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Look at this, man.
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I'm telling you, lady, send your kids
out of the room because I want you to
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a look at Bam Bam Bigelow. There's no
one who doesn't know Bam Bam Bigelow.
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if they don't know his name, if they see
the face and the head, they know it.
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His entire head was aflame. So he
started doing the flames on his suits
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boots, and you'd look out into the
audience and there's flame everywhere.
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He was just massive, but so athletic, so
quick.
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Bammer did it almost like a ballet
dancer.
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Bigelow can move for a big man. He knows
what he's doing in there.
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Look at this 400 -pound man doing flips
and cartwheels and going through the
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ring. This is crazy.
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In his time in the 80s, nobody was like
him. Like, this isn't right.
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It wasn't just Rookie of the Year. It
was Phenomenon of the Year.
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Bam! Bam!
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Bigelow!
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Arriving on the scene like a force of
nature, Bam Bam Bigelow catapulted to
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top of the wrestling world and never
looked back. You need a little
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When you've been on top in WWE and then
you're on tippity -top -top in ECW, you
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know, they beat the f*** out of each
other.
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Wrestling rewarded Bam Bam's talents
with money and fame, but those rewards
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with a heavy price.
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All the wear and tear, you're not going
to feel it right away, but it's coming.
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And that's when it changed and
everything spiraled out of control.
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You're selling your body, you're selling
your health to have fame, fortune, and
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everything that goes with it.
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People had mouths to feed. So guys did
what they had to do.
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To earn their living.
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He was in pain, and there was a doctor
involved that was willing to take that
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away, and things went downhill from
there.
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But Bam Bam's addictions eventually
pushed him beyond the point of
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destroying everything he loved.
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A trusted professional gave him the
thing that was his biggest demise.
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This doctor could have had a loaded
machine gun to our family, and it would
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been no different.
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No different.
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So just digging through the vast
archives, we have dad's calendar. And
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you go to November 15, 1987, he got
married.
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And then, you know, not even taking a
honeymoon, like he had a day off and
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he was in Des Moines, Iowa. This is
literally the first four days of his
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with the WWF in 1987.
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He definitely wanted kids right away. He
was like, I just want to stay home and
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raise the kids. You could go to work, go
to school, do what you want to do. And
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he was more excited about being a dad
than he was when he got WrestleMania.
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Hi, I'm Dana Breckinridge. I was married
to Bam Bam Bigelow.
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And when Richie came, I mean, that was
the best thing ever.
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Because all he ever really wanted was a
daughter.
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Oh, yeah. He was a giant teddy bear.
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What fans saw in the ring was...
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Not at all what we saw at home. It was
love. It was playing around.
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My name is Richie Bigelow, and my father
is Bam Bam Bigelow.
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He had this giant, giant bed that we
would all cuddle up in and just jump
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around. Yeah, it was a great time.
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When you think of your dad, what's the
first memory that comes to mind?
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It was the last time I saw him.
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We were just driving in the car, and I
was two or three years old. But I
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remember seeing his head slowly drop to
his chest.
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and then come back up.
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And whenever I think back on how I went
about the situation, I'm always so
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baffled because I was so young.
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But in some way, I understood that we
were in some sort of danger.
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And as a toddler, I went into panic
mode.
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I got to go to the bathroom. I got to
get out. Daddy, Daddy, pull over. I
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So we pulled over on the side of the
road, and he looked at me and gave me
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big, toothless smile.
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He's like, come on, do you have to go?
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We sit on the side of the road, and I
was like, no, no, but kind of stalling.
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And then we just got back on the road,
and it started happening again.
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This time we were by a diner, and we
pulled into that diner, and the next
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I know, my car door was opened, and a
man just scooped me up and put me
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in the back of this gray car.
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And from the back seat, I watched them
take my dad in handcuffs across.
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That was it.
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My mom came and picked me up, and she
was real gentle about it. And she told
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you're probably not going to be seeing
Daddy anymore.
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He needs help.
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And that was the last time I saw him.
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He wanted to be a wrestler, but he
wanted to be a father more.
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And everything was taken away.
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So was wrestling what took it away, or
was...
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Scott and all the other outside
influences, what took it away?
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Like, how did this happen?
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Here we go.
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This is dad, his sophomore year in high
school.
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Oh, my God.
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Right? They were Class A North
champions, 20 and 6. That's probably the
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time you'll see him with hair.
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Everything around Asbury Park is Bruce
Springsteen. The sound of Bruce
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Springsteen is everywhere and in
everything that we did when we grew up
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shore.
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Scott was a street kid from Neptune who
hung out in the bars of Asbury, you
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know, driving the circuit in muscle
cars. For our age and our crowd, he was
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definitely the man.
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You know what, he was probably the
kindest.
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Most genuine person of the group. We
were friends and it was just a
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And then it was a whirlwind. We were
street kids.
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Nobody thought about where they were
going.
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I didn't go to college. My friends
didn't go to college.
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He didn't go to college.
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God, the Jersey Shore was like the party
place to be.
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I was running a club called Club Xanadu
in Asbury Park, New Jersey.
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The club is actually one block from the
Stone Pony.
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And in the middle, was this place called
Quack Quack.
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It's DDP, Diamond Dallas Page, and I
know Bam Bam because I'm from the Jersey
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Shore.
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I roll into the Quack Quack, and I see
this mammoth kid.
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At some point, you know, we're doing
shots, and we just kind of clicked, you
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know, but I think he was 17 at the time,
but no one cared because he looked like
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a full -grown man. He was, you know, 300
-plus pounds.
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He could obviously be very menacing, but
he also had that fun side to him, and
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they were calling him the Beast from the
East back then.
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He was a football player, and he was
ranked in the state for wrestling, and
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was feared on the mat and on the
football field. This was the time when
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heavyweight in high school wrestling was
unlimited. So you're talking about a
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320 -pound teenager who can bench 500
pounds walking onto a mat.
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I'm Shane Bigelow, and my father's Bam
Bam Bigelow.
