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-TRAVIS: Whoa, what is that?
-BRYANT: Whoa.
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THOMAS:
Whoa! It's raining drones
over here!
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We just had
catastrophic failure.
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That's got to be
the FPV right there.
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-TRAVIS: Yeah, that's got to be.
-ERIK: Gone.
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-TRAVIS: It vanished
behind something.
-ERIK: Yeah.
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There's something there.
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We broke... somewhere.
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We got to figure out
where we broke now.
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-We broke another rod?
-We broke a rod, yeah.
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TRAVIS:
There's something blocking us
in the mesa.
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NARRATOR:
There is a ranch
in Northern Utah.
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It is considered the epicenter
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of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
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animal mutilations,
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bizarre UFO sightings
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and unusual energies that have
proven harmful to humans.
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For 20 years,
the federal government
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tried to find answers
and failed.
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Now a new team
of dedicated scientists,
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researchers and experts
has taken over.
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They are determined to solve
the mystery and reveal...
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...The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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-Did you get your fishing tool?
-Got it.
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-Good deal.
-Got to put it on
and everything.
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THOMAS:
So, this little tool right here
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is what you're hoping
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to grab onto that pipe
and pull it back?
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Yeah, yeah,
it's got a cone shape
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on the inside with threads.
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So, if we can hit the end
of that pipe and thread onto it,
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we'll be able
to pull it out enough
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to where we can get
everything apart
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and get the rods put back
together.
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Okay.
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TRAVIS:
For more than two months now,
we've been
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struggling with an operation
on Skinwalker Ranch
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that should have been
pretty easy to complete.
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The goal is
to drill two boreholes
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up through the sandstone mesa
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where ground-penetrating radar
has detected a huge
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dome-shaped object
that is surrounded
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by several smaller anomalies.
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We need these boreholes
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so that we can insert different
scanning devices in them
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to study,
and hopefully identify,
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what these strange anomalies
could actually be.
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But during this operation,
our team
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from Mark Construction Drilling
has experienced crazy setbacks
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just trying
to get the first hole drilled.
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It's not moving very well.
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TRAVIS: Their equipment
has repeatedly failed
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after making possible contact
with the anomalies.
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And just last week,
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after finally reaching
more than 400 feet in...
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We broke... somewhere.
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TRAVIS:
...their drill rods
mysteriously came apart,
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and one of them broke.
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It's like whatever is in there
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is trying to stop us
from getting this done.
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So, today, Alex Swanson and his
team are using a fishing tool
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to extract the drilling rods
from inside the mesa.
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Hopefully, we can get at least
one of these holes drilled
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before
the weather gets too harsh
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and forces us to postpone our
investigation until next summer.
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Hold that right there, Jared.
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Okay, Jared, push into it.
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We're almost at the rod.
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THOMAS:
If this doesn't work,
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I don't know how we're going
to be able get up in there.
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I really can't get up in there
with the excavator without
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risking a rockslide
coming down on top of me.
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So, this is
a really tense moment for me.
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Hold that.
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I think we're onto it, bud.
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Okay, try and pull back.
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Keep going, keep pulling.
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-We got her.
-THOMAS: You got her?
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We got her.
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-Wow.
-ALEX: We got it!
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THOMAS:
Heck yeah!
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We catch our first big break
of this entire job.
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Although we've encountered
a lot of setbacks and obstacles,
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it looks like
everything's coming together.
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I actually believe now
we're going to be able
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to actually break through
the top of this mesa.
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Fingers crossed,
this is the last time
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-that we have a problem.
-Yeah.
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We certainly don't want
to stop again. That's for sure.
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THOMAS:
What do you got
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-before you break through?
-ALEX: We're thinking probably--
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-About five rods.
-Five rods, we should be out.
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Okay. So another 75 feet,
and we should be out the top.
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-Yup.
-THOMAS: Cool.
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So, how long you thinking
it's gonna take you
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to push through
that last 75 feet then?
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JARED:
Probably, say,
at least five hours.
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give or take,
if not a little longer.
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Well, I guess
we'll get to it, huh?
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-Yup.
-Okay.
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It's been quite the journey.
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TRAVIS:
While the drilling operation
continued
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at the mesa...
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...later that afternoon...
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-Hey, Cam.
-Hey.
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TRAVIS: ...Cameron Fugal arrived
to help us conduct our last,
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and most ambitious,
experiment of the year.
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Well, the lidar trucks
are coming down the road.
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And we also welcomed
a whole team of lidar experts,
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including Pete Kelsey,
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John Brown, Jim Royston
and Sam Deriso.
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ERIK:
Well, before we jump in
to what we're planning on doing,
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this looks like
some serious tech.
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JOHN:
It's pretty serious technology
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when it comes to lidar.
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This one is specifically used
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for long-distance collection.
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ERIK:
Okay.
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And it's incredibly accurate.
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PETE:
I hear you have something
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creative in mind for it.
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We've got a few
creative somethings in mind.
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TRAVIS:
Several weeks ago,
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using a terrestrial
laser scanner,
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Pete Kelsey detected
a massive cone-shaped anomaly.
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It stretched more than
a half a mile from Homestead Two
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over to the east field canyon
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and had a 2,000-foot-high apex
directly above the triangle.
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Other than the mesa,
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these are
the three main hot spots
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where we've experienced
the most phenomena
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on Skinwalker Ranch...
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We have several objects
moving in unison.
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TRAVIS:
...including UAPs...
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What is that signal?
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...energy spikes
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and even possible evidence
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of something that resembles
a traversable wormhole.
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So, our hope is that tonight's
experiment will reveal more data
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on all the anomalies we've seen
in these different locations.
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Maybe it will help us determine
how they might all be connected.
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Once the sun goes down,
we'll start the experiment
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by launching a rocket
in the east field
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to see
if we can stimulate phenomena.
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From there,
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imaging expert John Brown will
drive his mobile lidar vehicle,
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while Cameron Fugal shadows him
in the helicopter.
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They'll move past
the east field, the triangle,
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the mesa drill site
and over to Homestead Two.
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John will be scanning
the entire area
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between the ground
and the helicopter
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for signs of the cone
or any other strange things.
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ERIK:
We're going to have
that lidar truck platform
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running right
under the helicopter.
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Cameron, you're going
to be following along.
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That's going
to give a target, basically.
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TRAVIS:
That's right.
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Sam, you'll be
in the lidar truck
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with one
of the multi-sensor boxes
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-that is data logging.
-Okay. Mm-hmm.
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And Erik, were you going
to put a GPS tracker with him?
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-Yes, I am.
-TRAVIS: Okay.
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TRAVIS:
Cameron will be wearing
night vision goggles,
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which may also enable him
to see aerial phenomena
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that's invisible
to the naked eye.
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Once they reach Homestead Two,
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Thomas Winterton will launch
another rocket
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from the mesa drill site,
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and then, they'll repeat
the scanning process
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back toward the east field.
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Jim, I want you flying
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the lidar path with your drone,
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-and fly the in-and-out path.
-Okay.
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TRAVIS:
To help us gather
even more aerial data,
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Jim Royston will fly
his drone-based lidar device
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between the triangle
and the east field.
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This is where we've detected
mysterious voids in GPS data
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throughout the year.
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And it's also
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where we captured video
back in 2022
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of a UAP entering,
then exiting the mesa
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before flying
right toward the triangle.
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Kaleb, uh, you'll be down
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at the east canyon area
with Dragon.
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Use the handheld lidar scanner,
and I want you
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to paint that whole area, right?
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KALEB:
Yeah, I'm going
to be everywhere with that.
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Thomas, if anything happens
with the drill,
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then I'm not that far away,
either. You can give me a call,
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and I'll come running.
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Because we're still trying
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to break through
the top of the mesa
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to complete our first borehole,
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the drillers are going
to keep on drilling tonight.
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Maybe it'll cause
something strange to happen
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that we'll be able to detect,
and hopefully, identify.
