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Where my dad's cabin was, there are not 2 00:00:09,820 --> 00:00:10,420 a lot of people. 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:12,260 You can't just call for help. 4 00:00:13,300 --> 00:00:15,500 The area is very isolated. 5 00:00:15,900 --> 00:00:17,100 It can be very dangerous. 6 00:00:18,780 --> 00:00:25,320 Everything was completely dark and immediately I knew 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,660 it was bad. 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:30,560 He came out with a gun. 9 00:00:31,439 --> 00:00:33,280 They didn't know, should I run, should I 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:33,540 not? 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:35,760 Is he going to shoot me? 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,280 I even remember thinking I didn't even tell 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:39,720 my parents where I was going today. 14 00:00:44,870 --> 00:00:50,190 My biggest horror was like, who's going to 15 00:00:50,190 --> 00:00:50,650 be next? 16 00:01:05,820 --> 00:01:07,460 July 28th, 2015. 17 00:01:08,500 --> 00:01:10,180 I was 19 years old. 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:11,900 I was just hanging out with some buddies, 19 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:13,560 Will and King. 20 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,500 Will was like, hey, let's go shoot. 21 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,400 He just got a new .22. We pack 22 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,300 up, get some rounds, get some guns, headed 23 00:01:22,300 --> 00:01:24,740 towards Caliente to Will's dad's cabin. 24 00:01:25,820 --> 00:01:27,120 Caliente, California. 25 00:01:27,700 --> 00:01:28,800 It's a beautiful place, really. 26 00:01:29,100 --> 00:01:32,300 It's about 25 minutes away from Bakersfield. 27 00:01:34,260 --> 00:01:37,600 And it's about 15 miles of rugged terrain 28 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,640 going up to the cabin. 29 00:01:41,140 --> 00:01:44,340 That desert area butts up against mountains where 30 00:01:44,340 --> 00:01:46,300 the trees start, so you have thick forest. 31 00:01:46,540 --> 00:01:49,300 And then it gets into very steep cliffs 32 00:01:49,300 --> 00:01:51,740 and very hazardous terrain. 33 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,720 I'm talking about rocks. 34 00:01:56,140 --> 00:01:59,620 I'm talking about going vertical on rocks. 35 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,280 You need a four-wheel drive. 36 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:03,880 A normal SUV won't get you up there. 37 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,740 It has to be some type of off 38 00:02:05,740 --> 00:02:06,400 -road vehicle. 39 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,200 They drove to a point where they park 40 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,800 and then they take a quad and they 41 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,000 drive up the rest of the way on 42 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,400 a dirt road to the cabin. 43 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,740 We're just listening to rock music, talking mess. 44 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,960 You know, we get to the cabin. 45 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,100 It's very isolated. 46 00:02:27,820 --> 00:02:30,980 There's trailers, RVs, a full-out shooting range. 47 00:02:33,270 --> 00:02:35,230 Just a full-on man cave, basically. 48 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,420 As they park and they're getting their gear 49 00:02:43,420 --> 00:02:51,940 and everything, they are confronted by a gentleman. 50 00:02:58,020 --> 00:03:00,000 My first thought was like, oh, that has 51 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,760 to be Will's family. 52 00:03:02,460 --> 00:03:04,120 So I was pretty cool at first. 53 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:05,100 I was like, hey, what's up, dude? 54 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,900 I noticed he didn't say anything. 55 00:03:08,980 --> 00:03:10,260 He was wearing all green. 56 00:03:11,300 --> 00:03:12,780 He had a sawed-off 12-gauge. 57 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,340 He had a bag that sounded like a 58 00:03:15,340 --> 00:03:16,280 bunch of rounds in it. 59 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,360 He also had a pretty long knife sticking 60 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,560 out of his sleeve, like he was ready 61 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,040 to hunt or kill. 62 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,100 He was out in the wild and he 63 00:03:28,100 --> 00:03:28,900 was prepared for it. 64 00:03:33,100 --> 00:03:37,400 He approached us and my buddy Will was 65 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,380 like, what the hell? 66 00:03:38,740 --> 00:03:39,400 What are you doing here? 67 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:40,180 You're trespassing. 68 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,160 And he's like, there's no one that lives 69 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:42,320 here. 70 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:42,940 It's just me. 71 00:03:45,580 --> 00:03:47,540 That's when I knew this is bad. 72 00:03:50,740 --> 00:03:53,340 And from there on, that's when everything went 73 00:03:53,340 --> 00:03:53,680 downhill. 74 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,720 He was definitely saying crazy things. 75 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,360 He told us about the government dropping him 76 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,120 from space in a body bag. 77 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,820 Made him seem unhinged, made him just crazy. 