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I think
we've got a lot to do.
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It's funny though,
being here in London.
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In a couple of weeks
we'll be back
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in this glorious, cold city,
having done all this stuff.
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- Yeah.
- It's gonna be kind of weird.
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Yeah.
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Looking back, it'll be a very
dense chapter of our lives.
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Exactly.
It's gonna be chaotic.
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And probably
there'll be too much people.
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At least, the one thing
I take confidence in
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is everybody is so chilled out
that is coming on this trip,
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it's like there's no wild card
person that is going to...
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Except Winston.
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Fine.
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We're gonna crack on.
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How are you doing,
are you all right?
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We've always been
a collaborative band.
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We were four guys in other
bands, when we started out.
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It feels like a third date now.
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It's a deeply
collaborative world
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and the sort of experiments
like this one
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are realty what it's all about.
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ls everyone here
from Cape Town?
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I love playing
with people.
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It's fucking awesome.
It makes you better, you know?
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We should, in theory, be able
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to lay down our egos and try
and make something good.
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Having two days
to record some songs
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is a massive challenge.
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There's something about
travelling and being in places
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that you aren't from
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that keeps you kind of humbled,
in some way.
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We love getting
people up on stage,
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sharing those moments...
And we've done it.
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Every step along the way.
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That's just
the nature of a tour.
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It's kind of the fun of it.
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Travelling together
and doing shows together.
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That always serves to deepen
friendships and connections.
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We take a lot of pride
in our shows
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and also in the way they're set
up, the places that they're in.
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This first song is about
what we were back in 1998.
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Yea-eah!
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The road, it never realty
gets boring for us.
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For this band is, like,
it is our home, really.
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It's where we make sense
of everything that we do.
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A little police escort, eh?
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Is that the police or just
one of the traffic wardens?
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I spoke to a radio DJ
in Cape Town.
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He was like, "You've got
to come and do a show."
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Winston went out there,
came back
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and he wrote the longest email
I've ever seen him write.
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And said,
"Let's definitely do it."
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I think we get
terrified at the idea
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of doing the same thing
again and again,
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and trying new things
has always been...
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You know,
it's how we started as a band.
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We booked the tour,
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and felt like we wanted to do
something special around it,
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rather than just
go there and play
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as big a show as we could.
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I think to come away
with a good couple of songs,
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written and performed
to some extent,
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would be amazing.
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I've never been to South Africa,
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so I don't quite know
what to expect, really.
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It all sort of came
together quite naturally,
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in that we had friends in The
Very Best, Johan and those guys
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who we'd done shows with before.
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They introduced us
to Baaba Maal and Mamadou.
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We got along really well,
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so from that,
as a sort of first meeting,
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I think we realised we were on
a similar page straightaway.
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We met the Beatenberg guys
cos we asked them to come out
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and play at the stop-over
we did in Aviemore, in Scotland.
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We were fans of theirs
from afar.
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They're proper musicians.
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It's a weird mixture of people
going to South Africa cos...
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Johan's Swedish,
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Beatenberg's South African,
you know.
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Baaba is Senegalese.
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It's kind of a weird group.
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Everyone really just
wants to play music
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and see other people
play music well.
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No one came in as a star.
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No one came in with any kind
of real "primadonna"stuff
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We just wanted
to play music together.
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So even if he's right,
just ignore him.
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Even if he's like, "Yeah..."
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It's all about learning,
it's about a journey.
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We're driving into the mind
of every one of us.
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And we drive
into their environment,
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into their musical experiences.
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We come from different parts
of the world.
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We know different things and
we have to bring it together.
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Even though in effect
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we are ail strangers
just coming together,
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to make music
and go on tour,
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we'd still have
a shared experience
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in that we all still have a job
to play live for a crowd.
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And in that way we have
something in common,
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immediately.
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So, we show up
to the Cape Town gig, first day
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and everyone's aware that they
have to play a gig that night.
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That gives everything a purpose
and that sense of purpose helps
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to galvanise a group of people,
I think.
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Their music
is full of harmonies,
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it is full of joy, it is full
of lessons of life, you know?
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This is what you know
from music in Africa.
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It's not just the rhythm.
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It's not just the show,
the entertainment.
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It's also the melodies,
it's also the harmonies.
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And, on the top of that,
all the messages of love
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and respect,
and coming together.
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I can't ask more than that.
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So, we've been doing
this song "Lampenda"
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off Baaba's album.
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We're trying desperately
just to do it justice,
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and to do a good version of
the song, and Johan produced it.
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Obviously, it's Baaba's track,
so, the pressure is really on us
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to deliver in that environment.
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Actually, it was probably a good
way to start the collaboration
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because it put
everybody on their toes.
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Because it was
such a hard song to play live.
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Those guys are
such great musicians
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and so musically bright.
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They've, like,
so studied music so much.
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You're coming in earlier
than it is on the record.
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On the record
you leave a bigger gap.
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We very rarely talk about
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how many bars
and what chord goes where.
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Whenever we're making music,
that's not...
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It's funny. It's almost
making us be more like that.
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I think when we come to actually
writing music together,
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it'll all feel
a lot more natural,
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cos we’ll be starting
at the same point, essentially.
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Let's hear it from the top.
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See if we can all lock in,
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cos I think everybody's still
a little bit confused, I think.
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No shit!
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One, two, three, four.
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OK.
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Whenever you come in.
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I remember just
looking at Baaba
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whilst we were massacring
his song.
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We were kind of..
kept on screwing up.
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I think that was
a really good song
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introducing ail of us
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into the way that we were
trying to cross over
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different hybrid forms of music.
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We all thought we were telling
each other how it went.
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And I was like,
"No, this is how it goes, "
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and then it'd be wrong
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and Marcus would be like,
"No, this is it."
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And it would be
a different sort of wrong.
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Try it again, try it again.
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I think we got it once,
and everyone got really excited.
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But we didn't know
what we had done.
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I think it was an accident.
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Yes.
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That's it.
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There's a rhythm in the song.
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Just the way
that we were all communicating
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and getting comfortable
with each other, it was cool.
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It was important to establish
a work of art together.
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I'm looking forward to trying
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to write some other songs,
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because I'm sure this is the
land for it, to create music.
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You know, it's travelling,
and when you travel,
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that opens your mind
and your inspiration.
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It's always really nice
just to go to a new place
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we've never been.
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Often as a band
going through towns
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and just not stopping, really.
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It gets kind of exhausting.
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So, to actually work out ways
in which you can really engage
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with a country and its people...
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And we will embrace
this opportunity.
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This collaboration
is a prime example of that.
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I'm just looking forward
to not just visiting the place,
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but actually making some
friendships, connections, music.
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That's really why we do this,
you know?
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We should have gone
to South Africa
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much earlier than we have.
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It's one of those things, like,
when you haven't got back
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to someone who has written
to you and you feel so bad
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and then you feel so bad
that you just leave it,
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cos you're scared of it.
It's a bit like that.
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Thanks to you for being
patient. You're great.
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And I'm so proud we got to come.
I'm really, fucking proud.
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One, two...
One, two, three, four.
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Yeah!
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Yeah!
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Music is the best way
that I can communicate.
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I've always struggled
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saying what I want to say
any other way.
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You know, sometimes the best
way to get to know each other
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is to do it
with an instrument in your hand
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and start telling stories
and singing stories.
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It's a nice way to go a couple
of layers deeper with people.
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There's something
about a collaboration
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that requires certain dynamics,
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and we've found there was
quite a natural balance
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of people bringing different
qualities to the table.
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We're gonna invite some
friends up on the stage
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to sing this next one with us.
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Please, welcome back Beatenberg
The Very Best and Mr Baaba Maal!
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It's made this kind
of weird super group,
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this, like, 1718-person
supergroup,
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which I'm really
enjoying the sound of
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Johan is great
when he's sober.
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He's very productive
when he's sober.
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Baaba is the king.
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Esau is a raw genius.
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Jutty is a soulful...
loving dude.
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He's the sort of guy you'd like
as an older brother, I think.
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Seye.
Seye is a big-match player.
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Robin.
He's just like a good vibes man.
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He's always cracking gags,
keeping everyone cheerful.
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Ross is very, like, present,
concentrating,
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and just working,
quietly aware of everything.
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Matthew is very jazzy,
but also a musical genius.
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Mamadou is officially
the nicest person in music.
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The sweetest man
maybe I've ever met.
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I hope we don't fuck up.
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And if we do fuck up,
we'll just hide behind Seye.