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Then, after that experiment
is done, we're going
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to do an experiment
at the triangle.
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Yeah, let...
let me describe that.
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We're going to have the burner
from a hot-air balloon
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heating up that space
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where we have detected something
at an altitude of about 30 feet.
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And we'll be doing some thermal
and lidar imaging on that.
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It's a pretty interesting area
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in terms
of what we've seen to date.
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TRAVIS:
One of the craziest things
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that we've ever encountered
on the ranch
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was a blob-like anomaly
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that may have actually
destroyed a rocket
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31 feet high
above the triangle in 2022.
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And since then,
Erik has determined
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that he captured video of it
from a second camera,
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confirming
that it was a real phenomenon
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and not some kind
of camera artifact.
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So, we'll be using
a hot-air balloon burner
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to blast flames
into that 31-foot region
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while we scan it
with lidar devices
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and record it with high-speed,
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night vision,
thermal and infrared cameras.
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And all during the experiment,
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we'll be monitoring
numerous spectrum analyzers,
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radiation detectors
and GPS devices
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to collect more data
than we ever have before.
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This place has been
hiding its secrets from us
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for more than five years now.
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But tonight, we intend
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to finally reveal
just what they truly are.
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CAMERON:
So, as serious
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as this is,
this is exciting, too.
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-Oh, it's very exciting.
-Oh, yeah, very.
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And we have a lot of work to do.
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CAMERON: It's a super
science project tonight.
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We have a lot to do.
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Well, guys, I can see
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our shadows are getting
awfully long.
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I think it's time
to get out there,
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get set up and get ready to go.
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Yup. Let's get to work.
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-We got to go.
-ERIK: Okay.
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CAMERON: Okay, we're going
to get airborne.
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TRAVIS: All right,
looks like Cameron's up.
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Sam, do you copy?
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SAM:
Yes, so we have just
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entered the gate. We are ready.
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TRAVIS:
Just after nightfall,
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Cameron Fugal lifted off
in the helicopter
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to get positioned 1,000 feet
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above John Brown's mobile
lidar truck at the eastern gate.
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It was time to start
our ranch-wide experiment.
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THOMAS:
Guys, be advised,
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we're over here
at the drill site.
252
00:11:06,042 --> 00:11:08,708
The rig is running, and
we're monitoring the drilling.
253
00:11:08,875 --> 00:11:10,417
TRAVIS:
Copy that, Thomas.
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00:11:10,583 --> 00:11:12,333
Erik, do you copy?
255
00:11:12,458 --> 00:11:14,833
ERIK:
Yeah, Travis. Go ahead.
256
00:11:15,042 --> 00:11:17,333
TRAVIS: Yeah, I say this is
about our one-minute warning.
257
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We're going to launch a rocket.
258
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Be prepared to look
in that direction.
259
00:11:21,167 --> 00:11:22,875
Copy you.
Thanks for the heads-up, Travis.
260
00:11:23,042 --> 00:11:24,958
TRAVIS:
All right, Dragon.
261
00:11:25,125 --> 00:11:27,667
Good to go whenever,
as long as Kaleb's scanning.
262
00:11:27,833 --> 00:11:28,875
We got our scans going here.
263
00:11:29,042 --> 00:11:31,458
Copy that. We are scanning.
264
00:11:31,625 --> 00:11:33,333
The rocket is hot.
265
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TRAVIS:
As the drilling operation
continued
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and our other team members
prepared to run handheld
267
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and drone-based lidar scans
268
00:11:40,833 --> 00:11:43,708
in the east field
and the triangle areas,
269
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Dragon was ready to launch
a rocket from the east field
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00:11:46,417 --> 00:11:49,000
so we could start
our first mobile lidar run
271
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from the eastern end
of the ranch
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all the way over
to Homestead Two.
273
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Cameron, are you in place?
274
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We're going to go
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in five, four--
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-BRYANT: Three, two.
-Three, two.
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One.
278
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There it goes. Rocket's up.
279
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BRYANT:
We had a good launch,
280
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good chute, and you can
send them on their way.
281
00:12:16,500 --> 00:12:17,958
Tell him let's go, we're good.
282
00:12:27,208 --> 00:12:28,917
TRAVIS:
All right, here they come.
283
00:12:29,125 --> 00:12:31,625
Right after
Dragon launched his rocket,
284
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John Brown began driving
his lidar truck
285
00:12:34,708 --> 00:12:37,000
from east to west
across the ranch
286
00:12:37,208 --> 00:12:39,500
while Cameron was positioned
right above him,
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flying at an altitude
of 1,000 feet.
288
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Keep the lidar going
and go all the way down,
289
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uh, to past the drill rig,
290
00:12:47,875 --> 00:12:50,667
uh, past Homestead Two
and turn around in that field.
291
00:12:50,875 --> 00:12:53,083
Hey, Erik, do you copy?
292
00:12:53,250 --> 00:12:54,917
Are you watching
the lidar truck?
293
00:12:55,083 --> 00:12:56,792
ERIK:
Copy you, I've got eyes on that.
294
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This is a very ambitious
295
00:12:58,958 --> 00:13:02,125
and complicated operation
that we are conducting, so
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00:13:02,333 --> 00:13:03,833
we don't know exactly
what to expect,
297
00:13:04,042 --> 00:13:06,333
but we are very interested
in what we might see.
298
00:13:06,458 --> 00:13:09,000
TRAVIS:
That's the lidar truck
right there.
299
00:13:09,208 --> 00:13:10,958
They're about to come around
the corner up here.
300
00:13:12,083 --> 00:13:13,542
ERIK:
And I am both excited
301
00:13:13,708 --> 00:13:14,917
and perhaps
a little apprehensive
302
00:13:15,125 --> 00:13:17,167
about how the experiment
will play out.
303
00:13:17,375 --> 00:13:19,000
But I'm confident
that there will be
304
00:13:19,167 --> 00:13:20,958
meaningful
scientific deliverables.
305
00:13:21,125 --> 00:13:24,417
Well, that lidar truck's
at the triangle.
306
00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,333
TRAVIS:
All right, Jim!
307
00:13:30,542 --> 00:13:32,500
Drone going up, Pete.
308
00:13:34,375 --> 00:13:36,167
TRAVIS:
After the chopper
and lidar truck
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00:13:36,333 --> 00:13:39,708
passed the triangle, which was
the halfway point in their run,
310
00:13:39,875 --> 00:13:42,625
I had Jim Royston begin
flying his lidar drone
311
00:13:42,750 --> 00:13:45,042
from the triangle
toward the east field.
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ROYSTON:
I'm going northeast.
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TRAVIS: That's where
he previously experienced
314
00:13:51,167 --> 00:13:52,875
mysterious voids
in his GPS data,
315
00:13:53,042 --> 00:13:55,875
as though his drone
momentarily disappeared.
316
00:13:56,875 --> 00:13:59,042
And of course,
it's also the path
317
00:13:59,208 --> 00:14:02,000
where a UAP passed
through the mesa
318
00:14:02,167 --> 00:14:05,917
and flew directly toward
the triangle back in 2022.
319
00:14:08,042 --> 00:14:10,333
SAM:
Tom, this is Sam,
confirm we are clear
320
00:14:10,500 --> 00:14:12,042
to pass by the drill?
321
00:14:12,208 --> 00:14:14,000
THOMAS:
The road is clear,
322
00:14:14,083 --> 00:14:17,000
you are good to go
by the drill site, over.
323
00:14:17,167 --> 00:14:18,958
SAM:
10-4. Thank you.
324
00:14:24,417 --> 00:14:28,417
THOMAS:
This is Thomas. The lidar truck
just passed the drill site.
325
00:14:28,583 --> 00:14:29,875
We're prepping the rocket,
326
00:14:30,042 --> 00:14:32,583
it'll be ready
to go here in a minute.
