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(Transcribed by TurboScribe.ai. Go Unlimited to remove this message.) He didn't just leave his phone behind.
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He arranged to be unreachable, Dad.
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This doesn't make any sense.
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Dr. Fraser, where is your husband?
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He is at a medical conference.
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Dr. Jonathan Fraser's employment was terminated three months
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ago.
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A full disciplinary hearing alleged inappropriate contact with
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Eleanor Alvarez.
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Excuse me, I live here.
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Why are you taking his hairbrush?
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We need the hairbrush for DNA, for paternity.
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You need to get protection for yourself.
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Grace, you need to get out of here.
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You're an enemy.
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His story will explode.
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I love you.
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I love you.
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My name is Grace Fraser.
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My husband has just broken in.
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He's a fugitive.
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He's wanted for murder.
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His name is Jonathan Fraser.
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I'm at 361 Beachway Drive.
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I'm freaking terrified.
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I need you to get here quickly.
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Please.
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So he
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didn't call first.
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He just showed up.
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That's right.
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You called 911 approximately five minutes after he
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arrived.
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Yes.
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More or less.
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Is there a reason you're not believing me?
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Because that's what it feels like right now.
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You don't believe me.
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You said he grabbed you by the throat.
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He put his left hand over my mouth.
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He put his right hand behind the back
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of my neck.
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And...
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It's okay.
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I'll take care of it.
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Oh.
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Were you afraid?
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I was terrified.
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Because you thought that he might harm you?
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I don't...
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I mean, I wouldn't rule it out.
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Kill you?
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God, why would you be asking me these
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questions?
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Why are you asking me this?
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We are investigating a crime.
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He assaulted you.
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I'm just trying to assess the severity of
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the assault.
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I'm sorry.
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The DNA results came back.
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And?
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The daughter is his.
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Last name?
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Fraser.
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Last name?
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Lopez.
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Last name?
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Last name?
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Fraser is scheduled to be arraigned at the
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New York County Supreme Court.
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We are also now learning that the victim
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was an artist and that her sculpting hammer
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was discovered to be missing from her studio.
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Police are now considering this as the possible
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murder weapon.
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You'll remember that Eleanor Lopez was found bludgeoned
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to death...
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Henry.
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Can you turn that off, please?
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Henry, turn it off.
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What?
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Turn it off.
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Please.
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Does he have a lawyer?
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I'm hearing he has a public defender.
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Probably hasn't got much money.
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He hasn't been working.
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What about you, money-wise?
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I'm fine.
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He did drain our bank account some, but...
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Hey, so what's happening?
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They'll be charged, they'll enter a plea, and
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it'll be over.
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It'll all go pretty quickly.
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Do you know who his attorney is?
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No, I do not.
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My grapevine is a bit limited on the
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criminal side.
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But, Grace, I don't know.
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I don't know what you've been reading, I
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don't know what you've seen, but I am
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telling you, you need to hire your own
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attorney.
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The prospect of you knowing, possibly aiding and
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abetting...
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What?
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Harboring a fugitive...
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I didn't do that.
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I'm not...
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Even so, this is what they do.
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The police will want to secure your cooperation.
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Leverage is leverage.
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I'm telling you.
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I'm here.
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I will call you on the other side,
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okay?
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Okay.
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Hey.
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Hi.
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It's a madhouse.
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I can't see over there.
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It's too dark.
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Oh, he's got the Badger.
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Who?
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For his attorney, Robert Adelman.
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He's a public defender.
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He's good, but he's not great.
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He just chews and gnaws.
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We call him the Badger.
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Catherine Stamper's prosecuting him.
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Actually, we interned together for a hot minute.
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She's a heavy hitter.
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She's here in person for the arraignment.
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It means they're not messing around.
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Oh, Jesus.
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Her husband is death glaring me at the
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Godkilder.
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Who's he with?
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I don't know.
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With his mother or something.
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What?
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Okay.
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No, I have to get off the phone.
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Okay.
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All rise.
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The criminal court of the city of New
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York is now in session.
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The Honorable Layla Scott presiding.
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Please be seated.
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I have allowed television cameras into this room
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for today only.
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I'm making a public interest exception pursuant to
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my authority under local civil rule 1.8.
