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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:14,973 --> 00:00:17,183 Kobe, you've been pretty critical of the AAU system 2 00:00:17,267 --> 00:00:18,685 and the way American players are brought up. 3 00:00:18,768 --> 00:00:21,604 Not pretty critical, I'm extremely critical. I hate it. 4 00:00:21,688 --> 00:00:22,689 Because? 5 00:00:22,772 --> 00:00:24,357 Well, because it doesn't teach our players 6 00:00:24,441 --> 00:00:25,859 how to play the right way. 7 00:00:25,942 --> 00:00:28,987 Or how to think the game, how to play in combinations of threes. 8 00:00:29,571 --> 00:00:32,490 I think everything is, uh, you know, it's a reward system. 9 00:00:33,074 --> 00:00:36,745 I think, uh, the coaches who are-- 10 00:00:36,828 --> 00:00:39,330 who aren't teaching the game and getting rewarded 11 00:00:39,414 --> 00:00:41,833 in one fashion or another, 12 00:00:42,250 --> 00:00:44,419 and, uh, it's just a showcase. 13 00:00:44,502 --> 00:00:46,963 - Do you feel like that-- - It's absolutely horrible for the game. 14 00:00:51,926 --> 00:00:54,345 So, as an American, when you're good at basketball... 15 00:01:00,226 --> 00:01:02,687 ...that's the only thing you want to envision from the time you're 12. 16 00:01:06,524 --> 00:01:09,277 When you come up in America, your goal is the NBA. 17 00:01:10,653 --> 00:01:12,072 That's all you see. 18 00:01:13,156 --> 00:01:14,908 That's all you want to be a part of. 19 00:01:14,991 --> 00:01:16,743 There's only 450 players in NBA. 20 00:01:16,826 --> 00:01:20,288 With the first pick in the 2025 NBA draft, 21 00:01:20,371 --> 00:01:23,083 the Dallas Mavericks select Cooper Flagg. 22 00:01:24,167 --> 00:01:27,045 And there's only 60 players that are eligible to be drafted. 23 00:01:27,128 --> 00:01:29,506 It's way more than 60 players going for those spots. 24 00:01:29,589 --> 00:01:32,884 So it's really, like, you know, a lottery in a sense. 25 00:01:32,967 --> 00:01:35,178 On the women's side, it's a little different. 26 00:01:39,474 --> 00:01:41,643 So you only have one opportunity to get drafted, 27 00:01:41,726 --> 00:01:43,603 and then once that's over, that's over. 28 00:01:45,688 --> 00:01:48,149 Playing overseas is honestly where the money is. 29 00:01:48,233 --> 00:01:49,484 I gotta go overseas 30 00:01:49,567 --> 00:01:51,736 and then possibly try and make my way back over. 31 00:01:52,612 --> 00:01:54,697 Everybody that plays ball overseas 32 00:01:54,781 --> 00:01:57,992 has an interesting story, because nobody set out to play overseas. 33 00:02:15,885 --> 00:02:17,762 You put all your efforts 34 00:02:17,846 --> 00:02:19,931 and everything you can into making the NBA. 35 00:02:20,014 --> 00:02:23,143 I got waived, like, right before the season was about to start. 36 00:02:23,226 --> 00:02:24,394 And then I went undrafted. 37 00:02:24,477 --> 00:02:27,480 My agent told me, instead, "You've got a offer in Italy." 38 00:02:27,564 --> 00:02:30,817 Detroit says, "We want to pick you. I think a 33rd pick, a 36th pick? 39 00:02:30,900 --> 00:02:32,819 But we want you to do a year overseas." 40 00:02:32,902 --> 00:02:33,945 Hell no. 41 00:02:34,028 --> 00:02:35,697 That shit says, "Siberia." 42 00:02:36,948 --> 00:02:39,576 Like, where we at? Where did I... What the... 43 00:02:39,659 --> 00:02:41,327 What did I get myself into, man? 44 00:02:42,662 --> 00:02:45,331 So, off the lines, you wait for me! 45 00:02:45,415 --> 00:02:47,917 Off the line! And all of you! Okay?! 46 00:02:48,001 --> 00:02:50,336 This is the reality of life is you gotta figure shit out. 47 00:02:52,714 --> 00:02:54,549 We're stepping outside of our comfort zone 48 00:02:54,632 --> 00:02:56,467 to pursue a lifelong dream. 49 00:03:04,976 --> 00:03:06,936 All I've ever wanted to do since I was seven 50 00:03:07,020 --> 00:03:08,980 was be a professional basketball player. 51 00:03:09,397 --> 00:03:11,107 I had a lot of success early. 52 00:03:11,191 --> 00:03:12,734 You know, I was always a really good shooter. 53 00:03:12,817 --> 00:03:14,527 So, I knew I had a lot of confidence early. 54 00:03:14,611 --> 00:03:16,738 Now he have Michael Creppy... 55 00:03:16,821 --> 00:03:19,824 There's a huge misconception about international basketball. 56 00:03:19,908 --> 00:03:22,827 I've literally heard people say that it's semi-pro, 57 00:03:22,911 --> 00:03:24,537 and that couldn't be further from the truth. 58 00:03:25,955 --> 00:03:27,665 You hear Luca, you hear Giannis, 59 00:03:27,749 --> 00:03:30,126 and a lot of these NBA players say that 60 00:03:30,210 --> 00:03:32,378 the EuroLeague is much harder than the NBA. 61 00:03:32,462 --> 00:03:34,339 They're-- they're very vocal about that. 62 00:03:35,048 --> 00:03:37,926 Kobe Bryant, he made a statement a few years ago 63 00:03:38,009 --> 00:03:39,886 that said international basketball is 64 00:03:39,969 --> 00:03:42,430 a better brand of basketball than here in the States. 65 00:03:42,513 --> 00:03:44,015 And he got a lot backlash for that. 66 00:03:56,569 --> 00:03:58,655 You know, and I-- I got lucky 'cause I grew up in Europe. 67 00:03:58,738 --> 00:03:59,948 - Right. - And you know, 68 00:04:00,031 --> 00:04:01,407 everything there was still fundamental. 69 00:04:01,491 --> 00:04:03,159 So I learned all the basics. 70 00:04:03,243 --> 00:04:05,203 And I think we're doing a tremendous disservice 71 00:04:05,286 --> 00:04:06,829 to our young basketball players right now. 72 00:04:07,288 --> 00:04:08,957 That's something that definitely needs to be fixed, 73 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,251 and it's going to be one of things I definitely focus on. 74 00:04:18,466 --> 00:04:20,885 I think my dream has become my family's dream. 75 00:04:22,679 --> 00:04:24,973 My mother, she didn't know anything about basketball, 76 00:04:25,056 --> 00:04:27,058 and now you can talk to her, she can tell you 77 00:04:27,141 --> 00:04:29,185 about who she thinks is a good player and a bad player. 78 00:04:29,269 --> 00:04:32,981 She can talk to you about a pick and roll and about who doesn't play defense. 79 00:04:51,874 --> 00:04:53,793 My college recruitment, it was short. 80 00:04:53,876 --> 00:04:56,129 My sophomore year, I jumped out there, 81 00:04:56,212 --> 00:04:58,589 and I said I want to go to Louisville and play for Rick Pitino. 82 00:04:58,673 --> 00:05:00,800 So, Coach Pitino was one of the first coaches 83 00:05:00,883 --> 00:05:02,427 to come visit me during my recruitment. 84 00:05:02,510 --> 00:05:05,388 So he came to my school, he kind of spoke, 85 00:05:05,471 --> 00:05:08,641 and he spoke to my family, spoke to my high school head coach, 86 00:05:08,725 --> 00:05:10,143 and that night I committed. 87 00:05:10,226 --> 00:05:14,522 So, um, it-- it was short because I called out, you know, 88 00:05:14,605 --> 00:05:16,399 where I wanted to go, and it ended up happening. 89 00:06:35,812 --> 00:06:37,480 The amount of opportunities there are 90 00:06:37,563 --> 00:06:39,649 to get paid to play basketball outside of the States, 91 00:06:39,732 --> 00:06:41,442 if you could think of a country 92 00:06:41,526 --> 00:06:44,320 or you think of a continent, they have basketball there. 93 00:06:47,365 --> 00:06:49,075 Basketball in China probably 94 00:06:49,158 --> 00:06:51,369 is the best basketball market in the world. 95 00:06:51,452 --> 00:06:52,620 Even in the States. 96 00:06:53,121 --> 00:06:54,205 Somebody told me a stat, 97 00:06:54,288 --> 00:06:55,957 and I believe it after living there for two years, 98 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,709 there are more people that play basketball in China 99 00:06:58,793 --> 00:07:00,461 than there are in the United States. 100 00:07:02,630 --> 00:07:04,841 I lived in Shanghai, and I lived in Nanjing. 101 00:07:04,924 --> 00:07:06,968 Like, those courts are packed. 102 00:07:07,051 --> 00:07:09,512 Every-- every day after three o'clock when people get off work, 103 00:07:09,595 --> 00:07:11,139 on the weekends, during the mornings, 104 00:07:11,222 --> 00:07:13,558 like, it's an insane basketball market. 105 00:07:13,641 --> 00:07:15,226 They really love the game out there. 106 00:07:16,394 --> 00:07:18,521 I didn't know anything about the Italian League. 107 00:07:18,604 --> 00:07:20,898 I didn't know about-- anything about the tradition. 108 00:07:20,982 --> 00:07:23,943 I just knew that, you know, Italians, they love pasta and things like that. 109 00:07:24,026 --> 00:07:27,029 I ended up signing a contract to go play in Turkey. 110 00:07:27,113 --> 00:07:29,115 I go to Iran. So I go to the Middle East for the first time. 111 00:07:29,198 --> 00:07:32,285 Then I come back to Italy, to Lebanon. 112 00:07:32,368 --> 00:07:34,620 From Lebanon, I go to New Zealand. 113 00:07:34,704 --> 00:07:35,955 I never really looked at basketball 114 00:07:36,038 --> 00:07:37,665 as one of those things I was just really good at. 115 00:07:37,748 --> 00:07:39,250 From New Zealand, I go to Italy. 116 00:07:39,333 --> 00:07:40,918 From Italy, I go to France. 117 00:07:41,002 --> 00:07:42,628 I did it 'cause it was fun. Kept me outta trouble. 118 00:07:42,712 --> 00:07:46,048 From France, I go to Germany. From Germany to Egypt. 119 00:07:46,132 --> 00:07:49,927 I played in Greece, Israel, Switzerland, Turkey, and Australia. 120 00:07:50,011 --> 00:07:52,763 Egypt to Iraq. And now I'm going to Saudi Arabia. 121 00:07:57,518 --> 00:07:59,395 Y'all come off the pick tentative, 122 00:07:59,479 --> 00:08:00,646 then it's gonna be hard... 123 00:08:00,730 --> 00:08:02,398 Players that are coming up 124 00:08:02,482 --> 00:08:04,567 that don't have the right resources in terms of agents 125 00:08:04,650 --> 00:08:06,777 and mentors in this space get scammed a lot. 126 00:08:06,861 --> 00:08:09,614 I had a contract one year where I played in Czech Republic 127 00:08:09,697 --> 00:08:11,699 where I got a bonus for every basket that I scored. 128 00:08:11,782 --> 00:08:13,451 I didn't even know you could get that. 129 00:08:13,534 --> 00:08:15,703 You know, my agent at the time got that for me, 130 00:08:15,786 --> 00:08:17,413 and that opened my mind up to, like, 131 00:08:17,497 --> 00:08:18,664 you can ask for anything. 132 00:08:18,748 --> 00:08:20,958 You know, you ask for a horse if you want one, you know, 133 00:08:21,042 --> 00:08:22,960 and if the team agrees to it, they agree to it. 134 00:08:23,461 --> 00:08:26,047 If we don't do this together, I'm talking about all of us, 135 00:08:26,130 --> 00:08:27,340 then we all lose. 136 00:08:27,423 --> 00:08:28,466 Let's go get it, man. 137 00:08:28,549 --> 00:08:29,584 Let's get working. Come on, man. 138 00:08:31,260 --> 00:08:34,388 Vindicated Sports is my company that I founded in 2017. 139 00:08:34,472 --> 00:08:37,308 I started the company literally to educate and advise players 140 00:08:37,391 --> 00:08:39,435 on the business of international basketball. 141 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:41,437 In this industry, if you have a gap in your profile, 142 00:08:41,521 --> 00:08:43,856 which means if you have a year or more away from the game, 143 00:08:43,940 --> 00:08:45,983 you're basically damaged goods to the industry. 144 00:08:46,067 --> 00:08:47,235 They don't care what I went through. 145 00:08:47,318 --> 00:08:48,569 "Are you able to play now 146 00:08:48,653 --> 00:08:50,738 and can you produce the way we want you to produce?" 147 00:08:50,821 --> 00:08:53,282 And it sounds heartless, it sounds inhumane, 148 00:08:53,366 --> 00:08:55,076 but that's the reality of this industry. 149 00:08:55,159 --> 00:08:57,203 I essentially became what I needed. 150 00:08:57,286 --> 00:08:59,997 I'm giving more direction to players coming up, 151 00:09:00,081 --> 00:09:02,208 and I can kind of help them navigate this, 152 00:09:02,291 --> 00:09:04,418 this-- this interesting world that they're in. 153 00:09:12,426 --> 00:09:13,761 So I'm Garric Young. 154 00:09:13,844 --> 00:09:16,597 If you're in the DMV, you probably know me as Ross. 155 00:09:16,681 --> 00:09:19,517 I play forward, small forward, power forward. 156 00:09:20,518 --> 00:09:22,562 If you need a shooting guard or center, who knows. 157 00:09:22,645 --> 00:09:23,688 Wherever you need me. 158 00:09:23,771 --> 00:09:25,648 One day, I was working out with one of my close friends, 159 00:09:25,731 --> 00:09:27,400 and some guy walks into the gym. 160 00:09:27,483 --> 00:09:29,068 He talked to me about what he was doing. 161 00:09:29,151 --> 00:09:30,820 His name is, uh, Mike Creppy. 162 00:09:30,903 --> 00:09:33,698 Takes players on tours and does consulting for them. 163 00:09:33,781 --> 00:09:36,534 I felt like I-- I tried out just to get my career started. 164 00:09:36,617 --> 00:09:39,412 I wasn't hearing from any NBA teams or G League teams. 165 00:09:39,495 --> 00:09:40,496 I tried the tour. 166 00:09:40,580 --> 00:09:42,999 I believe it was about a week 167 00:09:43,082 --> 00:09:45,793 in Denmark, um, in Copenhagen or Copen-ha-gen. 168 00:09:45,876 --> 00:09:47,003 Don't know how you pronounce it. 169 00:09:47,086 --> 00:09:49,589 I felt like I did pretty well at the tour. I had a good time. 170 00:09:49,672 --> 00:09:52,925 Showed my skillset, at least a good part of it. 171 00:09:53,009 --> 00:09:55,303 Then afterwards, just stayed in contact with Mike, 172 00:09:55,386 --> 00:09:58,973 and then an agent reached out to me after the tour from the player agency. 173 00:09:59,056 --> 00:10:02,059 The best opportunity that came up for me was to play in Germany. 174 00:10:02,518 --> 00:10:06,272 It was called Oberliga, or more-- more specifically Bayernliga, 175 00:10:06,355 --> 00:10:07,857 which is, uh, in South Germany. 176 00:10:23,456 --> 00:10:25,333 - Uh, can I get a café latte? - Mm-hmm. 177 00:10:25,416 --> 00:10:26,500 With caramel? 178 00:10:26,584 --> 00:10:28,085 Caramel syrup, okay. 179 00:10:28,169 --> 00:10:29,587 I've known Lindsey and her family 180 00:10:29,670 --> 00:10:31,213 since she was maybe nine or 10 years old. 181 00:10:31,297 --> 00:10:33,341 She's from my area in Silver Spring, Maryland. 182 00:10:33,424 --> 00:10:37,428 She used to always come up to the same gym that we would train at, 183 00:10:37,511 --> 00:10:39,347 and her dad would ask, 184 00:10:39,430 --> 00:10:41,098 "Hey, can Lindsey jump in the drills with you?" 185 00:10:41,182 --> 00:10:42,642 And she played a lot better than boys. 186 00:10:42,725 --> 00:10:46,771 They call her Pull-Up Pulliam, because her mid-range game is so polished. 187 00:10:46,854 --> 00:10:50,608 And, uh, and she had that ever since she was AAU in high school age. 188 00:10:50,691 --> 00:10:52,943 How'd you find this restaurant, or this coffee shop? 189 00:10:53,027 --> 00:10:54,445 - Mm. - It's pretty cool. 190 00:10:54,820 --> 00:10:57,073 Honestly, I was just looking on, like, Bolt Food one day. 191 00:10:57,156 --> 00:10:58,157 Uh-huh. 192 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,994 And I saw it, and I saw the acai bowl. 193 00:11:02,745 --> 00:11:04,914 - And that was it for you? - Over. Mm-hmm. 194 00:11:04,997 --> 00:11:08,417 And it's funny 'cause, like, when I'm overseas, 195 00:11:09,001 --> 00:11:12,088 I find myself-- Like, I'll go to McDonald's sometimes. 196 00:11:12,171 --> 00:11:13,339 More-- Like, I don't go at home. 197 00:11:13,422 --> 00:11:15,508 - You would never go back home. Yeah. - I would never go at home. 198 00:11:15,591 --> 00:11:18,135 But I don't know, it's just different here 'cause you want to get a taste 199 00:11:18,219 --> 00:11:21,097 of, like, being at home in the States and stuff, so... 200 00:11:34,026 --> 00:11:35,528 The last time I saw Garric play 201 00:11:35,611 --> 00:11:38,864 was literally at our showcase in Denmark in 2023. 202 00:11:40,032 --> 00:11:41,534 - You good? - Boy! 203 00:11:41,617 --> 00:11:42,785 Long time, no see. 204 00:11:42,868 --> 00:11:45,913 Since then, I've been seeing his Instagram posts 205 00:11:45,996 --> 00:11:47,248 and different highlights, 206 00:11:47,331 --> 00:11:48,999 but I've never seen him play in person. 207 00:11:51,752 --> 00:11:53,921 So the role I play with Garric now is just advisor, 208 00:11:54,004 --> 00:11:56,132 somebody that's like a big brother, big homie, 209 00:11:56,215 --> 00:11:59,385 somebody that has lived in what he's trying to go into, 210 00:11:59,468 --> 00:12:00,761 different places overseas. 211 00:12:00,845 --> 00:12:04,640 I've seen a lot of contracts. I know how to negotiate. 212 00:12:04,724 --> 00:12:06,434 I know what the teams are thinking. 213 00:12:06,517 --> 00:12:08,185 So, just giving him perspective 214 00:12:08,269 --> 00:12:10,938 and just being what I needed when I was his age. 215 00:12:11,021 --> 00:12:13,315 And so, as we're interviewing the different players, 216 00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:15,526 they're telling the camera about their journey. 217 00:12:15,609 --> 00:12:19,280 It's amazing what basketball has been able to do 218 00:12:19,363 --> 00:12:21,282 for so many players. 219 00:12:21,365 --> 00:12:23,701 It's opened up the door to-- to the world, 220 00:12:23,784 --> 00:12:25,953 and, you know, that's something that, you know, 221 00:12:26,036 --> 00:12:29,331 is a blessing from God because so many people want to travel 222 00:12:29,415 --> 00:12:31,751 and they don't know how to travel. 