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So, we're looking for star potential.
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- Oh, wow.
- Yeah. So this is the room.
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You'll be sitting here at this desk.
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The singers are gonna come
into this room one at a time,
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and this is sort of
where they need to stand.
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- Okay.
- And they'll be singing
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from a list of public domain songs
we gave them.
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- Right.
- And that's just so...
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we don't have to pay the licensing rights
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for the song. It just saves us money.
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And then right away,
I just make my decision
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- at that moment.
- Yes.
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These are the tickets you give out
if you want someone to move on.
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You know, we really want
the best of the best,
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so you can't be
giving these out to anyone.
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- The standard should be star potential.
- Okay.
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That's what I was told
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- when I did it.
- What's star potential?
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Star potential is someone that you think
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- could be a star.
- Okay.
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Anyone that doesn't meet that threshold,
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you have to deliver the news
that they will not be moving on.
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You know, for a lot of these people,
they're coming in,
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and they feel like
their dreams are in your hands.
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You're delivering this hard news.
You're saying no to someone.
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You need to, you know,
assert yourself in that way.
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Are you okay with,
like, delivering bad news, or...
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Just life.
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When I was 23,
I got my first job in television
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as a junior producer
for Canadian Idol...
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Idol!
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The Canadian version of American Idol.
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The celebrity judges
you see on TV don't have time
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to consider everyone that shows up
to these auditions.
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So, what they don't show you
is that all the singers
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are first led into tiny rooms off camera
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where junior producers
like myself were tasked
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with thinning the herd,
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eliminating anyone
that didn't have star potential.
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All day long,
I told people no to their face.
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Some took the news okay, but many did not.
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They broke down in front of me, crying,
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pleading for another chance.
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But no matter what,
I had to hold my ground.
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It was a brutal experience for me.
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Every morning, I woke up
in a new Canadian hotel room,
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dreading what I would have to do.
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When you know that whatever you say
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is going to devastate
the person across from you,
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it makes you not want
to say anything at all.
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I was becoming convinced
that this was the reason
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some co-pilots have trouble
saying no to their captain.
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They just can't imagine a way
for the interaction to go well.
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But I've always wondered
if it could be done differently,
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to have someone leave feeling good.
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I could never figure out how to do this.
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But maybe there was a co-pilot
out there who could.
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Down in New Orleans
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I recruited a sampling of first officers
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from all the major U.S. airlines
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to participate
in a massive experimental study.
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All these co-pilots
had one unique quality
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that made them special.
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None of them have died in a plane crash,
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which meant there's a chance
that at least one of them
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may have unknowingly cracked the code
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to speaking up to a captain
without making them upset.
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Wings of Voice!
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I hoped this could be revealed
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with an aviation-themed
singing competition
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where any and all aspiring singers
from across the country
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were invited to apply.
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It's not a singing TV show,
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it's actually a singing competition
as part of another TV show
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that has nothing to do with singing.
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- Okay.
- Oh, cool!
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- Yeah. So...
- Is there like a prize at the end
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or kind of what's the setup with it?
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Okay, so the winner will get to sing
a song of our choice
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on national television
with a full backing band...
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- Oh, sick.
- ...in a partial recreation
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of the Houston Airport.
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- Wow.
- Wow.
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Sounds amazing.
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O'er the land of the free
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And the home of the brave
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That was great.
Unfortunately, you're not moving on.
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- Okay.
- Thank you for your time.
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You did good, baby. You did good.
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You did good, you did good. You did great.
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I'm always proud of you.
I'm always proud of you.
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I had really done it.
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I had brought Canadian Idol back to life.
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- I love you.
- I love you, too.
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Because the experience can be so brutal,
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I found some co-pilots
would try to get around
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upsetting the singers by giving out
endless golden tickets.
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So, yeah.
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Well, congratulations, you're moving on!
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Oh my goodness!
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It was a byproduct
of this being a real competition.
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- Congrats.
- Thank you.
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But ultimately,
this was all about rejections.
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Hey, I was a little surprised
about that one.
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Yeah.
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You feel she was good?
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- Yeah.
- Yeah.
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You've sort of given
a golden ticket to everyone?
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I know, I know, I know.
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That's why I was like, okay, okay.
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We only want to give
to the best, remember?
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- The best, all right, the best.
- Yeah.
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You do have to do
the hard work of saying no.
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- All right. I got you.
- Yeah. Okay, great.
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Okay.
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The holy grail I was looking for
was a method of rejection
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that left everyone happy.
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Amazing grace, how sweet the sound
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It was fascinating
to watch the different ways
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these co-pilots would say no to people.
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You're doing great, buddy.
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Just keep focusing on
the donut and not the hole.
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That's what they always told me.
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But I was curious to see
which of these techniques
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would make the singers feel the best.
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Sorry, thanks for coming.
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People are very good
at hiding their true emotions.
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That's why I didn't want
to evaluate anything
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by the singers' faces.
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Hi, would you be willing
to rate your judge?
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- Yeah.
- Okay, thank you.
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So, I put ballot boxes
outside of each room
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so after every rejection, the singers
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could rate their co-pilot's likability
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on a scale from one to ten.
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- Thanks.
- Thanks.
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- Have a good one.
