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Hello, everyone. Today is September
10th, and this is our first session of
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Wyckoff Trigion Practicum course.
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This session is open for everyone, so we
have two groups of people. We have
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students who already signed up, so I'm
looking forward to spending the whole
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semester with you guys. We have a lot of
material to go through. We have a lot
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of exercises to go through. I see that a
lot of you have signed up again for the
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practicum. That pleases me a lot because
the It tells me that whatever we're
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doing, we're doing it in the correct
way, and education that we provide is
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valuable. So thank you for coming back.
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For those of you who are new, there is a
second group here for this
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presentation. This is an open door, so
welcome guests.
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And obviously, we would like you to
become a part of our class.
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Now, there is a catch here.
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usually I do not do the open doors for
the Wyckoff Practicum. And the
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reason why is because Wyckoff Practicum
has a prerequisite, Wyckoff Trading
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Course. Wyckoff Trading Course is a
foundational course, and then students
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graduate to the Practicum. And in
Practicum, we discuss intermediate to
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concepts, and we practice those.
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But I kind of wanted to...
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wanted to open up this class so that you
guys would see what exactly do we do?
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What is it that you want to strive for
in your education with us through the
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first Wyckoff Trading Course?
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So this is a preview for those of you
who are guests.
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Obviously, if you want to participate in
this particular class, you have to make
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sure that you have the prerequisite, the
Wyckoff Trading Course, and then you
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can sign up.
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If you have any other questions, contact
me or Nancy at WyckoffAssociates at
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gmail .com.
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We will be glad to address any of your
questions. We're going to have 15
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sessions.
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The alumni rate is $598 over the $898
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for the whole course. So for those of
you who are alumni and you're still
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thinking, this is a good price for 15
sessions.
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So I would be really happy to see a lot
of alumni in this course.
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The next two sessions in September is
going to be on the 17th and the 24th at
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the regular 3 to 530 Pacific. As usual,
I'm expecting all of the homeworks to
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come only in one file, if possible,
PowerPoint or PDF.
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And obviously, just mention your name,
the course.
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and in the title just put the name of
the course.
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All of our sessions are interactive, as
you guys know, so therefore for those of
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you who would like to interact with me
to go through the exercises to analyze
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and kind of to be a little bit in a hot
seat, and usually by this time you guys
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are more relaxed, you know, we are not
really...
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concerned about making the mistakes what
we want to do is we want to make the
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mistakes and we want to analyze why we
made a mistake and then correct it so
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mistakes are really welcome here so you
know it's kind of like a very uh relaxed
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atmosphere that we have in this class
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So remember just to have a built -in
microphone because I will talk to you.
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All of the recordings and slides from
this session will only be available to
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paid students.
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That's usually how it is. You guys will
receive the access information and
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instructions on how to get to those
recordings and slides I think tonight,
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tomorrow, tonight.
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We'll do that.
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All right, sounds great. Let's go.
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As usual, All of our classes are for
educational purposes only, even though
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showing you my traits, and I will be
showing a lot of my traits throughout
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semester. We will be talking about a lot
of actual examples in this semester.
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Those are still for educational purposes
as well.
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Obviously, stating this with the idea
that everyone has their own trading
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and however I trade and whatever I show
to you guys, that's not necessarily the
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best trading for you, so you kind of
have to know this, and I'm also saying
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this is only for educational purposes.
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What are we going to study? So this is
important, especially for those of you
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who signed up.
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I've been diligently...
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working on this curriculum for the last,
you know, five, six years or so.
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And it's always expanding and it's
always kind of go into the depth of the
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material. And practicum is a very
special class because it's the
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and the advanced students and the
graduates of the WTC course. So we speak
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same language.
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we understand and we understand the same
concepts it's easier for us to
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communicate rather than when you sign up
for wtc course so therefore it's easier
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for us to um have a much more in -depth
discussions on the subjects so with all
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of our 15 sessions what are we going to
go through well obviously all of the
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knowledge that we uh acquired in the
Wyckoff trading course. We want to
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understand how to apply it and how to
apply it consistently and profitably. So
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this is going to be a main focus.
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We're going to do this through the
drills and exercises.
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Therefore, a practicum. We are
practicing and we are very deliberate
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practicing our knowledge.
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We're going to have a lot of
concentration on bias and timing. So we
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recognize the bias as the price steal.
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in the trading range.
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And then we want to understand and
identify the timing as to when the price
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going to leave.
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And both are very challenging.
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We're going to add one more to that.
We're going to talk about the character
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with which the price should move.
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And this is also a very advanced
concept.
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It's important for us to understand how
the price is going to move because we
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could be thinking about specific
strategies and exploiting the most
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strategies, extracting the most
potentially, you know, the most amount
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of money.
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So that's what we will concentrate on.
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Those are going to be our fundamental
points of focus.
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But then the next segment is extremely
important, trading tactics and
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management.
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We spend a lot of time in the Wyckoff
Trading course on the analysis itself,
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rightfully so.
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Whenever people come to me and they say,
well, I want to
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concentrate on developing my intuition
in trading, and I understand
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the idea, and I've been there when I was
a beginner, and I also want to develop
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that intuition when I was a beginner.
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My answer now, after over two decades of
trading and now over
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almost a decade of teaching, is that
forget about the intuition.
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Concentrate on knowledge first. Then
concentrate on skill.
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And then concentrate on everything else,
like mental execution.
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Why am I saying this?
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Because time and time again, when I see
that people try to tend...
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attend to their mental landscape or how
they mentally execute the trade.
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In a lot of cases, the mistakes come
actually from the analysis itself.
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So in other words, they are not fully
ready to be consistent with their
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analysis.
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And they go and they are executing, and
on the top of the bad analysis, they
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have bad execution mistakes and then bad
mental mistakes.
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So therefore, concentrate on knowledge
first, then concentrate on skill, and
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then concentrate on your mental
practices.
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So what are the trade management or
execution points that we're going to
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here?
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Different price structural scenarios,
those we started discussing in the WTC
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course, and we're going to continue
heavily residing in that space.
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We're going to be talking and developing
different bullish bearish scenarios, as
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I've told you in the WTC course. It's
important to develop those.
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Why? Because mentally we have to be able
to switch the bias
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if we see any signs of the confirmation
or a failure.
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And it's easier for us to develop the
scenarios and then follow them rather
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be surprised by how the market behaves.
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Trade management. Well, this is also
very crucial. We want to understand
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we are getting into the position, where
we are putting the stop losses, how do
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we move the stop losses, where do we
exit, how do we scale in, how do we
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out. Those are extremely important
points for us.
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Risk management. I started talking about
this.
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in the last semester on kind of like
very rudimentary level.
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And I think that this material is going
to start developing more and more. We
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want to understand what's the risk
proposition that we are taking. We want
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understand the risk per portfolio.
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We want to understand the risk that is
correlation risk to the assets and
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instruments that you do have in your
portfolio.
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We want to understand how in the
campaign we could, you know,
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mitigate the risk if we have a long
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And we also want to understand the risk
that is related to the structure itself.
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So in this material, obviously, as I
said, we will be developing more and
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Filtering trade candidates, well,
filtering is always a big deal, so we
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bunch of exercises that we're going to
go through.
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and filtering, and that's gonna be it.
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And then advanced Wycoff analysis.
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So this is just kind of a continuation
of the WTC. This is one layer down,
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one layer deeper.
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We're gonna talk about different
behaviors by different market
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gonna introduce today just a couple of
ideas, you know, actually from WTC.
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We're gonna talk about the volume
signature.
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We're going to spend a lot of time on
trends and recognizing where we are in
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trend structurally, where we are in the
trend on the relative performance and so
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on and so forth.
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We're also going to look at some
historical examples. I'm going to bring
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of the analogs, well, hopefully.
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And then we'll also use Morgan.
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TA tools, technical analysis tools, in
conjunction with Wyckoff logic and
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Wyckoff structural analysis.
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And that will help us out tremendously
to visualize some of the concepts.
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So we have a very busy agenda for the
practicum, and I'm really excited to
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this course.
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Practicum is always my favorite course
because...
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of the conversations that we do have
here.
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So hopefully for those of you who are
guests today or you're just watching the
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video, you guys will get a good sense as
to, you know, what to strive for, what
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to educate yourself towards, and what do
we do, you know, at wycofanalytics .com
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here, what kind of education we provide,
you know, in order for us, you know, to
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be better traders.
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All right.
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For those of you who are interested now
in the practicum, but you haven't taken
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the WTC course, the Wyckoff Trading
course, here's the curriculum. And I'm
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going to go through this. I just want
you to stop the video, you know, and
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of like go through this yourself.
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But the main things here is that it's
all about analysis.
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So we're concentrating on analytical
filters.
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We're concentrating on the market
structural analysis.
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on the analysis of the volume and price
and relative and comparative analysis.
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And in those different areas, we have a
lot of sub -segments, whether in the
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structural analysis, it's change of
character, change of the structural
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environment, work of advance, work of
phases.
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Under the price and volume analysis, the
main theme is going to be about effort
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and the result.
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We will discuss a lot of this here.
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In the practicum, this is one of the
cornerstones of our analysis.
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We will talk in WGC about the bar -by
-bar analysis, VSA, swing -by -swing
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analysis, volume patterns in different
phases, historical analogs, and then on
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the relative comparative analysis, we'll
do a lot of filtering and scanning and
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some basic knowledge understanding of
how we look at those.
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All right.
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So for those of you who are interested
to sign up for the WTC, sign up today.
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You will get free WMD sessions.
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So that's what I would suggest to you.
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All right, homework.
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For those of you who are already
students in this class or for those of
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will be students in this class, I want
you to right away look at the homework
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and start doing it. Do not wait until
the last moment.
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I want you maybe to come back to your
homework and thoughtfully to go through
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this again.
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There's going to be a couple of not
necessarily mandatory assignments that I
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want you to do, but I'm assuming that
you guys are going to be a little bit
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active in this class.
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Preferably, I would love you to do these
assignments.
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Our first assignment is very easy. We're
gonna have a conversation in the next
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class about the practices. How do we
practice trading?
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And for those of you who are gonna
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say that practicing trading does not
have a really good merit,
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would highly disagree with that.
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And I hear that from time to time from
students that come to us.
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I truly believe in practice. I think a
lot of you professionals there in your
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own fields, you believe in practice as
well. It's because repetition makes it
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perfect. And then we will talk about
what kind of repetition we want to make.
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I'm actually...
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incorporating into my daily routine my
own practices where I'm just basically
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not answering emails, not picking up the
phone, not looking at my trading at
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all. I'm just practicing, deliberately
looking at some concepts and going
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through those. And we'll talk about
this.
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So there are two articles.
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One is actually a chapter from the
Outliers book by Malcolm Gladwell. And
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sure a lot of you have read that. I have
read that.
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The chapter, is gonna be 10 ,000 hours.
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So we're gonna approach the practice
from quantitative point of view. And
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one of my favorite articles on the
deliberate practice, the mundanity of
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excellence. And then, guys, I will also
give you a couple of other articles in
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the next week for those of you who like
the subject, optional reading.
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But the mundanity of excellence is an
excellent case study on the Olympic
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swimmers and how they practiced and who
of them actually qualified to be on the
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Olympic team.
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And who didn't? And what was different
between their practices?
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So I want you to read this.
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And there is also some questions that I
want you to answer. I want you to think
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about your training and to answer a
couple of questions.
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And that is, what is the number of
trades that you have per year?
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How many hours per day?
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do you spend on educating yourself, not
just trading, but educating yourself
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about trading, maybe going through the
selection algorithm, maybe attending
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classes, reading some books, listening
to podcasts, and so on and so forth.
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I want you to think about these
concepts, and we will discuss those in
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class.
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because our time here in this course is
limited, even though it's 15 sessions.
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But we want to be extremely deliberate
and precise as to what we
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study. And I'm extremely serious about
when I develop the
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curriculum for the whole course.
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You know, I'm going through all of the
subjects and topics that we're going to
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talk about.
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I'm sequencing them in the logical way
so that, you know, there would be some
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bridges between what we've done before,
what we're doing in each session, and
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where the class is in general just as a
group.
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Okay, great. So this is assignment
number one.
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Assignment number two I'm going to
explain in a second. It's going to be a
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game. So we've had a huge success with
students in this class as well in the
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practicum in the last two cycles where
one of the weekly
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home assignment was to always analyze
one chart or two charts and to define
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bias distribution or accumulation and
this is
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Great exercise to do throughout the
whole semester and just to stay on
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analyzing by yourself, coming to the
next class and actually listening to me
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analyzing this chart as well and seeing
where there is a discrepancy between
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your analysis and my analysis.
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And throughout the whole semester, I
will ask you to keep the tally of how
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many... successful biased games you've
done and how many unsuccessful biased
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games you know you've done that number
that percentage whether it's 20 30 40 50
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60 70 80 you know whatever number you're
going to have is a reflection of
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your level of knowledge right now and i
usually say if
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you're under 40 for this game most
likely This means that my advice would
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to you to stick with education and until
you actually hit the bias game
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consistently above 40%, you know, don't
be very aggressive with your trading.
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And that's what we do, you know, with
this game.
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It looks like a game, but there is a lot
of education behind it.
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And then the last assignment is optional
assignment. And I'm extremely...
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Excited about this, too.
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These are kind of like the new
innovations that we're bringing here in
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education.
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This assignment is going to be about
specific stock, Aurora Cannabis.
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I do have a position in the stock, so
I'm going to show you exactly where I
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entered that position, on which side,
and we'll talk about the analysis of
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stock. But to talk about the analysis of
this talk intelligently, I would like
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you to analyze it. So please send me
your analysis to wakeofassociates at
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.com with the title that this is the
practical homework number one. You could
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mention the ACB symbol for Aurora
Cannabis.
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And throughout the whole 15 sessions, we
will have an
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anatomy of a trade segment.
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This is gonna be a real -time position
that I already have.
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We're gonna discuss it, and then as a
class, we're gonna vote.
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You guys are gonna vote what we're gonna
do with this position.
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Are we gonna close it?
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Are we gonna open this position, add to
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Or are we gonna do nothing?
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So very exciting.
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We kind of have a lot of
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elements throughout this class where uh
you know we have the real -time market
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you know with the anatomy of the trade
segment we have an educational game on
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the bias that's gonna gonna uh gonna go
on and then we have a lot of material
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that i'm just gonna give you during the
class and i'm anticipating that we are
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gonna interact a lot guys so just be
prepared for that Just a quick reminder
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those of you who are guests, this
session is being recorded and we will
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on the Wyckoff Trading Method YouTube
channel tonight.
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For those of you who signed up for the
course, the mundanity of excellence and
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the outliers articles will be posted
tonight together with the class video
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the slides on our class page that is
behind the password wall.
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So you will receive the access
instructions to that page tonight as
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Awesome. Okay, so here is your first
home assignment.
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This is the first bias game that we're
going to have, guys.
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And usually, you know, in the last
cycle, if I had, you know, two charts
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to take home and to go through, we're
going to start with one, and then I just
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want to kind of like, you know, once
we're in a more, in a smaller group,
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we'll decide, you know, how many charts
we're going to have.
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But this is the first chart, so have a
look.
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Here is your trading range, and the game
is very simple. What do you think? Is
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this an accumulation or is this a
distribution?
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Some student from this class, from the
previous WTC class,
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who plays this game,
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who plays this game on Twitter, and I'll
talk about this,
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you know, he commented that sometimes we
leave the
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last bar kind of like in the middle of
the range.
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And that if we would have some kind of
more or less definitive reversal
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shown, it would be easier to define the
bias.
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That's not the point, guys.
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If I would be showing to you the last
bar reversal, then it would be easy to
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guess what this is, correct?
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I want you to think and analyze from the
beginning of the chart to
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the end of the chart. I want you to
understand the environments, the
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the structure itself.
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And I don't want you to guess by the
last bar.
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I want you to create a Wyckoff story.
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A Wyckoff story is a sequence of events
that unfold throughout the chart.
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And when we come to the last bar, we
basically already have a developed bias
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as to what it should be.
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So we'll talk about this more.
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But here is your first home assignment.
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So for those of you who signed up, go
for it.
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I mentioned the bias game, and I
mentioned that we play it on Twitter.
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Very popular on Twitter.
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This game comes out each week on
Wednesdays,
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and you just have to sign up for our
Twitter. We also
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have a lot of the free material that you
could receive.
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Be informed that it's out there. If you
signed up for our Twitter, we have a lot
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of new blogs.
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We have three new blogs.
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We have a lot of videos that are coming
out each week.
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So if you're on Twitter with us, you
know exactly what comes out.
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So it's just easier.
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Then just play the game.
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We give you the chart, as I've shown you
before, and then we ask you to vote, to
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cast your vote.
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So in this case, this particular chart,
people voted that it was distribution,
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54%, 116 votes we had for that
particular game. And then in a couple of
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days, we give you a solution.
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And not only that, we actually give you
the Wyckoff story. This is the
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description that...
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you know, our content team works on and
then I go through and then our editor
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works on.
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So it's a team effort to come up with
this solution slide.
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And this is just such a great education
on the weekly basis that you could have
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for free.
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for free, not even attending the class.
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And you will have the access to me and
to our resources and to our
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company.
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So I would highly recommend you guys to
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sign up on the Twitter.
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Anatomy of the Trait. I mentioned Aurora
Cannabis.
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I'm not going to go into a lot of
details of why I have a position
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in this stock or what kind of position I
have.
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I really would like you guys to make
your own analysis and to go through your
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own analysis first.
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And then in the second class, this is
where we're going to go into a lot of
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details. We're going to look at the long
-term picture. We're going to look at
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the short -term picture.
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And this position that I have,
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You know, could work out, might not work
out. I don't know. And I don't really
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care. I just have it.
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And I think this is an interesting group
right now.
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I'm looking a lot into that group
specifically, you know, for some of the
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that I usually look for in the
candidates during the selection process.
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So I want you to just.
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Do your analysis, but today, because we
have guests, let's have fun.
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So what we're going to do is what we're
going to do every time.
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We're going to examine this position,
and then we're going to vote.
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Should we add, close out? Should we open
this position? Well, in this case, the
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position is already open. So why don't
we do this right now?
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Look at the chart.
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Think about this for a second.
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Look at the price. Look at the volume
signature. Look at where we are.
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Think about the bias.
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And let's go to the poll. I'm going to
launch the poll right now.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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Oh,
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I think I made a mistake.
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All right.
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let me just quickly correct this
apologies so
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that just gives you a little bit more
time to think about this this chart
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again the question here is what would
you do now would you
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would you buy it at this
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point would you short it at this point
or would you do nothing
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so let's see how the voting is going all
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right okay well
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while you're still guys of voting i'm
gonna extract this information from our
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poll
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I'm gonna show you that in a second.
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It's always interesting to see how
people vote as a group.
