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Welcome to "Very Scary People."
I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
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He was one of the most notorious
Mafia dons in American history.
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Born in the Bronx,
raised in Brooklyn,
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John Gotti clawed his way
to the top of the organization
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by any means necessary.
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Case in point --
the 1985 murder of Mafia boss
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Paul Castellano
so that Gotti could take over
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the powerful Gambino
crime family.
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Law enforcement and even
other goodfellas
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considered Gotti dangerous
and unpredictable.
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And for many years,
he seemed unstoppable,
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until a secret FBI operation
finally ended Gotti's reign.
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This is part 2 of "John Gotti."
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Louis DiBono was an associate
of the crime family.
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Papa:
DiBono was in construction.
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Helped build
the World Trade Center.
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All of a sudden, he disappeared.
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Papa: He was missing
for a few days.
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Nobody could find him.
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Gabriel: We had actually gotten
informant information
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that indicated -- they said,
"Hey, Louie DiBono's dead.
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He was left
in a very public place.
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You should be able
to find the body."
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Papa: The irony
of Louis DiBono's death was,
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here he was in construction,
built the world trade center,
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and his body was found
in the parking lot
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of the World Trade Center.
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Gabriel: DiBono was laying dead
in his car
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for two days
in the parking lot.
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Somebody that thought
this guy was asleep
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knocked on the window
and realized he was dead.
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He'd been just sitting there
for two days.
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Nobody had noticed.
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Papa: Gotti used DiBono,
actually, as an example.
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He would teach lessons,
and if anybody was disloyal
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or anybody wasn't listening
to John Gotti,
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there were fatal
consequences.
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Gotti, at one point,
wanted to talk with him.
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DiBono wouldn't meet with him or
wouldn't answer his telephones.
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DiBono didn't want to do what
Gotti was telling him to do.
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And for that reason,
for not coming
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when Gotti wanted him to come,
Gotti decided that he had to go.
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DiBono was going to his car,
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and an assassination team
followed him,
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cased it out...
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shot him dead in the car,
and got out of there.
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Was John Gotti an evil
or vicious person?
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Absolutely, he was.
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Schumacher:
In 1985, John Gotti was a capo
in the Gambino crime family.
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Capos, or captains,
are really like crew chiefs.
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They're responsible for either
different areas of geography
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or of different types of crimes
that they're focused on.
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And these capos have under
them soldiers and associates.
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The Gambino crime family
was the largest crime family
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in the greater New York area.
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They were extremely powerful
and were involved
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in just a vast array
of criminal enterprises,
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everything from bookmaking
and loan-sharking,
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up to their control of unions,
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involvement with
the construction industry.
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The Gambinos were one of the
five Mafia families in New York,
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and this was the structure
of organized crime.
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In 1985, Paul Castellano
was the boss
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of the Gambino crime family.
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Gotti didn't think
highly of him at all.
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He thought, frankly,
that Castellano
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should never have been put
in the position he was put in.
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Gotti decides
that Castellano has to go.
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DeStefano:
And that's what happened.
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He went after Castellano
and set up the infamous
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December 1985 assassination
of Castellano
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in front
of Sparks Steak House.
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Schumacher:
After Castellano's death,
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Gotti makes a bid
to become the boss,
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and he ultimately
does become the boss.
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Once John Gotti becomes the head
of the Gambino crime family,
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what emerges is
a very unprecedented
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and very public head
of a mob family.
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Elevation to stardom
in the Mafia
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was a sea change for John Gotti.
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Before he became boss,
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he was known as sort
of a casual dresser,
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often seen walking around
in jackets,
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one of which was
for the Oakland Raiders.
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And, suddenly, overnight,
his whole attire changed.
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He started wearing
hand-painted ties,
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believe it or not,
monogrammed socks.
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He would show up in these,
you know, $1,000 Armani suits.
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He would be dapper John.
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He got his hair done every day,
got a shave.
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He switched his whole lifestyle
from being a Queens hood
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to being this sort of
boss-of-bosses-type character.
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Morrill:
John Gotti was truly a wolf
in sheep's clothing.
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The John Gotti that I knew
was a common criminal,
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and crime took no holiday
when it was in John's hands.
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Cardinale: His presence
was such that if he were annoyed
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or if he was mad,
you couldn't miss it.
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It would be like
a storm brewing.
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You could see it in his eyes.
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His eyes, in my view,
would literally change color
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and become really, really dark
when he was really infuriated.
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He was somebody who had
no issues at all
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about brow-beating people
within his organization.
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He sent out a warning
to the capos
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and everybody else
in the family
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that if they were picked up
on any kind of recording or bug,
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they would be met with death.
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Gabriel: These guys
are dangerous people.
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Killing is in their fabric.
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They're able to turn
on people on a dime.
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If they feel threatened in any
way, their reaction to it is,
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"That guy's got to go,"
period, and he goes.
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And it's your friend
who's doing it.
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So there's a different level
of ruthlessness behind that.
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And John Gotti was
the epitome of that.
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If you crossed John Gotti,
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you were probably going to be
dead within 24 hours.
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It was part of his whole
homicidal character.
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He didn't care what
the consequences were.
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There comes a time
when John Gotti allegedly
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has a dispute with
a refrigerator repairman
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named Romual Piecyk.
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Raab:
Gotti went to a bar in Queens,
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and he double-parked.
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And Gotti saw this guy honking,
whose car he had blocked,
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and he walked over and told him
to go [bleep] himself.
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And this repairman
talked back to him.
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So, in typical Gotti fashion,
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they started beating
up this guy.
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Cardinale:
Gotti was a street guy.
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He was not a kind of person
you'd want to get mad.
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Raab: They took his money
and then drove off.
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Gotti didn't expect any problem.
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Cardinale: The guy then goes
to the police,
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claims that he was attacked
for no reason,
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and John gets arrested.
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Gabriel: It's not until
a year or two later,
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that matter now comes to trial.
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Raab: And, suddenly,
Gotti, instead of being
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this almost nobody in Queens,
now is a big figure.
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He's the head
of the Gambino family.
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The refrigerator repairman,
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suddenly realizing who he got
into a scuffle with,
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got this case of amnesia.
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Papa: He realized
who he was dealing with
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and he didn't want to deal
with the consequences.
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He testified that he didn't know
who that man was.