- You too.
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After a day of heartbreak and tears,
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me and my Canadian Idol colleagues
would go to a local bar to unwind.
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I found that talking to people
who were going
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through the same thing as you
helped me realize
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that it wasn't so weird what I was doing.
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So, I wanted this experience
for the co-pilots too.
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And it was important enough
that I had the bar I owned
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transported once again across state lines
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and added to my Los Angeles set
of the Houston Airport.
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Well, that was fast.
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- Yeah, thanks a lot.
- Awesome.
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These people are gonna think
I'm so mean, but...
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- It is. It is.
- Yeah.
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And she just started crying,
and I was like,
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"I'm sorry."
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- Did you have a crier?
- I had one crier.
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- I'm so sorry.
- And I was like, "Oh no!"
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But when I started going
through the singers' ratings,
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I was surprised by how likable they found
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these co-pilots.
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One co-pilot, a first officer
from Southwest Airlines
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named Mara'D,
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had an average score of over nine,
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which seems suspiciously high.
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Thank you so much. I like your rendition.
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- I like the change.
- Thank you.
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I think for me, it's not quite
the sound we're looking for today.
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When I looked at her footage,
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nothing she was doing
seemed that notable to me.
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I am going to pass today.
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But people, for some reason,
were leaving happy.
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I was starting to wonder
if these L.A. singers
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were just a different breed
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than the ones I used to reject
back in Canada.
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Maybe they were just so used to hearing no
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that it didn't affect them.
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So, I decided to sit in for a bit
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and see for myself.
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Amazing grace
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How sweet...
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It was cool to be back
in the seat again.
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I felt like I was in my element.
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So, there... you know, there's a lot of...
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Like, I'm not gonna be able
to put you through to the next round...
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- For sure.
- ...because there's a lot of,
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you know, people coming in.
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So, sorry about that.
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Sure, you're the judge.
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I just put forth
my best performance, so...
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Okay, you did good. Thanks.
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Okay. Thank you.
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Confrontation is... is not...
doesn't come naturally to me at all.
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I mean, you're doing something right.
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You're delivering bad news to these people
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and they are leaving happy about it.
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I mean, I don't understand how that works.
I'm happy to hear that.
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Do you have a technique
that you're doing or...
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No. Look, not really.
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- Should I?
- No, no, I don't know.
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- Okay.
- I mean, I don't know what it is,
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but yeah, okay.
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Well, keep going.
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- Yeah, okay.
- Okay.
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I decided to spend
some time watching Mara'D
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to see if there was anything
I was missing.
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- Hi!
- Hi. How are you?
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- I'm good, how are you?
- I'm fantastic.
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And the only thing
that really jumped out to me
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was how often
she used the word "fantastic."
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Hello, how are you?
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- Hi, I'm well, and yourself?
- Fantastic.
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- Your volume control is fantastic.
- Thank you.
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You have an absolutely beautiful voice.
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- Thank you.
- Fantastic voice.
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It's not quite the right sound,
but your sound is fantastic.
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So, for the next singers that came in,
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I adjusted my approach.
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- Hi.
- Hi.
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- Hi, I'm Austin.
- Fantastic.
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- All right.
- All right.
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What are you gonna be singing today?
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So, "The Star-Spangled Banner."
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- Fantastic.
- Yeah.
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Okay, whenever you're ready.
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And the home
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Of the brave
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- Wow, fantastic.
- Great.
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I'm gonna have to say no for today.
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- Okay. Okay.
- But that was so good.
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Thank you.
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But yeah, great stuff.
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- Okay.
- Good stuff.
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All right. Well, thank you so much.
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- Thank you.
- And, yeah.
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- Thanks again for the opportunity.
- Yeah. Fantastic.
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- What is your name?
- Adore.
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Adore, that's beautiful.
What are you singing today?
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- What's your name?
- My name is Darian.
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Darian, beautiful. What's your name?
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- My name is Isabella.
- Isabella, beautiful.
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- What's your name?
- My name is Danny.
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- Danny, that's beautiful.
- Thank you.
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Hey, the last couple of guys
who were in my room,
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are they still here?
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Do you know... if they're still here?
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Hey, this is Nathan from Wings of Voice.
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Have you left yet?
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If you're still close,
do you wanna come back for a sec?
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I just had a quick question.
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- Thanks for coming back.
- Yeah, of course.
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I was just curious as to why you gave me
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such a low score.
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I don't know. I was just like,
I was nervous
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and I didn't know really
what was happening.
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I showed him a video of Mara'D
and told him people loved her,
253
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even though she delivered them
all bad news.
254
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'Cause I said a lot of the same things
255
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like she did and... but she would get,
256
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you know, she gets pretty high ratings.
257
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So like, what's the difference?
What do you think?
258
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She just... I think that
she just kind of came off
259
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a little bit more...
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I don't know what word to use.
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The way that she did everything,
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the way that she was, just her aura,
her general aura, I would say.
263
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- Okay. Her aura.
- Yeah.
264
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And how do you change that?
265
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I don't know, I don't think that it's...
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- I mean, I really don't know.
- Okay.
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I don't know if that's, like, you know,
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I don't know if that's...
you can really control like
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what your natural energy is, you know?