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Actually, this is
a great combination of..
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very different personalities.
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But all of them work
very well together.
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Thank you!
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We love them very much.
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We're getting
to spend another whole week
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in this wonderful country,
touring around with them.
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As with any recording
process and creative process,
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whether you’re on tour or not,
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it's like anything that's around
you will influence you a lot.
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It might be the hotel room
that you are stuck in.
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You know, it's the thing
that influences you.
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But if you venture out,
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and can get influences from
whatever it is you come across
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and see and experience,
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I think that can have
a much bigger impact, actually.
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I love going to a place
I've never been before.
246
00:17:07,531 --> 00:17:10,784
It gives me such
a sense of achievement,
247
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even without doing anything,
just going there.
248
00:17:15,622 --> 00:17:18,625
My grandparents
lived in Kloof, here.
249
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I guess Dad and his sister
250
00:17:21,836 --> 00:17:23,296
would have come here
on their holidays.
251
00:17:23,421 --> 00:17:28,218
The story I heard
from Aunty Penny
252
00:17:28,343 --> 00:17:31,304
was that there was some
P. W Botha election rally
253
00:17:31,471 --> 00:17:34,599
and he was talking about how
you mustn't have interracial...
254
00:17:35,225 --> 00:17:38,728
I think interracial marriage
was illegal, and having sex,
255
00:17:39,646 --> 00:17:42,482
interracially,
would form mongrels,
256
00:17:42,941 --> 00:17:46,945
which Dad was
very loudly heckling.
257
00:17:47,237 --> 00:17:49,489
And then, when P. W Botha said,
258
00:17:49,656 --> 00:17:51,157
"What other country boasts
259
00:17:51,324 --> 00:17:53,451
the roads and infrastructure
that we have,"
260
00:17:53,577 --> 00:17:56,538
he shouted, "Nazi Germany."
And got ushered out.
261
00:17:56,663 --> 00:18:00,250
So, I think my dad's cool
for a lot of reasons,
262
00:18:00,375 --> 00:18:02,168
but that is pretty fucking sick.
263
00:18:12,929 --> 00:18:15,724
We went for lunch.
We stopped at a hotel,
264
00:18:16,266 --> 00:18:19,853
called the George Hotel,
in Eshowe.
265
00:18:21,563 --> 00:18:23,315
We met the guy who runs it,
266
00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,358
who apparently
I met three years ago
267
00:18:25,483 --> 00:18:29,237
in a pub in Ipswich
and he remembered my name.
268
00:18:31,531 --> 00:18:33,783
He's taking us
into the heart of Zululand,
269
00:18:34,451 --> 00:18:39,873
to meet a witch doctor,
who I think is going to...
270
00:18:40,123 --> 00:18:43,126
Do witch doctors heal us
or say prayers for us?
271
00:18:43,585 --> 00:18:45,170
- I think we're gonna find out.
- We're going to find out.
272
00:18:45,295 --> 00:18:47,297
He's going to throw some bones.
273
00:18:47,422 --> 00:18:48,882
He's going to throw some bones.
274
00:19:01,478 --> 00:19:02,312
Hey!
275
00:19:05,065 --> 00:19:06,358
These are the herbs
276
00:19:06,608 --> 00:19:10,236
that Michael uses.
277
00:19:10,403 --> 00:19:13,615
Michael has also brought
the love potion.
278
00:19:14,407 --> 00:19:18,536
You know, let's say
there's this girl that you like.
279
00:19:18,662 --> 00:19:21,748
Then you'll come to Michael
and he'll give you something,
280
00:19:21,915 --> 00:19:24,125
so you will put it here
on your eyebrows,
281
00:19:24,250 --> 00:19:26,378
then that girl
will find you irresistible.
282
00:19:27,295 --> 00:19:28,213
Yeah.
283
00:20:22,475 --> 00:20:24,144
This song's called
"There Will Be Time".
284
00:21:34,547 --> 00:21:37,008
When you're on tour you end up
in this tittle bubble.
285
00:21:37,300 --> 00:21:40,386
So, the fact that we did
the Cape Town show,
286
00:21:40,512 --> 00:21:43,389
the Durban show, at that point,
for me, I felt like
287
00:21:43,556 --> 00:21:45,850
all the bands were all
in this bubble together.
288
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,604
It kind of bonds you
as a family,
289
00:21:49,729 --> 00:21:51,981
for the period
that you are all together.
290
00:22:12,335 --> 00:22:15,630
We were all offstage
and away from the shows,
291
00:22:16,256 --> 00:22:18,049
engaging pretty deeply
292
00:22:18,174 --> 00:22:21,177
in any element
of the cities as we could.
293
00:22:21,928 --> 00:22:23,805
Talking to people,
coming back with stories,
294
00:22:23,930 --> 00:22:26,683
having that exchange,
going out in the evenings.
295
00:22:26,808 --> 00:22:31,312
And that stuff ends up being
a subtext or a kind of basis
296
00:22:31,437 --> 00:22:33,773
for actually recording
and making music together.
297
00:22:39,028 --> 00:22:41,781
We felt like we were all there
physically.
298
00:22:41,906 --> 00:22:47,579
We were in South Africa,
exchanging stories already.
299
00:22:54,043 --> 00:22:56,713
I think there's a real bond,
everyone's on really good form.
300
00:22:56,838 --> 00:22:59,716
It felt like we were ready to
kind of start writing songs,
301
00:22:59,841 --> 00:23:01,134
and getting on with it.
302
00:23:33,499 --> 00:23:34,584
Thank you!
303
00:23:40,924 --> 00:23:42,008
Colin, the manager.
304
00:23:42,383 --> 00:23:43,801
- Hey, boys.
- Hi.
305
00:23:50,099 --> 00:23:51,351
There's nary a body in here.
306
00:23:53,645 --> 00:23:54,687
Lads!
307
00:23:55,563 --> 00:23:56,606
Lads!
308
00:23:59,108 --> 00:24:00,318
Johan!
309
00:24:05,531 --> 00:24:06,866
I lost you.
310
00:24:08,201 --> 00:24:10,453
We are at the South Africa
Broadcast Centre.
311
00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:14,707
It's a bit weird,
it was built in the '70s.
312
00:24:14,999 --> 00:24:16,709
'60s, '70s. I don't know.
313
00:24:19,003 --> 00:24:20,463
No windows anywhere.
314
00:24:20,588 --> 00:24:21,881
No one ever knows
what time it is,
315
00:24:22,048 --> 00:24:23,341
which I think is intentional.
316
00:24:28,429 --> 00:24:30,056
The rooms
definitely sound good,
317
00:24:30,223 --> 00:24:33,476
cos they're ail wood and dead,
318
00:24:33,601 --> 00:24:34,644
which is kind of important.
319
00:24:38,773 --> 00:24:40,108
This is the exciting bit.
320
00:24:41,734 --> 00:24:43,903
I don't know why everybody's
so nervous about this.
321
00:24:44,362 --> 00:24:46,155
This'll be fine. It'll be fine.
322
00:24:47,031 --> 00:24:49,242
There's a lot of really
confusing corridors.
323
00:24:50,410 --> 00:24:53,579
I think it's good because it
means there's no distractions.
324
00:24:54,664 --> 00:24:56,666
You literally have to go
through airport security
325
00:24:56,791 --> 00:24:58,209
to get in and out
of the building, so...
326
00:24:58,334 --> 00:25:02,088
It's easier just to sit
and play another musical idea
327
00:25:02,255 --> 00:25:04,215
than it is to go outside
and get some fresh air
328
00:25:04,340 --> 00:25:06,259
which, when you've only got
two days to record
329
00:25:06,676 --> 00:25:08,803
some sort of record,
330
00:25:09,762 --> 00:25:11,764
is a healthy thing.
331
00:25:31,284 --> 00:25:34,704
I don't think it's gonna
mess with anyone's creativity.
332
00:25:34,912 --> 00:25:37,457
It puts you in a situation where
you're out of your comfort zone
333
00:25:37,623 --> 00:25:39,751
and everybody is equally
out of their comfort zone,
334
00:25:39,876 --> 00:25:42,462
so everybody is kind
of equally shocked, in a way.
335
00:25:42,587 --> 00:25:45,256
And I think shocking can be
really good to creativity.
336
00:25:51,387 --> 00:25:54,348
For us, music
is as much a social project
337
00:25:54,474 --> 00:25:57,143
as it is a technical one,
you know?
338
00:25:58,144 --> 00:25:59,771
We've got a bunch of engineers.