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He didn't know
who John Gotti was.
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He didn't remember anything
that happened to him.
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And so that whole case
just went up in smoke.
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Raab: Of course, Gotti walked.
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To him, it was an example
of how invincible he was.
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Man: John Gotti was in Brooklyn
federal court on Monday.
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Gotti and six co-defendants
were charged under the Rico Act,
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which stands for racketeer
influenced corrupt organization.
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Gabriel: He's indicted
in the early '80s.
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It's street-level
criminal activity.
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It's a loan-sharking case.
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It's gambling.
It's some hijackings.
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It's been lingering for a while,
so in '86,
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when that case
finally comes to trial,
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this is a another shot
to take him off the street.
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Man: John Gotti had been free on
$1 million bail, pending trial.
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Officials say they confiscated
several cigars
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and locked Gotti up.
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The alleged godfather is a man
with considerable charisma.
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But prosecutors hope to put
that charisma behind bars
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for the next 40 years.
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The prosecutors were not
particularly experienced,
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but they were optimistic
that they could
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somehow pull this off.
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This case went on and on.
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It went on for months.
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We would ask him,
"How's it going in the trial?"
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And he would say,
"Oh, we're going to
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win this case no problem."
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Man: None of the people on trial
looked nervous,
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even though they could
have faced 40 years
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in prison if convicted.
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Ultimately, the jury in march of
1987, declared Gotti not guilty.
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Papa: He was acquitted
in that case, as well.
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Raab: The truth is,
it was a fixed trial.
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Gotti had no way of losing.
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DeStefano: His underlings
had learned about
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the identity of a juror
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and approached the juror
with an offer --
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$60,000, give or take.
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And the juror was essentially
agreeing to hang the jury.
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Schumacher: In Gotti's world,
Sammy Gravano was his underboss.
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He was his right-hand man
on all the important endeavors.
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Sammy Gravano
was actually the guy
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that delivered the money
to pay this juror off.
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Gravano:
I worked out a deal with him for
$60,000 to find him not guilty.
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DeStefano: It wasn't a case
of good defense
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in that case for Gotti.
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Simply a classic
corruption case.
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Announcer:
Welcome to "Larry King Live."
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Tonight, will they finally
get the godfather?
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King: Reputed to be the boss
of the nation's
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most powerful Mafia
crime family,
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Gotti is charged
with ordering the shooting
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of a union official.
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Feldman: During the late '80s,
John O'Connor
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was a union leader
in New York City.
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And he ended up having
a confrontation
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with the Gambino crime family.
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And in retribution, John Gotti
and the Gambino family allegedly
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went after John O'Connor.
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And O'Connor was shot
multiple times,
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although he did
survive the shooting.
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A lot of people who observed
the trial at the time
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thought the evidence
was pretty strong.
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There were tapes where he said,
"I'm going to bust them up.
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Man: But O'Connor, the man
with the white hair,
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was subpoenaed by Gotti
to testify for the defense.
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He dealt the government
a major blow.
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Raab: He testified, in effect,
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that he never heard
anything from John Gotti.
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He didn't know who shot him.
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Man: The Gotti case will go
to the jury early next week.
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If he is found not guilty,
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it would be the third time
in a row
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that the government would have
failed to convict Gotti,
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and that, said one
longtime courtroom observer,
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would make the government look
"pretty stupid."
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Man: We find him not guilty.
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He was acquitted in that case
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and he walked out
of there scot-free.
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What was unknown until later,
that this jury
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also might have been fixed.
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Gravano: He knew that,
at bare minimum,
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he had a hung jury.
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He wasn't going to get
found guilty.
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I got it.
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Woman: A shake and a kiss
from his lawyer, and with that,
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he was off and running,
Gotti looking more like Rocky,
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pumped up with the victory
of his latest legal bought.
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[ People cheering ]
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When he left the courthouse
that day,
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there were thousands
of people
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waiting outside,
cheering for him.
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Man: It was his third acquittal
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in three separate cases
since 1986.
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DeStefano: That gave him the
reputation as the Teflon Don,
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when no charges could stick,
it seemed.
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Man: Legal experts
say the bumbling of state
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and federal prosecutors
in the past four years
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has given Gotti
an aura of invincibility.
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Here, we have this guy that
just keeps thumbing his nose
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at law enforcement,
keeps winning
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these criminal cases
in the public's eye,
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and we got to find a way
to put him in jail.
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The feds were getting
pretty frustrated
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and really wanted
to take this guy down.
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Subsequent to that, the FBI
made Gotti a priority.
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Woman: The way things
have been going, though,
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no one's betting on
who gets the last laugh.
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What did you think when you
would read your father's name
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and the word "gangster"?
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What did you feel, think?
274
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Well, it was never about that.
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It was always
about the exposure.
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It was always about dealing
with the publicity.
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It was overwhelming.
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It's something that you really
have to get used to,
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and I think you really
never fully do.
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Mob bosses normally
like to be as low-key
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as they possibly can be
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so as not to attract the
attention of law enforcement.
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Gotti was a different
kind of guy.
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He was not low-key.
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Schumacher: He was not afraid
of public attention.
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He was a little bit like
Al Capone
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in that he really reveled
in becoming a celebrity.
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And the New York tabloids
in particular just loved him.
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John took on this persona.
"I'm John Gotti, world.
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Come see me and know me."
291
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Raab: He decided
that he was so important
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that nobody could touch him.
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He commanded large
print headlines
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in all the local tabloids.
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He wanted the attention.
He loved the attention.
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How do you feel,
Mr. Gotti?
297
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Pretty good.
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A real collaborator
of John Gotti
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and his image was the media.
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Feldman:
John Gotti and the press had
this interesting relationship,
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because both parties
benefited.
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John Gotti felt, I think,
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that the press coverage
enhanced his bona fides
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for the mob family
that he was in control off.
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The press, in turn,
knew he made good headlines,
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he made good footage
for the evening news.
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And Gotti was very good
at manipulating the press.
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He occasionally would flip cash
to homeless people
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who might have been
camped out in front
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of some of the courthouses.
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And, of course, he was savvy
enough to know that,
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what footage made
the news that night?
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It was John Gotti giving money
to the homeless.
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He's going to give you
some money.
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Here's some money.
316
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Man: The head
of the Gambino crime family,
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a real-life godfather.
