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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,320 [classical score playing] 2 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,840 [Pete Evans speaks] 3 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,600 [jazz music playing] 4 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,320 When you look at every other species on our planet... 5 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,320 they all control their weight automatically. 6 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:20,320 The only exception was us... 7 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,640 and any animal unfortunate enough to be fed by us. 8 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,000 I just couldn't understand why we were the exception. 9 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,800 Why did we require willpower, 10 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,320 and everything else did it on autopilot? 11 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,920 So I applied the only relevant skill I had, 12 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,760 which was looking at evidence, 13 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,520 and I found there was very little evidence 14 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,000 for the standard eating advice we are normally given, 15 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,360 and there was a whole stream of evidence 16 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,840 which had been largely ignored. 17 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,080 In fact, what we have been taught about nutrition 18 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,720 is dangerously wrong. 19 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,960 Who can tell me how Yolngu people die today? 20 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,440 [people chattering] 21 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:15,840 [woman] Heart disease. 22 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,800 [Tim Trudgen] So, heart disease, yeah. 23 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,840 -[woman 2] Liver disease. -[Tim] Liver disease. 24 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,720 -[woman 3] Asthma. -Asthma. Yeah. 25 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,240 -Diabetes. -[Tim] Diabetes. 26 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,680 -Yes! -How many of you have diabetes? 27 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,360 A lot! 28 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,520 [Tim] Probably half the people here have diabetes. 29 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:31,800 Yeah? 30 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,800 [Tim] Diabetes, heart disease, 31 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,960 high blood pressure, kidney disease-- 32 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,440 all what we call chronic diseases. 33 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,200 When did those diseases start? 34 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,480 1970s... late '70s, '80s... 35 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,200 So before that, people were dying from...? 36 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,160 -[woman] Hepatitis. -[Tim] Hepatitis. 37 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:56,640 -[woman 2] Pneumonia. -Pneumonia. 38 00:02:56,640 --> 00:02:57,920 -[woman 3] TB. -TB. 39 00:02:57,920 --> 00:03:01,200 They're all the infectious diseases. 40 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,560 [Tim] These are the ones that came with the Europeans. 41 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,440 -[chattering] -[Tim] Bacteria. Infectious diseases. 42 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,840 -Yes, yes. -[Tim] If we go back further... 43 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,960 How about the time before the Europeans came? 44 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,600 [speaking Yolngu Matha] 45 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,880 Fighting... One person kills another. 46 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:24,840 [Tim] People died from fighting. 47 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,800 Accidents... 48 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,640 Sharks... Crocodiles... 49 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:35,600 -[Tim] What's the main one? -Old age. 50 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,320 -Old age. -Old age. 51 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,320 [speaking Yolngu Matha] 52 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,640 [jazz music playing] 53 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,120 [Michelle] I had this label that I'm a fat girl. 54 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,960 I am overweight. 55 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,360 I have asthma. I've always had asthma. 56 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,320 I have a rescue inhaler, 57 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,520 and then I have a maintenance inhaler. 58 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,880 My rescue inhaler is becoming, like a regular inhaler. 59 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,760 where I use it two or three times a day. 60 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,560 -[Amy] Okay. -[Michelle] And I've just gotten used to it now. 61 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,160 And I've been in the hospital a couple of times for asthma, 62 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,560 where it got really bad. 63 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,280 When people talk about wellness and health, 64 00:04:18,280 --> 00:04:20,160 and "Are you well? How do you feel?" 65 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,080 My automatic pilot is always, "I'm great!" 66 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,640 My vision is getting worse and worse, very rapidly. 67 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,200 I had three fibroids, and one was really big. 68 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,600 Upper respiratory infection. 69 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,240 They put me on broad-spectrum antibiotics, 70 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,480 mega doses of prednisone, azithromycin. 71 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,680 And so, I have this standing prescription. 72 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,280 I'll just take it myself. I was also diagnosed with ADD. 73 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:41,240 I don't know if that came up anywhere on there. 74 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,200 -This is really important, so we missed the ADD. -Yeah. 75 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,040 -[laughter] -I'm like, "Oh, and incidentally..." 76 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,480 -[Robert] "Oh, and by the way..." 77 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,040 [jazz music playing] 78 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,360 [Michelle] I remember when I was little, 79 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,560 my mom taught me to write a letter 80 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,400 "Dear Cathy, how are you? 81 00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:59,880 I am fine." 82 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,640 Like, those were the three things I learned first. 83 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,200 "How are you? I am fine." 84 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,120 And I'm still doing that, but I'm not fine! 85 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,400 This is levothyroxine. 86 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,520 I take one a day for my thyroid. 87 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:17,640 This is atorvastatin. 88 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,480 It's for my high cholesterol. 89 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,320 This is fenofibric, tizanidine, duloxetine-- 90 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,720 I take that for anxiety. Hydrocodone, 91 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,800 cyclobenzaprine, gabapentin tablets-- 92 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,640 That's supposed to make your brain process pain in a different way. 93 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,680 This is also for my thyroid. This is for my neck pain. 94 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,560 These are muscle relaxers. 95 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,320 And that's my medication, which I think is more than enough. 96 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,680 My mom struggled with weight her whole life. 97 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,920 She created me to be an emotional eater. 98 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,040 Somebody was picking on me at school. 99 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,240 "Come on, let's go get an ice cream." 100 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,920 Something happened good in school, 101 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:01,360 "Oh, let's go out and celebrate. 102 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,440 We'll go to Mickey D's," you know. 103 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,600 And I ended up doing the same thing with my kids 104 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,400 and my grandkids. 105 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,640 My mom finally developed 106 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,920 the Alzheimer's and the dementia, 107 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,760 and I saw the progression 108 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,120 of the disease from start to finish. 109 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,440 And you know, I forget things now, 110 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:25,800 and I can't think of words, 111 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,160 and I start thinking, "Oh, my God." 112 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,920 [crying] 113 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,920 You know? "I'm-- I'm the same way. 114 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,160 I've gotten to be the same way." 115 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,160 You know? 116 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,120 [screams] 117 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,800 [shouts] 118 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,480 [Debbie] This is a vicious cycle that needs to be stopped. 119 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,360 Kim, my daughter, she has arthritis. 120 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,280 She has lymphodema. She has hypothyroid. 121 00:06:52,280 --> 00:06:54,640 Her daughter, Kaylee, is nine. 122 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,400 She has celiac's disease. 123 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,880 Barry's children are five and four, 124 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,240 Barry and Lauren, my son and daughter-in-law, 125 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,560 they have a daughter, Abigail, who's five. 126 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,040 [female nurse] Abigail? You want to come back with me? 127 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,200 Okay, sweetheart. Just step right up here. 128 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,640 [Debbie] She has autism. She's nonverbal. 129 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,600 She has epilepsy. She has central sleep apnea. 130 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,400 No, no, no, no, no, no. 131 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,320 -No, no. -[Abigail moans] 132 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,040 [Debbie] She has digestive problems. 133 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,640 [female doctor] Any trouble urinating? 134 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,160 Any trouble with bowel movements? 135 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:24,960 -She has constipation. -Constipation. 136 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,520 She's on the MiraLAX daily for that? 137 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:27,920 -Yeah. Yeah. -[woman] Okay. 138 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,720 [Barry] The hardest part-- 139 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,800 it's just having a child that can't speak. 140 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,440 I know my wife feels the same way. 141 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,280 That's-- To me, that's like the most painful part. 142 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:36,480 -Abigail. -Abs. 143 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,880 -Look. Look over here. -Abigail. 144 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,040 [Barry] Abigail seems like she's doing really well, 145 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,840 and then she'll get tired, and she'll have a whole bunch of seizures. 146 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,080 And it's like she's forgotten everything. 147 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,280 It's like her brain resets itself. 148 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,960 -Playing music? -Yeah. 149 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:55,200 [Barry] It's really the seizures that compounds her autism. 150 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,240 We're counting, on average, about 50 a day, 151 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,400 so she's getting a great big cocktail of garbage. 152 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,640 This stuff's pretty mild compared to this stuff. 153 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,200 This is called Onfi. 154 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,760 This stuff here is-- it's over $1,000 a bottle. 155 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,080 My insurance covers 70%, so... 156 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,880 I get the joy of only paying over $300 a month 157 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,720 -just for this stuff. -[girl squeals] 158 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,000 [Robert Tate] Have you noticed any improvement with it? 159 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,000 We have. Otherwise, believe me-- 160 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,880 [laughs] For over $300 a month? 161 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,400 She would've been off of it a long time ago. 162 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,960 The whole situation makes me mad, 163 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,400 but mostly just because how many six-year-old kids 164 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,080 are these neurologists putting on these heavy narcotics? 165 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:42,680 I mean, this is as bad 166 00:08:42,680 --> 00:08:45,760 as if you were to go buy heroin off of the street, 167 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,280 and that's the first thing 168 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,160 that these doctors are trained to offer the kids. 169 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,960 That's it. Good job. 170 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,560 [Barry] I hate it. 171 00:08:58,560 --> 00:08:59,880 The lump in my throat 172 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:01,960 as I was reading the side effects, man. 173 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,360 I mean, "May cause harm to yourself or others. 174 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,800 "May have rashy, irritated skin. 175 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,760 May cause sleeplessness." 176 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,920 And, like, I've seen my daughter 177 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,320 have some of these side effects. 178 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,160 [moans] 179 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,800 [Barry] We're gonna need a lot of help for sure. I just... 180 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,600 I have no idea. 181 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,680 -I have no idea how we're gonna do it. -[Robert] Do what? 182 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,760 Switch her diet. 183 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,320 She refuses just about everything except for, like... 184 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:34,080 the Goldfish and Doritos. 185 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,280 So... 186 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,640 [jazz music playing] 187 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,320 I just don't know. I don't know what 188 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,080 it's gonna be like. I may get overwhelmed with it. 189 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,280 -[hisses] -[inhales] 190 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,480 But I'm truly at a point in my life 191 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:51,720 where I'm afraid. 192 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,640 I'm afraid that my chips have run out. 193 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,000 You breathe it in, and then you hold it, 194 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,600 and then you breathe out. 195 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,560 That's how that works. 196 00:10:01,560 --> 00:10:04,000 I'm scared. I'm genuinely scared. 197 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,960 [Robert] Debbie, you're about to change your diet. 198 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,040 -What are you most afraid of? -Failure. 199 00:10:28,680 --> 00:10:30,640 -B-b-b! -[chuckles] 200 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,720 B-b-b! 201 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,320 Wishing for luck... 202 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:36,640 Yes. 203 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,320 [shudders, laughs] 204 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,120 [Nora Gedgaudas] We are all physiologically 205 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,480 and genetically hunter-gatherers. 206 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,560 We've only been consuming an agriculturally-based diet now 207 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:55,600 for maybe 500 generations or so 208 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,480 versus more than 100,000 generations-- 209 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,720 not 100,000 years, but 100,000 generations-- 210 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,800 on a largely meat- and fat-based diet. 211 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,560 We have the brains that we do because of the enormous amount 212 00:11:09,560 --> 00:11:13,320 of fat that we consumed as a species throughout our evolutionary history. 213 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,000 Suddenly now, we're eating a carbohydrate-based diet, 214 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,800 and in the last 13 or so generations, 215 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,240 since this thing called the industrial revolution, 216 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,000 this has just gone down a slippery slope. 217 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,480 [Richard Trudgen] You are the oldest culture on earth, 218 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,040 is Yolngu culture. 219 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,720 Forty-thousand years. 220 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,800 So anybody that has a go at us, 221 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,400 don't talk to us unless you've got 222 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,800 40,000 years of research. Yeah? 223 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,400 The American scientific expedition that came 224 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,240 to Arnhem Land in 1948 showed that Yolngu people 225 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,320 were extremely robust. 226 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,760 No chronic disease, great teeth, 227 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,840 well-built, muscular. 228 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,880 I remember the Yolngu in the '70s-- rippled muscles. 229 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,320 They were like supermen. 230 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,440 I came back in '83 231 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,160 to see a population that was decimated. 232 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,400 This chronic disease tsunami 233 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,760 that is now wiping across the Yolngu population. 234 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,400 [people chattering] 235 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,520 [Kama Trudgen] Funerals are just this constant part of life here, 236 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,720 where you finish one, and then the next one arrives 237 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,320 and then the next one arrives and you can kind of get a funeral fatigue. 238 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,280 -6.3. -6.3. [speaks Yolngu Matha] 239 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,520 [Kama] And all of life is needing to be 240 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,680 reorganized around that. 241 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,000 There are definitely still people are alive today 242 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,080 who, as they were growing up, 243 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,360 were living a traditional lifestyle. 