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Thank you.
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Hello. Hello.
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My name is Marty DeBerge.
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That's the guy. I'm a filmmaker.
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I make a lot of commercials.
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Yeah, you make a lot of shit, don't you?
Let him have his say. Let him have his
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say. He doesn't look Italian, does he?
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I don't think DeBerge is his real name.
I think he changed his name, you know. I
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think so.
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Yeah, his real name was DeBergamo.
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No. DeBergewitz.
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DeBergewitz. DeBergewitz. I think he's
one of those... Yeah, he
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is one of those.
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Check it out, the Bergerwitz.
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I don't know why we drafted him in the
first place. Because he
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loved us. Look at this. It's a hat.
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You've actually been on board the Oral
Sea, haven't you? The Oral Sea. I
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remember him walking in with that hat,
and I thought he was actually in the
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Navy. Maybe that's why we thought... He
doesn't look naval.
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He looks admiral -ish.
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We hate that when you call us tap. Tap.
Yeah.
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Final tap. Anything. It could be, you
know, Denver tap.
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Or beer. Beer tap. Beer tap. Right.
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I don't even think... Look at the
guitar.
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Look at the bass.
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It's a Fender bass. You don't play a
Fender bass. I don't play a Fender bass.
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And you know what? That beard, that's
not a real beard either.
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Really? You can see the glue. You can
see the glue on job. That's right.
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Yeah. But I got more. He got more. Yeah.
He got more out of us than he ever
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should have gotten. Too much, man.
Enough of my yakking. Yeah, plenty. What
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you say?
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Let's boogie.
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That's the smartest thing you've said
all night.
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These people are long since out of
business, aren't they?
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I remember the first time I saw this
title come up, I thought, well, this is
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We've made it. I like her. Yeah, she's
sweet. I like him. He's sweet.
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She's sweet.
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Yeah. I remember her very well. Look how
young we are.
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Yeah. Well, we were young then as well,
you know. That's what I'm saying. Oh.
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Oh, isn't it? Oh, there he is. What was
his name?
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The skull?
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Yeah. I don't remember.
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I know.
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Isn't that amazing?
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Cool. We travelled with him for 20 -odd
years, don't remember his name. Scully.
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No,
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we gave her. There was a contest, wasn't
there, on Radio 1? That's Jean. That's
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Jean Cromey. You know what we could do?
We could take each leg and put it behind
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her head. Did you know that? Yeah, or
yours.
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Well, she doesn't need to speak as her
sign language is so good, too. Here we
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go.
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Let's listen to the warmth.
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Now it's going to drive me crazy. I
don't remember the name. I remember this
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mix. I wasn't happy with this mix at
all.
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They loved us.
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Yeah.
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See, the old jumping and pumping their
fists was a good sign, innit?
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That's me. It's the best.
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Best sign.
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David St. Habins. Yeah.
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That's me.
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That's me. Yeah.
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That's the back of me.
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And there's the front. There's the front
of me. Yeah, you get both. I got both,
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yeah. Well, that's what's good about
these discs.
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You see the front and the back. Well,
you can do that in the film as well.
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Oh, poor Viv.
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Poor Viv.
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Poor Viv.
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He never could get the singing down.
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No.
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He couldn't.
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Even when he was really playing it, it
didn't look like he was playing it. It
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looked like it was playing.
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Same with his talking, too. It never
looked like he was really moving his
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He never looked like he was really
thinking, either.
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Well, he never was.
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Was he?
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See, that's how you know it's the end of
the song, when it goes ba -boom. Ba
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-boom. Yep.
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That's our trademark.
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Bubble.
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Oh, yeah.
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Showing a bit of knee, Nigel.
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What did you do to finally unload that
place, Nig? Well, I had to. It was one
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those... I think I sold it for about $10
,000.
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Really? The whole castle, yeah.
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Oh, that's killing. And they chopped it
up and they used the stones to use a
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little roadway cul -de -sac out in
Thousand Oaks, someone told me. A
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-de -sac?
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No, it's...
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named after uh the marquis did that you
know when he was asking these questions
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do you remember we didn't know what he
was going to say and he had notes and he
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had notes it's cheating that should have
tipped us off yeah it should have yeah
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he had an agenda and it was like those
oh look at that oh look at that bless
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heart he really he could really play
those yeah he could uh play those skins
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yeah and the drums i like you in that
page boy
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I know, yeah. My hair was really
different then. It was more strawberry
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Look at Ronnie. Look at Ronnie on the
left. That is Ronnie Pudding on the
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That is so Ronnie.
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No, he was good.
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No, he was good. He's no Derek Smalls.
He's no Derek Smalls. He was quite a
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singer, though.
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But he could wear a thin tie with the
back to them. He also co -wrote this.
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Ah, look at Stumpy.
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Stumpy.
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John Stumpy Pete. You see, I think he
knows the answers to these questions,
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I think so. Because he has this look in
his eye. Well, he's got it written down.
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That's what I mean, yeah.
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He's cheating.
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See, I think he's stringing us along is
what's happening.
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I wonder what ever happened to those
joggers of mine.
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Well, don't you remember what happened?
We took them to the cleaners, and they
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said we can't give them back to you.
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Oh, yeah.
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It was because there was a stain in the
shape of G's that's on them.
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Stumpy Joe.
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Eric Stumpy Joe Child.
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And what happened to Stumpy Joe?
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This is the sad part when we're talking
about all the deaths of all the drummers
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here. I think Marty was trying to lead
us in this direction, actually.
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I know. I mean, he was trying to pull
this sort of black cloth over
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It was like, where's the joy?
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Where's the joy? I want to know.
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As if this was somehow our fault. Yeah.
That's what I thought he was getting at.
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You know, it's like those nature shows
that you see where they set this trap
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a tiger. Or a mongoose. He was setting a
trap, wasn't he?
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And we were his mongoose, weren't we? Or
tiger.
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Yeah. Oh, there's Ian. Oh, bloody,
bloody hell, Ian.
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God, it's almost amazing to see his
hands in his own pockets for a change.
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You know, it's interesting. We should
have been tipped off that they made us
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to go to this party.
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I know.
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Yeah. It was our party.
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And not just for the parking. I remember
walking in, and he says, no, no, no,
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that's $5.
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I said, what?
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Plus a food ticket. Yeah.
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And Ian makes like, he's like, I never
ate. No, I never had one bloody bit of
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food at this party. Ian pays for the
whole band. He says, like, $25.
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Yeah, right. It's like a big deal, you
know.
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You know, if she hadn't been a cheat, a
liar, and a bitch, she would have been a
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rather nice woman.
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Yeah, it's true. It's true. She dressed
well. That's what I liked about her. I
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liked the swept back hair.
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She had it. in for you, Nige, though. I
mean, she was always on your case. Oh,
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this bloke.
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He's dead.
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No, he's not.
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No,
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he's not. No, I don't think. I think
he's like semi -retired. Yeah, semi
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-retired in a hole.
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Someone else's hole.
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He barely knew he was there at the time.
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Oh, what is that?
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I've forgotten about those white -faced
people.
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I forgot the clowns were there, you
know. Yeah. Why would they have clowns
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serving the food?
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Clowns make you sick.
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Oh, you know what? She started her own
magazine. It was like a sort of one of
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those New York magazines that she
started.
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Forget her name. She did that. It was a
model aircraft magazine. That's it,
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yeah. Yeah.
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Flying pretend.
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Fruitful, yeah.
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You know, I don't
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think that he knew what he was saying. I
don't think he knew where he was. I
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don't think so. I believed him at the
time. That's the sad part.
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Oh, this little jerk.
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You know, he was always in our faces,
you know. It was that one night we got
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to loosen up, he was actually sort of
fun.
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Yeah, but he was like... You know what I
think was going on, truly?
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I think he was hired as a private
detective.
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No. To look at us and make notes.
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But why? For whom?
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Yeah, for Marty.
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Because, look, he looks like one of
those CIA -type guys, doesn't he? Well,
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dresses like one, doesn't he? Yeah. With
the cap.
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Fucking limey. That's nice language.
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He didn't learn that in limo school.
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What if we talk about him like that?
Yeah. Well, let's talk about him.
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limo. Fucking limo driver. No, he's not
a limo. No, he's not. That's what he
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said about us. Fucking limo driver.
Limo.
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Limo. Limo. Fucking limo.
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Frank,
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Frank. Frank's dead.
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I never really believed in it, Ian, did
you?
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I did at first, I have to admit.
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Well, it's because you two played
cricket together. That's different. You
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you had a whole other sporting thing
going on. Yeah, I know, but... You were
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lads together. No, I never showered with
him, no.
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But you were lads together. I never got
on that well with him.
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But he could lie with a straight face
better than anyone I'd ever known.
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He could even lie with a grin on his
face. Yeah, he could actually, yeah.
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But it's a passing thing.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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How long are limos going to be around,
mate? Well, they're still around, to be
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fair. This is a fan.
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Mm -hmm.
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Well, fad this. Still a great number.
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Yeah.
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Strength. Just projecting strength.
That's really what it's all about.
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Well, someone's got to project it.
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That was a great venue.
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I always like playing Fidelity Hall. I'd
like to find this instrument. I don't
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know where it is. You don't know where
it is? I know where it is. It's on eBay.
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It's not on eBay. I've looked.
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Believe me, I've looked.
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You know, it's amazing. Oh! We wrote
these lyrics. Hello!
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We wrote these lyrics in 20 minutes.
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You know? Yeah. It's amazing that
they've lasted this long.
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Well, they've lasted 20 minutes.
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No, he means very slowly. Slowly, yeah.
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Three and a half if you do it at speed.
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Proper speed.
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You know, I think it was Jerome Kern
said if it takes more than 20 minutes to
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write a song, then you've just basically
jerked off, I think, right?
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That sounds like Jerome.
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That's a true Kernism.
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In fact, it was referred to as kerning
off in some corners.
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Or in some kerners.
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Close,
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close, close. Yeah, keep dreaming that.
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Not exactly a... Paderewski?
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Yeah. Was that what you were thinking?
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I wasn't, no, but it was. I just came to
mind. I don't even know who Paderewski
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is.
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You see, all this concert stuff, this
shows what Marty de Burgi really wanted
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do. He really wanted to be the great
concert filmmaker. He wanted to be the
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sixth tap.
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Yeah, it's true. Do you remember when we
were playing somewhere in Vermont or
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someplace that he said, can I join you
on stage? Oh, yeah.
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I'm going to play saxophone.
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Oh, God.
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Saxophone. Oh, my God, it sounded like
he was tuning a bobcat.
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God. Oh, look at this. Oh, hello.
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In nature, we call that offering from
the rear.
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No, this is presenting.
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Presenting, that's it. Presenting.
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That's what you do.
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Good album.
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Good album. Classic.
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You can't get it now.
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No. On eBay again.
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I don't think so, no. Really? No.
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Never been on ED.
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I'm glad you stopped smoking that pipe,
I have to say. Really? Yeah. I never
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really smoked it. I mean, I just used it
as an affectation more than anything
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else. Yeah, I'm glad, too. The lip
cancer. Rock and Roll Creation, also an
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underlooked concept album. Yes,
underbought, too.
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And under -recorded, really, to be
honest.
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When we were doing that record, Rock and
Roll Creation, do you remember the
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engineer said, we don't need all 16
tracks?
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I know. He told all four of them to
another band. Yeah, he said, how about
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That's right. And we said, but what
about if we want extra drums? And he
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you won't need them. You won't need
them. And that's before we ever heard
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songs. I know, that's right.
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Oh, God, I hate these.
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This was such a pain in the arse. You
know, having to suck up to all these
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morons.
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Not these morons, they were actually
sort of cute, but... There's no way to
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promote something that doesn't exist. Is
he in line to us again?
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Look at that, look at that.
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Even if you look in his eyes, you can't
tell that he's lying. Well, you never
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know which eye to look into, do you? No,
that's true.
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I always looked in the right. Yeah, me
too. That was just an adjustment I made.
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It's not a big college town. That turned
out to be a lie.
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It was a ball -faced lie.
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I stole one of those paintings, you
know, from that tweet.
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Look at this. No tie. Just don't bother.
No tie.
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Yeah. Nothing special going on here. No,
it looks like a mafia greeting.
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Yeah.
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What was your deal with Gumby? Yeah.
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Well, to me, Gumby was... Were you being
paid off to wear Gumby? I wish.
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I wish. No, Gumby really represented, to
me, every man.
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You know, he's perfect.
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Well, he's clay, isn't he?
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Well, he's not really. He's clay -ish,
you know. You need to be clay -ish to
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have that kind of flexibility.
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Yeah, I guess you do.
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Now, they're talking about the album
here. This is where the decision was
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Yeah, right behind our back. I know,
behind our back and yet on our film.
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and actually in front of my face. I saw
them talking.
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She had great taste in earrings, didn't
she?
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Oh, every time you see it, he's got
great earrings.
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I never saw her out of control, not for
two seconds.
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She was always, she had a stranglehold.
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On what? I don't know.
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1982,
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that was years ago.
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That sounds like a blast from the past.
I think that's a typo, though, when he
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said that. Really? Yeah.
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God forbid.
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Oh, look at those eyes.
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You see, these two together, that's a
perfect match, isn't it? Yeah.
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Crooked and crookeder. Yeah. Excuse me,
the phone's ringing. Ian, we'll talk
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about this after.
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Hello?
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Oh, hi, Dennis.
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I've seen none of this.
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I don't recall anything.
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You walked out. I remember the first
time. You were in such a rage.
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That asshole.
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He's dead. He's dead.
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Yeah.
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Hello? Sir Dennis?
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And look at her smoking.
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Well, you were smoking.
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Oh. You've got a belly on you.
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Yeah. Thank you. Well, both of us,
really. Yeah.
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But it's really not that offensive for
Dennett. Come on.
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I remember this.
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Yeah, I remember this.
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Oh, God. I remember seeing this. I
remember that painting. You see that
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painting? I tried to jump through that
later in the evening.
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Well, it's a trompe d 'oeil.
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Yeah. You tried to trump it. Yeah.
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Well, so what?
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What's wrong with being sexy? She's had
a nose job, hasn't she?
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Oh, I don't know. Oh, she's had so much
work done. Oh, I don't know. Look at
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that. She was not born with that. No,
she wasn't born with those ears, either.
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No, she was not. She wasn't born with
the earrings. The rumour was that she
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switched her left and right ear at
birth.
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Really? Yeah.
