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We had scheduled a bout with Gino
Hernandez.
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However, we've reached a milestone, a
sad moment in world -class championship
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wrestling. Gino Hernandez is dead.
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On February the 4th, 1986, the
professional wrestling world was in
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28 -year -old wrestler Gino Hernandez
was dead.
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The popular wrestling star's badly
decomposed body was discovered late last
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night at his home in Highland Park.
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He had apparently been dead for several
days. So a lot of people, when Gino
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died, they know exactly what happened.
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And I'm listening to the person telling
the story, and it's not even close to
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true. Because I live the story.
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Dallas police say Hernandez might have
been murdered.
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The rumor grows, the story grows, and it
gets more grandiose as it grows.
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At the time of Gino's death, Gino was
already a major talent.
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He was caught up in a very fast life.
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And as a result of that, he paid. And he
paid.
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with his life.
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Well, in all respect to Gino Hernandez,
I think the Gino Hernandez you saw in
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the ring was very much like the Gino
Hernandez outside the ring. And he was
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who typically did everything his way. As
a mother, I've got a lot of questions
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that nobody has ever, ever answered me.
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Many believe that Gino's death was a
tragic accident.
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But for over 30 years, family members
and wrestlers have believed it to be
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murder. Well, I think there are a lot of
rumors in wrestling, and it just comes
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from us being able to tell a story, man.
We're trying to figure out the inside
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scoop on everything.
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The only people that know what really
happened to Gino was whoever was there.
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A lot has been taken away from me, and
God has blessed me to let me stay here
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this long and say this, finally.
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I think my son was murdered.
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I don't think it.
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I almost know it.
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In this episode, we put to rest decades
of rumors and investigate one of
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wrestling's darkest mysteries.
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Beautiful pictures, beautiful memories
with our beautiful family.
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He had a wonderful personality.
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He was a good son.
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He was a good father.
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And I want everybody to remember him as
a good man.
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I think the hardest thing for me was
when he became a bad guy. And as a child
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the wrestling matches, like, people
throwing pennies at us. All these girls
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coming up to the ring saying, sign it.
And he'd, like, rip it and throw it. And
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I was like a little girl. I was like,
oh, no.
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That's a bad guy.
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As I say in the ring, Gino was evil.
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Don't attempt to adjust your sensor.
What you see is real. The most gorgeous
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human being on this earth.
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He had it.
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He was special.
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He was the type of guy that could have
fit right in with a Randy Macho Man
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Savage or some of those guys. So who
knows where Gino would have went.
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You can't buy it. You can't steal it.
You can't borrow it.
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You got it or you don't.
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It's called charisma.
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And he had charisma.
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You had tag matches.
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Yeah. Who's the wrestler that you hate
the most?
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Gino! Gino!
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cocky, arrogant, good -looking,
talented.
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If you were to see Gino, you would have
thought he was connected or he was a
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celebrity of some type.
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He always just looked like money.
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He was all about the finest suits, the
finest custom -made shirts, the rings
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the watches. You name it, that was Gino.
And it wasn't a gimmick.
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That was him. If he wanted to, he could
take that room and have everybody in
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that room hating his guts.
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and wanting to kill them in real life.
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I overcome any obstacle in my life, and
especially some hormone -imbound female
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that tries to stick her nose in a man's
business.
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Thank you, Tom.
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And it's easy to hate somebody who's
good -looking, who's got money or
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and has a pretty girl on the side, and
must be nice.
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Full head of hair, got all that shit,
you know.
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I'd like to show you and the people
pictures, no other.
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Farrah Fawcett, I think they had a few
dates. Who does she choose to be with?
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wife was on the front row, and he said
some of the things he would say to them.
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I don't know that I wouldn't be waiting
outside to knock him out. It almost came
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natural for me.
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One night, Geno had said something, and
he insulted to the point this big cowboy
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guy was getting up. He was headed to the
ring, and the police stopped him.
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Well, Geno starts saying, let him go,
let him go, let him come in here, to the
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point he convinced the police to let him
go.
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And then Gino's telling me, stop him,
stop him. He's whispering in the back of
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my ear.
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But I told him in the dressing room, I
said, you bit that off, you chew it.
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David Manning, I was the referee and
promoter and booker for world -class
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championship wrestling from 77, 78, till
around 89.
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Probably I'd been in the business for
about three, four years, five years,
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Gino started coming in.
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At that time, I was a referee and he was
a wrestler.
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The greatest thing about Gino being a
heel was, one, the microphone.
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Gino is one of the few pieces of talent.
I'd actually put Gino in the category
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of a Ric Flair, a Jim Cornette, Michael
Hayes, the people that you just hand
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them a mic and they can do it. Tonight's
the night. I told you I brought out the
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$60 ,000 limo. Tonight, the world junior
heavyweight champion. Not bad for a kid
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from Spring Branch High, huh?
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You know, he was real close with the
promoter Paul Bosch in Houston. Where
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got his big, big break was Houston.
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Gorgeous Gino.
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I remember meeting Gino when he had to
be 17, 18 years old. Good -looking guy,
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you know, good body and everything, and
had chicks all over him. Full of
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himself, conceited. I was just a kid, so
he treated me like a kid at
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the time.
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I was a professional model at one time.
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Most of the time, I just took care of my
daughter and my son, Gino. I was a
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single parent.
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Do you prefer to call him Charles or
Gino?
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No, Gino. Well, if you were asked, would
you rather use the name Charles or
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Gino? Because Gino always referred to
himself as Gorgeous Gino. Gorgeous Gino
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Hernandez.
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G -G with two Gs on the back of his
jacket.
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He had Lewis's name.
