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Although fictionalized, the following
film was inspired by actual events.
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Hey, Paul.
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Nobody kills himself on a grade.
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I mean, especially Kip. I don't think he
passed a class his whole life.
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Hey,
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Paul.
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How'd you hear?
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I told him it'd be all right.
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Did he leave a note or anything?
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Hey, check it out.
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She has some nerve coming around.
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What are you doing?
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You can believe her showing her face
around here.
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Believe it?
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Yeah, I believe it.
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The first thing today just made any
sense.
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Today we were supposed to talk about the
contrast in styles among writers who
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came to prominence during the Jazz Age.
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But at the moment, Hemingway and
Fitzgerald seem pretty irrelevant to me.
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I'd like to share something with you I
think is appropriate.
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Patsy, would you do the honors?
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The Buck in the Snow by Edna St. Vincent
Millay.
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How strange a thing is death?
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Bringing to his knees, bringing to his
antlers the buck in the snow.
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How strange a thing.
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Could I see you a moment, please?
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Go on.
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How strange a thing.
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A mile away by now.
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Right here.
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Miss Gill.
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Mrs. Gill, yes.
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I'm Detective Morse, San Diego PD. I
just need to talk to you a couple of
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minutes. I'll let you through here. I'd
like to see my office.
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Have a seat, please.
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Ma 'am, I'm doing some follow -up on the
death of Kip Bausch. I understand you
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were one of his teachers.
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Yes. As a matter of fact, I would have
had him this period for junior English.
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Have you ever been to his house?
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The night he died?
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What about before that?
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Ever visit Kip at home prior to his
death?
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Yes, I have.
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Is your husband aware of this?
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Look, maybe you better tell me what this
is about.
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Well, ma 'am, there have been
allegations made by several of Kip's
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that you and Kip Oshmoyer were lovers.
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A high school is a rumor mill,
detective. That was one of many stories
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the round.
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But I can assure you that's all it is, a
rumor.
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Mrs. Gill, the people who are making
these allegations are not saying they
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you were having sex with the boy.
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They're saying they went over to his
house a couple of weekends in a row and
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watched you have sex with him.
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Look, I've been in trouble before, Mr.
Turner. Got a few priors, but this time
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swear they got the wrong guy. I got the
picture. Can you tell me how the window
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of Dr.
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Frank's Mercedes came to be broken?
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I have no idea.
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I think I was just the first guy the
cops saw when they got to the scene.
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Story of my life. Wrong place, the wrong
time.
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I'll call the DA's office, see what
they're offering.
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Well, you got my number, right?
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I'll be in touch.
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Everyone's entitled to a defense,
Doreen.
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Oh, I need you to hold down the fort for
a couple hours. I'm having my bow
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painted. I want to be there when they
take her out of the war. Wait, wait,
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Roger Gilger's called. He wants some
representation for his wife.
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Who?
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Honestly, Owen, you really should start
reading the paper again.
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Get my ex -wife on the phone.
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Paulette and Kip had been lovers for
some time, or so the story goes.
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Rumors started circulating, and
eventually the boys, Garrett Evans, Paul
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Preston, and Stuart Cardale, confronted
Kip about it. Kip told them the rumors
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were true, and when they didn't believe
him, they decided to prove it to them by
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arranging for them to come over and
watch him having sex with him.
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This kid sounds like some victim.
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Why'd he kill himself?
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Nobody seems to know.
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But the night of the funeral, the boys
told their parents what they'd seen. The
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parents called the police. The school
fired Mrs. Gill a month later. Our paper
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broke the story. You say that with some
pride, Roberta.
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Well, that's a big story, Owen. I mean,
you know.
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Attractive young teacher. Secret trips
witnessed by the sons of prominent
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citizens. Suicide.
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Why the sudden interest?
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Oh, I don't know.
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I suppose I like a good scandal as much
as the next guy.
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No, you don't.
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You're her lawyer, aren't you? It's not
100 % yet.
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I'm meeting her and her husband tonight.
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Well, when they're ready to do an
interview, I want to be your first call.
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I'm not your ex -wife for nothing.
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Well, I hate to burst your bubble, but I
have a feeling this one's going to get
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settled quick.
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Are you sure about that?
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We hear some pretty important people
have an interest in seeing this go all
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way. Like who?
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You know, Kip is from Briarcliff. The
people out there have a lot of political
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pull.
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I'm sure the district attorney's office
will put up a big show of outrage.
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But at the end of the day, this is a
rape case where the victim can't testify
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and the accused is a 28 -year -old
female.
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They have bigger fish to fry.
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Of course, the press thinks she did it.
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Well, I suppose we do. I mean, the boys
all pass polygraphs, you know.
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Besides, why would anyone make up a
story like that?
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I've had the car a long time, but she's
got real low mileage.
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I can't interest you in a trade -in?
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No.
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You don't need two cars. Besides, my
wife can't drive a stick.
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She looks real clean. Tell you what,
I'll grab my jacket and we'll take over
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stick.
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We've got to be at the lawyers at five.
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You represented the guy at work on a
DWI.
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This guy said he was definitely over the
limit, but somehow, all in turn, he got
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the whole thing thrown out of court.
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What? That guy recognized me.
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You want to blow him off? We'll take the
car down somewhere else and sell it.
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No. What I really want is for you not to
sell the car.
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Why don't we meet with this lawyer first
and see how much it's going to be? I
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already asked. It's $5 ,000 just to walk
through the door.
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You ready to go, Mr. Gill?
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Paulette, car doesn't mean anything to
me.
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I know that's not true.
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I'll be right back.
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For those of you who have never had
class with me before, let me tell you
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you can expect.
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It's junior English.
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We're going to be studying some of the
great works of literature.
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This here is Kip Bauschmore.
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Hey, Kip. Oh, no, here's trouble.
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Nice to see you too, Patsy.
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Hi. Hi.
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Let's go find a seat.
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Go, now.
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I think I'm in love.
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One of the likeliest jokes on
unemployment books, Meyer.
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How are you, Mrs. Gill? I'd separate him
from his cronies.
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He's a lot less funny without an
audience.
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Where are you going?
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You want me to move, right?
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I was just explaining my philosophy of
teaching, Kip, and part of it is that
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every kid that walks through that door
starts off with an A.
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That means that at this moment, you're
one of my best students.
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I'm sorry, Mr. Turner's with a client at
the moment.
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Mrs. Gill, on Friday you will be charged
with two counts of sexual assault.
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Am I going to have to spend time in
jail?
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You will be out in an hour, tops.
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Now, the good news is their case sounds
very weak. I gather they don't have a
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shred of physical evidence, and
obviously the victim can't testify.
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That's just what the other lawyer said
going into the school board hearing.
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Mr. Gill, I understand you were out of
town on the nights in question. Is that
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right? That's right. I have National
Guard duty two weekends a month.
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I do have an alibi for one of those
nights I was at dinner with Patsy
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Who's that, a girlfriend?
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Another one of my students.
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I understand you also spent some time
with Kip outside of the school.
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Would you describe him as promiscuous?
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What the hell kind of question is that?
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An important one.
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Promiscuity can be a defense on sexual
assault.
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That's going to be your defense?
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She did it, but it's okay because he
wasn't a virgin? Mr. Gill, look. No, you
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look. I thought I explained this over
the phone. My wife didn't do this. These
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people are on a witch hunt.
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And we need a lawyer who's willing to
take them on. Mr. Gill, I understand
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you have both been through hell.
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Now, if you want something for your pain
and suffering, I suggest you contact a
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civil attorney.
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I'm a criminal defense lawyer.
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My job is to see your wife acquitted by
whatever means the law allows.
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It's been really tough on Roger.
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After I was fired, he had to drop out of
school and get a job.
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And the publicity has...
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It's been really hard to take.
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Well, I can tell you it's only going to
get worse.
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That's why I'd like to explore the
possibility of a plea bargain.
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But I'm innocent.
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You didn't ask me that.
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But I am.
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Sometimes I think those of us in law
enforcement can lose track of what's
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important. Like being able to send your
kids off to school without worrying
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about them being molested.
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So am I concerned that the prosecution
of Paulette Gill is a waste of time and
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money? No.
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In fact, I would say the message I'm
getting is quite the opposite.
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Hold
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it.
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Do you know Earl Cleaver? He heads our
sex crimes division.
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By reputation.
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Your reputation precedes you also, Mr.
Turner.
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Shall we find a room?
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I understand your office initially
declined to press charges?
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Only because of the difficulties
associated with prosecuting without
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testimony. Since then, new evidence has
surfaced that convinced us that this
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prosecution was warranted.
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I was just telling Earl what a fool it
was this morning.
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Given the nature of this case, I think
it's safe to say we should all
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intense media scrutiny.
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Yes, well, it's good to see you're doing
all you can to minimize that, Earl.
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Given all the hoopla, I'm surprised you
didn't assign a second chair.
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Oh, uh, Hugh is the second chair.
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I'm the lead prosecutor on this.
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You mean you personally?
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Hugh is a fine prosecutor, but the DA
and I both felt that given the public
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interest in this case, the most
experienced hand should be put on.
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But we're getting ahead of ourselves,
and we're here to avoid going to trial.
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Here's our offer.
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She pleads guilty to one felony count.
We drop the other charge. We recommend
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that she does two years probation.
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And we'd also want some guarantee that
she never teaches school again.
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Are you serious?
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It's a fair offer.
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If this goes to trial, we'll be asking
for the maximum on both counts. She
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do four years. Oh, come on.
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There's no evidence that this
relationship, if it even existed, was
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consensual.
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That's not informed consent, is it?
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We like our case, Mr. Turner. We have
three eyewitnesses. These boys and nice
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kids. Good, solid families and nothing
to gain by lying. She'll impress the
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out of the grand jury.
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There's also a statement she gave the
police on it. She acknowledges she was
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the house twice in November to help him
on some personal problems.
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She did it.
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We know she did it.
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And it's going to be easy to prove.
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Well, I still can't take her on offer
like that. She claims she's innocent.
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I guess we'll see in court.
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Seen any good?
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He was outstanding.
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Hasn't had a lot of trial work, though,
lately.
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Burnt out?
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Miss Gill.
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Did I tell you on TV again?
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Yeah, I'm getting to be a real
celebrity, Danny.
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I'll tell you, it's not much fun.
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Well, at least you look good. I mean,
that's something, right?
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What's with the book?
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Don't tell me you're back in summer
school.
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Afraid so.
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Now I know what happens. The weather
turns nice, suddenly my grades go south.
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You know, I was going to ask you, do you
think you could help me with my
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homework again this summer?
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Oh, gee, Danny, I don't think that's
such a hot idea.
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Danny!
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Oh, hell.
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Get in the house. All I was doing was
talking to him. Get in the house. Don't
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talk back to me. I will deal with you
later.
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I told you to leave him alone.
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He talked to me first. I don't care if
he did talk to you. Nothing since you
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it answered. This is my fault. What's
going on? It's okay, Roger.
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Your wife.
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was talking to my boy. I told her last
time I would call the police, and I
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Well, maybe what your boy needs is a
leash. Roger, that's not necessary.
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Look, you're on my property, lady. Now
get the hell off before I call the cops.
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You know something?
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I cannot wait until they lock you up.
People like you do not belong in decent
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company. Roger.
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You, get out.
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I wish you wouldn't get into it with
her, Roger. You know what she's like.
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I'm glad you're home.
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I'm dying to call Owen.
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Trial starts in eight weeks.
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You called him? That's right.