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- All right, well, thank you for...
- Okay.
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- Yeah, thank you for that.
- Yeah.
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Even though it was hard to hear,
I disagreed with this man.
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I believe that any human quality
can be learned,
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or at least emulated.
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Sometimes, it just takes time.
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- Hey.
- Hey.
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- How's it going?
- Good.
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But the more I got to know Mara'D,
279
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the more I learned
about her life in the cockpit.
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He was making
a lot of inappropriate jokes
281
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and whatnot. You know,
"Does your boyfriend satisfy you?"
282
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- Kind of weird questions.
- This is the captain saying this?
283
00:14:03,425 --> 00:14:05,803
- This is the captain.
- How do you respond to that?
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I would blow him off
or change the subject.
285
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Just kind of chuckle and just kind of,
286
00:14:10,099 --> 00:14:12,475
- you know, like, hope it goes away.
- Okay.
287
00:14:12,476 --> 00:14:14,894
I mean, at this point in my career,
I'm very skilled at that.
288
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It was a little more rough then, but...
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Holy crap.
290
00:14:17,982 --> 00:14:21,693
I was realizing I had still
never witnessed a real captain
291
00:14:21,694 --> 00:14:24,321
and first officer interacting
with each other.
292
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So, I invited some airline captains
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to join the first officers
at our nightly hangs at Nate's,
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as I was curious to see
how they got along.
295
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Okay.
296
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With the captains in the bar,
297
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the energy in the room seemed to change,
298
00:14:56,061 --> 00:14:57,687
but I couldn't tell what it meant.
299
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Is that the female pilot table over there?
300
00:15:00,107 --> 00:15:01,482
I see a bunch of female pilots.
301
00:15:01,483 --> 00:15:03,651
- I guess there are, yeah.
- I'm gonna talk to them.
302
00:15:03,652 --> 00:15:05,695
Mara'D got into a conversation
303
00:15:05,696 --> 00:15:09,366
with a captain named Jeff,
who worked for American Airlines.
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I got hired in 2013, and I've been there
305
00:15:12,411 --> 00:15:13,870
- for about 11 years.
- Right on.
306
00:15:13,871 --> 00:15:17,123
Yeah. So, life could be worse, right?
307
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- You wide body or narrow?
- Narrow. Airbus.
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00:15:19,585 --> 00:15:20,668
- Okay.
- Yeah.
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00:15:20,669 --> 00:15:22,921
But I couldn't tell
from watching any of this
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if captains were aware
of how hard it can be
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for their co-pilots to speak their mind.
312
00:15:28,802 --> 00:15:31,555
So, when I invited Jeff
to sit down for a chat,
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I was surprised when he claimed
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that he was the one who felt the pressure
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to stay silent.
316
00:15:37,144 --> 00:15:40,063
I mean, you know,
especially being a male captain
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and a female first officer,
you always have to also kind of,
318
00:15:43,776 --> 00:15:45,693
you know, walk on eggshells or whatever,
319
00:15:45,694 --> 00:15:47,029
- if you will because you...
- Why?
320
00:15:47,154 --> 00:15:49,782
Because something you may think
is a joke and try to be funny,
321
00:15:50,324 --> 00:15:52,450
- she might get offended by, right?
- Sure, yeah.
322
00:15:52,451 --> 00:15:54,577
You know, I've been doing this
for a long time. I feel like...
323
00:15:54,578 --> 00:15:57,330
I'm not a psychologist, but I feel like
I know how to read the room pretty well.
324
00:15:57,331 --> 00:15:59,791
- Doing what for a long time?
- Just, well, flying.
325
00:15:59,792 --> 00:16:01,209
- Not only flying but also just...
- Yeah.
326
00:16:01,210 --> 00:16:04,003
...like interacting with people,
being single.
327
00:16:04,004 --> 00:16:06,840
I've been banned from pretty much
every dating app known to man.
328
00:16:07,716 --> 00:16:09,300
- Banned?
- They kick you off...
329
00:16:09,301 --> 00:16:10,843
- For what?
- They don't give you reasons.
330
00:16:10,844 --> 00:16:13,180
So like,
I've been banned from Tinder,
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00:16:13,389 --> 00:16:15,265
Hinge, Bumble.
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00:16:15,808 --> 00:16:19,602
And I think that's it. And Seeking...
333
00:16:19,603 --> 00:16:22,730
Seeking Arrangements,
it's where you go meet girls
334
00:16:22,731 --> 00:16:24,692
that are looking for, like, more like...
335
00:16:25,109 --> 00:16:26,776
like a mutually beneficial arrangement.
336
00:16:26,777 --> 00:16:30,196
How is that even possible,
to be banned from so many sites?
337
00:16:30,197 --> 00:16:31,990
You don't have to do anything illegal.
338
00:16:31,991 --> 00:16:34,367
It could just be like you offended someone
339
00:16:34,368 --> 00:16:35,702
based on something you said.
340
00:16:35,703 --> 00:16:37,120
- Sure.
- I don't remember saying
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00:16:37,121 --> 00:16:38,372
anything too offensive.
342
00:16:38,497 --> 00:16:40,248
- I just don't know, right?
- You don't know?
343
00:16:40,249 --> 00:16:42,000
They don't give you a reason of why.
