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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,760 [logo swooshing] 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,200 [suspenseful music] 3 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,160 - What had initially started out 4 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:28,240 as an admission of accidental killing 5 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,600 by Sebastian Bendou had now turned 6 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,400 into a complex murder inquiry 7 00:00:33,480 --> 00:00:35,680 involving more than one person. 8 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,320 There was no doubt this was a murder, 9 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,800 it was horrendous injuries 10 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,000 and one person couldn't have done this on their own. 11 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:45,560 [suspenseful music] 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,640 I found it harrowing trying to picture 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,080 what Christophe must have thought, 14 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:52,160 trying to understand and comprehend what's happening to him. 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,400 We need to get justice for Christophe and his family. 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,880 Wagner and Kocher had likely been involved, 17 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,520 so there was clearly a lot of pressure on us 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,760 to bring them in for questioning so we could start to secure evidence. 19 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,520 [intense music] 20 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,520 What we'd established is that Kocher, Bendou and Wagner, 21 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,680 they had all left the courts where they'd been living, 22 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,080 so we had a lot of trouble trying to find out 23 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,160 where they were living, what they'd been doing 24 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,440 and what had happened in the intervening time 25 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,400 since they left the court. 26 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:23,920 - We specifically wanted to talk 27 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,440 to Manuel Wagner and Dominik Kocher. 28 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,560 In talking to neighbors and acquaintances of the trio, 29 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,240 it became apparent that we weren't the only ones 30 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,760 who had been searching for them since they left. 31 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,040 Kocher had borrowed a significant amount of money 32 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,160 from local residents and members of the football team 33 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:46,320 that he ran. 34 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,760 - Dominik told us he was going to move to Warrington, 35 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:50,880 not far from here. 36 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,840 So he said to me, "Look, I'm a bit short of money 37 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:54,440 to pay towards my deposit." 38 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:55,920 He said, "Can you borrow me some money?" 39 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,040 I said, "Yeah, yeah, how much do you need?" 40 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,120 And then he said, "I need two grand." 41 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:00,280 And I thought, "Yeah, no problem. 42 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,960 You're my friend, I'll give it to you." 43 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,840 So I gave him two grand like that, no paperwork, 44 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:05,920 because I thought, you know what? 45 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:07,160 I trust him, we're close. 46 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,360 I'll give it to him. 47 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:10,360 We played football on Monday, 48 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:11,800 then on the Tuesday, he was gone. 49 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,120 [suspenseful music] 50 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,200 Thinking, oh, something strange, 51 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,000 has he died or something, you know, 52 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,600 we're like is he dead, we don't know. 53 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,880 Couldn't get hold of no one, even Sebastian, Manny. 54 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,960 [brooding music] 55 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,360 - Manny and Seb moved away with Dom and his family. 56 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,520 There was no warning, there was no goodbyes, farewells. 57 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,800 It was just in the middle of the night, they were gone, 58 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,600 but we wasn't sure why. 59 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,800 We were starting to assume that it was over debt chasers. 60 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,360 [brooding music] 61 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,120 - I knew where his house was. 62 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,800 I went to his house and he wasn't there. 63 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,600 So no one there and it was just an empty house 64 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,800 and I thought, "Oh gosh, my money's took as well." 65 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,880 [suspenseful music] 66 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,120 - And then we all received letters. 67 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,200 Me and Joe received one, 68 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,960 I think most people in the football team received one. 69 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,760 - A letter sent through to Ellesmere Port. 70 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,720 Friends of Kocher. 71 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:19,160 He said his father-in-law was ill in France 72 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,480 and his phone wouldn't be working 73 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:22,840 and they were going over to France 74 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,520 so you wouldn't be able to get ahold of him, 75 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,320 but in truth, they didn't go to France. 76 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:33,120 Kocher, Wagner and Bendou were in rent arrears 77 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,000 and they just upped and left. 78 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,360 [suspenseful music] 79 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,360 - It transpired that the three of them 80 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,080 were keeping one step ahead of the bailiffs 81 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,320 in that they moved out of Ellesmere Port 82 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,920 and ended up in Scotland. 83 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,040 - They all moved up in mass to start new lives up there, 84 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,680 where again, Kocher was the dominant force 85 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,480 who controlled them, their wages 86 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,800 and really how they lived their lives. 87 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,160 - They were getting jobs in local hotels and the like 88 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,240 and Bendou did land a job. 89 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,560 He was working as a pot wash at a local Dumfries restaurant. 90 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,640 Then one day, Bendou left the rental property up in Scotland 91 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,920 and went off the face of the Earth. 92 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,440 [brooding music] 93 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,640 And this is in the May of 2013. 94 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,720 And in effect, he's making his way back to Cheshire. 95 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,840 [brooding music] 96 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,360 And this is when he informs the cops 97 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:41,440 that he is responsible for a murder back in 2009 98 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,200 in the Ellesmere Port area. 99 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,280 He pretty much walked from Scotland, you know? 100 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,360 [suspenseful music] 101 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,960 Two teams were deployed to Scotland. 102 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,400 Wagner was arrested at the rental property 103 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,680 where Dominik Kocher was in a waiting room 104 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,680 in a local hospital where he was going for treatment. 105 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,840 There was all sorts of rumors about his health, 106 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,840 whether he did have cancer, whether he didn't. 107 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,800 I don't know what his appointment was for, 108 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,560 but he didn't have cancer. 109 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,240 The arrests ran smoothly. 110 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,880 There was no drama. 111 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,920 They were arrested and they were brought back 112 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,480 to custody in Cheshire. 