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Gravano: I'm loyal to anybody.
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Unless you [bleep] with me or
betray me or do something crazy,
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then I could become
your worst nightmare.
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And I admit it.
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I want to eat you alive.
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Welcome to "Very Scary People."
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I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
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Sammy "The Bull" Gravano
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was one of America's
most feared mobsters.
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He was also the highest-ranking
crime family member in New York
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to turn government witness.
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In 1992, he testified against
his former boss, John Gotti,
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and spilled secrets of his life
in organized crime.
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Sounded like a thriller
straight out of the movies,
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but Gravano lived the life
and lived to tell.
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He calls himself a loyal soldier
who believed in the brotherhood.
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But, to many, he is nothing more
than a cunning,
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cold-blooded murderer.
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This is Sammy the Bull.
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Destefano: There's an old saying
in the Mafia,
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that only a friend can hurt you.
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Gravano:
Joe Colucci was a bricklayer.
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He was a hunter, a tough guy.
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I really liked him.
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Schumacher: Gravano and Colucci
were friends.
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They worked well together.
They respected each other.
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Joe Colucci was actually
part of a crew
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within the Colombo crime family.
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Colucci: One of my mother's
friends used to call him
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the male Elizabeth Taylor.
[ Laughs ]
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That he was so handsome,
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he was so --
and beautiful,
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with his black hair
and blue eyes.
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He was a great father.
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He loved his kids to death.
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Gravano:
One night, we went out drinking.
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We went to an after-hour club.
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It was about four o'clock
in the morning.
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Destefano: They get Colucci
to go out with them,
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carouse around,
drinking in clubs
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and hitting various nightspots.
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They get in a car,
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and Colucci doesn't want
anybody sitting behind him,
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so he sits in the backseat.
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And at some point
as the night works on,
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Colucci gets his guard down
and sits in the front seat.
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Hunter:
The Beatles were on the radio.
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Sammy's sitting, you know,
catty corner from him.
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Gravano:
The car took off.
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The windows were rolled up.
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I went in my waistband
and pulled out a .38.
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I put the gun to the back of his
head, and I pulled the trigger.
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And then they ultimately
dump the body,
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and at that point, Sammy fires,
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he said, a few more shots
into the body.
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This is his first hit.
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Gravano:
The order came down to kill him.
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When it comes from the top
and you have to do it,
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that's part
of the code of the Mafia.
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If you refuse,
you can be killed.
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In most cases, you will be.
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Destefano:
Sammy felt good about it --
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good in a strange way,
because he felt empowered.
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He didn't feel remorse.
He didn't feel sad.
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He said afterwards, "The easiest
thing was pulling the trigger."
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Gabriel: Sammy's first murder
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was a little bit of
an awakening.
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He wasn't as bothered by it as
he probably thought he might be.
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I slept like a baby
the entire night.
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Why don't I feel guilt, remorse?
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Why don't I feel anything?
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I did feel something.
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I thought I had power
over life and death.
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I know one thing --
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that night I became
a professional killer.
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Destefano: Sammy Gravano grew up
in Bensonhurst,
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and that was
an Italian-American enclave
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for New York City
at that time.
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Colucci:
Everybody was friends.
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Like, if somebody got married,
everybody went to the wedding.
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If somebody died,
everybody went to the funeral.
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Hunter: Anyone who's seen
the movie "Goodfellas,"
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that will give you
a pretty good idea of the world
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that Sammy Gravano
grew up in.
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Where'd you get
those cigarettes?
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It's all right.
Get him out of here.
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It was the neighborhood
in Brooklyn -- Italian,
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working class, tight-knit,
where everybody knew everybody,
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and among the people
that everybody knew
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was mobsters
in the neighborhood.
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Sammy related that his early
impression from his father
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was that these were bad people
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and that they were really
to be avoided.
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His father told him,
"Look. There's these guys
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in the neighborhood.
They're bad guys,
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but they're our bad guys."
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Destefano: Of course,
that created an extra aura
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or attraction to a young guy
growing up in Bensonhurst.
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These were people who had
some stature in the community.
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They were powerful,
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they had influence, and you
didn't want to cross their path.
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Hunter: Now, Sammy's parents,
Kay and Gerry,
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they were complete
straight arrows.
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They owned a dress factory,
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and Sammy worked for them,
and he adored them.
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Destefano:
Sammy had trouble in school
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because it turned out
he was dyslexic
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and, at that point,
wasn't diagnosed,
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and he became the butt of jokes
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because of his seemingly
slow learning ability.
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Hunter: He was treated like he
was some kind of dummy,
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and the other kids would laugh,
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and he'd start hitting them
outside in the school yard
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because he was humiliated.
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Destefano: So, at an early age,
he was known to be able
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to defend himself
and wasn't shy
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about getting into fist fights.
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Papa:
He was also smaller in stature.
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And I think, to overcompensate,
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he probably had to learn
to be a tough guy.
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Hunter:
When he was 10 years old,
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his parents got him a bike
for his 10th birthday,
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and these kids stole it,
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and he eventually
tracked them down.
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They were a few years older.
They were bigger.
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And across from the local bar
where a lot of these wise guys
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hung out, he confronted
these guys and he went wild.
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He was getting beat up,
but he kept on slugging at them.
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Destefano:
Sammy was quick with his fists
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and was able to do a number
on the thieves.
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Hunter:
Until the wise guys came over
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and told these guys,
"This is his bike.
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You kids take off."
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And one of the guys said,
"Oh, look at Sammy.
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What a little bull."
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And that's how the name
supposedly started.
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McShane: He couldn't find a home
in the classroom,
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but he found a home
on the streets.
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Hunter: Sammy saw the heft the
local wise guys actually had --
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that they could
make problems go away.
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A lot of people will tell you
that in old New York,
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you know, if you got
a mob neighborhood,
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you didn't have to worry
about grandma
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getting hit over the head
getting off the bus.
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It was a very ordered world.
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Destefano: Sammy ultimately
joined a group
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called the Rampers.
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They were low-level, unofficial
wise guys in the neighborhood
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who could carry out robberies,
heists,
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break-ins, among other things.
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That made them an unofficial
secondary farm team
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for organized crime.
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Hunter:
The Rampers did spot talent.
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If a kid kept his mouth shut,
knew what he was doing,
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showed a certain amount
of respect,
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there might be a chance
to sort of move up to the bigs.
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And Shorty Sparrow,
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who is a member of the Colombo
crime family, saw this in Sammy.
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He says, "Listen. I hear
a lot of good things about you.
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I know a lot of things
about you.
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You're going to get killed."
He said,
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"You're too [bleep] tough.
You don't want to listen.
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You've got to hook up
with people.
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I would like you to be with me.
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I will never lie to you.
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I will never backstab.
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Whatever I ask you to do,
I already did."
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It was music to my ear.
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He was being recognized
for something
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that he could do and do well.
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The attraction for Sammy Gravano
was just the fact
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that he wanted
to make something of himself.
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There was sort of power
and swagger and money.
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Schumacher: Gravano,
he's a young guy.
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This is his first hit.
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When Gravano woke up the next
morning and he was
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in an apartment
and there was a lot of commotion
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about the murder of Joe Colucci.
