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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,333 --> 00:00:04,583 {\an8}Look at that jumping. {\an8}Look-it, it's going nuts. 2 00:00:04,625 --> 00:00:06,375 {\an1}Radiation spikes keep occurring across the ranch. 3 00:00:06,417 --> 00:00:08,542 I get my biggest readings looking up. 4 00:00:08,583 --> 00:00:10,625 TRAVIS: It's coming from the sky. 5 00:00:10,667 --> 00:00:13,500 The measurements lead us to a spot one mile high. 6 00:00:13,542 --> 00:00:15,041 Ignition. 7 00:00:15,083 --> 00:00:18,291 {\an1}The team and I sent up rockets {\an1}to try and identify the source. 8 00:00:18,333 --> 00:00:20,875 {\an4}-We got something. Hold on. -Look, look, look! -What is that? 9 00:00:20,917 --> 00:00:23,500 {\an5}TRAVIS: {\an5}That wasn't a plane. -Oh, there it is again! -There it is again! 10 00:00:23,542 --> 00:00:24,875 {\an1}-It's still in the same spot! -Right there. 11 00:00:24,917 --> 00:00:26,667 TRAVIS: Let's look at the surveillance footage 12 00:00:26,709 --> 00:00:29,208 {\an5}and see if there's something in it. There it is. We saw a UFO. 13 00:00:29,250 --> 00:00:30,333 - And the fact we have... 14 00:00:30,375 --> 00:00:31,959 ...captured this on camera... 15 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,000 ...is nothing short of historic. 16 00:00:35,750 --> 00:00:39,458 {\an5}NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 17 00:00:39,500 --> 00:00:42,041 {\an1}It is considered the epicenter 18 00:00:42,083 --> 00:00:46,750 of the strangest and most {\an1}disturbing phenomena on Earth: 19 00:00:46,792 --> 00:00:49,125 animal mutilations, 20 00:00:49,166 --> 00:00:51,500 bizarre UFO sightings 21 00:00:51,542 --> 00:00:56,709 {\an1}and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 22 00:00:56,750 --> 00:00:59,208 {\an8}For 20 years, {\an8}the federal government 23 00:00:59,250 --> 00:01:02,583 tried to find answers and failed. 24 00:01:02,625 --> 00:01:06,709 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 25 00:01:06,750 --> 00:01:10,583 researchers and experts has taken over. 26 00:01:10,625 --> 00:01:14,625 {\an1}They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 27 00:01:24,291 --> 00:01:25,458 {\an8}(insects chirping) 28 00:01:36,500 --> 00:01:37,667 {\an1}(bird warbling in distance) 29 00:01:37,709 --> 00:01:40,125 (dog barking) 30 00:01:43,208 --> 00:01:45,083 TRAVIS: Gol' dang it, William. 31 00:01:45,125 --> 00:01:47,917 What are you barking at? 32 00:01:47,959 --> 00:01:49,917 {\an7}So, William just woke me up. 33 00:01:49,959 --> 00:01:53,250 {\an8}It's, like, 4:51 a.m. {\an8}in the morning, 34 00:01:53,291 --> 00:01:54,917 {\an1}and he's barking like crazy, 35 00:01:54,959 --> 00:01:57,291 and he took off running out across the field. 36 00:01:57,333 --> 00:02:00,333 I'm gonna go see if I can see what it was. 37 00:02:00,375 --> 00:02:01,625 (unlocking door) 38 00:02:03,875 --> 00:02:05,792 (sighs) 39 00:02:05,834 --> 00:02:09,041 All right, William, what are you barking at? 40 00:02:09,083 --> 00:02:10,917 For the past few days, 41 00:02:10,959 --> 00:02:13,125 I've been staying overnight on the ranch. 42 00:02:13,166 --> 00:02:15,375 {\an1}That way, I can catch strange {\an1}things as they're happening, 43 00:02:15,417 --> 00:02:19,417 but I wasn't expecting {\an1}those things to happen so soon. 44 00:02:19,458 --> 00:02:21,250 {\an1}Sounds like there's something 45 00:02:21,291 --> 00:02:23,542 just screeching in the background. 46 00:02:23,583 --> 00:02:26,291 {\an1}(distant, rhythmic crackling) 47 00:02:26,333 --> 00:02:27,792 {\an1}I... I don't know what that is, 48 00:02:27,834 --> 00:02:29,709 but I'm gonna go look on the spectrum analyzer 49 00:02:29,750 --> 00:02:33,166 and see if maybe... {\an1}maybe it's something on it. 50 00:02:34,709 --> 00:02:36,500 Maybe... this sound 51 00:02:36,542 --> 00:02:38,959 has something to do {\an1}with the crazy microwave signals 52 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,542 we've been seeing. 53 00:02:40,583 --> 00:02:44,583 (sighs) Turn this computer on. 54 00:02:44,625 --> 00:02:46,542 Um... 55 00:02:50,458 --> 00:02:52,750 All right, let's turn this thing on. 56 00:02:52,792 --> 00:02:55,792 {\an1}(low, electronic crackling) 57 00:02:55,834 --> 00:02:58,375 What is that? 58 00:02:58,417 --> 00:03:00,875 {\an1}I'm not sure what I'm seeing. 59 00:03:00,917 --> 00:03:02,959 Wow! 60 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,792 I mean, the-the... there's {\an1}a signal oscillating up and down 61 00:03:05,834 --> 00:03:07,959 between, like, 20-something meg... 62 00:03:08,041 --> 00:03:11,083 26-ish megahertz 63 00:03:11,125 --> 00:03:13,583 {\an1}all the way up to two gigahertz. 64 00:03:13,625 --> 00:03:15,291 This is crazy. 65 00:03:15,333 --> 00:03:17,166 I'm getting a huge and constant level 66 00:03:17,208 --> 00:03:20,583 of radio waves across the {\an1}entire frequency spectral band. 67 00:03:20,625 --> 00:03:23,917 {\an1}It's like turning on a radio {\an1}and having every single station 68 00:03:23,959 --> 00:03:27,166 {\an1}playing the exact same song at the exact same level. 69 00:03:27,208 --> 00:03:31,041 Now, if I move it across, look at the signal. 70 00:03:31,083 --> 00:03:34,583 It's extremely sinusoidal, {\an1}and it has a lot of structure. 71 00:03:34,625 --> 00:03:37,208 I've never seen anything like it. 72 00:03:37,250 --> 00:03:40,792 It just keeps on going {\an1}all the way across the spectrum. 73 00:03:40,834 --> 00:03:43,000 Wow! 74 00:03:43,041 --> 00:03:45,291 That's just insane. 75 00:03:45,333 --> 00:03:48,625 I don't... I don't know what to think about this. 76 00:03:48,667 --> 00:03:51,834 I've never seen anything like it in my life. 77 00:03:55,125 --> 00:03:57,125 ♪ 78 00:04:03,041 --> 00:04:05,250 {\an1}I called you guys here 'cause {\an1}I wanted to talk to you about 79 00:04:05,291 --> 00:04:06,834 what happened to me this morning. 80 00:04:06,875 --> 00:04:10,375 You know, at, uh, 4:51, {\an1}William woke me up barking, 81 00:04:10,417 --> 00:04:12,542 and I went outside {\an1}to see if I could figure out 82 00:04:12,583 --> 00:04:15,125 {\an1}what he was barking at, and-and {\an1}I hear off in the distance 83 00:04:15,166 --> 00:04:17,458 {\an1}this weird "wah, wah, wah." 84 00:04:17,500 --> 00:04:20,625 {\an7}So I figured I'd go in and look {\an8}on the spectrum analyzer, 85 00:04:20,667 --> 00:04:23,458 {\an8}and I'm seeing all these {\an7}signals, from the microwave band 86 00:04:23,500 --> 00:04:27,417 {\an8}all the way down past {\an7}the ham bands at 35 megahertz. 87 00:04:27,458 --> 00:04:29,625 {\an7}Now, to do that, it would be... 88 00:04:29,667 --> 00:04:31,583 {\an8}I don't even know {\an8}how we would do that. 89 00:04:31,625 --> 00:04:33,333 That's... {\an1}it's-it's almost impossible. 90 00:04:33,375 --> 00:04:35,792 Since I've been here with the team 91 00:04:35,834 --> 00:04:37,083 {\an1}investigating Skinwalker Ranch, 92 00:04:37,125 --> 00:04:39,041 a lot of strange and bizarre things 93 00:04:39,083 --> 00:04:40,291 have been happening. 94 00:04:41,792 --> 00:04:44,166 {\an1}-Look, look. Did you see that? -What is that? 95 00:04:44,208 --> 00:04:46,458 We've seen strange lights and glowing effects 96 00:04:46,500 --> 00:04:47,959 coming off the mesa. 97 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,792 My head is hurting bad. 98 00:04:49,834 --> 00:04:51,500 Well, let's get you the heck out of here, man. 99 00:04:51,542 --> 00:04:53,875 We've had people {\an1}suddenly getting lightheaded 100 00:04:53,917 --> 00:04:55,375 or, in the case of Tom Winterton, 101 00:04:55,417 --> 00:04:58,208 getting severe pain {\an1}and swelling in their scalp. 102 00:04:58,250 --> 00:05:00,375 Look-it, it's going nuts. 103 00:05:00,417 --> 00:05:03,125 {\an1}We've discovered that dangerous {\an1}levels of transient radiation 104 00:05:03,166 --> 00:05:06,583 are coming from an area {\an1}about a mile above the ranch. 105 00:05:06,625 --> 00:05:08,000 It's coming from up there. 106 00:05:08,041 --> 00:05:10,041 And when we tried to investigate it 107 00:05:10,083 --> 00:05:12,917 {\an1}with a weather balloon, it just {\an1}disappeared without a trace. 108 00:05:12,959 --> 00:05:14,667 -Where the hell is it? -Oh, wow. 109 00:05:14,709 --> 00:05:16,458 {\an1}And then, just one week ago... 110 00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:18,250 -Ignition. -...we launched a series 111 00:05:18,291 --> 00:05:20,166 of rockets up into that same spot... 112 00:05:20,208 --> 00:05:22,583 {\an5}-Look, look, look. -What is that? -...and suddenly... 113 00:05:22,625 --> 00:05:24,208 -There it is again! -...the entire team 114 00:05:24,250 --> 00:05:28,041 witnessed two UFOs, clear as day. 115 00:05:28,083 --> 00:05:29,667 THOMAS: It's gone. 116 00:05:29,709 --> 00:05:33,709 So, here's one thing {\an1}that it could possibly mean. 117 00:05:33,750 --> 00:05:36,500 This might sound crazy, but what if the only way 118 00:05:36,542 --> 00:05:39,667 to explain all these things is... 119 00:05:41,166 --> 00:05:43,792 ...with a wormhole? 120 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,834 Now, although the existence of wormholes 121 00:05:49,875 --> 00:05:52,291 hasn't been proven yet, Albert Einstein theorized 122 00:05:52,333 --> 00:05:54,792 that they do exist, and assuming you have 123 00:05:54,834 --> 00:05:56,917 a massive amount of energy to cause one, 124 00:05:56,959 --> 00:05:58,625 they could connect two different points 125 00:05:58,667 --> 00:06:00,417 in space and time. 126 00:06:00,458 --> 00:06:03,291 {\an1}I know it's a far-fetched idea, {\an1}but it's about the only thing 127 00:06:03,333 --> 00:06:06,500 {\an1}that I can think of that could {\an1}be responsible for everything 128 00:06:06,542 --> 00:06:08,959 that's been reported to have happened up here. 129 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,583 So, imagine you've got... 130 00:06:11,625 --> 00:06:13,125 a bowl... 131 00:06:13,166 --> 00:06:15,083 that's the Uinta Basin. 