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In my opinion is, Jump Yard Dog was the
most prominent black wrestler to ever
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lace a pair of boots.
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Overcoming incredible odds, a young
black wrestler rose from humble
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to become a generational superstar,
achieving unimaginable heights in a
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dominated by white performers.
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Yes, he did. He paid the way for all of
us. You feel you're going to be wearing
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the crown?
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Just as sure as I'm black in a day's
sun, I mean, Jane.
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His charisma and, you know, his
personality is what got him to where he
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because he was a fan favorite no matter
how you looked at it.
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JYD was on top, selling it out. I mean,
it was incredible.
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If you guys could just hear the crowd,
they'd just love it. And it couldn't
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nobody stop it. He's invincible.
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It ain't nothing else I like to do or
know better. And that's fire.
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I've seen the stars for it because at
that time there were no black
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Bill Watts.
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He saw dollars.
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I saw his charisma. I named him, gave
him his music, and did everything, and
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was so dynamite.
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The unlikely friendship between promoter
Cowboy Bill Watts and the Junkyard Dog
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was tested when the Dog defects to the
WWF.
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I think Dog went because there was a
better opportunity. You know, there's
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money, and then he was going to be a big
star there.
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But JYD's dreams of achieving superstar
status in the big leagues fell short.
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Vince McMahon didn't use him like Bill
did. I wish he had because he could have
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been one of the biggest stars in the
WWE.
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Yeah, it broke his spirit because he
went there to be that big hero again,
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he didn't get it.
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How can Vince McMahon put everything on
JYD?
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Because you don't know if he's going to
show up or not. You're not dependable.
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Untrustworthy. Dog forgot one thing. You
can't do what the white man do and keep
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your job.
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When you're trying to become a star and
on your way to stardom, you can fail at
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a lot of things, but to be successful as
a wrestler, you have to put the time
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in. You have to become known by the
fans.
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You have to be able to sell your
product.
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You have to be able to have some
dialogue.
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When Junkyard Dog came to Mid -South, he
had dialogue, he had style, he had
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physical attributes.
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And these things turn into box office.
These things turn into money.
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Sylvester Ritter was probably the
greatest star to come through the state
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Louisiana that they ever had in terms of
wrestling.
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He represents the people. They all love
him.
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Dog had a great following. He was
universally loved.
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The gleam in his eyes, the little smile
that he had.
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was infectious.
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Man, he just got over it. The people in
Louisiana loved him.
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He'd get to the ring, you know, and he'd
grab that top rope and lean back and
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shake his legs and his butt, and the
people would just go, wow. I'm lacing up
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the boots, and the whole building's
going, who that?
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Who that? Who that going to beat the
dog? Who that? Boom, boom, boom. Who
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I'm lacing up my boots going, holy
smokes.
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More than just a wrestler, Junkyard Dog
is a hero to the working class, a
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beloved figure in the city of New
Orleans who became a superstar to fans
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the Southeast, transcending the sport to
become an icon.
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A Junkyard Dog, bro. Nobody messes with
a damn Junkyard Dog.
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I'm James Snake Roberts, Hall of Famer,
and I can still kick your butt.
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Mid -South!
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I am tired of you ripping me off and
playing your stinking games with me.
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New Orleans was his town, man.
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And my God, if you were wrestling him,
brother, you were scared to death.
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Because you didn't know if you were
going to make it out of that ring and
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to the dressing room.
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Police usually had to carry the guys
out, the wrestle dog.
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Because if you parked your car in that
parking lot, they would destroy it.
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Who the heck going to beat that dog?
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Nobody. That's who.
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Before becoming one of the most popular
wrestlers the South had ever seen, the
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Junkyard Dog was a rookie named Big
Daddy Ritter, searching for his big
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Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
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Well, Dog tried to get into wrestling
several times, but they're all short
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deals. He wasn't on everybody's much
-wanted list because then, A, he was
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and a lot of the white promoters, and
they're all white, had a quota,
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unwritten, unstated, but it was there.
And so if he didn't fit their quota...
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They already had a black baby face.
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I ain't going to hire another one.
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That's sad to say. It's coarse. It's
hurtful.
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I am Jim Ross.
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Been in wrestling since 1974.
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And along the way, I got to meet the
Junkyard Dog and become friends.
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It's great to have you back, Junkyard
Dog.
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J .Y .D., when I first met him, it
seemed like he was always smiling.
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And his skill set was limited.
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My God, the charisma and the love that
he created for the fan base.
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But you can't coach charisma.
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You either got it or you don't.
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Despite Ritter's charisma and size, only
Bill Watt, the owner and promoter of
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Mid -South Wrestling, decides to take a
chance on the young brawler.
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Cowboy was bigger than life.
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He was a disciplinarian. He was kind of
like the head coach.
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You know, I never met Vince Lombardi,
the famed football coach, the Packers,
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that won multiple Super Bowls. But some
of my older peers said that Watt was
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Vince Lombardi -like.
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My way or the highway.
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Here are the rules.
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There are not many of them. I expect
you...
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to adhere to them, and there's no
negotiation.
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Bill Watts gave him the biggest break
for a black man.
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Oh, let me turn this off.
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Hey, this is the Birdman Coco Beware.
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Man, you know me flying all over the
place in the wrestling business.
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The Birdman Coco Beware!
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I mean, wrestling is a white man's
sport.
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He wasn't a wrestler at all. He couldn't
put you in a leg lock or a chicken
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wing. He don't know nothing about all
that. He was a street fighter.
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Bill Watts gave him a chance to draw
some money. And you know what? He busts
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Louisiana wide open.
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Mid -South sports was based on realism.
So athleticism, realism, making it more
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easy to suspend your disbelief of the
art form that is pro wrestling.
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Watts had a rule. You should go to a
bar.
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Or you get in any kind of scuffle and
you get your ass whipped, you're fired.
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The booker for Cowboy Bill Watts is
Ernie Ladd.
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Ernie Ladd was a philosopher.
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He was 6 '9 and 300 pounds.
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So Ernie was always looking for talent.
