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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:10,640 Over here. 2 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:11,720 Good 3 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:29,100 morning. 4 00:03:29,460 --> 00:03:34,180 Good morning. Good to see you. This is Bob. 5 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,900 I needed to talk to you. I wanted to ask if you had a chance to read the 6 00:03:37,900 --> 00:03:38,900 pleading. 7 00:03:39,130 --> 00:03:40,130 Excuse me, Mr. 8 00:03:40,330 --> 00:03:41,330 Kinney? Yes. 9 00:03:42,030 --> 00:03:44,010 I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt. 10 00:03:45,370 --> 00:03:47,150 My name is Lou Ann Wilkins. 11 00:03:47,510 --> 00:03:50,230 I'm sorry to bother you, but I know you're a lawyer. 12 00:03:50,490 --> 00:03:53,310 Ms. Wilkins, I don't usually discuss business at church. 13 00:03:53,930 --> 00:03:56,370 Oh, no, I realize that. 14 00:03:56,790 --> 00:04:01,670 Well, I don't know any lawyers, and I don't come to church very often, but I 15 00:04:01,670 --> 00:04:08,250 knew that you were a lawyer, and I lost my daughter, Melissa. 16 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,320 She was 19. 17 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:16,320 She was staying with some people in California, and she died two months ago. 18 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,980 I'm very sorry to hear that. 19 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,040 Why don't we step over here? Y 'all excuse me. I'll talk to you later. 20 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,040 Oh, 21 00:04:27,580 --> 00:04:31,280 Wynne Burkholder. This is... I'm sorry. My pleasure. 22 00:04:32,020 --> 00:04:33,020 This is my son, 23 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,500 Christian. Hi. Hi. 24 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:36,880 We'll just be a minute. 25 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:41,760 Mrs. 26 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,600 Wilkins, I'm sorry. I'm not really the kind of lawyer, corporate lawyer. I want 27 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:47,600 you to deal with individuals. 28 00:04:48,580 --> 00:04:49,539 I'm sorry. 29 00:04:49,540 --> 00:04:54,420 I shouldn't be bothering you with this. It's just that I have some insurance. 30 00:04:55,500 --> 00:04:56,500 Life insurance? 31 00:04:56,700 --> 00:05:00,700 Oh, no, no burial insurance for the funeral expenses. 32 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:02,980 I'm a teacher. It's one of the benefits. 33 00:05:04,110 --> 00:05:08,870 I paid for the funeral, and now the insurance company won't pay me. It's 34 00:05:08,870 --> 00:05:15,190 ,000, and I... Insurance companies can be very, very callous. Take forever. 35 00:05:16,330 --> 00:05:18,810 Listen, why don't you stop by my office? I'll draw up a letter. 36 00:05:19,050 --> 00:05:21,570 When they see something written on a lawyer's letter, they usually get some 37 00:05:21,570 --> 00:05:22,570 moving. 38 00:05:23,170 --> 00:05:24,170 Okay? 39 00:05:24,510 --> 00:05:27,990 If you'll excuse me, I have to get back and find my son before he ODs on the 40 00:05:27,990 --> 00:05:29,330 donut. All right? 41 00:05:30,870 --> 00:05:32,230 Oh, Mr. Keeney. 42 00:05:33,010 --> 00:05:34,010 Thanks. 43 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,240 My pleasure. 44 00:05:40,620 --> 00:05:41,620 Hey. 45 00:05:42,620 --> 00:05:45,520 Hey, hey. Court vacated the injunction. The deal's going down. 46 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,060 Takes care of that Christmas bonus. Yeah, I already ran the numbers. 11, 47 00:05:49,060 --> 00:05:49,659 didn't change. 48 00:05:49,660 --> 00:05:51,720 Wow. Looks like the celebration's in order. 49 00:05:52,420 --> 00:05:53,339 Lunch at the club? 50 00:05:53,340 --> 00:05:54,259 Sounds about right. 51 00:05:54,260 --> 00:05:57,600 All right, let me make sure I'm free. Um, sir, any reason I can't go for 52 00:05:58,300 --> 00:05:59,720 You've got Omnitech 230. 53 00:06:01,060 --> 00:06:03,340 230. Got it. Um, we'll be at the club. 54 00:06:03,820 --> 00:06:04,820 Lay off the red meat. 55 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,700 My name is Louie Wilkinson, and I'm here to see you. I was supposed to be 56 00:06:07,700 --> 00:06:08,860 cutting that red meat myself. 57 00:06:09,380 --> 00:06:12,540 It's just behind me. They got sticks at the club I have dreams about. Can we 58 00:06:12,540 --> 00:06:15,560 still put together a case for infringement on the, uh, Omnitech 59 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:18,840 What? I'm sorry. 60 00:06:19,260 --> 00:06:20,260 Oh, we're bringing action. 61 00:06:20,580 --> 00:06:23,100 Omnitech. Oh, no, no, no. I won't be that serious. 62 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:24,360 Listen, 63 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,080 um, why don't you go ahead and get a table? I'll catch up to you. I gotta 64 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,080 care of something. We're fine. 65 00:06:33,660 --> 00:06:34,660 That's insurance. 66 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:35,680 Okay, Claire. 67 00:06:36,620 --> 00:06:37,620 She does not. 68 00:06:43,020 --> 00:06:46,640 I should have called for an appointment, but he just said to come by, that it 69 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:47,640 would only take a minute. 70 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,940 I... Oh, hi. 71 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,160 Your secretary said that you were... Okay, change of plans. Come on in. 72 00:06:59,540 --> 00:07:01,660 And the name of the insurance company, Miss Wilkins? 73 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:07,280 Um, before we get any further, can I just ask about how much this might be? 74 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:09,860 exactly. Don't worry, there's no charge. 75 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,140 Uh, the name of the insurance company? 76 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:13,480 I have it right here. 77 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,120 I have a policy. 78 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:22,900 Sarah, could you get me Serenity Insurance, please, the, uh, claim 79 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,460 Okay. When did your daughter die, Ms., um, sorry, Luann? 80 00:07:28,020 --> 00:07:29,020 April 2nd. 81 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,740 And was there a physician attending? 82 00:07:35,100 --> 00:07:39,000 Oh, she wasn't ill, Mr. Keeney. She fell off a cliff. 83 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:46,940 She was staying with an older couple in California, and they went sightseeing 84 00:07:46,940 --> 00:07:48,800 by the ocean, I think. 85 00:07:49,100 --> 00:07:53,040 Apparently there were some cliffs, and... I've got Mr. Delph at Serenity 86 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,040 Insurance. 87 00:07:55,540 --> 00:08:00,820 Mr. Delph, Steve Keeney. I'm an attorney with Barnett and Alessio, and I'm here 88 00:08:00,820 --> 00:08:01,820 with my client. 89 00:08:01,900 --> 00:08:05,580 Luann Wilkins, who has a policy with your company. 90 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,020 Oh, you're familiar with it. Good. 91 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,560 Listen, it was a terrible loss, you know, and the funeral expenses on a 92 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,780 teacher's salary, well, I'd just like to expedite the payment. 93 00:08:17,620 --> 00:08:18,620 Oh. 94 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:20,360 Okay. 95 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,200 Good. Thank you very much. 96 00:08:24,900 --> 00:08:27,880 Sarah, could you give me the sheriff's office in Monterey, California, please, 97 00:08:27,940 --> 00:08:28,940 of Deputy O 'Grady? 98 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,350 Um... It seems the problem isn't the insurance company. It's the paperwork in 99 00:08:34,350 --> 00:08:35,350 Monterey. 100 00:08:35,809 --> 00:08:36,929 Deputy O 'Grady. 101 00:08:37,309 --> 00:08:38,309 Okay. 102 00:08:38,909 --> 00:08:39,909 Deputy O 'Grady. 103 00:08:40,950 --> 00:08:43,830 Hi, it's Steve Keeney. I'm a lawyer here in Louisville, Kentucky. 104 00:08:44,510 --> 00:08:50,210 I represent Luann Wilkins, and her daughter died in an accident a few 105 00:08:50,210 --> 00:08:52,110 on April 2nd of fall. 106 00:08:53,930 --> 00:08:55,470 Yes, that's right. 107 00:08:56,810 --> 00:08:57,810 Well... 108 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,220 We've been having some trouble with the insurance, and we tracked it down, and 109 00:09:01,220 --> 00:09:02,680 it turns out the bottleneck's at your end. 110 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,960 No, no, no, there's nothing like that. 111 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:09,020 Are you sure you're looking at the right case? 112 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:11,660 She didn't have life insurance. 113 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,060 Yeah, right, a fall. 114 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,980 How many people do you have falling off cliffs out there? 115 00:09:20,020 --> 00:09:22,260 Now, listen, no, I checked it out. 116 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,340 It's not life insurance. It's a burial policy. 117 00:09:27,020 --> 00:09:30,100 No, a Kentucky policy. I represent the mother. 118 00:09:32,740 --> 00:09:36,920 No, it's not American Provincial. It's not life insurance. Uh 119 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,000 -huh. 120 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:42,760 Okay. 121 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,300 Listen, can I call you back? 122 00:09:46,980 --> 00:09:47,980 Thank you. 123 00:09:51,340 --> 00:09:52,640 Was your daughter engaged? 124 00:09:53,820 --> 00:09:55,100 No, of course not. 125 00:09:55,820 --> 00:09:59,480 They haven't issued the death certificate because the coroner hasn't 126 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,340 his investigation into your daughter's death. 127 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,520 I don't understand. 128 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,520 Neither do I. But apparently they're getting calls from American Provincial. 129 00:10:07,540 --> 00:10:13,140 Your daughter had a $35 ,000 life insurance policy, and the beneficiary 130 00:10:13,140 --> 00:10:14,140 fiancé. 