculated,
it's based on where does the market close on each of those
bars. So here we're looking at weekly bars.
So let's say that first week in August, let's say the bar closed right in the
middle, although it didn't. Maybe we could say it closed towards the bottom.
let's say it closed right in the middle. Well, that would give, remember, the
range. for the indicator for each bar is from plus one to minus one.
So a close in the middle would be a zero.
That then is multiplied times the actual amount of volume.
So you could get a reading, even with very high volume, you could get a
for that period of zero. Now, in this case, you've obviously got a close
probably in the bottom, what, eight?
Point eight of the bar or something like that. I can't tell exactly.
But but you've got a reading towards the low of the bar and a very high
volume spike. So how is that going to affect the last 20 days? Well, it's
to you know, it's going to have a, you know, more than insignificant impact on
the overall indicator.
That makes sense.
So volume is important, but it's.
It's the multiplier of that volume, which is from where the price bar
I hope that helps to answer that question. I hope it makes sense.
Okay, and Simon is saying understood. Thank you.
All right, so it seems like no more questions.
So I would approach this, and usually when I look at Chaikin, oh, there is one
here. Actually, okay.
I think, okay, Michael is right and to the point that I want to make.
From Rami, should the point marked as selling climax in the chart be marked as
the buying climax?
So I think that I know the answer, but Franz, please go ahead.
Yes, I'm sorry.
Sometimes I type a little bit quicker than I'm thinking.
Oh, I see. So this was just a title?
Yeah, that should be a piece.
Because I thought that maybe, Rami, you were referring to, I know that Anna
Kulin in her book actually labels climactic actions the opposite the way
we do it.
And her explanation is that the composite operator, the institutional
is selling into the excitement of weak hands on the climactic run, so therefore
this is a selling climax by institutions.
Which I kind of, and actually not kind of, which I disagree because there
are so many things here that could be discussed.
Climactic action, in this case, buying, not selling, that's what's
happening. So we are having a climax of...
buy -in wave, not a sell -in wave.
So that's my kind of like primary argument there. All right. And really
thing that defines that is the change of character that occurs between May and
June.
Like you say, it's not a big volume signature.
So here is my take on Chaikin in the way how...
I kind of look at that. And I'll see if maybe we could include this into the
November special.
So November special is going to be all about momentum and volume.
Those are the two things that actually precede relative strength.
So some of my recent trades are...
more about that, where I'm trying to get pre -momentum and pre -relative
strength. Why? Well, because there is a lot of premium that we are not getting
if we are too late to the party, so to say.
So maybe Chaikin could be discussed there as well, because as I look at
indicator and we're going through all of these points.
What I'm thinking here about is effort and the result.
And I'm looking at how there is an expansion of liquidity in one direction,
expansion of liquidity in another direction, and then what the price is
And I'm thinking like with this expansion, what are we doing in terms of
price? And I keep comparing it. And I think this is the
pretty useful way of using an indicator like this because basically the
indicator is showing effort whereas the price is showing the result.
So we have that effort result relationship that we could use in our
So for instance, you know, for instance, I'm just kind of like showing what I'm
seeing.
There is a move to the downside here.
So supply is increasing by that picture, right, and demand is going down.
Am I correct?
The way I'm interpreting it is that
supply is increasing and demand is going down. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, okay. So we have more selling than buying.
Right, so on a very simplistic level, if this is happening
and the price is making a higher high and a higher low,
to me that kind of says that there is a pressure to the downside that is
increasing over demand, but yet the result to the downside is somewhat
So I'm kind of interpreting this as a bullish scenario.
So that is kind of thought number one.
The second thought that I had when I was looking at this latest reading on
the indicator, we had somewhat, I don't know, maybe a somewhat similar situation
right here where it's going down. So, again, supply is increasing, demand is
decreasing.
And we are actually making multiple higher highs
on the divergence with that indicator. So kind of reminiscent
of what we're having right now.
We're having higher highs, higher lows, higher highs, higher lows, and then kind
of the same is happening.
And then obviously we see what happens after that. That's like this big
speculative wave that we have in 2017.
So I wonder what if we are seeing kind of like an
interim rotation at this juncture that leads
the indicator to look like this.
But because of the result of what we see,
You know, it might basically suggest that we might actually have a rally.
So that's just maybe a slightly different take on how to interpret this.
have any thoughts on this front?
Well, the only I guess the 2007 the 2017
period was.
We're definitely in an uptrend. And I guess you could make the same case,
though. You could say that potentially we're in an uptrend here, yeah. Well, we
are in an uptrend, right? So higher highs, higher lows.
And if we've actually broken that. And I just, Franz, hold on a second. I think
this is a very important point.
Are we in the uptrend, guys, or are we not in the uptrend? In the intermediate
timeframe, we are in the uptrend of the significant low.
we've been going up.
In the more longer term picture, we're still in the consolidation right here.
I just want to make this point in front.
Totally agree.
Okay, so, well, let's observe how it's going to unfold.
So I would pay attention to this type of scenarios where, and actually would
kind of like explore this a little bit more.
right here as We were doing this also another valuable thing is
what I do with a lot of the indicators is I look at a big
sample of history here and Every time I see that this indicator basically
showing also the forces the momentum So what I'm seeing here in 2009 10 and 11
And this is what we will be talking about in December session. So maybe this
where I could use the syndicate to show the institutional buying.
So this whole wave right here into 2011 was an institutional
momentum buying of the market that lost so much value.
They brought up the market back into the area where they had it before.
And then after that, we want to look at the somewhat what I call is
sustainability of the trend.
Could we sustain this trend to continue or longer?
So the money flow is actually very valuable here because every time we have
kind of cyclical low, we want to check on does momentum emerge?
Is there a force behind the next point where... sustainability is at
question so this flow was you know questioning that sustainability of the
and then momentum comes so we know we are confirming that the long -term trend
is still sustainable and then another momentum drive here and then
we see even through this area right here that momentum is increasing and then
going into 2015 this is where both price is stolen And then momentum is starting
to go down. So this is where we could anticipate a more meaningful reaction,
probably on par with what we had in 11 and 10.
With the same analysis here, we could see the momentum coming back into the
market, and they are still buying, a lot of buying.
And then this momentum goes down.
goes down, and this is where we could have anticipated this reaction.
And then what happens?
This latest rally has that institutional momentum and flow of money.
So, and we are probably, I'm just thinking out loud here, friends.
This is a slow momentum, but we're not giving up, you know, these positions.
So maybe slightly reminds me a little bit of this situation.
Maybe somewhere also here.
Kind of like waiting, waiting.
Momentum definitely is down. The flow is down.
It's an indecision point, but the price does not go lower.
So that's what's catching my eye on this thing.
And then we could just double check because we have so many price cycles
Look at how they're buying value first.
We've talked about this in WTC, and I brought this material to you guys last
week. Then momentum buy, this whole thing.
Then they're just doing nothing. While they are doing nothing, the market is
just very lackluster.
And then another wave of buying, and then sustain that trend until
we have this deterioration, and then this is the downtrend.
I'll show you a little bit more during the December special.
This is going to be interesting just because we're going to talk about long
-term campaigns and how we swing trade around those.
So very exciting material.
But, Franz, this is really great. I would like you to bring this back to us
some point, maybe like in a month or two.
Would that be okay?
Sure. for us just to see and to develop this material a little bit more. I
definitely see a lot of value, and it's just been a great presentation.
So let's just explore more on this material.
Very good. And thanks for your analysis, Roman.
Absolutely. It's something that I see, and I don't totally know how to
it.
Getting more eyes, especially here.
Listen,
I am, again, I'm just showing what I'm seeing and how I'm interpreting, but it
doesn't mean that I'm correct.
So that's why I want you to come back with this material so that we would see
what's going to happen.
And we would post -analyze this.
In December, I think that we could explore this more, and I can show some
tools here with this as well.
So thank you so much, Franz.
Thank you. And let's just jump to the next segment.
Let me see if there was a comment here.
Okay. I think that we're done with this. All right. Great.
All right, guys.
Now let's talk about the homework. I ask you to read two articles, Outliers and
the Mundanity of Excellence.
Please say yes, and there is no punishment if you have not read this. So
say yes if you've read it, if you read those pieces.
Okay, okay, great, yes.
People are saying yes. So really quickly, just one volunteer, and, you
we'll go through this like in five minutes. I'm just going to ask you a
of questions.
Just say yes, and I'll unmute you.
Anyone?
Okay, let's go with Rick.
Hi, Rick. How are you doing?
Hello. Yeah. How are you doing?
