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So, General Honoré, people always want
to figure out who was at fault, who
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have done a better job.
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How would you answer that question?
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We're part of a culture that we want an
instant solution. We normally watch the
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world in the front of our eyes, strike
our emotion in a movie, and in an hour
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and a half, that's somebody's over with
and everybody's smiling, there's a hero.
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That's not the case in a natural
disaster.
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People running out of food.
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People run out of water. Perhaps the
death toll will go into the thousands.
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So everybody is looking for somebody to
blame.
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And the city was a black city.
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So there was a presumption that there
would be danger.
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And the American people only knew what
they saw on television.
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So perception became reality.
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The lawlessness in New Orleans.
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Angry mobs set fires. That's now ravaged
by widespread looting.
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Back then we called it rumors.
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Now we call it misinformation.
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I call that survival.
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New Orleans thought it had been spared
the worst, and then two major levees
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broke and slowly the city has filled
with water.
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Those leaders who yesterday thought they
might be able to clean things up
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quickly have come to the radio to
explain we were wrong. The only answer
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to leave.
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The water from the lake has gone across
the entire city.
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And folks with money, who've got two
cars and a backup house in the mountains
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North Carolina, they just drive there.
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Or they call a hotel in Nashville and
say, save me a room.
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Poor people don't have that liberty.
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If, in fact, a million people left, but
still leave, 400, 500 ,000 people in the
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area without much drinking water,
without power.
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These people are people of not much
means.
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Some of them, I would guess, do not have
cars and didn't have the option of
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driving away from here.
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It's hard for me to comprehend how many
people might be out there and how many
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people's lives are in jeopardy.
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This brings back so many memories. It's
crazy.
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This is where I stood right here.
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They rebuilt it. They tore it down, but
this is where my house sat on the
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corner.
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We live close to the French Quarter
area. It never floods around there, so
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never was a problem.
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Can you show us how high it was?
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At the time, it was...
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About right here to me at first.
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After the levees broke, we didn't have
cell phones.
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We just had a house phone, and it was
down.
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I managed to get a radio.
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Orleans officials have only been able to
begin finding out what Katrina has left
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behind. There are a lot of areas
throughout the city covered with water,
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Ninth Ward.
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They said the Ninth Ward was underwater.
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People are stranded on top of their
homes in the Lower Ninth Ward.
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And my mom just started to cry because
her two sisters lived there and they
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couldn't swim or their kids.
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So we just roofed like they're dead.
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Hello, you're down 9 -1 -1. Do you need
police, fire, EMS? Hello?
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Katrina, she's a bad chick.
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Look at my hood.
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That's my house over there.
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I was in that attic. I'm across the
street now.
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I'm going back out there to get some
more people to bring them out.
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There was a lot of houses down there
that people couldn't get out.
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And that's when we was riding around,
seeing who we can find. We were hearing
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people hollering.
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We rode from St. Claude to Floyd Avenue.
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From Delaware Street to Jordan Avenue.
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Once we get at least 10 people, bring
them to Martin Luther King School.
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We was rescuing, like, everybody.
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Dogs and whatever.
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People that was barely making it, that
was halfway drowning.
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People trapped on roofs.
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We pick them up, some we had to cut in
the attic.
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Get him on the beam.
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Come on. One, two, three.
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On the beam behind you, not in front of
you. Come on, I'm holding him.
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All we're doing is we're out around
saving people.
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It's a good thing that we did.
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Because to be honest with you, our
leaders wasn't here for my people.
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The project is flooded.
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We don't have no water and no light.
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This is awful.
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The mayor and the governor need to do
something about this. They sent people
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overseas to fight walls.
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Send them over here to help us.
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Right after the levees broke,
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I was in the Lower Ninth Warden trying
to help.
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We got a man in the attic of this house
right behind us that we're going to take
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out of there.
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The lieutenant governor's rescued people
in a boat. That means the system
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failed.
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Oh, it's been devastating. I mean, as
you can see, I mean, the homes are 10
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underwater. We don't know where people
are trapped right now. We've got people,
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dogs swimming in the land, and we're
trying to get the boats in here, which
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difficult.
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There's no blueprint for 80 % of a city,
a major city, being underwater. There's
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no blueprint for that. There's no
blueprint for that.
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But the strategy was to save people's
lives.
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We knew the low -lying areas had been
overwhelmed, and we knew many people
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didn't evacuate.
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So before the federal government even
came, that's the areas that we were
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targeting to help evacuate people to
different locations, like the Superdome.
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conditioning, sleeping on the floor,
dealing with all the people, standing in
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line, army rations.
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When the rain stopped, I was looking at
it like now it's sunny.
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You're like, okay, cool. I guess we are.
Okay, cool. Let me get my bag.
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We're about to get up out of here. No,
that wasn't it. We wasn't about to go
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anywhere. There's over 200 National
Guard personnel here at the Superdome,
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keeping people in the Superdome until
it's actually safe to leave.
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I haven't.
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Seen my son yet. I haven't seen my mom
just yet. Like, if I wanted to leave to
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go help my aunties or get out there to
go in, I couldn't leave.
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Yes, and it's very aggravating. And what
do we have to go home to?
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Many of us, our homes are going to be
flooded, are going to be destroyed.
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On top of that, people started coming in
more and more and more.
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They maybe was in a lower night wall,
got rescued from a bad situation, and
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they dropped them off at the Superdome.
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Keep your family members together.
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I was like, oh, Lord, I went from one
hell to another.
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It's crazy, man, to see some strange
shit up in here.
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All the bathrooms got shit flooding
everywhere to the top, man. It's nasty
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already.
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It was dark as hell, extremely,
extremely warm.
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And the smell was just so bad because
you had all those bodies in there.
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I got me thinking about the president.
What's going on, man?
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Like, you're going to let us suffer in a
superdome like this? I mean, that
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really baffled me.
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Ladies and gentlemen.
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Our Commander -in -Chief, the President
of the United States, George W. Bush.
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President Bush is out in San Diego where
he's going to give a speech in Iraq and
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also commemorate the ending of World War
II.
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Thank you all.
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Thanks for the warm welcome.
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It's good to be back in California.
