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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,100 --> 00:00:08,119 previously on Dark Side of the Ring. 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,760 Sure, you can watch the Hollywood Blondes, and we could have been a great 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:12,880 team that had been left together. 4 00:00:13,180 --> 00:00:17,820 But if you can watch Flyer Bryan in his total element, being the loose cannon, 5 00:00:18,060 --> 00:00:22,500 you're seeing one of the true, really, really bright minds in the business of 6 00:00:22,500 --> 00:00:23,500 professional wrestling. 7 00:00:23,700 --> 00:00:24,700 What are you doing? 8 00:00:24,860 --> 00:00:29,920 Easy! He was on track to becoming the biggest star in wrestling by convincing 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,600 people that he was the only one that wouldn't do what he was told. 10 00:00:34,060 --> 00:00:39,160 Have been fired by Eric Bischoff! 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,440 Brian and I talked about it. I can't give you what you want. 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,760 Raise the value in your stock so that when you come back, it'll give me the 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,720 ability to pay you more because you've raised your own value. 14 00:00:52,060 --> 00:00:56,860 Brian Pillman masterminded a cutting -edge character the wrestling world had 15 00:00:56,860 --> 00:00:57,860 never seen. 16 00:00:57,900 --> 00:01:03,040 Playing the system at its own game, he single -handedly turned the industry on 17 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:03,899 its head. 18 00:01:03,900 --> 00:01:06,060 in order to manipulate his way to the top. 19 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,560 If he played one side against the other in the middle of the burgeoning 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:14,020 wrestling war, then he would come out much better, six figures per year 21 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,680 But did he want it for himself? He didn't care about himself. 22 00:01:16,900 --> 00:01:18,240 He cared about those little kids. 23 00:01:18,660 --> 00:01:24,020 Lost inside his manic performance art, Bryan's real life spirals out of 24 00:01:24,300 --> 00:01:28,680 He was dependent on to provide for several different mothers and families, 25 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,020 think that does weigh on a man. 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,920 A tragic turn of events would not only alter the course of Brian's career 27 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:41,080 indefinitely, but also the lives of those closest to him. I really believe 28 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,500 it was not for the Humvee wreck that everything would have turned out 29 00:01:43,500 --> 00:01:44,500 differently. 30 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,000 Melanie called me. 31 00:01:59,230 --> 00:02:03,230 And she called to tell me that Brian had an accident and it was bad. 32 00:02:08,729 --> 00:02:15,670 And he was airlifted to University Hospital and was in the 33 00:02:15,670 --> 00:02:16,670 emergency room. 34 00:02:17,030 --> 00:02:19,950 So, again, I was the lucky one to go to the hospital. 35 00:02:21,210 --> 00:02:23,410 And I thought, oh, Jesus, here we go again. 36 00:02:24,850 --> 00:02:28,190 When I got to the hospital, I walked right by the room. 37 00:02:29,110 --> 00:02:32,510 And then Linda's like, that's his road, Melanie. I'm like, that's not my 38 00:02:32,510 --> 00:02:33,510 husband. 39 00:02:33,610 --> 00:02:35,670 He's like, I know. It doesn't look like him, does it? 40 00:02:38,350 --> 00:02:40,510 And his hair was red with all the blood. 41 00:02:40,910 --> 00:02:42,390 And they hit him in the neck brace. 42 00:02:42,890 --> 00:02:45,670 I mean, his head was swelled up like a beach ball. 43 00:02:46,630 --> 00:02:47,790 And I thought, oh, my God. 44 00:02:50,550 --> 00:02:55,170 It was really bad. His eyes were red. Like, I didn't see any color than red. 45 00:02:55,230 --> 00:02:57,230 Like, blood. His eyes were just, ugh. 46 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,220 He had six different doctors for his face. 47 00:03:03,100 --> 00:03:07,880 There's one that just does the forehead, the lower mandible, the upper mandible, 48 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,600 the nose, the eye sockets. 49 00:03:10,100 --> 00:03:11,980 Everything in his face was shattered. 50 00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:19,580 They had to put plates in his face, and they peeled his scalp back to make the 51 00:03:19,580 --> 00:03:22,620 incision and peeled his face down to put the plates in. 52 00:03:24,660 --> 00:03:28,840 Word travels quickly that Brian has been in a terrible car accident. 53 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,760 And there's talk of him losing a foot. 54 00:03:32,500 --> 00:03:33,880 His ankle was shattered. 55 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,440 In fact, the nurse told me that it was just like hanging off the table. She had 56 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,200 to pick it up to put it back on the table. 57 00:03:43,300 --> 00:03:47,920 And then the doctor said, you know, that they would have to just fuse it into a 58 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:54,660 walking position that he wouldn't probably be able to run or even wrestle 59 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,820 I show up, and he goes, I said, don't talk, Brian. It's all right. 60 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,460 Hey, I'm with you. I'm with you. 61 00:04:07,540 --> 00:04:14,080 And he's got a titanium mask, and he's got things holding his legs together. 62 00:04:16,620 --> 00:04:21,279 And once he kind of gained consciousness, what was his reaction to 63 00:04:23,100 --> 00:04:28,320 I remember him crying in the hospital, just saying, I really messed up. I 64 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,320 messed up. 65 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,380 Because he thought, you know, his career was over. 66 00:04:31,900 --> 00:04:35,740 And I said, just be grateful you were by yourself. There was no kids in the car. 67 00:04:36,980 --> 00:04:37,980 It'll be fine. 68 00:04:39,580 --> 00:04:42,160 But he was crying, saying, I really messed up. 69 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,840 So to the best of your knowledge, what took place with the accident? What 70 00:04:50,840 --> 00:04:54,220 happened? What happened to Brian? Oh, he fell asleep at the wheel. He had been 71 00:04:54,220 --> 00:04:56,960 up and he went and picked up some. 72 00:04:57,630 --> 00:05:01,950 of his medication and i guess it hit him too soon before he got back to the 73 00:05:01,950 --> 00:05:07,670 house and yeah he just um drove into a uh into a tree trunk off the side and it 74 00:05:07,670 --> 00:05:14,490 threw the humvee totaled the humvee was there also maybe like was there 75 00:05:14,490 --> 00:05:20,470 substance issues no just a muscle relaxer 76 00:05:20,470 --> 00:05:23,310 maybe a few pain pills 77 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,140 Well, we are turning the microphone over to you, sir. We don't need any police 78 00:05:28,140 --> 00:05:31,360 reports or doctor reports. Can you tell us, in your own words, what happened? 79 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,660 70 miles per hour, and I instantly became evil Kniez. 80 00:05:36,260 --> 00:05:42,180 Shot up in the air, then proceeded to come straight down, nose first, and 81 00:05:42,180 --> 00:05:47,180 luckily for me, I didn't have a seat belt on because it shot me straight out, 82 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:53,380 and I pierced the convertible top of that vehicle with my head like a bullet. 