Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated:
1
00:00:05,655 --> 00:00:06,896
THOMAS: If we were to come in
and dig again,
2
00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,310
would we get any response?
3
00:00:08,413 --> 00:00:09,793
Where you dig
makes a difference.
4
00:00:10,586 --> 00:00:12,517
-[rattling]
-[engine stops]
5
00:00:12,620 --> 00:00:13,965
It's got a dead battery.
6
00:00:14,068 --> 00:00:16,551
ERIK:
What the actual hell is this?
7
00:00:16,655 --> 00:00:18,310
-You got to get those people
out of there.
-Okay.
8
00:00:18,413 --> 00:00:20,620
BRYANT:
There was a spike at 3400.
9
00:00:20,724 --> 00:00:22,517
Everybody out of here, now.
10
00:00:25,068 --> 00:00:27,793
Erik, are you doing
something at 1.6?
11
00:00:27,896 --> 00:00:29,758
I'm not broadcasting.
12
00:00:29,862 --> 00:00:30,965
TRAVIS:
That's a communication
signal or something.
13
00:00:31,068 --> 00:00:33,482
This is out of
the carriage house.
14
00:00:33,586 --> 00:00:34,793
BRYANT:
What the hell is that?
15
00:00:34,896 --> 00:00:36,379
You captured a UAP on camera.
16
00:00:38,448 --> 00:00:41,655
NARRATOR:
There is a ranch
in Northern Utah.
17
00:00:41,758 --> 00:00:44,413
It is considered the epicenter
18
00:00:44,517 --> 00:00:49,000
of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
19
00:00:49,103 --> 00:00:51,448
animal mutilations,
20
00:00:51,551 --> 00:00:53,931
bizarre UFO sightings
21
00:00:54,034 --> 00:00:59,068
and unusual energies that have
proven harmful to humans.
22
00:00:59,172 --> 00:01:01,620
For 20 years,
the federal government
23
00:01:01,724 --> 00:01:04,931
tried to find answers
and failed.
24
00:01:05,034 --> 00:01:08,724
Now a new team
of dedicated scientists,
25
00:01:08,827 --> 00:01:12,620
researchers and experts
has taken over.
26
00:01:12,724 --> 00:01:16,827
They are determined to solve
the mystery and reveal...
27
00:01:19,965 --> 00:01:22,689
...The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
28
00:01:30,482 --> 00:01:32,551
How's it going, Chris?
29
00:01:32,655 --> 00:01:34,344
-Hey, Kaleb. How's it going?
-Good, good.
30
00:01:34,448 --> 00:01:35,517
TRAVIS: To help us
with our ongoing investigation
31
00:01:35,620 --> 00:01:37,310
of Skinwalker Ranch,
32
00:01:37,413 --> 00:01:39,862
we've been trying to engage
as many people as possible
33
00:01:39,965 --> 00:01:41,965
who took part
in the previous operations
34
00:01:42,068 --> 00:01:43,862
over the last two decades.
35
00:01:43,965 --> 00:01:45,551
What's it like coming back?
36
00:01:45,655 --> 00:01:47,379
It's pretty surreal, actually,
you know.
37
00:01:47,482 --> 00:01:49,758
It's kind of like being back
home a little bit, you know.
38
00:01:51,310 --> 00:01:53,965
TRAVIS:
Chris Bartel
is a former military officer
39
00:01:54,068 --> 00:01:56,137
who was contracted
by Robert Bigelow
40
00:01:56,241 --> 00:01:58,206
and the Defense
Intelligence Agency
41
00:01:58,310 --> 00:01:59,689
when they were
investigating Skinwalker Ranch
42
00:01:59,793 --> 00:02:01,448
several years ago.
43
00:02:01,551 --> 00:02:03,379
We used to have trouble
getting guys like him
44
00:02:03,482 --> 00:02:06,000
to share anything about
what they've seen out here.
45
00:02:06,103 --> 00:02:08,551
Well, it's an "it"
that's in control.
46
00:02:10,206 --> 00:02:12,103
TRAVIS:
But after last week's visit by
another former Bigelow employee,
47
00:02:12,206 --> 00:02:14,137
Colonel John Alexander,
48
00:02:14,241 --> 00:02:16,793
and the federal government's
report last year
49
00:02:16,896 --> 00:02:18,793
acknowledging
the existence of UAPs,
50
00:02:18,896 --> 00:02:21,448
it's like the floodgates
have finally opened up.
51
00:02:22,482 --> 00:02:25,103
I know, a couple years ago,
I was worried about, you know,
52
00:02:25,206 --> 00:02:27,034
maybe possibly losing
a clearance talking about
53
00:02:27,137 --> 00:02:28,620
some of the experiences
I had here on the property.
54
00:02:28,724 --> 00:02:30,551
Losing a clearance as far as?
55
00:02:30,655 --> 00:02:32,241
-Like a security clearance?
-Right, it was a concern
56
00:02:32,344 --> 00:02:33,241
'cause, you know,
I'm still active
57
00:02:33,344 --> 00:02:34,448
in the federal department,
58
00:02:34,551 --> 00:02:35,965
I'm still operating and, uh,
59
00:02:36,068 --> 00:02:38,448
now it's more of a
mainstream topic, it seems like.
60
00:02:39,482 --> 00:02:41,000
I was
a BAASS Security Investigator
61
00:02:41,103 --> 00:02:42,931
for Bigelow Aerospace
for Skinwalker Ranch
62
00:02:43,034 --> 00:02:46,103
from the years 2010 to 2016.
63
00:02:46,206 --> 00:02:48,241
BAASS stands for
Bigelow Aerospace
64
00:02:48,344 --> 00:02:49,827
Advanced Space Studies.
65
00:02:49,931 --> 00:02:53,793
It was the organization
to study UFO phenomena.
66
00:02:53,896 --> 00:02:57,379
This is also during the time
of the federal contract, AAWSAP.
67
00:02:57,482 --> 00:02:59,551
AAWSAP stands for
Advanced Aerospace
68
00:02:59,655 --> 00:03:02,275
Weapon Systems
Applications Program.
69
00:03:02,379 --> 00:03:04,068
I was one of
the lead members out here.
70
00:03:04,172 --> 00:03:07,206
I spent lots of time exploring,
documenting data
71
00:03:07,310 --> 00:03:09,068
and also safekeeping
and protecting the property.
72
00:03:09,172 --> 00:03:11,344
I have a lot of
experiences out here.
73
00:03:11,448 --> 00:03:13,517
You know, I lived and breathed
this property for six years.
74
00:03:13,620 --> 00:03:15,000
I would love to show you guys
75
00:03:15,103 --> 00:03:17,413
some of the things
that I went through
76
00:03:17,517 --> 00:03:19,068
and important aspects
of the property.
77
00:03:19,172 --> 00:03:20,689
THOMAS:
Well, I'm eager to do that.
78
00:03:20,793 --> 00:03:22,689
I think we throw you
in the UTV right here,
79
00:03:22,793 --> 00:03:25,172
and let's start across,
because I-I want to hear
80
00:03:25,275 --> 00:03:26,620
-everything that happened.
-That sounds, that sounds good.
81
00:03:26,724 --> 00:03:27,931
-Okay.
-I appreciate it.
82
00:03:28,034 --> 00:03:30,758
THOMAS:
We have this 20-year gap
83
00:03:30,862 --> 00:03:32,827
where Mr. Bigelow
owned the ranch
84
00:03:32,931 --> 00:03:35,103
for which we know very little.
85
00:03:35,206 --> 00:03:37,344
I think somebody
that spent six years here,
86
00:03:37,448 --> 00:03:39,344
and spent a lot of time
during that six years,
87
00:03:39,448 --> 00:03:43,172
is critical and could be crucial
to helping us solve
88
00:03:43,275 --> 00:03:45,103
some of the mysteries
that are here on the ranch.
89
00:03:45,206 --> 00:03:46,793
CHRIS:
Yeah. Right here.
90
00:03:46,896 --> 00:03:48,344
This is the spot.
91
00:03:48,448 --> 00:03:49,758
Let's park here, then.
92
00:03:54,206 --> 00:03:57,655
I find it interesting
that you, uh, stop us here.
93
00:03:57,758 --> 00:04:00,758
This is by a place
we call the triangle.
94
00:04:01,862 --> 00:04:03,586
Been a place we've done
a lot of experiments
95
00:04:03,689 --> 00:04:05,862
and research and had a lot of
interesting data.
96
00:04:05,965 --> 00:04:08,586
So, I'm curious, tell me
about what you experienced here.
97
00:04:08,689 --> 00:04:12,896
So, October of 2010,
we had a pretty good routine
98
00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,586
where one guy would do
a normal run
99
00:04:14,689 --> 00:04:17,413
through the property to get
kind of eyes on what's going on.
100
00:04:17,517 --> 00:04:19,758
That day,
the other officer came back,
101
00:04:19,862 --> 00:04:21,896
and he was like,
"Hey, I found some big prints
102
00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:22,965
on top of the mesa."
103
00:04:24,310 --> 00:04:26,241
And I'm like, "Okay,
let's go take a look at them."
104
00:04:26,344 --> 00:04:28,413
We get to the top of here,
and we find these gi--
105
00:04:28,517 --> 00:04:30,965
these pretty good-sized
canine prints.
106
00:04:32,275 --> 00:04:34,413
I have photos of those,
if you'd like to see them.
107
00:04:34,517 --> 00:04:36,137
-Yeah, I'd love to see those.
-CHRIS: Sure.
108
00:04:36,241 --> 00:04:37,689
Here. Take a look at this.
You can see here...
109
00:04:37,793 --> 00:04:39,310
Look at those,
look how deep those go down.
110
00:04:41,862 --> 00:04:43,965
-KALEB: Look at that.
-THOMAS: Oh, my gosh.
111
00:04:44,068 --> 00:04:46,551
So, that's about three feet
between step?
112
00:04:46,655 --> 00:04:48,620
CHRIS:
Mm-hmm.
113
00:04:48,724 --> 00:04:51,275
And then, we had
a couple labs with us.
114
00:04:51,379 --> 00:04:54,517
You can see here in the top
corner, the labs' prints.
115
00:04:54,620 --> 00:04:56,724
KALEB:
That thing's like four times
the size of those.
116
00:04:56,827 --> 00:04:57,896
That's a very big canine.
117
00:04:58,965 --> 00:05:00,620
KALEB:
Seeing this picture,
118
00:05:00,724 --> 00:05:03,862
you could tell by both
the size and the stride
119
00:05:03,965 --> 00:05:06,206
that we're talking about
a very large animal.
120
00:05:06,310 --> 00:05:08,724
It makes me think about
the legend of the skinwalker.
121
00:05:10,241 --> 00:05:11,896
The legend of the skinwalker is
122
00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,034
that it's an entity
that can shape-shift.
123
00:05:14,137 --> 00:05:18,655
Often, the lore is having it
go from a wolf to a man.
124
00:05:18,758 --> 00:05:21,793
For whatever reason,
this piece of ground
125
00:05:21,896 --> 00:05:25,000
was cursed with the skinwalker.
