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The standoff took place this morning in
front of this house after police say
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they responded to reports of a shooting.
85 -year -old Jeanette B. Kraft was
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killed yesterday morning at a home. You
want to say that nothing in wrestling
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surprises you?
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The former professional wrestler is now
accused of shooting and killing his
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wife. That's surprising.
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And then all of a sudden the news broke.
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It's Billy Jack.
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He just electrifies the crowd and they
love him. What? Billy Jack did what?
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I could have believed it, but I didn't.
I didn't want to believe it.
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Billy Jack Haynes!
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Years before this shocking crime, Billy
Jack Haynes had lived the dream, rising
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from Oregon's regional circuit to
stardom in wrestling's golden age of the
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1980s. Portland, Oregon, Billy Jack
Haynes!
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Billy Jack had everything, all the tools
to be a top professional wrestler.
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His career was in reverse. He started as
a star, and he finished as a nobody.
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But Billy Jack's dealings outside the
ring hinted at a mysterious life, one
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almost too extraordinary to believe.
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Billy said he had been involved in the
drug business as a collector and
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enforcer. When I was in Portland, I was
about a kilo a day cocaine dealer.
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Billy has made many, many claims.
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I was contracted to go down there to
kill two Arkansas State police officers.
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You don't know fact from fiction with
Billy Jack Haynes. I kept that secret
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everybody.
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Now, as the former star faces murder
charges, those who knew Billy Jack
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look back on the road that led him here.
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So Billy Jack was his own worst enemy.
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He didn't even know it.
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He was a loaded gun, brother. You never
know what he's thinking.
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You know, a lot of guys fall hard in
wrestling, but he fell harder than most.
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without a doubt.
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What did he do?
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People now in the present day are trying
to go back because of what's happened
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with Billy and trying to figure out
where did this start?
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We knew one day Billy Jack would do
something crazy, but we never thought it
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would be that crazy.
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It shot me, and then again it didn't.
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And I don't know if you can understand
that.
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That's one thing where when Billy messed
up, he messed up.
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Final mess up.
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I guess if you took everything and laid
it on the table, you could see it coming
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up.
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Before his recent murder charge, Billy
Jack's past reveals other crimes,
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including two assault charges before
he's 30.
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But the same mean streak that gets him
into trouble also creates new
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opportunities in the wrestling business.
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Billy Jack Haynes was a thug.
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He was a street fighter. He was a boxer,
a wrestler.
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Tough guy, don't get me wrong.
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My dad found him as a gym rat, and he's
below that now.
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All his bios say he was trained by Stu
Hart.
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Stu Hart threw him out of Canada because
he was too rough and beat all his boys
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up.
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So he was back being a gym rat in
Portland, Oregon when my dad and the
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Dave Sierra found him.
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Well, he came to the Portland Sports
Arena looking for work.
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And we got him hooked up.
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He looked unreal. He was like, you know,
jacked to the match.
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Me and Rip the Crippler Oliver talked to
promoter Don Owens into using him. We
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knew with that size body and his home
being the Pacific Northwest that we can
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draw money with him.
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Billy Jack Haynes. He fit the part, and
everybody was giving him a chance.
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In 1982,
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Billy rockets to the top with a persona
tailor -made for fans in the Pacific
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Northwest. Billy Jack's gimmick and look
came from the movie Billy Jack,
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starring Tom Laughlin, about the ex
-serviceman who was a karate expert and
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loner.
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He was a dangerous man, but soft
-spoken, but don't cross him.
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Billy Jack, whose look, physique, the
aura, and the presence he had, the fans
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went crazy for him.
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like he was their very own hometown
movie star.
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The Portland, Oregon boy is coming out
victorious!
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So Billy Jack was a very effective
babyface promo guy for Portland, Oregon.
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Thank you, everybody in Portland, for
supporting me. I love you. Thank you.
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Nice guy, loved his father, loved
Oregon, loved Portland. You know what I
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And he was Billy Jack from the movie,
trying to get revenge on these different
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heels. Make a little bit more noise, and
I'll get it for you. Let's go!
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Everyone knew he was the rising star.
You know, the 80s was all about the
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He had the look.
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And I'm sure all the fans here are going
to like this man, Billy Jack Haynes.
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What a fantastic build on this young
man, Johnny. They loved him, you know.
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Every time Billy Jack was on the card,
sold out. From the time he first stepped
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foot in the ring, he was featured. He
was pushed by the promoters.
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Small territory?
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Pushed him.
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Went to a bigger territory?
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Pushed him.
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I know Billy Jack Haynes from the
territory days when he came to Florida
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Temperature Wrestling.
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He was pretty laid back, kind of a low
-key guy and a loner.
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My name's Bill Fonte Alfonso, and I've
been in the wrestling business for 45
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years.
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I don't want to use the word oddball,
but he was kind of different from all
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wrestlers.
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We'd go out to the after party, have
cocktails and drink and smoke a joint
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so on. Billy Jack would go with the fans
and their kids to pizza and have pizza
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with them.
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The fans loved him. He loved the fans.
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He was committed.
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After just four years of working in
smaller promotions, Billy Jack Haynes
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the call in 1986 from Vince McMahon's
World Wrestling Federation.