83 00:05:53,380 --> 00:05:54,380 was shot out. 84 00:05:54,750 --> 00:05:58,870 50 feet away from the vehicle would end up doing two end -over -end flips. 85 00:05:59,190 --> 00:06:00,190 Oh, my Lord. 86 00:06:03,730 --> 00:06:08,850 When he came home from the hospital, I do remember him being in the living 87 00:06:08,950 --> 00:06:13,250 and I had a gift, and I wanted to give it to him, and I was just terrified 88 00:06:13,250 --> 00:06:15,310 because I'm like, that's not my dad. 89 00:06:15,970 --> 00:06:20,210 I don't know who that is. You know, as a child and seeing my father like that, I 90 00:06:20,210 --> 00:06:22,330 think it just kind of freaked me out a little bit. 91 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,600 I do have some small memories there of just seeing those bolts and how they're 92 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,520 just screwed into his leg. And I'm thinking, what's going on here, you 93 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,800 it's like, they look like they're greased up, but it's like, not greased, 94 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:41,280 it's like blood and like just, it's all hardened. And it's just, oh, it was just 95 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:45,420 a wild sight to see, you know, just some rusty bolts sticking out of your dad's 96 00:06:45,420 --> 00:06:46,420 leg. 97 00:06:48,140 --> 00:06:51,600 Yeah, I just, I really remember him just being like so exhausted. 98 00:06:52,460 --> 00:06:53,960 And run down. 99 00:06:54,800 --> 00:07:00,520 I was just too young to really understand, like, what was really going 100 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,020 him and, like, how ragged his life had become. 101 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,120 The loose cannon thing had gone so far at this point that a lot of the guys 102 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,160 convinced there was no wreck and it was Brian working again. And they're just 103 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,960 trying to figure out what the angle is. How does he expect to get more money out 104 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,440 of this or more attention out of this? Or, you know, was it really a wreck? Or 105 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,200 maybe he just ran his car off the road and wrecked it to get, you know, 106 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:29,200 publicity. 107 00:07:29,700 --> 00:07:34,420 He had created so much not only mystery but confusion about himself that even 108 00:07:34,420 --> 00:07:38,140 the guys that were his friends weren't exactly sure how to take him. 109 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,500 Perhaps he would have done that for attention. 110 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,920 And then Kim, who would not work me, Kim is just like, no, no, no, it's real. 111 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,760 And I told people, it's real. And then, you know, I think most people didn't 112 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:50,599 believe me either. 113 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,680 He was, you know, there's the Andy Kaufman thing in him. 114 00:07:52,940 --> 00:07:56,400 Faking an auto accident, perhaps he would have done that for attention. 115 00:07:56,740 --> 00:08:00,380 There was even at one point a rumor that some of the wrestlers put out that he 116 00:08:00,380 --> 00:08:05,100 was having plastic surgery to look just like Shawn Michaels so he could go into 117 00:08:05,100 --> 00:08:08,800 the World Wrestling Federation and be the evil Shawn Michaels and fight him 118 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:09,609 the title. 119 00:08:09,610 --> 00:08:13,370 Guys believed that because they thought Brian was nuts. 120 00:08:13,970 --> 00:08:18,510 While the wrestling rumor mill is speculating the authenticity of the 121 00:08:18,770 --> 00:08:21,890 media outlets also questioned Brian's intentions. 122 00:08:22,670 --> 00:08:26,430 Brian, now you're not having plastic surgery and, you know, going to go into 123 00:08:26,430 --> 00:08:30,190 WWF as Shawn Michaels' twin or something. I don't know what goes on in 124 00:08:30,190 --> 00:08:35,850 online. Think about that statement. It's preposterous, but just... Right now, I 125 00:08:35,850 --> 00:08:37,990 am the owner of four... 126 00:08:38,610 --> 00:08:43,390 steel, titanium plates bolted to my face to hold everything together. I look 127 00:08:43,390 --> 00:08:48,430 like Brian Devin Pillman with a swollen face and black eyes. 128 00:08:48,870 --> 00:08:52,390 I can look back, and Brian was pretty honest with me most of the time, but the 129 00:08:52,390 --> 00:08:57,690 one where I know that he wasn't was right after the accident. And Brian, you 130 00:08:57,690 --> 00:09:00,230 know, said like, oh yeah, the doctors told me, you know, it's like, it's going 131 00:09:00,230 --> 00:09:04,830 to take a while, but I will be 100%. The doctors have told me, and I know that 132 00:09:04,830 --> 00:09:06,310 the doctors told him the exact opposite. 133 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,760 The wreck happened during the negotiations. 134 00:09:09,980 --> 00:09:13,540 He kept it pretty quiet how badly he was hurt. 135 00:09:13,820 --> 00:09:19,860 And if the real story of that wreck had come out at that point, I don't think he 136 00:09:19,860 --> 00:09:23,820 would have got a contract from either company. He could never again do 137 00:09:23,820 --> 00:09:26,120 physically what he had been able to do before. 138 00:09:26,340 --> 00:09:27,940 And he didn't want anybody to know that. 139 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,060 The object was to play Vince for money. 140 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:35,840 And he did. Only he was... 141 00:09:36,270 --> 00:09:37,670 Near dead when he did. 142 00:09:37,890 --> 00:09:40,010 Vince signed him. And he signed him for more money. 143 00:09:43,430 --> 00:09:47,830 Vince McMahon offers Brian a guaranteed three -year contract. 144 00:09:48,250 --> 00:09:52,830 And although Eric Bischoff offers him more money, his deal is subject to be 145 00:09:52,830 --> 00:09:54,850 renegotiated every three months. 146 00:09:56,030 --> 00:10:00,730 Brian knew at that point, because of the extent of the injury, that if he had an 147 00:10:00,730 --> 00:10:04,290 out clause in a contract, that at some point fairly early, it was going to get 148 00:10:04,290 --> 00:10:05,290 exercised. 149 00:10:05,930 --> 00:10:10,090 The events that have taken place in my life just in the past eight weeks have 150 00:10:10,090 --> 00:10:16,450 really changed the future of my life. And 151 00:10:16,450 --> 00:10:23,050 from going from a point not knowing if I was going to live or not to standing 152 00:10:23,050 --> 00:10:29,470 here, signing a contract with the World Wrestling Federation, it's a dream come 153 00:10:29,470 --> 00:10:30,470 true. 154 00:10:31,990 --> 00:10:35,450 What changed about Grime coming into our company at that time? 155 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:41,020 Well, he's not going to be able to wrestle to any degree or even comparably 156 00:10:41,020 --> 00:10:42,020 what he was. 157 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:48,940 Although Brian is still in rehabilitation for his injuries, he 158 00:10:48,940 --> 00:10:55,540 the WWF in 1996 with the loose cannon persona already in full force. 159 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:01,580 There's Brian Tillman. What's he doing? Brian Tillman, recently signing with the 160 00:11:01,580 --> 00:11:02,580 World Wrestling Federation. 161 00:11:04,650 --> 00:11:08,690 I just remember him coming in and I was like, OK, let's see what he can do here 162 00:11:08,690 --> 00:11:11,970 in the land of, you know, WWF. 163 00:11:12,890 --> 00:11:16,190 They'll let you go out there and push the envelope. 