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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,130 --> 00:00:08,090 Hell is in Pittsburgh tonight in this match. 2 00:00:08,330 --> 00:00:14,790 On June 28th, 1998, at WWF's King of the Ring pay -per -view, one match would 3 00:00:14,790 --> 00:00:17,730 earn its place as one of the most shocking in wrestling history. 4 00:00:18,370 --> 00:00:21,470 Undertaker versus Mankind in Hell in a Cell. 5 00:00:21,730 --> 00:00:24,450 Hell in a Cell hits you like a mallet to the consciousness. 6 00:00:24,930 --> 00:00:25,930 Oh, here we go! 7 00:00:26,090 --> 00:00:29,170 I knew it was going to be crazy, but I didn't know it was going to be that 8 00:00:29,170 --> 00:00:30,170 crazy. 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,780 She had two talents out there that liked to really push that envelope until it 10 00:00:36,780 --> 00:00:37,780 fell over the edge. 11 00:00:40,780 --> 00:00:43,500 Oh, wrestling's fake. You can't fake gravity. 12 00:00:45,340 --> 00:00:48,580 I've been frightened by a lot of things in pro wrestling. Nothing frightened me 13 00:00:48,580 --> 00:00:51,640 as much as that did. Until later on in the match, anyway. 14 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:58,240 What left fans stunned was the unrelenting punishment Mick Foley 15 00:00:58,970 --> 00:01:04,330 Until you saw it, you didn't believe that a person could physically do this 16 00:01:04,330 --> 00:01:05,330 live. 17 00:01:06,390 --> 00:01:10,170 This match was real. The pain was real. The drama was real. 18 00:01:10,430 --> 00:01:17,210 I was cursing and screaming and calling him an effing idiot. Why are you 19 00:01:17,210 --> 00:01:18,210 doing this? 20 00:01:18,250 --> 00:01:23,170 One of wrestling's most infamous matches, Hell in a Cell's legacy 21 00:01:23,170 --> 00:01:25,710 both an epic success and a cautionary tale. 22 00:01:26,190 --> 00:01:30,190 I think we dodged bullets that day, not just one, but several. It's really crazy 23 00:01:30,190 --> 00:01:35,390 to think that they would allow someone to go unconscious and then just continue 24 00:01:35,390 --> 00:01:36,189 the match. 25 00:01:36,190 --> 00:01:39,550 The collateral damage that ensued is another story. 26 00:01:39,850 --> 00:01:40,850 When does it stop? 27 00:01:41,030 --> 00:01:42,030 When's it enough? 28 00:01:42,370 --> 00:01:47,770 You pay all day long for the decisions you make in your 15 minutes in the 29 00:01:47,770 --> 00:01:52,690 spotlight. It was a dangerously crazy masterpiece, but all of us. 30 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,560 We need to ask ourselves the question, was it worth it? 31 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:04,880 Everyone 32 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:12,060 who 33 00:02:12,060 --> 00:02:17,540 gets into wrestling is looking for something that they find missing in 34 00:02:17,540 --> 00:02:18,540 lives. 35 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,580 For me, 36 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:28,140 I mean, I was teased a lot, so I had an overwhelming need to be liked. 37 00:02:28,420 --> 00:02:34,620 And to take that WWF championship belt. For example, I remember being in college 38 00:02:34,620 --> 00:02:35,620 as a sophomore. 39 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:42,320 I took a swig of red food coloring, and I did a superfly leap off a bed onto a 40 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:43,760 stuffed animal on a concrete floor. 41 00:02:44,540 --> 00:02:49,040 And when I hit the floor, I bit that blood concoction out. 42 00:02:49,660 --> 00:02:52,200 Everybody in the dorm was there watching. 43 00:02:52,860 --> 00:02:57,020 I heard one of the girls yell out, that's the most disgusting thing I've 44 00:02:57,020 --> 00:02:59,040 seen, and I felt that power. 45 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:04,660 So I thought, if I can't make people love me, perhaps I can disgust them. 46 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,640 I just needed to get reactions. 47 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:09,860 My name is Mick Foley. 48 00:03:10,140 --> 00:03:14,500 I am known as the hardcore legend, and I survived Hell in a Cell. 49 00:03:16,100 --> 00:03:19,040 I think Hell in a Cell is a perfect gateway. 50 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,100 So many people have said that's the first match I was shown, and now I'm a 51 00:03:24,100 --> 00:03:28,180 fan. And my follow -up question is always, like, did you expect all the 52 00:03:28,180 --> 00:03:30,220 to be like that? It's like, because they're not. 53 00:03:34,820 --> 00:03:41,120 A normal Mick Foley match is quite hardcore, brutal, 54 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:47,220 probably blood, bum tacks, fire. 55 00:03:49,900 --> 00:03:50,900 Barbed wire. 56 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,960 Getting exploded by C4 explosives in Japan. 57 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,080 Getting speared through a table with fire. 58 00:03:59,580 --> 00:04:01,300 Taking, like, bumps on the concrete. 59 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,320 Oh, God, run on the concrete! 60 00:04:03,540 --> 00:04:05,900 I mean, he just put his body through so much. 61 00:04:06,260 --> 00:04:11,580 I'm Mickey Foley, and my dad is the hardcore legend Mick Foley. I think he 62 00:04:11,580 --> 00:04:17,300 really loved getting, like, an oh -my -God or gross or nasty type of pop. 63 00:04:18,510 --> 00:04:21,350 I'm Noelle Foley, and I'm the daughter of Mick Foley. 64 00:04:21,990 --> 00:04:23,250 Realism was a big tool. 65 00:04:23,610 --> 00:04:27,630 I didn't think I was having a good match unless I had trouble getting back to my 66 00:04:27,630 --> 00:04:28,630 hotel room. 67 00:04:28,650 --> 00:04:34,210 I did not enjoy the pain. I enjoyed the fact that I could take it and sell it in 68 00:04:34,210 --> 00:04:35,810 a way that was fun. 69 00:04:37,010 --> 00:04:43,970 I just had to really ask myself, do I want to get 70 00:04:43,970 --> 00:04:45,070 mixed up with this? 71 00:04:47,210 --> 00:04:52,930 I'm Colette Foley, and I've known Mick Foley for over 35 years. 72 00:04:53,590 --> 00:04:56,490 When I met Mick, I noticed his eyes. 73 00:04:56,990 --> 00:05:03,750 I noticed that he was a gentle, nice person, but his corny jokes 74 00:05:03,750 --> 00:05:08,730 and terrible humor, that's what really made me fall in love with him. 75 00:05:09,410 --> 00:05:13,430 Our wedding song was actually Beauty and the Beast. 76 00:05:13,850 --> 00:05:15,490 We were a good team. 77 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,000 She understood. She understood my commitment. Like, she really did. 78 00:05:20,280 --> 00:05:26,560 When that adrenaline was pumping, he just wanted people to leave talking 79 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:31,140 how great a show it was at his own risk. 80 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:38,380 And that was his drive to keep going and get more crazy along the way. 81 00:05:38,700 --> 00:05:43,900 He developed a personality called Cactus Jack. You can't stop Cactus Jack! He 82 00:05:43,900 --> 00:05:46,840 was a wild and crazy guy. You thought he might be insane. 83 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,840 Are you kidding me? He had charisma. 