244 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,440 We're running out of those people. 245 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,640 Everybody died. My friends have all gone. 246 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,640 Even my best friends. 247 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,520 They're not with me anymore. 248 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,880 -[Robert] Life's not supposed to be like that. -No. No. 249 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,600 [Robert] Yuranydjil, can you tell me, in your own words, 250 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,120 why, why are you here at this retreat? 251 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,480 -Boy, I can't talk when I'm walking. -Okay, fair enough. 252 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,000 Maybe down on the beach when I'm sitting down, I will. 253 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,120 I think my body, 254 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,960 maybe weren't built to do some walks, 255 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,920 or...I don't know. 256 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,360 I remember when I was a little girl 257 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,000 I used to come with my grandfather. 258 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,400 We'd be walking along this beach. 259 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,640 And every night he'd, he'd share stories. 260 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:58,000 He would tell me, "This is the way to go. 261 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,880 "This is what you eat. 262 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,200 "Don't eat this. 263 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,280 "This is nice, but this is bad. 264 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,240 "Don't touch this. Don't eat this. 265 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,760 It's not even food. It's "nhangining." 266 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,360 "Nhangining" meaning "non-edible." 267 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,000 Even those red and black beads, 268 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,600 they're pretty to make a good necklace, 269 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,080 but it's not good to eat. 270 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,600 It's "nhangining." 271 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,480 [chattering] 272 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,480 [Kama] So much has been done to Yolngu people 273 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,600 to send the message that they are inferior 274 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,280 and that whatever is going on in the dominant culture 275 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,120 is more powerful and superior. 276 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,120 And that definitely applies to people's perception of food. 277 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,160 [Tim] This one's got caffeine. 278 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,120 [Kama] Coca-Cola is something that's frequently drunk for breakfast. 279 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,520 It's something frequently given to really small children for breakfast. 280 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,400 A lot of people look in on that, 281 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,760 and they think, "Wow. That family mustn't care about that child." 282 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,480 But that's coming from information 283 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,600 that these families just don't have. 284 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,960 [Tim] The total carbs in one serving, 285 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,240 28.6 grams, and a serving's 40 grams. 286 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,560 [Kama] They believe they're being loving and caring 287 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,440 to their child by giving them good food 288 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,360 bought from the dominant culture's store. 289 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,400 No sugar in this one, but... [speaks Yolngu Matha] 290 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,320 [Pete Evans] The Australian government's pumping millions of dollars 291 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,400 into trying to fix Aboriginal health, 292 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,880 and here's these two individuals 293 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,600 that have managed to do 294 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,240 what they're trying to do on a large scale. 295 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:24,680 [speaks Yolngu Matha] 296 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,800 [Pete] What they're managing to do is to say, 297 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,760 "The way you had it before white person came 298 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,520 was actually the right way." 299 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,520 We have ancient wisdom, and we have modern wisdom, 300 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,200 and I think the two need to work 301 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,640 harmoniously together, in balance. 302 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,840 [Robert] So in the philosophy of Hope for Health, 303 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,320 what is good food? 304 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:51,920 Good food is food that is grounded 305 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,960 in the tradition of Aboriginal people. 306 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,600 This is the Yolngu way of cooking. 307 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,160 [Robert] And how might that translate to the rest of us? 308 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,200 [Tim] Umm, it's basically... 309 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,680 meat and vegetables. Okay? 310 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,680 Meat and vegetables that come from a place 311 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,400 that is closest to its natural state. 312 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,080 [chirping] 313 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,360 [serene music playing] 314 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,400 [David Perlmutter] Years ago, there was a commercial 315 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,200 for a particular margarine. 316 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,080 [woman] That's not margarine. That's my sweet, creamy butter. 317 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,600 [David] This woman, who actually turned out to be Mother Nature, 318 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,160 tasted it, and she said, "It's not nice to fool Mother Nature," 319 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,280 and made lightning happen and thunder. 320 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,680 The fact is that processed food is not natural. 321 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,520 That's trying to fool Mother Nature. 322 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,320 [Debbie] Should I get the trash bag out? 323 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,160 [Nell Stephenson laughs] Probably. 324 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,480 [David] We should be eating the foods that nature provides, 325 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,640 not that are scientized, not that factories provide. 326 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,840 Would it be okay if I sat down on that chair over here? 327 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,320 -Go through the store without a problem. -Yeah. 328 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:54,840 Okay. I'm sorry. 329 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,440 [Robert] Your mom is the daughter 330 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,000 of my father's sister. 331 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,280 -So, your dad is my mom's uncle. -That's right. 332 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,360 [Barry] Dude, everything in there's gonna have to go. 333 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,760 [Robert] I think it's probably best if it does. 334 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,760 Pasta Roni. What is Pasta Roni? 335 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,600 -[Debbie laughs] Pasta. -[Nell] I guess. 336 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,280 Even the name in and of itself tells you how highly processed-- 337 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,000 it's somebody's brand name. 338 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,560 -Abigail, get down. -Any food preferences? 339 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,960 I know you gave me the three-day diet diary. 340 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,080 -[Barry] Those are her food preferences. -[both laugh] 341 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,360 SpaghettiOs, chicken nuggets, 342 00:17:25,360 --> 00:17:27,920 -Goldfish. Doritos. -Goldfish is the normal-- 343 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,920 -[Robert] What about drinks? -Apple juice. 344 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,920 Apple juice. 345 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,080 [Rangan Chattergee] We've hijacked our taste buds 346 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,080 with food-like substances 347 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,400 that are not whole food, that are not real food. 348 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,360 Here's a good one. Imitation vanilla flavor. 349 00:17:44,360 --> 00:17:47,160 "Propylene glycol, sodium benzoate, phosphoric acid." 350 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,200 -Doesn't that sound lovely? -I don't even know what it is. 351 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,200 -Right. -[Robert] The whole "low fat" thing is completely wrong, 352 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,360 so we're gonna add more fat to the diet. 353 00:17:54,360 --> 00:17:56,280 I mean good, natural fats. 354 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,920 That's avocados, olive oil, 355 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,800 meat fats from pastured animals, 356 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,040 like beef tallow, duck fat, lard. 357 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,720 [Nina Teicholz] Having the federal government get behind the low-fat diet 358 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,960 changed, vastly, the food system. 359 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,040 You know, companies flooded in with all their low-fat products, 360 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,000 responding to this huge demand. 361 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,440 [Robert] One of the most insidious things the market does for us-- 362 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,680 -"Lite. Lite." -[laughter] 363 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,320 Misspelled "lite" is even worse than spelled-correctly "light." 364 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,840 Every single day now we have new-fangled foods 365 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,760 and food-like substances being introduced. 366 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,840 And then on top of it, we're genetically modifying 367 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,160 and adding chemicals and things 368 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,520 that we have no way of adapting to. 369 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,240 [Nell] There's added sugar in everything. 370 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:36,640 Ketchup-- sugar. 371 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,200 Juice for the grandkids-- sugar, sugar, sugar. 372 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,280 -Corn syrup. -[Jeff] The applesauce has corn syrup? 373 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,080 [Nell] High-fructose corn syrup is the second ingredient. 374 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,680 [Debbie] I would've never guessed. 375 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,040 "Fructose"? There's not gonna be anything in here. 376 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,520 We have found a winner. 377 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,840 You know what? Scratch that. There's sugar again. 378 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,520 -[Debbie] That's something. Wow. -Yeah. 379 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,760 Obviously, we will never again eat cereal in our lives. 380 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,400 [Robert] Perfect. Get rid of it. 381 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,360 [David] Bread and other grain-related products are really worrisome, 382 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:07,440 "A," because of their gluten issue, 383 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,880 but most importantly because of their carbohydrate content. 384 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,640 -I don't even know if we need to say anything about this. -Uh, yeah. 385 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,280 -[Nell] Just-- you know. -[Debbie] Okay. 386 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,440 [William Davis] I call wheat the "perfect obesogen." 387 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,480 Food perfectly crafted to make you fat. 388 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,520 Wheat is in all frozen dinners, all breakfast cereals, 389 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,560 taco seasoning, seasoning mixes, 390 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,400 instant soup mixes, canned soup, salad dressings. 391 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,280 In other words, of the 60,000 products 392 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,480 in the average supermarket today, 393 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,400 59,000 have wheat. 394 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,360 [Pete] There is nothing you can get out of grain 395 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:41,280 that you can't get anywhere else. 396 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,960 Not even close, in fact. 397 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,720 Meat, seafood, vegetables, 398 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,680 fruit, nuts, seeds, and eggs 399 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,840 have so much more to give. 400 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,760 "Maple and brown sugar," "heart healthy." 401 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,000 -You know that that can't be right, right? -[laughs] 402 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,160 [William] Wheat was added 10,000 years ago, 403 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,320 which sounds like a long time, 'cause it predates 404 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,840 the Egyptian empire, the Greek empire, the Roman empire. 405 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:05,600 But 10,000 years represents less than one-half of one percent 406 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,600 of human race's time on Earth. 407 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,800 [Nina] We went from a diet that was 90% meat and fat 408 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,520 to suddenly relying on grains and legumes 409 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,600 for the very first time in our evolutionary history. 410 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,280 These all gotta go. You know, when a label goes out of its way 411 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,520 to tell you how healthy it is-- 412 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,000 "100% whole grain, reduced fat." 413 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,840 By taking fat out, you guarantee 414 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,880 that people have to shift over to high-carbohydrate foods. 415 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,800 That's just what happens. 416 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,800 [David] Fat is a critically important part of our diet, 417 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,040 but we've gotta be super selective, 'cause some fats 418 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,840 are very threatening to our health. 419 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,680 The reason olive oil is so good is 420 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,600 because you can get the oil out of the olive really easily. 421 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,520 It's like cold-pressed extra virgin olive oil. 422 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,160 But you take something like this-- this, poison. 423 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,280 [Nina] In order to make packaged food, 424 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,160 you need a fat that's solid and stable. 425 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,040 So, everything on a supermarket shelf-- 426 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,640 cookies, crackers, chips-- need a hard fat, a solid fat. 427 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,240 That's what gives it shelf life. 428 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,720 If you get rid of butter, suet, tallow, lard-- 429 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,320 traditional fats-- as our guidelines told us to do, 430 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,720 what's left? Hardened vegetable oils, 431 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,760 which is basically trans fats. 432 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,040 We don't want to use any of the vegetable oils 433 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,840 like corn oil or safflower oil, soybean oil. 434 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,520 [Kate Shanahan] Vegetable oils are toxic. They're industrial oils. 435 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,320 They are foods that we could not have manufactured 436 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,680 until the industrial era. 437 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,240 There are seeds that have oil in them 438 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,800 but that don't release their oil readily, 439 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,520 so you have to use high heat and solvents to do so. 440 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,600 That totally wrecks the molecules, 441 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,160 destroys many of the antioxidants, 442 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,320 It's a mangled, disgusting, smelly mess. 443 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,440 Every cell in your body is wrapped in a membrane 444 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,440 that's made out of about half fat and half protein. 445 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,480 If the fatty acids comprising 446 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,560 your cell membrane are unnatural, 447 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,800 that cell membrane cannot function 448 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,600 in the way that it's supposed to function. 449 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,160 And that's the beginning of disease. 450 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,800 It starts at the cellular level. 451 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,280 Vegetable oils are acting like little miniature Trojan horses. 452 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,240 Your body doesn't recognize them as not natural. 453 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,480 It will make cell membranes, it will make brain cells, 454 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,280 but it's as if you were trying to build a house 455 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,200 and your contractor said, 456 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,640 "Um, well, we don't have any bricks, 457 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:19,000 "but we do have these little Styrofoam balls. 458 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,720 -Let's go for it." -Did the food grow on the planet? 459 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,200 Did it swim in the water? Did it run on land? That's food. 460 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,400 [Rangan] The one question I wish every single doctor 461 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,080 on this planet would ask every single one of their patients is... 462 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,920 "What are you eating?" 463 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:16,680 [mooing] 464 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,960 [Nell] We have gotten a really nice selection 465 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,640 of leafy green vegetables. 466 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,960 You've got some excellent proteins-- 467 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,080 wild salmon, bison-- fresh ginger root. 468 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,800 We have some nice fat choices. 469 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,920 We're gonna be cooking with some coconut oil 470 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,640 -and lard. -Okay. 471 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,240 What we're doing is focusing on things that are natural. 