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When we talk about wrestling in the 80s,
it's hard to imagine how popular the
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Von Erich brothers were. Those guys were
ready -made.
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The Von Erich family could have been the
equivalent of the Kennedys. It was a
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dynasty. It was a family dynasty.
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They were the all -American boys from
Texas. They are real -life Texas heroes
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the flesh.
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They didn't have to put them in a funny
outfit.
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They didn't have to give them a
different name.
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They had the look. They had the
physiques.
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They had the athletic ability.
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They were superheroes in the ring. But
then there was constant bad news.
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The Von Erichs could have two legacies.
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They could have a legacy of being one of
the biggest attractions, wrestling
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families in history.
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Or they could have a legacy as a
cautionary tale.
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Von Erich was found dead and Von Erich
was seriously injured.
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He just couldn't take it anymore.
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I've loved the wrestling business all my
life, but it's not that important.
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Some people say, well, it's just the
pressure of the spotlight.
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Other celebrities have been unable to
cope.
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Who knew we were going to have, you
know, four major deaths over the next
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years?
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During their brief reign, the Von Erich
family ascended to wrestling
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superstardom, but just as quickly
suffered relentless personal tragedy.
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In this episode, the last surviving
brother reflects on his unimaginable
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journey.
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You know, I wanted to get away from
wrestling. I wanted to get out. I wanted
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be anonymous.
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And they say the Pacific Ocean has no
memory.
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Well, here I am in the smack dab in the
middle of it.
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Is there any other place in the world
you'd rather be than here?
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No, this is it.
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It's the love and the peace and the
harmony.
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You can't put a price on that, you know.
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I think I'm the richest man in the
world.
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My childhood?
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Well, I was an older brother, and so it
was a lot of fighting.
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I could overdo that power of being a big
brother, but so I learned not to.
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But, man, they adored me, and I adored
them. There was this us -against -the
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-world kind of thing.
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Lee, don't think I'm in a bad way, that
I'm suffering at all. I consider myself
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the luckiest man in the world.
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These are some hunting pictures. We
always hunted with our dad. These were
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we were real young.
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We lived in little 16 acres in this
little shack.
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That's how we lived out in the country
when Dad was wrestling.
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And then here's a shot just about...
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Two miles from this spot is this farm,
and this is where I raised my voice.
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My dad always said, whatever you put
into something is what you get out of
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He was a really good wrestler, a solid
wrestler.
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There's no way I can be objective.
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I think he was the best of all time. But
he was a vicious wrestler.
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My father, you know, wanted something
different.
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If you want to be a bad guy, you be the
best.
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So as far as my dad was concerned, a
Nazi was about the most despised
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could be, and he was a Nazi.
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This is Von Erich from Berlin, Germany.
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Here we go.
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He could create a lot of heat just
coming across as the German hit the ring
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was going to beat up all the Americans.
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My connection with the Von Erich family
is I was Rich's right -hand man.
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Rich was the main event.
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He was a huge star in the 50s and 60s
all over the country.
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If you're wondering what qualifies me to
be a pro wrestling expert, it's simple.
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Almost 50 years of obsessive collecting,
hoarding, and research.
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So Fritz had gotten the reputation as
the toughest guy in Texas.
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As little kids, our dad being the bad
guy, we didn't see it that way. So
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watching wrestling to us was torment.
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You know, when the crowd was cheering,
we knew that was bad.
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Because, without a doubt, he was the
most hated villain of all wrestling. And
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one brother would have to watch while
the other brothers would cover our ears
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and eyes and, you know, wouldn't look.
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And the other brothers would say, Dad's
winning.
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So we'd start watching again, you know.
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We were so into it.
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Fritz also developed the Iron Claw.
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The claw's a hold that my dad invented.
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The crazy thing about it is that after
years and years of doing the claw,
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you get scary, crazy good at it.
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You just grab and you do this, you know,
squeeze the guy in the temples with
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your big hands. You just, that's it.
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My name is Dave Meltzer, and I've been
writing the Wrestling Observer
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since 1982, so it's been pretty much my
entire life.
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Fritz von Erich was actually wanting to
get out of wrestling and raise his
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family and do a lot less traveling.
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It was always the goal of wrestlers in
those days to buy a territory, become a
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promoter. That's where the real money
was.
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Fritz had a big office, and he's the
boss, and he's the promoter with World
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Class Championship Wrestling, but he was
also a very strong business person.
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Almost every wrestler that became a
promoter, he wanted your sons to be
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wrestlers so they can be the stars of
the next generation.
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I don't know that even if he realized
how big a star they were going to be. We
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got into wrestling because we wanted to
be like our dad.
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I was born into wrestling.
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One good thing about being brothers, we
knew exactly what was going on. It was
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beautiful. Almost should be illegal,
what an upper hand we had on other
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Because you know exactly what they're
thinking. It was a perfect storm. The
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young Von Erich boys had debuted, had
gotten a couple years' experience. They
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looked great. People knew them. And all
of a sudden now they're on this new
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-looking program.
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They were household names. Everybody
knew who they were.
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Austin, we're the number one show at 9 o
'clock in the morning on Sunday
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mornings.
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They said, well, let's cover this like a
sporting event. They would have the
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cameraman and they would have the sound
guy, like, actually in the ring.
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You know, during the tapings, you look
at it and go like... What's he doing in
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the ring? Because no other company would
ever do that.
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We literally set the stage of where
wrestling would go.
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They came up with a comic book where
there's some bad guys that are trying to
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take over the universe and they need the
Von Erks because their hearts are so
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good. So that was just, we just cleaned
up space a little bit. You know, just
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the riffraff.
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The girls just went nuts.
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There's no telling what magazine you
would see him in. They were teenage hot
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drops. They were teen idols. Kevin,
Kerry, Dave.
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Going to the ring would be like a
madhouse. The girls would cry about us,
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know, and of course you've got to keep
going. And so pretty soon your shoulders
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are just, you know, scratched all up and
bleeding, you know, and the place would
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just go electric.