327
00:14:32,708 --> 00:14:34,833
TRAVIS:
After about 15 minutes,
328
00:14:35,042 --> 00:14:37,375
John and Cameron passed
the mesa drill site
329
00:14:37,542 --> 00:14:41,250
and arrived at Homestead Two
to complete their first run.
330
00:14:41,417 --> 00:14:44,500
We didn't see or detect
anything unusual in the moment
331
00:14:44,708 --> 00:14:46,167
during that first scan.
332
00:14:46,333 --> 00:14:49,083
SAM:
This is Homestead Two
on your left,
333
00:14:49,208 --> 00:14:51,333
the carriage house
on your right.
334
00:14:51,458 --> 00:14:54,750
Be advised, the lidar truck
has passed Homestead Two.
335
00:14:54,875 --> 00:14:56,583
We are turning around.
336
00:14:56,708 --> 00:15:00,083
TRAVIS:
So, as the chopper
and lidar truck prepared
337
00:15:00,250 --> 00:15:02,375
to leave Homestead Two
and head back
338
00:15:02,542 --> 00:15:05,458
to conduct another scan
heading toward the east field,
339
00:15:05,625 --> 00:15:07,875
Thomas Winterton got ready
to launch a rocket
340
00:15:08,042 --> 00:15:09,625
from the mesa drill site
341
00:15:09,792 --> 00:15:13,292
to see if that would change
anything during that return run.
342
00:15:13,458 --> 00:15:15,333
-(alarm sounding)
-The rocket's ready,
343
00:15:15,542 --> 00:15:17,208
lights on, sirens going.
344
00:15:17,375 --> 00:15:18,625
TRAVIS (over radio):
All right, Thomas,
345
00:15:18,792 --> 00:15:20,292
Cameron is clear,
346
00:15:20,417 --> 00:15:22,083
you are good to launch
the rocket whenever.
347
00:15:22,208 --> 00:15:24,583
THOMAS:
Five, four,
348
00:15:24,750 --> 00:15:28,083
three, two, one.
349
00:15:29,667 --> 00:15:31,167
TRAVIS:
Oh, yeah!
350
00:15:46,500 --> 00:15:49,000
TRAVIS (over radio):
Copy that, Sam,
go all the way to the gate
351
00:15:49,125 --> 00:15:50,625
and turn back around.
352
00:15:58,458 --> 00:16:01,083
THOMAS:
Lidar truck just passed
the drill site,
353
00:16:01,250 --> 00:16:03,875
proceeding
to the triangle, over.
354
00:16:04,083 --> 00:16:06,042
TRAVIS:
Copy that, Thomas.
355
00:16:09,958 --> 00:16:11,167
TRAVIS:
Everybody, be advised
356
00:16:11,375 --> 00:16:12,917
that, uh, the lidar truck
357
00:16:13,042 --> 00:16:15,667
is passing through
the triangle right now.
358
00:16:24,083 --> 00:16:26,208
THOMAS:
Just curious,
is the helicopter, uh,
359
00:16:26,417 --> 00:16:29,500
does he think he's directly
over the lidar truck?
360
00:16:29,625 --> 00:16:32,042
'Cause he's directly over
the drill site right now.
361
00:16:32,208 --> 00:16:33,875
TRAVIS:
Yeah, that's
a good question, Thomas.
362
00:16:34,042 --> 00:16:35,833
He's way behind the lidar truck.
363
00:16:35,958 --> 00:16:38,000
I don't know--
something's going on.
364
00:16:38,125 --> 00:16:41,375
Yeah, I can confirm,
that's exactly what I saw here.
365
00:16:52,417 --> 00:16:53,625
Behind them?
366
00:16:53,833 --> 00:16:55,667
(chuckles):
There's no way.
367
00:16:55,875 --> 00:16:59,125
Okay, now this was really odd.
368
00:16:59,208 --> 00:17:02,250
Cameron said,
according to what he was seeing,
369
00:17:02,375 --> 00:17:05,292
he was tracking directly
above the lidar truck
370
00:17:05,417 --> 00:17:08,917
as they headed back east
past the triangle.
371
00:17:09,083 --> 00:17:10,958
But we could all see
the helicopter positioned
372
00:17:11,125 --> 00:17:13,042
way behind the truck
373
00:17:13,208 --> 00:17:15,500
and much closer
to the mesa drill site.
374
00:17:15,583 --> 00:17:19,458
So, were our eyes
being deceived or his?
375
00:17:19,625 --> 00:17:21,500
It made no sense.
376
00:17:21,583 --> 00:17:23,167
ERIK:
Yeah, hey,
just for what it's worth,
377
00:17:23,375 --> 00:17:25,500
I have been tracking you
and the lidar truck,
378
00:17:25,667 --> 00:17:28,167
and there has been
a significant discrepancy
379
00:17:28,333 --> 00:17:30,208
between your reported positions.
380
00:17:30,375 --> 00:17:32,333
TRAVIS: Yeah, Cameron, when
the lidar truck came through
381
00:17:32,417 --> 00:17:34,417
the triangle, you were still
at the drill site.
382
00:17:44,250 --> 00:17:45,917
ERIK: I've been tracking you
and the lidar truck.
383
00:17:46,083 --> 00:17:48,083
There has been
a significant discrepancy
384
00:17:48,250 --> 00:17:50,917
between your reported positions.
385
00:17:51,042 --> 00:17:52,667
CAMERON (over radio):
Oh, my goodness.
386
00:17:52,833 --> 00:17:56,083
TRAVIS: What we were all seeing
with our eyeballs on the ground
387
00:17:56,292 --> 00:17:57,500
was that Cameron's helicopter
388
00:17:57,667 --> 00:17:59,708
was nowhere near
the lidar truck,
389
00:17:59,833 --> 00:18:01,500
even though he was reporting
390
00:18:01,625 --> 00:18:03,792
that the truck
was directly beneath him.
391
00:18:03,958 --> 00:18:07,917
So, something was clearly
causing an optical illusion
392
00:18:08,125 --> 00:18:11,667
for either Cameron,
us or everyone.
393
00:18:22,958 --> 00:18:26,167
THOMAS (over radio):
Yeah, negative, the truck
is still to the east of you.
394
00:18:26,375 --> 00:18:27,833
Uh, you're not over it.
395
00:18:30,958 --> 00:18:32,833
There's no way.
396
00:18:33,042 --> 00:18:34,833
Wow, Cameron,
we can tell you for a fact
397
00:18:34,958 --> 00:18:36,542
that you're really not.
398
00:18:36,708 --> 00:18:38,792
You need to head about 50 yards
directly to the east.
399
00:18:49,500 --> 00:18:51,500
Copy that.
Yep, that's very interesting.
400
00:18:57,208 --> 00:18:58,333
TRAVIS (over radio):
There you go. That's it.
401
00:18:58,542 --> 00:19:01,250
Now you're right over the truck.
402
00:19:01,417 --> 00:19:04,000
It looked like,
for a-a good while there,
403
00:19:04,125 --> 00:19:06,833
that you were way behind
the lidar truck.
404
00:19:07,042 --> 00:19:08,167
If you thought
you were over him,
405
00:19:08,375 --> 00:19:10,833
then there's some kind of
an optical distortion
406
00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,583
that's, uh, happening here.
407
00:19:12,750 --> 00:19:16,208
It took about a minute
for Cameron to get reoriented
408
00:19:16,375 --> 00:19:19,000
and back in the correct position
above the truck
409
00:19:19,125 --> 00:19:21,333
as it headed east
of the triangle.
410
00:19:21,542 --> 00:19:24,708
The question was whether or not
the massive cone-shaped anomaly
411
00:19:24,875 --> 00:19:27,958
that we previously detected
was what caused him to think
412
00:19:28,167 --> 00:19:30,958
he was over the truck
the entire time.
413
00:19:31,125 --> 00:19:35,125
Once we could process our data,
we hoped to find out for sure.