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Somebody along the way told Ernie, hey,
there's this black guy, big muscular
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powerhouse, kind of guy you'd like,
Ernie, that you ought to take a look at.
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So Ernie brought Dog in and he had a
rough start because Cowboy didn't know
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Dog was not a great technical.
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He brought that big, fine, black
specimen of a body down that aisle.
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A young gal started screaming and
hollering, and we would excite the
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He was so statuesque, and he looked
great. Turn your head, you wouldn't
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him. Dahl just clicked with the rest of
the fans, so he knew how to connect with
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the audience.
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This is Mr. USA, WWE Hall of Famer, Tony
Atlas.
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So all you boys in the Mid -South, get
ready for yourself because I got trouble
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here and I got trouble there and I got
trouble coming your way to the Mid
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-South. We gonna boogie, baby.
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So I have to give credit for this to
cowboy Bill Watts.
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Bill Watts came up with ideas.
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Dog was a hell of a football player.
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He was a hell of a street fighter. He
was a brawler. So what Bill Watts did
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create matches that fit Dog's style.
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Bill wanted Dog to do a few things
really well.
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Clotheslines, thumps, body slams,
tackles. And so those things, based on
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football background, those things can be
translated very easily into pro
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wrestling. Ooh, power slam!
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To boost Junkyard Dog's star power, Bill
Watts and Ernie Ladd know they need to
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find the perfect villain for JYD to face
in the ring.
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Wait a minute!
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What's he doing?
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There's nothing that he couldn't do in
the ring, you know, if he was in the
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with the right guy.
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I am Ted DiBiase.
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Towards the end of my career, I was
known in the WWE as the Million Dollar
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And
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the
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thing that I did was I always
highlighted in the ring what he did
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I mean, Bill Watts coached me. The Funks
coached me.
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They would say, Teddy, you've got to
basically put him in the middle of the
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and work around him and emphasize or
highlight the things that you know he
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very well and stay away from the things
that he doesn't do so well. He had
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enough trust in me to know that I wasn't
going to make him look bad out there. I
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was always going to make him look good.
The dog did something, and there's the
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count.
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Well, you talk about an action -packed
duo. They are.
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We became friends. We traveled together
a lot, and so much so that when we got
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married, J .Y .D. was my best man.
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That's how close we were.
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Put that change around his neck, put
that music on, another one bite the
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and he came back in there with a thump.
The rest of it is history.
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There he goes with that big thump. He
just put him about six feet under.
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Bill Watts is the first wrestling owner,
promoter, whoever featured as
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one of his very top stars, a black guy.
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This last year has kind of been the year
of the dog. I don't know if it's the
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Chinese year of the dog or not, but in
Mid -South wrestling, it was the year of
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the dog. Bill Watts took JYB and made
him the star.
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like this is because you're doing so
many good things.
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They had a very, very close
relationship.
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Anything that Dog needed or wanted or
disliked, he would never talk to the
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wrestlers about it. He would only talk
to Bill Watts.
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I don't think anyone in the business did
more for an individual than Bill Watts
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as he looked at mentoring and helping
Dog.
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Bill looked at him like he was family.
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You always go out and give 100 % for the
people and for yourself.
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A lot of people were astounded that
Cowboy was so friendly with a black
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And Cowboy said, I want you to know one
thing. He said, my favorite color is
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green. And at that time, JYD was selling
tickets, lots of them.
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Junkyard Dog's captivating presence
draws capacity crowds night after night,
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inspiring his fans that thought that
nothing to defend their hero. The fans
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only looked up to him, they worshipped
him.
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I'm Jim Cornette. I've been involved in
a variety of ways in professional
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wrestling over the last 40 -something
years.
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Because that's all you are is a yellow
dog -faced liar.
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You know what he just did? He just wrote
a check that his rear end won't be able
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to... The downtown municipal auditorium
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was the dog's house every Monday night.
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And the Freebirds come in, and they want
to take over.
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The Freebirds had hair cream.
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that could remove your hair. And they
said they were going to use it to take
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hair away from one of their opponents.
But when Junkyard Dog came in and tried
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to do something about it, accidentally,
according to the Freebirds, the cream
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wound up in his eyes.
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Hey, this is supposed to be a solution
to remove hair.
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The agony he's in.
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My God, that moment right there.
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Freebirds were dead men.
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When the word got out that J .Y .D. had
been blinded by the free birds, and then
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when J .Y .D. went on television and
said, my daughter, my baby daughter is
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about to be born, and I'll be able to
hold her, but I'll never be able to see
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her. The people wanted to kill the free
birds, literally.
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As the highly anticipated dog collar
match with J .Y .D. against free bird
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Michael Hayes approaches.
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Dog plays his part at ringside until one
fateful night when the line between
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fiction and reality really blurs.
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J .Y .D. himself told me this story.
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Others have disputed it.
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But it sounds very typical of New
Orleans and the wrestling scene at that
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They're in the downtown municipal
auditorium.
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And Dog is sitting at ringside. He's
blind, but he's in the corner. The free
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birds look around and they see Dog
sitting in the corner. And all of a
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some guy comes over the railing and is
right there at Dog's shoulder. And the
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guy pulls out the biggest gun he's ever
seen and said, don't worry, Dog, I got
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him.
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And for two seconds, Dog is conflicted.
Do I grab this guy's gun and save their
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lives, but expose that I can see?
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Or do I sit here and let him shoot him?
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And while he was conflicted, the cops
came over the rail and grabbed the guy
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took him down.
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In our little world down there in the
Mid -South, he became bigger than life.
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Sometimes you wonder when success comes
somebody's way, is it truly a blessing
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or a curse?
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Race, color, and creed. He's everybody's
champion.
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Under the guidance of legendary promoter
Bill Watts, the Junkyard Dog has
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emerged as a main event superstar in Mid
-South, drawing record -breaking crowds
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for the company.
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He was the black Hulk Hogan down there.
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Louisiana, Oklahoma, Arkansas.
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I mean, he had all those towns just sold
up.
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Let me tell you something, Buzzard, it
ain't but one dog.
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Well, there wasn't many black wrestling
stars when I broke into business.