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I mean, your ears ring. You go home from
that shrill scream.
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That was what we shot for. We wanted
that feeling, that intensity to stay
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way until it was over.
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Kerry was the star.
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Kerry had the movie star looks, had the
physique.
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He had great personality, just charisma.
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I've never seen anybody that had his
strength.
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David was the best performer in the
ring, all around, psychology, movement,
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cetera, athletically.
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David used to go to the ring with the
big yellow rose, and he was hit there at
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the Yellow Rose of Texas.
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Dave was a technician.
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There was not a hole you could surprise
him with.
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Kevin, I think, was the athlete. He was
just insane, the things he could do. He
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was probably by far the best raw athlete
of the bunch. Then Mike. Mike didn't
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have the size as the other brothers. He
was real close with his little brother,
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Chris.
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Chris, funny, funny guy.
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Just loved life.
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The Von Eriks epitomized God, family,
and country. They're heroes.
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completely more popular than movie stars
and more accessible. From the time the
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kids were young, if they won an award in
school, athletic award, it was talked
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about on the television show, and they
were in wrestling magazines with
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out hunting or fishing out in Lake
Dallas with their famous father, they
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in the public eye.
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They grew up on television.
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That's a lot of pressure.
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I'd like to say that it was, you know,
clean -cut dyes, but I think people
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realized we were human.
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You could guarantee us that we had pure
hearts and we had good motives. And
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maybe that was something real about us,
that we're a family. And we did love
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each other and care and regard our fans
as sort of people and not tickets.
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And so to their fans, they were more
members of the family in some cases.
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There's something about those boys,
every one of them, that everyone loves
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and I love them. So literally, it was
almost like I think everyone felt like
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they were the parent.
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and they had watched these kids grow up,
they were busy on the road, because
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you've got to realize, it's a 365 -day
job. In other words, these guys were
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wrestling everywhere, sometimes two
times a day.
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The talks were already out there that
David could be one of the top prospects
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be the next world heavyweight champion.
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David was the worker.
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Everybody universally said that.
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He would have been the guy the NWA
picked.
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Even before Dave went to Japan, he was
sitting with my mother at the table, and
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I said, Dave, I just had that really bad
feeling. I said, they're looking at
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him, and it was looking more and more
pale to me.
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I got a phone call and was asleep.
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To this day, I can't stand a phone call
before daylight.
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It just tears me up.
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This voice says, David Manning, Joe
Higuchi, All Japan Pro Wrestling.
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David Von Erich Dent.
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And here is after my first knee surgery.
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On my third knee surgery, my knees were
shot, and then I had to give up
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football. I guess Dave was in chronic
relief.
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My parents, they knew how much I loved
football, and so I said, Dave, be
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what you say to him. He's just got the
worst news of his life. He can't play
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football. And Dave comes and says, so I
heard you're a quitter.
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When Dave died, I never got up from that
all the way.
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It hit me like no other one did.
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I say I was the oldest brother, but I
was the second son.
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Our oldest brother was Jackie.
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They lived in a trailer park because
since they were always on the road, they
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had a house trailer that they could move
from place to place.
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You know, Jack was actually coming home
from school and it had snowed. I think
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he was six years old.
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And as he was trying to step over the
tongue or go around the tongue of a
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trailer, he touched it.
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Somehow it electrocuted him.
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And he fell in the snow face first and
drowned.
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I was looking for him, you know, a
little three -year -old kid looking for
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And I knew something was bad. And I was
like watching it. My parents, they were
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all crying.
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And Jackie had been electrocuted.
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Came in and saw my dad punch the car
window and just shatter it. He came out
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that different.
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He was still an honorable man on the
outside, but I think inside he wanted to
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die. He was suffering. He'd think, what
have I done to deserve this?
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He was at war with the world.
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He wanted to make everyone suffer like
him. It was the first of unimaginable
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tragedy that that one family had to go
through.
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When it came to David Von Erich getting
the news that he passed away, it was
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about 2 in the morning, and the phone
rang, and I picked up the phone, and
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voice says, David Von Erich dead.
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And I said, so what happened? We find in
room dead.
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It's 2 .30 in the morning, and I'm
trying to decide how do I get this news.
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then, there weren't cell phones.
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And so I got in my car, and I'll never
forget, it was just coming daylight, and
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as I pulled in, I could see Fritz in
front of the motor coach in the window.
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And I got out of the car, and I walked
to the door, and he opened the door to
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the motor coach, and he looked at me,
and he said, which one?
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So I think he knew for me to go all the
way down there is something very, very
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serious. I said, Fritz, they just called
me from Japan.
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David's dead.
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My mother, she'd been told, and she just
went running off into the woods. It was
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barely daybreak. My dad just walked
outside and stared in the sky.
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I went a little bit crazy. I didn't want
to see anybody.
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I had to be in the woods, and I stayed
in the woods, too.
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Fritz said, you go to town, you make the
phone calls, you find out what happened
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to my boy. I managed to get a hold of
Brody, who was also a legendary
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popular in Japan.
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Brody said that... When they opened the
door, the way he was laying, it looked
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like he was trying to get to the phone.
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I knew Brody always to be so tough and
such a strong, good man. But when he was
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telling me, he was like, he couldn't
talk, you know.
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He's crying inside. I never saw Brody
cry.
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I said, Frank, don't think about it.
Don't think about it, Frank.
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And he goes, he's dead, Kevin.
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Frank. God, it was terrible.
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The next day after David died, you know,
going to the mall in Wichita, Texas,
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and you see like these like teenage
girls and they're all crying and the
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are consoling them. It was a big
freaking deal in that part of the
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It was almost like the fans had lost a
son.
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I mean, it was emotional on two
continents because the Japanese fans
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hung up in wrestling that when a big
name foreign wrestler dies on their
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mean, there was memorials and the guys
were broken up.
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I remember that airplane coming in with
Dave's coffin on it. No one would look
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us in the eye because they knew we all
hurt. We hurt so bad.
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And people hurt for us, too.
