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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,629 --> 00:00:14,097 ♪♪ 2 00:00:14,180 --> 00:00:17,600 Jordan: He posed his victim. 3 00:00:17,684 --> 00:00:22,605 She is posed on the floor, with her arms behind her back, 4 00:00:22,689 --> 00:00:27,986 displayed like a subject of a photo shoot. 5 00:00:28,069 --> 00:00:32,699 And this is the killer's way of objectifying her as worthless. 6 00:00:32,824 --> 00:00:36,244 It's for shock value on those who discover her, of course, 7 00:00:36,369 --> 00:00:40,331 but it's more telling of what he thinks about his victims. 8 00:00:40,415 --> 00:00:48,882 ♪♪ 9 00:00:49,007 --> 00:01:00,352 ♪♪ 10 00:01:00,435 --> 00:01:02,645 Welcome to "Very Scary People". 11 00:01:02,729 --> 00:01:04,189 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 12 00:01:04,272 --> 00:01:07,984 Serial killer Rodney Alcala was a charming monster. 13 00:01:08,068 --> 00:01:11,529 His good looks and winning smile hid his true nature. 14 00:01:11,613 --> 00:01:13,323 He was a psychopath. 15 00:01:13,406 --> 00:01:15,158 He selected his victims carefully -- 16 00:01:15,241 --> 00:01:18,286 beautiful, vulnerable young women and girls. 17 00:01:18,411 --> 00:01:20,372 Even children were not safe. 18 00:01:20,455 --> 00:01:23,416 An aspiring photographer, he sometimes posed 19 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:26,586 his dead victims after torturing and raping them. 20 00:01:26,711 --> 00:01:28,880 In a chilling testament to his charisma, 21 00:01:28,963 --> 00:01:30,924 Alcala was chosen to be a contestant 22 00:01:31,007 --> 00:01:33,677 on the popular TV show "The Dating Game", 23 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,721 where he would compete against other eligible bachelors 24 00:01:36,805 --> 00:01:39,432 for the affections of a pretty bachelorette. 25 00:01:39,516 --> 00:01:43,186 Will he be the winner who gets to take her on a dream date? 26 00:01:43,269 --> 00:01:46,815 This is part two of "'The Dating Game' killer". 27 00:01:46,940 --> 00:01:55,740 ♪♪ 28 00:01:55,824 --> 00:01:59,994 Elam: 1977 was just really a terrible, terrible year 29 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,830 in New York City. 30 00:02:01,955 --> 00:02:04,457 Stradford: Son of Sam was running around, 31 00:02:04,582 --> 00:02:07,961 and they had the blackout. 32 00:02:08,044 --> 00:02:11,715 Elam: 23-year-Old Ellen Hover was living in Manhattan. 33 00:02:11,798 --> 00:02:14,342 She had a date with Rodney Alcala 34 00:02:14,467 --> 00:02:17,554 the day after the big blackout. 35 00:02:17,637 --> 00:02:20,098 When her parents didn't get her nightly call, 36 00:02:20,181 --> 00:02:24,102 they call the police to do a welfare check. 37 00:02:24,185 --> 00:02:25,520 She wasn't there. 38 00:02:25,645 --> 00:02:30,025 However, her calendar was open, and on July 15th, 39 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:33,987 written right there -- "John Berger -- photographer". 40 00:02:34,112 --> 00:02:40,160 John Berger was an alias for Rodney Alcala. 41 00:02:40,243 --> 00:02:45,415 Elam: The FBI did interview him in connection with Ellen Hover. 42 00:02:45,498 --> 00:02:49,586 He said he had been on a date with her, but brought her back, 43 00:02:49,669 --> 00:02:51,963 and that was all he knew. 44 00:02:52,047 --> 00:02:54,841 That was it. They had to drop it at that point. 45 00:02:54,966 --> 00:02:57,552 Elam: They hired private detectives. 46 00:02:57,677 --> 00:02:59,971 She just vanished. 47 00:03:00,555 --> 00:03:03,850 [ Camera shutter clicking ] 48 00:03:03,933 --> 00:03:08,271 Warren: Cornelia Crilley was a TWA flight attendant. 49 00:03:08,355 --> 00:03:09,939 She was quite beautiful, smart, 50 00:03:10,023 --> 00:03:12,776 very popular amongst her friends. 51 00:03:12,859 --> 00:03:14,694 Jordan: She was murdered. 52 00:03:16,529 --> 00:03:20,867 And under her body is an envelope with a fingerprint. 53 00:03:20,950 --> 00:03:25,663 One of the injuries was a bite Mark on her breast. 54 00:03:25,747 --> 00:03:28,458 Rodney Alcala is a dangerous predator, 55 00:03:28,541 --> 00:03:31,795 and he was purposely moving around 56 00:03:31,878 --> 00:03:33,880 Los Angeles, New York, 57 00:03:34,005 --> 00:03:37,759 and places in between, looking for people to target. 58 00:03:40,303 --> 00:03:42,722 Jordan: Rodney Alcala is the main suspect 59 00:03:42,806 --> 00:03:47,769 in the rape and abduction of 8-year-old Tali Shapiro. 60 00:03:47,894 --> 00:03:51,398 Rodney escaped, and he's on the run. 61 00:03:51,481 --> 00:03:55,235 Warren: I knew that we had not heard the last of him. 62 00:03:55,318 --> 00:04:05,078 ♪♪ 63 00:04:05,161 --> 00:04:07,831 Jordan: Rodney Alcala has gone from New York 64 00:04:07,914 --> 00:04:10,083 across the United States back to L.A., 65 00:04:10,208 --> 00:04:14,295 where he's comfortable, when he finds his next victim. 66 00:04:14,421 --> 00:04:21,011 ♪♪ 67 00:04:21,094 --> 00:04:24,848 Georgia Wixted was a 27-year-Old nurse. 68 00:04:24,931 --> 00:04:28,518 She had recently moved out of her house 69 00:04:28,601 --> 00:04:32,313 and on her own in Malibu. 70 00:04:32,439 --> 00:04:36,192 She was supposed to pick up a friend on her way to work, 71 00:04:36,276 --> 00:04:37,986 and she never showed up. 72 00:04:40,947 --> 00:04:43,158 Law enforcement did a welfare check and found 73 00:04:43,283 --> 00:04:46,703 that there was evidence of forced entry into her apartment. 74 00:04:46,786 --> 00:04:50,123 The screen had been removed from her window, 75 00:04:50,206 --> 00:04:56,046 and a box had been moved over so that somebody could step up. 76 00:04:56,129 --> 00:04:58,798 Her apartment was in complete disarray. 77 00:04:58,882 --> 00:05:01,468 Blood everywhere, on her bed, the walls, 78 00:05:01,551 --> 00:05:04,637 the floor, the bed sheets. 79 00:05:04,721 --> 00:05:07,474 She was completely naked. 80 00:05:07,557 --> 00:05:11,311 She had been brutally assaulted. 81 00:05:11,436 --> 00:05:15,023 Georgia was found in this posed position. 82 00:05:15,148 --> 00:05:19,110 She was also strangled and had bite marks. 83 00:05:22,030 --> 00:05:24,240 Posing is very rare in homicides. 84 00:05:24,324 --> 00:05:29,037 I think that's about 1% or 2% of all murders are posing, 85 00:05:29,162 --> 00:05:31,998 which is the worst of the worst, the most evil. 86 00:05:35,460 --> 00:05:39,714 After two brutal murders just four weeks apart, 87 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,385 Alcala doesn't strike again for six months. 88 00:05:43,510 --> 00:05:50,392 ♪♪ 89 00:05:50,517 --> 00:05:53,603 Satriano: Charlotte Lamb was a legal secretary, 90 00:05:53,687 --> 00:05:55,230 very beautiful woman. 91 00:05:55,355 --> 00:05:57,732 She lived in Santa Monica and called up some friends 92 00:05:57,857 --> 00:05:59,275 to go out to a bar. 93 00:05:59,359 --> 00:06:01,695 Her friends were not able to go with her, 94 00:06:01,778 --> 00:06:04,489 but her car was parked in a location 95 00:06:04,572 --> 00:06:07,075 she had intended on visiting. 96 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,869 ♪♪ 97 00:06:09,953 --> 00:06:12,789 Elam: 32-year-old Charlotte Lamb was discovered 98 00:06:12,872 --> 00:06:14,165 in the laundry room 99 00:06:14,249 --> 00:06:18,169 of a large apartment complex in El Segundo. 