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Over here.
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Good
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morning.
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Good morning. Good to see you. This is
Bob.
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I needed to talk to you. I wanted to ask
if you had a chance to read the
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pleading.
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Excuse me, Mr.
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Kinney? Yes.
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I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt.
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My name is Lou Ann Wilkins.
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I'm sorry to bother you, but I know
you're a lawyer.
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Ms. Wilkins, I don't usually discuss
business at church.
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Oh, no, I realize that.
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Well, I don't know any lawyers, and I
don't come to church very often, but I
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knew that you were a lawyer, and I lost
my daughter, Melissa.
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She was 19.
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She was staying with some people in
California, and she died two months ago.
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I'm very sorry to hear that.
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Why don't we step over here? Y 'all
excuse me. I'll talk to you later.
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Oh,
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Wynne Burkholder. This is... I'm sorry.
My pleasure.
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This is my son,
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Christian. Hi. Hi.
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We'll just be a minute.
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Mrs.
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Wilkins, I'm sorry. I'm not really the
kind of lawyer, corporate lawyer. I want
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you to deal with individuals.
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I'm sorry.
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I shouldn't be bothering you with this.
It's just that I have some insurance.
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Life insurance?
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Oh, no, no burial insurance for the
funeral expenses.
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I'm a teacher. It's one of the benefits.
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I paid for the funeral, and now the
insurance company won't pay me. It's
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,000, and I... Insurance companies can
be very, very callous. Take forever.
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Listen, why don't you stop by my office?
I'll draw up a letter.
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When they see something written on a
lawyer's letter, they usually get some
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moving.
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Okay?
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If you'll excuse me, I have to get back
and find my son before he ODs on the
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donut. All right?
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Oh, Mr. Keeney.
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Thanks.
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My pleasure.
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Hey.
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Hey, hey. Court vacated the injunction.
The deal's going down.
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Takes care of that Christmas bonus.
Yeah, I already ran the numbers. 11,
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didn't change.
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Wow. Looks like the celebration's in
order.
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Lunch at the club?
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Sounds about right.
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All right, let me make sure I'm free.
Um, sir, any reason I can't go for
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You've got Omnitech 230.
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230. Got it. Um, we'll be at the club.
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Lay off the red meat.
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My name is Louie Wilkinson, and I'm here
to see you. I was supposed to be
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cutting that red meat myself.
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It's just behind me. They got sticks at
the club I have dreams about. Can we
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still put together a case for
infringement on the, uh, Omnitech
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What? I'm sorry.
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Oh, we're bringing action.
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Omnitech. Oh, no, no, no. I won't be
that serious.
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Listen,
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um, why don't you go ahead and get a
table? I'll catch up to you. I gotta
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care of something. We're fine.
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That's insurance.
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Okay, Claire.
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She does not.
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I should have called for an appointment,
but he just said to come by, that it
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would only take a minute.
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I... Oh, hi.
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Your secretary said that you were...
Okay, change of plans. Come on in.
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And the name of the insurance company,
Miss Wilkins?
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Um, before we get any further, can I
just ask about how much this might be?
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exactly. Don't worry, there's no charge.
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Uh, the name of the insurance company?
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I have it right here.
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I have a policy.
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Sarah, could you get me Serenity
Insurance, please, the, uh, claim
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Okay. When did your daughter die, Ms.,
um, sorry, Luann?
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April 2nd.
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And was there a physician attending?
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Oh, she wasn't ill, Mr. Keeney. She fell
off a cliff.
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She was staying with an older couple in
California, and they went sightseeing
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by the ocean, I think.
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Apparently there were some cliffs,
and... I've got Mr. Delph at Serenity
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Insurance.
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Mr. Delph, Steve Keeney. I'm an attorney
with Barnett and Alessio, and I'm here
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with my client.
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Luann Wilkins, who has a policy with
your company.
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Oh, you're familiar with it. Good.
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Listen, it was a terrible loss, you
know, and the funeral expenses on a
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teacher's salary, well, I'd just like to
expedite the payment.
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Oh.
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Okay.
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Good. Thank you very much.
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Sarah, could you give me the sheriff's
office in Monterey, California, please,
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of Deputy O 'Grady?
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Um... It seems the problem isn't the
insurance company. It's the paperwork in
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Monterey.
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Deputy O 'Grady.
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Okay.
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Deputy O 'Grady.
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Hi, it's Steve Keeney. I'm a lawyer here
in Louisville, Kentucky.
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I represent Luann Wilkins, and her
daughter died in an accident a few
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on April 2nd of fall.
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Yes, that's right.
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Well...
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We've been having some trouble with the
insurance, and we tracked it down, and
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it turns out the bottleneck's at your
end.
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No, no, no, there's nothing like that.
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Are you sure you're looking at the right
case?
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She didn't have life insurance.
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Yeah, right, a fall.
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How many people do you have falling off
cliffs out there?
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Now, listen, no, I checked it out.
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It's not life insurance. It's a burial
policy.
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No, a Kentucky policy. I represent the
mother.
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No, it's not American Provincial. It's
not life insurance. Uh
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-huh.
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Okay.
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Listen, can I call you back?
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Thank you.
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Was your daughter engaged?
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No, of course not.
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They haven't issued the death
certificate because the coroner hasn't
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his investigation into your daughter's
death.
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I don't understand.
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Neither do I. But apparently they're
getting calls from American Provincial.
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Your daughter had a $35 ,000 life
insurance policy, and the beneficiary
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fiancé.
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Well, that's not possible.
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Does the name James Coates mean anything
to you?
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No. The secondary beneficiaries were B
.J. and Virginia McGinnis.
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How about those names?
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Those were the people she was staying
with when she died.
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The Court TV movie, Death Benefit, will
return in a moment.
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This Memorial Day weekend, Court TV
keeps you in suspense.
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Tell me what's going on! on? With five
movies.
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What do we got? Based on novels readers
just couldn't...
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No,
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I don't think I can get in there by
three.
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I said late afternoon.
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You'll have them by five, all right?
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Dad, where do I go?
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third level you said 10 30 come on
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no no no
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that's not that's not what we agreed on
no no we can do better than that rod
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come on i mean we can take the case to
trial but but it's not non -infectious
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interest and it's certainly not in ours
no
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No, we're standing firm on this, all
right? We're standing firm on this.
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Nope, that's not what was said in the
meeting.
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I don't have to check my notes.
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Look, 7 .5 is more than adequate
compensation for failing to disclose
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liabilities.
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Well, then they shouldn't have invested.
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Look, I... No, no.
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All right, fine, fine, fine. But it's
got to be the first thing up tomorrow.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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All right, bye.
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Hungry?
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Be quick.
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Have I had a change of clothes?
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So why don't you just keep some things
here?
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And I could not for the life of me
remember her name or where I knew her
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and I was just blank.
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It was embarrassing.
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It's just not like me.
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Her daughter fell off a cliff.
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Oh, my God.
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California.
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She was staying with a couple that were
there with her when it happened.
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Apparently, they have life insurance on
her.
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Well, those don't sound like the kind of
people you should be involved with.
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Yeah.
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You wrote her the letter, whatever it
was you were going to do, so... You
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Don't forget we have dinner with
Rodericks on Wednesday.
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Bye.
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Oh, yeah, I should have been out of here
ten minutes ago, but it's rather slow
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going.
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Oh, here comes the head snail slurring
down the hallway as we speak.
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You found anything yet?
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Yes. I found the filter and the coffee.
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Then I put the filter in the pot, put
the coffee in the filter, filled the pot
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with water, and then delivered the cup
of coffee that I have placed in front of
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you. Now I will take these same two
hands, the only two I've got, and see if
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can find your information.
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Can I call you back?
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Thank you.
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So apparently there are two
applications.
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One for Melissa Wilkins and one for Mr.
McGinnis.
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Apparently.
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Listen, I'm wondering if you can help me
here.
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I know your experience and expertise in
these matters far exceeds mine.
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Thank you.
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The one for Mr. McGinnis was rejected.
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He's in very poor health.
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Melissa's policy was approved.
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So say who applied for these?
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Mr. and Mrs. McGinnis. But the girl
signed the application.
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Well, that doesn't really solve my
problem. She wasn't related to the
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McGinnises. So how are they her
beneficiaries?
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Secondary beneficiaries.
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The primary beneficiary was their son,
James Coates.
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Apparently he was engaged to Ms.
Wilkins. There's some question about
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I suppose it says if he was there when
the applications were made, was he?
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From these records, he appears to have
been in prison at the time.
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So how's the weather in Monterey?
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It's fine, Mr. Keeney.
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Uh, so listen, my client and I are still
waiting for that death certificate.
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The certificate's going to be long,
Counselor.
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What doesn't it sound like?
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What are you trying to tell me?
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I don't know.
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We had to question the McGinnises about
the accident.
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Did they see the fall? Did they hear
anything?
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It's just normal procedure.
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And when she answered, she was very cool
and detached.
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And then I asked if she had any
insurance.
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No, no. You mean like life insurance?
There was nothing like that.
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We didn't hear a sound.
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We turned around and she was gone.
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The Court TV movie, Death Benefits, will
return in a moment.
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We now return to the Court TV movie,
Death Benefit.