Hello. I'm doing good. Yeah, I can hear you. Well, Rick, I want to quickly ask
you some questions about your trading and your education around trading.
So I'm going to just keep asking you questions and just approximate the
that you think that you might be.
spending on all of these activities so for instance i would like to ask you how
much time do you spend on our classes in at wyckoff analytics so let's say one
class per week maybe two classes per week some homework how many hours per
do you usually spend on education
oh six hours
six hours this is a really good number of hours to spend, because I'm thinking
each day, at least an hour, slightly less.
So if you would do this consistently, you know, for years and years and years,
oh my gosh, you know, this is going to be a really good strive to get to a
really good place. Okay. Well, what about a weekly selection process?
So you're looking for your candidates, you're looking at the market, you're
analyzing the charts.
How many hours does this take?
15.
15 hours.
Wow, that's a lot.
Okay, next thing.
Any other activities that you would do,
maybe like reading a book about trading?
Yes, reading books.
I'm sorry?
Yes, definitely books.
Okay. Definitely books.
Books, okay. So books, how many hours do we spend per week on that?
Three hours. Three hours. Okay, great.
Okay, so anything else trading -related that actually develops your skill or
increases your knowledge? Not looking at the screen, but maybe looking at the
screen and analyzing. I would be imagining that this is either under
or selection. But anything else that we're missing here?
Yeah, I would probably say two hours on the trade journal.
Awesome.
Trade in journal.
Yes.
How long have you been doing this routine, Rick?
For how long?
I'm finishing up my third year.
Third year.
Excellent. Okay, so.
What do we do here?
We want to, you know, this article about outliers, this is from the book from
Malcolm Gladwell, talks about the 10 ,000 hours that it usually takes to
master a skill, master a craft, or at least
to become masterful.
at something to a certain level.
And we are taking this as a basis and as an idea that we do need to practice. So
sometimes I have people, you know, when I talk about practicing trading, meaning
practicing analysis, practicing execution on charts, going through the
and then going through the post analysis, they are saying that this is
meaningful because during actual trading emotions are going to be swaying you in
different directions.
Completely disagree.
I would rather be swayed emotionally with an array of analytical tools that I
feel comfortable with and at least be confident in my analysis rather than,
you know, to be swayed in my emotions when I don't have the knowledge and I
don't have the system and I don't have the skill.
So we need to practice.
The question is how to practice, and obviously, you know, this latest term,
deliberate practice, you know, and I wanted to bring you a couple of other
articles that I read just recently on that, and I probably will.
The way how we practice is very important. So what I'm seeing here from
that there is a routine for three years where There is a devotion to the craft,
the devotion to advancement, progress, and so on and so forth. So let's
calculate this really quickly.
We have 26 hours.
That's per week.
Two weeks of vacation, right, maybe?
Per year?
Sure. So this brings us to 1 ,300 hours per year.
And times three, that's 3 ,900 hours
that Rick has spent on trading education that
would have a meaningful impact on
the way how Rick trades or how the analysis or selection is happening.
Was it helpful to be in this routine, by the way, Rick?
for this three years. What has happened qualitatively?
Did your trading improve?
Yes,
my trading has improved.
Three years ago, I got laid off from the oil industry.
I had been studying and reading for probably 20 years prior to that
with the goal that when I retired, I was going to trade.
So I got started a little earlier than I anticipated.
And so I've got a trading
plan.
system and I'm just diligent and
during this education of course I came across the Wyckoff
method and Wyckoff analytics and man I couldn't be more excited
so it has definitely paid off that's great Rick such a
great way of building a systematic approach to your
trading, to the knowledge that you receive. So just very commendable. Thank
so much for sharing this with us.
Okay, so.
Sure, thank you.
Okay, absolutely, Rick.
Thank you. I'm going to mute you now.
So this is obviously.
One of the best examples that we could hear from our community, from students,
on the practices that you guys are using for your
preparation for trading, Rick is doing just a tremendous job right here. This
is awesome. I don't have so much time to devote to my own
education. I would love to have more time just for R &D.
But what is important here is that this type of education, once you establish
this routine, has to go through years and years and years.
That's point number one. The second point is the way, you know, how it
happening. So it has to be very deliberate. And I think that the
know, when we were creating it back then, you know, five years ago, and I
talking to my staff,
Our conversations were about skill building, skill development.
And obviously, you know, I'm a little bit obsessive. I'm kind of realizing
about myself, you know, obsessive with the details on the chart and so on and
forth. So it becomes a little bit more of exploration into the,
you know, well, where is the truth? You know, what do we actually see? That's
why, you know, with France, I want to see what's going to happen.
I want to see how should we be interpreting this type of structural
So we have to be extremely deliberate in our practice. If you don't have a
chance... to log in as many hours as, let's say, Rick is logging in here, and
you're working 9 to 5, you have to find the way to have at least an hour or
two or three per week, maybe put somewhere throughout the whole week,
you're doing specific processes. For instance, the process of selection.
You have to go through this, you know, on a weekly basis.
How do you get to your candidates?
The process of education.
What do you identify as your blind spots?
And how do you actively go after about acquiring the knowledge, asking me or
someone else, looking for that blind spot and answer to that blind spot in
literature somewhere, publications and so on and so forth.
And then.
uh maybe the third hour devoted to um just studies studies of the market
of the charts and if you could have those three things uh lined up for each
and you just consistently do this over and over with the very deliberate
practice so methodically slowly um understanding you know and exploring
a lot of the points there
then definitely the improvement will come.
All right, so that's our point here.
I always love to give the whole class the intention of how we're going to do
things in this classroom.
It's going to be slow, but it's going to be very deliberate.
And with that, let's jump to the next module.
We had the second assignment, which was the bias game.
All right, so let's look at this, and I'm going to go quickly here, and then
going to give you the assignment for next week for the bias game.
So we are going into the trading range from the uptrend. It looks like demand
very stable, supply is occasional.
There is not a lot of big reactions that are happening on the way up.
This was the largest.
and we are anticipating maybe with this supply that maybe soon we're going to
have more supply as the price goes higher supply indeed is increasing and
we know that somebody is selling into the strength of the trend um and
then obviously here on the change of character we're seeing that supply is
culminating meaning that supply is in synchronicity with the result, or
the increasing effort is in synchronicity with the result, and we're
largest reaction, which means that we are going to go into a trading range.
here we are in this trading range. And it's just such a great
concept.
a change of character. I was just teaching it yesterday to the new WTC
And it just, every time I teach this or I talk about change of character, it's
so elegant and simplistic in its concept.
And it just gives you so many different ideas and points about what the
structure is going to be.
It basically gives you an idea for an untrading environment.
That's number one.
Secondly, right away, it identifies two important points for us, buying climax
and automatic reaction or automatic rally if we are in accumulation.
And those define areas of resistance and support.
So we know exactly where the price is going to spend the majority of the time.
And we could expect that the price is just going to consolidate.
It's going to have some rallies.
It's going to have some reactions.
There might be an increase in volatility, decrease in volatility.
And through all of those actions, we need to define what the bias is.
We usually start with the bias being the same as on the previous trend.
So this means that
Out of the uptrend, we are expecting a continuation and a reaccumulation.
Our first task is just to see what kind of level of supply is coming in on the
change of character itself in Phase A.
Is this a distributional supply, or is this just rotational supply?
Usually, distributional supply would have the characteristics of expansion,
that expansion would be quite different than what we've seen before. And I don't
see this necessarily here.
I see that there is a slight increase of the supply, but it's not as much as
what we're seeing, you know, in the area where there is some selling into the
strength.
I also don't see, and this is the second thing that we would be judging a change
of character or the presence of the supply for the distributional
characteristics or rotational characteristics.
How does the price react to that supply?
Does the reaction break the previous support?
As we go down, would the spread drastically increase? Would we have
How would the price react around the stopping point? Would the price react
quickly out of that point, or would it just stay there and produce just more
limited rally?
And with all of those elements, it feels that... a change of character still
suggests that we are in the reaccumulation.
And we are probably going through some kind of rotational pattern here in this
particular stock.
So some of the hands are giving up their position, and this is probably a value
or contrarian investor.
And then someone else is picking up this position, and because there is enough
liquidity in other institutions,
anticipating that maybe there's going to be another growth opportunity out of
this trading range.
So that exchange of shares, rotational exchange of
shares between institutions should not produce a lot of movement to the
downside. Because it's when the price moves to the downside, that's when we
that there is selling.
There is selling.
Here we're seeing selling and then the price stabilized and stays kind of like
in the same range.
So what happens next?
What's the next Wyckoff story here?
Well, once they bought in into this and rotated, so sellers, those institutional
sellers sold and they became inactive.