414
00:19:35,250 --> 00:19:37,583
But in the meantime,
we were all on edge
415
00:19:37,750 --> 00:19:40,917
wondering what else
might happen in the moment.
416
00:19:41,083 --> 00:19:43,167
SAM (over radio):
Travis, this is the lidar truck,
417
00:19:43,292 --> 00:19:44,750
we have reached the gate.
418
00:19:44,917 --> 00:19:48,125
Cameron, we've reached
the gate. We're holding.
419
00:19:56,208 --> 00:19:58,083
Yes, copy that, over.
420
00:19:58,250 --> 00:20:00,833
Once they reached the end
of their second run,
421
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,167
the lidar truck and chopper
422
00:20:03,375 --> 00:20:05,417
got back into
their starting position
423
00:20:05,583 --> 00:20:09,000
to make another scan
on the east-to-west route.
424
00:20:09,167 --> 00:20:12,125
And this time,
we had Cameron go up
425
00:20:12,292 --> 00:20:14,458
to an altitude of 2,000 feet
426
00:20:14,583 --> 00:20:17,417
to give the lidar truck
a much higher target to track
427
00:20:17,583 --> 00:20:20,500
and, ultimately,
scan a much larger area.
428
00:20:20,708 --> 00:20:23,125
Especially since
the first time we detected
429
00:20:23,208 --> 00:20:24,917
the cone-shaped anomaly,
430
00:20:25,083 --> 00:20:27,208
it was 2,000 feet high
at its apex
431
00:20:27,375 --> 00:20:29,167
right above the triangle.
432
00:20:29,375 --> 00:20:31,083
You ready, Cameron?
433
00:20:31,250 --> 00:20:35,250
Rocket's gonna be launching
here in a few seconds.
434
00:20:38,792 --> 00:20:41,208
All right, Dragon,
launch the rocket.
435
00:20:41,417 --> 00:20:42,833
BRYANT (over radio):
Copy that.
436
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,875
Five, four,
437
00:20:46,042 --> 00:20:49,208
three, two, one.
438
00:21:01,500 --> 00:21:03,708
Y-You should have been able
to see that, Cameron.
439
00:21:03,917 --> 00:21:05,333
TRAVIS:
Yeah.
440
00:21:07,250 --> 00:21:09,375
TRAVIS:
I don't either, that's weird.
441
00:21:09,583 --> 00:21:11,292
Is it possible that something
442
00:21:11,458 --> 00:21:13,917
was blocking
Cameron's view of the rocket?
443
00:21:14,042 --> 00:21:16,833
Just last week, during
a crazy drone swarm experiment
444
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,583
that we conducted between
the triangle and the east field,
445
00:21:20,750 --> 00:21:24,250
our surveillance cameras
imaged a rocket as it ascended,
446
00:21:24,458 --> 00:21:27,208
but incredibly,
the rocket vanished for a moment
447
00:21:27,375 --> 00:21:29,333
about 100 feet in the air,
448
00:21:29,500 --> 00:21:33,042
and then, suddenly,
it reappeared.
449
00:21:33,250 --> 00:21:36,000
We have no idea
what caused that to happen,
450
00:21:36,208 --> 00:21:38,583
but could it be the same anomaly
451
00:21:38,750 --> 00:21:40,500
that just obstructed
Cameron's view?
452
00:21:40,667 --> 00:21:43,542
If so, as the lidar truck
and helicopter
453
00:21:43,708 --> 00:21:46,167
made their next scan
across the ranch,
454
00:21:46,375 --> 00:21:48,167
we hope to find out.
455
00:21:48,375 --> 00:21:50,500
We've got something
here on Jim's lidar.
456
00:21:50,708 --> 00:21:52,458
What? W-What have we got?
457
00:21:54,333 --> 00:21:55,917
Oh, you do, in the air?
458
00:21:56,042 --> 00:21:59,000
ROYSTON:
That's down at the east,
right over the spire.
459
00:21:59,167 --> 00:22:00,875
TRAVIS:
Holy crap, what is that?
460
00:22:01,042 --> 00:22:04,125
PETE:
I'm going to check
the terrestrial laser scanner.
461
00:22:04,333 --> 00:22:07,667
TRAVIS:
Hey, Dragon, be advised that
on the lidar from Jim's drone,
462
00:22:07,792 --> 00:22:11,292
they did pick up something
in the air over the spire.
463
00:22:11,458 --> 00:22:13,125
BRYANT:
That's good to know.
464
00:22:13,292 --> 00:22:17,292
TRAVIS: In 2021, Pete Kelsey
ran a photogrammetry scan
465
00:22:17,458 --> 00:22:19,333
in the east field and detected
466
00:22:19,500 --> 00:22:22,708
a 300-foot-high,
column-shaped spire,
467
00:22:22,917 --> 00:22:25,500
which is also the area
where Erik has detected
468
00:22:25,708 --> 00:22:29,333
GPS voids in
Jim Royston's drone scans.
469
00:22:29,458 --> 00:22:33,208
It made me wonder
not only if Jim Royston's lidar
470
00:22:33,375 --> 00:22:35,458
had detected
the spire anomaly again,
471
00:22:35,667 --> 00:22:37,750
but also if that
was what had obstructed
472
00:22:37,875 --> 00:22:40,917
Cameron's view of the rocket
from the helicopter.
473
00:22:41,042 --> 00:22:44,625
We've documented countless
phenomena all over the ranch.
474
00:22:44,750 --> 00:22:47,375
But when we start seeing
repeated patterns in the data,
475
00:22:47,542 --> 00:22:50,000
it means we might be
getting closer to figuring out
476
00:22:50,167 --> 00:22:52,292
just what might be causing them.
477
00:22:52,458 --> 00:22:55,500
PETE:
Uh... (chuckles)
478
00:22:55,708 --> 00:22:57,583
Hey, Travis,
have a look at this.
479
00:22:57,708 --> 00:23:00,333
Now, granted,
this is just preview...
480
00:23:00,500 --> 00:23:02,583
-Right. Oh!
-...but once again...
481
00:23:02,750 --> 00:23:04,458
Another vertical feature.
482
00:23:04,625 --> 00:23:06,375
TRAVIS:
I see it.
483
00:23:06,542 --> 00:23:08,333
PETE:
That suggests
we've got another cone.
484
00:23:08,458 --> 00:23:09,958
TRAVIS:
Uh-huh.
485
00:23:10,958 --> 00:23:12,583
It will be interesting
when we post process.
486
00:23:12,792 --> 00:23:14,417
Can't wait to see that
post processed.
487
00:23:14,583 --> 00:23:17,375
I was stunned when Pete
showed me the data
488
00:23:17,542 --> 00:23:20,417
on his terrestrial lidar scanner
of what appeared to be
489
00:23:20,583 --> 00:23:23,917
that 2,000-foot-tall,
cone-shaped anomaly again.
490
00:23:24,042 --> 00:23:25,833
Steve, we're going to start
the burner experiment.
491
00:23:25,917 --> 00:23:27,000
Okay.
492
00:23:27,208 --> 00:23:28,667
TRAVIS: So I immediately asked
493
00:23:28,792 --> 00:23:30,792
hot air balloon pilot
Steve Jones
494
00:23:30,958 --> 00:23:33,875
to get ready to shoot flames
straight up at the triangle
495
00:23:34,042 --> 00:23:35,500
with his propane burner.
496
00:23:35,625 --> 00:23:37,875
All right, so, uh,
we'll run this,
497
00:23:38,042 --> 00:23:39,542
we'll run the thermal.
498
00:23:39,667 --> 00:23:42,417
And, uh, we'll start doing
the fire experiment.
499
00:23:42,542 --> 00:23:45,167
If the cone, which also
covered the triangle,
500
00:23:45,375 --> 00:23:46,583
was showing up again,
501
00:23:46,750 --> 00:23:48,667
I wanted to see
if evidence of the blob
502
00:23:48,875 --> 00:23:51,375
would also appear
at 31 feet in the air.