223 00:12:36,839 --> 00:12:38,841 Do you know how to pronounce the city that you're in? 224 00:12:41,051 --> 00:12:43,053 Um, I sure could try. 225 00:12:43,137 --> 00:12:45,014 I don't know if it would be spot on. 226 00:12:45,097 --> 00:12:46,599 Bonska... B-- 227 00:12:46,682 --> 00:12:48,184 Alright. Banska? Bonska? 228 00:12:48,267 --> 00:12:50,436 - Banská. - Banská Bystrica? 229 00:12:50,519 --> 00:12:51,520 Bystrika? 230 00:12:51,604 --> 00:12:53,272 Bystrica. Yeah. 231 00:12:54,190 --> 00:12:56,525 - That'll be good. - Still learning. 232 00:13:02,573 --> 00:13:04,742 - Once I do my back, it's done for. - It's almost like... 233 00:13:12,708 --> 00:13:13,751 Oh. 234 00:13:14,877 --> 00:13:17,880 Okay, see, for tomorrow, it's gonna be practice at 9:30. 235 00:13:17,963 --> 00:13:20,591 It's just a shooting session, okay, to warm up a little bit, 236 00:13:20,674 --> 00:13:23,803 and game is at 6:00, so please be ready. 237 00:13:23,886 --> 00:13:25,429 Lot of fans will come. So... 238 00:13:30,059 --> 00:13:32,311 Clearing you up? 239 00:13:32,394 --> 00:13:34,355 Every time that we have a home game, 240 00:13:34,438 --> 00:13:36,357 we-- we all come down here, have team dinner. 241 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,693 Mandatory, no phones, none of that. Or you're getting fined. 242 00:13:39,777 --> 00:13:41,237 You didn't sit with me today. 243 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,988 - What? - You're mad at me? 244 00:13:43,072 --> 00:13:45,074 Um, that's my coach's daughter. Yeah. 245 00:13:45,157 --> 00:13:47,618 - That's her best friend. - That's my little best friend. 246 00:14:00,673 --> 00:14:02,299 Coach didn't speak English. 247 00:14:02,383 --> 00:14:04,468 Um, my assistant coach didn't speak English, 248 00:14:04,552 --> 00:14:07,972 but there was a-- there was a couple guys on my team, 249 00:14:08,055 --> 00:14:11,267 uh, that spoke English and-- and could translate to them 250 00:14:11,350 --> 00:14:13,769 or could translate to me, so that helped me out a lot. 251 00:14:13,853 --> 00:14:16,230 But it was for the first time in my career 252 00:14:16,313 --> 00:14:18,357 that I played for a coach who didn't speak English. 253 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,110 So, me and him couldn't communicate, uh, verbally. 254 00:14:21,193 --> 00:14:23,654 But, you know, just with both loving the game 255 00:14:23,737 --> 00:14:25,072 and just seeing what's going in the game 256 00:14:25,155 --> 00:14:26,824 just through gestures and pointing and stuff. 257 00:14:32,454 --> 00:14:35,583 The way international basketball is broken down, 258 00:14:35,666 --> 00:14:37,042 you have the EuroLeague, right? 259 00:14:37,126 --> 00:14:40,462 The EuroLeague is right under the NBA, it's the top of the top. 260 00:14:41,130 --> 00:14:42,506 Then you have EuroCup, 261 00:14:42,590 --> 00:14:44,425 then you have Basketball Champions League. 262 00:14:44,508 --> 00:14:46,844 And all of those teams that play in international play 263 00:14:46,927 --> 00:14:48,345 also play in the domestic league. 264 00:14:48,429 --> 00:14:51,265 So, in South America, like, some of the more notable countries 265 00:14:51,348 --> 00:14:54,810 are Uruguay, Brazil, Mexico, Puerto Rico. 266 00:14:54,894 --> 00:14:57,479 Than you have in Asia, Australia, the Middle East. 267 00:14:57,563 --> 00:14:59,648 Then, a new league that just started, 268 00:14:59,732 --> 00:15:01,400 which the NBA has sponsored, 269 00:15:01,483 --> 00:15:03,235 is called the Basketball Africa League. 270 00:15:04,111 --> 00:15:06,864 The leagues that I personally think are respected the most 271 00:15:06,947 --> 00:15:10,576 and are looked at as the best leagues are Spain, 272 00:15:10,659 --> 00:15:12,953 Turkey, Russia. 273 00:15:13,037 --> 00:15:14,955 There might be Italy after that. 274 00:15:15,039 --> 00:15:16,832 - You know what I'm saying? - Oh! He reaches. 275 00:15:16,916 --> 00:15:19,376 This is why the Turkish Airlines EuroLeague 276 00:15:19,460 --> 00:15:23,005 is the best basketball league in the world, bar none. 277 00:15:24,590 --> 00:15:27,301 Each league has a different style of play, too. 278 00:15:27,384 --> 00:15:30,137 Like, the Spanish play a different way than the Turkish play. 279 00:15:30,220 --> 00:15:31,722 The Italians play a different way. 280 00:15:31,805 --> 00:15:35,059 Spain, you gonna play 20 minutes because it's 10, 11 guys 281 00:15:35,142 --> 00:15:36,477 that's on ice. 282 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,520 Turkey, you going-- It's a lot of big dudes. 283 00:15:38,604 --> 00:15:42,358 Strong, physical. They real physic-- Let-- let you play more. 284 00:15:42,441 --> 00:15:44,360 Italian league is more of a guard league. 285 00:15:44,443 --> 00:15:45,945 So, you going out there, you get busy. 286 00:15:46,028 --> 00:15:47,821 France is a super athletic league. 287 00:15:47,905 --> 00:15:49,615 Russia's a dope league, 288 00:15:49,698 --> 00:15:51,075 you know, the VTB is a big time-- 289 00:15:51,158 --> 00:15:53,494 That's another type of league VTB is another type of league 290 00:15:53,577 --> 00:15:55,079 So, you got a lot of different leagues, 291 00:15:55,162 --> 00:15:56,997 and it's different style based off of where you at. 292 00:15:57,081 --> 00:16:00,417 Just like, you know, you from the DMV, you-- you play a certain way, 293 00:16:00,501 --> 00:16:02,378 as opposed to somebody from New York City, 294 00:16:02,461 --> 00:16:04,338 as opposed to someone from the South. 295 00:16:04,421 --> 00:16:06,090 You know, we-- we all have our different styles, 296 00:16:06,173 --> 00:16:07,675 and these countries are the same way. 297 00:16:10,719 --> 00:16:12,596 No, it drops for Mike James. 298 00:16:15,891 --> 00:16:18,727 I met Marcus Williams when he was a teammate with James 299 00:16:18,811 --> 00:16:20,646 in Unicaja Málaga in Spain. 300 00:16:20,729 --> 00:16:23,816 Marcus was also himself a first round NBA draft pick. 301 00:16:23,899 --> 00:16:26,527 And he also had a prolific EuroLeague career as well. 302 00:16:26,610 --> 00:16:28,237 So I played summer league with Memphis, 303 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,114 and I signed with Memphis for the season. 304 00:16:30,197 --> 00:16:33,701 But on that team, it was a few guys who played in Europe, 305 00:16:33,784 --> 00:16:36,203 and they were just talking about the teams they were on, 306 00:16:36,286 --> 00:16:39,206 the cities they were partying in, and just different thing. 307 00:16:39,289 --> 00:16:41,583 And I'm like, "This is so-- 308 00:16:41,667 --> 00:16:43,168 I don't know what they talking about, man." 309 00:16:43,252 --> 00:16:46,755 Like, I-- not my first year playing in-- in Europe, but my second year, 310 00:16:46,839 --> 00:16:48,340 I started to hear about EuroLeague. 311 00:16:48,424 --> 00:16:50,759 So I told my agent, like, I was just like, "I just want to play." 312 00:16:50,843 --> 00:16:53,137 Like, my first year I was just like, "I just want to play somewhere." 313 00:16:53,220 --> 00:16:55,973 And he was like, "Alright, like, whatever." 314 00:16:56,056 --> 00:16:57,266 Like, "Alright, cool." 315 00:16:57,349 --> 00:16:59,309 So he found me a team in Russia, right? 316 00:16:59,393 --> 00:17:00,978 We was there for like two or three weeks practicing. 317 00:17:01,061 --> 00:17:02,938 So they was like, "Alright, we about to go home. 318 00:17:03,022 --> 00:17:04,648 Like, get you a apartment and everything." 319 00:17:06,025 --> 00:17:07,776 So they was like, "Yeah, we flying to Moscow." 320 00:17:07,860 --> 00:17:10,237 And I was like, "Alright, and then what? Like-- Like what's our next?" 321 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,573 They was like, "Yeah, the next flight is like six hours." 322 00:17:13,365 --> 00:17:16,410 I'm like, "What? Like, what you mean?" 323 00:17:16,994 --> 00:17:19,496 They like, "Yeah. Like, we stay, like, six hours from Moscow." 324 00:17:19,580 --> 00:17:21,331 And I look at that shit on my map, I'm like, 325 00:17:21,415 --> 00:17:24,251 "Wait, that shit says Siberia in the back." 326 00:17:24,334 --> 00:17:26,462 And I'm looking at this, and I'm like, "Wait, 327 00:17:27,546 --> 00:17:30,466 that's the same Siberia, like the husky and like the...?" 328 00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:32,676 I go to list-- like, read about it, 329 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,720 that shit say, "minus 30, minus 40." 330 00:17:34,803 --> 00:17:35,971 And that was just different, man. 331 00:17:36,055 --> 00:17:38,223 It was-- it was cold, it was bad travels. 332 00:17:38,307 --> 00:17:40,434 The basketball wasn't hard to adjust at all. 333 00:17:40,517 --> 00:17:42,936 I kind of went with the mindset of like, "Man, 334 00:17:43,020 --> 00:17:44,605 like, I should be in the NBA," 335 00:17:44,688 --> 00:17:47,399 like kind of feeling like I was better than that. 336 00:17:47,483 --> 00:17:49,109 So, the approach I took is like, 337 00:17:49,193 --> 00:17:51,028 "I'm just gonna try to come here and kill every day." 338 00:17:51,111 --> 00:17:53,072 But then, you do get humbled playing overseas, 339 00:17:53,155 --> 00:17:55,407 because like I said, those guys are talented. 340 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,833 Playing in the first division as a rookie, 341 00:18:04,917 --> 00:18:07,586 you playing against some of the great talents of Europe. 342 00:18:07,669 --> 00:18:08,754 So, I was humbled, 343 00:18:08,837 --> 00:18:10,709 but I'm thankful that I was able to hold my own as well. 344 00:18:11,924 --> 00:18:12,966 There's so many players, 345 00:18:13,050 --> 00:18:14,426 - there's so much talent... 346 00:18:14,510 --> 00:18:16,220 ...and a team will put the money out there 347 00:18:16,303 --> 00:18:18,347 and they'll say like, "Well, if you won't accept it, 348 00:18:18,430 --> 00:18:20,140 someone else will." You know what I mean? 349 00:18:20,224 --> 00:18:22,351 And that's kind of like the game that they play. 350 00:18:22,893 --> 00:18:25,562 Um, but yeah, that-- that's-- that's just one of the other things 351 00:18:25,646 --> 00:18:28,023 you have to go through being an overseas player. 352 00:18:28,107 --> 00:18:29,775 Like, you know, in the NBA, you know, 353 00:18:29,858 --> 00:18:31,360 who you are is who you are, 354 00:18:31,443 --> 00:18:34,154 but overseas it's kind of like you have to prove it every year. 355 00:18:38,951 --> 00:18:40,744 You can't understand what everybody's talking about 356 00:18:40,828 --> 00:18:42,538 on the street or in the locker room with your teammates 357 00:18:42,621 --> 00:18:44,998 when they're speaking their-- their native language. 358 00:18:45,082 --> 00:18:47,960 You kind of have to be aware. 359 00:18:48,794 --> 00:18:51,130 You gotta be aware of your surroundings, you gotta be, you know, 360 00:18:51,213 --> 00:18:53,006 street smart, I guess people would call it. 361 00:18:53,090 --> 00:18:55,008 Understand, you know, what's going on around you. 362 00:18:55,092 --> 00:18:56,552 - How are you? - Good. And you? 363 00:18:56,635 --> 00:18:57,761 - Doing well. - Thank you. 364 00:18:59,138 --> 00:19:00,305 Yes, sir. 365 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,019 I'm okay, man. Thank you. 366 00:19:06,103 --> 00:19:08,147 You learn very quick. You learn very quick. 367 00:19:08,230 --> 00:19:09,815 I mean, I've done enough traveling, too, 368 00:19:10,315 --> 00:19:13,152 you know, in general around the world where 369 00:19:13,235 --> 00:19:15,612 everybody's trying to make a deal, everybody's trying to sell something. 370 00:19:15,946 --> 00:19:18,407 And it's a hustle. I mean, it is what it is. I respect it. 371 00:19:19,116 --> 00:19:20,617 You just gotta learn how to get yourself in 372 00:19:20,701 --> 00:19:22,619 and get-- get yourself out. 373 00:19:23,203 --> 00:19:25,080 The hardest part is getting out once you get in, 374 00:19:25,164 --> 00:19:26,290 they're not gonna let you leave. 375 00:19:31,461 --> 00:19:35,007 As soon as the season ended in Germany in April, I just, 376 00:19:35,841 --> 00:19:36,925 I took a week to rest. 377 00:19:37,009 --> 00:19:38,927 I packed my stuff, and I headed straight to Canada. 378 00:19:39,011 --> 00:19:41,513 And then, I ended up in Australia by 2024. 379 00:19:41,597 --> 00:19:46,310 All I knew about was, um, EuroLeague and the CBA in China. 380 00:19:46,393 --> 00:19:48,604 Um, that's pretty much... I just thought, like, 381 00:19:48,687 --> 00:19:51,440 old NBA veterans go overseas to play 382 00:19:51,523 --> 00:19:53,066 in the EuroLeague or-- or China 383 00:19:53,150 --> 00:19:55,068 when they're kind of towards the end of their career, 384 00:19:55,152 --> 00:19:58,155 or if they kinda fall out of the NBA 385 00:19:58,238 --> 00:19:59,948 and they want to still continue their career. 386 00:20:00,032 --> 00:20:01,742 I didn't know how vast it was. 387 00:20:01,825 --> 00:20:04,828 Like, how many opportunities, how many teams, countries 388 00:20:04,912 --> 00:20:07,831 have leagues until I started talking to Mike. 389 00:20:09,666 --> 00:20:11,543 Yeah, yeah, it's supposed to be crazy. 390 00:20:12,586 --> 00:20:15,255 I didn't even know there was a league in Denmark before the tour. 391 00:20:15,339 --> 00:20:16,882 Like, that-- that was a shock to me. 392 00:20:16,965 --> 00:20:18,800 Just finding out, there's so many, 393 00:20:18,884 --> 00:20:20,844 so many places to play and leagues to play in. 394 00:20:20,928 --> 00:20:22,888 When I was younger, all I... 395 00:20:22,971 --> 00:20:24,932 ...all I-- all I knew was the NBA and G League. 396 00:20:25,015 --> 00:20:26,683 That's all I watched. That's... 397 00:20:27,559 --> 00:20:29,770 That's all that kind of mattered to me growing up playing basketball. 398 00:20:29,853 --> 00:20:31,813 That's all I considered for my career. 399 00:20:31,897 --> 00:20:34,858 I thought it was NBA-slash- G League or bust for me. 400 00:20:34,942 --> 00:20:37,152 Um, call me delusional if you will. 401 00:20:37,236 --> 00:20:39,696 I thought-- I thought I was-- I was gonna go, so, 402 00:20:40,197 --> 00:20:42,366 I felt-- I felt like I was gonna figure out some way into it. 403 00:20:42,449 --> 00:20:44,743 It's hard to get into the WNBA. 404 00:20:44,826 --> 00:20:48,914 It's, uh... like I said, draft 36. Thirty-six picks. 405 00:20:50,624 --> 00:20:54,294 If it's a good draft year, maybe eight people will make the team. 406 00:20:55,128 --> 00:20:58,048 Once you get drafted, like, nobody's guaranteed 407 00:20:58,131 --> 00:20:59,800 because spots are so limited. 408 00:20:59,883 --> 00:21:02,344 You kind of have to go into that mindset of like, "Okay, 409 00:21:02,427 --> 00:21:04,596 "this is training camp, it's a tryout for me, 410 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,267 and I gotta do whatever I can to fight for however many spots it is." 411 00:21:08,350 --> 00:21:09,935 Probably a bench player 412 00:21:10,018 --> 00:21:12,980 that never touches the-- touches the court in the NBA 413 00:21:13,063 --> 00:21:15,524 is making more than any of us. 414 00:21:15,607 --> 00:21:16,942 - Shout. - Oh my... 415 00:21:17,025 --> 00:21:19,069 - Right in your face. - How we doing? How we doing? 416 00:21:19,152 --> 00:21:21,655 - We're doing good, how are you? - Y'all got enough space? 417 00:21:21,738 --> 00:21:24,157 - Yeah. - We take coach's spot. 418 00:21:25,909 --> 00:21:27,786 You know she's gonna park right beside you, though. 419 00:21:27,869 --> 00:21:28,912 Yeah, I know she will. 420 00:21:28,996 --> 00:21:30,956 - She's not gonna care. - I know. 421 00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:33,792 But still, figure I'd just... 422 00:21:35,210 --> 00:21:37,087 go ahead and mess with her a little bit. 423 00:21:38,255 --> 00:21:39,840 I think we'll both be gone soon. 424 00:21:41,049 --> 00:21:46,471 I can't wait to sleep in my bed at home, home. 425 00:21:46,555 --> 00:21:47,681 Oh, home, home. 426 00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:50,309 It's, like, unmatched, 427 00:21:50,392 --> 00:21:53,895 'cause I-- I can't-- Like, I can't do it with my bed anymore. 428 00:21:53,979 --> 00:21:55,856 Now just the shooting, okay? 429 00:22:06,199 --> 00:22:08,493 ♪ It's the return of the Mack, I'm back hunny ♪ 430 00:22:08,577 --> 00:22:10,579 ♪ I just hit the kill switch feel it in ya tummy ♪ 431 00:22:10,912 --> 00:22:13,457 ♪ Ooh, I got the spice, I know it right... ♪ 432 00:22:13,540 --> 00:22:15,625 Just-- Just to think about it, okay? 433 00:22:17,419 --> 00:22:19,546 ♪ You know what it is, I'm a beast alright ♪ 434 00:22:19,629 --> 00:22:22,382 My name is Ruth Sherrill. I'm from Alexandria, Virginia. 435 00:22:22,466 --> 00:22:24,343 And I was the starting center here at Slavia. 436 00:22:24,676 --> 00:22:27,971 In the semi-finals game, I was posting up, 437 00:22:28,055 --> 00:22:29,639 fucked-- messed my knee up. 438 00:22:29,723 --> 00:22:32,142 Uh, so yeah, 439 00:22:32,225 --> 00:22:34,019 I found out it was a partial ACL tear. 440 00:22:34,102 --> 00:22:36,521 But I do believe that my impact with the team 441 00:22:36,605 --> 00:22:38,774 just being a leader, being super communicative, 442 00:22:38,857 --> 00:22:41,735 being very supportive, you know, on and off the court 443 00:22:41,818 --> 00:22:43,153 is the reason why I'm still here. 444 00:22:43,236 --> 00:22:45,697 So, there's different ways that athletes can support their teams 445 00:22:45,781 --> 00:22:46,865 even when they can't play. 446 00:22:46,948 --> 00:22:49,743 I was told on graduation day that I couldn't play anymore. 