164 00:11:16,550 --> 00:11:19,510 But, you know, how strong is he? Can he do it? 165 00:11:19,890 --> 00:11:24,130 And I would have if I was going to bet on Brian, I'm like, oh, yeah, if he 166 00:11:24,130 --> 00:11:26,510 just get healed up, he's going to go right to the top. 167 00:11:26,730 --> 00:11:31,830 I'm going to rape, pillage and plunder this entire federation. 168 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,420 When Brian came home, he still had an IV. 169 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:48,820 And he unhooked himself from the IV, go do the show, and then come back and hook 170 00:11:48,820 --> 00:11:49,860 himself back up again. 171 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,820 He had to do that because of work. 172 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,500 So then it wasn't fun for him anymore. 173 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,580 You know, I don't think he enjoyed it anymore. 174 00:11:59,220 --> 00:12:02,760 You know, that was what I consider the beginning of the end. 175 00:12:08,780 --> 00:12:13,920 As Brian Pillman continues to struggle with his crippling injuries, an upcoming 176 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,620 surgery keeps him out of any in -ring action. 177 00:12:16,940 --> 00:12:23,480 To disguise this from fans, the WWF devises a shocking storyline involving 178 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,600 his old tag team partner. 179 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,680 I needed to do something to get some heat. We were in Cincinnati in his 180 00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:30,880 hometown, so... 181 00:12:31,130 --> 00:12:34,870 It's always great to attack somebody in their hometown, especially him being in 182 00:12:34,870 --> 00:12:35,870 a compromised position. 183 00:12:36,310 --> 00:12:39,610 Steve and Brian were still friends, and they still wanted to see each other 184 00:12:39,610 --> 00:12:43,730 succeed. Steve was still on his way up, so we decided to put them together 185 00:12:43,730 --> 00:12:47,850 because we thought that they would enjoy it, and at the same time, the people 186 00:12:47,850 --> 00:12:48,850 would enjoy it as well. 187 00:12:50,810 --> 00:12:55,990 I laid into him and started kicking the hell out of him. 188 00:12:56,510 --> 00:13:01,370 I broke that cane on his ankle. That brass duck had flew into the crowd. 189 00:13:01,770 --> 00:13:08,190 I stomped a mud hole in his ass and walked it dry. That was a stiff beating 190 00:13:08,190 --> 00:13:13,930 gave him because it had to be. My character was a vicious, cold -blooded 191 00:13:13,930 --> 00:13:15,770 was ruthless and remorseless. 192 00:13:16,090 --> 00:13:20,930 So had I not given him the beating that I gave him, who would have cared? 193 00:13:21,350 --> 00:13:24,030 They cared about Brian because I hurt his ass. 194 00:13:24,390 --> 00:13:25,690 He may have re -broken. 195 00:13:25,930 --> 00:13:31,490 He gets Brian Pillman down and he puts a metal folding chair around the bad 196 00:13:31,490 --> 00:13:34,630 ankle and then stomps the seat of the chair. 197 00:13:35,970 --> 00:13:40,870 And Brian screams, oh my God, he's re -injured the ankle. 198 00:13:41,330 --> 00:13:44,450 There's a way you can do that. I won't give away any secrets. 199 00:13:45,590 --> 00:13:49,650 But that was an excuse for Brian to have continued problems with the ankle 200 00:13:49,650 --> 00:13:54,810 publicly on television. It became in the industry known as Pillmanizing. 201 00:13:55,560 --> 00:14:00,120 A body part. Brian took that ass whooping like a damn man. He knew what I 202 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,180 do, and he sold it like a million bucks. 203 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:09,760 In the midst of a TV ratings war with WCW, Vince strives to produce 204 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:14,760 edgier content to further capitalize on the feud between Pillman and Austin. 205 00:14:15,340 --> 00:14:22,280 Somehow they decided, and I was not consulted on this, but they decided that 206 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:23,840 it would be a wonderful thing. 207 00:14:24,650 --> 00:14:30,190 If they did a remote from Brian Pillman's house in Cincinnati... We are 208 00:14:30,690 --> 00:14:33,410 Austin is outside of Brian Pillman's home! 209 00:14:33,650 --> 00:14:39,550 Steve Austin came to find him and staged a home invasion on Monday Night Raw. 210 00:14:39,710 --> 00:14:43,310 Austin trying to get into the house of Brian Pillman. 211 00:14:43,830 --> 00:14:47,890 Were you excited to do something that felt so real and gritty at that time? I 212 00:14:47,890 --> 00:14:50,310 always wanted to do something that felt real and gritty, especially something 213 00:14:50,310 --> 00:14:52,590 that's going to have the, you know, the... 214 00:14:52,910 --> 00:14:57,830 The volume turned up, the testosterone, the adrenaline turned up. I mean, hell, 215 00:14:57,850 --> 00:15:01,630 man, if you're just casually, if you're not a wrestling fan and you're kind of 216 00:15:01,630 --> 00:15:06,350 just flipping channels and all of a sudden you watch the 10 seconds of this 217 00:15:06,350 --> 00:15:08,530 thing, you're not going to change a channel. 218 00:15:08,950 --> 00:15:15,950 Steve is a dead man walking because when Austin 316 meets Pillman. Oh, my 219 00:15:15,950 --> 00:15:16,950 God. Oh, 220 00:15:17,570 --> 00:15:18,570 my God. 221 00:15:20,509 --> 00:15:26,170 All of a sudden, man, I start bashing in that window with that woman of baseball 222 00:15:26,170 --> 00:15:27,590 bat. What the hell is that? 223 00:15:30,350 --> 00:15:32,710 And there's Melanie and they're just shrieking. 224 00:15:33,750 --> 00:15:38,350 I remember Vince was like, all right, we're going to have a phone call and y 225 00:15:38,350 --> 00:15:39,410 'all just wing it from there. 226 00:15:45,510 --> 00:15:47,850 Nothing like that had ever been done before in wrestling. It was kind of 227 00:15:47,850 --> 00:15:50,630 groundbreaking, whether it was in a good way or a bad way. 228 00:15:50,830 --> 00:15:53,390 People weren't ready for it. They weren't ready for it. 229 00:15:53,730 --> 00:15:57,110 The reaction was pretty negative to it. I mean, it was pretty darn negative. 230 00:15:57,350 --> 00:16:00,650 I didn't like it. I didn't like the idea of, like, you know, using a gun. And it 231 00:16:00,650 --> 00:16:04,110 seemed going really extreme, but that's the direction wrestling went. 232 00:16:04,430 --> 00:16:05,750 Oh, my God, he's back! 233 00:16:06,790 --> 00:16:07,629 That's Brian. 234 00:16:07,630 --> 00:16:09,370 You know, I don't know whose idea it was. 235 00:16:10,010 --> 00:16:13,210 And how much input he had on the idea, he never really told me that. But he was 236 00:16:13,210 --> 00:16:16,890 absolutely really into it. And they had to apologize for it the next week 237 00:16:16,890 --> 00:16:19,990 because the gun thing, you know, Vince had to actually go on television and 238 00:16:19,990 --> 00:16:22,250 apologize for that angle because it got so much negativity. 239 00:16:22,890 --> 00:16:26,310 And on behalf of the World Wrestling Federation, for those of you who were 240 00:16:26,310 --> 00:16:30,770 offended, those viewers, we humbly apologize for the incident that took 241 00:16:30,770 --> 00:16:32,510 last Monday night on Raw. 242 00:16:32,930 --> 00:16:35,330 And I think that's the only angle Vince ever apologized for. 243 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,660 The donut's here at ringside. 244 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:42,680 While still recovering from the car wreck, Pillman is temporarily sidelined 245 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:43,680 broadcast announcer. 