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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:56,275 --> 00:00:59,620 Welcome to Very Scary People. I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 2 00:00:59,655 --> 00:01:02,551 Julie Winningham's family and friends would describe her 3 00:01:02,586 --> 00:01:05,000 as kind, warm, and free-spirited. 4 00:01:05,034 --> 00:01:08,482 So when the 41-year-old's body was found off a remote road 5 00:01:08,517 --> 00:01:10,206 in the Columbia River Gorge, 6 00:01:10,241 --> 00:01:12,689 her loved ones couldn't imagine who would want to kill her. 7 00:01:13,689 --> 00:01:15,827 But as police start investigating her murder, 8 00:01:15,862 --> 00:01:17,827 they discover more bodies 9 00:01:17,862 --> 00:01:19,413 and a shocking link to a letter 10 00:01:19,448 --> 00:01:22,482 sent to The Oregonian newspaper a year before. 11 00:01:22,517 --> 00:01:25,172 Here's part two of the Happy Face Killer. 12 00:01:39,689 --> 00:01:41,655 January 22nd, 1990, 13 00:01:41,689 --> 00:01:44,517 police would receive a call of a female body 14 00:01:44,551 --> 00:01:47,344 that had been spotted down the incline 15 00:01:47,379 --> 00:01:49,000 at the Columbia River Gorge. 16 00:01:50,068 --> 00:01:53,344 Her body was found partially unclothed, um, 17 00:01:53,379 --> 00:01:56,137 her pants had been pulled down, her top was up. 18 00:01:57,275 --> 00:02:00,241 The woman had a rope around her neck. 19 00:02:00,275 --> 00:02:02,620 She had been strangled. 20 00:02:02,655 --> 00:02:05,586 She'd been strangled. She'd been beaten badly. 21 00:02:07,241 --> 00:02:09,586 They wanted to identify her. 22 00:02:09,620 --> 00:02:13,655 So I had to think of something to identify her. 23 00:02:13,689 --> 00:02:16,620 All I could think of is she had very flat feet 24 00:02:16,655 --> 00:02:19,448 and she had a mole on her hand. 25 00:02:19,482 --> 00:02:22,379 She confirmed that it was indeed her sister, 26 00:02:22,413 --> 00:02:24,310 Taunja Bennett. 27 00:02:24,344 --> 00:02:27,068 Laverne Pavlinac confessed that she was there 28 00:02:27,103 --> 00:02:31,034 when her boyfriend John Sosnovske killed Taunja Bennett. 29 00:02:31,068 --> 00:02:33,827 Both Laverne Pavlinac and John Sosnovske 30 00:02:33,862 --> 00:02:36,586 are charged with the murder of 23-year-old Taunja Bennett. 31 00:02:40,241 --> 00:02:42,965 The Oregonian received a letter from 32 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,172 a person that they deemed the Happy Face Killer. 33 00:02:46,206 --> 00:02:49,275 And the reason they deem that is it was marked with a happy face. 34 00:02:50,724 --> 00:02:53,724 The letters detailed five, um, 35 00:02:53,758 --> 00:02:57,379 homicides that they claimed responsibility for, including Taunja Bennett. 36 00:02:59,482 --> 00:03:02,482 Was he playing some kind of cat and mouse game? 37 00:03:02,517 --> 00:03:05,655 It was pretty obvious this wasn't a hoax. 38 00:03:23,206 --> 00:03:26,517 In 1994, the Internet was just starting 39 00:03:26,551 --> 00:03:28,724 to become a big thing. 40 00:03:29,896 --> 00:03:33,137 And, uh, newspapers, like The Oregonian, 41 00:03:33,172 --> 00:03:36,448 had the resources to turn reporters, 42 00:03:36,482 --> 00:03:39,275 like Phil Stanford, loose on important stories. 43 00:03:39,310 --> 00:03:44,000 And he found a lot of facts that pointed 44 00:03:44,034 --> 00:03:49,344 toward the letter being an authentic confession letter. 45 00:03:49,379 --> 00:03:52,137 Law enforcement did investigate the letters, 46 00:03:52,172 --> 00:03:54,827 trying to identify who the author might be. 47 00:03:54,862 --> 00:03:58,379 and to line up those, uh, claimed homicides 48 00:03:58,413 --> 00:03:59,862 with actual cases. 49 00:03:59,896 --> 00:04:02,758 Um, they did pull fingerprints 50 00:04:02,793 --> 00:04:06,724 and DNA from the letters, 51 00:04:06,758 --> 00:04:11,172 but there was nothing in the database to match them to. 52 00:04:11,206 --> 00:04:14,275 Unfortunately, these letters didn't really open 53 00:04:14,310 --> 00:04:16,275 any new avenues of investigation, 54 00:04:16,310 --> 00:04:19,241 'cause there was no indication of who was writing the letters. 55 00:04:19,275 --> 00:04:21,413 There was no way to prove who had authored them. 56 00:04:23,137 --> 00:04:26,413 Even though they have the six-page letter, which speaks specifically 57 00:04:26,448 --> 00:04:28,896 about the 1990 murder of Taunja Bennett, 58 00:04:28,931 --> 00:04:30,758 authorities don't re-open the case 59 00:04:30,793 --> 00:04:33,379 because they believe they have the right people in prison, 60 00:04:33,413 --> 00:04:36,448 John Sosnovske and Laverne Pavlinac. 61 00:04:37,931 --> 00:04:41,413 I was actually surprised after the series ran 62 00:04:41,448 --> 00:04:43,758 that there wasn't an uproar 63 00:04:43,793 --> 00:04:47,931 from the Multnomah County, uh, District Attorney's office 64 00:04:47,965 --> 00:04:49,965 or the Sheriff's Office. 65 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,689 There was nothing. They didn't re-open an investigation. 66 00:04:53,724 --> 00:04:55,655 They just did nothing 67 00:04:55,689 --> 00:04:57,862 and life went on. 68 00:05:00,965 --> 00:05:04,241 It was a year later, as I recall... 69 00:05:05,482 --> 00:05:08,172 ...that a woman was murdered. 70 00:05:22,310 --> 00:05:24,896 March 11th, 1995, was a Saturday. 71 00:05:24,931 --> 00:05:26,517 Um, I was on days off, 72 00:05:26,551 --> 00:05:29,862 and so, I received a call about 4:00 PM 73 00:05:29,896 --> 00:05:33,965 that a, uh, passerby had stopped along, uh, Highway 14, 74 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,137 um, to urinate off the side of the road where he couldn't be seen. 75 00:05:38,965 --> 00:05:41,241 Highway 14 basically travels 76 00:05:41,275 --> 00:05:45,034 east and west through the Columbia River Gorge. 77 00:05:45,068 --> 00:05:49,172 As he was doing that, he noticed what he initially thought was a mannequin. 78 00:05:49,206 --> 00:05:52,137 But as he looked at it a little closer, a little harder 79 00:05:52,172 --> 00:05:55,103 from where he stood, he saw fingernail polish 80 00:05:55,137 --> 00:05:56,655 and those kind of things that indicated 81 00:05:56,689 --> 00:05:58,862 it may not be a mannequin, it may be human remains. 