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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,300 We had scheduled a bout with Gino Hernandez. 2 00:00:08,820 --> 00:00:13,020 However, we've reached a milestone, a sad moment in world -class championship 3 00:00:13,020 --> 00:00:16,140 wrestling. Gino Hernandez is dead. 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:21,740 On February the 4th, 1986, the professional wrestling world was in 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,820 28 -year -old wrestler Gino Hernandez was dead. 6 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,680 The popular wrestling star's badly decomposed body was discovered late last 7 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,000 night at his home in Highland Park. 8 00:00:32,350 --> 00:00:36,750 He had apparently been dead for several days. So a lot of people, when Gino 9 00:00:36,750 --> 00:00:38,870 died, they know exactly what happened. 10 00:00:39,090 --> 00:00:41,430 And I'm listening to the person telling the story, and it's not even close to 11 00:00:41,430 --> 00:00:42,990 true. Because I live the story. 12 00:00:43,390 --> 00:00:45,830 Dallas police say Hernandez might have been murdered. 13 00:00:46,070 --> 00:00:50,150 The rumor grows, the story grows, and it gets more grandiose as it grows. 14 00:00:50,710 --> 00:00:54,370 At the time of Gino's death, Gino was already a major talent. 15 00:00:54,650 --> 00:00:56,950 He was caught up in a very fast life. 16 00:00:57,410 --> 00:01:00,830 And as a result of that, he paid. And he paid. 17 00:01:01,370 --> 00:01:02,370 with his life. 18 00:01:02,510 --> 00:01:07,130 Well, in all respect to Gino Hernandez, I think the Gino Hernandez you saw in 19 00:01:07,130 --> 00:01:11,890 the ring was very much like the Gino Hernandez outside the ring. And he was 20 00:01:11,890 --> 00:01:16,430 who typically did everything his way. As a mother, I've got a lot of questions 21 00:01:16,430 --> 00:01:20,190 that nobody has ever, ever answered me. 22 00:01:21,290 --> 00:01:24,250 Many believe that Gino's death was a tragic accident. 23 00:01:24,670 --> 00:01:29,230 But for over 30 years, family members and wrestlers have believed it to be 24 00:01:29,230 --> 00:01:34,380 murder. Well, I think there are a lot of rumors in wrestling, and it just comes 25 00:01:34,380 --> 00:01:37,800 from us being able to tell a story, man. We're trying to figure out the inside 26 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:38,860 scoop on everything. 27 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:45,580 The only people that know what really happened to Gino was whoever was there. 28 00:01:45,860 --> 00:01:49,660 A lot has been taken away from me, and God has blessed me to let me stay here 29 00:01:49,660 --> 00:01:52,100 this long and say this, finally. 30 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:55,880 I think my son was murdered. 31 00:01:56,660 --> 00:01:57,780 I don't think it. 32 00:01:58,380 --> 00:01:59,660 I almost know it. 33 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,360 In this episode, we put to rest decades of rumors and investigate one of 34 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,000 wrestling's darkest mysteries. 35 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,280 Beautiful pictures, beautiful memories with our beautiful family. 36 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,900 He had a wonderful personality. 37 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,400 He was a good son. 38 00:02:25,780 --> 00:02:27,260 He was a good father. 39 00:02:28,490 --> 00:02:31,970 And I want everybody to remember him as a good man. 40 00:02:32,250 --> 00:02:36,830 I think the hardest thing for me was when he became a bad guy. And as a child 41 00:02:36,830 --> 00:02:42,310 the wrestling matches, like, people throwing pennies at us. All these girls 42 00:02:42,310 --> 00:02:46,090 coming up to the ring saying, sign it. And he'd, like, rip it and throw it. And 43 00:02:46,090 --> 00:02:47,890 I was like a little girl. I was like, oh, no. 44 00:02:48,610 --> 00:02:49,790 That's a bad guy. 45 00:02:50,330 --> 00:02:53,050 As I say in the ring, Gino was evil. 46 00:02:53,350 --> 00:02:56,830 Don't attempt to adjust your sensor. What you see is real. The most gorgeous 47 00:02:56,830 --> 00:02:58,050 human being on this earth. 48 00:02:58,350 --> 00:02:59,350 He had it. 49 00:02:59,650 --> 00:03:00,650 He was special. 50 00:03:01,430 --> 00:03:04,250 He was the type of guy that could have fit right in with a Randy Macho Man 51 00:03:04,250 --> 00:03:07,170 Savage or some of those guys. So who knows where Gino would have went. 52 00:03:07,450 --> 00:03:11,230 You can't buy it. You can't steal it. You can't borrow it. 53 00:03:11,470 --> 00:03:13,190 You got it or you don't. 54 00:03:13,450 --> 00:03:14,530 It's called charisma. 55 00:03:14,750 --> 00:03:15,750 And he had charisma. 56 00:03:16,030 --> 00:03:17,230 You had tag matches. 57 00:03:18,710 --> 00:03:21,070 Yeah. Who's the wrestler that you hate the most? 58 00:03:21,390 --> 00:03:22,650 Gino! Gino! 59 00:03:24,110 --> 00:03:26,490 cocky, arrogant, good -looking, talented. 60 00:03:26,910 --> 00:03:31,110 If you were to see Gino, you would have thought he was connected or he was a 61 00:03:31,110 --> 00:03:32,630 celebrity of some type. 62 00:03:32,830 --> 00:03:35,010 He always just looked like money. 63 00:03:35,310 --> 00:03:41,030 He was all about the finest suits, the finest custom -made shirts, the rings 64 00:03:41,030 --> 00:03:45,110 the watches. You name it, that was Gino. And it wasn't a gimmick. 65 00:03:45,430 --> 00:03:50,190 That was him. If he wanted to, he could take that room and have everybody in 66 00:03:50,190 --> 00:03:51,370 that room hating his guts. 67 00:03:51,850 --> 00:03:53,810 and wanting to kill them in real life. 68 00:03:54,190 --> 00:03:59,510 I overcome any obstacle in my life, and especially some hormone -imbound female 69 00:03:59,510 --> 00:04:03,070 that tries to stick her nose in a man's business. 70 00:04:03,510 --> 00:04:04,510 Thank you, Tom. 71 00:04:05,770 --> 00:04:10,210 And it's easy to hate somebody who's good -looking, who's got money or 72 00:04:10,430 --> 00:04:14,230 and has a pretty girl on the side, and must be nice. 73 00:04:14,990 --> 00:04:17,250 Full head of hair, got all that shit, you know. 74 00:04:17,550 --> 00:04:21,149 I'd like to show you and the people pictures, no other. 75 00:04:21,410 --> 00:04:26,650 Farrah Fawcett, I think they had a few dates. Who does she choose to be with? 76 00:04:26,650 --> 00:04:29,570 wife was on the front row, and he said some of the things he would say to them. 77 00:04:29,610 --> 00:04:32,390 I don't know that I wouldn't be waiting outside to knock him out. It almost came 78 00:04:32,390 --> 00:04:33,390 natural for me. 79 00:04:33,410 --> 00:04:37,610 One night, Geno had said something, and he insulted to the point this big cowboy 80 00:04:37,610 --> 00:04:41,010 guy was getting up. He was headed to the ring, and the police stopped him. 81 00:04:41,310 --> 00:04:44,810 Well, Geno starts saying, let him go, let him go, let him come in here, to the 82 00:04:44,810 --> 00:04:46,610 point he convinced the police to let him go. 83 00:04:47,260 --> 00:04:50,400 And then Gino's telling me, stop him, stop him. He's whispering in the back of 84 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:51,119 my ear. 85 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,780 But I told him in the dressing room, I said, you bit that off, you chew it. 86 00:04:54,480 --> 00:05:01,080 David Manning, I was the referee and promoter and booker for world -class 87 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,000 championship wrestling from 77, 78, till around 89. 88 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,040 Probably I'd been in the business for about three, four years, five years, 89 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,040 Gino started coming in. 90 00:05:11,220 --> 00:05:13,380 At that time, I was a referee and he was a wrestler. 91 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:16,520 The greatest thing about Gino being a heel was, one, the microphone. 