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THOMAS: Hey, we got a light
that's moving.
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TRAVIS: Yeah!
Right there!
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That's no satellite.
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TRAVIS:
It just vanished.
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Oh, we got a malfunction.
Everybody watch out.
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There's something in the sky
above the rocket right here.
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We may be looking at the anomaly
for the first time, guys.
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We have a helicopter right over
the triangle right now.
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It's pretty clear somebody
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has taken an interest
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in what we're doing.
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NARRATOR:
There is a ranch
in Northern Utah.
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It is considered the epicenter
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of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
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animal mutilations,
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bizarre UFO sightings
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and unusual energies that have
proven harmful to humans.
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For 20 years,
the federal government
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tried to find answers
and failed.
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Now a new team
of dedicated scientists,
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researchers and experts
has taken over.
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They are determined to solve
the mystery and reveal...
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...The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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-TRAVIS: Well,
we got the rockets.
-ERIK: Whoa.
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Erik, your payloads
are in here.
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-Oh, wow. Yeah.
-But look at that.
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That thing blew up
out of the side.
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I've never in my life seen one
of these little motors do that.
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I've seen 'em all...
blow out the bottom or the top.
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-Mm-hmm.
-But I've launched thousands
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of that particular motor
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and never seen that
in my life, never.
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After seeing another UAP
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during a rocket experiment
at the triangle
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last night,
we couldn't wait to review
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the high-speed camera footage
that Burdette Anderson recorded.
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We had just launched
a rocket up through
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the previously-identified
anomalous zone
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between 300 and 5,000 feet high.
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And right after the rocket
cleared the launch tower,
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it appeared to hit something,
and mysteriously exploded.
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You've got to see what Burdette
captured on the high-speed.
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-ERIK: Oh, I can't wait.
-TRAVIS: It is unbelievable.
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So, after all the time
we've spent investigating
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how the triangle
might be connected
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to the weird phenomena that
we've seen on Skinwalker Ranch,
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we were really hoping
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that Burdette's
high-speed camera system--
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which takes 1,000 pictures
per second--
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would help us figure out just
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what in the heck
destroyed our rocket.
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Now, before we go any further,
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before you hit the play button,
look at that screen
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really closely
and see if you see anything
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that shouldn't be there.
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One of these things
is not like the others.
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ERIK:
Well, I'm seeing something
there that I don't see
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in the surveillance
camera footage.
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-Where do you see it?
-Well, high in the screen
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-towards the center.
-There you go.
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Now watch as it moves a little,
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uh, more into the video,
what-what that becomes.
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ERIK:
Okay.
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-TRAVIS: Look at that.
-ERIK: Okay.
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TRAVIS:
It's clearly
becoming illuminated
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or something,
and its growing in size,
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and it looks like
an object right there.
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But the rocket's
not even close to it yet.
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Yeah, so there is... I mean,
there is some, uh, flare.
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-TRAVIS: Sure.
-But-- Which is to be expected.
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-But there's something else
going on, I think.
-Yup.
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-Now watch what happens
right here.
-Uh-huh.
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As the rocket gets there. Boom!
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At exactly the same level
where we first see this thing,
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this rocket's exploding, and...
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Oh, yeah, you can see how
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the-the shockwave
has cleared out the-the trail.
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TRAVIS:
And you can measure
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-the distance on this right?
-Yeah, as matter of fact...
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You know, the field
of view and everything.
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Yeah, I did some measuring
on that already, actually.
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So, basically, this longer line
on the right was measuring from
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-the base of
where the rocket started.
-Mm-hmm. Yeah.
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BURDETTE:
And then. this other green point
up here is where the...
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-about where
the explosion took place.
-TRAVIS: Okay.
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-And how high is that?
-31 feet.
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Didn't the LOC guys tell us
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that the flight computer
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on the big rocket
last summer went 31 feet?
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ERIK:
Wow.
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-Isn't that what they told us?
-You got to be kidding me.
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TRAVIS: Last fall,
a team from LOC Precision
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built a custom 15-foot-tall
rocket that exploded
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right after launch.
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-Yeah, uh-oh. That motor blew.
-Oh!
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Just like
what happened last night.
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And then, moments later, we saw
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a UAP ascend high
above the triangle
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and vanish into thin air.
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Oh, my gosh. It disappeared.
Can you replay that?
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Could this blob-like thing
that appeared
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just 31 feet high be the anomaly
that we've been trying
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to pinpoint at the triangle
for the last four years?
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If so, then
what the heck could it be?
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And how might it be related
to the UAPs we keep seeing?
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Could this be a portal, or maybe
even just a force field?
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Kaleb, that's a great question.
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Uh, we've got to dig through
this data and this video,
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and do a lot more analysis
and a lot more thinking.
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Who knows what it is? Uh, I'm...
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I'll give you this.
It's definitely suggestive.
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Yes, I'm not ruling it out.
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For a thousand years,
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there's been stories
about interdimensional portals
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on Skinwalker Ranch among
the local indigenous tribes,
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and even from when
the federal government worked
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with Robert Bigelow
to investigate the property
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back in the 1990s
and early 2000s.
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All right,
let's turn this thing on.
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What is that?
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But what really makes me
wonder if it could be true
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is that in 2019,
I detected an energy pulse
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oscillating the entire
spectrum,
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from 35 megahertz
to 1.6 gigahertz.
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That's an immense amount
of energy
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that I just don't understand.
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This is the kind of energy
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that many scientists have
suggested might be required
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to create
or be a product of a wormhole.
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So, is Kaleb's question
about portals crazy?
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I don't know. Maybe not.
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Let's just walk through it.
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All right, step through it.
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Uh, right here,
you see it flares.
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That's the instant
of explosion, apparently.
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-Mm-hmm.
-Right? What's interesting...
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Go back one-one step, Burdette.
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That flare is gone. There was
a flare right here, right?
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Go-go-go one more forward now.
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And you see, is that...
is that camera flare,
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or is that actually light
bouncing off of something
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that's in front of it?
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ERIK;
Uh-huh.
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I noticed something
before the explosion.
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A few frames back--
it got my attention--
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to the left of that plume.
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-Okay.
-I'll bet... I'll bet if we...
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if we take it back a bit,
it'll show up.
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-There!
-(indistinct chatter)
-TRAVIS: Oh, I saw it.
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That was bright, dude!
I didn't see that light before.
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ERIK:
Right there.
Okay, back up just a...
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So you're talking
about this right here?
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-There it is right there.
-Look at that.
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ERIK:
Right there. That.
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I noticed that, in one frame,
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there's a bright light
just above the mesa.
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It's pretty suspicious.
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I don't see anything
to account for it directly.
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I don't see anything that would
have mechanically interfered
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with the launch.
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What we have are a lot
of separate pieces
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of what seems
to be an incomplete puzzle.
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We've got something producing
a bright spot here in the sky
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that lasts one millisecond.
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This is a very short,
fast event.
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Well, you know,
this may be the first time
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we've actually got evidence
of there being some
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physical something above
the triangle. The object...
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Whether it's a portal
or a... a UFO
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or some... whatever else.
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I don't know,
but it's something.
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God, well, this
and the rest of what
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we've seen,
taken in the aggregate,
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including the UAP,
or possible UAP,
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that you guys tracked
directly overhead...
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And what was up
with that helicopter? You know?
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I want to pour over
everything we've got.
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Who knows? We may have even
missed additional clues
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in what you've given us, so,
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we've got our work
cut out for us.
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Well, Burdette,
I really appreciate it.
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-Absolutely.
-THOMAS: I guess, uh,
last thing we need
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to do is, uh,
report back to Brandon
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-to tell him
about that helicopter.