82 00:06:02,482 --> 00:06:05,724 As I approached the scene, I'm looking for any signs of her clothing. 83 00:06:05,758 --> 00:06:08,517 I'm looking for signs of any identification, 84 00:06:08,551 --> 00:06:11,655 I'm looking for signs of maybe a purse or a wallet, 85 00:06:11,689 --> 00:06:13,310 and I found none in the area. 86 00:06:13,344 --> 00:06:17,000 Um, it was just a nude woman with, with no clothing there, 87 00:06:17,034 --> 00:06:19,827 no, um, forms of identification. 88 00:06:19,862 --> 00:06:23,275 What we did is load her into, um, 89 00:06:23,310 --> 00:06:26,413 a transport vehicle and took her to the Clark County Coroner's Office. 90 00:06:29,965 --> 00:06:32,965 The medical examiner concludes that this woman 91 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,655 died of manual strangulation. 92 00:06:35,689 --> 00:06:39,689 Once we knew that it was caused by another, being a homicide, 93 00:06:39,724 --> 00:06:42,000 now we need to identify who this person is. 94 00:06:42,034 --> 00:06:43,724 They lift her fingerprints 95 00:06:43,758 --> 00:06:45,827 and match them to a set in the system. 96 00:06:45,862 --> 00:06:49,827 Those fingerprints were put into the, uh, national database, 97 00:06:49,862 --> 00:06:52,827 um, where we were able to determine her identity 98 00:06:53,689 --> 00:06:55,172 as Julie Winningham. 99 00:06:56,689 --> 00:07:00,517 Julie was my mother and I was her only son. 100 00:07:00,551 --> 00:07:03,896 She was truly a kind-hearted, free-spirited... 101 00:07:03,931 --> 00:07:05,931 Loved to travel. 102 00:07:05,965 --> 00:07:09,137 She just wasn't a negative soul. 103 00:07:10,517 --> 00:07:13,620 She was loving and caring, she didn't do people wrong. 104 00:07:18,344 --> 00:07:21,068 The Taunja Bennett murder happened in 1990 105 00:07:21,103 --> 00:07:24,206 and her body is dumped in the Columbia River Gorge. 106 00:07:24,241 --> 00:07:28,241 Five years later, in 1995, 107 00:07:28,275 --> 00:07:30,241 Julie Winningham's body is found 108 00:07:30,275 --> 00:07:33,448 in the Columbia River Gorge on the Washington side. 109 00:07:34,827 --> 00:07:37,758 Nobody knows yet that those two murders 110 00:07:37,793 --> 00:07:40,034 are connected to the same person. 111 00:08:00,137 --> 00:08:02,137 Once we identified who she is, 112 00:08:02,172 --> 00:08:04,862 then our next step is to 113 00:08:04,896 --> 00:08:08,206 talk to Julie's friends and family to figure out 114 00:08:08,241 --> 00:08:10,689 who she was last with, when she was last seen. 115 00:08:10,724 --> 00:08:12,586 According to detectives, 116 00:08:12,620 --> 00:08:14,482 friends of Julie Winningham confirmed 117 00:08:14,517 --> 00:08:18,000 that she had been seen with a very large man, 118 00:08:18,034 --> 00:08:20,655 and that these two had become very close. 119 00:08:20,689 --> 00:08:24,172 This man was a long haul truck driver, drove a big blue truck. 120 00:08:25,862 --> 00:08:28,137 One of the people we spoke with, a friend of Julie's, 121 00:08:28,172 --> 00:08:29,413 was Bonnie Valenstein. 122 00:08:29,448 --> 00:08:32,034 She actually described that she had 123 00:08:32,068 --> 00:08:33,862 bought a car from Julie 124 00:08:33,896 --> 00:08:36,862 a few weeks prior to her disappearance. 125 00:08:36,896 --> 00:08:41,172 There was this large man, actually signed it as a witness. 126 00:08:41,206 --> 00:08:44,000 And so we're thinking, "Okay, we're gonna have a signature. 127 00:08:44,034 --> 00:08:46,241 This is too easy. It can't be that easy. 128 00:08:46,275 --> 00:08:48,827 It's not gonna pan out as we hope." 129 00:08:48,862 --> 00:08:52,379 However, when she showed us the bill of sale, 130 00:08:52,413 --> 00:08:53,896 the signature was pretty clear. 131 00:08:53,931 --> 00:08:55,655 But in addition to that, 132 00:08:55,689 --> 00:08:59,413 the signer had actually printed his name, Keith Hunter Jesperson. 133 00:09:02,344 --> 00:09:05,620 And that's the first time that we had that information, 134 00:09:05,655 --> 00:09:07,310 as far as who this truck driver was. 135 00:09:09,793 --> 00:09:14,379 Detectives are able to track down the truck of Keith Jesperson 136 00:09:14,413 --> 00:09:16,655 to a company in Spokane, Washington. 137 00:09:16,689 --> 00:09:20,379 And they do confirm that Keith Jesperson is a truck driver for them. 138 00:09:20,413 --> 00:09:22,551 And in fact, he's on a long haul right now. 139 00:09:22,586 --> 00:09:24,793 He's driving a truck down the California coast 140 00:09:24,827 --> 00:09:27,103 to go to Las Cruces, New Mexico. 141 00:09:27,137 --> 00:09:29,482 And he is scheduled to arrive in two days. 142 00:09:29,517 --> 00:09:32,586 Police get on a flight to Las Cruces 143 00:09:32,620 --> 00:09:34,620 and are there waiting for him 144 00:09:34,655 --> 00:09:36,551 when the truck pulls in with its delivery. 145 00:09:37,862 --> 00:09:39,965 At that stage, all we knew is that 146 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,862 this guy's a very large man, 147 00:09:41,896 --> 00:09:44,241 and that if he resists, 148 00:09:44,275 --> 00:09:46,758 it's going to be a struggle 149 00:09:46,793 --> 00:09:48,793 to get him into custody and restrained. 150 00:09:48,827 --> 00:09:52,310 And so, um, we had to prepare for the worst. 151 00:09:56,517 --> 00:09:59,724 But once he came to the gate, the officer was there, 152 00:09:59,758 --> 00:10:03,172 uh, explained, "Just park your truck here. Follow me on foot." 153 00:10:03,206 --> 00:10:06,241 And as we approached him and identified ourselves as detectives, 154 00:10:06,275 --> 00:10:08,413 he just didn't seem to be bothered by it. 155 00:10:08,448 --> 00:10:10,275 Didn't seem to be threatened in any way. 156 00:10:10,310 --> 00:10:12,655 Um, he was very, uh, calm, 157 00:10:12,689 --> 00:10:15,310 um, was very cooperative, wanted to help us. 158 00:10:15,344 --> 00:10:18,724 Even not knowing what the investigation was for, 159 00:10:18,758 --> 00:10:20,448 he still was willing to talk to us. 160 00:10:22,517 --> 00:10:25,172 It wasn't until we actually got into the interview room 161 00:10:25,206 --> 00:10:28,655 that we told him, "We're actually from the state of Washington 162 00:10:28,689 --> 00:10:31,482 and we're investigating the death of Julie Winningham." 