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Hello?
Who is this?
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This is John.
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Well, son,
have you heard from Susie?
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Susie?
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Uh... Golly.
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No, not for...
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Well...
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I guess since
the first of the month.
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I'm really getting
very nervous about this.
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I don't know if I should
maybe call the police
or something.
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Why?
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Hon, she's a big girl.
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Welcome to Very Scary People.
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I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
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When Paula Godfrey answered
a "Help Wanted" ad
for a personal assistant,
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it seemed like
a great opportunity.
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Her job would include benefits
plus training and travel.
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It sounded too
good to be true.
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It was.
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Almost as soon
as Paula started,
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her family stopped
hearing from her.
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Turns out her new boss was
not who she thought he was.
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In reality, John Robinson
was a con man,
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with a penchant for rough sex
that included bondage,
discipline and sadomasochism,
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or BDSM.
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This is part one
of the Slave Master.
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On January 9th, 1985,
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Lisa Stasi was staying
in a motel in Kansas City.
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Lisa was 19 at the time
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and had a daughter, Tiffany.
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Tiffany at the time was
under six months of age.
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That night, Lisa calls
her mother-in-law
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and is crying and very upset.
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And tells her mother-in-law,
"Why are you trying to take
my baby away?"
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And the mother-in-law says,
"We're not trying to take
the baby away."
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Lisa says, "They've
made me sign four
blank sheets of paper."
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Her mother-in-law said,
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"By no means,
do not sign anything.
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No one's trying to take
your baby away from you."
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And she heard extreme fear
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in her
daughter-in-law's voice.
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And then Lisa says,
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"Here they come.
I've gotta go."
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And that was the last
anyone ever heard from Lisa.
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John Robinson had a...
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I think a very unique
and interesting upbringing.
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Just seemed like
a average kid.
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Robinson
was born in late 1943
in Cicero, Illinois.
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He grew up in a neighborhood
that was sort of renowned
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for criminal behavior
because Al Capone had,
uh, an office there,
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and there was a famous
shoot-out in the neighborhood.
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It was part of the local
folklore really.
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So, Robinson would have
absorbed some of that
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and maybe he thought that
was something that might
help you get ahead in life.
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He was the middle
child of five.
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His father
worked as a machinist
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and was known as a drinker,
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sort of trudging off to work
and trudging back.
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His mother was known
as the disciplinarian
in the family.
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According to Robinson,
she was quite cold,
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uh, especially when meting
out the discipline.
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John Robinson
attended the Quigley
Preparatory school.
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He wanted to attend seminary
to become a priest early on.
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So, he was, in his youth,
quite a straight arrow.
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John Robinson
was in the Boy Scouts,
became an Eagle Scout,
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and that group travelled
to London to perform in front
of Queen Elizabeth and sing.
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And backstage,
he met Judy Garland
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who was also there
performing for the Queen.
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And he went up
to Judy Garland and said,
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"We Americans got
to stick together."
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At which point, she,
surprisingly, gave him
a kiss on the cheek
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and said, "You're right."
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This was a very bold
move for a 13-year-old.
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And later,
the encounter was
in theChicago Tribune.
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I think it just showed
that John Robinson
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was very personable
and a very likable kid.
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He really had a way
of relating to people
and getting them to trust him.
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Even in his
childhood though,
people said that he was a...
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a little bit of a con man.
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That he manipulated people,
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that he did a lot of different
things to get what he wanted.
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I doubt
whether anyone would
absolutely believe
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that, uh, another person
could turn out to be
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the kind of person that
John Robinson became.
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From the very beginning,
much of what he
did was a scam.
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And that scam was at first
theft and forgeries,
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and later on it would
take a human toll.
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In 1961, Robinson got
a job as an X-ray technician.
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He created lot of diplomas
that said he was qualified.
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But as far as I know,
they're all bogus.
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Once he began working there,
it was noticed that he really
didn't know what he was doing.
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He had
none of the training
or knowledge to do that.
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He started stealing
from his employer so
the job didn't last very long.
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This was just
the first in a long line
of future scams
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he would become
involved with where he
faked his credentials,
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got jobs he
wasn't qualified for,
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and milked the companies
for various amounts of money.
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And more often than not,
got away with it.
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In the '60s, one
of Robinson's job was
with Dr. Wallace Graham.
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Who was
the personal physician
to President Harry Truman.
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Dr. Graham hired
him as an office manager
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and very quickly money
started disappearing.
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And it turned out that
Robinson had embezzled
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a great deal of money
from him, almost putting
him out of business.
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He embezzled at least
$30,000 from him.
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He ended up being convicted
for that embezzlement,
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and he was put on a probation.
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So, while he was already
building this pattern
of criminal behavior,
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he hadn't served any time.
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The more he
got away with it,
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the more he learnt he
could get away with crimes.
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And he wouldn't stop.
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And he sort of now
evolved into creating
these businesses of his own.
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They were all sort of fronts
for his criminal activities.
