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Welcome to Very Scary People.
I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
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Julie Winningham's
family and friends
would describe her
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as kind, warm,
and free-spirited.
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So when the 41-year-old's body
was found off a remote road
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in the Columbia River Gorge,
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her loved ones
couldn't imagine
who would want to kill her.
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But as police start
investigating her murder,
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they discover more bodies
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and a shocking link
to a letter
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sent to The Oregonian
newspaper a year before.
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Here's part two
of the Happy Face Killer.
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January 22nd, 1990,
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police would receive a call
of a female body
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that had been spotted
down the incline
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at the Columbia River Gorge.
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Her body was found
partially unclothed, um,
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her pants had been
pulled down,
her top was up.
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The woman had a rope
around her neck.
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She had been strangled.
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She'd been strangled.
She'd been beaten badly.
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They wanted to identify her.
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So I had to think of something
to identify her.
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All I could think of
is she had very flat feet
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and she had a mole
on her hand.
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She confirmed
that it was indeed her sister,
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Taunja Bennett.
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Laverne Pavlinac confessed
that she was there
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when her boyfriend
John Sosnovske
killed Taunja Bennett.
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Both Laverne Pavlinac
and John Sosnovske
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are charged with the murder
of 23-year-old Taunja Bennett.
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The Oregonian
received a letter from
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a person that they deemed
the Happy Face Killer.
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And the reason they deem
that is it was marked
with a happy face.
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The letters detailed five, um,
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homicides that they claimed
responsibility for,
including Taunja Bennett.
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Was he playing some kind
of cat and mouse game?
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It was pretty obvious
this wasn't a hoax.
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In 1994, the Internet
was just starting
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to become a big thing.
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And, uh, newspapers,
like The Oregonian,
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had the resources
to turn reporters,
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like Phil Stanford,
loose on important stories.
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And he found a lot
of facts that pointed
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toward the letter
being an authentic
confession letter.
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Law enforcement did
investigate the letters,
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trying to identify
who the author might be.
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and to line up those, uh,
claimed homicides
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with actual cases.
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Um, they did pull fingerprints
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and DNA from the letters,
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but there was nothing
in the database
to match them to.
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Unfortunately, these letters
didn't really open
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any new avenues
of investigation,
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'cause there was
no indication of who was
writing the letters.
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There was no way to prove
who had authored them.
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Even though
they have the six-page letter,
which speaks specifically
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about the 1990 murder
of Taunja Bennett,
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authorities don't
re-open the case
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because they believe
they have the right people
in prison,
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John Sosnovske
and Laverne Pavlinac.
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I was actually surprised
after the series ran
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that there wasn't an uproar
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from the Multnomah County,
uh, District Attorney's office
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or the Sheriff's Office.
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There was nothing.
They didn't re-open
an investigation.
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They just did nothing
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and life went on.
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It was a year later,
as I recall...
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...that a woman was murdered.
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March 11th, 1995,
was a Saturday.
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Um, I was on days off,
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and so, I received a call
about 4:00 PM
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that a, uh, passerby
had stopped along, uh,
Highway 14,
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um, to urinate off the side
of the road where
he couldn't be seen.
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Highway 14 basically travels
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east and west through
the Columbia River Gorge.
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As he was doing that,
he noticed what he initially
thought was a mannequin.
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But as he looked at it
a little closer,
a little harder
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from where he stood,
he saw fingernail polish
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and those kind of things
that indicated
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it may not be a mannequin,
it may be human remains.
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As I approached the scene,
I'm looking for any signs
of her clothing.
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I'm looking for signs
of any identification,
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I'm looking for signs
of maybe a purse
or a wallet,
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and I found none in the area.
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Um, it was just a nude woman
with, with no clothing there,
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no, um, forms
of identification.
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What we did
is load her into, um,
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a transport vehicle
and took her to the
Clark County Coroner's Office.
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The medical examiner
concludes that this woman
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died of manual strangulation.
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Once we knew that
it was caused by another,
being a homicide,
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now we need to identify
who this person is.
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They lift
her fingerprints
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and match them
to a set in the system.
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Those fingerprints
were put into the, uh,
national database,
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um, where we were able
to determine her identity
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as Julie Winningham.
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Julie was my mother
and I was her only son.
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She was truly a kind-hearted,
free-spirited...
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Loved to travel.
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She just wasn't
a negative soul.
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She was loving and caring,
she didn't do people wrong.
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The Taunja Bennett murder
happened in 1990
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and her body is dumped
in the Columbia River Gorge.
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Five years later, in 1995,
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Julie Winningham's body
is found
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in the Columbia River Gorge
on the Washington side.
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Nobody knows yet
that those two murders
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are connected
to the same person.
