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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,655 --> 00:00:06,793 We would like to look through the anomaly 2 00:00:06,896 --> 00:00:07,793 at an astronomical object 3 00:00:07,896 --> 00:00:08,965 over the triangle 4 00:00:09,068 --> 00:00:11,482 and see if they seem obscured. 5 00:00:11,586 --> 00:00:13,793 The object I just slewed to a little while ago 6 00:00:13,896 --> 00:00:16,137 is now no longer in the database. 7 00:00:16,241 --> 00:00:19,344 Erik, the cattle have scattered through the entire field. 8 00:00:19,448 --> 00:00:21,793 -Something's definitely scared them. -[cattle lowing] 9 00:00:21,896 --> 00:00:23,310 What the hell is that in the sky? 10 00:00:23,413 --> 00:00:25,000 CHUCK: That thing is big and spherical. 11 00:00:25,103 --> 00:00:27,448 Yes, it is. It's got a black dot in the center of it. 12 00:00:27,551 --> 00:00:29,758 There's something that I'd like to get your eyes on. 13 00:00:29,862 --> 00:00:31,344 -There. There. -Oh, what was that? 14 00:00:31,448 --> 00:00:33,275 That's the brightest thing in the sky! 15 00:00:35,241 --> 00:00:38,965 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 16 00:00:39,068 --> 00:00:41,620 It is considered the epicenter 17 00:00:41,724 --> 00:00:46,310 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 18 00:00:46,413 --> 00:00:48,586 animal mutilations, 19 00:00:48,689 --> 00:00:51,103 bizarre UFO sightings 20 00:00:51,206 --> 00:00:56,310 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 21 00:00:56,413 --> 00:00:58,827 For 20 years, the federal government 22 00:00:58,931 --> 00:01:02,206 tried to find answers and failed. 23 00:01:02,310 --> 00:01:06,379 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 24 00:01:06,482 --> 00:01:10,206 researchers and experts has taken over. 25 00:01:10,310 --> 00:01:14,068 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 26 00:01:16,655 --> 00:01:19,931 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 27 00:01:32,827 --> 00:01:36,620 So, Kaleb just came in after being out on patrol 28 00:01:36,724 --> 00:01:38,896 and mentioned that it looks like 29 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,344 we have a downed cow out here in the field, so, 30 00:01:41,448 --> 00:01:44,034 Kaleb, Thomas, myself-- 31 00:01:44,137 --> 00:01:47,310 we're gonna go check it out. 32 00:01:47,413 --> 00:01:50,448 Oh, man, she doesn't look good, does she? 33 00:01:51,965 --> 00:01:54,793 Yeah, she's not doing well... at all. 34 00:01:59,172 --> 00:02:02,275 KALEB: Boy, her eyes don't look good, either. 35 00:02:02,379 --> 00:02:05,275 Yeah, she doesn't look very healthy at all. 36 00:02:05,379 --> 00:02:07,758 BRYANT: Hey. Oh, you're good. 37 00:02:07,862 --> 00:02:09,689 You're good. 38 00:02:11,896 --> 00:02:13,241 -Oh, come on up, girl. -[indistinct chatter] 39 00:02:13,344 --> 00:02:14,793 Get up. Come on. 40 00:02:14,896 --> 00:02:16,448 How many years did we go 41 00:02:16,551 --> 00:02:19,068 without any cattle having any issues whatsoever, 42 00:02:19,172 --> 00:02:20,931 and now we're drilling, 43 00:02:21,034 --> 00:02:24,275 we're doing all kinds of stuff, and all of a sudden, 44 00:02:24,379 --> 00:02:28,000 two out of three years, we've got cows that are in bad shape? 45 00:02:41,310 --> 00:02:42,551 -How's it going? -Good. How are you, Donavon? 46 00:02:42,655 --> 00:02:43,931 -Good. -Good to see you. 47 00:02:44,034 --> 00:02:44,793 Good to see you, too. 48 00:02:44,896 --> 00:02:46,103 Morning, Richard. 49 00:02:46,206 --> 00:02:47,931 -Hey, Tommy. -How are you? 50 00:02:48,034 --> 00:02:49,827 Good. How are you? 51 00:02:49,931 --> 00:02:51,758 Oh, doing pretty good. Good to see you out. 52 00:02:51,862 --> 00:02:53,448 Yeah, good to be out. 53 00:02:53,551 --> 00:02:55,793 So, uh, we got this cow 54 00:02:55,896 --> 00:02:57,931 that's down here that we called you about. 55 00:02:58,034 --> 00:02:59,448 There's one cow now 56 00:02:59,551 --> 00:03:00,827 that's starting to separate herself 57 00:03:00,931 --> 00:03:03,000 from the group, and 58 00:03:03,103 --> 00:03:04,965 appears to be struggling. 59 00:03:05,068 --> 00:03:07,000 My first thought is to always notify the rancher. 60 00:03:07,103 --> 00:03:09,000 These animals don't belong to us. 61 00:03:09,103 --> 00:03:11,517 512 acres is a lot of ground to maintain, 62 00:03:11,620 --> 00:03:14,689 and we bring the cows on to help keep the grass down. 63 00:03:14,793 --> 00:03:16,413 You know, I don't... I don't know what the deal is with her, 64 00:03:16,517 --> 00:03:18,172 or what her problem is, but hopefully, 65 00:03:18,275 --> 00:03:20,551 you can look at her and figure out what's going on. 66 00:03:20,655 --> 00:03:22,620 -Well, let's go see what she's doing. -Okay. 67 00:03:24,758 --> 00:03:26,551 TRAVIS: It's not that mysterious 68 00:03:26,655 --> 00:03:28,517 for a cow to get sick on a ranch, 69 00:03:28,620 --> 00:03:31,965 but there were several odd coincidences about this cow 70 00:03:32,068 --> 00:03:33,965 that Thomas, Dragon and Kaleb found acting bizarre 71 00:03:34,068 --> 00:03:36,172 out in the south field. 72 00:03:36,275 --> 00:03:38,827 One-- this happened only a couple nights 73 00:03:38,931 --> 00:03:40,965 after our telescope and rocket experiment 74 00:03:41,068 --> 00:03:43,517 where two different UAPs appeared in the sky. 75 00:03:43,620 --> 00:03:46,275 I am getting something on the 1.6. 76 00:03:46,379 --> 00:03:49,000 TRAVIS: Two-- those UAPs appeared 77 00:03:49,103 --> 00:03:51,310 just after Erik detected another dangerous 78 00:03:51,413 --> 00:03:54,275 RF radiation reading of 1.6 gigahertz, 79 00:03:54,379 --> 00:03:56,482 and the cows got all spooked and started running around. 80 00:03:56,586 --> 00:03:58,000 [cattle lowing] 81 00:03:58,103 --> 00:04:00,103 Erik, the cows have pushed in on us. 82 00:04:00,206 --> 00:04:04,068 TRAVIS: And three-- this cow is acting strange 83 00:04:04,172 --> 00:04:06,241 in the exact same location 84 00:04:06,344 --> 00:04:08,275 where a cow actually died two years ago 85 00:04:08,379 --> 00:04:11,413 just as a UAP appeared in the sky above it. 86 00:04:11,517 --> 00:04:14,482 This herd seems pretty docile. 87 00:04:14,586 --> 00:04:16,068 Do you ever see 88 00:04:16,172 --> 00:04:18,586 aggression out of cows anywhere other than here? 89 00:04:18,689 --> 00:04:22,034 Well, what seems weird to me 90 00:04:22,137 --> 00:04:24,517 is when you have one cow out of the whole herd 91 00:04:24,620 --> 00:04:26,517 that starts going mental. 92 00:04:26,620 --> 00:04:28,724 And I've never had that 93 00:04:28,827 --> 00:04:29,896 -on our ranch. -Hmm. 94 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,896 -Only here? -Only here. 95 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,241 -Wow. -THOMAS: Interesting. 96 00:04:33,344 --> 00:04:34,931 That's very interesting. 97 00:04:35,034 --> 00:04:36,965 Just as we have many scientific instruments, 98 00:04:37,068 --> 00:04:39,413 sensors and cameras deployed across the ranch, 99 00:04:39,517 --> 00:04:41,827 we also speak of the animals here 100 00:04:41,931 --> 00:04:43,793 as bio sensors. 101 00:04:43,896 --> 00:04:45,241 And it's natural for us to wonder 102 00:04:45,344 --> 00:04:46,896 whether there might be something 103 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,586 connected to our recent experiment. 104 00:04:49,689 --> 00:04:51,758 -[cow lowing] -Well, see, there's, uh... 105 00:04:51,862 --> 00:04:53,206 BRYANT: Yeah, she's starting to move. 106 00:04:53,310 --> 00:04:55,413 RICHARD: Get up, get up. There. Good deal. 107 00:04:55,517 --> 00:04:58,137 It's weird. It looks like she's trying to move all... 108 00:04:58,241 --> 00:04:59,586 RICHARD: She's gonna go down, Donavon. 109 00:04:59,689 --> 00:05:01,758 You got to get in front of her. 110 00:05:01,862 --> 00:05:03,482 Wow. 111 00:05:03,586 --> 00:05:05,586 -She's down, she's down. -Yeah. -She might be... 112 00:05:05,689 --> 00:05:07,586 -Yup. See, now she starts... -Yes. 113 00:05:07,689 --> 00:05:08,793 -getting aggressive right there. Shh. Shh. -Yeah. 114 00:05:08,896 --> 00:05:10,689 -Shh. -She's got a gaze on us. 115 00:05:10,793 --> 00:05:12,241 Dad, I got her, I got her. Get back! 116 00:05:12,344 --> 00:05:15,275 -He's on her. -Get back! Get back! 117 00:05:15,379 --> 00:05:16,793 [dog barking] 118 00:05:16,896 --> 00:05:17,965 Luca, back. 119 00:05:18,068 --> 00:05:20,275 -Come on. -[barking] 120 00:05:20,379 --> 00:05:21,793 [panting] Ah. 121 00:05:21,896 --> 00:05:23,827 RICHARD: Let her... let her lay down. 122 00:05:23,931 --> 00:05:26,448 -ERIK: She's really in distress. -DONAVON: Yeah. 123 00:05:26,551 --> 00:05:29,793 RICHARD: What I think we'll do, Tommy, is take her home, 124 00:05:29,896 --> 00:05:31,586 and see if she acts any different at home. 125 00:05:31,689 --> 00:05:34,310 She's totally agitated. 