All language subtitles for Very.Scary.People.S03E05.The.Amityville.Horror.Murdered.One.by.One.Part.1.1080p.AMZN.WEB-DL.DDP2.0.H.264-BurCyg_track3_[eng]
Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated:
1
00:00:09,509 --> 00:00:13,471
DeFeo:
My father was my best friend.
2
00:00:13,555 --> 00:00:16,433
He was the best friend
I ever had.
3
00:00:16,516 --> 00:00:19,310
My mother and me --
we were very, very close.
4
00:00:19,394 --> 00:00:22,355
Me and my two sisters --
we got along excellent.
5
00:00:22,439 --> 00:00:25,108
My two younger brothers,
Marc and John --
6
00:00:25,191 --> 00:00:27,569
we were really a close family,
you know?
7
00:00:27,694 --> 00:00:29,571
It was a tragedy.
8
00:00:29,696 --> 00:00:32,532
I lost my whole family.
9
00:01:03,521 --> 00:01:05,732
Welcome to "Very Scary People."
10
00:01:05,815 --> 00:01:07,233
I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
11
00:01:07,358 --> 00:01:09,235
In November of 1974,
12
00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,780
the quiet seaside town
of Amityville, New York,
13
00:01:11,905 --> 00:01:16,659
became known the world over
for a crime so horrific,
14
00:01:16,743 --> 00:01:19,704
it inspired
a Hollywood horror franchise.
15
00:01:19,788 --> 00:01:22,415
Six members of one family
were murdered,
16
00:01:22,499 --> 00:01:26,252
shot to death in their own home,
lying in their own beds.
17
00:01:26,377 --> 00:01:28,505
Only one family member
lived to tell the story
18
00:01:28,588 --> 00:01:32,217
of what happened that night
at 112 Ocean Avenue.
19
00:01:32,300 --> 00:01:35,845
This is part one of
"The Amityville Horror."
20
00:01:44,312 --> 00:01:46,731
Aronson:
Amityville is an old town,
21
00:01:46,815 --> 00:01:49,150
and it has tradition.
22
00:01:49,275 --> 00:01:52,779
There was this
very congenial feeling.
23
00:01:52,904 --> 00:01:54,322
It sounds so cliché,
24
00:01:54,447 --> 00:01:58,034
but it is like
the quintessential small town.
25
00:01:58,118 --> 00:02:00,453
The center of the town
has the gazebo
26
00:02:00,578 --> 00:02:03,081
where they have
Fourth of July, Halloween,
27
00:02:03,164 --> 00:02:06,459
and Christmas celebrations
with carols.
28
00:02:06,584 --> 00:02:10,088
And you're by the water,
the Great South Bay.
29
00:02:10,171 --> 00:02:14,175
When I was young, I used to
spend my summers in Amityville.
30
00:02:14,300 --> 00:02:17,053
It was named -- "Amicus"
in Latin means "happy."
31
00:02:17,137 --> 00:02:19,389
It's a happy place.
32
00:02:19,472 --> 00:02:21,933
Uruburu:
Amityville was just another town
33
00:02:22,016 --> 00:02:23,726
until the murders happened.
34
00:02:23,810 --> 00:02:27,605
It inspired one of the greatest
horror stories of all time.
35
00:02:27,689 --> 00:02:30,483
[ Gunfire ]
36
00:02:30,567 --> 00:02:37,866
♪♪
37
00:02:37,991 --> 00:02:40,785
[ Dog barking ]
38
00:02:40,869 --> 00:02:43,788
Osuna: It was in the middle
of the night,
39
00:02:43,872 --> 00:02:46,541
pitch black
at the DeFeo household --
40
00:02:46,666 --> 00:02:47,834
112 Ocean Avenue.
41
00:02:47,917 --> 00:02:51,588
[ Dog howling ]
42
00:02:51,671 --> 00:02:54,799
Didio: The family's
Old English Sheepdog, Shaggy,
43
00:02:54,883 --> 00:02:56,176
was howling.
44
00:02:56,259 --> 00:02:58,261
[ Howling continues ]
45
00:02:58,344 --> 00:02:59,888
It's very odd
46
00:03:00,013 --> 00:03:04,184
and quite chilling.
47
00:03:04,309 --> 00:03:06,519
And that's the way
the story began.
48
00:03:06,603 --> 00:03:12,317
♪♪
49
00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,152
Osuna:
Ronald DeFeo Jr. --
50
00:03:14,235 --> 00:03:15,737
his nickname was "Butch."
51
00:03:15,862 --> 00:03:19,240
Butch DeFeo said that he had
been trying to get in touch
52
00:03:19,365 --> 00:03:21,534
with his family
throughout the day,
53
00:03:21,659 --> 00:03:25,538
and he went home,
had to break a window to get in
54
00:03:25,622 --> 00:03:28,208
'cause he had forgotten
his house key.
55
00:03:37,550 --> 00:03:38,885
It was dark in the house,
56
00:03:39,010 --> 00:03:43,264
and he went
right to his parents' room.
57
00:03:43,389 --> 00:03:45,308
Jordan: When Ronnie entered
his parents' room,
58
00:03:45,391 --> 00:03:47,727
he made a horrific discovery.
59
00:03:48,895 --> 00:03:51,856
Osuna:
He found them lying in bed,
60
00:03:51,940 --> 00:03:54,234
shot execution-style.
61
00:03:56,736 --> 00:04:01,199
And he drove very fast
down the street to Henry's Bar.
62
00:04:01,282 --> 00:04:03,284
He opened the door and he was
screaming, "Come on, help me!
63
00:04:03,409 --> 00:04:04,953
Somebody shot my mother
and father!"
64
00:04:05,078 --> 00:04:06,412
Everyone ran out of the bar.
65
00:04:06,537 --> 00:04:08,414
Osuna: It definitely broke
66
00:04:08,498 --> 00:04:10,250
the sleepiness
of Amityville --
67
00:04:10,333 --> 00:04:13,461
something you just would never
imagine in that quaint town.
68
00:04:13,586 --> 00:04:17,382
A friend called 911,
and the local Amityville police
69
00:04:17,465 --> 00:04:19,008
were the first on the scene.
70
00:04:19,092 --> 00:04:23,054
There, they found
something even more unthinkable.
71
00:04:23,137 --> 00:04:25,431
Berry-Dee: And the tragedy
that unfolded that night
72
00:04:25,556 --> 00:04:28,935
is absolutely shocking.
73
00:04:29,060 --> 00:04:32,438
Spero: We heard it was maybe
a double homicide,
74
00:04:32,522 --> 00:04:35,984
but there was one or two
local cops from Amityville
75
00:04:36,109 --> 00:04:38,111
that tipped me that
76
00:04:38,194 --> 00:04:40,405
"This thing is a lot worse
77
00:04:40,488 --> 00:04:42,615
than you guys think it is."
78
00:04:42,699 --> 00:04:45,285
I proceeded to check out
the house,
79
00:04:45,410 --> 00:04:48,913
and I found Mr. DeFeo Sr.
and Mrs. DeFeo
80
00:04:48,997 --> 00:04:52,333
laying in bed with gunshot
wounds to the back.
81
00:04:52,458 --> 00:04:55,044
I then checked
the northeast bedroom,
82
00:04:55,128 --> 00:04:58,464
and I found two young boys
lying in separate beds
83
00:04:58,589 --> 00:05:01,384
with gunshot wounds
to the back.
84
00:05:01,467 --> 00:05:04,470
Then I checked
the southeast bedroom,
85
00:05:04,595 --> 00:05:07,598
and I found a young girl
with a gunshot wound
86
00:05:07,682 --> 00:05:10,643
to the rear of her neck
and head area.
87
00:05:10,768 --> 00:05:13,479
I proceeded to the third floor
of the house,
88
00:05:13,604 --> 00:05:16,482
and on the east-side bedroom,
found another young lady
89
00:05:16,607 --> 00:05:19,986
with a gunshot wound
to the head.
90
00:05:20,069 --> 00:05:23,239
This was a multiple murder --
91
00:05:23,323 --> 00:05:26,868
six bodies, six victims.
92
00:05:26,993 --> 00:05:30,079
And then we found out
it was the DeFeo family --
93
00:05:30,163 --> 00:05:31,998
the father, the mother.
94
00:05:32,081 --> 00:05:33,875
Dawn was 18,
95
00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,294
Allison was 13,
96
00:05:36,377 --> 00:05:38,463
Marc was 11,
97
00:05:38,546 --> 00:05:41,716
and John, the youngest one,
was 9.
98
00:05:41,841 --> 00:05:44,510
His whole life was taken away.
99
00:05:44,635 --> 00:05:47,513
Greguski: I had never seen
anything this gruesome,
100
00:05:47,638 --> 00:05:50,892
and I couldn't sleep for months.
101
00:05:51,017 --> 00:05:52,769
♪♪
102
00:05:52,852 --> 00:05:55,396
Jordan: The DeFeo family
had moved from Brooklyn
103
00:05:55,521 --> 00:05:58,524
to their stately
Amityville home in 1965,
104
00:05:58,608 --> 00:06:01,319
and many wondered,
was it a burglary
105
00:06:01,402 --> 00:06:03,404
or maybe a home invasion
106
00:06:03,529 --> 00:06:06,949
that had been the motive
for the murders?