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Coroner's office haven't closed the
case, which is why we don't have the
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certificate yet.
267
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So we're contesting that McGinnis is
claiming the insurance money.
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And that will make them close.
269
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It's the opposite, actually.
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I'm sorry, I don't understand. You don't
want them to close?
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Maybe I'm getting a little ahead of
myself here, but I was looking for a way
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keep the case open. At least until
someone can tell us what actually
273
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What do you mean, what actually
happened?
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I don't know.
275
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Are you saying they killed her?
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No, no, no, no. I don't know.
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Come on.
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May I help you? This one, Mr. Keeney?
Yeah.
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Can I sign that?
280
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Thank you.
281
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I've been waiting for her. What is it?
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Autopsy report.
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Can you fix the speeding ticket?
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No.
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You owe me then.
286
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What have we got?
287
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It's not that far out of line from what
you'd expect with a fall victim.
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She seems to have taken amitriptyline.
289
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Which is?
290
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Antidepressant. Make you drowsy.
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If you're not used to it, it can make
you pretty damn dizzy, too, depending on
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how much she had.
293
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All this says is presence.
294
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We would never get away with that in an
autopsy here in Louisville.
295
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You know, you ever want to kill anyone?
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Like an ex or someone?
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You ought to give serious thought to
sending him out a window or down a
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or a cliff.
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Why's that?
300
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Well, shoot someone, there are holes.
301
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Strangle them, there's marks.
302
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Poison, we find the poison.
303
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But a fall, you hit bottom, gravity
doesn't care how you got there.
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You look the same whether you were
pushed or you fell.
305
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Even if we suspect something, we usually
can't prove it.
306
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Uh -huh.
307
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I don't know, this is interesting.
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Take a look.
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What? Her hand.
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You get scratches over here, bruises on
the back.
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Practically all of her fingernails are
ripped out.
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Not many dead bodies in your kind of
law, I guess.
313
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What's it mean?
314
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Oh, scratches on her palms. That's what
you'd get if you were holding on or you
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grabbed her something on the way down.
316
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Bruises on the back of the hands,
classic defensive wounds.
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I don't know.
318
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Maybe somebody stepped on her hand.
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Wow.
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Think somebody killed him?
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Bet they did.
322
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That is so cruel.
323
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What have you been telling him?
324
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My father's not that kind of boy.
325
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Don't you have some homework to do?
326
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She's probably done it.
327
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Hey, come on, now.
328
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Go.
329
00:24:57,050 --> 00:24:59,410
I think he's already got someone picked
out to play me in the movie.
330
00:24:59,750 --> 00:25:00,810
Isn't it funny, Steven?
331
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,560
They say enough murder and mayhem on
television, and now we're talking about
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morgues and scratches on dead bodies.
333
00:25:09,340 --> 00:25:11,280
I just like to tell them what I'm doing,
that's all.
334
00:25:11,500 --> 00:25:13,840
Really? Did you tell them about the
railroad loger?
335
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,820
That's not the point. That's exactly the
point. He's trying something exciting
336
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about being mixed up in this prison. A
little incident. I mean, you heard him,
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Stephen, didn't you?
338
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A girl gets pushed off a cliff, and he
thinks that's so cool.
339
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Who said cool?
340
00:25:26,180 --> 00:25:27,460
The wrong word. He's a kid.
341
00:25:27,660 --> 00:25:28,660
I'm not talking about words.
342
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No, you're not.
343
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We canceled on Broderick's last
Wednesday.
344
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That's fine.
345
00:25:36,020 --> 00:25:38,920
Patty and Bill enjoyed our theater
tickets last time. I can get more
346
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,920
Father Montgomery came up to me after
the auxiliary luncheon today and asked
347
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everything was all right.
348
00:25:42,900 --> 00:25:44,940
She said you postponed two meetings with
Rod.
349
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,960
I'm just trying to help a client.
350
00:25:47,220 --> 00:25:48,740
I thought it was just supposed to be a
letter.
351
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:50,039
Well, it isn't.
352
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,660
Well, what is it, then? A homicide
investigation?
353
00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:55,520
I don't think we can rule that out.
354
00:25:55,860 --> 00:25:57,340
And I don't think you're a homicide
detective.
355
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,980
You may be enjoying this, but I don't
think you know what you're doing.
356
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:02,960
Really? Yes, really.
357
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,800
You may be right, but I don't think
anyone else knows what they're doing
358
00:26:08,620 --> 00:26:11,380
And if this girl had been a debutante,
the authorities would have been all over
359
00:26:11,380 --> 00:26:12,560
this case, but she wasn't.
360
00:26:14,060 --> 00:26:17,840
I mean, no one seems to care what
happened to her, except her mother, who
361
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,920
to me in church and asked me to help
her, which is what I'm trying to do.
362
00:26:30,190 --> 00:26:31,190
Just carry it.
363
00:26:35,770 --> 00:26:38,110
Well, double roll.
364
00:26:44,410 --> 00:26:45,410
Pretty girl.
365
00:26:46,510 --> 00:26:47,510
Yeah, she is.
366
00:26:48,110 --> 00:26:49,130
Look at those shoes.
367
00:26:49,470 --> 00:26:52,310
She was climbing rocks in high heels. I
guess that's why she fell.
368
00:26:54,330 --> 00:26:55,650
Must be the McGinnises.
369
00:26:57,790 --> 00:26:59,030
Melissa must have taken it.
370
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,040
I'm feeling a little tired.
371
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I'm a triplet.
372
00:27:02,380 --> 00:27:05,040
Makes you drowsy. It was in her system.
373
00:27:12,860 --> 00:27:13,860
The hell?
374
00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:15,120
Where's he looking?
375
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,680
He's checking the road.
376
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:21,920
Nothing.
377
00:27:40,780 --> 00:27:42,500
and I want you to call Virginia
McGinnis.
378
00:28:04,380 --> 00:28:05,380
Yes.
379
00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:10,120
Mrs. McGinnis.
380
00:28:10,510 --> 00:28:12,690
This is Lou Anne Wilkins in Louisville.
381
00:28:13,490 --> 00:28:14,490
Melissa's mother.
382
00:28:14,610 --> 00:28:15,610
How are you doing?
383
00:28:17,210 --> 00:28:20,130
Oh, yes, of course. Pretty good. How are
you?
384
00:28:20,730 --> 00:28:24,210
Well, sometimes good and sometimes bad,
you know.
385
00:28:25,450 --> 00:28:26,750
After you lose a daughter.
386
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:31,070
Yeah, I've been there. I can't say the
hurt will ever go away.
387
00:28:35,670 --> 00:28:38,710
I'm just trying to get clear in my mind
that...
388
00:28:39,490 --> 00:28:42,110
When she fell, did you hear anything?
389
00:28:45,070 --> 00:28:46,570
We never heard a sound.
390
00:28:47,530 --> 00:28:51,730
I had taken the last picture of Melissa
and BJ, but that's my husband.
391
00:28:52,050 --> 00:28:56,050
We were getting cold, so we started back
to the car, BJ and I.
392
00:28:56,710 --> 00:29:00,030
We looked back, and she was gone.
393
00:29:02,290 --> 00:29:03,950
We'd done a lot of sightseeing.
394
00:29:04,330 --> 00:29:07,490
We'd stopped three, four different
times.
395
00:29:08,590 --> 00:29:12,930
Melissa always wanted to gawk and look.
Oh, look, look, look, she'd say.
396
00:29:14,190 --> 00:29:19,570
Periodically, the sun would break
through and make these little rainbows
397
00:29:19,570 --> 00:29:21,070
that just fascinated her.
398
00:29:22,270 --> 00:29:23,270
Oh, yes.
399
00:29:24,890 --> 00:29:29,230
Uh, I was wondering, do you have any
other pictures of Melissa?
400
00:29:29,790 --> 00:29:32,370
I got the ones... That were in the
camera, yes.
401
00:29:32,890 --> 00:29:34,110
No, that's all I had.
402
00:29:34,430 --> 00:29:37,690
And those... Where were those?
403
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,760
I mean, was that where she fell?
404
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,400
Some of them.
405
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:45,840
Where she fell?
406
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:48,680
Yes.
407
00:29:52,380 --> 00:29:56,420
You know, the autopsy said that they
found some kind of drug.
408
00:29:59,220 --> 00:30:00,220
Amitriptyline.
409
00:30:00,620 --> 00:30:02,660
They said that she had that in her body.
410
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,840
Well, I wouldn't know anything about
that.
411
00:30:05,860 --> 00:30:07,180
Now, BJ had her.
412
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,620
Prescription for that after some
surgery, but maybe she took one by
413
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,280
Yes.
414
00:30:13,660 --> 00:30:15,660
I suppose that could be.
415
00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:21,720
The other thing I was wondering about,
they said that, you know, that Melissa
416
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,780
had taken out a life insurance policy.
417
00:30:25,260 --> 00:30:28,660
There was nothing to that, really.
418
00:30:29,060 --> 00:30:31,400
It was just a nominal sum.
419
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,840
It came about in the silliest way.
420
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,640
BJ.
421
00:30:37,050 --> 00:30:39,090
needed to increase his insurance.
