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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,050 --> 00:00:11,990 After a sellout European tour, the World Wrestling Federation's top stars in 2 00:00:11,990 --> 00:00:17,150 management boarded a private 757 jet in London to return home. 3 00:00:17,530 --> 00:00:19,830 Every seat on the plane was a first -class seat. 4 00:00:20,590 --> 00:00:26,070 It cost us a lot of money, but it made it more convenient for the talent to 5 00:00:26,070 --> 00:00:27,070 travel. 6 00:00:27,310 --> 00:00:32,250 What was supposed to be a triumphant flight in decadence descended into a 7 00:00:32,250 --> 00:00:34,330 nightmare at 30 ,000 feet. 8 00:00:34,910 --> 00:00:38,310 The party starts when you get on them plates and you just start drinking. 9 00:00:39,510 --> 00:00:41,730 But that night, it was too much. 10 00:00:43,010 --> 00:00:47,990 When you have an open bar and you're sitting there for seven hours, of course 11 00:00:47,990 --> 00:00:48,990 these things are going to happen. 12 00:00:50,110 --> 00:00:54,990 Naked men with robes, guys passing out, drinking, busting each other open, 13 00:00:55,070 --> 00:00:56,930 cutting ponytails off. 14 00:00:58,230 --> 00:00:59,330 Sounds like hell to me. 15 00:01:00,430 --> 00:01:04,110 Like, I just knew, okay, the boys are being boys and I'm not going back there 16 00:01:04,110 --> 00:01:10,530 all. I remember thinking, like, is somebody going to say that this has gone 17 00:01:10,530 --> 00:01:11,530 far? 18 00:01:11,730 --> 00:01:13,390 The talent was just crazy. 19 00:01:13,590 --> 00:01:15,550 I mean, they were great guys, don't get me wrong. 20 00:01:15,850 --> 00:01:16,890 They act like asses. 21 00:01:17,850 --> 00:01:23,770 Children. The mid -air collision between intoxicated wrestlers and a flight crew 22 00:01:23,770 --> 00:01:28,750 determined to prevent an all -out disaster would erupt into one of 23 00:01:28,750 --> 00:01:30,270 most infamous scandals. 24 00:01:30,700 --> 00:01:36,340 I think people have no idea what really goes on sometimes, especially back then 25 00:01:36,340 --> 00:01:40,800 in pro wrestling. And this is just like a capsule of what pro wrestling was like 26 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:41,800 in that era. 27 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:47,160 It was just a normal occurrence for a crazy bunch of wrestlers on a plane. 28 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:53,700 Seems like a crazy story to probably everyone who is watching this outside of 29 00:01:53,700 --> 00:01:54,700 professional wrestlers. 30 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,000 I never talked about the plane ride from hell again in my life. 31 00:02:00,510 --> 00:02:01,570 I would be very happy. 32 00:02:07,510 --> 00:02:11,030 The deal is finalized with WCW. 33 00:02:11,390 --> 00:02:15,850 However, the contract reads Shane McMahon. 34 00:02:16,290 --> 00:02:23,190 By the early 2000s, the WWF is riding a wave of unprecedented success with a 35 00:02:23,190 --> 00:02:27,070 roster of breakout stars and fellow crowds across the world. 36 00:02:27,470 --> 00:02:29,810 Business was going really well for the WWE. 37 00:02:30,230 --> 00:02:33,890 Selling tickets, pay -per -view buy rates. Everybody was making money. 38 00:02:36,330 --> 00:02:40,730 The crowds were there every night you sell a house. Everywhere you go, Europe, 39 00:02:40,870 --> 00:02:43,090 the state, Canada, and everything. 40 00:02:43,310 --> 00:02:44,530 I mean, our show was booming. 41 00:02:44,930 --> 00:02:47,270 During this surge in popularity... 42 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:53,840 CEO Vince McMahon acquires his competitors WCW and ECW, consolidating 43 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,260 industry's biggest players into an undisputed monopoly of the wrestling 44 00:02:58,420 --> 00:03:02,240 I, Vince McMahon, bought my competition. 45 00:03:02,700 --> 00:03:06,000 The bubble had burst in wrestling. There was literally the WWE, nothing else. If 46 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,520 you want to make a full -time living in professional wrestling, it was the only 47 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:10,520 place to be. 48 00:03:11,140 --> 00:03:14,960 My name is Tommy Dreamer, and I'm known as the innovator of violence. 49 00:03:15,870 --> 00:03:22,110 It was a much different time. There was holdovers from ECW and WCW, and we're 50 00:03:22,110 --> 00:03:23,990 all just trying to find our way into WWE. 51 00:03:27,650 --> 00:03:34,490 You've got to wonder how long he had been planning this ECW 52 00:03:34,490 --> 00:03:37,750 assault on the WWF. 53 00:03:39,210 --> 00:03:42,770 I'm Jim Ross, and I was the vice president of talent relations. 54 00:03:43,820 --> 00:03:50,660 My job in a nutshell was the overall management of the talents that appeared 55 00:03:50,660 --> 00:03:51,660 television. 56 00:03:52,260 --> 00:03:58,200 The WWF's roster exploded in size and stature by securing talent from their 57 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,060 former rivals while also welcoming back returning legends. 58 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,340 There's the nature boy! 59 00:04:04,980 --> 00:04:06,340 We're partners! 60 00:04:06,740 --> 00:04:08,460 Blair McMahon are partners! 61 00:04:08,860 --> 00:04:10,420 Yeah! Ric Flair's a legend. 62 00:04:11,340 --> 00:04:17,959 So many of our younger guys grew up watching him, idolizing him, and trying 63 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:20,519 take things from Rick's game and add to theirs. 64 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,420 So, yeah, having Rick in the locker room was a positive thing. 65 00:04:24,660 --> 00:04:25,900 I love my job. 66 00:04:26,340 --> 00:04:28,440 I love helping build that talent roster. 67 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,560 Because I think that having those talents was a great reason, perhaps we 68 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,920 say the only reason, that the business went crazy and blew up. 69 00:04:39,689 --> 00:04:41,390 Everything was getting better. 70 00:04:41,790 --> 00:04:42,830 Millions of dollars. 71 00:04:43,810 --> 00:04:49,710 Thanks to the men and the women that came to work for us on that team. 72 00:04:50,770 --> 00:04:57,010 As the momentum in the States grew, so did the momentum in the UK grow. 73 00:04:57,550 --> 00:05:03,450 In May 2002, the company traveled to Europe for a four -day tour, concluding 74 00:05:03,450 --> 00:05:05,790 with a sold -out pay -per -view event in London. 75 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,300 It's probably one of the best crowds when we go overseas. So we're always 76 00:05:10,300 --> 00:05:13,680 up. We're always looking forward to it. And to be honest, the pay's pretty good 77 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,700 when we go overseas because the crowds are so big. So, yeah, I'd say the morale 78 00:05:17,700 --> 00:05:20,660 was high, and we were stoked to have some good times. 79 00:05:21,500 --> 00:05:25,220 My name is P .J. Polacco, and you may know me as the hardcore icon Justin 80 00:05:25,220 --> 00:05:26,220 Credlin. 81 00:05:26,900 --> 00:05:31,040 Some of the big names on that trip were certainly Stone Cold Steve Austin, The 82 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,100 Undertaker was on the flight, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash. 83 00:05:34,910 --> 00:05:39,190 Brock Lesnar was on the flight, Ric Flair was on the flight, and many 84 00:05:39,190 --> 00:05:40,190 it was a stacked. 85 00:05:40,390 --> 00:05:46,510 It's a long flight, and we thought that by chartering a customized 86 00:05:46,510 --> 00:05:52,810 jet that we were being as talent -friendly as we could. 