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Kobe, you've been
pretty critical of the AAU system
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and the way American players
are brought up.
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Not pretty critical,
I'm extremely critical. I hate it.
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Because?
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Well, because it doesn't teach our players
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how to play the right way.
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Or how to think the game,
how to play in combinations of threes.
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I think everything is, uh, you know,
it's a reward system.
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I think, uh, the coaches who are--
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who aren't teaching the game
and getting rewarded
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in one fashion or another,
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and, uh, it's just a showcase.
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- Do you feel like that--
- It's absolutely horrible for the game.
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So, as an American,
when you're good at basketball...
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...that's the only thing you want
to envision from the time you're 12.
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When you come up
in America, your goal is the NBA.
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That's all you see.
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That's all you want to be a part of.
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There's only 450 players in NBA.
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With the first pick
in the 2025 NBA draft,
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the Dallas Mavericks select Cooper Flagg.
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And there's only 60 players
that are eligible to be drafted.
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It's way more than 60 players
going for those spots.
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So it's really, like, you know,
a lottery in a sense.
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On the women's side,
it's a little different.
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So you only have
one opportunity to get drafted,
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and then once that's over, that's over.
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Playing overseas
is honestly where the money is.
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I gotta go overseas
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and then possibly try
and make my way back over.
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Everybody
that plays ball overseas
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has an interesting story,
because nobody set out to play overseas.
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You put all your efforts
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and everything you can
into making the NBA.
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I got waived, like, right before
the season was about to start.
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And then I went undrafted.
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My agent told me, instead,
"You've got a offer in Italy."
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Detroit says, "We want to pick you.
I think a 33rd pick, a 36th pick?
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But we want you to do a year overseas."
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Hell no.
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That shit says, "Siberia."
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Like, where we at?
Where did I... What the...
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What did I get myself into, man?
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So, off the lines, you wait for me!
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Off the line! And all of you! Okay?!
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This is the reality of life
is you gotta figure shit out.
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We're stepping outside
of our comfort zone
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to pursue a lifelong dream.
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All I've ever wanted
to do since I was seven
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was be a professional basketball player.
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I had a lot of success early.
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You know, I was always
a really good shooter.
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So, I knew I had
a lot of confidence early.
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Now he have
Michael Creppy...
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There's a huge misconception
about international basketball.
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I've literally heard people say
that it's semi-pro,
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and that couldn't be
further from the truth.
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You hear Luca, you hear Giannis,
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and a lot of these NBA players say that
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the EuroLeague is much harder
than the NBA.
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They're-- they're very vocal about that.
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Kobe Bryant, he made
a statement a few years ago
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that said international basketball is
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a better brand of basketball
than here in the States.
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And he got a lot backlash for that.
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You know, and I-- I got lucky
'cause I grew up in Europe.
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- Right.
- And you know,
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everything there was still fundamental.
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So I learned all the basics.
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And I think we're doing
a tremendous disservice
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to our young basketball players right now.
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That's something
that definitely needs to be fixed,
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and it's going to be one
of things I definitely focus on.
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I think my dream
has become my family's dream.
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My mother, she didn't know
anything about basketball,
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and now you can talk
to her, she can tell you
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about who she thinks is
a good player and a bad player.
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She can talk to you about a pick and roll
and about who doesn't play defense.
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My college recruitment, it was short.
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My sophomore year, I jumped out there,
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and I said I want to go to Louisville
and play for Rick Pitino.
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So, Coach Pitino was one
of the first coaches
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to come visit me during my recruitment.
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So he came to my school, he kind of spoke,
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and he spoke to my family,
spoke to my high school head coach,
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and that night I committed.
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So, um, it-- it was short
because I called out, you know,
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where I wanted to go,
and it ended up happening.
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The amount
of opportunities there are
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to get paid to play basketball
outside of the States,
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if you could think of a country
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or you think of a continent,
they have basketball there.
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Basketball in China probably
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is the best basketball market
in the world.
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Even in the States.
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Somebody told me a stat,
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and I believe it
after living there for two years,
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there are more people
that play basketball in China
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than there are in the United States.
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I lived in Shanghai,
and I lived in Nanjing.
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Like, those courts are packed.
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Every-- every day after three o'clock
when people get off work,
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on the weekends, during the mornings,
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like, it's an insane basketball market.
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They really love the game out there.
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I didn't know anything
about the Italian League.
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I didn't know about--
anything about the tradition.
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I just knew that, you know, Italians,
they love pasta and things like that.
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I ended up signing a contract
to go play in Turkey.
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I go to Iran. So I go
to the Middle East for the first time.
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Then I come back to Italy, to Lebanon.
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From Lebanon, I go to New Zealand.
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I never really looked at basketball
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as one of those things
I was just really good at.
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From New Zealand, I go to Italy.
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From Italy, I go to France.
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I did it 'cause it was fun.
Kept me outta trouble.
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From France, I go to Germany.
From Germany to Egypt.
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I played in Greece, Israel, Switzerland,
Turkey, and Australia.
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Egypt to Iraq. And now
I'm going to Saudi Arabia.
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Y'all come off the pick tentative,
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then it's gonna be hard...
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Players that are coming up
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that don't have the right resources
in terms of agents
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and mentors in this space
get scammed a lot.
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I had a contract one year
where I played in Czech Republic
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where I got a bonus
for every basket that I scored.
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I didn't even know you could get that.
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You know, my agent
at the time got that for me,
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and that opened my mind up to, like,
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you can ask for anything.
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You know, you ask for a horse
if you want one, you know,
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and if the team agrees to it,
they agree to it.
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If we don't do this together,
I'm talking about all of us,
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then we all lose.
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Let's go get it, man.
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Let's get working.
Come on, man.
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Vindicated Sports is
my company that I founded in 2017.
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I started the company literally
to educate and advise players
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on the business
of international basketball.
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In this industry, if you have
a gap in your profile,
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which means if you have a year
or more away from the game,
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you're basically damaged goods
to the industry.
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They don't care what I went through.
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"Are you able to play now
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and can you produce the way
we want you to produce?"
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And it sounds heartless,
it sounds inhumane,
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but that's the reality of this industry.
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I essentially became what I needed.
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I'm giving more direction
to players coming up,
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and I can kind of help them navigate this,
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this-- this interesting world
that they're in.
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So I'm Garric Young.
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If you're in the DMV,
you probably know me as Ross.
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I play forward, small forward,
power forward.
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If you need a shooting guard
or center, who knows.
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Wherever you need me.
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One day, I was working out
with one of my close friends,
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and some guy walks into the gym.
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He talked to me about what he was doing.
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His name is, uh, Mike Creppy.
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Takes players on tours
and does consulting for them.
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I felt like I-- I tried out
just to get my career started.
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I wasn't hearing from any NBA teams
or G League teams.
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I tried the tour.
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I believe it was about a week
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in Denmark, um, in Copenhagen
or Copen-ha-gen.
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Don't know how you pronounce it.
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I felt like I did pretty well at the tour.
I had a good time.
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Showed my skillset,
at least a good part of it.
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Then afterwards, just stayed
in contact with Mike,
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and then an agent reached out to me
after the tour from the player agency.
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The best opportunity that came up for me
was to play in Germany.
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It was called Oberliga,
or more-- more specifically Bayernliga,
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which is, uh, in South Germany.
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- Uh, can I get a café latte?
- Mm-hmm.
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With caramel?
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Caramel syrup, okay.
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I've known Lindsey and her family
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since she was maybe nine or 10 years old.
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She's from my area
in Silver Spring, Maryland.
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She used to always come up to the same gym
that we would train at,
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and her dad would ask,
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"Hey, can Lindsey jump
in the drills with you?"
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And she played a lot better than boys.
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They call her Pull-Up Pulliam,
because her mid-range game is so polished.
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And, uh, and she had that ever since
she was AAU in high school age.
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How'd you find this restaurant,
or this coffee shop?
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- Mm.
- It's pretty cool.
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Honestly, I was just looking
on, like, Bolt Food one day.
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Uh-huh.
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And I saw it, and I saw the acai bowl.
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- And that was it for you?
- Over. Mm-hmm.
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And it's funny 'cause,
like, when I'm overseas,
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I find myself-- Like, I'll go
to McDonald's sometimes.
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More-- Like, I don't go at home.
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- You would never go back home. Yeah.
- I would never go at home.
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But I don't know, it's just different here
'cause you want to get a taste
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of, like, being at home
in the States and stuff, so...
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The last time I saw Garric play
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was literally at our showcase
in Denmark in 2023.
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- You good?
- Boy!
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Long time, no see.
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Since then, I've been seeing
his Instagram posts
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and different highlights,
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but I've never seen him play in person.
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So the role I play
with Garric now is just advisor,
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somebody that's like
a big brother, big homie,
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somebody that has lived
in what he's trying to go into,
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different places overseas.
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I've seen a lot of contracts.
I know how to negotiate.
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I know what the teams are thinking.
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So, just giving him perspective
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and just being what I needed
when I was his age.
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And so, as we're interviewing
the different players,
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they're telling the camera
about their journey.
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It's amazing what basketball
has been able to do
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for so many players.
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It's opened up the door to-- to the world,
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and, you know,
that's something that, you know,
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is a blessing from God because
so many people want to travel
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and they don't know how to travel.
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Do you know how to pronounce
the city that you're in?
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Um, I sure could try.
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I don't know if it would be spot on.
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Bonska... B--
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Alright. Banska? Bonska?
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- Banská.
- Banská Bystrica?
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Bystrika?
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Bystrica. Yeah.
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- That'll be good.
- Still learning.
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- Once I do my back, it's done for.
- It's almost like...
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Oh.
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Okay, see, for tomorrow,
it's gonna be practice at 9:30.
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It's just a shooting session,
okay, to warm up a little bit,
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and game is at 6:00, so please be ready.
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Lot of fans will come. So...
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Clearing you up?
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Every time that we have a home game,
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we-- we all come down here,
have team dinner.
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Mandatory, no phones, none of that.
Or you're getting fined.
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You didn't sit with me today.
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- What?
- You're mad at me?
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Um, that's my coach's daughter. Yeah.
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- That's her best friend.
- That's my little best friend.
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Coach didn't speak English.
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Um, my assistant coach
didn't speak English,
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but there was a-- there was
a couple guys on my team,
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uh, that spoke English
and-- and could translate to them
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or could translate to me,
so that helped me out a lot.
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But it was for the first time in my career
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that I played for a coach
who didn't speak English.
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So, me and him couldn't
communicate, uh, verbally.
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But, you know, just with
both loving the game
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and just seeing what's going in the game
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just through gestures
and pointing and stuff.
257
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The way international basketball
is broken down,
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you have the EuroLeague, right?
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The EuroLeague is right under the NBA,
it's the top of the top.
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Then you have EuroCup,
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then you have Basketball Champions League.
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And all of those teams that play
in international play
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also play in the domestic league.
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So, in South America, like, some
of the more notable countries
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are Uruguay, Brazil, Mexico, Puerto Rico.
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Than you have in Asia,
Australia, the Middle East.
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Then, a new league that just started,
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which the NBA has sponsored,
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is called the Basketball Africa League.
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The leagues that I personally think
are respected the most
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and are looked at
as the best leagues are Spain,
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Turkey, Russia.
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There might be Italy after that.
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- You know what I'm saying?
- Oh! He reaches.
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This is why
the Turkish Airlines EuroLeague
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is the best basketball league
in the world, bar none.
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Each league has
a different style of play, too.
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Like, the Spanish play a different way
than the Turkish play.
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The Italians play a different way.
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Spain, you gonna play 20 minutes
because it's 10, 11 guys
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that's on ice.
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Turkey, you going--
It's a lot of big dudes.
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Strong, physical. They real physic--
Let-- let you play more.
284
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Italian league is more of a guard league.
285
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So, you going out there, you get busy.
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France is a super athletic league.
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Russia's a dope league,
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you know, the VTB is a big time--
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That's another type of league
VTB is another type of league
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So, you got a lot of different leagues,
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and it's different style
based off of where you at.
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Just like, you know, you from the DMV,
you-- you play a certain way,
293
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as opposed to somebody from New York City,
294
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as opposed to someone from the South.
295
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You know, we-- we all have
our different styles,
296
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and these countries are the same way.
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No, it drops for Mike James.
298
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I met Marcus Williams
when he was a teammate with James
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in Unicaja Málaga in Spain.
300
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Marcus was also himself
a first round NBA draft pick.
301
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And he also had a prolific
EuroLeague career as well.
302
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So I played
summer league with Memphis,
303
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and I signed with Memphis for the season.
304
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But on that team, it was
a few guys who played in Europe,
305
00:16:33,784 --> 00:16:36,203
and they were just talking
about the teams they were on,
306
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the cities they were partying in,
and just different thing.
307
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And I'm like, "This is so--
308
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I don't know what
they talking about, man."
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Like, I-- not my first year playing
in-- in Europe, but my second year,
310
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I started to hear about EuroLeague.
311
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So I told my agent, like, I was
just like, "I just want to play."
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Like, my first year I was just like,
"I just want to play somewhere."
313
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And he was like,
"Alright, like, whatever."
314
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Like, "Alright, cool."
315
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So he found me a team in Russia, right?
316
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We was there for like two
or three weeks practicing.
317
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So they was like, "Alright,
we about to go home.
318
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Like, get you a apartment and everything."
319
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So they was like,
"Yeah, we flying to Moscow."
320
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And I was like, "Alright, and then what?
Like-- Like what's our next?"
321
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They was like, "Yeah,
the next flight is like six hours."
322
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I'm like, "What? Like, what you mean?"
323
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They like, "Yeah. Like, we stay,
like, six hours from Moscow."
324
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And I look at that shit
on my map, I'm like,
325
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"Wait, that shit says Siberia
in the back."
326
00:17:24,334 --> 00:17:26,462
And I'm looking at this,
and I'm like, "Wait,
327
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that's the same Siberia,
like the husky and like the...?"
328
00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:32,676
I go to list-- like, read about it,
329
00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,720
that shit say, "minus 30, minus 40."
330
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And that was just different, man.
331
00:17:36,055 --> 00:17:38,223
It was-- it was cold, it was bad travels.
332
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The basketball wasn't hard
to adjust at all.
333
00:17:40,517 --> 00:17:42,936
I kind of went with the mindset
of like, "Man,
334
00:17:43,020 --> 00:17:44,605
like, I should be in the NBA,"
335
00:17:44,688 --> 00:17:47,399
like kind of feeling like
I was better than that.
336
00:17:47,483 --> 00:17:49,109
So, the approach I took is like,
337
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"I'm just gonna try to come here
and kill every day."
338
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But then, you do get humbled
playing overseas,
339
00:17:53,155 --> 00:17:55,407
because like I said,
those guys are talented.
340
00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,833
Playing in the first division as a rookie,
341
00:18:04,917 --> 00:18:07,586
you playing against some
of the great talents of Europe.
342
00:18:07,669 --> 00:18:08,754
So, I was humbled,
343
00:18:08,837 --> 00:18:10,709
but I'm thankful that I was able
to hold my own as well.
344
00:18:11,924 --> 00:18:12,966
There's so many players,
345
00:18:13,050 --> 00:18:14,426
- there's so much talent...
346
00:18:14,510 --> 00:18:16,220
...and a team will put the money out there
347
00:18:16,303 --> 00:18:18,347
and they'll say like,
"Well, if you won't accept it,
348
00:18:18,430 --> 00:18:20,140
someone else will."
You know what I mean?
349
00:18:20,224 --> 00:18:22,351
And that's kind of like
the game that they play.
350
00:18:22,893 --> 00:18:25,562
Um, but yeah, that-- that's--
that's just one of the other things
351
00:18:25,646 --> 00:18:28,023
you have to go through
being an overseas player.
352
00:18:28,107 --> 00:18:29,775
Like, you know, in the NBA, you know,
353
00:18:29,858 --> 00:18:31,360
who you are is who you are,
354
00:18:31,443 --> 00:18:34,154
but overseas it's kind of like
you have to prove it every year.
355
00:18:38,951 --> 00:18:40,744
You can't understand
what everybody's talking about
356
00:18:40,828 --> 00:18:42,538
on the street or in the locker room
with your teammates
357
00:18:42,621 --> 00:18:44,998
when they're speaking
their-- their native language.
358
00:18:45,082 --> 00:18:47,960
You kind of have to be aware.
359
00:18:48,794 --> 00:18:51,130
You gotta be aware of your surroundings,
you gotta be, you know,
360
00:18:51,213 --> 00:18:53,006
street smart,
I guess people would call it.
361
00:18:53,090 --> 00:18:55,008
Understand, you know,
what's going on around you.
362
00:18:55,092 --> 00:18:56,552
- How are you?
- Good. And you?
363
00:18:56,635 --> 00:18:57,761
- Doing well.
- Thank you.
364
00:18:59,138 --> 00:19:00,305
Yes, sir.
365
00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,019
I'm okay, man. Thank you.
366
00:19:06,103 --> 00:19:08,147
You learn very quick.
You learn very quick.
367
00:19:08,230 --> 00:19:09,815
I mean, I've done enough traveling, too,
368
00:19:10,315 --> 00:19:13,152
you know, in general
around the world where
369
00:19:13,235 --> 00:19:15,612
everybody's trying to make a deal,
everybody's trying to sell something.
370
00:19:15,946 --> 00:19:18,407
And it's a hustle.
I mean, it is what it is. I respect it.
371
00:19:19,116 --> 00:19:20,617
You just gotta learn
how to get yourself in
372
00:19:20,701 --> 00:19:22,619
and get-- get yourself out.
373
00:19:23,203 --> 00:19:25,080
The hardest part is getting out
once you get in,
374
00:19:25,164 --> 00:19:26,290
they're not gonna let you leave.