344
00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:43,710
So, you have no clue why you got banned?
345
00:16:43,711 --> 00:16:45,421
No. I got kicked off of Instagram too.
346
00:16:46,547 --> 00:16:47,881
For like three months.
347
00:16:48,257 --> 00:16:51,677
If a captain can be banned
from five different dating apps
348
00:16:51,802 --> 00:16:54,137
and still not know what he's done wrong...
349
00:16:54,138 --> 00:16:55,722
They don't believe
in second chances either.
350
00:16:55,723 --> 00:16:58,599
I tried to sign up with
my mom's phone number and stuff,
351
00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,270
but Bumble has an algorithm, I think,
where it recognizes your photos.
352
00:17:02,271 --> 00:17:04,230
...it might be the perfect opportunity
353
00:17:04,231 --> 00:17:07,483
to see if something emerges
in a cockpit scenario
354
00:17:07,484 --> 00:17:10,237
that would reveal Mara'D's special talent.
355
00:17:10,362 --> 00:17:13,323
All right, so yeah,
you guys can just do your thing,
356
00:17:13,532 --> 00:17:17,410
- and I'll be watching.
- All right. Sounds good.
357
00:17:17,411 --> 00:17:19,788
- Generators one and two.
- On.
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00:17:19,913 --> 00:17:21,456
- Probe heat.
- Auto.
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00:17:21,457 --> 00:17:23,207
- Wing anti-ice.
- On.
360
00:17:23,208 --> 00:17:24,918
- Engine anti-ice.
- Auto.
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00:17:28,213 --> 00:17:30,340
- Positive rate.
- Landing gear up.
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00:17:30,924 --> 00:17:31,967
Gear up.
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00:17:32,217 --> 00:17:35,554
And JetLine 56, we are cleared ILS nine.
364
00:17:36,013 --> 00:17:40,392
Set maintain 2,000 feet,
turn left heading one-three-zero.
365
00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:44,646
Yeah, so...
366
00:17:48,484 --> 00:17:50,068
So, you've been five years flying, huh?
367
00:17:50,069 --> 00:17:51,360
- Seven-three?
- Yeah.
368
00:17:51,361 --> 00:17:53,113
- Five years on the seven-three.
- Wow.
369
00:17:53,655 --> 00:17:55,532
- You single?
- Yeah.
370
00:17:56,658 --> 00:17:57,909
Married before?
371
00:17:57,910 --> 00:18:00,204
- No. Never married.
- No? Wow.
372
00:18:00,454 --> 00:18:01,914
- No kids?
- Nope, no kids.
373
00:18:02,206 --> 00:18:03,373
Wow.
374
00:18:03,665 --> 00:18:06,251
- Is it hard, dating?
- I don't date.
375
00:18:06,460 --> 00:18:07,878
- You don't date?
- No.
376
00:18:08,045 --> 00:18:10,839
But when Jeff started asking
about her romantic life,
377
00:18:10,964 --> 00:18:14,843
I couldn't tell if she was enjoying
this conversation or not.
378
00:18:16,095 --> 00:18:19,305
- You're just too picky?
- No, just, you know, ten years ago,
379
00:18:19,306 --> 00:18:23,726
it didn't work out with a situation,
and I really haven't wanted to.
380
00:18:23,727 --> 00:18:25,436
- I have a completely full life.
- So you're just,
381
00:18:25,437 --> 00:18:26,646
you're not dating or anything?
382
00:18:26,647 --> 00:18:28,356
- You're just celibate?
- No. Yeah.
383
00:18:28,357 --> 00:18:30,734
- Wow. That's crazy.
- Yep.
384
00:18:31,443 --> 00:18:32,569
Yep.
385
00:18:33,570 --> 00:18:36,156
It can be like that.
386
00:18:36,323 --> 00:18:39,576
If she was trying to steer Jeff away
from this topic,
387
00:18:39,701 --> 00:18:41,077
he wasn't getting the hint.
388
00:18:41,078 --> 00:18:44,581
I should hook you up with my dad.
He's been celibate for like four years.
389
00:18:45,833 --> 00:18:47,416
- No, I'm good.
- I tried to sign my dad up
390
00:18:47,417 --> 00:18:49,252
- on eHarmony...
- But what I was witnessing
391
00:18:49,253 --> 00:18:52,880
between Mara'D and this captain
felt eerily similar
392
00:18:52,881 --> 00:18:56,592
to a situation in my own life,
where I couldn't figure out
393
00:18:56,593 --> 00:19:00,013
the right way to express my true feelings.
394
00:19:00,347 --> 00:19:01,389
"Deny nothing."
395
00:19:01,390 --> 00:19:04,226
- That's our slogan.
- Yeah. I love that.
396
00:19:04,351 --> 00:19:07,020
I'd gotten in the habit
of giving away jackets,
397
00:19:07,146 --> 00:19:10,983
sweatshirts, and socks
to the pilots I've been working with.
398
00:19:11,108 --> 00:19:13,609
You can wear them to bed too.
Like pajamas, too,
399
00:19:13,610 --> 00:19:14,902
- if it's cold.
- Yeah.