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Once we identified
who she is,
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then our next step is to
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talk to Julie's friends
and family to figure out
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who she was last with,
when she was last seen.
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According to detectives,
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friends of Julie Winningham
confirmed
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that she had been seen
with a very large man,
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and that these two
had become very close.
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This man was
a long haul truck driver,
drove a big blue truck.
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One of the people
we spoke with,
a friend of Julie's,
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was Bonnie Valenstein.
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She actually described
that she had
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bought a car from Julie
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a few weeks prior
to her disappearance.
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There was this large man,
actually signed it
as a witness.
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And so we're thinking,
"Okay, we're gonna have
a signature.
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This is too easy.
It can't be that easy.
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It's not gonna pan out
as we hope."
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However, when she showed us
the bill of sale,
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the signature
was pretty clear.
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But in addition to that,
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the signer had actually
printed his name,
Keith Hunter Jesperson.
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And that's the first time
that we had that information,
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as far as who this
truck driver was.
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Detectives are able
to track down the truck
of Keith Jesperson
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to a company
in Spokane, Washington.
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And they do confirm
that Keith Jesperson
is a truck driver for them.
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And in fact, he's on
a long haul right now.
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He's driving a truck
down the California coast
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to go to Las Cruces,
New Mexico.
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And he is scheduled
to arrive in two days.
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Police get on a flight
to Las Cruces
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and are there waiting for him
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when the truck pulls in
with its delivery.
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At that stage,
all we knew is that
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this guy's a very large man,
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and that if he resists,
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it's going to be a struggle
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to get him into custody
and restrained.
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And so, um,
we had to prepare
for the worst.
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But once he came to the gate,
the officer was there,
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uh, explained,
"Just park your truck here.
Follow me on foot."
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And as we approached him
and identified ourselves
as detectives,
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he just didn't seem
to be bothered by it.
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Didn't seem to be threatened
in any way.
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Um, he was very, uh, calm,
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um, was very cooperative,
wanted to help us.
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Even not knowing
what the investigation
was for,
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he still was willing
to talk to us.
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It wasn't until we actually
got into the interview room
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that we told him,
"We're actually from
the state of Washington
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and we're
investigating the death
of Julie Winningham."
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He's incredibly talkative,
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but he only wants
to talk about
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how great Keith Jesperson is.
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He's friendly,
he's cooperative,
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but he denies any knowledge
of what happened
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to Julie Winningham.
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As we interviewed him,
he had described that
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they had actually met
two years before.
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Had a romantic relationship
at that point in time,
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that, uh, Julie had actually
accompanied him
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on several runs,
uh, driving truck.
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They went down to California,
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they went
to Yakima, Washington.
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From my understanding,
my mother had met Keith
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three years prior to '95,
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because she knew
other truck drivers
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and hung out
at the truck stops, and...
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So, somehow,
she reconnected with Keith
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and they spent about
three weeks in town together.
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Keith described
that about the first week
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in March '95,
that he'd again saw her,
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uh, at a truck stop,
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and that they struck up
a conversation again,
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kinda started the relationship
over again.
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At this stage, he described
that it was kinda one-sided,
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that he really
didn't care for her,
is how he described it,
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that he felt that
she was actually only with him
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because he was
buying her things.
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But that she was willing
to have sex with him.
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She was beautiful,
kind-hearted,
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but at the same time,
she was a very weak soul.
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Even though she was
a free-spirited soul.
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So I think that's
what drew him in.
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Because he's such
a negative person.
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I don't know.
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But that's what I think
drew him in.
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Detectives felt that
Keith Jesperson
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was hiding information
about Julie,
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but didn't have
enough evidence to arrest him.
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Though Detective Buettner
gave Jesperson his card,
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telling him to call him
if he has anything
further to say.
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When those detectives
return home
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from New Mexico on March 24th,
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they receive a message
from Keith Jesperson.
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He says,
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"This is Keith
Hunter Jesperson."
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Jesperson
admitted that
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he was waiting
in his truck for Julie.
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Julie showed up,
had some pizza,
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they had consensual sex.
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They then were talking about
some other things.
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Jesperson said he wanted
to have sex again.
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Julie told him,
"Well, I don't want to."
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And then Jesperson said,
"Well, what if
I do it anyway?"
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She told him,
"Well, then,
that would be rape.
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And I would have
to report that."
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That angered Jesperson.
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And at that point,
he said he strangled her.
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Everything he told us
confirmed that he had indeed
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killed Julie Winningham
by strangling her,
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and then dumped her body
in Skamania County
in the Columbia Gorge.
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And within, uh,
a short amount of time,
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Keith Jesperson was taken
into custody for the murder
of Julie Winningham.