375
00:19:31,461 --> 00:19:35,007
As soon as the season ended
in Germany in April, I just,
376
00:19:35,841 --> 00:19:36,925
I took a week to rest.
377
00:19:37,009 --> 00:19:38,927
I packed my stuff,
and I headed straight to Canada.
378
00:19:39,011 --> 00:19:41,513
And then, I ended up in Australia by 2024.
379
00:19:41,597 --> 00:19:46,310
All I knew about was, um, EuroLeague
and the CBA in China.
380
00:19:46,393 --> 00:19:48,604
Um, that's pretty much...
I just thought, like,
381
00:19:48,687 --> 00:19:51,440
old NBA veterans go overseas to play
382
00:19:51,523 --> 00:19:53,066
in the EuroLeague or-- or China
383
00:19:53,150 --> 00:19:55,068
when they're kind of towards
the end of their career,
384
00:19:55,152 --> 00:19:58,155
or if they kinda fall out of the NBA
385
00:19:58,238 --> 00:19:59,948
and they want to still continue
their career.
386
00:20:00,032 --> 00:20:01,742
I didn't know how vast it was.
387
00:20:01,825 --> 00:20:04,828
Like, how many opportunities,
how many teams, countries
388
00:20:04,912 --> 00:20:07,831
have leagues
until I started talking to Mike.
389
00:20:09,666 --> 00:20:11,543
Yeah, yeah,
it's supposed to be crazy.
390
00:20:12,586 --> 00:20:15,255
I didn't even know there was a league
in Denmark before the tour.
391
00:20:15,339 --> 00:20:16,882
Like, that-- that was a shock to me.
392
00:20:16,965 --> 00:20:18,800
Just finding out, there's so many,
393
00:20:18,884 --> 00:20:20,844
so many places to play
and leagues to play in.
394
00:20:20,928 --> 00:20:22,888
When I was younger, all I...
395
00:20:22,971 --> 00:20:24,932
...all I-- all I knew was the NBA
and G League.
396
00:20:25,015 --> 00:20:26,683
That's all I watched. That's...
397
00:20:27,559 --> 00:20:29,770
That's all that kind of mattered to me
growing up playing basketball.
398
00:20:29,853 --> 00:20:31,813
That's all I considered for my career.
399
00:20:31,897 --> 00:20:34,858
I thought it was NBA-slash-
G League or bust for me.
400
00:20:34,942 --> 00:20:37,152
Um, call me delusional if you will.
401
00:20:37,236 --> 00:20:39,696
I thought-- I thought I was--
I was gonna go, so,
402
00:20:40,197 --> 00:20:42,366
I felt-- I felt like I was gonna
figure out some way into it.
403
00:20:42,449 --> 00:20:44,743
It's hard to get into the WNBA.
404
00:20:44,826 --> 00:20:48,914
It's, uh... like I said, draft 36.
Thirty-six picks.
405
00:20:50,624 --> 00:20:54,294
If it's a good draft year,
maybe eight people will make the team.
406
00:20:55,128 --> 00:20:58,048
Once you get drafted,
like, nobody's guaranteed
407
00:20:58,131 --> 00:20:59,800
because spots are so limited.
408
00:20:59,883 --> 00:21:02,344
You kind of have to go
into that mindset of like, "Okay,
409
00:21:02,427 --> 00:21:04,596
"this is training camp,
it's a tryout for me,
410
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,267
and I gotta do whatever I can
to fight for however many spots it is."
411
00:21:08,350 --> 00:21:09,935
Probably a bench player
412
00:21:10,018 --> 00:21:12,980
that never touches the--
touches the court in the NBA
413
00:21:13,063 --> 00:21:15,524
is making more than any of us.
414
00:21:15,607 --> 00:21:16,942
- Shout.
- Oh my...
415
00:21:17,025 --> 00:21:19,069
- Right in your face.
- How we doing? How we doing?
416
00:21:19,152 --> 00:21:21,655
- We're doing good, how are you?
- Y'all got enough space?
417
00:21:21,738 --> 00:21:24,157
- Yeah.
- We take coach's spot.
418
00:21:25,909 --> 00:21:27,786
You know she's gonna park
right beside you, though.
419
00:21:27,869 --> 00:21:28,912
Yeah, I know she will.
420
00:21:28,996 --> 00:21:30,956
- She's not gonna care.
- I know.
421
00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:33,792
But still, figure I'd just...
422
00:21:35,210 --> 00:21:37,087
go ahead and mess with her a little bit.
423
00:21:38,255 --> 00:21:39,840
I think
we'll both be gone soon.
424
00:21:41,049 --> 00:21:46,471
I can't wait to sleep
in my bed at home, home.
425
00:21:46,555 --> 00:21:47,681
Oh, home, home.
426
00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:50,309
It's, like, unmatched,
427
00:21:50,392 --> 00:21:53,895
'cause I-- I can't--
Like, I can't do it with my bed anymore.
428
00:21:53,979 --> 00:21:55,856
Now just the shooting, okay?
429
00:22:06,199 --> 00:22:08,493
♪ It's the return of the Mack,
I'm back hunny ♪
430
00:22:08,577 --> 00:22:10,579
♪ I just hit the kill switch
feel it in ya tummy ♪
431
00:22:10,912 --> 00:22:13,457
♪ Ooh, I got the spice,
I know it right... ♪
432
00:22:13,540 --> 00:22:15,625
Just-- Just to think about it, okay?
433
00:22:17,419 --> 00:22:19,546
♪ You know what it is,
I'm a beast alright ♪
434
00:22:19,629 --> 00:22:22,382
My name is Ruth Sherrill.
I'm from Alexandria, Virginia.
435
00:22:22,466 --> 00:22:24,343
And I was the starting center
here at Slavia.
436
00:22:24,676 --> 00:22:27,971
In the semi-finals game, I was posting up,
437
00:22:28,055 --> 00:22:29,639
fucked-- messed my knee up.
438
00:22:29,723 --> 00:22:32,142
Uh, so yeah,
439
00:22:32,225 --> 00:22:34,019
I found out it was a partial ACL tear.
440
00:22:34,102 --> 00:22:36,521
But I do believe that
my impact with the team
441
00:22:36,605 --> 00:22:38,774
just being a leader,
being super communicative,
442
00:22:38,857 --> 00:22:41,735
being very supportive,
you know, on and off the court
443
00:22:41,818 --> 00:22:43,153
is the reason why I'm still here.
444
00:22:43,236 --> 00:22:45,697
So, there's different ways
that athletes can support their teams
445
00:22:45,781 --> 00:22:46,865
even when they can't play.
446
00:22:46,948 --> 00:22:49,743
I was told on graduation day
that I couldn't play anymore.
447
00:22:49,826 --> 00:22:52,162
So, I had like a really bad left foot,
448
00:22:52,245 --> 00:22:55,123
and, like, the X-ray... MRI came back,
449
00:22:55,207 --> 00:22:58,794
and it was like 75% black,
which it should not be.
450
00:22:58,877 --> 00:23:01,129
It should be more white
on that-- on the, uh, MRI.
451
00:23:01,213 --> 00:23:03,298
So he's like, "Yeah
we're going to try and fuse,
452
00:23:03,382 --> 00:23:05,926
"like, the Achilles
and, like, your tibia, like...
453
00:23:06,176 --> 00:23:07,552
You definitely won't be able to play."
454
00:23:07,636 --> 00:23:09,137
And I was like,
"Okay, that's not an option."
455
00:23:09,221 --> 00:23:11,848
And I just remember going home and
just being like, "What am I gonna do?"
456
00:23:11,932 --> 00:23:14,851
I mean, my best friend is Tina Charles,
she's the number one pick in the draft.
457
00:23:14,935 --> 00:23:16,311
And my mom-mom just said,
458
00:23:16,395 --> 00:23:18,063
"Hey, reach out to coach,
ask him about an agent."
459
00:23:18,146 --> 00:23:19,481
He got me an opportunity in Greece,
460
00:23:19,564 --> 00:23:21,483
and that's kinda how everything took off.
461
00:23:21,566 --> 00:23:23,068
The biggest thing with people,
462
00:23:23,151 --> 00:23:25,779
especially Americans when we come overseas
is that we get lonely.
463
00:23:25,862 --> 00:23:27,155
We by ourselves.
464
00:23:30,951 --> 00:23:34,079
My first job was in Italy,
a team called Angelico Biella.
465
00:23:34,162 --> 00:23:35,622
It was an experience, you know,
466
00:23:35,705 --> 00:23:38,125
knowing that I'm not about
to be in the States,
467
00:23:38,208 --> 00:23:39,376
and I'm by myself at the time.
468
00:23:39,459 --> 00:23:41,294
So, I'm going over to Italy
by myself, you know,
469
00:23:41,378 --> 00:23:43,004
I'm about to live
in a whole another country.
470
00:23:43,088 --> 00:23:45,132
No family, no friends, no nothing.
471
00:23:45,215 --> 00:23:48,677
Um... interesting.
472
00:23:50,762 --> 00:23:53,223
And as you can see,
I'm Mr. Everything.
473
00:23:53,306 --> 00:23:56,435
I'm the manager,
I'm the agent, I'm the coach.
474
00:23:56,518 --> 00:23:59,771
I'm the laundromat, I'm the financier.
475
00:23:59,855 --> 00:24:02,274
It's extremely hard because
476
00:24:02,983 --> 00:24:05,193
a lot of people view it
as you on vacation, one.
477
00:24:05,277 --> 00:24:07,320
Like, they don't understand
you're really working.
478
00:24:07,404 --> 00:24:08,488
Like, it's work.
479
00:24:08,572 --> 00:24:11,408
And so, they think that,
"Oh, you're in Athens, Greece,
480
00:24:11,491 --> 00:24:14,578
"or you're in these beautiful--
Madrid, Spain, and all of these places,
481
00:24:14,661 --> 00:24:16,496
why can't you answer the phone
when I'm calling you?"
482
00:24:16,580 --> 00:24:18,623
You know, "Why are you taking
so long to answer back?"
483
00:24:18,707 --> 00:24:20,792
And, like, you're working.
484
00:24:20,876 --> 00:24:23,044
There's a time difference,
there's all of these things, right?
485
00:24:23,128 --> 00:24:24,629
And obviously, if you want
to make it happen,
486
00:24:24,713 --> 00:24:25,797
you can make it happen.
487
00:24:25,881 --> 00:24:28,425
But it takes two people
that want to make it happen
488
00:24:28,508 --> 00:24:30,635
in terms of your spouse
and whoever that is.
489
00:24:30,719 --> 00:24:32,471
And then, obviously,
once you have kids involved,
490
00:24:32,554 --> 00:24:33,763
they do have international schools.
491
00:24:33,847 --> 00:24:36,266
But these are all things
that you can talk to your team about,
492
00:24:36,349 --> 00:24:37,559
and they'll help you set that up.
493
00:24:37,642 --> 00:24:39,936
Most FIBA, um, teams are reputable,
494
00:24:40,020 --> 00:24:41,480
and they want you to be comfortable,
495
00:24:41,563 --> 00:24:43,064
because if you're comfortable
off the court,
496
00:24:43,148 --> 00:24:44,357
you'll perform better on the court.
497
00:24:44,441 --> 00:24:46,401
When I first landed in Australia,
498
00:24:46,485 --> 00:24:48,570
I landed in Sydney, New South Wales.
499
00:24:48,653 --> 00:24:51,823
What hit me first was--
was the plane ride.
500
00:24:51,907 --> 00:24:53,617
That was the longest plane ride
of my life.
501
00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:56,036
That was-- That was a tough one for me.
502
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,498
Traveling to Tamworth,
like, there's a lot of greenery.
503
00:24:59,581 --> 00:25:01,500
You go through some bushland,
but it, for the most part,
504
00:25:01,583 --> 00:25:02,834
it's pretty-- it's pretty beautiful.
505
00:25:02,918 --> 00:25:05,170
Like, you go through mountains,
it's just, it was cool to see
506
00:25:05,253 --> 00:25:07,130
how different the terrain is
in the country.
507
00:25:07,214 --> 00:25:10,091
Like, how-- how vast
the ecosystem is out here.
508
00:25:10,175 --> 00:25:12,260
I saw my kangaroo on the side of the road.
509
00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:13,678
That was a big moment for me.
510
00:25:16,181 --> 00:25:18,600
Yesterday, I went to go pick up
my mom from the airport.
511
00:25:18,975 --> 00:25:19,976
That is my mom.
512
00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:22,145
- That's your mom?
- Yeah. Yee-hee.
513
00:25:27,317 --> 00:25:29,486
- Hi, Mom.
- Good to see you.
514
00:25:33,073 --> 00:25:34,574
I'm eating good.
I'm eating good this time.
515
00:25:34,658 --> 00:25:35,742
Good.
516
00:25:36,034 --> 00:25:37,577
- Mm. How are you?
- Oh!
517
00:25:37,661 --> 00:25:39,871
- Auntie Alba. How are you?
- Hi, sweetie.
518
00:25:39,955 --> 00:25:41,289
I'm good, thanks.
519
00:25:41,915 --> 00:25:43,041
Smooth flying?
520
00:25:43,124 --> 00:25:45,085
- You look so handsome.
- You really do.
521
00:25:45,168 --> 00:25:46,836
I had to look good
when you guys came, you know.
522
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,922
Okay, I'm stop--
I got it together. You know.
523
00:25:49,005 --> 00:25:50,465
You guys look a little tan.
524
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:53,051
Oh, we look a little tan?
525
00:25:54,094 --> 00:25:56,930
It's always a really
emotional moment when I pick her up.
526
00:25:57,013 --> 00:25:58,557
We always miss each other a bunch.
527
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,934
If she can, wherever I am in the world,
528
00:26:01,017 --> 00:26:02,894
she-- she, like-- she loves traveling.
529
00:26:02,978 --> 00:26:06,022
She misses me 'cause I-- I go
long stints without seeing her.
530
00:26:06,106 --> 00:26:08,525
And I'm kind of a mama's boy,
not gonna lie.
531
00:26:08,608 --> 00:26:11,152
So, she just came to see me, to be honest.
532
00:26:11,236 --> 00:26:13,446
She wanted to see a game
while she was here.
533
00:26:13,530 --> 00:26:15,824
I feel like that just made
the most sense, you know,
534
00:26:15,907 --> 00:26:17,993
to see the reason why I'm
out here pursuing this career.
535
00:26:22,163 --> 00:26:24,291
So, when you came, was the water warm?
536
00:26:24,374 --> 00:26:26,334
Yeah, it was a little warmer, like...
537
00:26:26,418 --> 00:26:28,587
- But it is the Pacific--
- It was just, it was a lot warmer outside.
538
00:26:28,670 --> 00:26:30,714
- Yeah, so it was refreshing
- It's not as warm as it was back home.
539
00:26:30,797 --> 00:26:32,007
Yeah, it was nice. It felt good.
540
00:26:32,090 --> 00:26:33,550
I mean the Pacific
is always gonna be the Pacific.
541
00:26:33,633 --> 00:26:35,343
Just like the Atlantic
is always gonna be the Atlantic.
542
00:26:35,427 --> 00:26:37,304
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
It's calm though, it's nice.
543
00:26:37,387 --> 00:26:39,389
High school was like
very cultural for you.
544
00:26:39,472 --> 00:26:40,849
- Because you had so many--
- True.
545
00:26:40,932 --> 00:26:42,100
It was very diverse...
546
00:26:42,183 --> 00:26:44,728
- Yes, it was.
- ...in terms of cultures.
547
00:26:44,811 --> 00:26:47,022
But also, in some
of the places you've been,
548
00:26:47,105 --> 00:26:49,566
you've just been able to travel.
549
00:26:49,649 --> 00:26:51,526
So, Europe, right?
So when you were in Germany,
550
00:26:51,985 --> 00:26:53,820
it was a small town,
551
00:26:53,903 --> 00:26:55,238
but, like, we went to Salzburg,
552
00:26:55,322 --> 00:26:56,865
- I mean everything...
- Yeah, Munich.
553
00:26:56,948 --> 00:26:58,658
Munich,
everything was just so close.
554
00:26:58,742 --> 00:27:01,828
So you can experience
so many different things.
555
00:27:01,911 --> 00:27:04,122
Even being centrally located in one area.
556
00:27:04,205 --> 00:27:05,248
That's true. And it's--
557
00:27:05,332 --> 00:27:07,792
It's a lot different
living somewhere than, like,
558
00:27:07,876 --> 00:27:08,960
visiting for vacation.
559
00:27:09,044 --> 00:27:10,545
I think that was
the biggest difference.
560
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,005
It is crazy though.
561
00:27:12,088 --> 00:27:14,841
I hope, like, the career
I can just show you
562
00:27:14,924 --> 00:27:15,925
more and more places.
563
00:27:16,009 --> 00:27:19,638
Whoever-- Wherever I play next,
we'll see, somewhere crazy.
564
00:27:20,096 --> 00:27:22,015
Maybe a dream destination.
565
00:27:22,098 --> 00:27:24,559
I mean, it doesn't matter really.
566
00:27:24,643 --> 00:27:26,269
- That's true.
- You know this, again...
567
00:27:26,353 --> 00:27:27,812
As long as
you guys are there. Yeah.
568
00:27:27,896 --> 00:27:29,856
- ...you go, I travel.
- Yeah.
569
00:27:29,939 --> 00:27:32,067
I told you, wherever you go
in the world, I will be there.
570
00:27:32,150 --> 00:27:33,193
That's true.
571
00:27:33,276 --> 00:27:34,402
Hook or crook.
572
00:27:40,241 --> 00:27:43,745
As a mom, you're always excited
to get the FaceTime call,
573
00:27:43,828 --> 00:27:45,789
but there was a rough patch there
where I'd be like,
574
00:27:45,872 --> 00:27:47,457
"Oh, my God, she's calling again!