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Gino sometimes would kind of prance
around, brag that his dad was Luis
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Hernandez, you know. Did they play
wrestle at all in the house and stuff?
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Lord, yes.
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From morning to night.
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Well, I've always been a fan of
wrestling all my life, and my father was
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wrestler, and he died when I was 12
years old.
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And I began to start training for
wrestling from the time I was in high
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and I turned professional at the age of
17 right out of high school.
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When he got into the ring, it was like
he had been wrestling for years.
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He was flying off the rope, and I'm
going, where did he learn that from?
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He said, my dad did it for me. I was
wearing his shoes.
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He said he did everything for me.
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And, of course, I had to cry when he
told me that.
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We were married very young. We were both
18, and we had our first child. That
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started our family.
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I'm Janice Gillespie, and I grew up in
Houston, Texas, and that is where I met
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Charles Wolfe, who you might know as
Gina Hernandez.
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After we were married, he kept his life
very separate. So he had a professional
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life, and he'd work out in the morning,
and then he'd have a workout in the
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afternoon, and it really consumed most
of his day.
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His family. There was really very little
mixing outside of just family.
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It was the soft side of him. It was
really a pushover. He loved his children
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very, very much.
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Everybody knows I'm the man of the hour,
the man with the power. Too sweet to be
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sour. You know, going back and, like,
watching the footage and hearing him
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227 pounds of twisted steel and sex
appeal.
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It's like a voice I always knew.
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Really, everywhere we went.
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People knew he was Gino.
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He would get into his persona, his
character, especially when he became a
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He would really be very, very
intimidating. It made me very
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around him when you would see him like
that.
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Has there been times in your life where
your wrestling persona has bled into
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your real life?
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Jake Roberts never had a problem in his
life. He's a bad guy.
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about anybody, and he's going to do what
he pleases, and he's going to go on
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with life.
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And he will f*** you up.
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Aurelian Smith, on the other hand, is a
human being, man, that cares about other
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people.
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He's made some mistakes.
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He's a recovering alcoholic addict.
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So, yeah, that guy has problems.
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Jake Snake doesn't. For people to get
mad at me for when I get on TV and say
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the latest and I'm the greatest and I'm
so fine that I'm divine, for people to
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say I'm conceited, I don't understand
it.
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He lived his gimmick in the ring, and he
lived it out of the ring. We're into
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sports cars, we're into fast cars,
faster women, and fast life.
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He lived it, he ate it, and he slept it.
He loved every minute, and he could
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bring that on just like that.
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And I used to tell him, you can drop
that now, I know who you are.
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I know that he and Chris had a very
successful tag team, a dynamic duo.
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Chris Adams was, he was a good guy. He
could be a good friend as long as
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wasn't involved.
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They were a great team.
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We got the looks.
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We got the ability.
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We got the money. We got the women. We
got the build.
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And from now on, we are number one.
We're bad. We're real bad.
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We're bad to the bone.
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All right.
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They're bad to the bone. Well, there
they go. Chris Adams and Gino Hernandez.
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See you guys.
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Gino's social life and his life outside
of wrestling was just as flamboyant
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as...
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inside the Coliseum when Geno came to
perform.
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As a matter of fact, one of the
highlighted matches at one of the
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we ever had was at the Cotton Bowl.
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It's all come down to the Cotton Bowl
tomorrow at 3 p .m. And it was Geno and
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Chris Adams against Kevin and Kerry, a
hair match.
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Chris and Geno both had just gorgeous
hair down, you know, the whole thing,
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sculptured look. And the Bonnards both
had long hair, so people weren't sure
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what was going to happen here.
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And he would get in that ring, and he
just owned the crowd. He knew exactly
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he was doing. I've seen a lot of
wrestlers in my life, and I've seen a
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guys try to do what Geno did, and he was
such an artist.
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And sure enough, Geno and Chris Lawson,
I remember they would hold him in those
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seats, and they brought the razors out.
The crowd was going crazy. They were
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cheering. They were so happy. These guys
were fixing to lose their hair.
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And they had the perfect reaction, you
know, and it just elevated the feud.
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There was a nightclub in Houston called
Judges that Gino frequented quite a bit.
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That was the place to go on Friday night
after the matches and party all night
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long. My name is Jeannie Williams.
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In 1985, Chris asked me to move to
Dallas, and he said, you live next door
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friend Gino Hernandez.
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So Gino and I were neighbors.
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Gino was front and center, man. It
wasn't like it was a secret that Gino
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drugs, from smoking dope to cocaine and
uppers and downers. It was the 70s and
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80s, and we all did. I never saw Gino
out of control on drugs.
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But Gino liked to party and have a good
time.
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Gino comes knocking on the door. His
eyes are huge, and he's like, touch my
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head, oh my God, my hair, because they
just had their hair shaved. And so we
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decided we'd go to a nightclub.
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We get in the car and he's going about
100 miles an hour and he has this tiny
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piece of paper and he says, just take
this.
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We get to the club and then everybody's
just, everything's going all strange and
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Gino is laughing.
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I want to go to the bathroom and as I
was walking it was like my feet were
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in clouds and I come to find out
afterwards that Gino had I
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was in Las Vegas one time, and
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Gino had a friend with him. This
particular gentleman had a plane. They
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rented the whole top suite floor of the
hotel there, just partying for like
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three days.
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But I knew a lot of those guys were, I
don't know if they were furnishing it
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to him, but from that time on after Las
Vegas, it was just a slowly progression.
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Gino just...
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He ran with a pretty tough crowd at
Houston. You know, if you hang around
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trouble, you're going to get trouble.
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It's like I always say, getting into the
wrestling is like getting into the mob.
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Once you're in, you're in.
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It can go the other way, too.