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People coming in, girls, guys.
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"Oh, my God. Joe Colucci
was killed last night.
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It's in the newspapers."
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And I said, "Did they catch
who did it?"
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It was early morning,
and I was feeding my daughter,
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and the bell rang, and it was
detectives to come and tell me
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that they found my brother's
body and that he was shot.
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It was devastating.
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It was horrible.
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He was my big brother.
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He was my best friend.
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And then the next thing
you know,
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Tommy and Sammy showed up
at our house
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that day
that the detectives came,
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that they "found out
that Joey got murdered."
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"We're going to find out
who did this to him,"
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and hugging everybody,
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and they're going to work along
with the cops
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and help them try to find out
what happened to Joey.
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Brevetti: And that takes
a certain type of person
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to do that, right?
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So this is the warped mind
of people who were in the life.
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Destefano: Cosa Nostra is the
American version of the Mafia,
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which is --
originates in Italy and Sicily.
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To be considered for membership,
you have to show
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that you're capable of killing
for the family
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or making a lot of money
for the family.
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If you have either or both of
those two things going for you
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and politically, you know,
you play the game,
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you'll be considered
for membership.
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According to Sammy, they had
a meeting with Carmine Persico,
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and others in the Colombo
crime family about
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the Colucci homicide,
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and they were questioned
about how this went down.
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And after they gave
their summary,
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Persico indicated that you know,
Sammy had done a good job.
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That put him on the radar
of the top people
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in the crime family
in a big way.
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Gabriel: As an associate,
it's a good sign
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because you've done
the one thing
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you need to convince everybody
you could do to become a member,
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so that elevates your status.
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It engenders you with the boss.
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It's not just how you did it,
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but how you conducted yourself
afterwards.
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It all speaks
to his mafia character,
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and they see the kinda traits
they really like in a guy.
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Destefano: If you can kill,
it takes a certain person
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to do that,
you know, dispassionately,
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professionally,
with no deep remorse.
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That's a valuable commodity
in organized crime.
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In the late '20s, early '30s,
there was a big war in which,
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when all was said and done,
five families emerged,
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and those are the five families
that are still there today.
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They were the Genovese, Gambino,
Lucchese, Banano,
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and Colombo crime families.
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The Gambino family at the time
was probably the most powerful
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and largest organized
crime family.
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Destefano: After Carlo Gambino
died in about 1976,
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the leadership of the crime
family went to Paul Castellano.
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Castellano
was of a different cut.
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He was not a street gangster.
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He was a businessman who had
successful poultry businesses,
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meat businesses.
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So Sammy early on gets
very tightly aligned
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to Frankie DeCicco.
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Brevetti: Frankie DeCicco
was a capo -- a big earner.
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Very, very influential.
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Gabriel:
Very close to Paul Castellano.
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So, as Sammy is getting closer
to Frankie,
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he's brought
into that circle.
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Sammy also began to gravitate
to the construction business.
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Raab: And he was very good in
drywall and excavation,
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and he started
his own companies.
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Gabriel: Paul was earning
a lot of money
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through Sammy's involvement
in the construction stuff,
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and he kept Sammy close
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because that was big dollars
coming to Paul.
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So Sammy had access to the boss,
which not every soldier does.
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About 1976, Sammy is inducted
in a very secret location,
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and it's the proudest day
of his life.
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To be invited to be a member
of the Mafia or Cosa Nostra
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was really the pinnacle
of achievement
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for that kind of life.
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Hunter: He went into a basement
of a house
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in Bensonhurst, Brooklyn,
and he was called.
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It was his turn.
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Gabriel: So, guys like Sammy,
from the minute
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they start
their criminal activity,
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their goal, their aspiration --
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it's more than a kid's dream
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who wants to be
an astronaut, right?
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They just admire the life
around the mobster
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that they've grown up
seeing on the street.
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Papa: He's introduced to the
various people sitting there.
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At the head of the table was
Gambino boss Paul Castellano.
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Destefano: You're asked if you
know why you're there,
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and you have to lie and say "No,
I don't know why I'm there."
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Hunter: And he was told it
was an honored society,
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it was a secret society,
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and that family came
before his own family
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and anything else in his life.
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McShane: Castellano told him
there is no God anymore for you.
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We are your God.
The family is your God.
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Papa: And what they do
is they bring a holy card.
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They prick your finger,
and you have to take an oath
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that you swear to be
loyal to the family.
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The blood runs onto the
holy card and you vow omertà,
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which means that you will
never speak
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against anybody in the family.
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You will not cooperate
with law enforcement.
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They burn a picture of a saint
in your hands.
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That signified that,
if he betrayed the organization,
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that the saint burning
represented his soul burning.
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And then you're given code
of conduct.
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You're told the rules.
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Hunter: He took it very, very,
very serious.
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He believed 1,000%
in La Casa Nostra.
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Sammy met,
almost by happenstance,
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Debbie Scibetta.
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She was a sweet kid and really
didn't know much
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about the life on the street.
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She wasn't connected to it
in any way.
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He clearly adores her.
You get the sense
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that he has always been
able to rely upon her.
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Destefano:
Sammy ultimately proposed
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and they marry in April of 1971.
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Sammy and Debbie had two kids.
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There was Karen and Gerard.
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And Debbie was very devout
and devoted to the family,
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and Sammy was out there
earning money any way he could.
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Hunter:
She has understood his life,
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which isn't always
easiest thing to understand.
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I think that he has also drew
two lines between his life.
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There was the life
as a gangster,
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and then there was the life
as daddy and hubby.
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Brevetti: Sammy's ability
to compartmentalize
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and rationalize
has no limit.
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He was a master of deception.
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He was very good at it.
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Brevetti:
Sammy took an oath that said,
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"Our family
comes before your family."
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♪♪
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And he swore to that.
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And, of course, that became
the conundrum
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or the problem
that Gravano faced.
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Nick Scibetta
was his wife's brother.
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Gabriel: He was probably
a half of an associate.
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He actually hung around,
thanks to the reputation
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of his brother-in-law,
Sammy, and enjoyed privileges
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that he otherwise
would not have enjoyed.
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So Scibetta's around
a lot of wise guys,
347
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and he becomes a drug addict.
348
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He becomes a cocaine head.
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And he was becoming
a nuisance -- flamboyant,
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bringing attention to himself.
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Grabiel: And word makes it
to Paul's ears,
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which is never a good thing.
353
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The concern obviously is
he's been around so many guys
354
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and conversations potentially --
he gets pinched
355
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and is strung out,
he could say stupid things.
356
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They were worried he could
be talking or leaking
357
00:17:10,780 --> 00:17:14,701
or that he'd be vulnerable
to an investigation.
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So Castellano authorized
the hit on Nicholas Scibetta.
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And so Sammy can't do
anything about it.
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He knew that if he had warned
Nick Scibetta
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what was about to happen,
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it would end up with a bullet
behind the ear
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for Sammy as well.
364
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And so he understood
that this kid had to go.
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Destefano: He made that choice
and that became his code,
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and he was gonna live it.
367
00:17:43,104 --> 00:17:49,069
In the end, he went with the mob
family over his wife's family.