472 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,920 [Pete] In the western world, 473 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,640 we're not suffering diseases of underconsumption. 474 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,280 In fact, it's the opposite. 475 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,400 We're suffering diseases of overconsumption. 476 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,600 And once we get rid of refined oils, 477 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,800 processed foods, refined grains, 478 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,160 what we're left with is vegetables, fruit, nuts, seeds, 479 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,880 meat, seafood, and good, healthy fats. 480 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,000 And that is what we should be focusing on. 481 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,360 -Okay, here's the turmeric. -Yup. 482 00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:35,320 So, we're gonna use some coconut oil to the pan. 483 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,480 [Debbie] Yeah. Barry, you know the pan spray I had? 484 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,280 -[Barry] Mm-hmm. -[Debbie] Had to throw it out. 485 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,640 [David] There's no question that the brain can burn glucose. 486 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,960 What powers the brain far more efficiently 487 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,760 in terms of its energy-producing components, 488 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,320 called the mitochondria, is fat. 489 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,200 [Debbie] So, we're going to get lard all over our hands? 490 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,000 -[Nell] Yes. -[Debbie] Okay. 491 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,520 [David] Our brains thrive in a fat-burning environment. 492 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,560 Now, technically, we call this a state of ketosis, 493 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,720 and to get into a state of ketosis, 494 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,960 one assumes what is called a ketogenic diet, 495 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,040 which basically means a diet that's lower in carbs 496 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,560 and higher in fat. 497 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,800 Oh, that smells amazing with that garlic. 498 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,320 [Robert] Barry, have you ever cooked anything like this in your life? 499 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,000 No. [laughs] 500 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,280 Being in a mild state of ketosis is really the place to be. 501 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,400 [acoustic guitar playing] 502 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,160 [Michelle] Okay, this is my first video diary. 503 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,560 I started this new way of eating today. 504 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,000 I figured since we're talking about all-natural, 505 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,200 I'm going to torment people by having on no makeup. 506 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,240 Okay, I know this is not supposed to be a big old cooking show, 507 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,800 but here we have some lamb with the bone in, 508 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,800 and I am sautéing them in some coconut oil, 509 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,000 and the green you see is kale that I just removed. 510 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,280 And I made some riced cauliflower, 511 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,360 so that I can feel like I'm having carbs. 512 00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:24,920 Bone broth in all of these, by the way. 513 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,960 Normally, I would just go out and eat three times a day. 514 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,560 I'm so used to grabbing and going, 515 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,240 but I am really gonna do this. 516 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,080 I am gonna do this. I have to do this. 517 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,880 [Abigail crying] 518 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,960 [Emma] Not gonna eat them. 519 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,200 Emma's convinced that we are punishing her. 520 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,720 -You want some chicken? -[Emma] No. 521 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,080 [Barry] No? Why not? 522 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,280 I don't like them! 523 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,920 She's like, "Why are you taking all of my food away?" 524 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,360 [crying] 525 00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:58,280 [Barry] "This is mean. I can't eat macaroni and cheese. 526 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,280 I can't eat chicken nuggets. I can't eat SpaghettiOs." 527 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,600 -No. -[Barry] She just went down the list... 528 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,200 -No. -...tattering through this list of, of junk. 529 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,720 I'm just like, "Man, we didn't feed her anything healthy." 530 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,520 Like, we literally took away 531 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,200 everything that our children have been eating. 532 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,040 -[crying] -Okay, okay, don't throw it. 533 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,880 Those are scrambled eggs on the floor. 534 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,560 She just started pushing my hand away 535 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,880 as I was sticking the fork into her mouth. 536 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,120 And then she literally crawled across the counter 537 00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:35,280 and she grabbed this bag of Goldfish that was sitting there. 538 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,880 She ripped it open and just starts shoveling handfuls 539 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,040 of Goldfish into her mouth. 540 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,520 It reminded me of when I was a drug addict. 541 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,960 I would get my bag, and I'd be fiending... 542 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,000 for, for something. I'd be fiending for a fix. 543 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,200 Oh, for goodness sake. 544 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,960 The first five days, she starved herself. 545 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,320 She barely ate anything. 546 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,000 Yeah, I'm burnt out, man. I'm burnt out. 547 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,960 That was the turning point. 548 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,920 She was just, "More, more, more, more, more." [laughs] 549 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,640 Good job! 550 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,520 I mean, she just was a bottomless pit. 551 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,960 Abigail's eating coconut. 552 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,480 And from that day forward, it was like-- 553 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,760 she was eating everything I gave her. Everything. 554 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,720 [woman] There you go. 555 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,360 [Kate] Barry texted me the day that she was eating with a fork. 556 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:27,920 [Barry] There you go. Good job! 557 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,920 He texted me that she had never done that before, 558 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,040 that she was eating a piece of steak with a fork. 559 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,720 [Barry] And what is she eating? Steak and kale! 560 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,520 And, I mean, I was-- I was literally jumping up and down, 561 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,600 and I think he was too. I was so happy. 562 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,360 She just took the fork and... [mimics pop] 563 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,960 stuck the-- stuck the steak and popped it in her mouth 564 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,200 like she's been doing it her whole life. It was crazy. 565 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,480 So anyways, we're doing great. 566 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,120 I'm looking forward to seeing 567 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,880 where she's at in another two weeks. 568 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,320 There you go! Good job! 569 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,800 [Lisa Thatcher] When a little baby's put in your arms... 570 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,840 and you giggle, and they giggle back... 571 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,840 this little body is talking to me 572 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,320 without language, 573 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,400 but talking in their own way. 574 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,040 And the baby lights up. 575 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,600 He never lit up. 576 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,840 We knew from the moment that he was put in our arms 577 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:30,320 at two weeks old-- we knew something was amiss. 578 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,280 When he was three, I decided to put him 579 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,920 on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet. 580 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,960 Just meat, vegetable, fruit, nuts, and seeds. 581 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,320 Third day on Specific Carbohydrate Diet, 582 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,200 he fed himself for the first time. 583 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,040 Fifth day, he said his first word. 584 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,120 So I almost fell over on my chair. 585 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,800 He said, "We come," for "welcome." [crying] 586 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:02,400 'Cause I said, "Thank you." I would always talk to him. 587 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,040 And it was always me doing the talking-- us doing the talking. 588 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,240 And he, you know, wouldn't answer to his name, 589 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,000 all that typical autism stuff. 590 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,400 And I said, "Thank you," and he said, "We come." 591 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,200 One of the things, though, that always bothered me 592 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,400 was that he didn't seem to be able to stop... 593 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,000 bobbing, rocking... 594 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,840 verbal noises, 595 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,840 and so I was already beginning to wonder about... 596 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,440 if he needed something more. 597 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,040 [Ryan Lee] We're at the Shriners Hospitals for Children in Honolulu. 598 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,680 We take care of children with brain-based disorders. 599 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,280 Specifically, we specialize in autism, 600 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,360 ADHD, and other developmental problems. 601 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,160 Use this hand and tap your fingers. 602 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,960 [narrates] Our medical study involves a clinical trial. 603 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,960 We're investigating not only 604 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,560 if the ketogenic diet impacts children with autism... 605 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,400 [child] Do you have any parents? 606 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,080 [Ryan] ...but also how it might impact children with autism. 607 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,880 To help with their language, help with their socialization. 608 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,360 We want children to be able 609 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,000 to interact meaningfully with their families again. 610 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,680 And you put that one in there, 611 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,560 and you can push it off with-- Yeah. 612 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,200 [Miki Wong] The ketogenic diet and the state of ketosis 613 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,360 changes the metabolism in the body, 614 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,400 and so instead of using glucose 615 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,920 as your primary, go-to fuel, 616 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,480 the body taps into ketones. 617 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,280 Do you want butter too, or you're fine? 618 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,880 -I'm okay. -[Lisa] Yeah. 619 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,960 Ketones are acids that the body produces from fat. 620 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,840 It cannot be produced from carbohydrates or sugars. 621 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,720 [Lisa] He likes coconut oil all over everything. 622 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,440 [Miki] And the body uses the ketones for energy for the brain, 623 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,200 and the free fatty acids for the muscles. 624 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,840 Good balance. Open your eyes. 625 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,520 [Ryan] Aaron Thatcher's been on the ketogenic diet 626 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,400 for approximately six months. 627 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,960 He has seen an improvement 628 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:02,520 in some of the core features of his autism, 629 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,120 including increased socialization, 630 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,760 interaction with his mom... 631 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,120 Just to get him peaceful-- 632 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,760 -Yup. -It is huge. 633 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,600 It brings peace to the whole family. 634 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,520 And I would say, you know, our loving interactions are more. 635 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,560 [Ryan] Increased independence and self-care skills, 636 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,400 decrease in his stereotypic 637 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,800 repetitive movements and behaviors. 638 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,640 [woman] Aaron, we're going to put these puzzles together. Okay? 639 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,520 Start with these and I have some here, and let me know when you need more. 640 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,280 [Ryan] As evidenced by his scores on the ADOS, 641 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,360 he initially, pre-diet, had an ADOS score of 16, 642 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,680 which is in the high range 643 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,080 for autism. 644 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,880 And on his three-month follow-up, 645 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:38,960 had a score of 8. 646 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,440 [woman] What do you like doing 647 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,080 that makes you feel happy and cheerful? 648 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,640 Coming here. 649 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,960 [woman] Coming here? You like coming here? 650 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,640 Okay. What are some other things that make you feel happy? 651 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,440 Taking a bus. 652 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,000 [woman] Taking a bus. That sounds fun. 653 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,200 Okay. How about things that you're afraid of? 654 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,800 -Are there things that-- -Turtles. 655 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,160 [woman] Turtles, like in the story that we read? 656 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,080 The ocean. 657 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,120 [woman] Oh. The "honu" in the ocean! That makes you feel afraid? 658 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,480 [Robert] I was watching Aaron take the ADOS, 659 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,920 and there are questions on the test like, "What do you find scary?" 660 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,920 -And he said... -"Turtles." 661 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,520 [Robert] Great! "A plus," right? 662 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,640 So I said, "Can you say that in a complete sentence?" 663 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,440 -Given the opportunity, he probably could. -[Robert] He did! 664 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,440 -He did? [laughs] -[Robert] We did give him the opportunity. 665 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,360 Can you tell me in a full sentence? 666 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,000 -I'm afraid of turtles. -[Robert] Awesome. 667 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,720 Tell me in a full sentence, what makes you feel happy? 668 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,920 -I feel happy I took the bus. -[Robert] Awesome! 669 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,600 That's more therapeutic 670 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,240 than the question that we asked him. 671 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,800 -[woman] Do you ever feel sad? -Mmm. 672 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,600 [woman] Can you describe what it's like when you feel sad? 673 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,560 Sometimes I feel lonely. 674 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,720 [Robert] What makes you feel lonely? 675 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,800 When I be by myself. 676 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,280 -[woman] Ohh. Can you say that in a full sentence? -[Robert] Full sentence. 677 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,840 -"I feel..." -I feel upset 678 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,400 because I'm a lonely... 679 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:06,520 -person by my...self. -[Robert] Yeah. 680 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,440 [Ryan] There's some common metabolic processes in the body 681 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,040 that exist within every cell in our body. 682 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,680 If you're taking a medicine, 683 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,040 you're targeting a specific mechanism within the body. 684 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,120 Whereas, if you approach it more broadly, such as through food, 685 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,160 we might be able to influence a variety of organ systems 686 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,440 including the brain, the pancreas, the liver, 687 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,080 muscle cells, blood vessels, et cetera... 688 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,640 through one intervention. 689 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,080 And this is not a new thought. 690 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,760 This is an old thought. 691 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,800 Thousands of years old. 692 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,640 [chattering] 693 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,280 [jazz music playing] 694 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,240 [Michelle] I think that eating alone 695 00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:11,240 only bolsters the little hamsters in your head 696 00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:13,440 that are telling you what you should and shouldn't do. 697 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,200 I mean, I rarely will sit and eat a meal alone 698 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,560 without there being some little commentary going on in the back. 699 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,240 "Well, you really should have less of this," 700 00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:23,320 or, "You really should have done this or that." 701 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,000 [Natalie] There we go. Look at that beautiful bird. 702 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,320 [Michelle] Oh, that looks so good! 703 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,880 But when you eat with other people, 704 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,600 you end up talking, and bonding, and sharing. 