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From Portland, Oregon. If you wanted to
go deep into Vince McMahon's mind and
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create a professional wrestler based on
what he thought they should look like,
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Billy Jack was the guy.
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Now I'm here in the WWF. It's the World
Wrestling Federation.
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And believe me, I know full well this is
where the stiffest and the toughest
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competition is.
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He wrestled in that Detroit WrestleMania
they had over 100 ,000 people show up.
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Billy Jack! Hey!
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For a wrestler, that's the top of the
mountain.
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Billy needed a tag
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team partner to elevate his persona.
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So it worked out good. It worked out
real good.
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This is Ken Patera coming straight at
you. And I used to wrestle with Billy
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Haynes.
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His appearance was, don't with me. How's
that?
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Well, we weren't told anything about the
gimmick.
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Pat Patterson came in the locker room
and said, well, we got chainsaws and you
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guys are the Oregon Lumberjacks now.
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And they wanted us to crank those
chainsaws up so they were actually
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I said, are you...
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I'm not going to turn this chainsaw on,
you know, so somebody could get an arm
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cut off.
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Billy had a super nice personality and
everything, soft spoken and whatnot.
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The nicest guy you'd ever want to meet.
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But the gloss wears off after a while.
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All respects, Billy Jack had a fantastic
body, stayed in shape. But upstairs,
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brother, that's a different story.
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Everyone knows me in pro wrestling as
the grappler. I wrestled Billy Jack
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many times.
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He's one of those guys you never know
what he's going to try.
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I never could trust him.
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He's always the side, you know, he's mad
about something and all of a sudden
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knocks the hell out of you.
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He was an off -the -hinge type
character.
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His finishing maneuver would be the full
Nelson, and once he locked that full
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Nelson in you, you felt like he was
going to break your neck.
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Once you gave up, he would just sling
you, I mean, like a piece
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of trash to the side.
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In the locker room, he had a reputation
for boom.
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I could see in his eyes he was like a
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. I've seen him
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snap several times.
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One night we're in Florida.
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The match is over, and Percy Pringle was
Roode's manager.
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And Billy Jack came in, and he didn't
like the way the finish went. He walks
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and slaps the piss out of Percy Pringle.
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He goes, this guy screwed up the finish,
you idiot.
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That was his mentality. That's the way
he handled things.
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We did a show, and Smirnoff pulled a
fire alarm.
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Got us in trouble.
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Next thing I know, Billy done face
-locked, smeared off, smeared off, went
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the bathroom himself.
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It was so bad.
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In Tampa, some smart -ass guy was
checking Billy Jack out. Said, oh, all
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fake bullshit, I could kick ass.
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I remember snatching him in the headlock
and punching him in the face about 20
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times really quick.
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Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam,
bam.
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He'd beat the hell out of the person and
then kick right out of it like nothing
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happened. He did it because he could. I
mean, right there, I've noticed this
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guy's a bully.
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He takes on who he knows he can handle.
You know, so I didn't respect that.
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He went to jail on two or three
occasions, I believe, for beating people
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But he always said they deserved it.
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Oregon men don't back down to nobody.
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You know, he's got a heart, but then
he's got the other side, you know, where
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you screw him over.
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He'll come in your house, pull you out,
beat you to death.
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I would never think that the Billy Jack
that I knew in the 80s would have ended
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up doing what he did.
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Police have now confirmed a woman was
found dead and a man was taken into
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custody after an hours -long police
standoff.
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There's a whole lot that people don't
know about me.
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And the law isn't always right.
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The law isn't always wrong.
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Believe half the way you hear and
nothing the way you see.
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I'm Billy Jack Haynes from the World
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Wrestling Federation and a 14 -year pro.
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Good to talk to you.
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Right now, I'm in the Loma County
Justice Center jail.
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I've been incarcerated six months.
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What I'm talking to you guys today about
is one small percentage of my life, and
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there's a whole big part of my life I'm
leaving out here. The position I'm in
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right now, it's hard for me to bring up
anything and talk about it.
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And I have my attorney out there, so I'm
glad that he's here today.
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It's a second -degree murder.
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And it's just way overcharged, and that
didn't happen.
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There's only really two human beings I
really love. That was my father, who was
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blind and in a wheelchair.
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And then the other was my wife, who
allegedly I murdered, which you're going
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find I didn't.
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And I loved her more than life.
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Coal resting isn't work. We all know
that.
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But we took it real serious back when we
were in it.
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Look at the blood just spewing out of
the forehead.
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I don't want to be negative towards
anybody in this industry. You know, I
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I respect the wrestlers so much. But,
you know, they don't know me.
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Throughout his wrestling career, Billy
Jack Haynes remains distant, private to
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the point of secrecy.
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He was not the life of the party, the
life of the locker room. He wasn't
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friends hand over fist.
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He was just that big guy over there.
It's like something's going on.
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Billy Jack was a true loner. Then I
realized he was very manipulative.
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He always had an agenda, and you never
knew what he was up to.
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We'd go check in at the hotel there.
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Five minutes later, Billy would be gone.
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And he did that every night. I didn't
know what he was doing.
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At that time, I was really heavy into
the narcotics, into the painkillers.