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I knew he wasn't going to be able to
make any deals.
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I figured I'd spare you the grief.
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I don't want to be spared, all right?
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Roger, I'm the one who's going on trial.
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You sure seem relaxed about it. What is
that supposed to mean?
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Well, you're talking to Danny again.
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Despite what his mother told you,
despite what I told you, you're talking
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again. Well, he initiated it.
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The law says he can't initiate anything,
Paulette.
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The law says that you're the adult.
Whatever happens is your fault.
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I'm not going to stop being a human
being because of what somebody might
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All right, have it your way, Paulette.
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Just remember those people whose
opinions you're so blithely dismissing.
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That's who's going to be sitting in that
jury box.
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I hope your coach isn't going to give
you grief about missing football
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He doesn't have much choice.
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If I don't get my grades up, I won't be
on the team.
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You know, Kip, you have a real flair for
language.
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Spelling, however.
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I am usually getting off of practice
about this time.
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Noticed you're always still here.
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A lot of kids need extra help this term.
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Your husband doesn't mind?
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I mean, if I were married to a woman who
looked like you, I'd want you home.
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Not hanging out with a bunch of jerky
teenagers.
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Roger's in grad school.
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He spends most of his nights at the
library.
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You know, Kip, I encourage you guys to
say whatever's on your mind.
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But I think some things should be off
limits.
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I'm sorry, Mrs. Gill. I meant it as a
compliment, really.
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I'm still your teacher.
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And I'm a married woman.
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Don't compliment me too much.
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Hi, Mrs. Newbeck.
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Patsy Newbeck?
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Yeah? My name is Fred Cobb.
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I'm an investigator working for Paulette
Gill.
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I was wondering if I might ask you a few
questions.
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Mrs. Gill was telling me that you and
she had dinner on November 17th last
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We had dinner together last night.
There's not one that really sticks out.
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Sorry. Now, Mrs. Newbeck, Mrs. Gill also
told me that when she was fired, you
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went to the school principal and told
him that these boys had to be lying.
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You think we could talk a little bit
about that?
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All right.
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I'll come in for a moment.
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Thank you.
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Maria, por favor.
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Look, it's true that I went to the
principal.
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But just to say that I didn't believe
these guys.
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I never said that I had any firsthand
information about what they might or
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not have seen.
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But you did have dinner with her on one
of the nights in question?
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I might have.
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I just don't remember.
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I'm sorry, Mr. Cobb. I don't think I'm
going to be of much help.
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What's going on here?
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Who are you?
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Fred Cobb.
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Mr. Newbeck, is it?
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He's a private investigator for
Paulette, Daddy.
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I think you'd better go.
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You have no business sneaking around the
neighborhood trying to catch people off
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guard. But I invited him in. Stay out of
it.
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My attorney is Buddy Reston of Reston
and Myers.
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Yeah, write that down.
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You have any more questions for my
daughter, you give him a call.
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Oh, and thanks for your time, Miss
Newbeck.
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Let me have Evie Boshmore, please.
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Evie! Don Newbeck.
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Listen, I think it might be a good idea
if we got everybody together.
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Hey, let's not overreact here. It's not
like she wasn't going to put on a
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defense. So I spoke to Earl Cleaver, let
him know what's going on. I also spoke
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to my own attorney, who tells me that
we're under no legal obligation to
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cooperate. What about witnesses planning
on testifying for the prosecution?
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Makes no difference.
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Suey and Garrett are under 18. They
can't even be contacted without your
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consent. But Paul just turned 18, Don.
He still has to give his consent,
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Unless her attorney gets a court order.
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Which Cleaver thought was very unlikely.
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Would you excuse me for just a moment?
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I'm so sorry you all got dragged into
this.
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Evie, you put that thought out of your
head.
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Garrett has told me many times that he
has no regrets. And Stewie and Paul feel
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the same way.
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Hey, where are you going?
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Out. Without saying hello to our guests?
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I'm in a hurry.
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Suit yourself.
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But the problem will still be here when
you get back.
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Look, Daddy, for the last time, I don't
know anything about Paulette and Kip. I
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think you do know something.
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The way you and that Gill woman palled
around, hell, you probably know
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everything. Patsy, do you understand
that it's not just about Kip's family
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anymore? Do you know that if Mrs. Gill
is found not guilty, she can turn around
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and sue the boys and their families, our
friends, for everything they own?
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And there's a bigger picture here,
Patsy. There really is.
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Somebody has got to protect our way of
life from sleazy influences like that.
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you understand that if you go to a
public school that is better and safer
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most private ones, you think that
happens by accident?
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Well, if it happened in Briarcliff,
Daddy, I'm sure you had something to do
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it.
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Owen?
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Hey, Fred Owen.
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How'd it go this week?
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Same as last.
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Must have talked to about two dozen
kids, some of the teachers, too.
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Nobody knows anything.
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Did you get through the DA's file yet?
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Almost. And I'll tell you, they're not
having the same trouble we are.
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I've defended murderers who didn't have
this many people saying bad things about
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them.
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Mrs. Gill frequently wore tight -fitting
sweaters to school where you could see
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her nipples.
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Mrs. Gill had parties for students in
her home where she served margaritas.
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Mrs. Gill gave Kip...
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Roger Gill told me this thing was
shaping up as a real witch hunt.
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So what now?
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Once you get past all the hearsay and
innuendo, Cleaver's whole case really
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comes down to the testimony of these
boys.
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I think our defense has to be that they
are just flat out lying.
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00:25:22,180 --> 00:25:23,180
What's their motive?
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00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,820
Well, their friend had just killed
himself. Somebody had to take the heat,
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00:25:25,900 --> 00:25:29,520
right? These boys are real Eagle Scouts,
so even if they were looking for a
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scapegoat, it's hard to believe they'd
commit perjury to do it.
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Kip died on Thursday. His funeral was on
Monday.
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That gave him three days to cook this
thing up.
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From now on, I want you to do what you
can find out about where they were that
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weekend. Yeah, I'll do my best.
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I haven't seen you this worked up in
quite a while, though.
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00:25:48,330 --> 00:25:52,230
You know, I don't mind a fair fight, but
these rich folks are ganging up on our
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00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:53,870
client, Fred. That irritates me.
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They may be ganging up on her, but that
doesn't make her innocent.
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00:25:58,030 --> 00:25:59,170
You have doubts about that?
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She seems like a real nice lady.
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On the other hand, it's been my
experience that there's usually at least
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little fire at the center of this much
smoke.
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00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,380
I don't want you to be concerned about
this lack of cooperation. It's not
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00:26:14,380 --> 00:26:17,100
unusual. And Cobb will keep talking to
kids right through the trial.
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What about Patsy?
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00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,080
She wasn't too helpful. But calling her
presented certain problems anyway.
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00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:23,579
Like what?
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She's not a perfect alibi. You could
have had dinner with Patsy and then gone
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00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,440
over to Kip's.
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00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,160
And I think we want to soft -pedal your
extracurricular relationship with these
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kids as much as possible.
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00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,120
Now, a number of people have commented
on Kip's flirtatiousness with you. I'd
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like to know a little more about that.
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00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:41,500
It was strictly a teasing kind of thing.
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For example, there was one day last
term, we hadn't really spent much time
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together, so you can imagine my surprise
when he blurts out, I would kill the
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guy who would make love to you.
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00:26:54,060 --> 00:26:55,740
What is that supposed to mean?
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00:26:57,020 --> 00:26:58,700
That's my new pickup line, Mrs. Gill.
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00:26:58,940 --> 00:26:59,940
What do you think?
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00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,340
I think a girl your age would probably
prefer a less direct approach.
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00:27:04,780 --> 00:27:06,260
Guess I'll have to keep practicing?
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00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,560
Yeah.
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00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,740
You never reported this behavior to
anyone?
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If I reported every boy for every
comment he'd made, I would have spent
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time in the detention office.
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00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,280
I understand, but subsequently you went
to his home alone in the evening.
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00:27:24,660 --> 00:27:28,060
Now, the prosecution can argue that you
were responding to a sexual invitation
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from him.
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00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,920
What nobody has mentioned yet is that
there was another side to Kip.
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When he was alone with me, he was
completely different.
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00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:38,120
Serious, sensitive.
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00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,320
That was the side I was interested in.
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00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,620
I don't think he believes me.
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00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,300
It's not his job to believe you.
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00:27:46,580 --> 00:27:49,220
It's a pickup line business. You never
told me about that either.
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00:27:50,660 --> 00:27:52,340
You never told me he said anything that
overt.
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00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:53,679
Didn't I?
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00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,640
No. I guess I was just embarrassed.
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00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:57,300
I'm sorry.
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00:27:58,020 --> 00:28:01,960
Listen, it's still light. You want to
stop and get some coffee or ice cream or
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00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:02,960
something?
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00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:04,599
No, Paula.
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I just want to get home.
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This is Jake McGee here at the San Diego
County Courthouse where the crowd is
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building and it's the first day of the
Paulette Hill sex trial. The doors of
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courthouse will soon be opening.
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This is Mary Kay Andrade reporting live
from the San Diego County Courthouse.
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This is Joel Friedman. Okay, here's a
sound check. This is the first day of
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sensational Paulette Hill sexual assault
trial.
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Relax, Roger. We have plenty of time.
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I'm going to wait outside.
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So today's a big day, huh?
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Yeah, we'll be leaving for court soon.
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Good luck.
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00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,240
Thank you.
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00:29:32,580 --> 00:29:33,580
So how's school?
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00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,120
Well, actually, I'm running for student
council.
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00:29:38,420 --> 00:29:39,420
Can you believe it?
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00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,540
Danny, that's wonderful.
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00:29:41,060 --> 00:29:45,120
Yeah, I mean, it's just for class rep,
but actually I got to give a speech this
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00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,260
afternoon. I had to come up with a
platform and everything.
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00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,600
Uh, do you want to take a look at it?
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00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,320
Oh.
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00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,060
Now's not really a good time.
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00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,800
Besides, your mom would kill me.
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00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,680
She already left for work.
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00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,640
Please, Miss Gill, it'll only take a
second.
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00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,440
All right.
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00:30:12,980 --> 00:30:14,120
Paulette, for crying out loud!
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00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,300
It's all right, Roger. His mom's at
work. I'll just be one minute.
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00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,600
You know, it's great.
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00:30:27,420 --> 00:30:32,860
Kids really respond to her, huh?
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00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,480
Oh, yeah.
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00:30:35,020 --> 00:30:36,440
My wife loves teaching that one.
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00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:38,820
She's got a real gift for it.
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The truth, the whole truth, and nothing
but the truth, so help you God?
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I do.
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Would you state your name for the
record?
479
00:31:06,340 --> 00:31:07,800
My name is Evie Bauschmoyer.
480
00:31:08,340 --> 00:31:12,140
I live on Bridal Ridge Road with my
husband Wayne and my daughter Tracy.
481
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,940
My son Kip also lived there with us.
482
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:21,100
Mrs. Bauschmoyer, I know this is
painful, but would you describe how you
483
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:22,360
learned that Kip had killed himself?
484
00:31:25,980 --> 00:31:27,920
I'd picked my daughter Tracy up from
school.
485
00:31:28,810 --> 00:31:31,090
I had just finished grocery shopping.
486
00:31:38,050 --> 00:31:39,050
Tracy?
487
00:31:39,510 --> 00:31:41,210
Is your brother in this room?
488
00:31:41,650 --> 00:31:44,270
If that boy skips school again, I don't
know what I'm going to do.