705 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,200 I like-- I just like that better. 706 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,160 So you'll see that there's meat and there's fat in here. 707 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,200 You don't have to eat it, but it's really good. 708 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,600 [Lisa] It's interesting with the fat that's floating. 709 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,960 I've become so ingrained over the years of, 710 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,280 -"Fat's no good. Fat's no good. Don't want fat in my diet." -[Michelle] I know. 711 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,360 You know what I mean? It's hard to like-- 712 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,080 [Michelle] I thought about your face. I'm like, "Lisa's gonna be like, 713 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,200 'I cannot eat that.'" I thought about you! 714 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,280 [Lisa] Well, it all started with Susan Powter back in the early '90s. 715 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,200 [Michelle] Yes! With the spiky hair. 716 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,320 [Lisa] I'd go buy a fat-free cake, and I'd eat the whole thing, 717 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,280 and I'd be like, "I'm eating fat free!" 718 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,760 -[laughter] -[Natalie] But all of that sugar turns into fat. 719 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,760 It's carbs. So, they say it's fat-free, when really-- 720 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,240 [Michelle] Yeah, when you're eating it at the time, it's fat-free. 721 00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:09,880 -It has no fat in it. -But what does it turn into once it goes into your system? 722 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,120 [Michelle] Fat. More fat. 723 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,760 So we're going to make the mayonnaise. 724 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,760 Basically, eggs and lemon plus oil equals mayonnaise. 725 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,440 -[Natalie] Okay! I love it. -[Michelle] Right? 726 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,640 -So let's prove it. -[Natalie] This is olive oil. 727 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:24,960 Yeah, I'm using olive oil. 728 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,800 You want to use a pure oil like this 729 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,560 that isn't going to be toxic to your body. 730 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,760 [Lisa] It's terrifying. Look at all that oil. 731 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,840 [Michelle] And Lisa's scared of the oil. It's going to be okay, Lisa! 732 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,000 I'm like counting up the Weight Watchers points in my head. 733 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,160 I would love to be able to... 734 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,320 not have to count 735 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,000 Weight Watchers points, and not have to... 736 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:50,000 be so scared of eating sometimes, you know? 737 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,040 But I'm scared of, "If I don't do that, then I'll gain the weight back." 738 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,360 And so it's that-- It's that allowing yourself 739 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,040 to have the freedom to trust your body, 740 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,760 to trust that when you do it, 741 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,560 it'll be okay, because you're eating real food. 742 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,000 [Natalie] Doing this as an act of love, 743 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,440 as something we're all owed. Remember that? 744 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,240 [chattering] 745 00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:16,200 -I'm just gonna do it to taste. -[Michelle] Oh, my God, I'm so excited. 746 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,400 To a long life of happiness and health. 747 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,040 -And friendship. -And friendship. Absolutely. Cheers! 748 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,320 -That was fun. -I love you girls. 749 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,280 I love you too. 750 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,040 [jazz music playing] 751 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,920 [Nina] In the 1950s, the nation was 752 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,440 really in a panic about the rising tide of heart disease 753 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,200 that had come from pretty much out of nowhere 754 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,800 to be the nation's leading cause of death. 755 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,480 In 1955, 756 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,560 President Eisenhower himself has a heart attack, 757 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,200 and he's out of the Oval Office for 10 days. 758 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,320 The nation is fixated on this problem-- 759 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,240 an urgent public health problem. 760 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:50,120 And nobody really knows what causes heart disease. Right? 761 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,880 There's a number of different explanations: 762 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,640 maybe it's a lack of vitamins, maybe it's car exhaust. 763 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:59,280 So into this vacuum steps Ancel Keys... 764 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,160 a pathologist from the University of Minnesota, 765 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,760 and he says, "It's saturated fats. 766 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,440 Saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease." 767 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,280 Of 10 men, we can expect five to get it. 768 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,280 [Nina] And that was his hypothesis. 769 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,520 He had an unshakable faith in his own beliefs. 770 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,160 He was called a bully even by his friends. 771 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,920 And he was able to get his beliefs 772 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,440 inserted into the American Heart Association. 773 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,600 So the first ever dietary recommendations 774 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,000 telling people to cut back 775 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,800 on saturated fat and dietary cholesterol 776 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,480 to avoid heart disease were issued 777 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,280 by the American Heart Association in 1961. 778 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,400 That's the beginning of the story. 779 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,040 It's the tiny little acorn 780 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,760 that grew into the giant oak tree of advice 781 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,840 that we have today and that we can't back out of. 782 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,680 What was the evidence for that recommendation 783 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,880 by the American Heart Association? 784 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,000 It amounted to one study, 785 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,680 coincidentally performed by Ancel Keys. 786 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,280 That's the Seven Countries Study, 787 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,040 where he went to seven countries around the world, 788 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,600 mainly in Europe but also the U.S. and Japan. 789 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,400 And he sampled nearly 13,000 men, 790 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,480 and he looked at their diet, he looked at their cholesterol, 791 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,200 and then he waited to see 792 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,360 who had a heart attack or who died of heart disease. 793 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,760 I mean, he had a hypothesis that saturated fat 794 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,400 caused heart disease, and he was out to prove it. 795 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,600 For one, it's very clear that he cherry-picked his countries. 796 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,360 He had done a number of pilot studies. 797 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,960 He knew where people were not eating much saturated fat 798 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,880 and had low rates of heart disease, like Yugoslavia and Italy. 799 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,960 And he ignored other countries-- 800 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,840 also low rates of heart disease-- 801 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,440 like Germany, Switzerland, and France 802 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,600 where they ate a lot of saturated fats. 803 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,000 He didn't go to those countries, 804 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,320 which would have disproven his hypothesis. 805 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,880 His study showed that low saturated fat intake 806 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,360 was associated with low rates of heart disease. Associated. 807 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,200 But it doesn't mean that reducing saturated fat 808 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,920 is what caused those people to suffer less heart disease. 809 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,600 It was also true 810 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,680 that these people ate very little sugar. 811 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,760 In fact, they also found in that study 812 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,280 that what correlated best 813 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,000 with cardiovascular death was sugar. 814 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,560 Then what ensued was a tremendous amount 815 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,360 of science to try to prove Ancel Keys' 816 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,600 hypothesis right. 817 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,000 Billions of dollars were spent in large clinical trials, 818 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,960 the most rigorous kind of science you can do. 819 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,760 And they were done in mental hospitals and veterans hospitals-- 820 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,400 the kind of experiment that you can't do anymore 821 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,080 because it's considered unethical. 822 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,760 And at the end of billions of dollars of research, 823 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,120 they could not prove Ancel Keys' hypothesis. 824 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,920 We have lived a lie for 50 years. 825 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,560 [Marika Sboros] Professor Timothy Noakes is one of the very few scientists 826 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,240 in the world who have an A1 rating. 827 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:54,960 [Reporter] Sports scientist Timothy Noakes 828 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,160 begins his defense against unprofessional conduct. 829 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,200 The charges against Noakes were laid 830 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,600 by the Association of Dietetics in South Africa, 831 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,840 after he advised a mother on Twitter 832 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,040 to ween her child onto a low-carb, high-fat diet. 833 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,320 [Marika] The health dietitian tweeted, "Don't listen to him! 834 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,160 It's a terrible thing to say. I'm going to report you!" 835 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,680 [man] This will seriously harm our profession! 836 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,320 The dietitian went on and lodged a complaint 837 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,640 with the Health Professions Council of South Africa-- 838 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:24,080 that's the regulatory body-- for unprofessional conduct. 839 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,520 That is the most serious charge 840 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,400 you can level against a medical doctor. 841 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,760 It's time for us to take charge of our nation's health. 842 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,760 This is a modern-day trial of Galileo. 843 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,600 [Joan Adams] Good morning. It's the 16th of February, 2016. 844 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:45,160 We continue with the official conduct hearing against Dr. T. Noakes. 845 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,480 And, Professor, you are still under oath. 846 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:48,840 [Noakes] Thank you, Madam Chair. 847 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,520 -[Joan] Yes. -This is a unique event 848 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,120 in the history of modern medicine 849 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,160 that a scientist has been charged 850 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,160 with giving unconventional advice, 851 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,440 and can get up there and say, "Actually, 852 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,560 it is not unconventional." 853 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,240 It has been in the literature. 854 00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:05,800 [Marika] The Association for Dietetics in South Africa 855 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:10,040 is very, very much a gatekeeper of nutrition advice 856 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,960 and the official dietary guidelines of South Africa. 857 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,960 It's time to look at the results and the outcomes 858 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,160 and say, "Maybe we got it wrong." 859 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,280 [Marika] And Professor Noakes is building a really powerful case 860 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,440 for what really lies behind the epidemic 861 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,240 of non-communicable diseases around the world. 862 00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:31,160 That's obesity, diabetes, heart disease, cancer-- 863 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,360 even dementia, that is now being called 864 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,560 type III diabetes because of its links with diet. 865 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,400 I'm talking about insulin resistance, 866 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,480 which is so prevalent in this country. 867 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,520 [Marika] What actually lies at the heart of his case is the science, 868 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,040 the wealth of evidence 869 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,760 that supports low-carb, high-fat eating, 870 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,040 and equally that high-carb, 871 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,400 low-fat isn't so good for you after all. 872 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,920 One of the definitive studies of the low-fat diet 873 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,560 was done in the United States by the National Institute of Health 874 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,160 to prove that low-fat diet reduced the risk of cardiovascular disease, 875 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,480 and they invested $700 million into it. 876 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,280 There were 48,000 post-menopausal women 877 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,280 who were going to be studied for eight years. 878 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,880 They were divided into two groups: 879 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,680 40% were assigned to the low-fat eating pattern, 880 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,440 and 60% could just eat what they liked. 881 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,320 The low-fat group were told to reduce their energy from fat to 20% 882 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,320 and from saturated fat to 7%, 883 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,120 and increase their fruit and vegetable intake 884 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,720 to at least five servings per day 885 00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:30,920 and grains to at least six servings per day. 886 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,480 So that would be the dietary guidelines for Americans. 887 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,440 And what did they find? 888 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,000 After eight years, this amazing study-- 889 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,680 the low-fat diet did not significantly reduce the risk 890 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,320 of coronary heart disease, stroke, or cardiovascular disease, 891 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,360 and achieved only modest effects on cardiovascular risk factors. 892 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,400 So after all that effort, that was the outcome. 893 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,120 [Nina] In the 35 years we've been following the guidelines, 894 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,280 animal fats are down by 17%, 895 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,440 red meat down by 17%, eggs are down by 17%, 896 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,800 whole milk down by 73%! 897 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,880 So, everything we've been told to cut down on, we have cut down, 898 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,720 and everything we were told to increase, we increased. 899 00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:08,480 Grains are up by 41%, 900 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,800 vegetable oils up by 91%, 901 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,240 fruit up by 13%, vegetables up by 23%. 902 00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:17,400 So on the whole, Americans have been following the guidelines. 903 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,960 It leads you inevitably to the conclusion 904 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,840 there must be something wrong with the guidelines themselves. 905 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,840 There were parts of the study which were a bit worrying, 906 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,800 and this was women who were sick 907 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,560 at the start of the trial with diabetes. 908 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,640 This healthy diet should make them even healthier, 909 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,160 but it didn't. Women with diabetes did worse. 910 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,440 And what I find interesting is they never reported 911 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,760 the eight-year data on women with diabetes 912 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:46,360 in that study, and you have to ask, "Why?" 913 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,960 [Nina] When these study results are coming out, they're deeply inconvenient. 914 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,640 This hypothesis has been adopted 915 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,960 not only by the American Heart Association, 916 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,560 but also by the National Institutes of Health, 917 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,080 the entire federal government, 918 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,280 medical societies, and a number of industries: 919 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,280 the vegetable oil industry, ADM, Monsanto, Bunge-- 920 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,000 some of the biggest companies in the world-- 921 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,400 and the grain industry, and the soybean industry. 922 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,600 So these results had to be 923 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,840 ignored somehow or suppressed. 