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Uppers, lowers, I mean, you name it, you
couldn't survive without it. I was five
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days a week in and out of airports.
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Different cities.
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340 nights a year.
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I took 20, sometimes 25 pills a day.
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Vicodin, Percocet. It got in the way of
resting on my life.
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All you beautiful children, drugs are
negative.
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You are a positive influence for the
world. I love you very much. Say no to
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drugs.
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Drugs are no good, you know. It's not
good.
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Well, we're at the Oakland Coliseum in a
tag team.
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Time for the match.
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Billy's nowhere to be found.
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About an hour later, all the matches
were over, and here comes Billy.
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Oh, he looked like hell.
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I said, Billy, you missed the match.
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Completely out of it.
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McMahon said that he was going to give
us a big push, and I think we can throw
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that out the window.
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How did it come to an end at WWF in your
run?
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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What did you think about that on the
plane?
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Did he let you talk about that?
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Well, it happened.
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Now, what I heard is that he overdosed
on some codeine, I think.
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He was foaming at the mouth. He was
jerking.
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We had that murky landing.
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They thought he was dying.
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I was this close away from death, and
they had to jumpstart me twice, and I'd
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gone. You know, and with WWF, I mean,
it's like they don't want that bad
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publicity getting out. You know what I
mean? And that was the final straw.
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He was never in the top spot in
WrestleMania.
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He was never a major singles champion.
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And after about a year and a half, he
was fired by the WWF.
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Returning to Portland, Billy Jack shocks
his former colleagues by turning on the
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promoter who made him.
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But everybody knows that the state of
Oregon has the number one wrestling fan
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the world.
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The Oregon Wrestling Federation is what
Billy Jack wanted to open so he could be
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Vince McMahon of the Pacific Northwest.
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That was his word.
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OWF was going to be his baby.
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We said, Billy, Don Owens made you, and
now you're opening a company against
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him?
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And I couldn't believe it. You got to
have money to back that.
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sponsors and all that.
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You know, somebody's got some deep
pockets if you want to try to do that.
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I was there two weeks, and the shows
that were running weren't drawing
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There was a couple hundred people in the
audience, so it kind of fizzed out
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pretty quick. And I got a check on
Friday, and he said, Ponzi, can you
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not cash it until Monday?
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So I knew I was in trouble.
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And I went right to the bank and cashed
it, and I left.
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Finally, one day we come in. He said,
I'm closing, guys.
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And that was it.
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The collapse of the Oregon Wrestling
Federation was pretty spectacular.
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Billy Jack Haynes really left a lot of
guys hanging, and there was a lot of bad
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blood. It hurt Billy's reputation with a
lot of people.
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That was my bad due to the fact that my
head wasn't screwed on right, and
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probably a little bit to do with the
pills, too.
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Struggling with addiction and running
out of allies.
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In 1996, Haynes' once promising career
crashes to a halt.
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Just a shame and a pity because he had
to whirl by the stream.
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He never became the star to the
magnitude of what people had predicted.
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By the time his wrestling career was
over, nobody trusted him, and all that
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potential just dribbled away with it.
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Though his wrestling days may be over,
it doesn't take long for Billy Jack to
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find his way back into the spotlight.
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He's a little strange, a little
standoffish, sometimes a little off
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whatever. He's kind of weird. And
suddenly you saw him a few years later
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there started to be this change.
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In retirement, Billy Jack hits the
interview circuit revealing a shocking
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detail. While in wrestling...
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He'd been living a secret double life of
crime.
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Starting way back in the 70s, I was
about a kilo a day cocaine dealer, and I
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kept that secret from everybody.
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I just wanted to go in and actually do
something in the pro wrestling industry
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instead of a drug runner, leg breaker,
and worse.
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I mean, making 30 grand a week, I lit a
lot of guys up, and a lot of guys got
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addicted to the cocaine that I sold
them.
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Very nefarious things went on back in
the 80s.
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In 2017,
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Billy Jack makes an even more shocking
claim, linking himself to a famous
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unsolved murder.
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It's been over 30 years since two
teenage boys were found dead on these
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in Saline County. The tracks are still
here, and so is the mystery regarding
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what happened. What's new is the
witnesses come forward.
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I helped put the kids on the tracks.
They were already dead. They'd been
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murdered.
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Well, over 30 years ago, a Union Pacific
train ran over two Saline County
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teenagers. The deaths of Kevin Ives and
Don Henry have become one of Arkansas'
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most notorious mysteries.
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There was a famous murder case in
Arkansas back in the 80s where these two
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teenage boys were run over by a train,
is what they thought originally
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In the pre -dawn hours of August 23rd,
1987, a 75 -car cargo train made its
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regular night run to Little Rock,
Arkansas.
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Its engineer, Stephen Shroyd, drew
closer. He made the horrifying discovery
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two boys were lying motionless across
the railroad tracks.
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Well, then somebody else investigated,
found that they had been beaten, they
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injuries. They weren't just run over by
a train.
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Then Billy Jack started claiming...
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That he was there and saw the murder
because these two teenagers wandered
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drug deal.
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His story, the drug people wanted him to
supervise the drug drop and payoff to
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make sure that everything goes OK.