131 00:10:15,180 --> 00:10:16,500 Well, that's not possible. 132 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,260 Does the name James Coates mean anything to you? 133 00:10:21,580 --> 00:10:26,120 No. The secondary beneficiaries were B .J. and Virginia McGinnis. 134 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:27,660 How about those names? 135 00:10:30,100 --> 00:10:33,020 Those were the people she was staying with when she died. 136 00:10:39,380 --> 00:10:43,480 The Court TV movie, Death Benefit, will return in a moment. 137 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,140 This Memorial Day weekend, Court TV keeps you in suspense. 138 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,000 Tell me what's going on! on? With five movies. 139 00:10:51,220 --> 00:10:53,840 What do we got? Based on novels readers just couldn't... 140 00:10:53,840 --> 00:11:04,160 No, 141 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,600 I don't think I can get in there by three. 142 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,100 I said late afternoon. 143 00:11:10,100 --> 00:11:11,360 You'll have them by five, all right? 144 00:11:13,940 --> 00:11:14,940 Dad, where do I go? 145 00:11:22,830 --> 00:11:25,030 third level you said 10 30 come on 146 00:11:25,030 --> 00:11:31,810 no no no 147 00:11:31,810 --> 00:11:37,130 that's not that's not what we agreed on no no we can do better than that rod 148 00:11:37,130 --> 00:11:41,790 come on i mean we can take the case to trial but but it's not non -infectious 149 00:11:41,790 --> 00:11:46,650 interest and it's certainly not in ours no 150 00:11:47,500 --> 00:11:50,620 No, we're standing firm on this, all right? We're standing firm on this. 151 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,020 Nope, that's not what was said in the meeting. 152 00:11:53,660 --> 00:11:54,900 I don't have to check my notes. 153 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,600 Look, 7 .5 is more than adequate compensation for failing to disclose 154 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:00,600 liabilities. 155 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,300 Well, then they shouldn't have invested. 156 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:08,580 Look, I... No, no. 157 00:12:12,380 --> 00:12:15,100 All right, fine, fine, fine. But it's got to be the first thing up tomorrow. 158 00:12:16,570 --> 00:12:17,570 Yeah. 159 00:12:17,910 --> 00:12:18,910 Okay. 160 00:12:20,670 --> 00:12:21,670 All right, bye. 161 00:12:24,410 --> 00:12:25,410 Hungry? 162 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,240 Be quick. 163 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,340 Have I had a change of clothes? 164 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,280 So why don't you just keep some things here? 165 00:13:51,170 --> 00:13:54,730 And I could not for the life of me remember her name or where I knew her 166 00:13:54,750 --> 00:13:56,390 and I was just blank. 167 00:13:57,330 --> 00:13:58,330 It was embarrassing. 168 00:13:59,170 --> 00:14:00,230 It's just not like me. 169 00:14:00,710 --> 00:14:02,110 Her daughter fell off a cliff. 170 00:14:05,370 --> 00:14:06,370 Oh, my God. 171 00:14:08,710 --> 00:14:09,710 California. 172 00:14:10,690 --> 00:14:13,450 She was staying with a couple that were there with her when it happened. 173 00:14:14,810 --> 00:14:16,610 Apparently, they have life insurance on her. 174 00:14:18,510 --> 00:14:20,730 Well, those don't sound like the kind of people you should be involved with. 175 00:14:25,210 --> 00:14:26,210 Yeah. 176 00:14:36,550 --> 00:14:41,850 You wrote her the letter, whatever it was you were going to do, so... You 177 00:14:49,930 --> 00:14:51,950 Don't forget we have dinner with Rodericks on Wednesday. 178 00:14:53,590 --> 00:14:54,590 Bye. 179 00:14:58,130 --> 00:15:00,970 Oh, yeah, I should have been out of here ten minutes ago, but it's rather slow 180 00:15:00,970 --> 00:15:01,970 going. 181 00:15:03,310 --> 00:15:06,510 Oh, here comes the head snail slurring down the hallway as we speak. 182 00:15:19,050 --> 00:15:20,050 You found anything yet? 183 00:15:20,290 --> 00:15:22,810 Yes. I found the filter and the coffee. 184 00:15:23,150 --> 00:15:27,350 Then I put the filter in the pot, put the coffee in the filter, filled the pot 185 00:15:27,350 --> 00:15:31,230 with water, and then delivered the cup of coffee that I have placed in front of 186 00:15:31,230 --> 00:15:36,410 you. Now I will take these same two hands, the only two I've got, and see if 187 00:15:36,410 --> 00:15:37,490 can find your information. 188 00:15:43,090 --> 00:15:44,110 Can I call you back? 189 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:53,560 Thank you. 190 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,820 So apparently there are two applications. 191 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,320 One for Melissa Wilkins and one for Mr. McGinnis. 192 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,080 Apparently. 193 00:16:16,460 --> 00:16:18,480 Listen, I'm wondering if you can help me here. 194 00:16:19,020 --> 00:16:22,300 I know your experience and expertise in these matters far exceeds mine. 195 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:27,720 Thank you. 196 00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:31,540 The one for Mr. McGinnis was rejected. 197 00:16:31,740 --> 00:16:33,040 He's in very poor health. 198 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,160 Melissa's policy was approved. 199 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,360 So say who applied for these? 200 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,880 Mr. and Mrs. McGinnis. But the girl signed the application. 201 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,420 Well, that doesn't really solve my problem. She wasn't related to the 202 00:16:46,420 --> 00:16:48,700 McGinnises. So how are they her beneficiaries? 203 00:16:49,500 --> 00:16:50,500 Secondary beneficiaries. 204 00:16:50,780 --> 00:16:54,220 The primary beneficiary was their son, James Coates. 205 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,280 Apparently he was engaged to Ms. Wilkins. There's some question about 206 00:16:59,220 --> 00:17:02,080 I suppose it says if he was there when the applications were made, was he? 207 00:17:05,180 --> 00:17:08,760 From these records, he appears to have been in prison at the time. 208 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,660 So how's the weather in Monterey? 209 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,599 It's fine, Mr. Keeney. 210 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,680 Uh, so listen, my client and I are still waiting for that death certificate. 211 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,680 The certificate's going to be long, Counselor. 212 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:24,960 What doesn't it sound like? 213 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:29,820 What are you trying to tell me? 214 00:17:33,180 --> 00:17:39,080 I don't know. 215 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:42,060 We had to question the McGinnises about the accident. 216 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,560 Did they see the fall? Did they hear anything? 217 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,060 It's just normal procedure. 218 00:17:47,590 --> 00:17:50,110 And when she answered, she was very cool and detached. 219 00:17:51,250 --> 00:17:53,050 And then I asked if she had any insurance. 220 00:17:56,350 --> 00:18:00,070 No, no. You mean like life insurance? There was nothing like that. 221 00:18:00,830 --> 00:18:06,090 We didn't hear a sound. 222 00:18:06,910 --> 00:18:12,150 We turned around and she was gone. 223 00:18:27,310 --> 00:18:30,990 The Court TV movie, Death Benefits, will return in a moment. 224 00:18:32,130 --> 00:18:36,590 This Memorial Day. It's a profiler marathon on Court TV. An entire day 225 00:18:36,590 --> 00:18:41,030 Tracy Lourdes and TV's most twisted love triangle. He loves me. Jack. He loves 226 00:18:41,030 --> 00:18:41,729 me not. 227 00:18:41,730 --> 00:18:46,150 A profiler Memorial Day marathon, starting at 9 a .m. 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At least until someone can tell us what actually 273 00:22:17,730 --> 00:22:19,110 What do you mean, what actually happened? 274 00:22:21,670 --> 00:22:22,670 I don't know. 275 00:22:23,930 --> 00:22:25,150 Are you saying they killed her? 276 00:22:25,530 --> 00:22:27,270 No, no, no, no. I don't know. 277 00:22:27,490 --> 00:22:28,490 Come on. 278 00:22:33,870 --> 00:22:35,910 May I help you? This one, Mr. Keeney? Yeah. 279 00:22:36,690 --> 00:22:37,690 Can I sign that? 280 00:22:41,950 --> 00:22:42,950 Thank you. 281 00:22:45,250 --> 00:22:47,150 I've been waiting for her. What is it? 282 00:22:47,950 --> 00:22:48,950 Autopsy report. 283 00:22:54,970 --> 00:22:56,810 Can you fix the speeding ticket? 284 00:22:58,130 --> 00:22:59,130 No. 285 00:22:59,390 --> 00:23:00,390 You owe me then. 286 00:23:01,490 --> 00:23:02,490 What have we got? 287 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,080 It's not that far out of line from what you'd expect with a fall victim. 288 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,380 She seems to have taken amitriptyline. 289 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:10,920 Which is? 290 00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:13,240 Antidepressant. Make you drowsy. 291 00:23:13,460 --> 00:23:16,700 If you're not used to it, it can make you pretty damn dizzy, too, depending on 292 00:23:16,700 --> 00:23:17,700 how much she had. 293 00:23:18,060 --> 00:23:19,900 All this says is presence. 294 00:23:20,860 --> 00:23:23,900 We would never get away with that in an autopsy here in Louisville. 295 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,320 You know, you ever want to kill anyone? 296 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,840 Like an ex or someone? 297 00:23:33,790 --> 00:23:37,030 You ought to give serious thought to sending him out a window or down a 298 00:23:37,030 --> 00:23:38,030 or a cliff. 299 00:23:39,070 --> 00:23:39,849 Why's that? 300 00:23:39,850 --> 00:23:41,970 Well, shoot someone, there are holes. 301 00:23:42,190 --> 00:23:43,430 Strangle them, there's marks. 302 00:23:43,790 --> 00:23:45,130 Poison, we find the poison. 303 00:23:46,050 --> 00:23:50,730 But a fall, you hit bottom, gravity doesn't care how you got there. 304 00:23:51,050 --> 00:23:53,050 You look the same whether you were pushed or you fell. 305 00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:56,410 Even if we suspect something, we usually can't prove it. 306 00:23:56,690 --> 00:23:57,690 Uh -huh. 307 00:23:59,850 --> 00:24:01,210 I don't know, this is interesting. 