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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:23,240 --> 00:00:28,280 So, General Honoré, people always want to figure out who was at fault, who 2 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:29,280 have done a better job. 3 00:00:29,420 --> 00:00:30,940 How would you answer that question? 4 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:35,820 We're part of a culture that we want an instant solution. We normally watch the 5 00:00:35,820 --> 00:00:40,440 world in the front of our eyes, strike our emotion in a movie, and in an hour 6 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,360 and a half, that's somebody's over with and everybody's smiling, there's a hero. 7 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,120 That's not the case in a natural disaster. 8 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,820 People running out of food. 9 00:00:52,170 --> 00:00:56,270 People run out of water. Perhaps the death toll will go into the thousands. 10 00:00:56,910 --> 00:01:00,370 So everybody is looking for somebody to blame. 11 00:01:02,030 --> 00:01:04,510 And the city was a black city. 12 00:01:05,110 --> 00:01:08,250 So there was a presumption that there would be danger. 13 00:01:09,510 --> 00:01:14,530 And the American people only knew what they saw on television. 14 00:01:15,790 --> 00:01:18,070 So perception became reality. 15 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,280 The lawlessness in New Orleans. 16 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,060 Angry mobs set fires. That's now ravaged by widespread looting. 17 00:01:26,020 --> 00:01:27,740 Back then we called it rumors. 18 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:29,620 Now we call it misinformation. 19 00:01:33,320 --> 00:01:34,620 I call that survival. 20 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,080 New Orleans thought it had been spared the worst, and then two major levees 21 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,560 broke and slowly the city has filled with water. 22 00:02:05,540 --> 00:02:09,539 Those leaders who yesterday thought they might be able to clean things up 23 00:02:09,539 --> 00:02:14,880 quickly have come to the radio to explain we were wrong. The only answer 24 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:15,940 to leave. 25 00:02:17,820 --> 00:02:22,580 The water from the lake has gone across the entire city. 26 00:02:25,910 --> 00:02:32,710 And folks with money, who've got two cars and a backup house in the mountains 27 00:02:32,710 --> 00:02:34,670 North Carolina, they just drive there. 28 00:02:35,310 --> 00:02:38,370 Or they call a hotel in Nashville and say, save me a room. 29 00:02:40,910 --> 00:02:45,830 Poor people don't have that liberty. 30 00:02:47,390 --> 00:02:54,030 If, in fact, a million people left, but still leave, 400, 500 ,000 people in the 31 00:02:54,030 --> 00:02:58,230 area without much drinking water, without power. 32 00:02:58,990 --> 00:03:01,630 These people are people of not much means. 33 00:03:01,910 --> 00:03:05,510 Some of them, I would guess, do not have cars and didn't have the option of 34 00:03:05,510 --> 00:03:06,510 driving away from here. 35 00:03:08,370 --> 00:03:12,290 It's hard for me to comprehend how many people might be out there and how many 36 00:03:12,290 --> 00:03:14,150 people's lives are in jeopardy. 37 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:28,940 This brings back so many memories. It's crazy. 38 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,440 This is where I stood right here. 39 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,580 They rebuilt it. They tore it down, but this is where my house sat on the 40 00:03:40,580 --> 00:03:41,580 corner. 41 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,820 We live close to the French Quarter area. It never floods around there, so 42 00:03:47,820 --> 00:03:48,860 never was a problem. 43 00:03:49,300 --> 00:03:51,020 Can you show us how high it was? 44 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,520 At the time, it was... 45 00:03:53,790 --> 00:03:55,410 About right here to me at first. 46 00:03:58,010 --> 00:04:01,290 After the levees broke, we didn't have cell phones. 47 00:04:02,150 --> 00:04:04,670 We just had a house phone, and it was down. 48 00:04:06,110 --> 00:04:08,250 I managed to get a radio. 49 00:04:08,870 --> 00:04:12,570 Orleans officials have only been able to begin finding out what Katrina has left 50 00:04:12,570 --> 00:04:16,649 behind. There are a lot of areas throughout the city covered with water, 51 00:04:16,649 --> 00:04:17,449 Ninth Ward. 52 00:04:17,450 --> 00:04:20,010 They said the Ninth Ward was underwater. 53 00:04:20,810 --> 00:04:23,450 People are stranded on top of their homes in the Lower Ninth Ward. 54 00:04:23,730 --> 00:04:29,330 And my mom just started to cry because her two sisters lived there and they 55 00:04:29,330 --> 00:04:30,810 couldn't swim or their kids. 56 00:04:31,330 --> 00:04:34,370 So we just roofed like they're dead. 57 00:04:35,410 --> 00:04:38,670 Hello, you're down 9 -1 -1. Do you need police, fire, EMS? Hello? 58 00:04:44,710 --> 00:04:46,570 Katrina, she's a bad chick. 59 00:04:47,110 --> 00:04:48,110 Look at my hood. 60 00:04:48,980 --> 00:04:50,160 That's my house over there. 61 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,900 I was in that attic. I'm across the street now. 62 00:04:55,100 --> 00:04:57,980 I'm going back out there to get some more people to bring them out. 63 00:05:02,780 --> 00:05:05,680 There was a lot of houses down there that people couldn't get out. 64 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,000 And that's when we was riding around, seeing who we can find. We were hearing 65 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,000 people hollering. 66 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,660 We rode from St. Claude to Floyd Avenue. 67 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,180 From Delaware Street to Jordan Avenue. 68 00:05:23,740 --> 00:05:28,080 Once we get at least 10 people, bring them to Martin Luther King School. 69 00:05:30,820 --> 00:05:33,460 We was rescuing, like, everybody. 70 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:34,880 Dogs and whatever. 71 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,760 People that was barely making it, that was halfway drowning. 72 00:05:40,980 --> 00:05:42,400 People trapped on roofs. 73 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,480 We pick them up, some we had to cut in the attic. 74 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,440 Get him on the beam. 75 00:05:54,500 --> 00:05:56,520 Come on. One, two, three. 76 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,780 On the beam behind you, not in front of you. Come on, I'm holding him. 77 00:06:00,300 --> 00:06:02,900 All we're doing is we're out around saving people. 78 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,020 It's a good thing that we did. 79 00:06:07,020 --> 00:06:12,200 Because to be honest with you, our leaders wasn't here for my people. 80 00:06:19,950 --> 00:06:20,950 The project is flooded. 81 00:06:21,150 --> 00:06:23,850 We don't have no water and no light. 82 00:06:24,130 --> 00:06:25,190 This is awful. 83 00:06:27,270 --> 00:06:30,810 The mayor and the governor need to do something about this. They sent people 84 00:06:30,810 --> 00:06:32,630 overseas to fight walls. 85 00:06:32,970 --> 00:06:34,670 Send them over here to help us. 86 00:06:39,290 --> 00:06:45,430 Right after the levees broke, 87 00:06:45,770 --> 00:06:48,090 I was in the Lower Ninth Warden trying to help. 88 00:06:48,570 --> 00:06:52,730 We got a man in the attic of this house right behind us that we're going to take 89 00:06:52,730 --> 00:06:53,730 out of there. 90 00:06:53,970 --> 00:06:56,870 The lieutenant governor's rescued people in a boat. That means the system 91 00:06:56,870 --> 00:06:57,870 failed. 92 00:06:58,730 --> 00:07:02,390 Oh, it's been devastating. I mean, as you can see, I mean, the homes are 10 93 00:07:02,390 --> 00:07:06,370 underwater. We don't know where people are trapped right now. We've got people, 94 00:07:06,490 --> 00:07:11,090 dogs swimming in the land, and we're trying to get the boats in here, which 95 00:07:11,090 --> 00:07:12,090 difficult. 96 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,000 There's no blueprint for 80 % of a city, a major city, being underwater. There's 97 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,840 no blueprint for that. There's no blueprint for that. 98 00:07:22,580 --> 00:07:25,320 But the strategy was to save people's lives. 99 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,580 We knew the low -lying areas had been overwhelmed, and we knew many people 100 00:07:30,580 --> 00:07:31,580 didn't evacuate. 101 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,340 So before the federal government even came, that's the areas that we were 102 00:07:38,340 --> 00:07:42,380 targeting to help evacuate people to different locations, like the Superdome. 