368
00:17:49,152 --> 00:17:56,368
And they take Nick Scibetta
for a ride, and he is murdered.
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Sammy says that his involvement
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was that
he allowed it to happen.
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Gabriel:
And to make matters worse,
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the guys chopped up his body,
put it in garbage bags,
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and scattered it in different
garbage disposals
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around Brooklyn.
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00:18:15,845 --> 00:18:17,764
A dog was being walked
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00:18:17,847 --> 00:18:20,266
and came across
one of the body parts,
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pulled it out of the garbage,
378
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and they eventually identify him
as Nick Scibetta.
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The only thing that
was recovered was his hand,
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and they knew from a ring
on his hand that it was him.
381
00:18:30,860 --> 00:18:32,904
Gabriel: News gets out,
obviously, to Debbie.
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She's distraught as all can be,
383
00:18:34,656 --> 00:18:38,410
and, of course, now Sammy's
got to play the loving husband.
384
00:18:38,493 --> 00:18:41,079
"We're going to look into this.
We'll get whoever did this.
385
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Can't imagine what happened."
386
00:18:43,581 --> 00:18:46,418
Sammy Gravano knew
how to play the part.
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So you go to the wake.
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You go to the funeral,
and you play the part.
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And Sammy Gravano knew
how to do that job.
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♪♪
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Brevetti: Organized crime,
its purpose was only one,
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and that was to make money --
393
00:19:04,686 --> 00:19:08,481
to make money in the easiest
possible way.
394
00:19:08,606 --> 00:19:11,401
Papa: La Cosa Nostra was
big business in New York City.
395
00:19:11,484 --> 00:19:15,947
You were doing it illegally,
but it was big business.
396
00:19:16,031 --> 00:19:19,409
The Concrete Club is probably
the best example of that.
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Gabriel: The Gambino family
as well as the Genovese
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and Colombo family
collectively controlled
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just about every union
in New York.
400
00:19:28,209 --> 00:19:32,213
So, in essence, they earned off
of every yard of cement
401
00:19:32,339 --> 00:19:34,132
that got poured in Manhattan.
402
00:19:34,215 --> 00:19:37,677
And for those who have been to
Manhattan, it's a lot of cement.
403
00:19:37,761 --> 00:19:39,888
McShane: The mob families were
all getting a piece
404
00:19:40,013 --> 00:19:46,311
of every concrete-pouring
contract over $2 million.
405
00:19:46,394 --> 00:19:48,355
I believe they got 2% of that.
406
00:19:48,438 --> 00:19:50,190
That's a lot of money.
407
00:19:50,315 --> 00:19:52,442
Bottom line is, the economy
of Manhattan
408
00:19:52,525 --> 00:19:55,779
was controlled by the mob.
409
00:19:55,862 --> 00:19:58,323
Papa: Sammy Gravano on his own
was making a lot of money
410
00:19:58,406 --> 00:20:00,075
in the construction industry.
411
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,119
He actually amassed
many companies,
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00:20:03,203 --> 00:20:05,580
and he was friendly with people.
413
00:20:05,705 --> 00:20:07,415
He would, you know,
befriend somebody.
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00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:09,376
They went into
business together.
415
00:20:09,459 --> 00:20:11,252
Destefano: He was a guy who was,
to some extent,
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00:20:11,378 --> 00:20:12,545
reasonable to talk to,
417
00:20:12,629 --> 00:20:14,547
so he had the best
of both worlds.
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00:20:14,631 --> 00:20:16,299
He could be a diplomat.
419
00:20:16,383 --> 00:20:18,385
He could also be a tough guy
and a killer.
420
00:20:18,468 --> 00:20:22,263
Gravano: I was making $45,000
a week in cash
421
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plus these
legitimate businesses.
422
00:20:25,475 --> 00:20:28,770
So my money was astronomical,
myself.
423
00:20:28,895 --> 00:20:33,233
I could only imagine what
Paul Castellano were making.
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The money was enormous.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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Welcome back
to "Very Scary People."
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By the mid-1970s,
Sammy Gravano
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became a made man
in La Cosa Nostra
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00:20:54,129 --> 00:20:58,008
and pledged loyalty to the
crime family above all else.
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00:20:58,091 --> 00:21:00,677
Now he had his own crew,
a team of men who helped him
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00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,013
carry out
whatever the boss demanded,
433
00:21:03,096 --> 00:21:05,348
without question or hesitation,
434
00:21:05,432 --> 00:21:08,059
even if it meant
killing family and friends.
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Sammy would often leave
the actual killing to others,
436
00:21:11,521 --> 00:21:15,025
but he was the one to plan it
with ruthless precision.
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00:21:15,108 --> 00:21:21,197
♪♪
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McShane: In 1980, the head of
the Philadelphia mob,
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00:21:23,950 --> 00:21:27,328
Angelo Bruno, who was known
as The Docile Don,
440
00:21:27,454 --> 00:21:30,331
is executed -- shotgun --
outside his home.
441
00:21:30,457 --> 00:21:34,085
And this sets off
a huge shockwave
442
00:21:34,169 --> 00:21:37,756
that went all the way up to
the five families in New York.
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00:21:37,839 --> 00:21:40,800
Hunter: Philadelphia
splits into two factions.
444
00:21:40,925 --> 00:21:45,513
One is Nicky Scarfo,
one of the underbosses,
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and the other
is by Johnny Keys.
446
00:21:49,225 --> 00:21:52,062
Gabriel: Johnny "Keys" Simone
was a prominent member
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00:21:52,145 --> 00:21:53,521
in the Philadelphia family
448
00:21:53,646 --> 00:21:56,691
that's looking to get
control of the family.
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00:21:56,816 --> 00:21:59,152
Hunter: So they're fighting
in Philadelphia
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00:21:59,235 --> 00:22:03,615
and Commission, the ruling body
of organized crime,
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00:22:03,698 --> 00:22:05,658
decides that Johnny Keys
has to go.
452
00:22:05,742 --> 00:22:07,911
They're going to back
Nicky Scarfo
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00:22:07,994 --> 00:22:11,039
as the new boss in Philly.
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Gabriel: So Paul calls Sammy in
and gives him the hit.
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This, for Paul Castellano,
is a high-visibility hit
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because they're taking out
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00:22:21,508 --> 00:22:24,344
a significant person
of another family,
458
00:22:24,469 --> 00:22:27,347
and other bosses know
this is all happening,
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00:22:27,472 --> 00:22:28,890
so it can't go wrong.
460
00:22:29,015 --> 00:22:31,184
So the fact that they give that
to Sammy says something.
461
00:22:31,267 --> 00:22:33,895
It shows you how much
you respected this guy,
462
00:22:34,020 --> 00:22:35,563
trusted this guy.
463
00:22:35,689 --> 00:22:38,733
Hunter: Now, Johnny Keys
is a very smart man,
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00:22:38,858 --> 00:22:42,195
longtime mobster,
and very cautious.
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00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,947
Gabriel: Basically, Paul was
going to have Sammy
466
00:22:44,030 --> 00:22:46,324
send word down to say,
"Hey, listen.
467
00:22:46,408 --> 00:22:48,410
Paul's willing to back you.