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So you've got to watch who you hang out
with.
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Unknown to his family, Geno had been
running with a fast and dangerous crowd.
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But the party wouldn't last much longer.
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Do you know or have you heard about some
of those people that he was hanging
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around, those heavier folks?
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I just heard it was like, no, I don't
know. I'm going to say, I don't know.
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What I said is what it was.
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I heard the people that you didn't mess
with that had power in the city of
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Houston and Dallas, and there's
certainly those kind of people out
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Well, when our children were young, we
divorced.
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I just didn't feel so safe about some of
the people he might be hanging out
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with, things I was hearing.
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These were strong, powerful people
within the city that might not have
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certain things getting out.
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There was just a side of him and people
he ran with that I felt dangerous.
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By 1986, there was a shift in the
dynamic duo's storyline.
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We saw Chris and Gino turn against each
other.
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igniting a vicious robbery.
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Yeah,
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one of Geno's last matches was he and
Chris, we did a gimmick where, I think
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it's Nair, it was like, you know, girls
get it to get rid of hair.
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Geno sprayed it in Chris's eyes, and for
weeks, Chris wore this thing he
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couldn't see and stuff like this.
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Whatever the gimmick was in the ring,
that was the gimmick out of the ring.
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And so even around in the public, Chris
would, you know, like he couldn't hardly
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see. And his wife, Toni, would lead him
around and bumping into chairs. And
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that's what I really liked about that.
Whatever happened, you took it with you.
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Do you remember the last time you saw
him? Can you tell me about that?
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Super Bowl Sunday, 1986.
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He was in a hurry, always in a hurry.
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Did he seem like he was worried about
anything to you at that time? Mm -hmm.
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you talk about that?
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It was very fidgety and nervous when he
came in.
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Say what you got to say and leave.
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She knew something was going on because
he had come home to her home and he had
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something and he put it somewhere in her
home and he was acting nervous
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and antsy and felt like something might
happen to him and who it was.
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I don't think she knew who he was afraid
of or who he was worried about.
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Do you know what he hid in her house?
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No. Was he nervous?
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Yeah, real nervous.
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And Gina wasn't afraid of anything. But
there's certain things you can't dodge.
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If somebody wants to get you, they'll
get you.
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He came to the matches one night, and he
came running in my office, and he was
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telling me this story.
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And he said, you wouldn't believe it,
Dave, you wouldn't believe it. And he
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said, I'm driving and I look in the back
and I can see someone sitting in the
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back. And he said, I didn't know what to
do. And he said, so I'm watching to see
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if they're going to try to stab me or
whatever. And he said, so all of a
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I just slammed on the brakes and then
they jumped out the back and they ran
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And he said, I think they were going to
kill me.
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He's like, I need a gun.
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I could just tell he was scared to
death.
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And so.
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I said, no, I don't have a gun with me,
Gino. I said, but I think you're okay. I
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think, you know, maybe you just saw
something.
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And he was like, no, no, no, they're
following me. I'm afraid something's
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to happen to me. You know, I've got to
get a gun. I've got to get a gun.
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He was adamant someone was sitting in
the back seat of his car, and he got a
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glimpse of him through his rearview
mirror.
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Maybe Gino was telling me the truth all
these times, that someone was either
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stalking him or someone was after him or
someone was going to kill him.
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That night was the last night I saw
Gino.
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The last time I saw Gino live, he said,
hey, kiddo, look what I got here. And he
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had a white box, and he said it was a
peach pie.
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And he said he was going out, but if I
wanted to stop by the next day, come and
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have a slice. It's delicious.
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On my birthday, February the 5th, 1986,
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Walter called me. He was Gino's manager.
He did a lot of Gino's booking.
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and he said, Patrice, have you heard
from Gino?
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I said, no, but why? He said, well, I
need to talk to him. I haven't heard
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him, but today's my birthday, and I know
he'll be calling me.
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I'll tell him to give you a call.
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The next day, I saw Gino's car parked.
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I noticed the car was sort of out of
alignment. The wheels were strange.
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Like, he parked it really quick.
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He missed a show up in Oklahoma.
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And it wasn't like him. But I didn't
think anything about it. And then we
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couldn't reach him. We tried to get a
hold of Gino. We couldn't reach him.
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The next day, the car was still the same
position.
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I'm going to go and check on him and
knock on his door. And I can't really
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good vision, but I did see a pie, the
pie.
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And then I heard that, you know, he
didn't show up in Houston, which was
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definitely unusual.
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When I went to the office on Monday and
I hadn't heard from Gino, I said, we got
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a problem. One of the guys that refereed
for us was named Rick Hazard.
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And I said, Rick, why don't you go over
to Gino's apartment and see if his car
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is here?
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And so he called me and he said, well,
the car is here, but no one's answering
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the door.
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And I said, why don't you see if you can
get over the wall and just peek in?
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And sure enough, Rick got over the wall.
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The way the bed was laying, at first he
couldn't see anything. He just happened
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to glance down, and where the bed ended,
he could see part of the body hanging
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out.
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At that point, they called the police.
The cops said he had been laying there,
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they estimated, about four to five days.
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Walter took some rest there and went to
the condo. They got in because Walter
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was the only one they had in key.
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There was a gun on the scene. So I don't
know where Gino got the gun, but there
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was a gun on the scene where they found
him.
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I'm standing outside Chris's apartment,
actually, and they're bringing out his
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body in a body bag. It's just like
something you're in denial.
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Probably about, I'd say, a very short
span of time, Walter calls me again.
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And he said, Patrice is...
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It's Walter.
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And I said, did Gino get in touch with
you? I said, he didn't call me, but have
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you found him? He said, yeah.