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President Bush and his team's response.
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completely failed, especially in the
first day or two.
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This morning, our hearts and prayers are
with our fellow citizens along the Gulf
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Coast.
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I urge everyone in the affected areas to
continue to follow instructions from
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state and local authorities.
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As we deliver relief to our citizens to
the south, our troops are defending all
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our citizens from threats abroad.
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George W. Bush was on vacation at the
time of the hurricane striking.
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We're now getting word that President
Bush plans to return to Washington
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tomorrow to deal with some of the
ramifications of the hurricane.
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He stayed on vacation, I think, for
another couple of days.
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And those are the most critical days.
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Katrina was spread out over a number of
different states.
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We as a nation didn't really have a good
emergency response system set up.
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There was no clear command and control.
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There was no coordination.
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Everything was broken.
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Michael Brown is the head of the Federal
Emergency Management Agency. What
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advice can you share for those who live
in some of those hardest -hit areas?
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To be very, very patient. This is going
to be a very long and difficult process.
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I can't even get my teams in right now
to assist. It was a complete
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and everybody had a piece of it.
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There's not really a plan that's working
in place. Is that fair to say?
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Our challenges are enormous, Soledad.
We've got an engineering nightmare
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to fill the breach of the levee.
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There's been a helicopter trying to drop
sandbags to clog up this hole, but
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that's an operation being manned by one
helicopter.
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Another dilemma Louisiana had is the
majority of its troops, the National
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were in Iraq.
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And most of the equipment from the
Louisiana National Guard was in Baghdad.
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And then those federal, state, and local
officials, they did not get along.
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So President Bush had no interest in
helping Kathleen Blanco. And Kathleen
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Blanco didn't particularly care for
Mayor Ray Nagin.
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So they all had no problem watching the
other person fail.
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The real issue was that if the other
person failed, they were going to drag
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everybody down with them.
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If ever the cavalry was needed, it is
now and it is in New Orleans. The scene
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nothing short of apocalyptic.
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80 % of New Orleans... We're in a hotel
and the search is on from the rest of
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our family members.
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I knew the seriousness of it, but I
didn't realize how much you were going
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through, you know?
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My grandmother lived with my cousin Greg
along with some other family members.
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in the basement apartment.
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We had been calling everyone's phone in
the home, not being able to get a signal
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from anyone.
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We stayed in the house for, like, two
days.
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It was a townhouse.
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We stayed in the bottom part, and my
grandma was at the top part.
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We kept most of our stuff, like,
downstairs in the garage area.
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So most of our clothes was washed away.
Everything we owned was wet.
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Food supply was kind of running short.
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We all in this house together, we all
trying to salvage what we can get and
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to make ourselves comfortable until the
rescue people come, hopefully.
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We're seeing the helicopters, and we
think, okay, cool, we're about to get
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saved. We have people coming to help.
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I saw a helicopter come so close to us,
I can see the man's wisdom tooth.
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That's how close it was.
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I'm waving the towel. I'm losing my
mind, screaming and yelling.
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Looking back at it, I guess they said,
well, it's just about five feet of
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water here.
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Let's go somewhere where somebody's in
worse trouble.
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But shit.
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Rescuers have their hands full.
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Look at the writing on this rooftop
showing a diabetic and a person with a
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condition need rescuing.
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Perhaps 100 ,000 more people are in the
same situation.
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That's when we say, you know what, we
have to get up out of here.
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We escape back through here, through the
back door.
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We walked from back here to over here by
the interstate where the cars are going
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up at.
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At this point, some people in the
neighborhood started, you know, talking
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we got to get to the interstate.
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My dad held my little brother on his
neck and my mom held my little sister.
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My cousin Arielle couldn't swim, so I
held on to her.
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We had a really big refrigerator.
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We dismantled the doors, took those off.
We pretty much put all our supplies in
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there. We put all the kids in there.
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And we had to walk real slow because
there was definitely stuff like swimming
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the water.
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Knowing what was in the water, that was
fearful.
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Disease, fuel, sewage, human remains,
and poisonous snakes swimming in the
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water. We have bayous, we have
alligators, water moccasins, you name
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it. And most of it we fried and cooked
the asses, but at that point in time we
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wasn't thinking about that.
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When they come out of here, they come up
to a freeway overpass, right over here
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to your left, this freeway overpass.
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Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and
hundreds of people.
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The whole entire neighborhood was on the
interstate.
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And we all just, we stranded.
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No cover, no helicopters, buses, no
anything.
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To be honest with you, I can remember
the look on my grandparents' face. It
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you know, it was like, you know, this is
the
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end of our existence, you know, here.
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Now, mind you, some of them people died.
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Yeah, people covered them.
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I can never forget, you know, what I
saw.
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People have come by all day. They don't
get instructions as to where to go, but
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by the thousands they've come. And five
minutes ago, while you were in another
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report, this lady and her family came
walking by.
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This is a five -day -old baby. How is
she?
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I guess she's all right. Hopefully she's
all right.
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When we got to the interstate, the
police officers, they told us that we
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walk up this way.
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One of our engineers and I went out in
the street and physically stopped the
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police who drive by constantly. I'm not
saying anything negative about the
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police or anyone else. I'm just trying
to give you an explanation of the
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enormity of this. In fact, if you'll
point over there, the line around the
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Superdome has not gotten any shorter.
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But the truth is breathed by the tens of
thousands with no instructions of where
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to go.
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It is a refugee crisis like the nation
has never known.
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After two days, Matt Nagin showed up at
the Superdome.
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I know a lot of people want to ask him.
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How could we get out of here, and why
are these people holding us against our
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will in here?
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But it's not like you could really get
to him.
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What's the purpose of y 'all, like,
walking in front of some, like, cameras
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talking to the news about our situation
if y 'all not about to stop all of this
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right now?
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You're supposed to be the one to
reassure your people that they're going
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okay.
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They could have did that. They could
have done better.
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I am very concerned.
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We have a shelter of last resort with
about 15 ,000 to 20 ,000 people in it.
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The Superdome's roof has been breached.
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Food is starting to become an issue.
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Generators are failing.
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If we could evacuate, we would. The
problem we're having is we do not have
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transport vehicles to handle that.