126 00:05:34,413 --> 00:05:37,000 I think there's something going on. I don't know what it is. 127 00:05:37,103 --> 00:05:40,103 I don't like thinking about it, I don't want to be around it. 128 00:05:40,206 --> 00:05:41,344 It's a mystery. 129 00:05:41,448 --> 00:05:43,310 BRYANT: Sorry this happened. 130 00:05:43,413 --> 00:05:46,103 We appreciate you coming and bringing your animals out here. 131 00:05:46,206 --> 00:05:49,000 Hopefully, this doesn't sour you on the place too much. 132 00:05:50,172 --> 00:05:51,724 Well, we'll see. 133 00:05:53,724 --> 00:05:56,206 [cow lowing] 134 00:06:03,827 --> 00:06:07,137 TRAVIS: After Erik and I heard about the cow, 135 00:06:07,241 --> 00:06:08,724 we decided it was time to reach back out 136 00:06:08,827 --> 00:06:10,965 to someone who we know was not only 137 00:06:11,068 --> 00:06:13,068 a former investigator on the ranch, 138 00:06:13,172 --> 00:06:16,620 but also had his own experiences with bizarre cattle incidents-- 139 00:06:16,724 --> 00:06:19,344 Retired Army Colonel John Alexander. 140 00:06:19,448 --> 00:06:22,000 -Thanks for coming out. We appreciate it. -Okay. 141 00:06:22,103 --> 00:06:24,827 TRAVIS: Colonel Alexander was a key member 142 00:06:24,931 --> 00:06:26,758 of billionaire Robert Bigelow's team, 143 00:06:26,862 --> 00:06:29,137 who studied phenomena on the ranch for two decades, 144 00:06:29,241 --> 00:06:31,379 starting back in 1996. 145 00:06:31,482 --> 00:06:35,000 Hey, guys. You remember Colonel Alexander? 146 00:06:35,103 --> 00:06:36,551 TRAVIS: So, given everything we've been experiencing 147 00:06:36,655 --> 00:06:38,310 recently at the triangle, 148 00:06:38,413 --> 00:06:40,896 which now seems to be affecting the cattle, as well, 149 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,827 we were grateful that he agreed to come back 150 00:06:42,931 --> 00:06:46,551 and share information that could help our investigation. 151 00:06:46,655 --> 00:06:48,689 So, is this the first time you've been back to the ranch 152 00:06:48,793 --> 00:06:49,689 since the Bigelow era? 153 00:06:49,793 --> 00:06:51,379 Been a couple decades. 154 00:06:51,482 --> 00:06:53,379 -TRAVIS: Wow. -Looks a little different. 155 00:06:53,482 --> 00:06:55,206 The topography looks the same. The rest of it 156 00:06:55,310 --> 00:06:58,000 has kind of, uh... has been updated quite a bit. 157 00:06:59,310 --> 00:07:02,103 I was a colonel in the Army, 158 00:07:02,206 --> 00:07:04,034 I was in special operations, 159 00:07:04,137 --> 00:07:07,448 and finally, as director of advanced system concepts. 160 00:07:07,551 --> 00:07:11,448 The second career was Los Alamos National Laboratory, 161 00:07:11,551 --> 00:07:14,793 where we did all the non-lethal weapons concepts. 162 00:07:14,896 --> 00:07:19,241 I had just left Los Alamos, and in mid '95, 163 00:07:19,344 --> 00:07:22,103 Bob Bigelow decided to create NIDS-- 164 00:07:22,206 --> 00:07:24,000 National Institute for Discovery Science-- 165 00:07:24,103 --> 00:07:26,724 and I was the first NIDS employee. 166 00:07:26,827 --> 00:07:31,068 NIDS was formed for the purpose of looking at UFOs. 167 00:07:31,172 --> 00:07:34,448 Skinwalker presented that and so much more. 168 00:07:34,551 --> 00:07:37,241 TRAVIS: We would like to see 169 00:07:37,344 --> 00:07:40,000 if you have some insight from your past here 170 00:07:40,103 --> 00:07:43,034 that might spur us into some other experiments 171 00:07:43,137 --> 00:07:44,689 that we might like to do. 172 00:07:44,793 --> 00:07:48,551 So, during the time that you guys were here, 173 00:07:48,655 --> 00:07:51,620 can you, uh, think of a specific 174 00:07:51,724 --> 00:07:56,068 event that was the most disturbing or impactful? 175 00:07:56,172 --> 00:07:58,448 -Especially something, like, with a cow? -[laughs] 176 00:07:58,551 --> 00:08:01,344 I wouldn't know where to begin with that one. 177 00:08:01,448 --> 00:08:05,793 Um, when NIDS was created in mid '95, 178 00:08:05,896 --> 00:08:09,827 Terry Sherman was prepared to sell the ranch, 179 00:08:09,931 --> 00:08:12,344 and so, Bob Bigelow made him an offer. 180 00:08:12,448 --> 00:08:14,206 -After he s... bought the ranch... -So he stayed on 181 00:08:14,310 --> 00:08:15,655 -as the ranch manager? -He-he stayed on 182 00:08:15,758 --> 00:08:17,517 as the ranch manager. 183 00:08:17,620 --> 00:08:19,689 So it was calving season. Terry went out, 184 00:08:19,793 --> 00:08:23,344 found a newborn, tag it and weighed it. 185 00:08:23,448 --> 00:08:26,551 Drives across, as you know, perfectly open field, 186 00:08:26,655 --> 00:08:31,482 finds another newborn, tags it and weighs it, comes back. 187 00:08:31,586 --> 00:08:35,724 And the mother's going berserk, and calf one is dead. 188 00:08:36,965 --> 00:08:39,827 Not only is it dead, but there's about 40 pounds 189 00:08:39,931 --> 00:08:41,655 of stuff is missing. 190 00:08:41,758 --> 00:08:45,000 It's eviscerated, exsanguinated, 191 00:08:45,103 --> 00:08:47,344 ear had been sliced off. 192 00:08:47,448 --> 00:08:49,862 TRAVIS: Hearing the strange details of this calf 193 00:08:49,965 --> 00:08:53,344 being mutilated in broad daylight reminds me again 194 00:08:53,448 --> 00:08:55,965 of the cow that died after we first stimulated UAPs 195 00:08:56,068 --> 00:08:58,517 to appear above the triangle two years ago. 196 00:09:00,275 --> 00:09:02,206 What in the world? 197 00:09:02,310 --> 00:09:04,517 Tom Winterton found the cow right after it died, 198 00:09:04,620 --> 00:09:06,724 and alerted us to go investigate it. 199 00:09:06,827 --> 00:09:08,517 The meter's just going crazy. 200 00:09:08,620 --> 00:09:11,689 Almost immediately, we began detecting high readings 201 00:09:11,793 --> 00:09:13,379 of RF radiation with our TriField meters, 202 00:09:13,482 --> 00:09:15,896 so we got out of there. 203 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,275 What we'll do is go forward very slowly. 204 00:09:19,379 --> 00:09:21,896 TRAVIS: But then, we reviewed the surveillance footage 205 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,172 that captured the moment of the cow's death 206 00:09:24,275 --> 00:09:26,275 and saw a UAP in the sky right above it. 207 00:09:26,379 --> 00:09:29,241 Since that day, we've wondered if we might have stopped 208 00:09:29,344 --> 00:09:31,413 a mutilation from happening. 209 00:09:31,517 --> 00:09:33,379 But it's also very curious 210 00:09:33,482 --> 00:09:35,344 that both the Bigelow team and our team 211 00:09:35,448 --> 00:09:38,724 had cows die under very inexplicable circumstances 212 00:09:38,827 --> 00:09:41,241 right after we first began investigating phenomena 213 00:09:41,344 --> 00:09:43,137 on Skinwalker Ranch. 214 00:09:43,241 --> 00:09:44,517 It made me wonder what other similarities 215 00:09:44,620 --> 00:09:46,586 we've both experienced. 216 00:09:46,689 --> 00:09:50,586 What's really interesting is, a lot of times when we do have 217 00:09:50,689 --> 00:09:53,413 these anomalies, we are detecting a strange signal 218 00:09:53,517 --> 00:09:57,379 that we can't identify at 1.6 something gigahertz. 219 00:09:57,482 --> 00:09:59,413 -Okay. -And, so, 220 00:09:59,517 --> 00:10:02,068 I guess the question we would have is, 221 00:10:02,172 --> 00:10:05,586 during the time that you guys were here, 222 00:10:05,689 --> 00:10:10,206 did you record or see things that looked like this signal 223 00:10:10,310 --> 00:10:11,896 at 1.6 gigahertz? 224 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,827 Well, as you know, I've dealt 225 00:10:13,931 --> 00:10:16,241 with the UFO phenomena quite a bit, 226 00:10:16,344 --> 00:10:20,586 and-and that is one of the perplexing aspects, 227 00:10:20,689 --> 00:10:22,620 is things like these sort of signals. 228 00:10:22,724 --> 00:10:26,862 And these things occur in many, many areas, 229 00:10:26,965 --> 00:10:30,413 and why is it that we see things that shouldn't be there, 230 00:10:30,517 --> 00:10:32,827 and don't see things that we should see? 231 00:10:32,931 --> 00:10:36,068 -Yup. -For instance, we would set up cameras, and say, 232 00:10:36,172 --> 00:10:38,758 "Okay, we're gonna... If it's happening here, 233 00:10:38,862 --> 00:10:40,551 we're gonna watch in that location," 234 00:10:40,655 --> 00:10:42,689 but you get nothing, 235 00:10:42,793 --> 00:10:44,517 and things would happen off camera. 236 00:10:44,620 --> 00:10:46,413 Sometimes the most important data 237 00:10:46,517 --> 00:10:47,931 are the ones we can't collect. 238 00:10:48,034 --> 00:10:50,413 The fact that something is interfering, which is 239 00:10:50,517 --> 00:10:52,931 -very often the case here. -JOHN: Right. 