126
00:05:26,103 --> 00:05:27,965
I was here, the other officer
was right there,
127
00:05:28,068 --> 00:05:29,827
and the dogs were kind of
in between us.
128
00:05:29,931 --> 00:05:33,482
And the other officer says,
"Chris, stop. I hear something."
129
00:05:33,586 --> 00:05:36,310
And I'll-I'll never forget this,
because it has been replaying
130
00:05:36,413 --> 00:05:38,620
in my mind forever
since this day.
131
00:05:38,724 --> 00:05:40,689
Out of that ditch,
132
00:05:40,793 --> 00:05:45,000
I hear a God-awful, guttural,
howl growl.
133
00:05:46,758 --> 00:05:49,068
And I was, like,
frozen for a second.
134
00:05:49,172 --> 00:05:51,793
So was the other officer
and the dogs were all alerting.
135
00:05:51,896 --> 00:05:54,965
The animal jumps out
of the ravine
136
00:05:55,068 --> 00:05:58,241
over the berm and travels west.
137
00:05:58,344 --> 00:06:01,206
This thing was probably
the size of a donkey, black.
138
00:06:01,310 --> 00:06:03,689
Instinctively,
the dogs chase after it.
139
00:06:03,793 --> 00:06:04,862
I run after the dogs.
140
00:06:04,965 --> 00:06:06,793
We get around that corner there.
141
00:06:06,896 --> 00:06:08,379
It's-it's gone.
142
00:06:08,482 --> 00:06:09,551
THOMAS:
Wow.
143
00:06:11,586 --> 00:06:13,172
I can understand why
Chris was hesitant to share
144
00:06:13,275 --> 00:06:15,034
some of these stories.
145
00:06:15,137 --> 00:06:17,034
If I had heard this
on day one of the ranch,
146
00:06:17,137 --> 00:06:18,724
I would have dismissed Chris.
147
00:06:18,827 --> 00:06:22,551
But after spending five years
here on the ranch, uh...
148
00:06:22,655 --> 00:06:24,862
I-I find myself believing
his story.
149
00:06:24,965 --> 00:06:27,344
Did you come back and look for
tracks the next day, I imagine?
150
00:06:27,448 --> 00:06:28,689
CHRIS:
The next day we came back.
151
00:06:28,793 --> 00:06:30,034
We followed the ditch.
152
00:06:30,137 --> 00:06:31,724
We really didn't find
any tracks.
153
00:06:31,827 --> 00:06:34,034
But there was an area
I found on this mesa slope,
154
00:06:34,137 --> 00:06:36,793
and it led to this open cavity.
155
00:06:36,896 --> 00:06:38,034
Uh, it looked like a cave.
156
00:06:39,793 --> 00:06:41,137
So, I jumped down into it.
157
00:06:41,241 --> 00:06:42,551
I look around, and it's a,
158
00:06:42,655 --> 00:06:44,724
uh, a decent-size open cavity,
159
00:06:44,827 --> 00:06:46,517
but inside the cavern,
I pulled out
160
00:06:46,620 --> 00:06:48,931
two old canine traps.
161
00:06:50,655 --> 00:06:52,275
So, anytime somebody says
the word "cave"
162
00:06:52,379 --> 00:06:53,724
or "cavern" here,
163
00:06:53,827 --> 00:06:55,034
-it catches our attention.
-Right.
164
00:06:55,137 --> 00:06:56,862
-You think it's still there?
-Yeah.
165
00:06:56,965 --> 00:06:58,862
-You mind taking us there to it?
-Absolutely, let's go.
166
00:06:58,965 --> 00:07:00,413
All right.
167
00:07:06,241 --> 00:07:08,344
TRAVIS: I find it interesting
that this DJ said
168
00:07:08,448 --> 00:07:10,931
they were picking up
some kind of weird signal.
169
00:07:11,034 --> 00:07:12,448
Yeah, that's the part
that got my attention.
170
00:07:12,551 --> 00:07:14,344
You know, normally when
you think about a radio station,
171
00:07:14,448 --> 00:07:18,103
you think of them broadcasting
but not receiving anything,
172
00:07:18,206 --> 00:07:19,793
so I'm surprised
that they're vigilant
173
00:07:19,896 --> 00:07:21,206
to any incoming signals.
174
00:07:22,241 --> 00:07:24,172
Well, I can't wait to hear
what they say.
175
00:07:26,551 --> 00:07:29,344
Ranch caretakers
Tom Lewis and Kandus Linde
176
00:07:29,448 --> 00:07:31,931
let me and Erik know that
a local radio station nearby
177
00:07:32,034 --> 00:07:33,758
reached out to them about
178
00:07:33,862 --> 00:07:35,551
a really strange frequency
interference
179
00:07:35,655 --> 00:07:38,620
that's been jamming
their system and it sounds
180
00:07:38,724 --> 00:07:41,758
just like what we experienced
last week on Skinwalker Ranch.
181
00:07:41,862 --> 00:07:43,896
Hey! hey, hey, hey, hey,
it's here.
182
00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,000
We've got that 1.6 thing.
183
00:07:47,103 --> 00:07:49,206
During a lot of
the experiments we've done
184
00:07:49,310 --> 00:07:52,689
to stimulate different
phenomena, including UAPs,
185
00:07:52,793 --> 00:07:56,034
Erik has detected a huge
radio frequency energy spike
186
00:07:56,137 --> 00:07:59,172
of 1.6 gigahertz
on the spectrum analyzer.
187
00:07:59,275 --> 00:08:02,137
And last week, we detected it
after launching a rocket
188
00:08:02,241 --> 00:08:03,517
out by Homestead Two.
189
00:08:03,620 --> 00:08:06,448
-[radio static]
-1.60000.
190
00:08:06,551 --> 00:08:10,517
But this time a mysterious sound
came through with it.
191
00:08:10,620 --> 00:08:12,827
-You want to try
and listen to it?
-ERIK: Yeah.
192
00:08:12,931 --> 00:08:15,206
[radio static, faint squealing]
193
00:08:18,275 --> 00:08:21,862
I swear that sounds
like a communication signal.
194
00:08:23,931 --> 00:08:25,862
So, here we are.
195
00:08:25,965 --> 00:08:28,068
So, when we heard that
a potentially similar signal
196
00:08:28,172 --> 00:08:29,517
was occurring
at a radio station
197
00:08:29,620 --> 00:08:31,758
ten miles away in Roosevelt,
198
00:08:31,862 --> 00:08:34,172
we definitely wanted to meet
with the station manager
199
00:08:34,275 --> 00:08:36,827
and DJ, Jenn Rook.
200
00:08:36,931 --> 00:08:38,827
-Hi!
-Hey, I'm Travis.
201
00:08:38,931 --> 00:08:40,172
-Hi, I'm Jenn.
-Nice to meet you, Jenn.
202
00:08:40,275 --> 00:08:41,896
You, too.
203
00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,827
We wanted to see
if it could be related
204
00:08:43,931 --> 00:08:45,344
to the strange
communication signal
205
00:08:45,448 --> 00:08:47,172
we've detected
on Skinwalker Ranch.
206
00:08:47,275 --> 00:08:50,517
So, we hear you've been
having some weird signals
207
00:08:50,620 --> 00:08:51,827
or interference
with your radio station.
208
00:08:51,931 --> 00:08:53,862
Some interference for sure
209
00:08:53,965 --> 00:08:56,413
and just some other
weird anomalies that happen.
210
00:08:58,448 --> 00:09:00,689
You're talking about
interferences, is it keeping you
211
00:09:00,793 --> 00:09:03,103
from being able to operate
at certain times, or...?
212
00:09:03,206 --> 00:09:05,931
-I livestream online,
and it keeps it from operating.
-TRAVIS: Really?
213
00:09:06,034 --> 00:09:08,413
Like, the online stream was
just absolute fuzz.
214
00:09:08,517 --> 00:09:11,241
It was just
cutting out everything.
215
00:09:11,344 --> 00:09:13,241
It was just
such an interruption.
216
00:09:13,344 --> 00:09:16,620
-You couldn't hear
the radio station online.
-Wow.
217
00:09:16,724 --> 00:09:20,172
So, if I was listening
to your station,
218
00:09:20,275 --> 00:09:24,068
and I hear, uh,
some kind of a problem,
219
00:09:24,172 --> 00:09:25,896
-JENN: Mm-hmm.
-I would expect to hear what?
220
00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,931
Static? Strange tones?
221
00:09:28,034 --> 00:09:29,896
Signals that don't belong
in your signal stream?
222
00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,586
What would I hear?
223
00:09:31,689 --> 00:09:34,724
Uh, I mean, you could
probably hear any of that.
224
00:09:34,827 --> 00:09:37,551
-Wow.
-You know, we've heard
some weird stuff,
225
00:09:37,655 --> 00:09:40,068
and we see weird signals
at the ranch
226
00:09:40,172 --> 00:09:42,620
that we can't figure out
where they're coming from,
227
00:09:42,724 --> 00:09:44,896
and we've found this one that
seems to be repeating
228
00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,896
around here all the time,
near 1.6 gigahertz.
229
00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,137
Travis, can you bring that up
and play it?
230
00:09:50,241 --> 00:09:52,379
Yeah. I believe it's this one
right here.
231
00:09:52,482 --> 00:09:53,724
Mm-hmm.
232
00:09:53,827 --> 00:09:55,310
[static, squealing]
233
00:09:58,103 --> 00:10:01,620
You know, I've heard
something similar to this
234
00:10:01,724 --> 00:10:03,724
along with all of
the fuzz that I get
235
00:10:03,827 --> 00:10:05,000
that I know is interference.
236
00:10:06,517 --> 00:10:07,724
-Really?
-JENN: Yeah.
237
00:10:07,827 --> 00:10:09,275
There's something not right,
238
00:10:09,379 --> 00:10:12,172
and I've had people look at it
and try to fix it,
239
00:10:12,275 --> 00:10:15,758
-but it's a signal that
is not supposed to be there.
-Wow.
240
00:10:15,862 --> 00:10:18,172
TRAVIS:
After we verified
that Jenn believed that
241
00:10:18,275 --> 00:10:21,241
the 1.6 gigahertz communication
signal from the ranch
242
00:10:21,344 --> 00:10:23,517
was very similar to the one
243
00:10:23,620 --> 00:10:25,586
that's been coming through
the radio station,
244
00:10:25,689 --> 00:10:27,413
it made both
Erik and I think that
245
00:10:27,517 --> 00:10:30,241
maybe we could use it
to try to communicate back
246
00:10:30,344 --> 00:10:32,482
to whoever sent it
in the first place.
247
00:10:32,586 --> 00:10:36,620
Uh, we couldn't, by any chance,
talk you into maybe broadcasting
248
00:10:36,724 --> 00:10:38,758
this strange signal
that we've picked up?
249
00:10:38,862 --> 00:10:40,034
-Uh...
-And see if we'll
detect something
250
00:10:40,137 --> 00:10:42,000
with our instruments
when you do.
