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Fashion model.
Until they told me that I always looked like I'd just gotten out of bed.
Of course, I always did look like I'd just gotten out of bed because I had
gotten out of bed.
Plus the fact that they said I didn't have chic hair, whatever that means.
So I went to their special beauty salon to get my hair straightened.
In a half an hour, I had two bald spots, one here and one here, no hair at all,
stubble. When I ran my head across the top of my scalp, it felt like burned
grass.
You know, the scorched earth policy in Vietnam?
Well, that was my head, scorched earth policy.
So I went back and said, my dear Mr.
Caruso, you will have to give me a wig. I simply can't work with a scorched
earth head.
And he said, oh, making trouble again. All you models, all you do is make
trouble, trouble. So I said, well, I guess I'll have to sue you.
So I sued him.
That was many years ago, and it still hasn't come to court due to the fact
I was arrested for contempt of court.
That's when I was jaywalking.
And I had about five tickets, adding up to about $100, and they finally kept
coming to get me, so I went.
And I was standing there in line, and all these other people were getting in
line ahead of me, plunking their money down.
And this young lawyer came up and said, that's the assistant DA.
That's why he can get his money down first.
just because you don't have any influence in the courts, they won't let
your money down. I mean, can you imagine not taking your money?
This is after sending me to ten different rooms on three different days
I was going to the wrong room, wrong time. So, finally, I raised a complete
ruckus in the court, and I said, Your Honor, as he sat there with the American
flag behind him, bigger than life, there you sit with the American flag, bigger
than life.
Well, you're taking bribes from the assistant district attorney. Now, just
because I don't happen to have any pull in this part of the country, there's no
reason why I shouldn't be able to get out of here. My father is a lawyer, and
know all about that legal hypocrisy that goes on. You should be ashamed. He
said, young lady, stay right there.
I'm sending two policemen, and I'm putting you right in jail, contempt of
And I looked there, and I saw these two journalists. cells right down the hall
and I thought I really should go to jail for the principle of the thing. But it
looked so grimy.
I just couldn't face it. I thought, God, how long will I rot in jail?
So another lawyer came up and said, look, this is a very humane judge. Just
apologize to him and everything will be all right.
So I sat down and started to giggle and I couldn't stop giggling.
I just sat and giggled and giggled and giggled. Well, all these little, you
know, petty thieves came and went, murderers, adulterers, you know, cases
and went.
Finally, and they had a cop on either side of me, and I looked around and I
the guns. So I pulled out my sketch pad and I started drawing guns and holsters
and belts and buckles and guns and holsters.
And they loved the drawings, and I was passing drawings out to them of guns and
holsters.
I was really crying by this time, but when I stopped crying, I started
It was a combination of laughing and crying, and I said, Your Honor, and then
I'd giggle. I said, You know, I'm really terribly sorry. I really didn't mean to
be rude to you. He said, All right, but don't let it happen again.
I'll let you go this time, but just don't let it happen again. This is a
of justice, a court of law. We have to have order in here.
So I went away, back to my modeling job. Of course, I was jaywalking to try to
get there on time. They send you one place at 9, one place at 9 .30, one
at 10 o 'clock.
So finally, I decided I just had enough of it.
And I went way up north to the St. Lawrence River, and then they started
me from the magazines. They kept calling and saying, Oh, we think you're just
divine. We'd like to do a lot.
We think you're divine.
We'd like you to work with Pam.
We'd like you to work with Alva John.
Come right down.
So I came back down again.
And the photographer who was doing the job, I had had a fight with before I
left. So he wasn't very happy to see me.
And it was the third retake. And they had already done Angela Lansbury.
Who else was popular at the time?
A Michelle Morgan, that's right. They did it on her fur coat. Well, they did
on me. Oh, God, did it look awful.
As I walked into the studio, the assistant editor was looking at the
and she said, can't we do something with her nose right here? I mean, that won't
do at all.
I was eavesdropping.
She said, well, the nose doesn't look too bad in this one. Not only did I not
have chic hair, my dear, but I did not even have a chic nose.
Then she got into my neck.
That bull neck.
Can't we cut that down? Can't we do a little retouching? I always thought I
a not bad neck. I mean, I certainly wouldn't call it a bull neck.
So she got a hold of me later and said, No, my dear.
You know, if you're really serious about this, I think that you should go to the
museum, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, and study paintings of women.
From every age. And take all the magazines and study everything. Learn
Learn makeup. Learn style.
I mean it with a hope.
If Cleopatra's nose was an inch shorter, it would have changed the course of
history.
And I said to her, well, perhaps I should have the nose changed.
And she said, oh, oh, my dear, oh,
oh, why, that's your greatest asset.
Don't you do a thing to your nose.
And then I said, well, what about the hair?
Perhaps a bit of straightening. Oh, don't change a thing. Just go to the
and study women.
So.
I didn't think that I needed to spend any more time in the museum. I spent
of my life in the museum so far, and I said, well, I guess I just won't work
anymore. Forget it. I'll do something else.
I can't think of anything else to say.
Then, and I'll get half the money. So I got not only one, but I
found two.
And I got them both down.
And they, both of them, only spent a week at it and managed to find
very wealthy men and went off to travel the world while I was left holding the
bag. Next thing you know, I had my mother down saying, well, I don't think
your sister is really teaching school.
in Nui at the nun school because I got a postcard from her from Africa.
You know how I knew it was from Africa. It had nothing written on it, just
nothing. And I found up in the upper left -hand corner 26 degrees latitude.
So I looked it up in the encyclopedia and it said 26 degrees latitude is
African. Now what is she doing in Africa? Who is supporting her? I'd like
know.
So I said, well, perhaps she has a job working on a steamer. You know, maybe
she's a chef or something. She said, tell me that.
I know all about you girls. I know all about you. You're no good. You're no
good. Who's supporting her in Africa?
26 degrees latitude.
Meanwhile, the next one.
Now, then your mother said something about hippie. You're a hippie or
Oh, she said, yeah, you're a hippie, right? And I said, no, I was too old to
a hippie.
Yeah, but then you told her off and it was a beautiful scene. Oh, yes, yes,
yes, yes. She said, hmm.
Making any money at what you're doing?
Painting. Anybody buy them?
Making any money?
I said, why don't you work, work, work?
I said, why don't you work? When was the last time you worked?
I said, I've worked all my life, all my life.
I said, now, my dear mother, my body's been taking care of you for the past 30
years.
Right, when you were my age, you were well ensconced with your minks and
diamonds. How is this, you?
Who's taking care of me? Monster.
Is all you can think about is money? Money? Money?
Money? Do you ever have another thought in your whole head but money?
And she said, why don't you leave? Why don't you get out of here?
Wearing this big fantastic club chair, it's pootie painted on the wall,
White built it, gold gilt, all the, you know, the rejects from the 400, you
know, the 400s, grandmothers sitting around in their black taffeta dresses
white doorly lace collars.
sitting around table to table, and my father's saying, Watch it. I know people
in here. Watch it. Tone it down. Tone it down. Be careful.