87 00:05:53,630 --> 00:05:58,570 Unfortunately, it didn't work out well. 88 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,160 My name is Heidi Doyle, and in 2002, I was a flight attendant on the European 89 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,300 charter for the WWE. 90 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,000 I worked for a company called Sports Jet. 91 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,080 It was a private airline that flew many of the different sports teams out of the 92 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,560 Phoenix area, the Phoenix Suns and the Phoenix Coyotes. We also flew the Utah 93 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:20,700 Jazz and the Mariners. 94 00:06:21,500 --> 00:06:26,360 A normal commercial Boeing 757 would have 190 seats, and our flight had 50 95 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,140 leather seats and a bigger carpet than I've ever had in my own house. 96 00:06:29,530 --> 00:06:32,950 There's couches and lounge areas. It's just not a very bad way to travel. 97 00:06:33,590 --> 00:06:37,150 It costs a lot to do it privately, but you also get many benefits. You get to 98 00:06:37,150 --> 00:06:39,410 order your own food. You know what you're going to eat. You know you're all 99 00:06:39,410 --> 00:06:40,410 going to be comfortable. 100 00:06:40,490 --> 00:06:43,910 You know that you don't have to deal with anybody of the general public on 101 00:06:43,910 --> 00:06:44,910 airplane. 102 00:06:45,030 --> 00:06:47,210 You're just amongst the group that's your people. 103 00:06:48,130 --> 00:06:51,110 It's just nice to know that we're not going to offend anyone. 104 00:06:51,590 --> 00:06:55,450 Like sometimes when the boys are on flight and they're a bit obnoxious, it's 105 00:06:55,450 --> 00:06:58,770 kind of like you go, like, oh gosh, are we going to, you know. 106 00:06:59,150 --> 00:07:00,150 Sorry. 107 00:07:01,310 --> 00:07:05,450 Hi, I'm Terry Reynolds, and I was a passenger on the plane ride from hell. 108 00:07:06,010 --> 00:07:09,130 Roll dust along with a woman carrying a cigar. 109 00:07:10,070 --> 00:07:12,590 I remember sitting in the first class section. 110 00:07:12,790 --> 00:07:17,090 I think Jim Ross was up there, Linda, and Ben. 111 00:07:18,039 --> 00:07:21,660 The front had a lounge area, so it was kind of like your first class of the 112 00:07:21,660 --> 00:07:24,820 first class, I guess, of the airplanes. And generally the coaches and the 113 00:07:24,820 --> 00:07:28,760 managers sat up there. And in this case, Vince McMahon and his wife, they were 114 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,440 up there, and then the wrestlers were in the back. 115 00:07:31,580 --> 00:07:34,220 So I was in the back with the majority of the wrestlers. 116 00:07:35,100 --> 00:07:39,320 My responsibility in the very back was getting them their drinks, getting the 117 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,340 meals out to them. They were hungry. They wanted to try all the different 118 00:07:42,340 --> 00:07:43,340 that were on the airplane. 119 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,920 Rick Flair had talked to all of us a lot. He was very chatty and he was kind 120 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,600 like the captain of the team, I would say. He had that kind of feel and he was 121 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,520 very, very nice and personable to us. 122 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,260 He was a little flirty, I think. 123 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:04,000 99 % of the time we had men. That's who we were working with. You just had to be 124 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,540 aware of getting too comfortable, I think, because that can always just 125 00:08:07,540 --> 00:08:12,640 situation that different people can have different thoughts of the level of 126 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:13,640 comfortableness. 127 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,820 But on the flight to Europe, there's no problem. 128 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:23,020 After an uneventful eight -hour flight across the Atlantic, the charter arrives 129 00:08:23,020 --> 00:08:26,120 at its first stop on the tour, Cologne, Germany. 130 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:35,659 My name is Rob 131 00:08:35,659 --> 00:08:42,020 Van Dam, WWE Hall of Famer and the whole damn show. 132 00:08:42,799 --> 00:08:49,260 It's cool to see how you affect these other cultures, you know, and other 133 00:08:49,260 --> 00:08:55,980 countries. They had some diehard fans, let me tell you. The 134 00:08:55,980 --> 00:09:00,600 Germans were very into the WWE, and it was very, yeah, it was an intense, 135 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,240 enlightening experience, the match was. 136 00:09:03,020 --> 00:09:08,460 Our flight attendants, they were with us almost every day. Some came to the 137 00:09:08,460 --> 00:09:10,960 shows, some were partying at the hotels. 138 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,840 with the wrestlers at the bars. 139 00:09:14,100 --> 00:09:18,800 In the 80s and 90s, these flight attendants, they kind of would party 140 00:09:18,860 --> 00:09:20,800 hang out with you in the back, drink with you. 141 00:09:21,660 --> 00:09:23,240 Hello, I'm Michael Chioda. 142 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,660 Worked for the World Wrestling Entertainment for 35 years. 143 00:09:27,260 --> 00:09:30,400 WWF referee Mike Chioda! 144 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,700 Yeah, you used to go out, meet up with some flight attendants down at the bar. 145 00:09:34,940 --> 00:09:38,120 They might be staying at the same hotel, or you'd go to their hotel on a five 146 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,120 -minute cab ride. 147 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:44,240 We went downstairs and had drinks when the wrestlers came back from the first 148 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:45,240 match in Germany. 149 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,300 We chatted a little bit with them that first night. 150 00:09:48,700 --> 00:09:53,100 It was my first trip back to work after having a baby, and I was so enjoying my 151 00:09:53,100 --> 00:09:57,740 time resting in my room and getting to order room service and not have to wake 152 00:09:57,740 --> 00:10:01,060 up at all hours of the night. But I only went to the one match in Germany. 153 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,580 You literally will wrestle in Germany, and the next day you wake up, you're in 154 00:10:04,580 --> 00:10:08,520 Scotland. You wake up the next day, you're in London. 155 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,580 By the time we got to London, usually everybody's really stoked. I remember it 156 00:10:13,580 --> 00:10:16,860 being a Saturday night because that's when the pay -per -view aired 157 00:10:16,860 --> 00:10:21,480 traditionally over there. And it was WWE's pay -per -view insurrection. 158 00:10:21,940 --> 00:10:24,120 The city of London is on fire! 159 00:10:24,340 --> 00:10:25,940 This is insurrection! 160 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,560 It was a packed house, European crowds, lava. 161 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,100 All the tickets to this event sold out in 21 minutes! 162 00:10:33,380 --> 00:10:37,400 I remember the show being solid. The talent seemed to be happy with their 163 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:38,400 performances. 164 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,980 and they were even more happy to get back on the plane and go home. 165 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:47,000 Well, I had been away from my daughter for the first time, and I was more than 166 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:53,820 excited. The excitement to return home is quickly deflated 167 00:10:53,820 --> 00:10:56,560 as the passengers are delivered troubling news. 168 00:10:57,020 --> 00:11:02,020 Everyone took their seats, and we taxied out onto the tarmac, and we got advised 169 00:11:02,020 --> 00:11:03,640 that we were on a weather hold from Connecticut. 