308 00:24:01,670 --> 00:24:02,670 Take a look. 309 00:24:04,290 --> 00:24:05,650 What? Her hand. 310 00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:08,570 You get scratches over here, bruises on the back. 311 00:24:09,810 --> 00:24:11,470 Practically all of her fingernails are ripped out. 312 00:24:13,950 --> 00:24:16,610 Not many dead bodies in your kind of law, I guess. 313 00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:18,190 What's it mean? 314 00:24:18,270 --> 00:24:24,510 Oh, scratches on her palms. That's what you'd get if you were holding on or you 315 00:24:24,510 --> 00:24:26,590 grabbed her something on the way down. 316 00:24:26,790 --> 00:24:28,990 Bruises on the back of the hands, classic defensive wounds. 317 00:24:30,110 --> 00:24:31,110 I don't know. 318 00:24:32,030 --> 00:24:33,590 Maybe somebody stepped on her hand. 319 00:24:36,490 --> 00:24:37,490 Wow. 320 00:24:37,710 --> 00:24:38,970 Think somebody killed him? 321 00:24:39,730 --> 00:24:40,750 Bet they did. 322 00:24:42,070 --> 00:24:43,990 That is so cruel. 323 00:24:44,970 --> 00:24:46,430 What have you been telling him? 324 00:24:46,810 --> 00:24:48,270 My father's not that kind of boy. 325 00:24:48,490 --> 00:24:49,550 Don't you have some homework to do? 326 00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:50,830 She's probably done it. 327 00:24:51,250 --> 00:24:52,670 Hey, come on, now. 328 00:24:52,970 --> 00:24:53,970 Go. 329 00:24:57,050 --> 00:24:59,410 I think he's already got someone picked out to play me in the movie. 330 00:24:59,750 --> 00:25:00,810 Isn't it funny, Steven? 331 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,560 They say enough murder and mayhem on television, and now we're talking about 332 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,120 morgues and scratches on dead bodies. 333 00:25:09,340 --> 00:25:11,280 I just like to tell them what I'm doing, that's all. 334 00:25:11,500 --> 00:25:13,840 Really? Did you tell them about the railroad loger? 335 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,820 That's not the point. That's exactly the point. He's trying something exciting 336 00:25:17,820 --> 00:25:20,500 about being mixed up in this prison. A little incident. I mean, you heard him, 337 00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:21,459 Stephen, didn't you? 338 00:25:21,460 --> 00:25:25,200 A girl gets pushed off a cliff, and he thinks that's so cool. 339 00:25:25,460 --> 00:25:26,179 Who said cool? 340 00:25:26,180 --> 00:25:27,460 The wrong word. He's a kid. 341 00:25:27,660 --> 00:25:28,660 I'm not talking about words. 342 00:25:28,740 --> 00:25:29,740 No, you're not. 343 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:34,100 We canceled on Broderick's last Wednesday. 344 00:25:34,740 --> 00:25:35,740 That's fine. 345 00:25:36,020 --> 00:25:38,920 Patty and Bill enjoyed our theater tickets last time. I can get more 346 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,920 Father Montgomery came up to me after the auxiliary luncheon today and asked 347 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:42,899 everything was all right. 348 00:25:42,900 --> 00:25:44,940 She said you postponed two meetings with Rod. 349 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,960 I'm just trying to help a client. 350 00:25:47,220 --> 00:25:48,740 I thought it was just supposed to be a letter. 351 00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:50,039 Well, it isn't. 352 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,660 Well, what is it, then? A homicide investigation? 353 00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:55,520 I don't think we can rule that out. 354 00:25:55,860 --> 00:25:57,340 And I don't think you're a homicide detective. 355 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,980 You may be enjoying this, but I don't think you know what you're doing. 356 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:02,960 Really? Yes, really. 357 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,800 You may be right, but I don't think anyone else knows what they're doing 358 00:26:08,620 --> 00:26:11,380 And if this girl had been a debutante, the authorities would have been all over 359 00:26:11,380 --> 00:26:12,560 this case, but she wasn't. 360 00:26:14,060 --> 00:26:17,840 I mean, no one seems to care what happened to her, except her mother, who 361 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,920 to me in church and asked me to help her, which is what I'm trying to do. 362 00:26:30,190 --> 00:26:31,190 Just carry it. 363 00:26:35,770 --> 00:26:38,110 Well, double roll. 364 00:26:44,410 --> 00:26:45,410 Pretty girl. 365 00:26:46,510 --> 00:26:47,510 Yeah, she is. 366 00:26:48,110 --> 00:26:49,130 Look at those shoes. 367 00:26:49,470 --> 00:26:52,310 She was climbing rocks in high heels. I guess that's why she fell. 368 00:26:54,330 --> 00:26:55,650 Must be the McGinnises. 369 00:26:57,790 --> 00:26:59,030 Melissa must have taken it. 370 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,040 I'm feeling a little tired. 371 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,280 I'm a triplet. 372 00:27:02,380 --> 00:27:05,040 Makes you drowsy. It was in her system. 373 00:27:12,860 --> 00:27:13,860 The hell? 374 00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:15,120 Where's he looking? 375 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,680 He's checking the road. 376 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:21,920 Nothing. 377 00:27:40,780 --> 00:27:42,500 and I want you to call Virginia McGinnis. 378 00:28:04,380 --> 00:28:05,380 Yes. 379 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:10,120 Mrs. McGinnis. 380 00:28:10,510 --> 00:28:12,690 This is Lou Anne Wilkins in Louisville. 381 00:28:13,490 --> 00:28:14,490 Melissa's mother. 382 00:28:14,610 --> 00:28:15,610 How are you doing? 383 00:28:17,210 --> 00:28:20,130 Oh, yes, of course. Pretty good. How are you? 384 00:28:20,730 --> 00:28:24,210 Well, sometimes good and sometimes bad, you know. 385 00:28:25,450 --> 00:28:26,750 After you lose a daughter. 386 00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:31,070 Yeah, I've been there. I can't say the hurt will ever go away. 387 00:28:35,670 --> 00:28:38,710 I'm just trying to get clear in my mind that... 388 00:28:39,490 --> 00:28:42,110 When she fell, did you hear anything? 389 00:28:45,070 --> 00:28:46,570 We never heard a sound. 390 00:28:47,530 --> 00:28:51,730 I had taken the last picture of Melissa and BJ, but that's my husband. 391 00:28:52,050 --> 00:28:56,050 We were getting cold, so we started back to the car, BJ and I. 392 00:28:56,710 --> 00:29:00,030 We looked back, and she was gone. 393 00:29:02,290 --> 00:29:03,950 We'd done a lot of sightseeing. 394 00:29:04,330 --> 00:29:07,490 We'd stopped three, four different times. 395 00:29:08,590 --> 00:29:12,930 Melissa always wanted to gawk and look. Oh, look, look, look, she'd say. 396 00:29:14,190 --> 00:29:19,570 Periodically, the sun would break through and make these little rainbows 397 00:29:19,570 --> 00:29:21,070 that just fascinated her. 398 00:29:22,270 --> 00:29:23,270 Oh, yes. 399 00:29:24,890 --> 00:29:29,230 Uh, I was wondering, do you have any other pictures of Melissa? 400 00:29:29,790 --> 00:29:32,370 I got the ones... That were in the camera, yes. 401 00:29:32,890 --> 00:29:34,110 No, that's all I had. 402 00:29:34,430 --> 00:29:37,690 And those... Where were those? 403 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,760 I mean, was that where she fell? 404 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,400 Some of them. 405 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:45,840 Where she fell? 406 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:48,680 Yes. 407 00:29:52,380 --> 00:29:56,420 You know, the autopsy said that they found some kind of drug. 408 00:29:59,220 --> 00:30:00,220 Amitriptyline. 409 00:30:00,620 --> 00:30:02,660 They said that she had that in her body. 410 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,840 Well, I wouldn't know anything about that. 411 00:30:05,860 --> 00:30:07,180 Now, BJ had her. 412 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,620 Prescription for that after some surgery, but maybe she took one by 413 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,280 Yes. 414 00:30:13,660 --> 00:30:15,660 I suppose that could be. 415 00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:21,720 The other thing I was wondering about, they said that, you know, that Melissa 416 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,780 had taken out a life insurance policy. 417 00:30:25,260 --> 00:30:28,660 There was nothing to that, really. 418 00:30:29,060 --> 00:30:31,400 It was just a nominal sum. 419 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,840 It came about in the silliest way. 420 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,640 BJ. 421 00:30:37,050 --> 00:30:39,090 needed to increase his insurance. 422 00:30:39,810 --> 00:30:44,270 So we went down to apply to the insurance office. And while we were 423 00:30:44,290 --> 00:30:48,690 Melissa said, what about me and my chopped liver? Well, we just laughed. 424 00:30:49,090 --> 00:30:51,350 Insurance at your age? I mean, what do you need it for? 425 00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:55,410 And the salesman was the agent, the insurance agent. 426 00:30:55,670 --> 00:31:00,050 He said that at her age, he wished that somebody had urged him to take out a 427 00:31:00,050 --> 00:31:04,250 policy because it's so cheap being that age. 428 00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:05,630 So we did. 429 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,560 So as I was saying, we never heard a sound. 430 00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:13,220 We never heard a gasp. 431 00:31:13,460 --> 00:31:14,680 We never heard anything. 432 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,760 Nothing. 433 00:31:17,140 --> 00:31:19,540 If it makes you feel better. 434 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,320 Or if it makes you feel worse. 435 00:31:27,260 --> 00:31:28,960 Thank you for talking with me. 436 00:31:32,140 --> 00:31:33,140 Goodbye. 437 00:31:51,820 --> 00:31:52,820 The Court TV. 438 00:31:54,260 --> 00:31:55,260 Hey! 439 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,460 Where are you going? We've got a meeting. 440 00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,560 Okay. 441 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,300 What? We've got a flat in California. 442 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:06,940 We've got a flat in California. We've got a flat in California. 