113 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,640 - I became involved when all three of the defendants 114 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,720 were in custody awaiting charge, 115 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:34,000 and it was quite clear that Kocher was in fact the leader, 116 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,640 if I can put it that way. 117 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,320 The others followed his lead. 118 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,120 The difficulty at that stage 119 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,280 was there was not enough evidence 120 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,600 to charge them with murder. 121 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,680 If we just released them, the chances were 122 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,240 that they'd leave the country 123 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,560 and so I charged them with preventing 124 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:59,480 the lawful burial of a corpse and assisting an offender 125 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:04,000 on the basis that Bendou was charged with murder. 126 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,520 Then they'd assisted an offender 127 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,760 and then it was all stops out for the police 128 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,120 to carry out their investigations. 129 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,120 [brooding music] 130 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,640 - Kocher stuck to the line that he'd told police initially 131 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,640 that Christophe had moved abroad. 132 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,400 Wagner told police that he believed Christophe was in China, 133 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,200 because Kocher had told him that he'd spoken 134 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,240 to the victim's brother 135 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:29,960 and he'd confirmed that was the case. 136 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,520 - Christophe's brother, Noel, had received an email, 137 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,800 which purported to be from Christophe to his brother, 138 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,720 saying, effectively, don't worry 139 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,280 and that he'd met this girl 140 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:43,920 and that this is the first time 141 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,400 he'd had access to the internet. 142 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,560 - But we knew that when this email was sent to Noel, 143 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,360 that these were sent after Christophe's death, 144 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,560 so he's not sending the emails. 145 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,760 One of the experts that we approached 146 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,520 to forensically analyse this email 147 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,280 was a linguistics expert. 148 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,480 He looked at structure in sentences and languages 149 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,440 that Christophe would use in writing and his style, 150 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,120 but he also looked at the way that Kocher wrote, 151 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,360 spoke and different dialects of language 152 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,000 and deduced that Kocher sent that email. 153 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,080 [suspenseful music] 154 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,600 [gentle music] 155 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,040 - As a link between the family and the investigation team, 156 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,520 what was particularly difficult for me 157 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,480 was to communicate to the family 158 00:08:41,560 --> 00:08:45,280 that this email that Noel had received back in 2009, 159 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,000 saying he'd left the area 160 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,640 and had moved to China, was a complete lie. 161 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,280 It wasn't Christophe that had sent it. 162 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,960 [somber music] 163 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:01,600 There was an accumulation of information that made me feel 164 00:09:01,680 --> 00:09:05,880 that there was something not quite right about the story. 165 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,400 It was... 166 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:11,920 ...hard. 167 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,080 [somber music] 168 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,200 When something like that happens, 169 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,280 there are days when you believe the story about him going to China. 170 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:32,840 We held onto whatever we could. 171 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,280 I didn’t expect him to just call us. 172 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,480 I was just expecting him to show up at the door one day. 173 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:40,840 [somber music] 174 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,760 - Manuel Wagner told police that he'd come home one day 175 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,080 and found Bendou moving a tarpaulin-shaped package 176 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,920 and that Bendou had asked for his help to move it 177 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,960 and him unaware of what was in the package, 178 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,960 thinking that perhaps it was rubbish or some items, 179 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,520 had helped move the tarpaulin into the shed. 180 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,000 He expressed shock and horror 181 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,560 at the fact that a body had been found 182 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,120 in the property where he used to live. 183 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,560 - But another little piece of information 184 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:16,040 came from a neighbour who lived opposite number 19, 185 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,960 and she told us that she was upstairs one day 186 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,400 and she was looking across towards 19 187 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:30,000 and she saw Kocher in the garden of 19 doing manual labor 188 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,800 and she'd never seen Dominik Kocher do any form of labor before. 189 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,800 - I can remember Dominik coming out of the house one day 190 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,800 with a big rolled up carpet or a bag or something or other, 191 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,680 heavy, struggling with it, 192 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,640 and the other one that was living there was helping him 193 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,440 and they put it into the shed. 194 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,400 For the life of me, I did not know 195 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,560 there was a body in it, you know? 196 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,600 [somber music] 197 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:05,480 - Something so small would start to back up 198 00:11:05,560 --> 00:11:09,080 the lies that Kocher was telling 199 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,480 and this elderly neighbour remembered it. 200 00:11:11,560 --> 00:11:14,560 [suspenseful music] 201 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:20,480 - When we moved in, 202 00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:22,560 we were led to believe Dom was the landlord. 203 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,120 When we inquired about the shed, 204 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,880 he said that the landlord has things in the shed, 205 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,600 so we were unable to use it. 206 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,080 We just assumed that it was part 207 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,480 of maybe his tenancy agreement on the property 208 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:36,600 that there were private things in there. 209 00:11:36,680 --> 00:11:39,480 [suspenseful music] 210 00:11:39,560 --> 00:11:42,680 Joe had a push bike so he could go to work 211 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,320 and my grandma had suggested, 212 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:45,560 "Why don't you put the bike in the shed? 213 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,280 It'll get rusty or stolen." 214 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,720 And we tried to do that on one occasion. 215 00:11:51,560 --> 00:11:54,040 You could see our back garden Dom's place 216 00:11:55,400 --> 00:12:00,600 and Dom came flying from his property across to ours, 217 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,520 shouting and swearing in a mixture of English, 218 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,200 French and German and said that we, under no circumstances 219 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,160 were allowed to go near the shed. 220 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,120 [suspenseful music] 221 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,200 I couldn't think of anything that would make you react that way 222 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,560 unless it was illegal or shameful, 223 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,560 but his warning definitely stayed with us 224 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,400 and we never tried to get in that shed again. 