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Abdullah the Butcher was like a
nightmare come to life.
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He terrified people.
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Just a savage, bloody, thirsty machine.
Trying to rip the eyeball.
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When Abdullah walks in the ring, you
know you're going to get blood.
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Every match he was in, he bled.
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You bled.
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One of the most infamous wrestlers of
all time, Abdullah the Butcher, left a
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legacy of violence and bloodshed
wherever he went. From Puerto Rico.
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to Japan, and across North America.
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You can't think of a heel that was
bigger than Abdullah.
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You can't.
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He made money everywhere he went. But
the more money we made, the more danger
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had to face.
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Even though Abdullah was playing a
character, inside, that was him.
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He would have people with slingshots
hitting him and throwing things at him
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because they think he's a damn guy.
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Fans at ringside, when he got too close,
I mean, they were running.
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Everybody's bloodthirsty.
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Everybody is bloodthirsty. They want it.
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Notorious for blurring the line between
reality and fiction, Abdullah remained a
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mystery even to those closest to him.
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You all know the wrestler.
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You don't know the person.
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He's a hero all the time.
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He is a very good person.
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In a gruesome but successful career
spanning seven decades, Abdullah's
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for blood made him infamous, but also
led to his downfall.
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He cost me my WWE career. That was a
fact. The Hep C caused me not to have my
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WWE contract.
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You're a piece of shit, and I hope that
when you die, you die a really slow and
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painful death.
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Acting like he finds the taste of the
blood pleasurable.
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Abdullah the Butcher would come into a
regional wrestling territory and just
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business on fire.
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Blood everywhere!
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The difference between Abdullah and
everyone else is when anyone else came
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the territory, fans were rooting for
their favorite to win.
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When Abdullah came in, they were rooting
for their favorite to survive.
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Hello, I'm Mick Foley, sometimes known
as the Hardcore Legend, and I have been
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involved with professional wrestling
since 1985.
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I knew of the legend of Abdullah because
in those days, you learned about people
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outside of your geographic area largely
by the magazines.
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And the magazines painted this amazing
portrait of this unstoppable monster.
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I was so intrigued by Abdullah the
Butcher that the first thing I did when
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to college as a freshman is I put a
black and white photo of him on the wall
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began to tell the entire dormitory that
he was my father.
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When you have those taekwondo karate
pants, and you see him with a fork with
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all those gigantic cuts, and he opens
those big eyes, and you see him on
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eating liver and the blood of the liver
coming out, that's Abdullah the Butcher,
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and he was unstoppable.
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My name is Hugo Sabinovich. I'm from
Guayaquil, Ecuador, and I've been in
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passionate industry.
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For close to 50 years, and I will do it
again, love Lucha Libre.
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No one was safe.
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Not the referee, not the owner of the
company.
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He will put fear into your body, into
your brain, your soul.
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What's happening in here?
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Can you explain to everybody what you're
watching?
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Yeah. Eating the raw meat.
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Chicken. Uh -huh. And he could even take
a phone book and
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tear it in half.
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Mm -hmm.
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My name's Josephine Heron Shreve.
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Abdullah the Butcher is my brother.
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Windsor at that time when I...
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When I was growing up, I always say,
that's old school.
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And it was like we was raised in a two
-bedroom house, wartime house. There was
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eight of us.
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Two or three of us slept in a bed
together.
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I had my own room because I slept in the
bathtub.
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I had a cushion to put in there.
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My father and I had to go to the
bathroom. They'd piss in a can.
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My mother had to come in the washroom.
She'd knock on the door, and I'd get out
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of the tub and let her in.
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But I don't think my mother wanted to
piss in a can.
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Okay, that's the way it was.
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My name is Ralph Shreves.
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I don't... Larry calls Shreves' brother
as Adoodle the Butcher.
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I call him Larry.
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That's his name to me.
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Adoodle the Butcher is his money name,
his wrestling name.
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If you ever interview him, you just look
at his damn head.
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You ever interview him? Oh, there you go
then.
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I guess he tells the truth, but I'll
tell you one thing.
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There I think you should be better off
talking to him a longer distance.
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You're at the end.
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You have your ass jump up in one minute.
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And you're scared to death.
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He's a good actor.
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I got my head off. Let me take my head
off.
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Looking good.
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Very good.
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Oh,
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it really is you.
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My name is Larry Shreve.
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My other wrestling name is Abdul the
Butcher.
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I'm from Khartoum, Sudan.
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But now, since I'm pretty near out, I'm
from Khartoum, Sudan, Windsor,
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Ontario.
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Your parents had to take care of a lot
of kids?
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Like, was it challenging? Oh, they
worked hard. My mother worked hard. My
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worked hard.
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Yeah.
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When I see my mother on the floor,
scrubbing floors,
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You know, at a funeral home, I said to
myself, holy shit, my mother works hard.