422
00:30:39,810 --> 00:30:44,270
So we went down to apply to the
insurance office. And while we were
423
00:30:44,290 --> 00:30:48,690
Melissa said, what about me and my
chopped liver? Well, we just laughed.
424
00:30:49,090 --> 00:30:51,350
Insurance at your age? I mean, what do
you need it for?
425
00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:55,410
And the salesman was the agent, the
insurance agent.
426
00:30:55,670 --> 00:31:00,050
He said that at her age, he wished that
somebody had urged him to take out a
427
00:31:00,050 --> 00:31:04,250
policy because it's so cheap being that
age.
428
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:05,630
So we did.
429
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,560
So as I was saying, we never heard a
sound.
430
00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:13,220
We never heard a gasp.
431
00:31:13,460 --> 00:31:14,680
We never heard anything.
432
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,760
Nothing.
433
00:31:17,140 --> 00:31:19,540
If it makes you feel better.
434
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,320
Or if it makes you feel worse.
435
00:31:27,260 --> 00:31:28,960
Thank you for talking with me.
436
00:31:32,140 --> 00:31:33,140
Goodbye.
437
00:31:51,820 --> 00:31:52,820
The Court TV.
438
00:31:54,260 --> 00:31:55,260
Hey!
439
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,460
Where are you going? We've got a
meeting.
440
00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,560
Okay.
441
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,300
What? We've got a flat in California.
442
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:06,940
We've got a flat in California. We've
got a flat in California.
443
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,760
Don't listen to me and do what that
school teacher used to do.
444
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,120
No, no. Pro bono is a dirty word, my
friend. I don't know how to find back.
445
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,400
A $2 ,000 claim? I regulated my own damn
personal check.
446
00:32:18,940 --> 00:32:20,880
No, it is about the money.
447
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,280
You know, more importantly, I had to
take a pass on the golf outing at
448
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,420
because I've been busy covering your
butt the last six months. Come on.
449
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,080
All right, look.
450
00:32:31,420 --> 00:32:33,440
I'm going to take care of this thing in
a day. Two tops.
451
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:34,800
I'm back.
452
00:33:16,270 --> 00:33:17,270
There we go.
453
00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:21,210
Okay. You know, what is the spur of the
moment thing? You know, they have been
454
00:33:21,210 --> 00:33:22,330
in here a couple of times before.
455
00:33:22,890 --> 00:33:23,890
They?
456
00:33:24,090 --> 00:33:25,090
Yeah.
457
00:33:25,630 --> 00:33:27,690
Mrs. McGinnis, her husband, and the
girl.
458
00:33:28,490 --> 00:33:32,350
Something about insuring the girl so she
could get a visa to go to Mexico or
459
00:33:32,350 --> 00:33:33,590
something like that. I didn't really
understand.
460
00:33:34,750 --> 00:33:35,950
And nothing came of that?
461
00:33:36,930 --> 00:33:39,410
No. It wasn't exactly...
462
00:33:39,740 --> 00:33:41,340
Pushing for the sale, if you know what I
mean.
463
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,800
No, I don't.
464
00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:46,440
The man was in poor health. He had
emphysema. They had to know we couldn't
465
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,440
a policy on it.
466
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,520
But there was no problem writing a
policy on the girl.
467
00:33:51,060 --> 00:33:53,800
Well, small policy, $35 ,000.
468
00:33:54,420 --> 00:33:56,720
Easier to just push it right on through,
if you know what I mean.
469
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,320
Still, it just didn't sit right.
Insuring a child that's not your child.
470
00:34:02,460 --> 00:34:06,840
They said that the girl was their son's
prospective fiancé. Now, what in the
471
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,280
hell is that supposed to mean?
472
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,280
My client, when she was speaking with
Mrs.
473
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,960
McGinnis, said something about how
difficult it was to lose a daughter.
474
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:18,880
And Mrs. McGinnis said I'd been there.
475
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:22,800
Nothing but the boys that I know of.
They'd both been in prison.
476
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,940
Ronnie was in for burglary or something
like that, and the other one was in for
477
00:34:28,940 --> 00:34:29,940
murder.
478
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,120
Did Mrs.
479
00:34:32,179 --> 00:34:33,800
McGinnis pay the premiums?
480
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:36,659
There was just one, $68 .10.
481
00:34:38,030 --> 00:34:41,790
We issued the policy on April the 1st.
The girl died on the 2nd.
482
00:35:37,290 --> 00:35:38,290
Can I help you?
483
00:35:39,890 --> 00:35:46,410
I... No, I, um... I was just
484
00:35:46,410 --> 00:35:48,050
looking at your house.
485
00:35:49,450 --> 00:35:50,450
Why?
486
00:35:53,330 --> 00:35:54,610
Are you in real estate?
487
00:35:56,770 --> 00:35:58,230
I'm interested in the neighborhood.
488
00:35:59,950 --> 00:36:01,670
Really? Mm -hmm.
489
00:36:04,490 --> 00:36:06,850
Actually, we're thinking about...
490
00:36:07,150 --> 00:36:08,150
Selling.
491
00:36:10,170 --> 00:36:12,970
Why don't you come in and you give me an
appraisal?
492
00:36:15,350 --> 00:36:16,350
Come on.
493
00:36:33,150 --> 00:36:36,250
Well, what's it worth?
494
00:36:37,790 --> 00:36:39,130
You're modifying.
495
00:36:39,710 --> 00:36:40,970
Look around.
496
00:36:50,670 --> 00:36:51,730
Hi.
497
00:36:52,950 --> 00:36:54,010
Hello.
498
00:36:55,510 --> 00:36:56,930
What's the score?
499
00:37:05,390 --> 00:37:08,070
I understand you're selling your house.
500
00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:15,050
Is that what Virginia said? It's time
for my husband's medication.
501
00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:20,530
I'm a registered nurse, you know.
502
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,280
It's just a bedroom.
503
00:37:50,020 --> 00:37:51,180
Your daughter's room?
504
00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:53,280
I don't have a daughter.
505
00:37:58,260 --> 00:37:59,580
How's the closet space?
506
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,620
What's your name?
507
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:04,920
Keeney.
508
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,200
Steven.
509
00:38:09,020 --> 00:38:10,020
What's it worth?
510
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,000
It's hard to say. I have to go back to
my office and check the comms in the
511
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,000
neighborhood first.
512
00:38:17,580 --> 00:38:20,320
Well, give me your card so I can call
you. I don't have a card.
513
00:38:22,060 --> 00:38:24,080
What company are you with? I mean,
where's your office?
514
00:38:24,940 --> 00:38:25,940
I don't have an office.
515
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:33,540
Who the hell are you?
516
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,520
You're with those insurance people,
aren't you?
517
00:38:42,730 --> 00:38:43,870
What are you guys up to?
518
00:38:44,170 --> 00:38:45,550
And when do I get my money?
519
00:38:48,330 --> 00:38:49,690
I don't make that decision.
520
00:38:51,810 --> 00:38:54,670
I think you'd better leave.
521
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,760
So interesting in that menu.
522
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,520
Have you ever had anything but steak
here?
523
00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:28,900
Well,
524
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:33,160
anyway, the floors in the living room
looked absolutely beautiful after I had
525
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,160
them resanded.
526
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:39,080
But they were so old that when we moved
the piano in, it went right through the
527
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,220
floor. Well, I could barely get the
courage to tell Sidney because she loved
528
00:39:42,220 --> 00:39:43,220
what I did so much.
529
00:39:43,820 --> 00:39:48,200
So, Buckley comes home, and you know he
always had a few cocktails on the way.
530
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:50,470
Well, he doesn't say a word.
531
00:39:51,450 --> 00:39:53,770
Just sits down at the piano and starts
to play.
532
00:39:54,430 --> 00:39:58,970
So, he finishes playing, gets up, looks
at the piano and says,
533
00:39:59,870 --> 00:40:02,150
Is this piano out of tune?
534
00:40:05,810 --> 00:40:07,190
We laughed so hard.
535
00:40:14,730 --> 00:40:15,950
Sweetheart. I'm sorry.
536
00:40:23,150 --> 00:40:24,270
It's just nothing changes.
537
00:40:25,050 --> 00:40:26,330
I mean, it's been months.
538
00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:30,570
It's like they know something happened,
but they don't want to know. Not for $35
539
00:40:30,570 --> 00:40:33,910
,000. Please, not tonight. What are you
going to have?
540
00:40:34,130 --> 00:40:35,270
Listen to me for a minute.
541
00:40:36,970 --> 00:40:38,790
There may be another dead child.
542
00:40:39,890 --> 00:40:40,890
Her own.
543
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:45,990
We're finally out together. Let's just
have a good time.
544
00:40:46,730 --> 00:40:48,490
People are starting to talk.
545
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,740
People are starting to talk? That's your
reaction?
546
00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:57,840
I've seen this woman. She did it. Well,
you don't know that. I think I do.
547
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,840
I don't want to talk about it. Well, I
need to talk about it.
548
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,760
Look, I'm sorry. I don't know for sure
that there was a murder. But this woman
549
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,580
was taking care of my client's child.
And that child is dead. Are you
550
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,280
Are you listening at all?