163 00:10:32,482 --> 00:10:34,275 He's incredibly talkative, 164 00:10:34,310 --> 00:10:36,206 but he only wants to talk about 165 00:10:36,241 --> 00:10:38,310 how great Keith Jesperson is. 166 00:10:39,344 --> 00:10:41,586 He's friendly, he's cooperative, 167 00:10:41,620 --> 00:10:44,413 but he denies any knowledge of what happened 168 00:10:44,448 --> 00:10:46,551 to Julie Winningham. 169 00:10:46,586 --> 00:10:48,379 As we interviewed him, he had described that 170 00:10:48,413 --> 00:10:50,586 they had actually met two years before. 171 00:10:50,620 --> 00:10:53,965 Had a romantic relationship at that point in time, 172 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,310 that, uh, Julie had actually accompanied him 173 00:10:56,344 --> 00:10:59,137 on several runs, uh, driving truck. 174 00:10:59,172 --> 00:11:00,620 They went down to California, 175 00:11:00,655 --> 00:11:02,344 they went to Yakima, Washington. 176 00:11:20,103 --> 00:11:23,965 From my understanding, my mother had met Keith 177 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,551 three years prior to '95, 178 00:11:26,586 --> 00:11:28,931 because she knew other truck drivers 179 00:11:28,965 --> 00:11:31,034 and hung out at the truck stops, and... 180 00:11:32,413 --> 00:11:36,137 So, somehow, she reconnected with Keith 181 00:11:36,172 --> 00:11:39,896 and they spent about three weeks in town together. 182 00:11:41,103 --> 00:11:43,379 Keith described that about the first week 183 00:11:43,413 --> 00:11:46,793 in March '95, that he'd again saw her, 184 00:11:46,827 --> 00:11:48,724 uh, at a truck stop, 185 00:11:48,758 --> 00:11:51,379 and that they struck up a conversation again, 186 00:11:51,413 --> 00:11:54,034 kinda started the relationship over again. 187 00:11:54,068 --> 00:11:57,517 At this stage, he described that it was kinda one-sided, 188 00:11:57,551 --> 00:12:00,448 that he really didn't care for her, is how he described it, 189 00:12:00,482 --> 00:12:03,034 that he felt that she was actually only with him 190 00:12:03,068 --> 00:12:04,931 because he was buying her things. 191 00:12:04,965 --> 00:12:08,275 But that she was willing to have sex with him. 192 00:12:13,034 --> 00:12:15,103 She was beautiful, kind-hearted, 193 00:12:15,137 --> 00:12:18,931 but at the same time, she was a very weak soul. 194 00:12:18,965 --> 00:12:21,241 Even though she was a free-spirited soul. 195 00:12:22,413 --> 00:12:25,206 So I think that's what drew him in. 196 00:12:26,379 --> 00:12:28,379 Because he's such a negative person. 197 00:12:28,413 --> 00:12:30,000 I don't know. 198 00:12:30,034 --> 00:12:32,517 But that's what I think drew him in. 199 00:12:33,586 --> 00:12:35,931 Detectives felt that Keith Jesperson 200 00:12:35,965 --> 00:12:37,793 was hiding information about Julie, 201 00:12:37,827 --> 00:12:40,793 but didn't have enough evidence to arrest him. 202 00:12:40,827 --> 00:12:43,551 Though Detective Buettner gave Jesperson his card, 203 00:12:43,586 --> 00:12:46,068 telling him to call him if he has anything further to say. 204 00:12:53,620 --> 00:12:55,517 When those detectives return home 205 00:12:55,551 --> 00:12:57,862 from New Mexico on March 24th, 206 00:12:57,896 --> 00:13:01,000 they receive a message from Keith Jesperson. 207 00:13:01,034 --> 00:13:02,655 He says, 208 00:13:02,689 --> 00:13:05,931 "This is Keith Hunter Jesperson." 209 00:13:22,379 --> 00:13:24,655 Jesperson admitted that 210 00:13:24,689 --> 00:13:26,793 he was waiting in his truck for Julie. 211 00:13:26,827 --> 00:13:29,517 Julie showed up, had some pizza, 212 00:13:29,551 --> 00:13:31,586 they had consensual sex. 213 00:13:31,620 --> 00:13:34,068 They then were talking about some other things. 214 00:13:34,103 --> 00:13:36,758 Jesperson said he wanted to have sex again. 215 00:13:36,793 --> 00:13:38,758 Julie told him, "Well, I don't want to." 216 00:13:38,793 --> 00:13:41,655 And then Jesperson said, "Well, what if I do it anyway?" 217 00:13:41,689 --> 00:13:43,827 She told him, "Well, then, that would be rape. 218 00:13:43,862 --> 00:13:45,965 And I would have to report that." 219 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,655 That angered Jesperson. 220 00:13:47,689 --> 00:13:49,517 And at that point, he said he strangled her. 221 00:14:15,034 --> 00:14:17,896 Everything he told us confirmed that he had indeed 222 00:14:17,931 --> 00:14:20,068 killed Julie Winningham by strangling her, 223 00:14:20,103 --> 00:14:22,862 and then dumped her body in Skamania County in the Columbia Gorge. 224 00:14:22,896 --> 00:14:25,827 And within, uh, a short amount of time, 225 00:14:25,862 --> 00:14:28,724 Keith Jesperson was taken into custody for the murder of Julie Winningham. 226 00:14:41,137 --> 00:14:44,379 Keith Hunter Jesperson was born in 1955 227 00:14:44,413 --> 00:14:47,724 to his father Leslie and mother Gladys Jesperson 228 00:14:47,758 --> 00:14:51,551 in the little rural town of Chilliwack, British Columbia. 229 00:14:51,586 --> 00:14:53,448 He was the middle of five children, 230 00:14:53,482 --> 00:14:56,620 with two brothers and two sisters. 231 00:14:56,655 --> 00:15:00,275 Keith was considered the slowest of the Jesperson children. 232 00:15:00,310 --> 00:15:03,103 They say he often dawdled, 233 00:15:03,137 --> 00:15:06,137 and would like to spend a lot of time by himself, 234 00:15:06,172 --> 00:15:07,896 isolating himself. 235 00:15:07,931 --> 00:15:11,379 He was sort of the black sheep of the family. 236 00:15:11,413 --> 00:15:15,000 His father was pretty abusive, is what I understand, 237 00:15:15,034 --> 00:15:17,000 towards Keith only. 238 00:15:17,896 --> 00:15:20,482 And his father was a drinker 239 00:15:20,517 --> 00:15:24,103 and that Keith got the blunt of it. 240 00:15:33,689 --> 00:15:37,517 Keith's father made his children work every single day. 241 00:15:37,551 --> 00:15:41,103 And if the children made any sign of laziness, 242 00:15:41,137 --> 00:15:42,896 he would beat them with a leather belt. 243 00:15:44,344 --> 00:15:47,620 He reports physical abuse coming from his dad, 244 00:15:47,655 --> 00:15:50,793 and how his father often 245 00:15:50,827 --> 00:15:54,655 made him feel like an inconvenience. 246 00:15:54,689 --> 00:15:58,482 Like someone just to be tolerated. 