103 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,700 conditioning, sleeping on the floor, dealing with all the people, standing in 104 00:07:59,700 --> 00:08:01,520 line, army rations. 105 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,480 When the rain stopped, I was looking at it like now it's sunny. 106 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,080 You're like, okay, cool. I guess we are. Okay, cool. Let me get my bag. 107 00:08:09,820 --> 00:08:13,600 We're about to get up out of here. No, that wasn't it. We wasn't about to go 108 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,800 anywhere. There's over 200 National Guard personnel here at the Superdome, 109 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,540 keeping people in the Superdome until it's actually safe to leave. 110 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:23,600 I haven't. 111 00:08:24,010 --> 00:08:27,750 Seen my son yet. I haven't seen my mom just yet. Like, if I wanted to leave to 112 00:08:27,750 --> 00:08:31,930 go help my aunties or get out there to go in, I couldn't leave. 113 00:08:32,770 --> 00:08:36,990 Yes, and it's very aggravating. And what do we have to go home to? 114 00:08:37,630 --> 00:08:42,770 Many of us, our homes are going to be flooded, are going to be destroyed. 115 00:08:44,230 --> 00:08:47,970 On top of that, people started coming in more and more and more. 116 00:08:50,990 --> 00:08:56,650 They maybe was in a lower night wall, got rescued from a bad situation, and 117 00:08:56,650 --> 00:08:58,170 they dropped them off at the Superdome. 118 00:08:58,930 --> 00:09:01,490 Keep your family members together. 119 00:09:02,270 --> 00:09:04,710 I was like, oh, Lord, I went from one hell to another. 120 00:09:05,530 --> 00:09:08,370 It's crazy, man, to see some strange shit up in here. 121 00:09:08,730 --> 00:09:13,150 All the bathrooms got shit flooding everywhere to the top, man. It's nasty 122 00:09:13,150 --> 00:09:14,150 already. 123 00:09:14,710 --> 00:09:18,690 It was dark as hell, extremely, extremely warm. 124 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,740 And the smell was just so bad because you had all those bodies in there. 125 00:09:26,300 --> 00:09:29,260 I got me thinking about the president. What's going on, man? 126 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,140 Like, you're going to let us suffer in a superdome like this? I mean, that 127 00:09:34,140 --> 00:09:35,280 really baffled me. 128 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:43,480 Ladies and gentlemen. 129 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,440 Our Commander -in -Chief, the President of the United States, George W. Bush. 130 00:09:52,020 --> 00:09:56,960 President Bush is out in San Diego where he's going to give a speech in Iraq and 131 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,820 also commemorate the ending of World War II. 132 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:01,440 Thank you all. 133 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:03,860 Thanks for the warm welcome. 134 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,840 It's good to be back in California. 135 00:10:09,060 --> 00:10:11,560 President Bush and his team's response. 136 00:10:12,980 --> 00:10:16,280 completely failed, especially in the first day or two. 137 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,080 This morning, our hearts and prayers are with our fellow citizens along the Gulf 138 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,080 Coast. 139 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:27,240 I urge everyone in the affected areas to continue to follow instructions from 140 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,160 state and local authorities. 141 00:10:29,560 --> 00:10:35,200 As we deliver relief to our citizens to the south, our troops are defending all 142 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,760 our citizens from threats abroad. 143 00:10:41,230 --> 00:10:46,250 George W. Bush was on vacation at the time of the hurricane striking. 144 00:10:46,610 --> 00:10:49,750 We're now getting word that President Bush plans to return to Washington 145 00:10:49,750 --> 00:10:54,230 tomorrow to deal with some of the ramifications of the hurricane. 146 00:10:54,670 --> 00:10:57,210 He stayed on vacation, I think, for another couple of days. 147 00:10:58,090 --> 00:10:59,890 And those are the most critical days. 148 00:11:01,230 --> 00:11:04,130 Katrina was spread out over a number of different states. 149 00:11:05,310 --> 00:11:08,890 We as a nation didn't really have a good emergency response system set up. 150 00:11:09,450 --> 00:11:10,990 There was no clear command and control. 151 00:11:11,750 --> 00:11:12,910 There was no coordination. 152 00:11:14,210 --> 00:11:15,290 Everything was broken. 153 00:11:15,830 --> 00:11:19,910 Michael Brown is the head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency. What 154 00:11:19,910 --> 00:11:23,890 advice can you share for those who live in some of those hardest -hit areas? 155 00:11:24,230 --> 00:11:28,390 To be very, very patient. This is going to be a very long and difficult process. 156 00:11:28,890 --> 00:11:32,870 I can't even get my teams in right now to assist. It was a complete 157 00:11:32,930 --> 00:11:34,210 and everybody had a piece of it. 158 00:11:34,470 --> 00:11:38,550 There's not really a plan that's working in place. Is that fair to say? 159 00:11:39,340 --> 00:11:44,260 Our challenges are enormous, Soledad. We've got an engineering nightmare 160 00:11:44,260 --> 00:11:47,600 to fill the breach of the levee. 161 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:52,540 There's been a helicopter trying to drop sandbags to clog up this hole, but 162 00:11:52,540 --> 00:11:55,180 that's an operation being manned by one helicopter. 163 00:11:55,640 --> 00:12:00,820 Another dilemma Louisiana had is the majority of its troops, the National 164 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,260 were in Iraq. 165 00:12:02,700 --> 00:12:06,860 And most of the equipment from the Louisiana National Guard was in Baghdad. 166 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:13,100 And then those federal, state, and local officials, they did not get along. 167 00:12:13,820 --> 00:12:19,420 So President Bush had no interest in helping Kathleen Blanco. And Kathleen 168 00:12:19,420 --> 00:12:22,360 Blanco didn't particularly care for Mayor Ray Nagin. 169 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,240 So they all had no problem watching the other person fail. 170 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,660 The real issue was that if the other person failed, they were going to drag 171 00:12:30,660 --> 00:12:31,820 everybody down with them. 172 00:12:34,670 --> 00:12:39,590 If ever the cavalry was needed, it is now and it is in New Orleans. The scene 173 00:12:39,590 --> 00:12:41,150 nothing short of apocalyptic. 174 00:12:41,510 --> 00:12:46,110 80 % of New Orleans... We're in a hotel and the search is on from the rest of 175 00:12:46,110 --> 00:12:47,110 our family members. 176 00:12:48,490 --> 00:12:54,350 I knew the seriousness of it, but I didn't realize how much you were going 177 00:12:54,350 --> 00:12:56,070 through, you know? 178 00:12:57,570 --> 00:13:02,830 My grandmother lived with my cousin Greg along with some other family members. 179 00:13:03,290 --> 00:13:04,290 in the basement apartment. 180 00:13:06,170 --> 00:13:10,910 We had been calling everyone's phone in the home, not being able to get a signal 181 00:13:10,910 --> 00:13:11,910 from anyone. 182 00:13:16,910 --> 00:13:19,050 We stayed in the house for, like, two days. 183 00:13:19,670 --> 00:13:20,750 It was a townhouse. 184 00:13:20,950 --> 00:13:25,010 We stayed in the bottom part, and my grandma was at the top part. 185 00:13:27,450 --> 00:13:30,210 We kept most of our stuff, like, downstairs in the garage area. 186 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:33,260 So most of our clothes was washed away. Everything we owned was wet. 187 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,400 Food supply was kind of running short. 188 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:40,540 We all in this house together, we all trying to salvage what we can get and 189 00:13:40,540 --> 00:13:45,000 to make ourselves comfortable until the rescue people come, hopefully. 190 00:13:47,580 --> 00:13:51,220 We're seeing the helicopters, and we think, okay, cool, we're about to get 191 00:13:51,220 --> 00:13:53,440 saved. We have people coming to help. 192 00:13:57,260 --> 00:14:02,160 I saw a helicopter come so close to us, I can see the man's wisdom tooth. 193 00:14:02,540 --> 00:14:03,600 That's how close it was. 194 00:14:04,540 --> 00:14:09,080 I'm waving the towel. I'm losing my mind, screaming and yelling. 195 00:14:12,980 --> 00:14:19,960 Looking back at it, I guess they said, well, it's just about five feet of 196 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:20,960 water here. 197 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,920 Let's go somewhere where somebody's in worse trouble. 