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However, however, this courtroom will not become a
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circus.
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I don't want to see anybody talking on
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phones, Snapchatting, Instagramming, or any of the other
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social media nonsense.
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We're going to call the case, bring in
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the defendant, arraign him in accordance with the
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duly promulgated Civil Code.
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I hope I have made myself abundantly clear.
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Go ahead.
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Docket number 62333.
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The people of the state of New York
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versus Jonathan Frazier.
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Count one, murder in the first degree.
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Count two, aggravated rape.
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Robert Adelman for the defendant, Your Honor.
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At this time, we'll waive reading of the
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charges and enter a plea not guilty for
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all charges.
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We also ask...
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Catherine Stamper for the people, Your Honor.
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We oppose bail.
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This was a heinous and violent crime.
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My client has long-standing roots in the
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community.
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The defendant has already demonstrated himself to be
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a placer.
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He fled the jurisdiction.
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Not so much as a parking ticket.
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Well, murder and rape, he hit the ground
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running.
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Objection.
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Ask for sanctions.
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Ten million bond, two million cash.
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Take the defendant back into custody.
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Thank you, Your Honor.
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Next case.
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Docket number 62432.
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The people of the state of New York
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versus Matthew Tinker.
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He looks scared.
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Dad.
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How we doing?
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It's been nearly a week, son.
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Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
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First things first.
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Don't be talking to nobody in here.
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The franchise is populated with reprobates that are
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going to improve their pride.
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Any information they can glean from you might
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be dividends, and not to you.
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Well, I would only tell them that I'm
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innocent.
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Innocent is good.
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Saying nothing is better.
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So can you get me out of it?
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With money for bail?
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Yes.
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With my persuasive skills, more of a challenge.
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You own your own home?
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The one in the fancy building I seen
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on the news?
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I own it jointly with my wife.
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I am innocent.
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Do you care?
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Not really.
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Truth be told, I prefer my clients guilty.
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Takes the pressure off.
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I should say, having read the police report,
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I would have been very surprised if you
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were innocent.
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In fact, it would be difficult for an
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innocent man to present more guilty, unless of
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course he was stupid, which I'm figuring you're
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not since you cure cancer and all.
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Back to me, please.
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You know, I should say up front that
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in my experience, doctors tend to be assholes.
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The reason they tend to be assholes is
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because they get to be.
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They're doctors.
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My point is, you don't get to be
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one anymore.
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I would be very grateful if you could
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arrange to
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meet my wife.
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Dr. Fraser.
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Thanks for coming.
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I'm Robert, Robert Avery.
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Nice to meet you.
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Please.
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This must be a terrible hardship for you
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on us.
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My sympathies on that.
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Hi, can I get you anything?
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No, I'm fine, thank you.
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Your husband seems pretty convinced that you would
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vouch for his innocence.
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I won't.
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I can't.
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Oh, okay.
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You strike me as a wife suffering from
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PTB.
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Excuse me?
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Post Traumatic Betrayal.
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I kind of, I kind of caught it
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myself.
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It's not real.
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It means a fucked over person being fucked
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over often believes the fucker over it to
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be capable of anything, including murder.
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So my question to you, before you got
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wind of the fact that he was unfaithful,
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you pre-fucked over our impression of him.
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Did he strike you as a person capable
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of committing this kind of mayhem?
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If he did, do you think I'd be
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married to him?
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My specialty is reading people.
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It's the best tool in my kit.
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Getting a feel for a person.
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I'm thinking your husband is a bit of
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a dick, but not a killer.
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And what do you think?
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I don't know what I think.
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I wouldn't go anywhere near the son of
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a bitch.
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Don't tell me you're considering it.
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I feel like I owe it to Henry
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to allow for his father to be innocent,
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don't I?
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No, you do not.
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I just need to get a semblance of
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the truth.
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What makes you think you will get the
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truth from him?
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You think he did it, don't you?
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No, baby.
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No, no.
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No.
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Thanks for
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coming.
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How's Henry?
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How do you think he might be?
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Look, I don't know what the purpose of
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this conversation is, but you wanted me to
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come and I'm here.
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Well, it's not to convince you that I'm
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a good husband.
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Or a good father.