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I heard a story from a high school
wrestling coach that my father rolled
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ankle real bad and he couldn't wrestle,
but his coach was just like, Scotty, I
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need you to just go up there and just
look me.
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So he gets up, he steps on the scale, he
turns to the kid and he just gives him
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this big flex and just like, I'm coming
for you.
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Lo and behold, this kid is shitting his
pants. So he tells his coach, I'm not
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wrestling this guy, he's going to rip
my... Head off. All my father had to do,
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he hopped out on one leg, got his hand
raised, and took the win.
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Yeah, there was a group of the boys, and
they were rough -drinking, tattooed,
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like old sailors, but not sailors. They
were roofers.
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And they were very infamous around town.
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Him and his brothers used to jump off of
billboards.
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onto mattresses on the side of the road
when my grandmother would drive past.
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She'd be like, oh, look at those kids.
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And then she'd realize that it was her
three boys jumping onto like five
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mattresses piled high.
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Scott was very quiet. You know, he was
the baby of the bunch. They usually only
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called him in when they needed the extra
muscle.
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I heard he got in a fight and he bit
some kid's ear off. I was like, what?
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But it's part of the legend that went
with the beast from the east.
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Tough dude, ran with rugged people. He
was all that and a bag of chips, man. He
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was a bad apple when he wanted to be. I
am Taz, former ECW World Heavyweight
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Champion and former opponent of Bam Bam
Bigelow.
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Bam Bam Bigelow all over Taz! I've heard
all the stories about Bigelow, and I
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believe them all. There was a whole
separate legend before the legend Bam
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Bigelow ever became the legend.
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My name is Scott Colton Bigelow, and Bam
Bam Bigelow is my father.
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I know that he was a bounty hunter for a
short stint. I don't know much about
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the backstory of it.
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I guess I was about 18, 19 years old.
You see an ad for bounty hunter, and
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basically just picked up ale jumpers,
beat up a lot of people, and then wind
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going to Mexico to get a little girl
that was kidnapped.
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bring back a young girl who was taken
out of the country. In the whole mayday
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and craziness of the thing, his bounty
hunting partner ends up getting shot in
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the neck and killed. And that's when my
dad spent six months in a Mexican
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prison. I heard he ended up in jail, you
know, Mexico.
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So you just hear little bits and pieces.
With Scotty, they could be exaggerated.
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The story is he befriended the judge
because he used to run through the walls
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that were made out of, like, the
terracotta clay.
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He used to just break through the cells
of the walls so they couldn't keep him
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in.
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So the judge one day apparently goes to
him and asks him, he goes, I need
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security from all these cartel, mob,
whatever guys.
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So you stand in front of me and you stop
these maniacs from, like, lunging at me
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and trying to kill me, and I'll knock
your sentence down.
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So the story is that a judge took pity
on my father because my father saved him
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from a bunch of guys trying to jump over
and stab him, and he ended up letting
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them lose early.
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He's basically a New Jersey legend.
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There's a story that one night, house is
on fire, he's driving by, runs in and
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saves some kids.
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He pulled over, ran in the house and
saved the kids. That sounds like a TV
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movie. It doesn't sound like something
that really happens, you know, and there
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were a lot of stories like that just out
there floating around.
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I'm Shane Douglas, and I had the
pleasure of being partners in the triple
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with Bam Bam Bigelow.
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Who's the world champion?
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You know, I'd heard that he got
arrested, I guess, in Mexico.
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You know, that sounds implausible. Then,
like, over years, you'd hear other
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people repeating these stories, and it
just elevated that legend that was Bam
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Bam. You know, get out of the joint.
There are no jobs, you know. So I was
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bouncing, farting, hanging out with the
boys.
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Here comes Bam Bam in the club. This is
like 81 -ish. And it's packed. And
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my club was nice.
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And I see Bam rolling with like three of
his biker buddies.
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And I come rolling up behind him with my
arm around his back. I'm like, yo, Bam,
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no trouble in here tonight, right, bro?
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Oh, come on, Paige. I wouldn't do that
to you.
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And at some point we're at the bar and I
got the guys a shot and wrestling comes
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up. And, you know, I said, you know, I
tried that in 79.
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He goes, you tried wrestling?
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I said, but I had three matches. My
third match, I hurt my knee.
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And I kind of got swept away by the
boos, the broads, and the party.
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But talking to him about it, I'm like,
dude, you're a natural. He goes, that
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would be a pie -in -the -sky dream for
me.
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I just got to the point where, well,
where's my life going to go? You know, I
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don't have a college education.
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My gift was being athletically inclined.
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And so I went to a wrestling school,
which was Larry Sharp School in Munster
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Factory at the time. The rest is
history. Larry Sharp was a former
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wrestler who opened up the Monster
Factory. My name's Dave Meltzer. I'm the
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editor of the Wrestling Observer
Newsletter, and I've been covering pro
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wrestling since 1971.
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And one day, I guess Bam Bam walked in
the door, and Larry saw, like everyone
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did, money.
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And he became Scott's manager.
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Set him up on a couch, threw him in the
ring, and trained him.
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I wind up staying out there at the
Monster Factory, living out there,
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eating it, living it, sleeping it for a
year. I saw footage of him coming out of
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the Monster Factory. You could tell,
like, his aptitude to learn how to do
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and get better at this, his athleticism.
It jumped out to me right away. I mean,
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seeing a guy like that, you know, a guy
that big, you know, do a cartwheel, I
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was like, wow, he's super impressive.
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Scott, professional wrestling, it's like
a double -edged sword.
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It gave him life and it...
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Took his life.
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That's the ultimate double -edged, isn't
it?
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In 1985, Scott Bigelow was on the brink
of stardom, having made a clean break
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from a troubled path.
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When he went to the Monster Factory with
Larry Sharp, Larry really developed the
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name Bam Bam with Scott. Bam Bam, the
strong baby face. You're like Bam Bam
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the Flintstones.
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He became Bam Bam Bigelow. Probably the
most handsome wrestler on the face of
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the earth. The massive head of Bam Bam
and that big flame ball on that head,
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that tattoo.
