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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,379 --> 00:00:06,793 BRYANT: Boy, that thing sounds like it's hitting 2 00:00:06,793 --> 00:00:08,275 -something hard. -AARON: It could be... 3 00:00:08,275 --> 00:00:10,586 maybe a dome. 4 00:00:10,655 --> 00:00:13,000 There is something in the mesa right there. 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,793 Whatever this is is as tall as the mesa. 6 00:00:15,793 --> 00:00:17,379 THOMAS: Whoa. What was that 7 00:00:17,379 --> 00:00:18,379 purple light over there? 8 00:00:18,448 --> 00:00:20,000 I'm gonna head down. 9 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,482 We need to know if this is 10 00:00:21,551 --> 00:00:23,275 -a reaction to that rocket. -What is that? 11 00:00:23,344 --> 00:00:26,689 Holy crap, it looks like it's following Thomas. 12 00:00:26,758 --> 00:00:28,896 -KALEB: Looks like a deer. -THOMAS: Look at this. 13 00:00:28,896 --> 00:00:31,275 What the heck would have burned this post? 14 00:00:31,275 --> 00:00:33,379 You know what it looks like? Like something just flew 15 00:00:33,379 --> 00:00:35,379 right through it. 16 00:00:36,206 --> 00:00:39,896 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 17 00:00:39,965 --> 00:00:42,379 It is considered the epicenter 18 00:00:42,379 --> 00:00:47,172 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 19 00:00:47,172 --> 00:00:49,586 animal mutilations, 20 00:00:49,586 --> 00:00:51,896 bizarre UFO sightings 21 00:00:51,896 --> 00:00:57,068 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 22 00:00:57,068 --> 00:00:59,586 For 20 years, the federal government 23 00:00:59,655 --> 00:01:03,000 tried to find answers and failed. 24 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,172 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 25 00:01:07,241 --> 00:01:11,000 researchers and experts has taken over. 26 00:01:11,034 --> 00:01:15,241 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 27 00:01:17,379 --> 00:01:21,068 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 28 00:01:26,586 --> 00:01:28,586 When was the last time 29 00:01:28,586 --> 00:01:30,172 you were at the ranch, Jay? 30 00:01:30,172 --> 00:01:33,586 -Uh, about 11 years ago. -11 years ago. 31 00:01:33,586 --> 00:01:35,482 A lot's changed in 11 years. 32 00:01:35,551 --> 00:01:36,965 I bet a lot has changed. 33 00:01:37,896 --> 00:01:40,586 Over the past couple of months our team 34 00:01:40,655 --> 00:01:43,000 has experienced more unexplainable phenomena 35 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,000 on Skinwalker Ranch than ever before. 36 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,379 So, while we're working out a new strategy 37 00:01:47,379 --> 00:01:50,758 to determine just what the two possibly metallic, 38 00:01:50,827 --> 00:01:52,586 dome-shaped and vertical anomalies 39 00:01:52,655 --> 00:01:54,379 we've discovered inside the mesa are, 40 00:01:54,379 --> 00:01:58,379 I've decided it's time to invite a colleague of mine here 41 00:01:58,379 --> 00:02:00,172 who has his own incredible history with the ranch-- 42 00:02:00,172 --> 00:02:02,068 Jay Stratton. 43 00:02:02,896 --> 00:02:04,896 The first time you came out here, 44 00:02:04,965 --> 00:02:07,793 you were probably pretty skeptical, as I was. 45 00:02:07,793 --> 00:02:09,896 -I was 100% skeptical. -Me, too, man. 46 00:02:09,896 --> 00:02:11,275 I didn't believe none of it. 47 00:02:11,275 --> 00:02:12,896 Jay was not only 48 00:02:12,896 --> 00:02:14,275 a career defense intelligence official 49 00:02:14,275 --> 00:02:15,896 for the federal government, 50 00:02:15,965 --> 00:02:18,586 but he was also my former boss 51 00:02:18,586 --> 00:02:21,172 in the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force. 52 00:02:21,241 --> 00:02:26,758 And, between 2007 and 2011, he helped create and run 53 00:02:26,827 --> 00:02:28,758 a government program 54 00:02:28,827 --> 00:02:30,896 with former Skinwalker Ranch owner Robert Bigelow 55 00:02:30,896 --> 00:02:33,275 to investigate the bizarre phenomena 56 00:02:33,275 --> 00:02:35,344 happening on the property. 57 00:02:36,068 --> 00:02:38,275 JAY: So I came out 100% skeptical, 58 00:02:38,275 --> 00:02:40,103 with the stories in mind, 59 00:02:40,103 --> 00:02:43,172 but-but wanting to see something for myself, 60 00:02:43,172 --> 00:02:46,068 and the ranch didn't disappoint. 61 00:02:46,068 --> 00:02:47,275 Right. 62 00:02:47,275 --> 00:02:48,379 JAY: I started working 63 00:02:48,379 --> 00:02:50,275 this topic in 2005. 64 00:02:50,275 --> 00:02:53,275 And I came into the topic because it was part of my job. 65 00:02:55,172 --> 00:02:57,103 As the Chief of Air and Space Warfare 66 00:02:57,103 --> 00:02:58,793 at the Defense Intelligence Agency, 67 00:02:58,793 --> 00:03:01,482 I was dealing with threats to U.S. platforms 68 00:03:01,551 --> 00:03:04,448 from foreign adversaries, highly technical capabilities. 69 00:03:05,793 --> 00:03:09,482 I fell into a point where I had to get really smart on UFOs, 70 00:03:09,551 --> 00:03:11,896 and there was nobody to turn to. 71 00:03:11,896 --> 00:03:14,482 So I kind of became that guy, 72 00:03:14,482 --> 00:03:17,758 not by design, not-not something I was looking for. 73 00:03:18,689 --> 00:03:20,896 I've briefed and provided written assessments 74 00:03:20,965 --> 00:03:22,689 all the way to the highest levels 75 00:03:22,689 --> 00:03:24,758 of the executive branch and the legislative branch. 76 00:03:24,758 --> 00:03:26,586 I like to think I've got a little bit 77 00:03:26,655 --> 00:03:28,448 of credibility on this topic. 78 00:03:29,310 --> 00:03:32,068 2007, we built this contractual relationship 79 00:03:32,137 --> 00:03:34,172 with Mr. Robert Bigelow, 80 00:03:34,172 --> 00:03:36,068 and the ranch became a contracted 81 00:03:36,068 --> 00:03:38,758 Defense Intelligence Agency observation point. 82 00:03:39,689 --> 00:03:43,172 And I came out here to see things firsthand in 2009. 83 00:03:45,103 --> 00:03:49,344 Over those years, I've seen a lot of things I can't explain. 84 00:03:50,310 --> 00:03:52,482 And I'm out here again to do this research 85 00:03:52,482 --> 00:03:55,862 and hopefully better understand this phenomena. 86 00:03:57,896 --> 00:04:00,379 It did take a lot of thought 87 00:04:00,379 --> 00:04:02,172 and discussion with the family 88 00:04:02,172 --> 00:04:03,586 if I would do this again, 89 00:04:03,586 --> 00:04:06,379 just because of all the activity 90 00:04:06,379 --> 00:04:08,172 and everything else that's out here, you know? 91 00:04:08,241 --> 00:04:09,689 -Right. -There's-there's a risk, 92 00:04:09,758 --> 00:04:11,068 but to me 93 00:04:11,068 --> 00:04:12,758 the investigation is more important 94 00:04:12,758 --> 00:04:15,000 and too important, so I really want to 95 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,275 continue down that path of trying to get answers. 96 00:04:17,275 --> 00:04:19,896 There is an accepted risk in coming out here. 97 00:04:19,896 --> 00:04:22,000 You know, no one knows what could happen. 98 00:04:22,034 --> 00:04:23,586 TRAVIS: We're about to move into 99 00:04:23,586 --> 00:04:25,000 -the ranch property here. -JAY: All right. 100 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,068 This sounds crazy, but the ranch 101 00:04:27,068 --> 00:04:29,482 reacts differently to me than it does others. 102 00:04:29,482 --> 00:04:32,103 Some people have a lot of reaction out here 103 00:04:32,103 --> 00:04:33,482 and some have none. 104 00:04:33,551 --> 00:04:35,172 I really had to consider that 105 00:04:35,172 --> 00:04:37,172 and talk to my wife and talk to my kids. 106 00:04:37,172 --> 00:04:38,793 You know, I feel the same. 107 00:04:38,793 --> 00:04:40,379 I think that there's a moral imperative to this. 108 00:04:40,379 --> 00:04:41,586 I think this is 109 00:04:41,586 --> 00:04:43,000 extremely important and could be 110 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,758 one of the most important things 111 00:04:44,758 --> 00:04:46,275 in human history. 112 00:04:46,275 --> 00:04:48,172 Absolutely. 113 00:04:48,241 --> 00:04:51,586 The ranch itself has been a big part of my life. 114 00:04:51,586 --> 00:04:54,689 It's because of the ranch that Travis and I came together 115 00:04:54,689 --> 00:04:58,000 in a small room in the Pentagon to talk about the phenomenon, 116 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,758 and we really accomplished a lot in a short period of time. 117 00:05:01,827 --> 00:05:04,896 We see each other as-as valued teammates. 118 00:05:04,896 --> 00:05:06,586 We enjoy working together. 119 00:05:06,586 --> 00:05:08,827 We think we can do some really good things together. 120 00:05:09,586 --> 00:05:11,068 TRAVIS: All right, 121 00:05:11,137 --> 00:05:12,379 so we're going to get out and we'll take you in 122 00:05:12,379 --> 00:05:14,000 -and show you the command center. -Cool. 123 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,275 TRAVIS: I want you all to meet Jay Stratton. 124 00:05:17,275 --> 00:05:19,172 -ERIK: Good to meet you. -THOMAS: Welcome back. 125 00:05:19,241 --> 00:05:22,275 TRAVIS: So, I've told them all about you, of course. 126 00:05:22,275 --> 00:05:24,689 So, what I'd like to hear 127 00:05:24,758 --> 00:05:28,103 is what events happened when you were here 128 00:05:28,103 --> 00:05:30,586 that you can describe in as much detail as you can, 129 00:05:30,586 --> 00:05:32,896 so we can determine if we've seen similar events. 130 00:05:32,896 --> 00:05:35,379 Absolutely. 