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Keith Hunter Jesperson
was born in 1955
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to his father Leslie
and mother Gladys Jesperson
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in the little rural town
of Chilliwack,
British Columbia.
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He was the middle
of five children,
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with two brothers
and two sisters.
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Keith was considered
the slowest
of the Jesperson children.
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They say he often dawdled,
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and would like to spend
a lot of time by himself,
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isolating himself.
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He was sort of
the black sheep of the family.
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His father was pretty abusive,
is what I understand,
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towards Keith only.
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And his father was a drinker
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and that Keith got
the blunt of it.
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Keith's father
made his children work
every single day.
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And if the children
made any sign of laziness,
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he would beat them
with a leather belt.
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He reports physical abuse
coming from his dad,
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and how his father often
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made him feel like
an inconvenience.
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Like someone
just to be tolerated.
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In spite of all this,
Keith would insist
that his father Leslie
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was one of the best dads
a kid could have.
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His dad was well known
in the community.
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He probably had his father
up on a pedestal,
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which makes it
even more challenging
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when you're trying
to be recognized,
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when Dad is almost
a superhero.
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The relationship
with his mother,
distant emotionally.
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It shouldn't
be a surprise that
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an individual
who has very little,
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if not any
emotional connection
with his mother...
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...ends up being able
to perpetrate violence
against women.
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The family moves
to the small town
in Washington called Selah.
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Keith just seemed to me,
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um, an ex-classmate
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that I feel like I never knew.
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I first met Keith
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as a freshman in high school.
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I'm only 4'9",
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and Keith is, like, 6'7".
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So, he towered me.
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Keith didn't do
very well in school.
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He was very large
and uncoordinated,
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and the other kids
made fun of him
and even bullied him.
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Keith tried
really hard to try to fit in.
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He was trying
to get attention at school
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'cause he wasn't
getting it at home.
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Course, we never did
to his face,
but unfortunately,
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because of his size,
we would call him Baby Huey.
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It was a cartoon character
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back in the late
'60s and '70s.
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Keith grew up
experiencing physical abuse
from his parents,
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experiencing bullying
from his peers.
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And what we know
about that is,
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somebody who is victimized
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learns the role of the victim,
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but also, potentially,
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the role of the abuser.
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In his teens,
Keith Jesperson didn't have
a lot of luck with girls,
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but when he was
20 years old in 1975,
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he married 18-year-old
Rose Pernick,
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and together
they had three children.
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Say hi, Grandpa.
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Hi, sweetheart.
I see your new boots.
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-See?
-Holy smoke.
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You have new boots!
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They built
a marriage that worked,
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at least fundamentally,
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in terms of Keith
supporting his family
by working,
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and her maintaining the home
and raising the children.
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Now what do I do
to get it going?
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I don't know
if I like this!
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Keith!
Keep your feet up.
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Keith was just
the traditional dad.
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He did the work,
his wife Rose stayed at home.
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And the kids in the household
seemed very normal.
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Eat it.
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Mmm!
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Keith was able
to make a good living
as a long haul truck driver.
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But he's off driving
around the country
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for weeks at a time sometimes.
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And, uh, he's physically
and emotionally away
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from his wife,
away from his children.
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According to Keith,
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he and Rose had
the normal kind
of sexual relationship
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in their marriage
in the early years.
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But then things grew stale.
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Once he became
a long haul trucker,
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it was kind of easy
to pick up girls
at the truck stops,
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and he was seeing girls
on the side.
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Keith's marriage
completely falls apart.
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He loses his job,
they lose the house,
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he ends up starting to date
another woman.
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And then he and Rose
get divorced.
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And so, financially,
he's really sliding quickly.
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He has to go out
on the roads to work more,
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which further isolates him
from his children.
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When you started
to peel off the layers
of his life,
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then you came
to find out later
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from his daughter
and from other people,
some disturbing elements.
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According to
Keith Jesperson's
daughter, Melissa,
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when they were living
in Washington state
and she was about
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five years old, their cat
had a litter of kittens
in the basement.
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And Keith took these
kittens and hung them
by their tails
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from the clothesline.
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Later, Melissa reports
she found all of the kittens
dead in the backyard.
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I was six years old
when I saw my dad
kill my kittens
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that I had found,
and that's when it hit me
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that something's very dark
and different about my dad.
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Melissa reports
that when she was 13,
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her father told her
that he could kill a woman
and get away with it.
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He told her that he had
literally killed a woman
and cut the buttons
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off her clothing to get
rid of any possibility
of fingerprints
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on those buttons.
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And that he would wear
cycling shoes to make sure
he didn't leave any
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footprints in the mud.
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Welcome back to
Very Scary People.