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The funeral was just insane. It was like
one of those old funerals of the silent
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movie stars.
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There was a lot of wrestlers right here
in this area. When they went to the
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funeral, the tears flowed. It was hard
to take.
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And so we estimated probably 4 ,000 to 5
,000 people showed up for this service.
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It was just beautiful.
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expression of love. The schools let out.
The Texas legislature convened. It was
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like Texas got hurt that day.
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You couldn't get anybody else in. They
literally had to put a screen outside
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speakers outside for the thousands of
people that were there.
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I didn't know that we were that big, I
guess.
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Inside the business,
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We heard that he passed away in his
hotel room in Japan.
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That generally only means one thing.
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There's all this word out that he
overdosed, but there's no doubt that he
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didn't.
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One of the biggest rumors out there was
that when Brody found him, Brody threw
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away all the pills, and we waited to
hear that autopsy report.
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Fritz was adamant, I want to know what
the autopsy says.
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And whatever it says, that's what we're
going to have to put out.
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And it came back, acute enteritis.
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His intestines, basically from an
infection, swole up to the point they
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ruptured. His body filled up with blood
and heart failure.
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About two days or a day before he was
going to leave to go to Japan, he was
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throwing up.
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Fritz was very stern about, you make the
shows you're booked at.
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So he left and went over there.
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No, I'm telling you what really
happened.
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We're not big shots that told the
country of Japan to falsify those
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You know, I'm a wrestler.
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You're not going to listen to me for
that. It was gastroenteritis.
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A terrible way to die.
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And we lost him.
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Every man's going to die.
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But we do our best.
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We do our best until that day comes.
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We had a guy named Glenn Goza, and he
had wrote Heaven Needs a Champion.
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And he literally put a song of there's a
main event taking place in heaven, and
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God brought David Von Erich there to be
the star.
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You wore the family name with pride.
David Von Erich, as a person and as a
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wrestler, was a true champion.
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He had a great gift, and he knew how to
take it to its fullest.
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After David's funeral, Fritz would hold
the Parade of Champions event in his
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son's honor, which at the time attracted
the largest crowd ever.
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to watch a wrestling event in the United
States.
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There will be a new World's Heavyweight
Champion crowd on that afternoon.
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The brother of David Von Erich, Kerry,
was going to challenge Nature Boy Ric
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Flair for the NWA World Championship
that had always eluded the Von Erich
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family, and this time he said, I'm going
to win it for David. We were adamant
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with the NWA, National Wrestling
Alliance, we had to switch that title.
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I think that's where we saw Fritz had
some clout. The dream of my brother is
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my reality.
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Leading up to that match, we knew it was
going to be big. We didn't know how
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big.
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But all of a sudden, you've got 42 -plus
thousand people at Texas Stadium, and
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they're there to see one thing.
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That title change.
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Your referee is David Manning. Here I
knew I was going to go down in the
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books. The title was changing that
night.
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I was super happy for Kerry. I thought
he'd make a great champion.
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Here we go.
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It was incredible.
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You can feel the tension.
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And whenever that one, two, three.
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The whole place went nuts.
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And then you got.
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Kevin hit the ring. You got Fritz
hitting the ring. You can see Doris in
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background. I'm presenting the belt. The
media's going crazy. We had all the
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radio stations there.
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The Yellow Rose in honor of Brother
David.
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It was a great night. Not bittersweet at
all. Sweet, sweet.
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That was probably a bigger deal to the
Von Erich boys than it was to Fritz
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himself and to the fans.
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With Kerry's championship win and a
strong emotional bond with fans, World
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-class championship wrestling was now on
fire.
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But with David gone, there was a void to
fill.
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Fritz wanted to replace David because we
were missing a piece of the puzzle, and
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we decided to look for another Von
Erich.
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Whenever I saw Lance, he was the perfect
guy. He was chiseled. He looked like he
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could be a Von Erich.
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It was a terrible idea.
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We had never lied to our people.
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It really hurt their image, and it
started the downward spiral going a
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bit quicker.
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They knew he wasn't a real Von Erich.
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They're lying to us.
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Lance.
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Growing up, of course, we wanted to be
just like him. He's like real -life
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Tarzan, you know, climbing trees. Any
river he sees, he gets out of the car,
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he'll dive in it, doesn't care what's in
it.
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We saw that fearlessness in every
situation, not only in the ring, but in
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And, you know, that's what we wanted to
be like. And we're just grateful to God
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that we can follow in the footsteps. And
doors are opening in wrestling.
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And we get to, you know, pick up where
the Von Erichs left off.
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Kevin and I talk, you know, I go to
Hawaiian theme.
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He's got two great boys now, Marshall
and Roth.
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Gosh, they're so talented. And when I
look at them, I see the brothers.
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You're just kind of crazy.
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Thanks, sir. Can you tell us the story
about Lance Von Erich?
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Yeah.
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Kerry and I were dead set against that.
Of all of the angles that happened in
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the final years of world -class
wrestling, Lance Von Erich was the
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They needed another Von Eriks.
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Overall, it did a lot more damage than
it did good. And then when they got on
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the outs with Lance and tried to disown
him, the fans just said, well, you're
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the ones that brought him and sold him
to us. That's where I think people lost
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lot of faith. I have to say, Kevin was
dead set against it. He felt it could
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exposed and that Mike would be able to
step up and take the role.
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People shouldn't say that Mike was an
athlete because he sure was. Mike was an
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incredible athlete.
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Mike got involved in wrestling and
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he wanted to have the size of the other
brothers. And he worked out hard.
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You know, he had the drive, he had the
stamina.
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So it was hard for Mike.
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Mike was a great guy, but he wasn't cut
out to be a wrestler.
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Mike had to walk in there and be David
Von Erich and be a main event wrestler
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19, 20 years old, and he wasn't a great
athlete. The only thing he had going for
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him is that he was called Mike Von
Erich.
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I mean, he just didn't look like a
wrestler at all, and he's in there with,
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like, Ric Flair and these big, great
wrestlers who are just carrying him in
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these matches that are just painful, in
a sense, to watch.