78 00:04:08,260 --> 00:04:09,840 And I kind of started freaking out. 79 00:04:10,780 --> 00:04:12,680 I even remember thinking like, man, I didn't 80 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:13,960 even tell my parents where I was going 81 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:14,400 today. 82 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:15,480 I just took off. 83 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,060 Then he directed them into the cabin with 84 00:04:19,060 --> 00:04:19,980 him at gunpoint. 85 00:04:23,020 --> 00:04:24,520 They didn't know, should I run? 86 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:25,040 Should I not? 87 00:04:25,100 --> 00:04:25,860 Is he going to shoot me? 88 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,520 Outside the cabin, he specifically told us, you 89 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:40,680 sit in one corner, you sit in one 90 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:41,700 corner and you sit in the middle. 91 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:45,040 We were all scared. 92 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,120 Your body goes into a certain state. 93 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:49,980 You don't feel nothing. 94 00:04:51,300 --> 00:04:54,000 It's almost like you got to think of 95 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:54,800 your next move. 96 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,240 I definitely was thinking of my mom, my 97 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,480 dad, my sisters, you know. 98 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,700 Like, damn, like, this is it. 99 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,120 Didn't even say I love you. 100 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,720 That was the rough part. 101 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,680 At that time, I wasn't too religious, but 102 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:13,620 I saved a prayer. 103 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,340 He had the shotgun in my face. 104 00:05:18,020 --> 00:05:18,800 Finger on the trigger. 105 00:05:19,540 --> 00:05:23,100 And he said, bang, bang, bang. 106 00:05:24,860 --> 00:05:26,640 He's like, I can kill all you guys 107 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,120 right now and get away with it. 108 00:05:29,020 --> 00:05:29,880 Nobody will know. 109 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,080 Which he was completely right. 110 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,620 You know, middle of nowhere, no service. 111 00:05:38,220 --> 00:05:39,800 Yeah, you can definitely get away with it. 112 00:05:46,100 --> 00:05:49,620 It's not uncommon in the rural areas for 113 00:05:49,620 --> 00:05:51,860 people to go out target shooting or hunting. 114 00:05:53,020 --> 00:05:54,760 And people are not going to hear the 115 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:55,260 gunshots. 116 00:05:55,260 --> 00:05:57,500 And if they do, they may think it's 117 00:05:57,500 --> 00:05:58,980 just completely normal. 118 00:05:59,540 --> 00:06:01,460 He wouldn't even have to bury them because 119 00:06:01,460 --> 00:06:02,980 he could have left them in the elements 120 00:06:02,980 --> 00:06:05,120 and they would have been taken care of 121 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:05,640 by the wild. 122 00:06:06,980 --> 00:06:08,260 And no trace of them. 123 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,220 Three young men have just disappeared off the 124 00:06:11,220 --> 00:06:11,800 face of the earth. 125 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,400 And no one knows why. 126 00:06:18,990 --> 00:06:21,010 During that time, he was back and forth. 127 00:06:21,250 --> 00:06:24,270 He's going outside, he's grabbing cans of food, 128 00:06:24,770 --> 00:06:27,590 grabbing ammo, grabbing whatever he thinks he needs. 129 00:06:28,970 --> 00:06:30,530 And he would leave us in the room 130 00:06:30,530 --> 00:06:31,950 and we'd kind of just be talking between 131 00:06:31,950 --> 00:06:32,350 each other. 132 00:06:32,610 --> 00:06:33,290 What are we going to do? 133 00:06:33,870 --> 00:06:36,330 My buddy Will was, we're going to try 134 00:06:36,330 --> 00:06:37,210 and take him down. 135 00:06:37,450 --> 00:06:38,470 And I told him, I was like, stop, 136 00:06:38,590 --> 00:06:38,690 dude. 137 00:06:39,030 --> 00:06:39,750 You're going to get us killed. 138 00:06:40,190 --> 00:06:41,450 Do you really want to see one of 139 00:06:41,450 --> 00:06:43,350 our friends get shot or do you really 140 00:06:43,350 --> 00:06:44,010 want to die here? 141 00:06:48,580 --> 00:06:50,900 He even actually has a bag of butane 142 00:06:50,900 --> 00:06:51,340 tanks. 143 00:06:56,460 --> 00:06:57,800 I thought for sure we were going to 144 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:58,060 die. 145 00:07:03,820 --> 00:07:05,300 I couldn't find my way out. 146 00:07:06,460 --> 00:07:07,780 I couldn't shoot my way out. 147 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,020 I couldn't run my way out. 148 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:12,540 I was stuck. 149 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,280 There was nothing I could do to get 150 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,400 out of this situation besides talk. 151 00:07:19,660 --> 00:07:20,820 He asked me, can we smoke a cigarette, 152 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:21,080 you know? 153 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,140 I said, at least you can do for 154 00:07:23,140 --> 00:07:23,260 us. 155 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:26,400 Hands a cigarette. 156 00:07:31,460 --> 00:07:32,320 We're just talking. 