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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,672 --> 00:00:09,299 So, we're looking for star potential. 2 00:00:09,300 --> 00:00:11,510 - Oh, wow. - Yeah. So this is the room. 3 00:00:11,511 --> 00:00:13,638 You'll be sitting here at this desk. 4 00:00:13,763 --> 00:00:16,516 The singers are gonna come into this room one at a time, 5 00:00:16,808 --> 00:00:18,435 and this is sort of where they need to stand. 6 00:00:18,852 --> 00:00:20,729 - Okay. - And they'll be singing 7 00:00:20,854 --> 00:00:24,732 from a list of public domain songs we gave them. 8 00:00:24,733 --> 00:00:26,818 - Right. - And that's just so... 9 00:00:27,318 --> 00:00:28,987 we don't have to pay the licensing rights 10 00:00:29,112 --> 00:00:30,989 for the song. It just saves us money. 11 00:00:31,114 --> 00:00:32,698 And then right away, I just make my decision 12 00:00:32,699 --> 00:00:34,200 - at that moment. - Yes. 13 00:00:34,534 --> 00:00:37,995 These are the tickets you give out if you want someone to move on. 14 00:00:37,996 --> 00:00:40,372 You know, we really want the best of the best, 15 00:00:40,373 --> 00:00:43,125 so you can't be giving these out to anyone. 16 00:00:43,126 --> 00:00:46,003 - The standard should be star potential. - Okay. 17 00:00:46,004 --> 00:00:47,046 That's what I was told 18 00:00:47,047 --> 00:00:48,631 - when I did it. - What's star potential? 19 00:00:48,757 --> 00:00:50,674 Star potential is someone that you think 20 00:00:50,675 --> 00:00:52,885 - could be a star. - Okay. 21 00:00:52,886 --> 00:00:54,970 Anyone that doesn't meet that threshold, 22 00:00:54,971 --> 00:00:58,515 you have to deliver the news that they will not be moving on. 23 00:00:58,516 --> 00:01:00,476 You know, for a lot of these people, they're coming in, 24 00:01:00,477 --> 00:01:03,187 and they feel like their dreams are in your hands. 25 00:01:03,188 --> 00:01:06,274 You're delivering this hard news. You're saying no to someone. 26 00:01:06,399 --> 00:01:09,611 You need to, you know, assert yourself in that way. 27 00:01:09,944 --> 00:01:13,156 Are you okay with, like, delivering bad news, or... 28 00:01:13,615 --> 00:01:14,616 Just life. 29 00:01:15,950 --> 00:01:19,536 When I was 23, I got my first job in television 30 00:01:19,537 --> 00:01:21,790 as a junior producer for Canadian Idol... 31 00:01:21,915 --> 00:01:23,666 Idol! 32 00:01:23,792 --> 00:01:25,585 The Canadian version of American Idol. 33 00:01:27,128 --> 00:01:30,547 The celebrity judges you see on TV don't have time 34 00:01:30,548 --> 00:01:33,885 to consider everyone that shows up to these auditions. 35 00:01:34,427 --> 00:01:37,054 So, what they don't show you is that all the singers 36 00:01:37,055 --> 00:01:40,182 are first led into tiny rooms off camera 37 00:01:40,183 --> 00:01:43,436 where junior producers like myself were tasked 38 00:01:43,561 --> 00:01:44,896 with thinning the herd, 39 00:01:45,522 --> 00:01:48,983 eliminating anyone that didn't have star potential. 40 00:01:50,318 --> 00:01:54,030 All day long, I told people no to their face. 41 00:01:55,198 --> 00:01:58,785 Some took the news okay, but many did not. 42 00:01:59,369 --> 00:02:02,288 They broke down in front of me, crying, 43 00:02:02,747 --> 00:02:04,582 pleading for another chance. 44 00:02:05,166 --> 00:02:08,503 But no matter what, I had to hold my ground. 45 00:02:09,546 --> 00:02:12,048 It was a brutal experience for me. 46 00:02:13,216 --> 00:02:16,761 Every morning, I woke up in a new Canadian hotel room, 47 00:02:17,137 --> 00:02:19,139 dreading what I would have to do. 48 00:02:20,598 --> 00:02:22,891 When you know that whatever you say 49 00:02:22,892 --> 00:02:25,686 is going to devastate the person across from you, 50 00:02:25,687 --> 00:02:29,065 it makes you not want to say anything at all. 51 00:02:30,733 --> 00:02:34,154 I was becoming convinced that this was the reason 52 00:02:34,279 --> 00:02:37,991 some co-pilots have trouble saying no to their captain. 53 00:02:38,783 --> 00:02:43,163 They just can't imagine a way for the interaction to go well. 54 00:02:45,915 --> 00:02:49,085 But I've always wondered if it could be done differently, 55 00:02:50,003 --> 00:02:52,755 to have someone leave feeling good. 56 00:02:54,007 --> 00:02:56,885 I could never figure out how to do this. 57 00:02:57,594 --> 00:03:01,472 But maybe there was a co-pilot out there who could. 58 00:03:06,895 --> 00:03:13,525 Down in New Orleans 59 00:03:13,526 --> 00:03:16,445 I recruited a sampling of first officers 60 00:03:16,446 --> 00:03:18,740 from all the major U.S. airlines 61 00:03:18,865 --> 00:03:22,076 to participate in a massive experimental study. 62 00:03:23,036 --> 00:03:25,954 All these co-pilots had one unique quality 63 00:03:25,955 --> 00:03:27,457 that made them special. 64 00:03:27,749 --> 00:03:30,418 None of them have died in a plane crash, 65 00:03:30,710 --> 00:03:33,922 which meant there's a chance that at least one of them 66 00:03:34,047 --> 00:03:36,257 may have unknowingly cracked the code 67 00:03:36,382 --> 00:03:40,010 to speaking up to a captain without making them upset. 68 00:03:40,011 --> 00:03:42,639 Wings of Voice! 69 00:03:42,764 --> 00:03:44,348 I hoped this could be revealed 70 00:03:44,349 --> 00:03:47,060 with an aviation-themed singing competition 71 00:03:47,310 --> 00:03:50,729 where any and all aspiring singers from across the country 72 00:03:50,730 --> 00:03:52,190 were invited to apply. 73 00:03:52,565 --> 00:03:54,066 It's not a singing TV show, 74 00:03:54,067 --> 00:03:57,402 it's actually a singing competition as part of another TV show 75 00:03:57,403 --> 00:03:58,946 that has nothing to do with singing. 