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There's a two-edged sword
kind of here, though,
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because the press liked him,
didn't they?
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Wasn't John Gotti a figure
they liked to cover?
321
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Well, he was very likable,
just his personality.
322
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He responded to them, he talked
to them when he walked, right?
323
00:17:59,746 --> 00:18:04,042
Yeah. I think that without
having to respond, he responded.
324
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It was just that kind
of a seduction.
325
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The press romanticized him,
glorified him, glamorized him.
326
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Woman: Gotti oozes mobster
mystique from his silver hair
327
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to his supposedly
monogrammed socks.
328
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"Dressed to kill" is how
the tabloids describe him.
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He was a celebrity,
plain and simple.
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Raab: Gotti was not only popular
with the press in New York,
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he was popular
in his neighborhood.
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Woman:
Hundreds of people gathered
for an all-day block party
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with free hot dogs
and hamburgers,
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all apparently courtesy
of the man
335
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they call the "Dapper Don,"
336
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reputed New York
crime boss John Gotti.
337
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John Gotti seemed to be
the Robin Hood
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in his neighborhood.
339
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He would have a fourth
of July party
340
00:18:52,465 --> 00:18:56,094
and he would fund the party
and the fireworks.
341
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I know him as a lovely person
who always says hello.
342
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People really regarded him,
in a way, as a folk hero
343
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and as somebody who brought
joy to their neighborhood.
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They looked at him as a leader,
345
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as someone
who was protecting them.
346
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There's always been this aura
in this country with the Mafia.
347
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DeStefano:
It was part of the myth
at that mafiosi or the Mafia
348
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was really
a benevolent association.
349
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What they didn't appreciate,
of course,
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is what that was hiding,
351
00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:38,636
and what was hiding was somebody
who was a ruthless killer.
352
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,765
Schumacher: We know for sure
that John Gotti was involved,
353
00:19:41,848 --> 00:19:43,892
in one way or another,
with five murders,
354
00:19:44,017 --> 00:19:46,853
but being the boss
of the Gambino crime family
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and being a capo before that,
356
00:19:48,980 --> 00:19:52,567
it's almost certain
that the number is higher.
357
00:19:52,692 --> 00:19:55,111
There was never really
a lot of coverage
358
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about what a murderous
criminal he was.
359
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This is not some Robin Hood.
360
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This is a person
who is a plain hood.
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♪♪
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♪♪
363
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Welcome back to
"Very Scary People."
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In public, John Gotti was known
for his swagger, coiffed hair
365
00:20:23,682 --> 00:20:25,392
and brash personality.
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Many in his neighborhood
of Howard Beach
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00:20:27,227 --> 00:20:30,730
considered him generous,
a modern-day Robin Hood.
368
00:20:30,814 --> 00:20:33,400
But behind the scenes,
gangster Gotti was running
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00:20:33,483 --> 00:20:36,194
the violent Gambino
crime family.
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Time and time again, he proved
371
00:20:38,196 --> 00:20:40,490
he would let no one
stand in his way.
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♪♪
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DeStefano: Gotti was a guy
who wanted to be a gangster,
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and in his mind,
to be a gangster,
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00:20:48,373 --> 00:20:49,582
you had to be tough.
376
00:20:49,666 --> 00:20:50,875
You had to want to kill.
377
00:20:50,959 --> 00:20:54,879
The Robert DiBernardo case
was key in point.
378
00:20:54,963 --> 00:20:58,091
DiBernardo was a very well-known
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and respected member
of the Gambino family.
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Papa: DiBernardo was sort
of an independent operator
381
00:21:04,764 --> 00:21:09,436
but made a lot of money
in the porn business.
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00:21:09,519 --> 00:21:13,565
Gabriel: Word gets sent to John
that Robert DiBernardo
383
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was talking behind John's back,
he's being disloyal.
384
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So John says, "Alright,
if that's true, kill him.
385
00:21:21,614 --> 00:21:22,657
He's got to go."
386
00:21:22,782 --> 00:21:25,952
John is that quick
to turn on him.
387
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DeStefano: Gravano said he tried
to talk him out of it.
388
00:21:28,288 --> 00:21:30,081
"That's no real reason
to kill him.
389
00:21:30,165 --> 00:21:31,624
For insults?"
390
00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:32,959
Gravano: When he ordered a hit,
391
00:21:33,043 --> 00:21:35,962
he wanted it done yesterday.
392
00:21:36,087 --> 00:21:38,298
He would send me to supervise
or control it
393
00:21:38,381 --> 00:21:42,635
or make sure the job got done.
394
00:21:42,719 --> 00:21:44,471
And I obviously did.
395
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DeStefano: So, they had
DiBernardo come
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to a meeting in Brooklyn to --
397
00:21:49,476 --> 00:21:51,144
I think it was
Sammy's office.
398
00:21:51,227 --> 00:21:54,606
And while they were making
coffee and DiBernardo
399
00:21:54,689 --> 00:21:57,984
was distracted
by talking to Gravano,
400
00:21:58,068 --> 00:22:00,653
an old man, "Old Man Paruta,"
401
00:22:00,737 --> 00:22:04,157
I think was the name,
came up behind DiBernardo
402
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:09,913
and shot him in the head
and killed him right there.
403
00:22:09,996 --> 00:22:11,998
Papa: Robert DiBernardo
was never seen
404
00:22:12,082 --> 00:22:15,210
or heard from again,
and they never found his body.
405
00:22:15,335 --> 00:22:24,844
♪♪
406
00:22:24,928 --> 00:22:30,141
Feldman:
John Gotti was the number-one
target for the government,
407
00:22:30,225 --> 00:22:33,311
partly because he was
rubbing it in their faces,
408
00:22:33,395 --> 00:22:35,438
and government officials
at the time
409
00:22:35,522 --> 00:22:37,732
were very open
about saying that.
410
00:22:37,857 --> 00:22:40,819
He was somebody
they could not permit
411
00:22:40,902 --> 00:22:44,114
to have that kind of power,
if you will.
412
00:22:44,197 --> 00:22:48,034
The feds were going to have
to make a better case.
413
00:22:48,159 --> 00:22:49,160
How do you do that?
414
00:22:49,244 --> 00:22:51,371
They needed quality evidence.
