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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,860 --> 00:00:06,660 Although fictionalized, the following film was inspired by actual events. 2 00:03:47,850 --> 00:03:48,850 Hey, Paul. 3 00:03:49,330 --> 00:03:50,910 Nobody kills himself on a grade. 4 00:03:51,910 --> 00:03:54,410 I mean, especially Kip. I don't think he passed a class his whole life. 5 00:03:56,430 --> 00:03:57,430 Hey, 6 00:03:58,670 --> 00:03:59,670 Paul. 7 00:04:00,270 --> 00:04:03,770 How'd you hear? 8 00:04:04,250 --> 00:04:05,790 I told him it'd be all right. 9 00:04:06,490 --> 00:04:09,090 Did he leave a note or anything? 10 00:04:10,830 --> 00:04:11,830 Hey, check it out. 11 00:04:22,969 --> 00:04:24,610 She has some nerve coming around. 12 00:04:26,070 --> 00:04:27,070 What are you doing? 13 00:04:28,010 --> 00:04:29,870 You can believe her showing her face around here. 14 00:04:30,690 --> 00:04:31,690 Believe it? 15 00:04:31,970 --> 00:04:32,970 Yeah, I believe it. 16 00:04:33,630 --> 00:04:35,170 The first thing today just made any sense. 17 00:05:03,950 --> 00:05:08,690 Today we were supposed to talk about the contrast in styles among writers who 18 00:05:08,690 --> 00:05:10,350 came to prominence during the Jazz Age. 19 00:05:11,470 --> 00:05:15,590 But at the moment, Hemingway and Fitzgerald seem pretty irrelevant to me. 20 00:05:16,710 --> 00:05:20,130 I'd like to share something with you I think is appropriate. 21 00:05:22,170 --> 00:05:23,410 Patsy, would you do the honors? 22 00:05:28,230 --> 00:05:30,910 The Buck in the Snow by Edna St. Vincent Millay. 23 00:05:31,630 --> 00:05:33,150 How strange a thing is death? 24 00:05:33,710 --> 00:05:37,190 Bringing to his knees, bringing to his antlers the buck in the snow. 25 00:05:37,850 --> 00:05:38,970 How strange a thing. 26 00:05:39,470 --> 00:05:40,630 Could I see you a moment, please? 27 00:05:41,530 --> 00:05:42,530 Go on. 28 00:05:45,070 --> 00:05:46,170 How strange a thing. 29 00:05:46,890 --> 00:05:48,990 A mile away by now. 30 00:05:49,910 --> 00:05:50,889 Right here. 31 00:05:50,890 --> 00:05:52,970 Miss Gill. 32 00:05:53,270 --> 00:05:54,270 Mrs. Gill, yes. 33 00:05:54,610 --> 00:05:57,750 I'm Detective Morse, San Diego PD. I just need to talk to you a couple of 34 00:05:57,750 --> 00:05:59,930 minutes. I'll let you through here. I'd like to see my office. 35 00:06:02,500 --> 00:06:03,500 Have a seat, please. 36 00:06:05,020 --> 00:06:09,580 Ma 'am, I'm doing some follow -up on the death of Kip Bausch. I understand you 37 00:06:09,580 --> 00:06:10,580 were one of his teachers. 38 00:06:10,740 --> 00:06:14,140 Yes. As a matter of fact, I would have had him this period for junior English. 39 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:15,700 Have you ever been to his house? 40 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,120 The night he died? 41 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:20,520 What about before that? 42 00:06:20,740 --> 00:06:22,580 Ever visit Kip at home prior to his death? 43 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:24,280 Yes, I have. 44 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:25,840 Is your husband aware of this? 45 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,140 Look, maybe you better tell me what this is about. 46 00:06:32,230 --> 00:06:36,210 Well, ma 'am, there have been allegations made by several of Kip's 47 00:06:36,210 --> 00:06:38,690 that you and Kip Oshmoyer were lovers. 48 00:06:40,410 --> 00:06:44,670 A high school is a rumor mill, detective. That was one of many stories 49 00:06:44,670 --> 00:06:45,289 the round. 50 00:06:45,290 --> 00:06:48,330 But I can assure you that's all it is, a rumor. 51 00:06:49,490 --> 00:06:53,750 Mrs. Gill, the people who are making these allegations are not saying they 52 00:06:53,750 --> 00:06:55,010 you were having sex with the boy. 53 00:06:55,330 --> 00:06:58,670 They're saying they went over to his house a couple of weekends in a row and 54 00:06:58,670 --> 00:07:00,090 watched you have sex with him. 55 00:07:04,010 --> 00:07:08,010 Look, I've been in trouble before, Mr. Turner. Got a few priors, but this time 56 00:07:08,010 --> 00:07:11,690 swear they got the wrong guy. I got the picture. Can you tell me how the window 57 00:07:11,690 --> 00:07:12,289 of Dr. 58 00:07:12,290 --> 00:07:13,810 Frank's Mercedes came to be broken? 59 00:07:14,290 --> 00:07:15,290 I have no idea. 60 00:07:16,770 --> 00:07:19,430 I think I was just the first guy the cops saw when they got to the scene. 61 00:07:19,830 --> 00:07:22,510 Story of my life. Wrong place, the wrong time. 62 00:07:27,890 --> 00:07:30,670 I'll call the DA's office, see what they're offering. 63 00:07:32,370 --> 00:07:33,470 Well, you got my number, right? 64 00:07:33,820 --> 00:07:34,820 I'll be in touch. 65 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,700 Everyone's entitled to a defense, Doreen. 66 00:07:41,060 --> 00:07:43,540 Oh, I need you to hold down the fort for a couple hours. I'm having my bow 67 00:07:43,540 --> 00:07:45,860 painted. I want to be there when they take her out of the war. Wait, wait, 68 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,120 Roger Gilger's called. He wants some representation for his wife. 69 00:07:49,420 --> 00:07:50,420 Who? 70 00:07:50,740 --> 00:07:53,100 Honestly, Owen, you really should start reading the paper again. 71 00:07:59,100 --> 00:08:00,280 Get my ex -wife on the phone. 72 00:08:01,990 --> 00:08:05,110 Paulette and Kip had been lovers for some time, or so the story goes. 73 00:08:05,590 --> 00:08:09,190 Rumors started circulating, and eventually the boys, Garrett Evans, Paul 74 00:08:09,190 --> 00:08:12,950 Preston, and Stuart Cardale, confronted Kip about it. Kip told them the rumors 75 00:08:12,950 --> 00:08:16,930 were true, and when they didn't believe him, they decided to prove it to them by 76 00:08:16,930 --> 00:08:19,910 arranging for them to come over and watch him having sex with him. 77 00:08:20,310 --> 00:08:21,830 This kid sounds like some victim. 78 00:08:22,310 --> 00:08:23,310 Why'd he kill himself? 79 00:08:23,450 --> 00:08:24,450 Nobody seems to know. 80 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,920 But the night of the funeral, the boys told their parents what they'd seen. The 81 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,020 parents called the police. The school fired Mrs. Gill a month later. Our paper 82 00:08:31,020 --> 00:08:33,340 broke the story. You say that with some pride, Roberta. 83 00:08:34,179 --> 00:08:36,419 Well, that's a big story, Owen. I mean, you know. 84 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,840 Attractive young teacher. Secret trips witnessed by the sons of prominent 85 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,059 citizens. Suicide. 86 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,360 Why the sudden interest? 87 00:08:49,180 --> 00:08:50,180 Oh, I don't know. 88 00:08:50,700 --> 00:08:53,160 I suppose I like a good scandal as much as the next guy. 89 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,400 No, you don't. 90 00:08:56,100 --> 00:08:59,180 You're her lawyer, aren't you? It's not 100 % yet. 91 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:00,840 I'm meeting her and her husband tonight. 92 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,780 Well, when they're ready to do an interview, I want to be your first call. 93 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,240 I'm not your ex -wife for nothing. 94 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,220 Well, I hate to burst your bubble, but I have a feeling this one's going to get 95 00:09:09,220 --> 00:09:09,999 settled quick. 96 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,000 Are you sure about that? 97 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,540 We hear some pretty important people have an interest in seeing this go all 98 00:09:14,540 --> 00:09:15,540 way. Like who? 99 00:09:15,820 --> 00:09:19,080 You know, Kip is from Briarcliff. The people out there have a lot of political 100 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,080 pull. 101 00:09:20,630 --> 00:09:23,790 I'm sure the district attorney's office will put up a big show of outrage. 102 00:09:24,010 --> 00:09:26,670 But at the end of the day, this is a rape case where the victim can't testify 103 00:09:26,670 --> 00:09:28,430 and the accused is a 28 -year -old female. 104 00:09:28,710 --> 00:09:30,030 They have bigger fish to fry. 105 00:09:30,390 --> 00:09:32,130 Of course, the press thinks she did it. 106 00:09:33,870 --> 00:09:36,990 Well, I suppose we do. I mean, the boys all pass polygraphs, you know. 107 00:09:37,830 --> 00:09:40,470 Besides, why would anyone make up a story like that? 108 00:09:43,490 --> 00:09:45,690 I've had the car a long time, but she's got real low mileage. 109 00:09:46,710 --> 00:09:48,190 I can't interest you in a trade -in? 110 00:09:48,470 --> 00:09:49,470 No. 111 00:09:49,820 --> 00:09:52,040 You don't need two cars. Besides, my wife can't drive a stick. 112 00:09:52,680 --> 00:09:55,380 She looks real clean. Tell you what, I'll grab my jacket and we'll take over 113 00:09:55,380 --> 00:09:56,380 stick. 114 00:09:57,100 --> 00:09:58,460 We've got to be at the lawyers at five. 115 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,840 You represented the guy at work on a DWI. 116 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,440 This guy said he was definitely over the limit, but somehow, all in turn, he got 117 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:05,560 the whole thing thrown out of court. 118 00:10:07,700 --> 00:10:09,680 What? That guy recognized me. 119 00:10:12,540 --> 00:10:15,060 You want to blow him off? We'll take the car down somewhere else and sell it. 120 00:10:15,100 --> 00:10:18,040 No. What I really want is for you not to sell the car. 121 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,720 Why don't we meet with this lawyer first and see how much it's going to be? I 122 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,920 already asked. It's $5 ,000 just to walk through the door. 123 00:10:24,580 --> 00:10:25,800 You ready to go, Mr. Gill? 124 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:29,200 Paulette, car doesn't mean anything to me. 125 00:10:29,740 --> 00:10:30,900 I know that's not true. 126 00:10:31,700 --> 00:10:32,700 I'll be right back. 127 00:10:46,250 --> 00:10:49,550 For those of you who have never had class with me before, let me tell you 128 00:10:49,550 --> 00:10:50,550 you can expect. 129 00:10:50,710 --> 00:10:51,810 It's junior English. 130 00:10:52,270 --> 00:10:54,590 We're going to be studying some of the great works of literature. 131 00:10:55,770 --> 00:10:58,690 This here is Kip Bauschmore. 132 00:10:58,950 --> 00:11:01,510 Hey, Kip. Oh, no, here's trouble. 133 00:11:01,930 --> 00:11:03,270 Nice to see you too, Patsy. 134 00:11:05,110 --> 00:11:06,110 Hi. Hi. 135 00:11:06,650 --> 00:11:07,650 Let's go find a seat. 136 00:11:08,230 --> 00:11:09,230 Go, now. 137 00:11:11,010 --> 00:11:12,250 I think I'm in love. 138 00:11:13,790 --> 00:11:15,790 One of the likeliest jokes on unemployment books, Meyer. 139 00:11:16,110 --> 00:11:18,590 How are you, Mrs. Gill? I'd separate him from his cronies. 140 00:11:18,970 --> 00:11:20,550 He's a lot less funny without an audience. 141 00:11:28,550 --> 00:11:29,550 Where are you going? 142 00:11:30,290 --> 00:11:31,390 You want me to move, right? 143 00:11:32,190 --> 00:11:36,570 I was just explaining my philosophy of teaching, Kip, and part of it is that 144 00:11:36,570 --> 00:11:39,630 every kid that walks through that door starts off with an A. 145 00:11:40,010 --> 00:11:42,970 That means that at this moment, you're one of my best students. 146 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,740 I'm sorry, Mr. Turner's with a client at the moment. 147 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,760 Mrs. Gill, on Friday you will be charged with two counts of sexual assault. 148 00:12:13,140 --> 00:12:14,600 Am I going to have to spend time in jail? 149 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,700 You will be out in an hour, tops. 150 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,380 Now, the good news is their case sounds very weak. I gather they don't have a 151 00:12:20,380 --> 00:12:23,720 shred of physical evidence, and obviously the victim can't testify. 152 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,580 That's just what the other lawyer said going into the school board hearing. 153 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,020 Mr. Gill, I understand you were out of town on the nights in question. Is that 154 00:12:30,020 --> 00:12:32,560 right? That's right. I have National Guard duty two weekends a month. 155 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:38,480 I do have an alibi for one of those nights I was at dinner with Patsy 156 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:39,800 Who's that, a girlfriend? 157 00:12:40,060 --> 00:12:41,080 Another one of my students. 158 00:12:43,580 --> 00:12:47,060 I understand you also spent some time with Kip outside of the school. 159 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,040 Would you describe him as promiscuous? 160 00:12:50,260 --> 00:12:51,740 What the hell kind of question is that? 161 00:12:52,900 --> 00:12:53,900 An important one. 162 00:12:54,100 --> 00:12:55,760 Promiscuity can be a defense on sexual assault. 163 00:12:56,020 --> 00:12:57,160 That's going to be your defense? 164 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,760 She did it, but it's okay because he wasn't a virgin? Mr. Gill, look. No, you 165 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,650 look. I thought I explained this over the phone. My wife didn't do this. These 166 00:13:04,650 --> 00:13:05,650 people are on a witch hunt. 167 00:13:05,970 --> 00:13:09,310 And we need a lawyer who's willing to take them on. Mr. Gill, I understand 168 00:13:09,310 --> 00:13:10,310 you have both been through hell. 169 00:13:10,850 --> 00:13:14,510 Now, if you want something for your pain and suffering, I suggest you contact a 170 00:13:14,510 --> 00:13:15,349 civil attorney. 171 00:13:15,350 --> 00:13:16,590 I'm a criminal defense lawyer. 172 00:13:16,930 --> 00:13:19,710 My job is to see your wife acquitted by whatever means the law allows. 173 00:13:21,770 --> 00:13:23,510 It's been really tough on Roger. 174 00:13:24,010 --> 00:13:27,150 After I was fired, he had to drop out of school and get a job. 175 00:13:27,430 --> 00:13:29,270 And the publicity has... 176 00:13:30,500 --> 00:13:31,880 It's been really hard to take. 177 00:13:32,820 --> 00:13:34,860 Well, I can tell you it's only going to get worse. 