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BRYANT: Boy, that thing
sounds like it's hitting
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-something hard.
-AARON: It could be...
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maybe a dome.
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There is something
in the mesa right there.
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Whatever this is
is as tall as the mesa.
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THOMAS:
Whoa. What was that
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purple light over there?
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I'm gonna head down.
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We need to know if this is
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-a reaction to that rocket.
-What is that?
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Holy crap, it looks
like it's following Thomas.
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-KALEB: Looks like a deer.
-THOMAS: Look at this.
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What the heck would
have burned this post?
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You know what it looks like?
Like something just flew
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right through it.
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NARRATOR:
There is a ranch
in Northern Utah.
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It is considered the epicenter
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of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
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animal mutilations,
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bizarre UFO sightings
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and unusual energies that have
proven harmful to humans.
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For 20 years,
the federal government
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tried to find answers
and failed.
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Now a new team
of dedicated scientists,
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researchers and experts
has taken over.
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They are determined to solve
the mystery and reveal...
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...The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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When was the last time
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you were at the ranch, Jay?
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-Uh, about 11 years ago.
-11 years ago.
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A lot's changed in 11 years.
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I bet a lot has changed.
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Over the past couple
of months our team
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has experienced more
unexplainable phenomena
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on Skinwalker Ranch
than ever before.
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So, while we're working
out a new strategy
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to determine just what
the two possibly metallic,
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dome-shaped and
vertical anomalies
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we've discovered
inside the mesa are,
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I've decided it's time to
invite a colleague of mine here
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who has his own incredible
history with the ranch--
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Jay Stratton.
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The first time
you came out here,
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you were probably pretty
skeptical, as I was.
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-I was 100% skeptical.
-Me, too, man.
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I didn't believe none of it.
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Jay was not only
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a career defense
intelligence official
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for the federal government,
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but he was also my former boss
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in the Unidentified
Aerial Phenomena Task Force.
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And, between 2007 and 2011,
he helped create and run
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a government program
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with former Skinwalker Ranch
owner Robert Bigelow
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to investigate
the bizarre phenomena
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happening on the property.
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JAY:
So I came out 100% skeptical,
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with the stories in mind,
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but-but wanting to see
something for myself,
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and the ranch didn't disappoint.
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Right.
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JAY:
I started working
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this topic in 2005.
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And I came into the topic
because it was part of my job.
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As the Chief of Air
and Space Warfare
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at the Defense
Intelligence Agency,
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I was dealing with
threats to U.S. platforms
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from foreign adversaries,
highly technical capabilities.
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I fell into a point where I had
to get really smart on UFOs,
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and there was nobody
to turn to.
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So I kind of became that guy,
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not by design, not-not
something I was looking for.
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I've briefed and provided
written assessments
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all the way
to the highest levels
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of the executive branch
and the legislative branch.
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I like to think
I've got a little bit
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of credibility on this topic.
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2007, we built this
contractual relationship
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with Mr. Robert Bigelow,
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and the ranch
became a contracted
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Defense Intelligence Agency
observation point.
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And I came out here to see
things firsthand in 2009.
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Over those years, I've seen a
lot of things I
can't explain.
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And I'm out here again
to do this research
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and hopefully better
understand this phenomena.
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It did take a lot of thought
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and discussion with the family
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if I would do this again,
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just because of all the activity
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and everything else
that's out here, you know?
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-Right.
-There's-there's a risk,
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but to me
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the investigation
is more important
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and too important,
so I really want to
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continue down that path
of trying to get answers.
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There is an accepted risk
in coming out here.
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You know, no one knows
what could happen.
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TRAVIS:
We're about to move into
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-the ranch property here.
-JAY: All right.
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This sounds crazy,
but the ranch
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reacts differently to me
than it does others.
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Some people have a lot
of reaction out here
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and some have none.
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I really had to consider that
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and talk to my wife
and talk to my kids.
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You know, I feel the same.
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I think that there's
a moral imperative to this.
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I think this is
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extremely important
and could be
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one of the most important things
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in human history.
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Absolutely.
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The ranch itself has been
a big part of my life.
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It's because of the ranch
that Travis and I came together
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in a small room in the Pentagon
to talk about the phenomenon,
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and we really accomplished
a lot in a short period of time.
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We see each other
as-as valued teammates.
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We enjoy working together.
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We think we can do some
really good things together.
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TRAVIS:
All right,
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so we're going to get out
and we'll take you in
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-and show you the
command center.
-Cool.
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TRAVIS: I want you all
to meet Jay Stratton.
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-ERIK: Good to meet you.
-THOMAS: Welcome back.
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TRAVIS:
So, I've told them
all about you, of course.
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So, what I'd like to hear
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is what events happened
when you were here
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that you can describe in
as much detail as you can,
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so we can determine
if we've seen similar events.
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Absolutely.
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And have similar data that
compares to what you've seen.
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So, when I came out here,
the first-first trip
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out here, I was standing out,
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uh, kind of in
the triangle area,
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was just randomly taking
photographs and things.
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Lo and behold, right over
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the mesa, there was
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an aircraft, craft or whatever
you want to call it.
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UAP, now I would say, uh,
which I-I coined that term.
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What? You gave us that term.
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-So, I created "UAP."
-Yes, you can blame
Jay for that, right?
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-I didn't know that.
-JAY: Because I needed to
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get people away from "UFO"
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because of the connotations
of little green men.
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So, you know, standing
there, looking up,
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and over the mesa
was this dart-like craft,
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I call it like
a really tight triangle,
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uh, kind of, kind of coming in.
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He was level the whole time,
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and shot across,
and I lost track of it.
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TRAVIS:
During our investigation
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here on Skinwalker Ranch,
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we've seen a number
of UAPs appear
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and disappear in the skies
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But two years ago,
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we saw one right above the mesa
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that sounds a lot like
what Jay witnessed.
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Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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What is that right there?
Right... Yeah.
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-ERIK: You seeing that?
-Yes, yeah.
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-Back up a couple frames.
-ERIK: All right.
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TRAVIS: You guys see?
Look. Right here. See this?
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-BRYANT: What is that?
-TRAVIS: I don't know yet.
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It appears there and then right
there, right above the mesa.
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BRYANT:
Right above the mesa.
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TRAVIS:
Could we be seeing
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the same kind of
phenomena that Jay
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and members of the Bigelow
team experienced back in 2009?
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The similarities are striking.
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And another example,
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I think it was around 11:30
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at night. As we were out
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on that back deck one time,
I think there were four of us,
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playing with a laser
and doing other things.
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Uh, you know it
was late and, uh,
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we observed a light on the mesa,
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with none of us doing anything.
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It was about the same spot
where we had the laser.
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And I don't remember
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exactly who saw what,
but one of us saw a circle,
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one saw a triangle,
one saw a square, you know.
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You're seeing different shapes.
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There may be
a physiological explanation
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for that, I don't know,
but we all saw
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distinctly different shapes
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of that same light.
It's like it's
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giving a demonstration
for each one of us separately.
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TRAVIS:
Since I joined
this investigation,
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the mesa has been
a major hot spot
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of unexplainable phenomena.
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For example, back in 2018...
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...Erik Bard captured
surveillance footage
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of some very bizarre lights
moving across the mesa,
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and even a beam of light
emitting from it.
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Again, I think it was
around 11:30 at night,
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and three of us were
walking down a path
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joking with each other.
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All of a sudden, we got quiet,
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and that's because
we got to a point,
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and we could feel
the temperature change.
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And as we moved forward
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to Homestead Two,
it got colder and colder.
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There was a tree
probably 300 yards or so
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shy of the Homestead Two.
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The moon was real bright
and it was shining,
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it cast a shadow
across that tree,
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drawing a line on the road.
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Now, one of my
teammates was saying
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that we can't cross that line.
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And we all had
the attitude, you know,
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"Screw that,
we're going." Right?
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We could not cross that line
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no matter how hard we tried.
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First thing we felt was fear,
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and one of my teammates
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looked up and he saw a dark mass
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in the top of Homestead Two,
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like a shadow figure or
something looking back at us.
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And basically, that was...
We felt like
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whatever was going on down
there, we wanted to see it,
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you know, we wanted to be there.
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There is so much in
this story. I have heard
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a version of this
story for years.