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So it gives me a very interesting
perspective
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as to what kind
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of sentiment we have in the group on the
specific position or
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there is also a very interesting
sequence as to how people vote on
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and how people vote on the distribution.
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So those are also very interesting.
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And I'll talk about this later on and
I'll show you more.
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Okay, so what do we see here?
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51 % of you are saying, let's buy it,
let's buy it right now.
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And 37%, the next big group, They're
saying, let's just do nothing.
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We don't have maybe enough confirmation
and so on and so forth.
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Okay, and that's how we would be doing
this. We would be analyzing the stock.
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would vote first, then we would analyze.
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We would know exactly what position we
have, and we would be analyzing a
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short -term picture, a long -term
picture.
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We would be thinking about different
scenarios and how the price is going to
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unfold. Actually, basically, we're just
going to go through that during the
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semester. So a fun exercise for us to
have throughout the semester, so I'm
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looking forward to that, and hopefully
you guys look forward to that as well.
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All right, let's start our theoretical
material.
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You know, when I started teaching this
class,
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the biggest focus for me in educating
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other people how to look at the chart
was very basic.
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What I've realized working with a lot of
students and a lot of traders is that
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there are kind of like common mistakes
in the way how we look at the chart.
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And those common mistakes are usually
either In the analysis, either about
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observations, we usually just basically
have poor observation skills.
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If you don't believe me, go out on the
street, walk for five minutes around the
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block, come back home and write down all
of the details of everything that
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you've seen in five minutes of your
walk. And I bet you that most likely you
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will not be able to, you know, list all
of those.
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So think about the chart as well, how
many data points we have there, right?
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for instance, one bar could have a bias
data point. It's up at the close or
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down. It also could have a data point on
the close relative to the spread
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itself, right? Is it in the upper part
or a lower part?
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We have a data point on the high and the
low. We have a data point on the open.
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open relative to the spread where it
was.
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Then we could go outside the bar and we
could extend the series of data points
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that we need to collect.
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What about close to close relationship?
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What about, let's say, a high of the
previous bar to the open of the next bar
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to the low of the next bar?
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What is the percentage of advancement
from close to close, from high to high,
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from open to open, from low to low?
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And I'm just talking about one single
bar. Think about the volume signature,
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that affects us. So there are so many
data points that...
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There are so many data points that we
need to address.
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When we look at the chart, in a lot of
cases, our observations are just not
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sufficient, not enough.
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And that's kind of like one of the main
things that we work in this particular
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class, in the practicum.
452
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:38,159
We are developing the skill to make the
correct observations.
453
00:34:39,340 --> 00:34:41,060
And that's extremely important.
454
00:34:41,260 --> 00:34:47,560
The second biggest issue that I figure
out, you know, working with students is
455
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,300
that sometimes our deductions about what
we see is incorrect.
456
00:34:53,659 --> 00:34:59,380
So we deduce or induce rather, you know,
something that
457
00:34:59,380 --> 00:35:04,800
maybe has relevance to one time frame,
but not another.
458
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,400
Maybe it's relevant to.
459
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,640
A short -term context, but not a long
-term context.
460
00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:18,880
And there are a great number of issues
and mistakes that we make with our
461
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:24,660
deductions. So we're going to go through
the exercises, and as we go through
462
00:35:24,660 --> 00:35:31,200
them, we will develop a specific way of
how we're thinking about analysis
463
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,200
of a chart.
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00:35:32,380 --> 00:35:34,100
What do we look at first?
465
00:35:34,660 --> 00:35:37,240
What is the important...
466
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:43,160
for us to observe, and then what kind of
deductions we usually and regularly
467
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,040
would make based on our observations.
468
00:35:46,700 --> 00:35:51,700
And obviously, those deductions and
observations are all going to be in line
469
00:35:51,700 --> 00:35:58,520
with our intent, which is to find the
bias, whether up, down, or sideways, to
470
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:03,820
time that bias correctly, because we
want to be efficient with our capital,
471
00:36:03,820 --> 00:36:06,160
to understand in the selection process
472
00:36:06,940 --> 00:36:11,140
what is the best stock to choose or the
instrument to choose that will have the
473
00:36:11,140 --> 00:36:13,940
most favorable character on the next
move?
474
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,120
And that's what we are basically dealing
with in the practical.
475
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,820
Okay, so I've talked about this,
outliers, mundanity of excellence. This
476
00:36:28,820 --> 00:36:31,180
a duplicate chart, a slide.
477
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:38,370
Okay. Let's quickly talk about what
we're developing at Wyckoff Analytics,
478
00:36:38,370 --> 00:36:42,030
new program that we have that is being
launched this semester.
479
00:36:43,450 --> 00:36:46,750
And we're going to have the new website
probably in a couple of weeks, so
480
00:36:46,750 --> 00:36:49,330
there's going to be more information on
this.
481
00:36:49,570 --> 00:36:56,430
We have launched a certificate of
proficiency in Wyckoff Method, and we
482
00:36:56,430 --> 00:36:59,130
dedicated the certificate to Henry O
'Pruden.
483
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:03,680
Well, Henry.
484
00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:10,020
Hank, or Dr. Pruden, was my teacher, was
my mentor.
485
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,720
He was a teacher to a lot of Wyckoff
traders and students.
486
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:21,760
And unfortunately, he passed away in
2017 after the
487
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,060
best Wyckoff that we had.
488
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,760
And this is something that Hank and I...
489
00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:33,900
discussed a long time ago um Hank had an
idea to have a certificate in Wyckoff
490
00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:38,980
method at Golden Gate University where
he taught and I taught as well
491
00:37:38,980 --> 00:37:45,580
unfortunately you know with his path in
the whole program has been axed and
492
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:51,240
We only have a couple of classes there
that are left, so hopefully they will
493
00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:55,640
come back to us and they will reinstate
it. But meanwhile, we're just kind of
494
00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:02,380
following the footsteps of Dr. Pruden
himself, and I talked to the
495
00:38:02,380 --> 00:38:06,740
family about using his name, and they're
just extremely excited that Hank's
496
00:38:06,740 --> 00:38:07,740
legacy is going to be.
497
00:38:08,410 --> 00:38:12,610
you know, preserved like that. So I
think it's very appropriate.
498
00:38:12,850 --> 00:38:17,610
So if you would like to finish this
certification, and this certification is
499
00:38:17,610 --> 00:38:24,350
just for you, this is basically to tell
you that I have taken the courses that
500
00:38:24,350 --> 00:38:30,490
were recommended on this subject of
Wyckoff methodology, and I have
501
00:38:30,490 --> 00:38:32,810
taken all of them.
502
00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:35,810
And those courses are...
503
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:42,100
should be enough for me to recognize
that I have the knowledge and the skill
504
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:43,760
trade the Wyckoff method.
505
00:38:44,340 --> 00:38:48,840
And we have five mandatory courses and
then three electives that you could
506
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:49,840
choose yourself.
507
00:38:50,140 --> 00:38:53,200
So something new, something exciting.
508
00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:57,760
Check it out, guys. And if you have any
questions, just email us on this.
509
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:03,660
Speaking of questions, Elle has a
question here, and that is on Aurora.
510
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,400
Let me see.
511
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:17,920
Okay, too late to September 11th, the
earnings
512
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,120
for ACB.
513
00:39:22,420 --> 00:39:27,500
Therefore, Al is saying it's late to
sell before earnings.
514
00:39:28,090 --> 00:39:29,490
Hold for the next earnings report.
515
00:39:30,530 --> 00:39:35,090
ACB's fundamentals are not great because
it overpaid on some growth
516
00:39:35,090 --> 00:39:39,270
acquisitions. So we'll talk more about,
you know, some of the stories in that
517
00:39:39,270 --> 00:39:44,110
space as well. Usually when, you know, I
open the position, you know, I don't
518
00:39:44,110 --> 00:39:47,490
open the position just in one stock, you
know, if I'm campaigning the stock,
519
00:39:47,630 --> 00:39:50,610
right? So I'm usually spread out.
520
00:39:51,390 --> 00:39:54,610
So this is just one of the stocks that
they have in that space.
521
00:39:54,870 --> 00:40:01,410
And we'll talk about that overpaying for
acquisitions. This is not only for
522
00:40:01,410 --> 00:40:06,670
Aurora in this space, but for other
stocks like Canopy as well. So we'll
523
00:40:06,670 --> 00:40:07,670
those type of discussions.
524
00:40:08,710 --> 00:40:09,710
Thank you, Al.
525
00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:15,450
All right, let's go into the next
segment. So each class, as you guys kind
526
00:40:15,450 --> 00:40:18,570
already sense, has segments.
527
00:40:20,490 --> 00:40:27,150
One of the segments here is going to be
for us the question and answer.
528
00:40:27,730 --> 00:40:34,490
And I usually don't encourage students
in the WTC to have extensive questions
529
00:40:34,490 --> 00:40:36,570
until the end of the semester.
530
00:40:37,030 --> 00:40:40,750
Usually their questions, and as you guys
know, you know, who have taken this
531
00:40:40,750 --> 00:40:44,550
course, come in anticipation of the
upcoming material.
532
00:40:44,850 --> 00:40:48,290
So I usually tell them, wait, wait,
wait.
533
00:40:48,940 --> 00:40:54,220
Until we are there, ask then if it's
content appropriate.
534
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,320
I will answer this question. But other
than that, let's leave it for the last
535
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,180
session. In the practicum, we are doing
it in a different way.
536
00:41:02,380 --> 00:41:06,140
And the reason why I changed it is
because in the practicum, we have
537
00:41:06,140 --> 00:41:10,600
intermediate -advanced students, and
those questions are really important and
538
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,380
relevant to our current discussions.
539
00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:17,600
So therefore, I'm going to show you guys
kind of like a segment of...
540
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:24,440
how we dive in and go into the Q &A each
541
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:29,980
class. In each class, you guys can
submit your
542
00:41:29,980 --> 00:41:35,860
questions, and we'll go through those
really quickly. So there are two people
543
00:41:35,860 --> 00:41:38,600
who submitted the questions. So, Simon,
thank you so much.
544
00:41:38,860 --> 00:41:42,280
Again, from sunny Sydney, would love to
be there.
545
00:41:42,660 --> 00:41:46,280
Definitely going to go to Sydney and to
Australia.
546
00:41:47,450 --> 00:41:51,070
So let's plan on having some kind of
Wyckoff sessions there.
547
00:41:52,430 --> 00:41:57,770
A series of questions. And Simon, I
think from the last semester, I remember
548
00:41:57,770 --> 00:42:00,810
questions about the tests, and I thought
that we've addressed them.
549
00:42:01,270 --> 00:42:06,190
But, you know, repetition is fine, and
we're going to go through this again, so
550
00:42:06,190 --> 00:42:07,190
thank you for submitting.
551
00:42:07,330 --> 00:42:13,070
Right away, Simon is saying that the
context for answering this question is
552
00:42:13,070 --> 00:42:14,630
that we are looking at the
553
00:42:15,670 --> 00:42:20,450
under the accumulation or an uptrend. So
right away, guys, think about the
554
00:42:20,450 --> 00:42:21,690
structure that we have here.
555
00:42:22,350 --> 00:42:26,650
Accumulation, trading range, or an
uptrend. So what do we look at here?
556
00:42:27,050 --> 00:42:31,410
What is the purpose of the test? That's
the first question. And then the answer
557
00:42:31,410 --> 00:42:35,990
that Simon is giving is that the purpose
of the test in accumulation or an
558
00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:41,090
uptrend is to test the supply back into
the price area where the test has
559
00:42:41,090 --> 00:42:42,090
occurred.
560
00:42:42,310 --> 00:42:43,410
Is this correct?
561
00:42:43,730 --> 00:42:44,730
Yes.
562
00:42:45,110 --> 00:42:50,890
Absolutely. We want to test, you know,
if we are in the uptrend, what are we
563
00:42:50,890 --> 00:42:51,890
testing?
564
00:42:54,830 --> 00:43:01,630
We might say that these are the tests
that come at the
565
00:43:01,630 --> 00:43:05,690
line of least resistance at the support.
566
00:43:07,210 --> 00:43:10,730
And every time we have some kind of
reaction, we might have some kind of
567
00:43:10,730 --> 00:43:12,410
increase in the supply signature.
568
00:43:12,830 --> 00:43:19,710
And we are testing the availability of
institutional desire to
569
00:43:19,710 --> 00:43:22,850
come in and to support the price at this
level.
570
00:43:24,190 --> 00:43:26,290
I'm going to say this in a different
way.
571
00:43:26,690 --> 00:43:33,430
Every time we are having some kind of
test, we are testing if...
572
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:39,680
there is sufficient interest on the
demand side to come in and to observe
573
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,540
short -term supply that is available.
574
00:43:42,780 --> 00:43:47,620
And usually when we talk about somebody
coming in on the demand side, those are
575
00:43:47,620 --> 00:43:48,620
going to be institutions.
576
00:43:49,820 --> 00:43:52,060
Those also could be professional
traders.
577
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,960
There are a lot of the traders here that
are going to look at the mean reversion
578
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:01,540
trade. Just because we're in the short
-term oversold condition, this means
579
00:44:01,540 --> 00:44:05,010
the... price should come back to a mean,
right?
580
00:44:05,890 --> 00:44:11,870
If we were in the overbought condition,
those traders will be shorting.
581
00:44:12,330 --> 00:44:17,290
If we are in the oversold condition, in
the uptrend, again, extremely important
582
00:44:17,290 --> 00:44:23,170
to remember the context of where we are,
then they will be buying in
583
00:44:23,170 --> 00:44:27,070
anticipation that not only the price
will come back to the mean,
584
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:33,320
but it might also overcommit into the
next overbought condition in the
585
00:44:33,460 --> 00:44:35,260
and that would be a swing trade.
586
00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:40,880
An example of this concept,
587
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:47,100
actually, we probably, well, let me just
show you guys really quickly.
588
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:53,560
Okay.
589
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,780
So an example of this.
590
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:58,800
Both concepts.
591
00:45:01,220 --> 00:45:08,160
It's going to be this most recent trade
in gold that I'm in. So I am
592
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:14,280
long -term companion gold, meaning that
I have a cash position
593
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:19,700
in gold. I have opened this position
here.
594
00:45:23,220 --> 00:45:25,220
Hold on a second. That was in April.
Yes.
595
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:32,700
So that was the first time. So back in
April, and then in May, I think either
596
00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:33,800
here or here.
597
00:45:34,260 --> 00:45:39,900
So there were multiple entries for this
position before the price started moving
598
00:45:39,900 --> 00:45:46,640
up. I was not adding on the stepping
stone, but what I've done
599
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:51,380
just recently, specifically here, here,
600
00:45:53,870 --> 00:45:55,990
is I hedged this position.
601
00:45:57,190 --> 00:46:04,190
So my hedge is acting against my main
long
602
00:46:04,190 --> 00:46:05,410
-term campaign position.
603
00:46:05,790 --> 00:46:12,750
And we'll talk about why we do this and
when would we do this more
604
00:46:12,750 --> 00:46:19,150
importantly because the timing with
hedges is gonna be extremely important
605
00:46:19,150 --> 00:46:21,710
when you actually do this.
606
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:30,020
And also, I'm having puts
607
00:46:30,020 --> 00:46:36,380
here against the cash, so you need to
understand how you actually
608
00:46:36,380 --> 00:46:42,360
calibrate your position in such a way
that it becomes neutral. So instead of
609
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:47,280
your equity line doing this, just
basically reflecting what the gold is
610
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:53,400
with the hedge, your equity line should
just be something like this so this way
611
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:58,760
you're not losing some of the unrealized
gains that you already have in your
612
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:03,500
cash position and when there is going to
be some kind of rebound from here and
613
00:47:03,500 --> 00:47:08,300
you close your hedge uh you know that
cash position should increase your
614
00:47:08,300 --> 00:47:15,190
and you basically should have something
like this so um This type of more
615
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:19,990
advanced concepts and techniques, we're
definitely going to discuss a lot.
616
00:47:20,250 --> 00:47:22,330
This is just an example of that.
617
00:47:24,110 --> 00:47:29,610
And I don't think I'm going to go into
the analysis of this. I don't think we
618
00:47:29,610 --> 00:47:30,468
have time.
619
00:47:30,470 --> 00:47:36,570
All right. So those are the tests. Yes,
we are testing definitely the supply.
620
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:40,650
But also I want you to understand that
we are testing not just supply.
621
00:47:40,890 --> 00:47:41,890
We are testing.
622
00:47:42,590 --> 00:47:48,530
if institutions are willing to step in
and to observe that short -term supply
623
00:47:48,530 --> 00:47:54,390
that is being provided to the market by
weak hands at that point.
624
00:47:55,270 --> 00:47:59,230
So you could state it in a different
way.
625
00:47:59,490 --> 00:48:02,070
Another question, how do we identify a
test?
626
00:48:02,370 --> 00:48:04,990
Is it a swing low or a hammer candle?
627
00:48:05,270 --> 00:48:10,810
So I've highlighted this because A swing
low could have different type of
628
00:48:10,810 --> 00:48:16,310
reversals, right? So it's not
necessarily that we could have some kind
629
00:48:16,310 --> 00:48:21,370
or we could have some kind of candle
that's going to be a big reversal
630
00:48:21,530 --> 00:48:26,770
There are so many variations. We could
have literally a candle like this that's
631
00:48:26,770 --> 00:48:31,090
going to be a really average candle, and
that could be the end.
632
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:38,460
of the swing low, especially with the
lower volume signature and with the LPS
633
00:48:38,460 --> 00:48:39,820
type of scenario.
634
00:48:40,140 --> 00:48:44,720
And that would be it. So we can't really
say, I would say like a swing low, but
635
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:47,440
probably not a hammer candle
necessarily.
636
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:53,080
And the question here is, how do we
identify a test? Can we have testing at
637
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,120
swing? This is the second question,
okay.
638
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,440
So different type of variations.
639
00:48:59,630 --> 00:49:05,030
But the main theme, and we've discussed
this in the WTC course, and we will be
640
00:49:05,030 --> 00:49:09,390
talking next class about the significant
bars and the reversals.
641
00:49:10,270 --> 00:49:15,930
In this swing, how do we identify a
reversal, and how do we confirm that
642
00:49:15,930 --> 00:49:19,770
reversal? So that's going to be talked
about in the next class.
643
00:49:20,210 --> 00:49:23,610
But we need to have some kind of
significant bar to reverse.
644
00:49:24,380 --> 00:49:28,920
the last commitment to the downside and
that's what would would define you know
645
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:35,880
that uh reversal and would confirm the
test can we have a testing at
646
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:41,720
the swing high yes absolutely checking
for demand or rather checking if the
647
00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:47,080
institutions are providing supply at
that higher level that also could be
648
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,740
interpreted like that what is regarded
as a successful test.