489
00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:49,310
Tracy?
490
00:31:51,630 --> 00:31:52,630
Tracy?
491
00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:03,220
He's sick, honey.
492
00:32:03,500 --> 00:32:04,500
Come with me.
493
00:32:04,940 --> 00:32:05,940
Tracy, now!
494
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,520
Call a doctor.
495
00:32:08,980 --> 00:32:12,420
I called my office. I asked them to
notify the authorities.
496
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,700
I needed to deal with my daughter right
then.
497
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,320
Then I phoned my husband.
498
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,920
Shortly after this, people began to
arrive?
499
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:22,680
Yes.
500
00:32:23,060 --> 00:32:24,520
By then, it had been on the news.
501
00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:28,820
Did you see the defendant, Paulette
Gill, at your house that night?
502
00:32:30,260 --> 00:32:31,260
Yes, I did.
503
00:32:31,470 --> 00:32:34,130
And at Kip's funeral the following
Monday, did you see her there, too?
504
00:32:36,330 --> 00:32:37,550
Not at the funeral, no.
505
00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:40,310
But afterwards, there was an open house.
506
00:32:41,210 --> 00:32:43,070
I'm Paulette Gill, Mrs. Bauschmoyer.
507
00:32:43,790 --> 00:32:45,010
I had Kip her English.
508
00:32:45,790 --> 00:32:47,990
Well, thank you for coming.
509
00:32:48,790 --> 00:32:51,290
I know Kip wasn't very popular with his
teachers.
510
00:32:52,010 --> 00:32:54,270
Well, maybe that's because they didn't
really know him.
511
00:32:55,250 --> 00:32:57,610
I can tell you he was very special to
me.
512
00:32:57,950 --> 00:33:00,250
She told you he was very special to her?
513
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,520
That's what she said.
514
00:33:01,820 --> 00:33:02,820
No further questions.
515
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,780
Mrs. Bouchemoyer, isn't it true you
blame this woman for the death of your
516
00:33:15,020 --> 00:33:16,300
I wouldn't say that, no.
517
00:33:17,540 --> 00:33:19,840
Naturally, we wonder what influence she
may have had.
518
00:33:20,420 --> 00:33:24,760
Isn't it also true that when the DA's
office initially declined to file
519
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,320
you called persistently until that
decision was reversed?
520
00:33:28,110 --> 00:33:30,270
My son had been molested, Mr. Turner.
521
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:31,710
How do you know?
522
00:33:32,690 --> 00:33:34,410
I have the word of people I trust.
523
00:33:35,570 --> 00:33:38,870
Plus, my own impressions of her conduct
at the open house.
524
00:33:39,370 --> 00:33:45,930
I believe you said she came by to pay
her respects, told you she'd taught your
525
00:33:45,930 --> 00:33:48,850
son like him personally, and gave you a
hug.
526
00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:50,830
That's correct.
527
00:33:51,210 --> 00:33:53,950
What is it exactly you find so peculiar
about that, ma 'am?
528
00:33:55,290 --> 00:33:56,330
It was obvious.
529
00:33:56,700 --> 00:33:59,000
She thought of herself more as a friend
than a teacher.
530
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,000
So you find it strange that she liked
Kip enough to consider him a friend?
531
00:34:04,620 --> 00:34:05,780
Objection argumentative.
532
00:34:06,220 --> 00:34:07,220
Sustained.
533
00:34:07,940 --> 00:34:11,159
Mrs. Bauchmoyer, there were other
teachers at Kip's funeral, weren't
534
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:12,440
At the funeral?
535
00:34:13,060 --> 00:34:14,219
Not at the open house.
536
00:34:14,820 --> 00:34:19,480
On the nights of November 17 and 24, do
you have any knowledge of Paulette Gill
537
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,480
coming to your home?
538
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,199
Kip's room was at the other end of the
house.
539
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,260
We wouldn't have any idea what was going
on in there.
540
00:34:26,620 --> 00:34:29,900
You had a dog. Wouldn't your dog bark if
a stranger came to your home at night?
541
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,480
I suppose she would.
542
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,679
Do you recall her barking on either of
those nights?
543
00:34:35,420 --> 00:34:36,420
No.
544
00:34:46,460 --> 00:34:49,560
You think they'd at least send someone
out to let us know what's going on, you
545
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:50,560
know?
546
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,320
I don't know how you guys could all be
so casual about this.
547
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,960
Paul, come on, all right? We're all in
the same boat. Yeah.
548
00:34:56,510 --> 00:34:58,210
You know, it's starting to sound like
you saw you're even here.
549
00:34:58,890 --> 00:34:59,890
I'm not saying that.
550
00:35:00,850 --> 00:35:04,190
Just, you're stressed out by all this,
you know? Okay.
551
00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:06,870
Look, let's just not forget why we're
here, all right?
552
00:35:07,090 --> 00:35:08,210
Yeah, we're here for him, man.
553
00:35:08,510 --> 00:35:09,510
That's right.
554
00:35:09,810 --> 00:35:10,810
We're here for Kip.
555
00:35:15,590 --> 00:35:19,450
Come on. I don't believe it, not for a
second. You saw how she was with me just
556
00:35:19,450 --> 00:35:21,890
now. The same way in class, always
looking at me.
557
00:35:22,090 --> 00:35:22,868
That's Paul.
558
00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:24,430
She's like that with everybody. No,
she's not.
559
00:35:24,910 --> 00:35:26,910
Look, I knew she was interested in me
from the beginning.
560
00:35:27,170 --> 00:35:30,810
One night I hit on her, and she's like,
oh, no, I'm a teacher and I'm married.
561
00:35:30,910 --> 00:35:31,910
So I figured I was wrong.
562
00:35:32,030 --> 00:35:34,830
Then a few weeks later, she asked me to
go have coffee with her. She started
563
00:35:34,830 --> 00:35:36,950
telling me about how her husband doesn't
understand her.
564
00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:40,730
That was a month ago, boys. I've been
having her ever since. Come on. Look, I
565
00:35:40,730 --> 00:35:42,970
know it's hard to believe, but it's...
It's impossible to believe.
566
00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:44,649
Wait a minute.
567
00:35:44,650 --> 00:35:45,650
Wait a minute.
568
00:35:46,290 --> 00:35:48,770
This time, you've got to put your money
where your mouth is.
569
00:35:56,839 --> 00:35:57,839
Yeah, who are you?
570
00:35:58,260 --> 00:36:01,480
Name's Fred Cobb. I'm a private
investigator working on the Paul Ed Gill
571
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,540
Are you Mr. Groom? Yeah, that's me, but
I don't know what I can tell you because
572
00:36:06,540 --> 00:36:07,960
I only went to school there for about a
year.
573
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,880
Say, how'd you happen to come talk to
me?
574
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,680
Mrs. Gill gave me a list of students she
thought might have something good to
575
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:18,618
say about her.
576
00:36:18,620 --> 00:36:21,420
Mrs. Gill was all right to me. She tried
to get me to stay in school.
577
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,720
I wouldn't want to testify or anything.
578
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,400
Come on.
579
00:36:34,900 --> 00:36:41,380
These other guys, Garrett, Paul, and
Stewie, were part of the most popular
580
00:36:41,380 --> 00:36:42,380
in the school.
581
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,100
Kip had been part of that crew too, but
there was some kind of falling out.
582
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,600
And it was around this time that we all
started hearing rumors about him and
583
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:52,359
Mrs. Gill.
584
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,520
Then Kip kills himself.
585
00:36:55,180 --> 00:36:58,560
And all I know is that the night after
Kip died, Garrett, Paul, and Stewie and
586
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,960
bunch of other kids went out to the ice
house. The ice house.
587
00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:02,218
What's that?
588
00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:06,000
It's a factory out near Miramar, and
kids from school used to go out there
589
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,000
party.
590
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,740
I heard that's where they decided to
make this up.
591
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,960
I talked to a lot of kids this summer.
592
00:37:13,180 --> 00:37:14,660
Why haven't I heard about this before?
593
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,540
Well, I know I wasn't in any right to
come forward.
594
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,680
Firstly, I don't care what people think,
but my parents had just joined a
595
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,080
country club. Wait a minute.
596
00:37:23,710 --> 00:37:27,150
Are you saying you felt that you were
discouraged from coming forward?
597
00:37:28,170 --> 00:37:30,650
You guys really are in the dark about
this, aren't you?
598
00:37:32,030 --> 00:37:34,610
Kip's family and the families of the
other three, they've had their own
599
00:37:34,610 --> 00:37:39,650
investigation going on since last year.
And in Briarcliff, the word's out.
600
00:37:40,190 --> 00:37:41,970
You're either with them or against them.
601
00:37:42,610 --> 00:37:45,110
I honestly don't see any grounds for
delay, Mr. Turner.
602
00:37:45,420 --> 00:37:48,580
Your Honor, I now have reason to believe
that much of this new evidence that Mr.
603
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,600
Cleaver claimed as his reason for filing
charges comes from a group of citizens
604
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,840
who have a vested interest in the
outcome of this case. As I understand
605
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,580
those people are doing are trying to
protect themselves from any possible
606
00:37:57,580 --> 00:37:58,580
action from Mrs. Gill.
607
00:37:58,820 --> 00:38:00,080
There's nothing illegal about that.
608
00:38:00,420 --> 00:38:04,040
And I hardly think the existence of this
one boy proves widespread coercion, Mr.
609
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,740
Turner. Your Honor, this one boy's
statement alone raises questions about
610
00:38:07,740 --> 00:38:10,000
credibility of the rest of the boys who
are going to be testifying here.
611
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,120
What possible reason could I have for
filing charges if I had any questions
612
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,120
about their credibility?
613
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,440
Well, the guy that beat Bouchemoyer off
your back, didn't it, Earl?
614
00:38:16,740 --> 00:38:19,140
The way I figure it, this trial's a win
-win proposition for you.
615
00:38:19,460 --> 00:38:20,840
My job is simple.
616
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,320
I look at the evidence, and I look at
the statute.
617
00:38:23,620 --> 00:38:27,460
If I get a match, I prosecute. Your
request for continuance is denied.
618
00:38:28,380 --> 00:38:31,460
The only thing that's relevant here is
where the defendant was on the nights of
619
00:38:31,460 --> 00:38:34,620
November 17th and 24th, and that's what
we're going to find out right now.
620
00:38:39,069 --> 00:38:42,850
Mr. Preston, what was your reaction when
Kip Bauschmeyer first told you of his
621
00:38:42,850 --> 00:38:43,910
relationship with Mrs. Gill?
622
00:38:44,570 --> 00:38:46,210
It just didn't seem possible.
623
00:38:46,990 --> 00:38:50,670
I mean, I'd seen the way they were in
class, and I knew she liked him, but I
624
00:38:50,670 --> 00:38:52,290
still thought, she's a teacher, no way.
625
00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:55,070
How did Kip respond to your disbelief,
Mr. Preston?
626
00:38:55,790 --> 00:38:59,070
He said, I guess I'm just going to have
to prove it to you then.
627
00:39:00,850 --> 00:39:03,530
Let's talk about the weekend of November
17th.
628
00:39:03,770 --> 00:39:05,650
You and Garrett had been over there
during the day?
629
00:39:06,070 --> 00:39:07,070
Yes, sir.
630
00:39:07,250 --> 00:39:11,030
Kip told us that she was coming over
that night and asked if we would go help
631
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:12,450
set up his room so that we could see.