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We need all the help we can, and I would
love to have the president's help.
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Air Force One.
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Remote 48, Air Force One flying over
Super Bowl.
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It's Air Force One.
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The president of the United States.
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Two days after the storm, he left
vacation.
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Today in Air Force One, President Bush
flew over the disaster zone that Katrina
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has left behind.
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He was on his way back to Washington
after cutting short his holiday as it
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became clear that hundreds of his people
are dead. Hundreds of thousands more
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are homeless.
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There are pictures of President Bush
looking very, very concerned as he kind
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you know, sternly looks out the window
from his airplane.
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His aides say the president looked grim
and his fists were clenched as he looked
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at the damage.
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Can you talk about George Bush?
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I could, but I ain't seen him. Shit. He
flew over 35 ,000 feet, looked out the
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window and said, damn, that shit looked
bad.
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Then he kept going.
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The people in the affected regions
expect the federal government to work
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the state government and local
government with an effective response.
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I have directed Secretary of Homeland
Security Mike Chertoff to chair a
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-level task force.
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We are extremely pleased with the
response that every element of the
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government, all of our federal partners,
have made to this terrible tragedy.
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It takes logistics to solve the freaking
problem.
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And none of those fucking politicians
are trained to do that.
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That's why you need assholes like me
around.
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When I learned the surge had breached
the levee, I was the closest Army
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commander to the problem. And there was
some solace in the fact that I was a
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Louisiana guy.
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So Tuesday evening, I think it was
around 7 o 'clock or 1900 military time,
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when I was told that I would lead Task
Force Katrina.
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Okay.
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Find me.
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helicopter support.
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So the next morning, I got operational
command of the USS Baton and its
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helicopters, and we flew in to New
Orleans.
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It was devastating.
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We established our tactical command post
right at the Superdome.
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I sat with the mayor and told him we
were here to assist.
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He said, well, the general priority is
to get the people out of here.
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I said, okay, I need to go talk to the
governor.
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And the governor told me to my face on
Wednesday, tell the president to send
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everything he got we needed.
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Because she was very concerned about
security of the city.
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Every disaster, security come up.
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I said, imagine how pissed off those
people would be.
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If I brought troops to watch them, to
focus on security as opposed to
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them, I said, we need to get the
evacuation done before we deploy troops.
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Mike Brown had a headquarters adjacent
to the governor's headquarters, and he
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cordially showed me where my desk was.
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He said, I want you right here so we
could have unified command.
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And I said, well, the problem's in the
city.
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You can have that fucking desk. I'm
going.
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after Hurricane Katrina, and the
situation is getting more desperate by
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minute.
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Thousands are still stranded in misery.
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We've been out here for three days.
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We've been asking for help.
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They've been telling us the bus is going
to come. What the fuck is they doing?
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Some people were still trying to go to
the Superdome.
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We came from the Superdome, past the
Superdome, all the way to where the
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breached at. We've been walking in deep
water, everything.
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But the police, they're telling you go
to the convention center.
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Somebody heard the bushes sending buses
down there.
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Buses are on the way to take those
people from New Orleans to Houston.
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So let's try the convention center.
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It's about a two -mile walk.
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When we made it to the convention
center, there was nothing.
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No means to get anybody anywhere. We
have no medical attention.
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The government hasn't sent us anything.
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No kidding.
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We didn't have any food, any water,
anything.
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They had dead bodies there.
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We got to get away from here. We have no
water.
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And my brother and sister, it was real
dehydrated. They needed to get something
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to drink.
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Everybody just was sitting around.
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Waiting for help.
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After 9 -11,
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we gave the president unprecedented
powers to take care of New York and
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places. You mean to tell me that we
can't figure out a way to authorize the
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resources that we need?
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Excuse my French, everybody in America,
but I am pissed.
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Now, I will tell you this, and I give
the president some credit on this.
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He sent one John Wayne dude down here
that could get some stuff done, and his
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name is General Honoré.
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Louisiana had a contingency contract for
buses to come in, and when the city
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flooded, everything...
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Stop until we could get a sense of where
buses could come in and where they
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could pick people up.
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So it was taking time to get the buses
and the aircraft to float.
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I talked to the governor. I said, well,
you got a lot of school buses.
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I remember telling me, well, some of the
parishes still have schools. I said,
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well, close the schools.
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Some of the parishes gave up their buses
but didn't send their drivers in
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because of fear.
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Because what they were hearing on the
news was New Orleans is out of control.
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People are standing around.
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Well, all they wanted to do was get
their ass out of the city.
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15 ,000 people in the city's convention
center alone.
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Can you do anything to help these
people? We have people coming to help.
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Who's coming?
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How many days before your operation
finds these people, gets them out of
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Well, first let me tell you, there have
been deliveries of food, water, and
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medical supplies to the Superdome, and
that's happened.
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almost from the very beginning. But this
is the convention center. These are
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people who are not allowed inside the
Superdome.
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I have not heard a report of thousands
of people in the convention center who
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don't have food and water.
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So you're not telling me you just
learned that the folks at the convention
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center didn't have food and water until
today, are you?
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Paula, people who were unable or chose
not to evacuate, those people have
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suddenly appeared.
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Is that fair to blame the victims, many
of whom tell us they had no way out?
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We tried to cross the Geno Bridge to get
to the West Bank, but once you got up
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there, the police turned you back around
and told you to go back to the
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convention center. We couldn't go across
the river.
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They were met by a line of armed Gretna
policemen who fired shotguns over their
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heads and turned them back.
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Police arrested this desperate family
who'd stolen a car, saying they just
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wanted out.
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Some people just started to go to the
garage and high -wire your cars and get
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out of there and take their family.
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And my dad, I remember, he didn't know
how to high -wire your car, you know.
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So I pulled my mom to the side and I
said, Mom, just tell me or we're going
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die.
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I just couldn't believe, you know, my
country. The world just keep moving and
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just, we're stuck.
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Is anybody going to come help us? What's
the problem? Why?
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I felt lost. You know, I felt like I was
never going to make it out.
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We seen that the water wasn't rising
anymore.