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If a company is behind an album, it can
shove it right down their throats. He's
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so wrong. He's making a big show of
being drawn left, but he's not really
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He doesn't feel it in his heart. He does
not.
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He's doing this for our benefit. He's
putting on a show for us.
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Yeah.
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And then Marty just has the tail end of
it. Yeah, just to show the boo -boo on
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your lid.
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That's all he's doing. And that's
really,
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that's provoking.
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You know, I mean, that's very provoking.
It's inflammatory, literally.
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Probably work something out. I'll talk
to Dennis and maybe we can come up with
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compromise and a new design concept that
we can all live with.
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You guys were schoolmates?
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Where's the nostalgia?
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This is nice.
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This is where Marty was kissing up to
you. Oh, he was constantly kissing up.
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was just blatantly.
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As if he's not going to really end up
slagging you in the end. Yeah. Oh, look
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this. Yeah.
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Look at this. Look at this. Ah, look.
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Looks like Hayley Joel Osment, doesn't
it? Yeah.
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That was us.
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Yeah.
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God, your eyes were far apart.
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Thank you. Oh, that's me.
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Can you remember a little bit of that?
See the Filipino guy in the background?
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He's dead.
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No, he's not. Yes, he is.
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How can you know that?
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That's that famous runner, Olympic
runner.
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Is it really?
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Yeah. Coleslaw?
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You know, they were recording this, and
I think he had an intention of releasing
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it on his own.
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A monologue.
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Releasing it a cappella. Yeah.
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It's still a good song. It's still a
good song, yeah. What sort of
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were you using in this period?
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Because your hair looks, I mean, if I
may say it. It was a two -in -one.
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It was a two -in -one. Yeah, everything
for you was two -in -one, isn't it?
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This is where you were stealing all the
shampoos from the hotel room. Yeah, of
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course. But it's very nice. I mean, your
hair looks quite healthy. It made my
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nose itch, though.
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Well, Marty's beard is itching,
obviously.
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Fake beard. Fake beard. The glue is
itching, really. I know it's fake. You
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see the little bits of white glue on it.
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Really? Yeah.
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Well, it's a sexual thing, really. Aside
from the identifying that the boys
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do... Did you get paid to wear Norman's
T -shirt? Oh, yeah, sure.
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You got paid in hardware, didn't you?
Yeah.
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I should have made that deal. He gave me
50 picks and a set of strings.
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I made a deal with the saltines.
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I mean, I didn't think about going for
musical instruments. I mentioned some
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brand of saltine. The one without the
salt?
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Yeah. Oh, I remember this place. Oh,
Vandermint.
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You know, that is a nice venue.
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Oh, no, it wasn't. No, I remember this
dressing room. It was grim.
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It was big, though. Too many mirrors,
actually. It looks like a...
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Bob Posse wake or something.
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Looks like House of Mirrors is what it
looks like.
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Oh. See, now he's making you look bad.
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Yeah, because you look like a prima
donna.
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You look like a diva. He's making you...
It's Nigel the diva. It's his agenda
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here. Right, yeah.
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And you're not really a diva. People's
total manipulation is what he is. That's
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true.
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He's trying to confuse me and it worked.
Well, he's only confusing Ian in this
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shot, but look. You don't understand
how... You could fault this, though.
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Well, no, then it's half the size. No,
not the bread.
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It's the fault of me. Yeah, but then it
breaks apart like this. No, no, no, you
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put it on the bread like this. It'd make
you look like Prima Donna. Yeah, I
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know.
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And you would get the regular Donna.
Yeah.
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And then it's this.
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And I don't want this. I want large
bread so that I can put this.
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Right. See, I don't think you're being
unreasonable. And I don't know why he's
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doing a close -up.
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Are you wearing makeup on your hands?
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I think it's all part of it. I always
wear makeup on my hands. They look
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Yeah, thank you. They really look young.
It's all part of the Hatchet job he was
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doing, though, really. And look.
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Yeah. But your hands look so young.
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Well, I used a cream at that point. It
was a kind of an oily cream. An
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emollient. An emollient, yeah.
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But this shows that you're going to suck
it up and you're going to go ahead and
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you're going to do the shot. It shows
that I care and I'm a professional.
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That's right.
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But he twisted it once again. I know.
Yeah.
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For him, that's just a punchline. Yeah.
I rise above it. I'm a professional.
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Yeah.
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Tee hee. Tee bloody hee. Yeah.
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Ah, hell ho. We join the song in
progress.
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Yeah.
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We should have started on stage with it
at this point. In progress, yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Sometimes we would stop it in progress.
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Did Viv ever know that his mic was never
on? No. That he was just singing to no
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one? No, he didn't know. No.
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Well, any question you ask starts with,
did Viv ever know?
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It's no.
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It's no. The answer is no. Yeah.
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Now, see, a lot of people, I remember
people laughing doing this, and my back
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had gone out, that vertebrae had just...
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That's the danger of great stagecraft,
is people always think that something
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happened to you as part of the show. And
the fact that I was semi -paralyzed was
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not a joke to me at the time.
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And, you know, instead of sending Moak
out there, they should have sent out
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sort of emergency medical technician.
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Yeah, a doctor.
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Yeah.
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Now I was feeling better.
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I just sort of clicked back in. I
remember her.
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I remember him. I remember that. I
remember him. I remember those.
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Classic. Just classic.
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See, the kids today don't make music
like that. No. The old people don't make
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music like that. Do you actually play
all these?
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See, he's having you on. He's taking a
piss.
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Now, do you still own most of these?
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00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,720
Well, I had to sell some of them off,
and I gave some away to charity.
444
00:22:16,940 --> 00:22:21,620
And I kept some. And you gave one to
Eric Clapton, and he sent it back.
445
00:22:21,900 --> 00:22:26,740
Why was that? Yes, he did. Well, he
said, this isn't what I was expecting,
446
00:22:26,740 --> 00:22:27,740
what the note said.
447
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,800
That's nice of him to write a note.
448
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,340
Sincerely, Eric.
449
00:22:31,700 --> 00:22:34,660
Well, you saved that note. Was this
around the time of his trouble?
450
00:22:35,130 --> 00:22:37,730
No, it was just doing something for the
Troubles in Ireland.
451
00:22:38,370 --> 00:22:42,170
But he's taking a piss right here. Yeah,
he is. He's totally taking a piss.
452
00:22:42,170 --> 00:22:45,470
Well, we're both pissing on each other,
I think. Well, you were always taking a
453
00:22:45,470 --> 00:22:48,790
piss, but he's taking a piss. Oh, that's
that three -pick -up one, the Black
454
00:22:48,790 --> 00:22:52,670
Beauty. You know, they've really come a
long way with these radio mics now. They
455
00:22:52,670 --> 00:22:54,730
very rarely get any interference.
456
00:22:55,870 --> 00:22:56,870
Yeah.
457
00:22:57,130 --> 00:22:58,870
See the way he holds his cigarette?
458
00:22:59,150 --> 00:23:02,650
Even that, he's giving me the finger,
look at that. That's true. He holds it
459
00:23:02,650 --> 00:23:04,430
like a finger.
460
00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:13,910
He's taking a piece now. He's making as
if to touch it just to make you nervous.
461
00:23:14,190 --> 00:23:16,110
He's winding you up. He's taking a
piece.
462
00:23:18,890 --> 00:23:22,170
You see that thing he's wearing around
his neck? Yeah, what was that? That big
463
00:23:22,170 --> 00:23:23,430
microphone. What is that?
464
00:23:24,050 --> 00:23:25,050
It's a microphone.
465
00:23:25,950 --> 00:23:27,910
He's getting secret stuff on it.
466
00:23:28,410 --> 00:23:30,150
What kind of secret stuff? Like what
you're thinking.
467
00:23:30,950 --> 00:23:31,950
Yeah.
468
00:23:33,020 --> 00:23:36,080
Yeah, this has been... We should have
packed it then. We should have, because
469
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,360
everyone... Everyone's dollars.
Everyone's dollars.
470
00:23:38,900 --> 00:23:43,140
Jeez. We would have been... I wish that
they would all just pay us, you know, a
471
00:23:43,140 --> 00:23:44,079
little bit.
472
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,039
To preview.
473
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:50,440
Yeah, to preview. If we had two and six
for every time we got fucked over...
474
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,020
Yeah. We'd have... Four and twelve.
Yeah. Exactly.
475
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,940
What we do is if we need that extra...
476
00:23:57,310 --> 00:23:58,310
Push over the cliff.
477
00:23:58,390 --> 00:23:59,229
You know what we do?
478
00:23:59,230 --> 00:24:00,230
Put it up to 11.
479
00:24:00,450 --> 00:24:01,630
See the microphone he had there?
480
00:24:01,870 --> 00:24:06,430
Stupid question. Make 10 louder and make
10 be the top number and make that a
481
00:24:06,430 --> 00:24:08,710
little louder. Yeah, he was busting my
balls. He was.
482
00:24:09,090 --> 00:24:10,110
That's all he's doing.
483
00:24:10,350 --> 00:24:11,350
These go to 11.
484
00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:12,750
You see?
485
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,080
And he nods as if he understands.
486
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,420
You know, do you remember this guy? I
do. Oh, he was strange.
487
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:18,640
He kept calling up my room.
488
00:24:18,820 --> 00:24:22,800
Yeah, well, calling. He came to my room.
Four in the morning, there's a knock on
489
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,360
the door. It sounded like a little cat
scratching.
490
00:24:24,740 --> 00:24:28,160
And I opened the door, and he's standing
there, and he's wearing those Japanese
491
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,340
slippers, and a mumu.
492
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,460
And he has those slippers that are on,
like, a little platform. Platform ones,
493
00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:34,399
with the white socks.
494
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,860
And he opens the door, and he says, Oh,
I didn't realize this was... Yeah,
495
00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:38,980
right, didn't realize.
496
00:24:39,770 --> 00:24:41,230
I shut the door in his face.
497
00:24:41,730 --> 00:24:46,130
Hey, hey, listen to me. We want these
tweets. Now, here's Ian, like, playing.
498
00:24:46,390 --> 00:24:47,730
Playing. Tending to be strong.
499
00:24:48,010 --> 00:24:50,570
Oh, I'm so strong for you. Yeah, yeah.
500
00:24:50,870 --> 00:24:51,870
I remember her.
501
00:24:52,930 --> 00:24:56,970
She's dead. She's dead. No, you don't
know that. She's not dead. Everyone
502
00:24:56,970 --> 00:24:59,230
dead, you know. Everyone's dead except
us, and it's not fair.
503
00:24:59,510 --> 00:25:00,479
Mm.
504
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,700
Seems right. Oh, and this is David
pretending to read, which is always a
505
00:25:03,700 --> 00:25:04,559
one.
506
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,720
It's Mick pretending to read.
507
00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:07,540
Anyone remember Duke Fame?
508
00:25:07,780 --> 00:25:10,620
Right, Duke Fame, where is he now?
Anyone remember Duke Fame? No, he is
509
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,740
actually. I think he is, yeah.
510
00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:16,000
Nice handshake.
511
00:25:16,540 --> 00:25:19,720
Well, if you look in his eyes, he was
dead at the time.
512
00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:25,540
He should have been our manager. He
wound up running a record company.
513
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,380
I can't remember what it was. It was
located in... Denver. Cayman Islands,
514
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,360
wasn't it? Denver, Colorado, yeah. It
was called Smegma.
515
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,380
Smegma Records, that's correct, yeah.
516
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:35,600
What's his name?
517
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,840
Terry. Terry something, yeah. Terry.
518
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,160
Who's a liar? Look at it.
519
00:25:39,780 --> 00:25:43,980
Liar. Two liars in a lying contest. You
know, when two liars lie so much, it
520
00:25:43,980 --> 00:25:46,680
just sort of cancels itself out. And it
becomes the truth.
521
00:25:46,940 --> 00:25:47,940
Yes. Yeah.
522
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,480
Nice jacket, though.
523
00:25:49,740 --> 00:25:51,640
Yeah. Nice sort of like... Yeah.
524
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,040
Duke.
525
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,080
She's got this much talent.
526
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,960
We carried that. And then Marty puts
this in to make us look mad.
527
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,280
Yeah, then this is really going behind
our backs. This is that secret camera he
528
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,280
was using, you know. That's right.
529
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,640
Have you seen Duke Fame's current album?
530
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,530
Um... Yes, yes.
531
00:26:16,990 --> 00:26:18,670
I'm making a good point here, isn't it?
532
00:26:19,010 --> 00:26:22,410
It's a rather lurid cover. I mean, it's
like naked women.
533
00:26:22,630 --> 00:26:23,830
This is you at your best, really.
534
00:26:24,050 --> 00:26:28,130
He's tied down to this table and he's
got these whips and they're all semi
535
00:26:28,130 --> 00:26:29,130
-nude. Knocking on him.
536
00:26:29,530 --> 00:26:33,890
Well, the point is, it's much worse than
the smell of a glove. Exactly, yeah. I
537
00:26:33,890 --> 00:26:35,450
remember that cover. That was awful.
538
00:26:36,350 --> 00:26:37,350
Paceless.
539
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,780
I remember those travel folders. I spent
hours going through those.
540
00:26:42,420 --> 00:26:47,000
Those were the best folders I'd ever
seen. They were great.
541
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,600
Do you remember the one for Arizona?
542
00:26:50,260 --> 00:26:51,260
It was all red.
543
00:26:51,540 --> 00:26:55,500
They call it the red planet, don't they,
Arizona? They sure do.
544
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,580
I have a small piece of bad news.
Always.
545
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:01,760
We're cancelled.
546
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,560
At the hotel?
547
00:27:03,620 --> 00:27:04,459
No, we're cancelled.
548
00:27:04,460 --> 00:27:05,500
The gig is cancelled.
549
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:06,940
You see, the thing is...
550
00:27:07,150 --> 00:27:11,170
Did he ever say, give us good news,
ever? No. No, he said, I mean, he told
551
00:27:11,170 --> 00:27:13,990
one time, he says, it's not my job to
give you good news. You've already got
552
00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:17,510
good news. You're rock and roll stars.
That's the good news. The bad news is
553
00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:19,530
we're going home. The bad news is
everything else.
554
00:27:19,770 --> 00:27:22,190
No one's buying any tickets. There's
things like that.
555
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,200
Look at him.
556
00:27:24,820 --> 00:27:27,940
He bought those gold records.
557
00:27:28,660 --> 00:27:30,100
They're not even gold, they're silver.
558
00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:34,560
They're silver, right, first of all. But
there's a place where if you're in the
559
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,420
business, you can just go buy those, put
them on a wall and look important.