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I'm standing here in his condo.
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I said, well, is he okay?
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He said, he's dead.
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And he hung up.
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And I just started screaming.
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Death came to Gino Hernandez.
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Wrestling fans were shocked at the
sudden end to one of the brightest
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the game.
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His friends were saddened by an
irreplaceable loss of a vibrant young
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To his mother and sister, it was a
tragedy of indescribable magnitude.
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Police arrived at the home of wrestler
Gino Hernandez in February of 1986 and
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discovered his dead body.
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It was so decomposed that the exact
cause of death could not be determined.
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A loaded pistol was found next to his
right hand, and police found no sign of
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drugs or paraphernalia in the condo.
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Could you walk us through? You were at
his home, and you heard a knock on the
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door. Yeah, I was grieving.
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Mika and I was grieving.
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And he just knocked on the door, and he
said,
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I would like to come in and discuss the
funeral. Well, of course I let him in.
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Gino knew him.
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Gino went places with him.
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But I really didn't know him.
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We're both sitting facing each other,
sitting on the floor, and I can
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he says to me, Gino owed me a lot of
money,
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but just don't you worry about it.
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Because I'm going to pay for his
funeral.
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I was sitting there, and I know how I
felt looking at him.
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I was scared to death.
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Did what he said at the time feel like
it was a threat?
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Yeah. Well, it's just the tone of voice
and the way somebody looks at you when
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they stick their finger in you, and they
lean in to you like, do you hear me?
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No remorse, no empathy, nothing.
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Nothing.
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I'm an intelligent woman, and I can read
a person pretty doggone well eye -to
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-eye contact.
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That tells you a lot.
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You know, I remember walking into the
funeral.
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Went up, paid our respects.
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There was a platinum casket.
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It was closed casket.
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So many people.
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I dressed the finest I could dress, like
a movie
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star, because I knew Gina wanted me to
look that way.
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There were a lot of people that were
hurting his mom and his sister. My gosh,
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and that was just painful to know they
were hurting.
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There was a group of men, and Patrice
would probably know who they were more
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than I would, that took care of all the
finances of that funeral, and it was a
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very expensive funeral.
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They do the service at the gravesite,
and then they had a bottle of champagne,
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they had glasses, and people were
pouring champagne. And to you, Gino,
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the champagne and breaking champagne
glasses, you know, into the casket and
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toasting Gino.
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When you were looking at all of this, it
just was surreal to a point.
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Almost like an out -of -body experience
a little bit.
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There was a gentleman there that did a
eulogy that talked about Gino getting on
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planes and going to Vegas and beating up
a guy and putting him in a headlock. It
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was just weird.
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It was totally off.
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And it was almost like people going, who
the hell is this guy?
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and to some of us that hadn't been
around for a while, we just thought it
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you know, a new friend or whatever.
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We had no clue.
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At his funeral, there was a lot of rich
people. You might assume drug dealing
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is going on.
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And people made comments like, do you
know who that is? And I had no clue who
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is. If you were to put him in a line
today, I wouldn't know who it is.
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But people talking about, oh, well,
he's, he's, uh...
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He's wanted by the authority show.
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I don't know who the hell he is.
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Who was the guy that gave the eulogy?
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It was John Royal.
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Did you know any of the activity that
John Royal was involved in at all?
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I just heard that he was a drug dealer.
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I mean, I didn't know anything about the
man, period.
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As far as I know right now, he's in
prison.
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I would have done just pretty much
anything then just to make sure my
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was safe and I was too.
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And that's the way it's been all these
years.
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I didn't talk to anybody until I talked
to you guys.
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As the Hernandez family mourned Gino's
mysterious death, many questions
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unanswered. Rumors began to fly
throughout the resting community.
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and beyond.
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So a lot of people, when Gino died, were
immediately telling the story. Here's
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what happened.
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Andre the Giant told us that he knew for
a fact that Gino had been shot in the
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head.
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And that was not the case.
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I heard from somebody that he was close
with that he used to take trips down to
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Houston, Southwest Airlines, several
times a week to go down to Houston for
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I don't know. The rumor mill was that he
had gambled and that he owed.
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Some money on a football game.
424
00:26:27,010 --> 00:26:30,810
And so you got all these different
rumors. And with Chris and with Gino,
425
00:26:30,810 --> 00:26:34,670
the conflict going on. Police have
received several telephone calls from
426
00:26:34,670 --> 00:26:37,530
concerned fans who say Hernandez might
have been murdered.
427
00:26:37,810 --> 00:26:42,110
And immediately it's like, well, Chris
did it. Why? The guy blinded him.
428
00:26:42,410 --> 00:26:45,970
Had you ever heard that all the world
-class fans called the police saying it
429
00:26:45,970 --> 00:26:46,969
must have been Chris?
430
00:26:46,970 --> 00:26:48,030
I did hear that.
431
00:26:48,290 --> 00:26:52,990
And I think the police actually did
contact Chris.
432
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,180
about the murder of Gina.
433
00:26:55,620 --> 00:26:59,560
That goes to show just how believable
world -class championship wrestling was.
434
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,960
That somebody would go to the death to
think, Jesus, he killed that guy because
435
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:03,960
that guy took his eyesight.
436
00:27:04,260 --> 00:27:06,700
This is a case that we're talking 30
years ago.
437
00:27:07,580 --> 00:27:10,160
And there's been a lot of rumors like
this.
438
00:27:10,460 --> 00:27:12,540
None of the family members were ever
allowed to see him.
439
00:27:12,860 --> 00:27:17,140
His corpse, his body was just so
guarded.
440
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,480
Who was telling you guys that?
441
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,240
Um, I think Walter.