575
00:27:47,540 --> 00:27:48,917
"She's gonna be--
She's gonna be crying.
576
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,710
She's gonna want to come home.
Call your father!"
577
00:27:50,794 --> 00:27:52,003
Like, can you talk to her
578
00:27:52,087 --> 00:27:53,880
- 'cause I can't hear it again.
- I tell her, "Suck it up."
579
00:27:54,381 --> 00:27:57,008
Well, I can tell,
definitely, like, haven't seen
580
00:27:57,092 --> 00:27:59,678
anyone love the game as much as her.
581
00:28:00,095 --> 00:28:03,807
Um, literally puts
all of her dedication into it.
582
00:28:03,890 --> 00:28:05,850
Her p-- I can tell it's her passion.
583
00:28:05,934 --> 00:28:08,520
Um, been at, like, most of her games.
584
00:28:08,603 --> 00:28:10,021
Always, like, running around
585
00:28:10,105 --> 00:28:12,148
with whoever had younger siblings
at her games.
586
00:28:12,232 --> 00:28:14,734
I'm happy to see her living out
her dream right now
587
00:28:14,818 --> 00:28:15,985
going overseas.
588
00:28:16,069 --> 00:28:17,737
Rivals with a chance here
589
00:28:17,821 --> 00:28:19,030
to win it at the death.
590
00:28:19,114 --> 00:28:21,825
You can restart--
Sosa in the corner for the win!
591
00:28:21,908 --> 00:28:23,243
- He drains it!
592
00:28:23,326 --> 00:28:26,788
Édgar Sosa comes up
with the enormous play!
593
00:28:26,871 --> 00:28:27,997
You can't get time back.
594
00:28:28,081 --> 00:28:32,210
And sometimes I feel...
not that I feel a little guilty,
595
00:28:32,293 --> 00:28:33,461
but sometimes I do,
596
00:28:33,545 --> 00:28:36,881
because it's kind of like
I'm leaving my-- my family,
597
00:28:36,965 --> 00:28:39,926
my loved ones every year to go do my job
598
00:28:40,009 --> 00:28:41,177
and do something I love.
599
00:28:41,261 --> 00:28:44,848
But, you know, the nine-and-a-half,
ten months that I'm not with them,
600
00:28:44,931 --> 00:28:46,433
like that's-- I can't get that back.
601
00:28:46,516 --> 00:28:51,271
So it's kind of like...
am I putting my dream before my family
602
00:28:51,354 --> 00:28:52,731
or my job before my family?
603
00:28:52,814 --> 00:28:54,315
So, sometimes I battle with that,
604
00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:56,443
um, but I have conversations with them
605
00:28:56,526 --> 00:28:58,570
and they let me-- they let me know
that they know that
606
00:28:58,653 --> 00:29:01,781
I'm doing the right thing by following
my dream and doing my job.
607
00:29:01,865 --> 00:29:04,451
So, I try to stay as close
as I can with my family
608
00:29:04,534 --> 00:29:06,536
as far as FaceTime
and text and stuff like that.
609
00:29:06,953 --> 00:29:09,831
The first time I heard
the word "import" was in Germany.
610
00:29:11,958 --> 00:29:14,252
It was interesting to hear it.
611
00:29:14,335 --> 00:29:15,670
It's like, "What do you mean 'import'?"
612
00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:17,964
'Cause when people describe you
to somebody else,
613
00:29:18,047 --> 00:29:20,175
they'll say, "This is like,
this is our American import."
614
00:29:20,258 --> 00:29:22,093
I've started to understand
what it means more
615
00:29:22,177 --> 00:29:23,928
'cause we're kind of imported goods.
616
00:29:24,012 --> 00:29:26,765
You know, um, these leagues have
their-- their local players.
617
00:29:26,848 --> 00:29:28,641
There's really no limit
on how many players
618
00:29:28,725 --> 00:29:30,602
in the country can play on that team.
619
00:29:30,685 --> 00:29:32,645
If they want somebody for a specific task
620
00:29:32,729 --> 00:29:34,397
or to really elevate the team,
621
00:29:34,481 --> 00:29:37,942
um, Americans are pretty much considered
the gold standard still
622
00:29:38,026 --> 00:29:39,444
for basketball, I'd say.
623
00:29:39,527 --> 00:29:43,114
So they kinda import us
to help elevate their team,
624
00:29:43,531 --> 00:29:45,825
bring us from another country, fly us out,
625
00:29:45,909 --> 00:29:48,077
put us on a plane,
and then we get to work.
626
00:29:52,832 --> 00:29:54,584
A lot of NBA players can't play
627
00:29:54,667 --> 00:29:56,377
the style of play
that they play in Europe.
628
00:29:56,461 --> 00:29:58,338
They go over there,
and it's just not what they think about,
629
00:29:58,421 --> 00:29:59,422
what they thought it was.
630
00:29:59,506 --> 00:30:01,257
And it might not just be on the court.
631
00:30:01,341 --> 00:30:03,676
Like, 'cause you can't deny
their talent on the court,
632
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,345
but can you survive off the court?
633
00:30:05,428 --> 00:30:07,889
Can you adjust to the culture,
the lack of amenities
634
00:30:07,972 --> 00:30:09,933
that you're used to getting in the NBA?
635
00:30:10,016 --> 00:30:14,979
A lot of teams don't have
five trainers, cryo machines,
636
00:30:15,063 --> 00:30:16,773
and game-ready machines.
637
00:30:16,856 --> 00:30:18,608
Sometimes, you have
to tape your own ankles.
638
00:30:18,691 --> 00:30:20,527
Sometimes, you have
to go to the grocery store
639
00:30:20,610 --> 00:30:22,695
and get frozen vegetables
to ice your knees.
640
00:30:23,613 --> 00:30:25,240
Aaron Brooks was-- was a very good player.
641
00:30:25,323 --> 00:30:27,909
I believe he got Sixth Man of the Year,
most improved, one of those awards.
642
00:30:27,992 --> 00:30:31,120
So he was a really good player in the NBA,
and he went to China.
643
00:30:31,204 --> 00:30:34,249
He's a multimillionaire,
and he's getting paid millions.
644
00:30:34,332 --> 00:30:37,043
But his apartment that he was staying in
didn't even have a stove.
645
00:30:37,126 --> 00:30:39,879
He was using a hot plate
to heat up his food.
646
00:30:39,963 --> 00:30:41,381
And so, these are just
some of the examples
647
00:30:41,464 --> 00:30:43,258
that if you come play overseas,
648
00:30:43,341 --> 00:30:44,843
you have to love basketball.
649
00:30:45,343 --> 00:30:48,054
If you don't love basketball,
you're going to be miserable
650
00:30:48,137 --> 00:30:50,390
because basketball will be
the highlight of your day.
651
00:30:50,807 --> 00:30:52,433
Don't listen to the cap, bro.
652
00:30:53,268 --> 00:30:54,978
I'm a little superstitious.
653
00:30:55,270 --> 00:30:58,106
Um, as soon as I wake up
on game day, I have to meditate.
654
00:30:58,189 --> 00:30:59,607
I used to just look it up on YouTube,
655
00:30:59,691 --> 00:31:01,317
now I have this app called Calm.
656
00:31:01,401 --> 00:31:03,862
Um, I saw LeBron James use it,
so I was like,
657
00:31:03,945 --> 00:31:05,238
"Yeah, I might as well use it."
658
00:31:05,864 --> 00:31:08,783
Before games, I definitely need
to listen to music.
659
00:31:08,867 --> 00:31:11,202
Like, I'm listening to, like,
some calming music.
660
00:31:11,286 --> 00:31:13,496
I like older music.
Like, I listen to Roy Ayers,
661
00:31:13,580 --> 00:31:15,999
like Everybody Loves the Sunshine or...
662
00:31:16,666 --> 00:31:18,418
Searching or Isley Brothers.
663
00:31:18,501 --> 00:31:20,587
I like Sade before the game.
664
00:31:20,670 --> 00:31:22,839
Just smoother, chill vibes.
665
00:31:22,922 --> 00:31:25,800
It helps me stay calm,
not get too antsy before the game.
666
00:31:25,884 --> 00:31:28,303
Just vibing out, singing,
listening to the tunes.
667
00:31:30,096 --> 00:31:33,808
It just kinda-- It gets me
in, like, a... a serene head space.
668
00:31:33,892 --> 00:31:35,435
Like, I-- I feel good before the game.
669
00:31:35,518 --> 00:31:37,937
♪ Will you keep on loving me ♪
670
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,691
♪ You give me,
you're giving me the ♪
671
00:31:41,774 --> 00:31:44,193
♪ Sweetest taboo ♪
672
00:31:44,694 --> 00:31:46,195
♪ Too good for me ♪
673
00:31:49,407 --> 00:31:51,868
- ♪ There's a quiet storm ♪
674
00:31:51,951 --> 00:31:55,079
♪ And it never felt like this before ♪
675
00:31:55,163 --> 00:31:59,459
♪ There's a quiet storm that is you ♪
676
00:32:00,418 --> 00:32:05,173
♪ There's a quiet storm
and it never felt this hot before ♪
677
00:32:05,256 --> 00:32:06,424
♪ Giving me something... ♪
678
00:32:06,507 --> 00:32:09,218
Nobody has us winning this game.
679
00:32:09,594 --> 00:32:13,056
Nobody outside of this gym
or outside of this locker room
680
00:32:13,139 --> 00:32:14,223
thinks we can win this thing.
681
00:32:14,641 --> 00:32:17,226
Alright? The odds, the payrolls,
whatever--
682
00:32:17,310 --> 00:32:19,103
whatever metric you want to go to,
683
00:32:19,187 --> 00:32:20,313
they're the favorites.
684
00:32:29,197 --> 00:32:33,618
James Gist, um, he's a 6'9" power forward
685
00:32:33,701 --> 00:32:35,995
with a 40-plus vertical, um, leap.
686
00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:40,375
He went to University
of Maryland, um, all ACC there.
687
00:32:40,458 --> 00:32:43,044
Uh, he was drafted in the second round
by the San Antonio Spurs.
688
00:32:43,127 --> 00:32:45,046
And not only is he my best friend,
689
00:32:45,129 --> 00:32:47,548
but he's somebody
that has had a great career,
690
00:32:47,632 --> 00:32:49,801
a legendary career internationally.
691
00:32:49,884 --> 00:32:52,011
Now that cast is off...
692
00:32:52,637 --> 00:32:55,264
Got a lot of respect
for James and everything he's done.
693
00:32:55,348 --> 00:32:57,058
We've been knowing
each other for a long time,
694
00:32:57,141 --> 00:32:58,601
and, um, we actually played
against each other
695
00:32:58,685 --> 00:33:00,436
the first time in high school
696
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,272
when he was the biggest name in the area
697
00:33:03,648 --> 00:33:05,316
and was about to go to Maryland.
698
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,401
He's had a storied career.
699
00:33:06,484 --> 00:33:07,860
He's one of those guys that
700
00:33:08,361 --> 00:33:10,154
understood what he was great at
701
00:33:10,780 --> 00:33:13,116
and stayed in that role
and rode that wave.
702
00:33:13,825 --> 00:33:15,493
Yeah, we stayed on the 35th floor.
703
00:33:15,576 --> 00:33:17,245
So we like... There's 40 floors
in that building.
704
00:33:17,328 --> 00:33:18,538
We five from the top.
705
00:33:19,288 --> 00:33:21,624
It took me a while to kind of get
outside that box
706
00:33:21,708 --> 00:33:23,501
of trying something new.
707
00:33:25,253 --> 00:33:27,964
But now, yeah,
I like to go to the more, like,
708
00:33:28,047 --> 00:33:29,924
the... the hole-in-the-wall spots.
709
00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:32,343
So, you know,
the international food spots,
710
00:33:32,427 --> 00:33:34,595
or you know, whatever this place,
the state I'm in,
711
00:33:34,679 --> 00:33:36,139
the country I'm in right now,
712
00:33:36,222 --> 00:33:37,473
whatever they specialize in.
713
00:33:37,765 --> 00:33:39,600
Like, out here, they got
the kebabs and stuff like that.
714
00:33:39,684 --> 00:33:41,853
I'm smashing them joints. Fire.
715
00:33:41,936 --> 00:33:44,439
Yo, I was standing outside,
I seen them wild dogs.
716
00:33:44,522 --> 00:33:45,773
Oh, yeah.
717
00:33:45,857 --> 00:33:46,941
They out here, bro.
718
00:33:47,025 --> 00:33:50,236
They out here for sure.
They out here for sure.
719
00:33:51,195 --> 00:33:52,697
That's the one thing about Boss, man,
720
00:33:52,780 --> 00:33:55,283
because he's, you know,
I mean he a rottweiler, he,
721
00:33:55,366 --> 00:33:58,786
you know, he commands whatever.
Like, he a alpha and stuff.
722
00:33:58,870 --> 00:34:00,830
At least we got a dog park
in our apartment space,
723
00:34:00,913 --> 00:34:02,290
and I don't have
to walk him on the streets
724
00:34:02,373 --> 00:34:03,541
'cause you walk him on the streets,
725
00:34:03,624 --> 00:34:05,752
you mess around and go across
one of the corners where it's like
726
00:34:05,835 --> 00:34:07,253
- five, six dogs...
- Oh.
727
00:34:07,336 --> 00:34:08,755
...and you gonna have a problem.
728
00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:11,174
They definitely will gang up on you, man.
729
00:34:11,257 --> 00:34:13,301
And these dogs-- these stray dogs
out here ain't small.
730
00:34:13,384 --> 00:34:14,594
You know, they big.
731
00:34:15,511 --> 00:34:17,555
Yeah, they got, you know them Kangals,
732
00:34:17,638 --> 00:34:19,974
they got them Turkish Kangals,
their back is this high.
733
00:34:20,058 --> 00:34:21,809
They be on the street just walking around.
734
00:34:22,810 --> 00:34:24,187
And it be hella cats out here, too.
735
00:34:24,270 --> 00:34:25,313
That's the other crazy part.
736
00:34:25,396 --> 00:34:27,273
Like, I hate that
'cause I'm allergic to cats.
737
00:34:29,776 --> 00:34:32,028
Just think that joint was called
a Dudu restaurant, bro.
738
00:34:34,697 --> 00:34:36,240
Doo doo?
739
00:34:40,578 --> 00:34:42,371
So I'd say we're probably
740
00:34:42,455 --> 00:34:44,040
one of the smaller budget teams
in our league.
741
00:34:44,123 --> 00:34:46,292
Sutherland, very high respected team.
742
00:34:46,375 --> 00:34:50,129
They've won the NBL1 before already.
So they have that championship pedigree.
743
00:34:50,213 --> 00:34:51,714
They have a good coach.
Like, their coach is
744
00:34:51,798 --> 00:34:53,216
the assistant coach of the Sydney Kings,
745
00:34:53,299 --> 00:34:57,553
They have high level
pro-professionals on their team.
746
00:34:57,637 --> 00:35:00,431
Um, in the standings,
they're far above us.
747
00:35:00,515 --> 00:35:03,184
Um, I'm sure every other team is assuming
748
00:35:03,267 --> 00:35:04,977
they kind of just blow us out the water.
749
00:35:05,061 --> 00:35:08,523
So, we know like this-- this would be
a huge win for us.
750
00:35:08,606 --> 00:35:10,191
Beating a team we're supposed to lose to
751
00:35:10,274 --> 00:35:13,528
and-- and it'll push us-- push us up
in the standings pretty well.
752
00:35:13,611 --> 00:35:17,156
If we lose the game, we move
even further from playoffs.
753
00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:19,909
So we'll probably go from ninth
to tenth to, like, eleventh or twelfth
754
00:35:19,992 --> 00:35:22,036
because the-- the standings
are so close right now.
755
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,788
The entire game was a close game.
756
00:35:23,871 --> 00:35:25,832
I'd say it was a battle the whole time.
757
00:35:25,915 --> 00:35:28,918
We knew they were-- they came to play,
we came to play.
758
00:35:29,001 --> 00:35:31,587
Um, it was going back and forth.
759
00:35:31,671 --> 00:35:35,383
A lot of energy,
some trash talk...
760
00:35:35,883 --> 00:35:38,010
...but it's just a very
back-and-forth game.
761
00:35:38,094 --> 00:35:41,097
A very close game. It was for sure
a battle between both teams.
762
00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:43,057
They want to make sure
they stay high in the standings.
763
00:35:43,141 --> 00:35:44,600
We want to make sure
we get in the playoffs,
764
00:35:44,684 --> 00:35:46,269
kind of a do-or-die game for us.
765
00:35:46,686 --> 00:35:49,188
And the final score was 90 to 88.
766
00:35:49,647 --> 00:35:51,983
We won it in the last 0.5 seconds.
767
00:35:52,483 --> 00:35:54,402
So there was-- there was
a real adjustment period
768
00:35:54,485 --> 00:35:56,946
that I had to-- to get
once going overseas.
769
00:35:57,029 --> 00:35:59,740
I mean, it's-- it's less time.
An NBA game is 48 minutes.
770
00:36:00,575 --> 00:36:03,578
International game is 40,
you know, 10 minute quarters.
771
00:36:03,661 --> 00:36:05,830
You got 12 minute quarters in the NBA.
Every possession in Europe,
772
00:36:05,913 --> 00:36:07,290
- you know is valuable.
773
00:36:07,373 --> 00:36:09,959
We were up one, we had the lead,
and it was like last possession.
774
00:36:10,543 --> 00:36:11,544
Other team had it.
775
00:36:11,627 --> 00:36:13,504
Coach called a time out.
He's like, "We're gonna foul."
776
00:36:13,921 --> 00:36:16,924
I'm like "Foul for what?
Why we gonna foul?"
777
00:36:17,008 --> 00:36:20,928
He was like, "We want to foul, you know,
this is a European strategy."