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Who gets ink on their head? It's got to
be crazy. Nevertheless, their whole
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head, for those that never got a tattoo,
they hurt as much as they think, okay?
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This guy got his skull tattooed. Just
imagine how much pain and how many hours
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that took to do.
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This was the branding of Bam Bam
Bigelow.
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See, people love to hate, and as long as
they want to hate me, I know I'm doing
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my job.
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And it kind of just sent that message to
the fans and to other wrestlers. That's
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a bad dude right there.
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Bam Bam, do you have anything to say
about all this? I'm hungry.
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Despite being a rookie to the wrestling
scene, those with an eye for the
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business see Bam Bam's incredible
potential, especially soon -to -be
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pioneer Paul Heyman.
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Paul was doing wrestling magazines at
the time. This was before he was
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running around the business as a
manager.
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And in his magazines, he was always
promoting Bam Bam Bigelow like this
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phenomenon. And the guy never even had a
match.
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Paul worked at Studio 54. He was doing
publicity at the time. And he got this,
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you know, gig, Bam Bam Bigelow's first
match.
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And I looked at it, and I was just like,
oh, my God.
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This guy's like 380 pounds, and he's
coming off the top rope. At that point,
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know, I'm going like, this guy's going
to be like it in wrestling. Like, he's
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going to be the biggest thing.
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I was like 19 when we started dating and
I was with his brother and a couple
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other friends and we went to a show and
he got up there and he wrestled and they
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were just in awe of what it all was.
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I just was like, oh, you know, he's at
work. I didn't really know too much
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it until the WWF came knocking.
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At some point I'm running another really
big club in the 86 -ish and I'm just
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looking at channels and all of a sudden
I'm seeing wrestling and I'm like, oh my
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God.
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That's Bigelow. Take a good look because
we're bringing him from one end of the
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world to the other.
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Next thing I know, he's with Hulk Hogan.
He's in the WWF.
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And I'm like, oh, my God.
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From Asbury Park, New Jersey.
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He made it.
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Bam, bam, Bigelow.
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Not only is Bam Bam headed to the WWF,
but he's coming in with the full support
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of company owner Vince McMahon.
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WWF brought him in, and they tried to
make him into the next big thing. They
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the thing where all the managers were
bidding on him to make him extra
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I'm here to introduce Bam Bam Bigelow.
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Vince loved big guys, and now you've got
the most agile 380 -pound guy that
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anyone has ever seen.
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I mean, they brought him in to be Hulk
Hogan's tag team partner, to be right
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there with Hogan, and he was going to
main event there, and he was going to
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with the top guys.
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In the beginning, Hulk Hogan was the one
that really took me and said, okay,
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this is the business. This is how we do
it. This is serious.
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He signed the WWE contract, and we got
married November 15, 1987, and he went
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the road November 16, 1987.
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How did he propose to you?
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We were watching TV, and he was like,
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want to get married?
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And I was like, okay.
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And that was basically it. There was no
fanfare.
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I saw him ten times a year. I don't even
know.
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Maybe that's why the marriage lasted so
long. Maybe that's why I don't have
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anything bad to say.
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He was on the road and hit the ground
running, and it was on from there.
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Back in the early days with WWF, you
know, we were working 60 days in a row.
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main event in front of a pulled -out
crowd every night. And on the weekends,
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would do two shows. So it's life in the
fast lane.
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When he was home, you know, he did
regular things.
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remained very humble scott was who he
was around here but you know it was cool
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to see him on tv he was in the first
nintendo game like i said he was just
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breaking into the business and he worked
and he provided he knew to take
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advantage of that situation and take
advantage of everything that was given
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him what a monster
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Everybody that gets a pair of boots and
tights wants to be the world champion,
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right? And they think they're ready for
it yesterday.
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For me, it was 11 years before I saw a
world title. So when I did get that
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I understood the responsibility that
went with it. So I would think that Bam
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being thrown that quickly into main
events with, you know, Hulk Hogan or one
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these massive names, it would have been
intimidating. He never had to crawl his
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way up.
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There's always going to be jealousy,
especially when you've been in the
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15 years and he's been in the business
for two or one and he's on the top of
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card. He was young and these guys were
big and it was Georgie Animal Steel and
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King Kong Bundy and it was just people
that he always saw on TV and all of a
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sudden he's standing in the middle of
the ring in the Survivor Series and the
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older guys were like, you know what, you
need to step in line.
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I remember there was an Andre match.
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Of course, Andre the Giant was the
biggest man you'll ever see.
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Andre got him in the ring up against the
ropes and wrapped the rope around his
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neck. Scott was like, he's... I feel
like he's going to kill me. Andre tried
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kill me in Madison Square Garden. He
picked me up and he tried choking me
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And I was going, oh, God, don't go out,
don't go out. Madison Square Garden made
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a man sold out. He can't pass out.
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Andre thought I was just a kid, thought
I was getting too cocky or whatever.
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You know, he was laying him in.
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So, you know, Andre, he was on top of
him and he was pounding on him.
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I mean, hard.
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It was a bad night at the office for Bam
Bam Bigelow.
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And Andre said something to him like,
young boy, you know, you're a little
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for us. Like, this is how it works.
Like, you're going to learn.
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And Andre really just stuck it to him.
But, you know, they were just letting
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know he had to pay his dues. He was
green.
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And you need to wait your turn, because
it's not right now.
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After only a year in the big leagues,
Bam Bam Bigelow's match with Andre the
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Giant marks his exit from the WWF.
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He'd gotten such a big push, but at a
certain point, they did sour on him.
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Bam Bam Bigelow paid the price here.
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And it may have been ego -wise, the
other guys not liking him. And my father
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just knowing when things getting a
little too thick and it's not his time,
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moved on.
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Now on his own, Bam Bam travels the
country working for various U .S.
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before receiving a lucrative offer to
wrestle in Japan.
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I don't even know what year these are.
I'm judging by the suit, probably early
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90s. This is one of his original
Japanese suits.
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There was more money for him to be had
overseas.
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He offered me a lot of money to go work
in Japan.
