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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,001 --> 00:00:03,719 Hello, I'm calling from the trip. I'd like to confirm a quote. 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,040 Getting around two hours. How much money was involved? 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:08,960 Was it over a thousand dollars? 4 00:00:09,120 --> 00:00:10,380 Was it over ten thousand? 5 00:01:08,430 --> 00:01:09,480 Hi. 6 00:01:10,090 --> 00:01:11,810 Hi. What are you doing here? 7 00:01:12,290 --> 00:01:13,340 Rainier, what's up? 8 00:01:13,341 --> 00:01:15,449 Didn't they just catch you in Florida? 9 00:01:15,450 --> 00:01:18,280 Yes, and that's where I got a call before they go to lunch. 10 00:01:18,790 --> 00:01:20,900 I thought I said let you out of bed so early. 11 00:01:21,110 --> 00:01:22,930 Lamb. A little joke there. 12 00:01:24,010 --> 00:01:25,190 I'm a sore loser, okay? 13 00:01:25,530 --> 00:01:26,580 Let me help you. 14 00:01:26,581 --> 00:01:29,829 An old college friend of mine was just made chief of police in Davistown, 15 00:01:29,830 --> 00:01:30,880 Florida. 16 00:01:33,230 --> 00:01:34,470 You okay now? Thanks. 17 00:01:38,770 --> 00:01:40,090 Couldn't do it without you. 18 00:01:40,350 --> 00:01:42,470 How you doing, pal? 19 00:01:42,471 --> 00:01:44,769 All right. I didn't think you'd be in until this afternoon. 20 00:01:44,770 --> 00:01:47,180 Neither did I. My racquetball game got canceled. 21 00:01:47,910 --> 00:01:51,760 Sorry, the club warming up and Senator Collins called and said he had the flu. 22 00:01:51,910 --> 00:01:53,470 Oh, my thing. Oh, you're pretty. 23 00:01:53,810 --> 00:01:54,860 Creamed in. 24 00:01:56,700 --> 00:01:58,990 Uh, Susan Gallagher's there. Fine, I'll hold. 25 00:01:58,991 --> 00:01:59,999 Hi, Billy. 26 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,050 Hi, Ben. 27 00:02:01,051 --> 00:02:03,839 Oh, boy, I think it's the holes for these. 28 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,459 Uh, tell her it's Billy Newman. I promise you she'll talk to me. 29 00:02:06,460 --> 00:02:07,540 What do you got there? 30 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,220 Oh, just a little something. 31 00:02:10,220 --> 00:02:11,270 Hey, Ben, come here. 32 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,600 Will you let me know what's going on? 33 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,210 Oh, I'd be glad to. 34 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,000 I've been going back and forth alone. 35 00:02:20,001 --> 00:02:22,879 You know, if the council votes against rent control, they'll just hang 36 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:23,930 themselves. 37 00:02:23,950 --> 00:02:27,260 I could get to life a story about them twisting the breeze. Morning. 38 00:02:27,350 --> 00:02:28,950 Morning. On the way to Modesto. 39 00:02:29,210 --> 00:02:30,290 Don't forget to write. 40 00:02:30,390 --> 00:02:31,710 It's a riot in a safe prison. 41 00:02:31,711 --> 00:02:34,869 500 prisoners in the yard, 20 guard postings, one already killed. 42 00:02:34,870 --> 00:02:36,610 When did this happen? This morning. 43 00:02:37,290 --> 00:02:38,430 Just came over the wire. 44 00:02:38,431 --> 00:02:41,489 It's been a while since I've found a communication. 45 00:02:41,490 --> 00:02:44,189 Prisoners want to talk to the media. They say they'll exchange one hostage 46 00:02:44,190 --> 00:02:45,729 every interview with a reporter. 47 00:02:45,730 --> 00:02:47,130 That's 150 reporters. 48 00:02:47,450 --> 00:02:49,740 Glad you're here. We'll get you right up there. 49 00:02:50,210 --> 00:02:51,750 I think the senator had the flu. 50 00:02:52,290 --> 00:02:54,980 Flu? Can I talk to you? It has to be now. 51 00:03:00,580 --> 00:03:04,620 I just wanted to remind you we had a deal. The next statewide story was mine. 52 00:03:04,621 --> 00:03:08,259 What about the spy who escaped, Warshawski? I was the first one to get 53 00:03:08,260 --> 00:03:11,620 lawyer in Florida. If they extradite him to L .A., I got an exclusive. 54 00:03:11,621 --> 00:03:12,899 How'd you do that? 55 00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:13,950 The old girl network. 56 00:03:13,951 --> 00:03:17,519 You know I want to expand beyond Metro, and this prison ride is the perfect 57 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:18,570 stepping stone. 58 00:03:18,571 --> 00:03:22,379 Pomeroy's already on his way. Because he got to you first. I was two feet behind 59 00:03:22,380 --> 00:03:25,360 him. No, it's because he's very experienced and very good. 60 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:29,070 He covered Attica and Santa Fe. He's the first one I would have called. 61 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,830 I won't get experienced if I don't get experienced. 62 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,620 Prison ride. I heard about it in the elevator. That's someone up there fast. 63 00:03:39,621 --> 00:03:41,769 There's no commercial carrier out about that. 64 00:03:41,770 --> 00:03:43,030 to Modesto until tonight. 65 00:03:43,031 --> 00:03:45,169 Charter a plane from another airport. 66 00:03:45,170 --> 00:03:46,220 You think so? 67 00:03:46,370 --> 00:03:50,329 We can't wait on this one. It's major. I can feel it. I already checked with Van 68 00:03:50,330 --> 00:03:53,489 Nuys. Danny Evans has been flying up there. Here you go. Why is Danny heading 69 00:03:53,490 --> 00:03:56,380 up? He's been chartered by someone else. Helen Patterson. 70 00:03:57,170 --> 00:03:58,550 She worked for Fordoff. 71 00:03:58,810 --> 00:04:00,470 Time of news week. I forget which. 72 00:04:00,471 --> 00:04:01,789 West Coast bureaucracy. 73 00:04:01,790 --> 00:04:04,569 That woman snapped up stories like a lizard after flies. 74 00:04:04,570 --> 00:04:06,430 Leave it to her to have the only flight. 75 00:04:07,270 --> 00:04:09,030 Negotiate. With Helen Patterson? 76 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:32,920 is going to have to schlep up there. 77 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,130 I promise. 78 00:04:34,580 --> 00:04:36,200 On your grandmother's chest pie. 79 00:04:36,260 --> 00:04:37,640 We'll do it. Uh -huh. 80 00:04:37,860 --> 00:04:39,790 As soon as I get back. Okay, bye, Parker. 81 00:04:43,371 --> 00:04:45,399 Hello, who is this? 82 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,099 Lou Grant, Miss Patterson, Metro Editor of the Tribune. You don't know me, but 83 00:04:49,100 --> 00:04:52,590 you once met our M .E., Charlie Hill, at the press club. Lou, I'm in a hurry. 84 00:04:52,591 --> 00:04:54,039 I know you're flying up to Modesto. 85 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,120 Oh, to make your wire? 86 00:04:55,121 --> 00:04:58,179 We need to get some people up there, and we're in a jam. 87 00:04:58,180 --> 00:05:01,139 Can we hitch a ride with you? Rather like General Montgomery hitching a ride 88 00:05:01,140 --> 00:05:02,190 with Rome. 89 00:05:03,340 --> 00:05:05,900 We are competitors, you and I. 90 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,380 West Coast Daily, the news magazine. 91 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,350 Look, I like to be first on the scene. You get a better motel room, right? 92 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,620 Away from the ice machine. 93 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,140 Or close to it. Depends on your point of view. 94 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,130 Look, we'll even pick up the tab for the charter. How's that? 95 00:05:20,131 --> 00:05:21,059 No doubt. 96 00:05:21,060 --> 00:05:22,740 Put in a giant finger, I'll owe you. 97 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,340 of what they could possibly amount to. 98 00:05:25,341 --> 00:05:28,519 Here's something I really didn't want to bring up. 99 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,719 Stan Friday, the guy that had the job before you? 100 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:31,770 I remember Stan. 101 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,020 I saved his foot on the fluts in 77. 