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Hell is in Pittsburgh tonight in this
match.
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On June 28th, 1998, at WWF's King of the
Ring pay -per -view, one match would
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earn its place as one of the most
shocking in wrestling history.
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Undertaker versus Mankind in Hell in a
Cell.
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Hell in a Cell hits you like a mallet to
the consciousness.
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Oh, here we go!
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I knew it was going to be crazy, but I
didn't know it was going to be that
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crazy.
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She had two talents out there that liked
to really push that envelope until it
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fell over the edge.
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Oh, wrestling's fake. You can't fake
gravity.
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I've been frightened by a lot of things
in pro wrestling. Nothing frightened me
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as much as that did. Until later on in
the match, anyway.
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What left fans stunned was the
unrelenting punishment Mick Foley
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Until you saw it, you didn't believe
that a person could physically do this
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live.
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This match was real. The pain was real.
The drama was real.
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I was cursing and screaming and calling
him an effing idiot. Why are you
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doing this?
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One of wrestling's most infamous
matches, Hell in a Cell's legacy
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both an epic success and a cautionary
tale.
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I think we dodged bullets that day, not
just one, but several. It's really crazy
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to think that they would allow someone
to go unconscious and then just continue
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the match.
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The collateral damage that ensued is
another story.
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When does it stop?
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When's it enough?
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You pay all day long for the decisions
you make in your 15 minutes in the
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spotlight. It was a dangerously crazy
masterpiece, but all of us.
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We need to ask ourselves the question,
was it worth it?
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Everyone
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who
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gets into wrestling is looking for
something that they find missing in
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lives.
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For me,
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I mean, I was teased a lot, so I had an
overwhelming need to be liked.
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And to take that WWF championship belt.
For example, I remember being in college
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as a sophomore.
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I took a swig of red food coloring, and
I did a superfly leap off a bed onto a
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stuffed animal on a concrete floor.
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And when I hit the floor, I bit that
blood concoction out.
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Everybody in the dorm was there
watching.
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I heard one of the girls yell out,
that's the most disgusting thing I've
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seen, and I felt that power.
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So I thought, if I can't make people
love me, perhaps I can disgust them.
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I just needed to get reactions.
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My name is Mick Foley.
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I am known as the hardcore legend, and I
survived Hell in a Cell.
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I think Hell in a Cell is a perfect
gateway.
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So many people have said that's the
first match I was shown, and now I'm a
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fan. And my follow -up question is
always, like, did you expect all the
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to be like that? It's like, because
they're not.
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A normal Mick Foley match is quite
hardcore, brutal,
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probably blood, bum tacks, fire.
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Barbed wire.
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Getting exploded by C4 explosives in
Japan.
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Getting speared through a table with
fire.
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Taking, like, bumps on the concrete.
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Oh, God, run on the concrete!
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I mean, he just put his body through so
much.
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I'm Mickey Foley, and my dad is the
hardcore legend Mick Foley. I think he
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really loved getting, like, an oh -my
-God or gross or nasty type of pop.
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I'm Noelle Foley, and I'm the daughter
of Mick Foley.
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Realism was a big tool.
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I didn't think I was having a good match
unless I had trouble getting back to my
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hotel room.
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I did not enjoy the pain. I enjoyed the
fact that I could take it and sell it in
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a way that was fun.
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I just had to really ask myself, do I
want to get
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mixed up with this?
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I'm Colette Foley, and I've known Mick
Foley for over 35 years.
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When I met Mick, I noticed his eyes.
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I noticed that he was a gentle, nice
person, but his corny jokes
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and terrible humor, that's what really
made me fall in love with him.
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Our wedding song was actually Beauty and
the Beast.
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We were a good team.
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She understood. She understood my
commitment. Like, she really did.
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When that adrenaline was pumping, he
just wanted people to leave talking
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how great a show it was at his own risk.
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And that was his drive to keep going and
get more crazy along the way.
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He developed a personality called Cactus
Jack. You can't stop Cactus Jack! He
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was a wild and crazy guy. You thought he
might be insane.
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Are you kidding me? He had charisma.
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You couldn't take your eyes off this
guy. He was different. He was unusual.
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I'm Jim Cornette, and at the time of the
Hell in a Cell match, I was working as
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an agent and a producer for the WWF.
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Mick was excellent with psychology in
his matches.
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He knew that the fans liked people that
were out of control.
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Someone who was going against the
script.
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He could take those people on that ride
with him and elicit the response that he
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wanted to get.
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Then the attention would be on him and
his reputation would grow.
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Our bedroom.
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Furniture consisted of a mattress on the
floor with a black and white television
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with a VCR that barely worked. And in
that VCR, it was Japanese wrestling
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I would sometimes watch 12 hours of
Japanese wrestling a day.