924 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,040 [Marika] I've been left with a very disturbing feeling 925 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,800 that this hearing was set up from the very beginning. 926 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,360 We'll adjourn tomorrow at 10:00 sharp. 927 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,400 [Marika] There is much more at stake than a simple tweet. 928 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,760 There are powerful vested interests. 929 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,080 People stand to lose a lot-- whether it's status, money-- 930 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,480 in accepting Professor Noakes' viewpoint. 931 00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:54,720 [Robert] Could you describe what the low-carb, high-fat pyramid would be? 932 00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:56,560 Yeah. Actually, that's an important-- 933 00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,080 that is maybe a graphic that, more than any other-- 934 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,680 What you have to do is take the existing food pyramid 935 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,640 and turn it upside-down. 936 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,560 So that everything that used to be in the base of the food pyramid-- 937 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,480 grains, carbohydrates-- really has to be up in the tip. 938 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,720 And then below that are our fruits and vegetables, 939 00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:15,640 and then the big bottom slab 940 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,240 really has to be fats and animal foods. 941 00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:20,680 That is actually what a healthy diet looks like. 942 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,920 Hi. Hi! How are you guys doing? 943 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,720 [Kate] I was so excited to come here today 944 00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:38,760 to see if there's any changes with Abigail. 945 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,120 The first time I met her, 946 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,160 she was walking on top of the window sills... 947 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,280 -She's a climber! [laughs] -Abigail, get down! 948 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,560 ...flopping all around on the couches... 949 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,000 [laughter] 950 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,600 -[doorbell rings] -[Kate] She comes in and... 951 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,840 -Hey, cutie! -...she's absolutely calm. 952 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,760 -[Barry] Say hi. -[Kate] Hi, Abigail. Do you remember me? 953 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,960 It's very exciting. Very exciting. 954 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,360 [Barry] Can you say hi? 955 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,600 Seems like she's losing some of that massive belly. 956 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,960 It looked like she was, like, constantly bloated. 957 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,080 That seems to have decreased. 958 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,480 Her bowels have regulated. 959 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,880 They were using a laxative every single day. 960 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,480 And I don't know if you noticed that when you're trying 961 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,440 to present her something that she doesn't want... 962 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,840 -No! -[Barry] No? 963 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,800 -She's actually saying, "No." -[Robert] Yeah, I noticed that too, actually. 964 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,960 With her mouth. She's actually saying, "No." 965 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:32,240 She's able to concentrate and she's able to progress, 966 00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:37,360 because she's not running all over the place and she's not seizing. 967 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,160 Her seizures are going down, 968 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,200 and we have tangible data from the school. 969 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,400 We are actually starting to ween her off 970 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,560 of the anticonvulsory narcotic 971 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,840 that she's on that I think you guys heard 972 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,720 plenty of complaints from me about. 973 00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:57,200 There are great strides within just five weeks. It's great. 974 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,560 [Robert] What do you make of his sort of subdued attitude about all that? 975 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,960 [laughs] They live with Abigail day-in and day-out. 976 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,120 You don't see your children grow. 977 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,720 -[Robert] Incredible news. -[Kate] Yeah. 978 00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:09,960 -[Robert] Not big news or...? -[Kate] Yeah. 979 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,840 I have faith in bigger and better things, man. 980 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,040 [jazz music playing] 981 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,640 [Sara] All right, let me just get my recipe for this one. 982 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,120 So we're going to make the chocolates and then-- 983 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,640 [Sara] I want you to grind the macadamia nuts. 984 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,240 [narrating] Today, we're gonna be making two survival foods 985 00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:41,120 for somebody just starting out. 986 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,560 The first one is macadamia bread. 987 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,720 -[Robert] That's your fat bread that I saw? -That's my fat bread. 988 00:48:45,720 --> 00:48:48,000 I'll deal with the messy part 'cause I've got the apron. 989 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,120 -[Jane laughs] -[Sara] And I'd like to make a sugarless chocolate. 990 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,160 It's something you can have in your refrigerator 991 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,240 when you just, "Ah, I need something sweet." 992 00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:58,200 -We both needed our little something. -Yeah. 993 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,440 I use stevia. I don't use sugar 994 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,040 because it elevates my blood sugar. 995 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,680 [Jane] Taste it. See what you think. 996 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:06,880 I think it's perfect. 997 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,120 [Jane] I think it's perfect too. 998 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:09,440 I think it's perfect. 999 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,400 Everybody needs to learn a new word 1000 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,320 it's called hyperinsulinemia. 1001 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,880 We're going to grind the macadamia nuts into a butter. 1002 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,000 We are constantly triggering our insulin. 1003 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,360 Some people develop type II diabetes, 1004 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,000 some people develop cardiovascular disease, 1005 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,000 some people develop Alzheimer's. 1006 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,120 I developed cancer. 1007 00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:40,920 In 2012, I went for a breast MRI... 1008 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,760 and something lit up like a Christmas light. 1009 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,560 I had invasive with HER2 amplification, 1010 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,760 which is a very aggressive 1011 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,440 and metastatic type of breast cancer. 1012 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,240 I'm going to add the coconut butter. 1013 00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:59,760 Cancer cells have an Achilles' Heel. 1014 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,160 You inhale oxygen, 1015 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,560 your blood stream carries oxygen throughout your body. 1016 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,400 So that's an energy source for healthy cells, 1017 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,320 and that energy is used by the mitochondria, 1018 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,560 which is in the cytoplasm of the cell. 1019 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,880 But cancer cells can't do that. 1020 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,800 Don't do this if you have granite. 1021 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,560 They can't get energy from oxygen. 1022 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,440 Cancer cells need to ferment. 1023 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,880 They need sugar and refined carbohydrate to proliferate. 1024 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,040 Did you ever see "Star Trek: The Trouble with Tribbles"? 1025 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,800 Okay? Do you remember at the end they say, "I figured it out! 1026 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,960 If you don't want them to reproduce, stop feeding them." 1027 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,080 And that's what cancer is. 1028 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,440 So I started a ketogenic diet. 1029 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,960 A ketogenic diet is a high-fat, very-low-carb. 1030 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,000 It's like Atkins on steroids. 1031 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,920 This particular diet for cancer means 80% healthy fats, 1032 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,120 10, 12, maybe 14% protein... 1033 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,840 and no more than 12 grams carbohydrates. 1034 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,520 [Jane] Oh, yeah. Look at how nicely it rose. 1035 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,200 [Sara] All I was looking for 1036 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,280 was to prevent it from metastasizing, 1037 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,880 and, surprise of surprise, it started shrinking. 1038 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,400 My tumor started shrinking. 1039 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,040 You can see it came out gorgeous. 1040 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,360 And my last MRI, the radiologist said, 1041 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,000 "Had I not known you were diagnosed and treated, 1042 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,440 "I would look at this from another patient 1043 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,480 and say, 'Nothing to see here.'" 1044 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,560 [Robert] So, you never actually went through chemotherapy? 1045 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,720 I didn't do surgery, I didn't do chemotherapy, 1046 00:51:35,720 --> 00:51:37,600 and I didn't do radiation. No. 1047 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,320 [Robert] The headscarf is a religious-- 1048 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,880 Right. Yes. Absolutely. 1049 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,480 No. No. I have my hair. 1050 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,120 -[Robert] I don't know how to ask that. -I have my hair. 1051 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,960 [Sara] I eat well. I have a wonderful family. 1052 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,720 I have a wonderful healthy life. 1053 00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:51,520 This can be in a doughnut pan 1054 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,720 so you can make lox, cream cheese, and bagels. 1055 00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:57,160 I've never had an illness from the day I was diagnosed. 1056 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,760 My immune system is so good now 1057 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,320 that everybody will get sick with the flu, 1058 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,680 and my grandchildren are coughing in my face 1059 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,400 and sticking their hands in my mouth, and I don't get sick. 1060 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,600 -That's the norm. -[Sara] Yes. That is the norm. 1061 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,360 [acoustic guitar playing] 1062 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,840 [Sara] I'd walk into the doctor's office, and they'd say, 1063 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,600 "Ah! Our miracle patient has arrived." 1064 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,440 And that was very disturbing to me, 1065 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:19,960 because I didn't think-- 1066 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,840 you know, God runs the world of course, 1067 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,760 but I didn't think there was anything miraculous 1068 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:29,040 about what was happening. I thought it was hard science. 1069 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,920 What did I do that was different from what anybody else can do? 1070 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,000 And the answer to that was the research. 1071 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,280 A scientific study changes the picture. 1072 00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:51,240 [Eugene Fine] Cancer's described as an immensely heterogeneous disease. 1073 00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:52,640 That's, in fact, a buzz-word 1074 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,640 that's now very much in the literature. 1075 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,160 If you have a primary tumor, 1076 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,160 this cell can have this mutation, 1077 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,440 and right next to it you can have a cell that has different mutations, 1078 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,840 and the cells in the metastasis have still different ones. 1079 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,680 So, what happens is, 1080 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,640 no matter how you target your cancer therapies, 1081 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,320 you're gonna end up catching some of the mutations, 1082 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,240 and then some of them are simply going to be mutations 1083 00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:14,120 you didn't hit with these particular therapies, 1084 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,600 and then those cells are gonna be the ones 1085 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,800 that survive and come back to get you. 1086 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,400 Most cancers are treated by cocktails 1087 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,800 of multiple drugs which fail. 1088 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,760 They also subject the patient to toxic side effects 1089 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,080 and poor quality of life while it's failing. 1090 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,960 But in some respects, the more heterogeneous the cancer gets, 1091 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,000 the more it tends to converge to a common metabolism: 1092 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,040 That cancer cells depend on glucose as a source of fuel. 1093 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,160 That then could lend itself 1094 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,680 to a metabolic approach which targets just that. 1095 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,920 I don't know that that's going to be the case in most cancers, 1096 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,640 but it still doesn't stop me from being optimistic 1097 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,480 about the idea of using diet as an adjunct 1098 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,960 to chemotherapies and other forms of therapies 1099 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,160 to improve the overall efficacy of treatment. 1100 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,320 [Jason Fung] So I can make anybody fat. 1101 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,440 Insulin causes weight gain. So for example, 1102 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,480 if I prescribe insulin to people, people gain weight. 1103 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,720 I could make you obese. I just have to give you enough insulin. 1104 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,720 If you think about what the major causes 1105 00:54:15,720 --> 00:54:17,200 of disease are 1106 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,360 in the 19th century and early 20th century, 1107 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,280 what was killing people was infections. 1108 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,520 Right? So people are dying of tuberculosis, 1109 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,280 people are dying of pneumonia. We developed penicillin. 1110 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,880 We developed all these great drugs, so people lived. 1111 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,560 The problem is that's not our situation now. 1112 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,960 So we've taken the same attitude of, "Here's a magic pill," 1113 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,280 and we've applied it to a dietary disease. 1114 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:38,680 That's insane! 1115 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,240 The multi-million dollar question is, 1116 00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:42,600 "Why is it happening?" I mean, it's not like 1117 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,640 we're deficient in pharmaceuticals, right? 1118 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,600 And we don't have a Toujeo deficit. 1119 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,240 Right now, it's really the perfect storm. 1120 00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:52,040 I mean, we're eating more processed food than ever before, 1121 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,440 our environment is toxic, 1122 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,560 and we're leading these incredibly stressful lives. 1123 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,640 I think a lot of diseases are really the same disease. 1124 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,840 so like obesity, type II diabetes, 1125 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,480 high blood pressure, heart disease-- 1126 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,840 it's all basically the same problem. 1127 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,320 [Jason] Type II diabetes is a dietary disease. 1128 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:10,800 It's the leading cause of blindness. 1129 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,520 It's the leading cause of amputations. 1130 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,960 It's the leading cause of kidney disease and dialysis. 1131 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,600 It's a leading contributor to cancer. 1132 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,280 It's a leading contributor to heart disease. 1133 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,560 So, practically 70% of what we practice 1134 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,200 in modern, western medicine 1135 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,440 is all related back to your diet. 1136 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,560 [Lierre Keith] What happens when you're eating these high-carb diets, 1137 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,080 of course, there's this constant flood of, first, sugar, 1138 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,360 and then insulin, 'cause your body is, like, freaking out. 1139 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,520 "Oh, it's too high. We're going to hit a coma point here. 1140 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:37,960 We've got to do something about this." 1141 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,880 So out comes the insulin. 1142 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,280 [Andreas] When you're constantly shouting with this insulin hormone, 1143 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,200 the receptors on the cell will downregulate. 1144 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,800 It's called insulin resistance. 1145 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,880 The body is not responding well to insulin. 1146 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,600 It's like if you're shouting really loudly, 1147 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,720 people are going to put their fingers into their ears. Right? 