102 00:05:34,021 --> 00:05:37,699 The cover you ran of the cars floating down Laurel Canyon was by a trip post 103 00:05:37,700 --> 00:05:40,220 hoc. Stan's kid missed it. I let him use our stuff. 104 00:05:40,221 --> 00:05:42,279 Oh, I'm paying back a five -year -old debt, right? 105 00:05:42,280 --> 00:05:43,330 Look at it this way. 106 00:05:43,580 --> 00:05:46,770 You'll have someone on the plane to play cards with. I hate cards. 107 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:48,660 How do you person that by 12? 108 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,020 Uh, it might be two persons. 109 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,530 Two? 110 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,100 Thank you very... 111 00:05:53,510 --> 00:05:55,430 Marcellin. Remember, I owe you for this. 112 00:05:56,070 --> 00:05:57,120 I'm writing it down. 113 00:05:57,890 --> 00:05:59,330 Billy, you're going with Ben. 114 00:05:59,331 --> 00:06:02,569 We'll get Fulham for the wires. Great, Lou. Thanks a lot. I've got to take the 115 00:06:02,570 --> 00:06:03,620 clothes in my car. 116 00:06:05,150 --> 00:06:06,290 What's that all about? 117 00:06:06,291 --> 00:06:08,129 Just putting it there for both of you. 118 00:06:08,130 --> 00:06:09,210 Oh, I don't think so. 119 00:06:09,950 --> 00:06:14,129 Look, get up there, check it out, and let us know. Then we'll reassess, all 120 00:06:14,130 --> 00:06:17,269 right? Hey, come on. I got off two minutes ago. I'll give you a ride. 121 00:06:17,270 --> 00:06:19,320 Will you phone Ted and tell him I'll call... 122 00:06:29,230 --> 00:06:30,280 The trip has failed. 123 00:06:30,290 --> 00:06:37,250 Don't I get a shot at it? I hear the line started at 7 .30 a .m. You got a 124 00:06:37,251 --> 00:06:40,029 Allergies. I could get out of bed this morning. 125 00:06:40,030 --> 00:06:41,049 You're getting soft. 126 00:06:41,050 --> 00:06:44,069 You'll feel better when you see what Donovan asked for you from the 127 00:06:44,070 --> 00:06:49,649 desk. What is it? That Julian Sphinx Moss is in danger of extinction. You're 128 00:06:49,650 --> 00:06:51,330 joking. He is not. 129 00:06:51,850 --> 00:06:54,200 It's the hottest bug story we've had in months. 130 00:06:54,290 --> 00:06:56,350 Come on, Rossi. The bee's knees. 131 00:07:10,190 --> 00:07:11,240 in Unicom flight. 132 00:07:33,021 --> 00:07:39,449 What on earth are you doing here? Trying to get the hell up to Modesto. I hear 133 00:07:39,450 --> 00:07:40,650 you've got the only ride. 134 00:07:41,010 --> 00:07:42,870 I could be making money on this flight. 135 00:07:43,110 --> 00:07:45,670 Ben Pomeroy, Billy Newman, from the trip. 136 00:07:45,671 --> 00:07:46,949 Bob O 'Brien. 137 00:07:46,950 --> 00:07:50,489 How are you, Bob? I'm glad to meet you. Your book was the one that made me 138 00:07:50,490 --> 00:07:54,470 finally understand what was going on in Vietnam. I'm really pleased to meet you. 139 00:07:54,471 --> 00:07:55,909 Thank you. That's very kind. 140 00:07:55,910 --> 00:07:57,230 Can we squeeze on one more? 141 00:07:57,231 --> 00:08:01,349 That's a four -seater. We've got a six -seater coming in from Tahoe in about 142 00:08:01,350 --> 00:08:02,400 hours. 143 00:08:02,401 --> 00:08:04,169 Sorry, Bob. 144 00:08:04,170 --> 00:08:05,670 Just can't take the time. 145 00:08:06,730 --> 00:08:07,780 Luck of the Irish. 146 00:08:09,570 --> 00:08:10,750 Good to see you. 147 00:08:12,310 --> 00:08:13,360 Bye. 148 00:08:14,190 --> 00:08:16,530 Go ahead. 149 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,020 at what barley field in Kern County had only lived for seven days. 150 00:08:34,340 --> 00:08:38,440 They thought it was extinct for 50 years, but it was rediscovered in 1978. 151 00:08:38,441 --> 00:08:42,298 Scientists have to keep its breeding ground a secret because for years, 152 00:08:42,299 --> 00:08:45,729 collectors have been searching for this one specific moth species. 153 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,360 I mean, it's a great adventure story. 154 00:08:48,740 --> 00:08:50,910 Just don't take any wool sweaters with you. 155 00:08:51,380 --> 00:08:53,850 Think you can handle this animal? Sure, why not? 156 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,370 Last week, you missed that hostage released at the Lincoln School. 157 00:08:57,371 --> 00:09:00,059 Yeah, the cops wouldn't let us behind their lines. 158 00:09:00,060 --> 00:09:03,070 And yesterday, that congressman got away from you somehow. 159 00:09:03,071 --> 00:09:04,119 Bad luck. 160 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,259 What do you think I should have done? 161 00:09:05,260 --> 00:09:07,910 I think you could have been a little more aggressive. 162 00:09:10,860 --> 00:09:13,690 They're bringing the spy back to L .A. tonight, Wachowski. 163 00:09:13,700 --> 00:09:14,750 Oh, we got him. 164 00:09:15,900 --> 00:09:16,950 L .A. 165 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,100 1493 Victor, Evanston Unicom, over. 166 00:09:25,420 --> 00:09:29,459 Do not proceed to active runway need you to return to ramp one of your 167 00:09:29,460 --> 00:09:30,960 passengers has to get off over 168 00:10:01,770 --> 00:10:04,130 Don't be mad at me. I gotta be mad at somebody. 169 00:10:04,970 --> 00:10:08,810 I'll be honest with you. I really had to rev myself up to fight for this story. 170 00:10:08,950 --> 00:10:14,349 I knew Pomeroy had it locked like he always does. And when you said yes, I 171 00:10:14,350 --> 00:10:17,490 so terrific. Like I'd finally won one over Mr. 172 00:10:17,790 --> 00:10:18,840 Macho Reporter. 173 00:10:20,310 --> 00:10:23,740 This story sounds glamorous. But you know what he's doing right now? 174 00:10:24,310 --> 00:10:29,189 Standing in the rain, drinking cold coffee, waiting for a bunch of 175 00:10:29,190 --> 00:10:30,930 to stop hacking each other to death. 176 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:32,800 Pretty close to heaven, huh? 177 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,010 Charlie, we want to talk to you about the Warshawski spy thing. 178 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:42,650 Charlie? 179 00:10:47,180 --> 00:10:48,230 Bad news. 180 00:10:48,620 --> 00:10:49,670 Terrible news. 181 00:10:50,780 --> 00:10:52,220 I just heard from the airport. 182 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,770 Plane we charted went down over the mountains a couple hours ago. 183 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,090 Survivor? 184 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:02,410 No survivors. 185 00:11:03,300 --> 00:11:04,460 Oh, my God. 186 00:11:05,740 --> 00:11:12,679 Lou Grant will continue in a moment here on 187 00:11:12,680 --> 00:11:13,730 A &E. 188 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,400 Inches of beer on that plane? 189 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:36,920 I was on that plane. 190 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:39,360 It was about time, I guess. 191 00:11:39,940 --> 00:11:40,990 You were lucky. 192 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:42,730 It was fate. 193 00:11:42,731 --> 00:11:46,199 Stop talking about it. I can't believe you're arguing about this. What 194 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:47,460 difference does it make? 195 00:11:48,420 --> 00:11:51,080 Here's all they had on Ben and his personnel file. 196 00:11:51,540 --> 00:11:52,590 I can't. 197 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,280 Ben Pomeroy. 198 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,480 Born Manhattan, August 4th, 1940. 199 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,440 Mother, Ingrid Sexton. 200 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:02,160 Father, Judge Samuel Pomeroy. 201 00:12:02,780 --> 00:12:04,460 First Circuit Court, Long Island. 202 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:06,450 Hobbies? 203 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:08,920 Needlepoint and nude volleyball. 