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I didn't know, I couldn't know,
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-that it was you.
-It was, yeah.
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One thing I've got to tell you,
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just, uh, for academic
honesty and ethics,
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is that, uh,
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we're going to use you today
as part of an experiment.
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But I'm not going to
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tell you what that experiment is
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until afterwards 'cause
I don't want to taint
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the outcome of the experiment.
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Right.
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I've worked with Jay
for several years now,
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and I've heard him say
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many times how he
strongly believes
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Skinwalker Ranch seemed
to react to his presence.
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When I first came here,
Thomas Winterton
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also told me he believed
the property reacted
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more to certain
people than others.
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So that gave Erik and I an idea
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to see if we could
actually prove it.
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The word "bait" comes to mind.
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You won't be in any danger.
We're not making you...
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You're not shark bait
or anything like that, right?
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No, I trust you guys. Yeah.
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Well, I appreciate that.
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So, we're gonna go on a tour
of the ranch in a little bit,
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and you tell us about
the things you'd seen
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and so on, and we'll be
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taking data while
we're doing that.
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And then, afterwards,
we'll tell you
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what type of data
and that sort of thing.
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Okay, yeah.
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TRAVIS:
Erik and I have come up
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with an experiment to test
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if the ranch reacts to Jay
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being back here after 11 years.
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And if his presence does
stimulate phenomena to occur,
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can we identify what it is?
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That's what
we'd like to find out.
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Again, the investigation's
important.
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ERIK:
Obviously it makes
a lot of sense for us
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to study very carefully
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anything that our
instruments can detect
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as we bring Jay
onto the property
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and take him to certain
points of interest
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from his experience,
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as well as to determine
whether the ranch
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would respond to
the novelty of his presence.
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Well, I really like this plan.
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You know, we've got a course
laid out for ourselves.
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We've got some instruments
that we want to take with us,
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so we should go get
the instruments prepared
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and, uh, we'll head out.
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TRAVIS:
All right, we'll
meet you at the vehicles.
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TRAVIS: I figured
we could put it on the hood.
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Here, I've got...
I've got some foam.
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Yeah, we don't want
to scratch it.
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It's a common theory
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that Skinwalker Ranch
responds to the presence
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of certain people.
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So we're going to drive
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former ranch investigator
Jay Stratton
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around to the hot spots
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where he experienced
really bizarre phenomena
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when he was a part of
the Bigelow investigation
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more than a decade ago.
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We'll see if him coming
back to the property
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causes strange things to happen.
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-That ain't going anywhere.
-That's good, yeah.
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So, I've got both of these
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GPS trackers running
and data logging.
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-Okay. All right.
-We should be
good to go, guys.
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TRAVIS:
Erik has outfitted the Jeep
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with GPS sensors,
gamma ray detectors,
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and the spectrum analyzer
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so we can continuously scan
for strange energy spikes
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and pinpoint the locations
where anything
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out of the ordinary
might occur.
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I'll go jump in the black.
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-All right, you gonna
follow behind?
-Yep.
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After our tour with Jay,
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we'll duplicate the exact route
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without him on the property.
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That will allow us to compare
the collected data sets
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to see if there really is
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a measurable difference
between the two.
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-You all in?
-THOMAS: You are
cleared for take-off.
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TRAVIS:
We'll start the tour
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in the eastern portion
of the ranch.
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From there we'll
head to the triangle,
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travel west past
the mesa drill site,
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and then on to Homestead Two.
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If you see something
you want to tell us about
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or ask us questions about,
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just say something
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and we'll stop
and we'll do that.
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THOMAS:
I want to know exactly
where you were at
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with that apparition
or whatever it was.
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TRAVIS:
Yeah, me, too.
All right, Jay,
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-now when we get to where...
-Yeah.
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...you think it's the spot,
you just stop us.
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JAY:
I'm pretty sure it was
that tree right there.
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-You want to stop here?
-Yeah, I mean,
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this is about the right spot.
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TRAVIS:
All right.
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-So, you think it's this way?
-Yep.
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No, I think we're
right at about the spot
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where we started
to feel the fear.
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-Right in here?
-Yeah.
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Where do you think the line was
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-in the road...
-It was at that tree.
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-That tree?
-Yep.
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I'm pretty sure that's the tree.
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The first night
we were on the ranch,
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it was about 11:30 at night,
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and myself and my two
teammates went for a walk.
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So, we walked down the road,
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made our way around the curve
towards Homestead Two.
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And as we made that turn,
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there's a little tree
casting a shadow,
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a line across the road,
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and as we pushed
towards that line,
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I said, "Do you guys
feel that?"
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And immediately
one of my teammates said,
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"Yeah, the hair's standing up
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on the back of my neck."
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Feeling the fear
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about right here,
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and the temperature inversion
was about right here, too.
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TRAVIS:
Really?
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JAY:
As we walk closer
to Homestead Two,
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we felt a drastic drop
in temperature.
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And it was a wall.
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You could put
your arm through it,
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and you could feel
the cold versus the heat.
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It was a drastic drop,
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something that
just didn't belong.
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As soon as we come
around the corner,
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the feeling was,
"Turn around, go back."
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On the second floor
of Homestead Two,
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through the night
vision device,
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we saw what resembled
a dark, shadowy figure.
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I want to ask about
the dark apparition.
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-Can you point to where it was?
-Absolutely.
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Let's walk and see.
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JAY:
That upper area right there.
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-Yeah.
-KALEB: Up in there?
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Yep.
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We could see in the distance
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what looked like a shadow figure
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or, you know, a person,
a dark person
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standing on the second floor
of this structure,
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kind of in the middle,
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staring right back at us.
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What's really interesting
is that there is no floor there.
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And if you saw something
standing in the middle,
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that's kind of bizarre.
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And you interpreted it
as, basically, human form?
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It would have been
pretty tall, though.
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Uh, yeah.
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TRAVIS:
Now, while no one on our team
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has seen such a distinct
shadowy figure
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like what Jay described,
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we did have a very similar
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experience at Homestead Two
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back in 2020.
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[speaking Hebrew]
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TRAVIS:
When my friend
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Rabbi Ariel Tzadok
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performed
an ancient Hebrew prayer
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that was actually designed
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for opening
interdimensional portals,
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our thermal cameras
captured a temperature vortex
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forming near the second floor
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of Homestead Two, right where
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Jay saw that
shadowy figure appear.
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That's... that is odd.
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00:15:32,310 --> 00:15:34,103
Focus on this part right here.
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TRAVIS:
Then, when Erik reviewed
the thermal footage,
403
00:15:36,827 --> 00:15:40,172
he spotted something small and
colder than its surroundings
404
00:15:40,172 --> 00:15:42,172
moving very fast
across the road
405
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in front of the homestead.
406
00:15:44,034 --> 00:15:45,655
-Oh. Oh.
-Ho. Whoa.
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-What was that?
-Right there, that.
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TRAVIS: Could this be
the same type of phenomena
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that Jay and his
colleagues witnessed here
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over ten years ago?
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We can't say for sure,
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but we do know
more investigation
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at Homestead Two
is an absolute must.
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Kaleb, you gonna
meet us down the road?
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00:16:02,034 --> 00:16:04,965
After we visited the last
stop on our ranch tour
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with Jay and got the data
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00:16:06,448 --> 00:16:08,241
for the first part
of the experiment...
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ERIK: Jay, I got to tell you,
it has been fantastic
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hearing what you've got
to share.
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TRAVIS:
...we finished up with him
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and had him leave the ranch.
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00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,655
Then we reset the equipment
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because we planned to duplicate
the experiment the next day
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to collect a new data set.
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JAY:
The investigation continues.
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TRAVIS: Jay is completely
off the ranch now.
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00:16:32,793 --> 00:16:34,034
Everything's there, just
like when he was with us,
428
00:16:34,034 --> 00:16:35,586
-right?
-Yeah.
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TRAVIS:
Now that we've got the data
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from the first part of our
ranch experiment with Jay...
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We'll see if we see any
changes in the instruments.
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...we'll drive
the exact same route,
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with all the same
equipment as yesterday.
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We'll then compare
the data sets
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and look for any
different measurements.
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KALEB:
What's up, dude?