92 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,520 Gino is one of the few pieces of talent. I'd actually put Gino in the category 93 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:25,560 of a Ric Flair, a Jim Cornette, Michael Hayes, the people that you just hand 94 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:30,560 them a mic and they can do it. Tonight's the night. I told you I brought out the 95 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:36,940 $60 ,000 limo. Tonight, the world junior heavyweight champion. Not bad for a kid 96 00:05:36,940 --> 00:05:38,500 from Spring Branch High, huh? 97 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:43,580 You know, he was real close with the promoter Paul Bosch in Houston. Where 98 00:05:43,580 --> 00:05:45,120 got his big, big break was Houston. 99 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:46,620 Gorgeous Gino. 100 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:53,500 I remember meeting Gino when he had to be 17, 18 years old. Good -looking guy, 101 00:05:53,580 --> 00:05:57,120 you know, good body and everything, and had chicks all over him. Full of 102 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:03,480 himself, conceited. I was just a kid, so he treated me like a kid at 103 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:04,540 the time. 104 00:06:04,940 --> 00:06:07,460 I was a professional model at one time. 105 00:06:08,620 --> 00:06:12,860 Most of the time, I just took care of my daughter and my son, Gino. I was a 106 00:06:12,860 --> 00:06:13,860 single parent. 107 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,500 Do you prefer to call him Charles or Gino? 108 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:21,620 No, Gino. Well, if you were asked, would you rather use the name Charles or 109 00:06:21,620 --> 00:06:28,200 Gino? Because Gino always referred to himself as Gorgeous Gino. Gorgeous Gino 110 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:29,200 Hernandez. 111 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,460 G -G with two Gs on the back of his jacket. 112 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,360 He had Lewis's name. 113 00:06:35,820 --> 00:06:41,480 Gino sometimes would kind of prance around, brag that his dad was Luis 114 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,540 Hernandez, you know. Did they play wrestle at all in the house and stuff? 115 00:06:45,860 --> 00:06:46,860 Lord, yes. 116 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,320 From morning to night. 117 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,160 Well, I've always been a fan of wrestling all my life, and my father was 118 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,340 wrestler, and he died when I was 12 years old. 119 00:06:57,950 --> 00:07:02,070 And I began to start training for wrestling from the time I was in high 120 00:07:02,130 --> 00:07:06,590 and I turned professional at the age of 17 right out of high school. 121 00:07:07,010 --> 00:07:11,790 When he got into the ring, it was like he had been wrestling for years. 122 00:07:12,570 --> 00:07:16,190 He was flying off the rope, and I'm going, where did he learn that from? 123 00:07:16,570 --> 00:07:20,350 He said, my dad did it for me. I was wearing his shoes. 124 00:07:21,270 --> 00:07:23,250 He said he did everything for me. 125 00:07:24,290 --> 00:07:26,550 And, of course, I had to cry when he told me that. 126 00:07:26,990 --> 00:07:32,030 We were married very young. We were both 18, and we had our first child. That 127 00:07:32,030 --> 00:07:33,030 started our family. 128 00:07:33,270 --> 00:07:38,850 I'm Janice Gillespie, and I grew up in Houston, Texas, and that is where I met 129 00:07:38,850 --> 00:07:41,510 Charles Wolfe, who you might know as Gina Hernandez. 130 00:07:42,830 --> 00:07:46,750 After we were married, he kept his life very separate. So he had a professional 131 00:07:46,750 --> 00:07:50,490 life, and he'd work out in the morning, and then he'd have a workout in the 132 00:07:50,490 --> 00:07:53,930 afternoon, and it really consumed most of his day. 133 00:07:56,170 --> 00:08:00,790 His family. There was really very little mixing outside of just family. 134 00:08:01,290 --> 00:08:07,730 It was the soft side of him. It was really a pushover. He loved his children 135 00:08:07,730 --> 00:08:09,010 very, very much. 136 00:08:09,270 --> 00:08:12,450 Everybody knows I'm the man of the hour, the man with the power. Too sweet to be 137 00:08:12,450 --> 00:08:17,090 sour. You know, going back and, like, watching the footage and hearing him 138 00:08:17,950 --> 00:08:21,390 227 pounds of twisted steel and sex appeal. 139 00:08:21,670 --> 00:08:23,650 It's like a voice I always knew. 140 00:08:23,930 --> 00:08:25,530 Really, everywhere we went. 141 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,200 People knew he was Gino. 142 00:08:28,500 --> 00:08:33,360 He would get into his persona, his character, especially when he became a 143 00:08:33,700 --> 00:08:39,440 He would really be very, very intimidating. It made me very 144 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,600 around him when you would see him like that. 145 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:46,980 Has there been times in your life where your wrestling persona has bled into 146 00:08:46,980 --> 00:08:47,819 your real life? 147 00:08:47,820 --> 00:08:51,060 Jake Roberts never had a problem in his life. He's a bad guy. 148 00:08:52,460 --> 00:08:55,280 about anybody, and he's going to do what he pleases, and he's going to go on 149 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:55,859 with life. 150 00:08:55,860 --> 00:08:57,440 And he will f*** you up. 151 00:08:58,700 --> 00:09:02,080 Aurelian Smith, on the other hand, is a human being, man, that cares about other 152 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,080 people. 153 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,960 He's made some mistakes. 154 00:09:05,420 --> 00:09:07,360 He's a recovering alcoholic addict. 155 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,120 So, yeah, that guy has problems. 156 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,600 Jake Snake doesn't. For people to get mad at me for when I get on TV and say 157 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,480 the latest and I'm the greatest and I'm so fine that I'm divine, for people to 158 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,100 say I'm conceited, I don't understand it. 159 00:09:20,380 --> 00:09:23,320 He lived his gimmick in the ring, and he lived it out of the ring. We're into 160 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,840 sports cars, we're into fast cars, faster women, and fast life. 161 00:09:27,100 --> 00:09:31,480 He lived it, he ate it, and he slept it. He loved every minute, and he could 162 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,020 bring that on just like that. 163 00:09:33,300 --> 00:09:37,240 And I used to tell him, you can drop that now, I know who you are. 164 00:09:38,700 --> 00:09:42,600 I know that he and Chris had a very successful tag team, a dynamic duo. 165 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,540 Chris Adams was, he was a good guy. He could be a good friend as long as 166 00:09:47,540 --> 00:09:48,439 wasn't involved. 167 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:49,680 They were a great team. 168 00:09:50,010 --> 00:09:51,010 We got the looks. 169 00:09:51,290 --> 00:09:52,650 We got the ability. 170 00:09:52,970 --> 00:09:56,930 We got the money. We got the women. We got the build. 171 00:09:57,150 --> 00:10:01,290 And from now on, we are number one. We're bad. We're real bad. 172 00:10:01,530 --> 00:10:03,030 We're bad to the bone. 173 00:10:03,230 --> 00:10:04,230 All right. 174 00:10:04,490 --> 00:10:08,150 They're bad to the bone. Well, there they go. Chris Adams and Gino Hernandez. 175 00:10:08,450 --> 00:10:09,450 See you guys. 176 00:10:10,490 --> 00:10:17,450 Gino's social life and his life outside of wrestling was just as flamboyant 177 00:10:17,450 --> 00:10:18,610 as... 178 00:10:19,959 --> 00:10:22,580 inside the Coliseum when Geno came to perform. 