447 00:22:49,826 --> 00:22:52,162 So, I had like a really bad left foot, 448 00:22:52,245 --> 00:22:55,123 and, like, the X-ray... MRI came back, 449 00:22:55,207 --> 00:22:58,794 and it was like 75% black, which it should not be. 450 00:22:58,877 --> 00:23:01,129 It should be more white on that-- on the, uh, MRI. 451 00:23:01,213 --> 00:23:03,298 So he's like, "Yeah we're going to try and fuse, 452 00:23:03,382 --> 00:23:05,926 "like, the Achilles and, like, your tibia, like... 453 00:23:06,176 --> 00:23:07,552 You definitely won't be able to play." 454 00:23:07,636 --> 00:23:09,137 And I was like, "Okay, that's not an option." 455 00:23:09,221 --> 00:23:11,848 And I just remember going home and just being like, "What am I gonna do?" 456 00:23:11,932 --> 00:23:14,851 I mean, my best friend is Tina Charles, she's the number one pick in the draft. 457 00:23:14,935 --> 00:23:16,311 And my mom-mom just said, 458 00:23:16,395 --> 00:23:18,063 "Hey, reach out to coach, ask him about an agent." 459 00:23:18,146 --> 00:23:19,481 He got me an opportunity in Greece, 460 00:23:19,564 --> 00:23:21,483 and that's kinda how everything took off. 461 00:23:21,566 --> 00:23:23,068 The biggest thing with people, 462 00:23:23,151 --> 00:23:25,779 especially Americans when we come overseas is that we get lonely. 463 00:23:25,862 --> 00:23:27,155 We by ourselves. 464 00:23:30,951 --> 00:23:34,079 My first job was in Italy, a team called Angelico Biella. 465 00:23:34,162 --> 00:23:35,622 It was an experience, you know, 466 00:23:35,705 --> 00:23:38,125 knowing that I'm not about to be in the States, 467 00:23:38,208 --> 00:23:39,376 and I'm by myself at the time. 468 00:23:39,459 --> 00:23:41,294 So, I'm going over to Italy by myself, you know, 469 00:23:41,378 --> 00:23:43,004 I'm about to live in a whole another country. 470 00:23:43,088 --> 00:23:45,132 No family, no friends, no nothing. 471 00:23:45,215 --> 00:23:48,677 Um... interesting. 472 00:23:50,762 --> 00:23:53,223 And as you can see, I'm Mr. Everything. 473 00:23:53,306 --> 00:23:56,435 I'm the manager, I'm the agent, I'm the coach. 474 00:23:56,518 --> 00:23:59,771 I'm the laundromat, I'm the financier. 475 00:23:59,855 --> 00:24:02,274 It's extremely hard because 476 00:24:02,983 --> 00:24:05,193 a lot of people view it as you on vacation, one. 477 00:24:05,277 --> 00:24:07,320 Like, they don't understand you're really working. 478 00:24:07,404 --> 00:24:08,488 Like, it's work. 479 00:24:08,572 --> 00:24:11,408 And so, they think that, "Oh, you're in Athens, Greece, 480 00:24:11,491 --> 00:24:14,578 "or you're in these beautiful-- Madrid, Spain, and all of these places, 481 00:24:14,661 --> 00:24:16,496 why can't you answer the phone when I'm calling you?" 482 00:24:16,580 --> 00:24:18,623 You know, "Why are you taking so long to answer back?" 483 00:24:18,707 --> 00:24:20,792 And, like, you're working. 484 00:24:20,876 --> 00:24:23,044 There's a time difference, there's all of these things, right? 485 00:24:23,128 --> 00:24:24,629 And obviously, if you want to make it happen, 486 00:24:24,713 --> 00:24:25,797 you can make it happen. 487 00:24:25,881 --> 00:24:28,425 But it takes two people that want to make it happen 488 00:24:28,508 --> 00:24:30,635 in terms of your spouse and whoever that is. 489 00:24:30,719 --> 00:24:32,471 And then, obviously, once you have kids involved, 490 00:24:32,554 --> 00:24:33,763 they do have international schools. 491 00:24:33,847 --> 00:24:36,266 But these are all things that you can talk to your team about, 492 00:24:36,349 --> 00:24:37,559 and they'll help you set that up. 493 00:24:37,642 --> 00:24:39,936 Most FIBA, um, teams are reputable, 494 00:24:40,020 --> 00:24:41,480 and they want you to be comfortable, 495 00:24:41,563 --> 00:24:43,064 because if you're comfortable off the court, 496 00:24:43,148 --> 00:24:44,357 you'll perform better on the court. 497 00:24:44,441 --> 00:24:46,401 When I first landed in Australia, 498 00:24:46,485 --> 00:24:48,570 I landed in Sydney, New South Wales. 499 00:24:48,653 --> 00:24:51,823 What hit me first was-- was the plane ride. 500 00:24:51,907 --> 00:24:53,617 That was the longest plane ride of my life. 501 00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:56,036 That was-- That was a tough one for me. 502 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,498 Traveling to Tamworth, like, there's a lot of greenery. 503 00:24:59,581 --> 00:25:01,500 You go through some bushland, but it, for the most part, 504 00:25:01,583 --> 00:25:02,834 it's pretty-- it's pretty beautiful. 505 00:25:02,918 --> 00:25:05,170 Like, you go through mountains, it's just, it was cool to see 506 00:25:05,253 --> 00:25:07,130 how different the terrain is in the country. 507 00:25:07,214 --> 00:25:10,091 Like, how-- how vast the ecosystem is out here. 508 00:25:10,175 --> 00:25:12,260 I saw my kangaroo on the side of the road. 509 00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:13,678 That was a big moment for me. 510 00:25:16,181 --> 00:25:18,600 Yesterday, I went to go pick up my mom from the airport. 511 00:25:18,975 --> 00:25:19,976 That is my mom. 512 00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:22,145 - That's your mom? - Yeah. Yee-hee. 513 00:25:27,317 --> 00:25:29,486 - Hi, Mom. - Good to see you. 514 00:25:33,073 --> 00:25:34,574 I'm eating good. I'm eating good this time. 515 00:25:34,658 --> 00:25:35,742 Good. 516 00:25:36,034 --> 00:25:37,577 - Mm. How are you? - Oh! 517 00:25:37,661 --> 00:25:39,871 - Auntie Alba. How are you? - Hi, sweetie. 518 00:25:39,955 --> 00:25:41,289 I'm good, thanks. 519 00:25:41,915 --> 00:25:43,041 Smooth flying? 520 00:25:43,124 --> 00:25:45,085 - You look so handsome. - You really do. 521 00:25:45,168 --> 00:25:46,836 I had to look good when you guys came, you know. 522 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,922 Okay, I'm stop-- I got it together. You know. 523 00:25:49,005 --> 00:25:50,465 You guys look a little tan. 524 00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:53,051 Oh, we look a little tan? 525 00:25:54,094 --> 00:25:56,930 It's always a really emotional moment when I pick her up. 526 00:25:57,013 --> 00:25:58,557 We always miss each other a bunch. 527 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,934 If she can, wherever I am in the world, 528 00:26:01,017 --> 00:26:02,894 she-- she, like-- she loves traveling. 529 00:26:02,978 --> 00:26:06,022 She misses me 'cause I-- I go long stints without seeing her. 530 00:26:06,106 --> 00:26:08,525 And I'm kind of a mama's boy, not gonna lie. 531 00:26:08,608 --> 00:26:11,152 So, she just came to see me, to be honest. 532 00:26:11,236 --> 00:26:13,446 She wanted to see a game while she was here. 533 00:26:13,530 --> 00:26:15,824 I feel like that just made the most sense, you know, 534 00:26:15,907 --> 00:26:17,993 to see the reason why I'm out here pursuing this career. 535 00:26:22,163 --> 00:26:24,291 So, when you came, was the water warm? 536 00:26:24,374 --> 00:26:26,334 Yeah, it was a little warmer, like... 537 00:26:26,418 --> 00:26:28,587 - But it is the Pacific-- - It was just, it was a lot warmer outside. 538 00:26:28,670 --> 00:26:30,714 - Yeah, so it was refreshing - It's not as warm as it was back home. 539 00:26:30,797 --> 00:26:32,007 Yeah, it was nice. It felt good. 540 00:26:32,090 --> 00:26:33,550 I mean the Pacific is always gonna be the Pacific. 541 00:26:33,633 --> 00:26:35,343 Just like the Atlantic is always gonna be the Atlantic. 542 00:26:35,427 --> 00:26:37,304 Yeah, exactly, exactly. It's calm though, it's nice. 543 00:26:37,387 --> 00:26:39,389 High school was like very cultural for you. 544 00:26:39,472 --> 00:26:40,849 - Because you had so many-- - True. 545 00:26:40,932 --> 00:26:42,100 It was very diverse... 546 00:26:42,183 --> 00:26:44,728 - Yes, it was. - ...in terms of cultures. 547 00:26:44,811 --> 00:26:47,022 But also, in some of the places you've been, 548 00:26:47,105 --> 00:26:49,566 you've just been able to travel. 549 00:26:49,649 --> 00:26:51,526 So, Europe, right? So when you were in Germany, 550 00:26:51,985 --> 00:26:53,820 it was a small town, 551 00:26:53,903 --> 00:26:55,238 but, like, we went to Salzburg, 552 00:26:55,322 --> 00:26:56,865 - I mean everything... - Yeah, Munich. 553 00:26:56,948 --> 00:26:58,658 Munich, everything was just so close. 554 00:26:58,742 --> 00:27:01,828 So you can experience so many different things. 555 00:27:01,911 --> 00:27:04,122 Even being centrally located in one area. 556 00:27:04,205 --> 00:27:05,248 That's true. And it's-- 557 00:27:05,332 --> 00:27:07,792 It's a lot different living somewhere than, like, 558 00:27:07,876 --> 00:27:08,960 visiting for vacation. 559 00:27:09,044 --> 00:27:10,545 I think that was the biggest difference. 560 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,005 It is crazy though. 561 00:27:12,088 --> 00:27:14,841 I hope, like, the career I can just show you 562 00:27:14,924 --> 00:27:15,925 more and more places. 563 00:27:16,009 --> 00:27:19,638 Whoever-- Wherever I play next, we'll see, somewhere crazy. 564 00:27:20,096 --> 00:27:22,015 Maybe a dream destination. 565 00:27:22,098 --> 00:27:24,559 I mean, it doesn't matter really. 566 00:27:24,643 --> 00:27:26,269 - That's true. - You know this, again... 567 00:27:26,353 --> 00:27:27,812 As long as you guys are there. Yeah. 568 00:27:27,896 --> 00:27:29,856 - ...you go, I travel. - Yeah. 569 00:27:29,939 --> 00:27:32,067 I told you, wherever you go in the world, I will be there. 570 00:27:32,150 --> 00:27:33,193 That's true. 571 00:27:33,276 --> 00:27:34,402 Hook or crook. 572 00:27:40,241 --> 00:27:43,745 As a mom, you're always excited to get the FaceTime call, 573 00:27:43,828 --> 00:27:45,789 but there was a rough patch there where I'd be like, 574 00:27:45,872 --> 00:27:47,457 "Oh, my God, she's calling again! 575 00:27:47,540 --> 00:27:48,917 "She's gonna be-- She's gonna be crying. 576 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,710 She's gonna want to come home. Call your father!" 577 00:27:50,794 --> 00:27:52,003 Like, can you talk to her 578 00:27:52,087 --> 00:27:53,880 - 'cause I can't hear it again. - I tell her, "Suck it up." 579 00:27:54,381 --> 00:27:57,008 Well, I can tell, definitely, like, haven't seen 580 00:27:57,092 --> 00:27:59,678 anyone love the game as much as her. 581 00:28:00,095 --> 00:28:03,807 Um, literally puts all of her dedication into it. 582 00:28:03,890 --> 00:28:05,850 Her p-- I can tell it's her passion. 583 00:28:05,934 --> 00:28:08,520 Um, been at, like, most of her games. 584 00:28:08,603 --> 00:28:10,021 Always, like, running around 585 00:28:10,105 --> 00:28:12,148 with whoever had younger siblings at her games. 586 00:28:12,232 --> 00:28:14,734 I'm happy to see her living out her dream right now 587 00:28:14,818 --> 00:28:15,985 going overseas. 588 00:28:16,069 --> 00:28:17,737 Rivals with a chance here 589 00:28:17,821 --> 00:28:19,030 to win it at the death. 590 00:28:19,114 --> 00:28:21,825 You can restart-- Sosa in the corner for the win! 591 00:28:21,908 --> 00:28:23,243 - He drains it! 592 00:28:23,326 --> 00:28:26,788 Édgar Sosa comes up with the enormous play! 593 00:28:26,871 --> 00:28:27,997 You can't get time back. 594 00:28:28,081 --> 00:28:32,210 And sometimes I feel... not that I feel a little guilty, 595 00:28:32,293 --> 00:28:33,461 but sometimes I do, 596 00:28:33,545 --> 00:28:36,881 because it's kind of like I'm leaving my-- my family, 597 00:28:36,965 --> 00:28:39,926 my loved ones every year to go do my job 598 00:28:40,009 --> 00:28:41,177 and do something I love. 599 00:28:41,261 --> 00:28:44,848 But, you know, the nine-and-a-half, ten months that I'm not with them, 600 00:28:44,931 --> 00:28:46,433 like that's-- I can't get that back. 601 00:28:46,516 --> 00:28:51,271 So it's kind of like... am I putting my dream before my family 602 00:28:51,354 --> 00:28:52,731 or my job before my family? 603 00:28:52,814 --> 00:28:54,315 So, sometimes I battle with that, 604 00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:56,443 um, but I have conversations with them 605 00:28:56,526 --> 00:28:58,570 and they let me-- they let me know that they know that 606 00:28:58,653 --> 00:29:01,781 I'm doing the right thing by following my dream and doing my job. 607 00:29:01,865 --> 00:29:04,451 So, I try to stay as close as I can with my family 608 00:29:04,534 --> 00:29:06,536 as far as FaceTime and text and stuff like that. 609 00:29:06,953 --> 00:29:09,831 The first time I heard the word "import" was in Germany. 610 00:29:11,958 --> 00:29:14,252 It was interesting to hear it. 611 00:29:14,335 --> 00:29:15,670 It's like, "What do you mean 'import'?" 612 00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:17,964 'Cause when people describe you to somebody else, 613 00:29:18,047 --> 00:29:20,175 they'll say, "This is like, this is our American import." 614 00:29:20,258 --> 00:29:22,093 I've started to understand what it means more 615 00:29:22,177 --> 00:29:23,928 'cause we're kind of imported goods. 616 00:29:24,012 --> 00:29:26,765 You know, um, these leagues have their-- their local players. 617 00:29:26,848 --> 00:29:28,641 There's really no limit on how many players 618 00:29:28,725 --> 00:29:30,602 in the country can play on that team. 619 00:29:30,685 --> 00:29:32,645 If they want somebody for a specific task 620 00:29:32,729 --> 00:29:34,397 or to really elevate the team, 621 00:29:34,481 --> 00:29:37,942 um, Americans are pretty much considered the gold standard still 622 00:29:38,026 --> 00:29:39,444 for basketball, I'd say. 623 00:29:39,527 --> 00:29:43,114 So they kinda import us to help elevate their team, 624 00:29:43,531 --> 00:29:45,825 bring us from another country, fly us out, 625 00:29:45,909 --> 00:29:48,077 put us on a plane, and then we get to work. 626 00:29:52,832 --> 00:29:54,584 A lot of NBA players can't play 627 00:29:54,667 --> 00:29:56,377 the style of play that they play in Europe. 628 00:29:56,461 --> 00:29:58,338 They go over there, and it's just not what they think about, 629 00:29:58,421 --> 00:29:59,422 what they thought it was. 630 00:29:59,506 --> 00:30:01,257 And it might not just be on the court. 631 00:30:01,341 --> 00:30:03,676 Like, 'cause you can't deny their talent on the court, 632 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,345 but can you survive off the court? 633 00:30:05,428 --> 00:30:07,889 Can you adjust to the culture, the lack of amenities 634 00:30:07,972 --> 00:30:09,933 that you're used to getting in the NBA? 635 00:30:10,016 --> 00:30:14,979 A lot of teams don't have five trainers, cryo machines, 636 00:30:15,063 --> 00:30:16,773 and game-ready machines. 637 00:30:16,856 --> 00:30:18,608 Sometimes, you have to tape your own ankles. 638 00:30:18,691 --> 00:30:20,527 Sometimes, you have to go to the grocery store 639 00:30:20,610 --> 00:30:22,695 and get frozen vegetables to ice your knees. 640 00:30:23,613 --> 00:30:25,240 Aaron Brooks was-- was a very good player. 641 00:30:25,323 --> 00:30:27,909 I believe he got Sixth Man of the Year, most improved, one of those awards. 642 00:30:27,992 --> 00:30:31,120 So he was a really good player in the NBA, and he went to China. 643 00:30:31,204 --> 00:30:34,249 He's a multimillionaire, and he's getting paid millions. 644 00:30:34,332 --> 00:30:37,043 But his apartment that he was staying in didn't even have a stove. 645 00:30:37,126 --> 00:30:39,879 He was using a hot plate to heat up his food. 646 00:30:39,963 --> 00:30:41,381 And so, these are just some of the examples 647 00:30:41,464 --> 00:30:43,258 that if you come play overseas, 648 00:30:43,341 --> 00:30:44,843 you have to love basketball. 649 00:30:45,343 --> 00:30:48,054 If you don't love basketball, you're going to be miserable 650 00:30:48,137 --> 00:30:50,390 because basketball will be the highlight of your day. 651 00:30:50,807 --> 00:30:52,433 Don't listen to the cap, bro. 652 00:30:53,268 --> 00:30:54,978 I'm a little superstitious. 653 00:30:55,270 --> 00:30:58,106 Um, as soon as I wake up on game day, I have to meditate. 654 00:30:58,189 --> 00:30:59,607 I used to just look it up on YouTube, 655 00:30:59,691 --> 00:31:01,317 now I have this app called Calm. 656 00:31:01,401 --> 00:31:03,862 Um, I saw LeBron James use it, so I was like, 657 00:31:03,945 --> 00:31:05,238 "Yeah, I might as well use it." 658 00:31:05,864 --> 00:31:08,783 Before games, I definitely need to listen to music. 659 00:31:08,867 --> 00:31:11,202 Like, I'm listening to, like, some calming music. 660 00:31:11,286 --> 00:31:13,496 I like older music. Like, I listen to Roy Ayers, 661 00:31:13,580 --> 00:31:15,999 like Everybody Loves the Sunshine or... 662 00:31:16,666 --> 00:31:18,418 Searching or Isley Brothers. 663 00:31:18,501 --> 00:31:20,587 I like Sade before the game. 664 00:31:20,670 --> 00:31:22,839 Just smoother, chill vibes. 665 00:31:22,922 --> 00:31:25,800 It helps me stay calm, not get too antsy before the game. 666 00:31:25,884 --> 00:31:28,303 Just vibing out, singing, listening to the tunes. 667 00:31:30,096 --> 00:31:33,808 It just kinda-- It gets me in, like, a... a serene head space. 