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I'm WWE Hall of Famer Teddy Long.
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You will go one -on -one with The
Undertaker!
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God was a big draw. He had that
charisma, so he brought the blacks out,
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he brought the whites out. There were
whites that loved JYD, too. So Bill
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knew that was money, okay? So that's why
he pushed off.
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Oh, the crowd said, who that? Who that?
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Who that? Who that? Who that?
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Who's that going to be, that junkyard
dog? Who's that?
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You know, in Mid -South, we stop at a
restaurant, we stop at a gas station,
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people recognize us where we went.
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We get a lot of letters at Mid -South
asking that the dog and the different
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stars can drop by and visit them. I know
we got a nice letter from a
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kindergarten teacher in LeCompte.
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Well, the junkyard dog found time, and
when word got out in that town, they had
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Junkyard Dog Day, and I'll tell you, it
was great.
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After he got his, he wanted to reach
back.
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help others. He got more pleasure out of
helping you. Talk to the kids, give
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them money.
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Very generous, not just with his money,
but with his time.
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You know, you get fame and stuff, I get
very well known, and I forget about the
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way that I grew up, and lots of them I
like to go back to school and visit.
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Long before the bright lights and
roaring crowds, Sylvester Ritter, the
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behind the junkyard dog, grew up in a
small North Carolina town.
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What a lot of people don't understand or
don't know about it is, it's a true
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rags to riches story for him.
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My name is Jarvis Woodburn. I'm the
nephew of the Junkyard Dog.
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I called him Uncle Dog. That's what he
was to me.
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This was the, God, this is the old, old
one, I believe.
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Yeah. He grew up without a dad. My great
-grandmother, which is his grandmother,
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is the one that raised him and my mom.
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True Southern upbringing, family first,
treat all people equally, and that's
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just the kind of person that he was.
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This is the home where Sylvester grew
up, him a mom, my grandmother.
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great -grandmother, great -great
-grandmother.
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It was old school. Wake up in the middle
of the night, got to go to the
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bathroom, got to do number one, you're
going in the bucket.
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Got to do number two, you hold it,
you're coming outside and using that
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There you go.
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There's the source of heat right there.
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And this was kind of like the living
room area.
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This was the bedroom here, so it's very
cramped.
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I mean, I remember when I was growing
up, there was actually two beds in here.
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There's that wall with all of the, like,
photos and stuff.
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There's actually a real, real young
picture of him over there.
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If these walls could talk.
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But I grew up just like everybody else
with nothing.
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I grew up hard back down in South North
Carolina.
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But I fought, and I'm still fighting,
trying to bail on myself.
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I saw him one time to give a fan.
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He took the dog chain off his neck and
gave it to a kid with a family there.
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And they just loved it.
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He still stayed humble. You know, he
wasn't a guy that you couldn't talk to.
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never changed.
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He never changed. He was the same guy
each and every day.
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Though fame didn't change the junkyard
dog, life on the road and the days and
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weeks away from home begin to take their
toll.
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He would always try to come home around,
especially the holidays when my mom
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cooks. But then after that, it's just
kind of like just hanging out with the
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family for as long as they can before
they got to get back on the road.
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He had a daughter, Latoya. His daughter
was with us since she was two going on
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three years old. He loved her to death.
She loved him. She was definitely a
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daddy's girl. He was a great father.
He's just on the road all the time.
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Being on the road all the time is, well,
I mean, it can take a toll.
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It taxes on your body. It taxes on your
mind. It taxes mostly on your
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relationships with your children, with
your wife, with your family.
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You know, an average week was 1 ,500, 2
,000 miles a week. So you're in a car a
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lot, and you're with your family a lot,
and sometimes a big old fat joint was
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your solace.
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Of course, for a dog, it just created
more of an appetite.
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We both were experimenting with drugs at
the time.
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I remember J .Y. showing me a jar that
he had over 1 ,000 hits of speed in it,
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you know. And, of course, when he came
south, it came with him.
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Yeah, he was already into the speed and
into the downers and sleeping pills.
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I hadn't gotten into that yet, but I was
soon to start.
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There was a couple times on the road
with him, he would always keep his pinky
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nailed a little bit longer.
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I'll look over and see him, and he was
just about to do it, and he looked over
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at me and he goes, if I ever see you
doing this, I'll kill you.
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All right.
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Ain't going to tell me twice.
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Kind of like rock and roll. I mean, I
didn't know wrestlers had groupies.
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Found that out.
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It's kind of like you see on TV with
these rock stars.
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It was just like anywhere they went.
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restaurants, bars.
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When you got fame like this, you said,
you can actually make money. I said,
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are you talking about? He said, I'm not
going to sleep with them for free.
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I mean, some of these tickets would pay.
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So I started hanging out with Dahl
because I got free beer, free food, and
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laid.
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And they paid for it.
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We was... In Little Rock, Arkansas.
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And I was low on money because at that
time, unfortunately, I was involved with
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drugs. And Dog said, I'll get you some
money.
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I said, okay.
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He said, I got some girls coming. I
said, oh, thank you.
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The door opened and these three girls
came in. And each one of them gave Dog
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$100 a piece to get laid by the
wrestlers.
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So anyway, Dog said, he don't do no
screwing. He like your feet. So he going
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play with your feet. You like to play
with your feet. That's all.
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I'm playing with the girl's feet.
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Dog getting ready to do the girl, and
then we hear another knock at the door.
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He thought it was one of the wrestlers.
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It was the girl's husband.
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You know, he wanted to fight Dog, so he
did. It didn't last long.
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Dog beat the hell out of him. The girl
stayed.
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The dog was one of the highest paid guys
in pro wrestling at that time. He never
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made under a grand a week. I think he
probably averaged more than like $2 ,000
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or $3 ,000 a week. And in a territory
that size, that was pretty
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Bill, he did nice things for him,
including a car.
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And when he pulled up to an arena, he
got noted in a positive way.
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As one of the biggest draws in the
territory, the Junkyard Dog catches the
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of WWF promoter Vince McMahon.