1148 00:55:55,720 --> 00:55:59,520 And if you shout really loudly every day for years, 1149 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,920 the cells get deaf. They don't hear it anymore. 1150 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,960 Your body has to excrete two times more, 1151 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,760 five times more, ten times more than normal 1152 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,520 to get the message across. 1153 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,160 And then you treat it by injecting even more insulin. 1154 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,720 And I think that's, you know, criminally insane. 1155 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:22,960 [Pati] When you start on the Lantus, 1156 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,840 which is the long-acting insulin, 1157 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,960 you start out at a certain number, 1158 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,560 and then you gradually increase it 1159 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,080 by like three to five units a night, 1160 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:32,600 based on what your sugars are. 1161 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,800 So I think I started out at 20-- 1162 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,840 this is four years ago-- 1163 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,600 and I was up to 55 in no time. 1164 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,040 When you look at diabetes, type II, 1165 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,800 it effects every single system in your body. 1166 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,240 So it's not just the insulin and the sugars. 1167 00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:54,640 You end up getting-- I have peripheral neuropathy 1168 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,440 where I've lost feeling in my feet. 1169 00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,080 I have gastroparesis. 1170 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,880 I have early kidney disease. 1171 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,240 I have-- um, what else? 1172 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,520 I have coronary artery disease. 1173 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,800 The arteries in my whole body are pretty much affected. 1174 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:18,240 This carotid artery is 99% occluded, 1175 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,520 meaning that I could have a stroke...at any time. 1176 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,280 -We had talked on Friday. -Yes. 1177 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,200 And so you decreased your insulin even more? 1178 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,520 Did you have any issues this weekend? 1179 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,400 -Where were your sugar levels? -[Pati] No. No, they were... 1180 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,480 They were all good. Last night's was 91. 1181 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:41,360 Since the two months that I've been doing this food program... 1182 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,840 -Two? -Yeah. It may just be six weeks that she has been here. 1183 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,920 ...I've lost 17 pounds. 1184 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,440 And within a month, we were able 1185 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,000 to decrease her insulin by half, even more. 1186 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,560 I don't have any more sliding-scale, regular short-acting. 1187 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,800 I have-- the long term is down 1188 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,800 from 50 units to 20 units a night... 1189 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,680 which, in the long-run, is going to save me 1190 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,560 a whole bunch of change. 1191 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,160 [Robert] If things keep going the way they are... 1192 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,680 Mm-hmm. The possibility is that 1193 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,760 she could cure her diabetes with food. 1194 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:16,280 Can you imagine? 1195 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:17,960 [crying] 1196 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,400 I was hopeless. 1197 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:26,400 I was just getting fatter and fatter, and sicker and sicker. 1198 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,720 I really was at the end of my story. 1199 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,760 If I could inspire one per-- one person... 1200 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,560 to stop and take a look 1201 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,640 at what's happening with their life-- 1202 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:43,600 if it's in regards to your weight, depression, diabetes-- 1203 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,680 understand that there's hope. 1204 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,120 [acoustic guitar playing] 1205 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,440 When they rounded up the tribes in this country 1206 00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,760 and put them on reservations, 1207 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,880 they were starving, and the U.S. government 1208 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,480 gave them commodity foods, 1209 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,680 consisted of white flour, sugar, and lard. 1210 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,640 What do you do with white flour, 1211 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,840 sugar and lard is... you make fry bread. 1212 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,440 It's our concentration camp food. 1213 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,000 [Nora] The fait accompli of what we call manifest destiny, 1214 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,560 what happened to all the aboriginal peoples 1215 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,480 of the Earth since European encroachment, 1216 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,160 wasn't accomplished with guns. 1217 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:32,920 It was accomplished with food. 1218 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:42,040 Damper has become number one food for Yolngu people. Heh. 1219 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,480 Settlers, missionaries, they gave us damper, 1220 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,600 and our grandfathers, grandmothers, 1221 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,160 and all families... 1222 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:52,640 They liked it. 1223 00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,280 That is looking yummy. 1224 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,160 [Kama] These modern, displacing foods 1225 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,920 were being brought in as rations by the missionaries. 1226 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:05,440 They're very addictive things like tobacco, sugar, and flour. 1227 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,880 You must have damper with a syrup or jam. 1228 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,280 -[Robert] It's required. Must be. [laughs] -Must be. Always. 1229 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,440 [Robert] But even if you took the syrup and the jam 1230 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,680 and all of that stuff off of the damper, it would still be-- 1231 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,200 -It would still be bad. -[Robert] Yuranydjil, it's still... 1232 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,480 Not good. Not good. 1233 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,520 Maize has become our staple food. 1234 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,000 It's called "pap" in South Africa. 1235 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,920 It's mostly prevalent in impoverished rural communities. 1236 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,440 In South Africa, that's mostly our black population. 1237 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,120 [Noakes] So when we talk about maize 1238 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,440 being the staple food in Southern Africa, 1239 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,680 we have to understand how it got there. 1240 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,120 It was a decision by the South African government 1241 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,680 to produce maize on an industrial scale. 1242 01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,520 And the question is, "Well, was that good for our people or not?" 1243 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,000 It's not indigenous. 1244 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,760 It was never indigenous to South Africa. 1245 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,600 All our maize is genetically modified, 1246 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,120 it's refined, it's high carb. 1247 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:12,520 You might as well be eating a bowl full of sugar. 1248 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,120 And dietitians, including the one 1249 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:16,600 who laid the complaint 1250 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,800 in the first place, are proponents. 1251 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,000 [Noakes] And I'll argue that it was the introduction of maize 1252 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,640 and making this the staple food which has been a problem for us. 1253 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,200 [Ajay Bhoopchand] Madame Chair. Objection. 1254 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,520 I really can't see how the details 1255 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,600 about something based on a conspiracy theory is relevant. 1256 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,120 [Ravin Ramdass] Madame Chair, in respect of the influence 1257 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,720 of industry driving the obesity epidemic. 1258 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,320 There were sponsors for ADSA. 1259 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:41,800 There were a number of sponsors, 1260 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,040 including Kellogg's, Pillsbury, et cetera. 1261 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:46,920 If you work with the flawed model 1262 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,800 of just energy-in and energy-out, 1263 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,040 you forget about how behaviors are modified, 1264 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,600 you forget about how addiction comes about, 1265 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:59,120 you forget about how advertising influences the whole epidemic. 1266 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,120 I am submitting that is irrelevant. 1267 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:03,640 The objection is overruled. 1268 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,520 [Ravin] Professor Noakes, you may proceed. 1269 01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,320 Thank you, Madam Chair. 1270 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,120 What I learned during the process is the key to this debate, 1271 01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,200 that industry completely controlled 1272 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:16,280 what the information coming out to the public was. 1273 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,400 And I exposed that in one chapter... 1274 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,560 [Rangan] These guys know what they're doing. 1275 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,600 It's not an accident-- I don't believe-- 1276 01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:26,520 that people are hooked on all this junk and processed garbage. 1277 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,520 The Global Energy Balance Network was a front for Coca-Cola. 1278 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,320 [Rangan] There's something bigger going on here. 1279 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,560 The whole food system needs changing. 1280 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:38,200 [Noakes] What Coca-Cola is doing is to control the messaging 1281 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,680 of obesity globally by controlling the scientists. 1282 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:45,840 One of the tactics that industry uses is they'll fund studies 1283 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,360 that are designed to confuse the record. 1284 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,880 [Noakes] Their goal was not to talk about obesity. 1285 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,440 Their goal was to confuse the public, in my opinion. 1286 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,360 [Nina] Almost all scientific conferences 1287 01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,400 depend on industry funding even to discuss a subject. 1288 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,760 There's no funding, nobody's interested. 1289 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,520 Nobody wants to even talk about it. 1290 01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,240 It's like depriving a field of oxygen. 1291 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,680 I've repeatedly been told that there's no evidence 1292 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:11,320 to support the low-carbohydrate diet. That's incorrect. 1293 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,560 This is a randomized control trial 1294 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,600 published in 2008 by Dr. Phinney. 1295 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,240 These are expensive trials, and there's no money to do it. 1296 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,840 He does not get funding from the National Institute of Health. 1297 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,120 He has to go and raise this money himself. 1298 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:25,840 This is the evidence. 1299 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,760 He's putting people with a metabolic syndrome-- 1300 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,600 half of them on a high-carbohydrate, low-fat diet, 1301 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,400 and the other group on a high-fat ketogenic diet. 1302 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:35,920 Look at the results. 1303 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,640 Body mass and abdominal fat: 1304 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:41,360 high fat outperforms high-carbohydrate, low-fat diet. 1305 01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,400 Triglycerides-- one of the key markers 1306 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:47,200 of metabolic syndrome-- down 50% on the high-fat diet. 1307 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,960 [Kate] We tend to over-consume carbohydrate in this country 1308 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:51,640 because it's addicting, 1309 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,680 but also because we produce it in ridiculous amounts. 1310 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,320 If you fly from New York to L.A., 1311 01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,200 the majority of what you're flying over-- 1312 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,320 all those little circles and squares on the ground-- 1313 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,600 that's America pumping out carbohydrate as fast as it can. 1314 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,200 That's the 30,000 foot view, that's what's happening, 1315 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,520 and that's reflected in our grocery stores. 1316 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,880 Now here's the HDLC, which we are all taught is the "good cholesterol." 1317 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,720 What we're not told is when you eat a high-carbohydrate diet, 1318 01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,480 your good cholesterol comes down. 1319 01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,000 And you go on a high-fat diet, HDL cholesterol goes up! 1320 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,680 [Nora] There isn't a single multinational corporation on planet Earth 1321 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,480 that wouldn't stand to profit from every man, 1322 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,440 woman, and child consuming a carbohydrate-based diet. 1323 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,360 The very particles that are damaging our arteries 1324 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,680 are increased on a high-carbohydrate diet 1325 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,520 and reduced on a high-fat diet. 1326 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,200 It's incredibly cheap to produce. 1327 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:39,480 It's highly profitable, 1328 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,280 and it keeps you perpetually hungry. 1329 01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:42,840 What could be more perfect? 1330 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,240 [Noakes laughs] Now, this is even more remarkable. 1331 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,240 Saturated fatty acids in the bloodstream 1332 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,000 which greater your risk of heart attack. 1333 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,880 Now you eat more saturated fat, 1334 01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,240 and the saturated fatty acids in the bloodstream go down. 1335 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,280 [Nora] Pharmaceutical companies are profiting from this. 1336 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,360 Weight-loss industry's profiting from this. 1337 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,120 Undertakers are making out like bandits. 1338 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:01,680 About the only people that aren't profiting 1339 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,640 from all of this are-- are the rest of us. 1340 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,800 [Barry] All right, this is what it looks like 1341 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,680 when a yuppie tries to approach a couple of cows on a farm. 1342 01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:16,920 The biggest drawback was the budget, 1343 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,000 because it's very expensive to eat healthy. 1344 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,040 One of the ideas we threw against the wall, 1345 01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:22,840 and it actually stuck was that we were going to buy 1346 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,760 a grass-fed cow. A whole cow. 1347 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,480 Emma, why don't you go with Mom-mom to pet the cows? 1348 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,400 We saved over $400. 1349 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,320 [Nora] For tens of millions of years, 1350 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,480 long before we ever came along, 1351 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:38,280 grasslands and ruminants co-evolved. 1352 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,480 Cattle are basically designed to eat one thing and one thing only, 1353 01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,560 fresh green grass. 1354 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:47,480 Check it out! Yeah, buddy! Grass-fed meat. 1355 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,480 [Debbie] I've got hamburger. I've got T-bone steaks, 1356 01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,320 porterhouse steaks. I've got liver. 1357 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,880 I didn't like it as a kid, but I thought, 1358 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,200 "It came with the cow, so I'm gonna see what we can do with it." 1359 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:00,760 The butcher, he's like, 1360 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,400 "Oh, you got bones for your dog, huh?" 1361 01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,480 [laughs] We're like, "No, they're for us." Like-- 1362 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,680 [Nora] We used to have 40 more species of large herbivores 1363 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,640 roaming across North America 1364 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,720 before the end of the last ice age, 1365 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,760 and we had 60 million bison 1366 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,400 thundering across the Great Plains. 1367 01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,520 Today we have 60 million cattle 1368 01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:26,520 that are populating feedlots. 1369 01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,960 You know, grain feeding of animals. 1370 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,280 [cows mooing] 1371 01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:38,800 And what do grains do to cattle? 