632
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:14,070
And what was some of these preparations?
633
00:39:15,250 --> 00:39:18,670
His window was kind of high up, so we
had to stack some paving stones to stand
634
00:39:18,670 --> 00:39:19,670
on.
635
00:39:21,050 --> 00:39:24,130
And he had these curtains that we had to
rig so that we could see better.
636
00:39:26,690 --> 00:39:29,070
And what happened after you finished
setting up his room, Paul?
637
00:39:29,390 --> 00:39:30,390
We went home.
638
00:39:30,830 --> 00:39:33,670
And then later I picked Garrett up and
we drove back over to Kip.
639
00:39:37,420 --> 00:39:40,620
I knew what kind of car Mrs. Gill drove
because I'd seen it a bunch of times at
640
00:39:40,620 --> 00:39:41,620
school.
641
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,640
It was parked right where Kip had said
it would be.
642
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,040
Now, at this point, we're thinking,
maybe she's just over there talking to
643
00:39:48,060 --> 00:39:51,080
right? But on the way up to the house, I
started to get cold feet.
644
00:39:55,980 --> 00:39:58,480
I said I didn't want to go, so Garrett
went first.
645
00:40:09,710 --> 00:40:10,890
I was scared we'd be caught.
646
00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:15,770
And then after a minute, he comes back
and he says, somebody's about to do
647
00:40:15,770 --> 00:40:16,770
something to somebody.
648
00:40:17,210 --> 00:40:19,910
And that's when I went up to the window.
649
00:40:32,270 --> 00:40:35,990
When you first looked through the
window, what did you observe, Paul?
650
00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:37,550
Exactly.
651
00:40:41,550 --> 00:40:45,470
I saw my best friend, Kip Boushmore, and
my teacher, Mrs. Gill, having sex.
652
00:40:47,630 --> 00:40:48,630
Order!
653
00:40:48,910 --> 00:40:49,910
Order!
654
00:40:50,410 --> 00:40:50,870
Your
655
00:40:50,870 --> 00:41:00,430
witness,
656
00:41:00,610 --> 00:41:01,610
Mr. Turner.
657
00:41:02,030 --> 00:41:03,030
Mr. Preston.
658
00:41:04,990 --> 00:41:09,790
Yesterday, you described preparations
you made in order to better see Kip and
659
00:41:09,790 --> 00:41:10,870
the defendant having sex.
660
00:41:11,450 --> 00:41:14,490
For example, you stacked up some
stepping stones. Do you recall why you
661
00:41:14,490 --> 00:41:15,490
that?
662
00:41:15,610 --> 00:41:17,230
It made it easier to see.
663
00:41:19,090 --> 00:41:20,090
Your Honor, may I?
664
00:41:21,630 --> 00:41:22,690
Would you step over here, please?
665
00:41:28,110 --> 00:41:29,110
Right here.
666
00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:32,490
Now, I want you to imagine that the jury
box is Kip's bed.
667
00:41:33,110 --> 00:41:37,490
Earlier, some photos were introduced
indicating that the bedroom window is
668
00:41:37,490 --> 00:41:38,530
feet from the base of the house.
669
00:41:38,770 --> 00:41:39,770
How tall are you, Paul?
670
00:41:39,930 --> 00:41:41,090
I'm 5 '10".
671
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,600
Now,
672
00:41:42,980 --> 00:41:45,060
I want you to look at the jury while I
measure out five feet.
673
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:53,360
Garrett's shorter, I think.
674
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,960
Actually, he's an inch taller, but okay.
675
00:41:56,220 --> 00:41:57,320
I'll measure out two more inches.
676
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:06,760
I'd like the record to reflect that I
measured out five feet, two inches, and
677
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,360
yet Mr. Preston can still see the jury
easily over the top.
678
00:42:09,580 --> 00:42:10,580
Can you?
679
00:42:10,970 --> 00:42:11,970
Yes, sir.
680
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:13,069
Thank you.
681
00:42:13,070 --> 00:42:14,070
You can sit back down.
682
00:42:19,730 --> 00:42:23,390
Now, when you were before the grand
jury, you testified that after Kip and
683
00:42:23,470 --> 00:42:26,990
Gill had made love, he turned the lights
off to signal that they were finished.
684
00:42:27,010 --> 00:42:28,170
Do you recall that being part of the
plan?
685
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:33,810
Yes, that's right. He said, when I turn
the lights off, you guys have to leave.
686
00:42:35,660 --> 00:42:38,880
So what you're saying is they made love
with the lights on, and then when they
687
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,080
were ready to go, he turned the lights
off, and they got dressed in the dark.
688
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,320
Yeah.
689
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:56,200
Maybe a lot of the stuff we did wasn't
necessary, but it's not like any of us
690
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,080
had any experience with this kind of
thing. That would be one explanation.
691
00:42:59,980 --> 00:43:02,260
Another might be that you guys made up
the story.
692
00:43:02,700 --> 00:43:06,040
and then never got around to going over
to Kip's house to see if it checked out.
693
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,080
That's not true.
694
00:43:07,900 --> 00:43:11,280
And we never discussed this among
ourselves until after we gave our
695
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,098
to the school.
696
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:15,420
Have you ever heard of a place called
the Ice House, Mr. Preston?
697
00:43:18,940 --> 00:43:19,940
Yeah,
698
00:43:20,620 --> 00:43:21,620
I've heard of it.
699
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,640
It's a place Kip's from school used to
hang out sometimes.
700
00:43:25,980 --> 00:43:30,220
And weren't you hanging out there the
weekend after Kip died, along with
701
00:43:30,220 --> 00:43:31,960
Evans, Stuart Cardell, and several
others?
702
00:43:33,970 --> 00:43:37,350
Yeah. Yes, sir. I suppose we were, yeah.
703
00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:41,650
Kip had just committed suicide, and yet
the subject of what you had all
704
00:43:41,650 --> 00:43:44,070
witnessed between Kip and Paulette Gill
never came up.
705
00:43:44,510 --> 00:43:46,290
Is that your testimony, Mr. Preston?
706
00:43:50,610 --> 00:43:54,630
Mr. Cardell, could you please tell us
what happened on the weekend of November
707
00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:55,730
24th?
708
00:43:57,090 --> 00:44:00,870
The weekend of November 24th, Paul and I
were staying over at Kip's house.
709
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,700
His parents had already gone to bed.
710
00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:05,060
We were just getting ready to watch
video when the phone rings.
711
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,840
And what time was that?
712
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,400
About 11 .30.
713
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,000
So Kip's on the phone for a couple
minutes.
714
00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:21,960
When he gets off, he's got this great
big grin on his face.
715
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,320
And he says to Paul, it's on again for
tonight.
716
00:44:25,100 --> 00:44:28,880
At that point, they told me that Mrs.
Gill and Kip had sex the weekend before.
717
00:44:29,420 --> 00:44:32,660
And what did you think of all this, Mr.
Cardell? I believed it.
718
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,260
I had her as a teacher.
719
00:44:34,700 --> 00:44:36,680
You could say I'd seen her in action.
720
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:40,640
Order.
721
00:44:41,300 --> 00:44:43,460
Let's leave the humor to the lawyers,
Mr. Cardell.
722
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,280
Please proceed.
723
00:44:45,380 --> 00:44:47,020
So anyway, Paul and I go outside to
wait.
724
00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:48,960
About ten minutes later, she shows up.
725
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:55,560
I watch for 45 minutes, maybe, during
which I watch Mrs. Gill and Kip have
726
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:56,980
intercourse and all sex.
727
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:07,600
Your witness.
728
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,040
Mr. Cardell, would you please tell us
the sequence of sexual acts you
729
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:15,680
You mean like what order?
730
00:47:16,020 --> 00:47:17,480
That's what I mean, Mr. Cardell.
731
00:47:20,020 --> 00:47:26,860
Okay, well, best I can remember, it was
oral sex, and
732
00:47:26,860 --> 00:47:33,740
then, you know, regular sex, and then it
was oral sex again. So you observed
733
00:47:33,740 --> 00:47:35,720
three separate sex acts in 45 minutes?
734
00:47:42,430 --> 00:47:45,710
Yes. Now, how was Mrs. Gill as a
teacher?
735
00:47:46,590 --> 00:47:47,590
She was okay.
736
00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:51,030
She actually went out of her way to give
you a lot of extra help, didn't she?
737
00:47:52,110 --> 00:47:54,950
Yeah. Did she ever make any sexual
overtures to you?
738
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:56,430
No.
739
00:47:56,850 --> 00:48:00,110
So when you say that her actions
contributed to your conclusion that Kip
740
00:48:00,110 --> 00:48:01,750
Paul were telling the truth, what are
you talking about?
741
00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:05,370
It was just a feeling I got.
742
00:48:06,810 --> 00:48:10,010
After Mrs. Gill left, Did you guys talk
about what had just happened?
743
00:48:14,270 --> 00:48:17,650
You know, I don't think we ever really
talked about it until after we gave our
744
00:48:17,650 --> 00:48:18,650
statement to the school.
745
00:48:18,930 --> 00:48:20,130
You mean even at Kip's funeral?
746
00:48:20,450 --> 00:48:22,830
And when you were all together the night
he died, you didn't talk about it?
747
00:48:24,210 --> 00:48:25,210
I don't believe so.
748
00:48:25,650 --> 00:48:27,630
What about when you were all out at the
ice house, Mr. Cardell?
749
00:48:28,290 --> 00:48:31,250
No. But you were out at the ice house
together, weren't you? He is killing us
750
00:48:31,250 --> 00:48:32,370
with this ice house business.
751
00:48:34,930 --> 00:48:36,230
Yeah, yeah, we were there.
752
00:48:38,049 --> 00:48:39,049
No further questions.
753
00:48:39,930 --> 00:48:42,030
Let's hold Garrett back for now. I want
to interview him again.
754
00:48:42,310 --> 00:48:45,490
I want you to call Don Newbeck, tell him
it's time to fish or cut bait. Got it.
755
00:48:45,490 --> 00:48:46,510
Any redirect, Mr. Cleaver?
756
00:48:46,850 --> 00:48:47,850
Sorry, Your Honor.
757
00:48:48,410 --> 00:48:51,510
In view of the hour, Your Honor, the
state requests a recess until tomorrow.
758
00:48:57,630 --> 00:49:02,150
You were great today.
759
00:49:03,290 --> 00:49:06,230
That's not just my opinion. The whole
press corps is talking about how you're
760
00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:07,230
kicking their butts.
761
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,880
Well, it's early yet, but thanks, Bobby.
762
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:12,780
So why the long face?
763
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,440
I guess I'm still bugged by the way
Cleaver stood by while the town held its
764
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,920
inquisition. Oh, don't be such a boy
scout.
765
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,120
The people in Briarcliff want justice,
and if they're in a position to pull
766
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,180
strings, I'd pay more power to them.
That's just how the system operates.
767
00:49:28,180 --> 00:49:31,040
well, may I remind you, you and I are
part of the system. Yeah, and I've seen
768
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,540
you work that system plenty to put some
really awful people back on the street.
769
00:49:34,820 --> 00:49:36,800
Who always says winning is all that
matters?
770
00:49:40,300 --> 00:49:44,400
The first day I went to pick them up for
court, the boy across the street came
771
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,580
over to ask Paulette's help for a
project at school.
772
00:49:47,660 --> 00:49:51,200
I mean, here she was about to enter the
arena, yet she was willing to take the
773
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,440
time to help some kid with his homework.
774
00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:54,720
That's when I knew.