107
00:06:07,033 --> 00:06:09,285
Turner:
You could tell they had money.
108
00:06:09,369 --> 00:06:13,456
The house was a very, very nice
house in a good neighborhood,
109
00:06:13,539 --> 00:06:17,460
on the water,
with a pool and a boat dock,
110
00:06:17,543 --> 00:06:20,004
and there was
a [Laughing] sign out front
111
00:06:20,088 --> 00:06:22,048
that said, "High Hopes."
112
00:06:22,173 --> 00:06:23,549
I remember saying to myself,
113
00:06:23,633 --> 00:06:26,886
"Well, I guess
their high hopes are gone."
114
00:06:26,969 --> 00:06:29,222
Man: This bulletin from
the WOR newsroom.
115
00:06:29,305 --> 00:06:32,433
Six members of one family
have been found shot to death
116
00:06:32,558 --> 00:06:34,727
in their nightclothes
in their expensive home
117
00:06:34,852 --> 00:06:36,938
in Amityville, Long Island.
118
00:06:37,063 --> 00:06:40,733
Martin: Six people in one family
had been murdered.
119
00:06:40,858 --> 00:06:42,485
That was quite astounding.
120
00:06:42,568 --> 00:06:43,820
Not only were there six dead,
121
00:06:43,903 --> 00:06:46,656
but they were all killed
in their beds.
122
00:06:46,739 --> 00:06:48,741
And there's no evidence
of a struggle,
123
00:06:48,825 --> 00:06:50,993
and everyone was
sleeping peacefully.
124
00:06:51,077 --> 00:06:53,454
All found in the same position,
facedown.
125
00:06:53,579 --> 00:06:56,958
And that was very unusual.
126
00:06:57,083 --> 00:06:59,127
They were found
by a 23-year-old son,
127
00:06:59,252 --> 00:07:01,587
Man: Ronald DeFeo,
who is believed to be
128
00:07:01,671 --> 00:07:04,132
the only surviving member
of the family.
129
00:07:04,257 --> 00:07:07,510
Police investigating the case
say they have no suspect,
130
00:07:07,593 --> 00:07:10,763
no weapon, and no leads.
131
00:07:10,888 --> 00:07:15,643
There was just a few of us
that were gathered there.
132
00:07:15,768 --> 00:07:18,396
Suffolk County --
they had the homicide unit,
133
00:07:18,479 --> 00:07:20,481
and they had
the police tape up.
134
00:07:20,606 --> 00:07:21,858
Because the police were there,
135
00:07:21,941 --> 00:07:23,776
some of the neighbors
started showing up.
136
00:07:23,860 --> 00:07:25,611
And the neighbors said,
"What's going on?
137
00:07:25,695 --> 00:07:26,904
What do you know?"
138
00:07:26,988 --> 00:07:28,948
Martin:
There we were on Ocean Avenue,
139
00:07:29,031 --> 00:07:31,451
and there's a crowd
on the other side of the street.
140
00:07:31,534 --> 00:07:34,287
The scene was -- It was surreal.
141
00:07:34,370 --> 00:07:37,915
Spero: And then the body bags
started coming out.
142
00:07:37,999 --> 00:07:40,793
There were two large body bags
at first,
143
00:07:40,877 --> 00:07:43,546
and then there was another one
144
00:07:43,629 --> 00:07:46,132
and another one
145
00:07:46,215 --> 00:07:48,426
and another one
146
00:07:48,509 --> 00:07:49,677
and then the final one,
147
00:07:49,802 --> 00:07:52,472
and the ones at the end --
148
00:07:52,597 --> 00:07:55,475
they were the smaller body bags.
149
00:07:55,558 --> 00:07:57,143
And then we looked
at each other,
150
00:07:57,268 --> 00:07:58,561
and we said, "Oh, my God."
151
00:07:58,644 --> 00:08:00,313
Martin: We're just watching
bodies come out
152
00:08:00,438 --> 00:08:01,689
and cameras going off
153
00:08:01,814 --> 00:08:03,816
and police and officials,
154
00:08:03,900 --> 00:08:05,818
and the crowd is very quiet.
155
00:08:05,902 --> 00:08:07,653
I've never seen a crowd
that quiet.
156
00:08:07,737 --> 00:08:09,447
Something big had gone down.
157
00:08:09,530 --> 00:08:12,158
That was what was in the air.
158
00:08:12,283 --> 00:08:14,911
Little did we know
what was going to happen.
159
00:08:14,994 --> 00:08:17,580
♪♪
160
00:08:17,663 --> 00:08:18,998
The DeFeos had a reputation.
161
00:08:19,081 --> 00:08:21,000
Dr. Cohen: You have a family
with secrets --
162
00:08:21,125 --> 00:08:26,088
criminal secrets, and there are
also violent secrets.
163
00:08:26,172 --> 00:08:31,886
♪♪
164
00:08:34,430 --> 00:08:37,183
♪♪
165
00:08:37,266 --> 00:08:40,520
Scott: The story broke
of a family of six
166
00:08:40,645 --> 00:08:43,105
slaughtered
in Amityville, Long Island.
167
00:08:43,189 --> 00:08:45,858
Six members of a suburban
New York family
168
00:08:45,942 --> 00:08:49,153
have been found shot
to death in their beds.
169
00:08:49,237 --> 00:08:52,782
Didio: It was all over the news
because Amityville --
170
00:08:52,865 --> 00:08:57,161
they had had maybe
one murder in 100 years.
171
00:08:57,245 --> 00:08:59,747
Gloria:
I remember the phone rang,
172
00:08:59,872 --> 00:09:04,126
and they said,
"The DeFeos are all dead.
173
00:09:04,210 --> 00:09:06,128
They were all murdered."
174
00:09:06,212 --> 00:09:08,047
Killed were auto dealer
Ronald DeFeo,
175
00:09:08,172 --> 00:09:10,550
his wife,
and four of their children.
176
00:09:10,633 --> 00:09:13,719
They were all gone.
They were all gone.
177
00:09:13,844 --> 00:09:18,224
And there's only one
surviving member of the family,
178
00:09:18,349 --> 00:09:20,601
Ron Jr.
179
00:09:20,726 --> 00:09:23,312
Ron Jr. said he came home
to find his family dead.
180
00:09:30,820 --> 00:09:34,532
Ronald DeFeo Sr.,
also known as "Big Ronnie,"
181
00:09:34,615 --> 00:09:36,659
had grown up in Brooklyn,
New York.
182
00:09:36,742 --> 00:09:39,287
He had been a high-school
athlete back in the day
183
00:09:39,412 --> 00:09:43,082
when he caught the eye of
the beautiful Louise Brigante.
184
00:09:43,207 --> 00:09:47,295
Osuna: When "Big Ronnie,"
Ronald DeFeo Sr., met Louise,
185
00:09:47,420 --> 00:09:50,965
it seemed like they had fallen
in love pretty quick.
186
00:09:51,090 --> 00:09:54,677
And Louise's parents,
the Brigantes,
187
00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,887
were not a fan of Big Ronnie.
188
00:09:56,971 --> 00:10:00,266
He was crude, obnoxious,
a braggart.
189
00:10:00,349 --> 00:10:03,477
They didn't really see Louise
with him.
190
00:10:03,603 --> 00:10:07,106
Despite her parents' objections,
Louise married Big Ronnie,
191
00:10:07,189 --> 00:10:10,443
and the two settled into a life
in a Brooklyn apartment.
192
00:10:10,568 --> 00:10:13,988
Soon after, the couple
welcomed a son, Ronald Jr.,
193
00:10:14,113 --> 00:10:16,616
and two daughters,
Dawn and Allison,
194
00:10:16,741 --> 00:10:18,826
and another son, named Marc.
195
00:10:18,951 --> 00:10:20,786
Before the birth
of their last child,
196
00:10:20,911 --> 00:10:23,998
John Matthew, the family
moved out to Long Island
197
00:10:24,123 --> 00:10:27,835
and their waterfront home
in Amityville.
198
00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:29,587
They had been living
in Brooklyn,
199
00:10:29,670 --> 00:10:34,634
and Louise Brigante-DeFeo was
the apple of her father's eye.
200
00:10:34,717 --> 00:10:36,427
He would do anything
for his daughter.
201
00:10:36,510 --> 00:10:40,097
Osuna: The Brigantes
loved Louise very, very much,
202
00:10:40,181 --> 00:10:44,101
and they wanted to make sure
she was provided for,
203
00:10:44,185 --> 00:10:47,813
so they actually bought
the house in Amityville
204
00:10:47,938 --> 00:10:49,774
for the DeFeos.
205
00:10:49,857 --> 00:10:52,318
Uruburu: For me,
the house was like something
206
00:10:52,401 --> 00:10:53,778
out of a movie.
207
00:10:53,861 --> 00:10:56,656
They lived on the canal,
and they had a boathouse.
208
00:10:56,739 --> 00:10:59,867
When you went in, they had these
big rooms with high ceilings.
209
00:10:59,992 --> 00:11:02,828
I felt like I was going back
in time.
210
00:11:02,953 --> 00:11:05,915
They were having these portraits
painted of themselves
211
00:11:05,998 --> 00:11:08,334
that were going to be
hung on the staircase.