649
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:57,620
And here we usually would say successful
test is gonna have a high or low, and
650
00:49:57,620 --> 00:50:02,900
preferably we would see some kind of
diminishing volume signature going into
651
00:50:02,900 --> 00:50:03,899
test low.
652
00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:10,880
Now, this is not necessarily exactly how
it should be.
653
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:16,000
We could have a variation where this
high or low could be slightly lower.
654
00:50:16,540 --> 00:50:21,500
and still have a reversal and where the
volume signature actually could increase
655
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:28,180
and then um that volume signature
increase is going to show us that
656
00:50:28,180 --> 00:50:34,260
there is a demand behind that volume so
we could have both variations so then
657
00:50:34,260 --> 00:50:40,660
where is the truth where is that concept
that would tell us that's how i'm going
658
00:50:40,660 --> 00:50:47,480
to do this when i look at the test the
key here is to understand a result,
659
00:50:47,780 --> 00:50:50,820
what is happening with the result.
660
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:55,520
If we have the volume signature that is
diminishing on the high or low and the
661
00:50:55,520 --> 00:51:02,080
price then reverses, then we are saying
that the reversal confirms the success
662
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,078
of the test.
663
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:08,880
If we have a lot of supply coming in and
there is an absorption, aggressive
664
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:13,750
absorption by institutions as they
provide the demand, and we have the
665
00:51:13,750 --> 00:51:18,530
and confirmation that that swing is
done, and the result is such that we are
666
00:51:18,530 --> 00:51:22,090
progressing to the upside, that was a
successful test as well.
667
00:51:22,490 --> 00:51:26,690
So you could have different structures
for tests.
668
00:51:26,990 --> 00:51:30,350
You could have different volume
signature for tests.
669
00:51:30,830 --> 00:51:36,390
But your key definition, whether it was
a successful test or not, is going to be
670
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:40,050
based on the result of what has happened
after the test.
671
00:51:40,780 --> 00:51:44,200
And that's why we talk about a
confirmation, a confirmation.
672
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:50,740
Simon is asking, so is the true result
of the test not
673
00:51:50,740 --> 00:51:54,020
so much the creation of the higher low
itself?
674
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,840
Now, okay, because we're in this
advanced course, I'm going to show you a
675
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,940
that's going to have a different
structural point.
676
00:52:01,180 --> 00:52:02,580
Simon, how about this test?
677
00:52:03,220 --> 00:52:04,320
Cell in climax.
678
00:52:06,540 --> 00:52:07,540
Climactic.
679
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:09,960
Volume.
680
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:15,020
And then a test, secondary test like
this.
681
00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:20,360
And then the volume signature goes down.
So what do we have here in terms of
682
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:26,260
the, and then the price goes up. So what
do we have in terms of available
683
00:52:26,260 --> 00:52:32,500
information to us for the definition of
the success of the test? The volume goes
684
00:52:32,500 --> 00:52:36,720
down. We usually say, yeah, we want to
see that. So that's successful.
685
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,460
But we have a lower low.
686
00:52:39,820 --> 00:52:42,300
So structurally, it's not successful
test.
687
00:52:42,660 --> 00:52:49,120
Usually in WTC course, I teach the
material in such way that basically
688
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,920
that the test should be a higher, low
and lower supply.
689
00:52:52,260 --> 00:52:55,460
This is the next level of the
confirmation.
690
00:52:55,820 --> 00:52:58,960
But for those of you who are more
advanced and especially in this class,
691
00:52:59,340 --> 00:53:02,460
sometimes our secondary tests are going
to look like this.
692
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:08,180
And still the climactic action itself is
going to be prior to that.
693
00:53:08,910 --> 00:53:11,250
And that test is going to come as a low,
low, low.
694
00:53:11,490 --> 00:53:17,130
It might have another test somewhere
here, further down the road as a higher
695
00:53:17,130 --> 00:53:18,130
low.
696
00:53:18,170 --> 00:53:23,630
And we could identify that. But we
should understand as advanced students
697
00:53:23,630 --> 00:53:30,090
the tests could happen this way. And the
biggest thing for us in the
698
00:53:30,090 --> 00:53:34,170
identification of the successful test is
what happens next, the result.
699
00:53:36,090 --> 00:53:38,290
Okay, last question. What is the
concept?
700
00:53:38,860 --> 00:53:41,640
process of evaluation action and test.
701
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,980
What is considered the action and what
is considered a test and the
702
00:53:45,980 --> 00:53:47,180
identification of this?
703
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:53,960
So this is a very interesting concept
because, you know, in Hinkler, you know,
704
00:53:53,960 --> 00:54:00,840
talking about this concept, because we
could literally have this concept
705
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,760
applied to so many things.
706
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,640
We could say that
707
00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:12,610
An actionable bar, which is a big bar,
has some kind of test after that.
708
00:54:13,110 --> 00:54:19,850
And by the virtue of how the next bar
behaves, we could deduce as to
709
00:54:19,850 --> 00:54:24,650
what's going to happen next, at least
short term. So therefore, the first bar
710
00:54:24,650 --> 00:54:28,150
going to be action, and then the second
bar is going to be a test.
711
00:54:28,530 --> 00:54:34,970
I would say that the next action is
going to be either confirmation or
712
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:42,140
And that's also extremely important in
the sequence of action, test, and
713
00:54:42,140 --> 00:54:48,240
failure. Well, if we're talking about
the bars, how about we talk about the
714
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:49,580
swings in the market?
715
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:54,360
So how about we have a swing up and then
a swing down?
716
00:54:54,660 --> 00:55:00,660
A swing up will be an action and swing
down will be a test of that action.
717
00:55:00,660 --> 00:55:04,580
that be appropriate as well, you know,
as an action and test sequence?
718
00:55:04,780 --> 00:55:09,120
Absolutely. And then again, Think about
the confirmation of failure.
719
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,020
What is going to come next?
720
00:55:12,740 --> 00:55:14,320
And that's also a test.
721
00:55:14,540 --> 00:55:21,420
Well, how about this? For the most
radical thinking on this concept, how
722
00:55:21,420 --> 00:55:26,440
thinking about the phases as action and
test?
723
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:32,560
For instance, action to the downside as
a downtrend.
724
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:40,220
action as a selling climax, and then the
test of that is either
725
00:55:40,220 --> 00:55:46,840
an automatic rally, the test that the
environment is changing, or the
726
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:53,220
test of it is that the supply of the
downtrend is done, right? So those are
727
00:55:53,220 --> 00:55:54,800
local action tests.
728
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:56,280
How about this?
729
00:55:57,340 --> 00:56:00,520
Action as phase A
730
00:56:02,250 --> 00:56:07,550
And then multiple tests after that. Test
here,
731
00:56:08,370 --> 00:56:12,790
number two, in phase B. Test here,
number three, in phase C.
732
00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:19,110
And then even test four at the higher
level in phase D.
733
00:56:22,990 --> 00:56:26,450
Simon is saying, so is the process
action test confirmation?
734
00:56:26,890 --> 00:56:31,170
In my mind, I thought the test is the
definitive answer or the confirmation.
735
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:37,040
And see, when we talk about these
things, they make more sense because we
736
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:41,080
in this dialogue right now with Simon,
he's just typing in and I'm just reading
737
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,080
his comments.
738
00:56:43,220 --> 00:56:50,060
That's where the truth comes, in my
opinion. I see this a lot as a process,
739
00:56:50,060 --> 00:56:55,640
teaching process with students. When you
talk to people, that's when we see the
740
00:56:55,640 --> 00:57:01,900
truth. And the truth here is that You
can use action test
741
00:57:01,900 --> 00:57:08,020
as a concept on different, you know, as
I've shown here, on different levels
742
00:57:08,020 --> 00:57:09,020
here.
743
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:16,160
But at the end of it, a test itself does
not necessarily mean
744
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:22,720
that it's successful until we actually
have a confirmation
745
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:23,720
or a failure.
746
00:57:25,060 --> 00:57:27,280
And we just have to wait for that.
747
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:33,100
And that's why the significant bar
technique is so crucial to understand
748
00:57:33,100 --> 00:57:38,800
swing reverses, confirming the higher
low on the swing here,
749
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:45,280
let's say after this reversal, acting as
a confirmation
750
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:51,140
and suggesting that the price will go
up. And at that point, we will make an
751
00:57:51,140 --> 00:57:52,900
assumption, would it overcome the high?
752
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:59,180
Would the character be such that it's
going to do so very rapidly or slowly
753
00:57:59,180 --> 00:58:00,180
so on and so forth?
754
00:58:00,620 --> 00:58:02,480
All right, Simon, really good questions.
755
00:58:02,740 --> 00:58:06,920
So I'm looking forward to the next week
with your questions. Let's see where we
756
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,460
are. We are at four o 'clock. OK, great.
We're doing well.
757
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:16,180
Let's go to other questions. And these
questions come from.
758
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,940
Oh, I'm going to mispronounce the name.
759
00:58:23,540 --> 00:58:29,920
Johan. I think Johan. So Johan, let me
just see. Are you hearing that?
760
00:58:30,700 --> 00:58:35,620
Yeah, so hopefully I'm pronouncing the
name correctly.
761
00:58:37,460 --> 00:58:42,200
So this is a very interesting
762
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:49,020
work in the sense of the commonality of
the mistakes throughout
763
00:58:49,020 --> 00:58:51,440
the charts that were sent.
764
00:58:51,790 --> 00:58:57,650
So just for the purposes of this
particular class, the first session, and
765
00:58:57,650 --> 00:59:04,490
for the purposes of highlighting how we
go into a lot of the
766
00:59:04,490 --> 00:59:10,390
details in our analysis, I would do
this, and I would go through all of the
767
00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:11,490
Hands charts.
768
00:59:11,730 --> 00:59:17,450
In reality, we obviously have quite a
few students in the class, and this is
769
00:59:17,450 --> 00:59:20,550
just the first session. So once we go
into the semester,
770
00:59:22,330 --> 00:59:26,230
deeper into the semester where I
probably would prefer to have maybe like
771
00:59:26,230 --> 00:59:31,610
couple of charts from you guys for each
session and not five to 10 charts or so
772
00:59:31,610 --> 00:59:32,428
on and so forth.
773
00:59:32,430 --> 00:59:37,410
But we'll go hopefully quickly through
some of the concepts here that
774
00:59:37,410 --> 00:59:40,550
Jochen is discussing.
775
00:59:42,530 --> 00:59:48,650
All right, so the first concept here,
when we see the context of the uptrend
776
00:59:48,650 --> 00:59:49,650
we see the structure.
777
00:59:51,660 --> 00:59:53,640
We know what has happened afterwards.
778
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:59,040
It's a downtrend. So the question here
is how can we know that this was a
779
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:03,620
distribution? Because the volume
signature seems to be very low, so it's
780
01:00:03,620 --> 01:00:05,820
indicative of the distributional
pattern.
781
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,360
Okay, so let's address this question,
but also on the background.
782
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:17,620
I want everyone to think about the
commonality of the mistakes.
783
01:00:18,350 --> 01:00:22,750
that a trader makes from chart to chart
and the analysis and then we'll kind of
784
01:00:22,750 --> 01:00:29,570
like conclude with the summary of those
analytical
785
01:00:29,570 --> 01:00:30,570
mistakes.
786
01:00:31,130 --> 01:00:37,970
So if I would be trading this, my
inclination here would be to go and
787
01:00:37,970 --> 01:00:44,810
to look at the bias, which is at this
788
01:00:44,810 --> 01:00:45,870
point is up.
789
01:00:46,730 --> 01:00:51,050
On the change of character, there is
really not a lot of supply that is
790
01:00:51,050 --> 01:00:52,930
in. It's very mediocre.
791
01:00:53,130 --> 01:00:58,930
And that reaction does not produce a big
retracement.
792
01:00:59,150 --> 01:01:03,410
So at this point, we're still thinking
that this is a reaccumulation and all of
793
01:01:03,410 --> 01:01:05,410
our short -term trades are going to be
to the upside.
794
01:01:05,750 --> 01:01:10,350
So anytime the price comes down in the
trading range, we would be thinking up,
795
01:01:10,470 --> 01:01:14,270
up. And then we would be making a
judgment to the progress.
796
01:01:14,810 --> 01:01:16,310
that the price makes to the upside.
797
01:01:16,690 --> 01:01:23,570
An up thrust right here, commitment, and
it overcomes the resistance of the
798
01:01:23,570 --> 01:01:26,070
climactic action, so that looks really
good.
799
01:01:26,510 --> 01:01:30,890
A little bit of the increased volatility
and increased volume signature here
800
01:01:30,890 --> 01:01:32,590
suggests that supply has increased.
801
01:01:33,050 --> 01:01:34,370
What would we do next?
802
01:01:34,570 --> 01:01:38,250
Well, we will keep this in mind, but we
want to see some kind of test.
803
01:01:38,710 --> 01:01:41,870
Coming back to Simon's question, a
higher low.
804
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,200
on the diminishing volume signature.
805
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,680
Do we know, let's say on this bar, that
the test was successful?
806
01:01:49,140 --> 01:01:55,460
We are assuming, Simon, that the test
will be successful, and we only are
807
01:01:55,460 --> 01:01:57,880
confirming the test once we have that
reversal.
808
01:01:58,140 --> 01:02:02,340
Once we have that reversal, we are
anticipating the price will go up, and
809
01:02:02,340 --> 01:02:05,220
facing a series of other questions at
this point.
810
01:02:05,780 --> 01:02:08,400
But that's how we would be thinking
about the test.
811
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:09,940
All right, and then...
812
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:14,460
at this point of time, when we look at
this formation, all we're thinking
813
01:02:14,660 --> 01:02:20,420
okay, so maybe some phase analysis, A,
B, and we're thinking, okay, well, this
814
01:02:20,420 --> 01:02:27,060
could be B, and then we could have maybe
a reaction into C, and then
815
01:02:27,060 --> 01:02:33,960
up movement, or if we're thinking, yeah,
and the phase analysis would not allow
816
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,700
us to put a C here. This is a little bit
too much.
817
01:02:38,330 --> 01:02:42,990
And then B, we always want to be the
largest phase. So even on the structural
818
01:02:42,990 --> 01:02:45,950
analysis, that doesn't kind of feel
comfortable.
819
01:02:46,250 --> 01:02:49,950
But my point here is that look at the
volume signature.
820
01:02:51,430 --> 01:02:57,110
And this is what Johan is referring here
to. This is the biggest problem.
821
01:02:57,370 --> 01:02:59,350
What do we do with that volume
signature?
822
01:02:59,770 --> 01:03:05,450
Well, I want you to think about not just
necessarily supply coming in and
823
01:03:05,450 --> 01:03:06,770
showing its hand.
824
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:13,020
I want you to also think about the
demand. Think about the demand in the
825
01:03:13,020 --> 01:03:17,580
and what kind of signature it has that
it moves the price like this. And then
826
01:03:17,580 --> 01:03:23,440
look at the latest demand signature and
analyze it against that uptrend. And we
827
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,960
could see that the demand signature is
so low.
828
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:33,160
It's probably minus two times lower than
on average than what we have had
829
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:34,720
in the uptrend.
830
01:03:35,150 --> 01:03:36,810
So that is a concern.
831
01:03:37,010 --> 01:03:41,750
Whenever the demand is like this, you
always have to look at the result.
832
01:03:42,590 --> 01:03:49,330
Are we advancing in the price action on
such diminishing demand,
833
01:03:49,570 --> 01:03:55,430
suggesting that supply is even lower at
such point that the price can move up?
834
01:03:56,250 --> 01:03:59,070
And we don't see that here. And it's
very subtle.
835
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:04,220
And you just have to develop the
anticipation when you see a picture like
836
01:04:04,220 --> 01:04:09,160
that there could be a failure. There
could be a reversal. And this is, I
837
01:04:09,180 --> 01:04:15,980
where the mistake was made. The mistake
was made actually kind of thinking
838
01:04:15,980 --> 01:04:21,840
and analyzing of what's happening in
this area and then giving less weight to
839
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,680
actually the failure itself.
840
01:04:25,230 --> 01:04:31,330
And in some of the instances where we
especially discuss any type of the
841
01:04:31,330 --> 01:04:36,630
structure that would be given to a
leadership, right, so where let's say a
842
01:04:36,630 --> 01:04:42,350
leadership has upsloping structure like
this, where leadership has maybe a short
843
01:04:42,350 --> 01:04:49,070
-term change of character,
reaccumulation pattern, and then has an
844
01:04:50,050 --> 01:04:52,210
So this type of structures.
845
01:04:52,830 --> 01:04:56,350
are always going to be confusing to us
because they're going to have a lot of
846
01:04:56,350 --> 01:04:57,810
elements of reaccumulation.
847
01:04:58,170 --> 01:05:04,050
And this is what we are studying, you
know, in the WTC course. So, Johan, if
848
01:05:04,050 --> 01:05:09,050
have a chance, you know, to attend the
WTC course, this is exactly what we
849
01:05:09,050 --> 01:05:10,250
be studying in there.
850
01:05:11,450 --> 01:05:13,770
But let's say that we missed all of
that.
851
01:05:14,170 --> 01:05:19,250
And to me, it's still, and I would say,
I would agree with Johan that it's just
852
01:05:19,250 --> 01:05:20,450
really hard to...
853
01:05:20,830 --> 01:05:25,850
differentiate this type of volume
signature and this type of bullish
854
01:05:25,850 --> 01:05:28,250
as a distributional pattern.
855
01:05:28,570 --> 01:05:33,990
So what do you do? You have to
concentrate on the failure itself.
856
01:05:35,350 --> 01:05:39,370
Here is a failure to advance in price.
857
01:05:39,650 --> 01:05:43,430
Here is the failure to observe the
emerging supply.
858
01:05:46,010 --> 01:05:48,190
And it becomes a sign of weakness.
859
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,700
And LPSY, last point of supply.
860
01:05:50,980 --> 01:05:55,520
And here are a lot of points where we
can establish the position. And that
861
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,220
be just a very good position.
862
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:01,680
All right, let's go. Let's jump to the
next one because we have quite a few
863
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:02,880
that we need to discuss.
864
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:10,760
How do you know it's backholding and not
selling by the CO?
865
01:06:10,980 --> 01:06:15,560
So let's talk about the backholding as a
semantic.
866
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:20,880
um i really like this i was just reading
something uh just recently by wyckoff
867
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:27,520
himself and you know he had that uh back
selling bake back holding um so the
868
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:34,420
concept here is that there is some kind
of bag that the ceo has and
869
01:06:34,420 --> 01:06:40,980
then all of the shares from all of the
weak hands in the situation
870
01:06:40,980 --> 01:06:47,100
like this where we have a very clearly
defined climactic action that comes on
871
01:06:47,100 --> 01:06:48,100
earnings reports.