170 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,300 When we were told it was a weather delay, I bet we probably all thought 171 00:11:08,300 --> 00:11:10,180 minutes, 40 minutes, an hour top. 172 00:11:10,700 --> 00:11:16,740 Well, we were delayed for seven hours before 173 00:11:16,740 --> 00:11:18,680 the plane takes off. 174 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,620 So we sat on the tarmac a little while. 175 00:11:23,660 --> 00:11:26,460 Commercial airlines, you would all be familiar with the small little mini 176 00:11:26,460 --> 00:11:29,360 bottles. We had just normal bottles. 177 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,820 And the liquor cart ran out of alcohol. 178 00:11:34,860 --> 00:11:39,000 And another liquor cart was ordered at their request. 179 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,740 And that was also drank, so that liquor cart ran out. 180 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,900 And then a third one was ordered. 181 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,440 And how common is it to, like, go through a cart before a plane takes off? 182 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,540 never ever done it ever before and never again. 183 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,200 And we went through three. 184 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,340 Imagine your varsity football team. 185 00:12:01,070 --> 00:12:05,530 They've just won a game, except they can't get out of the parking lot, and 186 00:12:05,530 --> 00:12:07,890 there's cases and cases of beer. 187 00:12:08,170 --> 00:12:09,210 That's what it's like. 188 00:12:09,430 --> 00:12:11,370 A bunch of high school guys. 189 00:12:12,270 --> 00:12:16,650 To say it's high school is really like giving it too much. It's more like fifth 190 00:12:16,650 --> 00:12:22,810 grade. Even though it was their plane, in a sense, we served the drinks still, 191 00:12:23,010 --> 00:12:25,190 but that became not the case. 192 00:12:25,830 --> 00:12:28,610 They started to serve themselves the drinks, and they didn't want our help. 193 00:12:29,870 --> 00:12:34,750 I was very concerned about the cuts being replenished on the ground. 194 00:12:36,330 --> 00:12:40,030 If they were to try to cut us off, we would have gotten to that booze. 195 00:12:40,330 --> 00:12:41,330 Somebody would have. 196 00:12:41,610 --> 00:12:45,190 Flair probably could have thrown a couple thousand dollars at them and 197 00:12:45,210 --> 00:12:49,190 here, take this, we're going to get that liquor. We would have got the liquor. 198 00:12:49,890 --> 00:12:50,890 Absolutely. 199 00:12:51,430 --> 00:12:56,150 I think the relief that they're finally going home was cause for celebration. 200 00:12:56,710 --> 00:12:58,690 They only got a small window now. 201 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,020 They really let their hair down and become stupid. 202 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,480 And that's what a lot of them chose to do. 203 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,740 After spending several grueling hours grounded on the tarmac and indulging in 204 00:13:17,740 --> 00:13:22,800 unlimited supply of alcohol, the passengers aboard WWF's private charter 205 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,800 relieved as the jet is finally cleared for takeoff. 206 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,660 I don't remember how long we've been up in the air before. 207 00:13:29,130 --> 00:13:33,730 It was very, very evident that we had a lot of drunk people. 208 00:13:34,050 --> 00:13:37,150 Oh, shoot. The boys, they can get drunk in one hour. 209 00:13:37,650 --> 00:13:42,050 When you're doing GHB or pills or anything like that, Percocets or 210 00:13:42,050 --> 00:13:45,830 stuff that were around, you can do a lot of damage, period, in one hour. 211 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,580 But it was always booze and pills in the WWE because we had doctor's 212 00:13:50,580 --> 00:13:54,720 prescriptions. And as long as you had a doctor's prescription, it was okay. Of 213 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,480 course, it wasn't because, you know, we'd have doctors write us whatever we 214 00:13:58,480 --> 00:13:59,480 wanted. 215 00:13:59,740 --> 00:14:05,660 Halcyons, GHB, Placidil. Now, the Placidils, I think, were in the early 216 00:14:06,020 --> 00:14:10,360 But I know there was some GHB and Halcyons on the flight. Halcyons were 217 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,480 that we took sometimes just to go to sleep for a long period of time. 218 00:14:15,509 --> 00:14:17,770 And sometimes you use them for a rib too. 219 00:14:19,870 --> 00:14:23,810 Way back in the day, it used to be called H -bombing and it was Halcyon. 220 00:14:23,810 --> 00:14:28,670 I've seen so many guys dropping these H -bombs in the drinks in order to get the 221 00:14:28,670 --> 00:14:33,150 mark to pass out. They shave his head, you know, whatever they do. 222 00:14:33,650 --> 00:14:38,730 Girls, local girls, you know, were put out so the boys could have their way 223 00:14:38,730 --> 00:14:41,430 them while they're out. I mean, this was... 224 00:14:44,810 --> 00:14:49,930 It was kind of normal in some of the places that I've been. 225 00:14:50,390 --> 00:14:52,030 Never leave your drink exposed. 226 00:14:53,170 --> 00:14:59,750 Because the boys think seeing somebody froth at the mouth and slur their 227 00:14:59,990 --> 00:15:05,050 they can't stand up, manage their own faculties. It's funny. 228 00:15:06,430 --> 00:15:11,470 The story was out that Michael got H -bombs. What was his role at that point? 229 00:15:12,069 --> 00:15:14,410 My plays weren't too creative at that point in time. 230 00:15:14,830 --> 00:15:18,850 I don't know if he was officially an agent, a coach, a producer. They've gone 231 00:15:18,850 --> 00:15:20,590 through several names. They all do the same thing. 232 00:15:21,570 --> 00:15:24,910 With the house down in his body. And I don't know what else could have been in 233 00:15:24,910 --> 00:15:26,230 there. He was not himself. 234 00:15:27,130 --> 00:15:28,490 And he made bad decisions. 235 00:15:30,110 --> 00:15:33,990 Bradshaw had gotten split open the night of the pay -per -view. 236 00:15:34,250 --> 00:15:35,129 Oh, yes! 237 00:15:35,130 --> 00:15:35,809 He did! 238 00:15:35,810 --> 00:15:38,930 As Bradshaw is sleeping... 239 00:15:39,230 --> 00:15:42,230 Michael Hayes just knocked him in his head and reopened the wound. 240 00:15:43,130 --> 00:15:46,210 So now JBL is bleeding all over his shirt. 241 00:15:46,810 --> 00:15:49,810 So JBL slapped him and knocked him out. 242 00:15:51,230 --> 00:15:52,930 He knocked out Michael Hayes. 243 00:15:54,290 --> 00:15:55,290 We're alike. 244 00:15:55,450 --> 00:15:56,450 Holy shit. 245 00:15:57,690 --> 00:15:59,850 That I hear like chanting for Xbox. 246 00:16:00,910 --> 00:16:03,850 Xbox was one of the sweetest guys in the world. He really is. 247 00:16:04,430 --> 00:16:07,010 Jay Strong, but we called him the Trailer Hitch. 248 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,740 So he's always following the big load of Hall and Nash. 249 00:16:11,700 --> 00:16:14,140 I want to know what else to get my hands on Austin. 250 00:16:14,820 --> 00:16:19,260 But he wanted to be accepted so badly and proceed as a main event guy. 251 00:16:20,500 --> 00:16:23,380 Michael Hayes had been burying me in the booking meetings. 252 00:16:23,860 --> 00:16:26,440 He's got that ponytail, that mullet. 253 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:31,540 So as he's out cold, I grabbed that tail and I lifted up my tongue and I just 254 00:16:31,540 --> 00:16:32,540 went whack. 255 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,660 I remember the big pop. 256 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,320 It was like him holding up the title, but he had the ponytail. 