212
00:11:08,417 --> 00:11:13,255
It's like this is some sort of a
19th-century Gilded Age family,
213
00:11:13,339 --> 00:11:16,550
not knowing at all
what the future was gonna be.
214
00:11:16,676 --> 00:11:18,803
Gloria:
The move to Amityville
215
00:11:18,886 --> 00:11:20,763
was like a new start.
216
00:11:20,846 --> 00:11:23,683
That's why they named
the place High Hopes.
217
00:11:23,808 --> 00:11:26,185
This was gonna be the beginning.
218
00:11:26,310 --> 00:11:32,692
But who would kill this family,
all of them, in cold blood?
219
00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,946
Mellon:
We have no suspect at this time.
220
00:11:37,029 --> 00:11:39,740
We have no indication
of the motive at this time.
221
00:11:39,865 --> 00:11:43,494
♪♪
222
00:11:43,577 --> 00:11:45,371
Gloria:
It was, like, unreal.
223
00:11:45,454 --> 00:11:46,914
It can't be true.
224
00:11:47,039 --> 00:11:50,000
It can't be possible
that this could happen.
225
00:11:50,084 --> 00:11:53,421
They were just very sweet,
very religious people,
226
00:11:53,546 --> 00:11:55,881
very family-minded people.
227
00:11:55,965 --> 00:11:58,384
Louise was a very sweet girl,
228
00:11:58,467 --> 00:12:01,887
and all our children
were similar ages.
229
00:12:02,012 --> 00:12:05,975
We would take the bus
and go to museums in New York
230
00:12:06,058 --> 00:12:09,979
and just hang out with the kids
and the husbands.
231
00:12:10,062 --> 00:12:12,356
Louise was a typical
Italian mother.
232
00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,651
She cooked. She did what she had
to do to take care of the house.
233
00:12:15,735 --> 00:12:16,986
Ronnie was Big Ronnie.
234
00:12:17,069 --> 00:12:19,029
He was the man of the house.
235
00:12:19,113 --> 00:12:21,866
Little John Matt was 9
when he died,
236
00:12:21,949 --> 00:12:25,119
and he was just your typical
9-year-old boy --
237
00:12:25,244 --> 00:12:26,620
just a sweet kid.
238
00:12:26,746 --> 00:12:32,084
Marc DeFeo --
he was into sports.
239
00:12:32,209 --> 00:12:35,588
Anthony: Marc and I were in
the same football league.
240
00:12:35,671 --> 00:12:39,008
Our parents got close together
watching the games.
241
00:12:39,091 --> 00:12:41,469
Marc and I used to play
in the driveway,
242
00:12:41,594 --> 00:12:43,095
on the bicycles,
and drive around
243
00:12:43,179 --> 00:12:45,556
and just have fun
and spend the night there.
244
00:12:45,639 --> 00:12:47,892
There was nothing odd.
245
00:12:47,975 --> 00:12:52,021
It was just a typical family.
246
00:12:52,104 --> 00:12:57,151
I remember that the little girl,
Allison, loved to do puzzles,
247
00:12:57,276 --> 00:12:59,570
and in her room,
248
00:12:59,653 --> 00:13:02,156
there was a puzzle
that she had been working on.
249
00:13:02,281 --> 00:13:04,033
Berry-Dee:
Allison was a sweet girl.
250
00:13:04,116 --> 00:13:07,286
People I met that knew her said
she was a little angel.
251
00:13:07,411 --> 00:13:10,623
There's not a bad word
came out of her mouth.
252
00:13:10,748 --> 00:13:13,959
But Dawn DeFeo --
she was more rebellious.
253
00:13:14,043 --> 00:13:16,170
Uruburu: Dawn --
she was a year older than I was.
254
00:13:16,295 --> 00:13:18,422
We first connected
on CYO Softball.
255
00:13:18,506 --> 00:13:20,299
We were in the softball
league together.
256
00:13:20,424 --> 00:13:23,636
She always had this nice smile.
She was always friendly.
257
00:13:23,761 --> 00:13:25,054
There were other girls who,
258
00:13:25,137 --> 00:13:27,097
because they were older
than you by a year,
259
00:13:27,181 --> 00:13:28,641
they didn't really want
to associate with you,
260
00:13:28,766 --> 00:13:30,476
but she was never like that.
261
00:13:30,601 --> 00:13:32,478
We were just 13-, 14-year-olds
262
00:13:32,561 --> 00:13:35,731
having slumber parties
and pool parties.
263
00:13:35,815 --> 00:13:38,734
There was nothing
out of the norm.
264
00:13:38,818 --> 00:13:41,028
Didio:
Against this wonderful setting,
265
00:13:41,153 --> 00:13:44,782
you've got six bodies
in body bags.
266
00:13:44,865 --> 00:13:46,325
It was unthinkable.
267
00:13:46,450 --> 00:13:50,246
And we said, "Well, there must
be a gunman or gunmen."
268
00:13:50,329 --> 00:13:53,332
Women, men, young, old --
who knows?
269
00:13:53,457 --> 00:13:54,792
We had no clue.
270
00:13:54,875 --> 00:13:56,502
Jordan:
Authorities were baffled
271
00:13:56,585 --> 00:14:00,798
at who would want this
picture-perfect family killed,
272
00:14:00,881 --> 00:14:02,466
but they were learning
that appearances
273
00:14:02,550 --> 00:14:04,385
can be very deceiving.
274
00:14:04,510 --> 00:14:06,345
Dr. Cohen: On the face of it,
this is a family
275
00:14:06,428 --> 00:14:09,390
that is very good
at keeping up appearances,
276
00:14:09,515 --> 00:14:12,226
and they were living
in bucolic Amityville.
277
00:14:12,351 --> 00:14:16,063
But this is a family
with secrets.
278
00:14:16,188 --> 00:14:17,481
People we talk to seem to feel
279
00:14:17,565 --> 00:14:19,692
that whatever was the motive
for this crime,
280
00:14:19,817 --> 00:14:21,235
it had something to do
with the family.
281
00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,906
The one surviving member
of the family, Ronnie DeFeo Jr.,
282
00:14:26,031 --> 00:14:29,118
says that his father
had enemies.
283
00:14:31,537 --> 00:14:33,122
Osuna: I remember
the neighbors telling me
284
00:14:33,205 --> 00:14:37,710
that Big Ronnie would boast
how he had a gun,
285
00:14:37,793 --> 00:14:39,545
how he had connections.
286
00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:41,046
Uruburu:
I mean, there was rumors
287
00:14:41,171 --> 00:14:43,132
that he was in the Mafia --
like, that was a thing --
288
00:14:43,215 --> 00:14:44,925
and because he had
a lot of money
289
00:14:45,050 --> 00:14:47,386
and he had big cars
and things.
290
00:14:47,511 --> 00:14:51,932
Big Ronnie DeFeo --
he was a strange guy.
291
00:14:52,057 --> 00:14:54,059
Osuna: At one point,
he thought he had ESP.
292
00:14:54,143 --> 00:14:56,729
He would wake family up
in the middle of the night,
293
00:14:56,854 --> 00:14:59,231
family who lived by the water,
saying, "You have to evacuate.
294
00:14:59,356 --> 00:15:02,067
There's a tsunami coming.
I feel it."
295
00:15:02,151 --> 00:15:04,361
He really had delusions.
296
00:15:04,445 --> 00:15:09,742
Gloria: And all of a sudden,
religion came into his life.
297
00:15:09,867 --> 00:15:11,785
He got this revelation.
298
00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:17,041
He was one with St. Joseph,
and he was a changed man.
299
00:15:17,124 --> 00:15:18,417
Osuna:
In front of the house,
300
00:15:18,542 --> 00:15:22,379
there are
a lot of Catholic statues.
301
00:15:22,463 --> 00:15:25,341
There is a St. Joseph
holding a Baby Jesus,
302
00:15:25,424 --> 00:15:28,177
and Big Ronnie
would come out,
303
00:15:28,260 --> 00:15:32,890
and he would pray in front
of that statue in his underwear.
304
00:15:32,973 --> 00:15:35,309
He was strange.
He told us one time
305
00:15:35,434 --> 00:15:37,937
that he was at the crucifixion,
306
00:15:38,020 --> 00:15:39,396
and what could we say?
307
00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,107
"Ha ha! If you were there,
you were there."
308
00:15:42,232 --> 00:15:43,859
He was a big presence.
309
00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:45,402
You know,
he had a big personality,
310
00:15:45,486 --> 00:15:47,279
and you were
a little afraid of him.
311
00:15:47,363 --> 00:15:50,074
He was a little scary 'cause
his voice was a little loud.
312
00:15:50,157 --> 00:15:52,576
And Big Ronnie's behavior
was more than just odd
313
00:15:52,660 --> 00:15:53,827
and off-putting.
314
00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:55,996
It was reported
that he was abusive
315
00:15:56,121 --> 00:15:57,748
to his wife and children.
316
00:15:57,831 --> 00:15:59,416
The DeFeos had a reputation.
317
00:15:59,500 --> 00:16:01,460
Martin: The problem is that
they don't get along sometimes.
318
00:16:01,585 --> 00:16:04,463
There's dissension
and there's conflict
319
00:16:04,546 --> 00:16:06,799
within the DeFeo family.
