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It's gonna be chaotic. 11 00:00:31,536 --> 00:00:34,539 And probably there'll be too much people. 12 00:00:34,664 --> 00:00:36,749 At least, the one thing I take confidence in 13 00:00:36,874 --> 00:00:39,961 is everybody is so chilled out that is coming on this trip, 14 00:00:40,086 --> 00:00:43,965 it's like there's no wild card person that is going to... 15 00:00:44,632 --> 00:00:45,550 Except Winston. 16 00:00:47,802 --> 00:00:48,803 Fine. 17 00:00:52,390 --> 00:00:55,560 We're gonna crack on. 18 00:00:58,938 --> 00:01:00,314 How are you doing, are you all right? 19 00:01:02,149 --> 00:01:03,693 We've always been a collaborative band. 20 00:01:03,818 --> 00:01:06,988 We were four guys in other bands, when we started out. 21 00:01:07,530 --> 00:01:10,533 It feels like a third date now. 22 00:01:11,826 --> 00:01:13,494 It's a deeply collaborative world 23 00:01:13,828 --> 00:01:17,498 and the sort of experiments like this one 24 00:01:17,665 --> 00:01:19,458 are realty what it's all about. 25 00:01:21,836 --> 00:01:23,629 ls everyone here from Cape Town? 26 00:01:28,175 --> 00:01:30,011 I love playing with people. 27 00:01:30,136 --> 00:01:32,388 It's fucking awesome. It makes you better, you know? 28 00:01:32,513 --> 00:01:36,350 We should, in theory, be able 29 00:01:36,475 --> 00:01:39,353 to lay down our egos and try and make something good. 30 00:01:39,478 --> 00:01:41,981 Having two days to record some songs 31 00:01:42,106 --> 00:01:43,608 is a massive challenge. 32 00:01:55,995 --> 00:01:58,706 There's something about travelling and being in places 33 00:01:58,831 --> 00:02:00,041 that you aren't from 34 00:02:00,207 --> 00:02:02,126 that keeps you kind of humbled, in some way. 35 00:02:03,878 --> 00:02:06,172 We love getting people up on stage, 36 00:02:06,297 --> 00:02:09,342 sharing those moments... And we've done it. 37 00:02:09,467 --> 00:02:11,010 Every step along the way. 38 00:02:13,888 --> 00:02:15,181 That's just the nature of a tour. 39 00:02:15,306 --> 00:02:16,182 It's kind of the fun of it. 40 00:02:16,307 --> 00:02:18,559 Travelling together and doing shows together. 41 00:02:18,726 --> 00:02:22,229 That always serves to deepen friendships and connections. 42 00:02:23,230 --> 00:02:24,565 We take a lot of pride in our shows 43 00:02:24,732 --> 00:02:27,276 and also in the way they're set up, the places that they're in. 44 00:02:28,569 --> 00:02:31,280 This first song is about what we were back in 1998. 45 00:02:32,657 --> 00:02:34,784 Yea-eah! 46 00:02:35,618 --> 00:02:38,829 The road, it never realty gets boring for us. 47 00:02:39,705 --> 00:02:42,083 For this band is, like, it is our home, really. 48 00:02:42,249 --> 00:02:44,669 It's where we make sense of everything that we do. 49 00:02:44,794 --> 00:02:46,212 A little police escort, eh? 50 00:02:46,337 --> 00:02:48,464 Is that the police or just one of the traffic wardens? 51 00:02:51,133 --> 00:02:52,968 I spoke to a radio DJ in Cape Town. 52 00:02:53,094 --> 00:02:54,428 He was like, "You've got to come and do a show." 53 00:02:54,595 --> 00:02:56,597 Winston went out there, came back 54 00:02:56,931 --> 00:02:59,183 and he wrote the longest email I've ever seen him write. 55 00:02:59,308 --> 00:03:01,477 And said, "Let's definitely do it." 56 00:03:35,177 --> 00:03:37,638 I think we get terrified at the idea 57 00:03:37,763 --> 00:03:39,515 of doing the same thing again and again, 58 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,642 and trying new things has always been... 59 00:03:42,268 --> 00:03:43,811 You know, it's how we started as a band. 60 00:03:45,229 --> 00:03:46,605 We booked the tour, 61 00:03:46,731 --> 00:03:49,817 and felt like we wanted to do something special around it, 62 00:03:49,942 --> 00:03:52,611 rather than just go there and play 63 00:03:52,737 --> 00:03:54,029 as big a show as we could. 64 00:03:55,948 --> 00:03:59,076 I think to come away with a good couple of songs, 65 00:03:59,368 --> 00:04:01,579 written and performed to some extent, 66 00:04:02,538 --> 00:04:03,497 would be amazing. 67 00:04:10,629 --> 00:04:12,173 I've never been to South Africa, 68 00:04:12,298 --> 00:04:15,718 so I don't quite know what to expect, really. 69 00:04:22,850 --> 00:04:25,519 It all sort of came together quite naturally, 70 00:04:25,686 --> 00:04:29,982 in that we had friends in The Very Best, Johan and those guys 71 00:04:30,357 --> 00:04:32,193 who we'd done shows with before. 72 00:04:32,610 --> 00:04:36,280 They introduced us to Baaba Maal and Mamadou. 73 00:04:37,531 --> 00:04:38,574 We got along really well, 74 00:04:38,699 --> 00:04:40,868 so from that, as a sort of first meeting, 75 00:04:40,993 --> 00:04:43,871 I think we realised we were on a similar page straightaway. 76 00:04:43,996 --> 00:04:46,832 We met the Beatenberg guys cos we asked them to come out 77 00:04:46,957 --> 00:04:50,711 and play at the stop-over we did in Aviemore, in Scotland. 78 00:04:50,878 --> 00:04:52,630 We were fans of theirs from afar. 79 00:04:52,755 --> 00:04:54,715 They're proper musicians. 80 00:04:56,050 --> 00:04:58,219 It's a weird mixture of people going to South Africa cos... 81 00:04:59,386 --> 00:05:00,805 Johan's Swedish, 82 00:05:01,180 --> 00:05:02,723 Beatenberg's South African, you know. 83 00:05:03,015 --> 00:05:04,558 Baaba is Senegalese. 84 00:05:04,683 --> 00:05:06,310 It's kind of a weird group. 85 00:05:15,653 --> 00:05:17,905 Everyone really just wants to play music 86 00:05:18,072 --> 00:05:19,740 and see other people play music well. 87 00:05:20,115 --> 00:05:21,700 No one came in as a star. 88 00:05:22,034 --> 00:05:25,162 No one came in with any kind of real "primadonna"stuff 89 00:05:25,287 --> 00:05:27,039 We just wanted to play music together. 90 00:05:27,623 --> 00:05:29,583 So even if he's right, just ignore him. 91 00:05:29,708 --> 00:05:31,585 Even if he's like, "Yeah..." 92 00:05:31,710 --> 00:05:33,838 It's all about learning, it's about a journey. 93 00:05:33,963 --> 00:05:37,591 We're driving into the mind of every one of us. 94 00:05:37,758 --> 00:05:39,844 And we drive into their environment, 95 00:05:39,969 --> 00:05:42,471 into their musical experiences. 96 00:05:42,596 --> 00:05:44,807 We come from different parts of the world. 97 00:05:45,099 --> 00:05:48,227 We know different things and we have to bring it together. 98 00:05:49,353 --> 00:05:50,437 Even though in effect 99 00:05:50,563 --> 00:05:53,065 we are ail strangers just coming together, 100 00:05:54,233 --> 00:05:56,652 to make music and go on tour, 101 00:05:56,777 --> 00:05:58,779 we'd still have a shared experience 102 00:05:58,946 --> 00:06:02,449 in that we all still have a job to play live for a crowd. 103 00:06:02,783 --> 00:06:05,119 And in that way we have something in common, 104 00:06:05,244 --> 00:06:06,120 immediately. 105 00:06:06,245 --> 00:06:11,041 So, we show up to the Cape Town gig, first day 106 00:06:11,166 --> 00:06:13,878 and everyone's aware that they have to play a gig that night. 107 00:06:14,962 --> 00:06:19,758 That gives everything a purpose and that sense of purpose helps 108 00:06:19,884 --> 00:06:21,760 to galvanise a group of people, I think. 109 00:06:33,939 --> 00:06:36,150 Their music is full of harmonies, 110 00:06:36,317 --> 00:06:41,071 it is full of joy, it is full of lessons of life, you know? 111 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:43,490 This is what you know from music in Africa. 112 00:06:43,616 --> 00:06:45,117 It's not just the rhythm. 113 00:06:45,242 --> 00:06:47,578 It's not just the show, the entertainment. 114 00:06:47,703 --> 00:06:50,039 It's also the melodies, it's also the harmonies. 115 00:06:50,164 --> 00:06:52,791 And, on the top of that, all the messages of love 116 00:06:53,083 --> 00:06:55,210 and respect, and coming together. 117 00:06:55,336 --> 00:06:58,339 I can't ask more than that. 118 00:07:40,297 --> 00:07:42,591 So, we've been doing this song "Lampenda" 119 00:07:43,092 --> 00:07:46,136 off Baaba's album. 120 00:07:48,055 --> 00:07:51,058 We're trying desperately just to do it justice, 121 00:07:51,183 --> 00:07:54,728 and to do a good version of the song, and Johan produced it. 122 00:07:55,354 --> 00:07:59,149 Obviously, it's Baaba's track, so, the pressure is really on us 123 00:07:59,274 --> 00:08:01,360 to deliver in that environment. 