668 00:31:33,892 --> 00:31:35,435 Like, I-- I feel good before the game. 669 00:31:35,518 --> 00:31:37,937 ♪ Will you keep on loving me ♪ 670 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,691 ♪ You give me, you're giving me the ♪ 671 00:31:41,774 --> 00:31:44,193 ♪ Sweetest taboo ♪ 672 00:31:44,694 --> 00:31:46,195 ♪ Too good for me ♪ 673 00:31:49,407 --> 00:31:51,868 - ♪ There's a quiet storm ♪ 674 00:31:51,951 --> 00:31:55,079 ♪ And it never felt like this before ♪ 675 00:31:55,163 --> 00:31:59,459 ♪ There's a quiet storm that is you ♪ 676 00:32:00,418 --> 00:32:05,173 ♪ There's a quiet storm and it never felt this hot before ♪ 677 00:32:05,256 --> 00:32:06,424 ♪ Giving me something... ♪ 678 00:32:06,507 --> 00:32:09,218 Nobody has us winning this game. 679 00:32:09,594 --> 00:32:13,056 Nobody outside of this gym or outside of this locker room 680 00:32:13,139 --> 00:32:14,223 thinks we can win this thing. 681 00:32:14,641 --> 00:32:17,226 Alright? The odds, the payrolls, whatever-- 682 00:32:17,310 --> 00:32:19,103 whatever metric you want to go to, 683 00:32:19,187 --> 00:32:20,313 they're the favorites. 684 00:32:29,197 --> 00:32:33,618 James Gist, um, he's a 6'9" power forward 685 00:32:33,701 --> 00:32:35,995 with a 40-plus vertical, um, leap. 686 00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:40,375 He went to University of Maryland, um, all ACC there. 687 00:32:40,458 --> 00:32:43,044 Uh, he was drafted in the second round by the San Antonio Spurs. 688 00:32:43,127 --> 00:32:45,046 And not only is he my best friend, 689 00:32:45,129 --> 00:32:47,548 but he's somebody that has had a great career, 690 00:32:47,632 --> 00:32:49,801 a legendary career internationally. 691 00:32:49,884 --> 00:32:52,011 Now that cast is off... 692 00:32:52,637 --> 00:32:55,264 Got a lot of respect for James and everything he's done. 693 00:32:55,348 --> 00:32:57,058 We've been knowing each other for a long time, 694 00:32:57,141 --> 00:32:58,601 and, um, we actually played against each other 695 00:32:58,685 --> 00:33:00,436 the first time in high school 696 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,272 when he was the biggest name in the area 697 00:33:03,648 --> 00:33:05,316 and was about to go to Maryland. 698 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,401 He's had a storied career. 699 00:33:06,484 --> 00:33:07,860 He's one of those guys that 700 00:33:08,361 --> 00:33:10,154 understood what he was great at 701 00:33:10,780 --> 00:33:13,116 and stayed in that role and rode that wave. 702 00:33:13,825 --> 00:33:15,493 Yeah, we stayed on the 35th floor. 703 00:33:15,576 --> 00:33:17,245 So we like... There's 40 floors in that building. 704 00:33:17,328 --> 00:33:18,538 We five from the top. 705 00:33:19,288 --> 00:33:21,624 It took me a while to kind of get outside that box 706 00:33:21,708 --> 00:33:23,501 of trying something new. 707 00:33:25,253 --> 00:33:27,964 But now, yeah, I like to go to the more, like, 708 00:33:28,047 --> 00:33:29,924 the... the hole-in-the-wall spots. 709 00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:32,343 So, you know, the international food spots, 710 00:33:32,427 --> 00:33:34,595 or you know, whatever this place, the state I'm in, 711 00:33:34,679 --> 00:33:36,139 the country I'm in right now, 712 00:33:36,222 --> 00:33:37,473 whatever they specialize in. 713 00:33:37,765 --> 00:33:39,600 Like, out here, they got the kebabs and stuff like that. 714 00:33:39,684 --> 00:33:41,853 I'm smashing them joints. Fire. 715 00:33:41,936 --> 00:33:44,439 Yo, I was standing outside, I seen them wild dogs. 716 00:33:44,522 --> 00:33:45,773 Oh, yeah. 717 00:33:45,857 --> 00:33:46,941 They out here, bro. 718 00:33:47,025 --> 00:33:50,236 They out here for sure. They out here for sure. 719 00:33:51,195 --> 00:33:52,697 That's the one thing about Boss, man, 720 00:33:52,780 --> 00:33:55,283 because he's, you know, I mean he a rottweiler, he, 721 00:33:55,366 --> 00:33:58,786 you know, he commands whatever. Like, he a alpha and stuff. 722 00:33:58,870 --> 00:34:00,830 At least we got a dog park in our apartment space, 723 00:34:00,913 --> 00:34:02,290 and I don't have to walk him on the streets 724 00:34:02,373 --> 00:34:03,541 'cause you walk him on the streets, 725 00:34:03,624 --> 00:34:05,752 you mess around and go across one of the corners where it's like 726 00:34:05,835 --> 00:34:07,253 - five, six dogs... - Oh. 727 00:34:07,336 --> 00:34:08,755 ...and you gonna have a problem. 728 00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:11,174 They definitely will gang up on you, man. 729 00:34:11,257 --> 00:34:13,301 And these dogs-- these stray dogs out here ain't small. 730 00:34:13,384 --> 00:34:14,594 You know, they big. 731 00:34:15,511 --> 00:34:17,555 Yeah, they got, you know them Kangals, 732 00:34:17,638 --> 00:34:19,974 they got them Turkish Kangals, their back is this high. 733 00:34:20,058 --> 00:34:21,809 They be on the street just walking around. 734 00:34:22,810 --> 00:34:24,187 And it be hella cats out here, too. 735 00:34:24,270 --> 00:34:25,313 That's the other crazy part. 736 00:34:25,396 --> 00:34:27,273 Like, I hate that 'cause I'm allergic to cats. 737 00:34:29,776 --> 00:34:32,028 Just think that joint was called a Dudu restaurant, bro. 738 00:34:34,697 --> 00:34:36,240 Doo doo? 739 00:34:40,578 --> 00:34:42,371 So I'd say we're probably 740 00:34:42,455 --> 00:34:44,040 one of the smaller budget teams in our league. 741 00:34:44,123 --> 00:34:46,292 Sutherland, very high respected team. 742 00:34:46,375 --> 00:34:50,129 They've won the NBL1 before already. So they have that championship pedigree. 743 00:34:50,213 --> 00:34:51,714 They have a good coach. Like, their coach is 744 00:34:51,798 --> 00:34:53,216 the assistant coach of the Sydney Kings, 745 00:34:53,299 --> 00:34:57,553 They have high level pro-professionals on their team. 746 00:34:57,637 --> 00:35:00,431 Um, in the standings, they're far above us. 747 00:35:00,515 --> 00:35:03,184 Um, I'm sure every other team is assuming 748 00:35:03,267 --> 00:35:04,977 they kind of just blow us out the water. 749 00:35:05,061 --> 00:35:08,523 So, we know like this-- this would be a huge win for us. 750 00:35:08,606 --> 00:35:10,191 Beating a team we're supposed to lose to 751 00:35:10,274 --> 00:35:13,528 and-- and it'll push us-- push us up in the standings pretty well. 752 00:35:13,611 --> 00:35:17,156 If we lose the game, we move even further from playoffs. 753 00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:19,909 So we'll probably go from ninth to tenth to, like, eleventh or twelfth 754 00:35:19,992 --> 00:35:22,036 because the-- the standings are so close right now. 755 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,788 The entire game was a close game. 756 00:35:23,871 --> 00:35:25,832 I'd say it was a battle the whole time. 757 00:35:25,915 --> 00:35:28,918 We knew they were-- they came to play, we came to play. 758 00:35:29,001 --> 00:35:31,587 Um, it was going back and forth. 759 00:35:31,671 --> 00:35:35,383 A lot of energy, some trash talk... 760 00:35:35,883 --> 00:35:38,010 ...but it's just a very back-and-forth game. 761 00:35:38,094 --> 00:35:41,097 A very close game. It was for sure a battle between both teams. 762 00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:43,057 They want to make sure they stay high in the standings. 763 00:35:43,141 --> 00:35:44,600 We want to make sure we get in the playoffs, 764 00:35:44,684 --> 00:35:46,269 kind of a do-or-die game for us. 765 00:35:46,686 --> 00:35:49,188 And the final score was 90 to 88. 766 00:35:49,647 --> 00:35:51,983 We won it in the last 0.5 seconds. 767 00:35:52,483 --> 00:35:54,402 So there was-- there was a real adjustment period 768 00:35:54,485 --> 00:35:56,946 that I had to-- to get once going overseas. 769 00:35:57,029 --> 00:35:59,740 I mean, it's-- it's less time. An NBA game is 48 minutes. 770 00:36:00,575 --> 00:36:03,578 International game is 40, you know, 10 minute quarters. 771 00:36:03,661 --> 00:36:05,830 You got 12 minute quarters in the NBA. Every possession in Europe, 772 00:36:05,913 --> 00:36:07,290 - you know is valuable. 773 00:36:07,373 --> 00:36:09,959 We were up one, we had the lead, and it was like last possession. 774 00:36:10,543 --> 00:36:11,544 Other team had it. 775 00:36:11,627 --> 00:36:13,504 Coach called a time out. He's like, "We're gonna foul." 776 00:36:13,921 --> 00:36:16,924 I'm like "Foul for what? Why we gonna foul?" 777 00:36:17,008 --> 00:36:20,928 He was like, "We want to foul, you know, this is a European strategy." 778 00:36:21,429 --> 00:36:24,348 "We gonna foul. They get two free throws, make or miss. 779 00:36:24,432 --> 00:36:26,809 At least we get the last shot. We get to hold our own destiny." 780 00:36:26,893 --> 00:36:28,311 They scored two free throws. 781 00:36:28,394 --> 00:36:30,938 We come down, we don't even get a shot. Lose the game. 782 00:36:31,022 --> 00:36:32,690 I remember calling my agent after that like, 783 00:36:32,773 --> 00:36:35,193 "Yo, you gotta get me outta here. This shit is crazy." 784 00:36:35,276 --> 00:36:36,777 I was like, "I can't... nah, I'm not doing this. 785 00:36:36,861 --> 00:36:38,446 "We're not just about to be losing games like this 786 00:36:38,529 --> 00:36:39,530 off of some stupid stuff." 787 00:36:40,031 --> 00:36:41,991 He's like, "Man, alright. You know, I'll figure it out. 788 00:36:42,074 --> 00:36:43,201 You know, give me some time." 789 00:36:43,284 --> 00:36:45,119 Three, four days go by, agent's like, 790 00:36:45,203 --> 00:36:47,121 "You know, I'm making some calls, some teams are interested, 791 00:36:47,205 --> 00:36:48,372 I let you know what I come up with." 792 00:36:48,456 --> 00:36:51,459 We got, uh, my-- my first actual EuroLeague game now. 793 00:36:51,542 --> 00:36:52,877 We play against Maccabi Tel Aviv, 794 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,962 and they come to Belgrade, they come to our arena. 795 00:36:55,046 --> 00:36:56,380 This is my first home game there. 796 00:36:57,048 --> 00:36:58,633 I go into the arena two hours before the game, 797 00:36:58,716 --> 00:37:00,885 I got my headphones on, you know, about to go out and shoot, 798 00:37:00,968 --> 00:37:02,178 get some warm-ups in, 799 00:37:02,261 --> 00:37:06,182 and the stands are full, like full. 800 00:37:06,265 --> 00:37:08,768 It was so loud in there I can't even hear the music in my headphones. 801 00:37:08,851 --> 00:37:12,605 So, now boom, we start the game, the crowd's going crazy. 802 00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:16,275 Maccabi beat us by 30. It was bad. 803 00:37:16,359 --> 00:37:18,361 We lost a big game in front of them by 30 points, 804 00:37:18,444 --> 00:37:19,695 you know, that's crazy. 805 00:37:19,779 --> 00:37:21,948 We go in the locker room, coach is cussing us out 806 00:37:22,031 --> 00:37:25,451 and he's like, "The fans want you to come back outside." 807 00:37:25,993 --> 00:37:28,579 I'm like, "For what?" So now everybody's like, alright, we get our stuff, 808 00:37:28,663 --> 00:37:31,249 you know, put the shoes back on, we're going back outside on the court. 809 00:37:31,332 --> 00:37:34,001 Nobody's left the gym. This is like 30 minutes after the game. 810 00:37:34,085 --> 00:37:35,878 I'm talking about, it's still a full arena. 811 00:37:35,962 --> 00:37:37,630 And the fans are chanting, they're cheering, 812 00:37:37,713 --> 00:37:39,465 and they just basically-- I'm asking the players, like, 813 00:37:39,548 --> 00:37:42,218 to translate what they're saying, and they're like, you know, "We love you. 814 00:37:42,301 --> 00:37:44,595 "We understand that you play with your heart, you play with everything. 815 00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:46,264 You know, we still gonna support you to the end." 816 00:37:46,347 --> 00:37:48,641 All that stuff. That's what they singing to us and everything like this. 817 00:37:48,724 --> 00:37:49,892 So everybody's clapping, you know. 818 00:37:49,976 --> 00:37:51,435 Mind you, we lost by 30, 819 00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:53,271 and everybody's like, it's like a party. 820 00:37:53,813 --> 00:37:55,648 And I'm like, "Damn, like this is crazy." 821 00:37:55,731 --> 00:37:58,276 And I ended up going out, went out to a club, 822 00:37:58,359 --> 00:38:01,237 and that was the first time I got to experience the Belgrade nightlife. 823 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,155 Once I saw the Belgrade nightlife, 824 00:38:03,572 --> 00:38:05,241 and after realizing the game that we just had 825 00:38:05,324 --> 00:38:06,492 and the fan base we had, 826 00:38:06,575 --> 00:38:08,703 I hit my agent immediately like, "Yo, I'm good. 827 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,329 I don't gotta leave." 828 00:38:10,413 --> 00:38:11,831 I said, "I'll figure this out. 829 00:38:11,914 --> 00:38:13,958 Nah, I'll figure this out. This is a cool situation." 830 00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:22,466 One of the best parts about playing overseas basketball 831 00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:24,927 is giving your family an opportunity to see things 832 00:38:25,011 --> 00:38:26,595 that they probably wouldn't see. 833 00:38:26,679 --> 00:38:29,307 So like my kids, like, they went to school in Russia. 834 00:38:29,390 --> 00:38:30,641 My kids go to school in Italy. 835 00:38:30,725 --> 00:38:33,227 Like, they have friends from all different cultures, 836 00:38:33,311 --> 00:38:35,271 all different races, all different languages. 837 00:38:35,354 --> 00:38:37,940 Like, they've got a chance to, like, experience so many different things. 838 00:38:38,024 --> 00:38:41,110 Like, you know, I-- Up until I was 21, 22 years old, 839 00:38:41,193 --> 00:38:43,279 I never even rode an airplane, never even left the East Coast 840 00:38:43,362 --> 00:38:45,323 except if it wasn't for, like, college basketball. 841 00:38:45,406 --> 00:38:47,116 You know, my daughter is six years old, 842 00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:49,577 and she's been to all over the world. 843 00:38:53,414 --> 00:38:55,875 My son's first language is Hebrew, you know. 844 00:38:55,958 --> 00:38:59,837 So, just being able to experience all the different things 845 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,131 that they've been able to experience, I think is only gonna work 846 00:39:02,214 --> 00:39:04,091 in a positive for them. 847 00:39:06,510 --> 00:39:07,762 So, I got three kids. 848 00:39:07,845 --> 00:39:10,014 ...the floor. Put those-- Put the cars back. 849 00:39:10,723 --> 00:39:11,891 Come on, man. 850 00:39:13,768 --> 00:39:15,728 My oldest is my daughter Maliyah. 851 00:39:17,188 --> 00:39:18,189 Hi. 852 00:39:18,272 --> 00:39:20,066 These boys getting big, man. 853 00:39:20,149 --> 00:39:22,109 She's been traveling with me... 854 00:39:23,652 --> 00:39:26,405 a good portion of my career, a good portion of my career. 855 00:39:26,489 --> 00:39:28,991 She's been through Greece, she's traveled through Serbia, 856 00:39:29,075 --> 00:39:31,702 she traveled to France, to Istanbul. 857 00:39:31,786 --> 00:39:34,288 She came out to Germany with me. She's a-- she's a traveler. 858 00:39:34,372 --> 00:39:36,874 She got more stamps in her passport than a lot of regular people, you know. 859 00:39:36,957 --> 00:39:38,292 She enjoys traveling the world, you know. 860 00:39:38,376 --> 00:39:40,044 She gets to see-- She knows that, you know, 861 00:39:40,127 --> 00:39:41,420 the things that she's getting to experience, 862 00:39:41,504 --> 00:39:43,005 not a lot of people get to experience that. 863 00:39:43,089 --> 00:39:45,091 Um, so she's enjoying it in that aspect. 864 00:39:56,185 --> 00:39:57,561 Okay, okay. Slow down. 865 00:39:57,645 --> 00:39:59,146 Slow down. 866 00:39:59,230 --> 00:40:01,148 You ready for lunch? 867 00:40:01,232 --> 00:40:03,317 Yeah, we'll sit over here, we'll sit over here. Um... 868 00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:04,902 Bash, come sit down. 869 00:40:04,985 --> 00:40:07,029 Okay, you go eat and then you gonna go go play? 870 00:40:08,697 --> 00:40:10,241 I got you. 871 00:40:12,618 --> 00:40:16,622 My first fear I got is when I played in Iran in 2016, 872 00:40:16,705 --> 00:40:18,749 I went out there, and I was just scared, 873 00:40:18,833 --> 00:40:21,335 like, you know, 'cause you see all these things in the news. 874 00:40:21,419 --> 00:40:23,879 You see the bombings and all-- and all that stuff. 875 00:40:23,963 --> 00:40:26,257 And when you get there, you kind of feel like 876 00:40:26,340 --> 00:40:28,467 that's what their everyday life is about. 877 00:40:28,551 --> 00:40:29,844 And it-- and it's really not. 878 00:40:29,927 --> 00:40:31,637 Like, Middle Eastern people for me 879 00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:34,849 have been some of the nicest, most sensitive people 880 00:40:34,932 --> 00:40:37,518 - that I've met, you know, in my life. 881 00:40:40,938 --> 00:40:42,857 You could find yourself in a really good situation. 882 00:40:42,940 --> 00:40:44,358 You could find yourself in a great country. 883 00:40:44,442 --> 00:40:45,985 - You could find yourself 884 00:40:46,068 --> 00:40:47,486 being an icon of that country. 885 00:40:47,570 --> 00:40:48,779 They treat you like family. 886 00:40:51,866 --> 00:40:55,077 Oh, no wind. Nothing but net. 887 00:41:00,332 --> 00:41:02,126 We gotta stay safe, man. 888 00:41:02,626 --> 00:41:06,297 Another day y'all hear the sirens. Here we go. 889 00:41:19,643 --> 00:41:20,686 My name's Jared Armstrong. 