225 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,120 [suspenseful music] 226 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,760 - During the course of the interviews of Kocher and Wagner, 227 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,080 they were answering the questions that the officers were asking them. 228 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,600 Wagner had this undertone of arrogance, 229 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:47,480 but they were two very, very different characters. 230 00:12:47,560 --> 00:12:49,360 [suspenseful music] 231 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,480 There was a multitude of evidence 232 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:56,320 that implicated Kocher massively. 233 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,640 The purchase of the bricks, the purchase of the cement, 234 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,480 his financial history, 235 00:13:01,560 --> 00:13:04,440 the monies going through his accounts from the other two. 236 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,280 For me, it was the knives that done him. 237 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,960 [brooding music] 238 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,640 As a result of the investigation 239 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,720 and the interviews with Wagner, Bendou and Kocher 240 00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:26,480 and all the further stuff we are finding out, 241 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:28,480 we present to the CPS. 242 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,640 The Crown decided to charge Dominik Kocher 243 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,200 in connection with the murder of Christophe Borgye. 244 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:36,240 [suspenseful music] 245 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,800 - But we didn't have enough evidence to charge Wagner with murder. 246 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,200 [suspenseful music] 247 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,880 - Wagner was charged with assisting an offender 248 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,160 and preventing a lawful burial. 249 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,440 They thought that was the more fitting charge for Wagner. 250 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,000 - But Bendou was being treated for his mental health issues 251 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,120 having been sectioned in the Mental Health Act. 252 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,600 - We charged Bendou with murder, 253 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:05,600 even though he said it was self-defense. 254 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,920 - He was arguing that he didn't have the capacity 255 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,200 or the intent to kill. 256 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,880 It was as a result of his mental illness. 257 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,520 - When somebody is unwell, 258 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,480 in this case mentally unwell, 259 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,480 there can be a capacity assessment by a psychiatrist 260 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,880 to determine are they well enough to stand trial? 261 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,040 Meaning will they be able to take in the information, 262 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,080 will they be able to understand it? 263 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,480 Will they be able to give their own testimony? 264 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:40,200 - Those acting for Bendou made an application 265 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,680 to have their client not tried at that time, 266 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,120 and the judge granted that. 267 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,760 So we proceeded against Kocher and Wagner 268 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,440 and we went to trial. 269 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,200 [suspenseful music] 270 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,000 - All the evidence was presented, 271 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,160 from the purchases to the pathology, 272 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,200 to what we'd been told, the interviews, 273 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,360 the presentation of the injuries in court 274 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:23,240 have to be dealt with in a much more delicate manner. 275 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,960 The injury to the side of Christophe's head, it was massive, 276 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,760 so it wasn't one blow. 277 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,160 - Because of where they lived, 278 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,760 family couldn't be at the court certainly 279 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,600 for the duration of those trials. 280 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,440 Every day I would speak to Yves 281 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,800 and I would go through the events of the day. 282 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,280 The evidence backwards and forwards, the arguments. 283 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,640 It was horrific. It was savagery. 284 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,920 They were barbarians. 285 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:57,080 Killing someone with a hammer, stabbing him? Honestly? 286 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,680 It’s awful. 287 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,240 - I've had a few sleepless nights thinking, 288 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,760 especially when I gave evidence against Dom in court, 289 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,600 you know, having dreams of him coming 290 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,680 and doing the same to me. 291 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,600 Kind of put myself in Christophe's position, 292 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,400 but it was me they were doing it to. 293 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,160 [suspenseful music] 294 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,920 - The financial side of stuff was a strong part 295 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,200 in the case against Dominik Kocher. 296 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,000 Its financial gain and the main control 297 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,400 and feature throughout all of the financial 298 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:32,600 is Dominik Kocher. 299 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:33,960 [brooding music] 300 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,520 - If you look at the way that Kocher, 301 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,640 in the wake of Christophe's murder, 302 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,320 went on to sell all of his possessions, his DVDs, 303 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,960 his CDs, his clothes, his car 304 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,600 and the way that he continued to spend 305 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,720 using Christophe's bank details and his bank card, 306 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,080 it shows that money was the main motive for Kocher. 307 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,440 - He was just self-serving. 308 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,680 He was off the charts with his lies 309 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,600 and the bull that was coming out of him. 310 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,880 He'd borrowed money off people and run off. 311 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,480 He used to make up various stories about illness. 312 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:06,800 He couldn't lie straight in bed. 313 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,680 You just couldn't trust the man. 314 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,600 - Over the course of nine weeks in that first trial, 315 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,000 there were some days where my confidence 316 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,280 was a bit shaken sometimes, 317 00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:16,640 that we were gonna get the result 318 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,080 that we so desperately wanted, 319 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,800 because at the end of the day, we present the evidence, 320 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,400 the jury make that decision. 321 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,080 [suspenseful music] 322 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,920 But at the end of this trial of Kocher and Wagner, 323 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,680 jury were out for some time deliberating. 324 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,160 I was personally quite stressed about it, 325 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,640 because I was so desperate for the family 326 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,760 to get the justice that they deserved. 327 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,360 [brooding music] 328 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,400 - They convicted Kocher of murder, 329 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,960 but acquitted Wagner of the other two offences, 330 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,800 because we just did not have enough evidence to link him. 331 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:07,080 Once the jury had acquitted, that's it, basically. 332 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:08,680 [gentle music] 333 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:09,880 - Kocher was jailed for life 334 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,600 with a minimum of 23 years in prison. 