132 00:06:15,125 --> 00:06:16,792 -Okay. -And it's roughly... 133 00:06:16,834 --> 00:06:19,625 70 miles... 134 00:06:19,667 --> 00:06:21,458 in diameter across, right? 135 00:06:21,500 --> 00:06:25,250 {\an1}Well, and it's gonna focus {\an1}like this big satellite dish. 136 00:06:25,291 --> 00:06:28,125 Whatever energy hits it, {\an1}it's gonna be focused back up 137 00:06:28,166 --> 00:06:29,792 to a single point. 138 00:06:29,834 --> 00:06:31,417 So, what does that mean? 139 00:06:31,458 --> 00:06:34,917 Is this the spot where {\an1}something weird is happening, 140 00:06:34,959 --> 00:06:37,041 where all this energy is being created 141 00:06:37,083 --> 00:06:39,250 where there was events happening? 142 00:06:39,291 --> 00:06:41,250 Are you thinking of this location 143 00:06:41,291 --> 00:06:44,208 {\an1}as-as a place where the energy is emanating from 144 00:06:44,250 --> 00:06:46,709 or a place {\an1}where it's being harvested? 145 00:06:46,750 --> 00:06:47,917 TRAVIS: That's a good question. 146 00:06:47,959 --> 00:06:50,291 What if the Uinta Basin-- 147 00:06:50,333 --> 00:06:52,500 {\an1}it's got jaggies and things in it-- 148 00:06:52,542 --> 00:06:54,625 {\an1}it could be looking like a lens, and the source 149 00:06:54,667 --> 00:06:57,083 could be beneath it, {\an1}and it could be underground 150 00:06:57,125 --> 00:06:59,125 {\an1}from the center of the Earth coming up 151 00:06:59,166 --> 00:07:00,959 and then being focused to a point. 152 00:07:02,959 --> 00:07:06,917 But the point is, there is a bunch of energy 153 00:07:06,959 --> 00:07:09,625 being focused into a single, tiny spot. 154 00:07:09,667 --> 00:07:13,041 And the question is: 155 00:07:13,083 --> 00:07:15,792 Is this crazy signal we're seeing... 156 00:07:15,834 --> 00:07:17,583 doing that? 157 00:07:17,625 --> 00:07:20,166 Is it creating some type of event 158 00:07:20,208 --> 00:07:22,583 {\an1}that is something like Einstein, you know, theor... 159 00:07:22,625 --> 00:07:24,166 {\an1}was theorizing, and then... 160 00:07:24,208 --> 00:07:26,375 is like you see in science-fiction movies? 161 00:07:26,417 --> 00:07:28,375 So, in other words, what we're saying is that 162 00:07:28,417 --> 00:07:31,208 {\an1}to us, standing here, this {\an1}could look like an orb to us. 163 00:07:31,250 --> 00:07:33,417 Or it could look like a portal to us. 164 00:07:33,458 --> 00:07:37,000 We have all these crazy gamma and neutrons. 165 00:07:37,041 --> 00:07:38,667 It could also create 166 00:07:38,709 --> 00:07:40,959 some of the weird other {\an1}RF signals that we're seeing. 167 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,000 {\an1}That's a really good point. 168 00:07:42,041 --> 00:07:43,250 -Yeah. -Yeah. 169 00:07:43,291 --> 00:07:46,166 {\an8}In 2016, {\an7}I purchased Skinwalker Ranch 170 00:07:46,208 --> 00:07:47,959 {\an8}from Robert Bigelow. 171 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,583 Prior to transfer of ownership, 172 00:07:50,625 --> 00:07:54,000 Bigelow cautioned me that we were dealing with forces 173 00:07:54,041 --> 00:07:55,917 that are very powerful, 174 00:07:55,959 --> 00:07:59,458 {\an1}that are not easily understood or characterized. 175 00:08:00,709 --> 00:08:02,542 There are amazing stories 176 00:08:02,583 --> 00:08:05,333 {\an1}claiming that one of the most interesting observations 177 00:08:05,375 --> 00:08:08,375 made by not only Bigelow's team but others 178 00:08:08,417 --> 00:08:10,125 is the presence of portals 179 00:08:10,166 --> 00:08:12,959 that have appeared {\an1}in the area of the homesteads. 180 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,333 Literally midair, 181 00:08:14,375 --> 00:08:17,041 they've seen truly a window 182 00:08:17,083 --> 00:08:19,625 into what appeared to be another world-- 183 00:08:19,667 --> 00:08:22,667 other skylines or other landscapes 184 00:08:22,709 --> 00:08:25,250 that they could see through those portals 185 00:08:25,291 --> 00:08:28,083 that-that are difficult to describe. 186 00:08:29,333 --> 00:08:31,083 You realize how... 187 00:08:31,125 --> 00:08:33,125 {\an1}-outlandish this whole thing... {\an1}-It sounds crazy and nuts. 188 00:08:33,166 --> 00:08:35,542 {\an1}Absolutely crazy and nuts, {\an1}and this is the only theory 189 00:08:35,583 --> 00:08:37,792 -we've come up with yet. {\an1}-That encompasses all of... 190 00:08:37,834 --> 00:08:40,208 That-that-that everything {\an1}we've measured, heard, seen, 191 00:08:40,250 --> 00:08:42,041 stories, craziness, 192 00:08:42,083 --> 00:08:46,458 it all can be tied into this explanation. 193 00:08:46,500 --> 00:08:49,834 {\an1}But it's interesting that we've {\an1}got at least a hypothesis. 194 00:08:49,875 --> 00:08:52,917 {\an1}Energy's coming from the Earth, and it's getting focused 195 00:08:52,959 --> 00:08:55,375 {\an1}-to a spot up there, but... -Yeah. 196 00:08:55,417 --> 00:08:57,583 ...a hypothesis isn't worth anything 197 00:08:57,625 --> 00:08:59,333 unless you can create an experiment 198 00:08:59,375 --> 00:09:00,834 to test that hypothesis. 199 00:09:00,875 --> 00:09:05,041 {\an1}So we understand the hypothesis. 200 00:09:05,083 --> 00:09:07,959 {\an1}I think we go and figure out if the energy source 201 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,959 may be coming from inside the Earth. 202 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,041 That's here under Skinwalker Ranch. 203 00:09:12,083 --> 00:09:14,041 We should go and see if we can measure 204 00:09:14,083 --> 00:09:15,792 {\an1}these weird signals down there. 205 00:09:15,834 --> 00:09:18,208 We need to do ground-penetrating radar. 206 00:09:18,250 --> 00:09:21,834 {\an1}We've got to do resistivity {\an1}measurements out in the field. 207 00:09:21,875 --> 00:09:23,500 Now, there's an experiment we could do. 208 00:09:23,542 --> 00:09:26,750 Yeah. It gives us a place to start looking. 209 00:09:26,792 --> 00:09:28,208 TRAVIS: So maybe that's it. 210 00:09:28,250 --> 00:09:29,875 Maybe the tremendous energy source 211 00:09:29,917 --> 00:09:32,166 we would have to have {\an1}to produce this portal effect 212 00:09:32,208 --> 00:09:33,917 {\an1}is located deep underground. 213 00:09:33,959 --> 00:09:37,458 That would validate {\an1}what Eric suspected all along. 214 00:09:37,500 --> 00:09:39,583 {\an1}All right, so I say we quit talking about it, 215 00:09:39,625 --> 00:09:41,375 and then we get up and go start figuring out 216 00:09:41,417 --> 00:09:43,083 {\an1}-what we got to do to do it. -I agree. 217 00:09:43,125 --> 00:09:45,417 {\an5}-All right, let's do this. -Okay, cool. -Okay. 218 00:09:53,041 --> 00:09:55,875 {\an7}TRAVIS: Because we don't know {\an7}if the strange radiation surges 219 00:09:55,917 --> 00:09:57,583 {\an7}we've been getting are coming 220 00:09:57,625 --> 00:09:59,709 {\an8}from high above the ranch {\an8}or below it, 221 00:09:59,750 --> 00:10:01,959 {\an7}we've invited a team of experts {\an8}to come up here 222 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,125 {\an8}and conduct a series {\an8}of noninvasive tests. 223 00:10:05,166 --> 00:10:06,667 -How's it going? -Good. How are you? 224 00:10:06,709 --> 00:10:07,917 -Good. -That way, 225 00:10:07,959 --> 00:10:09,542 if there really is something dangerous 226 00:10:09,583 --> 00:10:10,834 or life-threatening underground, 227 00:10:10,875 --> 00:10:12,959 {\an1}we might be able to find out what it is 228 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,208 before we start digging. 229 00:10:15,250 --> 00:10:21,500 {\an7}We haven't done experiments yet {\an7}to look beneath the surface. {\an8}-Okay. {\an5}-So, we've been doing 230 00:10:21,542 --> 00:10:23,417 {\an8}some measurements {\an8}with these signals 231 00:10:23,458 --> 00:10:28,125 {\an7}that we've been picking up, {\an7}and we've kind of triangulated {\an8}a few hot spots, 232 00:10:28,166 --> 00:10:29,375 {\an1}and this is the starting line. 233 00:10:29,417 --> 00:10:31,208 {\an1}And anywhere there's a roadway, 234 00:10:31,250 --> 00:10:34,000 {\an1}flat surface along all the way {\an1}from the gate on the east end 235 00:10:34,041 --> 00:10:37,333 {\an1}to the fence on the west end, {\an1}just start mapping it out. 236 00:10:37,375 --> 00:10:39,458 Then we'll go from there to the mesa, 237 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:42,333 {\an1}and then maybe out into the {\an1}field and around the homesteads. 238 00:10:42,375 --> 00:10:43,625 Okay. 239 00:10:43,667 --> 00:10:45,125 Since there is so much varied area 240 00:10:45,166 --> 00:10:46,542 {\an1}of Skinwalker Ranch to cover, 241 00:10:46,583 --> 00:10:48,208 we decided to use two different methods 242 00:10:48,250 --> 00:10:49,834 {\an1}to search below the surface. 243 00:10:49,875 --> 00:10:53,583 One is GPR, {\an1}or ground-penetrating radar, 244 00:10:53,625 --> 00:10:56,291 which works by sending {\an1}radio waves down into the earth 245 00:10:56,333 --> 00:10:59,750 {\an1}that will bounce off of any {\an1}solid objects or structures. 246 00:10:59,792 --> 00:11:02,041 And soil resistivity, 247 00:11:02,083 --> 00:11:03,542 which does pretty much the same thing, 248 00:11:03,583 --> 00:11:05,834 but it uses metal stakes and wires 249 00:11:05,875 --> 00:11:08,375 to send electrical currents down into the ground. 250 00:11:08,417 --> 00:11:11,542 So, what we should do {\an1}is kind of divide and conquer. 251 00:11:11,583 --> 00:11:13,750 I think, uh, half of us will work 252 00:11:13,792 --> 00:11:15,834 {\an1}on the ground-penetrating radar, and the other half 253 00:11:15,875 --> 00:11:18,083 will do the resistivity measurements. 