124 00:08:04,029 --> 00:08:07,157 Actually, it was probably a good way to start the collaboration 125 00:08:07,282 --> 00:08:10,285 because it put everybody on their toes. 126 00:08:10,411 --> 00:08:12,579 Because it was such a hard song to play live. 127 00:08:13,747 --> 00:08:16,917 Those guys are such great musicians 128 00:08:17,042 --> 00:08:19,003 and so musically bright. 129 00:08:19,128 --> 00:08:21,422 They've, like, so studied music so much. 130 00:08:21,588 --> 00:08:23,966 You're coming in earlier than it is on the record. 131 00:08:24,091 --> 00:08:25,426 On the record you leave a bigger gap. 132 00:08:27,219 --> 00:08:29,304 We very rarely talk about 133 00:08:29,430 --> 00:08:32,433 how many bars and what chord goes where. 134 00:08:32,558 --> 00:08:34,601 Whenever we're making music, that's not... 135 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:38,647 It's funny. It's almost making us be more like that. 136 00:08:39,273 --> 00:08:42,651 I think when we come to actually writing music together, 137 00:08:42,776 --> 00:08:45,112 it'll all feel a lot more natural, 138 00:08:45,237 --> 00:08:47,990 cos we’ll be starting at the same point, essentially. 139 00:08:48,282 --> 00:08:49,575 Let's hear it from the top. 140 00:08:50,034 --> 00:08:50,951 See if we can all lock in, 141 00:08:51,118 --> 00:08:53,996 cos I think everybody's still a little bit confused, I think. 142 00:08:54,288 --> 00:08:55,122 No shit! 143 00:08:57,207 --> 00:08:59,918 One, two, three, four. 144 00:09:01,378 --> 00:09:02,129 OK. 145 00:09:03,380 --> 00:09:04,256 Whenever you come in. 146 00:09:08,844 --> 00:09:10,095 I remember just looking at Baaba 147 00:09:10,220 --> 00:09:12,806 whilst we were massacring his song. 148 00:09:13,515 --> 00:09:15,517 We were kind of.. kept on screwing up. 149 00:09:17,102 --> 00:09:18,604 I think that was a really good song 150 00:09:18,729 --> 00:09:20,064 introducing ail of us 151 00:09:20,189 --> 00:09:22,524 into the way that we were trying to cross over 152 00:09:22,649 --> 00:09:24,568 different hybrid forms of music. 153 00:09:25,319 --> 00:09:27,654 We all thought we were telling each other how it went. 154 00:09:27,780 --> 00:09:29,656 And I was like, "No, this is how it goes, " 155 00:09:29,782 --> 00:09:31,617 and then it'd be wrong 156 00:09:31,742 --> 00:09:33,494 and Marcus would be like, "No, this is it. " 157 00:09:33,660 --> 00:09:35,579 And it would be a different sort of wrong. 158 00:09:37,039 --> 00:09:38,207 Try it again, try it again. 159 00:09:39,458 --> 00:09:42,044 I think we got it once, and everyone got really excited. 160 00:09:42,169 --> 00:09:43,337 But we didn't know what we had done. 161 00:09:43,504 --> 00:09:44,838 I think it was an accident. 162 00:09:50,469 --> 00:09:51,428 Yes. 163 00:09:56,850 --> 00:09:57,810 That's it. 164 00:09:58,685 --> 00:10:00,896 There's a rhythm in the song. 165 00:10:01,188 --> 00:10:02,773 Just the way that we were all communicating 166 00:10:02,898 --> 00:10:05,192 and getting comfortable with each other, it was cool. 167 00:10:05,692 --> 00:10:09,196 It was important to establish a work of art together. 168 00:10:10,364 --> 00:10:12,825 I'm looking forward to trying 169 00:10:12,950 --> 00:10:14,660 to write some other songs, 170 00:10:14,785 --> 00:10:19,039 because I'm sure this is the land for it, to create music. 171 00:10:19,206 --> 00:10:21,834 You know, it's travelling, and when you travel, 172 00:10:21,959 --> 00:10:23,961 that opens your mind and your inspiration. 173 00:10:40,018 --> 00:10:42,771 It's always really nice just to go to a new place 174 00:10:43,063 --> 00:10:44,565 we've never been. 175 00:10:44,690 --> 00:10:46,859 Often as a band going through towns 176 00:10:47,151 --> 00:10:48,443 and just not stopping, really. 177 00:10:49,570 --> 00:10:50,863 It gets kind of exhausting. 178 00:10:50,988 --> 00:10:54,074 So, to actually work out ways in which you can really engage 179 00:10:54,241 --> 00:10:56,451 with a country and its people... 180 00:10:57,744 --> 00:10:59,997 And we will embrace this opportunity. 181 00:11:00,289 --> 00:11:02,583 This collaboration is a prime example of that. 182 00:11:05,335 --> 00:11:07,421 I'm just looking forward to not just visiting the place, 183 00:11:07,546 --> 00:11:11,258 but actually making some friendships, connections, music. 184 00:11:11,383 --> 00:11:13,302 That's really why we do this, you know? 185 00:11:18,599 --> 00:11:20,100 We should have gone to South Africa 186 00:11:20,225 --> 00:11:21,351 much earlier than we have. 187 00:11:21,476 --> 00:11:25,230 It's one of those things, like, when you haven't got back 188 00:11:25,355 --> 00:11:26,773 to someone who has written to you and you feel so bad 189 00:11:26,940 --> 00:11:28,609 and then you feel so bad that you just leave it, 190 00:11:28,775 --> 00:11:30,611 cos you're scared of it. It's a bit like that. 191 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,574 Thanks to you for being patient. You're great. 192 00:11:35,699 --> 00:11:39,244 And I'm so proud we got to come. I'm really, fucking proud. 193 00:11:42,456 --> 00:11:44,416 One, two... One, two, three, four. 194 00:11:51,673 --> 00:11:52,341 Yeah! 195 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:03,578 Yeah! 196 00:13:14,881 --> 00:13:17,801 Music is the best way that I can communicate. 197 00:13:17,926 --> 00:13:20,053 I've always struggled 198 00:13:20,178 --> 00:13:22,055 saying what I want to say any other way. 199 00:13:22,180 --> 00:13:24,975 You know, sometimes the best way to get to know each other 200 00:13:25,267 --> 00:13:27,185 is to do it with an instrument in your hand 201 00:13:27,311 --> 00:13:30,063 and start telling stories and singing stories. 202 00:13:31,231 --> 00:13:35,235 It's a nice way to go a couple of layers deeper with people. 203 00:13:57,049 --> 00:13:58,300 There's something about a collaboration 204 00:13:58,425 --> 00:14:00,302 that requires certain dynamics, 205 00:14:00,427 --> 00:14:04,056 and we've found there was quite a natural balance 206 00:14:04,181 --> 00:14:07,225 of people bringing different qualities to the table. 207 00:14:12,814 --> 00:14:14,566 We're gonna invite some friends up on the stage 208 00:14:14,691 --> 00:14:16,193 to sing this next one with us. 209 00:14:17,986 --> 00:14:21,323 Please, welcome back Beatenberg The Very Best and Mr Baaba Maal! 210 00:14:21,656 --> 00:14:23,784 It's made this kind of weird super group, 211 00:14:23,950 --> 00:14:26,453 this, like, 1718-person supergroup, 212 00:14:26,578 --> 00:14:28,955 which I'm really enjoying the sound of 213 00:14:29,414 --> 00:14:31,375 Johan is great when he's sober. 214 00:14:31,500 --> 00:14:33,794 He's very productive when he's sober. 215 00:14:34,086 --> 00:14:35,337 Baaba is the king. 216 00:14:36,505 --> 00:14:38,965 Esau is a raw genius. 217 00:14:40,133 --> 00:14:44,054 Jutty is a soulful... loving dude. 218 00:14:44,304 --> 00:14:46,681 He's the sort of guy you'd like as an older brother, I think. 219 00:14:47,265 --> 00:14:49,810 Seye. Seye is a big-match player. 220 00:14:50,143 --> 00:14:53,939 Robin. He's just like a good vibes man. 221 00:14:54,815 --> 00:14:57,609 He's always cracking gags, keeping everyone cheerful. 222 00:14:57,734 --> 00:15:02,697 Ross is very, like, present, concentrating, 223 00:15:02,823 --> 00:15:06,159 and just working, quietly aware of everything. 224 00:15:07,119 --> 00:15:12,666 Matthew is very jazzy, but also a musical genius. 225 00:15:12,999 --> 00:15:17,170 Mamadou is officially the nicest person in music. 226 00:15:18,588 --> 00:15:20,674 The sweetest man maybe I've ever met. 227 00:15:21,591 --> 00:15:23,176 I hope we don't fuck up. 228 00:15:24,094 --> 00:15:26,304 And if we do fuck up, we'll just hide behind Seye. 229 00:15:27,639 --> 00:15:30,183 Actually, this is a great combination of.. 230 00:15:30,809 --> 00:15:33,061 very different personalities. 231 00:15:33,186 --> 00:15:36,690 But all of them work very well together. 232 00:15:37,023 --> 00:15:37,732 Thank you! 233 00:15:41,528 --> 00:15:42,529 We love them very much. 234 00:15:42,696 --> 00:15:44,072 We're getting to spend another whole week 235 00:15:44,197 --> 00:15:46,408 in this wonderful country, touring around with them. 236 00:16:27,657 --> 00:16:30,785 As with any recording process and creative process, 237 00:16:30,952 --> 00:16:32,162 whether you’re on tour or not, 238 00:16:32,287 --> 00:16:35,540 it's like anything that's around you will influence you a lot. 239 00:16:35,665 --> 00:16:38,668 It might be the hotel room that you are stuck in. 240 00:16:38,793 --> 00:16:42,088 You know, it's the thing that influences you. 241 00:16:42,255 --> 00:16:43,298 But if you venture out, 242 00:16:43,423 --> 00:16:47,135 and can get influences from whatever it is you come across 243 00:16:47,260 --> 00:16:49,262 and see and experience, 244 00:16:49,387 --> 00:16:52,098 I think that can have a much bigger impact, actually. 