415
00:22:51,496 --> 00:22:55,792
♪♪
416
00:22:55,875 --> 00:22:58,795
Papa: John Gotti inherited
the Ravenite Social Club
417
00:22:58,878 --> 00:23:01,673
in Mulberry Street
in little Italy.
418
00:23:01,756 --> 00:23:06,052
And this is where he had
his meetings with his colleagues
419
00:23:06,136 --> 00:23:09,514
and with his crew members.
420
00:23:09,597 --> 00:23:12,475
The feds actually rented
a location
421
00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:15,478
about a block or two north.
422
00:23:15,562 --> 00:23:18,732
And they started
video surveillance
423
00:23:18,857 --> 00:23:23,278
of Gotti along that street.
424
00:23:23,403 --> 00:23:24,863
They would see his habits
425
00:23:24,946 --> 00:23:27,240
and they would see
who was showing up.
426
00:23:27,365 --> 00:23:30,201
But that wasn't quite enough,
427
00:23:30,285 --> 00:23:31,745
and so what they needed
to do is,
428
00:23:31,870 --> 00:23:33,997
they needed to have recordings
429
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,208
of John Gotti
having conversations.
430
00:23:37,292 --> 00:23:40,754
He would come out and do
what we dubbed "walk talks."
431
00:23:40,879 --> 00:23:44,090
So they would walk
down the street --
432
00:23:44,174 --> 00:23:45,508
sometimes, it's whispering --
433
00:23:45,592 --> 00:23:47,927
so they can have a good
criminal conversation,
434
00:23:48,053 --> 00:23:49,763
where it's very tough to bug.
435
00:23:49,888 --> 00:23:53,141
So I started experimenting
with parabolic mics.
436
00:23:53,266 --> 00:23:55,435
I'm putting them
in roof racks of vehicles,
437
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,397
trying to cover as much
of the street as I can.
438
00:23:59,481 --> 00:24:02,734
But it didn't lead
to very much evidence.
439
00:24:05,153 --> 00:24:07,614
We eventually put a bug
in the Ravenite.
440
00:24:07,697 --> 00:24:11,034
And those bugs go on
for several, several months.
441
00:24:11,117 --> 00:24:14,621
We get snippets
of criminal conversation,
442
00:24:14,746 --> 00:24:17,040
but the clubs are very noisy.
443
00:24:17,123 --> 00:24:19,876
The conversations are broken up.
444
00:24:19,959 --> 00:24:21,252
DeStefano: They realized,
at certain points,
445
00:24:21,336 --> 00:24:23,088
that Gotti would be absent
446
00:24:23,171 --> 00:24:25,131
from the conversations.
447
00:24:25,256 --> 00:24:28,134
And they were watching
the club and they said,
448
00:24:28,218 --> 00:24:29,594
"He never left the building.
449
00:24:29,678 --> 00:24:31,179
Where did he go?"
450
00:24:31,304 --> 00:24:32,889
Gabriel: I'm hearing
he's disappearing
451
00:24:32,972 --> 00:24:35,475
for like 45 minutes or an hour.
452
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,061
And, again, I'm checking
my surveillance tapes,
453
00:24:38,144 --> 00:24:40,313
and he's still
in the building.
454
00:24:40,397 --> 00:24:42,148
He hasn't left.
455
00:24:42,232 --> 00:24:44,526
Where is he?
456
00:24:44,651 --> 00:24:47,696
Papa: Then they realized
that John Gotti
457
00:24:47,821 --> 00:24:52,826
was using an apartment
over the Ravenite Social Club.
458
00:24:52,951 --> 00:24:55,370
This belonged to an older woman.
459
00:24:55,495 --> 00:24:57,038
And they would go up there,
460
00:24:57,163 --> 00:24:58,998
and they would sit
in the living room,
461
00:24:59,082 --> 00:25:01,292
having a conversation.
462
00:25:01,376 --> 00:25:03,336
That was crucial.
463
00:25:05,797 --> 00:25:08,258
Feldman: They needed to plant
listening devices
464
00:25:08,341 --> 00:25:11,011
in the old lady's apartment.
465
00:25:11,094 --> 00:25:12,929
But how do you do that?
466
00:25:13,013 --> 00:25:16,641
Because she was almost
always there.
467
00:25:16,725 --> 00:25:20,311
Gabriel: I put a device known as
a pen register on her phone --
468
00:25:20,395 --> 00:25:23,773
it monitors activity -- figuring
that would give me some clues
469
00:25:23,857 --> 00:25:27,527
as to when she was around
or wasn't around.
470
00:25:27,610 --> 00:25:31,031
I have a deal with my tech guys
that if I can assure them that
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00:25:31,156 --> 00:25:36,202
she's not in on any given night,
that they'd be ready to go.
472
00:25:36,327 --> 00:25:38,913
So they waited and they waited.
473
00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:40,206
There were one or two weekends
474
00:25:40,290 --> 00:25:42,208
where I was
reasonably confident,
475
00:25:42,334 --> 00:25:44,794
from the lack of any activity,
476
00:25:44,878 --> 00:25:47,297
that she was probably
not around.
477
00:25:47,380 --> 00:25:48,548
And I'd wait till about midnight
478
00:25:48,631 --> 00:25:51,551
and I'd call
the number to confirm.
479
00:25:51,676 --> 00:25:53,261
And I'd wind up waking her up.
480
00:25:53,386 --> 00:25:55,388
She'd answer the phone,
and I'd feel terrible
481
00:25:55,472 --> 00:25:58,558
and, you know,
get myself off the line.
482
00:25:58,641 --> 00:26:00,560
But the third or fourth time,
483
00:26:00,685 --> 00:26:03,021
I had like two days
of no activity on the phone.
484
00:26:03,104 --> 00:26:04,564
[ Telephone ringing ]
485
00:26:04,689 --> 00:26:05,982
She doesn't answer the phone.
486
00:26:06,066 --> 00:26:07,275
So that night, those guys --
487
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,110
I call them up and said,
"Hey, she's gone."
488
00:26:09,235 --> 00:26:11,446
And they go in
and they put the bugs in.
489
00:26:11,571 --> 00:26:14,532
The FBI broke
into her apartment,
490
00:26:14,616 --> 00:26:18,495
put bugs in in the lamp,
got out and waited.