251
00:10:42,103 --> 00:10:44,931
Are we poking a bear here,
or...?
252
00:10:45,034 --> 00:10:47,206
-[laughs]
-Well-well,
the expression that I use is
253
00:10:47,310 --> 00:10:49,758
one my grandmother taught me and
it's "poking the hornets' nest."
254
00:10:49,862 --> 00:10:51,068
-And-and so...
-Okay, let's do it.
Let's poke that hornets' nest.
255
00:10:51,172 --> 00:10:52,517
Let's see if
any hornets fly out, right?
256
00:10:52,620 --> 00:10:53,965
All right, let's do it.
257
00:10:59,448 --> 00:11:01,034
So, we have some equipment
outside, in the car,
258
00:11:02,034 --> 00:11:03,241
we'll run out,give us
we'll get it set up,
259
00:11:03,344 --> 00:11:04,758
-and running.
-Okay. Yeah, let's do it.
260
00:11:04,862 --> 00:11:06,275
So we'll got set up
the equipment.
261
00:11:06,379 --> 00:11:07,724
I'll be right back
and tell you when we're ready.
262
00:11:07,827 --> 00:11:08,448
-All right, sounds good.
-All right. Thank you.
263
00:11:08,551 --> 00:11:10,068
After Jenn Rook,
264
00:11:10,172 --> 00:11:12,413
the station manager at Jack FM,
265
00:11:12,517 --> 00:11:15,758
told us that the 1.6 gigahertz
communication signal
266
00:11:15,862 --> 00:11:17,344
that we've detected
on Skinwalker Ranch
267
00:11:17,448 --> 00:11:19,896
sounded similar to
what's been interfering
268
00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,241
with her station's broadcasts,
269
00:11:22,344 --> 00:11:24,689
we convinced her
to let us run an experiment.
270
00:11:24,793 --> 00:11:26,620
I'm going to go ahead
and start the Jeep
271
00:11:26,724 --> 00:11:29,103
-and tune in
to the radio station.
-Perfect.
272
00:11:29,206 --> 00:11:32,482
TARVIS: The idea was to play
the 1.6 gigahertz signal
273
00:11:32,586 --> 00:11:33,931
over her airwaves...
274
00:11:34,034 --> 00:11:36,689
All right.
I got the radio station up.
275
00:11:36,793 --> 00:11:38,758
...while Erik and I set up
an antenna
276
00:11:38,862 --> 00:11:41,241
with our spectrum analyzer
in the parking lot
277
00:11:41,344 --> 00:11:43,586
so we could monitor
the broadcast
278
00:11:43,689 --> 00:11:46,275
for anything strange
that might happen in response.
279
00:11:46,379 --> 00:11:48,379
All right, I think
that's good right there.
280
00:11:48,482 --> 00:11:50,379
All right.
281
00:11:50,482 --> 00:11:53,413
I'm interested in
watching the RF spectrum
282
00:11:53,517 --> 00:11:55,137
through our spectrum analyzer.
283
00:11:55,241 --> 00:11:56,413
I got really high hopes
that we're going to see
284
00:11:56,517 --> 00:11:57,827
something unusual.
285
00:11:57,931 --> 00:11:59,448
So, I'm-a go in
and tell her we're ready.
286
00:11:59,551 --> 00:12:01,310
All right.
287
00:12:01,413 --> 00:12:03,310
Hey, Jenn. Yeah,
we've got our equipment set up
288
00:12:03,413 --> 00:12:05,310
in the parking lot,
so whenever you're okay
289
00:12:05,413 --> 00:12:06,965
to broadcast the signal,
we're watching.
290
00:12:07,068 --> 00:12:09,965
-All right. Ready.
-All right. Cool. Thanks.
291
00:12:13,241 --> 00:12:15,793
All right, Erik.
She's about to broadcast it.
292
00:12:15,896 --> 00:12:17,931
-All right.
-JENN: Hey there, everybody.
293
00:12:18,034 --> 00:12:19,965
Just a little interruption
in the music right now.
294
00:12:20,068 --> 00:12:22,310
We're doing a few tests
here at the studios,
295
00:12:22,413 --> 00:12:23,482
and, uh, you know what?
296
00:12:23,586 --> 00:12:25,655
I'm going to play
something here.
297
00:12:25,758 --> 00:12:28,137
And if you've heard this,
you can always give me a call
298
00:12:28,241 --> 00:12:29,586
here at the studios
299
00:12:29,689 --> 00:12:31,000
[over radio]:
and let me know.
300
00:12:31,103 --> 00:12:32,896
This is just a test, everybody.
301
00:12:34,724 --> 00:12:36,724
[static, crackling]
302
00:12:40,620 --> 00:12:43,862
[frequency crackling]
303
00:12:43,965 --> 00:12:45,896
♪
304
00:12:47,724 --> 00:12:49,965
There it is.
305
00:12:50,068 --> 00:12:53,896
Wow. It really changed
the waveform big time.
306
00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,655
Look at how the waveforms
are reacting to it there.
307
00:12:56,758 --> 00:12:58,965
You see that?
Watch right here.
308
00:13:01,310 --> 00:13:04,965
When a FM radio station
broadcasts music or anything
309
00:13:05,068 --> 00:13:07,724
over the airwaves,
the frequency always has
310
00:13:07,827 --> 00:13:10,551
a constant
and uniform pattern.
311
00:13:10,655 --> 00:13:12,413
You shouldn't see
any deviation in it
312
00:13:12,517 --> 00:13:14,379
no matter what the sound is.
313
00:13:14,482 --> 00:13:17,206
But as soon as Jenn
started broadcasting the sound
314
00:13:17,310 --> 00:13:19,379
from our 1.6 gigahertz signal,
315
00:13:19,482 --> 00:13:21,586
the station's frequency
began showing strange,
316
00:13:21,689 --> 00:13:23,068
sporadic spikes.
317
00:13:23,172 --> 00:13:24,862
Now, that shouldn't be possible.
318
00:13:24,965 --> 00:13:26,862
So, it really made us wonder
319
00:13:26,965 --> 00:13:29,137
if our experiment
might stimulate
320
00:13:29,241 --> 00:13:31,793
something strange out here
in the Basin community.
321
00:13:31,896 --> 00:13:33,896
And, if so,
would it be anything
322
00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,413
like the phenomena we've seen
on Skinwalker Ranch?
323
00:13:39,137 --> 00:13:41,206
This has just been a test,
everybody.
324
00:13:41,310 --> 00:13:43,206
Thanks for listening. I'll put
you back to the music now.
325
00:13:43,310 --> 00:13:45,413
I'm Jenn Rook.
326
00:13:46,620 --> 00:13:48,172
All right, well, I say
we go tell her what we saw.
327
00:13:48,275 --> 00:13:49,551
Yeah. Let's go follow up.
328
00:13:50,758 --> 00:13:52,862
I wonder what the locals thought
that was listening to
329
00:13:52,965 --> 00:13:54,206
-the radio station.
-Oh, my gosh.
330
00:13:54,310 --> 00:13:55,344
[Erik chuckles]
331
00:13:55,448 --> 00:13:57,000
TRAVIS:
Wow.
332
00:13:57,103 --> 00:13:59,310
That was pretty cool.
Thank you for that.
333
00:13:59,413 --> 00:14:02,241
Yeah, we, uh, were
watching the spectrum
334
00:14:02,344 --> 00:14:06,137
all around your signal
and when you were broadcasting,
335
00:14:06,241 --> 00:14:09,931
the, uh,
the waveform actually changed.
336
00:14:10,034 --> 00:14:12,620
Normally it has a certain shape,
337
00:14:12,724 --> 00:14:16,275
-Mm-hmm.
-and when you started
that signal,
338
00:14:16,379 --> 00:14:18,620
it changed to something
completely different.
339
00:14:18,724 --> 00:14:20,620
-Hmm.
-TRAVIS: It was really odd.
340
00:14:20,724 --> 00:14:23,241
Now,
the interesting question is...
341
00:14:23,344 --> 00:14:25,896
-if there's
any kind of response...
-Oh, yeah.
342
00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,103
...what form will it take and
how will we find out about it?
343
00:14:29,206 --> 00:14:30,379
Yeah, if anybody calls you
and says,
344
00:14:30,482 --> 00:14:31,896
"Hey, what was
that weird thing?"
345
00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,275
Or "I had a headache
when that was going,"
346
00:14:33,379 --> 00:14:35,103
-you know, or whatever.
-JENN: Yeah.
347
00:14:35,206 --> 00:14:36,448
-Okay.
-TRAVIS: Especially if someone
happens to see
348
00:14:36,551 --> 00:14:38,793
a UFO or UAP,
or something strange
349
00:14:38,896 --> 00:14:41,689
in the sky, anything at all,
please let us know.
350
00:14:41,793 --> 00:14:44,931
-Okay.
-You may be able to
provide some information
351
00:14:45,034 --> 00:14:46,827
that's very helpful to
our research going on,
352
00:14:46,931 --> 00:14:48,620
-so thank you
for accommodating us today.
-All right.
353
00:14:48,724 --> 00:14:50,793
-Oh, yeah, anytime.
-It was great to meet you.
354
00:14:50,896 --> 00:14:52,448
-You, too.
-Yeah. Thank you very much.
355
00:14:52,551 --> 00:14:54,103
JENN:
Thanks, guys.
356
00:14:56,896 --> 00:15:00,448
CHRIS: So, it's gonna be
in this little area right here,
357
00:15:00,551 --> 00:15:03,000
where I was walking down
from the top of the mesa
358
00:15:03,103 --> 00:15:05,551
and I found a cave.
359
00:15:05,655 --> 00:15:08,034
THOMAS:
Over the years that
I have been here on the ranch,
360
00:15:08,137 --> 00:15:11,793
there's been rampant rumors
about underground bases,
361
00:15:11,896 --> 00:15:14,517
of tunnels, all kinds of
underground things
362
00:15:14,620 --> 00:15:16,000
here at the ranch.
363
00:15:16,103 --> 00:15:18,620
If there are some,
we definitely want to find them.
364
00:15:18,724 --> 00:15:21,344
I just happened to notice it
from on top.
365
00:15:21,448 --> 00:15:23,689
Then I-I suggest maybe
we just all climb up there
366
00:15:23,793 --> 00:15:25,172
-and see if we can find it.
-CHRIS: Yeah.
367
00:15:25,275 --> 00:15:27,172
♪
368
00:15:40,448 --> 00:15:42,827
Hey, I found
what looks like to be a cavern.
369
00:15:42,931 --> 00:15:44,275
CHRIS:
Let me take a look.
370
00:15:47,413 --> 00:15:49,620
Oh, yeah.
371
00:15:49,724 --> 00:15:52,482
I'm pretty sure this is it,
or it-it looks like it.
372
00:15:53,896 --> 00:15:56,517
THOMAS:
You can tell that at one time
it was a lot larger.
373
00:15:56,620 --> 00:15:58,931
And it's collapsed down
in on itself.