131 00:05:35,448 --> 00:05:37,586 And have similar data that compares to what you've seen. 132 00:05:37,655 --> 00:05:40,379 So, when I came out here, the first-first trip 133 00:05:40,379 --> 00:05:41,896 out here, I was standing out, 134 00:05:41,896 --> 00:05:44,689 uh, kind of in the triangle area, 135 00:05:44,689 --> 00:05:46,482 was just randomly taking photographs and things. 136 00:05:46,482 --> 00:05:47,896 Lo and behold, right over 137 00:05:47,965 --> 00:05:49,482 the mesa, there was 138 00:05:49,551 --> 00:05:51,275 an aircraft, craft or whatever you want to call it. 139 00:05:51,275 --> 00:05:55,068 UAP, now I would say, uh, which I-I coined that term. 140 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,482 What? You gave us that term. 141 00:06:00,551 --> 00:06:02,482 -So, I created "UAP." -Yes, you can blame Jay for that, right? 142 00:06:02,482 --> 00:06:04,896 -I didn't know that. -JAY: Because I needed to 143 00:06:04,896 --> 00:06:06,586 get people away from "UFO" 144 00:06:06,655 --> 00:06:08,379 because of the connotations of little green men. 145 00:06:08,379 --> 00:06:11,275 So, you know, standing there, looking up, 146 00:06:11,275 --> 00:06:15,482 and over the mesa was this dart-like craft, 147 00:06:15,551 --> 00:06:17,103 I call it like a really tight triangle, 148 00:06:17,103 --> 00:06:19,275 uh, kind of, kind of coming in. 149 00:06:19,344 --> 00:06:21,379 He was level the whole time, 150 00:06:21,448 --> 00:06:24,275 and shot across, and I lost track of it. 151 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,275 TRAVIS: During our investigation 152 00:06:27,344 --> 00:06:28,586 here on Skinwalker Ranch, 153 00:06:28,655 --> 00:06:30,758 we've seen a number of UAPs appear 154 00:06:30,827 --> 00:06:33,275 and disappear in the skies over the property. 155 00:06:33,275 --> 00:06:36,000 But two years ago, 156 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,586 we saw one right above the mesa 157 00:06:37,586 --> 00:06:39,586 that sounds a lot like what Jay witnessed. 158 00:06:39,586 --> 00:06:40,793 Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait. 159 00:06:40,793 --> 00:06:42,379 What is that right there? Right... Yeah. 160 00:06:42,379 --> 00:06:43,793 -ERIK: You seeing that? -Yes, yeah. 161 00:06:43,793 --> 00:06:45,379 -Back up a couple frames. -ERIK: All right. 162 00:06:45,379 --> 00:06:47,172 TRAVIS: You guys see? Look. Right here. See this? 163 00:06:47,172 --> 00:06:49,482 -BRYANT: What is that? -TRAVIS: I don't know yet. 164 00:06:49,551 --> 00:06:51,758 It appears there and then right there, right above the mesa. 165 00:06:51,827 --> 00:06:53,379 BRYANT: Right above the mesa. 166 00:06:53,379 --> 00:06:54,758 TRAVIS: Could we be seeing 167 00:06:54,827 --> 00:06:56,586 the same kind of phenomena that Jay 168 00:06:56,655 --> 00:07:00,000 and members of the Bigelow team experienced back in 2009? 169 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,896 The similarities are striking. 170 00:07:01,896 --> 00:07:03,379 And another example, 171 00:07:03,379 --> 00:07:05,379 I think it was around 11:30 172 00:07:05,448 --> 00:07:07,482 at night. As we were out 173 00:07:07,482 --> 00:07:10,586 on that back deck one time, I think there were four of us, 174 00:07:10,655 --> 00:07:12,896 playing with a laser and doing other things. 175 00:07:12,896 --> 00:07:14,689 Uh, you know it was late and, uh, 176 00:07:14,689 --> 00:07:17,482 we observed a light on the mesa, 177 00:07:17,482 --> 00:07:19,103 with none of us doing anything. 178 00:07:19,103 --> 00:07:20,896 It was about the same spot where we had the laser. 179 00:07:20,965 --> 00:07:22,793 And I don't remember 180 00:07:22,793 --> 00:07:25,000 exactly who saw what, but one of us saw a circle, 181 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,068 one saw a triangle, one saw a square, you know. 182 00:07:28,137 --> 00:07:29,482 You're seeing different shapes. 183 00:07:29,551 --> 00:07:31,172 There may be a physiological explanation 184 00:07:31,241 --> 00:07:33,689 for that, I don't know, but we all saw 185 00:07:33,758 --> 00:07:35,068 distinctly different shapes 186 00:07:35,137 --> 00:07:36,758 of that same light. It's like it's 187 00:07:36,758 --> 00:07:38,793 giving a demonstration for each one of us separately. 188 00:07:38,793 --> 00:07:41,793 TRAVIS: Since I joined this investigation, 189 00:07:41,793 --> 00:07:43,586 the mesa has been a major hot spot 190 00:07:43,586 --> 00:07:45,275 of unexplainable phenomena. 191 00:07:45,275 --> 00:07:47,965 For example, back in 2018... 192 00:07:48,931 --> 00:07:51,000 ...Erik Bard captured surveillance footage 193 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,172 of some very bizarre lights moving across the mesa, 194 00:07:54,172 --> 00:07:57,965 and even a beam of light emitting from it. 195 00:07:59,620 --> 00:08:01,379 Again, I think it was around 11:30 at night, 196 00:08:01,448 --> 00:08:03,689 and three of us were walking down a path 197 00:08:03,758 --> 00:08:05,586 joking with each other. 198 00:08:05,586 --> 00:08:07,068 All of a sudden, we got quiet, 199 00:08:07,068 --> 00:08:08,586 and that's because we got to a point, 200 00:08:08,586 --> 00:08:10,379 and we could feel the temperature change. 201 00:08:11,482 --> 00:08:12,896 And as we moved forward 202 00:08:12,896 --> 00:08:15,275 to Homestead Two, it got colder and colder. 203 00:08:15,344 --> 00:08:17,586 There was a tree probably 300 yards or so 204 00:08:17,586 --> 00:08:20,000 shy of the Homestead Two. 205 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,000 The moon was real bright and it was shining, 206 00:08:23,034 --> 00:08:24,586 it cast a shadow across that tree, 207 00:08:24,655 --> 00:08:26,655 drawing a line on the road. 208 00:08:27,482 --> 00:08:28,896 Now, one of my teammates was saying 209 00:08:28,896 --> 00:08:30,379 that we can't cross that line. 210 00:08:30,448 --> 00:08:32,689 And we all had the attitude, you know, 211 00:08:32,758 --> 00:08:34,482 "Screw that, we're going." Right? 212 00:08:34,482 --> 00:08:37,172 We could not cross that line 213 00:08:37,172 --> 00:08:38,586 no matter how hard we tried. 214 00:08:38,655 --> 00:08:40,379 First thing we felt was fear, 215 00:08:40,379 --> 00:08:41,896 and one of my teammates 216 00:08:41,896 --> 00:08:43,758 looked up and he saw a dark mass 217 00:08:43,827 --> 00:08:45,482 in the top of Homestead Two, 218 00:08:45,551 --> 00:08:47,758 like a shadow figure or something looking back at us. 219 00:08:48,896 --> 00:08:51,000 And basically, that was... We felt like 220 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,896 whatever was going on down there, we wanted to see it, 221 00:08:52,896 --> 00:08:54,689 you know, we wanted to be there. 222 00:08:54,689 --> 00:08:56,793 There is so much in this story. I have heard 223 00:08:56,793 --> 00:08:58,172 a version of this story for years. 224 00:08:58,172 --> 00:09:00,068 I didn't know, I couldn't know, 225 00:09:00,068 --> 00:09:02,448 -that it was you. -It was, yeah. 226 00:09:04,310 --> 00:09:06,172 One thing I've got to tell you, 227 00:09:06,172 --> 00:09:08,793 just, uh, for academic honesty and ethics, 228 00:09:08,793 --> 00:09:10,379 is that, uh, 229 00:09:10,379 --> 00:09:14,275 we're going to use you today as part of an experiment. 230 00:09:14,275 --> 00:09:15,793 But I'm not going to 231 00:09:15,793 --> 00:09:17,586 tell you what that experiment is 232 00:09:17,586 --> 00:09:19,482 until afterwards 'cause I don't want to taint 233 00:09:19,551 --> 00:09:21,137 the outcome of the experiment. 234 00:09:22,379 --> 00:09:24,172 Right. 235 00:09:24,172 --> 00:09:25,689 I've worked with Jay for several years now, 236 00:09:25,758 --> 00:09:26,896 and I've heard him say 237 00:09:26,896 --> 00:09:29,482 many times how he strongly believes 238 00:09:29,482 --> 00:09:32,172 Skinwalker Ranch seemed to react to his presence. 239 00:09:32,241 --> 00:09:35,068 When I first came here, Thomas Winterton 240 00:09:35,068 --> 00:09:37,896 also told me he believed the property reacted 241 00:09:37,896 --> 00:09:39,793 more to certain people than others. 242 00:09:39,793 --> 00:09:42,000 So that gave Erik and I an idea 243 00:09:42,034 --> 00:09:43,793 to see if we could actually prove it. 244 00:09:43,793 --> 00:09:45,758 The word "bait" comes to mind. 245 00:09:45,827 --> 00:09:47,379 You won't be in any danger. We're not making you... 246 00:09:47,379 --> 00:09:49,586 You're not shark bait or anything like that, right? 247 00:09:49,586 --> 00:09:50,689 No, I trust you guys. Yeah. 248 00:09:50,689 --> 00:09:52,482 Well, I appreciate that. 249 00:09:52,482 --> 00:09:54,068 So, we're gonna go on a tour of the ranch in a little bit, 250 00:09:54,068 --> 00:09:55,275 and you tell us about the things you'd seen 251 00:09:55,344 --> 00:09:56,482 and so on, and we'll be 252 00:09:56,482 --> 00:09:57,896 taking data while we're doing that. 253 00:09:57,896 --> 00:10:00,172 And then, afterwards, we'll tell you 254 00:10:00,241 --> 00:10:02,172 what type of data and that sort of thing. 255 00:10:02,172 --> 00:10:03,379 Okay, yeah. 256 00:10:03,379 --> 00:10:05,000 TRAVIS: Erik and I have come up 257 00:10:05,034 --> 00:10:06,172 with an experiment to test 258 00:10:06,172 --> 00:10:08,103 if the ranch reacts to Jay 259 00:10:08,103 --> 00:10:09,896 being back here after 11 years. 260 00:10:09,896 --> 00:10:13,172 And if his presence does stimulate phenomena to occur, 261 00:10:13,172 --> 00:10:15,379 can we identify what it is? 262 00:10:15,448 --> 00:10:17,068 That's what we'd like to find out. 263 00:10:17,068 --> 00:10:19,068 Again, the investigation's important. 