245 00:17:04,611 --> 00:17:07,405 I love going to a place I've never been before. 246 00:17:07,531 --> 00:17:10,784 It gives me such a sense of achievement, 247 00:17:11,076 --> 00:17:14,621 even without doing anything, just going there. 248 00:17:15,622 --> 00:17:18,625 My grandparents lived in Kloof, here. 249 00:17:19,251 --> 00:17:21,711 I guess Dad and his sister 250 00:17:21,836 --> 00:17:23,296 would have come here on their holidays. 251 00:17:23,421 --> 00:17:28,218 The story I heard from Aunty Penny 252 00:17:28,343 --> 00:17:31,304 was that there was some P. W Botha election rally 253 00:17:31,471 --> 00:17:34,599 and he was talking about how you mustn't have interracial... 254 00:17:35,225 --> 00:17:38,728 I think interracial marriage was illegal, and having sex, 255 00:17:39,646 --> 00:17:42,482 interracially, would form mongrels, 256 00:17:42,941 --> 00:17:46,945 which Dad was very loudly heckling. 257 00:17:47,237 --> 00:17:49,489 And then, when P. W Botha said, 258 00:17:49,656 --> 00:17:51,157 "What other country boasts 259 00:17:51,324 --> 00:17:53,451 the roads and infrastructure that we have," 260 00:17:53,577 --> 00:17:56,538 he shouted, "Nazi Germany." And got ushered out. 261 00:17:56,663 --> 00:18:00,250 So, I think my dad's cool for a lot of reasons, 262 00:18:00,375 --> 00:18:02,168 but that is pretty fucking sick. 263 00:18:12,929 --> 00:18:15,724 We went for lunch. We stopped at a hotel, 264 00:18:16,266 --> 00:18:19,853 called the George Hotel, in Eshowe. 265 00:18:21,563 --> 00:18:23,315 We met the guy who runs it, 266 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,358 who apparently I met three years ago 267 00:18:25,483 --> 00:18:29,237 in a pub in Ipswich and he remembered my name. 268 00:18:31,531 --> 00:18:33,783 He's taking us into the heart of Zululand, 269 00:18:34,451 --> 00:18:39,873 to meet a witch doctor, who I think is going to... 270 00:18:40,123 --> 00:18:43,126 Do witch doctors heal us or say prayers for us? 271 00:18:43,585 --> 00:18:45,170 - I think we're gonna find out. - We're going to find out. 272 00:18:45,295 --> 00:18:47,297 He's going to throw some bones. 273 00:18:47,422 --> 00:18:48,882 He's going to throw some bones. 274 00:19:01,478 --> 00:19:02,312 Hey! 275 00:19:05,065 --> 00:19:06,358 These are the herbs 276 00:19:06,608 --> 00:19:10,236 that Michael uses. 277 00:19:10,403 --> 00:19:13,615 Michael has also brought the love potion. 278 00:19:14,407 --> 00:19:18,536 You know, let's say there's this girl that you like. 279 00:19:18,662 --> 00:19:21,748 Then you'll come to Michael and he'll give you something, 280 00:19:21,915 --> 00:19:24,125 so you will put it here on your eyebrows, 281 00:19:24,250 --> 00:19:26,378 then that girl will find you irresistible. 282 00:19:27,295 --> 00:19:28,213 Yeah. 283 00:20:22,475 --> 00:20:24,144 This song's called "There Will Be Time". 284 00:21:34,547 --> 00:21:37,008 When you're on tour you end up in this tittle bubble. 285 00:21:37,300 --> 00:21:40,386 So, the fact that we did the Cape Town show, 286 00:21:40,512 --> 00:21:43,389 the Durban show, at that point, for me, I felt like 287 00:21:43,556 --> 00:21:45,850 all the bands were all in this bubble together. 288 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,604 It kind of bonds you as a family, 289 00:21:49,729 --> 00:21:51,981 for the period that you are all together. 290 00:22:12,335 --> 00:22:15,630 We were all offstage and away from the shows, 291 00:22:16,256 --> 00:22:18,049 engaging pretty deeply 292 00:22:18,174 --> 00:22:21,177 in any element of the cities as we could. 293 00:22:21,928 --> 00:22:23,805 Talking to people, coming back with stories, 294 00:22:23,930 --> 00:22:26,683 having that exchange, going out in the evenings. 295 00:22:26,808 --> 00:22:31,312 And that stuff ends up being a subtext or a kind of basis 296 00:22:31,437 --> 00:22:33,773 for actually recording and making music together. 297 00:22:39,028 --> 00:22:41,781 We felt like we were all there physically. 298 00:22:41,906 --> 00:22:47,579 We were in South Africa, exchanging stories already. 299 00:22:54,043 --> 00:22:56,713 I think there's a real bond, everyone's on really good form. 300 00:22:56,838 --> 00:22:59,716 It felt like we were ready to kind of start writing songs, 301 00:22:59,841 --> 00:23:01,134 and getting on with it. 302 00:23:33,499 --> 00:23:34,584 Thank you! 303 00:23:40,924 --> 00:23:42,008 Colin, the manager. 304 00:23:42,383 --> 00:23:43,801 - Hey, boys. - Hi. 305 00:23:50,099 --> 00:23:51,351 There's nary a body in here. 306 00:23:53,645 --> 00:23:54,687 Lads! 307 00:23:55,563 --> 00:23:56,606 Lads! 308 00:23:59,108 --> 00:24:00,318 Johan! 309 00:24:05,531 --> 00:24:06,866 I lost you. 310 00:24:08,201 --> 00:24:10,453 We are at the South Africa Broadcast Centre. 311 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:14,707 It's a bit weird, it was built in the '70s. 312 00:24:14,999 --> 00:24:16,709 '60s, '70s. I don't know. 313 00:24:19,003 --> 00:24:20,463 No windows anywhere. 314 00:24:20,588 --> 00:24:21,881 No one ever knows what time it is, 315 00:24:22,048 --> 00:24:23,341 which I think is intentional. 316 00:24:28,429 --> 00:24:30,056 The rooms definitely sound good, 317 00:24:30,223 --> 00:24:33,476 cos they're ail wood and dead, 318 00:24:33,601 --> 00:24:34,644 which is kind of important. 319 00:24:38,773 --> 00:24:40,108 This is the exciting bit. 320 00:24:41,734 --> 00:24:43,903 I don't know why everybody's so nervous about this. 321 00:24:44,362 --> 00:24:46,155 This'll be fine. It'll be fine. 322 00:24:47,031 --> 00:24:49,242 There's a lot of really confusing corridors. 323 00:24:50,410 --> 00:24:53,579 I think it's good because it means there's no distractions. 324 00:24:54,664 --> 00:24:56,666 You literally have to go through airport security 325 00:24:56,791 --> 00:24:58,209 to get in and out of the building, so... 326 00:24:58,334 --> 00:25:02,088 It's easier just to sit and play another musical idea 327 00:25:02,255 --> 00:25:04,215 than it is to go outside and get some fresh air 328 00:25:04,340 --> 00:25:06,259 which, when you've only got two days to record 329 00:25:06,676 --> 00:25:08,803 some sort of record, 330 00:25:09,762 --> 00:25:11,764 is a healthy thing. 331 00:25:31,284 --> 00:25:34,704 I don't think it's gonna mess with anyone's creativity. 332 00:25:34,912 --> 00:25:37,457 It puts you in a situation where you're out of your comfort zone 333 00:25:37,623 --> 00:25:39,751 and everybody is equally out of their comfort zone, 334 00:25:39,876 --> 00:25:42,462 so everybody is kind of equally shocked, in a way. 335 00:25:42,587 --> 00:25:45,256 And I think shocking can be really good to creativity. 336 00:25:51,387 --> 00:25:54,348 For us, music is as much a social project 337 00:25:54,474 --> 00:25:57,143 as it is a technical one, you know? 338 00:25:58,144 --> 00:25:59,771 We've got a bunch of engineers. 339 00:25:59,896 --> 00:26:02,982 We've got Dan and Joel, Johan and Ben, 340 00:26:03,149 --> 00:26:06,027 who can all engineer recording sessions. 341 00:26:06,152 --> 00:26:07,737 And then we've got amazing musicians 342 00:26:07,862 --> 00:26:11,574 who can lead, like, jams, and rehearsals, 343 00:26:11,699 --> 00:26:13,159 and come up with ideas. 344 00:26:13,326 --> 00:26:14,577 Then we've got writers as well. 345 00:26:14,702 --> 00:26:17,663 So, we know we've got the potential to do something cool. 346 00:26:18,331 --> 00:26:21,042 Then it's about logistically whether it can happen. 347 00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:25,588 I'm pretty apprehensive. 348 00:26:25,713 --> 00:26:27,840 It could just be like loads of little drum patterns. 349 00:26:28,466 --> 00:26:29,342 Some random... 350 00:26:31,260 --> 00:26:34,388 ...jokes, melodies that don't make any sense on top. 351 00:26:34,639 --> 00:26:36,974 Could be awful. Could be awful. 352 00:26:41,020 --> 00:26:43,231 For some musicians, everything has to be planned 353 00:26:43,356 --> 00:26:45,399 but here, we don't have a plan B, D... 354 00:26:45,525 --> 00:26:48,486 We have ideas. Everyone came with different ideas, 355 00:26:48,611 --> 00:26:51,781 and we just put it in the same place 356 00:26:51,906 --> 00:26:53,324 and make it happen, I think. 