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In the late '70s,
Robinson started a company
called Hydro-Gro,
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which was
a hydroponics company.
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Growing plants indoors
under artificial lights.
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He included a pamphlet
stating that he had
a far-reaching imagination.
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In 1977, there was
a, uh, banquet to honor
the "Man of the Year"
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in Kansas City.
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And it was covered
by the local media including
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our newspaper
The Kansas City Star.
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And the mayor proclaimed
Robinson as "Man of the Year."
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For his... philanthropic
efforts, I guess.
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As it turns out,
it was a fake.
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It was just some phony thing
that he concocted
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and bamboozled everybody,
including the media.
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He had created
a plaque for himself.
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He had created
an event for himself.
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And when they
found out about it,
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everybody was
pretty mortified.
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He was kind of the archetypal
small-time chiseler.
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Most white-collar
criminals do not evolve
into violent criminals.
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But his case is very
different from that.
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By the '80s, he was evolving
into something else.
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Up through 1984,
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Robinson was really
viewed as a con man.
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And con men don't
usually hurt anyone
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because they're smart
enough to know that if
you actually hurt someone,
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the penalty is gonna
be enhanced.
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Which made it more
surprising when we found out
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that he was also
a serial killer.
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In the early '80s,
Robinson started yet
another company
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called Equi-II
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which was
a consulting company.
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What he was
actually consulting,
we don't really know.
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Equi-II was what
we would consider
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a-- just a sham job.
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He just used it as
a front to meet women.
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It was at this time
that he hired a young woman
by the name of Paula Godfrey
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to work as
a secretary for him.
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Paula had just
graduated high school,
honors student,
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she enjoyed figure skating.
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By all accounts a good kid.
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Whether he hired her
to help in his business
is really debatable.
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It never appears that she ever
really did any work for him.
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They had a fabulous
package of benefits,
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financial and you were
gonna travel the world.
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And this looked like
the golden opportunity.
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The last we heard about Paula,
she called her grandmother
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and informed her that she
was going to San Antonio
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for business and she was
going to train down there.
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And late
in the summer of '84,
Paula Godfrey went missing.
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Her parents were
obviously concerned.
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They made a missing
persons report
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to the Overland Park
Police Department.
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But soon after,
the family receives a letter
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that is allegedly from Paula.
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And in the letter she says,
"Hey, I'm travelling,
life is good.
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John Robinson's
a wonderful person.
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He's helped me
start a new life.
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And I'm fine.
I'm just happy as can be."
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This is to become a theme
that's repeated over and over.
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Based on the fact
that letters showed up
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indicating that she
was somewhere else,
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it became more of a person
who may have just left,
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which is not all
that uncommon.
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The investigation
never really developed.
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She's one
of several women that
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nobody really knows
what happened to 'em.
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And we'll probably
never really know
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what happened to 'em.
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Robinson was very adept
at manipulating people.
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He looked
like a family man.
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He dressed like the guy
next door that you see
pushing the lawn mower.
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He didn't dress like
a guy that was out
looking for girls.
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He didn't look scary,
like someone you had
to be careful of.
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He did all these
monstrous things
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but he looks like, you know,
Joe Schmoe next door.
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In 1964, Robinson
met his wife Nancy.
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And she became pregnant.
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They ended up getting married.
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They had four kids.
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In the late '70s,
they moved to Olathe,
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which is, uh, a suburb
of Kansas City,
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probably, I don't know,
20-mile drive or so
from downtown Kansas City.
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It was a upper scale
suburban neighborhood.
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Ironically, he had
a reputation in the community
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of being somewhat
of a family man.
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He appeared to be
a caring, loving father,
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he was involved in his
kids' activities,
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he was involved in his church.
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He took great pride
at Christmas as being
the neighborhood Santa Claus.
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There are even pictures
of him online in the Santa
Claus costume.
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And everybody thought he
was such a nice guy.
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He did a lot
of things to make himself
look respectable.
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But he didn't call that much
attention to himself.
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I think part
of the reason why he got away
with what he did for so long
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because he was able
to create this veneer
of a normal person.
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And unfortunately
nothing could be
further from the truth.
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He was able
to compartmentalize
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that kind
of criminal activity,
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that kind of horror that he's
inflicting on so many people,
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at the end of the day, go home
and bounce a baby on his knee.
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One thing that came
up over and over again
was John Robinson's contact
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with women other
than his wife.
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He gave the outward
appearance of being a devoted
family man, a father,
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but he would have many
affairs with different women.
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There was
always a string
of girlfriends on the side.
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Sexual activity was a major
part of Robinson's lifestyle.
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A area of interest
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that he took on was
the BDSM lifestyle.
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BDSM is bondage, discipline
and sadomasochism
in consensual relations.
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Robinson referred
to himself as a Master.
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That's a person who has
dominance over women.
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The Master is somebody
who is the domineering figure
in the relationship that
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tells you what to do,
when to do it,
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what sexually to do,
all that kind of stuff.
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And he was able
to find women that
were into that lifestyle.