84 00:05:50,280 --> 00:05:53,520 You couldn't take your eyes off this guy. He was different. He was unusual. 85 00:05:54,260 --> 00:05:58,380 I'm Jim Cornette, and at the time of the Hell in a Cell match, I was working as 86 00:05:58,380 --> 00:06:01,040 an agent and a producer for the WWF. 87 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,680 Mick was excellent with psychology in his matches. 88 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:08,800 He knew that the fans liked people that were out of control. 89 00:06:09,460 --> 00:06:12,760 Someone who was going against the script. 90 00:06:14,180 --> 00:06:19,460 He could take those people on that ride with him and elicit the response that he 91 00:06:19,460 --> 00:06:20,460 wanted to get. 92 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,600 Then the attention would be on him and his reputation would grow. 93 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:27,480 Our bedroom. 94 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:33,000 Furniture consisted of a mattress on the floor with a black and white television 95 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:39,960 with a VCR that barely worked. And in that VCR, it was Japanese wrestling 96 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:45,920 I would sometimes watch 12 hours of Japanese wrestling a day. 97 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,060 I like the realism, the storytelling. 98 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,460 It's not just man versus man. 99 00:06:51,660 --> 00:06:54,480 You have to defeat the surroundings, you know. 100 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,840 I thought Japan was likely to be where I made my living. 101 00:07:00,340 --> 00:07:03,760 They were looking for a foreigner who could feud with Terry Funk. 102 00:07:05,100 --> 00:07:11,460 Terry Funk was the greatest of all time for his ability to make people suspend 103 00:07:11,460 --> 00:07:13,400 disbelief in a second. 104 00:07:16,060 --> 00:07:20,240 Terry Funk became somewhat of a mentor to Mick. 105 00:07:21,020 --> 00:07:27,400 And they started working together in these explosive, bloody, violent, fiery 106 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:28,980 death matches in Japan. 107 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,960 I was always drawn to the wild stuff, so I would literally be on my hands and 108 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,620 knees. And I thought that was proof that I had done something special. 109 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,660 This is a place I can make myself stand out. 110 00:07:43,940 --> 00:07:48,160 So I never saw myself being a WWE guy. 111 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,960 In WWF at the time, it wasn't a PG era. It was a G -rated era. 112 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,080 Very bland. 113 00:07:57,820 --> 00:08:02,380 And for someone like Mick, his style didn't really gel with 114 00:08:02,380 --> 00:08:06,320 what WWF was selling. 115 00:08:06,940 --> 00:08:10,380 My name is Al Snow. I'm a former WWE superstar. 116 00:08:11,060 --> 00:08:16,620 I was Mick Foley's travel partner and, dare I say, probably his best friend. 117 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,480 Probably his only friend. 118 00:08:19,420 --> 00:08:20,740 I'm just kidding. 119 00:08:21,020 --> 00:08:26,060 Vince McMahon did not want Mick Foley. Didn't think that he was marketable. 120 00:08:26,660 --> 00:08:27,940 Didn't think he was attractive. 121 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:36,780 How I convinced McMahon to hire Mick was to give me a chance on my observations 122 00:08:36,780 --> 00:08:39,140 of talent. Because I see something in this guy. 123 00:08:40,059 --> 00:08:45,320 I'm Jim Ross, and at the time of the Hell in a Cell, I was vice president of 124 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:46,320 talent relations. 125 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,220 I needed to make sure that we had dancing partners for the top guys. 126 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,180 Undertaker was one of the biggest stars in the history of wrestling. Long live 127 00:08:55,180 --> 00:08:56,260 The Undertaker! 128 00:08:56,620 --> 00:09:01,320 Vince kept trying to go with giants to face The Undertaker, which was boring 129 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,500 dull. What you needed was a lunatic. 130 00:09:05,740 --> 00:09:10,040 I'd heard a story about Vince slamming his hand down on a table and said, all 131 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:14,040 right, I'll bring him in, but I'm covering up his face. 132 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,700 We don't know who he is. We don't know nothing about him. Well, he's nobody. 133 00:09:17,860 --> 00:09:20,520 He's nothing. That's Vince's perception of Mick Foley. 134 00:09:21,580 --> 00:09:26,280 Hey, everybody. I'm Gerald Briscoe, better known as Jerry Briscoe, WWE Hall 135 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,400 Famer and Chickasaw Nation Hall of Famer. 136 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:33,560 Vince Beckman was like, okay, now you guys go build a character around 137 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,340 So we come down to mankind. 138 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,200 What the hell is mankind? 139 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:39,900 Yeah, here he comes. 140 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:41,560 Mankind. 141 00:09:43,430 --> 00:09:47,110 This bogus bullshit wouldn't have worked with anybody but Mick Foley. 142 00:09:47,390 --> 00:09:53,390 Without a connection to the audience, without character, everything else is 143 00:09:53,390 --> 00:09:56,290 meaningless. I think fans can sense the commitment. 144 00:09:56,630 --> 00:09:59,990 My goal for Mick was that he was going to be a great opponent for The 145 00:09:59,990 --> 00:10:00,990 Undertaker. 146 00:10:01,290 --> 00:10:02,870 He was willing to try anything. 147 00:10:04,550 --> 00:10:07,410 My granny would say he didn't turn nothing down but the covers. 148 00:10:08,810 --> 00:10:11,970 So now I've got this big challenge. 149 00:10:12,350 --> 00:10:13,630 to not let him kill himself. 150 00:10:14,710 --> 00:10:18,330 The Undertaker and I were laying quite a foundation. 151 00:10:18,810 --> 00:10:21,530 Seven pay -per -view matches, ten TV matches. 152 00:10:21,790 --> 00:10:23,630 We'd been around the globe together. 153 00:10:25,270 --> 00:10:28,390 But my character had kind of plateaued. 154 00:10:29,090 --> 00:10:34,490 I knew I had to do something, something that would add to instead of detract 155 00:10:34,490 --> 00:10:35,710 from our legacy. 156 00:10:36,450 --> 00:10:42,420 For 1998's King of the Ring pay -per -view, WWF producers plan to reignite 157 00:10:42,420 --> 00:10:47,520 Mankind -Undertaker feud with a recently developed concept, Hell in a Cell. 158 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:53,140 The way that they did cage matches in the WWF was you had to either get out by 159 00:10:53,140 --> 00:10:56,060 either climbing over the cage or leaving through the door. 160 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,300 I asked Vince McMahon, I said, what about if this cage match is different? 