And the institutional buyers,
acquired the position, accumulated the position, and they became inactive.
So therefore, when the two major participants have become inactive, what
we expect?
We would expect that the volume would go down. It did.
And then with that diminished volume characteristic, what is the price doing?
It's actually going up.
So that tells me that even though they are inactive, the price chooses to go up
and not down.
It means that supply has been observed in this area right here.
And that's the major kind of premise here for this rally.
We're calling this a week.
just because weak hands participate in this rally.
It's not that they are producing this rally.
The composite operator, these two institutional types that rotated the
between themselves, they are producing this rally by being inactive, but weak
hands are just participating.
We see the climactic end to that rally, suggesting that supply has come.
And we're thinking that probably this is just, you know, professional mean
reversion trade that is being produced.
But then when we see that this happens, that suggests that this initial
supply had some kind of institutional signature as well.
So they sold into the high.
And we need to start thinking, is our
bias changing.
This is what France was alluding to, you know, when I'm talking, guys, about
different, you know, and I was kind of like hoping to hear the phrase textures.
Look at the texture of the uptrend.
Look at the texture of the next rally.
Somewhat similar, slight differences, if you can, you know, if your eye could
catch that, there is
a little bit more volatility the way how the price moves, but yet it doesn't
progress a lot to the upside, suggesting some kind of resistance.
Then supply comes in, and here we're thinking, would there be
a change of bias to the downside?
That's the question that we are gonna address after we see the emergence of
supply.
Well, the price definitely goes down, supply emerges, and this is the highest
supply, so we're instantly thinking, are we in the bearish bias?
Okay, well, the answer to this question is in the result.
What is the downward result that we see and that we have?
Have we committed below the support?
No.
Have we closed in the lower part of the spread?
No.
Have we had only signs of supply and no demand?
No.
And it seems that there is some demand that came in and they bought
in into the lows, into the value.
So they saw this as a value, and it seems that this institutional buying
of the volume signature, because how high it is, is somewhat reminiscent of
we had somewhere here, where we have a lot of buying even on the way down. So
all of this is buying, buying, buying, buying, buying,
buying again.
Then this is a sell.
Then they are heavy buyers again, right here. This is the value zone, so they
want to buy in the value zone.
We could see that further down here, here,
all of this buying in support of the prices being in the
value zone.
Because it didn't close below the support level, that's what tells us that
still a reaccumulation. And now they have bought here and they have
bought here.
So by this point, supply should start being exhausted.
And we should see the confirmation of this exhaustion in two things.
In the structure,
we should be seeing higher highs, higher lows, or at least higher lows.
And then in the volume or effort, we should see that supply is going down.
Well, we definitely see that supply is diminishing.
And then we see that, yes, indeed, we have higher lows throughout, not just
one, two, three.
We don't have a higher high, but we are in the apex formation, and apex
formation does not supposed to have a higher high until a breakout.
So with all of that and with the lower volatility in this area right here,
thinking that the bias here is up.
Now, what I want you guys to do with this exercise, and it's very important,
please, for your records, I want you to count how
many exercises, bias exercises we went through and how many of them you guessed
correctly and how many of them you guessed incorrectly.
And then we'll talk about those numbers as well. We did this with the previous
cycle.
And it was really helpful for students and myself as well, you know, from
teaching perspective, you know, to see, you know, where we're going with this.
There's going to be some struggle here when you're going to look at the
And I want you to go through this struggle.
The key is just to let yourself know where you are.
This is a really great measurement, this bias game, on the knowledge that you
have.
on the price and volume relationship.
So it basically very quickly shows you your blind spots.
So please use this exercise to improve.
All right, and here we have McDonald's and I
think this is the last bar that we had here.
You guys can go to our Twitter. This has been tweeted last week. So as you've
noticed, I'm giving you the exercises that are coming up next week
or this week, rather, as a bias
exercise. I think that's how it's going to work.
All right. So please feel free to read the whole Wyckoff story and to go
this analysis.
at your own time and this is the next chart that i want you to go through
so as usual print it
out analyze it and then just send me uh your chart
with the bias and with the explanations all right great where are we with time
four o 'clock okay awesome let's look at the anatomy of the trade Yeah, so there
is a big development here, ACB, Aurora Cannabis.
When we started our class a week ago, we were somewhere here.
And since then, there was an earnings report.
I believe it was last Wednesday, I think, last Wednesday
or, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was Wednesday, yeah. So this is Thursday, and this is Wednesday. So we
right here.
Yes, okay.
So the trade just did not work out, and I kind of closed the probe.
I still have other positions in cannabis industry, so one of my positions that
actually is working right now is in canopy growth.
I know that... A lot of you are following a lot of fundamental news on
stocks and the group in general.
This is not the group that is showing relative strength by any means, and I
a lot of comments from you guys on that.
So it's great that you're noticing this, yet we are looking for a different
trade. We are looking for the trade that...
we are not going to pick up somewhere here in the middle of the range.
I was looking for the trade to pick up somewhere at the bottom of the range of
the long -term formation for a campaign.
So from that perspective, let's quickly go through the analysis of this anyway,
because it's important to understand the logic of even this entry and just to
post -analyze this. And I want you to be very critical of my trade here.
So if you have any suggestions or comments, please feel free to write them
and I'll possibly respond to them.
Okay, so as we are having a very speculative run here, a very quick
distribution, and please note how short this distribution is.
There is an urgency to distribute.
So they are distributing into the climactic run.
then sell -in, and that produces small reaction, then sell -in produces larger
reaction, then sell -in again into the up -thrust and sell -in again to the
downside. So this is the most volatile period that we see after the uptrend,
and then after that, they are done.
We see this texture change right away in the volume signature and in the price
as well.
So what does it tell us?
The speculators that were present on the way up, they sold,
and I'm talking about institutional
speculators, they sold in this area right here.
And because they were the sizable position players, then look at how the
of the spread is changed.
All of the attempts to go up, those are just hopes of weak hands market
participants that after a big speculative run that they might not
have anticipated and did not participate in, they are picking up some value
here. And they are being pulled in on all of these reversals and short
-term continuation momentum.
There is some selling that we could see from the volume signature, and it's just
institutions, so pros are shortening to the rallies.
Then suddenly a big pickup, so something is going on, so that attracts our
attention. But at the same time, obviously, volatility shows still some
problems. That volatility acts the same way.
Look at how texture repeats itself.
a lot of volatility in this area, and then slowly down.
A lot of volatility first, and then slowly down.
So you always want to invest when, or get
into the position when volatility diminishes.
Because when volatility diminishes after such a strong volatility,
to the downside, that suggests that we are done with selling.
So we just need some kind of confirmation of the possible reversal
possible rally, right? So what would be that confirmation out of that diminished
volatility? So here is a diminished volatility, and here is diminished
volatility.
Okay, well, here is our first momentum rally.
And this is what we want to look for as the rally starts. We want to get on
this rally as soon as possible.
So here is that rally again.
We will have a second chance here to enter here, here, here, and then to have
least another rally.
So most recent reaction.
has somewhat of the same but slightly different characteristics. We have a
laborious move to the downside.
So from some supply that came in at the top,
we are definitely diminishing supply signature and volume signature in
And then this is what got me in. So the beginning of the rally. So the beginning
of the rally.
And that's what kind of attracted my attention
throughout the whole group, not just in the Aurora, but actually the whole group
kind of looked the same.
A question here from Mitri.
Why enter right before earnings?
This is a great question, and it's also a great comment in terms of the trade.
Was thinking, Dmitry, that anticipating a better result on earnings or
at least a better result in terms of how the analysis worked out going
into that earnings report.
So seeing that there is not a lot of selling, anticipating that maybe there's
going to be a more favorable reaction before earnings and we're going to have
some kind of gap like we had a gap right here.
So that was the thought.
And it just happened in the opposite way. So the only thing that I had to do
for this specific position just to get out of the position. And I'm still
thinking that we're probably going into this area, and I wonder what's going to
happen here. Because I see that in our cannabis stocks, there is an attempt to
accumulate.
Maybe a false start, could be, but definitely the goal was to come in
closer to the low, not on the momentum itself, and not
to be late, especially if we want to leverage this position.
Okay, so what else?
Okay, another question, actually a couple. When analyzing the tape, if you
an earnings report but you see a valid point of entry, is it part of the
methodology to enter and take a chance with earnings?
Yes, a good question. So here is my rule, Dmitry, on that.
If we are in the reaccumulation,
In general, I would definitely would take the position if I'm identifying,
let's say, potential phase C here.
And this is a much more higher probability.