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In the summer of 1984,
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McMahon makes JYD an offer that's more
than double what he's paid under Bill
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Watts. Vince McMahon was starting the
national expansion that he started in
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1984, and Vince was trying to suck up
all the talent.
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Unfortunately, the thing happened that I
never believed would happen, and that
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was Dog walked out.
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He walked out on his professional
savior, and he went to WWF for the cash.
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How does Bill Watts feel when JYD
leaves?
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I'd love to have seen him when he got
that phone call.
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A lucrative offer from the WWF proves
too strong for the junkyard dog to
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as he suddenly departs Mid -South,
sending shockwaves through the territory
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leaving promoter Bill Watts stunned.
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The big topic of conversation is the
junkyard dog and what's happened to him.
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And we don't really know. We do know
that he's left the Mid -South area. When
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Dog left Mid -South, it broke Watts'
heart.
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Because he had never been as kind and as
giving to anybody in his career.
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Bill went on television.
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Had a little verbal tirade directed at
Dog.
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I wanted to comment one minute on the
Junkyard Dog because I watched him come
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Mid -South as a youngster, and a lot of
people watched him grow to become truly
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a superstar.
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But then J .Y .D. walked out, not only
on Mid -South, which really hurt me
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personally because I considered him a
great friend, he walked out on all the
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fans. I mean, to see a white man cry
over a black man back in the day.
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I saw tears come out of Bill Watts'
eyes. That just hurt him bad because
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Watts did everything he could to keep
him there. And it just looked like
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overnight he was gone.
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But in the aftermath of his departure,
rumors circulate that his sudden exit
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from the company is motivated by factors
beyond money.
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Dog told me this story, the way he went
to the WWF.
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Dog was in the bathroom, and he was in
the stall.
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Bill Watts and Grizzly Smith, they came
in the bathroom, and they didn't know
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Dog was in the stall.
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Grizzly Smith went to tell Bill Watts,
he says, well, I think we're going to
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lose Sylvester.
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I hear he's going to the WWF. He's going
to New York. The next thing Bill Watts
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said to Grizzly Smith, he said, ah,
don't worry about it. That nigger ain't
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going nowhere.
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Dog heard that.
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And so that's when he made up his mind
to leave and go to Benson.
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After the Junkyard Dog leaves Mid -South
in the summer of 1984, Bill Watts
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begins a search for his replacement.
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Brother, it scared him to death that his
territory was going to just collapse.
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So desperate that immediately he tried
to slide in another black superstar.
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Bill made, I think, a mistake in a sense
that we started trying out every
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African -American wrestler that we could
bring in.
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George Wells.
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You can't run this dog out. I'm here to
stay, and I'm here to whoop a whole lot
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of behind.
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Brickhouse Brown.
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Brickhouse Brown!
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And Brickhouse is silent, Joe.
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They brought another guy in, called him
the snowman.
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I had the pleasure of wrestling him.
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Jake the Snake, he tried to take me out.
These thundercookers, he can't do
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nothing with it.
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Did not work.
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I want the sucker right down here in the
middle of this rain right now.
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Butch Reed was a very good wrestler, but
he wasn't the dog.
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He was a bodybuilder.
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He was too pretty, not that big, bad son
of a bitch that people could identify
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with.
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And on and on.
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So no replacing J .Y .D.? No, none.
Forget about it.
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They were good guys.
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They tried, but replacing a legend?
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That's like hiring the next cowboy to
replace John Wayne.
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How the hell are you going to do that?
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The fans of the WWF welcomed J .Y .D.
with open arms and thunderous applause.
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This place is gone!
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And he certainly has his legions of fans
here by the thousands.
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And these fans are with him all the way.
He is perfect.
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McMahon did a phenomenal job of
marketing JYD when he hired him. I will
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that. You have become one of the most
popular athletes in the World Wrestling
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Federation, perhaps in the most shortest
length of time as anyone ever to enter
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the ring.
421
00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:41,000
You know, I've been very fortunate to
have a lot of help come from him.
422
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,220
Just understand that people, they get
along with people, and they don't make
423
00:25:44,220 --> 00:25:45,560
difference what race or color it is.
424
00:25:46,129 --> 00:25:48,550
financially was the best move Dog ever
made.
425
00:25:48,790 --> 00:25:53,470
He told me one time he was making six
figures a quarter on his action figure.
426
00:25:53,710 --> 00:25:56,650
That's the third time my junkyard's been
burgled this month.
427
00:25:56,930 --> 00:25:59,090
There's only one way to protect this
place, amigo.
428
00:25:59,350 --> 00:26:01,310
You've got to get yourself a junkyard
dog.
429
00:26:01,610 --> 00:26:04,930
I thought that was cool, seeing the
cartoons on Saturday mornings, his
430
00:26:04,930 --> 00:26:08,530
figure, the music video, all that stuff.
That was pretty cool as a kid to see.
431
00:26:08,910 --> 00:26:10,630
What was his tune on the album?
432
00:26:11,010 --> 00:26:14,070
Grab Them Cakes. They couldn't sing for
shit, though.
433
00:26:27,139 --> 00:26:29,400
In his dreams were all being fulfilled.
434
00:26:29,940 --> 00:26:31,280
He was making money.
435
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,820
He was doing it, man. He was doing it.
436
00:26:39,540 --> 00:26:40,980
Longevity wise, you know.
437
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,060
It's hard to stick around. Extremely
competitive business.
438
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,200
Everybody wants Hogan's spot, the spot
below that. A lot of hungry guys.
439
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,240
And hard to stick around.
440
00:26:50,580 --> 00:26:56,320
As the Junkyard Dog joins a WWF roster
packed with some of the biggest names in
441
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,280
wrestling, his magnetic presence can
only carry him so far.
442
00:27:00,620 --> 00:27:05,440
Despite his best efforts, he fails to
recapture the towering heights of his
443
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,180
glory days in Mid -South.
444
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,280
I don't think the industry was ready to
go.
445
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:17,480
That route, how can I say it, with the
black
446
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,460
wrestler, that's just my opinion.
447
00:27:20,820 --> 00:27:26,280
I really believe that JYD thought that
Vince McMahon was going to push him the
448
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,640
same way as Bill Watts.