335 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,840 Kocher was described in court as dangerous beyond measure 336 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,240 and the court heard that this ferocious killing 337 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,360 had been a cold and calculated execution. 338 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,560 The judge also referred to the cruel way 339 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,760 that Kocher deliberately sent a false email 340 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,160 to the victim's family, 341 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,240 giving them false hope that he was okay. 342 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,280 - Yves is a retired police officer 343 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:36,640 with over 30 years of service, so he was quite stoic. 344 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:42,320 Aurelie and Noel I think were deeply traumatized 345 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,560 by what they'd learned over the course of nine weeks 346 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,240 about what had happened to their brother. 347 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,760 The cruelty, the deceit, the lies, 348 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,200 the lengthy period of time where they'd had no idea. 349 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,800 [somber music] 350 00:18:54,640 --> 00:19:03,240 I personally asked my father not to tell me everything, 351 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:09,040 to protect myself, in a way, from anger. 352 00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:12,080 And I have no answer to what I felt. 353 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,840 [somber music] 354 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,800 Even though I’m not a violent person, it’s incredible how a human being 355 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:28,200 can think, why did they do this? They deserve the same treatment 356 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:33,680 So, I tried to see and learn as little as possible to manage my anger. 357 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:38,560 But it was… I just couldn’t believe it. 358 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,680 - I think there was some measure 359 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,960 of justice delivered to the family 360 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,640 and I think they at least knew what had happened. 361 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,720 [suspenseful music] 362 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,960 - [Neil] Bendou stood trial, charged with murder in May, 2014. 363 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,040 - He was arguing that he had diminished responsibility 364 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:07,160 because of paranoid schizophrenia 365 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,880 and we very much as a team felt no, he committed this murder 366 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,800 as knowingly as Kocher had. 367 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,960 - We had psychiatric evidence 368 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,080 to show that he was perfectly fit for trial. 369 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,400 - Two psychiatrists told the court 370 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,080 that there was no evidence he was in fact suffering 371 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,240 from delusions at the time of Christophe's death. 372 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,240 - Retrospectively, we are looking 373 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,040 at whether they were actively psychotic 374 00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:33,760 at the time of the offense 375 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,600 and what you can look at, witness testimony, 376 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,600 text messages, whether they were in work, 377 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,080 what was happening in their life, 378 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,480 and if all of those things they were able to do 379 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,720 and they were appearing stable, 380 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,840 then it suggests that they may not be being truthful 381 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,040 about the delusions they were having 382 00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:54,360 in relation to the offence. 383 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,920 [tense music] 384 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,480 - At his trial, Bendou changed his story completely 385 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,360 from the account that he'd initially given police 386 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,280 that he'd acted alone and that it was in self-defense. 387 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,000 Bendou said that he was effectively indoctrinated by Kocher 388 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,400 to carry out the killing. 389 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,200 - Kocher had invented this fantastical story 390 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,120 that Christophe Borgye was a clear and present danger 391 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,720 to Kocher and his family and his children, 392 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,360 and that they needed to get rid of Christophe 393 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:25,880 and that was the only option. 394 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:29,600 - Kocher was very inventive with the stories 395 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,640 that he'd spin to the other two. 396 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,240 Bendou relayed saying that Kocher had told him 397 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,800 that Christophe was actually a spy for the Americans. 398 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,760 Where that come from, I've got no idea. 399 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,360 He told them that Christophe was planning 400 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,480 to assault Kocher's daughter, which is total nonsense. 401 00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:51,240 - He was drip-feeding information 402 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,200 to make them mistrust Christophe 403 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,440 and therefore do what he wanted them to do. 404 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:02,520 He filled them with reasons why this man deserved to die. 405 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,920 - Bendou clearly implicated all three of them 406 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,120 in being responsible for Christophe's death. 407 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,320 - [Neil] And it had been him, Kocher and Wagner 408 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,960 who had carried out the murder together. 409 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,160 [suspenseful music] 410 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,400 - I don't know how long the jury were out, 411 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,240 but they came back with a verdict of guilty. 412 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:22,800 [suspenseful music] 413 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:23,800 - He was jailed for life 414 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,320 with a minimum of 14 years in prison. 415 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,280 His defence of diminished responsibility 416 00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:30,080 was rejected by the jury. 417 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,320 It was accepted that he had played a lesser role 418 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,840 in these events than Kocher 419 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,000 and that Kocher was no doubt the ringleader 420 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,400 and that he was under his influence. 421 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,480 [suspenseful music] 422 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:44,360 - When we got to the end of the trial with Bendou 423 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,160 and Aurelie and her father were there, 424 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,840 it was clear that the evidence pointed 425 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,800 to three people being involved in this murder. 426 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,920 [suspenseful music] 427 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,240 The look on Aurelie's face 428 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,880 as I'm translating the judge's comments, 429 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,480 commenting on this three and three people being involved 430 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,120 and she looked at me and then she said to me in French, 431 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,840 "So Wagner gets away with it." 432 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,840 I thought, “That’s not right. Something needs to be done.” 433 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,680 Because there were three. Two were convicted 434 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,320 but not him. Why? 435 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:21,000 If he had committed an unforgivable crime, 436 00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:22,680 he couldn’t just walk away. 437 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,080 [suspenseful music] 438 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,800 - Wagner was responsible as well, 439 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,240 but had ultimately walked away scot-free 440 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,000 and was out on the street. 441 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,240 [suspenseful music] 442 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,480 - The judge who was summing up even said 443 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,600 in his closing speech 444 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,360 that there was three knives, three sets of overshoes, 445 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,440 clearly three people involved, 446 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,960 and I was raging to tell you the truth. 