400
00:19:14,903 --> 00:19:17,446
This brand had a special meaning to me
401
00:19:17,447 --> 00:19:19,240
as it began a decade ago
402
00:19:19,241 --> 00:19:21,410
as part of a comedy series I used to make
403
00:19:21,869 --> 00:19:23,495
called Nathan For You.
404
00:19:23,871 --> 00:19:25,246
As part of the show,
405
00:19:25,247 --> 00:19:28,916
I launched a real outdoor
apparel line called Summit Ice
406
00:19:28,917 --> 00:19:33,505
that has gone on to raise millions
of dollars for Holocaust awareness.
407
00:19:34,256 --> 00:19:36,382
It's been my proudest achievement
408
00:19:36,383 --> 00:19:39,135
and served as my only proof
to these pilots
409
00:19:39,136 --> 00:19:42,514
that a comedy show
can actually make a difference.
410
00:19:42,764 --> 00:19:45,558
These things that start off
as like maybe a little silly
411
00:19:45,559 --> 00:19:48,687
can actually have an impact
in the world so...
412
00:19:48,812 --> 00:19:50,104
It does. It really does.
413
00:19:50,105 --> 00:19:52,900
But this is where
the story gets complicated.
414
00:19:54,151 --> 00:19:55,694
Okay, sit here.
415
00:19:56,737 --> 00:19:59,239
So, I was at the computer just like this.
416
00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:02,242
And this is my exact correspondence.
417
00:20:02,701 --> 00:20:05,120
Okay, so I want you to type
the same words I did.
418
00:20:05,454 --> 00:20:06,455
Okay.
419
00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:11,834
In late 2023, I discovered
that the episode of Nathan For You
420
00:20:11,835 --> 00:20:15,630
featuring the Summit Ice story
mysteriously went missing
421
00:20:15,631 --> 00:20:18,300
from the Paramount Plus streaming service.
422
00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:21,845
It's season three, episode two.
423
00:20:22,387 --> 00:20:25,015
You can see right there, it's gone.
424
00:20:26,308 --> 00:20:30,603
But everything I did after that point
wasn't captured on camera.
425
00:20:30,604 --> 00:20:33,982
Are you supposed to be at home,
or in the office?
426
00:20:35,150 --> 00:20:36,651
I don't remember where I was,
427
00:20:36,652 --> 00:20:39,821
but it could've been one of those. Yeah.
428
00:20:42,282 --> 00:20:43,282
Okay.
429
00:20:43,283 --> 00:20:45,910
Which was frustrating,
because my headspace
430
00:20:45,911 --> 00:20:47,870
in that moment might be the key
431
00:20:47,871 --> 00:20:51,208
to understanding
how to get through to a captain.
432
00:20:54,253 --> 00:20:57,672
I wrote an email
to some contacts I had at Paramount,
433
00:20:57,673 --> 00:21:00,842
asking them why the episode was removed.
434
00:21:02,094 --> 00:21:03,929
The thing that made this tricky was,
435
00:21:04,054 --> 00:21:07,599
Paramount is currently airing
a different series of mine,
436
00:21:08,058 --> 00:21:11,186
a scripted drama
that hadn't yet been renewed.
437
00:21:11,853 --> 00:21:15,357
How I spoke to them
could have career repercussions,
438
00:21:15,482 --> 00:21:17,734
just like it did for co-pilots.
439
00:21:20,362 --> 00:21:24,116
I remember wanting to convey
how urgent this was for me.
440
00:21:24,658 --> 00:21:28,161
And yet, my email
was extremely cordial,
441
00:21:28,412 --> 00:21:33,250
using phrases like "forever grateful"
and "happy holidays."
442
00:21:38,547 --> 00:21:40,756
The network confirmed in their response
443
00:21:40,757 --> 00:21:43,051
that it was taken down intentionally
444
00:21:43,218 --> 00:21:46,471
and gave me
a one-word explanation as to why.
445
00:21:47,180 --> 00:21:48,640
"Sensitivities."
446
00:21:50,142 --> 00:21:51,893
How does that response make you feel?
447
00:21:56,148 --> 00:21:57,190
Frustrated.
448
00:21:59,234 --> 00:22:01,903
Right, yeah. I think I felt that way too.
449
00:22:04,573 --> 00:22:05,991
Okay, now type my reply.
450
00:22:06,450 --> 00:22:09,995
I was frustrated, but my reply, again,
451
00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:12,789
didn't communicate my level of concern.
452
00:22:13,623 --> 00:22:16,542
I used three friendly exclamation points
453
00:22:16,543 --> 00:22:18,879
in just two sentences.
454
00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:22,132
What was I so worried about?
455
00:22:26,219 --> 00:22:28,847
I think you didn't want to be too pushy.
456
00:22:29,348 --> 00:22:30,599
Which was strange
457
00:22:30,724 --> 00:22:34,269
because I remembered
my emails being very pushy.
458
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,981
But I'll never forget exactly where I was
459
00:22:38,982 --> 00:22:41,318
when I finally learned the truth.
460
00:22:42,194 --> 00:22:44,737
What I discovered was so shocking
461
00:22:44,738 --> 00:22:48,700
a tornado of emotions
began spinning inside my body.