449
00:27:27,980 --> 00:27:32,960
And it didn't happen. He figured, well,
I don't let Louisiana down.
450
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,780
I don't let my family down.
451
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,680
I don't let Bill Watts down.
452
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,300
He was just heartbreaking.
453
00:27:45,500 --> 00:27:49,560
Having left the Mid -South territory
behind for the promise of even greater
454
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:55,320
fame, the Junkyard Dog fails to reach
the same level of prominence in the WWF.
455
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,380
Me and Dog want to be climbing the
mountaintop. We want to go to the
456
00:27:59,380 --> 00:28:03,380
land. We want to be with Hulk Hogan,
brother. They pushed some black
457
00:28:03,380 --> 00:28:06,860
there, but Ford's putting a black man in
the money spot?
458
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,160
No.
459
00:28:08,900 --> 00:28:09,900
Not at all.
460
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,300
They didn't go there.
461
00:28:11,660 --> 00:28:14,960
So I got to put this black and white
thing together all the time.
462
00:28:15,260 --> 00:28:17,020
Because that's the only way I see it.
463
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:24,200
From 1980 to, I would say, 86, 80 % of
the top wrestlers were minorities
464
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:29,880
in the Vince Senior era. Vince McMahon,
senior figure, that you have to have a
465
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,300
person that represents every nationality
of people. And that was his idea.
466
00:28:34,580 --> 00:28:41,260
Pedro Morales, Bruno San Martino, Rocky
Johnson, the Wild Samoan, Mr. Fuji.
467
00:28:42,090 --> 00:28:43,090
Bob Backler.
468
00:28:43,170 --> 00:28:45,590
And that whole list, I mean, how many
white people?
469
00:28:46,250 --> 00:28:50,310
One. But right now, let's begin the
festivities. Without further ado, let's
470
00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:51,209
up the ringside.
471
00:28:51,210 --> 00:28:52,209
When Vince Jr.
472
00:28:52,210 --> 00:28:57,390
took over, where there wasn't many
minorities on top, he came with the Hulk
473
00:28:57,390 --> 00:29:00,810
Hogan, Ronnie Piper, Bret Hart.
474
00:29:01,310 --> 00:29:04,030
He had a pecking order for Dawn.
475
00:29:04,350 --> 00:29:08,690
He needed a black wrestler, but he had
to push the Caucasian wrestler. It's not
476
00:29:08,690 --> 00:29:10,670
racism. It was a business decision.
477
00:29:10,930 --> 00:29:13,720
He wanted to get... the white fans to
come more.
478
00:29:14,940 --> 00:29:21,800
Vince McMahon didn't use him like Bill
did. I wish he had because if he'd have
479
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,180
opened that door, I think he could have
been one of the biggest stars in the
480
00:29:25,180 --> 00:29:26,180
WWE.
481
00:29:26,620 --> 00:29:28,660
Do I think it affected him? Absolutely.
482
00:29:28,980 --> 00:29:32,700
And I think that was when the drugs got
really bad.
483
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,740
Dawg started off with pot and that led
to cocaine.
484
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,040
He's just smoking.
485
00:29:40,330 --> 00:29:41,870
Yeah, y 'all call it crack now.
486
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:45,850
Once he got into the coke, the coke took
him.
487
00:29:46,790 --> 00:29:48,250
He had to have it every day.
488
00:29:48,610 --> 00:29:51,830
J. White, he didn't care where he was
at. He'd just pull it out and do it.
489
00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:54,690
On the airplanes and everything, man.
490
00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:57,330
He got me in trouble one time.
491
00:29:57,530 --> 00:30:00,230
They were doing a TNT thing that Vince
used to do.
492
00:30:00,430 --> 00:30:02,270
He said, I want you to make sure he get
there.
493
00:30:02,770 --> 00:30:05,230
They got a Lear jet for him, the nice
jet.
494
00:30:05,710 --> 00:30:09,670
So when Dog landed, they got the guy
with the limousine to pick us up at the
495
00:30:09,670 --> 00:30:13,370
airport. Dog said the limousine driver
had to go in the ghetto to get some
496
00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:15,770
So they driving around.
497
00:30:16,290 --> 00:30:17,910
Dog, we got to get to the building, Dog.
498
00:30:18,990 --> 00:30:20,950
He found somebody selling his dope.
499
00:30:22,030 --> 00:30:26,710
The limousine driver had no idea what
was going on. So Dog asked, is it okay I
500
00:30:26,710 --> 00:30:29,090
smoke? He thought it was a cigarette.
501
00:30:29,580 --> 00:30:34,360
The dog said, yeah. He took out his
crack pipe and started smoking crack.
502
00:30:34,620 --> 00:30:36,460
I said, let me just talk like this.
503
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:39,220
He don't know what the hell to do.
504
00:30:40,980 --> 00:30:43,640
We made a good dog there, but we late.
505
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,560
With me, I missed my match.
506
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,460
Dog forgot one thing that Thunderbolt
Patterson tried to teach all of us black
507
00:30:50,460 --> 00:30:55,320
wrestlers. Thunderbolt used to always
say, you can't do what the white man do
508
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,600
and keep your job.
509
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:04,200
By the late 1980s, the Junkyard Dog is
consumed by a devastating drug
510
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,060
and its consequences are felt far beyond
the squared circle.
511
00:31:08,460 --> 00:31:13,740
He didn't look good. He would talk, but
he wasn't that cheerful dog that we
512
00:31:13,740 --> 00:31:14,740
knew.
513
00:31:14,820 --> 00:31:18,040
He just wasn't the same person. He
didn't care what happened.
514
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,540
He didn't care at all.
515
00:31:19,740 --> 00:31:24,860
I mean, he just... Oh, my God. Yeah, he
was out of control.
516
00:31:25,460 --> 00:31:26,780
I remember him.
517
00:31:27,310 --> 00:31:33,050
Sitting there in Madison Square Garden
and loading a pipe up and hitting it
518
00:31:33,050 --> 00:31:34,050
right in front of everybody.