872
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:55,860
And this is where institutions are just
basically opening up the bag and they're
873
01:06:55,860 --> 01:07:01,700
holding up the bag to absorb all of the
shares that are coming their way on an
874
01:07:01,700 --> 01:07:02,720
event like this.
875
01:07:03,420 --> 01:07:06,860
All right, so that's our bag holding
right there.
876
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:14,800
analyzing this structure would probably
bring us to some conclusions
877
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:21,580
about this area right here that is being
noticed and mentioned
878
01:07:21,580 --> 01:07:24,860
here. So let's kind of see what happens
prior to that.
879
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:32,000
Definitely a lot of the buy -in by
itself, such extreme volume signature
880
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,440
from average demand signature we are
seeing
881
01:07:35,740 --> 01:07:41,740
probably an increase by what? One, two,
three, four, five, maybe times five,
882
01:07:41,860 --> 01:07:42,860
times six.
883
01:07:43,100 --> 01:07:48,200
That's a substantial increase in the
volume signature that would suggest not
884
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:53,720
only an increase in the volume, not only
the increase in the supply that comes
885
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:58,700
from weekends as they're capitulating,
but also an increase in the demand
886
01:07:58,700 --> 01:07:59,700
signature.
887
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,160
Why would the demand signature increase?
888
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,380
Well, institutions,
889
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:09,860
that are contrarian in nature, value
investors.
890
01:08:10,500 --> 01:08:17,060
I see in this point as a point of value
891
01:08:17,060 --> 01:08:21,399
just because it's deeply oversold at
this point.
892
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:26,160
And they are seeing this as a high point
of liquidity.
893
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:31,979
And because their size is humongous,
they need a lot of liquidity to get into
894
01:08:31,979 --> 01:08:34,180
the position that they want to go into.
895
01:08:34,859 --> 01:08:39,680
These are the two requirements, you
know, from WTC course that we study for
896
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:45,319
institutions. So looking at the selling
climax itself, we know that we are in a
897
01:08:45,319 --> 01:08:51,100
deeply oversold condition from the high
of 400 to the low of 200.
898
01:08:52,100 --> 01:08:57,920
That institutions are present and
therefore we might think that this could
899
01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:59,120
accumulation here.
900
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:04,330
At least, you know, a short -term
accumulation that could lead us maybe
901
01:09:04,330 --> 01:09:05,288
cover the gap.
902
01:09:05,290 --> 01:09:09,950
So therefore with this idea, then we go
through the analysis of this structure.
903
01:09:10,729 --> 01:09:15,689
We see that there is a quick recovery on
another volume signature confirming the
904
01:09:15,689 --> 01:09:22,250
bias. We're seeing that as the price
goes below twice, the
905
01:09:22,250 --> 01:09:25,950
supply that comes is not that great.
906
01:09:26,290 --> 01:09:31,609
And the last time where we have the
commitment, we have an effort to push
907
01:09:31,609 --> 01:09:32,609
price down.
908
01:09:32,750 --> 01:09:37,689
only one commitment below the support,
and then the quick reversal on the
909
01:09:37,689 --> 01:09:38,750
expanding volume signature.
910
01:09:39,010 --> 01:09:45,670
So demand is expanding, and even though
supply is expanding, it doesn't produce
911
01:09:45,670 --> 01:09:48,010
the same type of movement that we've had
before.
912
01:09:48,330 --> 01:09:50,029
It's a more laborious movement.
913
01:09:50,410 --> 01:09:55,030
And I'm sure if we would go bar by bar,
we would probably find even more
914
01:09:55,030 --> 01:10:00,390
evidence that this particular structure
was an accumulation. But let's say that
915
01:10:00,390 --> 01:10:01,530
we completely...
916
01:10:01,900 --> 01:10:08,180
missed all of that, then what would be
the test? And here is, again, this
917
01:10:08,180 --> 01:10:12,280
reference to the test question that
Simon was asking. So you guys kind of
918
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:19,240
see that, you know, during the class,
it's an ongoing discussion as
919
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,900
to how we look at different concepts,
and then we'll look at the chart, and
920
01:10:22,900 --> 01:10:24,640
we're identifying all of those concepts.
921
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:29,220
So is this a successful test with the
high volume signature?
922
01:10:31,410 --> 01:10:37,250
Well, based on our conversation with
Simon, it should be, right? Well, first
923
01:10:37,250 --> 01:10:40,710
all, this is the volume signature here.
So if we look at the latest supply,
924
01:10:40,810 --> 01:10:41,930
supply is diminishing.
925
01:10:42,890 --> 01:10:49,490
So this green bars, they refer to
926
01:10:49,490 --> 01:10:54,750
this swing right here. So we see that
the volume has diminished.
927
01:10:54,970 --> 01:10:59,370
But what if our test looks like this,
where the supply is increasing?
928
01:11:00,430 --> 01:11:01,730
And is this a test?
929
01:11:02,010 --> 01:11:03,010
Yeah, absolutely.
930
01:11:03,090 --> 01:11:05,050
It's a test of multiple things.
931
01:11:05,490 --> 01:11:10,810
It's a test of this area right here, and
it's a test of the climactic action
932
01:11:10,810 --> 01:11:14,290
that we had on this sign of strength
right here.
933
01:11:15,030 --> 01:11:19,890
And by itself, it's phase C, so
intentionally, it's a test by itself.
934
01:11:20,110 --> 01:11:21,850
But the supply has increased.
935
01:11:24,070 --> 01:11:26,670
Still high or low, supply has increased.
936
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:32,540
And it's only the recovery and the
confirmation of this recovery, together
937
01:11:32,540 --> 01:11:36,780
the structure where we're thinking we
are in phase D at this point,
938
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:43,620
the confirmation gives us an
understanding that
939
01:11:43,620 --> 01:11:46,940
that test on the increased supply
signature was successful.
940
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:51,740
All right, let's go to another one. I'm
going to go faster at this point,
941
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,140
although we are at 4 .15, so plenty of
time. That's great.
942
01:11:55,790 --> 01:11:58,490
Okay, so let's look at the next example.
943
01:11:58,850 --> 01:12:04,430
How do you know it's back holding and
not real supply?
944
01:12:05,470 --> 01:12:10,630
And we're being referred to this point
right here. So very interesting because
945
01:12:10,630 --> 01:12:13,330
contextually, it's the same situation,
right?
946
01:12:13,970 --> 01:12:17,530
Contextually, we were in the downtrend
on the previous chart.
947
01:12:17,830 --> 01:12:22,630
I've mentioned that we had a very
extreme volume signature. Now, please
948
01:12:22,630 --> 01:12:26,320
that We had the same type of volume
signature before.
949
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:31,960
I'm going to come back really quickly to
the previous chart, and I want to show
950
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:32,960
you that distinction.
951
01:12:33,460 --> 01:12:39,600
This is different relative to what we've
seen before, even this bar right here,
952
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:43,800
to what we have seen on this chart.
953
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:53,590
This is probably more of the volume
spike signature that comes
954
01:12:53,590 --> 01:12:57,470
quite regularly throughout this chart.
955
01:12:57,690 --> 01:13:03,250
So therefore, this termination of the
down move could be just intermediate.
956
01:13:03,610 --> 01:13:04,870
And we don't know yet.
957
01:13:05,090 --> 01:13:10,890
We need to confirm or deny that, right?
So what do we do? We go through the
958
01:13:10,890 --> 01:13:15,890
analysis of the trading range, and we're
trying to find some kind of definition
959
01:13:15,890 --> 01:13:16,890
of the bias.
960
01:13:17,650 --> 01:13:20,690
And we're seeing that throughout this
whole formation,
961
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:26,560
Demand could possibly push the price up.
It still finds some supply.
962
01:13:27,480 --> 01:13:30,820
And every time we're going up, supply is
present.
963
01:13:31,140 --> 01:13:37,900
So look at how supply is increasing
every time we get to the top of
964
01:13:37,900 --> 01:13:38,898
this formation.
965
01:13:38,900 --> 01:13:45,060
This is exactly the bias exercise that
we would be doing. Also, let's see where
966
01:13:45,060 --> 01:13:50,700
the price stops. So the price stops at
the areas where we have...
967
01:13:51,470 --> 01:13:57,470
a lot of movement to the downside. So
here and then here.
968
01:13:57,750 --> 01:14:03,730
So this is the value zone for
institutions where they sold.
969
01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:09,290
So this is a selling value zone which is
institutional.
970
01:14:10,930 --> 01:14:13,670
They sold on the way down right here.
971
01:14:13,970 --> 01:14:19,100
So if they sold on the way down, What we
want to look at in the information is
972
01:14:19,100 --> 01:14:25,340
every time the price goes up, does it
encounter emergence of the supply from
973
01:14:25,340 --> 01:14:26,880
institutions at that level?
974
01:14:27,100 --> 01:14:32,260
And if it does, then most likely
institutions are still selling and we
975
01:14:32,260 --> 01:14:35,180
probably in the redistribution rather
than in accumulation.
976
01:14:35,700 --> 01:14:40,040
So we could see that from this volume
signature, this volume signature right
977
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:45,320
here, this volume signature on this bar
right here. Now the price goes down.
978
01:14:46,090 --> 01:14:50,350
And we start seeing the opposite. We're
seeing now the increase in the volume
979
01:14:50,350 --> 01:14:55,590
signature as the price goes down around
this area right here.
980
01:14:57,230 --> 01:15:02,430
And this one as well. And we're starting
to think, well, what is happening here?
981
01:15:02,670 --> 01:15:04,450
All of this pushes down.
982
01:15:04,730 --> 01:15:09,750
We're not really going down that much.
And when we do, the demand signature
983
01:15:09,750 --> 01:15:15,170
increases. And that stops the price from
moving further down in a much freer.
984
01:15:15,630 --> 01:15:18,290
manner, much freer way.
985
01:15:19,390 --> 01:15:26,170
So with this change of conditions, what
we are doing is
986
01:15:26,170 --> 01:15:28,810
we are waiting for some kind of
confirmation.
987
01:15:30,810 --> 01:15:37,430
If this is a change of behavior, would
we have a confirmation that
988
01:15:37,430 --> 01:15:42,010
instead of the bias to the downside, we
might have some kind of bias to the
989
01:15:42,010 --> 01:15:43,010
upside?
990
01:15:43,350 --> 01:15:44,370
And we do.
991
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,580
There is a recovery above the support
level.
992
01:15:47,980 --> 01:15:52,320
So again, we have a temporary
commitment, which acts as a spring.
993
01:15:53,440 --> 01:15:56,340
We're coming back into the trading range
with the test.
994
01:15:57,900 --> 01:16:02,800
And off we go from here. We're expecting
that at least this causality should
995
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:07,000
produce some kind of result, some kind
of effect to us. But we're also very
996
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,620
cognizant. This is where the selling has
occurred.
997
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:11,100
So we want to see.
998
01:16:11,710 --> 01:16:17,410
would we be having some kind of increase
in selling as the price goes up?
999
01:16:17,830 --> 01:16:23,690
So we know that most likely this might
be overcome just because of this
1000
01:16:23,690 --> 01:16:24,970
substructure here.
1001
01:16:25,870 --> 01:16:31,630
And it does. And when we do see this
overcoming of this area, we want to note
1002
01:16:31,630 --> 01:16:37,790
those points of how supply is acting at
the same area.
1003
01:16:44,270 --> 01:16:51,050
so something like this and we see that
supply comes in and it's not
1004
01:16:51,050 --> 01:16:56,670
as high as it was before let's say on
this bar or this bar right here that's
1005
01:16:56,670 --> 01:17:00,850
encouraging that means that we're going
to continue up and we're most likely
1006
01:17:00,850 --> 01:17:06,090
going to overcome this resistance and
then as we do so we still want to
1007
01:17:06,090 --> 01:17:11,590
the supply and supply has increased so
that suggests that
1008
01:17:12,330 --> 01:17:17,710
Supply is still here in this area, in
this original area of the selling that
1009
01:17:17,710 --> 01:17:18,710
institutions have done.
1010
01:17:18,910 --> 01:17:22,610
And if it's going to fail, most likely
we're going to say that supply has
1011
01:17:22,610 --> 01:17:24,790
increased and we're going to continue to
the downside.
1012
01:17:25,950 --> 01:17:26,950
And it does.
1013
01:17:27,470 --> 01:17:33,690
And supply increases more on the way
down. So that confirms the bias to the
1014
01:17:33,690 --> 01:17:34,690
downside again.
1015
01:17:35,190 --> 01:17:36,190
High or low?
1016
01:17:38,250 --> 01:17:42,830
A lot of demand is coming in, and it
seems like a very aggressive push to the
1017
01:17:42,830 --> 01:17:45,290
upside. Effort is increasing
tremendously.
1018
01:17:45,750 --> 01:17:48,590
And what do we do as a result to the
upside?
1019
01:17:51,390 --> 01:17:58,370
It's diminishing because of the lower
high, and it still falls
1020
01:17:58,370 --> 01:18:04,010
into the same value zone for selling for
institutions, and therefore...
1021
01:18:05,679 --> 01:18:10,040
that suggests that if we're going to
have some kind of failure, now we're
1022
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:11,300
to have a move to the downside.
1023
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:16,500
And that failure comes on the increase
in supply somewhere here. This would be
1024
01:18:16,500 --> 01:18:18,080
really great point of entry for us.
1025
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:25,260
So as you could see, guys, and Johan,
hopefully that gives you an
1026
01:18:25,260 --> 01:18:26,260
example of...
1027
01:18:26,510 --> 01:18:31,730
how we analyze the chart here in this
class particular you know obviously a
1028
01:18:31,730 --> 01:18:38,350
above um you know wtc so uh if you're
haven't taken wtc course
1029
01:18:38,350 --> 01:18:43,130
i'm not even gonna entertain any ideas
that you're gonna come here and without
1030
01:18:43,130 --> 01:18:46,790
any preparation to do this type of
analysis a lot of people
1031
01:18:47,550 --> 01:18:53,690
have come to this class and they have
failed to be at the level that I want
1032
01:18:53,690 --> 01:18:54,830
to be as students.
1033
01:18:55,670 --> 01:19:02,570
So right now, every time somebody asks
me, could
1034
01:19:02,570 --> 01:19:07,810
I take the practicum without taking the
WTC course, I just say plainly no.
1035
01:19:09,090 --> 01:19:13,950
There's still, in my mind, there was no
single person who...
1036
01:19:14,570 --> 01:19:17,810
Kind of went through the process and I
was satisfied with that.
1037
01:19:18,870 --> 01:19:21,210
All right, let's go to the next one.
1038
01:19:21,430 --> 01:19:26,890
Really quickly again, I'm looking at the
time for 20. No, we still have plenty
1039
01:19:26,890 --> 01:19:27,608
of time.
1040
01:19:27,610 --> 01:19:31,110
Okay, so let's just see where it's going
to take us.
1041
01:19:31,910 --> 01:19:38,610
Right away, where we have the question,
don't start with the question or the
1042
01:19:38,610 --> 01:19:41,550
point where the question is. Start with
the context.
1043
01:19:41,770 --> 01:19:44,010
We had a speculative move up.
1044
01:19:44,490 --> 01:19:49,130
that had a TP formation with the
distribution on the way down. So right
1045
01:19:49,130 --> 01:19:51,890
are in the down bias.
1046
01:19:53,190 --> 01:19:55,730
We see the confirmation by the volume
signature.
1047
01:19:56,070 --> 01:20:02,850
We see how we had a test and a test to
the stopping action. And that test
1048
01:20:02,850 --> 01:20:09,250
was successful even though, and I hope
Simon's going to catch this,
1049
01:20:09,430 --> 01:20:12,210
even though this was a slightly lower
low.
1050
01:20:12,830 --> 01:20:13,970
How could this be?
1051
01:20:14,430 --> 01:20:17,130
How could the test be as structurally as
a low -low?
1052
01:20:17,370 --> 01:20:22,190
Well, the test has all of other
characteristics that are needed for us
1053
01:20:22,190 --> 01:20:28,450
confirm that this is a test by itself,
and then further action is going to
1054
01:20:28,450 --> 01:20:30,330
confirm that this test was successful.
1055
01:20:30,650 --> 01:20:34,030
So a confirmation of the test is
extremely important.
1056
01:20:34,570 --> 01:20:39,010
So now with that, we know that there is
some kind of testing that suggests the
1057
01:20:39,010 --> 01:20:43,210
rally. We want to see what kind of rally
we're going to have here. Again, the
1058
01:20:43,210 --> 01:20:44,510
logic is going to be the same.
1059
01:20:44,810 --> 01:20:50,730
And the logic as to how we analyze the
chart is going to be the same from chart
1060
01:20:50,730 --> 01:20:51,730
to chart to chart.
1061
01:20:51,970 --> 01:20:56,250
As you could see, I'm talking about the
context first. I'm not talking about the
1062
01:20:56,250 --> 01:20:57,250
specific bar.
1063
01:20:57,270 --> 01:21:02,650
Then I'm looking at the context more
local, what comes prior to the point of
1064
01:21:02,650 --> 01:21:07,370
interest. And we said that, yes, we see
a number of tests in the...
1065
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:11,580
That suggests a rally in the environment
that's still to the downside.
1066
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:16,640
If we are in the environment to the
downside, then we definitely want to,
1067
01:21:16,700 --> 01:21:21,140
identify the areas where institutions
have sold considerably.
1068
01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:29,440
And this is this bar right here. So we
want to see the price come
1069
01:21:29,440 --> 01:21:34,140
back here, and we want to understand how
would the price react around these
1070
01:21:34,140 --> 01:21:39,620
levels. So every time the price would
come back here, there would be some kind
1071
01:21:39,620 --> 01:21:40,438
of rejection.
1072
01:21:40,440 --> 01:21:41,920
And then this bar happens.
1073
01:21:42,700 --> 01:21:46,580
This is the most exciting bar on the
upside.
1074
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:52,620
Weak hands are going to be thinking that
all of the shorts are going to
1075
01:21:52,620 --> 01:21:54,800
capitulate, so the price is going to go
up.
1076
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:59,140
But still, it's too much to bear.
1077
01:22:00,079 --> 01:22:04,760
on the background, this context to the
downside is just too much.
1078
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:11,800
So we need to see whether we're gonna
have a continuation and actually we can
1079
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:18,600
get out of this selling zone by
institutions or are we gonna have a
1080
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:24,280
failure and the price is gonna come back
below this level of the support?
1081
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:25,560
And the price does.
1082
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:31,220
So at this point, we would be thinking
that this could be a point of entry for
1083
01:22:31,220 --> 01:22:33,000
us for the trade to the downside.
1084
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:38,360
Okay, so what else here?
1085
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,720
I saw this as an effort versus result
bar.
1086
01:22:42,980 --> 01:22:49,160
So are we sure we're looking at the same
bar? So this is the bar, although we
1087
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:50,940
are discussing this bar right here.