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TRAVIS:
While Erik, Thomas, and I
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conducted the second part
of the Jay Stratton experiment,
439
00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,034
Dragon and Kaleb
met with Don Mitchell.
440
00:16:59,034 --> 00:17:00,965
Dragon, Kaleb.
441
00:17:00,965 --> 00:17:04,724
TRAVIS:
He's the local Uinta Basin Fire
Management Officer and Chief
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00:17:04,793 --> 00:17:07,655
of the Wildlife Division for
the Bureau of Indian Affairs.
443
00:17:07,655 --> 00:17:10,000
We were hoping
that Don might be able
444
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to tell us more
about the burn marks
445
00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,448
on the fence post
we found last week.
446
00:17:14,448 --> 00:17:17,655
You go ahead and take
shotgun, Don. It's fine.
447
00:17:18,586 --> 00:17:20,137
TRAVIS:
But since he is a senior member
448
00:17:20,137 --> 00:17:22,965
of the Eastern Shoshone
tribe, we also wondered
449
00:17:22,965 --> 00:17:26,241
if he could offer any insight
about the recent phenomena
450
00:17:26,241 --> 00:17:28,310
that we've been experiencing
in the south field.
451
00:17:31,172 --> 00:17:34,448
Whoa, what was that
purple light over there?
452
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KALEB:
We were doing some experiments
453
00:17:35,862 --> 00:17:37,965
with rockets, and Thomas saw
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a purple light
here in the south field.
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THOMAS:
What is that?
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KALEB: That led us to
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placing game cameras
in these locations,
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and as we were
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00:17:45,482 --> 00:17:48,000
coming into this
particular area
460
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to put a game camera up,
we find a burnt post.
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00:17:50,310 --> 00:17:51,758
THOMAS:
What the heck would have
462
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burned this post?
463
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KALEB:
And there just so happens
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to also be a deceased deer
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in this exact same area.
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That one's been
torn apart by something.
467
00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,344
We started looking
around a little bit,
468
00:18:03,413 --> 00:18:04,482
and that's where
we found this post.
469
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And you can see right there,
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-it's got that
little curve in it.
-DON: Okay.
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BRYANT:
Is there anything in
particular we should look for?
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DON:
I would look for
any other burnt debris
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that might have projected out.
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And, Kaleb, there
was no other tracks?
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We didn't see
any vehicle tracks,
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no human tracks, nothing.
477
00:18:25,586 --> 00:18:27,758
Kind of getting
a-a feeling or a sense
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of, kind of, heaviness.
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Protecting of
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an area is most crucial,
481
00:18:34,172 --> 00:18:36,448
so let's hold here
for just a sec.
482
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I'm just gonna do an offering
483
00:18:38,931 --> 00:18:41,793
of some tobacco
484
00:18:41,793 --> 00:18:45,241
and, uh, just ask the creator,
please watch over us.
485
00:18:45,310 --> 00:18:47,448
[speaking Shoshone]
486
00:18:49,379 --> 00:18:52,655
As a member of
the Eastern Shoshone tribe,
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I do a cultural blessing
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and give an offering
of tobacco.
489
00:18:59,068 --> 00:19:01,241
It's always best to give
some type of offering, um,
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for protection and understanding
491
00:19:03,413 --> 00:19:05,758
before going in
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and onto the ground
to investigate.
493
00:19:12,689 --> 00:19:15,482
Okay, Kaleb, Dragon,
let's, uh...
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Let's continue on here.
495
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What is strikingly odd
496
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is this line that
goes up and around,
497
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and where is the rest of it?
498
00:19:32,896 --> 00:19:34,000
Our initial
thought is lightning.
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But I'd assume, if we had
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a lightning strike here,
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we'd see definitely more damage
502
00:19:40,275 --> 00:19:41,758
on the ground.
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DON:
We would definitely see debris.
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As you can see, in the
smoldering phase of this,
505
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that there's no blackening
506
00:19:49,517 --> 00:19:53,793
that comes up around
the post in any direction.
507
00:19:53,793 --> 00:19:55,586
Like, if we put a candle here,
508
00:19:55,586 --> 00:19:57,965
and it started
to smolder right here,
509
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,241
we would get that black
smoke residue of that carbon
510
00:20:02,241 --> 00:20:03,862
on to the post.
511
00:20:03,862 --> 00:20:05,655
BRYANT:
So, if I'm
understanding correctly,
512
00:20:05,655 --> 00:20:07,137
based off of what you're saying,
513
00:20:07,137 --> 00:20:10,793
it seems as though it was
something extremely hot
514
00:20:10,793 --> 00:20:12,793
that scorched it but it never
515
00:20:12,793 --> 00:20:14,448
-really incinerated, correct?
-Correct.
516
00:20:15,689 --> 00:20:17,793
But I can tell you,
this is not arson,
517
00:20:17,793 --> 00:20:19,379
this is not chemical,
518
00:20:19,379 --> 00:20:22,448
and this, in my opinion,
is not lightning.
519
00:20:23,793 --> 00:20:25,655
BRYANT:
So, what is it, then?
520
00:20:26,586 --> 00:20:29,448
That's the million-dollar
question, Dragon.
521
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,965
KALEB: Have you seen
anything like this before?
522
00:20:39,896 --> 00:20:41,551
I have seen only
523
00:20:41,620 --> 00:20:44,482
man-made of something
524
00:20:44,482 --> 00:20:46,379
of this nature,
'cause of the line,
525
00:20:46,379 --> 00:20:48,206
through plasma cutting.
526
00:20:49,137 --> 00:20:50,379
It's hard to speculate,
527
00:20:50,379 --> 00:20:52,862
but from the different areas of
528
00:20:52,931 --> 00:20:56,000
spontaneous combustion that
I've dealt with in my career,
529
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,000
and in fire investigations,
530
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,655
it was some type
of extreme heat.
531
00:21:03,034 --> 00:21:05,758
A third of that post is missing.
532
00:21:05,758 --> 00:21:07,758
It is very bizarre.
533
00:21:09,275 --> 00:21:11,000
When you kind of look at this,
534
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,241
you see that there's
this curve in that post
535
00:21:13,241 --> 00:21:14,793
that's been taken out.
536
00:21:14,793 --> 00:21:17,137
As if something came through it
537
00:21:17,137 --> 00:21:19,896
and caused this damage,
and, yeah, there's no debris.
538
00:21:19,896 --> 00:21:22,862
So, how hot would it
have to be to just
539
00:21:22,931 --> 00:21:25,068
-totally vaporize...
-Vaporize it.
540
00:21:25,068 --> 00:21:28,448
You're talking about
780 to 800 degrees.
541
00:21:28,448 --> 00:21:30,896
BRYANT:
Right, if there's
that kind of a heat signature,
542
00:21:30,896 --> 00:21:33,965
just the radiated heat
would cause damage
543
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,551
to this green foliage,
544
00:21:35,620 --> 00:21:37,034
and it looks like none of it
545
00:21:37,034 --> 00:21:38,482
has been exposed to
any of the extreme heat.
546
00:21:38,482 --> 00:21:39,758
DON:
Correct.
547
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,344
So, we know this is
hot as lightning,
548
00:21:42,344 --> 00:21:44,000
but it's not lightning.
549
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,655
It's not man-made.
550
00:21:45,724 --> 00:21:47,034
-DON: Correct.
-KALEB: So, what could do that?
551
00:21:47,034 --> 00:21:51,655
I'll only touch on it
just-just briefly
552
00:21:51,724 --> 00:21:54,344
because this is
definitely strange.
553
00:21:54,413 --> 00:21:55,758
Speaking culturally,
554
00:21:55,758 --> 00:21:58,068
it would go back to
555
00:21:58,068 --> 00:22:00,551
what the ranch is named after.
556
00:22:00,620 --> 00:22:02,758
-Okay.
-Okay.
557
00:22:02,758 --> 00:22:05,000
I'm sorry,
I don't feel comfortable...
558
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,965
-KALEB: You're fine.
-...speaking on that,
on that portion.
559
00:22:06,965 --> 00:22:09,448
I don't want to breach
anything that is--
560
00:22:09,448 --> 00:22:11,000
-that makes you uncomfortable.
-But we will continue on.
