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Previously on The Real Housewives of
Orange Town.
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Did you take Luke this morning? Where?
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He had his... Stop it. He's possibly
autistic and I feel like you simplify
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have this son that's in crisis and I
feel alone in that.
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Some of it is an act for attention.
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Katie had a meeting with a woman, Kiki
Monique. Katie said that you told her
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that I roofied you.
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No, I didn't say that. I'm not going to
just lie.
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I didn't do it. Are you saying I just
pulled this out of my ass?
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You told me this and she said that. My
God.
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Gretchen believes Katie.
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I'm out.
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You told us the whole story. She said
she was really sick. And was that
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to be something more than that?
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What the f*** is going on? I will be
devastated if I find out that she's
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up stories like this. Did you hear Slade
talking about any of this naked wasted
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stuff? Yeah. Right. So Gretchen, speak
up. I am exhausted mentally with trying
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to cover up for Gretchen and Slade. And
quite frankly, Jen.
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Say to them, shut the f*** up. You're
the liar.
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At what point will we not need humans
anymore? We just have Chet GPC.
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Are you going to have sex with a robot?
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Cheers. Oh, you're such a douchebag.
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How's dating life?
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Me and Dawson are the exact opposite.
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Do you have advice that you would give
your brother?
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I mean... First kiss yet?
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You'll be the next 40 -year -old virgin.
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That's not even nice.
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Yeah, Dawson, not nice. That's not even
nice.
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Skye Gray, do you want to come help us
take the chandelier down?
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Can you turn the power off?
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You don't want to get electrocuted?
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You just unscrew it?
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You have to disconnect.
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Stop it! It's not funny!
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Hi there. Welcome, Javier.
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Thank you.
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For two?
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Yes. I didn't realize you could see the
ocean.
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This is nice.
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Yeah. Are you going to have a margarita?
I might have one. Welcome in. My name
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is Eric. I'll be helping you out today.
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Do you like guacamole, Dad?
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Yeah, that'd be good. Can I have a
skinny margarita?
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Absolutely. That sounds good.
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Okay. It's his 96th birthday today.
Happy birthday, sir. And I'm not driving
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today. Yeah, you are not.
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I'll get that going for you. Thank you.
Thank you.
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So, Dad, I have to tell you, this young,
very attractive girl came up to me and
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said, this man came up to me and he
said, please don't go. I'll take care of
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you. And his name was Gene the Machine.
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That was you.
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When he goes out, he'll still walk up to
the young ladies.
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And it's like, he's a lot.
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Oh, it was probably just a joke. You
know that.
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I don't know, Dad.
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And what keeps him young? He's always
laughing and all the power to him.
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Cheers to another year, Dad. Always good
to see you. Cheers to 97.
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When's the last time you've been on a
date?
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Oh, it's been a while. For me, Dad, I
don't want to date anyone right now. But
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see you with gentlemen. They're not
dates or what?
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No. No?
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I have a lot of friends that are men,
and we do things as friends.
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I'm happy by myself.
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Well, do you think you'd change?
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I mean, maybe if I met the right person,
but...
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Run into people all the time.
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I was going to find you somebody.
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I wish I could approach dating the way
that my father does.
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How are you? Oh, I love your dress. Oh,
I like your outfit. What are you doing
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tonight?
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I'm old fashioned.
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I don't want to be the pursuer. And I'm
afraid of having my heart hurt. So I'm
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like proceeding with caution.
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Slowly. We decided on something.
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I think a couple of tacos would be good.
Thank you very much. So I don't know if
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I told you this, but when I was in New
Orleans, Tamara, who was not kind to me
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last year, she apologized to me, which I
appreciate. But I said I can't jump
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back into the friendship like that. I
mean, she kicked me when I was down. So
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it's hard. It's hard to do. I don't
know. Yeah.
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Yeah. I am more protective of my heart.
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Today, based on past relationships.
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I'm done wasting my life. I want to be
happy.
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Shannon has an interesting relationship
with the truth.
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I've been working so hard in therapy to
recognize unhealthy relationships in my
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life. And Tamara was one of them. And if
I throw myself back to the wolves, I
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only have myself to blame if I get hurt
again.
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Ooh, hello.
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I heard that there's a birthday.
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Mr. Gene the Machine. Oh, my God.
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Happy birthday to you.
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I mean, yeah, keep staring, Dad. Can you
stare for another hour?
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Happy birthday.
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I don't know where she came from, but I
like her.
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Hi, welcome to Mindy. Thank you. I'm
here to meet some friends.
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All right, why don't you get your seat
up in your chair. We'll be right with
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you. Hi.
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Hi, how are you? Good. How are you? You
look beautiful.
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I'm good. I just sit on your thigh like
lovers.
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Ladies, would you like something to
start off with? I would just love a Diet
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Coke. Do you have a spicy margarita but
not too spicy?
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Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
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I'm happy that you reached out because I
am happy to be here for you because I
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know this is kind of a lot. Yeah. And I
want to get to the bottom of it. Yeah.
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Where I'm actually the most upset is why
you're taking any conversation and
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talking to a reporter.
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I'm just feeling beyond betrayed.
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I thought that I was in a safe space
with people that I trusted and loved,
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sharing something very personal and
private with a journalist is not okay in
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way, shape, or form.
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My hope is that Katie will be exonerated
in this. Yeah.
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Hi. How are you?
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Hi, Kiki. I'm Gretchen.
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I'm Yana. We've met, sort of. Nice to
meet you. Well, when did we meet? I
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just on the phone on Shenanigans. Oh,
that's right. I didn't know that was
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Isn't that crazy? Hi. Thank you for
doing this. Of course. Really.
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We appreciate you being here.
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I decided to call Kiki because it's the
best way for me to move forward with
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Katie. And with the group and to figure
everything out is to know the truth.
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Do you have like a fence there or any
dry white? Yes, I do. Okay. Awesome.
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Thank you. And I wanted a witness there
because I didn't want it to be another
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he said, she said situation.
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I'm sorry that your name is even getting
tossed around in all of this.
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I would have never done this otherwise
if it wasn't for that. You know, like, I
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spent years kind of building up my
reputation.