264 00:10:19,137 --> 00:10:22,172 ERIK: Obviously it makes a lot of sense for us 265 00:10:22,172 --> 00:10:23,689 to study very carefully 266 00:10:23,689 --> 00:10:25,482 anything that our instruments can detect 267 00:10:25,482 --> 00:10:28,000 as we bring Jay onto the property 268 00:10:28,034 --> 00:10:29,793 and take him to certain points of interest 269 00:10:29,793 --> 00:10:31,172 from his experience, 270 00:10:31,172 --> 00:10:33,758 as well as to determine whether the ranch 271 00:10:33,758 --> 00:10:36,275 would respond to the novelty of his presence. 272 00:10:36,275 --> 00:10:38,793 Well, I really like this plan. 273 00:10:38,793 --> 00:10:40,586 You know, we've got a course laid out for ourselves. 274 00:10:40,586 --> 00:10:42,689 We've got some instruments that we want to take with us, 275 00:10:42,758 --> 00:10:44,172 so we should go get the instruments prepared 276 00:10:44,241 --> 00:10:46,068 and, uh, we'll head out. 277 00:10:46,137 --> 00:10:48,275 TRAVIS: All right, we'll meet you at the vehicles. 278 00:10:53,068 --> 00:10:54,862 TRAVIS: I figured we could put it on the hood. 279 00:10:54,862 --> 00:10:56,655 Here, I've got... I've got some foam. 280 00:10:56,655 --> 00:10:57,758 Yeah, we don't want to scratch it. 281 00:10:57,758 --> 00:11:00,068 It's a common theory 282 00:11:00,068 --> 00:11:01,172 that Skinwalker Ranch responds to the presence 283 00:11:01,172 --> 00:11:02,551 of certain people. 284 00:11:02,620 --> 00:11:03,862 So we're going to drive 285 00:11:03,931 --> 00:11:06,172 former ranch investigator Jay Stratton 286 00:11:06,172 --> 00:11:07,586 around to the hot spots 287 00:11:07,586 --> 00:11:10,551 where he experienced really bizarre phenomena 288 00:11:10,551 --> 00:11:11,862 when he was a part of the Bigelow investigation 289 00:11:11,931 --> 00:11:13,344 more than a decade ago. 290 00:11:13,413 --> 00:11:15,655 We'll see if him coming back to the property 291 00:11:15,724 --> 00:11:17,448 causes strange things to happen. 292 00:11:17,448 --> 00:11:19,379 -That ain't going anywhere. -That's good, yeah. 293 00:11:19,379 --> 00:11:21,103 So, I've got both of these 294 00:11:21,103 --> 00:11:23,655 GPS trackers running and data logging. 295 00:11:23,655 --> 00:11:25,137 -Okay. All right. -We should be good to go, guys. 296 00:11:25,137 --> 00:11:26,965 TRAVIS: Erik has outfitted the Jeep 297 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,689 with GPS sensors, gamma ray detectors, 298 00:11:29,689 --> 00:11:31,551 and the spectrum analyzer 299 00:11:31,551 --> 00:11:35,379 so we can continuously scan for strange energy spikes 300 00:11:35,379 --> 00:11:37,241 and pinpoint the locations where anything 301 00:11:37,310 --> 00:11:39,137 out of the ordinary might occur. 302 00:11:39,137 --> 00:11:40,862 I'll go jump in the black. 303 00:11:40,862 --> 00:11:42,448 -All right, you gonna follow behind? -Yep. 304 00:11:42,448 --> 00:11:43,965 After our tour with Jay, 305 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,862 we'll duplicate the exact route 306 00:11:45,862 --> 00:11:47,551 without him on the property. 307 00:11:47,551 --> 00:11:50,000 That will allow us to compare the collected data sets 308 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,379 to see if there really is 309 00:11:51,379 --> 00:11:53,551 a measurable difference between the two. 310 00:11:54,551 --> 00:11:56,758 -You all in? -THOMAS: You are cleared for take-off. 311 00:11:56,827 --> 00:11:58,344 TRAVIS: We'll start the tour 312 00:11:58,344 --> 00:12:00,137 in the eastern portion of the ranch. 313 00:12:00,137 --> 00:12:02,896 From there we'll head to the triangle, 314 00:12:02,896 --> 00:12:06,241 travel west past the mesa drill site, 315 00:12:06,310 --> 00:12:08,551 and then on to Homestead Two. 316 00:12:09,793 --> 00:12:12,000 If you see something you want to tell us about 317 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,344 or ask us questions about, 318 00:12:13,413 --> 00:12:14,551 just say something 319 00:12:14,551 --> 00:12:16,586 and we'll stop and we'll do that. 320 00:12:16,586 --> 00:12:18,896 THOMAS: I want to know exactly where you were at 321 00:12:18,896 --> 00:12:21,137 with that apparition or whatever it was. 322 00:12:21,137 --> 00:12:23,896 TRAVIS: Yeah, me, too. All right, Jay, 323 00:12:23,896 --> 00:12:25,448 -now when we get to where... -Yeah. 324 00:12:25,448 --> 00:12:27,862 ...you think it's the spot, you just stop us. 325 00:12:29,068 --> 00:12:31,310 JAY: I'm pretty sure it was that tree right there. 326 00:12:35,344 --> 00:12:36,482 -You want to stop here? -Yeah, I mean, 327 00:12:36,482 --> 00:12:37,965 this is about the right spot. 328 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,413 TRAVIS: All right. 329 00:12:43,793 --> 00:12:46,103 -So, you think it's this way? -Yep. 330 00:12:46,103 --> 00:12:47,655 No, I think we're right at about the spot 331 00:12:47,724 --> 00:12:48,758 where we started to feel the fear. 332 00:12:48,758 --> 00:12:49,896 -Right in here? -Yeah. 333 00:12:49,896 --> 00:12:51,448 Where do you think the line was 334 00:12:51,448 --> 00:12:52,862 -in the road... -It was at that tree. 335 00:12:54,655 --> 00:12:55,862 -That tree? -Yep. 336 00:12:55,862 --> 00:12:57,655 I'm pretty sure that's the tree. 337 00:13:02,241 --> 00:13:04,000 The first night we were on the ranch, 338 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,379 it was about 11:30 at night, 339 00:13:06,379 --> 00:13:10,448 and myself and my two teammates went for a walk. 340 00:13:11,275 --> 00:13:13,344 So, we walked down the road, 341 00:13:13,344 --> 00:13:15,862 made our way around the curve towards Homestead Two. 342 00:13:16,689 --> 00:13:19,344 And as we made that turn, 343 00:13:19,344 --> 00:13:21,965 there's a little tree casting a shadow, 344 00:13:21,965 --> 00:13:23,379 a line across the road, 345 00:13:23,379 --> 00:13:25,655 and as we pushed towards that line, 346 00:13:25,724 --> 00:13:28,172 I said, "Do you guys feel that?" 347 00:13:29,137 --> 00:13:31,965 And immediately one of my teammates said, 348 00:13:31,965 --> 00:13:33,000 "Yeah, the hair's standing up 349 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,655 on the back of my neck." 350 00:13:36,448 --> 00:13:37,965 Feeling the fear 351 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,862 about right here, 352 00:13:39,862 --> 00:13:42,172 and the temperature inversion was about right here, too. 353 00:13:42,172 --> 00:13:43,551 TRAVIS: Really? 354 00:13:44,862 --> 00:13:46,862 JAY: As we walk closer to Homestead Two, 355 00:13:46,931 --> 00:13:50,000 we felt a drastic drop in temperature. 356 00:13:51,379 --> 00:13:52,965 And it was a wall. 357 00:13:52,965 --> 00:13:54,448 You could put your arm through it, 358 00:13:54,517 --> 00:13:56,655 and you could feel the cold versus the heat. 359 00:13:56,724 --> 00:13:58,862 It was a drastic drop, 360 00:13:58,862 --> 00:14:01,862 something that just didn't belong. 361 00:14:01,862 --> 00:14:04,137 As soon as we come around the corner, 362 00:14:04,137 --> 00:14:07,068 the feeling was, "Turn around, go back." 363 00:14:07,068 --> 00:14:10,000 On the second floor of Homestead Two, 364 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,551 through the night vision device, 365 00:14:11,551 --> 00:14:15,103 we saw what resembled a dark, shadowy figure. 366 00:14:18,448 --> 00:14:22,448 I want to ask about the dark apparition. 367 00:14:22,448 --> 00:14:24,655 -Can you point to where it was? -Absolutely. 368 00:14:24,724 --> 00:14:26,103 Let's walk and see. 369 00:14:28,689 --> 00:14:30,448 JAY: That upper area right there. 370 00:14:30,517 --> 00:14:32,241 -Yeah. -KALEB: Up in there? 371 00:14:32,241 --> 00:14:33,275 Yep. 372 00:14:33,275 --> 00:14:35,655 We could see in the distance 373 00:14:35,655 --> 00:14:38,000 what looked like a shadow figure 374 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,586 or, you know, a person, a dark person 375 00:14:39,586 --> 00:14:42,862 standing on the second floor of this structure, 376 00:14:42,931 --> 00:14:44,103 kind of in the middle, 377 00:14:44,103 --> 00:14:46,482 staring right back at us. 378 00:14:46,482 --> 00:14:49,103 What's really interesting is that there is no floor there. 379 00:14:49,103 --> 00:14:51,965 And if you saw something standing in the middle, 380 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,448 that's kind of bizarre. 381 00:14:53,448 --> 00:14:56,103 And you interpreted it as, basically, human form? 382 00:14:57,344 --> 00:14:59,000 It would have been pretty tall, though. 383 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,655 Uh, yeah. 384 00:15:01,482 --> 00:15:03,241 TRAVIS: Now, while no one on our team 385 00:15:03,241 --> 00:15:05,103 has seen such a distinct shadowy figure 386 00:15:05,103 --> 00:15:06,551 like what Jay described, 387 00:15:06,551 --> 00:15:08,793 we did have a very similar 388 00:15:08,793 --> 00:15:09,896 experience at Homestead Two 389 00:15:09,896 --> 00:15:11,241 back in 2020. 390 00:15:12,172 --> 00:15:13,344 [speaking Hebrew] 391 00:15:13,413 --> 00:15:14,344 TRAVIS: When my friend 392 00:15:14,344 --> 00:15:15,862 Rabbi Ariel Tzadok 393 00:15:15,931 --> 00:15:17,689 performed an ancient Hebrew prayer 394 00:15:17,689 --> 00:15:19,551 that was actually designed 395 00:15:19,620 --> 00:15:22,068 for opening interdimensional portals, 396 00:15:22,068 --> 00:15:24,344 our thermal cameras captured a temperature vortex 397 00:15:24,344 --> 00:15:26,000 forming near the second floor 398 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,862 of Homestead Two, right where 399 00:15:27,862 --> 00:15:31,000 Jay saw that shadowy figure appear. 