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The injuries did bother him, you know.
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He was wrestling in Tel Aviv against Gio
Hernandez.
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Gino pulled just when he wasn't ready,
and out it came.
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This time it tore a lot of ligaments.
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Only a year after David's death, Mike
dislocates his shoulder in the ring and
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rushed to an Israeli hospital.
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They perform emergency surgery, and soon
after, Mike is flown back to Texas.
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They literally took him home, and all of
a sudden his temperature is sky high.
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The fever hitting over 105 is what did
the damage, I think.
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I put him over my shoulder and walked
down the steps with him and put him in
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car and took off.
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Mike Von Erich, hospitalized for routine
shoulder surgery, sustained a staph
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infection that escalated into toxic
shock syndrome.
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It was toxic shock syndrome, what they
called it.
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And the doctor comes out and he said his
blood pressure has plummeted, his
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organs are starting to shut down.
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He said, we've done everything we can
do.
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He said, I don't think Mike's going to
make it through the night.
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You know, they told us to say goodbye to
them.
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The hospital was getting like 250 calls
an hour where they had to hire on extra
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staff. People had been offering to
donate their liver and their kidneys.
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We were in the room, and Gary Holder,
who was considered the chaplain of world
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class, was there in the room.
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Gary Holder said, God, you stand on your
word. You said anything we ask in
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Jesus' name, I will do it. That's when I
didn't even look up. I thought, that's
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disrespectful. You went too far.
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He took the Bible and he slammed it down
on the table. And he said, God, there
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is your word.
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So keep your word, God.
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And it was less than 30 seconds after
Gary finished praying. The doors opened.
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Bill Sutker.
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came in the room with his other doctor,
and his exact words were, I'm not sure
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what happened, but everything's
functioning.
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His temperature has dropped, so let's
see where we're at.
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They couldn't believe it, but he's a
fighter.
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And I want to thank everyone out there,
all my good neighbors, for your prayers.
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One week later, we rolled Mike out of
the hospital.
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He might have rushed it a little bit. He
was so anxious to get back, and so we
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did a big press conference.
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I know I'll be back.
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I saw on TV, well, Mike's going to come
back, and they were milking to it and
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trying to get people interested in it.
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I just didn't see how it was going to
work.
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And when he first came back, I was like,
God, I don't know if he should come
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back and wrestle. He probably shouldn't
have wrestled to begin with. He looked
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really gaunt and hollow.
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I wondered if there was brain damage.
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And that's when he attacked a stoplight,
attacked a parked car one time. Just
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outrageous, you know, nobody in the
parked car.
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But they always wanted a feel -good
story at the end. And it always worked
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it was stuff that they could write.
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But when it was real life and they
couldn't control it, it...
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It didn't work.
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You got to realize when Mike came on the
scene, the brothers were superstars.
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So all of a sudden you had big shoes to
fill.
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And I think that was a lot of pressure
that went on Mike.
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And early Saturday morning, Von Erich
was arrested on suspicion of drunken
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driving and possession of marijuana.
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The Von Erich family attorney assisted
Mike during his release from jail.
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He would be the last person to see him
alive.
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Mike missed an event. If you were Von
Erich, you didn't miss an event.
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I remember that night.
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wondering where Mike was, what he was
thinking.
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They had a bulletin out everywhere, had
all the police looking, and it was, I
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want to say, two days, maybe three,
before they found Mike.
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The news of another tragic death in the
Von Erich family has hit hard. Mike had
426
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,760
not been seen since Saturday and
reportedly was depressed about being
427
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,660
the night before. As his mother and
brother looked on, the family's worst
428
00:25:42,660 --> 00:25:43,639
were confirmed.
429
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,280
Professional wrestler Mike Von Erich is
dead, the apparent victim of suicide.
430
00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:50,340
He overdosed.
431
00:25:50,620 --> 00:25:51,620
So sad.
432
00:25:52,380 --> 00:25:55,840
Everybody was just so sad. Dave and now
Mike.
433
00:25:58,140 --> 00:26:01,640
You know, I didn't know this thing was
going to get so emotional. Maybe I
434
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,680
These are three big things, I guess.
435
00:26:06,420 --> 00:26:11,280
You guys, could I take another break for
just about ten minutes?
436
00:26:11,540 --> 00:26:12,540
Oh, yeah, of course.
437
00:26:13,300 --> 00:26:14,720
That was taxing.
438
00:26:16,910 --> 00:26:21,250
And once again, another Von Erich
brother is called upon to step into the
439
00:26:21,950 --> 00:26:26,330
Chris Von Erich was the worst part of
the whole thing because he had had
440
00:26:26,330 --> 00:26:30,050
problems. I'm sure he wanted to be like
his brothers because his brothers were
441
00:26:30,050 --> 00:26:30,929
his heroes.
442
00:26:30,930 --> 00:26:34,950
Kevin was actually helping Chris work
out. He had to work ten times harder
443
00:26:34,950 --> 00:26:38,270
everybody else. His body wasn't built
like his brother's. He wanted to be a
444
00:26:38,270 --> 00:26:39,270
wrestler so bad.
445
00:26:39,470 --> 00:26:41,510
It's just not going to happen.
446
00:26:42,330 --> 00:26:45,890
The Von Erichs were believable heroes to
thousands of fans.
447
00:26:47,180 --> 00:26:51,840
But continual misfortune chipped away at
their image, and they would have one
448
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,580
last desperate attempt to revive it.
449
00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:03,100
My brothers taught me about wrestling,
but I taught them about eating.
450
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:05,080
Mike was really something special.
451
00:27:05,460 --> 00:27:06,460
I thought you were full.
452
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,040
These are for dad.
453
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,280
We did a few TV commercials, shot it all
night. For a joke, Carrie puts all
454
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,360
these foot products over in my thing. I
didn't even notice it. This is a gift
455
00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:18,180
from a fan right here.