560
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,960
Yeah, you can rent them as well, you
know. Really? I bet you he's a renter.
561
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,160
He might be a renter.
562
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,040
I noticed this here, you've got this
cricket.
563
00:27:46,260 --> 00:27:47,260
Affectation.
564
00:27:49,620 --> 00:27:51,120
Decided to seem like one of the lads.
565
00:27:52,190 --> 00:27:53,550
That's really what the desire is.
566
00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:55,290
I suppose, what's the word?
567
00:27:55,850 --> 00:27:56,850
What's the word?
568
00:27:56,890 --> 00:27:59,210
Affectation. Yeah, not to seem like such
a... See that phone?
569
00:27:59,590 --> 00:28:01,130
Yeah. It wasn't plugged in.
570
00:28:01,430 --> 00:28:02,309
Is that right?
571
00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:05,950
It was a complete phony. It was a total
phony. Total phony. Now this, yeah.
572
00:28:06,270 --> 00:28:07,390
Showing off. Showing off, yeah.
573
00:28:07,610 --> 00:28:10,590
Oh, yeah. Showing off. Oh, scares me.
Scares me.
574
00:28:10,850 --> 00:28:14,350
Yeah. I remember his trousers caught on
fire after he hit the TV.
575
00:28:14,570 --> 00:28:15,690
After he lied. Yeah.
576
00:28:16,510 --> 00:28:19,690
Bish. Talking to Janine.
577
00:28:19,890 --> 00:28:20,890
Yeah.
578
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,680
Still talking to Janine.
579
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,080
Are you?
580
00:28:24,140 --> 00:28:27,660
Well, we're talking again, you know. We
haven't actually seen each other for
581
00:28:27,660 --> 00:28:31,780
about six months now, you know, but
we're still... She emailed me about two
582
00:28:31,780 --> 00:28:33,080
years ago. Are you on email?
583
00:28:33,380 --> 00:28:35,720
Yeah, he's got the email. No, my friend
is, though. Oh.
584
00:28:36,020 --> 00:28:37,020
Yeah.
585
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,840
Well, she, you know... Oh, it's just
when the millennium changed, so did she.
586
00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:48,100
There's a little booklet that tells you
how to use a phone. Yeah.
587
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,320
Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
588
00:28:50,570 --> 00:28:51,249
I have no idea.
589
00:28:51,250 --> 00:28:54,570
Well, that guitar's interesting, Nick.
Yeah, a piece of shit guitar is what it
590
00:28:54,570 --> 00:28:55,970
was, yeah. It was a fake Strat.
591
00:28:56,510 --> 00:28:57,510
Oh, yeah, yeah.
592
00:28:57,570 --> 00:28:59,310
That was the brand name, fake Strat.
Yeah.
593
00:28:59,510 --> 00:29:00,590
Okay. Bye.
594
00:29:00,870 --> 00:29:01,870
Maple neck.
595
00:29:03,650 --> 00:29:07,630
Well, my problems are solved, mate.
What's she need? She's going to come
596
00:29:07,630 --> 00:29:08,630
us.
597
00:29:08,750 --> 00:29:12,030
That was the name of the bloke who
actually made the guitars that way, a
598
00:29:12,030 --> 00:29:12,869
fake Strat.
599
00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:13,870
Yeah.
600
00:29:14,430 --> 00:29:17,590
Came by at the two of them. Well, I
didn't realise, when he used the secret
601
00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:21,890
camera, he was filming that he was
filming yeah and a lot of times if you
602
00:29:21,890 --> 00:29:26,590
remember he said this bit's not going to
be shown i know he was always saying
603
00:29:26,590 --> 00:29:29,650
that he was saying he said don't worry
about me i'm not here i'm not here i'm
604
00:29:29,650 --> 00:29:32,130
not here after a while i was convinced
yeah
605
00:29:32,130 --> 00:29:38,930
this was a big sweet that this was a big
606
00:29:38,930 --> 00:29:44,110
sweet listen i don't believe it i
remember that yeah this is probably the
607
00:29:44,110 --> 00:29:45,950
time this has been played on the bloody
radio
608
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,740
Oh, they're doing this decade, aren't
they? Oh, do you remember that?
609
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,680
1967?
610
00:29:53,940 --> 00:29:54,980
67? 66?
611
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,600
The woman with Mick was somebody's aunt.
612
00:29:59,340 --> 00:30:01,740
Really? No, now she's... It was Mick's
aunt.
613
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,160
That was it.
614
00:30:06,290 --> 00:30:07,870
How did he get a girl like that?
615
00:30:10,930 --> 00:30:12,110
She's not in sync either.
616
00:30:16,250 --> 00:30:18,790
It still hurts.
617
00:30:19,070 --> 00:30:20,290
It still hurts.
618
00:30:20,610 --> 00:30:22,650
Johnny Q's doing business news now.
619
00:30:23,450 --> 00:30:24,710
I happen to know that.
620
00:30:27,130 --> 00:30:28,069
He's dead.
621
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:30,430
Johnny Q. Of course he's dead. Oh,
Elvis, yeah.
622
00:30:31,260 --> 00:30:33,600
He was dead at the time. Oh, yeah. He
was way dead.
623
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:40,620
He was dead before it was cool to be
dead. It's such a waste of nice flowers
624
00:30:40,620 --> 00:30:42,900
put them on a dead bloke's headstone.
625
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,040
Well, you're going to put it on a live
bloke's headstone.
626
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,520
Oh, that's a good point. Yeah.
627
00:30:48,780 --> 00:30:53,600
Do you think he knew he was dead at the
time? I don't think he knew he was
628
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,600
alive.
629
00:30:54,780 --> 00:30:55,780
Good point.
630
00:30:56,580 --> 00:30:58,920
Do you know this song was written by
Hoyt Axton's mother?
631
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,340
She also was an inventor.
632
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,600
No.
633
00:31:04,540 --> 00:31:07,420
Hedy Lamarr was an inventor. Yeah, she
invented herself.
634
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,500
But she never wrote any songs for Elvis.
635
00:31:09,780 --> 00:31:11,140
No, she didn't. To my knowledge.
636
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,360
She's dead.
637
00:31:13,380 --> 00:31:14,380
Yeah.
638
00:31:14,990 --> 00:31:18,250
The problem was I had my finger in my
ear because I had an ear infection.
639
00:31:18,570 --> 00:31:21,690
I'm so glad you stopped doing that
because that's why it got infected. You
640
00:31:21,690 --> 00:31:25,290
putting your finger in there. You've got
to wash it before you put it in your
641
00:31:25,290 --> 00:31:29,330
ear. Because it goes back and forth.
Finger gets infected, ear, ear, finger,
642
00:31:29,330 --> 00:31:30,049
finger, ear.
643
00:31:30,050 --> 00:31:32,490
It's a feedback loop at that point. The
state of your finger is very important.
644
00:31:32,770 --> 00:31:34,730
Well, you get a waxy finger build -up
that way.
645
00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:36,830
Not too much.
646
00:31:37,230 --> 00:31:39,170
There's too much backing perspective
now.
647
00:31:41,830 --> 00:31:42,970
He's still scratching it.
648
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,340
You wear a fake beard, you've got to
scratch it.
649
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,980
Also, we had the world's ear because we
had just released an enormous selling
650
00:31:51,980 --> 00:31:54,220
single. Listen to the flower. Flower
people.
651
00:31:55,180 --> 00:31:57,340
We toured the world, we toured the
States.
652
00:31:57,700 --> 00:31:58,700
We toured the world and elsewhere.
653
00:31:58,780 --> 00:32:00,540
It was a dream come true.
654
00:32:01,460 --> 00:32:04,460
That was our first trip to Hollywood.
655
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,100
What was the name of that DJ that was
hosting? It was your first trip to House
656
00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:09,879
of Stripes.
657
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:16,280
trousers very stylish at the time you
know you could get picked up for as a
658
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:22,840
decoy cot in that clothing that was
crazy i remember that i remember that
659
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:29,400
i remember those strings i should cut my
hair again that sort of page boy very
660
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,560
nice feeling you know high collars are
good on your night yeah they hide that
661
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,740
turkey neck and the turkey thanks thanks
guys just joking
662
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:41,760
Nothing hides that. That's why sort of
Tibetan period.
663
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,000
That girl on the upper right was very
familiar. We love you. I'm saying we
664
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,440
you in it. I can figure that out. Oh,
okay.
665
00:32:49,340 --> 00:32:51,200
People have asked me for years.
666
00:32:51,540 --> 00:32:53,420
You said we lug you on the record.
667
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,500
I did. I wasn't reading properly.
668
00:32:56,140 --> 00:32:57,400
I hadn't got my lenses.
669
00:33:00,780 --> 00:33:02,600
We were playing a... Festival.
670
00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:06,200
Jazz blues festival. Where was that?
Blues jazz, really. Blues jazz festival.
671
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,600
It was in the Isle... Isle of Lucy.
672
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,620
The Isle of Lucy. Isle of Lucy. Jazz
blues festival. And it was tragic,
673
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,460
He exploded on stage.
674
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,720
Still makes a good story.
675
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,880
Yeah. You know, if you look at Marty,
he's just thinking, I've got these guys.
676
00:33:22,180 --> 00:33:24,200
Yeah, I've got them. That's right.
That's right.
677
00:33:25,889 --> 00:33:26,910
He's just bleeding us on.
678
00:33:27,770 --> 00:33:30,610
Tell us more about your dead drummers.
It's a big joke.
679
00:33:31,850 --> 00:33:32,850
Scratching again.
680
00:33:33,190 --> 00:33:34,770
Well, that really lulled me.
681
00:33:35,050 --> 00:33:37,930
I'd scratch his beard and I'd be sort of
lulled.
682
00:33:38,730 --> 00:33:40,450
It was like being mesmerized.
683
00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:43,670
Yeah, like when you rub a, you know, a
parrot's belly.
684
00:33:43,910 --> 00:33:45,870
I'm thinking just, you know, why don't
you spray it?
685
00:33:46,650 --> 00:33:47,650
Spray the parrot?
686
00:33:47,730 --> 00:33:49,270
No, spray the beard.
687
00:33:49,930 --> 00:33:51,150
He's showing the sound test.
688
00:33:52,010 --> 00:33:53,470
This is the hidden camera bit.
689
00:33:53,850 --> 00:33:55,950
Yeah, exactly. We didn't know it was
recording. We're not rolling, he'd say.
690
00:33:56,010 --> 00:33:57,010
We're not rolling.
691
00:33:59,070 --> 00:34:00,550
That's Paul Jr.
692
00:34:00,770 --> 00:34:01,770
I got.
693
00:34:02,110 --> 00:34:05,590
We're not even plugged in, barely. Are
we doing it half tempo?
694
00:34:05,910 --> 00:34:06,910
Yeah.
695
00:34:07,070 --> 00:34:10,770
This is what, like two in the afternoon,
you know, who's awake?
696
00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:14,650
It's daylight outside, you can see that.
697
00:34:14,989 --> 00:34:15,989
Yeah.
698
00:34:19,770 --> 00:34:21,090
What was her skull's name?
699
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:23,460
Fred? No. No.
700
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:27,380
That's going to drive me crazy for the
rest of the film. Scottie?
701
00:34:27,659 --> 00:34:29,639
No. Something like that.
702
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,159
Paul? No.
703
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,359
No. No.
704
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,639
Norman? No, that was the guitar shop.
That's right.
705
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:38,840
Viv? Was it Viv?
706
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:42,239
No. She should have never left Chiswick.
707
00:34:43,630 --> 00:34:44,750
She made a big mistake.
708
00:34:45,050 --> 00:34:49,070
No, look, look. I mean, I've got my
problems with Janine these days, but
709
00:34:49,070 --> 00:34:52,350
got to admit... She looks like Annie
Ugly. Look at this look. I think it's a
710
00:34:52,350 --> 00:34:53,710
great look, really. Yeah.
711
00:34:54,350 --> 00:34:57,270
Looks like something Dan Duryea would
wear, you know.
712
00:34:57,870 --> 00:34:58,870
Awful clothing.
713
00:34:59,570 --> 00:35:02,530
Scotty at the board back there. Yeah,
Kitty Kitty.
714
00:35:03,130 --> 00:35:05,850
You know it's on camera, she never puts
her tongue in your mouth.
715
00:35:06,150 --> 00:35:07,790
Well, I was always chewing gum.
716
00:35:08,010 --> 00:35:09,150
No, it's because you had an ear
infection.
717
00:35:10,630 --> 00:35:11,870
From your finger? Yeah.
718
00:35:14,750 --> 00:35:15,750
Oh, look at this.
719
00:35:16,030 --> 00:35:17,510
Look at him hiding behind the skull.
720
00:35:17,810 --> 00:35:19,090
He's always hiding behind somewhere.
721
00:35:21,690 --> 00:35:23,250
Skippy was the skull, isn't he? No.
722
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:24,510
No, no.
723
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:25,830
Skippy was the... Skyler.
724
00:35:26,450 --> 00:35:27,930
No. Skyler's skull.
725
00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:29,550
Shorty. No.
726
00:35:31,130 --> 00:35:32,130
Sidney.
727
00:35:32,730 --> 00:35:35,610
No. No, this is, yeah, like he's got
something great to show us. Oh, yeah,
728
00:35:35,630 --> 00:35:36,630
great.
729
00:35:36,830 --> 00:35:40,770
Actually, Nigel Rand wound up liking the
album and it became sort of famous, you
730
00:35:40,770 --> 00:35:41,770
know. Yeah.
731
00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:45,190
You were overreacting, David.
732
00:35:45,490 --> 00:35:49,450
I was. I was angry. I was angry. I had a
great highs and great lows this day.
733
00:35:50,890 --> 00:35:54,690
You were bipolar on this day. I was. You
were seriously bipolar.
734
00:35:55,230 --> 00:35:56,630
Bipolarized. Classic.
735
00:35:57,950 --> 00:35:58,950
See,
736
00:36:01,230 --> 00:36:02,310
I'm trying to look at the bright side.
737
00:36:02,530 --> 00:36:05,930
Well, there are no bright sides. It's
just all dark. It's black, yeah, but I
738
00:36:05,930 --> 00:36:10,610
mean... Every movie and every cinema is
about death.
739
00:36:11,070 --> 00:36:12,110
I've got to admit, he's right.
740
00:36:15,430 --> 00:36:18,050
I mean, we could have done that Sixth
Sense film, you know.