246 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,800 Yeah, I'm going to cut through all your implicit rhetoric and cut right to the 247 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:53,120 chase. Tell them like it is. And hey, if the censors don't like it, you're going 248 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:58,320 to get fired. Not me. I'm Brian Pillman. I'll just go somewhere else and feed 249 00:16:58,320 --> 00:16:59,139 people up. 250 00:16:59,140 --> 00:17:01,280 He looked at being an announcer as a condemn. 251 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,720 It was less than. It's not being a man. 252 00:17:03,940 --> 00:17:07,040 When I said, Look, you can make a great living. 253 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,260 You can take care of your health. 254 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:10,480 He didn't want to hear it. 255 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,579 The only thing he wanted to hear was me to encourage him that you could come 256 00:17:14,579 --> 00:17:18,240 back and be what you were for really, really close to it. 257 00:17:18,579 --> 00:17:21,720 And I never told him because I've been lying. 258 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,900 You know, the competitor in him wanted just to get back in the ring and work. 259 00:17:26,900 --> 00:17:28,780 was working matches, but he was in a lot of pain. 260 00:17:29,140 --> 00:17:33,580 The former Cincinnati Bengals had two major surgeries on his leg. Even though 261 00:17:33,580 --> 00:17:37,320 was able to sometimes have decent matches, just because he was smart 262 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,200 know how, and he would fall on his face, do things that were dangerous in a 263 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,300 different way, but not hurt the body parts that were hurt. It was really sad 264 00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:45,520 watch. He wasn't the same at all. 265 00:17:45,860 --> 00:17:49,560 Brian needed to stay medicated more often than he should because of the pain 266 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:50,560 was in. 267 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,040 Because he was doing things. 268 00:17:52,490 --> 00:17:53,690 that he shouldn't have been doing. 269 00:17:56,370 --> 00:18:01,770 He made it through because he'd say, oh, I'm okay. I'm good. I'm fine. 270 00:18:03,050 --> 00:18:04,070 He wasn't fine. 271 00:18:04,970 --> 00:18:09,650 Consistently performing well beyond what his body can handle, Brian's dependency 272 00:18:09,650 --> 00:18:15,470 on painkillers and the pressure to provide for his family is pushing him to 273 00:18:15,470 --> 00:18:16,770 point of no return. 274 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,780 While rushing through recovery, Brian Pillman hampers any progress on his 275 00:18:27,780 --> 00:18:32,820 injuries by choosing to still perform in the ring, which results in his pain 276 00:18:32,820 --> 00:18:34,380 becoming all -consuming. 277 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:40,640 The only thing Brian ever told me was that if he had an ache or pain, he took 278 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,680 pill. He said if it didn't go away, he took another one. 279 00:18:43,940 --> 00:18:45,940 And he took a pill until it went away. 280 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,060 He was sick, physically sick. 281 00:18:51,659 --> 00:18:58,060 with infection in his ankle because he was going to shows and not recouping it 282 00:18:58,060 --> 00:18:59,060 properly. 283 00:19:00,740 --> 00:19:05,740 I would talk to guys in WWF, and they would tell me how he couldn't get 284 00:19:05,740 --> 00:19:06,399 the airport. 285 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,920 You know what I mean? He couldn't walk through the airport, and he's out there 286 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,280 taking bumps in a wrestling ring. It's like he cannot walk through the airport. 287 00:19:14,540 --> 00:19:18,800 I'd see him kind of walk around with his suitcase, and he wasn't moving so well. 288 00:19:19,390 --> 00:19:23,850 But Brian is one of those guys that, like a man's man, you just figure, 289 00:19:23,850 --> 00:19:26,230 it is, Brian's got it. He's Brian Feldman. 290 00:19:28,870 --> 00:19:32,950 You know, I could have seen the writing on the wall, but because of the regard 291 00:19:32,950 --> 00:19:35,810 that I held him in, I thought it was going to be just fine. 292 00:19:36,450 --> 00:19:41,270 When you have wrestlers that are missing shows or obviously unable to perform 293 00:19:41,270 --> 00:19:45,630 when they get there, then you know you've got problems. It wasn't that 294 00:19:45,630 --> 00:19:46,630 with Brian. 295 00:19:47,450 --> 00:19:51,310 How were you able to tell where the loose cannon ended and the real person 296 00:19:51,310 --> 00:19:52,310 began? 297 00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:54,330 How was your guys' relationship? 298 00:19:54,770 --> 00:19:57,530 We had some problems. We were having problems because he kept wrecking rental 299 00:19:57,530 --> 00:20:01,210 cars. He was definitely, like, nodding out at the wheel. 300 00:20:01,450 --> 00:20:03,130 He was definitely having issues. 301 00:20:03,490 --> 00:20:07,330 He acted as though he wasn't going to be around much longer. He used to say 302 00:20:07,330 --> 00:20:11,190 things like... If anything happens to me, make sure you move back to Atlanta 303 00:20:11,190 --> 00:20:14,570 don't stay up here if you're not comfortable here. And make sure you find 304 00:20:14,570 --> 00:20:17,650 somebody so the kids have a father. I'm like, why would you even say something 305 00:20:17,650 --> 00:20:18,529 like that? 306 00:20:18,530 --> 00:20:20,530 And then the next day he wrecked a rental car. 307 00:20:22,310 --> 00:20:26,770 I had become a bit estranged from him because he was tough. 308 00:20:28,010 --> 00:20:33,110 And one time he came to my house and he had a big welt. You could see the hole. 309 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,300 It was like, you know, the syringe. It was a horse needle syringe that went in 310 00:20:38,300 --> 00:20:40,640 there. And it was growth hormone or something. 311 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,000 But he was up. 312 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,340 He was like, he kept repeating himself. And I said, this is it, Brian. 313 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,520 I'll give you to 10 and get out of my house. My kids are upstairs sleeping. 314 00:20:50,660 --> 00:20:52,240 Don't ever come here in this state. 315 00:20:52,460 --> 00:20:54,000 Oh, yeah, but I got to do that. 316 00:20:54,580 --> 00:20:55,580 I said, 317 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:01,060 no, I can't. I'm sorry. Your friend would get away from me right now. 318 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,400 And he did. 319 00:21:04,120 --> 00:21:07,360 Some of his friends had come to me when I was in charge of town relations and 320 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:11,980 say that this was becoming a bigger issue and I needed to intervene. 321 00:21:13,460 --> 00:21:17,720 And it was going to be tough because he was not going to appreciate that 322 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:18,720 intervention. 323 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,060 I called the agent, lead agent. I said, you know, I'm going to have a drug 324 00:21:23,060 --> 00:21:25,100 tester there tonight to test Philman. 