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I was working with Antonio Inoki. There
was a lot of talent there.
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When he went to Japan, he was on for two
weeks and then home for two weeks. So
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he had longer stretches of time home.
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What sparked his return to WWF?
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The contract. And it was time for him to
come back to the States. I guess in his
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meeting with Vince, you know, they
worked a deal that he felt comfortable
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was a little bit more mature and he was
ready to come back.
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All right, man.
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So what do you got here?
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So this is his...
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Coming out to the ring attire when he
was in his second run in the WWF, he
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have pyrotechnics underneath here, and
they would shoot fireworks out.
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I don't fill it out as much as he did.
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He said he used to look like a tulip in
it.
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In 1992, as the WWF struggles with
declining popularity,
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Vince McMahon brings Bam Bam back to the
roster.
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Once again proving to be a top -level
star, Bam Bam gets thrust into the main
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event of WrestleMania 11.
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WrestleMania 11.
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When McMahon books him against one of
the NFL's most celebrated players.
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Lawrence Taylor.
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Probably the most media frenzy time of
my father's career.
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That was Scott's idol, like...
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LT and the Giants. Like, now I'm going
to wrestle him. You know, I'm going to
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wrestle with him.
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That build -up and that whole pomp and
circumstance of being the main
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event in WrestleMania.
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Lawrence Taylor, just me and you!
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This was a match not for wrestling fans.
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The media hype around this match has
been absolutely huge.
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This was a match for the general public.
And the idea was, is by being in the
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match, all the exposure...
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from the football press and the
mainstream press, would then make Bam
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bigger, so then he could be the big star
that they wanted him to be. That means
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I'm here. I did it. I am the 1%. Every
little boy wants to
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be a WWE wrestler.
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Almost every little boy. And he was main
event. It was a paycheck bigger than a
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lot of people make in one year.
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I see a lot of videos online.
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People, oh, it's the worst WrestleMania.
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You know what?
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There's not another person that could
have carried Lawrence Taylor to do that
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show. Business was down.
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Vince needed to hit a home run. And they
picked me because I'm the only guy that
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could take chicken shit and turn it into
chicken sour.
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You know, Vince trusted my father enough
to be the person to pull that off.
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Bam Bam soon learns that being the
company's go -to big man comes with
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sacrifice.
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The only problem working for Vince
McMahon is that if you get hurt, there's
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sympathy there. He wants you to work.
It's really hard to do because your body
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can't take that type of punishment.
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I definitely took a toll on his body.
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I mean, every time he sits in a chair
and stands up, he just squatted 400
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pounds. A lot of wear and tear on your
knees, your back, your neck, your
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shoulders. I mean, the thing that made
him so great was.
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An agile big guy, the problem with the
agile big guys is that by doing that
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stuff, a smaller guy can take that stuff
longer, and a big guy starts wearing
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down a lot.
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He definitely had some knee surgeries
and elbow surgery or shoulder surgery.
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His body was starting to take a little
bit of a licking.
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That's one thing I didn't do. I didn't
worry, and I didn't stress out. It was
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his job, and he was an entertainer, and
he was an athlete, and I was too young
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to think about... the lifelong lasting
effects of wrestling and what it would
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have on his body and his mind.
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But I do know that he knew if he was out
and he was injured too long, somebody
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was going to step up and replace him. So
that was a no -no.
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I'm not letting an opportunity walk by
me. That heavyweight championship is
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going to be mine.
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He's got multiple injuries at this
point. How is he dealing with that?
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Probably pain pills like everybody else.
But I do remember, you know, that was
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so commonplace among wrestlers then.
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It was such a part of the scene that it
wasn't like a big deal. And it was like,
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hey, do you got any Vikes?
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So you just gave them to your boy, you
know, because he needed them right
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When you see this symbol, you can be
assured of drug -free entertainment you
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be proud of.
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Been tested for marijuana and
performance -enhancing drugs, but you've
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prescription.
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You're good.
413
00:25:09,740 --> 00:25:12,920
Through that 80s and then into the 90s,
there were two things that coincided.
414
00:25:12,980 --> 00:25:16,300
This is the wrestling industry. Running
right next to that is the pharmaceutical
415
00:25:16,300 --> 00:25:19,900
industry. And the pharmaceutical
industry is now coming up with better,
416
00:25:19,900 --> 00:25:24,460
accessible opiates, OxyContin, which I
did have a problem with.
417
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:30,400
I've seen it so much in my career. So
many of my peers during that time just
418
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,300
left us way too early because of
addiction, especially pain pills.
419
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,740
He was diabetic, and he had an
endocrinologist.
420
00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:40,360
Not a pain management doctor.
421
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:46,800
And he would call and, I need PERC, I
need VITE, I need Oxy. They need
422
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:47,800
to keep me going.
423
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,460
If you were at the pool party and a doc
came by, well, I happen to have a
424
00:25:52,460 --> 00:25:58,160
refillable script of Oxycontin in return
for autographs or, you know, tickets to
425
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,460
local shows here and there.
426
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,940
It's a pretty powerful thing to have
over someone.
427
00:26:02,460 --> 00:26:07,240
They might as well have just put heroin
in a bottle and called it Oxycontin.
428
00:26:07,550 --> 00:26:12,210
I can guarantee you before that
prescription was done, he was probably
429
00:26:19,770 --> 00:26:26,310
In 1995, after a three -year run with
the WWF, Bam Bam Bigelow leaves the
430
00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:32,110
company to sign with the notorious
hardcore wrestling promotion ECW, run by
431
00:26:32,110 --> 00:26:33,730
old friend, Paul Heyman.
432
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,700
I mean, the one reason he went to ECW
was because he liked how it was local.
433
00:26:38,940 --> 00:26:42,120
Obviously, if he was in Asbury, the
whole family would get together and we'd
434
00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:44,620
go. And he knew he had a commodity.
435
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,000
You know, he didn't take his character
off. It was tattooed on his head. So
436
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,540
wherever he went, Bam Bam Bigelow was
going.
437
00:26:50,820 --> 00:26:54,340
There is only one Bam Bam Bigelow.