1088
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:56,980
Okay, the volume was much higher than
the red bar before and the result was
1089
01:22:56,980 --> 01:22:57,980
less.
1090
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,320
Okay, so I see. All right.
1091
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:06,600
Okay, let's look at this really quickly.
So the volume is increasing. So we're
1092
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:11,460
thinking that the effort to push the
price down is increasing.
1093
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:18,700
And yet the result is decreasing
relative to the previous bar. Why? Well,
1094
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:20,280
because we have a higher low here.
1095
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:24,980
and the closest high. So the result to
the downside is decreasing.
1096
01:23:25,500 --> 01:23:30,120
Increasing effort to push the price down
with the decreasing result on the
1097
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,200
higher low suggest a bullish behavior.
1098
01:23:33,540 --> 01:23:36,980
And here is the problem with this
analysis.
1099
01:23:39,100 --> 01:23:45,220
Everything is correct here, but because
we're expecting a bullish behavior, in
1100
01:23:45,220 --> 01:23:46,220
what timeframe?
1101
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:50,680
We're expecting the bullish behavior
coming out of this particular formation.
1102
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,380
So we are expecting some kind of rally.
1103
01:23:53,620 --> 01:23:54,640
Did it happen?
1104
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:56,120
Yes, it did.
1105
01:23:56,940 --> 01:23:58,660
The rally has happened.
1106
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,580
Your analysis was correct.
1107
01:24:02,420 --> 01:24:06,880
I'm not sure about the conclusion at
that point, but my conclusion was that
1108
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:11,140
next move is going to be a rally and the
move is going to be bullish.
1109
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:13,900
And we had a rally.
1110
01:24:14,470 --> 01:24:15,930
and that rally just failed.
1111
01:24:17,090 --> 01:24:18,090
And that's it.
1112
01:24:18,770 --> 01:24:24,950
That's all she wrote about this, right?
But again, I think that the mistake here
1113
01:24:24,950 --> 01:24:30,950
was, and the issue was, again, not
identifying the context correctly from
1114
01:24:30,950 --> 01:24:37,430
beginning, and then kind of like, let's
say, put in a short -term scenario
1115
01:24:37,430 --> 01:24:40,890
as the analysis of the overall
structure.
1116
01:24:41,370 --> 01:24:43,070
So, and that's very common.
1117
01:24:43,480 --> 01:24:50,380
you know issue in the analysis that i
did uh you know in almost each class i
1118
01:24:50,380 --> 01:24:55,160
this as a diminution supply but it was
obviously no demand so are we talking
1119
01:24:55,160 --> 01:25:01,660
about this here um it's actually the
supply signature is actually on average
1120
01:25:01,660 --> 01:25:06,280
quite high so i still would be thinking
that yes, indeed the volume signature
1121
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:12,640
diminishes, but relative to the previous
levels, we still have a lot of supply.
1122
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:17,600
So there is a lot of supply right here,
as there was a lot of supply on this bar
1123
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:18,600
right here.
1124
01:25:21,100 --> 01:25:22,100
Okay.
1125
01:25:22,460 --> 01:25:28,460
All right, so we have quite a few here
from your hand. So what I'm gonna do is,
1126
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:32,500
I'm gonna come back to this if we still
have time.
1127
01:25:33,490 --> 01:25:39,070
because these are some interesting case
studies that we still have to go through
1128
01:25:39,070 --> 01:25:40,890
as a Q &A.
1129
01:25:41,370 --> 01:25:46,730
But hopefully this is a good example for
you guys as to how do we deal with the
1130
01:25:46,730 --> 01:25:53,190
Q &A for the class or during the class.
And if we have time, let's just come
1131
01:25:53,190 --> 01:25:54,190
back to this.
1132
01:25:54,410 --> 01:25:58,450
Something relatively new or rather...
1133
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:05,020
relatively new as a message, but
relatively old as the concept that we've
1134
01:26:05,020 --> 01:26:08,740
discussing in the Wyckoff Trading Course
for quite some time.
1135
01:26:09,220 --> 01:26:10,640
Behavioral market analysis.
1136
01:26:11,060 --> 01:26:17,640
What is behavioral market analysis? This
is just my humble attempt to talk about
1137
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:24,420
the connection between the market
participant
1138
01:26:24,420 --> 01:26:27,260
behaviors and what we see on the chart.
1139
01:26:27,710 --> 01:26:34,430
It's the connection between how we
behave as people and how is that
1140
01:26:34,430 --> 01:26:38,790
being shown on the chart and how we
could understand that behavior.
1141
01:26:39,290 --> 01:26:43,690
And we are doing this through the prism
of the price cycle.
1142
01:26:43,950 --> 01:26:45,710
And we're doing it as a case study.
1143
01:26:46,230 --> 01:26:50,430
This is from yesterday's class. So I'm
only going to have two slides here from
1144
01:26:50,430 --> 01:26:54,730
yesterday's class. But these are
important slides that I wanted to show
1145
01:26:54,730 --> 01:26:56,510
guys, you know, more advanced students.
1146
01:26:57,420 --> 01:27:02,740
Because I didn't have it in the WTC in
the previous cycles, even though we've
1147
01:27:02,740 --> 01:27:07,420
talked about market participants, right?
So in price cycle, who are the market
1148
01:27:07,420 --> 01:27:08,420
participants?
1149
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:15,100
I'm looking at this as, you know, four
major forces that we have to think
1150
01:27:16,180 --> 01:27:17,820
Institutional contrarian investor.
1151
01:27:18,100 --> 01:27:19,820
Those are going to be value investors.
1152
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:24,900
These are the investors that are going
to go against the...
1153
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:29,940
most acceptable idea of the bias at this
time.
1154
01:27:30,340 --> 01:27:36,980
In the downtrend, the most acceptable
idea on the bias is that it's a
1155
01:27:37,180 --> 01:27:42,480
So their contrarian idea is going to be
to go against it. Obviously, they're
1156
01:27:42,480 --> 01:27:45,040
going to be contrarian at the point of
value.
1157
01:27:45,480 --> 01:27:48,860
And this point of value will be defined
by their methodology.
1158
01:27:49,460 --> 01:27:55,680
This point of value usually will have
some kind of climactic characteristics.
1159
01:27:57,940 --> 01:28:03,780
And therefore, this point will have a
lot of liquidity around it. Just think
1160
01:28:03,780 --> 01:28:05,860
about why liquidity is so important.
1161
01:28:06,380 --> 01:28:10,620
Well, because the value investor and
those contrary investors have huge size.
1162
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:15,420
If they wouldn't have a huge size, they
wouldn't act this way. They wouldn't be
1163
01:28:15,420 --> 01:28:21,200
able even to stop a downtrend from
further falling down on the fears of
1164
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:22,200
hands.
1165
01:28:22,300 --> 01:28:29,040
Their time horizon is extremely long.
It's from cyclical to secular
1166
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:30,240
time horizon.
1167
01:28:30,500 --> 01:28:35,140
So therefore, they could allow
themselves to... are going into the
1168
01:28:35,140 --> 01:28:42,140
early on in our early stages of
accumulation in phases A, and they are
1169
01:28:42,140 --> 01:28:46,220
that are responsible for the stopping of
the downtrend and for the initial
1170
01:28:46,220 --> 01:28:47,280
changes of character.
1171
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:49,880
What are they looking for?
1172
01:28:50,220 --> 01:28:55,160
They're looking for a long -term value.
They want to stay in the position for a
1173
01:28:55,160 --> 01:29:01,980
long time and to have a long -term
appreciation of the instrument.
1174
01:29:02,220 --> 01:29:06,820
They want to find short -term liquidity.
Those are the spots of where fear is
1175
01:29:06,820 --> 01:29:10,100
going to be very much present among the
weak hands.
1176
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:16,160
And when we say weak hands, we don't
necessarily mean retail weak hands. We
1177
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:17,920
mean institutional weak hands.
1178
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:24,980
They obviously want to operate and they
look for a contrarian sentiment where
1179
01:29:24,980 --> 01:29:29,680
everything is so bad they come in and
they establish their meaningful
1180
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:34,120
and that's what changes the behavior of
other market participants and the price
1181
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:35,120
structure itself.
1182
01:29:35,220 --> 01:29:36,560
They have some limitations.
1183
01:29:36,980 --> 01:29:41,740
They are too big of a size so they can't
move really fast. Therefore, they
1184
01:29:41,740 --> 01:29:42,760
prefer low turnover.
1185
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:44,320
of their portfolio.
1186
01:29:44,340 --> 01:29:48,620
They're also very concerned about the
tax implications and those tax
1187
01:29:48,620 --> 01:29:54,840
implications are such that they don't
want to pay extra taxes and therefore
1188
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:56,920
don't want to have short -term trades.
1189
01:29:57,480 --> 01:30:03,920
Most likely their main core positions
are going to be in cash, leveraged,
1190
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:09,800
hedged against by either leveraged
participations.
1191
01:30:11,519 --> 01:30:17,380
by leverage positions, or maybe just the
opposite, kind of like a pair or spread
1192
01:30:17,380 --> 01:30:18,380
trading.
1193
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,700
Their edge is in time horizon.
1194
01:30:21,980 --> 01:30:28,020
Just because their time horizon is so
long, some of the positions that the
1195
01:30:28,020 --> 01:30:35,020
current CEOs are holding were initiated
back then in 2008, 2009 lows,
1196
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:41,120
were reaccumulated, re -rotated in 2010,
2011, 2012,
1197
01:30:41,380 --> 01:30:48,180
throughout the volatility of 2014, 15,
and 16, and on the way up through
1198
01:30:48,180 --> 01:30:54,820
Brexit and the U .S. election in 2016
into the highs of 2017.
1199
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:59,950
So you can imagine the flexibility on
the time horizon that they have.
1200
01:31:00,510 --> 01:31:02,950
Their edge is the long -term trend.
1201
01:31:03,490 --> 01:31:09,930
They can acquire a meaningful position
as
1202
01:31:09,930 --> 01:31:16,470
the value persists at the bottom of the
downtrend, and they can hold on to this
1203
01:31:16,470 --> 01:31:23,150
through the long -term trend and
distribute this position on the way up
1204
01:31:23,150 --> 01:31:24,950
weak hands are becoming excited.
1205
01:31:25,790 --> 01:31:30,270
And from WTC course, we have two points
of excitement, right? One on the buying
1206
01:31:30,270 --> 01:31:31,610
climax, one on the upthrust.
1207
01:31:32,770 --> 01:31:38,790
This is where they love to unload those
positions into the excitement of weak
1208
01:31:38,790 --> 01:31:39,790
hands.
1209
01:31:41,230 --> 01:31:47,090
They are visible on the charts by the
extreme points of volume, by the points
1210
01:31:47,090 --> 01:31:52,130
liquidity, by the absolute and relative
trends, and by the long -term volume
1211
01:31:52,130 --> 01:31:58,380
signature. We also, in November, will be
studying in the special a long -term
1212
01:31:58,380 --> 01:32:02,020
momentum signatures.
1213
01:32:02,340 --> 01:32:06,600
Those are also going to be important for
us in identification of the COO buying
1214
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:11,780
and then just, you know, a smaller
interest buying. The examples of such
1215
01:32:11,780 --> 01:32:16,700
operators are going to be just the
definition of the composite operator
1216
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:22,320
And I've explained to you guys yesterday
that there is a big difference between
1217
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:28,600
a composite operator that Wyckoff
himself had as a definition, and I've
1218
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:32,660
you an article on that, and then other
institutions.
1219
01:32:33,140 --> 01:32:39,500
It was very interesting that Wyckoff, in
one of the issues of the ticker, the
1220
01:32:39,500 --> 01:32:45,160
magazine, the digest that he was
publishing in the early
1221
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:46,720
1900s,
1222
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:54,140
He was describing a composite operator
as an opposite composite
1223
01:32:54,140 --> 01:33:01,100
man to J .P. Morgan and Rockefeller and
other institute stock
1224
01:33:01,100 --> 01:33:07,780
operators at the time. He was talking
about a heuristic, a composite, and
1225
01:33:07,780 --> 01:33:13,160
why this is a composite operator, a
heuristic composite image.
1226
01:33:13,940 --> 01:33:20,660
I think that the best value of...
investor of our times is Warren Buffett.
1227
01:33:20,660 --> 01:33:24,880
think this is just an easier way to
imagine him, you know, who this
1228
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:25,880
is.
1229
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:32,980
Such big funds like PIMCO or BlackRock
hedge funds, those are usually all about
1230
01:33:32,980 --> 01:33:33,858
the size.
1231
01:33:33,860 --> 01:33:35,280
So you could refer to that.
1232
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:42,780
And then the second most interesting
group of market participants for us is
1233
01:33:42,780 --> 01:33:44,520
the institutional trend follower.
1234
01:33:45,070 --> 01:33:50,710
Those are usually going to be money
managers that are going to use growth
1235
01:33:50,710 --> 01:33:57,050
concept. And they would be looking for
the appreciation of prices in
1236
01:33:57,050 --> 01:34:04,030
order for them to satisfy the
limitations that they have. And
1237
01:34:04,030 --> 01:34:05,650
what limitations do they have?
1238
01:34:05,870 --> 01:34:09,050
Well, they are money managers, so the
performance matrix are extremely
1239
01:34:09,050 --> 01:34:13,080
important. And their behaviors are going
to be driven by the performance matrix
1240
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:15,180
as well as assets under management.
1241
01:34:15,440 --> 01:34:19,380
They're also very much concerned about
the low turnover of the portfolio
1242
01:34:19,380 --> 01:34:26,260
their clients are very unwilling to be
in the portfolio with high turnover.
1243
01:34:26,540 --> 01:34:29,980
And they're also concerned about tax
implications for their clients.
1244
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:33,420
They are sizable.
1245
01:34:33,930 --> 01:34:38,030
They have a big size, and they are
cyclical. They're usually going to stay
1246
01:34:38,030 --> 01:34:42,690
the position over a year, over two
years, depending on the stock.
1247
01:34:42,930 --> 01:34:47,130
And they're looking for the emergence of
the trend or a break of the trend.
1248
01:34:47,570 --> 01:34:50,250
They're looking also for the liquidity
and value.
1249
01:34:50,690 --> 01:34:55,870
Their edge is in their time horizon,
cyclical time horizon. Long -term
1250
01:34:55,990 --> 01:34:58,710
whether those are absolute or relative
trends.
1251
01:34:59,310 --> 01:35:03,670
and also in the deep knowledge as well
as the deep knowledge that the
1252
01:35:03,670 --> 01:35:04,670
investor has.
1253
01:35:05,390 --> 01:35:09,570
And those are usually going to be your
pension funds, insurance companies,
1254
01:35:09,770 --> 01:35:14,570
investment banks, mutual funds, hedge
funds, registered investment advisors.
1255
01:35:14,970 --> 01:35:20,530
They are going to operate at the
specific place in the structure.
1256
01:35:21,250 --> 01:35:27,310
They are not going to be trying to find
the value and catch the bottom just
1257
01:35:27,310 --> 01:35:33,010
because... If you're trying to catch the
value at the bottom and your
1258
01:35:33,010 --> 01:35:38,390
methodology is showing that the trend is
still not in place, this type of value
1259
01:35:38,390 --> 01:35:42,490
could fail and we could have a
continuation to the downside.
1260
01:35:42,730 --> 01:35:47,170
Or in the basket scenario, it's just
continuation of the trading range.
1261
01:35:48,170 --> 01:35:52,730
So therefore, just because their
behavior is based on the performance
1262
01:35:53,230 --> 01:35:55,970
the timing is more important.
1263
01:35:56,840 --> 01:36:02,520
And that's why all of their models and
methodologies are based on the
1264
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:06,940
identification of how the trend starts
to emerge.
1265
01:36:08,180 --> 01:36:10,820
And that's when they jump on that trend.
1266
01:36:11,180 --> 01:36:13,820
In a way, our timing is the same.
1267
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:18,380
We want to be efficient with the way how
we handle our capital.
1268
01:36:18,780 --> 01:36:23,460
So therefore, it changes of character on
the way out of the trading range where
1269
01:36:23,460 --> 01:36:24,480
we could observe...
1270
01:36:24,750 --> 01:36:29,750
Phase D was the elements of the sign of
strength rally and backing up action are
1271
01:36:29,750 --> 01:36:31,430
going to be extremely crucial to us.
1272
01:36:31,830 --> 01:36:38,690
They are going to be high probability
points of interest for us where we would
1273
01:36:38,690 --> 01:36:43,430
be establishing this position. So in a
way, we're acting as institutional trend
1274
01:36:43,430 --> 01:36:47,930
followers. And we want to stay either in
the long -term trend or we want to
1275
01:36:47,930 --> 01:36:53,330
dissect this trend into different
segments and swing trade those segments.
1276
01:36:55,310 --> 01:37:00,710
This group also will identify the
emergence of the beginning downtrend the
1277
01:37:00,710 --> 01:37:03,890
way how they identify the beginning of
the uptrend.
1278
01:37:04,210 --> 01:37:08,810
And they will be on the right side of
the trading range when that happens.
1279
01:37:09,270 --> 01:37:16,070
After the contrarian investors have
produced their selling and have sold out
1280
01:37:16,070 --> 01:37:21,410
their positions and that in effect have
stopped the price from moving further
1281
01:37:21,410 --> 01:37:22,410
up.
1282
01:37:22,730 --> 01:37:27,970
And we discuss in detail this whole
process in the Wyckoff trading course.
1283
01:37:28,190 --> 01:37:29,530
Where do they sell?
1284
01:37:29,910 --> 01:37:31,230
Why it happens?
1285
01:37:32,090 --> 01:37:33,770
And what should happen next?
1286
01:37:34,790 --> 01:37:39,570
So by the time the institutional trend
followers start selling, either their
1287
01:37:39,570 --> 01:37:45,910
positions or established in short
positions, the bias has been
1288
01:37:46,530 --> 01:37:50,370
And then we have two other groups. They
are smaller groups, professional
1289
01:37:50,370 --> 01:37:57,030
traders. and retail traders um momentum
driven and professional traders are mean
1290
01:37:57,030 --> 01:38:03,630
reversion driven as well and i've shown
you that mean reversion uh from the gold
1291
01:38:03,630 --> 01:38:09,910
trade that you know i've shown you right
so long -term campaign uh and then mean
1292
01:38:09,910 --> 01:38:14,670
reversion trade in the overbought
condition
1293
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:21,060
And that's what professional traders
would do. They would trade it like that.
1294
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:27,260
And that's why we have so much liquidity
at different spots. And that's why here
1295
01:38:27,260 --> 01:38:31,400
we're going to have an increase of the
volume signature in general and increase
1296
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:35,200
of the supply that would lead to some
kind of reaction that we're observing
1297
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:39,780
right now in gold, in bonds, because
they were oversold and so on and so
1298
01:38:44,650 --> 01:38:45,650
Size is small.