561
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,965
KALEB:
I think it's really valuable
562
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,965
and important that
we have Native Americans
563
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,655
coming to the property
564
00:22:16,724 --> 00:22:19,275
because there is
a lot of history here
565
00:22:19,275 --> 00:22:20,965
and this is
a different viewpoint
566
00:22:20,965 --> 00:22:22,379
that we really
don't get a lot of.
567
00:22:22,379 --> 00:22:24,137
It's just so strange.
568
00:22:24,137 --> 00:22:25,482
Yes.
569
00:22:25,482 --> 00:22:27,103
KALEB:
Some Native Americans
570
00:22:27,103 --> 00:22:29,482
aren't willing to speak
of any kind of relation
571
00:22:29,482 --> 00:22:31,137
when it comes to
Skinwalker Ranch
572
00:22:31,137 --> 00:22:33,793
or anything involving
the word "skinwalker."
573
00:22:33,793 --> 00:22:35,103
Bringing attention to
574
00:22:35,103 --> 00:22:36,965
the skinwalker
is very bad medicine,
575
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,586
and it makes them
very uncomfortable
576
00:22:38,586 --> 00:22:40,379
because they don't
want to draw anything
577
00:22:40,379 --> 00:22:42,241
of that energy into their life.
578
00:22:42,241 --> 00:22:44,275
Don, I can't thank you enough
for coming out here
579
00:22:44,275 --> 00:22:46,448
and lending your
expertise, both from
580
00:22:46,517 --> 00:22:48,068
your professional
side of things,
581
00:22:48,068 --> 00:22:50,103
as well as your
spiritual side of things,
582
00:22:50,103 --> 00:22:52,448
and offering
a blessing of protection.
583
00:22:52,448 --> 00:22:54,448
I felt good,
and hopefully this will
584
00:22:54,517 --> 00:22:55,862
lend us to get more answers.
585
00:22:55,931 --> 00:22:58,000
Yes, you know, 'cause
how do you answer
586
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,862
the unanswerable?
587
00:22:59,862 --> 00:23:01,965
And all we can do is,
as we peel back that veil
588
00:23:01,965 --> 00:23:04,103
and peel that onion
a little bit
589
00:23:04,103 --> 00:23:05,758
and move forward.
590
00:23:05,827 --> 00:23:06,862
Thank you, Dragon.
591
00:23:06,862 --> 00:23:08,655
-Thank you.
-Thanks, Don.
592
00:23:17,172 --> 00:23:18,241
TRAVIS:
Hey, Erik,
593
00:23:18,241 --> 00:23:19,655
you got Jay
594
00:23:19,655 --> 00:23:21,758
-on the horn yet?
-Yeah, I have him.
595
00:23:21,758 --> 00:23:23,862
TRAVIS: The day after we
completed the control run
596
00:23:23,931 --> 00:23:25,689
of our two-part experiment
597
00:23:25,689 --> 00:23:28,482
with Jay Stratton, Erik
and I processed all the data
598
00:23:28,482 --> 00:23:30,965
and immediately arranged
a videoconference
599
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,000
to share the incredible results.
600
00:23:34,482 --> 00:23:35,551
Hey, Jay. How's it going?
601
00:23:35,551 --> 00:23:36,758
Hey, guys. How are you?
602
00:23:36,758 --> 00:23:37,965
TRAVIS:
All right.
603
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,551
So, in this experiment,
604
00:23:39,551 --> 00:23:42,482
what we did, Jay, is we put
605
00:23:42,482 --> 00:23:46,448
GPS sensors on the Jeep,
606
00:23:46,517 --> 00:23:48,000
we had a magnetic
field meter on there,
607
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,172
and we also had
608
00:23:50,172 --> 00:23:51,965
a Geiger counter in there
609
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,137
that we were data logging
through the entire time
610
00:23:54,137 --> 00:23:57,551
you got in the Jeep
and went on the tour.
611
00:23:57,620 --> 00:24:00,793
And we timed and logged
every step of the way
612
00:24:00,793 --> 00:24:02,275
and everything you did
613
00:24:02,275 --> 00:24:04,758
from the time we left
the command center.
614
00:24:04,758 --> 00:24:06,862
And then, after you
left the ranch,
615
00:24:06,862 --> 00:24:09,758
we did a control run.
616
00:24:09,758 --> 00:24:13,000
And then, when we got back,
Erik took the data,
617
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:17,137
compiled it all, and then
overlaid the two data sets.
618
00:24:17,137 --> 00:24:19,344
And you would think,
well, you know,
619
00:24:19,413 --> 00:24:20,965
what difference does that make?
620
00:24:20,965 --> 00:24:23,965
Well, we were wondering if,
since you were here
621
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,862
back in the Bigelow era
622
00:24:25,931 --> 00:24:27,896
and you had seen some things
when you were here,
623
00:24:27,896 --> 00:24:30,689
if maybe the ranch would respond
624
00:24:30,689 --> 00:24:32,862
or you would stimulate
a response or something.
625
00:24:32,862 --> 00:24:35,241
So that was the idea
for the experiment.
626
00:24:35,241 --> 00:24:37,482
I'm super excited to hear
627
00:24:37,482 --> 00:24:39,275
if there was a response,
628
00:24:39,275 --> 00:24:41,655
uh, so I think this is
the perfect experiment
629
00:24:41,724 --> 00:24:43,793
to try and see if there's
some type of connection
630
00:24:43,793 --> 00:24:45,586
that ranch or that area makes
631
00:24:45,586 --> 00:24:47,482
with individuals
coming out there.
632
00:24:47,482 --> 00:24:48,965
TRAVIS:
Well, uh,
633
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,689
with that said, Erik,
what do you think?
634
00:24:50,689 --> 00:24:52,137
Let's show him the data?
635
00:24:52,137 --> 00:24:53,655
Well, I think I should
probably run through
636
00:24:53,655 --> 00:24:55,344
the summary at least.
637
00:24:55,413 --> 00:24:56,862
You know, we have
different kinds of data,
638
00:24:56,862 --> 00:25:00,068
as Travis just took us through.
639
00:25:00,068 --> 00:25:04,344
So, to start with, I want
to look at the GPS trackers.
640
00:25:04,413 --> 00:25:06,586
So, I think what I'd like to do
641
00:25:06,586 --> 00:25:08,034
is a screen share...
642
00:25:08,034 --> 00:25:09,241
That'd be great.
643
00:25:09,310 --> 00:25:10,344
ERIK:
...and bring up
644
00:25:10,344 --> 00:25:13,862
the control tour that we did.
645
00:25:13,931 --> 00:25:16,448
TRAVIS:
Are you seeing all that, Jay?
646
00:25:16,517 --> 00:25:19,551
I see at least
the, uh, the initial.
647
00:25:19,551 --> 00:25:21,379
Perfect. So, of course,
this follows
648
00:25:21,379 --> 00:25:24,379
all of the roads that we took.
649
00:25:24,379 --> 00:25:26,862
And if you look at that,
it pretty much looks like
650
00:25:26,862 --> 00:25:28,344
exactly what we did.
651
00:25:28,413 --> 00:25:30,344
This was without you
here on the ranch.
652
00:25:30,344 --> 00:25:32,137
You were... You had
already gone home.
653
00:25:32,137 --> 00:25:33,965
This is what we
expected to see, so...
654
00:25:33,965 --> 00:25:37,379
Absolutely, that
looks complete...
655
00:25:37,379 --> 00:25:39,103
completely normal to me.
656
00:25:39,103 --> 00:25:41,551
Okay. Now, I'm going
to bring up the data
657
00:25:41,620 --> 00:25:43,689
generated during your visit.
658
00:25:43,689 --> 00:25:46,517
I've colored it red, of course.
659
00:25:48,241 --> 00:25:50,068
At first glance it,
you know, conforms
660
00:25:50,068 --> 00:25:52,344
to the same path.
661
00:25:53,172 --> 00:25:55,689
TRAVIS:
Do you notice anything
about the data yet?
662
00:25:55,689 --> 00:25:59,655
Well, it's-it's sparse,
there's a heck of a lot
663
00:25:59,724 --> 00:26:01,655
of missing data points.
664
00:26:01,655 --> 00:26:02,965
ERIK:
That does seem to be the case,
665
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,000
doesn't it?
666
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,068
And at this spot right here,
667
00:26:06,068 --> 00:26:07,965
that's the drill site.
