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As the new millennium dawned, the once
industry -dominating world championship
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wrestling was struggling to keep pace
with their rival, the World Wrestling
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Federation.
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In many ways, WCW's fortunes and future
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hinged on one key event.
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Bash at the Beach 2000.
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Candidly, one of the biggest disasters
of my entire career.
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Bash at the Beach was one of WCW's
biggest annual pay -per -view events.
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And in the year 2000, it was the stage
for an epic clash between two of
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wrestling's most controversial creative
talents.
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And I promise you will never see that
piece of shit again!
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I think Vince Russo is motivated by
attention.
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I don't know why.
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I didn't know if he didn't get enough
when he was a little kid.
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Eric represented everything I despise in
the wrestling business.
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And, bro, I'll tell you, you're never
going to outwork me because I'm better
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than you.
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If he believes that, he's got a problem
with reality.
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The incident at Bash at the Beach 2000
is one in which every participant has
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their own version of what actually took
place that night.
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And I said, Hulk.
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You're not walking out of here the WCW
champion.
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That is not happening. What's Jeff
doing? Now the script's out the window.
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What's going to happen? And it's like,
nobody wants to watch wrestling and see
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that. It was one of the dumbest things I
ever saw. And Hogan, you big bald son
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of a bitch, kiss my ass!
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That was never my plan.
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Now I'm really pissed off. Hogan's
pretty sensitive about being called
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even though he doesn't have any hair.
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Did I know that Hulk Hogan was going to
take legal action? How could you not?
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There will come a time, there will come
a place when I will tell the entire
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story of what happened at Bash at the
Beach.
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The legacy of Bash at the Beach, the
single biggest black eye in WCW history.
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I despise the wrestling business, bro. I
despise the people in it. You cannot be
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a good person and exist in the wrestling
business. You can't, bro, because you
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enter a shark tank.
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And unless you become a shark, they will
eat you alive.
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My name is Vince Russo. I was in the
wrestling business since 1991, so I'm
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on 32 years now.
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You can boo all you want. That doesn't
change the fact that I'm better than
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What I'm looking for tonight is ratings.
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Big ratings.
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And we're going to deliver, you son of a
bitch.
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Vince, we've got to know, who is the WCW
World's Heavyweight Champion?
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Question?
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Question? There is no question, Mike.
There's no question. Who's here with the
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belt?
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Overall, do you think Vince Russo?
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then more harm or good for wrestling?
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Harm.
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Yeah, I would say long -term harm. Yeah,
yeah, yeah.
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In the 1990s, professional wrestling is
bigger and hotter than it has ever been
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before. As industry leader Vince
McMahon's World Wrestling Federation
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serious challenge to its popularity by
an aggressive challenger.
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Billionaire Ted Turner's World
Championship Wrestling.
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WWF would have been the dominant company
from 84 through, I would say, 96.
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And in 96 it flipped over and WCW was
dominant.
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My name is Dave Meltzer and I'm the
editor of the Wrestling Observer
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and I've been covering pro wrestling
since the early 1970s.
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The flaw of Vince McMahon is he only
thinks a certain thing works. That's it.
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And there's a million things in
wrestling that when done well can work.
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As both companies engage in a fierce
ratings war, pitting their Monday night
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shows against each other, the rise of
WCW is led by its ambitious young
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president, Eric Bischoff.
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I decided the only way I was going to be
successful was to be different.
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I listed all of the things that made WWE
successful, and I decided to do exactly
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the opposite of what they were doing.
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I'm Eric Bischoff, former president of
WCW.
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I'm the first one that created a weekly
live television format for professional
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wrestling. I looked at the WWE and they
were taped.
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And I thought, you know, wrestling needs
to be live. When it's live, the
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audience has to watch it.
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WCW before Nitro was just a really bad,
cheap imitation of WWE.
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It was just silly, silly, childish
stuff.
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They were ignoring
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men 18 to 39.
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So I thought, okay, there's my
opportunity.
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I began wondering, how can I transition
into more reality -based product?
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Eric produced a different kind of a
television show than had ever been done
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before. He was just ahead of the game,
and Vince was behind the times.
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Before launching Monday Nitro, Bischoff
aimed to legitimize WCW by headhunting
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major talent, poaching Vince McMahon's
biggest star to be the new face of his
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company. We're the number two wrestling
company in the world. We're a fraction
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of the WWE's ratings.
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And bringing in Hulk Hogan changed the
perception of WCW. It was a seismic
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shift. I mean, I remember Eric telling
me, where Hogan goes, goes the money.
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That was his thing.
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And all of a sudden, my phone rings one
day, and it's my buddy Diamond Dallas
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Page. And he said, Eric, you know, Scott
Hall wants to leave WWE.
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He was raising Ramon there. So I do the
deal with Scott Hall, and about a week
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after that, I get a call from Kevin
Nash.
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Same thing.
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Bam. The light bulb went off in my head.
There's my storyline.
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There's my reality.
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The NWO, the new world order.
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We left WWE in the dust, in
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the dust.
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We weren't just beating them. We were
beating them badly.
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But the WWF isn't down for the count as
fans eventually begin gravitating to a
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new generation of superstars.
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and a radical new approach to wrestling
storylines introduced by a brash young
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writer named Vince Russo.