100 00:06:18,253 --> 00:06:21,172 She was found naked with her arms bent 101 00:06:21,256 --> 00:06:23,883 and propped up behind her back, again, 102 00:06:23,967 --> 00:06:26,219 to protrude her chest area, 103 00:06:26,302 --> 00:06:32,100 we believe for him taking his death pictures after the crime. 104 00:06:32,225 --> 00:06:33,560 Jordan: She didn't have her earrings, 105 00:06:33,643 --> 00:06:34,769 and she had gone to the club 106 00:06:34,894 --> 00:06:36,730 the night before with earrings in her ear, 107 00:06:36,855 --> 00:06:39,149 so they were removed and missing, 108 00:06:39,232 --> 00:06:42,861 presumably by the person who killed her. 109 00:06:42,944 --> 00:06:45,363 O'Toole: Her body is found in a building 110 00:06:45,447 --> 00:06:46,948 where she has no contact. 111 00:06:47,073 --> 00:06:51,369 Even people that resided in that building did not know Charlotte. 112 00:06:51,453 --> 00:06:56,708 Rodney Alcala had to move her into that apartment. 113 00:06:56,791 --> 00:06:59,377 It really goes to his sense of confidence 114 00:06:59,461 --> 00:07:03,089 and to the fact that that kind of risk-taking 115 00:07:03,214 --> 00:07:05,592 does not bother him whatsoever. 116 00:07:05,675 --> 00:07:07,927 In fact, it probably makes the crime 117 00:07:08,011 --> 00:07:09,262 even that much more interesting 118 00:07:09,387 --> 00:07:12,223 and that much more erotic for him. 119 00:07:12,307 --> 00:07:19,856 ♪♪ 120 00:07:19,939 --> 00:07:22,275 My mother called and said, "The worst has happened." 121 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,110 McCreary: This is Bill McCreary in North Tarrytown 122 00:07:24,235 --> 00:07:26,071 with a story about the discovery of the body 123 00:07:26,154 --> 00:07:30,241 of a millionaire's daughter missing for the past 11 months. 124 00:07:32,243 --> 00:07:35,497 Elam: Almost a year passed before Ellen Hover's body 125 00:07:35,622 --> 00:07:36,873 was discovered, 126 00:07:36,956 --> 00:07:40,126 and it happened after detectives got a tip 127 00:07:40,251 --> 00:07:44,923 that Rodney Alcala liked to watch the sunsets in the cliffs 128 00:07:45,006 --> 00:07:48,259 up by the Rockefeller Estate in Westchester. 129 00:07:50,428 --> 00:07:55,266 Then, they found her skeletal remains, 130 00:07:55,350 --> 00:07:57,227 and it was through dental records 131 00:07:57,310 --> 00:08:01,022 that they were able to identify that it was indeed Ellen Hover. 132 00:08:01,147 --> 00:08:02,440 McCreary: Police say they do have the identity 133 00:08:02,524 --> 00:08:04,734 of a possible suspect in this case. 134 00:08:04,818 --> 00:08:06,486 Right now, the body of Miss Hover 135 00:08:06,611 --> 00:08:08,822 is in the medical examiner's office up here, 136 00:08:08,905 --> 00:08:10,657 where they're trying to determine if foul play 137 00:08:10,740 --> 00:08:12,909 was involved in her death. 138 00:08:12,992 --> 00:08:15,370 Because the remains were all skeletalized, 139 00:08:15,495 --> 00:08:18,373 we didn't really have a cause of death. 140 00:08:18,498 --> 00:08:22,711 All we know is that because they were buried, it was homicidal. 141 00:08:22,836 --> 00:08:25,171 People don't die and bury themselves. 142 00:08:25,255 --> 00:08:34,347 ♪♪ 143 00:08:34,472 --> 00:08:36,808 Weller: It's just a horrible, random, tragic thing 144 00:08:36,891 --> 00:08:38,727 that happened. 145 00:08:38,852 --> 00:08:41,271 What if she hadn't been where she was when she met him? 146 00:08:41,354 --> 00:08:44,566 What if it'd have been a different day? 147 00:08:44,691 --> 00:08:46,401 It was such a chance encounter, 148 00:08:46,526 --> 00:08:48,653 and he pursued her and pushed for the date, 149 00:08:48,737 --> 00:08:52,115 and she was kind and sweet, and she agreed to go on it. 150 00:08:52,198 --> 00:08:55,452 What if that had not happened? 151 00:08:55,535 --> 00:08:58,747 It was horrible and an incredible tragedy. 152 00:08:58,872 --> 00:09:06,921 ♪♪ 153 00:09:09,549 --> 00:09:11,384 [ Sirens wail ] 154 00:09:11,509 --> 00:09:16,723 Warren: During the 1970s, there were so many serial killers. 155 00:09:16,848 --> 00:09:20,977 Everyone was running around scared of serial killers. 156 00:09:21,061 --> 00:09:23,980 There seemed to be an endless amount of them -- 157 00:09:24,064 --> 00:09:26,524 Green River Killer and the Hillside Strangler 158 00:09:26,608 --> 00:09:28,526 and Son of Sam. 159 00:09:28,610 --> 00:09:31,237 There seemed to be no end. 160 00:09:31,363 --> 00:09:34,574 To top it off, none of these were being resolved quickly. 161 00:09:34,657 --> 00:09:36,785 People just kept on getting killed, 162 00:09:36,910 --> 00:09:39,871 and it didn't seem to end. 163 00:09:39,954 --> 00:09:41,206 Jordan: In an age before Internet, 164 00:09:41,289 --> 00:09:42,916 before the police were coordinated, 165 00:09:42,999 --> 00:09:47,587 before we could actually trace and track similar homicides 166 00:09:47,712 --> 00:09:50,173 and realize there was a serial killer in our midst, 167 00:09:50,256 --> 00:09:54,678 Rodney Alcala capitalized on all of that. 168 00:09:54,761 --> 00:10:00,517 ♪♪ 169 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,354 Satriano: Shortly after Charlotte Lamb's murder, 170 00:10:04,437 --> 00:10:07,941 Rodney Alcala was filmed as a contestant 171 00:10:08,024 --> 00:10:10,276 on "The Dating Game". 172 00:10:10,402 --> 00:10:13,029 Announcer: From Hollywood, the dating capital of the world, 173 00:10:13,113 --> 00:10:15,281 it's "The Dating Game". 174 00:10:15,407 --> 00:10:16,282 [ Applause ] 175 00:10:16,408 --> 00:10:17,575 Here's the star of our show. 176 00:10:17,659 --> 00:10:19,786 "The Dating Game" was, back in the '70s, 177 00:10:19,869 --> 00:10:21,538 a popular game show. 178 00:10:21,621 --> 00:10:23,832 You had three single guys behind this partition, 179 00:10:23,957 --> 00:10:27,544 and the eligible bachelorette would ask questions 180 00:10:27,627 --> 00:10:31,214 without seeing them, and after a series of questions, 181 00:10:31,297 --> 00:10:34,884 she would decide which bachelor she would go out with. 182 00:10:34,968 --> 00:10:36,761 [ Applause ] Thank you very much. 183 00:10:36,845 --> 00:10:38,596 Thank you, thank you. 184 00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:42,642 Michael: In 1978, on a Saturday afternoon, Rodney came in. 185 00:10:42,767 --> 00:10:45,353 You know, he was one of several bachelors 186 00:10:45,478 --> 00:10:48,314 that came in to apply for the show, 187 00:10:48,398 --> 00:10:52,152 and the way that worked was mostly by referral. 188 00:10:52,235 --> 00:10:54,612 Somebody that would come in for the show 189 00:10:54,696 --> 00:10:56,823 would give us a sheet of other people 190 00:10:56,906 --> 00:10:58,450 that they knew that were single 191 00:10:58,533 --> 00:11:01,494 that they thought might enjoy being on the show. 192 00:11:01,578 --> 00:11:03,872 Ellen: We really didn't vet people in those days. 193 00:11:03,997 --> 00:11:08,668 I don't think any television shows of any kind really did. 194 00:11:08,752 --> 00:11:12,589 It was a different era, and even if we wanted to, 195 00:11:12,672 --> 00:11:14,799 we wouldn't have the same kind of access. 