198 00:14:25,100 --> 00:14:26,100 But shit. 199 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,740 Rescuers have their hands full. 200 00:14:29,940 --> 00:14:34,540 Look at the writing on this rooftop showing a diabetic and a person with a 201 00:14:34,540 --> 00:14:36,260 condition need rescuing. 202 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,940 Perhaps 100 ,000 more people are in the same situation. 203 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,020 That's when we say, you know what, we have to get up out of here. 204 00:14:50,340 --> 00:14:53,420 We escape back through here, through the back door. 205 00:14:54,060 --> 00:14:59,320 We walked from back here to over here by the interstate where the cars are going 206 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:00,320 up at. 207 00:15:06,500 --> 00:15:11,420 At this point, some people in the neighborhood started, you know, talking 208 00:15:11,540 --> 00:15:13,300 we got to get to the interstate. 209 00:15:15,420 --> 00:15:19,360 My dad held my little brother on his neck and my mom held my little sister. 210 00:15:20,219 --> 00:15:23,740 My cousin Arielle couldn't swim, so I held on to her. 211 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,560 We had a really big refrigerator. 212 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,640 We dismantled the doors, took those off. We pretty much put all our supplies in 213 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,660 there. We put all the kids in there. 214 00:15:35,060 --> 00:15:38,900 And we had to walk real slow because there was definitely stuff like swimming 215 00:15:38,900 --> 00:15:39,900 the water. 216 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,460 Knowing what was in the water, that was fearful. 217 00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:49,550 Disease, fuel, sewage, human remains, and poisonous snakes swimming in the 218 00:15:49,550 --> 00:15:55,130 water. We have bayous, we have alligators, water moccasins, you name 219 00:15:55,130 --> 00:15:59,590 it. And most of it we fried and cooked the asses, but at that point in time we 220 00:15:59,590 --> 00:16:00,590 wasn't thinking about that. 221 00:16:04,330 --> 00:16:08,430 When they come out of here, they come up to a freeway overpass, right over here 222 00:16:08,430 --> 00:16:10,490 to your left, this freeway overpass. 223 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,160 Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people. 224 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:24,200 The whole entire neighborhood was on the interstate. 225 00:16:28,340 --> 00:16:31,680 And we all just, we stranded. 226 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:38,260 No cover, no helicopters, buses, no anything. 227 00:16:48,330 --> 00:16:52,950 To be honest with you, I can remember the look on my grandparents' face. It 228 00:16:53,030 --> 00:16:59,730 you know, it was like, you know, this is the 229 00:16:59,730 --> 00:17:04,069 end of our existence, you know, here. 230 00:17:16,940 --> 00:17:18,480 Now, mind you, some of them people died. 231 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,839 Yeah, people covered them. 232 00:17:25,300 --> 00:17:28,260 I can never forget, you know, what I saw. 233 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,900 People have come by all day. They don't get instructions as to where to go, but 234 00:17:32,900 --> 00:17:37,320 by the thousands they've come. And five minutes ago, while you were in another 235 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,300 report, this lady and her family came walking by. 236 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,180 This is a five -day -old baby. How is she? 237 00:17:45,020 --> 00:17:47,700 I guess she's all right. Hopefully she's all right. 238 00:17:48,260 --> 00:17:53,520 When we got to the interstate, the police officers, they told us that we 239 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:54,520 walk up this way. 240 00:17:55,020 --> 00:17:59,900 One of our engineers and I went out in the street and physically stopped the 241 00:17:59,900 --> 00:18:05,800 police who drive by constantly. I'm not saying anything negative about the 242 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,780 police or anyone else. I'm just trying to give you an explanation of the 243 00:18:08,780 --> 00:18:12,340 enormity of this. In fact, if you'll point over there, the line around the 244 00:18:12,340 --> 00:18:13,920 Superdome has not gotten any shorter. 245 00:18:14,590 --> 00:18:18,710 But the truth is breathed by the tens of thousands with no instructions of where 246 00:18:18,710 --> 00:18:19,629 to go. 247 00:18:19,630 --> 00:18:23,450 It is a refugee crisis like the nation has never known. 248 00:18:30,410 --> 00:18:34,090 After two days, Matt Nagin showed up at the Superdome. 249 00:18:37,370 --> 00:18:43,790 I know a lot of people want to ask him. 250 00:18:44,030 --> 00:18:47,710 How could we get out of here, and why are these people holding us against our 251 00:18:47,710 --> 00:18:48,710 will in here? 252 00:18:49,190 --> 00:18:51,530 But it's not like you could really get to him. 253 00:18:55,930 --> 00:19:00,970 What's the purpose of y 'all, like, walking in front of some, like, cameras 254 00:19:00,970 --> 00:19:05,670 talking to the news about our situation if y 'all not about to stop all of this 255 00:19:05,670 --> 00:19:06,670 right now? 256 00:19:07,610 --> 00:19:11,390 You're supposed to be the one to reassure your people that they're going 257 00:19:11,390 --> 00:19:12,390 okay. 258 00:19:12,650 --> 00:19:14,510 They could have did that. They could have done better. 259 00:19:18,510 --> 00:19:20,110 I am very concerned. 260 00:19:22,010 --> 00:19:26,410 We have a shelter of last resort with about 15 ,000 to 20 ,000 people in it. 261 00:19:27,390 --> 00:19:29,670 The Superdome's roof has been breached. 262 00:19:29,950 --> 00:19:31,990 Food is starting to become an issue. 263 00:19:33,010 --> 00:19:34,050 Generators are failing. 264 00:19:34,790 --> 00:19:38,970 If we could evacuate, we would. The problem we're having is we do not have 265 00:19:38,970 --> 00:19:40,630 transport vehicles to handle that. 266 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,900 We need all the help we can, and I would love to have the president's help. 267 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:49,300 Air Force One. 268 00:19:50,500 --> 00:19:54,040 Remote 48, Air Force One flying over Super Bowl. 269 00:19:57,700 --> 00:19:58,800 It's Air Force One. 270 00:20:04,780 --> 00:20:06,760 The president of the United States. 271 00:20:07,140 --> 00:20:10,200 Two days after the storm, he left vacation. 272 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,840 Today in Air Force One, President Bush flew over the disaster zone that Katrina 273 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:16,840 has left behind. 274 00:20:17,100 --> 00:20:21,480 He was on his way back to Washington after cutting short his holiday as it 275 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:26,100 became clear that hundreds of his people are dead. Hundreds of thousands more 276 00:20:26,100 --> 00:20:27,100 are homeless. 277 00:20:29,260 --> 00:20:34,000 There are pictures of President Bush looking very, very concerned as he kind 278 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,660 you know, sternly looks out the window from his airplane. 279 00:20:38,540 --> 00:20:43,340 His aides say the president looked grim and his fists were clenched as he looked 280 00:20:43,340 --> 00:20:44,340 at the damage. 281 00:20:45,620 --> 00:20:47,060 Can you talk about George Bush? 282 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:53,060 I could, but I ain't seen him. Shit. He flew over 35 ,000 feet, looked out the 283 00:20:53,060 --> 00:20:54,500 window and said, damn, that shit looked bad. 284 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:55,720 Then he kept going. 285 00:21:01,740 --> 00:21:05,020 The people in the affected regions expect the federal government to work 286 00:21:05,020 --> 00:21:07,320 the state government and local government with an effective response. 287 00:21:09,580 --> 00:21:15,220 I have directed Secretary of Homeland Security Mike Chertoff to chair a 288 00:21:15,220 --> 00:21:16,300 -level task force. 289 00:21:16,620 --> 00:21:20,140 We are extremely pleased with the response that every element of the 290 00:21:20,140 --> 00:21:24,360 government, all of our federal partners, have made to this terrible tragedy. 291 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,880 It takes logistics to solve the freaking problem. 292 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,960 And none of those fucking politicians are trained to do that. 293 00:21:36,300 --> 00:21:38,460 That's why you need assholes like me around. 294 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:47,860 When I learned the surge had breached the levee, I was the closest Army 295 00:21:47,860 --> 00:21:52,580 commander to the problem. And there was some solace in the fact that I was a 296 00:21:52,580 --> 00:21:53,580 Louisiana guy. 297 00:21:55,740 --> 00:22:02,620 So Tuesday evening, I think it was around 7 o 'clock or 1900 military time, 298 00:22:02,620 --> 00:22:06,660 when I was told that I would lead Task Force Katrina. 