442
00:27:22,910 --> 00:27:26,310
It would just be too shocking because he
had been dead for so long that they
443
00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:27,910
didn't want anybody to see him.
444
00:27:28,810 --> 00:27:31,170
I'm pretty meticulous about saving
everything.
445
00:27:31,530 --> 00:27:36,570
This is the suitcase that I put
everything in after I had collected
446
00:27:36,570 --> 00:27:40,530
he had passed away, anything that I
could get my hands on because I never
447
00:27:40,530 --> 00:27:41,509
go in his apartment.
448
00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:47,550
As a mother, I've got a lot of questions
that nobody has ever, ever answered me.
449
00:27:48,150 --> 00:27:51,070
I said, well, I'll tell you what, I'll
just do my own investigating.
450
00:27:51,930 --> 00:27:57,110
And if I can find out the right person
to contact, I'll contact that person and
451
00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:58,110
take care of it myself.
452
00:27:59,370 --> 00:28:01,150
Worry about the consequences later.
453
00:28:01,710 --> 00:28:03,290
And that's exactly what I did.
454
00:28:03,570 --> 00:28:07,310
I think there was foul play in Gino's
death only because, one, he was super
455
00:28:07,310 --> 00:28:08,310
paranoid.
456
00:28:08,670 --> 00:28:13,390
When he walked into his apartment, he
locked the doors. And he had a deadbolt
457
00:28:13,390 --> 00:28:18,250
the inside. So the deadbolt was not
locked from the inside of the apartment.
458
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:21,410
It never made any sense to me. The
deadbolt wasn't on.
459
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,620
And he always locked up. So somebody was
there with him.
460
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,600
Well, who was there with him?
461
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,320
And left him alone.
462
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,640
If it would have been me and I would
have said, you need to do an autopsy
463
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:34,640
because someone murdered him.
464
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,520
The autopsy report, when they found him
and he had been dead for a while, I
465
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,680
asked what happened.
466
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,160
I believe they said that it might be a
drug overdose.
467
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:50,130
I remember talking to the coroner and he
said that, you know, He had cocaine in
468
00:28:50,130 --> 00:28:52,530
his system, but he had five times the
amount.
469
00:28:52,990 --> 00:28:56,010
I believe I was told he had enough that
could have killed an elephant.
470
00:28:56,410 --> 00:29:00,270
He had more than just enough to
overdose. He had three or four or five
471
00:29:00,270 --> 00:29:02,330
his body that it would take to overdose.
472
00:29:02,690 --> 00:29:07,490
The medical examiner had said that he
didn't understand how that much cocaine
473
00:29:07,490 --> 00:29:09,830
could get in someone, you know, be
ingested.
474
00:29:10,870 --> 00:29:13,910
It makes you question, you know, what
the hell happened.
475
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:16,730
All top three reports said he was
morbidly obese.
476
00:29:17,290 --> 00:29:18,610
It's so that he was Hispanic.
477
00:29:19,030 --> 00:29:23,190
She asked me, she said, now, I'm pretty
sure about this because, you know, I did
478
00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:26,270
give birth to him. Was Gino circumcised?
479
00:29:26,490 --> 00:29:27,570
I said, well, he was.
480
00:29:28,150 --> 00:29:31,450
Well, the autopsy report said it was an
uncircumcised male.
481
00:29:31,670 --> 00:29:32,950
How did that make you feel?
482
00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:38,850
Well, first of all, is that even really
him? If it's not him, I wondered
483
00:29:38,850 --> 00:29:42,530
sometimes, could he have, would he have
faked his own death?
484
00:29:43,330 --> 00:29:45,230
When we were married.
485
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,300
There was a comedy sitcom. I don't
remember the name of it. The main
486
00:29:50,300 --> 00:29:51,740
had faked his own death.
487
00:29:52,060 --> 00:29:55,280
He was in some sort of trouble, whether
it was tax evasion or he was trying to
488
00:29:55,280 --> 00:30:00,960
hide from somebody after him. He had
left a wife and a child and came back
489
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:01,960
years later.
490
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,200
Gino had said, I'm going to do that
someday. That's what I would do.
491
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,180
Well, I wish that it wasn't him in
there.
492
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,300
But I know in my heart that if he was
alive, I'd have heard from him by now.
493
00:30:14,780 --> 00:30:18,720
She was wanting to push for answers and
really push for answers. And as a
494
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:25,160
mother, I felt for her. And I just, we
had the discussion that, well, if we
495
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,480
start stirring the pot, what's going to
keep them from doing something to, you
496
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,419
know, our children?
497
00:30:30,420 --> 00:30:33,620
At this point, it's sort of your working
theory of what happened.
498
00:30:33,860 --> 00:30:37,700
It feels like he was probably killed,
that somebody murdered him. It feels
499
00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:38,700
way to me.
500
00:30:40,860 --> 00:30:43,340
That's what the rumblings were at the
time.
501
00:30:44,110 --> 00:30:45,270
that he had been murdered.
502
00:30:45,530 --> 00:30:48,250
And I could certainly see that happening
with Gino, you know.
503
00:30:48,490 --> 00:30:52,750
Some of the people he hung with were
powerful people. He may have pissed
504
00:30:52,750 --> 00:30:53,750
somebody off.
505
00:30:53,990 --> 00:31:00,810
If he were in some way involved with a
drug ring, maybe he knew
506
00:31:00,810 --> 00:31:01,810
something.
507
00:31:02,330 --> 00:31:08,370
And maybe they were worried he would
talk.
508
00:31:09,850 --> 00:31:12,550
Conspiracy theories about Gino's death
lingered on.
509
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,540
but it would take over 30 years before
answers began to surface.