257 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,560 Back in the day, you were not allowed to sleep on those flights. 258 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,920 You would end up with a shaved eyebrow. 259 00:16:48,380 --> 00:16:52,600 You always had to have one eye open, so to speak, when you're on a plane full of 260 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:53,439 the boys. 261 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,060 I had my hat on, my sunglasses, even though it was nighttime. 262 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,940 You had to wear all that stuff because you didn't know who was coming by with 263 00:17:00,940 --> 00:17:01,940 shaving cream. 264 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,980 If somebody went to lift your shades up, you had a chance of waking up. Or take 265 00:17:05,980 --> 00:17:08,700 your hat off, you have a chance of waking up and kicking out real quick. 266 00:17:12,339 --> 00:17:17,260 The roster is especially on guard for any potential hijinks, finding 267 00:17:17,260 --> 00:17:20,960 in the presence of one of the industry's most legendary pranksters. 268 00:17:21,319 --> 00:17:23,319 What else would you expect from Mr. 269 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,599 Perfect? Kurt, boy, you know he's got a rib. He was one of the best ribbers in 270 00:17:27,599 --> 00:17:28,600 the business. 271 00:17:29,060 --> 00:17:31,340 Ribs started happening once Kurt... 272 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:36,800 came back into the company, Kurt would always play with Brock. 273 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:43,700 Brock was sitting in his chair and Kurt Henning put 274 00:17:43,700 --> 00:17:45,620 shaving cream on his head. 275 00:17:46,060 --> 00:17:48,940 He went splatted on his head. 276 00:17:49,980 --> 00:17:55,760 Next thing I know, Brock is chasing Kurt like a full sprint, you know, like 277 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,140 wham, wham. Brock went right behind him. 278 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,100 and then Brock just swoops him up. 279 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,320 So now you have Brock Lesnar, who's 6 '4", and he's picking up Kurt Henning, 280 00:18:06,380 --> 00:18:11,240 who's about 6 '4". They went into one row, like a bunch of the guys had to 281 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,660 They would go from one side of the piece of lodge and then into the other, and 282 00:18:14,660 --> 00:18:17,800 the overhead bins got broken, and the tables got broken, and the armrests got 283 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:18,800 broken off. 284 00:18:18,820 --> 00:18:22,740 Things started to break, yeah, because they're just so big. Like, I do remember 285 00:18:22,740 --> 00:18:26,720 one of the seats, like the middles of the seat came completely off. 286 00:18:28,580 --> 00:18:31,820 And as a safety professional, there's not a damn thing I can do to stop these 287 00:18:31,820 --> 00:18:32,459 two men. 288 00:18:32,460 --> 00:18:34,380 There's not a damn thing I can do to get them to hear my voice. 289 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,980 One of the wrestlers had commandeered our PA. 290 00:18:38,380 --> 00:18:41,460 So in the middle of the fight going on, we have someone yelling into the 291 00:18:41,460 --> 00:18:43,100 airplane, we're going to die, we're all going to die. 292 00:18:43,700 --> 00:18:47,060 So here comes one of the pilots at the back of the airplane trying to get these 293 00:18:47,060 --> 00:18:51,540 two men to stop slamming each other against the fuselage. And they wouldn't 294 00:18:51,540 --> 00:18:52,780 listen to him. 295 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,980 One of our illustrious agents said, you need to come back here. 296 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,320 So I go back there, and they're play fighting. 297 00:19:01,620 --> 00:19:03,860 It's just they're play fighting in the emergency exit room. 298 00:19:05,900 --> 00:19:10,220 Brock picks Kurt up, and then they hit the emergency door. 299 00:19:11,180 --> 00:19:13,000 This was a big boom. 300 00:19:14,060 --> 00:19:16,860 Everyone jumped up, and we're like, stop, stop. 301 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,520 It was their own teammates that finally got to stop because they were scared. 302 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,440 I'm not a mechanical engineer. I don't know what all it takes to pop that 303 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:25,440 security door. 304 00:19:25,820 --> 00:19:28,380 But I didn't want to find out at 30 ,000 feet above the air. 305 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,000 You have all these people, could you imagine what happens if that door 306 00:19:32,740 --> 00:19:36,840 If you think about it, it's physically impossible to open that door. 307 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,520 They would have no idea of knowing the door couldn't pop out. 308 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,780 They were throwing each other against the fuselage, and if that fuselage 309 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,280 the airplane gets depressurized. Now you're doing an emergency landing, and 310 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,580 where are you going to land if you're over the Atlantic? 311 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,720 The weight and the size that they are of wrestlers, I mean, they could go 312 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,080 through a wall in a house. Why couldn't they go through a wall in an airplane? 313 00:19:55,770 --> 00:19:59,770 Because just the banging, you know, Brock is so big. 314 00:20:00,510 --> 00:20:06,510 He was just a big, solid, big bear is right, man. He was a solid boy, young. 315 00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:09,910 He was getting a big push. 316 00:20:10,150 --> 00:20:16,810 Brock was very new to the business, and he exposed himself to me at the 317 00:20:16,810 --> 00:20:19,750 insurrection pay -per -view like a real dick. 318 00:20:20,410 --> 00:20:23,430 I remember that night I was doing interviews. 319 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,000 and Jackie in a tag team match. 320 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,240 I was backstage. 321 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,200 I hear my name called. 322 00:20:31,260 --> 00:20:33,220 And Brock was in this room. 323 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,240 Dustin was in the room. My ex -husband at the time. 324 00:20:37,660 --> 00:20:39,680 And Brock did the whole thing. 325 00:20:40,940 --> 00:20:46,720 I no -sold it. Went to my dressing room. Dustin came in. He's like, don't sell 326 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,280 it. I'm like, I'm not selling it. I didn't sell it. Not gonna. 327 00:20:51,220 --> 00:20:53,520 In other words, let it lie. Leave it alone. 328 00:20:57,770 --> 00:21:00,530 I had complaints about Brock Ledger's behavior on the plane. 329 00:21:03,390 --> 00:21:10,370 But I don't recall any advances or reported advances from 330 00:21:10,370 --> 00:21:13,070 Brock to Terry Reynolds. 331 00:21:13,810 --> 00:21:16,630 Could it have happened? Of course it could have happened. 332 00:21:17,450 --> 00:21:18,450 It could have happened. 333 00:21:19,830 --> 00:21:23,910 I did my job to the best of my ability to look out for the talent. 334 00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:26,310 I can't follow everybody around. 335 00:21:26,860 --> 00:21:28,220 to see if they're acting like an adult. 336 00:21:28,620 --> 00:21:30,360 That should not be my job. 337 00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:32,440 It really shouldn't. 338 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:45,700 After the terrifying brawl at 30 ,000 feet, the passengers try to settle in as 339 00:21:45,700 --> 00:21:51,120 the WWF roster is due to perform on live television the following day. 340 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,440 We've got TV tomorrow. 