320
00:16:06,882 --> 00:16:11,720
Dr. Cohen: It was a very
chaotic, tumultuous household.
321
00:16:11,804 --> 00:16:14,640
Berry-Dee: Mr. DeFeo Sr.
was jealous about his wife.
322
00:16:14,723 --> 00:16:17,226
He thought she was having
an affair with the man
323
00:16:17,309 --> 00:16:19,228
who painted
the family portraits.
324
00:16:19,311 --> 00:16:24,692
He kind of wanted to be
in control of Louise.
325
00:16:24,817 --> 00:16:30,155
He wanted everyone just listen
to him and do what he says.
326
00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,324
There was a history
of violence there.
327
00:16:32,408 --> 00:16:34,702
Big Ronnie had
a horrible sickness,
328
00:16:34,827 --> 00:16:37,871
and it got worse and worse.
329
00:16:37,997 --> 00:16:40,749
Springer:
The old man used to beat her.
330
00:16:40,833 --> 00:16:42,584
She's wearing sunglasses
this big,
331
00:16:42,668 --> 00:16:45,170
and you could see,
you know, bruises
332
00:16:45,295 --> 00:16:47,339
on her arms and legs.
333
00:16:47,464 --> 00:16:50,676
Big Ronnie Sr. --
he was chauvinistic.
334
00:16:50,759 --> 00:16:52,720
He had a temper.
335
00:16:52,845 --> 00:16:54,513
And there are stories about
336
00:16:54,638 --> 00:16:56,807
how Louise
was coming up from the basement
337
00:16:56,890 --> 00:17:01,395
and she was carrying
a wash basket full of clothes.
338
00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,231
Aronson: And he punched her
right in the mouth,
339
00:17:04,356 --> 00:17:07,776
and she tumbled down the stairs,
340
00:17:07,860 --> 00:17:10,738
and he closed the door and said,
341
00:17:10,863 --> 00:17:12,406
"Well, she's not gonna bother us
342
00:17:12,531 --> 00:17:15,284
and we're not gonna have
any more noise now."
343
00:17:15,367 --> 00:17:19,580
And they sat down
and finished dinner.
344
00:17:19,705 --> 00:17:24,168
Dawn DeFeo had a problem,
specifically with her father.
345
00:17:24,251 --> 00:17:25,669
Osuna: Her relationship
with her parents
346
00:17:25,753 --> 00:17:29,423
towards the end of her life
was very tumultuous.
347
00:17:29,548 --> 00:17:32,009
Berry-Dee: She wanted to elope
with some guy,
348
00:17:32,092 --> 00:17:33,427
and this caused friction
349
00:17:33,552 --> 00:17:36,889
because her parents
didn't want her to leave.
350
00:17:37,014 --> 00:17:38,432
DeFeo:
My sister wanted to be free,
351
00:17:38,557 --> 00:17:42,561
and you couldn't be free
and be a DeFeo.
352
00:17:42,686 --> 00:17:44,730
None of us -- we were all like
a dog on a leash,
353
00:17:44,855 --> 00:17:47,858
everybody in that house.
Nobody could be free.
354
00:17:47,941 --> 00:17:51,653
The place was a powder keg
waiting to explode.
355
00:17:51,737 --> 00:17:54,198
Something was bound
to happen in that house.
356
00:17:54,281 --> 00:17:57,409
If it wasn't for his anger,
hate, and violence,
357
00:17:57,493 --> 00:18:00,704
the DeFeos
would still be alive.
358
00:18:00,788 --> 00:18:06,460
♪♪
359
00:18:08,670 --> 00:18:11,632
♪♪
360
00:18:11,757 --> 00:18:13,801
Jordan: Authorities swarmed
the quiet community
361
00:18:13,926 --> 00:18:15,344
of Amityville, New York,
362
00:18:15,427 --> 00:18:17,763
after the bodies of six members
of the DeFeo family
363
00:18:17,846 --> 00:18:24,228
were found by the sole survivor,
the eldest son, Ronnie DeFeo Jr.
364
00:18:24,311 --> 00:18:26,313
Giambra: It was 1974,
365
00:18:26,438 --> 00:18:31,068
and Amityville was
a nice, quaint little village
366
00:18:31,151 --> 00:18:33,320
and was all over the news
367
00:18:33,445 --> 00:18:36,281
that these six people
had been murdered.
368
00:18:36,406 --> 00:18:38,325
Martin: Ronnie DeFeo Jr. --
369
00:18:38,450 --> 00:18:40,452
two brothers,
two sisters of his,
370
00:18:40,536 --> 00:18:43,330
mother, and father all gone.
371
00:18:43,455 --> 00:18:45,624
DeFeo: I knew something bad
was gonna happen
372
00:18:45,749 --> 00:18:47,000
to my mother and father.
373
00:18:47,126 --> 00:18:48,460
I didn't know when it was
going to happen,
374
00:18:48,585 --> 00:18:49,920
I didn't know who
was gonna do it,
375
00:18:50,003 --> 00:18:55,134
but I can say that
I knew something was coming.
376
00:18:55,217 --> 00:18:57,427
Scott:
When the murders were uncovered,
377
00:18:57,511 --> 00:18:59,680
Ron was pulled in
and questioned,
378
00:18:59,805 --> 00:19:04,143
and he said that
this was a mob hit.
379
00:19:04,226 --> 00:19:06,937
Genis: At first,
Ronnie blamed the Mafia.
380
00:19:07,020 --> 00:19:10,149
He said, "Yeah, you know,
my dad was in the mob,
381
00:19:10,232 --> 00:19:13,527
and they rubbed out
the whole family."
382
00:19:13,652 --> 00:19:15,863
Osuna:
Folks in Amityville knew
383
00:19:15,988 --> 00:19:17,990
Ronald DeFeo Sr.'s family --
384
00:19:18,115 --> 00:19:19,950
they were connected to the mob.
385
00:19:20,033 --> 00:19:26,206
My father was involved with big,
big people in organized crime.
386
00:19:26,331 --> 00:19:29,168
One of the people
is Peter DeFeo, my uncle.
387
00:19:29,251 --> 00:19:31,753
♪♪
388
00:19:31,837 --> 00:19:35,757
Didio: One of Ronnie's uncles,
Pete DeFeo,
389
00:19:35,841 --> 00:19:38,010
was reputed to be a member
390
00:19:38,093 --> 00:19:40,345
of the Genovese crime family,
391
00:19:40,429 --> 00:19:44,308
and, again, putting this
in the context of the times,
392
00:19:44,391 --> 00:19:46,935
back in the mid-'70s,
393
00:19:47,019 --> 00:19:49,062
early '80s in New York,
394
00:19:49,188 --> 00:19:52,274
you had a lot of mob hits
going on.
395
00:19:52,357 --> 00:19:54,693
And there was speculation
that Louise's family,
396
00:19:54,776 --> 00:19:58,530
the Brigantes,
also had ties to the Mafia.
397
00:19:58,655 --> 00:20:00,032
Martin:
This is the rumor,
398
00:20:00,157 --> 00:20:01,700
and these rumors
keep swirling around
399
00:20:01,825 --> 00:20:04,536
that Ronnie's grandfather,
Mr. Brigante,
400
00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:07,581
was somehow tied to the mob.
401
00:20:07,706 --> 00:20:09,917
Osuna:
Michael Brigante Sr.
402
00:20:10,042 --> 00:20:12,294
was connected to
organized crime.
403
00:20:12,377 --> 00:20:14,880
He owned a Buick car dealership.
404
00:20:15,005 --> 00:20:17,382
They did dirty work for the mob.
405
00:20:17,507 --> 00:20:20,219
Brigante Sr. employed
his son-in-law,
406
00:20:20,344 --> 00:20:22,179
Ronald Sr.
407
00:20:22,262 --> 00:20:25,724
My father works
for Mike Brigante Sr.,
408
00:20:25,849 --> 00:20:29,519
who is my grandfather,
my mother's father.
409
00:20:29,603 --> 00:20:33,190
He owned a Buick agency,
a Buick dealership.
410
00:20:33,273 --> 00:20:39,404
My father was the boss of the
service end of the dealership.
411
00:20:39,488 --> 00:20:41,865
It was a legitimate business.
412
00:20:41,949 --> 00:20:44,493
They didn't do anything wrong
in the Buick dealership.
413
00:20:44,576 --> 00:20:46,578
They took it outside.
414
00:20:46,662 --> 00:20:48,038
Ronald Sr.
415
00:20:48,121 --> 00:20:51,458
Was in charge of the ledgers
for the dealership,
416
00:20:51,583 --> 00:20:53,752
and we're talking
the unofficial accounts,
417
00:20:53,877 --> 00:20:57,756
where it showed all the monies,
all the transactions,
418
00:20:57,839 --> 00:21:00,217
all the dirty hands,
and so forth.
419
00:21:00,300 --> 00:21:02,761
He would often take
those books home
420
00:21:02,886 --> 00:21:06,932
and cook them up
for the dealership.
421
00:21:07,057 --> 00:21:09,601
Butch worked there, as well.
422
00:21:09,685 --> 00:21:13,355
Dr. Cohen: And DeFeo
would do work for the mob,
423
00:21:13,438 --> 00:21:15,440
delivering money
and delivering packages
424
00:21:15,524 --> 00:21:16,733
and things like that.