Let's say if the earnings event is somewhere here going into phase D, then
there is a much higher probability that there's going to be a more favorable
reaction to earnings.
If we are in the...
And this is really, you know, this move is done.
And if we're thinking that this is reaccumulation, this probably looks more
a full accumulation because new participants are coming, you know, into
market in this area right here.
So it's being accumulated in its own way.
So here my preference would be, you know, to be more cautious.
about earnings because there is definitely more structural
problems in this type of accumulation than in the reaccumulation.
So therefore, the answer to your question is what does methodology kind
requires? Yeah, that was exactly what I said.
And then I'm just not fully following the plan here in hopes that it's going
actually gap up on earnings.
Would an option trade be more appropriate before an announcement?
It actually, Ramy, was an option trade.
Probably you are months early from Rick. Yes.
So that's exactly what happened. So as I'm post -analyzing a lot of my
trades this year, I'm noticing, and even from last year as well, I'm a little
bit early.
And the reason why I think is because I'm seeing changes of behavior.
So, for instance, this is a change of behavior because initially here we have
the highest volume signature.
Obviously, this is a lot of selling here, but we don't see that type of
signature anywhere else. So there is more institutional participation at this
point in this company.
So they have, and they are not necessarily.
getting out as the price is going down, unless this was just a speculative
run right there, which we could say that it definitely was.
So yeah, so sometimes I'm a little bit early, but that's fine because I'm
usually establishing a probe which is just about 20 basis points of my regular
position.
So it really is not a huge loss to me, especially if I'm taking it much, much
faster than where the stop loss actually is. So that's how
it just happened this way and
nothing kind of like that we can do about this.
All right.
What else?
Okay, how do you determine options, expiration and strike?
So I'm thinking about the duration of the potential move.
So I look at the history of how quickly moves could happen, and therefore
I'm projecting, you know, somewhat of a scenario where I'm saying that if this
type of move would happen, what is kind of like the duration that I could
expect? so i'm thinking about the duration of the uptrend and then based
this is going to be my expiration and then the same way only vertically i'm
thinking about where the uh the price would go
And from here, if I'm thinking that it's going to go to around $12, maybe like
as a sign of strength or an upthrust type of rally. And both are actually
for this trade.
I wouldn't care to have an upthrust rally either.
Why wouldn't I, right? So usually those are extremely fast.
So if I'm thinking that my target is $12, I probably would be accumulating
options between $7 .50 and $9 .50.
I want my options to be somewhat slightly far away, but yet have some
run into the money into my target.
So that's usually my direction of play on options.
All right, with this, this trade is done. So what's exciting about this is
that I want to play a much deeper game with you guys.
Because WMD and WTC, those are specialty classes. And I can't do this
for one reason or another.
But with you, I can. And we're going to experiment here. So I want you, within
the next five minutes, to choose the stock that we would have bought today at
the close.
And then we are going to follow it as a group. And I want you as a group to vote
on that stock.
So why don't you just right away tell me your candidates and we'll analyze
those and we'll make some kind of decision or it will become a homework.
So what do you guys think? What kind of stocks are you looking at?
Anybody? Any symbols?
Anything that we can look at?
Gold, okay, yes, an interesting candidate.
So what kind of trade? Let's just determine what kind of trade we are
for, right? So we are looking for the trade that would last our whole
We are not looking for the trade that would last a
week or two, right? So obviously ACB did not last long.
but hopefully something else so okay one candidate gold so we can vote on that
second candidate polter group
so that's in the home construction i think a very sound selection here
all right
technology prospector interesting well this is uh kind of like more
maybe even uh speculative because this is an ipo okay what else guys let
me let me write it down all of that
sun power
had a reversal today
Looks good.
Yes.
Also interesting.
And in the interesting sector.
Okay.
And okay.
Spotify.
Oh, no, not Spotify. Yeah, Spotify.
Okay.
Yeah, very interesting.
This is kind of like, maybe it's just the challenge of it, you know, that just
attracts me to these candidates lately.
It's just to figure out where is that phase C? And Mitri here is saying
possible phase C happening now.
Yeah.
very interesting okay i think this is enough so we have one two three four
six okay one more from from larry okay so target
all right great so um
let's see
what candidates do we have we have gold
we have home construction we have
ipo software
we have solar power
hats
spotify and target
okay
So I'm going to assume, guys, that we look at those and we are thinking that
would be entering this position at the close to date.
That would be our analysis.
So we need to pick something.
So why don't we just vote? And by the way, I'm going to give you just one
maybe. So as you look at my screen, you know, pull out another screen.
and just look at all of the stocks, and then just write one time which stock
you would like to play. And then I'm just going to calculate, you know, which
stock repeats more often.
Please do not submit the stock that you've submitted before, right? So let's
for something else.
So I'm going to give you one minute. Please do this exercise.
So go through all of them. Look at the charts.
and write down the stock that you would like us to follow this semester, at
least as the next stock.
All right, guys, I'm back. Let's see what we're coming up with.
Okay.
Maybe one more answer. Maybe two more answers.
Okay.
Okay, so it seems that we are leaning towards
sun power.
This is the most voted symbol.
Okay.
let's do some power all right guys so for the next week uh as the homework
let's analyze some power let me quickly
show you okay so this is where
we are um with sun power really good uh move up so we would
think that we have opened the position right here on this bar.
So please do your analysis, long -term, short -term, tactical analysis,
what to expect, where the stop loss should be.
And then next week, we're gonna follow with this trade just for the sake of it
so that we would know.
Let's vote on the stop loss.
because this is very important as well where do you guys think that our stop
loss should be and i let me just determine the
points here okay one two three
maybe four we're extremely conservative
which level do you think our stop loss should be
Okay, below 11, point number two, below 11, point number four, okay.
Michael, I wonder what you think.
Where the stop loss should be if we're entering at this point right here.
Three, okay.
Okay, so two.
under the last low okay all right sounds good this is the trade we are in uh
please analyze send me your charts and we'll discuss it next week okay great
another segment is done awesome okay let's go to a q a we have just one
here from simon so simon uh is talking about the last week assignment
and he says predicting volume was just In this exercise
where you did use the volume information based on price information, would it be
fair to say that the assumption when performing this task is that
like a flow of effort and the result is complied to that there is
synchronicity between price and volume?
Yes.
So this is one of the
main concepts that we are studying in this class with our
analysis of the price and the volume.
We are looking either for the synchronicity or we are looking for some
kind of divergence in the price volume behavior.
If it's true, then is it reasonable that when you disclose the solution slide
that there could be a misalignment where price and volume are not in
synchronicity because price and volume will not always exhibit synchronicity?
Yes, so sometimes there would be a divergence. So where these diversions
be found on this particular chart that we looked at last time.
Okay, so we would be looking for...
disharmony or divergences where let's say effort is increasing and the result
not following the effort.
Okay, so where could we find this?
For instance, on this attempt to go down, we have an increase in downward
to push the price down and yet the price does not commit below the level of the
support, quickly recovers.
And the same happens on the next reaction, increase in effort and
the result.
So that's a disharmony.
And when we think about what has happened here, the way how we translated
price into the volume signature, because in both cases we said there's going to
be an increase in the volume.
Well, why do we say this? Because we see the increase in spread to the downside.
we see increase in spread to the upside so there is a lot of volatility
suggesting that both selling and buying active selling and buying is happening
in this area the same happens on the next rally and that suggests that the
volume spike is going to be in place at this spot and right away we understand
that with the increase of both selling and buying
Volume will increase, meaning that the effort is going to increase as well, on
both sides, by the way, not just to the downside.
And by the result, we judge what kind of effort we could possibly have at that
spot.
There could be some other, maybe less evident points of where the same
law of effort versus result will play in.
So, for instance, on the upside, we could note that
maybe an upthrust like this would have an increased
effort, which is local, not necessarily a huge volume spike, but still higher
than what we've seen before.
And then that does not produce a big result over the previous
resistance.
Something like this, maybe.
Not this, like this.
This is definitely more climactic, so we would be expecting some volume
signature here. So a lot of effort to try to push up, and yet does not go
higher.
Something like this, with a more local increase in the volume signature.
Something like this where short term we are expecting that there's going to be
an increase in the volume signature.
So effort goes up and the result is not really that much. It's just a
low that touches the trend line.
And then at any of the spots where you have like... small increases in volume
signature, something like this, and then there is stop in action. That would be
your effort versus result.
Okay, great.
The second question was about action and test.
So action and test as a concept could be interpreted in so many ways in the
Wyckoff methodology.