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Writing a wrestling show is not rocket
science. And one of the things I said to
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Vince when I first sat down with him,
Vince, that wrestling handbook gets
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out the window. And I said, Vince, from
now on, they think we're going to go
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left. We're going to go right now. All
of a sudden, week to week to week, they
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don't know what's going to happen. The
idea of Crash TV is I am writing that TV
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like the viewer at home is sitting there
with the remote in his hand,
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begging me to give him the opportunity
to see what was going on on the other
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channel.
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So it would be short match.
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Backstage segment, vignette, short
match, fight in the locker room,
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boom, boom, boom, and you are not giving
that viewer the opportunity to, ah,
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let's see what's on Nitro. That's Crash
TV.
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Russo's concept of Crash TV plays a key
part in turning the tide, and soon the
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WWF is back on top, beating WCW every
Monday night.
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towards probably the middle of 98,
certainly in 99, that had reversed
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WWE was on top.
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And that was a magical period.
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I don't want to dismiss Vince Russo's
contributions, but they had Stone Cold
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Steve Austin and The Rock at the same
time. And that's like, you know, the
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Yankees with Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig.
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WCW, by the end of 99, they started
losing money. They were the Titanic
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to the iceberg.
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My budgets were becoming slashed.
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Eventually, I got let go in 99 because I
was fighting that. I was struggling. I
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was fighting it.
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Turner executives relieved Bischoff of
his creative duties while rumors emerged
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that Russo is overworked and frustrated
in his role at the WWF.
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Well, WWF added a second show,
SmackDown, and did not give Vince Russo
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So they went from doing one show a week
to two shows a week.
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I went into Vince's office. I said,
Vince.
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I want to be able to move my family
closer to my wife's family so my wife
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alone and she has help raising the kids.
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Because, Vince, I'm never home.
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And he turned around, bro, without
missing a beat and said, you make enough
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money, you should be able to hire a
nanny to take care of your kids.
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You don't tell a proud Italian man who
loves his family to hire a
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nanny to watch his kids. Bro, at that
moment, it was over.
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And they had me up to WCW that weekend.
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I was shocked when WCW brought him in as
a match made in heaven. Or hell,
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depending on who you talk to.
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I know I'm going into this thing.
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with a target on my back.
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This is the first time I am going to be
working with these veterans
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that have been at WCW for a long time.
From day one, Hulk and Eric were like
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this. I can actually remember locking
eyes with Hulk for the first time. And
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what I read from Hulk immediately was
mistrust.
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Vince Russo was smart enough to know
that you couldn't build around Hulk
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anymore if you wanted a future.
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So, yes, I think he was trying to figure
out a way to remove him because Hulk
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Hogan had so much power because he was
Hulk Hogan. And I've heard the critics
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ask the question, well, is Hulk Hogan
getting older?
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Well, yeah, Hulk Hogan's getting older.
And so is every other damn wrestler in
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the back, too, day by day.
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So there was this narrative that Hulk
Hogan couldn't wrestle in the ring
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anymore, he had no value, he should
retire, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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in reality, the business side of the
wrestling business still thought very
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highly of Hulk Hogan. Taking the reins
of WCW in October of 1999,
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Russo begins reshaping and reimagining
the company's flagship show, Monday
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Nitro. Vince Russo believed, you know,
the more...
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extreme and shocking you make it the
more they will like it we are just gonna
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hump you like the dogs that we are
sometimes that's right but you
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also run into a thing where once you've
done it it's you desensitize the
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audience and then there's nothing you
can do what's the worst thing that he's
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done like that he watched i i don't know
i didn't watch this shit i couldn't
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watch it I was there for three months.
The ratings went up in those three
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months. How are the ratings doing? Are
they improving?
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Well, he'll tell you that they were
improving, but no, they weren't up.
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Artificially, it looked good, but every
month, if you do the month rating, the
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October, the November, December, every
month was down slightly.
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Next thing I know, management tells me
we're going in a different direction.
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And I said, okay, fine.
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I'll go home, send me my money.
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Now that both Bischoff and Russo have
failed to turn WCW ratings around, the
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network lands on a new idea.
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Both men working together.
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Brad Siegel is the head of TNT and PBS.
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Vince, I want you to meet somebody for
lunch. I know immediately he's talking
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about Eric Bischoff. And now my job is
to oversee Vince Russo.
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You know, between Vince and Eric, I
never felt that there was a power
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My name's Jeff Jarrett. Some call me
Double J, some call me the Last Outlaw.
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I just think philosophically, those two
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guys view creating and producing
wrestling content entirely different. A
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philosophical difference as opposed to a
personality difference.
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I negotiated my contract with both Vince
Russo and Eric.
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and I much more preferred dealing with
Eric.
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Russo was the creative end of it, and he
was different.
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Vince Russo sat down with, all right,
well, he's the guy that's going to be in
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charge of creative, and he's looking at
me, and he's like, just off the top of
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my head, first thing I think of, I was
like, maybe making you Eric's
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illegitimate son.
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And I look at Eric, and Eric has the
same look on his face.
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What the hell? Isn't Eric like 10 years
older than me? How is he my illegitimate
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dad?
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I did go into it with an open mind, and
initially it was kind of fun.