890 00:41:20,769 --> 00:41:22,438 I'm a Jewish American professional basketball player 891 00:41:22,521 --> 00:41:23,689 that plays in Israel. 892 00:41:23,772 --> 00:41:26,358 I got a offer to play for Hapoel Haifa 893 00:41:26,442 --> 00:41:27,943 in the Winners League in Israel. 894 00:41:30,529 --> 00:41:32,823 - I got a call, 6:30 that morning... 895 00:41:32,907 --> 00:41:34,783 ...rockets and missiles with the attack in Israel. 896 00:41:34,867 --> 00:41:37,328 That was from my coach. And I'm just like, "Come on, Coach. 897 00:41:37,411 --> 00:41:38,913 It's 6:30 in the morning." So I didn't really, 898 00:41:38,996 --> 00:41:41,248 you know, take the call as seriously as I should have. 899 00:41:41,332 --> 00:41:44,668 Dozens of Hamas terrorists infiltrating into Israel this morning 900 00:41:44,752 --> 00:41:46,128 taking citizens hostage, 901 00:41:46,212 --> 00:41:48,088 roaming around the streets of Israeli towns 902 00:41:48,172 --> 00:41:49,340 shooting all over. 903 00:41:49,423 --> 00:41:51,425 - There are still, as we speak, shootouts 904 00:41:51,509 --> 00:41:54,470 between security forces and terrorists in Israeli territory. 905 00:41:54,553 --> 00:41:57,264 And around 7:30, I started hearing booms. 906 00:41:58,682 --> 00:41:59,725 So, I'm, like, "Oh, shit." 907 00:42:01,477 --> 00:42:03,312 And then the next boom that I got, 908 00:42:03,395 --> 00:42:05,231 it almost was like a hundred feet from my apartment. 909 00:42:05,314 --> 00:42:07,149 So I'm like, "Oh, shit, I gotta get outta here." 910 00:42:07,233 --> 00:42:10,444 So I remember going downstairs to my teammate's place, 911 00:42:10,528 --> 00:42:13,155 and I knocked on his door and he was asleep. 912 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,865 I'm like, "Yo, wake up. What the fuck you doing? 913 00:42:14,949 --> 00:42:16,575 It's bombs and rockets outside." 914 00:42:18,285 --> 00:42:20,454 I had a friend from Chicago 915 00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:22,665 that called me and he like, "Yo, man, that shit look crazy. 916 00:42:22,748 --> 00:42:24,708 What y'all doing? Like, come to Michael spot." 917 00:42:24,792 --> 00:42:26,794 So we drive about 45 minutes, 918 00:42:26,877 --> 00:42:28,921 into the city called Ramat HaSharon. 919 00:42:29,004 --> 00:42:30,881 It's about 20 minutes from Tel Aviv. 920 00:42:30,965 --> 00:42:33,509 And we just crashed at his place, you know, for the time being 921 00:42:33,592 --> 00:42:35,094 until we figured out our next move. 922 00:42:35,177 --> 00:42:36,637 I've had a few moments... 923 00:42:37,805 --> 00:42:39,056 I don't want to say close calls, 924 00:42:39,139 --> 00:42:41,183 but like, you know, where you kinda gotta understand 925 00:42:41,267 --> 00:42:42,643 that you're not in America. 926 00:42:42,726 --> 00:42:44,311 I remember we had a game when I played in Greece. 927 00:42:44,395 --> 00:42:47,356 We had a game in Israel, Tel Aviv, Israel, and during that time, 928 00:42:47,439 --> 00:42:49,567 uh, you know, the Gaza strip is 929 00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:52,987 maybe an hour away from Tel Aviv. 930 00:42:53,571 --> 00:42:56,365 They lighting off missiles over there, you know, left and right. 931 00:42:56,448 --> 00:42:57,866 You can see 'em in the sky. 932 00:42:57,950 --> 00:43:00,035 You know, we got a game that night. We got a game that night. 933 00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:03,414 And they're saying that, you know, if-- if the alarm goes off 934 00:43:03,914 --> 00:43:05,708 because there's a missile coming in, you know, 935 00:43:05,791 --> 00:43:08,377 everybody has to go underneath the floor, which is... 936 00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:11,672 they have, like, a set bunker under the floor 937 00:43:11,755 --> 00:43:13,090 of where the arena is. 938 00:43:13,173 --> 00:43:16,176 You know, the referees, officials, game players, 939 00:43:16,677 --> 00:43:17,803 everybody goes under the floor. 940 00:43:17,886 --> 00:43:19,096 And I'm like, "What about the fans?" 941 00:43:19,179 --> 00:43:20,556 They're like, "You know, the fans, 942 00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:21,724 they'll figure it out." 943 00:43:21,807 --> 00:43:23,559 - "That's their everyday life." 944 00:43:23,642 --> 00:43:25,603 So I'm sitting here like, "Yo, there's a whole war going on, 945 00:43:25,686 --> 00:43:28,022 "you know, 50 miles away 946 00:43:28,647 --> 00:43:30,691 and we still got a basketball game to play." 947 00:43:33,402 --> 00:43:35,654 I've never actually been in-- in Iraq. 948 00:43:35,738 --> 00:43:39,366 And when I saw the contract, I was a bit hesitant. 949 00:43:39,450 --> 00:43:40,784 I didn't know. 950 00:43:40,868 --> 00:43:42,411 Uh, but then I said, you know, 951 00:43:42,494 --> 00:43:44,747 I've been so many other places in the world, 952 00:43:44,830 --> 00:43:46,123 I know what I'm there to do. 953 00:43:46,206 --> 00:43:50,169 I'm there to-- to do my job and pretty much stay-- stay out the way. 954 00:43:50,252 --> 00:43:53,881 So I was like, as long as I stick to just playing basketball 955 00:43:53,964 --> 00:43:57,635 and doing what I do and in my free time just being, 956 00:43:57,718 --> 00:44:00,596 you know, at home, then-- then I should be fine. 957 00:44:05,392 --> 00:44:07,061 Oh, I know, look-it. 958 00:44:09,063 --> 00:44:13,067 Personally, I didn't do, um, a lot of research on Iraq 959 00:44:13,150 --> 00:44:15,527 as a-- as a-- as a country as a whole. 960 00:44:15,611 --> 00:44:18,572 I did more research on the team I was going to play for 961 00:44:18,656 --> 00:44:20,616 and my teammates and coaches like that. 962 00:44:20,699 --> 00:44:22,076 What's up? 963 00:44:24,787 --> 00:44:26,497 - Hey, you good? - How are you? 964 00:44:35,464 --> 00:44:37,716 I had this pre-judgment of what I thought 965 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,844 the people out there were like or what it was going to be, and then, uh-- 966 00:44:40,928 --> 00:44:42,012 What was that? 967 00:44:42,096 --> 00:44:45,265 That was just that, uh, like, that there's no regard for-- 968 00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:46,975 for-- for humans out there. 969 00:44:47,059 --> 00:44:52,231 Like, you know, um, they have this hatred towards Americans. 970 00:44:52,314 --> 00:44:55,359 And... That's what I thought before I got there. 971 00:44:55,442 --> 00:44:58,779 And when-- when I-- when I got there, I noticed that it wasn't like that. 972 00:45:01,740 --> 00:45:03,325 You definitely should do research 973 00:45:03,409 --> 00:45:05,369 on wherever you're gonna play anywhere in the world 974 00:45:05,452 --> 00:45:07,621 because, you know, you might go somewhere 975 00:45:07,705 --> 00:45:10,749 thinking that what you're doing is normal or it's okay 976 00:45:10,833 --> 00:45:14,002 and it might not be to the-- to the people of those countries. 977 00:45:15,045 --> 00:45:16,130 Yo. 978 00:45:20,050 --> 00:45:21,885 Personally, my team went kind of AWOL. 979 00:45:21,969 --> 00:45:23,929 Like, other-- outside of my coach, 980 00:45:24,012 --> 00:45:25,889 none of us heard from the general manager. 981 00:45:25,973 --> 00:45:27,599 None of us heard from the president. 982 00:45:27,683 --> 00:45:29,393 Everybody was just kind of on they own. 983 00:45:29,476 --> 00:45:31,103 I mean, I understood the situation, 984 00:45:31,186 --> 00:45:34,481 but it kind of was fucked up 'cause it left us in a tricky situation. 985 00:45:34,565 --> 00:45:37,401 You know, we 5,000 miles away from home, 986 00:45:37,484 --> 00:45:39,862 and you know, we never been in this situation before. 987 00:45:39,945 --> 00:45:42,740 We ended up finding out our GM, he had lost family members, 988 00:45:42,823 --> 00:45:43,866 you know, in the war. 989 00:45:43,949 --> 00:45:45,409 And I understood it was a, you know, 990 00:45:45,492 --> 00:45:46,910 un-circumstantial situation. 991 00:45:46,994 --> 00:45:49,079 But for us, it was kind of just fucked up. 992 00:46:09,767 --> 00:46:11,685 When you're overseas, you have a lot of people 993 00:46:11,769 --> 00:46:13,771 that are just die-hard fans 994 00:46:13,854 --> 00:46:16,356 and will come to every-- every single game. 995 00:46:18,108 --> 00:46:20,194 Be there screaming at the top of their lungs 996 00:46:20,277 --> 00:46:22,029 and-- and cheering for you. 997 00:46:41,089 --> 00:46:43,091 When I first signed my contract, 998 00:46:43,175 --> 00:46:45,803 and let's say the-- the club would post like, 999 00:46:45,886 --> 00:46:48,055 "Welcome, Lindsey" or whatever to the team, 1000 00:46:48,138 --> 00:46:50,933 you'll start getting DMs and things like that on Instagram. 1001 00:46:51,016 --> 00:46:52,935 Like, "Welcome to wherever you're coming. 1002 00:46:53,018 --> 00:46:54,978 We're so excited to have you." And things like that. 1003 00:46:55,062 --> 00:46:58,273 There's just people that are really invested in the-- in the teams 1004 00:46:58,357 --> 00:47:00,984 because sometimes if you're in a small city, that's all they have. 1005 00:47:01,068 --> 00:47:03,320 You know, that's-- that's what really is 1006 00:47:03,403 --> 00:47:05,280 at the center of the-- of the city. 1007 00:47:05,364 --> 00:47:06,949 And people are invested in that. 1008 00:47:07,032 --> 00:47:09,409 And that's something that they look forward to every week 1009 00:47:09,493 --> 00:47:10,577 to go to a game. 1010 00:47:15,707 --> 00:47:18,752 The intimacy between you and the fans becomes more 1011 00:47:18,836 --> 00:47:20,921 because they build a relationship with you. 1012 00:47:21,004 --> 00:47:24,383 So they go crazy, they passionate, they jumping up and down. 1013 00:47:24,466 --> 00:47:26,844 Their families have the same history 1014 00:47:26,927 --> 00:47:29,054 in terms of the teams that they're rooting on. 1015 00:47:29,137 --> 00:47:30,889 So, you get a different kind of appreciation. 1016 00:47:30,973 --> 00:47:33,517 The NBA is entertainment, man, it's a family environment. 1017 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,435 You just going to have a good time. 1018 00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:36,728 You know, it's like a party. 1019 00:47:40,607 --> 00:47:42,568 That shit is like a lifestyle. 1020 00:47:55,581 --> 00:47:58,166 I got stories for days when it comes to how rowdy 1021 00:47:58,250 --> 00:48:00,294 and hostile fans can get when you're on the road. 1022 00:48:03,547 --> 00:48:05,465 They love basketball more than we do. 1023 00:48:06,383 --> 00:48:09,428 They just can't play it. You know? So they want you to play it for 'em. 1024 00:48:09,511 --> 00:48:11,138 They want you to play it with the same emotion, 1025 00:48:11,221 --> 00:48:13,140 the same passion, the same everything that they feel for it. 1026 00:48:13,223 --> 00:48:14,474 They want that. 1027 00:48:17,269 --> 00:48:19,605 It's a game to us. To them, it's life. 1028 00:48:20,147 --> 00:48:22,941 To them, it's life. And in some instances, I've been in the arenas that, yeah, 1029 00:48:23,025 --> 00:48:24,568 you really had to worry about your well-being. 1030 00:48:24,651 --> 00:48:26,528 You had-- had to run off the floor 1031 00:48:26,945 --> 00:48:28,822 to get to the locker room before the fans got to us. 1032 00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:31,909 I had to wait in the locker room for two, three hours 1033 00:48:31,992 --> 00:48:35,746 so that they can evacuate the gym and the parking lot so we can leave. 1034 00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:37,289 I've been on buses where we got... 1035 00:48:38,540 --> 00:48:41,168 police escorts on both sides, you know, this high, 1036 00:48:41,251 --> 00:48:43,086 so that nobody can throw anything in the bus 1037 00:48:43,170 --> 00:48:44,254 or anything like that, you know? 1038 00:48:44,338 --> 00:48:45,589 And it's a sport to us, to them... 1039 00:48:45,672 --> 00:48:47,424 they-- it's more than just a sport. 1040 00:48:54,806 --> 00:48:56,934 Go to one of them Greek games, you know what I'm saying? 1041 00:48:57,017 --> 00:48:58,810 Go to the Panathinaikos and Olympiacos game. 1042 00:48:58,894 --> 00:49:01,313 That's like a real, true experience. 1043 00:49:01,396 --> 00:49:04,066 Like, you know. Here, it's more of an entertainment, 1044 00:49:04,149 --> 00:49:05,609 which is cool, both sides are cool, 1045 00:49:05,692 --> 00:49:08,320 but it's more of an entertainment, it's more of a party. 1046 00:49:08,403 --> 00:49:10,906 You got the kiss cam, you got this, you got this going on, you got-- 1047 00:49:10,989 --> 00:49:13,617 They shooting things in the air. They got all type of stuff. 1048 00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:16,620 Overseas, it's just straight up chants. 1049 00:49:18,622 --> 00:49:20,457 You got the fire going, they got all types. 1050 00:49:20,540 --> 00:49:21,959 They booing every team, you know. 1051 00:49:22,042 --> 00:49:24,378 So it's a whole different... it's two totally different vibes, 1052 00:49:24,461 --> 00:49:26,254 two totally different energies. 1053 00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:32,844 Its Olympiacos versus Panathinaikos, they're playing in the Greek Cup. 1054 00:49:32,928 --> 00:49:36,139 So, you have on one end zone is the Olympiacos fans. 1055 00:49:37,766 --> 00:49:39,893 The other side of the basket is Panathinaikos fans. 1056 00:49:41,478 --> 00:49:43,480 And in between are police officers. 1057 00:49:43,563 --> 00:49:46,316 Like not just, like, one or two. I'm talking about the whole police force. 1058 00:49:47,567 --> 00:49:49,569 So I'm just out there casually not paying attention, 1059 00:49:49,653 --> 00:49:52,781 trying to like-- you know, trying to like, you know, be in the game and be focused. 1060 00:49:52,864 --> 00:49:54,241 So all my teammates leave. 1061 00:49:54,449 --> 00:49:55,909 I don't notice they leave, you know, 1062 00:49:55,993 --> 00:49:58,412 I'm just out there shooting and doing my normal routine. 1063 00:49:58,495 --> 00:50:00,539 So, I'm on the free throw line, shooting, 1064 00:50:00,622 --> 00:50:02,499 all of sudden something goes, "pew, boom!" 1065 00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:06,586 A flare knocks me in the head, knocks me down. 1066 00:50:06,670 --> 00:50:08,380 My pants is on fire. 1067 00:50:08,463 --> 00:50:10,132 So I'm over here brushing my pants up. 1068 00:50:10,215 --> 00:50:12,175 Two security guards come take me in. 1069 00:50:12,259 --> 00:50:14,261 I'm, you know, looked like I just got knocked in the head, 1070 00:50:14,344 --> 00:50:16,054 I'm half conscious or whatever. 1071 00:50:16,138 --> 00:50:18,849 My teammates, they just knock it off like nothing happened. 1072 00:50:18,932 --> 00:50:20,726 They're like, "Ah, Malaka, that's-- that's nothing. 1073 00:50:20,809 --> 00:50:22,436 That just-- that's just normal basketball." 1074 00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:24,855 The coach looks at me, keeps drawing on the board. 1075 00:50:24,938 --> 00:50:27,274 I'm thinking in my head, I was like, "Yo, I just almost lost my life, 1076 00:50:27,357 --> 00:50:28,984 "and we just gonna continue to play the basketball game 1077 00:50:29,067 --> 00:50:31,028 like... like nothing is happening." 1078 00:50:36,992 --> 00:50:38,952 When somebody thinks about Kyle Hines, 1079 00:50:39,036 --> 00:50:42,706 they need to think about somebody that has persevered, 1080 00:50:42,789 --> 00:50:46,209 that has known how to be a consummate professional, right? 1081 00:50:46,293 --> 00:50:48,545 He knows how to play the game inside the game, 1082 00:50:48,628 --> 00:50:49,921 being a good teammate, 1083 00:50:50,005 --> 00:50:53,133 sacrificing individual statistics for team goals. 1084 00:50:53,216 --> 00:50:55,552 And he's been rewarded handsomely, you know, 1085 00:50:55,635 --> 00:50:58,180 through opportunities and intangibly 1086 00:50:58,263 --> 00:51:02,142 through-- through achievements and awards for that sacrifice. 1087 00:51:02,225 --> 00:51:04,436 And he's somebody that every young player 1088 00:51:04,519 --> 00:51:07,939 that's considering playing basketball overseas should study. 1089 00:51:08,023 --> 00:51:10,108 This, this right here carries a lot of weight. 1090 00:51:10,192 --> 00:51:11,777 It carries a lot of pressure when you wear it, 1091 00:51:11,860 --> 00:51:13,278 but it's something that you want, 1092 00:51:13,361 --> 00:51:14,613 um, you know, all players want it. 1093 00:51:15,614 --> 00:51:18,366 The first American to win four EuroLeague titles, 1094 00:51:18,450 --> 00:51:20,744 Hines' place in history is already secure. 1095 00:51:25,415 --> 00:51:26,666 What's a misconception 1096 00:51:26,750 --> 00:51:28,835 that people have about overseas basketball? 1097 00:51:29,419 --> 00:51:31,797 A misconception that they have is that, 1098 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,591 that there's bad players and there's bad basketball. 1099 00:51:34,674 --> 00:51:36,426 That's just on the basketball standpoint. 1100 00:51:36,510 --> 00:51:38,804 I feel like people who don't follow it, 1101 00:51:38,887 --> 00:51:41,264 don't know the talent that's out there. 