447 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,280 I was stunned. 448 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,080 - All the officers on the teams went on to other cases, 449 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,840 but we had put our all into this. 450 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:59,920 It kind of left a gap of, you know, unfinished business. 451 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:01,480 What could we do about it? 452 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,800 Is there any possible way we could get to Wagner? 453 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,720 And everybody said, "No, he's had his day in court, 454 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,120 walk away, move on." 455 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,760 - [Steve] But I just couldn't let it go. 456 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,320 [tense music] 457 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,560 - Wagner had likely been involved in this murder, 458 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,080 so we then started to try and gather evidence 459 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,480 to support that theory. 460 00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:43,240 We started to look at Manuel Wagner's background. 461 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,120 - Wagner had had a difficult childhood. 462 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,080 His mother had left him. 463 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,520 He'd gone to live with Kocher's mother at one point, 464 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,760 which led to them referring to each other as brothers. 465 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,760 He was a lot younger than the other men 466 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,800 and it seemed very much he was under the control of Kocher, 467 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,360 who was someone he looked up to and was eager to please. 468 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,040 - Manny took a liking to me, 469 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,960 which made things a little bit awkward. 470 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,040 Manny would knock on the door 471 00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:07,640 when he knew that Joe wasn't there 472 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,560 and try and show me his new sound equipment 473 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,240 or something he'd made on the computer 474 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,040 and he tried to lock me in on one of the days, 475 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:18,600 but I managed to run out and lock myself in my room 476 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,920 and then wait 'til Joe got home. 477 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,240 I was too scared to even go to the bathroom. 478 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,560 [suspenseful music] 479 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,920 It was scary. 480 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:28,920 It was really scary. 481 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:29,960 [suspenseful music] 482 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,080 - [Joe] I think since that day, 483 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,120 we kind of just avoided each other, didn't we? 484 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,160 - Yeah. 485 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,160 [suspenseful music] 486 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,560 After that, Manny would start playing music really loud, 487 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,080 obnoxiously slamming doors and just yelling to himself 488 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,240 and there was no one there. 489 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,480 [suspenseful music] 490 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,840 - There was times where he definitely seemed 491 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,800 the most unbalanced out of all 492 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,680 and he was going wayward more and more wayward. 493 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,680 [tense music] 494 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,280 Every year we'd have a bonfire night on the field 495 00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:02,480 and he would be there enjoying the fireworks, 496 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,400 but the last year before they moved away, 497 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,600 we had the children 'round the bonfire 498 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,720 and he was thrown all sorts of gas canisters 499 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,480 and anything what was just exploding on the fire. 500 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,600 Manny's reckless behavior that night, 501 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,680 we felt it was putting the kids in danger. 502 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,160 That was the last night we ever had a bonfire. 503 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,120 [suspenseful music] 504 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:31,960 - To all intents and purposes, 505 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,600 it appeared that this case was over 506 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,480 with the conclusion of the trials in 2014. 507 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,640 Wagner had been acquitted of his lesser role 508 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,480 of helping to dispose unlawfully of a body 509 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:41,640 and assisting an offender. 510 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,080 [brooding music] 511 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:48,160 - Reality was, the officers in the case were not content 512 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,720 to leave it at that. 513 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,520 - Wagner was never charged with murder. 514 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,680 He was only ever charged with preventing 515 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,760 the lawful burial of Christophe Borgye and he was acquitted. 516 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,560 - There was a lot of skepticism, I think, 517 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,720 that we would find sufficient evidence there 518 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,200 to persuade the CPS to consider a charge against Wagner. 519 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,120 This was about securing additional evidence, 520 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,200 finding more answers that we didn't have 521 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,440 and we conducted an exhaustive investigation 522 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,720 the first time 'round. 523 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,600 - We needed definite evidence that Wagner was involved 524 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,280 and the only way we could get that evidence 525 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:33,600 was from Sebastian. 526 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,680 [suspenseful music] 527 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,680 - The decision was made 528 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,240 that we would revisit Sebastian Bendou. 529 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:45,520 - We went back and over the course of four days, 530 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,280 we interviewed Bendou at length, 531 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,760 'cause we're only gonna get one chance to do this. 532 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,160 We've gotta get this right. 533 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,520 Bendou then started to give us key information 534 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,760 that we were unaware of from the first investigations. 535 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,640 - I'm sure that even Sebastian Bendou realized 536 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,480 that it wasn't right for Wagner to be on the outside 537 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,280 when the other two were on the in. 538 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,320 - [Anton] And all of the bits that we thought had happened 539 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,040 that we had no admissions for, 540 00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:18,480 he confirmed one after the other 541 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,920 and all the pieces of that puzzle were falling into place. 542 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,360 - And that's where we found out about the kill room. 543 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,320 [suspenseful music] 544 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,520 The kitchen that was just a normal domestic kitchen 545 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,560 had been transformed into the kill room. 546 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,040 [tense music] 547 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,920 On the 23rd of April, 2009, 548 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,960 when the three of them attack 549 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,880 and brutally murder Christophe Borgye. 550 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,920 - Bendou described in detail how the murder took place 551 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,720 in terms of the polythene being laid out 552 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,440 to avoid blood everywhere. 553 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,160 - They had overshoes on, they had latex gloves. 554 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,480 All of that was clearly designed to minimize 555 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,720 the risk of evidence leaving any forensic trace. 