-Yeah.
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TRAVIS:
This will blow his mind.
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KALEB: You there?
We are in motion.
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TRAVIS:
Copy that, Kaleb. Thank you.
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After we told Brandon Fugal,
the owner of Skinwalker Ranch,
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about what happened
at the triangle,
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and the helicopter,
he said he would look into it
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with some of his associates
in the state government,
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and then personally come out to
the ranch and report
back to us.
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So, while waiting for that,
we turned our focus back
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to another major spot
of interest
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in our current investigations:
the mesa.
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-If it's possible...
-Yeah. Yeah.
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...I'd like to bring him in
a little further back.
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TRAVIS: Last week,
we conducted new
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ground-penetrating radar
scans of the mesa,
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where, one year ago,
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we drilled up against
what the data suggests
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could be a buried,
400-foot-long metal object
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shaped like a dome, and possibly
even made of materials
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similar to those that NASA uses
to build space shuttles.
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JAN:
We're just going to have
to see what we get.
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TRAVIS:
The new scans identified
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a number of possibly
metal anomalies,
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including a vertical one
behind the dome-shaped object
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that's 20 feet wide
and over a 100 feet tall.
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-So... Yeah.
-Whatever this is,
it's as tall as the mesa.
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So now, we're trying a
different method to figure out
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just what could be buried
inside the mesa.
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He's going to be moving
this crane over this way.
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He'll be driving right up
to about right here.
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You can come just
a little bit more if you want.
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I've arranged
for a crane to come in
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and to lift a lot
of these big rocks
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out of the way and hopefully
get some answers
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as to what sits
inside that mesa.
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Okay, we'll run our outriggers
out, and then we'll take a peek.
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ERIK:
Sometimes, when we're making
changes to the landscape,
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even small changes,
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something unusual happens,
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often something
that we can measure.
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So, we will be stationed nearby
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the activity with detectors
of various kinds.
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Think that's good.
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ERIK:
Hopefully, this will yield
some very interesting results
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as Thomas makes
the initial changes to the mesa.
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-These aren't light, are they?
-No.
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-There?
-There you go.
-You're good.
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You good?
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BRYANT: The fact that
there is a metallic substance
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in this mesa
that has the same properties
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as space shuttle tiles for
re-entry-- what
in the world
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are we dealing with
and how did it get here?
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Yeah, I want
to get your eyes on this.
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I've got a 1.6 on the Omni.
Take a look.
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Yeah. Watch this for a second.
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-Uh, that.
-TRAVIS: What?
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ERIK:
It comes and goes.
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TRAVIS:
But the center is
at 1.6, right on it?
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Yeah, okay,
so there's a transient.
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-It-it was silent,
and then it came back.
-Wow.
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Just as the crane was about
to start removing boulders
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from the site where we detected
the anomalous objects,
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Erik's main energy detector,
called a spectrum analyzer,
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got a reading at the mysterious
1.6 gigahertz radio frequency
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that we've seen during a number
of our experiments.
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And it's a signal
that I can't rule out
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being some kind
of communication.
252
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But if it is, who or what is
trying to communicate with us,
253
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and from where?
254
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-That's crazy.
-You see how it's intermittent?
255
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Yeah, yeah.
256
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-Something's happening.
-We getting close?
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Well, it's not giving me
the option
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to pick up
the counterweight right now.
259
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You what?
260
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It won't allow me
to pick it up right now.
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THOMAS:
You're not operating
the way it usually does?
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No, it's-it's giving me
a glitch here.
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THOMAS:
Hang on for a sec.
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Hey, guys, uh, I would say
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that you're not going
to believe this,
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but you're probably
going to believe this.
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Uh, we're having some issues
up here with the crane.
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Uh, we're going to believe it
given what we've seen here.
269
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What kind of issues
are you having, Tom?
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So, the electronics in the crane
are not allowing him
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to pick up the counterweight.
272
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Uh, he's sitting here
shaking his head.
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He can't... can't get his head
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wrapped around what's going on.
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Are you guys seeing
anything down there?
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ERIK:
Oh, yeah.
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Is this responding to that big
piece of equipment over there?
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TRAVIS:
Just as Allen Mortensen
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was about to start removing
boulders from the mesa
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where we've detected
two massive,
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possibly metallic anomalies,
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the controls
on his crane froze up.
283
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And at the same time, Erik's
spectrum analyzer picked up
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the 1.6 gigahertz signal
that we've detected
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during a lot of our experiments,
286
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especially when we started
digging on Skinwalker Ranch.
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Hey, Thomas, can you hear me?
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THOMAS:
Yeah, go ahead.
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TRAVIS: Could you get them
to rotate the arm?
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I'll ask him, but, uh, he's
telling me that the crane's...
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the electronics aren't letting
him do anything right now.
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So, now, we are taking
big metal objects
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and intimately connecting them
to the ground,
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and we're seeing an
electromagnetic signal come out
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in the direction
of those big metal objects.
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Is the source of that signal
inside the ground?
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Maybe what people have been
seeing all this time was,
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-when you dig, things happen.
-Mm-hmm.
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They're touching the source
that's sending out the signal.
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BRYANT:
We've seen people react
when we've seen it pop up.
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TRAVIS:
Yeah, we have.
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We've had all sorts of instances
with medical episodes,
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and one... the one footprint
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that's left behind is
that 1.6 gigahertz signal.
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TRAVIS:
Dragon was dead right
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that there have been
a number of times
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that we detected
the 1.6 gigahertz signal
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when we started digging
or drilling on the ranch.
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Heck, a few years ago,
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Thomas Winterton ended up
in the hospital
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with a serious head injury
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after building a road
on the mesa.
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Could the 1.6 gigahertz signal
be the cause of that injury?
314
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And did it come from whatever
is buried inside the mesa?
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That possibility
made us all anxious
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to see what would happen
as this operation continued.
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THOMAS:
So, what would cause...?
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Was that just typical,
319
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or is that something
that's not typical?
320
00:14:04,868 --> 00:14:07,601
Um, it's not real typical.
321
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Normally,
this crane works flawless.
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THOMAS:
Whoa! What?
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ALLEN:
We're good now.
324
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Boy, I'm so curious
to know what happened.
325
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It wouldn't let me get
in the right position
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to swing over
and pick the counterweight up.
327
00:14:30,401 --> 00:14:33,501
But I mean, right now,
it's okay.
328
00:14:35,035 --> 00:14:37,301
-So, you're good to go now?
-Yeah, we're good to go.
329
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And we'll position
on that first rock
330
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-whenever you're ready.
-Okay.
331
00:14:41,468 --> 00:14:43,802
Well, he's got things
squared away now, we think,
332
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so he's going
to go ahead and boom out,
333
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and we'll see if we can
start moving some rock.
334
00:14:48,335 --> 00:14:48,868
Heck, yeah.
335
00:14:51,101 --> 00:14:53,501
(whirring)
336
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Right there. That's good.
337
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-THOMAS: Okay.
-ALLEN: Watch out.
338
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THOMAS:
Hey, guys, we got
the first rock in the air.
339
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Got her?
340
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Just swinging out.
Let's be ready.
341
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TRAVIS:
Look here.
342
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The 1.6 signal has grown some
343
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with whatever he's doing.
344
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ERIK:
Oh, yeah.
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TRAVIS:
So think about this.
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If there is some metal,
dome-shaped structure
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-under the ground...
-Mm-hmm.
348
00:15:27,768 --> 00:15:30,734
TRAVIS:
...and we just put
a big metal rod above it,
349
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we just created a big dish
350
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that we would be seeing
a signal from.
