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After a sellout European tour, the World
Wrestling Federation's top stars in
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management boarded a private 757 jet in
London to return home.
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Every seat on the plane was a first
-class seat.
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It cost us a lot of money, but it made
it more convenient for the talent to
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travel.
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What was supposed to be a triumphant
flight in decadence descended into a
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nightmare at 30 ,000 feet.
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The party starts when you get on them
plates and you just start drinking.
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But that night, it was too much.
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When you have an open bar and you're
sitting there for seven hours, of course
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these things are going to happen.
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Naked men with robes, guys passing out,
drinking, busting each other open,
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cutting ponytails off.
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Sounds like hell to me.
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Like, I just knew, okay, the boys are
being boys and I'm not going back there
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all. I remember thinking, like, is
somebody going to say that this has gone
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far?
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The talent was just crazy.
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I mean, they were great guys, don't get
me wrong.
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They act like asses.
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Children. The mid -air collision between
intoxicated wrestlers and a flight crew
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determined to prevent an all -out
disaster would erupt into one of
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most infamous scandals.
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I think people have no idea what really
goes on sometimes, especially back then
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in pro wrestling. And this is just like
a capsule of what pro wrestling was like
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in that era.
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It was just a normal occurrence for a
crazy bunch of wrestlers on a plane.
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Seems like a crazy story to probably
everyone who is watching this outside of
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professional wrestlers.
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I never talked about the plane ride from
hell again in my life.
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I would be very happy.
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The deal is finalized with WCW.
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However, the contract reads Shane
McMahon.
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By the early 2000s, the WWF is riding a
wave of unprecedented success with a
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roster of breakout stars and fellow
crowds across the world.
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Business was going really well for the
WWE.
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Selling tickets, pay -per -view buy
rates. Everybody was making money.
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The crowds were there every night you
sell a house. Everywhere you go, Europe,
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the state, Canada, and everything.
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I mean, our show was booming.
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During this surge in popularity...
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CEO Vince McMahon acquires his
competitors WCW and ECW, consolidating
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industry's biggest players into an
undisputed monopoly of the wrestling
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I, Vince McMahon, bought my competition.
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The bubble had burst in wrestling. There
was literally the WWE, nothing else. If
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you want to make a full -time living in
professional wrestling, it was the only
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place to be.
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My name is Tommy Dreamer, and I'm known
as the innovator of violence.
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It was a much different time. There was
holdovers from ECW and WCW, and we're
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all just trying to find our way into
WWE.
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You've got to wonder how long he had
been planning this ECW
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assault on the WWF.
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I'm Jim Ross, and I was the vice
president of talent relations.
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My job in a nutshell was the overall
management of the talents that appeared
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television.
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The WWF's roster exploded in size and
stature by securing talent from their
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former rivals while also welcoming back
returning legends.
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There's the nature boy!
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We're partners!
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Blair McMahon are partners!
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Yeah! Ric Flair's a legend.
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So many of our younger guys grew up
watching him, idolizing him, and trying
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take things from Rick's game and add to
theirs.
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So, yeah, having Rick in the locker room
was a positive thing.
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I love my job.
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I love helping build that talent roster.
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Because I think that having those
talents was a great reason, perhaps we
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say the only reason, that the business
went crazy and blew up.
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Everything was getting better.
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Millions of dollars.
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Thanks to the men and the women that
came to work for us on that team.
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As the momentum in the States grew, so
did the momentum in the UK grow.
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In May 2002, the company traveled to
Europe for a four -day tour, concluding
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with a sold -out pay -per -view event in
London.
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It's probably one of the best crowds
when we go overseas. So we're always
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up. We're always looking forward to it.
And to be honest, the pay's pretty good
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when we go overseas because the crowds
are so big. So, yeah, I'd say the morale
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was high, and we were stoked to have
some good times.
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My name is P .J. Polacco, and you may
know me as the hardcore icon Justin
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Credlin.
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Some of the big names on that trip were
certainly Stone Cold Steve Austin, The
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Undertaker was on the flight, Scott
Hall, Kevin Nash.
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Brock Lesnar was on the flight, Ric
Flair was on the flight, and many
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it was a stacked.
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It's a long flight, and we thought that
by chartering a customized
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jet that we were being as talent
-friendly as we could.
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Unfortunately, it didn't work out well.
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My name is Heidi Doyle, and in 2002, I
was a flight attendant on the European
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charter for the WWE.
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I worked for a company called Sports
Jet.
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It was a private airline that flew many
of the different sports teams out of the
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Phoenix area, the Phoenix Suns and the
Phoenix Coyotes. We also flew the Utah
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Jazz and the Mariners.
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A normal commercial Boeing 757 would
have 190 seats, and our flight had 50
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leather seats and a bigger carpet than
I've ever had in my own house.
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There's couches and lounge areas. It's
just not a very bad way to travel.
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It costs a lot to do it privately, but
you also get many benefits. You get to
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order your own food. You know what
you're going to eat. You know you're all
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going to be comfortable.
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You know that you don't have to deal
with anybody of the general public on
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airplane.
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You're just amongst the group that's
your people.
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It's just nice to know that we're not
going to offend anyone.
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Like sometimes when the boys are on
flight and they're a bit obnoxious, it's
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kind of like you go, like, oh gosh, are
we going to, you know.