339
00:25:59,896 --> 00:26:02,982
We've got Dan and Joel,
Johan and Ben,
340
00:26:03,149 --> 00:26:06,027
who can all engineer
recording sessions.
341
00:26:06,152 --> 00:26:07,737
And then we've got
amazing musicians
342
00:26:07,862 --> 00:26:11,574
who can lead, like, jams,
and rehearsals,
343
00:26:11,699 --> 00:26:13,159
and come up with ideas.
344
00:26:13,326 --> 00:26:14,577
Then we've got writers
as well.
345
00:26:14,702 --> 00:26:17,663
So, we know we've got the
potential to do something cool.
346
00:26:18,331 --> 00:26:21,042
Then it's about logistically
whether it can happen.
347
00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:25,588
I'm pretty apprehensive.
348
00:26:25,713 --> 00:26:27,840
It could just be like
loads of little drum patterns.
349
00:26:28,466 --> 00:26:29,342
Some random...
350
00:26:31,260 --> 00:26:34,388
...jokes, melodies that don't
make any sense on top.
351
00:26:34,639 --> 00:26:36,974
Could be awful.
Could be awful.
352
00:26:41,020 --> 00:26:43,231
For some musicians,
everything has to be planned
353
00:26:43,356 --> 00:26:45,399
but here, we don't have
a plan B, D...
354
00:26:45,525 --> 00:26:48,486
We have ideas. Everyone
came with different ideas,
355
00:26:48,611 --> 00:26:51,781
and we just put it
in the same place
356
00:26:51,906 --> 00:26:53,324
and make it happen, I think.
357
00:26:54,033 --> 00:26:56,035
That's the thing. Everyone
wants to give something,
358
00:26:56,202 --> 00:26:58,871
everyone can bring some ideas.
359
00:26:59,622 --> 00:27:03,584
Maybe it's too many ideas,
also, to put together.
360
00:27:04,043 --> 00:27:05,711
But this is how it should be.
361
00:27:09,298 --> 00:27:12,051
I don't think that
"dah dah dah dah"... or like...
362
00:27:12,218 --> 00:27:13,928
Do you think that should
run through the chords as well?
363
00:27:14,220 --> 00:27:16,430
- What, that?
- No, no.
364
00:27:16,556 --> 00:27:19,684
It's rare. We're supposed
to go in the studio
365
00:27:19,809 --> 00:27:21,185
and our plan
is to make two songs.
366
00:27:22,186 --> 00:27:23,479
Maybe two instrumentals.
367
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,775
Cos there's four bands in there
and it's complicated.
368
00:27:27,900 --> 00:27:31,237
It's like two studios... It's
like everything is against us.
369
00:27:33,656 --> 00:27:34,949
What the fuck was that?
370
00:27:35,616 --> 00:27:36,576
What was that?
371
00:27:38,286 --> 00:27:39,996
Is that breaking up
with you loads?
372
00:27:40,121 --> 00:27:41,414
That's nasty.
373
00:27:43,166 --> 00:27:45,751
Nothing seemed to work,
even though they had these
374
00:27:45,877 --> 00:27:48,921
really elaborate set-ups
and desks and everything.
375
00:27:49,213 --> 00:27:51,591
Every time we plugged something
in, it crackled and popped.
376
00:27:52,133 --> 00:27:56,095
So, I think Dan's probably lost
a few years of his life,
377
00:27:56,220 --> 00:27:57,096
unfortunately.
378
00:27:59,557 --> 00:28:01,601
Yeah, it kind of comes
with the territory, I guess.
379
00:28:01,726 --> 00:28:04,604
- So, it's not the amp.
- No.
380
00:28:05,646 --> 00:28:10,359
I think there's a lot
of worrying from people
381
00:28:11,569 --> 00:28:13,446
who's been here for days
trying to set it up.
382
00:28:13,571 --> 00:28:15,489
You know, Dan, Beth, Joel...
383
00:28:16,032 --> 00:28:17,617
You know, there's always
ways around it.
384
00:28:18,367 --> 00:28:20,411
Cool, we've figured out
how to do it.
385
00:28:20,536 --> 00:28:21,329
Great.
386
00:28:21,454 --> 00:28:22,955
We 're cutting out
the control room.
387
00:28:23,456 --> 00:28:25,208
That is coming down
and going straight into me.
388
00:28:25,333 --> 00:28:26,292
Wicked.
389
00:28:26,417 --> 00:28:29,712
And we're setting up the same
scenario thing in there,
390
00:28:30,004 --> 00:28:31,756
on my other laptop
that Dan will run.
391
00:28:31,881 --> 00:28:33,716
Luckily,
Johan had the idea ages ago
392
00:28:33,841 --> 00:28:35,384
when we were
sorting this out.
393
00:28:35,509 --> 00:28:38,012
He's going to bring
his own mobile recording set-up,
394
00:28:38,137 --> 00:28:40,097
so, if all else fails,
we can record through him.
395
00:28:40,223 --> 00:28:42,141
So, we're using
all their really posh gear,
396
00:28:42,475 --> 00:28:43,559
going into a laptop.
397
00:28:43,976 --> 00:28:45,937
Thank goodness for, like,
modern recording!
398
00:28:46,062 --> 00:28:48,981
That was a very natural
rehearsal room
399
00:28:49,273 --> 00:28:51,817
and that was a very natural
set-up recording room.
400
00:28:52,109 --> 00:28:53,986
The rehearsal room still worked
401
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,489
as a place where people
jammed out ideas.
402
00:28:57,573 --> 00:28:58,824
There will be
multi-track recording.
403
00:28:59,116 --> 00:29:02,245
Dan Grech will be in there,
Joel will be in there,
404
00:29:02,995 --> 00:29:04,247
capturing everything.
405
00:29:04,372 --> 00:29:07,166
It's like writing,
tracking basic ideas.
406
00:29:07,458 --> 00:29:09,001
The room that I was working in,
407
00:29:09,126 --> 00:29:11,254
where me and Marcus
would be most of the time,
408
00:29:11,379 --> 00:29:12,713
receiving some of the songs,
409
00:29:13,297 --> 00:29:14,966
getting players in
from their session
410
00:29:15,549 --> 00:29:18,928
and adding things to that and
building tracks more properly
411
00:29:19,053 --> 00:29:20,554
as you were doing a production.
412
00:29:25,184 --> 00:29:27,061
A lot of the time there were
two different atmospheres.
413
00:29:27,186 --> 00:29:29,772
There was like a quite serious,
professional,
414
00:29:31,315 --> 00:29:35,444
rootsy thing going on
in the live room.
415
00:29:35,569 --> 00:29:38,906
Then in the other room,
we were, like,
416
00:29:39,031 --> 00:29:43,536
trying out weird hip-hop beats,
screaming, jumping around
417
00:29:43,703 --> 00:29:45,288
and drinking loads of beer.
418
00:30:04,015 --> 00:30:06,475
There was a really
interesting flow of energy
419
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,394
and people's productivity.
420
00:30:08,561 --> 00:30:10,021
We had time limitations.
421
00:30:10,146 --> 00:30:13,149
There wasn't necessarily
enough flexibility
422
00:30:13,274 --> 00:30:15,735
for us to kind of take
long breaks.
423
00:30:16,736 --> 00:30:19,905
I noticed people would start
getting on cycles of pairings
424
00:30:20,031 --> 00:30:21,699
and groups of threes or fours.
425
00:30:21,824 --> 00:30:24,243
Then someone would take the lead
and someone would sit back.
426
00:30:24,410 --> 00:30:27,371
And that was happening
just entirely naturally.
427
00:30:27,496 --> 00:30:29,832
None of that was discussed
beforehand.
428
00:30:29,957 --> 00:30:31,125
It's three, right?
429
00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:34,795
Yeah.
430
00:30:38,924 --> 00:30:41,177
That'd be cool
to have a fill into that.
431
00:30:46,724 --> 00:30:47,600
Come on, then.
432
00:30:56,776 --> 00:31:00,279
Baaba... On the "aaah",
the first one,
433
00:31:00,446 --> 00:31:01,697
can you start it
with full voice?
434
00:31:06,619 --> 00:31:09,163
I'll edit together
like the dream take,
435
00:31:09,288 --> 00:31:10,748
and tomorrow he'll listen to it
436
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,458
and he learns it
and he'll do it.
437
00:31:12,625 --> 00:31:15,002
In a couple of takes
it'll sound fucking amazing.
438
00:31:17,546 --> 00:31:19,131
Bro. See you tomorrow.
