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Richard: There was a man
who was begging and pleading,
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and I told him he could have
a half hour to pray to God,
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and if God could come down
and change the circumstances,
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he'd have that time.
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But God never showed up.
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And that was that.
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Welcome to "Very Scary People".
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I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
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Mafia hitman and serial killer
Richard Kuklinski
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got away with murder for years.
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He used guns, cyanide,
even tire irons
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to execute his victims,
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then skillfully covered
his trail,
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but after he took out
two of his crime ring cronies,
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he was on investigators' radar.
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Now, Kuklinski and an undercover
agent were about to face off.
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Could the investigator
manipulate the notoriously
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secretive killer
to talk about his crimes?
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Here is part two of
"The Iceman".
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Richard:
I beat a guy to death one time.
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I had blood on my shoes --
his blood on my shoes.
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Just goes on that way.
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Had to throw
all my clothes away.
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His name was Richard Kuklinski,
also known as The Iceman.
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Richard Kuklinski allegedly
killed for profit coldly
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and without remorse.
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Shot a guy one time
in his Adam's apple,
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see how long it would
take him to die.
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Kane: Richard Kuklinski was
a Mafia contract killer...
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[ Dog barks ]
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...but he was also
a freelance killer.
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Smith: After making contact
with somebody,
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he would lure them into thinking
that he was able to provide
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a quantity of something that
that person was looking for,
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and he was not gonna
just rob them.
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He was gonna kill them.
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Sanderson: In 1983,
the authorities found a body
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wrapped up
in Orangetown, New York.
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This turned out
to be Louis Masgay.
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Carroll: He was brought to the
medical examiner's office
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and examined.
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He had the same clothes on
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that he disappeared
in two years prior.
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Smith: Even more interesting
is they found what they termed
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as ice crystal artifacts.
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Which indicated that he had
in fact been frozen.
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In the hope that the time
of death would be not known.
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Carroll: That particular crime
was the genesis of the name
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"Iceman".
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We knew we were looking
for somebody
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that had literally
frozen a person.
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Sanderson: Kuklinski was also
working with a small crime ring.
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Kuklinski knew that they posed
a real threat to him.
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And he got rid of them,
one by one.
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Kuklinski had mixed cyanide
in the ketchup
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that was then
brought on a hamburger.
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Man: At least five killings
between 1980 and 1983,
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with handguns and cyanide.
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Smith: Richard Kuklinski was
a very low-key individual.
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He was secretive.
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He looked to be living
a normal suburban life.
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He married Barbara,
and they had three children --
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two girls and a boy.
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His wife, Barbara, told me
she really didn't know too much
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about what he did.
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Roberts: You have said
of Richard,
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"There were two Richards.
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I never knew who'd
be walking in the door.
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He could be generous to a fault
or the meanest man on Earth."
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Tell us more about that.
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That's true.
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He was kind, considerate.
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You know, he would have
done anything for all of us.
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Very generous --
gifts and flowers
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and the best dinners
and nice wine.
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But when whatever twisted him,
whatever happened,
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it didn't matter how good
those times were,
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because the bad was so bad.
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And he abused you physically?
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He certainly did.
What did he do?
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Stabbed me, broke my nose.
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Merrick: He had said that if he
ever went too far with mom --
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Killed her.
Right.
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That I would
have to understand
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that he would have to
get rid of all of us
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because he could leave
no witnesses
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and that it would be hardest.
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He'd have to kill you?
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Carlo: They planned to poison
him -- Barbara and Chris,
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but they realized
that if they tried to do it
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and it didn't work,
that he would kill them.
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Polifrone: This guy was
a walking time bomb.
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You don't listen to him,
you die.
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He feels you betrayed him,
you die.
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You say anything bad
about the family, you die.
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That's his world.
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Carroll: Richard Kuklinski
claimed to have killed
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100, 200 people.
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We simply have no idea.
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Carlo: He was the toughest guy
on the block.
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He was the most dangerous
animal in the jungle.
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Smith: We had acquired a lot
of information
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through various
law enforcement sources,
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which pointed
to Richard Kuklinski.
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The problem with it was there
wasn't enough information
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to arrest him.
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The idea that was suggested was
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we could have an undercover
pose as another criminal.
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I used the name
of Dominic Michael Provenzano.
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After 18 months in there,
I first met Kuklinski.
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He goes, "I hear you have
a lot of connections.
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Can you get pure cyanide?"
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Everybody's sitting
at this long table,
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and my pager goes off.
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Dobyns:
This untouchable serial murderer
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was now seeking Dominick out.
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Dom was no longer
hunting Kuklinski.
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Kuklinski was hunting Dom.
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Everyone is excited
for Dom to call back.
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Polifrone:
One guy says, "Get a tape.
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I want it recorded.
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I want this done now,"
and I said, "I'm not doing that.
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I'm gonna tell you why.
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Everybody that he dealt
with jumped.
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I'm not jumping for him.
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He came to me.
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He reached out to me."
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Dobyns: Gangsters are
not prompt.
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One of the simplest ways
to identify an undercover cop,
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if he's always prompt,
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if he's always on time,
you know who does that?
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Cops do that.
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Polifrone: I waited a day
to give him a call back.
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So, what happened is
the following day,
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we started talking.
[ Telephone rings ]
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They began talking about
doing crimes together,
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and they began talking
about different things.
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Richard: [ Laughs ]
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Dobyns: So, during
the conversation,
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when Dom references
his use of iron,
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he opens the door for Kuklinski
to brag on his technique.
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Dominick Polifrone
told Kuklinski
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that he was interested
in purchasing weapons,
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and in fact,
he was looking for a hit kit.
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Hit kit is a .22
with a silencer on it.