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Sorry.
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Hi, I'm Terry Reynolds, and I was a
passenger on the plane ride from hell.
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Roll dust along with a woman carrying a
cigar.
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I remember sitting in the first class
section.
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I think Jim Ross was up there, Linda,
and Ben.
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The front had a lounge area, so it was
kind of like your first class of the
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first class, I guess, of the airplanes.
And generally the coaches and the
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managers sat up there. And in this case,
Vince McMahon and his wife, they were
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up there, and then the wrestlers were in
the back.
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So I was in the back with the majority
of the wrestlers.
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My responsibility in the very back was
getting them their drinks, getting the
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meals out to them. They were hungry.
They wanted to try all the different
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that were on the airplane.
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Rick Flair had talked to all of us a
lot. He was very chatty and he was kind
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like the captain of the team, I would
say. He had that kind of feel and he was
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very, very nice and personable to us.
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He was a little flirty, I think.
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99 % of the time we had men. That's who
we were working with. You just had to be
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aware of getting too comfortable, I
think, because that can always just
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situation that different people can have
different thoughts of the level of
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comfortableness.
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But on the flight to Europe, there's no
problem.
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After an uneventful eight -hour flight
across the Atlantic, the charter arrives
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at its first stop on the tour, Cologne,
Germany.
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My name is Rob
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Van Dam, WWE Hall of Famer and the whole
damn show.
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It's cool to see how you affect these
other cultures, you know, and other
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countries. They had some diehard fans,
let me tell you. The
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Germans were very into the WWE, and it
was very, yeah, it was an intense,
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enlightening experience, the match was.
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Our flight attendants, they were with us
almost every day. Some came to the
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shows, some were partying at the hotels.
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with the wrestlers at the bars.
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In the 80s and 90s, these flight
attendants, they kind of would party
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hang out with you in the back, drink
with you.
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Hello, I'm Michael Chioda.
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Worked for the World Wrestling
Entertainment for 35 years.
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WWF referee Mike Chioda!
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Yeah, you used to go out, meet up with
some flight attendants down at the bar.
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They might be staying at the same hotel,
or you'd go to their hotel on a five
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-minute cab ride.
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We went downstairs and had drinks when
the wrestlers came back from the first
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match in Germany.
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We chatted a little bit with them that
first night.
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It was my first trip back to work after
having a baby, and I was so enjoying my
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time resting in my room and getting to
order room service and not have to wake
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up at all hours of the night. But I only
went to the one match in Germany.
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You literally will wrestle in Germany,
and the next day you wake up, you're in
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Scotland. You wake up the next day,
you're in London.
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By the time we got to London, usually
everybody's really stoked. I remember it
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being a Saturday night because that's
when the pay -per -view aired
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traditionally over there. And it was
WWE's pay -per -view insurrection.
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The city of London is on fire!
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This is insurrection!
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It was a packed house, European crowds,
lava.
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All the tickets to this event sold out
in 21 minutes!
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I remember the show being solid. The
talent seemed to be happy with their
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performances.
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and they were even more happy to get
back on the plane and go home.
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Well, I had been away from my daughter
for the first time, and I was more than
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excited. The excitement to return home
is quickly deflated
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as the passengers are delivered
troubling news.
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Everyone took their seats, and we taxied
out onto the tarmac, and we got advised
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that we were on a weather hold from
Connecticut.
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When we were told it was a weather
delay, I bet we probably all thought
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minutes, 40 minutes, an hour top.
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Well, we were delayed for seven hours
before
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the plane takes off.
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So we sat on the tarmac a little while.
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Commercial airlines, you would all be
familiar with the small little mini
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bottles. We had just normal bottles.
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And the liquor cart ran out of alcohol.
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And another liquor cart was ordered at
their request.
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And that was also drank, so that liquor
cart ran out.
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And then a third one was ordered.
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And how common is it to, like, go
through a cart before a plane takes off?
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never ever done it ever before and never
again.
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And we went through three.
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Imagine your varsity football team.
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They've just won a game, except they
can't get out of the parking lot, and
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there's cases and cases of beer.
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That's what it's like.
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A bunch of high school guys.
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To say it's high school is really like
giving it too much. It's more like fifth
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grade. Even though it was their plane,
in a sense, we served the drinks still,
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but that became not the case.
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They started to serve themselves the
drinks, and they didn't want our help.
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I was very concerned about the cuts
being replenished on the ground.
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If they were to try to cut us off, we
would have gotten to that booze.
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Somebody would have.
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Flair probably could have thrown a
couple thousand dollars at them and
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here, take this, we're going to get that
liquor. We would have got the liquor.
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Absolutely.
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I think the relief that they're finally
going home was cause for celebration.
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They only got a small window now.
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They really let their hair down and
become stupid.
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And that's what a lot of them chose to
do.
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After spending several grueling hours
grounded on the tarmac and indulging in
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unlimited supply of alcohol, the
passengers aboard WWF's private charter
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relieved as the jet is finally cleared
for takeoff.
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I don't remember how long we've been up
in the air before.
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It was very, very evident that we had a
lot of drunk people.
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Oh, shoot. The boys, they can get drunk
in one hour.