438
00:26:54,780 --> 00:26:59,740
I think it was a little too hardcore for
me being so young.
439
00:27:03,020 --> 00:27:07,320
All fans were riding with us. That was
the whole gimmick. We were renegades?
440
00:27:07,340 --> 00:27:09,860
Well, damn it. We the fans, we're
renegades too.
441
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,680
From fit to finish, those shows were
chaos.
442
00:27:15,140 --> 00:27:17,800
I remember this crowd just like a mosh
pit.
443
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:23,340
And this dude who is drunk as a skunk
comes barreling and just absolutely face
444
00:27:23,340 --> 00:27:27,680
punches me, trucks me right into the
ground. I'm like 10, 11 years old. I've
445
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,300
never been hit by a grown man.
446
00:27:29,580 --> 00:27:34,010
And that type of like... where you're
like, you can't catch your breath. So I
447
00:27:34,010 --> 00:27:38,590
remember going backstage, and I don't
even think I told my father anything. He
448
00:27:38,590 --> 00:27:40,510
just like saw it, and he's like, what
happened?
449
00:27:41,250 --> 00:27:45,350
And I'm like, I don't know. This guy
punched me, like went through the crowd.
450
00:27:45,390 --> 00:27:46,390
He's like, fine.
451
00:27:47,090 --> 00:27:50,370
The gentleman who did that was escorted
to the back for a conversation.
452
00:27:51,570 --> 00:27:56,610
I witnessed this quasi -conversation.
I'll never forget it. And all you hear
453
00:27:56,690 --> 00:27:57,770
so you want to hit kids?
454
00:27:58,010 --> 00:28:01,930
And you know that like, This dude is
getting the life smacked out of him.
455
00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:05,550
I don't know how else to put it. It was
very bad.
456
00:28:06,670 --> 00:28:08,050
I'm sure everybody's okay now.
457
00:28:08,790 --> 00:28:14,590
But the fans in turn are fueled by ECW's
over -the -top, ultraviolet brand of
458
00:28:14,590 --> 00:28:15,590
extreme wrestling.
459
00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:22,550
In ECW, we were a bunch of wrestlers
that most of the bigger promotions...
460
00:28:23,130 --> 00:28:27,250
They didn't want us, kind of, and we
were like the land of misfit toys and
461
00:28:27,250 --> 00:28:31,490
incorporated a lot of new stuff into pro
wrestling in a revolutionary way.
462
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:35,730
I mean, you had to be tough to be in our
company, and Bigelow was a very tough
463
00:28:35,730 --> 00:28:40,150
guy, a legitimate guy, and he really
started to come into his own amongst
464
00:28:40,150 --> 00:28:41,150
we were doing.
465
00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:46,610
The stuff that these guys were doing,
jumping off the rafters, through tables,
466
00:28:46,850 --> 00:28:51,570
getting thrown into the sand, it's just
as hardcore as hardcore can get.
467
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,700
We weren't just trying to hurt each
other. We were professionals. What
468
00:28:56,700 --> 00:28:57,940
in that ring is built on trust.
469
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:03,900
So the infamous Taz and Bigelow go
through the ring in Asbury Park.
470
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:10,200
So I get this phone call from Paul
Heyman, and he says, you and Bigelow,
471
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,820
going to beat you for the belt, and he's
going to put you through the ring to do
472
00:29:13,820 --> 00:29:14,960
it. He goes, what do you think?
473
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,560
And the first thing I thought is, I'm
going to die.
474
00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:21,300
So the way a ring is constructed, it's a
steel frame.
475
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,340
And then there's these thick wood
boards.
476
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,260
And then there's kind of like a cushion.
It's not as big as a mat.
477
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:29,700
And then a canvas.
478
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,360
So these wood boards were cut first.
479
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,660
So then the boards would just be moved
out of the way. Then open the trap door.
480
00:29:36,940 --> 00:29:38,360
And Bam Bam was concerned.
481
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,060
What about Taz's head?
482
00:29:40,260 --> 00:29:43,380
Like his head's going to hit the frame
of this thing. How are we going to clear
483
00:29:43,380 --> 00:29:44,199
this hole?
484
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,220
I almost feel dirty explaining this on
air.
485
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,380
I'm so old school. Like it's like
unbelievable.
486
00:29:51,580 --> 00:29:54,940
Basically, we fought, fought, fought. We
were outside the ring for quite some
487
00:29:54,940 --> 00:30:00,380
time fighting until we get the signal
that this door is open.
488
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:09,800
So if you watch closely, when I have the
choke on, and I'm really
489
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,860
pulling back this curtain all the way
here, right? So Bam Bam, he's tapping
490
00:30:13,860 --> 00:30:16,440
first, and then he puts his hand on the
top rope.
491
00:30:16,860 --> 00:30:19,980
Under his hand is a little piece of
white tape.
492
00:30:20,430 --> 00:30:24,830
That white tape was the measurement to
clear my head.
493
00:30:26,370 --> 00:30:31,290
And we hit that crash mat hard as hell.
494
00:30:33,330 --> 00:30:37,110
The ring engulfs us, and we heard the
people.
495
00:30:38,750 --> 00:30:44,670
My eyes lit up. I was so happy. And the
first thing he says to me, are you okay?
496
00:30:45,270 --> 00:30:46,470
That's Bam Bam Bigelow.
497
00:30:46,970 --> 00:30:48,150
And he goes, we...
498
00:30:48,810 --> 00:30:49,489
Did it.
499
00:30:49,490 --> 00:30:52,610
And we were laughing because the place
was rumbling.
500
00:30:52,850 --> 00:30:56,410
He waited for the people to come down a
teeny bit. And then once they saw him
501
00:30:56,410 --> 00:30:59,850
come out first, we knew the pop would be
loud. But I don't know if we knew it
502
00:30:59,850 --> 00:31:02,910
was going to be that loud. I mean, it
was just, I'll never forget it as long
503
00:31:02,910 --> 00:31:03,910
I live.
504
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:05,810
I got goosebumps.