161 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,360 What about if we put a roof on the cage? 162 00:11:04,740 --> 00:11:07,240 Both go in, only one's coming out. 163 00:11:07,850 --> 00:11:10,290 And that's where we came up with Hell in a Cell. 164 00:11:11,150 --> 00:11:16,110 Undertaker and Shawn Michaels had the first Hell in a Cell, and it was a mile 165 00:11:16,110 --> 00:11:17,110 marker. 166 00:11:17,930 --> 00:11:22,790 Well, the Michaels -Undertaker match, technically, to me, it's still the best 167 00:11:22,790 --> 00:11:23,790 one. 168 00:11:24,090 --> 00:11:29,710 I just looked at this match open -jawed. I literally can't do any of the things 169 00:11:29,710 --> 00:11:31,030 that these guys are doing. 170 00:11:32,669 --> 00:11:36,810 Some nine months later, they're going to do it again, this time The Undertaker 171 00:11:36,810 --> 00:11:37,810 and Mankind. 172 00:11:38,530 --> 00:11:41,710 And then I asked Terry Funk, what are we going to do? 173 00:11:42,230 --> 00:11:47,430 And he started laughing. You know, what would be funny is, what if you actually 174 00:11:47,430 --> 00:11:49,490 started the match on top of the cell? 175 00:11:49,990 --> 00:11:51,770 And what if you were thrown off? 176 00:11:52,250 --> 00:11:53,930 He's saying it as a joke. 177 00:11:54,190 --> 00:11:58,010 He stopped laughing. I looked at him and I said, I think I can do that. 178 00:11:59,690 --> 00:12:04,690 I could not get the idea out of my head. I pitched The Undertaker and Mr. 179 00:12:04,770 --> 00:12:10,290 McMahon. The idea being thrown off into a casual conversation, it was a great 180 00:12:10,290 --> 00:12:11,290 sell job. 181 00:12:11,810 --> 00:12:16,050 I wasn't on board, really, for throwing Nick off the shelf. 182 00:12:16,330 --> 00:12:18,590 And, you know, he was dead set. 183 00:12:18,810 --> 00:12:21,330 And then, you know, we got Vince on board with him. 184 00:12:21,570 --> 00:12:23,370 I was like, well, okay. 185 00:12:23,930 --> 00:12:26,690 I was not looking at this match as like... 186 00:12:27,370 --> 00:12:31,870 a second act in my career, I was just looking at it as a way to try to keep my 187 00:12:31,870 --> 00:12:32,870 head above water. 188 00:12:33,230 --> 00:12:37,710 I thought, when this run is done, I am too. 189 00:12:38,090 --> 00:12:41,450 Did you know going into this what Mick had planned? 190 00:12:41,730 --> 00:12:46,710 Yes. He told me the high spots that he was going to be all right. 191 00:12:47,790 --> 00:12:50,230 Welcome everybody to the King of the Ring! 192 00:12:50,590 --> 00:12:54,390 If he can see it, he can do it. And I trust that. 193 00:12:54,910 --> 00:12:59,470 We have only seen one Hell in a Cell matchup in WWF history, and it was the 194 00:12:59,470 --> 00:13:03,630 unbelievable match that I think I've ever witnessed, JR. I remember 195 00:13:03,630 --> 00:13:08,530 thinking to myself, I need to come out with everything I've got, just eyes on 196 00:13:08,530 --> 00:13:09,530 the prize. 197 00:13:09,850 --> 00:13:15,050 This match has so much riding on it, JR, that the loser may not even stop at the 198 00:13:15,050 --> 00:13:16,050 hospital. 199 00:13:16,610 --> 00:13:21,390 They may go straight to the morgue. There's that old saying, be careful what 200 00:13:21,390 --> 00:13:23,310 wish for, you just might get it. 201 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:35,540 Ladies and gentlemen, the following podcast is The Hell in the Cell. 202 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:42,760 On June 28, 1998, at Pittsburgh Civic Arena, a packed house 203 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:47,480 eagerly awaits the Hell in a Cell showdown between Undertaker and Mankind. 204 00:13:48,740 --> 00:13:52,540 Yeah, you got to imagine the pressure that Mick's probably feeling as he's 205 00:13:52,540 --> 00:13:57,320 walking to the ring, you know, knowing that the last time an audience saw this 206 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:02,620 match, it was Shawn and Taker, knowing that he's got to outdo that. 207 00:14:03,580 --> 00:14:06,720 Poor Mick, he's not exactly the most nimble guy in the world either. 208 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:11,160 My name is Jimmy Corderas. At the time of Hell in a Cell, I was part of the 209 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,700 crew and also a referee. 210 00:14:13,300 --> 00:14:15,540 I was backstage watching on the monitors. 211 00:14:16,010 --> 00:14:18,130 And Gerald Briscoe was the one who produces there. 212 00:14:19,030 --> 00:14:23,750 I had the best seat in the house, sat right in front of about ten monitors 213 00:14:23,750 --> 00:14:24,750 watching everything. 214 00:14:25,150 --> 00:14:28,890 So you were like basically sitting in the captain's seat during Hell in a 215 00:14:29,050 --> 00:14:30,390 I was the pilot, baby. 216 00:14:31,570 --> 00:14:35,250 This is probably the first time in 20 years that I've watched this, Matt. 217 00:14:35,530 --> 00:14:39,430 No one knew what to anticipate, and I don't think anyone could have ever 218 00:14:39,430 --> 00:14:41,310 imagined what they were going to see. 219 00:14:41,990 --> 00:14:42,990 Hello again, everybody. 220 00:14:43,210 --> 00:14:45,730 I'm Jim Ross, alongside Jerry the King Lawler. 221 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:51,280 I was as much in the dark as a fan watching at home. I did want to start 222 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,420 match in a way nobody had ever started a match before and to do something no one 223 00:14:55,420 --> 00:14:56,420 had ever done. 224 00:15:00,780 --> 00:15:07,600 I think there's a little bit of shock on everybody's face. Like, he's going up 225 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,820 now? He's going up at the beginning of the match? 226 00:15:12,220 --> 00:15:13,900 What next? 227 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,080 I mean, he needs therapy. 228 00:15:17,460 --> 00:15:22,120 I had not been on top of the cell. I assured Mr. McMahon of The Undertaker, 229 00:15:22,140 --> 00:15:25,760 yeah, I've been up there, it's fine. But the truth is, when I got up there, I 230 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:26,559 was terrified. 231 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:27,920 I'm actually not good with heights. 232 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,260 Whoa, it's totally dark in here. He may fall off that cell. 233 00:15:32,700 --> 00:15:37,800 The entire time The Undertaker's music is playing, I'm thinking to myself, how 234 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:44,120 can I gracefully climb down this cell without ruining my career? 235 00:15:44,420 --> 00:15:45,420 Wait a minute. 236 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,480 Do you think he's daring The Undertaker to start this match up there? 237 00:15:49,100 --> 00:15:50,960 I thought it was a hell of a way to start. 238 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,620 Apparently Hell in a Cell Max is officially underway. 239 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,000 It created a theater of the mind that one could not get past. 240 00:16:01,500 --> 00:16:02,540 Something's going to happen. 241 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:03,820 What's going to happen? 