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But I never knew that she was on her
hands and knees until I went there.
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I didn't want to learn how to read or
write because I was only worrying about
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mother and father.
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I wanted to make money.
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I used to buy candy, three for a penny,
go to school.
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You want to buy some candy?
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Right?
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I'd sell it for maybe a penny a piece or
whatever, where the kids owed me money.
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And I said, when are you going to pay me
my money?
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So maybe he got scared, like I was going
to do something, right?
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So he wouldn't go to school.
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Maybe his mother came and says, my kid
is scared to come to school.
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And that was it. Then I said, I got to.
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get out of here and try to make some
money where I don't have a problem.
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And that's what I've done.
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So Larry only finished the second grade?
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He only finished the grade second. I was
a year smarter than him, and I'm not
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really that smart myself.
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But I'm saying we've done a lot. Larry,
he went to people's houses knocking on
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their door and asking for old clothes
and all that.
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And he had a second -hand store with all
kinds of old clothes. And he had a
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store. He shined shoes for years.
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Then he got a janitorial service, a
business.
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He had people cutting grass and all
that. He had a truck where he went
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moving stuff out of people's basements
and all that. He was a worker. Let's
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say he was always a hustler.
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He'd been in the karate and all that. He
had a karate place where, like senior
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citizens, he trained them.
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to learn how to defend yourself.
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That's right in Windsor. You had about
eight or nine old ladies in their 60s or
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70s, and he had it where they could
defend themselves.
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Just old people and that.
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I was down at the Windsor Arena, and I
was doing karate and stuff like that,
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the manager of the place, he said, hey,
you should be a wrestler. I said, oh, I
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don't want to do that crap.
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He said, you can make some money.
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I said, oh, okay.
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Abdullah crosses the river to Detroit,
where he meets the original Sheik, one
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the innovators in hardcore wrestling.
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Wait a minute. The Sheik has got that
fire. That despicable act of biting.
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Abdullah playing an Arabic wrestler,
they only had one at that time, and that
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was, they called him the Sheik, not the
Aaron Sheik, the Sheik out of Detroit.
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He used to do all that stuff, you know,
cut you with your forehead, walk around
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crazy.
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Hi, this is Mr. USA, WWE Hall of Famer,
Tony Atlas.
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You're up watching at the Sheep. He
imitating the Sheep.
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I told
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my dad, I said, Dad, I'm wrestling at
Cobo Hall.
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My dad said, those are some dangerous
people over there.
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My dad used to see me with cuts on my
head.
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He told my mother, tell him that he
better get out of that shit.
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I said, Dad, listen.
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Smack me.
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He said, for what?
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I said, just smack me.
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He went... You see me bleeding.
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He said...
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I didn't hit you that hard.
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Then I showed him the blade.
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He said, now I know you're crazy.
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Having learned this bloody trick of the
trade, Abdullah travels the world
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showcasing his hardcore style.
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While working in Puerto Rico, he meets
promoter Carlos Colon and his right
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man, Hugo Savinovich.
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I started working with Carlos, and they
say, you're good, but you're not big
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enough. He says, I want to make you a
manager.
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And then he says, by the way, we're
bringing into Puerto Rico one monster, a
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dude of the butcher. And I had heard of
him, and I said, wow.
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I mean, what a way to begin a managing
career.
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Managing him, it was, you know, just a
crazy, crazy way of earning a living.
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Everybody just going crazy here.
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By 1983, he was already drawing gigantic
money in the Caribbean islands and
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Puerto Rico. People will fill up the
stadium.
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Abdullah will make the promoter, Carlos
Colon, look good.
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But at the same time, he will destroy
them. Perhaps the fear of being involved
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in this match.
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Abdullah would wrestle in Puerto Rico
for a couple of months. He wrestled in
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Japan for a couple of months. And then
he would come back to the States.
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And he was a big draw.
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I mean, he went and he drew money.
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Abdullah was worth every penny that he
got paid. And trust me, he was making
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huge money.
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He lived really like a rich guy.
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Abdullah was very cautious of his money.
When he got paid, as soon as you give
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it to him, he'd count it.
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I made sure my mother and father, my
brothers and sisters, Got something of
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My mother used to work for the funeral
home and stuff like that.
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I went there one day, and I said, come
on, Ma.
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She said, what?
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She said, I want you to meet Mrs. I
said, I don't want to meet them.
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You understand?
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You're here scrubbing floors and stuff
like that, and I'm supposed to be a
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butcher, and you're on your hands and
knees scrubbing floors and stuff?
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From that day, she never worked another
day in her life, and I made sure of
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that.
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But I was dumb.
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I didn't have the schooling.
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Like I tell you, if I know what I know
now, everybody shafts me.
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You understand?