374
00:15:59,034 --> 00:16:00,413
CHRIS:
You can tell
that this whole area
375
00:16:00,517 --> 00:16:02,068
looks like a sunken-in area.
376
00:16:02,172 --> 00:16:04,172
-THOMAS: Like it caved in. Yeah.
-CHRIS: Yeah.
377
00:16:04,275 --> 00:16:06,758
It's so strange.
378
00:16:06,862 --> 00:16:10,758
THOMAS:
If this is the opening
to that cave that Chris found,
379
00:16:10,862 --> 00:16:13,379
did it collapse?
Is it still there?
380
00:16:13,482 --> 00:16:16,551
Does it continue back,
and it's just covered by rocks?
381
00:16:16,655 --> 00:16:18,586
Definitely a lot of
unanswered questions.
382
00:16:18,689 --> 00:16:20,482
There's been one consistent
thing I've heard
383
00:16:20,586 --> 00:16:22,413
since I've been here on the
ranch for the last five years
384
00:16:22,517 --> 00:16:25,068
and that's there is
a system of tunnels
385
00:16:25,172 --> 00:16:26,482
that goes throughout the ranch.
386
00:16:26,586 --> 00:16:29,896
We've got reports of
UFO flying into the mesa,
387
00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,068
that we have people
that think that
388
00:16:31,172 --> 00:16:32,724
there's underground bases here.
389
00:16:32,827 --> 00:16:34,517
We've yet to find it.
Who knows?
390
00:16:34,620 --> 00:16:37,482
Maybe this is the entrance
or maybe this is a way in,
391
00:16:37,586 --> 00:16:39,241
and, uh, I'm all
for figuring out
392
00:16:39,344 --> 00:16:41,241
a safe way to explore this more.
393
00:16:41,344 --> 00:16:44,379
Well, I'm ready to head down
if you guys are.
394
00:16:44,482 --> 00:16:46,586
-I appreciate you showing us,
Chris.
-Hey, no problem, man.
395
00:16:49,172 --> 00:16:51,068
There's multiple layers
to this property.
396
00:16:51,172 --> 00:16:54,275
I think what's going on here
is bigger than any of us here.
397
00:16:54,379 --> 00:16:56,758
It's bigger than
a science experiment.
398
00:16:56,862 --> 00:16:58,827
It's bigger than
a government contract.
399
00:16:58,931 --> 00:17:00,758
It's bigger than all of us.
400
00:17:00,862 --> 00:17:03,655
How else can I explain
some of this stuff
401
00:17:03,758 --> 00:17:05,137
throughout all those years?
402
00:17:05,241 --> 00:17:07,310
THOMAS:
Okay, we got our GPS data.
403
00:17:07,413 --> 00:17:09,034
We know where it's at.
404
00:17:09,137 --> 00:17:10,758
Let's get out of here.
405
00:17:20,344 --> 00:17:22,000
Hey, there's Jim.
406
00:17:23,310 --> 00:17:24,724
-Hello, guys.
-ERIK and TRAVIS: Hey, Jim.
407
00:17:24,827 --> 00:17:26,827
-What's going on?
-JIM: Good to see you.
408
00:17:26,931 --> 00:17:29,482
The day after Erik
and I conducted our experiment
409
00:17:29,586 --> 00:17:32,413
at Jack FM,
ranch manager Jim Morse
410
00:17:32,517 --> 00:17:35,068
showed up to share
something pretty crazy with us.
411
00:17:35,172 --> 00:17:37,379
Been doing a little outreach.
412
00:17:37,482 --> 00:17:40,034
I had a guy that, uh,
sent me some videos.
413
00:17:40,137 --> 00:17:42,241
-TRAVIS: This is local?
-This is local.
414
00:17:42,344 --> 00:17:44,724
-Oh.
-Yeah, so,
maybe I can show you these,
415
00:17:44,827 --> 00:17:46,724
and you can make heads or tails
out of them.
416
00:17:46,827 --> 00:17:48,758
What are we looking at here?
417
00:17:48,862 --> 00:17:50,551
-I guess it's these lights
right here.
-JIM: Mm-hmm.
418
00:17:50,655 --> 00:17:53,517
[indistinct chatter]
419
00:17:53,620 --> 00:17:55,517
TRAVIS:
Where did this come from?
420
00:17:55,620 --> 00:17:57,103
Is this from
the community nearby?
421
00:17:57,206 --> 00:17:58,896
JIM:
Yeah, this is from the community
out here in the basin.
422
00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,241
-TRAVIS: Uh-huh.
-JIM: Um...
423
00:18:00,344 --> 00:18:03,310
I mean, there was people
from Moon Lake,
424
00:18:03,413 --> 00:18:05,310
-miles away,
that saw the lights.
-Really?
425
00:18:05,413 --> 00:18:07,137
Well, you know, looking at that,
426
00:18:07,241 --> 00:18:08,655
first I thought it was stars,
427
00:18:08,758 --> 00:18:10,379
-but look, look, they're moving.
-Yeah.
428
00:18:13,034 --> 00:18:14,517
TARVIS:
Look at that.
429
00:18:14,620 --> 00:18:16,000
ERIK:
Wow.
430
00:18:18,655 --> 00:18:20,482
Jim, when was this video taken?
431
00:18:20,586 --> 00:18:22,793
Last night, about 8:00 p.m.
432
00:18:22,896 --> 00:18:24,310
TRAVIS: Really?
That's just a few hours
433
00:18:24,413 --> 00:18:25,517
after we played
that sound on the radio, Erik.
434
00:18:25,620 --> 00:18:26,793
No kidding.
435
00:18:26,896 --> 00:18:28,137
It definitely stirred up
436
00:18:28,241 --> 00:18:29,862
a lot of interest out here.
437
00:18:29,965 --> 00:18:30,965
Look, and in the next video,
they're in
438
00:18:31,068 --> 00:18:32,344
completely different kind of...
439
00:18:32,448 --> 00:18:34,000
-They've moved a bunch.
-JIM: Yeah.
440
00:18:34,103 --> 00:18:35,344
TRAVIS:
And there's a bunch.
441
00:18:35,448 --> 00:18:37,034
There's, like,
four or five of them.
442
00:18:39,793 --> 00:18:41,482
-ERIK: Wow.
-TRAVIS: Well,
that is interesting.
443
00:18:41,586 --> 00:18:42,793
It's like some kind of formation
444
00:18:42,896 --> 00:18:44,137
of the lights,
they're doing something.
445
00:18:44,241 --> 00:18:46,448
Now, if we actually stimulated
446
00:18:46,551 --> 00:18:48,965
these UAP to appear
by broadcasting
447
00:18:49,068 --> 00:18:50,965
the sound from
our 1.6 gigahertz signal
448
00:18:51,068 --> 00:18:54,000
out to Roosevelt,
that's incredible.
449
00:18:54,103 --> 00:18:56,137
They definitely didn't look like
any conventional aircraft
450
00:18:56,241 --> 00:18:57,655
I've ever seen.
451
00:18:57,758 --> 00:18:59,379
-It looks like five lights.
-Mm-hmm.
452
00:18:59,482 --> 00:19:01,344
What on earth?
453
00:19:01,448 --> 00:19:03,172
They're clearly moving.
454
00:19:03,275 --> 00:19:04,724
They're flying,
455
00:19:04,827 --> 00:19:06,551
and I don't see
any airplane navigation lights.
456
00:19:06,655 --> 00:19:08,379
JIM:
No, I didn't either.
I didn't either.
457
00:19:08,482 --> 00:19:09,931
-ERIK: I couldn't see
a single blink.
-TRAVIS: Yeah.
458
00:19:10,034 --> 00:19:11,413
-I don't know what that is.
-JIM: Yeah.
459
00:19:11,517 --> 00:19:13,758
I got to tell you, though,
it's intriguing.
460
00:19:13,862 --> 00:19:15,551
Yeah, I-I want to pick this
apart frame by frame.
461
00:19:15,655 --> 00:19:18,172
-Yeah, yeah, yeah.
-Let me take a look at this.
462
00:19:18,275 --> 00:19:20,482
I've never seen a pattern
463
00:19:20,586 --> 00:19:23,379
of this many mysterious lights
in the sky,
464
00:19:23,482 --> 00:19:24,862
after any of our activities.
465
00:19:24,965 --> 00:19:25,862
-You know, usually we see one.
-One.
466
00:19:25,965 --> 00:19:28,137
Maybe two. But that's pretty...
467
00:19:28,241 --> 00:19:29,896
That's pretty exciting.
I don't know what that means.
468
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,551
JIM:
Yeah. That's more
than a coincidence.
469
00:19:32,655 --> 00:19:34,517
TRAVIS:
Seeing these videos
was incredible,
470
00:19:34,620 --> 00:19:37,034
because it wasn't just
multiple UAPs
471
00:19:37,137 --> 00:19:38,931
that appeared at the same time.
472
00:19:39,034 --> 00:19:40,931
They also seemed
to be maneuvering
473
00:19:41,034 --> 00:19:42,689
in a coordinated formation.
474
00:19:42,793 --> 00:19:44,172
-[static]
-There it is.
475
00:19:44,275 --> 00:19:46,206
Wow.
476
00:19:46,310 --> 00:19:48,172
When we broadcasted our signal
at the radio station,
477
00:19:48,275 --> 00:19:51,103
we could see a very definite
frequency register
478
00:19:51,206 --> 00:19:54,310
on the spectrum analyzer,
as if something was responding.
479
00:19:54,413 --> 00:19:57,413
What I want to know is
if these UAP
480
00:19:57,517 --> 00:20:00,034
were also stimulated
by our experiment.
481
00:20:00,137 --> 00:20:02,413
Clearly,
we now have an investigation
482
00:20:02,517 --> 00:20:05,000
that goes beyond the boundaries
of Skinwalker Ranch.
483
00:20:05,965 --> 00:20:07,517
Well, if you get
any stuff like this,
484
00:20:07,620 --> 00:20:09,413
-absolutely let us see it.
-Okay. Yeah. Thank you.
485
00:20:09,517 --> 00:20:10,551
Especially, you know,
getting the date and the time
486
00:20:10,655 --> 00:20:12,482
with it also, that's great.
487
00:20:12,586 --> 00:20:15,000
You guys really stirred
the old, uh, hornets' nest up.
488
00:20:15,103 --> 00:20:16,413
Yeah.
489
00:20:16,517 --> 00:20:18,517
Okay, well,
if I can borrow this
490
00:20:18,620 --> 00:20:19,517
-long enough
to get the video off...
-JIM: Yep, absolutely.
491
00:20:19,620 --> 00:20:21,137
Absolutely.
492
00:20:21,241 --> 00:20:23,034
And I'm gonna tear it apart
frame by frame.
493
00:20:23,137 --> 00:20:24,896
-[laughs]
-Yeah, yeah, yeah.
494
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:25,862
-I'll get back to
the neighbor, okay.
-All right.
495
00:20:25,965 --> 00:20:27,172
-Thanks a lot.
-Thanks so much.