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There were
clubs in Kansas City
where you could engage in
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those kinds of activities
if you wanted to.
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He was a man who was 5'9".
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He was pudgy.
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He was not a great
physical presence.
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But this notion of being
this ultramasculine,
dominant male,
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you know, clearly appealed
to his psyche.
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He was drifting further
and further into not only
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small financial scams
and murder,
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but these adventures
into these darker realms
of the sexual underground.
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During the day, he would
be out doing his thing,
scam type things,
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BDSM activities,
hooking up with all
these women.
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At night, he would go home,
usually about five o'clock,
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and be home the rest
of the evening.
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We referred
to him as John Walton
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when he wasn't involved
with his other activities.
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He was always there
with Nancy at supper.
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One
of the unusual
aspects of it
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is that neither he nor
his wife, who knew
about some of these affairs,
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seemed to have any
interest in getting divorced.
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Robinson sort of needed
that-- that stability
in this part of his life
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to be really aberrant
in another part of his life.
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Sheila and Debbie Faith
were a mother and daughter
that lived in Colorado.
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Sheila Faith was
a middle-aged woman.
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Her daughter, Debbie,
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was disabled
and wheelchair-bound.
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In 1994,
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Robinson meets Sheila.
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He tells her, you know,
great things about himself,
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and what a businessman he is.
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He portrayed himself pretty
much always the same way.
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The gentleman farmer,
he's wealthy, he owns
a lot of businesses.
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He would often times
use the picture of him
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standing in that field
with his foot up on a stump,
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talking about all this
property he owned and how
wealthy he was and...
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Just a super nice guy.
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And Robinson offered
Sheila the chance to come
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to the Kansas City area and
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that he would take care
of her and her daughter.
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What he was
extremely good at, of course,
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was finding
the vulnerabilities in people,
zeroing in on them,
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exploiting them
and getting them
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to do what he wanted to do.
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He would promise
everything and anything
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depending on what
the needs were of his victims.
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Sheila had told
her friends that she had
met her dream man,
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that he was gonna take
them on an extended cruise.
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She was very excited
about going to Kansas City.
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He actually drove all
night to Pueblo, Colorado
and picked them up
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and brought them
back with him.
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The only thing we know
about Sheila and Debbie Faith
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is they arrived
in Kansas City area
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and were never seen again.
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John Robinson dodged
some suspicion because
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Sheila and Debbie Faith
were never reported missing.
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We always suspected
that was more than anything
else a money scam for him.
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They received Social
Security disability benefits
from the federal government.
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He continues to collect
their benefits for many
years after that.
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He would
collect on their Social
Security checks
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in the amount of $80,000.
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He almost had a constant
stream of incomes from people
he'd scammed or killed.
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This guy would do
anything for a buck.
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And he doesn't care who
he hurts or what kind of
position they are in in life.
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If it benefits him,
it's a good deal.
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I think
Robinson was able to get
away with his crimes
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because he picked
victims that didn't have
a lot going for them
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and would have less people
looking for them.
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He had a tendency to find
women at their lowest point.
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Every single one of them
had a marked vulnerability.
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And he knew it,
and he found it,
and he seized upon it.
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They didn't all look the same,
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they weren't all
the same scam,
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but that was the one
thing he knew how to do.
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To find vulnerability
and exploit it.
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Here comes
their knight in shining
armor or so they think,
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he'll use them
for a while and then...
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kill 'em.
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Welcome back
to Very Scary People.
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John Robinson found some
victims by posting fake jobs.
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Others by luring them
with promises of love
and financial support.
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In 1984, he set his sights
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on a new and especially
vulnerable group
of potential victims.
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Young, unwed mothers.
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In December of 1984,
I was District Supervisor
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for the Missouri Board
of Probation and Parole...
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...and I got a call
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from an organization
known as Birthright.
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And, uh, Birthright
was a program
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that tried to help young girls
who were pregnant
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find a way to keep the baby.
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They told me that they had
been contacted by Robinson
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who wanted to know
if they had any young
girls that needed help.
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He started an organization
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called Kansas City Outreach
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that supposedly was charity
to help young women,
single mothers
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who needed a leg up
in the world.
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John Robinson
and his scams would gravitate
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toward fields that
looked very benevolent.
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Other serial killers have done
these same kinds of things.
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Ted Bundy, for example, worked
in a suicide hotline.
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Dennis Rader,
the BTK serial killer,
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was a president of his church.
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Robinson was going
to different hospitals
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and trying to get
them to sign on
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to this outreach program
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for unwed mothers
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that he would put
up in apartments
and take care of.
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After receiving
the call, I began
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looking into his background.
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I was immediately convinced
that he was up to no good.
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One of my early thoughts
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when I learned that
he was seeking out
young women with babies
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was that he potentially was
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going to sell the baby.
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And possibly use the mother
to sell into white slavery.
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I had contacted the FBI
to see if they were aware
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of any baby selling operations
in the Kansas City area,
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and they were not.