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Despite his successful and profitable
rise to fame, Abdullah today finds
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in legal trouble and financial ruin.
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What has the whole situation been like
for you personally?
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Hell.
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You don't know who in hell is working
with you or working against you. You
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understand?
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I'm in bad shape.
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Real bad shape.
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And anybody, anywhere, that does not
fear the name of the almighty
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Abdullah the butcher is either an insane
fool or they're lying to you.
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With Larry Shreve, yeah, it could be
really difficult for a fan to know where
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the character ends, where the real
person begins.
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For someone who rode with him for
hundreds of hours, yeah, you get to know
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real guy or what he wants to show you of
the real guy.
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See, he always talked about he's an
entertainer.
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He's entertaining you.
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But the real true person, you all don't
know.
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My name is Jocelyn Malika Marshall.
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I met Abdullah while I was on the street
feeding the homeless.
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He told me his name was Joe, and I was
just so excited to see somebody else out
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there like myself feeding the homeless.
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So I didn't know he had a restaurant.
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He gave me the address of the
restaurant.
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And I brought my son over there. My son
said, did you know who that is? He said,
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that's Abdullah the Butcher.
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And I said, who is that? Because I'm not
into wrestling.
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Abdullah was his hero.
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Your son liked all the bad guys.
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He loved the bad guys, yes.
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Abdullah was the best heel that the
world ever saw.
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Even picturing my head now, just the way
he stands, the way he moved around the
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ring, and the things he did.
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To see a whole crowd of people move
back, he could walk through an aisle and
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people would run from him.
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And when he'd come through that ring,
people would go, uh -oh, here come
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Abdullah.
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It got so, it wasn't a gimmick. He was
in character most of the time,
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when it went public.
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I remember seeing a flight attendant go
over to him, and as soon as Abdul was a
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flight attendant, eyes bugged out, his
mouth started watering, and she tried to
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get his beverage order and just walked
away. I was like, Abby, are you okay? He
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goes, got to protect the character,
champ.
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Got to protect the character.
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And that's what he would do. And so in
his own way, he would create this
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grassroots campaign for the authenticity
of his character.
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When he went into the ring with any
wrestler, he made them a good wrestler.
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If you fight Abdullah, you fought
Abdullah, you got over him.
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People knew you the next day.
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They got like a crown on their head
because they're wrestling one of the
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That's why I say Abdullah made Carlos
Colon.
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Abdullah made Tony and Mr. USA Adler.
Everybody that fought Abdullah became a
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big star.
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Here he is, the fake karate thrust to
the head of the Dirty Dutchman's
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tail.
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What really made Abdulla was a time in
Japan.
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In Japan, during that time, wrestling
was still about seven percent real.
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You got a karate kick in Japan doing a
real karate kick.
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You got chopped in Japan. It was a real
chop.
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The only thing that was fake in Japan
was who won and who lost.
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It was on the cover of all these
magazines. They have billboards of
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you know, pictures of Abdullah.
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He was what I call crazy over.
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Like, he was an iconic part of Japanese
culture.
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That's fine.
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Doesn't bother me at all.
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As crazy as this might sound, he
recorded an album in Japan.
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In the dress room.
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My name is Abdullah the Butcher. I want
to do all these crazy things to you. My
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whole family hates me because I'm too
vicious.
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They've never seen nothing like me.
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I was different.
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They only seen the wrestling.
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You know?
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That was it. I was different.
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Having found success with the hardcore
style he adapted from the chic, Abdullah
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becomes a mentor to wrestler Devin
Nicholson. But this long -term
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will end in disaster.
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I actually ended his career.
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Retired him in the ring, retired him out
of the ring.
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My name is Devin Nicholson, and my
wrestling name was Hannibal.
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Starting his career with Stampede
Wrestling
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in 2001, Devin begins working under the
name Madman Hannibal, and soon launches
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his own indie promotion, Great North
Wrestling. In 2006, he begins working
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Abdullah.
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Before all the negative stuff happened,
I actually considered him somewhat of a
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mentor.
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I would say he was the first wrestler to
take me under his wing a bit
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and teach me about how to get heat and
stuff.
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We ended up tag -teaming and wrestling
each other numerous times.
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I knew I used to work for him.
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Right, you guys were friends, weren't
you? Yeah, I used to fly into Toronto or
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whatever, and we had shows.
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You come out to Calgary, Alberta, we'd
have shows.
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You understand?
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Abdullah, you think I'm not ready for
you?
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I'm going to catch you in your last
match in Canada.
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There will be some people that will
always hate me for exposing him, but
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whatever. I don't care.
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I stopped him from wrestling.
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Already 68 years old and six decades
into his career, Abdullah returns to
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to wrestle Hannibal in what's being
billed as his retirement match.