510
00:31:22,980 --> 00:31:29,040
In the days leading up to Gino's
mysterious death, those closest to him
511
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,680
that he seemed fearful of something or
someone.
512
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:41,540
Of course, you know, this is hearsay,
you know, but it seemed to be that
513
00:31:41,540 --> 00:31:42,540
consensus.
514
00:31:42,879 --> 00:31:48,700
He, weeks leading up, or prior to his
death, he felt like somebody was going
515
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:54,200
kill him. To hear multiple people saying
that they got that from him as well,
516
00:31:54,460 --> 00:31:56,760
maybe this was a very real possibility.
517
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,820
You know, maybe this is what happened.
518
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,900
I was going to my car, and he was coming
in.
519
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,820
And he said, hey, why don't you come
along and have a cup of drink?
520
00:32:08,300 --> 00:32:09,300
So I said, okay.
521
00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:11,920
We actually walked to his apartment.
522
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,660
He walked into the kitchen and he had a
cabinet above his sink.
523
00:32:18,540 --> 00:32:23,600
He took out a cereal bowl and the bowl
was full of cocaine.
524
00:32:23,940 --> 00:32:29,140
There was a lot of cocaine in there. And
he put that on the counter and he
525
00:32:29,140 --> 00:32:30,320
started using the cocaine.
526
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:38,160
It wasn't very long, maybe 30 minutes,
40 minutes later,
527
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,260
he stopped speaking.
528
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:47,460
And when I talked, he said, he wasn't
being angry to me, but he was, don't
529
00:32:47,460 --> 00:32:51,940
speak. He kept going into the back and
looking out the window.
530
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:58,140
He had a quite intense paranoia. He puts
a plug in the sink and
531
00:32:58,140 --> 00:33:00,580
turns on the water.
532
00:33:01,220 --> 00:33:08,080
The water started coming over the top,
dripping onto the floor. I go to pull
533
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,040
plug out of the sink and...
534
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,840
He stopped me, pulled me back.
535
00:33:13,180 --> 00:33:19,520
He was a... The water was still falling
on the floor. I turned
536
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,260
just around a little bit.
537
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,200
He had a gun in his hand.
538
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,260
My heart stopped to beat at first.
539
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:35,200
And he was holding me, telling me to be
really quiet and could hear nothing but
540
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,200
the water.
541
00:33:37,940 --> 00:33:39,360
And he seemed...
542
00:33:39,630 --> 00:33:45,070
He'd be comforted that it was covering
up sound of some kind. Just the sound of
543
00:33:45,070 --> 00:33:50,110
the water seemed, for whatever reason,
he found that comforting.
544
00:33:51,450 --> 00:33:56,910
He would go to the windows and he would
just stare outside into the darkness.
545
00:33:57,810 --> 00:34:01,430
Over and over again, just looking
outside into the darkness.
546
00:34:03,530 --> 00:34:08,810
Because he was afraid, it seemed, of the
dark in his mind.
547
00:34:11,530 --> 00:34:15,929
Did you know or come to know at any
point that Gino had sort of issues with
548
00:34:15,929 --> 00:34:18,409
drugs? Yeah, because I was dealing with
him.
549
00:34:19,710 --> 00:34:20,710
Duh.
550
00:34:21,010 --> 00:34:26,370
I mean, I was no saint, man. I know that
Gino was doing coke, and I don't know
551
00:34:26,370 --> 00:34:27,370
how much he was doing.
552
00:34:28,190 --> 00:34:32,030
But the night I was there, he damn sure
had some, quite a bit there.
553
00:34:32,330 --> 00:34:35,350
You know, wasn't no eight ball, that's
for damn sure.
554
00:34:36,090 --> 00:34:40,590
I was surprised that there was not any
cocaine found by the police.
555
00:34:41,389 --> 00:34:45,409
But I did hear rumors that it was
cleaned up. I would just say a good
556
00:34:45,409 --> 00:34:49,290
told me that Rick was kind enough to
immediately, there was a bowl.
557
00:34:49,510 --> 00:34:51,409
He said it was crazy. It was almost like
a sugar bowl.
558
00:34:51,929 --> 00:34:54,230
And he said, I've never seen that much
blow in my life.
559
00:34:54,969 --> 00:34:55,969
It was full of Coke.
560
00:34:56,949 --> 00:34:59,110
Just out of reaction, he just took it
and dumped it.
561
00:34:59,710 --> 00:35:02,230
I don't think anyone else that was even
there knew that.
562
00:35:02,590 --> 00:35:04,530
I don't know who he thought. Maybe he
was protecting.
563
00:35:04,770 --> 00:35:07,770
But, you know, I think he just did it
out of instinct.
564
00:35:08,070 --> 00:35:10,330
Some of the wrestlers, including Chris.
565
00:35:11,370 --> 00:35:15,930
There might be more to it. Where was he
getting so much cocaine from?
566
00:35:19,410 --> 00:35:23,650
I was afraid then, very afraid, because
I haven't talked about it all these
567
00:35:23,650 --> 00:35:27,530
years. Because I got tired of looking
over my shoulder every time I walked out
568
00:35:27,530 --> 00:35:30,050
the apartment. And I've been living like
that ever since.
569
00:35:31,410 --> 00:35:33,290
Nobody should have to live like that.
570
00:35:34,330 --> 00:35:37,590
It took a lot of my life away from me.
And now...
571
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,900
You know, 77, where do I go from here?
572
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:46,920
Too much secrecy, too much lying, too
much deceit.
573
00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:52,220
I truly believe he's not here today
because of the people he chose to be
574
00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:56,540
I have nothing to lose because I've
already lost part of it.
575
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,380
You know, you can't take any more away
from me than you already have.