341 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,480 You know, it's like, let's get some rest now. 342 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,000 I'm leaning against the window, you know, sleeping. 343 00:21:58,300 --> 00:22:02,880 And all of a sudden, I hear this very familiar voice. 344 00:22:03,940 --> 00:22:10,740 And Dustin, my ex -husband, starts singing a David Allen Coe song 345 00:22:10,740 --> 00:22:12,300 called Pledging My Love. 346 00:22:13,300 --> 00:22:16,100 Forever, my darling, my love will be true. 347 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,040 Always and forever, I'll love only you. 348 00:22:19,780 --> 00:22:21,560 I immediately am like... 349 00:22:22,929 --> 00:22:27,130 Mortified. Everyone that's just drifted off to sleep is now woken up by, yeah. 350 00:22:29,550 --> 00:22:32,250 I was about to get up and go back there and tell him to stop. 351 00:22:32,750 --> 00:22:36,670 But Polly was across the aisle, and he looked at me. He's like, 352 00:22:38,230 --> 00:22:40,190 don't tell it. Don't tell it. 353 00:22:40,830 --> 00:22:41,890 So I left it alone. 354 00:22:42,810 --> 00:22:46,730 It seems like whenever somebody does something to you, people say don't tell 355 00:22:46,730 --> 00:22:47,489 Don't tell it. 356 00:22:47,490 --> 00:22:51,190 Because that's just the smartest way to deal with our business. 357 00:22:51,850 --> 00:22:52,850 Don't tell her. 358 00:22:54,070 --> 00:22:57,710 If Dustin could sing, it would have made it a little bit easier. 359 00:22:59,050 --> 00:23:00,770 But he couldn't carry a tune in a bucket. 360 00:23:01,530 --> 00:23:03,290 I did not like his behavior. 361 00:23:03,750 --> 00:23:07,690 I generally felt for the guy in the sense he was obviously hurting, you 362 00:23:07,810 --> 00:23:09,110 That pain was real. 363 00:23:09,730 --> 00:23:11,590 No, I don't like to see anyone hurting like that. 364 00:23:11,910 --> 00:23:16,730 However, he still should have given me my microphone back. 365 00:23:17,130 --> 00:23:18,170 It got uncomfortable. 366 00:23:18,430 --> 00:23:19,430 It got uncomfortable. 367 00:23:20,500 --> 00:23:22,540 Like, you know, J .R. had to stop that. 368 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,120 You know, he literally went up to Dustin and said, Set your ass down. 369 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,560 Go to sleep. 370 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,220 You know, give us all a break. 371 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,780 Eventually he passed out. That's how we got our PA back. 372 00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:38,120 He fell asleep, and I got the microphone from him. 373 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,340 If I was a flight attendant, to be on that flight that night would have been 374 00:23:43,340 --> 00:23:45,880 probably one of the worst experiences of my career. 375 00:23:46,330 --> 00:23:50,950 Some young ladies just trying to do their job and just trying to get home. 376 00:23:51,250 --> 00:23:55,450 You know, I could imagine it being very disheartening for them and scary in some 377 00:23:55,450 --> 00:23:56,450 ways, I'm sure. 378 00:23:58,630 --> 00:24:03,430 Hours into the flight, the midair chaos shows no signs of slowing down. 379 00:24:04,630 --> 00:24:09,770 There's another situation that occurred with Ric Flair for me that was very 380 00:24:09,770 --> 00:24:10,770 uncomfortable. 381 00:24:12,030 --> 00:24:14,350 Sometimes as a joke, Ric Flair. 382 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:21,220 He would put on his robe, not wear anything else, and walk that aisle like 383 00:24:21,220 --> 00:24:23,560 Flair and then open it up and woo. 384 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,820 That's the big high spot. Everyone wanted to see Ric coming out naked in 385 00:24:27,820 --> 00:24:32,840 robe, so he did it on the airplane for everybody. And that's what the guys want 386 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,280 to see. That's what makes them laugh. 387 00:24:35,220 --> 00:24:40,860 He could move his hips and twirl it, and so his well -endowed penis 388 00:24:40,860 --> 00:24:43,700 spins around like a helicopter. 389 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,180 So, hey, he's the nature boy for a reason. He's got a hammer on him. 390 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,120 He's the life of the party. 391 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:57,920 And if you know him, you know where to exit the party and 392 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,540 go to your own safe place. 393 00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:05,780 Or you don't know the rules and you find yourself in deep water. 394 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,320 And that may have happened. 395 00:25:09,580 --> 00:25:10,800 And I was in the galley. 396 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,140 The galleys were our little kitchen area on an airplane. 397 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,820 Rick Fleur was naked in a cape only, and then he decided to come back to the 398 00:25:19,820 --> 00:25:22,660 galley to get a coke, and then he wouldn't leave the galley. 399 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:28,940 He had me back against the back door, and I couldn't move. 400 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,280 I couldn't get away from him. I couldn't move. 401 00:25:35,340 --> 00:25:40,640 He was spitting around his penis, and he wanted me to touch it, and he took my 402 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,980 hand. And put it on him. 403 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:52,560 Ric Flair is not going to try to impose by force any sexual stuff on 404 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:53,800 to anybody. 405 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,940 He's just flaunting the style and profile and doing like the Ric Flair 406 00:25:59,940 --> 00:26:02,960 where everybody's going to laugh about it. 407 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,240 But obviously someone took offense to it. 408 00:26:08,010 --> 00:26:12,830 I remember him crowding the flight attendant, like in the aisle way back 409 00:26:12,830 --> 00:26:16,230 by the bathroom where it's like real skinny and you can't fit two people 410 00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:20,630 there and stuff. I remember him like crowding her and, you know, trying to 411 00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:21,830 her touch him and stuff. 412 00:26:22,690 --> 00:26:26,930 And he kept me back there for, I don't know how long, but it felt like a really 413 00:26:26,930 --> 00:26:29,030 long time. It wasn't short, like it was minutes. 414 00:26:30,810 --> 00:26:33,450 And I asked him to please stop and he didn't, he wouldn't. 415 00:26:39,150 --> 00:26:43,350 I don't remember somebody really helping me except for one, I believe, Gold 416 00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:45,850 Dust, who had the mic. 417 00:26:46,490 --> 00:26:50,930 I do believe he told Rick Flair he should leave me alone eventually. 418 00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:52,830 He should leave me alone. 419 00:26:53,130 --> 00:26:58,210 And maybe that's why I didn't get as angry about the mic as maybe I should 420 00:26:58,550 --> 00:27:02,030 I think he did try to help me, and he was the only one that did. 421 00:27:11,470 --> 00:27:14,690 Let's talk about Scott Hall for a second. What's his state at this point? 422 00:27:15,710 --> 00:27:17,810 Scott's issues have been well documented. 423 00:27:18,410 --> 00:27:19,410 He's documented. 424 00:27:20,170 --> 00:27:22,990 He had issues with substance abuse. 425 00:27:23,970 --> 00:27:27,870 We were not doing him any favors putting him back on the road so he could resume 426 00:27:27,870 --> 00:27:29,030 his routines. 