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And he was going to videotape it also.
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And he said, I wore a wrestling mask.
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I've been around the dope game for a
long time.
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I went down there by myself after I
wrestled King Kong Bundy. We went to the
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tracks. The drop was made.
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Apparently, these kids wandered up on
it, and as a result, the drug people
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killed them and put them on the railroad
tracks.
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They were just in the wrong place at the
wrong time.
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I helped put the kids on the tracks. No,
I was there.
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I helped.
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They'd been murdered. They were already
dead.
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The judge is going to come out to this
woman, Linda Ayers, to have a light.
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Billy Jack's claims about the unsolved
murders are taken seriously by the
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of one of the victims, as well as by the
family's private investigator.
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I mean, there is no good reason to
insert yourself into a murder case.
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He has nothing to gain and everything to
lose.
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He's put himself in jeopardy, not only
his freedom, but also his life. They're
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hopeful that law enforcement will now
take a look.
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As Billy Jack continued sharing his
story, other details sound increasingly
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unbelievable.
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There was drops that were being stolen,
cocaine drops.
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I was sent down there to take care of
two state police officers from Arkansas.
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But it was an inside job.
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He told me that he was running with one
of the biggest drug dealers in the
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country. I've dealt drugs at the highest
level you can. That's uncut coke.
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Well, in the beginning, when I first
started hearing the stories, I thought,
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come on, Billy, really?
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But when it gets right down to it, he
can prove it.
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He brought it all out in an interview on
several occasions, as a matter of fact.
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The things that he said about it and all
this stuff is all verifiable, but
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that's about all I can say about it.
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I can't talk about it.
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I'd love to, but I can't. But haven't
you told that story so many times?
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I wish I could talk to you guys. I
can't.
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Well, can you tell me without getting
into details?
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Is it true?
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Did you hear that?
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That is probably a subject you should
move on.
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Leave it alone.
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As Billy Jack's interview appearances
become more frequent, His claims extend
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far beyond drug dealing and the boys on
the track.
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And many begin to wonder what's behind
it.
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He looked completely
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ridiculous. And then he had this white
hair, but it was like a mop top cut,
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he was Pete Best, the fifth Beatle.
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My mother and my uncle, when I was 15,
were both murdered. There was two
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politicians.
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that were involved.
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And he started concocting these stories
where he was in the middle of a variety
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of newsworthy events.
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Andy Gibb had a gig in San Francisco,
and one of my first big deliveries was
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there to the concert.
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I delivered one kilo to him, July 31st,
1978.
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Some say, well, he knows stuff that
nobody else knows.
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Well, the dude studies shit, I can tell
you that.
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And that's how nutty he was.
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He don't have nothing better to do but
to try to find his way to make himself
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back in the scene.
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I had cocaine from the leading cartel in
Columbia. So I started making more
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money. The Clintons are involved too.
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Well, now, was he a drug enforcer for
the Clintons?
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Why the f*** would Bill Clinton call
Billy Jack Haynes? Yeah, that's stupid.
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I took it for a grand assault.
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He had to be on some good drugs to think
that.
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But then the question becomes, where was
the bizarre behavior originating?
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Conspiracy theories and being the
Forrest Gump of crime, it not only
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preposterous, but there was no upside to
him. It was just interviews and being
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done with this kooky old man that people
would put up on the Internet.
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I've wanted to know who my real dad is
for a long time, whether it's Lenny
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Montana, whether it's... Vince McMahon
Sr., which it could have been, because
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supposedly had sex with my mother.
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This Sr. could be my father. There's a
long history to that. I don't know if we
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can get into it today or not.
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Claiming to be the son of Vince McMahon
Sr., you know, aside from being
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ridiculous, that's unbelievable that
someone even tried to pass that off.
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When I heard stuff like that, I would
say, man, Billy's really losing it.
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causing Billy Jack to make up stuff
that's obviously not true?
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9 -11 was an inside job, no question
about it. All you have to do in this
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is follow the money.
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So this isn't going to make the Bush
family too happy, but they're involved
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He did look like someone that would say
anything just to be on a podcast, get
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more money out of that podcast.
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I'm not afraid to come in front of this
camera and tell you the truth.
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And either you're going to believe it or
you're not going to believe it.
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The idea was if you tell crazy stories,
there will be an appetite for more, even
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though it's all bullshit.
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You're probably going to be looking at a
dead man.
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Maybe by the time this video gets out.
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Everything I've said can get me killed.
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Everything I've said with Vince can get
me killed.
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One preposterous thing in wrestling can
be true. With some people, a couple of
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preposterous things can be true.
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But when you're just pulling shit out of
your ass over and over.
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then even if one or two of those things
is true, nobody's going to believe them.
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Amid all of the astonishing claims Billy
Jack makes, at least one truth stands
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out.
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January 10, 2006, there was attempted
murder on me.
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Once again, I'm speaking for the people.
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Onto the ground right now, they can't
speak for themselves. So let me do it,
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please. From 2006 to 2023, Billy Jack
Haynes makes a series of shocking
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statements and explosive accusations.
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Vincent K. McMahon.
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I call it Vincent Killer McMahon.
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Yeah, that's right. You're a killer.