439
00:31:26,389 --> 00:31:27,390
Oh, yes.
440
00:31:27,515 --> 00:31:30,309
- This is damn...
- I'm a Masai.
441
00:31:31,143 --> 00:31:32,770
- And you’re a size 13?
- Exactly.
442
00:31:34,230 --> 00:31:35,689
- Exercise.
- Yeah.
443
00:31:37,191 --> 00:31:37,858
Bah!
444
00:31:37,983 --> 00:31:40,403
He nicked it.
Johan has to be cold all night.
445
00:31:40,528 --> 00:31:42,154
He's 76 years old.
446
00:31:43,989 --> 00:31:46,951
- Can you believe that?
- He looks good, though.
447
00:31:47,076 --> 00:31:50,287
- Septuagenarian.
- A septuagenarian.
448
00:31:50,413 --> 00:31:52,331
Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
449
00:31:52,456 --> 00:31:53,916
- Wow!
- You look great.
450
00:31:54,667 --> 00:31:57,378
The first days
have been really fun.
451
00:31:58,546 --> 00:31:59,588
Win was bummed out.
452
00:32:00,005 --> 00:32:01,924
He was pissed off
at the end of the day.
453
00:32:02,758 --> 00:32:04,844
But he gets stressed out
about everything, so...
454
00:32:06,262 --> 00:32:10,808
Firstly, that building is the
most depressing building ever.
455
00:32:11,684 --> 00:32:15,688
I didn't see daylight for 60...
or fucking all day.
456
00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:18,524
And nothing worked.
457
00:32:19,567 --> 00:32:21,026
I was standing back
just thinking,
458
00:32:21,193 --> 00:32:24,447
Joel and Dan, Johan, Ben
would all sort it out.
459
00:32:24,738 --> 00:32:25,865
I just believed in them.
460
00:32:26,157 --> 00:32:28,117
So, it wasn't realty stressful
for me cos I wasn't the one
461
00:32:28,242 --> 00:32:29,702
actually having
to sort it out.
462
00:32:29,869 --> 00:32:31,370
I was a bit wiped out.
463
00:32:31,579 --> 00:32:35,040
We'd all committed pretty
heavily to the whole project,
464
00:32:35,207 --> 00:32:37,376
but especially to Johannesburg
and the recording.
465
00:32:37,543 --> 00:32:40,838
And just before we went back
to our hotel rooms,
466
00:32:40,963 --> 00:32:43,257
at the end of the night
we did say
467
00:32:43,382 --> 00:32:47,178
that we've got to try and find
a different way tomorrow.
468
00:32:47,303 --> 00:32:48,846
We have to come away
with something.
469
00:32:50,764 --> 00:32:52,766
I think we were there
till, like, 5am,
470
00:32:52,933 --> 00:32:54,977
working out which things worked,
which things didn't.
471
00:32:55,102 --> 00:32:57,229
Today we can actually go,
472
00:32:57,396 --> 00:32:59,106
"Right, this stuff works,
let's use this."
473
00:32:59,398 --> 00:33:01,817
So later on this afternoon,
we'll be able to record.
474
00:33:01,942 --> 00:33:04,069
It will be great.
We're just behind, that's all.
475
00:33:04,195 --> 00:33:04,904
Cool.
476
00:33:05,070 --> 00:33:06,655
And the fun thing
will be the rehearsal room.
477
00:33:06,780 --> 00:33:08,782
Time is a bit of the essence
cos we've got Baaba Maal here,
478
00:33:08,908 --> 00:33:10,618
we've got Esau
from our band here.
479
00:33:10,743 --> 00:33:12,495
And I don't know the next time
480
00:33:12,620 --> 00:33:14,705
when we're gonna be able
to record with them.
481
00:33:14,997 --> 00:33:16,248
So, the priority right now
482
00:33:16,373 --> 00:33:18,125
is getting the structures
of the songs down,
483
00:33:18,250 --> 00:33:19,793
just so that they can do
their vocals on them.
484
00:33:20,085 --> 00:33:22,421
Sorry to interrupt. Do you know
what's gonna happen today?
485
00:33:22,546 --> 00:33:23,714
- What?
- We're gonna die happy.
486
00:33:23,839 --> 00:33:27,635
We're gonna hear Baaba's scream
in an anechoic chamber.
487
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,261
Oh, my God, that'd be amazing.
488
00:33:31,347 --> 00:33:32,348
- But dead.
- Yeah.
489
00:33:32,473 --> 00:33:33,557
That'll be saucy.
490
00:33:33,682 --> 00:33:35,392
We have to...
I'll talk to you about it.
491
00:33:35,518 --> 00:33:37,019
Where is he?
492
00:33:43,567 --> 00:33:46,237
I think assembling
the right group of people
493
00:33:46,362 --> 00:33:47,821
is half the work.
494
00:33:48,697 --> 00:33:51,075
And having the right attitude
in that group.
495
00:33:51,450 --> 00:33:53,619
But then you know that Baaba
is going to sing something
496
00:33:53,786 --> 00:33:55,788
that'll blow your socks off
at some point.
497
00:33:55,955 --> 00:33:58,123
You know that Mamadou
is going to be able to play
498
00:33:58,290 --> 00:33:59,917
rhythms that you want to hear.
499
00:34:01,001 --> 00:34:04,129
And you know that Matt,
Seye, Winston,
500
00:34:04,296 --> 00:34:06,507
all can play
really sick guitars.
501
00:34:07,299 --> 00:34:09,134
And everyone can write
out of that whole group.
502
00:34:09,301 --> 00:34:10,970
So, that's where we get...
503
00:34:11,136 --> 00:34:12,471
And then just straight to...
504
00:34:13,597 --> 00:34:14,306
Oh, cool, OK.
505
00:34:14,431 --> 00:34:15,808
So, no atmosphere.
506
00:34:15,975 --> 00:34:19,144
- No, no, no. No sixth.
- OK.
507
00:34:19,311 --> 00:34:20,521
Can you just play that again?
508
00:34:21,272 --> 00:34:22,398
It's always so fascinating
509
00:34:22,523 --> 00:34:23,941
doing a collaboration
with anyone.
510
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:25,693
Even more so
when there's a sort
511
00:34:25,985 --> 00:34:27,611
of cross-cultural
thing happening.
512
00:34:27,736 --> 00:34:30,406
Because the last thing
we wanted to feel like
513
00:34:30,531 --> 00:34:33,284
is some sort of cultural
exchange, or something.
514
00:34:33,409 --> 00:34:35,035
Like that. It sounds really dry.
515
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,163
It's actually just
a really genuinely interesting
516
00:34:38,330 --> 00:34:42,001
and useful thing, I think,
for musicians to share ideas.
517
00:34:42,293 --> 00:34:44,253
You learn a lot
when you're sort of like
518
00:34:44,378 --> 00:34:48,382
not in your usual sort
of rabbit runs of making music.
519
00:34:50,676 --> 00:34:53,679
And then the next time, after
the chorus, we'll do your bit.
520
00:34:53,804 --> 00:34:55,306
Yeah, yeah.
521
00:34:55,431 --> 00:34:57,433
- The short one.
- Yeah, the shorty.
522
00:34:57,558 --> 00:34:59,935
And then after the next chorus
we just do the long one.
523
00:35:00,060 --> 00:35:00,686
Yeah.
524
00:35:00,853 --> 00:35:02,396
The shorty is still twice
over there, isn't it?
525
00:35:02,813 --> 00:35:03,606
I think so, yeah.
526
00:35:14,450 --> 00:35:17,369
In that kind
of insecure environment,
527
00:35:17,536 --> 00:35:19,705
where people
are throwing out stuff,
528
00:35:19,872 --> 00:35:21,040
not knowing if it's good or not
529
00:35:21,165 --> 00:35:23,334
but just sort of saying
maybe it's all about that.
530
00:35:23,459 --> 00:35:25,711
There needs to be
a real level of trust.
531
00:35:27,129 --> 00:35:29,340
If the guy makes a break
on the counter,
532
00:35:29,465 --> 00:35:30,758
and he's making
a run up the fields,
533
00:35:31,050 --> 00:35:32,343
you should probably go with him.
534
00:35:52,905 --> 00:35:56,450
That's why he's the best.
He just proved it. Again.
535
00:35:58,994 --> 00:36:00,371
This is more of a...
536
00:36:00,746 --> 00:36:02,247
This is a bit more
of a..."prrrp".