For instance, you could be thinking about action as the price goes up on
one bar, and then the next a bar is going to be the test of that action so
have had the bar where the demand has increased and the price has followed we
are expecting that the test is going to be a continuation of that move of that
momentum and if that test fails then there is something wrong with
with the whole picture and we would be expecting a reaction here.
We could also think about action and test in terms of the swings.
We could have a swing as an action and then a reaction as a test.
And we would be looking at the characteristics of high lows.
This is a structural characteristic of lowering supply signature. This is an
effort characteristic in order for us to make a judgment about the test.
So the test here is successful.
We have a reversal as a confirmation of that test, and therefore we are
expecting a rally.
The rally comes as an action, and it just doesn't have
the same type of momentum behind, and there is only temporary
commitment. So we could think that if this is action, what is the
test? Well, the test is such that it shows that there was increased
and yet the test to this flow right here shows a favorable scenario.
We also could be thinking about phases in the range, and we would be thinking
that phase C, for instance, we
could be saying that in phase A,
volatility was slightly increasing, but not as much as in phase B.
So if phase B is an action on volatility,
then phase C is that test.
If phase C is an action in terms of volatility and how it unfolded, then
phase D could be a test.
There could be also some local tests in phase C, right? So action test
is a concept that you could apply probably to
anything that you could think of when you're comparing one thing over another.
You could also think about, let's say, a volume signature that suggests some
bind, and then the subsequent decrease of that volume signature on the reaction
that follows.
One is an action, another one is a test.
So there are quite a few ways of how we could use the action
and test concept in our analysis.
So just use it.
predominantly with the bar -by -bar analysis.
Use it predominantly with the swing analysis.
I would concentrate on that.
But understand that you could definitely use it in so many other ways.
All right, great. So we are at 20 to 5.
Excellent. Now let's talk about our theoretical material today.
For those of you who were students in the most recent InHammer,
series of the WTC, we have not talked about the significant bars in extension.
So this is why we're coming to this material.
Practicum is becoming also the class where I'm teaching as well.
So each class there's going to be some kind of material, either new material or
something that we're going to repeat, and maybe there's a new twist that I
to talk about. Today we're going to talk about points of entry and exit, and
specifically significant bar concept.
Significant bar concept is a confirmation of the swing reversal.
We want to understand if phase C ends, that it ends with the reversal.
If phase D backing up action ends, we want to find that reversal and so on and
so forth.
So let's look at this.
Theoretical representation of where exactly we would be coming in into the
position and getting out. So let's go through this step
by step. In the accumulation,
we would be seeking to enter.
initially in phase c and then phase d and early e
these are the areas of where we would want to get in into the position
it allows us to get in into the position at four spots
So instantly, I'm thinking, when I'm thinking about four spots, I'm thinking
that, for instance, if I'm in an institution and my total risk is 1 % of
portfolio, then I'm probably going to divide that into a probe position,
which is going to be 25 basis points.
And then position number, so this would be one. Position number two.
Another 25 basis points.
And this is going to be my sign of strength rally.
Number three, another 25 basis points. And number four, another 25 basis points
on the backing up action.
And the total of that would be that 1 %
for total risk.
Okay, so...
Where are those points of the entry?
Well, we want to start probing after what we think is phase C, right?
So the price temporarily commits.
And before that, we could look at the characteristics of how the reaction is
going down. And that's why cannabis stocks are somewhat appealing in the way
they came down.
And then we want to have a local confirmation.
where we have some kind of retest of the previous flow.
And on the reversal of that test, this is where we want to go in.
So we want to see some kind of reversal bar with the close committing above
the previous bars, above the highs of those bars, and this is gonna be our
position.
If it doesn't work, We are only down 25 basis points.
Not a big deal.
But if we are correct, then we want to increase our size.
And the next opportunity for us, once the price breaks out of a local
intermediate high, is going to be on the sign of strength bar.
Why are those sign of strength bar so favorable for us to enter the position?
It's because...
There is a lot of momentum and therefore a lot of institutional buying that
happens on those bars.
And with that, they are pushing the price up and the close is such that
is far away from the low or the open for that bar.
So if we move the stop loss, towards the law of that bar, it shouldn't be
touched.
Institutions have bought through this price, and if the price would start
down, they probably would buy more.
Because if they are buying like this with 25 basis points or kind of
building their positions, they wouldn't mind the price to go down on the idea
that they like.
So therefore, if the price goes down, they start buying again that supports
price and pushes the price up that's how it works on the way up so we would open
second position here and then we would wait and the reason why we would wait
after we've acquired your second trench in at one half of the trading range is
that we're actually going into the area that is not favorable for
opening the position
unless we have the confirmation of the availability of the supply at
the back -and -up action.
So in other words, we need to experience another test at the higher level before
we have the conviction to increase our position size.
Plus, if we're opening on the way up, we know that the back -and -up action
structurally will expose us to the short -term weakness on the reaction.
And in a lot of cases, we're going to be nervous.
Emotionally, we're not going to be there because the price is going to go down.
And some of us are going to close those positions, and definitely we don't want
that.
So wait for the sign of strength to happen. You're already in these two
trenches.
Once the backing up action is being confirmed, and imagine if it's not, then
price goes down and you're down 50 basis points and not your whole risk that you
would usually put.
But once the backing up action is confirmed, add on the reversal of the
up action.
And then after that, add on the breakout out of that backing up action.
We've discussed a lot that breakout.
It's not favorable, again, for us to open the position on the breakout
of a sign of strength rally.
Why is that?
Well, because sign of strength rally by itself creates an
overbought condition.
Overbought condition attracts mean reversion traders, and they sell
that condition in anticipation that the price will come back
to the mean or even to the support level.
And also what happens in the overbought condition is institutional types
are taking profits.
These two groups would produce a temporary change of character of the
action that automatically suggests an increase of the supply and also an
increase of the reaction.
Therefore, our stop loss could be in jeopardy if we're opening the positions
away here or especially after the resistance.
There are nuances to when we could actually open on the sign of strength
breakout.
Those are usually gonna be situations where volatility has been exhausted
into phase C to such point that we anticipate a quick acceleration.
A really good example of this is the movement of the gold lately, since
the actually late of last year.
Okay, so what's next? How do we actually put the stop losses?
So our original probe position will have the stop loss just below this spring.
We could be aggressive with our second point of entry because if this is a true
sign of strength bar, the price should continue going up and we shouldn't
encounter any resistance.
But my preference is usually to be conservative when I'm establishing the
position. and then to be aggressive when I'm trying to get out of the position,
and that is with the stop loss.
So I would just still keep the stop loss in the original place, and then when we
have a sign of strength, I would probably move it and put it closer to
in the middle of the range, slightly below.
I want to allow the backing up action reaction not to take me out.
out of my position because I want to build the position.
Okay, well, once we have this reversal confirmation, we have a couple of
choices. We could put the stop loss for that trench number three right below,
and let's say that our first two trenches could have maybe like a
profitable position for us based on the stop loss.
That's scenario number one. The second scenario is just moving all of the stop
losses right away.
My preference, again, would be to be more conservative. We don't know how the
backing up action is going to develop.
Would it have a spring?
Maybe a shakeout? Maybe a deep LPS in phase D?
So all of those possibilities would probably keep my stop loss still
slightly below one -half of the trading range.
I don't mind that because I'm here for the whole run.
I don't want to be shaken out at the beginning of the move.
But once we have the breakout out of the
backing up action, the backing up trading range, that's when I would be
aggressive with the stop loss and I would move it right below the backup.
Why? Well, because the price committed to the upside and now...
You know, we're expecting a continuation of the move.
And then every time the price creates the high and that high is being violated
with the price movement on the upside, that's a timing signal for us
to move the stop loss.
And we would be thinking of moving the stop loss, like I've said, two support
levels away.
And it makes a lot of sense that it's two support levels away, because in a
of cases, we might have something like this, where we have maybe a reaction
that is being followed by
subsequent reaction that could take us out,
and then the price is going to continue its movement in the previous direction.
So what we want to see is we want to give the price and the trend some room
to grow and to have the short -term volatility,
especially in the backing -up action here where still supply is present.
But every time there is a commitment to the upside, that's when we're going to
move the stop -loss, and we're going to move it.
two supports level away, and going into
the end of the campaign, our points of exit are gonna be
the definition of the buy -in climax, some elements of the climactic action.
And sometimes it's really hard to find those because sometimes the volume
signature is actually not gonna be climactic.
especially in stocks.
So what do we do with that?
Well, we need to look at the price action.
So in the instances where we see that the price spread is
increasing, where there are some gaps happening, we could assume that this
momentum indicates the excitement by weak hands, and that leads into the
conclusion of the climactic run.