157 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,540 He's telling us crazy things. 158 00:07:34,540 --> 00:07:37,880 He talked about him knowing the devil, that, 159 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,480 you know, the devil brought him back to 160 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:39,760 life. 161 00:07:40,260 --> 00:07:42,460 His last marriage, how it wasn't good. 162 00:07:43,300 --> 00:07:45,300 Talking about how he respects us. 163 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,180 He even told us one time, he was 164 00:07:47,180 --> 00:07:48,180 like, you guys are my friends. 165 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:48,960 I love you guys. 166 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,940 It was a roller coaster of emotion. 167 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:55,340 I'm going to kill you guys no matter 168 00:07:55,340 --> 00:07:55,620 what. 169 00:07:57,060 --> 00:07:59,060 But we were talking, talking, trying to get 170 00:07:59,060 --> 00:07:59,500 out of it. 171 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:01,460 It felt like torture. 172 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,040 But in those few hours, we kind of 173 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,140 started to figure him out. 174 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,460 He was just on foot, breaking into those 175 00:08:11,460 --> 00:08:13,660 cabins out there, taking whatever he could. 176 00:08:14,180 --> 00:08:16,020 He was kind of just living freely out 177 00:08:16,020 --> 00:08:16,200 there. 178 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,420 I mean, there's nobody around. 179 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:19,420 There's nothing out there. 180 00:08:19,740 --> 00:08:21,020 I think he was more mad that he 181 00:08:21,020 --> 00:08:22,500 ran into us, if anything, you know? 182 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,160 We kind of calmed him down to a 183 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,720 point where we came up with a deal. 184 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,679 Like, hey, you take all of our stuff. 185 00:08:32,740 --> 00:08:33,480 You take our guns. 186 00:08:33,539 --> 00:08:34,799 You take our side by side. 187 00:08:35,580 --> 00:08:37,400 You know, we'll just walk back and you'll 188 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:37,820 be free. 189 00:08:38,340 --> 00:08:40,100 They told him, please just go. 190 00:08:40,700 --> 00:08:41,919 And we won't say anything. 191 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:44,800 He's like, you're just messing with me. 192 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:45,360 You're just lying. 193 00:08:45,460 --> 00:08:46,920 You're just doing this to survive. 194 00:08:49,700 --> 00:08:50,420 Which we were. 195 00:08:51,180 --> 00:08:53,500 We all stuck to, like, a certain game 196 00:08:53,500 --> 00:08:53,780 plan. 197 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,020 Like, we're all on the same page on 198 00:08:56,020 --> 00:08:57,360 manipulating, on making this deal. 199 00:09:04,050 --> 00:09:05,070 He's like, I respect you guys. 200 00:09:05,610 --> 00:09:06,510 That's why I'm going to let you guys 201 00:09:06,510 --> 00:09:06,730 live. 202 00:09:08,090 --> 00:09:10,030 As crazy as it sounds, I shook his 203 00:09:10,030 --> 00:09:10,350 hand. 204 00:09:25,900 --> 00:09:29,460 The suspect took the all-terrain vehicle and 205 00:09:29,460 --> 00:09:30,700 drove away in it. 206 00:09:36,020 --> 00:09:37,540 That's when we ran out that cabin. 207 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,640 It was just like a rush of getting 208 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:42,320 the hell out of here. 209 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:43,320 Didn't even look back. 210 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:44,020 Just ran. 211 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,600 Ran straight to the riverbed. 212 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:49,680 In that riverbed, there's a bunch of shrubs. 213 00:09:49,900 --> 00:09:51,300 There's a bunch of things that can hide 214 00:09:51,300 --> 00:09:51,540 us. 215 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,300 And it would take us back to where 216 00:09:54,300 --> 00:09:54,860 we needed to be. 217 00:09:55,940 --> 00:09:59,560 There's no cellular service in those areas, so 218 00:09:59,560 --> 00:10:01,020 they had to make their way to safety 219 00:10:01,020 --> 00:10:03,320 before they could even make contact with law 220 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:03,680 enforcement. 221 00:10:04,500 --> 00:10:05,400 We're traumatized. 222 00:10:05,680 --> 00:10:08,980 Any little thing, any wind, we're looking behind 223 00:10:08,980 --> 00:10:09,280 us. 224 00:10:09,700 --> 00:10:12,840 We started to realize, like, we're not making 225 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,040 any way. 226 00:10:14,980 --> 00:10:16,580 The sun's already dropping. 227 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,740 That riverbed is taking too long. 228 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,100 So we got back onto the main road. 229 00:10:22,580 --> 00:10:24,060 And as we were walking down the main 230 00:10:24,060 --> 00:10:32,860 road, that's when we heard him coming back 231 00:10:32,860 --> 00:10:33,520 towards us. 232 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:35,760 He changed his mind. 233 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:39,760 He was going to come kill us. 234 00:10:51,820 --> 00:10:56,800 We're walking down the dirt road, and we 235 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:57,600 hear the side-by-side. 236 00:11:00,740 --> 00:11:02,140 He was coming back to kill us. 237 00:11:03,180 --> 00:11:04,760 He did not want them going and reporting 238 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,800 this particular incident. 