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I like the realism, the storytelling.
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It's not just man versus man.
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You have to defeat the surroundings, you
know.
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I thought Japan was likely to be where I
made my living.
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They were looking for a foreigner who
could feud with Terry Funk.
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Terry Funk was the greatest of all time
for his ability to make people suspend
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disbelief in a second.
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Terry Funk became somewhat of a mentor
to Mick.
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And they started working together in
these explosive, bloody, violent, fiery
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death matches in Japan.
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I was always drawn to the wild stuff, so
I would literally be on my hands and
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knees. And I thought that was proof that
I had done something special.
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This is a place I can make myself stand
out.
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So I never saw myself being a WWE guy.
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In WWF at the time, it wasn't a PG era.
It was a G -rated era.
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Very bland.
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And for someone like Mick, his style
didn't really gel with
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what WWF was selling.
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My name is Al Snow. I'm a former WWE
superstar.
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I was Mick Foley's travel partner and,
dare I say, probably his best friend.
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Probably his only friend.
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I'm just kidding.
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Vince McMahon did not want Mick Foley.
Didn't think that he was marketable.
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Didn't think he was attractive.
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How I convinced McMahon to hire Mick was
to give me a chance on my observations
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of talent. Because I see something in
this guy.
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I'm Jim Ross, and at the time of the
Hell in a Cell, I was vice president of
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talent relations.
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I needed to make sure that we had
dancing partners for the top guys.
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Undertaker was one of the biggest stars
in the history of wrestling. Long live
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The Undertaker!
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Vince kept trying to go with giants to
face The Undertaker, which was boring
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dull. What you needed was a lunatic.
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I'd heard a story about Vince slamming
his hand down on a table and said, all
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right, I'll bring him in, but I'm
covering up his face.
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We don't know who he is. We don't know
nothing about him. Well, he's nobody.
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He's nothing. That's Vince's perception
of Mick Foley.
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Hey, everybody. I'm Gerald Briscoe,
better known as Jerry Briscoe, WWE Hall
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Famer and Chickasaw Nation Hall of
Famer.
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Vince Beckman was like, okay, now you
guys go build a character around
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So we come down to mankind.
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What the hell is mankind?
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Yeah, here he comes.
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Mankind.
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This bogus bullshit wouldn't have worked
with anybody but Mick Foley.
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Without a connection to the audience,
without character, everything else is
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meaningless. I think fans can sense the
commitment.
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My goal for Mick was that he was going
to be a great opponent for The
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Undertaker.
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He was willing to try anything.
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My granny would say he didn't turn
nothing down but the covers.
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So now I've got this big challenge.
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to not let him kill himself.
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The Undertaker and I were laying quite a
foundation.
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Seven pay -per -view matches, ten TV
matches.
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We'd been around the globe together.
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But my character had kind of plateaued.
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I knew I had to do something, something
that would add to instead of detract
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from our legacy.
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For 1998's King of the Ring pay -per
-view, WWF producers plan to reignite
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Mankind -Undertaker feud with a recently
developed concept, Hell in a Cell.
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The way that they did cage matches in
the WWF was you had to either get out by
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either climbing over the cage or leaving
through the door.
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I asked Vince McMahon, I said, what
about if this cage match is different?
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What about if we put a roof on the cage?
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Both go in, only one's coming out.
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And that's where we came up with Hell in
a Cell.
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Undertaker and Shawn Michaels had the
first Hell in a Cell, and it was a mile
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marker.
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Well, the Michaels -Undertaker match,
technically, to me, it's still the best
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one.
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I just looked at this match open -jawed.
I literally can't do any of the things
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that these guys are doing.
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Some nine months later, they're going to
do it again, this time The Undertaker
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and Mankind.
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And then I asked Terry Funk, what are we
going to do?
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And he started laughing. You know, what
would be funny is, what if you actually
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started the match on top of the cell?
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And what if you were thrown off?
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He's saying it as a joke.
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He stopped laughing. I looked at him and
I said, I think I can do that.
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I could not get the idea out of my head.
I pitched The Undertaker and Mr.
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McMahon. The idea being thrown off into
a casual conversation, it was a great
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sell job.
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I wasn't on board, really, for throwing
Nick off the shelf.
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And, you know, he was dead set.
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And then, you know, we got Vince on
board with him.
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I was like, well, okay.
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I was not looking at this match as
like...
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a second act in my career, I was just
looking at it as a way to try to keep my
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head above water.
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I thought, when this run is done, I am
too.
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Did you know going into this what Mick
had planned?
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Yes. He told me the high spots that he
was going to be all right.
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Welcome everybody to the King of the
Ring!