178 00:13:35,740 --> 00:13:38,140 That's why I'd like to explore the possibility of a plea bargain. 179 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:39,480 But I'm innocent. 180 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,140 You didn't ask me that. 181 00:13:41,580 --> 00:13:42,580 But I am. 182 00:13:44,060 --> 00:13:47,060 Sometimes I think those of us in law enforcement can lose track of what's 183 00:13:47,060 --> 00:13:50,240 important. Like being able to send your kids off to school without worrying 184 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,300 about them being molested. 185 00:13:51,820 --> 00:13:56,340 So am I concerned that the prosecution of Paulette Gill is a waste of time and 186 00:13:56,340 --> 00:13:57,340 money? No. 187 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,960 In fact, I would say the message I'm getting is quite the opposite. 188 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:06,600 Hold 189 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:14,020 it. 190 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,660 Do you know Earl Cleaver? He heads our sex crimes division. 191 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:17,960 By reputation. 192 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,740 Your reputation precedes you also, Mr. Turner. 193 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:20,960 Shall we find a room? 194 00:14:23,220 --> 00:14:25,820 I understand your office initially declined to press charges? 195 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,300 Only because of the difficulties associated with prosecuting without 196 00:14:29,300 --> 00:14:32,540 testimony. Since then, new evidence has surfaced that convinced us that this 197 00:14:32,540 --> 00:14:33,540 prosecution was warranted. 198 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,680 I was just telling Earl what a fool it was this morning. 199 00:14:41,100 --> 00:14:43,640 Given the nature of this case, I think it's safe to say we should all 200 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:44,880 intense media scrutiny. 201 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,360 Yes, well, it's good to see you're doing all you can to minimize that, Earl. 202 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,100 Given all the hoopla, I'm surprised you didn't assign a second chair. 203 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,960 Oh, uh, Hugh is the second chair. 204 00:14:55,450 --> 00:14:56,870 I'm the lead prosecutor on this. 205 00:14:58,430 --> 00:14:59,450 You mean you personally? 206 00:15:00,330 --> 00:15:04,930 Hugh is a fine prosecutor, but the DA and I both felt that given the public 207 00:15:04,930 --> 00:15:07,430 interest in this case, the most experienced hand should be put on. 208 00:15:07,950 --> 00:15:10,730 But we're getting ahead of ourselves, and we're here to avoid going to trial. 209 00:15:11,790 --> 00:15:12,790 Here's our offer. 210 00:15:13,570 --> 00:15:17,450 She pleads guilty to one felony count. We drop the other charge. We recommend 211 00:15:17,450 --> 00:15:19,130 that she does two years probation. 212 00:15:19,770 --> 00:15:22,090 And we'd also want some guarantee that she never teaches school again. 213 00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:23,790 Are you serious? 214 00:15:24,170 --> 00:15:25,170 It's a fair offer. 215 00:15:25,310 --> 00:15:27,930 If this goes to trial, we'll be asking for the maximum on both counts. She 216 00:15:27,930 --> 00:15:29,150 do four years. Oh, come on. 217 00:15:29,650 --> 00:15:32,590 There's no evidence that this relationship, if it even existed, was 218 00:15:32,590 --> 00:15:33,590 consensual. 219 00:15:33,850 --> 00:15:35,750 That's not informed consent, is it? 220 00:15:36,770 --> 00:15:41,130 We like our case, Mr. Turner. We have three eyewitnesses. These boys and nice 221 00:15:41,130 --> 00:15:44,930 kids. Good, solid families and nothing to gain by lying. She'll impress the 222 00:15:44,930 --> 00:15:45,909 out of the grand jury. 223 00:15:45,910 --> 00:15:49,170 There's also a statement she gave the police on it. She acknowledges she was 224 00:15:49,170 --> 00:15:52,090 the house twice in November to help him on some personal problems. 225 00:15:52,730 --> 00:15:53,709 She did it. 226 00:15:53,710 --> 00:15:54,810 We know she did it. 227 00:15:55,050 --> 00:15:56,070 And it's going to be easy to prove. 228 00:15:56,410 --> 00:15:59,230 Well, I still can't take her on offer like that. She claims she's innocent. 229 00:16:00,190 --> 00:16:01,290 I guess we'll see in court. 230 00:16:12,490 --> 00:16:13,369 Seen any good? 231 00:16:13,370 --> 00:16:14,370 He was outstanding. 232 00:16:15,230 --> 00:16:16,850 Hasn't had a lot of trial work, though, lately. 233 00:16:17,270 --> 00:16:18,270 Burnt out? 234 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,240 Miss Gill. 235 00:16:31,020 --> 00:16:32,420 Did I tell you on TV again? 236 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,220 Yeah, I'm getting to be a real celebrity, Danny. 237 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,400 I'll tell you, it's not much fun. 238 00:16:39,820 --> 00:16:42,200 Well, at least you look good. I mean, that's something, right? 239 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:47,400 What's with the book? 240 00:16:47,660 --> 00:16:49,180 Don't tell me you're back in summer school. 241 00:16:50,500 --> 00:16:51,500 Afraid so. 242 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,840 Now I know what happens. The weather turns nice, suddenly my grades go south. 243 00:16:55,939 --> 00:16:58,360 You know, I was going to ask you, do you think you could help me with my 244 00:16:58,360 --> 00:16:59,360 homework again this summer? 245 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,220 Oh, gee, Danny, I don't think that's such a hot idea. 246 00:17:03,900 --> 00:17:04,900 Danny! 247 00:17:05,380 --> 00:17:06,358 Oh, hell. 248 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,160 Get in the house. All I was doing was talking to him. Get in the house. Don't 249 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,359 talk back to me. I will deal with you later. 250 00:17:12,420 --> 00:17:14,200 I told you to leave him alone. 251 00:17:14,819 --> 00:17:18,240 He talked to me first. I don't care if he did talk to you. Nothing since you 252 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,960 it answered. This is my fault. What's going on? It's okay, Roger. 253 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,200 Your wife. 254 00:17:22,220 --> 00:17:25,839 was talking to my boy. I told her last time I would call the police, and I 255 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,339 Well, maybe what your boy needs is a leash. Roger, that's not necessary. 256 00:17:28,660 --> 00:17:31,460 Look, you're on my property, lady. Now get the hell off before I call the cops. 257 00:17:31,620 --> 00:17:32,620 You know something? 258 00:17:32,740 --> 00:17:37,360 I cannot wait until they lock you up. People like you do not belong in decent 259 00:17:37,360 --> 00:17:38,500 company. Roger. 260 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,320 You, get out. 261 00:17:45,220 --> 00:17:48,380 I wish you wouldn't get into it with her, Roger. You know what she's like. 262 00:17:51,020 --> 00:17:52,020 I'm glad you're home. 263 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:53,380 I'm dying to call Owen. 264 00:17:58,460 --> 00:17:59,580 Trial starts in eight weeks. 265 00:18:01,340 --> 00:18:02,700 You called him? That's right. 266 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,900 I knew he wasn't going to be able to make any deals. 267 00:18:07,420 --> 00:18:08,760 I figured I'd spare you the grief. 268 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,700 I don't want to be spared, all right? 269 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,600 Roger, I'm the one who's going on trial. 270 00:18:20,090 --> 00:18:23,010 You sure seem relaxed about it. What is that supposed to mean? 271 00:18:23,230 --> 00:18:24,410 Well, you're talking to Danny again. 272 00:18:24,730 --> 00:18:27,610 Despite what his mother told you, despite what I told you, you're talking 273 00:18:27,610 --> 00:18:29,030 again. Well, he initiated it. 274 00:18:29,230 --> 00:18:31,310 The law says he can't initiate anything, Paulette. 275 00:18:31,730 --> 00:18:34,930 The law says that you're the adult. Whatever happens is your fault. 276 00:18:36,530 --> 00:18:39,870 I'm not going to stop being a human being because of what somebody might 277 00:18:41,470 --> 00:18:42,970 All right, have it your way, Paulette. 278 00:18:43,570 --> 00:18:46,530 Just remember those people whose opinions you're so blithely dismissing. 279 00:18:47,070 --> 00:18:48,850 That's who's going to be sitting in that jury box. 280 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,060 I hope your coach isn't going to give you grief about missing football 281 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,520 He doesn't have much choice. 282 00:19:17,820 --> 00:19:19,980 If I don't get my grades up, I won't be on the team. 283 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,340 You know, Kip, you have a real flair for language. 284 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:27,680 Spelling, however. 285 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,480 I am usually getting off of practice about this time. 286 00:19:38,060 --> 00:19:39,300 Noticed you're always still here. 287 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,620 A lot of kids need extra help this term. 288 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:44,880 Your husband doesn't mind? 289 00:19:46,060 --> 00:19:49,340 I mean, if I were married to a woman who looked like you, I'd want you home. 290 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,860 Not hanging out with a bunch of jerky teenagers. 291 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,220 Roger's in grad school. 292 00:19:54,580 --> 00:19:56,700 He spends most of his nights at the library. 293 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:05,240 You know, Kip, I encourage you guys to say whatever's on your mind. 294 00:20:05,980 --> 00:20:08,140 But I think some things should be off limits. 295 00:20:08,740 --> 00:20:11,620 I'm sorry, Mrs. Gill. I meant it as a compliment, really. 296 00:20:13,500 --> 00:20:14,500 I'm still your teacher. 297 00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:16,240 And I'm a married woman. 298 00:20:17,120 --> 00:20:18,460 Don't compliment me too much. 299 00:20:49,870 --> 00:20:50,870 Hi, Mrs. Newbeck. 300 00:20:51,150 --> 00:20:52,150 Patsy Newbeck? 301 00:20:52,430 --> 00:20:54,690 Yeah? My name is Fred Cobb. 302 00:20:54,950 --> 00:20:57,490 I'm an investigator working for Paulette Gill. 303 00:20:58,190 --> 00:21:00,030 I was wondering if I might ask you a few questions. 304 00:21:00,830 --> 00:21:05,870 Mrs. Gill was telling me that you and she had dinner on November 17th last 305 00:21:06,110 --> 00:21:09,090 We had dinner together last night. There's not one that really sticks out. 306 00:21:09,150 --> 00:21:13,890 Sorry. Now, Mrs. Newbeck, Mrs. Gill also told me that when she was fired, you 307 00:21:13,890 --> 00:21:17,310 went to the school principal and told him that these boys had to be lying. 308 00:21:18,060 --> 00:21:19,880 You think we could talk a little bit about that? 309 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:24,659 All right. 310 00:21:24,660 --> 00:21:25,860 I'll come in for a moment. 311 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,080 Thank you. 312 00:21:30,620 --> 00:21:31,840 Maria, por favor. 313 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,660 Look, it's true that I went to the principal. 314 00:21:37,180 --> 00:21:39,460 But just to say that I didn't believe these guys. 315 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,600 I never said that I had any firsthand information about what they might or 316 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,600 not have seen. 317 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,280 But you did have dinner with her on one of the nights in question? 318 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:50,520 I might have. 319 00:21:50,780 --> 00:21:51,860 I just don't remember. 320 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,020 I'm sorry, Mr. Cobb. I don't think I'm going to be of much help. 321 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,280 What's going on here? 322 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:57,659 Who are you? 323 00:21:57,660 --> 00:21:58,660 Fred Cobb. 324 00:21:58,700 --> 00:21:59,780 Mr. Newbeck, is it? 325 00:22:00,140 --> 00:22:02,220 He's a private investigator for Paulette, Daddy. 326 00:22:04,300 --> 00:22:05,300 I think you'd better go. 327 00:22:06,020 --> 00:22:08,740 You have no business sneaking around the neighborhood trying to catch people off 328 00:22:08,740 --> 00:22:10,200 guard. But I invited him in. Stay out of it. 329 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,280 My attorney is Buddy Reston of Reston and Myers. 330 00:22:13,540 --> 00:22:14,540 Yeah, write that down. 331 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,940 You have any more questions for my daughter, you give him a call. 332 00:22:20,650 --> 00:22:23,150 Oh, and thanks for your time, Miss Newbeck. 333 00:22:36,890 --> 00:22:41,150 Let me have Evie Boshmore, please. 334 00:22:44,930 --> 00:22:46,590 Evie! Don Newbeck. 335 00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:50,150 Listen, I think it might be a good idea if we got everybody together. 336 00:22:51,290 --> 00:22:54,350 Hey, let's not overreact here. It's not like she wasn't going to put on a 337 00:22:54,350 --> 00:22:58,130 defense. So I spoke to Earl Cleaver, let him know what's going on. I also spoke 338 00:22:58,130 --> 00:23:02,050 to my own attorney, who tells me that we're under no legal obligation to 339 00:23:02,050 --> 00:23:05,290 cooperate. What about witnesses planning on testifying for the prosecution? 340 00:23:05,690 --> 00:23:06,690 Makes no difference. 341 00:23:06,730 --> 00:23:09,990 Suey and Garrett are under 18. They can't even be contacted without your 342 00:23:09,990 --> 00:23:14,300 consent. But Paul just turned 18, Don. He still has to give his consent, 343 00:23:14,500 --> 00:23:16,480 Unless her attorney gets a court order. 344 00:23:18,820 --> 00:23:20,660 Which Cleaver thought was very unlikely. 