I know people. I know people. And I said, Well, I don't give a fuck who you
know. They don't know you.
You could be just anybody. Meanwhile, over in the other corner of the room
sits the one -legged millionaire from Switzerland.
whom my father put on to us, my dear, calling us whores. Who is
doing the pimping?
Who's doing the pimping?
Well, he called us up about a year ago and said, girls, you must come and have
dinner with me.
I'm at the club, and there's this wonderful man I just met. He owns half
banks in Switzerland.
So we went, and he said to us, now, be careful.
He's in the bar, and he's coming out.
He's got a wooden leg. Don't mention his limp.
I said, really?
Don't we see Bowery buns every day?
Don't worry, we're sophisticated.
We've seen a limp here, a limp there.
Canes, they're nothing new. We won't say a word.
So, the four of us went to dinner.
And here is...
One leg and with one hand under the table and one sister and one hand on me.
Squeeze, squeeze.
Now my father's sitting over there thinking, oh yes, I have a ranch too. I
you call that a ranch?
400 sheep that all died of tapeworm?
After you got the sheep experts in Canada down to take care of them, who
to rape me, by the way.
You call that a ranch? A scraggly little sheep? And he said, I'm not paying any
attention to her. She thinks she could run everything better than I could.
like nothing better than to have my money and run the whole show. And I
you're damn right.
I'd sure run it a hell of a lot better than you do.
I'm kidding you. He took out his plane schedule for the weekend to Texas and
asked my other sister if she'd like to take a little trip to Texas with him to
his ranch.
And I was getting a little jealous by this time. I mean, I would have liked to
go to Texas. It was awfully hot in New York. Of course, I suppose it was hotter
in Texas.
But anyway, there were all those black Angus and all those goldfish ponds and
all those ranches and everything else. And he was taking Jeanette off to the
ranch.
He shoved it back in his pocket just as my father came back to the table.
His schedule,
his plane schedule, you know, should we go TWA or Eastern or how should we go,
and dropped us off home. And the next week, oh, my father calls up and says,
well, have you seen Wooden Leg?
Your father called him up? No, he called us up. Well, see, Wooden Leg actually
did come to dinner, but we didn't have any furniture.
or any drugs or any food or anything.
So he went out and bought Slim Jim smoked sausages for us to eat for
he just seemed so ill at ease there. We had one wicker chair and a stool with
his wooden leg up on the stool and the wicker chair not wanting us to know it
was wooden.
And everything was just so tense that I left. I went out and just left. I called
up somebody and said, I can't take it. I'm coming down to your house.
So I called my sister.
I don't know what happened. He wanted me to comb my hair a different way.
So I went and got a hairbrush and started combing. No, she wouldn't get
hairbrush and comb her hair. She said, I don't want to comb my hair. I'll just
spend all day in the beauty parlor. And he said, if you can't do such a little
thing for me, just comb your hair differently. I don't know. And he
I'm so upset.
So I said, well, don't worry, it was probably the bare floors, the soot on
floors, no furniture and no food. He thinks, what kind of a family do they
from? After all, all this talk about ranches? My dear, somebody's crazy in
family. Who is it?
So I called my father and I said, Dad, we just lost a customer.
Why, why, what happened, what happened, what happened? I thought he'd like one
of you girls. I thought he'd like one of you, like your little myself.
So I said, well, he just... disappeared into the clear blue.
You know, we don't have any furniture.
He said, oh, I'll send a rug right down, right down. So the next day down came
wall to wall gold carpeting.
Who, from your father? Yes, from my father. So I thought, well, now what we
should do is call him up every week and say we lost another millionaire and
perhaps we'd get furniture and stereo record players and television sets and
everything. So I started calling.
The next week I said, another one just got away.
Dad, you've got to do something about this. So he said, Well, I mean, when
you've got a rug, what else do you need? I mean, I don't have a rug. I don't sit
on the rug.
I said, well, look, I mean, how would you like to walk into a house and only
find a rug?
He said, oh, all right, I'll send you down a couch.
Well, by the end of six months, we had the whole place furnished.
Not a millionaire in sight, though.
Finally, the millionaire came back, and he called me, and he said, But I must
tell you that every time he reappeared on the scene, he had a chain in
Switzerland. And he said, look at my scar on my scar. Then he was in a car
crash. He not only carried the photograph of the woman who hit him over
with a chain because he wouldn't fuck her, but he also carried a photograph of
the Jaguar he cracked up in.
And then the third time he came, it was another accident. Someone beat him up.
And I said, you don't need a wife. You need a bodyguard and a nurse.
Somebody to push the wheelchair.
Well, this is just getting back to the story about the postcard from Morocco.
Are you still running?
Well, we were sitting there talking about the postcard from Morocco and the
Metropolitan Club.
There I looked up and there was a girl I had known for years with a wooden leg
man.
And I said, oh, what a small world. They all said they all know each other. And
my mother said, I saw her sitting there when I walked in, in the corner chair,
and I said, she doesn't look like she belongs here.
I bet she's meeting that Swissman.
She thinks he's ESP. The trouble is, she does.
My mother, and she said, I had never met the Swissman, but I knew that's who she
was here to meet.
And in he walked, and I knew it was him from his limp. And sure enough, your
father said, Oh, how are you?
And then she went on and on again about, I knew she'd have to be a friend of you
girls.
So the Swissman... She?
Yes, the girl who was having a date with the wooden leg guy last night.
And the wooden leg guy was the one who came and ran off because we didn't have
any rugs.
Is he still around?
Oh, yes, he's still around.
Maybe we should do a little... I introduced him to Katrina, and he gave
$300 guitar.
And then he kept calling me up, telling me how cold she was.
Well, here's what he would do. He would call up, and he would say, My darling.
You know, he'd never even held his hand.
Let alone give him a kiss. Let alone go to bed. He'd say, My darling.
I am so lonely here.
I want to see you. Please come have dinner with me. And I said, I thought
were in love with my sister. And he said, no, it was always you I loved. But
thought that you were in love with that other man when I met you. Your sister,
she is cold. It was always you I loved. Please, please come and see me.
So finally I thought, all right, I'll go see him.
I'm backtracking, you realize.
We're bringing it up to about six months ago.
I put on my only square dress I could find and went to this horrible,
expensive restaurant, something like the Delmonico Grill.
And the waiter came up and said,
Mademoiselle?
So I sat there and said, Monsieur?
He wanted me to order. Not having been in one of those places since I was five,
I wasn't aware of the procedures.
So they brought me clams on the half -shell, beautifully done, you know, on a
sterling silver clam plate with the lemon wrapped in gauze so it wouldn't
in your eyes.
And everything was so beautiful, I just sat there staring at it for about a half
an hour. Of course, I was stoned out of my mind. I had to turn on to even face
him. And I turned him on before we went. I said, oh, have a little pot.