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Kuklinski told him, "Yes,
I can deliver that to you,
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but I'm looking for cyanide."
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I said, "You're gonna give me
an assassination kit,
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and I'm gonna
pay you $1,100.
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After you do that,
you come and see me.
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Now we'll talk business
for your pure cyanide."
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Kane: It was like the ultimate
chess game.
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You got to make a move and hope
it's not the wrong move.
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Woman: Did you ever murder
anyone you liked?
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All my friends are dead.
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At one point in time,
I'm sure I liked them.
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Kane: In the 1980s,
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Richard Kuklinski met a fellow
named Robert Prongay.
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He was also a hitman,
it appears,
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and so they had a lot in common.
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Prongay was
a self-taught chemist,
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and he had an adjacent garage
to Kuklinski's.
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Where Richard Kuklinski killed
several individuals.
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Sanderson: Interestingly, to me,
Prongay ran a Mr. Softee truck,
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and Kuklinski used to call him
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Mr. Softee.
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Richard: He sold ice cream to
the kids in the neighborhood.
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He'd go into these neighborhoods
and sell ice cream to the kids
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and maybe kill
one of their fathers.
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Robert Prongay killed
in different ways.
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I heard a story once where
he liked explosions,
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and he developed a method to
put it in a remote control car,
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and he drove that
under another car of a target...
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[ Explosion, glass shatters ]
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...and he exploded it.
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Heide: Now, Robert taught
Richard some "sophisticated"
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ways of killing,
including cyanide.
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Smith: He showed him how
he could put it in a liquid
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and put it in a drink.
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He taught him how he could
put it on gravy.
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He could also put it
in a spray mist.
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Sanderson: And Mr. Softee
helped him obtain
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some of the cyanide
he needed for his homicides.
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Schumacher: The relationship
between Kuklinski and Prongay
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went swimmingly for a while,
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but before long,
they had a falling out.
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Smith: Apparently, Kuklinski
realized that this guy
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could be a liability,
and "I don't need him anymore.
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He's taught me everything
he needed to.
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He's got to go."
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And he killed him.
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[ Gunshots ]
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On August 8th, 1984,
Robert Prongay's body
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was found shot to death
in his Mr. Softee truck.
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Kane: Poor Bobby Prongay.
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Five in the chest.
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Schumacher: But one
negative side effect
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of Prongay being dead
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is that Kuklinski no longer
has a source for his cyanide,
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which has become his new passion
as a way to kill people.
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So, now he's looking for other
ways of acquiring cyanide.
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And so, I was his man.
I was his connection.
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Sanderson: After they first met,
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Dominick Polifrone
and Richard Kuklinski
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had a bunch of different
meet-ups and discussions
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together about how
to carry out their crimes.
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Dominick wore something
called a Nagra.
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It was a little bulkier than
the technology they use today,
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but a Nagra was state-of-the-art
at the time.
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It is a reel-to-reel
tape recorder,
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about the size
of a microwave dinner.
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So, imagine yourself
going to meet
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an organized crime serial killer
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with this duct-taped
into the small of your back.
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The margin of error
for Dom was zero.
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If Richard Kuklinski finds out
that Dom is lying to him,
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deceiving him, tricking him,
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he's going to drag a straight
razor across his throat.
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In October, he calls.
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He says, "I have your
assassination kit for you."
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We meet at the Vince Lombardi
Service Station
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that he suggests.
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Inside the trunk, a beautiful,
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high-standard
.22 caliber silencer
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affixed to the weapon.
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So, I take the gun,
and I give him $1,100.
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Dobyns: It was a clean
criminal deal
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that just further enhanced
Dom's credibility
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in the eyes of Kuklinski.
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Polifrone: He goes,
"I can't stay that long."
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He says, "But you have your
source for the pure cyanide?"
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I said, "Absolutely."
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He says, "Okay,
let's stay in touch."
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Smith: As the investigation
proceeded, we decided to come up
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with a plan to lure Kuklinski
in to kill somebody.
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We knew he needed money
and he needed cyanide,
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so it was our idea
to join him in a murder plot,
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and of course,
it wasn't really a murder plot.
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Smith: Dominick proposed
to Kuklinski
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that he had this rich kid
that was wealthy
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and always had
a lot of money on him
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that he was dealing drugs with
and he wanted to get rid of.
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Dobyns: When Dom talks to
Kuklinski about the fake murder,
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what he's doing
is opening the door
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for Kuklinski to talk about his
own assassinations and murders.
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Heide: Over time, as he began
to trust Dom,
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he then made some
very incriminating statements.
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Polifrone: He told me how
he killed people
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with firearms and with knives
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and sometimes with chainsaws.
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He had to cut the limbs
to get them into the barrel.
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Smith: One of
the conversations --
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Kuklinski went into detail
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on how you can throw
law enforcement off
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by killing somebody,
freezing the body,
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and them disposing of it
a couple years later.
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Polifrone: He told me that
he murdered an individual,
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that he throws the body
for two years,
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and he made the cops
looks like jerks.
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I said, "What do you mean?"
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♪♪
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Kuklinski is now bragging
on the murders he's done.
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He's letting his guard down.
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Polifrone: He said, "When you do
something like this,
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use Glad bags."
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He said, "They last
a couple of years."
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This is his sense of humor.
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♪♪
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He talked about slipping cyanide
into someone's hamburgers.
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Not only is he not shying away
from it, he's bragging on it.
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Polifrone:
Richie's telling me -- he says,
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"We're laughing at him.
Get one of the lamp cords,
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strangle him,
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and then we throw him
under the bed.
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And then we leave him there,
and off we go."