242 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:10,260 They had attached the top section of the cage with zip ties. 243 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,800 But there's 600 pounds of human beings up there. 244 00:16:16,020 --> 00:16:20,540 The Undertaker and I all take a step, and that mesh goes down by about a foot. 245 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:26,260 And I literally hear zip ties springing. 246 00:16:26,940 --> 00:16:32,040 They're destroying the hell in the cell. When those zip ties were popping off, I 247 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,300 thought, oh boy, this is not good. 248 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,320 I attempt to suplex the Undertaker on top of that mesh. 249 00:16:38,730 --> 00:16:43,110 He cut that off, knowing that, you know, there was a decent chance we were both 250 00:16:43,110 --> 00:16:44,110 going to go through it. 251 00:16:45,510 --> 00:16:48,790 They're throwing punches, and they got towards the edge of the cage where the 252 00:16:48,790 --> 00:16:49,790 announce tables were. 253 00:16:49,910 --> 00:16:53,310 I thought when they got close to the edge, there's just no way in hell that 254 00:16:53,310 --> 00:16:55,530 Nick's going to take a tumble off the top of the cage. 255 00:16:56,530 --> 00:16:57,630 That's too dangerous. 256 00:16:58,490 --> 00:16:59,670 That's too iffy. 257 00:17:00,490 --> 00:17:02,270 There's very little margin for error. 258 00:17:02,670 --> 00:17:05,069 I look at this incredibly small table. 259 00:17:06,450 --> 00:17:08,450 like a little dollhouse. 260 00:17:08,670 --> 00:17:11,970 I don't know how in the world it's going to work out. 261 00:17:13,430 --> 00:17:19,569 And lo and behold, the closer they got to the edge of the cage, the more I 262 00:17:19,569 --> 00:17:22,430 became convinced that something big was going to happen here momentarily. 263 00:17:23,710 --> 00:17:24,710 And it did. 264 00:17:29,010 --> 00:17:30,190 Then all of a sudden, 265 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,940 Here's Jim Ross and here's Jerry Lawler, as well as the Spanish announcers. 266 00:17:39,180 --> 00:17:45,960 And they're looking up and a 300 -pound human being is flung at them from almost 267 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,180 20 feet above them. 268 00:17:47,580 --> 00:17:49,280 And he's coming at them fast. 269 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,200 As strange as it sounds, it felt like it was going by in slow motion. 270 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,680 It also went by in the blink of an eye. 271 00:18:01,380 --> 00:18:03,120 All of a sudden you hear this. 272 00:18:03,940 --> 00:18:05,180 Mud! Crap! 273 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:12,140 Holy shit, did we just see what we thought we saw? 274 00:18:12,380 --> 00:18:17,140 The sound of Nick going through the announcer table was scary as hell. 275 00:18:18,140 --> 00:18:22,360 Everyone over from the back, we just exploded in concern. 276 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,920 It was like witnessing a car accident. 277 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,600 Ooh, you will, thought he was dead. 278 00:18:29,820 --> 00:18:31,140 We need doctors out here! 279 00:18:32,140 --> 00:18:34,280 Folks, we apologize. This match has stopped. 280 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:35,520 Dead in its tracks. 281 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:41,500 In a business filled with crazy, strange things, nobody had ever tried to do 282 00:18:41,500 --> 00:18:42,500 something like this before. 283 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,520 It blew everybody's mind. 284 00:18:46,020 --> 00:18:49,440 And I thought, my God, this is over. There's no way he's going to get back 285 00:18:58,250 --> 00:19:01,230 There was an audible gasp where everyone went, no! 286 00:19:04,090 --> 00:19:10,770 We had two young children at the time, and they 287 00:19:10,770 --> 00:19:17,570 didn't know what to think of it. All I kept saying was, oh, it's 288 00:19:17,570 --> 00:19:23,750 vague, just to soothe them. Yet in the back of my mind, I'm freaking out. 289 00:19:24,690 --> 00:19:25,910 It's tough. 290 00:19:26,360 --> 00:19:29,280 To know when it really, really, really is real. 291 00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:32,460 But it had to have hurt him. 292 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,000 And it was believable. 293 00:19:35,140 --> 00:19:39,800 If the undertaker threw him just a little too far or a little too short, 294 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:44,640 falling from God knows how high onto concrete. Or could have even landed on 295 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,720 fans. The pain would come later. I'm kind of flying high on adrenaline. 296 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,140 And I've pulled off this pretty lofty goal. 297 00:19:53,420 --> 00:19:54,420 I mean... 298 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,600 Going through the table could not have gone better. He saw it in his head, and 299 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:03,920 in midair, he turned in such a way that he was able to land flat on that 300 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,380 announce desk to cushion that fall and not kill him. 301 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,260 And when it did happen, you should have heard the voices back there. 302 00:20:11,500 --> 00:20:12,500 Replay that. 303 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,260 Then you go into business mode where you're trying to get every great shot 304 00:20:16,260 --> 00:20:17,260 you had with it. 305 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:22,060 Hugo Savinovich, the Spanish commentator, bailed out of his chair 306 00:20:22,060 --> 00:20:23,060 getting flattened. 307 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:29,920 It was pretty traumatic, to be honest, because it was my friend out there 308 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:36,240 and being torn with the rule that you don't step in, you don't interfere with 309 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,520 whatever Mick was trying to construct. 310 00:20:38,820 --> 00:20:44,260 The fans were literally having this guy laying at their feet, and they're 311 00:20:44,260 --> 00:20:48,220 looking at all the attendants and the referees. There's Terry Funk. 312 00:20:48,580 --> 00:20:50,480 Terry Funk was the first one to get there. 313 00:20:51,180 --> 00:20:52,960 I asked Terry, is he conscious? 314 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:54,439 Right there. 315 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,100 Now we're trying to make room for Dr. Francois to get there. 316 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:03,940 So I was in my medical room, and suddenly I hear, right now, come right 317 00:21:03,940 --> 00:21:07,160 fail from the top of the cell. And I say, what? 318 00:21:07,980 --> 00:21:12,620 I'm Dr. Francois Petit, a .k .a. Chien Petit. I used to be the doctor for WWF 319 00:21:12,620 --> 00:21:16,540 for about four and a half, five years on the road, and before that for about 320 00:21:16,540 --> 00:21:18,860 eight, nine years in Los Angeles. 321 00:21:20,140 --> 00:21:21,860 Francois was kind of like the French Army Knight. 322 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,440 Francois was a black belt in karate. 