456
00:27:18,380 --> 00:27:22,800
Really old picture. We loved our fans,
and to this day, they're the most loyal
457
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,840
people in the world. We wanted to be,
like, good and be good examples to kids.
458
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,700
And, you know, after Dave's death and
Mike's death, you feel like you're
459
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:33,940
everybody down.
460
00:27:34,140 --> 00:27:35,260
It's really hard.
461
00:27:35,660 --> 00:27:38,900
With this being the third death in the
family and being such a strong Christian
462
00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:42,540
family, I think the first thing
everybody wants to do is question, well,
463
00:27:42,540 --> 00:27:45,200
they're such strong Christians, why is
all this happening to them? I'm not
464
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,920
saying that the boys didn't believe in
God and weren't religious. They just
465
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,720
sometimes didn't do things outside the
ring that way. And I don't mean they
466
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,920
terrorizing the population. They were
damaging themselves more than anybody
467
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,700
else. But because they were so closely
identified as not only being Texas All
468
00:27:59,700 --> 00:28:03,700
-Americans, but God -fearing Texas All
-Americans, when things came out
469
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,960
car wrecks or suicides or is there drugs
involved in these things or whatever.
470
00:28:09,340 --> 00:28:13,620
Every move was covered by the
newspapers, the Dallas Times, Herald,
471
00:28:13,620 --> 00:28:17,340
television stations. And you could tell
when you watch a television show, you're
472
00:28:17,340 --> 00:28:18,380
seeing more empty seats.
473
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,780
You know, like, look, they were huge in
86 and by 88, 89, they were pretty bad
474
00:28:23,780 --> 00:28:24,780
off.
475
00:28:25,420 --> 00:28:30,920
After so much tragedy and with a family
legacy in jeopardy, Fritz's youngest
476
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,770
son, Chris, steps into the ring
attempting to pick up where his brothers
477
00:28:35,770 --> 00:28:40,750
off. I think Chris felt bad. He wanted
to try to fulfill the shoes that it was
478
00:28:40,750 --> 00:28:42,890
almost impossible to fill based on his
size.
479
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,920
The first I remember of Chris was, you
know, just being like a little
480
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,300
The goal was to hopefully find a way to
get Chris involved into the matches.
481
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,600
If he was going to wrestle, I wanted to
have him a really good ground game, know
482
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,300
all the scapes and counters, and to be a
technician.
483
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,760
Physically, in no way should he have
been involved in wrestling. Because of
484
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,060
size, I think he had asthma. He had
brittle bones because of the asthma
485
00:29:06,060 --> 00:29:07,060
medication that he took.
486
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,120
Really hard for him.
487
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,520
Wanted to have the big muscles and all
that, but...
488
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,200
The muscles are just looks.
489
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:20,380
You've got to have agility, explosive,
balance, snap, all these things that
490
00:29:20,380 --> 00:29:21,380
didn't happen for him.
491
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,420
And then all of a sudden, Chris broke
his arm.
492
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,480
He couldn't work out.
493
00:29:28,940 --> 00:29:30,900
It was a big, big setback.
494
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,420
Kevin was down there.
495
00:29:32,660 --> 00:29:37,480
They were down at the house in Edom, and
Chris was just all upset and depressed
496
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,480
and this and that.
497
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:39,920
He loaned me his VCR.
498
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,040
And so he called me at like 12 .30 that
night.
499
00:29:43,420 --> 00:29:46,980
I want my VCR back right now. I said,
Chris, come on, wait for me in the
500
00:29:46,980 --> 00:29:47,639
morning, okay?
501
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,700
I'll give it to you in the morning.
502
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,840
And I hear his four -wheeler drive
around my house a couple of times and
503
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,440
off. I knew he had a spot up on the hill
he used to go to.
504
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,060
So I drove up there, you know, and he
was sitting there by himself. I said,
505
00:30:02,140 --> 00:30:04,540
Chris, what are you doing up here by
yourself like this?
506
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,420
He said, well, did you read my note?
507
00:30:07,070 --> 00:30:09,970
I said, oh, what are you going to do,
kill yourself or something, Chris? Come
508
00:30:09,970 --> 00:30:10,569
now, bud.
509
00:30:10,570 --> 00:30:14,450
I said, Chris, don't do anything crazy,
okay? He said, I won't, Kev, I promise.
510
00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:16,530
I said, I'll believe that, you know.
511
00:30:18,190 --> 00:30:23,630
Went back to my parents' house to check
his bedroom and said, does Chris ever
512
00:30:23,630 --> 00:30:24,710
write suicide notes?
513
00:30:25,150 --> 00:30:27,610
Dad said, I think you better get up
there.
514
00:30:28,250 --> 00:30:33,670
So I did get back up there and wish I'd
never left because I got there right
515
00:30:33,670 --> 00:30:35,450
after it must have happened.
516
00:30:36,330 --> 00:30:38,370
I saw him laying there on the ground
choking.
517
00:30:40,190 --> 00:30:44,190
I said, Chris, what did you do? I
thought he might have took some pills.
518
00:30:45,290 --> 00:30:49,970
I hooked his arm and put my hand under
his head to lift him up and my thumb,
519
00:30:49,970 --> 00:30:50,970
know, found the hole.
520
00:30:51,690 --> 00:30:54,190
I thought I'd realized that he'd shot
himself in the head.
521
00:30:56,770 --> 00:30:57,770
Yeah.
522
00:31:01,970 --> 00:31:05,470
With the last vestiges of the Von Erich
family torn apart,
523
00:31:06,470 --> 00:31:10,090
Kerry accepts an offer to go mainstream
with the WWF.
524
00:31:11,130 --> 00:31:13,250
It's another chance in the spotlight.
525
00:31:13,930 --> 00:31:16,910
You know what? When the crowd started
dropping here, Kerry was getting big
526
00:31:16,910 --> 00:31:20,710
offers. Would he come up and work for
Vince? Would he make some appearances up
527
00:31:20,710 --> 00:31:25,030
there? Kerry, he took a good offer from
Vince, and he went up there.