196 00:11:14,883 --> 00:11:16,051 I mean, we didn't have Google, 197 00:11:16,176 --> 00:11:18,470 so you couldn't just look someone up. 198 00:11:18,553 --> 00:11:23,099 I do recall that he seemed strange to me. 199 00:11:23,183 --> 00:11:26,061 I picked up on something about him 200 00:11:26,186 --> 00:11:27,687 that I absolutely didn't like. 201 00:11:27,812 --> 00:11:31,358 He was -- I hate to use the word "spooky", 202 00:11:31,483 --> 00:11:35,487 but there was something devilishly spooky about the guy, 203 00:11:35,570 --> 00:11:38,865 and I just said, "I'm not gonna put him on the show." 204 00:11:38,990 --> 00:11:42,077 Ellen: Michael and I did not agree on this particular person. 205 00:11:42,202 --> 00:11:43,578 It was very rare to disagree. 206 00:11:43,703 --> 00:11:47,916 And me and my assistant, we're like, "Uh, what? 207 00:11:48,041 --> 00:11:50,210 No, no. You don't understand." 208 00:11:50,293 --> 00:11:54,297 He was really smart, and he went to UCLA, 209 00:11:54,381 --> 00:11:57,300 and he was a photographer, and he was, like, so happening. 210 00:11:57,384 --> 00:12:02,430 He had the long, black hair, and he was attractive. 211 00:12:02,555 --> 00:12:03,682 Very attractive. 212 00:12:03,765 --> 00:12:06,059 And they said, "You got to use him", you know? 213 00:12:06,184 --> 00:12:07,560 So, I did. [ Applause ] 214 00:12:07,686 --> 00:12:09,104 Well, let's see. Bachelor number one 215 00:12:09,229 --> 00:12:10,730 is a successful photographer 216 00:12:10,855 --> 00:12:12,440 who got his start when his father found him 217 00:12:12,565 --> 00:12:15,985 in the dark room at the age of 13 fully developed. 218 00:12:16,069 --> 00:12:18,071 [ Laughter ] Between takes, 219 00:12:18,154 --> 00:12:20,740 you might find him skydiving or motorcycling. 220 00:12:20,824 --> 00:12:22,867 Please welcome Rodney Alcala. 221 00:12:22,951 --> 00:12:24,077 Rod, welcome. 222 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,163 [ Cheers and applause ] 223 00:12:27,247 --> 00:12:29,374 Elam: He's wearing this brown leisure suit. 224 00:12:29,457 --> 00:12:32,210 He has his hair feathered out and back. 225 00:12:32,293 --> 00:12:34,254 He's a handsome man. 226 00:12:34,379 --> 00:12:37,298 Number one, would you say hello to Cheryl, please? 227 00:12:37,424 --> 00:12:40,593 We're gonna have a great time together, Cheryl. 228 00:12:40,719 --> 00:12:42,262 And he comes in with the attitude 229 00:12:42,387 --> 00:12:44,931 like he's going to win this contest, 230 00:12:45,015 --> 00:12:46,349 and he makes it very clear 231 00:12:46,433 --> 00:12:48,935 to the other two bachelors that are there with him. 232 00:12:49,019 --> 00:12:53,440 I remember that he was very strange and obnoxious in posing 233 00:12:53,523 --> 00:12:56,735 and trying to be smiley and friendly, at the same time, 234 00:12:56,818 --> 00:13:00,280 not giving you a chance to speak when he was speaking. 235 00:13:00,363 --> 00:13:03,491 He convinced a lot of women that he was harmless 236 00:13:03,616 --> 00:13:07,996 and that he was approachable, and he had a beaming smile. 237 00:13:08,121 --> 00:13:10,957 Bachelor number one. Alcala: Yes? 238 00:13:11,082 --> 00:13:14,461 What's your best time? 239 00:13:14,586 --> 00:13:17,047 The best time is at night. 240 00:13:17,130 --> 00:13:19,924 Nighttime's when it really gets good. 241 00:13:20,008 --> 00:13:23,636 During that show, Rodney seemed to be the most playful 242 00:13:23,762 --> 00:13:27,098 and certainly the one she got on best with. 243 00:13:27,182 --> 00:13:33,396 Bachelor number one, I am serving you for dinner. 244 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:34,481 Oh. 245 00:13:34,606 --> 00:13:39,819 What are you called, and what do you look like? 246 00:13:39,944 --> 00:13:44,157 I'm called the banana, and I look really good. 247 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,493 [ Laughter ] 248 00:13:46,576 --> 00:13:48,912 Can you be a little more descriptive? 249 00:13:48,995 --> 00:13:50,121 Peel me. 250 00:13:50,205 --> 00:13:52,290 [ Laughter, applause ] 251 00:13:52,374 --> 00:13:53,708 Elam: The crowd is eating it up. 252 00:13:53,833 --> 00:13:55,835 Everyone's loving this banter back and forth. 253 00:13:55,919 --> 00:13:57,003 [ Applause ] 254 00:13:57,128 --> 00:13:58,421 Later, bachelor one. 255 00:13:58,505 --> 00:14:00,131 Later. [ Chuckles ] 256 00:14:00,215 --> 00:14:02,550 We know that "The Dating Game" of the '70s was very contrived, 257 00:14:02,676 --> 00:14:06,012 and the whole point was to use a lot of sexual innuendo, 258 00:14:06,137 --> 00:14:08,556 tremendous, over-the-top flirtation, 259 00:14:08,682 --> 00:14:10,767 because that's what the crowd wanted, 260 00:14:10,850 --> 00:14:13,603 and Alcala played the part perfectly. 261 00:14:22,028 --> 00:14:23,780 Lange: Number one, would you say hello to Cheryl, please? 262 00:14:23,863 --> 00:14:26,741 We're gonna have a great time together, Cheryl. 263 00:14:26,866 --> 00:14:28,618 Jordan: Alcala is a master manipulator, 264 00:14:28,702 --> 00:14:31,121 and he does this by role playing, 265 00:14:31,204 --> 00:14:33,039 and by going on "The Dating Game", 266 00:14:33,164 --> 00:14:35,542 remember the cat and mouse that he does with the cops? 267 00:14:35,667 --> 00:14:38,211 He's now doing it with the audience. 268 00:14:38,294 --> 00:14:40,046 I'm a drama teacher, 269 00:14:40,130 --> 00:14:46,386 and I'm going to audition each of you for my private class. 270 00:14:46,469 --> 00:14:48,847 Bachelor number one 271 00:14:48,930 --> 00:14:52,225 [Impersonating elderly woman] you're a dirty old man. 272 00:14:52,350 --> 00:14:53,476 [ Normal voice ] Take it. [ Laughter ] 273 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,270 [ Grunts ] Come on over here. 274 00:14:55,395 --> 00:15:00,483 [ Grunts ] [ Laughter ] 275 00:15:00,567 --> 00:15:02,527 [Impersonating elderly woman] Oh, honey, we got to go out 276 00:15:02,610 --> 00:15:04,070 and boogie. [ Applause ] 277 00:15:04,195 --> 00:15:09,534 Rodney James Alcala is one of the most dangerous types 278 00:15:09,617 --> 00:15:11,786 of serial killers you can come across in the sense 279 00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:16,166 that he's good-looking, he's articulate, charming, 280 00:15:16,249 --> 00:15:17,751 high-IQ, intelligent, 281 00:15:17,834 --> 00:15:21,963 able to manipulate almost anybody about anything. 282 00:15:22,088 --> 00:15:26,259 I'm called the banana, and I look really good. 283 00:15:26,343 --> 00:15:32,098 [ Laughter, applause ] 284 00:15:32,182 --> 00:15:34,351 And then the moment of truth. 285 00:15:34,434 --> 00:15:36,394 Would he get picked for the date? 286 00:15:36,478 --> 00:15:38,188 You heard from the bachelors, you got some great, 287 00:15:38,271 --> 00:15:39,814 dramatic presentations, some good answers, 288 00:15:39,939 --> 00:15:41,816 but now, I'm gonna ask you a question -- 289 00:15:41,941 --> 00:15:44,277 will that date be bachelor number one, 290 00:15:44,361 --> 00:15:45,820 bachelor number two, 291 00:15:45,945 --> 00:15:47,197 or bachelor number three? 292 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,782 Who gets the date? 293 00:15:48,907 --> 00:15:51,618 [ Normal voice ] Well, I like bananas, so I'll take one. 294 00:15:51,701 --> 00:15:53,828 Number one. Bachelor number one. 295 00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:55,789 [ Cheers and applause ] All right. 