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Yeah. Well, unfortunately, what happened
for me is I was sideswiped with all of
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this information when I was out in
Louisiana.
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And then I sat down with Katie, and I'm
like, you would never say something like
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that. And then she even said, as a
matter of fact, I've never even spoke to
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about you.
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I had lunch with Kiki in October. I
looked it up.
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And she never brought up any of this at
that lunch, Katie? Nope.
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No.
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I don't remember exactly how you came
up, but she said that you guys had gone
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dinner. And at the dinner, she was like,
did you know at that naked wasted night
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that Gretchen had to go to the hospital
after and she was drugged?
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And I was like, I mean, my jaw dropped.
I was like, what? She said I said that.
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She said that you told her that.
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That is just literally insane to me. I
don't even understand why she would say
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that. I was trying to get more like her
and Tamara haven't had a good
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relationship. Why has this not come out?
Exactly. Don't you think if I knew
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something like that, I would have said
that 17 years ago? I went out of my way
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to stick up for her with all these
women. And I'm feeling extremely
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the person that I thought was my friend.
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I don't even know what to say.
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Gina was a topic too.
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But, you know, it was. What do you mean?
I mean, she said that she was trying to
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wear Asian designer to showcase them.
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And she said you came in and you saw her
outfit and you looked at her and you
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said, is that an Asian designer?
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Implying, I guess it was meant to be
sounding racist. I don't know.
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She told me that she wanted to feature
Asian designers, and I thought that was
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cool. And then the next thing you know,
she gets these shoes.
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And every time she shows up, she's like,
oh, my God, look at what I'm wearing.
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All these fancy designers that are not
Asian.
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The Balmain.
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I'm really thinking I'm wearing this
Bottega dress.
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You're trying to dress to impress, I
think, the Bottega dress. At least I'm
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excited about what I'm going to wear.
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And I did say, oh, is that an Asian
designer?
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pissed at this girl by that point.
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I realized I was like is she trying to
feed me this so I sat on it but it felt
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like she was telling me this because I
think she thought I was going to do
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something. I wanted to celebrate the
fact that Katie wanted to come into this
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group and celebrate culture and then she
just didn't do any of it. This is just
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another perfect example of all of her
inconsistencies in all of her stories
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it feels performative.
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Thank you for being a reputable
journalist and not running these
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Yeah, I try to salvage my reputation.
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No, of course.
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All right. Thank you, friend. Thank you
for driving down. Bye. Thank you.
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Do you feel better at least you heard it
directly from her? I mean, better?
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I don't know if that's the right word,
but, I mean, I guess I had to.
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People can't do this to people.
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I brought this girl here. You understand
how I feel? This is like really messed
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up on every level.
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Like this is like now I'm starting to be
scared about whatever everybody's been
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trying to tell me forever.
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And I wasn't listening and I'm mad at
myself. I didn't listen.
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But like how would I know?
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No. I'll tell you what, Gretchen, I have
your back and everybody else will have
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your back.
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I can promise you that. We all know the
truth.
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Hello. Hi.
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By the way, this one crushed the
volleyball game.
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He's a killer. Dives into the floor.
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Boom. Gather, gather on the table.
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Can I sit here because I like the light?
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So this is Texas Hold 'em, right? Dad
and I are really good. We are super good
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at this. I don't know how to play poker.
This is my cheat sheet.
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Do you want to look at this? Yeah.
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When I have everyone home, it is so
good. We have another apartment
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in our building, so it's where everyone
has dinner together. It's where we watch
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television together.
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It's like our family house. The
penthouse is more for, quite frankly,
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All right, so I'm dealer, so you put
five.
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Okay.
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Look at me, I got a pair of seven. I'm
already kicking your guy's butt.
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Okay, Kat, so your first act, you can
either bet or you can check and do
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nothing. So, like, why?
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Put your cards back. She's worse than
us. Ace taught me how to play poker. I'm
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terrible, but I love playing games with
him, so I'll play whatever he wants.
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Two pair, aces and seven.
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He's a sore loser and a sore loser.
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You can clearly tell poker is not a big
game night event in our family since our
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table is completely reflective and you
can see everyone's cards.
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Oh, so I was up at the house.
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Yeah, I saw that post on Instagram. Does
that mean we sold it? No, they thought
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it would take 90 days to sell. 90 days?
And the over -under is 19 to 21.
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The Joshes have had a couple of
showings, but no real bites yet.
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Every real estate purchase is a gamble.
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And this is what life's about, taking
risks.
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We just want to break even. If I had had
a crystal ball and I could have seen
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what was going to happen, would we have
bought that property?
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No. If we were going to get a family
house somewhere, like a place where we
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could have...
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holidays, and where you could leave your
stuff, where would that house be? In L
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.A. For me, it's Palm Springs.
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No. For me, it's Palm Springs. I don't
want to come home from college and go to
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Palm Springs.
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For the time being, what we're doing is
a Band -Aid. We will always need a place
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to gather. I don't want them to just
come for dinner. I want them to have to
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stay. Guys, I have really good cars.
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I fold.
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I have no idea where the kids are going
to end up, so I'm just going to wait
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until they land somewhere, and then
we'll worry about a family home.
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Okay, so you have nothing. You have
nothing? One pair.
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She's got a pair of three.
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A pair of kings.
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A pair of kings.
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You went all in on nothing?
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Two pair.
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Thank you. That is so not how to play
this game.
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You ever heard the expression poker
face?
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No. I know the Lady Gaga song.
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When you get a little older, you get a
little bolder.
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I know Nauru is all about new beginning,
spring. That's why it's spring and new
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life and everything. But each one of
these represents something.
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Yes. What do the goldfish represent?
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Water. Water. Okay. Like life. Yeah.
Okay. A couple of the goldfish are dead,
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but it's fine. They can just float
around.
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They die so high. I know.
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Persian New Year is celebrating the
spring equinox. It's the first day of
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on the Iranian calendar. And Shane's
mother is Persian. And she holds these
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Persian New Year parties every year.
They're beautiful and elaborate.
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But because my father -in -law is in the
hospital, that has been canceled.