778
00:36:21,429 --> 00:36:24,348
"We gonna foul. They get
two free throws, make or miss.
779
00:36:24,432 --> 00:36:26,809
At least we get the last shot.
We get to hold our own destiny."
780
00:36:26,893 --> 00:36:28,311
They scored two free throws.
781
00:36:28,394 --> 00:36:30,938
We come down, we don't even get a shot.
Lose the game.
782
00:36:31,022 --> 00:36:32,690
I remember calling
my agent after that like,
783
00:36:32,773 --> 00:36:35,193
"Yo, you gotta get me outta here.
This shit is crazy."
784
00:36:35,276 --> 00:36:36,777
I was like, "I can't... nah,
I'm not doing this.
785
00:36:36,861 --> 00:36:38,446
"We're not just about
to be losing games like this
786
00:36:38,529 --> 00:36:39,530
off of some stupid stuff."
787
00:36:40,031 --> 00:36:41,991
He's like, "Man, alright.
You know, I'll figure it out.
788
00:36:42,074 --> 00:36:43,201
You know, give me some time."
789
00:36:43,284 --> 00:36:45,119
Three, four days go by,
agent's like,
790
00:36:45,203 --> 00:36:47,121
"You know, I'm making some calls,
some teams are interested,
791
00:36:47,205 --> 00:36:48,372
I let you know what I come up with."
792
00:36:48,456 --> 00:36:51,459
We got, uh, my-- my first actual
EuroLeague game now.
793
00:36:51,542 --> 00:36:52,877
We play against Maccabi Tel Aviv,
794
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,962
and they come to Belgrade,
they come to our arena.
795
00:36:55,046 --> 00:36:56,380
This is my first home game there.
796
00:36:57,048 --> 00:36:58,633
I go into the arena
two hours before the game,
797
00:36:58,716 --> 00:37:00,885
I got my headphones on, you know,
about to go out and shoot,
798
00:37:00,968 --> 00:37:02,178
get some warm-ups in,
799
00:37:02,261 --> 00:37:06,182
and the stands are full, like full.
800
00:37:06,265 --> 00:37:08,768
It was so loud in there I can't even hear
the music in my headphones.
801
00:37:08,851 --> 00:37:12,605
So, now boom, we start the game,
the crowd's going crazy.
802
00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:16,275
Maccabi beat us by 30. It was bad.
803
00:37:16,359 --> 00:37:18,361
We lost a big game
in front of them by 30 points,
804
00:37:18,444 --> 00:37:19,695
you know, that's crazy.
805
00:37:19,779 --> 00:37:21,948
We go in the locker room,
coach is cussing us out
806
00:37:22,031 --> 00:37:25,451
and he's like, "The fans want you
to come back outside."
807
00:37:25,993 --> 00:37:28,579
I'm like, "For what?" So now everybody's
like, alright, we get our stuff,
808
00:37:28,663 --> 00:37:31,249
you know, put the shoes back on,
we're going back outside on the court.
809
00:37:31,332 --> 00:37:34,001
Nobody's left the gym.
This is like 30 minutes after the game.
810
00:37:34,085 --> 00:37:35,878
I'm talking about,
it's still a full arena.
811
00:37:35,962 --> 00:37:37,630
And the fans are chanting,
they're cheering,
812
00:37:37,713 --> 00:37:39,465
and they just basically--
I'm asking the players, like,
813
00:37:39,548 --> 00:37:42,218
to translate what they're saying,
and they're like, you know, "We love you.
814
00:37:42,301 --> 00:37:44,595
"We understand that you play
with your heart, you play with everything.
815
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:46,264
You know, we still gonna
support you to the end."
816
00:37:46,347 --> 00:37:48,641
All that stuff. That's what they singing
to us and everything like this.
817
00:37:48,724 --> 00:37:49,892
So everybody's clapping, you know.
818
00:37:49,976 --> 00:37:51,435
Mind you, we lost by 30,
819
00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:53,271
and everybody's like, it's like a party.
820
00:37:53,813 --> 00:37:55,648
And I'm like, "Damn, like this is crazy."
821
00:37:55,731 --> 00:37:58,276
And I ended up going out,
went out to a club,
822
00:37:58,359 --> 00:38:01,237
and that was the first time I got
to experience the Belgrade nightlife.
823
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,155
Once I saw the Belgrade nightlife,
824
00:38:03,572 --> 00:38:05,241
and after realizing
the game that we just had
825
00:38:05,324 --> 00:38:06,492
and the fan base we had,
826
00:38:06,575 --> 00:38:08,703
I hit my agent immediately
like, "Yo, I'm good.
827
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,329
I don't gotta leave."
828
00:38:10,413 --> 00:38:11,831
I said, "I'll figure this out.
829
00:38:11,914 --> 00:38:13,958
Nah, I'll figure this out.
This is a cool situation."
830
00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:22,466
One of the best parts
about playing overseas basketball
831
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:24,927
is giving your family
an opportunity to see things
832
00:38:25,011 --> 00:38:26,595
that they probably wouldn't see.
833
00:38:26,679 --> 00:38:29,307
So like my kids, like,
they went to school in Russia.
834
00:38:29,390 --> 00:38:30,641
My kids go to school in Italy.
835
00:38:30,725 --> 00:38:33,227
Like, they have friends
from all different cultures,
836
00:38:33,311 --> 00:38:35,271
all different races,
all different languages.
837
00:38:35,354 --> 00:38:37,940
Like, they've got a chance to, like,
experience so many different things.
838
00:38:38,024 --> 00:38:41,110
Like, you know, I--
Up until I was 21, 22 years old,
839
00:38:41,193 --> 00:38:43,279
I never even rode an airplane,
never even left the East Coast
840
00:38:43,362 --> 00:38:45,323
except if it wasn't for, like,
college basketball.
841
00:38:45,406 --> 00:38:47,116
You know, my daughter is six years old,
842
00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:49,577
and she's been to all over the world.
843
00:38:53,414 --> 00:38:55,875
My son's first language
is Hebrew, you know.
844
00:38:55,958 --> 00:38:59,837
So, just being able to experience
all the different things
845
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,131
that they've been able to experience,
I think is only gonna work
846
00:39:02,214 --> 00:39:04,091
in a positive for them.
847
00:39:06,510 --> 00:39:07,762
So, I got three kids.
848
00:39:07,845 --> 00:39:10,014
...the floor.
Put those-- Put the cars back.
849
00:39:10,723 --> 00:39:11,891
Come on, man.
850
00:39:13,768 --> 00:39:15,728
My oldest is my daughter Maliyah.
851
00:39:17,188 --> 00:39:18,189
Hi.
852
00:39:18,272 --> 00:39:20,066
These boys getting big, man.
853
00:39:20,149 --> 00:39:22,109
She's been traveling with me...
854
00:39:23,652 --> 00:39:26,405
a good portion of my career,
a good portion of my career.
855
00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:28,991
She's been through Greece,
she's traveled through Serbia,
856
00:39:29,075 --> 00:39:31,702
she traveled to France, to Istanbul.
857
00:39:31,786 --> 00:39:34,288
She came out to Germany with me.
She's a-- she's a traveler.
858
00:39:34,372 --> 00:39:36,874
She got more stamps in her passport
than a lot of regular people, you know.
859
00:39:36,957 --> 00:39:38,292
She enjoys traveling
the world, you know.
860
00:39:38,376 --> 00:39:40,044
She gets to see--
She knows that, you know,
861
00:39:40,127 --> 00:39:41,420
the things that she's getting
to experience,
862
00:39:41,504 --> 00:39:43,005
not a lot of people
get to experience that.
863
00:39:43,089 --> 00:39:45,091
Um, so she's enjoying it in that aspect.
864
00:39:56,185 --> 00:39:57,561
Okay, okay. Slow down.
865
00:39:57,645 --> 00:39:59,146
Slow down.
866
00:39:59,230 --> 00:40:01,148
You ready for lunch?
867
00:40:01,232 --> 00:40:03,317
Yeah, we'll sit over here,
we'll sit over here. Um...
868
00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:04,902
Bash, come sit down.
869
00:40:04,985 --> 00:40:07,029
Okay, you go eat
and then you gonna go go play?
870
00:40:08,697 --> 00:40:10,241
I got you.
871
00:40:12,618 --> 00:40:16,622
My first fear I got
is when I played in Iran in 2016,
872
00:40:16,705 --> 00:40:18,749
I went out there, and I was just scared,
873
00:40:18,833 --> 00:40:21,335
like, you know, 'cause you see
all these things in the news.
874
00:40:21,419 --> 00:40:23,879
You see the bombings and all--
and all that stuff.
875
00:40:23,963 --> 00:40:26,257
And when you get there,
you kind of feel like
876
00:40:26,340 --> 00:40:28,467
that's what their everyday life is about.
877
00:40:28,551 --> 00:40:29,844
And it-- and it's really not.
878
00:40:29,927 --> 00:40:31,637
Like, Middle Eastern people for me
879
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:34,849
have been some of the nicest,
most sensitive people
880
00:40:34,932 --> 00:40:37,518
- that I've met, you know, in my life.
881
00:40:40,938 --> 00:40:42,857
You could find yourself
in a really good situation.
882
00:40:42,940 --> 00:40:44,358
You could find yourself
in a great country.
883
00:40:44,442 --> 00:40:45,985
- You could find yourself
884
00:40:46,068 --> 00:40:47,486
being an icon of that country.
885
00:40:47,570 --> 00:40:48,779
They treat you like family.
886
00:40:51,866 --> 00:40:55,077
Oh, no wind. Nothing but net.
887
00:41:00,332 --> 00:41:02,126
We gotta stay safe, man.
888
00:41:02,626 --> 00:41:06,297
Another day y'all hear the sirens.
Here we go.
889
00:41:19,643 --> 00:41:20,686
My name's Jared Armstrong.
890
00:41:20,769 --> 00:41:22,438
I'm a Jewish American
professional basketball player
891
00:41:22,521 --> 00:41:23,689
that plays in Israel.
892
00:41:23,772 --> 00:41:26,358
I got a offer to play for Hapoel Haifa
893
00:41:26,442 --> 00:41:27,943
in the Winners League in Israel.
894
00:41:30,529 --> 00:41:32,823
- I got a call, 6:30 that morning...
895
00:41:32,907 --> 00:41:34,783
...rockets and missiles
with the attack in Israel.
896
00:41:34,867 --> 00:41:37,328
That was from my coach.
And I'm just like, "Come on, Coach.
897
00:41:37,411 --> 00:41:38,913
It's 6:30 in the morning."
So I didn't really,
898
00:41:38,996 --> 00:41:41,248
you know, take the call
as seriously as I should have.
899
00:41:41,332 --> 00:41:44,668
Dozens of Hamas terrorists
infiltrating into Israel this morning
900
00:41:44,752 --> 00:41:46,128
taking citizens hostage,
901
00:41:46,212 --> 00:41:48,088
roaming around the streets
of Israeli towns
902
00:41:48,172 --> 00:41:49,340
shooting all over.
903
00:41:49,423 --> 00:41:51,425
- There are still, as we speak, shootouts
904
00:41:51,509 --> 00:41:54,470
between security forces
and terrorists in Israeli territory.
905
00:41:54,553 --> 00:41:57,264
And around 7:30, I started hearing booms.
906
00:41:58,682 --> 00:41:59,725
So, I'm, like, "Oh, shit."
907
00:42:01,477 --> 00:42:03,312
And then the next boom that I got,
908
00:42:03,395 --> 00:42:05,231
it almost was like
a hundred feet from my apartment.
909
00:42:05,314 --> 00:42:07,149
So I'm like, "Oh, shit,
I gotta get outta here."
910
00:42:07,233 --> 00:42:10,444
So I remember going downstairs
to my teammate's place,
911
00:42:10,528 --> 00:42:13,155
and I knocked on his door
and he was asleep.
912
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,865
I'm like, "Yo, wake up.
What the fuck you doing?
913
00:42:14,949 --> 00:42:16,575
It's bombs and rockets outside."
914
00:42:18,285 --> 00:42:20,454
I had a friend from Chicago
915
00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:22,665
that called me and he like,
"Yo, man, that shit look crazy.
916
00:42:22,748 --> 00:42:24,708
What y'all doing?
Like, come to Michael spot."
917
00:42:24,792 --> 00:42:26,794
So we drive about 45 minutes,
918
00:42:26,877 --> 00:42:28,921
into the city called Ramat HaSharon.
919
00:42:29,004 --> 00:42:30,881
It's about 20 minutes from Tel Aviv.
920
00:42:30,965 --> 00:42:33,509
And we just crashed at his place,
you know, for the time being
921
00:42:33,592 --> 00:42:35,094
until we figured out our next move.
922
00:42:35,177 --> 00:42:36,637
I've had a few moments...
923
00:42:37,805 --> 00:42:39,056
I don't want to say close calls,
924
00:42:39,139 --> 00:42:41,183
but like, you know,
where you kinda gotta understand
925
00:42:41,267 --> 00:42:42,643
that you're not in America.
926
00:42:42,726 --> 00:42:44,311
I remember we had a game
when I played in Greece.
927
00:42:44,395 --> 00:42:47,356
We had a game in Israel,
Tel Aviv, Israel, and during that time,
928
00:42:47,439 --> 00:42:49,567
uh, you know, the Gaza strip is
929
00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:52,987
maybe an hour away from Tel Aviv.
930
00:42:53,571 --> 00:42:56,365
They lighting off missiles over there,
you know, left and right.
931
00:42:56,448 --> 00:42:57,866
You can see 'em in the sky.
932
00:42:57,950 --> 00:43:00,035
You know, we got a game that night.
We got a game that night.
933
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:03,414
And they're saying that,
you know, if-- if the alarm goes off
934
00:43:03,914 --> 00:43:05,708
because there's a missile
coming in, you know,
935
00:43:05,791 --> 00:43:08,377
everybody has to go
underneath the floor, which is...
936
00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:11,672
they have, like, a set bunker
under the floor
937
00:43:11,755 --> 00:43:13,090
of where the arena is.
938
00:43:13,173 --> 00:43:16,176
You know, the referees,
officials, game players,
939
00:43:16,677 --> 00:43:17,803
everybody goes under the floor.
940
00:43:17,886 --> 00:43:19,096
And I'm like, "What about the fans?"
941
00:43:19,179 --> 00:43:20,556
They're like,
"You know, the fans,
942
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:21,724
they'll figure it out."
943
00:43:21,807 --> 00:43:23,559
- "That's their everyday life."
944
00:43:23,642 --> 00:43:25,603
So I'm sitting here like, "Yo,
there's a whole war going on,
945
00:43:25,686 --> 00:43:28,022
"you know, 50 miles away
946
00:43:28,647 --> 00:43:30,691
and we still got
a basketball game to play."
947
00:43:33,402 --> 00:43:35,654
I've never actually been in-- in Iraq.
948
00:43:35,738 --> 00:43:39,366
And when I saw the contract,
I was a bit hesitant.
949
00:43:39,450 --> 00:43:40,784
I didn't know.
950
00:43:40,868 --> 00:43:42,411
Uh, but then I said, you know,
951
00:43:42,494 --> 00:43:44,747
I've been so many
other places in the world,
952
00:43:44,830 --> 00:43:46,123
I know what I'm there to do.
953
00:43:46,206 --> 00:43:50,169
I'm there to-- to do my job
and pretty much stay-- stay out the way.
954
00:43:50,252 --> 00:43:53,881
So I was like, as long as I stick
to just playing basketball
955
00:43:53,964 --> 00:43:57,635
and doing what I do
and in my free time just being,
956
00:43:57,718 --> 00:44:00,596
you know, at home,
then-- then I should be fine.
957
00:44:05,392 --> 00:44:07,061
Oh, I know, look-it.
958
00:44:09,063 --> 00:44:13,067
Personally, I didn't do,
um, a lot of research on Iraq
959
00:44:13,150 --> 00:44:15,527
as a-- as a-- as a country as a whole.
960
00:44:15,611 --> 00:44:18,572
I did more research on the team
I was going to play for
961
00:44:18,656 --> 00:44:20,616
and my teammates and coaches like that.
962
00:44:20,699 --> 00:44:22,076
What's up?
963
00:44:24,787 --> 00:44:26,497
- Hey, you good?
- How are you?
964
00:44:35,464 --> 00:44:37,716
I had this pre-judgment
of what I thought
965
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,844
the people out there were like
or what it was going to be, and then, uh--
966
00:44:40,928 --> 00:44:42,012
What was that?
967
00:44:42,096 --> 00:44:45,265
That was just that, uh,
like, that there's no regard for--
968
00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:46,975
for-- for humans out there.
969
00:44:47,059 --> 00:44:52,231
Like, you know, um, they have
this hatred towards Americans.
970
00:44:52,314 --> 00:44:55,359
And... That's what I thought
before I got there.
971
00:44:55,442 --> 00:44:58,779
And when-- when I-- when I got there,
I noticed that it wasn't like that.
972
00:45:01,740 --> 00:45:03,325
You definitely should do research
973
00:45:03,409 --> 00:45:05,369
on wherever you're gonna play
anywhere in the world
974
00:45:05,452 --> 00:45:07,621
because, you know, you might go somewhere
975
00:45:07,705 --> 00:45:10,749
thinking that what you're doing
is normal or it's okay
976
00:45:10,833 --> 00:45:14,002
and it might not be to the--
to the people of those countries.
977
00:45:15,045 --> 00:45:16,130
Yo.
978
00:45:20,050 --> 00:45:21,885
Personally, my team went kind of AWOL.
979
00:45:21,969 --> 00:45:23,929
Like, other-- outside of my coach,
980
00:45:24,012 --> 00:45:25,889
none of us heard from the general manager.
981
00:45:25,973 --> 00:45:27,599
None of us heard from the president.