351
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ERIK:
What is energizing
the whole system?
352
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Where is the energy source?
Where is the signal coming from?
353
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ALLEN:
Ooh. Easy, easy.
354
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TRAVIS:
We've been looking
for this source
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of this 1.6 gigahertz
now for three years,
356
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going on four,
and we've never found it.
357
00:15:59,002 --> 00:16:01,734
This might be the closest
experiment we've come to
358
00:16:01,868 --> 00:16:03,901
that is tying us
into that signal
359
00:16:03,901 --> 00:16:04,934
and where it's coming from.
360
00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,901
Tom!
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TRAVIS:
Oh, they're gone.
362
00:16:16,134 --> 00:16:17,567
How does that happen?
363
00:16:20,767 --> 00:16:22,401
ERIK:
Well, I can verify
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that we've got nothing
over here now.
365
00:16:25,001 --> 00:16:26,033
TRAVIS:
That's a little creepy.
366
00:16:27,634 --> 00:16:28,802
We were all baffled
367
00:16:28,802 --> 00:16:31,767
when the 1.6 gigahertz signal
stopped broadcasting.
368
00:16:32,134 --> 00:16:34,235
But then,
we realized it happened
369
00:16:34,235 --> 00:16:37,134
exactly when Allen had stopped
moving the boulders.
370
00:16:37,301 --> 00:16:38,934
It just looked like
more evidence
371
00:16:38,934 --> 00:16:40,467
that the two things
were connected.
372
00:16:41,635 --> 00:16:44,767
We're getting about to the end
of what we can do safely.
373
00:16:45,601 --> 00:16:46,801
-You agree?
-Yeah.
374
00:16:47,335 --> 00:16:49,767
The bottom rocks are supporting
the whole hillside,
375
00:16:50,435 --> 00:16:51,934
so any more would cause a slide.
376
00:16:52,268 --> 00:16:54,301
It's a very dangerous area
to work in.
377
00:16:54,301 --> 00:16:58,868
With loose rocks, everything,
you never know what may happen.
378
00:16:59,568 --> 00:17:01,868
THOMAS:
Okay, well,
we'll keep that in mind.
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00:17:02,235 --> 00:17:05,268
Looking at it, I think we can
get an excavator in here.
380
00:17:05,268 --> 00:17:07,268
Clean that up nice,
and we'll have a perfect place
381
00:17:07,268 --> 00:17:09,301
to get the drill into,
382
00:17:09,301 --> 00:17:11,034
and we'll head straight for that
383
00:17:11,034 --> 00:17:12,968
-anomaly that we saw
on the data.
-Yeah, yeah.
384
00:17:13,668 --> 00:17:16,901
It was disappointing to have
to stop removing the boulders,
385
00:17:16,901 --> 00:17:19,535
but safety is always
the priority.
386
00:17:19,668 --> 00:17:21,401
We're not giving up
on figuring out
387
00:17:21,401 --> 00:17:24,001
what the dome-shaped object
and the vertical anomaly
388
00:17:24,001 --> 00:17:25,801
that we've detected
in the mesa are.
389
00:17:26,168 --> 00:17:28,834
So we've got to bring
a drill rig back out here
390
00:17:28,834 --> 00:17:30,168
and get to the bottom of this.
391
00:17:30,168 --> 00:17:31,235
ALLEN:
Thanks for having us.
392
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TRAVIS:
Good start.
393
00:17:32,968 --> 00:17:34,268
There's an anomaly in there.
394
00:17:34,268 --> 00:17:35,167
We just got to get to it.
395
00:17:53,768 --> 00:17:55,268
BRYANT:
Sean, welcome to the ranch.
396
00:17:55,268 --> 00:17:56,767
-Thanks, brother.
Good to be here.
-You got it.
397
00:17:57,301 --> 00:17:59,802
TRAVIS: The next day,
Brandon Fugal alerted us
398
00:17:59,802 --> 00:18:02,134
that he and his brother
Cameron were bringing
399
00:18:02,134 --> 00:18:05,101
Utah Attorney General Sean
Reyes to the ranch
400
00:18:05,101 --> 00:18:07,069
to hear more
about the mysterious helicopter
401
00:18:07,069 --> 00:18:10,068
that showed up during our last
experiment at the triangle.
402
00:18:10,235 --> 00:18:12,901
So we were all eager
to hear his perspective
403
00:18:12,901 --> 00:18:14,635
and figure out as a group,
404
00:18:14,635 --> 00:18:16,868
what our next investigation
there should be.
405
00:18:17,335 --> 00:18:18,869
We've been anxious to get here.
406
00:18:18,869 --> 00:18:24,034
I understand, with some very
suspicious activity occurring
407
00:18:24,201 --> 00:18:27,034
and some concerns
over our airspace,
408
00:18:27,368 --> 00:18:30,101
it was important to have
Attorney General Sean Reyes
409
00:18:30,201 --> 00:18:33,435
come back and get a briefing
on what is happening
410
00:18:33,535 --> 00:18:35,034
here with our investigation.
411
00:18:35,468 --> 00:18:38,468
Gentlemen, great to be back
with you in person.
412
00:18:38,668 --> 00:18:41,401
I've been monitoring
and keeping tabs with Brandon.
413
00:18:41,468 --> 00:18:43,602
I know you all are
doing great things out here.
414
00:18:43,768 --> 00:18:44,835
TRAVIS:
Well, General, I think, uh,
415
00:18:44,969 --> 00:18:48,467
we have some evidence and some
information to show you guys.
416
00:18:49,268 --> 00:18:50,668
ERIK:
Brandon, General Reyes,
you know that
417
00:18:50,668 --> 00:18:55,301
we sometimes see
air traffic over the ranch.
418
00:18:55,301 --> 00:18:58,635
Sometimes we can't identify
the craft using ADS-B
419
00:18:58,735 --> 00:19:01,635
or-or any other, uh,
method available to us.
420
00:19:01,635 --> 00:19:05,400
And we had an event
like that very recently.
421
00:19:06,468 --> 00:19:09,501
So, I'm going to bring up
the All Sky camera.
422
00:19:12,134 --> 00:19:14,168
I'm hoping that the sound will
carry through for this.
423
00:19:14,168 --> 00:19:17,400
-(rhythmic whirring)
-(indistinct chatter on video)
424
00:19:24,934 --> 00:19:26,901
CAMERON:
That's...
425
00:19:28,301 --> 00:19:29,802
Sounds like Black Hawk to me.
426
00:19:29,869 --> 00:19:32,668
-TRAVIS: Really?
-CAMERON: Yeah,
I've been around aviation
427
00:19:32,668 --> 00:19:35,602
my whole life, been around
every type of helicopter
428
00:19:35,602 --> 00:19:37,802
and airplane,
military and civilian, and
429
00:19:37,802 --> 00:19:40,968
you can get a lot from the tail
rotor sounds of these aircraft.
430
00:19:40,968 --> 00:19:43,067
That sounds crazy.
It sounds crazy.
431
00:19:43,868 --> 00:19:45,501
BRYANT:
Okay, so, in your opinion,
432
00:19:45,501 --> 00:19:46,901
based off of the sound,
433
00:19:47,001 --> 00:19:48,734
this sounds to you like
a military helicopter?
434
00:19:49,034 --> 00:19:50,801
Sounds to me
like a Black Hawk to me.
435
00:19:51,001 --> 00:19:53,101
I mean, as crazy as it sounds,
it's almost like,
436
00:19:53,101 --> 00:19:55,033
is this aMen in Black
type of a thing?
437
00:20:03,902 --> 00:20:05,701
CAMERON: Tell me
you got ADS-B data on it.