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When you're doing GHB or pills or
anything like that, Percocets or
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stuff that were around, you can do a lot
of damage, period, in one hour.
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But it was always booze and pills in the
WWE because we had doctor's
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prescriptions. And as long as you had a
doctor's prescription, it was okay. Of
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course, it wasn't because, you know,
we'd have doctors write us whatever we
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wanted.
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Halcyons, GHB, Placidil. Now, the
Placidils, I think, were in the early
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But I know there was some GHB and
Halcyons on the flight. Halcyons were
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that we took sometimes just to go to
sleep for a long period of time.
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And sometimes you use them for a rib
too.
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Way back in the day, it used to be
called H -bombing and it was Halcyon.
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I've seen so many guys dropping these H
-bombs in the drinks in order to get the
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mark to pass out. They shave his head,
you know, whatever they do.
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Girls, local girls, you know, were put
out so the boys could have their way
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them while they're out. I mean, this
was...
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It was kind of normal in some of the
places that I've been.
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Never leave your drink exposed.
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Because the boys think seeing somebody
froth at the mouth and slur their
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they can't stand up, manage their own
faculties. It's funny.
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The story was out that Michael got H
-bombs. What was his role at that point?
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My plays weren't too creative at that
point in time.
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I don't know if he was officially an
agent, a coach, a producer. They've gone
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through several names. They all do the
same thing.
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With the house down in his body. And I
don't know what else could have been in
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there. He was not himself.
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And he made bad decisions.
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Bradshaw had gotten split open the night
of the pay -per -view.
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Oh, yes!
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He did!
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As Bradshaw is sleeping...
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Michael Hayes just knocked him in his
head and reopened the wound.
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So now JBL is bleeding all over his
shirt.
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So JBL slapped him and knocked him out.
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He knocked out Michael Hayes.
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We're alike.
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Holy shit.
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That I hear like chanting for Xbox.
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Xbox was one of the sweetest guys in the
world. He really is.
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Jay Strong, but we called him the
Trailer Hitch.
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So he's always following the big load of
Hall and Nash.
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I want to know what else to get my hands
on Austin.
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But he wanted to be accepted so badly
and proceed as a main event guy.
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Michael Hayes had been burying me in the
booking meetings.
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He's got that ponytail, that mullet.
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So as he's out cold, I grabbed that tail
and I lifted up my tongue and I just
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went whack.
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I remember the big pop.
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It was like him holding up the title,
but he had the ponytail.
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Back in the day, you were not allowed to
sleep on those flights.
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You would end up with a shaved eyebrow.
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You always had to have one eye open, so
to speak, when you're on a plane full of
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the boys.
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I had my hat on, my sunglasses, even
though it was nighttime.
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You had to wear all that stuff because
you didn't know who was coming by with
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shaving cream.
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If somebody went to lift your shades up,
you had a chance of waking up. Or take
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your hat off, you have a chance of
waking up and kicking out real quick.
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The roster is especially on guard for
any potential hijinks, finding
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in the presence of one of the industry's
most legendary pranksters.
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What else would you expect from Mr.
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Perfect? Kurt, boy, you know he's got a
rib. He was one of the best ribbers in
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the business.
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Ribs started happening once Kurt...
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came back into the company, Kurt would
always play with Brock.
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Brock was sitting in his chair and Kurt
Henning put
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shaving cream on his head.
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He went splatted on his head.
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Next thing I know, Brock is chasing Kurt
like a full sprint, you know, like
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wham, wham. Brock went right behind him.
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and then Brock just swoops him up.
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So now you have Brock Lesnar, who's 6
'4", and he's picking up Kurt Henning,
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who's about 6 '4". They went into one
row, like a bunch of the guys had to
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They would go from one side of the piece
of lodge and then into the other, and
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the overhead bins got broken, and the
tables got broken, and the armrests got
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broken off.
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Things started to break, yeah, because
they're just so big. Like, I do remember
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one of the seats, like the middles of
the seat came completely off.
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And as a safety professional, there's
not a damn thing I can do to stop these
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two men.
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There's not a damn thing I can do to get
them to hear my voice.
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One of the wrestlers had commandeered
our PA.
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So in the middle of the fight going on,
we have someone yelling into the
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airplane, we're going to die, we're all
going to die.
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So here comes one of the pilots at the
back of the airplane trying to get these
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two men to stop slamming each other
against the fuselage. And they wouldn't
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listen to him.
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One of our illustrious agents said, you
need to come back here.
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So I go back there, and they're play
fighting.
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It's just they're play fighting in the
emergency exit room.
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Brock picks Kurt up, and then they hit
the emergency door.
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This was a big boom.
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Everyone jumped up, and we're like,
stop, stop.
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It was their own teammates that finally
got to stop because they were scared.
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I'm not a mechanical engineer. I don't
know what all it takes to pop that
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security door.
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But I didn't want to find out at 30 ,000
feet above the air.
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You have all these people, could you
imagine what happens if that door
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If you think about it, it's physically
impossible to open that door.
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They would have no idea of knowing the
door couldn't pop out.
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They were throwing each other against
the fuselage, and if that fuselage
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the airplane gets depressurized. Now
you're doing an emergency landing, and
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where are you going to land if you're
over the Atlantic?