204 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:11,490 Wise guy. 205 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:13,520 Has anybody called Ted? 206 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,330 Oh, my God. He's going to think I was on that plane. I've got to call Ted. 207 00:12:21,220 --> 00:12:23,630 All hell's breaking loose in Modesto, you know. 208 00:12:24,680 --> 00:12:27,090 I'm going to have to send somebody else up there. 209 00:12:29,940 --> 00:12:32,530 Don't look at me like that. You were thinking of this. 210 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,170 Put Rosenthal on the next commercial flight. 211 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,160 It's me. 212 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:44,600 I'm all right. I'm okay. 213 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,520 A plane went down, didn't you hear? 214 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,130 Yeah. 215 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,320 I was on it, but I got off before it left. 216 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,010 I'm okay. 217 00:13:04,070 --> 00:13:05,310 Everybody was killed. 218 00:13:06,930 --> 00:13:10,000 They don't know what happened yet. Could you hold on a minute? 219 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,150 It used to range 37 miles up and down the sandhills of the Pacific shoreline. 220 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,970 Now it's been reduced to a tiny plot in the middle of an oil refinery. 221 00:14:24,140 --> 00:14:28,379 But a local butterfly protection society convinced the oil company to fence off 222 00:14:28,380 --> 00:14:29,940 the habitat to save the species. 223 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,459 So that's where it lives, in this tiny little island in the middle of the 224 00:14:34,460 --> 00:14:35,900 asphalt. Too bad. 225 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,170 Well, that's the way the world would look in the year 2000. 226 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,540 Only the weed species will survive. 227 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,320 You won't see a red wolf or bald eagle in the wild. 228 00:14:45,930 --> 00:14:47,430 It'll be you and me, hopefully. 229 00:14:49,810 --> 00:14:51,970 Cockroaches, mosquitoes, and dandelions. 230 00:14:52,450 --> 00:14:53,500 Here we are. 231 00:14:53,501 --> 00:14:57,689 What's so important about this moth? I mean, what would happen if it didn't 232 00:14:57,690 --> 00:14:59,430 quite make it? Jeez, Rothy. 233 00:14:59,830 --> 00:15:00,880 I mean it. 234 00:15:01,150 --> 00:15:03,570 Other animals would die, too, and plants. 235 00:15:03,571 --> 00:15:07,409 Ecosystems would be destroyed. Actually, it's hard to make a case for the 236 00:15:07,410 --> 00:15:08,460 individual species. 237 00:15:09,030 --> 00:15:13,249 I can't tell you what the ecological consequences would be if the Julian 238 00:15:13,250 --> 00:15:14,249 moth became extinct. 239 00:15:14,250 --> 00:15:15,279 Why not? 240 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,290 But we simply don't know enough about this particular moth. 241 00:15:18,540 --> 00:15:22,460 There are 10 billion species of plants and animals on Earth. 242 00:15:22,940 --> 00:15:25,880 Of those, only a million and a half even have names. 243 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:27,800 That's how much we don't know. 244 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,350 Boy, I thought you guys had that stuff wrapped. 245 00:15:30,980 --> 00:15:35,600 The species, like this, are becoming extinct even before we discover them. 246 00:15:36,380 --> 00:15:39,810 Organisms are disappearing before we know how they can be useful to 247 00:15:39,811 --> 00:15:41,759 Useful how? 248 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:42,810 Oh, gosh. 249 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:43,930 Let's see. 250 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:45,450 But here. 251 00:15:46,380 --> 00:15:50,600 Here's a butterfly from the Orient that contains a tumor -reducing compound. 252 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,850 Armadillos are becoming important in the study of leprosy. 253 00:15:54,940 --> 00:15:59,320 A South American rodent, the capybara, has an anti -leukemia agent in its 254 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,330 And these things have been found just in the last 20 years. 255 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,770 What about this, Mark? What's its importance? 256 00:16:05,540 --> 00:16:08,610 Look, I understand the instinct to relate everything to man. 257 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,740 And what can this organism do for us? 258 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,540 But we really are part of the game. 259 00:16:14,010 --> 00:16:17,930 The fewer species there are, the poorer our lives will be. 260 00:16:18,190 --> 00:16:21,140 You mean people won't get to look at butterflies anymore? 261 00:16:22,090 --> 00:16:26,769 Look, endangered species like these are symptoms of endangered biological 262 00:16:26,770 --> 00:16:27,820 resources. 263 00:16:28,530 --> 00:16:32,829 The demise of the Julian Sphinx moth is just another quietly stated subtle 264 00:16:32,830 --> 00:16:34,210 little warning from nature. 265 00:16:34,910 --> 00:16:35,960 Pay attention. 266 00:16:37,190 --> 00:16:38,240 Now. 267 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,370 I suppose. 268 00:16:51,620 --> 00:16:54,640 I don't know why I agreed to this. 269 00:16:55,300 --> 00:16:58,180 Why should I give the eulogy? I'm the one responsible. 270 00:16:59,020 --> 00:17:00,700 I won't have you blaming yourself. 271 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,260 Pretty hard not to. 272 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,670 Charlie, I could have said charter a plane just as easily as you. 273 00:17:05,839 --> 00:17:08,000 Yeah, but you didn't. It was a fluke. 274 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,630 I think the crash is due to icing conditions, but they won't know for 275 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,290 It's a few hours. 276 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,500 I'd have waited for a commercial flight. 277 00:17:17,501 --> 00:17:21,848 Shouldn't have pushed it. They were running for a heartbreaking story. Any 278 00:17:21,849 --> 00:17:23,348 of us would have gotten on that plane. 279 00:17:23,349 --> 00:17:26,649 Anything you say at that memorial service would be more satisfying than 280 00:17:26,650 --> 00:17:28,270 obituaries I read in the Tribune. 281 00:17:28,271 --> 00:17:31,789 What's wrong with them? I didn't get anything from what you ran except the 282 00:17:31,790 --> 00:17:34,330 usual. This one was a crack reporter. 283 00:17:34,331 --> 00:17:37,869 They had an independent woman and a brilliant interviewer. And this one 284 00:17:37,870 --> 00:17:39,229 famous book. Isn't there more? 285 00:17:39,230 --> 00:17:41,820 I guess because they were reporters, we backed off. 286 00:17:42,210 --> 00:17:45,810 These reporters died trying to get a story. That's a story. 287 00:17:46,010 --> 00:17:48,780 I want to know who they were, why they were on that plane. 288 00:17:48,781 --> 00:17:52,179 I agree with Charlie's instinct. I'd be afraid of that. It's self -serving. 289 00:17:52,180 --> 00:17:54,160 Well, I don't understand, you're clear. 290 00:17:54,260 --> 00:17:56,300 These are tough, competitive reporters. 291 00:17:56,301 --> 00:17:59,219 Each of them must have been driven. Why look too closely? 292 00:17:59,220 --> 00:18:03,200 There may be things about ourselves as journalists we'd rather not find out. 293 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,000 Lou Grant will continue in a moment here on A &E. 294 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:16,199 Lou, Art told me about the feature on Palmer and Patterson and O 'Brien, and I 295 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,250 want to be involved. 