1102 00:51:41,348 --> 00:51:43,558 And I would say another misconception 1103 00:51:43,642 --> 00:51:45,644 is outside of basketball, you know, 1104 00:51:45,727 --> 00:51:47,395 because maybe people think 1105 00:51:47,479 --> 00:51:49,022 just because you're a basketball player, 1106 00:51:49,106 --> 00:51:51,775 you're getting it easy or you don't have it as hard 1107 00:51:51,858 --> 00:51:53,693 as-- as someone who works nine to five. 1108 00:51:53,777 --> 00:51:55,654 And that's totally false because, you know, 1109 00:51:55,737 --> 00:51:58,406 for a lot of us, we have to move to-- to countries 1110 00:51:58,490 --> 00:51:59,491 we've never been to, 1111 00:51:59,574 --> 00:52:02,410 adapt to cultures that we've never been a part of. 1112 00:52:02,494 --> 00:52:05,622 Maybe something that's done in our country as a norm 1113 00:52:05,705 --> 00:52:07,207 is not a norm in another country. 1114 00:52:07,290 --> 00:52:09,709 So, that's stuff that you definitely have to adjust to. 1115 00:52:10,210 --> 00:52:12,337 I don't know if many people seen The Godfather, 1116 00:52:12,420 --> 00:52:13,797 but the town where, you know, Michael, 1117 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,299 when he's-- when he's leaving and he's kind of on exile, 1118 00:52:16,383 --> 00:52:18,385 - that's what Veroli looked like. 1119 00:52:18,468 --> 00:52:19,845 Literally, people were walking goats 1120 00:52:19,928 --> 00:52:22,597 - and chickens and horses and-- 1121 00:52:22,681 --> 00:52:24,808 And people were-- you know, when they wanted to do laundry, 1122 00:52:24,891 --> 00:52:27,561 they would all go down to, like, the big watering hole, 1123 00:52:27,644 --> 00:52:29,855 and they're filling up their water to take it back to their house. 1124 00:52:29,938 --> 00:52:31,398 Like, that's literally what it was. 1125 00:52:31,481 --> 00:52:34,067 It was like, you know, coming from South Jersey, Philadelphia, 1126 00:52:34,151 --> 00:52:35,652 to kind of going back into time. 1127 00:52:35,735 --> 00:52:38,905 So, for that first, like, month, I was homesick. 1128 00:52:38,989 --> 00:52:41,658 And then I go to, you know, Russia, Moscow, where it's like, 1129 00:52:41,741 --> 00:52:43,702 you don't see the sun for 10 months. 1130 00:52:43,785 --> 00:52:45,370 Like, you get there, nobody's talking to you 1131 00:52:45,453 --> 00:52:47,038 'cause, you know, everybody's very, you know, 1132 00:52:47,122 --> 00:52:48,498 in Russia, everybody's very stoic. 1133 00:52:48,582 --> 00:52:49,875 I was like, "Man, what... 1134 00:52:49,958 --> 00:52:51,710 What decisions did I make? Why did I come here?" 1135 00:52:51,793 --> 00:52:53,962 But then, I kind of flipped my mentality, 1136 00:52:54,045 --> 00:52:55,422 and I started realizing, I was like, 1137 00:52:55,505 --> 00:52:57,007 "Man, this city is beautiful." 1138 00:52:57,090 --> 00:52:59,426 Like, the Red Square is one of the most, you know, 1139 00:53:00,468 --> 00:53:02,804 beautiful things that you can ever see in life. 1140 00:53:02,888 --> 00:53:04,639 Like, you know, the way that the architecture, 1141 00:53:04,723 --> 00:53:06,474 the different things that they have there in Russia. 1142 00:53:06,558 --> 00:53:09,311 Like, the-- the culture, the history, 1143 00:53:09,394 --> 00:53:10,395 the subway. 1144 00:53:10,478 --> 00:53:13,064 Every subway station is a-- is a museum. 1145 00:53:13,732 --> 00:53:15,984 You go there, and they have these beautiful tapestries, 1146 00:53:16,067 --> 00:53:17,611 this beautiful artwork. 1147 00:53:19,863 --> 00:53:22,574 The players who have had the most success overseas 1148 00:53:22,657 --> 00:53:24,826 are the players that really embrace the culture 1149 00:53:24,910 --> 00:53:27,287 and really embrace the lifestyle and really embrace what it is. 1150 00:53:29,789 --> 00:53:32,626 I'm on a team, I think-- They quit. No... 1151 00:53:32,709 --> 00:53:34,628 These are my brothers, right? 1152 00:53:34,711 --> 00:53:38,423 This is my younger brother, Abbas. We call him Kobe. 1153 00:53:38,506 --> 00:53:39,633 That's Kobe. 1154 00:53:39,841 --> 00:53:41,259 Jassim, say hello to the camera. 1155 00:53:41,343 --> 00:53:44,179 - Yes! My brother. - This is Nico, the captain. 1156 00:53:44,262 --> 00:53:45,722 - Hold on, don't go nowhere. - Okay. 1157 00:53:46,056 --> 00:53:47,557 This is Latif. Young Latif. 1158 00:53:48,767 --> 00:53:50,477 Don't be a killer... 1159 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,354 This is Young Turkey right here, this is the family. 1160 00:53:54,898 --> 00:53:56,566 This is the masked man right there. 1161 00:53:59,653 --> 00:54:01,154 - What's up? - Hey! 1162 00:54:03,281 --> 00:54:05,742 - This is Khalid, my brother. - What's up, fam? 1163 00:54:06,451 --> 00:54:08,787 And this is Wes. My boy and my brother. 1164 00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:10,997 This is the best trainer in the Middle East. 1165 00:54:12,666 --> 00:54:14,167 These are my brothers. That's my family, man. 1166 00:54:14,251 --> 00:54:17,462 These are my family... 1167 00:54:21,091 --> 00:54:23,718 As Americans, when we go over to these places 1168 00:54:23,802 --> 00:54:25,345 and go over to these countries 1169 00:54:25,428 --> 00:54:27,681 and start learning these people's customs and cultures, 1170 00:54:27,764 --> 00:54:31,559 you have to be aware of what's offensive and what's not offensive, 1171 00:54:32,018 --> 00:54:35,480 and what can force someone to dislike you or try to harm you 1172 00:54:35,563 --> 00:54:37,732 or try to push you and jam you up, you know? 1173 00:54:37,816 --> 00:54:39,776 'Cause sometimes, we can dap each other up. 1174 00:54:39,859 --> 00:54:41,778 If I dap you up, it's a cultural thing 1175 00:54:41,861 --> 00:54:43,321 on how we shake hands. 1176 00:54:43,405 --> 00:54:45,740 It's a cultural thing on how people shake 1177 00:54:45,824 --> 00:54:47,784 or-- or greet each other in Italy, 1178 00:54:47,867 --> 00:54:49,327 they kiss on both sides of the cheek. 1179 00:54:49,411 --> 00:54:50,996 Now, if you're not familiar with that, 1180 00:54:51,329 --> 00:54:52,497 that shit can throw you off. 1181 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,210 It's a cultural thing, you go to Turkey, 1182 00:54:57,294 --> 00:54:59,629 that if you with your son and you with your child, 1183 00:54:59,713 --> 00:55:02,007 someone will walk past, say "inshallah," and take your baby 1184 00:55:02,090 --> 00:55:04,801 and just walk off and just be-- and hold them, 1185 00:55:04,884 --> 00:55:06,886 and-and-and just walk around like it's nothing. 1186 00:55:06,970 --> 00:55:08,847 They'll take him to sit with-- at their table with them 1187 00:55:08,930 --> 00:55:10,473 and-- and feed them food. 1188 00:55:10,557 --> 00:55:12,350 Now, for us, that shit is wild. 1189 00:55:12,434 --> 00:55:13,852 But for them, that's a normal 1190 00:55:13,935 --> 00:55:15,937 because of their appreciation for children. 1191 00:55:16,021 --> 00:55:19,065 So with-- with-- The same thing goes with basketball. 1192 00:55:19,149 --> 00:55:21,651 You have to understand the natural customs 1193 00:55:21,735 --> 00:55:24,946 and the cultures of whatever country 1194 00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:26,698 or whatever gym you going into. 1195 00:55:26,781 --> 00:55:28,658 You know, you can't-- even if you here on the street, 1196 00:55:28,742 --> 00:55:30,201 you can't just walk up in somebody's house 1197 00:55:30,285 --> 00:55:33,496 and go in they refrigerator and just act like it's yours. 1198 00:55:33,580 --> 00:55:36,499 Nah, you gotta ask, "Can... May I do... What can I do? Da, da, da." 1199 00:55:36,583 --> 00:55:39,044 It's a certain type of courtesy and, um... 1200 00:55:39,461 --> 00:55:40,628 and rules that go along with it. 1201 00:55:40,712 --> 00:55:43,214 So, my first year, we was playing in Varese, 1202 00:55:43,298 --> 00:55:47,052 a team, uh, out in Italy, and I hit a game winner. 1203 00:55:47,135 --> 00:55:48,303 We beating them all-- all game. 1204 00:55:48,386 --> 00:55:51,723 They make a run, they, uh, make a shot, I get the ball, 1205 00:55:51,806 --> 00:55:54,059 eight seconds left, I go down, I hit a pull up 1206 00:55:54,142 --> 00:55:55,769 and I take my jersey off. 1207 00:55:55,852 --> 00:55:57,437 You know, in college, you know the thing you do, 1208 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,857 you pop your jersey, you show yourself to the-- to the stands. 1209 00:56:00,940 --> 00:56:04,569 So, I took my jersey off and I pointed my jersey at the opposing-- 1210 00:56:04,652 --> 00:56:06,529 the home team's fans, we was on the road. 1211 00:56:07,530 --> 00:56:08,948 And I just see a mob 1212 00:56:09,032 --> 00:56:11,659 of people coming towards me like they wanted to kill me. 1213 00:56:11,743 --> 00:56:14,120 Like, I had to be escorted out by police that day. 1214 00:56:14,204 --> 00:56:15,997 Like, I had to be brought out 1215 00:56:16,081 --> 00:56:18,291 and put onto the bus just myself. 1216 00:56:18,375 --> 00:56:20,710 And the whole time, I'm like, "Man, what did I do that's so bad?" 1217 00:56:20,794 --> 00:56:23,046 But it's just like, that's something you don't do over there. 1218 00:56:23,129 --> 00:56:25,507 There've been a lot of times where I've gone to different countries, 1219 00:56:25,590 --> 00:56:28,593 whether it's travel for vacation or for playing, 1220 00:56:28,676 --> 00:56:30,762 where I'm asking, "Do you speak English?" 1221 00:56:30,845 --> 00:56:32,263 And then I had to catch myself. 1222 00:56:32,347 --> 00:56:35,475 I'm like, "I'm asking them if they speak English in France 1223 00:56:35,558 --> 00:56:36,893 "or in Greece, you know, 1224 00:56:36,976 --> 00:56:38,728 "I should be making the effort to speak their language. 1225 00:56:38,812 --> 00:56:41,564 And if I see that they speak English, then I adjust." 1226 00:56:41,648 --> 00:56:43,108 But, uh, you know, that's not how we think. 1227 00:56:43,191 --> 00:56:45,443 We think because we're the greatest country in the world 1228 00:56:45,527 --> 00:56:47,987 that everybody just abides by how we think 1229 00:56:48,071 --> 00:56:49,197 and how we operate. 1230 00:56:49,823 --> 00:56:51,616 Obviously, you guys have been in Europe before, 1231 00:56:51,950 --> 00:56:55,328 but in a smaller town like this where there's not a lot of diversity... 1232 00:56:55,412 --> 00:56:57,539 - Yeah. - ...like, do you guys feel that like as... 1233 00:56:57,622 --> 00:56:59,249 - You know, the stares? - The stares? 1234 00:56:59,332 --> 00:57:01,459 - The stares is crazy. Like, and-- - Uh-huh. 1235 00:57:01,543 --> 00:57:04,170 And-- and people will stare and not say anything, 1236 00:57:04,254 --> 00:57:06,798 and it will just be like 100%... 1237 00:57:06,881 --> 00:57:08,383 We can go over to-- Uh... 1238 00:57:09,050 --> 00:57:11,094 will just continue to stare and not look away. 1239 00:57:11,177 --> 00:57:13,972 I'm like, "Wow, this is like-- this is bold." 1240 00:57:14,431 --> 00:57:16,057 - But... - So do you feel like it's-- 1241 00:57:16,141 --> 00:57:18,560 Is it, like, malicious or are they just curious? 1242 00:57:18,643 --> 00:57:21,479 No, I think it's like, it's like curiosity 1243 00:57:21,563 --> 00:57:22,564 and it's kind of just like, 1244 00:57:22,647 --> 00:57:24,524 "Wh-- Like, what are you guys doing here?" 1245 00:57:25,191 --> 00:57:27,235 Because it's such a, like, a random city. 1246 00:57:27,318 --> 00:57:28,695 - Yeah. - Yeah. 1247 00:57:28,778 --> 00:57:30,488 - Yeah. - But now we're getting 1248 00:57:30,572 --> 00:57:31,906 the stares of people recognizing... 1249 00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:33,741 - Right. True. - ...because we're in the finals. 1250 00:57:33,825 --> 00:57:35,452 - Yeah. - So now it's kind of different. 1251 00:57:35,535 --> 00:57:38,329 It's-- They're kind of afraid to approach us. 1252 00:57:38,413 --> 00:57:40,999 - Yeah, yeah. - Like, "Oh, you play basketball?" 1253 00:57:41,082 --> 00:57:42,500 - Yeah. - And-- 'Cause, like, 1254 00:57:42,584 --> 00:57:44,836 after you guys left, uh, in the restaurant, 1255 00:57:44,919 --> 00:57:46,546 - someone noticed us like, hey... - Mm-hmm. 1256 00:57:46,629 --> 00:57:49,174 He's like, "Finals tomorrow." I said, "Yeah, are you coming?" 1257 00:57:49,257 --> 00:57:50,884 He's like, "Yeah, yeah, I'm coming." 1258 00:57:51,426 --> 00:57:53,470 You go to places and you gotta-- 1259 00:57:53,553 --> 00:57:57,015 you can't walk around with certain-- certain body parts showing 1260 00:57:57,098 --> 00:57:58,391 and you know, things of that nature. 1261 00:57:58,475 --> 00:58:00,101 So, you don't want to go there and get caught up 1262 00:58:00,185 --> 00:58:02,520 'cause rules are different over there than they are over here. 1263 00:58:02,604 --> 00:58:06,316 We might say, "Hey, this is more lenient so you'll be okay, 1264 00:58:06,399 --> 00:58:08,401 or it's just a slap on the wrist," but you go over there? 1265 00:58:08,485 --> 00:58:11,237 You're American, you not-- you don't have anybody fighting for you like that. 1266 00:58:11,321 --> 00:58:14,574 So you gotta make sure, like, you know what each country 1267 00:58:14,657 --> 00:58:16,701 kinda wants and expects from you. 1268 00:58:16,784 --> 00:58:18,203 And then you gotta-- you gotta carry it out. 1269 00:58:18,286 --> 00:58:20,580 When I'm having discussions with my agent 1270 00:58:20,663 --> 00:58:22,916 about where I'm going and I'm talking with my parents, 1271 00:58:22,999 --> 00:58:26,127 it's like, "Okay, what's the situation in the country? 1272 00:58:26,211 --> 00:58:28,796 Like, what's going on? Is it a safe area?" 1273 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,048 Things like that. 1274 00:58:30,131 --> 00:58:32,425 My parents, they will always have those questions, 1275 00:58:32,509 --> 00:58:35,762 and I think they'll always be concerned and worried about me 1276 00:58:35,845 --> 00:58:36,971 no matter where I go. 1277 00:58:37,055 --> 00:58:39,432 One of the things we-- I said to Lindsey, you know, 1278 00:58:39,516 --> 00:58:42,310 my pet peeve, don't get involved in politics over there. 1279 00:58:42,393 --> 00:58:45,063 You're there to focus on basketball, enjoy, 1280 00:58:45,146 --> 00:58:46,481 learn about the culture, 1281 00:58:46,981 --> 00:58:49,734 but don't-- don't get into protests or whatever it is. 1282 00:58:49,817 --> 00:58:53,196 Because the political environment is very sensitive right now. 1283 00:58:53,279 --> 00:58:56,241 And seeing what happened to Brittney Griner 1284 00:58:56,324 --> 00:58:57,867 was a huge concern. 1285 00:58:57,951 --> 00:58:59,577 Two-time Olympic gold medalist 1286 00:58:59,661 --> 00:59:03,665 and WNBA star Brittney Griner has been detained in Russia. 1287 00:59:04,249 --> 00:59:08,336 Under Russian law, Griner could face 10 years in jail. 1288 00:59:08,419 --> 00:59:10,547 People were wondering why Brittney Griner is going to Russia 1289 00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:12,549 being the star that she is here in the states. 1290 00:59:12,632 --> 00:59:14,092 It's because she's getting paid millions. 1291 00:59:14,175 --> 00:59:17,220 Now some people might think $100,000, $200,000 1292 00:59:17,303 --> 00:59:19,973 is good money, um, for-- for a normal citizen 1293 00:59:20,056 --> 00:59:21,432 working a conventional job. 1294 00:59:21,933 --> 00:59:25,895 But, if you put it in the context of professional sports, 1295 00:59:25,979 --> 00:59:28,855 it's well below what most people are getting paid 1296 00:59:28,897 --> 00:59:29,918 for being a high level talent. 1297 00:59:31,150 --> 00:59:33,403 You know, people always think, "Okay, 1298 00:59:33,486 --> 00:59:35,405 "when Americans come overseas 1299 00:59:35,488 --> 00:59:38,741 "that they're automatically going to dominate 1300 00:59:38,825 --> 00:59:40,451 and carry the team." 1301 00:59:40,535 --> 00:59:42,161 But that's not always the case. 1302 00:59:42,245 --> 00:59:45,498 So that definitely could be a-- a misconception. 1303 00:59:59,637 --> 01:00:01,806 If they sit on the, uh, side... 1304 01:00:01,889 --> 01:00:03,558 She really brings a lot of energy. 1305 01:00:03,641 --> 01:00:05,643 She's able to score in all position 1306 01:00:05,727 --> 01:00:09,939 and, uh, you know, I like her game and I like her personality. 1307 01:00:10,023 --> 01:00:13,443 Uh, you-- She can, uh, she can make a lot of joke with me. 1308 01:00:13,526 --> 01:00:15,737 So-- so I'm really good with her. 1309 01:00:15,820 --> 01:00:18,906 Now she's able to score, uh, uh, 20, 25 points. 1310 01:00:18,990 --> 01:00:22,201 So, she needs just to continue in these, uh, in these things. 1311 01:00:22,285 --> 01:00:25,622 Uh, what she is doing now and we can be successful. 1312 01:00:31,127 --> 01:00:33,171 You think by myself? 1313 01:00:33,921 --> 01:00:35,256 You said you had it at home. 1314 01:00:36,299 --> 01:00:38,134 I'm gonna get annoyed with you. What is that? 1315 01:00:38,217 --> 01:00:39,594 What happened? 1316 01:00:39,677 --> 01:00:42,096 'Cause she said she still didn't eat hers. She got it at home. She said-- 1317 01:00:42,180 --> 01:00:43,556 Oh, so you were gonna get another piece? 1318 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,725 - Yeah. - So you're gonna eat two tonight? 1319 01:00:45,808 --> 01:00:47,727 - Worth it though. - No, I'm just going to have one tonight. 1320 01:00:47,810 --> 01:00:50,521 - You're just gonna save them, like... - I respect it. 1321 01:00:50,980 --> 01:00:53,650 I rather, you know... I keep that thang on me. 1322 01:00:53,733 --> 01:00:55,151 Little bit of cheesecake. 