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♪♪
492
00:26:24,209 --> 00:26:29,589
Papa:
On November 30th, the feds were
finally able to get very clear,
493
00:26:29,714 --> 00:26:35,595
damaging tapes of John Gotti's
own voice and in his own words.
494
00:26:55,323 --> 00:27:00,286
When you heard him speak,
he was very gruff.
495
00:27:00,412 --> 00:27:02,664
He was very street.
496
00:27:08,461 --> 00:27:11,673
He had a real thick
New York accent.
497
00:27:11,798 --> 00:27:14,134
I believe he never really
gave interviews
498
00:27:14,259 --> 00:27:17,971
because he didn't want
to be heard like that.
499
00:27:18,054 --> 00:27:21,307
Otherwise, he looked pretty
slick and sophisticated
500
00:27:21,433 --> 00:27:23,768
and pretty put together
on the outside.
501
00:27:28,982 --> 00:27:30,775
Feldman: John Gotti --
he was very comfortable
502
00:27:30,859 --> 00:27:35,071
talking in the confines
of that little apartment.
503
00:27:35,155 --> 00:27:37,866
Conversations are turning
from different topics,
504
00:27:37,991 --> 00:27:40,410
and it goes into
the Paul Castellano hit
505
00:27:40,493 --> 00:27:41,995
and why they killed him.
506
00:27:47,834 --> 00:27:49,669
They were also able
to capture him
507
00:27:49,753 --> 00:27:54,674
talking about the murders
of members of his family.
508
00:28:04,517 --> 00:28:06,353
Cardinale: Those were
the most important tapes
509
00:28:06,478 --> 00:28:08,855
that they got against John.
510
00:28:08,938 --> 00:28:11,691
Raab: It gave them a mountain
of evidence,
511
00:28:11,816 --> 00:28:15,362
and that was the key
to finally indicting him.
512
00:28:15,445 --> 00:28:18,865
♪♪
513
00:28:18,990 --> 00:28:23,203
John Gotti was arrested
on December 11, 1990.
514
00:28:23,286 --> 00:28:24,954
Gabriel: I go barging
into the club,
515
00:28:25,038 --> 00:28:27,457
and there's John and Sammy
sitting at their table.
516
00:28:27,540 --> 00:28:28,958
And, you know, John looks at me.
517
00:28:29,042 --> 00:28:31,252
He goes, "Oh, we were
expecting you.
518
00:28:31,378 --> 00:28:33,421
I know why you're here."
519
00:28:33,546 --> 00:28:35,632
I said, "Well, that's good.
That makes this easy."
520
00:28:35,715 --> 00:28:37,050
And he said, "Well, you know,
can we at least
521
00:28:37,175 --> 00:28:38,259
finish our coffee?"
522
00:28:38,385 --> 00:28:39,886
I said, "Yeah, enjoy
your coffee.
523
00:28:40,011 --> 00:28:41,930
We're not in a rush.
524
00:28:42,055 --> 00:28:45,392
We'll be going home later.
You won't be."
525
00:28:45,475 --> 00:28:48,853
There's a classic photo
of the table in the Ravenite
526
00:28:48,937 --> 00:28:50,772
with three cups of espresso,
527
00:28:50,897 --> 00:28:53,900
which was the last espresso
Gotti ever had,
528
00:28:53,983 --> 00:28:56,986
I believe, as a free man.
529
00:28:57,070 --> 00:29:00,031
Man: John Gotti wore his
customary look of nonchalance
530
00:29:00,115 --> 00:29:04,369
as FBI agents led him away from
a federal processing center.
531
00:29:04,452 --> 00:29:06,913
They've said they are determined
to put him in prison
532
00:29:06,996 --> 00:29:08,581
for the rest of his life.
533
00:29:08,665 --> 00:29:14,337
♪♪
534
00:29:17,757 --> 00:29:21,803
♪♪
535
00:29:21,928 --> 00:29:24,431
Man: Gotti and three associates
in the Gambino family
536
00:29:24,556 --> 00:29:26,224
have been indicted
on federal charges
537
00:29:26,307 --> 00:29:30,395
that include murder
and racketeering.
538
00:29:30,478 --> 00:29:32,313
Raab: Shortly before Christmas,
539
00:29:32,439 --> 00:29:35,191
the FBI and
the justice department
540
00:29:35,275 --> 00:29:38,695
indicted him on
a whole bevy of charges
541
00:29:38,778 --> 00:29:41,322
that could lead
to a life sentence.
542
00:29:41,448 --> 00:29:44,784
And they also indicted
Sammy "The Bull" Gravano.
543
00:29:44,868 --> 00:29:47,245
Man: One charge includes
the killing of former mob boss
544
00:29:47,328 --> 00:29:49,831
Paul Castellano,
allegedly rubbed out
545
00:29:49,956 --> 00:29:51,958
so Gotti could take over.
546
00:29:52,083 --> 00:29:54,294
He's a murderer.
He's not a folk hero.
547
00:29:54,377 --> 00:29:57,047
He's charged with four murders
in this indictment.
548
00:29:57,130 --> 00:29:58,590
He's charged
with conspiring to murder
549
00:29:58,673 --> 00:30:02,052
another member of organized
crime in the indictment.
550
00:30:02,135 --> 00:30:04,137
He's a criminal,
in our judgement.
551
00:30:04,262 --> 00:30:06,306
Feldman: Certainly, the press
at the time were at the point
552
00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:09,309
where it was another
John Gotti bust.
553
00:30:09,392 --> 00:30:11,728
Let's see how he gets
out of this one.
554
00:30:14,230 --> 00:30:18,026
So, before the trial began,
various recordings were played,
555
00:30:18,151 --> 00:30:21,446
and John Gotti
and his other defendants,
556
00:30:21,529 --> 00:30:23,615
including
Sammy "The Bull" Gravano,
557
00:30:23,698 --> 00:30:25,909
were present to hear that.
558
00:30:25,992 --> 00:30:29,871
There was a sense that Gotti and
Gravano were in this together,
559
00:30:29,996 --> 00:30:34,000
they were partners
in everything they were doing.
560
00:30:34,125 --> 00:30:37,837
The apartment bug,
where Gotti was picked up,
561
00:30:37,962 --> 00:30:41,424
ultimately had
another twist to it.
562
00:30:41,508 --> 00:30:45,762
Gravano was not always present
for these conversations.