325 00:21:26,180 --> 00:21:27,440 And I said, make sure it gets done. 326 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,520 He felt like I had betrayed him. That's what he told me. 327 00:21:33,900 --> 00:21:36,680 I can't believe you of all people would betray me. 328 00:21:38,700 --> 00:21:42,760 And that you always had my back. 329 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,460 You were always there for me. 330 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,040 And now this. 331 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,280 I said, Brian, I'm trying to save your life. 332 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,460 That's all I'm trying to do. 333 00:21:54,629 --> 00:21:59,130 And Brian just called me up, I hate Jim Ross, why is he singling me out? Do you 334 00:21:59,130 --> 00:22:00,930 know how many guys in this company are doing drugs? 335 00:22:01,270 --> 00:22:04,430 And he goes, they're not going to find anything on me, nothing but my 336 00:22:04,430 --> 00:22:05,430 prescription pain pills. 337 00:22:05,610 --> 00:22:07,650 They're not going to find any illegal drugs in me. 338 00:22:07,870 --> 00:22:11,330 And in fact, you know, the only thing that they found in him was prescription 339 00:22:11,330 --> 00:22:15,910 pain drugs and steroids, which, you know, in an extent, you know, I don't 340 00:22:15,910 --> 00:22:18,130 that that really counts for what they were looking for. 341 00:22:19,890 --> 00:22:22,610 I had to lead Brian out of the path that he was on. 342 00:22:23,530 --> 00:22:25,270 to no avail. I failed. 343 00:22:26,090 --> 00:22:32,870 I needed to convince him that he's so talented that he was going to be a star 344 00:22:32,870 --> 00:22:35,210 in other areas of pro wrestling. 345 00:22:35,730 --> 00:22:36,730 I failed. 346 00:22:37,730 --> 00:22:44,230 In October of 1997, at the Kiel Center in St. Louis, Missouri, Bryan is 347 00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:48,970 scheduled to compete at WWF's pay -per -view event, Bad Blood. 348 00:22:49,230 --> 00:22:52,790 In those days, the call time for talent at the pay -per -views was 1 o 'clock. 349 00:22:53,230 --> 00:22:58,070 And sometimes guys would be late, oversleep, miss their flight, traffic, 350 00:22:58,190 --> 00:23:03,550 whatever. But by 5 o 'clock, everybody was accounted for except for Brian. 351 00:23:04,110 --> 00:23:09,390 And that was egregiously late to be for a pay -per -view. So Bruce Pritchard 352 00:23:09,390 --> 00:23:10,770 asked me, I'm in talent relations. 353 00:23:11,070 --> 00:23:16,150 He said, call, try to find where he might be. Call the hotel where he stayed 354 00:23:16,150 --> 00:23:18,290 last night in Minneapolis, see what time he checked out. 355 00:23:19,750 --> 00:23:22,270 I get on the phone, and boom, the guy answers. 356 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,300 I said, I'm with the World Wrestling Federation. We're looking for one of our 357 00:23:26,300 --> 00:23:29,780 wrestlers. He stayed there last night, Brian Pillman. Can you tell me what time 358 00:23:29,780 --> 00:23:30,780 he checked out? 359 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,960 And the guy said, hold on a second. And he put me on hold. 360 00:23:35,460 --> 00:23:37,520 Okay, is he checking his records? 361 00:23:37,820 --> 00:23:41,980 And he answered, he said, sir? I said, yeah. He said, Mr. Pillman's dead. 362 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:49,420 And the first flash that I had, what is Brian doing now? 363 00:23:49,900 --> 00:23:50,900 I said, is this a rib? 364 00:23:53,950 --> 00:23:56,190 And the guy said, no, the police are here now. 365 00:23:57,530 --> 00:23:58,530 I said, okay. 366 00:23:59,770 --> 00:24:04,050 So I told one of the production assistants, I said, go get Bruce. 367 00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:08,470 And he said, oh, Bruce is busy. He's doing that. I said, Brian is dead. Go 368 00:24:08,470 --> 00:24:09,470 Bruce. 369 00:24:09,790 --> 00:24:13,410 And Bruce came in and got on the phone, and I just kind of walked off because I 370 00:24:13,410 --> 00:24:18,590 did not want to hear that news right now. 23 years later, I didn't want to 371 00:24:18,590 --> 00:24:19,590 that news. 372 00:24:25,450 --> 00:24:27,670 On October 5th, 1997, 373 00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:32,810 Brian Pillman was found dead in his hotel room in Bloomington, Minnesota. 374 00:24:33,210 --> 00:24:35,570 He was 35 years old. 375 00:24:36,050 --> 00:24:42,050 It's hard for me to still think about it today and think of that heart of that 376 00:24:42,050 --> 00:24:44,190 athlete, that performer, stopping. 377 00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:48,430 Just doesn't seem believable. 378 00:24:49,250 --> 00:24:53,930 It almost didn't register with me because I'm like, eh, Brian ain't dead. 379 00:24:54,570 --> 00:24:58,930 Because he couldn't die. If you knew Brian, this force field of energy that 380 00:24:58,930 --> 00:25:01,590 was, I thought could never be stopped. 381 00:25:01,810 --> 00:25:03,130 I honestly thought that. 382 00:25:04,490 --> 00:25:10,750 State police showed up on the door and said that he had to tell me that my 383 00:25:10,750 --> 00:25:11,770 husband was found deceased. 384 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,680 As a kid already in the show business world, I was thinking, like, is this 385 00:25:23,900 --> 00:25:27,120 Like, is he really dead? Like, no, he's surely coming back. Like, I didn't even 386 00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:30,480 know what to think. I didn't even cry when my dad died. 387 00:25:30,860 --> 00:25:35,020 And I just remember, like, my family, we're all sitting on the bed, like, 388 00:25:35,060 --> 00:25:38,680 hugging each other and crying. And everybody's crying. And I'm looking 389 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:39,880 I'm like, where's the camera crew? 390 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,420 It's got to be around here somewhere, you know. I was like, all right, I'll 391 00:25:43,420 --> 00:25:46,460 the spot here. You know, we'll all just hug and pretend we're sad. But then, 392 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,820 like, reality set in. I'm like, oh, shit, he's really not coming home. Like, 393 00:25:50,860 --> 00:25:51,860 holy crap. 394 00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:55,820 As a kid, that's just kind of what I thought. I figured, you know what, he 395 00:25:55,820 --> 00:25:57,920 to work that day, and he decided to stay there. 396 00:25:59,700 --> 00:26:04,900 The next night on Monday Night Raw, the news of Brian's death is broadcast live. 397 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,040 Yesterday afternoon, Brian Pillman... 398 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:15,100 was found dead in a hotel room in Bloomington, Minnesota. 399 00:26:19,060 --> 00:26:24,120 I remember when we told the bell ten times. That was when I got emotional. I 400 00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:29,500 remember very emotional, and that's when I was like, he's gone. 401 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:30,760 He's gone. 402 00:26:30,940 --> 00:26:35,180 And then I remember talking to, I think, Jim Roth. I said, hand the phone to 403 00:26:35,180 --> 00:26:37,940 Owen. And then Owen says, I don't know. I don't know what happened. 404 00:26:39,129 --> 00:26:42,930 Then Vince got on the phone and he said, do you want to talk on camera? 405 00:26:43,130 --> 00:26:44,770 And then I just thought, well, you know what? 406 00:26:45,310 --> 00:26:47,730 With Brian, the show must go on. 407 00:26:47,970 --> 00:26:52,530 Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, in suburban Cincinnati, the wife of Brian 408 00:26:52,530 --> 00:26:56,290 Pillman, Melanie Pillman. Melanie, thank you so much for joining us tonight. I 409 00:26:56,290 --> 00:27:01,730 did say to Vince, please don't ask me about drugs or anything like that 410 00:27:01,730 --> 00:27:04,130 I do not exactly know why he died yet. 411 00:27:04,550 --> 00:27:06,730 Brian, because of his injuries. 412 00:27:07,390 --> 00:27:10,910 I've had to take a great deal of prescribed medicine. 