1323 01:00:56,194 --> 01:00:57,362 So you're going to put it-- 1324 01:00:57,445 --> 01:00:58,905 - It's the princess. - Right? 1325 01:00:58,988 --> 01:01:01,616 Okay, but if I'm walking first... 1326 01:01:01,699 --> 01:01:03,868 But you gotta walk through, like, the narrowest... 1327 01:01:04,869 --> 01:01:08,247 I mean, honestly, like, for me, I-- when I first get there, 1328 01:01:08,331 --> 01:01:12,377 I'm thinking, like, about my first break where I can go home like in November. 1329 01:01:12,460 --> 01:01:14,921 No, like, real talk, I'm thinking about that like, "Okay, 1330 01:01:15,004 --> 01:01:16,339 I just gotta make it to then." 1331 01:01:16,422 --> 01:01:18,758 Then, by then, I kind of just, like, try and break it up 1332 01:01:18,841 --> 01:01:21,511 like, "Okay, we're in the middle of the season." 1333 01:01:21,594 --> 01:01:23,888 Like, okay, just trying to break up like 1334 01:01:23,971 --> 01:01:25,848 how many games we got or things like that. 1335 01:01:25,932 --> 01:01:27,892 Using basketball instead of letting basketball 1336 01:01:27,975 --> 01:01:31,020 just use you or use your body, like it's better. 1337 01:01:31,479 --> 01:01:33,731 I think-- I'ma say it. I think it's different in Canada 1338 01:01:33,815 --> 01:01:35,191 compared to the States. 1339 01:01:35,274 --> 01:01:38,903 One, just because there's so many schools out there. 1340 01:01:38,986 --> 01:01:41,406 - Yeah. - There are so many athletes graduating, 1341 01:01:41,489 --> 01:01:43,574 - trying to get to WNBA obviously. - Yeah. 1342 01:01:43,658 --> 01:01:45,451 But, like, in Canada, like, 1343 01:01:45,535 --> 01:01:47,245 - we don't have that same opportunity. - Mm. 1344 01:01:47,328 --> 01:01:49,038 Like, if you're good enough in Canada, 1345 01:01:49,122 --> 01:01:51,666 - yeah, you'll go D1 in the States, fine. - Yeah. 1346 01:01:51,749 --> 01:01:53,751 But other than that, like, the goal is overseas. 1347 01:01:53,835 --> 01:01:55,420 - Okay. Mm-hmm. - Like, that is the goal. 1348 01:01:55,503 --> 01:01:57,004 Like, I want to play professional basketball. 1349 01:01:57,088 --> 01:01:59,340 There's no professional league in Canada. 1350 01:01:59,424 --> 01:02:00,675 - Or women's at least. - Okay. 1351 01:02:00,758 --> 01:02:02,885 And then, men's, it's only in the summertime. 1352 01:02:02,969 --> 01:02:03,970 Mm. 1353 01:02:04,053 --> 01:02:06,013 Um, and that's only for like a couple months. 1354 01:02:06,097 --> 01:02:08,433 And then, yeah, other than that, like, it's like, 1355 01:02:08,516 --> 01:02:09,976 "Okay, let me just try to get something." 1356 01:02:10,059 --> 01:02:11,060 - Yeah, where-- - People-- 1357 01:02:11,144 --> 01:02:12,520 Like, I know a couple people 1358 01:02:12,603 --> 01:02:15,314 that were pretty good in college 1359 01:02:15,398 --> 01:02:17,859 that are making like less than $1,000. 1360 01:02:17,942 --> 01:02:18,985 - I believe it. - Mm-hmm. 1361 01:02:19,068 --> 01:02:20,528 And I'm like, uh... 1362 01:02:20,611 --> 01:02:22,655 - You-- What can you do with that? - Yeah. 1363 01:02:22,739 --> 01:02:24,073 Like, you really have to, like, love-- 1364 01:02:24,157 --> 01:02:25,616 - Less than $1,000? - Love the game. 1365 01:02:25,700 --> 01:02:27,493 - You have to love it. - You have to love the game. 1366 01:02:27,577 --> 01:02:29,704 And that's-- that's so many factors. That's your agent. 1367 01:02:29,787 --> 01:02:31,247 That's who your agent knows. That's the team. 1368 01:02:31,330 --> 01:02:33,040 Like, a team is gonna low-ball you for real, like... 1369 01:02:33,124 --> 01:02:34,667 - For sure. - If you worth a certain amount of money, 1370 01:02:34,751 --> 01:02:35,960 they're not gonna give it to you from jump. 1371 01:02:36,043 --> 01:02:37,879 Your agent has to work for that. Yeah. 1372 01:02:37,962 --> 01:02:40,173 - Exactly. - But people are taking it so it's like... 1373 01:02:40,256 --> 01:02:42,008 Because they don't know though, like... 1374 01:02:43,384 --> 01:02:46,179 Diana Taurasi, she played in Russia to the point 1375 01:02:46,262 --> 01:02:48,556 where her team one season in Russia, 1376 01:02:48,639 --> 01:02:50,850 paid her not to play in the WNBA. 1377 01:02:50,933 --> 01:02:53,519 Like, that's how important they are to these teams in Europe. 1378 01:02:53,603 --> 01:02:56,814 They have to go play overseas to give themselves the lifestyle afforded 1379 01:02:56,898 --> 01:02:58,524 to a professional basketball player 1380 01:02:58,608 --> 01:03:00,777 simply because the WNBA doesn't pay them 1381 01:03:00,860 --> 01:03:02,403 the amount of money that Europe does. 1382 01:03:10,369 --> 01:03:14,165 I was getting major attention from a lot of high level teams in Europe, 1383 01:03:14,248 --> 01:03:16,459 and I was getting a lot of attention from NBA clubs, 1384 01:03:17,084 --> 01:03:19,378 then I got diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. 1385 01:03:19,462 --> 01:03:21,964 Now, to a story of commitment and persistence. 1386 01:03:22,048 --> 01:03:24,133 Chris Wright was playing professional basketball overseas 1387 01:03:24,217 --> 01:03:26,928 when he noticed an unusual tingling in his right foot. 1388 01:03:27,011 --> 01:03:29,847 After the sensation started to spread, Chris went to the doctor 1389 01:03:29,931 --> 01:03:32,767 where he was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. 1390 01:03:32,850 --> 01:03:34,727 But rather than marking the end of his playing career, 1391 01:03:34,811 --> 01:03:37,104 it actually marked a new beginning for him. 1392 01:03:37,188 --> 01:03:39,857 A year after his diagnosis, he became the first person with MS 1393 01:03:39,941 --> 01:03:41,776 to play in the NBA. 1394 01:03:41,859 --> 01:03:44,362 Chris Wright and his neurologist Dr. Heidi Crayton 1395 01:03:44,445 --> 01:03:47,490 join us now to discuss the condition and Chris's treatment. 1396 01:03:47,573 --> 01:03:50,076 MS is a condition that affects the central nervous system, 1397 01:03:50,159 --> 01:03:52,912 which is any part of the brain, any part of the spinal cord. 1398 01:03:52,995 --> 01:03:55,790 And how people experience MS really depends on where they're affected. 1399 01:03:55,873 --> 01:03:58,793 So, people can have visual issues, they can have sensation 1400 01:03:58,876 --> 01:04:01,254 or balance issues, weakness. 1401 01:04:01,337 --> 01:04:03,256 I told the head coach, I was like, "Yo, coach, 1402 01:04:03,339 --> 01:04:04,715 I don't know what's going on." 1403 01:04:05,383 --> 01:04:07,134 And you know that whenever a rookie say something, 1404 01:04:07,218 --> 01:04:09,053 they looking at you like, "Whatever." 1405 01:04:09,136 --> 01:04:12,849 I'm like, "Nah, for real. I'm not... I can't feel nothing." 1406 01:04:12,932 --> 01:04:14,225 So they told me to take the day off. 1407 01:04:14,308 --> 01:04:15,518 I went to the doctor, 1408 01:04:16,185 --> 01:04:18,479 and when I went to the doctor, they did all the little testing, 1409 01:04:18,563 --> 01:04:20,022 "Can you feel this?" "No, I can't feel this." 1410 01:04:20,106 --> 01:04:21,274 "Alright, well, take the day off." 1411 01:04:21,649 --> 01:04:24,861 Drink some water is what they told me. Mm... Alright. 1412 01:04:24,944 --> 01:04:28,364 Um, so I went home and kind of forgot about it. 1413 01:04:28,447 --> 01:04:30,700 You know, I'm walking around and stuff, but it just feels weird. 1414 01:04:30,783 --> 01:04:32,702 Then I go to sleep. The next morning, I wake up, 1415 01:04:33,327 --> 01:04:36,122 go to get out-- get out of the bed, I fall and collapse to the floor. 1416 01:04:36,914 --> 01:04:40,334 No feeling, I can't lift my legs, I can't lift my arms, nothing like that. 1417 01:04:40,418 --> 01:04:43,880 I had to crawl to text my teammate to come help me 1418 01:04:43,963 --> 01:04:45,715 in the-- in the apartment and all that stuff. 1419 01:04:45,798 --> 01:04:49,093 And then I went back, this time in a wheelchair 1420 01:04:49,176 --> 01:04:50,344 because I couldn't move. 1421 01:04:51,178 --> 01:04:54,056 Again, they told me nothing was wrong even though I came in a wheelchair. 1422 01:04:54,140 --> 01:04:57,268 So, I had some choice words, you know what I'm saying? 1423 01:04:57,351 --> 01:04:59,020 It got a little-- Got my point across 1424 01:04:59,103 --> 01:05:01,480 and they sent me to a specialist in Istanbul. 1425 01:05:02,106 --> 01:05:04,233 And that's when I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. 1426 01:05:04,317 --> 01:05:06,527 And at the time, I ain't gonna lie, I wasn't even tripping. 1427 01:05:06,611 --> 01:05:11,032 I wasn't even like... like devastated, nothing. I just-- It-- 1428 01:05:11,115 --> 01:05:12,825 'Cause everything happened so fast. 1429 01:05:12,909 --> 01:05:14,702 I was like, "What you mean?" Like, what-- what-- 1430 01:05:14,785 --> 01:05:17,288 "I can't play no more? I was just running and dunking and jumping, 1431 01:05:17,371 --> 01:05:19,040 "and flying around yesterday... 1432 01:05:19,123 --> 01:05:20,750 - "...and now you gonna tell me 1433 01:05:20,833 --> 01:05:22,418 because of something that just happened..." 1434 01:05:22,501 --> 01:05:23,586 I don't even know what it is. 1435 01:05:23,669 --> 01:05:25,838 I didn't-- had no clue what multiple sclerosis was. 1436 01:05:25,922 --> 01:05:27,965 "...that I could never play basketball again? 1437 01:05:28,090 --> 01:05:30,259 Nah, you got that wrong." 1438 01:05:31,093 --> 01:05:32,929 Chris Wright fancies his chances, 1439 01:05:33,012 --> 01:05:34,597 and why not? 1440 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,099 I don't think people truly understand, you know, 1441 01:05:37,183 --> 01:05:39,352 how significant it's for Chris Wright 1442 01:05:39,435 --> 01:05:41,646 to be playing professional basketball in general, 1443 01:05:41,729 --> 01:05:44,315 let alone the NBA with multiple sclerosis. 1444 01:05:44,398 --> 01:05:47,526 He not only battled through that in Turkey 1445 01:05:47,610 --> 01:05:50,613 but subsequently ended up making it to the NBA 1446 01:05:50,696 --> 01:05:53,032 with the Dallas Mavericks and playing in a NBA game 1447 01:05:53,491 --> 01:05:54,617 with this same disease. 1448 01:05:54,700 --> 01:05:58,579 The league is made up of around 400 players every year, give or take. 1449 01:05:58,663 --> 01:06:01,874 And there are tens of thousands of American basketball players 1450 01:06:01,958 --> 01:06:04,168 that are trying to play professional basketball. 1451 01:06:04,251 --> 01:06:07,046 So, for him to get one of those coveted spots 1452 01:06:07,129 --> 01:06:10,049 while being diagnosed with that debilitating disease, 1453 01:06:10,132 --> 01:06:11,717 it's nothing short of a miracle. 1454 01:06:11,801 --> 01:06:15,262 Seven doctors said, "No, you can never do this again." 1455 01:06:15,346 --> 01:06:17,598 And I kept saying, "Alright, well, I'ma go find somebody else." 1456 01:06:17,682 --> 01:06:18,683 Yeah. 1457 01:06:18,766 --> 01:06:20,810 I had to teach myself how to do everything again: 1458 01:06:20,893 --> 01:06:23,646 walk, I had to teach myself how to run and teach myself how to shoot, 1459 01:06:23,729 --> 01:06:24,939 had to teach myself how to jump. 1460 01:06:25,022 --> 01:06:27,024 Now, fast-forward eight months, 1461 01:06:27,108 --> 01:06:28,985 nine months later, I was in NBA. 1462 01:06:29,068 --> 01:06:31,362 I had an opportunity to go-- go to the NBA, 1463 01:06:31,445 --> 01:06:34,198 um, specifically when I was leaving Olympiacos. 1464 01:06:34,281 --> 01:06:38,119 Um, it was either go to CSKA or go to-- at the time it was the Atlanta Hawks, 1465 01:06:38,202 --> 01:06:41,580 and I chose to stay overseas and not even like-- throughout my career, 1466 01:06:41,664 --> 01:06:43,833 not even necessarily explore those NBA opportunities 1467 01:06:43,916 --> 01:06:46,544 because I really enjoyed playing basketball overseas. 1468 01:06:46,627 --> 01:06:48,796 Kyle said something that was very profound. 1469 01:06:50,089 --> 01:06:52,591 He said that American basketball players 1470 01:06:53,259 --> 01:06:56,721 are signed overseas but set up to fail. 1471 01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,933 And I never thought about it like that, but it's very true, 1472 01:07:01,017 --> 01:07:03,811 because when you play overseas, 1473 01:07:03,894 --> 01:07:05,604 you know that there's a cloud over you, 1474 01:07:05,688 --> 01:07:08,983 and you have a very short leash to make mistakes 1475 01:07:09,066 --> 01:07:12,528 because you will always be the scapegoat and the first person they look at, 1476 01:07:12,611 --> 01:07:15,197 because they're paying the most money for you to be there. 1477 01:07:15,281 --> 01:07:17,491 It costs a lot to bring an American 1478 01:07:17,575 --> 01:07:19,410 to a team, internationally. 1479 01:07:19,493 --> 01:07:21,495 You have to pay for visas, you have to pay for the housing, 1480 01:07:21,579 --> 01:07:23,122 you have to pay for round trip flights, 1481 01:07:23,205 --> 01:07:24,290 you have to pay for cars, 1482 01:07:24,373 --> 01:07:26,584 you have to obviously pay a salary, insurance. 1483 01:07:26,667 --> 01:07:28,044 There are a lot of things that come 1484 01:07:28,127 --> 01:07:30,254 with signing an American in these countries 1485 01:07:30,337 --> 01:07:32,757 because they're not-- you're not just signing them as a basketball player, 1486 01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,384 you're signing them as a working citizen in the country. 1487 01:07:37,219 --> 01:07:40,431 The NBA is the NBA. Like, that-- There's no substitute for that. 1488 01:07:40,514 --> 01:07:42,391 But for me, like, you know, I found my niche, 1489 01:07:42,475 --> 01:07:45,061 and I was like, you know, I'm just gonna stick with it and stay with it. 1490 01:07:45,144 --> 01:07:46,645 And-and-and like I said, 1491 01:07:46,729 --> 01:07:48,773 I think it's-- it's worked out for me just a little bit. 1492 01:07:48,856 --> 01:07:51,776 In terms of what the-- the negatives are overseas, 1493 01:07:51,859 --> 01:07:54,403 not getting paid on time, not getting paid at all. 1494 01:07:54,487 --> 01:07:56,864 Um, and that's a big issue overseas. 1495 01:07:56,947 --> 01:07:58,199 So, I would say that, 1496 01:07:58,282 --> 01:08:00,159 because you can't really have a union over there. 1497 01:08:00,242 --> 01:08:02,036 It's tough 'cause it's so many different countries, 1498 01:08:02,119 --> 01:08:03,329 so many different rules. 1499 01:08:03,913 --> 01:08:07,416 So there's no-- And FIBA's going to side more with the clubs 1500 01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:10,127 because that's where they getting their money from. 1501 01:08:10,211 --> 01:08:11,921 You know, so it just makes more sense 1502 01:08:12,004 --> 01:08:14,090 that we will have some... 1503 01:08:14,173 --> 01:08:16,008 we don't have as much leverage as we want. 1504 01:08:16,092 --> 01:08:20,554 "2007." Yeah, 2007 Pan American Games, USA jersey. 1505 01:08:20,638 --> 01:08:22,223 That was a dope experience. 1506 01:08:22,306 --> 01:08:25,267 I consider FIBA, which is the governing body 1507 01:08:25,351 --> 01:08:27,144 of international basketball, 1508 01:08:27,228 --> 01:08:28,938 it's organized chaos. 1509 01:08:29,021 --> 01:08:32,525 And so, obviously everybody has contracts, 1510 01:08:32,608 --> 01:08:36,237 and there's, you know, stanzas in place 1511 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,072 where if things go left, 1512 01:08:38,155 --> 01:08:40,366 then you go to arbitration in Switzerland 1513 01:08:40,449 --> 01:08:42,034 because Switzerland is neutral, 1514 01:08:42,118 --> 01:08:44,620 and all of these things are in place. 1515 01:08:44,703 --> 01:08:47,665 A lot of times, the teams know how to work around that. 1516 01:08:47,748 --> 01:08:50,709 So, for instance, like a country-- like a market like Greece, 1517 01:08:50,793 --> 01:08:53,671 they're infamous for not paying their players. 1518 01:08:54,380 --> 01:08:56,215 They have outstanding debts throughout the league. 1519 01:08:56,298 --> 01:08:58,926 Teams have that, and myself included. 1520 01:08:59,009 --> 01:09:01,679 That was the first and only place that I didn't get all of my money. 1521 01:09:07,726 --> 01:09:10,437 I went through a economic crisis when I was in Greece. 1522 01:09:10,521 --> 01:09:11,856 You know, it got to a point, 1523 01:09:11,939 --> 01:09:15,067 uh, where you could only take out 400 Euros a week, 1524 01:09:15,526 --> 01:09:16,569 you know, out of the bank. 1525 01:09:16,652 --> 01:09:18,195 You could swipe your card as much as you want 1526 01:09:18,279 --> 01:09:19,530 but only 400 Euros a week. 1527 01:09:19,613 --> 01:09:22,575 My thing was, I get that the Greek citizens, you know, 1528 01:09:22,658 --> 01:09:24,660 they can't take their money out the bank and stuff like this 1529 01:09:24,743 --> 01:09:26,287 but for the players that are over here, 1530 01:09:26,370 --> 01:09:28,581 like, between basketball, football, all the sports 1531 01:09:28,664 --> 01:09:30,833 that aren't Greek citizens, we should be able to take our money out 1532 01:09:30,916 --> 01:09:32,084 and send it back home. 1533 01:09:32,168 --> 01:09:34,253 And Greeks no-- uh, voted against it. 1534 01:09:34,336 --> 01:09:36,505 So, everybody kinda had to leave their money in the banks. 1535 01:09:36,589 --> 01:09:37,756 You couldn't take it out. 1536 01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,217 Uh, and this went on for probably like two years. 