556 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,040 [suspenseful music] 557 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,520 - All three of them under Kocher's instruction 558 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,920 were going to lure Christophe into the kitchen 559 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,840 on the pretense that they were doing a spring clean. 560 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,880 - They prepared the weapons they would use 561 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,440 and Christophe was then called down to the kitchen, 562 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,680 unknowing that he was being called down to his death. 563 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,040 - All three of them were armed with knives 564 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,720 and Wagner had a hammer. 565 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,080 [tense music] 566 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,680 - They attacked him as soon as he came down 567 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,600 and into the kitchen. 568 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,280 - So they all had a go at Christophe 569 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,240 with a knife when he was on the floor 570 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,760 until the hammer blows came in. 571 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,480 [suspenseful music] 572 00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,680 - According to Bendou, 573 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,360 Wagner brought in the hammer with him. 574 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,360 That was not part of the original plan. 575 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,120 - Wagner had struck Christophe in the head with the hammer 576 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,720 and went on to hit him a further seven to eight times. 577 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,720 [suspenseful music] 578 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,000 - Christophe's skull was crushed in. 579 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,520 His head injuries were horrific. 580 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,200 [somber music] 581 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,160 - Manuel Wagner was the most willing participant of all. 582 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,080 It was he who brought the hammer to the scene. 583 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,680 He was the one who struck the first blow. 584 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,240 It was he who fractured Christophe's skull 585 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,680 and that blunt force trauma led to his death. 586 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,600 Bendou said that after the killing, 587 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,280 they covered up Christophe's body in the tarpaulin. 588 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,320 [ominous music] 589 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,000 They then disposed of the body 590 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,480 by carrying it into the outhouse in the backyard 591 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,440 and by building a small brick wall 592 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,280 and then covering it with three layers of cement. 593 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,720 [suspenseful music] 594 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,760 - It just looked like another step at the back. 595 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,080 You would never have guessed unless you knew. 596 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,200 [suspenseful music] 597 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,400 - One of the things we discovered 598 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,200 is that after they committed this murder 599 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,560 and buried the victim in the grave, 600 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,800 the three of them went for lunch. 601 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,360 [somber music] 602 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,600 - There was not enough evidence at that point 603 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,440 to charge Manuel Wagner with murder, 604 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,200 but Sebastian had told us an awful lot more 605 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,600 that we didn't know. 606 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,960 [somber music] 607 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,800 - Bendou disclosed to us that 608 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,360 when it's his turn with the hammer, 609 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,760 he's drawn it back and directed it 610 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,920 towards Christophe's head, but he's missed 611 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,520 and he has hit the kitchen work surfaces 612 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,320 with the claw end of the hammer. 613 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,400 - And as Bendou gets the hammer back out 614 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,000 in a jerking motion, 615 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,040 it's cracked Wagner on the side of the face. 616 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,520 - And we certainly didn't know about Wagner's facial injuries. 617 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,440 So when I go back into the kitchen, 618 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,520 lo and behold, there are two really small dents 619 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,280 in the kitchen work surface. 620 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,720 [somber music] 621 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,400 As you can imagine, in an investigation like this, 622 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,960 the amount of physical exhibits 623 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,840 to paperwork exhibits is colossal. 624 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,960 There was over 7,000 at one stage 625 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,280 and then that number just kept going up, up and up and up. 626 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,920 We had a lot of stuff from Facebook and pictures. 627 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,360 And what we're trying to do is find 628 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,920 if we've got anything in the timeframe 629 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,080 with Manny Wagner with an injury to his face. 630 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,480 It was a long shot, but lo and behold, 631 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,560 the DC who's looking at the photographs 632 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:47,120 finds a picture of Wagner with a bruise on his face, 633 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,760 which fits in in timeframe, location 634 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,280 and the nature and size of the bruises 635 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,600 to what Sebastian Bendou told us. 636 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,200 - We had a forensic expert look at that injury to confirm. 637 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,440 It was an injury consistent with bruising, 638 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,200 following a blow to the side of his face. 639 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,960 [suspenseful music] 640 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,840 - We were always pushing this rule of three, 641 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,560 the three knives, the three pair of overshoes, 642 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,400 them operating as a three, 643 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,640 and obviously Bendou being better and able to testify, 644 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,240 it put us in a much stronger position 645 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,240 in relation to Manny Wagner. 646 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,400 - We now had evidence that he'd committed murder 647 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,200 and therefore he could be charged. 648 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,480 - We locate him in a flat in Liverpool. 649 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,160 I arrest him for Christophe's murder. 650 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,000 He never ever thought that he would ever, ever get charged. 651 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,280 He had a particular arrogance about him, 652 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,280 bit of a know-it-all, always thought he was right. 653 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,080 - I suppose one of the highlights of my career 654 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,760 was ringing up the family 655 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,520 and telling them we have arrested, 656 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,000 charged and remanded Wagner for murder. 657 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:08,280 In the end, it was good to know that he would face justice, 658 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,080 because I think it would have been very difficult for us 659 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:16,560 to continue living our lives knowing that this person was still free. 660 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,880 I wasn’t satisfied until Wagner was convicted. 661 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,280 For me, all three of them needed to be punished. 662 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,360 [suspenseful music] 663 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,920 - Wagner appeared very cold and indifferent 664 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,240 when he gave evidence. 665 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:43,040 - Bendou was in effect, the star witness of that trial. 