247 00:15:58,517 --> 00:16:02,206 In spite of all this, Keith would insist that his father Leslie 248 00:16:02,241 --> 00:16:04,724 was one of the best dads a kid could have. 249 00:16:04,758 --> 00:16:07,448 His dad was well known in the community. 250 00:16:07,482 --> 00:16:10,758 He probably had his father up on a pedestal, 251 00:16:10,793 --> 00:16:12,827 which makes it even more challenging 252 00:16:12,862 --> 00:16:14,862 when you're trying to be recognized, 253 00:16:14,896 --> 00:16:18,896 when Dad is almost a superhero. 254 00:16:18,931 --> 00:16:21,931 The relationship with his mother, distant emotionally. 255 00:16:22,793 --> 00:16:24,931 It shouldn't be a surprise that 256 00:16:24,965 --> 00:16:27,724 an individual who has very little, 257 00:16:27,758 --> 00:16:29,724 if not any emotional connection with his mother... 258 00:16:31,103 --> 00:16:34,241 ...ends up being able to perpetrate violence against women. 259 00:16:39,448 --> 00:16:44,000 The family moves to the small town in Washington called Selah. 260 00:16:44,034 --> 00:16:46,344 Keith just seemed to me, 261 00:16:46,379 --> 00:16:48,724 um, an ex-classmate 262 00:16:48,758 --> 00:16:51,793 that I feel like I never knew. 263 00:16:53,137 --> 00:16:54,896 I first met Keith 264 00:16:54,931 --> 00:16:57,482 as a freshman in high school. 265 00:16:57,517 --> 00:16:59,931 I'm only 4'9", 266 00:16:59,965 --> 00:17:03,275 and Keith is, like, 6'7". 267 00:17:03,310 --> 00:17:05,482 So, he towered me. 268 00:17:05,517 --> 00:17:07,896 Keith didn't do very well in school. 269 00:17:07,931 --> 00:17:11,137 He was very large and uncoordinated, 270 00:17:11,172 --> 00:17:13,758 and the other kids made fun of him and even bullied him. 271 00:17:15,137 --> 00:17:18,931 Keith tried really hard to try to fit in. 272 00:17:18,965 --> 00:17:21,172 He was trying to get attention at school 273 00:17:21,206 --> 00:17:23,241 'cause he wasn't getting it at home. 274 00:17:23,275 --> 00:17:26,827 Course, we never did to his face, but unfortunately, 275 00:17:26,862 --> 00:17:29,965 because of his size, we would call him Baby Huey. 276 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,896 It was a cartoon character 277 00:17:31,931 --> 00:17:35,103 back in the late '60s and '70s. 278 00:17:36,827 --> 00:17:40,413 Keith grew up experiencing physical abuse from his parents, 279 00:17:40,448 --> 00:17:42,344 experiencing bullying from his peers. 280 00:17:42,379 --> 00:17:44,896 And what we know about that is, 281 00:17:44,931 --> 00:17:46,827 somebody who is victimized 282 00:17:47,620 --> 00:17:50,103 learns the role of the victim, 283 00:17:50,137 --> 00:17:52,620 but also, potentially, 284 00:17:52,655 --> 00:17:54,068 the role of the abuser. 285 00:17:56,965 --> 00:18:00,482 In his teens, Keith Jesperson didn't have a lot of luck with girls, 286 00:18:00,517 --> 00:18:03,827 but when he was 20 years old in 1975, 287 00:18:03,862 --> 00:18:06,034 he married 18-year-old Rose Pernick, 288 00:18:06,068 --> 00:18:08,310 and together they had three children. 289 00:18:09,241 --> 00:18:10,827 Say hi, Grandpa. 290 00:18:10,862 --> 00:18:13,034 Hi, sweetheart. I see your new boots. 291 00:18:13,068 --> 00:18:15,137 -See? -Holy smoke. 292 00:18:15,172 --> 00:18:17,655 You have new boots! 293 00:18:17,689 --> 00:18:20,620 They built a marriage that worked, 294 00:18:20,655 --> 00:18:22,310 at least fundamentally, 295 00:18:22,344 --> 00:18:26,655 in terms of Keith supporting his family by working, 296 00:18:26,689 --> 00:18:30,551 and her maintaining the home and raising the children. 297 00:18:30,586 --> 00:18:32,517 Now what do I do to get it going? 298 00:18:35,206 --> 00:18:38,000 I don't know if I like this! 299 00:18:38,034 --> 00:18:39,862 Keith! Keep your feet up. 300 00:18:42,034 --> 00:18:44,206 Keith was just the traditional dad. 301 00:18:44,241 --> 00:18:46,689 He did the work, his wife Rose stayed at home. 302 00:18:46,724 --> 00:18:50,000 And the kids in the household seemed very normal. 303 00:18:51,689 --> 00:18:52,689 Eat it. 304 00:18:54,034 --> 00:18:56,137 Mmm! 305 00:19:05,172 --> 00:19:08,896 Keith was able to make a good living as a long haul truck driver. 306 00:19:08,931 --> 00:19:10,689 But he's off driving around the country 307 00:19:10,724 --> 00:19:12,413 for weeks at a time sometimes. 308 00:19:12,448 --> 00:19:15,379 And, uh, he's physically and emotionally away 309 00:19:15,413 --> 00:19:19,034 from his wife, away from his children. 310 00:19:20,068 --> 00:19:21,551 According to Keith, 311 00:19:21,586 --> 00:19:24,586 he and Rose had the normal kind of sexual relationship 312 00:19:24,620 --> 00:19:26,275 in their marriage in the early years. 313 00:19:26,310 --> 00:19:27,793 But then things grew stale. 314 00:19:28,931 --> 00:19:31,172 Once he became a long haul trucker, 315 00:19:31,206 --> 00:19:34,413 it was kind of easy to pick up girls at the truck stops, 316 00:19:34,448 --> 00:19:35,965 and he was seeing girls on the side. 317 00:19:56,586 --> 00:19:59,620 Keith's marriage completely falls apart. 318 00:19:59,655 --> 00:20:02,827 He loses his job, they lose the house, 319 00:20:02,862 --> 00:20:06,034 he ends up starting to date another woman. 320 00:20:06,068 --> 00:20:08,241 And then he and Rose get divorced. 321 00:20:08,275 --> 00:20:12,310 And so, financially, he's really sliding quickly. 322 00:20:12,344 --> 00:20:15,310 He has to go out on the roads to work more, 323 00:20:15,344 --> 00:20:19,310 which further isolates him from his children. 324 00:20:19,344 --> 00:20:22,758 When you started to peel off the layers of his life, 325 00:20:22,793 --> 00:20:25,931 then you came to find out later 326 00:20:25,965 --> 00:20:29,827 from his daughter and from other people, some disturbing elements. 327 00:20:31,344 --> 00:20:34,448 According to Keith Jesperson's daughter, Melissa, 328 00:20:34,482 --> 00:20:36,896 when they were living in Washington state and she was about 329 00:20:36,931 --> 00:20:40,310 five years old, their cat had a litter of kittens in the basement. 330 00:20:40,344 --> 00:20:44,068 And Keith took these kittens and hung them by their tails 331 00:20:44,103 --> 00:20:45,965 from the clothesline. 332 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,482 Later, Melissa reports she found all of the kittens dead in the backyard. 