576
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,960
All we really want is just an answer.
577
00:36:05,620 --> 00:36:10,720
Shortly after Gino's family told their
story, producers contacted John Royal by
578
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:15,600
phone. He had recently served a 30 -year
prison term for trafficking cocaine.
579
00:36:16,020 --> 00:36:18,460
What follows is their recorded
conversation.
580
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,940
We're doing a documentary about Gino,
and we've been talking a lot with his
581
00:36:23,940 --> 00:36:27,840
family. Your name has come up a couple
of times because you were close friends
582
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:28,840
with Gino.
583
00:36:29,140 --> 00:36:33,780
Gino's mother had told us the story at a
time when you approached her.
584
00:36:34,410 --> 00:36:38,090
and had told her that you were going to
pay for the funeral. Is that true?
585
00:36:39,250 --> 00:36:40,250
Yeah.
586
00:36:40,490 --> 00:36:43,690
I think you had also said that Gino had
owed you a lot of money. Is that
587
00:36:43,690 --> 00:36:45,170
something that you had said to her as
well?
588
00:36:46,250 --> 00:36:47,770
No, Gino didn't owe me any money.
589
00:36:48,890 --> 00:36:50,430
I mean, I paid for the funeral.
590
00:36:50,650 --> 00:36:52,870
Right. But Gino didn't owe me any money.
591
00:36:53,350 --> 00:36:56,830
Well, that's really good to know. What
did she think? Did he owe me some money?
592
00:36:56,910 --> 00:36:58,590
Did I do something to him?
593
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:10,720
Had you ever heard any rumors about, you
know, Gino's death not being something
594
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:11,720
that was accidental?
595
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:13,880
No.
596
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:20,100
I was with him until like 1 o 'clock in
the morning the night he died.
597
00:37:20,340 --> 00:37:21,340
Right.
598
00:37:21,660 --> 00:37:27,060
We were at a pub club, and he was in a
good mood, and he was buying drinks, and
599
00:37:27,060 --> 00:37:28,240
he was drinking a lot.
600
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,200
I assumed that he was doing some drugs.
601
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,280
In addition
602
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:49,020
to John
603
00:37:49,020 --> 00:37:53,820
Royal's story, a former drug trafficker
who asked to remain anonymous has come
604
00:37:53,820 --> 00:37:55,560
forward with his version of events.
605
00:37:56,830 --> 00:38:01,010
Yeah, I really want to remain anonymous.
This was 30 years ago, and I'm not
606
00:38:01,010 --> 00:38:04,610
really here to sugarcoat anything. I
wanted to tell the truth. You know, I'd
607
00:38:04,610 --> 00:38:08,450
like to set the record straight for the
people who are concerned about Gino's
608
00:38:08,450 --> 00:38:09,450
demise.
609
00:38:09,770 --> 00:38:15,830
I wanted you to hear first what he had
to say about him and about everything.
610
00:38:15,850 --> 00:38:17,310
Thank you very much. I'm sorry.
611
00:38:17,570 --> 00:38:18,570
It's okay.
612
00:38:20,250 --> 00:38:22,010
When do you wait this long?
613
00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:24,450
32 years.
614
00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:32,200
And, yes, I miss him. I pray for him
every day. I talk to him. She knows
615
00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:34,600
I get up at 4 o 'clock every morning.
616
00:38:35,060 --> 00:38:36,220
She was up this morning?
617
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,100
Yeah. Never been praying for two hours.
618
00:38:40,420 --> 00:38:41,420
Yeah, I do that.
619
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:43,040
Okay, let me know when you're ready.
620
00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:44,900
Okay. I'm ready. Okay.
621
00:38:46,020 --> 00:38:49,420
There's nothing I can gain from this.
I'm only doing this because I don't want
622
00:38:49,420 --> 00:38:52,760
Gina's family to worry one more minute.
If they've been worried for 30 years,
623
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,820
they've worried 29 years and 364 days
too long.
624
00:38:58,030 --> 00:39:02,050
I met Gino through some of the other
people in the group and we got to be
625
00:39:02,050 --> 00:39:08,250
friends. This was the 80s and disco was
popular and the cocaine and drugs were
626
00:39:08,250 --> 00:39:10,130
all just a part of that culture.
627
00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:14,110
And we kind of saw the opportunity to
get involved in selling drugs.
628
00:39:14,370 --> 00:39:17,490
And one of the guys in the group had
cultivated a connection.
629
00:39:17,690 --> 00:39:22,650
He would bring it in and he would give
us each a certain amount of it. And not
630
00:39:22,650 --> 00:39:26,250
many people know that Gino was involved
in this. He was a professional wrestler
631
00:39:26,250 --> 00:39:27,270
and he saw.
632
00:39:27,790 --> 00:39:30,730
I started to make some money, and he
thought it would be a good opportunity
633
00:39:30,730 --> 00:39:33,970
him. He didn't make a lot of money as a
wrestler, and it was basically just a
634
00:39:33,970 --> 00:39:36,970
way for some young guys to make some
money, and it was just something that
635
00:39:36,970 --> 00:39:39,330
everybody was kind of doing in that
period of time.
636
00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:42,890
Do you remember giving a eulogy at
Gino's funeral?
637
00:39:44,210 --> 00:39:45,210
Absolutely.
638
00:39:45,450 --> 00:39:46,730
Did you remember what you said?
639
00:39:47,550 --> 00:39:50,510
I know it was a long time ago. Well, I
mean, I said something like, you know,
640
00:39:50,510 --> 00:39:54,890
wrestling there's good guys and bad
guys, and Gino was a bad guy, but in
641
00:39:54,890 --> 00:39:56,850
Gino was a good guy. You know, that's...