462
00:22:49,785 --> 00:22:52,536
The email said in late 2023,
463
00:22:52,537 --> 00:22:55,581
a decision was made
by Paramount Plus Germany
464
00:22:55,582 --> 00:22:57,751
to remove the episode in their region
465
00:22:57,876 --> 00:23:00,753
after they became uncomfortable
with what they called,
466
00:23:00,754 --> 00:23:03,465
"Anything that touches on antisemitism
467
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,594
in the aftermath
of the Israel-Hamas attacks."
468
00:23:08,345 --> 00:23:09,763
But it didn't stop there.
469
00:23:10,722 --> 00:23:13,391
This act by Germany
triggered the attention
470
00:23:13,392 --> 00:23:16,269
of other European Paramount branches,
471
00:23:16,478 --> 00:23:19,356
and they in turn pulled the episode too.
472
00:23:20,273 --> 00:23:24,402
Before long, the ideology
of Paramount Plus Germany
473
00:23:24,403 --> 00:23:26,696
had spread to the entire globe,
474
00:23:26,905 --> 00:23:30,826
eliminating all Jewish content
that made them uncomfortable.
475
00:23:31,868 --> 00:23:33,412
This is real, by the way.
476
00:23:34,454 --> 00:23:39,167
Currently, on the Paramount app,
there are 50 results for "Nazi,"
477
00:23:39,626 --> 00:23:43,296
ten for "Hitler," and zero for "Judaism."
478
00:23:46,299 --> 00:23:47,634
We've been erased.
479
00:23:50,011 --> 00:23:53,640
I wanted to urge Paramount
to reconsider their decision.
480
00:23:54,349 --> 00:23:57,352
But what could I say
that wouldn't annoy them?
481
00:24:00,188 --> 00:24:02,107
That's what I was worried about.
482
00:24:02,858 --> 00:24:06,027
That's what I was thinking about
in the shower that day.
483
00:24:07,779 --> 00:24:08,989
I remember now.
484
00:24:13,076 --> 00:24:15,495
Why did I expect them to get the hint
485
00:24:15,829 --> 00:24:18,623
when I didn't even say what I really felt?
486
00:24:19,291 --> 00:24:20,375
Here you go.
487
00:24:22,002 --> 00:24:23,335
But if the right girl came along,
488
00:24:23,336 --> 00:24:25,421
- I would definitely wife her up.
- Yeah.
489
00:24:25,422 --> 00:24:27,214
If she was okay with non-monogamy.
490
00:24:27,215 --> 00:24:29,301
Okay. Yeah.
491
00:24:29,509 --> 00:24:32,804
But unlike me, who stopped
communicating altogether,
492
00:24:33,054 --> 00:24:35,890
Mara'D kept engaging with her captain.
493
00:24:35,891 --> 00:24:37,559
Lots of beautiful Latina women there.
494
00:24:37,726 --> 00:24:38,934
- Right on.
- Right.
495
00:24:38,935 --> 00:24:41,229
I need to brush up
on my español a little bit.
496
00:24:41,646 --> 00:24:42,855
- Yeah.
- That's cool.
497
00:24:42,856 --> 00:24:45,107
Yeah, I mean, I downloaded
that Duolingo app.
498
00:24:45,108 --> 00:24:46,817
- Yeah.
- Yeah, I've been practicing.
499
00:24:46,818 --> 00:24:48,402
- Right on.
- Acting interested
500
00:24:48,403 --> 00:24:51,573
in his perspective,
whether she agreed with it or not.
501
00:24:52,032 --> 00:24:53,866
Gotta impress
all these girls all the time.
502
00:24:53,867 --> 00:24:56,660
- Wining and dining 'em, you know?
- Poor thing. You want kids someday?
503
00:24:56,661 --> 00:24:58,621
- One day, yeah.
- You gonna keep them alive?
504
00:24:58,622 --> 00:25:00,372
I'll try. Well, I'm gonna hire a nanny.
505
00:25:00,373 --> 00:25:02,959
And when she eventually did shut him down,
506
00:25:03,126 --> 00:25:05,754
it felt like there was no tension at all.
507
00:25:05,879 --> 00:25:07,588
I'm aiming to retire at 60.
508
00:25:07,589 --> 00:25:09,673
Financially, I can retire at 60 right now.
509
00:25:09,674 --> 00:25:12,052
How many years you got left,
if you don't mind me asking?
510
00:25:12,844 --> 00:25:15,554
Not enough. I don't... Or too many.
I don't know, depends on the day.
511
00:25:15,555 --> 00:25:17,890
- I'm not gonna try to guess.
- I'm not gonna answer.
512
00:25:17,891 --> 00:25:20,393
- You're not gonna answer? Okay.
- No, we're not answering that.
513
00:25:21,770 --> 00:25:23,854
I couldn't tell if this was a strategy
514
00:25:23,855 --> 00:25:25,899
or what I was even looking at.
515
00:25:26,650 --> 00:25:28,609
But maybe there was more I could try
516
00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:31,696
with my captain to get my point heard.
517
00:25:36,034 --> 00:25:39,578
I didn't know what the Paramount Plus
Germany offices looked like,
518
00:25:39,579 --> 00:25:41,706
so I sort of had to take a guess.