496
00:20:27,275 --> 00:20:28,620
-I'll get this back to you soon.
-Thank you.
497
00:20:28,724 --> 00:20:29,034
-See you later, Jim.
-Thank you.
498
00:20:41,034 --> 00:20:42,344
THOMAS:
All right.
499
00:20:43,620 --> 00:20:46,172
-Well...
-BRYANT: Yup.
500
00:20:46,275 --> 00:20:48,310
This is the area
we're looking at.
501
00:20:48,413 --> 00:20:50,862
THOMAS: After our meeting
with Chris Bartel,
502
00:20:50,965 --> 00:20:52,551
we brought Jake Huffman out,
503
00:20:52,655 --> 00:20:55,620
who has spent his career
building oil well sites
504
00:20:55,724 --> 00:20:58,689
and as part of that, uh,
has used a lot of explosives
505
00:20:58,793 --> 00:21:00,413
and done a lot of blasting.
506
00:21:00,517 --> 00:21:02,965
We wanted to get
his eyes on the mesa
507
00:21:03,068 --> 00:21:05,206
and see if he could tell
if this was a natural cave-in
508
00:21:05,310 --> 00:21:07,793
or a purposeful one,
and what the best method
509
00:21:07,896 --> 00:21:10,068
for getting into the mesa
would be.
510
00:21:10,172 --> 00:21:13,103
Well, about a quarter of
the way down from the top,
511
00:21:13,206 --> 00:21:18,000
there's an opening where
that little clay slough-off is.
512
00:21:18,103 --> 00:21:20,620
We had a former guard
from Bigelow's era
513
00:21:20,724 --> 00:21:22,551
that told us about
this large opening
514
00:21:22,655 --> 00:21:25,103
he'd climbed down in,
there were some traps and stuff,
515
00:21:25,206 --> 00:21:27,206
but it appeared
like it had collapsed in.
516
00:21:27,310 --> 00:21:29,034
And the whole time
we've been here,
517
00:21:29,137 --> 00:21:31,758
we've heard reports of
these large tunnels
518
00:21:31,862 --> 00:21:34,655
that people can walk clear,
clear back in.
519
00:21:34,758 --> 00:21:36,103
-Really?
-Uh-huh.
520
00:21:36,206 --> 00:21:38,103
Some underground bases
and, I mean, you name it.
521
00:21:38,206 --> 00:21:39,551
We've heard
all kinds of crazy things
522
00:21:39,655 --> 00:21:40,758
about this hill.
523
00:21:40,862 --> 00:21:42,344
And we've searched and searched
524
00:21:42,448 --> 00:21:45,241
and haven't found anything
that resembles that
525
00:21:45,344 --> 00:21:47,793
until we got to this spot,
526
00:21:47,896 --> 00:21:50,103
and it does appear
like there could have been
527
00:21:50,206 --> 00:21:53,068
a large opening
that went back and it caved in.
528
00:21:53,172 --> 00:21:55,344
♪
529
00:21:55,448 --> 00:21:56,758
JAKE:
I'd like to take a closer look,
530
00:21:56,862 --> 00:21:58,827
see if maybe we can see
some signs
531
00:21:58,931 --> 00:22:02,000
-of any drilling activity.
-THOMAS: Okay.
532
00:22:02,103 --> 00:22:03,551
Go ahead.
533
00:22:03,655 --> 00:22:06,551
We're just gonna go
right up here to the base.
534
00:22:10,206 --> 00:22:12,620
Looking at it,
do you see anything
535
00:22:12,724 --> 00:22:14,000
that would indicate to you
536
00:22:14,103 --> 00:22:17,413
that this was collapsed
on purpose?
537
00:22:17,517 --> 00:22:18,965
JAKE:
Actually, yeah.
538
00:22:21,275 --> 00:22:23,344
Usually, if you have a slough,
539
00:22:23,448 --> 00:22:26,517
then you're gonna have material
that's built up somewhere,
540
00:22:26,620 --> 00:22:30,103
you know, and I'm not seeing
anywhere where...
541
00:22:30,206 --> 00:22:32,793
softer material or mud
or anything
542
00:22:32,896 --> 00:22:35,172
-pushed out from underneath it.
-That was pushed out?
543
00:22:36,448 --> 00:22:37,827
That's a good point.
544
00:22:37,931 --> 00:22:40,344
-Hmm.
-JAKE: That tells me
545
00:22:40,448 --> 00:22:42,482
this was done for a purpose.
546
00:22:44,965 --> 00:22:47,448
I don't know
what that purpose would be.
547
00:22:47,551 --> 00:22:49,827
I can't see the rock
having a value
548
00:22:49,931 --> 00:22:51,827
as landscaping rocks, or...
549
00:22:53,103 --> 00:22:56,827
I believe at some point
there was blasting done,
550
00:22:56,931 --> 00:23:02,379
and perhaps that was done
to hide something.
551
00:23:03,827 --> 00:23:07,103
THOMAS:
Jake suggests that blasting
has occurred in this area,
552
00:23:07,206 --> 00:23:10,965
that perhaps the face of
this mesa has been collapsed in,
553
00:23:11,068 --> 00:23:13,931
and if so, it makes me wonder,
why did they collapse it in?
554
00:23:14,034 --> 00:23:15,724
Was it for safety,
to keep people out
555
00:23:15,827 --> 00:23:19,137
of these, uh, tunnels or mines,
or whatever they were,
556
00:23:19,241 --> 00:23:21,413
or were they trying
to hide something?
557
00:23:21,517 --> 00:23:22,724
We got to talk to
Erik and Travis about all this
558
00:23:22,827 --> 00:23:24,896
and see what they think.
559
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,586
THOMAS:
We definitely need to
investigate it a lot more.
560
00:23:27,689 --> 00:23:28,724
-Yep.
-So...
561
00:23:28,827 --> 00:23:30,689
We appreciate your expertise.
562
00:23:30,793 --> 00:23:31,827
I can only imagine we'll
have you back out here again.
563
00:23:31,931 --> 00:23:33,275
Whatever I can do to help.
564
00:23:33,379 --> 00:23:35,275
-Okay.
-Okay. We appreciate it.
Thank you.
565
00:23:43,586 --> 00:23:46,620
THOMAS: We had an interesting
visit with Chris Bartel.
566
00:23:46,724 --> 00:23:48,034
Chris shared
some experiences that he had
567
00:23:48,137 --> 00:23:49,655
while he was here on the ranch.
568
00:23:49,758 --> 00:23:52,310
One of them,
he was going across the mesa.
569
00:23:52,413 --> 00:23:56,379
He was following some very,
very large tracks.
570
00:23:56,482 --> 00:23:59,689
The stride of this animal
is like three feet.
571
00:23:59,793 --> 00:24:01,103
That's a big animal.
572
00:24:01,206 --> 00:24:02,724
He used the term canine,
573
00:24:02,827 --> 00:24:05,172
but those tracks
looked like a very large wolf.
574
00:24:05,275 --> 00:24:09,551
And as he came down,
he found this cavern.
575
00:24:09,655 --> 00:24:12,862
It was pretty large,
and there were large traps
576
00:24:12,965 --> 00:24:14,827
that had been set down
inside of this.
577
00:24:16,172 --> 00:24:19,034
The interesting thing was, is
that when you look down in it,
578
00:24:19,137 --> 00:24:22,344
you can tell that
the rocks have collapsed down.
579
00:24:22,448 --> 00:24:23,724
Wait, wait,
so you've actually seen it?
580
00:24:23,827 --> 00:24:26,137
Yes, and I have
a solid GPS coordinate
581
00:24:26,241 --> 00:24:28,724
for the actual opening.
582
00:24:28,827 --> 00:24:30,172
So, if you provide
the coordinates,
583
00:24:30,275 --> 00:24:32,448
I can actually bring it up
on the screen.
584
00:24:32,551 --> 00:24:35,034
TRAVIS:
Ever since I joined the team
two years ago,
585
00:24:35,137 --> 00:24:37,827
I've wanted to investigate
the stories about caves
586
00:24:37,931 --> 00:24:39,586
and supposed
underground caverns,
587
00:24:39,689 --> 00:24:41,931
but we just couldn't find any.
588
00:24:42,034 --> 00:24:43,103
-I say we pull this up
on the screen and look at it.
-OTHERS: Yeah.
589
00:24:43,206 --> 00:24:45,206
Yeah, let's do that.
590
00:24:45,310 --> 00:24:48,241
So, when Thomas said that
former Bigelow team member
591
00:24:48,344 --> 00:24:52,551
Chris Bartel showed them where
one was possibly covered over,
592
00:24:52,655 --> 00:24:55,068
I couldn't wait to learn more.
593
00:24:55,172 --> 00:24:57,689
THOMAS:
It's about three-quarters
of the way up the mesa,
594
00:24:57,793 --> 00:24:59,896
and it looks like
595
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,413
there potentially could
have been a much larger cavern
596
00:25:02,517 --> 00:25:06,103
that the whole thing has just
kind of sunk in and collapsed.
597
00:25:06,206 --> 00:25:08,517
Is this close to
where we're starting to see
598
00:25:08,620 --> 00:25:12,172
some of the GPS anomalies where
they vanished into the mesa?
599
00:25:12,275 --> 00:25:14,931
Now, that is a great question.
600
00:25:15,034 --> 00:25:17,758
Actually, it's the opposite.
601
00:25:17,862 --> 00:25:19,931
In some of our exercises,
602
00:25:20,034 --> 00:25:21,724
we've seen things seem to emerge
603
00:25:21,827 --> 00:25:24,482
from about that part
of the mesa.
604
00:25:24,586 --> 00:25:25,965
-Hmm.
-Really?
605
00:25:26,068 --> 00:25:28,620
♪
606
00:25:28,724 --> 00:25:30,862
-TRAVIS: Package away.
-Earlier this summer,
607
00:25:30,965 --> 00:25:33,655
we conducted two different
aerial experiments
608
00:25:33,758 --> 00:25:36,275
over the triangle area,
using GPS sensors...
609
00:25:36,379 --> 00:25:37,827
ERIK:
I'm getting something, yeah.
610
00:25:37,931 --> 00:25:39,862
...trying to pinpoint
the location
611
00:25:39,965 --> 00:25:41,620
where we keep detecting
high-energy spikes
612
00:25:41,724 --> 00:25:43,620
about a mile above the ranch.
613
00:25:43,724 --> 00:25:46,310
These blue cubes represent
614
00:25:46,413 --> 00:25:49,068
the position of
the GPS payloads.
615
00:25:49,172 --> 00:25:51,586
It looks like
you smashed into the mesa.
616
00:25:51,689 --> 00:25:54,275
You popped out on this side
right there.
617
00:25:54,379 --> 00:25:57,793
TRAVIS:
But in both cases,
the GPS data we collected
618
00:25:57,896 --> 00:26:00,655
inexplicably showed
that our aircrafts
619
00:26:00,758 --> 00:26:02,310
flew down below the mesa.
620
00:26:02,413 --> 00:26:03,827
Look at that.