76 00:03:58,947 --> 00:04:00,280 - Okay. - Oh, cool! 77 00:04:00,281 --> 00:04:02,699 - Yeah. So... - Is there like a prize at the end 78 00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:03,992 or kind of what's the setup with it? 79 00:04:03,993 --> 00:04:07,955 Okay, so the winner will get to sing a song of our choice 80 00:04:07,956 --> 00:04:10,874 on national television with a full backing band... 81 00:04:10,875 --> 00:04:12,542 - Oh, sick. - ...in a partial recreation 82 00:04:12,543 --> 00:04:13,878 of the Houston Airport. 83 00:04:14,254 --> 00:04:15,462 - Wow. - Wow. 84 00:04:15,463 --> 00:04:16,881 Sounds amazing. 85 00:04:17,006 --> 00:04:21,469 O'er the land of the free 86 00:04:22,220 --> 00:04:28,685 And the home of the brave 87 00:04:30,311 --> 00:04:32,981 That was great. Unfortunately, you're not moving on. 88 00:04:33,106 --> 00:04:34,816 - Okay. - Thank you for your time. 89 00:04:41,406 --> 00:04:42,907 You did good, baby. You did good. 90 00:04:43,074 --> 00:04:46,076 You did good, you did good. You did great. 91 00:04:46,077 --> 00:04:48,328 I'm always proud of you. I'm always proud of you. 92 00:04:48,329 --> 00:04:49,914 I had really done it. 93 00:04:50,623 --> 00:04:53,251 I had brought Canadian Idol back to life. 94 00:04:53,584 --> 00:04:56,087 - I love you. - I love you, too. 95 00:04:58,172 --> 00:05:01,049 Because the experience can be so brutal, 96 00:05:01,050 --> 00:05:04,011 I found some co-pilots would try to get around 97 00:05:04,012 --> 00:05:07,639 upsetting the singers by giving out endless golden tickets. 98 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,100 So, yeah. 99 00:05:10,101 --> 00:05:12,769 Well, congratulations, you're moving on! 100 00:05:12,770 --> 00:05:14,230 Oh my goodness! 101 00:05:17,525 --> 00:05:20,486 It was a byproduct of this being a real competition. 102 00:05:21,112 --> 00:05:22,446 - Congrats. - Thank you. 103 00:05:22,447 --> 00:05:25,699 But ultimately, this was all about rejections. 104 00:05:25,700 --> 00:05:27,785 Hey, I was a little surprised about that one. 105 00:05:27,910 --> 00:05:29,037 Yeah. 106 00:05:29,495 --> 00:05:30,662 You feel she was good? 107 00:05:30,663 --> 00:05:32,206 - Yeah. - Yeah. 108 00:05:32,874 --> 00:05:34,666 You've sort of given a golden ticket to everyone? 109 00:05:34,667 --> 00:05:37,336 I know, I know, I know. 110 00:05:37,337 --> 00:05:39,047 That's why I was like, okay, okay. 111 00:05:39,756 --> 00:05:41,673 We only want to give to the best, remember? 112 00:05:41,674 --> 00:05:43,300 - The best, all right, the best. - Yeah. 113 00:05:43,301 --> 00:05:47,263 You do have to do the hard work of saying no. 114 00:05:47,430 --> 00:05:49,557 - All right. I got you. - Yeah. Okay, great. 115 00:05:49,932 --> 00:05:50,933 Okay. 116 00:05:51,225 --> 00:05:55,020 The holy grail I was looking for was a method of rejection 117 00:05:55,021 --> 00:05:56,813 that left everyone happy. 118 00:05:56,814 --> 00:06:00,735 Amazing grace, how sweet the sound 119 00:06:00,860 --> 00:06:03,445 It was fascinating to watch the different ways 120 00:06:03,446 --> 00:06:05,406 these co-pilots would say no to people. 121 00:06:05,823 --> 00:06:06,823 You're doing great, buddy. 122 00:06:06,824 --> 00:06:08,784 Just keep focusing on the donut and not the hole. 123 00:06:08,785 --> 00:06:10,118 That's what they always told me. 124 00:06:10,119 --> 00:06:13,205 But I was curious to see which of these techniques 125 00:06:13,206 --> 00:06:15,666 would make the singers feel the best. 126 00:06:18,461 --> 00:06:19,837 Sorry, thanks for coming. 127 00:06:20,546 --> 00:06:23,883 People are very good at hiding their true emotions. 128 00:06:24,384 --> 00:06:27,136 That's why I didn't want to evaluate anything 129 00:06:27,261 --> 00:06:28,720 by the singers' faces. 130 00:06:28,721 --> 00:06:30,847 Hi, would you be willing to rate your judge? 131 00:06:30,848 --> 00:06:32,308 - Yeah. - Okay, thank you. 132 00:06:32,475 --> 00:06:35,519 So, I put ballot boxes outside of each room 133 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,854 so after every rejection, the singers 134 00:06:37,855 --> 00:06:40,273 could rate their co-pilot's likability 135 00:06:40,274 --> 00:06:42,485 on a scale from one to ten. 136 00:06:43,069 --> 00:06:44,069 - Thanks. - Thanks. 137 00:06:44,070 --> 00:06:45,530 - Have a good one. - You too. 138 00:06:47,407 --> 00:06:50,034 After a day of heartbreak and tears, 139 00:06:50,326 --> 00:06:54,330 me and my Canadian Idol colleagues would go to a local bar to unwind. 140 00:06:55,331 --> 00:06:57,582 I found that talking to people who were going 141 00:06:57,583 --> 00:07:00,377 through the same thing as you helped me realize 142 00:07:00,378 --> 00:07:02,839 that it wasn't so weird what I was doing. 143 00:07:03,172 --> 00:07:06,342 So, I wanted this experience for the co-pilots too. 144 00:07:06,968 --> 00:07:10,095 And it was important enough that I had the bar I owned 145 00:07:10,096 --> 00:07:13,223 transported once again across state lines 146 00:07:13,224 --> 00:07:16,810 and added to my Los Angeles set of the Houston Airport. 147 00:07:16,811 --> 00:07:18,103 Well, that was fast. 148 00:07:18,104 --> 00:07:19,522 - Yeah, thanks a lot. - Awesome. 149 00:07:19,647 --> 00:07:21,858 These people are gonna think I'm so mean, but... 150 00:07:23,359 --> 00:07:24,776 - It is. It is. - Yeah. 151 00:07:24,777 --> 00:07:27,905 And she just started crying, and I was like, 152 00:07:28,364 --> 00:07:29,823 "I'm sorry." 153 00:07:29,824 --> 00:07:31,576 - Did you have a crier? - I had one crier. 154 00:07:32,785 --> 00:07:35,329 - I'm so sorry. - And I was like, "Oh no!" 155 00:07:37,748 --> 00:07:40,333 But when I started going through the singers' ratings, 156 00:07:40,334 --> 00:07:43,129 I was surprised by how likable they found 157 00:07:43,254 --> 00:07:44,630 these co-pilots. 158 00:07:45,423 --> 00:07:49,009 One co-pilot, a first officer from Southwest Airlines 159 00:07:49,010 --> 00:07:50,344 named Mara'D, 160 00:07:50,553 --> 00:07:52,763 had an average score of over nine, 161 00:07:52,930 --> 00:07:55,099 which seems suspiciously high. 162 00:07:55,308 --> 00:07:56,725 Thank you so much. I like your rendition. 