563
00:30:45,845 --> 00:30:50,642
And on some of the tapes,
Gotti was not, to put it mildly,
564
00:30:50,725 --> 00:30:54,104
charitable in his comments
about Gravano.
565
00:30:54,187 --> 00:30:57,691
DeStefano: Gotti is heard
complaining about Gravano.
566
00:30:57,774 --> 00:30:58,983
He ruminated about
567
00:30:59,067 --> 00:31:03,822
Sammy "The Bull" Gravano's
earning power.
568
00:31:03,905 --> 00:31:07,450
But, more importantly,
he implicates Sammy
569
00:31:07,534 --> 00:31:09,119
in like three murders.
570
00:31:17,544 --> 00:31:19,254
Papa: The tapes
were being played.
571
00:31:19,379 --> 00:31:22,215
Gravano and Gotti
were sitting there.
572
00:31:22,298 --> 00:31:25,385
And it isn't pretty.
573
00:31:25,468 --> 00:31:28,304
You can only imagine
what's going on in their minds.
574
00:31:28,388 --> 00:31:31,057
That was going to be a problem.
575
00:31:31,182 --> 00:31:36,021
Gravano: When I heard this tape,
I was devastated.
576
00:31:36,104 --> 00:31:39,733
He's betraying me
behind my back.
577
00:31:39,858 --> 00:31:43,903
Cardinale:
Sammy started to see that
he was in deep, deep trouble.
578
00:31:44,029 --> 00:31:46,406
He saw the writing on the wall.
579
00:31:46,531 --> 00:31:48,575
Raab: A major weakness in Gotti
580
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:51,202
was this misjudgment
of characters.
581
00:31:51,286 --> 00:31:54,039
What he really didn't
understand about Sammy
582
00:31:54,122 --> 00:31:55,248
is that, very simply,
583
00:31:55,373 --> 00:31:57,667
Sammy had never served
any jail time.
584
00:31:57,751 --> 00:32:01,296
Nobody knew what his character
would be if he got into trouble.
585
00:32:04,466 --> 00:32:09,387
Sammy "The Bull" Gravano
notified the FBI
586
00:32:09,471 --> 00:32:12,349
that he was willing to defect.
587
00:32:12,432 --> 00:32:13,933
Cardinale: One day,
all of a sudden,
588
00:32:14,017 --> 00:32:16,895
he is supposedly taken out
for medical reasons,
589
00:32:16,978 --> 00:32:18,897
and he never comes back.
590
00:32:18,980 --> 00:32:21,775
And it becomes clear to everyone
that the reason he's gone
591
00:32:21,858 --> 00:32:25,612
is because he's decided
to become a government witness.
592
00:32:25,737 --> 00:32:30,283
He is actually now
working with the FBI.
593
00:32:30,408 --> 00:32:34,287
Feldman: That was a monumental
decision for him,
594
00:32:34,412 --> 00:32:38,291
and it was a major win
for the government.
595
00:32:38,375 --> 00:32:40,710
Cardinale: It was shocking.
There's no question about it.
596
00:32:40,794 --> 00:32:43,672
No one ever expected
that to happen.
597
00:32:43,797 --> 00:32:46,633
Gravano knew
where all the skeletons
598
00:32:46,758 --> 00:32:50,303
were buried, literally.
599
00:32:50,387 --> 00:32:52,305
John's a double-crosser.
600
00:32:52,430 --> 00:32:54,432
I'm a master double-crosser.
601
00:32:54,516 --> 00:32:57,143
We played chess, and he lost.
602
00:32:57,227 --> 00:33:02,315
♪♪
603
00:33:05,694 --> 00:33:06,903
Man: No tickets are being sold,
604
00:33:06,986 --> 00:33:09,072
but the January trial
of John Gotti
605
00:33:09,155 --> 00:33:12,617
promises to be a bout
of major proportions.
606
00:33:15,078 --> 00:33:17,330
Feldman: The trial, if you will,
of John Gotti started
607
00:33:17,455 --> 00:33:20,500
on the 21st of January in 1992.
608
00:33:20,625 --> 00:33:22,836
Papa:
The charges were sensational.
609
00:33:22,961 --> 00:33:25,338
The murders were sensational.
610
00:33:25,422 --> 00:33:27,841
And here's John Gotti.
611
00:33:27,924 --> 00:33:29,634
Will he beat this rap?
612
00:33:29,718 --> 00:33:32,053
That was really the question.
613
00:33:33,722 --> 00:33:36,516
Miller: Entering the fourth
trial, it did appear
614
00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:40,020
that the government
pulled out all stops.
615
00:33:40,145 --> 00:33:42,480
Papa: This was almost
about reputations,
616
00:33:42,564 --> 00:33:45,233
that the prosecutors
needed this conviction
617
00:33:45,358 --> 00:33:49,195
because John Gotti was
getting away with murder.
618
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:51,364
Feldman: This case against
John Gotti was executed
619
00:33:51,448 --> 00:33:52,907
in a very different way.
620
00:33:53,033 --> 00:33:54,993
So, let's take the jury,
for example.
621
00:33:55,076 --> 00:33:58,204
The jury was sequestered
throughout the entire trial,
622
00:33:58,288 --> 00:34:03,043
and that was something that was
not the norm at all at the time.
623
00:34:03,126 --> 00:34:04,419
There was a genuine concern,
624
00:34:04,544 --> 00:34:07,714
because of the prior
jury-fixing incidents,
625
00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:10,133
that, somehow, Gotti
or his henchmen
626
00:34:10,216 --> 00:34:12,260
would try to reach out
to one or more
627
00:34:12,385 --> 00:34:16,765
jury members
to fix the trial.
628
00:34:16,890 --> 00:34:18,224
Unlike previous attempts,
629
00:34:18,308 --> 00:34:20,518
this time,
the federal government
630
00:34:20,602 --> 00:34:24,147
had two things going
for its case against John Gotti.
631
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:27,484
The first thing, of course,
is it had those recordings,
632
00:34:27,567 --> 00:34:30,737
the recordings that were made
where you can hear
633
00:34:30,820 --> 00:34:32,113
John Gotti discussing
634
00:34:32,238 --> 00:34:37,077
all sorts of nefarious
operations of his family.
635
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,245
The tapes were very compelling.
636
00:34:39,371 --> 00:34:41,581
Gabriel: What's he going to say?