1372 01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,560 They fatten them up. 1373 01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,960 We could take a hint from that. 1374 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,040 Roughly 97% of all the meat produced today 1375 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,280 is produced in these feedlots. 1376 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,040 -[women] For the animals! -[men] Go vegan! 1377 01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:53,880 -[women] For health! -[men] Go vegan! 1378 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:57,320 [Nora] And where we hear passionate vegetarians and vegans 1379 01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,040 and animal rights advocates 1380 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,520 screaming about how we raise animals for food, 1381 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,200 I'm standing right there with them. 1382 01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:07,120 It's wrong. It's unsustainable, and it has to stop. 1383 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,120 But there's also misinformation 1384 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:13,960 and misunderstanding being promoted 1385 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,880 by genuinely well-meaning people. 1386 01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,080 What people don't understand 1387 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,520 is that everything really hinges on restoring natural systems. 1388 01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,080 [Robert] Do you see that happening in the United-- 1389 01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,520 Like, can we reclaim our Midwestern prairies again? Is that possible? 1390 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,080 It depends on how successful this documentary is. Right? 1391 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,160 [Robert] You were-- You used-- You were a vegetarian. 1392 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,400 Oh no. I was a vegan. I was never a vegetarian. 1393 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,760 I went from standard American diet, vegan. 1394 01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,600 I think when I started as a teenager, 1395 01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,680 I had very good impulses about the world that I wanted 1396 01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:57,120 and the...ethical base that I wanted to form 1397 01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,520 the actions that were my life, that were going to be my life. 1398 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:03,440 That hasn't changed. So justice, and compassion, 1399 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,720 and anything that questions human hubris 1400 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:07,000 or human entitlement-- 1401 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,480 those are the only values 1402 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,400 that are gonna get us to the world that we need. 1403 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,000 The problem is information, 1404 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,960 and with a different collection of facts, 1405 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,880 a different set of information, 1406 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,920 I might have made a very different decision. 1407 01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:20,800 If you want to reduce your carbon footprint, 1408 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,040 one of the best things you can do is eat locally, 1409 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:24,960 grow your own food in your own backyard. 1410 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,120 So I took this up with a fervor. 1411 01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:31,280 I really wanted to do all this, so I made a garden happen. 1412 01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,760 And pretty immediately hit the wall of... 1413 01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,400 what do plants eat? 1414 01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,680 We're used to thinking of plants as sort of insensate salads. 1415 01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:42,800 They actually have needs. 1416 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,520 Well, I'm going to get the organic whatever, 1417 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,480 and I go to the farm store, and I'm looking around, 1418 01:08:46,480 --> 01:08:48,360 and every single thing that's an amendment 1419 01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,080 that is for fruit like strawberries, 1420 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:51,960 it's bone meal and blood meal. 1421 01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,160 Well, where do I think minerals come from? 1422 01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,080 Well, I don't know! I've never done this before, 1423 01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:57,480 and I'm horrified! 1424 01:08:57,480 --> 01:08:59,040 I mean, I don't even want to smell it. 1425 01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,120 I don't want to touch it. It feels so unclean. 1426 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,320 [Robert] And where does this bone meal and blood meal come from? 1427 01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,600 I comes from, you know-- from animals. [laughs] 1428 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,520 He's like, "Where"-- it doesn't fall out of the sky. 1429 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,440 I know this is about dead animals! 1430 01:09:09,440 --> 01:09:11,800 It's horrifying to me. What do I do? 1431 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:13,600 I have to supply what the soil needs, 1432 01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,360 and what the soil wants is dead plants and dead animals, 1433 01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,720 and I can't take animals out of that equation. 1434 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,040 I mean, it's absolute hubris to think we can. 1435 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,120 That's what soil is. That's how it evolved. 1436 01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:26,960 That's a thriving, living community. 1437 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,920 There are insects, and they want to eat strawberries, too. 1438 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,720 So either I'm going to kill them 1439 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:33,840 or I'm going to get some creatures that will do it for me. 1440 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,880 And I went ahead and got chickens and ducks. 1441 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,000 [quacking] 1442 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,160 Again, this was this just tremendous moment 1443 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,720 of ethical and moral meltdown. 1444 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,680 So now I'm enslaving these chickens and ducks 1445 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,720 to do this terrible thing for me, which is kill. 1446 01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,600 You've never seen anything like a duck eat a slug. 1447 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,120 You want to see happiness? 1448 01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,120 "This is what I live for," was what my duck said, 1449 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,880 and, boy, was she a happy little creature. The chickens as well. 1450 01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,440 So they ate all the bugs for me, and I never saw another slug. 1451 01:09:58,440 --> 01:10:00,800 Animals tell us what they want. 1452 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,920 You know, if you just let them do what their nature 1453 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,880 is to do, then they're... 1454 01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:07,320 It's not even that they are happy, 1455 01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:08,960 it's that they are who they should be. 1456 01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,200 The most destructive thing we've done 1457 01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,360 is this activity called agriculture. 1458 01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,360 We don't really have a clue what goes into making 1459 01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,440 that corn or making that soy. 1460 01:10:20,440 --> 01:10:23,120 All we know is that you look down on your plate, 1461 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,840 and it doesn't look like a dead thing, 1462 01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,520 therefore, heh, 1463 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,640 it somehow must be peaceful, and kind, and sustainable. 1464 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,840 And we're utterly wrong about this. 1465 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,760 You take a piece of land 1466 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,960 and you clear every living thing off it, 1467 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,560 and I'm including the bacteria in that. 1468 01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,200 So all the plants and animals that are supposed 1469 01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,240 to live there, they're gone. 1470 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,400 Now you're going to grow an acre of corn or wheat. 1471 01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:56,040 That corn is going to require things that are not there for it, 1472 01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,720 and you're going to have to come from the outside and apply them. 1473 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:01,960 It's going to take a lot of fertilizer, 1474 01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:03,760 insecticides, and fungicides, 1475 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,640 'cause you're fighting a war. Right? 1476 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,240 All those other plants 1477 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:10,320 and all those other little animals want to come back. 1478 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,920 Now another thing that happens is every time you plant that corn, 1479 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,560 you're destroying that soil. A prairie or a grassland, 1480 01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,080 it's the perennial roots that make channels for the rain. 1481 01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,800 When you only have annuals, they don't live a long time, 1482 01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,880 so they don't have time to build long roots, 1483 01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,440 so year-by-year, you are drawing down that soil. 1484 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,240 And then of course, all that soil washes off. 1485 01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:31,880 If you're on any kind of a slope, 1486 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:33,680 it all is just going to go into the local river, 1487 01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:37,160 and kill it with all that dirt, so now there's no fish either. 1488 01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,640 In the meantime though, while the corn is still growing, 1489 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,200 you can transport it to a miserable cow 1490 01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,480 living on a cement floor inside a steel building... 1491 01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,000 and feed that cow for about 60 days. 1492 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:54,960 Past that point, she will die from the corn 1493 01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:56,800 because it's not her natural diet. 1494 01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,440 But until that point, 1495 01:11:58,440 --> 01:12:00,280 she will get really fat, really fast. 1496 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,320 And then slaughter her, feed her to humans, 1497 01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,320 so you're going to make people sick eating this meat as well. 1498 01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,440 As far as I can tell, this is nothing but death and destruction 1499 01:12:09,440 --> 01:12:12,120 from the very beginning to the very end of this. 1500 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,720 Now I'm going to walk you through another scenario, which is 1501 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,360 you take the same acre of land, 1502 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,160 but you don't hurt it in any way. 1503 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,880 You let it have its own wisdom, 1504 01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:26,120 its own impulse toward life, its own wild way. 1505 01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:31,800 And what you have is a whole bunch of perennial plants growing there. 1506 01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,720 You have a whole bunch of really sturdy grasses. 1507 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:36,840 You've got big birds, and you've got ground-dwelling birds. 1508 01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,600 And then you've got small mammals and larger mammals. 1509 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,120 You might even have, every once in a while, 1510 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:42,680 a really big mammal come across there. 1511 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,760 You might have a wolf, a bear, or somebody. 1512 01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:46,600 And in the meantime, you've got a ruminant. 1513 01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,320 [moos] 1514 01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,200 So you've produced the same amount of food for people. 1515 01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,320 You've got the one ruminant at the end. 1516 01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,720 You slaughter her, and now people can eat, 1517 01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:02,360 but that acre that is still in that prairie, that grassland, 1518 01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,320 you could come back in 10,000 years 1519 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,200 and all of that life would still be there. 1520 01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,240 The only thing different would be a little more soil, 1521 01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,640 which is to say a little more resilience, a little more depth to life. 1522 01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:15,000 And that is how we lived for 2.5 million years 1523 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,440 as humans on this planet, participating in that cycle. 1524 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,840 [Joe Salatin] We're here in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia, 1525 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,720 and what we do is pasture livestock. 1526 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,640 [moos] 1527 01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,320 In nature, herbivores live 1528 01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,160 in large groups and they migrate. 1529 01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:41,600 All we're doing is duplicating that kind of migration, 1530 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:45,920 moving the animals across the land, 1531 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,800 so that this choreography, 1532 01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:49,680 this ballet of the pasture 1533 01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:52,680 can perform its dance on the grass. 1534 01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:56,200 When people say eating this way is unsustainable? 1535 01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,760 Oh. Listen, it's not only sustainable, 1536 01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,000 it's actually what we call regenerative. 1537 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:06,760 It allows the grass, then, time to regrow, to recuperate. 1538 01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:11,120 Grass is essentially 95% sunshine. 1539 01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,040 This takes sunbeams 1540 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,640 and converts it into something that has weight. 1541 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:19,120 And amazingly, the herbivore can take this, 1542 01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,000 ferment it in her rumen, 1543 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,800 and turn this into, arguably, 1544 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,480 the most nutrient-dense food in the world. 1545 01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:30,720 Grass grows in what I call an S-curve. 1546 01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:31,800 If you can see that 'S'. 1547 01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,640 So diaper down here, 1548 01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:35,520 teenage, rapid growth, 1549 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,480 and then nursing home out here. 1550 01:14:37,480 --> 01:14:39,800 What we want to do is keep this forage 1551 01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,840 in this rapid-growth state as much as possible. 1552 01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,880 So the role of the herbivore in nature 1553 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,480 is actually to prune the grass 1554 01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:52,480 to restart that rapid metabolic capacity. 1555 01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:57,160 This is what builds soil, hydrates the landscape, 1556 01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:01,840 and actually sequesters carbon. This is the system. 1557 01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,600 When grass is allowed 1558 01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,960 to be as productive as its supposed to be, 1559 01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,640 it actually is far more efficient 1560 01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:12,160 at converting solar energy into biomass than even trees. 1561 01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:14,240 That's why all the rich, deep soils 1562 01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,880 of the planet are under prairies with herbivores. 1563 01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,760 And if every farm in the world would do this, 1564 01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,080 we would sequester all the carbon 1565 01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:23,680 that's been emitted since the beginning 1566 01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,480 of the Industrial Age in fewer than 10 years. 1567 01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,520 [Joel] When a confinement animal facility 1568 01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,120 shows a picture of this hog factory 1569 01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,360 or chicken factory or whatever, 1570 01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,240 they're not showing all the land that's required 1571 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:39,800 to grow the grain to keep it going 1572 01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:41,280 and all the land that's required 1573 01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,080 to handle all the manure that it's generating. 1574 01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,560 In this system, you're seeing all that land. 1575 01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,240 I think a lot of industrial agriculture thinking 1576 01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:00,240 is that the earth is a reluctant lover. 1577 01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,240 Whereas, actually, we view the earth 1578 01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,080 as an abundant, loving partner 1579 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,520 who responds to caress, 1580 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,640 who responds to care, 1581 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,280 and if we will come humbly to the land, 1582 01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,960 why, it's ready to give us 1583 01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,320 way more than we could have wrestled from it. 1584 01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:23,240 -[honking] -This is the mystical, awesome cycle of life, 1585 01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,280 and to be able to be this close to it 1586 01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:30,400 has a humility to it, a perspective... 1587 01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,360 that is actually quite profound, 1588 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,080 and actually quite historically normal. 1589 01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:47,640 [people chattering] 1590 01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:49,400 [Barry] Really for the past few years, 1591 01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,320 every time I've spent time with my mom... 1592 01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:57,640 just her cognition reminded me of my grandmom. 1593 01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,040 It was starting to remind me 1594 01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,240 of those early stages of my grandmom. 