239 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,580 They were actively being hunted down by him. 240 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:12,500 He was mobile. 241 00:11:12,740 --> 00:11:13,360 They're on foot. 242 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,500 We all dove face first, and as we 243 00:11:19,500 --> 00:11:21,560 dove, we were capable of just rolling over 244 00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:23,780 and kind of hiding ourselves from the main 245 00:11:23,780 --> 00:11:24,040 road. 246 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,760 We laid there for a good five minutes 247 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,260 until we didn't hear that engine no more. 248 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:03,960 And that's when we got back up and 249 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,420 started hiking that trail again. 250 00:12:07,940 --> 00:12:10,260 There's no doubt in my mind that he 251 00:12:10,260 --> 00:12:11,600 would have eliminated those young men. 252 00:12:14,660 --> 00:12:15,580 Keaton was sick. 253 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:17,640 I'm pretty sure he was dehydrated. 254 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,600 Dehydrated, scared, not a good mixture. 255 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,500 And we had to walk miles. 256 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,600 If you're not equipped in the mountains, it 257 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:29,540 can not only be scary, it can be 258 00:12:29,540 --> 00:12:29,800 deadly. 259 00:12:33,110 --> 00:12:34,230 There is coyotes. 260 00:12:35,950 --> 00:12:37,070 There's mountain lions. 261 00:12:38,070 --> 00:12:42,370 There's a very high population of poisonous rattlesnakes. 262 00:12:43,030 --> 00:12:44,230 It can be very dangerous. 263 00:12:57,560 --> 00:12:58,740 We're seeing some headlights. 264 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,440 I thought that he was coming back to 265 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:03,740 kill us. 266 00:13:08,180 --> 00:13:10,440 Our first reaction was to hide again. 267 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,400 But as we got closer, we heard a 268 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:13,620 voice. 269 00:13:14,340 --> 00:13:15,020 What are you guys doing? 270 00:13:15,380 --> 00:13:16,340 Where's the cyber side? 271 00:13:16,940 --> 00:13:18,800 And that's when we knew it was Will's 272 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:19,040 dad. 273 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,820 That's when I kind of felt like a 274 00:13:23,820 --> 00:13:24,500 breath of fresh air. 275 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:27,580 I'm gonna make it home. 276 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,380 You could tell by our faces, something happened. 277 00:13:31,180 --> 00:13:33,000 And that's when my buddy Will hysterically started 278 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,640 saying, we got held hostage, shotgun to our 279 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,700 head by a crazy man. 280 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:38,960 And he took everything. 281 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:40,220 That was the only way we were gonna 282 00:13:40,220 --> 00:13:40,660 survive. 283 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:43,320 Will's dad takes a deep breath and is 284 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:44,640 just like, what? 285 00:13:44,940 --> 00:13:47,180 And he's like, yeah, we got stuck up. 286 00:13:49,900 --> 00:13:50,980 It was a quiet ride. 287 00:13:51,020 --> 00:13:51,660 I didn't speak. 288 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,180 I was just thinking of, what just happened? 289 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,500 I should be dead. 290 00:13:59,260 --> 00:14:02,540 Thank God they escaped and reported to law 291 00:14:02,540 --> 00:14:02,900 enforcement. 292 00:14:08,260 --> 00:14:10,160 In 2015, I was a senior deputy. 293 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,820 For the Kern County Sheriff's Department. 294 00:14:12,340 --> 00:14:14,860 I had a dual role as a detective 295 00:14:14,860 --> 00:14:18,300 and also as a SWAT team sniper. 296 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,360 We have a special operations group team that 297 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,680 is primarily SWAT team members that do special 298 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:26,760 missions. 299 00:14:28,140 --> 00:14:30,140 We realized how lucky these three young men 300 00:14:30,140 --> 00:14:34,180 were and the manhunt really started. 301 00:14:35,140 --> 00:14:37,900 At some point, the kidnapper tried to get 302 00:14:37,900 --> 00:14:40,540 out of the area with that vehicle and 303 00:14:40,540 --> 00:14:41,560 managed to get it stuck. 304 00:14:42,300 --> 00:14:44,560 He got it stuck in a very, very 305 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,440 remote area to where it was completely inoperable 306 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,440 and he fled on foot from that vehicle. 307 00:14:51,500 --> 00:14:53,260 The SWAT team tried to follow the tracks 308 00:14:53,260 --> 00:14:55,320 as far as they could and based on 309 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,940 the terrain and everything, they lost the tracks. 