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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,379 --> 00:00:10,689 Hello? Who is this? 2 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:12,862 This is John. 3 00:00:14,103 --> 00:00:15,862 Well, son, have you heard from Susie? 4 00:00:16,448 --> 00:00:17,275 Susie? 5 00:00:20,827 --> 00:00:22,793 Uh... Golly. 6 00:00:23,206 --> 00:00:24,000 No, not for... 7 00:00:25,103 --> 00:00:25,931 Well... 8 00:00:27,206 --> 00:00:28,620 I guess since the first of the month. 9 00:00:30,896 --> 00:00:32,862 I'm really getting very nervous about this. 10 00:00:32,896 --> 00:00:36,896 I don't know if I should maybe call the police or something. 11 00:00:36,931 --> 00:00:37,758 Why? 12 00:00:38,827 --> 00:00:40,000 Hon, she's a big girl. 13 00:01:04,620 --> 00:01:06,413 Welcome to Very Scary People. 14 00:01:06,448 --> 00:01:08,068 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 15 00:01:08,103 --> 00:01:12,000 When Paula Godfrey answered a "Help Wanted" ad for a personal assistant, 16 00:01:12,034 --> 00:01:14,172 it seemed like a great opportunity. 17 00:01:14,206 --> 00:01:17,206 Her job would include benefits plus training and travel. 18 00:01:17,241 --> 00:01:18,827 It sounded too good to be true. 19 00:01:19,551 --> 00:01:20,724 It was. 20 00:01:20,758 --> 00:01:23,034 Almost as soon as Paula started, 21 00:01:23,068 --> 00:01:25,137 her family stopped hearing from her. 22 00:01:25,172 --> 00:01:28,137 Turns out her new boss was not who she thought he was. 23 00:01:28,172 --> 00:01:31,241 In reality, John Robinson was a con man, 24 00:01:31,275 --> 00:01:36,206 with a penchant for rough sex that included bondage, discipline and sadomasochism, 25 00:01:36,896 --> 00:01:38,379 or BDSM. 26 00:01:38,413 --> 00:01:41,172 This is part one of the Slave Master. 27 00:01:57,448 --> 00:02:00,517 On January 9th, 1985, 28 00:02:00,551 --> 00:02:03,724 Lisa Stasi was staying in a motel in Kansas City. 29 00:02:04,482 --> 00:02:06,896 Lisa was 19 at the time 30 00:02:06,931 --> 00:02:09,448 and had a daughter, Tiffany. 31 00:02:09,482 --> 00:02:12,965 Tiffany at the time was under six months of age. 32 00:02:15,137 --> 00:02:18,620 That night, Lisa calls her mother-in-law 33 00:02:18,655 --> 00:02:22,241 and is crying and very upset. 34 00:02:22,275 --> 00:02:26,551 And tells her mother-in-law, "Why are you trying to take my baby away?" 35 00:02:28,689 --> 00:02:32,103 And the mother-in-law says, "We're not trying to take the baby away." 36 00:02:34,655 --> 00:02:39,000 Lisa says, "They've made me sign four blank sheets of paper." 37 00:02:40,344 --> 00:02:41,793 Her mother-in-law said, 38 00:02:41,827 --> 00:02:44,931 "By no means, do not sign anything. 39 00:02:44,965 --> 00:02:47,137 No one's trying to take your baby away from you." 40 00:02:47,931 --> 00:02:50,103 And she heard extreme fear 41 00:02:50,137 --> 00:02:51,758 in her daughter-in-law's voice. 42 00:02:55,758 --> 00:02:57,103 And then Lisa says, 43 00:02:57,137 --> 00:02:59,448 "Here they come. I've gotta go." 44 00:03:01,517 --> 00:03:05,034 And that was the last anyone ever heard from Lisa. 45 00:03:17,827 --> 00:03:19,379 John Robinson had a... 46 00:03:19,413 --> 00:03:22,965 I think a very unique and interesting upbringing. 47 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,620 Just seemed like a average kid. 48 00:03:27,379 --> 00:03:32,172 Robinson was born in late 1943 in Cicero, Illinois. 49 00:03:32,206 --> 00:03:35,241 He grew up in a neighborhood that was sort of renowned 50 00:03:35,275 --> 00:03:39,862 for criminal behavior because Al Capone had, uh, an office there, 51 00:03:39,896 --> 00:03:42,965 and there was a famous shoot-out in the neighborhood. 52 00:03:44,034 --> 00:03:46,137 It was part of the local folklore really. 53 00:03:46,172 --> 00:03:48,517 So, Robinson would have absorbed some of that 54 00:03:48,551 --> 00:03:52,724 and maybe he thought that was something that might help you get ahead in life. 55 00:03:54,517 --> 00:03:57,137 He was the middle child of five. 56 00:03:57,172 --> 00:03:59,482 His father worked as a machinist 57 00:03:59,517 --> 00:04:01,758 and was known as a drinker, 58 00:04:01,793 --> 00:04:04,965 sort of trudging off to work and trudging back. 59 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,551 His mother was known as the disciplinarian in the family. 60 00:04:09,586 --> 00:04:12,241 According to Robinson, she was quite cold, 61 00:04:12,275 --> 00:04:14,896 uh, especially when meting out the discipline. 62 00:04:16,896 --> 00:04:21,206 John Robinson attended the Quigley Preparatory school. 63 00:04:21,241 --> 00:04:24,862 He wanted to attend seminary to become a priest early on. 64 00:04:24,896 --> 00:04:29,241 So, he was, in his youth, quite a straight arrow. 65 00:04:29,275 --> 00:04:33,448 John Robinson was in the Boy Scouts, became an Eagle Scout, 66 00:04:33,482 --> 00:04:38,931 and that group travelled to London to perform in front of Queen Elizabeth and sing. 67 00:04:39,758 --> 00:04:42,275 And backstage, he met Judy Garland 68 00:04:42,310 --> 00:04:44,827 who was also there performing for the Queen. 69 00:04:44,862 --> 00:04:46,724 And he went up to Judy Garland and said, 70 00:04:46,758 --> 00:04:49,068 "We Americans got to stick together." 71 00:04:49,103 --> 00:04:51,862 At which point, she, surprisingly, gave him a kiss on the cheek 72 00:04:51,896 --> 00:04:52,931 and said, "You're right." 73 00:04:55,034 --> 00:04:58,517 This was a very bold move for a 13-year-old. 74 00:04:58,551 --> 00:05:02,862 And later, the encounter was in theChicago Tribune. 75 00:05:03,862 --> 00:05:05,965 I think it just showed that John Robinson 76 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,517 was very personable and a very likable kid. 77 00:05:09,551 --> 00:05:14,103 He really had a way of relating to people and getting them to trust him. 78 00:05:16,896 --> 00:05:20,586 Even in his childhood though, people said that he was a... 79 00:05:21,482 --> 00:05:22,758 a little bit of a con man. 80 00:05:23,689 --> 00:05:25,275 That he manipulated people, 81 00:05:25,310 --> 00:05:29,103 that he did a lot of different things to get what he wanted. 82 00:05:29,137 --> 00:05:31,931 I doubt whether anyone would absolutely believe 83 00:05:31,965 --> 00:05:34,517 that, uh, another person could turn out to be 84 00:05:34,551 --> 00:05:37,137 the kind of person that John Robinson became. 