296 00:18:17,830 --> 00:18:20,780 You sure you really want to put yourself through all that? 297 00:18:20,781 --> 00:18:24,009 I don't know how else I'm going to stop having nightmares. 298 00:18:24,010 --> 00:18:25,430 And feeling so guilty. 299 00:18:26,690 --> 00:18:32,149 And to think I'm so grateful it wasn't me. And sickened and just amazed by my 300 00:18:32,150 --> 00:18:33,200 own dumb luck. 301 00:18:33,850 --> 00:18:35,230 Why them and not me? 302 00:18:35,690 --> 00:18:38,220 You're not going to figure that out in 1 ,500 words. 303 00:18:38,310 --> 00:18:41,380 The only way I know how to get through this is to write about it. 304 00:18:43,850 --> 00:18:44,900 Okay. 305 00:18:45,690 --> 00:18:47,250 You take Pomeroy and O 'Brien. 306 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,140 I'll research Helen Patterson. Why? 307 00:18:51,620 --> 00:18:52,880 I told her I owed her one. 308 00:18:56,340 --> 00:18:59,170 I don't want you going up there with all those followers. 309 00:18:59,740 --> 00:19:02,570 Okay, I'll take a lot of pills. This is an important story. 310 00:19:02,780 --> 00:19:06,279 You'll kill yourself. You did it last year, too, and then you're on a 311 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,220 for two weeks. Animal, you do it alone. 312 00:19:08,221 --> 00:19:12,279 Your allergic nose will thank me for it. Okay, but you're going to hear from a 313 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,330 lot of this boss. 314 00:19:15,540 --> 00:19:17,400 Pomeroy was the reporter's reporter. 315 00:19:17,401 --> 00:19:18,979 Do you know that he also had a law degree? 316 00:19:18,980 --> 00:19:22,479 Covered every war in the last 15 years. He'd go anywhere where it was really 317 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:27,539 bad. Went to Palermo to cover the mafia, Culiacan, Mexico to cover the drug 318 00:19:27,540 --> 00:19:31,779 trade. When the U .S. and Cambodian governments couldn't have cared less, he 319 00:19:31,780 --> 00:19:35,219 hired mercenaries to go in and retrieve the bodies of reporters who were killed 320 00:19:35,220 --> 00:19:36,270 in Cambodia. 321 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,970 You know what he did after the assassination of Sadat, don't you? No, 322 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,360 Oh, this is famous. What? 323 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,750 Well, he was in Rome on a vacation when he first heard the news. 324 00:19:45,020 --> 00:19:46,400 He does not wait a second. 325 00:19:46,910 --> 00:19:50,989 He charters an executive jet. A jet, mind you. Puts it on his credit card and 326 00:19:50,990 --> 00:19:52,070 takes it off for Cairo. 327 00:19:52,071 --> 00:19:56,029 Knowing the paper would pay for it. I find that hard to believe. 328 00:19:56,030 --> 00:19:57,430 That the paper would pay. 329 00:19:58,410 --> 00:19:59,460 It's true. 330 00:20:00,770 --> 00:20:03,180 It's true. He had Mr. Pynchon eaten out of his hand. 331 00:20:03,181 --> 00:20:06,009 Nobody knew him better than I did. It's true. 332 00:20:06,010 --> 00:20:07,330 How did you get to know him? 333 00:20:07,331 --> 00:20:10,389 I used to drive him to the airport a lot. Bring him back, you know, when he 334 00:20:10,390 --> 00:20:12,430 in. He pretty often traveled. 335 00:20:13,630 --> 00:20:15,450 I'd pick up his mail, you know. 336 00:20:15,451 --> 00:20:16,779 to take care of his dog. 337 00:20:16,780 --> 00:20:18,640 You consider Pomeroy a close friend? 338 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:20,170 Oh, great friend. 339 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,519 I mean, we were buddies. We used to stop by this bar at the marina where they 340 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,320 had this turtle race. I know that place. It's a real single scene. 341 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,370 What about his wife? How did she feel about it? Ex -wife. 342 00:20:31,780 --> 00:20:32,830 That's how. 343 00:20:34,740 --> 00:20:37,420 Lance packed up Ben's things. 344 00:20:37,421 --> 00:20:41,239 Yeah, that was real sweet of him. I think I'll just go through and take the 345 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,620 things that mean something. 346 00:20:44,610 --> 00:20:45,870 I'm sorry, where were we? 347 00:20:46,690 --> 00:20:49,040 I think you were saying you were married young. 348 00:20:49,810 --> 00:20:51,110 Oh, yes, in college. 349 00:20:52,530 --> 00:20:54,580 And then I majored in being the new bride. 350 00:20:55,350 --> 00:20:57,210 You know, lunch with the girlfriends. 351 00:20:58,270 --> 00:20:59,350 Cooking and shopping. 352 00:20:59,590 --> 00:21:00,750 That would sound bad. 353 00:21:03,090 --> 00:21:04,140 I got restless. 354 00:21:04,141 --> 00:21:08,989 I tried a lot of things before I opened the cookware store, and I was lousy at 355 00:21:08,990 --> 00:21:10,040 all of them. 356 00:21:10,050 --> 00:21:12,050 Ben was. 357 00:21:13,991 --> 00:21:16,589 He was real patient with me. 358 00:21:16,590 --> 00:21:19,240 He was involved with his work at the time, wasn't he? 359 00:21:19,390 --> 00:21:20,440 Yeah. 360 00:21:20,970 --> 00:21:22,410 It was real difficult then. 361 00:21:25,510 --> 00:21:27,250 I'm sorry. Can we go someplace else? 362 00:21:27,330 --> 00:21:28,380 I'm sorry. 363 00:21:47,630 --> 00:21:48,680 Can you tell me? 364 00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:55,530 My son decided that I was as creative as he was. 365 00:21:57,390 --> 00:21:59,310 And I wanted to do something wonderful. 366 00:21:59,690 --> 00:22:01,190 That doesn't sound so unusual. 367 00:22:01,790 --> 00:22:02,890 Or so terrible. 368 00:22:05,610 --> 00:22:08,980 When I opened the cookware store, that was the beginning of the end. 369 00:22:10,150 --> 00:22:14,270 I was so busy and... Ben said I was neglecting him. 370 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:21,379 Suddenly we both had schedules and... At the end of the day, Ben would bring 371 00:22:21,380 --> 00:22:22,939 half the city room home with him. 372 00:22:22,940 --> 00:22:24,300 All young reporters. 373 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,080 They thought the world of him. 374 00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:33,490 But I wasn't as interested in his friends as I should have been. 375 00:22:35,060 --> 00:22:37,080 They were all 22 years old. 376 00:22:38,860 --> 00:22:41,870 Didn't he understand your need to do something on your own? 377 00:22:42,900 --> 00:22:43,950 No, not very well. 378 00:22:44,300 --> 00:22:45,380 It sounds like... 379 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:47,850 Never mind. 380 00:22:49,700 --> 00:22:50,750 What? 381 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,740 I was just thinking... Maybe you outgrew him. 382 00:22:56,220 --> 00:22:57,300 I outgrew him. 383 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,380 No, that's impossible. 384 00:23:02,740 --> 00:23:04,060 Look what he achieved. 385 00:23:06,500 --> 00:23:08,440 How can what I've done ever equal that? 386 00:23:10,820 --> 00:23:13,360 Lou wants moths? I'll get him moths. 387 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,380 So, what's on your mind? 388 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:16,810 Ben Pomeroy. 389 00:23:17,100 --> 00:23:20,220 I just wanted to ask you a few questions. 390 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:21,800 Now is not a good time. 391 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,720 What is this? 392 00:23:24,300 --> 00:23:28,839 Reporters love to talk about him, and I can't get one photo or one editor to 393 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:29,890 open up. 394 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,800 When I first got here, Pomeroy took me under his wing, showed me the ropes. 395 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,560 He loved doing that, and we got along great. 396 00:23:39,980 --> 00:23:42,660 Yeah? Yeah, we did a series on Watts together. 397 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,700 I remember that. 398 00:23:45,210 --> 00:23:46,260 It never ran. 399 00:23:46,390 --> 00:23:51,810 He wanted portraits, skylines, dawn, dusk. I was overshooting like crazy. 