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So I felt like it was important that I
continued on with the tradition.
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Was this the same spread that you were
going to do for Perry's?
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No. No.
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I love Persian culture, but my husband,
who is actually half Persian, couldn't
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name one thing on a half scene.
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Can you name anything on a half scene?
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Yeah, the goldfish.
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Yeah, but what does the goldfish stand
for? I don't know. I gave Shane some
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kebab, and I said, see you later.
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What else do you do on Persian New
Year's? Don't you jump over fire?
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We do. They say, take my weakness and
give me your strength.
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Well, I should jump over some fire. I
need some strength.
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How
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are
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you feeling today?
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No, guys, I haven't seen anybody since
we left New Orleans. So that's always
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concerning. New beginnings.
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Persian New Year, right? Yeah.
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We left New Orleans and it was super
tumultuous.
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We feel scared because the concern is
what happens next.
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Persian New Year is all about new
beginnings. So I'm hoping we could all
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forward and start from zero.
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I really just don't want to be there
with Katie, but I also feel like I don't
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want to not go to Emily's party.
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Sorry, you have to go and deal with
this.
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I'm ready
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for Persian New Year. Where are all my
party people
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at? Thank you.
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Come on in. I mean, I was, so.
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He only goes that far.
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Togo, this is so beautiful.
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You really put so much thought into it.
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How do you think today is going to go?
Here's the thing. I have two lie
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people here.
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Oh, okay, so you're doing this.
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I just want to ask so many people so
many things and just get it all out and
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done with it.
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Have her take a lie detector test.
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I'm not talking about story with
bloggers. Okay, listen, I believe you.
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take a lie detector test. Lie detector
test. Lie detector test.
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We could invite everyone over to, like,
my house, and then we'd just have
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someone there to give everybody a lie
detector test.
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One's upstairs, and one's over in this
office. There's two.
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Okay. I'm not going to tell the women
that they're here.
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Okay. I think it's a good idea. Like,
there are so many versions and so many
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stories and so many he said, she said.
Honestly, especially with the stuff
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between Gretchen and obviously all the
Katie stuff. Yeah.
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It's so hard not to tell Emily about
what happened with Kiki Monique because
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want to tell her everything.
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I made this packet. Please take a few
minutes to anonymously ask two to three
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burning questions.
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But honestly, that's really for Gretchen
to tell people.
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So I'm just keeping my mouth shut.
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How do you spell roofie?
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I just put drug.
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There you go.
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Did their house get egged? What should I
ask Jennifer?
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How involved are you with the FBI?
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Togo, take a seat, buddy.
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Happy New Year!
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You look so pretty!
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Oh, thank you. That is for you.
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Beautiful.
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Wait, did someone egg your house, or is
that part of the New Year? No, I did
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that.
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We want to, like, create a barrier so
that the evil spirit can't get in.
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Your itch -a -way is going to get
pissed.
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Hi! Hi!
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How are you?
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Oh my gosh, everything looks so pretty!
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What happened to your... your nose.
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Oh, I had a biopsy. Oh, okay.
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It's a new accessory.
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Oh, you love it. Yeah. I thought it was
a B or A strip.
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You're just getting rid of your
blackheads. So we have homework ready.
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We have homework.
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Would you like me to share this with
Heather? Would you like to share this
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Heather? Wait, I need to talk to you for
a second before the other girls come.
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Um, did you invite Tamara? I texted her
the same text that I sent to you guys.
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Remember I texted her after she left and
like, where are you? Are you okay? And
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five days later she texted me. She was.
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Pissed. Why not you understand where my
head was? I do. And how I was feeling.
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No, you're not. You're sitting here
making me sound like I'm the bad person.
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At you?
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Oh, yeah. Pissed at me, pissed at all of
us. Why is she mad at everyone?
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Because she believes that everyone
should have reached out to her to see if
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was okay. She threw a fit. She told
everybody to f*** off and she ran home.
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What am I checking up on?
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I think it's ridiculous.
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You can't play victim in a situation
that you don't even remember.
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No. It's time to lay down, girl.
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Should I have invited her? Because now
I'm afraid she's going to come through
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the door. And is she going to just come
in hot?
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Should I have invited her? Because now
I'm afraid she's going to come through
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the door. And is she going to just come
in hot?
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Did you get egged?
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I egged myself.
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I said the same thing.
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What happened with the egg?
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Hi.
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You got egged. Gina and I did it. We
were getting rid of evil spirits.
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Hi.
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What I need everyone to do is ask a
question that you want to know about
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woman in this group, and then we're
going to do an activity later.
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And it's anonymous.
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It is anonymous?
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Yeah. Oh, I just put my name on it.
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Shannon. Hi.
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Come on in. Happy Persian New Year.
Hello.
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Hi. I had a biopsy. It's fine. Good.
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How are you?
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Good. Thank you.
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Perfect. How are you? Good. Thank you.
You look beautiful.
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Want some food? Well, let's get some
food.
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Do you want to look at my Persian
spread?
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Yes. Because you appreciate good party
planning.
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I'm confused.
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I'm literally on the outs with everyone
because I was covering her lie.
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Shouldn't you be like, yeah, that's
amazing you did that instead of treating
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like a piece of shit? I just want to
say, why?
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Like, why would you lie straight to my
face that you didn't tell Kiki? I just
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feel like it is not the right place or
time to have that argument with her. And
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so I just have to keep my cool at this
moment.
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I have a little fun activity that we're
going to do later.
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You just have to ask a couple questions
that you have for each lady, and it's
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anonymous. How do we know they're going
to tell the truth? Maybe I have truth
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serum. Ooh.
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That's called vodka.
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Actually, the alcohol isn't here yet.
I'm sorry.
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It's a religious thing?
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Is there a cash bar?
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I mean, she's a party planner. She would
never do that.
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Like, can I really ask anything I want
to ask in the nature of being very kind?
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Jen! Give us some examples.
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Well, I already wrote one for you, and
then I crossed it out because I was
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it's just not worth pissing you off.
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It's okay.
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I mean, I'm just going to do the obvious
one.
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I don't know what to do.