179 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,980 As a matter of fact, one of the highlighted matches at one of the 180 00:10:25,980 --> 00:10:27,420 we ever had was at the Cotton Bowl. 181 00:10:27,620 --> 00:10:34,020 It's all come down to the Cotton Bowl tomorrow at 3 p .m. And it was Geno and 182 00:10:34,020 --> 00:10:38,820 Chris Adams against Kevin and Kerry, a hair match. 183 00:10:39,100 --> 00:10:43,460 Chris and Geno both had just gorgeous hair down, you know, the whole thing, 184 00:10:43,460 --> 00:10:47,140 sculptured look. And the Bonnards both had long hair, so people weren't sure 185 00:10:47,140 --> 00:10:48,140 what was going to happen here. 186 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,500 And he would get in that ring, and he just owned the crowd. He knew exactly 187 00:10:52,500 --> 00:10:55,920 he was doing. I've seen a lot of wrestlers in my life, and I've seen a 188 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:00,020 guys try to do what Geno did, and he was such an artist. 189 00:11:01,260 --> 00:11:05,720 And sure enough, Geno and Chris Lawson, I remember they would hold him in those 190 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,680 seats, and they brought the razors out. The crowd was going crazy. They were 191 00:11:08,680 --> 00:11:11,040 cheering. They were so happy. These guys were fixing to lose their hair. 192 00:11:11,380 --> 00:11:15,120 And they had the perfect reaction, you know, and it just elevated the feud. 193 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:23,720 There was a nightclub in Houston called Judges that Gino frequented quite a bit. 194 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:28,240 That was the place to go on Friday night after the matches and party all night 195 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,440 long. My name is Jeannie Williams. 196 00:11:30,740 --> 00:11:37,440 In 1985, Chris asked me to move to Dallas, and he said, you live next door 197 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:38,700 friend Gino Hernandez. 198 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,160 So Gino and I were neighbors. 199 00:11:41,580 --> 00:11:45,360 Gino was front and center, man. It wasn't like it was a secret that Gino 200 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:50,520 drugs, from smoking dope to cocaine and uppers and downers. It was the 70s and 201 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:56,160 80s, and we all did. I never saw Gino out of control on drugs. 202 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:58,400 But Gino liked to party and have a good time. 203 00:11:58,620 --> 00:12:03,400 Gino comes knocking on the door. His eyes are huge, and he's like, touch my 204 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,340 head, oh my God, my hair, because they just had their hair shaved. And so we 205 00:12:07,340 --> 00:12:09,200 decided we'd go to a nightclub. 206 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:15,980 We get in the car and he's going about 100 miles an hour and he has this tiny 207 00:12:15,980 --> 00:12:19,980 piece of paper and he says, just take this. 208 00:12:21,220 --> 00:12:26,860 We get to the club and then everybody's just, everything's going all strange and 209 00:12:26,860 --> 00:12:29,040 Gino is laughing. 210 00:12:29,660 --> 00:12:34,020 I want to go to the bathroom and as I was walking it was like my feet were 211 00:12:34,020 --> 00:12:39,280 in clouds and I come to find out afterwards that Gino had I 212 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:45,900 was in Las Vegas one time, and 213 00:12:45,900 --> 00:12:51,800 Gino had a friend with him. This particular gentleman had a plane. They 214 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:57,540 rented the whole top suite floor of the hotel there, just partying for like 215 00:12:57,540 --> 00:12:58,459 three days. 216 00:12:58,460 --> 00:13:01,780 But I knew a lot of those guys were, I don't know if they were furnishing it 217 00:13:01,780 --> 00:13:06,720 to him, but from that time on after Las Vegas, it was just a slowly progression. 218 00:13:07,300 --> 00:13:08,300 Gino just... 219 00:13:08,380 --> 00:13:12,420 He ran with a pretty tough crowd at Houston. You know, if you hang around 220 00:13:12,420 --> 00:13:13,700 trouble, you're going to get trouble. 221 00:13:14,460 --> 00:13:18,000 It's like I always say, getting into the wrestling is like getting into the mob. 222 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,160 Once you're in, you're in. 223 00:13:19,340 --> 00:13:20,680 It can go the other way, too. 224 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:22,900 So you've got to watch who you hang out with. 225 00:13:27,940 --> 00:13:32,240 Unknown to his family, Geno had been running with a fast and dangerous crowd. 226 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,220 But the party wouldn't last much longer. 227 00:13:35,710 --> 00:13:38,510 Do you know or have you heard about some of those people that he was hanging 228 00:13:38,510 --> 00:13:39,750 around, those heavier folks? 229 00:13:40,350 --> 00:13:45,770 I just heard it was like, no, I don't know. I'm going to say, I don't know. 230 00:13:48,110 --> 00:13:51,030 What I said is what it was. 231 00:13:51,870 --> 00:13:57,230 I heard the people that you didn't mess with that had power in the city of 232 00:13:57,230 --> 00:14:01,650 Houston and Dallas, and there's certainly those kind of people out 233 00:14:02,350 --> 00:14:04,130 Well, when our children were young, we divorced. 234 00:14:04,890 --> 00:14:08,270 I just didn't feel so safe about some of the people he might be hanging out 235 00:14:08,270 --> 00:14:09,690 with, things I was hearing. 236 00:14:09,930 --> 00:14:15,290 These were strong, powerful people within the city that might not have 237 00:14:15,290 --> 00:14:16,570 certain things getting out. 238 00:14:17,330 --> 00:14:23,370 There was just a side of him and people he ran with that I felt dangerous. 239 00:14:25,170 --> 00:14:30,350 By 1986, there was a shift in the dynamic duo's storyline. 240 00:14:30,650 --> 00:14:33,450 We saw Chris and Gino turn against each other. 241 00:14:34,230 --> 00:14:36,070 igniting a vicious robbery. 242 00:14:39,870 --> 00:14:40,870 Yeah, 243 00:14:42,510 --> 00:14:47,850 one of Geno's last matches was he and Chris, we did a gimmick where, I think 244 00:14:47,850 --> 00:14:50,890 it's Nair, it was like, you know, girls get it to get rid of hair. 245 00:14:51,750 --> 00:14:55,150 Geno sprayed it in Chris's eyes, and for weeks, Chris wore this thing he 246 00:14:55,150 --> 00:14:57,190 couldn't see and stuff like this. 247 00:14:58,410 --> 00:15:01,150 Whatever the gimmick was in the ring, that was the gimmick out of the ring. 248 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,240 And so even around in the public, Chris would, you know, like he couldn't hardly 249 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:10,260 see. And his wife, Toni, would lead him around and bumping into chairs. And 250 00:15:10,260 --> 00:15:13,920 that's what I really liked about that. Whatever happened, you took it with you. 251 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,500 Do you remember the last time you saw him? Can you tell me about that? 252 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,940 Super Bowl Sunday, 1986. 253 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,300 He was in a hurry, always in a hurry. 254 00:15:26,740 --> 00:15:30,200 Did he seem like he was worried about anything to you at that time? Mm -hmm. 255 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,200 you talk about that? 256 00:15:32,319 --> 00:15:36,900 It was very fidgety and nervous when he came in. 257 00:15:38,500 --> 00:15:40,620 Say what you got to say and leave. 258 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:46,860 She knew something was going on because he had come home to her home and he had 259 00:15:46,860 --> 00:15:53,420 something and he put it somewhere in her home and he was acting nervous 260 00:15:53,420 --> 00:15:58,100 and antsy and felt like something might happen to him and who it was. 261 00:15:58,650 --> 00:16:02,170 I don't think she knew who he was afraid of or who he was worried about. 