333 00:20:49,517 --> 00:20:53,655 I was six years old when I saw my dad kill my kittens 334 00:20:53,689 --> 00:20:56,793 that I had found, and that's when it hit me 335 00:20:56,827 --> 00:21:00,620 that something's very dark and different about my dad. 336 00:21:00,655 --> 00:21:03,517 Melissa reports that when she was 13, 337 00:21:03,551 --> 00:21:08,379 her father told her that he could kill a woman and get away with it. 338 00:21:08,413 --> 00:21:11,827 He told her that he had literally killed a woman and cut the buttons 339 00:21:11,862 --> 00:21:15,379 off her clothing to get rid of any possibility of fingerprints 340 00:21:15,413 --> 00:21:17,206 on those buttons. 341 00:21:17,241 --> 00:21:19,931 And that he would wear cycling shoes to make sure he didn't leave any 342 00:21:19,965 --> 00:21:21,000 footprints in the mud. 343 00:21:38,586 --> 00:21:41,000 Welcome back to Very Scary People. 344 00:21:41,034 --> 00:21:43,758 Keith Hunter Jesperson confesses to murdering 345 00:21:43,793 --> 00:21:45,586 his girlfriend Julie Winningham 346 00:21:45,620 --> 00:21:48,862 and dumping her body in the Columbia River Gorge. 347 00:21:48,896 --> 00:21:50,965 Seems like a cut and dry case, 348 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,137 until detectives hear from Keith's brother Brad. 349 00:21:54,172 --> 00:21:57,586 He tells them he has a letter they need to see immediately. 350 00:22:02,689 --> 00:22:07,000 So, this is the letter that Keith Jesperson wrote to his brother, Brad, 351 00:22:07,034 --> 00:22:09,448 on March 24th, 1995. 352 00:22:09,482 --> 00:22:13,103 This is when he's being questioned about Julie Winningham's murder, 353 00:22:13,137 --> 00:22:14,931 he says, "Hi, Brad... 354 00:22:36,206 --> 00:22:39,344 He's arrested for the Julie Winningham murder. 355 00:22:39,379 --> 00:22:42,724 At that point, he makes a phone call to his brother, Brad, and says... 356 00:22:42,758 --> 00:22:45,068 "Destroy the letter." 357 00:22:45,103 --> 00:22:47,172 So, on one hand he's saying, "I wanna be caught, 358 00:22:48,034 --> 00:22:49,000 but not really." 359 00:22:49,931 --> 00:22:52,620 He had told Keith that he had destroyed it, 360 00:22:52,655 --> 00:22:54,413 but, in fact, he didn't destroy it, 361 00:22:54,448 --> 00:22:57,103 and he provided our officers with the letter. 362 00:22:57,137 --> 00:23:01,551 In the letter, he talks about how he had killed multiple women by that point. 363 00:23:01,586 --> 00:23:04,413 And so, that was our first concrete information 364 00:23:04,448 --> 00:23:06,862 of our worst nightmare that there are more victims 365 00:23:06,896 --> 00:23:08,827 that Keith Jesperson had murdered. 366 00:23:10,758 --> 00:23:12,758 This is an unbelievable development. 367 00:23:12,793 --> 00:23:16,379 Detectives believed that they had a person who killed his girlfriend. 368 00:23:16,413 --> 00:23:19,896 Never did they think that they had a serial killer on their hands. 369 00:23:21,793 --> 00:23:26,206 It's terrifying information because now we know of multiple victims, 370 00:23:26,241 --> 00:23:27,724 we don't know where. 371 00:23:27,758 --> 00:23:30,689 We don't know how to possibly track these victims down, 372 00:23:30,724 --> 00:23:32,172 how to identify 'em, 373 00:23:32,206 --> 00:23:35,344 how to verify that, maybe, a victim in another State 374 00:23:35,379 --> 00:23:38,034 whose body was recovered, that was the beginning of the hard work 375 00:23:38,068 --> 00:23:40,241 in that investigation. 376 00:23:40,275 --> 00:23:45,000 So, in 1995, the way to communicate with other agencies 377 00:23:45,034 --> 00:23:47,172 was to send out what we referred to as a teletype, 378 00:23:47,206 --> 00:23:49,931 basically it was a message sent out through a computer 379 00:23:49,965 --> 00:23:51,896 that goes to all law enforcement agencies, 380 00:23:51,931 --> 00:23:56,586 that we have somebody that's admitting to killing multiple women, 381 00:23:57,862 --> 00:23:59,862 that he is a long haul truck driver. 382 00:24:01,310 --> 00:24:05,275 Up to this point, we know that his method of murder was strangulation. 383 00:24:05,310 --> 00:24:06,620 It may or may not be similar. 384 00:24:08,103 --> 00:24:12,068 That he is known to dump his victims off the side of the road, 385 00:24:12,103 --> 00:24:14,379 along major highways. 386 00:24:14,413 --> 00:24:18,586 Please contact us if you have anything, um, that you are aware of, 387 00:24:18,620 --> 00:24:20,482 that you have not solved up to this point. 388 00:24:21,586 --> 00:24:23,551 As he's confessing to these crimes, 389 00:24:23,586 --> 00:24:27,137 they're realizing only a killer would know this information. 390 00:24:27,172 --> 00:24:30,827 Now they're questioning the Taunja Bennett murder 391 00:24:30,862 --> 00:24:34,965 saying there's a good chance he did do this 392 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,137 and that two innocent people are in jail. 393 00:24:39,689 --> 00:24:41,965 My role in the Jesperson case started 394 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,620 after he got arrested for killing 395 00:24:43,655 --> 00:24:47,241 his girlfriend in Clark County, Washington. 396 00:24:47,275 --> 00:24:49,310 We got a call from a detective over there who said, 397 00:24:49,344 --> 00:24:54,241 "We've got a person in custody on one of our homicides. 398 00:24:54,275 --> 00:24:57,655 And the word is that he has committed some other murders, 399 00:24:57,689 --> 00:25:02,724 and very specifically, he's... the word is that he killed a female 400 00:25:02,758 --> 00:25:05,413 in Multnomah county named Taunja Bennett. 401 00:25:05,448 --> 00:25:08,448 And that he's aware of the fact that some people were in prison 402 00:25:08,482 --> 00:25:09,379 for that murder." 403 00:25:19,310 --> 00:25:22,310 The first time I met Keith Jesperson, 404 00:25:22,344 --> 00:25:27,034 I was a little bit surprised because he came across as the farm boy next door. 405 00:25:27,068 --> 00:25:29,000 He didn't use a lot of swear words, 406 00:25:29,034 --> 00:25:30,724 he didn't act like a tough guy. 407 00:25:30,758 --> 00:25:32,931 he wasn't covered with jailhouse tattoos, 408 00:25:32,965 --> 00:25:35,000 and he was very friendly with me. 409 00:25:35,034 --> 00:25:38,000 He appeared to enjoy talking to me. 410 00:25:38,034 --> 00:25:40,793 He wasn't running from me in terms of what he was saying. 