551
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,760
Mothers don't go around killing their
children, Stephen. What is wrong with
552
00:41:17,940 --> 00:41:19,840
Of course it happens. Everything
happens.
553
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,480
to normal people.
554
00:41:22,060 --> 00:41:23,540
What? A girl fell.
555
00:41:24,020 --> 00:41:27,300
And maybe the woman taking care of her
had some other tragedy in her life. Most
556
00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:30,160
people would feel sorry for her. Now,
why don't you, Stephen?
557
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,520
Why does it start you thinking about
murder and people killing their own
558
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,460
children? And, honey, what does this
have to do with us anyway?
559
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:40,840
With us?
560
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,040
This is us.
561
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:45,640
Everything's perfect.
562
00:41:46,890 --> 00:41:49,890
And things like what happened to Melissa
Wilkins don't happen to our friends,
563
00:41:49,950 --> 00:41:50,950
except they do happen.
564
00:41:51,530 --> 00:41:54,850
And I can't just walk away and say it
couldn't have happened because it could
565
00:41:54,850 --> 00:41:55,850
have happened.
566
00:42:01,870 --> 00:42:02,870
Hey.
567
00:42:06,330 --> 00:42:07,430
I want you back.
568
00:42:09,550 --> 00:42:12,850
I want our life back. I want to do the
things we used to do.
569
00:42:15,370 --> 00:42:18,230
Does this make me a bad person because I
just want to be with you?
570
00:42:20,270 --> 00:42:24,510
I'm sorry, I don't want to talk about
murder and people killing each other in
571
00:42:24,510 --> 00:42:25,510
dead bodies.
572
00:42:26,210 --> 00:42:28,170
But you don't seem to have time for
anything else.
573
00:42:28,910 --> 00:42:33,070
Not for me, for Christian, or your
practice. So please leave this thing
574
00:42:54,380 --> 00:42:58,020
The Court TV movie, Death Benefits, will
return in a moment.
575
00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:02,320
Tomorrow on Profiler. An enemy from
Sam's past returns.
576
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,020
If he's being copycatted, we should lead
us to the killer. He might be up to his
577
00:43:06,020 --> 00:43:07,020
old tricks again.
578
00:43:07,060 --> 00:43:09,000
You will eat your words on that one.
579
00:43:09,220 --> 00:43:11,120
Ali Walker stars in Profiler.
580
00:43:11,500 --> 00:43:13,220
Tomorrow at 7 on Court TV.
581
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,100
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582
00:43:18,580 --> 00:43:21,540
He made these special boxes that they
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583
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,780
Send a piece from here to...
584
00:43:24,850 --> 00:43:29,010
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585
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586
00:43:32,830 --> 00:43:42,530
wonder
587
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how you eat this.
588
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We now return to the Court TV movie.
630
00:46:17,550 --> 00:46:18,550
Death benefit.
631
00:46:41,950 --> 00:46:45,770
I cleared your calendar for the day.
You've got some driving to do.
632
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,020
She did lose a daughter.
633
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,480
You're right on that.
634
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:52,540
Accident of some kind.
635
00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:57,820
The man to talk to is the Jefferson
County deputy, D .K. Graham.
636
00:46:59,900 --> 00:47:00,900
Come on in.
637
00:47:01,620 --> 00:47:05,260
The little girl's name was Cynthia. She
was five years old.
638
00:47:07,060 --> 00:47:09,240
I had just started the job then.
639
00:47:09,700 --> 00:47:11,400
Maybe 15 years ago.
640
00:47:11,900 --> 00:47:13,820
You still got her file in your office?
641
00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:17,470
Yeah.
642
00:47:18,030 --> 00:47:20,350
I don't know if we ever really got to
the bottom of it.
643
00:47:22,030 --> 00:47:24,830
Um... He dropped us.
644
00:47:27,610 --> 00:47:29,390
That's the rope the little girl was
hanged with.
645
00:47:33,790 --> 00:47:37,550
It was a terrible day. It was gray and
drizzling, barely above freezing.
646
00:47:38,250 --> 00:47:40,550
I was on patrol in the car, and I got a
call.
647
00:47:41,150 --> 00:47:43,110
Come out to an accident at the Reardon
Farm.
648
00:47:43,570 --> 00:47:45,030
Well, I pull up here at the barn.
649
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,740
Virginia was standing out here in the
rain.
650
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,320
The only way I could make sense out of
it is the little girl climbed up on the
651
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,100
tractor and got caught on the rope.
652
00:47:56,260 --> 00:47:57,620
There wasn't anyone else around?
653
00:47:58,240 --> 00:47:59,580
The boys were all in school.
654
00:48:00,100 --> 00:48:01,100
Cynthia wasn't.
655
00:48:01,340 --> 00:48:02,520
Well, we looked into that.
656
00:48:03,180 --> 00:48:04,660
The child had a pony.
657
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,560
Virginia took her out to ride.
658
00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:11,440
She wasn't feeling good that morning.
659
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,020
But she still rode her pony.
660
00:48:16,650 --> 00:48:17,690
I didn't see the house.
661
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:19,390
Where's the house?
662
00:48:19,890 --> 00:48:22,050
House burned clean to the ground a
couple months later.
663
00:49:14,610 --> 00:49:15,610
Hey, it's Keeney.
664
00:49:16,330 --> 00:49:18,830
I think I have something that might help
us reopen this thing.
665
00:49:19,210 --> 00:49:22,730
All right, just hold on a minute,
Keeney. I've got the McGinnises right
666
00:49:22,730 --> 00:49:23,730
my office.
667
00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:25,950
They're in your office?
668
00:49:26,170 --> 00:49:30,790
It's been eight months, and we have
answered every question that we have
669
00:49:30,790 --> 00:49:32,630
asked. You haven't answered mine.
670
00:49:33,830 --> 00:49:35,350
How's the real estate business?
671
00:49:35,610 --> 00:49:39,870
Look, this is not doing us any good.
We're not in any position... Wait a
672
00:49:40,750 --> 00:49:43,910
A 19 -year -old girl died. You want to
talk to me about position? What's the
673
00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:44,910
matter? She wasn't important enough?
674
00:49:45,330 --> 00:49:50,490
From what I am told, Mr. Keeney, you've
been instrumental in keeping this so
675
00:49:50,490 --> 00:49:51,970
-called investigation alive.
676
00:49:52,770 --> 00:49:56,810
I've just informed the deputy and the
DA's office that they have two choices.
677
00:49:57,030 --> 00:50:01,030
Either they can bring charges, which
they assure me that they are not
678
00:50:01,030 --> 00:50:03,570
to do, or we can close this case.
679
00:50:04,250 --> 00:50:07,410
Otherwise, I am filing suit for...
680
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,940
Wrongful denial of benefits.
681
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:17,520
And I am naming you and your client as
defendants. Bring on the charges.
682
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,860
The fact is, that girl fell.
683
00:50:26,420 --> 00:50:30,220
And there is no way that you can prove
that it happened any different than from
684
00:50:30,220 --> 00:50:31,220
what I say.
685
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:36,340
And correct me if I am wrong, but as far
as Monterey County is concerned...
686
00:50:38,380 --> 00:50:41,120
There's no further reason to keep this
case open.
687
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,180
Christian, turn that thing off now.
688
00:51:07,660 --> 00:51:11,320
The Court TV movie, Death Benefit, will
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689
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726
00:53:46,730 --> 00:53:49,610
You were supposed to be in that bath a
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727
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an hour ago.
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No.
731
00:53:54,770 --> 00:53:57,790
You were supposed to be in the bath and
ready for bed over an hour ago, right?
732
00:53:58,250 --> 00:53:59,250
That's what I said.
733
00:54:00,230 --> 00:54:01,590
All right, we're trying this now. Hey!
734
00:54:01,850 --> 00:54:05,070
You told me you were getting ready for
bed, and I trusted you to do that. And
735
00:54:05,070 --> 00:54:08,150
you told me you'd have time to do
something, and I trusted you to do that.
736
00:54:09,330 --> 00:54:10,330
Fine, I'm sorry.
737
00:54:10,830 --> 00:54:11,830
Whatever.
738
00:54:11,890 --> 00:54:12,990
What do you mean, whatever?
739
00:56:44,750 --> 00:56:46,230
I wasn't sure if I should call or not.
740
00:56:48,030 --> 00:56:49,030
Sweetheart.
741
00:56:50,490 --> 00:56:52,370
I just can't get it out of my head.
742
00:56:54,410 --> 00:56:56,090
Now would you call me over to tell me?
743
00:56:57,510 --> 00:56:58,510
No.
744
00:57:00,670 --> 00:57:03,530
I just don't know how anything works
anymore.
745
00:57:04,190 --> 00:57:08,290
I don't know the rules.
746
00:57:09,910 --> 00:57:11,370
Maybe it's time to stop.
747
00:57:56,839 --> 00:57:57,839
Hey.
748
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:58,960
Good morning.
749
00:57:59,220 --> 00:58:01,420
Max Wolf's been trying to reach you. Get
him on the line.
750
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,280
And, uh, listen, when you get the
chance, maybe you ought to box up all
751
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:05,700
files in Louie and Wilkins' business.
752
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:07,440
Box them?