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Gretchen? Are you going to be honest?
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It's a new beginning.
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New beginning.
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The truth will set us free. Is your hair
real, bitch? That's what I want to
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know. Is your hair real? I don't know
what's happening there, but I'm going to
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get to the bottom of it.
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Are they nice?
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What are they supposed to mean? Thank
you for asking that, Shannon. Shannon,
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you new?
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So this is going to make us all be truth
tellers?
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You're right. I called the paparazzi.
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Yeah. You can ask that.
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Are you? I know you're not.
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I'm not. I can't. Well, there is a plan.
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We will get through this day.
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Okay. I promise you.
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I appreciate you.
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Is everybody getting food?
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Is that a date?
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Ooh, yum.
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Question of the hour.
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Is somebody named Tamara Judge coming?
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Oh, I think so. She thinks so, but she's
mad at me. She's mad at everybody.
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That's ridiculous.
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Tamara's mad?
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She can storm off, she can publicly
quit, and then expect everyone to
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her or forget what's happened. But she
doesn't give other people that grace.
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I had a conversation with Shane. I said,
I think maybe I should reach out. Life
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happened, and I got overwhelmed by what
was going on with my son, and I just...
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It's not a priority at the moment. She
can't always be the priority. No.
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What am I going into?
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I'll end up being the dick for not being
like, oh, Lewis, I'm happy you're back.
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No, you won't.
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Do you think you can get rid of me that
easy?
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Look who it is.
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You're mad at me?
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It's Todd, you didn't call me.
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No, I get it. I have a lot of stuff
going on with Luke, which I haven't
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with you.
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Are you okay?
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You know, he has an eating disorder.
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And when we came back from New Orleans,
he had regrets.
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So it was very hard for me to focus on
anything else. I'm sorry. I should have
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reached out to you. No, no, it's okay.
No, I mean, I should have. No, it's
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It's okay. I'm just going to go say
hello to Tamara and get a little rest.
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I want to nip it now.
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I want to nip it now.
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I'm sorry.
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Thank you.
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Sorry. Oh, because everything's just
peachy keen and fine.
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You can tell people off. You can go on
social media. You can take a vacation.
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And you'll be welcomed with open arms.
Open arms. But do you understand that I
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do genuinely love you? That's why I'm
like, just go to bed and let's talk
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it tomorrow. I know. I know. Part of my
problem is when I'm finding out in
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therapy is I don't know how to process
emotion.
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No, but don't push it away.
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When you're upset, can you share?
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I feel like, oh, you got Katie in this
group that's going in. This is normal.
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Don't worry about Katie.
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Because we've got her.
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Today. will be a pivotal day in this
group.
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I feel kind of sick. You feel sick?
Yeah.
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What?
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Really?
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Where's the bathroom?
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Hi!
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There's homework.
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Did anyone else finish their homework
that I can take from them? Burning
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questions that you want to know about.
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It's like a yes or no question like, did
you?
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Don't really forget to call me on my
birthday.
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What are you going to try? I'm going to
pretty much try everything.
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Is it 2026 or 2025?
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Five. Just wondering.
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Persian New Year.
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Oh.
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Emily, for Persian New Year. Yeah. Do
you have a good question? Like, what's
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00:25:16,620 --> 00:25:19,040
year? Like, in the Jewish calendar? Oh,
my gosh. You know what? I was Googling
464
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,820
it this morning. It's 14 -something.
465
00:25:21,180 --> 00:25:23,600
Happy 14 -something. 14 -something.
466
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,400
You feel very heavy. Trying to just
navigate some things right now.
467
00:25:28,260 --> 00:25:29,340
Anything you want to talk about?
468
00:25:30,519 --> 00:25:32,520
Yeah, definitely need to talk to you
about it.
469
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,100
Okay, I understand.
470
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,860
Everyone come over here. I just want to
give a little person New Year's speech.
471
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,860
I gave you all a packet of questions
because I thought in order to move
472
00:25:42,020 --> 00:25:46,040
maybe we need to ask each other some
deeper questions and really get the
473
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,520
because I feel like there's a lot of
things going on that are splintering us
474
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,520
a group.
475
00:25:51,380 --> 00:25:57,000
So today, what we are going to do is we
are all going to take a lie detector
476
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,000
test.
477
00:25:58,949 --> 00:26:03,150
Ooh. All right. I don't want to. I don't
like it. Nobody has to do this if you
478
00:26:03,150 --> 00:26:03,929
don't want to.
479
00:26:03,930 --> 00:26:06,630
Oh, this is going to get interesting
real quick.
480
00:26:07,290 --> 00:26:10,990
Okay. Can we change our question? I
know, right? That's why there's no
481
00:26:11,670 --> 00:26:12,670
Oh.
482
00:26:19,410 --> 00:26:20,410
Today,
483
00:26:20,610 --> 00:26:24,830
what we are going to do is take a lie
detector test.
484
00:26:26,129 --> 00:26:29,370
Ooh. Nobody has to do this if you don't
want to.
485
00:26:30,670 --> 00:26:32,690
It's you and me. I'm going with you.
486
00:26:33,370 --> 00:26:36,750
I'm a truth teller, so this does not
bother me whatsoever.
487
00:26:37,310 --> 00:26:39,590
This is not what I signed up for today.
488
00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:41,770
Yeah, let's go.
489
00:26:42,110 --> 00:26:43,230
I'm full of nerve.
490
00:26:43,490 --> 00:26:45,850
I'm so nauseous. It's that bad right
now?
491
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:47,470
Polygraphs, they're not fun.
492
00:26:47,730 --> 00:26:49,790
This is all anxiety for me.
493
00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:53,710
You'll know that you people are about to
be exposed.
494
00:26:54,540 --> 00:26:55,540
But you lied.
495
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,520
Okay, go ahead and just have a seat
there.
496
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,960
This is, like, so legit.
497
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,680
This feels very Sharon Stone moment to
me.
498
00:27:01,940 --> 00:27:03,220
All right, I'm going to hook you up.
499
00:27:03,420 --> 00:27:04,700
How accurate is this?