310 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,640 The three young men did a drawing to 311 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,360 give us a general idea of what the 312 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:05,380 guy might look like. 313 00:15:06,300 --> 00:15:09,700 We knew he had darker skin, black hair, 314 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,180 he wore glasses and kind of wore clothing 315 00:15:14,180 --> 00:15:15,420 that looked like he might have been a 316 00:15:15,420 --> 00:15:17,060 hiker, but that's about it. 317 00:15:17,300 --> 00:15:19,200 We had nothing on this guy. 318 00:15:19,380 --> 00:15:20,460 We didn't know who he was. 319 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,540 We didn't know where he was and we 320 00:15:23,540 --> 00:15:25,220 didn't know what his capability was. 321 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,060 We were worried he was going to hurt 322 00:15:28,060 --> 00:15:29,960 somebody eventually if we didn't find him. 323 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,120 July 30th was a Thursday. 324 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,480 Thursday nights are an easy-going, relaxing night. 325 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,400 We play video games with the kids. 326 00:15:46,220 --> 00:15:49,140 That night, I saw my mother-in-law 327 00:15:49,140 --> 00:15:52,260 calling me and so I answered and she 328 00:15:52,260 --> 00:15:57,640 was kind of hysterical saying that Dave hadn't 329 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,080 checked in that night. 330 00:16:00,340 --> 00:16:02,400 Dave is my father-in-law and he 331 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,860 normally checks in before dark. 332 00:16:04,340 --> 00:16:06,840 My dad's cabin was out in Jawbone Canyon. 333 00:16:07,420 --> 00:16:07,900 He loved it. 334 00:16:07,900 --> 00:16:10,040 He would wake up at 5 o'clock 335 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:11,420 and hop in his truck and go out 336 00:16:11,420 --> 00:16:11,560 there. 337 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,520 The only reason my mom was not with 338 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,220 him was she was recovering from a surgery, 339 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,580 but he always checked in probably around 6 340 00:16:18,580 --> 00:16:19,880 p.m. Sun would still be up. 341 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:21,480 He just wanted to let you know that 342 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,260 I'm in for the night and you know, 343 00:16:23,300 --> 00:16:24,080 everything was great. 344 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,940 Cheryl was a bit distraught and wanted to 345 00:16:26,940 --> 00:16:28,980 go out and check to see if he 346 00:16:28,980 --> 00:16:29,460 was okay. 347 00:16:31,220 --> 00:16:33,860 Early 2000s is when he actually purchased the 348 00:16:33,860 --> 00:16:34,180 cabin. 349 00:16:34,500 --> 00:16:35,460 It was absolutely beautiful. 350 00:16:35,460 --> 00:16:37,320 It was a wood, kind of like looking 351 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,080 like a log cabin, you know, and windows 352 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:40,480 everywhere. 353 00:16:40,860 --> 00:16:42,760 It faced where they had fields. 354 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:43,760 It faced the pond. 355 00:16:44,460 --> 00:16:45,360 Very isolated. 356 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,520 And of course, that was part of the 357 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:48,840 charm. 358 00:16:49,860 --> 00:16:53,040 It was very relaxing because we don't have 359 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:53,760 cell reception. 360 00:16:54,220 --> 00:16:56,580 It let us unplug just from life. 361 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,240 It just gave us a couple days where 362 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,200 really all you did was just enjoy where 363 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,260 you were, like in the moment, like you're 364 00:17:02,260 --> 00:17:07,220 just on vacation when he bought that. 365 00:17:07,339 --> 00:17:09,240 He was looking for a place to just 366 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:10,980 have his own kind of refuge. 367 00:17:11,300 --> 00:17:12,800 He wanted his own spot where he could 368 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,500 do just what he wanted to do. 369 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:15,800 Make it his own. 370 00:17:18,020 --> 00:17:19,680 My grandpa grew up gold mining and so 371 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,200 he taught my dad and my dad just 372 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,119 loved it. 373 00:17:23,980 --> 00:17:24,579 We used to joke. 374 00:17:24,700 --> 00:17:25,940 I said, you're the only dentist that has 375 00:17:25,940 --> 00:17:27,119 a dump truck and a dynamite permit. 376 00:17:28,060 --> 00:17:29,540 I just think to myself and laugh like, 377 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:30,860 my dad is so cool. 378 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:37,120 Where my dad's cabin was, when you're the 379 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:39,000 nearest neighbor, you can't just call for help. 380 00:17:40,540 --> 00:17:42,380 I mean, that's really scary. 381 00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:45,340 And here's my dad who's just out there 382 00:17:45,340 --> 00:17:46,720 because that's his retirement. 383 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:47,360 He loves it. 384 00:17:52,830 --> 00:17:56,090 Cheryl comes over to the house and she's 385 00:17:56,090 --> 00:17:57,610 very upset at this point and wants me 386 00:17:57,610 --> 00:17:58,030 to drive. 387 00:17:58,170 --> 00:18:00,350 So she says, you know the road better. 388 00:18:00,410 --> 00:18:01,250 You know the place better. 389 00:18:01,570 --> 00:18:02,530 Can you drive? 390 00:18:02,670 --> 00:18:03,570 And we'll go from there. 