668
00:26:07,965 --> 00:26:09,655
JAY:
We should be seeing a lot more
669
00:26:09,724 --> 00:26:12,068
-than we're seeing.
-TRAVIS: Yeah, you should be.
670
00:26:12,068 --> 00:26:13,448
ERIK:
Yeah, so, um,
671
00:26:13,448 --> 00:26:14,862
I don't know how to, uh,
672
00:26:14,862 --> 00:26:16,241
how to break it to you
except to show you.
673
00:26:19,551 --> 00:26:21,862
TRAVIS:
But now look where
the data actually is.
674
00:26:23,586 --> 00:26:26,551
The data went way underground.
675
00:26:26,620 --> 00:26:27,931
Wow.
676
00:26:29,379 --> 00:26:30,724
Well, that's amazing.
677
00:26:36,793 --> 00:26:38,137
TRAVIS:
Literally the only thing
678
00:26:38,137 --> 00:26:41,137
we changed in the experiment
679
00:26:41,137 --> 00:26:44,000
was the occupants of the car.
680
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,793
And the data
681
00:26:45,793 --> 00:26:47,896
goes nuts.
It went way underground.
682
00:26:47,896 --> 00:26:49,586
Wow.
683
00:26:49,586 --> 00:26:51,000
TRAVIS: And if you look,
684
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,862
this spot right here,
685
00:26:52,931 --> 00:26:55,344
that's the drill site.
686
00:26:55,413 --> 00:26:57,034
And then, when
you go to the next dip,
687
00:26:57,034 --> 00:27:00,344
that's where you stopped
and said this is the tree
688
00:27:00,413 --> 00:27:02,000
that you saw the thing
689
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,793
standing up at Homestead Two,
690
00:27:03,793 --> 00:27:05,655
and look how the data goes
691
00:27:05,655 --> 00:27:08,241
way deep underground there.
692
00:27:09,379 --> 00:27:10,551
How far is that, Erik?
693
00:27:10,551 --> 00:27:11,551
ERIK:
You know,
694
00:27:11,551 --> 00:27:13,000
if we use the mesa
695
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,655
as our scale reference,
we're looking at
696
00:27:14,724 --> 00:27:16,551
something, like, you know,
a thousand feet.
697
00:27:17,482 --> 00:27:19,000
This is amazing.
698
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,655
TRAVIS:
The GPS data
699
00:27:20,655 --> 00:27:22,068
from our experiment
with Jay Stratton
700
00:27:22,068 --> 00:27:23,965
is just plain crazy.
701
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,344
It shows that Jay
702
00:27:25,413 --> 00:27:26,689
went underground
703
00:27:26,689 --> 00:27:28,689
just after passing
the mesa drill site.
704
00:27:28,689 --> 00:27:32,551
Then, once he moved
closer to Homestead Two,
705
00:27:32,620 --> 00:27:36,000
it says he went over a thousand
feet below the surface.
706
00:27:36,896 --> 00:27:39,448
And what's really interesting
707
00:27:39,517 --> 00:27:41,448
is the control
is completely different.
708
00:27:41,448 --> 00:27:43,965
-Can you overlay 'em?
-I sure can.
709
00:27:45,896 --> 00:27:48,344
TRAVIS:
So, if you overlay
'em now and look,
710
00:27:48,344 --> 00:27:51,241
when you go
underneath the ground,
711
00:27:51,310 --> 00:27:53,379
none of the control data
is under the ground,
712
00:27:53,379 --> 00:27:56,241
but look at your path.
713
00:27:56,241 --> 00:27:57,689
JAY:
We're seeing something
714
00:27:57,689 --> 00:27:59,379
in that area
affecting the equipment,
715
00:27:59,379 --> 00:28:01,344
reacting to my presence
being there.
716
00:28:01,413 --> 00:28:04,000
That's amazing.
717
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,103
What could just you
being in the car
718
00:28:06,103 --> 00:28:10,344
do to a GPS sensor
to make it go haywire?
719
00:28:10,413 --> 00:28:12,448
I mean, when I was first
introduced to the ranch,
720
00:28:12,448 --> 00:28:13,965
folks were referring
to the ranch
721
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,655
as if it's
a person, uh, reacting.
722
00:28:18,793 --> 00:28:21,068
Obviously, I was highly
skeptical of any of that.
723
00:28:21,068 --> 00:28:23,068
Yet it's been
in my life so long
724
00:28:23,068 --> 00:28:24,965
that I'm comfortable
referring to the ranch
725
00:28:24,965 --> 00:28:27,172
as a... as a person now
726
00:28:27,172 --> 00:28:28,586
because I have certainly seen it
727
00:28:28,586 --> 00:28:30,655
react differently
to different people.
728
00:28:30,655 --> 00:28:31,965
TRAVIS:
So, the question is,
729
00:28:31,965 --> 00:28:34,000
does the ranch somehow, uh,
730
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,448
know you were here?
731
00:28:35,517 --> 00:28:37,965
Was it coupled,
entangled with you?
732
00:28:37,965 --> 00:28:39,206
Right.
733
00:28:40,068 --> 00:28:42,000
TRAVIS:
This data strongly suggests
734
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,793
that the ranch really
does react to individuals.
735
00:28:44,793 --> 00:28:46,586
But why some more than others?
736
00:28:46,586 --> 00:28:49,965
And why did the GPS sensors
suddenly go underground
737
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,551
just after Jay passed
the mesa drill site?
738
00:28:52,620 --> 00:28:55,241
Could the dome-shaped object
that we drilled up against
739
00:28:55,310 --> 00:28:58,103
deep inside the mesa
somehow be connected
740
00:28:58,103 --> 00:28:59,551
to the GPS data
741
00:28:59,551 --> 00:29:01,758
going a thousand feet
below the surface?
742
00:29:01,827 --> 00:29:03,655
At this point we don't know,
743
00:29:03,724 --> 00:29:06,275
but it seems like more
than just a coincidence.
744
00:29:06,275 --> 00:29:08,758
Jay, this is great.
745
00:29:08,827 --> 00:29:10,068
Uh, really appreciate
you being in our experiment.
746
00:29:10,068 --> 00:29:11,379
Oh, definitely.
747
00:29:11,379 --> 00:29:12,551
ERIK:
See you later, Jay.
748
00:29:12,620 --> 00:29:14,000
JAY:
Thanks, gents.
749
00:29:22,344 --> 00:29:26,758
TRAVIS: Well, the big
question still remains.
750
00:29:26,758 --> 00:29:29,551
How do we get inside the mesa?
751
00:29:29,620 --> 00:29:31,689
AARON: It's almost like
we're hitting something
752
00:29:31,689 --> 00:29:33,448
really, really hard.
753
00:29:33,517 --> 00:29:34,896
TRAVIS:
The last time we drilled
754
00:29:34,896 --> 00:29:36,758
from the bottom of the mesa,
755
00:29:36,827 --> 00:29:38,344
we weren't able to reach
the vertical
756
00:29:38,413 --> 00:29:40,965
and potentially metallic
object inside there.
757
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,448
So now we're gonna brainstorm
a new approach that might work.
758
00:29:44,448 --> 00:29:47,137
We're gonna have to drill
from the top of the mesa.
759
00:29:47,137 --> 00:29:50,241
The one thing we definitely
know is that it won't be easy.
760
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:53,034
Well, I sure am curious
about whatever it is that we hit
761
00:29:53,034 --> 00:29:55,482
that, number one, was so hard,
number two, didn't produce
762
00:29:55,482 --> 00:29:58,172
any friction against
that-that, uh, drill head,
763
00:29:58,172 --> 00:30:01,965
and, number three, caused
the change in the RF spectrum.
764
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,551
TRAVIS:
That to me is
765
00:30:03,620 --> 00:30:04,862
three pieces of data
766
00:30:04,931 --> 00:30:06,344
that are really
767
00:30:06,344 --> 00:30:08,551
phenomenal. I mean, why did it
768
00:30:08,551 --> 00:30:10,655
not grind that drill bit down?
769
00:30:10,655 --> 00:30:12,000
-KALEB: Yes.
-TRAVIS: That-that is amazing.
770
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,482
What kind of material
can do that?
771
00:30:14,482 --> 00:30:17,862
So, how could we
look inside the mesa?