357 00:26:54,033 --> 00:26:56,035 That's the thing. Everyone wants to give something, 358 00:26:56,202 --> 00:26:58,871 everyone can bring some ideas. 359 00:26:59,622 --> 00:27:03,584 Maybe it's too many ideas, also, to put together. 360 00:27:04,043 --> 00:27:05,711 But this is how it should be. 361 00:27:09,298 --> 00:27:12,051 I don't think that "dah dah dah dah"... or like... 362 00:27:12,218 --> 00:27:13,928 Do you think that should run through the chords as well? 363 00:27:14,220 --> 00:27:16,430 - What, that? - No, no. 364 00:27:16,556 --> 00:27:19,684 It's rare. We're supposed to go in the studio 365 00:27:19,809 --> 00:27:21,185 and our plan is to make two songs. 366 00:27:22,186 --> 00:27:23,479 Maybe two instrumentals. 367 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,775 Cos there's four bands in there and it's complicated. 368 00:27:27,900 --> 00:27:31,237 It's like two studios... It's like everything is against us. 369 00:27:33,656 --> 00:27:34,949 What the fuck was that? 370 00:27:35,616 --> 00:27:36,576 What was that? 371 00:27:38,286 --> 00:27:39,996 Is that breaking up with you loads? 372 00:27:40,121 --> 00:27:41,414 That's nasty. 373 00:27:43,166 --> 00:27:45,751 Nothing seemed to work, even though they had these 374 00:27:45,877 --> 00:27:48,921 really elaborate set-ups and desks and everything. 375 00:27:49,213 --> 00:27:51,591 Every time we plugged something in, it crackled and popped. 376 00:27:52,133 --> 00:27:56,095 So, I think Dan's probably lost a few years of his life, 377 00:27:56,220 --> 00:27:57,096 unfortunately. 378 00:27:59,557 --> 00:28:01,601 Yeah, it kind of comes with the territory, I guess. 379 00:28:01,726 --> 00:28:04,604 - So, it's not the amp. - No. 380 00:28:05,646 --> 00:28:10,359 I think there's a lot of worrying from people 381 00:28:11,569 --> 00:28:13,446 who's been here for days trying to set it up. 382 00:28:13,571 --> 00:28:15,489 You know, Dan, Beth, Joel... 383 00:28:16,032 --> 00:28:17,617 You know, there's always ways around it. 384 00:28:18,367 --> 00:28:20,411 Cool, we've figured out how to do it. 385 00:28:20,536 --> 00:28:21,329 Great. 386 00:28:21,454 --> 00:28:22,955 We 're cutting out the control room. 387 00:28:23,456 --> 00:28:25,208 That is coming down and going straight into me. 388 00:28:25,333 --> 00:28:26,292 Wicked. 389 00:28:26,417 --> 00:28:29,712 And we're setting up the same scenario thing in there, 390 00:28:30,004 --> 00:28:31,756 on my other laptop that Dan will run. 391 00:28:31,881 --> 00:28:33,716 Luckily, Johan had the idea ages ago 392 00:28:33,841 --> 00:28:35,384 when we were sorting this out. 393 00:28:35,509 --> 00:28:38,012 He's going to bring his own mobile recording set-up, 394 00:28:38,137 --> 00:28:40,097 so, if all else fails, we can record through him. 395 00:28:40,223 --> 00:28:42,141 So, we're using all their really posh gear, 396 00:28:42,475 --> 00:28:43,559 going into a laptop. 397 00:28:43,976 --> 00:28:45,937 Thank goodness for, like, modern recording! 398 00:28:46,062 --> 00:28:48,981 That was a very natural rehearsal room 399 00:28:49,273 --> 00:28:51,817 and that was a very natural set-up recording room. 400 00:28:52,109 --> 00:28:53,986 The rehearsal room still worked 401 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,489 as a place where people jammed out ideas. 402 00:28:57,573 --> 00:28:58,824 There will be multi-track recording. 403 00:28:59,116 --> 00:29:02,245 Dan Grech will be in there, Joel will be in there, 404 00:29:02,995 --> 00:29:04,247 capturing everything. 405 00:29:04,372 --> 00:29:07,166 It's like writing, tracking basic ideas. 406 00:29:07,458 --> 00:29:09,001 The room that I was working in, 407 00:29:09,126 --> 00:29:11,254 where me and Marcus would be most of the time, 408 00:29:11,379 --> 00:29:12,713 receiving some of the songs, 409 00:29:13,297 --> 00:29:14,966 getting players in from their session 410 00:29:15,549 --> 00:29:18,928 and adding things to that and building tracks more properly 411 00:29:19,053 --> 00:29:20,554 as you were doing a production. 412 00:29:25,184 --> 00:29:27,061 A lot of the time there were two different atmospheres. 413 00:29:27,186 --> 00:29:29,772 There was like a quite serious, professional, 414 00:29:31,315 --> 00:29:35,444 rootsy thing going on in the live room. 415 00:29:35,569 --> 00:29:38,906 Then in the other room, we were, like, 416 00:29:39,031 --> 00:29:43,536 trying out weird hip-hop beats, screaming, jumping around 417 00:29:43,703 --> 00:29:45,288 and drinking loads of beer. 418 00:30:04,015 --> 00:30:06,475 There was a really interesting flow of energy 419 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,394 and people's productivity. 420 00:30:08,561 --> 00:30:10,021 We had time limitations. 421 00:30:10,146 --> 00:30:13,149 There wasn't necessarily enough flexibility 422 00:30:13,274 --> 00:30:15,735 for us to kind of take long breaks. 423 00:30:16,736 --> 00:30:19,905 I noticed people would start getting on cycles of pairings 424 00:30:20,031 --> 00:30:21,699 and groups of threes or fours. 425 00:30:21,824 --> 00:30:24,243 Then someone would take the lead and someone would sit back. 426 00:30:24,410 --> 00:30:27,371 And that was happening just entirely naturally. 427 00:30:27,496 --> 00:30:29,832 None of that was discussed beforehand. 428 00:30:29,957 --> 00:30:31,125 It's three, right? 429 00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:34,795 Yeah. 430 00:30:38,924 --> 00:30:41,177 That'd be cool to have a fill into that. 431 00:30:46,724 --> 00:30:47,600 Come on, then. 432 00:30:56,776 --> 00:31:00,279 Baaba... On the "aaah", the first one, 433 00:31:00,446 --> 00:31:01,697 can you start it with full voice? 434 00:31:06,619 --> 00:31:09,163 I'll edit together like the dream take, 435 00:31:09,288 --> 00:31:10,748 and tomorrow he'll listen to it 436 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,458 and he learns it and he'll do it. 437 00:31:12,625 --> 00:31:15,002 In a couple of takes it'll sound fucking amazing. 438 00:31:17,546 --> 00:31:19,131 Bro. See you tomorrow. 439 00:31:26,389 --> 00:31:27,390 Oh, yes. 440 00:31:27,515 --> 00:31:30,309 - This is damn... - I'm a Masai. 441 00:31:31,143 --> 00:31:32,770 - And you’re a size 13? - Exactly. 442 00:31:34,230 --> 00:31:35,689 - Exercise. - Yeah. 443 00:31:37,191 --> 00:31:37,858 Bah! 444 00:31:37,983 --> 00:31:40,403 He nicked it. Johan has to be cold all night. 445 00:31:40,528 --> 00:31:42,154 He's 76 years old. 446 00:31:43,989 --> 00:31:46,951 - Can you believe that? - He looks good, though. 447 00:31:47,076 --> 00:31:50,287 - Septuagenarian. - A septuagenarian. 448 00:31:50,413 --> 00:31:52,331 Unbelievable. Unbelievable. 449 00:31:52,456 --> 00:31:53,916 - Wow! - You look great. 450 00:31:54,667 --> 00:31:57,378 The first days have been really fun. 451 00:31:58,546 --> 00:31:59,588 Win was bummed out. 452 00:32:00,005 --> 00:32:01,924 He was pissed off at the end of the day. 453 00:32:02,758 --> 00:32:04,844 But he gets stressed out about everything, so... 454 00:32:06,262 --> 00:32:10,808 Firstly, that building is the most depressing building ever. 455 00:32:11,684 --> 00:32:15,688 I didn't see daylight for 60... or fucking all day. 456 00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:18,524 And nothing worked. 457 00:32:19,567 --> 00:32:21,026 I was standing back just thinking, 458 00:32:21,193 --> 00:32:24,447 Joel and Dan, Johan, Ben would all sort it out. 459 00:32:24,738 --> 00:32:25,865 I just believed in them. 460 00:32:26,157 --> 00:32:28,117 So, it wasn't realty stressful for me cos I wasn't the one 461 00:32:28,242 --> 00:32:29,702 actually having to sort it out. 462 00:32:29,869 --> 00:32:31,370 I was a bit wiped out. 463 00:32:31,579 --> 00:32:35,040 We'd all committed pretty heavily to the whole project, 464 00:32:35,207 --> 00:32:37,376 but especially to Johannesburg and the recording. 465 00:32:37,543 --> 00:32:40,838 And just before we went back to our hotel rooms, 466 00:32:40,963 --> 00:32:43,257 at the end of the night we did say 467 00:32:43,382 --> 00:32:47,178 that we've got to try and find a different way tomorrow. 468 00:32:47,303 --> 00:32:48,846 We have to come away with something. 