1537 01:09:40,301 --> 01:09:42,720 So. when you go to arbitration, one, as a player, 1538 01:09:42,803 --> 01:09:44,680 you have to pay for that out of your pocket. 1539 01:09:44,763 --> 01:09:47,850 That whole process. That meeting, it's expensive, right? 1540 01:09:47,933 --> 01:09:50,227 And it-- They can draw it out, too. 1541 01:09:50,311 --> 01:09:52,104 The team can draw it out and things like that. 1542 01:09:52,188 --> 01:09:55,191 And that's-- In that same breath, you're looking for your next contract. 1543 01:09:55,274 --> 01:09:59,111 So, what they bank on is the players saying, "Hey, well... 1544 01:10:00,070 --> 01:10:02,865 "yeah, I know I'm owed this money, but I have my next contract coming up 1545 01:10:02,948 --> 01:10:05,159 and they still might not rule in my favor." 1546 01:10:05,242 --> 01:10:07,077 You know, that's-- that's the risk, 1547 01:10:07,161 --> 01:10:08,871 and that's the reality for a lot of players. 1548 01:10:08,954 --> 01:10:11,415 So teams know that. And there's really little recourse 1549 01:10:11,498 --> 01:10:13,000 that you have to get your money. 1550 01:10:15,044 --> 01:10:17,463 I've been in games where I've been three for five from three... 1551 01:10:18,631 --> 01:10:20,841 ...and I'm thinking to myself, in the middle of a game, 1552 01:10:20,925 --> 01:10:23,844 "Alright, if I shoot above 50% this season, 1553 01:10:23,928 --> 01:10:26,180 I'll get more money next year on my next contract," 1554 01:10:26,263 --> 01:10:28,557 in the middle of the game. So I'll turn down wide open shots. 1555 01:10:28,641 --> 01:10:30,434 I'm no longer playing basketball, 1556 01:10:30,517 --> 01:10:32,186 I'm making business decisions on the court. 1557 01:10:46,784 --> 01:10:48,744 Thank you. 1558 01:10:48,827 --> 01:10:50,412 Just kind of like packing up, 1559 01:10:50,496 --> 01:10:54,333 trying to get myself organized, um, to pack up 1560 01:10:54,416 --> 01:10:57,503 as the, like, the season's kinda coming to an end, 1561 01:10:58,045 --> 01:10:59,421 trying to figure out 1562 01:10:59,505 --> 01:11:02,216 how I'm gonna get all this stuff back home, 1563 01:11:02,716 --> 01:11:07,096 and what I can kind of leave and maybe give-- give away here, 1564 01:11:07,179 --> 01:11:10,391 uh, and what I can take back home. 1565 01:11:10,474 --> 01:11:12,768 It's kind of like a bittersweet feeling 1566 01:11:12,851 --> 01:11:14,645 of knowing the season is ending 1567 01:11:14,728 --> 01:11:18,148 and I get to go home, see my family, um... 1568 01:11:19,191 --> 01:11:21,527 but also knowing that, like, basketball 1569 01:11:21,610 --> 01:11:24,738 is-- is kinda coming to an end for this year 1570 01:11:24,822 --> 01:11:26,782 is a little bit-- is a little bit sad, 1571 01:11:26,865 --> 01:11:30,119 but also very exciting for me to go home. 1572 01:11:30,202 --> 01:11:32,496 'Cause you're-- you're here for majority of the year 1573 01:11:32,579 --> 01:11:34,248 and it gets tough. 1574 01:11:34,331 --> 01:11:36,333 Like, you-- you spend a lot of time by yourself 1575 01:11:36,417 --> 01:11:40,129 without seeing people that you see on a day-to-day basis at home. 1576 01:11:40,212 --> 01:11:43,132 So this-- it's kinda exciting for me, 1577 01:11:43,215 --> 01:11:47,261 besides the stressful part of, uh, just trying to pack and everything. 1578 01:11:55,311 --> 01:11:56,979 For my career, I definitely have-- 1579 01:11:57,062 --> 01:11:59,940 I definitely have some huge decisions to make very soon. 1580 01:12:00,691 --> 01:12:03,402 The season ends, the regular season ends in three weeks. 1581 01:12:03,485 --> 01:12:07,072 If we have playoffs, the season ends in five to six weeks. 1582 01:12:07,156 --> 01:12:10,034 So, I'm pretty much getting to the near-- near the end of it, 1583 01:12:10,117 --> 01:12:12,077 and it's time to figure out what my next steps are. 1584 01:12:12,161 --> 01:12:13,912 I don't really want to stay idle too long. 1585 01:12:13,996 --> 01:12:15,831 I'm just gonna have to talk to-- to my agent, 1586 01:12:15,914 --> 01:12:18,917 gonna have to talk to Mike, and see what-- 1587 01:12:19,001 --> 01:12:20,252 see what the market is saying, 1588 01:12:20,336 --> 01:12:22,671 or what my-- my new value in the market would be 1589 01:12:22,755 --> 01:12:24,089 as a basketball player. 1590 01:12:25,257 --> 01:12:27,968 Will I come back to Australia and play for the same team? 1591 01:12:28,052 --> 01:12:30,262 Will I play for a different team in the same league? 1592 01:12:30,346 --> 01:12:32,931 Will I go to one of the different NBL1 leagues, 1593 01:12:33,015 --> 01:12:36,060 like the south and north in Australia? 1594 01:12:36,143 --> 01:12:38,604 Will I go to Europe, South America? 1595 01:12:38,687 --> 01:12:41,523 I'm not sure if there's a country that I can think of right now 1596 01:12:41,607 --> 01:12:43,734 that I definitely wouldn't play in. 1597 01:12:43,817 --> 01:12:47,237 Um, I'd be open to-- to plenty of markets. 1598 01:12:47,321 --> 01:12:48,906 Um, I'm very adventurous. 1599 01:12:48,989 --> 01:12:51,825 So even if it's a-- a country that seems weird, 1600 01:12:51,909 --> 01:12:53,827 I feel like I'd end up going to the country 1601 01:12:53,911 --> 01:12:54,912 just to see what it's like. 1602 01:12:54,995 --> 01:12:56,121 As I've gone through this career, 1603 01:12:56,205 --> 01:12:58,248 getting to know some players that played in the EuroLeague. 1604 01:12:58,332 --> 01:13:00,918 When I was, uh, training earlier this year, for example, 1605 01:13:01,001 --> 01:13:03,379 I got-- I got to train with somebody named James Gist, 1606 01:13:03,462 --> 01:13:06,215 who's-- who I heard played in EuroLeague, which was pretty cool. 1607 01:13:06,298 --> 01:13:07,758 He was telling me about his experiences, 1608 01:13:07,841 --> 01:13:10,594 and it's-- it's just amazing to see people live their life, you know? 1609 01:13:10,677 --> 01:13:13,138 I'm first generation in my family doing something like this. 1610 01:13:13,222 --> 01:13:16,016 I never had somebody lay out the blueprint for me. 1611 01:13:16,433 --> 01:13:17,643 Now I have the blueprint. 1612 01:13:18,185 --> 01:13:20,312 I feel like it would be a sin 1613 01:13:20,396 --> 01:13:24,149 to... waste the gift that God blessed me with, 1614 01:13:25,275 --> 01:13:27,403 to not give back to the next generation that's coming up. 1615 01:13:27,486 --> 01:13:29,613 To not teach the game, to not help them understand, 1616 01:13:29,696 --> 01:13:32,574 you know, what this game can really do for you. 1617 01:13:32,658 --> 01:13:35,452 And not just the game of basketball, but how it correlates to life, you know? 1618 01:13:38,914 --> 01:13:40,833 Overseas basketball is a grind, 1619 01:13:40,916 --> 01:13:43,252 but what he went through to get to where he is now 1620 01:13:43,335 --> 01:13:46,588 in the NBL1 in Australia, is beyond a grind. 1621 01:13:46,964 --> 01:13:49,007 Like, he was subjected to things 1622 01:13:49,091 --> 01:13:51,051 that most people couldn't handle. 1623 01:13:51,135 --> 01:13:53,262 When people think of professional basketball, 1624 01:13:53,345 --> 01:13:54,888 you don't equate it to struggle. 1625 01:13:54,972 --> 01:13:57,766 He truly had to struggle and adjust 1626 01:13:57,850 --> 01:14:00,769 and... and change his life, literally. 1627 01:14:00,853 --> 01:14:02,938 You know, when you see him sitting here today 1628 01:14:03,021 --> 01:14:05,691 playing in the NBL1, what he truly had to sacrifice 1629 01:14:05,774 --> 01:14:08,026 and go through just to get to this point. 1630 01:14:08,110 --> 01:14:10,404 That's one of the biggest things I want people to get from his story. 1631 01:14:10,487 --> 01:14:12,072 Even when-- if I retire from basketball, 1632 01:14:12,156 --> 01:14:14,616 I'm still gonna play, you know, you still gonna see me playing everywhere. 1633 01:14:14,700 --> 01:14:16,535 That's just... I mean, that shit, it's in me. 1634 01:14:16,618 --> 01:14:19,872 I don't-- I don't have to get paid necessarily to play basketball. 1635 01:14:19,955 --> 01:14:21,373 I ain't get paid for a long time, 1636 01:14:21,457 --> 01:14:23,333 and I was playing that shit, you know what I'm saying? 1637 01:14:23,417 --> 01:14:28,130 So, when I stop playing, uh, professionally, who knows? 1638 01:14:33,093 --> 01:14:34,470 What I've learned from my career 1639 01:14:34,553 --> 01:14:37,347 is that you don't know what tomorrow's gonna bring 1640 01:14:37,431 --> 01:14:39,266 as far as a professional athlete. 1641 01:14:39,641 --> 01:14:41,185 You don't know if next season is when 1642 01:14:41,268 --> 01:14:44,229 you're gonna get your big-- big break and make the league. 1643 01:14:44,313 --> 01:14:45,898 You don't know if you're gonna get a raise. 1644 01:14:45,981 --> 01:14:48,901 You don't know if you're gonna get injured. 1645 01:14:53,780 --> 01:14:56,408 About Saudi Arabia, I'm excited about the team 1646 01:14:56,492 --> 01:14:57,993 that I'm gonna be playing on, 1647 01:14:58,535 --> 01:15:01,663 but for me, I'm just thankful overall that, you know, 1648 01:15:01,747 --> 01:15:03,248 I'll be turning 36 this year. 1649 01:15:03,332 --> 01:15:05,667 I'll be going into my 13th season, 1650 01:15:06,126 --> 01:15:07,461 and I'm still able to do this. 1651 01:15:07,544 --> 01:15:09,254 So, that's how I'm looking at it. 1652 01:15:09,338 --> 01:15:12,758 I'm just thankful that at 35 I can still do what I love 1653 01:15:12,841 --> 01:15:14,843 and still get signed and play to do what I love. 1654 01:15:14,927 --> 01:15:16,220 So, I'm thankful. 1655 01:15:18,222 --> 01:15:19,932 I know a lot of guys get discouraged off that, 1656 01:15:20,015 --> 01:15:21,266 like they need the nice apartment, 1657 01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:24,728 they need the-- the-- the nice car to drive, or whatever. 1658 01:15:24,811 --> 01:15:27,064 I'm just there to get the job done, you know what I'm saying? 1659 01:15:27,147 --> 01:15:29,691 I'm there to get the job done, be the best player I can be, 1660 01:15:29,775 --> 01:15:32,444 be the best teammate I can be, the best person I can be. 1661 01:15:33,070 --> 01:15:36,031 And with the understanding that-- that that's not my home, 1662 01:15:36,949 --> 01:15:38,784 that my home is here with my family. 1663 01:15:39,201 --> 01:15:42,621 I want to squeeze every bit of juice I can out of my career. 1664 01:15:42,704 --> 01:15:45,290 So when I'm done, I will never be like, 1665 01:15:45,374 --> 01:15:48,126 I could have done this, I could have went harder. 1666 01:15:48,210 --> 01:15:51,588 Like, I'm real-- I'm-- I'm trying to go as hard as I can 1667 01:15:51,672 --> 01:15:53,090 and live with whatever happens, 1668 01:15:53,173 --> 01:15:56,969 live with however my career played out knowing that I did all I could. 1669 01:15:57,553 --> 01:15:59,012 That's why I go hard. 1670 01:16:14,653 --> 01:16:17,990 To go places and-- and-- and shake hands and meet people 1671 01:16:18,073 --> 01:16:19,783 and then people are like, "Yo, who are you?" 1672 01:16:19,866 --> 01:16:21,910 Like, "'Cause why is everybody coming up to shaking your hand?" 1673 01:16:21,994 --> 01:16:25,038 And I'm like, I'm just, you know, just a-- just a overseas basketball player. 1674 01:16:25,122 --> 01:16:26,456 I've won four EuroLeague titles, 1675 01:16:26,748 --> 01:16:29,960 which I'm the only American in the history of EuroLeague to do so. 1676 01:16:30,502 --> 01:16:32,671 People would say that I'm the most decorated 1677 01:16:32,754 --> 01:16:34,965 or the most accomplished American 1678 01:16:35,048 --> 01:16:37,175 in all of overseas basketball. 1679 01:16:37,259 --> 01:16:39,303 I still pinch myself, you know, every single day. 1680 01:16:39,386 --> 01:16:42,055 - To get respect from your peers, you know, 1681 01:16:42,139 --> 01:16:45,142 means more than any accolade or any individual accomplish-- 1682 01:16:45,225 --> 01:16:47,644 or any, you know, team accomplishment I can ever have. 1683 01:16:53,483 --> 01:16:56,028 If I need to go clear my head, I'm going to the gym. 1684 01:16:56,111 --> 01:16:58,405 If, um, I'm upset, I'm going to the gym. 1685 01:16:58,488 --> 01:16:59,948 If I'm happy-- Like, it doesn't matter. 1686 01:17:00,032 --> 01:17:02,492 That's just something that-- that just-- 1687 01:17:02,576 --> 01:17:05,120 It's like my-- my safe space and my happy place. 1688 01:17:05,203 --> 01:17:08,790 So, um, I don't see myself stopping anytime soon, 1689 01:17:08,874 --> 01:17:11,918 even though it is a grind and it is tough. 1690 01:17:12,002 --> 01:17:13,837 I didn't know how good she was gonna be, 1691 01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:15,547 but being able to be there every step of the way 1692 01:17:15,631 --> 01:17:16,798 - and watch her evolve... - Here we go! 1693 01:17:16,882 --> 01:17:18,300 ...with the type of basketball player she is now, 1694 01:17:18,383 --> 01:17:20,552 and even a sister, like, how much growth I've seen in her, 1695 01:17:20,636 --> 01:17:21,762 it's amazing, really. 1696 01:17:21,845 --> 01:17:23,764 She can still go way higher than she already is. 1697 01:17:34,232 --> 01:17:37,277 I'm like, "Hold up, overseas ain't that bad" for one, 1698 01:17:37,361 --> 01:17:39,196 and two, like, you could really come over here 1699 01:17:39,279 --> 01:17:40,280 and live like Kemba. 1700 01:17:40,364 --> 01:17:42,324 I'm sure he just got off the plane the other day in Monaco, 1701 01:17:42,407 --> 01:17:45,535 and was he just like, "Damn, man, I'm-- it's better than Charlotte." 1702 01:17:45,619 --> 01:17:49,039 I mean, if you in the NBA, yes, you are, but you in Monaco. 1703 01:17:49,122 --> 01:17:52,668 You talking about James Bond, 007, like you Formula One. 1704 01:18:02,803 --> 01:18:04,346 This is the dream. 1705 01:18:04,429 --> 01:18:06,723 We get paid to play basketball, we get to travel the world. 1706 01:18:13,522 --> 01:18:15,482 I feel like chasing this dream is worth it. 1707 01:18:15,565 --> 01:18:16,858 I remind myself of that every day, 1708 01:18:16,942 --> 01:18:19,194 how far I've come in a-- a short time, 1709 01:18:19,277 --> 01:18:21,655 the experiences I've gotten to travel the world, 1710 01:18:21,738 --> 01:18:23,198 experience cultures, 1711 01:18:23,281 --> 01:18:26,576 still playing competitive basketball, it's worth it to me. 1712 01:18:27,703 --> 01:18:29,871 I went to Greece, and I played there for seven years. 1713 01:18:30,288 --> 01:18:31,415 I played in an arena 1714 01:18:31,498 --> 01:18:33,583 that at one point had 30,000 people in there, 1715 01:18:33,667 --> 01:18:36,503 you know, for one of our playoff games, 30,000, 1716 01:18:36,586 --> 01:18:39,506 and, you know, they're all screaming my name. 1717 01:18:40,090 --> 01:18:42,300 "Gist, Gist, Gist, Gist, Gist." 1718 01:18:42,384 --> 01:18:46,304 Why would I give that up... to go play in the NBA 1719 01:18:47,139 --> 01:18:48,390 and not be the main guy? 1720 01:18:52,519 --> 01:18:53,895 ♪ Why'd you think that I bruck this weight? ♪ 1721 01:18:54,271 --> 01:18:55,647 ♪ Tagging it into different shapes ♪ 1722 01:18:55,731 --> 01:18:57,482 ♪ Supply and demand, I got deals all day ♪ 1723 01:18:57,566 --> 01:18:59,192 ♪ Really take trips pulling up on estates ♪ 1724 01:18:59,276 --> 01:19:01,153 ♪ But I ain't seeing not one familiar face ♪ 1725 01:19:01,236 --> 01:19:02,863 ♪ Feds in the rear, fully gas, no brakes ♪ 1726 01:19:02,946 --> 01:19:04,698 ♪ I'm in a blacked-out ding dong with no plates ♪ 1727 01:19:04,781 --> 01:19:06,241 ♪ I'm tryna see how much bread I can make ♪ 1728 01:19:06,658 --> 01:19:08,160 ♪ Why'd you think that I bruck this weight? ♪ 1729 01:19:08,577 --> 01:19:09,870 ♪ Tagging it into different shapes ♪ 1730 01:19:09,953 --> 01:19:11,788 ♪ Supply and demand, I got deals all day ♪ 1731 01:19:11,872 --> 01:19:13,290 ♪ Really take trips pulling up on estates ♪ 1732 01:19:13,373 --> 01:19:15,375 ♪ But I ain't seeing not one familiar face ♪ 1733 01:19:15,459 --> 01:19:16,877 ♪ Feds in the rear, fully gas, no brakes ♪ 1734 01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:18,837 ♪ I'm in a blacked-out ding dong with no plates ♪ 1735 01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:20,797 - ♪ Dots came long, chopped it shorter ♪ 1736 01:19:20,881 --> 01:19:22,591 ♪ Numb to the fact death's around the corner ♪ 1737 01:19:22,674 --> 01:19:24,301 ♪ Masked up, creeping around like a stalker ♪ 1738 01:19:24,384 --> 01:19:26,052 ♪ Tryna put somebody's son on my bora ♪ 1739 01:19:26,136 --> 01:19:27,846 ♪ Six shot spin parked off and it's greased down ♪ 1740 01:19:27,929 --> 01:19:29,431 ♪ Weak in the knees now he's seen this, yeah ♪ 1741 01:19:29,514 --> 01:19:31,558 ♪ Slap more than one, I ain't inna no beat down ♪ 1742 01:19:31,641 --> 01:19:33,185 ♪ This ain't tables, ladders and chairs ♪ 1743 01:19:33,268 --> 01:19:34,436 ♪ I'm tryna better my circumst... ♪ 1744 01:19:34,519 --> 01:19:37,981 Uh, playing with the Maryland Flames, um, my team. 1745 01:19:38,064 --> 01:19:40,984 And then, this is also another poster with just our team. 1746 01:19:41,318 --> 01:19:43,612 So, it's cool to just look back at stuff like this 1747 01:19:43,695 --> 01:19:44,988 when I come home, 1748 01:19:45,405 --> 01:19:47,824 um, and just, like, just take it in 1749 01:19:47,908 --> 01:19:49,826 and realize like how-- where I started 1750 01:19:49,910 --> 01:19:51,536 and where I'm at now is crazy. 151855

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