296 00:15:55,872 --> 00:15:58,083 ♪♪ 297 00:15:58,166 --> 00:16:02,545 No one would ever dream that a serial killer 298 00:16:02,629 --> 00:16:05,924 is winning the girl on "The Dating Game". 299 00:16:06,007 --> 00:16:08,468 Say hello to Rodney Alcala. 300 00:16:08,551 --> 00:16:10,136 Rodney, come on and say hello. 301 00:16:10,261 --> 00:16:11,638 [ Applause ] 302 00:16:11,721 --> 00:16:16,643 ♪♪ 303 00:16:16,726 --> 00:16:18,895 Warren: But during the commercial break, 304 00:16:18,978 --> 00:16:20,480 when they were together, 305 00:16:20,605 --> 00:16:23,942 she got, she said, very creepy vibes from him. 306 00:16:24,025 --> 00:16:26,444 She felt very uncomfortable. 307 00:16:26,528 --> 00:16:29,989 She called me at the office and she was like, 308 00:16:30,073 --> 00:16:33,159 "Ellen, I can't go out with this guy. 309 00:16:33,243 --> 00:16:34,369 I mean, he is a creep. 310 00:16:34,494 --> 00:16:36,037 I'm not going. I can't." 311 00:16:36,162 --> 00:16:37,330 And I went, "Well, God, no. 312 00:16:37,414 --> 00:16:39,666 Don't go. I mean, you don't have to go." 313 00:16:39,749 --> 00:16:41,668 And she was [Laughs] extremely relieved. 314 00:16:41,751 --> 00:16:44,337 So, she didn't go on the date. 315 00:16:44,421 --> 00:16:46,798 I think it may have saved her life, for sure. 316 00:16:48,717 --> 00:16:52,554 O'Toole: My sense is Rodney would have been very, very angry 317 00:16:52,679 --> 00:16:57,017 that she would have the nerve to reject him, 318 00:16:57,100 --> 00:17:00,311 and afterwards, he may have made the decision 319 00:17:00,395 --> 00:17:06,192 that he was going to get back into following women, predating, 320 00:17:06,317 --> 00:17:09,029 and ultimately committing more murders. 321 00:17:09,112 --> 00:17:20,457 ♪♪ 322 00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:22,959 In February of 1979, Alcala picked up 323 00:17:23,043 --> 00:17:27,839 a 15-year-Old hitchhiker, Monique Hoyt. 324 00:17:27,922 --> 00:17:32,218 He ended up taking her about 75 miles outside of Los Angeles 325 00:17:32,302 --> 00:17:34,262 and took her out to a wooded area. 326 00:17:34,387 --> 00:17:37,766 ♪♪ 327 00:17:37,891 --> 00:17:41,227 He asked her to pose for some photographs. 328 00:17:41,311 --> 00:17:42,854 She agreed. 329 00:17:43,563 --> 00:17:47,067 [ Camera shutter clicks ] 330 00:17:47,150 --> 00:17:49,903 ♪♪ 331 00:17:50,028 --> 00:17:53,073 Satriano: As they were taking the photographs, 332 00:17:53,156 --> 00:17:58,912 he bashed her over the head with a rock. 333 00:17:58,995 --> 00:18:02,415 She woke up with her hands and feet bound. 334 00:18:02,499 --> 00:18:03,667 He beat her. 335 00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:06,127 He sexually assaulted her, raped her, 336 00:18:06,252 --> 00:18:08,296 and strangled her. 337 00:18:08,421 --> 00:18:12,092 She went unconscious, but eventually, she woke up. 338 00:18:12,217 --> 00:18:18,181 When she awoke, she was tied up, but she started talking to him, 339 00:18:18,264 --> 00:18:22,894 apologizing to him, telling him, "This is my fault. 340 00:18:22,977 --> 00:18:24,104 I'm sorry. 341 00:18:24,187 --> 00:18:26,690 I put you in this position." 342 00:18:26,773 --> 00:18:29,943 With that, he started talking to her more. 343 00:18:30,068 --> 00:18:34,614 And Rodney Alcala broke down crying for some reason. 344 00:18:34,698 --> 00:18:39,452 He took off the clothing that was binding her, 345 00:18:39,577 --> 00:18:43,289 and she asked, "Okay, can I go clean up?" 346 00:18:43,415 --> 00:18:46,960 Satriano: She asked him if she could stop at a gas station 347 00:18:47,085 --> 00:18:49,295 to use the restroom. 348 00:18:49,421 --> 00:18:52,507 Elam: And that is when Monique Hoyt saw her moment, 349 00:18:52,632 --> 00:18:56,469 and she ran to safety and called authorities. 350 00:18:56,594 --> 00:18:59,472 ♪♪ 351 00:18:59,597 --> 00:19:01,141 Shepard: Rodney is arrested. 352 00:19:01,266 --> 00:19:05,520 He is charged with kidnapping and sexual assault. 353 00:19:07,814 --> 00:19:11,151 And what's particularly interesting is that 354 00:19:11,276 --> 00:19:12,652 when he was arrested, 355 00:19:12,736 --> 00:19:17,157 he was only $10,000 bail assigned to him, 356 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,952 and his mother paid that, and so he was free 357 00:19:21,036 --> 00:19:25,081 and in the public while he was waiting his trial. 358 00:19:25,165 --> 00:19:31,504 ♪♪ 359 00:19:31,629 --> 00:19:33,840 After Monique Hoyt, his cooling off period 360 00:19:33,923 --> 00:19:37,969 is four months before the murder of Jill Parenteau. 361 00:19:40,388 --> 00:19:45,602 She was found naked, strangled, sexually assaulted. 362 00:19:45,685 --> 00:19:49,939 Police learn that prior to her murder, 363 00:19:50,023 --> 00:19:52,025 she had actually been in a pub, 364 00:19:52,150 --> 00:19:56,029 where she and a friend had met up with Rodney Alcala. 365 00:19:56,154 --> 00:19:59,324 He definitely wanted Jill, and so, 366 00:19:59,407 --> 00:20:04,954 he's willing to take the extra risk of going to her home. 367 00:20:05,038 --> 00:20:07,791 When you see an offender do that, that tells me, 368 00:20:07,874 --> 00:20:11,044 as a profiler, that that is the victim that he wants, 369 00:20:11,169 --> 00:20:14,506 he's taking the extra risk to get that victim. 370 00:20:14,589 --> 00:20:18,885 No other victim is going to satisfy him at that point. 371 00:20:19,010 --> 00:20:25,100 ♪♪ 372 00:20:26,976 --> 00:20:32,899 ♪♪ 373 00:20:33,024 --> 00:20:35,944 Welcome back to "Very Scary People". 374 00:20:36,069 --> 00:20:38,697 Rodney Alcala has left a trail of dead bodies 375 00:20:38,780 --> 00:20:40,573 in New York and California, 376 00:20:40,657 --> 00:20:42,784 and successfully alluded the police, 377 00:20:42,909 --> 00:20:44,911 but he is losing control. 378 00:20:44,994 --> 00:20:47,414 It's not a matter of if he will kill again, 379 00:20:47,539 --> 00:20:49,582 it's a matter of when. 380 00:20:52,293 --> 00:20:53,420 Mack: In the late '70s, 381 00:20:53,503 --> 00:20:57,132 Huntington Beach is a surf capital. 382 00:20:57,257 --> 00:20:59,759 Everybody allowed their kids to go to the beach. 383 00:20:59,884 --> 00:21:01,803 They could ride their bicycles, they could take the bus, 384 00:21:01,928 --> 00:21:03,430 ride their skateboards. 385 00:21:03,555 --> 00:21:09,811 ♪♪ 386 00:21:09,936 --> 00:21:12,105 Robin Samsoe was a 12-year-old girl. 387 00:21:12,188 --> 00:21:15,775 She was a typical, young, precocious pre-teen girl. 388 00:21:15,859 --> 00:21:17,152 She loved to dance. 389 00:21:17,277 --> 00:21:18,236 She loved her friends. 390 00:21:18,319 --> 00:21:20,155 She loved her brothers and sisters. 391 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,657 She just loved life, as any 12-year-old should, 392 00:21:22,782 --> 00:21:26,036 without a care in the world. 393 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,789 On June 20th, 1979, Robin and her friend, Bridget, 394 00:21:29,914 --> 00:21:32,167 went down to the beach in the afternoon 395 00:21:32,292 --> 00:21:33,460 to play in the sand 396 00:21:33,543 --> 00:21:35,962 and have a cartwheel competition. 