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But it became apparent to me that Vince
Russo is void of any creative instincts
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or talents. You could not have put two
of the most opposite people together
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and said, go.
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With WCW in trouble, the company's
survival hinges on reversing its
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spiral.
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Eric Bischoff and Vince Russo devise a
storyline designed to play off the real
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-life backstage drama and the tensions
between Bischoff's veterans and Russo's
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desire to push younger talent.
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There's new sheriffs in town. The idea
of the program was the Millionaires Club
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versus the Youngblood, where all these
young guys that were held down, now
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they're going to get an opportunity to
shine.
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A little bit of a civil war, creatively
speaking, between young and old. Because
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that's, like, part of life, right?
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Get that damn camera out of here!
Despite their efforts, Bischoff and
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storyline fails to win over fans or
improve the ratings.
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Hmm, man. That whole year of 2000 is
kind of, like, blanked out of my mind
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because it was so bad.
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Oh, my God!
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It was destined for failure from the
beginning.
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Vince Russo, I was done with him
creatively because I knew he was a
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Eric wanted to be in charge. So I call
Brad Siegel and I say, bro, put Eric in
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charge of the show.
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Brad Siegel said to me, no, no, no, no,
no, no, Vince, we want you to write the
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show. Okay, fine.
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The next time I see Eric Bischoff, bash
at the beach.
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In the week leading up to the pay -per
-view event, Russo prepares the show
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a focus on who will emerge the next
world champion.
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That week, I walked into our creative
meeting, and I threw a question out
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at the very beginning of the meeting.
And the question was, if you could put
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WCW title on anyone in the company right
now, who would it be?
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And I went around the table, Booker T,
Booker T, Booker T, and unanimously
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everybody said Booker T. I said, well,
then that's what we're going to do.
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I had had the belt at this time a couple
of months, and so my overarching
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creative was for the chosen one, Jeff
Jarrett, to face multiple legends and be
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victorious until it was time to switch
the title.
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to Booker T.
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A lot of significance,
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a lot of upside, and I saw Vince Russo's
vision and bought into it. So the main
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event of the evening was Jeff Jarrett
versus Booker T for the WCW title with
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Booker T going over.
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He's one of those guys where you knew he
was really good. Wrestling had not been
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kind to African -American wrestlers.
Give somebody else a chance, at least
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something new. To add more intrigue to
the event, Russo makes the decision to
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give Jeff Jarrett one last win before
losing the belt to Booker T. A win over
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan. When I wrote the
very first version of the show, it was
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Jarrett against Hogan. And I wrote Hulk
Hogan very strong.
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However, he was not going to win the WCW
title. Why?
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Because you just had an entire room
agree on Booker T. Vince Russo had his
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of what he wanted to do at Bash at the
Beach.
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Hulk Hogan and I were on a completely
different page.
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What Vince Russo wanted to do didn't
freaking matter.
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Hulk Hogan had 100 % creative control
over his storyline and how his character
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was presented on television.
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Back in 1994,
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Bischoff had lured Hogan to WCW by
offering him one of the most generous
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contracts in wrestling history.
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I think the technical wording was he had
control of his finishes.
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It's like if he didn't want to lose, he
didn't have to lose.
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It's easy to sit here and say
unprecedented, but to that date, someone
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ownership but to have complete creative
control, that is a conflict of interest.
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When a talent has creative control, it
sort of comes down to the simplicity.
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Are they worried about their bottom line
or are they worried about the company's
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bottom line?
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It's radically different.
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So I wrote the first script where Hulk
Hogan looks very strong, but he does not
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win the WCW title.
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Hulk Hogan poo -pooed that first script.
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So now I rewrite the script and I really
make Hulk Hogan look like King Kong.
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Not only does he wind up killing Jeff
Jarrett, he winds up killing Scott
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Steiner. He literally winds up wiping
everybody, but he does not leave with
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title.
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Hulk says he's good with the second
version. So now I walk into Bash at the
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Beach that Sunday thinking everything's
fine and Hulk is going to do what the
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second script says.
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Eric Bischoff comes up to me and says,
you better go in the trailer and talk to
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Hulk Hogan because he's not going to do
this.
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Who's in the trailer?
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Me, Hulk Hogan, and Eric Bischoff.
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So if you want to break that down, it is
clearly two against one.
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Did Vince Russo and I discuss it several
times?
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Yes, we did.
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It was my job to oversee him. It was my
call, not Vince Russo's call.
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He didn't get to vote.
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He thought he did, but he didn't. Eric
informs me that they came up with a
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scenario, and that scenario is Hulk
winning the title. He wants to
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win the WCW title.
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Eric's idea is to blur the line between
reality and fiction with a story angle
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where Hulk flexes his creative control
claws to win the belt as Jeff Jarrett
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throws the match in disgust.
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Hulk. Angry at Jarrett's refusal to
fight is then scripted to storm out of
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ring. The idea was for Hulk to leave in
a state of frustration and anger
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as a result of the finish of the match.
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The important element of it was that
once WCW realized that Hulk Hogan wasn't
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coming back and he wasn't giving the
belt back, that would force WCW to then
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vacate that title and create a
tournament.
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for a new world heavyweight champion.
And finally, at Halloween Havoc, which
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our big October pay -per -view, the two
finalists in that tournament, before it
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physically took place, Hogan was going
to make a surprise appearance and say,
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-uh -uh, I still have the belt, and if
you want this, you've got to beat me.