537
00:36:04,875 --> 00:36:06,251
Oh, yeah, this machine.
538
00:36:06,377 --> 00:36:09,672
It's not really for everybody.
It's more adventurous.
539
00:36:09,963 --> 00:36:12,883
But it's got such sounds
as Matt just produced.
540
00:36:13,342 --> 00:36:14,802
Also a little bit...
541
00:36:30,776 --> 00:36:32,361
The beans are from Brazil,
they're good.
542
00:36:32,486 --> 00:36:34,530
Not as good as the beans
my brother roasts.
543
00:36:35,072 --> 00:36:36,156
The last one I had was from...
544
00:36:39,576 --> 00:36:41,370
Things have shaped up
pretty quickly today.
545
00:36:41,954 --> 00:36:44,832
And the song feels
like a song now, which is cool.
546
00:36:45,624 --> 00:36:47,960
There's still work to do,
still some lyrics to finish,
547
00:36:48,127 --> 00:36:50,129
and stuff like that
but I think it's good.
548
00:36:56,051 --> 00:36:57,553
Because there was no phone
signal, there was no way
549
00:36:57,678 --> 00:37:00,139
of communicating that something
was actually happening now.
550
00:37:00,264 --> 00:37:06,270
So you end up forming
mini-teams or micro-alliances,
551
00:37:06,395 --> 00:37:09,398
where you're like,
"Let's go and get the core
552
00:37:09,523 --> 00:37:10,774
of something moving."
553
00:37:10,899 --> 00:37:13,610
So, if anyone were
to walk into the room,
554
00:37:13,736 --> 00:37:17,489
we would be on a path that was
inevitable with something.
555
00:37:17,656 --> 00:37:19,158
This is now like a competition
556
00:37:19,324 --> 00:37:21,493
between who's the most
organised room.
557
00:37:24,037 --> 00:37:25,330
So, do you think
the longer melody,
558
00:37:25,456 --> 00:37:26,498
the first melody is better?
559
00:37:26,665 --> 00:37:29,126
The first melody kind of sold it
a little bit more for me.
560
00:37:29,251 --> 00:37:30,419
They're both really good,
though.
561
00:37:30,544 --> 00:37:32,129
None that are made,
like, exaggerated,
562
00:37:32,254 --> 00:37:33,797
or took away from the rhythm.
563
00:37:34,089 --> 00:37:36,341
OK, so we need Seye,
we need Mamadou.
564
00:37:37,843 --> 00:37:39,094
Let's get all this down.
565
00:37:39,511 --> 00:37:42,473
Then take five minutes together
to build something extra.
566
00:37:42,598 --> 00:37:43,348
Let's do that.
567
00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:48,979
- Something in that?
- Yeah, man.
568
00:37:49,104 --> 00:37:50,022
Yeah, man?
569
00:37:51,398 --> 00:37:53,609
- Don't let it go to waste, man.
- Not go to waste, man.
570
00:37:53,859 --> 00:37:55,027
We're not gonna waste it.
571
00:37:56,945 --> 00:37:59,615
I get a sense of awe,
I get a sense of, wow,
572
00:37:59,740 --> 00:38:01,992
really watching someone
create something beautiful.
573
00:38:02,242 --> 00:38:06,205
It's not something you get
to get a window into very much.
574
00:38:06,622 --> 00:38:08,707
Watching other people’s
processes is interesting.
575
00:38:19,635 --> 00:38:23,180
The way Baaba and Esau
write is so just right there.
576
00:38:23,305 --> 00:38:25,682
They don’t plan anything,
really, in advance
577
00:38:25,808 --> 00:38:29,186
and that's quite inspiring
for people like us,
578
00:38:29,311 --> 00:38:31,814
who like to write everything in
advance of going into a studio.
579
00:38:34,107 --> 00:38:35,734
I think hanging out with them
made us realise
580
00:38:36,068 --> 00:38:39,404
it's cool to write just
right there, on the microphone.
581
00:38:39,571 --> 00:38:43,075
Just quickly scribbling,
like, lyrics down.
582
00:38:43,242 --> 00:38:45,869
And I think it's about
creating an atmosphere,
583
00:38:46,537 --> 00:38:48,872
from which
that creativity can rise.
584
00:38:49,665 --> 00:38:52,668
Cos if we were all in, like,
Dalston, right now,
585
00:38:53,377 --> 00:38:55,295
we wouldn't have made the kind
of music that we just made.
586
00:38:57,464 --> 00:38:58,841
How does it start again?
587
00:39:00,384 --> 00:39:01,468
One second.
588
00:39:01,593 --> 00:39:04,137
What if it just started
with like a...
589
00:39:04,930 --> 00:39:06,765
Either like the first...
590
00:39:06,890 --> 00:39:08,100
What's the first chord
of the song?
591
00:39:09,268 --> 00:39:11,770
Yeah. With just like that,
a chord held,
592
00:39:12,062 --> 00:39:14,439
and you just do
some kind of "deserty"...
593
00:39:14,606 --> 00:39:16,275
You know how we start Baaba
often. He just...
594
00:39:16,441 --> 00:39:18,610
He's talking about the E-bow,
or something like that.
595
00:39:18,777 --> 00:39:22,781
And Baaba just does his big
massive vocal intro thing.
596
00:39:27,244 --> 00:39:29,121
And then it's like
when the cue comes,
597
00:39:29,246 --> 00:39:34,626
that's when the drum starts,
like an intro, basically.
598
00:39:37,212 --> 00:39:39,923
What's particularly great
about everyone on this tour
599
00:39:40,424 --> 00:39:43,302
is that, like, I'm certainly
in awe of everyone.
600
00:39:43,427 --> 00:39:47,097
Someone like Baaba, you're
kind of there just as a fan,
601
00:39:47,222 --> 00:39:48,223
as much as anything else.
602
00:39:48,348 --> 00:39:51,643
It's raw talent. It just feels
like the ultimate privilege.
603
00:40:26,178 --> 00:40:30,390
I was asking you, "How do you
feel to be in Africa?"
604
00:40:30,515 --> 00:40:34,353
And you ended up saying
you did travel a lot,
605
00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:36,855
but when you come to Africa,
there are so many things
606
00:40:37,022 --> 00:40:38,148
that come to your face.
607
00:40:38,482 --> 00:40:41,068
So many people,
so many flavours,
608
00:40:41,193 --> 00:40:45,697
so many colours, so many smells,
the food, and everything.
609
00:40:45,864 --> 00:40:47,658
- In one day, you get a lot.
- Yeah.
610
00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:50,202
This is a good experience,
you know?
611
00:40:50,327 --> 00:40:53,664
Travelling, I think, that's
the biggest lesson of life.
612
00:40:54,331 --> 00:40:55,624
It's my favourite thing
about it.
613
00:40:55,749 --> 00:40:57,876
In fact, that's why I have...
My first tattoo was "Tour".
614
00:40:58,126 --> 00:41:00,379
- "Tour"? OK.
- Same thing, just travel.
615
00:41:00,504 --> 00:41:01,505
- Travel, yeah.
- Seeing everything.
616
00:41:01,630 --> 00:41:04,758
What are you going to take back
from here to Senegal?
617
00:41:05,384 --> 00:41:08,804
You know, I have been coming
to South Africa a lot
618
00:41:08,929 --> 00:41:11,598
but this time is
really exceptional.
619
00:41:11,723 --> 00:41:14,893
It's all that's happening
behind the stage.
620
00:41:15,227 --> 00:41:16,770
This kind of friendship,
621
00:41:16,895 --> 00:41:19,815
or projecting ourselves
to the future.
622
00:41:20,524 --> 00:41:22,651
- Everyone is...
- Are we friends?
623
00:41:22,776 --> 00:41:25,404
Yeah, yeah.
Of course we're friends.
624
00:41:25,737 --> 00:41:26,780
Baaba's my mate.
625
00:41:54,141 --> 00:41:55,767
I think
we've always considered
626
00:41:55,934 --> 00:41:58,854
all of our albums as snapshots.
627
00:41:58,979 --> 00:42:00,272
They're just a really nice way
628
00:42:00,439 --> 00:42:02,607
to take a picture
of that moment in time.
629
00:42:05,110 --> 00:42:08,280
I feel like we could easily be
in London right now.
630
00:42:08,405 --> 00:42:09,781
We could be in New York,
we could be in LA.
631
00:42:10,449 --> 00:42:13,618
I think there is a massive
misinterpretation of...
632
00:42:13,744 --> 00:42:17,289
Not misinterpretation,
but I think there's a...