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Stephen Haymes
is a very interesting
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and important part
of the story in many ways
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because he was the first
person in law enforcement
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that the red flags
sort of went out.
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Stephen Haymes
knew instinctively
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that something about
Robinson was wrong,
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something was dangerous.
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I'm still not
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thinking that-- that
he's a murderer at that point,
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at least with his own hand.
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Lisa Stasi
was the next individual
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encountered by John Robinson.
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Lisa married a man
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and together, they had
a baby, Tiffany.
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The marriage was rocky,
did not work out.
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They separated
and, uh, her husband
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re-enlisted in the military
and-- and left.
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She, uh, made contact
with a hospital,
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and when they learned
about the Kansas City
Outreach Program,
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thought it was a perfect
program for Lisa.
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It seemed like a legitimate
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outreach organization.
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Lisa was promised
a job, education,
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and she thought
she would be providing
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a better life for her
and her young daughter.
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He put her up in a hotel
in Overland Park,
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told her that he was gonna
help her start a new life.
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On January 9, 1985,
Lisa went to visit
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her sister-in-law,
Kathy Klinginsmith.
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And it was a very, very
vicious snowstorm going on.
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While she was there,
Robinson went back
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to the hotel, found out
that she was not there.
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And in the middle
of a horrible snowstorm,
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Robinson shows up
at the sister-in-law's home
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and is upset that Lisa
had left the motel.
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He demanded that
she and the baby, Tiffany,
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leave with him immediately.
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Kathy Klinginsmith would
later say in court
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that she saw pure evil
in his eyes that day.
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So he collects
Lisa and Tiffany
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leaving behind her car,
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baby food, diapers,
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and whisked them away.
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A short time later,
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Lisa makes that call
to her mother-in-law
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about people wanting
to take her baby.
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That last
conversation, you know,
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"They've made me sign
four blank sheets of paper."
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Lisa Stasi
was never seen again.
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00:26:12,275 --> 00:26:15,448
After Lisa
goes missing,
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the mother-in-law
receives a letter.
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It's typed.
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Lisa's brother also
receives a similar letter,
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00:26:23,862 --> 00:26:26,000
as does a shelter.
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00:26:26,965 --> 00:26:29,965
There were three letters
that were sent
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and all three
were very generic.
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One of the letters
from Lisa said,
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00:26:36,620 --> 00:26:40,620
"Thank you for all your help.
I do really appreciate it.
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I've decided
to leave Kansas City
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and try to make a new life
for myself and Tiffany.
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00:26:46,517 --> 00:26:48,413
She deserves a real mother
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who works
and takes care of her."
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00:26:52,620 --> 00:26:55,862
At the bottom, it was signed
Lisa Elledge Stasi.
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Their family
really didn't buy into it
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because the letters
were so generic.
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It didn't sound like her
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and you don't sign
your official name
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including your middle name
to your family members.
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00:27:14,931 --> 00:27:18,379
The Overland Park
police department
was contacted
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about her disappearance.
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But again, there wasn't
enough to really launch
an investigation.
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At this point,
there was no sign
of foul play.
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So like many cases
of a disappearing person
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with some reason
to believe that they
simply left on their own,
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the case went no further.
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On January 10
of 1985,
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I decided I had enough
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information looking
into his background
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that I wanted
to confront him directly
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00:27:55,620 --> 00:27:58,655
about what was going on.
At that point,
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I still don't know
about Lisa and Tiffany.
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00:28:02,448 --> 00:28:05,551
Ironically, the letter
I sent on January 10
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is also the same day
that Lisa Stasi
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and baby Tiffany
were last seen.
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I've often wondered
if I would have
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made my direct contact
with him,
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00:28:19,827 --> 00:28:22,275
you know,
a week or two earlier,
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00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:24,068
maybe she wouldn't
have gone missing.
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I mean, those are
the sort of, uh, regrets
that you always have.
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00:28:32,620 --> 00:28:34,137
There was a common
thread with all these women.
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The last time anybody
had seen 'em,
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00:28:38,275 --> 00:28:41,448
they all become involved
with John Robinson.
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None of 'em ever been seen
again after that involvement.
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00:28:44,517 --> 00:28:47,827
There was no activity,
no credit card activity,
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00:28:47,862 --> 00:28:50,448
no phone activity, nothing
from any of these women.
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Most of the cases, as soon
as John Robinson
was contacted,
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by either a family member
or the police,
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then what I would call
a cover-up started.
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He had
a very similar pattern
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00:29:03,758 --> 00:29:08,344
for most of his victims.
He would get these ladies
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00:29:08,379 --> 00:29:11,655
convinced that he was getting
ready to take 'em on a trip.
449
00:29:11,689 --> 00:29:14,310
And he would say to them,
"You know, you're gonna be
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00:29:14,344 --> 00:29:17,034
traveling all the time.
You're gonna wanna
contact your relatives.
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00:29:17,068 --> 00:29:20,689
So why don't you pre-write
some letters right now?