"I didn't say that"?
637
00:34:41,664 --> 00:34:45,835
The evidence was very strong.
638
00:34:45,919 --> 00:34:48,088
Feldman: And the most important
thing they had
639
00:34:48,213 --> 00:34:50,757
was Sammy "The Bull" Gravano.
640
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,054
Man: Sammy "The Bull" Gravano
took the witness stand
641
00:34:56,137 --> 00:34:58,473
in Brooklyn Federal Court
Monday.
642
00:34:58,598 --> 00:35:00,475
Feldman: The case
has been unfolding now
643
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,769
for a little more
than a month or so.
644
00:35:02,894 --> 00:35:05,438
The moment that everybody
was now waiting for --
645
00:35:05,522 --> 00:35:09,984
the testimony in court
of Sammy "The Bull" Gravano.
646
00:35:10,110 --> 00:35:14,030
That was a big deal,
because it had never happened
647
00:35:14,114 --> 00:35:18,368
before in any Mafia case
anywhere in the world, really,
648
00:35:18,451 --> 00:35:22,205
that you would have someone
that powerful come and testify
649
00:35:22,288 --> 00:35:26,626
in court against
his former boss, John Gotti.
650
00:35:26,751 --> 00:35:31,131
Gravano: I knew at that point
my life was over
651
00:35:31,214 --> 00:35:33,967
as Salvatore
"Sammy The Bull" Gravano.
652
00:35:34,092 --> 00:35:36,553
I would be called a rat,
a traitor, an informer.
653
00:35:36,636 --> 00:35:39,597
I would be called
a million different names.
654
00:35:39,681 --> 00:35:43,476
My family would have to live
through this horror,
655
00:35:43,601 --> 00:35:45,395
but I was done.
656
00:35:47,647 --> 00:35:51,067
Papa: Gravano came onto
that witness stand,
657
00:35:51,151 --> 00:35:53,486
into the seat so quietly.
658
00:35:53,611 --> 00:35:57,657
Everybody really held
their collective breath.
659
00:35:57,741 --> 00:36:02,495
It was a very
dramatic experience.
660
00:36:02,620 --> 00:36:07,000
Gotti had a kind
of smirk on his face.
661
00:36:07,125 --> 00:36:08,501
Gotti might have been thinking,
662
00:36:08,626 --> 00:36:16,009
"If I walk out of this one,
good luck, Mr. Gravano."
663
00:36:16,092 --> 00:36:18,845
Man: Gravano admitted that
he was the underboss,
664
00:36:18,928 --> 00:36:20,180
the second-in-command,
665
00:36:20,305 --> 00:36:22,515
of the nation's
most powerful Mafia family,
666
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:26,686
the Gambinos, at the time
he and Gotti were arrested.
667
00:36:26,811 --> 00:36:29,689
Gravano testified
that John Gotti helped plan
668
00:36:29,814 --> 00:36:34,694
the 1985 rub-out
of godfather Paul Castellano.
669
00:36:34,819 --> 00:36:36,863
In one of the most
significant mob defections
670
00:36:36,946 --> 00:36:39,532
in U.S. history,
Gravano described,
671
00:36:39,657 --> 00:36:41,201
in blood-curdling detail,
672
00:36:41,326 --> 00:36:44,079
the plot to kill
Paul Castellano.
673
00:36:44,204 --> 00:36:47,040
He testified, I think,
for nine days.
674
00:36:47,123 --> 00:36:50,251
Thornburgh: He had intimate
knowledge that was corroborated
675
00:36:50,377 --> 00:36:55,256
by the actual tapes that
were taken of conversations.
676
00:36:55,382 --> 00:36:58,301
Papa: Sammy Gravano knew
what was going on.
677
00:36:58,385 --> 00:37:00,303
He knew the people involved.
678
00:37:00,387 --> 00:37:02,889
He knew the people
that were murdered.
679
00:37:02,972 --> 00:37:06,851
Man:
Gravano also testified about how
he was inducted into the Mafia,
680
00:37:06,935 --> 00:37:09,729
how then-godfather
Paul Castellano told him that
681
00:37:09,813 --> 00:37:12,649
if he should ever break
the Mafia's code of silence,
682
00:37:12,732 --> 00:37:14,567
his soul would burn.
683
00:37:14,651 --> 00:37:16,444
As Gravano testified to this,
684
00:37:16,569 --> 00:37:19,739
John Gotti looked at him
and smiled.
685
00:37:19,864 --> 00:37:22,492
Papa: Gravano was not
going to be unnerved,
686
00:37:22,575 --> 00:37:23,702
and he wasn't.
687
00:37:23,785 --> 00:37:26,454
He was an excellent witness.
688
00:37:26,579 --> 00:37:30,125
Gravano really was
the cement for the case.
689
00:37:30,250 --> 00:37:34,337
♪♪
690
00:37:34,421 --> 00:37:36,631
Man: The jury surprised
just about everyone
691
00:37:36,756 --> 00:37:38,425
with the speed
of its deliberation --
692
00:37:38,508 --> 00:37:39,843
about a day and a half.
693
00:37:39,926 --> 00:37:41,511
John Gotti has been found guilty
694
00:37:41,594 --> 00:37:44,597
and will face life in prison.
695
00:37:44,681 --> 00:37:49,269
Papa: He was found guilty
of everything, and it was over.
696
00:37:49,394 --> 00:37:52,313
Feldman: This was the first time
in his career
697
00:37:52,439 --> 00:37:56,943
as a Mafia boss that Gotti
had been found guilty.
698
00:37:57,027 --> 00:38:00,280
Cardinale:
Five of those counts were
murder and aid of racketeering
699
00:38:00,363 --> 00:38:04,367
that carried mandatory
life-imprisonment sentences.
700
00:38:04,451 --> 00:38:06,286
The Teflon is gone.
701
00:38:06,411 --> 00:38:08,038
The don is covered with Velcro,
702
00:38:08,121 --> 00:38:12,625
and every charge
in the indictment stuck.
703
00:38:12,751 --> 00:38:15,045
Schumacher: Gotti was sent
to a maximum-security
704
00:38:15,128 --> 00:38:18,131
federal penitentiary
in Marion, Illinois.