262 00:16:02,630 --> 00:16:05,030 Do you know what he hid in her house? 263 00:16:05,790 --> 00:16:07,670 No. Was he nervous? 264 00:16:08,350 --> 00:16:09,810 Yeah, real nervous. 265 00:16:10,770 --> 00:16:14,490 And Gina wasn't afraid of anything. But there's certain things you can't dodge. 266 00:16:15,310 --> 00:16:17,990 If somebody wants to get you, they'll get you. 267 00:16:20,210 --> 00:16:24,350 He came to the matches one night, and he came running in my office, and he was 268 00:16:24,350 --> 00:16:25,350 telling me this story. 269 00:16:25,710 --> 00:16:28,330 And he said, you wouldn't believe it, Dave, you wouldn't believe it. And he 270 00:16:28,330 --> 00:16:30,970 said, I'm driving and I look in the back and I can see someone sitting in the 271 00:16:30,970 --> 00:16:34,310 back. And he said, I didn't know what to do. And he said, so I'm watching to see 272 00:16:34,310 --> 00:16:37,050 if they're going to try to stab me or whatever. And he said, so all of a 273 00:16:37,050 --> 00:16:40,670 I just slammed on the brakes and then they jumped out the back and they ran 274 00:16:40,750 --> 00:16:42,050 And he said, I think they were going to kill me. 275 00:16:42,430 --> 00:16:44,870 He's like, I need a gun. 276 00:16:45,350 --> 00:16:47,230 I could just tell he was scared to death. 277 00:16:47,850 --> 00:16:48,850 And so. 278 00:16:49,210 --> 00:16:52,050 I said, no, I don't have a gun with me, Gino. I said, but I think you're okay. I 279 00:16:52,050 --> 00:16:53,810 think, you know, maybe you just saw something. 280 00:16:54,150 --> 00:16:58,050 And he was like, no, no, no, they're following me. I'm afraid something's 281 00:16:58,050 --> 00:17:00,370 to happen to me. You know, I've got to get a gun. I've got to get a gun. 282 00:17:00,670 --> 00:17:05,910 He was adamant someone was sitting in the back seat of his car, and he got a 283 00:17:05,910 --> 00:17:07,369 glimpse of him through his rearview mirror. 284 00:17:09,150 --> 00:17:12,250 Maybe Gino was telling me the truth all these times, that someone was either 285 00:17:12,250 --> 00:17:15,869 stalking him or someone was after him or someone was going to kill him. 286 00:17:16,290 --> 00:17:18,230 That night was the last night I saw Gino. 287 00:17:19,630 --> 00:17:24,410 The last time I saw Gino live, he said, hey, kiddo, look what I got here. And he 288 00:17:24,410 --> 00:17:27,490 had a white box, and he said it was a peach pie. 289 00:17:27,950 --> 00:17:33,830 And he said he was going out, but if I wanted to stop by the next day, come and 290 00:17:33,830 --> 00:17:35,270 have a slice. It's delicious. 291 00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:39,910 On my birthday, February the 5th, 1986, 292 00:17:40,710 --> 00:17:47,190 Walter called me. He was Gino's manager. He did a lot of Gino's booking. 293 00:17:48,370 --> 00:17:51,630 and he said, Patrice, have you heard from Gino? 294 00:17:52,190 --> 00:17:57,390 I said, no, but why? He said, well, I need to talk to him. I haven't heard 295 00:17:57,390 --> 00:18:00,130 him, but today's my birthday, and I know he'll be calling me. 296 00:18:01,230 --> 00:18:02,670 I'll tell him to give you a call. 297 00:18:03,030 --> 00:18:06,790 The next day, I saw Gino's car parked. 298 00:18:07,390 --> 00:18:12,890 I noticed the car was sort of out of alignment. The wheels were strange. 299 00:18:13,250 --> 00:18:14,750 Like, he parked it really quick. 300 00:18:15,010 --> 00:18:16,530 He missed a show up in Oklahoma. 301 00:18:17,610 --> 00:18:21,310 And it wasn't like him. But I didn't think anything about it. And then we 302 00:18:21,310 --> 00:18:24,710 couldn't reach him. We tried to get a hold of Gino. We couldn't reach him. 303 00:18:25,430 --> 00:18:29,830 The next day, the car was still the same position. 304 00:18:30,630 --> 00:18:37,130 I'm going to go and check on him and knock on his door. And I can't really 305 00:18:37,130 --> 00:18:41,910 good vision, but I did see a pie, the pie. 306 00:18:43,550 --> 00:18:47,230 And then I heard that, you know, he didn't show up in Houston, which was 307 00:18:47,230 --> 00:18:48,230 definitely unusual. 308 00:18:48,310 --> 00:18:52,970 When I went to the office on Monday and I hadn't heard from Gino, I said, we got 309 00:18:52,970 --> 00:18:56,290 a problem. One of the guys that refereed for us was named Rick Hazard. 310 00:18:56,810 --> 00:19:00,590 And I said, Rick, why don't you go over to Gino's apartment and see if his car 311 00:19:00,590 --> 00:19:01,309 is here? 312 00:19:01,310 --> 00:19:04,090 And so he called me and he said, well, the car is here, but no one's answering 313 00:19:04,090 --> 00:19:05,090 the door. 314 00:19:05,450 --> 00:19:08,810 And I said, why don't you see if you can get over the wall and just peek in? 315 00:19:09,650 --> 00:19:11,510 And sure enough, Rick got over the wall. 316 00:19:12,060 --> 00:19:15,220 The way the bed was laying, at first he couldn't see anything. He just happened 317 00:19:15,220 --> 00:19:19,360 to glance down, and where the bed ended, he could see part of the body hanging 318 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:20,360 out. 319 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,540 At that point, they called the police. The cops said he had been laying there, 320 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,700 they estimated, about four to five days. 321 00:19:30,220 --> 00:19:34,960 Walter took some rest there and went to the condo. They got in because Walter 322 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,120 was the only one they had in key. 323 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,620 There was a gun on the scene. So I don't know where Gino got the gun, but there 324 00:19:40,620 --> 00:19:42,360 was a gun on the scene where they found him. 325 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:47,220 I'm standing outside Chris's apartment, actually, and they're bringing out his 326 00:19:47,220 --> 00:19:53,220 body in a body bag. It's just like something you're in denial. 327 00:19:54,420 --> 00:20:00,960 Probably about, I'd say, a very short span of time, Walter calls me again. 328 00:20:02,220 --> 00:20:05,760 And he said, Patrice is... 329 00:20:06,010 --> 00:20:07,010 It's Walter. 330 00:20:07,890 --> 00:20:12,810 And I said, did Gino get in touch with you? I said, he didn't call me, but have 331 00:20:12,810 --> 00:20:15,870 you found him? He said, yeah. 332 00:20:17,850 --> 00:20:20,590 I'm standing here in his condo. 333 00:20:21,270 --> 00:20:22,350 I said, well, is he okay? 334 00:20:22,590 --> 00:20:24,070 He said, he's dead. 335 00:20:26,630 --> 00:20:27,630 And he hung up. 336 00:20:30,890 --> 00:20:32,850 And I just started screaming. 337 00:20:41,070 --> 00:20:43,470 Death came to Gino Hernandez. 338 00:20:44,390 --> 00:20:48,850 Wrestling fans were shocked at the sudden end to one of the brightest 339 00:20:48,850 --> 00:20:49,809 the game. 340 00:20:49,810 --> 00:20:55,250 His friends were saddened by an irreplaceable loss of a vibrant young 341 00:20:55,730 --> 00:21:00,510 To his mother and sister, it was a tragedy of indescribable magnitude. 342 00:21:02,250 --> 00:21:07,930 Police arrived at the home of wrestler Gino Hernandez in February of 1986 and 343 00:21:07,930 --> 00:21:09,170 discovered his dead body. 344 00:21:09,820 --> 00:21:14,480 It was so decomposed that the exact cause of death could not be determined. 345 00:21:14,860 --> 00:21:19,420 A loaded pistol was found next to his right hand, and police found no sign of 346 00:21:19,420 --> 00:21:21,740 drugs or paraphernalia in the condo. 347 00:21:23,980 --> 00:21:27,960 Could you walk us through? You were at his home, and you heard a knock on the 348 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,600 door. Yeah, I was grieving. 349 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,660 Mika and I was grieving. 