391 00:18:05,090 --> 00:18:06,670 From our house to get to the cabin, 392 00:18:10,450 --> 00:18:11,430 depending on road conditions. 393 00:18:11,690 --> 00:18:13,670 But I have to stay home because I've 394 00:18:13,670 --> 00:18:15,110 got two little kids that are now in 395 00:18:15,110 --> 00:18:15,350 bed. 396 00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:18,510 My mom and Ryan leave about 9.30 397 00:18:19,410 --> 00:18:21,330 and now the time is ticking and I'm 398 00:18:21,330 --> 00:18:21,590 waiting. 399 00:18:22,810 --> 00:18:24,850 I'm kind of doing this vicious cycle of 400 00:18:24,850 --> 00:18:25,430 cell phone calls. 401 00:18:25,670 --> 00:18:27,630 I'm calling my dad's satellite phone, his cell 402 00:18:27,630 --> 00:18:28,550 phone, the house phone. 403 00:18:29,210 --> 00:18:30,850 I'm starting to now get a little panicked 404 00:18:30,850 --> 00:18:32,190 and I'm starting to yell a little louder, 405 00:18:32,330 --> 00:18:33,370 Dad, it's Christy. 406 00:18:33,570 --> 00:18:35,590 Dad, you need to pick up this phone. 407 00:18:51,300 --> 00:18:55,060 On social media, somebody had mentioned something about 408 00:18:55,060 --> 00:18:59,280 some boys getting kidnapped and not a lot 409 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:00,460 of information about it. 410 00:19:00,780 --> 00:19:03,500 I thought that's somewhat close because the crow 411 00:19:03,500 --> 00:19:03,960 flies. 412 00:19:04,580 --> 00:19:07,320 But crossing that distance would take, especially on 413 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:08,260 foot, quite a while. 414 00:19:08,620 --> 00:19:10,520 So I didn't think too much of it. 415 00:19:12,020 --> 00:19:14,660 As we pulled up in the headlights, I 416 00:19:14,660 --> 00:19:18,260 could see on the ranch road where it 417 00:19:18,260 --> 00:19:20,860 looked like a car had skidded to a 418 00:19:20,860 --> 00:19:23,960 stop and pushed up dirt in front of 419 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:24,400 the tires. 420 00:19:25,660 --> 00:19:27,720 My dad was very meticulous about keeping the 421 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:28,400 roads really nice. 422 00:19:28,860 --> 00:19:30,820 That's not something my dad would ever leave. 423 00:19:32,020 --> 00:19:33,920 If he had done something like that, he 424 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,860 would have got out, raked it flat, and 425 00:19:35,860 --> 00:19:36,760 made it look pretty again. 426 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,660 Immediately I thought that that was odd. 427 00:19:42,100 --> 00:19:45,060 When we approached the cabin, everything was completely 428 00:19:45,060 --> 00:19:48,400 dark and his truck isn't there. 429 00:19:48,580 --> 00:19:51,260 So we think he's not here, and I 430 00:19:51,260 --> 00:19:52,920 asked Cheryl, do you think we should check 431 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,040 the cabin just in case? 432 00:19:54,500 --> 00:19:55,620 And she said yes. 433 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:05,060 Cheryl was still very frantic, as was I. 434 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:10,340 I was worried just because everything seemingly looked 435 00:20:10,340 --> 00:20:11,720 fairly normal. 436 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,640 I had packed up my rifle just in 437 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:14,960 case. 438 00:20:15,300 --> 00:20:17,940 You never know if an animal is an 439 00:20:17,940 --> 00:20:20,780 issue, and on the rare case, there could 440 00:20:20,780 --> 00:20:21,280 be a person. 441 00:20:22,700 --> 00:20:25,620 I grabbed my rifle, had my flashlight. 442 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,080 Cheryl was up on the steps going into 443 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,820 the cabin, and I was hanging back just 444 00:20:33,820 --> 00:20:36,160 a little bit, shining my flashlight, just making 445 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,380 sure there was nothing out of the ordinary. 446 00:20:44,990 --> 00:20:47,830 I noticed that that back window was open, 447 00:20:48,010 --> 00:20:49,430 and it seemed off. 448 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,360 I followed Cheryl in, and it was dark 449 00:20:59,360 --> 00:20:59,720 inside. 450 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,540 I still had my flashlight on, so I 451 00:21:05,540 --> 00:21:06,300 could see a little bit. 452 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:13,440 And I walked around the corner, and immediately 453 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,780 she screamed, oh no. 454 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:21,540 And I knew at that moment it was 455 00:21:21,540 --> 00:21:21,860 bad. 456 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:45,400 Ryan runs into the kitchen, and there was 457 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:45,820 my dad. 458 00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:51,360 He'd been shot, and I immediately knew he 459 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:51,840 was dead. 460 00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:55,380 I knew what I was seeing. 461 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:56,980 I knew what was happening, but I couldn't 462 00:21:56,980 --> 00:21:57,880 quite comprehend it. 463 00:21:59,940 --> 00:22:02,300 Ryan immediately runs to my mom, and he's 464 00:22:02,300 --> 00:22:03,560 like, we have to get out of here. 465 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,840 We were in grave potential danger. 466 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,420 Somebody could be out here right now. 467 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:27,310 We jumped into the vehicle, and I thought, 468 00:22:27,650 --> 00:22:30,090 what if somebody climbed in here while we 469 00:22:30,090 --> 00:22:30,550 were inside? 