775
00:49:55,180 --> 00:49:58,160
This woman cares too much about teaching
to get involved in anything like this.
776
00:49:59,740 --> 00:50:01,920
I think you're being a little naive
about her.
777
00:50:02,580 --> 00:50:06,240
I mean, even nice people can rationalize
almost anything in the name of passion.
778
00:50:07,180 --> 00:50:08,180
Look at us.
779
00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:32,990
Roger? Roger?
780
00:50:47,110 --> 00:50:50,090
You know, it occurred to me I haven't
cooked for you in ages, so I decided to
781
00:50:50,090 --> 00:50:52,830
whip up a special batch of my stir fry.
Come here.
782
00:50:53,950 --> 00:50:55,430
This is really sweet of you.
783
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:57,360
You like it?
784
00:50:58,140 --> 00:50:59,260
Thank you.
785
00:51:01,420 --> 00:51:06,680
Would you like some champagne, my dear,
huh?
786
00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:09,100
Champagne, too?
787
00:51:09,460 --> 00:51:11,100
Either that or diet cranberry juice.
788
00:51:11,300 --> 00:51:12,500
Decide to live dangerously.
789
00:51:18,300 --> 00:51:23,620
I really appreciate the thought.
790
00:51:24,790 --> 00:51:26,830
But I don't think I could get down a
bite of food.
791
00:51:27,830 --> 00:51:30,790
Maybe what you need is to work up a
little appetite.
792
00:51:32,810 --> 00:51:33,810
Huh?
793
00:51:33,970 --> 00:51:34,970
Come here.
794
00:51:37,590 --> 00:51:38,590
You look beautiful.
795
00:51:44,210 --> 00:51:45,310
Step on your feet, I want.
796
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,040
I don't feel very attractive right now.
797
00:51:56,540 --> 00:51:57,880
Oh, you are, believe me.
798
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:13,520
Okay.
799
00:52:17,220 --> 00:52:19,080
I'm really not up for this right now.
800
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:21,440
Roger, please.
801
00:52:22,170 --> 00:52:24,890
I'm sorry, I just don't feel very sexual
right now.
802
00:52:27,290 --> 00:52:28,630
Please be patient with me.
803
00:52:36,050 --> 00:52:39,990
As the boy's vice principal, it was my
decision to transfer Kip Boschmeyer into
804
00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:40,928
her class.
805
00:52:40,930 --> 00:52:44,410
Miss Gill ran a somewhat informal
classroom, but I thought the boy might
806
00:52:44,410 --> 00:52:45,410
better in that environment.
807
00:52:45,490 --> 00:52:46,448
Did he?
808
00:52:46,450 --> 00:52:47,450
At first, he did.
809
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,520
But then I kept hearing that she was
keeping him after class a couple of
810
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:51,499
every week.
811
00:52:51,500 --> 00:52:54,220
Objection. Your Honor, this is blatantly
misleading.
812
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,940
There is no offer of proof that anything
but studying went on at these after
813
00:52:57,940 --> 00:52:58,940
-school sessions.
814
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:00,880
Let me see you two lawyers up here right
now.
815
00:53:07,620 --> 00:53:12,400
What is your theory of invisibility on
this? Given her informal manner and her
816
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,260
willingness to meet with him one -on
-one, Kip no doubt saw these after
817
00:53:15,260 --> 00:53:16,360
sessions as an open invitation.
818
00:53:16,970 --> 00:53:17,970
To do what?
819
00:53:18,210 --> 00:53:19,210
Study.
820
00:53:19,370 --> 00:53:20,510
I'm going to sustain the objection.
821
00:53:20,950 --> 00:53:23,490
As long as we're here, Your Honor, it's
my understanding that the testimony of
822
00:53:23,490 --> 00:53:26,370
the next three witnesses goes
exclusively to the issue of whether or
823
00:53:26,450 --> 00:53:28,170
Gill's attire in school was too
provocative.
824
00:53:29,150 --> 00:53:32,030
Again, Judge, it's our contention that
her relationship with Kip was just part
825
00:53:32,030 --> 00:53:33,610
of a whole range of unacceptable
conduct.
826
00:53:33,830 --> 00:53:37,070
Perhaps. But I'm not going to allow her
to be convicted of sexual assault based
827
00:53:37,070 --> 00:53:38,070
on what she wore to work.
828
00:53:38,730 --> 00:53:41,130
Now, do you have any other questions for
this witness? No.
829
00:53:41,910 --> 00:53:42,910
Step back.
830
00:53:47,759 --> 00:53:49,300
Mr. Garcia, you're excused.
831
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:51,480
Thank you.
832
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,880
Do you have any other witnesses you can
call at this time?
833
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:57,680
We do, Your Honor.
834
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,320
She's not on a lift, having only
recently come forward, but she is in the
835
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:02,320
building and ready to testify.
836
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:03,940
Call your witness, Mr. Cleaver.
837
00:54:04,380 --> 00:54:06,140
The state calls Patricia Newbeck.
838
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:26,360
Please proceed.
839
00:54:28,300 --> 00:54:32,220
Ms. Newbeck, your relationship with the
defendant was more than the usual
840
00:54:32,220 --> 00:54:33,800
teacher -student relationship, wasn't
it?
841
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,140
We were also close friends, yeah.
842
00:54:36,780 --> 00:54:38,140
How did your friendship come about?
843
00:54:39,100 --> 00:54:41,240
At first, it was based on my schoolwork.
844
00:54:41,500 --> 00:54:46,200
And then as we discovered we had mutual
interests, we started hanging out
845
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:47,200
together outside of school.
846
00:54:47,460 --> 00:54:51,060
You mean you would socialize in each
other's homes, maybe go out to eat?
847
00:54:51,460 --> 00:54:56,200
Yes. I'd like to call your attention to
the night of November 17th, 1992.
848
00:54:57,140 --> 00:54:59,600
Do you recall where you were between 9
and 11 that night?
849
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:02,660
Paulette and I had dinner at Joy Garden.
850
00:55:03,620 --> 00:55:05,680
It's a Chinese restaurant near school.
851
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,080
Do you recall the conversation?
852
00:55:10,340 --> 00:55:11,340
Yes, I do.
853
00:55:11,580 --> 00:55:16,140
You asked my opinion, Patsy, and I'm
telling you, I don't think you should be
854
00:55:16,140 --> 00:55:17,340
giving Bobby that kind of commitment.
855
00:55:17,620 --> 00:55:18,720
We really love each other.
856
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,560
Why is that so hard for everybody to
understand?
857
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,040
I understand.
858
00:55:23,060 --> 00:55:25,720
I was in college. I was dating Roger.
859
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,120
I was in love.
860
00:55:27,620 --> 00:55:34,300
And now here it is a few years later,
and people don't always evolve in the
861
00:55:34,300 --> 00:55:35,300
direction.
862
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:36,800
God, Paulette.
863
00:55:37,300 --> 00:55:39,220
You and Roger aren't having problems,
are you?
864
00:55:41,180 --> 00:55:46,840
I love Roger, but I don't think either
of us really... She went on to say
865
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:51,340
that... Since Roger had started grad
school, he had gotten totally caught up
866
00:55:51,340 --> 00:55:52,198
his work.
867
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,300
She said he was distracted and losing
interest in her.
868
00:55:57,580 --> 00:56:01,260
And had another complication in the Gill
marriage developed at this time?
869
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:05,080
Yes.
870
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,640
Paulette told me she might be falling in
love with Kip Bauschmeier.
871
00:56:09,820 --> 00:56:11,740
Did she say what those feelings were
based on?
872
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,500
Kip was crazy about her.
873
00:56:15,470 --> 00:56:18,810
She was always interested in everything
she had to say. Was it your impression
874
00:56:18,810 --> 00:56:20,010
that those feelings had been acted upon?
875
00:56:21,850 --> 00:56:23,370
That's how the subject came up.
876
00:56:24,570 --> 00:56:29,030
Paulette had a date with Kip that night,
and she wanted me to cover for her.
877
00:56:30,430 --> 00:56:33,790
If my teacher looked like that, I
probably would have killed myself, too.
878
00:56:34,310 --> 00:56:36,470
You know what she said when they caught
her? No, what's that?
879
00:56:36,810 --> 00:56:38,030
She's cramming for an exam.
880
00:56:40,050 --> 00:56:42,070
Are you crazy?
881
00:56:47,180 --> 00:56:50,520
Just two more questions. Would you say
you were also close friends with Garrett
882
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,200
Evans, Stuart Cardell, or Paul Preston?
883
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,460
No, I'm not friends with their group at
all.
884
00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:56,720
Have you ever been to the Ice House?
885
00:56:57,260 --> 00:56:58,460
I don't even know where that is.
886
00:56:59,000 --> 00:56:59,738
Thank you.
887
00:56:59,740 --> 00:57:00,740
No further questions.
888
00:57:01,660 --> 00:57:04,540
Miss Newbeck, you knew Kip Bouchemoyer
pretty well, didn't you?
889
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:06,980
Our families were close, yeah.
890
00:57:07,660 --> 00:57:09,640
Initially, you were one of Mrs. Gill's
strongest supporters.
891
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,320
You told the school principal, your
parents, anyone who would listen, that
892
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,520
thought Paulette Gill was not guilty of
these charges.
893
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:17,538
That's true.
894
00:57:17,540 --> 00:57:19,440
What prompted you to change your story?
895
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:26,300
Paulette and I were friends, but I felt
that what she had done was wrong, so I
896
00:57:26,300 --> 00:57:27,580
decided I couldn't support her anymore.
897
00:57:27,900 --> 00:57:28,900
When was that?
898
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:30,820
I don't remember exactly.
899
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,940
Miss Newbeck, this is a statement you
made to the district attorney's office
900
00:57:35,940 --> 00:57:36,940
April of this year.
901
00:57:37,060 --> 00:57:38,060
Do you recognize it?
902
00:57:45,260 --> 00:57:48,200
And you told the district attorney's
office you had no relevant information,
903
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:49,480
didn't you?
904
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:52,240
Yes.
905
00:57:52,420 --> 00:57:55,680
And when my investigator, Mr. Cobb,
spoke to you last July and asked you
906
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,320
having dinner with Mrs. Gill, what did
you say?
907
00:57:59,260 --> 00:58:01,180
I told him I couldn't remember.
908
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,700
Ms. Newbeck, let me direct your
attention again to your April statement.
909
00:58:07,340 --> 00:58:10,420
Where did you tell the DA was your
reason for accepting the interview?
910
00:58:13,230 --> 00:58:14,830
Shall I read it to you, Miss Newbeck?
911
00:58:16,670 --> 00:58:21,290
I said the only reason I was there was
because my father had been bugging me.
912
00:58:21,410 --> 00:58:25,170
And the reason he was bugging you was
that he didn't believe you when you told
913
00:58:25,170 --> 00:58:27,410
him that you thought Paulette Gill was
innocent of these charges.
914
00:58:27,790 --> 00:58:31,730
And as it turned out, your father's
instinct that you're a liar proved to be
915
00:58:31,730 --> 00:58:32,730
correct, didn't it?
916
00:58:33,190 --> 00:58:35,550
What's important is that I'm telling the
truth now.
917
00:58:44,330 --> 00:58:45,330
No further questions.
918
00:59:01,750 --> 00:59:04,350
The guy you pushed was a lawyer.
919
00:59:05,630 --> 00:59:07,630
Owen got him to not press charges.