Won't hurt you. Have a little pot. So he's puffing away. And we get there and
all I can do is stare at the clams.
And I said, they're so beautiful.
Oh, I can't eat them. Look at them. Look at this lemon.
All wrapped up like a little bunting. A little baby bunting like Christ in his
swaddling clothes. What, you couldn't eat it because you were smoking pot or
what? Well... I got so stoned that all I could do was look at it. I didn't want
to deface it by eating it, you see.
So, oh, wooden leg was getting terribly, uh, pretty terrible. He thought I was
crazy. Here he takes a starving creature. How were you dressed?
Well, I had on a beige crepe dress from Jack's. A floor length? Remember
Jack's? A floor length? No, it was ordinary length.
This was before the mini. It was about to here.
And I had on sort of a ratty long sweater and some amber beads
and three -inch spikes.
You mean you were dressing for the restaurant?
Yeah, for the restaurant, right.
And I kept saying, then he started pulling out more photographs.
He said, this is the girl who beat me up. I said, you showed me that six
ago.
That's what he likes.
Oh, and then last night when we met, he came up to me and said, he just got in
an accident again six months ago, six weeks ago. It was the first thing he
us when he walked in. He said things like, like, the doctors, the doctors
me I'm a superman, superman. I should have been in the hospital for two years.
My jaw was cracked up. My teeth were falling out. I'm a superman. I had my
dentist in there in two days.
And he completely fixed me up. And I was walked right out of there in six weeks.
Walked out so he could get into his next accident, right?
So anyway, my father said, well, I just can't understand why he isn't seeing
your sister anymore. I mean, maybe he found out about her past.
Maybe he found out about her past. I said, what do you mean her past? He
you know, that fella she was living with.
I said, oh, I'm sure he understands. After all, you know, I'm sure he's had
mistresses. This woman hit him in the head with a chain because he wouldn't
her. You know, he must have been fucking her before.
He said, I'm going to talk about that. Well, what did I bring up? Of course he
doesn't have mistresses. I mean, of course he doesn't have women. I mean,
fine man, a fine man, a pillar of the community.
And I said, but Dad, he's 50 years old.
Surely you're not trying to say he went through his life without ever, you know,
getting laid.
And he said, I don't suppose he was divorced, do you? Divorce, can't have a
divorce, can't have a divorce. I mean, he already had her married off to him,
right?
So, uh, getting bored?
No, I like to listen to just parts of conversations.
Sometimes I follow the story, and then I just listen to parts.
Or besides, I believe that my unconscious is still listening, so I
it's important.
I mean, you can do all kinds of things.
You can...
Somebody mumbling. I think you get almost as much.
You really do.
Sometimes.
Can we turn it off for a minute?
Well, as a young girl should be at the time, I believed him. I thought, not
am I a manic depressive, paranoid schizophrenic.
That said, I read through the whole Freudian textbook, but on top of that,
suddenly I discovered that I'm frigid. Goodness, I doubled up my visits to the
psychiatrist. Two dollars instead of one dollar.
I had to spawn welfare eventually to try to cure my frigidity.
Finally, he started talking about sadomasochism, you know, whipping, and
very interested in it, it seemed.
He started reading the, you know, Histoire d 'Eau, the story of all, and
recommended it to me, so I read it.
And I said, that's a lot of trash.
The first two chapters are fine, but after you get into it, you realize it
definitely was not written by any Pauline Rayal or whatever her name was
supposed to be. Some man, just like you, wrote it to con us women into thinking
we should all be massacres.
So I went to a literary expert.
who was also in on the F &M underground in New York, a woman, and said, who did
write this book? She said, well, everybody knows it was André Breton.
Everybody knows that in Paris was André Breton, because it wasn't a woman.
So I thought, not only did I get the dope on who wrote the book, but I should
introduce this woman to this lover I had. Now she could, you know, find him
slave girls and so on.
So I brought them up, and they hit it off like mad.
He said to me, now there's a real woman, real European woman. Can you believe
it? In 1967, he was still talking about European women versus American women.
Can you believe it? Well, anyway, this woman was, as a matter of
fact... Was what?
European?
Well,
she was about 55 when she had just given birth, she said.
Anyway, he really dug the whole thing, that she was really a woman and she knew
what he was talking about. Of course, when he left, she said to me, get rid of
him.
Well, anyway, he called me up every day, please get me a slave girl, get me a
slave girl, get me a slave girl. That woman must know some slave girls. After
all, you know, all those parties she goes to. So I said...
Well, my dear, I have searched high and low, and you will never find a slave
girl that will hold your interest half as much as I, so I'll volunteer.
I'll be right down.
I was madly in love with him. Having a nervous breakdown, thought I was frigid.
You know I would have tried anything, so down I went in the taxi.
He said,
Now, now, dear, take off your panties. on the way down i want the
image of you sitting with the cold tacky leather against your bare thighs and i
said all right i'll do everything so i got down kept my clothes on of course it
was freezing cold whipped into a restaurant went in the ladies room took
leotard pants etc came creeping up the stairs and said here i am don't talk he
said don't say a word kneel down don't talk put your hands behind your back
take off your boots
Well, he gave me two whacks for this whip that were enough. I mean, Christ
wouldn't have been able to stand it lying on the cross, you know.
Father, forgive them. He would have just wrenched himself off and killed whoever
did it. Did that ever hurt?
Two whacks on the soles of my feet.
But I stood it. I actually stood it. I thought, if there is anything to cure
frigidity and this is it, I'll do it. I want to be a real woman, European style.
Love it, dig it.
What did you say to him when he hit you?
I screamed.
And he said,
no, you couldn't take it.
No, you couldn't take it. I said, I can take it. I can take it. I won't scream
again. Then he hit me on the palms of the hands. Well, if you think the soles
the feet are bad.
You should experience the palms of the hands.
Oh, God. She'll never play the piano again. Pain.
Boy, I had a welt on my hand. I thought my hand was broken.
Of course, I had been used to it from daily family squabbles as a child.
So then he threw me on the bed and started again, and I said, Stop, you've
the wrong girl. You're right. I can't make this scene. I'll have to be frigid
for the rest of my life.
Can't do it.
You know what he really wanted?
He really wanted me to beat him up.
Here, would you like to hear the conclusion of the whole thing?
Yeah. Well, this is going on while my sister is up in the rugless apartment
the wooden leg guy and he's telling her to brush her hair another way. This was
the same night I went down there to him to get away from the wooden leg guy.
And what did I run into?
Torture.
So... I... I decided to stop seeing him for a while while my bruises healed.
Well, but did he give you money or anything?
Money! Money!
The cheapest son of a bitch in the world. Now, we had, you know, a cup of
and a little oatmeal and chatted, went back to our intellectual conversations,
talked about Proust, you know.
And Marie Bonaparte, who wrote a new book on women and sexuality and all that
garbage Freudian bullshit. She's the current writer, Marie Bonaparte? Marie
Bonaparte, current writer, straight from the arms of Freud.