299 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,640 Okay. 300 00:22:10,020 --> 00:22:11,020 Find me. 301 00:22:11,370 --> 00:22:12,370 helicopter support. 302 00:22:13,730 --> 00:22:20,110 So the next morning, I got operational command of the USS Baton and its 303 00:22:20,110 --> 00:22:25,150 helicopters, and we flew in to New Orleans. 304 00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:29,830 It was devastating. 305 00:22:34,210 --> 00:22:39,550 We established our tactical command post right at the Superdome. 306 00:22:42,090 --> 00:22:46,030 I sat with the mayor and told him we were here to assist. 307 00:22:47,230 --> 00:22:50,090 He said, well, the general priority is to get the people out of here. 308 00:22:50,670 --> 00:22:52,850 I said, okay, I need to go talk to the governor. 309 00:22:55,750 --> 00:23:00,250 And the governor told me to my face on Wednesday, tell the president to send 310 00:23:00,250 --> 00:23:01,350 everything he got we needed. 311 00:23:02,090 --> 00:23:04,850 Because she was very concerned about security of the city. 312 00:23:05,670 --> 00:23:07,890 Every disaster, security come up. 313 00:23:08,530 --> 00:23:10,950 I said, imagine how pissed off those people would be. 314 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:16,160 If I brought troops to watch them, to focus on security as opposed to 315 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,460 them, I said, we need to get the evacuation done before we deploy troops. 316 00:23:21,900 --> 00:23:26,780 Mike Brown had a headquarters adjacent to the governor's headquarters, and he 317 00:23:26,780 --> 00:23:29,060 cordially showed me where my desk was. 318 00:23:29,380 --> 00:23:32,420 He said, I want you right here so we could have unified command. 319 00:23:33,220 --> 00:23:35,180 And I said, well, the problem's in the city. 320 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,080 You can have that fucking desk. I'm going. 321 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,480 after Hurricane Katrina, and the situation is getting more desperate by 322 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,480 minute. 323 00:23:46,940 --> 00:23:49,100 Thousands are still stranded in misery. 324 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,300 We've been out here for three days. 325 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,300 We've been asking for help. 326 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:58,320 They've been telling us the bus is going to come. What the fuck is they doing? 327 00:23:59,220 --> 00:24:02,420 Some people were still trying to go to the Superdome. 328 00:24:02,780 --> 00:24:06,800 We came from the Superdome, past the Superdome, all the way to where the 329 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,360 breached at. We've been walking in deep water, everything. 330 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,440 But the police, they're telling you go to the convention center. 331 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,060 Somebody heard the bushes sending buses down there. 332 00:24:16,340 --> 00:24:20,200 Buses are on the way to take those people from New Orleans to Houston. 333 00:24:20,420 --> 00:24:22,560 So let's try the convention center. 334 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,860 It's about a two -mile walk. 335 00:24:31,020 --> 00:24:37,520 When we made it to the convention center, there was nothing. 336 00:24:39,370 --> 00:24:42,070 No means to get anybody anywhere. We have no medical attention. 337 00:24:42,490 --> 00:24:44,970 The government hasn't sent us anything. 338 00:24:45,270 --> 00:24:46,270 No kidding. 339 00:24:46,550 --> 00:24:49,230 We didn't have any food, any water, anything. 340 00:24:51,890 --> 00:24:53,650 They had dead bodies there. 341 00:24:54,010 --> 00:24:57,110 We got to get away from here. We have no water. 342 00:24:57,690 --> 00:25:01,830 And my brother and sister, it was real dehydrated. They needed to get something 343 00:25:01,830 --> 00:25:02,830 to drink. 344 00:25:05,790 --> 00:25:07,550 Everybody just was sitting around. 345 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,320 Waiting for help. 346 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:23,480 After 9 -11, 347 00:25:23,780 --> 00:25:29,640 we gave the president unprecedented powers to take care of New York and 348 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:35,840 places. You mean to tell me that we can't figure out a way to authorize the 349 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,380 resources that we need? 350 00:25:38,090 --> 00:25:42,050 Excuse my French, everybody in America, but I am pissed. 351 00:25:42,610 --> 00:25:46,790 Now, I will tell you this, and I give the president some credit on this. 352 00:25:46,990 --> 00:25:51,890 He sent one John Wayne dude down here that could get some stuff done, and his 353 00:25:51,890 --> 00:25:53,510 name is General Honoré. 354 00:25:57,910 --> 00:26:02,530 Louisiana had a contingency contract for buses to come in, and when the city 355 00:26:02,530 --> 00:26:03,730 flooded, everything... 356 00:26:03,980 --> 00:26:09,080 Stop until we could get a sense of where buses could come in and where they 357 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,140 could pick people up. 358 00:26:12,860 --> 00:26:18,200 So it was taking time to get the buses and the aircraft to float. 359 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,800 I talked to the governor. I said, well, you got a lot of school buses. 360 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,940 I remember telling me, well, some of the parishes still have schools. I said, 361 00:26:28,980 --> 00:26:29,980 well, close the schools. 362 00:26:34,220 --> 00:26:38,380 Some of the parishes gave up their buses but didn't send their drivers in 363 00:26:38,380 --> 00:26:40,100 because of fear. 364 00:26:40,940 --> 00:26:44,900 Because what they were hearing on the news was New Orleans is out of control. 365 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:46,980 People are standing around. 366 00:26:49,220 --> 00:26:51,780 Well, all they wanted to do was get their ass out of the city. 367 00:26:55,860 --> 00:27:00,300 15 ,000 people in the city's convention center alone. 368 00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:10,500 Can you do anything to help these people? We have people coming to help. 369 00:27:11,020 --> 00:27:12,020 Who's coming? 370 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:19,200 How many days before your operation finds these people, gets them out of 371 00:27:19,380 --> 00:27:22,260 Well, first let me tell you, there have been deliveries of food, water, and 372 00:27:22,260 --> 00:27:24,360 medical supplies to the Superdome, and that's happened. 373 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,440 almost from the very beginning. But this is the convention center. These are 374 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,660 people who are not allowed inside the Superdome. 375 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,660 I have not heard a report of thousands of people in the convention center who 376 00:27:34,660 --> 00:27:35,660 don't have food and water. 377 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,720 So you're not telling me you just learned that the folks at the convention 378 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,800 center didn't have food and water until today, are you? 379 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:48,320 Paula, people who were unable or chose not to evacuate, those people have 380 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,320 suddenly appeared. 381 00:27:49,580 --> 00:27:54,120 Is that fair to blame the victims, many of whom tell us they had no way out? 382 00:27:54,510 --> 00:27:59,990 We tried to cross the Geno Bridge to get to the West Bank, but once you got up 383 00:27:59,990 --> 00:28:02,930 there, the police turned you back around and told you to go back to the 384 00:28:02,930 --> 00:28:04,770 convention center. We couldn't go across the river. 385 00:28:05,450 --> 00:28:10,430 They were met by a line of armed Gretna policemen who fired shotguns over their 386 00:28:10,430 --> 00:28:12,070 heads and turned them back. 387 00:28:12,850 --> 00:28:18,630 Police arrested this desperate family who'd stolen a car, saying they just 388 00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:19,630 wanted out. 389 00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:28,720 Some people just started to go to the garage and high -wire your cars and get 390 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,020 out of there and take their family. 391 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,960 And my dad, I remember, he didn't know how to high -wire your car, you know. 392 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:40,540 So I pulled my mom to the side and I said, Mom, just tell me or we're going 393 00:28:40,540 --> 00:28:41,540 die. 394 00:28:42,340 --> 00:28:48,540 I just couldn't believe, you know, my country. The world just keep moving and 395 00:28:48,540 --> 00:28:49,720 just, we're stuck. 