469 00:32:50,764 --> 00:32:52,766 I think we were there till, like, 5am, 470 00:32:52,933 --> 00:32:54,977 working out which things worked, which things didn't. 471 00:32:55,102 --> 00:32:57,229 Today we can actually go, 472 00:32:57,396 --> 00:32:59,106 "Right, this stuff works, let's use this." 473 00:32:59,398 --> 00:33:01,817 So later on this afternoon, we'll be able to record. 474 00:33:01,942 --> 00:33:04,069 It will be great. We're just behind, that's all. 475 00:33:04,195 --> 00:33:04,904 Cool. 476 00:33:05,070 --> 00:33:06,655 And the fun thing will be the rehearsal room. 477 00:33:06,780 --> 00:33:08,782 Time is a bit of the essence cos we've got Baaba Maal here, 478 00:33:08,908 --> 00:33:10,618 we've got Esau from our band here. 479 00:33:10,743 --> 00:33:12,495 And I don't know the next time 480 00:33:12,620 --> 00:33:14,705 when we're gonna be able to record with them. 481 00:33:14,997 --> 00:33:16,248 So, the priority right now 482 00:33:16,373 --> 00:33:18,125 is getting the structures of the songs down, 483 00:33:18,250 --> 00:33:19,793 just so that they can do their vocals on them. 484 00:33:20,085 --> 00:33:22,421 Sorry to interrupt. Do you know what's gonna happen today? 485 00:33:22,546 --> 00:33:23,714 - What? - We're gonna die happy. 486 00:33:23,839 --> 00:33:27,635 We're gonna hear Baaba's scream in an anechoic chamber. 487 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,261 Oh, my God, that'd be amazing. 488 00:33:31,347 --> 00:33:32,348 - But dead. - Yeah. 489 00:33:32,473 --> 00:33:33,557 That'll be saucy. 490 00:33:33,682 --> 00:33:35,392 We have to... I'll talk to you about it. 491 00:33:35,518 --> 00:33:37,019 Where is he? 492 00:33:43,567 --> 00:33:46,237 I think assembling the right group of people 493 00:33:46,362 --> 00:33:47,821 is half the work. 494 00:33:48,697 --> 00:33:51,075 And having the right attitude in that group. 495 00:33:51,450 --> 00:33:53,619 But then you know that Baaba is going to sing something 496 00:33:53,786 --> 00:33:55,788 that'll blow your socks off at some point. 497 00:33:55,955 --> 00:33:58,123 You know that Mamadou is going to be able to play 498 00:33:58,290 --> 00:33:59,917 rhythms that you want to hear. 499 00:34:01,001 --> 00:34:04,129 And you know that Matt, Seye, Winston, 500 00:34:04,296 --> 00:34:06,507 all can play really sick guitars. 501 00:34:07,299 --> 00:34:09,134 And everyone can write out of that whole group. 502 00:34:09,301 --> 00:34:10,970 So, that's where we get... 503 00:34:11,136 --> 00:34:12,471 And then just straight to... 504 00:34:13,597 --> 00:34:14,306 Oh, cool, OK. 505 00:34:14,431 --> 00:34:15,808 So, no atmosphere. 506 00:34:15,975 --> 00:34:19,144 - No, no, no. No sixth. - OK. 507 00:34:19,311 --> 00:34:20,521 Can you just play that again? 508 00:34:21,272 --> 00:34:22,398 It's always so fascinating 509 00:34:22,523 --> 00:34:23,941 doing a collaboration with anyone. 510 00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:25,693 Even more so when there's a sort 511 00:34:25,985 --> 00:34:27,611 of cross-cultural thing happening. 512 00:34:27,736 --> 00:34:30,406 Because the last thing we wanted to feel like 513 00:34:30,531 --> 00:34:33,284 is some sort of cultural exchange, or something. 514 00:34:33,409 --> 00:34:35,035 Like that. It sounds really dry. 515 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,163 It's actually just a really genuinely interesting 516 00:34:38,330 --> 00:34:42,001 and useful thing, I think, for musicians to share ideas. 517 00:34:42,293 --> 00:34:44,253 You learn a lot when you're sort of like 518 00:34:44,378 --> 00:34:48,382 not in your usual sort of rabbit runs of making music. 519 00:34:50,676 --> 00:34:53,679 And then the next time, after the chorus, we'll do your bit. 520 00:34:53,804 --> 00:34:55,306 Yeah, yeah. 521 00:34:55,431 --> 00:34:57,433 - The short one. - Yeah, the shorty. 522 00:34:57,558 --> 00:34:59,935 And then after the next chorus we just do the long one. 523 00:35:00,060 --> 00:35:00,686 Yeah. 524 00:35:00,853 --> 00:35:02,396 The shorty is still twice over there, isn't it? 525 00:35:02,813 --> 00:35:03,606 I think so, yeah. 526 00:35:14,450 --> 00:35:17,369 In that kind of insecure environment, 527 00:35:17,536 --> 00:35:19,705 where people are throwing out stuff, 528 00:35:19,872 --> 00:35:21,040 not knowing if it's good or not 529 00:35:21,165 --> 00:35:23,334 but just sort of saying maybe it's all about that. 530 00:35:23,459 --> 00:35:25,711 There needs to be a real level of trust. 531 00:35:27,129 --> 00:35:29,340 If the guy makes a break on the counter, 532 00:35:29,465 --> 00:35:30,758 and he's making a run up the fields, 533 00:35:31,050 --> 00:35:32,343 you should probably go with him. 534 00:35:52,905 --> 00:35:56,450 That's why he's the best. He just proved it. Again. 535 00:35:58,994 --> 00:36:00,371 This is more of a... 536 00:36:00,746 --> 00:36:02,247 This is a bit more of a..."prrrp". 537 00:36:04,875 --> 00:36:06,251 Oh, yeah, this machine. 538 00:36:06,377 --> 00:36:09,672 It's not really for everybody. It's more adventurous. 539 00:36:09,963 --> 00:36:12,883 But it's got such sounds as Matt just produced. 540 00:36:13,342 --> 00:36:14,802 Also a little bit... 541 00:36:30,776 --> 00:36:32,361 The beans are from Brazil, they're good. 542 00:36:32,486 --> 00:36:34,530 Not as good as the beans my brother roasts. 543 00:36:35,072 --> 00:36:36,156 The last one I had was from... 544 00:36:39,576 --> 00:36:41,370 Things have shaped up pretty quickly today. 545 00:36:41,954 --> 00:36:44,832 And the song feels like a song now, which is cool. 546 00:36:45,624 --> 00:36:47,960 There's still work to do, still some lyrics to finish, 547 00:36:48,127 --> 00:36:50,129 and stuff like that but I think it's good. 548 00:36:56,051 --> 00:36:57,553 Because there was no phone signal, there was no way 549 00:36:57,678 --> 00:37:00,139 of communicating that something was actually happening now. 550 00:37:00,264 --> 00:37:06,270 So you end up forming mini-teams or micro-alliances, 551 00:37:06,395 --> 00:37:09,398 where you're like, "Let's go and get the core 552 00:37:09,523 --> 00:37:10,774 of something moving." 553 00:37:10,899 --> 00:37:13,610 So, if anyone were to walk into the room, 554 00:37:13,736 --> 00:37:17,489 we would be on a path that was inevitable with something. 555 00:37:17,656 --> 00:37:19,158 This is now like a competition 556 00:37:19,324 --> 00:37:21,493 between who's the most organised room. 557 00:37:24,037 --> 00:37:25,330 So, do you think the longer melody, 558 00:37:25,456 --> 00:37:26,498 the first melody is better? 559 00:37:26,665 --> 00:37:29,126 The first melody kind of sold it a little bit more for me. 560 00:37:29,251 --> 00:37:30,419 They're both really good, though. 561 00:37:30,544 --> 00:37:32,129 None that are made, like, exaggerated, 562 00:37:32,254 --> 00:37:33,797 or took away from the rhythm. 563 00:37:34,089 --> 00:37:36,341 OK, so we need Seye, we need Mamadou. 564 00:37:37,843 --> 00:37:39,094 Let's get all this down. 565 00:37:39,511 --> 00:37:42,473 Then take five minutes together to build something extra. 566 00:37:42,598 --> 00:37:43,348 Let's do that. 567 00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:48,979 - Something in that? - Yeah, man. 568 00:37:49,104 --> 00:37:50,022 Yeah, man? 569 00:37:51,398 --> 00:37:53,609 - Don't let it go to waste, man. - Not go to waste, man. 570 00:37:53,859 --> 00:37:55,027 We're not gonna waste it. 571 00:37:56,945 --> 00:37:59,615 I get a sense of awe, I get a sense of, wow, 572 00:37:59,740 --> 00:38:01,992 really watching someone create something beautiful. 573 00:38:02,242 --> 00:38:06,205 It's not something you get to get a window into very much. 574 00:38:06,622 --> 00:38:08,707 Watching other people’s processes is interesting. 575 00:38:19,635 --> 00:38:23,180 The way Baaba and Esau write is so just right there. 576 00:38:23,305 --> 00:38:25,682 They don’t plan anything, really, in advance 577 00:38:25,808 --> 00:38:29,186 and that's quite inspiring for people like us, 578 00:38:29,311 --> 00:38:31,814 who like to write everything in advance of going into a studio. 579 00:38:34,107 --> 00:38:35,734 I think hanging out with them made us realise 580 00:38:36,068 --> 00:38:39,404 it's cool to write just right there, on the microphone. 581 00:38:39,571 --> 00:38:43,075 Just quickly scribbling, like, lyrics down. 582 00:38:43,242 --> 00:38:45,869 And I think it's about creating an atmosphere, 583 00:38:46,537 --> 00:38:48,872 from which that creativity can rise. 584 00:38:49,665 --> 00:38:52,668 Cos if we were all in, like, Dalston, right now, 585 00:38:53,377 --> 00:38:55,295 we wouldn't have made the kind of music that we just made. 586 00:38:57,464 --> 00:38:58,841 How does it start again? 