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Keith Hunter Jesperson
confesses to murdering
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his girlfriend
Julie Winningham
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and dumping her body
in the Columbia River Gorge.
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Seems like a cut and dry case,
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until detectives hear
from Keith's brother Brad.
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He tells them he has
a letter they need to see
immediately.
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So, this is the letter
that Keith Jesperson
wrote to his brother, Brad,
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on March 24th, 1995.
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This is when he's being
questioned about
Julie Winningham's murder,
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he says, "Hi, Brad...
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He's arrested for
the Julie Winningham murder.
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At that point, he makes
a phone call to his brother,
Brad, and says...
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"Destroy the letter."
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So, on one hand he's saying,
"I wanna be caught,
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but not really."
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He had told Keith
that he had destroyed it,
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but, in fact, he didn't
destroy it,
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and he provided our
officers with the letter.
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In the letter, he talks
about how he had killed
multiple women by that point.
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And so, that was our
first concrete information
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of our worst nightmare
that there are more victims
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that Keith Jesperson
had murdered.
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This is an unbelievable
development.
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Detectives believed that they
had a person who killed
his girlfriend.
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Never did they think
that they had a serial
killer on their hands.
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It's terrifying information
because now we know
of multiple victims,
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we don't know where.
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We don't know how to
possibly track these
victims down,
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how to identify 'em,
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how to verify that, maybe,
a victim in another State
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whose body was recovered,
that was the beginning
of the hard work
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in that investigation.
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So, in 1995, the way
to communicate with
other agencies
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was to send out
what we referred to
as a teletype,
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basically it was a message
sent out through a computer
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that goes to all law
enforcement agencies,
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that we have somebody
that's admitting to killing
multiple women,
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that he is a long haul
truck driver.
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Up to this point, we know
that his method of murder
was strangulation.
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It may or may not be similar.
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That he is known
to dump his victims
off the side of the road,
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along major highways.
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Please contact us if you have
anything, um, that you are
aware of,
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that you have not solved
up to this point.
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As he's confessing
to these crimes,
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they're realizing
only a killer would know
this information.
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00:24:27,172 --> 00:24:30,827
Now they're questioning
the Taunja Bennett murder
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saying there's a good
chance he did do this
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and that two innocent people
are in jail.
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00:24:39,689 --> 00:24:41,965
My role in
the Jesperson case started
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after he got arrested
for killing
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his girlfriend
in Clark County, Washington.
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We got a call from
a detective over there
who said,
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00:24:49,344 --> 00:24:54,241
"We've got a person
in custody on one of
our homicides.
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And the word is that
he has committed
some other murders,
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and very specifically,
he's... the word is that
he killed a female
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in Multnomah county
named Taunja Bennett.
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00:25:05,448 --> 00:25:08,448
And that he's aware
of the fact that some
people were in prison
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00:25:08,482 --> 00:25:09,379
for that murder."
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The first time I met
Keith Jesperson,
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I was a little bit surprised
because he came across as
the farm boy next door.
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00:25:27,068 --> 00:25:29,000
He didn't use a lot
of swear words,
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00:25:29,034 --> 00:25:30,724
he didn't act like
a tough guy.
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00:25:30,758 --> 00:25:32,931
he wasn't covered with
jailhouse tattoos,
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00:25:32,965 --> 00:25:35,000
and he was very friendly
with me.
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00:25:35,034 --> 00:25:38,000
He appeared to enjoy
talking to me.
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He wasn't running from me
in terms of what he was
saying.
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00:25:41,655 --> 00:25:43,172
I interviewed him four times.
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But the initial interview
was very simple,
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and he told me that
he had killed Taunja Bennett
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in 1990.
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00:26:16,068 --> 00:26:19,586
He said that he'd gone
to the BNI Tavern,
he'd lived on a home nearby.
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00:26:19,620 --> 00:26:24,517
He'd gone to the BNI Tavern
and he saw Taunja Bennett
in there,
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00:26:24,551 --> 00:26:26,206
and there was some
interaction.
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And then
he left the BNI for a while,
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00:26:52,655 --> 00:26:54,931
and he came back,
and Taunja was there.
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And there was a conversation
about getting something to eat
at a nearby restaurant.
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00:27:01,034 --> 00:27:03,620
But he explains to her
he has to run home
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00:27:03,655 --> 00:27:05,413
because he doesn't
have any money with him.
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So, she goes with him
to his home,
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and while they're there,
they never end up
going to dinner,
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but they do end up having sex.
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He said that she
agreed to have sex with him
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on a mattress
in the living room.
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And that happened,
according to Jesperson.
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And at some point,
she said something
that offended Jesperson,
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00:27:27,862 --> 00:27:31,103
and he said he decided
he was gonna kill her.