396 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,160 Is anybody going to come help us? What's the problem? Why? 397 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,500 I felt lost. You know, I felt like I was never going to make it out. 398 00:29:01,380 --> 00:29:03,600 We seen that the water wasn't rising anymore. 399 00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:08,480 Now, my grandmother suggested that we go back to our original house. 400 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,300 And we got back to the house. 401 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,860 The men, they went out into the water to go, like, get in stores to get, like, 402 00:29:17,860 --> 00:29:18,860 supplies, food. 403 00:29:20,399 --> 00:29:23,740 People said they got to get what they can get because people running out of 404 00:29:23,740 --> 00:29:27,540 food, people running out of water. Well, they're giving us food. Thank the Lord 405 00:29:27,540 --> 00:29:28,540 for that. 406 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,840 As you know, we're getting reports that perhaps the death toll will go into the 407 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,440 thousands. Well, I think the death toll may go into the thousands, and I don't 408 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,880 make judgments about why people choose not to evacuate. 409 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,080 I'm not going to sit here and second guess why or why not the city didn't 410 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,080 buses available. 411 00:29:45,140 --> 00:29:49,220 I'm not asking you, Mr. Brown, why the city didn't have buses available. 412 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,020 I'm asking you why you didn't have National Guards in there with trucks to 413 00:29:53,020 --> 00:29:55,740 them out there. Why you haven't done it to this day. 414 00:29:57,260 --> 00:30:01,400 Where is the aid? It's the question people keep asking us on camera. 415 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,840 Brian, it's an absolutely fair question. And I got to tell you from the bottom 416 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,760 of my heart how sad I feel for those people. The federal government just 417 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,000 about those people today. 418 00:30:12,260 --> 00:30:17,160 And I've got to tell you, we are moving heaven and earth to give pallets of food 419 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,420 and water to those people. 420 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,700 I've watched all day long the stories of the people who are causing trouble, who 421 00:30:22,700 --> 00:30:27,480 are, you know, screaming and yelling about things and just being thugs. 422 00:30:28,220 --> 00:30:29,720 Try to get y 'all some water, bro. 423 00:30:32,730 --> 00:30:36,310 There will be 30 ,000 National Guard troops in New Orleans. 424 00:30:36,550 --> 00:30:41,510 I am going to take control of that, and we are going to make certain that this 425 00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:42,510 city is safe. 426 00:30:42,850 --> 00:30:47,890 I think officials were more than happy to move off of their incompetence to the 427 00:30:47,890 --> 00:30:52,250 unruly folks here are out of control. And you know what we do well? We do 428 00:30:52,250 --> 00:30:55,490 control. The police will manage it. We're coming in. We've got guns. 429 00:30:56,070 --> 00:30:57,070 Drop it! 430 00:30:57,370 --> 00:30:58,370 Drop it! 431 00:30:59,500 --> 00:31:03,380 I've already called for martial law in the city of New Orleans. We redirected 432 00:31:03,380 --> 00:31:06,040 all of our police officers back to patrolling the streets. 433 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,600 They were dead tired from saving people. 434 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:15,120 TV news loves a crime story more than almost anything else. So the idea that 435 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,680 would turn to covering crime pretty quickly didn't surprise me. 436 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,000 We all did it, me included. 437 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,780 I bet. All right. Thanks, Suzanne. 438 00:31:24,650 --> 00:31:28,110 Well, as New Orleans struggles with the devastation, authorities must contend 439 00:31:28,110 --> 00:31:31,410 with yet another problem, restoring order in a city that's now ravaged by 440 00:31:31,410 --> 00:31:35,090 widespread looting. But it was also how they were framed. This is a picture 441 00:31:35,090 --> 00:31:38,250 we'll show you right here, and it shows a black man, and the caption underneath 442 00:31:38,250 --> 00:31:42,370 it says this, a young man walks through chest -deep water after looting a 443 00:31:42,370 --> 00:31:43,370 grocery store. 444 00:31:43,490 --> 00:31:47,290 And then you have this picture that shows two white people, two residents 445 00:31:47,290 --> 00:31:50,230 through chest -deep water after finding bread and soda. 446 00:31:50,450 --> 00:31:53,150 They were literally doing the exact same thing. 447 00:31:53,610 --> 00:31:56,950 For many, it's the only way to get drinking water or food. 448 00:31:57,230 --> 00:32:04,050 But for others, it's high crime. Some people stole 449 00:32:04,050 --> 00:32:06,350 guns and used them to break into other stores. 450 00:32:10,650 --> 00:32:15,590 By Thursday, we had gotten a few thousand people out of the Superdome and 451 00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:16,590 started to flow. 452 00:32:16,770 --> 00:32:20,210 I just thank God for living, baby. Thank God for the people that's helping us. 453 00:32:20,650 --> 00:32:22,050 That didn't last long. 454 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,680 Because when the scene meets your perception, a lot of black people, a lot 455 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,960 poor black people, you got to be scared of them. They got to be doing something 456 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:38,880 wrong. Chaos reigned at the Superdome and fights broke out as thousands 457 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,900 inside and outside, frantically awaiting bus transportation. 458 00:32:43,220 --> 00:32:48,160 A few busloads did make it out, but the operation shut down when someone shot at 459 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,160 rescue helicopters. 460 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,040 When that hit the news. 461 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,120 I got a call from the White House, and the White House said, if there are 462 00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:00,440 snipers in the city, the president may take the city over. 463 00:33:01,140 --> 00:33:05,460 I said, no, there's no snipers here. They said, well, go verify that. 464 00:33:07,700 --> 00:33:08,700 Well, guess what? 465 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,980 People would see a helicopter flying, and they were isolated. 466 00:33:12,909 --> 00:33:16,250 And they take the shotgun, shoot it in the air, think they'd get the helicopter 467 00:33:16,250 --> 00:33:19,290 attention. Again, reality from what we see on TV. 468 00:33:19,510 --> 00:33:24,990 Reporter from our affiliate station WDSU, Ed Reams, said the unrest is so 469 00:33:24,990 --> 00:33:27,210 that his boss ordered him to leave the city. 470 00:33:27,450 --> 00:33:30,910 He said the looting was starting to get so out of control, our general manager 471 00:33:30,910 --> 00:33:32,590 is fearing for our lives. 472 00:33:35,150 --> 00:33:38,970 Matter of fact, I had to make a call to my friend, the governor. She had done a 473 00:33:38,970 --> 00:33:39,970 news conference. 474 00:33:40,270 --> 00:33:45,010 and said that she's ordered a National Guard going in tomorrow to shoot, to 475 00:33:45,010 --> 00:33:46,010 if somebody's looting. 476 00:33:46,590 --> 00:33:52,350 These troops know how to shoot and kill, and they are more than willing to do 477 00:33:52,350 --> 00:33:58,350 so. We will do what it takes to bring law and order. This is not a time or a 478 00:33:58,350 --> 00:34:05,130 place for any of that behavior, and I am just furious. This is intolerant. So I 479 00:34:05,130 --> 00:34:08,870 called her up and said, Governor, you don't want to ever tell your people to 480 00:34:08,870 --> 00:34:09,870 shoot your people. 481 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,920 We struggle if people go and lose stores and they're bringing us the juices and 482 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,440 eggs, they're about to kill us. Then we're going to have nothing. We feed the 483 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,159 church. Tell you, if you stood there from Saturday and it's now Thursday and 484 00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:25,659 you're still waiting on a fucking bus, I'm not sure if you call that looting 485 00:34:25,659 --> 00:34:28,820 when people go in the store to get food and water. Everybody going to go into 486 00:34:28,820 --> 00:34:33,080 survival mode. Should police be focusing on the looters at this point? We would 487 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,820 later learn when they would examine crime statistics in the city that 488 00:34:37,820 --> 00:34:43,340 the narrative of like, oh my God, crime is out of control and now police have to 489 00:34:43,340 --> 00:34:44,340 patrol the streets. 