You see, the trouble with it, they're right, don't trust anybody over 30.
Anybody over 30 is hung up on this Freudian, European -American women.
heterosexual, super heterosexual bag.
And the way I figure it out is the super heterosexual bag is just simply
sadomasochism. That's all.
Sadomasochism. Forget it. I'd rather be a lesbian.
So I went home.
A few weeks later, I was there. You'd rather be what?
A lesbian? Well, I'd rather be a lesbian than heterosexual. If all the
heterosexual men I know, and they're all like that.
are all like that, and it seems that they're all like that. You know, big
You have to go to lower classes.
Oh, I tried lower classes. They were all impotent.
Tea heads.
Yeah, this construction work. He said, baby, I'm a tea head. And I'm a tea
I'll always be a tea head. A tea head.
And I said, okay, smoke some tea.
So he smoked some tea, and I was trying to get out of the house. This was just
the other day.
He said, baby, I just got this vision.
of you going down on me and fighting me off.
And I said, well, make sure you keep it a vision because I'm leaving the house
right now.
So I went in the bedroom to put on the rest of my makeup.
And he must have just seen a movie with Marilyn Brando or something because when
I got to the door of the bedroom, there he was, posed in the doorway, light
behind him, dark in the bedroom. And I said, oh, God, do I have to go through
this again?
And I tried to crawl under his arm and he came and he said, baby.
T -Head.
Grabbed me by the hair.
Shoved my head down and said, open my pants.
I said, you must be kidding.
What, you used to be so gentle and impotent. What happened?
Remember Port Jeff?
We used to go to Port Jeff to fish and cook clams.
Port Jefferson, Long Island.
I said, remember the fun we used to have at Port Jeff? He never grabbed me by
the hair on my head. I mean, it just grew out after being, you know, Vietnam
rubble two years ago. I finally got it to grow out. Don't rip it all out again.
It seems that everything runs in parallels, you know?
So he kept it up. I said, I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to scream.
He didn't think I'd scream, so I let out a piercing shriek.
The doctor upstairs playing the piano.
All brain surgeons play the piano in their spare time. Did you know that?
I saw this, and James Mason did it in the seventh veil.
He played the piano?
I think it was a brain surgeon, a psychiatrist.
Well, one's as bad as the other. Oh, that's the opposite one.
Well, anyway, he tried to pull my hair, so I screamed again, and he realized
that I meant it, and he let me go.
And he drove me downtown.
Anyway. That is the lower classes for you.
Back to the middle classes, or shall we say the intellectuals. What?
Fresh.
Balling buffaloes lately?
Balling buffaloes? No, but I've seen humping horses.
No, it's humping hyenas.
It's humping donkeys.
Louder. Disease donkeys and populating canaries and gonorrhea goats and
cobras.
Don't be shy.
That's all I can think of.
Did you ever actually see any of these?
Oh, yeah, I see them every time I walk through the park.
The park, very dangerous place to walk these days.
What else have you seen in the park?
No, I hallucinate when I go in the park.
I take a trip and then I go jumping through the park. Through the park's
beauties, raw nature exposed in the nerve end of New York City.
Faces on the stones.
Faces on the stones lying in their own blood.
Well, speaking of sex,
you know what the taxi driver said to me yesterday?
What?
He said the government should give all these hookers, Simmons, beauty rest,
mattresses, and a cash register and put them to work.
Help the economy.
What are they complaining about?
The one before that.
said that he couldn't stand going down 42nd Street because of all these girls
walking the street. It's just too much. I mean, 10 years ago, it wasn't like
that around New York. Things have really changed. It was men. So I said, where
did they walk 10 years ago?
That's what I said to him. What do you mean, girls? I only see men walking the
street. No, it was men 10 years ago, but now it's very... You know, you can't
tell.
...antiseptic.
on 42nd Street.
Because they removed the arcade where all the men used to cruise. All the lost
people used to wander 42nd Street.
And you'd take them home with you and everything.
It saved thousands of people, you know.
That's why the hippie movement started because they all were driven away from
where they could be cruised and taken home.
So they had to go out in the park.
Parks.
And they have to freak out now in rooms with 20 other people breathing and
snoring. Whereas before, they would go to a lavish apartment with a grand
piano.
It's always lavish.
It's private anyway.
At least there's only one other person there. Sometimes two.
That's more lively.
So, in other words, it's all just people who don't have homes, right?
Arcades and hippie parks. Right.
Why are we always talking about the hippies? Isn't there anything more
interesting around?
I don't know if that's the other thing. I mean,
we're beginning to sound like Newsweek, you know?
Hippiedom. Trouble and hippiedom.
My mother called me up and said, Are you a hippie?
And I said, I'm too old to be a hippie.
She said, well, I read about them in the Saturday Evening Post.
And I said, well, what did it say? And she said, it just made me want to vomit.
Just sick.
So I told her that I gave myself a new name. And she said, that's what the
hippies do. You must be a hippie. You must be a hippie.
Then she told me they were dead.
Because.
Because. I come from taxi drivers.
Sad. Go ahead, Ingrid.
Did you ever hear of a substitute?
It was a substitute. No, no, no, no, no, no. Well, you can. say it better than I
used to. Now you have to go into the background of it. How he said this girl,
she couldn't have been more than six, she couldn't have been more than 16, got
in the taxi and he said, you know, what are you doing? She just got to town and
things were a little rough and what are you doing? She said, I'm a substitute
for a prostitute who's destitute in an institute.
And her name was I'm a schmuck.
Now that was your line.
Oh, no, that's right. You said Amish muck. He said Amish muck. And you said,
what's the difference? One leg over another.
What do you do besides resisting?
Telephone again.
Take that from me. No, you had the band -aids.
I had the lipstick. No, you had the band -aids. I do not wish to argue.
And could I distinctly see lipstick on your nipples?
See, I don't think there's any.
It's only the third time I've seen nipples.
But... I would say they were the natural color. Don't touch him. He gets
violent. He might hit you in the ear. No. He's so shy. He couldn't do that.
Shy. Shy. See,
he's so shy. He's afraid to be touched.
See, she knows that. I think he's a virgin.
Are you a virgin?
Definitely.
Like Andrew.
Sure.
But I have possibilities.
Of what?
Of being.
Oh, a non -virgin.
Well, who's going to break you in?
Many have tried.
Few have succeeded.
Didn't you tell me that I turned you on the other day?
I said you had possibilities.
That's what I say to them all.
No, they do.
I mean, I like a woman's body. It's very lovely and everything.
What do you like better, a man's body or a woman's body? Well, lately, I don't
know. I've been digging the loneliness scene.
Asexuality?
What's that?
You just don't indulge?
What's that?
Just so that you get another pat.
Fresh?
Oh, let me see your pat. Oh, this is getting more like a cocktail bounce than
Grants Village scene. Listen, the new word is pansexuality.