519
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:39,310
I said, what are you doing, man? He
goes, they don't even know what it is.
520
00:31:40,130 --> 00:31:42,310
He was just burnt.
521
00:31:44,690 --> 00:31:47,430
Oh, yeah. The dog came out of this
hiding place.
522
00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:51,110
Started to begin to move up and down
that ladder once again.
523
00:31:51,310 --> 00:31:53,110
Like I said, time and time again.
524
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,120
Every dog needs a bone to chew on.
525
00:31:57,340 --> 00:32:01,240
Of course, he had a drug problem.
Everybody was taking drugs back then. I
526
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,500
throw no stones, A to Z. I just never
had that addictive type personality.
527
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,280
But, dog, he struggled with that.
528
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:13,400
He sank into it. It was more and more,
and, you know, there was no talking him
529
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:14,139
out of it.
530
00:32:14,140 --> 00:32:16,240
Why has he let go from WWF?
531
00:32:16,460 --> 00:32:17,219
No shows.
532
00:32:17,220 --> 00:32:18,500
The way I understood it.
533
00:32:19,420 --> 00:32:22,200
Fred didn't care what you did with
drugs. Go, go, go.
534
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,560
But you miss shows, you scare me to do
that.
535
00:32:26,220 --> 00:32:29,880
I didn't have no idea that he was
leaving or anything like that. And
536
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,600
way the wrestling business, it was like
that.
537
00:32:31,820 --> 00:32:34,180
They didn't give you two weeks notice to
tell you, hey, leave.
538
00:32:35,060 --> 00:32:36,700
A guy can't go buy groceries.
539
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,520
He don't have any money.
540
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:40,900
And you haven't seen your family.
541
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,680
It's disheartening.
542
00:32:43,620 --> 00:32:45,160
He definitely had a great soul.
543
00:32:46,020 --> 00:32:49,460
If J .Y .D.'s story isn't a cautionary
tale, then people aren't paying
544
00:32:49,460 --> 00:32:50,460
attention.
545
00:32:58,570 --> 00:33:04,030
Fired from the WWF and struggling to
make ends meet, JYD turns to the
546
00:33:04,030 --> 00:33:08,170
independent circuit, performing in small
high school gyms for diminishing
547
00:33:08,170 --> 00:33:09,170
crowds.
548
00:33:10,110 --> 00:33:15,250
After hitting rock bottom, JYD's
fortunes change with an offer to join
549
00:33:15,250 --> 00:33:19,930
Championship Wrestling, where his old
friend and mentor Bill Watts is now in
550
00:33:19,930 --> 00:33:23,790
charge. Bill Watts came in and he knew
that he could make his mark if he
551
00:33:23,790 --> 00:33:25,170
recaptured that black superstar.
552
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:31,040
He was a likable as hell. Everybody
there was happy to try to resurrect him,
553
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,880
shall we say. I knew that his days of
working on top were over. He didn't know
554
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,520
that. He didn't seem like he wanted to
admit it, but you ain't the same guy.
555
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,180
And you look bloated.
556
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,180
You're not in JYD right now.
557
00:33:43,780 --> 00:33:47,300
And at some point, you hold out hope for
somebody that you love and respect.
558
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:48,840
Well, they'll see the light.
559
00:33:49,220 --> 00:33:50,360
But let me tell you something.
560
00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:53,220
As my daddy would say, they got to carry
their share of the water.
561
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,760
I get mad when I pull up stories about
the first thing people say, drugs this,
562
00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,599
drugs that.
563
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,960
You got a guy that came from nothing.
564
00:34:02,540 --> 00:34:06,600
They pulled him out of that environment,
gave him all this money, not making
565
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,860
excuses, but yeah, he did drugs.
566
00:34:09,260 --> 00:34:10,260
Whoopee.
567
00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:11,940
I mean, everybody got demons.
568
00:34:13,060 --> 00:34:18,340
I'm pretty sure the last time I seen him
was like 1995, and I came in and he was
569
00:34:18,340 --> 00:34:19,340
just mumbling.
570
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,500
That was about it, man.
571
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,620
They went back to where he was sitting.
They said, he's in the ring.
572
00:34:25,940 --> 00:34:28,500
I went out to watch. They were ringing
the bell. It was over.
573
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,500
After about two minutes, that's all he
gave them.
574
00:34:32,060 --> 00:34:34,940
And he came back, grabbed his money, and
walked out the door.
575
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,100
Didn't say bye, didn't say hi, didn't
say nothing.
576
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,639
And I know exactly where he was at. He
was wanting to get outside so he could
577
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:44,639
get high again.
578
00:34:44,659 --> 00:34:45,659
Been there.
579
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,040
Been there.
580
00:34:47,659 --> 00:34:48,880
He had his drug fixed.
581
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:52,620
He was perfectly happy to go into
isolation until he needed the money.
582
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,679
They didn't work a show for some
independent promoter for the cash.
583
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:03,000
You see, the pain that you get from the
cocaine is because you look in the
584
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,740
mirror every now and then, a moment of
clarity, and you'll look at yourself and
585
00:35:06,740 --> 00:35:09,220
you'll see just how far down you've
gone.
586
00:35:09,700 --> 00:35:10,700
That's painful.
587
00:35:10,820 --> 00:35:13,340
And it's also shameful.
588
00:35:14,180 --> 00:35:16,660
And those two things, man, will kill
you.
589
00:35:18,250 --> 00:35:24,510
In just over a decade, J .Y .D. goes
from headlining the Superdome to working
590
00:35:24,510 --> 00:35:26,490
part -time job at a local Walmart.
591
00:35:26,910 --> 00:35:31,530
Dog is used to being treated a certain
way for a long period of time, from his
592
00:35:31,530 --> 00:35:33,830
football career to his wrestling career.
593
00:35:34,050 --> 00:35:37,070
And then all of a sudden, all that is
taken away from him. You have to get
594
00:35:37,070 --> 00:35:40,510
to being treated like shit, pretty much.
595
00:35:41,310 --> 00:35:43,870
When I hit that spot, I tried to commit
suicide.