753
00:58:07,540 --> 00:58:08,680
Yeah, come on, I'm not a cop.
754
00:58:08,940 --> 00:58:11,420
I mean, it's a place in two states, Cam,
that gave me a stick. How am I supposed
755
00:58:11,420 --> 00:58:12,420
to?
756
00:58:12,540 --> 00:58:13,540
You sure?
757
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:15,920
Yeah, I'm sure.
758
00:58:29,230 --> 00:58:30,610
We're going to have to revisit the
bioclave IPO.
759
00:58:30,970 --> 00:58:33,510
Those 10B5 materials are going to get us
blown out of the water.
760
00:58:34,310 --> 00:58:38,810
Okay. Well, maybe the finance is not
where it should be, but we'll finesse it
761
00:58:38,810 --> 00:58:39,810
the perspective.
762
00:58:40,050 --> 00:58:43,690
Besides, is the SEC really going to ask
about due diligence?
763
00:58:44,210 --> 00:58:46,670
I mean, I've talked to Artie and Gaines
McKenna.
764
00:58:47,050 --> 00:58:49,930
He's pretty sure it'll apply, but it's
going to have to be a way.
765
00:58:52,010 --> 00:58:54,970
I'm going to have to get back to you on
that.
766
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:08,620
We looked at these a hundred times.
767
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,040
We didn't see it. We didn't see it.
768
00:59:10,300 --> 00:59:12,880
If these people are trying to kill
Melissa, why did they take pictures?
769
00:59:13,500 --> 00:59:15,440
Because they had to establish they were
sightseeing.
770
00:59:16,380 --> 00:59:18,760
They didn't want someone thinking they
just dragged her up on a cliff and
771
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:19,678
her off.
772
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:20,680
Here, look at this.
773
00:59:20,900 --> 00:59:21,900
Here.
774
00:59:21,980 --> 00:59:22,980
Look at this.
775
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:24,680
All the way down to her feet. Why?
776
00:59:25,260 --> 00:59:26,880
Because they had to show the high heels.
777
00:59:28,180 --> 00:59:29,180
Okay, come here.
778
00:59:30,020 --> 00:59:31,020
Now look at these.
779
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:32,600
Look at this, this, and this.
780
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:34,840
These are nothing. These are scenery.
781
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,420
Yeah, but look at them here on the disc.
What are the negatives? Right there.
782
00:59:38,980 --> 00:59:41,300
They were taken after Melissa fell off
the cliff.
783
00:59:42,980 --> 00:59:47,200
Now, Virginia's on record as saying she
took the last picture of BJ and Melissa,
784
00:59:47,340 --> 00:59:51,040
then she and BJ walked to the car,
didn't hear a sound, turned around, and
785
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,040
Melissa was gone.
786
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,220
Well, and this should be the last
picture on the disc.
787
00:59:57,460 --> 01:00:02,520
But she lied. Virginia lied. She stood
there taking pictures after. After
788
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:03,640
Melissa fell off the cliff.
789
01:00:05,340 --> 01:00:08,400
I mean, we didn't even look at him.
Melissa's not in the picture, so we put
790
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:09,400
aside.
791
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,100
But these are people who will kill for
$35 ,000.
792
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,080
She didn't work. He lives on a pension.
793
01:00:15,340 --> 01:00:16,920
I mean, they watch their pennies.
794
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:23,320
And they have habits, too. They eat
everything on their plate. They take all
795
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,280
pictures in the roll before they have
them developed.
796
01:00:25,980 --> 01:00:30,600
So she takes the damn pictures to stand
there.
797
01:00:31,339 --> 01:00:34,420
snapping off pictures before she goes
for help.
798
01:00:39,060 --> 01:00:42,140
I thought you were through with this.
799
01:00:45,220 --> 01:00:46,420
That's what I'm trying to do.
800
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,120
I'm trying to get through with it.
801
01:00:57,420 --> 01:01:00,780
Home of a Mr. Coates who was once
married to a woman named Virginia.
802
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:07,280
They had two sons named... Well, is
there anyone there who could help me?
803
01:01:08,620 --> 01:01:13,860
Do you know of this family? Are you
related to them in any... Well, thank
804
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,200
I picked a book out of the library today
on serial killers.
805
01:01:19,860 --> 01:01:21,080
They all have similar traits.
806
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,140
Setting fires was one of them.
807
01:01:23,460 --> 01:01:24,960
Her house burned down in Kentucky.
808
01:01:25,610 --> 01:01:26,810
The house burned down in California.
809
01:01:27,570 --> 01:01:28,750
It's two dead children.
810
01:01:29,110 --> 01:01:31,530
Oh, man. How much does it take for one
to qualify?
811
01:01:32,750 --> 01:01:35,110
Fortune cookie?
812
01:01:35,410 --> 01:01:36,510
Yeah. Howl.
813
01:01:37,650 --> 01:01:38,650
Good catch.
814
01:01:40,150 --> 01:01:42,510
I got it. I make them.
815
01:01:45,110 --> 01:01:46,310
What the hell's going on here?
816
01:01:48,950 --> 01:01:50,470
Got it. Well.
817
01:01:55,150 --> 01:01:57,050
Oh, thank you. I'm going to finish this
later.
818
01:01:59,930 --> 01:02:00,930
Really?
819
01:02:03,470 --> 01:02:05,090
Chinese? No, thanks.
820
01:02:09,710 --> 01:02:10,710
Listen,
821
01:02:15,690 --> 01:02:20,030
Steve, you know, you and I will go back
a long way.
822
01:02:21,260 --> 01:02:24,420
If we're out having a couple beers, I'd
say, I love you, man.
823
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,540
And I do.
824
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,720
But you are getting way too caught up in
this thing.
825
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:32,420
It's not doing you any good.
826
01:02:32,860 --> 01:02:37,000
It's not doing your reputation any good.
And it sure as hell is not doing us any
827
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,000
good.
828
01:02:39,300 --> 01:02:40,300
You know me.
829
01:02:40,620 --> 01:02:41,620
You know the firm.
830
01:02:42,780 --> 01:02:44,620
My client's daughter was murdered.
831
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,100
Do yourself a favor.
832
01:02:49,690 --> 01:02:51,790
And get off this kick while you've still
got a career.
833
01:02:54,310 --> 01:02:56,430
You remember the sit -in at the student
union, huh?
834
01:02:56,770 --> 01:03:00,430
Remember? No, we wanted to make a
difference. We had to demonstrate.
835
01:03:00,890 --> 01:03:04,350
Take the law in our own hands. Well, we
were stoned, all right? It was just our
836
01:03:04,350 --> 01:03:05,750
getting stoned again. We were seeing
things clearer.
837
01:03:06,570 --> 01:03:08,890
Well, stoned. I didn't even know what
time it was then.
838
01:03:10,110 --> 01:03:14,350
What I do know is if you don't build
ours, we don't make money.
839
01:03:15,770 --> 01:03:17,370
What did it become all about money?
840
01:03:17,710 --> 01:03:19,110
It's always been about money.
841
01:03:20,230 --> 01:03:22,630
You want to trade that jag in for a VW
bus?
842
01:03:23,750 --> 01:03:27,530
What, you want to give up this view for
some cubicle at legal aid?
843
01:03:27,810 --> 01:03:29,690
Stop the ideological crap.
844
01:03:31,550 --> 01:03:32,550
All right?
845
01:03:39,370 --> 01:03:40,810
The partners have been talking.
846
01:03:42,850 --> 01:03:46,870
And if I were you, I would build a lot
of hours real soon.
847
01:03:53,290 --> 01:03:54,290
I don't know if I can do that.
848
01:04:00,030 --> 01:04:04,910
Well, when you join the Peace Corps,
send me a postcard.
849
01:04:11,690 --> 01:04:18,490
And I am looking for a gentleman by the
name
850
01:04:18,490 --> 01:04:23,230
of... No, it's... Mr. Coates, who was
once married to a woman named
851
01:04:23,230 --> 01:04:24,230
Okay, here's the basic procedure.
852
01:04:24,450 --> 01:04:27,010
We can sue the insurance company that
frees the money.
853
01:04:30,150 --> 01:04:31,370
Well, not exactly.
854
01:04:32,770 --> 01:04:35,330
That would be a civil suit for money
damages, but we could get her on the
855
01:04:35,330 --> 01:04:36,330
witness stand.
856
01:04:37,090 --> 01:04:41,190
I... I know you don't care about the
money of the land, but if we bring the
857
01:04:41,190 --> 01:04:45,010
suit, then Virginia McGinnis has got to
go into that courtroom and explain why
858
01:04:45,010 --> 01:04:47,490
she's entitled to that money, and we get
to question her.
859
01:04:53,290 --> 01:04:54,790
Glenn, that's not necessary.
860
01:04:56,010 --> 01:04:57,770
We're going to see this through. Uh
-huh.
861
01:05:01,530 --> 01:05:02,530
Uh -huh.
862
01:05:04,950 --> 01:05:05,950
Okay.
863
01:05:06,710 --> 01:05:07,770
Bye. Bye -bye.
864
01:05:18,410 --> 01:05:19,410
Hey.
865
01:05:20,630 --> 01:05:22,790
I thought you said that you were, um...