503
00:23:51,542 --> 00:23:54,417
TRAVIS (over radio):
Hey, Erik, uh, be advised
that we are going to start
504
00:23:54,583 --> 00:23:56,375
the balloon burner experiment.
505
00:23:56,542 --> 00:23:57,750
ERIK: Copy that,
thank you.
506
00:23:57,917 --> 00:24:00,458
I've got assets trained
on the triangle.
507
00:24:00,667 --> 00:24:02,917
TRAVIS: Hey, Dragon,
do you copy?
508
00:24:04,292 --> 00:24:05,417
Yeah, Travis, go ahead.
509
00:24:07,042 --> 00:24:09,625
We're done with
the, uh, rocket launches,
510
00:24:09,792 --> 00:24:11,958
and so if you guys want to come
down here to the triangle
511
00:24:12,083 --> 00:24:14,542
and watch the burner experiments
with us.
512
00:24:15,875 --> 00:24:16,875
Copy that, Travis.
513
00:24:17,042 --> 00:24:18,458
We'll head back that way
514
00:24:18,625 --> 00:24:20,250
and observe
the other experiment.
515
00:24:20,417 --> 00:24:21,667
Copy that.
We'll see you in a bit.
516
00:24:21,833 --> 00:24:24,167
Cameron, on the next run,
517
00:24:24,375 --> 00:24:27,625
uh, you need to go up
to 5,000 feet.
518
00:24:30,208 --> 00:24:33,250
TRAVIS:
Since Cameron's view
may have been obstructed
519
00:24:33,375 --> 00:24:35,708
by something in the air
at 2,000 feet,
520
00:24:35,875 --> 00:24:38,000
I wanted him
to climb up to 5,000 feet,
521
00:24:38,125 --> 00:24:39,583
which should have been
out of the range
522
00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:41,125
of the cone-shaped anomaly.
523
00:24:41,292 --> 00:24:43,042
I really wanted to test
524
00:24:43,208 --> 00:24:45,458
if he would still have
strange optical distortions
525
00:24:45,625 --> 00:24:47,292
at a higher altitude.
526
00:24:47,417 --> 00:24:49,833
-Kaleb, how you doing, man?
-Good.
527
00:24:50,042 --> 00:24:51,792
So, get that SLAM scanner
ready to go
528
00:24:51,958 --> 00:24:53,625
'cause we're gonna
start firing this burner.
529
00:24:53,792 --> 00:24:56,208
Why don't you go ahead
and get in place, Steve?
530
00:24:56,375 --> 00:24:58,167
Taking off.
531
00:24:58,375 --> 00:25:01,500
TRAVIS:
As Steve Jones prepared
to start shooting flames
532
00:25:01,625 --> 00:25:03,500
up above the triangle...
533
00:25:03,583 --> 00:25:06,000
We're running, lidar's running.
534
00:25:06,167 --> 00:25:10,042
...we activated our stationary
and handheld lidar devices.
535
00:25:10,208 --> 00:25:11,708
-I'm live.
-Oh, you're up.
536
00:25:11,875 --> 00:25:15,167
Then, Pete Kelsey got his
thermal camera drone in the air,
537
00:25:15,333 --> 00:25:17,125
and we also started recording
538
00:25:17,250 --> 00:25:19,083
with a FLIR thermal camera
on the ground.
539
00:25:19,250 --> 00:25:21,167
TRAVIS (over radio):
Go ahead and do a run, Sam.
540
00:25:21,375 --> 00:25:24,708
10-4, we're a-going.
541
00:25:24,875 --> 00:25:26,958
TRAVIS: Steve, you copy?
542
00:25:27,042 --> 00:25:28,333
Copy.
543
00:25:28,542 --> 00:25:29,917
TRAVIS:
Are you ready to go?
544
00:25:30,083 --> 00:25:31,833
STEVE (over radio):
Yes, sir.
545
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,333
All right,
we're gonna go in five,
546
00:25:35,542 --> 00:25:40,000
four, three, two, one...
547
00:25:40,208 --> 00:25:42,250
Whoa!
548
00:25:47,167 --> 00:25:51,500
TRAVIS: Three, two, one, stop.
549
00:25:51,708 --> 00:25:53,500
KALEB: That's awesome.
550
00:25:56,042 --> 00:25:58,292
Yeah, make it as hot
as you can make it.
551
00:25:58,458 --> 00:25:59,833
Okay.
552
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,875
TRAVIS:
After seeing new lidar data
553
00:26:02,042 --> 00:26:04,000
of what could be
the massive, cone-shaped anomaly
554
00:26:04,167 --> 00:26:08,000
that was centered nearly 2,000
feet high at the triangle,
555
00:26:08,083 --> 00:26:11,167
we wanted Steve Jones to blast
as much flame as possible
556
00:26:11,375 --> 00:26:13,125
up to the 31-foot mark
557
00:26:13,292 --> 00:26:15,917
to see if we could
also get the blob to reappear.
558
00:26:16,083 --> 00:26:19,625
So, as Steve prepped
an even bigger blast
559
00:26:19,708 --> 00:26:21,417
from the propane burner,
560
00:26:21,542 --> 00:26:23,917
we were scanning
with our lidar devices.
561
00:26:24,083 --> 00:26:27,583
We also were watching our
aerial and ground-based thermal
562
00:26:27,708 --> 00:26:29,833
and night vision cameras
for anything strange
563
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,083
that might be invisible
to the naked eye.
564
00:26:32,208 --> 00:26:34,625
CAMERON (over radio):
So, now, we're going to climb
565
00:26:34,792 --> 00:26:37,833
up to 5,000 feet
above the triangle.
566
00:26:38,042 --> 00:26:39,833
DON (over radio):
10-4, Cameron.
567
00:26:40,042 --> 00:26:41,875
TRAVIS:
And from the helicopter,
nearly a mile high,
568
00:26:42,042 --> 00:26:43,833
Cameron was looking out
for phenomena in the air
569
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,417
with his night vision goggles.
570
00:26:46,583 --> 00:26:49,500
All right,
we're gonna go in five,
571
00:26:49,708 --> 00:26:52,333
four, three,
572
00:26:52,542 --> 00:26:55,083
two, one, go.
573
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:05,958
(static hissing)
574
00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:16,208
Three, two, one, zero, stop.
575
00:27:26,250 --> 00:27:28,042
That's a good copy, yeah.
576
00:27:28,208 --> 00:27:30,542
I like you just
following it, Dragon.
577
00:27:30,708 --> 00:27:33,250
BRYANT:
Okay. I can do that.
578
00:27:33,375 --> 00:27:36,167
Five, four, three,
579
00:27:36,333 --> 00:27:39,250
two, one, go.
580
00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:44,625
(static hissing)
581
00:27:48,833 --> 00:27:52,625
TRAVIS:
Three, two, one, stop.
582
00:28:04,917 --> 00:28:08,042
How can fire cause static
on the radio? That's crazy.
583
00:28:08,167 --> 00:28:09,875
There was nothing
in the mechanics
584
00:28:10,042 --> 00:28:11,417
of the balloon thruster
585
00:28:11,625 --> 00:28:14,792
that could have caused
Cameron's communications system
586
00:28:14,958 --> 00:28:17,708
to suddenly experience
a bunch of static.
587
00:28:17,875 --> 00:28:19,125
But in recent years,
588
00:28:19,292 --> 00:28:21,833
we've detected
strange energy spikes
589
00:28:21,917 --> 00:28:25,375
right around 5,000 feet
directly above the triangle.
590
00:28:25,542 --> 00:28:27,833
And we've also seen a number
of different anomalies there
591
00:28:28,042 --> 00:28:30,750
between that altitude
and the ground.
592
00:28:30,917 --> 00:28:32,375
Go.