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00:28:12,034 --> 00:28:14,862
He apparently
strangled her.
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And left her in his home,
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00:28:17,137 --> 00:28:21,310
where he was living with
another woman who was
also out of town,
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00:28:21,344 --> 00:28:23,241
she was a truck driver.
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00:28:23,275 --> 00:28:26,724
He went back to
the BNI Tavern because
he wanted to establish
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00:28:26,758 --> 00:28:31,310
an alibi about where
he was all afternoon
and evening.
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00:28:44,068 --> 00:28:47,896
He became very concerned
about the potential
for forensic evidence,
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00:28:47,931 --> 00:28:52,206
and was afraid that his
fingerprints might be
on the zipper tab.
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00:28:52,241 --> 00:28:56,758
So he cut the fly
out of her jeans so he could
take the fingerprint with him.
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00:28:56,793 --> 00:28:59,517
Then he went back
to the home where
he's killed Taunja,
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00:28:59,551 --> 00:29:03,586
and picked her up,
and took her out
to the dump site
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00:29:03,620 --> 00:29:05,758
which was in
the Columbia River Gorge.
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00:29:16,206 --> 00:29:19,137
I'm told, the moment
at which law enforcement
really did believe
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00:29:19,172 --> 00:29:22,310
that Keith Jesperson
was involved in Taunja
Bennett's murder...
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00:29:22,344 --> 00:29:25,344
was he took them
out to the Columbia Gorge.
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00:29:26,724 --> 00:29:30,965
Taunja Bennett's mother
had said that she left
with a purse,
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00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,517
and her Walkman,
and they had never
found her purse.
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00:29:35,034 --> 00:29:38,793
And when Jesperson
confessed to killing
Bennett,
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00:29:38,827 --> 00:29:42,310
he described her purse
and said that he tossed it.
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00:29:42,344 --> 00:29:45,517
And he pointed to an area
in the gorge and he said,
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00:29:45,551 --> 00:29:47,000
"That's where I left
her purse."
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00:29:48,379 --> 00:29:50,965
So0 the police brought out
Explorer scouts,
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00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,034
who are, you know students
who want to be
police officers,
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00:29:53,068 --> 00:29:54,586
and gave them
hacksaws and said,
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00:29:54,620 --> 00:29:55,896
"Were looking for a purse."
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00:29:57,344 --> 00:29:59,758
And they were
about to call it in
and one of the kids said,
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00:29:59,793 --> 00:30:01,827
"I've got a purse."
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00:30:01,862 --> 00:30:04,551
It had Taunja Bennett's
ID card in it still.
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00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,103
There was a search warrant
that would allow, uh,
the detectives to actually
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00:30:24,137 --> 00:30:26,965
have Jesperson write down
some things
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00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,655
that they tell him
to write down.
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00:30:28,689 --> 00:30:32,344
And with that paper,
and as well as any
letters that he
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00:30:32,379 --> 00:30:33,896
is suspected of writing,
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00:30:33,931 --> 00:30:37,000
it goes to
a handwriting expert
who does a comparison.
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00:30:38,068 --> 00:30:40,103
And the letter
to The Oregonian
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00:30:40,137 --> 00:30:42,655
and the letter to Brad
were verified by the expert
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00:30:42,689 --> 00:30:45,448
as being written and authored
by Keith Jesperson.
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00:30:46,551 --> 00:30:47,551
"The Happy Face Killer."
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00:30:49,517 --> 00:30:52,068
They were also able to get DNA
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00:30:52,103 --> 00:30:55,206
from one of the letters,
"The Happy Face Killer"
letters,
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00:30:55,241 --> 00:30:58,551
that they were able
to match to Keith
Jesperson's DNA.
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00:30:58,586 --> 00:31:01,000
So, at that point it was
very clear that
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00:31:01,034 --> 00:31:03,586
he had written the letters.
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00:31:03,620 --> 00:31:07,758
It all started to come out
and it all started to mirror
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00:31:07,793 --> 00:31:11,517
what he had written
to The Oregonian
the year before,
476
00:31:11,551 --> 00:31:15,379
what he had written
on the bathroom walls.
477
00:31:15,413 --> 00:31:19,517
It all came crashing down
on Keith Jesperson.
478
00:31:22,206 --> 00:31:23,931
When things
started to quiet down,
479
00:31:23,965 --> 00:31:25,931
he would spark interest again
480
00:31:25,965 --> 00:31:28,241
by bringing up things
that he'd done.
481
00:31:28,275 --> 00:31:32,275
He would write letters
to media outlets
and want to be interviewed.
482
00:31:32,310 --> 00:31:35,206
And saying,
"Hey, I'm confessing
to these crimes
483
00:31:35,241 --> 00:31:36,551
and nobody is listening
to me."