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♪♪
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Dobyns:
Each time he offers a detail,
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it's back-checked
against the real murder,
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and all of them dovetail.
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♪♪
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Kane: At a certain point
in time,
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it was believed
that Richard Kuklinski
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could tell Dominick
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just about anything he wanted
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because he had plans to kill him
and take all the money.
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I always kept that in my mind.
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"He who hesitates, lost."
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I got it right at the top
of my head.
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♪♪
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Man: Did you think of yourself
as an assassin?
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Assassin.
305
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Sounds so exotic.
306
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[ Laughs ]
307
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I was just a murderer.
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Dominick Polifrone
was undercover for months.
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Four months that I was able
to extract the information.
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All of his conversations --
they're on tape.
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Schumacher: So, after Polifrone
had established
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with his audio recordings
that showed Kuklinski
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admitting to committing murders,
he helps set up the fake hit,
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and this would be
the final proof
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that was needed to put
Kuklinski behind bars.
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They were fully engaged
in Dom's plan to murder
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the rich kid under
the ruse of a cocaine deal.
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Polifrone: A rich kid comes with
cash, and I give him cocaine.
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We were gonna get him
into the van,
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and Rich was gonna give him
the egg sandwiches.
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♪♪
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They were gonna put cyanide
on the one sandwich
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that the kid
was supposed to eat.
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Polifrone: And he's gonna
chop the body
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and put it into the barrel,
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and he would
dump it somewhere,
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and we'd each make
$40,000 a piece.
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Dom certainly didn't want
to give Kuklinski cyanide
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as an ATF agent
who's undercover.
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Polifrone: We had
a simulated cyanide
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that smelled like cyanide,
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that looked like cyanide,
that was made up from the lab.
333
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Dom, instead of cyanide,
gave quinine.
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Now, the reason to do that --
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quinine, if that's administered
to somebody,
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you can then detect that,
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which would then show
that it was given,
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and that they attempted
to murder somebody.
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So, it was really
quite brilliant.
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♪♪
341
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Kuklinski and Dominic met up
on December 17th, 1986,
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at the Vince Lombardi Rest Area.
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Dom gives Kuklinski
the egg sandwiches
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and what is allegedly
a vial of cyanide.
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Polifrone: He brought tape
with him
346
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and rubber gloves that he had,
347
00:21:46,598 --> 00:21:49,726
so he was ready for this.
348
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Kuklinski then says,
349
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"Listen, my wife
wasn't feeling that good,
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but I'm gonna head home,
but I'll be back."
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Kane: Now, what happened was
Kuklinski didn't come back
352
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right away.
353
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Surveillance indicated he was
at his house,
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and the decision was made
then by the upper echelon,
355
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"Just take him down."
356
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And they did.
357
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Smith:
He was extremely animated.
358
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Screaming, cursing.
359
00:22:20,006 --> 00:22:22,008
"I'm gonna kill you.
I'm gonna kill your families."
360
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I mean, he was off the wall.
361
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[ Car door shuts ]
This is unwarranted.
362
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Unnecessary.
[ Car door shuts ]
363
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These guys watch
too many movies.
364
00:22:33,186 --> 00:22:37,023
Never showed their badge, never
read me my rights, nothing.
365
00:22:39,192 --> 00:22:40,318
They think they're gangbusters.
366
00:22:40,402 --> 00:22:43,279
37 guys to pick up
one little guy.
367
00:22:43,363 --> 00:22:45,031
That's ridiculous.
368
00:22:45,115 --> 00:22:46,991
Kuklinski was charged
with five murders --
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Paul Hoffman, Louis Masgay,
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Daniel Deppner, Gary Smith,
and George Malliband.
371
00:22:54,666 --> 00:22:56,292
Smith:
At the time of the arrest,
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the car was searched
for any evidence,
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and in the trunk was found
the egg sandwiches,
374
00:23:03,425 --> 00:23:05,385
and on the egg sandwiches,
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two of them had
the fake cyanide on them.
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So, in fact, not only was
the rich kid gonna die,
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but Dominick was gonna die.
378
00:23:14,602 --> 00:23:19,399
Rich, in your spirit,
he who hesitates is lost.
379
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♪♪
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♪♪
381
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Welcome back to
"Very Scary People".
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When investigators
finally arrested
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Richard Kuklinski in 1986,
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it seemed like
the end of the road,
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but the twists and turns
of The Iceman's evil legacy
386
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,383
were far from over.
387
00:23:45,467 --> 00:23:47,969
A search of the home turned up
shocking information
388
00:23:48,094 --> 00:23:51,097
about one of his killings,
and a late-in-life confession
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00:23:51,222 --> 00:23:54,142
uncovers what could
yet be another.
390
00:23:54,267 --> 00:23:56,519
Law enforcement authorities
have arrested one of
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the most notorious contract
killers in state history.
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00:24:00,523 --> 00:24:03,693
A self-employed Bergen County
man is behind bars,
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00:24:03,777 --> 00:24:05,362
charged with five murders,
394
00:24:05,445 --> 00:24:07,781
and prosecutors are
investigating his involvement
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00:24:07,906 --> 00:24:10,116
in dozens more.
396
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On the day of his arrest,
his home was searched.
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And they found a knife,
and it had eight notches
398
00:24:17,248 --> 00:24:20,293
carved into the handle
on one side,
399
00:24:20,377 --> 00:24:23,254
and I believe three
on the other side,
400
00:24:23,338 --> 00:24:28,677
indicating that he killed
11 people with that knife.
401
00:24:28,802 --> 00:24:30,637
We also talked to an individual
402
00:24:30,762 --> 00:24:32,305
by the name
of Richard Patterson.