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If he can see it, he can do it. And I
trust that.
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We have only seen one Hell in a Cell
matchup in WWF history, and it was the
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unbelievable match that I think I've
ever witnessed, JR. I remember
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thinking to myself, I need to come out
with everything I've got, just eyes on
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the prize.
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This match has so much riding on it, JR,
that the loser may not even stop at the
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hospital.
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They may go straight to the morgue.
There's that old saying, be careful what
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wish for, you just might get it.
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Ladies and gentlemen, the following
podcast is The Hell in the Cell.
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On June 28, 1998, at Pittsburgh Civic
Arena, a packed house
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eagerly awaits the Hell in a Cell
showdown between Undertaker and Mankind.
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Yeah, you got to imagine the pressure
that Mick's probably feeling as he's
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walking to the ring, you know, knowing
that the last time an audience saw this
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match, it was Shawn and Taker, knowing
that he's got to outdo that.
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Poor Mick, he's not exactly the most
nimble guy in the world either.
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My name is Jimmy Corderas. At the time
of Hell in a Cell, I was part of the
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crew and also a referee.
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I was backstage watching on the
monitors.
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And Gerald Briscoe was the one who
produces there.
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I had the best seat in the house, sat
right in front of about ten monitors
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watching everything.
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So you were like basically sitting in
the captain's seat during Hell in a
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I was the pilot, baby.
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This is probably the first time in 20
years that I've watched this, Matt.
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No one knew what to anticipate, and I
don't think anyone could have ever
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imagined what they were going to see.
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Hello again, everybody.
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I'm Jim Ross, alongside Jerry the King
Lawler.
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I was as much in the dark as a fan
watching at home. I did want to start
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match in a way nobody had ever started a
match before and to do something no one
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had ever done.
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I think there's a little bit of shock on
everybody's face. Like, he's going up
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now? He's going up at the beginning of
the match?
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What next?
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I mean, he needs therapy.
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I had not been on top of the cell. I
assured Mr. McMahon of The Undertaker,
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yeah, I've been up there, it's fine. But
the truth is, when I got up there, I
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was terrified.
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I'm actually not good with heights.
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Whoa, it's totally dark in here. He may
fall off that cell.
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The entire time The Undertaker's music
is playing, I'm thinking to myself, how
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can I gracefully climb down this cell
without ruining my career?
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Wait a minute.
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Do you think he's daring The Undertaker
to start this match up there?
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I thought it was a hell of a way to
start.
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Apparently Hell in a Cell Max is
officially underway.
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It created a theater of the mind that
one could not get past.
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Something's going to happen.
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What's going to happen?
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They had attached the top section of the
cage with zip ties.
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But there's 600 pounds of human beings
up there.
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The Undertaker and I all take a step,
and that mesh goes down by about a foot.
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And I literally hear zip ties springing.
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They're destroying the hell in the cell.
When those zip ties were popping off, I
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thought, oh boy, this is not good.
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I attempt to suplex the Undertaker on
top of that mesh.
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He cut that off, knowing that, you know,
there was a decent chance we were both
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going to go through it.
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They're throwing punches, and they got
towards the edge of the cage where the
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announce tables were.
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I thought when they got close to the
edge, there's just no way in hell that
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Nick's going to take a tumble off the
top of the cage.
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That's too dangerous.
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That's too iffy.
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There's very little margin for error.
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I look at this incredibly small table.
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like a little dollhouse.
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I don't know how in the world it's going
to work out.
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And lo and behold, the closer they got
to the edge of the cage, the more I
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became convinced that something big was
going to happen here momentarily.
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And it did.
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Then all of a sudden,
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Here's Jim Ross and here's Jerry Lawler,
as well as the Spanish announcers.
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And they're looking up and a 300 -pound
human being is flung at them from almost
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20 feet above them.
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And he's coming at them fast.
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As strange as it sounds, it felt like it
was going by in slow motion.
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It also went by in the blink of an eye.
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All of a sudden you hear this.
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Mud! Crap!
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Holy shit, did we just see what we
thought we saw?
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The sound of Nick going through the
announcer table was scary as hell.
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Everyone over from the back, we just
exploded in concern.
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It was like witnessing a car accident.
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Ooh, you will, thought he was dead.
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We need doctors out here!
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Folks, we apologize. This match has
stopped.
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Dead in its tracks.
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In a business filled with crazy, strange
things, nobody had ever tried to do
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something like this before.
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It blew everybody's mind.
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And I thought, my God, this is over.
There's no way he's going to get back
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There was an audible gasp where everyone
went, no!
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We had two young children at the time,
and they
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didn't know what to think of it. All I
kept saying was, oh, it's
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vague, just to soothe them. Yet in the
back of my mind, I'm freaking out.