Pan -sexuality, like pan -American, stops at every port.
You've got straw coming out of your thing.
Well, let's talk about your... Better to have straw today than nothing.
I think the tit is not bad at all.
Oh,
I mean when they were new.
Before they got deflated.
No, when they were sticking out of the hanger. They used to be long, right?
they never could quite sit in the hanger. Their noses would stick out. And
love them because they're lighter color. I think gray and dark colors are silly.
I should have brought my breast book with me.
Your breast book?
Yes, there's a whole book on breasts. There's 412 ,000 varieties.
And your breath tells you what kind of a woman you are, and if you change your
personality, you can change the shape of your breath.
Well, it is A, B, C, D, E, F, G, and H.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. What am I?
Ingrid actually is the most womanly.
Of the three?
Yes, I'm immature and childish.
And what am I?
Well, they have one out on men, but I haven't got it yet. We haven't found the
names for you yet. If the nipple stands up, it means that you definitely have a
breast in opposition to just the chest.
They inflate when you touch them. Oh, well, then you have a breast.
Sensual.
How do you feel being surrounded by two girls?
I think we're girls as far as I know.
You'd rather be surrounded by girls or guys?
There's no Rathers in this world, baby.
Well, everybody is there. The Rathers all flew over the North Vietnam and
dropped their bombs long ago.
But I think I like being surrounded by myself.
And then I go on from there.
Well, why don't you just get yourself a room with mirrors all the way around and
a ceiling and a floor?
Like, look at Samaras, to the whole mirror room, and you can see yourself...
I don't like that much. I like just one full -length mirror.
Then you can become a narcissist.
Narcissist!
No, you were right the first time. Narcissist. I gave up looking in mirrors
three months, Juan. Why the first three months?
Because I thought I was becoming a nurse.
Boy, that's a lot. That old myth of narcissists, like the myth of onanism,
completely misinterpreted. Plus the myth, which we went into the last time
were together, double orgasm, which was also exploded recently.
Narcissists actually... Who exploded a double orgasm?
No. The myth of the female double orgasm, clitoral versus vaginal, was
by the top psychiatrists in the country at the Washington...
Psychiatric Institute a few weeks ago, but we've already gone into that. I
care what any institute or anyone on the podium explodes.
Anyway, back to Narcissus. He really wasn't in love with himself, you know.
As Christ said, dig thyself.
Break in half.
Now you're getting...
Love thy neighbor as you love yourself.
So loving yourself is very good. Both my neighbors are women, though.
I mean, in the place where I live.
Do you like to be beaten?
Only by Greeks.
The only people I trust are Greeks because... Can you pass me my orange
please? They're totally oriented with something.
Thank you.
The jacket is very sensual.
Some poor... Some poor cow.
Some poor cow.
That pill.
You're very pretty.
So are you.
That's the trouble with being around homosexuals. You always feel like
up because you know you're not appreciated.
They would know the difference one way or the other. But I like you both ways.
Oh, in other words, they wouldn't know the difference because I could be one or
the other. That wasn't what I meant. We were on our own.
I agree.
I mean, I like it to get really complicated.
Like getting into a cave and you just go all the way. You explore.
Pansexuality. You get so involved, it's very dangerous then.
So then, at least you've discovered something, you know.
Feet go way in.
I almost feel like they're my song again. Oh, by all means, sing for us.
I think it's awesome.
No,
that's the menu.
It's not a song.
Oh, didn't we just make up a new song?
What was it?
Um,
uh... You're my makeup, sweetheart.
Where's Louie?
I like the original
words because of their simplicity.
Take up the lap in my skin. You know, they have a new face -lifting thing
they burn you all off with acid.
And then they put antibiotics on it, and in two weeks you have baby -fine skin.
Baby -fine in two weeks. Baby -fine. After all, they are paying me
$1 .25 an hour plus tips, which haven't been too
generous lately.
Where do you work?
Here. I like Warren Beatty because he is so young and rich and handsome and
designer and suave and a fine actor.
I hope he never sees this picture.
In what movies? Oh, in Bonnie and Clyde. Did you see him in The Rolling Spring
of Mrs. Stone?
No. Wow.
Well, I don't have all day, my dear.
Surely out of all of those entrees, hors d 'oeuvres,
wine, soup, not to put it, you should be able to find something you'd like to
eat.
How about an omelette, western style?
French toast?
Cheeseburger deluxe.
What else?
Fried ham with pineapple.
I know.
Corned beef with a poached egg.
Hash, that's what it is.
I'd rather have ready -made. sandwich.
Whatever kind you've got.
Beef.
Do you have ham and cheese?
Is that what you want?
Pick on me, Sally.
The next two?
The coastline is much bigger than here.
Right now?
No.
It's definitely a little forward. I'll fall off the chair.
We're still ordering.
How about some French fries?
Followed
by
banana cream fries.
Really need so much.
Ham and cheese.
Mayonnaise.
Fresh.
New York style.
Remember when you told me you couldn't kiss people you were in love with?
Again. Again.
After all, it's going to take another five minutes for those french fries to
cooked, and what am I going to do in the meantime?
Yeah, they really mean so much.
Salmon cheese.
Roast beans.
And what's your name?
That takes a few minutes.
And cut off
your beard and mustache.
I think I'll quit.
I found something better to do than work. I have to go to the bathroom.
I know.
Yeah,
I'd like to feel at home wherever I work. Otherwise, I just can't make it
because, you know, it's too much like a job.
But about the guitar, I wouldn't worry about it. No one will know the
difference. They won't even know whether it's a guitar, a ukulele, an auto harp,
or the inside of a piano.
Just go right ahead and play.
I think it sounds lovely.
I don't know anything about it either.
Why don't you play Billy Joe?
Who has to work in that cafe?
She hoped she had his neck upon my knee.
I held my breath.
Go upstairs for a minute.
It's so out of key, I think. Oh, it doesn't matter.
I played the piano for 14 years out of key.
My father played the violin.
My father had 84 violins.
He collapsed them. They're strung across the ceiling on a string, and every once
in a while the string breaks.
Plus in all the closets, you step on a violin when you're walking to get out
your dress.
It's all true. I'm not making it up.
What's price tags on them?
He stands in the living room playing the violin while we sit in the kitchen and
he says, which one sounds the best? The one that sounds the best gets a $2 ,000
price tag. The next one gets a $1 ,000 and the third gets a $500.
So finally someone came to buy them and he said they're not for sale.
And then he oils them. No.
You don't have any milkshake?
How about a little slime instead? Open your mouth.
I'm happy without ordering, my dear.
I'm picking up space.
We do have a minimum.
How about a cup of coffee?
Then you'll also have to order a butter -covered bun, and that will make it
65 cents minimum.
You know, I mean, I only work here. I don't make the laws.
All right?
How about you take the expense?
While you're eating his sandwich, you have to have your own sandwich.