427 00:27:30,350 --> 00:27:31,570 We didn't do him justice. 428 00:27:31,910 --> 00:27:33,710 But we didn't know how bad it was. 429 00:27:35,730 --> 00:27:40,250 And for those that think we should have known, well... 430 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,520 We didn't. 431 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,760 You don't know until you see it. 432 00:27:44,980 --> 00:27:46,320 You interact with it. 433 00:27:47,860 --> 00:27:49,400 We weren't quite close to landing. 434 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,340 And I came to Scott Hall, who had just woken up. 435 00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:59,760 I had offered him breakfast, and he grabbed my shirt and 436 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,940 pulled me down, and my shirt buttons got ripped. 437 00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:06,580 And he had told me what he was going to do to me. 438 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,300 Do you remember what he said? 439 00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:15,000 He said a number of things, but other what I do remember is as my shirt 440 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,160 he told me he was going to lick me. 441 00:28:17,180 --> 00:28:23,560 And then he proceeded to try to do that, which... I don't want to say scary 442 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,900 because that might sound too dramatic, but it was a moment of great... 443 00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:34,680 ..violation, discomfort to have a person put 444 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,900 their hands on you without you wanting them to do that and to not let go when 445 00:28:38,900 --> 00:28:39,900 you ask them to. 446 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,040 And to create a level of fear when you're there to do a job, and you're 447 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,100 your job, and now you have to be afraid that you're going to get hurt. 448 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,480 It didn't feel to me that he was going to let go anytime soon. 449 00:28:53,020 --> 00:28:54,080 And then he passed out. 450 00:28:54,740 --> 00:28:59,400 And I was able to, you know, dislodge him from me. 451 00:29:01,020 --> 00:29:03,500 I think that Kurt age -bombed me. 452 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,360 Because I've been taking pills and drinking for a lot of years at that 453 00:29:07,380 --> 00:29:08,380 and I was out. 454 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,520 After that happened with Scott Hall, I never left the galley. 455 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,680 I didn't serve anyone. 456 00:29:16,020 --> 00:29:19,800 And they got angry at me for that. They wanted more food and drinks, and I was 457 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,380 done. I didn't come out of the galley again. 458 00:29:28,140 --> 00:29:33,100 After spending a total of 14 nightmarish hours on the plane, the weary 459 00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:36,720 passengers and crew finally touched down on American soil. 460 00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:38,680 When they landed and I heard the door open, 461 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,560 Yeah. It was a very, very excellent feeling to not be over the Atlantic 462 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,400 And it was a long flight. It was a very long flight. 463 00:29:47,580 --> 00:29:49,140 The plane was trashed. 464 00:29:50,020 --> 00:29:53,800 Blankets, pillows, drinks, cups, food stepped on. 465 00:29:54,420 --> 00:29:58,920 In a normal flight, they're passing by three or four times with trash bags and 466 00:29:58,920 --> 00:29:59,759 this and that. 467 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:05,180 Well, this wasn't a normal flight, so I think Scott was passed out. I think they 468 00:30:05,180 --> 00:30:07,180 were actually worried he was dead, you know. 469 00:30:07,660 --> 00:30:11,120 So they were all stressed, like they got a dead person on this flight now, and 470 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:17,620 like, oh, boy, don't worry, he'll kick out. You know, it's like, he'll kick 471 00:30:17,860 --> 00:30:19,080 He wouldn't wake up. 472 00:30:19,820 --> 00:30:25,680 So I'm picking him up, and I had to get him a wheelchair and literally take him 473 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,680 through customs myself. 474 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:32,360 I put the sunglasses on him, laid him there, and he's just kind of, you know. 475 00:30:33,420 --> 00:30:37,980 I had to get his passport, had to say that he had some kind of condition. 476 00:30:39,220 --> 00:30:44,420 And there I am wheeling Razor through, you know, customs. 477 00:30:44,780 --> 00:30:46,160 And there's Jim Ross. 478 00:30:46,940 --> 00:30:52,940 He had the black hat on and just looking at me with disgust. And I'm like, I'm 479 00:30:52,940 --> 00:30:54,280 here. I'm wheeling him. 480 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,880 I didn't do anything. 481 00:30:56,260 --> 00:31:01,740 Once we landed, Michael Hayes woke up and his ponytail was missing. 482 00:31:02,860 --> 00:31:06,000 And Michael Hayes was pissed off about it. 483 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,880 He was hell -bent to find out who did it. You know who did it, you know who 484 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,000 it. Would have fought the entire plane if he could have. 485 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,420 He was really angry. 486 00:31:16,740 --> 00:31:17,740 He was really angry. 487 00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:30,020 And when we landed, we started to pick up the airplane, and there was vomit, 488 00:31:30,020 --> 00:31:31,020 there was blood. 489 00:31:32,149 --> 00:31:35,390 There was syringes found in seat back pockets in other places. 490 00:31:35,650 --> 00:31:37,650 And I'm going, oh, no, we're not cleaning this airplane. 491 00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:39,750 We're going to get off right now. 492 00:31:40,030 --> 00:31:43,270 And my superior is saying, no, you need to clean the airplane. 493 00:31:45,370 --> 00:31:46,850 Me just walking off the airplane. 494 00:31:47,910 --> 00:31:50,490 That happened on Delta or American or whatever. 495 00:31:52,330 --> 00:31:57,730 When we got back to the States, the FBI would have been waiting on us. 496 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,340 They should have been more repercussions, for sure. They should 497 00:32:01,340 --> 00:32:07,140 some... I don't know. They did have repercussions. I learned later, but... 498 00:32:07,140 --> 00:32:09,840 were only, I think, because they knew they had to do something, you know. 499 00:32:10,340 --> 00:32:13,440 It didn't look real good for Vince McMahon's organization, I don't think. 500 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,020 For better or for worse, I'm taking ownership. 501 00:32:18,180 --> 00:32:20,960 But it was a... It was a black eye. 502 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,160 Good thing about a black eye. 503 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,320 You heal. 504 00:32:34,110 --> 00:32:38,410 Shortly after landing, Vince McMahon and Jim Ross urgently meet to discuss 505 00:32:38,410 --> 00:32:41,890 repercussions for the flight's most egregious acts. 506 00:32:42,350 --> 00:32:46,170 I just couldn't believe everything was getting out of control with Vince on the 507 00:32:46,170 --> 00:32:48,690 flight. But it did. It got out of control. 508 00:32:49,130 --> 00:32:52,110 I don't know. I don't know what Vince was doing during this whole time. 509 00:32:52,330 --> 00:32:53,610 I wonder what. 510 00:32:54,390 --> 00:32:55,710 Vince was well aware of it. 511 00:32:55,970 --> 00:32:57,790 But it was my job to handle. 