411 00:25:41,655 --> 00:25:43,172 I interviewed him four times. 412 00:25:44,241 --> 00:25:46,724 But the initial interview was very simple, 413 00:25:46,758 --> 00:25:49,344 and he told me that he had killed Taunja Bennett 414 00:25:49,379 --> 00:25:51,310 in 1990. 415 00:26:16,068 --> 00:26:19,586 He said that he'd gone to the BNI Tavern, he'd lived on a home nearby. 416 00:26:19,620 --> 00:26:24,517 He'd gone to the BNI Tavern and he saw Taunja Bennett in there, 417 00:26:24,551 --> 00:26:26,206 and there was some interaction. 418 00:26:49,103 --> 00:26:52,620 And then he left the BNI for a while, 419 00:26:52,655 --> 00:26:54,931 and he came back, and Taunja was there. 420 00:26:54,965 --> 00:27:01,000 And there was a conversation about getting something to eat at a nearby restaurant. 421 00:27:01,034 --> 00:27:03,620 But he explains to her he has to run home 422 00:27:03,655 --> 00:27:05,413 because he doesn't have any money with him. 423 00:27:05,448 --> 00:27:08,103 So, she goes with him to his home, 424 00:27:08,137 --> 00:27:11,310 and while they're there, they never end up going to dinner, 425 00:27:11,344 --> 00:27:14,517 but they do end up having sex. 426 00:27:14,551 --> 00:27:17,000 He said that she agreed to have sex with him 427 00:27:17,034 --> 00:27:19,620 on a mattress in the living room. 428 00:27:19,655 --> 00:27:23,000 And that happened, according to Jesperson. 429 00:27:23,034 --> 00:27:27,827 And at some point, she said something that offended Jesperson, 430 00:27:27,862 --> 00:27:31,103 and he said he decided he was gonna kill her. 431 00:28:12,034 --> 00:28:14,862 He apparently strangled her. 432 00:28:14,896 --> 00:28:17,103 And left her in his home, 433 00:28:17,137 --> 00:28:21,310 where he was living with another woman who was also out of town, 434 00:28:21,344 --> 00:28:23,241 she was a truck driver. 435 00:28:23,275 --> 00:28:26,724 He went back to the BNI Tavern because he wanted to establish 436 00:28:26,758 --> 00:28:31,310 an alibi about where he was all afternoon and evening. 437 00:28:44,068 --> 00:28:47,896 He became very concerned about the potential for forensic evidence, 438 00:28:47,931 --> 00:28:52,206 and was afraid that his fingerprints might be on the zipper tab. 439 00:28:52,241 --> 00:28:56,758 So he cut the fly out of her jeans so he could take the fingerprint with him. 440 00:28:56,793 --> 00:28:59,517 Then he went back to the home where he's killed Taunja, 441 00:28:59,551 --> 00:29:03,586 and picked her up, and took her out to the dump site 442 00:29:03,620 --> 00:29:05,758 which was in the Columbia River Gorge. 443 00:29:16,206 --> 00:29:19,137 I'm told, the moment at which law enforcement really did believe 444 00:29:19,172 --> 00:29:22,310 that Keith Jesperson was involved in Taunja Bennett's murder... 445 00:29:22,344 --> 00:29:25,344 was he took them out to the Columbia Gorge. 446 00:29:26,724 --> 00:29:30,965 Taunja Bennett's mother had said that she left with a purse, 447 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,517 and her Walkman, and they had never found her purse. 448 00:29:35,034 --> 00:29:38,793 And when Jesperson confessed to killing Bennett, 449 00:29:38,827 --> 00:29:42,310 he described her purse and said that he tossed it. 450 00:29:42,344 --> 00:29:45,517 And he pointed to an area in the gorge and he said, 451 00:29:45,551 --> 00:29:47,000 "That's where I left her purse." 452 00:29:48,379 --> 00:29:50,965 So0 the police brought out Explorer scouts, 453 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,034 who are, you know students who want to be police officers, 454 00:29:53,068 --> 00:29:54,586 and gave them hacksaws and said, 455 00:29:54,620 --> 00:29:55,896 "Were looking for a purse." 456 00:29:57,344 --> 00:29:59,758 And they were about to call it in and one of the kids said, 457 00:29:59,793 --> 00:30:01,827 "I've got a purse." 458 00:30:01,862 --> 00:30:04,551 It had Taunja Bennett's ID card in it still. 459 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,103 There was a search warrant that would allow, uh, the detectives to actually 460 00:30:24,137 --> 00:30:26,965 have Jesperson write down some things 461 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,655 that they tell him to write down. 462 00:30:28,689 --> 00:30:32,344 And with that paper, and as well as any letters that he 463 00:30:32,379 --> 00:30:33,896 is suspected of writing, 464 00:30:33,931 --> 00:30:37,000 it goes to a handwriting expert who does a comparison. 465 00:30:38,068 --> 00:30:40,103 And the letter to The Oregonian 466 00:30:40,137 --> 00:30:42,655 and the letter to Brad were verified by the expert 467 00:30:42,689 --> 00:30:45,448 as being written and authored by Keith Jesperson. 468 00:30:46,551 --> 00:30:47,551 "The Happy Face Killer." 469 00:30:49,517 --> 00:30:52,068 They were also able to get DNA 470 00:30:52,103 --> 00:30:55,206 from one of the letters, "The Happy Face Killer" letters, 471 00:30:55,241 --> 00:30:58,551 that they were able to match to Keith Jesperson's DNA. 472 00:30:58,586 --> 00:31:01,000 So, at that point it was very clear that 473 00:31:01,034 --> 00:31:03,586 he had written the letters. 474 00:31:03,620 --> 00:31:07,758 It all started to come out and it all started to mirror 475 00:31:07,793 --> 00:31:11,517 what he had written to The Oregonian the year before, 476 00:31:11,551 --> 00:31:15,379 what he had written on the bathroom walls. 477 00:31:15,413 --> 00:31:19,517 It all came crashing down on Keith Jesperson. 478 00:31:22,206 --> 00:31:23,931 When things started to quiet down, 479 00:31:23,965 --> 00:31:25,931 he would spark interest again 480 00:31:25,965 --> 00:31:28,241 by bringing up things that he'd done. 481 00:31:28,275 --> 00:31:32,275 He would write letters to media outlets and want to be interviewed. 482 00:31:32,310 --> 00:31:35,206 And saying, "Hey, I'm confessing to these crimes 483 00:31:35,241 --> 00:31:36,551 and nobody is listening to me." 484 00:31:48,241 --> 00:31:52,034 He reaches out to KATU Television Station 485 00:31:52,068 --> 00:31:56,793 and has a conversation with our reporter Bob Heye. 486 00:31:56,827 --> 00:31:59,931 In that conversation, he is repeatedly asked, 487 00:31:59,965 --> 00:32:01,448 "Are you the Happy Face Killer?" 