633
00:42:18,123 --> 00:42:21,752
an unfair brushstroke across
the whole of Johannesburg,
634
00:42:22,335 --> 00:42:24,921
as kind of a, "You can't walk
on the streets."
635
00:42:25,047 --> 00:42:26,465
It's the first thing everyone...
Yeah.
636
00:42:26,631 --> 00:42:28,800
There is a lot of fear-mongering
around, isn't there?
637
00:42:29,134 --> 00:42:31,053
It's what everyone says to you.♪
"Oh, be careful."
638
00:42:31,178 --> 00:42:33,472
The younger people
in Johannesburg right now
639
00:42:33,638 --> 00:42:38,977
are really trying to take
a huge amount of pride
640
00:42:39,102 --> 00:42:42,981
in redefining that perception
of their city.
641
00:42:43,482 --> 00:42:45,192
And that's pretty exhilarating.
642
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,821
Those conversations are pretty
amazing to be around, really.
643
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,656
People want to do something
about it.
644
00:42:53,575 --> 00:42:56,745
That hunger and that desire
that we can see in their eyes,
645
00:42:57,037 --> 00:42:58,747
and their passion for what
646
00:42:59,414 --> 00:43:04,169
Johannesburg, and South Africa,
more broadly, can become.
647
00:43:04,795 --> 00:43:07,130
We can have a part in that.
648
00:43:22,062 --> 00:43:26,191
I think song-writing lyrics
is probably the hardest part.
649
00:43:26,316 --> 00:43:28,110
It's the most common place
650
00:43:28,235 --> 00:43:30,153
where I see people struggle
under pressure.
651
00:43:31,780 --> 00:43:34,658
That mounting pressure of time,
652
00:43:34,783 --> 00:43:36,827
people are waiting
and all this stuff,
653
00:43:36,952 --> 00:43:39,329
for most peopie,
it doesn't do anything good
654
00:43:39,454 --> 00:43:40,622
for the writing process.
655
00:43:40,747 --> 00:43:41,665
Especially
if you're just missing
656
00:43:41,790 --> 00:43:43,291
this last little bit
or something.
657
00:43:57,305 --> 00:43:59,224
Having two days
to make a record
658
00:43:59,349 --> 00:44:00,475
is a massive challenge.
659
00:44:00,725 --> 00:44:02,769
I think we feit like
the vibe was going to be fine,
660
00:44:02,894 --> 00:44:04,354
that the playing would be fine.
661
00:44:04,479 --> 00:44:05,397
It was more the writing.
662
00:44:05,564 --> 00:44:09,901
That "da-da-da",
that's for the Esau-Baaba thing.
663
00:44:10,068 --> 00:44:10,944
It's high at the end.
664
00:44:12,779 --> 00:44:14,239
I think Baaba and Esau have
665
00:44:14,364 --> 00:44:18,368
a lot more up their sleeves
than they lead us to beiieve.
666
00:44:20,245 --> 00:44:22,080
I asked Baaba what one iine was
667
00:44:22,205 --> 00:44:24,499
and he said,
"That's a nursery rhyme."
668
00:44:25,417 --> 00:44:26,751
I was like, "Fuck you, man."
669
00:44:28,336 --> 00:44:30,922
I just started singing
about Humpty Dumpty.
670
00:44:31,214 --> 00:44:33,925
But he gets away with it,
it's briiliant.
671
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,679
And also, I think
Senegalese nursery rhymes
672
00:44:37,804 --> 00:44:39,639
are way more civilised
and sophisticated
673
00:44:39,764 --> 00:44:41,474
than old English ones.
674
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:44,686
There's a mad rush,
and we only got so much time,
675
00:44:44,811 --> 00:44:47,397
and we have to get
all this stuff done.
676
00:44:47,522 --> 00:44:48,732
At the same time,
677
00:44:49,274 --> 00:44:52,068
ifone person is sensitive
to thatpressure,
678
00:44:52,194 --> 00:44:53,653
you have to be reaily sensitive
with thatperson,
679
00:44:53,778 --> 00:44:55,488
allow thatperson to go away
680
00:44:55,614 --> 00:44:57,949
and have a bit of time
to do their thing.
681
00:45:01,620 --> 00:45:02,662
So, if I get this right,
682
00:45:02,787 --> 00:45:04,456
we're not leaving here
until we have it done.
683
00:45:04,623 --> 00:45:06,041
- No.
- Is that... Is that...
684
00:45:06,166 --> 00:45:07,417
We can do other shit, like,
685
00:45:07,542 --> 00:45:09,252
if you want to go away
and write something.
686
00:45:10,503 --> 00:45:12,130
- Maybe we should do like that.
- Yeah.
687
00:45:12,297 --> 00:45:14,674
There's a lot of other shit
we can do with Baaba.
688
00:45:14,799 --> 00:45:18,136
Yeah. That'll take a bit
of pressure off.
689
00:45:18,303 --> 00:45:20,096
We don't want to put you
under pressure.
690
00:45:20,222 --> 00:45:21,848
- But it makes it easy.
- It makes it easy.
691
00:45:22,140 --> 00:45:24,935
- Pressure makes it easy, or...
- OK, let's do half an hour.
692
00:45:25,685 --> 00:45:26,811
We'll see you at 10.30.
693
00:45:26,978 --> 00:45:28,063
- 10.30?
- Yeah.
694
00:45:29,814 --> 00:45:30,899
Yeah, exactly.
695
00:45:31,191 --> 00:45:32,817
I'm going out now.
696
00:45:33,568 --> 00:45:36,154
- I feel like a walk, too.
- OK, let's go for a walk.
697
00:46:40,051 --> 00:46:43,305
I think having a time pressure
on iyrics is really helpful.
698
00:46:45,265 --> 00:46:47,392
Sometimes the first idea
is the best idea.
699
00:46:47,559 --> 00:46:50,353
The longeryou have
to dwell on the lyric,
700
00:46:50,478 --> 00:46:53,315
the more calculated
it can become,
701
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:54,524
and the iess powerful.
702
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,902
And so, having
a time pressure on it,
703
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:59,612
the writing of it can be
reaily helpfui,
704
00:46:59,738 --> 00:47:03,074
because it forces you to go
with ideas that come out first.
705
00:47:05,577 --> 00:47:07,495
When we are in one room
706
00:47:07,620 --> 00:47:09,372
and we know something eise
is happening in another room,
707
00:47:09,497 --> 00:47:11,541
we completely trust that what's
going on in the other room
708
00:47:11,666 --> 00:47:12,917
isn't a waste of time.
709
00:47:22,385 --> 00:47:23,511
Keep going, keep going.
710
00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:29,100
There was a moment
when Winston,
711
00:47:29,768 --> 00:47:35,190
who realty spearheaded this
"Fool You've Landed"song idea
712
00:47:35,315 --> 00:47:37,359
was trying to kind of navigate,
713
00:47:37,484 --> 00:47:41,696
or really react
to all these other ideas
714
00:47:41,988 --> 00:47:45,492
that ended up kind of infusing
into the song.
715
00:47:46,409 --> 00:47:49,579
Is the guitar part
over the chorus?
716
00:47:50,121 --> 00:47:51,414
- No.
- Guessed so.
717
00:47:52,082 --> 00:47:54,626
When someone finds
himself taking on a role,
718
00:47:54,793 --> 00:47:56,711
in a moment
of captaining a ship,
719
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,798
they need that sort of first
mate or they need that iike...
720
00:48:00,507 --> 00:48:04,427
They need a soundboard,
someone's got to back them up.
721
00:48:05,136 --> 00:48:06,971
We need some strong
counter-melodies.
722
00:48:08,139 --> 00:48:11,267
And a very short
guitar solo at the end.
723
00:48:12,310 --> 00:48:14,020
- I only do long ones.
- Oh, OK.
724
00:48:16,398 --> 00:48:17,899
- Do it really fast.
- OK.
725
00:48:44,259 --> 00:48:45,343
Shit...
726
00:48:46,177 --> 00:48:47,720
The "doesn't matter" part,
I need to get.
727
00:48:48,012 --> 00:48:49,764
Yeah. That's gonna be
be fucking sick.
728
00:48:50,056 --> 00:48:51,015
Fucking sick.
729
00:48:51,766 --> 00:48:52,934
Yeah!
730
00:48:53,184 --> 00:48:55,019
- Sexy.
- Yeah.
731
00:48:55,186 --> 00:48:56,354
And we're all sexy people.