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I remember my first experience of
Abdullah. My grandmother was actually
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of a wrestling fan, and I remember she
let me watch a wrestling movie called I
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Like to Hurt People.
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And I just remember thinking, how did
they make this blood effect?
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You didn't really know how they did
blood in those days.
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You'll probably have to edit this.
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And I know Bret Hart would put it in his
mouth, he said, but I was always afraid
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to do that.
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So then he would take the blade and put
it like there and tape over top.
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And then when it comes time to bleed,
he'd pull it out.
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And then, I'm not going to do it, I'm
not Abdullah, but he'd slice down like
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that.
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Now, for me to hit myself, I would hit
myself like this.
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You see it?
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I was around Abdullah a lot, and you
never actually see him do the deed.
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The blood would arrive as if, you know,
by magic.
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Abdullah had razor blades on all his
fingers.
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First, he'd cut you with the razor
blade.
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And what does he got? He's got a fork.
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And then he would take the fork and
scrape it across you to make it bigger
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could bleed more.
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He actually would stick that fork. He
would stick you with that fork, too.
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He's like stabbing you in the head with
that fork. It hurt like hell.
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That's Abdullah.
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Abdullah the butcher.
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He would cut you deep.
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Well, did anybody ever complain about
being cut?
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Not to Abdullah.
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Because, you see, in the older days, the
guys would tell you this.
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Suck it up.
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If you don't like it, you're in the
wrong business, kid. Suck it up.
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There was no bitching or complaining in
wrestling.
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I didn't carry a blade because I didn't
juice every night. But this was part of
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these guys' gimmick.
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Abdullah,
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Bruiser Brody, Dusty Road.
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Abdullah's blade every night. Every
night.
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It's kind of like Ric Flair got to have
the road.
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Well, Abdullah got to have the blade.
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Why do they call him Abdullah the
Butcher? What does the butcher do?
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They take to make blood.
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They try to hurt you, to torture you.
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This guy here, he was rushed to the
hospital and had four stitches in the
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of his head. This guy chopped him in the
damn head and got cut. Don't think that
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this is all phony blood.
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Abdullah's intense bloodlust and
unpredictable style keeps him from
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the world's largest promotion, Vince
McMahon's WWE.
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Vince kind of knew that Abdullah was
going to be very hard to be controlled.
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And I think that if you would even ask
Abdullah, I don't think he even trusted
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himself.
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Because I don't think a lot of times he
planned things.
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We were going to have a tag team match
in Ottawa. And before the match, we were
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appearing on a local television show
called Rogers Daytime.
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I just happen to have a fork right here.
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With the old, you know.
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Without this being plaid or anything.
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It's always a pleasure. Thank you.
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He put the male host in a headlock.
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Walked the male host over to where there
was going to be a cooking segment
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after.
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And then the guy started bleeding.
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It was the weirdest moment ever. The guy
was like, I just remember him shaking
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like that. He was like going to shock
almost. It was like a guy that obviously
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isn't used to bleeding or getting in
fights or anything.
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We'll be right back after this. I think
that was 2009.
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You couldn't even really get away with
it then. It was a miracle he did.
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But you could see how in the old days he
could get away with stuff like that.
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But I think in 2022 it would be hard to
assault a TV show host to get away with
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it. I think he was in his late 60s by
then too.
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So it certainly helped.
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After years on the independent circuit
and mentorship from Abdullah, Hannibal
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finally achieves his own opportunity to
wrestle for the WWE.
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When I was signed by WWE, he actually
screamed with joy.
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Because I guess since he never actually
wrestled for them, it was kind of like
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someone that kind of represented him in
a way was going to get in.
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But after a series of routine blood
tests, Hannibal received career
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news. In my blood test, they found that
the hepatitis C virus was present.
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And I was like...
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Well, first of all, I was confused on
how I would have such a thing. A lot of
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guys would use dirty razor blades.
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Because everybody didn't care about
blades. Everybody didn't care about
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They would say something like, Hey,
Abbie, you got a blade I could use?
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He's going to use the blade.
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And when you borrow something, you got
to do what?
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Give it back.
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And they would give it back to Abdullah.
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So it was very easy for him.
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Somebody to catch the disease, because
who knows where that blade came from or
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who they cut before they cut Hannibal.
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Did it cross your mind at that point
that it might have been Abdullah? Yes,
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because there was no other way that I
would have thought that I would have
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caught it. But I wasn't, like at this
point, I didn't think that I
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would have the evidence or anything.
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At some point, you and this guy Hannibal
were friendly with each other, right?
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Yeah, we were good friends. I used to
work for him. He was a promoter.
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Right. So I don't know what happened,
but I don't want to talk about this.
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I don't want to talk about it.
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His career cuts short by his hepatitis C
diagnosis.
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Hannibal is desperate for answers.