425
00:21:16,817 --> 00:21:19,278
DeFeo:
I did whatever I had to do.
426
00:21:19,361 --> 00:21:21,321
Whatever they told me to do,
I did.
427
00:21:21,446 --> 00:21:25,784
And I was paid money
for doing it.
428
00:21:25,867 --> 00:21:28,495
Didio: There had been
some secret tape recordings --
429
00:21:28,620 --> 00:21:30,914
you know,
authorized wire taps --
430
00:21:30,998 --> 00:21:32,332
by the RICO squad --
431
00:21:32,457 --> 00:21:34,293
the racket boys,
if you will --
432
00:21:34,418 --> 00:21:38,422
that involved the Brigante
Buick dealership.
433
00:21:38,505 --> 00:21:40,966
Ronnie Jr. was the subject
434
00:21:41,091 --> 00:21:42,426
of many of those conversations
435
00:21:42,509 --> 00:21:45,637
between Michael Brigante Sr.,
his grandfather,
436
00:21:45,762 --> 00:21:49,391
and his friends, associates,
et cetera,
437
00:21:49,474 --> 00:21:51,560
who talked about, very openly,
438
00:21:51,643 --> 00:21:55,605
"Oh, my God, that kid,"
meaning Ronnie,
439
00:21:55,689 --> 00:21:58,358
"he could hang us all
with what he knows."
440
00:21:58,483 --> 00:22:01,153
♪♪
441
00:22:01,278 --> 00:22:03,613
There was also talk at the time
442
00:22:03,697 --> 00:22:06,450
that Ronald DeFeo Sr.
443
00:22:06,533 --> 00:22:09,036
had also been skimming
some money off the side
444
00:22:09,161 --> 00:22:11,455
from the Buick dealership.
445
00:22:11,538 --> 00:22:15,000
Osuna: Ronald Sr.
embezzled money from the mob.
446
00:22:15,083 --> 00:22:17,669
At the time of the murders,
in November of '74,
447
00:22:17,753 --> 00:22:20,464
things were really going bad
for Big Ronnie.
448
00:22:20,547 --> 00:22:23,091
Brigante was thinking
very heavily
449
00:22:23,175 --> 00:22:24,843
of closing the dealership,
450
00:22:24,926 --> 00:22:28,972
so that meant Big Ronnie
had to do one big score.
451
00:22:29,056 --> 00:22:30,849
He was trying to work with Butch
452
00:22:30,974 --> 00:22:34,061
on embezzling as
much money as possible.
453
00:22:34,186 --> 00:22:36,021
Didio: Several weeks
before the murders,
454
00:22:36,104 --> 00:22:39,358
$20,000 bank deposit
that Ronnie Jr.
455
00:22:39,441 --> 00:22:43,487
and one of the other employees
were supposed to be making
456
00:22:43,570 --> 00:22:46,365
had suddenly disappeared.
457
00:22:46,448 --> 00:22:48,367
Osuna:
That would be a death sentence.
458
00:22:48,450 --> 00:22:49,993
♪♪
459
00:22:50,077 --> 00:22:53,538
Police immediately put Ron DeFeo
in protective custody,
460
00:22:53,663 --> 00:22:55,040
fearful if they got
the whole family,
461
00:22:55,123 --> 00:22:57,042
they would get him, as well.
462
00:22:57,125 --> 00:22:59,753
They didn't really know
if this was a mob hit or not,
463
00:22:59,878 --> 00:23:01,880
and they weren't
taking a chance.
464
00:23:01,963 --> 00:23:03,298
♪♪
465
00:23:03,382 --> 00:23:06,301
Man: Today police combed the
DeFeos' handsome 3-story house
466
00:23:06,385 --> 00:23:07,552
for clues.
467
00:23:07,636 --> 00:23:09,763
Osuna:
The rifle used in the murders --
468
00:23:09,888 --> 00:23:12,432
it is so deafening.
[ Gunshot ]
469
00:23:12,557 --> 00:23:14,726
Why didn't somebody wake up?
[ Gunshot ]
470
00:23:14,851 --> 00:23:16,895
Which is another big
mystery here.
471
00:23:17,020 --> 00:23:22,943
♪♪
472
00:23:24,986 --> 00:23:29,950
♪♪
473
00:23:30,075 --> 00:23:33,328
Welcome back to
"Very Scary People".
474
00:23:33,412 --> 00:23:36,665
The mystery about who committed
the execution-style murders
475
00:23:36,748 --> 00:23:38,083
of the DeFeo family --
476
00:23:38,208 --> 00:23:40,752
mother, father,
and four of their children --
477
00:23:40,877 --> 00:23:43,547
consumed the town of Amityville.
478
00:23:43,630 --> 00:23:45,674
Was it a robbery gone wrong?
479
00:23:45,757 --> 00:23:47,509
Could it have been a mob hit
480
00:23:47,592 --> 00:23:51,430
or a family vendetta?
481
00:23:51,513 --> 00:23:53,515
♪♪
482
00:23:53,598 --> 00:23:55,934
[ Gunshot ]
483
00:23:56,059 --> 00:23:57,519
[ Gunshot ]
484
00:23:57,602 --> 00:23:59,187
[ Gunshot ]
485
00:23:59,271 --> 00:24:01,815
Man: They were shots that left
six members of one family dead
486
00:24:01,940 --> 00:24:04,651
in this charming
Dutch colonial home.
487
00:24:04,776 --> 00:24:09,573
And there's only one
surviving member of the family.
488
00:24:09,656 --> 00:24:13,410
Osuna: Ronald DeFeo Jr. --
his nickname was "Butch,"
489
00:24:13,493 --> 00:24:16,496
and he was the oldest.
490
00:24:16,621 --> 00:24:18,206
He was the firstborn.
491
00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:20,625
He loved his mother very much,
492
00:24:20,709 --> 00:24:23,712
and Louise --
from everything I've learned,
493
00:24:23,795 --> 00:24:25,839
Butch was her pride and joy.
494
00:24:25,964 --> 00:24:29,759
Symons: Ronnie was quiet,
never said a whole lot.
495
00:24:29,843 --> 00:24:34,473
He gave you the sense
that he was a tough guy,
496
00:24:34,556 --> 00:24:37,476
but never threatening,
never violent.
497
00:24:37,601 --> 00:24:39,644
Osuna:
The police took Ronnie Jr.
498
00:24:39,728 --> 00:24:41,146
into protective custody
499
00:24:41,229 --> 00:24:44,191
and took him
to the police headquarters
500
00:24:44,316 --> 00:24:46,902
to provide his statement.
501
00:24:46,985 --> 00:24:48,987
Man: Police have been
questioning the son, Ronald,
502
00:24:49,112 --> 00:24:52,616
and now say he is being
"safeguarded."
503
00:24:52,699 --> 00:24:55,994
DeFeo: I was scared!
504
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,455
My whole family is dead!
505
00:24:58,538 --> 00:25:00,165
Turner:
I remember talking to a cop,
506
00:25:00,248 --> 00:25:03,251
and he told me that
there was some speculation
507
00:25:03,335 --> 00:25:05,295
that it was a mob hit.
508
00:25:05,378 --> 00:25:06,838
Didio: Ronald DeFeo Jr.
509
00:25:06,922 --> 00:25:10,342
was claiming that somebody
was out to get the family.
510
00:25:10,425 --> 00:25:14,179
There was talk of these killers
coming from Brooklyn.
511
00:25:14,304 --> 00:25:17,974
♪♪
512
00:25:18,058 --> 00:25:22,270
But I immediately thought, "No,
they wouldn't kill the kids."
513
00:25:22,354 --> 00:25:25,565
Osuna: Organized crime
did not condone the execution
514
00:25:25,690 --> 00:25:27,234
of small children,
515
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,112
so that would've been
a cardinal sin for them.
516
00:25:31,196 --> 00:25:32,697
And there would be
plenty of ways,
517
00:25:32,781 --> 00:25:34,658
if they wanted
to send a message,
518
00:25:34,741 --> 00:25:38,370
to do that without
killing those kids.
519
00:25:38,495 --> 00:25:40,539
No. It doesn't stack up.
520
00:25:40,664 --> 00:25:45,919
♪♪
521
00:25:46,044 --> 00:25:49,047
Osuna: Police had continued
on their investigation.
522
00:25:49,172 --> 00:25:51,800
Man: Today police combed the
DeFeos' handsome 3-story house
523
00:25:51,883 --> 00:25:54,803
for clues while divers explored
the backyard swimming pool
524
00:25:54,886 --> 00:25:57,931
for the still unfound
murder weapon.
525
00:25:58,056 --> 00:26:00,058
Jordan: The day after the bodies
were discovered,
526
00:26:00,141 --> 00:26:03,228
the police were looking
for anything and everything
527
00:26:03,311 --> 00:26:05,480
that could point them
in the right direction
528
00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:08,900
for the suspect
and the motive.
529
00:26:08,984 --> 00:26:10,527
Dr. Cohen:
The first thing you're gonna do
530
00:26:10,610 --> 00:26:12,195
is look at the crime scene
531
00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:17,325
and try to understand
what occurred in the house
532
00:26:17,409 --> 00:26:22,831
and what may have been the
psychology of the perpetrator.