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Now, my grandmother suggested that we go
back to our original house.
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And we got back to the house.
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The men, they went out into the water to
go, like, get in stores to get, like,
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supplies, food.
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People said they got to get what they
can get because people running out of
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food, people running out of water. Well,
they're giving us food. Thank the Lord
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for that.
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As you know, we're getting reports that
perhaps the death toll will go into the
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thousands. Well, I think the death toll
may go into the thousands, and I don't
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make judgments about why people choose
not to evacuate.
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I'm not going to sit here and second
guess why or why not the city didn't
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buses available.
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I'm not asking you, Mr. Brown, why the
city didn't have buses available.
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I'm asking you why you didn't have
National Guards in there with trucks to
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them out there. Why you haven't done it
to this day.
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Where is the aid? It's the question
people keep asking us on camera.
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Brian, it's an absolutely fair question.
And I got to tell you from the bottom
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of my heart how sad I feel for those
people. The federal government just
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about those people today.
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And I've got to tell you, we are moving
heaven and earth to give pallets of food
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and water to those people.
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I've watched all day long the stories of
the people who are causing trouble, who
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are, you know, screaming and yelling
about things and just being thugs.
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Try to get y 'all some water, bro.
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There will be 30 ,000 National Guard
troops in New Orleans.
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I am going to take control of that, and
we are going to make certain that this
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city is safe.
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I think officials were more than happy
to move off of their incompetence to the
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unruly folks here are out of control.
And you know what we do well? We do
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control. The police will manage it.
We're coming in. We've got guns.
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Drop it!
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Drop it!
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I've already called for martial law in
the city of New Orleans. We redirected
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all of our police officers back to
patrolling the streets.
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They were dead tired from saving people.
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TV news loves a crime story more than
almost anything else. So the idea that
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would turn to covering crime pretty
quickly didn't surprise me.
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We all did it, me included.
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I bet. All right. Thanks, Suzanne.
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Well, as New Orleans struggles with the
devastation, authorities must contend
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with yet another problem, restoring
order in a city that's now ravaged by
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widespread looting. But it was also how
they were framed. This is a picture
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we'll show you right here, and it shows
a black man, and the caption underneath
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it says this, a young man walks through
chest -deep water after looting a
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grocery store.
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And then you have this picture that
shows two white people, two residents
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through chest -deep water after finding
bread and soda.
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They were literally doing the exact same
thing.
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For many, it's the only way to get
drinking water or food.
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But for others, it's high crime. Some
people stole
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guns and used them to break into other
stores.
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By Thursday, we had gotten a few
thousand people out of the Superdome and
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started to flow.
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I just thank God for living, baby. Thank
God for the people that's helping us.
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That didn't last long.
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Because when the scene meets your
perception, a lot of black people, a lot
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poor black people, you got to be scared
of them. They got to be doing something
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wrong. Chaos reigned at the Superdome
and fights broke out as thousands
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inside and outside, frantically awaiting
bus transportation.
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A few busloads did make it out, but the
operation shut down when someone shot at
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rescue helicopters.
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When that hit the news.
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00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,120
I got a call from the White House, and
the White House said, if there are
462
00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:00,440
snipers in the city, the president may
take the city over.
463
00:33:01,140 --> 00:33:05,460
I said, no, there's no snipers here.
They said, well, go verify that.
464
00:33:07,700 --> 00:33:08,700
Well, guess what?
465
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,980
People would see a helicopter flying,
and they were isolated.
466
00:33:12,909 --> 00:33:16,250
And they take the shotgun, shoot it in
the air, think they'd get the helicopter
467
00:33:16,250 --> 00:33:19,290
attention. Again, reality from what we
see on TV.
468
00:33:19,510 --> 00:33:24,990
Reporter from our affiliate station
WDSU, Ed Reams, said the unrest is so
469
00:33:24,990 --> 00:33:27,210
that his boss ordered him to leave the
city.
470
00:33:27,450 --> 00:33:30,910
He said the looting was starting to get
so out of control, our general manager
471
00:33:30,910 --> 00:33:32,590
is fearing for our lives.
472
00:33:35,150 --> 00:33:38,970
Matter of fact, I had to make a call to
my friend, the governor. She had done a
473
00:33:38,970 --> 00:33:39,970
news conference.
474
00:33:40,270 --> 00:33:45,010
and said that she's ordered a National
Guard going in tomorrow to shoot, to
475
00:33:45,010 --> 00:33:46,010
if somebody's looting.
476
00:33:46,590 --> 00:33:52,350
These troops know how to shoot and kill,
and they are more than willing to do
477
00:33:52,350 --> 00:33:58,350
so. We will do what it takes to bring
law and order. This is not a time or a
478
00:33:58,350 --> 00:34:05,130
place for any of that behavior, and I am
just furious. This is intolerant. So I
479
00:34:05,130 --> 00:34:08,870
called her up and said, Governor, you
don't want to ever tell your people to
480
00:34:08,870 --> 00:34:09,870
shoot your people.
481
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,920
We struggle if people go and lose stores
and they're bringing us the juices and
482
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,440
eggs, they're about to kill us. Then
we're going to have nothing. We feed the
483
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,159
church. Tell you, if you stood there
from Saturday and it's now Thursday and
484
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:25,659
you're still waiting on a fucking bus,
I'm not sure if you call that looting
485
00:34:25,659 --> 00:34:28,820
when people go in the store to get food
and water. Everybody going to go into
486
00:34:28,820 --> 00:34:33,080
survival mode. Should police be focusing
on the looters at this point? We would
487
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,820
later learn when they would examine
crime statistics in the city that
488
00:34:37,820 --> 00:34:43,340
the narrative of like, oh my God, crime
is out of control and now police have to
489
00:34:43,340 --> 00:34:44,340
patrol the streets.
490
00:34:45,050 --> 00:34:46,190
It just wasn't accurate.
491
00:34:46,610 --> 00:34:50,370
But people are armed, and so there was a
lot of a sense of, I'm going to go and
492
00:34:50,370 --> 00:34:51,870
protect my home.
493
00:34:52,170 --> 00:34:54,989
Some people have taken the law into
their own hands.