1299
01:38:45,790 --> 01:38:47,530
Their time horizon is small.
1300
01:38:47,850 --> 01:38:50,550
They are looking for the overbought,
oversold momentum.
1301
01:38:51,010 --> 01:38:56,690
For the retail traders, the breakouts
are extremely important and different
1302
01:38:56,690 --> 01:38:57,690
points of excitement.
1303
01:38:58,410 --> 01:38:59,790
There are limitations.
1304
01:39:00,510 --> 01:39:06,430
Too many trades, high commissions, short
-term taxation, lower size are
1305
01:39:06,430 --> 01:39:11,910
sentiment -driven in the retail case and
lower knowledge and lower skill.
1306
01:39:12,480 --> 01:39:16,800
These are going to be the definitions
for the retail and then professionals
1307
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:21,480
going to be somewhat better because this
is their job, but still are going to
1308
01:39:21,480 --> 01:39:28,340
have some limitations that are going to
go against them if we would
1309
01:39:28,340 --> 01:39:32,720
compare them to trend followers or
contrarian investors.
1310
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:35,680
But we do have a lot of quickness.
1311
01:39:36,190 --> 01:39:40,150
We abide different rules than other
investors.
1312
01:39:40,710 --> 01:39:46,550
We are very much momentum -driven. We
are not necessarily visible on the
1313
01:39:46,750 --> 01:39:52,350
Sometimes we do. Sometimes we'll talk
about how weak hands are pushing the
1314
01:39:52,350 --> 01:39:58,250
rally, and we could see from the
weakness that that rally is retail
1315
01:39:59,710 --> 01:40:03,730
All right, and I think that's it on
this. Let's look at the example.
1316
01:40:04,570 --> 01:40:07,150
Really quick, this is Apple daily.
1317
01:40:08,750 --> 01:40:13,350
Again, behavioral market analysis, what
kind of questions are we addressing? Who
1318
01:40:13,350 --> 01:40:14,630
are these market participants?
1319
01:40:15,110 --> 01:40:19,450
And how do we identify their presence on
the chart and subsequently trade
1320
01:40:19,450 --> 01:40:22,030
against or in harmony with them?
1321
01:40:23,490 --> 01:40:27,150
So where are the contrarian investors,
value investors?
1322
01:40:27,490 --> 01:40:29,030
Well, look at the volume signature.
1323
01:40:29,430 --> 01:40:32,030
Every time we have some kind of spike.
1324
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:36,720
in the volume signature when the price
goes down.
1325
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:40,100
What does it mean?
1326
01:40:42,420 --> 01:40:49,140
Supply increases, that pushes the price
down, but yet the
1327
01:40:49,140 --> 01:40:54,060
price stops from going down. That
suggests that there is an opposite force
1328
01:40:54,060 --> 01:40:56,680
comes and absorbs that supply.
1329
01:40:58,020 --> 01:41:02,940
And that's what happens at those points
of that are in green.
1330
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:07,820
It's the institutional contrarian
investors that are accumulating as the
1331
01:41:07,820 --> 01:41:14,220
falls. And it's very logical because
they accumulate at the point of value.
1332
01:41:14,220 --> 01:41:17,960
point of value is not going to be on the
way up for them.
1333
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:22,800
The point of value on the way up could
be for institutional trend followers.
1334
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:27,660
It could be for the momentum traders as
they expect the price to go even higher.
1335
01:41:28,430 --> 01:41:34,750
But for the value investors, the value
point is always going to be as the price
1336
01:41:34,750 --> 01:41:41,230
goes down and at the point where they
see that there is some kind of
1337
01:41:41,230 --> 01:41:47,290
for the price to go further down and
some other investors already
1338
01:41:47,290 --> 01:41:48,610
in accumulation.
1339
01:41:49,470 --> 01:41:53,910
So we could easily see where the value
investors came in and established their
1340
01:41:53,910 --> 01:41:54,910
positions.
1341
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:58,340
All right, well, that's great. They stop
the price from moving further down.
1342
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:00,100
They support the price.
1343
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:05,260
And by the way, think about this whole
uptrend support idea. We started with
1344
01:42:05,260 --> 01:42:06,260
that conversation.
1345
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:08,680
Where is the test in the uptrend
environment?
1346
01:42:09,420 --> 01:42:11,620
These are the tests of the uptrend.
1347
01:42:12,500 --> 01:42:17,540
This is how the uptrend is being
supported by that value investor.
1348
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:24,160
And then the next investor,
institutional trend follower, is going
1349
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:31,060
the price off those levels, and it's
also going to have an increased volume
1350
01:42:31,060 --> 01:42:34,600
signature. But the price is going to
behave differently with them.
1351
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:41,020
The price, just because supply has been
observed at some point by the value
1352
01:42:41,020 --> 01:42:45,960
investors, on the additional orders by
institutional trend followers, is just
1353
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:46,960
going to mark up.
1354
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:48,360
It's going to go up.
1355
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:51,780
And that's what creates the trend.
1356
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:58,580
We'll talk about this a lot in the WTC
second portion of it. I've developed the
1357
01:42:58,580 --> 01:43:02,260
trend analysis classification of the
trends, and we'll talk about, you know,
1358
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:03,620
this type of scenarios.
1359
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:05,560
How do we understand the trend?
1360
01:43:05,860 --> 01:43:10,000
And then what happens, you know, how
does the trend dissolve itself?
1361
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:14,400
Well, the same sequence happens again,
only in reverse.
1362
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:18,960
We start observing the volume signature
increases.
1363
01:43:19,930 --> 01:43:24,090
at the points where the price goes up
and then just kind of stops.
1364
01:43:24,550 --> 01:43:29,810
And then we know that this type of
volume signature increase usually will
1365
01:43:29,810 --> 01:43:33,810
suggest the presence of supply.
1366
01:43:35,090 --> 01:43:40,230
And because the price still goes up, we
know that this is a value investor
1367
01:43:40,230 --> 01:43:45,430
selling on overbought condition.
1368
01:43:45,870 --> 01:43:50,570
They've seen the price at this point as
overvalued.
1369
01:43:51,430 --> 01:43:56,490
And they are saying that there is a
minor version trade built in right here.
1370
01:43:56,490 --> 01:44:00,850
could scale out and take some profits.
And I hear a lot from institutional guys
1371
01:44:00,850 --> 01:44:05,810
that I would rather take a profit here.
I would rather secure some profitability
1372
01:44:05,810 --> 01:44:12,150
and then, you know, concern about, you
know, maybe getting back into the
1373
01:44:12,150 --> 01:44:13,330
position again.
1374
01:44:13,850 --> 01:44:15,310
That's just how they think.
1375
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:19,840
We cannot argue with the efficiency of
what they do.
1376
01:44:20,440 --> 01:44:27,380
We can only understand how they think,
how they behave, how we could see
1377
01:44:27,380 --> 01:44:33,100
this on the chart, and what it means for
us in terms of the traits that we do.
1378
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:40,240
Because like in a lot of cases, and I
was thinking a lot about this particular
1379
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:44,140
trait here on the change of character,
because I'm in...
1380
01:44:44,490 --> 01:44:51,130
two trades like that, and I was in Roku
trade on the upside, and now it's
1381
01:44:51,130 --> 01:44:54,270
changing its behavior and it's
exhibiting the same characteristics.
1382
01:44:54,850 --> 01:44:58,810
So I was thinking that one of the best
trades is actually on the change of
1383
01:44:58,810 --> 01:44:59,810
character itself.
1384
01:45:00,290 --> 01:45:03,730
And obviously I'm trading that, but I
wanna show it to you guys.
1385
01:45:04,390 --> 01:45:10,830
All right, so as the value investor
sells, and then sells again at the
1386
01:45:10,830 --> 01:45:16,280
price, what happens that finally stops
the price from further advances and then
1387
01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:21,820
the price deteriorates and breaks the
trend oh when it breaks the trend the
1388
01:45:21,820 --> 01:45:28,320
force comes into the equation it's those
institutional trend followers no longer
1389
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:35,100
they see that the uptrend is being
sustained and therefore they are
1390
01:45:35,100 --> 01:45:41,260
about their performance think about why
they are um
1391
01:45:41,770 --> 01:45:47,590
the way that they act. They're always
responsible to their clients
1392
01:45:47,590 --> 01:45:51,950
by the performance and the way how they
get that performance.
1393
01:45:52,410 --> 01:45:57,610
So they want to be quick in the changing
environment and get out of the
1394
01:45:57,610 --> 01:46:03,050
position, the one that shows some
breaches in the structure or some
1395
01:46:03,050 --> 01:46:09,240
performance. And here we see that the
price quickly goes down, creates a low,
1396
01:46:09,260 --> 01:46:12,900
low, slightly low, low, and that happens
on the increased supply signature. So
1397
01:46:12,900 --> 01:46:16,440
we know that the trend followers are
giving up their positions. They're
1398
01:46:16,440 --> 01:46:21,500
up positions later, later again, and
then we have a general capitulation.
1399
01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:28,840
This sequence of how distribution
happens on the way down
1400
01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:33,700
in the downtrend has been discussed in
the best of Wyckoff in my presentation,
1401
01:46:33,940 --> 01:46:36,300
and I also will be discussing this in
the...
1402
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:41,420
like of trading course i will introduce
those concepts also to you guys students
1403
01:46:41,420 --> 01:46:45,900
in this course as well because this is
something new that i brought in uh you
1404
01:46:45,900 --> 01:46:52,840
know as a presentation all right where
are
1405
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:59,840
we we are 10 to 5 so we have about 40
minutes okay great we're going to go
1406
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:00,880
the next exercise
1407
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:07,840
And this is where I probably would
prefer to have a volunteer if we have
1408
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:08,840
just say yes.
1409
01:47:09,480 --> 01:47:13,380
And this exercise is going to be on the
pricing volume. This is one of my
1410
01:47:13,380 --> 01:47:19,300
favorite exercises just because you have
to think a lot about, you know, how you
1411
01:47:19,300 --> 01:47:25,400
analyze the chart and what, you know,
what definitions you give to the
1412
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:26,640
price of volume signature.
1413
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:31,180
The task of this exercise is very
simple.
1414
01:47:32,490 --> 01:47:39,010
You are given a price structure of a
stock, and you also
1415
01:47:39,010 --> 01:47:41,590
have given the initial volume signature.
1416
01:47:41,930 --> 01:47:43,970
Those are your reference points.
1417
01:47:45,030 --> 01:47:49,990
I'm giving you the time reference as
well and the price reference as well,
1418
01:47:49,990 --> 01:47:51,130
those are less important.
1419
01:47:51,570 --> 01:47:57,710
The key here and the task is to
construct the volume signature
1420
01:47:57,710 --> 01:48:01,690
based on the observation of the price
action.
1421
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:08,660
So we know that as the price moves in a
specific way, that's going to be done
1422
01:48:08,660 --> 01:48:15,260
with the specific increases or decreases
or spike
1423
01:48:15,260 --> 01:48:19,040
increases volume signature.
1424
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:25,820
And therefore, we want to figure out how
that volume signature is going to look.
1425
01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:31,960
Now, it's a very valuable educational
tool for this particular class.
1426
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:37,280
Why is that? Because it just deepens
your knowledge of the relationship
1427
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:38,420
the price and volume.
1428
01:48:39,140 --> 01:48:44,200
And usually I have such a great feedback
from students after this exercise
1429
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:49,880
because they usually say, I've never
thought about thinking of volume through
1430
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:53,340
the price or thinking about the price
through volume.
1431
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:59,380
Because in the next class, the next
exercise is going to be looking at the
1432
01:48:59,380 --> 01:49:04,380
volume signature and not having the
price signature and then identifying the
1433
01:49:04,380 --> 01:49:08,360
price signature or approximating the
price signature based on the volume
1434
01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:11,700
signature. That one is even more
challenging than this.
1435
01:49:12,060 --> 01:49:17,580
So, and we're going to do this next
time. So, any volunteers say yes and
1436
01:49:17,580 --> 01:49:18,580
unmute you.
1437
01:49:20,980 --> 01:49:24,980
And again, guys, you know, like, you
know, don't stress out, you know, too
1438
01:49:24,980 --> 01:49:26,480
about, you know.
1439
01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:32,780
getting into the hot seat the key here
is just to gain as much value as
1440
01:49:32,780 --> 01:49:39,540
from the class by volunteering by um
participating by thinking
1441
01:49:39,540 --> 01:49:43,780
about these concepts and so on so forth
and i don't have a volunteer oh my gosh
1442
01:49:43,780 --> 01:49:50,220
seriously we have so many people on the
call step up step up all right let's go
1443
01:49:50,220 --> 01:49:56,000
to eric eric hey eric how you doing
1444
01:49:58,830 --> 01:49:59,830
Eric, are you there?
1445
01:50:04,270 --> 01:50:07,910
All right, so something with the
microphone really quickly.
1446
01:50:08,450 --> 01:50:12,250
So while Eric is adjusting the mic.
1447
01:50:13,470 --> 01:50:16,830
All right, so what we're gonna do here
is
1448
01:50:16,830 --> 01:50:23,710
we're gonna start looking at
1449
01:50:23,710 --> 01:50:27,490
the points of interest to us.
1450
01:50:27,930 --> 01:50:29,650
How would you analyze this?
1451
01:50:30,170 --> 01:50:33,110
How would you come up with a solution to
this exercise?
1452
01:50:35,030 --> 01:50:40,750
Obviously, by looking at the price
signature, you would notice some periods
1453
01:50:40,750 --> 01:50:45,830
volatility, diminished volatility, and
those are going to be
1454
01:50:45,830 --> 01:50:51,330
identified by the volume signature in a
specific way. Eric, are you there?
1455
01:50:54,110 --> 01:50:55,110
Hello, hello?
1456
01:50:55,410 --> 01:50:56,530
Are you there, Eric?
1457
01:50:57,930 --> 01:51:02,190
I heard something on the background, so
something worked at some point.
1458
01:51:07,950 --> 01:51:14,250
Okay, well, let's wait for a little bit
more, and I don't know, Eric, if
1459
01:51:14,250 --> 01:51:19,250
that doesn't work. Let's see if maybe
someone else would like to step in.
1460
01:51:20,170 --> 01:51:22,290
If not, then I'm just going to do it
myself.
1461
01:51:24,250 --> 01:51:25,730
Okay, Eric, yeah, so.
1462
01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:28,900
So some problems with the mic. Okay,
anyone else?
1463
01:51:31,180 --> 01:51:32,180
Anyone else?
1464
01:51:33,380 --> 01:51:35,920
Going once, going twice.
1465
01:51:36,820 --> 01:51:41,720
All right, so let me just go through
this myself, and maybe it will be
1466
01:51:43,460 --> 01:51:48,100
But I do anticipate, guys, that we're
going to have a much better
1467
01:51:48,100 --> 01:51:53,620
when the actual class is going to...
1468
01:51:54,730 --> 01:51:58,970
be without any gas or anything like
this. So I'll be on you on that.
1469
01:52:01,190 --> 01:52:06,750
All right, so as I mentioned, we're
looking for the pockets of increased
1470
01:52:06,750 --> 01:52:11,350
volatility and we're looking for the
pockets of decreased volatility.
1471
01:52:11,990 --> 01:52:16,930
We could find the increased volatility
in the way how the price behaves,
1472
01:52:16,930 --> 01:52:19,490
in the increase of the spread.
1473
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:25,600
And whenever I say increased volatility,
I actually do mean increased volatility
1474
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:31,460
on both sides. I do not refer to the
increased volatility just for the price
1475
01:52:31,460 --> 01:52:32,460
moving down.
1476
01:52:33,900 --> 01:52:37,460
But when the price moves up, we also
have increased volatility.
1477
01:52:38,340 --> 01:52:42,020
So where do we see that? On the upside
or to the downside?
1478
01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:47,480
Well, I definitely see that the reaction
like this most likely will have some
1479
01:52:47,480 --> 01:52:49,580
increased volatility.
1480
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:55,560
Next reaction will have that type of
volatility as well.
1481
01:52:56,940 --> 01:53:01,820
There is a lot of volatility that I
would be expecting on the latest two
1482
01:53:01,820 --> 01:53:05,260
reactions at the right portion of the
chart.
1483
01:53:05,540 --> 01:53:12,400
So these are the areas where most likely
we would be expecting that
1484
01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:17,620
increase of volatility to be present.
1485
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:25,580
We also probably would have smaller
pockets of volatility where, let's say,
1486
01:53:25,580 --> 01:53:31,000
the price cuts down some support or
overcomes a resistance.
1487
01:53:31,420 --> 01:53:37,500
And this is where we might have just
some increased volatility. So where are
1488
01:53:37,500 --> 01:53:40,500
those points are going to be? So maybe
something like this.
1489
01:53:41,940 --> 01:53:47,100
These are the points that we would have
that increased volatility.
1490
01:53:48,060 --> 01:53:55,000
And I just want to notice those and just
identify these points as the points
1491
01:53:55,000 --> 01:54:01,880
of interest that are going to have some
kind of either volume
1492
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:05,980
spike or some consistency in the volume
signature.
1493
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:11,720
And we want to understand that these are
the points where the volume is going to
1494
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:13,620
be the highest.
1495
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:16,740
All right, next task.
1496
01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:19,500
What do we look for next?
1497
01:54:20,620 --> 01:54:23,800
Let's look at the volatility to the
upside, right?
1498
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:26,180
So where is that?
1499
01:54:26,580 --> 01:54:31,840
Usually the breakouts are going to have
the increase of the volume signature. So
1500
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:37,800
for instance, a breakout like this, a
breakout like this. And please note that
1501
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:43,380
I'm identifying the breakouts that are
actually successful breakouts, right?
1502
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:45,380
That had some kind of...
1503
01:54:45,630 --> 01:54:49,830
you know, volume signature behind it.
1504
01:54:50,750 --> 01:54:56,930
And most likely we could say that, well,
at least at the minimum, we could
1505
01:54:56,930 --> 01:55:03,890
probably speculate that there was some
increase in the demand
1506
01:55:03,890 --> 01:55:08,230
signature during this period of time
where the, let's say the breakout has
1507
01:55:08,230 --> 01:55:13,650
happened, especially in the moments like
this, where we have like three momentum
1508
01:55:13,650 --> 01:55:14,650
bars.
1509
01:55:15,050 --> 01:55:19,990
and they are breaking out of the
meaningful formation, we're definitely
1510
01:55:19,990 --> 01:55:24,130
have the increase in the volume
signature, and we're going to have some
1511
01:55:24,130 --> 01:55:26,850
consistency of that volume signature.
1512
01:55:27,250 --> 01:55:31,410
Maybe less so with the volume signature
on the breakout.