500
00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:08,660
It's medical equipment, so it's 100 %
reading what your blood, sweat, and
501
00:27:08,660 --> 00:27:10,700
breathing are doing. Only answer yes or
no.
502
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,780
Don't talk in between the questions.
503
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,640
What is the body response?
504
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:17,120
Upper breathing, lower breathing.
505
00:27:17,380 --> 00:27:20,040
Some questions on this test, they're
going to sound odd to you.
506
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,380
And let me see how you respond.
507
00:27:23,340 --> 00:27:26,840
Most important thing is that you don't
move. When you move, it looks like a
508
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,720
reaction and a reaction looks like a
lie. Blood pressure, finger moisture.
509
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,140
Finger moisture.
510
00:27:33,500 --> 00:27:36,820
Okay. This guy does not make you feel
comfortable.
511
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:42,880
I'll pay that much. He makes you feel
like you are about to fail this lie
512
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:43,880
detector test.
513
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:46,180
Here we go. Yes or no answers.
514
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,440
Is your first name Emily?
515
00:27:47,950 --> 00:27:49,130
Yes. Is your name Jennifer?
516
00:27:49,390 --> 00:27:53,370
Yes. Do you know how to ride a bicycle?
Yeah. Do you intend to lie to me today?
517
00:27:53,530 --> 00:27:56,130
No. Would you rather be a housewife of
Beverly Hills?
518
00:27:57,490 --> 00:27:59,170
Are you currently keeping any secrets?
519
00:27:59,510 --> 00:28:02,110
No. What is half of ten times five?
520
00:28:02,790 --> 00:28:03,790
Five.
521
00:28:04,490 --> 00:28:05,830
Oh, half of ten times five.
522
00:28:06,730 --> 00:28:08,170
Can you speak any Russian?
523
00:28:08,490 --> 00:28:12,670
Нет. Do you intend to answer truthfully?
Yes. Does Travis have big balls?
524
00:28:13,230 --> 00:28:14,350
I mean, I'm sorry.
525
00:28:15,230 --> 00:28:17,290
Wait, I'm sorry. I'll recompose myself.
526
00:28:17,550 --> 00:28:18,550
I mean.
527
00:28:20,670 --> 00:28:25,270
All right. I'm panicking because I'm
like, I think they're big, but like I
528
00:28:25,270 --> 00:28:27,550
haven't seen like that many balls.
529
00:28:28,460 --> 00:28:31,100
Do you talk badly about Heather Dubrow
in front of your children?
530
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,960
I went over and I babysat, and I'm like,
we don't really like Heather.
531
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,420
She's mean to our mom.
532
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,700
Were you really told you were on the
spectrum of autism?
533
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,260
I am on the spectrum.
534
00:28:40,580 --> 00:28:44,800
Did you say you keep Heather around for
her real estate contacts? You told Katie
535
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:50,260
that the only reason you keep me close
is because of my real estate
536
00:28:50,740 --> 00:28:55,440
Did you call the paparazzi to meet you
at Disneyland? Katie says that you call
537
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,520
the paparazzi and you tell them where
you're at all the time. Did you make
538
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,520
contact with Slade's ex to dig up
information? Michelle called me
539
00:29:02,780 --> 00:29:04,860
She says you called her fishing for
information.
540
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:06,099
That's a lie.
541
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:07,640
Good job. I will unhook you.
542
00:29:07,860 --> 00:29:12,720
Such a crazy thing. Even when you know
you're telling the truth, you go, am I?
543
00:29:12,900 --> 00:29:13,900
Is that right?
544
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,160
I hope I've had.
545
00:29:15,580 --> 00:29:17,360
I'm really not looking forward to it.
546
00:29:17,580 --> 00:29:22,000
I have weird nightmares like all the
time. One is that I'm taking a lie
547
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,980
and I'm telling the truth and they go,
you're a liar. And then I'm like, what?
548
00:29:27,850 --> 00:29:30,830
This is one of my wacky Shannon
nightmares.
549
00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:35,770
Where do I go? To the right, and then
you have to go and sit in a dark room.
550
00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:39,870
Oh, come on, come on. Literally, I have
anxiety about that.
551
00:29:40,110 --> 00:29:41,110
It's scary.
552
00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:45,670
And I did not expect to be wired up to a
machine.
553
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,460
Did you make out with multiple men in
Newport?
554
00:29:48,820 --> 00:29:51,240
Do you think you're better looking than
some of your castmates? Do you want a
555
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:56,960
friendship with Tamara? I think I could
possibly make myself so nervous that I'm
556
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,280
going to screw it up. No, I'm telling
the truth.
557
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:01,100
I will unhook you.
558
00:30:01,460 --> 00:30:02,460
You're very serious.
559
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,360
Thank you.
560
00:30:05,460 --> 00:30:06,860
Well, that wasn't fun.
561
00:30:08,300 --> 00:30:09,680
Okay, Katie, you're next.
562
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:10,920
Okay.
563
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,500
Hi, how are you doing?
564
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:14,880
I'm not sure yet.
565
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:15,920
You'll be okay.
566
00:30:15,940 --> 00:30:17,600
Gretchers! Gretchers, your turn.
567
00:30:17,900 --> 00:30:18,900
Hi there. Hello.
568
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,300
Have you ever taken a lie detector test
before?
569
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,160
No. Do I get the champagne?
570
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,900
Oh, you get the champagne now.
571
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,459
You want champagne?
572
00:30:26,460 --> 00:30:27,459
You can have it now.
573
00:30:27,460 --> 00:30:29,180
I was hiding the alcohol from everyone.
574
00:30:29,380 --> 00:30:32,680
Oh, thank you. Yes, I was gatekeeping.
Please do not lie to me today.
575
00:30:33,580 --> 00:30:35,200
So... I feel so anxious. I don't...
576
00:30:36,530 --> 00:30:37,790
Polygraphs don't work off of anxiety.
577
00:30:38,030 --> 00:30:42,210
I know, but I'm anxious of this. Are you
normally an anxious person?
578
00:30:42,510 --> 00:30:43,790
While with this group, yes.