705
00:38:18,256 --> 00:38:22,427
And not only that,
he was placed in, essentially --
706
00:38:22,510 --> 00:38:28,099
23 hours a day,
he was in solitary confinement.
707
00:38:28,183 --> 00:38:30,393
Papa:
It was over for John Gotti.
708
00:38:30,477 --> 00:38:36,191
He was in one of the most
punitive prisons in the country.
709
00:38:36,316 --> 00:38:39,152
The "New York Daily News"
said, in August,
710
00:38:39,277 --> 00:38:41,863
believes John Gotti is still
leading a crime family
711
00:38:41,988 --> 00:38:43,156
from prison.
712
00:38:43,281 --> 00:38:45,408
Under his conditions,
that's quite a feat.
713
00:38:45,492 --> 00:38:47,202
Which is what?
He's in behind --
714
00:38:47,327 --> 00:38:50,622
He is in 23-1/2-hour
lockup in Marion,
715
00:38:50,705 --> 00:38:53,708
which is a
super-maximum-security facility,
716
00:38:53,833 --> 00:38:57,253
and there's no communication
other than
717
00:38:57,337 --> 00:39:00,590
with an immediate family member
once or twice a month.
718
00:39:00,674 --> 00:39:04,511
♪♪
719
00:39:04,594 --> 00:39:06,429
Feldman:
For a long period of time,
720
00:39:06,513 --> 00:39:08,932
the name John Gotti actually
kind of disappeared
721
00:39:09,015 --> 00:39:13,353
from the public's consciousness
because he was behind bars.
722
00:39:13,478 --> 00:39:14,854
But it was known
that he was ill.
723
00:39:14,979 --> 00:39:18,900
It was known that he was
suffering from throat cancer.
724
00:39:19,025 --> 00:39:23,154
And then, ultimately,
on June 10, 2002,
725
00:39:23,238 --> 00:39:26,199
he succumbed to the cancer.
726
00:39:26,324 --> 00:39:30,245
Man:
Family, friends, and associates
gathered to give John Gotti,
727
00:39:30,370 --> 00:39:33,081
a man convicted of murder
and racketeering,
728
00:39:33,206 --> 00:39:34,541
a hero's send-off.
729
00:39:34,666 --> 00:39:37,210
The procession of vehicles,
led by limousines
730
00:39:37,293 --> 00:39:39,713
bearing elaborate
flower arrangements,
731
00:39:39,796 --> 00:39:41,214
stopped at Gotti's home,
732
00:39:41,339 --> 00:39:43,717
where more people
gathered for a glimpse
733
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,051
and to pay respect.
734
00:39:45,135 --> 00:39:50,932
♪♪
735
00:39:51,057 --> 00:39:52,892
Gabriel: For all the fanfare
with John Gotti,
736
00:39:52,976 --> 00:39:55,645
he was the least-effective
boss that ever existed.
737
00:39:55,729 --> 00:40:00,358
Raab: The truth about Gotti was,
he was an incompetent,
738
00:40:00,442 --> 00:40:03,528
almost imbecilic mob leader.
739
00:40:03,611 --> 00:40:08,992
He came in deciding that he was
going to remake the Mafia.
740
00:40:09,075 --> 00:40:13,747
Instead, he became
a whirlwind for disaster.
741
00:40:13,830 --> 00:40:15,915
Papa: The Gambino crime family
continued on
742
00:40:15,999 --> 00:40:18,084
but, I would say,
in a more crippled state.
743
00:40:18,168 --> 00:40:20,795
We took the unions away
because of his conviction,
744
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,131
which weakened
all the other families.
745
00:40:23,256 --> 00:40:25,592
Feldman: And after John Gotti's
conviction
746
00:40:25,717 --> 00:40:28,595
and after the turning
of Gravano,
747
00:40:28,678 --> 00:40:31,264
more mob members
started turning
748
00:40:31,348 --> 00:40:35,060
and became witnesses
in various cases
749
00:40:35,143 --> 00:40:38,063
for the federal government.
750
00:40:38,146 --> 00:40:39,689
Gabriel: John Gotti is the boss
751
00:40:39,773 --> 00:40:42,275
that brought
the whole Mafia down.
752
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,651
He brought the attention to it,
753
00:40:43,777 --> 00:40:45,570
thinking that he was
untouchable.
754
00:40:45,653 --> 00:40:48,823
It's that kind of arrogance
that ruins empires.
755
00:40:48,948 --> 00:40:52,160
John Gotti wasn't Robin Hood.
756
00:40:52,285 --> 00:40:54,079
He was a murderer.
757
00:40:57,248 --> 00:41:01,252
Raab: Perhaps what sums
him up best, in some respects,
758
00:41:01,336 --> 00:41:04,464
he was talking to one
of his daughters, Victoria,
759
00:41:04,589 --> 00:41:08,259
about his life and how wonderful
he was and how,
760
00:41:08,343 --> 00:41:12,097
because of him, the Gambino
family would be so strong.
761
00:41:12,180 --> 00:41:13,473
And he tells his daughter,
762
00:41:13,598 --> 00:41:18,103
"You will never see
another guy like me
763
00:41:18,186 --> 00:41:22,691
if you live to be
5,000 years old."
764
00:41:22,816 --> 00:41:23,983
Can you believe this?
765
00:41:24,067 --> 00:41:26,569
This is what he tells
his daughter,
766
00:41:26,653 --> 00:41:28,822
while he's almost
rotting in prison.
767
00:41:28,947 --> 00:41:36,788
♪♪
768
00:41:36,871 --> 00:41:40,458
♪♪
769
00:41:40,542 --> 00:41:44,587
John Gotti, inmate 182-053,
770
00:41:44,671 --> 00:41:48,049
lived nearly a decade
in prison before passing away.
771
00:41:48,174 --> 00:41:50,301
The Brooklyn Catholic
diocese denied him
772
00:41:50,385 --> 00:41:52,345
the honor of a funeral mass,
773
00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:54,973
but his family went forward
with a burial,
774
00:41:55,056 --> 00:41:57,308
laying him to rest
in a gold casket.
775
00:41:57,392 --> 00:42:00,437
He is entombed in a mausoleum
in Queens, New York,
776
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,732
directly beside
his beloved son, Frankie.
777
00:42:03,857 --> 00:42:06,735
I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
Thanks for watching.
778
00:42:06,860 --> 00:42:08,319
Good night.
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