1513
01:55:32,300 --> 01:55:34,820
breaks out, but then retraces back.
1514
01:55:35,020 --> 01:55:40,120
So still some consistency, but maybe
relative to the previous volume
1515
01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:43,600
we're going to see that the demand is
diminishing and the momentum is
1516
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:44,600
diminishing as well.
1517
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:52,700
We also want to note some kind of local
volatility to
1518
01:55:52,700 --> 01:55:56,860
the upside actions at the end of the
move.
1519
01:55:57,060 --> 01:55:59,400
So for instance, look at this.
1520
01:55:59,940 --> 01:56:01,380
Look at...
1521
01:56:04,209 --> 01:56:06,350
how this signature concludes.
1522
01:56:06,730 --> 01:56:11,570
It concludes with the run into the up
thrust or climactic action.
1523
01:56:11,930 --> 01:56:16,770
And we're kind of expecting that this
type of places are gonna have the same
1524
01:56:16,770 --> 01:56:21,470
type of volume signature where there's
some kind of increase.
1525
01:56:21,850 --> 01:56:23,650
So this one right here as well.
1526
01:56:25,930 --> 01:56:29,210
And I'm just approximating here, so
here, here.
1527
01:56:32,430 --> 01:56:35,090
A little bit more there.
1528
01:56:36,490 --> 01:56:42,330
This is an upthrust as well. And we see
how the first two, and especially this
1529
01:56:42,330 --> 01:56:44,430
third one, has a lot of supply.
1530
01:56:45,010 --> 01:56:49,210
So something like this supply is
present.
1531
01:56:50,690 --> 01:56:52,370
Okay, what else?
1532
01:56:54,030 --> 01:56:56,130
Well, we've talked about the momentum.
1533
01:56:56,590 --> 01:56:58,970
Here's the momentum as well to the
upside.
1534
01:56:59,720 --> 01:57:03,980
So here we probably going to have a
really decent demand signature.
1535
01:57:04,280 --> 01:57:09,440
It probably will be diminishing because
that demand that comes in at this low
1536
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:15,100
and on the way up, it's observing the
supply that is below this low, below
1537
01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:21,920
So the majority of the volume signature
is going to come before and then
1538
01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:27,780
at the peak, at the bottom, and then the
volume signature usually is going to
1539
01:57:28,140 --> 01:57:33,820
dry up but it's going to stay relatively
high relative to other periods just
1540
01:57:33,820 --> 01:57:38,420
because there is a lot of buying that is
happening out of the oversold area
1541
01:57:38,420 --> 01:57:45,360
right here all right what else are we
missing here um probably everything else
1542
01:57:45,360 --> 01:57:50,300
is going to be somewhat mediocre we
could definitely go into some
1543
01:57:50,300 --> 01:57:54,540
other definitions as to how we would
look at this volume signature
1544
01:57:57,150 --> 01:57:59,390
you know, in smaller chunks.
1545
01:57:59,710 --> 01:58:05,690
So for instance, if we would look more
into this area, there are a lot of
1546
01:58:05,690 --> 01:58:11,150
testing that is going on. So for
instance, a test like this, we usually
1547
01:58:11,150 --> 01:58:17,490
thinking that there is a diminishing
volume characteristic at this particular
1548
01:58:17,490 --> 01:58:21,030
moment, something like this on the test.
1549
01:58:21,630 --> 01:58:25,450
We would be thinking that this test
right here would also have diminishing
1550
01:58:25,450 --> 01:58:27,770
volume signature relative to the
previous flow.
1551
01:58:29,770 --> 01:58:35,110
A quick reaction to the upside probably
will have a demand signature behind it.
1552
01:58:35,250 --> 01:58:41,570
So together with supply and demand, the
volume should have a spike in general as
1553
01:58:41,570 --> 01:58:44,630
it had a volume spike right here as
well.
1554
01:58:45,710 --> 01:58:47,610
And then a series of tests.
1555
01:58:48,410 --> 01:58:53,370
And then those tests, obviously we're
expecting the volume signature to
1556
01:58:53,370 --> 01:58:54,370
on those tests.
1557
01:58:56,790 --> 01:59:02,630
Breakout in the volatility. Look how
this volume signature is going to
1558
01:59:02,630 --> 01:59:03,630
as well.
1559
01:59:06,090 --> 01:59:11,590
Slight increase in the supply is going
to produce a move to the downside.
1560
01:59:11,910 --> 01:59:16,700
And then some kind of... Increasing the
volume signature here just because this
1561
01:59:16,700 --> 01:59:21,060
is a stop in action. So institutions are
coming in. They have short -term value
1562
01:59:21,060 --> 01:59:27,160
within the context of the trend, and
they are stepping in and they are buyers
1563
01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:28,160
this point.
1564
01:59:28,340 --> 01:59:31,540
So that should increase our volume
signature here.
1565
01:59:32,780 --> 01:59:39,600
Breakout, slowing of the momentum,
slowing of the momentum. So some
1566
01:59:39,600 --> 01:59:42,340
characteristics, some diminishing
characteristics.
1567
01:59:45,720 --> 01:59:47,980
All right, what else is interesting
here?
1568
01:59:48,500 --> 01:59:54,320
A lot of volatility right here. So in
general, it's not that the signature
1569
01:59:54,320 --> 01:59:57,960
is gonna be very extreme or different.
1570
01:59:58,280 --> 02:00:00,440
There might be some pockets of the
increased supply.
1571
02:00:00,700 --> 02:00:07,640
But in general, it's gonna be higher
supply with volume signature
1572
02:00:07,640 --> 02:00:09,980
that's gonna be increasing definitely.
1573
02:00:10,910 --> 02:00:15,950
on the first reaction increasing on the
second reaction staying still high with
1574
02:00:15,950 --> 02:00:22,110
the demand all right so that's kind of
like a very quick view usually during
1575
02:00:22,110 --> 02:00:28,950
class we would um have more time to
discuss all of this uh in more details
1576
02:00:28,950 --> 02:00:35,750
let me grab my tools
1577
02:00:35,750 --> 02:00:37,370
here and um
1578
02:00:38,649 --> 02:00:43,910
Really quickly we'll go through this.
1579
02:00:45,910 --> 02:00:46,950
All right.
1580
02:00:49,470 --> 02:00:54,570
And we'll just analyze and post
-analyze. And this is some of the
1581
02:00:54,570 --> 02:00:57,850
things that you should be doing on your
own.
1582
02:00:58,890 --> 02:01:04,430
But I'm kind of showing you guys here as
well in the classroom as to how do we
1583
02:01:04,430 --> 02:01:07,130
post -analyze. You know, what are the
things that we would...
1584
02:01:07,440 --> 02:01:09,460
pay most attention to.
1585
02:01:13,000 --> 02:01:14,340
Okay, let me do that.
1586
02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:23,900
All right, great.
1587
02:01:25,020 --> 02:01:26,020
That was easy.
1588
02:01:37,960 --> 02:01:38,960
Here you go.
1589
02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:44,700
Here is our solution, and here is the
solution to the exercise itself.
1590
02:01:46,100 --> 02:01:52,380
So the key moments here when you post
-analyze an exercise like this is just
1591
02:01:52,380 --> 02:01:59,220
basically understand what is the main
purpose of this exercise.
1592
02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:05,920
The main purpose is to understand better
the relationship between the price and
1593
02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:06,920
the volume.
1594
02:02:06,970 --> 02:02:13,750
We want to understand that the price
structure is the reflection of the
1595
02:02:13,750 --> 02:02:20,730
or efforts of multiple market
participants, and the price
1596
02:02:20,730 --> 02:02:23,430
structure is the result of the winning
effort.
1597
02:02:24,630 --> 02:02:30,270
And we definitely could be confused a
lot with the volume signature itself,
1598
02:02:30,390 --> 02:02:34,390
because the volume signature does not
necessarily reflect the supply and
1599
02:02:34,390 --> 02:02:35,228
per se.
1600
02:02:35,230 --> 02:02:41,870
It just reflects the number of shares
that have been exchanged during this
1601
02:02:41,870 --> 02:02:48,290
particular day. It doesn't say anything
to us about, let's say, supply
1602
02:02:48,290 --> 02:02:49,530
overwhelming demand.
1603
02:02:49,890 --> 02:02:52,470
It's only when we look at the price
itself.
1604
02:02:56,320 --> 02:02:57,940
That's when we could make that
conclusion.
1605
02:02:58,780 --> 02:03:03,400
And this is one of the biggest mistakes
that beginner traders are making looking
1606
02:03:03,400 --> 02:03:05,300
at and analyzing the volume signature.
1607
02:03:05,640 --> 02:03:11,680
They see the volume increase and then
right away they're assuming that this is
1608
02:03:11,680 --> 02:03:13,700
bad. Not necessarily.
1609
02:03:14,520 --> 02:03:19,680
In a lot of cases, we will see an
increase in the volume signature that
1610
02:03:19,680 --> 02:03:24,140
a higher low, that creates the
resistance of the price to continue with
1611
02:03:24,140 --> 02:03:25,720
short -term idea to the downside.
1612
02:03:26,160 --> 02:03:31,840
And therefore, we would conclude on the
effort and the result part that demand
1613
02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:37,540
is present and not only present, it
actually observes the supply and is able
1614
02:03:37,540 --> 02:03:39,540
capable of pushing the price higher.
1615
02:03:40,700 --> 02:03:42,540
Well, let's go through our...
1616
02:03:44,860 --> 02:03:47,620
and let's see what kind of mistakes
we've made.
1617
02:03:47,860 --> 02:03:53,200
All right, so we said that pockets like
this where we're gonna have the
1618
02:03:53,200 --> 02:03:57,460
undercutting of the support or
overcoming of the resistance are usually
1619
02:03:57,460 --> 02:04:01,780
have those pockets of volatility where
the volume is gonna increase.
1620
02:04:02,480 --> 02:04:08,880
These are the pockets that are gonna be
produced
1621
02:04:08,880 --> 02:04:11,920
by the mean reversion traders.
1622
02:04:13,549 --> 02:04:18,930
They are seeing some oversold value
here, so they're going to push the
1623
02:04:19,030 --> 02:04:20,790
and that's what's going to increase the
volume signature.
1624
02:04:21,170 --> 02:04:27,790
These pockets are also going to be in
line with the value investors, and
1625
02:04:27,790 --> 02:04:31,510
seeing some short -term value and some
short -term pocket of volatility, so
1626
02:04:31,510 --> 02:04:33,970
they're going to come in and buy at this
point.
1627
02:04:35,030 --> 02:04:38,330
We're still not seeing the institutional
trend followers.
1628
02:04:38,970 --> 02:04:44,470
And they probably will come later on.
This volume signature still has a lot of
1629
02:04:44,470 --> 02:04:46,370
value investor signature behind it.
1630
02:04:46,630 --> 02:04:52,390
But also on the ways up, like on this
rally right here, or let's say on this
1631
02:04:52,390 --> 02:04:58,470
rally right here later on, we could see
how institutions are buying and they are
1632
02:04:58,470 --> 02:05:03,710
pushing the price up. So they are not
just stopping the price from the
1633
02:05:03,710 --> 02:05:05,390
reactions, but they are buying as well.
1634
02:05:05,690 --> 02:05:08,710
So it seems like our definition here was
great.
1635
02:05:09,070 --> 02:05:13,650
Then we said that on the way up, we have
some kind of momentum signature, so
1636
02:05:13,650 --> 02:05:14,650
some increases.
1637
02:05:15,230 --> 02:05:18,930
Before on the test, we're going to have
a decrease in the volume signature.
1638
02:05:19,010 --> 02:05:20,930
We've done that, so that's great.
1639
02:05:21,830 --> 02:05:22,830
Check.
1640
02:05:23,310 --> 02:05:28,970
Then we said that most likely these two
points are going to have an increased
1641
02:05:28,970 --> 02:05:29,970
volume signature.
1642
02:05:33,879 --> 02:05:39,540
Specifically, you know, and here I would
have to think a little bit more as to
1643
02:05:39,540 --> 02:05:44,280
the more interesting question is why one
higher than another?
1644
02:05:45,520 --> 02:05:52,200
So the only solution to this problem
that I see comes
1645
02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:54,900
from the definition of the higher low.
1646
02:05:56,380 --> 02:06:01,220
So with the higher low, imagine that,
you know, the same type of selling
1647
02:06:01,220 --> 02:06:07,040
here. And just because it's a higher
low, then you need more demand in order
1648
02:06:07,040 --> 02:06:10,620
you to stop the price from moving
further down now.
1649
02:06:10,980 --> 02:06:16,260
And therefore, you're going to have to
have more demand to do that and more
1650
02:06:16,260 --> 02:06:19,860
demand to stop it and to push it up at
the higher level.
1651
02:06:20,060 --> 02:06:23,480
So that could be the only explanation
that I might have for you guys.
1652
02:06:24,180 --> 02:06:28,780
We said that on the way up, just because
we're breaking out, we might have some
1653
02:06:28,780 --> 02:06:31,280
volume signature, some increase. So that
was good.
1654
02:06:31,880 --> 02:06:36,920
the test is going to have decreasing
volume signature that was great so this
1655
02:06:36,920 --> 02:06:43,280
area we went through we went through
well so that's great
1656
02:06:43,920 --> 02:06:48,860
Then we said a series of tests is
definitely going to have a much lower
1657
02:06:48,860 --> 02:06:53,460
signature, dimension signature, and we
could go into even more details. I mean,
1658
02:06:53,500 --> 02:06:58,180
we could really go into bar -by -bar
analysis. I'm not going into such
1659
02:06:58,180 --> 02:07:02,720
here just because we don't have a lot of
time, but next class we'll definitely
1660
02:07:02,720 --> 02:07:07,480
do this more. We said that... We're
going to have an increase of the
1661
02:07:07,480 --> 02:07:10,500
that's going to be associated with the
increase in demand signature.
1662
02:07:10,960 --> 02:07:11,960
That's great.
1663
02:07:11,980 --> 02:07:15,960
Then momentum is going to diminish and
we are not going to see a lot of the
1664
02:07:15,960 --> 02:07:16,919
volume signature.
1665
02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:17,960
So that's great as well.
1666
02:07:18,580 --> 02:07:22,040
Supply is going to increase specifically
on this upthrust bar.
1667
02:07:22,560 --> 02:07:26,100
And that was actually not that bar.
1668
02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:29,640
This was, I believe, this bar right
here.
1669
02:07:30,300 --> 02:07:34,880
uh relative to what we've seen here this
is still you know slightly on the high
1670
02:07:34,880 --> 02:07:40,300
end but you know this is just one
mistake that we have so that's great to
1671
02:07:40,300 --> 02:07:47,120
okay so and i'm wondering why wouldn't
it expand looks like it should
1672
02:07:47,120 --> 02:07:53,960
right the price goes up on the intraday
and then goes down like this so some
1673
02:07:53,960 --> 02:07:58,120
demand behind the move to the upside and
then some supply behind that
1674
02:07:58,970 --> 02:08:04,850
There was a slight increase, but yeah,
definitely this was a gap. So it makes
1675
02:08:04,850 --> 02:08:07,030
more sense. Plus it's below the support.
1676
02:08:07,330 --> 02:08:11,610
Yeah, I think this is a legitimate
mistake right here. I should look into
1677
02:08:12,270 --> 02:08:18,130
Okay, so, and this is how I post
analyze, right? So I just go through
1678
02:08:18,130 --> 02:08:20,610
scenario again. I want to understand
what was the mistake.
1679
02:08:21,010 --> 02:08:25,450
So I don't think that the mistake was
that we could not have that increased.
1680
02:08:26,040 --> 02:08:31,780
supply signature right here. I think
that maybe just looking at this
1681
02:08:31,780 --> 02:08:36,960
right here that would suggest some
dullness in an activity and therefore as
1682
02:08:36,960 --> 02:08:42,020
supply comes in it might increase but
maybe not to the same you know degree as
1683
02:08:42,020 --> 02:08:47,820
let's say something like this that we
have a more active supply that comes and
1684
02:08:47,820 --> 02:08:52,480
then definitely a gap in action below
the support would produce some kind of
1685
02:08:52,480 --> 02:08:53,480
increased
1686
02:08:53,650 --> 02:08:57,530
supply signature there as a stop in
action. Actually, that was the demand
1687
02:08:57,530 --> 02:08:59,610
signature right here, right, we said.
1688
02:09:00,270 --> 02:09:02,210
Okay, so that was actually fine.
1689
02:09:03,050 --> 02:09:09,010
All right, then we said increase in the
momentum, increase in the volume
1690
02:09:09,010 --> 02:09:13,790
signature, the test is gonna have the
decreased volume signature, so that's
1691
02:09:13,790 --> 02:09:18,790
great. Then that momentum, we've seen
how the momentum is diminishing, so we
1692
02:09:18,790 --> 02:09:21,750
would assume that the volume signature
is gonna go down as well.
1693
02:09:22,480 --> 02:09:27,780
and we see that and then into the
climactic intermediate climactic action
1694
02:09:27,780 --> 02:09:34,680
going to have some kind of uh search in
the volume and do we have
1695
02:09:34,680 --> 02:09:41,000
that we don't have that much that was a
search
1696
02:09:41,000 --> 02:09:47,760
that's a search as well maybe not as
pronounced uh so i'd
1697
02:09:47,760 --> 02:09:50,640
say that for me if i'm teaching myself
1698
02:09:51,770 --> 02:09:58,190
That would be a very important point,
that the demand signature here is more
1699
02:09:58,190 --> 02:10:00,550
than the demand signature at the end.
1700
02:10:01,130 --> 02:10:04,450
And it's slightly diminished, but
locally still increases.
1701
02:10:05,090 --> 02:10:06,330
All right, great.
1702
02:10:06,650 --> 02:10:10,910
Then we said we're going to have some
kind of consistency in the way how the
1703
02:10:10,910 --> 02:10:12,550
price moves here in the volume.
1704
02:10:12,890 --> 02:10:17,430
Here we're going to have the climactic
run and surge in the volume signature.
1705
02:10:17,610 --> 02:10:18,610
That's great.
1706
02:10:18,710 --> 02:10:20,130
We're going to have...
1707
02:10:20,400 --> 02:10:26,780
uh an increase in supply especially on
this bar i said one two three yes
1708
02:10:26,780 --> 02:10:33,040
awesome three bars and then here's that
search so we could see that from the
1709
02:10:33,040 --> 02:10:39,680
tail supply tail at the point of the
resistance and then um obviously
1710
02:10:39,680 --> 02:10:46,480
in the signature here uh on the supply
side then we said relatively
1711
02:10:46,480 --> 02:10:51,320
high supply, but it's probably, I mean,
relative to the previous instances, but
1712
02:10:51,320 --> 02:10:55,840
it's not going to be increasing or
anything. It's just going to be there.