400 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,241 That's... that is odd. 401 00:15:32,310 --> 00:15:34,103 Focus on this part right here. 402 00:15:34,103 --> 00:15:36,758 TRAVIS: Then, when Erik reviewed the thermal footage, 403 00:15:36,827 --> 00:15:40,172 he spotted something small and colder than its surroundings 404 00:15:40,172 --> 00:15:42,172 moving very fast across the road 405 00:15:42,172 --> 00:15:44,034 in front of the homestead. 406 00:15:44,034 --> 00:15:45,655 -Oh. Oh. -Ho. Whoa. 407 00:15:45,655 --> 00:15:47,965 -What was that? -Right there, that. 408 00:15:48,896 --> 00:15:50,862 TRAVIS: Could this be the same type of phenomena 409 00:15:50,862 --> 00:15:52,551 that Jay and his colleagues witnessed here 410 00:15:52,551 --> 00:15:54,241 over ten years ago? 411 00:15:54,310 --> 00:15:55,758 We can't say for sure, 412 00:15:55,758 --> 00:15:57,655 but we do know more investigation 413 00:15:57,655 --> 00:16:00,000 at Homestead Two is an absolute must. 414 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,034 Kaleb, you gonna meet us down the road? 415 00:16:02,034 --> 00:16:04,965 After we visited the last stop on our ranch tour 416 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,448 with Jay and got the data 417 00:16:06,448 --> 00:16:08,241 for the first part of the experiment... 418 00:16:08,241 --> 00:16:09,586 ERIK: Jay, I got to tell you, it has been fantastic 419 00:16:09,586 --> 00:16:11,586 hearing what you've got to share. 420 00:16:11,586 --> 00:16:12,965 TRAVIS: ...we finished up with him 421 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:13,965 and had him leave the ranch. 422 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,655 Then we reset the equipment 423 00:16:16,655 --> 00:16:19,034 because we planned to duplicate the experiment the next day 424 00:16:19,034 --> 00:16:20,551 to collect a new data set. 425 00:16:20,551 --> 00:16:22,758 JAY: The investigation continues. 426 00:16:29,068 --> 00:16:32,793 TRAVIS: Jay is completely off the ranch now. 427 00:16:32,793 --> 00:16:34,034 Everything's there, just like when he was with us, 428 00:16:34,034 --> 00:16:35,586 -right? -Yeah. 429 00:16:35,586 --> 00:16:37,551 TRAVIS: Now that we've got the data 430 00:16:37,551 --> 00:16:39,241 from the first part of our ranch experiment with Jay... 431 00:16:39,310 --> 00:16:41,586 We'll see if we see any changes in the instruments. 432 00:16:41,586 --> 00:16:43,896 ...we'll drive the exact same route, 433 00:16:43,896 --> 00:16:45,586 with all the same equipment as yesterday. 434 00:16:45,586 --> 00:16:47,862 We'll then compare the data sets 435 00:16:47,931 --> 00:16:49,344 and look for any different measurements. 436 00:16:50,275 --> 00:16:51,896 KALEB: What's up, dude? 437 00:16:51,896 --> 00:16:54,241 TRAVIS: While Erik, Thomas, and I 438 00:16:54,241 --> 00:16:55,965 conducted the second part of the Jay Stratton experiment, 439 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,034 Dragon and Kaleb met with Don Mitchell. 440 00:16:59,034 --> 00:17:00,965 Dragon, Kaleb. 441 00:17:00,965 --> 00:17:04,724 TRAVIS: He's the local Uinta Basin Fire Management Officer and Chief 442 00:17:04,793 --> 00:17:07,655 of the Wildlife Division for the Bureau of Indian Affairs. 443 00:17:07,655 --> 00:17:10,000 We were hoping that Don might be able 444 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,000 to tell us more about the burn marks 445 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,448 on the fence post we found last week. 446 00:17:14,448 --> 00:17:17,655 You go ahead and take shotgun, Don. It's fine. 447 00:17:18,586 --> 00:17:20,137 TRAVIS: But since he is a senior member 448 00:17:20,137 --> 00:17:22,965 of the Eastern Shoshone tribe, we also wondered 449 00:17:22,965 --> 00:17:26,241 if he could offer any insight about the recent phenomena 450 00:17:26,241 --> 00:17:28,310 that we've been experiencing in the south field. 451 00:17:31,172 --> 00:17:34,448 Whoa, what was that purple light over there? 452 00:17:34,448 --> 00:17:35,862 KALEB: We were doing some experiments 453 00:17:35,862 --> 00:17:37,965 with rockets, and Thomas saw 454 00:17:37,965 --> 00:17:39,551 a purple light here in the south field. 455 00:17:39,620 --> 00:17:40,551 THOMAS: What is that? 456 00:17:40,551 --> 00:17:42,275 KALEB: That led us to 457 00:17:42,275 --> 00:17:43,758 placing game cameras in these locations, 458 00:17:43,758 --> 00:17:45,482 and as we were 459 00:17:45,482 --> 00:17:48,000 coming into this particular area 460 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,241 to put a game camera up, we find a burnt post. 461 00:17:50,310 --> 00:17:51,758 THOMAS: What the heck would have 462 00:17:51,827 --> 00:17:53,379 burned this post? 463 00:17:53,379 --> 00:17:55,000 KALEB: And there just so happens 464 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,241 to also be a deceased deer 465 00:17:56,310 --> 00:17:58,344 in this exact same area. 466 00:17:58,344 --> 00:18:01,206 That one's been torn apart by something. 467 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,344 We started looking around a little bit, 468 00:18:03,413 --> 00:18:04,482 and that's where we found this post. 469 00:18:04,482 --> 00:18:06,172 And you can see right there, 470 00:18:06,172 --> 00:18:08,241 -it's got that little curve in it. -DON: Okay. 471 00:18:08,310 --> 00:18:12,000 BRYANT: Is there anything in particular we should look for? 472 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,758 DON: I would look for any other burnt debris 473 00:18:13,827 --> 00:18:16,000 that might have projected out. 474 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,448 And, Kaleb, there was no other tracks? 475 00:18:18,448 --> 00:18:20,793 We didn't see any vehicle tracks, 476 00:18:20,793 --> 00:18:22,344 no human tracks, nothing. 477 00:18:25,586 --> 00:18:27,758 Kind of getting a-a feeling or a sense 478 00:18:27,827 --> 00:18:29,241 of, kind of, heaviness. 479 00:18:29,310 --> 00:18:30,965 Protecting of 480 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,172 an area is most crucial, 481 00:18:34,172 --> 00:18:36,448 so let's hold here for just a sec. 482 00:18:37,379 --> 00:18:38,862 I'm just gonna do an offering 483 00:18:38,931 --> 00:18:41,793 of some tobacco 484 00:18:41,793 --> 00:18:45,241 and, uh, just ask the creator, please watch over us. 485 00:18:45,310 --> 00:18:47,448 [speaking Shoshone] 486 00:18:49,379 --> 00:18:52,655 As a member of the Eastern Shoshone tribe, 487 00:18:52,655 --> 00:18:55,758 I do a cultural blessing 488 00:18:55,758 --> 00:18:58,172 and give an offering of tobacco. 489 00:18:59,068 --> 00:19:01,241 It's always best to give some type of offering, um, 490 00:19:01,241 --> 00:19:03,344 for protection and understanding 491 00:19:03,413 --> 00:19:05,758 before going in 492 00:19:05,827 --> 00:19:07,620 and onto the ground to investigate. 493 00:19:12,689 --> 00:19:15,482 Okay, Kaleb, Dragon, let's, uh... 494 00:19:15,482 --> 00:19:17,448 Let's continue on here. 495 00:19:21,793 --> 00:19:24,241 What is strikingly odd 496 00:19:24,241 --> 00:19:28,448 is this line that goes up and around, 497 00:19:28,448 --> 00:19:31,551 and where is the rest of it? 498 00:19:32,896 --> 00:19:34,000 Our initial thought is lightning. 499 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,000 But I'd assume, if we had 500 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,689 a lightning strike here, 501 00:19:38,689 --> 00:19:40,275 we'd see definitely more damage 502 00:19:40,275 --> 00:19:41,758 on the ground. 503 00:19:41,827 --> 00:19:43,137 DON: We would definitely see debris. 504 00:19:43,137 --> 00:19:47,103 As you can see, in the smoldering phase of this, 505 00:19:47,103 --> 00:19:49,448 that there's no blackening 506 00:19:49,517 --> 00:19:53,793 that comes up around the post in any direction. 507 00:19:53,793 --> 00:19:55,586 Like, if we put a candle here, 508 00:19:55,586 --> 00:19:57,965 and it started to smolder right here, 509 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,241 we would get that black smoke residue of that carbon 510 00:20:02,241 --> 00:20:03,862 on to the post. 511 00:20:03,862 --> 00:20:05,655 BRYANT: So, if I'm understanding correctly, 512 00:20:05,655 --> 00:20:07,137 based off of what you're saying, 513 00:20:07,137 --> 00:20:10,793 it seems as though it was something extremely hot 514 00:20:10,793 --> 00:20:12,793 that scorched it but it never 515 00:20:12,793 --> 00:20:14,448 -really incinerated, correct? -Correct. 516 00:20:15,689 --> 00:20:17,793 But I can tell you, this is not arson, 517 00:20:17,793 --> 00:20:19,379 this is not chemical, 518 00:20:19,379 --> 00:20:22,448 and this, in my opinion, is not lightning. 519 00:20:23,793 --> 00:20:25,655 BRYANT: So, what is it, then? 520 00:20:26,586 --> 00:20:29,448 That's the million-dollar question, Dragon. 521 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,965 KALEB: Have you seen anything like this before? 522 00:20:39,896 --> 00:20:41,551 I have seen only 523 00:20:41,620 --> 00:20:44,482 man-made of something 524 00:20:44,482 --> 00:20:46,379 of this nature, 'cause of the line, 525 00:20:46,379 --> 00:20:48,206 through plasma cutting. 526 00:20:49,137 --> 00:20:50,379 It's hard to speculate, 527 00:20:50,379 --> 00:20:52,862 but from the different areas of 528 00:20:52,931 --> 00:20:56,000 spontaneous combustion that I've dealt with in my career, 529 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,000 and in fire investigations, 530 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,655 it was some type of extreme heat. 531 00:21:03,034 --> 00:21:05,758 A third of that post is missing. 