400 00:23:52,110 --> 00:23:53,160 You know why? 401 00:23:53,270 --> 00:23:57,309 His story didn't have it. And he was hoping the pictures would pull him out. 402 00:23:57,310 --> 00:24:00,449 couldn't go to the desk and say, hell, it's not working. I would have blown the 403 00:24:00,450 --> 00:24:01,500 image. 404 00:24:02,150 --> 00:24:03,830 A lot of people bought that image. 405 00:24:04,190 --> 00:24:06,300 Yeah, being a winner was important to him. 406 00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:07,910 Made him a good reporter. 407 00:24:08,130 --> 00:24:10,050 But it made him impossible to work with. 408 00:24:10,750 --> 00:24:13,410 I feel awful saying this about a guy who just died. 409 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,990 I was always very competitive with Ben myself. 410 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,380 Maybe it was the man -woman thing. 411 00:24:20,300 --> 00:24:23,160 You know, I never saw him with guys his own age. 412 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,300 He only hung out with younger reporters. He always had to be the teacher. 413 00:24:27,540 --> 00:24:32,279 I talked to his ex -wife, and Pomeroy was very unhappy when she started her 414 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,620 business. She ventured out on her own, and he felt threatened. 415 00:24:35,621 --> 00:24:39,139 Listen, he felt threatened when I told him we didn't need another shot of Watts 416 00:24:39,140 --> 00:24:40,190 Towers. 417 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:41,970 Oh, boy. 418 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,740 Not going to be easy to write, is it? 419 00:24:44,620 --> 00:24:47,210 Guys in the city room aren't going to like this much. 420 00:24:47,220 --> 00:24:50,060 And anyway, why should I expose him? The man is dead. 421 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:51,770 Look at it this way. 422 00:24:52,180 --> 00:24:53,680 He'd have done the same for you. 423 00:25:01,060 --> 00:25:02,820 I guess this one's all yours. 424 00:25:04,020 --> 00:25:05,480 Don't be a sore loser, Newman. 425 00:25:05,980 --> 00:25:07,030 Next time. 426 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,260 Then if the inmates ask for you... Tell them I send my love. 427 00:25:10,580 --> 00:25:11,630 Right. 428 00:25:14,410 --> 00:25:16,460 You drive carefully on your way back now. 429 00:25:28,670 --> 00:25:32,310 Lou Grant will continue in a moment here on A &E. 430 00:25:34,210 --> 00:25:35,590 Where's your friend Rossi? 431 00:25:35,910 --> 00:25:38,650 Ah, here's Alex. Kicked up on the screen with a toad. 432 00:25:39,450 --> 00:25:40,770 Well, I'm glad you're here. 433 00:25:40,771 --> 00:25:46,329 Little pressure to get this one. I hope this is the right week for Sphinx, Mom. 434 00:25:46,330 --> 00:25:48,769 Well, this is the place. We're still five miles away. 435 00:25:48,770 --> 00:25:51,240 But it looks like a potential for another colony. 436 00:26:09,210 --> 00:26:12,160 Where are we looking for them? They fly close to the ground. 437 00:26:13,420 --> 00:26:15,220 Or they'll be sunning themselves. 438 00:26:15,221 --> 00:26:18,259 Sunning themselves? You mean like people? 439 00:26:18,260 --> 00:26:23,219 Yes. They bask in the sun until their bodies absorb enough heat to be able to 440 00:26:23,220 --> 00:26:24,660 fly. No kidding. 441 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:52,970 He's Wilbur. 442 00:26:52,971 --> 00:26:56,239 This is Dennis Price. He works for the Tribune. Hello there, Dennis. 443 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,799 I've read many of your articles with great pleasure, Dr. Wilbur. 444 00:26:58,800 --> 00:26:59,759 I've read yours. 445 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,239 I don't know what luck you've had with the Populani guy, but I just took the 446 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,980 copulating pair in mint condition. 447 00:27:04,981 --> 00:27:07,559 They were hill -topping it on that ridge over there. 448 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:08,610 Great. Thanks. 449 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,750 Have they still got you working on the Julian Sphinx moth? 450 00:27:12,380 --> 00:27:13,940 Well, that's one of my projects. 451 00:27:13,941 --> 00:27:16,519 Have you found the breeding ground? 452 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,260 The Julian is endangered, Colonel. 453 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,900 Well, it's not on the endangered list. 454 00:27:21,050 --> 00:27:22,850 Well, we're fighting to get it there. 455 00:27:22,851 --> 00:27:26,889 Look, I can't force you, but I strongly request that you not collect that 456 00:27:26,890 --> 00:27:28,730 species. We could lose it altogether. 457 00:27:29,550 --> 00:27:32,980 As you see, doctor, I'd rather wait for a healthy population anyway. 458 00:27:33,650 --> 00:27:34,810 Well, have a nice day. 459 00:27:38,590 --> 00:27:39,910 That guy's one of the worst. 460 00:27:40,550 --> 00:27:44,040 Big amateur collector, and all he cares about is completing his list. 461 00:27:44,130 --> 00:27:46,600 They buy catalogs and match them with specimens. 462 00:27:46,910 --> 00:27:48,410 We call them stamp collectors. 463 00:27:48,411 --> 00:27:52,549 I get the feeling he really wants to go home with a Julian Sphinx mouth today. 464 00:27:52,550 --> 00:27:53,600 You bet. 465 00:27:53,601 --> 00:27:56,909 Once they're on the threatened list, that's when those guys really want him. 466 00:27:56,910 --> 00:27:58,110 How much are they worth? 467 00:27:58,390 --> 00:27:59,440 Perfect male? 468 00:27:59,990 --> 00:28:01,040 Maybe $700. 469 00:28:02,970 --> 00:28:05,620 I wanted to know how you're doing on a triple profile. 470 00:28:05,621 --> 00:28:08,449 Billy's got what she needs on Palmerwood, but she's having trouble 471 00:28:08,450 --> 00:28:10,310 'Brien. He's a lot harder to track down. 472 00:28:10,410 --> 00:28:14,050 From what I hear, he was a reclusive guy. He had a drinking problem. 473 00:28:14,051 --> 00:28:17,069 Billy says his life was more depressing than his death. 474 00:28:17,070 --> 00:28:19,670 Not much family. He was withdrawn, antisocial. 475 00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:23,120 She'll try to find something redeeming, but I don't know. 476 00:28:23,570 --> 00:28:26,150 Talk to Stan Bristol down in San Diego. 477 00:28:26,450 --> 00:28:29,460 O 'Brien worked there while he was writing the Vietnam book. 478 00:28:29,790 --> 00:28:31,900 You know, that's the shame about O 'Brien. 479 00:28:31,950 --> 00:28:33,330 Could have been a superstar. 480 00:28:33,690 --> 00:28:37,240 Could have sunk into obscurity. With him, it could have gone either way. 481 00:28:38,030 --> 00:28:39,080 Okay, this will help. 482 00:28:39,650 --> 00:28:41,630 When do you think you'll have the story? 483 00:28:41,970 --> 00:28:43,020 Next week. 484 00:28:43,130 --> 00:28:44,330 See if you can hurry it up. 485 00:28:54,990 --> 00:28:57,630 Brian for you. Oh, great. Thanks a lot. 486 00:28:58,110 --> 00:28:59,160 How you coming? 487 00:28:59,230 --> 00:29:01,210 Any answers to those cosmic questions? 488 00:29:01,550 --> 00:29:04,510 I wish. So far, it's all just depressing me. 489 00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:08,140 I don't want to get started on Helen Patterson. I'll let you know. 490 00:29:10,770 --> 00:29:11,820 Brad. 491 00:29:18,730 --> 00:29:20,840 Don't let your editing to push you around. 492 00:29:21,070 --> 00:29:22,990 Well, this other story's mine, too. Oh. 493 00:29:23,740 --> 00:29:26,450 There's a story around that won't have your name on it. 494 00:29:26,740 --> 00:29:29,360 Step on somebody's toes once upon a time. 495 00:29:29,361 --> 00:29:30,399 How 496 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:40,199 long 497 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,820 did you work for Ellen Pedersen? 498 00:29:42,780 --> 00:29:45,320 Only six months, but that's about all I could take. 499 00:29:45,321 --> 00:29:46,679 Want some cream? 