772
00:30:17,931 --> 00:30:19,862
THOMAS:
I haven't found
773
00:30:19,862 --> 00:30:22,379
a place that we could
easily do that
774
00:30:22,379 --> 00:30:25,862
without completely
scarring it permanently.
775
00:30:25,931 --> 00:30:28,137
You know, Brandon made it
clear he doesn't want that.
776
00:30:28,137 --> 00:30:29,758
Personally, I don't
want to do that.
777
00:30:29,758 --> 00:30:31,172
So I've got
778
00:30:31,172 --> 00:30:33,172
a possible solution.
779
00:30:33,172 --> 00:30:35,379
I wonder if we brought
a portable drill in
780
00:30:35,379 --> 00:30:37,344
and tried to do just
a vertical shaft down
781
00:30:37,413 --> 00:30:39,965
and tried to go down on top
of it, to where we could get
782
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,137
-a camera down there.
-Yeah, and we could then maybe
783
00:30:42,137 --> 00:30:44,862
find if that hole is connected
to something somewhere.
784
00:30:44,931 --> 00:30:46,655
ERIK:
So, if we get directly above
785
00:30:46,655 --> 00:30:49,241
the place where
the drill head got stopped,
786
00:30:49,241 --> 00:30:50,758
I'd like to know exactly
787
00:30:50,758 --> 00:30:52,862
what did it
encounter right there,
788
00:30:52,931 --> 00:30:55,034
'cause we know we've got
something really hard there.
789
00:30:55,034 --> 00:30:58,241
I like your idea, Erik, of going
where the drill head stopped,
790
00:30:58,310 --> 00:31:00,172
'cause we know exactly
791
00:31:00,172 --> 00:31:01,241
where that bit was at.
792
00:31:01,310 --> 00:31:03,000
Oh, that's a great idea.
793
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,344
We need to do... Let's-let's
do that, that's a great idea.
794
00:31:06,275 --> 00:31:08,034
ERIK:
Well, I say we get back
795
00:31:08,034 --> 00:31:09,551
to the command center
and start planning how
796
00:31:09,551 --> 00:31:11,344
-we're going to pull this off.
-Yeah.
797
00:31:11,413 --> 00:31:13,448
KALEB:
I'm going to go
check the game cameras.
798
00:31:13,448 --> 00:31:15,206
ERIK:
Sounds like a plan.
799
00:31:23,586 --> 00:31:25,965
BRYANT: After the recent
incident that had Thomas
800
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,758
chasing off after some purple
light in the south field,
801
00:31:28,827 --> 00:31:31,965
we've deployed
these various game cameras.
802
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,068
I've asked Kaleb to go out
803
00:31:33,068 --> 00:31:34,551
and grab the cards from 'em
804
00:31:34,551 --> 00:31:37,448
to see if there's
anything that we see there
805
00:31:37,517 --> 00:31:39,344
that is strange or stands out.
806
00:31:42,068 --> 00:31:44,103
-Hey, Bryant.
-Hey, man.
807
00:31:44,103 --> 00:31:45,793
I got those cards
from those cameras.
808
00:31:45,793 --> 00:31:47,103
Yep. Okay, cool.
809
00:31:47,103 --> 00:31:48,551
-Let's check it out.
-All right.
810
00:31:49,275 --> 00:31:51,586
This is us
setting it up, looks like.
811
00:31:51,586 --> 00:31:52,793
How long have these
812
00:31:52,793 --> 00:31:54,482
-been out there?
-About a week.
813
00:31:54,482 --> 00:31:56,103
-Okay.
-About a week now.
814
00:31:56,103 --> 00:31:58,758
KALEB:
This is on the east facing west.
815
00:31:58,827 --> 00:32:00,137
BRYANT:
Okay.
816
00:32:01,068 --> 00:32:02,896
KALEB:
I'm not seeing anything
817
00:32:02,896 --> 00:32:05,000
-jumping out at me right now.
-No.
818
00:32:07,275 --> 00:32:09,965
BRYANT:
I'm surprised we haven't
seen any game of any kind yet.
819
00:32:09,965 --> 00:32:12,551
That's what I'm wondering.
What's setting off the cameras?
820
00:32:12,551 --> 00:32:13,827
Right.
821
00:32:17,689 --> 00:32:18,965
Whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
822
00:32:18,965 --> 00:32:20,379
-Back that up.
-You see that?
823
00:32:20,379 --> 00:32:22,103
Yeah, back that up.
What, what was that?
824
00:32:22,103 --> 00:32:24,068
KALEB:
I'm just running through it
825
00:32:24,068 --> 00:32:26,206
frame by frame.
826
00:32:30,689 --> 00:32:32,551
What?
827
00:32:33,344 --> 00:32:35,206
KALEB:
It's like a silver orb.
828
00:32:47,482 --> 00:32:49,275
Looked like a silver orb
or something.
829
00:32:49,275 --> 00:32:51,689
Well, it was something.
It was really quick.
830
00:32:51,689 --> 00:32:52,965
Do we have the possibility
to, like, pause it
831
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,000
and then like scrub through it?
832
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,758
KALEB:
Yeah.
833
00:32:57,241 --> 00:32:59,551
So this...
834
00:32:59,620 --> 00:33:03,793
this is gonna be
frame by frame here.
835
00:33:03,793 --> 00:33:07,000
Didn't you see it? It was like
some little quick flash there.
836
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,724
-I saw it over in
this area there. Yeah.
-Yeah.
837
00:33:13,482 --> 00:33:15,620
BRYANT:
Whoa, right there. Look at that.
838
00:33:17,034 --> 00:33:20,551
KALEB:
So, depending on
how far away that is...
839
00:33:20,620 --> 00:33:22,896
Yeah. I mean, if it's
back at the tree line,
840
00:33:22,896 --> 00:33:24,241
that thing's pretty big.
841
00:33:24,241 --> 00:33:26,827
It's massive if
it's at the tree line.
842
00:33:27,689 --> 00:33:29,172
BRYANT:
And it's gone.
It's like one frame?
843
00:33:29,172 --> 00:33:30,241
KALEB:
One frame.
844
00:33:30,241 --> 00:33:31,965
What?
845
00:33:34,655 --> 00:33:37,000
And this is like broad daylight.
846
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,551
Yeah.
847
00:33:39,379 --> 00:33:41,655
As you can imagine,
these cameras picked up
848
00:33:41,724 --> 00:33:43,758
all sorts of normal things,
849
00:33:43,758 --> 00:33:45,965
but there was a couple
frames on one of them
850
00:33:45,965 --> 00:33:47,862
that was really strange,
851
00:33:47,862 --> 00:33:49,275
and at first glance it appeared
852
00:33:49,275 --> 00:33:51,448
to be a silver orb-type
853
00:33:51,517 --> 00:33:54,241
shaped object
off in the distance.
854
00:33:54,241 --> 00:33:56,103
I don't know whether
it's exotic or not,
855
00:33:56,103 --> 00:33:58,379
but it's still a concern.
856
00:33:59,310 --> 00:34:01,275
Well, the, the hard thing
is to try and determine
857
00:34:01,275 --> 00:34:02,862
the size of that thing.
858
00:34:02,931 --> 00:34:06,172
-Yeah.
-I mean, whatever it is,
it's moving fast.
859
00:34:06,172 --> 00:34:08,379
And from here it looks like
it's coming straight in.
860
00:34:08,379 --> 00:34:09,482
Right, if I...
861
00:34:09,482 --> 00:34:10,965
Okay, can I...
862
00:34:10,965 --> 00:34:12,379
-So, if I pause it like this...
-Mm-hmm.
863
00:34:13,551 --> 00:34:15,758
...it makes me think it's big.
864
00:34:15,827 --> 00:34:17,482
What I'd like to do
is get Erik's eyes on it.
865
00:34:17,482 --> 00:34:19,965
You know, he's got
that video software
866
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,586
where he can analyze everything
867
00:34:21,586 --> 00:34:23,034
and track everything.
868
00:34:23,034 --> 00:34:24,655
So we probably need
to get his eyes on this.
869
00:34:24,724 --> 00:34:26,689
Yeah.
870
00:34:26,689 --> 00:34:29,034
Hey, Erik, this is Bryant
and Kaleb at the guard shack.