323 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,120 He was Sub -Zero in the first Mortal Kombat movie. 324 00:21:29,100 --> 00:21:33,340 He was probably a secret agent and, you know, investment banker. 325 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,380 Francois was what I think they call them, bone crackers. 326 00:21:36,740 --> 00:21:37,860 He could fix you. 327 00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:43,840 You probably wouldn't enjoy it, but he could put you back in place. 328 00:21:45,970 --> 00:21:50,670 No matter what the malady was, baby, I fixed you. I fixed you, baby. It'll be 329 00:21:50,670 --> 00:21:51,670 okay. 330 00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:58,390 Of course, he was my number one patient, if I can say something like that. 331 00:22:02,550 --> 00:22:05,730 Well, this is nuts, what he did. 332 00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:10,910 He fell on his back badly, and on top of that, on his dislocated shoulder. 333 00:22:12,199 --> 00:22:15,880 The EMT people have no idea how to get the gurney down there. 334 00:22:16,260 --> 00:22:18,160 And it turns out the gurney wouldn't fit. 335 00:22:18,380 --> 00:22:22,180 So now they've got to raise the cell with the undertaker on it. Is he going 336 00:22:22,180 --> 00:22:23,180 jump down here? 337 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,620 He was put on that gurney like that was real. 338 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,560 They were going to take him to the hospital. 339 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,560 We thought the damn thing was over with. 340 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,660 I mean, what else can they do, you know? 341 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,420 But we found out. 342 00:22:35,020 --> 00:22:41,180 I realized that the longer I'm on there, the more fully the audience is. 343 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:47,780 I've never seen anything like that in my life. Well, I'm not. Yeah. But I've got 344 00:22:47,780 --> 00:22:50,000 a feeling that I'm going to be able to continue. 345 00:22:53,260 --> 00:22:57,740 Everybody was trying to tell him, no, Mick, you're done. Stop. 346 00:22:59,340 --> 00:23:04,440 What are you doing? Where are you going? Why are you doing this? 347 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,000 Just stay down. 348 00:23:09,900 --> 00:23:11,740 Holy shit, he's coming back for more? 349 00:23:12,140 --> 00:23:13,300 Are you kidding me? 350 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:14,920 They're tired. 351 00:23:14,940 --> 00:23:18,240 It's going back down. No way. So is the Undertaker. No way. 352 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,900 I'm thinking this is going to be the craziest, dumbest SOB in our business. 353 00:23:23,260 --> 00:23:27,360 How can he climb? How can his body? At this point, I do not know how I'm going 354 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:28,360 to do this and live. 355 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:33,820 But I have pledged to do it, and I'm going to do it. This is absolutely 356 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,020 Absolutely amazing here. 357 00:23:37,230 --> 00:23:39,350 I'm thinking to myself, you're insane, you're an idiot. 358 00:23:39,550 --> 00:23:43,030 But at the same time that I'm thinking that, I'm thinking that was the moment 359 00:23:43,030 --> 00:23:45,370 that really made him a star. 360 00:23:45,870 --> 00:23:50,550 By then, backstage was packed because they know shit's going on. 361 00:23:51,270 --> 00:23:54,870 I stayed back where I was because I knew something else was going to happen. I 362 00:23:54,870 --> 00:23:59,850 knew. I guess at the end of the day, I'm glad that they went back up because it 363 00:23:59,850 --> 00:24:00,930 created another moment. 364 00:24:01,290 --> 00:24:02,710 It added to the storyline. 365 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,160 But sometimes you can storyline yourself right to the hospital. 366 00:24:08,260 --> 00:24:13,840 The neck spot in the storyline pitched by Nick Foley was far less concerning. 367 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:20,300 least at first. We had already agreed on the one choke slam, 368 00:24:20,580 --> 00:24:26,680 which we thought would cause the mash to gradually give way. And the big visual 369 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,200 is going to be Undertaker like stuffing me down. 370 00:24:29,660 --> 00:24:31,960 But that did not happen. 371 00:24:37,710 --> 00:24:39,910 And now, Houston, we got a problem. 372 00:24:40,430 --> 00:24:47,310 I thought that the destruction of the Foley body was well in hand. 373 00:24:52,130 --> 00:24:56,470 It's a completely different situation than when he got thrown off the top. 374 00:24:56,670 --> 00:24:58,310 You just, you just know. 375 00:24:59,010 --> 00:25:01,250 I'm screaming at the TV set. 376 00:25:01,670 --> 00:25:03,610 I am cursing. 377 00:25:03,970 --> 00:25:05,970 I was like trying to get. 378 00:25:06,510 --> 00:25:08,230 The company on the phone. 379 00:25:08,970 --> 00:25:11,610 And I couldn't get through to anybody. I couldn't get through to anybody. 380 00:25:12,450 --> 00:25:15,810 How do you tell your children, oh, daddy's acting? 381 00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:22,550 Laying there lifeless, motionless. This was not expected at all. 382 00:25:22,750 --> 00:25:24,610 I thought that was the end of him. 383 00:25:38,860 --> 00:25:43,160 When he hit that solid mat, the 384 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:49,580 mat doesn't do it justice. It's more like hitting the cement. 385 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:56,400 As he's falling, that metal, heavy, solid folding chair 386 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:02,540 came right behind him. You can see when he lands that chair, boom, there's a 387 00:26:02,540 --> 00:26:03,640 chair on his face, boom. 388 00:26:04,270 --> 00:26:08,570 He could have very easily died. I mean, my mom thought he was dead also. 389 00:26:09,030 --> 00:26:12,550 I was shocked. I was screaming. I was furious. 390 00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:19,650 Because I thought he betrayed me by not telling me the truth that there was 391 00:26:19,650 --> 00:26:20,650 another spot. 392 00:26:20,830 --> 00:26:22,330 There we go. Joke plan. Oh. 393 00:26:23,930 --> 00:26:27,110 That was the first time in his career that he'd been legitimately knocked out 394 00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:29,510 cold. We all flooded the cage, Dr. 395 00:26:29,890 --> 00:26:31,250 Francois, Terry Funk. 396 00:26:31,630 --> 00:26:35,300 The guys that went out there were thinking, This might be the end. 397 00:26:35,500 --> 00:26:38,000 He was really not responsive at that point. 398 00:26:40,340 --> 00:26:42,380 I turn around and look at Undertaker. 399 00:26:42,860 --> 00:26:44,320 And I say, okay, that's enough. 400 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:47,120 Because I saw his eyes not answering. 401 00:26:48,820 --> 00:26:54,000 Man, he'd landed in such a funky way. I didn't know that he was going to get up. 402 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,520 I was legit scared for what the results were going to be. 403 00:26:58,340 --> 00:27:02,340 The Undertaker, he looked at Terry and said, see if he's alive. 