920
00:59:08,070 --> 00:59:09,710
Oh, that's a load off my mind.
921
00:59:10,540 --> 00:59:14,120
Owen also thinks it might be a good idea
if you stayed away from the courthouse
922
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:14,919
for a while.
923
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:15,920
Owen thinks, huh?
924
00:59:16,380 --> 00:59:17,380
What do you think?
925
00:59:19,980 --> 00:59:23,500
That depends on whether you think you
can control your temper, Roger.
926
00:59:23,740 --> 00:59:25,440
There was no loss of control, Paulette.
927
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,960
I saw a chance to defend your honor for
the first time since this whole business
928
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:30,960
began.
929
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:32,360
And I took it.
930
00:59:41,740 --> 00:59:46,340
If you'd like to listen, I'd like to try
to explain about Patsy.
931
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,000
Discuss our problems with her or not.
932
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,780
She took things I said at different
times out of context.
933
00:59:53,140 --> 00:59:56,020
What context could there possibly be for
talking to this girl about our
934
00:59:56,020 --> 00:59:58,860
marriage? You know, I never liked the
way you were with those kids.
935
00:59:59,180 --> 01:00:00,680
How accessible you made yourself.
936
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,680
But I didn't say anything because I
figured that was your call.
937
01:00:04,220 --> 01:00:07,080
And because I never dreamed that what
you were sharing were intimate details
938
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,600
our family life, Paulette. When kids
come to you...
939
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:15,640
Asking advice and sharing their secrets.
You find yourself responding in kind.
940
01:00:16,260 --> 01:00:17,520
Is that such a crime?
941
01:00:18,100 --> 01:00:20,020
That depends on how far it went, I
guess, huh?
942
01:00:23,820 --> 01:00:26,140
Are you asking if it's all true?
943
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,440
No, but when they say you didn't keep
your distance, they're not wrong, are
944
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:31,440
they?
945
01:00:31,780 --> 01:00:35,020
You did cross over the line and you
brought this down on us as surely as if
946
01:00:35,020 --> 01:00:36,020
had slept with him.
947
01:00:37,620 --> 01:00:38,620
Maybe.
948
01:00:39,500 --> 01:00:42,160
It's not such a bad idea if you did stay
away from court.
949
01:00:42,780 --> 01:00:44,880
Well, I wish I didn't have to go to
court, believe me.
950
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,880
Our friends in the press, they'd have a
field day.
951
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,200
I don't care much about appearances
right now.
952
01:00:51,540 --> 01:00:52,540
Well, I do.
953
01:00:53,380 --> 01:00:55,420
I'm not going to give those bastards any
satisfaction.
954
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,160
Let me spell it out for you.
955
01:01:00,340 --> 01:01:02,960
I don't want you there anymore.
956
01:01:03,660 --> 01:01:06,440
If that's the only reason you have for
coming.
957
01:01:39,020 --> 01:01:41,800
How long did you watch the defendant and
Kip having sexual intercourse, Mr.
958
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:46,360
Evans? About a half hour, of which I was
at the window maybe ten minutes
959
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:47,360
altogether.
960
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,780
Now, why is it that you decided not to
tell anybody about what you'd seen prior
961
01:02:39,780 --> 01:02:40,780
to Kip's death?
962
01:02:41,420 --> 01:02:43,000
Oh, Kip asked us not to.
963
01:02:43,740 --> 01:02:45,660
He was worried about getting Mrs. Gill
in trouble.
964
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:48,960
And I think also we felt a little
ashamed.
965
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,800
Now, this place, the Ice House, you and
your friends did go out there?
966
01:02:55,620 --> 01:02:56,900
Yes, sir, the night after he died.
967
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,140
Did you and Stuart Cordell...
968
01:03:01,500 --> 01:03:05,700
And Paul Preston conspired to make up
this story at the ice house, Mr. Evans.
969
01:03:11,820 --> 01:03:13,900
That would have been impossible, sir.
970
01:03:15,420 --> 01:03:17,060
We went to the ice house on Friday.
971
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,900
By then, I'd already told my mother and
some other police officers what I knew.
972
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:25,400
No further questions.
973
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,900
All Garrett's testimony really proves is
that he was the first one to tell the
974
01:03:29,900 --> 01:03:30,900
story.
975
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,500
We can argue that he was the ringleader,
but it hurt us.
976
01:03:34,020 --> 01:03:36,880
And as for Patsy Newberry... Can't we
call Leland Gruen?
977
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,520
Unfortunately, his story about the ice
house isn't a first -hand account, and
978
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:41,520
wouldn't be admissible.
979
01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:44,460
Cobb can't find anyone who will admit
that they were actually there.
980
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,860
Paulette, this whole thing is going to
come down to your testimony.
981
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:50,560
So I want you to really focus on that.
982
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,260
When you get up there tomorrow, I want
you to tell your story simply and
983
01:03:54,260 --> 01:03:55,260
straightforwardly.
984
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,760
Do that, and I think the jury will
believe you.
985
01:03:58,980 --> 01:03:59,980
Will they?
986
01:04:00,759 --> 01:04:01,759
You didn't.
987
01:04:02,780 --> 01:04:03,780
Yeah.
988
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,220
Maybe I've just defended too many guilty
people.
989
01:04:06,420 --> 01:04:10,400
But I have to believe that when that
jury really looks at you, they'll see
990
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:11,880
I saw when I finally opened my eyes.
991
01:04:12,660 --> 01:04:14,480
An innocent woman, falsely accused.
992
01:04:40,590 --> 01:04:44,010
Highs expected in the daytime of 72.
993
01:04:44,350 --> 01:04:45,810
A little bit warmer, of course.
994
01:04:46,210 --> 01:04:52,910
And now in the next five days, we expect
them to remain in the mid
995
01:04:52,910 --> 01:04:57,690
-70s. We'll be right back.
996
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,640
haven't met. I'm Roberta Rosen with the
San Diego Ledger. In the media, people
997
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,680
seem pretty chummy with Mrs. Boschmore.
Ever ask her what she's doing here?
998
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,440
Witnesses aren't allowed in the
courtroom, but she comes to the
999
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,500
day. Ever ask yourself what it means? I
think it helps her cope with the loss of
1000
01:05:28,500 --> 01:05:30,720
her son. I came out here to give you
equal time.
1001
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,680
Yeah, well, our lawyer advised us not to
speak with the press.
1002
01:05:34,940 --> 01:05:37,160
Then you can't complain about the kind
of press you're getting, can you?
1003
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:38,560
And that's it, huh?
1004
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,860
You think saying that absolves you of
responsibility?
1005
01:05:41,460 --> 01:05:44,440
You think there's some questions we
ought to be asking? How about asking
1006
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:45,440
I'm doing here?
1007
01:05:45,530 --> 01:05:48,530
Why would I possibly stick by Paulette
if there was any truth to these charges?
1008
01:05:48,730 --> 01:05:50,770
Well, you haven't been sticking by her
lately, have you?
1009
01:05:51,330 --> 01:05:53,010
Your attorney told us you came down with
the flu.
1010
01:05:53,810 --> 01:05:55,010
You seem pretty healthy to me.
1011
01:05:58,390 --> 01:06:00,690
You know, maybe I haven't handled myself
as well as I could.
1012
01:06:02,350 --> 01:06:03,610
But I'm not a public figure.
1013
01:06:04,230 --> 01:06:05,650
I'm just a guy that sells computers.
1014
01:06:06,690 --> 01:06:11,090
And my wife is a woman whose only plan
in life was to get married and raise a
1015
01:06:11,090 --> 01:06:12,290
family and teach school.
1016
01:06:13,980 --> 01:06:17,040
Before you make any judgments about us,
why don't you ask yourself what your
1017
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:18,760
life would look like if it was put under
a microscope?
1018
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:21,740
I love my wife, Miss Rose.
1019
01:06:23,860 --> 01:06:24,860
Excuse me.
1020
01:06:33,780 --> 01:06:34,780
Mr.
1021
01:06:35,020 --> 01:06:36,260
Turner, are you ready to proceed?
1022
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:41,720
The defense calls Paulette Gill.
1023
01:06:56,609 --> 01:06:57,609
Raise your right hand.
1024
01:06:59,970 --> 01:07:03,330
Do you swear the testimony you're about
to give is the truth, the whole truth,
1025
01:07:03,430 --> 01:07:04,930
and nothing but the truth, so help you
God?
1026
01:07:05,250 --> 01:07:06,250
I do.
1027
01:07:16,870 --> 01:07:20,110
Mrs. Gill, why did you decide to become
a teacher?
1028
01:07:21,530 --> 01:07:23,310
I'd always admired my own teachers.
1029
01:07:24,390 --> 01:07:25,870
and I liked working with kids.
1030
01:07:27,150 --> 01:07:30,630
And how long had you been at Briarcliff
High School when you met Kip Bouchmore?
1031
01:07:31,370 --> 01:07:32,370
About two years.
1032
01:07:32,730 --> 01:07:36,490
We heard testimony that the decision to
transfer Kip to your class was based on
1033
01:07:36,490 --> 01:07:39,110
the idea that you and he would have a
rapport. Is that your recollection?
1034
01:07:39,370 --> 01:07:43,370
Not really. I think it had more to do
with the fact that I was the most junior
1035
01:07:43,370 --> 01:07:48,290
member of the department, and Kip had a
reputation of being a troublemaker.
1036
01:07:48,750 --> 01:07:50,350
Was that reputation well -deserved?
1037
01:07:52,300 --> 01:07:53,840
Make thick my blood?
1038
01:07:54,740 --> 01:07:57,620
Stop up the access and passage to
remorse.
1039
01:07:58,160 --> 01:07:59,340
I think he's misunderstood.
1040
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:05,120
Teachers sometimes forget that while
you're testing the kids, they're also
1041
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:06,078
testing you.
1042
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,920
Come to my woman's breast and take my
milk for gone. I'm not saying we didn't
1043
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:14,160
have our moments, but overall, I think
we did end up with a pretty good
1044
01:08:15,020 --> 01:08:19,080
We also heard testimony that you spent
time with kids outside of school. How do
1045
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:20,080
you account for that?
1046
01:08:22,279 --> 01:08:28,220
All I can say is that I grew up in a
very small town where our teachers were
1047
01:08:28,220 --> 01:08:29,859
neighbors, people we thought church.
1048
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,319
So it just seemed natural to me.
1049
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:40,660
And it was just a couple of students
like Patsy that I felt particularly
1050
01:08:40,660 --> 01:08:42,680
to. And was Kip another one of those
students?
1051
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:48,620
Not at first, but there came a time when
Kip began to seek me out on a more
1052
01:08:48,620 --> 01:08:49,620
individual basis.
1053
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,200
Do you recall what brought that on?
1054
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:57,020
It was around the time when he was
kicked off the football team. It's not
1055
01:08:57,340 --> 01:09:00,939
They said all I needed to do was get a
passing average, not pass every class.
1056
01:09:01,380 --> 01:09:02,380
Hey, did you hear?
1057
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:03,560
Kip's off the team.
1058
01:09:03,779 --> 01:09:04,779
Yeah, of course I heard.
1059
01:09:05,180 --> 01:09:06,340
I'm co -captain, aren't I?
1060
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:08,840
That's a tough break, man.
1061
01:09:09,100 --> 01:09:11,479
I just hate letting you guys down while
the team's on such a roll.
1062
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,000
Yeah, well, I wouldn't lose too much
sleep over it, Kip. I'm not saying we
1063
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,960
couldn't use you on the team, man. Just
don't act like you're indispensable or
1064
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:20,800
something. Why are you always hassling
me, man?