254 00:11:18,125 --> 00:11:19,959 Truck's right here, {\an1}it's a good place to start. 255 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,500 {\an1}So just pull the equipment out, {\an1}and let's-let's just get going. 256 00:11:22,542 --> 00:11:24,125 -All right, sounds good. -Let's get her out. 257 00:11:24,166 --> 00:11:26,250 -Let's get to it. -ERIK: Here on the ranch, 258 00:11:26,291 --> 00:11:30,458 we have seen a correlation between digging activities 259 00:11:30,500 --> 00:11:32,875 and some injuries to individuals. 260 00:11:32,917 --> 00:11:34,709 {\an8}So I've taken the position 261 00:11:34,750 --> 00:11:36,583 {\an8}that invasive activities {\an8}like digging 262 00:11:36,625 --> 00:11:41,208 {\an8}should be first justified {\an8}by less invasive methods. 263 00:11:41,250 --> 00:11:43,792 Come on back. Ho, ho, ho. 264 00:11:43,834 --> 00:11:45,750 {\an5}ERIK: A good example of that is the GPR survey 265 00:11:45,792 --> 00:11:47,709 and the resistivity measurements. 266 00:11:47,750 --> 00:11:51,250 {\an1}Those are the kinds of things {\an1}that put exercises like digging 267 00:11:51,291 --> 00:11:54,000 or drilling on a more firm foundation. 268 00:11:54,041 --> 00:11:58,208 Particularly in view {\an1}of the fact that human safety 269 00:11:58,250 --> 00:12:02,166 {\an1}and life is held in the balance. 270 00:12:02,208 --> 00:12:04,750 {\an1}We've got everything loaded to {\an1}do the resistivity measurements. 271 00:12:04,792 --> 00:12:07,250 {\an1}So, uh, why don't we take it over there, and you guys 272 00:12:07,291 --> 00:12:08,917 are gonna continue with the GPR, right? 273 00:12:08,959 --> 00:12:10,291 -Correct. -All right. 274 00:12:10,333 --> 00:12:11,917 {\an8}I gave them the flags. {\an8}Mark the spots 275 00:12:11,959 --> 00:12:13,083 {\an7}if you find anything weird. 276 00:12:13,125 --> 00:12:14,291 {\an8}All right. Let's load up. 277 00:12:14,333 --> 00:12:15,458 -Sounds good. -Let's roll. 278 00:12:15,500 --> 00:12:17,166 I got shotgun. 279 00:12:20,834 --> 00:12:22,917 {\an5}PHIL: So, guys, what we'll be doing now 280 00:12:22,959 --> 00:12:24,709 {\an1}is we're gonna be pulling this. 281 00:12:24,750 --> 00:12:26,750 Uh, this is our GX160. 282 00:12:26,792 --> 00:12:29,500 we're gonna be pulling it behind this ATV. 283 00:12:29,542 --> 00:12:32,083 And we'll figure out {\an1}a suitable way to pull that. 284 00:12:32,125 --> 00:12:34,375 {\an8}I think I've got an idea {\an8}of how we can do it 285 00:12:34,417 --> 00:12:35,959 {\an7}-so it doesn't slide around. {\an8}-Right. 286 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,125 {\an8}Okay, and then we'll use {\an8}the dual-frequency system 287 00:12:39,166 --> 00:12:41,333 {\an8}to do the homestead work. 288 00:12:41,375 --> 00:12:43,667 -Sounds great. -Cool. All right. 289 00:12:43,709 --> 00:12:47,333 What we're going to do is pull this latch up. 290 00:12:47,375 --> 00:12:52,875 {\an1}And then what we'll do here {\an1}is we've got two power buttons. 291 00:12:52,917 --> 00:12:55,500 We've got a power button on the monitor, 292 00:12:55,542 --> 00:12:58,041 and we have one down here on the antenna, 293 00:12:58,083 --> 00:13:01,375 and that will fire the system up. 294 00:13:05,875 --> 00:13:08,125 PHIL: Oh, my gosh. 295 00:13:08,166 --> 00:13:11,959 This was fully charged, {\an1}so I'm... it's-it's a mystery. 296 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,792 ERIK: So, we can't start now? 297 00:13:13,834 --> 00:13:15,834 We actually can't start with this system. 298 00:13:15,875 --> 00:13:18,750 {\an1}At least with the-the battery this low. 299 00:13:18,792 --> 00:13:21,250 {\an5}ERIK: Why would it be down in the red now? 300 00:13:21,291 --> 00:13:23,041 That's a good question, because it... 301 00:13:23,083 --> 00:13:25,166 the system has to be on 302 00:13:25,208 --> 00:13:28,291 in order for it to utilize {\an1}those lithium-ion batteries. 303 00:13:29,834 --> 00:13:32,542 Uh, why don't we check the other system? 304 00:13:32,583 --> 00:13:34,750 {\an1}It was completely powered, too, and let's just see 305 00:13:34,792 --> 00:13:37,583 {\an5}-what the batteries look like on that. -Yeah that's a good idea. 306 00:13:37,625 --> 00:13:39,792 {\an5}ERIK: It's not uncommon that we experience problems 307 00:13:39,834 --> 00:13:43,375 {\an1}with battery-powered systems on this property. 308 00:13:43,417 --> 00:13:45,542 {\an7}Everything from mobile devices, {\an7}including our cell phones, 309 00:13:45,583 --> 00:13:48,542 {\an8}our tablets, uh, {\an8}laptop computers, 310 00:13:48,583 --> 00:13:50,542 {\an8}audio/video equipment, 311 00:13:50,583 --> 00:13:53,291 {\an8}have experienced {\an8}some kind of an anomaly, 312 00:13:53,333 --> 00:13:56,792 {\an7}as a result of some influence {\an7}that is prevalent on the ranch. 313 00:13:56,834 --> 00:13:59,250 {\an8}Dude, I will tell {\an7}my phone battery just went... 314 00:13:59,291 --> 00:14:01,583 {\an5}-(blows raspberry) -Your battery's dead on your phone? 315 00:14:01,625 --> 00:14:03,417 {\an5}TRAVIS: {\an1}Yeah. Your battery's dead, too, ain't it? 316 00:14:03,458 --> 00:14:05,834 {\an8}It shut off. 317 00:14:05,875 --> 00:14:07,959 {\an4}-Welcome to Skinwalker Ranch, right? -Right. 318 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,542 I completely charged these four batteries 319 00:14:11,583 --> 00:14:14,667 last evening, {\an1}and now they're into the... 320 00:14:14,709 --> 00:14:16,250 to the yellow section. 321 00:14:17,709 --> 00:14:19,458 ERIK: {\an1}When have you seen that before? 322 00:14:19,500 --> 00:14:21,709 I, quite frankly, have not seen that before. 323 00:14:23,792 --> 00:14:25,875 {\an5}ERIK: Hey, Bryant? Come here, check this out. 324 00:14:25,917 --> 00:14:27,667 So, Phil, would you like {\an1}to explain what you just... 325 00:14:27,709 --> 00:14:29,417 Right, we were getting some highly unusual 326 00:14:29,458 --> 00:14:31,000 battery level there. 327 00:14:31,041 --> 00:14:33,375 Uh, we should be seeing full power there, 328 00:14:33,417 --> 00:14:35,166 and we're seeing about 50%, so... 329 00:14:35,208 --> 00:14:38,125 {\an5}BRYANT: It's another damn battery that's getting trashed. 330 00:14:38,166 --> 00:14:40,166 I guess we'll just keep an eye on it. 331 00:14:40,208 --> 00:14:42,750 I guess you go until it goes off. 332 00:14:42,792 --> 00:14:44,542 -All right. -Yep. 333 00:14:44,583 --> 00:14:48,083 {\an5}ERIK: We've decided to proceed by dragging 334 00:14:48,125 --> 00:14:50,917 one of the instruments behind the UTV. 335 00:14:50,959 --> 00:14:54,500 So, what I did is I ran a wire underneath here, 336 00:14:54,542 --> 00:14:57,375 attached to the body, to hold this tight. 337 00:14:57,417 --> 00:14:59,333 {\an1}-PHIL: Looks very solid to me. -All right. 338 00:14:59,375 --> 00:15:01,417 {\an5}- Hey Erik. -Let's go drag this thing. -ERIK: Yeah? 339 00:15:01,458 --> 00:15:02,458 My phone's freaking out. 340 00:15:03,291 --> 00:15:05,667 {\an8}Just want you to see it. 341 00:15:05,709 --> 00:15:07,333 -ERIK: What is it doing? -I don't know. 342 00:15:07,375 --> 00:15:09,000 It's just been... it's just been doing this 343 00:15:09,041 --> 00:15:10,500 for the last, you know, couple minutes. 344 00:15:10,542 --> 00:15:12,583 I just ran up here so you could see it. 345 00:15:12,625 --> 00:15:15,291 {\an1}It was in my contacts, it tried {\an1}calling a couple of people, 346 00:15:15,333 --> 00:15:18,125 um, and then it's been {\an1}messing around in my camera 347 00:15:18,166 --> 00:15:19,792 the last couple minutes. 348 00:15:19,834 --> 00:15:22,834 -When did this start? {\an1}-About two, three minutes ago. 349 00:15:24,750 --> 00:15:26,583 {\an5}ERIK: It's as if someone was pushing the buttons 350 00:15:26,625 --> 00:15:28,291 and, uh, switching between applications 351 00:15:28,333 --> 00:15:31,083 and sending messages and making phone calls 352 00:15:31,125 --> 00:15:33,208 as fast as anyone could possibly do it. 353 00:15:33,250 --> 00:15:35,375 Dude, that is crazy. 354 00:15:35,417 --> 00:15:37,417 (laughing) 355 00:15:39,750 --> 00:15:43,041 We're laughing at it, but {\an1}I'm not sure that we should be. 356 00:15:49,250 --> 00:15:52,208 {\an7}TRAVIS: While Erik and Dragon {\an7}are working with Phil Oviatt 357 00:15:52,250 --> 00:15:55,375 {\an8}to run GPR from the command {\an7}center to the old homesteads, 358 00:15:55,417 --> 00:15:58,375 {\an7}Jim, Tom and I are heading out {\an8}with Zach Zyla 359 00:15:58,417 --> 00:16:00,375 {\an7}to do a soil resistivity survey. 360 00:16:00,417 --> 00:16:05,333 {\an8}So, Zach, we're interested {\an8}in this field out here. 361 00:16:05,375 --> 00:16:08,291 There's some rumors and stories and myths 362 00:16:08,333 --> 00:16:10,125 and all sorts of things. 363 00:16:10,166 --> 00:16:13,792 There might be underground facilities 364 00:16:13,834 --> 00:16:17,417 or bases or other stuff {\an1}inside this field out here. 365 00:16:17,458 --> 00:16:18,709 -ZACH: Yep. -So, if there's something 366 00:16:18,750 --> 00:16:21,083 besides a field in it, let us know. 367 00:16:21,125 --> 00:16:22,959 ZACH: All right. 368 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,458 {\an5}TRAVIS: All right, so what do we need to do to get started? 369 00:16:25,500 --> 00:16:28,458 {\an4}ZACH: All right, well let's, uh, {\an4}get the gear out of the truck and, uh, start laying out the lines. 370 00:16:28,500 --> 00:16:30,500 All right. 371 00:16:30,542 --> 00:16:31,792 {\an1}All right, so what goes first? 372 00:16:31,834 --> 00:16:33,458 ZACH: {\an1}So, every six feet, we're gonna 373 00:16:33,500 --> 00:16:35,041 {\an5}-place one of these into the ground. -All right. 374 00:16:35,083 --> 00:16:36,375 {\an1}And then you're gonna start. 