621
00:26:03,931 --> 00:26:06,137
That's about
that location right there.
622
00:26:06,241 --> 00:26:09,655
And now it looks like
the exit point corresponds
623
00:26:09,758 --> 00:26:11,827
with this spot
where Chris Bartel says
624
00:26:11,931 --> 00:26:13,344
a cave entrance used to exist.
625
00:26:13,448 --> 00:26:15,344
I don't know yet,
626
00:26:15,448 --> 00:26:17,344
but maybe that's where
627
00:26:17,448 --> 00:26:19,724
our answers about
the triangle area are hidden.
628
00:26:19,827 --> 00:26:22,931
After seeing this,
we brought Jake out here
629
00:26:23,034 --> 00:26:25,172
and had him look at it.
630
00:26:25,275 --> 00:26:28,586
He had a feeling that
it looked like
631
00:26:28,689 --> 00:26:31,000
there had been
some demolition work there.
632
00:26:31,103 --> 00:26:34,172
Did Bigelow's team
discover something
633
00:26:34,275 --> 00:26:36,344
that we have yet to discover?
634
00:26:36,448 --> 00:26:38,172
If there really is a cave there
635
00:26:38,275 --> 00:26:40,241
and it was covered up,
636
00:26:40,344 --> 00:26:41,724
that had to be done
637
00:26:41,827 --> 00:26:43,344
during Bigelow's
ownership of the ranch,
638
00:26:43,448 --> 00:26:45,344
since he's the one
that Brandon bought it from.
639
00:26:45,448 --> 00:26:48,172
So, given that
Bigelow was funded in part
640
00:26:48,275 --> 00:26:50,862
by the federal government
for his research,
641
00:26:50,965 --> 00:26:53,586
what could they have found
that needed to be kept hidden?
642
00:26:53,689 --> 00:26:56,896
It'd be good to get Pete Kelsey
to fly over it
643
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,862
with the infrared camera
644
00:26:58,965 --> 00:27:00,689
and see if there's
any temperature differences
645
00:27:00,793 --> 00:27:02,379
that might suggest
there's an airflow
646
00:27:02,482 --> 00:27:03,862
or a pocket or something.
647
00:27:03,965 --> 00:27:06,896
Absolutely.
I-I've been really impressed
648
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,724
by his work in the past,
and to be able to have him
649
00:27:08,827 --> 00:27:10,586
bring out even more equipment
650
00:27:10,689 --> 00:27:13,241
that's more technologically
advanced would be awesome.
651
00:27:13,344 --> 00:27:14,827
ERIK:
It sounds like we got a plan.
652
00:27:14,931 --> 00:27:16,103
The more detail we can get
653
00:27:16,206 --> 00:27:17,758
about this part of
the property the better.
654
00:27:17,862 --> 00:27:20,413
-We'll get right to it.
-Okay, sounds good.
655
00:27:20,517 --> 00:27:22,448
♪
656
00:27:27,310 --> 00:27:29,586
TRAVIS:
Right in here somewhere?
657
00:27:29,689 --> 00:27:31,241
THOMAS:
Right up on the edge up there.
658
00:27:32,344 --> 00:27:34,551
TRAVIS:
To help us figure out
659
00:27:34,655 --> 00:27:36,413
if this really is
a covered entrance
660
00:27:36,517 --> 00:27:38,413
to something in the mesa,
661
00:27:38,517 --> 00:27:40,310
technologist
Pete Kelsey has brought out
662
00:27:40,413 --> 00:27:42,758
a drone with
a thermal imaging camera
663
00:27:42,862 --> 00:27:45,896
that'll be able to identify
any signs of voids
664
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,448
or caverns below the rubble.
665
00:27:47,551 --> 00:27:49,689
PETE:
This looks great.
666
00:27:49,793 --> 00:27:51,931
-Thank you, sir.
-Uh-huh.
667
00:27:52,034 --> 00:27:54,413
PETE:
The guys have asked me
to look for caves
668
00:27:54,517 --> 00:27:56,310
here on the property.
The thermal camera could be
669
00:27:56,413 --> 00:27:57,758
a really good fit there,
670
00:27:57,862 --> 00:28:01,103
because typically caves,
tunnels,
671
00:28:01,206 --> 00:28:04,482
the air inside is much cooler
than the air outside.
672
00:28:04,586 --> 00:28:06,310
If it shows cold air,
673
00:28:06,413 --> 00:28:08,310
that could mean
that there's a network.
674
00:28:08,413 --> 00:28:10,379
All right,
I got all green lights here.
675
00:28:10,482 --> 00:28:12,517
Ready when you are.
676
00:28:12,620 --> 00:28:15,310
Where's the hole, Thomas?
677
00:28:15,413 --> 00:28:18,655
It's, uh, basically right...
right up there.
678
00:28:18,758 --> 00:28:21,620
You can only see it
from the top down.
679
00:28:21,724 --> 00:28:23,310
You can't see it looking up.
680
00:28:23,413 --> 00:28:25,448
So, I'm gonna just go up there
so that you have
681
00:28:25,551 --> 00:28:27,448
an easy point of reference
as you're trying to locate
682
00:28:27,551 --> 00:28:29,137
where this opening is at.
683
00:28:29,241 --> 00:28:30,655
I think it will be
a lot easier if I'm up there
684
00:28:30,758 --> 00:28:32,896
-standing close to it, so...
-Okay.
685
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,482
Okay, I'm gonna get started.
686
00:28:34,586 --> 00:28:36,241
-Be careful.
-Yup.
687
00:28:36,344 --> 00:28:38,379
♪
688
00:28:38,482 --> 00:28:41,517
In my years on the ranch,
there's been rampant rumors
689
00:28:41,620 --> 00:28:46,413
about underground tunnels,
underground bases,
690
00:28:46,517 --> 00:28:49,034
and really, with the technology
that we're deploying now,
691
00:28:49,137 --> 00:28:51,965
the hopes is to either find it
692
00:28:52,068 --> 00:28:54,000
or-or finally put it to bed
once and for all.
693
00:28:55,379 --> 00:28:57,586
-Right here.
-There?
694
00:28:57,689 --> 00:29:00,896
-Yup.
-Spinning up.
695
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,689
[whirring]
696
00:29:03,793 --> 00:29:05,896
[beeping steadily]
697
00:29:07,275 --> 00:29:08,517
TRAVIS:
So, you're flying
the thermal camera first?
698
00:29:08,620 --> 00:29:10,034
PETE:
Yeah, so the fancy term is
699
00:29:10,137 --> 00:29:12,724
this is a radiometric
thermal camera,
700
00:29:12,827 --> 00:29:14,379
which means it will give me
the temperature.
701
00:29:14,482 --> 00:29:16,379
But it also can do just video.
702
00:29:16,482 --> 00:29:20,103
-ERIK: Very cool.
-Heading for Thomas.
703
00:29:20,206 --> 00:29:22,689
♪
704
00:29:22,793 --> 00:29:24,206
ERIK:
There he is.
705
00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:26,000
PETE:
I will zoom in on him a bit.
706
00:29:28,034 --> 00:29:30,965
So, the hole must be that thing
right in front of him.
707
00:29:31,068 --> 00:29:32,103
Mm-hmm.
708
00:29:33,827 --> 00:29:38,448
Is that hole really the coldest
thing within the field of view?
709
00:29:38,551 --> 00:29:41,206
-Yes. It's black.
-Okay.
710
00:29:41,310 --> 00:29:43,793
PETE:
It's 64 degrees.
711
00:29:43,896 --> 00:29:46,206
Whereas on the rock surfaces
you are at...
712
00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:49,448
Yeah, out in the sun,
it just went to a 102.
713
00:29:49,551 --> 00:29:51,448
A 40-degree difference?
714
00:29:52,655 --> 00:29:54,517
I'm gonna go ahead and take
715
00:29:54,620 --> 00:29:56,034
one of those smoke bombs
up there.
716
00:29:56,137 --> 00:29:57,586
So you guys keep an eye out
down here
717
00:29:57,689 --> 00:29:58,896
and see if you see smoke
coming out.
718
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,655
That is a great idea.
719
00:30:00,758 --> 00:30:02,896
♪
720
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,551
TRAVIS:
In addition to
Pete's high-tech drone,
721
00:30:05,655 --> 00:30:08,068
we also brought along
some low-tech smoke bombs,
722
00:30:08,172 --> 00:30:10,896
to look for evidence of holes
or possible entry points.
723
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,206
Once we drop the bombs,
724
00:30:13,310 --> 00:30:15,379
if the smoke starts emitting
back out of the mesa
725
00:30:15,482 --> 00:30:17,379
from different points
then where we dropped them,
726
00:30:17,482 --> 00:30:19,206
it would be a sign
that there really is
727
00:30:19,310 --> 00:30:21,862
a covered-up cave
or tunnel system
728
00:30:21,965 --> 00:30:24,344
-under all these boulders.
-BRYANT [over walkie]: Hey,
Travis.
729
00:30:24,448 --> 00:30:26,103
We're ready for you to pop
that smoke bomb.
730
00:30:26,206 --> 00:30:28,034
All right,
we're gonna pop a smoke.
731
00:30:28,137 --> 00:30:30,241
Three...
732
00:30:30,344 --> 00:30:32,379
two, one...
733
00:30:32,482 --> 00:30:35,034
Popping smoke, popping smoke.
734
00:30:38,137 --> 00:30:40,413
-ERIK: You see any effect?
-PETE: No.
735
00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:44,241
There, it's starting to
come out. Look at that.
736
00:30:44,344 --> 00:30:46,034
Blue smoke.
737
00:30:46,137 --> 00:30:48,896
Yeah, so I'm getting no love
on the thermal.
738
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,965
So, I'll switch to RGB.
739
00:30:52,931 --> 00:30:55,551
THOMAS:
Oh, it's coming out down here.
740
00:30:55,655 --> 00:30:57,620
TRAVIS:
Oh, look. Look behind you.
741
00:30:57,724 --> 00:30:59,310
It's coming out everywhere.
742
00:30:59,413 --> 00:31:01,758
Ooh, that makes my day.
743
00:31:01,862 --> 00:31:03,793
TRAVIS:
Wow, look at that.
744
00:31:03,896 --> 00:31:05,793
THOMAS:
Little wasps of it down here.
745
00:31:05,896 --> 00:31:09,103
ERIK:
If there's a connection
between these larger openings,
746
00:31:09,206 --> 00:31:11,310
-perhaps that cave
we're talking about.
-PETE: Yeah.
747
00:31:11,413 --> 00:31:13,413
There was a cave at one time.
748
00:31:13,517 --> 00:31:16,275
Thomas and I have found
a couple of holes up here.
749
00:31:16,379 --> 00:31:19,655
I think we're gonna throw
our smoke grenades in there.
750
00:31:19,758 --> 00:31:21,551
So, keep an eye out,
see if you see it coming out
751
00:31:21,655 --> 00:31:24,413
-anywhere on the mesa.
-Copy that, thanks.