500 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,780 No, no thanks. 501 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,840 What was the problem? 502 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,940 She wanted everything typed perfect. 503 00:29:51,941 --> 00:29:57,399 You know, in a manuscript, you can get away with whiting it out. But letters? 504 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,450 Forget it. 505 00:29:58,780 --> 00:30:00,640 She'd make you do the whole thing over. 506 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:02,980 What was the manuscript? 507 00:30:03,260 --> 00:30:05,790 It was this book she was writing on women in prison. 508 00:30:05,980 --> 00:30:09,100 I couldn't stand to read it. All those pitiful stories. 509 00:30:09,101 --> 00:30:11,879 Why couldn't she pick something cheerful? 510 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,480 She was famous for her interviews with difficult people. 511 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,320 Did she ever talk about that? 512 00:30:17,321 --> 00:30:18,319 Not much. 513 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,180 She once asked me if I liked this dress she had on. 514 00:30:21,181 --> 00:30:22,599 Really? Yeah. 515 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,260 Well, she wanted to make the right impression on famous people, I guess. 516 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,340 She didn't know how to dress. 517 00:30:28,860 --> 00:30:30,340 Always the same old stuff. 518 00:30:30,700 --> 00:30:31,780 You told her all that? 519 00:30:32,060 --> 00:30:33,600 It tacked away, of course. 520 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,780 She asked me about a lot of things. 521 00:30:36,781 --> 00:30:38,179 Such as? 522 00:30:38,180 --> 00:30:39,720 She'd bounce ideas off me. 523 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,419 Like if she was writing a book or an article, she'd ask me if I want to read 524 00:30:44,420 --> 00:30:45,470 as a consumer. 525 00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:48,160 Sounds like you got along. 526 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:49,620 She was kooky. 527 00:30:50,030 --> 00:30:51,350 No men in her life. 528 00:30:51,630 --> 00:30:53,530 You know, everything was so serious. 529 00:30:53,870 --> 00:30:55,810 And the job just wasn't any fun. 530 00:30:56,470 --> 00:31:01,050 Could I see the manuscript on prisons? 531 00:31:01,370 --> 00:31:04,490 I sent it back to her son, along with the rest of her things. 532 00:31:06,110 --> 00:31:07,160 What? 533 00:31:07,750 --> 00:31:10,280 You know, to get me up on one of those little planes. 534 00:31:16,679 --> 00:31:20,519 Yes, she was the first reporter I had rolled out in my house. I've had bad 535 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:21,899 experiences with the press. 536 00:31:21,900 --> 00:31:23,080 I'm sorry to hear that. 537 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,460 A lot of famous events took place at this house. 538 00:31:29,820 --> 00:31:33,479 Eisenhower, Nixon, Johnson. They all came here for advice at one time or 539 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,530 another. 540 00:31:34,531 --> 00:31:36,499 You've evidently read my biography. 541 00:31:36,500 --> 00:31:37,550 Pray please. 542 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,820 Actually, the best source on you is the profile Helen Patterson wrote. 543 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,280 She really told it all. 544 00:31:43,540 --> 00:31:44,590 Yes. 545 00:31:44,591 --> 00:31:46,799 I guess you didn't like it very much when it appeared. 546 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,320 To the contrary. I thought it was marvelous. 547 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,900 They say she was tough. 548 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,260 Did you two get into some arguments? 549 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,480 I do remember some long -term teachings. 550 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,840 She seemed to fit into the background. 551 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,700 I grew used to having her around. I liked her. 552 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:15,230 He was an awkward, homely type of woman with that... That problem and all. 553 00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:18,070 But she certainly knew how to listen. 554 00:32:18,770 --> 00:32:19,820 Did you know her? 555 00:32:20,110 --> 00:32:23,450 Only by reputation and one conversation on the phone. 556 00:32:24,250 --> 00:32:25,300 I liked her too. 557 00:32:26,030 --> 00:32:28,570 God only knows what kind of life she had. 558 00:32:29,230 --> 00:32:32,060 Seems she gave it all to the people she was interviewing. 559 00:32:33,150 --> 00:32:35,370 What exactly do you think she gave you? 560 00:32:38,990 --> 00:32:40,040 Understanding. 561 00:32:42,231 --> 00:32:48,679 Absolutely no one knows where this breeding ground is? Well, just the man 562 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,350 rediscovered the Julian Mosque, the museum, and the farmer who owns the 563 00:32:52,351 --> 00:32:54,299 It's fun, actually, and he's proud of it. 564 00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:57,659 He won't even tell his kids which field it is. Now, what do we do once we find 565 00:32:57,660 --> 00:32:58,239 the Mosque? 566 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,099 Well, it's a mark, release, and recapture study to determine the present 567 00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:02,150 population. 568 00:33:30,581 --> 00:33:32,289 What's up, Taylor? 569 00:33:32,290 --> 00:33:34,429 Well, I suppose we're both headed for the same place. 570 00:33:34,430 --> 00:33:35,480 No, I don't think so. 571 00:33:35,870 --> 00:33:37,930 Well, a museum doesn't own that moth. 572 00:33:37,931 --> 00:33:41,029 You're not the only ones that have a right to collect it. This species will 573 00:33:41,030 --> 00:33:43,769 destroyed by over -collecting. You have no right to withhold this from the 574 00:33:43,770 --> 00:33:45,889 public. I've been studying this for a lifetime. 575 00:33:45,890 --> 00:33:48,489 Don't pretend to be a scientist. You're nothing but a selfish, greedy creep. 576 00:33:48,490 --> 00:33:52,230 You've gone too far. No, you've gone too far. Now, that's it. The study's over. 577 00:33:52,490 --> 00:33:53,750 No one will see the Julian. 578 00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:55,070 We're going back to L .A. 579 00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:02,890 I'm just finding out my mother kept lots of secrets. 580 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,410 From you? 581 00:34:04,580 --> 00:34:05,720 From the world, I guess. 582 00:34:06,340 --> 00:34:09,020 I was raised by my dad, you know, in Washington, D .C. 583 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,080 Hardly saw my mother at all growing up. 584 00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:16,219 I didn't really get to know her at all until I came out here for college. 585 00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:19,260 She always worked, as long as you can remember. 586 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:20,970 Oh, yeah. 587 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:26,718 I remember once she took me to Rumpelmeyer's in New York for ice cream 588 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,658 other kids. 589 00:34:27,659 --> 00:34:30,520 who turned out to be Caroline and John Kennedy Jr. 590 00:34:30,521 --> 00:34:33,839 She'd been doing a profile on the president. 591 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,178 Was that exciting, seeing your mother as a well -known journalist? 