345 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,700 Would you excuse me for just a moment? 346 00:23:23,620 --> 00:23:25,840 I'm so sorry you all got dragged into this. 347 00:23:26,500 --> 00:23:28,600 Evie, you put that thought out of your head. 348 00:23:29,260 --> 00:23:32,900 Garrett has told me many times that he has no regrets. And Stewie and Paul feel 349 00:23:32,900 --> 00:23:33,900 the same way. 350 00:23:34,020 --> 00:23:35,180 Hey, where are you going? 351 00:23:36,580 --> 00:23:39,040 Out. Without saying hello to our guests? 352 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,079 I'm in a hurry. 353 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,080 Suit yourself. 354 00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:44,280 But the problem will still be here when you get back. 355 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:50,020 Look, Daddy, for the last time, I don't know anything about Paulette and Kip. I 356 00:23:50,020 --> 00:23:51,020 think you do know something. 357 00:23:51,380 --> 00:23:54,900 The way you and that Gill woman palled around, hell, you probably know 358 00:23:54,900 --> 00:23:58,320 everything. Patsy, do you understand that it's not just about Kip's family 359 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,040 anymore? Do you know that if Mrs. Gill is found not guilty, she can turn around 360 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,740 and sue the boys and their families, our friends, for everything they own? 361 00:24:06,020 --> 00:24:08,200 And there's a bigger picture here, Patsy. There really is. 362 00:24:08,540 --> 00:24:12,560 Somebody has got to protect our way of life from sleazy influences like that. 363 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,620 you understand that if you go to a public school that is better and safer 364 00:24:15,620 --> 00:24:17,740 most private ones, you think that happens by accident? 365 00:24:18,420 --> 00:24:21,780 Well, if it happened in Briarcliff, Daddy, I'm sure you had something to do 366 00:24:21,780 --> 00:24:22,780 it. 367 00:24:33,540 --> 00:24:34,540 Owen? 368 00:24:35,260 --> 00:24:36,260 Hey, Fred Owen. 369 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:37,920 How'd it go this week? 370 00:24:38,410 --> 00:24:39,410 Same as last. 371 00:24:39,450 --> 00:24:42,370 Must have talked to about two dozen kids, some of the teachers, too. 372 00:24:43,150 --> 00:24:44,150 Nobody knows anything. 373 00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:46,650 Did you get through the DA's file yet? 374 00:24:47,490 --> 00:24:51,290 Almost. And I'll tell you, they're not having the same trouble we are. 375 00:24:51,910 --> 00:24:55,050 I've defended murderers who didn't have this many people saying bad things about 376 00:24:55,050 --> 00:24:56,050 them. 377 00:24:56,970 --> 00:25:00,210 Mrs. Gill frequently wore tight -fitting sweaters to school where you could see 378 00:25:00,210 --> 00:25:01,210 her nipples. 379 00:25:01,410 --> 00:25:04,790 Mrs. Gill had parties for students in her home where she served margaritas. 380 00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:06,830 Mrs. Gill gave Kip... 381 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,600 Roger Gill told me this thing was shaping up as a real witch hunt. 382 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:12,960 So what now? 383 00:25:13,820 --> 00:25:17,240 Once you get past all the hearsay and innuendo, Cleaver's whole case really 384 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,820 comes down to the testimony of these boys. 385 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,900 I think our defense has to be that they are just flat out lying. 386 00:25:22,180 --> 00:25:23,180 What's their motive? 387 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,820 Well, their friend had just killed himself. Somebody had to take the heat, 388 00:25:25,900 --> 00:25:29,520 right? These boys are real Eagle Scouts, so even if they were looking for a 389 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,860 scapegoat, it's hard to believe they'd commit perjury to do it. 390 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,400 Kip died on Thursday. His funeral was on Monday. 391 00:25:35,620 --> 00:25:37,500 That gave him three days to cook this thing up. 392 00:25:38,250 --> 00:25:41,030 From now on, I want you to do what you can find out about where they were that 393 00:25:41,030 --> 00:25:42,610 weekend. Yeah, I'll do my best. 394 00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:46,750 I haven't seen you this worked up in quite a while, though. 395 00:25:48,330 --> 00:25:52,230 You know, I don't mind a fair fight, but these rich folks are ganging up on our 396 00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:53,870 client, Fred. That irritates me. 397 00:25:54,090 --> 00:25:56,870 They may be ganging up on her, but that doesn't make her innocent. 398 00:25:58,030 --> 00:25:59,170 You have doubts about that? 399 00:25:59,570 --> 00:26:01,190 She seems like a real nice lady. 400 00:26:02,150 --> 00:26:05,450 On the other hand, it's been my experience that there's usually at least 401 00:26:05,450 --> 00:26:07,310 little fire at the center of this much smoke. 402 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,380 I don't want you to be concerned about this lack of cooperation. It's not 403 00:26:14,380 --> 00:26:17,100 unusual. And Cobb will keep talking to kids right through the trial. 404 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,600 What about Patsy? 405 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,080 She wasn't too helpful. But calling her presented certain problems anyway. 406 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:23,579 Like what? 407 00:26:23,580 --> 00:26:26,440 She's not a perfect alibi. You could have had dinner with Patsy and then gone 408 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,440 over to Kip's. 409 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,160 And I think we want to soft -pedal your extracurricular relationship with these 410 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,160 kids as much as possible. 411 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,120 Now, a number of people have commented on Kip's flirtatiousness with you. I'd 412 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:38,120 like to know a little more about that. 413 00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:41,500 It was strictly a teasing kind of thing. 414 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,080 For example, there was one day last term, we hadn't really spent much time 415 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,300 together, so you can imagine my surprise when he blurts out, I would kill the 416 00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:51,660 guy who would make love to you. 417 00:26:54,060 --> 00:26:55,740 What is that supposed to mean? 418 00:26:57,020 --> 00:26:58,700 That's my new pickup line, Mrs. Gill. 419 00:26:58,940 --> 00:26:59,940 What do you think? 420 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,340 I think a girl your age would probably prefer a less direct approach. 421 00:27:04,780 --> 00:27:06,260 Guess I'll have to keep practicing? 422 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,560 Yeah. 423 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,740 You never reported this behavior to anyone? 424 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,240 If I reported every boy for every comment he'd made, I would have spent 425 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,680 time in the detention office. 426 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,280 I understand, but subsequently you went to his home alone in the evening. 427 00:27:24,660 --> 00:27:28,060 Now, the prosecution can argue that you were responding to a sexual invitation 428 00:27:28,060 --> 00:27:28,879 from him. 429 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,920 What nobody has mentioned yet is that there was another side to Kip. 430 00:27:33,500 --> 00:27:36,400 When he was alone with me, he was completely different. 431 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:38,120 Serious, sensitive. 432 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,320 That was the side I was interested in. 433 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,620 I don't think he believes me. 434 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,300 It's not his job to believe you. 435 00:27:46,580 --> 00:27:49,220 It's a pickup line business. You never told me about that either. 436 00:27:50,660 --> 00:27:52,340 You never told me he said anything that overt. 437 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:53,679 Didn't I? 438 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,640 No. I guess I was just embarrassed. 439 00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:57,300 I'm sorry. 440 00:27:58,020 --> 00:28:01,960 Listen, it's still light. You want to stop and get some coffee or ice cream or 441 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:02,960 something? 442 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:04,599 No, Paula. 443 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,700 I just want to get home. 444 00:28:10,380 --> 00:28:14,280 This is Jake McGee here at the San Diego County Courthouse where the crowd is 445 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,120 building and it's the first day of the Paulette Hill sex trial. The doors of 446 00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:19,460 courthouse will soon be opening. 447 00:28:19,980 --> 00:28:24,780 This is Mary Kay Andrade reporting live from the San Diego County Courthouse. 448 00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:28,920 This is Joel Friedman. Okay, here's a sound check. This is the first day of 449 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,560 sensational Paulette Hill sexual assault trial. 450 00:28:49,740 --> 00:28:51,180 Relax, Roger. We have plenty of time. 451 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,160 I'm going to wait outside. 452 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,480 So today's a big day, huh? 453 00:29:19,340 --> 00:29:21,100 Yeah, we'll be leaving for court soon. 454 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,040 Good luck. 455 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,240 Thank you. 456 00:29:32,580 --> 00:29:33,580 So how's school? 457 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,120 Well, actually, I'm running for student council. 458 00:29:38,420 --> 00:29:39,420 Can you believe it? 459 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,540 Danny, that's wonderful. 460 00:29:41,060 --> 00:29:45,120 Yeah, I mean, it's just for class rep, but actually I got to give a speech this 461 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,260 afternoon. I had to come up with a platform and everything. 462 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,600 Uh, do you want to take a look at it? 463 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,320 Oh. 464 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,060 Now's not really a good time. 465 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,800 Besides, your mom would kill me. 466 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,680 She already left for work. 467 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,640 Please, Miss Gill, it'll only take a second. 468 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,440 All right. 469 00:30:12,980 --> 00:30:14,120 Paulette, for crying out loud! 470 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,300 It's all right, Roger. His mom's at work. I'll just be one minute. 471 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,600 You know, it's great. 472 00:30:27,420 --> 00:30:32,860 Kids really respond to her, huh? 473 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,480 Oh, yeah. 474 00:30:35,020 --> 00:30:36,440 My wife loves teaching that one. 475 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:38,820 She's got a real gift for it. 476 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,000 The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 477 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,560 I do. 478 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,960 Would you state your name for the record? 479 00:31:06,340 --> 00:31:07,800 My name is Evie Bauschmoyer. 480 00:31:08,340 --> 00:31:12,140 I live on Bridal Ridge Road with my husband Wayne and my daughter Tracy. 481 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,940 My son Kip also lived there with us. 482 00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:21,100 Mrs. Bauschmoyer, I know this is painful, but would you describe how you 483 00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:22,360 learned that Kip had killed himself? 484 00:31:25,980 --> 00:31:27,920 I'd picked my daughter Tracy up from school. 485 00:31:28,810 --> 00:31:31,090 I had just finished grocery shopping. 486 00:31:38,050 --> 00:31:39,050 Tracy? 487 00:31:39,510 --> 00:31:41,210 Is your brother in this room? 488 00:31:41,650 --> 00:31:44,270 If that boy skips school again, I don't know what I'm going to do. 489 00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:49,310 Tracy? 490 00:31:51,630 --> 00:31:52,630 Tracy? 491 00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:03,220 He's sick, honey. 492 00:32:03,500 --> 00:32:04,500 Come with me. 493 00:32:04,940 --> 00:32:05,940 Tracy, now! 494 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,520 Call a doctor. 495 00:32:08,980 --> 00:32:12,420 I called my office. I asked them to notify the authorities. 496 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,700 I needed to deal with my daughter right then. 497 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,320 Then I phoned my husband. 498 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,920 Shortly after this, people began to arrive? 499 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:22,680 Yes. 500 00:32:23,060 --> 00:32:24,520 By then, it had been on the news. 501 00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:28,820 Did you see the defendant, Paulette Gill, at your house that night? 502 00:32:30,260 --> 00:32:31,260 Yes, I did. 503 00:32:31,470 --> 00:32:34,130 And at Kip's funeral the following Monday, did you see her there, too? 504 00:32:36,330 --> 00:32:37,550 Not at the funeral, no. 505 00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:40,310 But afterwards, there was an open house. 506 00:32:41,210 --> 00:32:43,070 I'm Paulette Gill, Mrs. Bauschmoyer. 