443 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,760 Don't listen to me and do what that school teacher used to do. 444 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,120 No, no. Pro bono is a dirty word, my friend. I don't know how to find back. 445 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,400 A $2 ,000 claim? I regulated my own damn personal check. 446 00:32:18,940 --> 00:32:20,880 No, it is about the money. 447 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,280 You know, more importantly, I had to take a pass on the golf outing at 448 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,420 because I've been busy covering your butt the last six months. Come on. 449 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,080 All right, look. 450 00:32:31,420 --> 00:32:33,440 I'm going to take care of this thing in a day. Two tops. 451 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:34,800 I'm back. 452 00:33:16,270 --> 00:33:17,270 There we go. 453 00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:21,210 Okay. You know, what is the spur of the moment thing? You know, they have been 454 00:33:21,210 --> 00:33:22,330 in here a couple of times before. 455 00:33:22,890 --> 00:33:23,890 They? 456 00:33:24,090 --> 00:33:25,090 Yeah. 457 00:33:25,630 --> 00:33:27,690 Mrs. McGinnis, her husband, and the girl. 458 00:33:28,490 --> 00:33:32,350 Something about insuring the girl so she could get a visa to go to Mexico or 459 00:33:32,350 --> 00:33:33,590 something like that. I didn't really understand. 460 00:33:34,750 --> 00:33:35,950 And nothing came of that? 461 00:33:36,930 --> 00:33:39,410 No. It wasn't exactly... 462 00:33:39,740 --> 00:33:41,340 Pushing for the sale, if you know what I mean. 463 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,800 No, I don't. 464 00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:46,440 The man was in poor health. He had emphysema. They had to know we couldn't 465 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,440 a policy on it. 466 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,520 But there was no problem writing a policy on the girl. 467 00:33:51,060 --> 00:33:53,800 Well, small policy, $35 ,000. 468 00:33:54,420 --> 00:33:56,720 Easier to just push it right on through, if you know what I mean. 469 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,320 Still, it just didn't sit right. Insuring a child that's not your child. 470 00:34:02,460 --> 00:34:06,840 They said that the girl was their son's prospective fiancé. Now, what in the 471 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,280 hell is that supposed to mean? 472 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,280 My client, when she was speaking with Mrs. 473 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,960 McGinnis, said something about how difficult it was to lose a daughter. 474 00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:18,880 And Mrs. McGinnis said I'd been there. 475 00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:22,800 Nothing but the boys that I know of. They'd both been in prison. 476 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,940 Ronnie was in for burglary or something like that, and the other one was in for 477 00:34:28,940 --> 00:34:29,940 murder. 478 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,120 Did Mrs. 479 00:34:32,179 --> 00:34:33,800 McGinnis pay the premiums? 480 00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:36,659 There was just one, $68 .10. 481 00:34:38,030 --> 00:34:41,790 We issued the policy on April the 1st. The girl died on the 2nd. 482 00:35:37,290 --> 00:35:38,290 Can I help you? 483 00:35:39,890 --> 00:35:46,410 I... No, I, um... I was just 484 00:35:46,410 --> 00:35:48,050 looking at your house. 485 00:35:49,450 --> 00:35:50,450 Why? 486 00:35:53,330 --> 00:35:54,610 Are you in real estate? 487 00:35:56,770 --> 00:35:58,230 I'm interested in the neighborhood. 488 00:35:59,950 --> 00:36:01,670 Really? Mm -hmm. 489 00:36:04,490 --> 00:36:06,850 Actually, we're thinking about... 490 00:36:07,150 --> 00:36:08,150 Selling. 491 00:36:10,170 --> 00:36:12,970 Why don't you come in and you give me an appraisal? 492 00:36:15,350 --> 00:36:16,350 Come on. 493 00:36:33,150 --> 00:36:36,250 Well, what's it worth? 494 00:36:37,790 --> 00:36:39,130 You're modifying. 495 00:36:39,710 --> 00:36:40,970 Look around. 496 00:36:50,670 --> 00:36:51,730 Hi. 497 00:36:52,950 --> 00:36:54,010 Hello. 498 00:36:55,510 --> 00:36:56,930 What's the score? 499 00:37:05,390 --> 00:37:08,070 I understand you're selling your house. 500 00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:15,050 Is that what Virginia said? It's time for my husband's medication. 501 00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:20,530 I'm a registered nurse, you know. 502 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,280 It's just a bedroom. 503 00:37:50,020 --> 00:37:51,180 Your daughter's room? 504 00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:53,280 I don't have a daughter. 505 00:37:58,260 --> 00:37:59,580 How's the closet space? 506 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,620 What's your name? 507 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:04,920 Keeney. 508 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,200 Steven. 509 00:38:09,020 --> 00:38:10,020 What's it worth? 510 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,000 It's hard to say. I have to go back to my office and check the comms in the 511 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,000 neighborhood first. 512 00:38:17,580 --> 00:38:20,320 Well, give me your card so I can call you. I don't have a card. 513 00:38:22,060 --> 00:38:24,080 What company are you with? I mean, where's your office? 514 00:38:24,940 --> 00:38:25,940 I don't have an office. 515 00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:33,540 Who the hell are you? 516 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,520 You're with those insurance people, aren't you? 517 00:38:42,730 --> 00:38:43,870 What are you guys up to? 518 00:38:44,170 --> 00:38:45,550 And when do I get my money? 519 00:38:48,330 --> 00:38:49,690 I don't make that decision. 520 00:38:51,810 --> 00:38:54,670 I think you'd better leave. 521 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,760 So interesting in that menu. 522 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,520 Have you ever had anything but steak here? 523 00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:28,900 Well, 524 00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:33,160 anyway, the floors in the living room looked absolutely beautiful after I had 525 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,160 them resanded. 526 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:39,080 But they were so old that when we moved the piano in, it went right through the 527 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,220 floor. Well, I could barely get the courage to tell Sidney because she loved 528 00:39:42,220 --> 00:39:43,220 what I did so much. 529 00:39:43,820 --> 00:39:48,200 So, Buckley comes home, and you know he always had a few cocktails on the way. 530 00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:50,470 Well, he doesn't say a word. 531 00:39:51,450 --> 00:39:53,770 Just sits down at the piano and starts to play. 532 00:39:54,430 --> 00:39:58,970 So, he finishes playing, gets up, looks at the piano and says, 533 00:39:59,870 --> 00:40:02,150 Is this piano out of tune? 534 00:40:05,810 --> 00:40:07,190 We laughed so hard. 535 00:40:14,730 --> 00:40:15,950 Sweetheart. I'm sorry. 536 00:40:23,150 --> 00:40:24,270 It's just nothing changes. 537 00:40:25,050 --> 00:40:26,330 I mean, it's been months. 538 00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:30,570 It's like they know something happened, but they don't want to know. Not for $35 539 00:40:30,570 --> 00:40:33,910 ,000. Please, not tonight. What are you going to have? 540 00:40:34,130 --> 00:40:35,270 Listen to me for a minute. 541 00:40:36,970 --> 00:40:38,790 There may be another dead child. 542 00:40:39,890 --> 00:40:40,890 Her own. 543 00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:45,990 We're finally out together. Let's just have a good time. 544 00:40:46,730 --> 00:40:48,490 People are starting to talk. 545 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,740 People are starting to talk? That's your reaction? 546 00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:57,840 I've seen this woman. She did it. Well, you don't know that. I think I do. 547 00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,840 I don't want to talk about it. Well, I need to talk about it. 548 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,760 Look, I'm sorry. I don't know for sure that there was a murder. But this woman 549 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,580 was taking care of my client's child. And that child is dead. Are you 550 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,280 Are you listening at all? 551 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,760 Mothers don't go around killing their children, Stephen. What is wrong with 552 00:41:17,940 --> 00:41:19,840 Of course it happens. Everything happens. 553 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,480 to normal people. 554 00:41:22,060 --> 00:41:23,540 What? A girl fell. 555 00:41:24,020 --> 00:41:27,300 And maybe the woman taking care of her had some other tragedy in her life. Most 556 00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:30,160 people would feel sorry for her. Now, why don't you, Stephen? 557 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,520 Why does it start you thinking about murder and people killing their own 558 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,460 children? And, honey, what does this have to do with us anyway? 559 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:40,840 With us? 560 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,040 This is us. 561 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:45,640 Everything's perfect. 562 00:41:46,890 --> 00:41:49,890 And things like what happened to Melissa Wilkins don't happen to our friends, 563 00:41:49,950 --> 00:41:50,950 except they do happen. 564 00:41:51,530 --> 00:41:54,850 And I can't just walk away and say it couldn't have happened because it could 565 00:41:54,850 --> 00:41:55,850 have happened. 566 00:42:01,870 --> 00:42:02,870 Hey. 567 00:42:06,330 --> 00:42:07,430 I want you back. 568 00:42:09,550 --> 00:42:12,850 I want our life back. 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Graham. 