587 00:39:00,384 --> 00:39:01,468 One second. 588 00:39:01,593 --> 00:39:04,137 What if it just started with like a... 589 00:39:04,930 --> 00:39:06,765 Either like the first... 590 00:39:06,890 --> 00:39:08,100 What's the first chord of the song? 591 00:39:09,268 --> 00:39:11,770 Yeah. With just like that, a chord held, 592 00:39:12,062 --> 00:39:14,439 and you just do some kind of "deserty"... 593 00:39:14,606 --> 00:39:16,275 You know how we start Baaba often. He just... 594 00:39:16,441 --> 00:39:18,610 He's talking about the E-bow, or something like that. 595 00:39:18,777 --> 00:39:22,781 And Baaba just does his big massive vocal intro thing. 596 00:39:27,244 --> 00:39:29,121 And then it's like when the cue comes, 597 00:39:29,246 --> 00:39:34,626 that's when the drum starts, like an intro, basically. 598 00:39:37,212 --> 00:39:39,923 What's particularly great about everyone on this tour 599 00:39:40,424 --> 00:39:43,302 is that, like, I'm certainly in awe of everyone. 600 00:39:43,427 --> 00:39:47,097 Someone like Baaba, you're kind of there just as a fan, 601 00:39:47,222 --> 00:39:48,223 as much as anything else. 602 00:39:48,348 --> 00:39:51,643 It's raw talent. It just feels like the ultimate privilege. 603 00:40:26,178 --> 00:40:30,390 I was asking you, "How do you feel to be in Africa?" 604 00:40:30,515 --> 00:40:34,353 And you ended up saying you did travel a lot, 605 00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:36,855 but when you come to Africa, there are so many things 606 00:40:37,022 --> 00:40:38,148 that come to your face. 607 00:40:38,482 --> 00:40:41,068 So many people, so many flavours, 608 00:40:41,193 --> 00:40:45,697 so many colours, so many smells, the food, and everything. 609 00:40:45,864 --> 00:40:47,658 - In one day, you get a lot. - Yeah. 610 00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:50,202 This is a good experience, you know? 611 00:40:50,327 --> 00:40:53,664 Travelling, I think, that's the biggest lesson of life. 612 00:40:54,331 --> 00:40:55,624 It's my favourite thing about it. 613 00:40:55,749 --> 00:40:57,876 In fact, that's why I have... My first tattoo was "Tour". 614 00:40:58,126 --> 00:41:00,379 - "Tour"? OK. - Same thing, just travel. 615 00:41:00,504 --> 00:41:01,505 - Travel, yeah. - Seeing everything. 616 00:41:01,630 --> 00:41:04,758 What are you going to take back from here to Senegal? 617 00:41:05,384 --> 00:41:08,804 You know, I have been coming to South Africa a lot 618 00:41:08,929 --> 00:41:11,598 but this time is really exceptional. 619 00:41:11,723 --> 00:41:14,893 It's all that's happening behind the stage. 620 00:41:15,227 --> 00:41:16,770 This kind of friendship, 621 00:41:16,895 --> 00:41:19,815 or projecting ourselves to the future. 622 00:41:20,524 --> 00:41:22,651 - Everyone is... - Are we friends? 623 00:41:22,776 --> 00:41:25,404 Yeah, yeah. Of course we're friends. 624 00:41:25,737 --> 00:41:26,780 Baaba's my mate. 625 00:41:54,141 --> 00:41:55,767 I think we've always considered 626 00:41:55,934 --> 00:41:58,854 all of our albums as snapshots. 627 00:41:58,979 --> 00:42:00,272 They're just a really nice way 628 00:42:00,439 --> 00:42:02,607 to take a picture of that moment in time. 629 00:42:05,110 --> 00:42:08,280 I feel like we could easily be in London right now. 630 00:42:08,405 --> 00:42:09,781 We could be in New York, we could be in LA. 631 00:42:10,449 --> 00:42:13,618 I think there is a massive misinterpretation of... 632 00:42:13,744 --> 00:42:17,289 Not misinterpretation, but I think there's a... 633 00:42:18,123 --> 00:42:21,752 an unfair brushstroke across the whole of Johannesburg, 634 00:42:22,335 --> 00:42:24,921 as kind of a, "You can't walk on the streets." 635 00:42:25,047 --> 00:42:26,465 It's the first thing everyone... Yeah. 636 00:42:26,631 --> 00:42:28,800 There is a lot of fear-mongering around, isn't there? 637 00:42:29,134 --> 00:42:31,053 It's what everyone says to you.♪ "Oh, be careful. " 638 00:42:31,178 --> 00:42:33,472 The younger people in Johannesburg right now 639 00:42:33,638 --> 00:42:38,977 are really trying to take a huge amount of pride 640 00:42:39,102 --> 00:42:42,981 in redefining that perception of their city. 641 00:42:43,482 --> 00:42:45,192 And that's pretty exhilarating. 642 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,821 Those conversations are pretty amazing to be around, really. 643 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,656 People want to do something about it. 644 00:42:53,575 --> 00:42:56,745 That hunger and that desire that we can see in their eyes, 645 00:42:57,037 --> 00:42:58,747 and their passion for what 646 00:42:59,414 --> 00:43:04,169 Johannesburg, and South Africa, more broadly, can become. 647 00:43:04,795 --> 00:43:07,130 We can have a part in that. 648 00:43:22,062 --> 00:43:26,191 I think song-writing lyrics is probably the hardest part. 649 00:43:26,316 --> 00:43:28,110 It's the most common place 650 00:43:28,235 --> 00:43:30,153 where I see people struggle under pressure. 651 00:43:31,780 --> 00:43:34,658 That mounting pressure of time, 652 00:43:34,783 --> 00:43:36,827 people are waiting and all this stuff, 653 00:43:36,952 --> 00:43:39,329 for most peopie, it doesn't do anything good 654 00:43:39,454 --> 00:43:40,622 for the writing process. 655 00:43:40,747 --> 00:43:41,665 Especially if you're just missing 656 00:43:41,790 --> 00:43:43,291 this last little bit or something. 657 00:43:57,305 --> 00:43:59,224 Having two days to make a record 658 00:43:59,349 --> 00:44:00,475 is a massive challenge. 659 00:44:00,725 --> 00:44:02,769 I think we feit like the vibe was going to be fine, 660 00:44:02,894 --> 00:44:04,354 that the playing would be fine. 661 00:44:04,479 --> 00:44:05,397 It was more the writing. 662 00:44:05,564 --> 00:44:09,901 That "da-da-da", that's for the Esau-Baaba thing. 663 00:44:10,068 --> 00:44:10,944 It's high at the end. 664 00:44:12,779 --> 00:44:14,239 I think Baaba and Esau have 665 00:44:14,364 --> 00:44:18,368 a lot more up their sleeves than they lead us to beiieve. 666 00:44:20,245 --> 00:44:22,080 I asked Baaba what one iine was 667 00:44:22,205 --> 00:44:24,499 and he said, "That's a nursery rhyme." 668 00:44:25,417 --> 00:44:26,751 I was like, "Fuck you, man. " 669 00:44:28,336 --> 00:44:30,922 I just started singing about Humpty Dumpty. 670 00:44:31,214 --> 00:44:33,925 But he gets away with it, it's briiliant. 671 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,679 And also, I think Senegalese nursery rhymes 672 00:44:37,804 --> 00:44:39,639 are way more civilised and sophisticated 673 00:44:39,764 --> 00:44:41,474 than old English ones. 674 00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:44,686 There's a mad rush, and we only got so much time, 675 00:44:44,811 --> 00:44:47,397 and we have to get all this stuff done. 676 00:44:47,522 --> 00:44:48,732 At the same time, 677 00:44:49,274 --> 00:44:52,068 ifone person is sensitive to thatpressure, 678 00:44:52,194 --> 00:44:53,653 you have to be reaily sensitive with thatperson, 679 00:44:53,778 --> 00:44:55,488 allow thatperson to go away 680 00:44:55,614 --> 00:44:57,949 and have a bit of time to do their thing. 681 00:45:01,620 --> 00:45:02,662 So, if I get this right, 682 00:45:02,787 --> 00:45:04,456 we're not leaving here until we have it done. 683 00:45:04,623 --> 00:45:06,041 - No. - Is that... Is that... 684 00:45:06,166 --> 00:45:07,417 We can do other shit, like, 685 00:45:07,542 --> 00:45:09,252 if you want to go away and write something. 686 00:45:10,503 --> 00:45:12,130 - Maybe we should do like that. - Yeah. 687 00:45:12,297 --> 00:45:14,674 There's a lot of other shit we can do with Baaba. 688 00:45:14,799 --> 00:45:18,136 Yeah. That'll take a bit of pressure off. 689 00:45:18,303 --> 00:45:20,096 We don't want to put you under pressure. 690 00:45:20,222 --> 00:45:21,848 - But it makes it easy. - It makes it easy. 691 00:45:22,140 --> 00:45:24,935 - Pressure makes it easy, or... - OK, let's do half an hour. 692 00:45:25,685 --> 00:45:26,811 We'll see you at 10.30. 693 00:45:26,978 --> 00:45:28,063 - 10.30? - Yeah. 694 00:45:29,814 --> 00:45:30,899 Yeah, exactly. 