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It's tough.
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To know when it really, really, really
is real.
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But it had to have hurt him.
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And it was believable.
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If the undertaker threw him just a
little too far or a little too short,
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falling from God knows how high onto
concrete. Or could have even landed on
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fans. The pain would come later. I'm
kind of flying high on adrenaline.
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And I've pulled off this pretty lofty
goal.
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I mean...
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Going through the table could not have
gone better. He saw it in his head, and
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in midair, he turned in such a way that
he was able to land flat on that
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announce desk to cushion that fall and
not kill him.
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And when it did happen, you should have
heard the voices back there.
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Replay that.
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Then you go into business mode where
you're trying to get every great shot
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you had with it.
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Hugo Savinovich, the Spanish
commentator, bailed out of his chair
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getting flattened.
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It was pretty traumatic, to be honest,
because it was my friend out there
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and being torn with the rule that you
don't step in, you don't interfere with
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whatever Mick was trying to construct.
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The fans were literally having this guy
laying at their feet, and they're
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looking at all the attendants and the
referees. There's Terry Funk.
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Terry Funk was the first one to get
there.
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I asked Terry, is he conscious?
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Right there.
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Now we're trying to make room for Dr.
Francois to get there.
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So I was in my medical room, and
suddenly I hear, right now, come right
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fail from the top of the cell. And I
say, what?
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I'm Dr. Francois Petit, a .k .a. Chien
Petit. I used to be the doctor for WWF
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for about four and a half, five years on
the road, and before that for about
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eight, nine years in Los Angeles.
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Francois was kind of like the French
Army Knight.
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Francois was a black belt in karate.
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He was Sub -Zero in the first Mortal
Kombat movie.
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He was probably a secret agent and, you
know, investment banker.
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Francois was what I think they call
them, bone crackers.
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He could fix you.
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You probably wouldn't enjoy it, but he
could put you back in place.
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No matter what the malady was, baby, I
fixed you. I fixed you, baby. It'll be
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okay.
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Of course, he was my number one patient,
if I can say something like that.
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Well, this is nuts, what he did.
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He fell on his back badly, and on top of
that, on his dislocated shoulder.
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The EMT people have no idea how to get
the gurney down there.
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And it turns out the gurney wouldn't
fit.
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So now they've got to raise the cell
with the undertaker on it. Is he going
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jump down here?
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He was put on that gurney like that was
real.
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They were going to take him to the
hospital.
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We thought the damn thing was over with.
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I mean, what else can they do, you know?
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But we found out.
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I realized that the longer I'm on there,
the more fully the audience is.
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I've never seen anything like that in my
life. Well, I'm not. Yeah. But I've got
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a feeling that I'm going to be able to
continue.
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Everybody was trying to tell him, no,
Mick, you're done. Stop.
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What are you doing? Where are you going?
Why are you doing this?
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Just stay down.
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Holy shit, he's coming back for more?
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Are you kidding me?
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They're tired.
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It's going back down. No way. So is the
Undertaker. No way.
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I'm thinking this is going to be the
craziest, dumbest SOB in our business.
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How can he climb? How can his body? At
this point, I do not know how I'm going
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to do this and live.
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But I have pledged to do it, and I'm
going to do it. This is absolutely
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Absolutely amazing here.
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I'm thinking to myself, you're insane,
you're an idiot.
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But at the same time that I'm thinking
that, I'm thinking that was the moment
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that really made him a star.
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By then, backstage was packed because
they know shit's going on.
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I stayed back where I was because I knew
something else was going to happen. I
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knew. I guess at the end of the day, I'm
glad that they went back up because it
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created another moment.
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It added to the storyline.
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But sometimes you can storyline yourself
right to the hospital.
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The neck spot in the storyline pitched
by Nick Foley was far less concerning.
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least at first. We had already agreed on
the one choke slam,
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which we thought would cause the mash to
gradually give way. And the big visual
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is going to be Undertaker like stuffing
me down.
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But that did not happen.
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And now, Houston, we got a problem.
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I thought that the destruction of the
Foley body was well in hand.
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It's a completely different situation
than when he got thrown off the top.
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You just, you just know.
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I'm screaming at the TV set.
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I am cursing.
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I was like trying to get.
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The company on the phone.
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And I couldn't get through to anybody. I
couldn't get through to anybody.
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How do you tell your children, oh,
daddy's acting?
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Laying there lifeless, motionless. This
was not expected at all.
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I thought that was the end of him.
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When he hit that solid mat, the
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mat doesn't do it justice. It's more
like hitting the cement.
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As he's falling, that metal, heavy,
solid folding chair
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came right behind him. You can see when
he lands that chair, boom, there's a
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chair on his face, boom.