484
00:31:48,241 --> 00:31:52,034
He reaches out to KATU
Television Station
485
00:31:52,068 --> 00:31:56,793
and has a conversation
with our reporter Bob Heye.
486
00:31:56,827 --> 00:31:59,931
In that conversation,
he is repeatedly asked,
487
00:31:59,965 --> 00:32:01,448
"Are you
the Happy Face Killer?"
488
00:32:06,724 --> 00:32:10,275
Each time, Keith Jesperson
says, "Yes, I am."
489
00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:13,655
Bob Heye also asks him,
"Why did you do it?"
490
00:32:13,689 --> 00:32:16,758
And he can't explain it,
he says, "I don't know."
491
00:32:35,862 --> 00:32:37,344
Why would he do this?
492
00:32:37,379 --> 00:32:40,413
Well, Jesperson says
that he was courting
the media
493
00:32:40,448 --> 00:32:42,172
because two people
494
00:32:42,206 --> 00:32:44,275
were wrongfully imprisoned
in jail,
495
00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:45,758
and he needed the media's help
496
00:32:45,793 --> 00:32:47,482
to get the evidence out there,
497
00:32:47,517 --> 00:32:49,965
so that these two people
could be freed
498
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,448
because he was indeed
the Happy Face Killer.
499
00:32:52,482 --> 00:32:55,827
And the question remains,
did he really feel bad
about these two people
500
00:32:55,862 --> 00:32:59,689
who are imprisoned,
or is he just dancing
with the media
501
00:32:59,724 --> 00:33:03,000
because he wants
the limelight to be
focused on him?
502
00:33:04,931 --> 00:33:09,413
Now, the focus turns
to Laverne Pavlinac
and John Sosnovske
503
00:33:09,448 --> 00:33:11,551
who're sitting in prison.
504
00:33:11,586 --> 00:33:13,206
Remember
Laverne Pavlinac,
505
00:33:13,241 --> 00:33:15,103
she confessed
that she was there
506
00:33:15,137 --> 00:33:19,034
when her boyfriend
John Sosnovske
killed Taunja Bennett.
507
00:33:19,068 --> 00:33:21,344
Though she recanted
her confession at trial,
508
00:33:21,379 --> 00:33:24,689
she was convicted,
and they had both been
in prison for four years.
509
00:33:26,758 --> 00:33:29,068
It was almost
unbelievable.
510
00:33:29,103 --> 00:33:33,068
You have a serial killer
confessing to a crime
that two people
511
00:33:33,103 --> 00:33:36,034
are sitting in jail for
right now.
512
00:33:36,068 --> 00:33:38,103
You have a case
where you have
513
00:33:38,137 --> 00:33:44,000
three people
all taking responsibility
for a crime.
514
00:33:44,034 --> 00:33:47,586
No one seemed to have
coerced or lead their
confessions,
515
00:33:47,620 --> 00:33:51,241
they all seem to have
information that only
the killer would know.
516
00:33:52,586 --> 00:33:55,137
You normally have zero people
claiming responsibility.
517
00:33:57,068 --> 00:34:00,551
I would say one of my
greatest nightmares
in taking a job
518
00:34:00,586 --> 00:34:02,724
as a Deputy District Attorney
519
00:34:02,758 --> 00:34:05,206
is the idea of convicting
an innocent person.
520
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:12,034
There was also
the possibility that Jesperson
could have been involved,
521
00:34:12,068 --> 00:34:15,896
but he could've done it
with Laverne and John.
522
00:34:15,931 --> 00:34:18,724
You've really
got to be confident
you're getting it right
523
00:34:18,758 --> 00:34:20,620
before you let two people
who have been convicted
524
00:34:20,655 --> 00:34:22,275
of murder out.
525
00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:24,275
I could see
the district attorneys
526
00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:27,793
who had prosecuted
Laverne and John.
527
00:34:27,827 --> 00:34:31,482
I could see them struggling
with "how did this happen?"
528
00:34:31,517 --> 00:34:35,931
It's every prosecutor's
worst nightmare is that you
convict an innocent person.
529
00:34:35,965 --> 00:34:38,310
And here, they didn't even
do anything wrong.
530
00:34:38,344 --> 00:34:41,034
They were kind of
asking themselves,
"Should we have known?
531
00:34:41,068 --> 00:34:42,758
Were there warning signs
here?"
532
00:34:42,793 --> 00:34:44,206
And they couldn't
really find any.