741
00:36:18,690 --> 00:36:21,990
If we had really bought into this. Or
Eleven Monkeys.
742
00:36:22,290 --> 00:36:25,630
It was Twelve Monkeys, wasn't it? Was
it?
743
00:36:26,430 --> 00:36:28,110
I don't know. That was the UK title.
744
00:36:28,350 --> 00:36:31,150
You're thinking of Eleven Men and a Girl
with Joey Brown.
745
00:36:31,770 --> 00:36:33,710
This is David.
746
00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:35,310
David,
747
00:36:36,170 --> 00:36:38,950
it's a choice. I frankly think that this
is the turning point, OK?
748
00:36:39,210 --> 00:36:40,169
Yeah, right.
749
00:36:40,170 --> 00:36:43,490
Now watch what he feeds us here. The
turning point right here. Yeah. It's
750
00:36:43,490 --> 00:36:44,468
to kick ass.
751
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:47,630
Yeah, like you could kick anybody's ass.
This was still one of the great
752
00:36:47,630 --> 00:36:48,910
production numbers of the time. Oh,
yeah.
753
00:36:50,370 --> 00:36:54,450
You know, do you remember we actually
told a thing? I mean, we started to
754
00:36:54,450 --> 00:36:55,450
believe our own...
755
00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:00,460
We stole this from a Purim festival we
went to and saw. That's right. That was
756
00:37:00,460 --> 00:37:02,860
probably the largest Purim festival in
Europe.
757
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:05,540
It was the Gold Earth Green Purim
festival.
758
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,220
That's that little guitar I was playing.
759
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,800
Yeah. What was your problem here?
760
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,340
It didn't get out. I thought you were
going to suffocate at first.
761
00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:23,470
I do too. I stopped breathing. Well,
it's very distracting to the song
762
00:37:23,470 --> 00:37:27,290
it's a great song. It is a great song.
Nobody's listening now. No. See, I'm not
763
00:37:27,290 --> 00:37:29,910
listening. But you know what's amazing
is that you kept playing right on
764
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:32,510
through. So professional. Yeah. Well,
the best you could anyway.
765
00:37:32,730 --> 00:37:33,730
Best I could. Yeah.
766
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,400
But I'm not breathing. I'm really on my
own oxygen now. I'm not taking any in
767
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,400
from the outside. What's his last name?
768
00:37:40,420 --> 00:37:42,600
Moak. Moak. Yeah, Moak. He's dead.
769
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,900
He is dead. No, not really.
770
00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:47,840
Is he not? Why do you keep saying that?
It's really depressing to think that
771
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,540
everyone's dead. Well, it's like a game
at this point, isn't it?
772
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,300
Well, it tells you the time has passed.
773
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,620
It's the most sincere way of saying time
has passed.
774
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:01,440
It's just... Ow. Ow, this really hurts.
That really hurts. That really hurts.
775
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,600
See, because there's...
776
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:09,380
Those edges were... They were never
dulled off. They were serrated. You
777
00:38:09,380 --> 00:38:10,420
have really lost your arm.
778
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,560
Yeah. And then your bass playing would
have gone downhill. Yeah, nice.
779
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,380
Good song.
780
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,040
Great message.
781
00:38:27,300 --> 00:38:28,680
The hammering doesn't work.
782
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,440
It was hammering with the beat, though,
at least.
783
00:38:31,740 --> 00:38:33,460
Yeah, that's true. And he's a frustrated
drummer.
784
00:38:38,340 --> 00:38:39,500
Now I'm getting scared.
785
00:38:41,020 --> 00:38:42,020
Yeah, show off.
786
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,580
You know, Vip couldn't use his thumbs
when he played. Do you know that? I
787
00:38:49,580 --> 00:38:54,780
thought he only used his thumbs. No,
he's like a chimp. He didn't have
788
00:38:54,780 --> 00:38:55,780
thumbs.
789
00:38:57,900 --> 00:39:00,320
But he had a prehensile tail to make up
for it. Yeah.
790
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,820
Now I'm getting scared because I'm not
going to get out.
791
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:09,300
But it's only happened once. You see,
this is what I'm saying.
792
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,400
Why doesn't he show creation any of the
nights where I'm out of the pole? It's
793
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,440
like tabloid filmmaking.
794
00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:19,200
You go for the shit.
795
00:39:19,860 --> 00:39:24,480
Yeah, well... You see, you got out. I
got out, yeah. And you came on in style,
796
00:39:24,660 --> 00:39:25,760
too. I like that. Yeah.
797
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,720
And I projected strength at the end. You
did.
798
00:39:30,850 --> 00:39:32,930
This was Mick's only recorded bath.
799
00:39:35,350 --> 00:39:38,950
Except for when they laid him out and
put the pennies on his eyes, I think.
800
00:39:39,630 --> 00:39:42,170
The sad thing is he's not wearing a
shower cap.
801
00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:44,430
Oh.
802
00:39:45,350 --> 00:39:46,730
He could have been killed.
803
00:39:48,910 --> 00:39:49,910
Missed opportunity.
804
00:39:53,950 --> 00:39:57,610
I remember that bus. Oh, God, I couldn't
sleep on this bus. What was the name of
805
00:39:57,610 --> 00:39:58,609
that driver?
806
00:39:58,610 --> 00:40:00,590
Shorty? No, Skyler. Oh, no.
807
00:40:00,810 --> 00:40:01,709
No, that was the Skull.
808
00:40:01,710 --> 00:40:05,550
Scrappy. Scrappy was the Skull. That's
right. No, no, Scrappy was the driver.
809
00:40:06,890 --> 00:40:09,370
Skippy was the driver. No, no.
810
00:40:10,310 --> 00:40:13,750
Oh, when you had to use a keyboard like
that to play video games.
811
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:17,460
I remember her. Oh, yes.
812
00:40:17,820 --> 00:40:21,320
She liked you. She did like me. And was
it Melinda was the other one, or
813
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,460
Belinda? Belinda.
814
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,420
Oh, back there? Yeah.
815
00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:26,900
This is embarrassing.
816
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:32,640
Do you remember when she first made this
little frock for you? Do you remember
817
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:38,260
that you could squeeze Saturn and it
went like that? Yeah. The only thing I
818
00:40:38,260 --> 00:40:40,320
liked about it. A children's toy, you
know.
819
00:40:40,860 --> 00:40:42,720
I'm surprised she didn't put catnip in
it.
820
00:40:43,660 --> 00:40:48,800
Before I met Janine, my life was
cosmically a shambles. That's true. I
821
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,840
bits and pieces of whatever Eastern
philosophy is having a drink.
822
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,920
You know, that's not good for you.
823
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,220
It'll give you an ear infection.
824
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,200
It's true.
825
00:40:57,540 --> 00:40:59,340
Doing a line will give you an ear
infection.
826
00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:01,600
Having Nigel stick his finger in there.
827
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,800
Well, that's another cause.
828
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:07,340
Oh, yeah. I mean, I listen to him when
he's experimenting and things like that,
829
00:41:07,340 --> 00:41:08,238
don't I?
830
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:11,340
You see, this was before Janine really
had an agenda.
831
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,600
Or a proper accent. She had an agenda
before she was born. No, it's not true.
832
00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:18,820
You're still misreading her.
833
00:41:19,460 --> 00:41:20,359
Misreading her?
834
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,740
You're misreading her. Yeah. I mean, she
only had the best intentions. She loved
835
00:41:23,740 --> 00:41:25,160
the group more than anything.
836
00:41:25,740 --> 00:41:30,500
And, you know, you're missing that part.
She did have a tin ear, though, didn't
837
00:41:30,500 --> 00:41:32,040
she? She wasn't musical, no.
838
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,660
No, she was not musical, but
conceptually.
839
00:41:35,490 --> 00:41:39,010
And dynamically, I thought she was of
great value if you'd only taken
840
00:41:39,010 --> 00:41:39,968
of her.
841
00:41:39,970 --> 00:41:43,750
I did take advantage of her. Well, not
that way. I know that. We've already
842
00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:44,750
through that.
843
00:41:45,710 --> 00:41:47,310
She's had some work done, hasn't she?
844
00:41:47,590 --> 00:41:50,950
Well, now she has. That's what I mean.
At this point, it was all natural.
845
00:41:52,650 --> 00:41:54,430
Have you ever finished this?
846
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:57,230
I'm working on it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm still
working on it.
847
00:41:57,670 --> 00:42:00,330
I've gotten past the bridge, but it's
still...
848
00:42:00,650 --> 00:42:03,290
It's one of those, it's like a Sherlock
Holmes story.
849
00:42:03,570 --> 00:42:05,270
A lot of fog and pipes.
850
00:42:05,610 --> 00:42:06,610
Well, the dog did it then.
851
00:42:07,070 --> 00:42:08,070
Yeah. Yeah.
852
00:42:08,310 --> 00:42:11,390
But you're not wearing make -up on your
hands in this scene. No, I took it off.
853
00:42:11,630 --> 00:42:12,630
Yeah.
854
00:42:12,850 --> 00:42:14,770
They look older. You've got some on your
jacket.
855
00:42:15,250 --> 00:42:16,330
That's a leather jacket.
856
00:42:16,670 --> 00:42:18,370
I know, but some make -up on it, I mean.
857
00:42:18,690 --> 00:42:20,290
No, I don't put make -up on it. No, no.
858
00:42:20,990 --> 00:42:23,450
A trilogy, really, a musical trilogy
that I'm doing.
859
00:42:23,650 --> 00:42:25,630
I gave that jacket to Jeff Beck.
860
00:42:25,910 --> 00:42:27,290
Did you really? I did, yeah.
861
00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:29,130
Did he like it? He said, fuck off.
862
00:42:29,350 --> 00:42:30,680
Oh. Did he keep it?
863
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:31,880
I don't know.
864
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:39,200
Do you remember Marty said to me, you
should get a manicure for tomorrow. I
865
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,100
said, what do you mean? He said, well,
when we come in for close shots. I said,
866
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,600
manicure? I don't get manicures. He
said, well, it might be good.
867
00:42:47,380 --> 00:42:48,820
And that was another manipulation.
868
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,820
Made you look like a bloody puffed ad,
didn't he?
869
00:42:51,260 --> 00:42:53,260
He told me to stop getting manicures.
870
00:42:54,180 --> 00:42:57,040
Always toying with it. You see that?
That's not Marty's leg.
871
00:42:58,529 --> 00:42:59,529
Really? Unbelievable.
872
00:42:59,710 --> 00:43:02,330
With a complete phony? Yeah. Well,
speaking of not his real something.
873
00:43:02,450 --> 00:43:04,750
Now, this was because... This was
another hidden camera moment. This must
874
00:43:04,750 --> 00:43:07,850
been terribly embarrassing for you. This
was not my fault. No, it's not. It
875
00:43:07,850 --> 00:43:10,450
wasn't my fault. You two... Well, we did
tell you that he needed... Not the
876
00:43:10,450 --> 00:43:13,490
group, you two. No. No, you two
individuals.
877
00:43:13,690 --> 00:43:17,250
No, it's true. We told you you needed a
bit more on stage. You didn't have to
878
00:43:17,250 --> 00:43:22,710
wear it in your personal life. Well, you
know, when you get out of the hotel
879
00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:27,110
in a hurry, you don't always pack
properly. I remember her.
880
00:43:27,530 --> 00:43:28,530
Yeah, Gloria.
881
00:43:29,090 --> 00:43:30,090
She's alive.
882
00:43:30,170 --> 00:43:31,690
Yeah, she's alive. She's alive, yeah.
883
00:43:32,690 --> 00:43:34,050
She's head of the L .A. police.
884
00:43:34,890 --> 00:43:38,030
Yeah, she's really risen in the force.
885
00:43:38,850 --> 00:43:41,530
Now, this taught me a valuable lesson.
Which was?
886
00:43:41,870 --> 00:43:42,868
Stay home.
887
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:43,870
Ride trains.
888
00:43:45,410 --> 00:43:47,930
Why don't they have these things for
when you get on trains? Isn't that
889
00:43:47,930 --> 00:43:49,430
interesting? Isn't that interesting?
890
00:43:50,590 --> 00:43:51,590
Oh,
891
00:43:51,890 --> 00:43:53,330
like no -one's going to blow up a train.
892
00:43:53,970 --> 00:43:55,110
Oh. Ooh.
893
00:43:55,330 --> 00:43:56,319
Look at that.
894
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,480
Not the first time that's happened. If
Viv could play that, he'd still be in
895
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:00,480
crew.
896
00:44:00,860 --> 00:44:03,080
Do you have any artificial plates or
limbs?
897
00:44:03,940 --> 00:44:05,620
Not really, no. See, that's a trick
question.
898
00:44:06,740 --> 00:44:11,780
Good answer, too. Thank you. Not really,
yeah. Well, and you, you lot, not
899
00:44:11,780 --> 00:44:14,140
helping with the cackling back there.
I'm sorry.
900
00:44:14,380 --> 00:44:15,380
With the cackling.
901
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,000
You know, why did you wrap it in metal?
902
00:44:18,420 --> 00:44:21,760
That's what I want to know. Because
otherwise it rots against your skin.
903
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,080
Figure it out.
904
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:28,980
Great song. Great song.
905
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,400
Classic. Classic.
906
00:44:30,980 --> 00:44:34,580
Yeah, it's anthemic. It's anthemic. And
endemic.
907
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:35,800
And pedantic.
908
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,140
Oh, yeah. That was a passport picture.
909
00:44:41,140 --> 00:44:42,140
That's cruel.
910
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,040
He couldn't get a passport.
911
00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:50,800
Just want to make some eardrums bleed.
912
00:44:52,580 --> 00:44:53,860
Yeah, nice pretending.
913
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:03,960
Just want to turn this up.
914
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,380
Yeah. Don't want to talk.
915
00:45:06,300 --> 00:45:09,200
A lot of power here. Oh, God.
916
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,180
It's my favourite angle. It just reeks
of power. The only angle.
917
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:21,740
See, now, he takes out your fellow.
918
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,000
Goes right for this. I thought we were
always going to get sued for this.
919
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:29,540
No, he's long dead.
920
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,160
I thought it was that Bagatelle wrote
this.
921
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:33,020
A bag of chips. Bag.
922
00:45:33,980 --> 00:45:34,980
Bag of chippy.
923
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,360
Turn it up, Nigel. Turn it up. Yeah.
That's it. Yeah.
924
00:45:42,740 --> 00:45:43,740
Spank it.
925
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:45,439
Oh, yeah.
926
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,280
Did we ever find out what the whiz was?