404 00:27:03,679 --> 00:27:06,580 Terry reports back, he's still breathing. 405 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,600 There were so many times when I've seen stars, but I'd never been out for more 406 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,600 than a couple seconds. 407 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,480 And this time, there's 42 seconds that I don't recall. 408 00:27:17,820 --> 00:27:21,560 Terry Funk took it into his own hands and walked up to Undertaker and said, 409 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,560 me. 410 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,360 So he could take the focus away from Mick a little bit so everybody could 411 00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:28,159 to him. 412 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,100 It's all ad lib, it's all at the moment. 413 00:27:34,890 --> 00:27:39,530 If I'd ever seen a match that should have been stopped, that was probably the 414 00:27:39,530 --> 00:27:42,710 one. But he just didn't do it back then. 415 00:27:43,790 --> 00:27:47,370 We didn't stop matches. We bought time. 416 00:27:47,570 --> 00:27:50,090 And I needed every second that I could get. 417 00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:57,610 When I came to and I immediately saw Terry Funk's shoes, I then realized I'm 418 00:27:57,610 --> 00:28:00,450 this match. And that's where I try to stand. 419 00:28:00,670 --> 00:28:03,130 How is he still standing up? I don't have a damn clue. 420 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,440 Oh my God, he is a freaking mess. 421 00:28:08,020 --> 00:28:11,900 It's really crazy to think that they would allow this to happen. 422 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:16,540 Just like someone go unconscious and then continue the match. 423 00:28:16,820 --> 00:28:22,340 As the clouds began to clear, I was all about trying to create an image for TV. 424 00:28:22,580 --> 00:28:27,340 I've got a massive wound underneath my lip, and if I can find a way to take my 425 00:28:27,340 --> 00:28:32,160 tongue, stick it through that massive wound, it's going to make for a great TV 426 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,160 moment. 427 00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:35,260 Oh, my. And he's smiling. 428 00:28:35,540 --> 00:28:36,540 There's the tooth. 429 00:28:36,700 --> 00:28:37,700 There's the tooth. 430 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,460 How do you get hit in the face with a chair and it knocks your tooth out and 431 00:28:42,460 --> 00:28:46,740 ends up in your nostril? One of the doctors said that it went into his 432 00:28:46,820 --> 00:28:50,800 but because he was breathing so heavily that he had sucked it up the other way 433 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,740 and it came down through his nasal passage. What is that sticking out of 434 00:28:53,740 --> 00:28:54,880 nose? Maybe a tooth? 435 00:28:55,140 --> 00:28:59,460 This match was real. The pain was real. The drama was real. The expressions on 436 00:28:59,460 --> 00:29:00,920 everybody's face were real. 437 00:29:01,140 --> 00:29:02,140 Real concern. 438 00:29:03,379 --> 00:29:06,180 You can look in his eyes and tell you there was nobody home. 439 00:29:06,460 --> 00:29:08,420 And I'm trying to talk to him. 440 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,980 All he wanted to do is, we've got to get to the tax. 441 00:29:14,740 --> 00:29:21,460 This was their first 442 00:29:21,460 --> 00:29:22,580 appearance in WWE. 443 00:29:22,980 --> 00:29:26,140 I felt like I should be the guy to bring them over. 444 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,840 purposely rolling around, make sure he gets all the thumbtacks on him as much 445 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,840 possible. 446 00:29:39,620 --> 00:29:44,720 When the adrenaline is taking over, you don't realize the pain anymore. 447 00:29:44,940 --> 00:29:49,240 You're part of the pain. You're pushing so far, you don't even know you're doing 448 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:55,140 it. Mick is very big about come hell or high water, whatever it is, he will see 449 00:29:55,140 --> 00:29:56,140 it through. 450 00:29:57,460 --> 00:30:00,920 Finally, the 17 -minute match comes to an end. 451 00:30:01,740 --> 00:30:04,180 with The Undertaker defeating mankind. 452 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,380 What a spectacle it was. 453 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,920 In that Pittsburgh Civic Arena, 16 ,000 people. 454 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,000 We've never seen anything like this before. 455 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,600 They brought the stretcher up because we thought it was needed for sure. 456 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:24,860 But he waved it off, and that crowd went absolutely insane. 457 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,920 This was real as a heart attack, and the people could tell. 458 00:30:31,580 --> 00:30:37,420 That put the fan in the corner of this guy who just cannot be stopped. 459 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,080 And that's the kind of shit that gets over. 460 00:30:42,820 --> 00:30:48,280 An audience has invested their time, their money, and their effort in one 461 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,060 thing, and that is the belief in you. 462 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:55,960 He knew and understood that risking his well -being allows them to more 463 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,740 thoroughly believe in him and the experience. 464 00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:02,780 Thank God this is over. 465 00:31:03,020 --> 00:31:08,280 We kept taking these chances and another chance and another chance after a fly. 466 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:14,100 As long as I live, I will never forget what we just witnessed right there. He 467 00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:17,640 would always call and check in with me, let me know that he's okay. 468 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,600 And now here comes the one pay -per -view where she really needs to know, 469 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,600 there's no phone call. 470 00:31:23,950 --> 00:31:30,610 I had to wait and wait and wait. It made me worry. And that anger came back. 471 00:31:30,910 --> 00:31:34,210 And a few hours later, Mick calls me. 472 00:31:34,530 --> 00:31:37,830 She was screaming at me. Your children thought you were dead. 473 00:31:39,470 --> 00:31:46,290 I think prior to the cell, she prepared by trusting that I 474 00:31:46,290 --> 00:31:48,930 wasn't going to do anything to jeopardize the family. 475 00:31:49,150 --> 00:31:51,170 After that. 476 00:31:51,850 --> 00:31:53,330 It became a big concern. 477 00:32:00,790 --> 00:32:04,530 When Mick came back through the curtain, I mean, everybody rushed up and wanted 478 00:32:04,530 --> 00:32:09,310 to check on him and make sure he was as okay as he could possibly be. 479 00:32:10,010 --> 00:32:14,270 One of the first people to greet Mick at the curtain was Vince McMahon. 