1713
02:10:55,840 --> 02:11:00,960
then an increase in supply, obviously,
as we go below the point of the support.
1714
02:11:01,300 --> 02:11:06,120
And we said that the majority of the
price movement is going to be somewhere
1715
02:11:06,120 --> 02:11:10,320
here. And then the signature is going to
go down, but it's still going to be
1716
02:11:10,320 --> 02:11:14,020
relatively high to the demand that we
previously have seen.
1717
02:11:14,590 --> 02:11:16,010
And that's exactly what happens.
1718
02:11:16,650 --> 02:11:21,950
So I would say that maybe some minor
mistakes that we had here.
1719
02:11:23,050 --> 02:11:24,470
This was one.
1720
02:11:27,590 --> 02:11:29,650
What was there as well?
1721
02:11:30,350 --> 02:11:33,390
There was another one. I keep forgetting
where it is.
1722
02:11:33,670 --> 02:11:38,430
All right. But then overall, I would say
that maybe like 90 % was okay.
1723
02:11:41,210 --> 02:11:43,490
One might ask, well...
1724
02:11:44,010 --> 02:11:49,770
And Zoltan here is saying, okay,
unbelievable, great, wow, so cool, man.
1725
02:11:49,770 --> 02:11:55,310
know, in my question, in your minds,
your question should be, how did you do
1726
02:11:55,310 --> 02:11:56,310
that?
1727
02:11:57,570 --> 02:12:00,690
Did you look at the chart before? Well,
yeah, of course, I've created the
1728
02:12:00,690 --> 02:12:05,050
exercise. But you put a chart like this
in front of me.
1729
02:12:06,250 --> 02:12:10,830
And I'm probably going to do the same
way. Maybe I'm not going to be as good
1730
02:12:10,830 --> 02:12:15,730
because I've seen this chart and I did
not necessarily pay attention to the
1731
02:12:15,730 --> 02:12:16,950
volume signature that much.
1732
02:12:17,230 --> 02:12:22,610
But the principles of analyzing and
constructing the chart like this is
1733
02:12:22,610 --> 02:12:23,610
be the same.
1734
02:12:23,730 --> 02:12:28,230
I look at the historical references
first.
1735
02:12:29,070 --> 02:12:34,590
and I look through the price signature,
and I know that the price will behave in
1736
02:12:34,590 --> 02:12:41,390
a specific way to the efforts that are
being exhibited by institutions.
1737
02:12:42,090 --> 02:12:48,590
As they buy and they sell, the effort
increases, the effort decreases, and
1738
02:12:48,590 --> 02:12:55,190
produces specific price signature. I
want you guys to know how to
1739
02:12:55,190 --> 02:12:56,850
decipher that relationship.
1740
02:12:58,700 --> 02:13:02,820
It's extremely important for us white
collar fans to know this stuff.
1741
02:13:03,560 --> 02:13:05,180
So we will be practicing.
1742
02:13:05,740 --> 02:13:09,920
Specifically next class, I'm going to
give you a different exercise, as I
1743
02:13:09,920 --> 02:13:15,540
mentioned. I'm going to give you the
exercise where the volume signature is
1744
02:13:15,540 --> 02:13:20,540
present, but the price is not present.
And you will have to construct the price
1745
02:13:20,540 --> 02:13:25,980
signature. That's going to be a lot of
fun as well. And hopefully you guys have
1746
02:13:25,980 --> 02:13:26,980
enjoyed this.
1747
02:13:27,650 --> 02:13:30,590
All right, let's see what else we've
got.
1748
02:13:32,290 --> 02:13:34,050
Let's vote a little bit.
1749
02:13:34,710 --> 02:13:37,970
I could show you some of my recent
trades.
1750
02:13:38,690 --> 02:13:42,610
That's vote number one, and we could
come back to some of the questions,
1751
02:13:42,670 --> 02:13:43,670
that you had.
1752
02:13:43,930 --> 02:13:49,470
So let me know what you guys would like
to do really quick.
1753
02:13:52,010 --> 02:13:53,530
Then we'll go from there.
1754
02:13:57,759 --> 02:13:59,200
Trade, trades, okay.
1755
02:14:00,120 --> 02:14:03,400
Yeah, I kind of suspected that that's
what it's going to be.
1756
02:14:04,380 --> 02:14:07,300
Yeah, recent trades. Okay, great.
1757
02:14:10,240 --> 02:14:15,540
Okay, so I'm going to show you the
setups, and then I'm going to show you
1758
02:14:15,540 --> 02:14:17,860
where we are.
1759
02:14:18,400 --> 02:14:23,240
This is a little bit outdated. As of
yesterday, I was showing this at WTC.
1760
02:14:24,020 --> 02:14:26,280
So as I mentioned, a gold trade.
1761
02:14:26,590 --> 02:14:28,990
that I'm in on both sides.
1762
02:14:29,250 --> 02:14:35,330
Long -term campaign has been established
in April, May.
1763
02:14:36,390 --> 02:14:41,050
I was not hiding this. I was talking
about this in WMD and all of the
1764
02:14:41,050 --> 02:14:43,350
even gave a presentation on StockCharts
.com.
1765
02:14:43,570 --> 02:14:49,030
You could find the timestamp. That
presentation was on April 4th.
1766
02:14:49,630 --> 02:14:53,070
One of the things, and I'll discuss this
with you guys.
1767
02:14:53,450 --> 02:14:57,770
We all have tendencies as traders and
investors of doing things in a specific
1768
02:14:57,770 --> 02:15:00,470
way. I have those tendencies as well.
1769
02:15:00,710 --> 02:15:07,510
One of my tendencies is that I observe
the change of behavior earlier in
1770
02:15:07,510 --> 02:15:10,770
phases, in late phase B, and act on
that.
1771
02:15:11,050 --> 02:15:15,870
So I'm actively working in my analysis
and execution on correcting this
1772
02:15:16,130 --> 02:15:20,070
right? So my first position was here,
and I had to wait for a whole month.
1773
02:15:20,370 --> 02:15:24,370
And even though this is a long -term
campaign, totally acceptable to come in
1774
02:15:24,370 --> 02:15:29,150
into that like that because you're
probing, probing, and then scaling in,
1775
02:15:29,190 --> 02:15:33,050
scaling in, creating a meaningful
position.
1776
02:15:33,750 --> 02:15:36,570
And Eric is asking, right too early?
1777
02:15:37,390 --> 02:15:43,330
A little bit too early, and I'm
describing my tendency here, Eric, so
1778
02:15:43,330 --> 02:15:47,450
little bit too early, but at the same
time, I'm stating that for the long
1779
02:15:47,450 --> 02:15:51,490
campaign, when you put on the first
probe, you should be okay.
1780
02:15:52,040 --> 02:15:58,300
Your risk should not concern you that
much if the price slightly goes below
1781
02:15:58,300 --> 02:16:00,900
a sprint situation below the area of the
support.
1782
02:16:01,180 --> 02:16:02,580
You should account for that.
1783
02:16:03,000 --> 02:16:07,900
So therefore, when out of this sprint,
you have other situations and other
1784
02:16:07,900 --> 02:16:11,980
reversals, then you can add to the
position, and that's how you start
1785
02:16:11,980 --> 02:16:12,978
your size.
1786
02:16:12,980 --> 02:16:17,480
So you could go, let's say, 25 basis
points, 25, 25, 25.
1787
02:16:17,880 --> 02:16:20,420
You're already in the position, and then
you could...
1788
02:16:20,800 --> 02:16:27,720
uh you know uh at on the way up uh here
at the area of the overbought
1789
02:16:27,720 --> 02:16:32,000
condition and by the way this was also a
really good intermediate call you know
1790
02:16:32,000 --> 02:16:36,020
a lot of people were thinking that this
was already a distribution and we're
1791
02:16:36,020 --> 02:16:40,020
going to have a more of the trading
range there is a lot of absorption here
1792
02:16:40,020 --> 02:16:45,299
way how all of those probes of supply
probes are working we'll talk about this
1793
02:16:45,299 --> 02:16:46,299
as well
1794
02:16:48,430 --> 02:16:53,730
Out of the overbought condition, point
of entry right here on the intraday, I'm
1795
02:16:53,730 --> 02:16:58,190
opening the position after the upthrust
and after the test of the upthrust.
1796
02:16:58,430 --> 02:17:00,790
And I'm thinking that this is our phase
C.
1797
02:17:02,170 --> 02:17:09,049
I'm adding to the position right here
and then some bad news come
1798
02:17:09,049 --> 02:17:14,590
on the trade that pushes the price up.
But look how it's being pushed.
1799
02:17:16,110 --> 02:17:21,430
The demand that pushes it is lower than
on the previous rally. That's number
1800
02:17:21,430 --> 02:17:22,429
one.
1801
02:17:22,430 --> 02:17:28,670
The result is less as well. That's
number two. And then the test
1802
02:17:28,670 --> 02:17:34,790
of that attempt to go up. And then
again, guys, because you are more
1803
02:17:34,790 --> 02:17:40,389
here, I'm going to show you a different
test, right? So if this was the attempt
1804
02:17:40,389 --> 02:17:44,889
to go up, this could be considered a
test that happens.
1805
02:17:45,469 --> 02:17:50,990
as the higher high, but on the lower
demand signature.
1806
02:17:51,370 --> 02:17:53,370
So we're seeing how demand has
diminished.
1807
02:17:53,650 --> 02:17:58,150
And then we have a more regular test
that is the lower high test.
1808
02:17:58,790 --> 02:18:05,030
And here we see, this is just a
different session, so you can't really
1809
02:18:05,030 --> 02:18:11,170
it in the correct way, but still, this
would be our
1810
02:18:11,170 --> 02:18:14,430
more legitimate confirmation.
1811
02:18:17,490 --> 02:18:22,170
So currently, let me just quickly see
where the futures are.
1812
02:18:23,270 --> 02:18:25,770
So we are at 1496.
1813
02:18:27,730 --> 02:18:33,610
So we are somewhere here. Today was a
good day, but we had some kind of
1814
02:18:33,610 --> 02:18:37,790
laborious movement to the downside. My
objective is somewhere here, 1480.
1815
02:18:38,790 --> 02:18:44,490
So as we were moving laboriously, I
started thinking that we might actually
1816
02:18:44,969 --> 02:18:50,110
uh a rally here into the area of the
resistance so i started to scale out i
1817
02:18:50,110 --> 02:18:55,889
still have a position um in or in gold
um a hedge position in gold and i still
1818
02:18:55,889 --> 02:19:02,530
have my long -term buy in gold so my
goal here is just to uh
1819
02:19:02,530 --> 02:19:09,410
get my hedge out uh and hedge work
nicely
1820
02:19:09,410 --> 02:19:12,910
because my equity did not go down
drastically
1821
02:19:13,680 --> 02:19:18,940
on this move to the downside, and then
just to recover from here, and even
1822
02:19:18,940 --> 02:19:22,900
consider adding on to the position on a
more meaningful reaction.
1823
02:19:23,480 --> 02:19:25,700
So this is where we are with that.
1824
02:19:26,340 --> 02:19:32,500
And look at some of the PNFs here. So
there are quite a few objectives here
1825
02:19:32,500 --> 02:19:37,400
you could find that are much lower than
what I'm looking for. I'm looking for
1826
02:19:37,400 --> 02:19:40,459
the first objective, like 138 .88.
1827
02:19:41,430 --> 02:19:44,110
on the GLD, this is not the futures.
1828
02:19:44,730 --> 02:19:46,490
So we'll see how that's gonna go.
1829
02:19:46,889 --> 02:19:50,770
All right, next one, TLT, same concept.
1830
02:19:51,510 --> 02:19:58,050
I mean, reversion trade, every time we
have this type of momentum run in TLT,
1831
02:19:58,270 --> 02:19:59,910
how does it end up?
1832
02:20:02,210 --> 02:20:09,050
It ends up as a pronounced low.
1833
02:20:09,870 --> 02:20:12,870
in the markets and then a subsequent
move up.
1834
02:20:13,510 --> 02:20:19,490
And that's why I'm bullish on the market
just based on this chart alone.
1835
02:20:20,430 --> 02:20:27,410
We just had a speculative run in TLT
where the bonds are more attractive
1836
02:20:27,410 --> 02:20:34,410
to conservative investor from the point
of view of the appreciation rather than
1837
02:20:34,410 --> 02:20:35,410
the...
1838
02:20:38,510 --> 02:20:42,810
the interest that is being collected on
it.
1839
02:20:43,510 --> 02:20:50,450
So therefore, these times in the markets
are usually going
1840
02:20:50,450 --> 02:20:57,070
to bring us to a significant oversold
condition in the markets, which we just
1841
02:20:57,070 --> 02:21:02,430
recently had. It was not as significant
as, let's say, a shakeout, but still it
1842
02:21:02,430 --> 02:21:03,550
had a lot of volatility.
1843
02:21:04,050 --> 02:21:07,510
It was quite difficult to trade that
volatility. I was trading volatility.
1844
02:21:08,400 --> 02:21:15,400
I would say that I was slightly
profitable rather than
1845
02:21:15,400 --> 02:21:16,840
really profitable.
1846
02:21:17,300 --> 02:21:24,060
This gold trade and TLT trade actually
are quite
1847
02:21:24,060 --> 02:21:26,380
profitable at this point of time.
1848
02:21:29,860 --> 02:21:35,920
Okay, and let's see at this. Okay, so
TLT right now at 141.
1849
02:21:36,840 --> 02:21:43,840
So we hit our first objective, and today
I scaled out some of
1850
02:21:43,840 --> 02:21:47,840
the position, and I'm just keeping some
to see if there's going to be some kind
1851
02:21:47,840 --> 02:21:52,520
of continuation of this move. The last
move to the upside was pure speculation.
1852
02:21:52,620 --> 02:21:54,940
We could even see this from the volume
signature.
1853
02:21:55,880 --> 02:21:59,560
There is none of this before that is
happening.
1854
02:22:00,040 --> 02:22:03,620
And look at how the price behaves,
overthrows.
1855
02:22:04,910 --> 02:22:10,450
into the old bought condition and my
point of entry was right here on this
1856
02:22:12,370 --> 02:22:16,770
Look at what happens next, kind of like
the same as with the gold. There is a
1857
02:22:16,770 --> 02:22:23,370
lot of effort after demand has decreased
and supply has increased
1858
02:22:23,370 --> 02:22:28,010
to push the price up and yet what do we
do?
1859
02:22:29,770 --> 02:22:33,130
We can't even touch the buying climax
high.
1860
02:22:33,680 --> 02:22:37,740
and we can't overcome the upthrust that
comes before.
1861
02:22:41,060 --> 02:22:45,880
So it starts acting as a test, and then
the next test is even better because
1862
02:22:45,880 --> 02:22:47,400
it's on diminishing volume signature.
1863
02:22:48,840 --> 02:22:54,800
I had to wait here a little bit, and
then everything was fine. So we are at
1864
02:22:54,800 --> 02:22:55,960
today here.
1865
02:22:56,400 --> 02:22:59,680
So this is actually both of the trays
are...
1866
02:23:00,840 --> 02:23:03,740
I don't have a TLT as a long -term
campaign.
1867
02:23:04,000 --> 02:23:05,000
I didn't have that.
1868
02:23:05,340 --> 02:23:06,540
Gold I do.
1869
02:23:06,800 --> 02:23:12,720
So TLT is a pure directional trade, but
I'm trading it as a mean reversion
1870
02:23:12,720 --> 02:23:19,320
trade. And the only way of how this
trade was created is from the
1871
02:23:19,320 --> 02:23:24,920
understanding of the overbought
condition, understanding how the
1872
02:23:24,920 --> 02:23:27,820
are behaving, understanding how the...
1873
02:23:28,250 --> 02:23:32,750
Are the market participants going to
behave in a speculative way? How that is
1874
02:23:32,750 --> 02:23:37,330
going to be shown on the chart in
different ways, whether climactic way,
1875
02:23:37,470 --> 02:23:42,970
overbought way, test and action way,
increase of the supply, demission,
1876
02:23:42,970 --> 02:23:47,150
way. You know, there are so many ways of
how we could do this.
1877
02:23:47,530 --> 02:23:53,070
But the understanding of that and the
practice that has been done before leads
1878
02:23:53,070 --> 02:23:54,310
to trades like this.
1879
02:23:55,340 --> 02:23:57,540
And those are really profitable trades.
1880
02:23:57,880 --> 02:24:04,780
Both the TLT trade and the gold trade
have been really
1881
02:24:04,780 --> 02:24:09,440
profitable, actually on both sides, on
the upside and now on the downside.
1882
02:24:09,920 --> 02:24:15,140
All right, 526. I think that we're going
to stop here.
1883
02:24:16,060 --> 02:24:19,980
Lots of material that we've covered
today, guys.
1884
02:24:20,510 --> 02:24:23,630
Let me see if you have any questions at
this point.
1885
02:24:23,870 --> 02:24:26,690
So write those down in the question box.
1886
02:24:27,490 --> 02:24:30,470
Zoltan is saying, I have learned so
much. Well, great.
1887
02:24:31,090 --> 02:24:33,310
Obviously, that's what we want.
1888
02:24:33,570 --> 02:24:38,690
So the key right now is to continue this
education, Zoltan, right? So this is
1889
02:24:38,690 --> 02:24:45,510
just one class, you know, and obviously,
you know, the examples that I've shown
1890
02:24:45,510 --> 02:24:48,950
are just examples of the work that we do
here in this class.
1891
02:24:50,140 --> 02:24:56,860
So I would definitely recommend this for
those of you who want
1892
02:24:56,860 --> 02:25:02,420
to have a very in -depth knowledge and
in -depth skill.
1893
02:25:02,660 --> 02:25:07,400
As you could see, both the knowledge is
going to be there in this class and the
1894
02:25:07,400 --> 02:25:10,800
skill building, as we're going to do
this through the exercises.
1895
02:25:11,800 --> 02:25:15,580
And for those of you who would like to
take this class, but...
1896
02:25:15,930 --> 02:25:20,850
you have not taken the Wyckoff Trading
Course, which is the prerequisite,
1897
02:25:20,850 --> 02:25:24,970
do so. And we just started. We just had
one session yesterday.
1898
02:25:25,630 --> 02:25:32,410
So you still are welcome to sign for the
WTC course. So I would advise you
1899
02:25:32,410 --> 02:25:33,450
guys to do that.
1900
02:25:33,850 --> 02:25:38,770
And with that, thank you guys so much. I
don't see any more questions. I see
1901
02:25:38,770 --> 02:25:44,190
only comments of thanks. And I thank you
guys for being here.
1902
02:25:44,910 --> 02:25:51,150
and for going through this class with me
and hope to see you either in this
1903
02:25:51,150 --> 02:25:52,750
class or in the WTC.
1904
02:25:52,950 --> 02:25:55,170
Thank you so much and bye -bye.
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