871
00:34:29,034 --> 00:34:30,379
Do you copy?
872
00:34:33,172 --> 00:34:35,551
So, Kaleb brought me
the memory cards
873
00:34:35,620 --> 00:34:38,551
from those trail cameras that
we have out on the property.
874
00:34:38,551 --> 00:34:41,551
But there's one thing that we'd
like you to get your eyes on.
875
00:34:44,103 --> 00:34:46,034
All right. Thanks, Erik.
876
00:34:46,034 --> 00:34:47,965
-BRYANT: Okay?
-KALEB: Okay, let's go.
877
00:34:48,862 --> 00:34:51,241
See if we can get
better eyes on 'em.
878
00:34:51,241 --> 00:34:52,965
BRYANT:
If this is some sort of orb,
879
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,000
that's interesting.
880
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,655
I think this is definitely
something that Travis and Erik
881
00:34:57,655 --> 00:35:00,310
need to take a look at
and analyze further.
882
00:35:00,310 --> 00:35:01,896
If it's not
883
00:35:01,896 --> 00:35:03,310
and it's a security risk
884
00:35:03,310 --> 00:35:04,965
with someone trying
to damage our assets,
885
00:35:04,965 --> 00:35:06,862
that falls on my plate.
886
00:35:08,172 --> 00:35:11,310
So it's important for us to
get eyes on this immediately.
887
00:35:15,586 --> 00:35:16,965
Hey.
888
00:35:16,965 --> 00:35:19,172
-KALEB: Hey, guys.
-What's going on, fellas?
889
00:35:19,172 --> 00:35:20,896
BRYANT: Hey. Did you
get that file I sent?
890
00:35:20,896 --> 00:35:23,137
-Yeah, I just got that. Um...
-Okay.
891
00:35:23,137 --> 00:35:25,310
ERIK:
Curious to see what it is.
892
00:35:25,310 --> 00:35:27,275
-It's going to be over
here on this monitor.
-TRAVIS: Was it a file?
893
00:35:27,275 --> 00:35:29,862
-What'd y'all send?
-Yeah, so just to-to
preface what's going on,
894
00:35:29,862 --> 00:35:32,758
um, you know we have those
trail cam or game cameras
895
00:35:32,758 --> 00:35:34,689
in some of the parts
of the property.
896
00:35:34,689 --> 00:35:36,206
Mm-hmm.
897
00:35:36,206 --> 00:35:38,241
We got three just down
there on the south end.
898
00:35:38,241 --> 00:35:39,896
On the south side.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
899
00:35:39,896 --> 00:35:41,103
KALEB:
We go and put these
cameras out there
900
00:35:41,103 --> 00:35:43,896
pretty soon after Thomas
901
00:35:43,896 --> 00:35:45,758
-saw that purple light.
-TRAVIS: Yeah.
902
00:35:45,827 --> 00:35:46,862
You know, within a day.
903
00:35:46,862 --> 00:35:47,965
So I just went down there
904
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,689
and grabbed those three cards,
905
00:35:49,689 --> 00:35:51,068
swapped... put new ones in,
906
00:35:51,068 --> 00:35:53,137
and we just were
looking at the footage,
907
00:35:53,137 --> 00:35:54,655
and we just found
something that we thought
908
00:35:54,655 --> 00:35:56,103
you guys might want to look at.
909
00:35:56,103 --> 00:35:57,862
-TRAVIS: Really?
-Yeah.
910
00:35:57,931 --> 00:35:59,655
Okay, so, guys,
will you remind me
911
00:35:59,724 --> 00:36:02,103
how deep into the interior of
the property this camera...
912
00:36:02,103 --> 00:36:04,241
So, this camera
913
00:36:04,241 --> 00:36:06,241
is really inside the property.
914
00:36:06,241 --> 00:36:07,793
It's not on the fence line.
915
00:36:07,793 --> 00:36:10,448
So, for someone to find this,
they have to be
916
00:36:10,517 --> 00:36:12,758
-on the property extensively.
-ERIK: Okay.
917
00:36:12,758 --> 00:36:14,689
KALEB:
But on the other side
of that is the camera
918
00:36:14,689 --> 00:36:16,241
that's on the other
side of the field
919
00:36:16,241 --> 00:36:18,862
looking at this camera,
it didn't catch anything.
920
00:36:18,862 --> 00:36:20,689
-Oh.
-Really?
921
00:36:20,689 --> 00:36:22,793
-KALEB: Yeah.
-ERIK: Okay.
922
00:36:22,793 --> 00:36:25,000
Uh, well, you ready
to take a look at it?
923
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,172
Yeah, sure.
924
00:36:26,172 --> 00:36:27,862
All right, here we go.
925
00:36:31,689 --> 00:36:33,551
-BRYANT: Go back. Right there.
-TRAVIS: Yo. Whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
926
00:36:33,551 --> 00:36:35,103
BRYANT:
Right there.
927
00:36:35,103 --> 00:36:38,034
TRAVIS:
Holy cow.
928
00:36:38,793 --> 00:36:40,172
ERIK:
Well, it looks like
929
00:36:40,172 --> 00:36:42,275
at least part of
this thing is spherical.
930
00:36:42,275 --> 00:36:44,103
Mm-hmm. Right.
931
00:36:44,103 --> 00:36:45,379
THOMAS:
Is this a one-frame event?
932
00:36:45,379 --> 00:36:47,551
BRYANT:
It is.
933
00:36:47,551 --> 00:36:50,000
It's literally one frame.
934
00:36:50,862 --> 00:36:52,034
That's crazy.
935
00:36:52,034 --> 00:36:53,241
BRYANT:
So if it's something,
936
00:36:53,241 --> 00:36:55,448
like, really exotic, like,
937
00:36:55,448 --> 00:36:57,965
middle of the day,
an orb like that showing up,
938
00:36:57,965 --> 00:36:59,827
a sphere showing up,
that's crazy.
939
00:37:04,689 --> 00:37:06,758
BRYANT:
At first glance, what...
940
00:37:06,827 --> 00:37:09,172
I mean, what are your thoughts?
941
00:37:09,172 --> 00:37:11,206
Well, uh, the fact
that the shape
942
00:37:11,206 --> 00:37:13,344
of the dark spot is different
943
00:37:13,344 --> 00:37:16,068
and it seems to have expanded
relative to the rest of it
944
00:37:16,068 --> 00:37:19,689
is kind of consistent
with reflections
945
00:37:19,689 --> 00:37:22,275
because it's in
a different place.
946
00:37:22,275 --> 00:37:23,689
Which suggests
that it's metallic
947
00:37:23,689 --> 00:37:25,344
or at least reflective
of some sort.
948
00:37:25,344 --> 00:37:27,103
ERIK:
Mm-hmm. It does suggest that.
949
00:37:28,689 --> 00:37:30,275
Travis, the first time
I was looking at this,
950
00:37:30,275 --> 00:37:32,965
it makes me think of
the model that you made
951
00:37:32,965 --> 00:37:34,448
of what we were
potentially seeing
952
00:37:34,517 --> 00:37:36,448
with the-the other
orbs during the night.
953
00:37:36,517 --> 00:37:38,965
Yeah, the orange orb
that we saw with the drones.
954
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,379
There is a similarity.
955
00:37:49,586 --> 00:37:51,689
TRAVIS: One of the things that
sticks out to me about this,
956
00:37:51,689 --> 00:37:53,758
Kaleb, you're right, is this
dark spot in the front of it.
957
00:37:53,758 --> 00:37:57,620
That orb, that-that orange orb
that we saw that night
958
00:37:57,620 --> 00:37:58,965
clearly had a dark spot
959
00:37:58,965 --> 00:38:00,137
in the middle.
960
00:38:00,137 --> 00:38:02,344
This new metallic-looking UAP
961
00:38:02,344 --> 00:38:04,068
that was spotted
in the south field
962
00:38:04,068 --> 00:38:06,310
does resemble a model I made
963
00:38:06,310 --> 00:38:08,448
of an orange orb that appeared
964
00:38:08,448 --> 00:38:10,275
during an experiment
with a swarm of drones
965
00:38:10,275 --> 00:38:11,758
a few weeks ago.