403
00:24:32,389 --> 00:24:37,852
Patterson was engaged to one
of Richard's daughters, Merrick.
404
00:24:40,021 --> 00:24:43,024
Richard Patterson opened up
another whole door for us
405
00:24:43,149 --> 00:24:47,862
in regards to what
Richard Kuklinski had done.
406
00:24:47,987 --> 00:24:50,073
One day, Patterson
had been sleeping over,
407
00:24:50,156 --> 00:24:51,783
and Kuklinski got him up early
in the morning and said,
408
00:24:51,866 --> 00:24:56,996
"Listen, I need you to help me
move this package, this thing."
409
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,084
Carroll: And they get in the car
and they go,
410
00:25:01,167 --> 00:25:03,503
and he says to Richard,
you know,
411
00:25:03,628 --> 00:25:06,006
"Jump behind the wheel."
412
00:25:06,131 --> 00:25:08,216
He gets out of the car,
and he goes around the back.
413
00:25:08,341 --> 00:25:13,179
He opens the trunk,
and Richard looks in the mirror,
414
00:25:13,263 --> 00:25:16,141
and he sees him taking a body
out of the trunk,
415
00:25:16,224 --> 00:25:19,269
walking into the woods,
and he dumps the body,
416
00:25:19,352 --> 00:25:21,354
and he gets in
and he tells Richard,
417
00:25:21,438 --> 00:25:25,400
"What you saw here,
you'll never repeat to anyone."
418
00:25:25,525 --> 00:25:29,237
It was ultimately determined
that the body was Danny Deppner,
419
00:25:29,362 --> 00:25:34,367
who was in Richard's circle
of criminal friends.
420
00:25:34,492 --> 00:25:40,165
Kuklinski decided Deppner would
possibly talk and give him up.
421
00:25:40,248 --> 00:25:45,962
He had brought Deppner baked
beans and some other food,
422
00:25:46,046 --> 00:25:49,174
and Danny Deppner
ate the baked beans,
423
00:25:49,257 --> 00:25:54,387
and they were loaded
with cyanide.
424
00:25:54,512 --> 00:25:57,766
He was wrapped
in plastic garbage bags,
425
00:25:57,891 --> 00:25:59,893
and he was taken up
to West Milford,
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00:26:00,018 --> 00:26:02,729
where the body
was dumped in the woods.
427
00:26:02,854 --> 00:26:09,486
His body was not found until
approximately five months later,
428
00:26:09,569 --> 00:26:14,282
and an autopsy showed
that he had an undigested amount
429
00:26:14,407 --> 00:26:16,409
of baked beans
in his stomach.
430
00:26:16,534 --> 00:26:20,413
They found these baked beans
that were so intact,
431
00:26:20,497 --> 00:26:23,208
they could tell they were
even burned a little bit.
432
00:26:23,291 --> 00:26:27,253
That indicated that the person
was eating when they had died.
433
00:26:27,337 --> 00:26:36,262
♪♪
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Heide: The path that led
to Kuklinski
435
00:26:40,308 --> 00:26:46,189
becoming a killer
likely began in his childhood.
436
00:26:46,272 --> 00:26:50,276
Richard had a very difficult
upbringing.
437
00:26:50,402 --> 00:26:53,613
His father,
according to Richard,
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00:26:53,738 --> 00:26:55,448
was physically abusive --
439
00:26:55,573 --> 00:26:59,369
beat him, beat other
members of the family.
440
00:26:59,452 --> 00:27:01,871
When you have violence
in the home,
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00:27:01,955 --> 00:27:07,210
it can create the dynamics that
can lead to violent behavior.
442
00:27:07,293 --> 00:27:08,586
Carlo:
By the time he was 10 years old,
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00:27:08,670 --> 00:27:11,297
he had a host
of personality problems.
444
00:27:11,381 --> 00:27:14,134
He turned his rage
on animals early on,
445
00:27:14,259 --> 00:27:18,930
started beating dogs to death,
setting cats on fire.
446
00:27:19,014 --> 00:27:20,348
Carroll:
Richard Kuklinski was raised
447
00:27:20,473 --> 00:27:24,269
in a hardscrabble section
of Jersey City.
448
00:27:24,352 --> 00:27:26,312
He was of mixed ethnic decent.
449
00:27:26,438 --> 00:27:28,815
He was part-Polish, part-Irish,
450
00:27:28,940 --> 00:27:30,650
and because of that,
he later said
451
00:27:30,775 --> 00:27:35,280
that he was often picked on
and taken advantage of.
452
00:27:35,363 --> 00:27:37,824
Ultimately, he says leading
to the murder
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00:27:37,949 --> 00:27:42,954
of a neighborhood bully
when he was a teenager.
454
00:27:43,038 --> 00:27:45,248
Kane: Richard was about
13 years of age,
455
00:27:45,331 --> 00:27:47,709
and he got sick and tired
of being bullied.
456
00:27:47,834 --> 00:27:48,960
He picked out the big bully.
457
00:27:49,044 --> 00:27:50,754
His name was Charlie Lane.
458
00:27:50,837 --> 00:27:53,131
Polifrone: Finally, he's not
taking shit no more
459
00:27:53,214 --> 00:27:56,551
from the guy,
and did what he had to do.
460
00:27:56,676 --> 00:28:00,013
And he went into one of
the closets in his apartment,
461
00:28:02,307 --> 00:28:05,977
and he took all
the clothes off the rod.
462
00:28:06,061 --> 00:28:12,525
And he says he waited outside
for the boy to come by.
463
00:28:16,529 --> 00:28:19,324
Kane: And then he beat him
to death with that rod.
464
00:28:22,035 --> 00:28:25,372
Heide:
After he killed Charlie Lane,
465
00:28:25,497 --> 00:28:29,209
Richard was worried
that he would get caught.