505
00:31:07,930 --> 00:31:10,850
I mean, so many things that could have
gone wrong. You could break your back.
506
00:31:10,970 --> 00:31:11,970
You could break your neck.
507
00:31:12,090 --> 00:31:14,730
But Scotty never, ever said no to
anything.
508
00:31:15,310 --> 00:31:17,810
It's a small miracle that Bigelow is
moving.
509
00:31:18,950 --> 00:31:20,510
ACW was definitely extreme.
510
00:31:20,810 --> 00:31:22,470
I'm just surprised nobody died.
511
00:31:22,730 --> 00:31:24,730
I am really surprised nobody died.
512
00:31:25,010 --> 00:31:29,110
You would see him come out. He'd have,
you know, giant gashes on his head, and
513
00:31:29,110 --> 00:31:32,090
he would just put some superglue on it,
close it up, and then we would go have a
514
00:31:32,090 --> 00:31:35,170
cheesesteak. I can't tell you how many
times he's been sewed up in our living
515
00:31:35,170 --> 00:31:37,970
room. Doctors just would come over and
just sew him up in the middle of the
516
00:31:37,970 --> 00:31:39,030
night while he was half asleep.
517
00:31:39,370 --> 00:31:43,010
So the injuries were the beginning of
the end.
518
00:31:43,390 --> 00:31:44,390
He had...
519
00:31:44,940 --> 00:31:50,440
Stenosis in the entirety of his spine.
He had crushed discs. He had sections
520
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,740
fused of his back at that time. You
could run your finger down his spine and
521
00:31:54,740 --> 00:31:59,700
could feel almost like braille. Pills
just allowed him to move.
522
00:31:59,980 --> 00:32:04,420
If you didn't go out and you didn't put
on a show, you weren't getting paid.
523
00:32:04,660 --> 00:32:11,380
So I understand the aspect of having to
take something to basically push you
524
00:32:11,380 --> 00:32:12,380
through that.
525
00:32:12,510 --> 00:32:16,870
I did see Bigelow struggling a little
bit physically, but he hit it well.
526
00:32:17,170 --> 00:32:21,030
He wouldn't tell you if you had to go
for a match, hey, dude, I'm hurting
527
00:32:21,090 --> 00:32:26,130
my shoulder hurts, my neck hurts, my
back hurts. He was just, let's go, let's
528
00:32:26,130 --> 00:32:27,130
it, whatever it was.
529
00:32:29,290 --> 00:32:34,310
The pain pills Bam Bam Bigelow consumes
allow him to continue performing at the
530
00:32:34,310 --> 00:32:38,330
highest level, but they also take a toll
on his life away from the ring.
531
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:43,760
He was never, never, never aggressive.
And he was always very respectful. And
532
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:48,180
became angry. He would at times be very
coherent and at times be very
533
00:32:48,180 --> 00:32:51,980
incoherent. And he would be like, you
are just crazy and you're making things
534
00:32:51,980 --> 00:32:56,240
up. I'm under a doctor's care and this
is what I have to do to be in the
535
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:01,820
business. It was a doctor, an MD, who
got paid a lot of money to treat him for
536
00:33:01,820 --> 00:33:05,900
one disease and gave him a whole other
one.
537
00:33:06,300 --> 00:33:11,580
The pill bottles from that doctor, I've
never seen a pill bottle that size in my
538
00:33:11,580 --> 00:33:12,459
life before.
539
00:33:12,460 --> 00:33:14,380
100 pills, 300 pills.
540
00:33:14,820 --> 00:33:19,020
This doctor was a fan, and he would have
done anything that Scott wanted,
541
00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:21,720
regardless of his license, and he did.
542
00:33:22,380 --> 00:33:26,880
Scott was in denial, and so was the
doctor, because I would call him and
543
00:33:26,980 --> 00:33:30,520
stop writing these prescriptions, you're
destroying our lives, you're ruining
544
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,520
our family.
545
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,420
And that doctor's response, he would
call my father and say that the warden's
546
00:33:35,420 --> 00:33:41,800
calling me, telling me not to come over,
undermining my mother to my father in
547
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,680
an already weakened state.
548
00:33:44,180 --> 00:33:45,820
Nobody's paying attention to these
doctors.
549
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,220
You're a drug dealer because he was not
a pain doctor.
550
00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:51,700
It's a tragedy.
551
00:33:51,780 --> 00:33:55,280
Scott sold his soul for OxyContin.
552
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,880
And he would have stepped over us in the
street to get them.
553
00:34:05,260 --> 00:34:10,380
Bam Bam Bigelow's addiction continues to
get worse, fueled by an endless supply
554
00:34:10,380 --> 00:34:12,320
of OxyContin from his doctor.
555
00:34:13,179 --> 00:34:15,820
OxyContin is one of America's new wonder
drugs.
556
00:34:16,060 --> 00:34:19,860
Since the drug came on the market, the
number of annual prescriptions has risen
557
00:34:19,860 --> 00:34:21,260
to nearly 6 million.
558
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,380
Contributing to the problem are pill
mills, where doctors write prescriptions
559
00:34:25,380 --> 00:34:26,760
for non -medical reasons.
560
00:34:27,139 --> 00:34:29,320
He wasn't going to buy drugs off the
street.
561
00:34:29,620 --> 00:34:32,520
He was home taking OxyContin.
562
00:34:32,969 --> 00:34:37,389
And then I got pregnant with Richie and
then the promises, you know, this is
563
00:34:37,389 --> 00:34:40,070
going to be different. We're going to
get through this.
564
00:34:41,010 --> 00:34:43,850
I think he tried to pull himself
together because he said he always
565
00:34:43,850 --> 00:34:47,969
daughter his whole life. It was like
beyond anything to have this daughter.
566
00:34:48,250 --> 00:34:51,310
And when she was little, he used to put
her to bed every single night and he
567
00:34:51,310 --> 00:34:54,330
would get a pillow and he would lay on
the floor next to her and he would sing
568
00:34:54,330 --> 00:34:58,370
her songs and hold her hands. And he was
in her room on her floor every night.