596
00:35:45,180 --> 00:35:47,920
I was homeless for a year and a half. I
slept in the park.
597
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,880
Didn't shower or bathe or brush my teeth
or comb my hair for a year and a half.
598
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,400
That was right before the start of
December. So Dahl was going through the
599
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,600
thing. He didn't save his money. Dahl
was very careless with money. He would
600
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,440
make $8 ,000, $10 ,000 a week.
601
00:36:01,380 --> 00:36:05,600
It just came so easy to him. And all of
us felt the same way, not just Dahl,
602
00:36:05,660 --> 00:36:06,920
that it would never end.
603
00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:09,060
We figured this would never end.
604
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,480
That we always...
605
00:36:10,970 --> 00:36:13,950
Going to be making money. We're always
going to be big stars.
606
00:36:14,250 --> 00:36:15,490
This would never end.
607
00:36:16,750 --> 00:36:21,290
So the phone rings one day and I get a
call from J .W .D. I hadn't talked to
608
00:36:21,290 --> 00:36:26,090
in quite a while. And he knows by now
that, you know, I've had this change in
609
00:36:26,090 --> 00:36:30,430
life and that I'm out not only doing
school assemblies, but I'm speaking in
610
00:36:30,430 --> 00:36:33,530
churches. If you're a wrestling fan, you
may have remembered the Million Dollar
611
00:36:33,530 --> 00:36:36,370
Man. How many in this room would say you
remember that guy?
612
00:36:36,770 --> 00:36:37,770
Yeah!
613
00:36:38,060 --> 00:36:43,160
And he says, I want you to encourage
those kids you're talking to not to do
614
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,160
I did.
615
00:36:44,620 --> 00:36:48,120
And I was just like, wow.
616
00:36:48,740 --> 00:36:51,460
I did what he asked me to do. That's
sin.
617
00:36:51,900 --> 00:36:55,680
That one that goes away for a week or a
month and then it rears its ugly head
618
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:56,680
and it's back.
619
00:36:56,860 --> 00:36:58,900
Or maybe even worse, it's there every
day.
620
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,320
Drugs, alcohol, addiction.
621
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:07,200
Here's a guy who was the biggest name
and succumbed to drugs.
622
00:37:07,830 --> 00:37:11,290
And, of course, that was probably one of
the last conversations we had.
623
00:37:12,690 --> 00:37:15,590
The last time he came home was for his
daughter's graduation.
624
00:37:16,050 --> 00:37:17,310
He was coming from Mississippi.
625
00:37:18,530 --> 00:37:22,430
Dog was real proud of his daughter. He
wanted to make sure that he was at his
626
00:37:22,430 --> 00:37:25,550
daughter's graduation because, I mean,
she would have wanted that too. I mean,
627
00:37:25,550 --> 00:37:29,830
you've got to feel real proud if your
dad is a junkyard dog and he walks into
628
00:37:29,830 --> 00:37:30,830
your graduation.
629
00:37:31,230 --> 00:37:35,870
It don't get no better than that. So he
was certainly determined to get there.
630
00:37:37,630 --> 00:37:41,170
From where he was living out in
Mississippi to Charlotte, North
631
00:37:41,170 --> 00:37:44,450
about a nine -hour drive one way. He
misses the graduation.
632
00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:49,410
We're all at my mom and dad's house. He
shows up. Of course, he apologizes that
633
00:37:49,410 --> 00:37:53,670
he was late. He holds my son for the
first time. My son was six months old,
634
00:37:53,670 --> 00:37:56,470
he looks like a little miniature baby
doll in his hand.
635
00:37:57,050 --> 00:37:58,450
And he held him for a while.
636
00:37:58,710 --> 00:38:01,810
But that was the last family photo taken
of him.
637
00:38:04,010 --> 00:38:07,250
And then later on, he said, I'm going to
get back on the road.
638
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,500
So I met him at this gas station, and
there's something on the driver's side
639
00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:13,080
door. I'm like, dude, what's that?
640
00:38:13,300 --> 00:38:14,300
He goes, puke?
641
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,240
Once he had a long night last night.
642
00:38:18,940 --> 00:38:21,740
So I didn't think nothing else about it,
and I said, you going to drive all the
643
00:38:21,740 --> 00:38:23,780
way back home? You're not going to pull
over to sleep or anything?
644
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,360
He said, nah, just going to go ahead and
drive on, you know, make it straight
645
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,360
home.
646
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,540
I didn't know that was going to be the
last conversation I had with him,
647
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:44,800
On June 1, 1998, after leaving a
celebration of his daughter's high
648
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:50,360
graduation, the junkyard dog sets out on
the long and fateful journey home.
649
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,900
We talked 10, 15 minutes right before he
was getting ready to go.
650
00:38:54,260 --> 00:38:55,740
He's done gashing up and everything.
651
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,080
And he said,
652
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,960
well, man, when you come back down, I'll
be back on the 4th. Be back on the 4th.
653
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,380
I said, all right, well, cool, man. I'll
see you then.
654
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,920
Dapped each other up.
655
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,580
He gets in the car and he drives away. I
go home.
656
00:39:08,270 --> 00:39:12,270
The next day, I get the call at work,
and it's my mom.
657
00:39:12,690 --> 00:39:18,410
And she's, you know, very upset. And she
said, this officer got killed last
658
00:39:18,410 --> 00:39:20,230
night. I was like, wait, what?
659
00:39:20,890 --> 00:39:25,870
And she rambled something, and I could
barely make it out. I just heard car.
660
00:39:26,170 --> 00:39:28,370
She got killed, and she hangs up the
phone.
661
00:39:31,210 --> 00:39:35,910
And according to the authorities, an
accident happened that morning.
662
00:39:36,380 --> 00:39:39,440
So he drove all through the night, all
night long. He fell asleep.
663
00:39:39,660 --> 00:39:42,320
There was no skid marks. You could see
where the car did off the road, and it
664
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,320
flipped several times.
665
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:46,020
There's no way he could have been
wearing his seatbelt because he was too
666
00:39:46,020 --> 00:39:48,180
big for that seatbelt. He shouldn't have
been in that car anyway.