163 00:07:56,726 --> 00:07:57,851 - I like the change. - Thank you. 164 00:07:57,852 --> 00:08:00,563 I think for me, it's not quite the sound we're looking for today. 165 00:08:00,813 --> 00:08:02,314 When I looked at her footage, 166 00:08:02,315 --> 00:08:04,649 nothing she was doing seemed that notable to me. 167 00:08:04,650 --> 00:08:06,277 I am going to pass today. 168 00:08:06,402 --> 00:08:09,197 But people, for some reason, were leaving happy. 169 00:08:11,866 --> 00:08:14,534 I was starting to wonder if these L.A. singers 170 00:08:14,535 --> 00:08:15,952 were just a different breed 171 00:08:15,953 --> 00:08:18,789 than the ones I used to reject back in Canada. 172 00:08:19,499 --> 00:08:22,083 Maybe they were just so used to hearing no 173 00:08:22,084 --> 00:08:23,544 that it didn't affect them. 174 00:08:24,128 --> 00:08:25,921 So, I decided to sit in for a bit 175 00:08:25,922 --> 00:08:27,465 and see for myself. 176 00:08:27,590 --> 00:08:33,471 Amazing grace 177 00:08:33,763 --> 00:08:36,181 How sweet... 178 00:08:36,182 --> 00:08:38,559 It was cool to be back in the seat again. 179 00:08:38,768 --> 00:08:40,520 I felt like I was in my element. 180 00:08:40,811 --> 00:08:43,064 So, there... you know, there's a lot of... 181 00:08:43,814 --> 00:08:46,567 Like, I'm not gonna be able to put you through to the next round... 182 00:08:47,026 --> 00:08:48,444 - For sure. - ...because there's a lot of, 183 00:08:49,070 --> 00:08:50,905 you know, people coming in. 184 00:08:53,074 --> 00:08:55,076 So, sorry about that. 185 00:08:56,786 --> 00:08:58,329 Sure, you're the judge. 186 00:08:59,163 --> 00:09:02,124 I just put forth my best performance, so... 187 00:09:02,375 --> 00:09:04,209 Okay, you did good. Thanks. 188 00:09:04,210 --> 00:09:05,545 Okay. Thank you. 189 00:09:40,121 --> 00:09:44,124 Confrontation is... is not... doesn't come naturally to me at all. 190 00:09:44,125 --> 00:09:45,500 I mean, you're doing something right. 191 00:09:45,501 --> 00:09:47,627 You're delivering bad news to these people 192 00:09:47,628 --> 00:09:49,588 and they are leaving happy about it. 193 00:09:49,589 --> 00:09:52,007 I mean, I don't understand how that works. I'm happy to hear that. 194 00:09:52,008 --> 00:09:54,217 Do you have a technique that you're doing or... 195 00:09:54,218 --> 00:09:56,636 No. Look, not really. 196 00:09:56,637 --> 00:09:59,515 - Should I? - No, no, I don't know. 197 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,142 - Okay. - I mean, I don't know what it is, 198 00:10:02,143 --> 00:10:03,519 but yeah, okay. 199 00:10:03,769 --> 00:10:05,687 Well, keep going. 200 00:10:05,688 --> 00:10:06,981 - Yeah, okay. - Okay. 201 00:10:08,941 --> 00:10:11,736 I decided to spend some time watching Mara'D 202 00:10:11,861 --> 00:10:13,945 to see if there was anything I was missing. 203 00:10:13,946 --> 00:10:15,572 - Hi! - Hi. How are you? 204 00:10:15,573 --> 00:10:17,950 - I'm good, how are you? - I'm fantastic. 205 00:10:18,075 --> 00:10:19,993 And the only thing that really jumped out to me 206 00:10:19,994 --> 00:10:22,746 was how often she used the word "fantastic." 207 00:10:22,747 --> 00:10:23,830 Hello, how are you? 208 00:10:23,831 --> 00:10:25,625 - Hi, I'm well, and yourself? - Fantastic. 209 00:10:25,750 --> 00:10:28,543 - Your volume control is fantastic. - Thank you. 210 00:10:28,544 --> 00:10:30,503 You have an absolutely beautiful voice. 211 00:10:30,504 --> 00:10:32,297 - Thank you. - Fantastic voice. 212 00:10:32,298 --> 00:10:34,591 It's not quite the right sound, but your sound is fantastic. 213 00:10:34,592 --> 00:10:36,551 So, for the next singers that came in, 214 00:10:36,552 --> 00:10:38,429 I adjusted my approach. 215 00:10:39,430 --> 00:10:40,848 - Hi. - Hi. 216 00:10:41,015 --> 00:10:43,683 - Hi, I'm Austin. - Fantastic. 217 00:10:43,684 --> 00:10:44,977 - All right. - All right. 218 00:10:45,102 --> 00:10:46,519 What are you gonna be singing today? 219 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,397 So, "The Star-Spangled Banner." 220 00:10:49,190 --> 00:10:50,608 - Fantastic. - Yeah. 221 00:10:50,733 --> 00:10:51,900 Okay, whenever you're ready. 222 00:10:51,901 --> 00:10:54,569 And the home 223 00:10:54,570 --> 00:11:01,410 Of the brave 224 00:11:03,037 --> 00:11:04,914 - Wow, fantastic. - Great. 225 00:11:07,041 --> 00:11:09,251 I'm gonna have to say no for today. 226 00:11:09,418 --> 00:11:11,087 - Okay. Okay. - But that was so good. 227 00:11:11,212 --> 00:11:12,421 Thank you. 228 00:11:13,839 --> 00:11:15,465 But yeah, great stuff. 229 00:11:15,466 --> 00:11:16,717 - Okay. - Good stuff. 230 00:11:17,468 --> 00:11:19,427 All right. Well, thank you so much. 231 00:11:19,428 --> 00:11:20,553 - Thank you. - And, yeah. 232 00:11:20,554 --> 00:11:22,682 - Thanks again for the opportunity. - Yeah. Fantastic. 233 00:11:39,490 --> 00:11:41,158 - What is your name? - Adore. 234 00:11:41,283 --> 00:11:42,993 Adore, that's beautiful. What are you singing today? 235 00:11:43,411 --> 00:11:45,370 - What's your name? - My name is Darian. 236 00:11:45,371 --> 00:11:47,163 Darian, beautiful. What's your name? 237 00:11:47,164 --> 00:11:49,208 - My name is Isabella. - Isabella, beautiful. 238 00:11:49,625 --> 00:11:51,335 - What's your name? - My name is Danny. 239 00:11:51,669 --> 00:11:54,296 - Danny, that's beautiful. - Thank you. 240 00:11:56,966 --> 00:11:59,801 Hey, the last couple of guys who were in my room, 241 00:11:59,802 --> 00:12:00,927 are they still here? 242 00:12:00,928 --> 00:12:03,097 Do you know... if they're still here? 243 00:12:03,931 --> 00:12:06,766 Hey, this is Nathan from Wings of Voice. 244 00:12:06,767 --> 00:12:07,977 Have you left yet? 245 00:12:12,314 --> 00:12:14,774 If you're still close, do you wanna come back for a sec? 246 00:12:14,775 --> 00:12:16,235 I just had a quick question. 