468
00:22:48,535 --> 00:22:50,537
He thinks you're the right guy."
469
00:22:50,662 --> 00:22:54,374
Hunter: He's telling
Johnny Keys that Castellano
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is going to back him
for leadership in Philly.
471
00:22:57,544 --> 00:22:58,628
That's not the case.
472
00:22:58,712 --> 00:23:00,380
He's being set up
to be murdered.
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00:23:00,505 --> 00:23:06,594
♪♪
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Sammy's telling Johnny Keys
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00:23:08,638 --> 00:23:10,056
that he's going to meet
Castellano,
476
00:23:10,140 --> 00:23:13,560
but at a place
that Johnny Keys wants to go
477
00:23:13,685 --> 00:23:16,980
because, that way,
he will be safe.
478
00:23:17,063 --> 00:23:21,735
So they agree that they can meet
at a country club
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that Johnny Keys belongs to.
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Raab:
Gravano was persuasive enough
481
00:23:26,072 --> 00:23:29,951
that Johnny Keys agrees
to go into a car with him.
482
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Hunter: When they get to
the country club,
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00:23:31,494 --> 00:23:34,539
Johnny Keys sees
a van running,
484
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and he makes note
of it the Sammy,
485
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and that's when Sammy
grabbed him from behind,
486
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and he was taken
into the van.
487
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Raab:
Three other hoods jump in.
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They grab Johnny Keys.
489
00:23:45,175 --> 00:23:46,551
They disarm him.
490
00:23:46,634 --> 00:23:50,180
Keys knew when he got
picked up what was coming.
491
00:23:50,263 --> 00:23:53,975
Hunter: They drive him to a
remote corner of Staten Island.
492
00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:58,271
But they had to wait some time
before they could kill this guy.
493
00:23:58,355 --> 00:24:01,441
McShane: They were waiting like
10 or 12 hours for a phone call
494
00:24:01,566 --> 00:24:03,526
from somebody
to tell them what to do.
495
00:24:03,610 --> 00:24:06,488
Gabriel: So while Sammy and his
crew are waiting for word back,
496
00:24:06,613 --> 00:24:07,989
they kept filling
Johnny Keys' head with,
497
00:24:08,114 --> 00:24:10,784
"Hey, you know what?
There's meetings going on.
498
00:24:10,867 --> 00:24:12,285
The decision
hasn't really been made
499
00:24:12,369 --> 00:24:14,120
with what's gonna
happen to you."
500
00:24:14,204 --> 00:24:18,124
So, Keys knew that he's
probably getting killed,
501
00:24:18,208 --> 00:24:20,460
was hopeful
it wasn't gonna happen,
502
00:24:20,585 --> 00:24:23,797
but Sammy knew all along
it was going to.
503
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,258
But the more he gets to know
Johnny Keys,
504
00:24:27,342 --> 00:24:29,302
the more he likes him.
505
00:24:29,386 --> 00:24:31,888
Gabriel: So the guy,
as an extremely stand-up guy,
506
00:24:31,971 --> 00:24:35,266
very La Cosa Nostra,
and that kind of respect
507
00:24:35,350 --> 00:24:37,977
means more than
anything else in their world.
508
00:24:38,103 --> 00:24:41,481
McShane: In Gravano's view,
he took it like a man.
509
00:24:41,606 --> 00:24:44,025
He took it like a believer
in their life,
510
00:24:44,150 --> 00:24:47,070
and he never whimpered
or whined.
511
00:24:47,153 --> 00:24:48,697
Gabriel:
When Sammy felt comfortable,
512
00:24:48,822 --> 00:24:51,366
he gave the words, "Alright.
It's going to go."
513
00:24:51,491 --> 00:24:57,997
"John, I just -- on the call,
you lost the decision, bro."
514
00:24:58,123 --> 00:25:00,625
I got to take you out.
I'm going to treat you right,
515
00:25:00,709 --> 00:25:02,002
like a man,
right up until the last second.
516
00:25:02,085 --> 00:25:03,837
There'll be no pain.
There'll be no suffering.
517
00:25:03,962 --> 00:25:06,339
I have the utmost respect
for you.
518
00:25:06,423 --> 00:25:09,884
McShane: Gravano just was
so impressed by the way
519
00:25:10,010 --> 00:25:14,597
this guy just accepted his death
and just made two requests.
520
00:25:14,681 --> 00:25:17,851
One was that he could die
with his shoes off
521
00:25:17,934 --> 00:25:20,186
because he had always
promised his wife
522
00:25:20,311 --> 00:25:21,855
that that's how he would go.
523
00:25:21,938 --> 00:25:25,483
In other words, that he would
presumably live a long life
524
00:25:25,567 --> 00:25:28,236
and die in the comfort
of his home.
525
00:25:28,361 --> 00:25:31,239
And the second was that
he insisted he be killed
526
00:25:31,364 --> 00:25:34,451
by a made man.
527
00:25:34,534 --> 00:25:37,579
And Louie Milito was that man.
528
00:25:37,704 --> 00:25:40,165
Gravano: Louie Milito
with a .357 Magnum,
529
00:25:40,248 --> 00:25:41,833
he hit him in the head.
530
00:25:41,916 --> 00:25:43,710
Everybody gets in the van.
531
00:25:43,835 --> 00:25:45,378
We're all sick.
532
00:25:45,503 --> 00:25:49,215
We killed the epitome
of our life.
533
00:25:49,299 --> 00:25:51,426
Gabriel: Sammy had remorse
after this hit.
534
00:25:51,551 --> 00:25:53,553
Johnny Keys wasn't
a Gambino guy --
535
00:25:53,678 --> 00:25:55,055
not part of
a Gambino beef, right?
536
00:25:55,180 --> 00:25:58,725
And then spending hours,
literally, with the guy
537
00:25:58,850 --> 00:26:01,478
before they killed him
and seeing how the guy behaved,
538
00:26:01,561 --> 00:26:03,480
the kind of wise guy
he really was,
539
00:26:03,563 --> 00:26:06,399
it bothered Sammy that they had
to take this guy out.
540
00:26:06,483 --> 00:26:09,069
♪♪
541
00:26:09,194 --> 00:26:10,653
These are very,
very dangerous people --
542
00:26:10,737 --> 00:26:12,030
some of the most
dangerous people
543
00:26:12,113 --> 00:26:13,990
we've ever encountered
in law enforcement.
544
00:26:14,074 --> 00:26:17,660
The FBI really got serious
about cracking down
545
00:26:17,744 --> 00:26:20,080
on the Mafia
in the '70s and '80s.
546
00:26:20,205 --> 00:26:23,750
It was a very aggressive effort
on the part of the FBI
547
00:26:23,833 --> 00:26:26,753
using surveillance techniques,
wiretaps, bugs.
548
00:26:26,878 --> 00:26:30,006
McShane: The FBI decided
to create five squads,
549
00:26:30,090 --> 00:26:32,133
one for each of
the five families,
550
00:26:32,258 --> 00:26:34,219
to follow them
and see what they could do
551
00:26:34,302 --> 00:26:38,890
as far as putting together
prosecutions against them.