85 00:05:40,551 --> 00:05:44,413 From the very beginning, much of what he did was a scam. 86 00:05:44,448 --> 00:05:48,241 And that scam was at first theft and forgeries, 87 00:05:49,344 --> 00:05:51,793 and later on it would take a human toll. 88 00:05:54,137 --> 00:05:58,793 In 1961, Robinson got a job as an X-ray technician. 89 00:05:58,827 --> 00:06:03,172 He created lot of diplomas that said he was qualified. 90 00:06:03,206 --> 00:06:07,275 But as far as I know, they're all bogus. 91 00:06:07,310 --> 00:06:13,758 Once he began working there, it was noticed that he really didn't know what he was doing. 92 00:06:13,793 --> 00:06:16,862 He had none of the training or knowledge to do that. 93 00:06:16,896 --> 00:06:21,724 He started stealing from his employer so the job didn't last very long. 94 00:06:21,758 --> 00:06:24,827 This was just the first in a long line of future scams 95 00:06:24,862 --> 00:06:29,068 he would become involved with where he faked his credentials, 96 00:06:29,103 --> 00:06:31,586 got jobs he wasn't qualified for, 97 00:06:31,620 --> 00:06:35,655 and milked the companies for various amounts of money. 98 00:06:35,689 --> 00:06:37,517 And more often than not, got away with it. 99 00:06:39,206 --> 00:06:43,344 In the '60s, one of Robinson's job was with Dr. Wallace Graham. 100 00:06:43,379 --> 00:06:47,896 Who was the personal physician to President Harry Truman. 101 00:06:47,931 --> 00:06:51,000 Dr. Graham hired him as an office manager 102 00:06:51,034 --> 00:06:54,758 and very quickly money started disappearing. 103 00:06:54,793 --> 00:06:58,275 And it turned out that Robinson had embezzled 104 00:06:58,310 --> 00:07:01,551 a great deal of money from him, almost putting him out of business. 105 00:07:02,758 --> 00:07:07,034 He embezzled at least $30,000 from him. 106 00:07:07,068 --> 00:07:11,241 He ended up being convicted for that embezzlement, 107 00:07:11,275 --> 00:07:14,344 and he was put on a probation. 108 00:07:14,379 --> 00:07:17,896 So, while he was already building this pattern of criminal behavior, 109 00:07:17,931 --> 00:07:19,206 he hadn't served any time. 110 00:07:20,448 --> 00:07:21,827 The more he got away with it, 111 00:07:21,862 --> 00:07:24,137 the more he learnt he could get away with crimes. 112 00:07:24,793 --> 00:07:26,586 And he wouldn't stop. 113 00:07:26,620 --> 00:07:32,206 And he sort of now evolved into creating these businesses of his own. 114 00:07:32,241 --> 00:07:36,517 They were all sort of fronts for his criminal activities. 115 00:07:36,551 --> 00:07:41,275 In the late '70s, Robinson started a company called Hydro-Gro, 116 00:07:41,310 --> 00:07:44,103 which was a hydroponics company. 117 00:07:44,137 --> 00:07:47,275 Growing plants indoors under artificial lights. 118 00:07:47,310 --> 00:07:52,724 He included a pamphlet stating that he had a far-reaching imagination. 119 00:07:52,758 --> 00:07:59,310 In 1977, there was a, uh, banquet to honor the "Man of the Year" 120 00:07:59,965 --> 00:08:01,517 in Kansas City. 121 00:08:01,551 --> 00:08:04,655 And it was covered by the local media including 122 00:08:04,689 --> 00:08:07,137 our newspaper The Kansas City Star. 123 00:08:07,172 --> 00:08:13,517 And the mayor proclaimed Robinson as "Man of the Year." 124 00:08:13,551 --> 00:08:17,862 For his... philanthropic efforts, I guess. 125 00:08:19,551 --> 00:08:21,448 As it turns out, it was a fake. 126 00:08:21,482 --> 00:08:24,379 It was just some phony thing that he concocted 127 00:08:24,413 --> 00:08:27,379 and bamboozled everybody, including the media. 128 00:08:28,827 --> 00:08:30,827 He had created a plaque for himself. 129 00:08:30,862 --> 00:08:32,965 He had created an event for himself. 130 00:08:33,896 --> 00:08:35,206 And when they found out about it, 131 00:08:35,241 --> 00:08:37,310 everybody was pretty mortified. 132 00:08:39,827 --> 00:08:45,793 He was kind of the archetypal small-time chiseler. 133 00:08:45,827 --> 00:08:50,344 Most white-collar criminals do not evolve into violent criminals. 134 00:08:50,379 --> 00:08:52,379 But his case is very different from that. 135 00:08:53,551 --> 00:08:57,827 By the '80s, he was evolving into something else. 136 00:08:58,965 --> 00:09:01,413 Up through 1984, 137 00:09:01,448 --> 00:09:05,551 Robinson was really viewed as a con man. 138 00:09:05,586 --> 00:09:10,310 And con men don't usually hurt anyone 139 00:09:10,344 --> 00:09:14,241 because they're smart enough to know that if you actually hurt someone, 140 00:09:14,275 --> 00:09:16,034 the penalty is gonna be enhanced. 141 00:09:16,068 --> 00:09:18,517 Which made it more surprising when we found out 142 00:09:18,551 --> 00:09:20,206 that he was also a serial killer. 143 00:09:34,379 --> 00:09:37,724 In the early '80s, Robinson started yet another company 144 00:09:37,758 --> 00:09:39,241 called Equi-II 145 00:09:39,275 --> 00:09:41,448 which was a consulting company. 146 00:09:42,862 --> 00:09:45,172 What he was actually consulting, we don't really know. 147 00:09:46,448 --> 00:09:48,896 Equi-II was what we would consider 148 00:09:48,931 --> 00:09:51,517 a-- just a sham job. 149 00:09:51,551 --> 00:09:56,275 He just used it as a front to meet women. 150 00:09:56,310 --> 00:10:00,758 It was at this time that he hired a young woman by the name of Paula Godfrey 151 00:10:00,793 --> 00:10:03,172 to work as a secretary for him. 152 00:10:03,206 --> 00:10:07,068 Paula had just graduated high school, honors student, 153 00:10:07,103 --> 00:10:09,344 she enjoyed figure skating. 154 00:10:09,379 --> 00:10:10,827 By all accounts a good kid. 155 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:19,310 Whether he hired her to help in his business is really debatable. 156 00:10:21,068 --> 00:10:27,137 It never appears that she ever really did any work for him. 157 00:10:27,172 --> 00:10:31,137 They had a fabulous package of benefits, 158 00:10:31,172 --> 00:10:34,137 financial and you were gonna travel the world. 159 00:10:34,172 --> 00:10:38,034 And this looked like the golden opportunity. 160 00:10:38,068 --> 00:10:42,448 The last we heard about Paula, she called her grandmother 161 00:10:42,482 --> 00:10:45,931 and informed her that she was going to San Antonio 162 00:10:45,965 --> 00:10:49,310 for business and she was going to train down there. 163 00:10:52,482 --> 00:10:57,413 And late in the summer of '84, Paula Godfrey went missing. 164 00:10:57,448 --> 00:11:00,103 Her parents were obviously concerned. 165 00:11:00,137 --> 00:11:02,896 They made a missing persons report 166 00:11:02,931 --> 00:11:05,344 to the Overland Park Police Department. 167 00:11:07,413 --> 00:11:11,034 But soon after, the family receives a letter 168 00:11:11,068 --> 00:11:14,000 that is allegedly from Paula. 