866
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:26,540
Through with this
867
01:05:26,540 --> 01:05:37,680
Hope
868
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:43,480
you find what you need
869
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,900
What? I found him.
870
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:32,920
Who?
871
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,920
Dick Coates. He wasn't too keen about
talking. It's an hour's drive, and I
872
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:39,020
didn't have time to pack lunch.
873
01:06:40,740 --> 01:06:42,840
Did anyone ever tell you you're
fantastic?
874
01:06:43,540 --> 01:06:44,800
Not often enough.
875
01:07:23,220 --> 01:07:25,040
Hello? You the fellow from Louisville?
876
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,120
Yeah, Stephen King.
877
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:30,260
Appreciate you seeing me.
878
01:07:30,940 --> 01:07:31,980
This here's about Virginia?
879
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:34,600
Yes, it is.
880
01:07:35,140 --> 01:07:36,140
Yes, it is.
881
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:38,420
You were married to her, right?
882
01:07:38,700 --> 01:07:39,700
Right, yours.
883
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:42,680
What's she done now?
884
01:07:45,980 --> 01:07:47,420
Well, she's, uh...
885
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:55,400
It's possible that she murdered a young
girl about 15 years ago.
886
01:08:03,300 --> 01:08:05,600
I ain't seen Virginia more than that,
mister.
887
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,140
That ain't my kid.
888
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,160
Don't be anyone's. That's the truth.
889
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:13,120
Anyone's.
890
01:08:20,750 --> 01:08:21,850
I had the boys, yes, sir.
891
01:08:26,729 --> 01:08:29,130
I walked out of there. I never went
back.
892
01:08:31,870 --> 01:08:33,590
Well, can you tell me anything about
her?
893
01:08:36,689 --> 01:08:39,370
Well, she ain't something I like talking
about. I can tell you that.
894
01:08:40,430 --> 01:08:41,830
Crazy from the day I met her.
895
01:08:46,270 --> 01:08:48,149
Then you could tell me about that.
896
01:08:52,510 --> 01:08:58,229
Well, I was logging with a friend, and
we seen the sky was all lit up.
897
01:08:58,770 --> 01:09:03,210
Fire, you know, but don't get lit up
like that. That's going to be a pretty
898
01:09:03,210 --> 01:09:04,210
fire.
899
01:09:05,590 --> 01:09:10,750
You can just stand in there, eyes and
face all lit up from the fire.
900
01:09:12,050 --> 01:09:13,930
She was pretty back then, real pretty.
901
01:09:15,090 --> 01:09:17,330
Well, she's excited.
902
01:09:18,350 --> 01:09:21,630
She likes fire. It's like it's done
something to her inside.
903
01:09:25,890 --> 01:09:28,250
Well, sir, next thing I know, we're
married and she's pregnant.
904
01:09:33,109 --> 01:09:34,130
Something else.
905
01:09:39,010 --> 01:09:40,689
Seemed there was something wrong right
from the start.
906
01:09:41,729 --> 01:09:43,990
She was getting shoes and dresses.
907
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:45,538
Fancy underwear.
908
01:09:45,540 --> 01:09:48,560
I wouldn't make them but a couple bucks
a week. And then all this silverware.
909
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:52,120
On special.
910
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:53,160
That's what she said.
911
01:09:53,460 --> 01:09:57,020
And Elva Platt, she ain't never had
nothing to do with Elva Platt until that
912
01:09:57,020 --> 01:10:00,960
night. The minute she sees that silver,
her eyes just go big.
913
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,640
She says it's hers and it got stolen.
And what's it doing here?
914
01:10:09,820 --> 01:10:11,460
The gall of it's what got me.
915
01:10:13,710 --> 01:10:17,270
Steal the woman's silver and then invite
her into your house to look at it.
916
01:10:19,470 --> 01:10:20,490
She kept it.
917
01:10:21,130 --> 01:10:22,570
I stood up for her, you know.
918
01:10:22,790 --> 01:10:26,050
I can't have no stranger come in my
house and insult my wife.
919
01:10:28,330 --> 01:10:29,610
You think she's grateful?
920
01:10:30,970 --> 01:10:31,970
Not Virginia.
921
01:10:33,410 --> 01:10:34,810
It weren't enough for her.
922
01:10:35,470 --> 01:10:41,790
Whatever I said to Mrs. Platt, it
weren't enough. You didn't do, you
923
01:10:41,790 --> 01:10:42,790
nothing.
924
01:10:48,110 --> 01:10:49,770
So it just goes on like that.
925
01:10:50,070 --> 01:10:52,850
Until one night, I smell smoke.
926
01:10:53,330 --> 01:10:54,970
Her own husband in there.
927
01:10:56,050 --> 01:10:57,050
Her boys.
928
01:11:15,310 --> 01:11:17,170
Was that the last time you saw her?
929
01:11:18,860 --> 01:11:22,600
An insurance man came around to where I
was living a few days later.
930
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:27,120
He gave me a check.
931
01:11:29,100 --> 01:11:31,380
I tell him, I don't have no insurance.
932
01:11:33,500 --> 01:11:35,120
He says, yes, you do.
933
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,420
So that's me in Virginia.
934
01:11:44,940 --> 01:11:47,240
We started with fire, we ended with
fire.
935
01:11:50,250 --> 01:11:52,930
Mr. Coates, would you be willing to
testify to this in a court of law?
936
01:12:00,670 --> 01:12:04,690
I'd sooner crawl through hell than to
come face to face with that woman again.
937
01:12:06,150 --> 01:12:07,310
It would help us a lot.
938
01:12:12,050 --> 01:12:13,430
She don't never let go.
939
01:12:15,770 --> 01:12:16,770
Will you testify?
940
01:12:25,770 --> 01:12:27,290
I'll do what I have to do.
941
01:12:49,690 --> 01:12:51,770
I got your little pamphlet.
942
01:12:53,410 --> 01:12:54,410
What'd you think?
943
01:12:54,810 --> 01:12:55,810
It's impressive.
944
01:12:57,310 --> 01:12:58,570
You think we got a case?
945
01:12:59,410 --> 01:13:04,250
Well, I got a level with you. The way
things are up here right now, we might
946
01:13:04,250 --> 01:13:05,730
take this case with a signed confession.
947
01:13:06,150 --> 01:13:10,130
This office has lost two cases this last
year to the tune of a couple of million
948
01:13:10,130 --> 01:13:12,890
dollars, and the taxpayers are none too
happy about that.
949
01:13:13,810 --> 01:13:18,670
And this case is, um, it's too
circumstantial. The public's already got
950
01:13:18,670 --> 01:13:21,310
taste in their mouth, and we would get
crucified in the press.
951
01:13:22,350 --> 01:13:23,570
I'm sorry, we can't help.
952
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,360
So this is about politics.
953
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,620
No, there are just not too many true
believers around here these days.
954
01:13:29,220 --> 01:13:30,280
What do you believe?
955
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,060
That decision's already been made.
956
01:13:34,740 --> 01:13:36,120
And it wasn't mine to make.
957
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:38,080
I am sorry.
958
01:13:52,460 --> 01:13:56,640
One small step for man, one giant leap
for mankind.
959
01:13:57,860 --> 01:13:58,860
Something like that.
960
01:14:00,260 --> 01:14:03,100
All they did was walk on the moon?
961
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,020
They played a little golf.
962
01:14:05,860 --> 01:14:07,740
Is that when you're happy?
963
01:14:09,660 --> 01:14:10,660
Yeah.
964
01:14:15,060 --> 01:14:19,500
You know, there's going to be some big
changes for you and I.
965
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,480
Which is why I need you to hang in there
with me for a while.
966
01:14:24,260 --> 01:14:25,260
Nicole.
967
01:14:26,900 --> 01:14:28,660
Well, I'm tired of my own practice.
968
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,580
I'm going to be very busy for a while.
969
01:14:33,060 --> 01:14:34,420
It's not much of a change.
970
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:47,440
Do you have any idea how much I wish I
had all the time in the world to spend
971
01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:48,440
with you?
972
01:14:50,700 --> 01:14:51,700
But I don't.
973
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:53,440
Not right now, anyway.
974
01:14:57,260 --> 01:14:58,480
That one was fun.
975
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,000
Oh, we just want different things.
976
01:15:04,820 --> 01:15:05,820
Right now.
977
01:15:06,900 --> 01:15:10,360
Which is why I also need you to hang in
there with me. Not give up on me.
978
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:11,760
Okay?
979
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,060
Remember when we talked about putting
the criminals in jail?
980
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:18,400
And you said that'd be really great.
981
01:15:19,020 --> 01:15:24,700
Right? Yeah, I think I'm gonna take so
long
982
01:15:24,700 --> 01:15:38,120
Hey,
983
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:49,040
hey
984
01:15:50,670 --> 01:15:52,090
So they find you a new partner yet?
985
01:15:52,890 --> 01:15:55,490
I haven't decided what I'm going to do
yet.
986
01:15:56,610 --> 01:15:58,130
Well, I know of a position.
987
01:15:58,350 --> 01:16:01,310
The pay's lousy, but the guy's an
obsessive workaholic.
988
01:16:01,990 --> 01:16:06,230
You know that there's no one I'd rather
work for.