695 00:45:31,191 --> 00:45:32,817 I'm going out now. 696 00:45:33,568 --> 00:45:36,154 - I feel like a walk, too. - OK, let's go for a walk. 697 00:46:40,051 --> 00:46:43,305 I think having a time pressure on iyrics is really helpful. 698 00:46:45,265 --> 00:46:47,392 Sometimes the first idea is the best idea. 699 00:46:47,559 --> 00:46:50,353 The longeryou have to dwell on the lyric, 700 00:46:50,478 --> 00:46:53,315 the more calculated it can become, 701 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:54,524 and the iess powerful. 702 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,902 And so, having a time pressure on it, 703 00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:59,612 the writing of it can be reaily helpfui, 704 00:46:59,738 --> 00:47:03,074 because it forces you to go with ideas that come out first. 705 00:47:05,577 --> 00:47:07,495 When we are in one room 706 00:47:07,620 --> 00:47:09,372 and we know something eise is happening in another room, 707 00:47:09,497 --> 00:47:11,541 we completely trust that what's going on in the other room 708 00:47:11,666 --> 00:47:12,917 isn't a waste of time. 709 00:47:22,385 --> 00:47:23,511 Keep going, keep going. 710 00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:29,100 There was a moment when Winston, 711 00:47:29,768 --> 00:47:35,190 who realty spearheaded this "Fool You've Landed"song idea 712 00:47:35,315 --> 00:47:37,359 was trying to kind of navigate, 713 00:47:37,484 --> 00:47:41,696 or really react to all these other ideas 714 00:47:41,988 --> 00:47:45,492 that ended up kind of infusing into the song. 715 00:47:46,409 --> 00:47:49,579 Is the guitar part over the chorus? 716 00:47:50,121 --> 00:47:51,414 - No. - Guessed so. 717 00:47:52,082 --> 00:47:54,626 When someone finds himself taking on a role, 718 00:47:54,793 --> 00:47:56,711 in a moment of captaining a ship, 719 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,798 they need that sort of first mate or they need that iike... 720 00:48:00,507 --> 00:48:04,427 They need a soundboard, someone's got to back them up. 721 00:48:05,136 --> 00:48:06,971 We need some strong counter-melodies. 722 00:48:08,139 --> 00:48:11,267 And a very short guitar solo at the end. 723 00:48:12,310 --> 00:48:14,020 - I only do long ones. - Oh, OK. 724 00:48:16,398 --> 00:48:17,899 - Do it really fast. - OK. 725 00:48:44,259 --> 00:48:45,343 Shit... 726 00:48:46,177 --> 00:48:47,720 The "doesn't matter" part, I need to get. 727 00:48:48,012 --> 00:48:49,764 Yeah. That's gonna be be fucking sick. 728 00:48:50,056 --> 00:48:51,015 Fucking sick. 729 00:48:51,766 --> 00:48:52,934 Yeah! 730 00:48:53,184 --> 00:48:55,019 - Sexy. - Yeah. 731 00:48:55,186 --> 00:48:56,354 And we're all sexy people. 732 00:49:16,958 --> 00:49:18,543 I should be recording your demo takes 733 00:49:18,668 --> 00:49:19,544 because that's amazing. 734 00:49:29,596 --> 00:49:31,097 Johan, this way! 735 00:49:31,848 --> 00:49:33,141 - Huh? - You're this way. 736 00:49:37,061 --> 00:49:37,729 Knackered. 737 00:49:39,522 --> 00:49:40,523 We're getting there. 738 00:49:42,108 --> 00:49:43,109 We're getting there. 739 00:49:44,569 --> 00:49:45,570 Getting there. 740 00:50:17,810 --> 00:50:20,021 I think everyone was being slightly... 741 00:50:20,605 --> 00:50:23,233 What's the word? I think they were... 742 00:50:23,358 --> 00:50:25,026 Hedging their bets a little bit, 743 00:50:25,151 --> 00:50:27,820 and saying, "As long as we've got stuff to take home, 744 00:50:27,946 --> 00:50:31,282 and work on when we get back to London, that would be great." 745 00:50:31,407 --> 00:50:32,784 But we're kind of arriving at a point now 746 00:50:32,951 --> 00:50:34,244 where we've been doing live takes, 747 00:50:34,369 --> 00:50:36,955 getting bass and drums down 748 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,123 and making sure we've got all of, iike, 749 00:50:39,290 --> 00:50:42,794 Baaba Maal, Esau and those guys who aren't in London so much. 750 00:50:42,919 --> 00:50:45,838 And we're gonna try and focus on getting their stuff recorded, 751 00:50:45,964 --> 00:50:48,132 but being the bass player 752 00:50:48,258 --> 00:50:49,634 there's really very little left for me to do 753 00:50:49,801 --> 00:50:51,970 apart from sort of crack on with it. 754 00:50:52,095 --> 00:50:55,557 You know what I mean, just get the old vino flowing. 755 00:50:55,682 --> 00:50:58,518 Just feel great and enjoy Johannesburg. 756 00:50:58,643 --> 00:50:59,394 Ooh, yeah! 757 00:51:43,021 --> 00:51:45,773 We got so much shit done. It was awesome. 758 00:51:46,065 --> 00:51:48,067 It was actualiy the first day that was hard, 759 00:51:48,192 --> 00:51:50,445 because everyone was trying to work out theirplace 760 00:51:50,570 --> 00:51:51,904 and their role. 761 00:51:52,655 --> 00:51:55,283 Everyone was just iike, OK, am lgoing to bring a song, 762 00:51:55,408 --> 00:51:56,826 or am lgoing to piayguitar? 763 00:51:56,951 --> 00:51:59,203 And some guys like Seye can fucking piay 764 00:51:59,370 --> 00:52:00,705 everything in the studio. 765 00:52:00,872 --> 00:52:02,665 He just sees a space andgoes for it. 766 00:52:03,249 --> 00:52:07,378 Where we are now is further than I had feit we would be, 767 00:52:07,545 --> 00:52:09,005 or even really wanted to be. 768 00:52:09,130 --> 00:52:10,965 I think we've ended up with something cooi. 769 00:52:26,814 --> 00:52:27,732 So cool. 770 00:52:28,066 --> 00:52:31,152 With that, "There Will Be Time" and "Ngamila" and this one. 771 00:52:31,277 --> 00:52:32,111 And Beatenberg. 772 00:52:33,071 --> 00:52:34,906 That's more than I would have fucking expected 773 00:52:35,073 --> 00:52:36,407 to get out of these two days. 774 00:52:36,949 --> 00:52:39,577 It's been great. We've got so much done. 775 00:52:39,702 --> 00:52:41,412 Like, unexpected stuff. 776 00:52:41,537 --> 00:52:44,040 Even things that we thought was really good yesterday, 777 00:52:44,749 --> 00:52:47,919 and then today it's developed into something so much better 778 00:52:48,044 --> 00:52:49,295 than we thought it could do. 779 00:52:49,420 --> 00:52:51,756 And yes, it's been amazing. 780 00:52:51,881 --> 00:52:52,924 Is this the right bag? 781 00:52:54,425 --> 00:52:56,469 There's nowhere eise in the world I'drather be. 782 00:52:56,594 --> 00:52:58,930 Like, absolutely. Utteriy. 783 00:52:59,180 --> 00:53:01,766 - You're such a cheeseball. - Shut up, mate. 784 00:53:18,074 --> 00:53:20,284 It's kind of bittersweet, obviously, 785 00:53:20,410 --> 00:53:22,036 last show's in Pretoria. 786 00:53:22,412 --> 00:53:24,622 It's like a relief that we've made it 787 00:53:24,747 --> 00:53:27,125 to Joburg and Pretoria live. 788 00:53:41,013 --> 00:53:41,848 During this trip, 789 00:53:41,973 --> 00:53:43,808 we've gotten to know each other a iot better. 790 00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:46,477 And I think the more we get to know each other, 791 00:53:46,644 --> 00:53:48,479 the more we know how to push each other 792 00:53:48,604 --> 00:53:49,689 and how far we can push each other. 793 00:53:58,114 --> 00:54:00,158 Yesterday I was stuck in the room for 15 hours, 794 00:54:00,283 --> 00:54:01,534 like, barely eating anything. 795 00:54:01,659 --> 00:54:03,661 Just like working on all these tracks 796 00:54:03,786 --> 00:54:04,787 and today I came offstage, 797 00:54:04,912 --> 00:54:06,456 thinking I was going to have a second to relax, 798 00:54:06,581 --> 00:54:08,791 and first thing, Marcus is over, and he's like, 799 00:54:09,083 --> 00:54:10,668 "I want to play one of the songs from yesterday." 800 00:54:11,002 --> 00:54:14,005 So we pulled everybody together 801 00:54:14,130 --> 00:54:17,341 and put the track up, as demo as it is, 802 00:54:17,467 --> 00:54:18,926 and tried to put it together. 803 00:54:19,677 --> 00:54:21,137 Ah, shit. 804 00:54:22,638 --> 00:54:24,307 I forgot something I need on stage. 805 00:54:24,682 --> 00:54:25,850 What's that? 806 00:54:29,020 --> 00:54:31,647 Do you know where Mumford's backstage is? 807 00:54:31,773 --> 00:54:33,858 You know? I'll meet you there. 808 00:54:34,609 --> 00:54:37,195 It's sort of like skin of our teeth kind of stuff, 809 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,530 which we really love, it's like brinkmanship. 810 00:54:39,697 --> 00:54:41,282 I just want to practise the end. 811 00:54:41,407 --> 00:54:44,035 With all of you guys, the a cappella bit. 812 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,536 It gives it that edginess. 