240 00:10:53,034 --> 00:10:55,068 ERIK: So, the other thing I wanted to ask you is, 241 00:10:55,172 --> 00:10:56,517 we've heard about opening portals. 242 00:10:56,620 --> 00:10:59,241 Uh, what can you tell us about those? 243 00:10:59,344 --> 00:11:02,448 The closest to what you're asking 244 00:11:02,551 --> 00:11:05,275 is the incident out at... near the second homestead. 245 00:11:05,379 --> 00:11:07,965 You know, something moving through 246 00:11:08,068 --> 00:11:10,310 the Russian olives out there, 247 00:11:10,413 --> 00:11:11,793 through the trees. 248 00:11:11,896 --> 00:11:15,310 We were aware of kind of a slight distortion. 249 00:11:15,413 --> 00:11:18,413 You didn't see a thing; it was more of distortions moving. 250 00:11:19,517 --> 00:11:20,965 TRAVIS: After their investigation ended, 251 00:11:21,068 --> 00:11:23,068 the NIDS team put forth the idea 252 00:11:23,172 --> 00:11:25,689 that a portal connected to another dimension 253 00:11:25,793 --> 00:11:28,482 causes the phenomena that happened on the ranch. 254 00:11:28,586 --> 00:11:29,965 I don't know if that could really explain 255 00:11:30,068 --> 00:11:32,000 what's happened during our experiments, 256 00:11:32,103 --> 00:11:35,000 but we've seen some crazy stuff at Homestead Two as well. 257 00:11:35,103 --> 00:11:38,655 Last year, we used thermal imaging 258 00:11:38,758 --> 00:11:41,413 at night to capture a circular temperature vortex 259 00:11:41,517 --> 00:11:43,965 that was at least 20 degrees colder 260 00:11:44,068 --> 00:11:45,448 than any of its surroundings. 261 00:11:45,551 --> 00:11:47,482 Oh, whoa. 262 00:11:47,586 --> 00:11:50,000 And when we reviewed our footage, we saw something 263 00:11:50,103 --> 00:11:52,827 moving erratically in front of the homestead. 264 00:11:52,931 --> 00:11:55,655 Now, I'm still not ready to say a portal or a wormhole exists 265 00:11:55,758 --> 00:11:58,310 on Skinwalker Ranch, but it is amazing 266 00:11:58,413 --> 00:12:00,137 that other researchers 267 00:12:00,241 --> 00:12:02,206 and scientists believe that it could. 268 00:12:02,310 --> 00:12:05,206 So what I'm taking from this is that there is a long history 269 00:12:05,310 --> 00:12:07,827 of unusual phenomena without an identifiable source 270 00:12:07,931 --> 00:12:10,137 in this basin. 271 00:12:10,241 --> 00:12:14,724 And I'm learning that there were no answers produced 272 00:12:14,827 --> 00:12:17,862 as a result of the previous research here. 273 00:12:17,965 --> 00:12:21,206 -That's kind of surprising. -Right. 274 00:12:21,310 --> 00:12:22,862 Because that burden that we're bearing today is 275 00:12:22,965 --> 00:12:25,896 that our own conclusions don't make sense to us yet. 276 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,034 It's been a frustration, almost become a joke. 277 00:12:29,137 --> 00:12:31,034 Yes, but I think you're operating under the illusion 278 00:12:31,137 --> 00:12:32,517 that you're in control. 279 00:12:32,620 --> 00:12:35,206 You're not in control. 280 00:12:35,310 --> 00:12:37,000 There's an "it" that's in control. 281 00:12:44,448 --> 00:12:47,862 Whatever "it" was seemed to know how we would respond 282 00:12:47,965 --> 00:12:50,689 before the event even occurred. 283 00:12:51,758 --> 00:12:53,620 It was not responding 284 00:12:53,724 --> 00:12:56,655 in a way that we would anticipate. 285 00:12:56,758 --> 00:12:59,000 And every time you tried to anticipate, 286 00:12:59,103 --> 00:13:02,724 it would just morph to something a little bit different. 287 00:13:02,827 --> 00:13:05,379 Like I say, you like that? Try this. 288 00:13:05,482 --> 00:13:08,965 I'm really interested in how you arrived at that impression, 289 00:13:09,068 --> 00:13:10,724 that overall assessment of what was going on here, 290 00:13:10,827 --> 00:13:14,172 from having experiments not go as you planned 291 00:13:14,275 --> 00:13:16,379 to there being an "it." 292 00:13:16,482 --> 00:13:19,344 When a physical event had occurred, 293 00:13:19,448 --> 00:13:21,551 something would happen. 294 00:13:21,655 --> 00:13:23,862 Theoretically, can some of these happen, yes, 295 00:13:23,965 --> 00:13:25,379 but when you look at it practically, 296 00:13:25,482 --> 00:13:27,206 it just makes no sense at all. 297 00:13:27,310 --> 00:13:30,551 It was when "it" decided 298 00:13:30,655 --> 00:13:34,413 to present us with something that the events occurred. 299 00:13:36,482 --> 00:13:38,000 We inherited this narrative 300 00:13:38,103 --> 00:13:40,517 that it's dangerous to dig on the ranch. 301 00:13:40,620 --> 00:13:43,000 My question to you is, 302 00:13:43,103 --> 00:13:46,551 are you aware of any exercises during the Bigelow era 303 00:13:46,655 --> 00:13:48,551 where they may have done experiments 304 00:13:48,655 --> 00:13:50,655 that included digging and watching? 305 00:13:50,758 --> 00:13:52,793 I'm familiar with that. 306 00:13:55,379 --> 00:13:56,344 The digging 307 00:13:56,448 --> 00:13:58,137 was to see if some sort 308 00:13:58,241 --> 00:14:01,793 of phenomena would manifest itself. 309 00:14:01,896 --> 00:14:05,448 If we can do something that will cause a response. 310 00:14:05,551 --> 00:14:08,482 And sometimes incidents happen. 311 00:14:08,586 --> 00:14:11,103 While we've got you here, 312 00:14:11,206 --> 00:14:12,620 we could take you around 313 00:14:12,724 --> 00:14:14,793 and show you some places on the ranch. 314 00:14:14,896 --> 00:14:16,620 -You show us where you think things happened. -JOHN: Well, yeah, 315 00:14:16,724 --> 00:14:19,620 well, one of my areas of interest is revisiting 316 00:14:19,724 --> 00:14:21,620 -where some of these events took place at. -That would be great 317 00:14:21,724 --> 00:14:23,137 -for you to tell us that. -BRYANT: That'd be helpful to us. 318 00:14:23,241 --> 00:14:24,413 -Yeah, that'd be very helpful. -So, uh, 319 00:14:24,517 --> 00:14:26,689 with that in mind, I think we should load up 320 00:14:26,793 --> 00:14:27,827 and head out. 321 00:14:30,793 --> 00:14:33,034 -This particular area is... -This is the triangle? 322 00:14:33,137 --> 00:14:34,965 -Yeah, it's been... -The infamous triangle. 323 00:14:37,103 --> 00:14:38,965 TRAVIS: I'll tell you, it's really more 324 00:14:39,068 --> 00:14:42,724 about phenomena in the sky above the triangle than actually 325 00:14:42,827 --> 00:14:45,379 -on the triangle. -JOHN: Oh, yeah. 326 00:14:45,482 --> 00:14:47,620 TRAVIS: Colonel Alexander told us a lot of different stories 327 00:14:47,724 --> 00:14:50,448 about phenomena they had seen back in the Bigelow era. 328 00:14:50,551 --> 00:14:53,103 So, what we thought was, him showing us 329 00:14:53,206 --> 00:14:56,034 where these things happened might give us some insight 330 00:14:56,137 --> 00:14:57,793 of where we might want to do some experiments 331 00:14:57,896 --> 00:15:00,965 to reproduce it and maybe capture some data. 332 00:15:01,068 --> 00:15:04,827 -BRYANT: This place look familiar to you, John? -Oh, yes. 333 00:15:04,931 --> 00:15:07,517 BRYANT: The story that sticks with me is 334 00:15:07,620 --> 00:15:11,413 your account of the portal opening up. 335 00:15:11,517 --> 00:15:14,344 Oh, yes. Well, it was a little bit farther up. 336 00:15:17,862 --> 00:15:20,172 TRAVIS: Back in the NIDS days, multiple eyewitnesses 337 00:15:20,275 --> 00:15:22,000 have written about these phenomena. 338 00:15:22,103 --> 00:15:24,172 Maybe there is some connection 339 00:15:24,275 --> 00:15:26,551 with whatever these phenomena are, 340 00:15:26,655 --> 00:15:29,379 what they've seen in the past, and what we're seeing today. 341 00:15:32,275 --> 00:15:34,275 It was around this corner right here 342 00:15:34,379 --> 00:15:37,000 where we had the radiation spikes. 343 00:15:37,103 --> 00:15:38,689 Uh, near this cistern. 344 00:15:38,793 --> 00:15:41,517 Well, that's interesting because this is one of the few areas 345 00:15:41,620 --> 00:15:44,206 I have some old pictures from. 346 00:15:44,310 --> 00:15:46,620 Y'all measured for gamma rays and stuff like that? 347 00:15:46,724 --> 00:15:48,965 Yeah, what... They used the TriField meters 348 00:15:49,068 --> 00:15:52,517 -and whatnot, but, uh... -You know why this is open? 349 00:15:52,620 --> 00:15:53,827 THOMAS: Do you know why that's open? 350 00:15:53,931 --> 00:15:56,034 I don't know why that's open, either. 351 00:15:58,103 --> 00:16:01,413 -BRYANT: I wonder who opened it up. -Uh... 352 00:16:01,517 --> 00:16:03,551 'Cause I don't... Someone's been here and opened this up. 353 00:16:03,655 --> 00:16:06,413 It's always closed. 354 00:16:06,517 --> 00:16:09,413 It usually is closed because we don't want anyone 355 00:16:09,517 --> 00:16:10,896 or anything falling in there. 