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The weight and the size that they are of
wrestlers, I mean, they could go
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through a wall in a house. Why couldn't
they go through a wall in an airplane?
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Because just the banging, you know,
Brock is so big.
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He was just a big, solid, big bear is
right, man. He was a solid boy, young.
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He was getting a big push.
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Brock was very new to the business, and
he exposed himself to me at the
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insurrection pay -per -view like a real
dick.
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I remember that night I was doing
interviews.
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and Jackie in a tag team match.
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I was backstage.
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I hear my name called.
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And Brock was in this room.
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Dustin was in the room. My ex -husband
at the time.
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And Brock did the whole thing.
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I no -sold it. Went to my dressing room.
Dustin came in. He's like, don't sell
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it. I'm like, I'm not selling it. I
didn't sell it. Not gonna.
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In other words, let it lie. Leave it
alone.
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I had complaints about Brock Ledger's
behavior on the plane.
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But I don't recall any advances or
reported advances from
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Brock to Terry Reynolds.
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Could it have happened? Of course it
could have happened.
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It could have happened.
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I did my job to the best of my ability
to look out for the talent.
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I can't follow everybody around.
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to see if they're acting like an adult.
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That should not be my job.
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It really shouldn't.
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After the terrifying brawl at 30 ,000
feet, the passengers try to settle in as
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the WWF roster is due to perform on live
television the following day.
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We've got TV tomorrow.
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You know, it's like, let's get some rest
now.
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I'm leaning against the window, you
know, sleeping.
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And all of a sudden, I hear this very
familiar voice.
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And Dustin, my ex -husband, starts
singing a David Allen Coe song
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called Pledging My Love.
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Forever, my darling, my love will be
true.
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Always and forever, I'll love only you.
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I immediately am like...
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Mortified. Everyone that's just drifted
off to sleep is now woken up by, yeah.
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I was about to get up and go back there
and tell him to stop.
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But Polly was across the aisle, and he
looked at me. He's like,
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don't tell it. Don't tell it.
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So I left it alone.
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It seems like whenever somebody does
something to you, people say don't tell
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Don't tell it.
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Because that's just the smartest way to
deal with our business.
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Don't tell her.
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If Dustin could sing, it would have made
it a little bit easier.
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But he couldn't carry a tune in a
bucket.
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I did not like his behavior.
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I generally felt for the guy in the
sense he was obviously hurting, you
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That pain was real.
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No, I don't like to see anyone hurting
like that.
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However, he still should have given me
my microphone back.
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It got uncomfortable.
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It got uncomfortable.
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Like, you know, J .R. had to stop that.
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You know, he literally went up to Dustin
and said, Set your ass down.
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Go to sleep.
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You know, give us all a break.
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Eventually he passed out. That's how we
got our PA back.
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He fell asleep, and I got the microphone
from him.
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If I was a flight attendant, to be on
that flight that night would have been
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probably one of the worst experiences of
my career.
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Some young ladies just trying to do
their job and just trying to get home.
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You know, I could imagine it being very
disheartening for them and scary in some
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ways, I'm sure.
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Hours into the flight, the midair chaos
shows no signs of slowing down.
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There's another situation that occurred
with Ric Flair for me that was very
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uncomfortable.
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Sometimes as a joke, Ric Flair.
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He would put on his robe, not wear
anything else, and walk that aisle like
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Flair and then open it up and woo.
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That's the big high spot. Everyone
wanted to see Ric coming out naked in
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robe, so he did it on the airplane for
everybody. And that's what the guys want
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to see. That's what makes them laugh.
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He could move his hips and twirl it, and
so his well -endowed penis
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spins around like a helicopter.
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So, hey, he's the nature boy for a
reason. He's got a hammer on him.
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He's the life of the party.
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And if you know him, you know where to
exit the party and
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go to your own safe place.
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Or you don't know the rules and you find
yourself in deep water.
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And that may have happened.
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And I was in the galley.
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The galleys were our little kitchen area
on an airplane.
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Rick Fleur was naked in a cape only, and
then he decided to come back to the
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galley to get a coke, and then he
wouldn't leave the galley.
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He had me back against the back door,
and I couldn't move.
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I couldn't get away from him. I couldn't
move.
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He was spitting around his penis, and he
wanted me to touch it, and he took my
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hand. And put it on him.
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Ric Flair is not going to try to impose
by force any sexual stuff on
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to anybody.
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He's just flaunting the style and
profile and doing like the Ric Flair
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where everybody's going to laugh about
it.
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But obviously someone took offense to
it.
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I remember him crowding the flight
attendant, like in the aisle way back
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by the bathroom where it's like real
skinny and you can't fit two people
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there and stuff. I remember him like
crowding her and, you know, trying to
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her touch him and stuff.
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And he kept me back there for, I don't
know how long, but it felt like a really
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long time. It wasn't short, like it was
minutes.
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And I asked him to please stop and he
didn't, he wouldn't.
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I don't remember somebody really helping
me except for one, I believe, Gold
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Dust, who had the mic.
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I do believe he told Rick Flair he
should leave me alone eventually.
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He should leave me alone.
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And maybe that's why I didn't get as
angry about the mic as maybe I should
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I think he did try to help me, and he
was the only one that did.