350 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,920 And he just knocked on the door, and he said, 351 00:21:35,710 --> 00:21:40,190 I would like to come in and discuss the funeral. Well, of course I let him in. 352 00:21:41,110 --> 00:21:42,210 Gino knew him. 353 00:21:42,450 --> 00:21:44,370 Gino went places with him. 354 00:21:46,050 --> 00:21:47,510 But I really didn't know him. 355 00:21:48,690 --> 00:21:55,470 We're both sitting facing each other, sitting on the floor, and I can 356 00:21:55,470 --> 00:22:01,050 he says to me, Gino owed me a lot of money, 357 00:22:01,150 --> 00:22:04,250 but just don't you worry about it. 358 00:22:05,629 --> 00:22:07,190 Because I'm going to pay for his funeral. 359 00:22:08,050 --> 00:22:11,250 I was sitting there, and I know how I felt looking at him. 360 00:22:12,030 --> 00:22:13,690 I was scared to death. 361 00:22:15,230 --> 00:22:18,150 Did what he said at the time feel like it was a threat? 362 00:22:18,570 --> 00:22:22,450 Yeah. Well, it's just the tone of voice and the way somebody looks at you when 363 00:22:22,450 --> 00:22:26,770 they stick their finger in you, and they lean in to you like, do you hear me? 364 00:22:27,870 --> 00:22:31,790 No remorse, no empathy, nothing. 365 00:22:33,410 --> 00:22:34,410 Nothing. 366 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:41,560 I'm an intelligent woman, and I can read a person pretty doggone well eye -to 367 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,419 -eye contact. 368 00:22:42,420 --> 00:22:43,500 That tells you a lot. 369 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:53,660 You know, I remember walking into the funeral. 370 00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:57,760 Went up, paid our respects. 371 00:22:58,740 --> 00:23:00,780 There was a platinum casket. 372 00:23:04,570 --> 00:23:05,650 It was closed casket. 373 00:23:06,870 --> 00:23:08,130 So many people. 374 00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:16,270 I dressed the finest I could dress, like a movie 375 00:23:16,270 --> 00:23:20,870 star, because I knew Gina wanted me to look that way. 376 00:23:24,370 --> 00:23:28,790 There were a lot of people that were hurting his mom and his sister. My gosh, 377 00:23:28,810 --> 00:23:30,570 and that was just painful to know they were hurting. 378 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,820 There was a group of men, and Patrice would probably know who they were more 379 00:23:35,820 --> 00:23:39,860 than I would, that took care of all the finances of that funeral, and it was a 380 00:23:39,860 --> 00:23:41,780 very expensive funeral. 381 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:49,220 They do the service at the gravesite, and then they had a bottle of champagne, 382 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,080 they had glasses, and people were pouring champagne. And to you, Gino, 383 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,680 the champagne and breaking champagne glasses, you know, into the casket and 384 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:57,680 toasting Gino. 385 00:23:59,180 --> 00:24:03,060 When you were looking at all of this, it just was surreal to a point. 386 00:24:03,540 --> 00:24:05,980 Almost like an out -of -body experience a little bit. 387 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:13,580 There was a gentleman there that did a eulogy that talked about Gino getting on 388 00:24:13,580 --> 00:24:18,960 planes and going to Vegas and beating up a guy and putting him in a headlock. It 389 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,740 was just weird. 390 00:24:21,460 --> 00:24:23,000 It was totally off. 391 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,280 And it was almost like people going, who the hell is this guy? 392 00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:32,480 and to some of us that hadn't been around for a while, we just thought it 393 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,180 you know, a new friend or whatever. 394 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,320 We had no clue. 395 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:43,260 At his funeral, there was a lot of rich people. You might assume drug dealing 396 00:24:43,260 --> 00:24:44,320 is going on. 397 00:24:44,620 --> 00:24:50,220 And people made comments like, do you know who that is? And I had no clue who 398 00:24:50,220 --> 00:24:53,200 is. If you were to put him in a line today, I wouldn't know who it is. 399 00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:56,860 But people talking about, oh, well, he's, he's, uh... 400 00:24:57,580 --> 00:24:59,040 He's wanted by the authority show. 401 00:24:59,380 --> 00:25:00,860 I don't know who the hell he is. 402 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,820 Who was the guy that gave the eulogy? 403 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,100 It was John Royal. 404 00:25:09,460 --> 00:25:12,780 Did you know any of the activity that John Royal was involved in at all? 405 00:25:13,540 --> 00:25:16,080 I just heard that he was a drug dealer. 406 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,780 I mean, I didn't know anything about the man, period. 407 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,480 As far as I know right now, he's in prison. 408 00:25:26,540 --> 00:25:30,500 I would have done just pretty much anything then just to make sure my 409 00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:32,240 was safe and I was too. 410 00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:35,500 And that's the way it's been all these years. 411 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,340 I didn't talk to anybody until I talked to you guys. 412 00:25:46,580 --> 00:25:51,880 As the Hernandez family mourned Gino's mysterious death, many questions 413 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,600 unanswered. Rumors began to fly throughout the resting community. 414 00:25:56,190 --> 00:25:57,190 and beyond. 415 00:25:57,850 --> 00:26:02,810 So a lot of people, when Gino died, were immediately telling the story. Here's 416 00:26:02,810 --> 00:26:03,509 what happened. 417 00:26:03,510 --> 00:26:07,290 Andre the Giant told us that he knew for a fact that Gino had been shot in the 418 00:26:07,290 --> 00:26:08,290 head. 419 00:26:08,450 --> 00:26:09,610 And that was not the case. 420 00:26:09,910 --> 00:26:15,970 I heard from somebody that he was close with that he used to take trips down to 421 00:26:15,970 --> 00:26:20,150 Houston, Southwest Airlines, several times a week to go down to Houston for 422 00:26:20,150 --> 00:26:24,870 I don't know. The rumor mill was that he had gambled and that he owed. 423 00:26:25,470 --> 00:26:26,790 Some money on a football game. 424 00:26:27,010 --> 00:26:30,810 And so you got all these different rumors. And with Chris and with Gino, 425 00:26:30,810 --> 00:26:34,670 the conflict going on. Police have received several telephone calls from 426 00:26:34,670 --> 00:26:37,530 concerned fans who say Hernandez might have been murdered. 427 00:26:37,810 --> 00:26:42,110 And immediately it's like, well, Chris did it. Why? The guy blinded him. 428 00:26:42,410 --> 00:26:45,970 Had you ever heard that all the world -class fans called the police saying it 429 00:26:45,970 --> 00:26:46,969 must have been Chris? 430 00:26:46,970 --> 00:26:48,030 I did hear that. 431 00:26:48,290 --> 00:26:52,990 And I think the police actually did contact Chris. 432 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,180 about the murder of Gina. 433 00:26:55,620 --> 00:26:59,560 That goes to show just how believable world -class championship wrestling was. 434 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,960 That somebody would go to the death to think, Jesus, he killed that guy because 435 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:03,960 that guy took his eyesight. 436 00:27:04,260 --> 00:27:06,700 This is a case that we're talking 30 years ago. 437 00:27:07,580 --> 00:27:10,160 And there's been a lot of rumors like this. 438 00:27:10,460 --> 00:27:12,540 None of the family members were ever allowed to see him. 439 00:27:12,860 --> 00:27:17,140 His corpse, his body was just so guarded. 440 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,480 Who was telling you guys that? 441 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,240 Um, I think Walter. 