356 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,965 Yeah, somebody's opened this up. 357 00:16:16,862 --> 00:16:19,931 TRAVIS: Two years ago, I was exposed to dangerous levels 358 00:16:20,034 --> 00:16:22,896 of ionizing radiation coming directly from this cistern 359 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,413 that left burns on my hand and face. 360 00:16:26,517 --> 00:16:29,758 Ever since then, we've had radiation sensors placed 361 00:16:29,862 --> 00:16:32,413 all around the ranch just to be safe. 362 00:16:32,517 --> 00:16:35,344 And seeing the lid off this cistern is not just curious. 363 00:16:35,448 --> 00:16:37,241 It's concerning. 364 00:16:37,344 --> 00:16:39,068 -I don't know why... -That... 365 00:16:39,172 --> 00:16:40,551 It's heavy, too. It ain't just... 366 00:16:40,655 --> 00:16:41,689 -THOMAS: It is. -TRAVIS: Yeah. 367 00:16:41,793 --> 00:16:43,689 You got it, Tom? 368 00:16:43,793 --> 00:16:45,482 Why is that open? 369 00:16:45,586 --> 00:16:47,344 BRYANT: Somebody opened it. 370 00:16:47,448 --> 00:16:50,586 I'm just trying to figure out who. 371 00:16:50,689 --> 00:16:52,689 We need to get to the bottom of that. 372 00:16:52,793 --> 00:16:54,620 Did y'all have weird stuff like that happen? 373 00:16:54,724 --> 00:16:57,413 You know, things being one orientation, 374 00:16:57,517 --> 00:16:59,068 and you come back, and it's moved? 375 00:16:59,172 --> 00:17:02,793 Yeah, but it's... The problem was like this-- 376 00:17:02,896 --> 00:17:04,724 you notice it after the fact. 377 00:17:07,172 --> 00:17:09,344 So, where do you think the, uh, portal was? 378 00:17:09,448 --> 00:17:11,310 -From... out in the field. Yeah. -Oh, from out there? 379 00:17:11,413 --> 00:17:12,827 Oh, show us... show us where that is. 380 00:17:14,758 --> 00:17:19,034 Yeah, out in this general area. 381 00:17:19,137 --> 00:17:22,655 And it's sort of moving through the treetops here. 382 00:17:22,758 --> 00:17:25,034 Again, it was more of a distortion. 383 00:17:26,241 --> 00:17:29,862 This was early evening. Our guys were down there, 384 00:17:29,965 --> 00:17:31,689 and it was kind of a disturbance. 385 00:17:31,793 --> 00:17:33,482 You didn't actually see a thing. 386 00:17:33,586 --> 00:17:35,310 It was more of distortions moving. 387 00:17:35,413 --> 00:17:37,896 BRYANT: Just so I'm clear, it was almost like 388 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,379 -the cloaked movement... -Yeah, like something moving 389 00:17:40,482 --> 00:17:41,620 -through the treetops. -BRYANT: Okay. 390 00:17:41,724 --> 00:17:43,068 -A disturbance... -BRYANT: Mm-hmm. 391 00:17:43,172 --> 00:17:46,000 ...in the visual spectrum as it goes across. 392 00:17:48,206 --> 00:17:49,758 They only were able to see it through the night vision 393 00:17:49,862 --> 00:17:51,103 cameras? Is that correct? 394 00:17:51,206 --> 00:17:53,931 -Yeah. -Okay. 395 00:17:54,034 --> 00:17:55,482 -Okay. -Well. 396 00:17:55,586 --> 00:17:57,896 So, why don't we head that way? 397 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,655 Let's go up through here so we can avoid the water. 398 00:18:00,758 --> 00:18:03,068 Okay, you lead the way, Thomas. 399 00:18:03,172 --> 00:18:06,379 It's a good thing to reach out to people that have been here 400 00:18:06,482 --> 00:18:08,137 and other research efforts to understand this place. 401 00:18:08,241 --> 00:18:11,206 This is a strange place. Weird things happen. 402 00:18:11,310 --> 00:18:15,000 Anybody that has any insight-- that's gonna be useful data. 403 00:18:16,137 --> 00:18:18,413 The caretakers that were here after, 404 00:18:18,517 --> 00:18:21,551 uh, the Shermans left, had indicated that 405 00:18:21,655 --> 00:18:24,758 Bigelow's team-- they actually used a bulldozer, 406 00:18:24,862 --> 00:18:27,275 and done some trenches here in this field. 407 00:18:27,379 --> 00:18:29,379 It was more a disturbance. 408 00:18:29,482 --> 00:18:33,413 The intent was not to dig, per se. It was just, 409 00:18:33,517 --> 00:18:36,034 we'll screw with things and see if... 410 00:18:36,137 --> 00:18:38,689 -See if you could stimulate it? -Oh, yeah. 411 00:18:38,793 --> 00:18:40,068 To quote Travis, they were trying 412 00:18:40,172 --> 00:18:41,620 to poke the hornet's nest? 413 00:18:41,724 --> 00:18:43,034 -Yeah. -I see. 414 00:18:43,137 --> 00:18:44,862 THOMAS: Do you know, did they ever feel 415 00:18:44,965 --> 00:18:48,137 like they got a response from any of that? 416 00:18:48,241 --> 00:18:51,862 Yeah. Well, we just discussed the one with the portal. 417 00:18:51,965 --> 00:18:55,379 -Yeah. -You get something like that... 418 00:18:55,482 --> 00:18:57,068 -Sure. -It wasn't like we tried 419 00:18:57,172 --> 00:18:59,724 to orchestrate theresponse. 420 00:18:59,827 --> 00:19:01,724 It was, do we get aresponse? 421 00:19:01,827 --> 00:19:03,793 -What does that look like? -Okay. 422 00:19:03,896 --> 00:19:06,275 -Yeah. -Listening to you talk about it, you know, I... 423 00:19:06,379 --> 00:19:08,275 in the back of my mind I say, 424 00:19:08,379 --> 00:19:10,827 "Well, if Bigelow's team dug there once, 425 00:19:10,931 --> 00:19:13,275 "I want to go dig there again and see 426 00:19:13,379 --> 00:19:15,689 -if strange things happen." -TRAVIS: Right. 427 00:19:15,793 --> 00:19:17,793 We dig again to see if it's repeatable. 428 00:19:17,896 --> 00:19:19,448 -Yup. -THOMAS: And so, do you reckon 429 00:19:19,551 --> 00:19:21,758 that if we were to come in and dig again, 430 00:19:21,862 --> 00:19:23,551 we would get a response? 431 00:19:23,655 --> 00:19:27,103 Um... don't know. 432 00:19:27,206 --> 00:19:29,137 Where you dig makes a difference. 433 00:19:30,724 --> 00:19:32,965 ERIK: Well, we find support for the idea that when 434 00:19:33,068 --> 00:19:37,275 we do things, we do see what we interpret as a response. 435 00:19:37,379 --> 00:19:39,586 -Right. -And so, that's what we're weighing out right now. 436 00:19:39,689 --> 00:19:41,379 How do we proceed with that? 437 00:19:41,482 --> 00:19:43,379 Well, while we've been standing here talking, 438 00:19:43,482 --> 00:19:45,620 I've been scanning over this field. 439 00:19:45,724 --> 00:19:47,551 -Mm-hmm. -You know, for it being a level 440 00:19:47,655 --> 00:19:51,413 field, I see a pretty good bulldozer-width indentation 441 00:19:51,517 --> 00:19:53,551 right here between these two trees. 442 00:19:53,655 --> 00:19:55,275 -TRAVIS: Oh, yeah. -THOMAS: I think 443 00:19:55,379 --> 00:19:58,137 that that would be a great spot to come in and dig again. 444 00:19:58,241 --> 00:20:00,103 TRAVIS: Oh, that would be a real good idea. 445 00:20:00,206 --> 00:20:02,482 -Then see what happens with the front. -Yeah. 446 00:20:02,586 --> 00:20:05,793 Well, John, thank you so much for coming out here. 447 00:20:05,896 --> 00:20:08,482 I know we're losing daylight, so we want to get you back safely, 448 00:20:08,586 --> 00:20:10,413 -so, if we pile in and head out? -Whenever you're ready, so... 449 00:20:10,517 --> 00:20:11,931 -Yeah, let's head back. -Okay, thank you. -Yeah. 450 00:20:12,034 --> 00:20:13,620 BRANDON: Colonel Alexander 451 00:20:13,724 --> 00:20:15,275 and the previous team witnessed so many 452 00:20:15,379 --> 00:20:17,275 stunning events that really 453 00:20:17,379 --> 00:20:20,275 laid the foundation for the research 454 00:20:20,379 --> 00:20:23,482 that we took forward to present day. 455 00:20:23,586 --> 00:20:26,931 The information and insight that he had shared with the team 456 00:20:27,034 --> 00:20:29,241 helped shape the nature of our investigation. 457 00:20:29,344 --> 00:20:31,862 ERIK: Well, we all got quite a bit on our plates. 458 00:20:39,275 --> 00:20:41,862 TRAVIS: After Colonel John Alexander told us 459 00:20:41,965 --> 00:20:44,586 that the NIDS team dug near Homestead Two, 460 00:20:44,689 --> 00:20:46,586 and stimulated what they believed 461 00:20:46,689 --> 00:20:48,862 to be portal activity on the ranch, 462 00:20:48,965 --> 00:20:50,827 Thomas rented an industrial-sized bulldozer 463 00:20:50,931 --> 00:20:53,000 so we could dig in that exact same area 464 00:20:53,103 --> 00:20:54,586 to see what might happen. 465 00:20:54,689 --> 00:20:57,172 Oh, here he comes. 466 00:20:58,275 --> 00:20:59,344 -what's up, Thomas? -BRYANT: How was... how was 467 00:20:59,448 --> 00:21:00,758 your sports car ride over here? 468 00:21:00,862 --> 00:21:02,241 -Rough. -BRYANT: Yeah, I'll bet. 469 00:21:02,344 --> 00:21:04,000 TRAVIS [laughing]: I'll bet it was. 470 00:21:04,103 --> 00:21:06,655 So I'm thinking we just go down, what, four or five feet? 471 00:21:06,758 --> 00:21:08,551 That makes sense. The height of the blade or something, right? 472 00:21:08,655 --> 00:21:10,448 -Or until we hit water, I guess. -Yeah, yeah. 473 00:21:10,551 --> 00:21:11,793 I don't want to bury that. 474 00:21:11,896 --> 00:21:15,000 So you maybe take about a-a foot off first, 475 00:21:15,103 --> 00:21:17,448 and we can look at it, and then, take another couple of feet. 476 00:21:17,551 --> 00:21:19,310 -Oh, yeah. -Then maybe get down to where... 