169 00:11:15,758 --> 00:11:20,068 And in the letter she says, "Hey, I'm travelling, life is good. 170 00:11:20,103 --> 00:11:23,206 John Robinson's a wonderful person. 171 00:11:23,241 --> 00:11:25,827 He's helped me start a new life. 172 00:11:25,862 --> 00:11:28,827 And I'm fine. I'm just happy as can be." 173 00:11:30,896 --> 00:11:35,206 This is to become a theme that's repeated over and over. 174 00:11:35,241 --> 00:11:37,310 Based on the fact that letters showed up 175 00:11:37,344 --> 00:11:39,931 indicating that she was somewhere else, 176 00:11:39,965 --> 00:11:43,137 it became more of a person who may have just left, 177 00:11:43,172 --> 00:11:45,344 which is not all that uncommon. 178 00:11:45,379 --> 00:11:48,000 The investigation never really developed. 179 00:11:48,034 --> 00:11:50,379 She's one of several women that 180 00:11:50,413 --> 00:11:52,965 nobody really knows what happened to 'em. 181 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:53,965 And we'll probably never really know 182 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,000 what happened to 'em. 183 00:11:57,448 --> 00:12:02,379 Robinson was very adept at manipulating people. 184 00:12:02,413 --> 00:12:04,068 He looked like a family man. 185 00:12:04,103 --> 00:12:09,655 He dressed like the guy next door that you see pushing the lawn mower. 186 00:12:09,689 --> 00:12:13,275 He didn't dress like a guy that was out looking for girls. 187 00:12:13,310 --> 00:12:15,965 He didn't look scary, like someone you had to be careful of. 188 00:12:16,689 --> 00:12:19,413 He did all these monstrous things 189 00:12:19,448 --> 00:12:23,896 but he looks like, you know, Joe Schmoe next door. 190 00:12:26,068 --> 00:12:29,275 In 1964, Robinson met his wife Nancy. 191 00:12:30,517 --> 00:12:33,275 And she became pregnant. 192 00:12:33,310 --> 00:12:35,241 They ended up getting married. 193 00:12:35,275 --> 00:12:36,586 They had four kids. 194 00:12:38,413 --> 00:12:41,206 In the late '70s, they moved to Olathe, 195 00:12:41,241 --> 00:12:44,551 which is, uh, a suburb of Kansas City, 196 00:12:44,586 --> 00:12:50,206 probably, I don't know, 20-mile drive or so from downtown Kansas City. 197 00:12:50,241 --> 00:12:53,827 It was a upper scale suburban neighborhood. 198 00:12:53,862 --> 00:12:56,758 Ironically, he had a reputation in the community 199 00:12:56,793 --> 00:12:58,586 of being somewhat of a family man. 200 00:13:00,275 --> 00:13:03,724 He appeared to be a caring, loving father, 201 00:13:03,758 --> 00:13:06,275 he was involved in his kids' activities, 202 00:13:06,310 --> 00:13:09,344 he was involved in his church. 203 00:13:09,379 --> 00:13:14,172 He took great pride at Christmas as being the neighborhood Santa Claus. 204 00:13:14,206 --> 00:13:18,034 There are even pictures of him online in the Santa Claus costume. 205 00:13:19,586 --> 00:13:21,896 And everybody thought he was such a nice guy. 206 00:13:24,103 --> 00:13:28,103 He did a lot of things to make himself look respectable. 207 00:13:28,137 --> 00:13:32,068 But he didn't call that much attention to himself. 208 00:13:32,103 --> 00:13:35,620 I think part of the reason why he got away with what he did for so long 209 00:13:35,655 --> 00:13:41,448 because he was able to create this veneer of a normal person. 210 00:13:41,482 --> 00:13:44,827 And unfortunately nothing could be further from the truth. 211 00:13:44,862 --> 00:13:46,517 He was able to compartmentalize 212 00:13:46,551 --> 00:13:48,000 that kind of criminal activity, 213 00:13:48,034 --> 00:13:51,068 that kind of horror that he's inflicting on so many people, 214 00:13:51,103 --> 00:13:53,896 at the end of the day, go home and bounce a baby on his knee. 215 00:13:58,103 --> 00:14:03,275 One thing that came up over and over again was John Robinson's contact 216 00:14:03,310 --> 00:14:07,275 with women other than his wife. 217 00:14:07,310 --> 00:14:12,241 He gave the outward appearance of being a devoted family man, a father, 218 00:14:12,275 --> 00:14:15,931 but he would have many affairs with different women. 219 00:14:15,965 --> 00:14:20,448 There was always a string of girlfriends on the side. 220 00:14:20,482 --> 00:14:25,931 Sexual activity was a major part of Robinson's lifestyle. 221 00:14:29,310 --> 00:14:31,862 A area of interest 222 00:14:31,896 --> 00:14:38,103 that he took on was the BDSM lifestyle. 223 00:14:38,137 --> 00:14:44,965 BDSM is bondage, discipline and sadomasochism in consensual relations. 224 00:14:46,482 --> 00:14:51,000 Robinson referred to himself as a Master. 225 00:14:51,034 --> 00:14:56,655 That's a person who has dominance over women. 226 00:14:56,689 --> 00:15:02,275 The Master is somebody who is the domineering figure in the relationship that 227 00:15:02,310 --> 00:15:03,827 tells you what to do, when to do it, 228 00:15:03,862 --> 00:15:07,103 what sexually to do, all that kind of stuff. 229 00:15:07,137 --> 00:15:12,827 And he was able to find women that were into that lifestyle. 230 00:15:12,862 --> 00:15:16,000 There were clubs in Kansas City where you could engage in 231 00:15:16,034 --> 00:15:18,310 those kinds of activities if you wanted to. 232 00:15:20,206 --> 00:15:22,620 He was a man who was 5'9". 233 00:15:23,344 --> 00:15:25,000 He was pudgy. 234 00:15:25,034 --> 00:15:28,931 He was not a great physical presence. 235 00:15:28,965 --> 00:15:35,172 But this notion of being this ultramasculine, dominant male, 236 00:15:35,206 --> 00:15:38,517 you know, clearly appealed to his psyche. 237 00:15:38,551 --> 00:15:41,896 He was drifting further and further into not only 238 00:15:41,931 --> 00:15:45,862 small financial scams and murder, 239 00:15:45,896 --> 00:15:51,758 but these adventures into these darker realms of the sexual underground. 240 00:15:53,206 --> 00:15:58,965 During the day, he would be out doing his thing, scam type things, 241 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,000 BDSM activities, hooking up with all these women. 242 00:16:03,034 --> 00:16:07,068 At night, he would go home, usually about five o'clock, 243 00:16:07,103 --> 00:16:08,344 and be home the rest of the evening. 244 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,931 We referred to him as John Walton 245 00:16:12,965 --> 00:16:16,827 when he wasn't involved with his other activities. 246 00:16:16,862 --> 00:16:19,482 He was always there with Nancy at supper. 247 00:16:20,862 --> 00:16:24,413 One of the unusual aspects of it 248 00:16:24,448 --> 00:16:29,310 is that neither he nor his wife, who knew about some of these affairs, 249 00:16:29,344 --> 00:16:32,551 seemed to have any interest in getting divorced. 