528
00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:30,550
After enduring several tragedies and the
decline of his family's wrestling
529
00:31:30,550 --> 00:31:31,550
promotion,
530
00:31:31,980 --> 00:31:35,780
Kerry takes the Von Erich legacy to
wrestling's biggest stage.
531
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,200
However, no one knew he was wrestling
with an unthinkable secret.
532
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,560
This is a school picture.
533
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,440
What a cute little kid.
534
00:31:55,159 --> 00:31:56,940
Were you guys like really curious kids?
535
00:31:57,140 --> 00:31:58,500
Like, were you really like active?
536
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,260
Kerry and I just showed off for each
other all day long, I think. We just
537
00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:06,960
we took a chance a day. It was like,
yeah.
538
00:32:07,860 --> 00:32:13,680
A lucrative offer made to Kerry by the
WWF was an opportunity to revive the Von
539
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,680
Erich name.
540
00:32:14,820 --> 00:32:18,720
However, a secret from his past was
slowly catching up with him.
541
00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:23,170
Kerry was supposed to be wrestling that
night. I want to say Austin or
542
00:32:23,170 --> 00:32:26,690
somewhere. I get the phone call. Kerry's
been in an accident. It's not life
543
00:32:26,690 --> 00:32:29,430
-threatening, but he really busted up
his leg.
544
00:32:29,650 --> 00:32:33,090
Kerry was riding his motorcycle and ran
into the back of a parked police car.
545
00:32:33,390 --> 00:32:37,570
I remember Rick Hazard. I saw him. And
he said, holy cow. He said his ankle
546
00:32:37,570 --> 00:32:41,490
looked like an alligator chewed on it.
When they made the decision to amputate,
547
00:32:41,530 --> 00:32:43,650
I would have never, ever thought.
548
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,120
It could be kept secret. I guess Fritz
thought they didn't want to make Kerry
549
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,580
look weak, especially after the other
tragedies, so they tried to hide the
550
00:32:52,580 --> 00:32:54,220
of his foot situation.
551
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,060
He wanted me to promise to hide that,
and we all promised.
552
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,180
Anything we said to each other, if we
gave our word, that's an oath.
553
00:33:01,820 --> 00:33:04,780
We weren't going to let Kerry down
because he was ashamed of it.
554
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:08,400
In Kerry's mind, I'm a fake.
555
00:33:08,860 --> 00:33:12,240
You know, the injury down on this leg,
what about it now?
556
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:19,180
It was almost to the point where I
almost had to have my leg amputated.
557
00:33:19,580 --> 00:33:21,960
Now my leg is back. It's coming on
strong.
558
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,080
Everyone was sworn to secrecy over about
a five -year period there.
559
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,940
He would do everything that a person
with both limbs would do. I think that
560
00:33:30,940 --> 00:33:35,800
would have just been such a testimonial.
And I was proud of Kerry to come back
561
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,280
like that and not only just compete, but
to impress people.
562
00:33:40,190 --> 00:33:43,330
They could have presented it like that,
and maybe he would have been a little
563
00:33:43,330 --> 00:33:45,890
bit more inspirational, maybe it would
have made him feel better. But instead,
564
00:33:46,010 --> 00:33:49,350
it was another thing he had to hide, and
it was another thing that was probably
565
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:50,530
weighing on him mentally.
566
00:33:50,730 --> 00:33:55,050
Now I'll never be as good as I could be.
I'll never make my dad proud, whatever
567
00:33:55,050 --> 00:33:56,050
the case may be.
568
00:33:56,350 --> 00:34:01,190
With his transition to wrestling's
grandest stage, Kerry found himself a
569
00:34:01,190 --> 00:34:02,730
fish in a big pond.
570
00:34:02,970 --> 00:34:06,290
But with a new identity, it was a chance
to reboot his career.
571
00:34:06,939 --> 00:34:09,500
Vince brings in Kerry Von Erich, the
modern -day warrior.
572
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,360
You know, he was one of the biggest
superstars of that period.
573
00:34:12,820 --> 00:34:17,199
I mean, it was like he still had the
physique, but introducing him at that
574
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:20,679
of the game to a national audience when
he was physically limited, it just
575
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:21,679
wasn't the same.
576
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,360
And he quickly drops the Von Erich name,
tells him you can't do the claw.
577
00:34:25,580 --> 00:34:29,139
His name is the Texas Tornado. And they
just call him the Texas Tornado. They
578
00:34:29,139 --> 00:34:32,239
didn't even call him Kerry Von Erich.
All he had going for him was that he was
579
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,239
Kerry Von Erich.
580
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,860
When he was there, things were going
down. I mean, it was not a secret things
581
00:34:40,860 --> 00:34:41,678
were going down.
582
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,380
He had, you know, a series of drug
-related issues.
583
00:34:44,620 --> 00:34:46,199
He was not happy at all.
584
00:34:46,500 --> 00:34:50,980
Kerry didn't handle the pain. Well,
you've seen, you know, he's always out
585
00:34:50,980 --> 00:34:54,639
rock and roll people and all. And I was
more of a family man, you know. It
586
00:34:54,639 --> 00:35:01,340
probably saved me. I know it saved me.
Kerry was doing drugs. You just knew it.
587
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,480
Once he went through the accident, they
immediately fill him up with all these
588
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,080
drugs. They got the painkillers in you,
and they got the pills they're giving
589
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,080
him.
590
00:35:09,140 --> 00:35:10,940
That was not a good path for him.
591
00:35:12,340 --> 00:35:16,260
Because of the drugs. He was on
probation at the time, and then he got
592
00:35:16,260 --> 00:35:17,260
again.
593
00:35:17,380 --> 00:35:20,680
And, you know, he was afraid because of
the probation violation that he was
594
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:25,420
going to go to jail this time. I
remember he went to his wife and said,
595
00:35:25,420 --> 00:35:28,820
to jail if you promise that when I come
out of jail you'll take me back. And she
596
00:35:28,820 --> 00:35:29,820
wouldn't promise him that.