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And the ones that
you don't pre-write,
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would you sign your signature
to the bottom of these
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pages of stationery?"
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00:29:30,862 --> 00:29:34,896
So he could mail 'em while
they're traveling the world.
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00:29:34,931 --> 00:29:38,517
It was a good way
of keeping families
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00:29:38,551 --> 00:29:41,000
and law enforcement at bay.
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00:29:41,034 --> 00:29:43,034
And he used it over and over
again in the future.
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00:29:44,379 --> 00:29:47,448
He was very adapt
at doing things
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to throw off an investigation.
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00:30:02,172 --> 00:30:04,931
Steve Haymes
was feeling uneasy
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00:30:04,965 --> 00:30:08,137
about Robinson
and these missing women.
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00:30:09,413 --> 00:30:12,103
Stephen Haymes
sent a letter to Robinson
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00:30:12,137 --> 00:30:13,965
saying he wanted to come in
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to his office
to meet with him.
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00:30:16,655 --> 00:30:20,620
Robinson shows up
at my office on the 24th.
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00:30:20,655 --> 00:30:24,482
Here's this, uh, rather
ordinary looking man.
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00:30:24,517 --> 00:30:28,068
Very business man looking.
He's...
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not a dangerous looking
person at all.
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00:30:32,068 --> 00:30:34,620
Not a dangerous acting person.
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00:30:34,655 --> 00:30:38,413
He's got a smile on his face
and you can tell
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00:30:38,448 --> 00:30:43,241
he's-- he's just trying
to lure you in to his con.
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00:30:44,827 --> 00:30:47,137
Robinson wants to know
what's going on.
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00:30:47,172 --> 00:30:51,448
I talk to him about
the birthright situation.
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00:30:51,482 --> 00:30:54,724
They had been contacted
by Robinson.
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00:30:54,758 --> 00:30:58,931
Wanted to know if they
had any young girls
that needed help.
477
00:31:00,034 --> 00:31:02,517
And he says, "Oh, yeah,
that's-- that's true.
478
00:31:02,551 --> 00:31:05,275
You know, we are
a group of businessmen.
479
00:31:05,310 --> 00:31:07,620
We just wanted to give
back to the community."
480
00:31:07,655 --> 00:31:10,000
I'm telling him
this doesn't make any sense.
481
00:31:10,034 --> 00:31:12,827
Are you incorporated?
You know,
is it not for profit?
482
00:31:12,862 --> 00:31:14,862
"Well, no,
we haven't done that.
483
00:31:14,896 --> 00:31:17,344
I've got an attorney
that's working on that."
484
00:31:18,413 --> 00:31:20,448
One of the interesting
things about Robinson
485
00:31:20,482 --> 00:31:23,206
is, is that, you know,
he never admits defeat.
486
00:31:23,241 --> 00:31:25,689
You can never back him
into the corner,
487
00:31:25,724 --> 00:31:28,620
and he'll say, "Oh,
okay, you got me."
488
00:31:28,655 --> 00:31:31,862
John Robinson
lied as a lifestyle.
489
00:31:31,896 --> 00:31:33,379
He was one of those people
who's just gonna tell you
490
00:31:33,413 --> 00:31:34,413
lies to tell you the truth.
491
00:31:34,448 --> 00:31:36,172
Even if it was easier
to tell you the truth.
492
00:31:36,896 --> 00:31:38,137
It's almost a pathological
493
00:31:38,172 --> 00:31:39,034
thing with him.
494
00:31:39,068 --> 00:31:40,344
When you confront him
495
00:31:40,379 --> 00:31:44,000
with the facts that--
that show that he's lying,
496
00:31:44,034 --> 00:31:46,551
he says, "Oh, well, you know,
that's just partially true."
497
00:31:46,586 --> 00:31:50,862
And then immediately
spins a new yarn about
498
00:31:50,896 --> 00:31:52,620
how, you know, "This is really
what happened,"
499
00:31:52,655 --> 00:31:54,551
which requires that
you go back
500
00:31:54,586 --> 00:31:56,206
and reinvestigate everything.
501
00:31:57,241 --> 00:31:59,931
So it was very frustrating.
502
00:31:59,965 --> 00:32:02,620
Nothing is easy
with John Robinson.
503
00:32:03,758 --> 00:32:05,931
Haymes
was not comfortable
504
00:32:05,965 --> 00:32:08,896
with the answers that
Robinson was giving him.
505
00:32:08,931 --> 00:32:11,241
As such felt it was necessary
506
00:32:12,241 --> 00:32:14,206
I gotta do something
with this guy.
507
00:32:15,758 --> 00:32:17,551
After my first contact with--
508
00:32:17,586 --> 00:32:21,896
face-to-face with Robinson
in January of '85,
509
00:32:21,931 --> 00:32:25,448
I was involved almost daily
in investigating him.
510
00:32:26,551 --> 00:32:29,172
Haymes spent
the next six months
511
00:32:29,206 --> 00:32:32,931
looking into
Robinson's background.