569
00:34:59,390 --> 00:35:04,180
Wednesdays. Every Wednesday, my dad
would pick me up from, preschool, big
570
00:35:04,180 --> 00:35:09,880
truck, eat all the Doritos you can
imagine, paint pictures, just normal
571
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:10,880
-daughter relationship.
572
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:16,000
When he was around, he was focused on
being with us and spending time with us.
573
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,360
What are you doing, boy?
574
00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:23,280
His body was a little hindered and he
was starting to feel the pain, but, you
575
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,000
know, that didn't stop us from...
576
00:35:25,340 --> 00:35:28,900
going to every opening day for fishing,
every opening day for hunting.
577
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:34,080
He got to be a dad without being on the
road 300 -plus days a year. Those are
578
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,080
the fondest memories.
579
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:41,520
There's no pension in professional
wrestling, so he needed to make as much
580
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,100
as he could with the body that he had
because he knew it was deteriorating. He
581
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:49,500
even says that he's the highest -paid
loser in the world because he'll take a
582
00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:50,980
loss as long as that loss pays.
583
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:55,560
I'm the guy who helped bring Bam Bam in
to WCW.
584
00:35:55,780 --> 00:36:01,120
When he heard that I was wrestling,
somehow he got my number. He's like,
585
00:36:01,260 --> 00:36:02,260
you're doing it.
586
00:36:02,380 --> 00:36:07,380
Like, we grew up maybe seven miles from
each other. These two Jersey Shore boys.
587
00:36:07,620 --> 00:36:09,080
But now we're tag team champions.
588
00:36:09,780 --> 00:36:13,740
I never felt like he was under the
influence in the ring. But eventually,
589
00:36:13,740 --> 00:36:17,260
know, people start to go back to their
old habits. And that's why so many guys
590
00:36:17,260 --> 00:36:18,260
died.
591
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,380
Overconsumption of pills.
592
00:36:21,020 --> 00:36:27,200
Because when you're taking five at a
time, because three stopped working, you
593
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,640
can't remember if you took them or not.
So you take five more, you know, and
594
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,560
before you know it, you're that guy.
595
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:39,660
He went on the road, and he would not
show up to shows or tapings.
596
00:36:39,860 --> 00:36:43,180
He was in Arizona, and friends of ours
were there.
597
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,100
And he didn't make it to the show, and
they called home, and I was like, what
598
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:48,140
you mean? He's there.
599
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,300
It got to the point where he was a
liability, and that's what they said.
600
00:36:53,740 --> 00:36:56,880
And they paid him the rest of his
contract to stay home because he could
601
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:57,880
function.
602
00:36:58,820 --> 00:37:00,060
I saw a man broken.
603
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:06,220
He's away from his family, and he's not
in the best physical shape because he's
604
00:37:06,220 --> 00:37:10,720
in constant pain, you know, having to
take a pill just to get up, and not just
605
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:14,980
pill, multiple pills. But the tradeoff
of that is it completely dulls your
606
00:37:14,980 --> 00:37:16,120
senses. It completely...
607
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,960
Just destroys your sense of person.
608
00:37:19,300 --> 00:37:21,060
How many pills do you think he was
taking a day?
609
00:37:21,260 --> 00:37:23,400
15, 20 Oxycons, easily.
610
00:37:23,700 --> 00:37:24,499
A day?
611
00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:26,020
Yeah. It was dangerous.
612
00:37:26,420 --> 00:37:30,480
And a situation happened with the
youngest where it became very dangerous.
613
00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:36,320
I had wrote a paper about it when I was
in 8th grade. And I went back and read
614
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,080
it last night, understanding that what
was happening is I'm writing about my
615
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,000
father nodding out, driving.
616
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,140
And when I wrote that in 8th grade, I
had no idea that's what was...
617
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,640
going on. And I remember the officers
were asking me all these questions.
618
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,540
I mean, for a three -year -old, they're
asking me my address, my phone number,
619
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,220
my mom's phone number, like all this
information. And I'm just like, I don't
620
00:37:57,220 --> 00:37:58,220
know. Where's my dad?
621
00:37:59,060 --> 00:38:03,180
But when I went back last night and read
it, really knowing what was going on,
622
00:38:03,220 --> 00:38:06,440
what was in his system, it just hits 10
times harder.
623
00:38:07,860 --> 00:38:13,020
As Bam Bam Bigelow's addiction sends him
crashing to rock bottom, he's charged
624
00:38:13,020 --> 00:38:15,220
with endangering the welfare of his
daughter.
625
00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:19,230
He was given an ultimatum. I'm like,
you've either got to go get help or you
626
00:38:19,230 --> 00:38:20,169
have to go.
627
00:38:20,170 --> 00:38:21,290
He wouldn't get help.
628
00:38:21,970 --> 00:38:26,570
And he went. He didn't see that he had a
problem the way that he did, the way
629
00:38:26,570 --> 00:38:27,770
that addicts do.
630
00:38:28,170 --> 00:38:30,090
You know, dad's not going to be home
anymore.
631
00:38:30,430 --> 00:38:31,450
They're getting a divorce.
632
00:38:32,510 --> 00:38:34,870
That's when he picked up and basically
went to Florida.
633
00:38:35,420 --> 00:38:36,920
He was married to a drug.
634
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,420
So to watch a man who would choose that
over his children, when I knew that that
635
00:38:41,420 --> 00:38:43,640
was the most important thing, was just
the worst thing ever.
636
00:38:43,900 --> 00:38:48,700
I got to talk to him on the phone, but
it would be like spans of where it would
637
00:38:48,700 --> 00:38:51,040
be really quiet because I could hear him
crying.
638
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:56,360
He was struggling to form the words, hi.
639
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,400
I went down to Tampa, spring break, my
senior year.
640
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,300
I wanted to go down there to see my
friends, but I really just wanted to go
641
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:05,300
there to find my dad.
642
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:12,400
And his girlfriend answered the phone,
said he wasn't
643
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,720
available at the point in time.