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Boom.
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There's your story.
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I was pissed.
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Bro, you're pulling this bullshit the
day of a show.
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I rewrote the show twice. This show is
starting in an hour.
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It got to the point where I said, look,
we're going to get on the phone with
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Brad Siegel, and we're going to lay it
out, and we'll let Brad choose.
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And Brad said, go with Eric's idea.
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That's it.
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Now you've got the president of the
network, who's the tiebreaker.
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It was over and done.
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Eric wanted to be in charge.
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He wanted things to go back to the way
they were.
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Bro, I'm not an idiot.
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So Hulk lays out this elaborate story.
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And I know the story ends with him
winning the title. While he's laying out
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story, this ear is listening.
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This side of my brain is figuring out
another story.
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Because he's not walking out with the
title.
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Pay -per -view showtime starts at 8 o
'clock, 7, 7 .30, somewhere in that
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window. Vince comes to me and says, bro,
in his great New Yorker accent, this is
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what we're doing.
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Jeff, Hulk doesn't want to do the job
for you.
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F Hulk, laid out for him, let him leave
with his freaking belt.
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We wanted everybody to believe it.
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Jeff was not in on it. We wanted
everybody in the back to believe this.
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That was the goal.
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Vince was pretty clear, go to the ring,
we'll get the bell to start the match.
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Just make it very clear you're taking a
dive. You're laying down for him.
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And I was dumbfounded.
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And I said, Vince, this story is not
well thought out. It doesn't make any
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logical sense for Babyface to capture
gold this way. It's a real bad
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taste.
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that if a champion's going to be a
champion, don't you really want to beat
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somebody? And this was the opposite of
that.
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There's a million other options. I felt
the audience would say, this is the best
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you guys could come up with.
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I told Vince this, everybody loses in
this scenario.
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Everybody loses.
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As Bash at the Beach 2000 begins, a
storyline is in place for current WCW
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champion Jeff Jarrett to take a dive for
Hulk Hogan.
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Everyone is ready to put the plan in
motion until Jarrett begins having
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thoughts.
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When it came down to match time, I had a
real overwhelming sense of,
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do I really want to do this? Do I really
want to be a part of this mess?
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Do I really?
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want to walk the aisle and be a part of
this finish.
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Those thoughts went through my mind
because my father, my grandmother, my
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outlook on the industry, that you really
only have one boss, and that's the
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fans.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the
year 2000 WCW
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Bash at the Beach and the main event of
the evening.
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When they hit my music, I stayed in the
back.
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Where's Jared? I mean, his music's been
playing for well over a minute. There's
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no sign of him. What's going on here?
This is not like the Chosen One to stand
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us up on a pay -per -view.
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So my music played quite a while. I
think it looped two or three times.
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And I stayed over in a little tunnel and
really just thought through it. I could
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take matters into my own hands and say,
I'm not doing the dive.
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I could, you know, jump him and make him
punch me around and make him give me a
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big boot.
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What are my real options?
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What is going to protect my family and
my career, Beth?
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So much at stake here.
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I can't say that I was legitimately
angry. I can say thoroughly disgusted.
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And when I finally said, let's get this
over with, that was where my head was
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at.
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By the time I headed down the aisle way,
everything in my mind was, Hogan, you
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want your creative control so bad?
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Take it.
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You know something, Jeff Jarrett?
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You are the chosen one because I have
chosen you to powerbomb your
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ass through this match. So come on down
and get your ass kicked, Jarrett.
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Looking across the ring and looking at
Hulk and knowing that he
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orchestrated all of this.
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I never, ever looked at it in the same
way.
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What's Jeff doing?
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What's Jeff doing?
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Russo, I think, told Jared to lie down.
What's going on?
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Russo is holding the belts up like, do
you want the belt? Pin the man.
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down. And Hogan is the shot. What in the
world? Jeff Jarrett. How does the crowd
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react when Jarrett lays down?
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There's confusion, like they really
don't know what's going on.
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The essence of professional wrestling
through the generations has been the
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ability to blur the lines between what's
nonfiction and what's fiction.
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But the old promoter adage, you confuse
them, you lose them.
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We confused them, and we lost.
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This can't be Jeff Jarrett, a man that
grew up in this sport.
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What is going on?
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They just threw the world title to Hulk.
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What the hell?
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I'll be honest with you. All I want to
make sure is this plan carries out the
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exact same way I laid it out in the
trailer.
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Jeff laid down Hulk Hogan. You're going
home with your belt.
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This is all part of the story.
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Wow.
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That's why this company's in the damn
shape it's in, because of bullshit like
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this. Wow.
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Referee counted one, two, three, and I
rolled out to the ring and went straight
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to the back.
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My God, this is real life. One, two,
three.
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Ladies and gentlemen, that is not
something they go over.
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With us at the production meeting. Now,
there are swerves and there are swerves.
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We've all been swerved.
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And we went forward exactly the way Hulk
wanted to go forward. The audience
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believed that Hulk Hogan was pissed.
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And he took the belt and he left the
building. It went according to plan.
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We jump in the limo.
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We leave the arena with the belt. We go
to the airport.
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We're on the plane. We're high -fiving.