1595 01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,280 [Debbie] My son just told me not too long ago, 1596 01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:05,920 he said, "I love you, 1597 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,640 "and I'm really becoming concerned with you. 1598 01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:12,160 "You're starting to check out of life. 1599 01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,680 "I see you starting to deteriorate 1600 01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,800 the same way that she did. That scares me." 1601 01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,640 I used to get these horrible headaches. 1602 01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:27,000 I was battling depression. I would just start to cry. 1603 01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:31,240 I would tell my husband, I said, "I'm tired of this. 1604 01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:34,400 I'm just tired of feeling like this." 1605 01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,920 Since we started eating clean like this, 1606 01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,040 I have not had-- and I kid you not-- 1607 01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,600 I have not had one of those headaches. Not one. 1608 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,600 My energy level, my thought processing-- 1609 01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:59,720 I mean, I've seen remarkable changes. 1610 01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:03,160 Oh, whoa, whoa! 1611 01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:07,200 You know, until you've been there in that dark place, 1612 01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:11,280 you can't really grasp the magnitude of it. 1613 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,840 I have been there, and I have lived that. 1614 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:15,880 It's like a vicious cycle, you know? 1615 01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:19,480 And this is, heh, this is just so much better. 1616 01:18:19,480 --> 01:18:21,440 Does it taste like a strawberry? 1617 01:18:21,440 --> 01:18:23,880 Was it good? Yeah? 1618 01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,720 [Barry] To sit down and have a conversation with my mom, 1619 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:30,120 and she's clear-headed, like, for the first time in years. 1620 01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,400 You gotta squirt water down into the hole. 1621 01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,760 [Barry] I feel like I've got my mom back. 1622 01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,880 [Debbie] I can't wait to see in six months from now 1623 01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,880 what other changes could there possibly be? 1624 01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:45,560 The good news is-- something that I never thought 1625 01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,600 I would never hear myself say-- 1626 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,120 that I am completely off all insulin. 1627 01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,840 -Oh. Pati! Congratulations! -Yeah. Thank you. 1628 01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,480 -That's incredible! -I'll take a high five. Yeah. 1629 01:18:55,480 --> 01:18:57,800 And your blood sugars have been completely fine? 1630 01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:59,320 It's been 10 days. 1631 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,200 -Heh. Are you kidding? -But who's counting? 1632 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,480 [Robert] How much weight have you lost entirely? 1633 01:19:03,480 --> 01:19:04,920 Forty-five pounds so far. 1634 01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,480 -That's so exciting. -Forty-five! 1635 01:19:07,480 --> 01:19:09,000 I think that's three dress sizes. 1636 01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,760 I'm halfway. I would like to lose 90, so. 1637 01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:13,560 [Robert] I find that so fascinating, 1638 01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,600 that the first lines of defense are always like, 1639 01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,920 "Take this pill, take that pill, that medication." 1640 01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,480 And like, oh, you're at the end of your rope, 1641 01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:22,840 and it's like, "Maybe you should try changing what you eat." 1642 01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:27,120 Pati: I think I always knew that, but I don't think I knew how. 1643 01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:30,160 As much medical knowledge as I have, even nursing-- 1644 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,960 I don't think they teach you enough about nutrition. 1645 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,080 I mean, that kind of makes me a little bit embarrassed to say, 1646 01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:38,920 -but it's been a whole, big lot of reflection. -Good. 1647 01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:40,840 [Pati] A whole new world opened up. 1648 01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,240 I think that's what was amazing to me. I mean, I just... 1649 01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,520 [Robert] Yeah. Anyway, 1650 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:49,560 -I think that's good enough, so thank you for that. -I'm happy. Thank you. 1651 01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:51,880 [Robert] There's something implicit in all of this 1652 01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,720 that no one seems to be saying. 1653 01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:58,160 The human body is a vastly complex system, 1654 01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:02,280 but how we fuel it is really simple. 1655 01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,560 If we fuel our bodies correctly, 1656 01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:08,320 then the complexity should just take care of itself. 1657 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,080 So metabolically speaking, 1658 01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:11,720 there are really only two fuels we can use. 1659 01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,880 They are sugars and carbohydrates, which is glucose, 1660 01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,960 and fat, which is ketone bodies. 1661 01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:19,400 If we go with the notion 1662 01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:22,600 that fat is the fuel that nature has intended, 1663 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:26,680 then suddenly all the dominoes just fall into place. 1664 01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,520 [Noakes] The final part of the jigsaw. 1665 01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:38,000 We spend millions of rands training hypertension experts, 1666 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,040 obesity experts, diabetes experts, 1667 01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:41,920 heart disease experts, 1668 01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:45,000 but they're all treating the same condition. 1669 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,120 We can continue to teach a failed model. 1670 01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:51,800 We can continue to train more doctors, and build more hospitals, 1671 01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,560 and tell people they must eat lots of carbohydrate-- 1672 01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,600 a model that is causing millions of South Africans 1673 01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,960 every few years to develop type II diabetes. 1674 01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,320 Or we can say, "Maybe we got it wrong." 1675 01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,920 Because the only people who are suffering, 1676 01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,960 besides myself and my wife, 1677 01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,240 are the people of South Africa. 1678 01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:15,920 Professor Noakes, on the charge 1679 01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,440 of unprofessional conduct, 1680 01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:19,280 the majority of this committee 1681 01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,040 find you not guilty. 1682 01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,800 [cheers, applause] 1683 01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:36,720 [Michelle] ♪ You've got to let it go ♪ 1684 01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:40,600 ♪ And watch it grow ♪ 1685 01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:42,920 ♪ 'Cause it takes every voice ♪ 1686 01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,400 ♪ To make this world a home... ♪ 1687 01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,760 [Michelle] It's been about five months since I started eating this way. 1688 01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,440 My clothes fit better, my skin is clearer, 1689 01:21:51,440 --> 01:21:53,720 my voice is clearer, my mind is clearer. 1690 01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:56,480 -[women chatter] -This, this is all about the freedom you want. 1691 01:21:56,480 --> 01:21:58,720 I was having ongoing respiratory infections 1692 01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:00,280 most of my life. 1693 01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:03,000 That has-- I haven't had a single thing. 1694 01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:04,920 No antibiotics whatsoever. 1695 01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,160 No antibiotics. Haven't needed it. 1696 01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,400 I haven't used my inhaler 1697 01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,360 for about three months for any reason whatsoever. 1698 01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:18,120 -[Natalie] I think this is cool. -[Michelle] I did not expect my lungs to clear out. 1699 01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:19,960 -[Lisa] But to actually sit down and talk about-- -Yeah. 1700 01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:21,520 No more inhaler. 1701 01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:26,280 ♪ From the first until the last, connected... ♪ 1702 01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,680 Our bodies are perfect. 1703 01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:30,840 ♪ Directed we fly... ♪ 1704 01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,040 If you don't actually take a moment 1705 01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:36,600 to just revere the way nature works-- 1706 01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:40,040 just truly look at it, at how perfect it is-- 1707 01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:41,840 you're in for trouble. 1708 01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:46,080 ♪ 'Cause if you listen to the voice within ♪ 1709 01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:49,640 ♪ A melody will soon begin ♪ 1710 01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:57,080 ♪ And you'll feel the vibration in your soul, ooh! ♪ 1711 01:22:57,080 --> 01:23:00,160 [people singing] 1712 01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:17,200 This is my blanket and my sheets that I born with. 1713 01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:23,560 My mom used to always make me warm with this, like this. 1714 01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,360 [Robert] A week ago you were talking to me and you weren't-- 1715 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,080 your body was not in a pleasant place for you. 1716 01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:35,920 [Yuranydjil] No, not yet. 1717 01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,600 The second week, I went out on that walk 1718 01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,560 and I started singing away as I was walking, 1719 01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,160 and I was so happy! 1720 01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:49,920 -[music playing] -[singing, cheering] 1721 01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:53,640 [Yuranydjil] My body was rejoicing. 1722 01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,320 -[Robert] Rejoicing? -[speaks Yolngu Matha] 1723 01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:58,360 And I felt this is the first time 1724 01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:01,560 that I have ever felt flexibility, 1725 01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,600 the refreshment inside. 1726 01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:10,120 From this time on, I'm going to look after my body. 1727 01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,800 -[Robert] How's the asthma? -[Yuranydjil] No. It's been-- 1728 01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,720 I haven't been worrying about it anymore. 1729 01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,400 It's-- I think it's gone. 1730 01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,040 Mmm. 1731 01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:22,320 [Kama] You look at the problem of indigenous health 1732 01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:25,520 and it just seems like this massive epidemic 1733 01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:27,640 that's just so huge and impossible, 1734 01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:29,600 and how can you find a pathway through it? 1735 01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,000 So many resources are being poured into it, 1736 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,080 and I think so many Australians are frustrated 1737 01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,280 about how many resources are being poured into it, 1738 01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:37,720 we're not seeing any results, 1739 01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:39,600 and it feels like this hopeless solution. 1740 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,720 And then its crazy when you can get people 1741 01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:43,720 in a situation where you can change what they're eating 1742 01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,000 just for a few days, and you can already see 1743 01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,560 these incredible improvements 1744 01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,360 in their wellbeing, in their blood pressures, 1745 01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,720 in their blood sugar levels. And you think, 1746 01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,440 -"How can it be this simple?" -[Robert] It can't be this simple. 1747 01:24:55,440 --> 01:24:58,040 It can't be this simple, but it's happening. 1748 01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:04,720 [woman] Look at that. Everywhere. 1749 01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:09,520 [Yuranydjil] Learning all of this... 1750 01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:11,640 [sighs] so nice. 1751 01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:16,760 Human anatomy. 1752 01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:18,480 All these blood cells, 1753 01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:21,400 all these cells that make up our body, 1754 01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,640 so perfectly woven together. 1755 01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:28,200 So beautiful. 1756 01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,440 [chattering] 1757 01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:00,000 You touch your nose. Touch your nose. 1758 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:01,400 Boop! 1759 01:26:03,480 --> 01:26:06,440 Boop! One more time. She's pulling her hand. 1760 01:26:06,440 --> 01:26:09,080 Boop! That's it! That's your nose! 1761 01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:11,520 One more time. Ready? 1762 01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:17,440 Boop! Abigail, where's my nose? 1763 01:26:17,440 --> 01:26:20,320 -There. -There! [laughs] 1764 01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:22,480 Silly. Nose. 1765 01:26:22,480 --> 01:26:24,440 [Barry] It's almost like her brain has had 1766 01:26:24,440 --> 01:26:26,480 this certain way of functioning, 1767 01:26:26,480 --> 01:26:28,880 like biologically, it's functioned as a brain 1768 01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:30,840 of a person with autism 1769 01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,400 until we started to give her the nutrients 1770 01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,240 that her body and her brain needs 1771 01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:36,920 to start functioning normally. 1772 01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:41,200 [Robert] Can I have the block? Can you give it to me? 1773 01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,080 -[Barry laughs] Good job! -Thank you! 1774 01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,880 Oh, my gosh! I never saw her do that. 1775 01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:47,200 [Robert] Give the block to Daddy. 1776 01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:48,560 Daddy. 1777 01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:50,040 Come on, you silly. 1778 01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:53,360 -[Robert] Yes! Yay! -[clapping] 1779 01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:56,320 Now give the blocks to Mommy. 1780 01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:58,680 -To Mommy. Give the blocks to Mommy. -Mommy. 1781 01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:01,480 -[Barry] Good job! There you go. -[Robert] Yes. Thank you. 1782 01:27:01,480 --> 01:27:04,480 [Barry] But at this point she's like six years behind, 1783 01:27:04,480 --> 01:27:07,400 so she's starting at the level of a two-year-old, 1784 01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:10,960 or whatever developmental level that Abigail's at. 1785 01:27:15,480 --> 01:27:17,120 [Lauren] I got her a bunch of summer clothes 1786 01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:18,880 in April 'cause it was her birthday. 1787 01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,520 It's probably not until July I started putting 'em on her, 1788 01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:22,880 and they were all too big. 1789 01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,280 They were all a size too big for her. 1790 01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:28,320 [Robert] She looks amazing. 1791 01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,680 [Barry] It's such an easy recipe. I've got it memorized. 1792 01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:34,600 It's four eggs, half a cup of almond butter, and a cup of squash. 1793 01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,560 -[Robert] So no grains? -No grains. 1794 01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:39,520 And I always melt some ghee 1795 01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,280 over the top of the pancakes so she gets some fat. 1796 01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:45,440 There's a child trapped in this body 1797 01:27:45,440 --> 01:27:49,440 that, that is, you know, crying out to be released. 1798 01:27:49,440 --> 01:27:51,440 Hey! Heh. Hey! 1799 01:27:51,440 --> 01:27:53,560 And it's like she's waking up. 1800 01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:55,160 [Robert laughs] Yeah. 1801 01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:03,000 [acoustic guitar playing] 1802 01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:22,280 ♪ I know a carpenter, I know a laborer ♪ 1803 01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:27,080 ♪ He is my teacher, he is my brother ♪ 1804 01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:31,720 ♪ I have a neighbor, he is my savior ♪ 1805 01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:36,360 ♪ He doesn't waver, he's a strong believer ♪ 1806 01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:41,240 ♪ I know a farmer, I know his vision ♪ 1807 01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:45,680 ♪ I know his struggle, I know his hope ♪ 1808 01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:48,080 ♪ They are all archetypes ♪ 1809 01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:51,600 ♪ People that I might like to be ♪ 1810 01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:55,280 ♪ Just like in a completely different way ♪ 1811 01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:59,840 ♪ And we all, all ♪ 1812 01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,720 ♪ We're coming out of our caves ♪ 1813 01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:04,800 ♪ Coming out of our caves ♪ 1814 01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:08,840 ♪ Yes, we all, all... ♪ 1815 01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:11,840 ♪ Catch a swell, catch a wave ♪ 1816 01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:14,720 ♪ To another inspiring place ♪ 1817 01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:18,880 ♪ We all, all ♪ 1818 01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,440 ♪ Coming out of our caves ♪ 1819 01:29:21,440 --> 01:29:23,480 ♪ Coming out of our caves ♪ 1820 01:29:23,480 --> 01:29:28,560 ♪ Yes, we all, all ♪ 1821 01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:30,920 ♪ We're coming out of our caves ♪ 1822 01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,040 ♪ Coming out of our caves ♪ 1823 01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:37,800 ♪ Ah, hey, yeah ♪ 1824 01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:44,600 ♪ So yeah, hey, yeah ♪ 1825 01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:47,120 [vocalizing] 1826 01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:54,880 ♪ Yeah! Out of our caves ♪ 141650

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