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He could have very easily died. I mean,
my mom thought he was dead also.
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I was shocked. I was screaming. I was
furious.
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Because I thought he betrayed me by not
telling me the truth that there was
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another spot.
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There we go. Joke plan. Oh.
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That was the first time in his career
that he'd been legitimately knocked out
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cold. We all flooded the cage, Dr.
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Francois, Terry Funk.
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The guys that went out there were
thinking, This might be the end.
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He was really not responsive at that
point.
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I turn around and look at Undertaker.
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And I say, okay, that's enough.
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Because I saw his eyes not answering.
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Man, he'd landed in such a funky way. I
didn't know that he was going to get up.
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I was legit scared for what the results
were going to be.
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The Undertaker, he looked at Terry and
said, see if he's alive.
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Terry reports back, he's still
breathing.
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There were so many times when I've seen
stars, but I'd never been out for more
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than a couple seconds.
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And this time, there's 42 seconds that I
don't recall.
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Terry Funk took it into his own hands
and walked up to Undertaker and said,
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me.
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So he could take the focus away from
Mick a little bit so everybody could
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to him.
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It's all ad lib, it's all at the moment.
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If I'd ever seen a match that should
have been stopped, that was probably the
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one. But he just didn't do it back then.
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We didn't stop matches. We bought time.
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And I needed every second that I could
get.
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When I came to and I immediately saw
Terry Funk's shoes, I then realized I'm
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this match. And that's where I try to
stand.
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How is he still standing up? I don't
have a damn clue.
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Oh my God, he is a freaking mess.
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It's really crazy to think that they
would allow this to happen.
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Just like someone go unconscious and
then continue the match.
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As the clouds began to clear, I was all
about trying to create an image for TV.
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I've got a massive wound underneath my
lip, and if I can find a way to take my
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tongue, stick it through that massive
wound, it's going to make for a great TV
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moment.
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Oh, my. And he's smiling.
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There's the tooth.
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There's the tooth.
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How do you get hit in the face with a
chair and it knocks your tooth out and
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ends up in your nostril? One of the
doctors said that it went into his
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but because he was breathing so heavily
that he had sucked it up the other way
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and it came down through his nasal
passage. What is that sticking out of
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nose? Maybe a tooth?
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This match was real. The pain was real.
The drama was real. The expressions on
436
00:28:59,460 --> 00:29:00,920
everybody's face were real.
437
00:29:01,140 --> 00:29:02,140
Real concern.
438
00:29:03,379 --> 00:29:06,180
You can look in his eyes and tell you
there was nobody home.
439
00:29:06,460 --> 00:29:08,420
And I'm trying to talk to him.
440
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,980
All he wanted to do is, we've got to get
to the tax.
441
00:29:14,740 --> 00:29:21,460
This was their first
442
00:29:21,460 --> 00:29:22,580
appearance in WWE.
443
00:29:22,980 --> 00:29:26,140
I felt like I should be the guy to bring
them over.
444
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,840
purposely rolling around, make sure he
gets all the thumbtacks on him as much
445
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,840
possible.
446
00:29:39,620 --> 00:29:44,720
When the adrenaline is taking over, you
don't realize the pain anymore.
447
00:29:44,940 --> 00:29:49,240
You're part of the pain. You're pushing
so far, you don't even know you're doing
448
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:55,140
it. Mick is very big about come hell or
high water, whatever it is, he will see
449
00:29:55,140 --> 00:29:56,140
it through.
450
00:29:57,460 --> 00:30:00,920
Finally, the 17 -minute match comes to
an end.
451
00:30:01,740 --> 00:30:04,180
with The Undertaker defeating mankind.
452
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,380
What a spectacle it was.
453
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,920
In that Pittsburgh Civic Arena, 16 ,000
people.
454
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,000
We've never seen anything like this
before.
455
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,600
They brought the stretcher up because we
thought it was needed for sure.
456
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:24,860
But he waved it off, and that crowd went
absolutely insane.
457
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,920
This was real as a heart attack, and the
people could tell.
458
00:30:31,580 --> 00:30:37,420
That put the fan in the corner of this
guy who just cannot be stopped.
459
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,080
And that's the kind of shit that gets
over.
460
00:30:42,820 --> 00:30:48,280
An audience has invested their time,
their money, and their effort in one
461
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,060
thing, and that is the belief in you.
462
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:55,960
He knew and understood that risking his
well -being allows them to more
463
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,740
thoroughly believe in him and the
experience.
464
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:02,780
Thank God this is over.
465
00:31:03,020 --> 00:31:08,280
We kept taking these chances and another
chance and another chance after a fly.