597
00:35:30,350 --> 00:35:34,190
He talked about what Chris did in
glowing terms. It's like, can you
598
00:35:34,190 --> 00:35:37,710
guts it took to do what Chris did? You
know, I was like, that's pretty scary
599
00:35:37,710 --> 00:35:38,950
when you hear people saying that.
600
00:35:39,250 --> 00:35:40,750
He told me he was going to kill himself.
601
00:35:41,130 --> 00:35:43,450
I said, Kerry, you couldn't do that to
me.
602
00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:47,670
He said, what are we going to do then? I
said, we'll do something, but we sure
603
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:48,670
as hell ain't going to die.
604
00:35:49,370 --> 00:35:53,070
He said, I'll tell you what, Kerry,
let's, you and me, let's go to Alaska.
605
00:35:53,290 --> 00:35:57,490
Let's take our 44s and let's just get
charged by a polar bear. We got six
606
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,220
But I thought it would be good for me to
get along with Kerry, and there's no
607
00:36:01,220 --> 00:36:03,180
drug dealers up there, so it would be
great.
608
00:36:03,540 --> 00:36:06,200
I wish we'd have gone up there with our
.44s.
609
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:12,680
On the morning of February 17, 1993, the
same day Kerry was scheduled to be
610
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,560
indicted on drug charges, he took a
drive out to his father's ranch.
611
00:36:18,540 --> 00:36:20,840
Called Dad, and he said, can't talk,
busy.
612
00:36:21,060 --> 00:36:22,380
Well, he was pouring a driveway.
613
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,060
And I was going to tell him, Carrie's in
a bad way. He's headed out to your
614
00:36:26,060 --> 00:36:27,760
place and hold him for me until I get
there.
615
00:36:29,260 --> 00:36:32,480
I tried to call that a couple of times.
They could not get through.
616
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,140
Fritz was continuing on pouring
concrete.
617
00:36:35,900 --> 00:36:40,860
Carrie came, walked up, gave him a big
hug and said, Dad, I love you.
618
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:42,900
I really, really love you.
619
00:36:44,180 --> 00:36:47,160
Carrie got in the Jeep and took off in
the Jeep.
620
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,700
And so Dad's sitting in the house
wondering why Carrie's been out in the
621
00:36:51,700 --> 00:36:52,488
so long.
622
00:36:52,490 --> 00:36:55,090
He said he went and looked, and his
pistol was gone.
623
00:36:55,770 --> 00:36:57,950
A .44 he'd given down for Father's Day.
624
00:36:58,610 --> 00:37:02,310
And when he went down, there was a clear
-out area down there, and he saw the
625
00:37:02,310 --> 00:37:03,069
Jeep part.
626
00:37:03,070 --> 00:37:04,990
With one glove laying on the seat.
627
00:37:05,730 --> 00:37:10,430
So he knew then what was happening. He
had taken the glove, the shooting hand.
628
00:37:10,790 --> 00:37:13,250
Fred said he walked back. There was a
little row of trees.
629
00:37:13,630 --> 00:37:14,630
And there Kerry was.
630
00:37:16,430 --> 00:37:19,290
He seemed dead.
631
00:37:19,810 --> 00:37:20,990
Shot himself in the heart.
632
00:37:22,030 --> 00:37:25,490
When I was beginning to pile up, he just
couldn't take it anymore.
633
00:37:26,290 --> 00:37:29,930
Dad found him and he said he'd never
seen such a peaceful look on Kerry's
634
00:37:30,170 --> 00:37:31,430
It was to hit him just right.
635
00:37:32,610 --> 00:37:37,190
Kevin said the one thing one time almost
made me cry. He said, I used to have
636
00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:39,430
five brothers, and now I'm not even a
brother.
637
00:37:40,210 --> 00:37:43,470
Over all of that, Fritz and Doris had
split up.
638
00:37:43,930 --> 00:37:47,870
I thought my dad was taking it like a
soldier, you know. My mom was really
639
00:37:47,870 --> 00:37:50,870
getting hit, though, and she blamed him.
640
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:52,600
It was bad.
641
00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:57,740
The last ten years of his life was not a
picture of what I would call hell.
642
00:37:58,380 --> 00:38:01,820
You would have never thought that he
would have outlived five of his six
643
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,380
Dad, could you tell the story, though,
of that day when Granddad pointed that
644
00:38:07,380 --> 00:38:08,238
gun at you?
645
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:11,780
No, when he got older, he had brain
cancer. It was not making sense, some
646
00:38:11,780 --> 00:38:13,560
he said. He was questioning God.
647
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:17,760
Well, he got that gun out, and he
pointed the gun at me, and he said,
648
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,980
yourself, too, if you had the guts.
649
00:38:19,420 --> 00:38:22,400
I said, Dad, it takes guts to live, not
guts to die.
650
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,660
And he pointed the gun at me. He said,
you're afraid, aren't you? And I said,
651
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:27,720
no, sir.
652
00:38:28,060 --> 00:38:31,100
You've got to remember, there's brain
cancer involved, and I didn't know if he
653
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:32,100
was going to shoot me or not.
654
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,220
I said, Dad, quit pointing the gun at
me.
655
00:38:35,740 --> 00:38:37,520
I said, quit pointing the gun at me.
656
00:38:37,940 --> 00:38:40,960
And I jumped out the door because I
could see he's thinking.
657
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,660
I'm not going to let cancer decide if I
live or die.
658
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,980
You know what? I was glad he died.
659
00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:49,140
I want him to quit suffering.
660
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:55,180
He had Sam suffer too much. What a good
man he was. Way deserved better than
661
00:38:55,180 --> 00:38:56,180
that.
662
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,200
What a good man.
663
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:09,380
Not only have I lost a brother, I lost
664
00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:10,700
all of them.
665
00:39:11,180 --> 00:39:15,080
And there's talk about there being a
curse on the family, you know.
666
00:39:15,630 --> 00:39:17,350
It was so ridiculous, you know, curse.