982
00:45:27,683 --> 00:45:29,393
Everybody was just kind of on they own.
983
00:45:29,476 --> 00:45:31,103
I mean, I understood the situation,
984
00:45:31,186 --> 00:45:34,481
but it kind of was fucked up
'cause it left us in a tricky situation.
985
00:45:34,565 --> 00:45:37,401
You know, we 5,000 miles away from home,
986
00:45:37,484 --> 00:45:39,862
and you know, we never been
in this situation before.
987
00:45:39,945 --> 00:45:42,740
We ended up finding out our GM,
he had lost family members,
988
00:45:42,823 --> 00:45:43,866
you know, in the war.
989
00:45:43,949 --> 00:45:45,409
And I understood it was a, you know,
990
00:45:45,492 --> 00:45:46,910
un-circumstantial situation.
991
00:45:46,994 --> 00:45:49,079
But for us, it was kind of just fucked up.
992
00:46:09,767 --> 00:46:11,685
When you're overseas,
you have a lot of people
993
00:46:11,769 --> 00:46:13,771
that are just die-hard fans
994
00:46:13,854 --> 00:46:16,356
and will come to every--
every single game.
995
00:46:18,108 --> 00:46:20,194
Be there screaming
at the top of their lungs
996
00:46:20,277 --> 00:46:22,029
and-- and cheering for you.
997
00:46:41,089 --> 00:46:43,091
When I first signed my contract,
998
00:46:43,175 --> 00:46:45,803
and let's say the--
the club would post like,
999
00:46:45,886 --> 00:46:48,055
"Welcome, Lindsey"
or whatever to the team,
1000
00:46:48,138 --> 00:46:50,933
you'll start getting DMs
and things like that on Instagram.
1001
00:46:51,016 --> 00:46:52,935
Like, "Welcome to wherever you're coming.
1002
00:46:53,018 --> 00:46:54,978
We're so excited to have you."
And things like that.
1003
00:46:55,062 --> 00:46:58,273
There's just people that are
really invested in the-- in the teams
1004
00:46:58,357 --> 00:47:00,984
because sometimes if you're
in a small city, that's all they have.
1005
00:47:01,068 --> 00:47:03,320
You know, that's--
that's what really is
1006
00:47:03,403 --> 00:47:05,280
at the center of the-- of the city.
1007
00:47:05,364 --> 00:47:06,949
And people are invested in that.
1008
00:47:07,032 --> 00:47:09,409
And that's something that
they look forward to every week
1009
00:47:09,493 --> 00:47:10,577
to go to a game.
1010
00:47:15,707 --> 00:47:18,752
The intimacy between you
and the fans becomes more
1011
00:47:18,836 --> 00:47:20,921
because they build
a relationship with you.
1012
00:47:21,004 --> 00:47:24,383
So they go crazy, they passionate,
they jumping up and down.
1013
00:47:24,466 --> 00:47:26,844
Their families have the same history
1014
00:47:26,927 --> 00:47:29,054
in terms of the teams
that they're rooting on.
1015
00:47:29,137 --> 00:47:30,889
So, you get a different kind
of appreciation.
1016
00:47:30,973 --> 00:47:33,517
The NBA is entertainment, man,
it's a family environment.
1017
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,435
You just going to have a good time.
1018
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:36,728
You know, it's like a party.
1019
00:47:40,607 --> 00:47:42,568
That shit is like a lifestyle.
1020
00:47:55,581 --> 00:47:58,166
I got stories for days
when it comes to how rowdy
1021
00:47:58,250 --> 00:48:00,294
and hostile fans can get
when you're on the road.
1022
00:48:03,547 --> 00:48:05,465
They love basketball more than we do.
1023
00:48:06,383 --> 00:48:09,428
They just can't play it. You know?
So they want you to play it for 'em.
1024
00:48:09,511 --> 00:48:11,138
They want you to play it
with the same emotion,
1025
00:48:11,221 --> 00:48:13,140
the same passion, the same everything
that they feel for it.
1026
00:48:13,223 --> 00:48:14,474
They want that.
1027
00:48:17,269 --> 00:48:19,605
It's a game to us.
To them, it's life.
1028
00:48:20,147 --> 00:48:22,941
To them, it's life. And in some instances,
I've been in the arenas that, yeah,
1029
00:48:23,025 --> 00:48:24,568
you really had to worry
about your well-being.
1030
00:48:24,651 --> 00:48:26,528
You had-- had to run off the floor
1031
00:48:26,945 --> 00:48:28,822
to get to the locker room
before the fans got to us.
1032
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:31,909
I had to wait in the locker room
for two, three hours
1033
00:48:31,992 --> 00:48:35,746
so that they can evacuate the gym
and the parking lot so we can leave.
1034
00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:37,289
I've been on buses where we got...
1035
00:48:38,540 --> 00:48:41,168
police escorts on both sides,
you know, this high,
1036
00:48:41,251 --> 00:48:43,086
so that nobody can throw
anything in the bus
1037
00:48:43,170 --> 00:48:44,254
or anything like that, you know?
1038
00:48:44,338 --> 00:48:45,589
And it's a sport to us,
to them...
1039
00:48:45,672 --> 00:48:47,424
they--
it's more than just a sport.
1040
00:48:54,806 --> 00:48:56,934
Go to one of them Greek games,
you know what I'm saying?
1041
00:48:57,017 --> 00:48:58,810
Go to the Panathinaikos
and Olympiacos game.
1042
00:48:58,894 --> 00:49:01,313
That's like a real, true experience.
1043
00:49:01,396 --> 00:49:04,066
Like, you know.
Here, it's more of an entertainment,
1044
00:49:04,149 --> 00:49:05,609
which is cool, both sides are cool,
1045
00:49:05,692 --> 00:49:08,320
but it's more of an entertainment,
it's more of a party.
1046
00:49:08,403 --> 00:49:10,906
You got the kiss cam, you got this,
you got this going on, you got--
1047
00:49:10,989 --> 00:49:13,617
They shooting things in the air.
They got all type of stuff.
1048
00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:16,620
Overseas, it's just straight up chants.
1049
00:49:18,622 --> 00:49:20,457
You got the fire going,
they got all types.
1050
00:49:20,540 --> 00:49:21,959
They booing every team, you know.
1051
00:49:22,042 --> 00:49:24,378
So it's a whole different...
it's two totally different vibes,
1052
00:49:24,461 --> 00:49:26,254
two totally different energies.
1053
00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:32,844
Its Olympiacos versus Panathinaikos,
they're playing in the Greek Cup.
1054
00:49:32,928 --> 00:49:36,139
So, you have on one end zone
is the Olympiacos fans.
1055
00:49:37,766 --> 00:49:39,893
The other side of the basket
is Panathinaikos fans.
1056
00:49:41,478 --> 00:49:43,480
And in between are police officers.
1057
00:49:43,563 --> 00:49:46,316
Like not just, like, one or two.
I'm talking about the whole police force.
1058
00:49:47,567 --> 00:49:49,569
So I'm just out there
casually not paying attention,
1059
00:49:49,653 --> 00:49:52,781
trying to like-- you know, trying to like,
you know, be in the game and be focused.
1060
00:49:52,864 --> 00:49:54,241
So all my teammates leave.
1061
00:49:54,449 --> 00:49:55,909
I don't notice they leave, you know,
1062
00:49:55,993 --> 00:49:58,412
I'm just out there shooting
and doing my normal routine.
1063
00:49:58,495 --> 00:50:00,539
So, I'm on the free throw line, shooting,
1064
00:50:00,622 --> 00:50:02,499
all of sudden something goes,
"pew, boom!"
1065
00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:06,586
A flare knocks me in the head,
knocks me down.
1066
00:50:06,670 --> 00:50:08,380
My pants is on fire.
1067
00:50:08,463 --> 00:50:10,132
So I'm over here brushing my pants up.
1068
00:50:10,215 --> 00:50:12,175
Two security guards come take me in.
1069
00:50:12,259 --> 00:50:14,261
I'm, you know, looked like
I just got knocked in the head,
1070
00:50:14,344 --> 00:50:16,054
I'm half conscious or whatever.
1071
00:50:16,138 --> 00:50:18,849
My teammates, they just knock it off
like nothing happened.
1072
00:50:18,932 --> 00:50:20,726
They're like, "Ah, Malaka,
that's-- that's nothing.
1073
00:50:20,809 --> 00:50:22,436
That just--
that's just normal basketball."
1074
00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:24,855
The coach looks at me,
keeps drawing on the board.
1075
00:50:24,938 --> 00:50:27,274
I'm thinking in my head, I was like,
"Yo, I just almost lost my life,
1076
00:50:27,357 --> 00:50:28,984
"and we just gonna continue
to play the basketball game
1077
00:50:29,067 --> 00:50:31,028
like...like nothing is happening."
1078
00:50:36,992 --> 00:50:38,952
When somebody thinks about Kyle Hines,
1079
00:50:39,036 --> 00:50:42,706
they need to think about somebody
that has persevered,
1080
00:50:42,789 --> 00:50:46,209
that has known how to be
a consummate professional, right?
1081
00:50:46,293 --> 00:50:48,545
He knows how to play
the game inside the game,
1082
00:50:48,628 --> 00:50:49,921
being a good teammate,
1083
00:50:50,005 --> 00:50:53,133
sacrificing individual statistics
for team goals.
1084
00:50:53,216 --> 00:50:55,552
And he's been rewarded handsomely,
you know,
1085
00:50:55,635 --> 00:50:58,180
through opportunities and intangibly
1086
00:50:58,263 --> 00:51:02,142
through-- through achievements
and awards for that sacrifice.
1087
00:51:02,225 --> 00:51:04,436
And he's somebody that every young player
1088
00:51:04,519 --> 00:51:07,939
that's considering playing basketball
overseas should study.
1089
00:51:08,023 --> 00:51:10,108
This, this right here carries
a lot of weight.
1090
00:51:10,192 --> 00:51:11,777
It carries a lot of pressure
when you wear it,
1091
00:51:11,860 --> 00:51:13,278
but it's something that you want,
1092
00:51:13,361 --> 00:51:14,613
um, you know, all players want it.
1093
00:51:15,614 --> 00:51:18,366
The first American
to win four EuroLeague titles,
1094
00:51:18,450 --> 00:51:20,744
Hines' place in history is already secure.
1095
00:51:25,415 --> 00:51:26,666
What's a misconception
1096
00:51:26,750 --> 00:51:28,835
that people have
about overseas basketball?
1097
00:51:29,419 --> 00:51:31,797
A misconception that they have is that,
1098
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,591
that there's bad players
and there's bad basketball.
1099
00:51:34,674 --> 00:51:36,426
That's just on the basketball standpoint.
1100
00:51:36,510 --> 00:51:38,804
I feel like people who don't follow it,
1101
00:51:38,887 --> 00:51:41,264
don't know the talent that's out there.
1102
00:51:41,348 --> 00:51:43,558
And I would say another misconception
1103
00:51:43,642 --> 00:51:45,644
is outside of basketball, you know,
1104
00:51:45,727 --> 00:51:47,395
because maybe people think
1105
00:51:47,479 --> 00:51:49,022
just because you're
a basketball player,
1106
00:51:49,106 --> 00:51:51,775
you're getting it easy
or you don't have it as hard
1107
00:51:51,858 --> 00:51:53,693
as-- as someone who works nine to five.
1108
00:51:53,777 --> 00:51:55,654
And that's totally false
because, you know,
1109
00:51:55,737 --> 00:51:58,406
for a lot of us, we have
to move to-- to countries
1110
00:51:58,490 --> 00:51:59,491
we've never been to,
1111
00:51:59,574 --> 00:52:02,410
adapt to cultures
that we've never been a part of.
1112
00:52:02,494 --> 00:52:05,622
Maybe something that's done
in our country as a norm
1113
00:52:05,705 --> 00:52:07,207
is not a norm in another country.
1114
00:52:07,290 --> 00:52:09,709
So, that's stuff that you
definitely have to adjust to.
1115
00:52:10,210 --> 00:52:12,337
I don't know if many people
seen The Godfather,
1116
00:52:12,420 --> 00:52:13,797
but the town where, you know, Michael,
1117
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,299
when he's-- when he's leaving
and he's kind of on exile,
1118
00:52:16,383 --> 00:52:18,385
- that's what Veroli looked like.
1119
00:52:18,468 --> 00:52:19,845
Literally, people were walking goats
1120
00:52:19,928 --> 00:52:22,597
- and chickens and horses and--
1121
00:52:22,681 --> 00:52:24,808
And people were-- you know,
when they wanted to do laundry,
1122
00:52:24,891 --> 00:52:27,561
they would all go down
to, like, the big watering hole,
1123
00:52:27,644 --> 00:52:29,855
and they're filling up their water
to take it back to their house.
1124
00:52:29,938 --> 00:52:31,398
Like, that's literally what it was.
1125
00:52:31,481 --> 00:52:34,067
It was like, you know, coming
from South Jersey, Philadelphia,
1126
00:52:34,151 --> 00:52:35,652
to kind of going back into time.
1127
00:52:35,735 --> 00:52:38,905
So, for that first, like, month,
I was homesick.
1128
00:52:38,989 --> 00:52:41,658
And then I go to, you know, Russia,
Moscow, where it's like,
1129
00:52:41,741 --> 00:52:43,702
you don't see the sun for 10 months.
1130
00:52:43,785 --> 00:52:45,370
Like, you get there,
nobody's talking to you
1131
00:52:45,453 --> 00:52:47,038
'cause, you know,
everybody's very, you know,
1132
00:52:47,122 --> 00:52:48,498
in Russia, everybody's very stoic.
1133
00:52:48,582 --> 00:52:49,875
I was like, "Man, what...
1134
00:52:49,958 --> 00:52:51,710
What decisions did I make?
Why did I come here?"
1135
00:52:51,793 --> 00:52:53,962
But then, I kind of flipped my mentality,
1136
00:52:54,045 --> 00:52:55,422
and I started realizing, I was like,
1137
00:52:55,505 --> 00:52:57,007
"Man, this city is beautiful."
1138
00:52:57,090 --> 00:52:59,426
Like, the Red Square is one
of the most, you know,
1139
00:53:00,468 --> 00:53:02,804
beautiful things that
you can ever see in life.
1140
00:53:02,888 --> 00:53:04,639
Like, you know, the way
that the architecture,
1141
00:53:04,723 --> 00:53:06,474
the different things
that they have there in Russia.
1142
00:53:06,558 --> 00:53:09,311
Like, the-- the culture, the history,
1143
00:53:09,394 --> 00:53:10,395
the subway.
1144
00:53:10,478 --> 00:53:13,064
Every subway station is a--
is a museum.
1145
00:53:13,732 --> 00:53:15,984
You go there, and they have
these beautiful tapestries,
1146
00:53:16,067 --> 00:53:17,611
this beautiful artwork.
1147
00:53:19,863 --> 00:53:22,574
The players who have had
the most success overseas
1148
00:53:22,657 --> 00:53:24,826
are the players that
really embrace the culture
1149
00:53:24,910 --> 00:53:27,287
and really embrace the lifestyle
and really embrace what it is.
1150
00:53:29,789 --> 00:53:32,626
I'm on a team, I think--
They quit. No...
1151
00:53:32,709 --> 00:53:34,628
These are my brothers, right?
1152
00:53:34,711 --> 00:53:38,423
This is my younger brother, Abbas.
We call him Kobe.
1153
00:53:38,506 --> 00:53:39,633
That's Kobe.
1154
00:53:39,841 --> 00:53:41,259
Jassim, say hello to the camera.
1155
00:53:41,343 --> 00:53:44,179
- Yes! My brother.
- This is Nico, the captain.
1156
00:53:44,262 --> 00:53:45,722
- Hold on, don't go nowhere.
- Okay.
1157
00:53:46,056 --> 00:53:47,557
This is Latif. Young Latif.
1158
00:53:48,767 --> 00:53:50,477
Don't be a killer...
1159
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,354
This is Young Turkey right here,
this is the family.
1160
00:53:54,898 --> 00:53:56,566
This is the masked man right there.
1161
00:53:59,653 --> 00:54:01,154
- What's up?
- Hey!
1162
00:54:03,281 --> 00:54:05,742
- This is Khalid, my brother.
- What's up, fam?
1163
00:54:06,451 --> 00:54:08,787
And this is Wes.
My boy and my brother.
1164
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:10,997
This is the best trainer
in the Middle East.
1165
00:54:12,666 --> 00:54:14,167
These are my brothers.
That's my family, man.
1166
00:54:14,251 --> 00:54:17,462
These are my family...
1167
00:54:21,091 --> 00:54:23,718
As Americans,
when we go over to these places
1168
00:54:23,802 --> 00:54:25,345
and go over to these countries
1169
00:54:25,428 --> 00:54:27,681
and start learning these people's
customs and cultures,
1170
00:54:27,764 --> 00:54:31,559
you have to be aware of what's offensive
and what's not offensive,
1171
00:54:32,018 --> 00:54:35,480
and what can force someone
to dislike you or try to harm you
1172
00:54:35,563 --> 00:54:37,732
or try to push you
and jam you up, you know?
1173
00:54:37,816 --> 00:54:39,776
'Cause sometimes,
we can dap each other up.
1174
00:54:39,859 --> 00:54:41,778
If I dap you up, it's a cultural thing
1175
00:54:41,861 --> 00:54:43,321
on how we shake hands.
1176
00:54:43,405 --> 00:54:45,740
It's a cultural thing on how people shake
1177
00:54:45,824 --> 00:54:47,784
or-- or greet each other in Italy,
1178
00:54:47,867 --> 00:54:49,327
they kiss on both sides of the cheek.
1179
00:54:49,411 --> 00:54:50,996
Now, if you're not familiar with that,
1180
00:54:51,329 --> 00:54:52,497
that shit can throw you off.