What a company of the whiz meant?
927
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,640
I think it meant community of whiz. Oh,
this bloke.
928
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,440
They're plumbing people, aren't they?
He's still alive. I know he's alive.
929
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,198
like... Fucking, yeah.
930
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,480
Fucking runs a record company. Well,
it's not really a record company. It's a
931
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:00,780
publishing company. Fucking something.
932
00:46:01,700 --> 00:46:04,200
Pufkin Tunes. No, Pufkin something. Oh,
Pufkin something.
933
00:46:04,420 --> 00:46:09,620
But isn't he one of those people behind
that internet music thing, the scam? Oh,
934
00:46:09,620 --> 00:46:10,760
those DMGs?
935
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,080
Yeah.
936
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,160
He's an MP3 DG.
937
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,580
MP3 DG, yeah. He's got a big purse now.
938
00:46:17,340 --> 00:46:21,380
MPG3. I saw him about a month ago. He's
got a huge bag he carries. He carries a
939
00:46:21,380 --> 00:46:22,400
satchel.
940
00:46:23,820 --> 00:46:28,180
But he he's it he called me about you
know, I will give you a songs. We'll
941
00:46:28,180 --> 00:46:34,780
you music away I liked him
942
00:46:39,970 --> 00:46:43,110
Complete disaster. I don't think I was
ever depressed on the phone. Oh, it was
943
00:46:43,110 --> 00:46:45,690
terrible. And you had a terrible cold.
944
00:46:45,950 --> 00:46:46,908
It was an allergy.
945
00:46:46,910 --> 00:46:49,170
You had a terrible allergy. It came from
that ear infection, didn't it? I was
946
00:46:49,170 --> 00:46:51,610
allergic to all the vinyl, as it turns
out.
947
00:46:51,850 --> 00:46:53,210
Allergic to Illinois, apparently.
948
00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:57,410
No. The minute we went to CDs, this went
away. Yeah.
949
00:46:57,650 --> 00:46:58,650
It was the vinyl.
950
00:46:58,710 --> 00:47:01,890
Did your mum ever teach you how to blow
in a Kleenex? Good.
951
00:47:02,190 --> 00:47:03,450
Yeah, look at it. He goes in there.
952
00:47:03,830 --> 00:47:04,870
Practicing. I'm fishing.
953
00:47:05,070 --> 00:47:06,070
I'm fishing.
954
00:47:08,090 --> 00:47:11,150
What can I tell you? This is the truth.
I know, but... Could have promoted it
955
00:47:11,150 --> 00:47:14,750
better, you know. No, look, see, we had
so many installs where this didn't
956
00:47:14,750 --> 00:47:17,810
happen. Why show this one? Why should
they show this one? Why show this one?
957
00:47:17,850 --> 00:47:22,090
Yeah. Show the one where the plane
lands, why don't you? Yeah, yeah.
958
00:47:22,090 --> 00:47:23,950
where the plane crashes all the time.
Yeah.
959
00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:26,730
Do we have a plane crash on this tour?
No, no, you know what I mean. Oh, you're
960
00:47:26,730 --> 00:47:27,730
making a metaphor.
961
00:47:28,090 --> 00:47:30,890
Well, I was making a mess, but now...
Making a metaphor.
962
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,940
We did. We did massive. We did massive.
We saturated.
963
00:47:35,300 --> 00:47:39,440
We oversaturated. I don't call that
saturation. See, I liked Ozzy. I liked
964
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,660
I liked him at the time. I don't think
he was a bad person. No. Now I fear him
965
00:47:43,660 --> 00:47:47,220
because he's powerful. But he's in the
wrong business. You fear him because
966
00:47:47,220 --> 00:47:51,040
bald. Well, yeah. He doesn't have this
much hair. And he did make us this
967
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,320
He had a nice ass.
968
00:47:52,740 --> 00:47:57,140
He did have a nice ass. I'm not asking.
I'm telling with this. Kick my ass. He's
969
00:47:57,140 --> 00:47:58,300
got something in his back pocket there.
970
00:47:58,680 --> 00:47:59,680
Yeah.
971
00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:02,820
Oh, my God, this is awful.
972
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,220
Again. That building is dead. That
building has been torn down. They blew
973
00:48:08,300 --> 00:48:12,580
They imploded it. But again, all the
time... They imploded it from the
974
00:48:12,820 --> 00:48:15,920
That's right. All the times that we
found the stage with no problem.
975
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,760
99 % of the time. No, no, I'm not going
to show the pic anyway.
976
00:48:21,180 --> 00:48:25,960
94. But did you see this implode on...
It was on the Internet.
977
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,760
Yeah. They imploded it from the outside.
Yeah. It was nice. And they couldn't
978
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:35,040
find... ironic they couldn't find a
place to implode it from right amazing
979
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:41,840
wasn't our fault i hope they got
980
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:46,300
this this this is when he was filming it
with that infrared camera we didn't
981
00:48:46,300 --> 00:48:50,700
even know he was anywhere in the
vicinity did we no no i thought it was
982
00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:51,700
else following us around
983
00:48:53,710 --> 00:48:58,370
This is good, though. It shows that they
love us. They do love us. I think he's
984
00:48:58,370 --> 00:49:00,170
creating a tension.
985
00:49:01,730 --> 00:49:04,870
Yeah, but it's the wrong kind of
tension, really. It's the kind of
986
00:49:04,870 --> 00:49:05,870
don't want.
987
00:49:06,090 --> 00:49:08,250
It's the kind of tension you take
medication for.
988
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:12,190
It's hyper -tension rather than hypo
-tension, which is what you want. I hope
989
00:49:12,190 --> 00:49:15,430
that they remembered to tell this bloke
to get out before they imploded the
990
00:49:15,430 --> 00:49:17,790
building. Yeah, that's a good point.
991
00:49:19,050 --> 00:49:20,430
But I bet they didn't.
992
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:22,950
And then there's a little jog there.
993
00:49:30,180 --> 00:49:32,000
It was very hot in there, remember?
994
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,000
Very hot. Really hot.
995
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,740
It was like hell down there.
996
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,760
So he recognised we were musicians.
997
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,460
Yeah. Even he knew.
998
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,900
I kept thinking, no, we should have
turned the other way. Just there. That's
999
00:49:51,900 --> 00:49:54,380
where we made our... That was the
turning point. That was the turning...
1000
00:49:54,380 --> 00:49:57,420
every movie, there's a turning point.
Yeah, that was it. Even in a movie
1001
00:49:57,420 --> 00:50:00,160
The Turning Point. There was no turning
point in that movie.
1002
00:50:01,020 --> 00:50:05,220
Yeah. That was it. See, he knew it.
Yeah. That was the turning point.
1003
00:50:05,860 --> 00:50:10,400
I don't think... I remember this
waitress.
1004
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,680
Do you know who... She was somebody's
sister, wasn't she? Well, someone is
1005
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:15,680
everyone's sister.
1006
00:50:15,860 --> 00:50:17,400
You're not. Really, I'm not either.
1007
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:18,880
now that you bring it up.
1008
00:50:20,860 --> 00:50:21,860
OK.
1009
00:50:22,740 --> 00:50:24,600
I think... You see that water?
1010
00:50:24,860 --> 00:50:29,220
Yeah. He put something in that water. I
think this is the... Oh, Ian? Yeah.
1011
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:33,720
Just to get a... To dull our senses, I
think.
1012
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,340
I was feeling pretty woozy at the time,
I remember that.
1013
00:50:42,250 --> 00:50:46,130
I thought it was just that... You see,
see how antagonistic you are, Nige.
1014
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:49,970
You know, I know this is all... We don't
want to chew our spinach twice here,
1015
00:50:49,990 --> 00:50:55,950
but, you know, this is... If you had
only been just listened... I'd heard
1016
00:50:55,950 --> 00:50:56,950
enough, though.
1017
00:50:57,010 --> 00:50:58,330
I'd heard quite enough.
1018
00:50:58,990 --> 00:51:03,690
In Dublin, she means Dolby, all right?
She means Dolby. You know perfectly well
1019
00:51:03,690 --> 00:51:04,690
what she means.
1020
00:51:05,130 --> 00:51:07,290
Of course, now they don't even use Dolby
anymore.
1021
00:51:07,510 --> 00:51:11,110
They don't even use Dolby anymore. It's
dated. So we were right.
1022
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:15,350
Anyway, I still think that this is a
great idea.
1023
00:51:16,110 --> 00:51:17,110
Oh, well,
1024
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:18,710
you can keep pushing it.
1025
00:51:18,930 --> 00:51:22,810
No, no, I mean, it's too late now, but,
I mean, back in the 80s, it would have
1026
00:51:22,810 --> 00:51:23,810
gone over a bomb.
1027
00:51:24,830 --> 00:51:25,830
Look.
1028
00:51:26,830 --> 00:51:30,550
Now, wouldn't Viv have looked a lot
better with a yin -yang face? He would
1029
00:51:30,550 --> 00:51:32,870
looked a lot better just wearing that
paper over his face.
1030
00:51:35,130 --> 00:51:36,130
Nigel's the goat.
1031
00:51:36,930 --> 00:51:37,930
Goat boy.
1032
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,680
Do you see how closed -minded you're
being there?
1033
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,040
Well, look at these drawings.
1034
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,880
This looks like a space movie or
something.
1035
00:51:49,140 --> 00:51:52,880
Interesting. Just think the time it
would have taken to put those on before
1036
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:53,880
show, Dave.
1037
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,000
Just the time it would have taken to put
that. I suppose.
1038
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:03,380
See, he does have a point. It would cost
a lot of money to do it. Yeah, well, of
1039
00:52:03,380 --> 00:52:07,060
course, trust Ian. It's money he'd
rather steal for himself.
1040
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:08,360
Yeah.
1041
00:52:12,450 --> 00:52:16,250
It was good, it was good. Well, it's all
good sport now, but at the time it was
1042
00:52:16,250 --> 00:52:17,330
very tense.
1043
00:52:17,770 --> 00:52:20,930
Well, because you hadn't brought the
bloody food. You noticed the table
1044
00:52:20,930 --> 00:52:23,970
Well, the service was a bit slow. There
was no food on the table.
1045
00:52:25,210 --> 00:52:27,350
We're all a bit peckish at this point.
1046
00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:29,630
Now watch this.
1047
00:52:33,550 --> 00:52:34,550
See,
1048
00:52:35,570 --> 00:52:36,950
this is the turning point in the picture
here.
1049
00:52:38,690 --> 00:52:40,330
Do you hear the music they're playing?
Yeah.
1050
00:52:40,530 --> 00:52:43,990
Do you notice that Ian never took us to
a restaurant where they played our
1051
00:52:43,990 --> 00:52:44,990
music?
1052
00:52:45,090 --> 00:52:47,810
Interesting. And never occurred to me.
And I think that was a psychological
1053
00:52:47,810 --> 00:52:53,230
thing to make us feel... Small. Yeah. To
make us feel small. To remind us that
1054
00:52:53,230 --> 00:52:56,750
our music was not playing in any
restaurant. You lot are nothing. Yes,
1055
00:52:56,810 --> 00:52:59,510
You know, Burt Bacharach or whoever,
he's the king.
1056
00:53:02,860 --> 00:53:07,100
You see? Notice how Marty... I've got to
say this. At this point, Ian was really
1057
00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:08,100
sucking up to you.
1058
00:53:08,380 --> 00:53:11,380
Me? Yes, because he didn't like Janine.
It had nothing to do with me.
1059
00:53:11,720 --> 00:53:18,680
Well... He's finally stopped scratching,
hasn't
1060
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:19,680
he? Yeah.
1061
00:53:19,700 --> 00:53:20,700
He'll go back to it.
1062
00:53:21,980 --> 00:53:27,720
This is my favourite part of the film
because I really do admire you as a
1063
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:29,400
musician, Nige. And I think this...
1064
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:34,480
Is my favourite filmic representation of
your soloing?
1065
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:35,920
That's not bad.
1066
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,300
Wish I had that guitar these days.
1067
00:53:39,060 --> 00:53:40,060
Oh, the flying V?
1068
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,200
Yeah. Yeah.
1069
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,320
Yeah.
1070
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,360
Still got those plimsolls.
1071
00:53:51,940 --> 00:53:53,160
You do? Yeah.
1072
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:54,960
Well, it must be a bit darker now.
1073
00:53:55,220 --> 00:53:56,220
Yeah.
1074
00:53:58,980 --> 00:54:02,260
This is before you really studied the
violin. Yeah, it's before they gave me
1075
00:54:02,260 --> 00:54:04,940
that Stradivarius. A fake Stradivarius.
1076
00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:06,240
Yeah.
1077
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:09,980
Yeah, some idiot didn't tune it.
1078
00:54:11,580 --> 00:54:12,960
I felt sorry for her.
1079
00:54:13,180 --> 00:54:14,180
Or Polly Deutsch, yeah.
1080
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,080
Yeah. She tried her best and she made a
great piece. She really did.
1081
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,260
I'd like to find it. You know, this
would be a collector's item now. Yeah.
1082
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,540
It'd be on eBay if you could find this.
1083
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,260
But I mean... Isn't it the actual piece?
Well, I mean, when you build the actual
1084
00:54:32,260 --> 00:54:34,240
piece... But this is what you asked for,
isn't it?
1085
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,160
What?
1086
00:54:36,940 --> 00:54:37,960
Wasn't this the piece?
1087
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,200
This is the piece?
1088
00:54:39,700 --> 00:54:42,420
Yes. Are you telling me that this is it?
1089
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:44,240
This is scenery?
1090
00:54:45,140 --> 00:54:46,680
Have you ever been to Stonehenge?
1091
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,560
No, I haven't been to Stonehenge. The
triptychs are 20 feet high.
1092
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,780
You can stand four men up on it. Yes, I
was asked to build it.
1093
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,180
This isn't the piece of scenery.
1094
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,080
Look, look, this is what I was asked to
build.
1095
00:54:58,540 --> 00:55:02,220
18 inches, right here, it's specified,
18 inches. She's right.
1096
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,380
I was given this napkin. This is so sad.
1097
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,060
It's really not her fault.
1098
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,500
Now, again... And you can't really fuck
the napkin at that point.
1099
00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:12,720
Oh, I see.
1100
00:55:14,580 --> 00:55:18,100
See, this still would have been a
great... It would have been a great
1101
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:22,660
It is a great number. We should have
just... Yeah, if he'd said... If Ian had
1102
00:55:22,660 --> 00:55:26,100
decided, all right, scrap the prop.