477 00:21:19,413 --> 00:21:21,103 -Maybe something like that? -Yeah, that sounds good. 478 00:21:21,206 --> 00:21:23,586 Well, it goes without saying, 479 00:21:23,689 --> 00:21:25,413 we need to just keep an eye on ourselves. 480 00:21:25,517 --> 00:21:27,413 If you start feeling anything funny, 481 00:21:27,517 --> 00:21:30,000 obviously, let somebody know, because 482 00:21:30,103 --> 00:21:32,655 when you dig, bad stuff actually does happens. 483 00:21:32,758 --> 00:21:34,896 THOMAS: Yeah, so if you guys see 484 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,724 -anything start to elevate, let me know... -Yeah. 485 00:21:36,827 --> 00:21:38,068 -and I'm gonna shut her down. -I'm gonna sit here and watch. 486 00:21:38,172 --> 00:21:39,586 I'm gonna sit here and watch constantly 487 00:21:39,689 --> 00:21:41,310 while you're doing it. I'm not gonna let you 488 00:21:41,413 --> 00:21:43,103 be out here digging without this... without one us 489 00:21:43,206 --> 00:21:44,448 -being out here with a Geiger counter. -Yeah. 490 00:21:44,551 --> 00:21:45,517 -Yeah. What are you reading? -Right now, 491 00:21:45,620 --> 00:21:46,862 we're at normal background. 492 00:21:46,965 --> 00:21:49,275 -12. Yeah. -12 micro? 493 00:21:49,379 --> 00:21:51,551 TRAVIS: As a precaution for this experiment, Erik had 494 00:21:51,655 --> 00:21:53,413 the spectrum analyzer scanning the area 495 00:21:53,517 --> 00:21:56,206 for the 1.6 gigahertz RF signal, 496 00:21:56,310 --> 00:21:59,724 and we both also had Geiger counter devices 497 00:21:59,827 --> 00:22:02,448 to look out for harmful spikes in gamma radiation. 498 00:22:02,551 --> 00:22:04,379 When we dug last year in the south field 499 00:22:04,482 --> 00:22:06,379 near where the cow died, 500 00:22:06,482 --> 00:22:09,241 we detected gamma rays three times the normal level. 501 00:22:09,344 --> 00:22:12,103 All right, I think, uh... I think we got it covered. 502 00:22:12,206 --> 00:22:14,448 -Thomas, you ready to dig? -Yeah, I'm ready to dig. 503 00:22:20,241 --> 00:22:24,000 Rolling this D8 dozer across-- this is definitely 504 00:22:24,103 --> 00:22:26,586 the largest bulldozer that has ever been on Skinwalker Ranch. 505 00:22:31,137 --> 00:22:32,482 TRAVIS: Nothing unusual. 506 00:22:32,586 --> 00:22:33,793 THOMAS: After seeing 507 00:22:33,896 --> 00:22:35,034 some of the data that we've received 508 00:22:35,137 --> 00:22:36,827 after digging other holes on the ranch, 509 00:22:36,931 --> 00:22:38,310 it'll be interesting to see what happens. 510 00:22:41,482 --> 00:22:43,965 That looks like that may be a little harder to dig, don't it? 511 00:22:44,068 --> 00:22:45,310 KANDUS: It does. 512 00:22:47,034 --> 00:22:49,172 Hey, Dragon, Erik, y'all seeing anything? 513 00:22:50,793 --> 00:22:52,655 Yeah. Me, either. 514 00:22:54,137 --> 00:22:55,862 [creaking] 515 00:23:02,551 --> 00:23:05,551 BRYANT: Ugh. That's not good. 516 00:23:05,655 --> 00:23:07,379 THOMAS: We really haven't 517 00:23:07,482 --> 00:23:09,103 even gotten that deep down in the soil 518 00:23:09,206 --> 00:23:11,862 when the bulldozer just bogs down and dies. 519 00:23:11,965 --> 00:23:15,551 This big of a dozer should be able to handle this very easily. 520 00:23:15,655 --> 00:23:18,103 It's just another event in a long list of experiments 521 00:23:18,206 --> 00:23:20,241 that haven't gone the way that we planned. 522 00:23:20,344 --> 00:23:24,206 So, guys, I didn't shut it off. It bogged down, and it-it died. 523 00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:27,206 But, uh, it's telling me it's got a dead battery. 524 00:23:27,310 --> 00:23:29,379 BRYANT: Didn't they just put two new ones in it? 525 00:23:29,482 --> 00:23:30,689 -Like, an hour ago. -TRAVIS: Yeah. 526 00:23:30,793 --> 00:23:32,724 ERIK: I got to tell you, 527 00:23:32,827 --> 00:23:34,103 I wish I had a voltmeter out here. 528 00:23:34,206 --> 00:23:35,724 So why don't we run back 529 00:23:35,827 --> 00:23:37,206 -and get one just to see? -Yeah. -Yeah. 530 00:23:37,310 --> 00:23:39,034 It doesn't look like that's going anywhere. 531 00:23:39,137 --> 00:23:41,724 TRAVIS: It was like, here we go again. 532 00:23:41,827 --> 00:23:44,862 We just get started digging to stimulate a ranch response, 533 00:23:44,965 --> 00:23:48,206 and the fully-charged battery in the bulldozer dies. 534 00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:49,827 THOMAS: I'm gonna keep fidgeting around with this. 535 00:23:49,931 --> 00:23:51,172 -TRAVIS: Yeah, yeah. All right. -Maybe it'll... 536 00:23:51,275 --> 00:23:52,931 Okay. 537 00:23:54,965 --> 00:23:58,034 -Man, were you expecting that? -No. 538 00:23:58,137 --> 00:24:01,103 TRAVIS: Was that the ranch responding? I don't know. 539 00:24:01,206 --> 00:24:03,275 So while Erik and Dragon went back 540 00:24:03,379 --> 00:24:05,103 to the command center to get his voltmeter, 541 00:24:05,206 --> 00:24:06,965 and also to process the collected data 542 00:24:07,068 --> 00:24:08,862 from gamma ray detector, 543 00:24:08,965 --> 00:24:10,655 the rest of us hung back 544 00:24:10,758 --> 00:24:14,379 just in case something even more strange would happen next. 545 00:24:18,137 --> 00:24:19,551 ERIK: Hey, Bryant, 546 00:24:19,655 --> 00:24:21,517 I want you to see this. 547 00:24:21,620 --> 00:24:24,448 We've got a couple flavors of strangeness going here, Bryant. 548 00:24:24,551 --> 00:24:28,620 -Look! What the actual hell is this? -What? 549 00:24:28,724 --> 00:24:31,172 ERIK: While the guys were trying to fix the bulldozer, 550 00:24:31,275 --> 00:24:33,172 I saw a massive spike in radiation 551 00:24:33,275 --> 00:24:36,448 in our gamma ray detectors stationed near Homestead Two 552 00:24:36,551 --> 00:24:38,965 in the area where they were digging. 553 00:24:39,068 --> 00:24:41,620 It could be very dangerous for anyone in that location. 554 00:24:41,724 --> 00:24:44,068 -This is not seven! -Is that 3400? 555 00:24:44,172 --> 00:24:46,310 It's almost 3500. 556 00:24:46,413 --> 00:24:49,896 These are very inexplicable spikes, 557 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,620 as if something artificial could be generating them. 558 00:24:52,724 --> 00:24:55,965 -You got to get those people out of there. -Okay. 559 00:24:56,068 --> 00:24:58,275 ERIK: That... that's... 560 00:25:05,413 --> 00:25:07,000 What's wrong? 561 00:25:07,103 --> 00:25:10,310 Erik pulled the data. There was a spike at 3400. 562 00:25:10,413 --> 00:25:11,965 -3400? -3400. 563 00:25:12,068 --> 00:25:14,931 Everybody out of here now! Everybody out. 564 00:25:15,034 --> 00:25:19,689 Erik just picked up a gamma ray source that was 3400 565 00:25:19,793 --> 00:25:22,551 micro roentgen per hour. 566 00:25:22,655 --> 00:25:24,827 That's a significant dose. 567 00:25:24,931 --> 00:25:27,689 That's enough dose ray that it could be dangerous. 568 00:25:27,793 --> 00:25:29,724 In terms of gamma rays, 569 00:25:29,827 --> 00:25:32,413 that's almost 300 times what would be normal and safe. 570 00:25:32,517 --> 00:25:34,172 You guys, come on. 571 00:25:34,275 --> 00:25:37,517 We had to immediately evacuate the area 572 00:25:37,620 --> 00:25:40,241 and go see if we could get to the bottom of what's going on. 573 00:25:40,344 --> 00:25:42,758 BRYANT: Erik was like, "Go get 'em out of there." 574 00:25:44,275 --> 00:25:46,172 TRAVIS: What's going on, Erik? 575 00:25:46,275 --> 00:25:49,586 ERIK: Travis, you got to see this. 576 00:25:49,689 --> 00:25:51,172 You are not going to like it. 577 00:25:51,275 --> 00:25:53,103 I want you to see... This is what we just logged 578 00:25:53,206 --> 00:25:55,620 in that field between Homestead Two and Homestead Three. 579 00:25:55,724 --> 00:25:57,172 -Okay, now, look. -Holy... 580 00:25:57,275 --> 00:25:58,586 -Look what we got. -Yeah. 581 00:25:58,689 --> 00:26:00,620 -And I want you to see... -Look at that. 582 00:26:00,724 --> 00:26:04,724 ERIK: It's-it's almost 3,500 micro roentgens per hour. 583 00:26:04,827 --> 00:26:07,586 Now get this. You've got other strange behavior here that... 584 00:26:07,689 --> 00:26:10,379 -TRAVIS: Uh-oh. Zeroes. Yeah. -Zeroes. 585 00:26:10,482 --> 00:26:12,241 -Something has interfered... -TRAVIS: Oh. 586 00:26:12,344 --> 00:26:14,310 ...with the data collection process. 587 00:26:14,413 --> 00:26:15,758 -TRAVIS: There's three hours missing here. -It's gone. 588 00:26:15,862 --> 00:26:17,413 It's gone. 589 00:26:17,517 --> 00:26:19,413 TRAVIS: What's really weird is, 590 00:26:19,517 --> 00:26:22,068 there was a big spike in the gamma rays, 591 00:26:22,172 --> 00:26:25,517 and then, there was a complete hole in the data, 592 00:26:25,620 --> 00:26:29,068 meaning the meter said zero radiation. 