466
00:28:29,292 --> 00:28:34,339
When he didn't, he learned
that he might be able
467
00:28:34,422 --> 00:28:38,468
to get away
with other acts of violence.
468
00:28:38,551 --> 00:28:40,220
After that,
if he was humiliated,
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00:28:40,345 --> 00:28:43,515
he would respond
with savage violence.
470
00:28:45,558 --> 00:28:49,688
Heide: He learned clearly then
that violence was the solution
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00:28:49,771 --> 00:28:50,939
to his problem.
472
00:28:51,064 --> 00:28:54,025
I was no longer
taking the beating.
473
00:28:54,109 --> 00:28:56,736
I was giving it.
474
00:28:56,820 --> 00:28:59,280
And that's when I learned
that it was better
475
00:28:59,406 --> 00:29:01,741
to give than to receive.
476
00:29:01,825 --> 00:29:07,288
♪♪
477
00:29:08,998 --> 00:29:10,375
♪♪
478
00:29:10,458 --> 00:29:13,837
They ripped me apart
like I'm some sort of fool.
479
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,296
Never resisted.
480
00:29:15,422 --> 00:29:17,007
Smith: The first time
that Kuklinski was brought
481
00:29:17,090 --> 00:29:18,425
into the courtroom,
482
00:29:18,550 --> 00:29:22,679
he had an aura about him,
a threatening aura.
483
00:29:22,762 --> 00:29:26,683
Polifrone: He had them damn
orange-tinged glasses on,
484
00:29:26,766 --> 00:29:28,601
and I was saying,
"Jesus, how can they let
485
00:29:28,727 --> 00:29:30,103
this guy have
these glasses, you know?
486
00:29:30,186 --> 00:29:33,273
Get him a different pair."
487
00:29:33,398 --> 00:29:37,193
Kuklinski's trial started
on January 25th, 1988.
488
00:29:37,277 --> 00:29:40,071
Smith: The prosecution began
with the murders
489
00:29:40,155 --> 00:29:43,033
of Gary Smith
and Danny Deppner.
490
00:29:43,116 --> 00:29:47,996
They were the two best cases
we had out of all five.
491
00:29:48,121 --> 00:29:50,707
We had so much.
492
00:29:50,790 --> 00:29:54,586
We tried the Smith and Deppner
cases over several weeks.
493
00:29:54,669 --> 00:29:56,129
There was a lot of
physical evidence,
494
00:29:56,254 --> 00:29:58,298
a lot of testimony
from medical examiners
495
00:29:58,423 --> 00:30:02,469
about how these people had died.
496
00:30:02,594 --> 00:30:07,307
One of the witnesses
was Gary Smith's wife.
497
00:30:07,390 --> 00:30:12,228
She testified that her husband
left the hotel
498
00:30:12,312 --> 00:30:16,066
where Richard
was having them stay.
499
00:30:16,149 --> 00:30:18,485
♪♪
500
00:30:18,610 --> 00:30:21,821
Carroll: When Gary came home,
she said, "Don't go back,"
501
00:30:21,946 --> 00:30:23,031
you know, "Don't go back,"
502
00:30:23,156 --> 00:30:24,657
and he said, "I have to.
503
00:30:24,741 --> 00:30:27,786
He'll kill the whole family
if I don't."
504
00:30:27,869 --> 00:30:29,871
He goes back,
and Richie kills him.
505
00:30:33,208 --> 00:30:35,168
Carroll:
In court, Kuklinski himself
506
00:30:35,251 --> 00:30:38,004
continued with his continence
of intimidation,
507
00:30:38,088 --> 00:30:41,549
would yell out every now
and then at people on the stand.
508
00:30:41,675 --> 00:30:45,553
Smith: When witnesses testified
against him, he would mouth,
509
00:30:45,679 --> 00:30:46,763
"You're dead",
510
00:30:46,846 --> 00:30:49,057
or he would go
like this to scratch his head,
511
00:30:49,182 --> 00:30:50,350
and he'd go like this with it
512
00:30:50,433 --> 00:30:52,769
and make it like
a gun pointing at them.
513
00:30:54,854 --> 00:30:56,314
Sanderson: I think that
the key evidence
514
00:30:56,398 --> 00:30:58,566
was Dominick Polifrone's
testimony.
515
00:30:58,692 --> 00:31:00,902
It laid out who Kuklinski was.
516
00:31:01,027 --> 00:31:02,362
It laid out what he did.
517
00:31:02,445 --> 00:31:04,656
It laid out the way
he carried out his crimes.
518
00:31:04,739 --> 00:31:07,867
The chief attorney's
asking me questions,
519
00:31:07,992 --> 00:31:10,370
and then they played a tape.
520
00:31:17,711 --> 00:31:20,463
You could hear a pin drop,
and then I can see
521
00:31:20,547 --> 00:31:24,259
some of the faces were like,
"This is hard to believe.
522
00:31:24,384 --> 00:31:26,845
Is this reality?"
523
00:31:26,928 --> 00:31:29,889
There's a talk about cyanide
and how to kill with cyanide.
524
00:31:30,015 --> 00:31:33,435
Must've sent chills through
some of the people on the jury.
525
00:31:45,572 --> 00:31:46,906
The tapes killed him.
526
00:31:46,990 --> 00:31:50,785
The tapes were devastating.
527
00:31:50,910 --> 00:31:52,454
Devastating.
528
00:31:52,579 --> 00:31:55,498
It gave the jurors
a very clear picture
529
00:31:55,582 --> 00:31:57,751
of what kind of guy he was.