592 00:34:37,179 --> 00:34:41,379 I guess that's about all I saw her as. I mean, she'd visit maybe three times a 593 00:34:41,380 --> 00:34:46,259 year. It was tough for a woman to have a career and family in those days, but 594 00:34:46,260 --> 00:34:47,659 she did a worse job than most. 595 00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:53,120 Once you got to know her, what was she like? 596 00:34:53,380 --> 00:34:54,940 It wasn't easy for me to know her. 597 00:34:54,941 --> 00:34:58,739 Maybe she wouldn't have gotten on that plane if I'd been more insistent about 598 00:34:58,740 --> 00:34:59,820 seeing her that night. 599 00:34:59,821 --> 00:35:04,039 From what I know about your mother, I don't think anything would have stopped 600 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,400 her. Still, it was easier not to push it. We were just both feeling our way. 601 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,560 When she said she couldn't make it, I was relieved. 602 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,320 Don't lay that on yourself. 603 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:16,940 Let me show you something. 604 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,540 I just found this yesterday. 605 00:35:19,340 --> 00:35:21,630 She generally didn't let people in this room. 606 00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:23,540 I don't know why she... 607 00:35:24,140 --> 00:35:25,740 She never let me see this before. 608 00:35:57,450 --> 00:36:00,750 Lou Brandt will continue in a moment here on A &E. 609 00:36:01,490 --> 00:36:02,790 To Lou Brandt. 610 00:36:05,150 --> 00:36:06,200 Come in. 611 00:36:07,250 --> 00:36:08,450 Sorry it didn't work out. 612 00:36:08,770 --> 00:36:10,730 Well, don't check out yet. 613 00:36:11,010 --> 00:36:12,570 There's still a chance it might. 614 00:36:12,571 --> 00:36:15,869 Keith, I've been here two days and I'm going back empty -handed. 615 00:36:15,870 --> 00:36:17,190 You want to face my editor? 616 00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:18,800 I have an idea. 617 00:36:18,970 --> 00:36:21,230 It's kind of off the wall, but it might work. 618 00:36:21,231 --> 00:36:24,069 Well, I'm not the one you've got to convince. 619 00:36:24,070 --> 00:36:25,120 On a good day. 620 00:36:25,420 --> 00:36:29,300 Bob could be witty, wise, best companion you could want. Yeah. 621 00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:32,500 But they were bad days? 622 00:36:32,780 --> 00:36:36,719 The black hole, that's what he called it. Just coming out of your basic black 623 00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:38,760 hole, he'd say, but onward and upward. 624 00:36:39,740 --> 00:36:41,480 You mean he was depressed a lot? 625 00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:45,779 Well, after 20 years in the business, Bob had evolved a certain view of 626 00:36:45,780 --> 00:36:49,720 that we were selfish, petty, and incapable of being saved. 627 00:36:50,140 --> 00:36:53,740 I don't hold that opinion myself, except during election years. 628 00:36:55,660 --> 00:36:56,710 Was he married? 629 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,180 He was divorced twice. 630 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,900 Why? Drinking, maybe? 631 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:06,059 Well, his first wife said that she went crazy because all he could worry about 632 00:37:06,060 --> 00:37:07,220 was writing. 633 00:37:07,740 --> 00:37:11,290 And his second wife went crazy because all he could worry about was not 634 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:12,900 Do you have his book? 635 00:37:12,901 --> 00:37:14,139 Oh, yeah. 636 00:37:14,140 --> 00:37:16,380 What was he like when he was working on this? 637 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,580 Oh, he worked like crazy on that for over two years, but still didn't have 638 00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:23,960 So, he took a leave of absence. 639 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,559 Went to New Hampshire, lived in a cabin in the woods, and came forth with the 640 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,170 manuscript. That seems pretty disciplined to somebody with a drinking 641 00:37:32,180 --> 00:37:33,640 There's a paradox about Bob. 642 00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:38,179 There was discipline and dedication that went through him like a steel bar, but 643 00:37:38,180 --> 00:37:39,230 also despair. 644 00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:41,280 Even when the book became a bestseller? 645 00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:45,179 Oh, he was high on it for a while, had all sorts of offers, including a two 646 00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:46,230 -book contract. 647 00:37:46,231 --> 00:37:50,299 Which he turned down? Which he accepted, and then had a nervous breakdown over 648 00:37:50,300 --> 00:37:53,879 it. Just didn't think that he could write another book as brilliantly as the 649 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,200 first. He froze. 650 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,980 He sank to the bottom. 651 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,590 Terrified. Did you see him much during that period? 652 00:38:01,660 --> 00:38:03,580 No, nobody saw him. He just dropped out. 653 00:38:03,581 --> 00:38:07,899 Well, I can tell you where he went. However, if you want to follow that dark 654 00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:13,200 trail... What is the name of the ice hockey team from St. Louis, Missouri? 655 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,610 Oh, I know it! 656 00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:33,910 You'll be able to watch that on Triple Pile Park. 657 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:20,610 about Bob O 'Brien. 658 00:39:21,660 --> 00:39:23,580 He left here about six months ago. 659 00:39:24,180 --> 00:39:28,140 Excuse me, miss, but are you talking about Bob O 'Brien? 660 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,530 Yes. 661 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:32,760 Man, that wasn't fair. 662 00:39:33,180 --> 00:39:36,640 I can't believe it. And I was going to show him my outline next week. 663 00:39:37,140 --> 00:39:38,800 I'm writing a story about him. 664 00:39:39,220 --> 00:39:42,920 An obituary, actually, and I need to know what he was like when he lived 665 00:39:43,180 --> 00:39:46,420 When they brought him into detox, he was half dead. 666 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,920 He stabilized, and then he came here. 667 00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:52,020 Turned out to be one of our more outgoing residents. 668 00:39:52,090 --> 00:39:54,470 I could relate to him because of the booze. 669 00:39:54,690 --> 00:39:57,890 But also, he understood what I was trying to say. 670 00:39:57,891 --> 00:39:59,289 What do you mean? 671 00:39:59,290 --> 00:40:00,730 I mean, in my stories. 672 00:40:00,970 --> 00:40:02,490 He would read my stories. 673 00:40:02,990 --> 00:40:07,090 Bob eventually hired Lionel to do research for him on prisoners who write. 674 00:40:07,390 --> 00:40:10,210 Well, I've been inside a few times, so I know. 675 00:40:10,570 --> 00:40:13,350 But also, he really liked my stuff. 676 00:40:13,870 --> 00:40:15,490 You mean he could take your work? 677 00:40:15,550 --> 00:40:17,190 Yeah, and he had rules. 678 00:40:17,191 --> 00:40:20,749 And if you didn't follow him, he wouldn't have nothing to do with you. 679 00:40:20,750 --> 00:40:22,530 Like, you had to write every day. 680 00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:24,310 You had to keep a journal. 681 00:40:24,790 --> 00:40:26,650 You had to make a schedule of your plot. 682 00:40:26,890 --> 00:40:28,910 And then you had to put it on index cards. 683 00:40:28,911 --> 00:40:32,449 And that's what I was going to show him next week. 684 00:40:32,450 --> 00:40:34,569 Did he work with other people here as well? 685 00:40:34,570 --> 00:40:35,609 No, ma 'am. 686 00:40:35,610 --> 00:40:36,870 I'm the only other writer. 