Well, I'll have the sandwich and... Is that all right with you?
You know, boys, I mean... I'd like a glass of wine.
You know, I'd let you sit here all day and play chess, but... That's what
everybody says.
I have to answer the telephone.
Wine, right.
I'll take
a
little milk for that coffee
Maybe this is coffee that you're... Oh, how about some Sanka?
How about some Sanka? I know how to make that.
Oh, that's okay.
Okay.
Why don't you sit down?
...in his downtown New York office.
Of course, that got me out of gym, you know. I went and said, Mother, I've
decided that... What do you want to do?
Well, I don't know. Oh, I know what it was getting me out of. St.
Patrick's Day practice. We had to be in the St. Patrick's Day parade and
practice up and down, up and down, up and down, so we'd win the cup. We won it
every year in caps and gowns and high heels, even if it was raining.
So we'd go prancing up and down those courtyards and caps and downs for two
weeks before the parade. Up and down, up and down. Whether you had blisters,
calluses, fallen arches, it didn't matter. Up and down.
So the first thing I tried getting out of it was I scraped my knee on purpose.
tripped over the curb, scraped my knee, ground some glass in it, got some blood
going, wrapped a band -aid, poured some ketchup on it, and went to the head nun.
And said, how can I march? Look at this knee. She said, oh dear, a little
scratch. Never hurt anybody. Why? Look at our soldiers fighting.
They go on.
So I said, that's not going to do it. I've got to turn to religion.
So I said, look, I really think I want to become a nun.
And I'm going to go down and see Fulton Sheen. And they said, oh, how wonderful.
Oh, dear. Oh, we're so happy. We'd love to have you in the community.
So I went all the way down to see Fulton Sheen. And when I got there, he was
sitting.
Get this.
wall -to -wall carpeting, gold drapes with the sunlight filtering through. You
know, he knew backlighting was important.
Backlighting on him, sitting there like this, with his cape over his shoulder.
And then he'd wait until I got two feet from him, and he swept his
cape aside.
He had big snatches.
What can I do for you, my child?
And I said, well, Bishop, I think I'd like to become a nun.
And he took one look at me and said, forget it.
Not for you.
What else can you do besides pray?
And I said, well, answer the phone, please.
Once again.
And, you know, now he's become a great left -wing liberal fighter for immediate
withdrawal from Vietnam and giving underground masses in Buffalo. They
Buffalo, speaking of that, you know what they do?
When the priests got a little out of hand, they demote them to further and
further north, the colder it gets. They think that'll take care of all their sex
problems, I guess.
Well, we had this family friend priest who was constantly getting demoted. They
had him practically in the U. con by the time I was having an affair with one of
our younger parishioners and of course he wouldn't think of such a thing they
were just subconsciously frustrated jealous etc.
Well the truth of the matter was he was having affairs with his younger
parishioners because one night at midnight he said my father's
house up in the woods he said let's take a little walk.
So we took a little walk, and we got out in the woods, and he had his hand sort
of on the smile of my back, and it kept getting down a little lower and a little
lower. And he said, my dear, when was the last time you held on a job?
And I said, oh, I guess it was about six months ago. And he said, why aren't you
working? And I said, well, I met this terrific man, and I just moved right in
with him when I found he had a little bit of money, and I haven't worked
And he said, what do you do together? What do you do?
Do you ever go down on him?
No. I swear I'm telling you the truth. I swear to God I'm telling you the truth.
A priest?
Yes, a priest. Are you serious? I'm serious.
Ordained? No, he didn't actually say go down. He said oral intercourse. Yeah,
right. Well, that's good.
Yeah, ordained, ordained, ordained for 20 years.
And I said, oh, yes, we do just everything.
And he said, oh, I feel like you're my younger daughter. I brought you up. I've
known you since you were seven.
Meanwhile, he had his hand pinching my ass.
And then he got me into this big clinch. He started kissing me. Well, before I
knew it, his tongue was halfway down my throat.
And I said, this isn't happening.
I mean, it couldn't be. It couldn't be happening. I'm hallucinating.
And I didn't know what to do. If I said stop, I was admitting it was happening.
And if I didn't say anything, we'd be in the fallen leaves in two seconds.
So I just stayed there with the tongue going farther and farther down. And
finally, he's going.
And he said, we've got to go back to the house. I'm getting excited. I'm getting
excited. And I said, you are getting excited. What about me?
So we got back to the house. He was also a bit of an alcoholic.
And it was a big house, right? Great big house.
Brought me into the pantry. Got my other sister. Sat us down on the floor, one
on each knee, swigging down the whiskey.
Irish.
Irish.
and would pinch each one of us in the ass, one by one, in between drinks. And
were all squealing and shrieking.
Oh, so many stories about this priest.
And there's another one coming up.
And we hear my mother's voice from the top of the stairs saying, Come to bed!
Come to bed!
Lights out! Lights out! So we said, Come on, Father, we've got to go to bed. So
we dragged him up off the pantry floor. You get so much personal attention.
That's terrific.
That's really terrific.
That's right. Like a lot of people go through their whole life and they don't
get any attention. Here you are getting all this experience from a priest, which
I think is really beautiful.
That's why they brought the priest in. You know, they had so many kids, they
couldn't give us all attention.
So they brought the clergy in to take up the gap, the credibility gap.
That's what Johnson should have, a few priests around. Yeah, right. I believe
that. So anyway, I successfully, thought I successfully.
You know what you did?
He got me behind the drapes and begged me to give him a goodnight kiss.
Oh, well.
Well, she shouldn't have been surprised, because you know what happened about
eight years ago?
Well, my sister and this priest were like this all the time, and my mother
always worried about their relationship.
And my sister would say, Oh, Mother's such a creep. You know, we're just
friends. I mean, after all, he's a priest. He grew up with my mother.
He left his boat to retrieve a motor. He pulled a motor up out of the bottom of
the Savior motor.
And he had the cast on his back, and he came in, and he's standing at the bottom
of the stairs on a Persian throw rug.
And he says,
Sheila! Sheila!
My sister Sheila.
So down the stairs she comes.
She was his cheerleader, his head cheerleader. You know, they did
together. At the top of the stairs, and he says,
Jump!
So she jumps into his arms down the whole flight of stairs. The rug goes out
from under him. She lands on top of him on the floor, and the next -door
neighbor at that moment opened the door, came in the house, took one look, and
went, Ah!
Ah!
Father! And she ran away and spread the rumors through the whole neighborhood
that the priest and my sister were making it on the living room floor.
Well. My sister, this really upset her. She said, don't you dare tell mother.
She's already suspicious enough.
Don't tell her a word about father.
He wants to go to Africa to save souls on a large scale.
He's tired of this petty soul scale. He wants to go down there and convert them
all, all the pagans, all those pagan Africans to the true Catholic Christian
way of life.
clean up their sex lives and so on, get them all married properly.
Of course, he probably realizes that he'll have very far South Africa, and
take him a long while to get back up to Canada.