490 00:34:45,050 --> 00:34:46,190 It just wasn't accurate. 491 00:34:46,610 --> 00:34:50,370 But people are armed, and so there was a lot of a sense of, I'm going to go and 492 00:34:50,370 --> 00:34:51,870 protect my home. 493 00:34:52,170 --> 00:34:54,989 Some people have taken the law into their own hands. 494 00:34:55,230 --> 00:34:58,790 They're right down there stealing boats, breaking in our store here. 495 00:34:59,990 --> 00:35:05,130 There was so much misinformation and hysteria. It literally led to people 496 00:35:05,130 --> 00:35:06,130 getting shot. 497 00:35:08,250 --> 00:35:12,950 One of my neighbors told me that they're evacuating people at the ferry. 498 00:35:13,470 --> 00:35:14,590 from the LJS Point. 499 00:35:17,630 --> 00:35:21,950 And that was an area that I wasn't too familiar with. 500 00:35:27,130 --> 00:35:29,970 I didn't really make none of it. I just kept walking. 501 00:35:33,610 --> 00:35:38,930 Before you know it, I was on the ground. 502 00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:42,470 I didn't even know what hit me. 503 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,280 But now I'm kind of, like, snapping out of it a little bit. 504 00:35:47,620 --> 00:35:51,380 And I see a guy with a shotgun in his hand. 505 00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:53,680 I don't even know where he came from. 506 00:35:54,580 --> 00:35:56,120 And he let off another shot. 507 00:35:57,380 --> 00:36:03,280 Now I hit the ground again and stumbled to the corner on the next block. 508 00:36:03,780 --> 00:36:09,160 And I came across a couple black people who was living in the area. 509 00:36:14,490 --> 00:36:17,030 From there to West Jeff Hospital. 510 00:36:18,370 --> 00:36:22,610 This hospital typically gets one or two gunshot victims over a 30 -day period. 511 00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:25,850 But in just a few days following Katrina... Six to ten. 512 00:36:26,290 --> 00:36:27,750 So that's pretty unusual. Yes. 513 00:36:27,990 --> 00:36:34,430 It was after the fact that I started hearing these stories about 514 00:36:34,430 --> 00:36:35,430 Algiers Point. 515 00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:39,350 Algiers Point is not a pushy community. 516 00:36:40,450 --> 00:36:41,930 A few white guys. 517 00:36:43,060 --> 00:36:46,040 was shooting at people or shooting at black people. 518 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,640 We shot them. 519 00:36:49,580 --> 00:36:52,660 They were looters. It was great. 520 00:36:53,020 --> 00:36:56,100 It was like pheasant season in South Dakota. 521 00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:58,660 If it moved, you shot it. 522 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:06,400 Later, the FBI got involved in all of that because, of course, 523 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:07,480 it was a hate crime. 524 00:37:07,660 --> 00:37:10,920 Federal prosecutors say 56 -year -old Roland Bourgeois Jr. 525 00:37:11,140 --> 00:37:13,820 fired a shotgun at three black men who were trying to evacuate. 526 00:37:14,140 --> 00:37:17,600 Reports say he and others discussed shooting black people and defending 527 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:18,600 Point from outsiders. 528 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,520 He pled guilty under a plea agreement and faces up to 10 years in prison. 529 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,500 Right now, when I think about that story, it makes me mad. You know what I 530 00:37:27,980 --> 00:37:29,500 We all in this together. 531 00:37:29,740 --> 00:37:33,020 Like, it's a common thing. We trying to evacuate. 532 00:37:34,220 --> 00:37:35,220 You know what I'm saying? 533 00:37:36,570 --> 00:37:40,030 Pull a shotgun in, you know, and you shoot me? 534 00:37:40,290 --> 00:37:44,370 We're not doing anything wrong. We're not looting or we're not doing, you 535 00:37:44,370 --> 00:37:45,370 none of that stuff. 536 00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:47,010 We're trying to get to the ferry. 537 00:37:49,070 --> 00:37:54,570 Today, a full four days after the storm hit, more federal aid finally started 538 00:37:54,570 --> 00:37:55,570 arriving in the area. 539 00:37:57,450 --> 00:38:02,390 The National Guard also brought their guns and are under orders to take back 540 00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:03,650 violent streets of the city. 541 00:38:04,270 --> 00:38:08,750 Thousands of storm victims remain stranded without food or water and no 542 00:38:08,750 --> 00:38:13,190 go. And at the same time, looting, carjacking and other violence goes on, 543 00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:14,650 even rescuers being attacked. 544 00:38:15,210 --> 00:38:20,110 President Bush has been in Mobile, Alabama for about the last 10 or 15 545 00:38:20,110 --> 00:38:24,250 to get a firsthand look at what the hurricane did and what the government is 546 00:38:24,250 --> 00:38:25,249 doing to help. 547 00:38:25,250 --> 00:38:26,650 Since Monday, we've made progress. 548 00:38:26,910 --> 00:38:30,730 We've made little progress every day. But we're told at this point he may only 549 00:38:30,730 --> 00:38:32,830 tour New Orleans by helicopter. 550 00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:38,130 This is dangerous territory, and a decision has not yet been made, frankly, 551 00:38:38,130 --> 00:38:42,330 to whether it is safe. We are going to restore order in the city of New 552 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,940 And the federal government, John, is big and it's massive and we're going to do 553 00:38:46,940 --> 00:38:48,920 it. And, Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job. 554 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,900 The FEMA director is working 24 hours a day. 555 00:38:55,700 --> 00:39:00,020 Despite the firestorm of criticism, President Bush is standing by his man at 556 00:39:00,020 --> 00:39:05,580 FEMA. No one knew who Michael Brown was until the president said, you're doing a 557 00:39:05,580 --> 00:39:06,580 heck of a job, Brownie. 558 00:39:07,260 --> 00:39:11,120 So then I think people said, well, who is Brownie? This was his biggest job 559 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,320 before joining FEMA. 560 00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:15,590 commissioner of the International Arabian Horse Association. 561 00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:21,250 Association officials tell NBC News that Brown resigned under pressure from the 562 00:39:21,250 --> 00:39:25,530 horse show job, and that many who worked with him were stunned when he became 563 00:39:25,530 --> 00:39:26,750 director of FEMA. 564 00:39:27,110 --> 00:39:31,090 It's rather interesting. You had two Republican governors there, both of whom 565 00:39:31,090 --> 00:39:36,570 said the federal government is doing a great job, very much in contrast to the 566 00:39:36,570 --> 00:39:38,730 statements coming out of New Orleans. 567 00:39:57,150 --> 00:40:01,650 When the National Guard was there at the convention center, they just had their 568 00:40:01,650 --> 00:40:03,130 rifles pointed down at us. 569 00:40:03,870 --> 00:40:06,910 I felt like we were treated as criminals. 570 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,780 As the days went on, the tensions was getting really high in the Superdome. 571 00:40:15,580 --> 00:40:19,000 Something happened where the National Guard fired around. 572 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,020 We knew everybody ducked, and we knew everybody started charging and running, 573 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:31,940 because I was one of them. With that happening, this guy named 574 00:40:31,940 --> 00:40:34,720 Redio, he was like, man, we got to come together. 575 00:40:51,820 --> 00:40:54,560 So next thing you know, started marching and singing. 576 00:40:59,540 --> 00:41:00,900 And I'm singing with them. 577 00:41:01,220 --> 00:41:04,500 And it felt good. 578 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,840 It's like just for a few minutes, we was able to erase what we was going 579 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:10,840 through. 580 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,400 Next thing you know, it changed drastically. 581 00:41:39,310 --> 00:41:41,450 I once was lost, now I'm found, like we was lost. 582 00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:43,570 I was waiting to be found. 