519
00:25:45,877 --> 00:25:49,005
I tried to make the environment
feel hostile to me,
520
00:25:49,214 --> 00:25:53,468
as a reminder to not go soft on them
like I did in my emails.
521
00:25:58,098 --> 00:26:00,559
Mr. Fielder, it's a pleasure.
522
00:26:00,684 --> 00:26:02,477
- Hi, nice to meet you.
- Yeah.
523
00:26:02,936 --> 00:26:06,815
So what brings you all this way
to our humble offices?
524
00:26:09,317 --> 00:26:10,359
How rude of me.
525
00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:12,320
Fritz, will you bring our guest some tea?
526
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,615
Hospitality is what separates us
from the animals.
527
00:26:16,616 --> 00:26:18,618
- Don't you agree?
- Sure.
528
00:26:19,411 --> 00:26:20,745
I guess I'll just get right to it.
529
00:26:21,121 --> 00:26:23,372
You guys removed
an episode of a TV show I made
530
00:26:23,373 --> 00:26:24,582
called Nathan For You,
531
00:26:24,583 --> 00:26:26,793
and I was told
the reason was sensitivities
532
00:26:27,002 --> 00:26:28,753
related to antisemitism.
533
00:26:29,129 --> 00:26:32,090
That's right.
It's something we take seriously.
534
00:26:32,882 --> 00:26:35,426
In Germany today, we have no tolerance
535
00:26:35,427 --> 00:26:39,222
for any images that may evoke hate
536
00:26:39,389 --> 00:26:43,642
or incite violence towards
any group of people. You know?
537
00:26:43,643 --> 00:26:45,729
But, look, I know you guys are...
538
00:26:46,396 --> 00:26:48,105
You know, probably feel a lot of shame
539
00:26:48,106 --> 00:26:49,481
about what you did in the past,
540
00:26:49,482 --> 00:26:51,025
and now you're trying to overcompensate
541
00:26:51,026 --> 00:26:54,236
by being the world leaders
in fighting antisemitism.
542
00:26:54,237 --> 00:26:58,742
But when it comes to art,
I think you have to know your place.
543
00:26:58,867 --> 00:27:01,493
And you have to let us Jews
express ourselves,
544
00:27:01,494 --> 00:27:02,786
because honestly,
545
00:27:02,787 --> 00:27:05,915
the way you're approaching
this whole thing, it...
546
00:27:06,207 --> 00:27:08,542
You know, people might get the wrong idea
547
00:27:08,543 --> 00:27:10,629
about what you actually stand for.
548
00:27:10,879 --> 00:27:12,129
I'm on your side,
549
00:27:12,130 --> 00:27:14,174
believe it or not,
we're on the same side.
550
00:27:14,299 --> 00:27:15,383
You take sugar?
551
00:27:17,761 --> 00:27:18,803
Sure.
552
00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:33,443
Okay, let's start over. Let's do it again.
553
00:27:33,735 --> 00:27:34,986
Let's do another one.
554
00:27:36,738 --> 00:27:39,908
- Want me to go out there, or...
- Yeah, you can start outside.
555
00:27:40,241 --> 00:27:43,662
But as I began rehearsing,
something felt off.
556
00:27:44,621 --> 00:27:46,539
Mr. Fielder. It's a pleasure.
557
00:27:47,374 --> 00:27:49,209
The actors were very good,
558
00:27:49,334 --> 00:27:51,293
but I felt they were being constrained
559
00:27:51,294 --> 00:27:53,170
by the direction I had given them.
560
00:27:53,171 --> 00:27:55,882
Fritz, will you bring
our guest some tea, please?
561
00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:59,302
Hospitality is what separates us
from the animals.
562
00:27:59,427 --> 00:28:00,470
Don't you agree?
563
00:28:04,516 --> 00:28:06,142
Try something else. Just...
564
00:28:07,352 --> 00:28:09,896
So, I encouraged them
to speak more freely,
565
00:28:10,355 --> 00:28:11,773
whatever came to their mind.
566
00:28:12,232 --> 00:28:13,732
Well, tell me this. Is there...
567
00:28:13,733 --> 00:28:16,236
Did you get any complaints
about the episode?
568
00:28:16,986 --> 00:28:20,281
If we did have complaints,
would you be open to hearing them?
569
00:28:20,782 --> 00:28:24,744
I mean, that's the reason I'm here,
is to understand your perspective.
570
00:28:25,286 --> 00:28:27,997
Yeah? I have a hard time believing that.
571
00:28:28,748 --> 00:28:31,459
Why? I'm here. I'm asking you questions.
572
00:28:32,043 --> 00:28:34,546
You designed this office
to look like a war room.
573
00:28:35,213 --> 00:28:37,215
Dressed me to look like a Nazi.
574
00:28:37,549 --> 00:28:39,467
- I mean...
- Pretending to want feedback,
575
00:28:39,592 --> 00:28:42,429
but you don't actually want to get
the Paramount Plus perspective
576
00:28:42,595 --> 00:28:44,180
or the German perspective.
577
00:28:47,058 --> 00:28:49,060
Look at you, pretending to be serious.
578
00:28:49,811 --> 00:28:50,937
This is not sincere.