438
00:20:06,268 --> 00:20:07,368
-ERIK: No.
-No?
439
00:20:07,635 --> 00:20:11,001
I did not get a signal
from this helicopter.
440
00:20:11,969 --> 00:20:14,668
It is not legal to turn
your ADS-B off like that.
441
00:20:14,668 --> 00:20:15,734
BRYANT:
Unless you're military.
442
00:20:17,635 --> 00:20:20,467
TRAVIS: If that really was a
Black Hawk military helicopter
443
00:20:21,401 --> 00:20:23,467
that flew over the ranch
the other night,
444
00:20:24,301 --> 00:20:28,034
it just makes me wonder,
did they just happen to show up
445
00:20:28,034 --> 00:20:30,301
right after we saw
that mysterious blob
446
00:20:30,301 --> 00:20:32,401
destroy our rocket
over the triangle,
447
00:20:32,702 --> 00:20:36,801
or are we under constant,
secret surveillance out here?
448
00:20:37,801 --> 00:20:39,001
REYES:
We're a sovereign state.
449
00:20:39,001 --> 00:20:41,335
We have our own
constitutional rights,
450
00:20:41,702 --> 00:20:44,568
and, uh, violations
of our state's sovereignty
451
00:20:44,568 --> 00:20:48,868
and our state's rights, we have
to take very, very seriously.
452
00:20:49,635 --> 00:20:53,002
Well, I'm glad to have
the top law enforcement officer
453
00:20:53,002 --> 00:20:55,602
in the state of Utah here,
just to get eyes on it
454
00:20:55,602 --> 00:20:58,301
-and-and give your perspective.
-I have a lot of friends
455
00:20:58,301 --> 00:20:59,902
and a lot of assets
in this state,
456
00:21:00,002 --> 00:21:01,767
and I would love to get
to the bottom of this, so
457
00:21:02,134 --> 00:21:03,701
next time we get together,
hopefully
458
00:21:03,701 --> 00:21:04,767
I'll have some information.
459
00:21:04,868 --> 00:21:06,701
BRANDON:
A covert military
460
00:21:07,134 --> 00:21:10,934
helicopter entering the airspace
and then hovering
461
00:21:11,301 --> 00:21:12,834
south of Homestead One,
462
00:21:14,201 --> 00:21:16,534
watching the experiments.
463
00:21:16,968 --> 00:21:19,868
It's no surprise
that it's created some concern
464
00:21:19,868 --> 00:21:21,201
for the attorney general.
465
00:21:21,568 --> 00:21:24,602
Well, as we're teeing up
our next series of experiments
466
00:21:24,602 --> 00:21:27,568
in order to better understand
what the hell is going on here,
467
00:21:27,802 --> 00:21:30,767
I think we're hopefully
going to see some more results.
468
00:21:31,602 --> 00:21:34,335
TRAVIS:
So, how do you feel
about using the helicopter
469
00:21:34,335 --> 00:21:36,667
for more experiments
over the triangle area?
470
00:21:36,968 --> 00:21:38,435
CAMERON:
Well, I think we have to.
471
00:21:38,435 --> 00:21:40,435
Uh, we're getting
such compelling data.
472
00:21:40,435 --> 00:21:42,568
I want to...
I want to explore further.
473
00:21:42,635 --> 00:21:45,335
Uh, the helicopter is safe,
and I pre-flighted it.
474
00:21:45,335 --> 00:21:47,101
I feel good about it today.
Let's do it.
475
00:21:47,435 --> 00:21:49,802
Well, with that,
are you willing to stick around
476
00:21:49,802 --> 00:21:52,268
and participate
in an experiment with us?
477
00:21:52,268 --> 00:21:55,335
-Absolutely.
-Great. Let's, uh...
let's prepare.
478
00:21:55,468 --> 00:21:56,334
-Let's get moving.
Yeah, we got stuff to do.
-Get her done.
479
00:22:00,502 --> 00:22:03,035
TRAVIS:
While we're figuring out
our next move at the mesa,
480
00:22:03,269 --> 00:22:06,602
having Brandon's helicopter
here gives us the perfect
opportunity
481
00:22:06,602 --> 00:22:09,468
to investigate for more evidence
of the blob-shaped thing
482
00:22:09,468 --> 00:22:12,734
we just encountered
only 31 feet above the triangle,
483
00:22:13,134 --> 00:22:16,201
and also to search
the entire anomalous zone
484
00:22:16,201 --> 00:22:19,168
up as high as 5,000 feet
above ground level.
485
00:22:19,668 --> 00:22:20,934
REYES:
What do we got going on, guys?
486
00:22:21,934 --> 00:22:23,602
ERIK:
We're going
to probe the triangle
487
00:22:23,602 --> 00:22:25,268
at, or just beneath,
the anomaly,
488
00:22:25,635 --> 00:22:27,802
so we'll be releasing
some projectiles,
489
00:22:27,802 --> 00:22:31,601
and we're going to do
a high-speed camera recording
490
00:22:32,034 --> 00:22:33,502
as those projectiles fall.
491
00:22:33,502 --> 00:22:36,134
These are round,
dense, uh, black balls.
492
00:22:36,568 --> 00:22:38,568
Who knows?
We may see some irregularity
493
00:22:38,935 --> 00:22:41,235
in the... in the way
they fall, the timing.
494
00:22:41,535 --> 00:22:42,934
Well, gentlemen, let's proceed.
495
00:22:44,068 --> 00:22:46,335
TRAVIS: Our plan was
to have Cameron fly
496
00:22:46,335 --> 00:22:48,034
Kaleb and Erik
above the triangle,
497
00:22:48,034 --> 00:22:49,835
stopping at various altitudes
498
00:22:49,835 --> 00:22:53,134
between 1,000
and 5,000 feet high in order
499
00:22:53,201 --> 00:22:55,634
to drop small,
weighted balls down
500
00:22:55,634 --> 00:22:57,435
through the anomalous zone
501
00:22:57,435 --> 00:22:59,835
to see if their trajectory
or velocity is affected
502
00:22:59,835 --> 00:23:02,601
in any way by anything
out of the ordinary.
503
00:23:04,301 --> 00:23:05,668
-Hey, Burdette.
-Hey, Thomas.
504
00:23:05,668 --> 00:23:07,001
-Good to see you again.
-Good to see you, man.
505
00:23:07,001 --> 00:23:08,101
I'm all set up for you guys,
506
00:23:08,101 --> 00:23:09,368
-so we're ready to rock.
-Awesome.
507
00:23:09,435 --> 00:23:11,502
TRAVIS: We've dropped objects
through the anomalous zone
508
00:23:11,502 --> 00:23:14,034
above the triangle before,
but this time
509
00:23:14,168 --> 00:23:15,768
high-speed camera expert
510
00:23:15,768 --> 00:23:18,768
Burdette Anderson was there
to record each drop.
511
00:23:18,768 --> 00:23:20,502
-Do we have the camera set up?
-Yeah, we've got
512
00:23:20,568 --> 00:23:22,768
two high-speed cameras
back here. I wanted to show you
513
00:23:22,768 --> 00:23:23,802
the framing to make sure
that we're going
514
00:23:23,869 --> 00:23:27,235
-to catch the helicopter drop
and the anomaly properly.
-Okay.
515
00:23:27,935 --> 00:23:30,568
TRAVIS:
Since he can shoot
1,500 frames per second,
516
00:23:30,902 --> 00:23:33,235
we were hoping
he would be able to capture
517
00:23:33,235 --> 00:23:34,502
the best evidence yet
518
00:23:34,502 --> 00:23:36,001
of what could be the cause
519
00:23:36,001 --> 00:23:38,001
of all the phenomena
we've witnessed
520
00:23:38,001 --> 00:23:40,601
at the triangle
over the last four years.