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Though many of Billy Jack's stories are
dismissed as conspiracy theories, a
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violent incident in 2006 suggests that
Billy Jack's ties to organized crime may
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be legitimate.
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This is the file from the work I did 16
years ago.
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Police reports, letters from Billy Jack,
and a couple photos of Billy in the
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hospital.
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At the time, I was writing a column for
the Portland Tribune. And so next thing
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I knew, Billy Jack is knocking on my
door.
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He looked like Frankenstein's monster.
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He'd just gotten out of the hospital.
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He'd had several bones in his face
broken. He had stitches, as I recall. We
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down. And he started telling me his
story, basically that he'd been called
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to Jimmy Longoria's car lot.
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The Longoria family was certainly one of
the more prominent Portland crime
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families. Billy had been a bill
collector, and he said he delivered
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the Longorias. What have you got? What
is all this stuff?
434
00:28:47,740 --> 00:28:53,260
Yeah, these are letters from Billy Jack
from months after he came to my place.
435
00:28:53,800 --> 00:29:00,520
On January 10, 2006, I was set up for a
hit or to be killed by two
436
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,580
hitmen hired by Jimmy Longoria.
437
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,140
I drove through the open gate at the
time scheduled 9 a .m. and I parked
438
00:29:07,140 --> 00:29:11,600
30 feet inside the lot where I met a man
and asked where I could find Jimmy
439
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,860
Longoria. The man motioned over his left
and Jimmy Longoria was sitting at the
440
00:29:15,860 --> 00:29:19,580
desk with his hands behind his head with
a very cocky look on his face.
441
00:29:19,780 --> 00:29:22,240
I said, you're going to kill me, aren't
you?
442
00:29:23,820 --> 00:29:27,960
It was then, I believe, that Jimmy told
me that paybacks are a bitch, Billy
443
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:33,220
Jack. I remember looking at the office
windows and seeing four men, and I
444
00:29:33,220 --> 00:29:34,220
thought I was a dead man.
445
00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:37,700
It was very clear that two guys attacked
him.
446
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,000
They beat him so badly that he had to
play dead.
447
00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:44,380
He knew they wanted to kill him.
448
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,200
They said I would have been dead. The
instinct reaction saved me. Probably one
449
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,100
little instinct I have left to save me.
450
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,640
Jimmy Longoria had a pretty airtight
alibi.
451
00:29:58,300 --> 00:30:05,140
He said two tweakers came onto his lot
and provoked Billy into a fight.
452
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,940
He said he'd never seen him before and
couldn't identify him.
453
00:30:08,340 --> 00:30:10,380
I think they probably worked for
Longoria.
454
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:16,400
The surveillance cameras somehow had not
been working, which was, of course,
455
00:30:16,420 --> 00:30:17,420
very suspicious.
456
00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:20,340
I cannot see out of my right eye.
457
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,000
You want to look, you can focus in here,
my eye.
458
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:31,640
Billy said it was retribution for 15 or
16 years before, when he had ripped off
459
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,660
$200 ,000.
460
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,880
He'd been a courier back and forth from
Portland to Los Angeles, taking coke one
461
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:38,940
way and money the other.
462
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,640
Let's just say in the 80s, I transported
drugs.
463
00:30:42,940 --> 00:30:48,940
I had a 1986 Toyota 4x4. They put the
built -in cabinet of a toolbox.
464
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:55,080
On the way back, he broke into the
toolbox, saw $1 ,200 ,000, figured that
465
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,540
,000 should belong to him.
466
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,540
I gave him the million bucks. I took my
$200 ,000.
467
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,600
Billy said this beating was retribution
for that.
468
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,680
I think he ripped off the Longoria's. I
think that much is true.
469
00:31:12,060 --> 00:31:16,360
But the idea that they would have waited
16 years didn't make any sense to me at
470
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,360
all.
471
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,160
There are also rumors that Billy Jack's
organized crime connections might have
472
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,820
been involved in his short -lived
promotion in the late 1980s.
473
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,440
I've heard rumors. I don't know. It's
something about the mafia, but I don't
474
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,440
know anything about that.
475
00:31:40,020 --> 00:31:46,360
What I understood, he had cricket
sponsors, and they seen a bunch of money
476
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,360
getting lost fast.
477
00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:51,980
And they just all one by one pulled out,
and that's why I think his promotion
478
00:31:51,980 --> 00:31:53,300
folded even faster.
479
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,420
A lot of people that open wrestling
promotions get into that because that's
480
00:31:59,420 --> 00:32:00,700
easiest way to clean money.
481
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,220
As far as the money coming from
nefarious characters, it's very
482
00:32:05,660 --> 00:32:09,020
He had a very dark life, and he probably
had some very dark friends.
483
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:19,520
I'm generally sympathetic to oddball
characters like Billy Jack, but he was a
484
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,380
puzzling character. When we were having
lunch one day, I mentioned the 30 -year
485
00:32:24,380 --> 00:32:27,520
-old murder of corrections official
Michael Franke.
486
00:32:28,540 --> 00:32:33,560
I explained the case to him. We went on
to something else, and about two months
487
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:38,940
later, Billy Jack sends me something,
all of a sudden claiming to have been
488
00:32:38,940 --> 00:32:41,900
involved and a witness to the Michael
Franke killing.