413 00:27:11,290 --> 00:27:15,530 And that first thing he does is start talking about pain pills. And then I'm 414 00:27:15,530 --> 00:27:18,410 like, that's good. It's all right. I made like a really funny face. And I 415 00:27:18,410 --> 00:27:21,670 remember that the only clear part of that interview, I can remember thinking, 416 00:27:21,910 --> 00:27:25,450 which is Moe was standing here so I could smack him. 417 00:27:26,490 --> 00:27:30,850 Because he swore, he swore he wouldn't say anything like leading down that 418 00:27:30,850 --> 00:27:33,870 direction until the death certificate came out. 419 00:27:34,290 --> 00:27:36,070 I think all athletes to a degree. 420 00:27:37,580 --> 00:27:39,960 experienced a reliance on pain medicine. 421 00:27:40,180 --> 00:27:45,780 And, you know, I knew it was just a matter of time before it happened to 422 00:27:45,780 --> 00:27:49,600 someone. And fortunately, it was my husband. 423 00:27:49,860 --> 00:27:56,840 And I just want everyone to know that I hate to wake up calls of some of 424 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:02,760 you because it could be your husband next or it could be you. And, you know, 425 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,480 don't want to leave behind a bunch of orphans. 426 00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:07,220 Like my husband did. 427 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:13,060 I absolutely despised the grieving widow interview. 428 00:28:13,380 --> 00:28:15,720 I didn't like it on a wrestling program. 429 00:28:15,940 --> 00:28:20,580 I was uncomfortable with it. I didn't know why she had to go out there and 430 00:28:20,580 --> 00:28:26,680 to answer these questions that were obviously meant to elicit tears and et 431 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,920 cetera for television, say for good television. 432 00:28:31,180 --> 00:28:34,880 I thought he should have sent her a check for $100 ,000 and kept her ass off 433 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,880 is what I thought. 434 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:41,620 Have you had any opportunity to think about what you now as a single parent 435 00:28:41,620 --> 00:28:43,500 do to support your five children? 436 00:28:45,860 --> 00:28:49,240 Vince, I don't even really know what day it is, you know. 437 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,940 So I don't know what I'm going to do. 438 00:28:53,220 --> 00:28:56,440 Yeah, and everybody's like, oh, that was so horrible what you did to her. I 439 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:57,440 barely remember it. 440 00:28:57,860 --> 00:28:59,580 I didn't really, I didn't really. 441 00:29:00,970 --> 00:29:04,590 Think about not doing it. But nobody pressured me into it. 442 00:29:06,250 --> 00:29:07,250 I hated it. 443 00:29:08,070 --> 00:29:13,930 I didn't want to relive and relive and regurgitate and regurgitate this matter 444 00:29:13,930 --> 00:29:16,190 to pop a rating. 445 00:29:17,150 --> 00:29:19,450 And to me, that's what it's all about. 446 00:29:26,810 --> 00:29:28,750 And what was the official cause of death? 447 00:29:31,780 --> 00:29:32,780 Heart disease. 448 00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:37,160 And see, my father died of a massive heart attack at 55. 449 00:29:39,260 --> 00:29:41,360 What were your memories of his funeral? 450 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,560 We got there early before people came in because it was supposed to be family 451 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,560 and friends. 452 00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:51,080 And when we walked in there was a camera crew there. 453 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,880 And I walked up to him and I said, who are you? 454 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,380 And I said, you're not supposed to be here. 455 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,240 They said, well, Melanie said we can't. And I said, well, I'm Brian's sister, 456 00:30:00,340 --> 00:30:01,740 and I'm telling you, no, you can't. 457 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,320 And they left. 458 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,780 Did many wrestlers show up? 459 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,680 No. 460 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,440 Just Vince and Jim Ross were there. 461 00:30:14,940 --> 00:30:19,180 They had an open casket, and I knew then it was going to be really tough. 462 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,440 There's the last time I saw him. 463 00:30:22,620 --> 00:30:25,940 That's the last time I would see Brian, lying in a casket. 464 00:30:27,020 --> 00:30:28,820 And that was just gut -wrenching. 465 00:30:29,180 --> 00:30:30,640 Absolutely gut -wrenching. 466 00:30:31,620 --> 00:30:32,680 I just stared. 467 00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:37,720 And I had memories floating back when I was looking at the courts. I'm thinking, 468 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,060 this shouldn't be a part of my pro wrestling career. 469 00:30:40,660 --> 00:30:44,280 This shouldn't be a part of my journey in this crazy business. 470 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:50,960 And we shouldn't be burying a guy that's this young and also a young family 471 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:51,960 around him. 472 00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:57,650 At the very end, everyone's gone except for, you know, a couple family members, 473 00:30:57,830 --> 00:31:01,690 and the little girls, they're kind of running around, and they're not, like, 474 00:31:01,730 --> 00:31:02,509 crying or anything. 475 00:31:02,510 --> 00:31:05,530 They're just little kids, and they go, we've got to say goodbye to Daddy, and 476 00:31:05,530 --> 00:31:08,190 they all run to the casket. Goodbye, Daddy. Goodbye, Daddy. 477 00:31:08,690 --> 00:31:09,690 It's like, oh. 478 00:31:12,510 --> 00:31:17,010 And I think for me, I was just in complete shock. I just, you know, I 479 00:31:17,010 --> 00:31:22,050 put it all together. I just couldn't believe it because, like, I lost my mom 480 00:31:22,050 --> 00:31:26,030 now my dad, you know, and I was just a lost little girl. 481 00:31:28,330 --> 00:31:30,190 What do you remember from that day? 482 00:31:31,310 --> 00:31:35,010 Going through the motions and pretending I was still alive and I had a soul. 483 00:31:36,570 --> 00:31:38,970 I felt like I didn't know what to do. 484 00:31:41,230 --> 00:31:43,430 Right now, like, it's the same day almost. 485 00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:50,270 What do you mean? I mean, I can bring myself back to that same pain in my 486 00:31:52,150 --> 00:31:55,590 If I let go too long, which I'm just going to stop now, if that's okay for a 487 00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:56,590 second. 488 00:32:00,940 --> 00:32:05,300 He had such an impact, such an influence on so many people's lives. It had to 489 00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:09,580 have hurt everybody to see him go. It had to have hurt everybody to lose him. 490 00:32:09,660 --> 00:32:14,080 But the person that hurt the most was Melanie, was my mother. She dealt with 491 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,300 losing what was ultimately the love of her life. 492 00:32:18,900 --> 00:32:24,200 After Brian is laid to rest, his children are jolted into their new 493 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,580 I never really had a problem with Melanie until... 494 00:32:28,490 --> 00:32:33,310 My father passed and then, you know, like her true character revealed itself. 495 00:32:37,270 --> 00:32:38,810 I spiraled out of control. 496 00:32:39,010 --> 00:32:40,790 I wasn't the best mother in the world. 