521
00:23:41,702 --> 00:23:45,167
Before we start, I need to make
sure that my GPS tracker is on.
522
00:23:46,602 --> 00:23:49,301
One of the high priority items
for us is
523
00:23:49,301 --> 00:23:52,168
to collect the data-logged
GPS position information
524
00:23:52,168 --> 00:23:55,400
for the helicopter during
both phases of this experiment.
525
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,935
Okay.
526
00:23:56,935 --> 00:23:59,435
If we have a space-time anomaly
at the triangle,
527
00:23:59,568 --> 00:24:02,034
as we have speculated,
it could well be
528
00:24:02,034 --> 00:24:04,468
that the GPS data
will give us an indication
529
00:24:04,535 --> 00:24:07,901
as to its arrival and departure
during the experiment.
530
00:24:12,868 --> 00:24:14,701
Good.
531
00:24:17,668 --> 00:24:18,335
ERIK:
We will be monitoring
any response that we get
532
00:24:18,335 --> 00:24:22,734
from the anomaly using a small
handheld Spectran device,
533
00:24:25,368 --> 00:24:27,335
and we'll be looking
especially, of course,
534
00:24:27,335 --> 00:24:29,968
in that 1.6 gigahertz
frequency range
535
00:24:29,968 --> 00:24:31,901
for what could be a response
536
00:24:31,901 --> 00:24:34,033
to our activity
over the triangle.
537
00:24:43,034 --> 00:24:44,834
(clears throat)
538
00:24:46,268 --> 00:24:47,067
TRAVIS:
Hey, Dragon.
539
00:24:47,534 --> 00:24:48,601
Go ahead, Travis.
540
00:24:49,034 --> 00:24:50,300
They just took off.
541
00:24:50,300 --> 00:24:51,434
Copy.
542
00:24:53,034 --> 00:24:53,868
TRAVIS:
Well, they're off.
543
00:24:53,968 --> 00:24:55,701
BRANDON:
Yeah.
544
00:24:56,901 --> 00:24:59,368
I always feel a sense
of conflict,
545
00:24:59,368 --> 00:25:01,401
having my brother operating
546
00:25:01,401 --> 00:25:04,400
the helicopter
above the ranch, but he
547
00:25:05,502 --> 00:25:09,034
is eager to be a part
of the discovery.
548
00:25:09,101 --> 00:25:10,934
(panting)
549
00:25:12,301 --> 00:25:13,734
-(clears throat)
-BRYANT: Cameron, do you copy?
550
00:25:21,134 --> 00:25:22,434
THOMAS:
Right there!
551
00:25:22,968 --> 00:25:24,868
All right, Cameron,
that's the spot.
552
00:25:29,734 --> 00:25:30,634
Be ready.
553
00:25:40,168 --> 00:25:42,367
Okay, Cameron, in five...
554
00:25:45,168 --> 00:25:47,634
Two, one. Go.
555
00:25:49,268 --> 00:25:53,002
-THOMAS: Holy crap.
-BRYANT: It's coming this way.
556
00:25:53,202 --> 00:25:55,434
-There it is. See it?
Right there. There it is.
-Yup.
557
00:25:56,335 --> 00:25:57,702
TRAVIS:
Oh, so, there. Look.
558
00:25:57,702 --> 00:25:59,802
Did you see
that he's dropped another one?
559
00:25:59,902 --> 00:26:02,434
They're gonna do five.
I've seen at least three.
560
00:26:32,534 --> 00:26:33,601
Holy crap. (sighs)
561
00:26:36,435 --> 00:26:39,802
Hey, uh, I was just getting some
pretty sharp pains in my head.
562
00:26:39,802 --> 00:26:42,201
-Okay.
-For now I'm just going
to leave the ranch
563
00:26:42,201 --> 00:26:43,868
-for a little while.
-Absolutely. Please.
564
00:26:44,301 --> 00:26:46,767
Just go make sure, and then
let us know how you're feeling
565
00:26:46,767 --> 00:26:47,734
-once you get off.
-Yeah.
566
00:26:48,435 --> 00:26:50,468
BRYANT:
Thomas, all of a sudden,
turned to me and said,
567
00:26:50,468 --> 00:26:52,801
"I have a headache
and I'm leaving the ranch."
568
00:26:52,801 --> 00:26:54,801
And given his history
on this ranch,
569
00:26:55,201 --> 00:26:57,801
I was 100% on board
with getting him out of here.
570
00:26:58,834 --> 00:26:59,901
That's not all right.
571
00:27:09,535 --> 00:27:11,335
BRYANT: It proved to be
a little bit more difficult
572
00:27:11,335 --> 00:27:13,034
for Cameron to get
his helicopter in place
573
00:27:13,034 --> 00:27:14,668
for this thousand-foot drop.
574
00:27:14,802 --> 00:27:17,601
And then, as Thomas was
sighting up the launch pad
575
00:27:17,601 --> 00:27:18,368
that we have there
576
00:27:18,368 --> 00:27:20,568
to make sure that they were
directly above the triangle,
577
00:27:20,568 --> 00:27:23,235
he started to talk about
having some neck and head pain,
578
00:27:23,235 --> 00:27:24,602
which is very concerning,
579
00:27:24,602 --> 00:27:26,167
and we decided
to get him off the ranch.
580
00:27:27,701 --> 00:27:28,968
Hey, Travis, do you copy?
581
00:27:29,734 --> 00:27:31,168
Hey.
582
00:27:32,202 --> 00:27:35,702
Thomas has started to get a bit
of a tingling pain in his neck.
583
00:27:35,935 --> 00:27:38,434
So he's decided to go ahead
and leave the ranch.
584
00:27:38,968 --> 00:27:40,133
Was Thomas all right?
585
00:27:44,701 --> 00:27:46,133
Understood.
586
00:27:47,802 --> 00:27:50,901
It seems like it's always Thomas
that is targeted.
587
00:27:51,101 --> 00:27:54,068
TRAVIS: Thomas told me
the very first time I met him
588
00:27:54,168 --> 00:27:56,368
that the ranch responds
to people differently.
589
00:27:56,568 --> 00:27:59,834
And as crazy as that sounds,
I believe he's right.
590
00:28:00,168 --> 00:28:02,301
There's something
going on here that seems
591
00:28:02,301 --> 00:28:07,368
to cause physiological effects,
sometimes specifically on him.
592
00:28:07,368 --> 00:28:09,534
So we're going to pay close
attention to how he's doing.
593
00:28:10,368 --> 00:28:13,001
Let me know, uh, when you guys
are ready to make the drops.
594
00:28:13,001 --> 00:28:14,033
We're watching you now.
595
00:28:15,535 --> 00:28:17,802
TRAVIS: After completing
the first set of ball drops
596
00:28:17,802 --> 00:28:20,401
over the triangle
around the 1,000-foot altitude,
597
00:28:20,602 --> 00:28:23,401
Cameron ascended
just above 5,000 feet
598
00:28:23,468 --> 00:28:25,535
so that Kaleb
could drop five more
599
00:28:25,535 --> 00:28:27,435
to see what would happen
to them as they fell
600
00:28:27,435 --> 00:28:29,467
all the way through
the anomalous zone.
601
00:28:43,602 --> 00:28:46,768
TRAVIS: After Erik detected
the 1.6 gigahertz signal
602
00:28:46,768 --> 00:28:49,968
and Thomas's health episode
during the 1,000-foot drop,
603
00:28:49,968 --> 00:28:51,235
we didn't know what to expect
604
00:28:51,235 --> 00:28:53,168
once Cameron reached
the mile-high zone.