593 00:26:29,172 --> 00:26:30,724 A gamma ray detector can't do that. 594 00:26:30,827 --> 00:26:32,551 Even if you put it in a lead box, 595 00:26:32,655 --> 00:26:36,655 it's still gonna give you some background reading, not zero. 596 00:26:36,758 --> 00:26:40,103 Here's the thing. So, either we're getting 597 00:26:40,206 --> 00:26:43,379 these horrible gamma rays 598 00:26:43,482 --> 00:26:44,896 -at this level... -TOM: Okay. -KANDUS: Yeah. 599 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,689 ...or something's hacking us. 600 00:26:46,793 --> 00:26:49,068 Either one isn't good, but 601 00:26:49,172 --> 00:26:50,448 we got to treat it like it's the gamma rays 602 00:26:50,551 --> 00:26:51,896 'cause that's the most dangerous right now. 603 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,655 If this is saying, "Don't dig here," 604 00:26:54,758 --> 00:26:56,172 then that's the big, blinky sign that says, 605 00:26:56,275 --> 00:26:58,068 we need to dig right there. 606 00:26:58,172 --> 00:27:00,206 -Right. -And that's what I've said from day one. 607 00:27:00,310 --> 00:27:02,241 And I guess... this only reinforces that. 608 00:27:02,344 --> 00:27:04,310 My question in response is, 609 00:27:04,413 --> 00:27:06,103 what is the smartest way to follow up, 610 00:27:06,206 --> 00:27:08,379 and what is the safest way to follow up? 611 00:27:10,413 --> 00:27:12,655 TRAVIS: Well, the smartest, safest way, the first thing 612 00:27:12,758 --> 00:27:14,137 we got to do is, we need to determine 613 00:27:14,241 --> 00:27:16,034 -what this is, right? -TOM: Mm-hmm. 614 00:27:16,137 --> 00:27:18,103 If something was to happen 615 00:27:18,206 --> 00:27:22,379 to any of us, I mean, this is bad stuff. 616 00:27:22,482 --> 00:27:24,827 TRAVIS: Now that the radiation levels are back 617 00:27:24,931 --> 00:27:27,310 to normal, I think we should wait until tonight, 618 00:27:27,413 --> 00:27:30,137 and go back out there to see what else we can stimulate. 619 00:27:30,241 --> 00:27:32,379 We'll be careful like Dragon wants, 620 00:27:32,482 --> 00:27:34,827 monitoring the whole time with Geiger counters 621 00:27:34,931 --> 00:27:36,172 and the spectrum analyzer, 622 00:27:36,275 --> 00:27:38,379 but we need to keep poking this nest 623 00:27:38,482 --> 00:27:41,827 to see what we can reveal about Skinwalker Ranch. 624 00:27:41,931 --> 00:27:43,896 To be honest, I'm not worried about going back out there, 625 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,551 if you're there monitoring. 626 00:27:46,655 --> 00:27:48,241 All right, great. 627 00:27:48,344 --> 00:27:49,724 Thanks, Erik. 628 00:27:53,517 --> 00:27:56,413 TRAVIS: Yeah, right in here in all these damn weeds. 629 00:27:56,517 --> 00:27:58,448 We waited until nightfall 630 00:27:58,551 --> 00:28:00,413 to go back out near Homestead Two 631 00:28:00,517 --> 00:28:03,241 to see if we could stimulate more phenomena to appear 632 00:28:03,344 --> 00:28:05,103 that might prove or disprove 633 00:28:05,206 --> 00:28:07,620 Colonel Alexander and NIDS' theory 634 00:28:07,724 --> 00:28:10,137 that a portal might exist on Skinwalker Ranch. 635 00:28:10,241 --> 00:28:12,827 All right, I want to get where I can see the bulldozer. 636 00:28:12,931 --> 00:28:14,206 THOMAS: Well, I think we can see it... 637 00:28:15,724 --> 00:28:17,724 -Yeah, it's right there. -BRYANT: Yeah, there it is. 638 00:28:17,827 --> 00:28:20,482 Let's get our stuff set up. 639 00:28:20,586 --> 00:28:23,551 Now, the plan was to set up a safe distance 640 00:28:23,655 --> 00:28:25,482 from the dead bulldozer 641 00:28:25,586 --> 00:28:27,965 and use what's become our tried-and-true method 642 00:28:28,068 --> 00:28:28,793 for stimulating phenomena. 643 00:28:28,896 --> 00:28:29,965 Watch your hand. 644 00:28:30,068 --> 00:28:30,896 TRAVIS: Launching a rocket. 645 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,310 We are ready to launch! 646 00:28:33,413 --> 00:28:36,310 We also set up a spectrum analyzer to look out 647 00:28:36,413 --> 00:28:37,517 for any strange RF energy. 648 00:28:37,620 --> 00:28:39,655 Okay, so this is up and running. 649 00:28:39,758 --> 00:28:40,827 And we put a Geiger counter right next 650 00:28:40,931 --> 00:28:42,724 to the stalled bulldozer 651 00:28:42,827 --> 00:28:44,655 to check for any more dangerous gamma rays. 652 00:28:44,758 --> 00:28:47,655 -That's really, really low. -Good. That makes me happy. 653 00:28:47,758 --> 00:28:49,310 TRAVIS: We also brought out 654 00:28:49,413 --> 00:28:51,482 a night vision monocular scope so that 655 00:28:51,586 --> 00:28:53,275 we could safely observe from a distance 656 00:28:53,379 --> 00:28:56,137 if anything weird happened over there. 657 00:28:56,241 --> 00:28:57,655 At this stage in the investigation, 658 00:28:57,758 --> 00:29:00,413 safety was still paramount, as always. 659 00:29:00,517 --> 00:29:02,034 Going hot! 660 00:29:02,137 --> 00:29:03,931 But we all agree that we need 661 00:29:04,034 --> 00:29:06,448 to be aggressive in order to get some answers. 662 00:29:06,551 --> 00:29:08,551 -Thomas, you ready? -Yeah, whenever you are. 663 00:29:08,655 --> 00:29:12,103 All right, here we go. Five, 664 00:29:12,206 --> 00:29:14,655 four, three, 665 00:29:14,758 --> 00:29:16,965 two, 666 00:29:17,068 --> 00:29:19,034 one. 667 00:29:26,310 --> 00:29:28,034 -THOMAS: Oh, got the chute. -TRAVIS: We got the chute! 668 00:29:28,137 --> 00:29:30,448 It's coming down right over here. 669 00:29:30,551 --> 00:29:33,103 THOMAS: Coming down fast. 670 00:29:33,206 --> 00:29:36,310 The chute hasn't opened. 671 00:29:36,413 --> 00:29:37,896 Boom! 672 00:29:38,965 --> 00:29:40,724 TRAVIS: Now, Kaleb, you got it? 673 00:29:40,827 --> 00:29:43,655 Oh, yeah, it landed right in a tree. 674 00:29:43,758 --> 00:29:47,068 THOMAS: I'm looking for any UAPs. 675 00:29:48,137 --> 00:29:50,931 TRAVIS: I don't see nothing. 676 00:29:51,034 --> 00:29:53,000 While Kaleb's getting that, I'm gonna go over here and check 677 00:29:53,103 --> 00:29:54,551 the instruments and stuff. 678 00:29:54,655 --> 00:29:56,517 He may need some help. I don't know. 679 00:29:56,620 --> 00:29:58,344 Kaleb, you need help? 680 00:29:58,448 --> 00:30:01,172 I got it. 681 00:30:01,275 --> 00:30:04,551 I can't figure out why the chute didn't open, though. 682 00:30:04,655 --> 00:30:07,034 Erik, are you doing something at 1.6? 683 00:30:07,137 --> 00:30:09,379 I'm not broadcasting. 684 00:30:09,482 --> 00:30:10,620 THOMAS: What are you seeing? 685 00:30:10,724 --> 00:30:12,551 TRAVIS: A signal? 686 00:30:12,655 --> 00:30:16,206 1.60000... 687 00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:19,103 When the chute failed to open, 688 00:30:19,206 --> 00:30:21,206 and the rocket crashed down near the homestead, 689 00:30:21,310 --> 00:30:22,827 I didn't want to jump to conclusions, 690 00:30:22,931 --> 00:30:24,724 but then, right on cue, 691 00:30:24,827 --> 00:30:27,034 Erik's spectrum analyzer registered that freaky, 692 00:30:27,137 --> 00:30:30,206 1.6 gigahertz energy level that has coincided 693 00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:33,379 with almost every phenomenon we've witnessed out here. 694 00:30:33,482 --> 00:30:36,862 -You want me sweeping around? It's... -Yeah, yeah, I do. 695 00:30:36,965 --> 00:30:39,137 Something was starting to happen. 696 00:30:39,241 --> 00:30:42,896 Oh, whoa, whoa! Right there. 697 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,517 The one signal went away. 698 00:30:45,620 --> 00:30:47,448 Go back the other way. 699 00:30:47,551 --> 00:30:50,517 Well, it's coming back. Oh, right there, right there. Stop. 700 00:30:50,620 --> 00:30:52,551 -So, it's very directional? -TRAVIS: Yes. 701 00:30:53,724 --> 00:30:55,344 That's southwest. 702 00:30:55,448 --> 00:30:57,103 That's right where the rocket just went. 703 00:30:57,206 --> 00:30:58,758 Yeah. 704 00:30:58,862 --> 00:31:01,241 Are you kidding me? 705 00:31:01,344 --> 00:31:03,275 Thomas's thought to turn the antenna 706 00:31:03,379 --> 00:31:05,758 connected to the spectrum analyzer 707 00:31:05,862 --> 00:31:08,620 was brilliant because it clearly showed us 708 00:31:08,724 --> 00:31:10,448 that the 1.6 gigahertz signal 709 00:31:10,551 --> 00:31:12,965 was coming from the same direction in the sky 710 00:31:13,068 --> 00:31:15,758 that the rocket had just flown through. 711 00:31:15,862 --> 00:31:17,862 The question was, what the hell was it? 712 00:31:17,965 --> 00:31:20,379 Let me... let me go up and down with it. 713 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,344 TRAVIS: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Stop. 714 00:31:27,689 --> 00:31:31,275 Suddenly, two signals right when you did that. 715 00:31:31,379 --> 00:31:33,413 So, look, we've got three peaks. 