532 00:21:05,758 --> 00:21:07,758 It is very bizarre. 533 00:21:09,275 --> 00:21:11,000 When you kind of look at this, 534 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,241 you see that there's this curve in that post 535 00:21:13,241 --> 00:21:14,793 that's been taken out. 536 00:21:14,793 --> 00:21:17,137 As if something came through it 537 00:21:17,137 --> 00:21:19,896 and caused this damage, and, yeah, there's no debris. 538 00:21:19,896 --> 00:21:22,862 So, how hot would it have to be to just 539 00:21:22,931 --> 00:21:25,068 -totally vaporize... -Vaporize it. 540 00:21:25,068 --> 00:21:28,448 You're talking about 780 to 800 degrees. 541 00:21:28,448 --> 00:21:30,896 BRYANT: Right, if there's that kind of a heat signature, 542 00:21:30,896 --> 00:21:33,965 just the radiated heat would cause damage 543 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,551 to this green foliage, 544 00:21:35,620 --> 00:21:37,034 and it looks like none of it 545 00:21:37,034 --> 00:21:38,482 has been exposed to any of the extreme heat. 546 00:21:38,482 --> 00:21:39,758 DON: Correct. 547 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,344 So, we know this is hot as lightning, 548 00:21:42,344 --> 00:21:44,000 but it's not lightning. 549 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,655 It's not man-made. 550 00:21:45,724 --> 00:21:47,034 -DON: Correct. -KALEB: So, what could do that? 551 00:21:47,034 --> 00:21:51,655 I'll only touch on it just-just briefly 552 00:21:51,724 --> 00:21:54,344 because this is definitely strange. 553 00:21:54,413 --> 00:21:55,758 Speaking culturally, 554 00:21:55,758 --> 00:21:58,068 it would go back to 555 00:21:58,068 --> 00:22:00,551 what the ranch is named after. 556 00:22:00,620 --> 00:22:02,758 -Okay. -Okay. 557 00:22:02,758 --> 00:22:05,000 I'm sorry, I don't feel comfortable... 558 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,965 -KALEB: You're fine. -...speaking on that, on that portion. 559 00:22:06,965 --> 00:22:09,448 I don't want to breach anything that is-- 560 00:22:09,448 --> 00:22:11,000 -that makes you uncomfortable. -But we will continue on. 561 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,965 KALEB: I think it's really valuable 562 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,965 and important that we have Native Americans 563 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,655 coming to the property 564 00:22:16,724 --> 00:22:19,275 because there is a lot of history here 565 00:22:19,275 --> 00:22:20,965 and this is a different viewpoint 566 00:22:20,965 --> 00:22:22,379 that we really don't get a lot of. 567 00:22:22,379 --> 00:22:24,137 It's just so strange. 568 00:22:24,137 --> 00:22:25,482 Yes. 569 00:22:25,482 --> 00:22:27,103 KALEB: Some Native Americans 570 00:22:27,103 --> 00:22:29,482 aren't willing to speak of any kind of relation 571 00:22:29,482 --> 00:22:31,137 when it comes to Skinwalker Ranch 572 00:22:31,137 --> 00:22:33,793 or anything involving the word "skinwalker." 573 00:22:33,793 --> 00:22:35,103 Bringing attention to 574 00:22:35,103 --> 00:22:36,965 the skinwalker is very bad medicine, 575 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,586 and it makes them very uncomfortable 576 00:22:38,586 --> 00:22:40,379 because they don't want to draw anything 577 00:22:40,379 --> 00:22:42,241 of that energy into their life. 578 00:22:42,241 --> 00:22:44,275 Don, I can't thank you enough for coming out here 579 00:22:44,275 --> 00:22:46,448 and lending your expertise, both from 580 00:22:46,517 --> 00:22:48,068 your professional side of things, 581 00:22:48,068 --> 00:22:50,103 as well as your spiritual side of things, 582 00:22:50,103 --> 00:22:52,448 and offering a blessing of protection. 583 00:22:52,448 --> 00:22:54,448 I felt good, and hopefully this will 584 00:22:54,517 --> 00:22:55,862 lend us to get more answers. 585 00:22:55,931 --> 00:22:58,000 Yes, you know, 'cause how do you answer 586 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,862 the unanswerable? 587 00:22:59,862 --> 00:23:01,965 And all we can do is, as we peel back that veil 588 00:23:01,965 --> 00:23:04,103 and peel that onion a little bit 589 00:23:04,103 --> 00:23:05,758 and move forward. 590 00:23:05,827 --> 00:23:06,862 Thank you, Dragon. 591 00:23:06,862 --> 00:23:08,655 -Thank you. -Thanks, Don. 592 00:23:17,172 --> 00:23:18,241 TRAVIS: Hey, Erik, 593 00:23:18,241 --> 00:23:19,655 you got Jay 594 00:23:19,655 --> 00:23:21,758 -on the horn yet? -Yeah, I have him. 595 00:23:21,758 --> 00:23:23,862 TRAVIS: The day after we completed the control run 596 00:23:23,931 --> 00:23:25,689 of our two-part experiment 597 00:23:25,689 --> 00:23:28,482 with Jay Stratton, Erik and I processed all the data 598 00:23:28,482 --> 00:23:30,965 and immediately arranged a videoconference 599 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,000 to share the incredible results. 600 00:23:34,482 --> 00:23:35,551 Hey, Jay. How's it going? 601 00:23:35,551 --> 00:23:36,758 Hey, guys. How are you? 602 00:23:36,758 --> 00:23:37,965 TRAVIS: All right. 603 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,551 So, in this experiment, 604 00:23:39,551 --> 00:23:42,482 what we did, Jay, is we put 605 00:23:42,482 --> 00:23:46,448 GPS sensors on the Jeep, 606 00:23:46,517 --> 00:23:48,000 we had a magnetic field meter on there, 607 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,172 and we also had 608 00:23:50,172 --> 00:23:51,965 a Geiger counter in there 609 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,137 that we were data logging through the entire time 610 00:23:54,137 --> 00:23:57,551 you got in the Jeep and went on the tour. 611 00:23:57,620 --> 00:24:00,793 And we timed and logged every step of the way 612 00:24:00,793 --> 00:24:02,275 and everything you did 613 00:24:02,275 --> 00:24:04,758 from the time we left the command center. 614 00:24:04,758 --> 00:24:06,862 And then, after you left the ranch, 615 00:24:06,862 --> 00:24:09,758 we did a control run. 616 00:24:09,758 --> 00:24:13,000 And then, when we got back, Erik took the data, 617 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:17,137 compiled it all, and then overlaid the two data sets. 618 00:24:17,137 --> 00:24:19,344 And you would think, well, you know, 619 00:24:19,413 --> 00:24:20,965 what difference does that make? 620 00:24:20,965 --> 00:24:23,965 Well, we were wondering if, since you were here 621 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,862 back in the Bigelow era 622 00:24:25,931 --> 00:24:27,896 and you had seen some things when you were here, 623 00:24:27,896 --> 00:24:30,689 if maybe the ranch would respond 624 00:24:30,689 --> 00:24:32,862 or you would stimulate a response or something. 625 00:24:32,862 --> 00:24:35,241 So that was the idea for the experiment. 626 00:24:35,241 --> 00:24:37,482 I'm super excited to hear 627 00:24:37,482 --> 00:24:39,275 if there was a response, 628 00:24:39,275 --> 00:24:41,655 uh, so I think this is the perfect experiment 629 00:24:41,724 --> 00:24:43,793 to try and see if there's some type of connection 630 00:24:43,793 --> 00:24:45,586 that ranch or that area makes 631 00:24:45,586 --> 00:24:47,482 with individuals coming out there. 632 00:24:47,482 --> 00:24:48,965 TRAVIS: Well, uh, 633 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,689 with that said, Erik, what do you think? 634 00:24:50,689 --> 00:24:52,137 Let's show him the data? 635 00:24:52,137 --> 00:24:53,655 Well, I think I should probably run through 636 00:24:53,655 --> 00:24:55,344 the summary at least. 637 00:24:55,413 --> 00:24:56,862 You know, we have different kinds of data, 638 00:24:56,862 --> 00:25:00,068 as Travis just took us through. 639 00:25:00,068 --> 00:25:04,344 So, to start with, I want to look at the GPS trackers. 640 00:25:04,413 --> 00:25:06,586 So, I think what I'd like to do 641 00:25:06,586 --> 00:25:08,034 is a screen share... 642 00:25:08,034 --> 00:25:09,241 That'd be great. 643 00:25:09,310 --> 00:25:10,344 ERIK: ...and bring up 644 00:25:10,344 --> 00:25:13,862 the control tour that we did. 645 00:25:13,931 --> 00:25:16,448 TRAVIS: Are you seeing all that, Jay? 646 00:25:16,517 --> 00:25:19,551 I see at least the, uh, the initial. 647 00:25:19,551 --> 00:25:21,379 Perfect. So, of course, this follows 648 00:25:21,379 --> 00:25:24,379 all of the roads that we took. 649 00:25:24,379 --> 00:25:26,862 And if you look at that, it pretty much looks like 650 00:25:26,862 --> 00:25:28,344 exactly what we did. 651 00:25:28,413 --> 00:25:30,344 This was without you here on the ranch. 652 00:25:30,344 --> 00:25:32,137 You were... You had already gone home. 653 00:25:32,137 --> 00:25:33,965 This is what we expected to see, so... 654 00:25:33,965 --> 00:25:37,379 Absolutely, that looks complete... 655 00:25:37,379 --> 00:25:39,103 completely normal to me. 656 00:25:39,103 --> 00:25:41,551 Okay. Now, I'm going to bring up the data 657 00:25:41,620 --> 00:25:43,689 generated during your visit. 658 00:25:43,689 --> 00:25:46,517 I've colored it red, of course. 659 00:25:48,241 --> 00:25:50,068 At first glance it, you know, conforms 660 00:25:50,068 --> 00:25:52,344 to the same path. 661 00:25:53,172 --> 00:25:55,689 TRAVIS: Do you notice anything about the data yet? 662 00:25:55,689 --> 00:25:59,655 Well, it's-it's sparse, there's a heck of a lot 663 00:25:59,724 --> 00:26:01,655 of missing data points. 