605
00:28:53,468 --> 00:28:55,968
But as soon as he got up there,
the helicopter was
606
00:28:55,968 --> 00:28:58,934
suddenly pushed around
by major gusts of wind.
607
00:29:03,734 --> 00:29:06,133
Yeah, go ahead, Cameron.
608
00:29:13,502 --> 00:29:15,335
Copy that, Cameron.
I think that's the way to go.
609
00:29:15,335 --> 00:29:18,167
We'll start clearing
out of the way.
610
00:29:35,301 --> 00:29:37,134
Are they at 5,000 feet?
611
00:29:37,134 --> 00:29:39,702
Uh...
612
00:29:39,702 --> 00:29:43,668
Oh, no, they're at 9,750
above sea level,
613
00:29:43,668 --> 00:29:45,968
puts them about
4,000 feet or so,
614
00:29:47,068 --> 00:29:50,267
uh, above ground level, yeah,
and climbing.
615
00:30:42,235 --> 00:30:44,834
(alarm beeping)
616
00:30:52,968 --> 00:30:54,235
Why-why are they going so fast?
617
00:30:54,235 --> 00:30:56,367
Where are they going?
That-that is weird.
618
00:31:07,668 --> 00:31:08,901
BRYANT:
Hey, Cameron, do you copy?
619
00:31:09,767 --> 00:31:10,601
CAMERON:
Yeah, go ahead.
620
00:31:11,235 --> 00:31:12,734
What are you showing
your altitude at?
621
00:31:17,367 --> 00:31:18,133
Copy that.
622
00:31:20,368 --> 00:31:21,567
I only got four.
623
00:31:22,368 --> 00:31:24,001
You dropped all of them?
624
00:31:25,567 --> 00:31:27,100
BRYANT:
Copy that.
625
00:31:28,235 --> 00:31:30,468
Yeah, he's still headed
off to the west.
626
00:31:30,468 --> 00:31:31,634
Where-where is he going?
627
00:31:32,602 --> 00:31:33,801
BRANDON:
I think something's wrong.
628
00:31:40,468 --> 00:31:42,435
Given the unknown nature
of what we're dealing with
629
00:31:42,435 --> 00:31:43,534
here on Skinwalker Ranch,
630
00:31:44,001 --> 00:31:46,702
security and safety
are very important.
631
00:31:46,835 --> 00:31:49,602
We don't know what it is
that we're interacting with,
632
00:31:49,768 --> 00:31:53,502
so keeping it secure and
keeping the scientific integrity
633
00:31:53,502 --> 00:31:56,702
of what we have going on here
is of utmost importance.
634
00:31:56,902 --> 00:31:59,734
So we need Cameron to get
back down on the ground safely.
635
00:32:06,002 --> 00:32:08,502
ERIK:
There are, of course, inherent
dangers in flying in general.
636
00:32:08,502 --> 00:32:10,767
But I would say
that this attempt
637
00:32:10,767 --> 00:32:12,834
to study this area has been
638
00:32:12,834 --> 00:32:14,502
a resounding success.
639
00:32:14,702 --> 00:32:17,168
We have all kinds
of new data coming out.
640
00:32:17,368 --> 00:32:19,435
But I want to see
what was captured.
641
00:32:19,435 --> 00:32:21,801
-CAMERON: That was weird.
-ERIK: That was weird.
642
00:32:26,535 --> 00:32:28,100
-TRAVIS: Brandon.
-BRANDON: It's good to be back,
gentlemen.
643
00:32:29,435 --> 00:32:30,935
-It's good to see you.
-Hey.
644
00:32:30,935 --> 00:32:32,901
-Good to see you.
-I've been worried about you.
645
00:32:32,968 --> 00:32:34,768
TRAVIS:
Thankfully, Thomas Winterton
646
00:32:34,768 --> 00:32:36,634
felt better
after getting off the ranch.
647
00:32:36,801 --> 00:32:38,835
And we were all very relieved
648
00:32:38,835 --> 00:32:40,601
that he was able to come back
a couple of days
649
00:32:40,601 --> 00:32:41,701
after our experiment.
650
00:32:42,068 --> 00:32:43,301
It was good timing, too,
651
00:32:43,301 --> 00:32:46,001
because we were just about
to review the data
652
00:32:46,001 --> 00:32:47,934
that we had collected
over the triangle
653
00:32:47,934 --> 00:32:50,235
with Brandon
and Attorney General Sean Reyes.
654
00:32:50,235 --> 00:32:51,735
Hello.
655
00:32:51,735 --> 00:32:54,101
-It's good to have you with us.
-Good to see you all.
656
00:32:54,668 --> 00:32:57,301
So, we're gonna be,
uh, looking at this,
657
00:32:57,602 --> 00:32:59,468
uh, for some of us,
for the very first time,
658
00:32:59,468 --> 00:33:01,068
and, boy, did we have
some interesting things
659
00:33:01,068 --> 00:33:01,868
coming out of it.
660
00:33:02,134 --> 00:33:04,001
Well, I'm interested
and excited, Erik.
661
00:33:04,168 --> 00:33:06,468
Uh, while you were
flying, Cameron,
662
00:33:06,468 --> 00:33:09,401
you probably remember
that I attached a GPS locator,
663
00:33:09,401 --> 00:33:11,934
uh, a data-logging device
to the helicopter.
664
00:33:11,934 --> 00:33:13,635
-That's right.
-Um, and so, I'll share
665
00:33:13,768 --> 00:33:15,801
some data, uh,
that shows the trajectory
666
00:33:15,801 --> 00:33:17,534
of the helicopter during that.
667
00:33:20,268 --> 00:33:21,168
TRAVIS:
Oh, wow.
668
00:33:21,602 --> 00:33:23,201
There's clearly
some issues with this.
669
00:33:23,201 --> 00:33:23,869
ERIK (stammers):
Yes.
670
00:33:23,935 --> 00:33:25,868
They're jumping-- they're
glaring over the triangle.
671
00:33:25,868 --> 00:33:27,400
TRAVIS:
So, my first question
672
00:33:28,001 --> 00:33:30,435
is, I really don't recall
673
00:33:30,435 --> 00:33:34,435
seeing you guys
go way off of the ranch,
674
00:33:34,502 --> 00:33:36,635
like this big top circle
that's there.
675
00:33:37,135 --> 00:33:39,368
ERIK:
That's a really prominent
feature in the data.
676
00:33:39,368 --> 00:33:40,468
TRAVIS:
And that's miles.
677
00:33:40,535 --> 00:33:42,868
I know that's not
what we did with the helicopter.
678
00:33:42,868 --> 00:33:45,035
-That was my question for you.
-Not at all.
679
00:33:45,035 --> 00:33:47,467
I want to draw some attention
to those vertical movements.
680
00:33:48,301 --> 00:33:49,502
ERIK:
I've actually measured
681
00:33:49,502 --> 00:33:51,868
the vertical distance
from this point here,
682
00:33:52,201 --> 00:33:53,401
to the top of whatever
683
00:33:53,401 --> 00:33:54,601
-this maneuver is.
-Mm-hmm.
684
00:33:54,667 --> 00:33:57,201
It's 666.1 feet.
685
00:33:57,201 --> 00:33:58,734
-Yeah, no way.
-Did-did you do anything...
686
00:34:00,001 --> 00:34:01,467
No, I would have
had to be in the hover,
687
00:34:01,467 --> 00:34:03,068
flying straight up
688
00:34:03,235 --> 00:34:05,502
in a hovering climb
to do that maneuver.