507 00:32:43,790 --> 00:32:45,010 I had Kip her English. 508 00:32:45,790 --> 00:32:47,990 Well, thank you for coming. 509 00:32:48,790 --> 00:32:51,290 I know Kip wasn't very popular with his teachers. 510 00:32:52,010 --> 00:32:54,270 Well, maybe that's because they didn't really know him. 511 00:32:55,250 --> 00:32:57,610 I can tell you he was very special to me. 512 00:32:57,950 --> 00:33:00,250 She told you he was very special to her? 513 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,520 That's what she said. 514 00:33:01,820 --> 00:33:02,820 No further questions. 515 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,780 Mrs. Bouchemoyer, isn't it true you blame this woman for the death of your 516 00:33:15,020 --> 00:33:16,300 I wouldn't say that, no. 517 00:33:17,540 --> 00:33:19,840 Naturally, we wonder what influence she may have had. 518 00:33:20,420 --> 00:33:24,760 Isn't it also true that when the DA's office initially declined to file 519 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,320 you called persistently until that decision was reversed? 520 00:33:28,110 --> 00:33:30,270 My son had been molested, Mr. Turner. 521 00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:31,710 How do you know? 522 00:33:32,690 --> 00:33:34,410 I have the word of people I trust. 523 00:33:35,570 --> 00:33:38,870 Plus, my own impressions of her conduct at the open house. 524 00:33:39,370 --> 00:33:45,930 I believe you said she came by to pay her respects, told you she'd taught your 525 00:33:45,930 --> 00:33:48,850 son like him personally, and gave you a hug. 526 00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:50,830 That's correct. 527 00:33:51,210 --> 00:33:53,950 What is it exactly you find so peculiar about that, ma 'am? 528 00:33:55,290 --> 00:33:56,330 It was obvious. 529 00:33:56,700 --> 00:33:59,000 She thought of herself more as a friend than a teacher. 530 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,000 So you find it strange that she liked Kip enough to consider him a friend? 531 00:34:04,620 --> 00:34:05,780 Objection argumentative. 532 00:34:06,220 --> 00:34:07,220 Sustained. 533 00:34:07,940 --> 00:34:11,159 Mrs. Bauchmoyer, there were other teachers at Kip's funeral, weren't 534 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:12,440 At the funeral? 535 00:34:13,060 --> 00:34:14,219 Not at the open house. 536 00:34:14,820 --> 00:34:19,480 On the nights of November 17 and 24, do you have any knowledge of Paulette Gill 537 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,480 coming to your home? 538 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,199 Kip's room was at the other end of the house. 539 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,260 We wouldn't have any idea what was going on in there. 540 00:34:26,620 --> 00:34:29,900 You had a dog. Wouldn't your dog bark if a stranger came to your home at night? 541 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,480 I suppose she would. 542 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,679 Do you recall her barking on either of those nights? 543 00:34:35,420 --> 00:34:36,420 No. 544 00:34:46,460 --> 00:34:49,560 You think they'd at least send someone out to let us know what's going on, you 545 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:50,560 know? 546 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,320 I don't know how you guys could all be so casual about this. 547 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,960 Paul, come on, all right? We're all in the same boat. Yeah. 548 00:34:56,510 --> 00:34:58,210 You know, it's starting to sound like you saw you're even here. 549 00:34:58,890 --> 00:34:59,890 I'm not saying that. 550 00:35:00,850 --> 00:35:04,190 Just, you're stressed out by all this, you know? Okay. 551 00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:06,870 Look, let's just not forget why we're here, all right? 552 00:35:07,090 --> 00:35:08,210 Yeah, we're here for him, man. 553 00:35:08,510 --> 00:35:09,510 That's right. 554 00:35:09,810 --> 00:35:10,810 We're here for Kip. 555 00:35:15,590 --> 00:35:19,450 Come on. I don't believe it, not for a second. You saw how she was with me just 556 00:35:19,450 --> 00:35:21,890 now. The same way in class, always looking at me. 557 00:35:22,090 --> 00:35:22,868 That's Paul. 558 00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:24,430 She's like that with everybody. No, she's not. 559 00:35:24,910 --> 00:35:26,910 Look, I knew she was interested in me from the beginning. 560 00:35:27,170 --> 00:35:30,810 One night I hit on her, and she's like, oh, no, I'm a teacher and I'm married. 561 00:35:30,910 --> 00:35:31,910 So I figured I was wrong. 562 00:35:32,030 --> 00:35:34,830 Then a few weeks later, she asked me to go have coffee with her. She started 563 00:35:34,830 --> 00:35:36,950 telling me about how her husband doesn't understand her. 564 00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:40,730 That was a month ago, boys. I've been having her ever since. Come on. Look, I 565 00:35:40,730 --> 00:35:42,970 know it's hard to believe, but it's... It's impossible to believe. 566 00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:44,649 Wait a minute. 567 00:35:44,650 --> 00:35:45,650 Wait a minute. 568 00:35:46,290 --> 00:35:48,770 This time, you've got to put your money where your mouth is. 569 00:35:56,839 --> 00:35:57,839 Yeah, who are you? 570 00:35:58,260 --> 00:36:01,480 Name's Fred Cobb. I'm a private investigator working on the Paul Ed Gill 571 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,540 Are you Mr. Groom? Yeah, that's me, but I don't know what I can tell you because 572 00:36:06,540 --> 00:36:07,960 I only went to school there for about a year. 573 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,880 Say, how'd you happen to come talk to me? 574 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,680 Mrs. Gill gave me a list of students she thought might have something good to 575 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:18,618 say about her. 576 00:36:18,620 --> 00:36:21,420 Mrs. Gill was all right to me. She tried to get me to stay in school. 577 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,720 I wouldn't want to testify or anything. 578 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,400 Come on. 579 00:36:34,900 --> 00:36:41,380 These other guys, Garrett, Paul, and Stewie, were part of the most popular 580 00:36:41,380 --> 00:36:42,380 in the school. 581 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,100 Kip had been part of that crew too, but there was some kind of falling out. 582 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,600 And it was around this time that we all started hearing rumors about him and 583 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:52,359 Mrs. Gill. 584 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,520 Then Kip kills himself. 585 00:36:55,180 --> 00:36:58,560 And all I know is that the night after Kip died, Garrett, Paul, and Stewie and 586 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,960 bunch of other kids went out to the ice house. The ice house. 587 00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:02,218 What's that? 588 00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:06,000 It's a factory out near Miramar, and kids from school used to go out there 589 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,000 party. 590 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,740 I heard that's where they decided to make this up. 591 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,960 I talked to a lot of kids this summer. 592 00:37:13,180 --> 00:37:14,660 Why haven't I heard about this before? 593 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,540 Well, I know I wasn't in any right to come forward. 594 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,680 Firstly, I don't care what people think, but my parents had just joined a 595 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,080 country club. Wait a minute. 596 00:37:23,710 --> 00:37:27,150 Are you saying you felt that you were discouraged from coming forward? 597 00:37:28,170 --> 00:37:30,650 You guys really are in the dark about this, aren't you? 598 00:37:32,030 --> 00:37:34,610 Kip's family and the families of the other three, they've had their own 599 00:37:34,610 --> 00:37:39,650 investigation going on since last year. And in Briarcliff, the word's out. 600 00:37:40,190 --> 00:37:41,970 You're either with them or against them. 601 00:37:42,610 --> 00:37:45,110 I honestly don't see any grounds for delay, Mr. Turner. 602 00:37:45,420 --> 00:37:48,580 Your Honor, I now have reason to believe that much of this new evidence that Mr. 603 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,600 Cleaver claimed as his reason for filing charges comes from a group of citizens 604 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,840 who have a vested interest in the outcome of this case. As I understand 605 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,580 those people are doing are trying to protect themselves from any possible 606 00:37:57,580 --> 00:37:58,580 action from Mrs. Gill. 607 00:37:58,820 --> 00:38:00,080 There's nothing illegal about that. 608 00:38:00,420 --> 00:38:04,040 And I hardly think the existence of this one boy proves widespread coercion, Mr. 609 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,740 Turner. Your Honor, this one boy's statement alone raises questions about 610 00:38:07,740 --> 00:38:10,000 credibility of the rest of the boys who are going to be testifying here. 611 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,120 What possible reason could I have for filing charges if I had any questions 612 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,120 about their credibility? 613 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,440 Well, the guy that beat Bouchemoyer off your back, didn't it, Earl? 614 00:38:16,740 --> 00:38:19,140 The way I figure it, this trial's a win -win proposition for you. 615 00:38:19,460 --> 00:38:20,840 My job is simple. 616 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,320 I look at the evidence, and I look at the statute. 617 00:38:23,620 --> 00:38:27,460 If I get a match, I prosecute. Your request for continuance is denied. 618 00:38:28,380 --> 00:38:31,460 The only thing that's relevant here is where the defendant was on the nights of 619 00:38:31,460 --> 00:38:34,620 November 17th and 24th, and that's what we're going to find out right now. 620 00:38:39,069 --> 00:38:42,850 Mr. Preston, what was your reaction when Kip Bauschmeyer first told you of his 621 00:38:42,850 --> 00:38:43,910 relationship with Mrs. Gill? 622 00:38:44,570 --> 00:38:46,210 It just didn't seem possible. 623 00:38:46,990 --> 00:38:50,670 I mean, I'd seen the way they were in class, and I knew she liked him, but I 624 00:38:50,670 --> 00:38:52,290 still thought, she's a teacher, no way. 625 00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:55,070 How did Kip respond to your disbelief, Mr. Preston? 626 00:38:55,790 --> 00:38:59,070 He said, I guess I'm just going to have to prove it to you then. 627 00:39:00,850 --> 00:39:03,530 Let's talk about the weekend of November 17th. 628 00:39:03,770 --> 00:39:05,650 You and Garrett had been over there during the day? 629 00:39:06,070 --> 00:39:07,070 Yes, sir. 630 00:39:07,250 --> 00:39:11,030 Kip told us that she was coming over that night and asked if we would go help 631 00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:12,450 set up his room so that we could see. 632 00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:14,070 And what was some of these preparations? 633 00:39:15,250 --> 00:39:18,670 His window was kind of high up, so we had to stack some paving stones to stand 634 00:39:18,670 --> 00:39:19,670 on. 635 00:39:21,050 --> 00:39:24,130 And he had these curtains that we had to rig so that we could see better. 636 00:39:26,690 --> 00:39:29,070 And what happened after you finished setting up his room, Paul? 637 00:39:29,390 --> 00:39:30,390 We went home. 638 00:39:30,830 --> 00:39:33,670 And then later I picked Garrett up and we drove back over to Kip. 639 00:39:37,420 --> 00:39:40,620 I knew what kind of car Mrs. Gill drove because I'd seen it a bunch of times at 640 00:39:40,620 --> 00:39:41,620 school. 641 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,640 It was parked right where Kip had said it would be. 642 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,040 Now, at this point, we're thinking, maybe she's just over there talking to 643 00:39:48,060 --> 00:39:51,080 right? But on the way up to the house, I started to get cold feet. 644 00:39:55,980 --> 00:39:58,480 I said I didn't want to go, so Garrett went first. 645 00:40:09,710 --> 00:40:10,890 I was scared we'd be caught. 646 00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:15,770 And then after a minute, he comes back and he says, somebody's about to do 647 00:40:15,770 --> 00:40:16,770 something to somebody. 648 00:40:17,210 --> 00:40:19,910 And that's when I went up to the window. 649 00:40:32,270 --> 00:40:35,990 When you first looked through the window, what did you observe, Paul? 650 00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:37,550 Exactly. 651 00:40:41,550 --> 00:40:45,470 I saw my best friend, Kip Boushmore, and my teacher, Mrs. Gill, having sex. 652 00:40:47,630 --> 00:40:48,630 Order! 653 00:40:48,910 --> 00:40:49,910 Order! 654 00:40:50,410 --> 00:40:50,870 Your 655 00:40:50,870 --> 00:41:00,430 witness, 656 00:41:00,610 --> 00:41:01,610 Mr. Turner. 657 00:41:02,030 --> 00:41:03,030 Mr. Preston. 658 00:41:04,990 --> 00:41:09,790 Yesterday, you described preparations you made in order to better see Kip and 659 00:41:09,790 --> 00:41:10,870 the defendant having sex. 660 00:41:11,450 --> 00:41:14,490 For example, you stacked up some stepping stones. Do you recall why you 661 00:41:14,490 --> 00:41:15,490 that? 662 00:41:15,610 --> 00:41:17,230 It made it easier to see. 663 00:41:19,090 --> 00:41:20,090 Your Honor, may I? 664 00:41:21,630 --> 00:41:22,690 Would you step over here, please? 665 00:41:28,110 --> 00:41:29,110 Right here. 666 00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:32,490 Now, I want you to imagine that the jury box is Kip's bed. 667 00:41:33,110 --> 00:41:37,490 Earlier, some photos were introduced indicating that the bedroom window is 668 00:41:37,490 --> 00:41:38,530 feet from the base of the house. 669 00:41:38,770 --> 00:41:39,770 How tall are you, Paul? 670 00:41:39,930 --> 00:41:41,090 I'm 5 '10". 