247 00:12:18,696 --> 00:12:20,740 - Thanks for coming back. - Yeah, of course. 248 00:12:20,865 --> 00:12:24,325 I was just curious as to why you gave me 249 00:12:24,326 --> 00:12:26,078 such a low score. 250 00:12:28,664 --> 00:12:31,666 I don't know. I was just like, I was nervous 251 00:12:31,667 --> 00:12:33,710 and I didn't know really what was happening. 252 00:12:33,711 --> 00:12:37,714 I showed him a video of Mara'D and told him people loved her, 253 00:12:37,715 --> 00:12:40,383 even though she delivered them all bad news. 254 00:12:40,384 --> 00:12:42,218 'Cause I said a lot of the same things 255 00:12:42,219 --> 00:12:45,054 like she did and... but she would get, 256 00:12:45,055 --> 00:12:47,183 you know, she gets pretty high ratings. 257 00:12:47,433 --> 00:12:49,643 So like, what's the difference? What do you think? 258 00:12:49,977 --> 00:12:53,688 She just... I think that she just kind of came off 259 00:12:53,689 --> 00:12:54,899 a little bit more... 260 00:12:56,567 --> 00:12:58,402 I don't know what word to use. 261 00:13:00,362 --> 00:13:02,031 The way that she did everything, 262 00:13:02,281 --> 00:13:05,659 the way that she was, just her aura, her general aura, I would say. 263 00:13:06,660 --> 00:13:08,871 - Okay. Her aura. - Yeah. 264 00:13:09,413 --> 00:13:11,207 And how do you change that? 265 00:13:12,833 --> 00:13:14,209 I don't know, I don't think that it's... 266 00:13:14,210 --> 00:13:16,711 - I mean, I really don't know. - Okay. 267 00:13:16,712 --> 00:13:18,463 I don't know if that's, like, you know, 268 00:13:18,464 --> 00:13:20,591 I don't know if that's... you can really control like 269 00:13:20,716 --> 00:13:23,511 what your natural energy is, you know? 270 00:13:26,722 --> 00:13:28,181 - All right, well, thank you for... - Okay. 271 00:13:28,182 --> 00:13:29,516 - Yeah, thank you for that. - Yeah. 272 00:13:29,517 --> 00:13:33,479 Even though it was hard to hear, I disagreed with this man. 273 00:13:34,814 --> 00:13:37,816 I believe that any human quality can be learned, 274 00:13:37,817 --> 00:13:39,443 or at least emulated. 275 00:13:40,611 --> 00:13:43,030 Sometimes, it just takes time. 276 00:13:47,576 --> 00:13:48,577 - Hey. - Hey. 277 00:13:48,702 --> 00:13:50,119 - How's it going? - Good. 278 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,248 But the more I got to know Mara'D, 279 00:13:52,373 --> 00:13:55,084 the more I learned about her life in the cockpit. 280 00:13:55,209 --> 00:13:58,336 He was making a lot of inappropriate jokes 281 00:13:58,337 --> 00:14:01,381 and whatnot. You know, "Does your boyfriend satisfy you?" 282 00:14:01,382 --> 00:14:03,424 - Kind of weird questions. - This is the captain saying this? 283 00:14:03,425 --> 00:14:05,803 - This is the captain. - How do you respond to that? 284 00:14:06,053 --> 00:14:08,180 I would blow him off or change the subject. 285 00:14:08,556 --> 00:14:10,098 Just kind of chuckle and just kind of, 286 00:14:10,099 --> 00:14:12,475 - you know, like, hope it goes away. - Okay. 287 00:14:12,476 --> 00:14:14,894 I mean, at this point in my career, I'm very skilled at that. 288 00:14:14,895 --> 00:14:16,522 It was a little more rough then, but... 289 00:14:16,981 --> 00:14:17,981 Holy crap. 290 00:14:17,982 --> 00:14:21,693 I was realizing I had still never witnessed a real captain 291 00:14:21,694 --> 00:14:24,321 and first officer interacting with each other. 292 00:14:25,030 --> 00:14:27,282 So, I invited some airline captains 293 00:14:27,283 --> 00:14:31,244 to join the first officers at our nightly hangs at Nate's, 294 00:14:31,245 --> 00:14:34,039 as I was curious to see how they got along. 295 00:14:37,835 --> 00:14:38,836 Okay. 296 00:14:51,557 --> 00:14:52,850 With the captains in the bar, 297 00:14:53,309 --> 00:14:55,936 the energy in the room seemed to change, 298 00:14:56,061 --> 00:14:57,687 but I couldn't tell what it meant. 299 00:14:57,688 --> 00:15:00,106 Is that the female pilot table over there? 300 00:15:00,107 --> 00:15:01,482 I see a bunch of female pilots. 301 00:15:01,483 --> 00:15:03,651 - I guess there are, yeah. - I'm gonna talk to them. 302 00:15:03,652 --> 00:15:05,695 Mara'D got into a conversation 303 00:15:05,696 --> 00:15:09,366 with a captain named Jeff, who worked for American Airlines. 304 00:15:09,533 --> 00:15:12,286 I got hired in 2013, and I've been there 305 00:15:12,411 --> 00:15:13,870 - for about 11 years. - Right on. 306 00:15:13,871 --> 00:15:17,123 Yeah. So, life could be worse, right? 307 00:15:17,124 --> 00:15:19,584 - You wide body or narrow? - Narrow. Airbus. 308 00:15:19,585 --> 00:15:20,668 - Okay. - Yeah. 309 00:15:20,669 --> 00:15:22,921 But I couldn't tell from watching any of this 310 00:15:22,922 --> 00:15:25,757 if captains were aware of how hard it can be 311 00:15:25,758 --> 00:15:28,302 for their co-pilots to speak their mind. 312 00:15:28,802 --> 00:15:31,555 So, when I invited Jeff to sit down for a chat, 313 00:15:31,847 --> 00:15:33,681 I was surprised when he claimed 314 00:15:33,682 --> 00:15:35,767 that he was the one who felt the pressure 315 00:15:35,768 --> 00:15:37,143 to stay silent. 316 00:15:37,144 --> 00:15:40,063 I mean, you know, especially being a male captain 317 00:15:40,064 --> 00:15:43,442 and a female first officer, you always have to also kind of, 318 00:15:43,776 --> 00:15:45,693 you know, walk on eggshells or whatever, 319 00:15:45,694 --> 00:15:47,029 - if you will because you... - Why? 320 00:15:47,154 --> 00:15:49,782 Because something you may think is a joke and try to be funny, 321 00:15:50,324 --> 00:15:52,450 - she might get offended by, right? - Sure, yeah. 322 00:15:52,451 --> 00:15:54,577 You know, I've been doing this for a long time. I feel like... 323 00:15:54,578 --> 00:15:57,330 I'm not a psychologist, but I feel like I know how to read the room pretty well. 324 00:15:57,331 --> 00:15:59,791 - Doing what for a long time? - Just, well, flying. 