533
00:26:22,914 --> 00:26:25,917
You have an entire family
that was killed.
534
00:26:26,001 --> 00:26:28,920
All the victims
were found in bed.
535
00:26:29,004 --> 00:26:32,674
And there's no evidence
of a struggle.
536
00:26:32,757 --> 00:26:35,594
Turner:
The nature of the shootings
537
00:26:35,719 --> 00:26:39,014
was shooting in the back in bed.
538
00:26:39,097 --> 00:26:40,849
[ Gunshots ]
539
00:26:40,932 --> 00:26:45,478
It had to be somebody
who knew the house really well,
540
00:26:45,604 --> 00:26:48,273
'cause they were
on different floors,
541
00:26:48,356 --> 00:26:50,734
in different rooms.
542
00:26:50,817 --> 00:26:53,820
Dr. Cohen: Typically,
if there's a home invasion,
543
00:26:53,945 --> 00:26:57,449
there is some alarm
raised in the house.
544
00:26:57,574 --> 00:26:58,950
I think that that --
545
00:26:59,075 --> 00:27:00,493
The fact that they were all
in their beds
546
00:27:00,619 --> 00:27:02,120
does raise the question
547
00:27:02,245 --> 00:27:05,582
of whether it really was
somebody who was known to them.
548
00:27:05,665 --> 00:27:07,626
[ Gunshot ]
549
00:27:07,709 --> 00:27:09,586
Jordan:
The medical examiner determined
550
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:11,171
that all six victims
had been killed
551
00:27:11,296 --> 00:27:14,299
in the early morning hours
of November 13th.
552
00:27:14,382 --> 00:27:15,634
The time of death --
553
00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:19,471
16 to 18 hours
before they were discovered.
554
00:27:19,596 --> 00:27:22,307
Didio:
At the time of the murder,
555
00:27:22,390 --> 00:27:25,685
somewhere between 3:00 a.m.
556
00:27:25,810 --> 00:27:27,479
3:15, 3:30...
557
00:27:27,604 --> 00:27:30,023
[ Dog howling ]
558
00:27:30,148 --> 00:27:32,651
...the family's sheepdog
was howling.
559
00:27:32,734 --> 00:27:34,152
[ Howling continues ]
560
00:27:34,277 --> 00:27:38,323
The teenage boy two doors away
told investigators
561
00:27:38,448 --> 00:27:41,493
he heard the dog howling,
562
00:27:41,576 --> 00:27:43,495
which he thought
was a little odd.
563
00:27:43,620 --> 00:27:46,498
[ Howling continues ]
564
00:27:46,581 --> 00:27:50,585
And the cause of death
was gunshot wounds from a rifle.
565
00:27:50,669 --> 00:27:52,671
According to the coroner,
566
00:27:52,796 --> 00:27:55,215
it was a very high-powered,
567
00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:58,635
.35-caliber Marlin rifle.
568
00:27:58,718 --> 00:28:00,470
It was a cowboy gun.
[ Gunshot ]
569
00:28:00,553 --> 00:28:02,180
It is so deafening.
570
00:28:02,263 --> 00:28:04,265
Turner:
I remember thinking, "Geez.
571
00:28:04,349 --> 00:28:07,060
Somebody had to walk around
the house shooting people.
572
00:28:07,185 --> 00:28:09,187
Why didn't somebody wake up?"
573
00:28:09,312 --> 00:28:10,355
[ Gunshot ]
574
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,816
There were questions
about whether the victims
575
00:28:12,899 --> 00:28:17,570
had been drugged
before they went to sleep.
576
00:28:17,696 --> 00:28:19,280
Didio:
But according to the coroner
577
00:28:19,364 --> 00:28:21,408
and the autopsy reports,
they were not drugged...
578
00:28:21,533 --> 00:28:22,701
[ Gunshot ]
579
00:28:22,784 --> 00:28:25,537
...which is
another big mystery here.
580
00:28:25,662 --> 00:28:29,124
Why didn't anybody
hear anything?
581
00:28:29,207 --> 00:28:32,210
♪♪
582
00:28:32,335 --> 00:28:34,671
Scott: More intense questioning
of Ron DeFeo.
583
00:28:34,754 --> 00:28:37,549
DeFeo: Somebody else was in the
house, ran out of the house.
584
00:28:37,674 --> 00:28:41,344
It turns out that one person
did hear the gunshots.
585
00:28:41,428 --> 00:28:47,267
♪♪
586
00:28:49,894 --> 00:28:52,230
[ Siren wailing,
police radio chatter ]
587
00:28:52,355 --> 00:28:54,357
♪♪
588
00:28:54,441 --> 00:28:55,608
Uruburu: It was terrible.
589
00:28:55,734 --> 00:28:59,237
Six people were shot dead
in their bed.
590
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,031
♪♪
591
00:29:02,115 --> 00:29:06,327
On the night
of November 13, 1974,
592
00:29:06,411 --> 00:29:10,373
all the bodies were found shot,
all at point-blank range.
593
00:29:10,457 --> 00:29:13,168
None of the family members
was awakened
594
00:29:13,251 --> 00:29:16,880
by the explosive burst
of gunfire throughout the house.
595
00:29:16,963 --> 00:29:19,716
Autopsies show that they
had not been drugged.
596
00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:24,262
Why didn't anyone hear
a gunshot?
597
00:29:24,387 --> 00:29:25,722
[ Gunshot ]
598
00:29:25,805 --> 00:29:28,892
♪♪
599
00:29:28,975 --> 00:29:30,852
Jordan:
But it turns out that one person
600
00:29:30,935 --> 00:29:32,604
did hear the gunshots.
601
00:29:32,729 --> 00:29:35,440
Ronnie DeFeo Jr.
now tells the police
602
00:29:35,565 --> 00:29:37,609
that he was there at the house
603
00:29:37,734 --> 00:29:39,986
when his family was killed.
604
00:29:40,111 --> 00:29:42,447
Didio: So, Ronnie
had been drinking that night.
605
00:29:42,530 --> 00:29:45,366
He was watching TV
down in the basement.
606
00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:47,494
He had been taking drugs.
607
00:29:47,619 --> 00:29:49,037
Scott:
He told the police
608
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,080
that people broke
into the house.
609
00:29:51,164 --> 00:29:55,668
He was in the basement,
and he heard muffled sounds.
610
00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:57,128
DeFeo:
Didn't sound like a gunshot.
611
00:29:57,212 --> 00:30:00,465
Sounded like a backfire
on a car, but muffled.
612
00:30:00,590 --> 00:30:03,510
Somebody else was in the house,
ran out of the house,
613
00:30:03,635 --> 00:30:06,763
but I couldn't catch him
when he ran out the front door.
614
00:30:06,846 --> 00:30:08,807
♪♪
615
00:30:08,890 --> 00:30:10,391
Dr. Cohen:
When you're talking to someone
616
00:30:10,475 --> 00:30:15,188
who has a very unstable account
of what happened,
617
00:30:15,313 --> 00:30:17,524
you want to go back again
and again
618
00:30:17,649 --> 00:30:20,401
to try and see how
he's going to respond,
619
00:30:20,485 --> 00:30:22,987
what his explanations
are going to be,
620
00:30:23,112 --> 00:30:27,867
and to also focus in
on the discrepancies.
621
00:30:27,992 --> 00:30:30,203
Scott: More intense questioning
of Ron DeFeo,
622
00:30:30,328 --> 00:30:36,084
and then another story that
someone came into the house,
623
00:30:36,167 --> 00:30:37,961
they pulled him
along with them,
624
00:30:38,044 --> 00:30:40,338
and they shot everyone
while he was present.
625
00:30:40,463 --> 00:30:41,631
[ Gunshot ]
626
00:30:41,714 --> 00:30:45,260
DeFeo:
I knew then I was set up.
627
00:30:45,343 --> 00:30:48,638
I was gonna be the scapegoat
for everybody.
628
00:30:48,721 --> 00:30:50,223
Ronnie DeFeo Jr.
629
00:30:50,348 --> 00:30:53,226
was not the most stable
of individuals.
630
00:30:53,351 --> 00:30:54,602
Uruburu: There was
something odd about him.
631
00:30:54,686 --> 00:30:56,729
He wasn't the warm,
friendly older brother
632
00:30:56,855 --> 00:30:59,107
who comes over and asks
if you need help or anything.
633
00:30:59,190 --> 00:31:03,236
He just was this loner,
and not in a healthy way.
634
00:31:03,361 --> 00:31:07,073
He quit school
and didn't really work.
635
00:31:07,198 --> 00:31:11,911
He drank a lot, hung out
in the neighborhood bar.
636
00:31:12,036 --> 00:31:17,458
Didio: He was known as sort of
a troublemaker around the town.
637
00:31:17,542 --> 00:31:19,919
He borrowed money from people,
didn't pay it back,
638
00:31:20,044 --> 00:31:21,337
and bullied people.
639
00:31:21,421 --> 00:31:23,464
He was a heavy substance abuser
640
00:31:23,548 --> 00:31:25,675
starting from the age
of 15 or 16.
641
00:31:25,758 --> 00:31:27,385
DeFeo: Every day, I would get
high. I used heroin.
642
00:31:27,510 --> 00:31:29,137
I was using a lot of heroin
back then.