579
00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:48,270
Gretchen, have you spoken to Hurdle? No,
but she's very upset or something. I
580
00:30:48,270 --> 00:30:49,410
don't know what's going on. Is she up
there now?
581
00:30:49,630 --> 00:30:51,790
They're both in there. I bet Gretchen's
met with Kiki.
582
00:30:53,250 --> 00:30:57,410
I'm going to have to call Kiki because I
do feel like there's something weird
583
00:30:57,410 --> 00:31:00,670
there. Gina knows. What do you know? Did
you talk to Gretchen about it? Did you
584
00:31:00,670 --> 00:31:02,930
see Kiki yesterday?
585
00:31:03,290 --> 00:31:05,710
Feel her temperature.
586
00:31:06,090 --> 00:31:09,050
But Gretchen confided in you so you kind
of have an idea of what's going on.
587
00:31:09,530 --> 00:31:12,330
I know and I understand why she's upset.
588
00:31:12,930 --> 00:31:16,990
Okay, let's do it. Can I keep my eyes
closed? You can totally do that. Okay.
589
00:31:17,390 --> 00:31:19,630
Did you play the recording of Shannon
for Alexis?
590
00:31:19,910 --> 00:31:22,970
No. Have you planted stories about
Tamara in the media?
591
00:31:23,230 --> 00:31:24,230
Oh my God, my heart is pumping.
592
00:31:24,370 --> 00:31:25,830
Have you leaked any stories to the
press?
593
00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:27,670
No. Oh, I feel sick.
594
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,160
Who wrote that question?
595
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,400
Did you go to the hospital after Naked
Wasted? No. Did Gretchen tell you that
596
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,300
she was drugged and went to the
hospital? Yes. Did you tell Katie and
597
00:31:37,300 --> 00:31:40,180
you were drugged? Did you tell Kiki that
Gretchen said she was drugged and
598
00:31:40,180 --> 00:31:41,180
hospitalized? No.
599
00:31:41,420 --> 00:31:45,700
All I want to do is scream from the
mountaintop that Katie lied.
600
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,200
I told the truth, and that's all I can
do. Okay, I can unhook you. How do you
601
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,860
feel? Horrible. I really, really hope
that all this mess about Naked Wasted
602
00:31:54,860 --> 00:31:55,860
comes to light.
603
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,420
I'm tired of being the fall person for
all of Gretchen's lies.
604
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:03,720
How'd it go, Gretchen? How'd it go? I
mean, it definitely is intense, for
605
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,680
I know I was telling the truth, so I'm
confident that it's going to prove my
606
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,920
innocence and that she's a liar. There
you go.
607
00:32:11,180 --> 00:32:14,460
Okay, thank you. Thank you so much. I'm
sure that you never want to see me
608
00:32:14,460 --> 00:32:15,460
again. Yeah.
609
00:32:15,540 --> 00:32:19,540
The truth always comes to light, and
Gretchen's going to know that I'm not
610
00:32:19,540 --> 00:32:20,540
covering for her anymore.
611
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,660
I have a feeling I know what's about to
come.
612
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,540
Ladies, I have the result.
613
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,780
You guys are ready. We're ready. We're
very ready. All right. So we're going to
614
00:32:44,780 --> 00:32:46,040
do you.
615
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,500
All right. Here we go. Do you think
you're a better lawyer than Shane?
616
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:57,680
Absolutely. You did, and that is
correct. Do you talk badly
617
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,060
about Heather in front of your children?
618
00:32:59,500 --> 00:33:00,500
No, no.
619
00:33:01,620 --> 00:33:03,240
That is true. You passed that.
620
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:05,760
What is your reaction to that?
621
00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:08,260
Bullshit. Gina, oh, God.
622
00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:11,980
Did you say you keep Heather around for
her real estate contacts?
623
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,740
No. You pass.
624
00:33:14,780 --> 00:33:16,320
Thank the literal Lord.
625
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,880
I wouldn't have believed it anyway.
626
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,720
Thank you. Was that your question?
627
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,340
Oh, was it? Oh, yeah, I asked that.
628
00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:29,140
The whole thing of Gina using me for
real estate connections is so silly to
629
00:33:29,220 --> 00:33:31,360
That is such a lie. I don't believe it.
630
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:32,880
At all.
631
00:33:33,180 --> 00:33:34,180
Okay, Tamara.
632
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:35,299
Oh, Lord.
633
00:33:35,300 --> 00:33:38,360
Did you contact Slade's ex to dig up
information?
634
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,960
I don't know if she reached out to me or
if I reached out to her. I don't
635
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,860
remember, so I just said yes, meaning
that I did talk. Okay, so either way,
636
00:33:44,860 --> 00:33:45,699
spoke with her.
637
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:47,880
I spoke with her, yes. Okay, you passed
that one.
638
00:33:48,340 --> 00:33:51,960
Tamara is protecting her ass, and it's
going to prove that she's a liar if she
639
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,820
doesn't admit to the truth. She just
wanted to hear anything to make Slade
640
00:33:55,820 --> 00:33:59,360
like he was a deadbeat. And you don't
know sh... No, you pay child support,
641
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,580
Slade. Yeah, if I didn't pay support, I
would be in jail.
642
00:34:01,780 --> 00:34:02,800
There is a...
643
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,100
manipulation, a calculation, and intent
behind every single thing that woman
644
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:09,060
does. Okay, let's keep going.
645
00:34:09,540 --> 00:34:11,440
Do you want a friendship with Shannon?
646
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:17,120
Yeah. You passed that? Were you really
told you were on the spectrum of autism?
647
00:34:17,620 --> 00:34:18,620
Yeah.
648
00:34:18,820 --> 00:34:21,000
You failed that one. How can I fail that
one?
649
00:34:21,219 --> 00:34:25,800
We talked about unprocessed trauma and
whether or not the spectrum was part of
650
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,179
this. It's hard to say until you get an
assessment.
651
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:29,480
That's bullshit.
652
00:34:30,250 --> 00:34:33,489
Jennifer, did you befriend Tamara with
ulterior motive?
653
00:34:33,770 --> 00:34:34,770
No. Pass.
654
00:34:35,469 --> 00:34:37,590
Oh, God. Give me a break.