488 00:32:06,724 --> 00:32:10,275 Each time, Keith Jesperson says, "Yes, I am." 489 00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:13,655 Bob Heye also asks him, "Why did you do it?" 490 00:32:13,689 --> 00:32:16,758 And he can't explain it, he says, "I don't know." 491 00:32:35,862 --> 00:32:37,344 Why would he do this? 492 00:32:37,379 --> 00:32:40,413 Well, Jesperson says that he was courting the media 493 00:32:40,448 --> 00:32:42,172 because two people 494 00:32:42,206 --> 00:32:44,275 were wrongfully imprisoned in jail, 495 00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:45,758 and he needed the media's help 496 00:32:45,793 --> 00:32:47,482 to get the evidence out there, 497 00:32:47,517 --> 00:32:49,965 so that these two people could be freed 498 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,448 because he was indeed the Happy Face Killer. 499 00:32:52,482 --> 00:32:55,827 And the question remains, did he really feel bad about these two people 500 00:32:55,862 --> 00:32:59,689 who are imprisoned, or is he just dancing with the media 501 00:32:59,724 --> 00:33:03,000 because he wants the limelight to be focused on him? 502 00:33:04,931 --> 00:33:09,413 Now, the focus turns to Laverne Pavlinac and John Sosnovske 503 00:33:09,448 --> 00:33:11,551 who're sitting in prison. 504 00:33:11,586 --> 00:33:13,206 Remember Laverne Pavlinac, 505 00:33:13,241 --> 00:33:15,103 she confessed that she was there 506 00:33:15,137 --> 00:33:19,034 when her boyfriend John Sosnovske killed Taunja Bennett. 507 00:33:19,068 --> 00:33:21,344 Though she recanted her confession at trial, 508 00:33:21,379 --> 00:33:24,689 she was convicted, and they had both been in prison for four years. 509 00:33:26,758 --> 00:33:29,068 It was almost unbelievable. 510 00:33:29,103 --> 00:33:33,068 You have a serial killer confessing to a crime that two people 511 00:33:33,103 --> 00:33:36,034 are sitting in jail for right now. 512 00:33:36,068 --> 00:33:38,103 You have a case where you have 513 00:33:38,137 --> 00:33:44,000 three people all taking responsibility for a crime. 514 00:33:44,034 --> 00:33:47,586 No one seemed to have coerced or lead their confessions, 515 00:33:47,620 --> 00:33:51,241 they all seem to have information that only the killer would know. 516 00:33:52,586 --> 00:33:55,137 You normally have zero people claiming responsibility. 517 00:33:57,068 --> 00:34:00,551 I would say one of my greatest nightmares in taking a job 518 00:34:00,586 --> 00:34:02,724 as a Deputy District Attorney 519 00:34:02,758 --> 00:34:05,206 is the idea of convicting an innocent person. 520 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:12,034 There was also the possibility that Jesperson could have been involved, 521 00:34:12,068 --> 00:34:15,896 but he could've done it with Laverne and John. 522 00:34:15,931 --> 00:34:18,724 You've really got to be confident you're getting it right 523 00:34:18,758 --> 00:34:20,620 before you let two people who have been convicted 524 00:34:20,655 --> 00:34:22,275 of murder out. 525 00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:24,275 I could see the district attorneys 526 00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:27,793 who had prosecuted Laverne and John. 527 00:34:27,827 --> 00:34:31,482 I could see them struggling with "how did this happen?" 528 00:34:31,517 --> 00:34:35,931 It's every prosecutor's worst nightmare is that you convict an innocent person. 529 00:34:35,965 --> 00:34:38,310 And here, they didn't even do anything wrong. 530 00:34:38,344 --> 00:34:41,034 They were kind of asking themselves, "Should we have known? 531 00:34:41,068 --> 00:34:42,758 Were there warning signs here?" 532 00:34:42,793 --> 00:34:44,206 And they couldn't really find any. 533 00:34:45,793 --> 00:34:49,482 I just think, there was in some sense, 534 00:34:49,517 --> 00:34:53,379 just the overriding concern 535 00:34:53,413 --> 00:34:57,896 that we have got to get Laverne Pavlinac and John Sosnovske out, 536 00:34:57,931 --> 00:35:02,896 because the more I learned, the more I believed they were not responsible, 537 00:35:02,931 --> 00:35:05,655 and that's an injustice that has to be corrected. 538 00:35:15,793 --> 00:35:20,310 My immediate thought when I heard that we have two people in jail, 539 00:35:20,344 --> 00:35:25,103 on long sentences, Laverne Pavlinac and John Sosnovske, 540 00:35:25,137 --> 00:35:30,413 and at the very least, we don't have proof beyond a reasonable doubt anymore, 541 00:35:31,689 --> 00:35:33,551 and we've got to act to get them out. 542 00:35:35,103 --> 00:35:37,310 It's actually a lot harder to get 543 00:35:37,344 --> 00:35:39,827 an innocent person out of custody than you would think. 544 00:35:39,862 --> 00:35:42,586 This was a case where the district attorney's office 545 00:35:42,620 --> 00:35:45,241 was agreeing to vacate the convictions, 546 00:35:45,275 --> 00:35:47,103 but you still need a legal basis for it. 547 00:35:47,137 --> 00:35:49,551 It took months to investigate 548 00:35:49,586 --> 00:35:52,827 to the point that law enforcement became convinced 549 00:35:52,862 --> 00:35:56,827 that Laverne and John were completely uninvolved in this. 550 00:36:00,275 --> 00:36:04,000 Laverne Pavlinac and John Sosnovske are released from jail. 551 00:36:05,793 --> 00:36:06,724 Hi! 552 00:36:08,241 --> 00:36:09,620 You look nice. 553 00:36:09,655 --> 00:36:12,034 Laverne Pavlinac was a troubled woman 554 00:36:12,068 --> 00:36:14,137 when you look back at her past. 555 00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:18,482 I mean, to falsely confess to the rape and murder of a young woman 556 00:36:18,517 --> 00:36:20,344 so she could get out of what she called 557 00:36:20,379 --> 00:36:23,310 an abusive relationship with her boyfriend. 558 00:36:25,724 --> 00:36:29,724 That false confession completely derailed 559 00:36:30,724 --> 00:36:31,896 the investigation. 560 00:36:49,896 --> 00:36:54,344 I can only think that you'd have to be really desperate to do something 561 00:36:54,379 --> 00:36:59,034 this outlandish. 562 00:36:59,068 --> 00:37:02,724 In putting yourself even in peril and implicating yourself in some 563 00:37:02,758 --> 00:37:05,310 very grotesque activity and violent activity. 