375 00:16:36,417 --> 00:16:37,959 And you're gonna want to pound it in 376 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,041 about three-quarters of the way 377 00:16:39,083 --> 00:16:40,625 so we get good contact into the ground. 378 00:16:40,667 --> 00:16:42,083 -TRAVIS: All right. -Next, 379 00:16:42,125 --> 00:16:43,959 {\an1}you're gonna take one of these connector cables 380 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,291 {\an1}and connect it to the base. 381 00:16:46,333 --> 00:16:49,041 {\an1}And we're gonna keep moving it {\an1}along all the way to the end. 382 00:16:49,083 --> 00:16:51,500 {\an1}You know what, you drive stakes, {\an1}I'll clip wires. How's that? 383 00:16:51,542 --> 00:16:53,333 SEGALA: I could do that. 384 00:17:00,667 --> 00:17:03,250 {\an5}ZACH: All right, so let me get started. 385 00:17:03,291 --> 00:17:06,000 How quick will it take us {\an1}to actually see something, Zach? 386 00:17:06,041 --> 00:17:07,709 Hopefully, not more than about ten minutes. 387 00:17:07,750 --> 00:17:08,750 Okay. 388 00:17:08,792 --> 00:17:10,083 ZACH: All right. 389 00:17:10,125 --> 00:17:11,208 The line is hot, 390 00:17:11,250 --> 00:17:12,709 {\an1}so everyone please be careful. 391 00:17:12,750 --> 00:17:14,083 {\an1}It's about to start measuring, and hopefully 392 00:17:14,125 --> 00:17:15,417 {\an1}we can get some, uh, good data. 393 00:17:15,458 --> 00:17:16,625 All right, well, good. 394 00:17:16,667 --> 00:17:18,250 Uh, I guess we just wait. 395 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,583 {\an8}ERIK: Am I holding a speed {\an8}that you like there? 396 00:17:24,625 --> 00:17:26,667 {\an8}-PHIL: Yeah, you're good. {\an8}-Okay. 397 00:17:27,959 --> 00:17:29,625 It's gonna get a little bumpy here. 398 00:17:29,667 --> 00:17:31,458 {\an5}BRYANT: Yeah, I think it goes without saying 399 00:17:31,500 --> 00:17:33,083 just be careful going through the dips. 400 00:17:33,125 --> 00:17:35,000 ERIK: Yeah. 401 00:17:35,041 --> 00:17:37,291 {\an1}That thing works like a champ. 402 00:17:37,333 --> 00:17:39,750 It does. 403 00:17:42,083 --> 00:17:44,166 Well, I'm anxious {\an1}to get up by the homestead. 404 00:17:44,208 --> 00:17:45,959 -Well, we're just about... -I know, I know, 405 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,458 we're getting close. 406 00:17:51,792 --> 00:17:53,333 What was that? 407 00:17:53,375 --> 00:17:55,959 PHIL: I don't know. 408 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,291 Could be... 409 00:17:58,333 --> 00:18:00,250 I don't know what that is. 410 00:18:00,291 --> 00:18:03,125 I mean, we certainly see a difference 411 00:18:03,166 --> 00:18:05,166 than this garbage {\an1}we've been seeing the whole way. 412 00:18:05,208 --> 00:18:06,417 -BRYANT: Right. -ERIK: Yeah, yeah. 413 00:18:06,458 --> 00:18:08,208 -That is unusual. -Yeah, it is. 414 00:18:08,250 --> 00:18:10,458 ERIK: So, as we're dragging the device behind us, 415 00:18:10,500 --> 00:18:12,583 Phil noticed that there was a structure. 416 00:18:12,625 --> 00:18:14,375 Could have been something mundane. 417 00:18:14,417 --> 00:18:16,750 {\an1}Could have something to do with {\an1}the utilities on the property. 418 00:18:16,792 --> 00:18:19,583 So, for Phil's benefit, 419 00:18:19,625 --> 00:18:22,250 {\an1}-you see that roof over there? -Yes. 420 00:18:22,291 --> 00:18:25,083 {\an5}BRYANT: {\an1}Right in this grove of trees up on the left. 421 00:18:25,125 --> 00:18:26,917 ERIK: {\an1}We call it Homestead Number Two. 422 00:18:26,959 --> 00:18:28,959 PHIL: Okay, got it, got it. 423 00:18:30,375 --> 00:18:32,417 Now, uh, look at this right here. 424 00:18:32,458 --> 00:18:33,458 ERIK: Okay. 425 00:18:33,500 --> 00:18:35,709 {\an1}Whoa! I see that, I see that. 426 00:18:35,750 --> 00:18:38,041 {\an1}How do you interpret that... that feature? 427 00:18:38,083 --> 00:18:40,291 {\an5}PHIL: Well, it looks like a dome feature. 428 00:18:40,333 --> 00:18:43,792 {\an5}ERIK: Then we see another interesting anomaly 429 00:18:43,834 --> 00:18:45,667 in the Homestead Two area, 430 00:18:45,709 --> 00:18:48,834 and we don't know {\an1}what the origin of those... 431 00:18:48,875 --> 00:18:51,000 structures really is. 432 00:18:51,041 --> 00:18:52,041 Look. 433 00:18:52,083 --> 00:18:53,458 Oh, wow! 434 00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:56,041 -What-what does this? -I cannot tell you 435 00:18:56,083 --> 00:18:58,250 what's causing that. Man, it could be... 436 00:18:58,291 --> 00:19:01,417 {\an1}it could be something buried, you know, metal. 437 00:19:01,458 --> 00:19:03,250 -Really? -Yes. 438 00:19:09,917 --> 00:19:13,125 {\an8}PHIL: All right, {\an7}let's halt the vehicle. I... 439 00:19:13,166 --> 00:19:15,208 -Another dome, you think? -Another dome. 440 00:19:15,250 --> 00:19:16,709 All right. 441 00:19:16,750 --> 00:19:18,709 {\an7}PHIL: I'm looking laterally {\an8}in the data, 442 00:19:18,750 --> 00:19:20,917 {\an8}-Uh-huh. {\an7}-and it's been fairly consistent 443 00:19:20,959 --> 00:19:22,959 {\an8}-through this whole area, {\an8}-Uh-huh. 444 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,208 {\an7}except we've seen features at... 445 00:19:25,250 --> 00:19:27,333 {\an8}several different depths. 446 00:19:27,375 --> 00:19:28,792 {\an7}But you say it could just be 447 00:19:28,834 --> 00:19:30,208 {\an8}-a geological feature? {\an8}-It could be, 448 00:19:30,250 --> 00:19:32,208 {\an8}but it-it... {\an7}doesn't look like it to me. 449 00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:34,709 It looks anomalous. 450 00:19:34,750 --> 00:19:36,458 We'll see if we can duplicate that 451 00:19:36,500 --> 00:19:38,333 -on the way back. -Okay. 452 00:19:38,375 --> 00:19:39,750 It'll be interesting to have a look 453 00:19:39,792 --> 00:19:41,083 -at all of these. -Sure. Okay. 454 00:19:41,125 --> 00:19:43,000 {\an1}-Every one of the patterns. -Okay. 455 00:19:43,041 --> 00:19:45,917 You want to reshoot it all the way back? 456 00:19:45,959 --> 00:19:48,625 {\an5}-Right. Just to-to verify what we've seen. -Okay. 457 00:19:48,667 --> 00:19:52,458 {\an7}You know, I was really excited {\an7}just to get any data at all. 458 00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:54,291 {\an1}You know, when we're talking about the possibility 459 00:19:54,333 --> 00:19:56,125 of metal structure, {\an1}of course it's very exciting. 460 00:19:56,166 --> 00:19:58,583 But we need to go back in the other direction 461 00:19:58,625 --> 00:20:00,875 to verify that we're not just seeing some artifact 462 00:20:00,917 --> 00:20:02,709 but that what we're seeing is real. 463 00:20:04,709 --> 00:20:08,291 {\an5}BRYANT: So, right here is one of the domes we measured. 464 00:20:08,333 --> 00:20:10,583 -Oh, yeah. -It's not quite as evident 465 00:20:10,625 --> 00:20:12,458 as it was. 466 00:20:13,959 --> 00:20:16,500 But you can sure see it. 467 00:20:16,542 --> 00:20:18,333 And we had another one of those up here, too. 468 00:20:18,375 --> 00:20:19,375 ERIK: That's right. 469 00:20:19,417 --> 00:20:22,333 -Okay. -Uh... yeah. 470 00:20:22,375 --> 00:20:23,750 {\an7}-There it comes. There it is. {\an8}-You seeing it? 471 00:20:23,792 --> 00:20:25,875 {\an8}There it is. Oh, my gosh. 472 00:20:25,917 --> 00:20:27,875 {\an5}-That-that's exactly what we saw before. -Okay. 473 00:20:27,917 --> 00:20:29,166 -Perfect. -Very distinct. 474 00:20:29,208 --> 00:20:30,667 ERIK: It's always exciting 475 00:20:30,709 --> 00:20:32,834 {\an1}when you have anomalous data {\an1}and you go back and take it 476 00:20:32,875 --> 00:20:35,041 a second time, {\an1}and you get the same thing. 477 00:20:35,083 --> 00:20:37,083 And that's exactly what we've seen. 478 00:20:37,125 --> 00:20:41,166 {\an1}We're seeing very interesting multilayer structures 479 00:20:41,208 --> 00:20:44,583 at depths of anywhere from {\an1}eight feet below the surface 480 00:20:44,625 --> 00:20:47,875 to 24, 25 feet below the surface. 481 00:20:48,875 --> 00:20:51,417 PHIL: All right. 482 00:20:51,458 --> 00:20:54,208 Stop right here, Erik. 483 00:20:54,250 --> 00:20:55,542 (engine shuts off) 484 00:20:55,583 --> 00:20:57,750 -Interesting. -Oh, wow. 485 00:20:59,583 --> 00:21:02,250 {\an5}-I can see a couple {\an1}of parallel features right here. -Uh-huh. 486 00:21:02,291 --> 00:21:04,542 {\an1}We saw this in both directions. 487 00:21:04,583 --> 00:21:07,208 {\an1}I-I mean, you may be seeing the top and the base 488 00:21:07,250 --> 00:21:08,709 of a possible tunnel. 489 00:21:08,750 --> 00:21:11,125 {\an1}And it opens up as you move this direction. 490 00:21:11,166 --> 00:21:15,542 {\an1}So, we're looking at something quite large in here. 491 00:21:15,583 --> 00:21:18,750 {\an4}- Oh, wow. I hate to point it {\an1}out, but, you know, this is exactly 492 00:21:18,792 --> 00:21:20,375 where we were when we had the difficulty 493 00:21:20,417 --> 00:21:22,250 with the drone survey. 494 00:21:22,291 --> 00:21:23,792 {\an8}-So, let's get going. {\an8}-BRYANT: Yeah. 495 00:21:23,834 --> 00:21:26,125 {\an8}ERIK: This is an area {\an8}where we did try 496 00:21:26,166 --> 00:21:27,291 {\an8}drone thermography {\an8}measurements, 497 00:21:27,333 --> 00:21:29,125 {\an8}but we were not successful, 498 00:21:29,166 --> 00:21:32,166 {\an8}due to some mysterious {\an7}electromagnetic interference. 499 00:21:32,208 --> 00:21:34,542 DERRICK: No connection. 500 00:21:34,583 --> 00:21:38,166 We are in one of the most interesting 501 00:21:38,208 --> 00:21:41,166 and notorious regions of the ranch. 502 00:21:41,208 --> 00:21:42,750 This is Homestead Two. 503 00:21:42,792 --> 00:21:44,542 I'm wondering if this is coincidence. 