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Cracking a beer, laughing, everything
went the way we wanted it to go. As
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Bischoff and Hogan leave the arena, the
show continues.
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But what happens next will be debated by
fans and insiders for decades to come
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as Russo takes matters into his own
hands.
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Well, here's Mr. Russo. What the hell is
next?
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Thirty minutes later, the plane lands,
and all of a sudden, Hogan's phone is
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blowing up.
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So is mine.
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Russo went out and cut the scathing
promo and buried Hulk.
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This was like a big, great swerve that
somehow turned real when Russo does the
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promo later and things end up getting
worse.
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There's only one way for me to do this,
and that's for me to tell it like it is.
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You know, bro, again, these are the
things people hate me for.
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As agreed upon before the show even
started, and after Jeff Jarrett takes a
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dive, Hulk leaves the building with the
belt, enraging and confusing the
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audience. Now, to the surprise of
everyone,
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Vince Russo makes his way out to the
ring.
423
00:28:53,940 --> 00:28:56,440
Well, here's Mr. Russo. What the hell is
next?
424
00:28:56,900 --> 00:28:57,739
Now what?
425
00:28:57,740 --> 00:29:02,500
I don't know. Maybe Russo can explain to
the world what we have seen.
426
00:29:02,910 --> 00:29:08,690
My entire life, every promo I've ever
cut, there's only one way for me to do
427
00:29:08,690 --> 00:29:14,170
this, and that's for me to tell it like
it is. I don't know what I'm going to
428
00:29:14,170 --> 00:29:17,250
say. I am in the moment.
429
00:29:17,710 --> 00:29:20,330
That's real, and that's what people
believe.
430
00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:25,430
Here's where the story is. Here's where
my character is. Go.
431
00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:29,950
Let me tell you people what happened out
here in this ring tonight.
432
00:29:30,330 --> 00:29:31,670
All day long.
433
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:57,020
Because of Russo's crazy booking style,
we're all like, is this the plan?
434
00:29:57,220 --> 00:30:01,180
Are they working us? If this was the
plan, it's... stupid and if it's not the
435
00:30:01,180 --> 00:30:04,780
plan it's even stupider we're all just
in there going what the hell is going on
436
00:30:04,780 --> 00:30:10,480
hey let me tell you who doesn't give a
shit about this company that god Goddamn
437
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,460
politician Hulk Hogan!
438
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:18,500
Hogan got his belt and he went the hell
home, and I promise everybody else I'll
439
00:30:18,500 --> 00:30:22,860
go in the goddamn grave. You will never
see that piece of shit again!
440
00:30:23,340 --> 00:30:28,580
Adding to the confusion of the moment,
Russo shocks the crowd by announcing a
441
00:30:28,580 --> 00:30:29,580
new main event.
442
00:30:29,860 --> 00:30:34,000
Hulk Hogan now has the WCW belt.
443
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,260
That belt don't mean shit!
444
00:30:36,780 --> 00:30:42,820
Jeff Jarrett is still the official WCW
champion and he will defend that title.
445
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:49,520
Good night in this ring against Booker
T, who for 14 years
446
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:55,660
has been busting his ass in WCW and
can't get a goddamn break because of the
447
00:30:55,660 --> 00:30:59,340
Hulk Hogan. There were real emotions.
448
00:31:00,530 --> 00:31:05,750
Being fueled during that promo because I
had it up to here with the wrestling
449
00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:09,770
shit. I really did, bro. I was over and
I was done with it.
450
00:31:11,570 --> 00:31:16,490
And Hogan, you big bald son of a bitch,
kissed my ass.
451
00:31:21,710 --> 00:31:25,650
That was not on the format. That was not
in the production meeting. That was
452
00:31:25,650 --> 00:31:27,330
nowhere to be found anywhere until this.
453
00:31:27,630 --> 00:31:33,050
We do have Booker T now against Jeff
Jarrett for the WCW title. That was just
454
00:31:33,050 --> 00:31:34,410
Book. That's added to the night.
455
00:31:35,770 --> 00:31:40,910
My plan for the main event. Booker T
beats Jeff Jarrett and becomes the WCW
456
00:31:40,910 --> 00:31:41,990
World Heavyweight Champion.
457
00:31:42,290 --> 00:31:43,550
Booker, no! It's me, Jeff!
458
00:31:46,430 --> 00:31:48,070
So, Hogan, congratulations.
459
00:31:48,650 --> 00:31:52,510
Enjoy the title. That's the fake title.
The real title is going to be
460
00:31:52,510 --> 00:31:56,990
represented in the match with Jarrett.
Booker goes over. We've got a new champ!
461
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,360
Oh, my God. Booker T's the world
champion.
462
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,600
Booker T's the champ.
463
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,160
Oh, my God, bro. I knew Hulk was going
to be.
464
00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:10,600
Everybody is believing this.
465
00:32:11,050 --> 00:32:17,950
One thousand percent. And all I'm
reading is Vince Russo finally put
466
00:32:17,950 --> 00:32:23,170
Hulk Hogan in his place. Vince Russo
finally told Hulk Hogan what should have
467
00:32:23,170 --> 00:32:29,470
been said to him years ago. I'm reading
this and I'm saying he is going to have
468
00:32:29,470 --> 00:32:32,790
a severe problem with it.