1103
00:55:27,100 --> 00:55:28,100
The song would have worked.
1104
00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:31,440
Yeah. But I don't think I would have
been convinced.
1105
00:55:32,380 --> 00:55:35,720
That we were in Stonehenge? I was
looking forward to the set working.
1106
00:55:36,380 --> 00:55:40,360
Yeah, but all I'm saying is it wouldn't
have been half as embarrassing to us. I
1107
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,780
know, I know. But, you know, it's over.
He made a choice. He made a bad choice.
1108
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:45,920
Yeah.
1109
00:55:47,340 --> 00:55:49,360
I do love the way you read this, Nigel.
1110
00:55:49,660 --> 00:55:53,720
I memorized it, you know. No, I know,
but I mean, read it in the way you say
1111
00:55:53,720 --> 00:55:54,720
Oh. Yeah.
1112
00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:56,810
It's like you believe it.
1113
00:55:57,990 --> 00:56:00,390
I do believe it. You do believe it. It's
like you follow it anyway.
1114
00:56:01,690 --> 00:56:06,150
And the eye makeup here is just the
greatest. And of course all the kids are
1115
00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:07,009
wearing that now.
1116
00:56:07,010 --> 00:56:09,890
Yeah. If only we had two and six for all
of them.
1117
00:56:10,330 --> 00:56:11,330
Yeah.
1118
00:56:16,370 --> 00:56:17,930
Viv rocking out over there. Yeah.
1119
00:56:18,310 --> 00:56:19,310
Well, the helmet helped.
1120
00:56:21,130 --> 00:56:23,090
Sort of demagnetized the plate in his
head.
1121
00:56:35,759 --> 00:56:36,759
Ditto. See,
1122
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:42,900
when people say tap isn't romantic, you
know, all this new romantic rubbish came
1123
00:56:42,900 --> 00:56:47,700
up in this time. We were more romantic
than any of it. But we were classical,
1124
00:56:48,020 --> 00:56:49,360
though. Classic romantic.
1125
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:50,680
We were the classic sources.
1126
00:56:50,860 --> 00:56:51,578
That's right.
1127
00:56:51,580 --> 00:56:54,860
For example, this, you know, the date of
the druid. Because if you can hear
1128
00:56:54,860 --> 00:56:59,240
music and get a history lesson at the
same time and not know it, yeah what
1129
00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:03,080
better not know you hear it not know
you're hearing music to start with if
1130
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:07,560
don't know either either that's the idea
that's right yeah ahead of the game
1131
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,720
another guitar i sold off i'd like that
one explorer
1132
00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:18,700
so what other band could
1133
00:57:18,700 --> 00:57:23,940
keep their audience quiet this long for
for a dramatic reading well yo -yo ma
1134
00:57:23,940 --> 00:57:29,340
has done i mean i don't mean you know i
mean banned and banned he's not much of
1135
00:57:29,340 --> 00:57:35,940
a band really he's got a good look no
1136
00:57:35,940 --> 00:57:41,000
are these two i've stayed in touch with
one of them the one on the left haven't
1137
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:45,120
grown an inch by the way no no not a
thing now it's the one on the right
1138
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:51,880
oh i was so angry i just knew there was
something
1139
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:52,980
something off
1140
00:57:56,399 --> 00:58:00,120
My stomach's in knots just watching this
now. There was a Stonehenge monument on
1141
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:04,560
the stage that was in danger of being
crushed by a dwarf, all right?
1142
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,280
See, that's overstating it, David.
1143
00:58:07,660 --> 00:58:08,538
I know.
1144
00:58:08,540 --> 00:58:10,840
I was trying to make a point.
1145
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,960
Nigel gave me a drawing that said 18
inches, all right? I know he did, and
1146
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,900
that's what I'm talking about. It's not
my problem.
1147
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,320
I do what I'm told.
1148
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:24,360
What's he doing now, the dwarf?
1149
00:58:25,710 --> 00:58:26,710
He's in sales.
1150
00:58:28,890 --> 00:58:29,689
That's rough.
1151
00:58:29,690 --> 00:58:30,970
Yeah. It's a rough gig.
1152
00:58:31,470 --> 00:58:34,950
Well, I mean, there's so much rejection
anyway in sales, and then when you're...
1153
00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:36,130
And then when you're a midget as well.
1154
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:38,310
He's not a midget. He's a dwarf. He's a
dwarf.
1155
00:58:38,630 --> 00:58:41,810
They call them little people, though,
now.
1156
00:58:42,130 --> 00:58:43,670
Why do they do that? It's so belittling.
1157
00:58:44,570 --> 00:58:45,610
Literally. Yeah.
1158
00:58:47,150 --> 00:58:48,570
They should call them big people.
1159
00:58:49,370 --> 00:58:51,030
It'd be a lie, but it would be nicer.
1160
00:58:51,730 --> 00:58:52,730
Or it would be a...
1161
00:58:53,819 --> 00:58:56,520
A euphemism, an ironic euphemism. That's
exactly right, yeah.
1162
00:58:57,580 --> 00:58:59,440
He's a big person. He's three foot four.
1163
00:59:00,780 --> 00:59:05,960
You see, even in retrospect, I think
that... Everything's in retrospect,
1164
00:59:05,980 --> 00:59:08,620
isn't it? I know, I know, but in further
retrospect... Except right now as we're
1165
00:59:08,620 --> 00:59:13,600
speaking. Well, that's... What you just
said is in retrospect now. Well, now it
1166
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,400
is, yeah. I've forgotten the point I was
going to make, but it was much more
1167
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,200
interesting. In hindsight, retrospective
2020, though.
1168
00:59:19,710 --> 00:59:22,870
All spec. Very well said. What you're
saying is all spec is retrospect.
1169
00:59:23,330 --> 00:59:24,330
It's all on spec.
1170
00:59:24,390 --> 00:59:27,670
Do you remember this telly? It was
always jumping around like that. I know.
1171
00:59:27,670 --> 00:59:28,488
should have gotten a refund.
1172
00:59:28,490 --> 00:59:29,870
We should have gotten a refund for that
room.
1173
00:59:30,110 --> 00:59:31,110
Hey, hey.
1174
00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:33,230
And two, we should have gotten a rebate.
1175
00:59:35,450 --> 00:59:37,450
She had so much...
1176
00:59:38,710 --> 00:59:43,070
Venom in her. No, it's not venom. No,
she desperately wanted things to be
1177
00:59:43,070 --> 00:59:45,130
better. She's an improver.
1178
00:59:45,570 --> 00:59:50,470
You know, her smoothness was overcome by
her stridency, I believe. Yeah, well,
1179
00:59:50,490 --> 00:59:51,490
that's true.
1180
00:59:51,590 --> 00:59:55,330
I mean, I have my problems with Janine
these days, but, you know, at the
1181
00:59:55,330 --> 00:59:59,830
What would they be, David? Well, the
fact that she doesn't want to be married
1182
00:59:59,830 --> 01:00:03,210
me anymore, but that's the main problem.
Do you know that I heard...
1183
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,400
That she's written a children's book.
Yeah, that's true.
1184
01:00:06,940 --> 01:00:09,360
What's it called? It's called A
Stretchmark Named Misha.
1185
01:00:09,660 --> 01:00:10,660
No, it's not.
1186
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:12,660
You're teasing now.
1187
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:15,340
That would be a good one.
1188
01:00:16,780 --> 01:00:18,960
Maybe there's someone already in the
organisation.
1189
01:00:19,580 --> 01:00:23,820
Oh, here he goes. Well, it's a
perfectly, actually, very smart
1190
01:00:23,820 --> 01:00:27,260
is really the turning point of the
picture right here. And if Ian had gone
1191
01:00:27,260 --> 01:00:30,560
it, everything would have been fine.
Look at her eyes. She looks like one of
1192
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:34,040
those cobra snakes, doesn't she? No, she
doesn't. But see, this is Ian's
1193
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:38,700
masculinity being challenged, when it
really, him feeling... Well, he
1194
01:00:38,700 --> 01:00:41,320
his own masculinity. He challenged his
own masculinity. Once he spotted it.
1195
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:46,980
Yeah, but if he hadn't taken that...
See, right here.
1196
01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:51,910
Oh, it's a good idea. I'll try. And then
just screw her out of the deal.
1197
01:00:52,550 --> 01:00:55,630
That's what he should have done. I know.
Well, that's creative management.
1198
01:00:55,870 --> 01:00:56,870
That's creative management.
1199
01:00:57,030 --> 01:01:00,710
I am not managing it with you or any
other woman, especially... I think this
1200
01:01:00,710 --> 01:01:04,030
whole thing was a set -up. I think that
they've worked this out before. With
1201
01:01:04,030 --> 01:01:05,030
Marty?
1202
01:01:05,230 --> 01:01:08,990
With someone. It just feels... If you
look at it now, it doesn't feel... Feels
1203
01:01:08,990 --> 01:01:09,990
fake?
1204
01:01:10,070 --> 01:01:11,070
Well... No.
1205
01:01:11,150 --> 01:01:16,010
Not really fake, but false. I think it's
very unusual that Marty was invited to
1206
01:01:16,010 --> 01:01:17,010
this meeting.
1207
01:01:17,070 --> 01:01:21,030
Because we had many other band meetings
on this tour that he was not invited to.
1208
01:01:21,150 --> 01:01:25,190
But was this one of those hidden camera
ones? No, we're not going to fucking do
1209
01:01:25,190 --> 01:01:27,450
Stone Age. No, not really.
1210
01:01:28,610 --> 01:01:30,690
You see how efficient she was, though,
really.
1211
01:01:30,930 --> 01:01:34,570
I mean, things continued to go wrong,
but it wasn't because of her. But they
1212
01:01:34,570 --> 01:01:37,450
went wrong more smoothly. Yes, very well
said.
1213
01:01:38,650 --> 01:01:41,470
Yeah, I noticed that myself. They were
more professionally wrong. Yeah.
1214
01:01:45,870 --> 01:01:48,610
We never did get to record at Rainbow
Track, did we? No, no.
1215
01:01:49,010 --> 01:01:50,210
It's not a studio now.
1216
01:01:51,150 --> 01:01:52,150
It's a spa.
1217
01:01:52,610 --> 01:01:53,610
Do you know that?
1218
01:01:53,770 --> 01:02:00,090
Where do we do this? We did that one. We
added the track that they show us
1219
01:02:00,090 --> 01:02:01,230
recording later on.
1220
01:02:01,490 --> 01:02:03,090
Where was that? Was that in Colorado?
1221
01:02:03,410 --> 01:02:04,078
Don't know.
1222
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,740
No. It was in America.
1223
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:11,880
David, if you look at all these drawings
that we did, this has all been proven
1224
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,520
to be just a load of rubbish, you know.
No, it's not.
1225
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,160
It's just numbers and colours. No, it's
not.
1226
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,760
Look, the Zodiac wouldn't have been
around for, you know, 3 ,000 years if it
1227
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,720
weren't sending to it. Well, Pericoma
was around for 3 ,000 years.
1228
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:27,460
What's that you're reading, Nigel?
1229
01:02:28,100 --> 01:02:30,480
That's a trivia question. What was that
you're reading? It was a car magazine.
1230
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:32,460
You're always reading those car
magazines. Is that right?
1231
01:02:33,390 --> 01:02:36,730
Not really. I mean, you know... You look
so buff there, mate.
1232
01:02:38,170 --> 01:02:42,990
But really, it's not... No, not really.
He's cute, you know. He's got a look
1233
01:02:42,990 --> 01:02:44,530
left in his chin there.
1234
01:02:45,030 --> 01:02:47,870
Oh, fake beard again. Mate's about to
cry, isn't he?
1235
01:02:49,550 --> 01:02:51,030
His brothers always fight.
1236
01:02:51,970 --> 01:02:54,090
Sort of disagreements and all that.
1237
01:02:55,050 --> 01:02:59,490
We really have a relationship that's
way... See, he's setting you up here.
1238
01:03:00,350 --> 01:03:02,150
He's taking the piss. He can just...
1239
01:03:02,460 --> 01:03:05,220
Pull the rug out. Yeah, and he's going
to stick the nut in.
1240
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,240
And I was having a lot of trouble
sleeping on the road.
1241
01:03:07,860 --> 01:03:11,380
This studio was having a lot of trouble
playing on the road. Well, that's why,
1242
01:03:11,620 --> 01:03:13,260
though. Yeah. And it was a new part.
1243
01:03:14,460 --> 01:03:16,280
Paddy McDonald controls.
1244
01:03:17,780 --> 01:03:18,780
Paddy O. McDonald.
1245
01:03:18,820 --> 01:03:20,800
Paddy O. McDonald. What does the O stand
for?
1246
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:23,440
Open.
1247
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,080
Great, great Irish geezer.
1248
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:32,760
These were good days.
1249
01:03:34,180 --> 01:03:37,000
You can't fucking concentrate because of
your fucking wife.
1250
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,640
Simple as that, all right? It's your
fucking wife. She's not my wife.
1251
01:03:40,860 --> 01:03:43,260
Well, whatever the fuck she is, all
right? You can't concentrate.
1252
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,360
The record mill, was that the name of
it? The record mill?
1253
01:03:46,580 --> 01:03:49,400
The record... The record... Something
like that.
1254
01:03:49,660 --> 01:03:54,240
The record works, the... The disc
extruder. The sound works. That's where
1255
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,400
recorded Hello Mother, Hello Father.
Really? In that room, yeah.
1256
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,500
We've got two visionaries in the band.
1257
01:04:02,769 --> 01:04:04,710
I just washed my hair that day.
1258
01:04:05,670 --> 01:04:11,090
Yourself? No, no, one of the... Candy, I
think, one of my special friends had
1259
01:04:11,090 --> 01:04:13,950
washed it for me. Why is it that you
don't like to wash your own hair? Is
1260
01:04:13,950 --> 01:04:15,210
like a childhood thing or something?
1261
01:04:15,970 --> 01:04:21,990
Yeah, it's... Well, if you wear gloves,
it's all right. Yeah. But I don't often
1262
01:04:21,990 --> 01:04:23,290
carry gloves with me. No.
1263
01:04:26,010 --> 01:04:29,670
I don't even think that's us on the
plane. I think that's just a complete
1264
01:04:29,670 --> 01:04:30,670
shot.
1265
01:04:30,830 --> 01:04:34,330
I mean, that's what de Burgi would do.
He would just throw in whatever... Just
1266
01:04:34,330 --> 01:04:35,330
cheat. Just cheat.