664 00:26:01,655 --> 00:26:02,965 ERIK: That does seem to be the case, 665 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,000 doesn't it? 666 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,068 And at this spot right here, 667 00:26:06,068 --> 00:26:07,965 that's the drill site. 668 00:26:07,965 --> 00:26:09,655 JAY: We should be seeing a lot more 669 00:26:09,724 --> 00:26:12,068 -than we're seeing. -TRAVIS: Yeah, you should be. 670 00:26:12,068 --> 00:26:13,448 ERIK: Yeah, so, um, 671 00:26:13,448 --> 00:26:14,862 I don't know how to, uh, 672 00:26:14,862 --> 00:26:16,241 how to break it to you except to show you. 673 00:26:19,551 --> 00:26:21,862 TRAVIS: But now look where the data actually is. 674 00:26:23,586 --> 00:26:26,551 The data went way underground. 675 00:26:26,620 --> 00:26:27,931 Wow. 676 00:26:29,379 --> 00:26:30,724 Well, that's amazing. 677 00:26:36,793 --> 00:26:38,137 TRAVIS: Literally the only thing 678 00:26:38,137 --> 00:26:41,137 we changed in the experiment 679 00:26:41,137 --> 00:26:44,000 was the occupants of the car. 680 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,793 And the data 681 00:26:45,793 --> 00:26:47,896 goes nuts. It went way underground. 682 00:26:47,896 --> 00:26:49,586 Wow. 683 00:26:49,586 --> 00:26:51,000 TRAVIS: And if you look, 684 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,862 this spot right here, 685 00:26:52,931 --> 00:26:55,344 that's the drill site. 686 00:26:55,413 --> 00:26:57,034 And then, when you go to the next dip, 687 00:26:57,034 --> 00:27:00,344 that's where you stopped and said this is the tree 688 00:27:00,413 --> 00:27:02,000 that you saw the thing 689 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,793 standing up at Homestead Two, 690 00:27:03,793 --> 00:27:05,655 and look how the data goes 691 00:27:05,655 --> 00:27:08,241 way deep underground there. 692 00:27:09,379 --> 00:27:10,551 How far is that, Erik? 693 00:27:10,551 --> 00:27:11,551 ERIK: You know, 694 00:27:11,551 --> 00:27:13,000 if we use the mesa 695 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,655 as our scale reference, we're looking at 696 00:27:14,724 --> 00:27:16,551 something, like, you know, a thousand feet. 697 00:27:17,482 --> 00:27:19,000 This is amazing. 698 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,655 TRAVIS: The GPS data 699 00:27:20,655 --> 00:27:22,068 from our experiment with Jay Stratton 700 00:27:22,068 --> 00:27:23,965 is just plain crazy. 701 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,344 It shows that Jay 702 00:27:25,413 --> 00:27:26,689 went underground 703 00:27:26,689 --> 00:27:28,689 just after passing the mesa drill site. 704 00:27:28,689 --> 00:27:32,551 Then, once he moved closer to Homestead Two, 705 00:27:32,620 --> 00:27:36,000 it says he went over a thousand feet below the surface. 706 00:27:36,896 --> 00:27:39,448 And what's really interesting 707 00:27:39,517 --> 00:27:41,448 is the control is completely different. 708 00:27:41,448 --> 00:27:43,965 -Can you overlay 'em? -I sure can. 709 00:27:45,896 --> 00:27:48,344 TRAVIS: So, if you overlay 'em now and look, 710 00:27:48,344 --> 00:27:51,241 when you go underneath the ground, 711 00:27:51,310 --> 00:27:53,379 none of the control data is under the ground, 712 00:27:53,379 --> 00:27:56,241 but look at your path. 713 00:27:56,241 --> 00:27:57,689 JAY: We're seeing something 714 00:27:57,689 --> 00:27:59,379 in that area affecting the equipment, 715 00:27:59,379 --> 00:28:01,344 reacting to my presence being there. 716 00:28:01,413 --> 00:28:04,000 That's amazing. 717 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,103 What could just you being in the car 718 00:28:06,103 --> 00:28:10,344 do to a GPS sensor to make it go haywire? 719 00:28:10,413 --> 00:28:12,448 I mean, when I was first introduced to the ranch, 720 00:28:12,448 --> 00:28:13,965 folks were referring to the ranch 721 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,655 as if it's a person, uh, reacting. 722 00:28:18,793 --> 00:28:21,068 Obviously, I was highly skeptical of any of that. 723 00:28:21,068 --> 00:28:23,068 Yet it's been in my life so long 724 00:28:23,068 --> 00:28:24,965 that I'm comfortable referring to the ranch 725 00:28:24,965 --> 00:28:27,172 as a... as a person now 726 00:28:27,172 --> 00:28:28,586 because I have certainly seen it 727 00:28:28,586 --> 00:28:30,655 react differently to different people. 728 00:28:30,655 --> 00:28:31,965 TRAVIS: So, the question is, 729 00:28:31,965 --> 00:28:34,000 does the ranch somehow, uh, 730 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,448 know you were here? 731 00:28:35,517 --> 00:28:37,965 Was it coupled, entangled with you? 732 00:28:37,965 --> 00:28:39,206 Right. 733 00:28:40,068 --> 00:28:42,000 TRAVIS: This data strongly suggests 734 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,793 that the ranch really does react to individuals. 735 00:28:44,793 --> 00:28:46,586 But why some more than others? 736 00:28:46,586 --> 00:28:49,965 And why did the GPS sensors suddenly go underground 737 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,551 just after Jay passed the mesa drill site? 738 00:28:52,620 --> 00:28:55,241 Could the dome-shaped object that we drilled up against 739 00:28:55,310 --> 00:28:58,103 deep inside the mesa somehow be connected 740 00:28:58,103 --> 00:28:59,551 to the GPS data 741 00:28:59,551 --> 00:29:01,758 going a thousand feet below the surface? 742 00:29:01,827 --> 00:29:03,655 At this point we don't know, 743 00:29:03,724 --> 00:29:06,275 but it seems like more than just a coincidence. 744 00:29:06,275 --> 00:29:08,758 Jay, this is great. 745 00:29:08,827 --> 00:29:10,068 Uh, really appreciate you being in our experiment. 746 00:29:10,068 --> 00:29:11,379 Oh, definitely. 747 00:29:11,379 --> 00:29:12,551 ERIK: See you later, Jay. 748 00:29:12,620 --> 00:29:14,000 JAY: Thanks, gents. 749 00:29:22,344 --> 00:29:26,758 TRAVIS: Well, the big question still remains. 750 00:29:26,758 --> 00:29:29,551 How do we get inside the mesa? 751 00:29:29,620 --> 00:29:31,689 AARON: It's almost like we're hitting something 752 00:29:31,689 --> 00:29:33,448 really, really hard. 753 00:29:33,517 --> 00:29:34,896 TRAVIS: The last time we drilled 754 00:29:34,896 --> 00:29:36,758 from the bottom of the mesa, 755 00:29:36,827 --> 00:29:38,344 we weren't able to reach the vertical 756 00:29:38,413 --> 00:29:40,965 and potentially metallic object inside there. 757 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,448 So now we're gonna brainstorm a new approach that might work. 758 00:29:44,448 --> 00:29:47,137 We're gonna have to drill from the top of the mesa. 759 00:29:47,137 --> 00:29:50,241 The one thing we definitely know is that it won't be easy. 760 00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:53,034 Well, I sure am curious about whatever it is that we hit 761 00:29:53,034 --> 00:29:55,482 that, number one, was so hard, number two, didn't produce 762 00:29:55,482 --> 00:29:58,172 any friction against that-that, uh, drill head, 763 00:29:58,172 --> 00:30:01,965 and, number three, caused the change in the RF spectrum. 764 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,551 TRAVIS: That to me is 765 00:30:03,620 --> 00:30:04,862 three pieces of data 766 00:30:04,931 --> 00:30:06,344 that are really 767 00:30:06,344 --> 00:30:08,551 phenomenal. I mean, why did it 768 00:30:08,551 --> 00:30:10,655 not grind that drill bit down? 769 00:30:10,655 --> 00:30:12,000 -KALEB: Yes. -TRAVIS: That-that is amazing. 770 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,482 What kind of material can do that? 771 00:30:14,482 --> 00:30:17,862 So, how could we look inside the mesa? 772 00:30:17,931 --> 00:30:19,862 THOMAS: I haven't found 773 00:30:19,862 --> 00:30:22,379 a place that we could easily do that 774 00:30:22,379 --> 00:30:25,862 without completely scarring it permanently. 775 00:30:25,931 --> 00:30:28,137 You know, Brandon made it clear he doesn't want that. 776 00:30:28,137 --> 00:30:29,758 Personally, I don't want to do that. 777 00:30:29,758 --> 00:30:31,172 So I've got 778 00:30:31,172 --> 00:30:33,172 a possible solution. 779 00:30:33,172 --> 00:30:35,379 I wonder if we brought a portable drill in 780 00:30:35,379 --> 00:30:37,344 and tried to do just a vertical shaft down 781 00:30:37,413 --> 00:30:39,965 and tried to go down on top of it, to where we could get 782 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,137 -a camera down there. -Yeah, and we could then maybe 783 00:30:42,137 --> 00:30:44,862 find if that hole is connected to something somewhere. 784 00:30:44,931 --> 00:30:46,655 ERIK: So, if we get directly above 785 00:30:46,655 --> 00:30:49,241 the place where the drill head got stopped, 786 00:30:49,241 --> 00:30:50,758 I'd like to know exactly 787 00:30:50,758 --> 00:30:52,862 what did it encounter right there, 788 00:30:52,931 --> 00:30:55,034 'cause we know we've got something really hard there. 789 00:30:55,034 --> 00:30:58,241 I like your idea, Erik, of going where the drill head stopped, 790 00:30:58,310 --> 00:31:00,172 'cause we know exactly 791 00:31:00,172 --> 00:31:01,241 where that bit was at. 792 00:31:01,310 --> 00:31:03,000 Oh, that's a great idea. 793 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,344 We need to do... Let's-let's do that, that's a great idea. 794 00:31:06,275 --> 00:31:08,034 ERIK: Well, I say we get back 795 00:31:08,034 --> 00:31:09,551 to the command center and start planning how 796 00:31:09,551 --> 00:31:11,344 -we're going to pull this off. -Yeah. 797 00:31:11,413 --> 00:31:13,448 KALEB: I'm going to go check the game cameras. 