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I had a guy that was doing a documentary
on me. It was called This is Hannibal.
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We were hoping that it was going to be
my journey to WWE movie, but it ended up
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just being like a sad movie.
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Obviously, it didn't work out.
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The contrast got rescinded because I had
hepatitis C.
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So he was the one that actually saw the
cutting incident, and he showed me the
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clip from the 2007 match.
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And he's like, what is Abdullah doing
here?
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I haven't even seen footage of the
match, to be honest with you. I would
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see it.
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You can see here he's cutting his own
head with his razor blade that's taped
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his finger, right where all the scars
are on his forehead, what he's been
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for the past 50 years.
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And you see him doing that to my
forehead.
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So I'm like, he's blading me.
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Oh, my God. Eight years managing him in
different countries, I never saw
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him doing that to another guy. And if
that's the case,
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wow. Many local news stations saw my
movie and did their own stories on it
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because Ottawa, I don't think, ever had
somebody that had made WWE.
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Ronald Tazza.
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One of the top lawyers in this area saw
the case, and with his skill as
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a lawyer, he was able to basically force
Abdullah to provide his blood test.
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According to his blood work, there's a
history of Hep C, so you would think
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he knew, but whether he knew or not, he
should have known it's dangerous to cut
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someone with a razor blade with blood on
it.
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The footage of Abdullah cutting Hannibal
with a used razor blade and the results
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of Abdullah's blood test form the basis
of a lawsuit filed by Hannibal.
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A lawsuit that Abdullah claims he
couldn't read or understand.
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I was getting a lot of letters, right?
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What am I going to do? Open it up?
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I don't know what the hell it says.
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If it wasn't for Malika, no.
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I'd really be in bad shape.
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And he said, sat me down. He said, sit
down, Malika. But he told me he didn't
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know how to read and write, and he cried
like a baby.
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A big, huge man, like this, crying.
441
00:30:02,660 --> 00:30:05,460
I'd never seen a man cry like that.
442
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,760
That's when I understood.
443
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:16,120
What was going on in his life. And he
would ask me to open his mail and read
444
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:22,760
to him. And after I looked through it,
it included the court case with Devon
445
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,920
Nicholson. I don't know anything about
that.
446
00:30:26,260 --> 00:30:31,940
My sister called me and said, you lost
the case in
447
00:30:31,940 --> 00:30:35,800
Toronto. I said, what?
448
00:30:38,660 --> 00:30:40,320
It was default.
449
00:30:41,380 --> 00:30:43,940
That's what, because I didn't show up.
450
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,160
And that was it.
451
00:30:46,060 --> 00:30:51,040
When you aspire to be a professional
wrestler, this is how you celebrate a
452
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,840
victory. He ended up losing in court in
both Ontario and Georgia.
453
00:30:56,980 --> 00:31:00,460
And he was found guilty of negligence,
assault, and battery.
454
00:31:00,780 --> 00:31:03,680
He either knew or should have known.
455
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,820
that he had Hep C, which Abdullah still
denies, even though he provided the
456
00:31:08,820 --> 00:31:09,820
blood tests.
457
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,980
Court documents show that Abdullah
carries the same rare strain of
458
00:31:15,980 --> 00:31:16,859
as Hannibal.
459
00:31:16,860 --> 00:31:21,620
In the years that follow, Abdullah makes
a range of claims, including the
460
00:31:21,620 --> 00:31:24,720
allegation that it was Hannibal who gave
the disease to him.
461
00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:29,780
After the Canadian judge sees the video
evidence, coupled with the confirmation
462
00:31:29,780 --> 00:31:34,530
that both men share the same rare strain
of Hep C, The courts side with
463
00:31:34,530 --> 00:31:40,670
Hannibal. It's very good to have that on
the record after all these years of
464
00:31:40,670 --> 00:31:41,670
being called a liar.
465
00:31:41,830 --> 00:31:45,610
Devin Nicholson was awarded $2 .3
million in damages.
466
00:31:46,270 --> 00:31:49,690
No, I don't think it's your pay. No, not
that much.
467
00:31:50,270 --> 00:31:51,410
What should he have gotten?
468
00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:53,310
Nothing.
469
00:31:54,550 --> 00:31:55,890
I wouldn't have sued him.
470
00:31:56,570 --> 00:32:00,330
When you get into a certain profession,
you know, you're taking the risk.
471
00:32:02,250 --> 00:32:03,590
Hannibal could have done it himself.
472
00:32:05,370 --> 00:32:06,850
That's what the guys told me.
473
00:32:07,070 --> 00:32:09,350
Tony, he don't change his blade.
474
00:32:09,690 --> 00:32:10,850
Do it yourself.
475
00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:13,330
He let that dude cut him.