397 00:21:37,255 --> 00:21:41,968 [ Camera shutter clicks ] 398 00:21:42,052 --> 00:21:44,804 Shepard: While at the beach, they were approached by a man 399 00:21:44,888 --> 00:21:48,058 with curly hair who had a camera 400 00:21:48,141 --> 00:21:50,685 and wanted to take their pictures. 401 00:21:50,810 --> 00:21:52,228 [ Camera shutter clicks ] 402 00:21:52,312 --> 00:21:55,148 Mack: They were a little bit reluctant. 403 00:21:55,231 --> 00:21:57,108 He was saying that he was a photographer, 404 00:21:57,192 --> 00:21:58,985 and he wanted to take their photographs... 405 00:21:59,110 --> 00:22:00,528 [ Camera shutter clicks ] ...and enter into 406 00:22:00,653 --> 00:22:02,489 a photo contest, 407 00:22:02,614 --> 00:22:05,575 and if they won, he could get some money, 408 00:22:05,658 --> 00:22:08,036 and he would be willing to share it. 409 00:22:08,161 --> 00:22:10,830 Warren: He was taking their pictures, and all of a sudden, 410 00:22:10,955 --> 00:22:14,334 out of the blue, a neighbor approached them 411 00:22:14,417 --> 00:22:16,586 to see if everything was okay. 412 00:22:16,670 --> 00:22:18,004 Mack: When she approached, 413 00:22:18,088 --> 00:22:20,715 the photographer turned his face away from them, 414 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,636 and then walked off in a quick fashion. 415 00:22:24,719 --> 00:22:27,722 He approached two 12-year-old girls. 416 00:22:27,847 --> 00:22:29,224 Who does that? 417 00:22:29,349 --> 00:22:33,687 It's just as creepy in 1979 as it would be today. 418 00:22:33,770 --> 00:22:35,146 Mack: Shortly after that, 419 00:22:35,230 --> 00:22:38,983 Robin was supposed to be at her ballet class at 4:00, 420 00:22:39,067 --> 00:22:42,696 so Bridget suggested Robin take her bicycle 421 00:22:42,821 --> 00:22:45,073 to get to the ballet class quicker, 422 00:22:45,198 --> 00:22:49,869 and then Robin left and went on her way. 423 00:22:49,994 --> 00:22:51,329 Warren: A few hours later, 424 00:22:51,413 --> 00:22:54,833 the ballet studio called Robin's mother and said, 425 00:22:54,916 --> 00:22:56,835 "Why didn't she show up?" 426 00:22:56,918 --> 00:22:59,129 And of course, then right away, 427 00:22:59,212 --> 00:23:03,425 they knew there was something wrong and called the police. 428 00:23:03,550 --> 00:23:05,260 Robin was missing. 429 00:23:07,387 --> 00:23:10,306 Shepard: Huntington Beach did an extraordinary job 430 00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:11,808 on the investigation. 431 00:23:11,891 --> 00:23:13,601 They tracked down the people on the beach. 432 00:23:13,727 --> 00:23:18,064 They tracked down the woman who had seen this photographer 433 00:23:18,148 --> 00:23:20,859 approaching these two girls. 434 00:23:20,942 --> 00:23:23,611 Her friend, Bridget, met with a sketch artist 435 00:23:23,737 --> 00:23:29,117 and had a composite drawn of the person that she talked to. 436 00:23:29,242 --> 00:23:33,955 That composite was put out, and a parole officer 437 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,874 called the Huntington Beach Police Department 438 00:23:35,957 --> 00:23:39,294 and said that looked a former parolee of his -- 439 00:23:39,419 --> 00:23:41,629 Rodney Alcala. 440 00:23:41,755 --> 00:23:45,925 At that time, detectives found out who Alcala was, 441 00:23:46,009 --> 00:23:47,427 obtained his photograph, 442 00:23:47,552 --> 00:23:52,098 which bore a striking resemblance to the composite. 443 00:23:52,223 --> 00:23:55,977 Shortly after the investigator in the case goes home 444 00:23:56,102 --> 00:23:57,604 and is watching TV 445 00:23:57,729 --> 00:24:00,774 and "The Dating Game" episode from the summer before 446 00:24:00,899 --> 00:24:03,443 is now airing on his television. 447 00:24:03,526 --> 00:24:05,653 [ Cheers and applause ] Lange: Good luck, gentlemen. 448 00:24:05,779 --> 00:24:09,866 Jim Lange from "The Dating Game" introduces bachelor number one. 449 00:24:09,949 --> 00:24:12,118 Please welcome Rodney Alcala. 450 00:24:12,243 --> 00:24:15,163 Rod, welcome. [ Cheers and applause ] 451 00:24:15,288 --> 00:24:16,956 The detective immediately started calling 452 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,500 the police department, trying to get ahold 453 00:24:18,625 --> 00:24:21,711 of the sergeants and supervisors 454 00:24:21,795 --> 00:24:23,630 to let them know that he had just seen 455 00:24:23,713 --> 00:24:25,799 Rodney Alcala on TV. 456 00:24:25,882 --> 00:24:29,552 [ Cheers and applause ] 457 00:24:29,636 --> 00:24:33,973 Then the FBI called me, us -- Chuck Barris Productions -- 458 00:24:34,057 --> 00:24:37,143 and wanted to know all about him. 459 00:24:37,227 --> 00:24:39,229 So, they came to the office, 460 00:24:39,312 --> 00:24:40,855 and that's really when we found out 461 00:24:40,980 --> 00:24:42,565 what we were even dealing with. 462 00:24:42,649 --> 00:24:47,904 And we sat down with them and gave them a copy of the form 463 00:24:47,987 --> 00:24:49,823 that he had filled out. 464 00:24:49,906 --> 00:24:53,827 The show was instrumental in having identified him 465 00:24:53,952 --> 00:24:55,120 to the police. 466 00:24:55,203 --> 00:24:57,247 The best time is at night. 467 00:24:57,330 --> 00:25:02,669 After that, the detective obtained a copy of the program, 468 00:25:02,794 --> 00:25:04,963 and that program was shown to Bridget, 469 00:25:05,046 --> 00:25:08,842 and she positively identified Rodney Alcala 470 00:25:08,925 --> 00:25:10,927 as the one that was taking her photograph. 471 00:25:11,011 --> 00:25:14,931 Nighttime's when it really gets good. 472 00:25:15,015 --> 00:25:16,891 After getting him identified, 473 00:25:17,017 --> 00:25:18,977 they located him living at his mother's house 474 00:25:19,060 --> 00:25:21,104 in Monterey park, California, 475 00:25:21,187 --> 00:25:23,773 and they began round-the-clock surveillance, 476 00:25:23,857 --> 00:25:27,444 trying to find out his habits and patterns. 477 00:25:27,527 --> 00:25:29,279 They started digging more and more, 478 00:25:29,362 --> 00:25:32,240 finding out about background, finding out about his conviction 479 00:25:32,365 --> 00:25:36,494 for kidnapping the 8-year-old in Hollywood in 1968, 480 00:25:36,578 --> 00:25:39,748 finding about another girl he kidnapped in Huntington Beach 481 00:25:39,873 --> 00:25:41,791 in 1975. 482 00:25:41,875 --> 00:25:45,211 They started developing more and more information on him. 483 00:25:45,295 --> 00:25:47,255 They canvassed the neighborhood. 484 00:25:47,380 --> 00:25:50,050 They find a business that was a bike shop 485 00:25:50,175 --> 00:25:52,260 that somebody left a bike 486 00:25:52,385 --> 00:25:56,473 that appears to have been the bike that Robin borrowed. 487 00:25:56,556 --> 00:25:58,475 They believe sold. 488 00:25:58,558 --> 00:26:01,603 A lot of circumstantial stuff is being developed 489 00:26:01,728 --> 00:26:06,191 that's tying Rodney to Robin Samsoe's kidnapping. 490 00:26:06,274 --> 00:26:13,948 ♪♪ 491 00:26:15,492 --> 00:26:20,914 ♪♪ 492 00:26:20,997 --> 00:26:22,665 Shepard: 12 days after her disappearance, 493 00:26:22,749 --> 00:26:25,752 Robin's body is found up in the area of Sierra Madre. 494 00:26:25,877 --> 00:26:30,590 It had been a lot of animal activity and decomposition. 