So by the time he starts his career all over again, to get back up to Canada,
it'll take at least 10 years of going from one parish to another, warmer
climate, a little bit colder, a little bit colder, a little bit. And by that
time, he'll be impotent, so there won't be any problems.
I'll be so old.
Mother, my memoirs of the Catholic girlhood.
Much better than Mary McCarthy's. Would you like to hear some more? Yes.
Mother, with the case of the lesbian nun.
More heterosexuality within the church than outside of the church. And ever
since I left the church.
All I've run into are a bunch of fags, at least in the church there were all
those horny priests.
You know, you were always sure of a good lay, but now things are
rather frustrating.
My dear, I don't know where the water is. I'm new here. How about a Coke
instead? A root beer?
Taylor, love, I hear you have a marvelous voice. I do.
Will you sing something for me?
Well, if I could have another root beer.
Or gin.
Manhattan. I'll give you something special.
I'll see if this makes my warbler
slick.
Will you imitate a bird for me first?
More. That's enough.
Oh, that's marvelous.
I'll sing just the one little number while I'm reading the menu.
Of course.
Tea is often hard to do when it seems...
Happiness is gone.
You've got to learn to hide your tears and tell your
heart life must go on.
One more melody.
You've got to learn to leave the table when love's no longer being served.
To show everybody that you're able.
To leave without saying a word.
You've got to learn to hide your sorrows.
Word.
You've got to learn to hide your sorrows and go on living
as before.
What? Good is thinking of tomorrow.
Who knows what it may have in store?
You've got to learn to trust with your heart.
You've got to learn from a hard experience and listen
to advice and promise and learn
to live.
With a broken heart.
Haven't I heard the lyrics before?
And I also want a sandwich on rice.
A little more gin in my root beer. But I told you we don't have a liquor
license. Well, under the bottom shelf is your liquor license, baby.
This isn't 1920.
It's 1937 and depression is over.
I know, but we have new CDs now. We have other things.
Like priests?
Well, we have priests and we have drugs.
Just give me some no -dodes.
No -dodes? Yeah.
What have you got?
Oh, we have a few marigold seeds.
Three marigolds, please. How about a little zinnia? No doughs.
No doughs, marigolds, and zinnia mixed together.
No, I'll never take more than two things at once.
All right, then we'll do what? No doughs and marigolds?
No doughs and zinnia, I think.
Mixed with a little Coke?
No, water.
Water?
Water. Where's the water?
I'd like to have some water, too. Water.
Zinnia.
Anything that grows underground is some drug.
That's very clever.
I thought so.
I read a book where they put all the dope hanging on the wall with the
And when the police came and said, where is the dope?
And who wrote you that letter or something?
No, thank you. Just give me the coat.
My tour said not to
go too into the village because of violence.
Well,
haven't you ever read about it, though, and everything?
You didn't read about the Greenwich Village?
And she said, getting paid, getting paid, how much money are you making?
You might as well become a hippie and live in a hut in New Mexico. And she
hmm, don't you read the papers?
Hippies are dead, passe, finished, gone, over with.
What are you, some kind of a square?
She seems the same number my father is.
Maybe they should get together. But the hippies aren't dead.
The hippies are not dead. Because I saw a photograph, an exhibition just done a
month ago, and there were thousands of people with their garments, long clothes
and everything.
Where?
In some enormous park in some big city.
And it wasn't New York or Los Angeles.
Some Midwestern milkweed. Milkweed. You know, during the war, they used to hang
milkweed out on lines to dry to sell for parachutes all through the country and
upstate New York.
Did you ever see that?
Wow. That's what thistle -down is. Isn't that something that thistle -down makes
parachutes, and a thistle -down is like a parachute anyway?
And it's the only good down.
That's what they're going to call a hippie thistle -down.
Because they sprout winter and... Sprout in the winter.
Well, listen, I'm way outside the village, according to my tour, and I saw
eight hippies coming in here.
There's a hippie. I'm saying it again. I was in Fidel Castro's dictionary.
Say that again.
I'll tell your sister -in -law's husband's fiancé that I made it with the
number one of Cuba.
Big, big one.
Well, my dear, I was engaged to Batista.
Is he dead?
You don't even know of your former husband?
No, but I found a hippie who might know. Because I saw a buck. He caught a buck.
He's either a cop or a hippie.
You know what he did?
You know what he did to some other friends of mine?
Who?
Batista. Oh, Batista?
Yeah, he took, uh...
One of their fiancés dropped him on a table and put his girlfriend in front of
him and said, make him talk, make him talk, because if he doesn't talk, we're
going to castrate him. And he wouldn't talk, so they cut off his balls right
there in front of him. To the United States and talked about that rotten
Our cousin knew he was a communist.
You would think Castro would do the castrate.
Yeah, why did you leave Cuba? Did they take away your father's mansion?
Because... Because Castro's father was Dr.
Castro, who performed... performed operations.
Well, were you with Castro before or always against? Or either... Oh,
Louie, quit burping.
Where? Look what happened to him in the sugar can. Look at this. Oh, he's a
hippie. Look at it. No, it's not.
There's still left. I told Time Magazine.
Do they know about you?
No. At first, do they know about you? He's a mixture, a Sierra Bandit and a
uh, hip mate.
Hip, hippie. Don't you dare.
Do you hit me?
I think he needs some flowers in his hair to go along with everything else.
they come.
Oh, well.
It'll work. Let's pretend.
Oh, what?
Do I have to pay extra? I have to tell him that there's a service charge for
pinching.
Well, he's kind of... Out of the bill.
He's America.
We don't touch, we just look.
Did you help overthrow the government?
Did you help overthrow? Yeah.
What did you overthrow?
Overthrew my cast.
Your cast?
Yes. I was going into a cast society. You had a cast in your arm? I was going
into a cast society.
Oh, you oversaw it. Yeah.
Where did you do that?
Right here.
Because I just come from Ghost Point, and it's all that. I got news for you.
Dead on anything.
I mean, I walked down here from 82nd Street, and it wasn't until I
got on this block that I began.
Seeing different colors. Otherwise it was all black boots.
I'm part of the American Indian.
That's what they all say. My father's Chickasaw Indian.
They run naked through the woods and put flowers in their hair, but not in the
fall.
I mean, it's October now.
I got news for you.
Oh,
the Russians in Canada do it in the winter, though.
But they shot them. They're shooting most of them.
They shouldn't.
I know.
Because when you get naked all year round... All the mountains do is pass
traffic. You get high because all the blood comes to your skin like with
Right. Is that why Sesame Biotic died? I mean, if you're being castrated or
anything and you want to... I was born in the Southwest during the Depression.
Oh, we were all born during the Depression. We moved to California. I
during the height of the boom.
My mother told me that I was a boom baby.
You shouldn't tell anybody that you had any Indian blood because you were a
thief.
Maybe I should sing my song again.
I would like for you to try it again.