470 00:22:32,910 --> 00:22:35,510 I said, Cheryl, make sure there's nobody hiding 471 00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:36,310 in the back right now. 472 00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:44,780 Everything's good. 473 00:22:46,020 --> 00:22:48,360 We start going down the county road, and 474 00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:49,820 a lot of that's a blur. 475 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,820 We were both hysterical. 476 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,640 It took us about a half hour to 477 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,260 get back to a cell signal, and we 478 00:22:59,260 --> 00:23:04,080 stop, and Cheryl calls 911, and from their 479 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,940 dispatch does their thing. 480 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,660 At this point in time, our homicide detectives 481 00:23:08,660 --> 00:23:10,940 were working the scene, collecting evidence. 482 00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:13,800 What we did learn early on is that 483 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,220 his vehicle was missing from the residence. 484 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,040 Daybreak the next day, we did locate his 485 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,800 vehicle run off of a remote road, stuck 486 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,740 in very similar fashion to the ATV, and 487 00:23:28,740 --> 00:23:31,580 outside of Mr. Markowitz's vehicle, we were able 488 00:23:31,580 --> 00:23:33,600 to locate a shoe track on the ground 489 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,060 outside of the driver's side door. 490 00:23:36,580 --> 00:23:39,820 Those boot marks were very, very similar in 491 00:23:39,820 --> 00:23:42,920 pattern and size to the boot marks that 492 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,020 we located and were initially tracking at the 493 00:23:46,020 --> 00:23:47,600 cabin where the three young adults were held 494 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:48,220 against their will. 495 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,100 That was a very significant escalation in the 496 00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:53,440 case. 497 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,080 We suspected this was the same person that 498 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,640 had eluded us the first time. 499 00:23:59,740 --> 00:24:02,680 I was really concerned that he's out there 500 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,880 free, running around. 501 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,800 We're in the span of two days, and 502 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,880 we know this person has not only kidnapped 503 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,520 and held people against their will and threatened 504 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,140 them at gunpoint, he's now murdered an innocent 505 00:24:15,140 --> 00:24:15,640 person. 506 00:24:17,780 --> 00:24:21,680 When you have someone who has no qualms 507 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,040 about taking a life from a complete stranger, 508 00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:26,140 that means he has no problems taking another 509 00:24:26,140 --> 00:24:28,180 life if they happen to cross him, so 510 00:24:28,180 --> 00:24:30,040 this is a person who needs to be 511 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:30,420 stopped. 512 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,840 That makes this an all-hands-on-deck 513 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:34,520 investigation. 514 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,100 We dispatched special weapons and tactics team members 515 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,480 to Mr. Markowitz's cabin, and we began tactical 516 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:44,860 operations in that area. 517 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,480 For man tracking, it's not the same as 518 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:49,400 search and rescue. 519 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,720 Search and rescue, you're looking for someone who 520 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:52,460 wants to be found. 521 00:24:53,260 --> 00:24:57,840 When you're man tracking, they already got eyes 522 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,260 on you, they already got distance on you. 523 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,840 Our whole SWAT team was split up into 524 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:02,840 two 10-man groups. 525 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,300 Each team had a couple snipers. 526 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,020 We had off-road vehicles. 527 00:25:08,020 --> 00:25:10,180 We had the helicopter flying. 528 00:25:11,220 --> 00:25:13,120 The plan was is hopefully find the tracks 529 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:15,420 up ahead further so that then we could 530 00:25:15,420 --> 00:25:16,400 gain ground on the person. 531 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,280 Find this person as fast as possible. 532 00:25:21,460 --> 00:25:24,040 We realized that he probably knew what we 533 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:29,000 were doing because he was circling around. 534 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,020 He knows we know what he did, so 535 00:25:32,020 --> 00:25:33,800 he used every trick that he knew to 536 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:34,340 evade us. 537 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,900 It appeared that this person not only knew 538 00:25:37,900 --> 00:25:40,900 the area, but he was leading caches around 539 00:25:40,900 --> 00:25:42,940 for him to come back to so he 540 00:25:42,940 --> 00:25:45,500 could move back and forth and resupply, which 541 00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:46,880 tells us that he's thinking ahead. 