644
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:19,300
And then I got a phone call when I
landed back in New Jersey from my father
645
00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:24,240
apologizing. And, you know, I kind of
aired him out a little bit. I told him
646
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:25,240
I felt.
647
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,740
And then he died three weeks later.
648
00:39:33,260 --> 00:39:38,020
I was in school teaching, and a phone
call got patched to my classroom, and it
649
00:39:38,020 --> 00:39:41,520
was his brother, Todd, and Todd said,
he's gone.
650
00:39:42,980 --> 00:39:45,820
I was like, what do you mean? He's like,
he's gone, and he was crying
651
00:39:45,820 --> 00:39:50,000
hysterically, and I just hung up the
phone and ran out of the building, and
652
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,600
Shane was in college.
653
00:39:51,940 --> 00:39:53,060
Yeah, I got that call.
654
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:54,720
I'll never forget.
655
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,960
I'm walking back through the quad.
656
00:39:57,340 --> 00:40:01,780
There's kids going to class, and I got a
phone call from my father's childhood
657
00:40:01,780 --> 00:40:03,930
friend. Your father died last night.
658
00:40:05,150 --> 00:40:09,670
And it's just like everybody around you
is moving fast and you're just still.
659
00:40:10,990 --> 00:40:12,510
I just remember being numb.
660
00:40:13,790 --> 00:40:14,870
It rocked me.
661
00:40:16,210 --> 00:40:23,150
What I heard at that time, he was, you
know, going through
662
00:40:23,150 --> 00:40:24,150
a tough time.
663
00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:27,870
I thought of his family instantly
because I know how much he loved his
664
00:40:27,870 --> 00:40:30,270
and his wife. You know, I just felt for
him.
665
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:31,920
He died of an overdose.
666
00:40:33,140 --> 00:40:37,060
Accidental overdose, but the word
accidental and overdose should just not
667
00:40:37,060 --> 00:40:37,899
the same sentence.
668
00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:40,700
How do you accidentally, oops, took one
too many?
669
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,520
Took one too many for a long time.
670
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,900
On January 19th, 2007.
671
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:58,140
At just 45 years of age, Bam Bam Bigelow
dies by what authorities call an
672
00:40:58,140 --> 00:41:02,320
accidental overdose from a cocktail of
illicit and prescription drugs.
673
00:41:02,940 --> 00:41:05,460
I didn't grieve. There was none for me.
674
00:41:05,860 --> 00:41:09,860
Because I was scrambling. I had kids.
They couldn't see me break down. They
675
00:41:09,860 --> 00:41:13,740
couldn't see me weak. And that's all I
became, was a provider.
676
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,800
I didn't have time to coddle and
nurture.
677
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,980
That's the hardest part on me now.
678
00:41:19,580 --> 00:41:24,900
Towards the end, it was very difficult
with my mother. Just because that was my
679
00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:25,900
dad, that was my hero.
680
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,420
My mom had to make a really tough
decision.
681
00:41:28,940 --> 00:41:33,380
You know, for a while I never understood
why we couldn't just go see dad.
682
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,280
And when you don't understand, you just
think it's selfish.
683
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:44,260
But then when you do, you become
appreciative that you weren't exposed to
684
00:41:44,260 --> 00:41:46,800
something that would have been just so
heartbreaking.
685
00:41:47,460 --> 00:41:54,000
As a father, I think it just digs into
you that when you think if there was no
686
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,180
compunction for Bamber to reach out for
some kind of help, that he must have
687
00:41:58,180 --> 00:41:59,740
thought that he had it under control.
688
00:41:59,940 --> 00:42:03,900
He must have figured this is not really
a problem because of how much he talked
689
00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:04,859
about his kids.
690
00:42:04,860 --> 00:42:11,700
It's been just honoring the legacy of
Bam Bam. I never really got to
691
00:42:11,700 --> 00:42:13,380
stop and acknowledge my own pain.
692
00:42:14,180 --> 00:42:17,600
You always think about if you had one
last chance.
693
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,080
what you would say.
694
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,260
I think there's more ask, which is why.
695
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,980
His kids lost their dad at a young age.
It's sad, you know, because Bigelow,
696
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,100
like so many of us wrestlers during that
time, was on the road a lot. You know,
697
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,820
you're not around. You're making a
living for your family.
698
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,580
If God was here, what would you say to
him?
699
00:42:37,900 --> 00:42:38,900
Your mother.
700
00:42:39,780 --> 00:42:43,820
But through years of therapy, I know you
had no control.
701
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,760
It's not your fault. I don't blame you.
702
00:42:48,220 --> 00:42:51,880
You know, nobody wakes up in the morning
and says, I'm going to be a drug addict
703
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,340
today. You wake up every morning and
you're like, today's going to be a
704
00:42:55,780 --> 00:42:57,360
But I would call him a mother******
first.
705
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,320
Just because he would expect that.
706
00:43:00,660 --> 00:43:03,740
I can't fault him for what happened.
707
00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:07,000
You had to keep going. That's how you
put the bread on the table.
708
00:43:07,300 --> 00:43:10,420
I signed all the rights over to the
kids, so they got all the royalty
709
00:43:10,780 --> 00:43:13,760
So he and his death still supported
them.
710
00:43:14,300 --> 00:43:16,740
As far as being a big man, who's better
than Bam Bam?
711
00:43:17,060 --> 00:43:18,500
Nobody. There's nobody.
712
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,740
The best big man in the business. The
guy that was doing cartwheels, moonsaws,
713
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,960
job kicks, and things that they never,
ever seen another big man do before.
714
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,720
That's what I want to be remembered as.
When I think of pro wrestling, I think
715
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:35,700
of power. I think of size. I think of my
father.
716
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:44,100
He was
717
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:46,040
a great person in how he lived.
718
00:43:46,620 --> 00:43:50,180
And all the wonderful things that he did
for people and the great father that he
719
00:43:50,180 --> 00:43:52,200
was should be what is remembered.
720
00:43:52,420 --> 00:43:55,040
Not how he died, because that's a
terrible story.
721
00:43:55,540 --> 00:43:57,480
But he left such a legacy.
722
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,940
He was at 1%.
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