716 00:31:33,517 --> 00:31:36,068 THOMAS: That means nothing to me. 717 00:31:36,172 --> 00:31:37,517 Well, it doesn't mean a lot to us except, 718 00:31:37,620 --> 00:31:38,931 usually, if it's a communication signal, 719 00:31:39,034 --> 00:31:40,275 you'll see one big one in the middle 720 00:31:40,379 --> 00:31:42,103 and then, two smaller ones on the side. 721 00:31:42,206 --> 00:31:42,931 -ERIK: At equal distances. -TRAVIS: And that's kind of 722 00:31:43,034 --> 00:31:44,310 what we're seeing, 723 00:31:44,413 --> 00:31:45,724 but this one's coming and going, which is odd. 724 00:31:47,344 --> 00:31:50,310 -Want to try and listen to it? -ERIK: Yeah. 725 00:31:50,413 --> 00:31:51,965 [high-pitched static] 726 00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:59,448 It's chirping in frequency. 727 00:31:59,551 --> 00:32:03,137 That's a communication signal or something. 728 00:32:03,241 --> 00:32:05,655 -That's... -ERIK: So all that disappears 729 00:32:05,758 --> 00:32:07,724 -when you go off down here? -Yeah, yeah. 730 00:32:07,827 --> 00:32:09,448 I mean, it's got to be right there, and... 731 00:32:09,551 --> 00:32:12,655 I mean, it's got to... It's a small, a very small cone. 732 00:32:12,758 --> 00:32:14,137 ERIK: That's interesting. 733 00:32:14,241 --> 00:32:17,344 So, if it were a deep sky object, 734 00:32:17,448 --> 00:32:19,689 -in 15 minutes, it'd be gone. -Mm-hmm. 735 00:32:19,793 --> 00:32:21,517 Because of the rotation of the Earth. 736 00:32:21,620 --> 00:32:23,241 From my experience as a rocket scientist, 737 00:32:23,344 --> 00:32:25,586 this sound frequency was 738 00:32:25,689 --> 00:32:27,827 like the kind of communication signal you would get 739 00:32:27,931 --> 00:32:29,689 from a satellite orbiting the Earth, 740 00:32:29,793 --> 00:32:31,793 or even farther out in space. 741 00:32:31,896 --> 00:32:33,482 Listen to that! 742 00:32:33,586 --> 00:32:35,310 But the signal was coming from the area 743 00:32:35,413 --> 00:32:38,034 above the ranch where we shot the rocket, 744 00:32:38,137 --> 00:32:41,000 and it was pointed directly at Homestead Two. 745 00:32:41,103 --> 00:32:43,586 So, what would be broadcasting a communication signal 746 00:32:43,689 --> 00:32:47,586 like that, and where could it be coming from? 747 00:32:47,689 --> 00:32:49,241 Okay, so you say it's pointed 748 00:32:49,344 --> 00:32:50,689 to where we just shot the rocket. 749 00:32:50,793 --> 00:32:52,689 So, what? That's our message, 750 00:32:52,793 --> 00:32:54,724 and this is the message coming back? 751 00:32:54,827 --> 00:32:59,482 I mean, I know that's a stretch, but [bleep], after everything 752 00:32:59,586 --> 00:33:01,655 that's gone down today, I have no clue. 753 00:33:01,758 --> 00:33:03,586 That's not a... I don't know. 754 00:33:03,689 --> 00:33:06,448 I swear that sounds like a communication signal. 755 00:33:06,551 --> 00:33:08,172 [high-pitched static] 756 00:33:08,275 --> 00:33:10,413 [static stops] 757 00:33:10,517 --> 00:33:12,034 ERIK: It stopped. 758 00:33:20,448 --> 00:33:22,517 I don't know what elsep to say about it. I mean, 759 00:33:22,620 --> 00:33:25,137 everything's been quiet, except for that thing. 760 00:33:25,241 --> 00:33:27,034 But, yeah, the Geiger counter hadn't had a single 761 00:33:27,137 --> 00:33:31,103 thing over, like, 15 or 16 all night. 762 00:33:31,206 --> 00:33:32,655 -Good. -I know. [laughs] 763 00:33:32,758 --> 00:33:34,655 -Good. -Right? 764 00:33:34,758 --> 00:33:37,137 Uh, confusing, but good. 765 00:33:37,241 --> 00:33:39,310 We've had a hell of a day. 766 00:33:39,413 --> 00:33:41,689 TRAVIS: That mysterious 1.6 gigahertz 767 00:33:41,793 --> 00:33:44,724 frequency sound suddenly stopped. 768 00:33:44,827 --> 00:33:47,827 Now, I'm not sure, but to me, it sounded like some sort 769 00:33:47,931 --> 00:33:49,689 of communication signal. 770 00:33:49,793 --> 00:33:51,931 It's crazy to think about, but we need to try 771 00:33:52,034 --> 00:33:54,344 and figure out what in the heck it could be 772 00:33:54,448 --> 00:33:56,689 and why we're receiving it. 773 00:33:56,793 --> 00:33:59,034 All right, well, let's-let's load up. 774 00:33:59,137 --> 00:34:00,586 -All right. -Okay. 775 00:34:07,517 --> 00:34:09,206 TRAVIS: What's going on, Erik? 776 00:34:09,310 --> 00:34:11,965 -Well, I'm looking through some footage. -Yeah? 777 00:34:12,068 --> 00:34:14,103 Yeah, I've got something to show you. 778 00:34:14,206 --> 00:34:16,068 TRAVIS: The day after our night experiment 779 00:34:16,172 --> 00:34:18,241 at Homestead Two, Erik called us in to review something 780 00:34:18,344 --> 00:34:19,931 in his surveillance footage 781 00:34:20,034 --> 00:34:23,241 that got him both excited and a little freaked out. 782 00:34:23,344 --> 00:34:25,000 You know, we've got all these new cameras out 783 00:34:25,103 --> 00:34:27,000 at the homesteads, so, you know, 784 00:34:27,103 --> 00:34:29,965 I-I get plenty of critter activity. 785 00:34:30,068 --> 00:34:31,517 We have a lot deer, we have a lot of... 786 00:34:31,620 --> 00:34:33,241 At night, we have birds 787 00:34:33,344 --> 00:34:34,724 and bats, especially. 788 00:34:34,827 --> 00:34:36,620 But between all of that, 789 00:34:36,724 --> 00:34:39,206 once in a while, we get some things that just don't fit in. 790 00:34:39,310 --> 00:34:41,896 You know? You know what it looks like when you've got a, 791 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,137 you know, moth, or a, you know, some kind of insect, or 792 00:34:45,241 --> 00:34:47,310 a piece of debris flying across your field of view. 793 00:34:47,413 --> 00:34:50,034 But I've got something here that doesn't fit in. 794 00:34:50,137 --> 00:34:51,793 -Really? -Yeah. 795 00:34:51,896 --> 00:34:54,896 It happened just last night after our experiment. 796 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,758 I'm gonna play this real time. 797 00:34:57,862 --> 00:35:01,586 BRYANT: So, what camera are we looking at specifically here? 798 00:35:01,689 --> 00:35:03,931 This is out at the Carriage House. 799 00:35:04,034 --> 00:35:06,137 Now, Car... That's the thing across the road 800 00:35:06,241 --> 00:35:08,103 -from Homestead Two, right? -Yeah. 801 00:35:08,206 --> 00:35:10,068 So, looking back toward Homestead Two? It's that one? 802 00:35:10,172 --> 00:35:11,965 -Yeah. -Okay, so across the canal. 803 00:35:12,068 --> 00:35:13,344 Yeah. 804 00:35:16,137 --> 00:35:19,482 TRAVIS: What on Earth is that? 805 00:35:19,586 --> 00:35:22,068 What the hell is that? 806 00:35:22,172 --> 00:35:23,965 Okay, so, let's play this through, 807 00:35:24,068 --> 00:35:27,137 and I really want your thoughts on what this might be. 808 00:35:27,241 --> 00:35:30,413 TRAVIS: Oh, it's behind the tree, so it's far enough away. 809 00:35:30,517 --> 00:35:31,965 ERIK: Right. 810 00:35:32,068 --> 00:35:33,965 -Play that again. -ERIK: Sure. 811 00:35:34,068 --> 00:35:35,620 THOMAS: You can see the other particles around. 812 00:35:35,724 --> 00:35:38,827 TRAVIS: So, it's leaving a trail. 813 00:35:38,931 --> 00:35:41,034 -Go back, Erik. Go back... -ERIK: Sure. 814 00:35:41,137 --> 00:35:43,310 -about, um... -Sure. Yeah, point out the trail. 815 00:35:43,413 --> 00:35:45,034 Is that camera lag? 816 00:35:45,137 --> 00:35:46,413 -ERIK: It could be. -Stop right there. 817 00:35:46,517 --> 00:35:47,793 ERIK: Uh-huh. 818 00:35:47,896 --> 00:35:48,689 You can even see the trail behind it. 819 00:35:48,793 --> 00:35:50,172 Now let it... watch it go. 820 00:35:50,275 --> 00:35:51,448 It leaves a trail behind it as it goes. 821 00:35:53,896 --> 00:35:55,931 -All right, stop. You see it? -ERIK: Sure. 822 00:35:56,034 --> 00:35:58,379 TRAVIS: You see it back there? 823 00:35:58,482 --> 00:36:00,379 Now, what's the frame rate of this camera? 824 00:36:00,482 --> 00:36:03,896 Um, these are set, I believe, to 24. I... 825 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,758 -Well, that's not moving much faster than that. -No. 826 00:36:06,862 --> 00:36:10,206 So it shouldn't be causing frame delay. 827 00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:12,241 -ERIK: I mean, there's frame rate... -There's a black line 828 00:36:12,344 --> 00:36:13,827 through the center of this thing. 829 00:36:13,931 --> 00:36:15,965 -ERIK: Interesting. -TRAVIS: If you look, 830 00:36:16,068 --> 00:36:18,379 there's a line going right through the center of it. 831 00:36:18,482 --> 00:36:20,379 And it's like this. 832 00:36:20,482 --> 00:36:22,379 So, let it play and see if it continues. 833 00:36:22,482 --> 00:36:25,379 ERIK: Okay. Yeah. 834 00:36:25,482 --> 00:36:27,275 TRAVIS: Yeah, it stays through it. 835 00:36:29,413 --> 00:36:31,896 -Let it keep going. -ERIK: Okay. 836 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,206 TRAVIS: So it's not a bug inside the field of view 837 00:36:35,310 --> 00:36:37,034 because it goes behind this tree, right? 