533
00:34:45,793 --> 00:34:49,482
I just think, there was
in some sense,
534
00:34:49,517 --> 00:34:53,379
just the overriding concern
535
00:34:53,413 --> 00:34:57,896
that we have got to get
Laverne Pavlinac
and John Sosnovske out,
536
00:34:57,931 --> 00:35:02,896
because the more I learned,
the more I believed they
were not responsible,
537
00:35:02,931 --> 00:35:05,655
and that's an injustice
that has to be corrected.
538
00:35:15,793 --> 00:35:20,310
My immediate
thought when I heard that
we have two people in jail,
539
00:35:20,344 --> 00:35:25,103
on long sentences,
Laverne Pavlinac
and John Sosnovske,
540
00:35:25,137 --> 00:35:30,413
and at the very least,
we don't have proof beyond
a reasonable doubt anymore,
541
00:35:31,689 --> 00:35:33,551
and we've got to act
to get them out.
542
00:35:35,103 --> 00:35:37,310
It's actually
a lot harder to get
543
00:35:37,344 --> 00:35:39,827
an innocent person
out of custody than
you would think.
544
00:35:39,862 --> 00:35:42,586
This was a case where
the district attorney's office
545
00:35:42,620 --> 00:35:45,241
was agreeing
to vacate the convictions,
546
00:35:45,275 --> 00:35:47,103
but you still need
a legal basis for it.
547
00:35:47,137 --> 00:35:49,551
It took months to investigate
548
00:35:49,586 --> 00:35:52,827
to the point
that law enforcement
became convinced
549
00:35:52,862 --> 00:35:56,827
that Laverne and John
were completely uninvolved
in this.
550
00:36:00,275 --> 00:36:04,000
Laverne Pavlinac
and John Sosnovske
are released from jail.
551
00:36:05,793 --> 00:36:06,724
Hi!
552
00:36:08,241 --> 00:36:09,620
You look nice.
553
00:36:09,655 --> 00:36:12,034
Laverne Pavlinac
was a troubled woman
554
00:36:12,068 --> 00:36:14,137
when you look back
at her past.
555
00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:18,482
I mean, to falsely confess
to the rape and murder
of a young woman
556
00:36:18,517 --> 00:36:20,344
so she could get out
of what she called
557
00:36:20,379 --> 00:36:23,310
an abusive relationship
with her boyfriend.
558
00:36:25,724 --> 00:36:29,724
That false confession
completely derailed
559
00:36:30,724 --> 00:36:31,896
the investigation.
560
00:36:49,896 --> 00:36:54,344
I can only think that
you'd have to be really
desperate to do something
561
00:36:54,379 --> 00:36:59,034
this outlandish.
562
00:36:59,068 --> 00:37:02,724
In putting yourself even
in peril and implicating
yourself in some
563
00:37:02,758 --> 00:37:05,310
very grotesque activity
and violent activity.
564
00:37:05,344 --> 00:37:09,965
And she did claim many times
that John Sosnovske
was abusive with her.
565
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,551
She lost her liberty
for years because of it,
and this guy got away with it.
566
00:37:39,586 --> 00:37:41,586
The real killer
got away with it for years.
567
00:37:44,344 --> 00:37:49,275
You have to ask
yourself, how many other
women died
568
00:37:49,310 --> 00:37:51,896
because of that false
confession.
569
00:37:51,931 --> 00:37:54,758
You would think
that Keith Jesperson's
confession,
570
00:37:54,793 --> 00:37:59,620
those letters to the media,
to the courthouse,
the letter to his brother,
571
00:37:59,655 --> 00:38:01,344
in which he confesses
to these murders,
572
00:38:01,379 --> 00:38:03,689
you would think
that would be enough
for police to go forward,
573
00:38:03,724 --> 00:38:05,620
but they run forensic
evidence.
574
00:38:05,655 --> 00:38:07,482
They need
to make absolutely sure
575
00:38:07,517 --> 00:38:09,965
that Keith Jesperson
is not also giving them
576
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,758
a false confession
just for the media exposure.
577
00:38:13,793 --> 00:38:16,655
They match the handwriting
with a handwriting analyst,
578
00:38:16,689 --> 00:38:20,275
they check the fingerprints
and the saliva on
the envelopes
579
00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:21,655
in which the letters
were sent,
580
00:38:21,689 --> 00:38:25,827
and yes, it all matches
Keith Jesperson.
581
00:38:25,862 --> 00:38:31,137
Eventually
we were able to tie Jesperson
to eight victims.
582
00:38:31,172 --> 00:38:34,965
At the time,
some of the victims were
unidentified by the agency.
583
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,793
In one particular case,
they didn't even know
they had a victim.
584
00:38:41,172 --> 00:38:44,965
Keith Jesperson is a classic
power control serial killer,
585
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,827
and it is the most common
type of serial killer,
586
00:38:47,862 --> 00:38:50,275
people who feel
stripped of their power
587
00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:51,862
and very often
their masculinity.