1181
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,210
It's a cultural thing, you go to Turkey,
1182
00:54:57,294 --> 00:54:59,629
that if you with your son
and you with your child,
1183
00:54:59,713 --> 00:55:02,007
someone will walk past,
say "inshallah," and take your baby
1184
00:55:02,090 --> 00:55:04,801
and just walk off and just be--
and hold them,
1185
00:55:04,884 --> 00:55:06,886
and-and-and just walk around
like it's nothing.
1186
00:55:06,970 --> 00:55:08,847
They'll take him to sit with--
at their table with them
1187
00:55:08,930 --> 00:55:10,473
and-- and feed them food.
1188
00:55:10,557 --> 00:55:12,350
Now, for us, that shit is wild.
1189
00:55:12,434 --> 00:55:13,852
But for them, that's a normal
1190
00:55:13,935 --> 00:55:15,937
because of their appreciation
for children.
1191
00:55:16,021 --> 00:55:19,065
So with-- with--
The same thing goes with basketball.
1192
00:55:19,149 --> 00:55:21,651
You have to understand the natural customs
1193
00:55:21,735 --> 00:55:24,946
and the cultures of whatever country
1194
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:26,698
or whatever gym you going into.
1195
00:55:26,781 --> 00:55:28,658
You know, you can't--
even if you here on the street,
1196
00:55:28,742 --> 00:55:30,201
you can't just walk up in somebody's house
1197
00:55:30,285 --> 00:55:33,496
and go in they refrigerator
and just act like it's yours.
1198
00:55:33,580 --> 00:55:36,499
Nah, you gotta ask, "Can... May I do...
What can I do? Da, da, da."
1199
00:55:36,583 --> 00:55:39,044
It's a certain type of courtesy and, um...
1200
00:55:39,461 --> 00:55:40,628
and rules that go along with it.
1201
00:55:40,712 --> 00:55:43,214
So, my first year,
we was playing in Varese,
1202
00:55:43,298 --> 00:55:47,052
a team, uh, out in Italy,
and I hit a game winner.
1203
00:55:47,135 --> 00:55:48,303
We beating them all-- all game.
1204
00:55:48,386 --> 00:55:51,723
They make a run, they, uh,
make a shot, I get the ball,
1205
00:55:51,806 --> 00:55:54,059
eight seconds left,
I go down, I hit a pull up
1206
00:55:54,142 --> 00:55:55,769
and I take my jersey off.
1207
00:55:55,852 --> 00:55:57,437
You know, in college,
you know the thing you do,
1208
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,857
you pop your jersey,
you show yourself to the-- to the stands.
1209
00:56:00,940 --> 00:56:04,569
So, I took my jersey off
and I pointed my jersey at the opposing--
1210
00:56:04,652 --> 00:56:06,529
the home team's fans,
we was on the road.
1211
00:56:07,530 --> 00:56:08,948
And I just see a mob
1212
00:56:09,032 --> 00:56:11,659
of people coming towards me
like they wanted to kill me.
1213
00:56:11,743 --> 00:56:14,120
Like, I had to be escorted out
by police that day.
1214
00:56:14,204 --> 00:56:15,997
Like, I had to be brought out
1215
00:56:16,081 --> 00:56:18,291
and put onto the bus just myself.
1216
00:56:18,375 --> 00:56:20,710
And the whole time, I'm like,
"Man, what did I do that's so bad?"
1217
00:56:20,794 --> 00:56:23,046
But it's just like,
that's something you don't do over there.
1218
00:56:23,129 --> 00:56:25,507
There've been a lot of times
where I've gone to different countries,
1219
00:56:25,590 --> 00:56:28,593
whether it's travel
for vacation or for playing,
1220
00:56:28,676 --> 00:56:30,762
where I'm asking, "Do you speak English?"
1221
00:56:30,845 --> 00:56:32,263
And then I had to catch myself.
1222
00:56:32,347 --> 00:56:35,475
I'm like, "I'm asking them
if they speak English in France
1223
00:56:35,558 --> 00:56:36,893
"or in Greece, you know,
1224
00:56:36,976 --> 00:56:38,728
"I should be making the effort
to speak their language.
1225
00:56:38,812 --> 00:56:41,564
And if I see that
they speak English, then I adjust."
1226
00:56:41,648 --> 00:56:43,108
But, uh, you know,
that's not how we think.
1227
00:56:43,191 --> 00:56:45,443
We think because we're
the greatest country in the world
1228
00:56:45,527 --> 00:56:47,987
that everybody just abides by how we think
1229
00:56:48,071 --> 00:56:49,197
and how we operate.
1230
00:56:49,823 --> 00:56:51,616
Obviously, you guys
have been in Europe before,
1231
00:56:51,950 --> 00:56:55,328
but in a smaller town like this
where there's not a lot of diversity...
1232
00:56:55,412 --> 00:56:57,539
- Yeah.
- ...like, do you guys feel that like as...
1233
00:56:57,622 --> 00:56:59,249
- You know, the stares?
- The stares?
1234
00:56:59,332 --> 00:57:01,459
- The stares is crazy. Like, and--
- Uh-huh.
1235
00:57:01,543 --> 00:57:04,170
And-- and people will stare
and not say anything,
1236
00:57:04,254 --> 00:57:06,798
and it will just be like 100%...
1237
00:57:06,881 --> 00:57:08,383
We can go over to-- Uh...
1238
00:57:09,050 --> 00:57:11,094
will just continue to stare
and not look away.
1239
00:57:11,177 --> 00:57:13,972
I'm like, "Wow, this is like--
this is bold."
1240
00:57:14,431 --> 00:57:16,057
- But...
- So do you feel like it's--
1241
00:57:16,141 --> 00:57:18,560
Is it, like, malicious
or are they just curious?
1242
00:57:18,643 --> 00:57:21,479
No, I think it's like,
it's like curiosity
1243
00:57:21,563 --> 00:57:22,564
and it's kind of just like,
1244
00:57:22,647 --> 00:57:24,524
"Wh-- Like, what are
you guys doing here?"
1245
00:57:25,191 --> 00:57:27,235
Because it's such
a, like, a random city.
1246
00:57:27,318 --> 00:57:28,695
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
1247
00:57:28,778 --> 00:57:30,488
- Yeah.
- But now we're getting
1248
00:57:30,572 --> 00:57:31,906
the stares of people recognizing...
1249
00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:33,741
- Right. True.
- ...because we're in the finals.
1250
00:57:33,825 --> 00:57:35,452
- Yeah.
- So now it's kind of different.
1251
00:57:35,535 --> 00:57:38,329
It's-- They're kind of afraid
to approach us.
1252
00:57:38,413 --> 00:57:40,999
- Yeah, yeah.
- Like, "Oh, you play basketball?"
1253
00:57:41,082 --> 00:57:42,500
- Yeah.
- And-- 'Cause, like,
1254
00:57:42,584 --> 00:57:44,836
after you guys left, uh,
in the restaurant,
1255
00:57:44,919 --> 00:57:46,546
- someone noticed us like, hey...
- Mm-hmm.
1256
00:57:46,629 --> 00:57:49,174
He's like, "Finals tomorrow."
I said, "Yeah, are you coming?"
1257
00:57:49,257 --> 00:57:50,884
He's like, "Yeah, yeah, I'm coming."
1258
00:57:51,426 --> 00:57:53,470
You go to places and you gotta--
1259
00:57:53,553 --> 00:57:57,015
you can't walk around with certain--
certain body parts showing
1260
00:57:57,098 --> 00:57:58,391
and you know, things of that nature.
1261
00:57:58,475 --> 00:58:00,101
So, you don't want to go there
and get caught up
1262
00:58:00,185 --> 00:58:02,520
'cause rules are different over there
than they are over here.
1263
00:58:02,604 --> 00:58:06,316
We might say, "Hey, this is
more lenient so you'll be okay,
1264
00:58:06,399 --> 00:58:08,401
or it's just a slap on the wrist,"
but you go over there?
1265
00:58:08,485 --> 00:58:11,237
You're American, you not-- you don't have
anybody fighting for you like that.
1266
00:58:11,321 --> 00:58:14,574
So you gotta make sure, like,
you know what each country
1267
00:58:14,657 --> 00:58:16,701
kinda wants and expects from you.
1268
00:58:16,784 --> 00:58:18,203
And then you gotta--
you gotta carry it out.
1269
00:58:18,286 --> 00:58:20,580
When I'm having discussions with my agent
1270
00:58:20,663 --> 00:58:22,916
about where I'm going
and I'm talking with my parents,
1271
00:58:22,999 --> 00:58:26,127
it's like, "Okay, what's the situation
in the country?
1272
00:58:26,211 --> 00:58:28,796
Like, what's going on? Is it a safe area?"
1273
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,048
Things like that.
1274
00:58:30,131 --> 00:58:32,425
My parents, they will always have
those questions,
1275
00:58:32,509 --> 00:58:35,762
and I think they'll always be concerned
and worried about me
1276
00:58:35,845 --> 00:58:36,971
no matter where I go.
1277
00:58:37,055 --> 00:58:39,432
One of the things we--
I said to Lindsey, you know,
1278
00:58:39,516 --> 00:58:42,310
my pet peeve, don't get involved
in politics over there.
1279
00:58:42,393 --> 00:58:45,063
You're there to focus
on basketball, enjoy,
1280
00:58:45,146 --> 00:58:46,481
learn about the culture,
1281
00:58:46,981 --> 00:58:49,734
but don't-- don't get into protests
or whatever it is.
1282
00:58:49,817 --> 00:58:53,196
Because the political environment
is very sensitive right now.
1283
00:58:53,279 --> 00:58:56,241
And seeing what happened
to Brittney Griner
1284
00:58:56,324 --> 00:58:57,867
was a huge concern.
1285
00:58:57,951 --> 00:58:59,577
Two-time Olympic gold medalist
1286
00:58:59,661 --> 00:59:03,665
and WNBA star Brittney Griner
has been detained in Russia.
1287
00:59:04,249 --> 00:59:08,336
Under Russian law,
Griner could face 10 years in jail.
1288
00:59:08,419 --> 00:59:10,547
People were wondering
why Brittney Griner is going to Russia
1289
00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:12,549
being the star that she is
here in the states.
1290
00:59:12,632 --> 00:59:14,092
It's because she's getting paid millions.
1291
00:59:14,175 --> 00:59:17,220
Now some people might think
$100,000, $200,000
1292
00:59:17,303 --> 00:59:19,973
is good money, um, for--
for a normal citizen
1293
00:59:20,056 --> 00:59:21,432
working a conventional job.
1294
00:59:21,933 --> 00:59:25,895
But, if you put it in the context
of professional sports,
1295
00:59:25,979 --> 00:59:28,855
it's well below what most people
are getting paid
1296
00:59:28,897 --> 00:59:29,918
for being a high level talent.
1297
00:59:31,150 --> 00:59:33,403
You know,
people always think, "Okay,
1298
00:59:33,486 --> 00:59:35,405
"when Americans come overseas
1299
00:59:35,488 --> 00:59:38,741
"that they're automatically
going to dominate
1300
00:59:38,825 --> 00:59:40,451
and carry the team."
1301
00:59:40,535 --> 00:59:42,161
But that's not always the case.
1302
00:59:42,245 --> 00:59:45,498
So that definitely could be
a-- a misconception.
1303
00:59:59,637 --> 01:00:01,806
If they sit on the, uh, side...
1304
01:00:01,889 --> 01:00:03,558
She really brings a lot of energy.
1305
01:00:03,641 --> 01:00:05,643
She's able to score in all position
1306
01:00:05,727 --> 01:00:09,939
and, uh, you know, I like her game
and I like her personality.
1307
01:00:10,023 --> 01:00:13,443
Uh, you-- She can, uh, she can make
a lot of joke with me.
1308
01:00:13,526 --> 01:00:15,737
So-- so I'm really good with her.
1309
01:00:15,820 --> 01:00:18,906
Now she's able to score, uh,
uh, 20, 25 points.
1310
01:00:18,990 --> 01:00:22,201
So, she needs just to continue
in these, uh, in these things.
1311
01:00:22,285 --> 01:00:25,622
Uh, what she is doing now
and we can be successful.
1312
01:00:31,127 --> 01:00:33,171
You think by myself?
1313
01:00:33,921 --> 01:00:35,256
You said you had it at home.
1314
01:00:36,299 --> 01:00:38,134
I'm gonna get annoyed with you.
What is that?
1315
01:00:38,217 --> 01:00:39,594
What happened?
1316
01:00:39,677 --> 01:00:42,096
'Cause she said she still didn't eat hers.
She got it at home. She said--
1317
01:00:42,180 --> 01:00:43,556
Oh, so you were gonna get another piece?
1318
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,725
- Yeah.
- So you're gonna eat two tonight?
1319
01:00:45,808 --> 01:00:47,727
- Worth it though.
- No, I'm just going to have one tonight.
1320
01:00:47,810 --> 01:00:50,521
- You're just gonna save them, like...
- I respect it.
1321
01:00:50,980 --> 01:00:53,650
I rather, you know...
I keep that thang on me.
1322
01:00:53,733 --> 01:00:55,151
Little bit of cheesecake.
1323
01:00:56,194 --> 01:00:57,362
So you're going to put it--
1324
01:00:57,445 --> 01:00:58,905
- It's the princess.
- Right?
1325
01:00:58,988 --> 01:01:01,616
Okay, but if I'm walking first...
1326
01:01:01,699 --> 01:01:03,868
But you gotta walk
through, like, the narrowest...
1327
01:01:04,869 --> 01:01:08,247
I mean, honestly, like,
for me, I-- when I first get there,
1328
01:01:08,331 --> 01:01:12,377
I'm thinking, like, about my first break
where I can go home like in November.
1329
01:01:12,460 --> 01:01:14,921
No, like, real talk,
I'm thinking about that like, "Okay,
1330
01:01:15,004 --> 01:01:16,339
I just gotta make it to then."
1331
01:01:16,422 --> 01:01:18,758
Then, by then, I kind of just,
like, try and break it up
1332
01:01:18,841 --> 01:01:21,511
like, "Okay, we're in
the middle of the season."
1333
01:01:21,594 --> 01:01:23,888
Like, okay, just trying to break up like
1334
01:01:23,971 --> 01:01:25,848
how many games we got or things like that.
1335
01:01:25,932 --> 01:01:27,892
Using basketball instead
of letting basketball
1336
01:01:27,975 --> 01:01:31,020
just use you or use your body,
like it's better.
1337
01:01:31,479 --> 01:01:33,731
I think-- I'ma say it.
I think it's different in Canada
1338
01:01:33,815 --> 01:01:35,191
compared to the States.
1339
01:01:35,274 --> 01:01:38,903
One, just because there's
so many schools out there.
1340
01:01:38,986 --> 01:01:41,406
- Yeah.
- There are so many athletes graduating,
1341
01:01:41,489 --> 01:01:43,574
- trying to get to WNBA obviously.
- Yeah.
1342
01:01:43,658 --> 01:01:45,451
But, like, in Canada, like,
1343
01:01:45,535 --> 01:01:47,245
- we don't have that same opportunity.
- Mm.
1344
01:01:47,328 --> 01:01:49,038
Like, if you're good enough
in Canada,
1345
01:01:49,122 --> 01:01:51,666
- yeah, you'll go D1 in the States, fine.
- Yeah.
1346
01:01:51,749 --> 01:01:53,751
But other than that, like,
the goal is overseas.
1347
01:01:53,835 --> 01:01:55,420
- Okay. Mm-hmm.
- Like, that is the goal.
1348
01:01:55,503 --> 01:01:57,004
Like, I want to play
professional basketball.
1349
01:01:57,088 --> 01:01:59,340
There's no professional league in Canada.
1350
01:01:59,424 --> 01:02:00,675
- Or women's at least.
- Okay.
1351
01:02:00,758 --> 01:02:02,885
And then, men's,
it's only in the summertime.
1352
01:02:02,969 --> 01:02:03,970
Mm.
1353
01:02:04,053 --> 01:02:06,013
Um, and that's only
for like a couple months.
1354
01:02:06,097 --> 01:02:08,433
And then, yeah,
other than that, like, it's like,
1355
01:02:08,516 --> 01:02:09,976
"Okay, let me just try to get something."
1356
01:02:10,059 --> 01:02:11,060
- Yeah, where--
- People--
1357
01:02:11,144 --> 01:02:12,520
Like, I know a couple people
1358
01:02:12,603 --> 01:02:15,314
that were pretty good in college
1359
01:02:15,398 --> 01:02:17,859
that are making like less than $1,000.
1360
01:02:17,942 --> 01:02:18,985
- I believe it.
- Mm-hmm.
1361
01:02:19,068 --> 01:02:20,528
And I'm like, uh...
1362
01:02:20,611 --> 01:02:22,655
- You-- What can you do with that?
- Yeah.
1363
01:02:22,739 --> 01:02:24,073
Like, you really have to, like, love--
1364
01:02:24,157 --> 01:02:25,616
- Less than $1,000?
- Love the game.
1365
01:02:25,700 --> 01:02:27,493
- You have to love it.
- You have to love the game.
1366
01:02:27,577 --> 01:02:29,704
And that's-- that's
so many factors. That's your agent.
1367
01:02:29,787 --> 01:02:31,247
That's who your agent knows.
That's the team.
1368
01:02:31,330 --> 01:02:33,040
Like, a team is gonna
low-ball you for real, like...
1369
01:02:33,124 --> 01:02:34,667
- For sure.
- If you worth a certain amount of money,
1370
01:02:34,751 --> 01:02:35,960
they're not gonna give it
to you from jump.
1371
01:02:36,043 --> 01:02:37,879
Your agent has to work for that. Yeah.
1372
01:02:37,962 --> 01:02:40,173
- Exactly.