250 00:16:32,586 --> 00:16:38,758 Robinson sort of needed that-- that stability in this part of his life 251 00:16:38,793 --> 00:16:42,000 to be really aberrant in another part of his life. 252 00:16:55,103 --> 00:17:00,379 Sheila and Debbie Faith were a mother and daughter that lived in Colorado. 253 00:17:01,206 --> 00:17:03,379 Sheila Faith was a middle-aged woman. 254 00:17:03,413 --> 00:17:04,655 Her daughter, Debbie, 255 00:17:04,689 --> 00:17:07,103 was disabled and wheelchair-bound. 256 00:17:08,689 --> 00:17:11,379 In 1994, 257 00:17:11,413 --> 00:17:14,793 Robinson meets Sheila. 258 00:17:14,827 --> 00:17:18,620 He tells her, you know, great things about himself, 259 00:17:18,655 --> 00:17:20,275 and what a businessman he is. 260 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,000 He portrayed himself pretty much always the same way. 261 00:17:25,034 --> 00:17:29,034 The gentleman farmer, he's wealthy, he owns a lot of businesses. 262 00:17:30,965 --> 00:17:33,000 He would often times use the picture of him 263 00:17:33,034 --> 00:17:36,137 standing in that field with his foot up on a stump, 264 00:17:36,172 --> 00:17:39,517 talking about all this property he owned and how wealthy he was and... 265 00:17:40,206 --> 00:17:43,068 Just a super nice guy. 266 00:17:43,103 --> 00:17:46,551 And Robinson offered Sheila the chance to come 267 00:17:47,517 --> 00:17:49,344 to the Kansas City area and 268 00:17:49,379 --> 00:17:52,620 that he would take care of her and her daughter. 269 00:17:56,103 --> 00:17:58,655 What he was extremely good at, of course, 270 00:17:58,689 --> 00:18:02,172 was finding the vulnerabilities in people, zeroing in on them, 271 00:18:03,448 --> 00:18:04,413 exploiting them and getting them 272 00:18:04,448 --> 00:18:06,758 to do what he wanted to do. 273 00:18:06,793 --> 00:18:09,931 He would promise everything and anything 274 00:18:09,965 --> 00:18:13,620 depending on what the needs were of his victims. 275 00:18:13,655 --> 00:18:17,689 Sheila had told her friends that she had met her dream man, 276 00:18:17,724 --> 00:18:20,931 that he was gonna take them on an extended cruise. 277 00:18:20,965 --> 00:18:23,517 She was very excited about going to Kansas City. 278 00:18:27,620 --> 00:18:34,000 He actually drove all night to Pueblo, Colorado and picked them up 279 00:18:34,034 --> 00:18:35,586 and brought them back with him. 280 00:18:39,310 --> 00:18:42,689 The only thing we know about Sheila and Debbie Faith 281 00:18:42,724 --> 00:18:46,068 is they arrived in Kansas City area 282 00:18:47,137 --> 00:18:48,586 and were never seen again. 283 00:18:50,310 --> 00:18:53,896 John Robinson dodged some suspicion because 284 00:18:53,931 --> 00:18:56,689 Sheila and Debbie Faith were never reported missing. 285 00:18:59,310 --> 00:19:04,172 We always suspected that was more than anything else a money scam for him. 286 00:19:04,206 --> 00:19:08,827 They received Social Security disability benefits from the federal government. 287 00:19:10,862 --> 00:19:17,103 He continues to collect their benefits for many years after that. 288 00:19:17,137 --> 00:19:19,793 He would collect on their Social Security checks 289 00:19:19,827 --> 00:19:23,034 in the amount of $80,000. 290 00:19:23,068 --> 00:19:29,655 He almost had a constant stream of incomes from people he'd scammed or killed. 291 00:19:30,689 --> 00:19:34,000 This guy would do anything for a buck. 292 00:19:34,034 --> 00:19:40,758 And he doesn't care who he hurts or what kind of position they are in in life. 293 00:19:40,793 --> 00:19:43,241 If it benefits him, it's a good deal. 294 00:19:45,379 --> 00:19:49,827 I think Robinson was able to get away with his crimes 295 00:19:49,862 --> 00:19:55,586 because he picked victims that didn't have a lot going for them 296 00:19:55,620 --> 00:19:58,689 and would have less people looking for them. 297 00:19:58,724 --> 00:20:02,862 He had a tendency to find women at their lowest point. 298 00:20:02,896 --> 00:20:06,965 Every single one of them had a marked vulnerability. 299 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,275 And he knew it, and he found it, and he seized upon it. 300 00:20:11,206 --> 00:20:12,827 They didn't all look the same, 301 00:20:12,862 --> 00:20:15,137 they weren't all the same scam, 302 00:20:15,172 --> 00:20:18,793 but that was the one thing he knew how to do. 303 00:20:18,827 --> 00:20:22,034 To find vulnerability and exploit it. 304 00:20:22,068 --> 00:20:25,241 Here comes their knight in shining armor or so they think, 305 00:20:25,275 --> 00:20:27,275 he'll use them for a while and then... 306 00:20:28,275 --> 00:20:29,068 kill 'em. 307 00:20:44,137 --> 00:20:47,275 Welcome back to Very Scary People. 308 00:20:47,310 --> 00:20:51,103 John Robinson found some victims by posting fake jobs. 309 00:20:51,137 --> 00:20:55,551 Others by luring them with promises of love and financial support. 310 00:20:55,586 --> 00:20:57,896 In 1984, he set his sights 311 00:20:57,931 --> 00:21:01,620 on a new and especially vulnerable group of potential victims. 312 00:21:01,655 --> 00:21:03,482 Young, unwed mothers. 313 00:21:07,310 --> 00:21:12,000 In December of 1984, I was District Supervisor 314 00:21:12,034 --> 00:21:14,448 for the Missouri Board of Probation and Parole... 315 00:21:16,965 --> 00:21:19,172 ...and I got a call 316 00:21:19,206 --> 00:21:22,793 from an organization known as Birthright. 317 00:21:22,827 --> 00:21:25,448 And, uh, Birthright was a program 318 00:21:25,482 --> 00:21:28,310 that tried to help young girls who were pregnant 319 00:21:28,344 --> 00:21:30,413 find a way to keep the baby. 320 00:21:31,620 --> 00:21:35,310 They told me that they had been contacted by Robinson 321 00:21:35,344 --> 00:21:39,482 who wanted to know if they had any young girls that needed help. 322 00:21:40,517 --> 00:21:42,137 He started an organization 323 00:21:42,172 --> 00:21:43,758 called Kansas City Outreach 324 00:21:43,793 --> 00:21:50,344 that supposedly was charity to help young women, single mothers 325 00:21:50,379 --> 00:21:53,482 who needed a leg up in the world. 326 00:21:53,517 --> 00:21:56,620 John Robinson and his scams would gravitate 327 00:21:56,655 --> 00:22:00,034 toward fields that looked very benevolent. 328 00:22:00,068 --> 00:22:04,379 Other serial killers have done these same kinds of things. 329 00:22:04,413 --> 00:22:07,896 Ted Bundy, for example, worked in a suicide hotline. 330 00:22:07,931 --> 00:22:11,068 Dennis Rader, the BTK serial killer, 331 00:22:11,103 --> 00:22:13,137 was a president of his church. 