588
00:38:52,965 --> 00:38:56,862
They need to have a sense
of playing God.
589
00:38:56,896 --> 00:39:01,310
And nothing is more typical
of a power control killer
than strangulation.
590
00:39:01,344 --> 00:39:03,862
Why? He's not trying
to kill her.
591
00:39:03,896 --> 00:39:06,344
He's trying to have power
over her.
592
00:39:06,379 --> 00:39:11,551
He wants to be admired
by how he was so successful
at being "Happy Face Killer,"
593
00:39:11,586 --> 00:39:15,172
a serial killer,
and killing all these women.
594
00:39:15,206 --> 00:39:19,413
Keith Jesperson
was very good about
remembering all the details
595
00:39:19,448 --> 00:39:22,827
about how he killed someone,
where he left the body,
596
00:39:22,862 --> 00:39:26,758
But he often got their names
wrong or mixed up their names,
597
00:39:26,793 --> 00:39:28,586
and I thought
that was chilling.
598
00:39:50,827 --> 00:39:53,241
These people
were daughters,
599
00:39:53,275 --> 00:39:57,413
in some cases mothers,
and that can never be
forgotten
600
00:39:57,448 --> 00:40:01,655
because that points
to just how heinous these
crimes were,
601
00:40:01,689 --> 00:40:07,310
and that a monster
is finally put away
for these crimes.
602
00:40:07,344 --> 00:40:11,068
I can't even put
into words how you feel
about
603
00:40:11,103 --> 00:40:12,413
somebody that killed
your sister.
604
00:40:13,241 --> 00:40:16,206
She was just a kind person
605
00:40:16,241 --> 00:40:19,172
that always was kind
to everybody.
606
00:40:19,206 --> 00:40:20,517
She paid attention
to everybody,
607
00:40:20,551 --> 00:40:22,034
wanted to be
everybody's friend.
608
00:40:23,931 --> 00:40:25,172
It's hard...
609
00:40:25,862 --> 00:40:27,172
'cause she's not here no more.
610
00:40:30,310 --> 00:40:35,517
My mom wasn't just
a transient or whatever
the media
611
00:40:35,551 --> 00:40:36,551
has made her out to be,
612
00:40:36,586 --> 00:40:39,827
she was a kind, loving soul,
613
00:40:39,862 --> 00:40:45,241
and... tried to stay positive
and didn't want to hurt
anybody.
614
00:40:45,275 --> 00:40:49,379
She just wanted to be peaceful
and do her journey.
615
00:40:50,413 --> 00:40:51,724
We lost a good person.
616
00:40:55,689 --> 00:40:59,344
Keith Jesperson
is very proud of the crimes
that he's committed.
617
00:40:59,379 --> 00:41:01,000
He likes that recognition.
618
00:41:01,034 --> 00:41:03,931
He wants to be a serial killer
because he wants to be able
619
00:41:03,965 --> 00:41:07,551
to be well known
amongst everybody
620
00:41:07,586 --> 00:41:10,241
as being
a notorious serial killer.
621
00:41:10,275 --> 00:41:14,275
Without that, Keith Jesperson
would be a nobody.
622
00:41:14,310 --> 00:41:16,000
I am the Happy Face Killer.
623
00:41:16,034 --> 00:41:18,379
-There's no doubt?
-There is no doubt in my mind.
624
00:41:21,482 --> 00:41:26,655
Keith Jesperson has been
linked to eight murders
between 1990 to 1995.
625
00:41:26,689 --> 00:41:29,034
He's serving multiple
consecutive life sentences
626
00:41:29,068 --> 00:41:31,241
in the Oregon State
Penitentiary,
627
00:41:31,275 --> 00:41:33,965
without the possibility
of parole.
628
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,448
On April 13th 2022,
one of his Jane Doe victims
was identified
629
00:41:38,482 --> 00:41:40,241
as Patricia Skiple.
630
00:41:40,275 --> 00:41:42,793
She is believed to be
his fifth victim.
631
00:41:42,827 --> 00:41:44,448
Her identification
was made possible
632
00:41:44,482 --> 00:41:47,034
by advancements
in DNA technology.
633
00:41:47,068 --> 00:41:48,620
Skiple's family is grateful
634
00:41:48,655 --> 00:41:50,931
she finally has her name back.
635
00:41:50,965 --> 00:41:54,448
Two other victims,
one in California
and one in Florida,
636
00:41:54,482 --> 00:41:56,448
are still on unidentified.
637
00:41:56,482 --> 00:41:58,931
I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
Thanks for watching.
638
00:41:58,965 --> 00:41:59,793
Good night.
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