325 00:15:59,792 --> 00:16:01,209 - Not only flying but also just... - Yeah. 326 00:16:01,210 --> 00:16:04,003 ...like interacting with people, being single. 327 00:16:04,004 --> 00:16:06,840 I've been banned from pretty much every dating app known to man. 328 00:16:07,716 --> 00:16:09,300 - Banned? - They kick you off... 329 00:16:09,301 --> 00:16:10,843 - For what? - They don't give you reasons. 330 00:16:10,844 --> 00:16:13,180 So like, I've been banned from Tinder, 331 00:16:13,389 --> 00:16:15,265 Hinge, Bumble. 332 00:16:15,808 --> 00:16:19,602 And I think that's it. And Seeking... 333 00:16:19,603 --> 00:16:22,730 Seeking Arrangements, it's where you go meet girls 334 00:16:22,731 --> 00:16:24,692 that are looking for, like, more like... 335 00:16:25,109 --> 00:16:26,776 like a mutually beneficial arrangement. 336 00:16:26,777 --> 00:16:30,196 How is that even possible, to be banned from so many sites? 337 00:16:30,197 --> 00:16:31,990 You don't have to do anything illegal. 338 00:16:31,991 --> 00:16:34,367 It could just be like you offended someone 339 00:16:34,368 --> 00:16:35,702 based on something you said. 340 00:16:35,703 --> 00:16:37,120 - Sure. - I don't remember saying 341 00:16:37,121 --> 00:16:38,372 anything too offensive. 342 00:16:38,497 --> 00:16:40,248 - I just don't know, right? - You don't know? 343 00:16:40,249 --> 00:16:42,000 They don't give you a reason of why. 344 00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:43,710 So, you have no clue why you got banned? 345 00:16:43,711 --> 00:16:45,421 No. I got kicked off of Instagram too. 346 00:16:46,547 --> 00:16:47,881 For like three months. 347 00:16:48,257 --> 00:16:51,677 If a captain can be banned from five different dating apps 348 00:16:51,802 --> 00:16:54,137 and still not know what he's done wrong... 349 00:16:54,138 --> 00:16:55,722 They don't believe in second chances either. 350 00:16:55,723 --> 00:16:58,599 I tried to sign up with my mom's phone number and stuff, 351 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,270 but Bumble has an algorithm, I think, where it recognizes your photos. 352 00:17:02,271 --> 00:17:04,230 ...it might be the perfect opportunity 353 00:17:04,231 --> 00:17:07,483 to see if something emerges in a cockpit scenario 354 00:17:07,484 --> 00:17:10,237 that would reveal Mara'D's special talent. 355 00:17:10,362 --> 00:17:13,323 All right, so yeah, you guys can just do your thing, 356 00:17:13,532 --> 00:17:17,410 - and I'll be watching. - All right. Sounds good. 357 00:17:17,411 --> 00:17:19,788 - Generators one and two. - On. 358 00:17:19,913 --> 00:17:21,456 - Probe heat. - Auto. 359 00:17:21,457 --> 00:17:23,207 - Wing anti-ice. - On. 360 00:17:23,208 --> 00:17:24,918 - Engine anti-ice. - Auto. 361 00:17:28,213 --> 00:17:30,340 - Positive rate. - Landing gear up. 362 00:17:30,924 --> 00:17:31,967 Gear up. 363 00:17:32,217 --> 00:17:35,554 And JetLine 56, we are cleared ILS nine. 364 00:17:36,013 --> 00:17:40,392 Set maintain 2,000 feet, turn left heading one-three-zero. 365 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:44,646 Yeah, so... 366 00:17:48,484 --> 00:17:50,068 So, you've been five years flying, huh? 367 00:17:50,069 --> 00:17:51,360 - Seven-three? - Yeah. 368 00:17:51,361 --> 00:17:53,113 - Five years on the seven-three. - Wow. 369 00:17:53,655 --> 00:17:55,532 - You single? - Yeah. 370 00:17:56,658 --> 00:17:57,909 Married before? 371 00:17:57,910 --> 00:18:00,204 - No. Never married. - No? Wow. 372 00:18:00,454 --> 00:18:01,914 - No kids? - Nope, no kids. 373 00:18:02,206 --> 00:18:03,373 Wow. 374 00:18:03,665 --> 00:18:06,251 - Is it hard, dating? - I don't date. 375 00:18:06,460 --> 00:18:07,878 - You don't date? - No. 376 00:18:08,045 --> 00:18:10,839 But when Jeff started asking about her romantic life, 377 00:18:10,964 --> 00:18:14,843 I couldn't tell if she was enjoying this conversation or not. 378 00:18:16,095 --> 00:18:19,305 - You're just too picky? - No, just, you know, ten years ago, 379 00:18:19,306 --> 00:18:23,726 it didn't work out with a situation, and I really haven't wanted to. 380 00:18:23,727 --> 00:18:25,436 - I have a completely full life. - So you're just, 381 00:18:25,437 --> 00:18:26,646 you're not dating or anything? 382 00:18:26,647 --> 00:18:28,356 - You're just celibate? - No. Yeah. 383 00:18:28,357 --> 00:18:30,734 - Wow. That's crazy. - Yep. 384 00:18:31,443 --> 00:18:32,569 Yep. 385 00:18:33,570 --> 00:18:36,156 It can be like that. 386 00:18:36,323 --> 00:18:39,576 If she was trying to steer Jeff away from this topic, 387 00:18:39,701 --> 00:18:41,077 he wasn't getting the hint. 388 00:18:41,078 --> 00:18:44,581 I should hook you up with my dad. He's been celibate for like four years. 389 00:18:45,833 --> 00:18:47,416 - No, I'm good. - I tried to sign my dad up 390 00:18:47,417 --> 00:18:49,252 - on eHarmony... - But what I was witnessing 391 00:18:49,253 --> 00:18:52,880 between Mara'D and this captain felt eerily similar 392 00:18:52,881 --> 00:18:56,592 to a situation in my own life, where I couldn't figure out 393 00:18:56,593 --> 00:19:00,013 the right way to express my true feelings. 394 00:19:00,347 --> 00:19:01,389 "Deny nothing." 395 00:19:01,390 --> 00:19:04,226 - That's our slogan. - Yeah. I love that. 396 00:19:04,351 --> 00:19:07,020 I'd gotten in the habit of giving away jackets, 397 00:19:07,146 --> 00:19:10,983 sweatshirts, and socks to the pilots I've been working with. 398 00:19:11,108 --> 00:19:13,609 You can wear them to bed too. Like pajamas, too, 399 00:19:13,610 --> 00:19:14,902 - if it's cold. - Yeah. 400 00:19:14,903 --> 00:19:17,446 This brand had a special meaning to me 401 00:19:17,447 --> 00:19:19,240 as it began a decade ago 402 00:19:19,241 --> 00:19:21,410 as part of a comedy series I used to make 403 00:19:21,869 --> 00:19:23,495 called Nathan For You. 404 00:19:23,871 --> 00:19:25,246 As part of the show, 405 00:19:25,247 --> 00:19:28,916 I launched a real outdoor apparel line called Summit Ice 406 00:19:28,917 --> 00:19:33,505 that has gone on to raise millions of dollars for Holocaust awareness. 