332 00:22:14,551 --> 00:22:18,344 Robinson was going to different hospitals 333 00:22:18,379 --> 00:22:21,724 and trying to get them to sign on 334 00:22:21,758 --> 00:22:23,827 to this outreach program 335 00:22:23,862 --> 00:22:25,758 for unwed mothers 336 00:22:25,793 --> 00:22:29,551 that he would put up in apartments and take care of. 337 00:22:31,724 --> 00:22:34,034 After receiving the call, I began 338 00:22:34,068 --> 00:22:35,482 looking into his background. 339 00:22:37,896 --> 00:22:42,000 I was immediately convinced that he was up to no good. 340 00:22:43,206 --> 00:22:45,034 One of my early thoughts 341 00:22:45,068 --> 00:22:49,551 when I learned that he was seeking out young women with babies 342 00:22:49,586 --> 00:22:52,758 was that he potentially was 343 00:22:53,344 --> 00:22:57,827 going to sell the baby. 344 00:22:57,862 --> 00:23:03,931 And possibly use the mother to sell into white slavery. 345 00:23:03,965 --> 00:23:07,931 I had contacted the FBI to see if they were aware 346 00:23:07,965 --> 00:23:12,310 of any baby selling operations in the Kansas City area, 347 00:23:12,344 --> 00:23:14,068 and they were not. 348 00:23:14,103 --> 00:23:17,551 Stephen Haymes is a very interesting 349 00:23:17,586 --> 00:23:20,965 and important part of the story in many ways 350 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,310 because he was the first person in law enforcement 351 00:23:24,344 --> 00:23:27,137 that the red flags sort of went out. 352 00:23:27,172 --> 00:23:29,965 Stephen Haymes knew instinctively 353 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,413 that something about Robinson was wrong, 354 00:23:32,448 --> 00:23:33,758 something was dangerous. 355 00:23:34,965 --> 00:23:37,068 I'm still not 356 00:23:37,103 --> 00:23:40,241 thinking that-- that he's a murderer at that point, 357 00:23:40,275 --> 00:23:42,137 at least with his own hand. 358 00:23:49,793 --> 00:23:52,275 Lisa Stasi was the next individual 359 00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:54,551 encountered by John Robinson. 360 00:23:55,344 --> 00:23:56,793 Lisa married a man 361 00:23:56,827 --> 00:24:00,793 and together, they had a baby, Tiffany. 362 00:24:00,827 --> 00:24:04,275 The marriage was rocky, did not work out. 363 00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:07,517 They separated and, uh, her husband 364 00:24:07,551 --> 00:24:10,931 re-enlisted in the military and-- and left. 365 00:24:10,965 --> 00:24:14,482 She, uh, made contact with a hospital, 366 00:24:14,517 --> 00:24:18,689 and when they learned about the Kansas City Outreach Program, 367 00:24:18,724 --> 00:24:22,310 thought it was a perfect program for Lisa. 368 00:24:22,965 --> 00:24:24,482 It seemed like a legitimate 369 00:24:24,517 --> 00:24:26,172 outreach organization. 370 00:24:26,206 --> 00:24:30,103 Lisa was promised a job, education, 371 00:24:30,137 --> 00:24:31,862 and she thought she would be providing 372 00:24:31,896 --> 00:24:34,827 a better life for her and her young daughter. 373 00:24:34,862 --> 00:24:37,137 He put her up in a hotel in Overland Park, 374 00:24:37,172 --> 00:24:40,827 told her that he was gonna help her start a new life. 375 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,344 On January 9, 1985, Lisa went to visit 376 00:24:51,379 --> 00:24:53,724 her sister-in-law, Kathy Klinginsmith. 377 00:24:55,034 --> 00:24:58,862 And it was a very, very vicious snowstorm going on. 378 00:25:01,310 --> 00:25:04,379 While she was there, Robinson went back 379 00:25:04,413 --> 00:25:07,103 to the hotel, found out that she was not there. 380 00:25:09,586 --> 00:25:12,896 And in the middle of a horrible snowstorm, 381 00:25:12,931 --> 00:25:16,586 Robinson shows up at the sister-in-law's home 382 00:25:16,620 --> 00:25:22,000 and is upset that Lisa had left the motel. 383 00:25:22,034 --> 00:25:26,724 He demanded that she and the baby, Tiffany, 384 00:25:26,758 --> 00:25:29,689 leave with him immediately. 385 00:25:29,724 --> 00:25:32,103 Kathy Klinginsmith would later say in court 386 00:25:32,137 --> 00:25:36,413 that she saw pure evil in his eyes that day. 387 00:25:36,448 --> 00:25:40,034 So he collects Lisa and Tiffany 388 00:25:40,068 --> 00:25:42,068 leaving behind her car, 389 00:25:42,103 --> 00:25:44,172 baby food, diapers, 390 00:25:44,206 --> 00:25:46,172 and whisked them away. 391 00:25:49,241 --> 00:25:50,931 A short time later, 392 00:25:50,965 --> 00:25:53,448 Lisa makes that call to her mother-in-law 393 00:25:53,482 --> 00:25:55,344 about people wanting to take her baby. 394 00:25:56,793 --> 00:25:58,931 That last conversation, you know, 395 00:25:58,965 --> 00:26:01,965 "They've made me sign four blank sheets of paper." 396 00:26:03,965 --> 00:26:05,827 Lisa Stasi was never seen again. 397 00:26:12,275 --> 00:26:15,448 After Lisa goes missing, 398 00:26:15,482 --> 00:26:17,482 the mother-in-law receives a letter. 399 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,448 It's typed. 400 00:26:19,482 --> 00:26:23,137 Lisa's brother also receives a similar letter, 401 00:26:23,862 --> 00:26:26,000 as does a shelter. 402 00:26:26,965 --> 00:26:29,965 There were three letters that were sent 403 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,000 and all three were very generic. 404 00:26:33,172 --> 00:26:36,586 One of the letters from Lisa said, 405 00:26:36,620 --> 00:26:40,620 "Thank you for all your help. I do really appreciate it. 406 00:26:40,655 --> 00:26:42,413 I've decided to leave Kansas City 407 00:26:42,448 --> 00:26:44,931 and try to make a new life for myself and Tiffany. 408 00:26:46,517 --> 00:26:48,413 She deserves a real mother 409 00:26:48,448 --> 00:26:50,068 who works and takes care of her." 410 00:26:52,620 --> 00:26:55,862 At the bottom, it was signed Lisa Elledge Stasi. 411 00:26:58,724 --> 00:27:01,172 Their family really didn't buy into it 412 00:27:01,206 --> 00:27:03,344 because the letters were so generic. 413 00:27:04,034 --> 00:27:05,862 It didn't sound like her 414 00:27:05,896 --> 00:27:09,689 and you don't sign your official name 415 00:27:09,724 --> 00:27:12,655 including your middle name to your family members. 416 00:27:14,931 --> 00:27:18,379 The Overland Park police department was contacted 417 00:27:18,413 --> 00:27:20,655 about her disappearance. 418 00:27:20,689 --> 00:27:25,931 But again, there wasn't enough to really launch an investigation. 