476
00:32:14,030 --> 00:32:17,490
He could have cut himself, but he was
scared to cut himself, so he got
477
00:32:17,490 --> 00:32:18,490
else do it.
478
00:32:18,990 --> 00:32:20,030
And it cost him.
479
00:32:27,330 --> 00:32:31,880
In dire financial straits, Abdullah
continues to make wrestling -related
480
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,260
appearances and autograph signings.
481
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,980
Hannibal claims that Abdullah has moved
around his assets in order to avoid
482
00:32:39,980 --> 00:32:44,220
paying him, and to this day, the matter
is still in front of the courts.
483
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,220
He's never paid anything.
484
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:47,660
Hasn't paid a penny.
485
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:52,560
Nah. I don't think he has.
486
00:32:53,340 --> 00:32:55,240
I want you all to look at this.
487
00:32:56,630 --> 00:33:00,070
This is dangerous, the stuff that you
have ever seen.
488
00:33:01,050 --> 00:33:02,050
Look at this.
489
00:33:03,310 --> 00:33:06,810
Oh, boy. He has no money to repair none
of this.
490
00:33:07,030 --> 00:33:14,030
Now, this is a light fixture where the
water is coming down. This is
491
00:33:14,030 --> 00:33:15,030
electrical.
492
00:33:15,490 --> 00:33:16,490
Listen.
493
00:33:16,850 --> 00:33:21,530
This is how his house is right now,
currently. Right now, currently. That's
494
00:33:21,530 --> 00:33:23,410
I didn't allow you all to come back
there.
495
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:28,560
Oh, I am stressed.
496
00:33:29,500 --> 00:33:30,500
I'm stressed.
497
00:33:30,860 --> 00:33:35,600
I've never had blood pressure until I
got moved into this house.
498
00:33:37,300 --> 00:33:41,920
But it's worth it when you see someone
being taken advantage of.
499
00:33:42,220 --> 00:33:43,560
He built a career.
500
00:33:44,860 --> 00:33:46,340
I should have went to school.
501
00:33:46,820 --> 00:33:52,460
I should have went to school to learn
how to read and write.
502
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,360
I studied.
503
00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:01,600
But I needed more than that.
504
00:34:03,260 --> 00:34:04,400
I got shafted.
505
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:12,520
All the tapes, what I made for many,
many years, got nothing.
506
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,540
Whatever he's going through, whatever
he's going through, that was all his
507
00:34:17,540 --> 00:34:18,540
anyways.
508
00:34:19,340 --> 00:34:22,760
I don't want to say too much. I just
tell the absolute truth. My brother...
509
00:34:23,210 --> 00:34:28,650
Don't worry, my brother, he's a very
nice person, but people play games with
510
00:34:28,650 --> 00:34:32,710
him. Are you aware that he says that he
can't read or write? Did he ever tell
511
00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:38,409
you that he can't read or write? No, and
I've seen him order at restaurants,
512
00:34:38,510 --> 00:34:39,510
reading menus.
513
00:34:40,170 --> 00:34:45,030
I've seen letters from him. I've seen
him sign autographs. He's owned several
514
00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:49,810
businesses over the years and been
involved with large wrestling contracts
515
00:34:49,810 --> 00:34:50,969
companies like...
516
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,520
WCW and Japanese companies.
517
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,520
So he can't read or write?
518
00:34:57,100 --> 00:35:03,360
No. Nope, he never could. But he'd find
ways, like, if they told him, like, to
519
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:10,160
go to a chicken farm or something like
that, he'd draw a
520
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,160
picture of a chicken.
521
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,080
I don't mean this to be humorous, but,
like, he knew how to read a menu.
522
00:35:17,690 --> 00:35:22,070
You know, like we would eat out three
times a day. He never had an issue.
523
00:35:22,610 --> 00:35:27,070
I don't know if that's the case. If it
is, I think it's just an
524
00:35:27,070 --> 00:35:33,990
accolade for him to be that successful
around the world without
525
00:35:33,990 --> 00:35:37,210
that ability. But I don't know. I've
only recently heard that.
526
00:35:38,170 --> 00:35:43,270
That's like a shock to me because he
made great business.
527
00:35:45,260 --> 00:35:48,400
Even in a check, in a check, you have to
write it.
528
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:55,140
I did not know that. And eight years, we
traveled a lot, spent a lot of time
529
00:35:55,140 --> 00:36:00,520
together, and that is a shock to me. If
that is a guy of a second -grade
530
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:07,440
education, wow, that whoever was the
teacher, we've got to
531
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,300
find him or her and honor that person
because that teacher did a lot.
532
00:36:12,830 --> 00:36:17,530
Abdul the Butcher himself getting
stitched up right here. The punishing
533
00:36:17,530 --> 00:36:22,250
hardcore wrestling has a long legacy,
but it often comes at great personal
534
00:36:22,250 --> 00:36:23,250
for those involved.