989
01:16:07,330 --> 01:16:11,070
But the money here...
990
01:16:11,070 --> 01:16:18,050
Sarah. Don't start
991
01:16:18,050 --> 01:16:19,730
with the mushy stuff.
992
01:16:20,060 --> 01:16:21,060
Keeney.
993
01:16:22,420 --> 01:16:24,680
Actually, I was going to ask you to take
these boxes out of here for me.
994
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:32,360
I believe you don't work for me anymore,
if I recall.
995
01:16:34,060 --> 01:16:37,940
Keeney. Mr. Keeney, this is Mac
Vandenberg of the San Diego Police
996
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,880
I've been told you have some interest in
the McGinnis case.
997
01:16:45,820 --> 01:16:47,040
What can I do for you?
998
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:48,600
Other way around, Counselor.
999
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:52,660
I just busted a dirtbag by the name of
Jimmy Coates.
1000
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:55,700
I thought he was already in prison.
1001
01:16:56,060 --> 01:16:57,140
Out three days.
1002
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:01,360
I busted him the last time, too. This is
the kind that never stays out long.
1003
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:06,520
Anyway, I was having some fun, telling
him how messed up his life is, and he
1004
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,420
tells me he's not worried, because he's
coming into a lot of money.
1005
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,040
I say, no kidding.
1006
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,640
Tell me, how does a loser like you come
up with a way to make money? He says,
1007
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,540
not me, jerk. My old lady, his mom.
1008
01:17:18,970 --> 01:17:22,030
She took out an insurance policy on some
chick, and the chick died.
1009
01:17:22,810 --> 01:17:23,810
Convenient, right?
1010
01:17:24,490 --> 01:17:28,470
Anyway, he tells me that some crazy
lawyer's running around saying it's
1011
01:17:28,930 --> 01:17:32,290
But that's all going to be wrapped up
real soon, and then Mom gets the check.
1012
01:17:33,430 --> 01:17:36,250
So, I checked it out.
1013
01:17:37,610 --> 01:17:38,610
Talked to Monterey.
1014
01:17:39,750 --> 01:17:41,170
They told me there's no homicide.
1015
01:17:42,030 --> 01:17:43,750
They also told me you believe there is.
1016
01:17:44,310 --> 01:17:45,570
Well, I can give you the highlights.
1017
01:17:47,310 --> 01:17:52,460
So... McGinnis woman buys insurance, and
the next day my client's daughter's
1018
01:17:52,460 --> 01:17:56,780
dead. And the beneficiary is your friend
Jimmy, because he was the fiancé.
1019
01:17:57,020 --> 01:17:59,380
Only my client never heard of the
engagement.
1020
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:01,880
What do you think?
1021
01:18:02,980 --> 01:18:05,500
I think sometimes kids don't tell their
parents everything.
1022
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:08,320
I'm assuming you've got more.
1023
01:18:08,580 --> 01:18:10,860
Yeah, I've got two file cabinets full.
1024
01:18:11,700 --> 01:18:13,080
Why don't you take this to the DA?
1025
01:18:13,660 --> 01:18:15,060
Well, we already did.
1026
01:18:15,740 --> 01:18:16,740
They turned us down.
1027
01:18:17,230 --> 01:18:18,310
Well, that's Monterey.
1028
01:18:18,970 --> 01:18:20,050
This is San Diego.
1029
01:18:20,570 --> 01:18:23,270
Get out here with everything you've got,
and maybe we can sell it.
1030
01:18:23,950 --> 01:18:26,710
Well, if it was that easy, I would have
taken it to the D .A. here in
1031
01:18:26,710 --> 01:18:29,230
Louisville. The murder happened in
Monterey.
1032
01:18:29,510 --> 01:18:31,870
I don't mean to tell you how to do your
job, Counselor.
1033
01:18:32,230 --> 01:18:36,310
If there was a conspiracy, it started
when she bought the insurance policy.
1034
01:18:36,950 --> 01:18:39,930
If she bought it here, that puts it in
our jurisdiction.
1035
01:18:53,480 --> 01:18:54,480
Mr. Keeney?
1036
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,260
Yeah. Mack Vandenberg. Oh, hi.
1037
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,640
Prosecutor's name is Sylvia Guzman.
She's expecting us. Okay.
1038
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:04,720
What the hell is all this?
1039
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:06,460
You asked me to bring the evidence.
1040
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:08,100
Want to grab those two poems?
1041
01:19:08,900 --> 01:19:09,900
Thank you.
1042
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,220
Well, you certainly do your homework.
1043
01:19:35,440 --> 01:19:40,520
Now, why don't you tell me how I explain
to the taxpayers why we're taking this
1044
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:41,520
case from Monterey Path?
1045
01:19:42,820 --> 01:19:45,100
Well, I assume you'll take it because
it's been a murder.
1046
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,080
I'm afraid that's not good enough.
1047
01:19:49,220 --> 01:19:50,220
Well, how about this?
1048
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:54,400
A young girl is dead for no reason,
except that a woman who makes a living
1049
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:57,740
collecting insurance claims killed her.
If she isn't stopped, she'll do it
1050
01:19:57,740 --> 01:19:58,659
again.
1051
01:19:58,660 --> 01:20:00,220
Monterey didn't think they could prove
that.
1052
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:05,260
Well, this isn't Monterey.
1053
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:16,540
I say all of Virginia not only killed
Melissa, but quite possibly her
1054
01:20:16,620 --> 01:20:19,960
her husband, and her father as well. And
what was it, 11 fires?
1055
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:21,860
And Monterey didn't think they had a
case?
1056
01:20:22,410 --> 01:20:25,010
Listen, have you had a chance to look at
the transcripts of the McGinnis
1057
01:20:25,010 --> 01:20:26,390
interview with the insurance
investigator?
1058
01:20:26,690 --> 01:20:29,870
Oh, I think compulsive liar just about
sums it up.
1059
01:20:30,130 --> 01:20:33,890
At first she said that she and Melissa
were taking a day trip to Mexico. Then
1060
01:20:33,890 --> 01:20:37,490
she says they were getting insurance to
obtain a visa to go to Mexico. She put
1061
01:20:37,490 --> 01:20:40,590
the dog in the kennel before the trip.
Then she says she had no dog. I mean,
1062
01:20:40,590 --> 01:20:42,170
this lady, she's a piece of work.
1063
01:20:42,410 --> 01:20:44,910
We finally got a hold of the neighbor.
The one who was supposedly the witness
1064
01:20:44,910 --> 01:20:45,910
the insurance application.
1065
01:20:46,090 --> 01:20:48,610
It took us a while. The name was
misspelled on the form.
1066
01:20:49,230 --> 01:20:50,870
Not many people misspell their own name.
1067
01:20:51,110 --> 01:20:52,430
The signature was forged.
1068
01:20:52,870 --> 01:20:54,330
One more lie, she's going to have to
explain.
1069
01:20:55,350 --> 01:20:57,350
Dare I say, this case looks good.
1070
01:20:57,870 --> 01:20:58,870
Hmm. Oh.
1071
01:21:06,230 --> 01:21:07,910
Yes. Virginia McGinnis?
1072
01:21:08,250 --> 01:21:11,630
Yes. I'm Detective Vandenberg, San Diego
Police Department.
1073
01:21:12,150 --> 01:21:13,210
I have a warrant.
1074
01:21:13,650 --> 01:21:14,970
You're under arrest for murder.
1075
01:21:15,190 --> 01:21:16,750
You have the right to remain silent.
1076
01:21:17,310 --> 01:21:20,830
I should bring some clothes with me,
shouldn't I?
1077
01:21:21,270 --> 01:21:22,950
I'll be back in just a minute.
1078
01:21:54,090 --> 01:21:57,110
The coats killed himself.
1079
01:21:57,310 --> 01:21:58,670
How do you know coats killed himself?
1080
01:21:59,090 --> 01:22:02,050
Maybe it was someone on the grassy knoll
trying to protect dear old mom.
1081
01:22:02,770 --> 01:22:03,810
He left a note.
1082
01:22:04,810 --> 01:22:06,610
VJ may be joining the club soon.
1083
01:22:07,330 --> 01:22:10,130
They transferred him to the prison
hospital this morning.
1084
01:22:11,290 --> 01:22:14,230
How sick is he? Well, he ain't been
doing much dancing.
1085
01:22:15,210 --> 01:22:16,210
Here.
1086
01:22:16,610 --> 01:22:17,630
VJ's medical office?
1087
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:23,980
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a
minute.
1088
01:22:24,260 --> 01:22:28,360
These are psychological records, not
medical records.
1089
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:30,280
Triggered information.
1090
01:22:31,700 --> 01:22:32,760
Might have a problem.
1091
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:38,640
So?
1092
01:22:39,060 --> 01:22:40,060
Misconduct.
1093
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:44,700
Misconduct? When I was sent the wrong
medical records for BJ and proceeded to
1094
01:22:44,700 --> 01:22:45,780
open and read them.
1095
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,300
Not only is the jury not going to hear
that BJ thought Virginia was trying to
1096
01:22:50,300 --> 01:22:54,160
poison him, but the judge decided that I
should be penalized for reading my own
1097
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:57,680
mail. So our request for the death
penalty has been denied.