469
00:32:33,710 --> 00:32:39,590
When Hulk gets really, really angry, he
gets very quiet.
470
00:32:40,110 --> 00:32:43,710
Like, when he stops talking, that's when
you need to start worrying.
471
00:32:43,910 --> 00:32:47,870
And he got real quiet after that. Like,
real quiet.
472
00:32:48,550 --> 00:32:53,170
Russo claims he pitched this entire
storyline to Hulk and Eric in the
473
00:32:53,350 --> 00:32:54,590
and that they agreed.
474
00:32:54,970 --> 00:33:01,490
Every single thing on that show was what
was discussed in that trailer.
475
00:33:02,060 --> 00:33:08,000
Everything from Jarrett laying down to
them leaving to me cutting the promo to
476
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:14,160
Booker T winning the title at the end.
It was exactly the way I laid it out to
477
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,160
Hogan in the trailer.
478
00:33:15,180 --> 00:33:16,760
That was never my plan.
479
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,960
I guarantee you it wasn't Hulk Hogan's
plan.
480
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,780
And by the way, Hulk Hogan had creative
control. And we certainly didn't know
481
00:33:24,780 --> 00:33:26,820
that Booker T was going to walk out.
482
00:33:27,290 --> 00:33:31,550
as a world champion. Because Hulk Hogan
had that world title and was going to
483
00:33:31,550 --> 00:33:35,050
bring it back in October at Halloween
Havoc. That was the plan.
484
00:33:35,350 --> 00:33:37,790
Oh my God, that was part of the plan.
485
00:33:38,030 --> 00:33:39,890
This is a key point.
486
00:33:40,190 --> 00:33:47,190
The reason you have to leave the
building is because if I go out there
487
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:50,810
scathing promo on you and you're still
in the building, you're going to have to
488
00:33:50,810 --> 00:33:51,629
come kill me.
489
00:33:51,630 --> 00:33:54,830
Russo may believe it, but that's where
the pathological part of being a
490
00:33:54,830 --> 00:33:56,350
pathological liar comes in.
491
00:33:56,750 --> 00:33:58,630
None of that was discussed in advance.
492
00:33:59,470 --> 00:34:04,670
None of that was approved by me. None of
it was approved by Hulk Hogan. It was
493
00:34:04,670 --> 00:34:09,330
just the most unprofessional thing that
I'd ever seen in 30 years of television.
494
00:34:10,949 --> 00:34:17,350
The next morning, a furious Hogan calls
into a local Tampa radio show, airing
495
00:34:17,350 --> 00:34:20,190
his grievances for real at Vince Russo.
496
00:34:20,710 --> 00:34:25,750
The reason Vince McMahon is home
laughing his ass off is because of a
497
00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:31,270
-off like Vince Russo. That idiot went
out there and told the people that he
498
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:33,770
responsible for me and Jared not having
a match.
499
00:34:33,989 --> 00:34:35,909
He is a very stupid man.
500
00:34:36,110 --> 00:34:39,409
But now I'm really pissed off. I don't
know how I'm going to get even with this
501
00:34:39,409 --> 00:34:40,208
Russo guy.
502
00:34:40,210 --> 00:34:45,130
They can pass that stupid -ass belt to
Booker T, but I'm the real world WCW
503
00:34:45,130 --> 00:34:48,050
champion. Did you know Hulk was going to
pursue legal action?
504
00:34:48,969 --> 00:34:51,489
Did I know that Hulk Hogan was going to
take legal action?
505
00:34:52,050 --> 00:34:53,190
How could you not?
506
00:34:53,469 --> 00:34:54,590
How could you not?
507
00:35:01,910 --> 00:35:06,350
Infuriated by the events of Bash at the
Beach, Hulk Hogan takes legal action
508
00:35:06,350 --> 00:35:13,130
against Vince Russo and WCW. Because
Hulk Hogan tonight wants to play his
509
00:35:13,130 --> 00:35:15,270
creative control card.
510
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,480
Hogan files lawsuits for defamation and
breach of contract, asserting that
511
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:25,840
Russo's off -script tirade was part of
the match outcome and violated his
512
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,100
creative control clause.
513
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,920
I believe Hogan felt double -crossed,
and whether Russo actually double
514
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,960
him or he just got carried away and said
shit he shouldn't have, I have no idea.
515
00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:42,020
But it's like, okay, you don't file
lawsuits if it was just part of a
516
00:35:42,650 --> 00:35:47,330
It gets to a judge, and the judge
basically says, let me get this
517
00:35:47,330 --> 00:35:48,530
is a wrestling show.
518
00:35:48,750 --> 00:35:55,350
Vince Russo is in a wrestling ring. He
is cutting a promo on a wrestling
519
00:35:55,350 --> 00:35:56,350
character.
520
00:35:57,070 --> 00:35:59,950
Where is the defamation of character?
521
00:36:00,490 --> 00:36:04,330
Mike, Hulk, you're really suing over
there? Shut up. I would not have been a
522
00:36:04,330 --> 00:36:05,330
good witness for that.
523
00:36:05,790 --> 00:36:06,790
Strange times.
524
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:15,580
I am cutting my promo on Hulk Hogan, not
Harry Bollea. This is a
525
00:36:15,580 --> 00:36:18,460
story. Vince Russo is a character.