489
00:32:42,860 --> 00:32:46,000
He didn't know anything about Michael
Franke before I told him.
490
00:32:46,340 --> 00:32:51,720
In 1991, on May 1st, on my dad's
birthday, the murder of Michael Franke,
491
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,540
forced out of Oregon, or my dad would be
killed, I was told.
492
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:01,640
I think maybe he convinced himself that
he was involved, that he had actually
493
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:02,640
seen the assassination.
494
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:09,580
He was collecting newspaper articles,
police reports, and marking them up. The
495
00:33:09,580 --> 00:33:10,980
whole page would be colored.
496
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,800
He always had his binders and his shit.
I don't know what was in it, but he had
497
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,380
them. He always had them.
498
00:33:17,860 --> 00:33:19,760
It's just documentation, is all I can
say.
499
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,860
It's not my place to go into those kinds
of things.
500
00:33:23,740 --> 00:33:28,220
Right now as we speak, I'm writing an
autobiography with one of the best
501
00:33:28,220 --> 00:33:29,220
in the world.
502
00:33:29,420 --> 00:33:34,860
It's something in there when people
read, you'll see it's documented, and it
503
00:33:34,860 --> 00:33:36,600
or may not get me killed, I don't know.
504
00:33:37,060 --> 00:33:38,640
He had quite a bit of stuff in there,
yeah.
505
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,220
At that point, it was sort of hands -off
for me. I just sort of back away from
506
00:33:43,220 --> 00:33:47,520
the case and say, I don't know what
parts of this are true and what parts
507
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:53,140
aren't. The beating was certainly for
real. The involvement in the coke
508
00:33:53,140 --> 00:33:55,320
was almost certainly quite real.
509
00:33:56,060 --> 00:33:58,920
The rest, I don't know.
510
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,280
He talked like he believed it.
511
00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:05,320
Even as nutty as Billy Jack Eames was,
did I think that...
512
00:34:05,530 --> 00:34:09,010
You know, he'd be 70 years old and SWAT
team would be outside of Billy Jack
513
00:34:09,010 --> 00:34:10,010
Haynes' house.
514
00:34:10,590 --> 00:34:13,650
There's a reason you're in trouble a lot
because you just gravitate to Trump.
515
00:34:13,810 --> 00:34:17,310
This matter is going to be page 22, line
3 of Mr. Haynes.
516
00:34:22,230 --> 00:34:27,969
By 2019, Billy Jack Haynes is living a
nomadic lifestyle, making rare interview
517
00:34:27,969 --> 00:34:28,969
appearances.
518
00:34:29,750 --> 00:34:30,989
I wore Oregon here.
519
00:34:32,090 --> 00:34:33,510
There. Take that.
520
00:34:34,110 --> 00:34:35,630
Or you can stick it up your ass.
521
00:34:35,989 --> 00:34:40,330
He'd been a non -entity in the wrestling
world for 25 years.
522
00:34:42,270 --> 00:34:48,290
By the time he started just being the
weird person that we've seen in modern
523
00:34:48,290 --> 00:34:52,210
times, I think you'd almost have to say
he was on some kind of substance.
524
00:34:52,969 --> 00:34:56,150
I heard that he was having financial
difficulties.
525
00:34:56,690 --> 00:34:59,090
You think you're on top of the world,
and the next day you turn around and
526
00:34:59,090 --> 00:35:00,670
you've got two nickels to rub together.
527
00:35:01,690 --> 00:35:02,990
He was homeless, yeah.
528
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:06,850
Homeless. Yeah, that's right. My van's
sleeping.
529
00:35:08,190 --> 00:35:12,050
Rip Oliver opened his house for Billy
Jack to live there.
530
00:35:12,690 --> 00:35:19,510
So, Rip, I found out that he was dying
2019 of December, so I left
531
00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:23,490
Portland and flew down to Florida and
spent the last three months with him.
532
00:35:23,730 --> 00:35:26,870
I'm not looking for no pat on the back,
nothing like that. He was a great guy.
533
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:32,020
He never came here for my dad. He came
here to have a free place to live, and
534
00:35:32,020 --> 00:35:34,840
he was on pills before he got there, he
damn sure was before he left.
535
00:35:35,180 --> 00:35:36,720
You said he stole your dad's pills?
536
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,880
Yeah. My dad was, I don't know, months
away from dying.
537
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,740
My dad was on the real shit, the highest
they go.
538
00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:45,940
They're supposed to put people in comas.
539
00:35:46,860 --> 00:35:52,480
He started taking RIPs, Percocets, or
Vicodin, which RIP really needed because
540
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,480
he was very sick.
541
00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:56,380
I think he was more taking advantage of
RIP.
542
00:35:56,650 --> 00:35:59,050
And Rip was paying for everything.
543
00:36:00,830 --> 00:36:06,510
Billy got this scheme and called Brian
Blair up. Brian Blair ran Cauliflower
544
00:36:06,510 --> 00:36:09,290
Alley. You know, they help wrestlers
with problems.
545
00:36:09,550 --> 00:36:11,990
I don't know what happened, but Billy
called Brian.