1098
01:22:57,940 --> 01:22:59,560
The best we can hope for is life without
parole.
1099
01:22:59,980 --> 01:23:03,820
All right, we can still use Cynthia's
hanging and the pattern of insurance
1100
01:23:03,820 --> 01:23:05,520
claims? There's a rule on that yet.
1101
01:23:06,260 --> 01:23:09,020
What a good week for the home team.
1102
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:12,840
Hi.
1103
01:23:17,550 --> 01:23:19,090
The evidence is inadmissible.
1104
01:23:20,550 --> 01:23:21,550
Which evidence?
1105
01:23:21,970 --> 01:23:22,970
All of it.
1106
01:23:23,350 --> 01:23:26,790
The judge decided that anything that
happened before Melissa's death is
1107
01:23:26,790 --> 01:23:31,490
inadmissible. That means no dead
Cynthia, no dead husband, no fires. What
1108
01:23:31,490 --> 01:23:35,430
have, though, I think there's a
jaywalking ticket or some shoplifted
1109
01:23:35,430 --> 01:23:38,950
in there somewhere. All right, we're
going to have to try BJ again. He's not
1110
01:23:38,950 --> 01:23:39,950
talking.
1111
01:23:40,230 --> 01:23:42,870
He's the only living witness to what
happened. You can see Virginia's
1112
01:23:42,870 --> 01:23:45,850
fingerprints all over him. He's here.
He's dying now. He knows he's dying.
1113
01:23:45,850 --> 01:23:48,950
not talking to you. Listen, I've been
working on this thing too long to let
1114
01:23:48,950 --> 01:23:51,150
judge throw this whole thing out. We
have to do something.
1115
01:23:52,730 --> 01:23:53,730
I'm not the enemy.
1116
01:23:58,490 --> 01:23:59,490
What do we got?
1117
01:23:59,590 --> 01:24:04,330
How you doing, man? Go ahead and record
the time of death.
1118
01:24:05,290 --> 01:24:06,670
Here you go.
1119
01:24:06,890 --> 01:24:07,890
Yes, sir.
1120
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:16,880
The cause of death?
1121
01:24:17,480 --> 01:24:18,480
Arrestory arrest?
1122
01:24:19,020 --> 01:24:20,020
Due to empathy.
1123
01:24:20,740 --> 01:24:21,619
Yes, sir.
1124
01:24:21,620 --> 01:24:24,900
I don't know. Is there some joke I don't
know about, or is this case just
1125
01:24:24,900 --> 01:24:25,940
cursed? You tried.
1126
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:27,179
You wouldn't talk.
1127
01:24:27,180 --> 01:24:29,800
I don't know how I got into this. We
don't have a case.
1128
01:24:30,140 --> 01:24:31,680
Sylvia, we'll get the same case we had
before.
1129
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:33,380
What do you want me to do, Keeney?
1130
01:24:33,780 --> 01:24:35,380
Pop BJ up on the witness stand?
1131
01:24:35,700 --> 01:24:39,460
Get testimony out of Coker's dead body?
You can win it on circumstantial, but we
1132
01:24:39,460 --> 01:24:40,720
just have to play with a few cards down.
1133
01:24:51,070 --> 01:24:52,470
Just.
1134
01:24:55,510 --> 01:24:56,510
Just.
1135
01:25:25,230 --> 01:25:30,430
Your Honor, we feel that the unique
circumstances of this case warrant
1136
01:25:30,430 --> 01:25:32,130
the jury to the cliff in Monterey.
1137
01:25:32,770 --> 01:25:35,290
Not for a field trip, but actual
testimony.
1138
01:25:36,370 --> 01:25:40,750
We realize that this 500 -mile journey
is unprecedented, and the cost would be
1139
01:25:40,750 --> 01:25:41,750
substantial.
1140
01:25:42,110 --> 01:25:47,570
But, Your Honor, if we can see and feel
what Melissa Wilkins experienced just
1141
01:25:47,570 --> 01:25:52,930
before she died, we are confident it
will take us to the truth.
1142
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,420
Sam Park there. Gotta go down another 50
feet.
1143
01:26:59,340 --> 01:27:00,340
Are you Mr. Keeney?
1144
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:03,380
Yeah. Tim O 'Grady. Good luck.
1145
01:27:04,460 --> 01:27:05,460
Thanks.
1146
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:14,760
What I did, sir, is chart the
1147
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,340
coefficient of friction of the surface.
1148
01:27:18,260 --> 01:27:23,720
Basically, it's a measurement of how
slippery it is. The looseness of the
1149
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:24,900
contributes to...
1150
01:27:27,530 --> 01:27:31,790
It's quite clear that the closer you get
to the edge, the lower the coefficient.
1151
01:27:32,190 --> 01:27:35,210
It would be very easy to fall.
1152
01:27:38,310 --> 01:27:39,310
Ms. Guzman?
1153
01:27:40,710 --> 01:27:41,850
Thank you, Your Honor.
1154
01:27:47,230 --> 01:27:50,350
Virginia McGinnis took pictures.
1155
01:27:52,310 --> 01:27:53,710
From these pictures...
1156
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:59,180
We know that they drove up the Pacific
Coast Highway to get here. And they
1157
01:27:59,180 --> 01:28:02,380
parked right over there. Right over
there where the police cars are.
1158
01:28:05,480 --> 01:28:06,480
Come on.
1159
01:28:07,220 --> 01:28:08,280
Want to try and take a look?
1160
01:28:08,940 --> 01:28:09,940
I don't know.
1161
01:28:10,220 --> 01:28:11,340
Is there anything to see?
1162
01:28:12,260 --> 01:28:14,120
Well, we'll just check that out. We'll
be right back.
1163
01:28:40,300 --> 01:28:46,300
We know that Melissa stayed in the car
because she took
1164
01:28:46,300 --> 01:28:52,820
this picture of the defendant and her
husband through the window.
1165
01:28:54,300 --> 01:28:56,020
Was she trying to tell us something?
1166
01:29:04,180 --> 01:29:05,580
Come on, honey, you're beautiful.
1167
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,080
That's why we brought you here.
1168
01:29:31,150 --> 01:29:32,490
We going to take some pictures?
1169
01:29:34,630 --> 01:29:35,630
Yes, we are.
1170
01:29:37,050 --> 01:29:39,030
Why don't you go stand over there by
that rock?
1171
01:29:39,490 --> 01:29:40,490
That'll be good, huh?
1172
01:29:40,830 --> 01:29:41,830
Yeah.
1173
01:29:42,130 --> 01:29:43,410
With the ocean behind.
1174
01:29:43,890 --> 01:29:44,648
Mm -hmm.
1175
01:29:44,650 --> 01:29:45,650
Great.
1176
01:29:50,250 --> 01:29:51,250
Take a couple.
1177
01:29:51,430 --> 01:29:52,470
I'll send one to Ma.
1178
01:29:52,770 --> 01:29:53,830
Okay, hold it right there.
1179
01:29:58,050 --> 01:29:59,050
Smile for me, baby.
1180
01:29:59,710 --> 01:30:00,710
Good.
1181
01:30:03,660 --> 01:30:08,740
By the order of the pictures on the
roll, we know that Melissa posed here
1182
01:30:08,740 --> 01:30:15,280
photograph before she and Mr. McGinnis
proceeded to that location where yet
1183
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,060
another picture was taken.
1184
01:30:17,700 --> 01:30:19,400
If the jury would follow me.
1185
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:29,600
This spot provides an excellent view of
the beach and the ocean.
1186
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:32,340
Quite safe here.
1187
01:30:32,830 --> 01:30:33,829
It's not slippery.
1188
01:30:33,830 --> 01:30:35,890
There is no reason to go any further.
1189
01:30:41,090 --> 01:30:42,530
We need another picture.
1190
01:30:44,190 --> 01:30:45,210
Right here would be good.
1191
01:30:49,350 --> 01:30:50,610
I'm a little tired.
1192
01:30:52,890 --> 01:30:54,490
Are you guys going to stop chattering?
1193
01:30:56,250 --> 01:30:57,250
Smile.
1194
01:30:59,750 --> 01:31:00,750
Good.
1195
01:31:00,970 --> 01:31:02,230
Now over here by these rocks.
1196
01:31:02,590 --> 01:31:03,870
But they did go further.
1197
01:31:04,430 --> 01:31:09,030
The next pictures will make that
perfectly clear. You can follow me when
1198
01:31:09,030 --> 01:31:10,030
finished.
1199
01:31:22,050 --> 01:31:24,430
Over here, there is no fencing.
1200
01:31:25,290 --> 01:31:28,630
The slope falls off sharply to the
cliff.
1201
01:31:29,190 --> 01:31:30,190
But...
1202
01:31:31,950 --> 01:31:33,310
This is where they came.
1203
01:32:02,250 --> 01:32:03,250
Back to the road.
1204
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:27,240
On the charge of premeditated murder, we
find the defendant, Virginia McGinnis,
1205
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:28,300
guilty.
1206
01:33:37,060 --> 01:33:43,320
On the special circumstance, murder for
profit, guilty as charged.
1207
01:34:42,030 --> 01:34:43,130
Do I have to focus or anything?
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