1065
01:09:21,370 --> 01:09:23,010
Because someone's got to let a little
air out.
1066
01:09:23,930 --> 01:09:26,330
Otherwise, you'd float away under that
big head of yours.
1067
01:09:32,350 --> 01:09:33,350
Guys, let's go.
1068
01:09:33,910 --> 01:09:34,910
Limsteady, give us the ride.
1069
01:09:54,350 --> 01:09:55,830
Miss Jean, class today, Kip.
1070
01:09:56,870 --> 01:09:57,870
Hey, Miss Gill.
1071
01:09:59,710 --> 01:10:01,930
I had to go down to the principal's
office.
1072
01:10:02,270 --> 01:10:03,990
Get this thing with my grades
straightened out.
1073
01:10:05,010 --> 01:10:08,310
I told him what he needed to do was get
some more teachers like Mrs. Gill.
1074
01:10:09,450 --> 01:10:12,170
They were all as pretty as her. The
whole football team would be on the
1075
01:10:12,170 --> 01:10:13,170
roll.
1076
01:10:18,170 --> 01:10:19,270
What are you doing right now?
1077
01:10:24,110 --> 01:10:27,890
And when we were all little, I was the
one who could run the fastest or climb
1078
01:10:27,890 --> 01:10:28,890
the bigger tree.
1079
01:10:29,430 --> 01:10:32,250
Garrett was just a little squirt, but I
always included him.
1080
01:10:33,090 --> 01:10:35,710
Now it's the other way around, and the
guy gives me nothing but grief.
1081
01:10:36,330 --> 01:10:38,990
Well, maybe being co -captain has just
gone to his head.
1082
01:10:39,590 --> 01:10:40,590
No.
1083
01:10:40,830 --> 01:10:42,170
He's just got it in for me.
1084
01:10:43,490 --> 01:10:45,890
Dewey and Paul, they go whichever way
the wind blows.
1085
01:10:47,470 --> 01:10:51,570
In my opinion, being kicked off the
football team isn't the worst thing that
1086
01:10:51,570 --> 01:10:52,570
could happen.
1087
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,220
You have more going for you than you
realize, kid.
1088
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:57,200
Yeah?
1089
01:10:58,080 --> 01:10:59,080
Like what?
1090
01:10:59,780 --> 01:11:01,580
Like the side of you I see right now.
1091
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:03,280
Your serious side.
1092
01:11:04,020 --> 01:11:06,740
I like it, and I'd like to see more of
it.
1093
01:11:10,340 --> 01:11:13,280
You know, I never thought I could talk
to a teacher like this.
1094
01:11:14,340 --> 01:11:16,820
After that, he started calling me at
home.
1095
01:11:17,220 --> 01:11:22,000
I hadn't given him my number, but other
kids had it, and it was listed.
1096
01:11:23,190 --> 01:11:25,730
Now, at one point, you did have occasion
to go to his home.
1097
01:11:26,070 --> 01:11:27,870
Could you please tell the jury what
prompted that?
1098
01:11:30,410 --> 01:11:35,770
About a month after we had coffee, Kip
called me one evening, very upset.
1099
01:11:38,810 --> 01:11:41,370
Hello? Mrs. Gill, I need to see you.
1100
01:11:41,710 --> 01:11:43,050
Kip, what's the matter?
1101
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,020
So when they thought my grades were
going up, they bought me a car, right?
1102
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:03,560
You thought in the driveway.
1103
01:12:05,480 --> 01:12:08,500
Then I didn't do too well on my
midterms. Now they're going to take the
1104
01:12:10,260 --> 01:12:12,280
Do you even have your license here?
That's not the point.
1105
01:12:12,900 --> 01:12:15,060
I mean, it's just something else for
them to hold over my head.
1106
01:12:17,580 --> 01:12:19,140
Meantime, Paul had a big party.
1107
01:12:19,580 --> 01:12:20,580
Never even called me.
1108
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:24,320
Life's a mess.
1109
01:12:25,140 --> 01:12:26,140
I don't get a car?
1110
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:28,420
Might as well go into exile.
1111
01:12:34,090 --> 01:12:35,090
I'm adopted.
1112
01:12:35,950 --> 01:12:37,050
Did I ever tell you that?
1113
01:12:40,010 --> 01:12:43,310
My older brother got all A's in school.
1114
01:12:45,750 --> 01:12:48,090
Dad always asked me why I couldn't be
more like Michael.
1115
01:12:49,490 --> 01:12:52,090
Of course, Mike's their natural son.
1116
01:12:53,730 --> 01:12:54,990
See, that makes me what?
1117
01:12:56,150 --> 01:12:57,210
The unnatural son?
1118
01:12:59,830 --> 01:13:01,970
I'm sure your father doesn't feel that
way.
1119
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:04,280
What about your mom?
1120
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,060
I just don't get it.
1121
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:08,360
Not like you do.
1122
01:13:09,500 --> 01:13:11,660
You're the only person I can really talk
to.
1123
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,840
All I can tell you, kid, is that it gets
better.
1124
01:13:21,940 --> 01:13:26,580
Eventually, you'll be out on your own,
and the cars, and your parents, and what
1125
01:13:26,580 --> 01:13:29,020
your friends think seem pretty
unimportant.
1126
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,080
I don't know if I can wait till then.
1127
01:13:32,820 --> 01:13:33,940
Let's talk about January.
1128
01:13:34,820 --> 01:13:37,640
You began to hear rumors that you and
Kip were lovers. What did you make of
1129
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:38,640
that?
1130
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:43,320
When you're around kids that age, you
hear a lot of wild stories.
1131
01:13:44,140 --> 01:13:48,260
But then somebody told me that Kip
himself was the one who had started the
1132
01:13:48,260 --> 01:13:50,160
rumors. And how did that make you feel?
1133
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:52,720
Used.
1134
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:54,240
Betrayed.
1135
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,480
When I asked him about it, of course he
denied it.
1136
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,840
And why didn't you report him to the
principal, Mrs. Gill?
1137
01:14:03,020 --> 01:14:07,420
At the time, I thought if I spoke to him
myself, it would put a stop to it.
1138
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:09,000
Did it?
1139
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:10,360
No.
1140
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,200
I learned later that he continued to
tell his friends that we were sleeping
1141
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:17,020
together. Until finally there was a
compromise.
1142
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,940
You say a word to anybody. What are you
going to do, Kip? Hit me?
1143
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:22,640
What are you going to do, Kip?
1144
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:24,440
She just called you a liar.
1145
01:14:24,660 --> 01:14:27,040
You're not going to let her get away
with that, are you? She can say whatever
1146
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:28,040
the hell she wants to say.
1147
01:14:28,860 --> 01:14:31,320
It's true about me and Mrs. Gill. You
guys all saw the proof.
1148
01:14:32,810 --> 01:14:35,970
This is your proof? A pair of women's
underwear you could have bought
1149
01:14:36,070 --> 01:14:37,130
Hey! Whoa!
1150
01:14:37,710 --> 01:14:40,010
You have that freshly bought look. Give
them to me!
1151
01:14:41,730 --> 01:14:44,310
Give them to me! Give them to me! Give
them to me!
1152
01:14:45,010 --> 01:14:47,110
Give them to me!
1153
01:14:47,870 --> 01:14:48,870
Give me them!
1154
01:14:50,170 --> 01:14:53,050
We always knew you were full of crap
anyway.
1155
01:15:21,930 --> 01:15:22,930
Think you know?
1156
01:15:24,330 --> 01:15:26,510
Kip, I've had a long day.
1157
01:15:26,890 --> 01:15:29,850
I don't have time to play guessing
games. I'm talking about Patsy.
1158
01:15:31,390 --> 01:15:35,250
She comes up to me today in front of
everybody and accuses me of spreading
1159
01:15:35,250 --> 01:15:36,250
rumors about us.
1160
01:15:36,470 --> 01:15:38,190
I can't believe you put her up to that.
1161
01:15:38,430 --> 01:15:39,830
I didn't put her up to it, Kip.
1162
01:15:40,950 --> 01:15:43,510
You told me you didn't start the rumor.
I accept that.
1163
01:15:44,590 --> 01:15:45,590
Let's just leave it there.
1164
01:15:46,910 --> 01:15:48,190
There was more to it, though.
1165
01:15:49,370 --> 01:15:51,010
She can't blame people for talking.
1166
01:15:54,190 --> 01:15:55,930
But that's the way it always goes for
me.
1167
01:15:56,550 --> 01:16:00,070
As soon as I get close to a girl, she
backs off.
1168
01:16:02,250 --> 01:16:04,230
Kip, listen to me.
1169
01:16:05,290 --> 01:16:07,710
There was never anything more between us
than friendship.
1170
01:16:08,570 --> 01:16:09,950
And there was never going to be.
1171
01:16:16,150 --> 01:16:17,290
That's great, Miss Gill.
1172
01:16:18,450 --> 01:16:20,830
Are you saying that I'm not even a
little bit special to you?
1173
01:16:25,420 --> 01:16:26,880
That was the last time that I saw Kip.
1174
01:16:28,420 --> 01:16:30,120
And three days later, he killed himself.
1175
01:16:36,700 --> 01:16:37,700
Thank you.
1176
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:39,300
No further questions, Your Honor.
1177
01:16:51,820 --> 01:16:55,360
So it's your testimony that you never
had sexual relations with Kip
1178
01:16:55,460 --> 01:16:56,460
Yes, it is.
1179
01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:00,080
But you do admit to visiting him in his
home after hours on two occasions.
1180
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:01,840
Yes.
1181
01:17:02,300 --> 01:17:05,400
Well, it's an interesting coincidence,
wouldn't you say?
1182
01:17:05,820 --> 01:17:07,880
These three boys say you went over there
twice.
1183
01:17:08,220 --> 01:17:11,400
You say you went over there twice. Can
you account for this similarity in both
1184
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:12,400
stories?
1185
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:14,560
No, I can't.
1186
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:19,580
All I can figure is that maybe Kip told
them that I had been over there as part
1187
01:17:19,580 --> 01:17:21,040
of his proof that we were sleeping
together.
1188
01:17:22,670 --> 01:17:25,670
Do you deny having dinner with Patsy
Newbeck on November 17th?
1189
01:17:26,550 --> 01:17:28,050
Not the way she described it.
1190
01:17:28,450 --> 01:17:29,490
We had dinner, yes.
1191
01:17:29,770 --> 01:17:30,850
Oh, I see.
1192
01:17:31,090 --> 01:17:33,590
So once again, only the sex part is a
lie.
1193
01:17:33,830 --> 01:17:37,910
Your Honor, I think we can all do
without Mr. Cleaver's sidebar
1194
01:17:38,130 --> 01:17:38,909
I agree.
1195
01:17:38,910 --> 01:17:40,110
Watch your tone, Mr. Cleaver.
1196
01:17:40,550 --> 01:17:41,550
Sorry, Your Honor.
1197
01:17:42,790 --> 01:17:47,890
Mrs. Gill, about these problems you say
you were helping Kip with, do you have
1198
01:17:47,890 --> 01:17:50,210
some training that qualifies you to
counsel troubled kids?
1199
01:17:50,710 --> 01:17:52,090
No special training, no.
1200
01:17:52,490 --> 01:17:55,550
The school has guidance counselors,
don't they? Couldn't you have referred
1201
01:17:55,550 --> 01:17:56,550
to one of them?