Try it again?
With a little more melody.
A little, no.
Well, I'll sing it. We should order some more. I mean, you know, I'm not going
to make any money if you just sit here pinching me like that. No, stop it.
Can I have a Coke, Miss?
I do have a name, you know. Could we have a root beer in the kitchen?
A root beer in the kitchen? My name is...
Facing reality is
often hard to do.
Why don't you jump off in the back?
I wish I could.
Let's see a little... Your tattoo is Mary Jane.
this restaurant is swinging.
No one allowed behind the back.
Let me get into it. Get right back out there.
Oh, do that again.
Do that again. I love that.
It's such a nice view of your back when you jump over.
Just keep jumping back and forth.
No, because I leave my outfit. Of course I work here. I certainly wouldn't
be standing here if I weren't working here.
You've got to learn to be the same.
Just sorrows and go on living as before.
What good is thinking of tomorrow?
Who knows what it meant?
And sometimes pay the price.
And learn to live with a broken
heart.
I'm an activist.
You kill people or what?
No, but I haven't dropped out. I'm still part of society.
Well, I'm part of society. I'm from a very wealthy suburb.
Where's that?
Grosse Pointe.
And, of course, I myself am not very rich, but Grosse Pointe is.
So I just breathed in the air.
Gold dust.
Pure, all sheer gold dust. Anyway, by activists, you're going to sit down and
then you're going to do more later or something?
Well, I work right now for the resistance.
I'm afraid to work for the resistance.
I go down to the demonstration. I went down to the draft card burning at Foley
Square.
And I walked around once. But I don't like walking around in circles and
because I get bored.
I gave up weightlifting because you have to keep repeating everything.
And so I just, I guess I am a dropout.
So I shouldn't, what should I do?
Well, do you have a drop card?
No.
I had one, but some hustler stole it from me.
I mean, some soldier stole it. So I guess that's the same as getting burned
it, or burning it.
Well, you're in the resistance too, then.
Yes, they say I... They say it's a wonder I'm still alive.
You know.
So what do you think?
San Francisco, whether they're very... Is it more exciting there or what?
I've only been here a short time.
But I mean San Francisco. Oh, well, I see you can't compare it.
Well, from what I read, it's war.
But in San Francisco, it's all drinking.
I mean, there's just so much wine.
They think they're French.
And they drink this terrible California wine.
Yeah, and the resistance are trying to stop the war in Vietnam.
And by doing so, we're having everyone of draft age send back their draft cards
to the Selective Service System.
which is, of course, totalitarian, as you know. How many people?
1 ,500 so far, but on December 4th, there will be another turn in of cards.
And if you don't have a card, you can send a letter to your senator or someone
saying that you support our move.
Now, that is aiding and abetting the breaking of a law, which is punishable
10 years imprisonment or a $10 ,000 fine.
If you want to do something for your country, then you can.
Ow! No.
It's painful, isn't it?
Well, yeah. What if I were hit by a belly cover? And I'm so sensitive.
Besides, I have this fracture.
That's why I didn't go to Washington.
My head's already split right down the whole thing here.
Did you get that in the war?
I got that in the war on the streets.
Well, we have to end all wars as soon as we can. I know.
I know.
Do you see... Well, tell me more about the resisting.
Well, it's just an organization of people, as I say, who turn back their
cards and are willing to go to jail rather than fight or serve. 1 ,500 is
very... 600 ,000 we can handle.
I think when in Washington those three, they say three MPs joined the people, I
thought that was the most significant thing of the whole.
One of them is still at large.
Oh, wonderful.
I mean, I don't want to come on or anything, but I like to make love.
I don't just give flowers.
I give cancer, Leo, and I am, of course, I suppose I'm
the worst kind because I'm terribly happy that people are doing all this.
can help. Even if you don't have a draft card, you can help by Norman Mailer.
Allen Ginsberg and other people have signed a statement of resistance against
the illegitimate authority.
They're helping out in any way they can. You can help out with money. You can
help out with time. You can help out with, you know, joining our support
on the 4th when we turn back our draft cards again.
This restaurant used to be a simple mafia undercover joint. Now it's
goddamn demonstration protest.
Berkeley.
University type.
Because they're knocking on our door, baby. The fascists and everything.
I don't have a restaurant anymore.
That's just for draftee.
Would you take a deserter into your house and hide him from the law?
Yes, I'll do anything that's true.
Perhaps been smashed by the British during the American Revolution. Now,
anything that happens and immediately, because for me, the plan is difficult.
Well,
if I could get your address, perhaps I could contact Dodger and other groups
tell them that you'll give them hospitality.
Oh, I won't give this to anybody. We need people who care, Taylor.
We don't want dropouts. We want people who take an interest in this society and
who want to change it.
Well, yes, but I want someone beautiful to live with.
Well, anyone who doesn't like war must be beautiful.
Not necessarily.
Well, I mean, perhaps we could send you pictures.
Oh, no, I'm going to try to climb.
Well, Taylor, I'm glad that you've given me your support, and I will get in
touch with your proper organizations, and hopefully...
Someone will be knocking on your door soon.
They all know where I live.
Where do you live?
Well, I don't want to give my address in the restaurant here because... Why not?
We're all friends here, Taylor.
Why not?
Who said that?
Who said that?
Because some of these decorated natives... Well, I'll give it.
Sure you'll give it.
No, I won't because there are people after me.
People? Yes.
The FBI is after me, but I... Well, like about 15 corner
boys are after me.
Corner boys?
Yeah, guys that get you in a corner and beat the shit out of you.
Is that what you're worried about?
Constantly.
Constantly. You have to be beaten up once or twice before you can understand
what it means to fight this. I've been in the hospital a couple of times. I've
been in jail nine times.
Civil rights activity?
No, personal rights activity.
Which I suppose... Who got beaten up?
Yeah,
but we shouldn't talk about this. He started talking about the resistance
movement. I don't know what they're talking about.
That's all there is to it.
Anyone in the resistance movement?
What do they do?
Resist.
Did you go to Washington?
Yeah, I just came from there. Did they put you in jail?
I didn't go up to the head.
Well, I was afraid to go because I was afraid of getting beaten up because no
matter where I go, I'm always getting beaten up from the age of seven.
Men are always trying to beat me up.
We have to take the pain in order to get the victory.
Well, I'd like to give a little.
Well, never.
Nothing to give.
You've got to pick out who you're going to give to.
I don't like indiscriminate pain giving.
Why don't we draw up a list?
Huh? Why don't we draw up a list of who should be in the most pain?
Let's kill Johnson.
That won't do any good.
I'd kill Lady Bird.
See, my button says, where is Lee Harvey Oswald now that we really need him?
My button says, where is George Metesky now that we really need him?
Oh, but he was the kind I don't like. He went around putting bombs in seats of
theaters and things. My button says, December 4th, the resistance.
We hope to see you there in front of the federal building in several cities
across the United States. Really, where's the federal?
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