495 00:26:30,715 --> 00:26:33,134 Warren: There wasn't much left. She was pretty skeletal. 496 00:26:33,259 --> 00:26:34,552 There was some hair. 497 00:26:34,636 --> 00:26:37,430 It was to the point where they could only 498 00:26:37,514 --> 00:26:40,767 identify her through her dental records. 499 00:26:40,892 --> 00:26:44,938 ♪♪ 500 00:26:45,021 --> 00:26:50,610 On July 24th, 1979, police show up to Alcala's mother's house 501 00:26:50,694 --> 00:26:56,282 to arrest him in the death of Robin Samsoe. 502 00:26:56,366 --> 00:26:58,034 Shepard: He was arrested and taken to Huntington Beach 503 00:26:58,118 --> 00:27:01,663 Police Department for an interview. 504 00:27:01,788 --> 00:27:03,456 There's been a gross miscarriage of justice 505 00:27:03,540 --> 00:27:06,584 for being found guilty of something that I didn't do. 506 00:27:06,668 --> 00:27:08,712 Shepard: At Rodney's house, they find photographs, 507 00:27:08,795 --> 00:27:14,300 photographs of kids in various stages of dress, 508 00:27:14,384 --> 00:27:18,805 but nothing that ties him to Robin Samsoe's disappearance. 509 00:27:18,888 --> 00:27:21,016 Mack: During the course of the search warrant, 510 00:27:21,141 --> 00:27:23,393 one of the sergeants at the house saw a receipt 511 00:27:23,476 --> 00:27:26,646 for a storage locker out of King County, Washington, 512 00:27:26,730 --> 00:27:27,981 in Alcala's name. 513 00:27:28,064 --> 00:27:29,649 The receipt wasn't on the search warrant, 514 00:27:29,774 --> 00:27:31,234 so he didn't take it. 515 00:27:31,317 --> 00:27:33,695 However, he did write down all of the information on it 516 00:27:33,820 --> 00:27:35,155 in his notebook. 517 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,490 Later, at the Huntington Beach Police Department, 518 00:27:37,615 --> 00:27:40,160 during the course of his interview, Alcala asked 519 00:27:40,243 --> 00:27:41,870 if he could speak with his sister, 520 00:27:41,995 --> 00:27:43,496 who was at the police department. 521 00:27:43,580 --> 00:27:47,208 Detectives allowed them to converse with each other, 522 00:27:47,334 --> 00:27:49,085 them not knowing that it was still being 523 00:27:49,169 --> 00:27:50,670 recorded and monitored. 524 00:27:50,754 --> 00:27:52,255 Rodney said to his sister, 525 00:27:52,339 --> 00:27:54,674 "At least they don't know about the storage locker," 526 00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:57,844 at which time, bells went off in the sergeant's head, 527 00:27:57,969 --> 00:27:59,679 and he pulled out his notebook 528 00:27:59,763 --> 00:28:02,682 and gave the information to the investigation team. 529 00:28:02,766 --> 00:28:07,103 Then they discovered that Rodney drove to Seattle 530 00:28:07,187 --> 00:28:11,775 and rented that storage locker a couple days after the murder. 531 00:28:11,858 --> 00:28:14,527 The very next day, two detectives were on a plane 532 00:28:14,611 --> 00:28:18,198 to the state of Washington to obtain a search warrant 533 00:28:18,281 --> 00:28:19,991 and go through that storage locker. 534 00:28:20,075 --> 00:28:22,619 ♪♪ 535 00:28:22,702 --> 00:28:25,080 Shepard: They conduct a search on the storage facility 536 00:28:25,205 --> 00:28:27,582 with the assistance of Seattle 537 00:28:27,707 --> 00:28:31,711 and recover many rolls of undeveloped film 538 00:28:31,795 --> 00:28:35,965 and many photographs of potential victims 539 00:28:36,049 --> 00:28:39,552 that Rodney may have targeted. 540 00:28:39,678 --> 00:28:44,641 They found over 1,000 pictures of young girls and boys 541 00:28:44,724 --> 00:28:48,895 that were in explicit and sexually provocative poses, 542 00:28:49,020 --> 00:28:52,941 and a lot of them were naked. 543 00:28:53,066 --> 00:28:54,442 Shepard: They found a new other items, 544 00:28:54,567 --> 00:28:58,238 including a pouch that had jewelry in it. 545 00:28:58,363 --> 00:29:00,240 That jewelry included earrings, 546 00:29:00,323 --> 00:29:02,826 which became extremely important. 547 00:29:02,909 --> 00:29:05,704 And remember, he had taken mostly earrings 548 00:29:05,787 --> 00:29:10,166 from his victims' bodies or from their jewelry boxes. 549 00:29:10,250 --> 00:29:13,837 The jewelry seemed to be, if we could prove it, 550 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,633 trophies that would remind Rodney of a particular victim. 551 00:29:18,758 --> 00:29:21,678 Robin Samsoe's mother was able to identify 552 00:29:21,761 --> 00:29:26,391 two gold ball earrings as earrings that were hers 553 00:29:26,474 --> 00:29:29,602 that little 12-year-old Robin had borrowed from her mother 554 00:29:29,728 --> 00:29:33,273 and was wearing the day she disappeared. 555 00:29:35,108 --> 00:29:38,445 O'Toole: Trophies are often taken so that the offender 556 00:29:38,528 --> 00:29:42,282 can relive the homicide, relive the sexual assault, 557 00:29:42,365 --> 00:29:46,911 and it's a reminder to them what happened. 558 00:29:46,995 --> 00:29:52,042 Just believe that if you want, but Rodney wanted to remember. 559 00:29:52,125 --> 00:29:54,127 Those earrings were never recovered 560 00:29:54,252 --> 00:29:56,880 until they were recovered in that storage locker 561 00:29:56,963 --> 00:29:58,340 in that pouch. 562 00:29:58,465 --> 00:30:01,509 Those became very significant piece of evidence. 563 00:30:01,634 --> 00:30:10,143 ♪♪ 564 00:30:10,268 --> 00:30:13,813 Elam: Nearly a year after Robin Samsoe was found murdered, 565 00:30:13,897 --> 00:30:16,149 Rodney Alcala went on trial, 566 00:30:16,274 --> 00:30:20,111 and every seat in the courthouse was taken. 567 00:30:20,195 --> 00:30:22,489 Jordan: Two mothers in the gallery, 568 00:30:22,614 --> 00:30:25,283 one of whom is Rodney Alcala's mother, 569 00:30:25,367 --> 00:30:27,410 holding her rosary beads. 570 00:30:27,494 --> 00:30:30,372 The other mother is Marianne Frasier. 571 00:30:30,497 --> 00:30:31,998 She's Robin's mother, 572 00:30:32,123 --> 00:30:36,044 and she's holding her handbag on her lap with her hand inside, 573 00:30:36,169 --> 00:30:39,673 and that hand is clutching a gun. 574 00:30:39,756 --> 00:30:43,385 She is ready to pull that gun out, point it at Rodney Alcala, 575 00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:46,888 and pull the trigger so that he can never do this 576 00:30:47,013 --> 00:30:50,392 to another child ever again. 577 00:30:50,517 --> 00:30:53,311 At one point, she began to reach in her purse, 578 00:30:53,395 --> 00:30:56,981 and she felt Robin's hand touch hers 579 00:30:57,065 --> 00:30:59,526 and could smell Robin's shampoo 580 00:30:59,651 --> 00:31:03,905 and knew that it wasn't right and that Robin wouldn't want it. 581 00:31:06,991 --> 00:31:11,413 Elam: The trial lasted two and a half months, 582 00:31:11,538 --> 00:31:15,375 and on April 30th, the jury reached a decision. 583 00:31:15,458 --> 00:31:17,544 They came with the verdict of guilty, 584 00:31:17,669 --> 00:31:22,924 and in the penalty phase, they sentence him to death. 585 00:31:23,049 --> 00:31:25,427 I think that his strategy 586 00:31:25,552 --> 00:31:27,554 has been the classic witch hunt strategy, 587 00:31:27,679 --> 00:31:29,764 and I think the case will be reversed on appeal. 