512
00:32:32,965 --> 00:32:35,793
I contacted
the social workers
513
00:32:35,827 --> 00:32:39,793
at the hospital about
the Kansas City
Outreach Program,
514
00:32:39,827 --> 00:32:43,724
and they told me that one girl
that had been referred to him,
515
00:32:43,758 --> 00:32:47,172
Lisa Stasi,
and her baby, Tiffany,
516
00:32:47,206 --> 00:32:49,862
had not been seen
for some time.
517
00:32:51,103 --> 00:32:55,275
I learned more and more
about his criminal activity
518
00:32:55,310 --> 00:32:58,206
and it's just
going on everywhere.
519
00:32:58,241 --> 00:33:02,586
Was certainly convinced
that he was up to no good.
520
00:33:02,620 --> 00:33:04,896
There's this obvious string
of-- of young girls
521
00:33:04,931 --> 00:33:06,310
that have gone missing.
522
00:33:06,344 --> 00:33:09,275
But we still don't know
at that time
523
00:33:09,310 --> 00:33:10,517
what's happening to them,
524
00:33:10,551 --> 00:33:13,275
where they are, were they
killed by Robinson,
525
00:33:13,310 --> 00:33:17,103
were they sold
into white slavery?
526
00:33:17,137 --> 00:33:20,827
If they were killed, were they
killed by his own hand?
527
00:33:20,862 --> 00:33:25,620
There's more unanswered
questions at that point
than there are answers.
528
00:33:26,862 --> 00:33:29,758
The next best thing was
to get him off the street.
529
00:33:29,793 --> 00:33:32,655
It's kind of the--
the Al Capone thing.
530
00:33:32,689 --> 00:33:34,793
If you can't get him
for what Capone did,
531
00:33:34,827 --> 00:33:36,965
you get him
for income tax evasion.
532
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,000
The goal was really
to get him off the streets
533
00:33:40,034 --> 00:33:41,689
for anything that we could.
534
00:33:42,655 --> 00:33:44,586
In Johnson County, Kansas,
535
00:33:46,034 --> 00:33:48,965
the police were investigating
Robinson for fraud.
536
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,413
He would be arrested for that,
537
00:33:51,448 --> 00:33:53,896
he would be sent
to trial for that,
538
00:33:53,931 --> 00:33:56,103
and he would be
convicted of fraud
539
00:33:56,517 --> 00:33:58,344
in 1987.
540
00:33:58,379 --> 00:34:01,241
And he would then serve
the next six years
541
00:34:01,275 --> 00:34:03,482
in prison in Kansas.
542
00:34:03,517 --> 00:34:07,586
I was relieved that
he couldn't victimize
any other young women.
543
00:34:10,448 --> 00:34:12,724
But before he went
to prison, he placed this ad
544
00:34:12,758 --> 00:34:15,206
in a newspaper
asking for help.
545
00:34:15,931 --> 00:34:16,965
And a young woman
by the name
546
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,551
of Catherine Clampitt
showed up.
547
00:34:21,758 --> 00:34:24,862
Catherine Clampitt
was a young, somewhat
548
00:34:25,517 --> 00:34:28,241
troubled young girl.
549
00:34:28,275 --> 00:34:30,586
Catherine's family
described her as being
550
00:34:30,620 --> 00:34:32,000
a very intelligent young lady.
551
00:34:32,034 --> 00:34:36,172
Had a bit of a wild side,
maybe adventurous side.
552
00:34:36,206 --> 00:34:39,931
Clampitt had a young child
that she left with her parents
553
00:34:39,965 --> 00:34:42,344
when she came up here
to the Kansas City area.
554
00:34:44,413 --> 00:34:47,344
She answered a job
ad that he had put out
555
00:34:47,379 --> 00:34:49,862
saying looking for somebody
that was interested
556
00:34:49,896 --> 00:34:51,896
in a great job
557
00:34:51,931 --> 00:34:54,379
with travel, new wardrobe.
558
00:34:54,413 --> 00:34:57,241
The kind of thing that,
you know, any young person
559
00:34:57,275 --> 00:34:59,068
might look at and go,
"Wow, this sounds great."
560
00:35:00,931 --> 00:35:03,034
Robinson
convinced her that,
561
00:35:03,068 --> 00:35:06,137
you know, he really had
a-- a good job for her.
562
00:35:07,586 --> 00:35:09,275
After she
answered that ad,
563
00:35:10,275 --> 00:35:11,620
she was never seen again.
564
00:35:15,344 --> 00:35:18,379
Letters started
showing up and they
were hand-written
565
00:35:18,931 --> 00:35:20,448
by Catherine Clampitt.
566
00:35:21,931 --> 00:35:24,793
She enquired about her kid,
she had a kid.
567
00:35:24,827 --> 00:35:27,896
She would ask questions
in the letters,
568
00:35:27,931 --> 00:35:31,034
saying that she was traveling
but it was suspicious
569
00:35:32,827 --> 00:35:35,965
because those letters all came
from the Kansas City area.