552
00:26:38,973 --> 00:26:41,059
The FBI's embrace of technology,
553
00:26:41,142 --> 00:26:44,688
combined with its formation
of these specific squads,
554
00:26:44,771 --> 00:26:48,149
was a real two-fisted shot
at the mob.
555
00:26:48,274 --> 00:26:49,943
Brevetti:
I didn't know the kind of impact
556
00:26:50,068 --> 00:26:52,904
it would have
in Costa Nostra circles.
557
00:26:52,987 --> 00:26:54,447
I knew it'd be a problem
for them,
558
00:26:54,531 --> 00:26:57,617
but I didn't realize
how big of a problem it was.
559
00:26:57,701 --> 00:27:01,996
♪♪
560
00:27:03,790 --> 00:27:09,170
♪♪
561
00:27:09,295 --> 00:27:12,632
Gabriel: Sammy had ownership
of a very successful disco
562
00:27:12,757 --> 00:27:14,926
in Brooklyn, and this guy,
Frank Fiala
563
00:27:15,010 --> 00:27:16,803
comes out of nowhere.
564
00:27:16,886 --> 00:27:19,431
He was Eastern European,
a lot of money,
565
00:27:19,514 --> 00:27:21,016
in the drug business.
566
00:27:21,141 --> 00:27:25,562
Frank Fiala had rented out
Sammy's club, The Plaza Suite.
567
00:27:25,645 --> 00:27:27,063
They clash a bit.
568
00:27:27,147 --> 00:27:29,983
Sammy finds the guy to be
a bit of a pain in the neck.
569
00:27:30,108 --> 00:27:34,612
In Sammy's world,
it's respect, right?
570
00:27:34,696 --> 00:27:36,865
And when you don't show
that respect,
571
00:27:36,990 --> 00:27:39,492
that's a very personal affront.
572
00:27:39,617 --> 00:27:42,996
And this guy Fiala
didn't get that or didn't care.
573
00:27:43,121 --> 00:27:46,499
Hunter: Fiala decides he likes
The Plaza Suite so much
574
00:27:46,583 --> 00:27:48,168
that he wants to buy it.
575
00:27:48,293 --> 00:27:51,171
He offers Sammy
a million bucks for it.
576
00:27:51,254 --> 00:27:53,423
Gabriel:
So they negotiate the deal.
577
00:27:53,506 --> 00:27:55,925
McShane: But Sammy is just
getting more and more aggravated
578
00:27:56,009 --> 00:27:59,054
by this guy,
and, finally --
579
00:27:59,179 --> 00:28:01,514
this is before
the club has been sold --
580
00:28:01,598 --> 00:28:05,685
Sammy shows up and Fiala's
sitting in his office.
581
00:28:05,810 --> 00:28:07,228
He's acting like
he owns the place.
582
00:28:07,354 --> 00:28:10,857
He's mistreating people,
his feet up on Sammy's desk,
583
00:28:10,982 --> 00:28:14,027
and acting like, "This is mine.
What are you doing here?
584
00:28:14,152 --> 00:28:15,028
Get out."
585
00:28:15,153 --> 00:28:17,197
And this just enrages Sammy.
586
00:28:17,322 --> 00:28:20,825
Not only that,
he opens an attaché case.
587
00:28:20,909 --> 00:28:24,037
Inside the attaché case
is a submachine gun.
588
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:28,333
Hunter: Fiala starts pointing an
Uzi submachine gun at Gravano.
589
00:28:28,416 --> 00:28:31,419
Now, this sends Sammy
through the roof.
590
00:28:31,544 --> 00:28:33,797
Sammy leaves and basically,
at that point,
591
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,383
decided this guy is going.
592
00:28:36,508 --> 00:28:46,226
♪♪
593
00:28:46,309 --> 00:28:48,728
Hunter: Sammy calls out,
"Frank, turn around,"
594
00:28:48,853 --> 00:28:51,398
out on the street
outside of The Plaza.
595
00:28:51,523 --> 00:28:54,401
That's when Louie Milito
shoots him once in each eye.
596
00:28:54,526 --> 00:28:55,777
[ Gunshots ]
597
00:28:55,902 --> 00:29:00,156
And Sammy spits on his body
for good measure.
598
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,908
Reporter: The shooting took
place outside a disco
599
00:29:02,033 --> 00:29:05,745
at 86th Street
and McDonald Avenue in Brooklyn.
600
00:29:05,870 --> 00:29:08,164
McShane:
It was an unsanctioned hit,
601
00:29:08,248 --> 00:29:10,375
which is a violation
of mob policy.
602
00:29:10,458 --> 00:29:11,793
Gabriel: If you're going to kill
somebody,
603
00:29:11,918 --> 00:29:14,379
the boss has got to know
what's happening,
604
00:29:14,462 --> 00:29:17,382
but Sammy never went to the boss
to get permission.
605
00:29:17,465 --> 00:29:20,760
Word kind of gets back to
Paul Castellano what happened,
606
00:29:20,885 --> 00:29:23,638
and Sammy's petrified
because, by rights,
607
00:29:23,763 --> 00:29:25,265
Paul should take him out.
608
00:29:25,348 --> 00:29:29,853
Hunter: But Sammy, ever the
smooth talker and mob politician
609
00:29:29,936 --> 00:29:33,648
that he is,
talks himself out of trouble.
610
00:29:33,773 --> 00:29:37,110
♪♪
611
00:29:37,235 --> 00:29:39,779
Gabriel: So the Gambino family,
from the day Paul Castellano
612
00:29:39,904 --> 00:29:42,490
was given the position of boss,
613
00:29:42,615 --> 00:29:45,243
there were a lot of disgruntled
people.
614
00:29:45,326 --> 00:29:48,705
Paul was considered
a white collar wise guy.
615
00:29:48,788 --> 00:29:52,208
Paul dressed in a suit to go
to work and portray himself
616
00:29:52,292 --> 00:29:53,418
as a businessman.
617
00:29:53,501 --> 00:29:56,338
But Paul was respected because,
as the boss,
618
00:29:56,463 --> 00:30:00,091
he had to be respected,
not because they liked them.
619
00:30:00,175 --> 00:30:05,055
Paul Castellano
was called the Pope.
620
00:30:05,138 --> 00:30:07,474
He had a regal bearing.
621
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:10,852
He lived in this huge house
on Staten Island.
622
00:30:10,977 --> 00:30:12,479
They called it the White House.
623
00:30:12,604 --> 00:30:14,981
He's got a legitimate business,
the poultry business.
624
00:30:15,106 --> 00:30:17,484
And there's a feeling
among the rank and file
625
00:30:17,609 --> 00:30:20,570
that he's kind of
out of touch with them.
626
00:30:20,653 --> 00:30:24,491
Destefano: He looked down upon
the blue collar members
627
00:30:24,616 --> 00:30:25,825
of the family.
628
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:28,536
He was above the fray.
629
00:30:28,661 --> 00:30:32,582
Castellano not only was wealthy
from his legitimate businesses,
630
00:30:32,665 --> 00:30:36,878
but also was getting hand over
fist money from the rackets.
631
00:30:37,003 --> 00:30:39,047
Even members of
the other crime families
632
00:30:39,172 --> 00:30:42,175
would complain
about his greediness.