526
00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:20,580
Hulk Hogan is a character.
527
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:27,100
If Vince Russo takes the position that
because he was performing as a character
528
00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:32,940
that took creative liberties with
another professional, that that somehow
529
00:36:32,940 --> 00:36:37,480
it legal and okay, is a reflection of
the man's...
530
00:36:39,060 --> 00:36:43,060
He's got more than a problem with facts
and truth. He's got a problem with
531
00:36:43,060 --> 00:36:49,060
reality. And the first judge threw it
out. They appealed it, and it went to a
532
00:36:49,060 --> 00:36:49,979
second judge.
533
00:36:49,980 --> 00:36:53,340
First of all, I don't think that it went
to multiple courts to begin with.
534
00:36:53,780 --> 00:36:57,060
It's not like they took it to the
Supreme Court for crying out loud.
535
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:03,340
The sworn depositions reveal a key piece
of information, that two days prior to
536
00:37:03,340 --> 00:37:07,140
Bash at the Beach, a fax was sent to the
WCW head office.
537
00:37:07,790 --> 00:37:14,650
I found out after the WCW office is
closed, Hulk Hogan's
538
00:37:14,650 --> 00:37:21,610
attorney faxes a letter to the WCW
office saying Hulk
539
00:37:21,610 --> 00:37:25,210
Hogan is not approving that script.
540
00:37:25,470 --> 00:37:27,810
I have no idea of this.
541
00:37:28,510 --> 00:37:33,650
Here's why that doesn't hold up. It was
never a discussion or a debate between
542
00:37:33,650 --> 00:37:39,150
Hulk. and me and Russo as to whether or
not we were going to do something other
543
00:37:39,150 --> 00:37:40,870
than what Hulk and I had laid out.
544
00:37:41,110 --> 00:37:46,970
It wasn't up for debate. Therefore, why
would there be this after -hours facts
545
00:37:46,970 --> 00:37:47,970
excuse?
546
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:52,190
I mean, I'm trying to decide between two
dishonest people discussing something
547
00:37:52,190 --> 00:37:54,710
from 20 years ago to do with the facts.
548
00:37:54,950 --> 00:37:59,170
Yeah, I don't remember facts, but, you
know, I never heard the facts story.
549
00:37:59,170 --> 00:38:00,170
just say that.
550
00:38:06,350 --> 00:38:11,970
The facts exposes Hulk Hogan's real
intentions to maximize the full strength
551
00:38:11,970 --> 00:38:16,270
his creative control and refuse any
storyline Russo proposed.
552
00:38:16,750 --> 00:38:21,150
Russo triumphs in the courtroom as an
appeals court affirms that fictional
553
00:38:21,150 --> 00:38:26,690
characters cannot be defamed. However,
it's Hogan who emerges victorious in his
554
00:38:26,690 --> 00:38:28,350
battle against WCW.
555
00:38:28,650 --> 00:38:34,680
Hulk made the decision the night of Bash
at the Beach that I probably will not
556
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:41,220
get renewed, so how can I get another
paycheck from AOL Time Warner? And
557
00:38:41,220 --> 00:38:42,220
through litigation.
558
00:38:42,260 --> 00:38:46,060
I'm trying to get out of our contract
with these guys. And Brad Siegel's real
559
00:38:46,060 --> 00:38:49,520
snug about not letting me out of the
contract, but that's all I've got to
560
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,880
Well, Hulk Hogan was the key to building
the company, and he obviously had the
561
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,700
biggest name. But nothing is forever,
and he'd been there too long, and he
562
00:38:56,700 --> 00:38:57,700
became the face of failure.
563
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:03,100
So at that point, he was getting paid so
much, but he couldn't draw ratings to a
564
00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:06,680
great degree anymore, and people weren't
going to go and pay to see Hulk Hogan
565
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,600
matches that they'd seen for all those
years.
566
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,620
There was really nothing left to do with
him.
567
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:16,220
And then you have scumbags like Dave
Meltzer, who is nothing more than a
568
00:39:16,220 --> 00:39:19,700
idiot. Even though he calls himself a
journalist, Dave Meltzer to this day
569
00:39:19,700 --> 00:39:20,658
Hulk Hogan.
570
00:39:20,660 --> 00:39:25,160
What Hulk Hogan was trying to achieve
that night remains clouded in
571
00:39:26,060 --> 00:39:29,720
You know, I've asked myself that through
the years. What was Hogan's vision?
572
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,280
What was the upside?
573
00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:32,640
What was the ultimate plan?
574
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,900
Was it to create so much controversy or
to get eyeballs on the product?
575
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:43,660
Was it to be his version of a Montreal
screwjob or his version of a publicity
576
00:39:43,660 --> 00:39:48,860
stunt? I don't know. We certainly know
the results of it, but I have no idea
577
00:39:48,860 --> 00:39:50,520
what his vision was.
578
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:52,740
And Turner settled.
579
00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:00,100
This is fun because I sat with Hulk and
his attorney, Henry Holmes, the day that
580
00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:03,620
they settled that. They took me out to
dinner and told me what happened. They
581
00:40:03,620 --> 00:40:09,980
never gave me the amount that was
confidential, but I know it was well,
582
00:40:10,140 --> 00:40:12,200
well into seven figures.