798 00:31:13,448 --> 00:31:15,206 ERIK: Sounds like a plan. 799 00:31:23,586 --> 00:31:25,965 BRYANT: After the recent incident that had Thomas 800 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,758 chasing off after some purple light in the south field, 801 00:31:28,827 --> 00:31:31,965 we've deployed these various game cameras. 802 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,068 I've asked Kaleb to go out 803 00:31:33,068 --> 00:31:34,551 and grab the cards from 'em 804 00:31:34,551 --> 00:31:37,448 to see if there's anything that we see there 805 00:31:37,517 --> 00:31:39,344 that is strange or stands out. 806 00:31:42,068 --> 00:31:44,103 -Hey, Bryant. -Hey, man. 807 00:31:44,103 --> 00:31:45,793 I got those cards from those cameras. 808 00:31:45,793 --> 00:31:47,103 Yep. Okay, cool. 809 00:31:47,103 --> 00:31:48,551 -Let's check it out. -All right. 810 00:31:49,275 --> 00:31:51,586 This is us setting it up, looks like. 811 00:31:51,586 --> 00:31:52,793 How long have these 812 00:31:52,793 --> 00:31:54,482 -been out there? -About a week. 813 00:31:54,482 --> 00:31:56,103 -Okay. -About a week now. 814 00:31:56,103 --> 00:31:58,758 KALEB: This is on the east facing west. 815 00:31:58,827 --> 00:32:00,137 BRYANT: Okay. 816 00:32:01,068 --> 00:32:02,896 KALEB: I'm not seeing anything 817 00:32:02,896 --> 00:32:05,000 -jumping out at me right now. -No. 818 00:32:07,275 --> 00:32:09,965 BRYANT: I'm surprised we haven't seen any game of any kind yet. 819 00:32:09,965 --> 00:32:12,551 That's what I'm wondering. What's setting off the cameras? 820 00:32:12,551 --> 00:32:13,827 Right. 821 00:32:17,689 --> 00:32:18,965 Whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 822 00:32:18,965 --> 00:32:20,379 -Back that up. -You see that? 823 00:32:20,379 --> 00:32:22,103 Yeah, back that up. What, what was that? 824 00:32:22,103 --> 00:32:24,068 KALEB: I'm just running through it 825 00:32:24,068 --> 00:32:26,206 frame by frame. 826 00:32:30,689 --> 00:32:32,551 What? 827 00:32:33,344 --> 00:32:35,206 KALEB: It's like a silver orb. 828 00:32:47,482 --> 00:32:49,275 Looked like a silver orb or something. 829 00:32:49,275 --> 00:32:51,689 Well, it was something. It was really quick. 830 00:32:51,689 --> 00:32:52,965 Do we have the possibility to, like, pause it 831 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,000 and then like scrub through it? 832 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,758 KALEB: Yeah. 833 00:32:57,241 --> 00:32:59,551 So this... 834 00:32:59,620 --> 00:33:03,793 this is gonna be frame by frame here. 835 00:33:03,793 --> 00:33:07,000 Didn't you see it? It was like some little quick flash there. 836 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,724 -I saw it over in this area there. Yeah. -Yeah. 837 00:33:13,482 --> 00:33:15,620 BRYANT: Whoa, right there. Look at that. 838 00:33:17,034 --> 00:33:20,551 KALEB: So, depending on how far away that is... 839 00:33:20,620 --> 00:33:22,896 Yeah. I mean, if it's back at the tree line, 840 00:33:22,896 --> 00:33:24,241 that thing's pretty big. 841 00:33:24,241 --> 00:33:26,827 It's massive if it's at the tree line. 842 00:33:27,689 --> 00:33:29,172 BRYANT: And it's gone. It's like one frame? 843 00:33:29,172 --> 00:33:30,241 KALEB: One frame. 844 00:33:30,241 --> 00:33:31,965 What? 845 00:33:34,655 --> 00:33:37,000 And this is like broad daylight. 846 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,551 Yeah. 847 00:33:39,379 --> 00:33:41,655 As you can imagine, these cameras picked up 848 00:33:41,724 --> 00:33:43,758 all sorts of normal things, 849 00:33:43,758 --> 00:33:45,965 but there was a couple frames on one of them 850 00:33:45,965 --> 00:33:47,862 that was really strange, 851 00:33:47,862 --> 00:33:49,275 and at first glance it appeared 852 00:33:49,275 --> 00:33:51,448 to be a silver orb-type 853 00:33:51,517 --> 00:33:54,241 shaped object off in the distance. 854 00:33:54,241 --> 00:33:56,103 I don't know whether it's exotic or not, 855 00:33:56,103 --> 00:33:58,379 but it's still a concern. 856 00:33:59,310 --> 00:34:01,275 Well, the, the hard thing is to try and determine 857 00:34:01,275 --> 00:34:02,862 the size of that thing. 858 00:34:02,931 --> 00:34:06,172 -Yeah. -I mean, whatever it is, it's moving fast. 859 00:34:06,172 --> 00:34:08,379 And from here it looks like it's coming straight in. 860 00:34:08,379 --> 00:34:09,482 Right, if I... 861 00:34:09,482 --> 00:34:10,965 Okay, can I... 862 00:34:10,965 --> 00:34:12,379 -So, if I pause it like this... -Mm-hmm. 863 00:34:13,551 --> 00:34:15,758 ...it makes me think it's big. 864 00:34:15,827 --> 00:34:17,482 What I'd like to do is get Erik's eyes on it. 865 00:34:17,482 --> 00:34:19,965 You know, he's got that video software 866 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,586 where he can analyze everything 867 00:34:21,586 --> 00:34:23,034 and track everything. 868 00:34:23,034 --> 00:34:24,655 So we probably need to get his eyes on this. 869 00:34:24,724 --> 00:34:26,689 Yeah. 870 00:34:26,689 --> 00:34:29,034 Hey, Erik, this is Bryant and Kaleb at the guard shack. 871 00:34:29,034 --> 00:34:30,379 Do you copy? 872 00:34:33,172 --> 00:34:35,551 So, Kaleb brought me the memory cards 873 00:34:35,620 --> 00:34:38,551 from those trail cameras that we have out on the property. 874 00:34:38,551 --> 00:34:41,551 But there's one thing that we'd like you to get your eyes on. 875 00:34:44,103 --> 00:34:46,034 All right. Thanks, Erik. 876 00:34:46,034 --> 00:34:47,965 -BRYANT: Okay? -KALEB: Okay, let's go. 877 00:34:48,862 --> 00:34:51,241 See if we can get better eyes on 'em. 878 00:34:51,241 --> 00:34:52,965 BRYANT: If this is some sort of orb, 879 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,000 that's interesting. 880 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,655 I think this is definitely something that Travis and Erik 881 00:34:57,655 --> 00:35:00,310 need to take a look at and analyze further. 882 00:35:00,310 --> 00:35:01,896 If it's not 883 00:35:01,896 --> 00:35:03,310 and it's a security risk 884 00:35:03,310 --> 00:35:04,965 with someone trying to damage our assets, 885 00:35:04,965 --> 00:35:06,862 that falls on my plate. 886 00:35:08,172 --> 00:35:11,310 So it's important for us to get eyes on this immediately. 887 00:35:15,586 --> 00:35:16,965 Hey. 888 00:35:16,965 --> 00:35:19,172 -KALEB: Hey, guys. -What's going on, fellas? 889 00:35:19,172 --> 00:35:20,896 BRYANT: Hey. Did you get that file I sent? 890 00:35:20,896 --> 00:35:23,137 -Yeah, I just got that. Um... -Okay. 891 00:35:23,137 --> 00:35:25,310 ERIK: Curious to see what it is. 892 00:35:25,310 --> 00:35:27,275 -It's going to be over here on this monitor. -TRAVIS: Was it a file? 893 00:35:27,275 --> 00:35:29,862 -What'd y'all send? -Yeah, so just to-to preface what's going on, 894 00:35:29,862 --> 00:35:32,758 um, you know we have those trail cam or game cameras 895 00:35:32,758 --> 00:35:34,689 in some of the parts of the property. 896 00:35:34,689 --> 00:35:36,206 Mm-hmm. 897 00:35:36,206 --> 00:35:38,241 We got three just down there on the south end. 898 00:35:38,241 --> 00:35:39,896 On the south side. Yeah, yeah, okay. 899 00:35:39,896 --> 00:35:41,103 KALEB: We go and put these cameras out there 900 00:35:41,103 --> 00:35:43,896 pretty soon after Thomas 901 00:35:43,896 --> 00:35:45,758 -saw that purple light. -TRAVIS: Yeah. 902 00:35:45,827 --> 00:35:46,862 You know, within a day. 903 00:35:46,862 --> 00:35:47,965 So I just went down there 904 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,689 and grabbed those three cards, 905 00:35:49,689 --> 00:35:51,068 swapped... put new ones in, 906 00:35:51,068 --> 00:35:53,137 and we just were looking at the footage, 907 00:35:53,137 --> 00:35:54,655 and we just found something that we thought 908 00:35:54,655 --> 00:35:56,103 you guys might want to look at. 909 00:35:56,103 --> 00:35:57,862 -TRAVIS: Really? -Yeah. 910 00:35:57,931 --> 00:35:59,655 Okay, so, guys, will you remind me 911 00:35:59,724 --> 00:36:02,103 how deep into the interior of the property this camera... 912 00:36:02,103 --> 00:36:04,241 So, this camera 913 00:36:04,241 --> 00:36:06,241 is really inside the property. 914 00:36:06,241 --> 00:36:07,793 It's not on the fence line. 915 00:36:07,793 --> 00:36:10,448 So, for someone to find this, they have to be 916 00:36:10,517 --> 00:36:12,758 -on the property extensively. -ERIK: Okay. 917 00:36:12,758 --> 00:36:14,689 KALEB: But on the other side of that is the camera 918 00:36:14,689 --> 00:36:16,241 that's on the other side of the field 919 00:36:16,241 --> 00:36:18,862 looking at this camera, it didn't catch anything. 920 00:36:18,862 --> 00:36:20,689 -Oh. -Really? 921 00:36:20,689 --> 00:36:22,793 -KALEB: Yeah. -ERIK: Okay. 922 00:36:22,793 --> 00:36:25,000 Uh, well, you ready to take a look at it? 923 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,172 Yeah, sure. 924 00:36:26,172 --> 00:36:27,862 All right, here we go. 925 00:36:31,689 --> 00:36:33,551 -BRYANT: Go back. Right there. -TRAVIS: Yo. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 926 00:36:33,551 --> 00:36:35,103 BRYANT: Right there. 927 00:36:35,103 --> 00:36:38,034 TRAVIS: Holy cow. 928 00:36:38,793 --> 00:36:40,172 ERIK: Well, it looks like 929 00:36:40,172 --> 00:36:42,275 at least part of this thing is spherical. 930 00:36:42,275 --> 00:36:44,103 Mm-hmm. Right. 931 00:36:44,103 --> 00:36:45,379 THOMAS: Is this a one-frame event? 932 00:36:45,379 --> 00:36:47,551 BRYANT: It is. 933 00:36:47,551 --> 00:36:50,000 It's literally one frame. 