504 00:21:44,583 --> 00:21:45,625 Clear as mud, Erik. 505 00:21:45,667 --> 00:21:47,417 It's what this place is. 506 00:21:52,500 --> 00:21:54,458 {\an8}ZACHARY: {\an8}Here we go. 507 00:21:54,500 --> 00:21:56,041 {\an8}So, this is the raw data 508 00:21:56,083 --> 00:21:58,041 {\an8}plotted over, you know, {\an8}a 2-D grid. 509 00:21:58,083 --> 00:21:59,917 {\an8}So, blues are going to be {\an8}more conductive, 510 00:21:59,959 --> 00:22:01,834 {\an8}and reds are going to be {\an8}more resistive. 511 00:22:01,875 --> 00:22:03,709 {\an8}TRAVIS: More resistive {\an8}might mean a hole. 512 00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:05,166 {\an8}ZACHARY: {\an8}Yep. 513 00:22:05,208 --> 00:22:08,208 {\an7}-So, that-that could be a cave? {\an8}-Potentially. 514 00:22:08,250 --> 00:22:10,750 We really need to post-process it, 515 00:22:10,792 --> 00:22:12,125 um, and run it through an inversion 516 00:22:12,166 --> 00:22:13,792 so that we can really say what's going on. 517 00:22:13,834 --> 00:22:15,083 TRAVIS: {\an1}Once you do the post-processing, 518 00:22:15,125 --> 00:22:16,709 {\an1}-then we'll know more about it. -Yep. 519 00:22:16,750 --> 00:22:19,542 ERIK (over radio): Hey, Tom, you copy? 520 00:22:19,583 --> 00:22:21,667 THOMAS: Yeah, go ahead. 521 00:22:21,709 --> 00:22:24,166 {\an5}ERIK: Hey, we're getting some really interesting readings 522 00:22:24,208 --> 00:22:26,208 out here at Homestead Two. 523 00:22:26,250 --> 00:22:27,875 I'd like to ask you to just drop whatever you're doing 524 00:22:27,917 --> 00:22:29,792 and bring some {\an1}of Phil's extra gear out here 525 00:22:29,834 --> 00:22:32,166 so we can take a closer look at it. 526 00:22:32,208 --> 00:22:33,959 THOMAS: Okay, I'll grab the guys, 527 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,583 {\an1}and we'll grab the equipment and head that way. 528 00:22:36,625 --> 00:22:38,750 ERIK: Copy. 529 00:22:38,792 --> 00:22:39,959 {\an5}- Okay, just leave this, {\an5}and we'll just head over? - Yeah, we'll... I'll pack this in, 530 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,375 {\an1}and you guys can head over now. 531 00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:44,041 I don't know, man. 532 00:22:44,083 --> 00:22:45,917 -It-it's... -Interesting area. 533 00:22:45,959 --> 00:22:47,417 {\an1}It's too much of a coincidence all the time. 534 00:22:47,458 --> 00:22:48,500 Mm-hmm. 535 00:22:48,542 --> 00:22:50,041 {\an8}BRYANT: {\an8}There they are. 536 00:22:50,083 --> 00:22:51,709 {\an8}That was quick. 537 00:22:53,542 --> 00:22:54,667 See what they got. 538 00:22:56,083 --> 00:22:58,166 -What's up, fellas? -TRAVIS: Hey. 539 00:22:58,208 --> 00:22:59,834 BRYANT: {\an1}You said if you come across 540 00:22:59,875 --> 00:23:01,500 anything in-interesting or intriguing, 541 00:23:01,542 --> 00:23:03,208 we should call you. 542 00:23:03,250 --> 00:23:05,291 -Yeah? You find something? {\an1}-So, that's what we did, plus... 543 00:23:05,333 --> 00:23:07,834 {\an1}We-we found some dome features, 544 00:23:07,875 --> 00:23:10,542 {\an1}anywhere from eight to 25 feet, 545 00:23:10,583 --> 00:23:13,500 that are almost parallel {\an1}with this structure over here. 546 00:23:13,542 --> 00:23:16,250 {\an8}When you say "dome," {\an7}are you talking a formation 547 00:23:16,291 --> 00:23:18,792 {\an8}-or an opening or what? {\an8}-Yes, like a... like a... 548 00:23:18,834 --> 00:23:20,583 It almost looked as though there was 549 00:23:20,625 --> 00:23:23,500 {\an1}the top of the... of a tunnel and the base of a tunnel. 550 00:23:23,542 --> 00:23:26,417 -Oh, a tunnel? -Yes, and it's interesting 551 00:23:26,458 --> 00:23:28,875 that it's parallel to this {\an1}structure right here, as well. 552 00:23:28,917 --> 00:23:30,667 {\an1}That's why we called you guys. 553 00:23:30,709 --> 00:23:33,291 {\an1}We wanted you over here and... {\an1}and to check this area out. 554 00:23:33,333 --> 00:23:35,166 See if we can see any correlation. 555 00:23:35,208 --> 00:23:37,000 Does it appear jagged, or does it appear smooth? 556 00:23:37,041 --> 00:23:38,000 PHIL: It's smooth. 557 00:23:38,041 --> 00:23:39,583 {\an1}So... so, we're-we're seeing 558 00:23:39,625 --> 00:23:42,250 {\an1}almost a domal-type feature, and then it pinches 559 00:23:42,291 --> 00:23:44,125 into a... almost a point. 560 00:23:45,291 --> 00:23:46,458 BRYANT: It looks more like 561 00:23:46,500 --> 00:23:48,166 {\an1}a hollow opening than anything. 562 00:23:48,208 --> 00:23:50,834 {\an1}What I would suggest is to... is to scan this area 563 00:23:50,875 --> 00:23:52,125 with the wide range 564 00:23:52,166 --> 00:23:53,583 and see if we see any correlation 565 00:23:53,625 --> 00:23:55,083 {\an1}between the... between this area 566 00:23:55,125 --> 00:23:56,875 -and that area. -TRAVIS: Yeah. 567 00:23:56,917 --> 00:23:58,875 {\an1}Well, let's get the equipment {\an1}out and let's do it, right? 568 00:23:58,917 --> 00:24:01,000 {\an5}-Grab the wheels. -You got it? -I got it. 569 00:24:01,041 --> 00:24:02,583 SEGALA: For a very long time, 570 00:24:02,625 --> 00:24:04,333 there's been a lot of strange things 571 00:24:04,375 --> 00:24:05,792 going on at Homestead Two. 572 00:24:05,834 --> 00:24:08,375 {\an8}And what I want to do {\an8}is dig around the place 573 00:24:08,417 --> 00:24:10,041 {\an8}because I believe {\an8}there's a possibility 574 00:24:10,083 --> 00:24:12,000 {\an7}that there's something unknown 575 00:24:12,041 --> 00:24:14,500 {\an8}under the ground {\an7}that seems to be seeping up 576 00:24:14,542 --> 00:24:15,959 {\an8}or causing different... 577 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,125 {\an8}causing different, uh, {\an8}phenomena to happen. 578 00:24:18,166 --> 00:24:20,458 -So, let's turn it on. -SEGALA: But there's been 579 00:24:20,500 --> 00:24:23,125 a lot of pushback on digging on the property. 580 00:24:23,166 --> 00:24:25,667 So, of course, with GPR, that gives us 581 00:24:25,709 --> 00:24:28,583 an idea of what might be under there 582 00:24:28,625 --> 00:24:30,166 without really disturbing the ground 583 00:24:30,208 --> 00:24:32,917 and bringing up anything {\an1}that might be toxic underneath. 584 00:24:32,959 --> 00:24:34,750 PHIL: Okay, we're ready. 585 00:24:34,792 --> 00:24:36,041 BRYANT: Hey, Phil? 586 00:24:36,083 --> 00:24:37,792 Sorry to interrupt you, but, I mean, I know 587 00:24:37,834 --> 00:24:39,625 we want to get up on the mesa and do that. 588 00:24:39,667 --> 00:24:41,208 I mean, we're getting late in the day, 589 00:24:41,250 --> 00:24:43,291 and I want to make sure {\an1}that we utilize all the time 590 00:24:43,333 --> 00:24:46,250 {\an1}we have with you gentlemen. {\an1}Can we split up teams here? 591 00:24:46,291 --> 00:24:49,125 {\an4}-Like, Zach go with one of us {\an1}and you go with one group? -Absolutely. 592 00:24:49,166 --> 00:24:51,125 {\an5}-Okay. -Yeah, Phil, why don't you go up to the mesa? 593 00:24:51,166 --> 00:24:52,542 -Sounds good. -You guys okay with that? 594 00:24:52,583 --> 00:24:53,917 {\an1}-Yeah, I'm good with that... -All right. 595 00:24:53,959 --> 00:24:55,417 ...'cause I want to see what you guys have 596 00:24:55,458 --> 00:24:56,917 -already seen here, so... -That makes sense. 597 00:24:56,959 --> 00:24:58,917 {\an5}-Let's take it and... and get it going. -All right. 598 00:24:58,959 --> 00:25:01,542 {\an5}TRAVIS: {\an1}Now that the wide-range system has been recharged, 599 00:25:01,583 --> 00:25:05,208 {\an1}Jim, Zach and I are going to {\an1}run GPR scans at Homestead Two. 600 00:25:05,250 --> 00:25:08,375 {\an1}That's where a lot of very weird {\an1}phenomena have been reported. 601 00:25:08,417 --> 00:25:10,667 And while we're doing that, 602 00:25:10,709 --> 00:25:12,625 the rest of the guys are going to run 603 00:25:12,667 --> 00:25:14,500 some scans up on top of the mesa. 604 00:25:14,542 --> 00:25:16,250 BRYANT: Erik loves this mesa. 605 00:25:16,291 --> 00:25:17,417 ERIK: I do, I guess. 606 00:25:17,458 --> 00:25:19,125 Once I get to the top. 607 00:25:22,750 --> 00:25:24,166 TRAVIS: Well, so, guys, 608 00:25:24,208 --> 00:25:26,000 what I think is, {\an1}if you can get right there, 609 00:25:26,041 --> 00:25:27,750 kind of hug the tree line and go due south 610 00:25:27,792 --> 00:25:30,417 toward that dead tree... 611 00:25:30,458 --> 00:25:32,875 I think we can go through over here. 612 00:25:35,625 --> 00:25:37,208 Hug this bush right here the best you can. 613 00:25:37,250 --> 00:25:40,166 The ground-penetrating radar device we're using 614 00:25:40,208 --> 00:25:42,500 {\an1}was more mobile, so we started {\an1}pushing it through the woods 615 00:25:42,542 --> 00:25:44,041 and around the homestead. 616 00:25:44,083 --> 00:25:47,458 Just kind of use the house as a guide for the line. 617 00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:51,041 And that allows us to do {\an1}a much deeper investigation. 618 00:25:51,083 --> 00:25:53,667 {\an1}That's probably far enough. 619 00:25:53,709 --> 00:25:55,709 {\an5}-Yeah. -Did you see anything on that run? 620 00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:57,291 ZACH: Uh, let me check. 621 00:25:57,333 --> 00:25:59,166 Oh, holy... Look at this. 622 00:25:59,208 --> 00:26:00,792 ZACH: Oh, wow. 623 00:26:00,834 --> 00:26:02,083 SEGURA: There's this big... 624 00:26:04,291 --> 00:26:05,583 Oh, wow. 625 00:26:05,625 --> 00:26:08,000 That's crazy. 626 00:26:10,875 --> 00:26:12,041 {\an8}TRAVIS: Did you see {\an8}anything on that run? 627 00:26:12,083 --> 00:26:13,750 {\an8}ZACH: {\an8}Uh, let me check. 628 00:26:13,792 --> 00:26:16,000 {\an1}-Oh, holy... Look at this. See? -Oh, wow. 629 00:26:16,041 --> 00:26:17,917 {\an8}TRAVIS: While conducting {\an8}a ground-penetrating 630 00:26:17,959 --> 00:26:19,917 {\an8}radar test here {\an8}at Homestead Two, 631 00:26:19,959 --> 00:26:23,250 {\an7}Jim, Zach and I have just found {\an7}more evidence of some kind 632 00:26:23,291 --> 00:26:26,917 {\an7}of large object or structure {\an7}buried several feet underground. 