570
00:35:37,137 --> 00:35:38,931
Even after
the Kansas conviction,
571
00:35:38,965 --> 00:35:41,310
you would think
that he would be
572
00:35:41,344 --> 00:35:43,793
at least trying to be
at his best behavior.
573
00:35:44,586 --> 00:35:45,448
But he's not.
574
00:35:57,931 --> 00:36:02,275
I never met
anybody that didn't hate
John Robinson.
575
00:36:02,310 --> 00:36:04,517
And I also
did not find anybody
576
00:36:04,551 --> 00:36:06,034
that he ever
told the truth to.
577
00:36:07,137 --> 00:36:10,206
I don't think you could
probably trust anything
578
00:36:10,241 --> 00:36:12,344
that came out of his mouth.
579
00:36:12,379 --> 00:36:15,448
I've heard
that somebody
is a silver tongued devil,
580
00:36:15,482 --> 00:36:18,275
which, in his case,
is pretty apt.
581
00:36:23,965 --> 00:36:28,620
In the late 1980s,
John Robinson
is sentenced to prison.
582
00:36:28,655 --> 00:36:31,586
And at the prison, he meets
583
00:36:31,620 --> 00:36:34,034
a woman by the name
of Beverly Bonner
584
00:36:34,068 --> 00:36:37,413
who worked
in the prison library
585
00:36:37,448 --> 00:36:41,172
and was married
to the prison doctor.
586
00:36:41,206 --> 00:36:45,103
Robinson became very,
very friendly with her.
587
00:36:45,137 --> 00:36:48,448
In fact, he manipulated her
while he was in prison,
588
00:36:48,482 --> 00:36:51,103
and they soon started
an affair actually.
589
00:36:53,689 --> 00:36:56,344
In 1993, John Robinson
590
00:36:56,379 --> 00:36:58,689
was released from prison.
591
00:36:58,724 --> 00:37:02,517
And Beverly decides
that she's going
to leave her husband
592
00:37:02,551 --> 00:37:05,586
and run off with this guy.
593
00:37:06,034 --> 00:37:07,241
She got divorced,
594
00:37:07,275 --> 00:37:09,931
moved up here to be with him.
595
00:37:09,965 --> 00:37:13,517
He made her
an officer in his business.
596
00:37:13,551 --> 00:37:16,758
He also opened a couple
credit cards under her name.
597
00:37:17,724 --> 00:37:20,482
And then,
she also disappeared.
598
00:37:25,206 --> 00:37:27,965
Her family
started receiving letters
599
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,620
saying, "Having
a great time in Europe."
600
00:37:30,655 --> 00:37:33,310
And they were postmarked
from France and Switzerland.
601
00:37:34,827 --> 00:37:39,275
No one ever questioned
that she wasn't
in the Kansas City area.
602
00:37:39,310 --> 00:37:41,344
They just assumed
she was off traveling
603
00:37:41,379 --> 00:37:43,448
because of these
postmarked envelopes.
604
00:37:44,862 --> 00:37:46,827
In Beverly Bonner's case,
605
00:37:47,793 --> 00:37:49,000
her son died.
606
00:37:49,965 --> 00:37:54,275
And yet, she never
wrote a word about it.
607
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,448
Bonner had
maintenance payments
608
00:37:59,482 --> 00:38:02,517
routinely coming to her from
her ex-husband, the doctor,
609
00:38:02,551 --> 00:38:04,689
as part
of the divorce package.
610
00:38:04,724 --> 00:38:07,620
Robinson has those
sent to a post office box
611
00:38:07,655 --> 00:38:09,000
in Olathe, Kansas,
612
00:38:09,034 --> 00:38:12,000
where he then collects them
and cashes them.
613
00:38:13,344 --> 00:38:15,896
Robinson continued
to cash those checks
614
00:38:15,931 --> 00:38:17,896
for the next 18 months,
615
00:38:17,931 --> 00:38:21,655
which would have been
at least $18,000.
616
00:38:21,689 --> 00:38:24,689
He's always looking for a buck
no matter how he can get it.
617
00:38:26,586 --> 00:38:29,724
It's interesting
that through
his criminal career,
618
00:38:30,413 --> 00:38:32,379
money was a factor.
619
00:38:32,413 --> 00:38:34,344
If you think about
a lot of serial killers,
620
00:38:34,379 --> 00:38:38,931
you don't often have money
as a component of that.
621
00:38:38,965 --> 00:38:41,689
From the very beginning,
he was determined
622
00:38:41,724 --> 00:38:45,379
to take money from people
by illegal and illicit means.
623
00:38:49,172 --> 00:38:52,482
When Robinson
was released from prison,
624
00:38:52,517 --> 00:38:54,551
he lived in Missouri,
625
00:38:54,586 --> 00:38:56,517
just south of Kansas City
626
00:38:56,551 --> 00:39:00,551
in a trailer that his wife
had rented there.