667
00:39:17,870 --> 00:39:22,030
What happened is just terrible, just a
terrible thing, but no curse.
668
00:39:24,090 --> 00:39:27,170
So what happened with you after this? I
mean, obviously you went through a
669
00:39:27,170 --> 00:39:28,570
really difficult period yourself.
670
00:39:28,910 --> 00:39:35,890
I thought I was doing my best, and I
was, but I was mad. And there was a time
671
00:39:35,890 --> 00:39:39,890
thought that I wanted to die, you know,
I wanted to be dead.
672
00:39:40,170 --> 00:39:44,250
And I knew I wasn't going to kill
myself, but I just wanted to fight
673
00:39:44,750 --> 00:39:46,690
And prison felt like the perfect thing
for me.
674
00:39:46,970 --> 00:39:51,750
I was going to steal a gun because I
knew how much people hate guns. If I
675
00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:53,030
one, that's prison.
676
00:39:53,250 --> 00:39:58,110
Lo and behold, I tried it in a Lubbock
gun store with a bunch of good old Texas
677
00:39:58,110 --> 00:39:59,110
men in there.
678
00:40:00,370 --> 00:40:03,990
I went to steal that gun, and that old
man on the stop was looking right at me,
679
00:40:04,130 --> 00:40:07,050
put it down my pants, and a stiff leg
walked out of there.
680
00:40:08,510 --> 00:40:11,030
I stopped and looked at him like, you
got something to say?
681
00:40:11,870 --> 00:40:15,450
That's when he just looked at me like an
old man. Didn't say anything for a long
682
00:40:15,450 --> 00:40:16,530
time. Just looked at me.
683
00:40:17,470 --> 00:40:19,330
And I looked right into his eyes.
684
00:40:20,230 --> 00:40:22,130
He said, love you, Kev.
685
00:40:23,530 --> 00:40:24,530
Oh, man.
686
00:40:24,970 --> 00:40:27,250
I said, thank you, sir.
687
00:40:28,130 --> 00:40:29,450
And I went out to my car.
688
00:40:30,910 --> 00:40:33,670
And I just thought about the magnitude
of what just happened.
689
00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:36,210
And I came back in that store.
690
00:40:36,970 --> 00:40:40,290
Gave him his rifle and hugged him. I
said, I love you, too, sir.
691
00:40:41,020 --> 00:40:44,500
And all those other men were in there.
Man, it was a great day for Texas.
692
00:40:45,180 --> 00:40:46,460
Great day for Von Erich.
693
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,620
I needed that so bad.
694
00:40:49,140 --> 00:40:51,540
I wanted life to get as bad as it could
be.
695
00:40:54,460 --> 00:40:56,100
Anyway, I'm so glad it's over.
696
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:57,600
Saved me.
697
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,780
You want to see the story I was telling
you about? Yeah.
698
00:41:20,940 --> 00:41:23,020
This is my desk, my office.
699
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,520
My lazy boy lounger here.
700
00:41:28,260 --> 00:41:29,560
How often are you here?
701
00:41:30,260 --> 00:41:31,260
Every day?
702
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,040
I try to.
703
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,920
If I can, I get here every day. I do try
to do that.
704
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,260
I wouldn't trade it for anything in the
world. The peace I've ever had before.
705
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,220
The more alone...
706
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:54,840
You get, the more close you feel to God,
it seems like to me. If I'm scuba
707
00:41:54,840 --> 00:42:00,120
diving at night on the bottom of the
ocean, I love to turn my light off and
708
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,560
lay on the bottom. I feel like, I think
you're far away. You know, you're never,
709
00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:08,780
oh, God is right with me. I feel it. I
do love it.
710
00:42:12,140 --> 00:42:13,140
Hey, baby.
711
00:42:13,340 --> 00:42:14,340
Hey, you.
712
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:18,960
Kevin's kids, I've met them all.
713
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,800
and they have beautiful kids now.
714
00:42:21,900 --> 00:42:25,280
What I sought for all my life was to be
peaceful, and here I am.
715
00:42:25,620 --> 00:42:26,620
Thank you, Lord.
716
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,020
I've never been so happy and peaceful.
717
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,860
There's always kids playing here.
718
00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:34,980
It's the highest and best use for the
land, for sure.
719
00:42:36,420 --> 00:42:41,240
He's been through so much chaos and
stuff, and so for him to end up in this
720
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:45,240
of just peaceful environment, you know,
with the animals and everything, he's
721
00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:48,440
just like so at home and just so, you
know.
722
00:42:48,940 --> 00:42:49,940
He loves it.
723
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,220
I'm lucky in a way that I've found that
the only thing that lasts is family.
724
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,700
You see Ross, and you see a little bit
of Kerry.
725
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:08,460
And you see Marshall, and you see the
athleticism of Kevin, and you see that
726
00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:09,460
body of Dave.
727
00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:14,640
And then in both of them, you see Devon
Eric.
728
00:43:15,420 --> 00:43:17,880
And so, hey, who knows?
729
00:43:18,410 --> 00:43:19,570
Maybe the story will continue.
730
00:43:21,210 --> 00:43:25,310
Kevin officially retired on July the
17th, 2017.
731
00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:32,110
Wrestling his last match alongside his
two sons in Israel, where the Von Erich
732
00:43:32,110 --> 00:43:35,290
family name is celebrated to this day.
733
00:43:37,090 --> 00:43:42,410
You know, I've seen huge crowds. I've
been a guest of honor. I've been, you
734
00:43:42,410 --> 00:43:43,249
know, a celebrity.
735
00:43:43,250 --> 00:43:45,030
I've done what everybody thinks they
want.
736
00:43:45,550 --> 00:43:46,690
I've had all that.
737
00:43:47,530 --> 00:43:48,830
It's not satisfying.
738
00:43:49,090 --> 00:43:50,090
Is this all there is?
739
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:57,230
What is satisfying is dinner with the
family, children laughing, real joy.
740
00:43:57,970 --> 00:43:58,970
That's the truth.
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