671 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,600 Now, 672 00:41:42,980 --> 00:41:45,060 I want you to look at the jury while I measure out five feet. 673 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:53,360 Garrett's shorter, I think. 674 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,960 Actually, he's an inch taller, but okay. 675 00:41:56,220 --> 00:41:57,320 I'll measure out two more inches. 676 00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:06,760 I'd like the record to reflect that I measured out five feet, two inches, and 677 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,360 yet Mr. Preston can still see the jury easily over the top. 678 00:42:09,580 --> 00:42:10,580 Can you? 679 00:42:10,970 --> 00:42:11,970 Yes, sir. 680 00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:13,069 Thank you. 681 00:42:13,070 --> 00:42:14,070 You can sit back down. 682 00:42:19,730 --> 00:42:23,390 Now, when you were before the grand jury, you testified that after Kip and 683 00:42:23,470 --> 00:42:26,990 Gill had made love, he turned the lights off to signal that they were finished. 684 00:42:27,010 --> 00:42:28,170 Do you recall that being part of the plan? 685 00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:33,810 Yes, that's right. He said, when I turn the lights off, you guys have to leave. 686 00:42:35,660 --> 00:42:38,880 So what you're saying is they made love with the lights on, and then when they 687 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,080 were ready to go, he turned the lights off, and they got dressed in the dark. 688 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,320 Yeah. 689 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:56,200 Maybe a lot of the stuff we did wasn't necessary, but it's not like any of us 690 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,080 had any experience with this kind of thing. That would be one explanation. 691 00:42:59,980 --> 00:43:02,260 Another might be that you guys made up the story. 692 00:43:02,700 --> 00:43:06,040 and then never got around to going over to Kip's house to see if it checked out. 693 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,080 That's not true. 694 00:43:07,900 --> 00:43:11,280 And we never discussed this among ourselves until after we gave our 695 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,098 to the school. 696 00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:15,420 Have you ever heard of a place called the Ice House, Mr. Preston? 697 00:43:18,940 --> 00:43:19,940 Yeah, 698 00:43:20,620 --> 00:43:21,620 I've heard of it. 699 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,640 It's a place Kip's from school used to hang out sometimes. 700 00:43:25,980 --> 00:43:30,220 And weren't you hanging out there the weekend after Kip died, along with 701 00:43:30,220 --> 00:43:31,960 Evans, Stuart Cardell, and several others? 702 00:43:33,970 --> 00:43:37,350 Yeah. Yes, sir. I suppose we were, yeah. 703 00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:41,650 Kip had just committed suicide, and yet the subject of what you had all 704 00:43:41,650 --> 00:43:44,070 witnessed between Kip and Paulette Gill never came up. 705 00:43:44,510 --> 00:43:46,290 Is that your testimony, Mr. Preston? 706 00:43:50,610 --> 00:43:54,630 Mr. Cardell, could you please tell us what happened on the weekend of November 707 00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:55,730 24th? 708 00:43:57,090 --> 00:44:00,870 The weekend of November 24th, Paul and I were staying over at Kip's house. 709 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,700 His parents had already gone to bed. 710 00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:05,060 We were just getting ready to watch video when the phone rings. 711 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,840 And what time was that? 712 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,400 About 11 .30. 713 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,000 So Kip's on the phone for a couple minutes. 714 00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:21,960 When he gets off, he's got this great big grin on his face. 715 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,320 And he says to Paul, it's on again for tonight. 716 00:44:25,100 --> 00:44:28,880 At that point, they told me that Mrs. Gill and Kip had sex the weekend before. 717 00:44:29,420 --> 00:44:32,660 And what did you think of all this, Mr. Cardell? I believed it. 718 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,260 I had her as a teacher. 719 00:44:34,700 --> 00:44:36,680 You could say I'd seen her in action. 720 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:40,640 Order. 721 00:44:41,300 --> 00:44:43,460 Let's leave the humor to the lawyers, Mr. Cardell. 722 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,280 Please proceed. 723 00:44:45,380 --> 00:44:47,020 So anyway, Paul and I go outside to wait. 724 00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:48,960 About ten minutes later, she shows up. 725 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:55,560 I watch for 45 minutes, maybe, during which I watch Mrs. Gill and Kip have 726 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:56,980 intercourse and all sex. 727 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:07,600 Your witness. 728 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,040 Mr. Cardell, would you please tell us the sequence of sexual acts you 729 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:15,680 You mean like what order? 730 00:47:16,020 --> 00:47:17,480 That's what I mean, Mr. Cardell. 731 00:47:20,020 --> 00:47:26,860 Okay, well, best I can remember, it was oral sex, and 732 00:47:26,860 --> 00:47:33,740 then, you know, regular sex, and then it was oral sex again. So you observed 733 00:47:33,740 --> 00:47:35,720 three separate sex acts in 45 minutes? 734 00:47:42,430 --> 00:47:45,710 Yes. Now, how was Mrs. Gill as a teacher? 735 00:47:46,590 --> 00:47:47,590 She was okay. 736 00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:51,030 She actually went out of her way to give you a lot of extra help, didn't she? 737 00:47:52,110 --> 00:47:54,950 Yeah. Did she ever make any sexual overtures to you? 738 00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:56,430 No. 739 00:47:56,850 --> 00:48:00,110 So when you say that her actions contributed to your conclusion that Kip 740 00:48:00,110 --> 00:48:01,750 Paul were telling the truth, what are you talking about? 741 00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:05,370 It was just a feeling I got. 742 00:48:06,810 --> 00:48:10,010 After Mrs. Gill left, Did you guys talk about what had just happened? 743 00:48:14,270 --> 00:48:17,650 You know, I don't think we ever really talked about it until after we gave our 744 00:48:17,650 --> 00:48:18,650 statement to the school. 745 00:48:18,930 --> 00:48:20,130 You mean even at Kip's funeral? 746 00:48:20,450 --> 00:48:22,830 And when you were all together the night he died, you didn't talk about it? 747 00:48:24,210 --> 00:48:25,210 I don't believe so. 748 00:48:25,650 --> 00:48:27,630 What about when you were all out at the ice house, Mr. Cardell? 749 00:48:28,290 --> 00:48:31,250 No. But you were out at the ice house together, weren't you? He is killing us 750 00:48:31,250 --> 00:48:32,370 with this ice house business. 751 00:48:34,930 --> 00:48:36,230 Yeah, yeah, we were there. 752 00:48:38,049 --> 00:48:39,049 No further questions. 753 00:48:39,930 --> 00:48:42,030 Let's hold Garrett back for now. I want to interview him again. 754 00:48:42,310 --> 00:48:45,490 I want you to call Don Newbeck, tell him it's time to fish or cut bait. Got it. 755 00:48:45,490 --> 00:48:46,510 Any redirect, Mr. Cleaver? 756 00:48:46,850 --> 00:48:47,850 Sorry, Your Honor. 757 00:48:48,410 --> 00:48:51,510 In view of the hour, Your Honor, the state requests a recess until tomorrow. 758 00:48:57,630 --> 00:49:02,150 You were great today. 759 00:49:03,290 --> 00:49:06,230 That's not just my opinion. The whole press corps is talking about how you're 760 00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:07,230 kicking their butts. 761 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,880 Well, it's early yet, but thanks, Bobby. 762 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:12,780 So why the long face? 763 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,440 I guess I'm still bugged by the way Cleaver stood by while the town held its 764 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,920 inquisition. Oh, don't be such a boy scout. 765 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,120 The people in Briarcliff want justice, and if they're in a position to pull 766 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,180 strings, I'd pay more power to them. That's just how the system operates. 767 00:49:28,180 --> 00:49:31,040 well, may I remind you, you and I are part of the system. Yeah, and I've seen 768 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,540 you work that system plenty to put some really awful people back on the street. 769 00:49:34,820 --> 00:49:36,800 Who always says winning is all that matters? 770 00:49:40,300 --> 00:49:44,400 The first day I went to pick them up for court, the boy across the street came 771 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,580 over to ask Paulette's help for a project at school. 772 00:49:47,660 --> 00:49:51,200 I mean, here she was about to enter the arena, yet she was willing to take the 773 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,440 time to help some kid with his homework. 774 00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:54,720 That's when I knew. 775 00:49:55,180 --> 00:49:58,160 This woman cares too much about teaching to get involved in anything like this. 776 00:49:59,740 --> 00:50:01,920 I think you're being a little naive about her. 777 00:50:02,580 --> 00:50:06,240 I mean, even nice people can rationalize almost anything in the name of passion. 778 00:50:07,180 --> 00:50:08,180 Look at us. 779 00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:32,990 Roger? Roger? 780 00:50:47,110 --> 00:50:50,090 You know, it occurred to me I haven't cooked for you in ages, so I decided to 781 00:50:50,090 --> 00:50:52,830 whip up a special batch of my stir fry. Come here. 782 00:50:53,950 --> 00:50:55,430 This is really sweet of you. 783 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:57,360 You like it? 784 00:50:58,140 --> 00:50:59,260 Thank you. 785 00:51:01,420 --> 00:51:06,680 Would you like some champagne, my dear, huh? 786 00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:09,100 Champagne, too? 787 00:51:09,460 --> 00:51:11,100 Either that or diet cranberry juice. 788 00:51:11,300 --> 00:51:12,500 Decide to live dangerously. 789 00:51:18,300 --> 00:51:23,620 I really appreciate the thought. 790 00:51:24,790 --> 00:51:26,830 But I don't think I could get down a bite of food. 791 00:51:27,830 --> 00:51:30,790 Maybe what you need is to work up a little appetite. 792 00:51:32,810 --> 00:51:33,810 Huh? 793 00:51:33,970 --> 00:51:34,970 Come here. 794 00:51:37,590 --> 00:51:38,590 You look beautiful. 795 00:51:44,210 --> 00:51:45,310 Step on your feet, I want. 796 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,040 I don't feel very attractive right now. 797 00:51:56,540 --> 00:51:57,880 Oh, you are, believe me. 798 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:13,520 Okay. 799 00:52:17,220 --> 00:52:19,080 I'm really not up for this right now. 800 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:21,440 Roger, please. 801 00:52:22,170 --> 00:52:24,890 I'm sorry, I just don't feel very sexual right now. 802 00:52:27,290 --> 00:52:28,630 Please be patient with me. 803 00:52:36,050 --> 00:52:39,990 As the boy's vice principal, it was my decision to transfer Kip Boschmeyer into 804 00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:40,928 her class. 805 00:52:40,930 --> 00:52:44,410 Miss Gill ran a somewhat informal classroom, but I thought the boy might 806 00:52:44,410 --> 00:52:45,410 better in that environment. 807 00:52:45,490 --> 00:52:46,448 Did he? 808 00:52:46,450 --> 00:52:47,450 At first, he did. 809 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,520 But then I kept hearing that she was keeping him after class a couple of 810 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:51,499 every week. 811 00:52:51,500 --> 00:52:54,220 Objection. Your Honor, this is blatantly misleading. 812 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,940 There is no offer of proof that anything but studying went on at these after 813 00:52:57,940 --> 00:52:58,940 -school sessions. 814 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:00,880 Let me see you two lawyers up here right now. 815 00:53:07,620 --> 00:53:12,400 What is your theory of invisibility on this? Given her informal manner and her 816 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,260 willingness to meet with him one -on -one, Kip no doubt saw these after 817 00:53:15,260 --> 00:53:16,360 sessions as an open invitation. 818 00:53:16,970 --> 00:53:17,970 To do what? 819 00:53:18,210 --> 00:53:19,210 Study. 820 00:53:19,370 --> 00:53:20,510 I'm going to sustain the objection. 821 00:53:20,950 --> 00:53:23,490 As long as we're here, Your Honor, it's my understanding that the testimony of 822 00:53:23,490 --> 00:53:26,370 the next three witnesses goes exclusively to the issue of whether or 823 00:53:26,450 --> 00:53:28,170 Gill's attire in school was too provocative. 824 00:53:29,150 --> 00:53:32,030 Again, Judge, it's our contention that her relationship with Kip was just part 825 00:53:32,030 --> 00:53:33,610 of a whole range of unacceptable conduct. 826 00:53:33,830 --> 00:53:37,070 Perhaps. But I'm not going to allow her to be convicted of sexual assault based 827 00:53:37,070 --> 00:53:38,070 on what she wore to work. 828 00:53:38,730 --> 00:53:41,130 Now, do you have any other questions for this witness? No. 829 00:53:41,910 --> 00:53:42,910 Step back. 830 00:53:47,759 --> 00:53:49,300 Mr. Garcia, you're excused. 831 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:51,480 Thank you. 832 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,880 Do you have any other witnesses you can call at this time? 833 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:57,680 We do, Your Honor. 834 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,320 She's not on a lift, having only recently come forward, but she is in the 835 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:02,320 building and ready to testify. 836 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:03,940 Call your witness, Mr. Cleaver. 837 00:54:04,380 --> 00:54:06,140 The state calls Patricia Newbeck. 