633 00:26:26,959 --> 00:26:29,542 {\an5}SEGALA: So, there's this big anomaly here. 634 00:26:29,583 --> 00:26:31,083 {\an8}-Oh, wow. {\an8}-That's maybe 635 00:26:31,125 --> 00:26:33,083 {\an8}-at five feet, four feet? {\an8}-Yeah, it's... 636 00:26:33,125 --> 00:26:34,709 {\an8}TRAVIS: So, this is {\an8}the structure, right? 637 00:26:34,750 --> 00:26:35,917 {\an1}But look there, right there. 638 00:26:35,959 --> 00:26:37,083 It's like a-an entrance 639 00:26:37,125 --> 00:26:39,458 {\an1}or a pipe or something going up. 640 00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:41,166 SEGALA: It's on the same line 641 00:26:41,208 --> 00:26:43,000 as the well. 642 00:26:43,041 --> 00:26:45,583 {\an5}TRAVIS: And who's to say it's really a well? 643 00:26:45,625 --> 00:26:47,917 Heck, it could be a tunnel entrance, for all we know. 644 00:26:47,959 --> 00:26:49,959 I'd like to know what's in this thing. 645 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,333 Don't lift it up. 646 00:26:51,375 --> 00:26:53,834 -Why not? -Because the incident 647 00:26:53,875 --> 00:26:56,959 {\an1}that happened with Brandon Fugal was right here. 648 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,291 There was this guy that came in with him. 649 00:26:59,333 --> 00:27:02,750 {\an1}He lifted this up, and that's when he went catatonic. 650 00:27:05,166 --> 00:27:06,500 {\an8}BRANDON: {\an8}Several years ago, 651 00:27:06,542 --> 00:27:09,458 {\an8}we were escorting {\an8}some visitors on the site, 652 00:27:09,500 --> 00:27:11,750 {\an8}and when we entered {\an8}the old homestead area, 653 00:27:11,792 --> 00:27:14,041 {\an7}we all piled out of the UTV 654 00:27:14,083 --> 00:27:17,959 {\an7}to circle around the front {\an7}of one of the old homesteads. 655 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,959 {\an1}And I looked around and found 656 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,166 that one of the visitors was absent. 657 00:27:24,208 --> 00:27:27,208 As I circled around {\an1}the back end of the homestead, 658 00:27:27,250 --> 00:27:29,917 I saw this person 659 00:27:29,959 --> 00:27:33,667 fully upright with his eyes closed. 660 00:27:33,709 --> 00:27:36,417 -Hey! -And as I yelled his name 661 00:27:36,458 --> 00:27:38,458 {\an1}to somehow get his attention 662 00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:41,208 and see what was happening, his eyes fluttered open. 663 00:27:41,250 --> 00:27:43,500 He says, "Well, that was strange." 664 00:27:43,542 --> 00:27:45,125 I said, "Well, what do you mean?" 665 00:27:45,166 --> 00:27:49,250 He says, "I was paralyzed and then went to sleep. 666 00:27:49,291 --> 00:27:52,250 How long have I been out?" 667 00:27:52,291 --> 00:27:54,041 And I said, "Well, it's-it's probably 668 00:27:54,083 --> 00:27:55,959 been about ten minutes." 669 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,000 He was shocked. 670 00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:08,500 -And he did what now, Jim? -He lifted it up. 671 00:28:08,542 --> 00:28:11,542 But I think, before you open that up 672 00:28:11,583 --> 00:28:15,291 or do anything like that, I would definitely... 673 00:28:15,333 --> 00:28:16,709 Or maybe not. 674 00:28:16,750 --> 00:28:18,750 TRAVIS: What the crap is that? 675 00:28:21,417 --> 00:28:23,166 {\an1}It's filled with something. 676 00:28:23,208 --> 00:28:25,542 {\an1}All right, well, look, if you {\an1}want to look down in there. 677 00:28:25,583 --> 00:28:27,250 It's just filled with crappy water. 678 00:28:27,291 --> 00:28:29,792 {\an1}I mean, muddy water or whatever. Maybe it's a septic tank. 679 00:28:29,834 --> 00:28:33,250 SEGALA: Seriously polluted. 680 00:28:33,291 --> 00:28:35,291 TRAVIS: Well, it looks pretty bad. 681 00:28:45,166 --> 00:28:47,125 It stinks, though. Ooh! 682 00:28:47,166 --> 00:28:49,500 {\an1}So, there's something in there. 683 00:28:53,417 --> 00:28:56,917 You know, I don't know {\an1}if I want to say it or not, 684 00:28:56,959 --> 00:28:58,750 but I-I feel like a, I don't know, 685 00:28:58,792 --> 00:29:01,083 I've got a little bit of a {\an1}headache or something happening. 686 00:29:01,125 --> 00:29:03,667 {\an8}So, why-why don't we {\an8}get out of here? 687 00:29:03,709 --> 00:29:05,041 {\an8}Maybe the smell, {\an8}maybe some mildew 688 00:29:05,083 --> 00:29:06,333 {\an8}or mold or something here. 689 00:29:06,375 --> 00:29:08,208 So, let's, uh, I say let's get back out 690 00:29:08,250 --> 00:29:09,917 to the road {\an1}where there's more air flow. 691 00:29:12,583 --> 00:29:16,166 {\an1}I started getting this headache and this nausea feeling. 692 00:29:16,208 --> 00:29:18,583 I wasn't sure what it was, but I realized, you know, 693 00:29:18,625 --> 00:29:20,375 I've got this dosimeter in my pocket. 694 00:29:20,417 --> 00:29:23,000 {\an1}All right, well, maybe we should 695 00:29:23,041 --> 00:29:25,166 check our dosimeters or whatever. 696 00:29:25,208 --> 00:29:26,542 Yeah. 697 00:29:28,208 --> 00:29:30,041 (beeping) 698 00:29:30,083 --> 00:29:32,041 TRAVIS: Holy... Mine's beeping. 699 00:29:32,083 --> 00:29:33,375 {\an1}Your max dose rate's about 120? 700 00:29:33,417 --> 00:29:34,792 Yeah, its 120-something. 701 00:29:34,834 --> 00:29:36,917 That's pretty high. That's pretty high. 702 00:29:36,959 --> 00:29:39,500 TRAVIS: This is really scary. 703 00:29:39,542 --> 00:29:41,375 My dosimeter device, which measures exposure 704 00:29:41,417 --> 00:29:44,917 to ionizing radiation, {\an1}is showing that I just got hit 705 00:29:44,959 --> 00:29:47,000 {\an1}with 120 millirads per second. 706 00:29:47,041 --> 00:29:48,583 That's like getting 20,000 707 00:29:48,625 --> 00:29:50,959 full-body X-ray scans at an airport, 708 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,583 which is five times more 709 00:29:52,625 --> 00:29:54,709 than the legal limit allows in a year. 710 00:29:54,750 --> 00:29:56,917 So, I just accumulated a semi-dangerous dose. 711 00:29:56,959 --> 00:29:59,583 So, we're reading {\an1}the exact same amount of rate, 712 00:29:59,625 --> 00:30:02,542 {\an1}but this thing accumulated more. 713 00:30:02,583 --> 00:30:04,709 Well, and I was the one that stood over 714 00:30:04,750 --> 00:30:07,291 {\an1}-that hole when we opened it up. -Yep. 715 00:30:07,333 --> 00:30:10,291 {\an5}TRAVIS: We were just exposed to ionizing radiation. 716 00:30:10,333 --> 00:30:12,000 -Wow! {\an1}-Now, I got to tell you that 717 00:30:12,041 --> 00:30:13,917 -it's not a lethal dose. -It's not a lethal dose. 718 00:30:13,959 --> 00:30:15,750 {\an1}But it's an accumulated dose that you're not gonna see 719 00:30:15,792 --> 00:30:17,500 {\an1}out in the middle of nowhere, guaranteed. 720 00:30:17,542 --> 00:30:19,250 {\an1}Yep. And, well, and it's enough that they're saying, 721 00:30:19,291 --> 00:30:20,875 "Hey, it's dangerous. Get out of that place 722 00:30:20,917 --> 00:30:22,458 {\an1}-and don't say in that place" -Yeah. 723 00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:26,792 {\an1}So we need to stop the GPR. Let's load the stuff up. 724 00:30:26,834 --> 00:30:28,125 -All right. -Cool. 725 00:30:30,750 --> 00:30:33,458 {\an5}TRAVIS: {\an1}What happened at Homestead Two really shook me up. 726 00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:36,458 And then, the next day, I noticed weird red marks 727 00:30:36,500 --> 00:30:38,083 on my hand and my head. 728 00:30:38,125 --> 00:30:40,709 I went to my doctor to get checked out, 729 00:30:40,750 --> 00:30:43,875 and he confirmed they were radiation burns. 730 00:30:43,917 --> 00:30:46,667 I'm okay now, {\an1}but I'm really anxious to get 731 00:30:46,709 --> 00:30:49,583 to the final results {\an1}of our GPR scans to find out 732 00:30:49,625 --> 00:30:52,667 if it's something {\an1}in the ground that caused this. 733 00:30:59,875 --> 00:31:03,208 {\an8}PHIL: Okay, we're here to, {\an8}uh, discuss the processing 734 00:31:03,250 --> 00:31:06,208 {\an8}of the GPR data that {\an7}we collected out in the field. 735 00:31:06,250 --> 00:31:08,333 {\an8}Uh, I took a look {\an8}at all the data, 736 00:31:08,375 --> 00:31:11,834 {\an7}and I'm really gonna concentrate {\an7}in and around Homestead Two. 737 00:31:11,875 --> 00:31:17,375 {\an7}So, that's what we're gonna be {\an7}looking at on the screen today. {\an7}- Okay. Well, let's see it. 738 00:31:17,417 --> 00:31:20,083 {\an1}All right, let's take a look at the data here. 739 00:31:20,125 --> 00:31:22,417 {\an1}See, here's where we started {\an1}again from west going east. 740 00:31:22,458 --> 00:31:24,458 -TRAVIS: Right. -It's just noisy data. 741 00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:28,166 And now were seeing {\an1}these features in more detail. 742 00:31:28,208 --> 00:31:30,625 -TRAVIS: Oh, wow! -ERIK: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 743 00:31:30,667 --> 00:31:33,291 {\an1}Basically, looks like para... upside down parabolas. 744 00:31:33,333 --> 00:31:34,875 Right, they're-they're hyperbolas. 745 00:31:34,917 --> 00:31:39,333 {\an1}Now, what creates the hyperbolas are objects. 746 00:31:39,375 --> 00:31:41,792 {\an1}A lot of things can cause those. 747 00:31:41,834 --> 00:31:45,375 Uh, boulders can cause those types of features. 748 00:31:45,417 --> 00:31:48,041 {\an8}Tunneling can cause {\an8}that type of feature. 749 00:31:48,083 --> 00:31:50,125 TRAVIS: Gosh, it goes all the way as far down 750 00:31:50,166 --> 00:31:51,375 -as 25, 30 feet. -Right. 751 00:31:51,417 --> 00:31:53,125 {\an1}Well, it's clearly an anomaly. 752 00:31:53,166 --> 00:31:54,792 Yes. 753 00:31:54,834 --> 00:31:56,625 I'll tell you what it looks like to me. 754 00:31:58,208 --> 00:31:59,667 Look at this. 755 00:31:59,709 --> 00:32:01,041 Here's the top point. 