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Let's talk about Scott Hall for a
second. What's his state at this point?
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Scott's issues have been well
documented.
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He's documented.
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He had issues with substance abuse.
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We were not doing him any favors putting
him back on the road so he could resume
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his routines.
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We didn't do him justice.
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But we didn't know how bad it was.
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And for those that think we should have
known, well...
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We didn't.
431
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,760
You don't know until you see it.
432
00:27:44,980 --> 00:27:46,320
You interact with it.
433
00:27:47,860 --> 00:27:49,400
We weren't quite close to landing.
434
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,340
And I came to Scott Hall, who had just
woken up.
435
00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:59,760
I had offered him breakfast, and he
grabbed my shirt and
436
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,940
pulled me down, and my shirt buttons got
ripped.
437
00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:06,580
And he had told me what he was going to
do to me.
438
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,300
Do you remember what he said?
439
00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:15,000
He said a number of things, but other
what I do remember is as my shirt
440
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,160
he told me he was going to lick me.
441
00:28:17,180 --> 00:28:23,560
And then he proceeded to try to do that,
which... I don't want to say scary
442
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,900
because that might sound too dramatic,
but it was a moment of great...
443
00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:34,680
..violation, discomfort to have a person
put
444
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,900
their hands on you without you wanting
them to do that and to not let go when
445
00:28:38,900 --> 00:28:39,900
you ask them to.
446
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,040
And to create a level of fear when
you're there to do a job, and you're
447
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,100
your job, and now you have to be afraid
that you're going to get hurt.
448
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,480
It didn't feel to me that he was going
to let go anytime soon.
449
00:28:53,020 --> 00:28:54,080
And then he passed out.
450
00:28:54,740 --> 00:28:59,400
And I was able to, you know, dislodge
him from me.
451
00:29:01,020 --> 00:29:03,500
I think that Kurt age -bombed me.
452
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,360
Because I've been taking pills and
drinking for a lot of years at that
453
00:29:07,380 --> 00:29:08,380
and I was out.
454
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,520
After that happened with Scott Hall, I
never left the galley.
455
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,680
I didn't serve anyone.
456
00:29:16,020 --> 00:29:19,800
And they got angry at me for that. They
wanted more food and drinks, and I was
457
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,380
done. I didn't come out of the galley
again.
458
00:29:28,140 --> 00:29:33,100
After spending a total of 14 nightmarish
hours on the plane, the weary
459
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:36,720
passengers and crew finally touched down
on American soil.
460
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:38,680
When they landed and I heard the door
open,
461
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,560
Yeah. It was a very, very excellent
feeling to not be over the Atlantic
462
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,400
And it was a long flight. It was a very
long flight.
463
00:29:47,580 --> 00:29:49,140
The plane was trashed.
464
00:29:50,020 --> 00:29:53,800
Blankets, pillows, drinks, cups, food
stepped on.
465
00:29:54,420 --> 00:29:58,920
In a normal flight, they're passing by
three or four times with trash bags and
466
00:29:58,920 --> 00:29:59,759
this and that.
467
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:05,180
Well, this wasn't a normal flight, so I
think Scott was passed out. I think they
468
00:30:05,180 --> 00:30:07,180
were actually worried he was dead, you
know.
469
00:30:07,660 --> 00:30:11,120
So they were all stressed, like they got
a dead person on this flight now, and
470
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:17,620
like, oh, boy, don't worry, he'll kick
out. You know, it's like, he'll kick
471
00:30:17,860 --> 00:30:19,080
He wouldn't wake up.
472
00:30:19,820 --> 00:30:25,680
So I'm picking him up, and I had to get
him a wheelchair and literally take him
473
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,680
through customs myself.
474
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:32,360
I put the sunglasses on him, laid him
there, and he's just kind of, you know.
475
00:30:33,420 --> 00:30:37,980
I had to get his passport, had to say
that he had some kind of condition.
476
00:30:39,220 --> 00:30:44,420
And there I am wheeling Razor through,
you know, customs.
477
00:30:44,780 --> 00:30:46,160
And there's Jim Ross.
478
00:30:46,940 --> 00:30:52,940
He had the black hat on and just looking
at me with disgust. And I'm like, I'm
479
00:30:52,940 --> 00:30:54,280
here. I'm wheeling him.
480
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,880
I didn't do anything.
481
00:30:56,260 --> 00:31:01,740
Once we landed, Michael Hayes woke up
and his ponytail was missing.
482
00:31:02,860 --> 00:31:06,000
And Michael Hayes was pissed off about
it.
483
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,880
He was hell -bent to find out who did
it. You know who did it, you know who
484
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,000
it. Would have fought the entire plane
if he could have.
485
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,420
He was really angry.
486
00:31:16,740 --> 00:31:17,740
He was really angry.
487
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:30,020
And when we landed, we started to pick
up the airplane, and there was vomit,
488
00:31:30,020 --> 00:31:31,020
there was blood.
489
00:31:32,149 --> 00:31:35,390
There was syringes found in seat back
pockets in other places.
490
00:31:35,650 --> 00:31:37,650
And I'm going, oh, no, we're not
cleaning this airplane.
491
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:39,750
We're going to get off right now.
492
00:31:40,030 --> 00:31:43,270
And my superior is saying, no, you need
to clean the airplane.