838 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:26,360 Please proceed. 839 00:54:28,300 --> 00:54:32,220 Ms. Newbeck, your relationship with the defendant was more than the usual 840 00:54:32,220 --> 00:54:33,800 teacher -student relationship, wasn't it? 841 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,140 We were also close friends, yeah. 842 00:54:36,780 --> 00:54:38,140 How did your friendship come about? 843 00:54:39,100 --> 00:54:41,240 At first, it was based on my schoolwork. 844 00:54:41,500 --> 00:54:46,200 And then as we discovered we had mutual interests, we started hanging out 845 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:47,200 together outside of school. 846 00:54:47,460 --> 00:54:51,060 You mean you would socialize in each other's homes, maybe go out to eat? 847 00:54:51,460 --> 00:54:56,200 Yes. I'd like to call your attention to the night of November 17th, 1992. 848 00:54:57,140 --> 00:54:59,600 Do you recall where you were between 9 and 11 that night? 849 00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:02,660 Paulette and I had dinner at Joy Garden. 850 00:55:03,620 --> 00:55:05,680 It's a Chinese restaurant near school. 851 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,080 Do you recall the conversation? 852 00:55:10,340 --> 00:55:11,340 Yes, I do. 853 00:55:11,580 --> 00:55:16,140 You asked my opinion, Patsy, and I'm telling you, I don't think you should be 854 00:55:16,140 --> 00:55:17,340 giving Bobby that kind of commitment. 855 00:55:17,620 --> 00:55:18,720 We really love each other. 856 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,560 Why is that so hard for everybody to understand? 857 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,040 I understand. 858 00:55:23,060 --> 00:55:25,720 I was in college. I was dating Roger. 859 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,120 I was in love. 860 00:55:27,620 --> 00:55:34,300 And now here it is a few years later, and people don't always evolve in the 861 00:55:34,300 --> 00:55:35,300 direction. 862 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:36,800 God, Paulette. 863 00:55:37,300 --> 00:55:39,220 You and Roger aren't having problems, are you? 864 00:55:41,180 --> 00:55:46,840 I love Roger, but I don't think either of us really... She went on to say 865 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:51,340 that... Since Roger had started grad school, he had gotten totally caught up 866 00:55:51,340 --> 00:55:52,198 his work. 867 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,300 She said he was distracted and losing interest in her. 868 00:55:57,580 --> 00:56:01,260 And had another complication in the Gill marriage developed at this time? 869 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:05,080 Yes. 870 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,640 Paulette told me she might be falling in love with Kip Bauschmeier. 871 00:56:09,820 --> 00:56:11,740 Did she say what those feelings were based on? 872 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,500 Kip was crazy about her. 873 00:56:15,470 --> 00:56:18,810 She was always interested in everything she had to say. Was it your impression 874 00:56:18,810 --> 00:56:20,010 that those feelings had been acted upon? 875 00:56:21,850 --> 00:56:23,370 That's how the subject came up. 876 00:56:24,570 --> 00:56:29,030 Paulette had a date with Kip that night, and she wanted me to cover for her. 877 00:56:30,430 --> 00:56:33,790 If my teacher looked like that, I probably would have killed myself, too. 878 00:56:34,310 --> 00:56:36,470 You know what she said when they caught her? No, what's that? 879 00:56:36,810 --> 00:56:38,030 She's cramming for an exam. 880 00:56:40,050 --> 00:56:42,070 Are you crazy? 881 00:56:47,180 --> 00:56:50,520 Just two more questions. Would you say you were also close friends with Garrett 882 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,200 Evans, Stuart Cardell, or Paul Preston? 883 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,460 No, I'm not friends with their group at all. 884 00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:56,720 Have you ever been to the Ice House? 885 00:56:57,260 --> 00:56:58,460 I don't even know where that is. 886 00:56:59,000 --> 00:56:59,738 Thank you. 887 00:56:59,740 --> 00:57:00,740 No further questions. 888 00:57:01,660 --> 00:57:04,540 Miss Newbeck, you knew Kip Bouchemoyer pretty well, didn't you? 889 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:06,980 Our families were close, yeah. 890 00:57:07,660 --> 00:57:09,640 Initially, you were one of Mrs. Gill's strongest supporters. 891 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,320 You told the school principal, your parents, anyone who would listen, that 892 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,520 thought Paulette Gill was not guilty of these charges. 893 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:17,538 That's true. 894 00:57:17,540 --> 00:57:19,440 What prompted you to change your story? 895 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:26,300 Paulette and I were friends, but I felt that what she had done was wrong, so I 896 00:57:26,300 --> 00:57:27,580 decided I couldn't support her anymore. 897 00:57:27,900 --> 00:57:28,900 When was that? 898 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:30,820 I don't remember exactly. 899 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,940 Miss Newbeck, this is a statement you made to the district attorney's office 900 00:57:35,940 --> 00:57:36,940 April of this year. 901 00:57:37,060 --> 00:57:38,060 Do you recognize it? 902 00:57:45,260 --> 00:57:48,200 And you told the district attorney's office you had no relevant information, 903 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:49,480 didn't you? 904 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:52,240 Yes. 905 00:57:52,420 --> 00:57:55,680 And when my investigator, Mr. Cobb, spoke to you last July and asked you 906 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,320 having dinner with Mrs. Gill, what did you say? 907 00:57:59,260 --> 00:58:01,180 I told him I couldn't remember. 908 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,700 Ms. Newbeck, let me direct your attention again to your April statement. 909 00:58:07,340 --> 00:58:10,420 Where did you tell the DA was your reason for accepting the interview? 910 00:58:13,230 --> 00:58:14,830 Shall I read it to you, Miss Newbeck? 911 00:58:16,670 --> 00:58:21,290 I said the only reason I was there was because my father had been bugging me. 912 00:58:21,410 --> 00:58:25,170 And the reason he was bugging you was that he didn't believe you when you told 913 00:58:25,170 --> 00:58:27,410 him that you thought Paulette Gill was innocent of these charges. 914 00:58:27,790 --> 00:58:31,730 And as it turned out, your father's instinct that you're a liar proved to be 915 00:58:31,730 --> 00:58:32,730 correct, didn't it? 916 00:58:33,190 --> 00:58:35,550 What's important is that I'm telling the truth now. 917 00:58:44,330 --> 00:58:45,330 No further questions. 918 00:59:01,750 --> 00:59:04,350 The guy you pushed was a lawyer. 919 00:59:05,630 --> 00:59:07,630 Owen got him to not press charges. 920 00:59:08,070 --> 00:59:09,710 Oh, that's a load off my mind. 921 00:59:10,540 --> 00:59:14,120 Owen also thinks it might be a good idea if you stayed away from the courthouse 922 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:14,919 for a while. 923 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:15,920 Owen thinks, huh? 924 00:59:16,380 --> 00:59:17,380 What do you think? 925 00:59:19,980 --> 00:59:23,500 That depends on whether you think you can control your temper, Roger. 926 00:59:23,740 --> 00:59:25,440 There was no loss of control, Paulette. 927 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,960 I saw a chance to defend your honor for the first time since this whole business 928 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:30,960 began. 929 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:32,360 And I took it. 930 00:59:41,740 --> 00:59:46,340 If you'd like to listen, I'd like to try to explain about Patsy. 931 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,000 Discuss our problems with her or not. 932 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,780 She took things I said at different times out of context. 933 00:59:53,140 --> 00:59:56,020 What context could there possibly be for talking to this girl about our 934 00:59:56,020 --> 00:59:58,860 marriage? You know, I never liked the way you were with those kids. 935 00:59:59,180 --> 01:00:00,680 How accessible you made yourself. 936 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,680 But I didn't say anything because I figured that was your call. 937 01:00:04,220 --> 01:00:07,080 And because I never dreamed that what you were sharing were intimate details 938 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,600 our family life, Paulette. When kids come to you... 939 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:15,640 Asking advice and sharing their secrets. You find yourself responding in kind. 940 01:00:16,260 --> 01:00:17,520 Is that such a crime? 941 01:00:18,100 --> 01:00:20,020 That depends on how far it went, I guess, huh? 942 01:00:23,820 --> 01:00:26,140 Are you asking if it's all true? 943 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,440 No, but when they say you didn't keep your distance, they're not wrong, are 944 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:31,440 they? 945 01:00:31,780 --> 01:00:35,020 You did cross over the line and you brought this down on us as surely as if 946 01:00:35,020 --> 01:00:36,020 had slept with him. 947 01:00:37,620 --> 01:00:38,620 Maybe. 948 01:00:39,500 --> 01:00:42,160 It's not such a bad idea if you did stay away from court. 949 01:00:42,780 --> 01:00:44,880 Well, I wish I didn't have to go to court, believe me. 950 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,880 Our friends in the press, they'd have a field day. 951 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,200 I don't care much about appearances right now. 952 01:00:51,540 --> 01:00:52,540 Well, I do. 953 01:00:53,380 --> 01:00:55,420 I'm not going to give those bastards any satisfaction. 954 01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,160 Let me spell it out for you. 955 01:01:00,340 --> 01:01:02,960 I don't want you there anymore. 956 01:01:03,660 --> 01:01:06,440 If that's the only reason you have for coming. 957 01:01:39,020 --> 01:01:41,800 How long did you watch the defendant and Kip having sexual intercourse, Mr. 958 01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:46,360 Evans? About a half hour, of which I was at the window maybe ten minutes 959 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:47,360 altogether. 960 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,780 Now, why is it that you decided not to tell anybody about what you'd seen prior 961 01:02:39,780 --> 01:02:40,780 to Kip's death? 962 01:02:41,420 --> 01:02:43,000 Oh, Kip asked us not to. 963 01:02:43,740 --> 01:02:45,660 He was worried about getting Mrs. Gill in trouble. 964 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:48,960 And I think also we felt a little ashamed. 965 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,800 Now, this place, the Ice House, you and your friends did go out there? 966 01:02:55,620 --> 01:02:56,900 Yes, sir, the night after he died. 967 01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,140 Did you and Stuart Cordell... 968 01:03:01,500 --> 01:03:05,700 And Paul Preston conspired to make up this story at the ice house, Mr. Evans. 969 01:03:11,820 --> 01:03:13,900 That would have been impossible, sir. 970 01:03:15,420 --> 01:03:17,060 We went to the ice house on Friday. 971 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,900 By then, I'd already told my mother and some other police officers what I knew. 972 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:25,400 No further questions. 973 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,900 All Garrett's testimony really proves is that he was the first one to tell the 974 01:03:29,900 --> 01:03:30,900 story. 975 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,500 We can argue that he was the ringleader, but it hurt us. 976 01:03:34,020 --> 01:03:36,880 And as for Patsy Newberry... Can't we call Leland Gruen? 977 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,520 Unfortunately, his story about the ice house isn't a first -hand account, and 978 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:41,520 wouldn't be admissible. 979 01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:44,460 Cobb can't find anyone who will admit that they were actually there. 980 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,860 Paulette, this whole thing is going to come down to your testimony. 981 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:50,560 So I want you to really focus on that. 982 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,260 When you get up there tomorrow, I want you to tell your story simply and 983 01:03:54,260 --> 01:03:55,260 straightforwardly. 984 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,760 Do that, and I think the jury will believe you. 985 01:03:58,980 --> 01:03:59,980 Will they? 986 01:04:00,759 --> 01:04:01,759 You didn't. 987 01:04:02,780 --> 01:04:03,780 Yeah. 988 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,220 Maybe I've just defended too many guilty people. 989 01:04:06,420 --> 01:04:10,400 But I have to believe that when that jury really looks at you, they'll see 990 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:11,880 I saw when I finally opened my eyes. 991 01:04:12,660 --> 01:04:14,480 An innocent woman, falsely accused. 992 01:04:40,590 --> 01:04:44,010 Highs expected in the daytime of 72. 993 01:04:44,350 --> 01:04:45,810 A little bit warmer, of course. 994 01:04:46,210 --> 01:04:52,910 And now in the next five days, we expect them to remain in the mid 995 01:04:52,910 --> 01:04:57,690 -70s. We'll be right back. 996 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,640 haven't met. I'm Roberta Rosen with the San Diego Ledger. In the media, people 997 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,680 seem pretty chummy with Mrs. Boschmore. Ever ask her what she's doing here? 998 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,440 Witnesses aren't allowed in the courtroom, but she comes to the 999 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,500 day. Ever ask yourself what it means? I think it helps her cope with the loss of 1000 01:05:28,500 --> 01:05:30,720 her son. I came out here to give you equal time. 1001 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,680 Yeah, well, our lawyer advised us not to speak with the press. 