689
00:34:05,502 --> 00:34:06,502
And I wouldn't have done that.
690
00:34:06,502 --> 00:34:08,335
It wouldn't have been
safe or ideal.
691
00:34:08,335 --> 00:34:10,601
-We never did anything
like that.
-No.
692
00:34:10,701 --> 00:34:11,969
BRANDON:
That is strange.
693
00:34:11,969 --> 00:34:15,133
And that it happened
right above the triangle.
694
00:34:16,201 --> 00:34:17,568
CAMERON:
Geographically,
695
00:34:17,702 --> 00:34:19,901
it does not match up
with what we were flying.
696
00:34:19,901 --> 00:34:20,668
THOMAS:
He's having problems
697
00:34:20,668 --> 00:34:23,068
with his instruments,
and I was feeling
698
00:34:23,068 --> 00:34:25,034
that buzz from that metal tower.
699
00:34:25,335 --> 00:34:27,535
I wonder if that
is the period of time
700
00:34:27,535 --> 00:34:29,501
when you're seeing
the anomaly in the GPS.
701
00:34:30,235 --> 00:34:32,169
TRAVIS:
Thomas's question was spot-on
702
00:34:32,169 --> 00:34:36,034
because at the same time the
helicopter GPS
went haywire,
703
00:34:36,034 --> 00:34:37,567
he had his health episode.
704
00:34:37,801 --> 00:34:39,834
And this also happened
705
00:34:39,834 --> 00:34:41,702
right when Erik
started detecting
706
00:34:41,702 --> 00:34:44,301
the 1.6 gigahertz signal
over the triangle.
707
00:34:44,301 --> 00:34:45,702
So, the question was:
708
00:34:45,768 --> 00:34:48,301
could something have caused
all those things
709
00:34:48,301 --> 00:34:50,067
to happen simultaneously?
710
00:34:51,335 --> 00:34:53,001
ERIK:
I'm gonna share some video.
711
00:34:53,535 --> 00:34:56,401
This is a video recording
taken from ground level
712
00:34:56,401 --> 00:35:00,435
right at the triangle, looking
up at the, at the aircraft,
713
00:35:00,502 --> 00:35:03,134
and, um, well,
it's best I just show you.
714
00:35:03,134 --> 00:35:05,735
-Yeah? I'm anxious to see.
-Okay, I'll just ask you
715
00:35:05,802 --> 00:35:08,767
-if you see the feature
about which I'm speaking.
-Okay.
716
00:35:10,734 --> 00:35:12,667
ERIK:
This, as you noticed,
717
00:35:12,667 --> 00:35:14,969
it said, "embossed effect," uh,
718
00:35:14,969 --> 00:35:18,468
on the, uh, on the caption
there, because what's happening
719
00:35:18,468 --> 00:35:21,467
is I'm-I'm applying a filter
to the video.
720
00:35:22,201 --> 00:35:24,001
When you adjust
the contrast like that,
721
00:35:24,001 --> 00:35:26,400
you start to see
unusual features.
722
00:35:27,435 --> 00:35:29,301
-The circle is behind?
-Ugh.
723
00:35:29,768 --> 00:35:32,235
ERIK:
This artifact right here.
724
00:35:32,235 --> 00:35:33,767
This feature right here.
725
00:35:33,767 --> 00:35:35,368
TRAVIS:
Oh.
726
00:35:35,368 --> 00:35:37,667
-Oh, my God.
-Holy cow.
727
00:35:39,902 --> 00:35:41,435
TRAVIS: And it's following you,
i-it's like...
728
00:35:41,502 --> 00:35:43,068
Yeah, there's
something following...
729
00:35:43,335 --> 00:35:45,502
SEAN:
Gentlemen, what the heck
730
00:35:45,502 --> 00:35:47,067
is flying around in my state?
731
00:35:54,934 --> 00:35:56,435
CAMERON:
That is probably the...
732
00:35:56,502 --> 00:35:58,034
the most significant thing
I've seen
733
00:35:58,034 --> 00:35:59,367
flying next to the helicopter.
734
00:36:01,702 --> 00:36:05,235
TRAVIS:
Wow, it was great
that we had high-speed cameras
735
00:36:05,235 --> 00:36:08,068
recording our experiment
over the triangle two days ago
736
00:36:08,268 --> 00:36:10,735
because, at about the same time
737
00:36:10,735 --> 00:36:12,868
that our GPS device
malfunctioned,
738
00:36:13,134 --> 00:36:15,734
Erik detected
the 1.6 gigahertz signal
739
00:36:15,968 --> 00:36:17,869
and Thomas got
a sudden headache,
740
00:36:17,869 --> 00:36:22,367
we captured a clear-as-day UAP
right next to the helicopter.
741
00:36:23,934 --> 00:36:25,435
This is in broad daylight.
742
00:36:25,435 --> 00:36:28,268
This is a physical UFO
743
00:36:28,835 --> 00:36:32,335
with the reflection
off of one side,
744
00:36:32,335 --> 00:36:34,401
-glinting off of it,
captured all on video.
-That's right.
745
00:36:34,401 --> 00:36:36,635
-Like it's metallic
or something.
-Yeah.
746
00:36:36,635 --> 00:36:40,268
That is a solid object
with the same reflective quality
747
00:36:40,268 --> 00:36:43,734
that the helicopter exhibits
right above it.
748
00:36:44,168 --> 00:36:45,968
TRAVIS:
Is there any chance
you can zoom in on it?
749
00:36:45,968 --> 00:36:47,033
Um, certainly.
750
00:36:47,567 --> 00:36:48,801
TRAVIS:
On that side.
751
00:36:49,701 --> 00:36:50,467
There we go.
752
00:36:51,101 --> 00:36:52,868
That's what I was wanting
to see right there.
753
00:36:55,201 --> 00:36:57,001
It almost seems like
there's a point here.
754
00:36:57,001 --> 00:36:58,435
-TRAVIS: I was
just about to say...
-You see that?
755
00:36:58,435 --> 00:36:59,802
Kind of like a top?
756
00:36:59,802 --> 00:37:01,902
-You know, I actually...
-Like a triangle.
757
00:37:01,902 --> 00:37:04,134
Actually, if you think
about the perspective
758
00:37:04,134 --> 00:37:05,001
you're looking at it...
759
00:37:06,801 --> 00:37:08,502
if you look at it,
760
00:37:08,502 --> 00:37:12,235
you can kind of see
a hemisphere here
761
00:37:12,235 --> 00:37:15,767
and maybe a hemisphere--
th-this could be
762
00:37:15,901 --> 00:37:17,835
very similar to the orb.
763
00:37:17,835 --> 00:37:21,134
It could be two spheres
with the separation,
764
00:37:21,134 --> 00:37:22,601
'cause it looks like
there might be
765
00:37:22,601 --> 00:37:23,934
a separation right there.
766
00:37:26,235 --> 00:37:28,902
Just two weeks ago,
we captured images
767
00:37:28,902 --> 00:37:31,401
of a UAP at night
during our drone experiment
768
00:37:31,535 --> 00:37:35,201
that looked very similar
to the strange metallic aircraft
769
00:37:35,201 --> 00:37:36,835
that a Navy pilot photographed
770
00:37:36,835 --> 00:37:40,435
off the coast of Virginia
in 2019.
771
00:37:40,502 --> 00:37:42,668
Now, we may have
actually documented
772
00:37:42,668 --> 00:37:45,034
another mysterious craft
in the anomalous zone
773
00:37:45,034 --> 00:37:45,968
above the triangle.
774
00:37:46,368 --> 00:37:49,200
So, what the heck is it,
and where did it come from?