530
00:32:10,388 --> 00:32:13,516
Carroll: All up until the time
that Dominick took the sand,
531
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,685
Kuklinski's wife
and his daughters were in court.
532
00:32:15,769 --> 00:32:19,773
You could see his wife and
his daughters were disbelieving.
533
00:32:19,856 --> 00:32:21,775
They just couldn't believe
that he had done
534
00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:23,151
these type of things.
535
00:32:23,276 --> 00:32:28,323
Smith: But when they heard
their husband and father's voice
536
00:32:28,448 --> 00:32:30,200
explaining how to kill people
537
00:32:30,283 --> 00:32:33,495
and how cold
and calculated he was,
538
00:32:33,620 --> 00:32:35,663
I think that really
hit home with them,
539
00:32:35,789 --> 00:32:38,583
and their whole demeanor
changed.
540
00:32:38,667 --> 00:32:42,128
Carroll: We played one of the
most explosive tapes early on,
541
00:32:42,212 --> 00:32:43,797
and we took a break after that,
542
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:49,052
and I looked over at Barbara
and the daughters,
543
00:32:49,135 --> 00:32:52,347
and they were all crying,
and she said, "We didn't know.
544
00:32:52,472 --> 00:32:54,933
We didn't know."
545
00:32:55,016 --> 00:32:57,977
Through all of that time,
all of these dozens and dozens
546
00:32:58,061 --> 00:33:00,271
and maybe as many
as 200 murders, Barbara,
547
00:33:00,355 --> 00:33:02,691
you didn't know
that anything was up?
548
00:33:02,816 --> 00:33:05,360
You lived with this man
for 25 years, you knew nothing?
549
00:33:05,485 --> 00:33:06,820
Barbara: No.
550
00:33:06,945 --> 00:33:09,698
First of all,
you never questioned Richard.
551
00:33:09,823 --> 00:33:12,492
You have said in the past
that he would sometimes get up
552
00:33:12,617 --> 00:33:14,452
at two o'clock in the morning,
leave the house --
553
00:33:14,536 --> 00:33:16,162
Or in the middle of dinner
and leave the house,
554
00:33:16,287 --> 00:33:19,457
and you'd never ask him why.
555
00:33:19,541 --> 00:33:21,042
Carlo: Barbara was battered
beaten by him.
556
00:33:21,167 --> 00:33:23,503
She was not in a position
to ever question him
557
00:33:23,628 --> 00:33:25,463
about where he was going
and whether he was coming back,
558
00:33:25,547 --> 00:33:27,340
and he was extremely macho,
559
00:33:27,424 --> 00:33:32,053
so she was really put-upon
actually, as were her children.
560
00:33:32,178 --> 00:33:34,514
Barbara, do you think
he could have killed 200 people?
561
00:33:34,639 --> 00:33:36,850
I think he was capable
of anything.
562
00:33:36,975 --> 00:33:40,687
To the jury, it was
overwhelming evidence.
563
00:33:42,689 --> 00:33:44,941
And Richard Kuklinski
was convicted
564
00:33:45,025 --> 00:33:49,654
of the murder of Gary T. Smith
and Daniel Deppner.
565
00:33:49,738 --> 00:33:51,531
Sanderson:
This was what the judge said.
566
00:33:51,614 --> 00:33:53,616
He said, "Words are inadequate
to describe
567
00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:56,703
the depths of depravity
reached this defendant.
568
00:33:56,786 --> 00:33:59,748
The lives of others
have no meaning to this man.
569
00:33:59,873 --> 00:34:03,835
No remorse, no conscience,
no regrets.
570
00:34:03,918 --> 00:34:08,673
Cold, calculated,
pre-meditated murders."
571
00:34:08,757 --> 00:34:10,133
After being convicted
of two murders,
572
00:34:10,216 --> 00:34:13,053
he confessed to two others
in court today.
573
00:34:13,136 --> 00:34:14,763
Polifrone: Richard Kuklinski
later pled guilty
574
00:34:14,888 --> 00:34:16,973
to the Malliband
and Masgay murders.
575
00:34:17,057 --> 00:34:20,060
I shot George Malliband
five times.
576
00:34:20,143 --> 00:34:25,315
The judge says to Kuklinski,
"Can you tell me why?"
577
00:34:25,398 --> 00:34:28,902
And he says --
It was due to business.
578
00:34:28,985 --> 00:34:31,780
Sanderson: When they got him on
the other murders, that was it.
579
00:34:31,905 --> 00:34:33,656
They had effectively
thrown away the key.
580
00:34:33,740 --> 00:34:38,453
He received four consecutive
life sentences.
581
00:34:38,578 --> 00:34:40,705
He was going away
for a long, long time.
582
00:34:40,789 --> 00:34:42,916
He wasn't getting out.
583
00:34:43,041 --> 00:34:44,542
Reporter: And so, it seemed
to bring to an end
584
00:34:44,626 --> 00:34:47,337
the long pursuit
of the so-called Iceman.
585
00:34:47,420 --> 00:34:51,132
Smith: Richard had an unusual
reaction to Dominick.
586
00:34:51,257 --> 00:34:55,720
He, I think in his own sick way,
respected Dominick
587
00:34:55,804 --> 00:34:58,973
because Dominick was able
to get over on him,
588
00:34:59,099 --> 00:35:02,686
just like he got over on
so many other people.
589
00:35:02,769 --> 00:35:04,813
Reporter: Today in court,
The Iceman greeted the agent
590
00:35:04,938 --> 00:35:06,940
with a smiling,
"Hello, Dominick."
591
00:35:07,065 --> 00:35:08,775
Hello.
592
00:35:08,858 --> 00:35:13,279
Reporter: He seemed to be quite
cheery about hello to you.