636 00:46:59,900 --> 00:47:00,900 Come on in. 637 00:47:01,620 --> 00:47:05,260 The little girl's name was Cynthia. She was five years old. 638 00:47:07,060 --> 00:47:09,240 I had just started the job then. 639 00:47:09,700 --> 00:47:11,400 Maybe 15 years ago. 640 00:47:11,900 --> 00:47:13,820 You still got her file in your office? 641 00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:17,470 Yeah. 642 00:47:18,030 --> 00:47:20,350 I don't know if we ever really got to the bottom of it. 643 00:47:22,030 --> 00:47:24,830 Um... He dropped us. 644 00:47:27,610 --> 00:47:29,390 That's the rope the little girl was hanged with. 645 00:47:33,790 --> 00:47:37,550 It was a terrible day. It was gray and drizzling, barely above freezing. 646 00:47:38,250 --> 00:47:40,550 I was on patrol in the car, and I got a call. 647 00:47:41,150 --> 00:47:43,110 Come out to an accident at the Reardon Farm. 648 00:47:43,570 --> 00:47:45,030 Well, I pull up here at the barn. 649 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,740 Virginia was standing out here in the rain. 650 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,320 The only way I could make sense out of it is the little girl climbed up on the 651 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,100 tractor and got caught on the rope. 652 00:47:56,260 --> 00:47:57,620 There wasn't anyone else around? 653 00:47:58,240 --> 00:47:59,580 The boys were all in school. 654 00:48:00,100 --> 00:48:01,100 Cynthia wasn't. 655 00:48:01,340 --> 00:48:02,520 Well, we looked into that. 656 00:48:03,180 --> 00:48:04,660 The child had a pony. 657 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,560 Virginia took her out to ride. 658 00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:11,440 She wasn't feeling good that morning. 659 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,020 But she still rode her pony. 660 00:48:16,650 --> 00:48:17,690 I didn't see the house. 661 00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:19,390 Where's the house? 662 00:48:19,890 --> 00:48:22,050 House burned clean to the ground a couple months later. 663 00:49:14,610 --> 00:49:15,610 Hey, it's Keeney. 664 00:49:16,330 --> 00:49:18,830 I think I have something that might help us reopen this thing. 665 00:49:19,210 --> 00:49:22,730 All right, just hold on a minute, Keeney. I've got the McGinnises right 666 00:49:22,730 --> 00:49:23,730 my office. 667 00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:25,950 They're in your office? 668 00:49:26,170 --> 00:49:30,790 It's been eight months, and we have answered every question that we have 669 00:49:30,790 --> 00:49:32,630 asked. You haven't answered mine. 670 00:49:33,830 --> 00:49:35,350 How's the real estate business? 671 00:49:35,610 --> 00:49:39,870 Look, this is not doing us any good. We're not in any position... Wait a 672 00:49:40,750 --> 00:49:43,910 A 19 -year -old girl died. You want to talk to me about position? What's the 673 00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:44,910 matter? She wasn't important enough? 674 00:49:45,330 --> 00:49:50,490 From what I am told, Mr. Keeney, you've been instrumental in keeping this so 675 00:49:50,490 --> 00:49:51,970 -called investigation alive. 676 00:49:52,770 --> 00:49:56,810 I've just informed the deputy and the DA's office that they have two choices. 677 00:49:57,030 --> 00:50:01,030 Either they can bring charges, which they assure me that they are not 678 00:50:01,030 --> 00:50:03,570 to do, or we can close this case. 679 00:50:04,250 --> 00:50:07,410 Otherwise, I am filing suit for... 680 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,940 Wrongful denial of benefits. 681 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:17,520 And I am naming you and your client as defendants. Bring on the charges. 682 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,860 The fact is, that girl fell. 683 00:50:26,420 --> 00:50:30,220 And there is no way that you can prove that it happened any different than from 684 00:50:30,220 --> 00:50:31,220 what I say. 685 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:36,340 And correct me if I am wrong, but as far as Monterey County is concerned... 686 00:50:38,380 --> 00:50:41,120 There's no further reason to keep this case open. 687 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,180 Christian, turn that thing off now. 688 00:51:07,660 --> 00:51:11,320 The Court TV movie, Death Benefit, will return in a moment. 689 00:51:12,580 --> 00:51:14,840 To most people, a wad of gum. 690 00:51:15,060 --> 00:51:19,400 But to a forensic odontologist, a critical piece of evidence revealing 691 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,720 nationality, even genetic profile. 692 00:51:22,020 --> 00:51:27,100 Find out how on Forensic File, Monday through Thursday at 9 p .m. on Court TV. 693 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,100 Are you tired of overnighters that don't go over well? 694 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,140 Or extra beds that take an extra set of hands just to set up? 695 00:51:43,500 --> 00:51:48,360 Then the Aero Extra Bed in a Minute is your dream come true. 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Are you smart -mouthing me? 730 00:53:53,530 --> 00:53:54,530 No. 731 00:53:54,770 --> 00:53:57,790 You were supposed to be in the bath and ready for bed over an hour ago, right? 732 00:53:58,250 --> 00:53:59,250 That's what I said. 733 00:54:00,230 --> 00:54:01,590 All right, we're trying this now. Hey! 734 00:54:01,850 --> 00:54:05,070 You told me you were getting ready for bed, and I trusted you to do that. And 735 00:54:05,070 --> 00:54:08,150 you told me you'd have time to do something, and I trusted you to do that. 736 00:54:09,330 --> 00:54:10,330 Fine, I'm sorry. 737 00:54:10,830 --> 00:54:11,830 Whatever. 738 00:54:11,890 --> 00:54:12,990 What do you mean, whatever? 739 00:56:44,750 --> 00:56:46,230 I wasn't sure if I should call or not. 740 00:56:48,030 --> 00:56:49,030 Sweetheart. 741 00:56:50,490 --> 00:56:52,370 I just can't get it out of my head. 742 00:56:54,410 --> 00:56:56,090 Now would you call me over to tell me? 743 00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:58,510 No. 744 00:57:00,670 --> 00:57:03,530 I just don't know how anything works anymore. 745 00:57:04,190 --> 00:57:08,290 I don't know the rules. 746 00:57:09,910 --> 00:57:11,370 Maybe it's time to stop. 747 00:57:56,839 --> 00:57:57,839 Hey. 748 00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:58,960 Good morning. 749 00:57:59,220 --> 00:58:01,420 Max Wolf's been trying to reach you. Get him on the line. 750 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,280 And, uh, listen, when you get the chance, maybe you ought to box up all 751 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:05,700 files in Louie and Wilkins' business. 752 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:07,440 Box them? 753 00:58:07,540 --> 00:58:08,680 Yeah, come on, I'm not a cop. 754 00:58:08,940 --> 00:58:11,420 I mean, it's a place in two states, Cam, that gave me a stick. How am I supposed 755 00:58:11,420 --> 00:58:12,420 to? 756 00:58:12,540 --> 00:58:13,540 You sure? 757 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:15,920 Yeah, I'm sure. 758 00:58:29,230 --> 00:58:30,610 We're going to have to revisit the bioclave IPO. 759 00:58:30,970 --> 00:58:33,510 Those 10B5 materials are going to get us blown out of the water. 760 00:58:34,310 --> 00:58:38,810 Okay. Well, maybe the finance is not where it should be, but we'll finesse it 761 00:58:38,810 --> 00:58:39,810 the perspective. 762 00:58:40,050 --> 00:58:43,690 Besides, is the SEC really going to ask about due diligence? 763 00:58:44,210 --> 00:58:46,670 I mean, I've talked to Artie and Gaines McKenna. 764 00:58:47,050 --> 00:58:49,930 He's pretty sure it'll apply, but it's going to have to be a way. 765 00:58:52,010 --> 00:58:54,970 I'm going to have to get back to you on that. 766 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:08,620 We looked at these a hundred times. 767 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,040 We didn't see it. We didn't see it. 768 00:59:10,300 --> 00:59:12,880 If these people are trying to kill Melissa, why did they take pictures? 769 00:59:13,500 --> 00:59:15,440 Because they had to establish they were sightseeing. 770 00:59:16,380 --> 00:59:18,760 They didn't want someone thinking they just dragged her up on a cliff and 771 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:19,678 her off. 772 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:20,680 Here, look at this. 773 00:59:20,900 --> 00:59:21,900 Here. 774 00:59:21,980 --> 00:59:22,980 Look at this. 775 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:24,680 All the way down to her feet. Why? 776 00:59:25,260 --> 00:59:26,880 Because they had to show the high heels. 777 00:59:28,180 --> 00:59:29,180 Okay, come here. 778 00:59:30,020 --> 00:59:31,020 Now look at these. 779 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:32,600 Look at this, this, and this. 780 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:34,840 These are nothing. These are scenery. 781 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,420 Yeah, but look at them here on the disc. What are the negatives? Right there. 782 00:59:38,980 --> 00:59:41,300 They were taken after Melissa fell off the cliff. 783 00:59:42,980 --> 00:59:47,200 Now, Virginia's on record as saying she took the last picture of BJ and Melissa, 784 00:59:47,340 --> 00:59:51,040 then she and BJ walked to the car, didn't hear a sound, turned around, and 785 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,040 Melissa was gone. 786 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,220 Well, and this should be the last picture on the disc. 787 00:59:57,460 --> 01:00:02,520 But she lied. Virginia lied. She stood there taking pictures after. After 788 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:03,640 Melissa fell off the cliff. 789 01:00:05,340 --> 01:00:08,400 I mean, we didn't even look at him. Melissa's not in the picture, so we put 790 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:09,400 aside. 791 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,100 But these are people who will kill for $35 ,000. 792 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,080 She didn't work. He lives on a pension. 793 01:00:15,340 --> 01:00:16,920 I mean, they watch their pennies. 794 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:23,320 And they have habits, too. They eat everything on their plate. They take all 795 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,280 pictures in the roll before they have them developed. 796 01:00:25,980 --> 01:00:30,600 So she takes the damn pictures to stand there. 