494
00:34:55,230 --> 00:34:58,790
They're right down there stealing boats,
breaking in our store here.
495
00:34:59,990 --> 00:35:05,130
There was so much misinformation and
hysteria. It literally led to people
496
00:35:05,130 --> 00:35:06,130
getting shot.
497
00:35:08,250 --> 00:35:12,950
One of my neighbors told me that they're
evacuating people at the ferry.
498
00:35:13,470 --> 00:35:14,590
from the LJS Point.
499
00:35:17,630 --> 00:35:21,950
And that was an area that I wasn't too
familiar with.
500
00:35:27,130 --> 00:35:29,970
I didn't really make none of it. I just
kept walking.
501
00:35:33,610 --> 00:35:38,930
Before you know it, I was on the ground.
502
00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:42,470
I didn't even know what hit me.
503
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,280
But now I'm kind of, like, snapping out
of it a little bit.
504
00:35:47,620 --> 00:35:51,380
And I see a guy with a shotgun in his
hand.
505
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:53,680
I don't even know where he came from.
506
00:35:54,580 --> 00:35:56,120
And he let off another shot.
507
00:35:57,380 --> 00:36:03,280
Now I hit the ground again and stumbled
to the corner on the next block.
508
00:36:03,780 --> 00:36:09,160
And I came across a couple black people
who was living in the area.
509
00:36:14,490 --> 00:36:17,030
From there to West Jeff Hospital.
510
00:36:18,370 --> 00:36:22,610
This hospital typically gets one or two
gunshot victims over a 30 -day period.
511
00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:25,850
But in just a few days following
Katrina... Six to ten.
512
00:36:26,290 --> 00:36:27,750
So that's pretty unusual. Yes.
513
00:36:27,990 --> 00:36:34,430
It was after the fact that I started
hearing these stories about
514
00:36:34,430 --> 00:36:35,430
Algiers Point.
515
00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:39,350
Algiers Point is not a pushy community.
516
00:36:40,450 --> 00:36:41,930
A few white guys.
517
00:36:43,060 --> 00:36:46,040
was shooting at people or shooting at
black people.
518
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,640
We shot them.
519
00:36:49,580 --> 00:36:52,660
They were looters. It was great.
520
00:36:53,020 --> 00:36:56,100
It was like pheasant season in South
Dakota.
521
00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:58,660
If it moved, you shot it.
522
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:06,400
Later, the FBI got involved in all of
that because, of course,
523
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:07,480
it was a hate crime.
524
00:37:07,660 --> 00:37:10,920
Federal prosecutors say 56 -year -old
Roland Bourgeois Jr.
525
00:37:11,140 --> 00:37:13,820
fired a shotgun at three black men who
were trying to evacuate.
526
00:37:14,140 --> 00:37:17,600
Reports say he and others discussed
shooting black people and defending
527
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:18,600
Point from outsiders.
528
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,520
He pled guilty under a plea agreement
and faces up to 10 years in prison.
529
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,500
Right now, when I think about that
story, it makes me mad. You know what I
530
00:37:27,980 --> 00:37:29,500
We all in this together.
531
00:37:29,740 --> 00:37:33,020
Like, it's a common thing. We trying to
evacuate.
532
00:37:34,220 --> 00:37:35,220
You know what I'm saying?
533
00:37:36,570 --> 00:37:40,030
Pull a shotgun in, you know, and you
shoot me?
534
00:37:40,290 --> 00:37:44,370
We're not doing anything wrong. We're
not looting or we're not doing, you
535
00:37:44,370 --> 00:37:45,370
none of that stuff.
536
00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:47,010
We're trying to get to the ferry.
537
00:37:49,070 --> 00:37:54,570
Today, a full four days after the storm
hit, more federal aid finally started
538
00:37:54,570 --> 00:37:55,570
arriving in the area.
539
00:37:57,450 --> 00:38:02,390
The National Guard also brought their
guns and are under orders to take back
540
00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:03,650
violent streets of the city.
541
00:38:04,270 --> 00:38:08,750
Thousands of storm victims remain
stranded without food or water and no
542
00:38:08,750 --> 00:38:13,190
go. And at the same time, looting,
carjacking and other violence goes on,
543
00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:14,650
even rescuers being attacked.
544
00:38:15,210 --> 00:38:20,110
President Bush has been in Mobile,
Alabama for about the last 10 or 15
545
00:38:20,110 --> 00:38:24,250
to get a firsthand look at what the
hurricane did and what the government is
546
00:38:24,250 --> 00:38:25,249
doing to help.
547
00:38:25,250 --> 00:38:26,650
Since Monday, we've made progress.
548
00:38:26,910 --> 00:38:30,730
We've made little progress every day.
But we're told at this point he may only
549
00:38:30,730 --> 00:38:32,830
tour New Orleans by helicopter.
550
00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:38,130
This is dangerous territory, and a
decision has not yet been made, frankly,
551
00:38:38,130 --> 00:38:42,330
to whether it is safe. We are going to
restore order in the city of New
552
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,940
And the federal government, John, is big
and it's massive and we're going to do
553
00:38:46,940 --> 00:38:48,920
it. And, Brownie, you're doing a heck of
a job.
554
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,900
The FEMA director is working 24 hours a
day.
555
00:38:55,700 --> 00:39:00,020
Despite the firestorm of criticism,
President Bush is standing by his man at
556
00:39:00,020 --> 00:39:05,580
FEMA. No one knew who Michael Brown was
until the president said, you're doing a
557
00:39:05,580 --> 00:39:06,580
heck of a job, Brownie.
558
00:39:07,260 --> 00:39:11,120
So then I think people said, well, who
is Brownie? This was his biggest job
559
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,320
before joining FEMA.
560
00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:15,590
commissioner of the International
Arabian Horse Association.
561
00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:21,250
Association officials tell NBC News that
Brown resigned under pressure from the
562
00:39:21,250 --> 00:39:25,530
horse show job, and that many who worked
with him were stunned when he became
563
00:39:25,530 --> 00:39:26,750
director of FEMA.