583 00:41:47,150 --> 00:41:47,470 I 584 00:41:47,470 --> 00:41:57,410 think 585 00:41:57,410 --> 00:42:01,710 I'm one of the first people, I say, to escape, to get out of there, because 586 00:42:01,710 --> 00:42:03,450 there are too many people to pay attention to. 587 00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:15,480 We slept on the floor in the convention center probably about four days, I want 588 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,480 to say. 589 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:26,020 So we just started walking, and we saw a lady with an RTA bus. 590 00:42:26,860 --> 00:42:30,380 I ran and ran to that bus. 591 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,440 She said she worked for the RTA company, and she took a bus from her job. 592 00:42:38,570 --> 00:42:42,170 We just was riding and riding until we wind up in Lafayette. 593 00:42:42,650 --> 00:42:46,650 The state has opened up the Cajun Dome down in Lafayette. Apparently there is 6 594 00:42:46,650 --> 00:42:47,950 ,000 evacuees there. 595 00:42:48,850 --> 00:42:54,230 I remember walking to the Cajun Dome with my family. They gave us some 596 00:42:54,750 --> 00:42:58,050 a shower, food, and things like that. 597 00:43:01,270 --> 00:43:04,550 We just was lost, lost everything. 598 00:43:09,930 --> 00:43:14,950 Once you get out of danger, now you're glued to the TV to see who's left 599 00:43:15,090 --> 00:43:16,090 That was me. 600 00:43:16,210 --> 00:43:17,930 I was thinking about those people. 601 00:43:19,310 --> 00:43:24,630 This is a city built on the coast in an area that has hurricanes in it, that is 602 00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:27,190 built below sea levels, and that is a soup bowl. 603 00:43:27,790 --> 00:43:31,330 People have talked for years about, you know, whether it makes sense to have a 604 00:43:31,330 --> 00:43:32,330 city like that. 605 00:43:32,830 --> 00:43:33,830 Well, there you have it. 606 00:43:34,510 --> 00:43:37,570 New Orleans is to blame for existing. 607 00:43:38,460 --> 00:43:41,620 There are, of course, five stages of grief. Denial, anger, bargaining, 608 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,960 depression, and acceptance. The White House has denial covered. So most 609 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,400 celebrities moved right along to anger. 610 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:53,000 Like this moment from NBC's Benefit Telephone, where Mike Myers was 611 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,600 mismatched with rapper Kanye West. 612 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,360 See if you can figure out which one of them went off script. 613 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,960 The destruction of the spirit of the people of southern Louisiana and 614 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,900 Mississippi may end up being the most tragic loss of all. 615 00:44:06,410 --> 00:44:08,550 George Bush doesn't care about black people. 616 00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:17,710 When he said that, it almost felt like relief, like, man, somebody spoke on it. 617 00:44:17,890 --> 00:44:22,610 We already realized a lot of the people that could help are at war right now, 618 00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:27,330 fighting another way, and they've given them permission to go down and shoot us. 619 00:44:29,590 --> 00:44:32,470 Help finally arrived. Military helicopters. 620 00:44:32,690 --> 00:44:34,310 This family was among the first aboard. 621 00:44:34,970 --> 00:44:36,830 but not without getting frisked first. 622 00:44:41,590 --> 00:44:48,430 Even if you are visually impaired, on a minimal 623 00:44:48,430 --> 00:44:50,430 scale, you could see that shit. 624 00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:58,750 If you're a one -pass -eye fucking pirate, you can look and see that this 625 00:44:58,750 --> 00:44:59,750 was racial. 626 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,820 Your troops that are coming in, they've been hearing and watching the news, and 627 00:45:05,820 --> 00:45:09,140 there's a perception that there's danger in New Orleans. 628 00:45:09,860 --> 00:45:12,920 That's the perception we fought the whole fucking time. 629 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,360 And the mission of the military is to defend the people of the United States. 630 00:45:22,540 --> 00:45:25,640 We're going to treat people with respect, and we're going to get them out 631 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:26,640 goddamn city. 632 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,380 What I learned in my military training is when you're in the front of the 633 00:45:32,380 --> 00:45:33,840 camera, you're talking to the American people. 634 00:45:34,900 --> 00:45:40,240 And much of that is to push aside the bullshit. 635 00:45:41,500 --> 00:45:42,500 So I went on TV. 636 00:45:54,960 --> 00:46:01,440 We went with him all day yesterday throughout New Orleans for about 20 637 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:08,080 does not want this to look like Iraq. He says this is a humanitarian 638 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,400 relief mission. 639 00:46:09,820 --> 00:46:12,920 And I just told him, put your goddamn guns down. 640 00:46:13,900 --> 00:46:17,760 I mean, I'm a goddamn lieutenant general. You a sergeant, a captain, put 641 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,760 fucking guns down. 642 00:46:19,780 --> 00:46:20,780 And he listened. 643 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,040 And the police did the same thing. 644 00:46:29,799 --> 00:46:32,960 People hadn't seen an Army commander operate in the U .S. 645 00:46:33,340 --> 00:46:35,060 in modern TV time. 646 00:46:37,220 --> 00:46:43,980 It really felt like, okay, we're on the next phase 647 00:46:43,980 --> 00:46:49,100 now. And it's going to be a good phase because this guy seems to know what the 648 00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:49,859 hell he's doing. 649 00:46:49,860 --> 00:46:53,380 Have the guys put it on the ground and send these trucks back for another load. 650 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:54,480 Yes, sir. 651 00:47:10,190 --> 00:47:15,930 What you see in New Orleans is really a combination of both hope and misery. 652 00:47:19,330 --> 00:47:20,090 When 653 00:47:20,090 --> 00:47:33,950 it 654 00:47:33,950 --> 00:47:39,650 was time for the rest of the evacuation, five or six days, After the storm, 655 00:47:39,950 --> 00:47:46,470 the people are going to come through the hallway that connected the Hyatt 656 00:47:46,470 --> 00:47:49,110 to New Orleans Center and then to the Dome. 657 00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:55,970 All I could think of was all the horror stories I'd been hearing about what was 658 00:47:55,970 --> 00:48:00,350 going on in the Dome. Lack of water, lack of food, folks going crazy, 659 00:48:00,350 --> 00:48:01,630 and all these things going on. 660 00:48:02,310 --> 00:48:06,590 Make one single line and keep your family members together. 661 00:48:07,110 --> 00:48:08,150 Then they opened the door. 662 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,080 It looked like the other concentration camps where human beings were just 663 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,160 treated really badly, inhuman. 664 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:26,000 That's the look of 80 % of the folks who came out of that shell shot, 665 00:48:26,220 --> 00:48:27,900 eyes wide open. 666 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:38,560 And to be quite honest, I haven't probably done this in 20 years, 667 00:48:39,230 --> 00:48:45,550 I don't live my life looking in the rearview mirror, but it still kind of 668 00:48:45,550 --> 00:48:46,550 with you. 669 00:48:47,070 --> 00:48:53,670 And that was probably the hardest part. 670 00:49:02,110 --> 00:49:06,770 What happened is... 671 00:49:08,030 --> 00:49:14,950 The original flow group that was at the Superdome, most of those people 672 00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:17,290 moved. Then we had more people come in. 673 00:49:17,890 --> 00:49:22,550 Right. And then we got the convention center, which is, we got the outside 674 00:49:22,550 --> 00:49:23,890 center. How many of you think we moved there? 675 00:49:24,810 --> 00:49:26,030 Oh, I had that number. 676 00:49:26,930 --> 00:49:29,730 This morning at 4 o 'clock, it was 15 ,000. 677 00:49:53,070 --> 00:49:56,970 It's now been six days since Katrina hit, and this morning the Superdome and 678 00:49:56,970 --> 00:49:58,810 Convention Center are nearly empty. 679 00:49:59,070 --> 00:50:02,270 But Louisiana State Police continue to field hundreds of calls from people 680 00:50:02,270 --> 00:50:06,530 trapped in attics, and New Orleans officials say 40 ,000 people may still 681 00:50:06,530 --> 00:50:07,530 the city. 682 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:15,320 time in this game we might be losing 50 to nothing but I'm gonna focus on this 683 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,720 next half there's still people hiding in the top of the houses if we could see 684 00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:23,980 to see them we'll go to them at 685 00:50:23,980 --> 00:50:35,120 this 686 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:39,200 point I'm still in a minor shock I'm like okay how am I gonna how are we 687 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,210 get out of here Everybody felt devastated. 