838 00:36:37,137 --> 00:36:39,517 BRYANT: Well, it's not... Look at the bugs, Travis. 839 00:36:39,620 --> 00:36:40,862 -You can see the bugs zooming by. -TRAVIS: Yeah. 840 00:36:40,965 --> 00:36:42,896 BRYANT: This thing looks like a balloon 841 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,517 -floating around on the wind. -Yeah, and then it goes 842 00:36:45,620 --> 00:36:47,724 behind the tree over here. 843 00:36:47,827 --> 00:36:51,206 -ERIK: Yeah, but the movement is ver... -BRYANT: Yeah, that one. 844 00:36:51,310 --> 00:36:52,862 ERIK: ...is very organic, I would say. 845 00:36:52,965 --> 00:36:55,137 It's-it's irregular, it's not even just 846 00:36:55,241 --> 00:36:57,000 smoothly moving through the scene. 847 00:36:57,103 --> 00:36:57,827 Well, the interesting thing is, you look at the grass 848 00:36:57,931 --> 00:36:59,724 and the trees. 849 00:36:59,827 --> 00:37:02,620 I don't see really any wind, you know? 850 00:37:02,724 --> 00:37:06,000 -ERIK: Good point. -BRYANT: And so you see it, it drifts over to the right with 851 00:37:06,103 --> 00:37:08,620 no wind going that direction, and then it drifts and 852 00:37:08,724 --> 00:37:10,517 just slowly-- Like I said, it almost looks like 853 00:37:10,620 --> 00:37:13,172 a balloon just floating around. 854 00:37:13,275 --> 00:37:15,758 THOMAS: That's not being affected by the same forces 855 00:37:15,862 --> 00:37:17,655 that are carrying the rest of it. 856 00:37:17,758 --> 00:37:19,965 It's not a balloon, because a balloon would have 857 00:37:20,068 --> 00:37:23,379 been more stochastically, nautically moving about. 858 00:37:23,482 --> 00:37:28,965 And that looks like it's moving with intent. 859 00:37:29,068 --> 00:37:31,206 Comes along, decides it doesn't want to be here, 860 00:37:31,310 --> 00:37:32,896 and it decides to go off this way. 861 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,448 This is unique. 862 00:37:34,551 --> 00:37:35,758 -I... -BRYANT: You know, and it's... 863 00:37:35,862 --> 00:37:37,275 I don't think I've seen anything-- 864 00:37:37,379 --> 00:37:38,793 You've never shown me anything close to that. 865 00:37:38,896 --> 00:37:41,137 Well, it goes in front of those trees and behind 866 00:37:41,241 --> 00:37:45,448 that tree, so that tells us it's at least 30 feet away. 867 00:37:45,551 --> 00:37:48,586 So it's about the size of a volleyball. 868 00:37:48,689 --> 00:37:51,620 Think of it this way. In one night, one span there, 869 00:37:51,724 --> 00:37:55,103 we see a strange communication beam, 870 00:37:55,206 --> 00:37:57,931 and then we see this thing. 871 00:37:58,034 --> 00:38:00,206 Is there a connection? 872 00:38:07,724 --> 00:38:09,310 What's particularly bizarre about this phenomenon 873 00:38:09,413 --> 00:38:11,275 is it happened just after our rocket experiment 874 00:38:11,379 --> 00:38:12,758 at Homestead Two 875 00:38:12,862 --> 00:38:14,965 when we heard that really strange 876 00:38:15,068 --> 00:38:18,758 1.6 gigahertz signal. It all looks to be connected. 877 00:38:18,862 --> 00:38:20,448 I just don't know how or why yet. 878 00:38:20,551 --> 00:38:23,413 In the beginning, it almost looks like it changes 879 00:38:23,517 --> 00:38:24,758 shape a little bit to me. 880 00:38:24,862 --> 00:38:26,448 THOMAS: Is it more, though, that, 881 00:38:26,551 --> 00:38:29,620 looking at the end would be a circle, 882 00:38:29,724 --> 00:38:32,517 but then as it turns, a cigar shape, 883 00:38:32,620 --> 00:38:34,448 because you're getting more of a 3D... 884 00:38:34,551 --> 00:38:37,241 Just like this, right? If you're looking at this 885 00:38:37,344 --> 00:38:39,448 -end on, you think it's a circle, right? -Sure. 886 00:38:39,551 --> 00:38:42,103 If you look at it like this, it's like a line or something, 887 00:38:42,206 --> 00:38:43,620 you know, cigar-shaped. 888 00:38:43,724 --> 00:38:45,586 I'll tell you what it reminds me of. 889 00:38:45,689 --> 00:38:48,586 The Tic Tac, the UAP video. 890 00:38:48,689 --> 00:38:50,793 The UAP that appeared in 891 00:38:50,896 --> 00:38:52,724 the Tic Tac video that was recorded by 892 00:38:52,827 --> 00:38:55,551 the USSNimitz group in 2004 893 00:38:55,655 --> 00:38:58,724 appeared to be cigar-shaped when viewed from certain angles. 894 00:38:58,827 --> 00:39:02,172 But it was reported to look more spherical by the Navy pilots 895 00:39:02,275 --> 00:39:04,034 when it flew straight towards them. 896 00:39:04,137 --> 00:39:07,655 Do any of those objects move around so organically, like-- 897 00:39:07,758 --> 00:39:09,793 -as we see here? -Yes, and they amorphously 898 00:39:09,896 --> 00:39:13,034 change shape, depending on the direction they turn. 899 00:39:13,137 --> 00:39:16,965 So, we've measured a signal many times when we've seen 900 00:39:17,068 --> 00:39:21,827 phenomena occur specifically around 1.6 gigahertz. 901 00:39:21,931 --> 00:39:24,551 We're seeing whatever this thing is, 902 00:39:24,655 --> 00:39:26,517 and interestedly enough, 903 00:39:26,620 --> 00:39:32,000 at the same instant, we see this signal at 1.6 gigahertz. 904 00:39:32,103 --> 00:39:33,655 It's pretty bizarre. 905 00:39:34,724 --> 00:39:36,586 It's crazy is what it is. 906 00:39:36,689 --> 00:39:38,517 I don't know what to say of this, 907 00:39:38,620 --> 00:39:42,517 but I would say you've captured a UAP on camera here, Erik, 908 00:39:42,620 --> 00:39:44,827 and we don't know what it is. 909 00:39:44,931 --> 00:39:47,241 Well, this is just one more case of 910 00:39:47,344 --> 00:39:49,172 strange activity out at the homesteads. 911 00:39:49,275 --> 00:39:50,655 You know, Homestead Two is a place where we see 912 00:39:50,758 --> 00:39:52,482 a lot of this stuff. 913 00:39:52,586 --> 00:39:54,517 So, I'm not going to be satisfied 914 00:39:54,620 --> 00:39:55,931 until I've spent some time doing 915 00:39:56,034 --> 00:39:57,344 -some image processing on this. -Sure. 916 00:39:57,448 --> 00:39:58,517 And I'll come back to you guys and 917 00:39:58,620 --> 00:39:59,827 let you know if I find anything. 918 00:39:59,931 --> 00:40:02,448 All right. Thanks, guys. Good job, Erik. 919 00:40:03,793 --> 00:40:07,241 ERIK: Our fascination, our speculation about the ranch 920 00:40:07,344 --> 00:40:09,689 phenomenon and about how the ranch fits into 921 00:40:09,793 --> 00:40:12,379 the larger picture has only been elevated. 922 00:40:12,482 --> 00:40:14,620 We realize we're not dealing with a simple 923 00:40:14,724 --> 00:40:17,310 problem set, but one that is very complex. 924 00:40:17,413 --> 00:40:20,586 TRAVIS: All of this new data that we have tells us there are 925 00:40:20,689 --> 00:40:22,827 some really weird anomalies. 926 00:40:22,931 --> 00:40:24,241 We don't know what's causing that. 927 00:40:24,344 --> 00:40:26,517 There's so much data. 928 00:40:26,620 --> 00:40:29,172 What is the next level of experimentation 929 00:40:29,275 --> 00:40:32,241 that we need to do to determine what this is? 930 00:40:32,344 --> 00:40:35,034 You can't just go dig everywhere under the ranch to find this. 931 00:40:35,137 --> 00:40:38,103 We're gonna have to find a better way to look deeper 932 00:40:38,206 --> 00:40:40,517 under the surface to figure out what's causing that. 933 00:40:40,620 --> 00:40:43,172 BRANDON: The presence of a signal or a frequency 934 00:40:43,275 --> 00:40:46,034 that seems to attend the events and the activities 935 00:40:46,137 --> 00:40:49,103 on the property may be our greatest discovery yet. 936 00:40:49,206 --> 00:40:52,827 I had always hoped that these activities would lead 937 00:40:52,931 --> 00:40:55,689 to our ability to hopefully communicate 938 00:40:55,793 --> 00:40:59,344 with the entities involved with the ranch. 939 00:40:59,448 --> 00:41:02,241 Now, I believe what we may be seeing is 940 00:41:02,344 --> 00:41:04,206 communication back to us 941 00:41:04,310 --> 00:41:06,344 in ways that we had not anticipated 942 00:41:06,448 --> 00:41:08,034 here at Skinwalker Ranch. 943 00:41:12,275 --> 00:41:14,068 It looks like something's collapsed here. 944 00:41:14,172 --> 00:41:17,068 That tells me that was done to hide something. 945 00:41:17,172 --> 00:41:20,241 There was an area I found on this mesa slope, 946 00:41:20,344 --> 00:41:22,068 and it lead to this open cave. 947 00:41:22,172 --> 00:41:23,896 I'm pretty sure this is it. 948 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,586 What were they hiding in that mesa? 949 00:41:26,689 --> 00:41:30,413 Popping smoke. Look, look, it's getting sucked in. 950 00:41:30,517 --> 00:41:32,724 You guys really stirred the old hornet's nest. 951 00:41:32,827 --> 00:41:35,310 -Look, they're movin'. -ERIK: I've never seen this many 952 00:41:35,413 --> 00:41:36,655 mysterious lights in the sky. 75134

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