419 00:27:25,965 --> 00:27:29,517 At this point, there was no sign of foul play. 420 00:27:29,551 --> 00:27:32,206 So like many cases of a disappearing person 421 00:27:32,241 --> 00:27:35,517 with some reason to believe that they simply left on their own, 422 00:27:35,551 --> 00:27:37,724 the case went no further. 423 00:27:43,896 --> 00:27:47,482 On January 10 of 1985, 424 00:27:47,517 --> 00:27:49,724 I decided I had enough 425 00:27:49,758 --> 00:27:52,586 information looking into his background 426 00:27:52,620 --> 00:27:55,586 that I wanted to confront him directly 427 00:27:55,620 --> 00:27:58,655 about what was going on. At that point, 428 00:27:58,689 --> 00:28:02,413 I still don't know about Lisa and Tiffany. 429 00:28:02,448 --> 00:28:05,551 Ironically, the letter I sent on January 10 430 00:28:05,586 --> 00:28:09,068 is also the same day that Lisa Stasi 431 00:28:09,103 --> 00:28:12,103 and baby Tiffany were last seen. 432 00:28:13,413 --> 00:28:16,758 I've often wondered if I would have 433 00:28:16,793 --> 00:28:19,793 made my direct contact with him, 434 00:28:19,827 --> 00:28:22,275 you know, a week or two earlier, 435 00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:24,068 maybe she wouldn't have gone missing. 436 00:28:24,103 --> 00:28:28,034 I mean, those are the sort of, uh, regrets that you always have. 437 00:28:32,620 --> 00:28:34,137 There was a common thread with all these women. 438 00:28:35,827 --> 00:28:38,241 The last time anybody had seen 'em, 439 00:28:38,275 --> 00:28:41,448 they all become involved with John Robinson. 440 00:28:41,482 --> 00:28:44,482 None of 'em ever been seen again after that involvement. 441 00:28:44,517 --> 00:28:47,827 There was no activity, no credit card activity, 442 00:28:47,862 --> 00:28:50,448 no phone activity, nothing from any of these women. 443 00:28:50,482 --> 00:28:55,137 Most of the cases, as soon as John Robinson was contacted, 444 00:28:55,172 --> 00:28:58,620 by either a family member or the police, 445 00:28:58,655 --> 00:29:02,000 then what I would call a cover-up started. 446 00:29:02,034 --> 00:29:03,724 He had a very similar pattern 447 00:29:03,758 --> 00:29:08,344 for most of his victims. He would get these ladies 448 00:29:08,379 --> 00:29:11,655 convinced that he was getting ready to take 'em on a trip. 449 00:29:11,689 --> 00:29:14,310 And he would say to them, "You know, you're gonna be 450 00:29:14,344 --> 00:29:17,034 traveling all the time. You're gonna wanna contact your relatives. 451 00:29:17,068 --> 00:29:20,689 So why don't you pre-write some letters right now? 452 00:29:21,586 --> 00:29:24,103 And the ones that you don't pre-write, 453 00:29:24,137 --> 00:29:26,689 would you sign your signature to the bottom of these 454 00:29:26,724 --> 00:29:28,310 pages of stationery?" 455 00:29:30,862 --> 00:29:34,896 So he could mail 'em while they're traveling the world. 456 00:29:34,931 --> 00:29:38,517 It was a good way of keeping families 457 00:29:38,551 --> 00:29:41,000 and law enforcement at bay. 458 00:29:41,034 --> 00:29:43,034 And he used it over and over again in the future. 459 00:29:44,379 --> 00:29:47,448 He was very adapt at doing things 460 00:29:47,482 --> 00:29:48,965 to throw off an investigation. 461 00:30:02,172 --> 00:30:04,931 Steve Haymes was feeling uneasy 462 00:30:04,965 --> 00:30:08,137 about Robinson and these missing women. 463 00:30:09,413 --> 00:30:12,103 Stephen Haymes sent a letter to Robinson 464 00:30:12,137 --> 00:30:13,965 saying he wanted to come in 465 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,620 to his office to meet with him. 466 00:30:16,655 --> 00:30:20,620 Robinson shows up at my office on the 24th. 467 00:30:20,655 --> 00:30:24,482 Here's this, uh, rather ordinary looking man. 468 00:30:24,517 --> 00:30:28,068 Very business man looking. He's... 469 00:30:29,827 --> 00:30:32,034 not a dangerous looking person at all. 470 00:30:32,068 --> 00:30:34,620 Not a dangerous acting person. 471 00:30:34,655 --> 00:30:38,413 He's got a smile on his face and you can tell 472 00:30:38,448 --> 00:30:43,241 he's-- he's just trying to lure you in to his con. 473 00:30:44,827 --> 00:30:47,137 Robinson wants to know what's going on. 474 00:30:47,172 --> 00:30:51,448 I talk to him about the birthright situation. 475 00:30:51,482 --> 00:30:54,724 They had been contacted by Robinson. 476 00:30:54,758 --> 00:30:58,931 Wanted to know if they had any young girls that needed help. 477 00:31:00,034 --> 00:31:02,517 And he says, "Oh, yeah, that's-- that's true. 478 00:31:02,551 --> 00:31:05,275 You know, we are a group of businessmen. 479 00:31:05,310 --> 00:31:07,620 We just wanted to give back to the community." 480 00:31:07,655 --> 00:31:10,000 I'm telling him this doesn't make any sense. 481 00:31:10,034 --> 00:31:12,827 Are you incorporated? You know, is it not for profit? 482 00:31:12,862 --> 00:31:14,862 "Well, no, we haven't done that. 483 00:31:14,896 --> 00:31:17,344 I've got an attorney that's working on that." 484 00:31:18,413 --> 00:31:20,448 One of the interesting things about Robinson 485 00:31:20,482 --> 00:31:23,206 is, is that, you know, he never admits defeat. 486 00:31:23,241 --> 00:31:25,689 You can never back him into the corner, 487 00:31:25,724 --> 00:31:28,620 and he'll say, "Oh, okay, you got me." 488 00:31:28,655 --> 00:31:31,862 John Robinson lied as a lifestyle. 489 00:31:31,896 --> 00:31:33,379 He was one of those people who's just gonna tell you 490 00:31:33,413 --> 00:31:34,413 lies to tell you the truth. 491 00:31:34,448 --> 00:31:36,172 Even if it was easier to tell you the truth. 492 00:31:36,896 --> 00:31:38,137 It's almost a pathological 493 00:31:38,172 --> 00:31:39,034 thing with him. 494 00:31:39,068 --> 00:31:40,344 When you confront him 495 00:31:40,379 --> 00:31:44,000 with the facts that-- that show that he's lying, 496 00:31:44,034 --> 00:31:46,551 he says, "Oh, well, you know, that's just partially true." 497 00:31:46,586 --> 00:31:50,862 And then immediately spins a new yarn about 498 00:31:50,896 --> 00:31:52,620 how, you know, "This is really what happened," 499 00:31:52,655 --> 00:31:54,551 which requires that you go back 500 00:31:54,586 --> 00:31:56,206 and reinvestigate everything. 501 00:31:57,241 --> 00:31:59,931 So it was very frustrating. 502 00:31:59,965 --> 00:32:02,620 Nothing is easy with John Robinson. 503 00:32:03,758 --> 00:32:05,931 Haymes was not comfortable 504 00:32:05,965 --> 00:32:08,896 with the answers that Robinson was giving him. 505 00:32:08,931 --> 00:32:11,241 As such felt it was necessary 506 00:32:12,241 --> 00:32:14,206 I gotta do something with this guy. 507 00:32:15,758 --> 00:32:17,551 After my first contact with-- 508 00:32:17,586 --> 00:32:21,896 face-to-face with Robinson in January of '85, 509 00:32:21,931 --> 00:32:25,448 I was involved almost daily in investigating him. 510 00:32:26,551 --> 00:32:29,172 Haymes spent the next six months 511 00:32:29,206 --> 00:32:32,931 looking into Robinson's background. 