688 00:50:42,450 --> 00:50:43,770 We felt, you know, tired, hungry. 689 00:50:44,110 --> 00:50:45,370 People just get aggravated. 690 00:50:45,910 --> 00:50:49,870 You know, being in one, closing one every one small spot. 691 00:50:50,490 --> 00:50:51,490 We prayed together. 692 00:50:52,190 --> 00:50:55,410 You know, we tried to read books. Anything just to keep our mind off of 693 00:50:55,410 --> 00:50:56,410 actually going on outside. 694 00:50:58,590 --> 00:51:00,970 Our neighbors, they had like a little garage. 695 00:51:02,170 --> 00:51:03,370 So I got up there. 696 00:51:03,730 --> 00:51:06,030 We had a big sign. We just wrote help on it. 697 00:51:09,550 --> 00:51:10,550 They saw my son. 698 00:51:36,270 --> 00:51:38,690 We got to the lakefront airport. 699 00:51:43,530 --> 00:51:44,488 We're broken. 700 00:51:44,490 --> 00:51:46,390 We smell like shit and piss. 701 00:51:46,610 --> 00:51:50,010 I ain't take a bath in six or seven days. 702 00:51:51,650 --> 00:51:56,190 There's a thousand and something freaking people packed in the airport. 703 00:52:07,690 --> 00:52:12,510 In New Orleans, more evacuees are heading out, ready to somehow, 704 00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:13,710 start over. 705 00:52:25,450 --> 00:52:26,690 We get to San Antonio. 706 00:52:27,830 --> 00:52:30,850 I fell to my knees and I just started crying. 707 00:52:36,780 --> 00:52:41,920 the gate, if you will, a breach in Phyllis happened. 708 00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:45,340 You know, that was my levee breach. It was a Phyllis breach. 709 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,780 And if you have not yet registered, may you need to do so to receive benefits. 710 00:52:51,260 --> 00:52:54,000 No registration equals no help. 711 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,540 Of the hundreds of thousands of evacuees from the hurricane zone, most have gone 712 00:52:59,540 --> 00:53:03,320 to Texas, and many are desperate to contact missing relatives. 713 00:53:03,770 --> 00:53:07,690 At this point, we're not able to locate my family. Nobody. 714 00:53:08,790 --> 00:53:13,330 We're just going from shelter to shelter, holding up poster boards with 715 00:53:13,330 --> 00:53:14,470 grandmother's name on it. 716 00:53:15,230 --> 00:53:17,850 Have you seen checking in with registries? 717 00:53:18,590 --> 00:53:22,650 Red Cross is registering evacuees at shelters so family members across the 718 00:53:22,650 --> 00:53:25,090 country can call and find out where their loved ones are. 719 00:53:25,490 --> 00:53:27,410 We called and we called and we called. 720 00:53:27,610 --> 00:53:33,820 1 -877 - loved ones just like it sounds l -o -v -e -d the number one and s 721 00:53:33,820 --> 00:53:40,560 you start to think did they make it out did they drown are they one of those 722 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:47,280 bodies that's floating in the water that they're showing on tv there 723 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:53,700 are bodies floating in the water yes and to people who say you got to move 724 00:53:53,700 --> 00:53:58,840 faster you got to do more when are you going to get that cleaned up you say 725 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:06,640 Well, right now, I could either have these troops go do this 726 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,960 or move the living. 727 00:54:14,500 --> 00:54:20,020 I think it may have been another two or three days before my phone rang. 728 00:54:22,980 --> 00:54:24,580 They were in San Antonio. 729 00:54:28,759 --> 00:54:32,840 Ladies and gentlemen, my brother just walked up to us, right up in here, just 730 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,740 reunited himself with us. And I just thank God for that. Come on, man, 731 00:54:35,740 --> 00:54:38,420 just go ahead on and just get up. Get up here. 732 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:39,680 You heard me. 733 00:54:40,820 --> 00:54:43,660 I am here to be with your brother right now. 734 00:54:44,420 --> 00:54:45,700 I am here to be with him. 735 00:54:46,740 --> 00:54:47,900 They can't pick this up. 736 00:54:50,260 --> 00:54:55,720 Everybody's mind just went, you know, we can actually inhale, exhale. 737 00:54:56,190 --> 00:54:58,990 You know, it was a sense of, all right, we're good now, but what's the next 738 00:54:58,990 --> 00:55:00,730 plan? We still didn't know what was going on. 739 00:55:01,290 --> 00:55:05,230 Your evacuation plan, obviously in hindsight, was disastrous. 740 00:55:05,610 --> 00:55:09,050 You bear the brunt of the blame for some of this, a large chunk of it. 741 00:55:09,310 --> 00:55:13,270 Look, I'll take whatever responsibility that I have to take. 742 00:55:13,490 --> 00:55:17,450 You tell me what else we could have done. What has Secretary Chertoff 743 00:55:17,450 --> 00:55:20,890 you? What has Donald Rumsfeld given you and promised you? Look, I've gotten 744 00:55:20,890 --> 00:55:22,270 promises to... 745 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,800 I can't stand anymore promises. I don't want to hear any more promises. I want 746 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:27,800 to see stuff done. 747 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:34,040 More than 1 ,800 people died during Hurricane Katrina in the days following 748 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,040 devastating storm. 749 00:55:39,140 --> 00:55:44,160 More were displaced, many never to return, and entire communities lay in 750 00:55:46,399 --> 00:55:50,080 What assurance can you give refugees if they'll ever be able to come back, 751 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,940 especially people in poor areas? First of all, they're not refugees. They're 752 00:55:53,940 --> 00:55:55,140 citizens of the city of New Orleans. 753 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,280 Through the work of FEMA, we're going to rebuild this city. 754 00:55:59,500 --> 00:56:02,360 Through the work of the federal government, through the work of the 755 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,860 this city and the state, we're going to rebuild this city, and they will have a 756 00:56:04,860 --> 00:56:06,060 great city to come back home to. 757 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:14,760 Real talk, man. 758 00:56:14,890 --> 00:56:19,150 It's hard to even come here before the levees broke. 759 00:56:19,510 --> 00:56:24,010 This spot, it was cool for us. We was able to chill, and he loved it here. 760 00:56:27,070 --> 00:56:31,190 I used to ride the hollies up and down the street, or sometimes I might go on 761 00:56:31,190 --> 00:56:32,190 the levee. 762 00:56:33,310 --> 00:56:38,170 I'd come inside and mainly be with my grandmother and just be around her while 763 00:56:38,170 --> 00:56:39,170 she cook. 764 00:56:42,210 --> 00:56:43,970 So it was just like this. 765 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,860 Family good vibes, man. Family good vibes. 766 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,780 Yeah, a lot of good times, man. 767 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,300 A lot of good people, a lot of barbecues, a lot of crab balls, a lot of 768 00:56:54,300 --> 00:56:55,300 balls. 769 00:57:05,380 --> 00:57:08,820 I've stood with hundreds of people whose houses were in the water. 770 00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:13,240 People I met during Katrina and years after. 771 00:57:13,740 --> 00:57:17,620 Those who survive recovery, no recovery is a living hell. 772 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,260 Lower Ninth is still struggling to rebuild five years after the storm. 773 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,080 I have flashes. 774 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:32,400 It's like flashes that go off, like memories, like a spot that just, like I 775 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:33,900 see all those faces. 776 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,340 The elderly lady. 777 00:57:37,420 --> 00:57:39,660 The little kid that I was close to. 778 00:57:41,070 --> 00:57:45,570 This veteran or this man, I can remember the conversations. 779 00:57:47,130 --> 00:57:49,350 What are they telling you 10 years later? 780 00:57:50,930 --> 00:57:54,410 There's something washed away in the storm that they can never get back. 781 00:57:59,370 --> 00:58:02,210 The soul was definitely ripped apart from this neighborhood. 782 00:58:11,950 --> 00:58:16,510 I stayed out here many years, but I had to move away because it's just 783 00:58:16,510 --> 00:58:17,510 overwhelming. 784 00:58:27,030 --> 00:58:29,590 20 years later, the shit is still real. 785 00:58:33,230 --> 00:58:34,750 That's what makes it a disaster. 67876

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