512 00:32:59,510 --> 00:33:01,530 That's why I'm still embarrassed about it this very day. 513 00:33:01,990 --> 00:33:03,390 It was my job. 514 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:04,840 Two -hand them. 515 00:33:05,340 --> 00:33:10,120 Vince McMahon makes the decisions, but Jim Ross is the one who has to execute 516 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,280 them. Jim Ross is the guy who has to fire you as well. 517 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,400 Jim Ross is the guy who has to tell you, hey, you're messing up. He's the guy 518 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,400 who has to fine you. 519 00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:18,480 That's that position. 520 00:33:19,820 --> 00:33:25,740 It wasn't a tough decision on my part to cut some guys from the roster because 521 00:33:25,740 --> 00:33:27,320 that's what Vince McMahon told me to do. 522 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,860 And the guy that writes the checks has the last say. 523 00:33:32,620 --> 00:33:34,760 I was troubled by Kirk firing. 524 00:33:35,780 --> 00:33:37,700 I just thought he had a bad night with the boys. 525 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:45,220 He had a reputation of becoming a practical joker, and Vince had enough of 526 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,460 And you kind of figure maybe, okay, Kirk got fired, but then he's going to come 527 00:33:49,460 --> 00:33:52,800 back and circle his way around at some point, which he would have, I'm sure. 528 00:33:53,540 --> 00:33:57,520 But he passed away not too far after that. 529 00:33:58,300 --> 00:34:02,380 And Razor, I think it was just his drug addiction that kind of made me, His 530 00:34:02,380 --> 00:34:06,080 career kind of slipped away there. 531 00:34:06,460 --> 00:34:11,600 We let Scott go within hours after he got back to the States. 532 00:34:13,139 --> 00:34:15,420 I was told to cut him now. 533 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,179 And so I called him at home and, you know, I just said, I think we made a 534 00:34:20,179 --> 00:34:22,699 mistake. You're not ready to get back on the road. 535 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,199 And until you're better suited to handle your demons, we need to put you back in 536 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:29,860 your comfort zone, which meant at home primarily. 537 00:34:31,980 --> 00:34:35,280 Dustin Rhodes is one of my favorite people in the world. 538 00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:36,900 We go back a long way. 539 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,860 I don't know if it was just the rebound of his divorce with Terry, what it was, 540 00:34:41,980 --> 00:34:43,920 but he was in a tough place. 541 00:34:45,260 --> 00:34:46,800 But no excuse. 542 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:53,760 So, you know, he was dipping his snuff and using the seat back cushion as a 543 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,760 spittoon. 544 00:34:56,340 --> 00:34:57,360 I had two options. 545 00:34:57,700 --> 00:34:59,980 Find him, then I'll get his attention. 546 00:35:01,450 --> 00:35:02,450 Or firing. 547 00:35:03,850 --> 00:35:07,550 Which I thought was extreme and did not need to happen. 548 00:35:08,030 --> 00:35:09,110 That was my call. 549 00:35:10,190 --> 00:35:11,890 He learned from his mistakes. 550 00:35:12,110 --> 00:35:13,110 He was immature. 551 00:35:13,350 --> 00:35:15,130 He had substance abuse issues. 552 00:35:16,330 --> 00:35:19,790 And sometimes he controlled them and sometimes he didn't. 553 00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:26,730 But the bottom line is that we have to stop in our society letting other 554 00:35:26,730 --> 00:35:29,030 transgressions go without punishment. 555 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,820 How did that Ric Flair evade any sort of suspension or anything like that? 556 00:35:41,380 --> 00:35:42,380 Good question. 557 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:50,240 I guess, to lack of a better term, he was a made man. 558 00:35:53,140 --> 00:35:59,200 And he was such a high -level made man that he got a pass. 559 00:36:01,230 --> 00:36:03,070 Was it the right thing to do? I don't know. 560 00:36:04,250 --> 00:36:06,530 You're listening to it, folks. You decide. 561 00:36:07,690 --> 00:36:08,690 You got to pass. 562 00:36:10,810 --> 00:36:16,190 As the WWF deals with the fallout from the flight, Heidi is forced to consider 563 00:36:16,190 --> 00:36:17,190 her next steps. 564 00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:21,950 I remember walking off the airplane on the tarmac, and we went to a hotel that 565 00:36:21,950 --> 00:36:27,690 was quite nearby and talking about how horrible, like, and the girl from the 566 00:36:27,690 --> 00:36:30,360 front saying, They didn't know that it was that bad. 567 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,700 And then I just went to my hotel room and I took a shower and I cried. 568 00:36:38,460 --> 00:36:42,600 I called Sportsjet. They said it was unfortunate that that had occurred on 569 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,140 airplane. They preferred that we kept it to ourselves, the story, because we 570 00:36:46,140 --> 00:36:48,420 work with professional athletes and things happen on airplanes. 571 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:55,220 And they let us know that it was expected that we would respect the 572 00:36:55,220 --> 00:36:56,220 our clients. 573 00:36:58,700 --> 00:37:02,480 So then you have to figure out how you tell your husband, how was your trip? 574 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:03,760 Well, it wasn't excellent. 575 00:37:04,780 --> 00:37:05,900 What do you tell your husband? 576 00:37:07,260 --> 00:37:13,240 It can even create situations where they say, well, why did that happen to you? 577 00:37:13,260 --> 00:37:16,700 Or what did you do to make them do that to you? 578 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,300 And I would say that might be the worst question you could ever ask somebody 579 00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:21,300 who's been hurt. 580 00:37:21,780 --> 00:37:25,900 Because you already feel a sense of, what did I do? Did I smile? 581 00:37:26,180 --> 00:37:27,680 Was I too nice to him? 582 00:37:28,570 --> 00:37:31,830 And then you feel almost like you've done something wrong. 583 00:37:33,170 --> 00:37:34,170 When I hadn't. 584 00:37:37,710 --> 00:37:40,790 But I know another girl, there was another girl on the flight that was very 585 00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:43,810 upset about things that had, similar things that had occurred to her. 586 00:37:45,790 --> 00:37:50,310 She went to a lawyer and then she contacted me and said I should do that 587 00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:51,310 well. 588 00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:56,750 If I filed a lawsuit for every time something like that happened to me, dear 589 00:37:56,750 --> 00:38:03,290 God. I would be in court for all my adult life. My sense of it was 590 00:38:03,290 --> 00:38:08,830 that the company wanted to address this matter, 591 00:38:09,290 --> 00:38:16,050 take it off our books, do the right thing by those 592 00:38:16,050 --> 00:38:19,090 that had complaints, and then move on. 593 00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:25,410 There was an agreement that was reached, and they offered us a settlement. 594 00:38:26,780 --> 00:38:31,020 My husband just didn't want the story told to the public, maybe just to 595 00:38:31,020 --> 00:38:33,720 our daughter or him. I don't know. 596 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,600 So he was very, very supportive of the settlement. 597 00:38:37,380 --> 00:38:39,400 It's sad that money has to be that compensation. 