813 00:54:45,703 --> 00:54:47,705 I mean, we are not a polished band, you know? 814 00:54:47,830 --> 00:54:50,291 And none of those artists are, I don't think. 815 00:54:52,877 --> 00:54:54,712 - I just stop. - Yeah, just stop. 816 00:54:54,837 --> 00:54:57,215 - Verse, chorus. - OK, cool. 817 00:54:57,381 --> 00:55:00,051 And then into a big chant. 818 00:55:01,552 --> 00:55:04,055 Keep it short, and then we go into "Lampenda". 819 00:55:08,726 --> 00:55:09,769 It does feel iike it, yeah. 820 00:55:11,312 --> 00:55:13,731 We always make things difficult for ourselves. 821 00:55:14,023 --> 00:55:17,318 And there's no reai need to it, cos I had hours off. 822 00:55:17,443 --> 00:55:19,362 I was reading. I could easily have been 823 00:55:19,487 --> 00:55:21,113 with everyone trying to do it. 824 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,115 But, you know, that's just the nature of tour. 825 00:55:23,241 --> 00:55:24,784 You get ideas at the last minute 826 00:55:25,076 --> 00:55:26,244 andyou've got to be a "yes man"about it 827 00:55:26,369 --> 00:55:28,246 and make this shit happen. 828 00:55:28,412 --> 00:55:29,789 It's kind of the fun of it. 829 00:55:31,082 --> 00:55:33,209 We get to create something privately, 830 00:55:33,334 --> 00:55:35,711 in this really weird bunker, just us. 831 00:55:36,003 --> 00:55:36,796 And then go andplay it 832 00:55:36,921 --> 00:55:39,090 to the biggest crowd we can possibiyplay it to. 833 00:55:39,507 --> 00:55:41,759 Which is, in some ways, irresponsible, 834 00:55:41,884 --> 00:55:43,761 because thesepeople have all bought tickets 835 00:55:43,886 --> 00:55:44,804 to see quality music 836 00:55:44,929 --> 00:55:47,223 and I'm not guaranteeing that it's going to be quality. 837 00:55:48,474 --> 00:55:50,434 I think with the gig tonight, 838 00:55:50,601 --> 00:55:52,270 hopefully we'll sort of present them 839 00:55:52,395 --> 00:55:54,689 with this mad idea that we had, 840 00:55:54,814 --> 00:55:56,107 that we still haven't really fully formed, 841 00:55:56,274 --> 00:55:57,692 even until tonight, probably. 842 00:55:57,817 --> 00:56:00,111 Baaba is the leader of that part. 843 00:56:00,236 --> 00:56:01,737 - Yeah. - And he will not move it. 844 00:56:01,863 --> 00:56:03,447 - Right, OK. - So we just have to follow him. 845 00:56:03,573 --> 00:56:04,448 OK. 846 00:56:04,615 --> 00:56:05,867 It's only got one chorus. 847 00:56:17,795 --> 00:56:19,714 ...on that "breathless". On the brim. 848 00:56:31,142 --> 00:56:32,768 One, two, three, four. 849 00:56:45,323 --> 00:56:46,490 We're running with them. 850 00:56:46,616 --> 00:56:48,159 - We'll explain everything. - Cool. 851 00:56:48,284 --> 00:56:49,827 I'll rehearse with Matt. 852 00:56:49,994 --> 00:56:52,330 We'll make sure they're up to scratch with what we're doing. 853 00:56:52,455 --> 00:56:54,582 I think by this point in the tour, two weeks in, 854 00:56:54,707 --> 00:56:57,043 we've kind of done everything we're supposed to do. 855 00:56:57,168 --> 00:56:59,170 The apprehension's gone. 856 00:56:59,337 --> 00:57:01,255 And it's like, "Oh, we could do this song. 857 00:57:01,380 --> 00:57:02,924 lfit doesn'tgo well, it doesn'tgo well." 858 00:57:07,303 --> 00:57:09,138 I don't like being filmed when I'm posing. 859 00:57:16,771 --> 00:57:19,357 It was exciting and it's exciting taking an attitude 860 00:57:19,482 --> 00:57:22,526 thatyou had in a pub with three people in London 861 00:57:22,693 --> 00:57:24,320 when you first startedplaying 862 00:57:24,445 --> 00:57:27,198 and taking that attitude in front of25,000peopie 863 00:57:27,365 --> 00:57:28,532 a very long way from home. 864 00:57:29,659 --> 00:57:30,743 We're notpretentious 865 00:57:30,868 --> 00:57:33,871 about it being mountain-moving music. 866 00:57:34,163 --> 00:57:37,208 But it's realty fun and it comes out of a place of joy 867 00:57:37,333 --> 00:57:41,712 and sharing and community and expression. 868 00:57:42,004 --> 00:57:43,547 And we want to share it with people. 869 00:57:44,423 --> 00:57:46,008 So, I've got this one dream. 870 00:57:46,133 --> 00:57:48,344 It's the only dream I've ever had that's recurred. 871 00:57:48,469 --> 00:57:50,930 I've had it now like six, seven times. 872 00:57:51,222 --> 00:57:53,933 It basically involves us being on stage. 873 00:57:54,225 --> 00:57:56,727 And just doing the worst gig. 874 00:57:56,894 --> 00:57:58,562 Oh, I have that dream. I have it all the time. 875 00:57:58,729 --> 00:58:00,815 Last night, I had it and I woke up this morning, 876 00:58:01,065 --> 00:58:03,985 with like, the most loathing... 877 00:58:04,110 --> 00:58:06,696 I admit I have that recurring dream ali the time, seriously. 878 00:58:06,821 --> 00:58:08,072 Oh, man. 879 00:58:34,140 --> 00:58:36,100 We wrote this song yesterday. 880 00:58:44,316 --> 00:58:46,027 So, listen, here's the deal, right? 881 00:58:46,152 --> 00:58:48,279 If we fuck it up royally, 882 00:58:48,446 --> 00:58:50,406 we're just gonna stop and start again. 883 00:58:57,663 --> 00:58:58,664 Here we go. 884 01:00:41,517 --> 01:00:43,561 Mr Baaba Maal! 885 01:00:48,649 --> 01:00:50,151 It's funny, the relationship 886 01:00:50,276 --> 01:00:52,736 thatyou build up on a tour together is so special. 887 01:00:53,404 --> 01:00:55,072 And you get so close topeople. 888 01:00:55,197 --> 01:00:56,574 It was like that feeiingyou get 889 01:00:56,699 --> 01:00:58,826 afterhaving a really big weekend, 890 01:00:59,118 --> 01:01:00,828 and then waking up on Sunday morning and being like, 891 01:01:00,953 --> 01:01:03,205 "Oh, it's over. That's a shame. That was realty fun." 892 01:01:03,330 --> 01:01:04,999 And you kind ofgot lost for a couple of days. 893 01:01:13,674 --> 01:01:15,259 Something that I've always thought about, 894 01:01:15,384 --> 01:01:17,011 in picking musicalprojects 895 01:01:17,136 --> 01:01:20,389 and deciding to venture out on adventures in music 896 01:01:20,514 --> 01:01:21,432 and it's like, 897 01:01:21,557 --> 01:01:22,600 "What are we actuailygoing to be looking back at 898 01:01:22,766 --> 01:01:24,393 when we iie on our death bed?" 899 01:01:24,518 --> 01:01:28,272 Is it the success oris it thatpeople liked this or that, 900 01:01:28,439 --> 01:01:30,149 or is it the experience that we had? 901 01:01:30,816 --> 01:01:33,485 It might be the experience we have making a song 902 01:01:33,611 --> 01:01:36,280 or recording somewhere, or being on a tour, 903 01:01:36,405 --> 01:01:38,657 that nobody eise experienced but us. 904 01:01:39,700 --> 01:01:42,578 lt's just about trying to have 905 01:01:42,703 --> 01:01:46,457 a fulfilling experience of life, making music. 906 01:01:56,592 --> 01:01:59,428 If you feel like you can get close enough 907 01:01:59,553 --> 01:02:01,555 to some sort of form of success 908 01:02:02,223 --> 01:02:04,516 but constantly change what that means to you, 909 01:02:04,642 --> 01:02:05,643 it can evolve. 910 01:02:06,685 --> 01:02:10,481 I think that our collective version of success has evolved, 911 01:02:10,648 --> 01:02:11,815 and we've kind of understood 912 01:02:11,941 --> 01:02:14,026 what each other are realty working towards 913 01:02:14,151 --> 01:02:15,611 and it means that we choose to do things, 914 01:02:15,736 --> 01:02:18,447 like this South Africa trip, and the record. 915 01:02:18,572 --> 01:02:22,159 Because doing so is a step closer 916 01:02:22,284 --> 01:02:24,453 to our collective sense of that success, 917 01:02:24,578 --> 01:02:26,372 and whatever we come up with next, 918 01:02:26,497 --> 01:02:28,582 whatever weird and wonderful idea we come up with, 919 01:02:28,707 --> 01:02:30,334 it's something that we've created 920 01:02:30,459 --> 01:02:31,627 that we've united behind, 921 01:02:31,752 --> 01:02:34,630 as a way of somehow pursuing that success. 922 01:02:45,641 --> 01:02:47,268 All these people have their own stories. 923 01:02:47,393 --> 01:02:48,811 Yet it's my privilege 924 01:02:48,936 --> 01:02:51,188 to get to be in their world just for a minute. 925 01:02:51,355 --> 01:02:53,148 Give it up for Beatenberg! 926 01:02:53,274 --> 01:02:54,817 That perspective, I think, helps you 927 01:02:55,109 --> 01:02:57,611 with understanding your place in the world a bit better. 928 01:02:57,736 --> 01:03:00,614 You're aware that you are not the centre of the universe. 929 01:03:53,250 --> 01:03:54,418 Thank you so much. 930 01:03:55,002 --> 01:03:56,503 Ssh, ssh, ssh. 931 01:05:09,326 --> 01:05:10,619 Thank you so much. 77141

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