- But people are taking it so it's like...
1373
01:02:40,256 --> 01:02:42,008
Because they don't know though, like...
1374
01:02:43,384 --> 01:02:46,179
Diana Taurasi,
she played in Russia to the point
1375
01:02:46,262 --> 01:02:48,556
where her team one season in Russia,
1376
01:02:48,639 --> 01:02:50,850
paid her not to play in the WNBA.
1377
01:02:50,933 --> 01:02:53,519
Like, that's how important they are
to these teams in Europe.
1378
01:02:53,603 --> 01:02:56,814
They have to go play overseas
to give themselves the lifestyle afforded
1379
01:02:56,898 --> 01:02:58,524
to a professional basketball player
1380
01:02:58,608 --> 01:03:00,777
simply because the WNBA
doesn't pay them
1381
01:03:00,860 --> 01:03:02,403
the amount of money that Europe does.
1382
01:03:10,369 --> 01:03:14,165
I was getting major attention
from a lot of high level teams in Europe,
1383
01:03:14,248 --> 01:03:16,459
and I was getting a lot
of attention from NBA clubs,
1384
01:03:17,084 --> 01:03:19,378
then I got diagnosed
with multiple sclerosis.
1385
01:03:19,462 --> 01:03:21,964
Now, to a story
of commitment and persistence.
1386
01:03:22,048 --> 01:03:24,133
Chris Wright was playing
professional basketball overseas
1387
01:03:24,217 --> 01:03:26,928
when he noticed an unusual tingling
in his right foot.
1388
01:03:27,011 --> 01:03:29,847
After the sensation started to spread,
Chris went to the doctor
1389
01:03:29,931 --> 01:03:32,767
where he was diagnosed
with multiple sclerosis.
1390
01:03:32,850 --> 01:03:34,727
But rather than marking
the end of his playing career,
1391
01:03:34,811 --> 01:03:37,104
it actually marked
a new beginning for him.
1392
01:03:37,188 --> 01:03:39,857
A year after his diagnosis,
he became the first person with MS
1393
01:03:39,941 --> 01:03:41,776
to play in the NBA.
1394
01:03:41,859 --> 01:03:44,362
Chris Wright and his neurologist
Dr. Heidi Crayton
1395
01:03:44,445 --> 01:03:47,490
join us now to discuss
the condition and Chris's treatment.
1396
01:03:47,573 --> 01:03:50,076
MS is a condition that affects
the central nervous system,
1397
01:03:50,159 --> 01:03:52,912
which is any part of the brain,
any part of the spinal cord.
1398
01:03:52,995 --> 01:03:55,790
And how people experience MS
really depends on where they're affected.
1399
01:03:55,873 --> 01:03:58,793
So, people can have visual issues,
they can have sensation
1400
01:03:58,876 --> 01:04:01,254
or balance issues, weakness.
1401
01:04:01,337 --> 01:04:03,256
I told the head coach,
I was like, "Yo, coach,
1402
01:04:03,339 --> 01:04:04,715
I don't know what's going on."
1403
01:04:05,383 --> 01:04:07,134
And you know that whenever
a rookie say something,
1404
01:04:07,218 --> 01:04:09,053
they looking at you like,
"Whatever."
1405
01:04:09,136 --> 01:04:12,849
I'm like, "Nah, for real.
I'm not... I can't feel nothing."
1406
01:04:12,932 --> 01:04:14,225
So they told me to take the day off.
1407
01:04:14,308 --> 01:04:15,518
I went to the doctor,
1408
01:04:16,185 --> 01:04:18,479
and when I went to the doctor,
they did all the little testing,
1409
01:04:18,563 --> 01:04:20,022
"Can you feel this?"
"No, I can't feel this."
1410
01:04:20,106 --> 01:04:21,274
"Alright, well, take the day off."
1411
01:04:21,649 --> 01:04:24,861
Drink some water is what they told me.
Mm... Alright.
1412
01:04:24,944 --> 01:04:28,364
Um, so I went home
and kind of forgot about it.
1413
01:04:28,447 --> 01:04:30,700
You know, I'm walking around and stuff,
but it just feels weird.
1414
01:04:30,783 --> 01:04:32,702
Then I go to sleep.
The next morning, I wake up,
1415
01:04:33,327 --> 01:04:36,122
go to get out-- get out of the bed,
I fall and collapse to the floor.
1416
01:04:36,914 --> 01:04:40,334
No feeling, I can't lift my legs,
I can't lift my arms, nothing like that.
1417
01:04:40,418 --> 01:04:43,880
I had to crawl to text my teammate
to come help me
1418
01:04:43,963 --> 01:04:45,715
in the-- in the apartment
and all that stuff.
1419
01:04:45,798 --> 01:04:49,093
And then I went back,
this time in a wheelchair
1420
01:04:49,176 --> 01:04:50,344
because I couldn't move.
1421
01:04:51,178 --> 01:04:54,056
Again, they told me nothing was wrong
even though I came in a wheelchair.
1422
01:04:54,140 --> 01:04:57,268
So, I had some choice words,
you know what I'm saying?
1423
01:04:57,351 --> 01:04:59,020
It got a little-- Got my point across
1424
01:04:59,103 --> 01:05:01,480
and they sent me
to a specialist in Istanbul.
1425
01:05:02,106 --> 01:05:04,233
And that's when I was diagnosed
with multiple sclerosis.
1426
01:05:04,317 --> 01:05:06,527
And at the time, I ain't gonna lie,
I wasn't even tripping.
1427
01:05:06,611 --> 01:05:11,032
I wasn't even like...
like devastated, nothing. I just-- It--
1428
01:05:11,115 --> 01:05:12,825
'Cause everything happened so fast.
1429
01:05:12,909 --> 01:05:14,702
I was like, "What you mean?"
Like, what-- what--
1430
01:05:14,785 --> 01:05:17,288
"I can't play no more? I was just running
and dunking and jumping,
1431
01:05:17,371 --> 01:05:19,040
"and flying around yesterday...
1432
01:05:19,123 --> 01:05:20,750
- "...and now you gonna tell me
1433
01:05:20,833 --> 01:05:22,418
because of something
that just happened..."
1434
01:05:22,501 --> 01:05:23,586
I don't even know what it is.
1435
01:05:23,669 --> 01:05:25,838
I didn't-- had no clue
what multiple sclerosis was.
1436
01:05:25,922 --> 01:05:27,965
"...that I could never
play basketball again?
1437
01:05:28,090 --> 01:05:30,259
Nah, you got that wrong."
1438
01:05:31,093 --> 01:05:32,929
Chris Wright
fancies his chances,
1439
01:05:33,012 --> 01:05:34,597
and why not?
1440
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,099
I don't think people
truly understand, you know,
1441
01:05:37,183 --> 01:05:39,352
how significant it's for Chris Wright
1442
01:05:39,435 --> 01:05:41,646
to be playing
professional basketball in general,
1443
01:05:41,729 --> 01:05:44,315
let alone the NBA with multiple sclerosis.
1444
01:05:44,398 --> 01:05:47,526
He not only battled
through that in Turkey
1445
01:05:47,610 --> 01:05:50,613
but subsequently ended up
making it to the NBA
1446
01:05:50,696 --> 01:05:53,032
with the Dallas Mavericks
and playing in a NBA game
1447
01:05:53,491 --> 01:05:54,617
with this same disease.
1448
01:05:54,700 --> 01:05:58,579
The league is made up of around
400 players every year, give or take.
1449
01:05:58,663 --> 01:06:01,874
And there are tens of thousands
of American basketball players
1450
01:06:01,958 --> 01:06:04,168
that are trying to play
professional basketball.
1451
01:06:04,251 --> 01:06:07,046
So, for him to get one
of those coveted spots
1452
01:06:07,129 --> 01:06:10,049
while being diagnosed
with that debilitating disease,
1453
01:06:10,132 --> 01:06:11,717
it's nothing short of a miracle.
1454
01:06:11,801 --> 01:06:15,262
Seven doctors said, "No,
you can never do this again."
1455
01:06:15,346 --> 01:06:17,598
And I kept saying, "Alright, well,
I'ma go find somebody else."
1456
01:06:17,682 --> 01:06:18,683
Yeah.
1457
01:06:18,766 --> 01:06:20,810
I had to teach myself
how to do everything again:
1458
01:06:20,893 --> 01:06:23,646
walk, I had to teach myself how to run
and teach myself how to shoot,
1459
01:06:23,729 --> 01:06:24,939
had to teach myself how to jump.
1460
01:06:25,022 --> 01:06:27,024
Now, fast-forward eight months,
1461
01:06:27,108 --> 01:06:28,985
nine months later, I was in NBA.
1462
01:06:29,068 --> 01:06:31,362
I had an opportunity to go--
go to the NBA,
1463
01:06:31,445 --> 01:06:34,198
um, specifically when I
was leaving Olympiacos.
1464
01:06:34,281 --> 01:06:38,119
Um, it was either go to CSKA or go to--
at the time it was the Atlanta Hawks,
1465
01:06:38,202 --> 01:06:41,580
and I chose to stay overseas
and not even like-- throughout my career,
1466
01:06:41,664 --> 01:06:43,833
not even necessarily explore
those NBA opportunities
1467
01:06:43,916 --> 01:06:46,544
because I really enjoyed
playing basketball overseas.
1468
01:06:46,627 --> 01:06:48,796
Kyle said something
that was very profound.
1469
01:06:50,089 --> 01:06:52,591
He said that American basketball players
1470
01:06:53,259 --> 01:06:56,721
are signed overseas but set up to fail.
1471
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,933
And I never thought about it
like that, but it's very true,
1472
01:07:01,017 --> 01:07:03,811
because when you play overseas,
1473
01:07:03,894 --> 01:07:05,604
you know that there's a cloud over you,
1474
01:07:05,688 --> 01:07:08,983
and you have a very short leash
to make mistakes
1475
01:07:09,066 --> 01:07:12,528
because you will always be the scapegoat
and the first person they look at,
1476
01:07:12,611 --> 01:07:15,197
because they're paying
the most money for you to be there.
1477
01:07:15,281 --> 01:07:17,491
It costs a lot to bring an American
1478
01:07:17,575 --> 01:07:19,410
to a team, internationally.
1479
01:07:19,493 --> 01:07:21,495
You have to pay for visas,
you have to pay for the housing,
1480
01:07:21,579 --> 01:07:23,122
you have to pay for round trip flights,
1481
01:07:23,205 --> 01:07:24,290
you have to pay for cars,
1482
01:07:24,373 --> 01:07:26,584
you have to obviously pay
a salary, insurance.
1483
01:07:26,667 --> 01:07:28,044
There are a lot of things that come
1484
01:07:28,127 --> 01:07:30,254
with signing an American
in these countries
1485
01:07:30,337 --> 01:07:32,757
because they're not-- you're not just
signing them as a basketball player,
1486
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,384
you're signing them
as a working citizen in the country.
1487
01:07:37,219 --> 01:07:40,431
The NBA is the NBA. Like, that--
There's no substitute for that.
1488
01:07:40,514 --> 01:07:42,391
But for me, like,
you know, I found my niche,
1489
01:07:42,475 --> 01:07:45,061
and I was like, you know, I'm just gonna
stick with it and stay with it.
1490
01:07:45,144 --> 01:07:46,645
And-and-and like I said,
1491
01:07:46,729 --> 01:07:48,773
I think it's-- it's worked out
for me just a little bit.
1492
01:07:48,856 --> 01:07:51,776
In terms of what
the-- the negatives are overseas,
1493
01:07:51,859 --> 01:07:54,403
not getting paid on time,
not getting paid at all.
1494
01:07:54,487 --> 01:07:56,864
Um, and that's a big issue overseas.
1495
01:07:56,947 --> 01:07:58,199
So, I would say that,
1496
01:07:58,282 --> 01:08:00,159
because you can't really have
a union over there.
1497
01:08:00,242 --> 01:08:02,036
It's tough 'cause it's
so many different countries,
1498
01:08:02,119 --> 01:08:03,329
so many different rules.
1499
01:08:03,913 --> 01:08:07,416
So there's no-- And FIBA's going
to side more with the clubs
1500
01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:10,127
because that's where
they getting their money from.
1501
01:08:10,211 --> 01:08:11,921
You know, so it just makes more sense
1502
01:08:12,004 --> 01:08:14,090
that we will have some...
1503
01:08:14,173 --> 01:08:16,008
we don't have as much leverage as we want.
1504
01:08:16,092 --> 01:08:20,554
"2007." Yeah, 2007
Pan American Games, USA jersey.
1505
01:08:20,638 --> 01:08:22,223
That was a dope experience.
1506
01:08:22,306 --> 01:08:25,267
I consider FIBA,
which is the governing body
1507
01:08:25,351 --> 01:08:27,144
of international basketball,
1508
01:08:27,228 --> 01:08:28,938
it's organized chaos.
1509
01:08:29,021 --> 01:08:32,525
And so, obviously everybody has contracts,
1510
01:08:32,608 --> 01:08:36,237
and there's, you know, stanzas in place
1511
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,072
where if things go left,
1512
01:08:38,155 --> 01:08:40,366
then you go to arbitration in Switzerland
1513
01:08:40,449 --> 01:08:42,034
because Switzerland is neutral,
1514
01:08:42,118 --> 01:08:44,620
and all of these things are in place.
1515
01:08:44,703 --> 01:08:47,665
A lot of times, the teams know
how to work around that.
1516
01:08:47,748 --> 01:08:50,709
So, for instance, like a country--
like a market like Greece,
1517
01:08:50,793 --> 01:08:53,671
they're infamous
for not paying their players.
1518
01:08:54,380 --> 01:08:56,215
They have outstanding debts
throughout the league.
1519
01:08:56,298 --> 01:08:58,926
Teams have that,
and myself included.
1520
01:08:59,009 --> 01:09:01,679
That was the first and only place
that I didn't get all of my money.
1521
01:09:07,726 --> 01:09:10,437
I went through a economic crisis
when I was in Greece.
1522
01:09:10,521 --> 01:09:11,856
You know, it got to a point,
1523
01:09:11,939 --> 01:09:15,067
uh, where you could only take out
400 Euros a week,
1524
01:09:15,526 --> 01:09:16,569
you know, out of the bank.
1525
01:09:16,652 --> 01:09:18,195
You could swipe your card
as much as you want
1526
01:09:18,279 --> 01:09:19,530
but only 400 Euros a week.
1527
01:09:19,613 --> 01:09:22,575
My thing was, I get that
the Greek citizens, you know,
1528
01:09:22,658 --> 01:09:24,660
they can't take their money
out the bank and stuff like this
1529
01:09:24,743 --> 01:09:26,287
but for the players that are over here,
1530
01:09:26,370 --> 01:09:28,581
like, between basketball,
football, all the sports
1531
01:09:28,664 --> 01:09:30,833
that aren't Greek citizens,
we should be able to take our money out
1532
01:09:30,916 --> 01:09:32,084
and send it back home.
1533
01:09:32,168 --> 01:09:34,253
And Greeks no-- uh, voted against it.
1534
01:09:34,336 --> 01:09:36,505
So, everybody kinda had
to leave their money in the banks.
1535
01:09:36,589 --> 01:09:37,756
You couldn't take it out.
1536
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,217
Uh, and this went on
for probably like two years.
1537
01:09:40,301 --> 01:09:42,720
So. when you go to arbitration,
one, as a player,
1538
01:09:42,803 --> 01:09:44,680
you have to pay for that
out of your pocket.
1539
01:09:44,763 --> 01:09:47,850
That whole process.
That meeting, it's expensive, right?
1540
01:09:47,933 --> 01:09:50,227
And it-- They can draw it out, too.
1541
01:09:50,311 --> 01:09:52,104
The team can draw it out
and things like that.
1542
01:09:52,188 --> 01:09:55,191
And that's-- In that same breath,
you're looking for your next contract.
1543
01:09:55,274 --> 01:09:59,111
So, what they bank on is
the players saying, "Hey, well...
1544
01:10:00,070 --> 01:10:02,865
"yeah, I know I'm owed this money,
but I have my next contract coming up
1545
01:10:02,948 --> 01:10:05,159
and they still might
not rule in my favor."
1546
01:10:05,242 --> 01:10:07,077
You know, that's-- that's the risk,
1547
01:10:07,161 --> 01:10:08,871
and that's the reality
for a lot of players.
1548
01:10:08,954 --> 01:10:11,415
So teams know that.
And there's really little recourse
1549
01:10:11,498 --> 01:10:13,000
that you have to get your money.
1550
01:10:15,044 --> 01:10:17,463
I've been in games where
I've been three for five from three...
1551
01:10:18,631 --> 01:10:20,841
...and I'm thinking to myself,
in the middle of a game,
1552
01:10:20,925 --> 01:10:23,844
"Alright, if I shoot
above 50% this season,
1553
01:10:23,928 --> 01:10:26,180
I'll get more money next year
on my next contract,"
1554
01:10:26,263 --> 01:10:28,557
in the middle of the game.
So I'll turn down wide open shots.
1555
01:10:28,641 --> 01:10:30,434
I'm no longer playing basketball,
1556
01:10:30,517 --> 01:10:32,186
I'm making business decisions
on the court.
1557
01:10:46,784 --> 01:10:48,744
Thank you.
1558
01:10:48,827 --> 01:10:50,412
Just kind of like packing up,
1559
01:10:50,496 --> 01:10:54,333
trying to get myself organized,
um, to pack up
1560
01:10:54,416 --> 01:10:57,503
as the, like, the season's
kinda coming to an end,
1561
01:10:58,045 --> 01:10:59,421
trying to figure out
1562
01:10:59,505 --> 01:11:02,216
how I'm gonna get
all this stuff back home,
1563
01:11:02,716 --> 01:11:07,096
and what I can kind of leave
and maybe give-- give away here,
1564
01:11:07,179 --> 01:11:10,391
uh, and what I can take back home.