493
00:31:45,370 --> 00:31:46,850
Me just walking off the airplane.
494
00:31:47,910 --> 00:31:50,490
That happened on Delta or American or
whatever.
495
00:31:52,330 --> 00:31:57,730
When we got back to the States, the FBI
would have been waiting on us.
496
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,340
They should have been more
repercussions, for sure. They should
497
00:32:01,340 --> 00:32:07,140
some... I don't know. They did have
repercussions. I learned later, but...
498
00:32:07,140 --> 00:32:09,840
were only, I think, because they knew
they had to do something, you know.
499
00:32:10,340 --> 00:32:13,440
It didn't look real good for Vince
McMahon's organization, I don't think.
500
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,020
For better or for worse, I'm taking
ownership.
501
00:32:18,180 --> 00:32:20,960
But it was a... It was a black eye.
502
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,160
Good thing about a black eye.
503
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,320
You heal.
504
00:32:34,110 --> 00:32:38,410
Shortly after landing, Vince McMahon and
Jim Ross urgently meet to discuss
505
00:32:38,410 --> 00:32:41,890
repercussions for the flight's most
egregious acts.
506
00:32:42,350 --> 00:32:46,170
I just couldn't believe everything was
getting out of control with Vince on the
507
00:32:46,170 --> 00:32:48,690
flight. But it did. It got out of
control.
508
00:32:49,130 --> 00:32:52,110
I don't know. I don't know what Vince
was doing during this whole time.
509
00:32:52,330 --> 00:32:53,610
I wonder what.
510
00:32:54,390 --> 00:32:55,710
Vince was well aware of it.
511
00:32:55,970 --> 00:32:57,790
But it was my job to handle.
512
00:32:59,510 --> 00:33:01,530
That's why I'm still embarrassed about
it this very day.
513
00:33:01,990 --> 00:33:03,390
It was my job.
514
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:04,840
Two -hand them.
515
00:33:05,340 --> 00:33:10,120
Vince McMahon makes the decisions, but
Jim Ross is the one who has to execute
516
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,280
them. Jim Ross is the guy who has to
fire you as well.
517
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,400
Jim Ross is the guy who has to tell you,
hey, you're messing up. He's the guy
518
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,400
who has to fine you.
519
00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:18,480
That's that position.
520
00:33:19,820 --> 00:33:25,740
It wasn't a tough decision on my part to
cut some guys from the roster because
521
00:33:25,740 --> 00:33:27,320
that's what Vince McMahon told me to do.
522
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,860
And the guy that writes the checks has
the last say.
523
00:33:32,620 --> 00:33:34,760
I was troubled by Kirk firing.
524
00:33:35,780 --> 00:33:37,700
I just thought he had a bad night with
the boys.
525
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:45,220
He had a reputation of becoming a
practical joker, and Vince had enough of
526
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,460
And you kind of figure maybe, okay, Kirk
got fired, but then he's going to come
527
00:33:49,460 --> 00:33:52,800
back and circle his way around at some
point, which he would have, I'm sure.
528
00:33:53,540 --> 00:33:57,520
But he passed away not too far after
that.
529
00:33:58,300 --> 00:34:02,380
And Razor, I think it was just his drug
addiction that kind of made me, His
530
00:34:02,380 --> 00:34:06,080
career kind of slipped away there.
531
00:34:06,460 --> 00:34:11,600
We let Scott go within hours after he
got back to the States.
532
00:34:13,139 --> 00:34:15,420
I was told to cut him now.
533
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,179
And so I called him at home and, you
know, I just said, I think we made a
534
00:34:20,179 --> 00:34:22,699
mistake. You're not ready to get back on
the road.
535
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,199
And until you're better suited to handle
your demons, we need to put you back in
536
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:29,860
your comfort zone, which meant at home
primarily.
537
00:34:31,980 --> 00:34:35,280
Dustin Rhodes is one of my favorite
people in the world.
538
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:36,900
We go back a long way.
539
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,860
I don't know if it was just the rebound
of his divorce with Terry, what it was,
540
00:34:41,980 --> 00:34:43,920
but he was in a tough place.
541
00:34:45,260 --> 00:34:46,800
But no excuse.
542
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:53,760
So, you know, he was dipping his snuff
and using the seat back cushion as a
543
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,760
spittoon.
544
00:34:56,340 --> 00:34:57,360
I had two options.
545
00:34:57,700 --> 00:34:59,980
Find him, then I'll get his attention.
546
00:35:01,450 --> 00:35:02,450
Or firing.
547
00:35:03,850 --> 00:35:07,550
Which I thought was extreme and did not
need to happen.
548
00:35:08,030 --> 00:35:09,110
That was my call.
549
00:35:10,190 --> 00:35:11,890
He learned from his mistakes.
550
00:35:12,110 --> 00:35:13,110
He was immature.
551
00:35:13,350 --> 00:35:15,130
He had substance abuse issues.
552
00:35:16,330 --> 00:35:19,790
And sometimes he controlled them and
sometimes he didn't.
553
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:26,730
But the bottom line is that we have to
stop in our society letting other
554
00:35:26,730 --> 00:35:29,030
transgressions go without punishment.