466
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:14,100
As long as I live, I will never forget
what we just witnessed right there. He
467
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:17,640
would always call and check in with me,
let me know that he's okay.
468
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,600
And now here comes the one pay -per
-view where she really needs to know,
469
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,600
there's no phone call.
470
00:31:23,950 --> 00:31:30,610
I had to wait and wait and wait. It made
me worry. And that anger came back.
471
00:31:30,910 --> 00:31:34,210
And a few hours later, Mick calls me.
472
00:31:34,530 --> 00:31:37,830
She was screaming at me. Your children
thought you were dead.
473
00:31:39,470 --> 00:31:46,290
I think prior to the cell, she prepared
by trusting that I
474
00:31:46,290 --> 00:31:48,930
wasn't going to do anything to
jeopardize the family.
475
00:31:49,150 --> 00:31:51,170
After that.
476
00:31:51,850 --> 00:31:53,330
It became a big concern.
477
00:32:00,790 --> 00:32:04,530
When Mick came back through the curtain,
I mean, everybody rushed up and wanted
478
00:32:04,530 --> 00:32:09,310
to check on him and make sure he was as
okay as he could possibly be.
479
00:32:10,010 --> 00:32:14,270
One of the first people to greet Mick at
the curtain was Vince McMahon.
480
00:32:14,550 --> 00:32:18,170
He said, Mick, I want to thank you for
what you've done for my company, and I
481
00:32:18,170 --> 00:32:21,250
want you to promise me that you will
never do anything like it again.
482
00:32:21,740 --> 00:32:23,940
And pull those thumbtacks out of him.
483
00:32:24,420 --> 00:32:29,820
I'm going backstage and I overheard Mick
say to Taker, did we do the thumbtack
484
00:32:29,820 --> 00:32:33,700
spot? He doesn't realize that the doctor
is just plucking him out of him right
485
00:32:33,700 --> 00:32:38,400
now? When you love somebody and you
respect them as much as I did Mick, my
486
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,200
thought was, are you okay?
487
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:41,880
Are you really okay?
488
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:48,680
I don't think he truly anticipated how
severe that was going to be like that
489
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,040
night. I had to help him get undressed
and then into bed.
490
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,240
You know, he was messed up on that one.
491
00:32:56,540 --> 00:33:01,300
I think it was 15 stitches underneath
the lip, off these two teeth.
492
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,180
I don't even know if I was treated for a
concussion. I had a bruised kidney for
493
00:33:06,180 --> 00:33:10,580
about six weeks. My jaw was dislocated.
I can't remember which shoulder was
494
00:33:10,580 --> 00:33:12,860
dislocated. But you know what?
495
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,700
That match changed the way people felt
about me.
496
00:33:17,450 --> 00:33:21,350
And that's what really sparked the
career renaissance.
497
00:33:21,730 --> 00:33:28,230
With what you did at Hell in a Cell, I
want to publicly thank you. Going
498
00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:34,910
from Vince not wanting to see him in a
WWF ring
499
00:33:34,910 --> 00:33:37,710
to six months after that match, he was
world champion.
500
00:33:37,970 --> 00:33:44,730
The reaction, the pop, the adrenaline,
the rush. The more he did, the more
501
00:33:44,730 --> 00:33:46,590
he took. It made me worry.
502
00:33:47,230 --> 00:33:50,950
The bar kept just going up because it
was never good enough.
503
00:33:51,470 --> 00:33:57,010
I think he felt like he had to live up
to being the hardcore legend, continuing
504
00:33:57,010 --> 00:33:59,750
things that he probably shouldn't have.
505
00:34:00,710 --> 00:34:05,390
Mick, at that point, was about what are
the limits of physical human endurance?
506
00:34:06,150 --> 00:34:10,810
He felt like he owed it to the guy he
was working with. He owed it to the
507
00:34:10,810 --> 00:34:13,710
to do something that they hadn't seen
before.
508
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:22,360
I remember not a scolding, but a
warning. If you continue to try to do
509
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,679
type things, it's going to catch up with
you.
510
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,960
He understood, but he didn't agree with
me.
511
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:35,040
Just seven months later, Mick Foley
again pushes his limits, this time in a
512
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,179
brutal showdown with The Rock in the
infamous I Quit match.
513
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:44,040
No stopping the match for excessive
blood loss.
514
00:34:46,889 --> 00:34:52,630
I told Mick, that's a horrible idea, but
he was going to do what he needed to do
515
00:34:52,630 --> 00:34:57,410
and what he wanted to do. I mean, he's
riding the big tidal waves.
516
00:34:57,670 --> 00:35:01,970
Well, I also think it had something to
do with my way of making it seem like
517
00:35:01,970 --> 00:35:03,610
everything was going to be all right.