643
00:31:29,220 --> 00:31:31,764
I was drinking, too,
excessively --
644
00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:33,391
scotch on the rocks.
645
00:31:33,516 --> 00:31:36,728
Scott: His parents --
they took him to a psychiatrist
646
00:31:36,811 --> 00:31:38,646
in hopes
of calming him down.
647
00:31:38,730 --> 00:31:40,064
That didn't work.
648
00:31:40,148 --> 00:31:42,817
So his parents lavished him
with gifts.
649
00:31:42,901 --> 00:31:44,903
Didio:
They did not spare the rod,
650
00:31:44,986 --> 00:31:47,947
but they continued
to spoil the child.
651
00:31:48,072 --> 00:31:52,327
He had access to an allowance of
several hundred dollars a week.
652
00:31:52,410 --> 00:31:53,995
Aronson:
Ronnie would walk around
653
00:31:54,078 --> 00:31:57,248
with a couple thousand dollars
in his pocket.
654
00:31:57,373 --> 00:32:00,752
Scott: They bought him
a $14,000 speedboat.
655
00:32:00,877 --> 00:32:03,046
But that didn't settle Ron.
656
00:32:03,129 --> 00:32:06,174
He was an angry young man.
657
00:32:06,257 --> 00:32:09,260
He also had a stockpile
658
00:32:09,344 --> 00:32:12,972
of several weapons in the house.
659
00:32:13,097 --> 00:32:15,099
♪♪
660
00:32:15,224 --> 00:32:17,769
Aronson:
They have Ronnie in custody
661
00:32:17,852 --> 00:32:20,104
just to talk about the murder,
662
00:32:20,188 --> 00:32:23,024
and, very soon,
they begin to wonder.
663
00:32:23,107 --> 00:32:28,112
He threw out a lot of
wild theories.
664
00:32:28,237 --> 00:32:31,991
Dr. Cohen: He makes
some unconvincing excuses,
665
00:32:32,116 --> 00:32:34,285
but what is very significant
666
00:32:34,369 --> 00:32:38,414
is he seems to be justifying
the death of his family.
667
00:32:38,498 --> 00:32:42,627
That does raise a lot
of red flags.
668
00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:46,089
He said that he discovered
his mother had had an affair
669
00:32:46,172 --> 00:32:49,217
and that he despised her
for that.
670
00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:52,303
He also told the police
that his father
671
00:32:52,428 --> 00:32:55,306
was making him work too hard.
672
00:32:55,390 --> 00:32:57,684
He complained that his brothers
673
00:32:57,809 --> 00:32:59,560
were little pigs
in the bathroom.
674
00:32:59,644 --> 00:33:03,106
Aronson: They say, "What do you
think about your sister Dawn?"
675
00:33:03,189 --> 00:33:07,193
"Dawn, that F'ing bitch" --
676
00:33:07,318 --> 00:33:10,029
that's how he described her.
677
00:33:10,154 --> 00:33:12,907
That's very striking
for somebody to say that
678
00:33:12,991 --> 00:33:15,451
when their family
has just been murdered.
679
00:33:15,535 --> 00:33:18,621
♪♪
680
00:33:18,705 --> 00:33:22,542
Gloria: Louise used to tell me
that Butchy was bad,
681
00:33:22,667 --> 00:33:25,003
but I didn't know
what she meant.
682
00:33:25,086 --> 00:33:28,172
But she said,
"No, Butchy is bad."
683
00:33:28,256 --> 00:33:31,801
I think he had more troubles
than we thought,
684
00:33:31,884 --> 00:33:33,011
than they thought.
685
00:33:33,136 --> 00:33:37,849
♪♪
686
00:33:37,974 --> 00:33:43,563
♪♪
687
00:33:46,232 --> 00:33:49,986
Symons:
I first heard about this case,
688
00:33:50,069 --> 00:33:51,654
about Ronnie DeFeo,
689
00:33:51,738 --> 00:33:55,283
on the 11:00 news --
690
00:33:55,366 --> 00:33:58,453
that his family
had been murdered
691
00:33:58,536 --> 00:34:02,373
and that Ronnie was being held
in protective custody.
692
00:34:02,457 --> 00:34:04,959
What about Ronald DeFeo,
the son, the surviving son?
693
00:34:05,043 --> 00:34:06,544
Ronald is being safeguarded
694
00:34:06,669 --> 00:34:09,047
by the Suffolk County Police
at this time.
695
00:34:09,172 --> 00:34:10,715
Man: Investigators say,
without explanation,
696
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,092
that they now feel young DeFeo
was in the house
697
00:34:13,217 --> 00:34:14,552
at the time of the murders,
698
00:34:14,635 --> 00:34:16,888
but they're not yet
considering him a suspect.
699
00:34:16,971 --> 00:34:21,768
It came to my mind that he has
to be a person of interest.
700
00:34:21,893 --> 00:34:24,479
♪♪
701
00:34:24,562 --> 00:34:26,981
Dr. Cohen: Talking about
the death of his family,
702
00:34:27,065 --> 00:34:29,567
there is such a lack of emotion,
703
00:34:29,650 --> 00:34:32,987
and he also is so preoccupied
with the justification
704
00:34:33,071 --> 00:34:34,238
for the killings.
705
00:34:34,363 --> 00:34:36,115
He describes the father
as abusive,
706
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:38,701
he describes the mother
as checked out.
707
00:34:38,785 --> 00:34:42,371
Dawn -- he talks about her
with clear hostility.
708
00:34:42,455 --> 00:34:44,582
Allison, Marc, and John --
709
00:34:44,707 --> 00:34:47,919
when he talks about them,
it's very superficial.
710
00:34:48,044 --> 00:34:51,005
There's very little sadness
about their deaths,
711
00:34:51,089 --> 00:34:53,883
which is what you usually hear
when someone talks about someone
712
00:34:53,966 --> 00:34:57,136
that they have real love for
and that they're grieving for,
713
00:34:57,261 --> 00:35:02,058
which, to me, makes it certainly
within the realm of possibility
714
00:35:02,141 --> 00:35:05,228
that he killed them.
715
00:35:05,311 --> 00:35:07,313
Jordan:
While searching the DeFeo home,
716
00:35:07,438 --> 00:35:11,609
police find a box for a Marlin
.35-caliber rifle,
717
00:35:11,692 --> 00:35:14,278
along with boxes
of Remington shells,
718
00:35:14,362 --> 00:35:18,116
all of which belong
to Ronnie DeFeo Jr.
719
00:35:18,199 --> 00:35:21,577
And within the first 48 hours,
720
00:35:21,661 --> 00:35:24,622
the focus
had quickly shifted to him
721
00:35:24,747 --> 00:35:26,374
as the chief suspect.
722
00:35:26,457 --> 00:35:28,334
Osuna: They read him
his Miranda rights,
723
00:35:28,459 --> 00:35:31,129
and they officially told him
that he was the suspect
724
00:35:31,254 --> 00:35:32,755
of his family's murder.
725
00:35:32,839 --> 00:35:35,800
♪♪
726
00:35:35,883 --> 00:35:39,345
Now a suspect, police switch
from interviewing Ronnie Jr.
727
00:35:39,470 --> 00:35:41,347
to interrogating him.
728
00:35:45,393 --> 00:35:47,395
Aronson: And different police
talk to him,
729
00:35:47,478 --> 00:35:52,316
and the head of homicide,
Robert Dunn, is the first one,
730
00:35:52,441 --> 00:35:55,695
and then Dennis Rafferty.
731
00:35:55,820 --> 00:35:58,531
He was the detective
who was an expert
732
00:35:58,656 --> 00:36:03,411
at extracting confessions
from people.
733
00:36:03,494 --> 00:36:06,706
I just tried to warm up to him,
really, to, uh --
734
00:36:06,831 --> 00:36:09,667
talk to him,
try to make him comfortable,
735
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:12,670
and proceeded
to interrogate him.
736
00:36:12,795 --> 00:36:15,173
Osuna: Several detectives
took a turn on Butch,
737
00:36:15,298 --> 00:36:17,425
and, finally, the key detectives
738
00:36:17,508 --> 00:36:20,553
were able to get Butch
to cooperate.
739
00:36:20,678 --> 00:36:22,430
Jordan:
Ronnie Jr. was vacillating
740
00:36:22,513 --> 00:36:23,890
between telling the police
741
00:36:24,015 --> 00:36:25,766
that he had no idea
what happened to his family
742
00:36:25,850 --> 00:36:28,644
and then switching his story to
he was there
743
00:36:28,728 --> 00:36:32,857
and the killers forced him to
watch his family being killed.
744
00:36:32,940 --> 00:36:36,110
Aronson: And here's Ronnie.
He's saying other people did it,
745
00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:39,113
taking him through his house,
746
00:36:39,197 --> 00:36:41,574
room by room,
747
00:36:41,699 --> 00:36:45,119
telling them other people
did the shooting.
748
00:36:45,203 --> 00:36:50,208
But the details he had
were so precise.
749
00:36:50,291 --> 00:36:54,212
And, finally, Rafferty says
to him,
750
00:36:54,337 --> 00:36:57,215
"You did it, Ronnie,
didn't you?"
751
00:36:57,298 --> 00:37:01,219
And Ronnie says,
"Yes, I did it."