627
00:39:01,793 --> 00:39:04,379
That was not within
the jurisdiction
628
00:39:04,413 --> 00:39:06,931
of my district office.
629
00:39:08,137 --> 00:39:12,965
But I held his file back
in my desk drawer.
630
00:39:14,344 --> 00:39:16,551
I would review
the file periodically.
631
00:39:16,586 --> 00:39:18,862
Was there anything
I missed? You know, what--
632
00:39:18,896 --> 00:39:20,413
What more could I do?
633
00:39:20,448 --> 00:39:22,551
What more could I investigate?
634
00:39:29,310 --> 00:39:31,620
In the '90s,
the Internet became
635
00:39:31,655 --> 00:39:35,310
an incredible part
of our everyday life.
636
00:39:35,344 --> 00:39:38,034
The irony was
that Robinson learned
637
00:39:38,068 --> 00:39:40,137
about the Internet
while he was in prison.
638
00:39:40,172 --> 00:39:41,793
He was very, very smart
639
00:39:41,827 --> 00:39:44,068
and he had
a very good head for it.
640
00:39:44,103 --> 00:39:48,068
He used to see Internet
to meet and attract women.
641
00:39:48,103 --> 00:39:49,620
For a long time,
he'd be involved
642
00:39:49,655 --> 00:39:52,482
in BDSM and sadomasochism,
643
00:39:52,517 --> 00:39:55,137
and he gravitated
towards those chat rooms.
644
00:39:56,344 --> 00:39:59,931
He actually referred
to himself as Slave Master.
645
00:39:59,965 --> 00:40:02,758
He had
five computers set up
646
00:40:02,793 --> 00:40:05,862
and with some
or all of those computers,
647
00:40:05,896 --> 00:40:07,931
he was hunting
648
00:40:07,965 --> 00:40:11,586
for new women
to victimize in some way.
649
00:40:11,620 --> 00:40:15,241
This guy would connect
with women all over America.
650
00:40:15,275 --> 00:40:17,068
It is commonly
understood
651
00:40:17,103 --> 00:40:18,793
that he was
the first serial killer
652
00:40:18,827 --> 00:40:23,793
to use the Internet
as a stalking ground
for finding victims.
653
00:40:23,827 --> 00:40:26,310
Once he got
his hands on computers,
654
00:40:26,344 --> 00:40:28,827
the whole game changed
and expanded for Robinson.
655
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,931
And he would now use that
656
00:40:31,965 --> 00:40:34,137
in the evolution
of his criminal career.
657
00:40:39,620 --> 00:40:42,310
After about
a decade of instances
658
00:40:42,344 --> 00:40:46,068
where women met John Robinson
and then disappeared,
659
00:40:46,103 --> 00:40:47,551
it's still happening.
660
00:40:47,586 --> 00:40:49,862
He told me that
he had a job with
the state department
661
00:40:49,896 --> 00:40:51,965
and that would
also be the reason
662
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,448
why he was away all the time.
663
00:40:54,482 --> 00:40:59,103
Robinson met Suzette
through an online chat room.
664
00:40:59,137 --> 00:41:02,310
On March 1,
she totally disappeared.
665
00:41:02,344 --> 00:41:03,689
I don't
know if I should
666
00:41:03,724 --> 00:41:05,655
maybe call the police
to jump in.
667
00:41:05,689 --> 00:41:06,724
Why?
668
00:41:08,068 --> 00:41:10,344
They began putting
the pieces together.
669
00:41:10,379 --> 00:41:12,275
This guy is a--
a serial killer.
670
00:41:13,310 --> 00:41:15,965
How much crazier
can this thing be?
671
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,620
When we lifted it
back up, we saw
672
00:41:17,655 --> 00:41:19,344
a little red streak
673
00:41:19,379 --> 00:41:22,344
of red liquid going down
the side of the barrel.
674
00:41:23,655 --> 00:41:26,206
He is just
evil itself.
675
00:41:27,172 --> 00:41:29,551
I mean,
he's the definition of evil.
676
00:41:35,172 --> 00:41:38,000
John Robinson's fatherly
demeanor helped shroud
677
00:41:38,034 --> 00:41:40,620
the depraved sex life
he lived behind closed doors.
678
00:41:41,137 --> 00:41:42,206
He was cunning
679
00:41:42,241 --> 00:41:44,172
and managed to dodge
suspicion about
680
00:41:44,206 --> 00:41:46,206
the ever-growing list
of women in his life
681
00:41:46,241 --> 00:41:47,931
who were never seen again.
682
00:41:47,965 --> 00:41:50,275
That is until
one victim's disappearance
683
00:41:50,310 --> 00:41:52,448
set off alarm bells
with her family,
684
00:41:52,482 --> 00:41:54,862
and her mother
confronts Robinson
685
00:41:54,896 --> 00:41:57,551
in part two
of the Slave Master.
686
00:41:57,586 --> 00:42:00,482
I'm Donnie Wahlberg,
thanks for watching.
687
00:42:00,517 --> 00:42:01,413
Good night.
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