442 00:27:22,910 --> 00:27:26,310 It would just be too shocking because he had been dead for so long that they 443 00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:27,910 didn't want anybody to see him. 444 00:27:28,810 --> 00:27:31,170 I'm pretty meticulous about saving everything. 445 00:27:31,530 --> 00:27:36,570 This is the suitcase that I put everything in after I had collected 446 00:27:36,570 --> 00:27:40,530 he had passed away, anything that I could get my hands on because I never 447 00:27:40,530 --> 00:27:41,509 go in his apartment. 448 00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:47,550 As a mother, I've got a lot of questions that nobody has ever, ever answered me. 449 00:27:48,150 --> 00:27:51,070 I said, well, I'll tell you what, I'll just do my own investigating. 450 00:27:51,930 --> 00:27:57,110 And if I can find out the right person to contact, I'll contact that person and 451 00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:58,110 take care of it myself. 452 00:27:59,370 --> 00:28:01,150 Worry about the consequences later. 453 00:28:01,710 --> 00:28:03,290 And that's exactly what I did. 454 00:28:03,570 --> 00:28:07,310 I think there was foul play in Gino's death only because, one, he was super 455 00:28:07,310 --> 00:28:08,310 paranoid. 456 00:28:08,670 --> 00:28:13,390 When he walked into his apartment, he locked the doors. And he had a deadbolt 457 00:28:13,390 --> 00:28:18,250 the inside. So the deadbolt was not locked from the inside of the apartment. 458 00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:21,410 It never made any sense to me. The deadbolt wasn't on. 459 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,620 And he always locked up. So somebody was there with him. 460 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,600 Well, who was there with him? 461 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,320 And left him alone. 462 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,640 If it would have been me and I would have said, you need to do an autopsy 463 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:34,640 because someone murdered him. 464 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,520 The autopsy report, when they found him and he had been dead for a while, I 465 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,680 asked what happened. 466 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,160 I believe they said that it might be a drug overdose. 467 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:50,130 I remember talking to the coroner and he said that, you know, He had cocaine in 468 00:28:50,130 --> 00:28:52,530 his system, but he had five times the amount. 469 00:28:52,990 --> 00:28:56,010 I believe I was told he had enough that could have killed an elephant. 470 00:28:56,410 --> 00:29:00,270 He had more than just enough to overdose. He had three or four or five 471 00:29:00,270 --> 00:29:02,330 his body that it would take to overdose. 472 00:29:02,690 --> 00:29:07,490 The medical examiner had said that he didn't understand how that much cocaine 473 00:29:07,490 --> 00:29:09,830 could get in someone, you know, be ingested. 474 00:29:10,870 --> 00:29:13,910 It makes you question, you know, what the hell happened. 475 00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:16,730 All top three reports said he was morbidly obese. 476 00:29:17,290 --> 00:29:18,610 It's so that he was Hispanic. 477 00:29:19,030 --> 00:29:23,190 She asked me, she said, now, I'm pretty sure about this because, you know, I did 478 00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:26,270 give birth to him. Was Gino circumcised? 479 00:29:26,490 --> 00:29:27,570 I said, well, he was. 480 00:29:28,150 --> 00:29:31,450 Well, the autopsy report said it was an uncircumcised male. 481 00:29:31,670 --> 00:29:32,950 How did that make you feel? 482 00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:38,850 Well, first of all, is that even really him? If it's not him, I wondered 483 00:29:38,850 --> 00:29:42,530 sometimes, could he have, would he have faked his own death? 484 00:29:43,330 --> 00:29:45,230 When we were married. 485 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,300 There was a comedy sitcom. I don't remember the name of it. The main 486 00:29:50,300 --> 00:29:51,740 had faked his own death. 487 00:29:52,060 --> 00:29:55,280 He was in some sort of trouble, whether it was tax evasion or he was trying to 488 00:29:55,280 --> 00:30:00,960 hide from somebody after him. He had left a wife and a child and came back 489 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:01,960 years later. 490 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,200 Gino had said, I'm going to do that someday. That's what I would do. 491 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,180 Well, I wish that it wasn't him in there. 492 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,300 But I know in my heart that if he was alive, I'd have heard from him by now. 493 00:30:14,780 --> 00:30:18,720 She was wanting to push for answers and really push for answers. And as a 494 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:25,160 mother, I felt for her. And I just, we had the discussion that, well, if we 495 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,480 start stirring the pot, what's going to keep them from doing something to, you 496 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,419 know, our children? 497 00:30:30,420 --> 00:30:33,620 At this point, it's sort of your working theory of what happened. 498 00:30:33,860 --> 00:30:37,700 It feels like he was probably killed, that somebody murdered him. It feels 499 00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:38,700 way to me. 500 00:30:40,860 --> 00:30:43,340 That's what the rumblings were at the time. 501 00:30:44,110 --> 00:30:45,270 that he had been murdered. 502 00:30:45,530 --> 00:30:48,250 And I could certainly see that happening with Gino, you know. 503 00:30:48,490 --> 00:30:52,750 Some of the people he hung with were powerful people. He may have pissed 504 00:30:52,750 --> 00:30:53,750 somebody off. 505 00:30:53,990 --> 00:31:00,810 If he were in some way involved with a drug ring, maybe he knew 506 00:31:00,810 --> 00:31:01,810 something. 507 00:31:02,330 --> 00:31:08,370 And maybe they were worried he would talk. 508 00:31:09,850 --> 00:31:12,550 Conspiracy theories about Gino's death lingered on. 509 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,540 but it would take over 30 years before answers began to surface. 510 00:31:22,980 --> 00:31:29,040 In the days leading up to Gino's mysterious death, those closest to him 511 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,680 that he seemed fearful of something or someone. 512 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:41,540 Of course, you know, this is hearsay, you know, but it seemed to be that 513 00:31:41,540 --> 00:31:42,540 consensus. 514 00:31:42,879 --> 00:31:48,700 He, weeks leading up, or prior to his death, he felt like somebody was going 515 00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:54,200 kill him. To hear multiple people saying that they got that from him as well, 516 00:31:54,460 --> 00:31:56,760 maybe this was a very real possibility. 517 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,820 You know, maybe this is what happened. 518 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,900 I was going to my car, and he was coming in. 519 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,820 And he said, hey, why don't you come along and have a cup of drink? 520 00:32:08,300 --> 00:32:09,300 So I said, okay. 521 00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:11,920 We actually walked to his apartment. 522 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,660 He walked into the kitchen and he had a cabinet above his sink. 523 00:32:18,540 --> 00:32:23,600 He took out a cereal bowl and the bowl was full of cocaine. 524 00:32:23,940 --> 00:32:29,140 There was a lot of cocaine in there. And he put that on the counter and he 525 00:32:29,140 --> 00:32:30,320 started using the cocaine. 