480 00:32:14,550 --> 00:32:18,170 He said, Mick, I want to thank you for what you've done for my company, and I 481 00:32:18,170 --> 00:32:21,250 want you to promise me that you will never do anything like it again. 482 00:32:21,740 --> 00:32:23,940 And pull those thumbtacks out of him. 483 00:32:24,420 --> 00:32:29,820 I'm going backstage and I overheard Mick say to Taker, did we do the thumbtack 484 00:32:29,820 --> 00:32:33,700 spot? He doesn't realize that the doctor is just plucking him out of him right 485 00:32:33,700 --> 00:32:38,400 now? When you love somebody and you respect them as much as I did Mick, my 486 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,200 thought was, are you okay? 487 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:41,880 Are you really okay? 488 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:48,680 I don't think he truly anticipated how severe that was going to be like that 489 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,040 night. I had to help him get undressed and then into bed. 490 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,240 You know, he was messed up on that one. 491 00:32:56,540 --> 00:33:01,300 I think it was 15 stitches underneath the lip, off these two teeth. 492 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,180 I don't even know if I was treated for a concussion. I had a bruised kidney for 493 00:33:06,180 --> 00:33:10,580 about six weeks. My jaw was dislocated. I can't remember which shoulder was 494 00:33:10,580 --> 00:33:12,860 dislocated. But you know what? 495 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,700 That match changed the way people felt about me. 496 00:33:17,450 --> 00:33:21,350 And that's what really sparked the career renaissance. 497 00:33:21,730 --> 00:33:28,230 With what you did at Hell in a Cell, I want to publicly thank you. Going 498 00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:34,910 from Vince not wanting to see him in a WWF ring 499 00:33:34,910 --> 00:33:37,710 to six months after that match, he was world champion. 500 00:33:37,970 --> 00:33:44,730 The reaction, the pop, the adrenaline, the rush. The more he did, the more 501 00:33:44,730 --> 00:33:46,590 he took. It made me worry. 502 00:33:47,230 --> 00:33:50,950 The bar kept just going up because it was never good enough. 503 00:33:51,470 --> 00:33:57,010 I think he felt like he had to live up to being the hardcore legend, continuing 504 00:33:57,010 --> 00:33:59,750 things that he probably shouldn't have. 505 00:34:00,710 --> 00:34:05,390 Mick, at that point, was about what are the limits of physical human endurance? 506 00:34:06,150 --> 00:34:10,810 He felt like he owed it to the guy he was working with. He owed it to the 507 00:34:10,810 --> 00:34:13,710 to do something that they hadn't seen before. 508 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:22,360 I remember not a scolding, but a warning. If you continue to try to do 509 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,679 type things, it's going to catch up with you. 510 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,960 He understood, but he didn't agree with me. 511 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:35,040 Just seven months later, Mick Foley again pushes his limits, this time in a 512 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,179 brutal showdown with The Rock in the infamous I Quit match. 513 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:44,040 No stopping the match for excessive blood loss. 514 00:34:46,889 --> 00:34:52,630 I told Mick, that's a horrible idea, but he was going to do what he needed to do 515 00:34:52,630 --> 00:34:57,410 and what he wanted to do. I mean, he's riding the big tidal waves. 516 00:34:57,670 --> 00:35:01,970 Well, I also think it had something to do with my way of making it seem like 517 00:35:01,970 --> 00:35:03,610 everything was going to be all right. 518 00:35:03,990 --> 00:35:07,850 He was one of the worst days of my life. And the eyewitness is underway. 519 00:35:08,990 --> 00:35:12,830 I had both children with me. It was super brutal from the beginning. 520 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,860 I got carried away with The Rock. I had told him, lay it in. 521 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:24,680 He did. 522 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,300 But instead of taking five shots, I took 11 shots. 523 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:38,520 His kids were not old enough at that point to really 524 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,060 ascertain what was fact and what was fiction. 525 00:35:43,660 --> 00:35:47,220 But also, in the middle of this fiction, it was a fact. 526 00:35:47,420 --> 00:35:51,360 He got brain damage for a wrestling angle on television. 527 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,320 Where does it end? What does it take now to put you down? 528 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:05,320 So this sounds pretty bizarre, but I don't have one singular 529 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,500 memory of my dad ever wrestling. 530 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,600 Part of me thinks it's because... 531 00:36:11,050 --> 00:36:17,810 It was very traumatic to me. Like, how could these 11 shots change my dad's 532 00:36:17,810 --> 00:36:18,810 health? 533 00:36:19,330 --> 00:36:25,130 Like, if you were to get 11 headshots, a normal person probably could have died. 534 00:36:26,170 --> 00:36:27,830 It's sickening, honestly. 535 00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:30,950 I really, really hate the I Quit match. 536 00:36:31,410 --> 00:36:37,210 Mick, I always wanted to over -deliver. And somewhere down the road, all of us 537 00:36:37,210 --> 00:36:39,610 need to ask ourselves the question, was it worth it? 538 00:36:41,740 --> 00:36:46,180 I understood that the style I chose was going to result in great discomfort. 539 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:53,980 There were so many times when I could have made a move less painful, but I 540 00:36:53,980 --> 00:36:56,100 not to because I thought it would look better. 541 00:36:57,500 --> 00:37:01,160 There were a handful of doctors saying that you need to stop now. 542 00:37:01,380 --> 00:37:05,860 If you continue wrestling, you'll wind up crippled. Do you think that stopped 543 00:37:05,860 --> 00:37:06,860 him? 544 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,180 I still thought I had one good match left in me. 545 00:37:13,230 --> 00:37:16,950 And so I set about trying to delay the inevitable. 546 00:37:18,450 --> 00:37:23,850 There were times when he should not have been wrestling. He shouldn't have been 547 00:37:23,850 --> 00:37:24,850 cleared. 548 00:37:25,770 --> 00:37:31,410 He'd drive around and not remember where he lived. 549 00:37:31,810 --> 00:37:35,530 It's concussion on top of concussion on top of concussion. 550 00:37:36,530 --> 00:37:42,410 My appointment with the WWE neurologist had not gone particularly well, so I 551 00:37:42,410 --> 00:37:44,470 booked an appointment independent of WWE. 552 00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:48,270 I'll never forget what he told me. He said, Mr. Foley, if you want to try to 553 00:37:48,270 --> 00:37:52,210 find another neurologist to clear you, that's up to you, but I'm telling you, 554 00:37:52,270 --> 00:37:54,350 you should never wrestle again. 