546
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:13,790
Rip's dying.
547
00:36:14,030 --> 00:36:16,110
He needs help. He's going to lose his
property.
548
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:18,050
This is what my dad told me.
549
00:36:18,450 --> 00:36:22,510
Cauliflower Alley Club paid for his back
taxes on his house. They paid for his
550
00:36:22,510 --> 00:36:24,490
rent. They paid everything for him.
551
00:36:24,910 --> 00:36:26,880
Whoa. My dad didn't owe taxes.
552
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,420
When he died, he didn't owe taxes.
553
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:33,520
And my dad told me that Billy took half
and he gave him half.
554
00:36:34,940 --> 00:36:40,420
My dad was a junkie. I don't mean to say
that bad, but he was hooked. He was
555
00:36:40,420 --> 00:36:41,440
done, you know.
556
00:36:42,340 --> 00:36:45,760
He wanted me to be there, and I was
there all the way to hospice until he
557
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,638
finally died.
558
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,640
I didn't want him to be alone.
559
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,020
I know he stole all my dad's shit before
he died.
560
00:36:51,580 --> 00:36:52,580
Everybody's got stories.
561
00:36:52,940 --> 00:36:55,140
Yeah, I've seen it. It finally came out.
562
00:36:55,790 --> 00:36:59,850
After, you know, 30 -something years. He
took advantage of everybody.
563
00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:17,950
Back in Portland, Billy Jack begins a
relationship with Jan Becraft, the
564
00:37:17,950 --> 00:37:18,950
of his friend Todd.
565
00:37:19,710 --> 00:37:22,770
The Becraft family disapproves of the
relationship.
566
00:37:23,390 --> 00:37:28,650
But when Todd unexpectedly dies in 2021,
Billy Jack and Jan get married.
567
00:37:29,590 --> 00:37:34,190
She was like 85 and he's like 70. And so
when I saw the age of the woman, you
568
00:37:34,190 --> 00:37:35,670
know, you hear stuff from people.
569
00:37:36,010 --> 00:37:39,370
Was he like using her for money or a
place to live or whatever?
570
00:37:43,290 --> 00:37:45,510
This is actually the main house.
571
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:50,980
This is the main bedroom on this side,
and then the living room. You can kind
572
00:37:50,980 --> 00:37:51,980
see through the kitchen.
573
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,260
My name is Tom Matthew.
574
00:37:54,060 --> 00:37:58,600
I was actually living here before Billy
Jack moved in. You talk to anybody in
575
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,560
the neighborhood, they all loved him. He
would walk around, talk to everybody.
576
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,440
He really loved Jan a lot, and he was
quite devoted to her. She was sick.
577
00:38:06,820 --> 00:38:08,980
She was ill with dementia.
578
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,300
Some days she'd have good days, and some
days, most of the days, were bad.
579
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,820
And that wore on Billy pretty hard.
580
00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:20,550
She had some good days, but they were
getting worse. And her family definitely
581
00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:22,350
did not like them being together.
582
00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:24,570
And I don't think they were going to
separate.
583
00:38:25,410 --> 00:38:30,950
In my opinion, he took very good care of
her and wanted to protect her and keep
584
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:32,050
her from any kind of harm.
585
00:38:32,410 --> 00:38:36,790
The last time I spoke to him was two
days before the incident.
586
00:38:37,170 --> 00:38:40,410
And I told Billy, I said, Billy, you
look terrible.
587
00:38:40,610 --> 00:38:41,610
He hadn't slept.
588
00:38:41,710 --> 00:38:42,730
He hadn't hardly eaten anything.
589
00:38:43,210 --> 00:38:46,110
People with dementia, they become
combative.
590
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,900
It's tough to watch a loved one, you
know, go through that kind of mental
591
00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:51,900
decline.
592
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:58,400
I seen the cop cars and stuff on my
security camera. So I went outside to
593
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,600
what was going on, and I looked down the
street, and I saw them all down in
594
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,220
front of Billy's place, and I thought,
oh, shit.
595
00:39:02,620 --> 00:39:06,220
Detectives have been at the scene all
day, and police say the investigation is
596
00:39:06,220 --> 00:39:07,280
just getting started.
597
00:39:07,870 --> 00:39:12,210
I hear a banging on the window, out the
back window, and I looked out and it was
598
00:39:12,210 --> 00:39:14,110
quiet. It was freaking overfilled.
599
00:39:14,410 --> 00:39:16,230
I mean, they had this place locked down.
600
00:39:16,650 --> 00:39:20,370
Tactical teams, including the Special
Emergency Reaction Team and the Crisis
601
00:39:20,370 --> 00:39:25,390
Negotiation Team, were called to the
scene. Around two hours later, a man was
602
00:39:25,390 --> 00:39:26,390
detained.
603
00:39:26,650 --> 00:39:27,650
So what happened?
604
00:39:28,350 --> 00:39:34,550
Well, I mean, he took her life. And it
took them, like, maybe an hour to be in
605
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:36,390
and out when they actually took her body
out.
606
00:39:38,090 --> 00:39:42,710
When Billy was arrested, the whole
neighborhood basically was in shock.