655
00:34:37,989 --> 00:34:40,030
Do you trust Katie Janela?
656
00:34:40,290 --> 00:34:46,230
Yes. You passed that one as well. I know
that I can be very naive, and I do like
657
00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:51,330
Katie, and I do trust Katie, and I do
enjoy Katie. But am I also being lied
658
00:34:51,489 --> 00:34:53,050
or is everybody else wrong?
659
00:34:53,330 --> 00:34:57,710
It's so confusing. It feels good to have
somebody that's a true friend here with
660
00:34:57,710 --> 00:35:02,550
me. Do you have any serious reservations
about marrying Ryan? No.
661
00:35:03,710 --> 00:35:06,110
You reacted significantly to that
question.
662
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:07,550
Does that mean I failed it?
663
00:35:07,710 --> 00:35:09,990
Yeah. I failed that one. You did.
664
00:35:10,930 --> 00:35:11,930
Significantly.
665
00:35:12,430 --> 00:35:17,170
I just don't ever want to go through
what I went through in my divorce. I
666
00:35:17,170 --> 00:35:21,270
want to unwind something else for my
kids. That was a very scary time for the
667
00:35:21,270 --> 00:35:25,390
kids and I. So failing that question,
even though it bothers me, it doesn't
668
00:35:25,390 --> 00:35:26,390
surprise me.
669
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,700
Okay, Shannon, did you make out with
multiple men in Newport?
670
00:35:31,020 --> 00:35:32,020
Absolutely.
671
00:35:33,060 --> 00:35:34,200
Okay, good for you.
672
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,440
I want to know if you passed or not.
673
00:35:36,820 --> 00:35:37,698
Did I fail?
674
00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:38,698
No, you passed.
675
00:35:38,700 --> 00:35:41,520
Do you want a friendship with Tamara?
676
00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:46,600
I want to say maybe. I don't know. I'm
very confused about it, John. You
677
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:47,920
even though it seems very confusing.
678
00:35:48,650 --> 00:35:52,590
I do miss my friendship with Shannon. I
think that Shannon knows my heart, and
679
00:35:52,590 --> 00:35:54,210
she knows that I've always been good to
her.
680
00:35:54,450 --> 00:35:57,070
I'm hoping that we can just move
forward.
681
00:35:57,830 --> 00:36:01,530
Okay, Heather, would you rather be a
housewife of Beverly Hills?
682
00:36:02,210 --> 00:36:03,210
Yes.
683
00:36:03,490 --> 00:36:08,090
True. It's closer. I live in Beverly
Hills, and I told them, everyone's going
684
00:36:08,090 --> 00:36:11,670
be pissed and say, you think you're
better than us, you don't want to be
685
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:14,610
with us, and all the things that I said
was a booze.
686
00:36:15,170 --> 00:36:17,670
We don't need to keep explaining. Okay,
so good.
687
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,680
She's got her fancy pants and a twist.
688
00:36:21,020 --> 00:36:24,580
You're basically like, I prefer a better
commute.
689
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,180
That's like really tough.
690
00:36:27,620 --> 00:36:28,620
You have a driver.
691
00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:32,800
We all know Heather would rather be with
the rich girls than us.
692
00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:37,840
All right. Did you call the paparazzi to
meet you at Disneyland?
693
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:39,960
No.
694
00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:44,020
He has you as failing on that one.
695
00:36:46,209 --> 00:36:49,070
Well, I don't know what to tell you. I
didn't call the paparazzi. I've already
696
00:36:49,070 --> 00:36:50,190
sworn on my children's lives.
697
00:36:50,970 --> 00:36:53,850
This does feel good to see Heather being
called out for calling the paparazzi.
698
00:36:54,410 --> 00:36:58,990
I don't know why Heather doesn't say,
you know how amazing I am? I pick up the
699
00:36:58,990 --> 00:37:01,270
phone, and paparazzi shows up at
Disneyland.
700
00:37:02,470 --> 00:37:04,350
I would pick up the phone, and they'd be
like, who?
701
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:06,710
Ugh. All right, Gretchen.
702
00:37:07,050 --> 00:37:10,190
Did you tell Katie and Jen that you were
drugged? I said no.
703
00:37:10,510 --> 00:37:11,510
That was trickle.
704
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:15,090
Did you go to the hospital after naked
wasted?
705
00:37:15,810 --> 00:37:16,810
I said no.
706
00:37:18,370 --> 00:37:19,450
That was truthful.
707
00:37:20,450 --> 00:37:25,510
I'm really suspicious about Gretchen. I
said to her point blankly, did you go to
708
00:37:25,510 --> 00:37:30,710
the hospital? And she said, the next day
I was so sick.
709
00:37:31,170 --> 00:37:36,330
Gretchen told Tamara and I that she went
to the hospital, but she's passing that
710
00:37:36,330 --> 00:37:37,930
she didn't. It doesn't make sense.
711
00:37:38,210 --> 00:37:41,590
Some liars, especially practice, can
pass.
712
00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:43,060
Well, there you go.
713
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,780
She's a known liar.
714
00:37:45,580 --> 00:37:46,580
Liar.
715
00:37:46,940 --> 00:37:49,800
And have you planted stories about
Tamara in the media?
716
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:53,540
No. That was also truthful. You got a
whole truthful test.
717
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,000
Your entire test.
718
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,280
Are we ready for Katie?
719
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,520
Mate.
720
00:38:06,380 --> 00:38:07,860
Are we ready for Katie's?
721
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,800
Mate. All right. Okay.
722
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,980
Did you tell Kiki that Gretchen said she
was drugged and hospitalized?
723
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,740
No. You failed it.
724
00:38:17,420 --> 00:38:21,440
Did you play the recording of Shannon
for Alexis? No. No. You failed that one.
725
00:38:22,340 --> 00:38:25,200
Did Gretchen tell you that she was
drugged and went to the hospital?
726
00:38:26,980 --> 00:38:29,240
Yes. You literally said yes.
727
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,540
It's a polygraph. You really said yes to
that. Did you pass it? Wow.
728
00:38:35,020 --> 00:38:36,100
She failed that one.