593
00:28:32,542 --> 00:28:35,583
It made me wonder if the flames
that were directly hitting
594
00:28:35,708 --> 00:28:38,292
the 31-foot blob zone
at the triangle
595
00:28:38,417 --> 00:28:40,417
were somehow
triggering more phenomena
596
00:28:40,542 --> 00:28:43,000
that was affecting
the helicopter.
597
00:28:43,208 --> 00:28:45,000
So, we needed Steve Jones
to shoot more flames
598
00:28:45,167 --> 00:28:47,167
to see if it would
keep happening
599
00:28:47,333 --> 00:28:49,417
or possibly stimulate
something even stranger.
600
00:28:49,625 --> 00:28:51,083
Stop.
601
00:28:55,917 --> 00:28:57,667
-KALEB: Whoa, what was that?
-BOBBY: I don't know,
602
00:28:57,833 --> 00:28:59,833
something just went right
across the mesa like that.
603
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,833
-Yeah.
-It looked like it was
right in front of the...
604
00:29:01,958 --> 00:29:03,833
-Like a band just went across.
-Yeah.
605
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,333
KALEB: I'm looking at
this monitor and I see
606
00:29:06,542 --> 00:29:08,875
almost like a-a fog
607
00:29:09,042 --> 00:29:12,375
or a field of some kind
moving across the mesa
608
00:29:12,542 --> 00:29:14,292
and we don't know what it is.
609
00:29:14,458 --> 00:29:17,417
Hopefully, Erik caught some
more video footage of it
610
00:29:17,542 --> 00:29:19,083
in his cameras
611
00:29:19,250 --> 00:29:22,375
and we can figure out
exactly what that is.
612
00:29:22,542 --> 00:29:25,417
TRAVIS (over radio):
Hey, Steve, we're gonna do
one more burn.
613
00:29:25,583 --> 00:29:26,833
STEVE:
Copy that.
614
00:29:27,042 --> 00:29:30,667
Three, two, one, go.
615
00:29:30,875 --> 00:29:31,833
KALEB:
Right there,
it just did it again.
616
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,667
ROYSTON:
I saw it again.
617
00:29:33,833 --> 00:29:36,667
(burner whooshing)
618
00:29:36,833 --> 00:29:39,833
TRAVIS:
Two, one, stop.
619
00:29:39,958 --> 00:29:42,042
Looks like a smoke ring,
like a donut.
620
00:29:42,208 --> 00:29:46,167
It looked like it was going
along the side of something.
621
00:29:47,208 --> 00:29:49,750
Yeah, there was that little
section right there on the edge.
622
00:29:49,875 --> 00:29:51,958
And it looked like
it hit something and, like...
623
00:29:52,125 --> 00:29:54,500
-BOBBY: And it went around it.
-KALEB: Yeah.
624
00:29:54,583 --> 00:29:57,708
Kaleb, did you say you saw
something in the scanner?
625
00:29:57,875 --> 00:30:00,667
Well, so, a couple things.
626
00:30:00,875 --> 00:30:04,667
When, uh, Steve was making
the flare go...
627
00:30:04,875 --> 00:30:06,500
-Mm-hmm.
-...it looked like there was,
628
00:30:06,708 --> 00:30:08,458
like, a circle
that kind of went around.
629
00:30:08,583 --> 00:30:11,000
And it almost like it followed
the edge of a bowl.
630
00:30:11,167 --> 00:30:12,167
Oh, wow.
631
00:30:12,375 --> 00:30:15,333
And Pete had
the drone come back out
632
00:30:15,542 --> 00:30:17,167
and we saw two different things
633
00:30:17,375 --> 00:30:19,792
look like they went
across the screen.
634
00:30:19,958 --> 00:30:22,000
But they, almost like
they were distorted.
635
00:30:22,125 --> 00:30:23,750
-All right.
-So...
636
00:30:23,917 --> 00:30:24,625
We'll absolutely look at that.
That's awesome.
637
00:30:24,792 --> 00:30:26,625
It was odd that the flames
638
00:30:26,792 --> 00:30:28,208
might've possibly affected
639
00:30:28,375 --> 00:30:30,583
Cameron's comms system
in the helicopter
640
00:30:30,750 --> 00:30:33,833
nearly 5,000 feet
above the triangle.
641
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,542
But when the guys
saw a distorted shadow
642
00:30:36,708 --> 00:30:40,167
move across the face of the mesa
on Pete's thermal camera screen,
643
00:30:40,333 --> 00:30:43,167
and then the flames
appeared to wrap around
644
00:30:43,333 --> 00:30:47,083
an invisible object right
at the 31-foot blob level,
645
00:30:47,250 --> 00:30:49,667
it seemed like we were
definitely getting responses
646
00:30:49,875 --> 00:30:51,208
from something on the ranch.
647
00:30:51,375 --> 00:30:54,125
The question was,
just what could it be?
648
00:30:54,208 --> 00:30:57,000
We reset everything
on the SLAM scanner
649
00:30:57,167 --> 00:31:00,167
and so the next experiment,
we'll... I'll try and scan again
650
00:31:00,333 --> 00:31:02,000
and I'm gonna try
and do that same pattern
651
00:31:02,167 --> 00:31:04,542
-around the triangle, so...
-Okay.
652
00:31:19,583 --> 00:31:22,125
-Isn't that bizarre?
-Yeah.
653
00:31:56,083 --> 00:31:58,583
CAMERON: We had a couple
of small objects fly by.
654
00:31:58,708 --> 00:32:02,875
But we are at about 10,000 feet
above sea level.
655
00:32:06,667 --> 00:32:10,958
Okay, just confirming,
you did see two smaller orbs.
656
00:32:11,167 --> 00:32:12,500
Yes!
657
00:32:12,667 --> 00:32:14,542
All right.
658
00:32:18,542 --> 00:32:21,792
-That's awesome.
-Okay, Travis says it's awesome.
659
00:32:21,958 --> 00:32:23,667
And I bet you
Erik will be looking forward
660
00:32:23,875 --> 00:32:25,583
to seeing that data, Cameron.
661
00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:28,583
TRAVIS: None of us could
see any signs of the UAPs
662
00:32:28,708 --> 00:32:31,917
that Cameron-- who was wearing
night vision goggles--
663
00:32:32,042 --> 00:32:33,792
was reporting flying all around
664
00:32:33,917 --> 00:32:36,125
the helicopter nearly 5,000 feet
665
00:32:36,333 --> 00:32:38,083
directly above the triangle.
666
00:32:38,292 --> 00:32:40,458
But from the tone in his voice,
667
00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:41,958
we could all tell he was
668
00:32:42,125 --> 00:32:43,333
definitely seeing something
669
00:32:43,542 --> 00:32:45,625
that had
no conventional explanation.
670
00:32:45,708 --> 00:32:47,958
So three different anomalies
671
00:32:48,083 --> 00:32:50,167
that, uh,
Cameron caught at that...
672
00:32:50,333 --> 00:32:52,833
-elevation.
-Well, he was directly overhead
over the triangle
673
00:32:53,042 --> 00:32:54,583
when-when I heard him call you.
674
00:32:54,750 --> 00:32:55,875
So that's-that's where it was.
675
00:32:56,042 --> 00:32:57,250
-That's great.
-And we got
676
00:32:57,417 --> 00:32:59,167
that whole array of cameras
on the bottom
677
00:32:59,333 --> 00:33:01,333
of the helicopter now, so
who knows what he couldn't see
678
00:33:01,417 --> 00:33:03,333
-that we might have
captured on those cameras.
-That's right.
679
00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:06,083
Maybe it's just like before
when he said
680
00:33:06,250 --> 00:33:08,167
-he saw all those orbs up there.
-DON: Yeah.
681
00:33:08,333 --> 00:33:11,208
TRAVIS:
Back in 2022...