633
00:30:42,300 --> 00:30:45,011
Gabriel: Paul was all about
the money for himself.
634
00:30:45,095 --> 00:30:47,555
So, people weren't satisfied
with that.
635
00:30:47,681 --> 00:30:54,854
♪♪
636
00:30:54,979 --> 00:30:57,273
Mouw: In the summer of 1985,
637
00:30:57,357 --> 00:30:59,693
there's a big dispute
in the Gambino family.
638
00:30:59,776 --> 00:31:04,114
Gabriel: It involved the capo
by the name of John Gotti.
639
00:31:04,197 --> 00:31:06,991
McShane: Castellano, the boss,
suspected Gotti's crew
640
00:31:07,075 --> 00:31:10,161
of dealing narcotics,
particularly heroin trafficking.
641
00:31:10,245 --> 00:31:12,163
With Castellano,
that was supposed to be
642
00:31:12,247 --> 00:31:13,373
a death penalty event
643
00:31:13,498 --> 00:31:15,875
if you were caught
dealing drugs.
644
00:31:15,959 --> 00:31:18,378
Schumacher: That wasn't some
kind of moral decision that,
645
00:31:18,461 --> 00:31:19,629
oh, drugs are wrong.
646
00:31:19,713 --> 00:31:21,881
It was that drugs opened up
647
00:31:22,007 --> 00:31:23,758
the possibility
of getting caught.
648
00:31:23,883 --> 00:31:27,303
Gabriel: John Gotti at this
point was a captain in Queens,
649
00:31:27,387 --> 00:31:30,056
and his buddy,
Angelo Ruggiero,
650
00:31:30,181 --> 00:31:33,309
had taken over
his brother's heroin operations.
651
00:31:33,393 --> 00:31:36,104
Though Ruggiero's nickname
was Quack Quack,
652
00:31:36,229 --> 00:31:37,564
and part of the reason
was because
653
00:31:37,689 --> 00:31:39,649
the guy could never shut up.
654
00:31:39,733 --> 00:31:43,445
And the FBI got in,
and they bugged this house,
655
00:31:43,570 --> 00:31:48,116
and all this information
was coming out on the tapes.
656
00:31:48,241 --> 00:31:51,661
I didn't indict John, but I did
indict his crew members.
657
00:31:51,745 --> 00:31:55,790
A portion of the indictment was
regular organized crime stuff,
658
00:31:55,915 --> 00:31:59,919
but, more importantly, a larger
portion of it was narcotics.
659
00:32:00,003 --> 00:32:02,589
And so now they have
a real problem.
660
00:32:02,714 --> 00:32:05,633
McShane: The FBI was able to use
the information gleaned
661
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:08,303
from the Ruggiero bug
662
00:32:08,428 --> 00:32:12,223
to bug Paul Castellano's house
on Staten Island.
663
00:32:12,307 --> 00:32:17,604
And so this is kind of a double
faux pas by the Gotti crew
664
00:32:17,729 --> 00:32:21,358
because, one, one of their guys
has been caught discussing
665
00:32:21,441 --> 00:32:24,903
this business that they are
not allowed to conduct;
666
00:32:24,986 --> 00:32:26,738
and, two,
it allowed the prosecutors
667
00:32:26,821 --> 00:32:30,617
to get inside the house on
Staten Island and bug that too.
668
00:32:30,742 --> 00:32:33,370
Paul had an interest
in those tapes, personally,
669
00:32:33,453 --> 00:32:38,458
because he was being
prosecuted in multiple cases.
670
00:32:38,541 --> 00:32:41,961
Castellano was asking
repeatedly for the tapes,
671
00:32:42,087 --> 00:32:43,963
and if he heard the tapes,
672
00:32:44,089 --> 00:32:45,465
it would have been
perfectly clear
673
00:32:45,590 --> 00:32:48,134
that his orders
had been violated.
674
00:32:48,218 --> 00:32:52,138
Raab: And the one person that
Castellano would go after
675
00:32:52,263 --> 00:32:54,891
and probably kill
was John Gotti.
676
00:32:54,974 --> 00:32:57,477
But, instead, Gotti made
the first move.
677
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,522
♪♪
678
00:33:00,647 --> 00:33:04,025
Hunter: So they decide that
they're going to take out
679
00:33:04,150 --> 00:33:05,652
Paul Castellano,
680
00:33:05,735 --> 00:33:08,655
but things have to be in place
for this to happen.
681
00:33:08,738 --> 00:33:11,783
Gabriel: John knows, if he tries
to do this by himself,
682
00:33:11,866 --> 00:33:12,992
he's dead.
683
00:33:13,076 --> 00:33:16,204
So John cleverly
understood that,
684
00:33:16,329 --> 00:33:19,332
if there was that much
dissatisfaction in the family
685
00:33:19,416 --> 00:33:22,377
and he can get
the key people,
686
00:33:22,502 --> 00:33:26,506
getting them means you got
a lot less to worry about.
687
00:33:26,589 --> 00:33:31,302
The first person they approach
is Sammy Gravano.
688
00:33:31,386 --> 00:33:32,595
Gabriel: John's a Queens guy,
689
00:33:32,679 --> 00:33:34,723
Sammy is a Brooklyn guy,
Staten Island guy.
690
00:33:34,848 --> 00:33:38,018
These guys don't go that far
outside of their territories.
691
00:33:38,143 --> 00:33:40,854
But Sammy knows
John's reputation.
692
00:33:40,937 --> 00:33:43,189
And Sammy's got a reputation.
693
00:33:43,314 --> 00:33:45,567
McShane: Sammy is known in
the family for two things --
694
00:33:45,692 --> 00:33:47,902
he makes money
and he murders people,
695
00:33:48,028 --> 00:33:49,779
and he's very good at both.
696
00:33:49,863 --> 00:33:51,239
Gabriel:
Sammy was skeptical --
697
00:33:51,364 --> 00:33:53,658
Why should we risk our lives
for this John Gotti?
698
00:33:53,742 --> 00:33:55,160
He's got his problems.
699
00:33:55,243 --> 00:33:58,329
We may not be happy,
but Sammy's not stupid.
700
00:33:58,413 --> 00:34:00,498
This is a big chance
we're taking.
701
00:34:00,582 --> 00:34:05,462
You're breaking one of the most
sacred rules, taking out a boss.
702
00:34:05,545 --> 00:34:09,215
He said, "Look. I'm going to go
talk to Frank DeCicco."
703
00:34:09,341 --> 00:34:11,676
Papa: Frankie DeCicco was
a good friend of Sammy
704
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,345
and a good friend of Gotti.
705
00:34:13,428 --> 00:34:15,221
Gabriel:
Sammy really respects Frankie,
706
00:34:15,347 --> 00:34:17,557
much more than Paul Castellano.
707
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,101
So if Frankie ever turned
his back on Paul,
708
00:34:20,226 --> 00:34:24,022
Sammy would be like, "Okay.
I'm with you. Forget this guy."
709
00:34:24,105 --> 00:34:30,695
Sammy Gravano, he went to talk
to DeCicco at DeCicco's house.
710
00:34:30,779 --> 00:34:32,989
I said, if we do this,
711
00:34:33,073 --> 00:34:36,534
John doesn't deserve
to be the boss.