497 00:32:41,070 --> 00:32:42,650 I always loved my kids. 498 00:32:43,950 --> 00:32:50,110 Up until this day, Melanie receives royalties from my father's legacy, which 499 00:32:50,110 --> 00:32:52,350 have seen zero since. 500 00:32:53,370 --> 00:32:57,650 Oh, yeah, they said I was a gold digger, too, and I spent all the money I ever 501 00:32:57,650 --> 00:32:59,790 got on crazy stuff. 502 00:33:00,830 --> 00:33:07,750 Some of it was spent on crazy stuff, but not the way they... We stayed 503 00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:11,410 at my dad's house for a while, and then things got really bad, and we moved. 504 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,060 You know, running water would be turned off all the time. Electric would be 505 00:33:16,060 --> 00:33:16,939 turned off. 506 00:33:16,940 --> 00:33:21,340 It's crazy how you go from having a silver platter growing up to not even 507 00:33:21,340 --> 00:33:23,160 knowing when your next meal is going to be. 508 00:33:24,180 --> 00:33:29,560 It took a downward spiral. I mean, there's no other way to put it. It got 509 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,480 and worse and worse and worse. 510 00:33:32,540 --> 00:33:36,080 Depressed a lot, sleeping a lot, drinking too much. 511 00:33:36,860 --> 00:33:41,320 Brian found me on, passed out one time and I almost died of alcohol poisoning. 512 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,520 He was like 12 and found me on the floor with a bottle of vodka by my head. 513 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,280 No kid would have to see something like that. 514 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:51,560 Craziness. 515 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,500 When my mother remarried and my stepfather came into the picture, there 516 00:33:56,500 --> 00:33:59,980 lot of drug abuse on the side of them, and there was a lot of neglect. 517 00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:05,040 My stepfather was very physically abusive with my sister and myself. 518 00:34:05,690 --> 00:34:09,650 I would be grounded to my room. Oh, you're grounded for the next six months. 519 00:34:09,650 --> 00:34:14,630 know, I better not see you out of your room. He had dogs more or less trained 520 00:34:14,630 --> 00:34:18,949 abuse me as well. And if I was grounded, like these dogs would make sure I was 521 00:34:18,949 --> 00:34:19,949 kept in my room. 522 00:34:20,090 --> 00:34:23,150 Like they would bark at me and they would bite me and they would physically 523 00:34:23,150 --> 00:34:27,050 keep me in my room because of how I was verbally and physically abused by my 524 00:34:27,050 --> 00:34:32,449 stepdad. Like these dogs would adopt that mentality of like attacking me. 525 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:45,540 And I was just so abused that my social, developing socially was very hard for 526 00:34:45,540 --> 00:34:46,540 me. 527 00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:53,620 And that's how, you know, nobody took 528 00:34:53,620 --> 00:34:55,659 me out to throw a baseball with me, you know. 529 00:34:57,780 --> 00:35:03,900 Nobody took me out to throw a football, you know. So I went to school. I didn't 530 00:35:03,900 --> 00:35:05,180 know how to play sports, you know. 531 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,880 I wasn't very athletic, you know. So I couldn't catch football. 532 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,160 Couldn't throw a baseball. 533 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:18,380 But I was big into games and video games and stuff. And I had a GameCube. And 534 00:35:18,380 --> 00:35:22,520 eventually he caught on to that. My stepdad would catch on to that shit. 535 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,300 unplug it. You know, he'd throw it against the wall. 536 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,700 It's like everything I ever latched on to or loved was taken away. 537 00:35:33,220 --> 00:35:35,980 It was hard. It was a hard time. 538 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,240 While Brian Jr. 539 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,880 and Brittany grow up with Melanie, Danielle lives with her mother. As the 540 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,100 siblings drift apart, their Aunt Linda takes action. 541 00:35:48,580 --> 00:35:54,480 At least once or twice a month, I would get them together. And so they didn't 542 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:55,960 lose contact with each other. 543 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,920 She is literally everything. 544 00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:04,240 I swear I think that she is a true angel. 545 00:36:05,210 --> 00:36:08,770 I don't have a mom, but she's the closest thing I have to as a mom. 546 00:36:09,090 --> 00:36:13,610 I can call her at any time. I mean, she took me in. You know, she bought this 547 00:36:13,610 --> 00:36:15,910 house so we could have a home and a family. 548 00:36:16,850 --> 00:36:21,290 And I just, I don't know what I would do without her. I really don't. 549 00:36:26,290 --> 00:36:27,750 They'd all come to my house. 550 00:36:30,110 --> 00:36:32,350 There's a spider in the bathtub upstairs. 551 00:36:33,470 --> 00:36:38,190 I don't kill anything, you know. I always take them outside when I find 552 00:36:39,370 --> 00:36:42,630 Brian has a deadly fear of spiders. 553 00:36:45,070 --> 00:36:49,430 And there's one I saw this morning. I thought, oh, I'll get that later. I 554 00:36:49,430 --> 00:36:50,950 think he'd go to the bathroom. 555 00:36:54,510 --> 00:36:57,670 I love Linda to death, and she helped the kids a lot. 556 00:36:58,010 --> 00:37:01,910 And I just want them to forgive me. 557 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,880 Do I know if they will or not? I don't know. 558 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:11,680 Brian Pillman lives on in the hearts and minds of his family, but his legacy 559 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,860 would return to the ring in a way no one would anticipate. 560 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,920 Brian Pillman's legacy in wrestling lives on in that he created a character 561 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,540 people still remember to this day because it was in large part himself. 562 00:37:32,620 --> 00:37:37,940 He's a guy that overcame a lot of odds and totally kicked ass in an industry of 563 00:37:37,940 --> 00:37:40,980 guys that were much larger than him. 564 00:37:41,500 --> 00:37:45,620 I would have loved to see what the next 10 years would have played out for him 565 00:37:45,620 --> 00:37:47,340 had he never had that damn car wreck. 566 00:37:50,340 --> 00:37:55,040 He knew the hand that he was dealt after the accident. 567 00:37:56,500 --> 00:38:00,280 It wasn't a damn thing he could do about it, but you killed him. 568 00:38:01,420 --> 00:38:04,340 Figuratively, and I think eventually, literally. 569 00:38:06,500 --> 00:38:12,700 Brian's death started a domino effect that forced people to recognize the 570 00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:19,680 steroid issue, but put extra focus on the real cause of people dying too 571 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,300 which is pills. 572 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:28,520 The only hurdle he couldn't get across was the last one, and it was his own 573 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,520 that had betrayed him. 574 00:38:32,230 --> 00:38:37,770 The biggest legacy, though, unfortunately, is what would have been, 575 00:38:37,770 --> 00:38:42,710 would have gone, what heights he would have achieved, how much bigger and 576 00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:43,710 he would have gotten. 