555 00:37:55,530 --> 00:38:01,130 If you've pushed those physical limits like Mick has, yeah, you're definitely 556 00:38:01,130 --> 00:38:05,310 going to pay a price, and sadly, Mick is paying that price. 557 00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:06,720 Right now. 558 00:38:13,180 --> 00:38:19,840 Back then, we didn't know the long -term effects of concussions. When guys 559 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,900 take a bump, they have an impact in the ring. 560 00:38:24,220 --> 00:38:28,500 Similar to experiencing a 25 -mile -per -hour car accident. 561 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,180 I can only imagine the type of pain that Nick has to live with. 562 00:38:36,180 --> 00:38:38,580 He's paid the price for all this fame. 563 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,940 Nick is very special, and he's lucky he's still with us. 564 00:38:42,940 --> 00:38:46,260 PPE is a very scary disease. 565 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:53,480 That is a long -term effect of repetitive concussions and brain trauma. 566 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:59,820 We don't really know how my dad will be doing in 10, 20 years or so. 567 00:39:00,140 --> 00:39:03,640 If you're wondering if I'm worried about that, yeah, yeah, yeah. 568 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,140 Really worried. Every day, I worry about that. 569 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:13,440 The fallout from what I've done, I honestly, I don't see a way out of it. 570 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,380 That's one of the most respected and beloved men to ever compete in our 571 00:39:18,380 --> 00:39:22,320 business. But I'm going to fight it. I'm going to try to be someone who 572 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,320 continues to get sharper as they get older. 573 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,720 And so I have these spoken word shows. 574 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:33,040 It's like mental gymnastics for my mind. And I hear the crowd chanting. 575 00:39:34,300 --> 00:39:35,300 Undertaker. 576 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:43,180 Putting on a show, having that stimulation from people, that keeps him 577 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:48,520 I can either appreciate what I have or I could live in complete fear about the 578 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,520 unknown. So I'm going to continue to enjoy myself. 579 00:39:53,660 --> 00:39:55,040 He lived his dream. 580 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,760 He made his dream. 581 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:03,160 He needs to feel accepted, especially around his 582 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:10,160 legacy. I tell him, go, do the things you like to do, but don't push 583 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,160 your luck. 584 00:40:11,740 --> 00:40:16,480 Colette knew that I was kind of my own worst enemy when I was in the ring. 585 00:40:16,860 --> 00:40:23,160 We dress up in wild costumes and engage in a fantasy form of combat that leaves 586 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:29,100 a lot of us in worse condition than we arrived at. And we do it to earn the 587 00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:31,340 acceptance of total strangers. 588 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:39,460 For me, it was all about the reactions, the eyes lighting up, my desire to be 589 00:40:39,460 --> 00:40:44,660 authentic. I definitely wanted to be loved. 590 00:40:45,710 --> 00:40:52,470 All the sacrifices you put your physique through just for the roar of 591 00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:53,470 them. 592 00:40:54,770 --> 00:40:56,310 I like that roar. 593 00:40:56,830 --> 00:41:02,530 You can't say that's a fault without also admitting that it's responsible for 594 00:41:02,530 --> 00:41:03,530 success. 595 00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:07,030 Mick Foley is known for many things. 596 00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:11,810 He's a multiple -time champion. He's donated time and energies to charities. 597 00:41:13,580 --> 00:41:15,600 What he's known for is Hell in a Cell. 598 00:41:21,380 --> 00:41:28,000 For years, I really harbored some resentment for that match because it was 599 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,640 only thing that I was known for. 600 00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:32,480 I was in a dark place for a while. 601 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,900 On one hand, I knew I'd done a lot in wrestling. On the other hand, I felt 602 00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:38,240 I'd accomplished nothing at all. 603 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:44,290 The Undertaker and I, we were reminiscing, and he says, you know, 604 00:41:44,290 --> 00:41:46,250 did that night will outlive us both. 605 00:41:46,490 --> 00:41:50,070 That was a major step in embracing that moment. 606 00:41:50,290 --> 00:41:54,590 That's what I got into wrestling for, to try to create moments like that. 607 00:41:56,110 --> 00:42:01,230 I think fans are going to remember him as a guy who gave his heart and soul to 608 00:42:01,230 --> 00:42:04,710 this business and appreciate him immensely for it. 609 00:42:05,050 --> 00:42:11,050 The audience is coming to be in awe because few people in the world can put 610 00:42:11,050 --> 00:42:12,050 in awe. 611 00:42:12,430 --> 00:42:15,370 And those people do. This is the beauty of it. 612 00:42:21,590 --> 00:42:28,510 Me and my dad, we were at the WWE warehouse, 613 00:42:28,830 --> 00:42:32,150 and we came across the cell. 614 00:42:34,370 --> 00:42:37,290 My dad certainly wasn't expecting to see it. 615 00:42:38,570 --> 00:42:40,470 He touched it. 616 00:42:41,710 --> 00:42:45,990 And he just started tearing up and started crying. 617 00:42:48,290 --> 00:42:50,330 I've never seen my dad cry. 618 00:42:50,930 --> 00:42:57,530 For something to make him cry must have been really important 619 00:42:57,530 --> 00:43:03,610 and life -changing and also probably pretty scary. 620 00:43:04,650 --> 00:43:08,350 Like, this could have been it. 621 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:17,500 I'm lucky I'm here after that. There's no reward big enough to cover that risk. 622 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,800 We did not know nearly as much about head injuries as we do now. 623 00:43:24,300 --> 00:43:28,780 But I can't tell you with certainty that I would have done things different if I 624 00:43:28,780 --> 00:43:29,780 had known that. 625 00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:36,860 I felt like the world had offered me this canvas to create surreal, sublime 626 00:43:36,860 --> 00:43:40,680 performance art. And there were some bumps in the road, but... 627 00:43:40,890 --> 00:43:42,790 It was a pretty magical way to make a living. 628 00:43:43,770 --> 00:43:48,830 On certain nights when things were really good, it was one of the most 629 00:43:48,830 --> 00:43:49,830 feelings in the world. 54158

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