712
00:34:36,618 --> 00:34:38,661
I think you should be the boss.
713
00:34:38,745 --> 00:34:41,206
♪♪
714
00:34:41,289 --> 00:34:43,083
You deserve it.
715
00:34:43,208 --> 00:34:45,126
You did nothing wrong.
I did nothing wrong.
716
00:34:45,251 --> 00:34:46,878
He did everything wrong.
717
00:34:46,961 --> 00:34:49,839
Gabriel: And Frankie understood
things well.
718
00:34:49,923 --> 00:34:53,718
His retort to Sammy was,
"I can be his number two,
719
00:34:53,802 --> 00:34:55,512
he can never be mine."
720
00:34:55,595 --> 00:34:59,099
Understanding that Gotti's ego
could never be number two.
721
00:34:59,224 --> 00:35:00,600
And Frankie was, he says,
722
00:35:00,684 --> 00:35:02,560
"We could accomplish
what we want to accomplish."
723
00:35:02,644 --> 00:35:05,980
Me and you will be the power
behind the throne.
724
00:35:06,106 --> 00:35:08,108
And I give you my word.
725
00:35:08,233 --> 00:35:13,029
If he doesn't pay attention
and act the fool, like he does,
726
00:35:13,113 --> 00:35:14,739
we'll kill him.
727
00:35:14,823 --> 00:35:16,116
The two of them decide
728
00:35:16,241 --> 00:35:17,951
that they're going to
go forward with this.
729
00:35:18,034 --> 00:35:21,496
Hunter: Gotti was called to
defer to Sammy in the plotting
730
00:35:21,621 --> 00:35:25,291
because he had done
this sort of work before.
731
00:35:25,417 --> 00:35:27,961
This was an extremely
risky endeavor.
732
00:35:28,044 --> 00:35:31,715
For starters, they hadn't gone
to the Commission,
733
00:35:31,798 --> 00:35:34,968
the ruling body
of organized crime,
734
00:35:35,093 --> 00:35:36,803
to get the okay to hit him.
735
00:35:36,928 --> 00:35:39,347
Destefano: It was done in a way
that was outside
736
00:35:39,472 --> 00:35:41,975
the rules of organized crime.
737
00:35:42,058 --> 00:35:43,476
That's why it was
a very big deal.
738
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,478
And there were going to be
consequences.
739
00:35:45,562 --> 00:35:47,522
There was going to be
some blow-back.
740
00:35:47,647 --> 00:35:51,359
♪♪
741
00:35:55,822 --> 00:35:59,951
Cardinale: On December 16, 1985,
Paul Castellano,
742
00:36:00,035 --> 00:36:04,998
having left his attorney's
office in midtown Manhattan,
743
00:36:05,123 --> 00:36:08,168
he and Tommy Bilotti,
his driver,
744
00:36:08,251 --> 00:36:13,048
drove to 46th between
First and Second
745
00:36:13,173 --> 00:36:17,052
to a place called
Sparks Steakhouse.
746
00:36:17,177 --> 00:36:19,471
Destefano:
Frank DeCicco told people
747
00:36:19,554 --> 00:36:21,306
where Castellano was going to be
748
00:36:21,389 --> 00:36:23,683
at a certain time
on that December day
749
00:36:23,767 --> 00:36:25,935
and who he was going
to have dinner with.
750
00:36:26,019 --> 00:36:27,604
Hunter: Sammy planned it.
751
00:36:27,687 --> 00:36:31,066
He figured that the streets
would be crowded
752
00:36:31,191 --> 00:36:32,567
with Christmas shoppers,
753
00:36:32,692 --> 00:36:38,031
and the chaos would make it
impossible for the police
754
00:36:38,156 --> 00:36:40,241
to get on their tail.
755
00:36:40,367 --> 00:36:42,202
We implemented the plan.
756
00:36:42,327 --> 00:36:45,288
We took 11 people on the hit.
757
00:36:45,372 --> 00:36:48,792
Every one of them
was a real pro.
758
00:36:48,875 --> 00:36:50,210
Many of the shooters
didn't even know
759
00:36:50,335 --> 00:36:52,337
they were there
to kill Paul.
760
00:36:52,420 --> 00:36:54,089
They were just told
we're going to hit somebody.
761
00:36:54,214 --> 00:36:56,716
They're going to come out,
and you're going to shoot.
762
00:36:56,841 --> 00:36:59,719
It was a very tightly-held
conspiracy, no doubt.
763
00:36:59,844 --> 00:37:02,722
There was a great attention
to detail.
764
00:37:02,847 --> 00:37:06,184
The four shooters all wore
matching trench coats
765
00:37:06,267 --> 00:37:08,436
and Russian fur hats.
766
00:37:08,561 --> 00:37:11,064
So if anybody was going to
try to be identified,
767
00:37:11,189 --> 00:37:14,526
there are about four of them
that dressed the same.
768
00:37:14,609 --> 00:37:19,614
Sammy was sort of like the floor
manager for the assassination.
769
00:37:19,739 --> 00:37:21,241
Hunter: Sammy watched
the whole thing go down
770
00:37:21,324 --> 00:37:24,744
from a Lincoln Continental
across the street from Sparks.
771
00:37:24,828 --> 00:37:27,580
Destefano: He was there in a car
with John Gotti.
772
00:37:27,664 --> 00:37:31,584
He tipped off the assassins
at the very moment
773
00:37:31,710 --> 00:37:35,588
that Castellano pulled up
to the restaurant.
774
00:37:35,714 --> 00:37:38,383
I tell the team
"The light just turned green.
775
00:37:38,466 --> 00:37:40,760
The first car out is them.
776
00:37:40,885 --> 00:37:44,347
They're going to pull right
in front of Sparks.
777
00:37:44,431 --> 00:37:47,350
Get ready."
778
00:37:47,434 --> 00:37:48,685
Destefano:
If anybody got in the way,
779
00:37:48,768 --> 00:37:50,645
they were prepared
to start shooting people.
780
00:37:50,770 --> 00:37:52,772
♪♪
781
00:37:52,856 --> 00:37:55,775
Hunter: The guys came up wearing
their Russian fur hats
782
00:37:55,859 --> 00:37:58,987
and their white trench coats,
and bang, bang, bang.
783
00:37:59,112 --> 00:38:00,905
[ Gunfire ]
784
00:38:00,989 --> 00:38:04,284
Papa: I don't think
Paul Castellano even made it
785
00:38:04,409 --> 00:38:08,038
to stepping up to the curb
onto the sidewalk.
786
00:38:08,121 --> 00:38:09,456
♪♪
787
00:38:09,539 --> 00:38:12,667
...This evening,
right at this location,
788
00:38:12,792 --> 00:38:16,338
two people
were shot numerous times.
789
00:38:16,463 --> 00:38:17,839
Tentative identification is that
790
00:38:17,964 --> 00:38:22,594
it's Paul Castellano
and Tom Bilotti.
791
00:38:22,677 --> 00:38:24,679
Reporter: Mafia kingpin
"Big" Paul Castellano
792
00:38:24,804 --> 00:38:27,891
was gunned down gangland style
in midtown Manhattan.