555
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,820
How did that Ric Flair evade any sort of
suspension or anything like that?
556
00:35:41,380 --> 00:35:42,380
Good question.
557
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:50,240
I guess, to lack of a better term, he
was a made man.
558
00:35:53,140 --> 00:35:59,200
And he was such a high -level made man
that he got a pass.
559
00:36:01,230 --> 00:36:03,070
Was it the right thing to do? I don't
know.
560
00:36:04,250 --> 00:36:06,530
You're listening to it, folks. You
decide.
561
00:36:07,690 --> 00:36:08,690
You got to pass.
562
00:36:10,810 --> 00:36:16,190
As the WWF deals with the fallout from
the flight, Heidi is forced to consider
563
00:36:16,190 --> 00:36:17,190
her next steps.
564
00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:21,950
I remember walking off the airplane on
the tarmac, and we went to a hotel that
565
00:36:21,950 --> 00:36:27,690
was quite nearby and talking about how
horrible, like, and the girl from the
566
00:36:27,690 --> 00:36:30,360
front saying, They didn't know that it
was that bad.
567
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,700
And then I just went to my hotel room
and I took a shower and I cried.
568
00:36:38,460 --> 00:36:42,600
I called Sportsjet. They said it was
unfortunate that that had occurred on
569
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,140
airplane. They preferred that we kept it
to ourselves, the story, because we
570
00:36:46,140 --> 00:36:48,420
work with professional athletes and
things happen on airplanes.
571
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:55,220
And they let us know that it was
expected that we would respect the
572
00:36:55,220 --> 00:36:56,220
our clients.
573
00:36:58,700 --> 00:37:02,480
So then you have to figure out how you
tell your husband, how was your trip?
574
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:03,760
Well, it wasn't excellent.
575
00:37:04,780 --> 00:37:05,900
What do you tell your husband?
576
00:37:07,260 --> 00:37:13,240
It can even create situations where they
say, well, why did that happen to you?
577
00:37:13,260 --> 00:37:16,700
Or what did you do to make them do that
to you?
578
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,300
And I would say that might be the worst
question you could ever ask somebody
579
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:21,300
who's been hurt.
580
00:37:21,780 --> 00:37:25,900
Because you already feel a sense of,
what did I do? Did I smile?
581
00:37:26,180 --> 00:37:27,680
Was I too nice to him?
582
00:37:28,570 --> 00:37:31,830
And then you feel almost like you've
done something wrong.
583
00:37:33,170 --> 00:37:34,170
When I hadn't.
584
00:37:37,710 --> 00:37:40,790
But I know another girl, there was
another girl on the flight that was very
585
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:43,810
upset about things that had, similar
things that had occurred to her.
586
00:37:45,790 --> 00:37:50,310
She went to a lawyer and then she
contacted me and said I should do that
587
00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:51,310
well.
588
00:37:52,150 --> 00:37:56,750
If I filed a lawsuit for every time
something like that happened to me, dear
589
00:37:56,750 --> 00:38:03,290
God. I would be in court for all my
adult life. My sense of it was
590
00:38:03,290 --> 00:38:08,830
that the company wanted to address this
matter,
591
00:38:09,290 --> 00:38:16,050
take it off our books, do the right
thing by those
592
00:38:16,050 --> 00:38:19,090
that had complaints, and then move on.
593
00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:25,410
There was an agreement that was reached,
and they offered us a settlement.
594
00:38:26,780 --> 00:38:31,020
My husband just didn't want the story
told to the public, maybe just to
595
00:38:31,020 --> 00:38:33,720
our daughter or him. I don't know.
596
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,600
So he was very, very supportive of the
settlement.
597
00:38:37,380 --> 00:38:39,400
It's sad that money has to be that
compensation.
598
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:45,360
I think definitely truth and honesty and
change is more powerful, but money is
599
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,820
what ends up on the table, I think.
600
00:38:48,340 --> 00:38:53,460
And then it also buys you silence, which
then can add to another layer of the
601
00:38:53,460 --> 00:38:54,460
guilt of a victim.
602
00:38:55,230 --> 00:38:59,610
It can be a cycle that's not good, yeah,
perpetually bad.
603
00:39:00,270 --> 00:39:06,230
If that's how she felt, maybe she should
have not taken a payout and went to the
604
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:10,790
fullest extent of the law to then truly
put this heinous person in jail.
605
00:39:12,110 --> 00:39:13,110
My opinion.
606
00:39:13,730 --> 00:39:18,430
People have their own opinions of what
happened, what the damage was. No one
607
00:39:18,430 --> 00:39:21,710
should really have a bad opinion when it
didn't happen to them, but they do.
608
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,020
It's like, you know, it wasn't that bad.
You're okay, aren't you?
609
00:39:25,540 --> 00:39:29,760
And now you have to live with a pain or
a memory of something that you didn't
610
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,900
bring about. And that takes some work.
611
00:39:38,860 --> 00:39:44,640
After the exhausting European tour,
wrestlers and management report for a
612
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,220
taping of Monday Night Raw a mere 24
hours after the plane touchdown in
613
00:39:49,220 --> 00:39:51,040
Connecticut. We had TV that day.
614
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,820
Monday. Of course, the talents.
615
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,020
AJR. AJR.