583
00:40:13,260 --> 00:40:17,400
Some folks play chess while others are
playing checkers. The night it bashed at
584
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:22,300
the beach, Hulk decided to start playing
chess, and he had the patience, and he
585
00:40:22,300 --> 00:40:23,300
cashed out.
586
00:40:33,740 --> 00:40:39,240
The facts of what actually went down at
Bash at the Beach 2000 will forever be
587
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:44,140
murky. But what was clear to fans that
night was that the chaos and confusion
588
00:40:44,140 --> 00:40:49,000
only underscored the disorder and
disintegration at the heart of the
589
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,420
It was the reality the night this
happened. And it's the reality, as I sit
590
00:40:53,420 --> 00:40:57,360
today saying this, in a business that
gave him everything.
591
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,100
And that's what he gave back.
592
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:06,680
It's about the most self -centered,
egotistical, power play move that only
593
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,340
benefited Hulk.
594
00:41:08,780 --> 00:41:10,280
And that's the reality.
595
00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:13,360
But I mean, as far as a...
596
00:41:13,670 --> 00:41:17,890
storyline based on what they were doing
at the time. It was something that would
597
00:41:17,890 --> 00:41:20,430
get people talking and could have built
to something.
598
00:41:20,730 --> 00:41:22,510
So I did like Booker T being champion.
599
00:41:22,730 --> 00:41:25,590
I thought that was cool. You know, it's
not same old, same old Hulk Hogan
600
00:41:25,590 --> 00:41:29,950
champion, right? So I guess I did like
that. I do remember that, you know,
601
00:41:29,950 --> 00:41:31,910
thinking, ah, you know, at least it's
something new.
602
00:41:32,850 --> 00:41:36,490
Hey, let me tell you who doesn't give a
shit about this company.
603
00:41:36,890 --> 00:41:43,050
That goddamn politician, Hulk Hogan. It
was destined for failure.
604
00:41:43,610 --> 00:41:44,610
from the beginning.
605
00:41:45,130 --> 00:41:49,630
At the end of it all, I don't think the
bash at the beach was the nail in the
606
00:41:49,630 --> 00:41:55,630
coffin for WCW. You see what it says
right here? This is my ass, if you will.
607
00:41:55,970 --> 00:41:58,830
You know what I mean? It was like the
gig was already up. It was just kind of
608
00:41:58,830 --> 00:41:59,830
flattering company.
609
00:42:00,290 --> 00:42:04,830
WCW was a star that became a supernova
and then burned itself out.
610
00:42:05,630 --> 00:42:11,370
In its dying days, WCW is snapped up by
its longtime arch rival Vince McMahon
611
00:42:11,370 --> 00:42:12,750
and the WWF.
612
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:18,060
despite having an attractive offer on
the table from a venture capital firm
613
00:42:18,060 --> 00:42:20,380
spearheaded by Eric Bischoff.
614
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,240
The deal for us to purchase WCW is for
$67 million.
615
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:30,080
We buy all the assets and we get
placement on Monday nights and Thursday
616
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,900
That was our deal.
617
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:37,120
And I got a phone call. They said, Eric,
it's done. I thought he meant the deal
618
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:37,879
was done.
619
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,680
Like, we own a wrestling company. I'm
about ready to jump up and start
620
00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:44,190
I said, you may have done.
621
00:42:44,330 --> 00:42:45,590
He goes, no, Eric, you don't get it.
622
00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:46,910
It's over.
623
00:42:47,250 --> 00:42:48,250
There's no deal.
624
00:42:49,170 --> 00:42:50,470
Turner took it off the table.
625
00:42:50,770 --> 00:42:53,050
It took a minute for that to sink in.
626
00:42:54,050 --> 00:42:57,670
It was a fire sale at the end. Time
Warner wanted to get rid of wrestling.
627
00:42:57,670 --> 00:43:02,830
was like $2 .5 million for the actual
WCW, and I think there's $1 .7 million
628
00:43:02,830 --> 00:43:04,250
more for the tape library.
629
00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:08,650
It was definitely the equivalent of
buying Manhattan for $25.
630
00:43:09,390 --> 00:43:10,390
That's right.
631
00:43:10,610 --> 00:43:11,610
I owe.
632
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:13,680
WCW.
633
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,200
I have zero regrets, man.
634
00:43:16,420 --> 00:43:17,620
I have zero regrets.
635
00:43:17,900 --> 00:43:22,680
You know, regret to me is a negative
thing. It's like baggage. I try not to
636
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,460
carry any baggage with me at all.
637
00:43:25,420 --> 00:43:28,060
I have said this about Vince Russo.
638
00:43:28,260 --> 00:43:34,880
Vince is a guy who's very passionate,
like a lot of us, and does what he
639
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:39,460
the viewer wants to watch.
640
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,700
And he's had successes and he's had
failures, like all of us.
641
00:43:46,180 --> 00:43:52,040
Do you know how little this shit
matters? It is a form of entertainment
642
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:58,820
at the end of the day. I don't hate any
of these people,
643
00:43:58,940 --> 00:44:05,180
bro. This was a job. People ask me all
the time today, Vince, what is your
644
00:44:05,180 --> 00:44:09,000
advice to get into the wrestling
business? And I tell them, don't.
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