793
00:38:27,974 --> 00:38:29,934
The 70-year-old reputed head
of the largest
794
00:38:30,018 --> 00:38:32,187
and most powerful crime family
in the country
795
00:38:32,312 --> 00:38:35,899
was killed along with his driver
and friend, Thomas Bilotti.
796
00:38:35,982 --> 00:38:38,026
McShane: It really went off
without a hitch.
797
00:38:38,151 --> 00:38:41,237
They got out before anybody
really knew what had happened.
798
00:38:41,321 --> 00:38:44,657
Papa: Amidst the chaos,
they were going to disappear,
799
00:38:44,783 --> 00:38:46,326
and that's exactly
what happened.
800
00:38:46,409 --> 00:38:48,995
After the shooting, the three
men, dressed in trench coats
801
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:51,498
and hats, made their way
through the rush hour crowd
802
00:38:51,623 --> 00:38:52,999
to the end of the block.
803
00:38:53,083 --> 00:38:56,002
There, a dark automobile
met them, and they sped off.
804
00:38:56,127 --> 00:38:59,172
A movie script couldn't have
been written better,
805
00:38:59,297 --> 00:39:01,341
and it was mind boggling.
806
00:39:01,466 --> 00:39:02,801
It was shocking.
807
00:39:02,884 --> 00:39:05,929
It was how did this happen?
Who did it?
808
00:39:06,012 --> 00:39:07,514
Who was behind it?
809
00:39:07,597 --> 00:39:09,349
Man:
Where were they hit?
810
00:39:09,432 --> 00:39:12,394
They were hit in the head
and in the body.
811
00:39:12,519 --> 00:39:16,064
♪♪
812
00:39:16,189 --> 00:39:18,441
Destefano: The murder of
Castellano and his driver,
813
00:39:18,525 --> 00:39:22,362
Tommy Bilotti, was one of
the signature moments
814
00:39:22,445 --> 00:39:24,489
in the history
of organized crime.
815
00:39:24,572 --> 00:39:28,243
Hunter: The media reaction
to Christmas hit
816
00:39:28,368 --> 00:39:31,371
on Paul Castellano
was spectacular.
817
00:39:31,454 --> 00:39:34,708
It was front page
in the papers for days.
818
00:39:34,833 --> 00:39:37,377
♪♪
819
00:39:37,502 --> 00:39:39,963
Everybody was taken off guard
by this.
820
00:39:40,046 --> 00:39:42,632
The Mafia has a flair
for the dramatic,
821
00:39:42,716 --> 00:39:45,510
and this certainly was dramatic.
822
00:39:45,593 --> 00:39:48,013
You're now thinking,
"This is war.
823
00:39:48,096 --> 00:39:51,516
There are going to be
other people that will be dead.
824
00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:54,477
There will be other prices
to pay."
825
00:39:54,561 --> 00:39:56,104
Gabriel: We were expecting
a shooting war
826
00:39:56,229 --> 00:39:57,647
right after the hit,
827
00:39:57,731 --> 00:40:00,191
thinking the Frankie DeCiccos
and the Sammy Gravanos
828
00:40:00,275 --> 00:40:03,069
are going to be looking
for whoever the heck did this.
829
00:40:03,153 --> 00:40:06,406
Hunter:
Even to the FBI, Sammy was,
830
00:40:06,489 --> 00:40:08,575
you know, a figure
on the peripheral.
831
00:40:08,658 --> 00:40:12,120
They didn't understand
how much respect, power,
832
00:40:12,245 --> 00:40:15,040
or juice he actually had.
833
00:40:15,123 --> 00:40:19,002
So he had done a very good job
his whole life,
834
00:40:19,085 --> 00:40:20,170
playing it quiet,
835
00:40:20,253 --> 00:40:23,131
which is very much
according to the rules.
836
00:40:23,256 --> 00:40:27,802
That is how you're supposed
to live your life as a gangster.
837
00:40:27,927 --> 00:40:32,849
♪♪
838
00:40:32,932 --> 00:40:35,268
Papa: Sammy Gravano
moved up the ranks.
839
00:40:35,352 --> 00:40:38,938
He became a member of the inner
sanctum of the family.
840
00:40:39,022 --> 00:40:42,859
Raab: Gravano thought
Gotti was such an egomaniac.
841
00:40:42,942 --> 00:40:44,861
He was attracting
so much attention.
842
00:40:44,944 --> 00:40:47,781
He's waving red flags
screaming,
843
00:40:47,906 --> 00:40:49,657
"Catch me, catch me, catch me."
844
00:40:49,783 --> 00:40:52,577
And that's eventually
what they did.
845
00:40:52,660 --> 00:40:55,121
Reporter:
This night, federal FBI agents
846
00:40:55,205 --> 00:40:59,084
arrested the leadership
of the Gambino crime family.
847
00:40:59,167 --> 00:41:03,421
Sammy knew that Gotti was
going to be asking him
848
00:41:03,505 --> 00:41:05,465
to take the fall
for John Gotti.
849
00:41:05,548 --> 00:41:07,217
He saw the writing on the wall.
850
00:41:07,300 --> 00:41:08,635
Now there's bad blood.
851
00:41:08,718 --> 00:41:10,845
Reporter:
But it is Gravano who is poised
852
00:41:10,970 --> 00:41:13,973
to have the last laugh
at Gotti's expense.
853
00:41:14,099 --> 00:41:15,350
He betrayed everybody.
854
00:41:15,475 --> 00:41:17,811
We didn't know how many murders
he was responsible for
855
00:41:17,936 --> 00:41:20,146
till he told us.
856
00:41:20,230 --> 00:41:24,651
Everybody sat in that courtroom
holding their breath.
857
00:41:24,734 --> 00:41:26,528
Colucci: To get John Gotti,
they had to make a deal
858
00:41:26,653 --> 00:41:28,238
with the devil.
859
00:41:28,321 --> 00:41:29,572
I couldn't believe it.
860
00:41:29,656 --> 00:41:31,324
I still can't believe it.
861
00:41:31,449 --> 00:41:34,994
♪♪
862
00:41:35,078 --> 00:41:37,163
Sammy "The Bull" Gravano
had participated
863
00:41:37,288 --> 00:41:40,166
in at least eight murders
by the time Paul Castellano
864
00:41:40,291 --> 00:41:43,378
and Tommy Bilotti
were gunned down in Manhattan.
865
00:41:43,503 --> 00:41:44,796
While the FBI knew
he was a member
866
00:41:44,879 --> 00:41:46,715
of the Gambino crime family,
867
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,092
they had no idea
how lethal he was.
868
00:41:49,175 --> 00:41:52,012
Sammy continued to operate
in the shadows,
869
00:41:52,095 --> 00:41:54,931
but it wouldn't be long before
history would know his name,
870
00:41:55,015 --> 00:41:59,185
and the Mafia as we know it
would never be the same,
871
00:41:59,269 --> 00:42:02,188
in Part 2 of "Sammy the Bull."
872
00:42:02,272 --> 00:42:03,523
I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
873
00:42:03,606 --> 00:42:05,150
Thanks for watching.
874
00:42:05,233 --> 00:42:07,068
Good night.
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