732
00:49:16,958 --> 00:49:18,543
I should be recording
your demo takes
733
00:49:18,668 --> 00:49:19,544
because that's amazing.
734
00:49:29,596 --> 00:49:31,097
Johan, this way!
735
00:49:31,848 --> 00:49:33,141
- Huh?
- You're this way.
736
00:49:37,061 --> 00:49:37,729
Knackered.
737
00:49:39,522 --> 00:49:40,523
We're getting there.
738
00:49:42,108 --> 00:49:43,109
We're getting there.
739
00:49:44,569 --> 00:49:45,570
Getting there.
740
00:50:17,810 --> 00:50:20,021
I think everyone was
being slightly...
741
00:50:20,605 --> 00:50:23,233
What's the word?
I think they were...
742
00:50:23,358 --> 00:50:25,026
Hedging their bets a little bit,
743
00:50:25,151 --> 00:50:27,820
and saying, "As long as
we've got stuff to take home,
744
00:50:27,946 --> 00:50:31,282
and work on when we get back
to London, that would be great."
745
00:50:31,407 --> 00:50:32,784
But we're kind of arriving
at a point now
746
00:50:32,951 --> 00:50:34,244
where we've been
doing live takes,
747
00:50:34,369 --> 00:50:36,955
getting bass and drums down
748
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,123
and making sure
we've got all of, iike,
749
00:50:39,290 --> 00:50:42,794
Baaba Maal, Esau and those guys
who aren't in London so much.
750
00:50:42,919 --> 00:50:45,838
And we're gonna try and focus on
getting their stuff recorded,
751
00:50:45,964 --> 00:50:48,132
but being the bass player
752
00:50:48,258 --> 00:50:49,634
there's really very little
left for me to do
753
00:50:49,801 --> 00:50:51,970
apart from sort of crack on
with it.
754
00:50:52,095 --> 00:50:55,557
You know what I mean,
just get the old vino flowing.
755
00:50:55,682 --> 00:50:58,518
Just feel great
and enjoy Johannesburg.
756
00:50:58,643 --> 00:50:59,394
Ooh, yeah!
757
00:51:43,021 --> 00:51:45,773
We got so much shit done.
It was awesome.
758
00:51:46,065 --> 00:51:48,067
It was actualiy
the first day that was hard,
759
00:51:48,192 --> 00:51:50,445
because everyone was trying
to work out theirplace
760
00:51:50,570 --> 00:51:51,904
and their role.
761
00:51:52,655 --> 00:51:55,283
Everyone was just iike,
OK, am lgoing to bring a song,
762
00:51:55,408 --> 00:51:56,826
or am lgoing to piayguitar?
763
00:51:56,951 --> 00:51:59,203
And some guys like Seye
can fucking piay
764
00:51:59,370 --> 00:52:00,705
everything in the studio.
765
00:52:00,872 --> 00:52:02,665
He just sees a space
andgoes for it.
766
00:52:03,249 --> 00:52:07,378
Where we are now is further
than I had feit we would be,
767
00:52:07,545 --> 00:52:09,005
or even really wanted to be.
768
00:52:09,130 --> 00:52:10,965
I think we've ended up
with something cooi.
769
00:52:26,814 --> 00:52:27,732
So cool.
770
00:52:28,066 --> 00:52:31,152
With that, "There Will Be Time"
and "Ngamila" and this one.
771
00:52:31,277 --> 00:52:32,111
And Beatenberg.
772
00:52:33,071 --> 00:52:34,906
That's more than I would
have fucking expected
773
00:52:35,073 --> 00:52:36,407
to get out of these two days.
774
00:52:36,949 --> 00:52:39,577
It's been great.
We've got so much done.
775
00:52:39,702 --> 00:52:41,412
Like, unexpected stuff.
776
00:52:41,537 --> 00:52:44,040
Even things that we thought
was really good yesterday,
777
00:52:44,749 --> 00:52:47,919
and then today it's developed
into something so much better
778
00:52:48,044 --> 00:52:49,295
than we thought it could do.
779
00:52:49,420 --> 00:52:51,756
And yes, it's been amazing.
780
00:52:51,881 --> 00:52:52,924
Is this the right bag?
781
00:52:54,425 --> 00:52:56,469
There's nowhere eise
in the world I'drather be.
782
00:52:56,594 --> 00:52:58,930
Like, absolutely. Utteriy.
783
00:52:59,180 --> 00:53:01,766
- You're such a cheeseball.
- Shut up, mate.
784
00:53:18,074 --> 00:53:20,284
It's kind of bittersweet,
obviously,
785
00:53:20,410 --> 00:53:22,036
last show's in Pretoria.
786
00:53:22,412 --> 00:53:24,622
It's like a relief
that we've made it
787
00:53:24,747 --> 00:53:27,125
to Joburg and Pretoria live.
788
00:53:41,013 --> 00:53:41,848
During this trip,
789
00:53:41,973 --> 00:53:43,808
we've gotten to know
each other a iot better.
790
00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:46,477
And I think the more
we get to know each other,
791
00:53:46,644 --> 00:53:48,479
the more we know
how to push each other
792
00:53:48,604 --> 00:53:49,689
and how far
we can push each other.
793
00:53:58,114 --> 00:54:00,158
Yesterday I was stuck
in the room for 15 hours,
794
00:54:00,283 --> 00:54:01,534
like, barely eating anything.
795
00:54:01,659 --> 00:54:03,661
Just like working
on all these tracks
796
00:54:03,786 --> 00:54:04,787
and today I came offstage,
797
00:54:04,912 --> 00:54:06,456
thinking I was going
to have a second to relax,
798
00:54:06,581 --> 00:54:08,791
and first thing, Marcus is over,
and he's like,
799
00:54:09,083 --> 00:54:10,668
"I want to play one
of the songs from yesterday."
800
00:54:11,002 --> 00:54:14,005
So we pulled everybody together
801
00:54:14,130 --> 00:54:17,341
and put the track up,
as demo as it is,
802
00:54:17,467 --> 00:54:18,926
and tried to put it together.
803
00:54:19,677 --> 00:54:21,137
Ah, shit.
804
00:54:22,638 --> 00:54:24,307
I forgot something
I need on stage.
805
00:54:24,682 --> 00:54:25,850
What's that?
806
00:54:29,020 --> 00:54:31,647
Do you know where
Mumford's backstage is?
807
00:54:31,773 --> 00:54:33,858
You know? I'll meet you there.
808
00:54:34,609 --> 00:54:37,195
It's sort of like
skin of our teeth kind of stuff,
809
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,530
which we really love,
it's like brinkmanship.
810
00:54:39,697 --> 00:54:41,282
I just want to practise the end.
811
00:54:41,407 --> 00:54:44,035
With all of you guys,
the a cappella bit.
812
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,536
It gives it that edginess.
813
00:54:45,703 --> 00:54:47,705
I mean, we are not
a polished band, you know?
814
00:54:47,830 --> 00:54:50,291
And none of those artists are,
I don't think.
815
00:54:52,877 --> 00:54:54,712
- I just stop.
- Yeah, just stop.
816
00:54:54,837 --> 00:54:57,215
- Verse, chorus.
- OK, cool.
817
00:54:57,381 --> 00:55:00,051
And then into a big chant.
818
00:55:01,552 --> 00:55:04,055
Keep it short, and then we go
into "Lampenda".
819
00:55:08,726 --> 00:55:09,769
It does feel iike it, yeah.
820
00:55:11,312 --> 00:55:13,731
We always make things
difficult for ourselves.
821
00:55:14,023 --> 00:55:17,318
And there's no reai need to it,
cos I had hours off.
822
00:55:17,443 --> 00:55:19,362
I was reading.
I could easily have been
823
00:55:19,487 --> 00:55:21,113
with everyone trying to do it.
824
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,115
But, you know,
that's just the nature of tour.
825
00:55:23,241 --> 00:55:24,784
You get ideas at the last minute
826
00:55:25,076 --> 00:55:26,244
andyou've got to be
a "yes man"about it
827
00:55:26,369 --> 00:55:28,246
and make this shit happen.
828
00:55:28,412 --> 00:55:29,789
It's kind of the fun of it.
829
00:55:31,082 --> 00:55:33,209
We get to create
something privately,
830
00:55:33,334 --> 00:55:35,711
in this really weird bunker,
just us.
831
00:55:36,003 --> 00:55:36,796
And then go andplay it
832
00:55:36,921 --> 00:55:39,090
to the biggest crowd
we can possibiyplay it to.