775
00:37:49,968 --> 00:37:52,634
This might be the most
convincing evidence
776
00:37:52,901 --> 00:37:54,869
-I've seen, Brandon.
-BRANDON: Yeah.
777
00:37:54,935 --> 00:37:56,934
I'm glad you were there,
Attorney General,
778
00:37:56,934 --> 00:37:58,535
because at least you saw
779
00:37:58,535 --> 00:38:00,968
that there were other
strange things happening
780
00:38:00,968 --> 00:38:02,568
that seem to correspond
781
00:38:02,702 --> 00:38:06,134
with what we've captured here
with this camera.
782
00:38:06,535 --> 00:38:09,701
And this kind of phenomena
being captured on camera,
783
00:38:10,667 --> 00:38:12,702
it is no surprise
784
00:38:12,969 --> 00:38:18,368
that we're seeing military craft
immediately enter the scene
785
00:38:18,368 --> 00:38:20,068
-above the ranch.
-Yeah.
786
00:38:20,668 --> 00:38:23,068
SEAN:
So, Brandon,
I did some digging around,
787
00:38:23,068 --> 00:38:26,134
reached out to one
of my contacts to check
788
00:38:26,134 --> 00:38:29,235
on the origin and destination
of that Black Hawk.
789
00:38:29,435 --> 00:38:31,601
TRAVIS:
Oh, you found out
some more information on that?
790
00:38:32,101 --> 00:38:32,869
I found
791
00:38:32,869 --> 00:38:36,367
this flight path
that you can see on the screen.
792
00:38:37,468 --> 00:38:40,002
So, the Black Hawk took off
793
00:38:40,002 --> 00:38:42,601
from Heber Valley Airport
in Heber City, Utah--
794
00:38:43,268 --> 00:38:45,234
it's what we call
McDonald Airfield--
795
00:38:45,734 --> 00:38:48,400
came around over the ranch,
796
00:38:49,535 --> 00:38:52,701
and then turned around
and made its way
797
00:38:52,868 --> 00:38:55,767
back down
into the Salt Lake area.
798
00:38:56,201 --> 00:38:59,567
And you can see that
in that yellow flight path.
799
00:39:01,034 --> 00:39:02,767
And when we called, Brandon,
800
00:39:03,535 --> 00:39:06,400
and asked what they were
doing or who it was,
801
00:39:06,701 --> 00:39:07,134
they had no comment.
802
00:39:07,201 --> 00:39:09,768
-No comment.
-BRANDON: It could be
803
00:39:09,768 --> 00:39:11,968
of a classified nature,
but obviously
804
00:39:11,968 --> 00:39:14,101
they're not sharing
any information.
805
00:39:14,101 --> 00:39:15,968
No information forthcoming.
806
00:39:16,468 --> 00:39:19,434
So it's confirmed,
it was a Black Hawk helicopter?
807
00:39:19,701 --> 00:39:20,435
SEAN:
Yes, sir.
808
00:39:20,435 --> 00:39:22,201
Black Hawk helicopter.
809
00:39:22,268 --> 00:39:25,934
How did they get here
at just the right time
810
00:39:26,335 --> 00:39:29,767
to fly over and-and see
the experiment,
811
00:39:29,767 --> 00:39:31,802
and then hover and-and wait--
812
00:39:31,802 --> 00:39:33,368
I mean, they waited here
five or ten minutes.
813
00:39:33,368 --> 00:39:34,534
SEAN:
Travis,
814
00:39:34,868 --> 00:39:36,634
I-I-- that I cannot explain.
815
00:39:38,667 --> 00:39:40,734
This is absolute evidence
816
00:39:41,368 --> 00:39:42,701
that we're being monitored.
817
00:39:42,901 --> 00:39:44,768
-There's no other explanation.
-Yeah.
818
00:39:44,969 --> 00:39:46,701
BRANDON:
Attorney General,
thank you so much
819
00:39:46,701 --> 00:39:47,468
for patching in.
820
00:39:47,468 --> 00:39:49,401
You saw it first, with us.
821
00:39:49,401 --> 00:39:52,568
We'll stay in touch, and, uh,
appreciate all of your help
822
00:39:52,568 --> 00:39:55,634
and your interest
in our ongoing investigation.
823
00:39:55,868 --> 00:39:57,468
SEAN:
Mr. Fugal and your team,
824
00:39:57,468 --> 00:39:59,734
thank you. Always
professionals.
825
00:39:59,801 --> 00:40:01,267
-Thank you.
-All right, thanks.
826
00:40:03,468 --> 00:40:05,834
So, we've got a lot to consider.
827
00:40:06,301 --> 00:40:09,801
Uh, this is some
of the most stunning footage yet
828
00:40:09,801 --> 00:40:10,602
here at the ranch.
829
00:40:10,602 --> 00:40:14,235
So, how do we follow up
on this incredible data?
830
00:40:14,401 --> 00:40:15,701
That really is the question.
831
00:40:15,701 --> 00:40:17,235
BRYANT:
Well, this says,
832
00:40:17,368 --> 00:40:19,268
we need to focus
on the triangle.
833
00:40:19,268 --> 00:40:21,934
Yeah. All right. We just got
to figure out what to do next
834
00:40:21,934 --> 00:40:23,602
-and move on.
-BRYANT: All right.
835
00:40:23,668 --> 00:40:25,034
Let's get you out the door
and...
836
00:40:25,235 --> 00:40:27,401
-Okay. Thank you.
-Good to see you guys.
837
00:40:27,401 --> 00:40:28,201
-BRANDON: All right, guys.
-CAMERON: Yeah.
838
00:40:28,268 --> 00:40:29,635
BRANDON:
We have definitely seen
839
00:40:29,635 --> 00:40:32,035
an elevated degree of interest
840
00:40:32,035 --> 00:40:35,534
from covert military units
surveilling the property.
841
00:40:37,902 --> 00:40:39,467
The fact that
they are not transponding,
842
00:40:40,268 --> 00:40:43,435
that they are cloaking
their identity with intent,
843
00:40:43,435 --> 00:40:47,134
and deliberately--
and, I think, aggressively--
844
00:40:47,201 --> 00:40:48,968
monitoring our efforts,
845
00:40:49,201 --> 00:40:51,134
is something
that is both concerning
846
00:40:51,134 --> 00:40:52,567
but it's also validating.
847
00:40:57,101 --> 00:40:59,401
That underscores how important
848
00:40:59,902 --> 00:41:02,001
the research is
at Skinwalker Ranch.
849
00:41:08,368 --> 00:41:10,001
TRAVIS:
We don't know what it is,
there's a big anomaly
850
00:41:10,001 --> 00:41:12,068
in the ground-penetrating radar
right there.
851
00:41:12,068 --> 00:41:13,501
Wow.
852
00:41:13,501 --> 00:41:15,301
(metal squealing)
853
00:41:15,702 --> 00:41:17,401
KALEB:
What in the hell is that thing?
854
00:41:17,401 --> 00:41:19,134
BRYANT:
That doesn't look natural
855
00:41:19,134 --> 00:41:20,300
or like it should be there.
856
00:41:22,134 --> 00:41:23,001
TRAVIS:
There we go.
857
00:41:23,502 --> 00:41:25,168
THOMAS:
Uh... Oh! There it is.
858
00:41:25,235 --> 00:41:27,068
Hey, I just saw
a purple light over there.
859
00:41:27,168 --> 00:41:28,201
TRAVIS:
With our night vision,
860
00:41:28,201 --> 00:41:30,301
there's something right over
Thomas down there,
861
00:41:30,301 --> 00:41:32,767
in the sky blinking
at about ten degrees up.
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