If we don't see even that and what's happening is that demand is diminishing
and therefore we see a slowing of the momentum, that type of kind of buying
climax, like a rolling over buying climax, then here we would be relying
on trend line analysis and we would be looking at some overbought condition or
with the slowing of the momentum sometimes we have the conditions that
price does not reach an overbought condition, so showing that failure.
And that's just different type of buying climaxes that we can experience.
I'll be talking more in extension in this cycle of the W2C about that. Once I
have that material, I'm gonna bring this to your attention, guys.
And here, After the buying climax, let's say that we are getting rid of our
first trench.
25 basis points is gone, and we are thinking, okay, well, we're seeing some
elements of the distribution, maybe a high volume signature suggesting that
supply is coming in. We got out.
Then we're seeing that the next selling produces a change of character bar.
Usually that bar is going to be a big downspread bar on a high -volume
signature, and we're still relatively close to the top.
So this is actually quite an efficient place to get rid of some of your
if you're finishing your campaign.
The reason why it's efficient is because you don't have to wait to close out
that position throughout the volatility of the whole trading range.
If you're really confident about your read on the climactic action and on the
subsequent change of character bar, then I would say go for it.
But if you're late, then your next possible exit is going to be after the
automatic reaction.
The tendency and the mistake in the exit is usually such that we are exiting on
the way down.
And that's the mistake.
We are eliminating a lot of the unrealized games that we sweated out on
up.
We want to wait for the price to rebound.
And the price usually would rebound here. Why would it rebound?
Think about weekends.
What's their sentiment at this low? What are they thinking?
They are thinking that they did not participate.
in the previous run, so they feel regret.
And then automatic reaction gives them a point of value.
As an example, imagine minus 10 % on the stock or
even more that they wanted to play for a long time.
So now they see that value, so they're going to come in, and they're going to
apply this, and that's what's going to produce that rally.
So we know that after the first reaction, there's always going to be a
So we don't have to stress about not selling at the same price.
The exception to that is going to be your hypodermic formation, where you
basically don't have this opportunity.
there is a lot of aggression in selling on the way down because there is an
urgency to sell.
And this urgency to sell is going to be quick selling, very aggressive.
And then also from the same family of the distribution, a TP formation.
That is not going to have the first initial good.
The second one will be better.
But in terms of the efficiency of where you exit in the price, it would be still
better to exit on the change of character bar or into the selling by
the contrarian investor into some supply, emergence of the supply.
Well, let's imagine that we were accurate and we actually got rid of our
trenches, and we're still keeping one just to see, you know, what the bias is
going to be.
We were somewhat excited on this upthrust rally, and then it just failed.
And whenever it fails, this is probably the last point of conviction that you
should have, where you're going to say that, okay, I'm done.
This pattern has failed. There was an attempt to go up and commit above the
resistance. as a continuation of the trend, and it didn't happen. It failed,
I'm out.
Okay, well, let's quickly look at the example.
We've used this in the WTC course, for those of you who have taken this
previously, not in the last cycle.
So look at the original range.
This was in 2008, 2009.
So right away, think about the market context at the time. The market was
down, yet the price of the stock was almost horizontal, slightly downsloping.
We had our points of entry exactly where we've discussed on our schematic.
First, after the spring on the test, on the sign of strength before the next
resistance point.
on the reversal of the backing up action and on the breakout of the backing up
action. Our first campaign could have been closed out by the same rules that
we've outlined on the schematic that we had on the previous slide.
We want to identify climactic action.
Okay, well, here is a bar that has that climactic characteristics.
We probably could even miss this one.
and we probably would be thinking that the next bar, as a change of character
bar, and look at the size of this bar.
Compare it to all of the down bars that we have on the way up.
Probably this one would be in line, but that's basically it. Everything else is
much smaller, so it looks like after the momentum run,
This is a change of character bar.
So at least a change of character bar gives us a very clear indication of
we could potentially exit the trade if we are done with this timeframe.
If we are long -term investors, we still would be keeping this.
The reaction to the downside as in today's bias game was not as pronounced.
It did not break the previous level of the support and suggested that even in
phase A, we are thinking that this is the reaccumulation.
For the long -term investor, that's a very valuable tool. Again, I don't want
you to underlook the change of characteristics
that would suggest a potential bias.
And that's how we're looking at that.
Okay, well, the next rally that goes up with the higher highs suggests that this
bias is confirmed.
The next higher low, confirmed.
The next higher high, confirmed.
The next higher low, confirmation again, and so on and so forth.
Absorption, momentum, and then the last speculation.
And as we got rid of our position, you know, the next...
as a reaccumulation element, we will be thinking about finding a phase C,
reversal in phase C, sign of strength bar
where we could add to the position, reversal of the backing up action, and
breakout of the backing up action. A little bit kind of condensed here with
all of the bars, but hopefully you guys could see this, that I'm picking up the
reversal bar on the backing up action that is a test
to the action point that has a lot of supply.
So we needed to have the test to this action.
Okay, and then if we're long -term investors, we would be thinking about
Again, a very simplistic identification of the climactic action, which was this
bar. Why this bar? Well, because any other previous up bars were not that
impressive after the momentum bar. So this looks like the end of the move and
has this big, quick movement to the upside. So climactic action, that's exit
number one. Second exit on the next bar, change of character.
when we look at all of the down bars since where we open the position let's
somewhere here this is a definitive change of character and then
after that we would be selling here after the secondary test rally
and then the last exit is going to be on this bar so let me just do
this one two three four And we are done.
Okay, so that's an example. A question here from Mitri. Why did you not enter
gap significant bar in the reaccumulation?
Which one?
You have four entries in the reaccumulation by zone. Yes.
One, two, three, and four.
This one right here?
Oh, I see. Yes.
Yeah, this is a good point.
It could have been an entry.
yeah absolutely the only problem here with the gap is i'm thinking that this
probably some earnings so we're anticipating some supply coming in after
especially a bar like this so we still want to have more testing you know to
this action with the supply so that just more
context to their supply emerging all right great
Where are we?
503. Okay, let's talk now about significant bar.
We want to understand how we could manage the trade and how we could
stay with the trend. So therefore, we want to develop trend following tools
will allow us to stay in the trend for the duration of the majority of the
trend. I remember...
When Ed Secorda came to Golden Gate University for one of the classes and he
talking about trend analysis, he said that his goal is to take between 50 % to
80 % of the trend and to be consistent about that.
And if you can do that over a long period of time,
then you're going to be extremely successful.
And you're going to have a very high perfectibility if you're repeating this
over and over again. So we want to take these portions,
something like this,
of these trends.
And we want to go through the trend and not get out.
with all of the reactions that the trend has.
So we want to find the tool that will keep us in this position and yet would
define also the dominant theme
by the institutions.
Are they sellers or are they buyers? Because if they're sellers, we're going
see that in the price action. If they're buyers, we're going to see that in the
price action.
So what is a significant bar? Significant bar is a big bar.
It's the bar that has an expanding spread.
It's also a bar that indicates the direction of the current bias.
And we would see this by the location of the close.
Usually a bullish close or a bullish significant bar would have a close above
one half of the spread.
And then the bearish significant bar would have
a close below one half of the spread.
Also, the significant bar will have an element of the result not
only in the close, but where the close is happening relative to the
most recent support and resistance levels.
So for instance, we could see here that our initial swing is
to the upside.
A big significant bar shows the commitment to the upside.
We are assuming that there is an uptrend and
it only will be reversed in our eyes when this bar is
being reversed.
So we need to see some kind of close below the low of this bar.
So we define the low.
And then we're looking for that bar that's going to commit to the downside
the close.
And it's right here.
And usually the close, the last 30 minutes, is all institutional, where
rebalancing their portfolios, rebalancing the ETFs.
where they're committing, you know, for the positions for the next day.
And even though, you know, Gary Fullett always says that the close is
not as important right now, I probably would disagree with this.
By the way, for those of you who are WMD subscribers, Gary is going to be a
guest tomorrow on the WMD show.
So definitely check him out. He's going to have the first 20 minutes unless he
has something else.
Coming back to the significant bar, here is the commitment that we have below
the low of the last commitment to the upside that is significant.
And then after that, what we are basically saying here is that there is a
reversal, a confirmation that the upswing is done.
the last bar that had the significant commitment to the upside has been
reversed, and now the swing has changed from up to down.
And this means that we could even open the position here. Imagine that we are
opening the position here, and we would be thinking, well, where is our stop
loss? Would be naturally above the high. That's number one.
That's a conservative stop loss. And then secondly, above the high of the
commitment bar.
Because if there is a commitment to the downside at this point, shouldn't the
price never reverse here if we're expecting a downswing?