966
00:38:12,793 --> 00:38:15,137
All right, we have
drones armed, guys.
967
00:38:15,137 --> 00:38:17,000
Look at that.
968
00:38:18,206 --> 00:38:20,068
KALEB:
We got something right there.
969
00:38:20,068 --> 00:38:21,793
Right where, right where?
970
00:38:21,793 --> 00:38:23,896
Yeah, it is.
That's it right there.
971
00:38:23,896 --> 00:38:27,482
It clearly looks like
it's two halves,
972
00:38:27,482 --> 00:38:28,551
and looking at it,
it looks like it actually
973
00:38:28,551 --> 00:38:30,241
has an indention, doesn't it?
974
00:38:30,241 --> 00:38:32,000
There's some dark spot to it.
975
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,000
From modeling that,
I put this together.
976
00:38:36,034 --> 00:38:39,344
And, uh, this is kind of my
idea of what it looks like.
977
00:38:39,344 --> 00:38:41,896
Why don't I bring
that up for comparison?
978
00:38:42,793 --> 00:38:45,551
TRAVIS:
If you kind of
compare that to that,
979
00:38:45,551 --> 00:38:47,344
-there is a similarity.
-KALEB: Yeah.
980
00:38:49,068 --> 00:38:51,172
THOMAS:
We definitely need to
get to the bottom of this
981
00:38:51,172 --> 00:38:55,517
because that is the direction
that that burnt post is at.
982
00:38:55,517 --> 00:38:57,551
Is something like
that going to generate
983
00:38:57,551 --> 00:38:59,310
the type of heat to do that?
984
00:38:59,310 --> 00:39:00,586
THOMAS: Maybe?
985
00:39:00,586 --> 00:39:01,931
BRYANT:
And who's to say what this thing
986
00:39:01,931 --> 00:39:03,655
looks like at night.
987
00:39:03,655 --> 00:39:05,068
THOMAS:
I mean, the interesting
thing about
988
00:39:05,068 --> 00:39:06,862
that burnt fence post
is, we found it
989
00:39:06,862 --> 00:39:09,793
after we saw that
bright purple flash
990
00:39:09,793 --> 00:39:12,034
-down there in
the southern part.
-Yup.
991
00:39:12,034 --> 00:39:13,827
Yeah.
992
00:39:14,896 --> 00:39:16,551
TRAVIS:
We might have caught something
here in the middle of the day.
993
00:39:16,551 --> 00:39:18,137
BRYANT:
Right, which is amazing.
994
00:39:18,137 --> 00:39:21,000
What I find fascinating
about this orb
995
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,620
is, it's there one second
and it's gone so quickly.
996
00:39:23,620 --> 00:39:25,586
It must be moving at
a high rate of speed,
997
00:39:25,586 --> 00:39:27,793
and it just so happens
it's in the same area
998
00:39:27,793 --> 00:39:28,965
where we found this strange
999
00:39:28,965 --> 00:39:31,000
burnt post and a dead deer.
1000
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,896
Are they related somehow?
I don't know,
1001
00:39:32,896 --> 00:39:34,413
but it's really strange.
1002
00:39:34,413 --> 00:39:36,655
I think if this shows
us anything, it's that,
1003
00:39:36,655 --> 00:39:39,172
look, we've had quite
a few different incidents
1004
00:39:39,172 --> 00:39:41,000
happen down on that
part of the property
1005
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,482
in a very short period of time.
1006
00:39:42,482 --> 00:39:44,517
I think, if anything,
that shows us
1007
00:39:44,517 --> 00:39:46,206
that we need to deploy
1008
00:39:46,206 --> 00:39:48,758
some more assets down there
1009
00:39:48,758 --> 00:39:50,620
and, uh, instrument that
side of the property out
1010
00:39:50,620 --> 00:39:51,827
a little bit better.
1011
00:39:51,827 --> 00:39:53,586
KALEB:
And I'll go poke around
1012
00:39:53,586 --> 00:39:56,000
out there some more and
see if I can't find anything.
1013
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,586
Yeah, we just need
to up the amount of time
1014
00:39:57,586 --> 00:39:59,413
we spend there,
at least in the short term.
1015
00:39:59,413 --> 00:40:01,655
Given that, I mean,
if this truly is
1016
00:40:01,655 --> 00:40:03,068
happening in broad daylight...
1017
00:40:03,068 --> 00:40:04,551
-Mm-hmm.
-...I mean, that's something,
1018
00:40:04,551 --> 00:40:07,517
definitely, we need
to get more eyes on.
1019
00:40:07,517 --> 00:40:08,655
And, you know, if it takes it,
1020
00:40:08,655 --> 00:40:10,034
we could even just keep a vigil.
1021
00:40:10,034 --> 00:40:12,103
Physically go down
there and just watch.
1022
00:40:13,241 --> 00:40:16,586
TRAVIS:
Yeah, keep an eye
on that south field.
1023
00:40:16,586 --> 00:40:18,241
BRYANT:
I agree. I'm for it.
1024
00:40:18,241 --> 00:40:20,758
-Well, thanks, guys.
-TRAVIS: Thank you, guys.
1025
00:40:20,758 --> 00:40:22,137
-Okay, thanks, guys.
-All right.
1026
00:40:22,137 --> 00:40:23,206
Well, I'm gonna leave you
with it, Erik.
1027
00:40:23,206 --> 00:40:25,517
THOMAS: Interesting find.
1028
00:40:27,517 --> 00:40:30,000
ERIK:
We're dealing
with things on a scale
1029
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,793
of 512 acres of ranch here.
1030
00:40:32,793 --> 00:40:35,793
We have a few known hot spots,
1031
00:40:35,793 --> 00:40:37,241
but we have no idea
1032
00:40:37,241 --> 00:40:39,448
whether effects such as
we've witnessed here
1033
00:40:39,448 --> 00:40:42,827
might play out in other
regions of the property.
1034
00:40:42,827 --> 00:40:46,448
TRAVIS:
Since I've started
working on Skinwalker Ranch,
1035
00:40:46,448 --> 00:40:48,344
there has always been this idea
1036
00:40:48,344 --> 00:40:51,034
that it responds
to certain individuals.
1037
00:40:51,034 --> 00:40:54,862
We still don't know
why, who or how.
1038
00:40:54,862 --> 00:40:57,137
As we continue
this investigation,
1039
00:40:57,137 --> 00:41:00,586
hopefully we'll learn more
about these strange mysteries.
1040
00:41:00,586 --> 00:41:02,241
BRANDON:
Never before
1041
00:41:02,241 --> 00:41:04,413
have we seen
scientific equipment
1042
00:41:04,413 --> 00:41:08,000
and personnel dedicated
to finding the answers.
1043
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,655
There isn't another
private piece of property
1044
00:41:12,655 --> 00:41:17,689
that has this degree
of scientific research.
1045
00:41:18,482 --> 00:41:21,000
We don't know
what lies in store.
1046
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,862
We're in uncharted territory.
1047
00:41:24,034 --> 00:41:27,758
But I am more willing than ever
1048
00:41:27,758 --> 00:41:32,000
to take the risk,
to explore the unknown,
1049
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,241
to discover the secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
1050
00:41:38,034 --> 00:41:40,310
Erik was telling us that
you got some new equipment
1051
00:41:40,310 --> 00:41:44,000
that can help us identify
something underneath the ground.
1052
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,172
Multispectral.
1053
00:41:45,172 --> 00:41:47,517
There's some interesting stuff.
1054
00:41:47,517 --> 00:41:48,655
I've been itching
to show it to you.
1055
00:41:48,655 --> 00:41:49,620
TRAVIS:
By the bait pen,
1056
00:41:49,620 --> 00:41:51,310
there are three circles.
1057
00:41:51,310 --> 00:41:53,206
THOMAS:
So I'll make some arrangements
1058
00:41:53,206 --> 00:41:55,172
and we'll get
an excavator out here
1059
00:41:55,172 --> 00:41:56,586
and we'll go out and dig.
1060
00:41:56,586 --> 00:41:58,000
Oh, whoa. Wait a minute...
1061
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,103
Hey, guys, y'all
come look at this.
1062
00:42:00,103 --> 00:42:01,586
It's hard for me to believe
1063
00:42:01,586 --> 00:42:03,413
that's Mother Nature.
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