607
00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:45,130
like me, I didn't believe it either at
first.
608
00:39:45,470 --> 00:39:46,510
He's just a big, gentle guy.
609
00:39:46,910 --> 00:39:52,390
And when you see it firsthand, it tears
your heart out.
610
00:39:53,210 --> 00:39:55,710
Billy Jack was kind of a nut.
611
00:39:56,250 --> 00:40:00,490
And people thought at this point, he's
that old, he's a harmless nut. Nobody
612
00:40:00,490 --> 00:40:03,550
thought he was going to go off and
murder anybody.
613
00:40:04,330 --> 00:40:06,250
But then the question becomes...
614
00:40:07,020 --> 00:40:10,540
Why in the world would you ever do
something like that?
615
00:40:20,020 --> 00:40:26,760
Although questions linger around Billy
Jack's
616
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:32,900
numerous claims and criminal activity,
one fact remains undeniable. On February
617
00:40:32,900 --> 00:40:34,440
8, 2024,
618
00:40:35,420 --> 00:40:38,660
Billy Jack Haynes took the life of
Jeanette Buckraft.
619
00:40:40,420 --> 00:40:45,660
Now, as he faces trial for second
-degree murder, Billy Jack has a new
620
00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:52,120
tell. Billy claims that she had dementia
so bad that it was
621
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,280
unbearable. He couldn't live with it
anymore.
622
00:40:54,580 --> 00:40:59,400
He called it a mercy killing because she
didn't know who she was anymore.
623
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,760
He supposedly shot his wife in the head,
and that's a mercy killing?
624
00:41:05,770 --> 00:41:06,930
I don't know, brother.
625
00:41:08,130 --> 00:41:10,890
Maybe he thought that was justifiable to
do that.
626
00:41:11,090 --> 00:41:16,030
It's a very sad situation, and I don't
know what they're going to do justice
627
00:41:16,030 --> 00:41:20,790
-wise, but that's up to, I guess, the
court to decide.
628
00:41:21,170 --> 00:41:22,250
I don't care for him.
629
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:24,490
It ain't because he killed his wife.
630
00:41:26,370 --> 00:41:27,790
I'll let that play out in court.
631
00:41:28,330 --> 00:41:33,630
If I were his lawyer, I'd certainly make
a diminished capacity case for him.
632
00:41:34,350 --> 00:41:40,250
He'd obviously been taking beatings
throughout his career, and if nothing
633
00:41:40,250 --> 00:41:45,550
dating from the beating he got at the
Longoria's Carlisle.
634
00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:48,370
You ask anybody, and they'll tell you.
635
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:51,090
He loved Jan unconditionally.
636
00:41:51,770 --> 00:41:53,030
She was his world.
637
00:41:53,370 --> 00:41:57,930
Whatever happened, as unfortunate as it
is, I think was a big mistake.
638
00:41:58,170 --> 00:42:02,150
That's what makes it all that much more
difficult to deal with.
639
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,340
Damn it, I'm lesser.
640
00:42:05,660 --> 00:42:07,140
It hurts my heart.
641
00:42:09,340 --> 00:42:12,380
Mercy killing is the phrase that they
used.
642
00:42:12,780 --> 00:42:16,460
Who's ever going to know the only person
that's alive that was in the room with
643
00:42:16,460 --> 00:42:19,200
him is Billy Jack? And you can't believe
a thing he says.
644
00:42:19,660 --> 00:42:23,700
If I come across crazy, I must be the
smartest, craziest guy there ever is.
645
00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:28,320
I'll never, ever forget the state of
Oregon and the beautiful fans that
646
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:29,760
supported me through the pro wrestling.
647
00:42:30,330 --> 00:42:34,510
Fans in Oregon, old enough to remember,
probably still have a fond spot for him.
648
00:42:34,530 --> 00:42:39,310
But now more people in and out of
wrestling are going to remember the
649
00:42:39,310 --> 00:42:43,850
stories he told and the things that he
invented that he was involved in. And
650
00:42:43,850 --> 00:42:47,670
finally, the murder of his wife. They're
going to remember that more than
651
00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:48,810
anything he did in wrestling.
652
00:42:49,110 --> 00:42:50,630
Let me have your attention.
653
00:42:51,010 --> 00:42:56,470
I don't want any fan to ever come up to
me and ask for an autograph again.
654
00:42:58,060 --> 00:43:00,660
He was the guy who had a couple of good
years at a time when wrestling was
655
00:43:00,660 --> 00:43:04,300
pretty big, made something of a name,
and had a very, very troubled existence
656
00:43:04,300 --> 00:43:06,400
after that fame ended.
657
00:43:06,620 --> 00:43:09,820
It's not a happy ending. There's no
silver lining in this story,
658
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,320
So how do you think Billy Jack's story
is going to end?
659
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,760
Boy, that's a million -dollar question.
660
00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:33,350
When that door shuts, you get to reality
real quick that there's no getting out
661
00:43:33,350 --> 00:43:34,350
of here.
662
00:43:36,070 --> 00:43:37,070
I took 12.
663
00:43:48,650 --> 00:43:50,050
Do you feel good about your chances?
664
00:43:50,510 --> 00:43:51,510
I do.
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