797 01:00:31,339 --> 01:00:34,420 snapping off pictures before she goes for help. 798 01:00:39,060 --> 01:00:42,140 I thought you were through with this. 799 01:00:45,220 --> 01:00:46,420 That's what I'm trying to do. 800 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,120 I'm trying to get through with it. 801 01:00:57,420 --> 01:01:00,780 Home of a Mr. Coates who was once married to a woman named Virginia. 802 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:07,280 They had two sons named... Well, is there anyone there who could help me? 803 01:01:08,620 --> 01:01:13,860 Do you know of this family? Are you related to them in any... Well, thank 804 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,200 I picked a book out of the library today on serial killers. 805 01:01:19,860 --> 01:01:21,080 They all have similar traits. 806 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,140 Setting fires was one of them. 807 01:01:23,460 --> 01:01:24,960 Her house burned down in Kentucky. 808 01:01:25,610 --> 01:01:26,810 The house burned down in California. 809 01:01:27,570 --> 01:01:28,750 It's two dead children. 810 01:01:29,110 --> 01:01:31,530 Oh, man. How much does it take for one to qualify? 811 01:01:32,750 --> 01:01:35,110 Fortune cookie? 812 01:01:35,410 --> 01:01:36,510 Yeah. Howl. 813 01:01:37,650 --> 01:01:38,650 Good catch. 814 01:01:40,150 --> 01:01:42,510 I got it. I make them. 815 01:01:45,110 --> 01:01:46,310 What the hell's going on here? 816 01:01:48,950 --> 01:01:50,470 Got it. Well. 817 01:01:55,150 --> 01:01:57,050 Oh, thank you. I'm going to finish this later. 818 01:01:59,930 --> 01:02:00,930 Really? 819 01:02:03,470 --> 01:02:05,090 Chinese? No, thanks. 820 01:02:09,710 --> 01:02:10,710 Listen, 821 01:02:15,690 --> 01:02:20,030 Steve, you know, you and I will go back a long way. 822 01:02:21,260 --> 01:02:24,420 If we're out having a couple beers, I'd say, I love you, man. 823 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,540 And I do. 824 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,720 But you are getting way too caught up in this thing. 825 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:32,420 It's not doing you any good. 826 01:02:32,860 --> 01:02:37,000 It's not doing your reputation any good. And it sure as hell is not doing us any 827 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,000 good. 828 01:02:39,300 --> 01:02:40,300 You know me. 829 01:02:40,620 --> 01:02:41,620 You know the firm. 830 01:02:42,780 --> 01:02:44,620 My client's daughter was murdered. 831 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,100 Do yourself a favor. 832 01:02:49,690 --> 01:02:51,790 And get off this kick while you've still got a career. 833 01:02:54,310 --> 01:02:56,430 You remember the sit -in at the student union, huh? 834 01:02:56,770 --> 01:03:00,430 Remember? No, we wanted to make a difference. We had to demonstrate. 835 01:03:00,890 --> 01:03:04,350 Take the law in our own hands. Well, we were stoned, all right? It was just our 836 01:03:04,350 --> 01:03:05,750 getting stoned again. We were seeing things clearer. 837 01:03:06,570 --> 01:03:08,890 Well, stoned. I didn't even know what time it was then. 838 01:03:10,110 --> 01:03:14,350 What I do know is if you don't build ours, we don't make money. 839 01:03:15,770 --> 01:03:17,370 What did it become all about money? 840 01:03:17,710 --> 01:03:19,110 It's always been about money. 841 01:03:20,230 --> 01:03:22,630 You want to trade that jag in for a VW bus? 842 01:03:23,750 --> 01:03:27,530 What, you want to give up this view for some cubicle at legal aid? 843 01:03:27,810 --> 01:03:29,690 Stop the ideological crap. 844 01:03:31,550 --> 01:03:32,550 All right? 845 01:03:39,370 --> 01:03:40,810 The partners have been talking. 846 01:03:42,850 --> 01:03:46,870 And if I were you, I would build a lot of hours real soon. 847 01:03:53,290 --> 01:03:54,290 I don't know if I can do that. 848 01:04:00,030 --> 01:04:04,910 Well, when you join the Peace Corps, send me a postcard. 849 01:04:11,690 --> 01:04:18,490 And I am looking for a gentleman by the name 850 01:04:18,490 --> 01:04:23,230 of... No, it's... Mr. Coates, who was once married to a woman named 851 01:04:23,230 --> 01:04:24,230 Okay, here's the basic procedure. 852 01:04:24,450 --> 01:04:27,010 We can sue the insurance company that frees the money. 853 01:04:30,150 --> 01:04:31,370 Well, not exactly. 854 01:04:32,770 --> 01:04:35,330 That would be a civil suit for money damages, but we could get her on the 855 01:04:35,330 --> 01:04:36,330 witness stand. 856 01:04:37,090 --> 01:04:41,190 I... I know you don't care about the money of the land, but if we bring the 857 01:04:41,190 --> 01:04:45,010 suit, then Virginia McGinnis has got to go into that courtroom and explain why 858 01:04:45,010 --> 01:04:47,490 she's entitled to that money, and we get to question her. 859 01:04:53,290 --> 01:04:54,790 Glenn, that's not necessary. 860 01:04:56,010 --> 01:04:57,770 We're going to see this through. Uh -huh. 861 01:05:01,530 --> 01:05:02,530 Uh -huh. 862 01:05:04,950 --> 01:05:05,950 Okay. 863 01:05:06,710 --> 01:05:07,770 Bye. Bye -bye. 864 01:05:18,410 --> 01:05:19,410 Hey. 865 01:05:20,630 --> 01:05:22,790 I thought you said that you were, um... 866 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:26,540 Through with this 867 01:05:26,540 --> 01:05:37,680 Hope 868 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:43,480 you find what you need 869 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,900 What? I found him. 870 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:32,920 Who? 871 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,920 Dick Coates. He wasn't too keen about talking. It's an hour's drive, and I 872 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:39,020 didn't have time to pack lunch. 873 01:06:40,740 --> 01:06:42,840 Did anyone ever tell you you're fantastic? 874 01:06:43,540 --> 01:06:44,800 Not often enough. 875 01:07:23,220 --> 01:07:25,040 Hello? You the fellow from Louisville? 876 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,120 Yeah, Stephen King. 877 01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:30,260 Appreciate you seeing me. 878 01:07:30,940 --> 01:07:31,980 This here's about Virginia? 879 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:34,600 Yes, it is. 880 01:07:35,140 --> 01:07:36,140 Yes, it is. 881 01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:38,420 You were married to her, right? 882 01:07:38,700 --> 01:07:39,700 Right, yours. 883 01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:42,680 What's she done now? 884 01:07:45,980 --> 01:07:47,420 Well, she's, uh... 885 01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:55,400 It's possible that she murdered a young girl about 15 years ago. 886 01:08:03,300 --> 01:08:05,600 I ain't seen Virginia more than that, mister. 887 01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,140 That ain't my kid. 888 01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,160 Don't be anyone's. That's the truth. 889 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:13,120 Anyone's. 890 01:08:20,750 --> 01:08:21,850 I had the boys, yes, sir. 891 01:08:26,729 --> 01:08:29,130 I walked out of there. I never went back. 892 01:08:31,870 --> 01:08:33,590 Well, can you tell me anything about her? 893 01:08:36,689 --> 01:08:39,370 Well, she ain't something I like talking about. I can tell you that. 894 01:08:40,430 --> 01:08:41,830 Crazy from the day I met her. 895 01:08:46,270 --> 01:08:48,149 Then you could tell me about that. 896 01:08:52,510 --> 01:08:58,229 Well, I was logging with a friend, and we seen the sky was all lit up. 897 01:08:58,770 --> 01:09:03,210 Fire, you know, but don't get lit up like that. That's going to be a pretty 898 01:09:03,210 --> 01:09:04,210 fire. 899 01:09:05,590 --> 01:09:10,750 You can just stand in there, eyes and face all lit up from the fire. 900 01:09:12,050 --> 01:09:13,930 She was pretty back then, real pretty. 901 01:09:15,090 --> 01:09:17,330 Well, she's excited. 902 01:09:18,350 --> 01:09:21,630 She likes fire. It's like it's done something to her inside. 903 01:09:25,890 --> 01:09:28,250 Well, sir, next thing I know, we're married and she's pregnant. 904 01:09:33,109 --> 01:09:34,130 Something else. 905 01:09:39,010 --> 01:09:40,689 Seemed there was something wrong right from the start. 906 01:09:41,729 --> 01:09:43,990 She was getting shoes and dresses. 907 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:45,538 Fancy underwear. 908 01:09:45,540 --> 01:09:48,560 I wouldn't make them but a couple bucks a week. And then all this silverware. 909 01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:52,120 On special. 910 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:53,160 That's what she said. 911 01:09:53,460 --> 01:09:57,020 And Elva Platt, she ain't never had nothing to do with Elva Platt until that 912 01:09:57,020 --> 01:10:00,960 night. The minute she sees that silver, her eyes just go big. 913 01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,640 She says it's hers and it got stolen. And what's it doing here? 914 01:10:09,820 --> 01:10:11,460 The gall of it's what got me. 915 01:10:13,710 --> 01:10:17,270 Steal the woman's silver and then invite her into your house to look at it. 916 01:10:19,470 --> 01:10:20,490 She kept it. 917 01:10:21,130 --> 01:10:22,570 I stood up for her, you know. 918 01:10:22,790 --> 01:10:26,050 I can't have no stranger come in my house and insult my wife. 919 01:10:28,330 --> 01:10:29,610 You think she's grateful? 920 01:10:30,970 --> 01:10:31,970 Not Virginia. 921 01:10:33,410 --> 01:10:34,810 It weren't enough for her. 922 01:10:35,470 --> 01:10:41,790 Whatever I said to Mrs. Platt, it weren't enough. You didn't do, you 923 01:10:41,790 --> 01:10:42,790 nothing. 924 01:10:48,110 --> 01:10:49,770 So it just goes on like that. 925 01:10:50,070 --> 01:10:52,850 Until one night, I smell smoke. 926 01:10:53,330 --> 01:10:54,970 Her own husband in there. 927 01:10:56,050 --> 01:10:57,050 Her boys. 928 01:11:15,310 --> 01:11:17,170 Was that the last time you saw her? 929 01:11:18,860 --> 01:11:22,600 An insurance man came around to where I was living a few days later. 930 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,120 He gave me a check. 931 01:11:29,100 --> 01:11:31,380 I tell him, I don't have no insurance. 932 01:11:33,500 --> 01:11:35,120 He says, yes, you do. 933 01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,420 So that's me in Virginia. 934 01:11:44,940 --> 01:11:47,240 We started with fire, we ended with fire. 935 01:11:50,250 --> 01:11:52,930 Mr. Coates, would you be willing to testify to this in a court of law? 936 01:12:00,670 --> 01:12:04,690 I'd sooner crawl through hell than to come face to face with that woman again. 937 01:12:06,150 --> 01:12:07,310 It would help us a lot. 938 01:12:12,050 --> 01:12:13,430 She don't never let go. 939 01:12:15,770 --> 01:12:16,770 Will you testify? 