512 00:32:32,965 --> 00:32:35,793 I contacted the social workers 513 00:32:35,827 --> 00:32:39,793 at the hospital about the Kansas City Outreach Program, 514 00:32:39,827 --> 00:32:43,724 and they told me that one girl that had been referred to him, 515 00:32:43,758 --> 00:32:47,172 Lisa Stasi, and her baby, Tiffany, 516 00:32:47,206 --> 00:32:49,862 had not been seen for some time. 517 00:32:51,103 --> 00:32:55,275 I learned more and more about his criminal activity 518 00:32:55,310 --> 00:32:58,206 and it's just going on everywhere. 519 00:32:58,241 --> 00:33:02,586 Was certainly convinced that he was up to no good. 520 00:33:02,620 --> 00:33:04,896 There's this obvious string of-- of young girls 521 00:33:04,931 --> 00:33:06,310 that have gone missing. 522 00:33:06,344 --> 00:33:09,275 But we still don't know at that time 523 00:33:09,310 --> 00:33:10,517 what's happening to them, 524 00:33:10,551 --> 00:33:13,275 where they are, were they killed by Robinson, 525 00:33:13,310 --> 00:33:17,103 were they sold into white slavery? 526 00:33:17,137 --> 00:33:20,827 If they were killed, were they killed by his own hand? 527 00:33:20,862 --> 00:33:25,620 There's more unanswered questions at that point than there are answers. 528 00:33:26,862 --> 00:33:29,758 The next best thing was to get him off the street. 529 00:33:29,793 --> 00:33:32,655 It's kind of the-- the Al Capone thing. 530 00:33:32,689 --> 00:33:34,793 If you can't get him for what Capone did, 531 00:33:34,827 --> 00:33:36,965 you get him for income tax evasion. 532 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,000 The goal was really to get him off the streets 533 00:33:40,034 --> 00:33:41,689 for anything that we could. 534 00:33:42,655 --> 00:33:44,586 In Johnson County, Kansas, 535 00:33:46,034 --> 00:33:48,965 the police were investigating Robinson for fraud. 536 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,413 He would be arrested for that, 537 00:33:51,448 --> 00:33:53,896 he would be sent to trial for that, 538 00:33:53,931 --> 00:33:56,103 and he would be convicted of fraud 539 00:33:56,517 --> 00:33:58,344 in 1987. 540 00:33:58,379 --> 00:34:01,241 And he would then serve the next six years 541 00:34:01,275 --> 00:34:03,482 in prison in Kansas. 542 00:34:03,517 --> 00:34:07,586 I was relieved that he couldn't victimize any other young women. 543 00:34:10,448 --> 00:34:12,724 But before he went to prison, he placed this ad 544 00:34:12,758 --> 00:34:15,206 in a newspaper asking for help. 545 00:34:15,931 --> 00:34:16,965 And a young woman by the name 546 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,551 of Catherine Clampitt showed up. 547 00:34:21,758 --> 00:34:24,862 Catherine Clampitt was a young, somewhat 548 00:34:25,517 --> 00:34:28,241 troubled young girl. 549 00:34:28,275 --> 00:34:30,586 Catherine's family described her as being 550 00:34:30,620 --> 00:34:32,000 a very intelligent young lady. 551 00:34:32,034 --> 00:34:36,172 Had a bit of a wild side, maybe adventurous side. 552 00:34:36,206 --> 00:34:39,931 Clampitt had a young child that she left with her parents 553 00:34:39,965 --> 00:34:42,344 when she came up here to the Kansas City area. 554 00:34:44,413 --> 00:34:47,344 She answered a job ad that he had put out 555 00:34:47,379 --> 00:34:49,862 saying looking for somebody that was interested 556 00:34:49,896 --> 00:34:51,896 in a great job 557 00:34:51,931 --> 00:34:54,379 with travel, new wardrobe. 558 00:34:54,413 --> 00:34:57,241 The kind of thing that, you know, any young person 559 00:34:57,275 --> 00:34:59,068 might look at and go, "Wow, this sounds great." 560 00:35:00,931 --> 00:35:03,034 Robinson convinced her that, 561 00:35:03,068 --> 00:35:06,137 you know, he really had a-- a good job for her. 562 00:35:07,586 --> 00:35:09,275 After she answered that ad, 563 00:35:10,275 --> 00:35:11,620 she was never seen again. 564 00:35:15,344 --> 00:35:18,379 Letters started showing up and they were hand-written 565 00:35:18,931 --> 00:35:20,448 by Catherine Clampitt. 566 00:35:21,931 --> 00:35:24,793 She enquired about her kid, she had a kid. 567 00:35:24,827 --> 00:35:27,896 She would ask questions in the letters, 568 00:35:27,931 --> 00:35:31,034 saying that she was traveling but it was suspicious 569 00:35:32,827 --> 00:35:35,965 because those letters all came from the Kansas City area. 570 00:35:37,137 --> 00:35:38,931 Even after the Kansas conviction, 571 00:35:38,965 --> 00:35:41,310 you would think that he would be 572 00:35:41,344 --> 00:35:43,793 at least trying to be at his best behavior. 573 00:35:44,586 --> 00:35:45,448 But he's not. 574 00:35:57,931 --> 00:36:02,275 I never met anybody that didn't hate John Robinson. 575 00:36:02,310 --> 00:36:04,517 And I also did not find anybody 576 00:36:04,551 --> 00:36:06,034 that he ever told the truth to. 577 00:36:07,137 --> 00:36:10,206 I don't think you could probably trust anything 578 00:36:10,241 --> 00:36:12,344 that came out of his mouth. 579 00:36:12,379 --> 00:36:15,448 I've heard that somebody is a silver tongued devil, 580 00:36:15,482 --> 00:36:18,275 which, in his case, is pretty apt. 581 00:36:23,965 --> 00:36:28,620 In the late 1980s, John Robinson is sentenced to prison. 582 00:36:28,655 --> 00:36:31,586 And at the prison, he meets 583 00:36:31,620 --> 00:36:34,034 a woman by the name of Beverly Bonner 584 00:36:34,068 --> 00:36:37,413 who worked in the prison library 585 00:36:37,448 --> 00:36:41,172 and was married to the prison doctor. 586 00:36:41,206 --> 00:36:45,103 Robinson became very, very friendly with her. 587 00:36:45,137 --> 00:36:48,448 In fact, he manipulated her while he was in prison, 588 00:36:48,482 --> 00:36:51,103 and they soon started an affair actually. 589 00:36:53,689 --> 00:36:56,344 In 1993, John Robinson 590 00:36:56,379 --> 00:36:58,689 was released from prison. 591 00:36:58,724 --> 00:37:02,517 And Beverly decides that she's going to leave her husband 592 00:37:02,551 --> 00:37:05,586 and run off with this guy. 593 00:37:06,034 --> 00:37:07,241 She got divorced, 594 00:37:07,275 --> 00:37:09,931 moved up here to be with him. 595 00:37:09,965 --> 00:37:13,517 He made her an officer in his business. 596 00:37:13,551 --> 00:37:16,758 He also opened a couple credit cards under her name. 597 00:37:17,724 --> 00:37:20,482 And then, she also disappeared. 