407 00:19:34,256 --> 00:19:36,382 It's been my proudest achievement 408 00:19:36,383 --> 00:19:39,135 and served as my only proof to these pilots 409 00:19:39,136 --> 00:19:42,514 that a comedy show can actually make a difference. 410 00:19:42,764 --> 00:19:45,558 These things that start off as like maybe a little silly 411 00:19:45,559 --> 00:19:48,687 can actually have an impact in the world so... 412 00:19:48,812 --> 00:19:50,104 It does. It really does. 413 00:19:50,105 --> 00:19:52,900 But this is where the story gets complicated. 414 00:19:54,151 --> 00:19:55,694 Okay, sit here. 415 00:19:56,737 --> 00:19:59,239 So, I was at the computer just like this. 416 00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:02,242 And this is my exact correspondence. 417 00:20:02,701 --> 00:20:05,120 Okay, so I want you to type the same words I did. 418 00:20:05,454 --> 00:20:06,455 Okay. 419 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:11,834 In late 2023, I discovered that the episode of Nathan For You 420 00:20:11,835 --> 00:20:15,630 featuring the Summit Ice story mysteriously went missing 421 00:20:15,631 --> 00:20:18,300 from the Paramount Plus streaming service. 422 00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:21,845 It's season three, episode two. 423 00:20:22,387 --> 00:20:25,015 You can see right there, it's gone. 424 00:20:26,308 --> 00:20:30,603 But everything I did after that point wasn't captured on camera. 425 00:20:30,604 --> 00:20:33,982 Are you supposed to be at home, or in the office? 426 00:20:35,150 --> 00:20:36,651 I don't remember where I was, 427 00:20:36,652 --> 00:20:39,821 but it could've been one of those. Yeah. 428 00:20:42,282 --> 00:20:43,282 Okay. 429 00:20:43,283 --> 00:20:45,910 Which was frustrating, because my headspace 430 00:20:45,911 --> 00:20:47,870 in that moment might be the key 431 00:20:47,871 --> 00:20:51,208 to understanding how to get through to a captain. 432 00:20:54,253 --> 00:20:57,672 I wrote an email to some contacts I had at Paramount, 433 00:20:57,673 --> 00:21:00,842 asking them why the episode was removed. 434 00:21:02,094 --> 00:21:03,929 The thing that made this tricky was, 435 00:21:04,054 --> 00:21:07,599 Paramount is currently airing a different series of mine, 436 00:21:08,058 --> 00:21:11,186 a scripted drama that hadn't yet been renewed. 437 00:21:11,853 --> 00:21:15,357 How I spoke to them could have career repercussions, 438 00:21:15,482 --> 00:21:17,734 just like it did for co-pilots. 439 00:21:20,362 --> 00:21:24,116 I remember wanting to convey how urgent this was for me. 440 00:21:24,658 --> 00:21:28,161 And yet, my email was extremely cordial, 441 00:21:28,412 --> 00:21:33,250 using phrases like "forever grateful" and "happy holidays." 442 00:21:38,547 --> 00:21:40,756 The network confirmed in their response 443 00:21:40,757 --> 00:21:43,051 that it was taken down intentionally 444 00:21:43,218 --> 00:21:46,471 and gave me a one-word explanation as to why. 445 00:21:47,180 --> 00:21:48,640 "Sensitivities." 446 00:21:50,142 --> 00:21:51,893 How does that response make you feel? 447 00:21:56,148 --> 00:21:57,190 Frustrated. 448 00:21:59,234 --> 00:22:01,903 Right, yeah. I think I felt that way too. 449 00:22:04,573 --> 00:22:05,991 Okay, now type my reply. 450 00:22:06,450 --> 00:22:09,995 I was frustrated, but my reply, again, 451 00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:12,789 didn't communicate my level of concern. 452 00:22:13,623 --> 00:22:16,542 I used three friendly exclamation points 453 00:22:16,543 --> 00:22:18,879 in just two sentences. 454 00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:22,132 What was I so worried about? 455 00:22:26,219 --> 00:22:28,847 I think you didn't want to be too pushy. 456 00:22:29,348 --> 00:22:30,599 Which was strange 457 00:22:30,724 --> 00:22:34,269 because I remembered my emails being very pushy. 458 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,981 But I'll never forget exactly where I was 459 00:22:38,982 --> 00:22:41,318 when I finally learned the truth. 460 00:22:42,194 --> 00:22:44,737 What I discovered was so shocking 461 00:22:44,738 --> 00:22:48,700 a tornado of emotions began spinning inside my body. 462 00:22:49,785 --> 00:22:52,536 The email said in late 2023, 463 00:22:52,537 --> 00:22:55,581 a decision was made by Paramount Plus Germany 464 00:22:55,582 --> 00:22:57,751 to remove the episode in their region 465 00:22:57,876 --> 00:23:00,753 after they became uncomfortable with what they called, 466 00:23:00,754 --> 00:23:03,465 "Anything that touches on antisemitism 467 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,594 in the aftermath of the Israel-Hamas attacks." 468 00:23:08,345 --> 00:23:09,763 But it didn't stop there. 469 00:23:10,722 --> 00:23:13,391 This act by Germany triggered the attention 470 00:23:13,392 --> 00:23:16,269 of other European Paramount branches, 471 00:23:16,478 --> 00:23:19,356 and they in turn pulled the episode too. 472 00:23:20,273 --> 00:23:24,402 Before long, the ideology of Paramount Plus Germany 473 00:23:24,403 --> 00:23:26,696 had spread to the entire globe, 474 00:23:26,905 --> 00:23:30,826 eliminating all Jewish content that made them uncomfortable. 475 00:23:31,868 --> 00:23:33,412 This is real, by the way. 476 00:23:34,454 --> 00:23:39,167 Currently, on the Paramount app, there are 50 results for "Nazi," 477 00:23:39,626 --> 00:23:43,296 ten for "Hitler," and zero for "Judaism." 478 00:23:46,299 --> 00:23:47,634 We've been erased. 479 00:23:50,011 --> 00:23:53,640 I wanted to urge Paramount to reconsider their decision. 480 00:23:54,349 --> 00:23:57,352 But what could I say that wouldn't annoy them? 481 00:24:00,188 --> 00:24:02,107 That's what I was worried about. 