940 01:12:25,770 --> 01:12:27,290 I'll do what I have to do. 941 01:12:49,690 --> 01:12:51,770 I got your little pamphlet. 942 01:12:53,410 --> 01:12:54,410 What'd you think? 943 01:12:54,810 --> 01:12:55,810 It's impressive. 944 01:12:57,310 --> 01:12:58,570 You think we got a case? 945 01:12:59,410 --> 01:13:04,250 Well, I got a level with you. The way things are up here right now, we might 946 01:13:04,250 --> 01:13:05,730 take this case with a signed confession. 947 01:13:06,150 --> 01:13:10,130 This office has lost two cases this last year to the tune of a couple of million 948 01:13:10,130 --> 01:13:12,890 dollars, and the taxpayers are none too happy about that. 949 01:13:13,810 --> 01:13:18,670 And this case is, um, it's too circumstantial. The public's already got 950 01:13:18,670 --> 01:13:21,310 taste in their mouth, and we would get crucified in the press. 951 01:13:22,350 --> 01:13:23,570 I'm sorry, we can't help. 952 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,360 So this is about politics. 953 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,620 No, there are just not too many true believers around here these days. 954 01:13:29,220 --> 01:13:30,280 What do you believe? 955 01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,060 That decision's already been made. 956 01:13:34,740 --> 01:13:36,120 And it wasn't mine to make. 957 01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:38,080 I am sorry. 958 01:13:52,460 --> 01:13:56,640 One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind. 959 01:13:57,860 --> 01:13:58,860 Something like that. 960 01:14:00,260 --> 01:14:03,100 All they did was walk on the moon? 961 01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,020 They played a little golf. 962 01:14:05,860 --> 01:14:07,740 Is that when you're happy? 963 01:14:09,660 --> 01:14:10,660 Yeah. 964 01:14:15,060 --> 01:14:19,500 You know, there's going to be some big changes for you and I. 965 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,480 Which is why I need you to hang in there with me for a while. 966 01:14:24,260 --> 01:14:25,260 Nicole. 967 01:14:26,900 --> 01:14:28,660 Well, I'm tired of my own practice. 968 01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,580 I'm going to be very busy for a while. 969 01:14:33,060 --> 01:14:34,420 It's not much of a change. 970 01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:47,440 Do you have any idea how much I wish I had all the time in the world to spend 971 01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:48,440 with you? 972 01:14:50,700 --> 01:14:51,700 But I don't. 973 01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:53,440 Not right now, anyway. 974 01:14:57,260 --> 01:14:58,480 That one was fun. 975 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,000 Oh, we just want different things. 976 01:15:04,820 --> 01:15:05,820 Right now. 977 01:15:06,900 --> 01:15:10,360 Which is why I also need you to hang in there with me. Not give up on me. 978 01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:11,760 Okay? 979 01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,060 Remember when we talked about putting the criminals in jail? 980 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:18,400 And you said that'd be really great. 981 01:15:19,020 --> 01:15:24,700 Right? Yeah, I think I'm gonna take so long 982 01:15:24,700 --> 01:15:38,120 Hey, 983 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:49,040 hey 984 01:15:50,670 --> 01:15:52,090 So they find you a new partner yet? 985 01:15:52,890 --> 01:15:55,490 I haven't decided what I'm going to do yet. 986 01:15:56,610 --> 01:15:58,130 Well, I know of a position. 987 01:15:58,350 --> 01:16:01,310 The pay's lousy, but the guy's an obsessive workaholic. 988 01:16:01,990 --> 01:16:06,230 You know that there's no one I'd rather work for. 989 01:16:07,330 --> 01:16:11,070 But the money here... 990 01:16:11,070 --> 01:16:18,050 Sarah. Don't start 991 01:16:18,050 --> 01:16:19,730 with the mushy stuff. 992 01:16:20,060 --> 01:16:21,060 Keeney. 993 01:16:22,420 --> 01:16:24,680 Actually, I was going to ask you to take these boxes out of here for me. 994 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:32,360 I believe you don't work for me anymore, if I recall. 995 01:16:34,060 --> 01:16:37,940 Keeney. Mr. Keeney, this is Mac Vandenberg of the San Diego Police 996 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,880 I've been told you have some interest in the McGinnis case. 997 01:16:45,820 --> 01:16:47,040 What can I do for you? 998 01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:48,600 Other way around, Counselor. 999 01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:52,660 I just busted a dirtbag by the name of Jimmy Coates. 1000 01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:55,700 I thought he was already in prison. 1001 01:16:56,060 --> 01:16:57,140 Out three days. 1002 01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:01,360 I busted him the last time, too. This is the kind that never stays out long. 1003 01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:06,520 Anyway, I was having some fun, telling him how messed up his life is, and he 1004 01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,420 tells me he's not worried, because he's coming into a lot of money. 1005 01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,040 I say, no kidding. 1006 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,640 Tell me, how does a loser like you come up with a way to make money? He says, 1007 01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,540 not me, jerk. My old lady, his mom. 1008 01:17:18,970 --> 01:17:22,030 She took out an insurance policy on some chick, and the chick died. 1009 01:17:22,810 --> 01:17:23,810 Convenient, right? 1010 01:17:24,490 --> 01:17:28,470 Anyway, he tells me that some crazy lawyer's running around saying it's 1011 01:17:28,930 --> 01:17:32,290 But that's all going to be wrapped up real soon, and then Mom gets the check. 1012 01:17:33,430 --> 01:17:36,250 So, I checked it out. 1013 01:17:37,610 --> 01:17:38,610 Talked to Monterey. 1014 01:17:39,750 --> 01:17:41,170 They told me there's no homicide. 1015 01:17:42,030 --> 01:17:43,750 They also told me you believe there is. 1016 01:17:44,310 --> 01:17:45,570 Well, I can give you the highlights. 1017 01:17:47,310 --> 01:17:52,460 So... McGinnis woman buys insurance, and the next day my client's daughter's 1018 01:17:52,460 --> 01:17:56,780 dead. And the beneficiary is your friend Jimmy, because he was the fiancé. 1019 01:17:57,020 --> 01:17:59,380 Only my client never heard of the engagement. 1020 01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:01,880 What do you think? 1021 01:18:02,980 --> 01:18:05,500 I think sometimes kids don't tell their parents everything. 1022 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:08,320 I'm assuming you've got more. 1023 01:18:08,580 --> 01:18:10,860 Yeah, I've got two file cabinets full. 1024 01:18:11,700 --> 01:18:13,080 Why don't you take this to the DA? 1025 01:18:13,660 --> 01:18:15,060 Well, we already did. 1026 01:18:15,740 --> 01:18:16,740 They turned us down. 1027 01:18:17,230 --> 01:18:18,310 Well, that's Monterey. 1028 01:18:18,970 --> 01:18:20,050 This is San Diego. 1029 01:18:20,570 --> 01:18:23,270 Get out here with everything you've got, and maybe we can sell it. 1030 01:18:23,950 --> 01:18:26,710 Well, if it was that easy, I would have taken it to the D .A. here in 1031 01:18:26,710 --> 01:18:29,230 Louisville. The murder happened in Monterey. 1032 01:18:29,510 --> 01:18:31,870 I don't mean to tell you how to do your job, Counselor. 1033 01:18:32,230 --> 01:18:36,310 If there was a conspiracy, it started when she bought the insurance policy. 1034 01:18:36,950 --> 01:18:39,930 If she bought it here, that puts it in our jurisdiction. 1035 01:18:53,480 --> 01:18:54,480 Mr. Keeney? 1036 01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,260 Yeah. Mack Vandenberg. Oh, hi. 1037 01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,640 Prosecutor's name is Sylvia Guzman. She's expecting us. Okay. 1038 01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:04,720 What the hell is all this? 1039 01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:06,460 You asked me to bring the evidence. 1040 01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:08,100 Want to grab those two poems? 1041 01:19:08,900 --> 01:19:09,900 Thank you. 1042 01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,220 Well, you certainly do your homework. 1043 01:19:35,440 --> 01:19:40,520 Now, why don't you tell me how I explain to the taxpayers why we're taking this 1044 01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:41,520 case from Monterey Path? 1045 01:19:42,820 --> 01:19:45,100 Well, I assume you'll take it because it's been a murder. 1046 01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,080 I'm afraid that's not good enough. 1047 01:19:49,220 --> 01:19:50,220 Well, how about this? 1048 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:54,400 A young girl is dead for no reason, except that a woman who makes a living 1049 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:57,740 collecting insurance claims killed her. If she isn't stopped, she'll do it 1050 01:19:57,740 --> 01:19:58,659 again. 1051 01:19:58,660 --> 01:20:00,220 Monterey didn't think they could prove that. 1052 01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:05,260 Well, this isn't Monterey. 1053 01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:16,540 I say all of Virginia not only killed Melissa, but quite possibly her 1054 01:20:16,620 --> 01:20:19,960 her husband, and her father as well. And what was it, 11 fires? 1055 01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:21,860 And Monterey didn't think they had a case? 1056 01:20:22,410 --> 01:20:25,010 Listen, have you had a chance to look at the transcripts of the McGinnis 1057 01:20:25,010 --> 01:20:26,390 interview with the insurance investigator? 1058 01:20:26,690 --> 01:20:29,870 Oh, I think compulsive liar just about sums it up. 1059 01:20:30,130 --> 01:20:33,890 At first she said that she and Melissa were taking a day trip to Mexico. Then 1060 01:20:33,890 --> 01:20:37,490 she says they were getting insurance to obtain a visa to go to Mexico. She put 1061 01:20:37,490 --> 01:20:40,590 the dog in the kennel before the trip. Then she says she had no dog. I mean, 1062 01:20:40,590 --> 01:20:42,170 this lady, she's a piece of work. 1063 01:20:42,410 --> 01:20:44,910 We finally got a hold of the neighbor. The one who was supposedly the witness 1064 01:20:44,910 --> 01:20:45,910 the insurance application. 