579
00:28:52,147 --> 00:28:54,899
You're just a man with a grudge
580
00:28:55,358 --> 00:28:57,569
using his television show to smear us...
581
00:28:59,154 --> 00:29:01,656
instead of trying to understand us.
582
00:29:19,591 --> 00:29:22,844
I've always felt
that sincerity is overrated.
583
00:29:25,263 --> 00:29:27,264
It just ends up punishing those
584
00:29:27,265 --> 00:29:29,726
who can't perform it as well as others.
585
00:29:30,185 --> 00:29:33,104
Joe S, 7.02!
586
00:29:34,564 --> 00:29:38,443
Michael S, 7.17!
587
00:29:40,069 --> 00:29:41,613
8.03!
588
00:29:41,738 --> 00:29:43,573
- Wow.
- 7.25!
589
00:29:44,407 --> 00:29:46,159
9.07!
590
00:29:48,328 --> 00:29:50,955
Some people are born great performers.
591
00:29:52,415 --> 00:29:55,876
They have the talent
to effortlessly convince others
592
00:29:55,877 --> 00:29:57,837
they're more than just a number.
593
00:29:59,923 --> 00:30:04,803
But for the rest of us, no matter
how sincere we are inside...
594
00:30:04,928 --> 00:30:05,929
Hi.
595
00:30:06,346 --> 00:30:07,931
- How are you?
- I'm good.
596
00:30:08,056 --> 00:30:10,057
...it'll always be a struggle.
597
00:30:10,058 --> 00:30:13,061
Beautiful dreamer
598
00:30:13,186 --> 00:30:17,023
Awake unto me
599
00:30:22,779 --> 00:30:24,947
Thank you so much
for sharing that, Sophia.
600
00:30:24,948 --> 00:30:26,199
Thank you.
601
00:30:28,326 --> 00:30:29,993
Can I ask how old you are?
602
00:30:29,994 --> 00:30:32,163
- I'm 15.
- You're 15.
603
00:30:33,957 --> 00:30:36,292
What do you want to do
with your life, Sophia?
604
00:30:37,627 --> 00:30:39,212
- What do I want to do?
- Yeah.
605
00:30:40,463 --> 00:30:45,927
Well, I wanna go on a stage
and, like, sing my own songs.
606
00:30:46,302 --> 00:30:48,429
Like, I'm a songwriter and I love singing.
607
00:30:48,930 --> 00:30:53,433
Okay. So, I need to tell you
that I can't put you through
608
00:30:53,434 --> 00:30:55,644
to the next round
because you're not quite
609
00:30:55,645 --> 00:30:58,690
at the level we're looking for, okay?
610
00:30:59,232 --> 00:31:02,110
But can I tell you why I think
you're going to succeed?
611
00:31:02,569 --> 00:31:03,611
Why?
612
00:31:04,195 --> 00:31:06,990
There are millions of people
in this country
613
00:31:07,198 --> 00:31:10,785
that are your age
that want to be singers, okay?
614
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:14,037
And I'm sure a lot of them saw
the same ad that you did
615
00:31:14,038 --> 00:31:15,790
to come out and audition today.
616
00:31:16,791 --> 00:31:19,626
But you actually
got out of bed this morning.
617
00:31:19,627 --> 00:31:22,005
You drove here, you waited in line,
618
00:31:22,213 --> 00:31:24,464
and you stood in front of me right now
619
00:31:24,465 --> 00:31:28,844
knowing that there was a chance
that you might fail, right?
620
00:31:28,845 --> 00:31:30,095
Yeah, right.
621
00:31:30,096 --> 00:31:32,974
I've been in this industry
for a long time and...
622
00:31:34,684 --> 00:31:38,438
the number one thing that shows me
that someone's gonna succeed
623
00:31:38,605 --> 00:31:40,815
is if they're willing to take that risk,
624
00:31:41,482 --> 00:31:44,736
to put themselves out there
and to give it a shot,
625
00:31:44,986 --> 00:31:46,821
even though it might not go their way.
626
00:31:47,947 --> 00:31:50,824
And you have that ability, Sophia.
627
00:31:50,825 --> 00:31:53,703
And it's very rare and it's very special.
628
00:31:54,203 --> 00:31:55,412
- Okay?
- Okay.
629
00:31:55,413 --> 00:31:56,915
And all the other singers
630
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,043
that are still in bed right now,
they don't.
631
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,504
- Okay?
- Okay.
632
00:32:05,048 --> 00:32:06,215
How do you feel right now?
633
00:32:07,175 --> 00:32:10,219
Well, I'm a little disappointed.
634
00:32:11,679 --> 00:32:16,100
You're talented and you have a nice voice,
635
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:19,186
but you're not at the level
that we need right now
636
00:32:19,187 --> 00:32:22,856
for this competition. But you're so young,
637
00:32:22,857 --> 00:32:25,233
you have lots of life ahead of you, okay?
638
00:32:25,234 --> 00:32:26,861
- Okay.
- So, just remember that.
639
00:32:27,362 --> 00:32:29,821
Keep going. Don't give up, okay?
640
00:32:29,822 --> 00:32:31,449
- Thank you.
- Okay.
641
00:32:32,241 --> 00:32:34,243
- Okay, good luck out there.
- Thank you.
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