1267
01:04:35,670 --> 01:04:38,350
I think sometimes those aren't our real
voices.
1268
01:04:39,550 --> 01:04:43,510
That he put it in like those chipmunks,
you know? Yeah. Do you wash your own
1269
01:04:43,510 --> 01:04:46,570
hair? I have washed my own hair. Do you
wash your own chipmunks?
1270
01:04:46,990 --> 01:04:47,990
The next question.
1271
01:04:48,770 --> 01:04:49,770
Yeah, it's weird.
1272
01:04:51,910 --> 01:04:53,490
This was a nightmare.
1273
01:04:53,690 --> 01:04:56,150
This was like being in an... This was
not our audience. Like being in an Air
1274
01:04:56,150 --> 01:04:57,150
Force base.
1275
01:04:57,930 --> 01:05:00,790
Oh, it was in the Air Force Base.
Lieutenant, what's his name?
1276
01:05:01,710 --> 01:05:06,930
Hook Stratton. He's, I read, he's very
high up in the Air Force now.
1277
01:05:07,130 --> 01:05:12,410
Really? Yeah, he was involved in Desert
Strum, whatever that was. Desert Bloom.
1278
01:05:12,650 --> 01:05:13,650
Desert Bloom.
1279
01:05:14,090 --> 01:05:15,870
Your music and all of your records.
1280
01:05:16,270 --> 01:05:19,750
I'm not speaking of yours personally,
but the whole genre of the rock and
1281
01:05:20,590 --> 01:05:23,630
No, it was Kolarov.
1282
01:05:24,070 --> 01:05:25,610
Kolarov. Kolarov.
1283
01:05:25,850 --> 01:05:28,810
Wherever they had that war where he was
involved in the bombing.
1284
01:05:29,390 --> 01:05:30,730
Koalagate. Kosovo.
1285
01:05:31,690 --> 01:05:33,250
Kokomo. Kokomo War.
1286
01:05:33,510 --> 01:05:34,610
Yeah, the Kokomo War.
1287
01:05:34,930 --> 01:05:35,950
The big Kokomo War.
1288
01:05:36,530 --> 01:05:39,930
He was like picking targets. I didn't
feel comfortable here.
1289
01:05:40,150 --> 01:05:42,090
I didn't feel comfortable at the Air
Force Base.
1290
01:05:42,650 --> 01:05:45,810
I don't know why. These weren't our
people. They were not our people.
1291
01:05:45,810 --> 01:05:48,790
lot of blokes wearing jeans, though,
look. You know, that's close. That's
1292
01:05:48,850 --> 01:05:52,450
isn't it? Yeah. And it was the only
venue we ever played that had trucks on
1293
01:05:52,450 --> 01:05:53,450
you know, on the stage.
1294
01:05:53,630 --> 01:05:54,630
Inside, yeah.
1295
01:05:55,050 --> 01:05:58,130
She had a nice long hair, didn't she?
Only time I ever remembered Viv wearing
1296
01:05:58,130 --> 01:05:59,130
red.
1297
01:05:59,350 --> 01:06:01,830
Yeah, he looked good in red. He did look
good in red.
1298
01:06:02,210 --> 01:06:06,490
He looked vivid in red. I make it now,
it's about 1830 hours.
1299
01:06:06,990 --> 01:06:08,290
So that's, what, 50 hours?
1300
01:06:08,610 --> 01:06:10,790
I still don't get that.
1301
01:06:11,879 --> 01:06:13,140
Still don't understand that.
1302
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,500
They do it to confuse the civilians.
1303
01:06:16,780 --> 01:06:17,780
That's what they do.
1304
01:06:17,820 --> 01:06:19,900
As if they're not confused enough, yeah.
That's right.
1305
01:06:25,060 --> 01:06:28,460
This is as close as we came to really
cooking this night and then it all, you
1306
01:06:28,460 --> 01:06:29,460
know, all hit the fan.
1307
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:33,560
But you see, Marty doesn't show it.
1308
01:06:34,010 --> 01:06:39,890
No. He doesn't choose to show the
enjoyment, only the dismay. Only the de
1309
01:06:39,890 --> 01:06:40,950
-joyment. Yeah.
1310
01:06:41,550 --> 01:06:47,610
When you say the camera doesn't lie...
Oh, the camera lies better than
1311
01:06:47,730 --> 01:06:48,730
They lie saying that.
1312
01:06:48,950 --> 01:06:52,530
It's the champion liar of all time,
isn't it? They lie about the camera.
1313
01:06:53,220 --> 01:06:56,860
It's like the Blackfeet Indian and the
Whitefeet Indian, and the only way you
1314
01:06:56,860 --> 01:07:00,540
can tell them is one lies and one
doesn't, and you ask them and they say,
1315
01:07:00,620 --> 01:07:04,160
I don't know, or something, and that
could be a lie. You see, it's a paradox.
1316
01:07:04,540 --> 01:07:05,540
Yeah.
1317
01:07:10,860 --> 01:07:14,380
See, if we'd had a decent soundtrack, we
could have all, this all could have
1318
01:07:14,380 --> 01:07:19,140
worked out, but now it's got to be 1830
hours or whatever.
1319
01:07:19,620 --> 01:07:20,620
Yeah.
1320
01:07:21,260 --> 01:07:25,080
You see, I was ready to laugh at all,
but look, you know, it's just the
1321
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:29,760
have just built up. Yeah. And it's no
one's fault. I think your trousers were
1322
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:30,760
too tight.
1323
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:32,740
When you look at that. Yeah.
1324
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:44,260
Do you notice that she's always made up?
1325
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:49,180
She's got lipstick and make -up on all
the time. Well, she's just a girl.
1326
01:07:55,250 --> 01:07:58,530
I'm going to try and bring that skinny
scarf look back. I like that.
1327
01:08:00,070 --> 01:08:02,430
I don't think that would fit around your
neck now.
1328
01:08:03,130 --> 01:08:04,130
Probably right.
1329
01:08:04,190 --> 01:08:06,830
Well, you get something that colour
around your neck now. It really does
1330
01:08:06,830 --> 01:08:07,549
the turkey.
1331
01:08:07,550 --> 01:08:08,550
Yeah, yeah.
1332
01:08:35,020 --> 01:08:39,080
What he really should have done was face
the piano backwards.
1333
01:08:40,010 --> 01:08:42,770
And that top part being played by his
left hand. Yeah.
1334
01:08:43,490 --> 01:08:45,069
That would have taken a technique.
1335
01:08:46,050 --> 01:08:47,050
Yeah, yeah.
1336
01:08:48,130 --> 01:08:50,649
Oh, what was this? Oh, Theme Land, yes.
1337
01:08:51,430 --> 01:08:53,350
Stockton. I didn't even know there was a
Stockton.
1338
01:08:53,970 --> 01:08:55,750
That's where they keep the stock, isn't
it?
1339
01:08:58,529 --> 01:09:00,430
Livestockton, I think, was the original
name of the town.
1340
01:09:00,810 --> 01:09:02,229
Livestockton, and then they cut it
short.
1341
01:09:03,370 --> 01:09:05,290
I think she looks good in the cowboy
hat.
1342
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:07,580
That's not a real cowboy hat.
1343
01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:13,000
Cowboys don't wear peach -coloured hats.
No, no, it's more plum, but, no, you're
1344
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:19,880
right, I mean... Mendocino rocket fuel.
Remember Viv was always selling us
1345
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:21,300
some Mendocino rocket fuel?
1346
01:09:22,060 --> 01:09:23,979
Did you ever have any of that? Oh, God,
yeah.
1347
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:28,000
Back in my old days, yeah, yeah. I don't
do any sort of drugs anymore. No, of
1348
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,080
course not, no, no, no.
1349
01:09:29,740 --> 01:09:30,859
Yeah, yeah.
1350
01:09:31,540 --> 01:09:32,740
Heavy hold, heavy hold.
1351
01:09:34,250 --> 01:09:35,609
It really was shit, too.
1352
01:09:35,970 --> 01:09:37,529
Yeah, it was bad. It was bad.
1353
01:09:37,790 --> 01:09:41,069
I suppose you don't need much to get a
rocket off the ground in Mendocino.
1354
01:09:42,870 --> 01:09:47,970
You know, not being at this, seeing
this, you know, it makes me sad to see
1355
01:09:47,970 --> 01:09:49,750
what's going on here.
1356
01:09:50,850 --> 01:09:54,390
It's so pathetic, you know. It's not
exactly meeting of the minds, is it? No.
1357
01:09:55,990 --> 01:09:58,570
Well, we were trying to deal with a
situation.
1358
01:09:59,070 --> 01:10:01,730
Suddenly we'd lost our lead guitar
player. Oh, I know.
1359
01:10:01,930 --> 01:10:03,150
Look at this.
1360
01:10:03,610 --> 01:10:06,810
40 people there. Well, it's daytime,
isn't it? I mean, who goes to see a rock
1361
01:10:06,810 --> 01:10:09,790
show on daytime? It was a beautiful day
outside, and they were all up on the
1362
01:10:09,790 --> 01:10:11,310
roller coaster. It happened to be
wildflower season.
1363
01:10:11,950 --> 01:10:15,190
Janine is playing in a totally different
time signature. Yeah.
1364
01:10:15,490 --> 01:10:17,390
Well, we were playing polyrhythms.
1365
01:10:17,730 --> 01:10:22,130
Yeah. If you, if I, you know. Oh, look
at that. Yeah. She didn't care for it.
1366
01:10:22,170 --> 01:10:25,650
Yeah, but that's one person out of 50.
1367
01:10:26,150 --> 01:10:27,150
Yeah.
1368
01:10:28,330 --> 01:10:29,890
And we'd not rehearse this.
1369
01:10:30,990 --> 01:10:32,690
Well, I gave you credit where it was
due.
1370
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:37,500
Do you know what that base sold for on
the Internet? No.
1371
01:10:38,060 --> 01:10:40,780
It's up to $44 ,000.
1372
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,420
Cool. Yeah, but no one's bought it.
1373
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:49,180
No one's bought it, but if they did, it
would cost them an arm and a leg. Cool.
1374
01:10:49,980 --> 01:10:51,220
No one's bid on it yet.
1375
01:10:52,460 --> 01:10:54,540
There we are. This is Los Angeles.
1376
01:10:54,780 --> 01:10:55,960
And what's the name of that hotel?
1377
01:10:56,980 --> 01:11:00,980
That's the Riot House. The Riot House.
Yeah, the old Riot House. Man.
1378
01:11:03,430 --> 01:11:07,070
I'm making some good points here, even
though I've fallen off the wagon rather
1379
01:11:07,070 --> 01:11:10,750
heavily at this point. Oh, you dropped
off, didn't you? I think the wagon ran
1380
01:11:10,750 --> 01:11:12,350
over you at this point. I think so.
1381
01:11:13,750 --> 01:11:19,390
You notice that at this point you look
so lost, you know? Oh, we were lost.
1382
01:11:19,470 --> 01:11:20,670
There's no shine to your hair.
1383
01:11:20,910 --> 01:11:23,790
Listen, there's no shame in admitting
that we were lost when you left. Oh,
1384
01:11:23,790 --> 01:11:24,850
what's her name? What's her name?
1385
01:11:25,490 --> 01:11:29,890
Lindsay... Lindsay Dugan. Lindsay Dugan.
Oh, God.
1386
01:11:30,230 --> 01:11:31,230
What's she with?
1387
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,180
They're a record company. What was her
name?
1388
01:11:35,540 --> 01:11:39,400
She was with Chameleon for a while.
Chameleon, yes. Where are the new
1389
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:40,400
coming from?
1390
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,180
Didn't the company change its name?
1391
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:44,260
It's always changing its name.
1392
01:11:46,300 --> 01:11:50,300
Still a good idea. Still a good idea.
Still a good idea.
1393
01:11:51,500 --> 01:11:54,760
We still haven't done it either. No,
that's a good idea too.
1394
01:11:56,540 --> 01:11:58,020
No, it's ironic, isn't it?
1395
01:11:58,490 --> 01:12:00,350
We've had all this time in the meantime.
1396
01:12:00,790 --> 01:12:05,710
Yeah. Remember those Germans who called
us up and said they wanted to do Softly
1397
01:12:05,710 --> 01:12:08,010
Jack? They wanted to do Sausage Jack.
1398
01:12:08,350 --> 01:12:09,350
No, no, no.
1399
01:12:09,590 --> 01:12:14,810
Seriously. Yeah. They were in Stuttgart
or someplace, or Bonn, and they wanted
1400
01:12:14,810 --> 01:12:17,690
to do Softly Jack.
1401
01:12:18,250 --> 01:12:21,790
Yeah. And we told them, you know, we've
only written like two or three numbers,
1402
01:12:21,850 --> 01:12:23,750
and they said, that's all right. You
know, we'll write our own.
1403
01:12:23,990 --> 01:12:27,350
I remember they said that's quite
enough. Yeah, better than this.
1404
01:12:27,710 --> 01:12:31,730
Less to cut. Leave them wanting more and
getting less. Leave them wanting all of
1405
01:12:31,730 --> 01:12:32,730
it. Yes.
1406
01:12:33,010 --> 01:12:35,990
Now, this is... I remember this
backstage.
1407
01:12:36,370 --> 01:12:40,170
She used to wear these kind of outfits
that were... What was the point of that,
1408
01:12:40,230 --> 01:12:40,949
you think?
1409
01:12:40,950 --> 01:12:44,330
Well, to show off her breasts. Oh. That
was one point.
1410
01:12:44,910 --> 01:12:48,650
Those were two points. Two points. Thank
you. Very well said. Thank you.
1411
01:12:49,710 --> 01:12:55,630
Yes. See, I think she was... I think she
was putting herself in a position,
1412
01:12:55,750 --> 01:12:56,750
literally,
1413
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,560
To say, highest bidder.
1414
01:13:01,480 --> 01:13:05,180
Look, that's, you know, it's... Uh -oh.
Hello.
1415
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,100
Yellow trousers?
1416
01:13:07,420 --> 01:13:08,660
Yeah. What was that idea?
1417
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:09,920
Oh, you're taking up golf.
1418
01:13:10,460 --> 01:13:12,940
No, I'm not taking up golf.
1419
01:13:14,780 --> 01:13:17,100
Had you thought about that? I thought
about it, yeah.
1420
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:18,640
No,
1421
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:20,700
I mean, about wearing yellow trousers.
1422
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:22,280
I thought about it and I did it.