588 00:31:29,889 --> 00:31:33,059 Will Rodney Alcala ever be put to death, in your estimation? 589 00:31:33,184 --> 00:31:34,394 [ Camera shutter clicks ] 590 00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:36,229 Not if I can have anything to do with it. 591 00:31:36,312 --> 00:31:43,278 ♪♪ 592 00:31:43,403 --> 00:31:44,779 But shortly after that, 593 00:31:44,904 --> 00:31:47,365 that case was reversed on appeal. 594 00:31:47,449 --> 00:31:50,410 In 1984, the California Supreme Court 595 00:31:50,535 --> 00:31:52,912 overturned the conviction in Alcala's case 596 00:31:52,996 --> 00:31:55,290 because they argued that the trial judge 597 00:31:55,415 --> 00:31:58,084 should not have allowed for the jury 598 00:31:58,168 --> 00:32:03,631 to hear about his previous child rape and kidnapping convictions. 599 00:32:03,757 --> 00:32:08,428 Just can't believe that we have to be punished for what he did. 600 00:32:08,511 --> 00:32:10,263 He's got nothing to do but gain, 601 00:32:10,388 --> 00:32:13,600 and all we have to do is be destroyed 602 00:32:13,683 --> 00:32:16,353 and be pulled down a little bit further. 603 00:32:16,436 --> 00:32:18,271 I don't know if we can, really. 604 00:32:18,355 --> 00:32:20,982 Satriano: They had to retry the case in front of a new jury. 605 00:32:21,107 --> 00:32:22,609 A new jury convicted him again 606 00:32:22,734 --> 00:32:24,444 and sentenced him to death again. 607 00:32:24,569 --> 00:32:27,781 Rodney Alcala sat on death row for 23 years, 608 00:32:27,864 --> 00:32:31,576 going through numerous appeals, and again, 609 00:32:31,659 --> 00:32:36,331 his case was overturned on appeal for the second time. 610 00:32:36,456 --> 00:32:39,292 Elam: This time, it was because of evidence 611 00:32:39,376 --> 00:32:41,336 that the judge ruled Alcala 612 00:32:41,461 --> 00:32:45,048 should have been allowed to present. 613 00:32:45,131 --> 00:32:47,258 Every time this happens, it's like losing Robin 614 00:32:47,342 --> 00:32:50,470 all over again, you know? 615 00:32:50,553 --> 00:32:51,930 I don't know if you've ever lost a child, 616 00:32:52,013 --> 00:33:00,271 but there's nothing that hurts like that. 617 00:33:00,355 --> 00:33:02,190 Nothing. 618 00:33:02,315 --> 00:33:05,235 Now, we had to come back after 30 years 619 00:33:05,318 --> 00:33:08,321 and present the evidence anew 620 00:33:08,446 --> 00:33:11,074 for the third time in the Robin Samsoe case. 621 00:33:11,157 --> 00:33:17,872 ♪♪ 622 00:33:19,416 --> 00:33:20,834 ♪♪ 623 00:33:20,917 --> 00:33:23,628 Elam: While Rodney Alcala was awaiting his third trial 624 00:33:23,712 --> 00:33:25,588 in the Robin Samsoe case, 625 00:33:25,672 --> 00:33:28,842 forensic science began gaining on him. 626 00:33:28,967 --> 00:33:30,552 Police in California and New York 627 00:33:30,677 --> 00:33:32,721 were looking into cold cases 628 00:33:32,846 --> 00:33:37,851 during the time that Alcala was active in the 1970s. 629 00:33:37,934 --> 00:33:42,439 When we were looking at the Hover and Crilley homicides 630 00:33:42,522 --> 00:33:43,857 and we were going through the boxes, 631 00:33:43,982 --> 00:33:47,068 John Berger's name popped up in there, 632 00:33:47,193 --> 00:33:48,278 and we were like, "Who's this guy? 633 00:33:48,361 --> 00:33:50,030 Why would they talk to him?" 634 00:33:50,113 --> 00:33:51,614 And then, we looked into him, 635 00:33:51,698 --> 00:33:54,868 and we knew his name was really Rodney Alcala. 636 00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:00,540 What we had that was the most probative 637 00:34:00,623 --> 00:34:04,294 was the fingerprint for Miss Crilley's murder 638 00:34:04,377 --> 00:34:05,712 on that letter. 639 00:34:05,795 --> 00:34:08,673 We also had the bite mark evidence from her breast. 640 00:34:08,757 --> 00:34:12,177 Detectives actually visited Rodney Alcala in prison 641 00:34:12,260 --> 00:34:13,762 just so that they could obtain 642 00:34:13,887 --> 00:34:16,890 his dental impression for comparison. 643 00:34:16,973 --> 00:34:21,394 The dentist, he was able to match up her bite marks 644 00:34:21,478 --> 00:34:24,272 to that imprint exactly. 645 00:34:24,397 --> 00:34:27,567 We also had gotten a fingerprint card 646 00:34:27,692 --> 00:34:30,278 from them of his prints, 647 00:34:30,403 --> 00:34:34,115 and a very good late print exam of the detective told us, 648 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:35,450 "Hey, that's your guy. 649 00:34:35,575 --> 00:34:39,371 That's his print that's on that envelope." 650 00:34:39,454 --> 00:34:43,750 With Miss Hover, we really had no evidence 651 00:34:43,875 --> 00:34:46,920 other than what was in her apartment. 652 00:34:47,045 --> 00:34:50,507 Elam: They knew that in her calendar, she had written down 653 00:34:50,590 --> 00:34:53,426 "John Berger -- photographer". 654 00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:55,303 At this point, they also now know 655 00:34:55,428 --> 00:34:58,640 that John Berger was Rodney Alcala. 656 00:34:58,765 --> 00:35:01,267 There were other people that were interviewed 657 00:35:01,351 --> 00:35:03,561 that put him in place -- 658 00:35:03,645 --> 00:35:07,107 even in '77, that put him with Miss Hover, 659 00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:10,110 so we're just connecting the dots, connecting the dots. 660 00:35:10,193 --> 00:35:12,112 ♪♪ 661 00:35:12,237 --> 00:35:15,031 While authorities in New York were building their case, 662 00:35:15,115 --> 00:35:18,159 the third trial for Robin Samsoe's murder 663 00:35:18,284 --> 00:35:20,120 was ramping up in California, 664 00:35:20,203 --> 00:35:23,289 and prosecutors were about to have their own breakthrough. 665 00:35:23,415 --> 00:35:25,834 Satriano: When Matt Murphy and I were preparing to try 666 00:35:25,959 --> 00:35:28,837 the Robin Samsoe case for the third time, 667 00:35:28,962 --> 00:35:33,216 DNA technology caught up with Rodney Alcala's crimes. 668 00:35:33,299 --> 00:35:37,804 Thanks to the DNA forensic technology advancements, 669 00:35:37,929 --> 00:35:45,270 Rodney Alcala was attached to four other murders. 670 00:35:45,353 --> 00:35:46,938 We started, one by one, 671 00:35:47,022 --> 00:35:49,858 analyzing each of those murder cases 672 00:35:49,983 --> 00:35:53,194 and showing that Rodney Alcala's semen 673 00:35:53,319 --> 00:35:58,825 was found inside the bodies of each of the L.A. victims 674 00:35:58,950 --> 00:36:03,288 of Georgia Wixted, Jill Barcomb, 675 00:36:03,371 --> 00:36:05,999 and Charlotte Lamb. 676 00:36:06,082 --> 00:36:08,251 Jill Parenteau, we had his connection 677 00:36:08,335 --> 00:36:10,670 to the basic serology blood, 678 00:36:10,795 --> 00:36:14,758 so we believed that Rodney Alcala was a serial killer. 679 00:36:14,841 --> 00:36:17,177 Rodney Alcala ended up being indicted 680 00:36:17,302 --> 00:36:20,930 and tried to all five murders at the same time. 681 00:36:21,014 --> 00:36:28,188 ♪♪ 682 00:36:28,271 --> 00:36:30,357 Shepard: I was able to attend the trial in Orange County, 683 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,693 and Gina Satriano and Matt Murphy 684 00:36:33,818 --> 00:36:37,906 were the district attorneys representing the victims. 685 00:36:38,031 --> 00:36:42,035 Representing the defendant was Rodney Alcala. 