666 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,720 You're either gonna believe Sebastian Bendou or you're not. 667 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:46,840 It's that simple. 668 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,360 And that type of problematic witness comes 669 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,360 with a boatload of problems, as you can imagine. 670 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,720 - I remember there being good days 671 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,400 where the evidence was really strong 672 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,040 and then there were other days 673 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,800 where, you know, the evidence wasn't quite as strong 674 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,080 as we'd hoped and anticipated. 675 00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:09,880 - Bendou gave evidence saying that Wagner 676 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,520 had been part of the plan to murder Christophe 677 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,920 and that they planned it together with Kocher. 678 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,800 - Christophe having worked his last shift, 679 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,880 coming home late that night, 680 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,680 they get up that morning, all three of them, 681 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,560 knowing they're going to murder him. 682 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,440 - He said that Kocher had called Christophe down 683 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,640 from his bedroom 684 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,600 and that it was Wagner who'd struck the first blow 685 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,200 with the hammer as Christophe shouted, "Stop, stop!" 686 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,960 [suspenseful music] 687 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,520 - This was the graphic detail 688 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,840 that Bendou sat there telling us 689 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,520 about how that happened step-by-step. 690 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,600 [suspenseful music] 691 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,800 As we're getting these key bits of evidence 692 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,640 and information out of Bendou, 693 00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:53,920 we discovered an awful piece of the puzzle. 694 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,760 The original trial had centered 695 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,000 a lot around how the cement had been mixed 696 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,760 and it created a lot of debate and argument during the trial, 697 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,840 but here we were all these years on with Bendou confirming 698 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,400 that they'd ordered an electric cement mixer. 699 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,480 That information was fed back to the investigation team 700 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,000 and they went to the shop and found the receipt, 701 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,840 delivering that electric cement mixer 702 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,760 to the address that very morning of the murder. 703 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,680 - And the eerie thing about this, on the documentation, 704 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,960 it looks like Christophe had actually signed 705 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,040 for the cement mixer that was used to build his tomb. 706 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,240 - Christophe Borgye had gotten out of bed 707 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,120 and signed the receipt for that cement mixer, 708 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,840 which was ultimately used in his murder. 709 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,080 [brooding music] 710 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,840 The trial ran on for three weeks. 711 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:47,920 It's impossible not to have 712 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,320 some sense of emotion about this, 713 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:50,760 because you put yourself in the position 714 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:51,880 of the victim's family. 715 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,160 What would I expect? 716 00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:54,360 What would I want? 717 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,720 [brooding music] 718 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,880 - When the jury were bringing back the verdict, 719 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,600 you could have heard a pin drop in that court, 720 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,640 'cause me and the team were on edge, as you can imagine. 721 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,320 - Whilst we knew everything inside and out, 722 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,320 it was about what the jury were listening to, 723 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,960 how they were gonna be convinced. 724 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,560 [tense music] 725 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,840 - And thankfully, the jury came back with guilty. 726 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,640 - That trial and the jury's verdict 727 00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:26,480 came back faster than the other two 728 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,280 and he was convicted of murder. 729 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,880 - The jury saw through his lies 730 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,080 and he was jailed for life 731 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,960 with a minimum of 16 years in prison. 732 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,680 [somber music] 733 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:40,240 - We were elated when Wagner got convicted. 734 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,080 That was a bit of closure. 735 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,880 There was not one that got away for us as an inquiry team. 736 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,120 It was the right result. 737 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,400 - And at that point you could say, 738 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,880 "Yeah, now we've done our job." 739 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,000 - By the time it came to the final trial, 740 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,640 the trial of Manuel Wagner, 741 00:37:57,720 --> 00:38:00,400 and it was eight years since the murder itself had taken place, 742 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,760 which really shows the painstaking levels of the police investigation 743 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,560 and all the twists and turns that this case took. 744 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,480 - This is down to the persistence of the police officers 745 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,840 who were not prepared to let this man get away with it. 746 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,920 On the one hand, it was a relief to know that at least 747 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,280 they were judged for what they did. 748 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:29,640 But on the other hand, it wasn’t enough for me. 749 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,920 It will never be enough compared to what they did. 750 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:44,400 I just hope those three people truly understand what they’ve done. 751 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,920 I don’t know what’s in their heads, unfortunately we’ll never know. 752 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:55,440 But I hope they realise the pain they’ve caused. 753 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,640 [somber music] 754 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,680 [suspenseful music] 755 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,760 - We looked at a number of reasons why these three 756 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,400 would jointly plan to kill Christophe, 757 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,160 and we always kept coming back to the financial side of it, 758 00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:18,000 what Kocher was going to lose. 759 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,600 [suspenseful music] 760 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,600 - Christophe Borgye was planning to move abroad 761 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,280 and paying his wages into Kocher's account. 762 00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:29,560 - He was the bread winner, was Christophe. 763 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:31,960 He was bringing in money. 764 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,480 [suspenseful music] 765 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,640 - I think Kocher thought that he could manipulate Christophe 766 00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:40,320 in the same way that he manipulated Wagner 767 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,160 and Bendou by taking their money, 768 00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:48,960 and when Kocher realized that Christophe wanted out, 769 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,240 that was the trigger point for him killing him. 770 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,400 - They had decided to turn the kitchen into a kill room. 771 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:56,800 Kocher was the orchestrator, 772 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,440 but they were all involved in it. 773 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,560 - What he said went, if he said, 774 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,600 "We'll kill him," they all had to kill him. 775 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:06,760 - But what we didn't know 776 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:11,960 is the main reason Sebastian Bendou came forward. 