1202
01:17:56,590 --> 01:17:58,750
Or told his parents that he was having
difficulty?
1203
01:17:59,370 --> 01:18:02,470
Some of his problems had to do with his
family, Mr. Cleaver.
1204
01:18:03,070 --> 01:18:05,170
So no, I didn't think that was
appropriate.
1205
01:18:06,310 --> 01:18:10,490
And when you realized Kip was developing
romantic feelings for you, you also
1206
01:18:10,490 --> 01:18:11,770
declined to tell anyone in authority.
1207
01:18:12,050 --> 01:18:14,990
Was that because you were afraid of
being asked what you'd done to lead him
1208
01:18:16,290 --> 01:18:17,350
Perhaps that was part of it.
1209
01:18:17,570 --> 01:18:19,290
Because you had led him on?
1210
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,940
Because women get asked that question a
lot.
1211
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:30,620
Mrs. Gill, let's talk about the second
time you went to visit Kip at his home.
1212
01:18:31,100 --> 01:18:33,740
I noticed you didn't have much to say
about that on direct examination.
1213
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,980
There wasn't much to tell. It was pretty
much the same as the first time.
1214
01:18:39,480 --> 01:18:41,320
He called me. He sounded upset.
1215
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,640
I picked him up. We drove around.
1216
01:18:44,380 --> 01:18:46,100
When he calmed down, I brought him home.
1217
01:18:46,700 --> 01:18:47,700
Mrs. Gill.
1218
01:18:47,710 --> 01:18:50,150
Your own testimony proves this was a far
different encounter.
1219
01:18:50,810 --> 01:18:53,990
Because by then, you knew that this
young boy was interested in a lot more
1220
01:18:53,990 --> 01:18:54,990
hand -holding, didn't you?
1221
01:18:59,650 --> 01:19:01,550
Yes, I knew he had a crush on me.
1222
01:19:01,770 --> 01:19:03,470
And yet, you went to see him anyway.
1223
01:19:03,730 --> 01:19:08,290
You, a married woman, a teacher. This
student calls you, and you rush right
1224
01:19:08,290 --> 01:19:09,350
there. You drop whatever you're doing.
1225
01:19:09,570 --> 01:19:12,330
Now, would you do that if you didn't
have some feeling for him? He sounded
1226
01:19:12,330 --> 01:19:13,610
he was in trouble, Mr. Cleaver.
1227
01:19:13,830 --> 01:19:17,050
No, Mrs. Gill. I submit, you went
because you cared for him, too.
1228
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:23,440
Mr. Cleaver, I admit it. I cared.
1229
01:19:24,020 --> 01:19:27,340
It's hard not to care about a kid who
wants to be liked so much. And yes,
1230
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:31,360
looking back, I think that maybe it
wasn't the greatest idea to go over
1231
01:19:31,740 --> 01:19:35,180
But at the time when he called me
begging me, please come, Mrs. Gill,
1232
01:19:35,180 --> 01:19:38,240
only person in the world I can talk to.
I didn't stop to think. Your Honor. Gee,
1233
01:19:38,340 --> 01:19:42,200
what's everyone going to think? I just
went. Your Honor. I cared. Mrs. Gill. I
1234
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,260
thought good teachers were supposed to
care. Mrs. Gill.
1235
01:19:45,060 --> 01:19:46,060
That's enough now.
1236
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:48,780
Mrs. Gill, do you need a moment?
1237
01:19:57,110 --> 01:19:58,110
Mr. Cleaver.
1238
01:19:58,530 --> 01:20:00,270
At this time, I have no further
questions.
1239
01:20:14,430 --> 01:20:21,290
Ladies and gentlemen, during jury
selection, I asked
1240
01:20:21,290 --> 01:20:23,950
each of you what you thought we should
expect of our teachers.
1241
01:20:25,260 --> 01:20:29,140
Each of you indicated that you expected
teachers not only to teach, but also to
1242
01:20:29,140 --> 01:20:31,780
be role models, to provide examples.
1243
01:20:32,660 --> 01:20:37,820
Measuring from that standard, it's clear
that Paulette Gill failed in her
1244
01:20:37,820 --> 01:20:39,820
responsibility to the students in her
care.
1245
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,400
She claims she drew the line at
intimacy.
1246
01:20:44,100 --> 01:20:47,100
But three young men from this town say
otherwise.
1247
01:20:48,380 --> 01:20:52,280
The defense has not produced a single
witness who can explain what would
1248
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:57,260
motivate... three boys of outstanding
reputation, to come in here and lie to
1249
01:20:57,260 --> 01:21:03,580
you. On the other hand, many witnesses
can testify to the fact that time after
1250
01:21:03,580 --> 01:21:07,460
time, this defendant crossed over the
line to what many people would consider
1251
01:21:07,460 --> 01:21:09,220
unacceptable conduct.
1252
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,500
She herself admits she met with Kip
repeatedly outside of school.
1253
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:20,040
Is it possible that this attractive,
sexually sophisticated woman Did not
1254
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:23,480
comprehend the effect this would have on
an inexperienced young boy?
1255
01:21:25,020 --> 01:21:31,700
Let us send a message that in this town,
traditional standards of decency are
1256
01:21:31,700 --> 01:21:35,720
still the measure of behavior, and that
those who don't adhere to those
1257
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:37,760
standards will be punished.
1258
01:21:38,700 --> 01:21:44,340
If you apply common sense as well as the
law, I am confident that you will
1259
01:21:44,340 --> 01:21:48,620
conclude that Paulette Gill is guilty of
sexual assault.
1260
01:21:51,110 --> 01:21:51,650
Thank you
1261
01:21:51,650 --> 01:22:03,910
From
1262
01:22:03,910 --> 01:22:10,790
the beginning I felt that the most
extraordinary thing about this case
1263
01:22:10,790 --> 01:22:15,190
was that it was being prosecuted at all
She was intimate with him.
1264
01:22:15,810 --> 01:22:21,160
That's what they say Maybe Kip and
Paulette did have a kind of intimacy The
1265
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:25,000
that occurs when one person reaches out
to another person and says you're not
1266
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:26,000
alone.
1267
01:22:26,540 --> 01:22:29,620
The state has suggested that this case
represents a sign of the times.
1268
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:31,160
I agree.
1269
01:22:31,540 --> 01:22:35,840
I think that the prosecution of this
woman suggests that we have reached an
1270
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:41,040
when simple human kindness is so rare
that those who act out of it come under
1271
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:42,040
immediate suspicion.
1272
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,740
Particularly by the people who in this
case were unable to do what Mrs. Gill
1273
01:22:46,740 --> 01:22:47,740
able to do.
1274
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:48,760
Reach this boy.
1275
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:53,940
And it is my opinion that they want to
blame her for his death because their
1276
01:22:53,940 --> 01:22:56,080
only alternative is to blame themselves.
1277
01:22:57,820 --> 01:23:00,140
As to why these young men lied, I can
only speculate.
1278
01:23:01,100 --> 01:23:04,620
Maybe in the wake of Kip's death, they
honestly wondered if there wasn't
1279
01:23:04,620 --> 01:23:06,020
something to his story after all.
1280
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:07,820
Maybe they felt guilty.
1281
01:23:08,700 --> 01:23:13,380
And if the price of easing that guilt
was the reputation of this teacher, this
1282
01:23:13,380 --> 01:23:15,300
outsider, well, so be it.
1283
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,060
Remember, folks, they could not have
foreseen it would come to this.
1284
01:23:19,980 --> 01:23:24,200
They simply told their parents, who
called the police, who informed the
1285
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:31,060
Somebody tipped the press off, and here
we are, deciding the fate of this woman
1286
01:23:31,060 --> 01:23:35,460
on the basis of this same absurd,
childish story.
1287
01:23:37,420 --> 01:23:41,220
It has come to this because at every
step of the way, people who should have
1288
01:23:41,220 --> 01:23:44,020
known better stood by and did nothing.
1289
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,040
Well, I submit to you now.
1290
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:53,160
At its high time, somebody in this case
stood up and did the right thing.
1291
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:57,840
And I'm sure that you will.
1292
01:24:27,500 --> 01:24:30,360
They have two weeks of testimony to go
over. I'll be very surprised if we hear
1293
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:31,360
anything before tomorrow.
1294
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:36,140
Paulette, I've just been informed by the
Baltimore's attorney that the
1295
01:24:36,140 --> 01:24:38,260
Baltimore's are filing a civil action
against him.
1296
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:39,600
On what ground?
1297
01:24:39,700 --> 01:24:42,260
I haven't had a chance to go through it.
I'm sure they've cooked up some theory
1298
01:24:42,260 --> 01:24:44,100
of how Paulette deprived them of their
son.
1299
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:46,400
Paulette, now this is really a nonsense
suit.
1300
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:48,080
It's going to be okay. No, it's not.
1301
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,020
This thing is never going to end.
1302
01:24:52,860 --> 01:24:54,840
It's all right. No, it's not.
1303
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:56,080
I love you, Paulette.
1304
01:24:56,270 --> 01:24:57,270
We'll get through this.
1305
01:24:57,430 --> 01:25:00,830
I'd just like to say that money is not
the issue here.
1306
01:25:01,310 --> 01:25:05,330
My concern is that this woman not be
allowed to teach anywhere else.
1307
01:25:06,210 --> 01:25:07,630
My son Kip is gone.
1308
01:25:08,130 --> 01:25:11,390
But what about the other kids that are
still out there? What do they have to
1309
01:25:11,390 --> 01:25:12,389
look up to?
1310
01:25:12,390 --> 01:25:14,750
What are their teachers representing to
them?
1311
01:25:16,410 --> 01:25:19,770
Isn't this lawsuit a little inconsistent
with your testimony last week when you
1312
01:25:19,770 --> 01:25:22,290
said that you did not blame Mrs. Gill
for Pip's death?
1313
01:25:22,630 --> 01:25:24,610
Well, since then, new information has
come to light.
1314
01:25:24,810 --> 01:25:27,630
Mrs. Gill's own testimony shows that
such an influence exists.
1315
01:25:28,050 --> 01:25:30,890
Ma 'am, are you just looking for a
scapegoat?
1316
01:25:32,490 --> 01:25:34,290
That's not the kind of people we are.
1317
01:25:34,770 --> 01:25:35,770
Jerry's back.
1318
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,300
What do you suppose it means, jury only
being gone an hour?
1319
01:26:26,620 --> 01:26:28,680
They had their minds made up before they
went out.
1320
01:26:39,860 --> 01:26:41,400
Will the defendant please rise?
1321
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:52,800
Madam Foreman, have you reached a
verdict?
1322
01:26:55,150 --> 01:26:56,170
We have, Your Honor.
1323
01:27:00,790 --> 01:27:06,070
In the matter of the State of California
v. Paulette Gill, we, the jury, find
1324
01:27:06,070 --> 01:27:09,090
the defendant, Paulette Gill, not
guilty.
1325
01:27:56,140 --> 01:27:59,080
All I can say is the jury has spoken and
we accept their decision. Now you'll
1326
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:00,160
have to excuse me. Okay.
1327
01:28:03,420 --> 01:28:04,420
Oh, Paulette.
1328
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,120
You decide you want to get your teaching
credentials back.
1329
01:28:07,660 --> 01:28:08,660
Let me know.
1330
01:28:09,180 --> 01:28:10,440
Oh, I'll never teach again.
1331
01:28:10,860 --> 01:28:13,220
Why don't we get the credentials back
and then you can think it over.
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