756 00:32:01,083 --> 00:32:02,208 Right there. Right? 757 00:32:02,250 --> 00:32:03,208 Here's another point. 758 00:32:03,250 --> 00:32:04,959 There's one here. 759 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,667 {\an1}And then you could say maybe {\an1}it kind of starts over here. 760 00:32:07,709 --> 00:32:09,667 And so there's your connecting the dots. 761 00:32:09,709 --> 00:32:11,542 Connect all these peaks, 762 00:32:11,583 --> 00:32:13,834 and it looks to me {\an1}like you got a football shape. 763 00:32:13,875 --> 00:32:15,375 Well, give me a pen, then. 764 00:32:15,417 --> 00:32:16,917 All right. Actually, tear me off 765 00:32:16,959 --> 00:32:18,667 about three more pieces of paper. 766 00:32:18,709 --> 00:32:21,750 So, there's the spot for the peak, 767 00:32:21,792 --> 00:32:25,166 probably here, {\an1}and down here on the bottom. 768 00:32:25,208 --> 00:32:27,959 {\an1}It's, like, here, here, here. 769 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,917 There's another one kind of down here, lower. 770 00:32:29,959 --> 00:32:31,917 So now let's lay it on the table, 771 00:32:31,959 --> 00:32:34,083 and we'll draw... {\an1}we're gonna connect the dots. 772 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,959 All right. So, guys, if we look, 773 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,583 {\an1}there's something that has... 774 00:32:41,625 --> 00:32:44,458 surface points. 775 00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:47,041 Something... 776 00:32:47,083 --> 00:32:48,834 along those lines. 777 00:32:49,875 --> 00:32:51,250 BRYANT: Wow. 778 00:32:51,291 --> 00:32:52,667 TRAVIS: I marked the high 779 00:32:52,709 --> 00:32:54,709 and the low points of the parabolas 780 00:32:54,750 --> 00:32:56,709 that we saw on the screen. 781 00:32:56,750 --> 00:32:58,959 And once I connected all the dots, 782 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,583 the size and shape of {\an1}the object we found underground 783 00:33:01,625 --> 00:33:04,333 became clear-- {\an1}it looked like a giant football 784 00:33:04,375 --> 00:33:06,041 or a saucer. 785 00:33:06,083 --> 00:33:08,959 -I like the shape of it. -BRYANT: And... 786 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,959 it's almost at the start of Homestead Two 787 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,709 {\an1}to the end of Homestead Two. 788 00:33:12,750 --> 00:33:15,542 This thing is... 789 00:33:15,583 --> 00:33:17,333 a thousand feet long. 790 00:33:20,834 --> 00:33:23,583 Wow. I wasn't expecting to see that today. 791 00:33:29,083 --> 00:33:32,291 {\an7}TRAVIS: What this looks like {\an8}is a two-story facility. 792 00:33:32,333 --> 00:33:34,542 This thing is... 793 00:33:34,583 --> 00:33:36,000 a thousand feet long. 794 00:33:36,041 --> 00:33:37,291 That's huge. 795 00:33:37,333 --> 00:33:38,750 THOMAS: That's significant. 796 00:33:38,792 --> 00:33:40,542 {\an8}TRAVIS: {\an7}We have a thousand-foot-long, 797 00:33:40,583 --> 00:33:42,375 {\an8}oval-shaped object 798 00:33:42,417 --> 00:33:44,875 {\an8}that appears to be buried {\an7}underground at Homestead Two. 799 00:33:44,917 --> 00:33:47,166 {\an7}Now, this is the same place 800 00:33:47,208 --> 00:33:48,875 {\an8}where a lot {\an8}of bizarre happenings 801 00:33:48,917 --> 00:33:51,792 {\an8}and even UFO sightings have {\an7}been reported over the years. 802 00:33:51,834 --> 00:33:54,125 {\an7}So the question obviously is: 803 00:33:54,166 --> 00:33:55,792 {\an8}Are they related? 804 00:33:55,834 --> 00:33:57,375 Right here... 805 00:33:57,417 --> 00:34:00,125 that's "X" marks the spot. 806 00:34:00,166 --> 00:34:02,250 {\an1}That's-that's, like, 15 feet {\an1}below the surface or something. 807 00:34:02,291 --> 00:34:04,875 {\an8}And we drill into that, 808 00:34:04,917 --> 00:34:08,875 {\an7}and we'll know, is it rock, {\an7}is it metal, is it... whatever. 809 00:34:08,917 --> 00:34:11,875 {\an8}And so we got to... {\an8}we got to dig there. 810 00:34:11,917 --> 00:34:13,834 {\an8}Or drill, at least, {\an8}take a core sample. 811 00:34:13,875 --> 00:34:16,333 {\an7}Well, you're gonna have to get {\an7}Brandon to sign off on that. 812 00:34:16,375 --> 00:34:19,333 {\an7}-Well, I-I understand that. {\an7}-I-I always get painted as... 813 00:34:19,375 --> 00:34:21,583 {\an8}the guy that's {\an8}the anti-digging guy, 814 00:34:21,625 --> 00:34:23,917 {\an8}and look, I'm interested {\an8}to know what's there, too, 815 00:34:23,959 --> 00:34:25,500 {\an8}but at the end of the day, 816 00:34:25,542 --> 00:34:27,709 {\an8}that was one of Brandon's {\an8}big mandates to me. 817 00:34:29,709 --> 00:34:32,208 {\an5}BRYANT: Looking at that interesting shape we found, 818 00:34:32,250 --> 00:34:34,208 the knee-jerk reaction is we need to dig 819 00:34:34,250 --> 00:34:35,709 and find out what that thing is. 820 00:34:35,750 --> 00:34:37,583 It could be amazing or whatever. 821 00:34:37,625 --> 00:34:40,000 My first reaction is, "Wait a minute." 822 00:34:40,041 --> 00:34:44,125 {\an1}We have radiation in the area, {\an1}and we don't know what this is, 823 00:34:44,166 --> 00:34:46,917 and you pile that on top {\an1}of the whole "don't dig" lore 824 00:34:46,959 --> 00:34:48,291 about this place. 825 00:34:48,333 --> 00:34:50,500 I mean, Thomas had a major injury 826 00:34:50,542 --> 00:34:52,792 that almost took his life. 827 00:34:52,834 --> 00:34:55,250 Travis was exposed to radiation. 828 00:34:55,291 --> 00:34:57,792 The last thing I'm gonna do is just say, "Hey, yeah, 829 00:34:57,834 --> 00:34:59,875 "let's head out there {\an1}and start digging up the road 830 00:34:59,917 --> 00:35:01,291 {\an1}and see what's down there." 831 00:35:01,333 --> 00:35:04,375 I'm extremely sensitive {\an1}to what's going on right now, 832 00:35:04,417 --> 00:35:06,792 {\an1}between what happened to you the other night 833 00:35:06,834 --> 00:35:08,333 {\an1}when we were camping again, 834 00:35:08,375 --> 00:35:10,333 what Travis experienced. 835 00:35:10,375 --> 00:35:13,959 {\an1}Certainly, I don't see the data the same way you do. 836 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,125 I'd like to see what your opinion is. 837 00:35:16,166 --> 00:35:17,959 {\an5}-I think there's... -You're the professional in this. 838 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,375 {\an1}-Right. I think, from what... {\an1}-I don't have an opinion, Jim? 839 00:35:20,417 --> 00:35:23,750 {\an8}-Is that what this is? {\an8}-PHIL: I think, 840 00:35:23,792 --> 00:35:26,583 {\an8}from what I see here, {\an7}I would absolutely see this 841 00:35:26,625 --> 00:35:29,333 {\an7}as being an anomalous area, {\an8}is what I would say. 842 00:35:29,375 --> 00:35:31,250 {\an7}Just being... When you say {\an7}"anomalous," different than 843 00:35:31,291 --> 00:35:33,250 {\an8}-the rest of the area. {\an8}-Different than the rest 844 00:35:33,291 --> 00:35:35,208 {\an8}of the area, {\an8}that we didn't see, or... 845 00:35:35,250 --> 00:35:37,750 {\an8}nine-tenths of the road {\an8}that we went down. 846 00:35:37,792 --> 00:35:40,250 Well, I think we take this to Brandon 847 00:35:40,291 --> 00:35:43,250 {\an1}and tell him the whole story, Dragon, and say... 848 00:35:43,291 --> 00:35:45,208 You guys better take it, 'cause apparently, 849 00:35:45,250 --> 00:35:47,709 because I'm not a PhD, {\an1}I don't have a (bleep) opinion 850 00:35:47,750 --> 00:35:48,959 at the table. 851 00:35:52,667 --> 00:35:54,417 {\an1}Look, I care about you guys. 852 00:35:54,458 --> 00:35:56,583 {\an1}You know, I care about you. 853 00:35:56,625 --> 00:35:58,709 {\an1}If... if I didn't like you, I would just say, 854 00:35:58,750 --> 00:36:00,709 "Fine, you know what, I'll be at the front gate. 855 00:36:00,750 --> 00:36:03,583 {\an1}You guys go dig. Just keep me {\an1}the hell away from this..." 856 00:36:03,625 --> 00:36:06,792 I'm sorry that I kind of {\an1}blew up there a little bit, 857 00:36:06,834 --> 00:36:08,792 but it's just because I'm sensitive, 858 00:36:08,834 --> 00:36:10,750 especially now... 859 00:36:10,792 --> 00:36:13,542 that all this stuff has started happening. 860 00:36:13,583 --> 00:36:16,542 And I'm sorry, {\an1}going back to your analogy, 861 00:36:16,583 --> 00:36:18,291 I don't want to poke a hornets' nest 862 00:36:18,333 --> 00:36:20,166 {\an1}that has radioactive hornets come flying out. 863 00:36:20,208 --> 00:36:22,834 {\an5}-I already been stung once by it, right? -Yeah, I know. 864 00:36:22,875 --> 00:36:26,166 {\an1}To that point, if we're going {\an1}down two feet and we're testing, 865 00:36:26,208 --> 00:36:28,959 {\an1}and two feet and we're testing, if that is the case, 866 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,000 {\an5}-those levels are gonna be going up, and we can stop. -Absolutely. 867 00:36:32,041 --> 00:36:34,625 -We'll see it every time. -And if Brandon 868 00:36:34,667 --> 00:36:38,291 {\an1}looks at the data and says, {\an1}"Okay, I will sign off on this," 869 00:36:38,333 --> 00:36:39,750 you're good with it, then, Bryant? 870 00:36:39,792 --> 00:36:41,417 {\an1}-Is that what you're saying? -He's-he's my boss. 871 00:36:41,458 --> 00:36:43,083 But I'm-I'm just trying to get a read 872 00:36:43,125 --> 00:36:44,709 {\an1}for where you are personally. 873 00:36:44,750 --> 00:36:47,667 If he signs off on it, {\an1}are you comfortable with it? 874 00:36:47,709 --> 00:36:49,291 {\an5}SEGALA: 'Cause you're ultimately responsible... 875 00:36:49,333 --> 00:36:51,333 Look, I... like I said, I just answer to him. 876 00:36:51,375 --> 00:36:53,917 {\an5}-No, but you're... -So, if that's what he wants to do, then... 877 00:36:53,959 --> 00:36:56,583 {\an5}BRYANT: You know, I had my points, {\an1}those guys had their points. 