1565
01:11:10,474 --> 01:11:12,768
It's kind of like a bittersweet feeling
1566
01:11:12,851 --> 01:11:14,645
of knowing the season is ending
1567
01:11:14,728 --> 01:11:18,148
and I get to go home,
see my family, um...
1568
01:11:19,191 --> 01:11:21,527
but also knowing that, like, basketball
1569
01:11:21,610 --> 01:11:24,738
is-- is kinda coming
to an end for this year
1570
01:11:24,822 --> 01:11:26,782
is a little bit-- is a little bit sad,
1571
01:11:26,865 --> 01:11:30,119
but also very exciting for me to go home.
1572
01:11:30,202 --> 01:11:32,496
'Cause you're-- you're here
for majority of the year
1573
01:11:32,579 --> 01:11:34,248
and it gets tough.
1574
01:11:34,331 --> 01:11:36,333
Like, you-- you spend a lot
of time by yourself
1575
01:11:36,417 --> 01:11:40,129
without seeing people that you see
on a day-to-day basis at home.
1576
01:11:40,212 --> 01:11:43,132
So this-- it's kinda exciting for me,
1577
01:11:43,215 --> 01:11:47,261
besides the stressful part of, uh,
just trying to pack and everything.
1578
01:11:55,311 --> 01:11:56,979
For my career, I definitely have--
1579
01:11:57,062 --> 01:11:59,940
I definitely have some huge decisions
to make very soon.
1580
01:12:00,691 --> 01:12:03,402
The season ends,
the regular season ends in three weeks.
1581
01:12:03,485 --> 01:12:07,072
If we have playoffs, the season ends
in five to six weeks.
1582
01:12:07,156 --> 01:12:10,034
So, I'm pretty much getting
to the near-- near the end of it,
1583
01:12:10,117 --> 01:12:12,077
and it's time to figure out
what my next steps are.
1584
01:12:12,161 --> 01:12:13,912
I don't really want to stay idle too long.
1585
01:12:13,996 --> 01:12:15,831
I'm just gonna have to talk to--
to my agent,
1586
01:12:15,914 --> 01:12:18,917
gonna have to talk to Mike,
and see what--
1587
01:12:19,001 --> 01:12:20,252
see what the market is saying,
1588
01:12:20,336 --> 01:12:22,671
or what my-- my new value
in the market would be
1589
01:12:22,755 --> 01:12:24,089
as a basketball player.
1590
01:12:25,257 --> 01:12:27,968
Will I come back to Australia
and play for the same team?
1591
01:12:28,052 --> 01:12:30,262
Will I play for a different team
in the same league?
1592
01:12:30,346 --> 01:12:32,931
Will I go to one
of the different NBL1 leagues,
1593
01:12:33,015 --> 01:12:36,060
like the south and north in Australia?
1594
01:12:36,143 --> 01:12:38,604
Will I go to Europe, South America?
1595
01:12:38,687 --> 01:12:41,523
I'm not sure if there's a country
that I can think of right now
1596
01:12:41,607 --> 01:12:43,734
that I definitely wouldn't play in.
1597
01:12:43,817 --> 01:12:47,237
Um, I'd be open to-- to plenty of markets.
1598
01:12:47,321 --> 01:12:48,906
Um, I'm very adventurous.
1599
01:12:48,989 --> 01:12:51,825
So even if it's a-- a country
that seems weird,
1600
01:12:51,909 --> 01:12:53,827
I feel like I'd end up
going to the country
1601
01:12:53,911 --> 01:12:54,912
just to see what it's like.
1602
01:12:54,995 --> 01:12:56,121
As I've gone through this career,
1603
01:12:56,205 --> 01:12:58,248
getting to know some players
that played in the EuroLeague.
1604
01:12:58,332 --> 01:13:00,918
When I was, uh, training earlier
this year, for example,
1605
01:13:01,001 --> 01:13:03,379
I got-- I got to train with somebody
named James Gist,
1606
01:13:03,462 --> 01:13:06,215
who's-- who I heard played
in EuroLeague, which was pretty cool.
1607
01:13:06,298 --> 01:13:07,758
He was telling me about his experiences,
1608
01:13:07,841 --> 01:13:10,594
and it's-- it's just amazing to see people
live their life, you know?
1609
01:13:10,677 --> 01:13:13,138
I'm first generation in my family
doing something like this.
1610
01:13:13,222 --> 01:13:16,016
I never had somebody lay out
the blueprint for me.
1611
01:13:16,433 --> 01:13:17,643
Now I have the blueprint.
1612
01:13:18,185 --> 01:13:20,312
I feel like it would be a sin
1613
01:13:20,396 --> 01:13:24,149
to... waste the gift
that God blessed me with,
1614
01:13:25,275 --> 01:13:27,403
to not give back to the next generation
that's coming up.
1615
01:13:27,486 --> 01:13:29,613
To not teach the game,
to not help them understand,
1616
01:13:29,696 --> 01:13:32,574
you know, what this game
can really do for you.
1617
01:13:32,658 --> 01:13:35,452
And not just the game of basketball,
but how it correlates to life, you know?
1618
01:13:38,914 --> 01:13:40,833
Overseas basketball is a grind,
1619
01:13:40,916 --> 01:13:43,252
but what he went through
to get to where he is now
1620
01:13:43,335 --> 01:13:46,588
in the NBL1 in Australia,
is beyond a grind.
1621
01:13:46,964 --> 01:13:49,007
Like, he was subjected to things
1622
01:13:49,091 --> 01:13:51,051
that most people couldn't handle.
1623
01:13:51,135 --> 01:13:53,262
When people think
of professional basketball,
1624
01:13:53,345 --> 01:13:54,888
you don't equate it to struggle.
1625
01:13:54,972 --> 01:13:57,766
He truly had to struggle and adjust
1626
01:13:57,850 --> 01:14:00,769
and... and change his life, literally.
1627
01:14:00,853 --> 01:14:02,938
You know, when you see him
sitting here today
1628
01:14:03,021 --> 01:14:05,691
playing in the NBL1,
what he truly had to sacrifice
1629
01:14:05,774 --> 01:14:08,026
and go through just to get to this point.
1630
01:14:08,110 --> 01:14:10,404
That's one of the biggest things
I want people to get from his story.
1631
01:14:10,487 --> 01:14:12,072
Even when-- if I retire from basketball,
1632
01:14:12,156 --> 01:14:14,616
I'm still gonna play, you know, you still
gonna see me playing everywhere.
1633
01:14:14,700 --> 01:14:16,535
That's just... I mean,
that shit, it's in me.
1634
01:14:16,618 --> 01:14:19,872
I don't-- I don't have to get paid
necessarily to play basketball.
1635
01:14:19,955 --> 01:14:21,373
I ain't get paid for a long time,
1636
01:14:21,457 --> 01:14:23,333
and I was playing that shit,
you know what I'm saying?
1637
01:14:23,417 --> 01:14:28,130
So, when I stop playing, uh,
professionally, who knows?
1638
01:14:33,093 --> 01:14:34,470
What I've learned from my career
1639
01:14:34,553 --> 01:14:37,347
is that you don't know
what tomorrow's gonna bring
1640
01:14:37,431 --> 01:14:39,266
as far as a professional athlete.
1641
01:14:39,641 --> 01:14:41,185
You don't know if next season is when
1642
01:14:41,268 --> 01:14:44,229
you're gonna get your big--
big break and make the league.
1643
01:14:44,313 --> 01:14:45,898
You don't know if you're
gonna get a raise.
1644
01:14:45,981 --> 01:14:48,901
You don't know if you're
gonna get injured.
1645
01:14:53,780 --> 01:14:56,408
About Saudi Arabia,
I'm excited about the team
1646
01:14:56,492 --> 01:14:57,993
that I'm gonna be playing on,
1647
01:14:58,535 --> 01:15:01,663
but for me, I'm just thankful
overall that, you know,
1648
01:15:01,747 --> 01:15:03,248
I'll be turning 36 this year.
1649
01:15:03,332 --> 01:15:05,667
I'll be going into my 13th season,
1650
01:15:06,126 --> 01:15:07,461
and I'm still able to do this.
1651
01:15:07,544 --> 01:15:09,254
So, that's how I'm looking at it.
1652
01:15:09,338 --> 01:15:12,758
I'm just thankful that at 35
I can still do what I love
1653
01:15:12,841 --> 01:15:14,843
and still get signed and play
to do what I love.
1654
01:15:14,927 --> 01:15:16,220
So, I'm thankful.
1655
01:15:18,222 --> 01:15:19,932
I know a lot of guys
get discouraged off that,
1656
01:15:20,015 --> 01:15:21,266
like they need the nice apartment,
1657
01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:24,728
they need the-- the-- the nice car
to drive, or whatever.
1658
01:15:24,811 --> 01:15:27,064
I'm just there to get the job done,
you know what I'm saying?
1659
01:15:27,147 --> 01:15:29,691
I'm there to get the job done,
be the best player I can be,
1660
01:15:29,775 --> 01:15:32,444
be the best teammate I can be,
the best person I can be.
1661
01:15:33,070 --> 01:15:36,031
And with the understanding that--
that that's not my home,
1662
01:15:36,949 --> 01:15:38,784
that my home is here with my family.
1663
01:15:39,201 --> 01:15:42,621
I want to squeeze every bit
of juice I can out of my career.
1664
01:15:42,704 --> 01:15:45,290
So when I'm done, I will never be like,
1665
01:15:45,374 --> 01:15:48,126
I could have done this,
I could have went harder.
1666
01:15:48,210 --> 01:15:51,588
Like, I'm real--
I'm-- I'm trying to go as hard as I can
1667
01:15:51,672 --> 01:15:53,090
and live with whatever happens,
1668
01:15:53,173 --> 01:15:56,969
live with however my career played out
knowing that I did all I could.
1669
01:15:57,553 --> 01:15:59,012
That's why I go hard.
1670
01:16:14,653 --> 01:16:17,990
To go places and--
and-- and shake hands and meet people
1671
01:16:18,073 --> 01:16:19,783
and then people are like,
"Yo, who are you?"
1672
01:16:19,866 --> 01:16:21,910
Like, "'Cause why is everybody
coming up to shaking your hand?"
1673
01:16:21,994 --> 01:16:25,038
And I'm like, I'm just, you know, just a--
just a overseas basketball player.
1674
01:16:25,122 --> 01:16:26,456
I've won four EuroLeague titles,
1675
01:16:26,748 --> 01:16:29,960
which I'm the only American
in the history of EuroLeague to do so.
1676
01:16:30,502 --> 01:16:32,671
People would say that
I'm the most decorated
1677
01:16:32,754 --> 01:16:34,965
or the most accomplished American
1678
01:16:35,048 --> 01:16:37,175
in all of overseas basketball.
1679
01:16:37,259 --> 01:16:39,303
I still pinch myself,
you know, every single day.
1680
01:16:39,386 --> 01:16:42,055
- To get respect from your peers, you know,
1681
01:16:42,139 --> 01:16:45,142
means more than any accolade
or any individual accomplish--
1682
01:16:45,225 --> 01:16:47,644
or any, you know, team accomplishment
I can ever have.
1683
01:16:53,483 --> 01:16:56,028
If I need to go clear my head,
I'm going to the gym.
1684
01:16:56,111 --> 01:16:58,405
If, um, I'm upset, I'm going to the gym.
1685
01:16:58,488 --> 01:16:59,948
If I'm happy-- Like, it doesn't matter.
1686
01:17:00,032 --> 01:17:02,492
That's just something that-- that just--
1687
01:17:02,576 --> 01:17:05,120
It's like my-- my safe space
and my happy place.
1688
01:17:05,203 --> 01:17:08,790
So, um, I don't see myself
stopping anytime soon,
1689
01:17:08,874 --> 01:17:11,918
even though it is a grind and it is tough.
1690
01:17:12,002 --> 01:17:13,837
I didn't know
how good she was gonna be,
1691
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:15,547
but being able to be there
every step of the way
1692
01:17:15,631 --> 01:17:16,798
- and watch her evolve...
- Here we go!
1693
01:17:16,882 --> 01:17:18,300
...with the type of basketball player
she is now,
1694
01:17:18,383 --> 01:17:20,552
and even a sister, like,
how much growth I've seen in her,
1695
01:17:20,636 --> 01:17:21,762
it's amazing, really.
1696
01:17:21,845 --> 01:17:23,764
She can still go way higher
than she already is.
1697
01:17:34,232 --> 01:17:37,277
I'm like, "Hold up,
overseas ain't that bad" for one,
1698
01:17:37,361 --> 01:17:39,196
and two, like, you could
really come over here
1699
01:17:39,279 --> 01:17:40,280
and live like Kemba.
1700
01:17:40,364 --> 01:17:42,324
I'm sure he just got off
the plane the other day in Monaco,
1701
01:17:42,407 --> 01:17:45,535
and was he just like, "Damn, man, I'm--
it's better than Charlotte."
1702
01:17:45,619 --> 01:17:49,039
I mean, if you in the NBA, yes, you are,
but you in Monaco.
1703
01:17:49,122 --> 01:17:52,668
You talking about James Bond, 007,
like you Formula One.
1704
01:18:02,803 --> 01:18:04,346
This is the dream.
1705
01:18:04,429 --> 01:18:06,723
We get paid to play basketball,
we get to travel the world.
1706
01:18:13,522 --> 01:18:15,482
I feel like chasing
this dream is worth it.
1707
01:18:15,565 --> 01:18:16,858
I remind myself of that every day,
1708
01:18:16,942 --> 01:18:19,194
how far I've come in a-- a short time,
1709
01:18:19,277 --> 01:18:21,655
the experiences I've gotten
to travel the world,
1710
01:18:21,738 --> 01:18:23,198
experience cultures,
1711
01:18:23,281 --> 01:18:26,576
still playing competitive basketball,
it's worth it to me.
1712
01:18:27,703 --> 01:18:29,871
I went to Greece,
and I played there for seven years.
1713
01:18:30,288 --> 01:18:31,415
I played in an arena
1714
01:18:31,498 --> 01:18:33,583
that at one point had
30,000 people in there,
1715
01:18:33,667 --> 01:18:36,503
you know, for one of our
playoff games, 30,000,
1716
01:18:36,586 --> 01:18:39,506
and, you know,
they're all screaming my name.
1717
01:18:40,090 --> 01:18:42,300
"Gist, Gist, Gist, Gist, Gist."
1718
01:18:42,384 --> 01:18:46,304
Why would I give that up...
to go play in the NBA
1719
01:18:47,139 --> 01:18:48,390
and not be the main guy?
1720
01:18:52,519 --> 01:18:53,895
♪ Why'd you think that
I bruck this weight? ♪
1721
01:18:54,271 --> 01:18:55,647
♪ Tagging it into different shapes ♪
1722
01:18:55,731 --> 01:18:57,482
♪ Supply and demand, I got deals all day ♪
1723
01:18:57,566 --> 01:18:59,192
♪ Really take trips
pulling up on estates ♪
1724
01:18:59,276 --> 01:19:01,153
♪ But I ain't seeing
not one familiar face ♪
1725
01:19:01,236 --> 01:19:02,863
♪ Feds in the rear, fully gas, no brakes ♪
1726
01:19:02,946 --> 01:19:04,698
♪ I'm in a blacked-out
ding dong with no plates ♪
1727
01:19:04,781 --> 01:19:06,241
♪ I'm tryna see
how much bread I can make ♪
1728
01:19:06,658 --> 01:19:08,160
♪ Why'd you think that
I bruck this weight? ♪
1729
01:19:08,577 --> 01:19:09,870
♪ Tagging it into different shapes ♪
1730
01:19:09,953 --> 01:19:11,788
♪ Supply and demand, I got deals all day ♪
1731
01:19:11,872 --> 01:19:13,290
♪ Really take trips
pulling up on estates ♪
1732
01:19:13,373 --> 01:19:15,375
♪ But I ain't seeing
not one familiar face ♪
1733
01:19:15,459 --> 01:19:16,877
♪ Feds in the rear, fully gas, no brakes ♪
1734
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:18,837
♪ I'm in a blacked-out
ding dong with no plates ♪
1735
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:20,797
- ♪ Dots came long, chopped it shorter ♪
1736
01:19:20,881 --> 01:19:22,591
♪ Numb to the fact
death's around the corner ♪
1737
01:19:22,674 --> 01:19:24,301
♪ Masked up, creeping
around like a stalker ♪
1738
01:19:24,384 --> 01:19:26,052
♪ Tryna put somebody's son on my bora ♪
1739
01:19:26,136 --> 01:19:27,846
♪ Six shot spin parked off
and it's greased down ♪
1740
01:19:27,929 --> 01:19:29,431
♪ Weak in the knees now
he's seen this, yeah ♪
1741
01:19:29,514 --> 01:19:31,558
♪ Slap more than one,
I ain't inna no beat down ♪
1742
01:19:31,641 --> 01:19:33,185
♪ This ain't tables, ladders and chairs ♪
1743
01:19:33,268 --> 01:19:34,436
♪ I'm tryna better my circumst... ♪
1744
01:19:34,519 --> 01:19:37,981
Uh, playing with the Maryland Flames,
um, my team.
1745
01:19:38,064 --> 01:19:40,984
And then, this is also another poster
with just our team.
1746
01:19:41,318 --> 01:19:43,612
So, it's cool to just look back
at stuff like this
1747
01:19:43,695 --> 01:19:44,988
when I come home,
1748
01:19:45,405 --> 01:19:47,824
um, and just, like, just take it in
1749
01:19:47,908 --> 01:19:49,826
and realize like how-- where I started
1750
01:19:49,910 --> 01:19:51,536
and where I'm at now is crazy.
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