598 00:37:25,206 --> 00:37:27,965 Her family started receiving letters 599 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,620 saying, "Having a great time in Europe." 600 00:37:30,655 --> 00:37:33,310 And they were postmarked from France and Switzerland. 601 00:37:34,827 --> 00:37:39,275 No one ever questioned that she wasn't in the Kansas City area. 602 00:37:39,310 --> 00:37:41,344 They just assumed she was off traveling 603 00:37:41,379 --> 00:37:43,448 because of these postmarked envelopes. 604 00:37:44,862 --> 00:37:46,827 In Beverly Bonner's case, 605 00:37:47,793 --> 00:37:49,000 her son died. 606 00:37:49,965 --> 00:37:54,275 And yet, she never wrote a word about it. 607 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,448 Bonner had maintenance payments 608 00:37:59,482 --> 00:38:02,517 routinely coming to her from her ex-husband, the doctor, 609 00:38:02,551 --> 00:38:04,689 as part of the divorce package. 610 00:38:04,724 --> 00:38:07,620 Robinson has those sent to a post office box 611 00:38:07,655 --> 00:38:09,000 in Olathe, Kansas, 612 00:38:09,034 --> 00:38:12,000 where he then collects them and cashes them. 613 00:38:13,344 --> 00:38:15,896 Robinson continued to cash those checks 614 00:38:15,931 --> 00:38:17,896 for the next 18 months, 615 00:38:17,931 --> 00:38:21,655 which would have been at least $18,000. 616 00:38:21,689 --> 00:38:24,689 He's always looking for a buck no matter how he can get it. 617 00:38:26,586 --> 00:38:29,724 It's interesting that through his criminal career, 618 00:38:30,413 --> 00:38:32,379 money was a factor. 619 00:38:32,413 --> 00:38:34,344 If you think about a lot of serial killers, 620 00:38:34,379 --> 00:38:38,931 you don't often have money as a component of that. 621 00:38:38,965 --> 00:38:41,689 From the very beginning, he was determined 622 00:38:41,724 --> 00:38:45,379 to take money from people by illegal and illicit means. 623 00:38:49,172 --> 00:38:52,482 When Robinson was released from prison, 624 00:38:52,517 --> 00:38:54,551 he lived in Missouri, 625 00:38:54,586 --> 00:38:56,517 just south of Kansas City 626 00:38:56,551 --> 00:39:00,551 in a trailer that his wife had rented there. 627 00:39:01,793 --> 00:39:04,379 That was not within the jurisdiction 628 00:39:04,413 --> 00:39:06,931 of my district office. 629 00:39:08,137 --> 00:39:12,965 But I held his file back in my desk drawer. 630 00:39:14,344 --> 00:39:16,551 I would review the file periodically. 631 00:39:16,586 --> 00:39:18,862 Was there anything I missed? You know, what-- 632 00:39:18,896 --> 00:39:20,413 What more could I do? 633 00:39:20,448 --> 00:39:22,551 What more could I investigate? 634 00:39:29,310 --> 00:39:31,620 In the '90s, the Internet became 635 00:39:31,655 --> 00:39:35,310 an incredible part of our everyday life. 636 00:39:35,344 --> 00:39:38,034 The irony was that Robinson learned 637 00:39:38,068 --> 00:39:40,137 about the Internet while he was in prison. 638 00:39:40,172 --> 00:39:41,793 He was very, very smart 639 00:39:41,827 --> 00:39:44,068 and he had a very good head for it. 640 00:39:44,103 --> 00:39:48,068 He used to see Internet to meet and attract women. 641 00:39:48,103 --> 00:39:49,620 For a long time, he'd be involved 642 00:39:49,655 --> 00:39:52,482 in BDSM and sadomasochism, 643 00:39:52,517 --> 00:39:55,137 and he gravitated towards those chat rooms. 644 00:39:56,344 --> 00:39:59,931 He actually referred to himself as Slave Master. 645 00:39:59,965 --> 00:40:02,758 He had five computers set up 646 00:40:02,793 --> 00:40:05,862 and with some or all of those computers, 647 00:40:05,896 --> 00:40:07,931 he was hunting 648 00:40:07,965 --> 00:40:11,586 for new women to victimize in some way. 649 00:40:11,620 --> 00:40:15,241 This guy would connect with women all over America. 650 00:40:15,275 --> 00:40:17,068 It is commonly understood 651 00:40:17,103 --> 00:40:18,793 that he was the first serial killer 652 00:40:18,827 --> 00:40:23,793 to use the Internet as a stalking ground for finding victims. 653 00:40:23,827 --> 00:40:26,310 Once he got his hands on computers, 654 00:40:26,344 --> 00:40:28,827 the whole game changed and expanded for Robinson. 655 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,931 And he would now use that 656 00:40:31,965 --> 00:40:34,137 in the evolution of his criminal career. 657 00:40:39,620 --> 00:40:42,310 After about a decade of instances 658 00:40:42,344 --> 00:40:46,068 where women met John Robinson and then disappeared, 659 00:40:46,103 --> 00:40:47,551 it's still happening. 660 00:40:47,586 --> 00:40:49,862 He told me that he had a job with the state department 661 00:40:49,896 --> 00:40:51,965 and that would also be the reason 662 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,448 why he was away all the time. 663 00:40:54,482 --> 00:40:59,103 Robinson met Suzette through an online chat room. 664 00:40:59,137 --> 00:41:02,310 On March 1, she totally disappeared. 665 00:41:02,344 --> 00:41:03,689 I don't know if I should 666 00:41:03,724 --> 00:41:05,655 maybe call the police to jump in. 667 00:41:05,689 --> 00:41:06,724 Why? 668 00:41:08,068 --> 00:41:10,344 They began putting the pieces together. 669 00:41:10,379 --> 00:41:12,275 This guy is a-- a serial killer. 670 00:41:13,310 --> 00:41:15,965 How much crazier can this thing be? 671 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,620 When we lifted it back up, we saw 672 00:41:17,655 --> 00:41:19,344 a little red streak 673 00:41:19,379 --> 00:41:22,344 of red liquid going down the side of the barrel. 674 00:41:23,655 --> 00:41:26,206 He is just evil itself. 675 00:41:27,172 --> 00:41:29,551 I mean, he's the definition of evil. 676 00:41:35,172 --> 00:41:38,000 John Robinson's fatherly demeanor helped shroud 677 00:41:38,034 --> 00:41:40,620 the depraved sex life he lived behind closed doors. 678 00:41:41,137 --> 00:41:42,206 He was cunning 679 00:41:42,241 --> 00:41:44,172 and managed to dodge suspicion about 680 00:41:44,206 --> 00:41:46,206 the ever-growing list of women in his life 681 00:41:46,241 --> 00:41:47,931 who were never seen again. 682 00:41:47,965 --> 00:41:50,275 That is until one victim's disappearance 683 00:41:50,310 --> 00:41:52,448 set off alarm bells with her family, 684 00:41:52,482 --> 00:41:54,862 and her mother confronts Robinson 685 00:41:54,896 --> 00:41:57,551 in part two of the Slave Master. 686 00:41:57,586 --> 00:42:00,482 I'm Donnie Wahlberg, thanks for watching. 687 00:42:00,517 --> 00:42:01,413 Good night. 56112

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