535
00:36:23,890 --> 00:36:28,590
Abdul and Carlos Colon invented a match
with a chain going right across the ring
536
00:36:28,590 --> 00:36:34,250
and they were hooked to it. And even
with the rain, a storm, you could still
537
00:36:34,250 --> 00:36:41,110
just all the blood coming down. It was
horrendous, but for the fans, it was
538
00:36:41,110 --> 00:36:45,460
just... devastating the punishment that
they inflicted on each other.
539
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,020
We felt invincible.
540
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,660
And they trained you to feel invincible.
541
00:36:52,140 --> 00:36:56,120
At those times, we would put the blood
of their opponent as part of being a
542
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,420
and suck the blood out of your
opponent's head.
543
00:37:00,340 --> 00:37:06,180
When I talk about it right now, I see
the expressions on the young, the new
544
00:37:06,180 --> 00:37:09,800
generation, like, what the heck were you
guys thinking?
545
00:37:10,410 --> 00:37:13,910
But, you know, back then, it was a whole
different world.
546
00:37:16,890 --> 00:37:23,090
Anytime you watch something, even if you
watch a movie picture or something like
547
00:37:23,090 --> 00:37:25,330
that, they always have violence in it,
right?
548
00:37:25,930 --> 00:37:28,890
You have the cops and the robbers, you
have this and stuff like that.
549
00:37:29,250 --> 00:37:30,730
It's always violence.
550
00:37:31,170 --> 00:37:35,350
And if you don't give the people
violence, they don't come and see you.
551
00:37:35,970 --> 00:37:37,890
In a twist of fate in 2021,
552
00:37:38,860 --> 00:37:43,160
Seven years after his own court battle,
Hannibal finds himself at the center of
553
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,200
his own controversy by brutalizing a
referee.
554
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:51,500
They were looking for someone to bleed
from the spike, so the promoter found
555
00:37:51,500 --> 00:37:56,900
this referee that was a known bleeder to
take the spike.
556
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:04,260
It hit him several times, and it did
some damage.
557
00:38:08,810 --> 00:38:11,490
Did not have any medics on site.
558
00:38:12,650 --> 00:38:15,710
It went on longer than it should have.
559
00:38:16,070 --> 00:38:18,710
Like, it was bad communication all
around.
560
00:38:18,970 --> 00:38:23,490
Guy, the referee, he ended up getting an
infection. His head was, I mean,
561
00:38:23,490 --> 00:38:26,410
mutilated. I was appalled.
562
00:38:26,630 --> 00:38:30,790
I saw the dude's head with, you know, a
dozen different gaffes with staples in
563
00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:33,490
his head. And I'm just like, what in the
heck happened here?
564
00:38:34,170 --> 00:38:37,770
Why have charges not been pressed? Why
is this guy not in jail?
565
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:45,280
Even your story is saying you are
recklessly, dangerously careless and
566
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,220
damn near killed this guy because you're
just sloppy.
567
00:38:48,460 --> 00:38:52,520
And if we believe that he got mad and
actually attacked this guy with a spike,
568
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,740
it's like you should be in jail.
569
00:38:55,260 --> 00:38:57,240
You should never be booked to wrestle
again.
570
00:38:57,460 --> 00:39:01,260
This is not good for the business. This
is 1960 where we're going to convince
571
00:39:01,260 --> 00:39:04,760
somebody that he's the madman from the
Sudan that attacked somebody with a
572
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:05,760
spike.
573
00:39:06,510 --> 00:39:08,690
There's no place for that in the
industry anymore.
574
00:39:09,130 --> 00:39:15,510
Oh, my God. That even makes no sense. I
mean, you just were in a situation
575
00:39:15,510 --> 00:39:22,370
and, wow, strange things do happen
because what are the chances that you
576
00:39:22,370 --> 00:39:27,450
a court case and now you're going to do
that to a referee?
577
00:39:28,930 --> 00:39:29,930
Crazy.
578
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:40,730
To this day, Abdullah's legal problems
haunt him, and the Hepatitis C
579
00:39:40,730 --> 00:39:44,810
controversy has tainted the legacy of
his legendary career.
580
00:39:45,250 --> 00:39:51,430
I know it was horrendous to hear,
because you never want to hear that
581
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:55,330
somebody did this to another guy.
582
00:39:56,730 --> 00:40:01,350
But then you also wonder, because in my
case, I was around him in bloody
583
00:40:01,350 --> 00:40:03,030
matches, you know.
584
00:40:04,170 --> 00:40:06,210
Carlos Colon and other guys.
585
00:40:06,510 --> 00:40:12,410
But none of us tested, you know,
positive to that.