564
00:39:27,110 --> 00:39:31,090
It's rather interesting. You had two
Republican governors there, both of whom
565
00:39:31,090 --> 00:39:36,570
said the federal government is doing a
great job, very much in contrast to the
566
00:39:36,570 --> 00:39:38,730
statements coming out of New Orleans.
567
00:39:57,150 --> 00:40:01,650
When the National Guard was there at the
convention center, they just had their
568
00:40:01,650 --> 00:40:03,130
rifles pointed down at us.
569
00:40:03,870 --> 00:40:06,910
I felt like we were treated as
criminals.
570
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,780
As the days went on, the tensions was
getting really high in the Superdome.
571
00:40:15,580 --> 00:40:19,000
Something happened where the National
Guard fired around.
572
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,020
We knew everybody ducked, and we knew
everybody started charging and running,
573
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:31,940
because I was one of them. With that
happening, this guy named
574
00:40:31,940 --> 00:40:34,720
Redio, he was like, man, we got to come
together.
575
00:40:51,820 --> 00:40:54,560
So next thing you know, started marching
and singing.
576
00:40:59,540 --> 00:41:00,900
And I'm singing with them.
577
00:41:01,220 --> 00:41:04,500
And it felt good.
578
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,840
It's like just for a few minutes, we was
able to erase what we was going
579
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:10,840
through.
580
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,400
Next thing you know, it changed
drastically.
581
00:41:39,310 --> 00:41:41,450
I once was lost, now I'm found, like we
was lost.
582
00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:43,570
I was waiting to be found.
583
00:41:47,150 --> 00:41:47,470
I
584
00:41:47,470 --> 00:41:57,410
think
585
00:41:57,410 --> 00:42:01,710
I'm one of the first people, I say, to
escape, to get out of there, because
586
00:42:01,710 --> 00:42:03,450
there are too many people to pay
attention to.
587
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:15,480
We slept on the floor in the convention
center probably about four days, I want
588
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,480
to say.
589
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:26,020
So we just started walking, and we saw a
lady with an RTA bus.
590
00:42:26,860 --> 00:42:30,380
I ran and ran to that bus.
591
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,440
She said she worked for the RTA company,
and she took a bus from her job.
592
00:42:38,570 --> 00:42:42,170
We just was riding and riding until we
wind up in Lafayette.
593
00:42:42,650 --> 00:42:46,650
The state has opened up the Cajun Dome
down in Lafayette. Apparently there is 6
594
00:42:46,650 --> 00:42:47,950
,000 evacuees there.
595
00:42:48,850 --> 00:42:54,230
I remember walking to the Cajun Dome
with my family. They gave us some
596
00:42:54,750 --> 00:42:58,050
a shower, food, and things like that.
597
00:43:01,270 --> 00:43:04,550
We just was lost, lost everything.
598
00:43:09,930 --> 00:43:14,950
Once you get out of danger, now you're
glued to the TV to see who's left
599
00:43:15,090 --> 00:43:16,090
That was me.
600
00:43:16,210 --> 00:43:17,930
I was thinking about those people.
601
00:43:19,310 --> 00:43:24,630
This is a city built on the coast in an
area that has hurricanes in it, that is
602
00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:27,190
built below sea levels, and that is a
soup bowl.
603
00:43:27,790 --> 00:43:31,330
People have talked for years about, you
know, whether it makes sense to have a
604
00:43:31,330 --> 00:43:32,330
city like that.
605
00:43:32,830 --> 00:43:33,830
Well, there you have it.
606
00:43:34,510 --> 00:43:37,570
New Orleans is to blame for existing.
607
00:43:38,460 --> 00:43:41,620
There are, of course, five stages of
grief. Denial, anger, bargaining,
608
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,960
depression, and acceptance. The White
House has denial covered. So most
609
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,400
celebrities moved right along to anger.
610
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:53,000
Like this moment from NBC's Benefit
Telephone, where Mike Myers was
611
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,600
mismatched with rapper Kanye West.
612
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,360
See if you can figure out which one of
them went off script.
613
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,960
The destruction of the spirit of the
people of southern Louisiana and
614
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,900
Mississippi may end up being the most
tragic loss of all.
615
00:44:06,410 --> 00:44:08,550
George Bush doesn't care about black
people.
616
00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:17,710
When he said that, it almost felt like
relief, like, man, somebody spoke on it.
617
00:44:17,890 --> 00:44:22,610
We already realized a lot of the people
that could help are at war right now,
618
00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:27,330
fighting another way, and they've given
them permission to go down and shoot us.
619
00:44:29,590 --> 00:44:32,470
Help finally arrived. Military
helicopters.
620
00:44:32,690 --> 00:44:34,310
This family was among the first aboard.
621
00:44:34,970 --> 00:44:36,830
but not without getting frisked first.
622
00:44:41,590 --> 00:44:48,430
Even if you are visually impaired, on a
minimal
623
00:44:48,430 --> 00:44:50,430
scale, you could see that shit.
624
00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:58,750
If you're a one -pass -eye fucking
pirate, you can look and see that this
625
00:44:58,750 --> 00:44:59,750
was racial.
626
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,820
Your troops that are coming in, they've
been hearing and watching the news, and
627
00:45:05,820 --> 00:45:09,140
there's a perception that there's danger
in New Orleans.
628
00:45:09,860 --> 00:45:12,920
That's the perception we fought the
whole fucking time.
629
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,360
And the mission of the military is to
defend the people of the United States.
630
00:45:22,540 --> 00:45:25,640
We're going to treat people with
respect, and we're going to get them out
631
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:26,640
goddamn city.
632
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,380
What I learned in my military training
is when you're in the front of the
633
00:45:32,380 --> 00:45:33,840
camera, you're talking to the American
people.
634
00:45:34,900 --> 00:45:40,240
And much of that is to push aside the
bullshit.
635
00:45:41,500 --> 00:45:42,500
So I went on TV.
636
00:45:54,960 --> 00:46:01,440
We went with him all day yesterday
throughout New Orleans for about 20
637
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:08,080
does not want this to look like Iraq. He
says this is a humanitarian
638
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,400
relief mission.
639
00:46:09,820 --> 00:46:12,920
And I just told him, put your goddamn
guns down.