526 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:38,160 It wasn't very long, maybe 30 minutes, 40 minutes later, 527 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,260 he stopped speaking. 528 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:47,460 And when I talked, he said, he wasn't being angry to me, but he was, don't 529 00:32:47,460 --> 00:32:51,940 speak. He kept going into the back and looking out the window. 530 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:58,140 He had a quite intense paranoia. He puts a plug in the sink and 531 00:32:58,140 --> 00:33:00,580 turns on the water. 532 00:33:01,220 --> 00:33:08,080 The water started coming over the top, dripping onto the floor. I go to pull 533 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,040 plug out of the sink and... 534 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,840 He stopped me, pulled me back. 535 00:33:13,180 --> 00:33:19,520 He was a... The water was still falling on the floor. I turned 536 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,260 just around a little bit. 537 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,200 He had a gun in his hand. 538 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,260 My heart stopped to beat at first. 539 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:35,200 And he was holding me, telling me to be really quiet and could hear nothing but 540 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,200 the water. 541 00:33:37,940 --> 00:33:39,360 And he seemed... 542 00:33:39,630 --> 00:33:45,070 He'd be comforted that it was covering up sound of some kind. Just the sound of 543 00:33:45,070 --> 00:33:50,110 the water seemed, for whatever reason, he found that comforting. 544 00:33:51,450 --> 00:33:56,910 He would go to the windows and he would just stare outside into the darkness. 545 00:33:57,810 --> 00:34:01,430 Over and over again, just looking outside into the darkness. 546 00:34:03,530 --> 00:34:08,810 Because he was afraid, it seemed, of the dark in his mind. 547 00:34:11,530 --> 00:34:15,929 Did you know or come to know at any point that Gino had sort of issues with 548 00:34:15,929 --> 00:34:18,409 drugs? Yeah, because I was dealing with him. 549 00:34:19,710 --> 00:34:20,710 Duh. 550 00:34:21,010 --> 00:34:26,370 I mean, I was no saint, man. I know that Gino was doing coke, and I don't know 551 00:34:26,370 --> 00:34:27,370 how much he was doing. 552 00:34:28,190 --> 00:34:32,030 But the night I was there, he damn sure had some, quite a bit there. 553 00:34:32,330 --> 00:34:35,350 You know, wasn't no eight ball, that's for damn sure. 554 00:34:36,090 --> 00:34:40,590 I was surprised that there was not any cocaine found by the police. 555 00:34:41,389 --> 00:34:45,409 But I did hear rumors that it was cleaned up. I would just say a good 556 00:34:45,409 --> 00:34:49,290 told me that Rick was kind enough to immediately, there was a bowl. 557 00:34:49,510 --> 00:34:51,409 He said it was crazy. It was almost like a sugar bowl. 558 00:34:51,929 --> 00:34:54,230 And he said, I've never seen that much blow in my life. 559 00:34:54,969 --> 00:34:55,969 It was full of Coke. 560 00:34:56,949 --> 00:34:59,110 Just out of reaction, he just took it and dumped it. 561 00:34:59,710 --> 00:35:02,230 I don't think anyone else that was even there knew that. 562 00:35:02,590 --> 00:35:04,530 I don't know who he thought. Maybe he was protecting. 563 00:35:04,770 --> 00:35:07,770 But, you know, I think he just did it out of instinct. 564 00:35:08,070 --> 00:35:10,330 Some of the wrestlers, including Chris. 565 00:35:11,370 --> 00:35:15,930 There might be more to it. Where was he getting so much cocaine from? 566 00:35:19,410 --> 00:35:23,650 I was afraid then, very afraid, because I haven't talked about it all these 567 00:35:23,650 --> 00:35:27,530 years. Because I got tired of looking over my shoulder every time I walked out 568 00:35:27,530 --> 00:35:30,050 the apartment. And I've been living like that ever since. 569 00:35:31,410 --> 00:35:33,290 Nobody should have to live like that. 570 00:35:34,330 --> 00:35:37,590 It took a lot of my life away from me. And now... 571 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,900 You know, 77, where do I go from here? 572 00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:46,920 Too much secrecy, too much lying, too much deceit. 573 00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:52,220 I truly believe he's not here today because of the people he chose to be 574 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:56,540 I have nothing to lose because I've already lost part of it. 575 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,380 You know, you can't take any more away from me than you already have. 576 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,960 All we really want is just an answer. 577 00:36:05,620 --> 00:36:10,720 Shortly after Gino's family told their story, producers contacted John Royal by 578 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:15,600 phone. He had recently served a 30 -year prison term for trafficking cocaine. 579 00:36:16,020 --> 00:36:18,460 What follows is their recorded conversation. 580 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,940 We're doing a documentary about Gino, and we've been talking a lot with his 581 00:36:23,940 --> 00:36:27,840 family. Your name has come up a couple of times because you were close friends 582 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:28,840 with Gino. 583 00:36:29,140 --> 00:36:33,780 Gino's mother had told us the story at a time when you approached her. 584 00:36:34,410 --> 00:36:38,090 and had told her that you were going to pay for the funeral. Is that true? 585 00:36:39,250 --> 00:36:40,250 Yeah. 586 00:36:40,490 --> 00:36:43,690 I think you had also said that Gino had owed you a lot of money. Is that 587 00:36:43,690 --> 00:36:45,170 something that you had said to her as well? 588 00:36:46,250 --> 00:36:47,770 No, Gino didn't owe me any money. 589 00:36:48,890 --> 00:36:50,430 I mean, I paid for the funeral. 590 00:36:50,650 --> 00:36:52,870 Right. But Gino didn't owe me any money. 591 00:36:53,350 --> 00:36:56,830 Well, that's really good to know. What did she think? Did he owe me some money? 592 00:36:56,910 --> 00:36:58,590 Did I do something to him? 593 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:10,720 Had you ever heard any rumors about, you know, Gino's death not being something 594 00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:11,720 that was accidental? 595 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:13,880 No. 596 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:20,100 I was with him until like 1 o 'clock in the morning the night he died. 597 00:37:20,340 --> 00:37:21,340 Right. 598 00:37:21,660 --> 00:37:27,060 We were at a pub club, and he was in a good mood, and he was buying drinks, and 599 00:37:27,060 --> 00:37:28,240 he was drinking a lot. 600 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,200 I assumed that he was doing some drugs. 601 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,280 In addition 602 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:49,020 to John 603 00:37:49,020 --> 00:37:53,820 Royal's story, a former drug trafficker who asked to remain anonymous has come 604 00:37:53,820 --> 00:37:55,560 forward with his version of events. 605 00:37:56,830 --> 00:38:01,010 Yeah, I really want to remain anonymous. This was 30 years ago, and I'm not 606 00:38:01,010 --> 00:38:04,610 really here to sugarcoat anything. I wanted to tell the truth. You know, I'd 607 00:38:04,610 --> 00:38:08,450 like to set the record straight for the people who are concerned about Gino's 608 00:38:08,450 --> 00:38:09,450 demise. 609 00:38:09,770 --> 00:38:15,830 I wanted you to hear first what he had to say about him and about everything. 610 00:38:15,850 --> 00:38:17,310 Thank you very much. I'm sorry. 611 00:38:17,570 --> 00:38:18,570 It's okay. 612 00:38:20,250 --> 00:38:22,010 When do you wait this long? 613 00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:24,450 32 years. 