752
00:31:24,517 --> 00:31:26,448
Right here.
753
00:31:32,620 --> 00:31:34,931
TRAVIS:
Let it get smoking good.
754
00:31:35,034 --> 00:31:37,482
Oh, that's good,
orange smoke, orange smoke.
755
00:31:38,586 --> 00:31:40,965
Oh, I'm gonna step back.
756
00:31:41,068 --> 00:31:43,758
Yeah, definitely, we got smoke.
757
00:31:43,862 --> 00:31:45,448
PETE:
A little bit.
758
00:31:45,551 --> 00:31:48,275
ERIK:
Yeah.
759
00:31:48,379 --> 00:31:50,103
TRAVIS:
There should be
a lot more smoke coming out.
760
00:31:50,206 --> 00:31:52,620
Actually, look, look,
it's getting sucked in.
761
00:31:52,724 --> 00:31:55,655
TRAVIS:
Yeah, the smoke's going down.
762
00:31:55,758 --> 00:31:57,275
THOMAS:
Oh, look, it's completely gone.
763
00:31:57,379 --> 00:31:58,862
We should be seeing smoke
everywhere.
764
00:31:58,965 --> 00:32:02,172
-There's no smoke.
-There is nothing here.
765
00:32:02,275 --> 00:32:03,965
No smoke?
766
00:32:04,068 --> 00:32:06,655
BRYANT:
I don't see anything.
767
00:32:06,758 --> 00:32:08,586
TRAVIS:
Where did it go?
768
00:32:12,482 --> 00:32:14,586
BRYANT:
Where'd the smoke go?
769
00:32:14,689 --> 00:32:16,172
Where'd it go?
770
00:32:16,275 --> 00:32:17,551
Actually, look, look.
771
00:32:17,655 --> 00:32:18,965
It's getting sucked in.
772
00:32:19,068 --> 00:32:21,379
TRAVIS:
Yeah, the smoke's going down.
773
00:32:21,482 --> 00:32:23,586
The wind's blowing
the smoke down, Dragon.
774
00:32:23,689 --> 00:32:26,137
Really?
775
00:32:26,241 --> 00:32:27,965
THOMAS:
When we dropped smoke bombs
down this opening,
776
00:32:28,068 --> 00:32:29,793
the smoke started to come out,
777
00:32:29,896 --> 00:32:32,137
and then it was as if somebody
turned on a vacuum,
778
00:32:32,241 --> 00:32:34,931
and the smoke just disappeared
and sucked down in the hole.
779
00:32:35,034 --> 00:32:37,241
Yeah,
something's sucking the smoke
780
00:32:37,344 --> 00:32:39,413
into the cave or the hole.
781
00:32:39,517 --> 00:32:41,275
THOMAS:
Nothing.
782
00:32:41,379 --> 00:32:44,586
There's no smoke at all!
783
00:32:44,689 --> 00:32:46,620
That is really strange.
784
00:32:46,724 --> 00:32:47,931
PETE:
Yeah, it's inhaling.
785
00:32:48,034 --> 00:32:49,275
ERIK:
Yeah, it's inhaling all right.
786
00:32:49,379 --> 00:32:51,275
So, if that's an inhale,
the question is,
787
00:32:51,379 --> 00:32:52,724
where are the lungs?
788
00:32:52,827 --> 00:32:54,172
TRAVIS [over walkie]: Hey, Erik,
you copy?
789
00:32:54,275 --> 00:32:56,206
Yeah, go ahead, Travis.
790
00:32:56,310 --> 00:32:58,896
You guys don't see
any smoke down there?
791
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,689
Travis, I could only see
the smoke at the beginning.
792
00:33:01,793 --> 00:33:03,172
It disappeared
just like you reported.
793
00:33:03,275 --> 00:33:05,241
No trace.
794
00:33:05,344 --> 00:33:06,931
I don't see it
coming out of anywhere.
795
00:33:10,275 --> 00:33:11,827
-You going up top?
-Yeah.
796
00:33:11,931 --> 00:33:13,344
TRAVIS:
Thomas is going up top.
797
00:33:13,448 --> 00:33:14,482
Look up there and see
if you can see any smoke
798
00:33:14,586 --> 00:33:15,758
with the drone.
799
00:33:15,862 --> 00:33:17,172
Yeah. All right, panning up.
800
00:33:17,275 --> 00:33:19,172
♪
801
00:33:22,620 --> 00:33:25,620
-You see any effect?
-No.
802
00:33:25,724 --> 00:33:28,620
-TRAVIS: Anything, Thomas?
-No.
803
00:33:28,724 --> 00:33:31,655
TRAVIS:
For the smoke to be getting
pulled down into the mesa,
804
00:33:31,758 --> 00:33:34,586
that means that there's
some kind of cavern or void
805
00:33:34,689 --> 00:33:38,103
sucking the smoke
back underground like a vacuum.
806
00:33:38,206 --> 00:33:40,689
Is it something natural
or could there be
807
00:33:40,793 --> 00:33:43,000
some artificial object
or device causing that?
808
00:33:43,103 --> 00:33:45,655
Hey, guys, I got one more.
809
00:33:45,758 --> 00:33:47,586
Do we want to try
and repeat that?
810
00:33:47,689 --> 00:33:49,000
I say we do. What do you think?
811
00:33:49,103 --> 00:33:50,000
-Yeah.
-Heck, yeah.
812
00:33:50,103 --> 00:33:51,551
-Okay, I'll bring it up.
-Okay.
813
00:33:52,482 --> 00:33:54,241
TRAVIS:
Erik, be advised,
814
00:33:54,344 --> 00:33:56,000
Dragon has
one more smoke grenade.
815
00:33:56,103 --> 00:33:57,000
He's gonna bring it up
and we're gonna drop it
816
00:33:57,103 --> 00:33:59,241
in the hole for a repeat.
817
00:33:59,344 --> 00:34:00,172
Copy that.
818
00:34:00,275 --> 00:34:01,758
You want to do it, Dragon, or...
819
00:34:01,862 --> 00:34:03,310
Sure, I can.
820
00:34:03,413 --> 00:34:04,758
All right, well, look.
821
00:34:04,862 --> 00:34:06,551
We're getting ready
to pop smoke again,
822
00:34:06,655 --> 00:34:08,413
so keep an eye out.
823
00:34:08,517 --> 00:34:12,827
Three, two, one...
824
00:34:15,344 --> 00:34:17,448
Yeah,
that's probably good enough.
825
00:34:19,103 --> 00:34:21,068
-PETE: Purple smoke.
-ERIK: Yeah.
826
00:34:21,172 --> 00:34:22,655
There's just a little bit
coming out,
827
00:34:22,758 --> 00:34:24,172
but that-- N-No.
828
00:34:24,275 --> 00:34:25,931
BRYANT:
Look at it.
829
00:34:26,034 --> 00:34:28,793
-It's pulling it back down.
-Yeah, it is, look at it.
830
00:34:28,896 --> 00:34:30,310
TRAVIS:
Yeah, look, it's pulling it down
right here.
831
00:34:33,517 --> 00:34:36,241
That first little bit
kind of filtered out,
832
00:34:36,344 --> 00:34:38,586
the rest is getting sucked
back down.
833
00:34:38,689 --> 00:34:41,655
THOMAS:
There should be
a lot more smoke than that.
834
00:34:41,758 --> 00:34:44,310
TARVIS:
Those smoke grenades last
a while.
835
00:34:44,413 --> 00:34:46,896
-It's gone.
-It's gone, look.
836
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,172
That's just weird.
837
00:34:49,275 --> 00:34:51,724
Hey, Erik,
same thing happened.
838
00:34:51,827 --> 00:34:52,896
A little bit of smoke came out
839
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,551
then it all just kind of
went away.
840
00:34:54,655 --> 00:34:56,310
Did y'all see any smoke
come out of anywhere?
841
00:34:56,413 --> 00:34:57,896
Not down here, Travis.
842
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,758
Did Thomas see anything
on the back side?
843
00:35:00,862 --> 00:35:03,310
-I don't see anything up here.
-TRAVIS: Yeah?
844
00:35:03,413 --> 00:35:05,482
I even walked back there
up on the ridge a little bit.
845
00:35:05,586 --> 00:35:06,586
I don't see anything.
846
00:35:08,172 --> 00:35:10,103
We've got a lot of data
suggesting that
847
00:35:10,206 --> 00:35:13,000
there's something interesting
going on in this area.
848
00:35:13,103 --> 00:35:15,482
With all the stories
that we've heard of tunnels
849
00:35:15,586 --> 00:35:19,655
and caverns and underground
bases here in the mesa,
850
00:35:19,758 --> 00:35:23,310
I finally feel like we're
starting to make some progress.
851
00:35:23,413 --> 00:35:25,827
Well, it means there's got
to be some sort of an opening,
852
00:35:25,931 --> 00:35:28,827
if it's pulling that much smoke
and none of it's leaking out.
853
00:35:28,931 --> 00:35:31,310
We're out of smoke bombs,
I guess just head down.
854
00:35:31,413 --> 00:35:33,793
All right, I'm landing.
855
00:35:35,241 --> 00:35:37,655
ERIK:
As I like to say,
"We are led by the data."
856
00:35:37,758 --> 00:35:39,965
And all of the data
are pointing to
857
00:35:40,068 --> 00:35:42,310
the existence of a large void,
858
00:35:42,413 --> 00:35:45,034
somewhere inside of
the face of this mesa.
859
00:35:45,137 --> 00:35:48,655
I would love to get eyes on
what's in there.
860
00:35:48,758 --> 00:35:51,310
-Welcome back to earth.
-OTHERS: Yeah.
861
00:35:51,413 --> 00:35:53,827
So you did find something?
862
00:35:53,931 --> 00:35:56,931
Uh, we did find something.
863
00:35:57,034 --> 00:35:59,241
Sure weird, from what I saw
from the air.
864
00:35:59,344 --> 00:36:02,931
It was, it was like the mesa
just took a deep breath.
865
00:36:03,034 --> 00:36:06,586
Yep, you could literally see it
being sucked down into the hole.
866
00:36:06,689 --> 00:36:09,310
And the hole, it seems
like it just went forever.
867
00:36:09,413 --> 00:36:11,379
It was just like
a vacuum cleaner turned on
868
00:36:11,482 --> 00:36:12,896
and it sucked
all that smoke down
869
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:13,724
-and then it was gone.
-Yeah, it was gone.
870
00:36:13,827 --> 00:36:15,379
So, it went somewhere.
871
00:36:15,482 --> 00:36:17,896
That hole goes deeper
than we think.
872
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,793
Well, I think we got to figure
some things out
873
00:36:19,896 --> 00:36:21,793
before we do the next thing.
We really want to do this right.
874
00:36:21,896 --> 00:36:24,448
The experiment
definitely confirmed
875
00:36:24,551 --> 00:36:26,551
that there is something
that we need to explore
876
00:36:26,655 --> 00:36:28,034
deep inside the mesa.