593
00:35:13,363 --> 00:35:14,489
Well, I reciprocated.
594
00:35:14,614 --> 00:35:16,116
The only thing is,
I'm going home,
595
00:35:16,241 --> 00:35:19,953
and he's going to a different
environment at the present time.
596
00:35:20,036 --> 00:35:24,207
♪♪
597
00:35:24,290 --> 00:35:29,295
After Kuklinski was sentenced
to New Jersey State Prison,
598
00:35:29,379 --> 00:35:31,339
we got a Christmas card
from him,
599
00:35:31,464 --> 00:35:33,800
which was a very sick,
600
00:35:33,925 --> 00:35:37,804
odd number of drawings
with Jesus
601
00:35:37,929 --> 00:35:42,976
and the devil and skulls,
and it was just bizarre.
602
00:35:43,101 --> 00:35:46,271
And that was Kuklinski,
sending us a message --
603
00:35:46,354 --> 00:35:47,981
"Merry Christmas."
604
00:35:48,106 --> 00:35:54,029
♪♪
605
00:35:56,406 --> 00:36:08,001
♪♪
606
00:36:08,084 --> 00:36:11,838
Schumacher: After Kuklinski was
convicted and received life
607
00:36:11,963 --> 00:36:15,091
without parole sentences
for all of those murders,
608
00:36:15,175 --> 00:36:17,844
there was no chance he was ever
getting out of prison,
609
00:36:17,969 --> 00:36:23,975
and he agreed to sit down for
a series of interviews with HBO.
610
00:36:24,059 --> 00:36:28,229
Woman: You tended to shoot
people up close and personal.
611
00:36:28,355 --> 00:36:29,939
Definitely.
612
00:36:30,023 --> 00:36:33,026
I wanted to tell them
just before they left.
613
00:36:35,195 --> 00:36:37,113
I wanted to say goodbye.
614
00:36:41,493 --> 00:36:42,744
Did you like to look
them in the eye?
615
00:36:42,869 --> 00:36:45,038
I wanted them looking
straight at me.
616
00:36:45,163 --> 00:36:46,706
He spoke about his life.
617
00:36:46,831 --> 00:36:49,793
He talked about the murders
that he committed.
618
00:36:49,876 --> 00:36:53,922
He talked about his mindset
when he committed these murders.
619
00:36:54,047 --> 00:36:56,675
What did you want them
to think as they died?
620
00:36:56,758 --> 00:37:02,305
Just see my pretty face.
621
00:37:02,389 --> 00:37:04,182
I'll take it to them.
622
00:37:04,265 --> 00:37:07,852
The last thing they ever saw
was me,
623
00:37:07,936 --> 00:37:12,315
and if they carry that glimpse
to eternity, infinity,
624
00:37:12,399 --> 00:37:17,237
or whatever it is, they're gonna
be thinking of me all that time.
625
00:37:17,362 --> 00:37:19,572
The career hitman's confessions
are a stunner.
626
00:37:19,698 --> 00:37:21,074
The Iceman saying one of his
many victims
627
00:37:21,199 --> 00:37:23,076
was a New York City
police detective.
628
00:37:23,159 --> 00:37:25,537
Schumacher: One of the killings
that Kuklinski claimed
629
00:37:25,620 --> 00:37:30,250
to have committed was that
of a New York City detective
630
00:37:30,333 --> 00:37:32,585
named Peter Calabro in 1980.
631
00:37:32,669 --> 00:37:35,255
Kane: There was a snowstorm
on that day.
632
00:37:35,380 --> 00:37:38,633
Calabro was coming down a road
in Saddle River, New Jersey,
633
00:37:38,758 --> 00:37:41,511
and Kuklinski knew the route
he was gonna take,
634
00:37:41,594 --> 00:37:43,805
and he blocked the road off
with a van
635
00:37:43,930 --> 00:37:46,766
so Calabro would
have to slow down
636
00:37:46,850 --> 00:37:49,269
and go slowly around the van.
637
00:37:49,352 --> 00:37:55,108
And I go to the back of the van,
and I go out the back door.
638
00:37:56,484 --> 00:37:58,403
I take the shotgun with me.
639
00:37:58,486 --> 00:38:03,116
And as he's going by the van,
640
00:38:03,199 --> 00:38:04,826
I fired.
641
00:38:04,951 --> 00:38:07,037
[ Glass shatters ]
642
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,955
Kane: Kuklinski stepped out
with a shotgun
643
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:11,332
and shotgunned him to death.
644
00:38:11,458 --> 00:38:13,835
The so-called Iceman
has nothing to lose.
645
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,087
Today, more than 20 years
after the crime,
646
00:38:16,171 --> 00:38:18,506
he pled guilty
to the cold-blooded murder
647
00:38:18,631 --> 00:38:19,966
of a New York City
police officer.
648
00:38:20,050 --> 00:38:22,260
Man: Did you cause his death?
Yes.
649
00:38:22,344 --> 00:38:23,845
And how did you do that?
650
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,225
Prosecutors are asking for
another 30-year prison sentence
651
00:38:29,309 --> 00:38:30,477
in the Calabro case.
652
00:38:30,602 --> 00:38:33,146
The Iceman is 67 years old now.
653
00:38:33,229 --> 00:38:35,815
He actually laughed out loud
when the judge said
654
00:38:35,899 --> 00:38:38,193
there would be
no need to set bail.
655
00:38:38,318 --> 00:38:42,781
♪♪
656
00:38:42,864 --> 00:38:45,658
When the police came
to interview him
657
00:38:45,784 --> 00:38:47,994
about his statement
that he was involved
658
00:38:48,119 --> 00:38:50,080
in the killing
of Peter Calabro,
659
00:38:50,163 --> 00:38:56,086
Richard said he was hired by
"Sammy the Bull" Gravano,
660
00:38:56,169 --> 00:38:59,464
who was associated
with the Gambino family.