729
00:38:39,250 --> 00:38:41,350
You did the worst out of everybody.
730
00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:48,450
Okay. Those questions for you about
Gretchen, you failed those very badly.
731
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:50,370
This is like the boy who cried wolf.
732
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:52,810
I mean, Katie's lips are moving. She's
lying.
733
00:38:53,410 --> 00:38:54,750
Katie, you clearly lied.
734
00:38:54,970 --> 00:38:58,690
I didn't lie. Gretchen, we sat at that
dinner and everyone heard it. I'm not
735
00:38:58,690 --> 00:38:59,690
only one telling them.
736
00:39:00,050 --> 00:39:00,868
Oh, my God.
737
00:39:00,870 --> 00:39:04,830
Jen was there. Ryan was there. Matt was
there. What dinner? What dinner?
738
00:39:05,210 --> 00:39:07,050
We were a master.
739
00:39:07,710 --> 00:39:11,550
Slade even called Matt and said, don't
share this. No, he did not. You are
740
00:39:11,550 --> 00:39:13,830
literally making this up. No, I'm not,
Jen.
741
00:39:14,070 --> 00:39:18,330
Why do you want to know? I'm not lying.
First of all, I met with Kiki yesterday.
742
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,100
And she told me that you said that to
her. You did.
743
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,820
You did. No, I didn't.
744
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,620
I swear to God. We were sitting there.
We talked about this. Yes, we have
745
00:39:31,620 --> 00:39:33,960
about this. I said she did say she was
sick.
746
00:39:34,220 --> 00:39:38,500
I said I was so sick I should have gone
to the hospital. That's what I said. How
747
00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:41,640
dare you tell this lie? Like, I feel so
dumb. I feel so duped.
748
00:39:41,940 --> 00:39:45,760
I wanted someone that I was close to in
this friend group. And Katie was that
749
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:46,339
for me.
750
00:39:46,340 --> 00:39:50,020
And in one instant of failing all those
questions.
751
00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:51,710
That was gone.
752
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:56,650
Katie, nobody believes you, not even the
lie detector test. You failed every
753
00:39:56,650 --> 00:39:57,650
question.
754
00:39:57,970 --> 00:39:59,190
I literally can't.
755
00:39:59,750 --> 00:40:04,710
This has got to be wrong. I'll take it
again because I know a thousand percent
756
00:40:04,710 --> 00:40:05,910
told the truth wholeheartedly.
757
00:40:06,130 --> 00:40:11,570
I feel like an idiot because I believed
her and I didn't believe all these other
758
00:40:11,570 --> 00:40:17,490
women. But now I know she is a liar.
Like, I want nothing to do with you. By
759
00:40:17,490 --> 00:40:19,350
way, you tried to chuck me under the
bus.
760
00:40:19,930 --> 00:40:25,130
And you tried to tell her that I said
last year, insinuating that I was
761
00:40:27,410 --> 00:40:28,710
That's what Kiki said yesterday.
762
00:40:29,030 --> 00:40:32,470
After everything I did for you and
helped you to try to be a good friend to
763
00:40:32,510 --> 00:40:36,170
you're going to sit there with Kiki
Monique and you're going to try and say
764
00:40:36,170 --> 00:40:38,470
something that really paints me in that
light?
765
00:40:38,670 --> 00:40:43,730
I grew up in a predominantly white
suburb. And sometimes people don't know
766
00:40:43,730 --> 00:40:48,230
racially charged they sound. And I don't
think Gina knows that came out that
767
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:49,310
way. But it did.
768
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,000
And it made me feel horrible.
769
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,980
You've lost your credibility with
everybody here.
770
00:40:54,380 --> 00:40:55,640
Yeah, Katie, maybe you should go.
771
00:40:56,900 --> 00:40:57,900
I'll go. You should go.
772
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,320
Okay.
773
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,300
You did say that to me, though. You
should have addressed it and not gone to
774
00:41:04,300 --> 00:41:05,480
press. Oh, my God.
775
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,040
That's bullish.
776
00:41:11,140 --> 00:41:12,140
I didn't lie, Kendall.
777
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,220
So Gretchen did tell you? Yes, and Jen
was sitting there. And that's what makes
778
00:41:15,220 --> 00:41:17,320
me so upset is Jen literally heard it.
779
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,740
Jen could have used the opportunity to
back me up a little bit, and instead she
780
00:41:21,740 --> 00:41:22,740
chose the other side.
781
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,040
And that is extremely hurtful.
782
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:30,800
Did she admit to meeting with Kiki? She
said, yes, I met with Kiki, but she said
783
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,760
to meet and be in the car. I've never
even mentioned Gretchen's name to Kiki.
784
00:41:34,780 --> 00:41:37,820
She told me she doesn't talk about us.
So I asked her, why do you meet with
785
00:41:37,820 --> 00:41:40,940
them? Because don't you think our
friends feel like you meet with these
786
00:41:40,940 --> 00:41:42,840
and discuss us? She said, Jen, I don't.
787
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,420
Then I'm like, then stop.
788
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:45,860
They're not your friends.
789
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,720
You never told her that you roofied or
went to the hospital? No, none of that.
790
00:41:50,780 --> 00:41:53,920
She said here right now and said that I
said it.
791
00:41:54,380 --> 00:41:58,580
Slade called Matt. He did call Matt.
What I understood is that he called Matt
792
00:41:58,580 --> 00:42:02,200
say, what the f*** is your wife out
saying and doing? Like, what is she
793
00:42:02,420 --> 00:42:04,720
She's spinning something and some other
thing.
794
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,580
Matt and Slade and Ryan have all had
phone calls about this. And we're not
795
00:42:08,580 --> 00:42:11,220
supposed to share it. So I'm like, all
up in my head, like, do I lie for
796
00:42:11,220 --> 00:42:12,320
Gretchen? Do I not lie for Gretchen?
797
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:13,959
I'm done.
798
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,060
No one is going to believe me. But I can
lay my head at night knowing I told the
799
00:42:18,060 --> 00:42:19,060
truth.
800
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,120
This might be like the last time anyone
sees me with this group of women.
65081
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