640
00:46:13,900 --> 00:46:17,760
I mean, I'm a goddamn lieutenant
general. You a sergeant, a captain, put
641
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,760
fucking guns down.
642
00:46:19,780 --> 00:46:20,780
And he listened.
643
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,040
And the police did the same thing.
644
00:46:29,799 --> 00:46:32,960
People hadn't seen an Army commander
operate in the U .S.
645
00:46:33,340 --> 00:46:35,060
in modern TV time.
646
00:46:37,220 --> 00:46:43,980
It really felt like, okay, we're on the
next phase
647
00:46:43,980 --> 00:46:49,100
now. And it's going to be a good phase
because this guy seems to know what the
648
00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:49,859
hell he's doing.
649
00:46:49,860 --> 00:46:53,380
Have the guys put it on the ground and
send these trucks back for another load.
650
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:54,480
Yes, sir.
651
00:47:10,190 --> 00:47:15,930
What you see in New Orleans is really a
combination of both hope and misery.
652
00:47:19,330 --> 00:47:20,090
When
653
00:47:20,090 --> 00:47:33,950
it
654
00:47:33,950 --> 00:47:39,650
was time for the rest of the evacuation,
five or six days, After the storm,
655
00:47:39,950 --> 00:47:46,470
the people are going to come through the
hallway that connected the Hyatt
656
00:47:46,470 --> 00:47:49,110
to New Orleans Center and then to the
Dome.
657
00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:55,970
All I could think of was all the horror
stories I'd been hearing about what was
658
00:47:55,970 --> 00:48:00,350
going on in the Dome. Lack of water,
lack of food, folks going crazy,
659
00:48:00,350 --> 00:48:01,630
and all these things going on.
660
00:48:02,310 --> 00:48:06,590
Make one single line and keep your
family members together.
661
00:48:07,110 --> 00:48:08,150
Then they opened the door.
662
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,080
It looked like the other concentration
camps where human beings were just
663
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,160
treated really badly, inhuman.
664
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:26,000
That's the look of 80 % of the folks who
came out of that shell shot,
665
00:48:26,220 --> 00:48:27,900
eyes wide open.
666
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:38,560
And to be quite honest, I haven't
probably done this in 20 years,
667
00:48:39,230 --> 00:48:45,550
I don't live my life looking in the
rearview mirror, but it still kind of
668
00:48:45,550 --> 00:48:46,550
with you.
669
00:48:47,070 --> 00:48:53,670
And that was probably the hardest part.
670
00:49:02,110 --> 00:49:06,770
What happened is...
671
00:49:08,030 --> 00:49:14,950
The original flow group that was at the
Superdome, most of those people
672
00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:17,290
moved. Then we had more people come in.
673
00:49:17,890 --> 00:49:22,550
Right. And then we got the convention
center, which is, we got the outside
674
00:49:22,550 --> 00:49:23,890
center. How many of you think we moved
there?
675
00:49:24,810 --> 00:49:26,030
Oh, I had that number.
676
00:49:26,930 --> 00:49:29,730
This morning at 4 o 'clock, it was 15
,000.
677
00:49:53,070 --> 00:49:56,970
It's now been six days since Katrina
hit, and this morning the Superdome and
678
00:49:56,970 --> 00:49:58,810
Convention Center are nearly empty.
679
00:49:59,070 --> 00:50:02,270
But Louisiana State Police continue to
field hundreds of calls from people
680
00:50:02,270 --> 00:50:06,530
trapped in attics, and New Orleans
officials say 40 ,000 people may still
681
00:50:06,530 --> 00:50:07,530
the city.
682
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:15,320
time in this game we might be losing 50
to nothing but I'm gonna focus on this
683
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,720
next half there's still people hiding in
the top of the houses if we could see
684
00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:23,980
to see them we'll go to them at
685
00:50:23,980 --> 00:50:35,120
this
686
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:39,200
point I'm still in a minor shock I'm
like okay how am I gonna how are we
687
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,210
get out of here Everybody felt
devastated.
688
00:50:42,450 --> 00:50:43,770
We felt, you know, tired, hungry.
689
00:50:44,110 --> 00:50:45,370
People just get aggravated.
690
00:50:45,910 --> 00:50:49,870
You know, being in one, closing one
every one small spot.
691
00:50:50,490 --> 00:50:51,490
We prayed together.
692
00:50:52,190 --> 00:50:55,410
You know, we tried to read books.
Anything just to keep our mind off of
693
00:50:55,410 --> 00:50:56,410
actually going on outside.
694
00:50:58,590 --> 00:51:00,970
Our neighbors, they had like a little
garage.
695
00:51:02,170 --> 00:51:03,370
So I got up there.
696
00:51:03,730 --> 00:51:06,030
We had a big sign. We just wrote help on
it.
697
00:51:09,550 --> 00:51:10,550
They saw my son.
698
00:51:36,270 --> 00:51:38,690
We got to the lakefront airport.
699
00:51:43,530 --> 00:51:44,488
We're broken.
700
00:51:44,490 --> 00:51:46,390
We smell like shit and piss.
701
00:51:46,610 --> 00:51:50,010
I ain't take a bath in six or seven
days.
702
00:51:51,650 --> 00:51:56,190
There's a thousand and something
freaking people packed in the airport.
703
00:52:07,690 --> 00:52:12,510
In New Orleans, more evacuees are
heading out, ready to somehow,
704
00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:13,710
start over.
705
00:52:25,450 --> 00:52:26,690
We get to San Antonio.
706
00:52:27,830 --> 00:52:30,850
I fell to my knees and I just started
crying.
707
00:52:36,780 --> 00:52:41,920
the gate, if you will, a breach in
Phyllis happened.
708
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:45,340
You know, that was my levee breach. It
was a Phyllis breach.
709
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,780
And if you have not yet registered, may
you need to do so to receive benefits.
710
00:52:51,260 --> 00:52:54,000
No registration equals no help.
711
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,540
Of the hundreds of thousands of evacuees
from the hurricane zone, most have gone
712
00:52:59,540 --> 00:53:03,320
to Texas, and many are desperate to
contact missing relatives.
713
00:53:03,770 --> 00:53:07,690
At this point, we're not able to locate
my family. Nobody.