482 00:24:02,858 --> 00:24:06,027 That's what I was thinking about in the shower that day. 483 00:24:07,779 --> 00:24:08,989 I remember now. 484 00:24:13,076 --> 00:24:15,495 Why did I expect them to get the hint 485 00:24:15,829 --> 00:24:18,623 when I didn't even say what I really felt? 486 00:24:19,291 --> 00:24:20,375 Here you go. 487 00:24:22,002 --> 00:24:23,335 But if the right girl came along, 488 00:24:23,336 --> 00:24:25,421 - I would definitely wife her up. - Yeah. 489 00:24:25,422 --> 00:24:27,214 If she was okay with non-monogamy. 490 00:24:27,215 --> 00:24:29,301 Okay. Yeah. 491 00:24:29,509 --> 00:24:32,804 But unlike me, who stopped communicating altogether, 492 00:24:33,054 --> 00:24:35,890 Mara'D kept engaging with her captain. 493 00:24:35,891 --> 00:24:37,559 Lots of beautiful Latina women there. 494 00:24:37,726 --> 00:24:38,934 - Right on. - Right. 495 00:24:38,935 --> 00:24:41,229 I need to brush up on my español a little bit. 496 00:24:41,646 --> 00:24:42,855 - Yeah. - That's cool. 497 00:24:42,856 --> 00:24:45,107 Yeah, I mean, I downloaded that Duolingo app. 498 00:24:45,108 --> 00:24:46,817 - Yeah. - Yeah, I've been practicing. 499 00:24:46,818 --> 00:24:48,402 - Right on. - Acting interested 500 00:24:48,403 --> 00:24:51,573 in his perspective, whether she agreed with it or not. 501 00:24:52,032 --> 00:24:53,866 Gotta impress all these girls all the time. 502 00:24:53,867 --> 00:24:56,660 - Wining and dining 'em, you know? - Poor thing. You want kids someday? 503 00:24:56,661 --> 00:24:58,621 - One day, yeah. - You gonna keep them alive? 504 00:24:58,622 --> 00:25:00,372 I'll try. Well, I'm gonna hire a nanny. 505 00:25:00,373 --> 00:25:02,959 And when she eventually did shut him down, 506 00:25:03,126 --> 00:25:05,754 it felt like there was no tension at all. 507 00:25:05,879 --> 00:25:07,588 I'm aiming to retire at 60. 508 00:25:07,589 --> 00:25:09,673 Financially, I can retire at 60 right now. 509 00:25:09,674 --> 00:25:12,052 How many years you got left, if you don't mind me asking? 510 00:25:12,844 --> 00:25:15,554 Not enough. I don't... Or too many. I don't know, depends on the day. 511 00:25:15,555 --> 00:25:17,890 - I'm not gonna try to guess. - I'm not gonna answer. 512 00:25:17,891 --> 00:25:20,393 - You're not gonna answer? Okay. - No, we're not answering that. 513 00:25:21,770 --> 00:25:23,854 I couldn't tell if this was a strategy 514 00:25:23,855 --> 00:25:25,899 or what I was even looking at. 515 00:25:26,650 --> 00:25:28,609 But maybe there was more I could try 516 00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:31,696 with my captain to get my point heard. 517 00:25:36,034 --> 00:25:39,578 I didn't know what the Paramount Plus Germany offices looked like, 518 00:25:39,579 --> 00:25:41,706 so I sort of had to take a guess. 519 00:25:45,877 --> 00:25:49,005 I tried to make the environment feel hostile to me, 520 00:25:49,214 --> 00:25:53,468 as a reminder to not go soft on them like I did in my emails. 521 00:25:58,098 --> 00:26:00,559 Mr. Fielder, it's a pleasure. 522 00:26:00,684 --> 00:26:02,477 - Hi, nice to meet you. - Yeah. 523 00:26:02,936 --> 00:26:06,815 So what brings you all this way to our humble offices? 524 00:26:09,317 --> 00:26:10,359 How rude of me. 525 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:12,320 Fritz, will you bring our guest some tea? 526 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,615 Hospitality is what separates us from the animals. 527 00:26:16,616 --> 00:26:18,618 - Don't you agree? - Sure. 528 00:26:19,411 --> 00:26:20,745 I guess I'll just get right to it. 529 00:26:21,121 --> 00:26:23,372 You guys removed an episode of a TV show I made 530 00:26:23,373 --> 00:26:24,582 called Nathan For You, 531 00:26:24,583 --> 00:26:26,793 and I was told the reason was sensitivities 532 00:26:27,002 --> 00:26:28,753 related to antisemitism. 533 00:26:29,129 --> 00:26:32,090 That's right. It's something we take seriously. 534 00:26:32,882 --> 00:26:35,426 In Germany today, we have no tolerance 535 00:26:35,427 --> 00:26:39,222 for any images that may evoke hate 536 00:26:39,389 --> 00:26:43,642 or incite violence towards any group of people. You know? 537 00:26:43,643 --> 00:26:45,729 But, look, I know you guys are... 538 00:26:46,396 --> 00:26:48,105 You know, probably feel a lot of shame 539 00:26:48,106 --> 00:26:49,481 about what you did in the past, 540 00:26:49,482 --> 00:26:51,025 and now you're trying to overcompensate 541 00:26:51,026 --> 00:26:54,236 by being the world leaders in fighting antisemitism. 542 00:26:54,237 --> 00:26:58,742 But when it comes to art, I think you have to know your place. 543 00:26:58,867 --> 00:27:01,493 And you have to let us Jews express ourselves, 544 00:27:01,494 --> 00:27:02,786 because honestly, 545 00:27:02,787 --> 00:27:05,915 the way you're approaching this whole thing, it... 546 00:27:06,207 --> 00:27:08,542 You know, people might get the wrong idea 547 00:27:08,543 --> 00:27:10,629 about what you actually stand for. 548 00:27:10,879 --> 00:27:12,129 I'm on your side, 549 00:27:12,130 --> 00:27:14,174 believe it or not, we're on the same side. 550 00:27:14,299 --> 00:27:15,383 You take sugar? 551 00:27:17,761 --> 00:27:18,803 Sure. 552 00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:33,443 Okay, let's start over. Let's do it again. 553 00:27:33,735 --> 00:27:34,986 Let's do another one. 554 00:27:36,738 --> 00:27:39,908 - Want me to go out there, or... - Yeah, you can start outside. 555 00:27:40,241 --> 00:27:43,662 But as I began rehearsing, something felt off. 556 00:27:44,621 --> 00:27:46,539 Mr. Fielder. It's a pleasure. 557 00:27:47,374 --> 00:27:49,209 The actors were very good, 558 00:27:49,334 --> 00:27:51,293 but I felt they were being constrained 559 00:27:51,294 --> 00:27:53,170 by the direction I had given them. 560 00:27:53,171 --> 00:27:55,882 Fritz, will you bring our guest some tea, please? 