682
00:33:14,875 --> 00:33:17,583
...as Cameron was conducting
an aerial experiment with Erik,
683
00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:19,333
Brandon and Kaleb,
684
00:33:19,542 --> 00:33:22,375
he also reported seeing,
in the night vision goggles,
685
00:33:22,542 --> 00:33:25,333
a bunch of UAPs
zipping by the helicopter.
686
00:33:30,792 --> 00:33:33,292
TRAVIS: And that was
the same exact night that one
687
00:33:33,458 --> 00:33:35,417
of the specialty cameras
mounted on the chopper
688
00:33:35,583 --> 00:33:38,542
caught a UAP flying
through the mesa,
689
00:33:38,708 --> 00:33:41,375
and then heading straight
toward the triangle.
690
00:33:41,542 --> 00:33:44,000
Kaleb, do you think
that was happening
691
00:33:44,167 --> 00:33:46,042
at the same time
when Cameron seen
692
00:33:46,208 --> 00:33:48,292
those, uh, smaller orbs,
693
00:33:48,458 --> 00:33:50,333
or that, uh, strobe of light?
694
00:33:50,542 --> 00:33:52,500
Yeah, they were definitely
within the same window
695
00:33:52,708 --> 00:33:53,833
of time for sure. Yeah.
696
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,708
Hmm.
697
00:33:55,875 --> 00:33:58,375
TRAVIS: It's hard to know
if those UAPs were related
698
00:33:58,542 --> 00:34:00,875
to the static
Cameron had on his comms
699
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,542
or the shadow
that moved across the mesa
700
00:34:03,708 --> 00:34:05,542
and the possible blob activity
701
00:34:05,708 --> 00:34:08,333
that were both captured
by our lidar devices.
702
00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:09,583
But Don was right.
703
00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:12,667
These events all happened
at roughly the same time
704
00:34:12,792 --> 00:34:15,875
when we were shooting
the flames up at the triangle.
705
00:34:16,083 --> 00:34:18,500
So who knows
what we'll see once we review
706
00:34:18,667 --> 00:34:20,500
the video
from our specialty cameras
707
00:34:20,667 --> 00:34:23,167
and crunch all the data
that we've collected tonight.
708
00:34:23,333 --> 00:34:24,333
I mean,
he was directly overhead.
709
00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:26,000
-And very, very high.
-Yeah.
710
00:34:26,167 --> 00:34:28,083
At 5,000 feet above
where we're standing now.
711
00:34:28,250 --> 00:34:29,542
Yeah, absolutely.
712
00:34:30,875 --> 00:34:32,458
THOMAS:
Hey, guys, you guys got a copy?
713
00:34:32,625 --> 00:34:34,500
TRAVIS:
Yeah, go ahead, Thomas.
714
00:34:34,708 --> 00:34:36,333
The ground's moving.
715
00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:37,958
We are minutes
716
00:34:38,083 --> 00:34:39,333
from breaking
through the surface.
717
00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:41,000
Do you guys want
to head over this way
718
00:34:41,208 --> 00:34:43,000
and watch
the drill bit break through?
719
00:34:43,208 --> 00:34:44,625
TRAVIS:
Copy that.
720
00:34:44,750 --> 00:34:46,333
Dragon, Don and me are gonna
721
00:34:46,500 --> 00:34:49,083
stay down here and keep
an eye on all the equipment.
722
00:34:49,292 --> 00:34:51,167
But Kaleb's gonna
head back to the helipad
723
00:34:51,375 --> 00:34:53,833
so Cameron can give him
and Erik a lift.
724
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,083
They'll be there in a minute.
725
00:34:56,208 --> 00:34:57,667
Uh, we'll wait for you.
726
00:34:57,833 --> 00:34:59,125
And, uh...
727
00:34:59,292 --> 00:35:00,708
should be any minute.
728
00:35:09,875 --> 00:35:12,833
ERIK: Cameron is coming
to transport Kaleb and myself
729
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,083
to the top of the mesa so that
we can witness and measure
730
00:35:16,250 --> 00:35:18,083
what happens
when that drill head erupts
731
00:35:18,250 --> 00:35:19,833
from the top of the mesa.
732
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,833
It's a very important moment
733
00:35:21,958 --> 00:35:24,292
in our investigation
this summer.
734
00:35:24,500 --> 00:35:27,583
I know that everyone is anxious
to get news of that success.
735
00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:29,333
Okay.
736
00:35:33,708 --> 00:35:34,958
Yeah, he's airborne.
737
00:35:35,167 --> 00:35:37,083
I can hear it.
738
00:35:39,625 --> 00:35:41,000
THOMAS:
I'm really excited
739
00:35:41,208 --> 00:35:43,167
because we've been trying
to find out
740
00:35:43,292 --> 00:35:44,667
what's in this mesa
741
00:35:44,875 --> 00:35:46,167
now for several years.
742
00:35:46,292 --> 00:35:48,208
And right now we're literally
743
00:35:48,375 --> 00:35:50,167
sitting inches away from
744
00:35:50,292 --> 00:35:51,792
what could be
some of the biggest answers
745
00:35:51,917 --> 00:35:54,250
that we've ever gotten here
on Skinwalker Ranch.
746
00:35:58,042 --> 00:36:00,000
THOMAS:
It's gonna pop up over the mesa.
747
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,167
We've been out here drilling
for the longest time.
748
00:36:04,375 --> 00:36:07,625
We've faced tons of obstacles
749
00:36:07,792 --> 00:36:09,750
and tons of delays.
750
00:36:09,875 --> 00:36:11,917
So it's fitting
751
00:36:12,042 --> 00:36:13,667
that we're gonna finally
752
00:36:13,875 --> 00:36:16,500
punch through the top
of the mesa the same time
753
00:36:16,667 --> 00:36:18,542
that we're doing
our final experiment.
754
00:36:19,875 --> 00:36:21,375
-Hey, guys.
-Hey there.
755
00:36:21,542 --> 00:36:22,708
Exciting day.
756
00:36:22,875 --> 00:36:24,667
Looks like
we're gonna get through.
757
00:36:24,875 --> 00:36:26,000
Yeah.
758
00:36:26,125 --> 00:36:27,333
So, Alex, you want to show them
759
00:36:27,542 --> 00:36:29,250
right where you think
it's gonna come out?
760
00:36:29,375 --> 00:36:31,042
Yeah. I mean, we saw
these cracks starting
761
00:36:31,208 --> 00:36:32,750
to happen, and the ground
was starting to heave
762
00:36:32,917 --> 00:36:35,125
right here, so I'm guessing
somewhere in this area
763
00:36:35,292 --> 00:36:37,458
-right here.
-Oh, wow.
764
00:36:37,625 --> 00:36:40,042
THOMAS:
Oh, there's water.
765
00:36:40,208 --> 00:36:42,167
Well, go ahead
and keep drilling her, bud.
766
00:36:46,042 --> 00:36:47,833
Oh, check that out.
767
00:36:57,667 --> 00:36:59,083
ALEX (over radio):
She's coming out right now.
768
00:36:59,292 --> 00:37:00,292
You can go ahead
and just push it.
769
00:37:01,792 --> 00:37:03,375
Oh, check that out.
770
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,542
ERIK:
Travis?
771
00:37:13,708 --> 00:37:14,875
Be advised,
772
00:37:15,042 --> 00:37:16,500
we have broken through.
773
00:37:16,667 --> 00:37:18,083
(whoops)
774
00:37:18,208 --> 00:37:20,000
All right, how about that?
775
00:37:20,208 --> 00:37:21,708
Hey! Finally.
776
00:37:21,875 --> 00:37:24,333
Hey, congratulations!
777
00:37:24,458 --> 00:37:27,792
Sounds like Travis is
a little bit excited.
778
00:37:27,958 --> 00:37:29,625
So, uh, Travis, there's a lot
779
00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:31,333
of work ahead of us
once we reem this thing out.
780
00:37:31,542 --> 00:37:35,375
Looks like we have got
a perfect asset
781
00:37:35,542 --> 00:37:39,208
for studying what's
going on inside of this mesa.