661
00:38:59,547 --> 00:39:02,008
Schumacher: Now, it's not clear
whether Sammy the Bull
662
00:39:02,133 --> 00:39:03,802
was involved,
he has denied it.
663
00:39:03,885 --> 00:39:05,345
There are other theories about
664
00:39:05,428 --> 00:39:07,013
what exactly happened there
665
00:39:07,138 --> 00:39:11,226
and who was responsible, but it
led to Gravano being indicted.
666
00:39:11,351 --> 00:39:16,731
Kane: And Kuklinski was ready
to testify against him.
667
00:39:16,856 --> 00:39:20,902
But then Kuklinski dies
all of a sudden.
668
00:39:21,027 --> 00:39:22,529
Amazing.
669
00:39:22,612 --> 00:39:26,157
♪♪
670
00:39:26,241 --> 00:39:32,664
Richard Kuklinski died March 5th
in 2006 of a heart attack.
671
00:39:32,747 --> 00:39:34,541
♪♪
672
00:39:34,666 --> 00:39:37,877
Allegations are maybe
he was poisoned.
673
00:39:37,961 --> 00:39:41,423
Well, payback's a bitch
if he was.
674
00:39:41,548 --> 00:39:43,425
So, without his testimony,
675
00:39:43,550 --> 00:39:47,262
the state does not have
a good case against him,
676
00:39:47,387 --> 00:39:52,809
and the charges against
Sammy were dropped.
677
00:39:54,853 --> 00:39:57,564
Smith: I don't believe that
Richard Kuklinski was involved
678
00:39:57,689 --> 00:39:59,607
in the killing
of Peter Calabro.
679
00:39:59,733 --> 00:40:00,900
Bullshit.
680
00:40:00,984 --> 00:40:02,193
There might have been
other agendas
681
00:40:02,277 --> 00:40:04,112
that Kuklinski was serving
at the time,
682
00:40:04,237 --> 00:40:06,990
because the person he said
he committed the crime with
683
00:40:07,073 --> 00:40:09,617
was then a major witness
in a federal case,
684
00:40:09,743 --> 00:40:12,287
and if Kuklinski
had been believed,
685
00:40:12,412 --> 00:40:15,415
then that would have
affected his credibility.
686
00:40:15,540 --> 00:40:17,250
Smith: We know that for sure,
687
00:40:17,375 --> 00:40:19,210
he killed five people.
688
00:40:19,294 --> 00:40:22,922
We also assume that
he was involved
689
00:40:23,006 --> 00:40:25,383
in numerous other homicides.
690
00:40:25,467 --> 00:40:27,093
Polifrone: Was it possible it
could have happened?
691
00:40:27,218 --> 00:40:29,429
Absolutely.
692
00:40:29,512 --> 00:40:32,724
He's capable of doing things
like that.
693
00:40:32,807 --> 00:40:37,103
♪♪
694
00:40:37,187 --> 00:40:40,648
Kane:
What a vicious, bloodthirsty,
695
00:40:40,774 --> 00:40:44,944
non-caring,
apathetic person he was.
696
00:40:45,070 --> 00:40:47,113
Cold-blooded killer.
697
00:40:47,238 --> 00:40:51,951
Richard Kuklinski
was an evil person.
698
00:40:52,035 --> 00:40:54,287
Evil to the core.
699
00:40:56,289 --> 00:40:57,957
He did what he wanted...
[ Gunshots ]
700
00:40:58,041 --> 00:41:01,461
...when he wanted
to whomever he wanted.
701
00:41:01,586 --> 00:41:04,923
Period. End of story.
702
00:41:05,006 --> 00:41:08,968
He met his maker,
and I hope it's the devil.
703
00:41:11,304 --> 00:41:13,348
Man: Is that all you've
got left, is hate?
704
00:41:13,473 --> 00:41:15,809
It's all I've got left.
705
00:41:15,934 --> 00:41:18,895
Everything that I ever cared for
is gone.
706
00:41:18,978 --> 00:41:20,480
Everything I ever liked is gone.
707
00:41:20,563 --> 00:41:24,234
Everything that meant
anything to me is gone.
708
00:41:26,319 --> 00:41:28,697
So, hate.
709
00:41:28,822 --> 00:41:31,991
That's all you
started with, too.
710
00:41:32,117 --> 00:41:33,827
Then I've come full circle.
711
00:41:33,952 --> 00:41:35,829
It's time for me to die.
712
00:41:35,954 --> 00:41:37,455
♪♪
713
00:41:37,539 --> 00:41:40,125
Richard Kuklinski made
many dubious claims
714
00:41:40,208 --> 00:41:42,377
to famous
mob-related killings,
715
00:41:42,502 --> 00:41:45,213
including the death
of Jimmy Hoffa.
716
00:41:45,338 --> 00:41:48,675
But without definitive proof,
we may never know.
717
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,510
Kuklinski's wife, Barbara,
718
00:41:50,593 --> 00:41:53,763
said that neither
his imprisonment nor his death
719
00:41:53,847 --> 00:41:55,974
relieve the ongoing terror
she felt
720
00:41:56,057 --> 00:41:58,184
as a result
of being married to him,
721
00:41:58,268 --> 00:42:01,563
saying he still haunted her
in her dreams.
722
00:42:01,688 --> 00:42:03,023
I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
723
00:42:03,106 --> 00:42:04,524
Thanks for watching.
724
00:42:04,649 --> 00:42:07,402
Good night.
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