1002 01:05:34,940 --> 01:05:37,160 Then you can't complain about the kind of press you're getting, can you? 1003 01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:38,560 And that's it, huh? 1004 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,860 You think saying that absolves you of responsibility? 1005 01:05:41,460 --> 01:05:44,440 You think there's some questions we ought to be asking? How about asking 1006 01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:45,440 I'm doing here? 1007 01:05:45,530 --> 01:05:48,530 Why would I possibly stick by Paulette if there was any truth to these charges? 1008 01:05:48,730 --> 01:05:50,770 Well, you haven't been sticking by her lately, have you? 1009 01:05:51,330 --> 01:05:53,010 Your attorney told us you came down with the flu. 1010 01:05:53,810 --> 01:05:55,010 You seem pretty healthy to me. 1011 01:05:58,390 --> 01:06:00,690 You know, maybe I haven't handled myself as well as I could. 1012 01:06:02,350 --> 01:06:03,610 But I'm not a public figure. 1013 01:06:04,230 --> 01:06:05,650 I'm just a guy that sells computers. 1014 01:06:06,690 --> 01:06:11,090 And my wife is a woman whose only plan in life was to get married and raise a 1015 01:06:11,090 --> 01:06:12,290 family and teach school. 1016 01:06:13,980 --> 01:06:17,040 Before you make any judgments about us, why don't you ask yourself what your 1017 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:18,760 life would look like if it was put under a microscope? 1018 01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:21,740 I love my wife, Miss Rose. 1019 01:06:23,860 --> 01:06:24,860 Excuse me. 1020 01:06:33,780 --> 01:06:34,780 Mr. 1021 01:06:35,020 --> 01:06:36,260 Turner, are you ready to proceed? 1022 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:41,720 The defense calls Paulette Gill. 1023 01:06:56,609 --> 01:06:57,609 Raise your right hand. 1024 01:06:59,970 --> 01:07:03,330 Do you swear the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, 1025 01:07:03,430 --> 01:07:04,930 and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 1026 01:07:05,250 --> 01:07:06,250 I do. 1027 01:07:16,870 --> 01:07:20,110 Mrs. Gill, why did you decide to become a teacher? 1028 01:07:21,530 --> 01:07:23,310 I'd always admired my own teachers. 1029 01:07:24,390 --> 01:07:25,870 and I liked working with kids. 1030 01:07:27,150 --> 01:07:30,630 And how long had you been at Briarcliff High School when you met Kip Bouchmore? 1031 01:07:31,370 --> 01:07:32,370 About two years. 1032 01:07:32,730 --> 01:07:36,490 We heard testimony that the decision to transfer Kip to your class was based on 1033 01:07:36,490 --> 01:07:39,110 the idea that you and he would have a rapport. Is that your recollection? 1034 01:07:39,370 --> 01:07:43,370 Not really. I think it had more to do with the fact that I was the most junior 1035 01:07:43,370 --> 01:07:48,290 member of the department, and Kip had a reputation of being a troublemaker. 1036 01:07:48,750 --> 01:07:50,350 Was that reputation well -deserved? 1037 01:07:52,300 --> 01:07:53,840 Make thick my blood? 1038 01:07:54,740 --> 01:07:57,620 Stop up the access and passage to remorse. 1039 01:07:58,160 --> 01:07:59,340 I think he's misunderstood. 1040 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:05,120 Teachers sometimes forget that while you're testing the kids, they're also 1041 01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:06,078 testing you. 1042 01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,920 Come to my woman's breast and take my milk for gone. I'm not saying we didn't 1043 01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:14,160 have our moments, but overall, I think we did end up with a pretty good 1044 01:08:15,020 --> 01:08:19,080 We also heard testimony that you spent time with kids outside of school. How do 1045 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:20,080 you account for that? 1046 01:08:22,279 --> 01:08:28,220 All I can say is that I grew up in a very small town where our teachers were 1047 01:08:28,220 --> 01:08:29,859 neighbors, people we thought church. 1048 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,319 So it just seemed natural to me. 1049 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:40,660 And it was just a couple of students like Patsy that I felt particularly 1050 01:08:40,660 --> 01:08:42,680 to. And was Kip another one of those students? 1051 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:48,620 Not at first, but there came a time when Kip began to seek me out on a more 1052 01:08:48,620 --> 01:08:49,620 individual basis. 1053 01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,200 Do you recall what brought that on? 1054 01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:57,020 It was around the time when he was kicked off the football team. It's not 1055 01:08:57,340 --> 01:09:00,939 They said all I needed to do was get a passing average, not pass every class. 1056 01:09:01,380 --> 01:09:02,380 Hey, did you hear? 1057 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:03,560 Kip's off the team. 1058 01:09:03,779 --> 01:09:04,779 Yeah, of course I heard. 1059 01:09:05,180 --> 01:09:06,340 I'm co -captain, aren't I? 1060 01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:08,840 That's a tough break, man. 1061 01:09:09,100 --> 01:09:11,479 I just hate letting you guys down while the team's on such a roll. 1062 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,000 Yeah, well, I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it, Kip. I'm not saying we 1063 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,960 couldn't use you on the team, man. Just don't act like you're indispensable or 1064 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:20,800 something. Why are you always hassling me, man? 1065 01:09:21,370 --> 01:09:23,010 Because someone's got to let a little air out. 1066 01:09:23,930 --> 01:09:26,330 Otherwise, you'd float away under that big head of yours. 1067 01:09:32,350 --> 01:09:33,350 Guys, let's go. 1068 01:09:33,910 --> 01:09:34,910 Limsteady, give us the ride. 1069 01:09:54,350 --> 01:09:55,830 Miss Jean, class today, Kip. 1070 01:09:56,870 --> 01:09:57,870 Hey, Miss Gill. 1071 01:09:59,710 --> 01:10:01,930 I had to go down to the principal's office. 1072 01:10:02,270 --> 01:10:03,990 Get this thing with my grades straightened out. 1073 01:10:05,010 --> 01:10:08,310 I told him what he needed to do was get some more teachers like Mrs. Gill. 1074 01:10:09,450 --> 01:10:12,170 They were all as pretty as her. The whole football team would be on the 1075 01:10:12,170 --> 01:10:13,170 roll. 1076 01:10:18,170 --> 01:10:19,270 What are you doing right now? 1077 01:10:24,110 --> 01:10:27,890 And when we were all little, I was the one who could run the fastest or climb 1078 01:10:27,890 --> 01:10:28,890 the bigger tree. 1079 01:10:29,430 --> 01:10:32,250 Garrett was just a little squirt, but I always included him. 1080 01:10:33,090 --> 01:10:35,710 Now it's the other way around, and the guy gives me nothing but grief. 1081 01:10:36,330 --> 01:10:38,990 Well, maybe being co -captain has just gone to his head. 1082 01:10:39,590 --> 01:10:40,590 No. 1083 01:10:40,830 --> 01:10:42,170 He's just got it in for me. 1084 01:10:43,490 --> 01:10:45,890 Dewey and Paul, they go whichever way the wind blows. 1085 01:10:47,470 --> 01:10:51,570 In my opinion, being kicked off the football team isn't the worst thing that 1086 01:10:51,570 --> 01:10:52,570 could happen. 1087 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,220 You have more going for you than you realize, kid. 1088 01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:57,200 Yeah? 1089 01:10:58,080 --> 01:10:59,080 Like what? 1090 01:10:59,780 --> 01:11:01,580 Like the side of you I see right now. 1091 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:03,280 Your serious side. 1092 01:11:04,020 --> 01:11:06,740 I like it, and I'd like to see more of it. 1093 01:11:10,340 --> 01:11:13,280 You know, I never thought I could talk to a teacher like this. 1094 01:11:14,340 --> 01:11:16,820 After that, he started calling me at home. 1095 01:11:17,220 --> 01:11:22,000 I hadn't given him my number, but other kids had it, and it was listed. 1096 01:11:23,190 --> 01:11:25,730 Now, at one point, you did have occasion to go to his home. 1097 01:11:26,070 --> 01:11:27,870 Could you please tell the jury what prompted that? 1098 01:11:30,410 --> 01:11:35,770 About a month after we had coffee, Kip called me one evening, very upset. 1099 01:11:38,810 --> 01:11:41,370 Hello? Mrs. Gill, I need to see you. 1100 01:11:41,710 --> 01:11:43,050 Kip, what's the matter? 1101 01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,020 So when they thought my grades were going up, they bought me a car, right? 1102 01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:03,560 You thought in the driveway. 1103 01:12:05,480 --> 01:12:08,500 Then I didn't do too well on my midterms. Now they're going to take the 1104 01:12:10,260 --> 01:12:12,280 Do you even have your license here? That's not the point. 1105 01:12:12,900 --> 01:12:15,060 I mean, it's just something else for them to hold over my head. 1106 01:12:17,580 --> 01:12:19,140 Meantime, Paul had a big party. 1107 01:12:19,580 --> 01:12:20,580 Never even called me. 1108 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:24,320 Life's a mess. 1109 01:12:25,140 --> 01:12:26,140 I don't get a car? 1110 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:28,420 Might as well go into exile. 1111 01:12:34,090 --> 01:12:35,090 I'm adopted. 1112 01:12:35,950 --> 01:12:37,050 Did I ever tell you that? 1113 01:12:40,010 --> 01:12:43,310 My older brother got all A's in school. 1114 01:12:45,750 --> 01:12:48,090 Dad always asked me why I couldn't be more like Michael. 1115 01:12:49,490 --> 01:12:52,090 Of course, Mike's their natural son. 1116 01:12:53,730 --> 01:12:54,990 See, that makes me what? 1117 01:12:56,150 --> 01:12:57,210 The unnatural son? 1118 01:12:59,830 --> 01:13:01,970 I'm sure your father doesn't feel that way. 1119 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:04,280 What about your mom? 1120 01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,060 I just don't get it. 1121 01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:08,360 Not like you do. 1122 01:13:09,500 --> 01:13:11,660 You're the only person I can really talk to. 1123 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,840 All I can tell you, kid, is that it gets better. 1124 01:13:21,940 --> 01:13:26,580 Eventually, you'll be out on your own, and the cars, and your parents, and what 1125 01:13:26,580 --> 01:13:29,020 your friends think seem pretty unimportant. 1126 01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,080 I don't know if I can wait till then. 1127 01:13:32,820 --> 01:13:33,940 Let's talk about January. 1128 01:13:34,820 --> 01:13:37,640 You began to hear rumors that you and Kip were lovers. What did you make of 1129 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:38,640 that? 1130 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:43,320 When you're around kids that age, you hear a lot of wild stories. 1131 01:13:44,140 --> 01:13:48,260 But then somebody told me that Kip himself was the one who had started the 1132 01:13:48,260 --> 01:13:50,160 rumors. And how did that make you feel? 1133 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:52,720 Used. 1134 01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:54,240 Betrayed. 1135 01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,480 When I asked him about it, of course he denied it. 1136 01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,840 And why didn't you report him to the principal, Mrs. Gill? 1137 01:14:03,020 --> 01:14:07,420 At the time, I thought if I spoke to him myself, it would put a stop to it. 1138 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:09,000 Did it? 1139 01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:10,360 No. 1140 01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,200 I learned later that he continued to tell his friends that we were sleeping 1141 01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:17,020 together. Until finally there was a compromise. 1142 01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,940 You say a word to anybody. What are you going to do, Kip? Hit me? 1143 01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:22,640 What are you going to do, Kip? 1144 01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:24,440 She just called you a liar. 1145 01:14:24,660 --> 01:14:27,040 You're not going to let her get away with that, are you? She can say whatever 1146 01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:28,040 the hell she wants to say. 1147 01:14:28,860 --> 01:14:31,320 It's true about me and Mrs. Gill. You guys all saw the proof. 1148 01:14:32,810 --> 01:14:35,970 This is your proof? A pair of women's underwear you could have bought 1149 01:14:36,070 --> 01:14:37,130 Hey! Whoa! 1150 01:14:37,710 --> 01:14:40,010 You have that freshly bought look. Give them to me! 1151 01:14:41,730 --> 01:14:44,310 Give them to me! Give them to me! Give them to me! 1152 01:14:45,010 --> 01:14:47,110 Give them to me! 1153 01:14:47,870 --> 01:14:48,870 Give me them! 1154 01:14:50,170 --> 01:14:53,050 We always knew you were full of crap anyway. 1155 01:15:21,930 --> 01:15:22,930 Think you know? 1156 01:15:24,330 --> 01:15:26,510 Kip, I've had a long day. 1157 01:15:26,890 --> 01:15:29,850 I don't have time to play guessing games. I'm talking about Patsy. 1158 01:15:31,390 --> 01:15:35,250 She comes up to me today in front of everybody and accuses me of spreading 1159 01:15:35,250 --> 01:15:36,250 rumors about us. 1160 01:15:36,470 --> 01:15:38,190 I can't believe you put her up to that. 1161 01:15:38,430 --> 01:15:39,830 I didn't put her up to it, Kip. 1162 01:15:40,950 --> 01:15:43,510 You told me you didn't start the rumor. I accept that. 1163 01:15:44,590 --> 01:15:45,590 Let's just leave it there. 1164 01:15:46,910 --> 01:15:48,190 There was more to it, though. 1165 01:15:49,370 --> 01:15:51,010 She can't blame people for talking. 1166 01:15:54,190 --> 01:15:55,930 But that's the way it always goes for me. 1167 01:15:56,550 --> 01:16:00,070 As soon as I get close to a girl, she backs off. 1168 01:16:02,250 --> 01:16:04,230 Kip, listen to me. 1169 01:16:05,290 --> 01:16:07,710 There was never anything more between us than friendship. 