616
00:39:56,860 --> 00:39:57,860
What?
617
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,100
Did you see what they did to Hayes'
ponytail?
618
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,000
No. What?
619
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:11,360
Michael Hayes' ponytail was put into a
sandwich bag that was taped to the
620
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,180
room door at Raw Monday.
621
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:14,960
Until I saw it.
622
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,280
And I took it down and threw it away.
623
00:40:18,850 --> 00:40:23,750
Exposure of these scandalous events
would mark a turning point for the WWF,
624
00:40:23,930 --> 00:40:27,410
propelling it to rein in the public
antics of its performers.
625
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:32,790
In a symbolic twist of fate, the
aftermath of the infamous plane ride
626
00:40:32,790 --> 00:40:37,770
coincided on the same day the company
was legally forced to rebrand its
627
00:40:37,770 --> 00:40:38,770
identity.
628
00:40:39,510 --> 00:40:45,310
The young talents coming in the business
after that era heard all the stories,
629
00:40:45,490 --> 00:40:46,570
saw the remnants.
630
00:40:47,370 --> 00:40:51,870
Saw guys that had made millions of
dollars not have two quarters rubbed
631
00:40:51,870 --> 00:40:52,870
together.
632
00:40:53,550 --> 00:40:56,750
And I think they learned from their
predecessors.
633
00:41:00,510 --> 00:41:01,510
Nice job.
634
00:41:02,590 --> 00:41:03,810
It's a different culture.
635
00:41:05,210 --> 00:41:06,250
It's a different era.
636
00:41:06,910 --> 00:41:09,010
I think that's the upshot.
637
00:41:09,250 --> 00:41:15,170
And maybe good news, that incidents like
the plane ride from hell smartened some
638
00:41:15,170 --> 00:41:16,170
of these younger kids up.
639
00:41:16,970 --> 00:41:21,210
I want to be in the wrestling business.
I've always idolized this guy. But I do
640
00:41:21,210 --> 00:41:25,170
know I'm not going to pattern some of my
career after this guy.
641
00:41:26,370 --> 00:41:28,130
You make good choices that way.
642
00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:35,150
I think that there's definitely a sense
of that cliche, never meet your heroes.
643
00:41:36,370 --> 00:41:41,850
The people who have watched for
generations and got them through their
644
00:41:42,460 --> 00:41:47,300
I don't think that they all need to see
Ric Flair doing the helicopter with his
645
00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:54,140
penis. Like, I don't really think it's
good for everybody to know this about
646
00:41:54,140 --> 00:41:58,040
their heroes, you know? Some of these
guys are freaks.
647
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,280
I feel this is trying to portray someone
as this sexual predator, and it's not.
648
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,140
It's a joke, it's a gag.
649
00:42:04,860 --> 00:42:08,480
And today, 1 ,000 %...
650
00:42:09,180 --> 00:42:13,520
My hairstyle is inappropriate right now.
I am somehow offending someone right
651
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:18,260
now with my double ponytail. How dare I
have two ponytails? And my answer is I'm
652
00:42:18,260 --> 00:42:19,700
50 years old. I'm happy I have hair.
653
00:42:20,540 --> 00:42:25,120
But if you're asking me, I've hung out
with Ric Flair. I've never seen him try
654
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,660
to force his will against anybody.
655
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,900
I don't feel that his intent was to rape
me.
656
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,880
But what he did was wrong. It was wrong.
657
00:42:37,180 --> 00:42:41,100
He goes to sleep that night and thinks
he made it back from his wrestling trip
658
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:44,040
in Europe and maybe he has a headache
because he had too many cocktails on the
659
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,040
airplane.
660
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,800
And yet, that night I didn't go to
sleep.
661
00:42:49,980 --> 00:42:55,080
My trip to work, my trip to get money to
support my daughter becomes a memory
662
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,820
that is mine forever to live with. Like,
I get to live with the fact that I had
663
00:42:58,820 --> 00:43:02,380
to see a naked man and get my face
licked by a man that I was there to make
664
00:43:02,380 --> 00:43:03,820
he got from point A to point B safe.
665
00:43:04,980 --> 00:43:06,560
And they went to sleep in five.
666
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,520
They made it home safe and sound and so
goes on the world, you know.
667
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,000
I was uncomfortable coming to talk about
this.
668
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,720
You see some stories get told and then
people get ridiculed or everything
669
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:21,900
apart as what they did wrong when
they're just telling the story.
670
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:29,520
But if one person that listens to this
says, oh my gosh, I might have acted
671
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,520
that towards somebody and I didn't even
realize I did it.
672
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,820
Or if one person hears it, they had
something happen to them.
673
00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:39,270
that they didn't like it and they didn't
feel they could speak about it because
674
00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:42,650
they'd get in trouble or they were made
to feel that they created the situation
675
00:43:42,650 --> 00:43:43,670
and might have made it happen.
676
00:43:43,950 --> 00:43:47,650
Like if it could change it for one
person, I'd sit and have this
677
00:43:47,650 --> 00:43:48,790
times again.
678
00:43:49,730 --> 00:43:55,250
The truth can be scary and the truth can
be ugly and messy, but at the end of
679
00:43:55,250 --> 00:43:58,030
the day, the truth is the thing that
makes us better.
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