518
00:35:03,990 --> 00:35:07,850
He was one of the worst days of my life.
And the eyewitness is underway.
519
00:35:08,990 --> 00:35:12,830
I had both children with me. It was
super brutal from the beginning.
520
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,860
I got carried away with The Rock. I had
told him, lay it in.
521
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:24,680
He did.
522
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,300
But instead of taking five shots, I took
11 shots.
523
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:38,520
His kids were not old enough at that
point to really
524
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,060
ascertain what was fact and what was
fiction.
525
00:35:43,660 --> 00:35:47,220
But also, in the middle of this fiction,
it was a fact.
526
00:35:47,420 --> 00:35:51,360
He got brain damage for a wrestling
angle on television.
527
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,320
Where does it end? What does it take now
to put you down?
528
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:05,320
So this sounds pretty bizarre, but I
don't have one singular
529
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,500
memory of my dad ever wrestling.
530
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,600
Part of me thinks it's because...
531
00:36:11,050 --> 00:36:17,810
It was very traumatic to me. Like, how
could these 11 shots change my dad's
532
00:36:17,810 --> 00:36:18,810
health?
533
00:36:19,330 --> 00:36:25,130
Like, if you were to get 11 headshots, a
normal person probably could have died.
534
00:36:26,170 --> 00:36:27,830
It's sickening, honestly.
535
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:30,950
I really, really hate the I Quit match.
536
00:36:31,410 --> 00:36:37,210
Mick, I always wanted to over -deliver.
And somewhere down the road, all of us
537
00:36:37,210 --> 00:36:39,610
need to ask ourselves the question, was
it worth it?
538
00:36:41,740 --> 00:36:46,180
I understood that the style I chose was
going to result in great discomfort.
539
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:53,980
There were so many times when I could
have made a move less painful, but I
540
00:36:53,980 --> 00:36:56,100
not to because I thought it would look
better.
541
00:36:57,500 --> 00:37:01,160
There were a handful of doctors saying
that you need to stop now.
542
00:37:01,380 --> 00:37:05,860
If you continue wrestling, you'll wind
up crippled. Do you think that stopped
543
00:37:05,860 --> 00:37:06,860
him?
544
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,180
I still thought I had one good match
left in me.
545
00:37:13,230 --> 00:37:16,950
And so I set about trying to delay the
inevitable.
546
00:37:18,450 --> 00:37:23,850
There were times when he should not have
been wrestling. He shouldn't have been
547
00:37:23,850 --> 00:37:24,850
cleared.
548
00:37:25,770 --> 00:37:31,410
He'd drive around and not remember where
he lived.
549
00:37:31,810 --> 00:37:35,530
It's concussion on top of concussion on
top of concussion.
550
00:37:36,530 --> 00:37:42,410
My appointment with the WWE neurologist
had not gone particularly well, so I
551
00:37:42,410 --> 00:37:44,470
booked an appointment independent of
WWE.
552
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:48,270
I'll never forget what he told me. He
said, Mr. Foley, if you want to try to
553
00:37:48,270 --> 00:37:52,210
find another neurologist to clear you,
that's up to you, but I'm telling you,
554
00:37:52,270 --> 00:37:54,350
you should never wrestle again.
555
00:37:55,530 --> 00:38:01,130
If you've pushed those physical limits
like Mick has, yeah, you're definitely
556
00:38:01,130 --> 00:38:05,310
going to pay a price, and sadly, Mick is
paying that price.
557
00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:06,720
Right now.
558
00:38:13,180 --> 00:38:19,840
Back then, we didn't know the long -term
effects of concussions. When guys
559
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,900
take a bump, they have an impact in the
ring.
560
00:38:24,220 --> 00:38:28,500
Similar to experiencing a 25 -mile -per
-hour car accident.
561
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,180
I can only imagine the type of pain that
Nick has to live with.
562
00:38:36,180 --> 00:38:38,580
He's paid the price for all this fame.
563
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,940
Nick is very special, and he's lucky
he's still with us.
564
00:38:42,940 --> 00:38:46,260
PPE is a very scary disease.
565
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:53,480
That is a long -term effect of
repetitive concussions and brain trauma.
566
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:59,820
We don't really know how my dad will be
doing in 10, 20 years or so.
567
00:39:00,140 --> 00:39:03,640
If you're wondering if I'm worried about
that, yeah, yeah, yeah.
568
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,140
Really worried. Every day, I worry about
that.
569
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:13,440
The fallout from what I've done, I
honestly, I don't see a way out of it.
570
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,380
That's one of the most respected and
beloved men to ever compete in our
571
00:39:18,380 --> 00:39:22,320
business. But I'm going to fight it. I'm
going to try to be someone who
572
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,320
continues to get sharper as they get
older.