667
00:39:48,940 --> 00:39:51,940
And it was head trauma, according to the
autopsy.
668
00:39:53,390 --> 00:39:56,850
A lot of times when you're on the drugs,
you know, you're up three or four days.
669
00:39:56,930 --> 00:40:00,870
Sometimes you don't get no rest until
sometime the body just says, hey, I
670
00:40:00,870 --> 00:40:02,210
want no more, I'm shutting down.
671
00:40:02,490 --> 00:40:06,310
So that's what the body has to do to you
for you to really go get rest. So I
672
00:40:06,310 --> 00:40:09,390
think Dog just hadn't had no rest and
the body just shut down.
673
00:40:09,790 --> 00:40:10,930
It broke my heart.
674
00:40:11,350 --> 00:40:14,490
And I'm sure it broke the world's heart.
675
00:40:14,930 --> 00:40:16,310
He loved Ted DiBiase.
676
00:40:16,530 --> 00:40:17,530
They was like brothers.
677
00:40:17,770 --> 00:40:19,390
And I know it broke Ted's heart.
678
00:40:19,630 --> 00:40:22,210
I was very hopeful that he was...
679
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:28,040
It's going to get better. The next thing
I know, he's had a car wreck.
680
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,820
How did you learn about his passing?
681
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,580
I got a phone call when he hit the car
wreck.
682
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,560
To tell you the truth, I was happy for
him.
683
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,140
Because I was still caught in the
trenches.
684
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,620
And I knew that he had escaped.
685
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,540
I knew that the pain was over.
686
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:56,340
I started crying because I realized I
never got to tell him how much I loved
687
00:40:56,340 --> 00:40:59,860
him. The period of time I was around
him, he was such a dynamite human being.
688
00:40:59,900 --> 00:41:04,920
The fact of how we ended our
relationship was not near as important
689
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:05,879
we spent together.
690
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,060
J .Y .D. was a neat, special person.
691
00:41:08,300 --> 00:41:12,860
And then you also see the terrible
battle that's fought when guys get
692
00:41:12,860 --> 00:41:15,060
that gets a hold of them that they can't
whip.
693
00:41:16,300 --> 00:41:21,120
All right, so this is his grave site
here. One of his last wrestling
694
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,520
Just below him, this is his daughter.
695
00:41:25,540 --> 00:41:30,320
What actually, what it was, was a
ruptured heart valve that actually
696
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,420
exploded. There was nothing they could
have done anyway.
697
00:41:32,660 --> 00:41:37,360
And then she passed away a few minutes
after that. And she was 31 years old.
698
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,720
My mom comes to see with flowers and
everything. Never misses a holiday,
699
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:48,160
birthday. My mom finds it very difficult
to talk about Sylvester because she was
700
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,160
so close to him.
701
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,220
And she raised Latoya as her daughter.
702
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,400
It's just traumatic for her to go back
down memory lane, so to speak. I think
703
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,820
just opens up too many wounds that
probably hadn't fully healed.
704
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:02,780
He's a trailblazer, man.
705
00:42:03,060 --> 00:42:06,620
I'm sure a lot of those young guys
appreciate the path that you laid for
706
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,900
Yes, he did. He paved the way for all of
us. I mean, any time he came out, you
707
00:42:10,900 --> 00:42:15,360
always remember JYD, and you will
remember him when you left that arena
708
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,180
night. So Dog's legacy is he's just one
of the greatest black stars in pro
709
00:42:19,180 --> 00:42:20,180
wrestling.
710
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:27,440
JYD did more to create awareness and
acceptance within the
711
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:32,400
closed world, very prejudiced world of
pro wrestling. He stepped to the front
712
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,740
the line, and he stayed in the front of
the line for many, many years.
713
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,680
The charisma was natural and real,
organic.
714
00:42:39,620 --> 00:42:41,420
And that's what separated him from the
pack.
715
00:42:41,740 --> 00:42:43,080
Oh, the crowd said, who that?
716
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,280
Who that?
717
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:47,380
Who that going to beat that junkyard
dog? Who that?
718
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,620
This guy is a true hero.
719
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:54,120
So I prefer to remember him in the
happier days and not anything else.
720
00:42:54,380 --> 00:42:55,600
He broke the barriers.
721
00:42:56,020 --> 00:42:59,540
I mean, the fans are just all over you,
dog. It gets pretty hectic at that time,
722
00:42:59,580 --> 00:43:03,200
but I enjoy it, man. I love it. But see,
in this business, I let them get close
723
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:03,718
to me.
724
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:05,480
He always had a moment for a kid.
725
00:43:06,010 --> 00:43:10,990
Warren Grunin, he had that charisma that
made him a god to those that loved him,
726
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:12,970
and there were so many people that loved
him.
727
00:43:13,330 --> 00:43:14,330
Black and white.
728
00:43:14,610 --> 00:43:18,290
Yeah, it's hard to find anybody to say
something bad about J .Y .D. He was a
729
00:43:18,290 --> 00:43:21,930
stand -up guy in a business where
there's not a whole lot of stand -up
730
00:43:22,310 --> 00:43:27,530
I'm honored to introduce Sylvester
Ritter, the junkyard dog, the wrestling
731
00:43:27,530 --> 00:43:28,530
of fame.
732
00:43:28,770 --> 00:43:33,350
I'm hoping that he's remembered for good
stuff that he did in the industry.
733
00:43:34,410 --> 00:43:38,510
Latoya Riddle will be the recipient of
the award for her dance.
734
00:43:39,010 --> 00:43:42,750
While I'm standing here, it's important
to me, and I know it will be important
735
00:43:42,750 --> 00:43:47,230
to him, to introduce his sister,
Christine Woodburn. He called her Big
736
00:43:48,190 --> 00:43:53,790
I didn't get to speak to J .Y .D. very
much at the end, but again, that last
737
00:43:53,790 --> 00:43:59,670
conversation, when he said, tell my
story, when you're talking to those
738
00:43:59,850 --> 00:44:02,910
that told me, I said, the guy that I
knew is back.
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