561 00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:59,302 Hospitality is what separates us from the animals. 562 00:27:59,427 --> 00:28:00,470 Don't you agree? 563 00:28:04,516 --> 00:28:06,142 Try something else. Just... 564 00:28:07,352 --> 00:28:09,896 So, I encouraged them to speak more freely, 565 00:28:10,355 --> 00:28:11,773 whatever came to their mind. 566 00:28:12,232 --> 00:28:13,732 Well, tell me this. Is there... 567 00:28:13,733 --> 00:28:16,236 Did you get any complaints about the episode? 568 00:28:16,986 --> 00:28:20,281 If we did have complaints, would you be open to hearing them? 569 00:28:20,782 --> 00:28:24,744 I mean, that's the reason I'm here, is to understand your perspective. 570 00:28:25,286 --> 00:28:27,997 Yeah? I have a hard time believing that. 571 00:28:28,748 --> 00:28:31,459 Why? I'm here. I'm asking you questions. 572 00:28:32,043 --> 00:28:34,546 You designed this office to look like a war room. 573 00:28:35,213 --> 00:28:37,215 Dressed me to look like a Nazi. 574 00:28:37,549 --> 00:28:39,467 - I mean... - Pretending to want feedback, 575 00:28:39,592 --> 00:28:42,429 but you don't actually want to get the Paramount Plus perspective 576 00:28:42,595 --> 00:28:44,180 or the German perspective. 577 00:28:47,058 --> 00:28:49,060 Look at you, pretending to be serious. 578 00:28:49,811 --> 00:28:50,937 This is not sincere. 579 00:28:52,147 --> 00:28:54,899 You're just a man with a grudge 580 00:28:55,358 --> 00:28:57,569 using his television show to smear us... 581 00:28:59,154 --> 00:29:01,656 instead of trying to understand us. 582 00:29:19,591 --> 00:29:22,844 I've always felt that sincerity is overrated. 583 00:29:25,263 --> 00:29:27,264 It just ends up punishing those 584 00:29:27,265 --> 00:29:29,726 who can't perform it as well as others. 585 00:29:30,185 --> 00:29:33,104 Joe S, 7.02! 586 00:29:34,564 --> 00:29:38,443 Michael S, 7.17! 587 00:29:40,069 --> 00:29:41,613 8.03! 588 00:29:41,738 --> 00:29:43,573 - Wow. - 7.25! 589 00:29:44,407 --> 00:29:46,159 9.07! 590 00:29:48,328 --> 00:29:50,955 Some people are born great performers. 591 00:29:52,415 --> 00:29:55,876 They have the talent to effortlessly convince others 592 00:29:55,877 --> 00:29:57,837 they're more than just a number. 593 00:29:59,923 --> 00:30:04,803 But for the rest of us, no matter how sincere we are inside... 594 00:30:04,928 --> 00:30:05,929 Hi. 595 00:30:06,346 --> 00:30:07,931 - How are you? - I'm good. 596 00:30:08,056 --> 00:30:10,057 ...it'll always be a struggle. 597 00:30:10,058 --> 00:30:13,061 Beautiful dreamer 598 00:30:13,186 --> 00:30:17,023 Awake unto me 599 00:30:22,779 --> 00:30:24,947 Thank you so much for sharing that, Sophia. 600 00:30:24,948 --> 00:30:26,199 Thank you. 601 00:30:28,326 --> 00:30:29,993 Can I ask how old you are? 602 00:30:29,994 --> 00:30:32,163 - I'm 15. - You're 15. 603 00:30:33,957 --> 00:30:36,292 What do you want to do with your life, Sophia? 604 00:30:37,627 --> 00:30:39,212 - What do I want to do? - Yeah. 605 00:30:40,463 --> 00:30:45,927 Well, I wanna go on a stage and, like, sing my own songs. 606 00:30:46,302 --> 00:30:48,429 Like, I'm a songwriter and I love singing. 607 00:30:48,930 --> 00:30:53,433 Okay. So, I need to tell you that I can't put you through 608 00:30:53,434 --> 00:30:55,644 to the next round because you're not quite 609 00:30:55,645 --> 00:30:58,690 at the level we're looking for, okay? 610 00:30:59,232 --> 00:31:02,110 But can I tell you why I think you're going to succeed? 611 00:31:02,569 --> 00:31:03,611 Why? 612 00:31:04,195 --> 00:31:06,990 There are millions of people in this country 613 00:31:07,198 --> 00:31:10,785 that are your age that want to be singers, okay? 614 00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:14,037 And I'm sure a lot of them saw the same ad that you did 615 00:31:14,038 --> 00:31:15,790 to come out and audition today. 616 00:31:16,791 --> 00:31:19,626 But you actually got out of bed this morning. 617 00:31:19,627 --> 00:31:22,005 You drove here, you waited in line, 618 00:31:22,213 --> 00:31:24,464 and you stood in front of me right now 619 00:31:24,465 --> 00:31:28,844 knowing that there was a chance that you might fail, right? 620 00:31:28,845 --> 00:31:30,095 Yeah, right. 621 00:31:30,096 --> 00:31:32,974 I've been in this industry for a long time and... 622 00:31:34,684 --> 00:31:38,438 the number one thing that shows me that someone's gonna succeed 623 00:31:38,605 --> 00:31:40,815 is if they're willing to take that risk, 624 00:31:41,482 --> 00:31:44,736 to put themselves out there and to give it a shot, 625 00:31:44,986 --> 00:31:46,821 even though it might not go their way. 626 00:31:47,947 --> 00:31:50,824 And you have that ability, Sophia. 627 00:31:50,825 --> 00:31:53,703 And it's very rare and it's very special. 628 00:31:54,203 --> 00:31:55,412 - Okay? - Okay. 629 00:31:55,413 --> 00:31:56,915 And all the other singers 630 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,043 that are still in bed right now, they don't. 631 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,504 - Okay? - Okay. 632 00:32:05,048 --> 00:32:06,215 How do you feel right now? 633 00:32:07,175 --> 00:32:10,219 Well, I'm a little disappointed. 634 00:32:11,679 --> 00:32:16,100 You're talented and you have a nice voice, 635 00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:19,186 but you're not at the level that we need right now 636 00:32:19,187 --> 00:32:22,856 for this competition. But you're so young, 637 00:32:22,857 --> 00:32:25,233 you have lots of life ahead of you, okay? 638 00:32:25,234 --> 00:32:26,861 - Okay. - So, just remember that. 639 00:32:27,362 --> 00:32:29,821 Keep going. Don't give up, okay? 640 00:32:29,822 --> 00:32:31,449 - Thank you. - Okay. 641 00:32:32,241 --> 00:32:34,243 - Okay, good luck out there. - Thank you. 49233

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