1170 01:16:08,570 --> 01:16:09,950 And there was never going to be. 1171 01:16:16,150 --> 01:16:17,290 That's great, Miss Gill. 1172 01:16:18,450 --> 01:16:20,830 Are you saying that I'm not even a little bit special to you? 1173 01:16:25,420 --> 01:16:26,880 That was the last time that I saw Kip. 1174 01:16:28,420 --> 01:16:30,120 And three days later, he killed himself. 1175 01:16:36,700 --> 01:16:37,700 Thank you. 1176 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:39,300 No further questions, Your Honor. 1177 01:16:51,820 --> 01:16:55,360 So it's your testimony that you never had sexual relations with Kip 1178 01:16:55,460 --> 01:16:56,460 Yes, it is. 1179 01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:00,080 But you do admit to visiting him in his home after hours on two occasions. 1180 01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:01,840 Yes. 1181 01:17:02,300 --> 01:17:05,400 Well, it's an interesting coincidence, wouldn't you say? 1182 01:17:05,820 --> 01:17:07,880 These three boys say you went over there twice. 1183 01:17:08,220 --> 01:17:11,400 You say you went over there twice. Can you account for this similarity in both 1184 01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:12,400 stories? 1185 01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:14,560 No, I can't. 1186 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:19,580 All I can figure is that maybe Kip told them that I had been over there as part 1187 01:17:19,580 --> 01:17:21,040 of his proof that we were sleeping together. 1188 01:17:22,670 --> 01:17:25,670 Do you deny having dinner with Patsy Newbeck on November 17th? 1189 01:17:26,550 --> 01:17:28,050 Not the way she described it. 1190 01:17:28,450 --> 01:17:29,490 We had dinner, yes. 1191 01:17:29,770 --> 01:17:30,850 Oh, I see. 1192 01:17:31,090 --> 01:17:33,590 So once again, only the sex part is a lie. 1193 01:17:33,830 --> 01:17:37,910 Your Honor, I think we can all do without Mr. Cleaver's sidebar 1194 01:17:38,130 --> 01:17:38,909 I agree. 1195 01:17:38,910 --> 01:17:40,110 Watch your tone, Mr. Cleaver. 1196 01:17:40,550 --> 01:17:41,550 Sorry, Your Honor. 1197 01:17:42,790 --> 01:17:47,890 Mrs. Gill, about these problems you say you were helping Kip with, do you have 1198 01:17:47,890 --> 01:17:50,210 some training that qualifies you to counsel troubled kids? 1199 01:17:50,710 --> 01:17:52,090 No special training, no. 1200 01:17:52,490 --> 01:17:55,550 The school has guidance counselors, don't they? Couldn't you have referred 1201 01:17:55,550 --> 01:17:56,550 to one of them? 1202 01:17:56,590 --> 01:17:58,750 Or told his parents that he was having difficulty? 1203 01:17:59,370 --> 01:18:02,470 Some of his problems had to do with his family, Mr. Cleaver. 1204 01:18:03,070 --> 01:18:05,170 So no, I didn't think that was appropriate. 1205 01:18:06,310 --> 01:18:10,490 And when you realized Kip was developing romantic feelings for you, you also 1206 01:18:10,490 --> 01:18:11,770 declined to tell anyone in authority. 1207 01:18:12,050 --> 01:18:14,990 Was that because you were afraid of being asked what you'd done to lead him 1208 01:18:16,290 --> 01:18:17,350 Perhaps that was part of it. 1209 01:18:17,570 --> 01:18:19,290 Because you had led him on? 1210 01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,940 Because women get asked that question a lot. 1211 01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:30,620 Mrs. Gill, let's talk about the second time you went to visit Kip at his home. 1212 01:18:31,100 --> 01:18:33,740 I noticed you didn't have much to say about that on direct examination. 1213 01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,980 There wasn't much to tell. It was pretty much the same as the first time. 1214 01:18:39,480 --> 01:18:41,320 He called me. He sounded upset. 1215 01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,640 I picked him up. We drove around. 1216 01:18:44,380 --> 01:18:46,100 When he calmed down, I brought him home. 1217 01:18:46,700 --> 01:18:47,700 Mrs. Gill. 1218 01:18:47,710 --> 01:18:50,150 Your own testimony proves this was a far different encounter. 1219 01:18:50,810 --> 01:18:53,990 Because by then, you knew that this young boy was interested in a lot more 1220 01:18:53,990 --> 01:18:54,990 hand -holding, didn't you? 1221 01:18:59,650 --> 01:19:01,550 Yes, I knew he had a crush on me. 1222 01:19:01,770 --> 01:19:03,470 And yet, you went to see him anyway. 1223 01:19:03,730 --> 01:19:08,290 You, a married woman, a teacher. This student calls you, and you rush right 1224 01:19:08,290 --> 01:19:09,350 there. You drop whatever you're doing. 1225 01:19:09,570 --> 01:19:12,330 Now, would you do that if you didn't have some feeling for him? He sounded 1226 01:19:12,330 --> 01:19:13,610 he was in trouble, Mr. Cleaver. 1227 01:19:13,830 --> 01:19:17,050 No, Mrs. Gill. I submit, you went because you cared for him, too. 1228 01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:23,440 Mr. Cleaver, I admit it. I cared. 1229 01:19:24,020 --> 01:19:27,340 It's hard not to care about a kid who wants to be liked so much. And yes, 1230 01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:31,360 looking back, I think that maybe it wasn't the greatest idea to go over 1231 01:19:31,740 --> 01:19:35,180 But at the time when he called me begging me, please come, Mrs. Gill, 1232 01:19:35,180 --> 01:19:38,240 only person in the world I can talk to. I didn't stop to think. Your Honor. Gee, 1233 01:19:38,340 --> 01:19:42,200 what's everyone going to think? I just went. Your Honor. I cared. Mrs. Gill. I 1234 01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,260 thought good teachers were supposed to care. Mrs. Gill. 1235 01:19:45,060 --> 01:19:46,060 That's enough now. 1236 01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:48,780 Mrs. Gill, do you need a moment? 1237 01:19:57,110 --> 01:19:58,110 Mr. Cleaver. 1238 01:19:58,530 --> 01:20:00,270 At this time, I have no further questions. 1239 01:20:14,430 --> 01:20:21,290 Ladies and gentlemen, during jury selection, I asked 1240 01:20:21,290 --> 01:20:23,950 each of you what you thought we should expect of our teachers. 1241 01:20:25,260 --> 01:20:29,140 Each of you indicated that you expected teachers not only to teach, but also to 1242 01:20:29,140 --> 01:20:31,780 be role models, to provide examples. 1243 01:20:32,660 --> 01:20:37,820 Measuring from that standard, it's clear that Paulette Gill failed in her 1244 01:20:37,820 --> 01:20:39,820 responsibility to the students in her care. 1245 01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,400 She claims she drew the line at intimacy. 1246 01:20:44,100 --> 01:20:47,100 But three young men from this town say otherwise. 1247 01:20:48,380 --> 01:20:52,280 The defense has not produced a single witness who can explain what would 1248 01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:57,260 motivate... three boys of outstanding reputation, to come in here and lie to 1249 01:20:57,260 --> 01:21:03,580 you. On the other hand, many witnesses can testify to the fact that time after 1250 01:21:03,580 --> 01:21:07,460 time, this defendant crossed over the line to what many people would consider 1251 01:21:07,460 --> 01:21:09,220 unacceptable conduct. 1252 01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,500 She herself admits she met with Kip repeatedly outside of school. 1253 01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:20,040 Is it possible that this attractive, sexually sophisticated woman Did not 1254 01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:23,480 comprehend the effect this would have on an inexperienced young boy? 1255 01:21:25,020 --> 01:21:31,700 Let us send a message that in this town, traditional standards of decency are 1256 01:21:31,700 --> 01:21:35,720 still the measure of behavior, and that those who don't adhere to those 1257 01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:37,760 standards will be punished. 1258 01:21:38,700 --> 01:21:44,340 If you apply common sense as well as the law, I am confident that you will 1259 01:21:44,340 --> 01:21:48,620 conclude that Paulette Gill is guilty of sexual assault. 1260 01:21:51,110 --> 01:21:51,650 Thank you 1261 01:21:51,650 --> 01:22:03,910 From 1262 01:22:03,910 --> 01:22:10,790 the beginning I felt that the most extraordinary thing about this case 1263 01:22:10,790 --> 01:22:15,190 was that it was being prosecuted at all She was intimate with him. 1264 01:22:15,810 --> 01:22:21,160 That's what they say Maybe Kip and Paulette did have a kind of intimacy The 1265 01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:25,000 that occurs when one person reaches out to another person and says you're not 1266 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:26,000 alone. 1267 01:22:26,540 --> 01:22:29,620 The state has suggested that this case represents a sign of the times. 1268 01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:31,160 I agree. 1269 01:22:31,540 --> 01:22:35,840 I think that the prosecution of this woman suggests that we have reached an 1270 01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:41,040 when simple human kindness is so rare that those who act out of it come under 1271 01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:42,040 immediate suspicion. 1272 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,740 Particularly by the people who in this case were unable to do what Mrs. Gill 1273 01:22:46,740 --> 01:22:47,740 able to do. 1274 01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:48,760 Reach this boy. 1275 01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:53,940 And it is my opinion that they want to blame her for his death because their 1276 01:22:53,940 --> 01:22:56,080 only alternative is to blame themselves. 1277 01:22:57,820 --> 01:23:00,140 As to why these young men lied, I can only speculate. 1278 01:23:01,100 --> 01:23:04,620 Maybe in the wake of Kip's death, they honestly wondered if there wasn't 1279 01:23:04,620 --> 01:23:06,020 something to his story after all. 1280 01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:07,820 Maybe they felt guilty. 1281 01:23:08,700 --> 01:23:13,380 And if the price of easing that guilt was the reputation of this teacher, this 1282 01:23:13,380 --> 01:23:15,300 outsider, well, so be it. 1283 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,060 Remember, folks, they could not have foreseen it would come to this. 1284 01:23:19,980 --> 01:23:24,200 They simply told their parents, who called the police, who informed the 1285 01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:31,060 Somebody tipped the press off, and here we are, deciding the fate of this woman 1286 01:23:31,060 --> 01:23:35,460 on the basis of this same absurd, childish story. 1287 01:23:37,420 --> 01:23:41,220 It has come to this because at every step of the way, people who should have 1288 01:23:41,220 --> 01:23:44,020 known better stood by and did nothing. 1289 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,040 Well, I submit to you now. 1290 01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:53,160 At its high time, somebody in this case stood up and did the right thing. 1291 01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:57,840 And I'm sure that you will. 1292 01:24:27,500 --> 01:24:30,360 They have two weeks of testimony to go over. I'll be very surprised if we hear 1293 01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:31,360 anything before tomorrow. 1294 01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:36,140 Paulette, I've just been informed by the Baltimore's attorney that the 1295 01:24:36,140 --> 01:24:38,260 Baltimore's are filing a civil action against him. 1296 01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:39,600 On what ground? 1297 01:24:39,700 --> 01:24:42,260 I haven't had a chance to go through it. I'm sure they've cooked up some theory 1298 01:24:42,260 --> 01:24:44,100 of how Paulette deprived them of their son. 1299 01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:46,400 Paulette, now this is really a nonsense suit. 1300 01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:48,080 It's going to be okay. No, it's not. 1301 01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,020 This thing is never going to end. 1302 01:24:52,860 --> 01:24:54,840 It's all right. No, it's not. 1303 01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:56,080 I love you, Paulette. 1304 01:24:56,270 --> 01:24:57,270 We'll get through this. 1305 01:24:57,430 --> 01:25:00,830 I'd just like to say that money is not the issue here. 1306 01:25:01,310 --> 01:25:05,330 My concern is that this woman not be allowed to teach anywhere else. 1307 01:25:06,210 --> 01:25:07,630 My son Kip is gone. 1308 01:25:08,130 --> 01:25:11,390 But what about the other kids that are still out there? What do they have to 1309 01:25:11,390 --> 01:25:12,389 look up to? 1310 01:25:12,390 --> 01:25:14,750 What are their teachers representing to them? 1311 01:25:16,410 --> 01:25:19,770 Isn't this lawsuit a little inconsistent with your testimony last week when you 1312 01:25:19,770 --> 01:25:22,290 said that you did not blame Mrs. Gill for Pip's death? 1313 01:25:22,630 --> 01:25:24,610 Well, since then, new information has come to light. 1314 01:25:24,810 --> 01:25:27,630 Mrs. Gill's own testimony shows that such an influence exists. 1315 01:25:28,050 --> 01:25:30,890 Ma 'am, are you just looking for a scapegoat? 1316 01:25:32,490 --> 01:25:34,290 That's not the kind of people we are. 1317 01:25:34,770 --> 01:25:35,770 Jerry's back. 1318 01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,300 What do you suppose it means, jury only being gone an hour? 1319 01:26:26,620 --> 01:26:28,680 They had their minds made up before they went out. 1320 01:26:39,860 --> 01:26:41,400 Will the defendant please rise? 1321 01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:52,800 Madam Foreman, have you reached a verdict? 1322 01:26:55,150 --> 01:26:56,170 We have, Your Honor. 1323 01:27:00,790 --> 01:27:06,070 In the matter of the State of California v. Paulette Gill, we, the jury, find 1324 01:27:06,070 --> 01:27:09,090 the defendant, Paulette Gill, not guilty. 1325 01:27:56,140 --> 01:27:59,080 All I can say is the jury has spoken and we accept their decision. Now you'll 1326 01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:00,160 have to excuse me. Okay. 1327 01:28:03,420 --> 01:28:04,420 Oh, Paulette. 1328 01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,120 You decide you want to get your teaching credentials back. 1329 01:28:07,660 --> 01:28:08,660 Let me know. 1330 01:28:09,180 --> 01:28:10,440 Oh, I'll never teach again. 1331 01:28:10,860 --> 01:28:13,220 Why don't we get the credentials back and then you can think it over. 106867

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