598 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:45,360 I think definitely truth and honesty and change is more powerful, but money is 599 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,820 what ends up on the table, I think. 600 00:38:48,340 --> 00:38:53,460 And then it also buys you silence, which then can add to another layer of the 601 00:38:53,460 --> 00:38:54,460 guilt of a victim. 602 00:38:55,230 --> 00:38:59,610 It can be a cycle that's not good, yeah, perpetually bad. 603 00:39:00,270 --> 00:39:06,230 If that's how she felt, maybe she should have not taken a payout and went to the 604 00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:10,790 fullest extent of the law to then truly put this heinous person in jail. 605 00:39:12,110 --> 00:39:13,110 My opinion. 606 00:39:13,730 --> 00:39:18,430 People have their own opinions of what happened, what the damage was. No one 607 00:39:18,430 --> 00:39:21,710 should really have a bad opinion when it didn't happen to them, but they do. 608 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,020 It's like, you know, it wasn't that bad. You're okay, aren't you? 609 00:39:25,540 --> 00:39:29,760 And now you have to live with a pain or a memory of something that you didn't 610 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,900 bring about. And that takes some work. 611 00:39:38,860 --> 00:39:44,640 After the exhausting European tour, wrestlers and management report for a 612 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,220 taping of Monday Night Raw a mere 24 hours after the plane touchdown in 613 00:39:49,220 --> 00:39:51,040 Connecticut. We had TV that day. 614 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,820 Monday. Of course, the talents. 615 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,020 AJR. AJR. 616 00:39:56,860 --> 00:39:57,860 What? 617 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,100 Did you see what they did to Hayes' ponytail? 618 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,000 No. What? 619 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:11,360 Michael Hayes' ponytail was put into a sandwich bag that was taped to the 620 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,180 room door at Raw Monday. 621 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:14,960 Until I saw it. 622 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,280 And I took it down and threw it away. 623 00:40:18,850 --> 00:40:23,750 Exposure of these scandalous events would mark a turning point for the WWF, 624 00:40:23,930 --> 00:40:27,410 propelling it to rein in the public antics of its performers. 625 00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:32,790 In a symbolic twist of fate, the aftermath of the infamous plane ride 626 00:40:32,790 --> 00:40:37,770 coincided on the same day the company was legally forced to rebrand its 627 00:40:37,770 --> 00:40:38,770 identity. 628 00:40:39,510 --> 00:40:45,310 The young talents coming in the business after that era heard all the stories, 629 00:40:45,490 --> 00:40:46,570 saw the remnants. 630 00:40:47,370 --> 00:40:51,870 Saw guys that had made millions of dollars not have two quarters rubbed 631 00:40:51,870 --> 00:40:52,870 together. 632 00:40:53,550 --> 00:40:56,750 And I think they learned from their predecessors. 633 00:41:00,510 --> 00:41:01,510 Nice job. 634 00:41:02,590 --> 00:41:03,810 It's a different culture. 635 00:41:05,210 --> 00:41:06,250 It's a different era. 636 00:41:06,910 --> 00:41:09,010 I think that's the upshot. 637 00:41:09,250 --> 00:41:15,170 And maybe good news, that incidents like the plane ride from hell smartened some 638 00:41:15,170 --> 00:41:16,170 of these younger kids up. 639 00:41:16,970 --> 00:41:21,210 I want to be in the wrestling business. I've always idolized this guy. But I do 640 00:41:21,210 --> 00:41:25,170 know I'm not going to pattern some of my career after this guy. 641 00:41:26,370 --> 00:41:28,130 You make good choices that way. 642 00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:35,150 I think that there's definitely a sense of that cliche, never meet your heroes. 643 00:41:36,370 --> 00:41:41,850 The people who have watched for generations and got them through their 644 00:41:42,460 --> 00:41:47,300 I don't think that they all need to see Ric Flair doing the helicopter with his 645 00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:54,140 penis. Like, I don't really think it's good for everybody to know this about 646 00:41:54,140 --> 00:41:58,040 their heroes, you know? Some of these guys are freaks. 647 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,280 I feel this is trying to portray someone as this sexual predator, and it's not. 648 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,140 It's a joke, it's a gag. 649 00:42:04,860 --> 00:42:08,480 And today, 1 ,000 %... 650 00:42:09,180 --> 00:42:13,520 My hairstyle is inappropriate right now. I am somehow offending someone right 651 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:18,260 now with my double ponytail. How dare I have two ponytails? And my answer is I'm 652 00:42:18,260 --> 00:42:19,700 50 years old. I'm happy I have hair. 653 00:42:20,540 --> 00:42:25,120 But if you're asking me, I've hung out with Ric Flair. I've never seen him try 654 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,660 to force his will against anybody. 655 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,900 I don't feel that his intent was to rape me. 656 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,880 But what he did was wrong. It was wrong. 657 00:42:37,180 --> 00:42:41,100 He goes to sleep that night and thinks he made it back from his wrestling trip 658 00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:44,040 in Europe and maybe he has a headache because he had too many cocktails on the 659 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,040 airplane. 660 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,800 And yet, that night I didn't go to sleep. 661 00:42:49,980 --> 00:42:55,080 My trip to work, my trip to get money to support my daughter becomes a memory 662 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,820 that is mine forever to live with. Like, I get to live with the fact that I had 663 00:42:58,820 --> 00:43:02,380 to see a naked man and get my face licked by a man that I was there to make 664 00:43:02,380 --> 00:43:03,820 he got from point A to point B safe. 665 00:43:04,980 --> 00:43:06,560 And they went to sleep in five. 666 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,520 They made it home safe and sound and so goes on the world, you know. 667 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,000 I was uncomfortable coming to talk about this. 668 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,720 You see some stories get told and then people get ridiculed or everything 669 00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:21,900 apart as what they did wrong when they're just telling the story. 670 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:29,520 But if one person that listens to this says, oh my gosh, I might have acted 671 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,520 that towards somebody and I didn't even realize I did it. 672 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,820 Or if one person hears it, they had something happen to them. 673 00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:39,270 that they didn't like it and they didn't feel they could speak about it because 674 00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:42,650 they'd get in trouble or they were made to feel that they created the situation 675 00:43:42,650 --> 00:43:43,670 and might have made it happen. 676 00:43:43,950 --> 00:43:47,650 Like if it could change it for one person, I'd sit and have this 677 00:43:47,650 --> 00:43:48,790 times again. 678 00:43:49,730 --> 00:43:55,250 The truth can be scary and the truth can be ugly and messy, but at the end of 679 00:43:55,250 --> 00:43:58,030 the day, the truth is the thing that makes us better. 59038

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