782
00:37:39,375 --> 00:37:40,958
TRAVIS: You know,
you're absolutely right.
783
00:37:41,167 --> 00:37:44,958
After all the insane setbacks
that this operation encountered
784
00:37:45,167 --> 00:37:47,292
over the past several months,
785
00:37:47,458 --> 00:37:49,292
I could hardly believe it
when the guys radioed
786
00:37:49,458 --> 00:37:52,000
to me that we finally got
one of our boreholes
787
00:37:52,208 --> 00:37:54,250
completed up through the mesa.
788
00:37:54,375 --> 00:37:56,625
And for it to happen
in the midst of everything else
789
00:37:56,833 --> 00:37:59,792
that went down tonight
was like icing on the cake.
790
00:37:59,917 --> 00:38:02,375
I'd say this was one of the best
experiments we've ever had
791
00:38:02,583 --> 00:38:06,167
during our investigation
here on Skinwalker Ranch.
792
00:38:06,375 --> 00:38:08,333
I think it's a,
a victory right there.
793
00:38:08,542 --> 00:38:11,333
We've been trying to get
through that mesa for months.
794
00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:12,833
Uh, I think
it's pretty exciting.
795
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,167
ERIK:
Hell yeah.
796
00:38:14,375 --> 00:38:16,542
TRAVIS:
Now we can actually do, uh,
797
00:38:16,708 --> 00:38:19,750
a GPR through that,
uh, casing and
798
00:38:19,917 --> 00:38:22,542
do, uh, basically,
RF tomography
799
00:38:22,667 --> 00:38:25,667
of whatever
the anomaly inside there is.
800
00:38:25,792 --> 00:38:27,458
-That's the name of the game.
-Yeah.
801
00:38:27,625 --> 00:38:30,542
THOMAS: Well, I think we've done
everything we can do tonight.
802
00:38:30,708 --> 00:38:33,292
I think we head down,
meet up with the guys down
803
00:38:33,417 --> 00:38:35,500
at the triangle and, uh...
804
00:38:35,625 --> 00:38:37,542
-get off the hill.
-Yeah.
805
00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:39,542
All right,
let's get out of here.
806
00:38:40,542 --> 00:38:42,042
THOMAS:
Seeing that six-inch
807
00:38:42,208 --> 00:38:44,000
bit pop through the top
808
00:38:44,125 --> 00:38:45,917
just felt like such a victory.
809
00:38:46,042 --> 00:38:48,500
And, uh, we're gonna take
that victory lap.
810
00:38:48,625 --> 00:38:50,125
We're gonna enjoy it.
811
00:38:50,250 --> 00:38:52,250
And we're gonna come back
next year.
812
00:38:52,458 --> 00:38:54,500
We will get our 18-inch hole
813
00:38:54,708 --> 00:38:56,833
from top to bottom,
because we're not gonna stop
814
00:38:57,042 --> 00:38:59,542
until we figure out
what's inside this mesa.
815
00:39:00,792 --> 00:39:03,417
Well, uh, I guess
first of all, tell us about
816
00:39:03,583 --> 00:39:05,500
the drill getting
through the mesa.
817
00:39:05,667 --> 00:39:07,542
We were almost
exactly on our target,
818
00:39:07,708 --> 00:39:08,958
-we were just a bit
to the west...
-THOMAS: Yeah.
819
00:39:09,167 --> 00:39:10,500
...of the spot
we were shooting for.
820
00:39:10,667 --> 00:39:13,000
But, as far as north to south,
821
00:39:13,208 --> 00:39:15,333
we are almost spot-on.
822
00:39:15,417 --> 00:39:17,792
Yeah. So that, you know,
so that still keeps us clear
823
00:39:17,958 --> 00:39:20,917
of the anomaly,
according to Jan's data.
824
00:39:21,083 --> 00:39:23,375
TRAVIS: So, once they reem it,
then we should be able
825
00:39:23,542 --> 00:39:25,875
to get his ground-penetrating
radar through there, right?
826
00:39:26,042 --> 00:39:27,333
-ERIK: Oh, I think so.
-Yeah.
827
00:39:27,542 --> 00:39:29,000
ERIK:
I think we've accomplished
828
00:39:29,167 --> 00:39:33,333
just about every single one
of our objectives tonight.
829
00:39:33,542 --> 00:39:35,625
-Correct.
-TRAVIS: We did get
a lot of data.
830
00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:38,500
In fact,
what we've done tonight has
831
00:39:38,708 --> 00:39:42,500
probably generated more data
than any other data collection
832
00:39:42,708 --> 00:39:44,917
exercise that we've done
in a single evening.
833
00:39:45,083 --> 00:39:46,833
Dude, you're right.
834
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,792
We've got more data points
to go through right now
835
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,667
than we've had probably
in the entire summation
836
00:39:52,875 --> 00:39:54,792
of the five years
that I've been here.
837
00:39:54,958 --> 00:39:56,875
That's daunting
to even think about.
838
00:39:57,042 --> 00:39:59,458
That's an insurmountable task,
but hey, look, you know,
839
00:39:59,625 --> 00:40:02,167
it's late, we still got
to break down and put stuff up.
840
00:40:02,333 --> 00:40:05,500
So I say we divide and conquer
and let's get out of here.
841
00:40:05,708 --> 00:40:07,625
-Feels like it's
almost time to get up.
-Yeah, it is.
842
00:40:09,625 --> 00:40:11,292
TRAVIS:
We've run experiments before
843
00:40:11,417 --> 00:40:13,167
where it seemed
like nothing strange happened
844
00:40:13,333 --> 00:40:14,708
until we reviewed the data.
845
00:40:14,833 --> 00:40:16,833
Well, tonight, we all witnessed
846
00:40:16,958 --> 00:40:20,500
different things with each step
of our ranch-wide experiment
847
00:40:20,708 --> 00:40:22,167
that were
completely unbelievable.
848
00:40:22,375 --> 00:40:24,583
So I can't wait
to go through everything
849
00:40:24,708 --> 00:40:27,667
that we captured on
all of our devices and cameras.
850
00:40:27,875 --> 00:40:29,125
Who knows?
851
00:40:29,292 --> 00:40:31,333
The answer
to what is truly behind
852
00:40:31,542 --> 00:40:34,417
all this crazy phenomena
here on Skinwalker Ranch
853
00:40:34,542 --> 00:40:36,917
just might be revealed
in tonight's data.
854
00:40:38,708 --> 00:40:40,458
ERIK: We often say
that we're lead by the data.
855
00:40:41,708 --> 00:40:43,667
But what are we to do
when the data lead
856
00:40:43,875 --> 00:40:45,708
in so many different directions?
857
00:40:46,750 --> 00:40:49,750
We find ourselves refining
not just what we know,
858
00:40:49,917 --> 00:40:53,000
but how we think about
the things that we're seeing.
859
00:40:53,167 --> 00:40:55,667
I didn't come here only to revel
in the mysteries
860
00:40:55,875 --> 00:40:57,250
and to marvel
at how strange things
861
00:40:57,458 --> 00:40:59,333
can sometimes be out here.
862
00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:00,875
I came for answers.
863
00:41:01,042 --> 00:41:04,333
So our search
for a unifying explanation
864
00:41:04,542 --> 00:41:06,833
will continue.
865
00:41:08,458 --> 00:41:10,208
BRANDON: The mesa has been
holding mysteries
866
00:41:10,375 --> 00:41:12,667
for thousands of years.
867
00:41:13,708 --> 00:41:17,208
We can only guess
what will be uncovered,
868
00:41:17,375 --> 00:41:19,167
as we now have access
869
00:41:19,375 --> 00:41:22,333
for the first time
to deploy technology,
870
00:41:22,542 --> 00:41:25,250
sensors, and personnel
871
00:41:25,375 --> 00:41:27,917
in service to exploring...
872
00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:31,583
...really what lies beneath.
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