So it shouldn't go through the level which should be defined either by the
of that down spread bar or...
by the previous close if we have a gap to the downside.
So imagine that we have a stop loss here and we've entered the position at the
close, kind of like what we've done with the sun power.
So then how would we move the stop loss and how would we protect the profits
that are being accumulated?
Well, we want to see some kind of up bar that is gonna be a significant bar
closing above the commitment level that was defined by the high of
the of the down bar where we entered and it seems like there is an
attempt to do exactly that here is this green bar it's a significant bar it has
a big spread the close is above one half of the range but
there is one thing missing from this significant bar, and that is the
above a significant level.
So it's almost like as if the effort is increasing, but the result is
decreasing.
That's what that bar is showing us.
So that is still in line with the downtrend that was identified by the
entry bar.
And then on the next bar, which is significant as well, We see that there
attempt to commit to the downside, and this is where we know that institutions
are continuing to sell, and we should just move the stop loss above that bar
and wait for the continuation of the downtrend, which comes next after
a short period of a consolidation where the stop loss would not be moved at all.
It's until the next commitment to the downside.
where the close commits below multiple, multiple lows,
that we would be thinking about moving the stop loss,
so we would move the stop loss somewhere here.
Then next significant bar, stop loss here.
Then next significant bar, stop loss here.
The next attempt to go, or not attempt, commitment to the downside and
Significant bar, and here is our commitment level.
And then on this bar right here, we see that there was a commitment above
this thought loss level.
So our trait is gonna be this.
Point of entry, point of exit.
And please note, we are probably taking what? We're probably taking 50 % of the
move about.
And this is a downtrend.
Let's see what we can take in the uptrend. And the rules are going to be
same. We're still looking for the bar that has reversed the last significant
to the downside.
We had that condition.
Now we are...
Looking at the stop loss, it's either going to be conservatively here under
low or more aggressively under the significant bar itself.
And then we're looking for the next commitment on the significant bar.
This looks like more semi -significant, but this one is definitely a significant
bar, so we would move the stop loss here.
Next bar, or a series of bars, we can combine some of the bars together,
and we would just move the stop loss like this.
Next two bars that are committing to the upside.
This is an interesting bar because it has a gap, so the true range of this bar
will be the difference between the high and the close of the previous bar.
with that this is a very big significant bar so we would move the stop loss
there then there is a series of non -significant bars and then a huge
significant bar that we probably would divide into half and we would move the
stop loss first below the low and then below the one half
next significant bar and next significant bar and this is the bar
we would get out
this is our exit so here's our trade
please note that
we bought about seven at about seventy dollars we sold
at about 210 dollars
times three and these are i
believe
month monthly yes monthly so this is one two
three four about four years so
you are making times three in about four years this is this is a
somewhat of a good speed to make money and um you can see
how
the significant bar helps us in two ways.
First, it shows us where reversal happens, that's number one.
And secondly, it also acts as a trend following tool because it allows us to
move the stop loss and it also allows us to exit.
And that's basically the whole idea behind the significant bar.
Okay, well, we still have some time, so we have like about 15 minutes.
Let's go through the exercise, and I will need a volunteer.
And here was this exercise. What we want to do is we want to talk about where we
would possibly start thinking about the entry into this talk and how would we
use our significant bar.
definitions to stay within the trend.
Okay, so let's go to Dmitry.
Hi, Dmitry. How are you doing?
Hey, can you hear me?
Yeah.
Cool. All right. So this looks like a very long -term campaign.
and the original range out of the IPO price has been formed between
$15 and about maybe $7.
So let's look into this range, and I want you to give us your perspective as
where potentially you would be seeing a good point of entry for us.
I wouldn't be too excited about the first automatic reaction.
Just because it's an IPO and there isn't much data on it yet.
But on the second test in June, July, I would probably start looking there
personally. Okay.
In terms of an S -bar popping out at me,
I'm going to look at – I like the one right on August with
the volume.
I do see a little supply tail, but it seems to be the
biggest spread to the upside in that current rally. I like the volume. It
shows some interest.
Well, even if we have a supply tail, I mean, look at the close.
It didn't really close below one half of the spread, right? So we know that
there is a supply present.
It probably could be related to this action right here. Actually, throughout
this whole level, we see that some selling is happening, even on the IPO
So there is an expectation that we're going to have some kind of resistance.
It's what happens next that's interesting, because if we're expecting
supply is going to come, in all of the cases, we go down, we go down. Here,
we're just horizontal.
So we are anticipating supply to come, and we want to see
what kind of test to the emergence of the supply we're going to have as an
action, emergence of the supply.
And so we could, when we look at this bar, it
could add both as a point of entry and also as a...
short -term climactic action and we could anticipate some kind of reaction.
So would you be entering right on this bar right here or somewhere else?
If I was buying just stock and not options, I probably would consider an
there. Now, given what you said, reminding me about the climactic action
high volume definitely makes me think twice. But if I was to be honest with
Yeah, I probably would consider a pro position.
Absolutely. Okay, so now where our stop loss would be?
I would place, this is my personal risk tolerance, I would place one half stop
loss at the low of that bar and another, the second half stop loss on the
bottom of the mid -June, yes, right there.
Okay. I think this is a good, solid strategy.
Next question.
When is the next time when you would move the stop loss?
Right at the end of October, I see
some demand coming in.
I would have to look closer.
I would probably move the second one -half stop loss, the bottom stop loss,
make that – after that bar at the end of November, I would move my full stop
loss to the first one where it is. Okay. So the bottom of the August bar.
Okay. So on this bar right here, we would move this stop loss, right? So
somewhere here?
Right. Exactly. Okay. And then – On the commitment, this is a commitment to the
upside, so the same idea.
Once you see the commitment, this is where we could move both of the stop
losses, maybe somewhere here, below this low.
Okay, when is the next time when you would move the stop loss?
The next time I would move the stop loss is...
I like the bar right on the beginning of 2017.
I can see that although the price is declining right before that, the supply
signature is also declining.
There's less volume.
And I don't know. Yeah, I see that. And then a little spike in the demand comes
back. I like that personally.
So I would move the stop loss.
To the top of the previous trading range, try to find
a good area of support on the top of the trading range there for the full stop
loss.
I'm sorry, say again, at the top of the trading range, right somewhere here?
Yes, right there, yes. Okay.
All right, well, there is a commitment to the upside.
It's not a big significant bar.
But it's like a semi -significant bar.
So probably would, you know, as long as you're doing this one half and one half,
I would agree that, you know, one of the stop losses should be slightly below
the resistance level here, somewhere here.
Maybe the second one should still stay at the same place.
Just if we're thinking about the causality, we're thinking about a much
price.
and we're just at the resistance level.
So we want to give the room for the price to go outside of the trading
Okay, this is a very interesting bar.
Because it commits to the upside above the resistance.
And we know that we are in some kind of sign of strength rally.
And it does look climactic with all of the characteristics.
Now, this is a very interesting question.
So I want you guys to think for a second about this. I'm going to ask this
question right now.
And write down the answers.
If this is a climactic action, then where is the trading range?
Because after the climactic action, shouldn't we have the sequence of?
Change of character, which leads to the automatic reaction, phase A,
and so on and so forth, and then we go through phases.
Where is our trading range for that climactic action?
Mitri, what do you think?
Well, I would say I personally would label it as the boundaries.
Phase A kind of determines the trading range there. So we have the buying
as the top of the trading range.
And then the automatic reaction would
be the bottom of the trade. Okay, so this is the trading range.
Okay, great.
Any other ideas, guys?
What else do you see?
I also see that...
line you drew um that goes to the highs of you know mid 2016
that happens to be you know a support for the automatic
reaction that takes place right there in early 2017 so that is another reason
why probably we and and it's one half the around one half the uh
the spread of that large s bar You have right there. Yeah.
Okay. That's all valid. All of those observations are valid.
So the logic here that I'm thinking about is this.
We know that definitionally a sign of strength is going to be a commitment
the line of resistance that was created in phases A and B by the highs.
Usually a sign of strength rally will have a culminating move at the end of
rally. it's going to look like a climax with the increase in volume signature
and increase in price action. So this bar suggests that this is the climax.
Then usually we would experience the backing up action as a horizontal range,
and then out of this range we are going to have a resumption of the uptrend.
Let me ask you this as a question, guys. So we have traveled from,
what is it, about eight and a half
to about
17, $18.
So we have made what? We have made about 120%.
It's a high momentum stock.
It just shows us that there is so much strength.
And then we look at the volume signature and we see how institutions are
actually getting into this position.