614 00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:32,200 And, yes, I miss him. I pray for him every day. I talk to him. She knows 615 00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:34,600 I get up at 4 o 'clock every morning. 616 00:38:35,060 --> 00:38:36,220 She was up this morning? 617 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,100 Yeah. Never been praying for two hours. 618 00:38:40,420 --> 00:38:41,420 Yeah, I do that. 619 00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:43,040 Okay, let me know when you're ready. 620 00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:44,900 Okay. I'm ready. Okay. 621 00:38:46,020 --> 00:38:49,420 There's nothing I can gain from this. I'm only doing this because I don't want 622 00:38:49,420 --> 00:38:52,760 Gina's family to worry one more minute. If they've been worried for 30 years, 623 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,820 they've worried 29 years and 364 days too long. 624 00:38:58,030 --> 00:39:02,050 I met Gino through some of the other people in the group and we got to be 625 00:39:02,050 --> 00:39:08,250 friends. This was the 80s and disco was popular and the cocaine and drugs were 626 00:39:08,250 --> 00:39:10,130 all just a part of that culture. 627 00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:14,110 And we kind of saw the opportunity to get involved in selling drugs. 628 00:39:14,370 --> 00:39:17,490 And one of the guys in the group had cultivated a connection. 629 00:39:17,690 --> 00:39:22,650 He would bring it in and he would give us each a certain amount of it. And not 630 00:39:22,650 --> 00:39:26,250 many people know that Gino was involved in this. He was a professional wrestler 631 00:39:26,250 --> 00:39:27,270 and he saw. 632 00:39:27,790 --> 00:39:30,730 I started to make some money, and he thought it would be a good opportunity 633 00:39:30,730 --> 00:39:33,970 him. He didn't make a lot of money as a wrestler, and it was basically just a 634 00:39:33,970 --> 00:39:36,970 way for some young guys to make some money, and it was just something that 635 00:39:36,970 --> 00:39:39,330 everybody was kind of doing in that period of time. 636 00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:42,890 Do you remember giving a eulogy at Gino's funeral? 637 00:39:44,210 --> 00:39:45,210 Absolutely. 638 00:39:45,450 --> 00:39:46,730 Did you remember what you said? 639 00:39:47,550 --> 00:39:50,510 I know it was a long time ago. Well, I mean, I said something like, you know, 640 00:39:50,510 --> 00:39:54,890 wrestling there's good guys and bad guys, and Gino was a bad guy, but in 641 00:39:54,890 --> 00:39:56,850 Gino was a good guy. You know, that's... 642 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,700 That's kind of what I opened up with, I remember. 643 00:40:00,060 --> 00:40:07,000 There was no foul play with me. And this is something you don't know either. 644 00:40:07,060 --> 00:40:08,060 I had a trial. 645 00:40:08,460 --> 00:40:13,600 See, I was selling drugs at the time. They basically said that I gave Gino the 646 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:19,620 drugs that he died on. You know, basically, you know, they were talking 647 00:40:19,620 --> 00:40:23,520 dope. You know, it was just fabricated. And what do you think the circumstances 648 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:24,560 were of his death? 649 00:40:25,549 --> 00:40:30,730 Unfortunately, I felt like Gino started off recreationally using the drugs, and 650 00:40:30,730 --> 00:40:34,750 I think the drugs got hold of him. And, of course, we were all super concerned 651 00:40:34,750 --> 00:40:38,030 because we were in a business that we knew could get us in a lot of trouble, 652 00:40:38,090 --> 00:40:42,390 even though we weren't gangsters. And at the same time, I don't think we saw a 653 00:40:42,390 --> 00:40:46,970 cop behind every bush like Gino seemed to do in the last part of his life. 654 00:40:47,580 --> 00:40:51,080 Just knowing Gino, I would imagine that he probably went to a club and probably 655 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,040 drank a lot of alcohol, and he probably came back to his apartment, overdosed on 656 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,500 drugs, and died of a combination of drugs and alcohol. 657 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:04,260 I have misgivings because Gino had this problem with the drugs and that I should 658 00:41:04,260 --> 00:41:11,180 have recognized it and did an intervention with him and saved him. I 659 00:41:11,180 --> 00:41:14,820 don't know Gino's family, but I would speak to them directly and say, do not. 660 00:41:15,210 --> 00:41:18,290 be concerned about anything that happened to Gino. 661 00:41:18,750 --> 00:41:23,210 It was basically just a situation of his own doing, unfortunately. I know that's 662 00:41:23,210 --> 00:41:26,970 hard to hear because I know you loved him and I loved him too, but if you're 663 00:41:26,970 --> 00:41:31,570 concerned about anything, you should put that at rest because you've worried for 664 00:41:31,570 --> 00:41:34,110 30 years and I can absolutely tell you there's nothing to worry about. 665 00:41:38,910 --> 00:41:40,510 Can't take those years back. 666 00:41:43,850 --> 00:41:45,250 But I still have my daughter. 667 00:41:47,310 --> 00:41:52,670 And it's just nice to know that we don't have anything to worry about. 668 00:41:55,130 --> 00:41:56,130 Not anymore. 669 00:41:57,830 --> 00:42:00,250 And I thank you very much for this. 670 00:42:03,730 --> 00:42:06,790 I want to believe that it was a tragic accident. 671 00:42:07,690 --> 00:42:10,070 I want to believe that... 672 00:42:13,550 --> 00:42:18,030 Somehow, someway, he made a mistake. 673 00:42:19,110 --> 00:42:20,250 That's what I want to believe. 674 00:42:21,230 --> 00:42:23,670 I'm the type of person I can forgive anybody. 675 00:42:24,770 --> 00:42:25,770 You know? 676 00:42:26,370 --> 00:42:28,270 Yes, I forgive John Royal. 677 00:42:29,650 --> 00:42:35,090 I forgive anybody that I thought the wrong way, but I didn't know any 678 00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:37,990 Had nobody tell me outright. 679 00:42:40,310 --> 00:42:44,590 Watching my grandma, she's lived a sad life. I mean, she's gone through things 680 00:42:44,590 --> 00:42:47,390 and lived through things that no mother should ever have to. 681 00:42:47,950 --> 00:42:51,730 And sometimes you look at her and you think, wow, you know, you can't believe 682 00:42:51,730 --> 00:42:54,450 that she walked that walk and that she's still smiling today. 683 00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:58,890 But she is, you know, and that's, I think, the piece of life that goes on. 684 00:42:59,930 --> 00:43:03,370 But now I know there's nothing to be afraid of. 685 00:43:03,570 --> 00:43:04,570 Nothing. 686 00:43:05,130 --> 00:43:06,450 I feel so good. 687 00:43:07,470 --> 00:43:13,990 I could even have a margarita. The legacy of Gino Hornadis, unfortunately, 688 00:43:14,350 --> 00:43:18,510 he wasn't around long enough to create one of those. I would like to see him 689 00:43:18,510 --> 00:43:20,410 Gino into the Hall of Fame. 690 00:43:21,210 --> 00:43:22,790 I think Gino was that good. 691 00:43:23,830 --> 00:43:26,550 I want him to be remembered for the person that he was. 692 00:43:28,810 --> 00:43:32,010 And he made me, as his mother, very, very proud. 693 00:43:32,490 --> 00:43:35,310 I hear a lot that I look like my dad. 694 00:43:35,710 --> 00:43:39,350 I mean, that they look like your dad, talk like your dad. 695 00:43:39,690 --> 00:43:44,490 It's smooth sailing from here on out. I have five children. I have two girls and 696 00:43:44,490 --> 00:43:45,169 three boys. 697 00:43:45,170 --> 00:43:50,230 And you see little pieces of each of them in him through those videos. That's 698 00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:51,230 what's cool to watch. 699 00:43:51,250 --> 00:43:58,130 With you guys here and doing this, it's kind of like I finally get my peace 700 00:43:58,130 --> 00:43:59,130 at heart. 701 00:43:59,630 --> 00:44:01,010 And I thank you for that. 61165

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