687 00:40:37,210 --> 00:40:38,550 So he trusted me, you see. 688 00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:40,570 Trusted you? How? 689 00:40:40,870 --> 00:40:43,520 I used to go over to his place and type up stuff for him. 690 00:40:43,690 --> 00:40:45,270 So he gave me an extra set of keys. 691 00:40:46,090 --> 00:40:47,140 See, look. 692 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,400 He gave me his keys. 693 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,059 See, Keith is the only one who knows where the barley field is. So if we 694 00:40:58,060 --> 00:41:00,880 cars, the colonel will think he's following Keith. 695 00:41:00,881 --> 00:41:04,859 But actually, I'll be in the Jeep, and Keith will be heading off to the field. 696 00:41:04,860 --> 00:41:06,780 When do you get to take the pictures? 697 00:41:07,180 --> 00:41:08,230 I lose the guy. 698 00:41:08,420 --> 00:41:10,340 And that's easy on these country roads. 699 00:41:10,420 --> 00:41:11,620 And then I'll meet Keith. 700 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,380 It's got to be this way. 701 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,460 These moths are only flying a few more days. 702 00:41:17,630 --> 00:41:20,530 I don't care how baroque you get, just get the pictures. 703 00:41:21,330 --> 00:41:22,380 No excuses. 704 00:41:24,510 --> 00:41:28,370 Problem? I respect the right of any moth to be happy to multiply. 705 00:41:28,610 --> 00:41:30,660 Does not when it gets in the way of a story. 706 00:41:30,890 --> 00:41:34,260 You know that this planet is losing species at the rate of one a day? 707 00:41:34,430 --> 00:41:37,020 Yeah, we lost a lot of species before man came along. 708 00:41:37,021 --> 00:41:39,949 Still, I'd blow that assignment rather than lead that guy to the moth. 709 00:41:39,950 --> 00:41:41,000 You're not serious. 710 00:41:41,330 --> 00:41:43,730 Sure I am. Of course, I got more guts than animal. 711 00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:45,440 And a lot more tenure. 712 00:42:04,650 --> 00:42:05,970 Is this O 'Brien's system? 713 00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:08,000 Oh, yes, ma 'am. 714 00:42:09,730 --> 00:42:11,910 Oh, but it wasn't there last time. 715 00:42:12,710 --> 00:42:14,970 It looks like the outline for a new book. 716 00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:17,760 Yeah. 717 00:42:17,990 --> 00:42:20,400 Sometimes he leaves tapes for me to transcribe. 718 00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:23,390 It happened on Tuesday morning. 719 00:42:23,970 --> 00:42:27,390 In other news, let's see. Woke up today feeling clear. 720 00:42:27,610 --> 00:42:28,660 Worked three hours. 721 00:42:28,661 --> 00:42:31,129 Got almost through the first draft of chapter one. 722 00:42:31,130 --> 00:42:33,470 This is his journal. He kept it on tape. 723 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,659 downstairs. She said she knew she could visit because all I was doing was 724 00:42:37,660 --> 00:42:40,660 typing. I told her never to visit when she heard typing. 725 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,440 I hope I wasn't too stern with her. 726 00:42:44,020 --> 00:42:45,220 I hope I was stern enough. 727 00:42:46,380 --> 00:42:48,200 She lived in this house since 1918. 728 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,600 Told me again about the days when Orange Grove stretched from here to the hills. 729 00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:56,860 I've got to call Lionel. 730 00:42:57,660 --> 00:42:58,760 Find out how he's done. 731 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,190 If he's good enough, maybe I can use his piece in the book. 732 00:43:04,620 --> 00:43:11,039 And the old lady reminds me, our need to remember the past is narcotic, a 733 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,570 defense against the terror of the present moment. 734 00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:26,220 I think you're really captured, Paula. 735 00:43:26,580 --> 00:43:28,140 You don't think I was too rough? 736 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,300 You described the guy the way he was. 737 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,300 Some people liked him, some didn't. 738 00:43:32,810 --> 00:43:33,860 I did. 739 00:43:33,870 --> 00:43:34,920 Nice job. 740 00:43:34,970 --> 00:43:36,020 Thanks. 741 00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:38,520 Of course, you edited the heart out of my part. 742 00:43:41,490 --> 00:43:42,540 Billy Newman. 743 00:43:43,390 --> 00:43:45,530 Oh, hi, Ted. How was your flight? 744 00:43:46,490 --> 00:43:48,720 You find any great short stops in Sarasota? 745 00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:51,990 No, I'm fine. 746 00:43:52,490 --> 00:43:54,070 I'm just finishing this piece. 747 00:43:55,430 --> 00:43:56,630 You really want to hear? 748 00:43:58,250 --> 00:43:59,300 Okay. 749 00:44:01,130 --> 00:44:02,690 I'm skipping down near the end. 750 00:44:05,170 --> 00:44:09,189 Yet there was something important and basic to journalism to the lives of the 751 00:44:09,190 --> 00:44:10,240 three who died. 752 00:44:10,910 --> 00:44:13,730 There was the courage and patience of being a pro. 753 00:44:14,750 --> 00:44:17,450 Fierce competition and self -doubt, too. 754 00:44:18,250 --> 00:44:22,670 In the end, they chose to take a risk because that was part of their job. 755 00:44:24,290 --> 00:44:28,030 Ben Pomeroy, Helen Patterson, and Bob O 'Brien all made a choice. 756 00:44:28,590 --> 00:44:30,270 The same choice over and over. 757 00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:32,340 no matter how stormy their lives. 758 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:38,359 Like a needle returning steadily to a true direction, they held a commitment 759 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,410 do a job well. 760 00:44:40,180 --> 00:44:42,360 There's a dignity and quiet grace in that. 761 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,490 Is it comfort enough for those who knew them? 762 00:44:45,860 --> 00:44:47,160 It will have to be. 763 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:49,730 Okay. 764 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,620 Well, Julian Sphinx Moth is alive and well in Kern County. 765 00:44:59,621 --> 00:45:01,239 Glad to hear it. 766 00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:05,660 16 adults were sighted as well as 72 pupae. They counted? 767 00:45:05,860 --> 00:45:06,910 Very carefully. 768 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,759 And I hear when they hatched or emerged or whatever it is they do, it was real 769 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,660 spectacular. You hear? 770 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,600 No, I didn't get the pictures. 771 00:45:16,511 --> 00:45:18,439 Why not? 772 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,199 It was a choice between leading this maniac collector to the site and having 773 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:27,119 eventually destroy an entire species by killing specimens and selling them or 774 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,200 not getting the shots. 775 00:45:28,650 --> 00:45:30,090 I decided not to get the shots. 776 00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:31,750 That's the third time, animal. 777 00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:35,280 I could have you suspended for a week without paying. 778 00:45:35,810 --> 00:45:37,870 But I won't. 779 00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:42,510 Long live the Sphinx mob. 780 00:45:47,350 --> 00:45:51,909 What does sex and gender mean to people of other cultures? Look around the world 781 00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:56,390 to find out in the A &E special presentation, The Opposite Sex, 782 00:45:56,670 --> 00:46:00,280 Now. A young recruit undergoes the rigors of the police academy course. 783 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,920 Kurt Russell stars in Police Story, next on AMA. 784 00:46:03,970 --> 00:46:08,520 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 62994

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