642
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,700
That's kind of what I opened up with, I
remember.
643
00:40:00,060 --> 00:40:07,000
There was no foul play with me. And this
is something you don't know either.
644
00:40:07,060 --> 00:40:08,060
I had a trial.
645
00:40:08,460 --> 00:40:13,600
See, I was selling drugs at the time.
They basically said that I gave Gino the
646
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:19,620
drugs that he died on. You know,
basically, you know, they were talking
647
00:40:19,620 --> 00:40:23,520
dope. You know, it was just fabricated.
And what do you think the circumstances
648
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:24,560
were of his death?
649
00:40:25,549 --> 00:40:30,730
Unfortunately, I felt like Gino started
off recreationally using the drugs, and
650
00:40:30,730 --> 00:40:34,750
I think the drugs got hold of him. And,
of course, we were all super concerned
651
00:40:34,750 --> 00:40:38,030
because we were in a business that we
knew could get us in a lot of trouble,
652
00:40:38,090 --> 00:40:42,390
even though we weren't gangsters. And at
the same time, I don't think we saw a
653
00:40:42,390 --> 00:40:46,970
cop behind every bush like Gino seemed
to do in the last part of his life.
654
00:40:47,580 --> 00:40:51,080
Just knowing Gino, I would imagine that
he probably went to a club and probably
655
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,040
drank a lot of alcohol, and he probably
came back to his apartment, overdosed on
656
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,500
drugs, and died of a combination of
drugs and alcohol.
657
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:04,260
I have misgivings because Gino had this
problem with the drugs and that I should
658
00:41:04,260 --> 00:41:11,180
have recognized it and did an
intervention with him and saved him. I
659
00:41:11,180 --> 00:41:14,820
don't know Gino's family, but I would
speak to them directly and say, do not.
660
00:41:15,210 --> 00:41:18,290
be concerned about anything that
happened to Gino.
661
00:41:18,750 --> 00:41:23,210
It was basically just a situation of his
own doing, unfortunately. I know that's
662
00:41:23,210 --> 00:41:26,970
hard to hear because I know you loved
him and I loved him too, but if you're
663
00:41:26,970 --> 00:41:31,570
concerned about anything, you should put
that at rest because you've worried for
664
00:41:31,570 --> 00:41:34,110
30 years and I can absolutely tell you
there's nothing to worry about.
665
00:41:38,910 --> 00:41:40,510
Can't take those years back.
666
00:41:43,850 --> 00:41:45,250
But I still have my daughter.
667
00:41:47,310 --> 00:41:52,670
And it's just nice to know that we don't
have anything to worry about.
668
00:41:55,130 --> 00:41:56,130
Not anymore.
669
00:41:57,830 --> 00:42:00,250
And I thank you very much for this.
670
00:42:03,730 --> 00:42:06,790
I want to believe that it was a tragic
accident.
671
00:42:07,690 --> 00:42:10,070
I want to believe that...
672
00:42:13,550 --> 00:42:18,030
Somehow, someway, he made a mistake.
673
00:42:19,110 --> 00:42:20,250
That's what I want to believe.
674
00:42:21,230 --> 00:42:23,670
I'm the type of person I can forgive
anybody.
675
00:42:24,770 --> 00:42:25,770
You know?
676
00:42:26,370 --> 00:42:28,270
Yes, I forgive John Royal.
677
00:42:29,650 --> 00:42:35,090
I forgive anybody that I thought the
wrong way, but I didn't know any
678
00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:37,990
Had nobody tell me outright.
679
00:42:40,310 --> 00:42:44,590
Watching my grandma, she's lived a sad
life. I mean, she's gone through things
680
00:42:44,590 --> 00:42:47,390
and lived through things that no mother
should ever have to.
681
00:42:47,950 --> 00:42:51,730
And sometimes you look at her and you
think, wow, you know, you can't believe
682
00:42:51,730 --> 00:42:54,450
that she walked that walk and that she's
still smiling today.
683
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:58,890
But she is, you know, and that's, I
think, the piece of life that goes on.
684
00:42:59,930 --> 00:43:03,370
But now I know there's nothing to be
afraid of.
685
00:43:03,570 --> 00:43:04,570
Nothing.
686
00:43:05,130 --> 00:43:06,450
I feel so good.
687
00:43:07,470 --> 00:43:13,990
I could even have a margarita. The
legacy of Gino Hornadis, unfortunately,
688
00:43:14,350 --> 00:43:18,510
he wasn't around long enough to create
one of those. I would like to see him
689
00:43:18,510 --> 00:43:20,410
Gino into the Hall of Fame.
690
00:43:21,210 --> 00:43:22,790
I think Gino was that good.
691
00:43:23,830 --> 00:43:26,550
I want him to be remembered for the
person that he was.
692
00:43:28,810 --> 00:43:32,010
And he made me, as his mother, very,
very proud.
693
00:43:32,490 --> 00:43:35,310
I hear a lot that I look like my dad.
694
00:43:35,710 --> 00:43:39,350
I mean, that they look like your dad,
talk like your dad.
695
00:43:39,690 --> 00:43:44,490
It's smooth sailing from here on out. I
have five children. I have two girls and
696
00:43:44,490 --> 00:43:45,169
three boys.
697
00:43:45,170 --> 00:43:50,230
And you see little pieces of each of
them in him through those videos. That's
698
00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:51,230
what's cool to watch.
699
00:43:51,250 --> 00:43:58,130
With you guys here and doing this, it's
kind of like I finally get my peace
700
00:43:58,130 --> 00:43:59,130
at heart.
701
00:43:59,630 --> 00:44:01,010
And I thank you for that.
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