686 00:36:42,118 --> 00:36:47,040 Police searched my house, and at my house, 687 00:36:47,123 --> 00:36:53,254 they didn't find anything that connected me with Robin Samsoe. 688 00:36:53,380 --> 00:36:58,218 They say a lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client. 689 00:36:58,301 --> 00:36:59,761 That's the way it went. 690 00:36:59,886 --> 00:37:02,138 So, you think about that, you know? 691 00:37:02,222 --> 00:37:05,642 What I said, and if I was willfully trying 692 00:37:05,725 --> 00:37:09,896 to mislead somebody -- you all or anybody. 693 00:37:10,021 --> 00:37:11,439 I don't think you'll be able to do that. 694 00:37:11,564 --> 00:37:15,068 Satriano: Rodney Alcala hardly cross-examined anybody 695 00:37:15,193 --> 00:37:17,153 with respect to the evidence in the L.A. case 696 00:37:17,237 --> 00:37:18,488 and ignored those victims, 697 00:37:18,571 --> 00:37:21,741 as if they weren't even important. 698 00:37:21,825 --> 00:37:24,994 He focused on the Robin Samsoe murder. 699 00:37:25,078 --> 00:37:27,997 So, these are the facts in the Samsoe case. 700 00:37:30,250 --> 00:37:33,294 We felt very strong about the evidence in our case, 701 00:37:33,420 --> 00:37:34,754 being able to present the jury 702 00:37:34,879 --> 00:37:39,718 with the full picture of Rodney Alcala's crimes. 703 00:37:39,801 --> 00:37:46,766 He got her into his car, and he drove her into those mountains, 704 00:37:46,891 --> 00:37:51,146 and Rodney Alcala smashed her face in, 705 00:37:51,271 --> 00:37:53,606 and she was still alive. 706 00:37:53,732 --> 00:37:55,942 He brutalized her. 707 00:37:56,026 --> 00:38:00,280 ♪♪ 708 00:38:00,405 --> 00:38:02,824 Elam: In closing arguments, District Attorney Murphy 709 00:38:02,949 --> 00:38:05,618 painted a picture of a man with no soul, 710 00:38:05,744 --> 00:38:08,955 and he asked the jury to do the right thing. 711 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,042 Murphy: Robin Samsoe's day in court is today. 712 00:38:12,125 --> 00:38:15,253 You make sure that he is held responsible 713 00:38:15,337 --> 00:38:18,340 for what happened to that little girl. 714 00:38:18,465 --> 00:38:28,141 ♪♪ 715 00:38:28,224 --> 00:38:30,560 We the jury, in the above and titled action, 716 00:38:30,643 --> 00:38:34,606 find the defendant, Rodney James Alcala, 717 00:38:34,689 --> 00:38:37,484 guilty of murder in the first degree. 718 00:38:37,609 --> 00:38:39,277 [ Applause ] 719 00:38:39,361 --> 00:38:43,531 Warren: The jury found Alcala guilty of all five murders. 720 00:38:43,656 --> 00:38:46,743 Satriano: You know that those families in that moment 721 00:38:46,826 --> 00:38:51,081 have a peace of justice 722 00:38:51,164 --> 00:38:54,250 that's handed to them after such a long wait 723 00:38:54,334 --> 00:38:57,587 of 30 years for their loved ones. 724 00:38:57,671 --> 00:39:01,341 ♪♪ 725 00:39:01,424 --> 00:39:06,846 In the penalty phase, the jury returned a verdict of death. 726 00:39:06,930 --> 00:39:08,139 Connelly: And I have prayed about this, 727 00:39:08,223 --> 00:39:10,684 and I have given my hatred all to God, 728 00:39:10,767 --> 00:39:14,854 because [Sniffles] 729 00:39:14,938 --> 00:39:18,149 I've let this feeling consume me for 31 years, 730 00:39:18,233 --> 00:39:21,861 and I'm not gonna give him no more power over me. 731 00:39:21,986 --> 00:39:25,240 If anybody deserves the death penalty, 732 00:39:25,365 --> 00:39:28,827 Rodney Alcala is screaming for it. 733 00:39:28,910 --> 00:39:32,872 The terror he's left behind -- he's destroyed families. 734 00:39:32,997 --> 00:39:34,791 He shouldn't have gotten out for what he did to me, 735 00:39:34,874 --> 00:39:37,335 much less the next person or the next person. 736 00:39:37,419 --> 00:39:39,129 That's the shame of it. 737 00:39:39,212 --> 00:39:45,468 ♪♪ 738 00:39:45,552 --> 00:39:51,850 ♪♪ 739 00:39:51,933 --> 00:39:53,893 Bashford: When he offered to plead guilty 740 00:39:54,019 --> 00:39:57,939 at 25 to life on both cases, we were thrilled, 741 00:39:58,064 --> 00:40:00,734 and no matter what happened in California, 742 00:40:00,817 --> 00:40:04,154 this plea would stand forever. 743 00:40:05,447 --> 00:40:07,490 Shocking photos from "The Dating Game" killer's 744 00:40:07,574 --> 00:40:08,992 picture book. 745 00:40:09,075 --> 00:40:10,785 They were discovered in a storage facility he had. 746 00:40:10,910 --> 00:40:12,078 These are some of them. 747 00:40:12,203 --> 00:40:13,580 The question is do they point the way 748 00:40:13,663 --> 00:40:15,415 to more of his victims. 749 00:40:15,498 --> 00:40:18,084 Mack: Shortly after the trial concluded, 750 00:40:18,168 --> 00:40:19,461 the Huntington Beach Police Department 751 00:40:19,586 --> 00:40:21,129 released 110 photographs 752 00:40:21,254 --> 00:40:25,008 that were taken out of the thousands that Alcala 753 00:40:25,091 --> 00:40:28,428 had in his storage locker. 754 00:40:28,511 --> 00:40:30,513 Bashford: They decided to release them 755 00:40:30,597 --> 00:40:34,225 because there was hope that family members 756 00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:37,312 might see somebody who had gone missing 757 00:40:37,437 --> 00:40:42,275 and never seen again that might lead to more homicide cases. 758 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,861 Shapiro: Making those photos public is huge. 759 00:40:44,944 --> 00:40:47,113 If anyone can put something together 760 00:40:47,238 --> 00:40:50,283 and have closure for a family, that would be amazing. 761 00:40:50,408 --> 00:40:53,286 I come out on the other side of it, and I was blessed, 762 00:40:53,411 --> 00:40:56,247 but there were so many other people suffering. 763 00:40:59,042 --> 00:41:00,835 Stradford: On the cold case squad, 764 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:07,258 we feel the dead person should not be forgotten. 765 00:41:07,342 --> 00:41:11,137 Their families should not be forgotten. 766 00:41:11,221 --> 00:41:15,809 I'm like, "We got him, and you can rest now." 767 00:41:15,934 --> 00:41:19,187 ♪♪ 768 00:41:19,312 --> 00:41:21,231 Lack of evidence allowed Alcala 769 00:41:21,314 --> 00:41:24,025 to elude prosecution on several cases, 770 00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:26,528 but detectives refused to give up. 771 00:41:26,653 --> 00:41:29,114 Finally, with the advances in DNA forensics, 772 00:41:29,197 --> 00:41:32,784 they got their man, and they're still closing cases. 773 00:41:32,867 --> 00:41:35,328 In 2016, Rodney Alcala was charged 774 00:41:35,412 --> 00:41:38,873 with the 1977 murder of Christine Thornton. 775 00:41:38,998 --> 00:41:40,583 She was one of the women identified 776 00:41:40,667 --> 00:41:42,168 in his photo collection. 777 00:41:42,293 --> 00:41:43,503 He's also been named a suspect 778 00:41:43,586 --> 00:41:46,214 in unsolved murders in several states. 779 00:41:46,339 --> 00:41:48,383 Investigators believe Alcala may have murdered 780 00:41:48,508 --> 00:41:52,512 more than 100 victims across the United States. 781 00:41:52,595 --> 00:41:53,847 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 782 00:41:53,930 --> 00:41:55,348 Thanks for watching. 783 00:41:55,473 --> 00:41:56,975 Goodnight. 61583

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