934 00:36:50,862 --> 00:36:52,034 That's crazy. 935 00:36:52,034 --> 00:36:53,241 BRYANT: So if it's something, 936 00:36:53,241 --> 00:36:55,448 like, really exotic, like, 937 00:36:55,448 --> 00:36:57,965 middle of the day, an orb like that showing up, 938 00:36:57,965 --> 00:36:59,827 a sphere showing up, that's crazy. 939 00:37:04,689 --> 00:37:06,758 BRYANT: At first glance, what... 940 00:37:06,827 --> 00:37:09,172 I mean, what are your thoughts? 941 00:37:09,172 --> 00:37:11,206 Well, uh, the fact that the shape 942 00:37:11,206 --> 00:37:13,344 of the dark spot is different 943 00:37:13,344 --> 00:37:16,068 and it seems to have expanded relative to the rest of it 944 00:37:16,068 --> 00:37:19,689 is kind of consistent with reflections 945 00:37:19,689 --> 00:37:22,275 because it's in a different place. 946 00:37:22,275 --> 00:37:23,689 Which suggests that it's metallic 947 00:37:23,689 --> 00:37:25,344 or at least reflective of some sort. 948 00:37:25,344 --> 00:37:27,103 ERIK: Mm-hmm. It does suggest that. 949 00:37:28,689 --> 00:37:30,275 Travis, the first time I was looking at this, 950 00:37:30,275 --> 00:37:32,965 it makes me think of the model that you made 951 00:37:32,965 --> 00:37:34,448 of what we were potentially seeing 952 00:37:34,517 --> 00:37:36,448 with the-the other orbs during the night. 953 00:37:36,517 --> 00:37:38,965 Yeah, the orange orb that we saw with the drones. 954 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,379 There is a similarity. 955 00:37:49,586 --> 00:37:51,689 TRAVIS: One of the things that sticks out to me about this, 956 00:37:51,689 --> 00:37:53,758 Kaleb, you're right, is this dark spot in the front of it. 957 00:37:53,758 --> 00:37:57,620 That orb, that-that orange orb that we saw that night 958 00:37:57,620 --> 00:37:58,965 clearly had a dark spot 959 00:37:58,965 --> 00:38:00,137 in the middle. 960 00:38:00,137 --> 00:38:02,344 This new metallic-looking UAP 961 00:38:02,344 --> 00:38:04,068 that was spotted in the south field 962 00:38:04,068 --> 00:38:06,310 does resemble a model I made 963 00:38:06,310 --> 00:38:08,448 of an orange orb that appeared 964 00:38:08,448 --> 00:38:10,275 during an experiment with a swarm of drones 965 00:38:10,275 --> 00:38:11,758 a few weeks ago. 966 00:38:12,793 --> 00:38:15,137 All right, we have drones armed, guys. 967 00:38:15,137 --> 00:38:17,000 Look at that. 968 00:38:18,206 --> 00:38:20,068 KALEB: We got something right there. 969 00:38:20,068 --> 00:38:21,793 Right where, right where? 970 00:38:21,793 --> 00:38:23,896 Yeah, it is. That's it right there. 971 00:38:23,896 --> 00:38:27,482 It clearly looks like it's two halves, 972 00:38:27,482 --> 00:38:28,551 and looking at it, it looks like it actually 973 00:38:28,551 --> 00:38:30,241 has an indention, doesn't it? 974 00:38:30,241 --> 00:38:32,000 There's some dark spot to it. 975 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,000 From modeling that, I put this together. 976 00:38:36,034 --> 00:38:39,344 And, uh, this is kind of my idea of what it looks like. 977 00:38:39,344 --> 00:38:41,896 Why don't I bring that up for comparison? 978 00:38:42,793 --> 00:38:45,551 TRAVIS: If you kind of compare that to that, 979 00:38:45,551 --> 00:38:47,344 -there is a similarity. -KALEB: Yeah. 980 00:38:49,068 --> 00:38:51,172 THOMAS: We definitely need to get to the bottom of this 981 00:38:51,172 --> 00:38:55,517 because that is the direction that that burnt post is at. 982 00:38:55,517 --> 00:38:57,551 Is something like that going to generate 983 00:38:57,551 --> 00:38:59,310 the type of heat to do that? 984 00:38:59,310 --> 00:39:00,586 THOMAS: Maybe? 985 00:39:00,586 --> 00:39:01,931 BRYANT: And who's to say what this thing 986 00:39:01,931 --> 00:39:03,655 looks like at night. 987 00:39:03,655 --> 00:39:05,068 THOMAS: I mean, the interesting thing about 988 00:39:05,068 --> 00:39:06,862 that burnt fence post is, we found it 989 00:39:06,862 --> 00:39:09,793 after we saw that bright purple flash 990 00:39:09,793 --> 00:39:12,034 -down there in the southern part. -Yup. 991 00:39:12,034 --> 00:39:13,827 Yeah. 992 00:39:14,896 --> 00:39:16,551 TRAVIS: We might have caught something here in the middle of the day. 993 00:39:16,551 --> 00:39:18,137 BRYANT: Right, which is amazing. 994 00:39:18,137 --> 00:39:21,000 What I find fascinating about this orb 995 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,620 is, it's there one second and it's gone so quickly. 996 00:39:23,620 --> 00:39:25,586 It must be moving at a high rate of speed, 997 00:39:25,586 --> 00:39:27,793 and it just so happens it's in the same area 998 00:39:27,793 --> 00:39:28,965 where we found this strange 999 00:39:28,965 --> 00:39:31,000 burnt post and a dead deer. 1000 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,896 Are they related somehow? I don't know, 1001 00:39:32,896 --> 00:39:34,413 but it's really strange. 1002 00:39:34,413 --> 00:39:36,655 I think if this shows us anything, it's that, 1003 00:39:36,655 --> 00:39:39,172 look, we've had quite a few different incidents 1004 00:39:39,172 --> 00:39:41,000 happen down on that part of the property 1005 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,482 in a very short period of time. 1006 00:39:42,482 --> 00:39:44,517 I think, if anything, that shows us 1007 00:39:44,517 --> 00:39:46,206 that we need to deploy 1008 00:39:46,206 --> 00:39:48,758 some more assets down there 1009 00:39:48,758 --> 00:39:50,620 and, uh, instrument that side of the property out 1010 00:39:50,620 --> 00:39:51,827 a little bit better. 1011 00:39:51,827 --> 00:39:53,586 KALEB: And I'll go poke around 1012 00:39:53,586 --> 00:39:56,000 out there some more and see if I can't find anything. 1013 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,586 Yeah, we just need to up the amount of time 1014 00:39:57,586 --> 00:39:59,413 we spend there, at least in the short term. 1015 00:39:59,413 --> 00:40:01,655 Given that, I mean, if this truly is 1016 00:40:01,655 --> 00:40:03,068 happening in broad daylight... 1017 00:40:03,068 --> 00:40:04,551 -Mm-hmm. -...I mean, that's something, 1018 00:40:04,551 --> 00:40:07,517 definitely, we need to get more eyes on. 1019 00:40:07,517 --> 00:40:08,655 And, you know, if it takes it, 1020 00:40:08,655 --> 00:40:10,034 we could even just keep a vigil. 1021 00:40:10,034 --> 00:40:12,103 Physically go down there and just watch. 1022 00:40:13,241 --> 00:40:16,586 TRAVIS: Yeah, keep an eye on that south field. 1023 00:40:16,586 --> 00:40:18,241 BRYANT: I agree. I'm for it. 1024 00:40:18,241 --> 00:40:20,758 -Well, thanks, guys. -TRAVIS: Thank you, guys. 1025 00:40:20,758 --> 00:40:22,137 -Okay, thanks, guys. -All right. 1026 00:40:22,137 --> 00:40:23,206 Well, I'm gonna leave you with it, Erik. 1027 00:40:23,206 --> 00:40:25,517 THOMAS: Interesting find. 1028 00:40:27,517 --> 00:40:30,000 ERIK: We're dealing with things on a scale 1029 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,793 of 512 acres of ranch here. 1030 00:40:32,793 --> 00:40:35,793 We have a few known hot spots, 1031 00:40:35,793 --> 00:40:37,241 but we have no idea 1032 00:40:37,241 --> 00:40:39,448 whether effects such as we've witnessed here 1033 00:40:39,448 --> 00:40:42,827 might play out in other regions of the property. 1034 00:40:42,827 --> 00:40:46,448 TRAVIS: Since I've started working on Skinwalker Ranch, 1035 00:40:46,448 --> 00:40:48,344 there has always been this idea 1036 00:40:48,344 --> 00:40:51,034 that it responds to certain individuals. 1037 00:40:51,034 --> 00:40:54,862 We still don't know why, who or how. 1038 00:40:54,862 --> 00:40:57,137 As we continue this investigation, 1039 00:40:57,137 --> 00:41:00,586 hopefully we'll learn more about these strange mysteries. 1040 00:41:00,586 --> 00:41:02,241 BRANDON: Never before 1041 00:41:02,241 --> 00:41:04,413 have we seen scientific equipment 1042 00:41:04,413 --> 00:41:08,000 and personnel dedicated to finding the answers. 1043 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,655 There isn't another private piece of property 1044 00:41:12,655 --> 00:41:17,689 that has this degree of scientific research. 1045 00:41:18,482 --> 00:41:21,000 We don't know what lies in store. 1046 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,862 We're in uncharted territory. 1047 00:41:24,034 --> 00:41:27,758 But I am more willing than ever 1048 00:41:27,758 --> 00:41:32,000 to take the risk, to explore the unknown, 1049 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,241 to discover the secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 1050 00:41:38,034 --> 00:41:40,310 Erik was telling us that you got some new equipment 1051 00:41:40,310 --> 00:41:44,000 that can help us identify something underneath the ground. 1052 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,172 Multispectral. 1053 00:41:45,172 --> 00:41:47,517 There's some interesting stuff. 1054 00:41:47,517 --> 00:41:48,655 I've been itching to show it to you. 1055 00:41:48,655 --> 00:41:49,620 TRAVIS: By the bait pen, 1056 00:41:49,620 --> 00:41:51,310 there are three circles. 1057 00:41:51,310 --> 00:41:53,206 THOMAS: So I'll make some arrangements 1058 00:41:53,206 --> 00:41:55,172 and we'll get an excavator out here 1059 00:41:55,172 --> 00:41:56,586 and we'll go out and dig. 1060 00:41:56,586 --> 00:41:58,000 Oh, whoa. Wait a minute... 1061 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,103 Hey, guys, y'all come look at this. 1062 00:42:00,103 --> 00:42:01,586 It's hard for me to believe 1063 00:42:01,586 --> 00:42:03,413 that's Mother Nature. 80089

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