714
00:53:08,790 --> 00:53:13,330
We're just going from shelter to
shelter, holding up poster boards with
715
00:53:13,330 --> 00:53:14,470
grandmother's name on it.
716
00:53:15,230 --> 00:53:17,850
Have you seen checking in with
registries?
717
00:53:18,590 --> 00:53:22,650
Red Cross is registering evacuees at
shelters so family members across the
718
00:53:22,650 --> 00:53:25,090
country can call and find out where
their loved ones are.
719
00:53:25,490 --> 00:53:27,410
We called and we called and we called.
720
00:53:27,610 --> 00:53:33,820
1 -877 - loved ones just like it sounds
l -o -v -e -d the number one and s
721
00:53:33,820 --> 00:53:40,560
you start to think did they make it out
did they drown are they one of those
722
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:47,280
bodies that's floating in the water that
they're showing on tv there
723
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:53,700
are bodies floating in the water yes and
to people who say you got to move
724
00:53:53,700 --> 00:53:58,840
faster you got to do more when are you
going to get that cleaned up you say
725
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:06,640
Well, right now, I could either have
these troops go do this
726
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,960
or move the living.
727
00:54:14,500 --> 00:54:20,020
I think it may have been another two or
three days before my phone rang.
728
00:54:22,980 --> 00:54:24,580
They were in San Antonio.
729
00:54:28,759 --> 00:54:32,840
Ladies and gentlemen, my brother just
walked up to us, right up in here, just
730
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,740
reunited himself with us. And I just
thank God for that. Come on, man,
731
00:54:35,740 --> 00:54:38,420
just go ahead on and just get up. Get up
here.
732
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:39,680
You heard me.
733
00:54:40,820 --> 00:54:43,660
I am here to be with your brother right
now.
734
00:54:44,420 --> 00:54:45,700
I am here to be with him.
735
00:54:46,740 --> 00:54:47,900
They can't pick this up.
736
00:54:50,260 --> 00:54:55,720
Everybody's mind just went, you know, we
can actually inhale, exhale.
737
00:54:56,190 --> 00:54:58,990
You know, it was a sense of, all right,
we're good now, but what's the next
738
00:54:58,990 --> 00:55:00,730
plan? We still didn't know what was
going on.
739
00:55:01,290 --> 00:55:05,230
Your evacuation plan, obviously in
hindsight, was disastrous.
740
00:55:05,610 --> 00:55:09,050
You bear the brunt of the blame for some
of this, a large chunk of it.
741
00:55:09,310 --> 00:55:13,270
Look, I'll take whatever responsibility
that I have to take.
742
00:55:13,490 --> 00:55:17,450
You tell me what else we could have
done. What has Secretary Chertoff
743
00:55:17,450 --> 00:55:20,890
you? What has Donald Rumsfeld given you
and promised you? Look, I've gotten
744
00:55:20,890 --> 00:55:22,270
promises to...
745
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,800
I can't stand anymore promises. I don't
want to hear any more promises. I want
746
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:27,800
to see stuff done.
747
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:34,040
More than 1 ,800 people died during
Hurricane Katrina in the days following
748
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,040
devastating storm.
749
00:55:39,140 --> 00:55:44,160
More were displaced, many never to
return, and entire communities lay in
750
00:55:46,399 --> 00:55:50,080
What assurance can you give refugees if
they'll ever be able to come back,
751
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,940
especially people in poor areas? First
of all, they're not refugees. They're
752
00:55:53,940 --> 00:55:55,140
citizens of the city of New Orleans.
753
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,280
Through the work of FEMA, we're going to
rebuild this city.
754
00:55:59,500 --> 00:56:02,360
Through the work of the federal
government, through the work of the
755
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,860
this city and the state, we're going to
rebuild this city, and they will have a
756
00:56:04,860 --> 00:56:06,060
great city to come back home to.
757
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:14,760
Real talk, man.
758
00:56:14,890 --> 00:56:19,150
It's hard to even come here before the
levees broke.
759
00:56:19,510 --> 00:56:24,010
This spot, it was cool for us. We was
able to chill, and he loved it here.
760
00:56:27,070 --> 00:56:31,190
I used to ride the hollies up and down
the street, or sometimes I might go on
761
00:56:31,190 --> 00:56:32,190
the levee.
762
00:56:33,310 --> 00:56:38,170
I'd come inside and mainly be with my
grandmother and just be around her while
763
00:56:38,170 --> 00:56:39,170
she cook.
764
00:56:42,210 --> 00:56:43,970
So it was just like this.
765
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,860
Family good vibes, man. Family good
vibes.
766
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,780
Yeah, a lot of good times, man.
767
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,300
A lot of good people, a lot of
barbecues, a lot of crab balls, a lot of
768
00:56:54,300 --> 00:56:55,300
balls.
769
00:57:05,380 --> 00:57:08,820
I've stood with hundreds of people whose
houses were in the water.
770
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:13,240
People I met during Katrina and years
after.
771
00:57:13,740 --> 00:57:17,620
Those who survive recovery, no recovery
is a living hell.
772
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,260
Lower Ninth is still struggling to
rebuild five years after the storm.
773
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,080
I have flashes.
774
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:32,400
It's like flashes that go off, like
memories, like a spot that just, like I
775
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:33,900
see all those faces.
776
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,340
The elderly lady.
777
00:57:37,420 --> 00:57:39,660
The little kid that I was close to.
778
00:57:41,070 --> 00:57:45,570
This veteran or this man, I can remember
the conversations.
779
00:57:47,130 --> 00:57:49,350
What are they telling you 10 years
later?
780
00:57:50,930 --> 00:57:54,410
There's something washed away in the
storm that they can never get back.
781
00:57:59,370 --> 00:58:02,210
The soul was definitely ripped apart
from this neighborhood.
782
00:58:11,950 --> 00:58:16,510
I stayed out here many years, but I had
to move away because it's just
783
00:58:16,510 --> 00:58:17,510
overwhelming.
784
00:58:27,030 --> 00:58:29,590
20 years later, the shit is still real.
785
00:58:33,230 --> 00:58:34,750
That's what makes it a disaster.
67876
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