577 00:38:43,870 --> 00:38:48,450 He saw the end goal. He was so close to really just completely making it in 578 00:38:48,450 --> 00:38:53,670 wrestling. Would he have been, along with The Rock and Steve Austin and a few 579 00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:56,090 other guys, the biggest star in wrestling five years later? 580 00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:58,550 Probably. One of them. 581 00:39:12,289 --> 00:39:14,250 Just rebuild my relationship with my kids. 582 00:39:16,010 --> 00:39:19,690 Have my kids not be mad at me by the time I die. 583 00:39:19,930 --> 00:39:21,010 We'll see if that happens. 584 00:39:26,190 --> 00:39:27,370 You know, my dad's not here. 585 00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:31,130 So if I got one parent left that I can go, oh, well, you know, that's my mom. 586 00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:34,870 That's just the way she is, you know. Like, sure, I could live the rest of my 587 00:39:34,870 --> 00:39:37,030 life hating her. But where does that get me? 588 00:39:38,850 --> 00:39:42,710 Ever since I've rekindled my relationship with her, I've been happier 589 00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:46,450 personal life. I've been better in my relationships with women. I've been more 590 00:39:46,450 --> 00:39:50,850 understanding of people's plights and people's vices. I've been just a much 591 00:39:50,850 --> 00:39:54,430 mature adult in general since I've buried the hatchet with my mother, so to 592 00:39:54,430 --> 00:39:59,430 speak. And in many ways, I'm very happy that I have a parent left on this earth 593 00:39:59,430 --> 00:40:04,390 to speak to and talk to, you know. I called Mel a time or two, and, man, we 594 00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:07,850 lost contact. And, man, I reached out to... 595 00:40:08,380 --> 00:40:12,200 You know, Brian Jr., a couple years ago, I had one of Brian's old weightlifting 596 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,700 belts. Out of nowhere, a sign from the wrestling gods comes in the form of a 597 00:40:16,700 --> 00:40:21,580 cell phone call from Stone Cold Steve Austin to tell me that he has a Cardillo 598 00:40:21,580 --> 00:40:26,220 weightlifting belt that belonged to my father and that he wants to mail it to 599 00:40:26,220 --> 00:40:30,000 and give it to me. And I'm like, you know what? If that's a sign, that's a 600 00:40:30,820 --> 00:40:34,500 Following in his father's footsteps, Brian Pillman Jr. 601 00:40:34,820 --> 00:40:37,000 decides to become a professional wrestler. 602 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,080 When he first said he was going to wrestle, like, it struck terror in my 603 00:40:43,180 --> 00:40:45,740 I was like, oh, my God, I'll have fractured relationships. 604 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,040 His kids won't get the attention. He's going to travel all the time. He's not 605 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,040 going to be able. 606 00:40:50,380 --> 00:40:52,980 And then I saw him perform. 607 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:59,340 And I saw the look on his face when he knew that he was creating homage to his 608 00:40:59,340 --> 00:41:00,340 dad. 609 00:41:03,940 --> 00:41:07,720 And I realized this is it. This is what's supposed to happen. 610 00:41:08,620 --> 00:41:11,860 He just woke up one day and he was going to be a wrestler. And I literally 611 00:41:11,860 --> 00:41:13,760 laughed. I'm like, you, a wrestler? 612 00:41:14,180 --> 00:41:17,600 All you do is sit in your room and play video games. There's no way that you're 613 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:18,600 going to be a wrestler. 614 00:41:18,860 --> 00:41:23,740 And it was just crazy. Like, he was determined and he quit his job that he 615 00:41:23,740 --> 00:41:24,840 just graduated college. 616 00:41:25,140 --> 00:41:29,900 And he was going to do it. And I was very hesitant at first just because of 617 00:41:29,900 --> 00:41:33,340 everything my dad went through. And I didn't want my brother to fall into that 618 00:41:33,340 --> 00:41:35,000 same lifestyle. So I was scared. 619 00:41:35,820 --> 00:41:37,900 I think he'd be proud of it. 620 00:41:38,380 --> 00:41:40,460 His son wants to carry on the Pillman name. 621 00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:42,780 He wants to make his father proud of him. 622 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:48,680 He wants to accomplish something on his own, but yet pay tribute to his dad. 623 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,800 I think Brian would be into that. I just think he might be worried that Brian 624 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,160 Jr. is in it all by himself. 625 00:41:55,420 --> 00:41:58,680 He's got some people looking out for him, but I think Brian Sr. 626 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,720 would a whole lot rather be there and keep an eye on him. 627 00:42:02,140 --> 00:42:03,820 Great kid, looks a lot like his dad. 628 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,180 And I talked to him about these things. 629 00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:11,730 There's a lot of great traits, Brian, that your dad had that I hope to God you 630 00:42:11,730 --> 00:42:12,850 can acquire. 631 00:42:14,490 --> 00:42:18,270 And then there are some, not so much. 632 00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:22,530 You have to learn where you draw the line. 633 00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:28,690 Use his passion, use his intellect, use his athletic ability, use his love of 634 00:42:28,690 --> 00:42:29,690 the game. 635 00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:32,890 But then don't get too far off the beaten path. 636 00:42:33,490 --> 00:42:34,550 Don't be a loose cannon. 637 00:42:35,459 --> 00:42:37,000 Brian Jr., don't be a loose cannon. 638 00:42:37,340 --> 00:42:39,800 You know, 639 00:42:40,940 --> 00:42:44,200 a lot of people, oh, you know, do you think your dad would want you to 640 00:42:44,340 --> 00:42:47,880 And it's like, well, he kind of put a stamp of approval on me to be a wrestler 641 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,640 when he named me Brian Philman, you know. 642 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,420 There's really no going back at this point. So, no, it's just tragic to know 643 00:42:54,420 --> 00:43:00,120 that we never got to have that ultimate father -son relationship. But in a way, 644 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,400 it inspires me to... 645 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:11,200 to be a good father one day, you know? So I think that's my goal in all of 646 00:43:11,220 --> 00:43:14,040 through wrestling and everything, to be a father. 647 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,180 Now, that photo is very symbolic to me, you know? 648 00:43:23,740 --> 00:43:30,080 He's kind of holding me up, and I always look at it for inspiration, you know? 649 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,400 So I would hope that one day I would... 650 00:43:33,660 --> 00:43:39,560 You know, have a son like that, you know, to kind of hold up as the future, 651 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,140 know. It's like he's kind of giving me his blessing there in the photo, so. 652 00:43:45,700 --> 00:43:48,340 He contributed a whole lot to the wrestling business. 653 00:43:48,740 --> 00:43:53,320 He pushed the envelope. The loose cannon gimmick is one of the best ones ever 654 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,500 created. And Brian was one of the best friends that I had in business. 655 00:43:58,060 --> 00:44:01,500 And I hope that he thought the same about me. I love Brian. 58900

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