833
00:55:39,507 --> 00:55:41,759
Which is, in some ways,
irresponsible,
834
00:55:41,884 --> 00:55:43,761
because thesepeople
have all bought tickets
835
00:55:43,886 --> 00:55:44,804
to see quality music
836
00:55:44,929 --> 00:55:47,223
and I'm not guaranteeing
that it's going to be quality.
837
00:55:48,474 --> 00:55:50,434
I think with the gig tonight,
838
00:55:50,601 --> 00:55:52,270
hopefully we'll sort
of present them
839
00:55:52,395 --> 00:55:54,689
with this mad idea that we had,
840
00:55:54,814 --> 00:55:56,107
that we still haven't really
fully formed,
841
00:55:56,274 --> 00:55:57,692
even until tonight, probably.
842
00:55:57,817 --> 00:56:00,111
Baaba
is the leader of that part.
843
00:56:00,236 --> 00:56:01,737
- Yeah.
- And he will not move it.
844
00:56:01,863 --> 00:56:03,447
- Right, OK.
- So we just have to follow him.
845
00:56:03,573 --> 00:56:04,448
OK.
846
00:56:04,615 --> 00:56:05,867
It's only got one chorus.
847
00:56:17,795 --> 00:56:19,714
...on that "breathless".
On the brim.
848
00:56:31,142 --> 00:56:32,768
One, two, three, four.
849
00:56:45,323 --> 00:56:46,490
We're running with them.
850
00:56:46,616 --> 00:56:48,159
- We'll explain everything.
- Cool.
851
00:56:48,284 --> 00:56:49,827
I'll rehearse with Matt.
852
00:56:49,994 --> 00:56:52,330
We'll make sure they're up to
scratch with what we're doing.
853
00:56:52,455 --> 00:56:54,582
I think by this point
in the tour, two weeks in,
854
00:56:54,707 --> 00:56:57,043
we've kind of done everything
we're supposed to do.
855
00:56:57,168 --> 00:56:59,170
The apprehension's gone.
856
00:56:59,337 --> 00:57:01,255
And it's like,
"Oh, we could do this song.
857
00:57:01,380 --> 00:57:02,924
lfit doesn'tgo well,
it doesn'tgo well."
858
00:57:07,303 --> 00:57:09,138
I don't like being filmed
when I'm posing.
859
00:57:16,771 --> 00:57:19,357
It was exciting and
it's exciting taking an attitude
860
00:57:19,482 --> 00:57:22,526
thatyou had in a pub
with three people in London
861
00:57:22,693 --> 00:57:24,320
when you first startedplaying
862
00:57:24,445 --> 00:57:27,198
and taking that attitude
in front of25,000peopie
863
00:57:27,365 --> 00:57:28,532
a very long way from home.
864
00:57:29,659 --> 00:57:30,743
We're notpretentious
865
00:57:30,868 --> 00:57:33,871
about it being
mountain-moving music.
866
00:57:34,163 --> 00:57:37,208
But it's realty fun and it comes
out of a place of joy
867
00:57:37,333 --> 00:57:41,712
and sharing and community
and expression.
868
00:57:42,004 --> 00:57:43,547
And we want to share it
with people.
869
00:57:44,423 --> 00:57:46,008
So, I've got this one dream.
870
00:57:46,133 --> 00:57:48,344
It's the only dream
I've ever had that's recurred.
871
00:57:48,469 --> 00:57:50,930
I've had it now like six,
seven times.
872
00:57:51,222 --> 00:57:53,933
It basically involves us
being on stage.
873
00:57:54,225 --> 00:57:56,727
And just doing the worst gig.
874
00:57:56,894 --> 00:57:58,562
Oh, I have that dream.
I have it all the time.
875
00:57:58,729 --> 00:58:00,815
Last night, I had it
and I woke up this morning,
876
00:58:01,065 --> 00:58:03,985
with like, the most loathing...
877
00:58:04,110 --> 00:58:06,696
I admit I have that recurring
dream ali the time, seriously.
878
00:58:06,821 --> 00:58:08,072
Oh, man.
879
00:58:34,140 --> 00:58:36,100
We wrote this song yesterday.
880
00:58:44,316 --> 00:58:46,027
So, listen,
here's the deal, right?
881
00:58:46,152 --> 00:58:48,279
If we fuck it up royally,
882
00:58:48,446 --> 00:58:50,406
we're just gonna stop
and start again.
883
00:58:57,663 --> 00:58:58,664
Here we go.
884
01:00:41,517 --> 01:00:43,561
Mr Baaba Maal!
885
01:00:48,649 --> 01:00:50,151
It's funny,
the relationship
886
01:00:50,276 --> 01:00:52,736
thatyou build up on a tour
together is so special.
887
01:00:53,404 --> 01:00:55,072
And you get so close topeople.
888
01:00:55,197 --> 01:00:56,574
It was like
that feeiingyou get
889
01:00:56,699 --> 01:00:58,826
afterhaving
a really big weekend,
890
01:00:59,118 --> 01:01:00,828
and then waking up on
Sunday morning and being like,
891
01:01:00,953 --> 01:01:03,205
"Oh, it's over. That's a shame.
That was realty fun."
892
01:01:03,330 --> 01:01:04,999
And you kind ofgot lost
for a couple of days.
893
01:01:13,674 --> 01:01:15,259
Something that
I've always thought about,
894
01:01:15,384 --> 01:01:17,011
in picking musicalprojects
895
01:01:17,136 --> 01:01:20,389
and deciding to venture out
on adventures in music
896
01:01:20,514 --> 01:01:21,432
and it's like,
897
01:01:21,557 --> 01:01:22,600
"What are we actuailygoing
to be looking back at
898
01:01:22,766 --> 01:01:24,393
when we iie on our death bed?"
899
01:01:24,518 --> 01:01:28,272
Is it the success oris it
thatpeople liked this or that,
900
01:01:28,439 --> 01:01:30,149
or is it the experience
that we had?
901
01:01:30,816 --> 01:01:33,485
It might be the experience
we have making a song
902
01:01:33,611 --> 01:01:36,280
or recording somewhere,
or being on a tour,
903
01:01:36,405 --> 01:01:38,657
that nobody eise
experienced but us.
904
01:01:39,700 --> 01:01:42,578
lt's just about trying to have
905
01:01:42,703 --> 01:01:46,457
a fulfilling experience
of life, making music.
906
01:01:56,592 --> 01:01:59,428
If you feel like
you can get close enough
907
01:01:59,553 --> 01:02:01,555
to some sort of form of success
908
01:02:02,223 --> 01:02:04,516
but constantly change
what that means to you,
909
01:02:04,642 --> 01:02:05,643
it can evolve.
910
01:02:06,685 --> 01:02:10,481
I think that our collective
version of success has evolved,
911
01:02:10,648 --> 01:02:11,815
and we've kind of understood
912
01:02:11,941 --> 01:02:14,026
what each other
are realty working towards
913
01:02:14,151 --> 01:02:15,611
and it means that
we choose to do things,
914
01:02:15,736 --> 01:02:18,447
like this South Africa trip,
and the record.
915
01:02:18,572 --> 01:02:22,159
Because doing so
is a step closer
916
01:02:22,284 --> 01:02:24,453
to our collective sense
of that success,
917
01:02:24,578 --> 01:02:26,372
and whatever
we come up with next,
918
01:02:26,497 --> 01:02:28,582
whatever weird and wonderful
idea we come up with,
919
01:02:28,707 --> 01:02:30,334
it's something
that we've created
920
01:02:30,459 --> 01:02:31,627
that we've united behind,
921
01:02:31,752 --> 01:02:34,630
as a way of somehow
pursuing that success.
922
01:02:45,641 --> 01:02:47,268
All these people
have their own stories.
923
01:02:47,393 --> 01:02:48,811
Yet it's my privilege
924
01:02:48,936 --> 01:02:51,188
to get to be in their world
just for a minute.
925
01:02:51,355 --> 01:02:53,148
Give it up for Beatenberg!
926
01:02:53,274 --> 01:02:54,817
That perspective,
I think, helps you
927
01:02:55,109 --> 01:02:57,611
with understanding your place
in the world a bit better.
928
01:02:57,736 --> 01:03:00,614
You're aware that you are not
the centre of the universe.
929
01:03:53,250 --> 01:03:54,418
Thank you so much.
930
01:03:55,002 --> 01:03:56,503
Ssh, ssh, ssh.
931
01:05:09,326 --> 01:05:10,619
Thank you so much.
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