542 00:25:48,020 --> 00:25:49,800 Every little thing can be a clue. 543 00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:53,300 It's not just footprints, candy wrapper, cigarette butt, 544 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:55,480 broken branches. 545 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:57,960 It can be clues. 546 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,740 We found a water bottle and some supplies 547 00:26:09,740 --> 00:26:10,400 that were abandoned. 548 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,140 The bottle had been used. 549 00:26:12,180 --> 00:26:12,820 It wasn't fresh. 550 00:26:12,900 --> 00:26:15,780 It wasn't sealed, so we thought maybe we 551 00:26:15,780 --> 00:26:17,000 could get a DNA hit on it. 552 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,900 It was delivered to the labs. 553 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,940 They did get a positive hit, and that's 554 00:26:24,940 --> 00:26:27,880 where we first identify the stranger that we've 555 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,100 been tracking this whole time. 556 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,500 The suspect was Benjamin Peter Ashley. 557 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,040 Several years back, he was arrested for breaking 558 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,240 into houses and burglarizing the house, and so 559 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:41,940 he was in our system. 560 00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:42,880 So we had a picture. 561 00:26:43,220 --> 00:26:46,080 We had a name, age, all of that. 562 00:26:46,620 --> 00:26:49,700 He was from the L.A. area, and 563 00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:50,480 he was a drifter. 564 00:26:50,780 --> 00:26:52,460 He just kind of did his own thing, 565 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,500 and he was very familiar with the area 566 00:26:54,500 --> 00:26:55,480 and was an avid hiker. 567 00:26:56,980 --> 00:26:58,860 Dealing with somebody that we think may know 568 00:26:58,860 --> 00:27:01,800 this terrain puts us even on more high 569 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:02,120 alert. 570 00:27:02,460 --> 00:27:04,400 This was a mountain man, very capable of 571 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:04,860 eluding us. 572 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,880 He was very, he was acclimated to that 573 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:09,580 type of terrain. 574 00:27:09,940 --> 00:27:11,700 He was acclimated to that type of weather. 575 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,040 We were in his element, not ours. 576 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,080 And when you're in the other person's element, 577 00:27:17,220 --> 00:27:17,940 they have an advantage. 578 00:27:25,690 --> 00:27:28,230 On the morning of August 1, 2015, we 579 00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:28,870 continued tracking. 580 00:27:29,610 --> 00:27:34,070 As we came across structures and trailers and 581 00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:38,150 residences that appeared maybe unsecured, and there was 582 00:27:38,150 --> 00:27:41,130 nobody obviously there, we would search those to 583 00:27:41,130 --> 00:27:42,870 ensure that this person wasn't there. 584 00:27:43,650 --> 00:27:45,850 Now, this is a small team, because we 585 00:27:45,850 --> 00:27:46,710 were a tracking team. 586 00:27:46,910 --> 00:27:49,030 This was not the typical SWAT call-out. 587 00:27:49,770 --> 00:27:51,550 We find the track again on a dirt 588 00:27:51,550 --> 00:27:52,930 road, and we start following it. 589 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,600 And the tracks go into a field and 590 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,000 towards a house. 591 00:28:12,970 --> 00:28:14,930 I tried the door, and it's unlocked. 592 00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:17,270 I let my team leader know, hey, we 593 00:28:17,270 --> 00:28:20,190 got an unlocked door, and we make a 594 00:28:20,190 --> 00:28:20,790 game plan. 595 00:28:21,310 --> 00:28:22,510 I will go first. 596 00:28:31,660 --> 00:28:33,440 And I didn't see anything out of place 597 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,100 that just didn't feel right. 598 00:28:47,850 --> 00:28:49,630 I take two more steps, and... 599 00:28:56,060 --> 00:29:01,480 And then I feel the bones in both 600 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,780 my arms break at the same time. 601 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,620 And next thing I know, I'm looking at 602 00:29:09,620 --> 00:29:10,060 the ceiling. 603 00:29:23,780 --> 00:29:26,960 I'm laying on my back, and I see 604 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,160 that there's blood on both my arms. 605 00:29:29,340 --> 00:29:31,340 And I call out that I'm hit. 606 00:29:34,620 --> 00:29:36,260 And all hell breaks loose. 607 00:29:43,030 --> 00:29:45,890 Benjamin Ashley was shooting at my team, and 608 00:29:45,890 --> 00:29:47,690 my team was backing out of the house 609 00:29:47,690 --> 00:29:49,590 to get away from the gunfire. 610 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,640 I can't fight back. 611 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:55,700 Both my arms are down. 612 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,220 I can't get up. 613 00:29:57,700 --> 00:29:58,960 And so I was kind of like, 40681

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