752
00:37:01,302 --> 00:37:05,806
As far as I'm concerned, I got
to them before they got to me.
753
00:37:05,890 --> 00:37:08,726
♪♪
754
00:37:08,809 --> 00:37:12,647
Gloria: Louise used to tell me
that Butchy was bad,
755
00:37:12,730 --> 00:37:15,107
but I didn't know
what she meant.
756
00:37:15,233 --> 00:37:19,237
But she said,
"No, Butchy is bad."
757
00:37:23,991 --> 00:37:27,245
I think he had more troubles
than we thought,
758
00:37:27,328 --> 00:37:28,579
than they thought.
759
00:37:28,663 --> 00:37:31,791
Scott: At 17,
he was into drugs --
760
00:37:31,916 --> 00:37:33,584
LSD, heroin,
761
00:37:33,668 --> 00:37:35,503
a fifth of scotch every day.
762
00:37:35,586 --> 00:37:38,589
He was always at odds
with his father, Ronald Sr.
763
00:37:38,714 --> 00:37:41,425
Dr. Cohen:
His father was a violent person,
764
00:37:41,509 --> 00:37:45,012
and Ronald DeFeo was subject
to a lot of abuse
765
00:37:45,096 --> 00:37:46,639
starting at a very young age.
766
00:37:46,764 --> 00:37:48,975
There's evidence that even
as an infant,
767
00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:50,518
as an 18-month-old,
768
00:37:50,601 --> 00:37:52,979
his father would whack him
on the head
769
00:37:53,104 --> 00:37:54,647
to stop him from crying.
770
00:37:54,772 --> 00:37:56,399
DeFeo:
He's a violent man.
771
00:37:56,482 --> 00:37:58,567
I got beat up since the day
I was born.
772
00:37:58,651 --> 00:38:00,903
I mean, I know they told me
he took me out of a high chair
773
00:38:00,987 --> 00:38:03,030
and he threw me because
I took a bowl of spaghetti
774
00:38:03,114 --> 00:38:05,116
and poured it over my head.
775
00:38:05,241 --> 00:38:07,743
Since I was born,
it never stopped.
776
00:38:07,827 --> 00:38:10,788
Berry-Dee: You've got
a very domineering father
777
00:38:10,913 --> 00:38:13,666
and a mother that's caught
in the middle of this mess.
778
00:38:13,791 --> 00:38:15,668
Osuna:
Butch started blaming his mother
779
00:38:15,793 --> 00:38:19,922
for allowing his father to get
out of control with the abuse.
780
00:38:20,006 --> 00:38:23,759
He blamed her more than
the sickness that his father had
781
00:38:23,843 --> 00:38:26,220
because she allowed it
to continue.
782
00:38:26,304 --> 00:38:30,141
Children of an abusive father
will often blame the mother
783
00:38:30,266 --> 00:38:32,143
for not having protected them
784
00:38:32,268 --> 00:38:36,647
or view her as an accomplice
just by virtue of her passivity
785
00:38:36,731 --> 00:38:38,858
and her denial
of what's going on.
786
00:38:38,983 --> 00:38:41,235
Jordan:
After Ronnie Jr. became older,
787
00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:43,571
his resentment
against his mother grew,
788
00:38:43,654 --> 00:38:46,115
and he began to fight back
against his father.
789
00:38:46,198 --> 00:38:48,993
Martin: There's fighting.
Ronnie and his father fight,
790
00:38:49,118 --> 00:38:52,288
and he gets crazy
and he's got a horrible temper.
791
00:38:52,371 --> 00:38:54,415
Didio:
Ronnie Sr. and Ronnie Jr.
792
00:38:54,498 --> 00:38:59,462
had a very contentious,
bellicose relationship.
793
00:38:59,545 --> 00:39:01,839
They were always at war.
794
00:39:01,964 --> 00:39:05,843
They had fistfights that spilled
out onto the front lawn.
795
00:39:05,926 --> 00:39:07,678
And then Ronnie would
take off in his car,
796
00:39:07,803 --> 00:39:09,847
and his father would
get in his car
797
00:39:09,972 --> 00:39:13,809
and speed down the block
following him.
798
00:39:13,893 --> 00:39:16,103
Scott:
At one point during a fight,
799
00:39:16,187 --> 00:39:18,731
he pulled a 12-gauge shotgun out
800
00:39:18,856 --> 00:39:23,235
and pointed it at his father's
face and pulled the trigger.
801
00:39:23,361 --> 00:39:24,487
[ Gun clicks ]
802
00:39:24,570 --> 00:39:26,364
The rifle malfunctioned.
803
00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:30,951
The last time I saw Butch
and Big Ronnie,
804
00:39:31,035 --> 00:39:34,789
they were fighting in the
driveway, yelling at each other.
805
00:39:34,872 --> 00:39:38,626
Big Ronnie was saying,
"Get outta here!"
806
00:39:38,709 --> 00:39:42,088
The relationship between
Butch DeFeo and his father
807
00:39:42,213 --> 00:39:44,298
was coming to a head.
808
00:39:44,382 --> 00:39:48,594
He felt controlled by his father
and terrorized by his father.
809
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:49,845
I didn't want their love.
810
00:39:49,929 --> 00:39:51,389
I didn't want anything
to do with them.
811
00:39:51,514 --> 00:39:54,058
How much abuse did you think
I was gonna take?
812
00:39:54,141 --> 00:39:56,394
He was a ticking time bomb.
813
00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:59,271
I had it with him,
and it was coming.
814
00:39:59,397 --> 00:40:00,856
This has got to stop.
815
00:40:00,940 --> 00:40:04,527
Osuna:
Anger and abuse and violence
816
00:40:04,610 --> 00:40:08,114
and drug addiction
and alcoholism --
817
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,409
it became a perfect storm
that fed into the murders.
818
00:40:11,492 --> 00:40:13,285
♪♪
819
00:40:13,411 --> 00:40:15,788
[ Gunshot ]
820
00:40:15,913 --> 00:40:20,084
♪♪
821
00:40:20,209 --> 00:40:22,837
He said, "Yes, I did it.
I killed them all."
822
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,298
You couldn't believe
how it happened.
823
00:40:26,424 --> 00:40:29,343
There were very strange things
824
00:40:29,427 --> 00:40:31,345
associated
with the DeFeo murders
825
00:40:31,429 --> 00:40:34,056
that the coroner,
the forensics people
826
00:40:34,140 --> 00:40:36,559
could not understand.
827
00:40:36,642 --> 00:40:39,103
Scott: Ron DeFeo said
that he heard voices
828
00:40:39,186 --> 00:40:41,939
telling him to kill,
compelling him to shoot
829
00:40:42,064 --> 00:40:44,442
one member of the family
after another.
830
00:40:44,567 --> 00:40:46,777
[ Gunshot ]
831
00:40:46,861 --> 00:40:48,446
Martin:
Before you know it,
832
00:40:48,529 --> 00:40:52,116
people are talking about this
house allegedly being haunted.
833
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:54,660
The story got bigger
and more embellished
834
00:40:54,785 --> 00:40:56,579
and more fantastical --
835
00:40:56,662 --> 00:40:58,706
ghosts flying to levitating
836
00:40:58,789 --> 00:41:00,958
to doors flying off hinges
837
00:41:01,041 --> 00:41:02,168
to demons
838
00:41:02,293 --> 00:41:04,503
to satanic forces.
839
00:41:04,628 --> 00:41:06,547
I was there at midnight.
840
00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:08,757
They started the séance.
841
00:41:08,841 --> 00:41:13,846
It's like a black shadow
that forms a hood,
842
00:41:13,971 --> 00:41:15,264
and it moves.
843
00:41:15,347 --> 00:41:18,767
"This is the closest to hell
I ever want to get."
844
00:41:18,851 --> 00:41:20,478
I'm the devil, I'm possessed,
845
00:41:20,561 --> 00:41:22,354
I'm supposed to be vicious,
846
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,983
a madman, insane, hear voices.
847
00:41:26,108 --> 00:41:29,487
That just makes your blood
run cold.
848
00:41:29,612 --> 00:41:31,864
The evil in the house was him.
849
00:41:31,989 --> 00:41:35,659
♪♪
850
00:41:35,743 --> 00:41:39,580
After Ron DeFeo Jr.'s
shocking confession
851
00:41:39,663 --> 00:41:41,123
that he was the murderer,
852
00:41:41,207 --> 00:41:42,708
the mystery deepened.
853
00:41:42,833 --> 00:41:45,377
Why would he kill
his entire family?
854
00:41:45,503 --> 00:41:46,629
There was no sign
of a struggle.
855
00:41:46,712 --> 00:41:48,839
Why didn't any of them
fight back?
856
00:41:48,964 --> 00:41:51,175
Why didn't anyone
try to run away?
857
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:52,593
What was his motive --
858
00:41:52,676 --> 00:41:55,513
greed, anger, or insanity?
859
00:41:55,596 --> 00:41:57,389
What really happened
that night
860
00:41:57,515 --> 00:42:00,684
in part two of
"The Amityville Horror."
861
00:42:00,809 --> 00:42:02,353
I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
862
00:42:02,436 --> 00:42:03,854
Thanks for watching.
863
00:42:03,979 --> 00:42:06,732
Good night.
66073
Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.