777 00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:15,600 Council called the beating heart underneath the floorboards, 778 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,240 which I get. 779 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:22,000 I mean, he was living feet from his friend's body. 780 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,040 He was still living in the kitchen on a day-to-day basis, 781 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,440 and it was messing with his head. 782 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,400 And when they fled to Scotland, 783 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,360 Bendou's heard a conversation 784 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:41,040 where Wagner and Kocher are talking about him. 785 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,600 He's considered to be the weakest link 786 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,120 of that chain of three. 787 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,480 So that's the real reason why Bendou came forward. 788 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,600 He thought he was next in line for the same treatment, 789 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,720 because he was wobbling with his mental health 790 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,800 and his weakness. 791 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,880 [suspenseful music] 792 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,560 [bright music] 793 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,040 - We were allowed back in the property 794 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,200 to get the remainder of our items. 795 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:12,880 It was scary. 796 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,480 As soon as you find out that your housemates are murderers 797 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,080 and that you stayed with them 798 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,920 and that their victim was on the property the entire time. 799 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,960 [gentle music] 800 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,880 I think the entire experience 801 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,040 was eye-opening in the very worst way. 802 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:30,920 Are you okay, you're shaking? 803 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,560 [gentle music] 804 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,480 - We never went back to the house. 805 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,560 We never lived in there again after that. 806 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,120 We stayed well away from it. 807 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,080 [gentle music continues] 808 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,760 - Do you know, all of the inquiries and all of the background 809 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,160 and the history I delved into around Christophe, 810 00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:53,960 there was never a bad word said about him. 811 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,680 There was, you know, he never harmed anybody. 812 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,400 He never mistrusted anybody. 813 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,200 - Such a nice lad, such a quiet, happy lad. 814 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:05,800 Then you think to yourself, 815 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,160 "What did that poor lad do deserve anything like that?" 816 00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:12,920 He just wanted to be happy and just live a normal life. 817 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,160 [somber music] 818 00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:19,640 - There was a service in Liverpool Cathedral for him. 819 00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:21,800 So I went over. 820 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,320 There was ladies there that worked with him 821 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,840 and they said they couldn't believe what had happened to him. 822 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,640 [somber music] 823 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:30,560 And to think that his friends, 824 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,160 his so-called friends could have done it to him. 825 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,920 I was horrified, because everybody thought 826 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,960 he was such a nice, young man, and he was. 827 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,640 He was a nice young man. 828 00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:45,280 [gentle music] 829 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,120 - It was difficult for the family, 830 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,280 because I suppose for them, 831 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,400 they'd always imagined that one day Christophe 832 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,600 would just reappear and you know, 833 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,120 they'd get to see him again. 834 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,240 There's that photograph that the family gave of him, 835 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,440 standing there with his glasses and the countryside behind 836 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,280 and all you can see is loss, 837 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,920 unfulfilled potential. 838 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,360 Who he would've gone on to be. 839 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,080 If things had gone as planned, 840 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:23,120 he would have traveled more. He had so many plans. 841 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,360 Maybe he would have married, had kids. 842 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,320 It would have been amazing 843 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:33,200 for him to meet his first nephew, Noël’s son, the firstborn. 844 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,480 And later, when I became a mother, knowing that he could have 845 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,360 been an uncle to my son too. 846 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,800 There were so many beautiful things he could have experienced. 847 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:49,440 I think there are so many things he missed, 848 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,720 but I think he would be proud of us today 849 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,800 and of what we’ve done without him. 850 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,440 - There's certain things that stick with you, 851 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,440 and Christophe's murder is one of them. 852 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,760 It was the brutal nature in which he was attacked, 853 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,320 how he was disposed of, 854 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,400 the arrogance of the attempted coverup. 855 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,080 - Christophe was just living his life 856 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,840 and unfortunately, due to chance and circumstance, 857 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,920 his life collided with those of Kocher, Bendou and Wagner. 858 00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:36,200 I think they sold everything or destroyed it. They had to erase all trace 859 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,000 to make it seem like he had voluntarily disappeared. 860 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:46,480 We have nothing. No photo albums, no personal items. 861 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:53,000 Not even his glasses. We have nothing of Christophe. 862 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,560 But we remember him, and that’s what matters. 863 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,120 We should remember his fun, lively side 864 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,840 and keep the good memories he gave us. 865 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,440 The death of my brother wasn’t a normal death. 866 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:20,400 He was murdered and that has affected me deeply. 867 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:28,240 For me, those three people will always carry a label around their necks 868 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,400 for what they did, for the harm they caused, 869 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,160 the emptiness they left in our family. 870 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:44,920 Sometimes I see someone on the street, just a jacket, a colour, 871 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,120 or someone who looks like him. 872 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,600 I turn around thinking it’s him. But it’s not. 873 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,920 [somber music] 874 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,720 - There's no happy ending to this for anybody, 875 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,080 particularly the Borgye family. 876 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,640 The best that you can say for them 877 00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:03,440 is that they've got some closure 878 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,960 and that three people are serving life sentences 879 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,280 for having committed the horrendous act. 880 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,760 So, you know, life moves on, 881 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,680 but it'll stay with us for the rest of our days, 882 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,600 and that's why it's important the story was told. 883 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,280 [somber music] 884 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,840 [tense music] 66251

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