So the reaction that we are anticipating might not necessarily be a horizontal
reaction or a downsloping reaction.
Remember that there is another type of reaction that we could have. We could
have a reaction that would have an upsloping structure
to that.
And then, you know, if we were thinking that this first leg
was the momentum leg,
where institutions are getting into the position.
Then the second leg of the uptrend usually is gonna be associated with a
slightly high volume signature because at this period of time, there's gonna be
some profit taken.
So it's gonna become something like this. Supply is gonna increase, then
is gonna increase because With the increase of the supply, what it does is
produces a reaction, and this reaction produces short -term value for
institutions and they buy.
So it's almost that through this area we are absorbing supply
on the way up.
Vertical absorption is happening.
So instead of a horizontal range or downsloping reaction, we might have an
upsloping reaction like this. And then the phase C is going to be defined by a
local volatility.
Here it is.
So here is our area of absorption, which should have been...
reaction like this but because of the strength it's just up sloping now would
have the same characteristics that I've described yeah look at this supply is
coming in on the bind climax and on the change of character
then supply comes in on the way to the upside and then in potential
phase C Now, it's a little bit counterintuitive to what we have studied
schematics because usually it's horizontal.
And I don't advise to label this or to show you guys, to show to anybody that
you're labeling this.
I still would prefer you to say that this is an uptrend.
But as a concept, I want you to understand the process of what is
Some of the institutions have bought throughout the IPO trading range. Then
the way up.
some of them are profit taking.
And usually it's either an upsloping range like this or it's gonna be a
horizontal range where they're taking the profits and that produces a stop in
action at least temporarily.
And once we are done, the third leg
is gonna have characteristics where supply
Why supply is low? Well, because they took all of the supply in the IPO
range, so value buy.
Then they took it on the way up. We see a lot of emerging demand signatures.
So this is our momentum and trend following buy.
Then they took some profits.
profit taken, and they observed whatever the
supply came with this profit taken. So we have observed the supply three times
now in three areas.
In one area, horizontal area, and in two upsloping areas, uptrend areas.
So by the time that we go into this speculative phase, supply is so
that there is nothing left.
And that's what produces that quick movement.
Think about the value of this information, because if we know that the
absorption on the momentum happened, and then the absorption with this profit
-taking phase has happened as well, we could anticipate a very quick move up,
much faster than, let's say, first two phases, and therefore we should use
specific strategies.
Those are going to be much shorter strategies, and our stop losses are
be much more aggressive.
All right, well, with that, now let's come back to Dmitry.
So what is going on next?
We have moved the stop loss on this bar to where?
To right below, right at the low of that bar.
of that bar okay where is the next bar when we're gonna move the stop loss next
bar i would say would be in right in may the beginning of may
okay so this bar right here okay so where where is the stop loss right below
or somewhere else um i would like to i would probably put
It's not a huge bar, so I would probably put the stop loss at one half of the
range of the previous significant bar.
Okay, somewhere here.
Which coincides with the bottom of that trading range.
Okay, next bar. Probably this one?
Yeah. Okay, so stop loss somewhere here, right?
Below that bar.
Okay, next bar.
Stop loss somewhere here.
Right, yes.
Okay.
Next bar, probably this one. Stop loss probably somewhere here or slightly
Yes.
Next two, we could combine these two.
We could have the stop loss maybe somewhere here.
Now think about the speculative phase, what I said. Here you want to be...
more aggressive with the stop loss because on the speculative run, you want
take as much money as you can and don't give up a lot of the
grounds here, right? So we would literally just go like step by step,
something like this.
And that would get us out on the change of character bar right here.
And that would be a really good trade.
Now, if we entered here, another question that I have here, Dmitry, is
let's say we're staying in this trend, we're enjoying it, and so on and so
forth, but the biggest problem with the winners for advanced traders, and I'm
experiencing the same type of problems,
is to where accumulate more. So let's identify appropriate places that are
efficient places for us where we would add to the position before we exit. So
where do you think those are?
I would not add to the position on the next
up bar.
Hold on a second. Next up, which bar? Give me the time step.
So it would be the 2018 bar.
Hold on a second. We are talking about just one cycle here. So this is a point
of entry for us.
Oh, okay. This is an exit.
So we are not discussing what happens after the exit.
What I would like for us to do is...
If we're just opening one position, that's a waste of a trade, wouldn't you
I mean, if we're just opening one trend, that doesn't make sense with this type
of trade.
You have to be a pick here because this is a high flyer, so you just
want to load up at the correct places.
So when is the next correct place for us to add to the position after the point
of entry?
Probably right before the November.
Yeah, late October.
Okay, this bar. Okay, great.
Where else could we add to the position? Literally the next step. Think about
our theoretical schematic where we were discussing the points of entry.
2017 bar, right in the beginning of 2017.
Okay, 2017, what would this bar be associated with?
Is this a stepping stone trading range, phase C?
This would be a, well, I see it would be
actually, no, maybe not because it's right at the resistance from 2016.
Yeah. Look at this resistance. We probably would be hesitant to open on
because it goes right into the resistance.
So we're probably still thinking this range right here.
I think this is a really good bar. It comes after phase C.
And then before the resistance,
We probably have a combination of these two bars where we could still add to the
position. So I would add here.
Look how there is still some room before the resistance cluster.
And then we are relatively close to one half of the trading range. And then I
would stop. I would not do anything on this bar because how close it is to the
resistance and it's just touching. So you would anticipate that some kind of
supply is going to come. There's going to be some kind of stopping action.
But the way how the price is behaving here suggests that supply is low,
and we want to identify that phase C by local volatility, so somewhere here.
So probably I would be inclined to think that out of phase C, because of the low
volatility, we could enter this position, so somewhere here.
All right, so what's the next point where we could add?
to the position, Mitchell?
I would try to follow that same logic for the next trading range.
Okay.
Look for it maybe in an intraday basis.
Well, this is a weekly, so maybe look at the daily chart.
See if there's a phase C opportunity that I could take a stab at there.
Low volatility trading ranges.
So they kind of allow us to go in and establish this position as the price is
phase C or on the way out in phase D. Okay, so where else?
Then that bar right
in the middle of May and June.
It's a nice S -bar.
High volume, but not too high, so it doesn't seem like a climactic type of
for me.
Okay.
Right there. Out of this area right here. Okay.
Look where we established our positions, by the way.
I don't mind this entry, by the way, but probably after that, I'm going to stop
until a certain point. What is that point?
Well, when we look at all of our...
that we've done, we see that they come out of some kind of formation, right? So
formation, formation, and those are low volatility.
I think this is okay because we're relatively close to the breakout.
We're still anticipating momentum to continue.
But I would be looking for this type of the reactions, right? So this looks a
little bit smaller.
I would probably looking for either this or this or like a combination of this.
Maybe like this as one more pronounced same type of
magnitude reaction.
So we want to make sure that we invest and we add at the same
magnitude reaction as number one or
quickly right after the breakout. That's why I don't mind this entry because
after the breakout, it happens almost right away.
But then after that, we're probably looking at this area right here as our
buy.
Oh boy, my Siri is hearing me.
Okay, so and that's probably where we're gonna...
Oh, my goodness.
Hold on a second.
Apple
technology.
So these are probably all of the places where we would go in and add with the
reasonable expectation that there's going to be some kind of continuation
on the momentum of the long -term trend.
Point of entry number one, two, three.
four, five, six, and seven.
So we would have a meaningful position going into last speculative round.
And this bar definitely gives us that change of character type of feeling
because it has all of it.
And hopefully, guys, you are exiting just on the idea of the speculation
itself.
And you are moving those stop losses much, much faster and more aggressively
the speculative phase, and you're getting out early on at around 45.
That would have been a great trade. Now, if you're still holding on to this
trade, there are quite a few bullish scenarios right here.
You know, we would talk about this, but we're already, you know, way, way beyond
the class time.
So with that, we're going to stop here. Dimitri, thank you so much. That was
really good.
Thank you.
All right.
And, guys, as usual, the homework.
Let's come back to we're going to do two homeworks. So one is an anatomy of the
trade. Please analyze.
The symbol is SPWR.
That's assignment number one.
Then you have a bias gain.
That's assignment number two.
And then for those of you who have time and you guys want to listen to this
recording again and make notes and you want to send those notes to me, please
so. I always love to look at your notes.
And this is a really great exercise.
So with that, really good class, good participation.
Thank you for volunteering.
You know, as usual, this is the class where we are trying to go into a lot of
details on the analysis. So let's just get into the habit of volunteering and
just going through the exercise.
Good job, guys, and thank you so much. I'll see you next week.
Bye -bye.
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