878 00:36:56,625 --> 00:36:58,333 {\an1}You know, we weren't totally in agreement, 879 00:36:58,375 --> 00:37:00,250 so it was time to get on the phone 880 00:37:00,291 --> 00:37:01,792 {\an1}and get Brandon up to speed 881 00:37:01,834 --> 00:37:04,041 with what we found {\an1}and get his take on things. 882 00:37:04,083 --> 00:37:06,875 {\an1}Zach, Phil, thank you so much for coming out. 883 00:37:06,917 --> 00:37:08,959 -These are fantastic data. -Thank y'all. 884 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,041 {\an5}-Thanks, guys. -Thank you. -Appreciate it. 885 00:37:11,083 --> 00:37:12,959 TRAVIS: {\an1}All right, let's call Brandon 886 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,583 and let Brandon make the decision. 887 00:37:20,041 --> 00:37:22,458 {\an8}(phone rings) 888 00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:24,834 {\an8}-Hey. {\an8}-BRYANT: Hey, Brandon. 889 00:37:24,875 --> 00:37:27,000 {\an8}It's, uh, {\an8}Bryant and Travis here. 890 00:37:27,041 --> 00:37:28,709 {\an8}Hey, guys. 891 00:37:28,750 --> 00:37:31,250 {\an8}What-what's happening {\an8}out at Skinwalker Ranch? 892 00:37:31,291 --> 00:37:34,000 {\an7}We've got interesting things, {\an8}and then we've got things 893 00:37:34,041 --> 00:37:36,792 {\an7}that... lend me to pause and... 894 00:37:36,834 --> 00:37:38,959 have me concerned. 895 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,709 {\an1}And I'll let Travis explain, you know, what we found 896 00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:43,542 with-with the folks doing 897 00:37:43,583 --> 00:37:46,583 {\an1}the GPR, or ground-penetrating radar work. 898 00:37:48,083 --> 00:37:50,041 Right in front of Homestead Two... 899 00:37:50,083 --> 00:37:51,542 - Yeah. 900 00:37:51,583 --> 00:37:54,834 {\an1}there is an anomaly underground that ranges from about... 901 00:37:54,875 --> 00:37:58,500 12 or 13 feet {\an1}all the way down to 35 feet, 902 00:37:58,542 --> 00:38:00,583 and it's kind of, 903 00:38:00,625 --> 00:38:03,291 uh... I would say maybe football-shaped, 904 00:38:03,333 --> 00:38:05,834 {\an1}about a thousand-foot long. 905 00:38:06,208 --> 00:38:07,208 - Wow. 906 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,417 {\an1}If I were gonna say that there's any place on the ranch 907 00:38:10,458 --> 00:38:12,208 where "X" marks the spot, it's right there 908 00:38:12,250 --> 00:38:14,792 in the middle of the road {\an1}right in front of Homestead Two. 909 00:38:14,834 --> 00:38:20,500 {\an5}- Okay. This is something {\an5}that I did not expect. - That-that leads into the not so good news. 910 00:38:20,542 --> 00:38:23,458 Travis and Dr. Segala 911 00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:26,750 were exposed to a dose 912 00:38:26,792 --> 00:38:29,875 of toxic radiation. 913 00:38:29,917 --> 00:38:31,375 - What? - Yeah. 914 00:38:31,417 --> 00:38:33,667 {\an1}Well, I mean, I'm-I'm okay, uh, 915 00:38:33,709 --> 00:38:36,041 {\an1}and I've had my doctors talk {\an1}to me about it and everything. 916 00:38:36,083 --> 00:38:38,083 There's not-nothing to worry about. 917 00:38:38,125 --> 00:38:41,792 {\an4}- Yeah. I don't know if you guys {\an1}can hear yourselves, right now? (Travis chuckles) 918 00:38:41,834 --> 00:38:44,333 {\an5}- You just told me... {\an5}- Yeah. It's crazy. -...that the ground- penetrating radar study... 919 00:38:44,375 --> 00:38:48,083 ...located a football -shaped object. 920 00:38:48,125 --> 00:38:51,500 In tandem with that, we have Travis out there... 921 00:38:51,542 --> 00:38:54,291 ...getting hit with some type of radiation. 922 00:38:54,333 --> 00:38:57,166 It sounds serious as hell to me. 923 00:38:57,208 --> 00:38:59,542 {\an1}Look, this is your property, 924 00:38:59,583 --> 00:39:01,625 and, you know, I'm gonna defer to you, 925 00:39:01,667 --> 00:39:03,333 because you're the boss. 926 00:39:03,375 --> 00:39:06,750 So, what-what... How do you feel about it? 927 00:39:07,458 --> 00:39:10,458 - There is no way that we proceed with any... 928 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,125 ...major activity on that ranch... 929 00:39:13,166 --> 00:39:15,417 ...without making sure that we properly assess... 930 00:39:15,792 --> 00:39:17,625 {\an1}...the risks associated with it. 931 00:39:18,625 --> 00:39:22,500 {\an1}Yeah, I think we don't have to {\an1}dig in a major excavation way. 932 00:39:22,542 --> 00:39:25,291 What we do is take, like, auger core samples. 933 00:39:25,333 --> 00:39:28,291 {\an1}And so, you know, if something {\an1}is a few inches in diameter, 934 00:39:28,333 --> 00:39:31,333 we drill down until we get to that first layer 935 00:39:31,375 --> 00:39:33,166 of what the boundary of this thing is... 936 00:39:33,208 --> 00:39:34,417 - Yeah. 937 00:39:34,917 --> 00:39:36,500 -...and we'll do, uh, safety measurements 938 00:39:36,542 --> 00:39:39,000 every couple of feet to make sure it's not... 939 00:39:39,041 --> 00:39:43,083 {\an1}pulling back a toxic chemical or {\an1}a... or something radioactive. 940 00:39:43,125 --> 00:39:45,291 - I appreciate that. I think, uh... 941 00:39:45,333 --> 00:39:46,834 ...if that's the case... 942 00:39:47,125 --> 00:39:48,250 ...I would... 943 00:39:48,792 --> 00:39:50,500 ...you know, with great caution... 944 00:39:50,917 --> 00:39:52,500 ...move swiftly to find out... 945 00:39:52,542 --> 00:39:53,959 ...what we're dealing with here. 946 00:39:54,917 --> 00:39:56,667 And I'm sorry, Dragon. But I feel like... 947 00:39:56,709 --> 00:39:58,583 ...I'm gonna put you in the awkward position... 948 00:39:58,625 --> 00:40:01,333 ...of making sure that proper precautions... 949 00:40:01,625 --> 00:40:04,083 ...and measures are taken to protect those... 950 00:40:04,125 --> 00:40:05,792 ...that are going to be involved with this effort. 951 00:40:05,834 --> 00:40:07,750 Let's make sure that we avoid... 952 00:40:07,792 --> 00:40:09,083 ...at all costs... 953 00:40:09,125 --> 00:40:10,625 ...any further harm. 954 00:40:10,667 --> 00:40:11,792 I agree with that. 955 00:40:11,834 --> 00:40:13,500 - I don't think we have any choice... 956 00:40:13,542 --> 00:40:15,083 ...but to move urgently and find out... 957 00:40:15,125 --> 00:40:17,083 ...what is down there. 958 00:40:17,125 --> 00:40:18,250 This could change the whole... 959 00:40:18,291 --> 00:40:20,083 ...trajectory of this investigation. 960 00:40:20,583 --> 00:40:22,917 Or it could halt it in its tracks, Brandon. 961 00:40:24,750 --> 00:40:27,625 - Well, let's proceed forward cautiously... 962 00:40:27,667 --> 00:40:29,125 {\an1}...but expeditiously to see... 963 00:40:29,625 --> 00:40:31,083 {\an1}...what really lies beneath... 964 00:40:31,125 --> 00:40:32,250 ...and keep me posted. 965 00:40:33,208 --> 00:40:34,959 {\an5}- All right. {\an5}Thanks again for the time. -We'll talk to you soon. -All right. 966 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,208 - See you later, Brandon. - BRANDON: Take care. 967 00:40:39,333 --> 00:40:42,041 {\an1}BRANDON: We're always concerned {\an1}about disturbing the earth, 968 00:40:42,083 --> 00:40:43,542 because we've seen 969 00:40:43,583 --> 00:40:46,458 {\an8}in past history {\an8}that bad things happen. 970 00:40:48,375 --> 00:40:50,458 {\an5}ERIK: I do feel the weight of responsibility. 971 00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:54,750 {\an1}I wonder whether I have covered all the appropriate bases 972 00:40:54,792 --> 00:40:59,041 {\an8}prior to doing {\an7}this unprecedented exploration {\an8}on the property. 973 00:40:59,083 --> 00:41:01,250 ♪ 974 00:41:01,291 --> 00:41:03,083 BRYANT: I'm as curious as anybody 975 00:41:03,125 --> 00:41:05,083 to find out {\an1}what the heck that big thing 976 00:41:05,125 --> 00:41:07,083 in the ground by Homestead Two is, 977 00:41:07,125 --> 00:41:09,875 {\an8}but it really makes me {\an8}take a step back, 978 00:41:09,917 --> 00:41:12,166 {\an7}because I don't want anybody {\an8}to get hurt, 979 00:41:12,208 --> 00:41:14,041 {\an8}especially the people {\an8}I care about. 980 00:41:15,834 --> 00:41:18,083 {\an8}TRAVIS: {\an7}Ground-penetrating radar said 981 00:41:18,125 --> 00:41:20,166 {\an7}there's something here under {\an8}the road that's anomalous, 982 00:41:20,208 --> 00:41:22,333 {\an8}and the only way to get {\an8}down there and look at it 983 00:41:22,375 --> 00:41:23,709 {\an8}is to dig a hole. 984 00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:26,500 {\an8}So that's exactly {\an8}what we're gonna do. 985 00:41:30,959 --> 00:41:33,000 -SEGALA: Let's get to it. -TRAVIS: GPR has given us 986 00:41:33,041 --> 00:41:34,500 an "'X' marks the spot." 987 00:41:34,542 --> 00:41:35,667 {\an5}SEGALA: They're hitting something hard now. 988 00:41:35,709 --> 00:41:37,041 Man, they're on something. 989 00:41:37,083 --> 00:41:38,959 {\an1}There is an unnatural structure beneath this property. 990 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,792 {\an1}-That whole thing's shaking. -BRYANT: Look at that. 991 00:41:40,834 --> 00:41:42,625 {\an5}-What is that? -SEGALA: Why is that rocking like that? 992 00:41:42,667 --> 00:41:43,959 -TRAVIS: Oh! -TOM: There we go. 993 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,500 THOMAS: I'm hoping that bringing in 994 00:41:45,542 --> 00:41:47,542 {\an1}an exotic animal on the ranch will stimulate 995 00:41:47,583 --> 00:41:49,709 whatever is mutilating these cattle. 996 00:41:49,750 --> 00:41:52,125 {\an5}-(animal shrieking) -TOM: The alpacas have been torn apart. 997 00:41:52,166 --> 00:41:55,250 {\an5}-What is that? -If that's a dog, it's a big dog. 998 00:41:55,291 --> 00:41:57,250 {\an1}(animals continue shrieking) 81323

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