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You didn't just do this to me, you
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did this to your son.
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You have a daughter.
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You have a fucking daughter.
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Look, I...
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I spoke about, I don't know, uh, being
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obsessed with me, you know?
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She was.
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She was not a well person.
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Grace, you have to help me.
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The whole world thinks I did this.
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My only chance is for people who know
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me to come forward.
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To help you?
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You actually think I'm gonna help you?
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You know my heart, you know my heart.
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I understand that you can no longer trust
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me to be the man you thought I
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was, I get that, but you certainly know
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that I would never take a human life,
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you know that.
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You know anything?
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My heart wouldn't allow it, nor would my
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ego, you know.
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It didn't do it.
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Whatever my thoughts and my transgressions, my love
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for you, for Henry, can you bring him?
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Please bring him.
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Please, Grace.
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He's gonna hear from you.
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Sorry, Grace.
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Perfect.
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And back it down.
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Very good.
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Which other animals have funny walks?
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The batfish, body like a tennis racket.
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They use their flap-like fingers for walking
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slowly in the seabed.
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So it's this.
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Perfect.
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Thank you.
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I appreciate it.
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I appreciate you taking the time.
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I'm really not comfortable with this.
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No, I understand.
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I signed a confidentiality agreement, and I'm risking
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my job even talking to you.
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You're...
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You're a good friend to him.
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You are, you were.
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If you're expecting me to actually help him
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at this point, after everything that just...
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No, I would never expect that if you
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were guilty.
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Which he is.
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And if he's not?
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Come on, Grace.
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He's not who we thought he was.
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How is?
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I know she had a son, a seven
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-year-old boy with a Wilms tumor.
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Jonathan was his doctor.
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They weren't discreet.
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They weren't even trying to be.
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The warnings didn't seem to matter.
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He wanted her, and he was willing to
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risk everything, which he clearly did.
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Well, he says that she wasn't well.
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He says that she was obsessed with him
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and that she was...
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I wouldn't know.
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If she was the obsessive-compulsive type, and
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I admit, I'm clutching at straws here.
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Grace, Jonathan cultivated it.
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The people becoming obsessed with him, he fed
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off that.
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His patients loved him, the parents, of course.
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The parents worshipped him.
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He was saving their children.
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He thrived on being the center of intense
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emotion in a very narcissistic and unhealthy way.
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It's like he never got the God complex
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memo.
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In fact, actually, sometimes I think it wasn't
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even about the patient.
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It was the emotion coming at him.
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He cared about his patients.
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He did.
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I saw it.
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Yeah, maybe.
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He cried for them.
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Maybe.
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They say psychopaths can't work in the hospital.
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Psychopaths?
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He's not a psychopath.
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Did you see Jonathan?
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Yeah.
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How was it?
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I'll tell you in a minute.
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It's called hero worship.
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Excuse me?
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People falling in love with their saviors.
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It's mostly a woman who is affected and
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the objects of the delusion are doctors, firefighters,
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policemen.
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It's also called rescue romance syndrome.
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Sounds like a load of crap.
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Well, it isn't.
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What does it got to do with anything?
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She fell in love with the doctor who
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saved her kid's life.
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What has that got to do with him
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killing her?
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According to Jonathan, since she took it to
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extremes.
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And?
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Crazy people do crazy things.
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Are you serious?
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Are you now believing that Jonathan is innocent?
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I'm just open to the idea.
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And are you open to the idea of
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you and Jonathan getting back together?
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No.
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Of course not.
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Don't be ridiculous.
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It's your move.
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He came to me for money.
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Excuse me?
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He said you were worried about paying for
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Riordan this year that you thought you might
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have to take Henry out.
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That's not true.
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I told him it would not be in
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Riordan's best economic interest to lose Henry.
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And he said, yeah, but you were worried
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about finances overall and that you would never
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come to speak to me about it.
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And I knew that to be true so
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that when he asked me not to say
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anything to you...
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How much did you give him?
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$500,000.
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I thought I was helping you and Henry.
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I mean, I know how private you are,
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Grace.
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I knew that you would not come to
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me.
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I mean, I was actually grateful to that
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son of a bitch.
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I even thanked him for giving me the
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opportunity to...
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I'm...
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I am so sorry.
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