586
00:40:13,230 --> 00:40:17,170
Hannibal eventually finds an
experimental treatment that cures him of
587
00:40:17,170 --> 00:40:19,570
hepatitis C, but his bitterness remains.
588
00:40:20,410 --> 00:40:22,950
Is there anything that he can do to make
this right?
589
00:40:23,590 --> 00:40:24,590
Yes.
590
00:40:25,530 --> 00:40:30,830
I mean, start paying what you can.
591
00:40:31,550 --> 00:40:37,510
and take some responsibility for what
you did. You've been found guilty in
592
00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:40,610
Canada and the U .S., but you never
apologized for anything.
593
00:40:41,650 --> 00:40:46,330
And, yeah, it's just been a nightmare
situation, but I would never expect that
594
00:40:46,330 --> 00:40:47,330
from him.
595
00:40:47,590 --> 00:40:53,950
So all I can do is move on, which I have
been doing. I'll be honest, talking
596
00:40:53,950 --> 00:41:00,470
about this situation, I mean, this is
hopefully the last time I'll have to
597
00:41:00,470 --> 00:41:01,470
about it.
598
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,840
It was a terrible period of my life, and
I'm over it.
599
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:13,500
Because the lawsuit is argued in a civil
trial, the judge found Abdul the
600
00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:18,120
Butcher liable, but not guilty, of
causing Hannibal's hepatitis C.
601
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,740
This is the Hall of Fame, and all these
rascals here, these are the old ones,
602
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:24,920
they're probably all dead now.
603
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,740
They're all in the Hall of Fame with
Abdul the Butcher.
604
00:41:28,330 --> 00:41:32,650
Well, I put it this way. All my family
is his biggest fan. He's done good.
605
00:41:33,350 --> 00:41:37,170
And I hate to say this. There's a lot of
good wrestlers. I put it this way. He's
606
00:41:37,170 --> 00:41:38,170
one of the best.
607
00:41:40,170 --> 00:41:44,050
In a round, our next inductee always
made me a little nervous.
608
00:41:44,930 --> 00:41:49,010
This is the man who took hardcore to
another level.
609
00:41:49,550 --> 00:41:50,550
Take a look.
610
00:41:52,050 --> 00:41:56,790
In 2011, Abdul the Butcher is inducted
into the WWE's Hall of Fame.
611
00:41:58,060 --> 00:42:01,200
When I found out I was going to be in
the Hall of Fame, I said, I don't
612
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,480
it until they book me there.
613
00:42:04,220 --> 00:42:10,680
And Terry Funk was the one who put me
over strong, said nice things about me.
614
00:42:11,260 --> 00:42:17,040
He said, whatever people say about
Abdullah the Butcher, he made these
615
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,040
a lot of money.
616
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:24,460
I cried because I know the story that to
be what he
617
00:42:24,460 --> 00:42:26,420
became,
618
00:42:27,180 --> 00:42:33,900
He paid the price, and yes, he made the
money, but it
619
00:42:33,900 --> 00:42:36,440
wasn't easy being Abdullah the Butcher.
620
00:42:36,940 --> 00:42:43,000
What's missing in wrestling today is the
idea that someone, an opponent, is
621
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,280
fighting for something bigger than a
title or a victory. They're fighting for
622
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,058
their lives.
623
00:42:47,060 --> 00:42:50,960
That's what he brought to the table, and
I don't know if anyone ever did it
624
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,260
better than Abdullah the Butcher.
625
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,220
I've never seen anybody that the fan was
actually afraid of.
626
00:42:57,310 --> 00:42:58,730
They was afraid of him.
627
00:42:58,990 --> 00:43:01,610
And I never saw that with anybody.
628
00:43:01,950 --> 00:43:05,370
I think he should be remembered for his
greatness.
629
00:43:06,850 --> 00:43:10,810
His greatness because he is the god of
wrestling.
630
00:43:11,890 --> 00:43:16,570
Not the negative, you know, just one
little situation.
631
00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:19,810
And it's not proven.
632
00:43:22,510 --> 00:43:24,090
He didn't get a chance to.
633
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,900
Prove his innocence.
634
00:43:29,220 --> 00:43:32,980
I don't care if they take everything he
owns.
635
00:43:33,420 --> 00:43:39,240
I would never turn my back on a man of
greatness, such greatness.
636
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,700
He's going to be okay with the help of
God.
637
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,440
Long after you're gone, what would you
like people to think when they hear the
638
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:48,480
name Abdullah the Butcher?
639
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,960
Just to give me the respect for what
I've done.
640
00:43:55,020 --> 00:43:57,600
A lot of things people say I've done, I
did not do.
641
00:43:58,860 --> 00:43:59,860
You know what I mean?
642
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:00,920
That's all I can say.
643
00:44:02,220 --> 00:44:04,760
Whatever you want to think, I'll leave
it up to you.
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