877
00:36:28,137 --> 00:36:30,206
But we're gonna have
to move some earth,
878
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:31,689
and that means digging
or drilling
879
00:36:31,793 --> 00:36:33,241
to find out what it is.
880
00:36:33,344 --> 00:36:34,724
So, we need to have
a serious meeting
881
00:36:34,827 --> 00:36:35,862
with Brandon
and get his blessing,
882
00:36:35,965 --> 00:36:37,724
'cause we've seen in the past,
883
00:36:37,827 --> 00:36:40,758
it's always risky to dig
on Skinwalker Ranch,
884
00:36:40,862 --> 00:36:42,379
but I don't see another choice.
885
00:36:42,482 --> 00:36:44,448
Great work, as always, Pete.
886
00:36:44,551 --> 00:36:46,448
-Thank you very much,
appreciate it.
-Oh, my pleasure.
887
00:36:46,551 --> 00:36:48,551
All right.
We'll load up, head back.
888
00:36:58,068 --> 00:36:59,896
ERIK:
Oh, well, here they are.
889
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,931
TRAVIS:
Now that we've found what may be
890
00:37:02,034 --> 00:37:05,379
a purposely covered up system of
caverns, or who knows what,
891
00:37:05,482 --> 00:37:06,379
in the mesa...
892
00:37:07,482 --> 00:37:10,551
...we need to explain it
to Brandon
893
00:37:10,655 --> 00:37:12,000
and have
a serious discussion about
894
00:37:12,103 --> 00:37:13,827
what he's willing
to allow us to do
895
00:37:13,931 --> 00:37:17,034
to get inside and see
what the heck could be there.
896
00:37:17,137 --> 00:37:18,586
Well, Brandon, as usual,
897
00:37:18,689 --> 00:37:20,034
we have some intriguing things
to report.
898
00:37:20,137 --> 00:37:23,551
We've taken a lot of data
with the GPS experiments,
899
00:37:23,655 --> 00:37:25,034
with the helicopter,
with the airplane,
900
00:37:25,137 --> 00:37:28,206
and we've seemed to find
901
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:30,827
there's an anomaly
that's just a little bit west
902
00:37:30,931 --> 00:37:33,896
of the, uh, triangle that's
causing it to look like...
903
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,655
actually, that
Cameron's helicopter flew us
904
00:37:35,758 --> 00:37:37,379
into the mesa,
905
00:37:37,482 --> 00:37:40,068
and then out of the mesa on top
somehow or other.
906
00:37:40,172 --> 00:37:41,793
-Okay.
-TRAVIS: That's kind of
in the same location
907
00:37:41,896 --> 00:37:44,103
that we've had
an eyewitness suggest
908
00:37:44,206 --> 00:37:45,551
that there was a cave there
in the past.
909
00:37:45,655 --> 00:37:47,586
Really? Oh. Wow.
910
00:37:47,689 --> 00:37:51,827
Chris Bartel, uh,
one of the former guards
911
00:37:51,931 --> 00:37:54,862
for Mr. Bigelow, he came out
here and visited with us,
912
00:37:54,965 --> 00:37:57,034
and he showed us this cavern.
913
00:37:57,137 --> 00:38:00,137
Thomas and I had one of
his associates come out
914
00:38:00,241 --> 00:38:02,275
who's done a lot of
blasting and drilling.
915
00:38:02,379 --> 00:38:03,620
Well, he-he just looked at it,
916
00:38:03,724 --> 00:38:05,620
and he said it does have
the appearance
917
00:38:05,724 --> 00:38:08,965
that it could have been
blasted and collapsed.
918
00:38:09,068 --> 00:38:11,275
Chris Bartel showing us
this cavern
919
00:38:11,379 --> 00:38:12,931
led us to explore further
in that area
920
00:38:13,034 --> 00:38:14,724
to see if we could find
other clues
921
00:38:14,827 --> 00:38:16,965
or maybe other entrances.
922
00:38:17,068 --> 00:38:19,448
-Mm-hmm.
-And we actually did find
some other holes,
923
00:38:19,551 --> 00:38:21,793
uh, which we dropped smoke bombs
down into.
924
00:38:21,896 --> 00:38:24,896
The smoke started to come up
out of the hole and then it was
925
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,448
as if somebody turned on
a vacuum,
926
00:38:26,551 --> 00:38:28,793
and the smoke sucked down
into the hole,
927
00:38:28,896 --> 00:38:30,310
and we never saw
another trace of it.
928
00:38:30,413 --> 00:38:33,068
-Wow.
-That was really strange.
929
00:38:33,172 --> 00:38:35,206
Yeah, it was-- it was odd.
930
00:38:35,310 --> 00:38:40,068
It really suggests that
there is some sort of opening,
931
00:38:40,172 --> 00:38:43,620
uh, network underneath
the rocks, underneath the mesa.
932
00:38:43,724 --> 00:38:48,655
The fact that
the-the smoke experiment showed
933
00:38:48,758 --> 00:38:51,379
that there's some void,
there's something
934
00:38:51,482 --> 00:38:55,068
that is pulling
that material into the mesa,
935
00:38:55,172 --> 00:38:56,931
I mean,
that's-that's a key clue.
936
00:38:57,034 --> 00:38:58,965
Yeah, it was
the most bizarre thing.
937
00:38:59,068 --> 00:39:01,517
There's an airflow
somewhere going into something,
938
00:39:01,620 --> 00:39:03,793
a void somewhere or whatever.
939
00:39:03,896 --> 00:39:05,931
Since it never came out lower,
that suggests
940
00:39:06,034 --> 00:39:08,931
there's an opening underneath,
underneath the mesa out there.
941
00:39:09,034 --> 00:39:12,172
-Yeah.
-As we've discussed before,
942
00:39:12,275 --> 00:39:15,344
this is an area
attended by GPS receivers
943
00:39:15,448 --> 00:39:18,862
behaving anomalously
in that part of the ranch.
944
00:39:18,965 --> 00:39:21,344
What's doing it?
What's interfering with them?
945
00:39:21,448 --> 00:39:24,344
-And what may have been
covered up in the past?
-ERIK: Yeah.
946
00:39:24,448 --> 00:39:26,827
BRANDON:
What were they hiding
in that mesa?
947
00:39:26,931 --> 00:39:28,586
That's the big question, right?
948
00:39:28,689 --> 00:39:30,724
What were they hiding
and why would they
949
00:39:30,827 --> 00:39:34,448
deliberately cover up
their tracks?
950
00:39:34,551 --> 00:39:36,793
I think Thomas has found
the ideal solution.
951
00:39:36,896 --> 00:39:38,344
What would you propose?
952
00:39:38,448 --> 00:39:41,172
Well, I have a,
I have a good friend
953
00:39:41,275 --> 00:39:42,689
that is a driller.
954
00:39:42,793 --> 00:39:45,137
Now, he's a horizontal driller.
955
00:39:45,241 --> 00:39:48,034
This drill is special in
the fact that it's directional,
956
00:39:48,137 --> 00:39:50,482
and it allows him
to steer the bit around.
957
00:39:50,586 --> 00:39:53,379
-Wow.
-And so, we could set it up
at the base of the mesa
958
00:39:53,482 --> 00:39:56,344
and drill horizontally
into the mesa,
959
00:39:56,448 --> 00:39:59,482
and we can steer it around.
960
00:39:59,586 --> 00:40:01,241
And so, it would allow us
to explore and see
961
00:40:01,344 --> 00:40:03,724
if we might be able to
punch into one of these voids.
962
00:40:03,827 --> 00:40:07,689
That is a perfect match
for our problem set, Thomas.
963
00:40:07,793 --> 00:40:11,000
I'm very curious to find out
what may be hidden
964
00:40:11,103 --> 00:40:13,275
in that chamber
or at least in that area.
965
00:40:13,379 --> 00:40:16,689
You have my approval to proceed,
but proceed with care.
966
00:40:16,793 --> 00:40:19,724
I want to minimize
the amount of disruption
967
00:40:19,827 --> 00:40:21,793
over in that area,
and I want to make sure
968
00:40:21,896 --> 00:40:24,379
that safety is paramount.
969
00:40:24,482 --> 00:40:27,344
-You got it, Brandon.
-BRYANT: Let's go.
970
00:40:27,448 --> 00:40:30,379
TARVIS:
You can't really
take this ranch
971
00:40:30,482 --> 00:40:32,827
as a serious
scientific investigation
972
00:40:32,931 --> 00:40:35,517
if you don't take in mind
973
00:40:35,620 --> 00:40:37,655
all of the lore and mythology
that comes with it.
974
00:40:37,758 --> 00:40:40,517
We've heard so many stories
975
00:40:40,620 --> 00:40:42,517
about what's
underneath this mesa.
976
00:40:42,620 --> 00:40:45,793
We've heard myths of caves
that have portals in them,
977
00:40:45,896 --> 00:40:47,724
even a military base.
978
00:40:47,827 --> 00:40:50,034
Any information we could get
that tells us
979
00:40:50,137 --> 00:40:54,103
there's some type of void
or even a structure,
980
00:40:54,206 --> 00:40:56,482
that would be
amazing information.
981
00:40:56,586 --> 00:40:58,517
BRANDON:
I believe as we move forward,
982
00:40:58,620 --> 00:41:02,827
the mesa holds secrets
that have yet to be revealed.
983
00:41:02,931 --> 00:41:05,931
We have to always be aware
984
00:41:06,034 --> 00:41:08,724
that anytime we begin digging
or disturbing the earth,
985
00:41:08,827 --> 00:41:12,241
we stand to experience harm
986
00:41:12,344 --> 00:41:14,655
and there's a risk involved.
987
00:41:14,758 --> 00:41:19,241
However, I can tell you
we are onto something.
988
00:41:19,344 --> 00:41:21,517
This is the time
to put our foot on the gas
989
00:41:21,620 --> 00:41:23,793
and to charge forward,
990
00:41:23,896 --> 00:41:26,586
so we can hopefully
catch a glimpse
991
00:41:26,689 --> 00:41:29,620
of what is really at work
at Skinwalker Ranch.
992
00:41:34,448 --> 00:41:38,241
THOMAS:
We're hoping that we can go
drill through the mesa
993
00:41:38,344 --> 00:41:39,827
and see if we hit any voids.
994
00:41:41,172 --> 00:41:43,068
BRYANT:
That looks like
a big chunk of something.
995
00:41:43,172 --> 00:41:46,241
What is that?
It definitely looks metallic.
996
00:41:46,344 --> 00:41:48,620
BRYANT:
Let's run a snake camera
down in the mesa.
997
00:41:48,724 --> 00:41:50,034
There it is.
998
00:41:50,137 --> 00:41:51,068
What is that?
999
00:41:51,172 --> 00:41:53,413
This thing is broadcasting.
1000
00:41:53,517 --> 00:41:55,655
This thing shouldn't be
broadcasting anything.
1001
00:41:55,758 --> 00:41:58,413
-Hey. Are you okay?
-No.
1002
00:41:58,517 --> 00:41:59,413
BRYANT:
Tom just blacked out.
78197
Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.