1065 01:20:46,090 --> 01:20:48,610 It took us a while. The name was misspelled on the form. 1066 01:20:49,230 --> 01:20:50,870 Not many people misspell their own name. 1067 01:20:51,110 --> 01:20:52,430 The signature was forged. 1068 01:20:52,870 --> 01:20:54,330 One more lie, she's going to have to explain. 1069 01:20:55,350 --> 01:20:57,350 Dare I say, this case looks good. 1070 01:20:57,870 --> 01:20:58,870 Hmm. Oh. 1071 01:21:06,230 --> 01:21:07,910 Yes. Virginia McGinnis? 1072 01:21:08,250 --> 01:21:11,630 Yes. I'm Detective Vandenberg, San Diego Police Department. 1073 01:21:12,150 --> 01:21:13,210 I have a warrant. 1074 01:21:13,650 --> 01:21:14,970 You're under arrest for murder. 1075 01:21:15,190 --> 01:21:16,750 You have the right to remain silent. 1076 01:21:17,310 --> 01:21:20,830 I should bring some clothes with me, shouldn't I? 1077 01:21:21,270 --> 01:21:22,950 I'll be back in just a minute. 1078 01:21:54,090 --> 01:21:57,110 The coats killed himself. 1079 01:21:57,310 --> 01:21:58,670 How do you know coats killed himself? 1080 01:21:59,090 --> 01:22:02,050 Maybe it was someone on the grassy knoll trying to protect dear old mom. 1081 01:22:02,770 --> 01:22:03,810 He left a note. 1082 01:22:04,810 --> 01:22:06,610 VJ may be joining the club soon. 1083 01:22:07,330 --> 01:22:10,130 They transferred him to the prison hospital this morning. 1084 01:22:11,290 --> 01:22:14,230 How sick is he? Well, he ain't been doing much dancing. 1085 01:22:15,210 --> 01:22:16,210 Here. 1086 01:22:16,610 --> 01:22:17,630 VJ's medical office? 1087 01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:23,980 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute. 1088 01:22:24,260 --> 01:22:28,360 These are psychological records, not medical records. 1089 01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:30,280 Triggered information. 1090 01:22:31,700 --> 01:22:32,760 Might have a problem. 1091 01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:38,640 So? 1092 01:22:39,060 --> 01:22:40,060 Misconduct. 1093 01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:44,700 Misconduct? When I was sent the wrong medical records for BJ and proceeded to 1094 01:22:44,700 --> 01:22:45,780 open and read them. 1095 01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,300 Not only is the jury not going to hear that BJ thought Virginia was trying to 1096 01:22:50,300 --> 01:22:54,160 poison him, but the judge decided that I should be penalized for reading my own 1097 01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:57,680 mail. So our request for the death penalty has been denied. 1098 01:22:57,940 --> 01:22:59,560 The best we can hope for is life without parole. 1099 01:22:59,980 --> 01:23:03,820 All right, we can still use Cynthia's hanging and the pattern of insurance 1100 01:23:03,820 --> 01:23:05,520 claims? There's a rule on that yet. 1101 01:23:06,260 --> 01:23:09,020 What a good week for the home team. 1102 01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:12,840 Hi. 1103 01:23:17,550 --> 01:23:19,090 The evidence is inadmissible. 1104 01:23:20,550 --> 01:23:21,550 Which evidence? 1105 01:23:21,970 --> 01:23:22,970 All of it. 1106 01:23:23,350 --> 01:23:26,790 The judge decided that anything that happened before Melissa's death is 1107 01:23:26,790 --> 01:23:31,490 inadmissible. That means no dead Cynthia, no dead husband, no fires. What 1108 01:23:31,490 --> 01:23:35,430 have, though, I think there's a jaywalking ticket or some shoplifted 1109 01:23:35,430 --> 01:23:38,950 in there somewhere. All right, we're going to have to try BJ again. He's not 1110 01:23:38,950 --> 01:23:39,950 talking. 1111 01:23:40,230 --> 01:23:42,870 He's the only living witness to what happened. You can see Virginia's 1112 01:23:42,870 --> 01:23:45,850 fingerprints all over him. He's here. He's dying now. He knows he's dying. 1113 01:23:45,850 --> 01:23:48,950 not talking to you. Listen, I've been working on this thing too long to let 1114 01:23:48,950 --> 01:23:51,150 judge throw this whole thing out. We have to do something. 1115 01:23:52,730 --> 01:23:53,730 I'm not the enemy. 1116 01:23:58,490 --> 01:23:59,490 What do we got? 1117 01:23:59,590 --> 01:24:04,330 How you doing, man? Go ahead and record the time of death. 1118 01:24:05,290 --> 01:24:06,670 Here you go. 1119 01:24:06,890 --> 01:24:07,890 Yes, sir. 1120 01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:16,880 The cause of death? 1121 01:24:17,480 --> 01:24:18,480 Arrestory arrest? 1122 01:24:19,020 --> 01:24:20,020 Due to empathy. 1123 01:24:20,740 --> 01:24:21,619 Yes, sir. 1124 01:24:21,620 --> 01:24:24,900 I don't know. Is there some joke I don't know about, or is this case just 1125 01:24:24,900 --> 01:24:25,940 cursed? You tried. 1126 01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:27,179 You wouldn't talk. 1127 01:24:27,180 --> 01:24:29,800 I don't know how I got into this. We don't have a case. 1128 01:24:30,140 --> 01:24:31,680 Sylvia, we'll get the same case we had before. 1129 01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:33,380 What do you want me to do, Keeney? 1130 01:24:33,780 --> 01:24:35,380 Pop BJ up on the witness stand? 1131 01:24:35,700 --> 01:24:39,460 Get testimony out of Coker's dead body? You can win it on circumstantial, but we 1132 01:24:39,460 --> 01:24:40,720 just have to play with a few cards down. 1133 01:24:51,070 --> 01:24:52,470 Just. 1134 01:24:55,510 --> 01:24:56,510 Just. 1135 01:25:25,230 --> 01:25:30,430 Your Honor, we feel that the unique circumstances of this case warrant 1136 01:25:30,430 --> 01:25:32,130 the jury to the cliff in Monterey. 1137 01:25:32,770 --> 01:25:35,290 Not for a field trip, but actual testimony. 1138 01:25:36,370 --> 01:25:40,750 We realize that this 500 -mile journey is unprecedented, and the cost would be 1139 01:25:40,750 --> 01:25:41,750 substantial. 1140 01:25:42,110 --> 01:25:47,570 But, Your Honor, if we can see and feel what Melissa Wilkins experienced just 1141 01:25:47,570 --> 01:25:52,930 before she died, we are confident it will take us to the truth. 1142 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,420 Sam Park there. Gotta go down another 50 feet. 1143 01:26:59,340 --> 01:27:00,340 Are you Mr. Keeney? 1144 01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:03,380 Yeah. Tim O 'Grady. Good luck. 1145 01:27:04,460 --> 01:27:05,460 Thanks. 1146 01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:14,760 What I did, sir, is chart the 1147 01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,340 coefficient of friction of the surface. 1148 01:27:18,260 --> 01:27:23,720 Basically, it's a measurement of how slippery it is. The looseness of the 1149 01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:24,900 contributes to... 1150 01:27:27,530 --> 01:27:31,790 It's quite clear that the closer you get to the edge, the lower the coefficient. 1151 01:27:32,190 --> 01:27:35,210 It would be very easy to fall. 1152 01:27:38,310 --> 01:27:39,310 Ms. Guzman? 1153 01:27:40,710 --> 01:27:41,850 Thank you, Your Honor. 1154 01:27:47,230 --> 01:27:50,350 Virginia McGinnis took pictures. 1155 01:27:52,310 --> 01:27:53,710 From these pictures... 1156 01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:59,180 We know that they drove up the Pacific Coast Highway to get here. And they 1157 01:27:59,180 --> 01:28:02,380 parked right over there. Right over there where the police cars are. 1158 01:28:05,480 --> 01:28:06,480 Come on. 1159 01:28:07,220 --> 01:28:08,280 Want to try and take a look? 1160 01:28:08,940 --> 01:28:09,940 I don't know. 1161 01:28:10,220 --> 01:28:11,340 Is there anything to see? 1162 01:28:12,260 --> 01:28:14,120 Well, we'll just check that out. We'll be right back. 1163 01:28:40,300 --> 01:28:46,300 We know that Melissa stayed in the car because she took 1164 01:28:46,300 --> 01:28:52,820 this picture of the defendant and her husband through the window. 1165 01:28:54,300 --> 01:28:56,020 Was she trying to tell us something? 1166 01:29:04,180 --> 01:29:05,580 Come on, honey, you're beautiful. 1167 01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,080 That's why we brought you here. 1168 01:29:31,150 --> 01:29:32,490 We going to take some pictures? 1169 01:29:34,630 --> 01:29:35,630 Yes, we are. 1170 01:29:37,050 --> 01:29:39,030 Why don't you go stand over there by that rock? 1171 01:29:39,490 --> 01:29:40,490 That'll be good, huh? 1172 01:29:40,830 --> 01:29:41,830 Yeah. 1173 01:29:42,130 --> 01:29:43,410 With the ocean behind. 1174 01:29:43,890 --> 01:29:44,648 Mm -hmm. 1175 01:29:44,650 --> 01:29:45,650 Great. 1176 01:29:50,250 --> 01:29:51,250 Take a couple. 1177 01:29:51,430 --> 01:29:52,470 I'll send one to Ma. 1178 01:29:52,770 --> 01:29:53,830 Okay, hold it right there. 1179 01:29:58,050 --> 01:29:59,050 Smile for me, baby. 1180 01:29:59,710 --> 01:30:00,710 Good. 1181 01:30:03,660 --> 01:30:08,740 By the order of the pictures on the roll, we know that Melissa posed here 1182 01:30:08,740 --> 01:30:15,280 photograph before she and Mr. McGinnis proceeded to that location where yet 1183 01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,060 another picture was taken. 1184 01:30:17,700 --> 01:30:19,400 If the jury would follow me. 1185 01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:29,600 This spot provides an excellent view of the beach and the ocean. 1186 01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:32,340 Quite safe here. 1187 01:30:32,830 --> 01:30:33,829 It's not slippery. 1188 01:30:33,830 --> 01:30:35,890 There is no reason to go any further. 1189 01:30:41,090 --> 01:30:42,530 We need another picture. 1190 01:30:44,190 --> 01:30:45,210 Right here would be good. 1191 01:30:49,350 --> 01:30:50,610 I'm a little tired. 1192 01:30:52,890 --> 01:30:54,490 Are you guys going to stop chattering? 1193 01:30:56,250 --> 01:30:57,250 Smile. 1194 01:30:59,750 --> 01:31:00,750 Good. 1195 01:31:00,970 --> 01:31:02,230 Now over here by these rocks. 1196 01:31:02,590 --> 01:31:03,870 But they did go further. 1197 01:31:04,430 --> 01:31:09,030 The next pictures will make that perfectly clear. You can follow me when 1198 01:31:09,030 --> 01:31:10,030 finished. 1199 01:31:22,050 --> 01:31:24,430 Over here, there is no fencing. 1200 01:31:25,290 --> 01:31:28,630 The slope falls off sharply to the cliff. 1201 01:31:29,190 --> 01:31:30,190 But... 1202 01:31:31,950 --> 01:31:33,310 This is where they came. 1203 01:32:02,250 --> 01:32:03,250 Back to the road. 1204 01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:27,240 On the charge of premeditated murder, we find the defendant, Virginia McGinnis, 1205 01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:28,300 guilty. 1206 01:33:37,060 --> 01:33:43,320 On the special circumstance, murder for profit, guilty as charged. 1207 01:34:42,030 --> 01:34:43,130 Do I have to focus or anything? 91551

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