1423
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:28,440
It's a very tense moment here. I
remember this moment. He's coming to
1424
01:13:28,440 --> 01:13:30,980
around backstage like a real rock and
roll. I don't know what you're doing.
1425
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:32,980
I'm really a messenger.
1426
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:34,680
Oh, a messenger.
1427
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,420
Yeah. I bumped into Ian and... Ian.
1428
01:13:37,660 --> 01:13:38,660
Ian.
1429
01:13:38,900 --> 01:13:40,340
Oh, the other dead man, yeah.
1430
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:41,478
Is Ian dead?
1431
01:13:41,480 --> 01:13:46,960
Yeah. At the time I was speaking... No,
I know, I know, but I mean... We don't
1432
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:48,360
know. There's never any...
1433
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:52,740
Official word. Well, we were telling
people he was dead, and then he came out
1434
01:13:52,740 --> 01:13:55,160
and started writing letters to the
newspapers saying he wasn't dead.
1435
01:13:55,600 --> 01:14:01,560
So it's a difference of opinion. He took
that advert that said the rumor about
1436
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,000
his death was his own creation.
1437
01:14:03,420 --> 01:14:04,680
Which was a lie. It was ours.
1438
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,780
That's right. He took credit for the
rumor about his own death. That's so
1439
01:14:07,780 --> 01:14:09,080
typical. It's so typical.
1440
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,220
He would have taken a cut if the rumor
had made any money. It's true.
1441
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:15,320
Look, he's shaking.
1442
01:14:15,540 --> 01:14:17,460
Well, I'm angry. I'm angry and I'm
drunk.
1443
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:19,420
It's a deadly combination.
1444
01:14:19,740 --> 01:14:20,800
It's a good thing I didn't have a car.
1445
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,340
You don't have a car. I still don't have
a car, no. Well, it's a good thing you
1446
01:14:24,340 --> 01:14:25,460
didn't have Parkinson's, either.
1447
01:14:26,260 --> 01:14:27,600
Passing on the information, really.
1448
01:14:29,060 --> 01:14:33,380
Yeah, well, I think it's time to go in.
Yeah, see, she's... Always the
1449
01:14:33,380 --> 01:14:35,020
professional. Always the professional.
1450
01:14:35,500 --> 01:14:38,000
Yeah. Yeah. But professionals dress like
that, eh?
1451
01:14:38,820 --> 01:14:41,420
Well... I'm starting to say it's a trip
they do, yeah. Yeah, exactly.
1452
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:44,280
Yeah.
1453
01:14:46,300 --> 01:14:49,940
Oh, yeah. I'm surprised that you and
Janine didn't get along better, though,
1454
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:51,960
Nigel. We did for about ten minutes
once.
1455
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,580
Well, she says about six minutes.
1456
01:14:54,860 --> 01:14:55,860
All right.
1457
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:02,000
David.
1458
01:15:03,460 --> 01:15:04,540
Do a good show, all right?
1459
01:15:06,580 --> 01:15:07,660
You had me at hello.
1460
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,740
This is where you could have used more
conditioner, Dave.
1461
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:16,760
Way more. Way, way more.
1462
01:15:18,180 --> 01:15:19,180
You're very limp.
1463
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,360
What are you doing with your hands and
your trousers, eh? I'm doing a little
1464
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,200
pocket pool. You certainly are, man.
1465
01:15:26,420 --> 01:15:29,460
When you wear yellow trousers, that's
the price you pay. Derek is wearing the
1466
01:15:29,460 --> 01:15:31,780
same top that Leslie Caron wore in Lily.
1467
01:15:32,060 --> 01:15:33,700
I just want you all to know that.
1468
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:38,200
I'm projecting a little too little power
at this point, unfortunately.
1469
01:15:43,820 --> 01:15:47,320
It sounded good as a four -piece,
though, doesn't it? I know. Well, it's a
1470
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:48,440
of a hole. There she is.
1471
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:52,820
Musically, you mean, yes.
1472
01:15:55,140 --> 01:15:56,140
Right there.
1473
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,900
Well, that's me playing a solo, yeah. So
there's nobody crunching along.
1474
01:16:00,180 --> 01:16:04,240
But you've got that fringe.
1475
01:16:04,500 --> 01:16:07,840
What's that fringe? My hair. No, no. Oh,
on the strap. On the strap.
1476
01:16:08,100 --> 01:16:11,040
I borrowed a strap from someone. I can't
remember.
1477
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:12,680
Neil Young.
1478
01:16:12,940 --> 01:16:17,320
Neil Young's estate looks like... Neil
Short, I think. It's very... Look how
1479
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,360
high up my guitar is. I know, but look
at all that fringe.
1480
01:16:20,740 --> 01:16:21,840
That's someone like you.
1481
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:27,640
It's like Davy Crockett played guitar,
something like that. Oh, yeah? Yeah.
1482
01:16:28,580 --> 01:16:31,500
To me, this is the turning point of the
picture right here. Well, it's because
1483
01:16:31,500 --> 01:16:34,920
the audience is applauding the pants.
Yeah. You know, the yellow pants.
1484
01:16:35,380 --> 01:16:38,880
Flash a bit of yellow trouser to a crowd
and you get a cheer every time.
1485
01:16:39,460 --> 01:16:40,720
No, it's great.
1486
01:16:41,180 --> 01:16:43,920
It was a great moment when you came
back, Knight. It was great showmanship.
1487
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:53,900
See, once again. Same problem, yeah.
1488
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,220
You've got to go hard, Wyatt. Yeah, this
is set up.
1489
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:00,480
Yeah, it's all right, though. Marty
could have cut that right out.
1490
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,320
No, but he chose to show us.
1491
01:17:03,020 --> 01:17:04,840
Uh -oh. Look out, Mick.
1492
01:17:06,540 --> 01:17:09,940
I'm glad we got it on tape, though,
because, you know. No one believed it.
1493
01:17:09,940 --> 01:17:11,420
one believed it. I know.
1494
01:17:11,660 --> 01:17:17,480
Plus, in the lawsuit, it was great,
great evidence. Now, this bloke, Joe.
1495
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:22,400
Joe Mama Besser. Jazz background. Jazz
background. Wonderful jazz background.
1496
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,260
Not much of a rock player. We sort of
lost track of him in Tokyo.
1497
01:17:25,540 --> 01:17:29,540
Actually said, actually said, could not
cut this 4 -4 shit.
1498
01:17:29,980 --> 01:17:31,080
Never believed that.
1499
01:17:32,660 --> 01:17:35,340
Well, that was sort of refreshing to be
able to tell our side.
1500
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:36,660
Yeah. It's important.
1501
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,800
Yeah, they need our version of it, don't
they? For balance.
1502
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:42,360
For a historical record.
1503
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:43,560
Yeah. And equality.
1504
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,620
Yeah. And fraternity. And for uplift.
1505
01:17:46,860 --> 01:17:47,860
We'll get some stakes.
1506
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:49,059
All right.
1507
01:17:49,060 --> 01:17:51,740
And now it's all black again, see? Well,
it's like the album cover.
1508
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:57,320
Do you feel that playing rock and roll
music keeps you a child?
1509
01:17:57,740 --> 01:18:00,300
That is, keeps you in a state of
arrested development?
1510
01:18:01,060 --> 01:18:07,700
No. No, I feel it's more like going to a
national park or something, and they
1511
01:18:07,700 --> 01:18:09,420
preserve the moose.
1512
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:13,180
And that's my childhood up there on
stage, is that moose.
1513
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:17,840
So when you're playing, you feel like a
preserved moose on stage. Yeah. I've
1514
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:21,160
been listening to the classics. I belong
to a great series.
1515
01:18:21,980 --> 01:18:26,160
It's called the Namesake series of
cassettes. And they send you the works
1516
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:29,120
famous authors done by actors with the
same last name.
1517
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:34,720
So I've got Denham Elliott reading T .S.
Elliott on this one. And I've got, yes,
1518
01:18:34,900 --> 01:18:39,640
I've got Danny Thomas doing A Child's
Christmas in Wales by Dylan Thomas. And
1519
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:45,820
next month it's McLean Stevenson reads
Robert Louis Stevenson, Treasure Island,
1520
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:46,438
I believe.
1521
01:18:46,440 --> 01:18:47,440
That's interesting.
1522
01:18:47,940 --> 01:18:52,400
There's also something, there's a
shorter works of Washington Irving read
1523
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:53,420
someone called Dr. J.
1524
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:55,660
That's Julius Irving.
1525
01:18:56,160 --> 01:19:00,880
Oh, there we go. Keeping with the
series. I didn't know that. You like
1526
01:19:01,060 --> 01:19:02,060
It's very nice.
1527
01:19:02,100 --> 01:19:06,520
This is my exact inner structure, done
in a T -shirt.
1528
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:08,940
Exactly medically accurate.
1529
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:14,060
See? So, in other words, if we were to
take all your flesh and blood... Take
1530
01:19:14,060 --> 01:19:14,898
them off.
1531
01:19:14,900 --> 01:19:16,940
It wouldn't be green, though.
1532
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:18,920
It is green.
1533
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,520
You know, see how your blood looks blue?
1534
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,580
Yeah, well, that's just the vein. I
mean, the color of the vein. The blood
1535
01:19:25,580 --> 01:19:26,358
actually red.
1536
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:27,560
Oh, well, maybe it's not green.
1537
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:29,480
Anyway, this is what we sleep in
sometimes.
1538
01:19:30,140 --> 01:19:35,380
Dennis Eaton Hogg, the president of
Polymer Records, was recently knighted.
1539
01:19:35,620 --> 01:19:40,340
What were the circumstances surrounding
his knighthood? The specific reason why
1540
01:19:40,340 --> 01:19:46,600
he was knighted was for the founding of
Hogwood, which is a summer camp for pale
1541
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:47,600
young boys.
1542
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:53,560
David St. Hubbins. I must admit, I've
never heard anybody with that name.
1543
01:19:53,780 --> 01:19:54,880
What's an unusual name?
1544
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,680
Well, he was an unusual saint. He's not
a very well -known saint.
1545
01:19:58,020 --> 01:20:02,220
Oh, there actually is. There was a St.
Hubbins. That's right, yes. What was he
1546
01:20:02,220 --> 01:20:04,720
the saint of? He was the patron saint of
quality footwear.
1547
01:20:05,620 --> 01:20:10,300
You play to predominantly a white
audience.
1548
01:20:10,810 --> 01:20:13,490
Do you feel your music is racist in any
way? No.
1549
01:20:13,790 --> 01:20:18,570
No, no, of course not. You know, we say,
we say, love your brother. We don't say
1550
01:20:18,570 --> 01:20:21,830
it, really. We don't literally say it.
No, we don't say it. We don't really
1551
01:20:21,830 --> 01:20:26,350
literally mean it. No, we don't believe
it either, but that message should be
1552
01:20:26,350 --> 01:20:28,110
clear anyway. We're anything but racist.
1553
01:20:28,430 --> 01:20:31,070
You know, we've grown musically. I mean,
you listen to some of the rubbish we
1554
01:20:31,070 --> 01:20:32,530
did early on. It was stupid.
1555
01:20:32,830 --> 01:20:39,130
You know, now, I mean, a song like Sex
Bomb, we're taking a sophisticated view
1556
01:20:39,130 --> 01:20:45,220
of... The idea of sex, you know, and
music. On a farm. Yeah. If I were to ask
1557
01:20:45,220 --> 01:20:49,560
you what your philosophy of life or your
creed, what would that be?
1558
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:55,680
Have a good time all the time.
1559
01:20:57,420 --> 01:20:59,020
That's my philosophy, Marty.
1560
01:20:59,580 --> 01:21:05,360
I believe virtually everything I read.
And I think that is what makes me more
1561
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:08,040
a selective human than someone who
doesn't believe anything.
1562
01:21:08,810 --> 01:21:11,670
Do you have a philosophy or a creed that
you live by?
1563
01:21:12,310 --> 01:21:17,170
Well, personally, I like to think about
sex and drugs and rock and roll. You
1564
01:21:17,170 --> 01:21:21,510
know, that's my life. If you were to
have something written as your
1565
01:21:21,510 --> 01:21:25,310
Here lies David St. Hubbins.
1566
01:21:27,890 --> 01:21:28,890
And why not?
1567
01:21:31,610 --> 01:21:35,910
You feel that sums up your... No, it's
the first thing I could think of. It
1568
01:21:35,910 --> 01:21:37,490
doesn't sum up anything, really.
1569
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:39,700
I'm a real fish nut.
1570
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:40,920
I really like fish.
1571
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:42,380
What kind of fish?
1572
01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:45,860
Well, in the United States, you have
cod.
1573
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:47,160
I like cod.
1574
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:51,220
And I love tuna. Those little cans
you've got here, tuna fish.
1575
01:21:51,480 --> 01:21:53,160
Yeah. No bones.
1576
01:21:53,540 --> 01:21:54,540
Yeah.
1577
01:21:55,900 --> 01:22:00,540
If you could not play rock and roll,
what would you do? I'd be a full -time
1578
01:22:00,540 --> 01:22:01,540
dreamer.
1579
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:06,000
I'd probably get a bit stupid and start
to make a fool of myself in public
1580
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:07,760
because there wouldn't be a stage to go
on.
1581
01:22:08,330 --> 01:22:09,330
Probably work with children.
1582
01:22:10,850 --> 01:22:15,630
As long as there's, you know, sex and
drugs, I can do without a rock and roll.
1583
01:22:17,030 --> 01:22:23,750
Well, I suppose I could work in a shop
of some kind or do freelance selling
1584
01:22:23,750 --> 01:22:25,630
of some sort of product.
1585
01:22:26,590 --> 01:22:31,650
A salesman? A salesman, like maybe in a
haberdasher or maybe like a
1586
01:22:31,650 --> 01:22:35,330
chapeau shop or something.
1587
01:22:36,150 --> 01:22:38,950
No, no. Would you... What size do you
wear, sir?
1588
01:22:39,790 --> 01:22:40,870
And then you answer me.
1589
01:22:41,390 --> 01:22:42,390
Seven and a quarter.
1590
01:22:42,550 --> 01:22:43,750
I think we have that.
1591
01:22:44,550 --> 01:22:48,610
Something like that. Yeah. You think
you'd be happy doing that? No, we're all
1592
01:22:48,610 --> 01:22:49,990
out. Do you wear black?
1593
01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:54,650
See, that sort of thing, I think I could
probably muster up. Yeah. Do you think
1594
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you'd be happy doing that?
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I don't know. What are the hours?
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