564 00:37:05,344 --> 00:37:09,965 And she did claim many times that John Sosnovske was abusive with her. 565 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,551 She lost her liberty for years because of it, and this guy got away with it. 566 00:37:39,586 --> 00:37:41,586 The real killer got away with it for years. 567 00:37:44,344 --> 00:37:49,275 You have to ask yourself, how many other women died 568 00:37:49,310 --> 00:37:51,896 because of that false confession. 569 00:37:51,931 --> 00:37:54,758 You would think that Keith Jesperson's confession, 570 00:37:54,793 --> 00:37:59,620 those letters to the media, to the courthouse, the letter to his brother, 571 00:37:59,655 --> 00:38:01,344 in which he confesses to these murders, 572 00:38:01,379 --> 00:38:03,689 you would think that would be enough for police to go forward, 573 00:38:03,724 --> 00:38:05,620 but they run forensic evidence. 574 00:38:05,655 --> 00:38:07,482 They need to make absolutely sure 575 00:38:07,517 --> 00:38:09,965 that Keith Jesperson is not also giving them 576 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,758 a false confession just for the media exposure. 577 00:38:13,793 --> 00:38:16,655 They match the handwriting with a handwriting analyst, 578 00:38:16,689 --> 00:38:20,275 they check the fingerprints and the saliva on the envelopes 579 00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:21,655 in which the letters were sent, 580 00:38:21,689 --> 00:38:25,827 and yes, it all matches Keith Jesperson. 581 00:38:25,862 --> 00:38:31,137 Eventually we were able to tie Jesperson to eight victims. 582 00:38:31,172 --> 00:38:34,965 At the time, some of the victims were unidentified by the agency. 583 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,793 In one particular case, they didn't even know they had a victim. 584 00:38:41,172 --> 00:38:44,965 Keith Jesperson is a classic power control serial killer, 585 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,827 and it is the most common type of serial killer, 586 00:38:47,862 --> 00:38:50,275 people who feel stripped of their power 587 00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:51,862 and very often their masculinity. 588 00:38:52,965 --> 00:38:56,862 They need to have a sense of playing God. 589 00:38:56,896 --> 00:39:01,310 And nothing is more typical of a power control killer than strangulation. 590 00:39:01,344 --> 00:39:03,862 Why? He's not trying to kill her. 591 00:39:03,896 --> 00:39:06,344 He's trying to have power over her. 592 00:39:06,379 --> 00:39:11,551 He wants to be admired by how he was so successful at being "Happy Face Killer," 593 00:39:11,586 --> 00:39:15,172 a serial killer, and killing all these women. 594 00:39:15,206 --> 00:39:19,413 Keith Jesperson was very good about remembering all the details 595 00:39:19,448 --> 00:39:22,827 about how he killed someone, where he left the body, 596 00:39:22,862 --> 00:39:26,758 But he often got their names wrong or mixed up their names, 597 00:39:26,793 --> 00:39:28,586 and I thought that was chilling. 598 00:39:50,827 --> 00:39:53,241 These people were daughters, 599 00:39:53,275 --> 00:39:57,413 in some cases mothers, and that can never be forgotten 600 00:39:57,448 --> 00:40:01,655 because that points to just how heinous these crimes were, 601 00:40:01,689 --> 00:40:07,310 and that a monster is finally put away for these crimes. 602 00:40:07,344 --> 00:40:11,068 I can't even put into words how you feel about 603 00:40:11,103 --> 00:40:12,413 somebody that killed your sister. 604 00:40:13,241 --> 00:40:16,206 She was just a kind person 605 00:40:16,241 --> 00:40:19,172 that always was kind to everybody. 606 00:40:19,206 --> 00:40:20,517 She paid attention to everybody, 607 00:40:20,551 --> 00:40:22,034 wanted to be everybody's friend. 608 00:40:23,931 --> 00:40:25,172 It's hard... 609 00:40:25,862 --> 00:40:27,172 'cause she's not here no more. 610 00:40:30,310 --> 00:40:35,517 My mom wasn't just a transient or whatever the media 611 00:40:35,551 --> 00:40:36,551 has made her out to be, 612 00:40:36,586 --> 00:40:39,827 she was a kind, loving soul, 613 00:40:39,862 --> 00:40:45,241 and... tried to stay positive and didn't want to hurt anybody. 614 00:40:45,275 --> 00:40:49,379 She just wanted to be peaceful and do her journey. 615 00:40:50,413 --> 00:40:51,724 We lost a good person. 616 00:40:55,689 --> 00:40:59,344 Keith Jesperson is very proud of the crimes that he's committed. 617 00:40:59,379 --> 00:41:01,000 He likes that recognition. 618 00:41:01,034 --> 00:41:03,931 He wants to be a serial killer because he wants to be able 619 00:41:03,965 --> 00:41:07,551 to be well known amongst everybody 620 00:41:07,586 --> 00:41:10,241 as being a notorious serial killer. 621 00:41:10,275 --> 00:41:14,275 Without that, Keith Jesperson would be a nobody. 622 00:41:14,310 --> 00:41:16,000 I am the Happy Face Killer. 623 00:41:16,034 --> 00:41:18,379 -There's no doubt? -There is no doubt in my mind. 624 00:41:21,482 --> 00:41:26,655 Keith Jesperson has been linked to eight murders between 1990 to 1995. 625 00:41:26,689 --> 00:41:29,034 He's serving multiple consecutive life sentences 626 00:41:29,068 --> 00:41:31,241 in the Oregon State Penitentiary, 627 00:41:31,275 --> 00:41:33,965 without the possibility of parole. 628 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,448 On April 13th 2022, one of his Jane Doe victims was identified 629 00:41:38,482 --> 00:41:40,241 as Patricia Skiple. 630 00:41:40,275 --> 00:41:42,793 She is believed to be his fifth victim. 631 00:41:42,827 --> 00:41:44,448 Her identification was made possible 632 00:41:44,482 --> 00:41:47,034 by advancements in DNA technology. 633 00:41:47,068 --> 00:41:48,620 Skiple's family is grateful 634 00:41:48,655 --> 00:41:50,931 she finally has her name back. 635 00:41:50,965 --> 00:41:54,448 Two other victims, one in California and one in Florida, 636 00:41:54,482 --> 00:41:56,448 are still on unidentified. 637 00:41:56,482 --> 00:41:58,931 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. Thanks for watching. 638 00:41:58,965 --> 00:41:59,793 Good night. 53248

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