573
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,720
And so I have these spoken word shows.
574
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:33,040
It's like mental gymnastics for my mind.
And I hear the crowd chanting.
575
00:39:34,300 --> 00:39:35,300
Undertaker.
576
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:43,180
Putting on a show, having that
stimulation from people, that keeps him
577
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:48,520
I can either appreciate what I have or I
could live in complete fear about the
578
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,520
unknown. So I'm going to continue to
enjoy myself.
579
00:39:53,660 --> 00:39:55,040
He lived his dream.
580
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,760
He made his dream.
581
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:03,160
He needs to feel accepted, especially
around his
582
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:10,160
legacy. I tell him, go, do the things
you like to do, but don't push
583
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,160
your luck.
584
00:40:11,740 --> 00:40:16,480
Colette knew that I was kind of my own
worst enemy when I was in the ring.
585
00:40:16,860 --> 00:40:23,160
We dress up in wild costumes and engage
in a fantasy form of combat that leaves
586
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:29,100
a lot of us in worse condition than we
arrived at. And we do it to earn the
587
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:31,340
acceptance of total strangers.
588
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:39,460
For me, it was all about the reactions,
the eyes lighting up, my desire to be
589
00:40:39,460 --> 00:40:44,660
authentic. I definitely wanted to be
loved.
590
00:40:45,710 --> 00:40:52,470
All the sacrifices you put your physique
through just for the roar of
591
00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:53,470
them.
592
00:40:54,770 --> 00:40:56,310
I like that roar.
593
00:40:56,830 --> 00:41:02,530
You can't say that's a fault without
also admitting that it's responsible for
594
00:41:02,530 --> 00:41:03,530
success.
595
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:07,030
Mick Foley is known for many things.
596
00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:11,810
He's a multiple -time champion. He's
donated time and energies to charities.
597
00:41:13,580 --> 00:41:15,600
What he's known for is Hell in a Cell.
598
00:41:21,380 --> 00:41:28,000
For years, I really harbored some
resentment for that match because it was
599
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,640
only thing that I was known for.
600
00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:32,480
I was in a dark place for a while.
601
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,900
On one hand, I knew I'd done a lot in
wrestling. On the other hand, I felt
602
00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:38,240
I'd accomplished nothing at all.
603
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:44,290
The Undertaker and I, we were
reminiscing, and he says, you know,
604
00:41:44,290 --> 00:41:46,250
did that night will outlive us both.
605
00:41:46,490 --> 00:41:50,070
That was a major step in embracing that
moment.
606
00:41:50,290 --> 00:41:54,590
That's what I got into wrestling for, to
try to create moments like that.
607
00:41:56,110 --> 00:42:01,230
I think fans are going to remember him
as a guy who gave his heart and soul to
608
00:42:01,230 --> 00:42:04,710
this business and appreciate him
immensely for it.
609
00:42:05,050 --> 00:42:11,050
The audience is coming to be in awe
because few people in the world can put
610
00:42:11,050 --> 00:42:12,050
in awe.
611
00:42:12,430 --> 00:42:15,370
And those people do. This is the beauty
of it.
612
00:42:21,590 --> 00:42:28,510
Me and my dad, we were at the WWE
warehouse,
613
00:42:28,830 --> 00:42:32,150
and we came across the cell.
614
00:42:34,370 --> 00:42:37,290
My dad certainly wasn't expecting to see
it.
615
00:42:38,570 --> 00:42:40,470
He touched it.
616
00:42:41,710 --> 00:42:45,990
And he just started tearing up and
started crying.
617
00:42:48,290 --> 00:42:50,330
I've never seen my dad cry.
618
00:42:50,930 --> 00:42:57,530
For something to make him cry must have
been really important
619
00:42:57,530 --> 00:43:03,610
and life -changing and also probably
pretty scary.
620
00:43:04,650 --> 00:43:08,350
Like, this could have been it.
621
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:17,500
I'm lucky I'm here after that. There's
no reward big enough to cover that risk.
622
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,800
We did not know nearly as much about
head injuries as we do now.
623
00:43:24,300 --> 00:43:28,780
But I can't tell you with certainty that
I would have done things different if I
624
00:43:28,780 --> 00:43:29,780
had known that.
625
00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:36,860
I felt like the world had offered me
this canvas to create surreal, sublime
626
00:43:36,860 --> 00:43:40,680
performance art. And there were some
bumps in the road, but...
627
00:43:40,890 --> 00:43:42,790
It was a pretty magical way to make a
living.
628
00:43:43,770 --> 00:43:48,830
On certain nights when things were
really good, it was one of the most
629
00:43:48,830 --> 00:43:49,830
feelings in the world.
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